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Title: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Kat Kid on September 16, 2014, 06:02:09 PM
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   UBER KANSAS   
    
Hey Kat Kid,
Uber is thinking about coming to Manhattan, KS, and we're looking for help from loyal riders like you to get started.

Know anyone in Manhattan who owns a car and would be interested in earning up to $25/hr? For a limited time, we're offering Uber credits for referring a driver in Manhattan!
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: wetwillie on September 16, 2014, 06:06:39 PM
:excited:
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Tobias on September 16, 2014, 06:12:56 PM
did you ask them if they knew anyone wanting to help a loyal rider like yourself get to the plaza?
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Kat Kid on September 16, 2014, 06:14:55 PM
did you ask them if they knew anyone wanting to help a loyal rider like yourself get to the plaza?

Friends don't let friends pay retail.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2014, 07:15:43 AM
great college kid job idea. lol at 2AM surge pricing from aggieville.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Kat Kid on September 17, 2014, 07:20:03 AM
great college kid job idea. lol at 2AM surge pricing from aggieville.

This was one of my "big ideas."  I have definitely pitched an Aggieville gypsy cab service.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2014, 07:22:50 AM
also lol at surge pricing when games get out. also I would pay whatever that surge pricing is. luckily I would be leaving aggieville at like 10:30 so I'd just pay reg. rates  :gocho:
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Kat Kid on September 17, 2014, 07:58:27 AM
also lol at surge pricing when games get out. also I would pay whatever that surge pricing is. luckily I would be leaving aggieville at like 10:30 so I'd just pay reg. rates  :gocho:

Q: Would steve dave really be taking an uberX to The Bluemont?

A: steve dave was already booked for below rack rate at HI to rack up some stays to elevate his status.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: TownieCat on September 17, 2014, 10:06:46 AM
I have HMSIQ (high Manhattan street intelligence quotient) and am seriously considering signing up.

 :driving:
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2014, 10:21:54 AM
I have HMSIQ (high Manhattan street intelligence quotient) and am seriously considering signing up.

 :driving:

you should. it would be awesome.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 17, 2014, 10:26:07 AM
my biggest (only) problem is when people need rides i am too drunk to drive.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: kim carnes on September 17, 2014, 10:30:57 AM
I tried to use uber to go to SD's airport at around 5:30am Saturday and they had surge pricing :dubious:   Ended up using Lyft.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: TownieCat on September 17, 2014, 10:32:14 AM
my biggest (only) problem is when people need rides i am too drunk to drive.

Ideally I would be the guy giving rides to Aggieville/downtown, not home from Aggieville/downtown.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2014, 10:34:05 AM
my biggest (only) problem is when people need rides i am too drunk to drive.

Ideally I would be the guy giving rides to Aggieville/downtown, not home from Aggieville/downtown.

well, that's not going to work
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: TownieCat on September 17, 2014, 10:35:41 AM
my biggest (only) problem is when people need rides i am too drunk to drive.

Ideally I would be the guy giving rides to Aggieville/downtown, not home from Aggieville/downtown.

well, that's not going to work

You're right. Students never drink before they go to the bars. What was I thinking...
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: _33 on September 17, 2014, 10:44:33 AM
I drove a school bus for usd383 for two years while at ksu.  I tried to get them to let me use my bus as public transit over the weekend.  They never let me.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2014, 11:12:02 AM
my biggest (only) problem is when people need rides i am too drunk to drive.

Ideally I would be the guy giving rides to Aggieville/downtown, not home from Aggieville/downtown.

well, that's not going to work

You're right. Students never drink before they go to the bars. What was I thinking...

well, go ahead and try it. what do I know about uber anyway.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 17, 2014, 11:30:04 AM
if they end up coming then i'm going to sign up as a driver and i'm sure they'll do some kind of hey we're new to mhk promo and i'll make everyone on this message board sign up for it and then we'll coordinate stuff and i'll end up "driving" all of you and then we take all the money earned and go to vegas or something.  :cheese:
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2014, 11:31:02 AM
 :driving:
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 17, 2014, 11:33:38 AM
look at MHK being all badass again today.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Asteriskhead on September 17, 2014, 12:14:25 PM
I would get an uber ride at 2 am for the two block trip back to my apartment just so I could talk to Ricky D. He has amazing conversation skills.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 17, 2014, 12:38:01 PM
just thought of rick daris being someones DD and holy crap i cant stop  :lol:

talk about the blind leading the blind. or should i say the drunk driving the drunks?
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 17, 2014, 01:08:32 PM
what's that you say? you need a ride from aggieville to somewhere? no problem! i've been here for the last five hours. just let me find my car real quick and i'll be right there!  :Woot:
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Asteriskhead on September 17, 2014, 01:11:34 PM
what's that you say? you need a ride from aggieville to somewhere? no problem! i've been here for the last five hours. just let me find my car real quick and i'll be right there!  :Woot:

we're going to have to stop for gas, i hope that is okay. darn, i can't find my card. i wonder where i left it.

Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Phil Titola on September 17, 2014, 01:13:13 PM
Uber x I always thought would be perfect college town idea... And they don't have the connected monopoly that is cab companies to muck up the legal stuff that bigger metro have to deal with.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2014, 01:33:12 PM
took my first uber x in napa in July. it was a good experience from what I recall but I was bombed out of my gourd on wine.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Phil Titola on September 17, 2014, 01:54:06 PM
Uber had almost  completely taken over my cab rides... Which is a lot of rides
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 17, 2014, 01:56:24 PM
"hey hows it goin?" *extends awkward fist bump*
"good. oh you brought me a beer? youre the best uber driver ive ever had."
"no! hands off daddy daris' bud light lime. i need this to drive."
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: mocat on April 23, 2015, 06:01:46 PM
bump
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: puniraptor on April 23, 2015, 06:04:45 PM
I put it in a brownback thread but everyone was afraid to look
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 23, 2015, 07:37:08 PM
Post it here
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: puniraptor on April 23, 2015, 07:37:42 PM
No you
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: 8manpick on April 24, 2015, 08:20:25 AM
This is going to be great when I fly in to MHK in September and don't have to wonder how I'm getting to Aggieville from the airport
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: 'taterblast on April 24, 2015, 08:47:58 AM
in all seriousness, this is incredibly awesome
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: wabash909 on April 24, 2015, 12:52:53 PM
In all seriousness, is this happening?

Because the current cab situation in Manhattan is basically the biggest joke imaginable. 

Edit:  Yes!

http://www.bizjournals.com/wichita/blog/techflash/2015/04/days-after-veto-uber-expands-to-four-more-kansas.html (http://www.bizjournals.com/wichita/blog/techflash/2015/04/days-after-veto-uber-expands-to-four-more-kansas.html)
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 24, 2015, 01:19:59 PM
i have a minivan. think i might sign up.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on April 24, 2015, 01:50:42 PM
i have a minivan. think i might sign up.

if you throw some squad lights on that bad boy youd make a killing. think sarge would go for it?
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: 8manpick on April 24, 2015, 02:25:22 PM
i have a minivan. think i might sign up.

