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Title: Seff is a monster
Post by: Pete on April 07, 2010, 08:49:18 PM
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"I was a little surprised he didn't touch on (his future plans)," Self said. "But he's excited about next year. I think he thought that this would just be a day to talk about X. And things can always change. But he's certainly excited about what's going on with our program.

Kid rough ridin' announces for the draft, and Bill is caught up with bitching about how Xavier didn't pimp "the program."  JFC Bill.   :facepalm:  Christ, the quote is from the Lawrence Journal World....just imagine how bad it was before the massaged it.   :opcat:

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/apr/07/xavier-henry-press-conference-set-3-pm/
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Cire on April 07, 2010, 08:50:58 PM
what an ass.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: KSUTOMMY on April 07, 2010, 09:28:56 PM
uk - nothing but the Biggest and Best in Coaching... well, the best anyway.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: wetwillie on April 07, 2010, 09:49:07 PM
Seff would love nothing more than to see these kids play 4 years and tear their ACL to win the National Championship game for him so he can toss them away like old rags.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: OregonSmock on April 07, 2010, 10:45:20 PM
He's talking about CJ Henry, guys.


From the exact same article:

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/apr/07/xavier-henry-press-conference-set-3-pm/ (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/apr/07/xavier-henry-press-conference-set-3-pm/)


When asked while seated at a table with Xavier and KU coach Bill Self, Xavier's brother, C.J., declined to talk about his future plans at KU.

After the news conference, however, Self indicated that he believed C.J. would return for his sophomore season.

"I was a little surprised he didn't touch on (his future plans)," Self said. "But he's excited about next year. I think he thought that this would just be a day to talk about X. And things can always change. But he's certainly excited about what's going on with our program.

"We've talked a lot. He's out there busting his butt, trying to get 100-percent healthy and get his rhythm so we can see where he stands. It's hard for him right now to see exactly where he stands in relationship to everybody else because we haven't seem him be 100-percent healthy over an extended period of time. He's a talent, I've said all along. He's a talent. He just needs to have a good spring and good summer to get back healthy and to get his rhythm back."




 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 07, 2010, 10:51:42 PM
The fact that Seff fells the need to act "surprised" that the other Henry didn't blather on and on about next year still tells us a lot about how much affirmation and validation Seff must require. 
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 07, 2010, 11:03:56 PM
The fact that Seff fells the need to act "surprised" that the other Henry didn't blather on and on about next year still tells us a lot about how much affirmation and validation Seff must require. 


yeah. pete just mistyped. meant one, said the other. doesn't change the fact that self seems like a horrible human being.

"look at me. talk about me. worship me..." - bill self
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 07, 2010, 11:06:31 PM
yeah, i'm gonna have to side with Pete on this one. Sorry Beams...
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: ChiCat on April 07, 2010, 11:10:04 PM
He's talking about CJ Henry, guys.


From the exact same article:

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/apr/07/xavier-henry-press-conference-set-3-pm/ (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/apr/07/xavier-henry-press-conference-set-3-pm/)


When asked while seated at a table with Xavier and KU coach Bill Self, Xavier's brother, C.J., declined to talk about his future plans at KU.

After the news conference, however, Self indicated that he believed C.J. would return for his sophomore season.

"I was a little surprised he didn't touch on (his future plans)," Self said. "But he's excited about next year. I think he thought that this would just be a day to talk about X. And things can always change. But he's certainly excited about what's going on with our program.

"We've talked a lot. He's out there busting his butt, trying to get 100-percent healthy and get his rhythm so we can see where he stands. It's hard for him right now to see exactly where he stands in relationship to everybody else because we haven't seem him be 100-percent healthy over an extended period of time. He's a talent, I've said all along. He's a talent. He just needs to have a good spring and good summer to get back healthy and to get his rhythm back."




 :rolleyes:


So CJ should be all about the program and not be happy for his brother?  It was X's day, Self is just being a huge ass.  What else is new?

Self will send him packing before the beginning of the next season. Really a sad way to run a program.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: KSUTOMMY on April 07, 2010, 11:13:45 PM
OH YEAH? Well ku has more NC than KSU and one less than Dook over 50 yrs and that means that ku is gooder, so there. And, and, and bill self is the greatest coach he knows.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Pett on April 08, 2010, 12:37:54 PM
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I also met Bill Self at Final Four and I was definitely not impressed with him. He seemed a little arrogant to me.

^ A professional writer at the Final Four. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Havs on April 08, 2010, 01:27:25 PM
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I also met Bill Self at Final Four and I was definitely not impressed with him. He seemed a little arrogant to me.

^ A professional writer at the Final Four. :rolleyes:

I met him at a high school basketball game and he was actually pretty gracious and respectful to everyone. No cockiness or arrogance from what I saw. I would have expected that considering the fact that he was sitting next to Billy Donnovan and two other D1 college coaches from Iowa who I care to not name at this point.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: FHSU92 on April 08, 2010, 02:01:36 PM
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I also met Bill Self at Final Four and I was definitely not impressed with him. He seemed a little arrogant to me.

^ A professional writer at the Final Four. :rolleyes:

I met him at a high school basketball game and he was actually pretty gracious and respectful to everyone. No cockiness or arrogance from what I saw. I would have expected that considering the fact that he was sitting next to Billy Donnovan and two other D1 college coaches from Iowa who I care to not name at this point.

