Post by: _33 on April 22, 2014, 03:36:37 PM
Also I know some people will say to just pay someone or whatever because ksu and being rich but I really want to do it myself.
Post by: kso_FAN on April 22, 2014, 03:37:35 PM
Post by: CNS on April 22, 2014, 03:38:49 PM
summer: hire someone to make sure sod takes root and stays happy
Fall: hire someone to feed your new sod
Winter: hire someone to winterize your sod.
next spring: hire someone to feed that grass with preventative stuff in the feed
Next summer and there after: hire someone to keep up with the right feed and treatment recommended.
Post by: CNS on April 22, 2014, 03:39:44 PM
Doing it yourself is a mother and will take you a full year to two to get stabilized.
Post by: Tobias on April 22, 2014, 03:39:49 PM
Post by: Tobias on April 22, 2014, 03:40:22 PM
Post by: CNS on April 22, 2014, 03:42:59 PM
That said, if you weed and feed a lawn full of weeds, you will end up with a muddy nothing in summer.
It all depends on how prolific the weeds and clover are. If it is most of the yard, just let it be for now then tackle it in late summer/early fall, kill it, verticut like a mother, seed, and spread some compost on top of the seed, then feed it like crazy and make sure it stays moist. Once you have cut it several times, start feeding the roots and winterize it well.
Post by: _33 on April 22, 2014, 03:43:38 PM
folks smarter than me, is it too late for him to put down the crabgrass preventer+fertilizer stage? someone at work told me to do that a few weeks ago so i did that. i think at some point in may you're supposed to do another round of weed preventer+fertilizer or something. i think there's like 4 stages to do. my lawn looks like crap though so probably don't listen to me
I bought a giant bag of weed and feed stuff. Was going to mow and put it down tonight because it's supposed to rain this week a lot and I heard that is good for the fertilizer. But will it fertilize all my other types of weeds that are not crabgrass? This stuff is so confusing.
Post by: IPA4Me on April 22, 2014, 03:43:49 PM
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 22, 2014, 03:44:18 PM
Post by: CNS on April 22, 2014, 03:44:54 PM
folks smarter than me, is it too late for him to put down the crabgrass preventer+fertilizer stage? someone at work told me to do that a few weeks ago so i did that. i think at some point in may you're supposed to do another round of weed preventer+fertilizer or something. i think there's like 4 stages to do. my lawn looks like crap though so probably don't listen to me
I bought a giant bag of weed and feed stuff. Was going to mow and put it down tonight because it's supposed to rain this week a lot and I heard that is good for the fertilizer. But will it fertilize all my other types of weeds that are not crabgrass? This stuff is so confusing.
If weeding and feeding, I believe it is best right after a rain. you want those granular to stick to the weed's leaves. If you put it down first, it will run down hill and the bottom of your yard will be awesome while the rest of it mocks the crap out of you all summer.
Post by: Tobias on April 22, 2014, 03:45:45 PM
tobytobin.com
:surprised:
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 22, 2014, 03:47:50 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on April 22, 2014, 03:48:57 PM
Spring: hire someone to kill it all and sod your yard
summer: hire someone to make sure sod takes root and stays happy
Fall: hire someone to feed your new sod
Winter: hire someone to winterize your sod.
next spring: hire someone to feed that grass with preventative stuff in the feed
Next summer and there after: hire someone to keep up with the right feed and treatment recommended.
We pay someone to do it and they are excellent.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 22, 2014, 03:56:39 PM
your yard sounds pretty far gone though so i'd honestly/maybe just ride the spring/summer out. then kill your entire yard, wait a month and then plant new grass this fall. by next summer you'll be good. this summer is already a waste imo. also take pictures to show us all. by that i mean go home tonight and take pictures of your yard and then post them.
Post by: Tobias on April 22, 2014, 04:01:29 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 22, 2014, 04:04:51 PM
Post by: Tobias on April 22, 2014, 04:06:39 PM
i used the long metal tool thing to turn my sprinkler water back on the other day. :gocho:
is there anything you don't beat with a nightstick?
Post by: Lefty on April 22, 2014, 04:08:47 PM
I get lawn guilt any time I drive up to my home and see how terrible it looks. My dad's and brother's lawns are lush and dark green. Mine's got dandelions, bare patches and the worst part, my dog has basically ruined the entire backyard. I don't want to dislike my dog, but i've secretly gotten mad at him for walking around. That's not fair.
I'm tired of the lawn guilt and hopefully this propels me to be a better lawn owner. Cathartic.
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 22, 2014, 04:13:20 PM
You want to spray it on a day that's a little drier/warmer, to make sure the weeds are thirsty enough to take a big drink, you don't need much.
It will kill every dandelion in your yard within a week and leave all the grass unharmed... it doesn't kill the clover but it will limit its growth. Be careful around non-grass you don't want to kill, including small trees... its safe on grass, but not anything else.
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 22, 2014, 04:13:56 PM
tobytobin.com
x2
I've done it both ways, DIY, and hiring someone. To maintain I do a split.
_33 post up some pics. No matter which way you go it can probably look at lot better by this winter, and then really good next summer.
Post by: raquetcat on April 22, 2014, 04:27:03 PM
Post by: CNS on April 22, 2014, 04:55:29 PM
If you have a bunch of really bad clay, you will want to do some soil ammending before spending much time, effort, or money on the grass. Grass is super hard to keep alive in heavy clay during Kansas summer.
Post by: Trogdor on April 22, 2014, 05:16:06 PM
POS neighbors with all of the dandelions! :curse:
Kill your neighbors? :dunno:
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 22, 2014, 06:11:43 PM
i used the long metal tool thing to turn my sprinkler water back on the other day. :gocho:
one of the most requested and hard to find pieces of equipment at your local hardware store.
Post by: Benja on April 22, 2014, 06:27:23 PM
Post by: chunkles on April 22, 2014, 06:37:48 PM
my yard is the worst. Looks like crap. Come by sometime and see my shitty piece of crap yard. I hate.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 22, 2014, 07:34:46 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 22, 2014, 08:01:09 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 22, 2014, 08:06:04 PM
Post by: _33 on April 22, 2014, 08:17:36 PM
tobytobin.com
x2
I've done it both ways, DIY, and hiring someone. To maintain I do a split.
_33 post up some pics. No matter which way you go it can probably look at lot better by this winter, and then really good next summer.
I'll try to post some pics tomorrow.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 22, 2014, 08:49:54 PM
im not a lawn guy but having read through this thread at a visceral distance, the answer, it appears, as it is with most things, is the more chemicals, the better
and water. lots of water. I do the bare minimum to not be "that guy" in my neighborhood and have the bad yard. ten minutes per zone every other day in the summer if no rain. crabgrass preventer and then later spot spray. not that tough but still annoying.
Post by: slobber on April 22, 2014, 09:02:30 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 22, 2014, 09:11:55 PM
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Post by: WonderMeal on April 22, 2014, 09:15:00 PM
If you are interested in something easier and/or want to go organic, the guy from the radio show You Bet Your Garden has a million lawn-related links.
This article seems to address your specific issue: http://www.gardensalive.com/article.asp?ai=544 (http://www.gardensalive.com/article.asp?ai=544)
This page has a bunch of other articles: http://www.gardensalive.com/article.asp?ai=492#G (http://www.gardensalive.com/article.asp?ai=492#G) Just CTRL+F for "lawn" or "grass" and you'll see a million different topics, though a lot of the advice is the same.
His advice basically boils down to a few things:
1) Finding the right type of grass for your climate is important.
2) Getting a mulching mower, it will feed your lawn throughout the year.
3) Keeping your grass at 3" or higher helps to avoid weeds and lets you mow less, since the grass will grow much slower. (I know BIG GRASS and BIG MOWER says this is too high, but it works.)
4) Apply corn gluten meal in the Spring and compost whenever it's appropriate for your specific type of grass.
=MODS?=, feel free to move this to the San Francisco Things thread.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 22, 2014, 09:16:28 PM
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 22, 2014, 09:18:49 PM
Post by: slobber on April 22, 2014, 09:23:33 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: Mr Bread on April 22, 2014, 09:30:21 PM
Post by: sys on April 22, 2014, 09:36:45 PM
Post by: CNS on April 22, 2014, 09:37:11 PM
Problem here is that golf course supposedly isn't the best at establishing roots and your new seed will get a nice tall blade on it just in time for it to be mowed three or four times before KS heat kicks in. Then due to the lack of a solid root system you will be watering your ass off every other day trying to keep the slender tender blade from drying out and dying. You can do it, but will spend a lot on water and Golf course and still lose some if not a bunch of it only to reseed again in the fall.
Also, if you are all in for this now, get a metal garden rake and some Advil and go rake as much thatch and crap out of the yard now. Try to scratch the lawn heavily to expose soil below and break it up slighly before starting the veritcutting. Bag up the thatch and weeds that come up. This will likely make you wish you were dead if your lawn is of any size at all.
Post by: slobber on April 22, 2014, 09:50:19 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: puniraptor on April 22, 2014, 11:32:29 PM
TruGreen...LoL
Gonna win 'em all!
Satanist :sdeek:
Post by: slobber on April 23, 2014, 07:36:18 AM
How the hell else you gonna get green grass?TruGreen...LoL
Gonna win 'em all!
Satanist :sdeek:
Post by: Bloodfart on April 23, 2014, 07:58:26 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on April 23, 2014, 08:09:24 AM
Is tilling it up before putting down the sod all I need to do or I need to fertilize it too?
Post by: steve dave on April 23, 2014, 08:10:20 AM
Post by: slobber on April 23, 2014, 08:22:26 AM
getting new sod at the new house in like 3 weeks. what do I need to do to it?Water it. Super easy!
Post by: Institutional Control on April 23, 2014, 08:27:23 AM
Hey mods, please change my name to steve dave. Thanks, in advance.
Post by: steve dave on April 23, 2014, 08:27:55 AM
getting new sod at the new house in like 3 weeks. what do I need to do to it?Water it. Super easy!
is there a nationwide company for the fertilizing/aerating/etc. that I should use or is a local place better?
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 23, 2014, 08:29:47 AM
Oh wow. I guess you have to be named steve dave to get any helpful advice around here. Thanks, dobber.
Hey mods, please change my name to steve dave. Thanks, in advance.
hopefully this helps. anything more would have required a work order to be filled out and saul is out of the office until next tuesday.
Post by: kso_FAN on April 23, 2014, 08:31:55 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on April 23, 2014, 08:33:28 AM
Oh wow. I guess you have to be named steve dave to get any helpful advice around here. Thanks, dobber.
Hey mods, please change my name to steve dave. Thanks, in advance.
hopefully this helps. anything more would have required a work order to be filled out and saul is out of the office until next tuesday.
Thanks, RowdyBoyy.
I can feel the love and admiration of being a steve dave already.
Post by: Cire on April 23, 2014, 08:34:07 AM
there are easy to follow seeding/fertilizing schedules to follow.
Post by: kso_FAN on April 23, 2014, 08:37:27 AM
Post by: Katpappy on April 23, 2014, 08:39:05 AM
:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :Rusty:Oh wow. I guess you have to be named steve dave to get any helpful advice around here. Thanks, dobber.
Hey mods, please change my name to steve dave. Thanks, in advance.
hopefully this helps. anything more would have required a work order to be filled out and saul is out of the office until next tuesday.
Thanks, RowdyBoyy.
I can feel the love and admiration of being a steve dave already.
Post by: slobber on April 23, 2014, 08:39:18 AM
Oh wow. I guess you have to be named steve dave to get any helpful advice around here. Thanks, dobber.If you are 33, I asked you a question and you did not respond. WHERE DO YOU LIVE?
Hey mods, please change my name to steve dave. Thanks, in advance.
Also, sd asked a super pud question. Lawn rennovation is something much more in depth. One of the answers could be: Hire somebody to sod it. Then water it! ADVICE GIVEN!
Post by: _33 on April 23, 2014, 08:41:16 AM
Oh wow. I guess you have to be named steve dave to get any helpful advice around here. Thanks, dobber.If you are 33, I asked you a question and you did not respond. WHERE DO YOU LIVE?
Hey mods, please change my name to steve dave. Thanks, in advance.
St. Joseph MO
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 23, 2014, 08:42:26 AM
I really enjoy mowing. I've got a fairly big yard and Craftsman rider and I don't mind spending the hour a week riding and 15-30 mins trimming. But all this raking, verticut, seeding, fertilizing stuff sounds like it will take time away from other things I enjoy. Man. I just did a weed and feed treatment and will probably do another in a couple of weeks and see what happens. I'm sure it will need a lot of work in the fall.
that's a lot of feed. also, did you really weed and feed two weeks ago or was it crabgrass preventer? also, maybe just spot spray.
Post by: Katpappy on April 23, 2014, 08:43:03 AM
Hey wait, watts going on here. This must be a trick post, and somehow Dobber must be involved. :horrorsurprise::love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :Rusty:Oh wow. I guess you have to be named steve dave to get any helpful advice around here. Thanks, dobber.
Hey mods, please change my name to steve dave. Thanks, in advance.
hopefully this helps. anything more would have required a work order to be filled out and saul is out of the office until next tuesday.
Thanks, RowdyBoyy.
I can feel the love and admiration of being a steve dave already.
Post by: kso_FAN on April 23, 2014, 08:44:21 AM
I really enjoy mowing. I've got a fairly big yard and Craftsman rider and I don't mind spending the hour a week riding and 15-30 mins trimming. But all this raking, verticut, seeding, fertilizing stuff sounds like it will take time away from other things I enjoy. Man. I just did a weed and feed treatment and will probably do another in a couple of weeks and see what happens. I'm sure it will need a lot of work in the fall.
that's a lot of feed. also, did you really weed and feed two weeks ago or was it crabgrass preventer? also, maybe just spot spray.
Yes (weed and feed). I read somewhere that is really the only thing you can do this time of year. :dunno:
Post by: slobber on April 23, 2014, 08:45:21 AM
Don't hire a mow and blow guy to do your fertilizer and chemical work. As a general rule, they are not as compitent as a lawn care company. Local, regional, or national doesn't really matter. A company mentioned earlier might be big, but they suck in some areas and consistency is not their strong suit.getting new sod at the new house in like 3 weeks. what do I need to do to it?Water it. Super easy!
is there a nationwide company for the fertilizing/aerating/etc. that I should use or is a local place better?
What I would do is keep my eyes open and see who the people with the best yards are using. Might be national, might be local. Tell them you want your grub treatment done in early July, regardless of what they say their schedule is. DO NOT LET THEM PUT IT OUT IN MAY! Also, I can tell you what product to use for best results, but that might be a conflict of interest. Just ask for the most tested and proven grub insecticide on the market.
Post by: Institutional Control on April 23, 2014, 08:48:01 AM
Oh wow. I guess you have to be named steve dave to get any helpful advice around here. Thanks, dobber.If you are 33, I asked you a question and you did not respond. WHERE DO YOU LIVE?
Hey mods, please change my name to steve dave. Thanks, in advance.
Also, sd asked a super pud question. Lawn rennovation is something much more in depth. One of the answers could be: Hire somebody to sod it. Then water it! ADVICE GIVEN!
I live in Texas.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 23, 2014, 08:52:05 AM
I really enjoy mowing. I've got a fairly big yard and Craftsman rider and I don't mind spending the hour a week riding and 15-30 mins trimming. But all this raking, verticut, seeding, fertilizing stuff sounds like it will take time away from other things I enjoy. Man. I just did a weed and feed treatment and will probably do another in a couple of weeks and see what happens. I'm sure it will need a lot of work in the fall.
that's a lot of feed. also, did you really weed and feed two weeks ago or was it crabgrass preventer? also, maybe just spot spray.
Yes (weed and feed). I read somewhere that is really the only thing you can do this time of year. :dunno:
i'm far from an expert but if you already did a weed and feed granule then i would just get a weed killer spray of some sort and then wait a couple of days after a mowning (easier to tell the weeds from the grass) and walk around your yard spraying everything that looks like a weed. wait a week and then do it again. i'm not sure i'd use a weed and feed granule and then turn around and use it again in a couple of weeks. seems like feed over kill. dunno. again, i'm not an expert.
Post by: kso_FAN on April 23, 2014, 08:57:57 AM
i'm far from an expert but if you already did a weed and feed granule then i would just get a weed killer spray of some sort and then wait a couple of days after a mowning (easier to tell the weeds from the grass) and walk around your yard spraying everything that looks like a weed. wait a week and then do it again. i'm not sure i'd use a weed and feed granule and then turn around and use it again in a couple of weeks. seems like feed over kill. dunno. again, i'm not an expert.
I read some stuff on websites and it seems to be backed up by CNS here:
Too late for prevent, we are in weed and feed mode. Depending on brand, it is suggested that you do 2-4 weed and feeds before moving on to the next step which usually starts in late may to mid june, iirc.
Other gE lawn experts, can you verify? Or is there conflicting information out there? (live in Kansas FWIW)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 23, 2014, 08:59:40 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 23, 2014, 09:02:22 AM
After weed and feed I like to walk around and spot treat the weeds with a spray. Might have to hit some stuff twice but it works. :dunno:
i don't even weed and feed. i just crabgrass and then spot spray but yeah, same thought process. laying down multiple applications of granule weed and feed seems bizarre and unnecessary. again, not an expert.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 23, 2014, 09:04:27 AM
getting new sod at the new house in like 3 weeks. what do I need to do to it?