I'll pay you 6 BL Limes from Mae's for a ride from MHK to Auntie Mae's on Sept 2.  UberCopRD
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 24, 2015, 02:26:05 PM
drive the mini down to maes for 1.50 bud light royals games and turn my uber on towards the end of the game and then if anybody needs an uber mini, bam i'm right there.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 24, 2015, 02:26:32 PM
i have a minivan. think i might sign up.

I'll pay you 6 BL Limes from Mae's for a ride from MHK to Auntie Mae's on Sept 2.  UberCopRD

that's a wednesday. when are you flying in?
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: 8manpick on April 24, 2015, 02:29:23 PM
i have a minivan. think i might sign up.

I'll pay you 6 BL Limes from Mae's for a ride from MHK to Auntie Mae's on Sept 2.  UberCopRD

that's a wednesday. when are you flying in?
You're right, I meant Sept 4. 11:58 am ORD-MHK
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 24, 2015, 02:31:35 PM
i have a minivan. think i might sign up.

I'll pay you 6 BL Limes from Mae's for a ride from MHK to Auntie Mae's on Sept 2.  UberCopRD

that's a wednesday. when are you flying in?
You're right, I meant Sept 4. 11:58 am ORD-MHK

i could actually probably get you. remind a week or two before.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 24, 2015, 02:33:12 PM
I can't think of anything I would enjoy more than ordering an Uber and rd pulls up.  100% chance I'd change my destination to some place he wanted to go
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: 8manpick on April 24, 2015, 02:33:19 PM
i have a minivan. think i might sign up.

I'll pay you 6 BL Limes from Mae's for a ride from MHK to Auntie Mae's on Sept 2.  UberCopRD

that's a wednesday. when are you flying in?
You're right, I meant Sept 4. 11:58 am ORD-MHK

i could actually probably get you. remind a week or two before.

:thumbs:  If not, I'll just use elite mhk uber service.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 24, 2015, 02:36:06 PM
it would be funny if you asked and i said i couldn't do it afterall, so you ubered and then i showed up in my uber mini. i'd be like, you know me 8man and then you'd wag your finger at me and then cue the laugh track.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 24, 2015, 02:50:52 PM
it would be funny if you asked and i said i couldn't do it afterall, so you ubered and then i showed up in my uber mini. i'd be like, you know me 8man and then you'd wag your finger at me and then cue the laugh track.

or like you had a hat on and he got in the back seat and he didn't know it was you, like in scary movies, and you ignored him and finally he yelled and you turned around and you recognized you
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 24, 2015, 03:09:47 PM
looks like they are staying in KC too.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 26, 2015, 01:30:00 PM
https://blog.uber.com/KSExpansion
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: mocat on May 05, 2015, 04:19:19 PM
the saga continues

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11219246_10102300538499371_1932416482403272941_n.jpg?oh=2fbcf4d8191f64ab04cde2c84ef4af4c&oe=560CB011&__gda__=1438667475_f3bf2bc46120c0ee9a5539d5941de935)
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: SkinnyBenny on May 05, 2015, 04:45:23 PM
well that's super lame.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: puniraptor on May 05, 2015, 04:46:46 PM
pretty unified effort to override. the kansas congress really rough ridin' hates uber, apparently. I doubt we have a powerful taxi lobby like major metropolitan states.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: ksupamplemousse on May 05, 2015, 04:48:45 PM
well that's super lame.

This seems like a very anti-conservative move. Aren't the dudes/dudettes in the Kansas senate all about free markets and competition and stuff?
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 05, 2015, 04:49:55 PM
well that's super lame.

This seems like a very anti-conservative move. Aren't the dudes/dudettes in the Kansas senate all about free markets and competition and stuff?

they've got no clue.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Spracne on May 05, 2015, 04:50:19 PM
pretty unified effort to override. the kansas congress really rough ridin' hates uber, apparently. I doubt we have a powerful taxi lobby like major metropolitan states.

Pretty puzzling.  Maybe insurance?
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 05, 2015, 04:51:39 PM
my employer emailed me to tell me to spam legislators to veto SB117. Something to do with financial institutions depending on their vehicles as collateral.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: ksupamplemousse on May 05, 2015, 04:52:13 PM
well that's super lame.

This seems like a very anti-conservative move. Aren't the dudes/dudettes in the Kansas senate all about free markets and competition and stuff?

they've got no clue.

Apparently. Seems like their objective may just be to become the most despised legislative body in the US.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: puniraptor on May 05, 2015, 04:52:44 PM
my employer emailed me to tell me to spam legislators to veto SB117. Something to do with financial institutions depending on their vehicles as collateral.

quite puzzling
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 05, 2015, 04:53:00 PM
Maybe they were just concerned about the possibility of sex offenders giving rides to young women. :dunno:
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 05, 2015, 04:54:28 PM
my employer emailed me to tell me to spam legislators to veto SB117. Something to do with financial institutions depending on their vehicles as collateral.

quite puzzling

and requiring comprehensive and collision insurance.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: puniraptor on May 05, 2015, 04:55:55 PM
Maybe they were just concerned about the possibility of sex offenders giving rides to young women. :dunno:

well yeah, but is there any system in place to stop sex offenders from being taxi drivers?  heck, i just saw a story on the news where a sex offender fugitive from texas got a job as a kansas bus driver.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 05, 2015, 05:02:22 PM
http://www.bizjournals.com/wichita/morning_call/2015/04/uber-s-problem-with-this-bill-in-kansas-it-s-more.html

http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/streetside-uber-is-user-friendly-that-doesnt-mean-uber-respects-you/Content?oid=5095487

Uber seems a little bit ridiculous here. Maybe the articles are biased. :dunno:
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Phil Titola on May 05, 2015, 05:43:17 PM
Maybe they were just concerned about the possibility of sex offenders giving rides to young women. :dunno:

These dorks that lean on the current laws in place to keep creeps from driving people around haven't ever taken a cab in their lives.  The feedback loop and detailed driver/rider data in systems like Uber/Lyft/Sidecar/etc. is way safer than a background check.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: wetwillie on May 05, 2015, 07:14:50 PM
Uber drivers are much more likely to rob your house after dropping you at the airport than assault you.
Title: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Kat Kid on May 05, 2015, 07:51:47 PM
Banks and insurance companies lobbied hard against Uber without them getting their guarantees.  Every Podunk Kansas town has a respectable banker and a few insurance men and a chamber of commerce.  Only KC, Topeka, Wichita, MHK and Lawrence would've had Uber.

The ability to lobby/threaten the state legislature in to doing all sorts of things is getting more evident as social media provides live updates of the shenanigans of committee meetings and testimony presented.  It sounds cliche to say that lobbyists exercise an enormous amount of influence on votes, but it is incredible to see it in action when it so clearly lays to waste the idea that ideology and partisan politics is always the driving force behind voting.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: star seed 7 on May 05, 2015, 08:01:14 PM
what do banks have against uber?
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: hjfklmor on May 05, 2015, 08:02:47 PM
That's their collateral driving people around. I doubt many uber drivers own their car free and clear.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: star seed 7 on May 05, 2015, 08:03:48 PM
seems reasonable to make sure there are no insurance gaps then
Title: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: hjfklmor on May 05, 2015, 08:19:52 PM
The Kansas Bankers Association is also a pretty powerful lobby which never hurts. This isn't the first time they've received special treatment from the state legislature because they bitched and moaned.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Phil Titola on May 05, 2015, 08:25:15 PM
seems reasonable to make sure there are no insurance gaps then

Uber propaganda makes this sound like they've got it totally handled. 
blog.uber.com/ridesharinginsurance
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Spracne on May 05, 2015, 08:46:04 PM
i suppose there's some truth to the saying that you get the government(s) you deserve.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 05, 2015, 09:13:48 PM
Uber lame!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: michigancat on May 05, 2015, 10:16:07 PM
Question: is the Kansas law different from every other state where uber operates?
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: MakeItRain on May 06, 2015, 12:04:11 AM
Question: is the Kansas law different from every other state where uber operates?