Saw him at the KSU baseball game in Lowrents last yr, he refused to autograph some kids' stuff.  He's pretty much focused on just doing what's best for him.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: steve dave on April 08, 2010, 02:12:35 PM
Saw Self at a Walmart shopping for an AC Delco battery for his boat.  When a little kid walked by him to get to the fishing section to buy a fishing pole with snoopy on it (the bobber is woodstock) Self shoved him up against the AC Delco brand batteries and told him never to walk between him and what he's focused on.  We're talking about a kid who's about 7 years old here.  Self then pissed his pants and yelled at a WalMart employee to come clean it up while he ate some Doritos he didn't even pay for. 
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 08, 2010, 02:25:39 PM
Saw Self at a Walmart shopping for an AC Delco battery for his boat.  When a little kid walked by him to get to the fishing section to buy a fishing pole with snoopy on it (the bobber is woodstock) Self shoved him up against the AC Delco brand batteries and told him never to walk between him and what he's focused on.  We're talking about a kid who's about 7 years old here.  Self then pissed his pants and yelled at a WalMart employee to come clean it up while he ate some Doritos he didn't even pay for. 

that's a funny (made up) story and all but on a serious note, how in the world does selff's wife put up with all of his drinking and carousing? do they have an "open" relationship? it's times like this that i really appreciate coach martin and his down to earth wife, family and christian values. :twocents:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: OregonSmock on April 08, 2010, 02:36:27 PM
At least learn how to f*cking read before you start a thread like this.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: OregonSmock on April 08, 2010, 02:48:28 PM
CJ Henry is coming back next year:

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/apr/08/cj-henry-expected-back-ku/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/apr/08/cj-henry-expected-back-ku/)
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: steve dave on April 08, 2010, 02:57:55 PM
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There’s a rumor on the Internet that Self has decided to remove freshman guard Elijah Johnson from the basketball team, possibly for disciplinary reasons.

 :surprised:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Scary Smart on April 08, 2010, 06:52:32 PM
CJ Henry is coming back next year:

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/apr/08/cj-henry-expected-back-ku/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/apr/08/cj-henry-expected-back-ku/)

 :lol:

What a waste of a scholarship.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: OregonSmock on April 08, 2010, 07:11:57 PM
CJ Henry is coming back next year:

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/apr/08/cj-henry-expected-back-ku/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/apr/08/cj-henry-expected-back-ku/)

 :lol:

What a waste of a scholarship.




CJ isn't on scholarship.




 :dunno:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 08, 2010, 09:26:11 PM
CJ Henry is coming back next year:

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/apr/08/cj-henry-expected-back-ku/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/apr/08/cj-henry-expected-back-ku/)

 :lol:

What a waste of a scholarship.

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Scary Smart on April 09, 2010, 12:21:19 AM
Sorry bros, guess I missed the first sentence of that article. I guess I just assumed that they're had to be some sort of financial incentive for a washed-up minor league baseball player to want to remain on KU's roster next season.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: FHSU92 on April 09, 2010, 05:52:16 AM
Sorry bros, guess I missed the first sentence of that article. I guess I just assumed that they're had to be some sort of financial incentive for a washed-up minor league baseball player to want to remain on KU's roster next season.

It's good that CJ's coming back since Teabag chose fball -- interesting tho that no tears where shed by the white guys leaving early, hmmmm.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: deputy dawg on April 09, 2010, 01:45:50 PM
CJ Henry is coming back next year:

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/apr/08/cj-henry-expected-back-ku/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/apr/08/cj-henry-expected-back-ku/)

 :lol:

What a waste of a scholarship.




CJ isn't on scholarship.




 :dunno:

Dammit!  Did Doug Compton "hire" his family too?
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: OregonSmock on April 10, 2010, 05:21:55 PM
CJ Henry is coming back next year:

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/apr/08/cj-henry-expected-back-ku/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/apr/08/cj-henry-expected-back-ku/)

 :lol:

What a waste of a scholarship.




CJ isn't on scholarship.




 :dunno:

Dammit!  Did Doug Compton "hire" his family too?



 :facepalm:




The guy was a first round draft pick for the New York Yankees.


Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 10, 2010, 10:40:26 PM
Hey in case you guys didn't know . . . the guy was a first round draft pick for the NY Yankees. 
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 10, 2010, 11:26:03 PM
Hey in case you guys didn't know . . . the guy was a first round draft pick for the NY Yankees. 

And a huge flop for the yankees.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: FHSU92 on April 11, 2010, 09:15:44 AM
Hey in case you guys didn't know . . . the guy was a first round draft pick for the NY Yankees. 

pretty obvious it's better to walk-on for the Hawks than get paid to play for the stripes...you guys just don't get it.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 11, 2010, 03:55:02 PM
Rumblings that CJ/Carl/X have spent all that signing bonus.....and then quite a bit more on top of that.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Pett on April 11, 2010, 04:37:45 PM
CJ Henry is coming back next year:

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/apr/08/cj-henry-expected-back-ku/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/apr/08/cj-henry-expected-back-ku/)

