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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: DQ12 on July 15, 2014, 08:32:03 PM
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So after scouring the internet over the last few weeks, it seems that the take on the 2013 Cats is that while we have an electrifying offense with Tyler Lockett and "the 2nd or 3rd best QB in the league" (which is another odd point entirely), our defense will likely be our downfall this season. Just yesterday, I was reading some top 25 where they compared teams to Star Wars stuff, and we were The Death Star, because we had a great offense but no defense.
This talking point is made up.
People ignore the fact that our defense was pretty damn good last season. In the Big 12, only OU gave up fewer points per game. Adjusted for pace, only OSU gave up fewer points per play. As far as yardage goes, only OU gave up fewer yards total. Only OSU gave up fewer yards per play. We weren't good at 3rd down % (7th in the conference), but we forced 2 turnovers per game (29th in the country, 5th in the Big 12).
If you want to get even nit-pickier, our "Opponent's Fumble Recovery Percentage" was at 59%. 108th in the country, and last in the Big 12. If you're like me, you throw out the "FUMBLE RECOVERIES ARE HUSTLE PLAYS" and realize that fumble recoveries are due in large part to luck. If you want to factor that in (you don't have to), our turnover numbers could have been even better.
The point is, is that we had a top 3 defense in the league last season. We were better than Baylor, better than TCU, better than Texas, better than Tech, and only OSU and OU have legitimate arguments that they were better than us.
Granted, we lose a couple of key players from last year's defense (Daily, Zimmerman), but our other losses (Walker, Slaughter, and Reed) weren't mega factors in last year's defense either. Today's news of Clinkscales more than makes up for Reed's departure, IMO. Schellenberg got a considerable amount of PT last year, and Barnett is flat out good. Evans and Burns are a pretty good one-two punch on the corners, and if McDaniel is as close to as good as advertised, our secondary should be pretty stout, with the only weak spot being the second safety (Schellenberg).
For me, if there are question marks on this team, it ain't about the defense.
So the next time someone tells you that "K-State is going to have a high powered offense with the Waters-Lockett connection, but then that defense..." go ahead and spit on them.
Based on last season and who we have returning, for me, the two biggest question marks are whether our offense can cool it with the turnovers, and (along those same lines) whether Waters continues to improve the way he did in the last third of last season.
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Defense should be solid. We need another pass rusher though besides Mueller.
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Held Baylor to season scoring low too
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Held Baylor to season scoring low too
Awesome. Baylor almost came within 2 TDs of beating ucf.
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Fantastic point dlew.
I was EXTREMELY worried about our defense heading into '13. Losing AB, essentially the entire DL, Tuggle, Childs, both corners, depth across the board. The D exceeded my expectations immensely.
If there is any part of the defense I'm concerned about it is the backfield. As you pointed out Barnett is good and you failed to mention Randall Evans. However, Schellenberger is not a good enough athlete to be on the field for a team that is a Big 12 title contender. Just watch his tape against OU. Awful.
We should be markedly better at one CB position now that Dorian Roberts isn't on the team. McDaniel and potentially Mack :crossfingers: will be big upgrades. I am skeptical about Burns as a full time CB.
Moreso, my real concern is on offense with the running back position. I've always said that the RB position is "dime a dozen", "only as good as the OL", etc. But in our games against the best 5 defenses in the Big 12, we averaged only 40 ypg from the running back position.
Yikes.
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The Jake "I'd rather be in Ames" Waters hatewagon should pick up steam during the season. I'm calling shotgun right now...plenty of room to jump on later guys
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The Jake "I'd rather be in Ames" Waters hatewagon should pick up steam during the season. I'm calling shotgun right now...plenty of room to jump on later guys
Because he is not a run first QB and that his presence instead of Sams will negatively impact our run game?
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The Jake "I'd rather be in Ames" Waters hatewagon should pick up steam during the season. I'm calling shotgun right now...plenty of room to jump on later guys
Because he is not a run first QB and that his presence instead of Sams will negatively impact our run game?
More along the lines of he is a shitty QB and can only throw up bombs to TLBL after he clowns fools
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Moreso, my real concern is on offense with the running back position. I've always said that the RB position is "dime a dozen", "only as good as the OL", etc. But in our games against the best 5 defenses in the Big 12, we averaged only 40 ypg from the running back position.
Yikes.
Regarding last year's running back output, I think a lot of that had to do with our qb situation.
I assume the games to which you're referring are TCU, OU, Texas and OSU. I don't know what other Big 12 game you're counting, because Hubert's next lowest output was 86 yards vs. West Virginia.
Anyhow, yeah, our RBs didn't get great production in those games. But it wasn't like our O-Line was getting manhandled and we had no running game at all.
OU is the obvious exception here, but K-State averaged 9.3 ypp in that game, so I'm pretty meh about our run production for that game.
Against OSU, Hubert ran for 30 yards on only seven attempts. That's kind of the quintessential Sams game, where he ran for 118 yards on 27 (!!!!) carries. Their ypc was 4.3 and 4.4 respectively.
Against Texas, we put the game in Waters hands. Hubert had only 12 rushes at 3.3 ypc.
Against TCU, Hubert had 6 carries at 4.2 ypc. Sams went on for 19 carries at 5.2 ypc.
So I mean, yeah, against the 4 best defenses in the conference, our RB production was low, but given the carries we gave Hubert, it seems like it was more or less by design -- either because we wanted Sams running it, or because we wanted to put the game in Waters hands, and use Hubert as a means to "keep them honest."
I really don't think we'll look back on this season and say that our RB situation was our fatal flaw.
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Sean Newlan will take Schnellenburgers spot by week 2 and it's not even close. <--- overused bbs phrase, but appropriate in this situ
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Sean Newlan will take Schnellenburgers spot by week 2 and it's not even close. <--- overused bbs phrase, but appropriate in this situ
I hope so.
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Moreso, my real concern is on offense with the running back position. I've always said that the RB position is "dime a dozen", "only as good as the OL", etc. But in our games against the best 5 defenses in the Big 12, we averaged only 40 ypg from the running back position.
Yikes.
Regarding last year's running back output, I think a lot of that had to do with our qb situation.
Yeah, I agree with the RB output and the qb situation being related.
Now that we don't have the option of having a glorified running back at QB to take the bulk of the run game, add in we have absolutely zero returning experience at RB position and it leads me to believe that we are going to be terribly unbalanced on offense.
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Moreso, my real concern is on offense with the running back position. I've always said that the RB position is "dime a dozen", "only as good as the OL", etc. But in our games against the best 5 defenses in the Big 12, we averaged only 40 ypg from the running back position.
Yikes.
Regarding last year's running back output, I think a lot of that had to do with our qb situation.