The question I have is why uber and only uber has these problems nationwide. I have never heard of Lyft having issues with local governments but uber has been in crap in liberal, conservative, and moderate jurisdictions. I think my answer to that question is that they are cheap rough ridin' crybabies. It wouldn't cost them very much money to comply with this law, if they want to be in Kansas nothing is stopping them.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 06, 2015, 12:17:48 AM
Banks and insurance companies lobbied hard against Uber without them getting their guarantees.  Every Podunk Kansas town has a respectable banker and a few insurance men and a chamber of commerce.  Only KC, Topeka, Wichita, MHK and Lawrence would've had Uber.

The ability to lobby/threaten the state legislature in to doing all sorts of things is getting more evident as social media provides live updates of the shenanigans of committee meetings and testimony presented.  It sounds cliche to say that lobbyists exercise an enormous amount of influence on votes, but it is incredible to see it in action when it so clearly lays to waste the idea that ideology and partisan politics is always the driving force behind voting.

Well, the banks are right in wanting to make sure the cars they are financing are properly insured.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: MakeItRain on May 06, 2015, 12:37:36 AM
Uber is pretty gross guys. I mean there's a million stories about the gross crap they've done; senior executives threatening media members, charging surge pricing when people attempted to escape public shootings in Sydney, etc. I think I'm going to delete their app and eat the money I have on my account

http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/26/6067663/this-is-ubers-playbook-for-sabotaging-lyft
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: CNS on May 06, 2015, 07:08:35 AM
Banks and insurance companies lobbied hard against Uber without them getting their guarantees.  Every Podunk Kansas town has a respectable banker and a few insurance men and a chamber of commerce.  Only KC, Topeka, Wichita, MHK and Lawrence would've had Uber.

The ability to lobby/threaten the state legislature in to doing all sorts of things is getting more evident as social media provides live updates of the shenanigans of committee meetings and testimony presented.  It sounds cliche to say that lobbyists exercise an enormous amount of influence on votes, but it is incredible to see it in action when it so clearly lays to waste the idea that ideology and partisan politics is always the driving force behind voting.

Well, the banks are right in wanting to make sure the cars they are financing are properly insured.
Last I knew,  if you were paying on your car still, you had to have full coverage.   Is this not true now?
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: michigancat on May 06, 2015, 07:19:18 AM
There are certain circles in sf that will judge you pretty hard if you take uber. I still prefer it to a taxi. Mainly because cabs are smelly and I don't usually carry much cash because credit card thread.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: 8manpick on May 06, 2015, 07:22:13 AM
The thing about Lyft is like 4 people have ever used it
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Jabeez on May 06, 2015, 07:29:20 AM
Uber agreed with the bill until the night before the vote the insurance committee put in the additional insurance amendment on the bill for cars that have liens on them,  which is asinine because the bank requires insurance anyway.  Also, uber addressed the "insurance gap"  rather publicly.  It seems pretty bitter of the Kansas legislative body to cry, "they're meanies.  They are just bluffing, and we're going to wait it out because they can't afford to lose our huge Kansas markets.   Lobbyists also told us they wanted some stuff in this bill, so we have to put it in there obviously."

Honestly, there is no logical argument for keeping a company out of Kansas when everyone wants it, except for MIR and the state senate.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: SkinnyBenny on May 06, 2015, 07:33:09 AM
Uber is pretty gross guys. I mean there's a million stories about the gross crap they've done; senior executives threatening media members, charging surge pricing when people attempted to escape public shootings in Sydney, etc. I think I'm going to delete their app and eat the money I have on my account

http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/26/6067663/this-is-ubers-playbook-for-sabotaging-lyft

Still 100x more reputable than New Orleans cabs, tho.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: steve dave on May 06, 2015, 07:40:27 AM
yeah, gross is relative to whatever other options available
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: MakeItRain on May 06, 2015, 08:03:56 AM
yeah, gross is relative to whatever other options available

True. The cars and drivers are great and I've had nothing but great experiences using uber. Their executives seem to be horrible people.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 06, 2015, 08:23:05 AM
Banks and insurance companies lobbied hard against Uber without them getting their guarantees.  Every Podunk Kansas town has a respectable banker and a few insurance men and a chamber of commerce.  Only KC, Topeka, Wichita, MHK and Lawrence would've had Uber.

The ability to lobby/threaten the state legislature in to doing all sorts of things is getting more evident as social media provides live updates of the shenanigans of committee meetings and testimony presented.  It sounds cliche to say that lobbyists exercise an enormous amount of influence on votes, but it is incredible to see it in action when it so clearly lays to waste the idea that ideology and partisan politics is always the driving force behind voting.

Well, the banks are right in wanting to make sure the cars they are financing are properly insured.
Last I knew,  if you were paying on your car still, you had to have full coverage.   Is this not true now?

If you have full coverage and wreck your car driving it commercially, your insurance company doesn't have to pay a dime.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Trim on May 06, 2015, 09:45:51 AM
Banks and insurance companies lobbied hard against Uber without them getting their guarantees.  Every Podunk Kansas town has a respectable banker and a few insurance men and a chamber of commerce.  Only KC, Topeka, Wichita, MHK and Lawrence would've had Uber.

The ability to lobby/threaten the state legislature in to doing all sorts of things is getting more evident as social media provides live updates of the shenanigans of committee meetings and testimony presented.  It sounds cliche to say that lobbyists exercise an enormous amount of influence on votes, but it is incredible to see it in action when it so clearly lays to waste the idea that ideology and partisan politics is always the driving force behind voting.

Well, the banks are right in wanting to make sure the cars they are financing are properly insured.
Last I knew,  if you were paying on your car still, you had to have full coverage.   Is this not true now?

If you have full coverage and wreck your car driving it commercially, your insurance company doesn't have to pay a dime.

Where's the "commercial" line? What about food delivery drivers? Does the restaurant's insurance cover them?
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 06, 2015, 09:52:47 AM
Banks and insurance companies lobbied hard against Uber without them getting their guarantees.  Every Podunk Kansas town has a respectable banker and a few insurance men and a chamber of commerce.  Only KC, Topeka, Wichita, MHK and Lawrence would've had Uber.

The ability to lobby/threaten the state legislature in to doing all sorts of things is getting more evident as social media provides live updates of the shenanigans of committee meetings and testimony presented.  It sounds cliche to say that lobbyists exercise an enormous amount of influence on votes, but it is incredible to see it in action when it so clearly lays to waste the idea that ideology and partisan politics is always the driving force behind voting.

