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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: Brock Landers on August 21, 2014, 01:45:00 PM
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So, tomorrow I will be attending a Lean 6 Sigma training session at work. Anyone else on here versed in the world of 6 Sigma? I believe blackbelt is the preferred terminology for this and there are other belt colors too but not 100% sure. Is it actually useful/helpful? Can I impress the ladies and write my own paycheck going forward?
Thanks in advance
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There was a band here in Wichita comprised of a bunch of aircraft dorks call Six Stigma. But back to your original question :flush:
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yellow belt here. waste of time. that is all.
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yellow belt here. waste of time. that is all.
yes see my :flush:. That is what you will be doing with your day.
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unless you work in, like, manufacturing or something in which case I think it could have some value.
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There was a band here in Wichita comprised of a bunch of aircraft dorks call Six Stigma. But back to your original question :flush:
They broke up and now the lead singer is in a band named Livy High.
Also, Six Sigma is like just use common sense and don't be an idiot.
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There was a band here in Wichita comprised of a bunch of aircraft dorks call Six Stigma. But back to your original question :flush:
They broke up and now the lead singer is in a band named Livy High.
Also, Six Sigma is like just use common sense and don't be an idiot.
As is 90% of workplace training.
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lean six sigma is more about efficiencies of manual tasks and stuff. it's probably great in a field where that happens and a bunch of people work on a physical product like it was designed for. it's when people think it solves all problems and try to implement it into a field it doesn't translate to when things get mumped up.
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When I took Six Sigma training the great example they used of a success story was at this station a mechanic puts in some rivets...then a few stations later another mechanic has to take out those rivets. So their awesome Six Sigma Lean Kanzen event fixed that problem by moving the rivet install to later.
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wow, look how efficient that chipotle assembly line is! that would translate well to managing a hedge fund. the burrito is the money you guys, we can use that. all employee 5 day trip to chipotle corporate headquarters this fall and BAM! I'm a black belt.
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Hmmm well definitely not in a manufacturing environment but perhaps this could touch on some quality and efficiency issues. (Like every workplace has, duh.)
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Hmmm well definitely not in a manufacturing environment but perhaps this could touch on some quality and efficiency issues. (Like every workplace has, duh.)
they're called pain points and you need to remember what you learned at chipotle in order to fix them.
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There was a band here in Wichita comprised of a bunch of aircraft dorks call Six Stigma. But back to your original question :flush:
They broke up and now the lead singer is in a band named Livy High.
hmm, pretty sure I know this guy
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I just completed my bronze level by successfully completing 50 ALSicebucket challenges and uncorking a bottleneck of bad vibes in my work environ.
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Suggest working four 10hour days. Also suggest eliminating middle management.
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I'm a lean/six sigma black belt. I think it's pretty great, but I'm in manufacturing/operations management. The problem if you're not in manufacturing and you have a consultant doing this stuff they'll still geek out over the six sigma/stats stuff while constantly saying Jack Welch/GE. The lean stuff is still pretty good for service stuff where there's an actual process with inputs/outputs.
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I'm a lean/six sigma black belt. I think it's pretty great, but I'm in manufacturing/operations management. The problem if you're not in manufacturing and you have a consultant doing this stuff they'll still geek out over the six sigma/stats stuff while constantly saying Jack Welch/GE. The lean stuff is still pretty good for service stuff where there's an actual process with inputs/outputs.
:thumbs:
Hamburgler (obviously) knows what he's talking about, it can be used in areas outside of manufacturing, but it's not some kind of silver bullet/fix all
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lol, engineers outed
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lol, engineers outed
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I'm a lean/six sigma black belt. I think it's pretty great, but I'm in manufacturing/operations management. The problem if you're not in manufacturing and you have a consultant doing this stuff they'll still geek out over the six sigma/stats stuff while constantly saying Jack Welch/GE. The lean stuff is still pretty good for service stuff where there's an actual process with inputs/outputs.
sounds horrible.
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I'm a lean/six sigma black belt. I think it's pretty great, but I'm in manufacturing/operations management. The problem if you're not in manufacturing and you have a consultant doing this stuff they'll still geek out over the six sigma/stats stuff while constantly saying Jack Welch/GE. The lean stuff is still pretty good for service stuff where there's an actual process with inputs/outputs.
sounds horrible.
My dream job was IT Auditing. I had to settle.
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I'm a lean/six sigma black belt. I think it's pretty great, but I'm in manufacturing/operations management. The problem if you're not in manufacturing and you have a consultant doing this stuff they'll still geek out over the six sigma/stats stuff while constantly saying Jack Welch/GE. The lean stuff is still pretty good for service stuff where there's an actual process with inputs/outputs.
This is a little more applicable for my situation
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I'm a lean/six sigma black belt. I think it's pretty great, but I'm in manufacturing/operations management. The problem if you're not in manufacturing and you have a consultant doing this stuff they'll still geek out over the six sigma/stats stuff while constantly saying Jack Welch/GE. The lean stuff is still pretty good for service stuff where there's an actual process with inputs/outputs.
sounds horrible.