Spray paint that crap emerald green and chill all summer by the pool.
Post by: yoEMAW on April 23, 2014, 09:05:02 AM
Because k-state.
Post by: CNS on April 23, 2014, 09:06:57 AM
Anyway, The weed and feed schedule is going to be dictated by the brand. I used Scotts last and they recommend three weed and feeds at 4 weeks apart, iirc. They basically state that it takes three to fully kill everything but that you will get some results with just one. I am also not an expert, just regurgitating what I have read and practiced.
Post by: slobber on April 23, 2014, 09:07:21 AM
Go buy a crabgrass preventer today. Something with pendemethulum (sp?) in it, like Scotts brand Haltz. Get it spread.Oh wow. I guess you have to be named steve dave to get any helpful advice around here. Thanks, dobber.If you are 33, I asked you a question and you did not respond. WHERE DO YOU LIVE?
Hey mods, please change my name to steve dave. Thanks, in advance.
St. Joseph MO
Post by: slobber on April 23, 2014, 09:08:42 AM
Too late for crabgrass preventer to do a great job, but will still help some. I will look to see what your other question may have been.Oh wow. I guess you have to be named steve dave to get any helpful advice around here. Thanks, dobber.If you are 33, I asked you a question and you did not respond. WHERE DO YOU LIVE?
Hey mods, please change my name to steve dave. Thanks, in advance.
Also, sd asked a super pud question. Lawn rennovation is something much more in depth. One of the answers could be: Hire somebody to sod it. Then water it! ADVICE GIVEN!
I live in Texas.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 23, 2014, 09:09:23 AM
Post by: slobber on April 23, 2014, 09:12:05 AM
You will not control all of your crabgrass with a crabgrass preventer at this time of year. Some has already germinated and sprouted. It looks like a very small mouse ear in your lawn, might be underneath the thatch layer. It will control later to emerge crabgrass over the next few weeks. I split shot my crabgrass preventer to give me extended residual. I put a half rate out about 3-4 weeks apart. I don't do a lot for winter annual broadleaf weeds, since they don't really cause that much of a problem.i'm far from an expert but if you already did a weed and feed granule then i would just get a weed killer spray of some sort and then wait a couple of days after a mowning (easier to tell the weeds from the grass) and walk around your yard spraying everything that looks like a weed. wait a week and then do it again. i'm not sure i'd use a weed and feed granule and then turn around and use it again in a couple of weeks. seems like feed over kill. dunno. again, i'm not an expert.
I read some stuff on websites and it seems to be backed up by CNS here:Too late for prevent, we are in weed and feed mode. Depending on brand, it is suggested that you do 2-4 weed and feeds before moving on to the next step which usually starts in late may to mid june, iirc.
Other gE lawn experts, can you verify? Or is there conflicting information out there? (live in Kansas FWIW)
Post by: slobber on April 23, 2014, 09:12:55 AM
Mulitple small apps of feed, one app of weed.After weed and feed I like to walk around and spot treat the weeds with a spray. Might have to hit some stuff twice but it works. :dunno:
i don't even weed and feed. i just crabgrass and then spot spray but yeah, same thought process. laying down multiple applications of granule weed and feed seems bizarre and unnecessary. again, not an expert.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 23, 2014, 09:14:37 AM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 23, 2014, 09:15:28 AM
folks smarter than me, is it too late for him to put down the crabgrass preventer+fertilizer stage? someone at work told me to do that a few weeks ago so i did that. i think at some point in may you're supposed to do another round of weed preventer+fertilizer or something. i think there's like 4 stages to do. my lawn looks like crap though so probably don't listen to me
no, this is best done around Easter, at least in Kansas
Post by: slobber on April 23, 2014, 09:15:39 AM
Post by: CNS on April 23, 2014, 09:16:53 AM
Mulitple small apps of feed, one app of weed.After weed and feed I like to walk around and spot treat the weeds with a spray. Might have to hit some stuff twice but it works. :dunno:
i don't even weed and feed. i just crabgrass and then spot spray but yeah, same thought process. laying down multiple applications of granule weed and feed seems bizarre and unnecessary. again, not an expert.
This is good to know. When using something like Scotts, can I hit the Weed and Feed once, then move on to their next step feed early and just hit that multiple times until it gets hot?
Post by: yoEMAW on April 23, 2014, 09:26:10 AM
getting new sod at the new house in like 3 weeks. what do I need to do to it?
The absolute best thing you could do would be to have your soil tested and make amendments before they lay the sod. That will ensure a healthy lawn for literally years to come!
You will have to act fast tho. The soil tests take time. :ohno:
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 23, 2014, 09:29:17 AM
getting new sod at the new house in like 3 weeks. what do I need to do to it?
The absolute best thing you could do would be to have your soil tested and make amendments before they lay the sod. That will ensure a healthy lawn for literally years to come!
You will have to act fast tho. The soil tests take time. :ohno:
If only there were a local institution where the best soil judges in the world were. Damn, T&P's sd
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 23, 2014, 09:45:24 AM
You will not control all of your crabgrass with a crabgrass preventer at this time of year. Some has already germinated and sprouted. It looks like a very small mouse ear in your lawn, might be underneath the thatch layer. It will control later to emerge crabgrass over the next few weeks. I split shot my crabgrass preventer to give me extended residual. I put a half rate out about 3-4 weeks apart. I don't do a lot for winter annual broadleaf weeds, since they don't really cause that much of a problem.
you'll still get a lot. then you just spot spray the stuff you were too late to get or the stuff that will emerge later in the year regardless of when you put it down. i laid down crabgrass stuff twice about six weeks apart the other year. guess what? still got crabgrass late in the year around sidewalks, street and driveway. the heat in those areas just degrades the layer of preventer or whatever.
http://www.turffiles.ncsu.edu/PDFFiles/000503/Postemergent_Control_of_Crabgrass_in_Turfgrasses.pdf
also, why do you guys want to feed your crappy yards so much? just really like to mow? sounds horrible.
Post by: Institutional Control on April 23, 2014, 09:52:41 AM
getting new sod at the new house in like 3 weeks. what do I need to do to it?
The absolute best thing you could do would be to have your soil tested and make amendments before they lay the sod. That will ensure a healthy lawn for literally years to come!
You will have to act fast tho. The soil tests take time. :ohno:
If only there were a local institution where the best soil judges in the world were. Damn, T&P's sd
Don't they sell them at Home Depot?
Post by: _33 on April 23, 2014, 10:12:00 AM
Spring
1. Put down crabgrass preventer+fertilizer tonight (weather permitting)
2. Spray lawn with orthro weed b gone broad leaf killer spray
Summer
1. Weed and feed once in mid summer on a very dewy morning
2. Spot spray as needed to control weeds
Fall
1. Use my dad's gas powered dethatcher to dethatch lawn
2. Aerate
3. Overseed
Does anyone want to change or add anything?
Post by: cDubya on April 23, 2014, 10:57:36 AM
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Post by: Tobias on April 23, 2014, 11:01:57 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 23, 2014, 11:11:39 AM
After weed and feed I like to walk around and spot treat the weeds with a spray. Might have to hit some stuff twice but it works. :dunno:
i don't even weed and feed. i just crabgrass and then spot spray but yeah, same thought process. laying down multiple applications of granule weed and feed seems bizarre and unnecessary. again, not an expert.
I'm always too late with the crabgrass preventer. Always. My dad calls me and tells me it's time and I'm like whatever pops you're off your rocker now leave me alone I gotta turn this ish to 11! So ya that's why.
Post by: cDubya on April 23, 2014, 11:48:39 AM
i'm definitely not posting any pics of my lawn now :don'tcare:
Awww, c'mon buddy. That yard has been treated and maintained going on 30 years now. Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither are good looking lawns. Post pics, get advice, enjoy the rewards.
Post by: Cire on April 23, 2014, 11:51:20 AM
4 pages and still no pics? I cant take it anymore...
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I want to walk barefoot on that
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 23, 2014, 11:52:10 AM
4 pages and still no pics? I cant take it anymore...
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I want to walk barefoot on that
AT&T Uverse was made for that lawn.
Post by: Mr Bread on April 23, 2014, 11:53:02 AM
i'm definitely not posting any pics of my lawn now :don'tcare:
Awww, c'mon buddy. That yard has been treated and maintained going on 30 years now. Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither are good looking lawns. Post pics, get advice, enjoy the rewards.
Maybe should spend a little time and money on that shitbox excuse for a road you have there.
Post by: Benja on April 23, 2014, 12:00:44 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on April 23, 2014, 12:04:10 PM
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 23, 2014, 12:14:17 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on April 23, 2014, 12:16:02 PM
i hope you walked over and immediately cut that pampas grass or whatever it is on the left after you took that pic.It's coming down shortly. I like the border it provides and it's not warm enough for growth yet. I usually trim it when I plant tomatoes.
Post by: XocolateThundarr on April 23, 2014, 12:18:49 PM
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Post by: Mr Bread on April 23, 2014, 12:20:11 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 23, 2014, 12:23:54 PM
i hope you walked over and immediately cut that pampas grass or whatever it is on the left after you took that pic.It's coming down shortly. I like the border it provides and it's not warm enough for growth yet. I usually trim it when I plant tomatoes.
i'm not sure you are correct re: not warm enough. also what's that tree in the back right? bradford pear?
Post by: IPA4Me on April 23, 2014, 12:30:02 PM
Our ground temps just hit warm enough to grow the cool weather grass. The pampas likes it a bit warmer. That's been my experience here.i hope you walked over and immediately cut that pampas grass or whatever it is on the left after you took that pic.It's coming down shortly. I like the border it provides and it's not warm enough for growth yet. I usually trim it when I plant tomatoes.
i'm not sure you are correct re: not warm enough. also what's that tree in the back right? bradford pear?
Yes, that is my neighbor's Bradford Pear. They have four in a row going to toward the street.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 23, 2014, 12:38:50 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 23, 2014, 12:43:49 PM
:lol:
Post by: IPA4Me on April 23, 2014, 01:49:34 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on April 23, 2014, 02:17:00 PM
Guise... I need help.
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Post by: Emo EMAW on April 23, 2014, 02:18:25 PM
Post by: CNS on April 23, 2014, 02:19:36 PM
Post by: Gooch on April 23, 2014, 02:29:36 PM
i used the long metal tool thing to turn my sprinkler water back on the other day. :gocho:This is all I am willing to do anymore. The rest is being taken care of by professionals.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 23, 2014, 03:04:57 PM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 23, 2014, 06:20:34 PM
im not a lawn guy but having read through this thread at a visceral distance, the answer, it appears, as it is with most things, is the more chemicals, the better
and water. lots of water. I do the bare minimum to not be "that guy" in my neighborhood and have the bad yard. ten minutes per zone every other day in the summer if no rain. crabgrass preventer and then later spot spray. not that tough but still annoying.
40 minutes once per week is MUCH better than 10 minutes every other day.
Post by: slobber on April 23, 2014, 06:40:35 PM
When I said feed alot, I meant that you feed small amounts several times. Probably half rates of the recommended fertilizer rate.
sd: water the sod every other day for probably 10 days. Then spread it out to every 3rd or 4th day for a couple of weeks. The goal is to water deeper than the roots and allow the soil to start to dry out before watering again. This is to encourage root growth, but do not make a pond in your yard, because that will not encourage root growth.
Everyone needs to know how to make fertilizer calculations. If you by a 26-4-6 fertilizer, that means that 26% of the fertilizer is nitrogen, 4% is phosphorous, 6% is potassium. You shouldn't use more than about 3.5-4 lbs of Nitrgoen per 1,000 sq ft per year. Anything else is wasting and bad for the environment. If you want an example on the calculation, ask mocat or get a KSU degree, it isn't that difficult. (Really, I can walk you through it if necessary. You may want to know that there are 43,560 sq ft/acre if you are a farm kid and want to figure this crap out on a farming scale.)
The zoo was great. I love the rhinos and giraffes, and the grizzly picked his head up and looked at me as if to say...mehhh. Also, there was a baby gorilla and a baby baboon. If I had brought the good camera, they would be great photos for the monkey thread!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 23, 2014, 07:09:33 PM
Post by: slobber on April 23, 2014, 07:25:47 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on April 23, 2014, 07:27:12 PM
Post by: Hoibergs Horrible Heart on April 23, 2014, 07:31:09 PM
Post by: _33 on April 23, 2014, 07:57:14 PM
Post by: sys on April 23, 2014, 09:24:02 PM
1) i have this big bag of 15:15:15 and an urge to put it everywhere (nonlawn, other plant question). is there anything that won't like it?
2) i have white clover in my lawn and want to keep and encourage it. anything i can use to kill other crap that will leave the clover alone?
3) my entire property is infested with more earwigs than anyone would believe possible. any good way to kill them that won't render my edible plants inedible?
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 23, 2014, 09:28:39 PM
dobber, several questions.
1) i have this big bag of 15:15:15 and an urge to put it everywhere (nonlawn, other plant question). is there anything that won't like it?
2) i have white clover in my lawn and want to keep and encourage it. anything i can use to kill other crap that will leave the clover alone?
3) my entire property is infested with more earwigs than anyone would believe possible. any good way to kill them that won't render my edible plants inedible?
3: http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/earwigs-c-147.html
Post by: sys on April 23, 2014, 09:32:50 PM
3: http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/earwigs-c-147.html
that's a great list of stuff that kills insects, but it doesn't provide any information about how they measure on the two criteria i specified - good way to kill lots of earwigs and safe for vertebrates to eat.
Post by: Trim on April 23, 2014, 09:39:40 PM
Post by: puniraptor on April 23, 2014, 10:07:58 PM
He put them in a 5 gal bucket so maybe he will eat them?
Post by: Tobias on April 23, 2014, 10:12:03 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on April 24, 2014, 05:42:36 AM
I witnessed my new neighbor crawl on his hands and knees for 4 hours and dig every single dandelion out of his front yard by the root.That's a lot of useless work if the neighbors have dandelions.
He put them in a 5 gal bucket so maybe he will eat them?
I don't obsess with the weed control because neighbors to the north and west have dandelion farms. One weed n feed application and spot treat along the drive and street a couple of times.
I refuse to live in hoa neighborhood again but do miss the lawn policy. You knew you weren't wasting money on the chemicals. Took less too because the neighbors were controlling their weeds too.
Post by: kso_FAN on April 24, 2014, 06:18:47 AM
Post by: slobber on April 24, 2014, 07:36:53 AM
My lawn is terrible. It makes me feel frustrated. I want to have a nice lawn but right now it is full of weeds and dandelions and lots of those little purple flowers and different types of grasses. What can I do to fix it really quickly with minimal effort. Fertilizer? Weed killer? Weed AND feed? Over seed? Can someone tell me what do to in the spring (now), then in the summer, and then in the fall? Make like a chart that tells me what to do in each season.Put out some crabrass preventer and if you can get a liquid 2,4-D product go out and handspray all of those broadleaves. I think there is a JDL (John Deere Landscape) store in KC, buy the stuff that you can there. Granular broadleaf weedkillers are okay, but they don't do as good of a job as a liquid. If you can find something with 2,4-D and Dicamba (or salt of Dicamba) in it, that will do the best on your broadleaf weeds that are present. I would not spot spray if your yard is in really bad shape. Spray the whole thing to make certain you are killing all of the broadleaves now. Then spot spray throughout the remainder of the spring and summer.
Also I know some people will say to just pay someone or whatever because ksu and being rich but I really want to do it myself.
Get the Crabgrass preventer out now (TODAY!) and then spray the broadleaf weed stuff in a week or two. Fertilize in bewteen the two (or today if you want). (I don't know how big your lawn is and how much time you are going to have.) You will not have a great yard today, but you should try to get the grass you have to grow healthy now and you should start killing weeds ASAP rather than just let crap go for another 4 or 5 months.
That should be a great start. Do not expect a perfect yard this year. Unless you are willing to kill it all, prepare the soil, and lay some sod, that just isn't going to happen.
This fall you can aerate and overseed. (or verticut, which has been mentioned several times)
Post by: slobber on April 24, 2014, 07:54:58 AM
dobber, several questions.
1) i have this big bag of 15:15:15 and an urge to put it everywhere (nonlawn, other plant question). is there anything that won't like it? PROBABLY SOMETHING WON'T LIKE IT- I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL HAVE! YOU SHOULD BE FINE. JUST DON'T POUR IT OUT AT AN INSANE RATE. IT IS JUST FERTILIZER (NUTRIENTS FOUND IN THE SOIL).
2) i have white clover in my lawn and want to keep and encourage it. anything i can use to kill other crap that will leave the clover alone? WHAT?!?!?!?!? I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THIS!!!!! :runaway: (SINCE KC IS KIND OF ON THE N. EDGE OF THE TRANSITION ZONE, YOU CAN FIND SOMETHING IN THE STORE THAT WILL KILL POA (fescue), JUST MAKE CERTAIN IT DOESN'T KILL ANY BROADLEAVES (READ THE LABEL AND SEE IF IT CONTROLS DANDELIONS, IF IT DOES, IT WILL ALSO KILL YOUR WHITE CLOVER) (ARE YOU AN APIARIST?)