Well, the banks are right in wanting to make sure the cars they are financing are properly insured.
Last I knew,  if you were paying on your car still, you had to have full coverage.   Is this not true now?

If you have full coverage and wreck your car driving it commercially, your insurance company doesn't have to pay a dime.

Where's the "commercial" line? What about food delivery drivers? Does the restaurant's insurance cover them?

Either the restaurant or the driver (probably the driver) needs to have commercial or business coverage. Basically, if you collect any sort of fee for driving your vehicle, you need more than private coverage.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Jabeez on May 06, 2015, 12:53:38 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2014/03/14/uber-closes-insurance-gap-for-ride-sharing-drivers/

So this is still an issue or am I missing something?
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 06, 2015, 01:19:38 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2014/03/14/uber-closes-insurance-gap-for-ride-sharing-drivers/

So this is still an issue or am I missing something?

I have no idea. If Uber is insuring all of their drivers, then I'm not sure what makes the Kansas law a big deal to them. I really liked this quote, though.

Quote
“The context that needs to be kept in mind when you talk to certain city council members is how long have they been taking campaign contributions from the taxi industry,” he said. “They’re essentially in the pocket of the taxi industry, just straight up.”
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: 06wildcat on May 06, 2015, 01:24:31 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2014/03/14/uber-closes-insurance-gap-for-ride-sharing-drivers/

So this is still an issue or am I missing something?

Uber is only providing liability coverage. It won't cover repairs to a vehicle, and a personal comprehensive policy will not cover the repairs if the accident happened during the course of commercial activity.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 06, 2015, 02:09:43 PM
had this discussion at lunch with a banker friend.   He said the big push was from the KBA on the collateral issue.   Like I told him, my issue is that nobody else is getting hammered for that.

Your pizza delivery driver isn't.    Your white van carpet installer isn't.   Your handyman with a ladder in the back of his S-10 isn't.   Because they don't have a lobby chasing them.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 06, 2015, 02:26:21 PM
had this discussion at lunch with a banker friend.   He said the big push was from the KBA on the collateral issue.   Like I told him, my issue is that nobody else is getting hammered for that.

Your pizza delivery driver isn't.    Your white van carpet installer isn't.   Your handyman with a ladder in the back of his S-10 isn't.   Because they don't have a lobby chasing them.

Yeah, the bill should have been more comprehensive.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 06, 2015, 02:42:20 PM
had this discussion at lunch with a banker friend.   He said the big push was from the KBA on the collateral issue.   Like I told him, my issue is that nobody else is getting hammered for that.

Your pizza delivery driver isn't.    Your white van carpet installer isn't.   Your handyman with a ladder in the back of his S-10 isn't.   Because they don't have a lobby chasing them.
Most of them don't know.. And they'd be SOL if they were to be in an accident.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Jabeez on May 06, 2015, 02:44:09 PM
Big Taxi is ruining America!
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 06, 2015, 02:56:26 PM
Big Taxi money in politics has ruined America!
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: hjfklmor on May 06, 2015, 04:54:35 PM

had this discussion at lunch with a banker friend.   He said the big push was from the KBA on the collateral issue.   Like I told him, my issue is that nobody else is getting hammered for that.

Your pizza delivery driver isn't.    Your white van carpet installer isn't.   Your handyman with a ladder in the back of his S-10 isn't.   Because they don't have a lobby chasing them.
Most of them don't know.. And they'd be SOL if they were to be in an accident.

I would hope that these drivers are employed by businesses that have commercial insurance but the reality is that you are probably right, especially for the smaller companies and independent contractors.

The bill really should have included more instead of being targeted against Uber.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Phil Titola on May 06, 2015, 05:13:29 PM
Uber is pretty gross guys. I mean there's a million stories about the gross crap they've done; senior executives threatening media members, charging surge pricing when people attempted to escape public shootings in Sydney, etc. I think I'm going to delete their app and eat the money I have on my account

http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/26/6067663/this-is-ubers-playbook-for-sabotaging-lyft

About the same as any local cab mafia monopoly
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Phil Titola on May 06, 2015, 05:18:39 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2014/03/14/uber-closes-insurance-gap-for-ride-sharing-drivers/

So this is still an issue or am I missing something?

Uber is only providing liability coverage. It won't cover repairs to a vehicle, and a personal comprehensive policy will not cover the repairs if the accident happened during the course of commercial activity.

The insurance they talk about in that article is when the driver isn't "commercial" as in taking a passenger, it's only when the app is on and driver is available....in that case personal insurance coverage kicks in first in most cases (their words) and if not, the additional uber insurance kicks in (in theory)
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: hjfklmor on May 06, 2015, 05:27:44 PM
I'm pretty sure that if these drivers don't tell their insurance companies that they are driving for uber (and why would they, their premiums would skyrocket) any claims would be denied. Fairly certain their personal insurance wouldn't do crap.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Phil Titola on May 06, 2015, 05:43:15 PM
ITT: We learned who sells insurance.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Trim on May 06, 2015, 05:54:48 PM
Were specific examples of insurance gaps and loopholes discussed during the legislative process?  I'd love to see how a situation played out in real life that prompted a belief that this legislation was imperative to protect auto lenders who've loaned money to uber drivers that will default on their loans once a car accident happens and thus lose a (not the only) remedy in recovering the loan balance?

Title: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: hjfklmor on May 06, 2015, 07:15:47 PM
Bankers bitch a lot about how they could lose money while making tons of money year after year. That's how the situation played out.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: wetwillie on May 06, 2015, 07:22:08 PM
Are we the only state uber doesnt operate in?
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: 06wildcat on May 06, 2015, 08:33:54 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2014/03/14/uber-closes-insurance-gap-for-ride-sharing-drivers/

So this is still an issue or am I missing something?

Uber is only providing liability coverage. It won't cover repairs to a vehicle, and a personal comprehensive policy will not cover the repairs if the accident happened during the course of commercial activity.

The insurance they talk about in that article is when the driver isn't "commercial" as in taking a passenger, it's only when the app is on and driver is available....in that case personal insurance coverage kicks in first in most cases (their words) and if not, the additional uber insurance kicks in (in theory)

Uber is only picking up liability insurance if a driver causes damage another person/property. The banks don't give a crap about anything other than their collateral.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: 06wildcat on May 06, 2015, 08:42:53 PM
Were specific examples of insurance gaps and loopholes discussed during the legislative process?  I'd love to see how a situation played out in real life that prompted a belief that this legislation was imperative to protect auto lenders who've loaned money to uber drivers that will default on their loans once a car accident happens and thus lose a (not the only) remedy in recovering the loan balance?

No real world example, but I think it's a fairly logical argument with some pretty easy workarounds. Banks, insurance cos and Uber are gigantic dicks so there's no real winner. Uber's MHK service/rates were pretty lol while in operation here tho.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: MakeItRain on May 06, 2015, 09:53:35 PM
Are we the only state uber doesnt operate in?

Nope. Also if any of you are under the impression that Uber is some plucky startup incapable of fending for themselves from the big bad banking industry I'd recommend you read their wiki page and you can learn how they were founded and who is funding them.