My dream job was IT Auditing. I had to settle.
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I always think of this thread when I see someone with their Six Sigma color on a business card or email signature
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=31869.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=31869.0)
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I negotiated a midterm pay raise if I agreed to do this stuff.
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Newly minted White Belt here. I feel ready to change my company, nay, the world!
:billdance:
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People keep trying to force it into architecture/construction. It doesn't work. Moving on!
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it's super annoying when people here get on their Lean project kicks because 99% of the projects involve IT doing some pie in the sky bullshit for them and i'm just trying to bbs ya know?
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it's super annoying when people here get on their Lean project kicks because 99% of the projects involve IT doing some pie in the sky bullshit for them and i'm just trying to bbs ya know?
99% shouldn't need IT help/changes. That's just being lazy and trying to get IT to make your shitty processes slightly more efficient shitty processes. If you need any IT help it should be taking turning stuff off, taking away fields, or combining multiple applications into one.
If your IT sees it as "pie-in-the-sky" you're wasting everyone's time.
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never heard of either of these things
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if we call it a kaizen event then people will have to do it the way we say guys. such improvement. so efficiency. wow.
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I think everyone's just dumb and misapplying stuff. seems like on the actual manufacturing side it's actually ok but I just see the general crap from the office workers trying to check off goals on their evaluations or whatever
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I think everyone's just dumb and misapplying stuff. seems like on the actual manufacturing side it's actually ok but I just see the general crap from the office workers trying to check off goals on their evaluations or whatever
please join us in 4th floor conference room B for Tobias' black belt ceremony. we will have drinks and snacks.
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Proven time and again to cost more than it saves, and to completely destroy creativity. Your company will soon be bankrupt, Ts and Ps bro.
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your company may just get hot for it for a bit and then realize it sucks ass before going bankrupt.
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they only do it when sales are slow or something and they get bored (lol). thankfully I haven't really had to deal with it for like 2 years. isn't that crap supposed to be like a continuous process or something? thankfully the lady never comes around anymore (fired?) so it's smooth bbs sailing for your guy tobias
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lots of thankfully's there, may be kinda pak'd
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yeah, continuous improvement! have to have weekly comcells and put crap on the wall to figure out what we can do better and work on pain points! sd, how is your team doing this week on this bullshit? well, we haven't paid attention to it at all and have been whipping ass so put that on a sticky note off to the side I guess.
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Sounds like you guys work for companies that hired low level consultants that are consultants because they suck at actually doing it and your leadership just wants to check a box. Big waste of money, time, and huge morale killer. Ts & Ps.
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oh man, don't think "pain points" is a term I've heard them use yet. we have some "glass wall" reporting crap that's always like two months old. is that a pro term or are we doing some Kroger brand stuff? (pretty sure we are)
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Sounds like you guys work for companies that hired low level consultants that are consultants because they suck at actually doing it and your leadership just wants to check a box. Big waste of money, time, and huge morale killer. Ts & Ps.
that seems 100% accurate from what i can tell
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honestly, it may have done a lot of good for us but they need to keep it at the support staff level. I think in general people doing these black belt projects get stars in their eyes and try to change the game. you aren't billy beane son.
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You know what is efficient? Outsourcing. That is the new lean.
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I have a buddy who got a black belt. Started a new job and after two days he started telling me how effed up the place was and he was gonna sit down with his boss and suggest all of these changes.
I was all, "hang on a second, dumbass!" Then I told him about this really great book called The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People. I told him 'too seek first to understand' and then you can keep your job for longer than 3 days!
Gonna win 'em all!
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dobber, would you like to mentor basically everyone on this message board?
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Pain points is really great for xposting in marketing. Wow, pain points. No one likes pain. Good job.
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Figure out how to charge more for your services - u da real MVP.
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Pain points is really great for xposting in marketing. Wow, pain points. No one likes pain. Good job.
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Figure out how to charge more for your services - u da real MVP.
you don't need to mentor spracne dob's. he's got it.
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dobber, would you like to mentor basically everyone on this message board?
I ALREADY HAVE A FULL TIME JOB!!! :shakesfist: :doesn'treallymeantoshakefistbecauseit'ssd:
Gonna win 'em all!
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Pain points is really great for xposting in marketing. Wow, pain points. No one likes pain. Good job.
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Figure out how to charge more for your services - u da real MVP.
N/m
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Airing out of some real internal corporate butthurt ITT.
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it becomes external butthurt if you talk about it on the board
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Watch the video. This is like education style 6 sigma implementation.
http://cjonline.com/news/2014-08-19/usd-501-admits-student-privacy-violations-says-breach-corrected (http://cjonline.com/news/2014-08-19/usd-501-admits-student-privacy-violations-says-breach-corrected)
USD 501 admits student privacy violations, says breach corrected
Topeka administrators ordered access to sensitive data restricted after Capital-Journal article
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honestly, it may have done a lot of good for us but they need to keep it at the support staff level. I think in general people doing these black belt projects get stars in their eyes and try to change the game. you aren't billy beane son.
This is your best post (that I've read). The beane part sealed it.
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