Yeah, I agree with the RB output and the qb situation being related.
Now that we don't have the option of having a glorified running back at QB to take the bulk of the run game, add in we have absolutely zero returning experience at RB position and it leads me to believe that we are going to be terribly unbalanced on offense.
It is a major concern.
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Sean Newlan will take Schnellenburgers spot by week 2 and it's not even close. <--- overused bbs phrase, but appropriate in this situ
Sean Newlan looks like another Schellenberg to me.
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The Jake "I'd rather be in Ames" Waters hatewagon should pick up steam during the season. I'm calling shotgun right now...plenty of room to jump on later guys
Because he is not a run first QB and that his presence instead of Sams will negatively impact our run game?
More along the lines of he is a shitty QB and can only throw up bombs to TLBL after he clowns fools
:facepalm:
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Lot of HFBIQ from our young bucks in this thread. I like it.
_Fan, Catzacker, and Hatter aren't going to live forever.
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Hey guys, make sure to watch out for WC at the games. He will be the guy in the lots complaining about that terribly awful negro that cost us so many games last season, strutting around about a 6-6 team
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Moreso, my real concern is on offense with the running back position. I've always said that the RB position is "dime a dozen", "only as good as the OL", etc. But in our games against the best 5 defenses in the Big 12, we averaged only 40 ypg from the running back position.
Yikes.
Regarding last year's running back output, I think a lot of that had to do with our qb situation.
Yeah, I agree with the RB output and the qb situation being related.
Now that we don't have the option of having a glorified running back at QB to take the bulk of the run game, add in we have absolutely zero returning experience at RB position and it leads me to believe that we are going to be terribly unbalanced on offense.
It makes me think that last year's RB production was artificially low because the QB was getting a significant portion of the carries, and averaging roughly the same YPC -- just with more carries. The truth is probably somewhere in the between.
Historically, RB experience really isn't very important. In 2011, Hubert had no more experience than some of our backs this year. Hell, Patton and Johnson in 2006 was a great question-mark-ladened duo. I'm just of the opinion that whether it's mainly one guy, or by committee, we'll probably be looking at a season of roughly 90 ypg on 20-25 carries.
Waters and Lockett need to be very good this season. Period. If they are, that'll do a lot to free up the ground game to keep us a little balanced.
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Hey guys, make sure to watch out for WC at the games. He will be the guy in the lots complaining about that terribly awful negro that cost us so many games last season, strutting around about a 6-6 team
Gosh almighty. Your dumbass is insufferable.
Take your Sams misery elsewhere. Most of us have moved on.
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Sean Newlan will take Schnellenburgers spot by week 2 and it's not even close. <--- overused bbs phrase, but appropriate in this situ
Sean Newlan looks like another Schellenberg to me.
And you look like another PowercatPat to me. Which is a bad thing because PowercatPat sucks and you're him.
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Hey guys, make sure to watch out for WC at the games. He will be the guy in the lots complaining about that terribly awful negro that cost us so many games last season, strutting around about a 6-6 team
Gosh almighty. Your dumbass is insufferable.
Take your Sams misery elsewhere. Most of us have moved on.
Better to agree with your buds than admit that the most glaring weakness on this team is a QB that can do nothing but throw a deep ball to a guy that can beat double coverage all by himself. Let's book a charter to Ames...that's where most of you losers belong
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I hope we are like the Rich Gannon Raiders.
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Hey guys, make sure to watch out for WC at the games. He will be the guy in the lots complaining about that terribly awful negro that cost us so many games last season, strutting around about a 6-6 team
wtf is this?!
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Hey guys, make sure to watch out for WC at the games. He will be the guy in the lots complaining about that terribly awful negro that cost us so many games last season, strutting around about a 6-6 team
Gosh almighty. Your dumbass is insufferable.
Take your Sams misery elsewhere. Most of us have moved on.
Better to agree with your buds than admit that the most glaring weakness on this team is a QB that can do nothing but throw a deep ball to a guy that can beat double coverage all by himself. Let's book a charter to Ames...that's where most of you losers belong
Jesus! You're a rough ridin' dumbass.
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Fantastic point dlew.
I was EXTREMELY worried about our defense heading into '13. Losing AB, essentially the entire DL, Tuggle, Childs, both corners, depth across the board. The D exceeded my expectations immensely.
If there is any part of the defense I'm concerned about it is the backfield. As you pointed out Barnett is good and you failed to mention Randall Evans. However, Schellenberger is not a good enough athlete to be on the field for a team that is a Big 12 title contender. Just watch his tape against OU. Awful.
We should be markedly better at one CB position now that Dorian Roberts isn't on the team. McDaniel and potentially Mack :crossfingers: will be big upgrades. I am skeptical about Burns as a full time CB.
Moreso, my real concern is on offense with the running back position. I've always said that the RB position is "dime a dozen", "only as good as the OL", etc. But in our games against the best 5 defenses in the Big 12, we averaged only 40 ypg from the running back position.
Yikes.
Damn, I was really worried that I have never heard of this player; then I realized you were actually saying "more so" :surprised:
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Better to agree with your buds than admit that the most glaring weakness on this team is a QB that can do nothing but throw a deep ball to a guy that can beat double coverage all by himself. Let's book a charter to Ames...that's where most of you losers belong
Based on last season and who we have returning, for me, the two biggest question marks are whether our offense can cool it with the turnovers, and (along those same lines) whether Waters continues to improve the way he did in the last third of last season.
:dunno:
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LHC Bill Snyder was Drew Breezing the Big 8 with Chad May, and the Big 10 with Chuck Long, WAY (couldn't say "long" again) before he was known as a dual threat coach.
He rough ridin' knows how to toss it around.
If our OL can pass block (will defer to Hatter on this) we can make some noise.
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Moreso, my real concern is on offense with the running back position. I've always said that the RB position is "dime a dozen", "only as good as the OL", etc. But in our games against the best 5 defenses in the Big 12, we averaged only 40 ypg from the running back position.
Yikes.
Regarding last year's running back output, I think a lot of that had to do with our qb situation.
Yeah, I agree with the RB output and the qb situation being related.
Now that we don't have the option of having a glorified running back at QB to take the bulk of the run game, add in we have absolutely zero returning experience at RB position and it leads me to believe that we are going to be terribly unbalanced on offense.
^^THIS^^
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In any event, it's refreshing to know that in a thread based on the unfounded perception that the Cats have a strong offense and poor defense, the conversation has largely ignored the defensive "concerns," and primarily focused on the offensive question marks.
And rightfully so.
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I, for one, am still concerned about LB until we see them.
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Lot of HFBIQ from our young bucks in this thread. I like it.