They stole tips from drivers? :nono:
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Trim on May 06, 2015, 09:57:32 PM
Were specific examples of insurance gaps and loopholes discussed during the legislative process?  I'd love to see how a situation played out in real life that prompted a belief that this legislation was imperative to protect auto lenders who've loaned money to uber drivers that will default on their loans once a car accident happens and thus lose a (not the only) remedy in recovering the loan balance?

No real world example, but I think it's a fairly logical argument with some pretty easy workarounds.

I agree, and speculate that the lack of this even being a problem in real life is allowing all involved to have mumped up fixing it in a way that works for everyone.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: 06wildcat on May 06, 2015, 10:12:05 PM
Were specific examples of insurance gaps and loopholes discussed during the legislative process?  I'd love to see how a situation played out in real life that prompted a belief that this legislation was imperative to protect auto lenders who've loaned money to uber drivers that will default on their loans once a car accident happens and thus lose a (not the only) remedy in recovering the loan balance?

No real world example, but I think it's a fairly logical argument with some pretty easy workarounds.

I agree, and speculate that the lack of this even being a problem in real life is allowing all involved to have mumped up fixing it in a way that works for everyone.

Legislators gonna legislate.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Phil Titola on May 06, 2015, 10:24:10 PM
Everybody else can figure it out....come on KS.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: michigancat on May 06, 2015, 10:40:29 PM
One time I left my work laptop in an UberX and the guy tried to get me to give him money to get it back. I told him to eff off. (Nicely)
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Spracne on May 06, 2015, 10:44:07 PM
Neither he nor you did that.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: puniraptor on May 06, 2015, 10:46:07 PM
Neither he nor you did that.
Power tripping off 3 draft picks
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: michigancat on May 06, 2015, 10:56:05 PM
Neither he nor you did that.

no, it did, and it happens quite a bit. http://laist.com/2013/12/17/uber_driver_demands_500_for_phone_l.php

 I called him two minutes after he dropped me off and he was like, "ummm, I have it, what do you want me to do?" and I'm like "BRING ME BACK MY LAPTOP" and he's like "I'll have to charge you" thinking it would be like a standard fare for him to bring it back. (I had no idea what their policy was and just assumed it was company policy, I was a little stressed at this point.) I was like, "Fine. whatever. just bring it back." When he got back I was like, "um, so my app just takes care of this or whatever?" and he's like, "um, no, that's not how it works" and I told him I didn't have any cash and he's like "um, um, bye". Like I said, a nice way of telling him to eff off. I would never say that to a real human.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 06, 2015, 11:04:23 PM
Neither he nor you did that.

no, it did, and it happens quite a bit. http://laist.com/2013/12/17/uber_driver_demands_500_for_phone_l.php

 I called him two minutes after he dropped me off and he was like, "ummm, I have it, what do you want me to do?" and I'm like "BRING ME BACK MY LAPTOP" and he's like "I'll have to charge you" thinking it would be like a standard fare for him to bring it back. (I had no idea what their policy was and just assumed it was company policy, I was a little stressed at this point.) I was like, "Fine. whatever. just bring it back." When he got back I was like, "um, so my app just takes care of this or whatever?" and he's like, "um, no, that's not how it works" and I told him I didn't have any cash and he's like "um, um, bye". Like I said, a nice way of telling him to eff off. I would never say that to a real human.

Kansas should go ahead and make that crap illegal, too, in case Uber ever decides to come back.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Phil Titola on May 06, 2015, 11:08:50 PM
Neither he nor you did that.

no, it did, and it happens quite a bit. http://laist.com/2013/12/17/uber_driver_demands_500_for_phone_l.php

 I called him two minutes after he dropped me off and he was like, "ummm, I have it, what do you want me to do?" and I'm like "BRING ME BACK MY LAPTOP" and he's like "I'll have to charge you" thinking it would be like a standard fare for him to bring it back. (I had no idea what their policy was and just assumed it was company policy, I was a little stressed at this point.) I was like, "Fine. whatever. just bring it back." When he got back I was like, "um, so my app just takes care of this or whatever?" and he's like, "um, no, that's not how it works" and I told him I didn't have any cash and he's like "um, um, bye". Like I said, a nice way of telling him to eff off. I would never say that to a real human.

You can use the app now and report lost items.  Not sure if that would help but between that and 0 rating, it might get Uber moving on it.

I've had so many horrible cab experiences, these uber horror stories don't do much.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Trim on May 06, 2015, 11:39:01 PM
My neighbor uber driver and I were watching the seahawks/chiefs game at a bar last fall and one of his passengers called about having left his wallet in the car or something.  Neighbor told him he couldn't drive his wallet to him because we were pak'n, but had the guy come to our building later to pick it up free of charge.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: michigancat on May 06, 2015, 11:54:16 PM
Neither he nor you did that.

no, it did, and it happens quite a bit. http://laist.com/2013/12/17/uber_driver_demands_500_for_phone_l.php

 I called him two minutes after he dropped me off and he was like, "ummm, I have it, what do you want me to do?" and I'm like "BRING ME BACK MY LAPTOP" and he's like "I'll have to charge you" thinking it would be like a standard fare for him to bring it back. (I had no idea what their policy was and just assumed it was company policy, I was a little stressed at this point.) I was like, "Fine. whatever. just bring it back." When he got back I was like, "um, so my app just takes care of this or whatever?" and he's like, "um, no, that's not how it works" and I told him I didn't have any cash and he's like "um, um, bye". Like I said, a nice way of telling him to eff off. I would never say that to a real human.

You can use the app now and report lost items.  Not sure if that would help but between that and 0 rating, it might get Uber moving on it.

I've had so many horrible cab experiences, these uber horror stories don't do much.

I did report in on the app, but their policy once you do that is just "work it out with the driver". I agree, it's not so bad. I mean paying for a taxi with a credit card my god.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Trim on May 07, 2015, 01:03:11 AM
Not sure if that would help but between that and 0 rating, it might get Uber moving on it.

Their rating system is so mumped up.

https://twitter.com/hosienation/status/595233533334925312
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: MakeItRain on May 07, 2015, 01:10:42 AM
Everybody else can figure it out....come on KS.

Kansas isn't the only state without uber and there are several states that have uber that have or had issues with uber. The state didn't kick uber out, they didn't think enough about Kansas to comply like they're made the decision to do other places. If a state they valued more imposed these same restrictions on them, they'd do it.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: EMAWmeister on May 07, 2015, 06:12:50 AM
The thing about Lyft is like 4 people have ever used it

Lyft gave me free tickets to the World Series. I would love having lyft back again
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: DQ12 on May 07, 2015, 06:54:01 AM
Took an uber to the car dealership yesterday.  Driver was a VERY elderly man who told me that next week he's going on a pacific northwest vision quest with his 3 great granddaughters.