3) my entire property is infested with more earwigs than anyone would believe possible. any good way to kill them that won't render my edible plants inedible? SEVIN GRANULES or LIQUID SEVIN AROUND YOUR FOUNDATION. PROBABLY MORE THAN ONE APPLICATION. SEVIN IS REGESTERED TO USE ON MOST FRUITS AND VEGETABLES, WHICH IS WHY I RECOMMENDED IT FOR YOU. LOTS OF PRODUCTS CONTROL EARWIGS.
Post by: slobber on April 24, 2014, 07:56:48 AM
Post by: Tobias on April 24, 2014, 08:05:36 AM
Post by: puniraptor on April 24, 2014, 08:16:13 AM
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maybe! ever had it? any good? worth the effort?
Post by: kso_FAN on April 24, 2014, 08:18:42 AM
maybe! ever had it? any good? worth the effort?
I haven't, it would be interesting though. I just know some old guy that was friends with my dad when I was a kid used to make wine/moonshine from about anything; corn, dandelions, wild berries, etc. But I was like 7 so I never had any.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 24, 2014, 08:21:12 AM
im not a lawn guy but having read through this thread at a visceral distance, the answer, it appears, as it is with most things, is the more chemicals, the better
and water. lots of water. I do the bare minimum to not be "that guy" in my neighborhood and have the bad yard. ten minutes per zone every other day in the summer if no rain. crabgrass preventer and then later spot spray. not that tough but still annoying.
40 minutes once per week is MUCH better than 10 minutes every other day.
my yard has a pretty decent slope so this is the worst possible advice that you could give me. but thanks for the bad advice as always, mikey.
Post by: Cire on April 24, 2014, 08:22:22 AM
Post by: Cire on April 24, 2014, 08:22:49 AM
Post by: Cire on April 24, 2014, 08:23:37 AM
Kstaters are all "boy we could sure use the moisture"
Post by: slobber on April 24, 2014, 08:46:58 AM
Water 4 times a day for 10 minutes each time. Then take a couple of days off. Do not water every day, no matter how hot it is. Every other day is not horrible, but the idea is that you want to push the water deep to get the roots to grow deep so when you have a full profile of mositure in the soil the roots are able to use all of it. Roots don't grow when it is hot, so you have to establish the roots early in the spring and in the fall.im not a lawn guy but having read through this thread at a visceral distance, the answer, it appears, as it is with most things, is the more chemicals, the better
and water. lots of water. I do the bare minimum to not be "that guy" in my neighborhood and have the bad yard. ten minutes per zone every other day in the summer if no rain. crabgrass preventer and then later spot spray. not that tough but still annoying.
40 minutes once per week is MUCH better than 10 minutes every other day.
my yard has a pretty decent slope so this is the worst possible advice that you could give me. but thanks for the bad advice as always, mikey.
This also depends on the type of sprinkler head. A small fan sprinkler head will water the hell out of the same area in a 5 min period. A large rotating head is just getting things started after 12-15 minutes.
Post by: Cire on April 24, 2014, 08:49:10 AM
seems like you wouldn't want to do it in the afternoon. Is morning better than evening?
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 24, 2014, 08:51:08 AM
Post by: Tobias on April 24, 2014, 08:54:18 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 24, 2014, 08:54:54 AM
Water 4 times a day for 10 minutes each time. Do not water every day, no matter how hot it is.im not a lawn guy but having read through this thread at a visceral distance, the answer, it appears, as it is with most things, is the more chemicals, the better
and water. lots of water. I do the bare minimum to not be "that guy" in my neighborhood and have the bad yard. ten minutes per zone every other day in the summer if no rain. crabgrass preventer and then later spot spray. not that tough but still annoying.
40 minutes once per week is MUCH better than 10 minutes every other day.
my yard has a pretty decent slope so this is the worst possible advice that you could give me. but thanks for the bad advice as always, mikey.
bluevillenurserycat tells/told me that i should do each zone for ten minutes two times a day every other day and that i should do it around 4am. like cycle through all the zones and then immediately cycle through them again. my problem w/ this is that i am lazy and don't know how to program my programmer so i just manually turn them on in the morning if it hasn't rained for a couple of days. indoor related story to show my laziness- my thermostat suddenly started automatically going to 65 degrees at about 5pm late last summer. i'd get home from work and just mind my own business and then all of the sudden it would be really cold in the house and then i'd be all oh god darnit, guess it's 5pm. time to go manually adjust whatever the thermostat just automatically did. anyway, that went on for a month and then it got cold so i stopped using the AC. well the other day it was warm so we turned the thermostat to cool instead of heat. then around 6pm i'm all gosh darn it's kind of cold in here. guess what? the darn son of a gun was back at sixty five. have i figured out how to make it stop? no. no i haven't.
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 24, 2014, 08:56:49 AM
i need to investigate trenching in a sprinkler setup for the backyard. hand watering (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fforum%2FThemes%2Fchemical_light%2Fimages%2Fpost%2Fthumbdown.gif&hash=8dd80960f8ef307338fbca112d065a3f636aaa7a)
Me too. :frown:
Post by: Tobias on April 24, 2014, 09:01:09 AM
Post by: slobber on April 24, 2014, 09:33:35 AM
That story made my smile and feel good inside that you shared it. Thank you!Water 4 times a day for 10 minutes each time. Do not water every day, no matter how hot it is.im not a lawn guy but having read through this thread at a visceral distance, the answer, it appears, as it is with most things, is the more chemicals, the better
and water. lots of water. I do the bare minimum to not be "that guy" in my neighborhood and have the bad yard. ten minutes per zone every other day in the summer if no rain. crabgrass preventer and then later spot spray. not that tough but still annoying.
40 minutes once per week is MUCH better than 10 minutes every other day.
my yard has a pretty decent slope so this is the worst possible advice that you could give me. but thanks for the bad advice as always, mikey.
bluevillenurserycat tells/told me that i should do each zone for ten minutes two times a day every other day and that i should do it around 4am. like cycle through all the zones and then immediately cycle through them again. my problem w/ this is that i am lazy and don't know how to program my programmer so i just manually turn them on in the morning if it hasn't rained for a couple of days. indoor related story to show my laziness- my thermostat suddenly started automatically going to 65 degrees at about 5pm late last summer. i'd get home from work and just mind my own business and then all of the sudden it would be really cold in the house and then i'd be all oh god darnit, guess it's 5pm. time to go manually adjust whatever the thermostat just automatically did. anyway, that went on for a month and then it got cold so i stopped using the AC. well the other day it was warm so we turned the thermostat to cool instead of heat. then around 6pm i'm all gosh darn it's kind of cold in here. guess what? the darn son of a gun was back at sixty five. have i figured out how to make it stop? no. no i haven't.
bluevillenurserycat knows what he is talking about. I said 4 times in refernce to the 40 min vs. 10 min. Also, if you really have a steep hill, you might want to water it more than twice a day, but you get the idea. Have a buddy program your thermostat and sprinkler. There are a bunch of people that get off on doing that for others. I never volunteer, but I have programmed a few sprinkler systems for some of my neighbors and friends. I ask them if they want to learn how or if they just want me to do it for them. Make certain to tell them that you don't want to know how to do it..."here are the keys to the house, make my thermostat work right. The beer is in the fridge." I have seen some people get really adament on wanting to teach somebody how easy it is to program a thermostat. IF I DON'T WANT TO LEARN, THEN DON'T EFF'n TRY TO TEACH ME is what I always say. (dobber 3:16)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 24, 2014, 09:40:54 AM
3: http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/earwigs-c-147.html
that's a great list of stuff that kills insects, but it doesn't provide any information about how they measure on the two criteria i specified - good way to kill lots of earwigs and safe for vertebrates to eat.
sorry I assumed being a KSU fan you could a) read where it states those are the best products for earwig control and b) weren't so lazy you couldn't review the products recommended for those compatible with a vegetable garden. carry on!
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 24, 2014, 09:43:18 AM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 24, 2014, 09:44:27 AM
im not a lawn guy but having read through this thread at a visceral distance, the answer, it appears, as it is with most things, is the more chemicals, the better
and water. lots of water. I do the bare minimum to not be "that guy" in my neighborhood and have the bad yard. ten minutes per zone every other day in the summer if no rain. crabgrass preventer and then later spot spray. not that tough but still annoying.
40 minutes once per week is MUCH better than 10 minutes every other day.
my yard has a pretty decent slope so this is the worst possible advice that you could give me. but thanks for the bad advice as always, mikey.
happens that my yard also has decent slope, and I also used to think the every other day thing was better until my friend the KSU grad landscape architect told me to do once a week. In the very extremes of summer you may want to add more waterings to avoid heat burnout but the rest of the year she told me it was not promoting root development which will help AVOID the heat burnout.
Post by: IPA4Me on April 24, 2014, 09:48:13 AM
I'd gladly program that thermostat for you but I think you might be a few states from me. Maybe you could push the HOLD button. Or you can just do whatever you've been doing.Water 4 times a day for 10 minutes each time. Do not water every day, no matter how hot it is.im not a lawn guy but having read through this thread at a visceral distance, the answer, it appears, as it is with most things, is the more chemicals, the better
and water. lots of water. I do the bare minimum to not be "that guy" in my neighborhood and have the bad yard. ten minutes per zone every other day in the summer if no rain. crabgrass preventer and then later spot spray. not that tough but still annoying.
40 minutes once per week is MUCH better than 10 minutes every other day.
my yard has a pretty decent slope so this is the worst possible advice that you could give me. but thanks for the bad advice as always, mikey.
bluevillenurserycat tells/told me that i should do each zone for ten minutes two times a day every other day and that i should do it around 4am. like cycle through all the zones and then immediately cycle through them again. my problem w/ this is that i am lazy and don't know how to program my programmer so i just manually turn them on in the morning if it hasn't rained for a couple of days. indoor related story to show my laziness- my thermostat suddenly started automatically going to 65 degrees at about 5pm late last summer. i'd get home from work and just mind my own business and then all of the sudden it would be really cold in the house and then i'd be all oh god darnit, guess it's 5pm. time to go manually adjust whatever the thermostat just automatically did. anyway, that went on for a month and then it got cold so i stopped using the AC. well the other day it was warm so we turned the thermostat to cool instead of heat. then around 6pm i'm all gosh darn it's kind of cold in here. guess what? the darn son of a gun was back at sixty five. have i figured out how to make it stop? no. no i haven't.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 24, 2014, 09:49:11 AM
im not a lawn guy but having read through this thread at a visceral distance, the answer, it appears, as it is with most things, is the more chemicals, the better
and water. lots of water. I do the bare minimum to not be "that guy" in my neighborhood and have the bad yard. ten minutes per zone every other day in the summer if no rain. crabgrass preventer and then later spot spray. not that tough but still annoying.
40 minutes once per week is MUCH better than 10 minutes every other day.
my yard has a pretty decent slope so this is the worst possible advice that you could give me. but thanks for the bad advice as always, mikey.
happens that my yard also has decent slope, and I also used to think the every other day thing was better until my friend the KSU grad landscape architect told me to do once a week. In the very extremes of summer you may want to add more waterings to avoid heat burnout but the rest of the year she told me it was not promoting root development which will help AVOID the heat burnout.
well bluevillenurserycat has a degree in turf management and does this stuff for a living and thinks you and your little girlfriend are wrong, so there. looks like we have a kstate yard expert off on our hands. may the best man (or girl) win.
Post by: _33 on April 24, 2014, 09:55:54 AM
My Plan:
Spring
1. Put down crabgrass preventer+fertilizer tonight (weather permitting)
2. Spray lawn with orthro weed b gone broad leaf killer spray
Summer
1. Weed and feed once in mid summer on a very dewy morning
2. Spot spray as needed to control weeds
Fall
1. Use my dad's gas powered dethatcher to dethatch lawn
2. Aerate
3. Overseed
Does anyone want to change or add anything?
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 24, 2014, 10:00:08 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on April 24, 2014, 10:03:49 AM
DOBBER DO YOU THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLAN? WHY WON'T YOU LOOK AT MY PLAN DOBBER YOU SON OF A BITCH. JUST KIDDING BUT SERIOUSLY LOOK AT IT AND TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW. OR WHENEVER YOU HAVE TIME.My Plan:
Spring
1. Put down crabgrass preventer+fertilizer tonight (weather permitting)
2. Spray lawn with orthro weed b gone broad leaf killer spray
Summer
1. Weed and feed once in mid summer on a very dewy morning
2. Spot spray as needed to control weeds
Fall
1. Use my dad's gas powered dethatcher to dethatch lawn
2. Aerate
3. Overseed
Does anyone want to change or add anything?
Changing your name to steve dave helps. dobber is like my own personal landscaper now.
Post by: CNS on April 24, 2014, 10:19:24 AM
I'd like for someone to tell me the pros/cons of aerate vs verticut.
Can't speak for everyone, but for me personally:
Pro: I own a verticutter
Con: I would have to rent an aerator.
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 24, 2014, 10:35:32 AM
Post by: CNS on April 24, 2014, 10:54:38 AM
What do those run?
Mine is a dino that was a commercial level one and was rebuilt by a machine shop guy I used to live near. Got it for $150. have had to do another $150 in work on it in the last three years, but it is a monster and doesn't need weight on it to do it's job.
No clue what a new one runs.
As for further diff, and Dobbs feel free to correct this if wrong, I was told by grass pad ppl that blue grass will spread where as fescue won't unless it goes to seed. So if you aerate and the seed gets dropped in the aerate hole, the grass plant will be too deep and won't spread to the surface if you are over seeding in fescue, which I do. The guy told me that it works just fine if bluegrass is your thing.
Verticutting opens up a trench to let the seed in without it being inches deep. Also, I have always had clay issues until last the new house and I was trying to open up as much surface area to get compost and fert in the as I could. I don't know if any of this is backed up by actual scientific knowledge, but it makes sense to me and it worked at my old lawn.
Post by: slobber on April 24, 2014, 11:05:59 AM
DOBBER DO YOU THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLAN? WHY WON'T YOU LOOK AT MY PLAN DOBBER YOU SON OF A BITCH. JUST KIDDING BUT SERIOUSLY LOOK AT IT AND TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW. OR WHENEVER YOU HAVE TIME.My Plan:
Spring
1. Put down crabgrass preventer+fertilizer tonight (weather permitting) NO SUCH THING AS WEATHER PERMITTING, GET THAT crap OUT NOW!
2. Spray lawn with orthro weed b gone broad leaf killer spray THAT IS 2,4-D. GET SOME CONCENTRATE AND MIX IT YOURSELF AND SPRAY THE WHOLE YARD IN A WEEK OR TWO
Summer
1. Weed and feed once in mid summer on a very dewy morning FERTILIZE NOW AND THEN AGAIN IN 6 WEEKS WITH A LOW RATE AND THEN AGAIN IN 6 WEEKS WITH ANOTHER LOW RATE. FERTILIZE AGAIN PRIOR TO OR AT AERATION WITH A STARTER FERTILIZER
2. Spot spray as needed to control weeds KNOCK YOURSELF OUT
Fall
1. Use my dad's gas powered dethatcher to dethatch lawn SOME THATCH IS GOOD, BUT IF YOU HAVE .75 " OF THATCH OR MORE, THAT'S JUST TOO MUCH, MAN! DETHATCH THE HELL OUT OF IT.
YOU SHOULD LEAVE YOUR CLIPPINGS, BUT LETTING THE GRASS GET TOO TALL IN BETWEEN MOWINGS WILL LEAD TO A BUILDUP IN THATCH. NEVER MOW MORE THAN THE TOP 1/3RD OF THE HEIGHT.
2. Aerate YES. IF YOUR YARD IS REALLY THIN, GO OVER IT ABOUT 4 or 5 TIMES.
3. Overseed YES
Does anyone want to change or add anything?
Post by: slobber on April 24, 2014, 11:08:34 AM
I'd like for someone to tell me the pros/cons of aerate vs verticut.Aeration reduces compaction. Verticut is mainly just for seeding, but may start more grass than just a single pass with an aerator. I usually aerate my lawn in 2-3 directions prior to overseeding. Verticut will also remove/breakup your thatch layer, which is good if it is too thick.
Post by: slobber on April 24, 2014, 11:09:43 AM
I missed the plan question. I thought you wanted me to answer the first post, which I did! Also answered this post!DOBBER DO YOU THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLAN? WHY WON'T YOU LOOK AT MY PLAN DOBBER YOU SON OF A BITCH. JUST KIDDING BUT SERIOUSLY LOOK AT IT AND TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW. OR WHENEVER YOU HAVE TIME.My Plan:
Spring
1. Put down crabgrass preventer+fertilizer tonight (weather permitting)
2. Spray lawn with orthro weed b gone broad leaf killer spray
Summer
1. Weed and feed once in mid summer on a very dewy morning
2. Spot spray as needed to control weeds
Fall
1. Use my dad's gas powered dethatcher to dethatch lawn
2. Aerate
3. Overseed
Does anyone want to change or add anything?
Changing your name to steve dave helps. dobber is like my own personal landscaper now.