Congrats on the walk-on decided to stay in Lawrence. Big news.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: ednksu on February 26, 2013, 11:31:27 AM
(http://www.810whb.com/includes/espn_promoreel/media/large-20130226001914.jpg)
hopefully the NCAA does what is needed
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: WackyCat08 on February 26, 2013, 11:53:34 AM
 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: GoodForAnother on February 26, 2013, 11:55:44 AM
it might be time to get the state involved.  it's obvious the lawrence police don't have any interest in stopping this monster.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: DeoKat on February 26, 2013, 11:58:47 AM
Saw Self at a Walmart shopping for an AC Delco battery for his boat.  When a little kid walked by him to get to the fishing section to buy a fishing pole with snoopy on it (the bobber is woodstock) Self shoved him up against the AC Delco brand batteries and told him never to walk between him and what he's focused on.  We're talking about a kid who's about 7 years old here.  Self then pissed his pants and yelled at a WalMart employee to come clean it up while he ate some Doritos he didn't even pay for. 

that's a funny (made up) story and all but on a serious note, how in the world does selff's wife put up with all of his drinking and carousing? do they have an "open" relationship? it's times like this that i really appreciate coach martin and his down to earth wife, family and christian values. :twocents:

It's like RD is prophetic or something  :dunno:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 26, 2013, 12:31:41 PM
Saw Self at a Walmart shopping for an AC Delco battery for his boat.  When a little kid walked by him to get to the fishing section to buy a fishing pole with snoopy on it (the bobber is woodstock) Self shoved him up against the AC Delco brand batteries and told him never to walk between him and what he's focused on.  We're talking about a kid who's about 7 years old here.  Self then pissed his pants and yelled at a WalMart employee to come clean it up while he ate some Doritos he didn't even pay for.

I bet Self went all the way to Oklahoma to register his boat so he wouldn't have to pay taxes on it. What an bad person.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: deputy dawg on February 26, 2013, 06:58:25 PM
(http://www.810whb.com/includes/espn_promoreel/media/large-20130226001914.jpg)
hopefully the NCAA does what is needed

Best confirmed sighting of Seff's toupee line that I've ever seen.  Good job ednksu.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 27, 2014, 12:48:08 PM
Apparently Bill said today in the weekly Big XII teleconference that he thinks the graduate transfer rule is stupid, and those kids should also have to sit out a year. It's apparently not enough to swindle kids out of good money in the NBA, just so he can exploit them for the betterment of KU, now he wants hardworking kids with degrees to delay their wage-earning years so that he and his rich white cronies can lord their wealth and status over these kids for even longer. What an absolute monster.

P.S. Also said that post play is still too rough in the Big XII...ever heard of Joel Embiid, Bill?
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: kso_FAN on January 27, 2014, 12:51:41 PM
Apparently Bill said today in the weekly Big XII teleconference that he thinks the graduate transfer rule is stupid, and those kids should also have to sit out a year.

Shot at Hoi.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 27, 2014, 12:58:28 PM
Apparently Bill said today in the weekly Big XII teleconference that he thinks the graduate transfer rule is stupid, and those kids should also have to sit out a year.

Shot at Hoi.

Definitely. Tarik Black tho. What a hypocrite.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Spracne on January 27, 2014, 01:14:54 PM
Apparently Bill said today in the weekly Big XII teleconference that he thinks the graduate transfer rule is stupid, and those kids should also have to sit out a year.

Shot at Hoi.

Definitely. Tarik Black tho. What a hypocrite.

This isn't the first time Self has made this remark.  It's not a shot at Fred.  It's a knock against the glorified free agency that the rule creates.  Self is also against the current OAD rules.  He thinks kids should either go straight to the NBA or stay 2/3 years.  His personal opinions don't preclude him from operating in the environment that currently exists, though.  Not hypocritical. 
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Pete on January 27, 2014, 01:25:30 PM

His personal opinions don't preclude him from operating in the environment that currently exists, though.  Not hypocritical.

...said the tough, but caring, slave master as he reluctantly whipped the slave.  And, the Nazi gas chamber operator, and the U.S. Army quartermaster delivering pox ridden blankets to the Indians, etc.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 27, 2014, 01:28:22 PM
Apparently Bill said today in the weekly Big XII teleconference that he thinks the graduate transfer rule is stupid, and those kids should also have to sit out a year.

Shot at Hoi.

Definitely. Tarik Black tho. What a hypocrite.

This isn't the first time Self has made this remark.  It's not a shot at Fred.  It's a knock against the glorified free agency that the rule creates.  Self is also against the current OAD rules.  He thinks kids should either go straight to the NBA or stay 2/3 years.  His personal opinions don't preclude him from operating in the environment that currently exists, though.  Not hypocritical.

The guy is just an absolute slime ball. I feel sorry for you if you can't see it.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Spracne on January 27, 2014, 01:29:24 PM

His personal opinions don't preclude him from operating in the environment that currently exists, though.  Not hypocritical.

...said the tough, but caring, slave master as he reluctantly whipped the slave.  And, the Nazi gas chamber operator, and the U.S. Army quartermaster delivering pox ridden blankets to the Indians, etc.

Then you agree with Self on the issues? Got it.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Pete on January 27, 2014, 01:33:36 PM


His personal opinions don't preclude him from operating in the environment that currently exists, though.  Not hypocritical.

...said the tough, but caring, slave master as he reluctantly whipped the slave.  And, the Nazi gas chamber operator, and the U.S. Army quartermaster delivering pox ridden blankets to the Indians, etc.