Also, I love the Uber product, but the Kansas requirements don't really seem all that unreasonable to me. 
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: star seed 7 on May 07, 2015, 07:12:29 AM
When you uber, do you ride in the front or back?
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: DQ12 on May 07, 2015, 07:22:26 AM
i only ride in the front if i'm riding with at least two other people. 
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: mhkpasa on May 07, 2015, 08:15:46 AM
I'll ride shotgun on a solo ride quite often. I kinda give the driver a front or back motion before I hop in, in case he is in totally against this drunk dude hoping up front.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: XocolateThundarr on May 07, 2015, 09:51:48 AM
Legislators and insurance salesmen/companies are the worst....absolute.rough ridin'.worst.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: SkinnyBenny on May 07, 2015, 10:51:31 AM
Uber horror stories are also not doing much for me either. I don't love the company Uber per se, as they are obviously pretty shady. But I love that they allow more choice in my market. New Orleans taxis have had an absolute stranglehold on the city for so GD long and they were never held accountable for anything and basically broke whatever rules/laws they pleased because there was no competition. But now there is, and it's great, even if the competing company itself isn't that great. Ya dig?

In Manhattan I'd more just all about Uber because A) every other state seems to be able to make it work, and B) there just aren't very many cabs (because D. Scott is always in them) but there are tons of drunk people who want rides all the time.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Spracne on May 07, 2015, 11:02:13 AM
Neither he nor you did that.

no, it did, and it happens quite a bit. http://laist.com/2013/12/17/uber_driver_demands_500_for_phone_l.php

 I called him two minutes after he dropped me off and he was like, "ummm, I have it, what do you want me to do?" and I'm like "BRING ME BACK MY LAPTOP" and he's like "I'll have to charge you" thinking it would be like a standard fare for him to bring it back. (I had no idea what their policy was and just assumed it was company policy, I was a little stressed at this point.) I was like, "Fine. whatever. just bring it back." When he got back I was like, "um, so my app just takes care of this or whatever?" and he's like, "um, no, that's not how it works" and I told him I didn't have any cash and he's like "um, um, bye". Like I said, a nice way of telling him to eff off. I would never say that to a real human.

I mean, I would have thrown him a few bones.  Leaving the laptop in the car was your error.  The guy incurs an opportunity cost by delivering the laptop to your location. It would be the decent thing to do.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: ksuwizard on May 07, 2015, 11:15:53 AM
Neither he nor you did that.

no, it did, and it happens quite a bit. http://laist.com/2013/12/17/uber_driver_demands_500_for_phone_l.php

 I called him two minutes after he dropped me off and he was like, "ummm, I have it, what do you want me to do?" and I'm like "BRING ME BACK MY LAPTOP" and he's like "I'll have to charge you" thinking it would be like a standard fare for him to bring it back. (I had no idea what their policy was and just assumed it was company policy, I was a little stressed at this point.) I was like, "Fine. whatever. just bring it back." When he got back I was like, "um, so my app just takes care of this or whatever?" and he's like, "um, no, that's not how it works" and I told him I didn't have any cash and he's like "um, um, bye". Like I said, a nice way of telling him to eff off. I would never say that to a real human.

I mean, I would have thrown him a few bones.  Leaving the laptop in the car was your error.  The guy incurs an opportunity cost by delivering the laptop to your location. It would be the decent thing to do.

In the early stages of Uber in KC, I had a driver come back about 1/4 mile to return my hat I left in the car. Not a laptop, but nice of her to do so.  And one night I was in an Uber and found a phone in the backseat that was left. The driver said it belonged the guy he just dropped off, so we called a number on it and returned it to him on our Uber dime (was about 1/2 mile out of the way). On the flipside, a DC cab driver charged me $40 to turn around and bring my iPhone back to the bar he dropped me off at one night for "loss of business he received".  I think it all boils down to hopefully finding the general nicety of people and the drivers when you leave something in the vehicle. As Spracne mentioned, it's not the driver's fault something got left in the car.  I hope Uber comes back to KS side, way better than cabs IME.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: michigancat on May 07, 2015, 11:38:49 AM
Neither he nor you did that.

no, it did, and it happens quite a bit. http://laist.com/2013/12/17/uber_driver_demands_500_for_phone_l.php

 I called him two minutes after he dropped me off and he was like, "ummm, I have it, what do you want me to do?" and I'm like "BRING ME BACK MY LAPTOP" and he's like "I'll have to charge you" thinking it would be like a standard fare for him to bring it back. (I had no idea what their policy was and just assumed it was company policy, I was a little stressed at this point.) I was like, "Fine. whatever. just bring it back." When he got back I was like, "um, so my app just takes care of this or whatever?" and he's like, "um, no, that's not how it works" and I told him I didn't have any cash and he's like "um, um, bye". Like I said, a nice way of telling him to eff off. I would never say that to a real human.

I mean, I would have thrown him a few bones.  Leaving the laptop in the car was your error.  The guy incurs an opportunity cost by delivering the laptop to your location. It would be the decent thing to do.

I honestly didn't have any cash (that's one of the selling points for Uber, right?), called him two minutes after he dropped me off, and didn't know the policy for lost items was just "figure it out with the driver". This guy wasn't coming up with a solution at all, just asking me what I wanted to do. He also lied about how far away he was when I called him and I legitimately thought he could charge me through the app (like an extra ride) when he mentioned that as a possible solution. Straight up asking for cash was poor form.

And like I said, I have used Uber since and will use again, especially if a cab is the alternative. My only real problem w/ Uber is I can't schedule them for super early morning trips to the airport and I'm paranoid about not having any drivers close when I need to be to the airport early.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Spracne on May 07, 2015, 11:41:50 AM
Ah, I thought you meant you told him to eff off by claiming not to have any cash (when you actually did  :Keke:).
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Phil Titola on May 07, 2015, 12:11:25 PM
Uber horror stories are also not doing much for me either. I don't love the company Uber per se, as they are obviously pretty shady. But I love that they allow more choice in my market. New Orleans taxis have had an absolute stranglehold on the city for so GD long and they were never held accountable for anything and basically broke whatever rules/laws they pleased because there was no competition. But now there is, and it's great, even if the competing company itself isn't that great. Ya dig?

In Manhattan I'd more just all about Uber because A) every other state seems to be able to make it work, and B) there just aren't very many cabs (because D. Scott is always in them) but there are tons of drunk people who want rides all the time.

Exactly. Cab companies are so seedy and in the pocket of the city....Uber basically has to be dirty to break into these monopolies.

Oh and always tip your uber driver if you have cash.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: 8manpick on May 07, 2015, 12:58:01 PM
Uber horror stories are also not doing much for me either. I don't love the company Uber per se, as they are obviously pretty shady. But I love that they allow more choice in my market. New Orleans taxis have had an absolute stranglehold on the city for so GD long and they were never held accountable for anything and basically broke whatever rules/laws they pleased because there was no competition. But now there is, and it's great, even if the competing company itself isn't that great. Ya dig?

In Manhattan I'd more just all about Uber because A) every other state seems to be able to make it work, and B) there just aren't very many cabs (because D. Scott is always in them) but there are tons of drunk people who want rides all the time.

Exactly. Cab companies are so seedy and in the pocket of the city....Uber basically has to be dirty to break into these monopolies.

Oh and always tip your uber driver if you have cash.

Wait, what?
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: RockState2000 on May 07, 2015, 02:46:49 PM
Agree, what? I've never done this.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: MakeItRain on May 07, 2015, 04:31:45 PM
Uber horror stories are also not doing much for me either. I don't love the company Uber per se, as they are obviously pretty shady. But I love that they allow more choice in my market. New Orleans taxis have had an absolute stranglehold on the city for so GD long and they were never held accountable for anything and basically broke whatever rules/laws they pleased because there was no competition. But now there is, and it's great, even if the competing company itself isn't that great. Ya dig?