Post by: Tobias on April 24, 2014, 11:10:08 AM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 24, 2014, 11:10:21 AM
Verticutting is a way to remove thatch and ensure seed to soil contact.
Aeration removes core plugs which allow for some seed to soil contact when overseeding by dropping those soil plugs on the surface which in turn break down when watered, but has the intent if promoting an avenue for water and fertilizer (and other amendments) to penetrate deeper into the soil. It also looses the soil and reduces compaction which is bad for root growth.
Post by: ben ji on April 24, 2014, 11:22:52 AM
Male Bluegill do this as well to attract a mate, they will create a little circle in along the bank with rocks in the middle. Then the females come along and get super choosey and will only lay eggs in the best circles.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi26.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc105%2Fewest1%2F61abluegill-bedsdance.jpg&hash=6538356709c910e6295b418bd665a8fea23c227e)
In the grand scheme of thigns we are all just animals trying to find/keep a mate and pass our seed along.
Post by: _33 on April 24, 2014, 11:46:02 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on April 24, 2014, 12:05:57 PM
Thanks, dobber. You've really given me the the knowledge and confidence I need to tackle this lawn issue.
Yeah, I feel better too. Thanks for coming up with a dobber approved plan. Seems doable.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 24, 2014, 12:10:57 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on April 24, 2014, 12:12:01 PM
you guys, i just had a funny though. what if we went to dobbers house and his yard was all horrible. that would be pretty funny.
The guy that came up with crossfit looks like crap.
Post by: Tobias on April 24, 2014, 12:13:07 PM
Post by: Cire on April 24, 2014, 12:14:55 PM
Post by: CNS on April 24, 2014, 12:17:16 PM
May pick one of these up this spring.
Pretty reasonable.
Anyone ever use one of these before?
The guy with the absolute best retired-guy lawn on my street uses one of these.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 24, 2014, 12:35:18 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on April 24, 2014, 01:02:45 PM
better yet, what if he didn't even have a yard. like he lives in a downtown new york loft or something. that would also be pretty funny.
:lol:
Hey guys, check out my yard. This stuff really works!
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.merchantcircle.com%2F29979421%2Ffront-yard-desert-landscape-design-480-390-4477_full.jpeg&hash=97ec822ba17281bb6bbfd3a83bffbdcd4af20c20)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 24, 2014, 01:20:05 PM
http://www.homedepot.com/p/John-Deere-48-in-Tow-Behind-Plug-Aerator-PA-48JD/100609654?N=5yc1vZbx8w (http://www.homedepot.com/p/John-Deere-48-in-Tow-Behind-Plug-Aerator-PA-48JD/100609654?N=5yc1vZbx8w)
May pick one of these up this spring.
Pretty reasonable.
Anyone ever use one of these before?
The guy with the absolute best retired-guy lawn on my street uses one of these.
check into just renting one, the local place here has a nicer Bluebird model with weights and everything. I think they charged me $50, and I didn't have to store it the other 364.
Post by: CNS on April 24, 2014, 01:32:46 PM
http://www.homedepot.com/p/John-Deere-48-in-Tow-Behind-Plug-Aerator-PA-48JD/100609654?N=5yc1vZbx8w (http://www.homedepot.com/p/John-Deere-48-in-Tow-Behind-Plug-Aerator-PA-48JD/100609654?N=5yc1vZbx8w)
May pick one of these up this spring.
Pretty reasonable.
Anyone ever use one of these before?
The guy with the absolute best retired-guy lawn on my street uses one of these.
check into just renting one, the local place here has a nicer Bluebird model with weights and everything. I think they charged me $50, and I didn't have to store it the other 364.
Yeah, but renting is a pain in the ass to pick up and drop off, and if you think you are going to do it sat while planning on Fri but then Sat gets here and you don't feel like it, you still pay for the rental, etc.
Also, the reviews are pretty decent and note that it is heavily built, so it should last a while. Also, if you use it twice a year as some above have noted, this thing pays for itself in 5 yrs and even quicker if you counter in the fact that I hate dealing with the above rental stuff.
Going to buy it tonight. Free shipping!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 24, 2014, 01:52:04 PM
http://www.homedepot.com/p/John-Deere-48-in-Tow-Behind-Plug-Aerator-PA-48JD/100609654?N=5yc1vZbx8w (http://www.homedepot.com/p/John-Deere-48-in-Tow-Behind-Plug-Aerator-PA-48JD/100609654?N=5yc1vZbx8w)
May pick one of these up this spring.
Pretty reasonable.
Anyone ever use one of these before?
The guy with the absolute best retired-guy lawn on my street uses one of these.
check into just renting one, the local place here has a nicer Bluebird model with weights and everything. I think they charged me $50, and I didn't have to store it the other 364.
Yeah, but renting is a pain in the ass to pick up and drop off, and if you think you are going to do it sat while planning on Fri but then Sat gets here and you don't feel like it, you still pay for the rental, etc.
Also, the reviews are pretty decent and note that it is heavily built, so it should last a while. Also, if you use it twice a year as some above have noted, this thing pays for itself in 5 yrs and even quicker if you counter in the fact that I hate dealing with the above rental stuff.
Going to buy it tonight. Free shipping!
some talk online that the JD is most likely pretty much the same as this one with a paint job. http://www.homedepot.com/b/Outdoors-Outdoor-Power-Equipment-Riding-Mower-Tractor-Attachments-Aerators/N-5yc1vZbx8w
Now THAT price is probably worth buying one.
Post by: XocolateThundarr on April 24, 2014, 03:30:27 PM
Everytime I read these lawn care threads I think about that planet earth where some exotic bird meticulously clears a patch of earth then dances on it to attract a mate.
Male Bluegill do this as well to attract a mate, they will create a little circle in along the bank with rocks in the middle. Then the females come along and get super choosey and will only lay eggs in the best circles.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi26.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc105%2Fewest1%2F61abluegill-bedsdance.jpg&hash=6538356709c910e6295b418bd665a8fea23c227e)
In the grand scheme of thigns we are all just animals trying to find/keep a mate and pass our seed along.
Check out those rocks..... :love:
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 24, 2014, 03:34:15 PM
Post by: CNS on April 24, 2014, 03:42:32 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 24, 2014, 04:06:40 PM
I want to walk barefoot through those rocks!Everytime I read these lawn care threads I think about that planet earth where some exotic bird meticulously clears a patch of earth then dances on it to attract a mate.
Male Bluegill do this as well to attract a mate, they will create a little circle in along the bank with rocks in the middle. Then the females come along and get super choosey and will only lay eggs in the best circles.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi26.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc105%2Fewest1%2F61abluegill-bedsdance.jpg&hash=6538356709c910e6295b418bd665a8fea23c227e)
In the grand scheme of thigns we are all just animals trying to find/keep a mate and pass our seed along.
Check out those rocks..... :love:
Post by: sys on April 24, 2014, 04:46:34 PM
dobber, several questions.
1) i have this big bag of 15:15:15 and an urge to put it everywhere (nonlawn, other plant question). is there anything that won't like it? PROBABLY SOMETHING WON'T LIKE IT- I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL HAVE! YOU SHOULD BE FINE. JUST DON'T POUR IT OUT AT AN INSANE RATE. IT IS JUST FERTILIZER (NUTRIENTS FOUND IN THE SOIL).
2) i have white clover in my lawn and want to keep and encourage it. anything i can use to kill other crap that will leave the clover alone? WHAT?!?!?!?!? I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THIS!!!!! :runaway: (SINCE KC IS KIND OF ON THE N. EDGE OF THE TRANSITION ZONE, YOU CAN FIND SOMETHING IN THE STORE THAT WILL KILL POA (fescue), JUST MAKE CERTAIN IT DOESN'T KILL ANY BROADLEAVES (READ THE LABEL AND SEE IF IT CONTROLS DANDELIONS, IF IT DOES, IT WILL ALSO KILL YOUR WHITE CLOVER) (ARE YOU AN APIARIST?)
3) my entire property is infested with more earwigs than anyone would believe possible. any good way to kill them that won't render my edible plants inedible? SEVIN GRANULES or LIQUID SEVIN AROUND YOUR FOUNDATION. PROBABLY MORE THAN ONE APPLICATION. SEVIN IS REGESTERED TO USE ON MOST FRUITS AND VEGETABLES, WHICH IS WHY I RECOMMENDED IT FOR YOU. LOTS OF PRODUCTS CONTROL EARWIGS.
1. thank you.
2. i wasn't clear. i don't want to kill my fescues. i'd like to kill everything but the fescue and the white clover (i know i can't, but i'd like to). i just want to be sure not to kill the clover. i'd rather live with some of the other weeds than kill the clover, but if i can kill them without hurting the clover then they gone. i'm in california, btw (hot dry part).
followup to 2. is there any way to kill all this invasive bermuda crap that everyone else has in their lawns and probably was in my lawn before i lived here? without killing my fescues and clover, that is.
3. perfect, thank you (if i die of sevin poisoning, i will haunt you, tho).
Post by: sys on April 24, 2014, 04:50:15 PM
3: http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/earwigs-c-147.html
that's a great list of stuff that kills insects, but it doesn't provide any information about how they measure on the two criteria i specified - good way to kill lots of earwigs and safe for vertebrates to eat.
sorry I assumed being a KSU fan you could a) read where it states those are the best products for earwig control and b) weren't so lazy you couldn't review the products recommended for those compatible with a vegetable garden. carry on!
well, jfc, mikey. if i wanted to research which product to use myself i wouldn't have posted in this thread. i'm not here to fanningbrag about how many earwigs i have.
Post by: slobber on April 25, 2014, 10:39:34 AM
Any benefit to spring seeding? or just wait until fall?You can spring seed, but if you have put out a crabgrass preventer, the seed won't germinate. If you have a really barren area, then spray that area with roundup and seed the area without putting any crabgrass preventer in that area. Sure, some weeds will still come up, but you can get some grass established now rather than waiting until this fall.
Post by: slobber on April 25, 2014, 10:41:52 AM
http://www.homedepot.com/p/John-Deere-48-in-Tow-Behind-Plug-Aerator-PA-48JD/100609654?N=5yc1vZbx8w (http://www.homedepot.com/p/John-Deere-48-in-Tow-Behind-Plug-Aerator-PA-48JD/100609654?N=5yc1vZbx8w)I have used one. It works, but it is a pain if you have a small lawn. Make certain you lawnmower is big enough to pull it. Don't want to burn out your clutch if your mower is too small.
May pick one of these up this spring.
Pretty reasonable.
Anyone ever use one of these before?
The guy with the absolute best retired-guy lawn on my street uses one of these.
Post by: CNS on April 25, 2014, 10:48:51 AM
http://www.homedepot.com/p/John-Deere-48-in-Tow-Behind-Plug-Aerator-PA-48JD/100609654?N=5yc1vZbx8w (http://www.homedepot.com/p/John-Deere-48-in-Tow-Behind-Plug-Aerator-PA-48JD/100609654?N=5yc1vZbx8w)I have used one. It works, but it is a pain if you have a small lawn. Make certain you lawnmower is big enough to pull it. Don't want to burn out your clutch if your mower is too small.
May pick one of these up this spring.
Pretty reasonable.
Anyone ever use one of these before?
The guy with the absolute best retired-guy lawn on my street uses one of these.
1.2 acre lawn(lots of trees on half of that, tho) with (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.homedepot.com%2Fcatalog%2FproductImages%2F300%2F2c%2F2ce495e4-be26-41e6-8d9b-70cb64c68c95_300.jpg&hash=446729fadf2c751018c3573be88514fd7f1f4b87) 19hp.
Post by: slobber on April 25, 2014, 10:58:41 AM
dobber, several questions.
1) i have this big bag of 15:15:15 and an urge to put it everywhere (nonlawn, other plant question). is there anything that won't like it? PROBABLY SOMETHING WON'T LIKE IT- I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL HAVE! YOU SHOULD BE FINE. JUST DON'T POUR IT OUT AT AN INSANE RATE. IT IS JUST FERTILIZER (NUTRIENTS FOUND IN THE SOIL).
2) i have white clover in my lawn and want to keep and encourage it. anything i can use to kill other crap that will leave the clover alone? WHAT?!?!?!?!? I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THIS!!!!! :runaway: (SINCE KC IS KIND OF ON THE N. EDGE OF THE TRANSITION ZONE, YOU CAN FIND SOMETHING IN THE STORE THAT WILL KILL POA (fescue), JUST MAKE CERTAIN IT DOESN'T KILL ANY BROADLEAVES (READ THE LABEL AND SEE IF IT CONTROLS DANDELIONS, IF IT DOES, IT WILL ALSO KILL YOUR WHITE CLOVER) (ARE YOU AN APIARIST?)
3) my entire property is infested with more earwigs than anyone would believe possible. any good way to kill them that won't render my edible plants inedible? SEVIN GRANULES or LIQUID SEVIN AROUND YOUR FOUNDATION. PROBABLY MORE THAN ONE APPLICATION. SEVIN IS REGESTERED TO USE ON MOST FRUITS AND VEGETABLES, WHICH IS WHY I RECOMMENDED IT FOR YOU. LOTS OF PRODUCTS CONTROL EARWIGS.
1. thank you.
2. i wasn't clear. i don't want to kill my fescues. i'd like to kill everything but the fescue and the white clover (i know i can't, but i'd like to). i just want to be sure not to kill the clover. i'd rather live with some of the other weeds than kill the clover, but if i can kill them without hurting the clover then they gone. i'm in california, btw (hot dry part).
I used to live on Fallbrook Ave. near the corner of Peach and Nees.
The clover will eventually take over the fescue if you don't kill the clover. I don't know what you can spray to leave fescue and clover but kill other weeds.
followup to 2. is there any way to kill all this invasive bermuda crap that everyone else has in their lawns and probably was in my lawn before i lived here? without killing my fescues and clover, that is.
If you can find something with fenoxaprop in it, that will be your best bet to control bermudagrass in fescue. It is very challenging to take bermudagrass out of fescue. You want to make the application now, before the bermudagrass really takes off in the summer. A couple of applicaitons will work much better than a single applicaiton.
3. perfect, thank you (if i die of sevin poisoning, i will haunt you, tho). Don't eat it!
Post by: XocolateThundarr on April 25, 2014, 11:01:31 AM
http://www.homedepot.com/p/John-Deere-48-in-Tow-Behind-Plug-Aerator-PA-48JD/100609654?N=5yc1vZbx8w (http://www.homedepot.com/p/John-Deere-48-in-Tow-Behind-Plug-Aerator-PA-48JD/100609654?N=5yc1vZbx8w)I have used one. It works, but it is a pain if you have a small lawn. Make certain you lawnmower is big enough to pull it. Don't want to burn out your clutch if your mower is too small.
May pick one of these up this spring.
Pretty reasonable.
Anyone ever use one of these before?
The guy with the absolute best retired-guy lawn on my street uses one of these.
I have one as well. I am going to miss using it when I sell my rider.
Post by: slobber on April 25, 2014, 11:37:57 AM
_FAN, that quote was hilarious.
Rowdddyy, if I had a flat in NYC you'd know that by now! (Brag about some stud thing related)
Post by: Skipper44 on April 25, 2014, 11:52:45 AM
I have not done it, but they say you can seed after putting down crabgrass preventer if you put down at least a 1/2 to 3/4" of fresh soil for the seed to germinate in. I may try this soon for some of the problem spots in my yard (under trees, along the driveway and street, etc).Any benefit to spring seeding? or just wait until fall?You can spring seed, but if you have put out a crabgrass preventer, the seed won't germinate. If you have a really barren area, then spray that area with roundup and seed the area without putting any crabgrass preventer in that area. Sure, some weeds will still come up, but you can get some grass established now rather than waiting until this fall.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 25, 2014, 04:43:23 PM
I have not done it, but they say you can seed after putting down crabgrass preventer if you put down at least a 1/2 to 3/4" of fresh soil for the seed to germinate in. I may try this soon for some of the problem spots in my yard (under trees, along the driveway and street, etc).Any benefit to spring seeding? or just wait until fall?You can spring seed, but if you have put out a crabgrass preventer, the seed won't germinate. If you have a really barren area, then spray that area with roundup and seed the area without putting any crabgrass preventer in that area. Sure, some weeds will still come up, but you can get some grass established now rather than waiting until this fall.
crabgrass preventer works by creating a shield of chemical over your lawn. If you aerate, that destroys the barrier and you may get crabgrss, and grass seed would germinate where aerated. The soil from the plugs or any soil placed over the barrier would allow germination of both grass and crabgrass. So unless you just regret using the Halts, don't do it or you wasted your money.
Post by: sys on April 26, 2014, 02:35:31 PM
I used to live on Fallbrook Ave. near the corner of Peach and Nees.
:surprised:
Post by: sys on April 26, 2014, 02:36:06 PM
I used to live on Fallbrook Ave. near the corner of Peach and Nees.
:surprised:
why didn't i know this!
Post by: sys on April 26, 2014, 02:36:50 PM
I used to live on Fallbrook Ave. near the corner of Peach and Nees.
:surprised:
why didn't i know this!
:surprised:
Post by: sys on April 26, 2014, 02:43:41 PM
The clover will eventually take over the fescue if you don't kill the clover. I don't know what you can spray to leave fescue and clover but kill other weeds.