Then you agree with Self on the issues? Got it.

:jerkoff:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 27, 2014, 06:24:22 PM
Spracne Goebels

Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 27, 2014, 06:29:34 PM
Why should you have to choose between the NBA and 2/3 years of college?

Seems like you should be able to go pro whenever the eff you want.  Of course Bill's statements are completely self serving, I don't get why phogtards believe he is being altruistic.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Spracne on January 27, 2014, 06:47:42 PM
Why should you have to choose between the NBA and 2/3 years of college?

Seems like you should be able to go pro whenever the eff you want.  Of course Bill's statements are completely self serving, I don't get why phogtards believe he is being altruistic.

I agree with you. However, the professional organization these young scholars want to join - which operates as a virtual monopoly - disagrees.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Spracne on January 28, 2014, 03:31:58 PM
Self giving Brannen Greene advice on how to deal with snitches...
(http://worldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/croppedphotos/2014/01/28/ku_bkc_tcu_20CROP_r400x180.jpg?28afa2c5df172fbc371aef66fc0ef2425cfc1a75)
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Cire on January 29, 2014, 06:15:07 AM
That guy is one of the ugliest people I've ever seen
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: kso_FAN on January 29, 2014, 07:58:35 AM
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: WackyCat08 on March 02, 2014, 05:59:22 PM
Monster indeed!

http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/02/4859779/self-acts-like-party-pooper-after.html
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: SPE_khat on March 02, 2014, 06:04:33 PM
Monster indeed!

http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/02/4859779/self-acts-like-party-pooper-after.html

What an awesome article. Finally someone at the Star with the balls to say something negative about KU.. so refreshing.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: WackyCat08 on March 02, 2014, 06:11:26 PM
The comments are awesome!
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: SPE_khat on March 02, 2014, 06:38:16 PM
The comments are awesome!


The pitchforks have come out blazing, they want his head.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Johnny Thunderbone on March 02, 2014, 06:48:03 PM
Monster indeed!

http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/02/4859779/self-acts-like-party-pooper-after.html

This article doesn't even begin to describe how much of a "spoilsport" he was last night.  :peek:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Trim on March 02, 2014, 06:51:13 PM
Monster indeed!

http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/02/4859779/self-acts-like-party-pooper-after.html

This article doesn't even begin to describe how much of a "spoilsport" he was last night.  :peek:

:emawkid:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2014, 07:05:06 PM
Yael!
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 02, 2014, 07:21:29 PM
 They backed into the title when we won, I don't blame Bad Bill one bit
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: EMAWzified on March 02, 2014, 07:48:02 PM
Cities like Lexington, Columbus, Durham don't get into the negative writing about their local basketball programs....
they should be kissing Self's and Kansas basketballs ass like no tomorrow
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 03, 2014, 08:55:52 AM
Pretty crazy the way they keep using Embiid injuries as excuses for losses but forcing Joel back out there.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Hubbs on March 03, 2014, 12:42:20 PM
"Worst. Column. Ever.

I for one love this move by HCBS. It is called setting higher expectations and not settling for the bare minimum. For them to celebrate after backing their way to a Big12 title would have been bush-league - something K-State would have done. Don't be such a pansy"

Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: CNS on March 03, 2014, 12:54:33 PM
"Worst. Column. Ever.

I for one love this move by HCBS. It is called setting higher expectations and not settling for the bare minimum. For them to celebrate after backing their way to a Big12 title would have been bush-league - something K-State would have done. Don't be such a pansy"

The fact that they don't understand how this whole "best record" thing works sadly doesn't surprise me.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: CNS on March 12, 2014, 04:22:03 PM
Bill evidently got a GoPro cam and strapped it on as he threatened Embiid.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiiOz2cIgAANvdg.jpg)
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: The Big Train on March 12, 2014, 04:42:38 PM
Bill evidently got a GoPro cam and strapped it on as he threatened Embiid.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiiOz2cIgAANvdg.jpg)

Bill: "Are you going to the NBA?"

JoJo: "Well I'm gonna be a top pick and it's probably whats best for my fami.."

Bill: "NO YOU rough ridin' WON'T, DON'T YOU KNOW DR. RCB SAID YOU ARE PARALYZED!?!?"

JoJo: "Whoa.....I'm coming back"
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Spracne on March 12, 2014, 04:44:51 PM
Joe Davis is a dumbass  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 17, 2015, 10:46:36 AM
Come on down Cliff, you are the next player to be held back!  Good luck living your dreams
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: 'taterblast on February 17, 2015, 10:57:03 AM

Favorited by: @HumbleKid_2 (Cliff Alexander)
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 17, 2015, 11:01:33 AM
Self and KU fans are monsters.   :cry:  Perry Ellis doesn't deserve this criticism.  19 pts and 5 Reb...yet getting attacked by his fans.  KU wouldn't even be in that game without Perry. 
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: CNS on February 17, 2015, 11:03:28 AM
KU's program is a monster.  A monster than feeds off the souls, hopes, and dreams of young men.  Lets just hope Cliff can rise above despite the hanger ons and those that mean him harm.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 17, 2015, 11:20:18 AM
Rustin Dodd did a nice job of trashing Cliff Alexander's skills and Bukaty cleaned up trashing his work ethic.  Pretty solid take down this morning.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 17, 2015, 12:06:36 PM
Poor Perry. 