In Manhattan I'd more just all about Uber because A) every other state seems to be able to make it work, and B) there just aren't very many cabs (because D. Scott is always in them) but there are tons of drunk people who want rides all the time.

Exactly. Cab companies are so seedy and in the pocket of the city....Uber basically has to be dirty to break into these monopolies.

Oh and always tip your uber driver if you have cash.

Wait, what?

Yeah, the tip is incorporated into the fare. I learned this the hard way via PI'ing from Trim.

Why do people keep saying "well uber is better than taxis?" That's like someone complaining about pirates and infectious diseases on cruise ships but the response is then "well its better than a floating raft made of wood and plastic barrels."
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Jabeez on May 07, 2015, 04:49:40 PM
Uber horror stories are also not doing much for me either. I don't love the company Uber per se, as they are obviously pretty shady. But I love that they allow more choice in my market. New Orleans taxis have had an absolute stranglehold on the city for so GD long and they were never held accountable for anything and basically broke whatever rules/laws they pleased because there was no competition. But now there is, and it's great, even if the competing company itself isn't that great. Ya dig?

In Manhattan I'd more just all about Uber because A) every other state seems to be able to make it work, and B) there just aren't very many cabs (because D. Scott is always in them) but there are tons of drunk people who want rides all the time.

Exactly. Cab companies are so seedy and in the pocket of the city....Uber basically has to be dirty to break into these monopolies.

Oh and always tip your uber driver if you have cash.

Wait, what?

Yeah, the tip is incorporated into the fare. I learned this the hard way via PI'ing from Trim.

Why do people keep saying "well uber is better than taxis?" That's like someone complaining about pirates and infectious diseases on cruise ships but the response is then "well its better than a floating raft made of wood and plastic barrels."
This can't be serious no one is saying uber is bad but you.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Trim on May 07, 2015, 05:11:15 PM
Uber horror stories are also not doing much for me either. I don't love the company Uber per se, as they are obviously pretty shady. But I love that they allow more choice in my market. New Orleans taxis have had an absolute stranglehold on the city for so GD long and they were never held accountable for anything and basically broke whatever rules/laws they pleased because there was no competition. But now there is, and it's great, even if the competing company itself isn't that great. Ya dig?

In Manhattan I'd more just all about Uber because A) every other state seems to be able to make it work, and B) there just aren't very many cabs (because D. Scott is always in them) but there are tons of drunk people who want rides all the time.

Exactly. Cab companies are so seedy and in the pocket of the city....Uber basically has to be dirty to break into these monopolies.

Oh and always tip your uber driver if you have cash.

Wait, what?

Yeah, the tip is incorporated into the fare. I learned this the hard way via PI'ing from Trim.

I've since learned they expect tips, at least the uberX ones do.  I think we were talking about uber black.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: ChiComCat on May 07, 2015, 06:03:49 PM
Uber horror stories are also not doing much for me either. I don't love the company Uber per se, as they are obviously pretty shady. But I love that they allow more choice in my market. New Orleans taxis have had an absolute stranglehold on the city for so GD long and they were never held accountable for anything and basically broke whatever rules/laws they pleased because there was no competition. But now there is, and it's great, even if the competing company itself isn't that great. Ya dig?

I was in New Orleans a month ago and there was no Uber.  Also, I was picked up by a guy who was clearly not the guy on the photo in back, drove 15 over, and had every warning light on in the car.  Was also driven by a guy who was cut off in traffic and pulled a gun out of the glove box to waive at the other driver.  So I guess I agree with you on the no accountability thing but really don't know how that has changed.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Phil Titola on May 07, 2015, 06:42:26 PM
Yes to clarify...tip uberX. Black is included. Uber misled riders for awhile on their site but later changed the wording.

I don't tip everytime because I suck at carrying cash but especially for a short trips, I try to throw the driver a couple bucks.

Really wish uber would add a tip option to the app...they have it for cities that book cabs through uber.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: MakeItRain on May 07, 2015, 07:26:40 PM
Uber horror stories are also not doing much for me either. I don't love the company Uber per se, as they are obviously pretty shady. But I love that they allow more choice in my market. New Orleans taxis have had an absolute stranglehold on the city for so GD long and they were never held accountable for anything and basically broke whatever rules/laws they pleased because there was no competition. But now there is, and it's great, even if the competing company itself isn't that great. Ya dig?

In Manhattan I'd more just all about Uber because A) every other state seems to be able to make it work, and B) there just aren't very many cabs (because D. Scott is always in them) but there are tons of drunk people who want rides all the time.

Exactly. Cab companies are so seedy and in the pocket of the city....Uber basically has to be dirty to break into these monopolies.

Oh and always tip your uber driver if you have cash.

Wait, what?

Yeah, the tip is incorporated into the fare. I learned this the hard way via PI'ing from Trim.

Why do people keep saying "well uber is better than taxis?" That's like someone complaining about pirates and infectious diseases on cruise ships but the response is then "well its better than a floating raft made of wood and plastic barrels."
This can't be serious no one is saying uber is bad but you.

What? One of us is confused. Even if I said uber is bad, my response was a little more nuanced than that, what does that have to do with me thinking comparing uber to cabs to justify their shitty corporate policies is a false a equivalency?
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: kitten_mittons on May 07, 2015, 08:05:54 PM
How am I supposed to get home from p&l tonight?  If they pick you up in kcmo, can they drive to ks?  Do I lie about where i live until it's too late?  Level 3 right now,  btw.

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Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: star seed 7 on May 07, 2015, 08:11:44 PM
yes, they will drop you off in ks.  they just can't do pick ups
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Phil Titola on May 07, 2015, 08:24:30 PM
yes, they will drop you off in ks.  they just can't do pick ups

The RIDE Act, generally codified at 49 USC 14501(d) allows this.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: michigancat on May 07, 2015, 10:18:06 PM
Re: tipping:

http://www.quora.com/Should-I-tip-my-Uber-driver
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: MakeItRain on May 07, 2015, 11:37:23 PM
Re: tipping:

http://www.quora.com/Should-I-tip-my-Uber-driver

My god uber corporate is amazingly greedy and cutthroat.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: michigancat on May 08, 2015, 10:21:07 AM
Just talked to an uberx driver, he said no one tips on uber which is why he usually drives for lyft, where folks tip about half the time.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Phil Titola on May 08, 2015, 04:35:22 PM
Just talked to an uberx driver, he said no one tips on uber which is why he usually drives for lyft, where folks tip about half the time.

My last UberX driver had a few bills shoved in the cig tray area as a subtle hint I think...the last 4 haven't even attempted to refuse my tip
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: 06wildcat on May 08, 2015, 07:52:23 PM
http://citypaper.net/uberdriver/ (http://citypaper.net/uberdriver/)

 :lol:
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Trim on May 09, 2015, 08:08:32 PM
eff YO REGULATIONS

http://ictrides.com/
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 20, 2015, 11:15:23 AM
http://www.kake.com/home/headlines/Kansas-House-passes-compromise-measure-with-Uber-304294191.html
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Tobias on June 17, 2015, 02:40:55 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/17/us-uber-california-idUSKBN0OX1TE20150617

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A San Francisco-based driver for smartphone-based ride-hailing service Uber is an employee, not a contractor, according to a ruling by the California Labor Commission.