_Fan, Catzacker, and Hatter aren't going to live forever.
I not either, but who's counting. :whistle1:
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In any event, it's refreshing to know that in a thread based on the unfounded perception that the Cats have a strong offense and poor defense, the conversation has largely ignored the defensive "concerns," and primarily focused on the offensive question marks.
And rightfully so.
BUT, we play in the "last team to score, wins" conference. REMEMBER!
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LHC Bill Snyder was Drew Breezing the Big 8 with Chad May, and the Big 10 with Chuck Long, WAY (couldn't say "long" again) before he was known as a dual threat coach.
He rough ridin' knows how to toss it around.
If our OL can pass block (will defer to Hatter on this) we can make some noise.
Yeah. And hopefully Waters can continue to get more comfortable in the pocket. K-State was sacked a lot last year (7.17% of passing attempts. 87th lowest in the nation).
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Guys, this COULD be the most interesting season ever.
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Hey guys, make sure to watch out for WC at the games. He will be the guy in the lots complaining about that terribly awful negro that cost us so many games last season, strutting around about a 6-6 team
WUT??? Who even talks like that anymore???
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I had no idea how much love there was for Jake "I'd love to drown in Iowa".
Holy crap at you morons thinking this rough ridin' redneck is actually gonna be serviceable :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
1985 Bo Jackson wouldn't save this team. Forget the defense, they will be fine. We have a rough ridin' special ed kid from Iowa as our QB...think about that
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Guys, this COULD be the most interesting season ever.
Last season will b tuff 2 top. NDSU? 2-4?! Season long QB battle?! Blowing out Michigan?!
:Wha:
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Guys, this COULD be the most interesting season ever.
Last season will b tuff 2 top. NDSU? 2-4?! Season long QB battle?! Blowing out Michigan?!
:Wha:
If we beat Auburn though....
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Great stuff D Lew. You just got me excited for football season. Not shark week excited, but still excited. Should I be concerned about WR depth? Because I am. Lockett has never stayed healthy all year, and I don't see much else. Am I wrong? Thanks Dlew.
We've known of #LIFE's awfulness all summer in the Royals thread. He's the worst.
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i found last season more frustrating than interesting, personally. though there is plenty of room for overlap
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Also I like this policy of spitting on idiots who say our D will suck. I might start chewing tobacco just to make it juicier.
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i found last season more frustrating than interesting, personally. though there is plenty of room for overlap
completely. There were some pud seasons like 2009 I found more interesting for whatever reason.
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Guys, this COULD be the most interesting season ever.
Last season will b tuff 2 top. NDSU? 2-4?! Season long QB battle?! Blowing out Michigan?!
:Wha:
If we beat Auburn though....
There could be a top ten showdown in Norman.
Also, I already checked and to answer your question, it's pretty unlikely. A&M at Bama. Washington at Oregon. Notre Dame at FSU.
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Also, "Today's News of Clinkscale"? What happened with him today?
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For whatever reason the seasons I find most interesting are the ones where we win tons.
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Also, "Today's News of Clinkscale"? What happened with him today?
Apparently, he's qualified and is all set to come.
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I bet we are more bendy and less breaky than last year go rough riding cats
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Also, "Today's News of Clinkscale"? What happened with him today?
Ya, I wondered too
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I had no idea how much love there was for Jake "I'd love to drown in Iowa".
Holy crap at you morons thinking this rough ridin' redneck is actually gonna be serviceable :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
1985 Bo Jackson wouldn't save this team. Forget the defense, they will be fine. We have a rough ridin' special ed kid from Iowa as our QB...think about that
What the eff is wrong with you. You do know Waters was the 2012 number one JC QB in the nation. Won a the national championship; kind of like some QB named Bishop or Newton. :facepalm:
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Also, "Today's News of Clinkscale"? What happened with him today?
Apparently, he's qualified and is all set to come.
Woot
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Also, "Today's News of Clinkscale"? What happened with him today?
Apparently, he's qualified and is all set to come.
Well I'm all set to party in that case
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more excited for this year than last year. drugs?
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Also, "Today's News of Clinkscale"? What happened with him today?
Apparently, he's qualified and is all set to come.
Well I'm all set to party in that case
We really should. How does your calendar look?
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Also, "Today's News of Clinkscale"? What happened with him today?
Apparently, he's qualified and is all set to come.
Well I'm all set to party in that case
We really should. How does your calendar look?
my buddy tony (we call him boner for short) is getting a vasectomy Thursday so we're taking him to planet of the apes tomorrow. then after that its party time.
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I had no idea how much love there was for Jake "I'd love to drown in Iowa".
Holy crap at you morons thinking this rough ridin' redneck is actually gonna be serviceable :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
1985 Bo Jackson wouldn't save this team. Forget the defense, they will be fine. We have a rough ridin' special ed kid from Iowa as our QB...think about that
What the eff is wrong with you. You do know Waters was the 2012 number one JC QB in the nation. Won a the national championship; kind of like some QB named Bishop or Newton. :facepalm:
Nice troll job, not falling for it. Comparing a floodaggie to Bishop and Newton :lol:
Nice one bro :lol:
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Guys, this is a great thread. The kind I really like to participate, as long as the LIQFB (#Life) types refrain from posting. Also, Pete is the right type to keep this crowd interested. Thx. Pete.
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I'm pretty pumped about this season. If anything, I'm excited to find some new wildcat studs to root for, like Judah! :D
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cartier, you should pencil in sept 6 with a kazzoo (sp?)
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cartier, you should pencil in sept 6 with a kazzoo (sp?)
It could be doable Tobias.
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:party:
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its written in pencil tobias. pencil. with an eraser.
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its written in pencil tobias. pencil. with an eraser.
wtf do I need to do?!
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I usually low-key to to bb roadies and visit lil sis. not afraid to tell her sorry not sorry
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its written in pencil tobias. pencil. with an eraser.
wtf do I need to do?!
there's a lot of moving parts and Mrs. CF3 fell asleep a while ago so you're just going to have to hold your horses. you thinkin' couples retreat or bros weekend (no rockstate2000)?
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Guys, this is a great thread. The kind I really like to participate, as long as the LIQFB (#Life) types refrain from posting. Also, Pete is the right type to keep this crowd interested. Thx. Pete.
There is a lot of people that agree with me, they're just afraid to go against the groupthink of the gE fanboys. Wait until a couple games in when that rough ridin' hillbilly is throwing 5 INT's a game and see how the groupthink changes. You rough ridin' idiots with your "we can only have 1 idea" are pathetic. Have fun being happy with 6-6 dipshits
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more likely bros due to massive assumption of ms tobias' work schedule that time of year, but not afraid to be classy
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I'm pretty fun in bros weekend situations
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Guys, this is a great thread. The kind I really like to participate, as long as the LIQFB (#Life) types refrain from posting. Also, Pete is the right type to keep this crowd interested. Thx. Pete.