One of my lil ku buddies this morning, "6-9, dunk the rough ridin ball you (other not nice things)"

Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 17, 2015, 12:07:17 PM
Rustin Dodd did a nice job of trashing Cliff Alexander's skills and Bukaty cleaned up trashing his work ethic.  Pretty solid take down this morning.

Lol, so he doesn't have a jumper like 90% of other big 12 bigs.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: 'taterblast on February 17, 2015, 12:08:44 PM
Invalid Tweet ID
 :frown:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: 'taterblast on February 17, 2015, 12:09:49 PM

 :frown:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: 'taterblast on February 17, 2015, 12:11:08 PM

Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 17, 2015, 12:12:11 PM
Oh my word.

I am getting a little  :lol: over their whining about the refs.   My guy Perry does something a lot, and that's essentially clear out for the guards, I  mean, spaghetti monster bless that rough rider, but he's constantly moving defenders out to clear room for guard drives. 
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Post by: Shooter Jones on February 17, 2015, 12:37:58 PM
Invalid Tweet ID
 :frown:

omg.
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Post by: uncle clean jeans on February 17, 2015, 12:45:59 PM
Invalid Tweet ID
 :frown:

omg.
@KanelJHawk has about the most adorable, lol pinned tweet I've ever read
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Post by: Trim on February 17, 2015, 01:11:16 PM
Invalid Tweet ID
 :frown:

omg.
@KanelJHawk has about the most adorable, lol pinned tweet I've ever read

Did that end up making the album?
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Post by: Trim on February 17, 2015, 01:15:14 PM
Kanel isn't good at tweeting #TheBachelor.

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Post by: kslim on February 17, 2015, 01:25:47 PM
Invalid Tweet ID
 :frown:

omg.
@KanelJHawk has about the most adorable, lol pinned tweet I've ever read
HollowMoon @KanelJHawk  ·  May 1

@foofighters bruises accuses who it wants to pay, belying liars fools and hate, since when did this mean it's all okay. feel free to use
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: ChiCat on March 23, 2015, 10:36:53 AM
Per ESPN:
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Kansas isn’t going to change all that much from this season to next. With Selden and Cliff Alexander no longer projected as lottery picks or even first-round picks, both could return to Lawrence.

Self keeps on crushing
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: slobber on March 23, 2015, 11:07:55 AM
Do the KU fans ever give Self credit for destroying the dreams of OADers? Seems they overlook this part of his coaching ability.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on March 23, 2015, 11:49:18 AM
Related, why was perry playing in the conference tournament when he was obviously still injured? Those games were less than meaningless for ku
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: pissclams on March 23, 2015, 11:51:23 AM
why would cliff alexander return to lawrentucky?
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: wetwillie on March 23, 2015, 11:51:38 AM
kelly made it out relatively unscathed.  perry will be hobbled by the time he graduates and will have to work in insurance.   
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2015, 12:11:21 PM
No way cliff is back.  I bet he is ineligible for good.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: #LIFE on April 10, 2015, 12:25:56 PM


Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: deputy dawg on June 01, 2015, 04:28:02 PM
why would cliff alexander return to lawrentucky?

Add Alexander to list of players whose career was destroyed by the Massa:
http://cjonline.com/blog-post/jesse-newell/2015-06-01/cliff-alexander-i-got-dealt-bad-deck-cards-when-i-was-kansas
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Post by: 'taterblast on June 01, 2015, 09:07:02 PM
poor Cliff :frown: hawk fans are being pretty mean to him
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: The Big Train on June 01, 2015, 09:18:01 PM
it's almost like a broken record, someone with all the talent in the world goes to KU and the culture and coach just chews them up and spits them back out. i just hope future recruits recognize the toxicity of that program and don't make the same decision that poor cliff made
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Post by: Brock Landers on June 02, 2015, 10:36:46 AM
why would cliff alexander return to lawrentucky?

Add Alexander to list of players whose career was destroyed by the Massa:
http://cjonline.com/blog-post/jesse-newell/2015-06-01/cliff-alexander-i-got-dealt-bad-deck-cards-when-i-was-kansas


Poor guy sounds beat down and nearly depressed in that interview.  Like, his spirit has been broken because he used to be good at basketball but isn't anymore.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 02, 2015, 01:41:34 PM
it's almost like a broken record, someone with all the talent in the world goes to KU and the culture and coach just chews them up and spits them back out and KU fans then call player dumb and tell everyone he sucks and also get borderline racisty. i just hope future recruits recognize the toxicity of that program and don't make the same decision that poor cliff made
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: ChiCat on June 03, 2015, 10:22:53 AM
I appreciate that Cliff brought his talents to the state of Kansas and we could watch a kid play his heart out every night, even if it was for an opposing team.  Best of luck with your professional basketball future Cliff.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on June 03, 2015, 08:34:03 PM
I appreciate that Cliff brought his talents to the state of Kansas and we could watch a kid play his heart out every night, even if it was for an opposing team.  Best of luck with your professional basketball future Cliff.

posts like this make me proud to be a wildcat fan.  classiest damn fans in the world if you ask me.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: #LIFE on June 24, 2015, 09:31:32 AM
http://www.si.com/nba/2015/06/23/nba-draft-player-rankings-big-board-karl-anthony-towns-jahlil-okafor?page=3&devicetype=default (http://www.si.com/nba/2015/06/23/nba-draft-player-rankings-big-board-karl-anthony-towns-jahlil-okafor?page=3&devicetype=default)

35. Cliff Alexander — 6'9" 239 pounds
Forward | Freshman | Kansas

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But despite a year largely wasted, this is still the same player who would have been a lottery pick out of high school.