If you can find something with fenoxaprop in it, that will be your best bet to control bermudagrass in fescue. It is very challenging to take bermudagrass out of fescue. You want to make the application now, before the bermudagrass really takes off in the summer. A couple of applicaitons will work much better than a single applicaiton.
Don't eat it!
i don't believe you that the clover will take over, but he she takes over, then she takes over. your lips to god's ears.
i'm going to go buy a bunch of toxic chemicals right now. hope my neighbor's yard dies from the overspray.
i'm not going to eat it straight, but it'll prolly be in and on my plants, right? i'm a lot bigger than an earwig though, i bet i can fight off the effects. gotta do something, the fuckers are starting in on my corsican mint now (maybe snails, actually. gonna kill them too, just to be safe).
Post by: slobber on April 26, 2014, 11:57:22 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: slobber on April 27, 2014, 12:02:11 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 27, 2014, 12:02:41 AM
Post by: slobber on April 27, 2014, 12:56:16 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: sys on April 27, 2014, 04:59:06 PM
that clover is going to take over. clover is ridiculous in it's need and desire to spread. good bye fescue.
Rowwwddddyyyy really knows his crap
this is fascinating. here we have this plant that can barely survive, even when its every desire is catered to, and because of your irrational hatred for the organism, you boys have convinced yourself that it's some super invasive monster. just amazing, the human mind.
Post by: sys on April 27, 2014, 05:00:08 PM
this is fascinating. here we have this plant that can barely survive, even when its every desire is catered to, and because of your irrational hatred for the organism, you boys have convinced yourself that it's some super invasive monster. just amazing, the human mind.
burclover, tho. :curse:
Post by: sys on April 27, 2014, 05:01:16 PM
Pretty sure I mentioned Clovis in a post or two. How was Rodeo Days?
i don't participate in the local customs and cultures. it's just a place i have to live for the moment.
Post by: slobber on April 27, 2014, 10:58:28 PM
:lol: I never attended Rodeo Days either. One of my best friends (non-'cat) lives in Clovis but was in town last week for work and The Boss concert. He had to fly back on Friday for a big corporate thing at Rodeo Days.Pretty sure I mentioned Clovis in a post or two. How was Rodeo Days?
i don't participate in the local customs and cultures. it's just a place i have to live for the moment.
Post by: IPA4Me on June 19, 2014, 09:04:34 AM
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Post by: steve dave on June 19, 2014, 09:08:16 AM
Hired this place to do my fertilizing and junk. also to do pest spraying. they said I won't want to aerate it until next year so the roots get really rooted or something. thoughts on this program lawn guys?
http://www.heartlandlawnsomaha.com/services/6-step-turf-wellness-program
they are charging me $50 per treatment (6 treatments a year) plus $150 for a year of pest control which I think is 5 treatments.
Post by: meow meow on June 19, 2014, 09:51:23 AM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 19, 2014, 10:13:35 AM
I shut off my water on my new sod yesterday before it went off at 7PM. Going to dry it out today and cut it about 2PM Friday then soak it down for another week. Friday will be 9 days since they laid it. hope the roots are down enough.
Hired this place to do my fertilizing and junk. also to do pest spraying. they said I won't want to aerate it until next year so the roots get really rooted or something. thoughts on this program lawn guys?
http://www.heartlandlawnsomaha.com/services/6-step-turf-wellness-program
they are charging me $50 per treatment (6 treatments a year) plus $150 for a year of pest control which I think is 5 treatments.
peel back some turf and see if you're getting root hold. If it comes right up like an area rug you probably want to wait.
Post by: slobber on June 19, 2014, 12:38:21 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: steve dave on June 19, 2014, 12:39:56 PM
I shut off my water on my new sod yesterday before it went off at 7PM. Going to dry it out today and cut it about 2PM Friday then soak it down for another week. Friday will be 9 days since they laid it. hope the roots are down enough.
Hired this place to do my fertilizing and junk. also to do pest spraying. they said I won't want to aerate it until next year so the roots get really rooted or something. thoughts on this program lawn guys?
http://www.heartlandlawnsomaha.com/services/6-step-turf-wellness-program
they are charging me $50 per treatment (6 treatments a year) plus $150 for a year of pest control which I think is 5 treatments.
peel back some turf and see if you're getting root hold. If it comes right up like an area rug you probably want to wait.
did this over lunch today. pulls up pretty easy in the corner. will try again middle of next week and put off mowing.
Post by: puniraptor on June 19, 2014, 04:22:28 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 19, 2014, 04:25:34 PM
what are examples of lawn pests? chiggers prolly?
grubs
Post by: Gooch on June 19, 2014, 04:25:47 PM
what are examples of lawn pests? chiggers prolly?Spiders. Big rough ridin' brown spiders.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 19, 2014, 04:27:03 PM
Post by: Frankenklein on June 19, 2014, 04:28:11 PM
what are examples of lawn pests? chiggers prolly?Neighborhood kids
Post by: puniraptor on June 19, 2014, 04:31:52 PM
Post by: Frankenklein on June 19, 2014, 04:33:10 PM
Don't let the grubs get going or you will have moles all over the placewhat are examples of lawn pests? chiggers prolly?
grubs
Post by: steve dave on June 19, 2014, 04:54:43 PM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 19, 2014, 04:56:43 PM
Don't let the grubs get going or you will have moles all over the placewhat are examples of lawn pests? chiggers prolly?
grubs
Yes, moles are another bad yard pest. Spiders don't even eat them.
Post by: CNS on June 19, 2014, 05:51:06 PM
Post by: slobber on June 19, 2014, 06:20:38 PM
@dobber here is my lawn with PBR (12 oz) as referencei can see why you are getting a bit antsy to mow, but I think you have it figured out. If there are dry spots, you may want to spray them with a garden hose, but you don't want those wet spots setting in water.
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Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: slobber on June 19, 2014, 06:21:04 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: Cire on June 19, 2014, 09:41:04 PM
Post by: slobber on June 19, 2014, 10:04:40 PM
SD DO NOT cut that sob until it is well rooted.Relax, he's listening. You think I'd let sd down?
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: Tobias on June 19, 2014, 10:15:09 PM
Post by: cDubya on June 20, 2014, 09:59:05 AM
Post by: CNS on June 20, 2014, 04:26:47 PM
The owner of my house prior to me loved them some lava rock rather than mulch in the planters around the house. Rock, for some reason, loves it some crab grass(only place I have much of it at all is in these planters). Can I torch that crap with something that will kill it without killing my moss rose, cone flower, rhododendron, hybiscus, knockout roses, mums, astors, silvia, rubeckia, gailardia, flocks, etc or do I need to actually pull weeds like every other night for the rest of my life(or at least until I get the time to replace the rock with something else)?
Post by: Panjandrum on June 20, 2014, 04:35:35 PM
I guess the rest of the dudes in my cul-de-sac all have a system of french drains that they rig into each other and dump the water into a creek. My neighbor was like, "Dude, just hook into mine."
Anyone done this? Easy? Hard?
Post by: HerrSonntag on June 20, 2014, 04:45:21 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 20, 2014, 04:47:57 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on June 20, 2014, 05:16:04 PM
yeah. if you feel like playing around on a mini excavator and skid steer, then do it. i would never do it by hand tho.
All right, I'll get this quoted through Angie's List, then.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 20, 2014, 05:24:32 PM
yeah. if you feel like playing around on a mini excavator and skid steer, then do it. i would never do it by hand tho.
All right, I'll get this quoted through Angie's List, then.
I assume you are in kc?
Post by: slobber on June 20, 2014, 06:29:56 PM
@dobberwow, lot going on here. Are you a townie? What kind of grass is growing around those beds?
The owner of my house prior to me loved them some lava rock rather than mulch in the planters around the house. Rock, for some reason, loves it some crab grass(only place I have much of it at all is in these planters). Can I torch that crap with something that will kill it without killing my moss rose, cone flower, rhododendron, hybiscus, knockout roses, mums, astors, silvia, rubeckia, gailardia, flocks, etc or do I need to actually pull weeds like every other night for the rest of my life(or at least until I get the time to replace the rock with something else)?
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: slobber on June 20, 2014, 06:33:00 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: CNS on June 20, 2014, 06:54:59 PM
@dobberwow, lot going on here. Are you a townie? What kind of grass is growing around those beds?
The owner of my house prior to me loved them some lava rock rather than mulch in the planters around the house. Rock, for some reason, loves it some crab grass(only place I have much of it at all is in these planters). Can I torch that crap with something that will kill it without killing my moss rose, cone flower, rhododendron, hybiscus, knockout roses, mums, astors, silvia, rubeckia, gailardia, flocks, etc or do I need to actually pull weeds like every other night for the rest of my life(or at least until I get the time to replace the rock with something else)?
Gonna win 'em all!
Fescue w some bluegrass. Mostly fescue
Post by: CNS on June 20, 2014, 06:55:20 PM
Post by: slobber on June 20, 2014, 06:58:20 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: CNS on June 20, 2014, 07:20:23 PM
Post by: Frankenklein on June 20, 2014, 07:52:53 PM
@dobberTry a product called Poast.You'll also need to apply it with some crop oil to make it stick.It might be hard to find it in smaller sized jugs so google the active chemical as it is available from other companies under diff names.Also I think established fescue it pretty resistant to it but just keep it of the grass you want just to be safe.As always READ THE LABEL before using
The owner of my house prior to me loved them some lava rock rather than mulch in the planters around the house. Rock, for some reason, loves it some crab grass(only place I have much of it at all is in these planters). Can I torch that crap with something that will kill it without killing my moss rose, cone flower, rhododendron, hybiscus, knockout roses, mums, astors, silvia, rubeckia, gailardia, flocks, etc or do I need to actually pull weeds like every other night for the rest of my life(or at least until I get the time to replace the rock with something else)?
Post by: CNS on June 20, 2014, 08:25:14 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on June 21, 2014, 01:21:22 AM
yeah. if you feel like playing around on a mini excavator and skid steer, then do it. i would never do it by hand tho.
All right, I'll get this quoted through Angie's List, then.
I assume you are in kc?
Yes
Post by: Frankenklein on June 21, 2014, 10:03:03 AM
Crop oil sounds fake. Is this a real thing? Also, that sounds like more work than just weeding. Is that more work than just weeding?https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1GGGE___US557US557&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=crop%20oil
If one of your friends called and said hey I need help pulling some crab grass would you go help? Well if you had some of this stuff you would be there in a jiffy and he would gladly let you drink all his beer.
Post by: Skipper44 on June 26, 2014, 02:56:07 PM
Crop oil sounds fake. Is this a real thing? Also, that sounds like more work than just weeding. Is that more work than just weeding?with lava rock you should just get a Mini Dragon
(https://www.flameengineering.com/files/categories/category_banner_3.png)
proudly made in LaCrosse, KS!
it beats the crap out of weeding anyplace you are fairly certain you won't cause an out of control fire. They are actually $10 cheaper on amazon than the company's site http://www.amazon.com/Red-Dragon-VT-1-32-Propane/dp/B002LH46M8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1403812155&sr=8-2&keywords=weed+torch (http://www.amazon.com/Red-Dragon-VT-1-32-Propane/dp/B002LH46M8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1403812155&sr=8-2&keywords=weed+torch)
Post by: CNS on June 26, 2014, 03:06:29 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on June 26, 2014, 03:11:07 PM
Holy crap! That is exactly what I need. Buying it now.they are freaking great - yard work doesn't get much better than eliminating weeds with your favorite yard beer in one hand and a 2000 degree flame in the other
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 26, 2014, 03:13:09 PM
Post by: CNS on June 26, 2014, 03:13:53 PM
Guys, I hate fescue. Hate it.
That is just crazy talk.
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 26, 2014, 03:15:26 PM
Guys, I hate fescue. Hate it.
That is just crazy talk.
I mean I hate it like I hate how I still have to drive a car and don't have a hovercraft or something.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 26, 2014, 03:37:28 PM
Crop oil sounds fake. Is this a real thing? Also, that sounds like more work than just weeding. Is that more work than just weeding?with lava rock you should just get a Mini Dragon
(https://www.flameengineering.com/files/categories/category_banner_3.png)
proudly made in LaCrosse, KS!
it beats the crap out of weeding anyplace you are fairly certain you won't cause an out of control fire. They are actually $10 cheaper on amazon than the company's site http://www.amazon.com/Red-Dragon-VT-1-32-Propane/dp/B002LH46M8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1403812155&sr=8-2&keywords=weed+torch (http://www.amazon.com/Red-Dragon-VT-1-32-Propane/dp/B002LH46M8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1403812155&sr=8-2&keywords=weed+torch)
do they make an electric one for @stevedave?
Post by: CNS on June 26, 2014, 04:36:52 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 26, 2014, 05:15:38 PM
Secondary use: spider killer!
use these to melt ice on jobsites all the time
Post by: Mr Bread on June 26, 2014, 07:22:17 PM
Post by: steve dave on June 26, 2014, 07:37:00 PM
Post by: Tobias on June 26, 2014, 07:40:01 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on June 26, 2014, 09:28:37 PM
Post by: Cire on June 26, 2014, 09:31:49 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 26, 2014, 09:35:14 PM
my yard has these really green shoots of grass sticking up in some places. what are those? They are much taller than the fescue.
where a dog pooped
Post by: Cire on June 26, 2014, 09:38:46 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 26, 2014, 09:39:06 PM
burning down heaters with the new yard crew
you could light up a whole pack of heaters at once with that thing.
Post by: CNS on June 26, 2014, 10:08:08 PM
no, definitely a weed that looks like grass but grows tall and looks way out of place.
Nutsege, or something. Grasspad has something called Sedge Hammer that takes care of it. It will take over your lawn quickly if not handled.
Post by: IPA4Me on June 27, 2014, 07:51:24 AM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 27, 2014, 08:18:04 AM
burning down heaters with the new yard crew
you could light up a whole pack of heaters at once with that thing.
You could light your fireworks next week without even bending over. You can keep your smokes in your mouth this year, guys. Dragon's got it.
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 27, 2014, 08:47:04 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 27, 2014, 08:48:42 AM
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Post by: CNS on June 27, 2014, 09:00:46 AM
:shakesfist:
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Get rid of the grubs. Moles think they are delish.
Post by: puniraptor on June 27, 2014, 09:15:28 AM
i would rather have moles than grass
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 27, 2014, 10:27:23 AM
:shakesfist:
Get rid of the grubs. Moles think they are delish.
I put GrubEx down last night. I got this. :thumbs:
Post by: SdK on June 27, 2014, 01:45:29 PM
Post by: CNS on June 27, 2014, 01:53:26 PM
I have a crap ton of bagworms in the shrubbery in from of my house. How do I kill?
you can pick up spray for this like anywhere. I think that Seven stuff works, but I may be misremembering.
Post by: slobber on June 27, 2014, 02:36:08 PM
Grub-Ex: you won't kill the grubs for at least 30 days. That product is a preventative product meant to be used before the grubs/moles are doing damage. The fastest acting grub product is 24 Hour Grub Control, or something like that. It will do a good job on the current grubs, but it won't last past a few days, so the new grubs that hatch after that will not be killed.
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: slobber on June 27, 2014, 02:37:34 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: Pete on June 27, 2014, 02:41:40 PM
Now, I am one of those lazy bastards. I don't own a mower of any kind, and have a pretty big yard.
Post by: CNS on June 27, 2014, 02:44:57 PM
Post by: CNS on June 27, 2014, 02:47:21 PM
no, definitely a weed that looks like grass but grows tall and looks way out of place.
Nutsege, or something. Grasspad has something called Sedge Hammer that takes care of it. It will take over your lawn quickly if not handled.
Here is what nutsedge looks like(at least the kind I had at my old house) *googleimage, not mine. (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ppdl.purdue.edu%2FPPDL%2Fimages%2Fyellownutsedge1.jpg&hash=fb53d7fc4a18974499cf9bad3d337f712991347e)
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If it doesn't look like this, take some to the nearest lawn care store and let them see it.
Post by: SdK on June 27, 2014, 02:49:05 PM
Alright thanks.I have a crap ton of bagworms in the shrubbery in from of my house. How do I kill?
you can pick up spray for this like anywhere. I think that Seven stuff works, but I may be misremembering.
No large trees near by dobber
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 27, 2014, 02:59:48 PM
Post by: Pete on June 27, 2014, 03:08:14 PM
Not ge'ing around, if you know someone that will mow a lawn for $20, have them PM me.
Dude that was like 20 years ago. I pay a guy $35 right now and consider it a steal.
Post by: CNS on June 27, 2014, 03:12:05 PM
Not ge'ing around, if you know someone that will mow a lawn for $20, have them PM me.
Dude that was like 20 years ago. I pay a guy $35 right now and consider it a steal.
Would jump at that too. We have a guy that does ours for $55 as needed, when we get too busy. I don't mind that, but it is high enough for me to keep doing it myself most the time.
Post by: Cire on June 27, 2014, 10:28:11 PM
no, definitely a weed that looks like grass but grows tall and looks way out of place.
Nutsege, or something. Grasspad has something called Sedge Hammer that takes care of it. It will take over your lawn quickly if not handled.
Here is what nutsedge looks like(at least the kind I had at my old house) *googleimage, not mine. (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ppdl.purdue.edu%2FPPDL%2Fimages%2Fyellownutsedge1.jpg&hash=fb53d7fc4a18974499cf9bad3d337f712991347e)
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If it doesn't look like this, take some to the nearest lawn care store and let them see it.
That is it. Will a spray kill the grass
Post by: slobber on June 28, 2014, 06:17:24 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: steve dave on June 28, 2014, 06:55:05 AM
Post by: IPA4Me on September 09, 2014, 06:01:37 PM
Post by: Spracne on September 09, 2014, 06:05:52 PM
Post by: slobber on September 09, 2014, 06:08:33 PM
@slobber Is it a good time for another round of weed killer before they all go dormant?What kind of weeds are you talking about? Where do you live again? What kind of grass do you have?
Post by: IPA4Me on September 09, 2014, 06:12:40 PM
Broadleaf, clover and some funny looking clover. I've not been able to positively identify it. Clover style leaf with a dark woody stem. I live in Kentucky near Louisville. Grass is a mixture if fescue and bluegrass. Thx.@slobber Is it a good time for another round of weed killer before they all go dormant?What kind of weeds are you talking about? Where do you live again? What kind of grass do you have?
Post by: _33 on September 09, 2014, 06:14:09 PM
Post by: slobber on September 09, 2014, 06:20:58 PM
Could be dollar weed?Broadleaf, clover and some funny looking clover. I've not been able to positively identify it. Clover style leaf with a dark woody stem. I live in Kentucky near Louisville. Grass is a mixture if fescue and bluegrass. Thx.@slobber Is it a good time for another round of weed killer before they all go dormant?What kind of weeds are you talking about? Where do you live again? What kind of grass do you have?
Yes, you can knock out those broadleaves know with 2,4-D. If you can find something with some "salt of Dicamba" in as well, it will work better.
HOWEVER, do not over-seed for about 30 days, or you will not get a very good germination.
Post by: slobber on September 09, 2014, 06:23:00 PM
dobber when should I aerate and overseed?NE KS? Now, or by the end of the month. You can do it later, I just prefer to do it on the early end. Don't do it if the forecast is excessively hot for the following week-10 days.
Mow short just before overseeding and then keep the grass seed wet to get good germination.
Post by: IPA4Me on September 09, 2014, 06:33:53 PM
Thanks. Dollar weed grows over the septic. However that put me on the right track. Lespedeza is the unidentified crap that has taken hold this summer.Could be dollar weed?Broadleaf, clover and some funny looking clover. I've not been able to positively identify it. Clover style leaf with a dark woody stem. I live in Kentucky near Louisville. Grass is a mixture if fescue and bluegrass. Thx.@slobber Is it a good time for another round of weed killer before they all go dormant?What kind of weeds are you talking about? Where do you live again? What kind of grass do you have?
Yes, you can knock out those broadleaves know with 2,4-D. If you can find something with some "salt of Dicamba" in as well, it will work better.
HOWEVER, do not over-seed for about 30 days, or you will not get a very good germination.
Post by: slobber on September 09, 2014, 06:51:41 PM
Lespedeza is harder to control. Look for something with salt of Dicamba and see if it is on the label. I think it is.Thanks. Dollar weed grows over the septic. However that put me on the right track. Lespedeza is the unidentified crap that has taken hold this summer.Could be dollar weed?Broadleaf, clover and some funny looking clover. I've not been able to positively identify it. Clover style leaf with a dark woody stem. I live in Kentucky near Louisville. Grass is a mixture if fescue and bluegrass. Thx.@slobber Is it a good time for another round of weed killer before they all go dormant?What kind of weeds are you talking about? Where do you live again? What kind of grass do you have?
Yes, you can knock out those broadleaves know with 2,4-D. If you can find something with some "salt of Dicamba" in as well, it will work better.
HOWEVER, do not over-seed for about 30 days, or you will not get a very good germination.
Post by: IPA4Me on September 09, 2014, 07:01:36 PM
Post by: slobber on September 09, 2014, 07:12:46 PM
Thank you. Good news. Spectracide has 2,4-D and salt of dicamba. Just happen to have two quarts ready to go.Make certain lespedeza is on that label. I don't want you wasting your time. Looks under "Weeds Controlled"
Post by: IPA4Me on September 09, 2014, 07:13:21 PM
It's there!Thank you. Good news. Spectracide has 2,4-D and salt of dicamba. Just happen to have two quarts ready to go.Make certain lespedeza is on that label. I don't want you wasting your time. Looks under "Weeds Controlled"
Post by: Cire on September 09, 2014, 07:23:28 PM
Post by: slobber on September 09, 2014, 07:27:31 PM
Aerated and over seeded last weekend cmooooooon rainFirst week of Sept. is my target. For the first time in a bazillion years (ever) I am paying somebody to aerate. $45. I will overseed. Lawn is in pretty good shape, and I didn't want to dick around with trying to organize pickup and return in addition to having to coordinate with a bunch of neighbors that want to use it when I get it. That crap cuts into my bbs'n time. I will over-seed and fertilize.
Post by: Cire on September 09, 2014, 07:28:36 PM
Post by: slobber on September 09, 2014, 07:32:51 PM
That's good I paid that to rent one and do it myselfA "guy" (somebody's guy) is cutting a special deal to everyone in the neighborhood. He will probably do about 25 lawns in two days, so not bad, for an Auburn grad. I think it's $140 for him to aerate and over-seed, but I can do that myself. That'll be enough for me to be able to have to wipe some sweat from my brow and throw back a high life.
Post by: sys on September 09, 2014, 07:41:12 PM
that goddamn bermuda just kept coming all summer. i don't think i knocked it back at all. try again when it cools down a little more or just let them fight it out and whatever is green and survives can stay?
Post by: slobber on September 09, 2014, 08:43:59 PM
dobber,I just talked with one of our tech guys about this a couple of weeks ago and it was also covered at the Turfgrass Field Day at NC State (an actual thing).
that goddamn bermuda just kept coming all summer. i don't think i knocked it back at all. try again when it cools down a little more or just let them fight it out and whatever is green and survives can stay?
From the link below:
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Recently, during one season in California, four sequential applications of a triclopyr (16 fluid ounces/acre Turflon Ester) + fenoxa-prop (24 fluid ounces/acre Acclaim 1EC) tank-mix provided better bermudagrass control in perennial ryegrass than those herbicides applied alone (6). Applications began in early July and were repeated at four- to six-week intervals into October.Yes, I know it is in ryegrass, but note the timing.
http://www2.gcsaa.org/gcm/2001/aug01/08suppress.html (http://www2.gcsaa.org/gcm/2001/aug01/08suppress.html)
Post by: Tobias on September 09, 2014, 10:31:58 PM
Post by: Cire on September 10, 2014, 06:17:51 AM
Post by: IPA4Me on September 10, 2014, 06:33:41 AM
Pay Scotts lawn or true green for weed control. It's virtually the same price as buying your own and diyI have a 1.6 acre lot with some woods in the back. Let's call it an acre of lawn.
$20 three times a year for weed control.
$40 twice a year for fertilizer.
$140 total for a pretty nice lawn and DIY satisfaction.
What are you being charged annually? How big is your lawn?
Post by: Cire on September 10, 2014, 07:01:37 AM
Post by: slobber on September 10, 2014, 07:28:42 AM
I hope you are going to a JDL store to buy what you can there. With an acre, you can use a bit larger package size for a lot less money. Based on what you are saying for cost, I would assume you are going somewhere like that.Pay Scotts lawn or true green for weed control. It's virtually the same price as buying your own and diyI have a 1.6 acre lot with some woods in the back. Let's call it an acre of lawn.
$20 three times a year for weed control.
$40 twice a year for fertilizer.
$140 total for a pretty nice lawn and DIY satisfaction.
What are you being charged annually? How big is your lawn?
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: puniraptor on September 10, 2014, 07:30:58 AM
Post by: slobber on September 10, 2014, 07:40:13 AM
i just did weed n feed in the spring and that worked for awhile but now my lawn is 110% crab grass.next year do a split application. Half at the time you did this year and the other half a month later.
Crabgrass can be controlled. But you do not want to get too far behind.
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: puniraptor on September 10, 2014, 07:42:24 AM
i just did weed n feed in the spring and that worked for awhile but now my lawn is 110% crab grass.next year do a split application. Half at the time you did this year and the other half a month later.
Crabgrass can be controlled. But you do not want to get too far behind.
Gonna win 'em all!
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: CNS on September 10, 2014, 07:52:17 AM
Post by: CNS on September 10, 2014, 07:53:26 AM
Post by: IPA4Me on September 10, 2014, 08:22:22 AM
Thanks for the tip. I'll check some larger volume buys at the beginning of next season.I hope you are going to a JDL store to buy what you can there. With an acre, you can use a bit larger package size for a lot less money. Based on what you are saying for cost, I would assume you are going somewhere like that.Pay Scotts lawn or true green for weed control. It's virtually the same price as buying your own and diyI have a 1.6 acre lot with some woods in the back. Let's call it an acre of lawn.
$20 three times a year for weed control.
$40 twice a year for fertilizer.
$140 total for a pretty nice lawn and DIY satisfaction.
What are you being charged annually? How big is your lawn?
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: _33 on September 10, 2014, 08:29:44 AM
I get super on top of lawn stuff in spring and then treat it like a chore in summer. Ugh.
Yeah gets really tiresome by late summer/fall. It's like OK grass and weeds I get it, you love to grow, just get lost you idiots.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 10, 2014, 08:59:01 AM
Post by: slobber on September 10, 2014, 04:23:35 PM
fairy ring control....go!Need to see what is registered for residential use. Will get back to you.
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: sys on September 10, 2014, 04:27:29 PM
Yes, I know it is in ryegrass, but note the timing.
http://www2.gcsaa.org/gcm/2001/aug01/08suppress.html (http://www2.gcsaa.org/gcm/2001/aug01/08suppress.html)
all right, i'll double down until it gets cold and see if something can get accomplished.
Post by: IPA4Me on September 15, 2014, 07:30:55 AM
Thank you. Good news. Spectracide has 2,4-D and salt of dicamba. Just happen to have two quarts ready to go.Make certain lespedeza is on that label. I don't want you wasting your time. Looks under "Weeds Controlled"
Lespedeza is browning nicely in most areas. No plans to overseed this year. Would you hammer it again after three or four weeks or would overseeding be a better course around October 1?
Post by: steve dave on September 15, 2014, 08:42:54 AM
Post by: IPA4Me on September 15, 2014, 10:17:26 AM
mowed my lawn diagnol (sp?) this weekend. :surprised:Like a boss. I like the way diagonal looks from the curb.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 15, 2014, 11:56:25 AM
Is Husqvarna any good? Haven't ever heard of them because I've been out of the lawnmower game for about ten years and they seem like a newfangled brand or something. Name's weird. Probably gonna go Toro but just thought I would ask.
Post by: CNS on September 15, 2014, 11:59:49 AM
If you have a tiny New Orleans yard I bet diagonal looks weird.
Is Husqvarna any good? Haven't ever heard of them because I've been out of the lawnmower game for about ten years and they seem like a newfangled brand or something. Name's weird. Probably gonna go Toro but just thought I would ask.
They make good chainsaws. :dunno:
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 15, 2014, 12:34:04 PM
If you have a tiny New Orleans yard I bet diagonal looks weird.
Is Husqvarna any good? Haven't ever heard of them because I've been out of the lawnmower game for about ten years and they seem like a newfangled brand or something. Name's weird. Probably gonna go Toro but just thought I would ask.
Husqvarna is one of the main mower manufacturers. They make the nicer Craftsmans, Ariens, Poulan, and a few others.
Post by: slobber on September 15, 2014, 03:31:34 PM
fairy ring control....go!Anything with a strobilurin will prevent it. Tougher to cure.
Look for trifloxystrobin, azoxystrobin...I think they will all end in strobin as the active ingredient. Not sure what you will find at Lowes/Home Depot. At a JDL type store, look for Armada (brand name).
(sorry, I forgot about this question.)
Post by: slobber on September 15, 2014, 03:37:36 PM
If you have healthy looking turf and no issues with poor soil quality, then hit the lespedeza again.Thank you. Good news. Spectracide has 2,4-D and salt of dicamba. Just happen to have two quarts ready to go.Make certain lespedeza is on that label. I don't want you wasting your time. Looks under "Weeds Controlled"
Lespedeza is browning nicely in most areas. No plans to overseed this year. Would you hammer it again after three or four weeks or would overseeding be a better course around October 1?
However, aeration and overseeding can improve soil structure and overall health of your lawn. The best (in my opinion, only) time to aerate and overseed is in the fall. If you think you want to do that, then don't use any more 2, 4-D this fall. You can always take the broadleaves (lespedeza) out next year.
Post by: IPA4Me on September 15, 2014, 04:12:40 PM
Post by: Frankenklein on September 15, 2014, 04:51:10 PM
Motorcycles tooIf you have a tiny New Orleans yard I bet diagonal looks weird.
Is Husqvarna any good? Haven't ever heard of them because I've been out of the lawnmower game for about ten years and they seem like a newfangled brand or something. Name's weird. Probably gonna go Toro but just thought I would ask.
Husqvarna is one of the main mower manufacturers. They make the nicer Craftsmans, Ariens, Poulan, and a few others.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 15, 2014, 08:04:02 PM
Post by: Frankenklein on September 15, 2014, 08:57:13 PM
mowed my lawn diagnol (sp?) this weekend. :surprised:I bet that look ties in nicely with your chamfered drywall corners
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 15, 2014, 09:04:42 PM
Link me to the best regular Joe backyard hose in the world. Go.
get a craftsman all rubber....lifetime warranty
Post by: slobber on September 15, 2014, 09:17:26 PM
mowed my lawn diagnol (sp?) this weekend. :surprised:Oh man! :love:
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: IPA4Me on March 12, 2015, 08:05:59 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 13, 2015, 08:56:03 AM
I've tried smoke bombs (only deterred them for a short amount of time), poison pellets, and traps. I'm using traps right now and so far no luck. My next and last effort before I dig up my back yard will be the poison gummy worms that look like grubs.
I use GrubEx every year. I think the biggest problem is my back yard backs up to a berm. The tunnels all come from the berm. I'm thinking about throwing down Grub killer and GrubEx around the berm and outside my property line. My neighbors who also back up to the berm are having problems as well.
Anyone have success stories? I really love my yard and this is awful to witness.
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 13, 2015, 09:09:30 AM
1) Lawn chair
2) Beer
3) Shovels (x3)
Steps:
1) Walk all over your yard, follow each tunnel stepping on it and stomping the tunnels down. All of them
2) Sit down and enjoy your beer, it may be a while (don't get too paked, the dirty work has not yet begun)
3) After a time, you will notice tunnels previously stomped are popping back up. This is where your moles are.
4) Drive a shovel into each end of the tunnel that has popped back up, trapping the mole in a finite space.
5) Work your way between the two points with something hard and sharp, do what must be done.
http://pestkill.org/moles/getting-rid-of-moles/ (http://pestkill.org/moles/getting-rid-of-moles/)
Post by: puniraptor on March 13, 2015, 09:29:40 AM
WHEN DO I WEEDNFEED? also i got weednbugs due to a chigger problem last year
when do i do those in relation to each other?
Post by: ben ji on March 13, 2015, 09:51:13 AM
Front yard is about 3/4 thick bermuda grass that is fine but the 1/4 of the yard closest to the street is infested with all sorts of crap(Weeds/clover/random grasses/bermuda). It looks fine in the summer but in the spring its covered dandelions. Last year I just mowed the yard about twice a week to keep it respectable but something needs to be done.
Thick Bermuda
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Transition to shitty part
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Shitty part
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F15%2F03%2F13%2F8f6ea54c83b784abc218b1a350fa9749.jpg&hash=8bdd4e23c78939df79fc97e1760fc09eb6f1178f)
My questions-
1. Is there a way I can encourage the bermuda grass to take it that portion of the lawn back over without tilling it up and reseeding it?
2. If so what steps should I take to do this.
Post by: Cire on March 13, 2015, 10:02:34 AM
240 bucks for a year of treatments. 10 I think.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 13, 2015, 10:07:37 AM
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 13, 2015, 01:04:19 PM
http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/hiyield-4d-selective-weed-killer-p-1723.html (http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/hiyield-4d-selective-weed-killer-p-1723.html)
Or before, or whatever. Its foolproof. Just keep it off any flowers or vegetables... it won't kill grass but it kills the crap out of everything else.
Post by: Cire on March 13, 2015, 01:16:39 PM
should I just put some dirt in the low spots and seed the crap out of it now or wait until fall?
Post by: sys on March 13, 2015, 02:39:45 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on March 13, 2015, 10:52:53 PM
Post by: slobber on March 14, 2015, 07:51:49 AM
For one, yes, you can spray regular roundup right in dormant Bermuda grass. Make certain you don't buy the roundup that has an additional preemergent herbicide mixed in. It will claim 3 or 6 months control (or something like that).
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: Cire on March 14, 2015, 08:06:11 AM
decide if you enjoy that and proceed from there.
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 14, 2015, 09:12:32 AM
Post by: Duncan on March 14, 2015, 10:05:02 AM
I have St Augustine grass on clay under a shitload of trees. It's thin and I have weeds. Someone tell me how to make it super beautiful, thanks
Are they larger established trees? Have you ever had them thinned out? If they are providing dense shade that might be contributing. Not too familiar with St. Aug but it looks like it should tolerate moderate shade. Is the area shaded for most of the day? It might be making the ground too cold for the lawn to establish before the weeds take over, thinning it out.
Is it just thin, or is it also looking yellow and unhealthy? The clay soil might not be draining properly and choking the grass.
Also, what species tree(s)? A few trees release chemicals into the ground to kill or weaken other competing plants nearby.
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 14, 2015, 10:39:33 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 14, 2015, 10:49:32 AM
Post by: Gooch on March 14, 2015, 01:43:35 PM
Post by: steve dave on March 14, 2015, 01:55:33 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on March 14, 2015, 02:17:40 PM
Post by: sys on March 14, 2015, 06:22:18 PM
yards. my goal every year is to stand in mine and say it's not the worst that i can see. fairly tough competition though. i just lay down cheap crabgrass preventer stuff from menards in early april and then spot spray crap once a week. total cost- $40.
you can probably by that same stuff at other stores. just something to plan on for the future, i'm not saying you should throw out any product you've already purchased from menards.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 14, 2015, 07:18:12 PM
yards. my goal every year is to stand in mine and say it's not the worst that i can see. fairly tough competition though. i just lay down cheap crabgrass preventer stuff from menards in early april and then spot spray crap once a week. total cost- $40.
you can probably by that same stuff at other stores. just something to plan on for the future, i'm not saying you should throw out any product you've already purchased from menards.
yeah. menards is just the cheapest. i said $40 but it's probably closer to $30. also i have a "sprinkler guy" that blows my lines out for free in november and then i have the "long metal tool thing" to turn them back on and just do it myself in the spring.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 14, 2015, 09:33:01 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on March 15, 2015, 10:21:30 PM
I use the scott's turf builder 4 times a year treatment. People tell me my lawn looks nice.
Is that the thing with the little green wheel barrow-looking thingy that you pour junk in and then the little spinner thing underneath the wheel barrow thing spins and sprays seeds everywhere or whatever?
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 15, 2015, 10:49:57 PM
I use the scott's turf builder 4 times a year treatment. People tell me my lawn looks nice.
Is that the thing with the little green wheel barrow-looking thingy that you pour junk in and then the little spinner thing underneath the wheel barrow thing spins and sprays seeds everywhere or whatever?
that's a spreader. you put stuff in it and then run around your lawn with it and then your lawn does better. disclaimer: I am a lawn care beginner and as I said above my lawn is imperfect.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 16, 2015, 08:51:33 AM
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 16, 2015, 04:34:24 PM
I bought the little gummy poison worms for the moles, but haven't used them yet. I'm pretty sure I got a mole with my traps though. There was blood on a spike but he somehow got away. I have not had mole activity since then.
I bought a mole trap and it sprung but there was no mole. Now the trap won't reset. I'm pretty upset
Post by: SkinnyBenny on March 16, 2015, 04:45:09 PM
Post by: CNS on March 16, 2015, 04:46:27 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 16, 2015, 04:47:48 PM
So wait should I get one of those spreader things or not?
It just depends on whether you want a nice yard or not.
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 16, 2015, 08:51:11 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 16, 2015, 09:24:08 PM
Post by: CNS on March 16, 2015, 09:25:01 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on March 16, 2015, 10:49:24 PM
:bball: :ksu: Got the spreader!!!!!!!!!!! :emawkid: :billdance:
Post by: wetwillie on March 16, 2015, 10:50:30 PM
Hey guys. Guys. Guess what.
:bball: :ksu: Got the spreader!!!!!!!!!!! :emawkid: :billdance:
Did you commit to something to put in it too?
Post by: slackcat on March 17, 2015, 05:31:45 AM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on March 17, 2015, 09:20:02 AM
Hey guys. Guys. Guess what.
:bball: :ksu: Got the spreader!!!!!!!!!!! :emawkid: :billdance:
Did you commit to something to put in it too?
Yep, Altoids
Post by: XocolateThundarr on March 17, 2015, 09:50:04 AM
Post by: michigancat on March 17, 2015, 09:55:03 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on March 17, 2015, 10:06:48 AM
Post by: puniraptor on March 17, 2015, 10:30:20 AM
are they still good? i bet so.
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 17, 2015, 11:26:41 AM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on March 17, 2015, 12:13:07 PM
Why do people rake instead of running over all the leaves with a mower and bagging them? Seems silly.
Cuz on those sweet sweet summer nights it just isn't the same letting your kid crawl inside of a lawnmower bag to play in the leaves.
Post by: slobber on March 17, 2015, 12:17:58 PM
i bought all the yard chemicals on clearance last fall (from menards)still good
are they still good? i bet so.
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: CNS on March 17, 2015, 12:38:38 PM
Why do people rake instead of running over all the leaves with a mower and bagging them? Seems silly.
Too much can create a thatch on top of the soil. the idea being that it will prevent the soil from getting as much heat or water as it needs. mow over most of the time. When cutting a lot off, I go in a circle/square/whatevs and blow the clippings to the center then rake the center. Also, I usually thatch in the fall. Never really had a problem.
Is there something I am missing, Dobs?
Post by: slobber on March 17, 2015, 12:41:07 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: slobber on March 17, 2015, 12:42:43 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: slobber on March 17, 2015, 12:43:28 PM
Www.mowhighguys.com
It's a real thing.
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: CNS on March 17, 2015, 12:46:36 PM
Post by: CNS on March 17, 2015, 12:49:38 PM
Post by: _33 on March 17, 2015, 01:05:28 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 17, 2015, 01:12:47 PM
Post by: CNS on March 17, 2015, 01:16:58 PM
What happens if you have like a natural yard in Kansas that you don't have to water and maybe only mow or something?
Mow high, I guess.
Post by: XocolateThundarr on March 17, 2015, 01:19:58 PM
What happens if you have like a natural yard in Kansas that you don't have to water and maybe only mow or something?
I am slowly turning my yard over to all bermuda. If I had to water my yard consistently, it would cost me around $400 a month in water.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 17, 2015, 02:41:50 PM
Post by: Spracne on March 17, 2015, 03:31:53 PM
My yard guys were working so hard yesterday I almost wanted to go out and help them
This one time, my dad had some Mexicans working so hard on his property that he went down to the gas station and picked up a 12er of Tecate and presented it to them in a bucket with ice and lime wedges. I'm sure they appreciated it, but I was all like, 'daaaaaaaaaaaaad :facepalm:'
Post by: Cire on March 17, 2015, 04:11:48 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 17, 2015, 04:18:06 PM
My yard guys were working so hard yesterday I almost wanted to go out and help them
This one time, my dad had some Mexicans working so hard on his property that he went down to the gas station and picked up a 12er of Tecate and presented it to them in a bucket with ice and lime wedges. I'm sure they appreciated it, but I was all like, 'daaaaaaaaaaaaad :facepalm:'
"Dad, they like Clamato"
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 17, 2015, 11:12:27 PM
Post by: sys on March 17, 2015, 11:15:11 PM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on March 17, 2015, 11:17:31 PM
I think I'm going to scalp my shitty St Augustine this fall and put down a tall fescue over it. I'm pretty much as far south as you can go in the tall fescue neato super growing zone, but from what I've read it does well in north Texas when it has some shade to protect it from the heat, well brother I got shade to spare. Then I'll just overseed with it every spring or when it thins out. I was going to plant it like this weekend, but I just found out I can't because I just put down a weed killer :frown: but it's ok because the internet says it grows best in the fall anyway! :D Anyway I just thought you guys might like to hear about my exciting grass planting activities that will happen like 6 or 7 months from now.
Make sure to post pictures of the grass growth this fall with a Miller Lite pounder included for scale.
Post by: slobber on March 18, 2015, 12:22:39 AM
dobber, my grass is killing my clover. i don't think i'm overfertilizing, what am i doing wrong and what can i do to change?you won't be able to have both long term. You must choose. Choose wisely.
I forgot, what kind of grass do you have? Maybe mowing shorter would help the clover a bit more. Www.mowshortguys.com is not a real thing, just a decent hunch that the grass will not compete as well when it is short. Can't believe I am helping somebody grow rough ridin' weeds.
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: slackcat on March 18, 2015, 03:35:14 AM
(Or mow high)
Www.mowhighguys.com
It's a real thing.
Gonna win 'em all!
Been doin' it for years. Sporting some lush weed free fescue.
Post by: slobber on March 18, 2015, 06:10:24 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: CNS on March 18, 2015, 09:31:00 AM
Post by: sys on March 18, 2015, 11:08:13 AM
dobber, my grass is killing my clover. i don't think i'm overfertilizing, what am i doing wrong and what can i do to change?you won't be able to have both long term. You must choose. Choose wisely.
I forgot, what kind of grass do you have? Maybe mowing shorter would help the clover a bit more. Www.mowshortguys.com is not a real thing, just a decent hunch that the grass will not compete as well when it is short. Can't believe I am helping somebody grow rough ridin' weeds.
Gonna win 'em all!
supposed to be tall fescue, but i have a lot of invasive bermuda. both seem to be ganging up on the clover. i mow high and as infrequently as possible. the first to help the fescue fight the bermuda, the second because i hate mowing.
my poor clover. :cry:
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 18, 2015, 04:47:24 PM
Post by: Spracne on March 18, 2015, 04:50:25 PM
Post by: mocat on March 18, 2015, 06:28:54 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 18, 2015, 08:25:26 PM
I have found that lawn maintenance differs drastically depending on where you live in the state. Like, it's a totally different game in the KC metro vs. Western Kansas (Baldwin City, for example).
:moreira:
Post by: sys on March 18, 2015, 10:04:49 PM
sys, I have a lot of clover that you can have. I also have like 2 dozen other varieties of plants in my yard that you can have as well.
i'll email you my pm.
Post by: star seed 7 on March 18, 2015, 10:07:56 PM
Post by: sys on March 18, 2015, 10:23:32 PM
Post by: Gooch on March 19, 2015, 11:14:21 AM
Post by: mocat on March 19, 2015, 11:17:08 AM
fully disclose that i don't know what clover is
crimson:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.kaneva.com%2Ffilestore7%2F3394314%2F4916000%2FcrimsonUred.jpg&hash=4f82e06fa87207fcee20becfee7424cba5f8c258)
clover:
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Post by: deputy dawg on March 20, 2015, 07:07:14 AM
I have found that lawn maintenance differs drastically depending on where you live in the state. Like, it's a totally different game in the KC metro vs. Western Kansas (Baldwin City, for example).
:D
Post by: cDubya on March 20, 2015, 07:41:34 AM
fully disclose that i don't know what clover is
crimson:
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clover:
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This was great.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 21, 2015, 08:30:33 AM
Post by: ben ji on March 21, 2015, 05:50:36 PM
Where do you JOCO area emaws buy your yard rock from? I need prob a ton or so
My bro recommends suburban lawn and garden.
Post by: Frankenklein on March 22, 2015, 10:43:28 AM
Yes,I could look at it over and overfully disclose that i don't know what clover is
crimson:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.kaneva.com%2Ffilestore7%2F3394314%2F4916000%2FcrimsonUred.jpg&hash=4f82e06fa87207fcee20becfee7424cba5f8c258)
clover:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.manataka.org%2Fimages%2FClover.jpg&hash=91d7210f9e8c99fc97240f182cff552562f3a68f)
This was great.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 22, 2015, 10:53:58 AM
Post by: CNS on March 22, 2015, 01:13:35 PM
Post by: CNS on March 22, 2015, 01:14:39 PM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 23, 2015, 11:11:57 AM
Mowed low, raked full, aerated, and fertilized. looks great and will look even better if we get any of the rain we are forecasted to get this week.
how did the tow behind aerator work?
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2015, 11:59:02 AM
I am actually looking at a similar trailer that picks up grass and leaves. I saw one this winter for like $180 by the same brand as my aerator. Will probably grab it when I get my shed built.
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 12:00:45 PM
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2015, 12:02:39 PM
Post by: _33 on March 23, 2015, 12:13:49 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 23, 2015, 01:23:16 PM
Tree, shrub, ground cover?
tree
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 01:50:10 PM
I don't eat enough tomatoes to grow them, though.
what about carrots and lettuce and green beans?
Post by: sys on March 23, 2015, 02:11:31 PM
you guys should grow tomatoes in your yards
i do!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 23, 2015, 02:16:16 PM
I used it last fall and it worked very well. This weekend, I didn't get quite as much penetration, since we didn't have near as much moisture in the ground, but it worked well enough that I didn't want to spend half the day on the sprinkler. I would def recommend it.
I am actually looking at a similar trailer that picks up grass and leaves. I saw one this winter for like $180 by the same brand as my aerator. Will probably grab it when I get my shed built.
my buddy has one of those (lawn vacuum I think they called it) leaf catchers. his neighbor gave it to him.
it sucks.
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 02:17:25 PM
you guys should grow tomatoes in your yards
i do!
front yard?
Post by: sys on March 23, 2015, 02:23:07 PM
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2015, 02:50:32 PM
I don't eat enough tomatoes to grow them, though.
what about carrots and lettuce and green beans?
Too much yard to do it all in that. would need to work less hours to maintain it at 1+ acre.
Post by: _33 on March 23, 2015, 02:53:43 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 23, 2015, 02:57:07 PM
My F-I-L said that I should wait until the hottest part of the summer, kill everything, wait 2 weeks, kill everything again, till it up, overseed in fall. Is this accurate?
If you are ok with having nothing in your yard but bare earth for 2 months, that should work.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2015, 03:02:06 PM
So, if you kill it all mid august, you can be seeding Sept 1. Would be perfect.
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 03:03:06 PM
I don't eat enough tomatoes to grow them, though.
what about carrots and lettuce and green beans?
Too much yard to do it all in that. would need to work less hours to maintain it at 1+ acre.
you should build another house or two on that yard or something. good grief.
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2015, 03:42:31 PM
I used it last fall and it worked very well. This weekend, I didn't get quite as much penetration, since we didn't have near as much moisture in the ground, but it worked well enough that I didn't want to spend half the day on the sprinkler. I would def recommend it.
I am actually looking at a similar trailer that picks up grass and leaves. I saw one this winter for like $180 by the same brand as my aerator. Will probably grab it when I get my shed built.
my buddy has one of those (lawn vacuum I think they called it) leaf catchers. his neighbor gave it to him.
it sucks.
This one is a sweeper, not a vacuum. Also thinking about getting a bagger instead. :dunno:
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2015, 03:43:32 PM
I don't eat enough tomatoes to grow them, though.
what about carrots and lettuce and green beans?
Too much yard to do it all in that. would need to work less hours to maintain it at 1+ acre.
you should build another house or two on that yard or something. good grief.
If KS wasn't a crap climate, I would fill it with citrus trees.
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 03:44:44 PM
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2015, 03:48:21 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 03:49:21 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2015, 03:53:02 PM
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2015, 04:16:47 PM
don't you already have a tractor? Might as well buy a plow.
Not that kind of tractor. (https://www.deere.com.au/common/media/images/product/riding_mowers/lawn_tractors/100_series_2011_model_year/d125/r4b004784_D125_642x462.png)
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 04:21:10 PM
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2015, 04:33:17 PM
Post by: slobber on March 23, 2015, 04:38:52 PM
Just be diligent in the battle. You can stay ahead of it, so it's more like jeepers creepers guy. One every 23 years for 23 days.
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 04:48:14 PM
33, you will still have to fight that Bermuda. You can't kill it. It's Jason.
Just be diligent in the battle. You can stay ahead of it, so it's more like jeepers creepers guy. One every 23 years for 23 days.
Gonna win 'em all!
bermuda seems to do pretty well in kansas, why would you even try to fight it?
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2015, 04:48:47 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 23, 2015, 04:58:26 PM
Post by: sys on March 23, 2015, 07:27:26 PM
Post by: Cire on March 24, 2015, 12:15:00 PM
When can I seed the thin spots?
Post by: slobber on March 24, 2015, 01:44:15 PM
I just had my preventative stuff put down.3 months or so. Sorry. You might get some to grow sooner, but you did this out of order.
When can I seed the thin spots?
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: puniraptor on March 24, 2015, 01:47:12 PM
Post by: Johnny Wichita on March 24, 2015, 01:53:52 PM
33, you will still have to fight that Bermuda. You can't kill it. It's Jason.
Just be diligent in the battle. You can stay ahead of it, so it's more like jeepers creepers guy. One every 23 years for 23 days.
Gonna win 'em all!
bermuda seems to do pretty well in kansas, why would you even try to fight it?
bermuda is awful. the only upside is that you can get away with zero maintenance and it will still thrive. zoysia thrives with little maintenance but is amazeballs like beautiful, natural outdoor carpet.
Post by: slobber on March 24, 2015, 01:56:11 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2015, 01:57:37 PM
33, you will still have to fight that Bermuda. You can't kill it. It's Jason.