The ruling, filed on Tuesday in state court in San Francisco, was the latest in a host of legal and regulatory challenges facing Uber and other highly valued start-ups in the United States and other countries.

The commission said Uber is "involved in every aspect of the operation."

Classifying Uber drivers as employees opens the company up to considerably higher costs, including Social Security, workers’ compensation and unemployment insurance. That could affect its valuation, currently above $40 billion, and the valuation of other companies that rely on large networks of individuals to provide rides, clean houses and other services.

Uber had argued that its drivers are independent contractors, not employees, and that it is "nothing more than a neutral technology platform."

But the commission said Uber controls the tools driver use, monitors their approval ratings and terminates their access to the system if their ratings fall below 4.6 stars.

The ruling affects only California. However, the state is Uber's home base, one of its largest markets, and sets a path often followed by regulators and courts in other states.

Uber did not immediately respond to a request for comment. It likely will not have to start paying any additional costs unless it loses on appeal, and only after it exhausts its appeals.

The commission was ruling on an appeal by Uber of a labor commissioner's award of about $4,000 in expenses to San Francisco-based driver Barbara Ann Berwick, who filed her claim in September. She worked as an Uber driver for just over two months last year.

Earlier this month, Uber lost a bid to force arbitration in a federal lawsuit brought in San Francisco by its drivers. Earlier this year, the same court rejected Uber's bid to deem its drivers independent contractors, saying a jury would rule on their status.

In Florida, a state agency ruled earlier this year that Uber drivers are employees.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: star seed 7 on June 17, 2015, 03:17:46 PM
Correct ruling
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Jabeez on June 17, 2015, 03:19:57 PM
Correct ruling
Thats just your opinion, man.

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Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: CNS on June 17, 2015, 04:20:40 PM
I disagree.  The operator is providing the equipment and the labor.  That's as subcontractor'ey as it gets, imo.



Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Gooch on June 17, 2015, 04:28:20 PM
Leave Uber alone already. Why is ever-y-one trying to make me drive drunk?
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 17, 2015, 04:34:22 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ellenhuet/2014/10/30/uber-driver-firing-policy/
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: CNS on June 17, 2015, 04:36:27 PM
A subcontractor is contracted on a job by job basis often.  Couldn't each ride be considered a job/contract?
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 17, 2015, 04:38:41 PM
A subcontractor is contracted on a job by job basis often.  Couldn't each ride be considered a job/contract?

I'm not sure they really can. Also, subcontractors typically set their own rates and aren't told not to accept tips.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Gooch on September 07, 2015, 11:27:11 AM
Why were no cars available Saturday?  :frown:
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Asteriskhead on September 07, 2015, 11:55:53 AM
Why were no cars available Saturday?  :frown:

bubbles and i took one on saturday.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: DQ12 on January 31, 2016, 08:35:38 PM
Been using uberpool a lot lately.  Super cheap and most of the time there isn't another rider.  Also nice that it tells you your fare before you order it.  Great service imo.

Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 07, 2016, 03:04:13 PM
Do I have a free ride or not?

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Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on December 21, 2016, 08:49:24 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/dec/19/uber-self-driving-cars-bike-lanes-safety-san-francisco
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: MakeItRain on December 21, 2016, 10:46:50 AM
I enjoy using uber but they have pretty deplorable business practices. I can't recall them ever being correct about any public stance they've taken over any attempted regulation. They are petulant, spoiled children.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: The Big Train on December 21, 2016, 11:25:16 AM
https://techcrunch.com/2016/12/21/uber-losses-expected-to-hit-3-billion-in-2016-despite-revenue-growth/
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: pissclams on December 21, 2016, 12:35:34 PM
I enjoy using uber but they have pretty deplorable business practices. I can't recall them ever being correct about any public stance they've taken over any attempted regulation. They are petulant, spoiled children.
wha?  while i'm not jumping at the chance to defend uber, because their labor practices are a bit booty (but so are taxi companies) a lot of what they've dealt with is archaic regulation that was already in place and served to protect the taxi monopoly.  the medallion system in NYC is a good example of what i'm talking about.  it's very hard to be a disruptor in a government regulated industry and takes a lot of lobbying dollars to buy your share of the market you're wanting to compete in.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 18, 2017, 09:00:38 AM
Have you guys ever had a hard time with the app? For some reason mine hasn't been working. My bro is in town from Louisiana and my friend dropped me off to him and his friends at Westport last night for a few drinks. End of a shitty story, I ended up walking home all the way from Westport.  :lol:
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Gooch on May 18, 2017, 09:02:03 AM
This and sole issues with the gE.com servers? I'm starting to see a pattern develop.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 18, 2017, 09:02:47 AM
Pfftt.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: mocat on May 18, 2017, 09:06:55 AM
Have you guys ever had a hard time with the app? For some reason mine hasn't been working. My bro is in town from Louisiana and my friend dropped me off to him and his friends atWestport last night for a few drinks. End of a shitty story, I ended up walking home all the way from Westport.  :lol:

what the
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: The Big Train on May 18, 2017, 09:13:09 AM
Maybe Uber runs on the same servers that gE does :dunno:
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: mocat on May 18, 2017, 09:15:41 AM
i mean, cab, MAX, mrs wackycat08, etc?
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 18, 2017, 09:20:22 AM
Mrs. wacky wasn't excited that I stayed out, so she didn't answer my phone call. I probably should have called a cab, but it's been so long doing that, I didn't even know where to begin. <----Lazy I guess. I even had the bartender try and do it with my phone and he couldn't figure it out either. The waitress tried it and she was dumbfounded too. I then deleted the app and downloaded it again and had the same problems.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Tobias on May 18, 2017, 09:26:45 AM
no negative consequences
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 18, 2017, 09:29:21 AM
hacked
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Gooch on May 18, 2017, 09:30:23 AM
The Deep State is targeting Wacky for his political beliefs.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 18, 2017, 09:32:13 AM
Mods, please move this to the Unsolved Mysteries Thread.
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 18, 2017, 09:40:54 AM
I bet mrs wacky blocked uber buys from their joint account  :lol:
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Gooch on May 18, 2017, 09:42:36 AM
"Get your ass home on your fun money"
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 18, 2017, 09:46:41 AM
Uber goes to my CC tho.  :curse:
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 18, 2017, 09:54:27 AM
reminds me of when my boy alex goldman had his uber account hacked. episodes 91 AND 93.

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Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: The Big Train on May 18, 2017, 09:54:59 AM
Uber goes to my our CC tho.  :curse:

#MarriedLife
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: star seed 7 on May 18, 2017, 09:55:50 AM
I'm sure glad I don't get the same IT dork issues that wackycat08 does, seems very inconvenient
Title: Re: UberX targeting super stud city MHK
Post by: Tobias on May 18, 2017, 09:58:45 AM
they're going to turn on the kickback virus at 5p today to really mess with him :frown: