Post by: chum1 on April 06, 2010, 09:21:41 AM
Post by: EllToPay on April 06, 2010, 09:26:38 AM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 06, 2010, 10:39:02 AM
They're marketing genuises.
Post by: ew2x4 on April 06, 2010, 10:52:29 AM
Something that will be obsolete in a year (could be argued it's already obsolete) is in no way magical, nor revolutionary.
Post by: AzCat on April 06, 2010, 11:01:00 AM
Post by: michigancat on April 06, 2010, 11:04:29 AM
Post by: _33 on April 06, 2010, 11:06:26 AM
Post by: chum1 on April 06, 2010, 11:11:33 AM
Bravo to anyone who thinks that one phone or mp3 player brand is better than all the rest. :lol:
Post by: michigancat on April 06, 2010, 11:12:58 AM
Cell phones and (maybe) mp3 players are revolutionary. They didn't invent the technology for either. They just put their box and brand on them.
Bravo to anyone who thinks that one phone or mp3 player brand is better than all the rest. :lol:
Didn't say they were better than what's out there, I said they were revolutionary.
Post by: chum1 on April 06, 2010, 11:17:35 AM
Didn't say they were better than what's out there
:rusty:
Post by: pissclams on April 06, 2010, 11:21:03 AM
Again, to me the key is how Apple has been able to take all of these disparate pieces of technology and link them together, and then integrate them into people's everyday lives.
There's a lot of things I don't like about Apple but I'm willing to give credit where credit is due. Eventually they will be forced to change the iphone environment as they get overtaken by open source/Android but they've made and will continue to make a killing for a long time going forward.
Post by: chum1 on April 06, 2010, 11:31:51 AM
Post by: michigancat on April 06, 2010, 11:33:43 AM
Apple didn't really go over and above what was already out there: BlackBerry, Palm, and cameras and mp3 players in phones were common.
Yes they did.
Post by: chum1 on April 06, 2010, 11:37:09 AM
Apple didn't really go over and above what was already out there: BlackBerry, Palm, and cameras and mp3 players in phones were common.
Yes they did.
Not in terms of functionality. I'm not sure what else is as important with regard to innovation. Making it idiot friendly? Giving it a sexy image?
Post by: hemmy on April 06, 2010, 11:37:20 AM
Post by: michigancat on April 06, 2010, 11:39:21 AM
Apple didn't really go over and above what was already out there: BlackBerry, Palm, and cameras and mp3 players in phones were common.
Yes they did.
Not in terms of functionality. I'm not sure what else is as important with regard to innovation. Making it idiot friendly? Giving it a sexy image?
Making something idiot-friendly is most definitely a part of functionality.
Post by: _33 on April 06, 2010, 11:41:38 AM
Apple's marketing is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), no idea why people like it.
If something works really well and people love it but you think it's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), chances are you are completely wrong.
Post by: hemmy on April 06, 2010, 11:45:27 AM
Apple's marketing is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), no idea why people like it.
If something works really well and people love it but you think it's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), chances are you are completely wrong.
Many people believe in man made global warming too, doesn't mean its real. :dunno:
Seriously though, the PC vs Mac commercials were complete garbage. Every single one of them Apple just trashed Windows, and most of the things they said weren't true. People ate that crap up though, hence they are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Post by: chum1 on April 06, 2010, 11:48:16 AM
Apple didn't really go over and above what was already out there: BlackBerry, Palm, and cameras and mp3 players in phones were common.
Yes they did.
Not in terms of functionality. I'm not sure what else is as important with regard to innovation. Making it idiot friendly? Giving it a sexy image?
Making something idiot-friendly is most definitely a part of functionality.
It's not nearly as significant of an innovation as text or email in a phone. But if you're saying that one of Apple's greatest attributes is that they are able to deliver products that are easy for people to use, I'm not going to argue. I'm just not as impressed with it as people seem to think I should be.
Post by: _33 on April 06, 2010, 12:00:58 PM
Apple's marketing is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), no idea why people like it.
If something works really well and people love it but you think it's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), chances are you are completely wrong.
Seriously though, the PC vs Mac commercials were complete garbage. Every single one of them Apple just trashed Windows, and most of the things they said weren't true. People ate that crap up though, hence they are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
You said the marketing was Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Making a ton of people believe "untrue" things about PC's and thus persuading them to buy Macs doesn't seem Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). It seems brilliant.
Post by: michigancat on April 06, 2010, 12:03:46 PM
It's not nearly as significant of an innovation as text or email in a phone.
That's debatable. (Also, FWIW, I don't own any apple products and don't plan to any time soon. I just recognize them for what they are).
Post by: kougar24 on April 06, 2010, 12:04:21 PM
Now, to Apple's credit, they're able to do this because back in the day with the iPod and to a lesser extent the iMac before it, they really did design those products to adhere to the voice of the customer, thus building their brand equity to the point where now, Steve Jobs can pretty much put the Apple logo on anything and people will clamor for it and claim they've been "waiting for this!" since "way back when."
Post by: ew2x4 on April 06, 2010, 12:17:16 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on April 06, 2010, 12:17:54 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 06, 2010, 12:22:20 PM
It's just repackaged existing technology, built for mass consumption. The fact that people would spend $5-900 for first generation technology that currently has nothing more than a niche market is a joke and shows how sheepish people are, though.
Are you still talking about the iphone?
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 06, 2010, 12:26:50 PM
Post by: chum1 on April 06, 2010, 12:36:05 PM
Post by: _33 on April 06, 2010, 12:38:51 PM
I don't really have anything against Apple or their products. I just get annoyed with all of the hoopla every time they put out a product. It's like Notre Dame football and Duke basketball. Shut up, already.
You know what won't make people stop talking about Apple products? Starting a thread entitled "Apple".
Post by: chum1 on April 06, 2010, 12:46:56 PM
I don't really have anything against Apple or their products. I just get annoyed with all of the hoopla every time they put out a product. It's like Notre Dame football and Duke basketball. Shut up, already.
You know what won't make people stop talking about Apple products? Starting a thread entitled "Apple".
Nothing I do will stop the hoopla. I'm talking about the hoopla.
Post by: pissclams on April 06, 2010, 12:57:14 PM
They make sleek looking products that put form and usability above function. To 99% of the public their products do everything they need, and do it well, without a hassle.this pretty much sums it up. and LOL @ Duke's win sending Chum into orbit about Apple :lol:
Post by: chum1 on April 06, 2010, 01:01:14 PM
They make sleek looking products that put form and usability above function. To 99% of the public their products do everything they need, and do it well, without a hassle.this pretty much sums it up. and LOL @ Duke's win sending Chum into orbit about Apple :lol:
Good God, WTF would I have done had those $utler $ulldogs won it all!!! :runaway:
Post by: pissclams on April 06, 2010, 01:02:17 PM
Post by: ew2x4 on April 06, 2010, 01:36:09 PM
It's just repackaged existing technology, built for mass consumption. The fact that people would spend $5-900 for first generation technology that currently has nothing more than a niche market is a joke and shows how sheepish people are, though.
Are you still talking about the iphone?
That was talking about the ipad.
Post by: asava on April 06, 2010, 01:58:40 PM
Anyone who says that the iphone isn't revolutionary is just as blind as those who would follow apple without question. The invention of apps, the apps store, and the itunes marketplace alone is enough to put it in this category.
Post by: chum1 on April 06, 2010, 02:12:53 PM
Post by: asava on April 06, 2010, 02:14:48 PM
The Japanese invented quality. Apps are toys. iTunes? Don't know, but sounds like repackaged Napster. Everything else of theirs is a repackaged something else.
I didn't realize that napster figured out a way to actually be a extremely profitable, legally run business.
Post by: kougar24 on April 06, 2010, 02:37:23 PM
iphone...The invention of apps, the apps store
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Post by: asava on April 06, 2010, 02:45:25 PM
iphone...The invention of apps, the apps store
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
name the company that made these things accessible to the general public. when someone says "oh i've got this app" its not referring to anything else than apple.
definitely taking liberties with the word "invention," i agree.
GMAFB
do you give companies like Facebook flack for creating a social network that actually works and is more accessible than myspace? or friendster? technology is a progressive sport. it builds on top of itself, providing useful and more fluid products.
Post by: FP TC etc. on April 06, 2010, 02:48:20 PM
Post by: asava on April 06, 2010, 02:50:03 PM
People who blindly hate apple are also pretty funny. :users:
this.
Post by: ew2x4 on April 06, 2010, 03:17:04 PM
You could also add to the list of things they do well: Quality. Granted this has gone down as production has gone up, but every product they develop utilizes above average technology. The fact that every year they one-up themselves sets a benchmark not matched by many.
Anyone who says that the iphone isn't revolutionary is just as blind as those who would follow apple without question. The invention of apps, the apps store, and the itunes marketplace alone is enough to put it in this category.
What a load of utter crap. Above average tech? Their most powerful CPU's are 2 generations old. Video card options are pitiful. Inventing apps? Please tell me you're a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) 3 year old. You know "app" is short for "application" right?
Post by: kougar24 on April 06, 2010, 03:18:14 PM
iphone...The invention of apps, the apps store
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
name the company that made these things accessible to the general public. when someone says "oh i've got this app" its not referring to anything else than apple.
definitely taking liberties with the word "invention," i agree.
GMAFB
do you give companies like Facebook flack for creating a social network that actually works and is more accessible than myspace? or friendster? technology is a progressive sport. it builds on top of itself, providing useful and more fluid products.
First, I've never heard of "friendster."
Now that we've cleared that up, I never said anything negative about Apple's ability to market their products which improve upon originals made by others, or their ability to create more accessible ways to get to said products. In fact, I touted Apple's ability to do just that earlier in this thread.
What I was facepalming was the fact that you think Apple "invented" apps and app stores, which is ridiculous (yet very Apple Fanboy-ish of you). Cell phones had apps and online vending machines to buy apps long, long before Apple entered the telecom industry.
Now, if you'd have said, "Apple invented a new way in which to market apps, by allowing users to create their own and publish them," then I would have agreed with you wholeheartedly.
Post by: ew2x4 on April 06, 2010, 03:19:00 PM
iphone...The invention of apps, the apps store
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
name the company that made these things accessible to the general public. when someone says "oh i've got this app" its not referring to anything else than apple.
definitely taking liberties with the word "invention," i agree.
GMAFB
Who else made programs accessible to the general public? Are you seriously asking this???
Post by: asava on April 06, 2010, 04:10:32 PM
Now, if you'd have said, "Apple invented a new way in which to market apps, by allowing users to create their own and publish them," then I would have agreed with you wholeheartedly.
not inherently implied in this
iphone...The invention of apps, the apps store
?
you applied your own definition to apps or app store and then compared that with the portion of the apps or apps store created by apple. in that narrow scope you are correct. but the definition is not complete when looked at through the totality of what apple has created and utilized for profit. by doing this you sound like a anti-fanboy that has a limited perspective on technology.
Who else made programs accessible to the general public? Are you seriously asking this???
please see above. tia.
Post by: AzCat on April 06, 2010, 04:35:31 PM
The Japanese invented quality. Apps are toys. iTunes? Don't know, but sounds like repackaged Napster. Everything else of theirs is a repackaged something else.
Technology 101 Final Exam
Answer all questions in essay format.
1. MS-DOS was a repackaged version of Digital Research's CP/M operating system. Discuss the comparative present-day market values of Microsoft & Digital Research. Which is more profitable the innovator or the copycat?
2. The first commercially available motorcycle was produced by Hildebrand & Wolfmüller in 1894. Discuss the subsequent profitability of Hildebrand & Wolfmüller's firm up to and including the present day. Compare and contrast their financial results with those of later market entrants.
Extra credit: In 1927 HM Warner, co-founder of Warner Brothers, famously asked, "Who in the Hell wants to hear actors talk?" Compare and contrast his criticism of an evolutionary change in the technology relevant to his firm with the evolutionary change in consumer electronics driven by Apple today. Can an a seemingly minor evolutionary change produce extreme changes in the market for a given product? If so why? If not why not? Discuss examples supporting your answer.
Post by: kougar24 on April 06, 2010, 04:41:27 PM
How is thisNow, if you'd have said, "Apple invented a new way in which to market apps, by allowing users to create their own and publish them," then I would have agreed with you wholeheartedly.
not inherently implied in thisiphone...The invention of apps, the apps store
?
you applied your own definition to apps or app store and then compared that with the portion of the apps or apps store created by apple. in that narrow scope you are correct. but the definition is not complete when looked at through the totality of what apple has created and utilized for profit. by doing this you sound like a anti-fanboy that has a limited perspective on technology.Who else made programs accessible to the general public? Are you seriously asking this???
please see above. tia.
I own an iBook, so I'd hardly consider myself anti-Apple. I don't partake in something as stupid as "choosing sides" when it comes to brands. Some Apple products are better than their competitors' products; some are not.
As for your post above: yikes. There is no argument on the "definition of an app;" it's set in stone. "App" is just short for "application," and again, cell phones ran applications (Java, BREW, etc.) way before Apple entered the telecom industry. This isn't debatable; it's a fact.
What Apple did that was innovative in the telecom space was to market the app store and apps themselves, in their own campaigns. Prior to this, telecom carriers left it up to the 3rd party vendors to market their own individual apps, and the carriers stuck to just marketing phones, plans, and coverage.
Once again, most of Apple's "innovation" comes in the marketing space, not the technology space.
Post by: asava on April 06, 2010, 04:58:05 PM
As for your post above: yikes. There is no argument on the "definition of an app;" it's set in stone. "App" is just short for "application," and again, cell phones ran applications (Java, BREW, etc.) way before Apple entered the telecom industry. This isn't debatable; it's a fact.
What Apple did that was innovative in the telecom space was to market the app store and apps themselves, in their own campaigns. Prior to this, telecom carriers left it up to the 3rd party vendors to market their own individual apps, and the carriers stuck to just marketing phones, plans, and coverage.
Once again, most of Apple's "innovation" comes in the marketing space, not the technology space.
if you actually believe i don't know what the eff an Application is or how they are utilized throughout industry and technology you are an ass clown.
i obviously was referring to a very specific set of apps, and a very specific marketplace.
the apps created for the iphone are unique. in that they can not run on any other piece of machinery. the iphone had to exist prior to its apps existing, or at least the os. therefore the system and surrounding technology is unique and new.
whether something builds on something else or uses prior technology is meaningless. innovations come from expansion of previous knowledge and resources. if you can show me an app store that encompasses everything that the apple app store does, in the same manner (this included marketing AND structure) previous to the existence of the Apple app store then go ahead. the same argument applies to the apps as well.
Post by: ew2x4 on April 06, 2010, 05:02:00 PM
How is thisNow, if you'd have said, "Apple invented a new way in which to market apps, by allowing users to create their own and publish them," then I would have agreed with you wholeheartedly.
not inherently implied in thisiphone...The invention of apps, the apps store
?
you applied your own definition to apps or app store and then compared that with the portion of the apps or apps store created by apple. in that narrow scope you are correct. but the definition is not complete when looked at through the totality of what apple has created and utilized for profit. by doing this you sound like a anti-fanboy that has a limited perspective on technology.Who else made programs accessible to the general public? Are you seriously asking this???
please see above. tia.
You're still ignorant and delusional. They took something that has been around long before them, spit shined and marketed it to the masses. There was no inventing. "inventing apps and app stores" is certainly not a title held for Apple. I can't believe I'm actually having this conversation. Arguing that they "invented" apps for a certain platform as a case for your Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) statement is hilarious.
Post by: ew2x4 on April 06, 2010, 05:04:07 PM
As for your post above: yikes. There is no argument on the "definition of an app;" it's set in stone. "App" is just short for "application," and again, cell phones ran applications (Java, BREW, etc.) way before Apple entered the telecom industry. This isn't debatable; it's a fact.
What Apple did that was innovative in the telecom space was to market the app store and apps themselves, in their own campaigns. Prior to this, telecom carriers left it up to the 3rd party vendors to market their own individual apps, and the carriers stuck to just marketing phones, plans, and coverage.
Once again, most of Apple's "innovation" comes in the marketing space, not the technology space.
if you actually believe i don't know what the eff an Application is or how they are utilized throughout industry and technology you are an ass clown.
i obviously was referring to a very specific set of apps, and a very specific marketplace.
the apps created for the iphone are unique. in that they can not run on any other piece of machinery. the iphone had to exist prior to its apps existing, or at least the os. therefore the system and surrounding technology is unique and new.
whether something builds on something else or uses prior technology is meaningless. innovations come from expansion of previous knowledge and resources. if you can show me an app store that encompasses everything that the apple app store does, in the same manner (this included marketing AND structure) previous to the existence of the Apple app store then go ahead. the same argument applies to the apps as well.
Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) people must not know the difference between "innovate" and "invent".
Post by: kougar24 on April 06, 2010, 05:10:47 PM
As for your post above: yikes. There is no argument on the "definition of an app;" it's set in stone. "App" is just short for "application," and again, cell phones ran applications (Java, BREW, etc.) way before Apple entered the telecom industry. This isn't debatable; it's a fact.
What Apple did that was innovative in the telecom space was to market the app store and apps themselves, in their own campaigns. Prior to this, telecom carriers left it up to the 3rd party vendors to market their own individual apps, and the carriers stuck to just marketing phones, plans, and coverage.
Once again, most of Apple's "innovation" comes in the marketing space, not the technology space.
i obviously was referring to a very specific set of apps, and a very specific marketplace.
Wow, so your whole point is that Apple invented the iPhone App Store and ability to create iPhone apps to go in it?
Um, congrats?
Post by: asava on April 06, 2010, 05:14:11 PM
You're still ignorant and delusional. They took something that has been around long before them, spit shined and marketed it to the masses. There was no inventing. "inventing apps and app stores" is certainly not a title held for Apple. I can't believe I'm actually having this conversation. Arguing that they "invented" apps for a certain platform as a case for your Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) statement is hilarious.
apple invented applications and stores. stores have never existed before apple. ever. applications never existed before apple. evar. apple also invented the internet. they also invented lcd screens and logos. how can you be so asinine.
also
YOU'RE A Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) STATEMENT.
Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) people must not know the difference between "innovate" and "invent".
also its mentally impaired. i heard it on npr or something.
innovation is a form of invention.
innovate:
verb (used without object)
1.
to introduce something new; make changes in anything established.
–verb (used with object)
2.
to introduce (something new) for or as if for the first time: to innovate a computer operating system.
invent
–verb (used with object)
1.
to originate or create as a product of one's own ingenuity, experimentation, or contrivance: to invent the telegraph.
2.
to produce or create with the imagination: to invent a story.
3.
to make up or fabricate (something fictitious or false): to invent excuses.
by your standard invention is the creation of something out of nothing. no prior knowledge, no precedent. creating something new is invention.
Post by: asava on April 06, 2010, 05:16:10 PM
As for your post above: yikes. There is no argument on the "definition of an app;" it's set in stone. "App" is just short for "application," and again, cell phones ran applications (Java, BREW, etc.) way before Apple entered the telecom industry. This isn't debatable; it's a fact.
What Apple did that was innovative in the telecom space was to market the app store and apps themselves, in their own campaigns. Prior to this, telecom carriers left it up to the 3rd party vendors to market their own individual apps, and the carriers stuck to just marketing phones, plans, and coverage.
Once again, most of Apple's "innovation" comes in the marketing space, not the technology space.
i obviously was referring to a very specific set of apps, and a very specific marketplace.
Wow, so your whole point is that Apple invented the iPhone App Store and ability to create iPhone apps to go in it?
Um, congrats?
that was exactly my point. thank you for finally understanding.
Post by: ew2x4 on April 06, 2010, 05:22:28 PM
You're still ignorant and delusional. They took something that has been around long before them, spit shined and marketed it to the masses. There was no inventing. "inventing apps and app stores" is certainly not a title held for Apple. I can't believe I'm actually having this conversation. Arguing that they "invented" apps for a certain platform as a case for your Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) statement is hilarious.
apple invented applications and stores. stores have never existed before apple. ever. applications never existed before apple. evar. apple also invented the internet. they also invented lcd screens and logos. how can you be so asinine.
also
YOU'RE A Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) STATEMENT.Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) people must not know the difference between "innovate" and "invent".
also its mentally impaired. i heard it on npr or something.
innovation is a form of invention.
innovate:
verb (used without object)
1.
to introduce something new; make changes in anything established.
–verb (used with object)
2.
to introduce (something new) for or as if for the first time: to innovate a computer operating system.
invent
–verb (used with object)
1.
to originate or create as a product of one's own ingenuity, experimentation, or contrivance: to invent the telegraph.
2.
to produce or create with the imagination: to invent a story.
3.
to make up or fabricate (something fictitious or false): to invent excuses.
by your standard invention is the creation of something out of nothing. no prior knowledge, no precedent. creating something new is invention.
Maybe you should have looked it up before claiming apple invented them, then backtracking by using innovate. What an incredibly useless thread this has become.
Post by: kougar24 on April 06, 2010, 05:24:23 PM
apple invented applications and stores. stores have never existed before apple. ever. applications never existed before apple. evar.
The funny/sad part is that you actually believed this about 2 hours ago, and are backpedaling so fast you might trip over your power cord. But don't worry, I'm sure your power cord is magnetically connected to your PC so it'll just pop right outta there, no harm done!
Post by: asava on April 06, 2010, 05:30:56 PM
Maybe you should have looked it up before claiming apple invented them, then backtracking by using innovate. What an incredibly useless thread this has become.
:adored:
also not backtracking at all. innovation is a form of invention, therefore it is invention. i'm sorry i didn't write a dissertation on technological progression in order to prove my point. i just figured people would have not sucked.
apple invented applications and stores. stores have never existed before apple. ever. applications never existed before apple. evar.
The funny/sad part is that you actually believed this about 2 hours ago, and are backpedaling so fast you might trip over your power cord. But don't worry, I'm sure your power cord is magnetically connected to your PC so it'll just pop right outta there, no harm done!
yes i believe(d) that apple invented all stores.
Post by: 06wildcat on April 06, 2010, 05:45:43 PM
iPods are all marketing. They are the most overpriced mp3s on the market. The iPhone does have some redeeming qualities to it, none of which are enough to get me to give any money to AT&T though.
I would love to hear more about Apple inventing the wheel though, cause that's a truly revolutionary device (sorry for the pun).
Post by: pissclams on April 06, 2010, 05:49:42 PM
apple allowed users to manipulate and choose what applications were loaded on their phones. apple sold users a device that belongs to the individual and apple integrated and perfected the concept of using your phone for things outside of dialing your momma for a ride home from the park. you fugging work at sprint; you should know how many ways they've changed the industry and have those ways tattooed on your forehead by now - if nothing else, you shouldn't be arguing that all's apple has done is perfected creative marketing (although they're really good at that too).How is thisNow, if you'd have said, "Apple invented a new way in which to market apps, by allowing users to create their own and publish them," then I would have agreed with you wholeheartedly.
not inherently implied in thisiphone...The invention of apps, the apps store
?
you applied your own definition to apps or app store and then compared that with the portion of the apps or apps store created by apple. in that narrow scope you are correct. but the definition is not complete when looked at through the totality of what apple has created and utilized for profit. by doing this you sound like a anti-fanboy that has a limited perspective on technology.Who else made programs accessible to the general public? Are you seriously asking this???
please see above. tia.
I own an iBook, so I'd hardly consider myself anti-Apple. I don't partake in something as stupid as "choosing sides" when it comes to brands. Some Apple products are better than their competitors' products; some are not.
As for your post above: yikes. There is no argument on the "definition of an app;" it's set in stone. "App" is just short for "application," and again, cell phones ran applications (Java, BREW, etc.) way before Apple entered the telecom industry. This isn't debatable; it's a fact.
What Apple did that was innovative in the telecom space was to market the app store and apps themselves, in their own campaigns. Prior to this, telecom carriers left it up to the 3rd party vendors to market their own individual apps, and the carriers stuck to just marketing phones, plans, and coverage.
Once again, most of Apple's "innovation" comes in the marketing space, not the technology space.
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What Apple did that was innovative in the telecom space was to market the app store and apps themselves, in their own campaigns. Prior to this, telecom carriers left it up to the 3rd party vendors to market their own individual apps, and the carriers stuck to just marketing phones, plans, and coverage.this is still the case. Apple isn't a telecom carrier. AT&T is a telecom carrier. AT&T doesn't market apps. Apple does, Palm does, Android does, the application developers do, AT&T doesn't.
Post by: chum1 on April 06, 2010, 06:27:45 PM
Post by: Christer on April 06, 2010, 06:30:25 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 06, 2010, 06:44:28 PM
I'm sure we could find nifty was to construe anyone who has ever made a dime as some great innovator. The point is really that a lot of people talk about Apple as though they regularly invent significant new technologies. It's annoying because they don't.I think the opposite is true. For a lot of people Apple has invented new technologies. Point to me the original iPhone, the one before Apple made theirs.
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Post by: pissclams on April 06, 2010, 07:41:21 PM
Post by: kougar24 on April 06, 2010, 08:08:14 PM
apple allowed users to manipulate and choose what applications were loaded on their phones. apple sold users a device that belongs to the individual and apple integrated and perfected the concept of using your phone for things outside of dialing your momma for a ride home from the park. you fugging work at sprint; you should know how many ways they've changed the industry and have those ways tattooed on your forehead by now - if nothing else, you shouldn't be arguing that all's apple has done is perfected creative marketing (although they're really good at that too).How is thisNow, if you'd have said, "Apple invented a new way in which to market apps, by allowing users to create their own and publish them," then I would have agreed with you wholeheartedly.
not inherently implied in thisiphone...The invention of apps, the apps store
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you applied your own definition to apps or app store and then compared that with the portion of the apps or apps store created by apple. in that narrow scope you are correct. but the definition is not complete when looked at through the totality of what apple has created and utilized for profit. by doing this you sound like a anti-fanboy that has a limited perspective on technology.Who else made programs accessible to the general public? Are you seriously asking this???
please see above. tia.
I own an iBook, so I'd hardly consider myself anti-Apple. I don't partake in something as stupid as "choosing sides" when it comes to brands. Some Apple products are better than their competitors' products; some are not.
As for your post above: yikes. There is no argument on the "definition of an app;" it's set in stone. "App" is just short for "application," and again, cell phones ran applications (Java, BREW, etc.) way before Apple entered the telecom industry. This isn't debatable; it's a fact.
What Apple did that was innovative in the telecom space was to market the app store and apps themselves, in their own campaigns. Prior to this, telecom carriers left it up to the 3rd party vendors to market their own individual apps, and the carriers stuck to just marketing phones, plans, and coverage.
Once again, most of Apple's "innovation" comes in the marketing space, not the technology space.QuoteWhat Apple did that was innovative in the telecom space was to market the app store and apps themselves, in their own campaigns. Prior to this, telecom carriers left it up to the 3rd party vendors to market their own individual apps, and the carriers stuck to just marketing phones, plans, and coverage.this is still the case. Apple isn't a telecom carrier. AT&T is a telecom carrier. AT&T doesn't market apps. Apple does, Palm does, Android does, the application developers do, AT&T doesn't.
Sorry, I couldn't read your post, was distracted by Verizon's Family Locator commercial. I flipped the channel to get away from that, and lo and behold, there was Sprint advertising NFL Live!
Anyhoo, I'm well aware that in general, carriers still don't advertise apps...never said they did, if you'll read my post again. That was my point: Apple saw an opening and went for it.
I also never said marketing was the "only" innovative thing Apple has done. I said:
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most of Apple's "innovation" comes in the marketing space, not the technology space
...which is true.
Post by: CHONGS on April 06, 2010, 08:11:11 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 06, 2010, 08:12:09 PM
I got a "smart phone" a while before the first iPhone came out. It had apps, IM, email, true web browser, camera, media player, and all the usual stuff. I was like, "iPhone? BFD."
What model was it?
Post by: ew2x4 on April 06, 2010, 09:06:41 PM
I'm sure we could find nifty was to construe anyone who has ever made a dime as some great innovator. The point is really that a lot of people talk about Apple as though they regularly invent significant new technologies. It's annoying because they don't.I think the opposite is true. For a lot of people Apple has invented new technologies. Point to me the original iPhone, the one before Apple made theirs.
The iphone isn't a new technology. It's a collection of existing technologies that they combined together very successfully.
Post by: asava on April 06, 2010, 09:33:16 PM
I'm sure we could find nifty was to construe anyone who has ever made a dime as some great innovator. The point is really that a lot of people talk about Apple as though they regularly invent significant new technologies. It's annoying because they don't.I think the opposite is true. For a lot of people Apple has invented new technologies. Point to me the original iPhone, the one before Apple made theirs.
The iphone isn't a new technology. It's a collection of existing technologies that they combined together very successfully.
were you people around for everything new?
"these pies aren't anything new, its just a collection of these fruits, sugars, flours and high temperatures."
and yes the iphone is an invention. you would be an idiot to think otherwise.
Post by: pissclams on April 06, 2010, 09:40:28 PM
not new for you maybe, but definitely new to a lot of people who don't spend their spare time mashing machine code in the basements. i'll ask again, point me in the direction of the original, non-apple iphone that worked as well as the apple iphone.I'm sure we could find nifty was to construe anyone who has ever made a dime as some great innovator. The point is really that a lot of people talk about Apple as though they regularly invent significant new technologies. It's annoying because they don't.I think the opposite is true. For a lot of people Apple has invented new technologies. Point to me the original iPhone, the one before Apple made theirs.
The iphone isn't a new technology. It's a collection of existing technologies that they combined together very successfully.
Post by: ew2x4 on April 06, 2010, 10:11:27 PM
not new for you maybe, but definitely new to a lot of people who don't spend their spare time mashing machine code in the basements. i'll ask again, point me in the direction of the original, non-apple iphone that worked as well as the apple iphone.I'm sure we could find nifty was to construe anyone who has ever made a dime as some great innovator. The point is really that a lot of people talk about Apple as though they regularly invent significant new technologies. It's annoying because they don't.I think the opposite is true. For a lot of people Apple has invented new technologies. Point to me the original iPhone, the one before Apple made theirs.
The iphone isn't a new technology. It's a collection of existing technologies that they combined together very successfully.
Perspective is irrelevant. If you're unaware that 3M made the capacitive touch screen and not Apple, it's called ignorance. Apparently it's quite blissful.
As for your strawman question, that's debatable. Nothing was as simple or as pretty. There were many more powerful and capable phones, though. It depends what you mean by "worked as well".
Asava- don't be such a tard. You didn't have to witness it for it to have existed before. It doesn't mean you can make stuff up. Apple invented apps!!! gmafb.
Post by: asava on April 06, 2010, 10:18:50 PM
Post by: ew2x4 on April 06, 2010, 10:25:12 PM
somebody made apps for the iphone before apple?
This is why you're an idiot.
PS. Apple doesn't make the "applications".
Post by: jmlynch1 on April 06, 2010, 10:35:54 PM
somebody made apps for the iphone before apple?My bb has apps bro. Had them before Steven showed me that beer mug thingy on his Itelephone
Post by: chum1 on April 06, 2010, 10:42:23 PM
I got a "smart phone" a while before the first iPhone came out. It had apps, IM, email, true web browser, camera, media player, and all the usual stuff. I was like, "iPhone? BFD."
What model was it?
Sidekick!
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Post by: kougar24 on April 06, 2010, 10:43:39 PM
somebody made apps for the iphone before apple?My bb has apps bro. Had them before Steven showed me that beer mug thingy on his Itelephone
No, don't you see? Asava added "for the iPhone!" to his original Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) claim in his backpedaling effort.
Post by: asava on April 06, 2010, 10:49:00 PM
somebody made apps for the iphone before apple?My bb has apps bro. Had them before Steven showed me that beer mug thingy on his Itelephone
No, don't you see? Asava added "for the iPhone!" to his original Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) claim in his backpedaling effort.
oh you mean the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) claim where i thought that apple invented stores? that one? gmafb.
Post by: pissclams on April 06, 2010, 10:55:59 PM
not new for you maybe, but definitely new to a lot of people who don't spend their spare time mashing machine code in the basements. i'll ask again, point me in the direction of the original, non-apple iphone that worked as well as the apple iphone.I'm sure we could find nifty was to construe anyone who has ever made a dime as some great innovator. The point is really that a lot of people talk about Apple as though they regularly invent significant new technologies. It's annoying because they don't.I think the opposite is true. For a lot of people Apple has invented new technologies. Point to me the original iPhone, the one before Apple made theirs.
The iphone isn't a new technology. It's a collection of existing technologies that they combined together very successfully.
Perspective is irrelevant. If you're unaware that 3M made the capacitive touch screen and not Apple, it's called ignorance. Apparently it's quite blissful.
As for your strawman question, that's debatable. Nothing was as simple or as pretty. There were many more powerful and capable phones, though. It depends what you mean by "worked as well".
Asava- don't be such a tard. You didn't have to witness it for it to have existed before. It doesn't mean you can make stuff up. Apple invented apps!!! gmafb.
how hard is it for you to come up with these dumbass posts?
Post by: pissclams on April 06, 2010, 11:02:07 PM
Post by: asava on April 06, 2010, 11:11:31 PM
i might have figured it out- if you take a bunch of ideas that a bunch of other people patented - or didn't patent but just painfully executed, and bring them all together in a way that no one else has, and execute them better than anyone ever has, or ever thought of doing, and revolutionize an entire industry, it's the same thing as not doing any of those things. that's it, i got it.
OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH. This makes sense.
Post by: ew2x4 on April 06, 2010, 11:35:09 PM
i might have figured it out- if you take a bunch of ideas that a bunch of other people patented - or didn't patent but just painfully executed, and bring them all together in a way that no one else has, and execute them better than anyone ever has, or ever thought of doing, and revolutionize an entire industry, it's the same thing as not doing any of those things. that's it, i got it.
This isn't a hard concept. Picaso didn't invent paint, but he made an impact with it. Dipshit asava thinks Picaso invented the paint and the brush and hand made the canvas. Saying "apple invented apps" is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and you know it.
Post by: asava on April 06, 2010, 11:39:09 PM
i might have figured it out- if you take a bunch of ideas that a bunch of other people patented - or didn't patent but just painfully executed, and bring them all together in a way that no one else has, and execute them better than anyone ever has, or ever thought of doing, and revolutionize an entire industry, it's the same thing as not doing any of those things. that's it, i got it.
This isn't a hard concept. Picaso didn't invent paint, but he made an impact with it. Dipshit asava thinks Picaso invented the paint and the brush and hand made the canvas. Saying "apple invented apps" is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and you know it.
picasso may not have invented the brush, paint and canvas, but he invented and utilized several artistic methods to help him create his pieces. his pieces alone are inventions. in totality they have never done before. how do you not understand this.
Post by: ew2x4 on April 06, 2010, 11:51:14 PM
i might have figured it out- if you take a bunch of ideas that a bunch of other people patented - or didn't patent but just painfully executed, and bring them all together in a way that no one else has, and execute them better than anyone ever has, or ever thought of doing, and revolutionize an entire industry, it's the same thing as not doing any of those things. that's it, i got it.
This isn't a hard concept. Picaso didn't invent paint, but he made an impact with it. Dipshit asava thinks Picaso invented the paint and the brush and hand made the canvas. Saying "apple invented apps" is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and you know it.
picasso may not have invented the brush, paint and canvas, but he invented and utilized several artistic methods to help him create his pieces. his pieces alone are inventions. in totality they have never done before. how do you not understand this.
I understand exactly what you're saying. Making something "new" is insignificant in your context. Knock off Sony stereos in China are suddenly inventions and innovative because nobody had ever put the label "SONNY" on a stereo. But in reality, people have put together stereos with various technologies and designs many times before. My dump I took must have been a really awesome invention because it had never been done before in that shape. To say that Apple "invented" applications for a computing device is idiotic, so quit going around in circles trying to support that stupid statement.
Post by: asava on April 07, 2010, 12:01:42 AM
if you think this you are completely out of your rocker.
you absolutely have me on the fact that i said iphone invented applications. i'll give that to you. but you are still taking it out of the context of its obvious intentions.
theres a reason my logic is cyclical, and thats because its logic.
also to further put you nutzo's in place
http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1677329_1678542_1677891,00.html
Post by: ew2x4 on April 07, 2010, 12:17:06 AM
so you don't think that the structure in which iphone applications are sold to consumers (to put this in its proper context the app store includes all marketing ploys, all design that was created, and all functionality that can be found in its use), iphone and ipad applications in themselves, and iphones, or ipads are inventions?
if you think this you are completely out of your rocker.
you absolutely have me on the fact that i said iphone invented applications. i'll give that to you. but you are still taking it out of the context of its obvious intentions.
theres a reason my logic is cyclical, and thats because its logic.
also to further put you nutzo's in place
http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1677329_1678542_1677891,00.html
When did I criticize the app store as inventions/innovations? Never has a company had such a powerful force in marketing, control, and features that the app store does. I know some linux distros attempted similar methods of centralizing programs to make it easier for the end user. Obviously they weren't as successful and are simply forgettable. All of this is going back to my orginal point. They rarely develop anything new. They push existing ideas and technologies into a realm of mass consumption and success. You can't deny this.
Post by: chum1 on April 07, 2010, 12:24:10 AM
Post by: goldenticket on April 07, 2010, 12:33:13 AM
They rarely develop anything new. They push existing ideas and technologies into a realm of mass consumption and success.
i dont see how this is a bad thing. like you are mad because they took existing stuff and made it into something people like?
Post by: pissclams on April 07, 2010, 07:53:36 AM
Steve Jobs and his cult describe Apple's products as revolutionary and magical. There is a sense in which every new car model is a new invention. Nevertheless, not every new car model is revolutionary or magical. The same is true of Apple's inventions. Again, a phone is a phone, an mp3 player is an mp3 player, etc.it's a phone and mp3 player. combined with a million other things. that makes it different, and new. you have to look at the sum of the parts. dumbass.
Post by: michigancat on April 07, 2010, 08:06:38 AM
They rarely develop anything new. They push existing ideas and technologies into a realm of mass consumption and success.
i dont see how this is a bad thing. like you are mad because they took existing stuff and made it into something people like?
It's like saying Henry Ford doesn't doesn't deserve credit for revolutionalizing the auto industry because he didn't invent the automobile or the internal combustion engine or the wheel.
Post by: chum1 on April 07, 2010, 08:20:35 AM
Post by: michigancat on April 07, 2010, 08:24:56 AM
Didn't Ford invent the auto assembly line?
:lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_line
The only thing new about the iPhone was the logo. Had that logo been on an available BlackBerry phone instead, Apple devotees would have reacted the same way as they did to the iPhone.
This is probably true, but it wouldn't change the industry like the iphone did. Where Apple truly succeeded with the iPhone was selling it like crazy to non-Apple devotees.
Post by: chum1 on April 07, 2010, 08:53:11 AM
Didn't Ford invent the auto assembly line?
:lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_line
There wasn't an auto assembly line before Ford, there was one after Ford. Wasn't this significant because it made the automobile affordable? Sure, Apple did a few things that were new (like add a touchscreen). But did Apple do something new with the iPhone that yielded a comparably significant result?
The only thing new about the iPhone was the logo. Had that logo been on an available BlackBerry phone instead, Apple devotees would have reacted the same way as they did to the iPhone.
This is probably true, but it wouldn't change the industry like the iphone did. Where Apple truly succeeded with the iPhone was selling it like crazy to non-Apple devotees.
So, you agree that the iPhone is less about invention and more about branding and marketing? I think the industry change came about because of the technology itself more than because of any brand. Take away Apple and you're still left with a huge demand for things like web browsing while waiting on the bus.
Post by: chum1 on April 07, 2010, 09:01:29 AM
Post by: pissclams on April 07, 2010, 09:07:22 AM
I'd love to have an iPhone, BTW. But there's no way in hell I'm shelling out that kind of dough for a logo.don't shell out the dough for an iphone, just tape your mp3 player to the back of this, it's the exact same thing
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Post by: michigancat on April 07, 2010, 09:08:33 AM
Didn't Ford invent the auto assembly line?
:lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_line
There wasn't an auto assembly line before Ford, there was one after Ford. Wasn't this significant because it made the automobile affordable? Sure, Apple did a few things that were new (like add a touchscreen). But did Apple do something new with the iPhone that yielded a comparably significant result?
Olds had the patent on an auto assembly line. :dunno:
Didn't Ford invent the auto assembly line?
:lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_line
There wasn't an auto assembly line before Ford, there was one after Ford. Wasn't this significant because it made the automobile affordable? Sure, Apple did a few things that were new (like add a touchscreen). But did Apple do something new with the iPhone that yielded a comparably significant result?The only thing new about the iPhone was the logo. Had that logo been on an available BlackBerry phone instead, Apple devotees would have reacted the same way as they did to the iPhone.
This is probably true, but it wouldn't change the industry like the iphone did. Where Apple truly succeeded with the iPhone was selling it like crazy to non-Apple devotees.
So, you agree that the iPhone is less about invention and more about branding and marketing? I think the industry change came about because of the technology itself more than because of any brand. Take away Apple and you're still left with a huge demand for things like web browsing while waiting on the bus.
No, it's more about innovation and execution. Sure there would be demand for a phone that could browse the web, but would there be demand for it to also be an excellent media player?
Post by: ew2x4 on April 07, 2010, 09:11:59 AM
They rarely develop anything new. They push existing ideas and technologies into a realm of mass consumption and success.
i dont see how this is a bad thing. like you are mad because they took existing stuff and made it into something people like?
I never said it was a bad thing. It's not like I'm not giving them any credit at all. The only thing that is grinding my gears is people that think Apple discovered gravity, or created the sun. Or "applications"....
Post by: michigancat on April 07, 2010, 09:14:53 AM
They rarely develop anything new. They push existing ideas and technologies into a realm of mass consumption and success.
i dont see how this is a bad thing. like you are mad because they took existing stuff and made it into something people like?
I never said it was a bad thing. It's not like I'm not giving them any credit at all. The only thing that is grinding my gears is people that think Apple discovered gravity, or created the sun. Or "applications"....
Those people are pretty rare. For every asava, there's 10 pissclamses/michigancats.
Post by: OK_Cat on April 07, 2010, 09:22:06 AM
this thread screams of a few people trying to be rebels by hating things that are popular. if you weren't so jealous of the iphone, you wouldn't have 4 pages of trying to invalidate it. :lol:
Post by: asava on April 07, 2010, 09:26:15 AM
Post by: chum1 on April 07, 2010, 09:33:31 AM
this thread screams of a few people trying to be rebels by hating things that are popular.
I don't rant about other techie things that are popular. It's about how people overreact to what Apple does. It's a backlash to the overreaction. It's like the backlash against Notre Dame football.
Post by: chum1 on April 07, 2010, 10:43:01 AM
I'd love to have an iPhone, BTW. But there's no way in hell I'm shelling out that kind of dough for a logo.don't shell out the dough for an iphone, just tape your mp3 player to the back of this, it's the exact same thing
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If this is a serious suggestion, I'll have you know that I actually do prefer to carry a media player independently. That way, I don't run down the battery on my phone and web browser when I listen to pirated music that other people are forced to buy from iTunes.
Post by: kougar24 on April 07, 2010, 10:49:22 AM
my iphone is the only apple product that i own. :dunno:
this thread screams of a few people trying to be rebels by hating things that are popular. if you weren't so jealous of the iphone, you wouldn't have 4 pages of trying to invalidate it. :lol:
My EVO 4G and I are laughing at you. Heartily.
Post by: asava on April 07, 2010, 11:46:23 AM
I'd love to have an iPhone, BTW. But there's no way in hell I'm shelling out that kind of dough for a logo.don't shell out the dough for an iphone, just tape your mp3 player to the back of this, it's the exact same thing
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cellfanatic.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2008%2F05%2Fhistory-of-cell-phones.jpg&hash=a073d2c0f5cb2e02fbfa926c756950802baf38cf)
If this is a serious suggestion, I'll have you know that I actually do prefer to carry a media player independently. That way, I don't run down the battery on my phone and web browser when I listen to pirated music that other people are forced to buy from iTunes.
huh? :confused:
Post by: chum1 on April 07, 2010, 11:57:19 AM
If this is a serious suggestion, I'll have you know that I actually do prefer to carry a media player independently. That way, I don't run down the battery on my phone and web browser when I listen to pirated music that other people are forced to buy from iTunes.
huh? :confused:
I wasn't the one who hounded you about embellishing!
Post by: ew2x4 on April 07, 2010, 12:14:54 PM
They rarely develop anything new. They push existing ideas and technologies into a realm of mass consumption and success.
i dont see how this is a bad thing. like you are mad because they took existing stuff and made it into something people like?
I never said it was a bad thing. It's not like I'm not giving them any credit at all. The only thing that is grinding my gears is people that think Apple discovered gravity, or created the sun. Or "applications"....
Those people are pretty rare. For every asava, there's 10 pissclamses/michigancats.
I'm not taking a census. I was replying to asava. A direct quote from him taken in context.
Post by: michigancat on April 07, 2010, 12:20:02 PM
my iphone is the only apple product that i own. :dunno:
this thread screams of a few people trying to be rebels by hating things that are popular. if you weren't so jealous of the iphone, you wouldn't have 4 pages of trying to invalidate it. :lol:
My EVO 4G and I are laughing at you. Heartily.
You're comparing to something that hasn't even been released to the public to something that has been on the market for almost 3 years? And you're trying to say the product on the market for 3 years ago isn't a big deal?
Post by: asava on April 07, 2010, 12:23:52 PM
I'm not taking a census. I was replying to asava. A direct quote from him taken in my own context.
fyp.
also, srsly. lol.
Post by: kougar24 on April 07, 2010, 12:24:37 PM
my iphone is the only apple product that i own. :dunno:
this thread screams of a few people trying to be rebels by hating things that are popular. if you weren't so jealous of the iphone, you wouldn't have 4 pages of trying to invalidate it. :lol:
My EVO 4G and I are laughing at you. Heartily.
You're comparing to something that hasn't even been released to the public to something that has been on the market for almost 3 years? And you're trying to say the product on the market for 3 years ago isn't a big deal?
When did I say the iPhone wasn't a big deal? I said earlier that it greatly accelerated the smartphone market in the U.S. Without the iPhone, the EVO wouldn't be sitting on the desk in front of me at the moment.
Also, the EVO 4G reference was only directed toward the "jealous of the iPhone" comment. 3 years ago, OKCat would have been correct.
Post by: michigancat on April 07, 2010, 12:31:02 PM
When did I say the iPhone wasn't a big deal? I said earlier that it greatly accelerated the smartphone market in the U.S. Without the iPhone, the EVO wouldn't be sitting on the desk in front of me at the moment.
Also, the EVO 4G reference was only directed toward the "jealous of the iPhone" comment. 3 years ago, OKCat would have been correct.
Yeah, you really didn't. You just seemed to be taking chum's and ew2x4's side, and I assumed all those arguments are yours.
And more accurately, 2(?) months ago, OKCat would have been correct.
Post by: ew2x4 on April 07, 2010, 12:36:46 PM
As for your post above: yikes. There is no argument on the "definition of an app;" it's set in stone. "App" is just short for "application," and again, cell phones ran applications (Java, BREW, etc.) way before Apple entered the telecom industry. This isn't debatable; it's a fact.
What Apple did that was innovative in the telecom space was to market the app store and apps themselves, in their own campaigns. Prior to this, telecom carriers left it up to the 3rd party vendors to market their own individual apps, and the carriers stuck to just marketing phones, plans, and coverage.
Once again, most of Apple's "innovation" comes in the marketing space, not the technology space.
i obviously was referring to a very specific set of apps, and a very specific marketplace.
Wow, so your whole point is that Apple invented the iPhone App Store and ability to create iPhone apps to go in it?
Um, congrats?
that was exactly my point. thank you for finally understanding.again this is a narrow view of the complete picture. you are selling the whole scheme of things short.
Most hilarious post of this thread.
Post by: ew2x4 on April 07, 2010, 12:38:10 PM
apple invented applications and stores. stores have never existed before apple. ever. applications never existed before apple. evar.
The funny/sad part is that you actually believed this about 2 hours ago, and are backpedaling so fast you might trip over your power cord. But don't worry, I'm sure your power cord is magnetically connected to your PC so it'll just pop right outta there, no harm done!
Second best.
Post by: kougar24 on April 07, 2010, 12:38:41 PM
And more accurately, 2(?) months ago, OKCat would have been correct.
No.
Post by: steve dave on May 07, 2010, 12:24:07 PM
Post by: Pete on May 07, 2010, 12:27:26 PM
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/05/07/teach-this-lawyer-ho.html
Christ, it sounds like SD fast forward 20 years.
Post by: stunz on May 07, 2010, 07:52:42 PM
iphone is cool, but its pretty rough ridin' annoying when some things that should work on it, don't. will get something else next time. used to have a macbook as well, such a pos computer.
Post by: BigCat on May 07, 2010, 08:31:29 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_18377_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-apple.html:love:
:pray: that Apple's master plan is real :excited:
Post by: chum1 on May 07, 2010, 09:08:59 PM
Post by: theKSU on May 08, 2010, 12:15:38 AM
People hate Apple because they are successful. You see this in all sorts of things--music, movies, politics, etc. Every successful person or entity has its detractors.
As far as phones go--I had an Android and it sucked. I mean it's alright now that the hardware has somewhat caught up with the iPhone 3Gs. The graphics processor alone makes a huge difference. But when it comes to the experience of owning one, the App Store just blows away the few things available on Android Market.
Android is fine for people who need Verizon, but you're paying the same amount as I am and you don't have access to the App Store. Apple figured out what any successful company figures out--you want to own the platform. Nintendo figured this out in the 80s, Microsoft in the 90s, now Apple in the mobile market.
Besides, chicks think guys with iPhones are more attractive. http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/21/54-of-women-more-likely-to-date-men-with-iphones-says-iphone-retailer/ (http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/21/54-of-women-more-likely-to-date-men-with-iphones-says-iphone-retailer/)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 08, 2010, 12:34:03 AM
Of course Apple is the new Evil Empire. It was Microsoft, but that didn't stop me from using Windows for years and years. I finally got an iBook in 2006 and haven't used a PC hardly at all since then. The hardware and software are just better on the Mac. I don't give a crap about games, so I have little use for Windows. I just run VirtualBox or Remote Desktop in the few times I need it for something.
People hate Apple because they are successful. You see this in all sorts of things--music, movies, politics, etc. Every successful person or entity has its detractors.
As far as phones go--I had an Android and it sucked. I mean it's alright now that the hardware has somewhat caught up with the iPhone 3Gs. The graphics processor alone makes a huge difference. But when it comes to the experience of owning one, the App Store just blows away the few things available on Android Market.
Android is fine for people who need Verizon, but you're paying the same amount as I am and you don't have access to the App Store. Apple figured out what any successful company figures out--you want to own the platform. Nintendo figured this out in the 80s, Microsoft in the 90s, now Apple in the mobile market.
Besides, chicks think guys with iPhones are more attractive. http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/21/54-of-women-more-likely-to-date-men-with-iphones-says-iphone-retailer/ (http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/21/54-of-women-more-likely-to-date-men-with-iphones-says-iphone-retailer/)
Maybe correct...but the Android side...is the future...imo.
Post by: chum1 on May 08, 2010, 12:40:47 AM
Of course Apple is the new Evil Empire.
They've always been evil. In spite of that, they have a reputation that they're not.
People hate Apple because they are successful. You see this in all sorts of things--music, movies, politics, etc. Every successful person or entity has its detractors.
Haters! Like with Fitz, right? I don't dislike Microsoft or Google. They're both as successful as Apple. They're just not phony like Apple.
Post by: ew2x4 on May 08, 2010, 03:41:21 AM
And you may have been asleep the past several months, because phones out now make the 3GS look like a Zach Morris handset in terms of hardware.
As for your comment about hardware and software being better, don't kid yourself. Better to you is simple and easy. You're obviously not talking about the most capable, the most powerful, the most flexible, the most affordable, the most upgradeable, the most open, etc. Because Apple falls into none of those categories in hardware nor software.
Post by: stunz on May 08, 2010, 03:59:17 AM
The hardware and software are just better on the Mac.
heh.
Post by: hemmy on May 08, 2010, 01:14:26 PM
Of course Apple is the new Evil Empire. It was Microsoft, but that didn't stop me from using Windows for years and years. I finally got an iBook in 2006 and haven't used a PC hardly at all since then. The hardware and software are just better on the Mac. I don't give a crap about games, so I have little use for Windows. I just run VirtualBox or Remote Desktop in the few times I need it for something.
People hate Apple because they are successful. You see this in all sorts of things--music, movies, politics, etc. Every successful person or entity has its detractors.
As far as phones go--I had an Android and it sucked. I mean it's alright now that the hardware has somewhat caught up with the iPhone 3Gs. The graphics processor alone makes a huge difference. But when it comes to the experience of owning one, the App Store just blows away the few things available on Android Market.
Android is fine for people who need Verizon, but you're paying the same amount as I am and you don't have access to the App Store. Apple figured out what any successful company figures out--you want to own the platform. Nintendo figured this out in the 80s, Microsoft in the 90s, now Apple in the mobile market.
Besides, chicks think guys with iPhones are more attractive. http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/21/54-of-women-more-likely-to-date-men-with-iphones-says-iphone-retailer/ (http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/21/54-of-women-more-likely-to-date-men-with-iphones-says-iphone-retailer/)
:flush:
Post by: stunz on May 08, 2010, 02:57:27 PM
The hardware and software are just better on the Mac.
The hardware and software are just better on the Mac.
The hardware and software are just better on the Mac.
The hardware and software are just better on the Mac.
The hardware and software are just better on the Mac.
The hardware and software are just better on the Mac.
The hardware and software are just better on the Mac.
The hardware and software are just better on the Mac.
The hardware and software are just better on the Mac.
The hardware and software are just better on the Mac.
The hardware and software are just better on the Mac.
The hardware and software are just better on the Mac.
The hardware and software are just better on the Mac.
Post by: chum1 on May 14, 2010, 06:41:15 AM
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in the first three months of 2010, Android captured 28% of the smartphone market, while Apple's iPhone grabbed only 21%...Blackberry (RIMM) still leads the pack with 36% of the smartphone market
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/05/10/android-demolishing-iphone-in-sales/ (http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/05/10/android-demolishing-iphone-in-sales/)
Post by: kougar24 on May 14, 2010, 08:46:09 AM
http://tv.gawker.com/5526868/jon-stewart-slams-apple-over-its-handling-of-gizmodo-case
:users:
Post by: _33 on May 14, 2010, 09:00:22 AM
Post by: _33 on May 14, 2010, 09:03:51 AM
Post by: _33 on May 14, 2010, 09:06:02 AM
Post by: _33 on May 14, 2010, 09:17:15 AM
Post by: chum1 on May 14, 2010, 09:24:13 AM
Post by: _33 on May 14, 2010, 09:48:50 AM
Are you being defensive because you paid three or four times as much money for something from Apple that is functionally equivalent to something from another company?
I just thought the pictures were cute. :dunno:
Post by: chum1 on May 14, 2010, 10:00:26 AM
Post by: _33 on May 14, 2010, 10:05:53 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on May 14, 2010, 10:17:24 AM
And I think its pretty clear that the new line of Droids (Motorola, HTC Incredible, HTC EVO) will give Apple fits, if not surpass, even when the new iphone comes our this summer.
Post by: _33 on May 14, 2010, 10:27:09 AM
The link chum sent was Apple vs Droid more than Apple vs PC.
Yeah, sorry. I hadn't been in this thread for a while. I have a Samsung flip phone.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 14, 2010, 10:29:24 AM
Are you being defensive because you paid three or four times as much money for something from Apple that is functionally equivalent to something from another company?
I just thought the pictures were cute. :dunno:
You thought right. They are adorable. :D
Post by: chum1 on July 12, 2010, 07:27:21 PM
http://www.pcworld.com/article/200954/apples_arrogance_and_the_iphone_4_antenna_debacle.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/200954/apples_arrogance_and_the_iphone_4_antenna_debacle.html)
Post by: FP TC etc. on July 12, 2010, 07:38:36 PM
Post by: chum1 on July 12, 2010, 07:49:25 PM
Durr, I hate apple, durr.
That would make for a stupid thread. I'm more interested in people's misconceptions about Apple company, its products, and the brainsick Steve Jobs.
Post by: pissclams on July 12, 2010, 08:10:32 PM
This one falls directly on Steve Jobs who has handled this mess in the worst way possible.
Post by: Kat Kid on July 12, 2010, 08:58:51 PM
Post by: Saulbadguy on July 12, 2010, 09:11:16 PM
Post by: pissclams on July 12, 2010, 09:50:49 PM
Apples iOS4 has completely fracked our exchange servers. Apple could care less. shazbot! EM.LOL.
Post by: chum1 on July 12, 2010, 10:03:37 PM
What misconceptions about the company and its products?
I just meant in general. Plenty of people think that Apple is one of the few good hearted companies in a world full of evil companies. Things like that. As for products, just last Friday a girl I work with was showing me why her iPhone was superior to other phones, yet nothing she showed me was a function unique to iPhone. I mean, I get it that there are a lot of dumb people out there. What's a lot harder for me to grasp is how these people don't even take a second to think about these things because they're too wrapped up in some sort of Apple consumer mania.
Post by: pissclams on July 12, 2010, 10:21:30 PM
You have to give apple their credit where it's due, most people (like the girl in your example) don't want to or can't figure out how to do the things they can do with their iphones on other phones like an android device.
Steve jobs is their greatest asset and their biggest risk, if Apple's board wasn't dominated by Steve Jobs, they'd be protecting their future and beginning the process of separating themselves some from him. Anything happens to him (or if he continues to pull jackass crap like has happened with the new iPhone 4) and Apple is screwed b/c people link Apple's success with him, which is appropriate because of his contribution to the company but it's too damn risky to do that. Notice how Microsoft and Bill Gates aren't synonymous as they once were.
Post by: hemmy on July 12, 2010, 10:42:34 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 12, 2010, 10:51:43 PM
My 800D case is much sexier than any Mac.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You know you still have to buy the parts to put into the case, right?
Post by: hemmy on July 13, 2010, 09:30:34 AM
My 800D case is much sexier than any Mac.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You know you still have to buy the parts to put into the case, right?
They are in there :dunno: Good luck concealing your cables in an inferior case.
Post by: steve dave on July 13, 2010, 11:14:59 AM
apple kinda going GPC over this thing
Post by: Trim on July 13, 2010, 11:18:13 AM
http://gizmodo.com/5585686/apple-censors-threads-on-negative-consumer-reports-iphone-4-test
apple kinda going GPC over this thing
Consumer Reports reeled them in again!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 13, 2010, 11:29:27 AM
My 800D case is much sexier than any Mac.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You know you still have to buy the parts to put into the case, right?
They are in there :dunno: Good luck concealing your cables in an inferior case.
I understand getting what you pay for and all that, but I've never actually seen a case (at least in person) that cost more than about $150. Can you post a pic of your case so everyone can judge whether it actually looks sexier than a Mac?
Post by: ew2x4 on July 13, 2010, 11:48:40 AM
My 800D case is much sexier than any Mac.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You know you still have to buy the parts to put into the case, right?
They are in there :dunno: Good luck concealing your cables in an inferior case.
I understand getting what you pay for and all that, but I've never actually seen a case (at least in person) that cost more than about $150. Can you post a pic of your case so everyone can judge whether it actually looks sexier than a Mac?
800D does not mean $800. It's a model number.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 13, 2010, 11:52:21 AM
My 800D case is much sexier than any Mac.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You know you still have to buy the parts to put into the case, right?
They are in there :dunno: Good luck concealing your cables in an inferior case.
I understand getting what you pay for and all that, but I've never actually seen a case (at least in person) that cost more than about $150. Can you post a pic of your case so everyone can judge whether it actually looks sexier than a Mac?
800D does not mean $800. It's a model number.
Oh, sorry Hemmy. I was confused.
Post by: pissclams on July 13, 2010, 01:11:37 PM
My 800D case is much sexier than any Mac.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You know you still have to buy the parts to put into the case, right?
They are in there :dunno: Good luck concealing your cables in an inferior case.
I understand getting what you pay for and all that, but I've never actually seen a case (at least in person) that cost more than about $150. Can you post a pic of your case so everyone can judge whether it actually looks sexier than a Mac?
800D does not mean $800. It's a model number.
heh, the thing still costs $275- which, according to hemmy, will buy you the best non-apple tablet on the market.My 800D case is much sexier than any Mac.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You know you still have to buy the parts to put into the case, right?
They are in there :dunno: Good luck concealing your cables in an inferior case.
I understand getting what you pay for and all that, but I've never actually seen a case (at least in person) that cost more than about $150. Can you post a pic of your case so everyone can judge whether it actually looks sexier than a Mac?
800D does not mean $800. It's a model number.
Oh, sorry Hemmy. I was confused.
Post by: wiley on July 13, 2010, 02:48:04 PM
Apples iOS4 has completely fracked our exchange servers. Apple could care less. shazbot! EM.
what's happening w/this? our resident tool hasn't bought his new iphone yet. *did some reading* is it overtaxing resources?
http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2010/07/01/apple-ios-4-causing-some-issues-for-exchange-e-mail-users/ (http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2010/07/01/apple-ios-4-causing-some-issues-for-exchange-e-mail-users/)
Post by: ew2x4 on July 13, 2010, 03:36:19 PM
Post by: pissclams on July 13, 2010, 04:15:16 PM
Apple has the best looking, worst ergonomical products on the market. PC cases won't look nearly as good because they're open systems. They have to allow for more cooling, more slots, more ports, etc. That stuff is ugly. I just want a brushed aluminum box. I'm trying to design my living room and tv to where all my components are hidden and you just see the tv.buy a coolermaster wavemaster. i've got one and it looks elite.
Post by: ew2x4 on July 13, 2010, 04:30:58 PM
Apple has the best looking, worst ergonomical products on the market. PC cases won't look nearly as good because they're open systems. They have to allow for more cooling, more slots, more ports, etc. That stuff is ugly. I just want a brushed aluminum box. I'm trying to design my living room and tv to where all my components are hidden and you just see the tv.buy a coolermaster wavemaster. i've got one and it looks elite.
I'm talking about this:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lian-li.com%2Fv2%2Ftw%2Fproduct%2FPC-A71F-b.jpg&hash=110b6ef64d8b7f5d2e30d74b813b353e76c0c99e)
Post by: pissclams on July 13, 2010, 04:37:04 PM
Post by: hemmy on July 13, 2010, 09:10:33 PM
Apple has the best looking, worst ergonomical products on the market. PC cases won't look nearly as good because they're open systems. They have to allow for more cooling, more slots, more ports, etc. That stuff is ugly. I just want a brushed aluminum box. I'm trying to design my living room and tv to where all my components are hidden and you just see the tv.
No, Apple computers are ugly. Only smug jackasses who use their Macbooks in starbucks like the way they look.
The only thing I wish was different about the Corsair 800D was that it was made of Aluminum, not steel. Not that I ever move my computer.
Post by: Saulbadguy on July 13, 2010, 09:15:47 PM
making excessive RPC requests, not tearing down the connection when disconnecting. Takes about a day or two to our mail server to its knees. Reboot, and it's fixed for another day or two.Apples iOS4 has completely fracked our exchange servers. Apple could care less. shazbot! EM.
what's happening w/this? our resident tool hasn't bought his new iphone yet. *did some reading* is it overtaxing resources?
http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2010/07/01/apple-ios-4-causing-some-issues-for-exchange-e-mail-users/ (http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2010/07/01/apple-ios-4-causing-some-issues-for-exchange-e-mail-users/)
Post by: pissclams on July 13, 2010, 09:35:22 PM
Post by: hemmy on July 13, 2010, 11:08:06 PM
i'm still LOLing at a 800D case. what a complete piece of trash. :lol:
You wish you had something that nice.
Post by: SuperG on July 13, 2010, 11:26:14 PM
No, Apple computers are ugly. Only smug jackasses who use their Macbooks in starbucks like the way they look.
The only thing I wish was different about the Corsair 800D was that it was made of Aluminum, not steel. Not that I ever move my computer.
You're really just wrong about this. Of course, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but there is pretty much a consensus that people like Apple's industrial design.
Aside from aesthetics, their engineering is often times hit and miss (as we might be seeing with the iPhone). That said, I've been in and out of and built and torn-down hundreds of computers over the last 12 years. I can't say I've never seen one, on the whole, more impressively designed and engineered than the new Mac Pro:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgadgets.boingboing.net%2Fmacpro_inside.jpg&hash=6a80c8a1233cc47e3b16ddb6a36236714825fbe0)
Post by: ew2x4 on July 14, 2010, 01:07:32 AM
The interior of most Lian Li's kill their appeal for me, as most of them suck.Apple has the best looking, worst ergonomical products on the market. PC cases won't look nearly as good because they're open systems. They have to allow for more cooling, more slots, more ports, etc. That stuff is ugly. I just want a brushed aluminum box. I'm trying to design my living room and tv to where all my components are hidden and you just see the tv.
No, Apple computers are ugly. Only smug jackasses who use their Macbooks in starbucks like the way they look.
The only thing I wish was different about the Corsair 800D was that it was made of Aluminum, not steel. Not that I ever move my computer.
It's an opinion, but sorry, yours is wrong. Saying a case with a window, any case with a window, is better than all brushed aluminum is insane. The 90's are gone, man. Let them die. The fact Alienware still makes stupid looking crap is a testament that that is still popular, though.
Post by: pissclams on July 14, 2010, 08:45:53 AM
Post by: steve dave on July 14, 2010, 09:13:56 AM
Post by: ew2x4 on July 14, 2010, 09:18:29 AM
I don't own anything apple but their stuff is the sexy. THE SEXY
This. Too bad it's mostly poorly engineered or has a complete lack of thought for function and ergonomics.
Post by: pissclams on July 14, 2010, 09:45:31 AM
this is just stupid.I don't own anything apple but their stuff is the sexy. THE SEXY
This. Too bad it's mostly poorly engineered or has a complete lack of thought for function and ergonomics.
the only thing that i can think of that was poorly designed ergonomically was their first couple of mice. the new super mouse is incred well designed.
regarding functional engineeing, LOL at trying to talk smack on that mac pro superg pointed to. or my imac for that matter.
Post by: chum1 on July 14, 2010, 10:17:38 AM
Post by: michigancat on July 14, 2010, 11:11:43 AM
I really can't tell much difference in appearance between Apple products and other products on the market. I wouldn't describe any as sexy. Overall, I think Apple products are about as hip as Starbucks and The Cheesecake Factory. But my bigger concern is judging people for buying a phone on the basis that it's hip.
You're such a goddam hick. Why don't you go on a "stars don't matter" rant next?
Jesus.
Post by: chum1 on July 14, 2010, 12:18:06 PM
When Jobs introduced the phone, he also introduced the bumper.
Apple didn't have a bumper for previous iPhones.
Jobs' inital reaction was to tell a complaining customer to hold the phone a diiferent way.
Apple's latest official position is that there is not a hardware problem.
Is the timing of the bumper just a coincidence? How did Jobs seem to know exactly what advice to give so quickly?
Post by: pissclams on July 14, 2010, 12:29:41 PM
So, Apple's reputation for quality has taken a hit due to the iPhone 4 design flaw. Should this reputation take a bigger hit if they knew about the problem beforehand and decided to release a faulty product anyway? Supposedly:jobs didn't introduce the bumper w/ the phone.
When Jobs introduced the phone, he also introduced the bumper.
Apple didn't have a bumper for previous iPhones.
Jobs' inital reaction was to tell a complaining customer to hold the phone a diiferent way.
Apple's latest official position is that there is not a hardware problem.
Is the timing of the bumper just a coincidence? How did Jobs seem to know exactly what advice to give so quickly?
i honestly can't figure out how the new antenae problems slipped through their QA but it did.
regardless, to answer your question- no. the reputation you're referring to is engineering quality and that quality is the same independent of when they became aware of it. freaking hick.
Post by: hemmy on July 14, 2010, 12:39:42 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg85.imageshack.us%2Fimg85%2F4894%2Fimg0963w.jpg&hash=9dc231286b105c29a0c61f770df818073e443364)
Post by: steve dave on July 14, 2010, 12:44:55 PM
Good luck mounting a 3x120mm radiator in your Apple case :lol:
OH, IKNOWRITE!
Post by: ew2x4 on July 14, 2010, 02:04:57 PM
this is just stupid.I don't own anything apple but their stuff is the sexy. THE SEXY
This. Too bad it's mostly poorly engineered or has a complete lack of thought for function and ergonomics.
the only thing that i can think of that was poorly designed ergonomically was their first couple of mice. the new super mouse is incred well designed.
regarding functional engineeing, LOL at trying to talk smack on that mac pro superg pointed to. or my imac for that matter.
iphones- no removable battery, yellow spots on screen, glass that shatters way too easily, etc.
imacs- severe issues with yellows screens, even stopped production. Other than that huge flaw, this and the Mac Pro are by far the two best products.
No, the Magic Mouse still sucks. Sorry. Everyone of the predecessors was awful.
This is an overly stupid rant that hits some good points- http://gizmodo.com/5537348/adam-carolla-complains-about-apple
There's plenty more. My biggest gripe goes beyond just simple engineering. It is about how closed the systems are. They don't offer much in terms of power, and have no way to upgrade most of your system. They limit features based on what they want. I want the choice of having any features I want. But that's just me.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 14, 2010, 02:06:26 PM
Good luck mounting a 3x120mm radiator in your Apple case :lol:I'm taking it thats the only thing you have been mounting lately isn't it.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg85.imageshack.us%2Fimg85%2F4894%2Fimg0963w.jpg&hash=9dc231286b105c29a0c61f770df818073e443364)
Post by: wiley on July 14, 2010, 02:09:50 PM
Good luck mounting a 3x120mm radiator in your Apple case :lol:I'm taking it thats the only thing you have been mounting lately isn't it.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg85.imageshack.us%2Fimg85%2F4894%2Fimg0963w.jpg&hash=9dc231286b105c29a0c61f770df818073e443364)
:surprised: <-- finally got to use this
Post by: Saulbadguy on July 14, 2010, 02:36:58 PM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on July 14, 2010, 06:37:47 PM
FYI- before you computer nerds reply, I admit I am a computer Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). I can see where you doodz that know how to fix and upgrade computers and stuff would hate Apple. :cheers:
:users: <------ me but without that big box underneath my monitor and with a nice flat screen monitor and elite magic mouse.
Post by: hemmy on July 14, 2010, 10:21:38 PM
evga :lol:
Best customer service, and best warranty, by far. Last ASUS RMA I had was sent back with physical damage.
The best part about Apple is that when you buy something from them, it just fracking works. It just works. You take it out of the box, plug in a couple of cords, and go. Not 16 cords, 13 disks, 184 drivers, then anti virus that you have no idea whether or not it is doing anything or not. Since I have had my Mac, I have had no popups, Apple hasn't asked me once if I was sure I wanted to do anything even though I always clicked the box that says don't ask me again, and I have not had one problem. (waiting for computer to explode before I get done typing)
FYI- before you computer nerds reply, I admit I am a computer Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). I can see where you doodz that know how to fix and upgrade computers and stuff would hate Apple. :cheers:
:users: <------ me but without that big box underneath my monitor and with a nice flat screen monitor and elite magic mouse.
Pop ups are not related to the operating system, Macs can get viruses too, and no hardware can function without drivers, drivers are ALWAYS required.
I know, I know I am definitely taking the bait. :bait: :bait: :bait: :bait: :bait: :bait: (<- except biting)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on July 15, 2010, 06:33:45 AM
pfffffft. Hey Hemmy. How is Gilbert and that gay guy that can throw the javelin real far?evga :lol:
Best customer service, and best warranty, by far. Last ASUS RMA I had was sent back with physical damage.The best part about Apple is that when you buy something from them, it just fracking works. It just works. You take it out of the box, plug in a couple of cords, and go. Not 16 cords, 13 disks, 184 drivers, then anti virus that you have no idea whether or not it is doing anything or not. Since I have had my Mac, I have had no popups, Apple hasn't asked me once if I was sure I wanted to do anything even though I always clicked the box that says don't ask me again, and I have not had one problem. (waiting for computer to explode before I get done typing)
FYI- before you computer nerds reply, I admit I am a computer Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). I can see where you doodz that know how to fix and upgrade computers and stuff would hate Apple. :cheers:
:users: <------ me but without that big box underneath my monitor and with a nice flat screen monitor and elite magic mouse.
Pop ups are not related to the operating system, Macs can get viruses too, and no hardware can function without drivers, drivers are ALWAYS required.
I know, I know I am definitely taking the bait. :bait: :bait: :bait: :bait: :bait: :bait: (<- except biting)
Post by: OK_Cat on July 15, 2010, 09:16:03 AM
pfffffft. Hey Hemmy. How is Gilbert and that gay guy that can throw the javelin real far?evga :lol:
Best customer service, and best warranty, by far. Last ASUS RMA I had was sent back with physical damage.The best part about Apple is that when you buy something from them, it just fracking works. It just works. You take it out of the box, plug in a couple of cords, and go. Not 16 cords, 13 disks, 184 drivers, then anti virus that you have no idea whether or not it is doing anything or not. Since I have had my Mac, I have had no popups, Apple hasn't asked me once if I was sure I wanted to do anything even though I always clicked the box that says don't ask me again, and I have not had one problem. (waiting for computer to explode before I get done typing)
FYI- before you computer nerds reply, I admit I am a computer Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). I can see where you doodz that know how to fix and upgrade computers and stuff would hate Apple. :cheers:
:users: <------ me but without that big box underneath my monitor and with a nice flat screen monitor and elite magic mouse.
Pop ups are not related to the operating system, Macs can get viruses too, and no hardware can function without drivers, drivers are ALWAYS required.
I know, I know I am definitely taking the bait. :bait: :bait: :bait: :bait: :bait: :bait: (<- except biting)
OMG LOL, Lamar. I can totally see Hemmy hanging out with Lamar and Booger.
Post by: ew2x4 on July 15, 2010, 09:43:38 AM
The best part about Apple is that when you buy something from them, it just fracking works. It just works. You take it out of the box, plug in a couple of cords, and go. Not 16 cords, 13 disks, 184 drivers, then anti virus that you have no idea whether or not it is doing anything or not. Since I have had my Mac, I have had no popups, Apple hasn't asked me once if I was sure I wanted to do anything even though I always clicked the box that says don't ask me again, and I have not had one problem. (waiting for computer to explode before I get done typing)
FYI- before you computer nerds reply, I admit I am a computer Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). I can see where you doodz that know how to fix and upgrade computers and stuff would hate Apple. :cheers:
:users: <------ me but without that big box underneath my monitor and with a nice flat screen monitor and elite magic mouse.
I used macs for a couple years. If you are a computer Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and won't be using it for much more than web surfing, it's probably great for you. If you're doing anything more involved than that, I found Macs to be seriously limited and have serious flaws when it comes time to do stuff you need to. Some of the stuff you talked about is just because it's an open system. If PC's shipped with just a handful of configurations, there would be no need for it to have custom drivers or anything. I would much rather have the ability to have the most up to date hardware and advanced drivers capable of basic things Macs are strangely missing.
Post by: pissclams on July 15, 2010, 10:12:14 AM
The best part about Apple is that when you buy something from them, it just fracking works. It just works. You take it out of the box, plug in a couple of cords, and go. Not 16 cords, 13 disks, 184 drivers, then anti virus that you have no idea whether or not it is doing anything or not. Since I have had my Mac, I have had no popups, Apple hasn't asked me once if I was sure I wanted to do anything even though I always clicked the box that says don't ask me again, and I have not had one problem. (waiting for computer to explode before I get done typing)
FYI- before you computer nerds reply, I admit I am a computer Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). I can see where you doodz that know how to fix and upgrade computers and stuff would hate Apple. :cheers:
:users: <------ me but without that big box underneath my monitor and with a nice flat screen monitor and elite magic mouse.
I used macs for a couple years. If you are a computer Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and won't be using it for much more than web surfing, it's probably great for you. If you're doing anything more involved than that, I found Macs to be seriously limited and have serious flaws when it comes time to do stuff you need to. Some of the stuff you talked about is just because it's an open system. If PC's shipped with just a handful of configurations, there would be no need for it to have custom drivers or anything. I would much rather have the ability to have the most up to date hardware and advanced drivers capable of basic things Macs are strangely missing.
yup, Macs are not good for anything more involved than web surfing. you can't make this crap up folks!The best part about Apple is that when you buy something from them, it just fracking works. It just works. You take it out of the box, plug in a couple of cords, and go. Not 16 cords, 13 disks, 184 drivers, then anti virus that you have no idea whether or not it is doing anything or not. Since I have had my Mac, I have had no popups, Apple hasn't asked me once if I was sure I wanted to do anything even though I always clicked the box that says don't ask me again, and I have not had one problem. (waiting for computer to explode before I get done typing)
FYI- before you computer nerds reply, I admit I am a computer Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). I can see where you doodz that know how to fix and upgrade computers and stuff would hate Apple. :cheers:
:users: <------ me but without that big box underneath my monitor and with a nice flat screen monitor and elite magic mouse.
I used macs for a couple years. If you are a computer Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and won't be using it for much more than web surfing, it's probably great for you. If you're doing anything more involved than that, I found Macs to be seriously limited and have serious flaws when it comes time to do stuff you need to. Some of the stuff you talked about is just because it's an open system. If PC's shipped with just a handful of configurations, there would be no need for it to have custom drivers or anything. I would much rather have the ability to have the most up to date hardware and advanced drivers capable of basic things Macs are strangely missing.
pfffffft. Hey Hemmy. How is Gilbert and that gay guy that can throw the javelin real far?evga :lol:
Best customer service, and best warranty, by far. Last ASUS RMA I had was sent back with physical damage.The best part about Apple is that when you buy something from them, it just fracking works. It just works. You take it out of the box, plug in a couple of cords, and go. Not 16 cords, 13 disks, 184 drivers, then anti virus that you have no idea whether or not it is doing anything or not. Since I have had my Mac, I have had no popups, Apple hasn't asked me once if I was sure I wanted to do anything even though I always clicked the box that says don't ask me again, and I have not had one problem. (waiting for computer to explode before I get done typing)
FYI- before you computer nerds reply, I admit I am a computer Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). I can see where you doodz that know how to fix and upgrade computers and stuff would hate Apple. :cheers:
:users: <------ me but without that big box underneath my monitor and with a nice flat screen monitor and elite magic mouse.
Pop ups are not related to the operating system, Macs can get viruses too, and no hardware can function without drivers, drivers are ALWAYS required.
I know, I know I am definitely taking the bait. :bait: :bait: :bait: :bait: :bait: :bait: (<- except biting)
holy rough ridin' crap that's a great post
lamar
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Post by: chum1 on July 15, 2010, 10:40:37 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38260210/ns/technology_and_science-wireless/
Post by: pissclams on July 15, 2010, 10:54:04 AM
Post by: ew2x4 on July 15, 2010, 11:35:13 AM
yup, Macs are not good for anything more involved than web surfing. you can't make this crap up folks!The best part about Apple is that when you buy something from them, it just fracking works. It just works. You take it out of the box, plug in a couple of cords, and go. Not 16 cords, 13 disks, 184 drivers, then anti virus that you have no idea whether or not it is doing anything or not. Since I have had my Mac, I have had no popups, Apple hasn't asked me once if I was sure I wanted to do anything even though I always clicked the box that says don't ask me again, and I have not had one problem. (waiting for computer to explode before I get done typing)
FYI- before you computer nerds reply, I admit I am a computer Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). I can see where you doodz that know how to fix and upgrade computers and stuff would hate Apple. :cheers:
:users: <------ me but without that big box underneath my monitor and with a nice flat screen monitor and elite magic mouse.
I used macs for a couple years. If you are a computer Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and won't be using it for much more than web surfing, it's probably great for you. If you're doing anything more involved than that, I found Macs to be seriously limited and have serious flaws when it comes time to do stuff you need to. Some of the stuff you talked about is just because it's an open system. If PC's shipped with just a handful of configurations, there would be no need for it to have custom drivers or anything. I would much rather have the ability to have the most up to date hardware and advanced drivers capable of basic things Macs are strangely missing.
Not for anything I used them for. Architecture, graphic design (despite them being popular in this field, I'll argue to the death that they're awful for this), 3D modeling, etc. It proved to lack basic necessary features and grew incredibly unstable when you taxed the system regularly. I'm sure they're good for something medium to high end. I do not know what it is.
Post by: pissclams on July 15, 2010, 11:48:01 AM
Post by: AbeFroman on July 15, 2010, 12:12:29 PM
:chainsaw:
Post by: Stupid Fitz on July 15, 2010, 12:15:01 PM
They knew. Will it affect perception of the brand much?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38260210/ns/technology_and_science-wireless/
I picked mine up the other day. The signal monitor does change quite a bit when I hold it in my left hand. No dropped calls yet. Pretty fantastic upgrade from the 3g IMO. The new screen is amazing. Maybe I'll get free bumpers Friday :pbj:
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 15, 2010, 01:55:47 PM
I don't know much about computers but I do know I just had my second ipod quit on me in the past year and a half. The headphone jack went out both times and I end up with only one headphone working.sansa FTW
:chainsaw:
Post by: ew2x4 on July 15, 2010, 01:56:51 PM
ok cause you said they weren't good for anything much more than web surfing. glad you cleared that up for us :lol:
I'm still not convinced that they're not.
Post by: pissclams on July 15, 2010, 02:04:35 PM
ok hemmyok cause you said they weren't good for anything much more than web surfing. glad you cleared that up for us :lol:
I'm still not convinced that they're not.
Post by: ew2x4 on July 15, 2010, 02:20:46 PM
ok hemmyok cause you said they weren't good for anything much more than web surfing. glad you cleared that up for us :lol:
I'm still not convinced that they're not.
hemmy- hates anything he doesn't have
me- hates things if I have good reason to after I've used them for years
Post by: pissclams on July 22, 2010, 03:23:21 PM
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/secunia-ranks-apple-first-in-software-insecurity-safari-said-to/
Post by: hemmy on July 23, 2010, 08:50:00 AM
Post by: The Big Train on September 09, 2014, 11:32:46 AM
Post by: hemmy on September 09, 2014, 02:28:45 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on September 09, 2014, 03:44:24 PM
I imagine it looks like this.
https://warosu.org/data/ck/img/0054/21/1399666045375.jpg (https://warosu.org/data/ck/img/0054/21/1399666045375.jpg)
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Post by: Skipper44 on September 09, 2014, 04:20:02 PM
Secunia ranks Apple first in software insecurity, Safari said to have AutoFill vulnerabilitylol
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/secunia-ranks-apple-first-in-software-insecurity-safari-said-to/
Post by: bones129 on September 10, 2014, 12:02:52 AM
Post by: The Big Train on October 16, 2014, 11:52:59 PM
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 16, 2014, 11:58:06 PM
watching the apple keynote for OSX Yosemite and iPad Air 2 :surprised:
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Don't know what that means but if you're in Yosemite you should take it to the vision quest thread. :love:
Post by: mocat on October 17, 2014, 08:43:30 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 17, 2014, 08:48:53 PM
Post by: The Big Train on September 09, 2015, 01:13:34 PM
the new iPad pro looks incredible, still waiting on new OSX, iOS, and iPhone tho :impatient:
Post by: pissclams on September 09, 2015, 01:37:30 PM
Post by: The1BigWillie on September 09, 2015, 01:38:20 PM
Post by: The Big Train on September 09, 2015, 01:43:04 PM
what looks incredible about the ipad pro?
everything, clams, everything :horrorsurprise:
Post by: pissclams on September 09, 2015, 01:44:32 PM
Post by: The Big Train on September 09, 2015, 01:48:53 PM
Post by: steve dave on September 09, 2015, 02:05:33 PM
Post by: pissclams on September 09, 2015, 02:33:16 PM
:lol: Ok
you guys. quick computer sciency questio- should i run the twitter app on my regular ipad or my ipad pro? imagine what the twitter feed will look like on a bigger screen. it will be bigger and pro.
Post by: hemmy on September 09, 2015, 02:47:39 PM
Post by: The Big Train on September 09, 2015, 03:26:07 PM
Post by: chum1 on September 09, 2015, 03:27:28 PM
Post by: The Big Train on September 09, 2015, 03:37:23 PM
Post by: Trim on September 09, 2015, 03:42:09 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on September 09, 2015, 03:43:55 PM
Post by: stunted on September 09, 2015, 03:46:49 PM
Post by: hemmy on September 09, 2015, 03:48:54 PM
here's the thing with Apple, their products are at the pinnacle of the technology bubble and it's much less of a pain in the ass to run windows on Apple than the other way around
What? :lol:
Post by: The Big Train on September 09, 2015, 03:51:26 PM
here's the thing with Apple, their products are at the pinnacle of the technology bubble and it's much less of a pain in the ass to run windows on Apple than the other way around
What? :lol:
which part do you not understand?
Post by: hemmy on September 09, 2015, 03:57:43 PM
Post by: The Big Train on September 09, 2015, 04:03:08 PM
Everything. Please try and word that more coherently.
I just re-read it and I think it sounds just fine, thanks for the input tho :thumbs:
Post by: hemmy on September 09, 2015, 04:09:46 PM
Post by: AppleJack on September 09, 2015, 04:13:38 PM
Post by: Trim on September 09, 2015, 04:17:37 PM
I need a new standard ipad. I have the ipad 3. Looked at getting the ipad air 2 a few months ago but figured there'd be an ipad air 3 soon enough. Is there?
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So, no? Should I go grab an ipad air 2 as they start having all sorts of price reductions leading up to this new space monster of an ipad?
Post by: Dub on September 09, 2015, 04:18:29 PM
Post by: The Big Train on September 09, 2015, 04:24:27 PM
I need a new standard ipad. I have the ipad 3. Looked at getting the ipad air 2 a few months ago but figured there'd be an ipad air 3 soon enough. Is there?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa.abcnews.com%2Fimages%2FTechnology%2FAP_apple_event_ipad_evolution_jef_150909_4x3_992.jpg&hash=fb9204f97153bf7cfdedca91ba03636cdca8e614)
So, no? Should I go grab an ipad air 2 as they start having all sorts of price reductions leading up to this new space monster of an ipad?
their next release of stuff probably won't be till spring, and that's usually their MacBook/iMac times. so they probably won't release an air 3 until next year around this time. So yeah, probably just get the air 2
Post by: Trim on September 09, 2015, 04:30:01 PM
their next release of stuff probably won't be till spring, and that's usually their MacBook/iMac times. so they probably won't release an air 3 until next year around this time. So yeah, probably just get the air 2
Well, damn. I could've had it by now; there have been a few times over summer when they were $100 or $125 off. I hope those will pop up again now if stores think nobody will buy one when there's a PRO on the way.
Post by: The Big Train on September 09, 2015, 04:35:03 PM
their next release of stuff probably won't be till spring, and that's usually their MacBook/iMac times. so they probably won't release an air 3 until next year around this time. So yeah, probably just get the air 2
Well, damn. I could've had it by now; there have been a few times over summer when they were $100 or $125 off. I hope those will pop up again now if stores think nobody will buy one when there's a PRO on the way.
maybe, but the pro seems geared more towards the high end user or business class to start. they may drop prices but it probably won't be until Black Friday or so I would think.
Post by: Trim on September 09, 2015, 04:57:10 PM
their next release of stuff probably won't be till spring, and that's usually their MacBook/iMac times. so they probably won't release an air 3 until next year around this time. So yeah, probably just get the air 2
Well, damn. I could've had it by now; there have been a few times over summer when they were $100 or $125 off. I hope those will pop up again now if stores think nobody will buy one when there's a PRO on the way.
maybe, but the pro seems geared more towards the high end user or business class to start. they may drop prices but it probably won't be until Black Friday or so I would think.
I mean sporadic weekend sales at Target and Best Buy types, not an across-the-board price drop.
Post by: Trim on September 09, 2015, 05:07:01 PM
Quote from: tracz
Did they announce a new dad phone? Get it? I don't do social media.
Post by: chum1 on September 09, 2015, 05:42:38 PM
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/a-laymans-guide-to-the-new-iphones-and-apples-other-ne-1729643905
Post by: The Big Train on September 09, 2015, 05:55:07 PM
Post by: pissclams on September 09, 2015, 06:42:51 PM
did you guys read what they said about the surface :lol: clams?? :lol:the ipad pro is priced to compete with the surface pro son, not the surface. try to keep up with the true computer elites in this thread
Post by: The Big Train on September 09, 2015, 06:45:13 PM
Post by: pissclams on September 09, 2015, 06:47:35 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 09, 2015, 06:48:39 PM
did you guys read what they said about the surface :lol: clams?? :lol:the ipad pro is priced to compete with the surface pro son, not the surface. try to keep up with the true computer elites in this thread
i don't think the it guy knows what rt is
Post by: The Big Train on September 09, 2015, 06:51:43 PM
Post by: Trim on September 28, 2015, 09:36:56 AM
I know I need to sync the new ipad to itunes when I get it. Does it work having 2 different ipads sync'd w/my single itunes?
I know I'll need to take the new one into verizon and have them adjust sim cards or something so my new one has the cell service.
I know I'll need to go back to best buy to get a case and screen protector for the new one that I'd have had shipped too but I like to pay them $20 to the act of getting that screen protector on perfect.
What sequence do I do those 3 things in? Thinking it has to be the order I put them in, but I want to make sure everything is as I expect it will be before I eff w/the ipad so that I can return it if my ideal scenario isn't going to play out.
Post by: pissclams on September 28, 2015, 09:38:56 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 28, 2015, 09:48:17 AM
Post by: Trim on September 28, 2015, 09:50:15 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 28, 2015, 09:52:29 AM
Post by: Trim on September 28, 2015, 09:53:47 AM
Do you regularly try to use your keys as a stylus?
I don't even know what this means.
Post by: SdK on September 28, 2015, 10:17:37 AM
Post by: Trim on September 28, 2015, 10:20:40 AM
Post by: Trim on September 28, 2015, 10:26:13 AM
One more thing - I've got hella recordings on the old one in the "notability" app. I don't need or want them on the new one. I'd actually like to get them off the old one and saved on my work computer. What's the best way to do that?
Getting them all off my old ipad won't be important though if I can get every non-work thing off my old one and onto my new one, and the old one will then have plenty of free space to be exclusively my work ipad.
Post by: Trim on September 28, 2015, 10:27:04 AM
Post by: pissclams on September 28, 2015, 10:34:34 AM
Do you regularly try to use your keys as a stylus?i use my dremel tool as a stylus, works great. no scratches though b/c screen protector
Post by: _33 on September 28, 2015, 10:42:59 AM
Post by: The Big Train on September 28, 2015, 12:38:58 PM
screen protectors are a fabricated industry IMO, unless you do what lib said or take it swimming, you don't need them. when you restore an iCloud account on a new device it pulls everything over, once it's done you can just delete the stuff you don't need anymore. Just make sure you have everything backed up before you restore an iTunes account to a new device.
Post by: Trim on September 28, 2015, 12:47:37 PM
I've generally always declined anything iCloud I see in order to avoid any nudes issues, so I don't know if that'll do much. Is there no way to easily see on my computer screen what's saved on the old ipad when it's plugged into the computer, and then be able to save or delete stuff as I see fit that way?
I still don't know what lib was talking about. I regularly bazooka joe the ipad from my desk to my couch and leave it in places there it's at risk of falling, and I always see pictures of people's shattered screens, so for $30 I figured it give me confidence even if false. For my purposes, I should still get the apple smart case for it or at least the smart cover, no? Keep in mind it's essentially free w/all the best buy and credit card point finagling I've done.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 28, 2015, 01:04:12 PM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on September 29, 2015, 08:36:56 PM
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk
Post by: pissclams on September 29, 2015, 09:32:33 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on September 29, 2015, 09:37:16 PM
says greg with the galaxy s5 :lol:
:lol:
Post by: The Big Train on September 29, 2015, 09:52:40 PM
says greg with the galaxy s5 :lol:
:lol:
:lol:
Post by: Tobias on September 29, 2015, 10:00:33 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 29, 2015, 10:02:22 PM
Post by: Tobias on September 29, 2015, 10:04:10 PM
Post by: michigancat on September 29, 2015, 10:09:33 PM
Post by: pissclams on September 29, 2015, 10:11:41 PM
like, faster than greg can turn on his s5 :lol:
Post by: michigancat on September 29, 2015, 10:16:08 PM
i actually like it b/c of its simplicity. i use it when i need to jot something down really quickly and you can get in/out of that app really quickly.
yeah I'm sure it's great I just can't believe how ugly it is and expect more
Post by: treysolid on September 29, 2015, 11:23:16 PM
Post by: pissclams on September 30, 2015, 10:30:05 AM
it's meant for what i use it for, if you're looking for MS Project functionality, you're knocking on the wrong door, bubi actually like it b/c of its simplicity. i use it when i need to jot something down really quickly and you can get in/out of that app really quickly.
yeah I'm sure it's great I just can't believe how ugly it is and expect more
Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2015, 10:32:26 AM
Post by: pissclams on September 30, 2015, 10:34:19 AM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 30, 2015, 10:50:18 AM
Post by: mocat on September 30, 2015, 10:51:17 AM
i use my notepad app to jot down where i parked my car at the airport. it works well 100% of the time no bugs.
which is uglier? an old parking garage, or the notepad app?
Post by: steve dave on September 30, 2015, 10:51:51 AM
i use my notepad app to jot down where i parked my car at the airport. it works well 100% of the time no bugs.
I take a picture of the sign nearest my spot, hotel room numbers, etc. very clean interface, etc.
Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2015, 11:00:09 AM
i use my notepad app to jot down where i parked my car at the airport. it works well 100% of the time no bugs.
I take a picture of the sign nearest my spot, hotel room numbers, etc. very clean interface, etc.
me too! Also handy for wifi passwords at hotels.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 30, 2015, 11:01:31 AM
i use my notepad app to jot down where i parked my car at the airport. it works well 100% of the time no bugs.
which is uglier? an old parking garage, or the notepad app?
i park at economy usually so its a toss up.
i use my notepad app to jot down where i parked my car at the airport. it works well 100% of the time no bugs.
I take a picture of the sign nearest my spot, hotel room numbers, etc. very clean interface, etc.
i generally just try to remember hotel numbers or get drunk and ask the person at the front desk. i should start using notepad for this.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 30, 2015, 11:02:08 AM
what a world we live in. GO NOTEPAD!
Post by: SdK on September 30, 2015, 11:37:54 AM
Post by: Canary on September 30, 2015, 11:41:30 AM
I use a shuttle service at the airport that delivers me back to my parking spot.i use my notepad app to jot down where i parked my car at the airport. it works well 100% of the time no bugs.
which is uglier? an old parking garage, or the notepad app?
i park at economy usually so its a toss up.i use my notepad app to jot down where i parked my car at the airport. it works well 100% of the time no bugs.
I take a picture of the sign nearest my spot, hotel room numbers, etc. very clean interface, etc.
i generally just try to remember hotel numbers or get drunk and ask the person at the front desk. i should start using notepad for this.
Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2015, 11:43:31 AM
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oh, i didn't realize you were going that far back. now i better understand the lol worthiness
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My dog was so thrown off by the sounds coming out of the mustache guy.