There is a lot of people that agree with me, they're just afraid to go against the groupthink of the gE fanboys. Wait until a couple games in when that rough ridin' hillbilly is throwing 5 INT's a game and see how the groupthink changes. You rough ridin' idiots with your "we can only have 1 idea" are pathetic. Have fun being happy with 6-6 dipshits
We all get that Sams is gone. But that doesn't mean we need to hate on the ONLY hope we have for a decent season. Also we won with worst QB's. As Pete stated earlier, LHCBS played spread before it was the fashionable thing to do. Just get used to the fact that we don't have an RB behind center that can occasionally throw the ball. I just hope they don't even try to do that with Waters, because then your pessimistic predictions may come true.
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I'm pretty fun in bros weekend situations
How about three Amigo's? :party:
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Does anyone else hear Tull's: "Thick as a brick" everytime you read one of #LIFE's posts?
The worst part is that I'm not sure if its the remarkable parallelism between #LIFE's disposition and the title or the song or just the fact that he comes across so fruity that I instantly think that he's just a fruity commie bastard.
At any rate I thought I would give you folks that have had the pleasure of not reading the past several pages a quick recap of #LIFE's weak assed "smack" since he's been here...
More along the lines of he is a shitty QB and can only throw up bombs to TLBL after he clowns fools
Better to agree with your buds than admit that the most glaring weakness on this team is a QB that can do nothing but throw a deep ball to a guy that can beat double coverage all by himself. Let's book a charter to Ames...that's where most of you losers belong
There is a lot of people that agree with me, they're just afraid to go against the groupthink of the gE fanboys. Wait until a couple games in when that rough ridin' hillbilly is throwing 5 INT's a game and see how the groupthink changes. You rough ridin' idiots with your "we can only have 1 idea" are pathetic. Have fun being happy with 6-6 dipshits
Brilliant..... :jerk:
I'm not even sure I could assort you as an adversary at this point because in order to be considered an opponent, there would need to be a contest.
Thus far, the only thing you have schooled anyone on is the finer points of being an insufferable idiot.
And give it up already, pal. Daniel Sams is gone. We moved on. Apparently you're still stuck in the past and quite frankly, the way your luck is going, if you won a pussy in a raffle it would already have a dick in it.
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LBs could be a bit concerning. Truman will be unspectacular, but steady. After that, who knows? Can Mike Moore become an every down 'backer? Can Derricott or Riddle come in and pick up the schemes fast enough for one of them to start? Who else is going to step up - Will Davis? Dakorey Johnson?
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ms tobias confirmed out, fwiw
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LBs could be a bit concerning. Truman will be unspectacular, but steady. After that, who knows? Can Mike Moore become an every down 'backer? Can Derricott or Riddle come in and pick up the schemes fast enough for one of them to start? Who else is going to step up - Will Davis? Dakorey Johnson?
The options are green/unknown, but I like the sheer number of bodies we have at the position. It gives me hope that someone will step up.
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The news regarding Clink is off the charts good. The only reason he wasn't recruited by every national program is because he was a qualifying long shot. We took a risk, and it paid off. He was much more important to this year than Derricott. Even if Derricott is in good shape (I still think he was trolling with that picture), he was going to be behind Davis and Moore. Davis is going to be stud. Our D is going to be awesome for next two years.
The only position that worries me is left tackle. Lucas didnt have the all-American season I thought he would last year, but he was still very good. Apparently nobody (including Hayes) has stepped up in that position. For the whole Waters-to-Lockett thing to work, we can't have our qb getting speared in the back.....like the last time we played Auburn.
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Granted, I know that spring practice isn't really much to write home about, but I think the overall depth is much stronger now than what it is. I get the feeling the overall depth is (not that good, but maybe close) during the early 2000 teams.
I'm not overly concerned about it too much. Just hope that everyone stay healthy, and also hope that Warmack is ready to bust it out.
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The news regarding Clink is off the charts good. The only reason he wasn't recruited by every national program is because he was a qualifying long shot. We took a risk, and it paid off. He was much more important to this year than Derricott. Even if Derricott is in good shape (I still think he was trolling with that picture), he was going to be behind Davis and Moore. Davis is going to be stud. Our D is going to be awesome for next two years.
The only position that worries me is left tackle. Lucas didnt have the all-American season I thought he would last year, but he was still very good. Apparently nobody (including Hayes) has stepped up in that position. For the whole Waters-to-Lockett thing to work, we can't have our qb getting speared in the back.....like the last time we played Auburn.
I agree. The only concern I really do have is the OT's. The guards and centers, not so much, but the RT and LT is a concern. I would not be one bit surprised to see some double TE formations to provide some protection on the T positions, or Gronk lined up at the TE position.
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I, for one, am still concerned about LB until we see them.
i'm concerned about the fact that we don't have a single NFL caliber player on our defense, but i'm a worrier
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Does anyone else hear Tull's: "Thick as a brick" everytime you read one of #LIFE's posts?
The worst part is that I'm not sure if its the remarkable parallelism between #LIFE's disposition and the title or the song or just the fact that he comes across so fruity that I instantly think that he's just a fruity commie bastard.
At any rate I thought I would give you folks that have had the pleasure of not reading the past several pages a quick recap of #LIFE's weak assed "smack" since he's been here...
More along the lines of he is a shitty QB and can only throw up bombs to TLBL after he clowns fools
Better to agree with your buds than admit that the most glaring weakness on this team is a QB that can do nothing but throw a deep ball to a guy that can beat double coverage all by himself. Let's book a charter to Ames...that's where most of you losers belong
There is a lot of people that agree with me, they're just afraid to go against the groupthink of the gE fanboys. Wait until a couple games in when that rough ridin' hillbilly is throwing 5 INT's a game and see how the groupthink changes. You rough ridin' idiots with your "we can only have 1 idea" are pathetic. Have fun being happy with 6-6 dipshits
Brilliant..... :jerk:
I'm not even sure I could assort you as an adversary at this point because in order to be considered an opponent, there would need to be a contest.
Thus far, the only thing you have schooled anyone on is the finer points of being an insufferable idiot.
And give it up already, pal. Daniel Sams is gone. We moved on. Apparently you're still stuck in the past and quite frankly, the way your luck is going, if you won a pussy in a raffle it would already have a dick in it.