 :frown:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: CNS on June 24, 2015, 09:41:47 AM
This has gotta be Bill's fav time of year.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: The Big Train on June 25, 2015, 11:04:33 PM
 :frown:

Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Spracne on June 25, 2015, 11:13:34 PM
:frown:

Very sad to see a young man let down so much by his folks.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: The Big Train on June 25, 2015, 11:22:11 PM
cliff goes from being a guaranteed top 10 pick out of high school, to going undrafted after a year at KU. this has to rank as one of seff's top personal achievements.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: SdK on June 25, 2015, 11:24:18 PM
Poor guy. He can always finish his degree though.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Spracne on June 25, 2015, 11:32:48 PM
cliff goes from being a guaranteed top 10 pick out of high school, to going undrafted after a year at KU. this has to rank as one of seff's top personal achievements.

Yeah, Self made out like a bandit, said the dim-witted chucklehead.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: bones129 on June 26, 2015, 12:22:32 AM
Go get 'em, Cliff. Hope you succeed.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: renocat on June 26, 2015, 12:23:49 AM
His momma whored is name, and to jump on the gravy train dog food too soon.  he needs to go to Europe and play,  Getc away from the leaches I
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: bones129 on June 26, 2015, 12:26:21 AM
His momma whored is name, and to jump on the gravy train dog food too soon.  he needs to go to Europe and play,  Getc away from the leaches I

You go get 'em, renocat.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: dal9 on June 27, 2015, 09:34:59 AM
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article25619575.html
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Post by: WackyCat08 on June 27, 2015, 10:04:04 AM
A lot of dumbass t shirt fans asked me if Cliff could go back to college this week. :lol:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: WackyCat08 on June 27, 2015, 10:07:02 AM
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article25619575.html
wtf?!!

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The wait had lasted deep into the night. Two hours, then three. One round, then into the second half of another. By the time 11 p.m. rolled around, NBA teams had drafted the following players: Arturas Gudaitis, Marcus Eriksson, Satnam Singh Bhamara and Cady Lalanne.

But no Cliff Alexander. The former top-five recruit in the high school class of 2014 went undrafted.

Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article25619575.html#storylink=cpy
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Post by: CNS on June 27, 2015, 10:13:02 AM
This guy needs a mentor.  I nominate Beaz.

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Post by: renocat on June 28, 2015, 12:07:19 AM
Alexander since he did the hat crap on Illinois fan, he has thought he was big time crap.  He made a mistake going to KU and trusting his momma who thought of him as cash register.  Beaz as a mentor is not a bad idea as he has had to eat humble pie.  A year of kung-fu ball in China with Yao might help.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: The Big Train on July 11, 2015, 03:45:08 PM
self got all he needed out of poor Jo-Jo and its gonna ruin the rest of his career  :frown:

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Post by: AbeFroman on August 16, 2015, 06:44:07 PM
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2015/aug/16/ku-basketball-notebook-perry-ellis-ranked-15th-nat/
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Taylor arrested

Former KU combo guard Tyshawn Taylor was arrested on Aug. 6 for allegedly using a counterfeit money order to obtain $1,000 in cash at “Big Banner Food Store” in his hometown of Hoboken, New Jersey, the New York Daily News reports.

Taylor, 25, was released on bond after turning himself into police. The Daily News said the store owners have known Taylor and his family members for years.

“When we went to deposit the order (on May 18), they said it was fake,” store manager Luisiana Jimenez told The Daily News. “When we told him about it, he said, ‘Yeah, I’m going to come to pay it back.’ We called him several times, and he never paid it back. We even contacted his mother in Florida, and she said she would handle it and that she would talk to him, and nothing. All this stuff with police, and still he won’t pay.”

Jimenez’s father, Luis, has owned the store since 1987. The Daily News says there is a pending court date.

“My dad gave him many chances because he grew up in this store,” Jimenez told the Daily News. “My dad has been here 27 years and has always helped his family when they needed food, when they were short. He always made sure they had something. If it was anybody else, he would have filed the complaint the next day, but he tried to give him as many chances as he could. It’s not only the money. It’s the way he’s been so ungrateful about the whole situation. That’s what hurts the most. He just doesn’t want to pay, and he’s been very arrogant about it.”

Taylor was a second-round draft pick of the Nets in 2012. On Friday, Taylor, who has had no comment on the matter, wrote some statements on Twitter that may or may not have been about this situation.

“You jus gotta let the ppl think what they want...everything isn’t worth being addressed,” he Tweeted. “Ain’t in the business of explaining myself....FACTS.”

Taylor played pro ball in Puerto Rico and Russia last season. He recently told cityofbasketballlove.com that he’s exploring opportunities to play pro ball in France or Turkey this season.

“It’s tough, especially when you go straight to the NBA and then you have to drop down,” Taylor told the website. “To travel around a little bit, it’s a little bit frustrating, it’s a little tough. I’m hoping if I go overseas and have a pretty good season like I’m expecting to, I think that it’ll be good.

“I’m just gonna keep at it,” he added. “I think that’s the hardest part about it, is just scratching and clawing and trying to fight for what you think you deserve. As far as me being in the NBA, I feel like I should be there. I think that’s the motivation for me, is to try to get back to where I think I belong.”

So sad. Another ex-player finds his life in shambles in a post-Bill Self world.
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Post by: Spracne on August 16, 2015, 07:01:03 PM
http://www.news-press.com/story/sports/2015/08/14/david-dorsey-column-bill-self-brightened-familys-spirits/31712389/
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 16, 2015, 07:12:05 PM
Nice of him to make the 5 minute walk
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: deputy dawg on August 18, 2015, 11:49:38 AM
http://www.news-press.com/story/sports/2015/08/14/david-dorsey-column-bill-self-brightened-familys-spirits/31712389/

Yeah, I'm definitely not of the "Jayhawk nation", can't really grasp this level of stupid idol worship:
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For those outside of Jayhawk nation, this would be like a Catholic hearing from the Pope or an American meeting the President.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: SdK on August 18, 2015, 07:14:48 PM
Heard from a good friend he only tips 15%.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 21, 2015, 08:24:59 AM
Heard from a good friend he only tips 15%.

That's a lot in a rube town like Lawrence.  I remember when I tipped 20% at the old Tellers and they insisted I had overpaid and looked at the tip like it was a spaceship
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Post by: WackyCat08 on August 21, 2015, 09:22:32 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: EMAWforever on August 21, 2015, 12:56:08 PM
He probably just tells those poor innocent girls that he is praying on that he only puts in the tip. And as far as Tyshawn turnover arrest, he probably thought it would just be taken care of like it was in college.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on August 21, 2015, 12:57:31 PM
Zing!
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: SdK on August 21, 2015, 03:52:20 PM
He probably just tells those poor innocent girls that he is praying on that he only puts in the tip. And as far as Tyshawn turnover arrest, he probably thought it would just be taken care of like it was in college.
Heard he just locks himself in the bathroom with the girls he's preying on.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: slobber on August 24, 2015, 09:05:24 AM

He probably just tells those poor innocent girls that he is praying on that he only puts in the tip. And as far as Tyshawn turnover arrest, he probably thought it would just be taken care of like it was in college.
Heard he just locks himself in the bathroom with the girls he's preying on.
I prefer the mental image of him 'praying' on them.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: SdK on August 25, 2015, 10:45:21 AM

He probably just tells those poor innocent girls that he is praying on that he only puts in the tip. And as far as Tyshawn turnover arrest, he probably thought it would just be taken care of like it was in college.
Heard he just locks himself in the bathroom with the girls he's preying on.
I prefer the mental image of him 'praying' on them.


Gonna win 'em all!
Haha :D
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: TownieCat on June 24, 2016, 09:23:23 AM
Selden should have got out after his freshman year. Very sad that Self let him fall from a sure lottery pick to undrafted. :frown:

It's a wonder that KU is able to recruit anyone over schools like  UK, Duke, etc that turn out high draft picks when Self takes diamonds and turns them into turds.

Best of luck to Diallo. He saw the writing on the wall and cashed in at the right time.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: CNS on June 24, 2016, 09:31:58 AM
Poor guy.  Was going to be a millionaire.  Now, he is going to have to scrap and bite just to be a thousandaire.  The KU story, I guess.   Sad.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: The Big Train on June 24, 2016, 11:07:05 AM
How many is that the last few years?  Alexander and Seldon come to mind that didn't even get drafted. :frown:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: pissclams on June 24, 2016, 11:20:49 AM
where did svi get drafted? Brennan Greene?
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: TownieCat on June 24, 2016, 11:31:36 AM
where did svi get drafted? Brennan Greene?

The D-League draft isn't until late October.

Also, how did we miss this story about Greene?  :sdeek:

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2016/may/21/brannen-greene-escapes-burning-car/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2016/may/21/brannen-greene-escapes-burning-car/)
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Tobias on June 24, 2016, 11:33:00 AM
massa seff thread
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Trim on June 24, 2016, 11:33:31 AM
You can't ever take away the NBA success of Sasha Kaun.

Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: EMAWforever on June 24, 2016, 12:26:05 PM
Another tale of Self ruining players. Is a sad story.  He still thinks they will be on a roster.  He is probably right (A European roster).  In better news, Baker was picked up by the Knicks as UDFA.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: EMAWforever on June 24, 2016, 01:02:35 PM
VanVleet to the Raptors.  Now  more Shockers have been picked up with NBA teams than Jayhawks. 
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Post by: wetwillie on June 24, 2016, 01:51:25 PM
Thanks for the memories perry ellis,  good luck in your insurance sales career.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: slobber on June 24, 2016, 03:28:49 PM
Thanks for the memories perry ellis,  good luck in your insurance sales career.
Isn't he just a junior?


Royals aren't gonna win 'em all
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 24, 2016, 03:56:43 PM
Totally shocked Greene didn't get lotto ed, total stud
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: The Big Train on June 24, 2016, 04:59:07 PM
where did svi get drafted? Brennan Greene?

The D-League draft isn't until late October.

Also, how did we miss this story about Greene?  :sdeek:

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2016/may/21/brannen-greene-escapes-burning-car/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2016/may/21/brannen-greene-escapes-burning-car/)

I'm not gonna take a rough ridin' survey to read that :curse:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 26, 2016, 08:39:00 AM
The fake lion killer got drafted right?
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: TownieCat on June 26, 2016, 02:02:07 PM
The fake lion killer got drafted right?
He was the 3rd overall pick in 2014 and has yet to play in a single NBA game :frown:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: wetwillie on June 26, 2016, 02:14:39 PM
Read an article that Izzo and Cal were working the phones hard on draft night on behalf of their guys.  Pretty safe to say that Self was radio silent that night.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: pissclams on June 26, 2016, 03:16:12 PM
Read an article that Izzo and Cal were working the phones hard on draft night on behalf of their guys.  Pretty safe to say that Self was radio silent that night.

a buddy of mine saw him stumbling out of free state around 4:30 pm with some Chi O, said he couldn't even walk
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 30, 2016, 12:06:49 PM
Boohoo!

http://cjonline.com/sports/hawkzone/2016-06-29/ku-basketballs-bill-self-laments-false-hope-nba-draft-advocates-system
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: EMAWforever on June 30, 2016, 12:48:05 PM
Maybe if he could coach his kids better and not stomp on their dreams, they wouldn't go undrafted.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: dal9 on October 02, 2016, 11:14:11 AM

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/17693334/kansas-jayhawks-staffer-makes-half-court-shot-win-10000-student
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For the second straight year, Kansas staffer Brennan Bechard cost Bill Self $10,000.

Bechard, the Jayhawks' director of basketball operations, made a half-court shot during Saturday's Late Night in the Phog to earn Kansas sophomore Jordan Stiers $10,000 from the Jayhawks coach.

Two students were randomly chosen to either take the half-court shot themselves or select someone else to shoot it. Last year, Bechard made the shot for student Jerrod Castro.

Next year, Brownback will take a halfcourt shot and if makes it, Self will pay taxes.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 05, 2016, 02:41:11 PM
Looks like Withey is forever scarred by the "trust issues" he developed playing for kThugU.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/10/05/playmate-year-kennedy-summers-dumps-nba-fianc-jeff-withey.html
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: kim carnes on October 06, 2016, 11:11:52 AM
That's too bad
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: meow meow on October 06, 2016, 01:37:21 PM
Withey is in the NBA?  weird
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: pissclams on October 06, 2016, 02:11:44 PM
Withey is in the NBA?  weird

how else do you think that goofy looking mongloid landed a playboy playmate
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Chingon on October 06, 2016, 02:38:35 PM
He reminded me of that boring guy from the first couple of seasons of parks and rec.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: pissclams on October 06, 2016, 05:32:39 PM
He reminded me of that boring guy from the first couple of seasons of parks and rec.

mark did score a lot of babes on the show
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: deputy dawg on October 07, 2016, 04:31:57 PM
Withey is in the NBA?  weird

how else do you think that goofy looking mongloid landed a playboy playmate

It's not nice to make fun of people with missing chromosomes...
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: pissclams on November 14, 2017, 08:46:19 PM
https://deadspin.com/kansas-freshman-billy-preston-suspended-for-crashing-ca-1820456543
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: I_have_purplewood on November 15, 2017, 09:31:32 AM
https://deadspin.com/kansas-freshman-billy-preston-suspended-for-crashing-ca-1820456543

He totally would have been playing if the FBI wasn't rooting around that stink joint.  I'm guessing they're trying to figure out if this Fed is morally bankrupt and will take a bribe him/herself.   :eek: (ftp://:eek:)
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: Brock Landers on November 15, 2017, 09:49:58 AM
https://deadspin.com/kansas-freshman-billy-preston-suspended-for-crashing-ca-1820456543

Obligatory "Did the car go 'round in circles while crashing" joke.

Also, Billy Preston's facial features seem too crammed together compared to the overall size of his head.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: mhkpasa on November 21, 2017, 06:46:37 PM

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Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: renocat on November 28, 2017, 02:52:55 PM
Who will pose the biggest challenge in Big 12 to KU?
http://www.kansan.com/sports/daily-debate-who-s-the-biggest-big-threat-to-kansas/article_fdd2c960-d3bb-11e7-a126-a761ecd9427d.html
I say OK.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: schreds21 on November 29, 2017, 10:59:16 AM
Who will pose the biggest challenge in Big 12 to KU?
http://www.kansan.com/sports/daily-debate-who-s-the-biggest-big-threat-to-kansas/article_fdd2c960-d3bb-11e7-a126-a761ecd9427d.html
I say OK.
I say KU
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: LeggoKatZ on January 01, 2018, 12:32:11 AM
"Carlton Bragg is leaving Arizona State, source told ESPN. Had transferred in from Kansas last spring."
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: The Big Train on January 20, 2018, 09:34:26 AM
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: ben ji on January 20, 2018, 09:53:52 AM
Congrats to Billy for escaping from Bill's reach. Hopefully he tears it up overseas and can salvage his draft stock.
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: WackyCat08 on January 20, 2018, 10:06:35 AM
 :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Seff is a monster
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 20, 2018, 12:08:21 PM
Bosnia, man he wanted rid of Self bad.