NO KATDADDY!
jk :D
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All this talk about football... :excited: :ksu:
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LBs could be a bit concerning. Truman will be unspectacular, but steady. After that, who knows? Can Mike Moore become an every down 'backer? Can Derricott or Riddle come in and pick up the schemes fast enough for one of them to start? Who else is going to step up - Will Davis? Dakorey Johnson?
There are a lot of questions about this team, due to all the untested players. But do you remember three seasons ago? Just before the season started, we thought we had a sure thing at RB with Brice Brown, Hubert and the QB/RB from Hutch JC. We called them the three head monster; and look how that turned out. All in all, this is what makes me so excited for the upcoming season.
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man dlew, talk about breathing some life into this place :excited:
ftr, i'm team warmack being a stud from day one. i also, and this is simply based off of watching his highlight tapes and being ridiculously optimistic, but i think riddle can be a terror off the edge in pass rush situations. call me crazy. also, how on earth did clinks pass like 30 hours in a semester!?!? :ksu:
was it another mcc miracle?? emadub, can co??
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The news regarding Clink is off the charts good. The only reason he wasn't recruited by every national program is because he was a qualifying long shot. We took a risk, and it paid off. He was much more important to this year than Derricott. Even if Derricott is in good shape (I still think he was trolling with that picture), he was going to be behind Davis and Moore. Davis is going to be stud. Our D is going to be awesome for next two years.
The only position that worries me is left tackle. Lucas didnt have the all-American season I thought he would last year, but he was still very good. Apparently nobody (including Hayes) has stepped up in that position. For the whole Waters-to-Lockett thing to work, we can't have our qb getting speared in the back.....like the last time we played Auburn.
Kinda nit picking here but it's looks like Clink was recruited by just about everybody, qualifying risk or not.
https://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/football/recruiting/player-Terrell-Clinkscales-152642;_ylt=ArcA03QAeTmDhqvGyI0FKkjksJB4
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Excellent July football thread. Good stuff.
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The news regarding Clink is off the charts good. The only reason he wasn't recruited by every national program is because he was a qualifying long shot. We took a risk, and it paid off. He was much more important to this year than Derricott. Even if Derricott is in good shape (I still think he was trolling with that picture), he was going to be behind Davis and Moore. Davis is going to be stud. Our D is going to be awesome for next two years.
The only position that worries me is left tackle. Lucas didnt have the all-American season I thought he would last year, but he was still very good. Apparently nobody (including Hayes) has stepped up in that position. For the whole Waters-to-Lockett thing to work, we can't have our qb getting speared in the back.....like the last time we played Auburn.
Kinda nit picking here but it's looks like Clink was recruited by just about everybody, qualifying risk or not.
https://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/football/recruiting/player-Terrell-Clinkscales-152642;_ylt=ArcA03QAeTmDhqvGyI0FKkjksJB4
Here's the list:
School
Interest
Offer
Visit
Recruited by
Kansas St.
COMMITTED (12/01/2013) Offered 11/15/2013 Mo Latimore, Charlie Dickey
Alabama
Offered
Arizona St
Offered
Arkansas
Offered
Auburn
Offered
Cincinnati
Offered
Colorado St.
Offered
Georgia
Offered
Illinois
Offered
Indiana
Offered
Iowa St.
Offered 10/03/2013
Kentucky
Offered
Miami (FL)
Offered
Mississippi St.
Offered
Nebraska
Offered 11/28/2013 Rick Kaczenski
Ohio St.
Offered
Oregon
Offered
Penn St.
Offered
South Alabama
Offered
Southern Miss
Offered
Temple
Offered
Texas Tech
Offered
Utah St.
Offered
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So after scouring the internet over the last few weeks, it seems that the take on the 2013 Cats is that while we have an electrifying offense with Tyler Lockett and "the 2nd or 3rd best QB in the league" (which is another odd point entirely), our defense will likely be our downfall this season. Just yesterday, I was reading some top 25 where they compared teams to Star Wars stuff, and we were The Death Star, because we had a great offense but no defense.
Looking for love in Alderaan places... :whistle1:
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i will go on record as saying we will have a better defense this year than last and it will be the best in the big 12. mark it down close the case take a note i dont care. our secondary is going to be ridiculously good this year
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With Clinks qualifying, our DL and pass rush is the least of my worries. I'm pretty excited about this defense.
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i will go on record as saying we will have a better defense this year than last and it will be the best in the big 12. mark it down close the case take a note i dont care. our secondary is going to be ridiculously good this year
Interesting if true...
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yep, pretty great preseason thread here
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i will go on record as saying we will have a better defense this year than last and it will be the best in the big 12. mark it down close the case take a note i dont care. our secondary is going to be ridiculously good this year
Interesting if true...
its july pete of course its true
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I'm a bit concerned about LB.When was the last time we brought in jucos at that position? ever? I can't remember a juco LB making an impact for us, am I wrong? I don't want to suck at LB
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good scoop, 'lew. i think our DEFcats are gonna be pretty good this year as well.
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Great thread. Would read again.
However, I almost stopped before reading the entire original post because it says "2013 Cats" instead of 2014... Glad I read it all though, it really helps me understand who has a clue about football, our team & our competition and who doesn't.
Carry on.
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Completely forgot about Riddle. What a signing day surprise that was.
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Whitehair is moving to tackle, yes?
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Guys did you see where I said I was concerned about WR depth? Seems like something we should blog about. Am I way off on this guys?
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You know what would have been awesome?
Waters to Harper.
I was just thinking about that last night.
:love:
I think we are going to be good this year, and REALLY good next year.
CF3:
I think our WR depth is pretty good. Dre is going to do work IMO
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Guys did you see where I said I was concerned about WR depth? Seems like something we should blog about. Am I way off on this guys?
not way off at all most concerning position other than rb. Hopefully sexton stays healthy and Klein contributes
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Guys did you see where I said I was concerned about WR depth? Seems like something we should blog about. Am I way off on this guys?
it will definitely be interesting to see how WR shakes out during fall camp and even over the course of the season.
we know what we have in lockett. no discussion necessary.
most likely candidate for a no. 2 is sexton, but he (or whoever actually does emerge as our no. 2) is going to really need to do at least what tramaine did last year in order for our passing game to be effective.
I really like what I saw from burton in the spring game and I think he'll be a starter, though it could be a dogfight with davis for that last spot.
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I'm a bit concerned about LB.When was the last time we brought in jucos at that position? ever? I can't remember a juco LB making an impact for us, am I wrong? I don't want to suck at LB
not sure if serious.
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I’d have to say that #LIFE is probably Kim Carnes most aggressive sock.
Other than his ridiculous outbursts, great thread guys.
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One of the things lost on most when worrying about the RB situation is the fact that Baby Gronk is likely going to prove to be a very effective ball carrier in addition to being a blocker and receiver outta the backfield.
Granted, he won't have the "wiggle" that Hubert had to make people miss, but we have a ton of options in which to just hand him the ball. RB should turn out to be very serviceable considering everything our offense presents to a defense.
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I'm probably more bullish on the secondary than most. I think Barnett is going to be either first or second team all-big 12. I'm more confident in this group of CB's than I have been since, probably, 2003. Somewhere between Evans, Jackson, McDaniel, Burns, Mack, and Moore, we'll find 2-3 good guys. McDaniel and Evans are really prototypical nickel CB's that will allow us to run a very nice 4-2-5 base and have adequate size and strength in that formation. The other guys are, at worst, a push with Daily and Roberts...throughout the two deep.
Concerns with Schelly are valid. My hope is that Newlan or Green are able to step up and push him back down to back up status.
Linebacker doesn't really concern me that much because I don't think we'll be in a 4-3 base very much. Otherwise, Truman and Davis will be sure tacklers, if not incredibly athletic in space, and if we need to boost the athleticism, you can switch out Davis for Derricott or Riddle. If you want to go to a 4-3 and use the third linebacker as an extra pass rusher, Moore is a really intriguing weapon there.
I get an analysts view that, overall, we may not have NFL talent across the defense, therefore, we won't have a great one, but what we do have, in my opinion, is an outstanding pass rusher, an all-conference safety that can plug up holes and create turnover opportunities, and a slew of guys that fit specific, package based roles really well.
The question, IMO, is whether or not the coaches are able to get those guys into the right situations at the right times to maximize our success. However, given how well Hayes has done the past few years, and how really well he hid deficiencies in a very average defense last year, it makes me feel like we can force the issue on defense more this year than in years past because we have Big 12 talent in the secondary, sure tackling linebackers, and pass rushers that can cause an offense problems.
I'm with Pete; if we beat Auburn... @OU takes on a whole new meaning because the offense is going to show up this year. Snyder ALWAYS sees major offensive improvement under a second year starting QB. And, to be honest, the most talented position group on the whole team, IMO, is wide receiver.
I think we're going to win at least ten games with an outside chance at 11. If we get really, really lucky and stay injury free, I don't think a repeat of 2012 is out of the question. To me, this team is built and assembled to the point where we could be in playoff contention sometime in November.
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One of the things lost on most when worrying about the RB situation is the fact that Baby Gronk is likely going to prove to be a very effective ball carrier in addition to being a blocker and receiver outta the backfield.
Granted, he won't have the "wiggle" that Hubert had to make people miss, but we have a ton of options in which to just hand him the ball. RB should turn out to be very serviceable considering everything our offense presents to a defense.
I just want us to do something interesting with RB. We have a lot of different options between designed runs for Waters, Gronk, Leverett, and Warmack.
I just hope we don't get all boring and predictable with it. Commit to mixing it up.
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CF3 I feel good about he WR, we got the JuCo Davis to add to the mix, and and maybe Judah can be good too (I think so), but yeah, definitely need Sexton, baby Klein and maybe even Baby Sexton to be effective receivers and provide relief for Lockett.
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One of the things lost on most when worrying about the RB situation is the fact that Baby Gronk is likely going to prove to be a very effective ball carrier in addition to being a blocker and receiver outta the backfield.
Granted, he won't have the "wiggle" that Hubert had to make people miss, but we have a ton of options in which to just hand him the ball. RB should turn out to be very serviceable considering everything our offense presents to a defense.
I just want us to do something interesting with RB. We have a lot of different options between designed runs for Waters, Gronk, Leverett, and Warmack.
I just hope we don't get all boring and predictable with it. Commit to mixing it up.
I wonder how much Jones (judah and Charles) will play at the RB position as well.
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Sexton and Lockett are going to be a great tandem. Waters and those guys have got it down. WR will be fine.
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CF3 I feel good about he WR, we got the JuCo Davis to add to the mix, and and maybe Judah can be good too (I think so), but yeah, definitely need Sexton, baby Klein and maybe even Baby Sexton to be effective receivers and provide relief for Lockett.
That's the thing...
With Lockett on the outside causing problems, you have Burton, Jones, Davis, and Sexton to cause problems on the inside. The fact that we return Trujillo and Gronk...well, that allows us to diversify the passing attack.
Waters is going to have viable options in all sections of the field. It's on him to make sure that he's consistently hitting the short and intermediate passes to take pressure off of Lockett.
Tyler is going to get safety cover all of the time. That's going to allow someone to get free underneath.
Unfortunately, that hasn't been Waters' strength thus far. For a guy that's so good with the deep ball, he tends to skip or sail stuff underneath.
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For every question mark we have on this team I believe we have more potential answers then we had in the past couple of years. I also believe we haven't had this this much athletic potential for quite sometime.
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Good stuff Dlew. :thumbs:
The most important addition of DOD Pt. II:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcjonline.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fimagecache%2Fsuperphoto%2F10928166.jpg&hash=debe992f12a82d400fe417b64c805d4dc9f4027e)
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This guy rates K-State's QB situation as #30 in college football
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000364816/article/ranking-every-fbs-qb-situation-nos-2130 (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000364816/article/ranking-every-fbs-qb-situation-nos-2130)
FWIW KU is down past 100 somewhere
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Really enjoyed this thread, Dlew. Thank you.
My LFBIQ Points
Defense
*The Clinks news is rough ridin' outstanding! He shoulb be able to come in and contribute immediately and probably has the potential to be really, really great. Imagine what Mueller will be able to do with Britz and Clinks potentially causing so many problems on the inside.
*I'm not worried at all about Linebacker. That photo of Dvonta is a little sad since he clearly looks a little out of shape and I had VERY high expectations for him. But I think Truman will be steady and the very athletic combination of Riddle, Dakorey, Moore and Dvonta should make this group possibly about as good as Tuggle and ABJ were.
*I'm excited about the potential of our CBs, especially after how frustrating they were last year (Eff you Dorian). I think McDaniel will be a fan favorite and will hit like a linebacker. I'm really hoping Burns can be a starter because we need his speed to compete with the elite teams.
*Strong Safety is my biggest concern by far. We know we have a solid FS in Barnett and Evans as a NB will also be good, but we cannot have Schellenberg as a starter if we expect to do anything special this season, IMO. We need Newlan or Green to step up and carry on the torch for Zims.
Offense
*QB and WR will be fantastic this year. Anyone who doesn't think so is probably a KC sock.
*Defniitely some questions at OL. I have no idea what's going on there but hopefully they figure it out by Auburn.
*I'm probably not as worried about RB as I should be becuase I think Gronk will have a solid year and the receivers will take a lot of the pressure off whoever starts. I really want Warmack to carry the ball this year because he definitely appears to be the most talented, but I just think Snyder redshirts him we will have a "servicable" running back by committee with Judah and Gronk getting a handful of carries a game to complement Leverett and Jones.
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is there any reason to believe that waters and lockett will stay healthy the entire season? i don't think there is.
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is there any reason to believe that waters and lockett will stay healthy the entire season? i don't think there is.
Does Jake of a history of being hurt or something? :confused:
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let me guess, officer daris worked the crue concert in wichita last weekend and is still tired from lack of sleep :lol:
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let me guess, officer daris worked the crue concert in wichita last weekend and is still tired from lack of sleep :lol:
:jblein:
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is there any reason to believe that waters and lockett will stay healthy the entire season? i don't think there is.
Does Jake of a history of being hurt or something? :confused:
lockett does and i can't remember the last time a kstate qb who played the entire season, did it without injury.
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is there any reason to believe that waters and lockett will stay healthy the entire season? i don't think there is.
Does Jake of a history of being hurt or something? :confused:
lockett does and i can't remember the last time a kstate qb who played the entire season, did it without injury.
We don't go into Sketti-brained mode with Jake in the lineup.
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is there any reason to believe that waters and lockett will stay healthy the entire season? i don't think there is.
Does Jake of a history of being hurt or something? :confused:
lockett does and i can't remember the last time a kstate qb who played the entire season, did it without injury.
We don't go into Sketti-brained mode with Jake in the lineup.
Jake might be forced into sketti-brain situations if our RBs don't produce. :ohno:
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I like the option of giving gronk the ball on hand offs 5ish times a game to take some pounding off waters.
Waters challenges throwing short vs excelling throwing it long a product of him not being tall enough?
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i say motion out Waters, direct snap to Gronk, and just let him gronk out all over the place.
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i say motion out Waters, direct snap to Gronk, and just let him gronk out all over the place.
Would that be called the WildGronk formation or is that just too redundant?
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Beast formation
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This year's team will emulate the 2009 Super Bowl winning Saints. Waters/Lockett=Brees/Colston, serviceable O-line, RB by committee with a wildcard player who works into different schemes (Judah=Reggie Bush). A strong, but not highly ranked defense with a good pass rush, also creates turnovers and capitalizes on them. Lastly, a master schemer standing on the sidelines.
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is there any reason to believe that waters and lockett will stay healthy the entire season? i don't think there is.
Does Jake of a history of being hurt or something? :confused:
lockett does and i can't remember the last time a kstate qb who played the entire season, did it without injury.
Chad May (Jake Waters comparo)?
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is there any reason to believe that waters and lockett will stay healthy the entire season? i don't think there is.
Does Jake of a history of being hurt or something? :confused:
lockett does and i can't remember the last time a kstate qb who played the entire season, did it without injury.
Chad May (Jake Waters comparo)?
yeah and you seriously have to probably go back that far. i mean that's 20 years, folks.
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Not scurred.
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is there any reason to believe that waters and lockett will stay healthy the entire season? i don't think there is.
Does Jake of a history of being hurt or something? :confused:
lockett does and i can't remember the last time a kstate qb who played the entire season, did it without injury.
Chad May (Jake Waters comparo)?
yeah and you seriously have to probably go back that far. i mean that's 20 years, folks.
Did CCQ ever get injured? Methinks not.
What about Klein '11?
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I'll tell you guy who took a hit like a champ. Allen rough ridin' Evridge. That guy got murdered every game with that crap line. :ROFL:
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is there any reason to believe that waters and lockett will stay healthy the entire season? i don't think there is.
Does Jake of a history of being hurt or something? :confused:
lockett does and i can't remember the last time a kstate qb who played the entire season, did it without injury.
Chad May (Jake Waters comparo)?
yeah and you seriously have to probably go back that far. i mean that's 20 years, folks.
Did CCQ ever get injured? Methinks not.
What about Klein '11?
He did play and start every game. Bloodied elbows and all. Can't think of a time he wasn't on the field unless we were up big (which outside of KU and Kent State we were not).
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is there any reason to believe that waters and lockett will stay healthy the entire season? i don't think there is.
Does Jake of a history of being hurt or something? :confused:
lockett does and i can't remember the last time a kstate qb who played the entire season, did it without injury.
Chad May (Jake Waters comparo)?
yeah and you seriously have to probably go back that far. i mean that's 20 years, folks.
Did CCQ ever get injured? Methinks not.
What about Klein '11?
well youthinks wrong. klein started and played the texas game the ccq year because of ccq being hurt. also, klein was rough ridin' decimated the last third of the '11 season. that's pretty well documented i think.
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We're not counting Freemaw I assume because it was with the Love Doctor?
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we are going to win everything and kick ass
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Serious question? Will this fan base/ blog back Waters heisman run?
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ben ji's thoughts
-I see warmack having a TLBL like impact his freshman year. He wont start on day one but he will be a "Big Play" guy by the end of the year.
- Jake is going to Chad May all over the Big 12's face this year.
- Mueller/Clinks/Britz/Irrelevant all rushing the QB? Domination Station. CHOO CHOO
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- Nick Marshall takes a leave of absence to deal with his Dope Addiction and the Cats crush Auburn 28-10.
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Serious question? Will this fan base/ blog back Waters heisman run?
oh jfc don't be an idiot wacky of course we would
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Serious question? Will this fan base/ blog back Waters heisman run?
oh jfc don't be an idiot wacky of course we would
Kinda douchey tho. I mean, definitely from this blog. :dunno:
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Serious question? Will this fan base/ blog back Waters heisman run?
You bet your ass it will.
I'm planning on starting a thread where I solicit designs for "Lockett/Waters For Heisman" yard signs modeled after all those crappy political signs popping up.
Thinking along the lines "Jake Waters 4 Heisman" "A Rocket Arm You Can Trust"
"Tiny Lil Baby Lockett" "Your in good hands"
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Serious question? Will this fan base/ blog back Waters heisman run?
You bet your ass it will.
I'm planning on starting a thread where I solicit designs for "Lockett/Waters For Heisman" yard signs modeled after all those crappy political signs popping up.
Thinking along the lines "Jake Waters 4 Heisman" "A Rocket Arm You Can Trust"
"Tiny Lil Baby Lockett" "Your in good hands"
:thumbs:
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Serious question? Will this fan base/ blog back Waters heisman run?
oh jfc don't be an idiot wacky of course we would
Kinda douchey tho. I mean, definitely from this blog. :dunno:
Also, from day 1, clams and I were the only one to back this kid. So, I gotta throw haymakers while I can.
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is there any reason to believe that waters and lockett will stay healthy the entire season? i don't think there is.
Does Jake of a history of being hurt or something? :confused:
lockett does and i can't remember the last time a kstate qb who played the entire season, did it without injury.
Chad May (Jake Waters comparo)?
yeah and you seriously have to probably go back that far. i mean that's 20 years, folks.
Did CCQ ever get injured? Methinks not.
What about Klein '11?
well youthinks wrong. klein started and played the texas game the ccq year because of ccq being hurt. also, klein was rough ridin' decimated the last third of the '11 season. that's pretty well documented i think.
I disagree.
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Really sucks for all of us that we have to suffer through a season of this FP Iowa wannabe losing us games...sad, really
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Yeah, cop daris is wrong. Lhcbs schemed the eff out of Texas on that game. He knew he could run on them. Ccq was fine.
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ben ji's thoughts
-I see warmack having a TLBL like impact his freshman year. He wont start on day one but he will be a "Big Play" guy by the end of the year.
- Jake is going to Chad May all over the Big 12's face this year.
- Mueller/Clinks/Britz/Irrelevant all rushing the QB? Domination Station. CHOO CHOO
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- Nick Marshall takes a leave of absence to deal with his Dope Addiction and the Cats crush Auburn 28-10.
Love the warmack breakdown. :thumbsup:
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Yeah, cop daris is wrong. Lhcbs schemed the eff out of Texas on that game. He knew he could run on them. Ccq was fine.
"In that particular game, the good fortune was the fact we ended up playing a different style of quarterback, and one that they had probably not prepared for," Snyder said. "Collin was in the ballgame because Carson Coffman was injured. We were more geared toward quarterback run game, and I’m sure they probably hadn’t prepared well for that, so that’s my guess."
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/tag/_/name/carson-coffman
Coffman has been slowed by an ankle injury, but the more experienced, less mobile passer has remained the starter until last week.
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/21271/k-state-goes-back-to-carson-coffman
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Yeah, cop daris is wrong. Lhcbs schemed the eff out of Texas on that game. He knew he could run on them. Ccq was fine.
"In that particular game, the good fortune was the fact we ended up playing a different style of quarterback, and one that they had probably not prepared for," Snyder said. "Collin was in the ballgame because Carson Coffman was injured. We were more geared toward quarterback run game, and I’m sure they probably hadn’t prepared well for that, so that’s my guess."
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/tag/_/name/carson-coffman
After all these years, daris is still getting schemed by Snyder quotes. :D
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The only injury Coffman had at that time was his pride.
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Serious question? Will this fan base/ blog back Waters heisman run?
oh jfc don't be an idiot wacky of course we would
Kinda douchey tho. I mean, definitely from this blog. :dunno:
Also, from day 1, clams and I were the only one to back this kid. So, I gotta throw haymakers while I can.
you do understand what your own question was right? I'm fairly certain any kstate player would get support in a heisman campaign
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I do, but this site hated Travis Tannahill as much as waters, so I'm uncertain of the reaction.
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I do, but this site hated Travis Tannahill as much as waters, so I'm uncertain of the reaction.
well as far as I know waters isn't a racist piece of crap. So yeah we will back waters, still think sams is a stud but you win some you lose some
Don't forget about #1cat wacky
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we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one, ofc.
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we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one, ofc.
fair enough, dlew12. fair enough.
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I think the fact that Snyder said the Coffman was hurt is evidence enough that he wasn't.
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We're not counting Freemaw I assume because it was with the Love Doctor?
Also, Beasley and Bishop? I don't remember them being injured but that what a long time ago.
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We're not counting Freemaw I assume because it was with the Love Doctor?
Also, Beasley and Bishop? I don't remember them being injured but that what a long time ago.
Beasley got dinged up pretty good before the Nebraska game in 1999, and had a rough day.
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Is it still possible to have McDaniel replacing Schellenberg or whatever the hell his name is
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We're not counting Freemaw I assume because it was with the Love Doctor?
Also, Beasley and Bishop? I don't remember them being injured but that what a long time ago.
Beasley got dinged up pretty good before the Nebraska game in 1999, and had a rough day.
Yep. I was a student at that time. Maybe I somehow blocked it mentally.
http://cjonline.com/stories/111499/cat_ksubeasley.shtml
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I think the fact that Snyder said the Coffman was hurt is evidence enough that he wasn't.
I love all the extra stuff that gets attributed to Snyder. It's so adorable and K-State0
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Guys,
I don't think I can handle another season where baylor steals our undefeated thunder.
2012 was so crushing for me :(
Someone please calm my fears that we will be branch davidian aggie if we roll in 11-0
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i feel like most of the football posters are way more boring than the basketball posters (if you are a :combofan: this post does not concern you)
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i feel like most of the football posters are way more boring than the basketball posters (if you are a :combofan: this post does not concern you)
combofan and other sports posters are the best.
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Yeah, cop daris is wrong. Lhcbs schemed the eff out of Texas on that game. He knew he could run on them. Ccq was fine.
Also, it was right after Coffman bro committed to Mizzou, so Bill was sticking it to his family.
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this thread went from awesome to snooze central USA in less than a page.
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Yeah, the first five pages really got me excited and then it just died. :cry:
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Our special teams are going to be special this year, right? :gocho:
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This guy rates K-State's QB situation as #30 in college football
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000364816/article/ranking-every-fbs-qb-situation-nos-2130 (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000364816/article/ranking-every-fbs-qb-situation-nos-2130)
From this article, I saw that KSU was 2nd in the BigXII at QB. Baylor is the first BigXII name with Petty, then next is KSU with Waters. After us follows TTU, OU, and OSU. NICE. :fatty:
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Our special teams are going to be special this year, right? :gocho:
I don't think punting and kick coverage could get much worse than last year. I'm definitely expecting improvements there. Cantele and Lockett should be beasts though.
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Man, i'm gonna have to swing so much overtime to get off for 2 bowl games this year.
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Our special teams are going to be special this year, right? :gocho:
I don't think punting and kick coverage could get much worse than last year. I'm definitely expecting improvements there. Cantele and Lockett should be beasts though.
We lost so many special team players 2 years ago. I believe most of our players are returning this year. Should be experienced.
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Our special teams are going to be special this year, right? :gocho:
I don't think punting and kick coverage could get much worse than last year. I'm definitely expecting improvements there. Cantele and Lockett should be beasts though.
We lost so many special team players 2 years ago. I believe most of our players are returning this year. Should be experienced.
Is that hard hitting stud, Hiebert, back?
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Man, i'm gonna have to swing so much overtime to get off for 2 bowl games this year.
I'll prolly just relax and have a few suds for the first gave vs the #4 seeded team and go to the second.