Just be diligent in the battle. You can stay ahead of it, so it's more like jeepers creepers guy. One every 23 years for 23 days.
Gonna win 'em all!
bermuda seems to do pretty well in kansas, why would you even try to fight it?
bermuda is awful. the only upside is that you can get away with zero maintenance and it will still thrive. zoysia thrives with little maintenance but is amazeballs like beautiful, natural outdoor carpet.
just lay down outdoor carpet. don't know why more people don't do this.
Post by: Skipper44 on March 24, 2015, 02:20:41 PM
I believe turf guru slobber confirmed this before but can't he still put some seed down in thin spots as long as he includes some fresh dirt/seed starter mix for it to germinate in?I just had my preventative stuff put down.3 months or so. Sorry. You might get some to grow sooner, but you did this out of order.
When can I seed the thin spots?
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: slobber on March 24, 2015, 05:23:37 PM
Yes, but is not likely to get a great stand. You could also buy some charcoal and mix that in the soil. That will neutralize the herbicide. (This is a real thing.)I believe turf guru slobber confirmed this before but can't he still put some seed down in thin spots as long as he includes some fresh dirt/seed starter mix for it to germinate in?I just had my preventative stuff put down.3 months or so. Sorry. You might get some to grow sooner, but you did this out of order.
When can I seed the thin spots?
Gonna win 'em all!
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: Cire on March 24, 2015, 05:25:24 PM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 24, 2015, 09:56:42 PM
I used it last fall and it worked very well. This weekend, I didn't get quite as much penetration, since we didn't have near as much moisture in the ground, but it worked well enough that I didn't want to spend half the day on the sprinkler. I would def recommend it.
I am actually looking at a similar trailer that picks up grass and leaves. I saw one this winter for like $180 by the same brand as my aerator. Will probably grab it when I get my shed built.
my buddy has one of those (lawn vacuum I think they called it) leaf catchers. his neighbor gave it to him.
it sucks.
This one is a sweeper, not a vacuum. Also thinking about getting a bagger instead. :dunno:
yeah, lawn sweeper, thats it. Not a vaccum.
Baggers always jam for me with leaves, though when i bagged I had 5 huge sycamores.
Post by: slobber on March 25, 2015, 01:07:58 AM
What about charcoal ashes? I have tons of that. Also what if I layer on some top soil?I'm not sure. I'll ask around tomorrow.
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: Tobias on March 28, 2015, 12:58:45 AM
Post by: sys on March 28, 2015, 01:02:47 AM
how is the mint crop looking this year, @sys?
earwigs are tearing it apart. i'm gonna half to poison them and crop it back to get some fresh growth.
Post by: Tobias on March 28, 2015, 01:03:56 AM
Post by: sys on March 28, 2015, 01:15:15 AM
they aren't hard to destruct. the problem is there are about 50 billion of them in my neighborhood.
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2015, 01:25:56 AM
Post by: Tobias on March 28, 2015, 01:37:39 AM
Post by: slobber on March 28, 2015, 05:20:46 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.batzner.com%2Fimages%2Fpestdb%2Fearwig-md.jpg&hash=ee78d7f781a821ba2135a33745648e0618f4e65b)smart post by smart poster. No surprises here.
they aren't hard to destruct. the problem is there are about 50 billion of them in my neighborhood.
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: SdK on March 31, 2015, 01:00:03 PM
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2015, 01:04:33 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.batzner.com%2Fimages%2Fpestdb%2Fearwig-md.jpg&hash=ee78d7f781a821ba2135a33745648e0618f4e65b)smart post by smart poster. No surprises here.
they aren't hard to destruct. the problem is there are about 50 billion of them in my neighborhood.
Gonna win 'em all!
is the butt part some sort of lobster claw or something?
Post by: CNS on March 31, 2015, 02:14:12 PM
Post by: Cire on March 31, 2015, 02:17:17 PM
Post by: CNS on March 31, 2015, 02:20:27 PM
I'm going to chop up the thin parts of my back yard. Bring in some top soil and then seed and water this weekend.
Why is the grass thin? Shitty soil? Shade?
If shitty soil, something I have done in the past that was very successful was to put down a layer of cotton bur compost and peat. Gets a bunch of nutrients in the soil. I am no pro, but this worked really well for a back yard I used to have that was very clay heavy.
Post by: Skipper44 on March 31, 2015, 03:03:12 PM
I'm going to chop up the thin parts of my back yard. Bring in some top soil and then seed and water this weekend.does chop up = rototill?
I did that to get rid of mulched play area in my first home pre kids. Mixed in some peat and manure and whatnot and it almost worked too well, instead of a 15 x 25 foot area of mulch I had 15 x 25 area of much better lawn.
Post by: deputy dawg on March 31, 2015, 03:44:02 PM
So, I laid down 10 bucks and got this:
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Squishes 'em to death. Varmints! Note the claws on either side of the trigger--gets those bastards whether they are coming or going.
Post by: Cire on March 31, 2015, 08:35:22 PM
New house but combo of shade and drainage issuesI'm going to chop up the thin parts of my back yard. Bring in some top soil and then seed and water this weekend.
Why is the grass thin? Shitty soil? Shade?
If shitty soil, something I have done in the past that was very successful was to put down a layer of cotton bur compost and peat. Gets a bunch of nutrients in the soil. I am no pro, but this worked really well for a back yard I used to have that was very clay heavy.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 31, 2015, 08:51:16 PM
Does anyone use a lawn service in Manhattan? If so, what are the costs and service like?
i don't but my yard was pretty good when i moved in. crabgrass stuff, water enough and then spot spray when needed and my yard stays good enough. i don't think a lawn service makes any sense unless your lawn is already good. could be wrong. dunno.
Post by: SdK on March 31, 2015, 09:44:49 PM
I guess I should have specified. I'm asking for a friend who is looking to have their lawn mowed and edged instead of doing it themselves.Does anyone use a lawn service in Manhattan? If so, what are the costs and service like?
i don't but my yard was pretty good when i moved in. crabgrass stuff, water enough and then spot spray when needed and my yard stays good enough. i don't think a lawn service makes any sense unless your lawn is already good. could be wrong. dunno.
Post by: ShellShock on April 01, 2015, 03:36:04 PM
Post by: slobber on April 01, 2015, 03:53:09 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: slobber on April 01, 2015, 03:53:36 PM
GUYS!!!!!! I am in a meeting RIGHT NOW with a really really big lawn care company!!!!! RIGHT NOW!!!!!!like REALLY REALLY REALLY big company!
Gonna win 'em all!
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: hatingfrancisco on April 01, 2015, 04:54:21 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 01, 2015, 06:31:09 PM
GUYS!!!!!! I am in a meeting RIGHT NOW with a really really big lawn care company!!!!! RIGHT NOW!!!!!!like REALLY REALLY REALLY big company!
Gonna win 'em all!
Gonna win 'em all!
Just say it dork
Post by: slobber on April 01, 2015, 09:08:45 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: steve dave on April 01, 2015, 09:18:47 PM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on April 01, 2015, 10:10:35 PM
Post by: slobber on April 02, 2015, 05:38:36 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: sys on April 02, 2015, 07:15:48 AM
Post by: slobber on April 02, 2015, 07:34:31 AM
dobber, why have you moved around the country so much? all career related?yes. But have been here for 8 years. Not planning on moving again anytime soon. At least I'm not looking around at out of state opportunities within my current company.
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: sys on April 02, 2015, 02:45:48 PM
have been here for 8 years. Not planning on moving again anytime soon. At least I'm not looking around at out of state opportunities within my current company.
were you job-hopping or moving around within your company? i know you do something that involves you knowing a shitton about grass and grass eating organisms, but what is it that you actually do?
Post by: star seed 7 on April 02, 2015, 04:55:05 PM
Post by: slobber on April 02, 2015, 04:59:11 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: slobber on April 02, 2015, 05:04:33 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: slobber on April 02, 2015, 05:05:45 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: The Big Train on April 02, 2015, 07:31:23 PM
Anyone here actually in the business in KC? I have a pretty tricky sprinkler system that is probably older than the dinosaurs and need some minor valve help. TIA
it should be flyer wedged in your door season right now i would imagine, i bet out of the 100 you get there will be a sprinkler one in there
Post by: puniraptor on April 05, 2015, 07:57:26 PM
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Snake?
Post by: The Big Train on April 05, 2015, 08:15:04 PM
Post by: puniraptor on April 05, 2015, 08:27:24 PM
Post by: CNS on April 05, 2015, 08:28:18 PM
Post by: The Big Train on April 05, 2015, 08:30:08 PM
Post by: ben ji on April 05, 2015, 08:33:58 PM
Post by: puniraptor on April 05, 2015, 08:49:37 PM
Does the hole actually go into the ground for passage? Squirrels have been tearing up my yard and garden with tiny holes like that, just a couple inches deep but no actual tunnel.....I'm assuming they think they have buried an acorn there and went to go find it?I don't know!
Post by: star seed 7 on April 05, 2015, 08:50:48 PM
Post by: CNS on April 05, 2015, 08:51:54 PM
Post by: puniraptor on April 05, 2015, 09:09:07 PM
stick your wiener in and find outI was going to tell you guys how deep it was but now I can't
Post by: Cire on April 06, 2015, 03:08:07 PM
Post by: GoodForAnother on April 12, 2015, 07:56:57 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on April 30, 2015, 01:26:39 PM
We called out a landscaper yesterday to give us a quote on a French drain, and holy crap, it's going to cost like $5000 dollars. Granted, it's going to be a big one, since it has to run the entire length of our back yard and then back in a little bit due to the drainage, but that still feels really high. He quoted it for 130 feet.
Anyone do a French drain for these sorts of things, and how much did you pay for it?
Post by: Panjandrum on April 30, 2015, 01:27:46 PM
I also had a squirrel nest in one of my gutters. We got that taken care of, but man, squirrels really like to just screw with all of you crap.
Post by: steve dave on April 30, 2015, 01:37:00 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on April 30, 2015, 01:39:29 PM
I'm going to mow my yard this afternoon. 3rd time this year!
Did you put your fertilizer with crabgrass preventer down between the 2nd and 3rd mowing?
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 30, 2015, 01:41:16 PM
I'm going to mow my yard this afternoon. 3rd time this year!
me too! :excited:
Post by: steve dave on April 30, 2015, 01:43:50 PM
I'm going to mow my yard this afternoon. 3rd time this year!
Did you put your fertilizer with crabgrass preventer down between the 2nd and 3rd mowing?
my guy did something but I'm not 100% sure what
Post by: puniraptor on April 30, 2015, 02:06:19 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on April 30, 2015, 03:37:57 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 30, 2015, 07:08:30 PM
also 5k for a french drain sounds like you're getting super ripped off
Post by: Tobias on April 30, 2015, 07:14:54 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 30, 2015, 07:19:08 PM
Post by: GoodForAnother on April 30, 2015, 10:13:54 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on April 30, 2015, 11:59:25 PM
where do you live panj?
Overland Park
Post by: Panjandrum on May 01, 2015, 12:02:38 AM
my foundation guy told me a french drain is like $30/foot. I'm just going to build my own.
He quoted 130', so based on your guy's price, that is about $3900. I guess he wants to do some more smooth, decorative gravel which will increase the cost but decrease the likelihood that my children will become injured if they fall on it. Maybe my guy isn't too far off. We're still going to get another couple of quotes.
My house kind of sits on a slope, so it's about 30' from my foundation. But it just pools in my backyard along the fence. It's annoying as hell. Our backyard is big but effectively worthless because it's a mosquito infested swamp land.
Post by: CNS on May 01, 2015, 07:42:35 AM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on May 01, 2015, 08:03:51 AM
1) Does this pathetic patch have any chance at all of regaining life?
2) If yes, what else does it need if anything?
2) If not, what should I do about it?
3) Also what kind of grass is this?
Picture from like 3-4 weeks ago:
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Picture from yesterday:
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Sorry for the pic quality. Also sorry for the grass quality. :flush:
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 01, 2015, 08:15:58 AM
Post by: CNS on May 01, 2015, 09:12:33 AM
Post by: Skipper44 on May 01, 2015, 09:20:14 AM
What about planting a River Birch or two in the area, a lot easier and cheapermy foundation guy told me a french drain is like $30/foot. I'm just going to build my own.
He quoted 130', so based on your guy's price, that is about $3900. I guess he wants to do some more smooth, decorative gravel which will increase the cost but decrease the likelihood that my children will become injured if they fall on it. Maybe my guy isn't too far off. We're still going to get another couple of quotes.
My house kind of sits on a slope, so it's about 30' from my foundation. But it just pools in my backyard along the fence. It's annoying as hell. Our backyard is big but effectively worthless because it's a mosquito infested swamp land.
Post by: Cire on May 01, 2015, 12:11:24 PM
Post by: sys on May 01, 2015, 12:23:50 PM
Post by: CNS on May 01, 2015, 12:25:57 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 01, 2015, 12:27:07 PM
Post by: slobber on May 01, 2015, 12:41:46 PM
I bet, if you dug a couple inches below that area, you would find that they left the concrete spoils from pouring your driveway. Grass hates that.It is almost certainly this, based on proximity to sidewalk.
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: ShellShock on June 10, 2015, 03:15:52 PM
Anyone here actually in the business in KC? I have a pretty tricky sprinkler system that is probably older than the dinosaurs and need some minor valve help. TIA
it should be flyer wedged in your door season right now i would imagine, i bet out of the 100 you get there will be a sprinkler one in there
Ended up just bucking up and tearing into it myself. Turns out, it wasn't terribly difficult once I found where the leaks/breaks were and also found parts for the system.
Post by: meow meow on June 10, 2015, 03:23:52 PM
Post by: dontfeedthebear on June 30, 2015, 09:00:41 AM
Post by: puniraptor on June 30, 2015, 09:14:45 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 30, 2015, 09:16:48 AM
mosquitos reproduce in standing water. nothing you do to your lawn or bushes will make any difference.
If he has standing water in his yard after rains, he could put in a french drain or something. I think the proximity to the lake is the real problem, though. Just stock up on Off.
Post by: steve dave on June 30, 2015, 09:17:50 AM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on June 30, 2015, 09:41:11 AM
I'm going to mow today guys. it's supposed to be like 85 so not like the surface of the sun hot so that's good
I bet that Miller Lite is going to taste awesome afterwards.
Post by: slobber on June 30, 2015, 09:48:14 AM
mosquitos reproduce in standing water. nothing you do to your lawn or bushes will make any difference.first part true. Second part not true
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: puniraptor on June 30, 2015, 09:49:24 AM
mosquitos reproduce in standing water. nothing you do to your lawn or bushes will make any difference.first part true. Second part not true
Gonna win 'em all!
:bwpopcorn:
Post by: slobber on June 30, 2015, 09:49:59 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: slobber on June 30, 2015, 09:51:03 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: puniraptor on June 30, 2015, 09:51:53 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 30, 2015, 09:52:23 AM
One treatment will not work for extended periods. You will need to retreat consistently. Make sure you don't have standing water.
Gonna win 'em all!
He's just a half mile from a lake, though. Do mosquitoes not have that kind of range?
Post by: XocolateThundarr on June 30, 2015, 09:53:46 AM
When you spray, really close that nozzle down so you get fine droplets.
Gonna win 'em all!
What about those insect traps that have a fan with ultraviolet light and CO2 "bait"? :popcorn:
Post by: steve dave on June 30, 2015, 10:13:38 AM
Post by: GoodForAnother on June 30, 2015, 10:50:39 AM
Post by: sys on June 30, 2015, 10:54:08 AM
What about those insect traps that have a fan with ultraviolet light and CO2 "bait"? :popcorn:
you'll kill a crap ton, but also pull in more from the surrounding area.
Post by: CNS on June 30, 2015, 10:56:42 AM
I haven't used them because we haven't had a problem yet(and I live about 800ft from our neighborhood lake).
Post by: XocolateThundarr on June 30, 2015, 10:57:02 AM
What about those insect traps that have a fan with ultraviolet light and CO2 "bait"? :popcorn:
you'll kill a crap ton, but also pull in more from the surrounding area.
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Post by: dontfeedthebear on June 30, 2015, 01:33:09 PM
what are you spraying?Some Cutter yard crap and Triazicide. When I spray the stuff, you can actually see them hovering about 15 feet up, like they're snorting the fumes before they come back down and attack you. I think I hear them laughing at me if I use anything less than 100% DEET on my body.
Post by: XocolateThundarr on June 30, 2015, 04:16:24 PM
what are you spraying?Some Cutter yard crap and Triazicide. When I spray the stuff, you can actually see them hovering about 15 feet up, like they're snorting the fumes before they come back down and attack you. I think I hear them laughing at me if I use anything less than 100% DEET on my body.
Get several cans of OFF, stab them with a knife, and pitch them out in your yard. /thread
Post by: slobber on June 30, 2015, 04:28:51 PM
dobber, thinking of taking my jug of ortho bug be gone max and just dumping it in the creek behind my house to take care of the mosquito breeding zone. this is a good idea, please confirm.Cannot confirm. Math seems pretty legit, but the good people at Ortho didn't include that in the label directions.
Post by: slobber on June 30, 2015, 04:29:48 PM
Can't kill them all, but killing as many as you can is still a good idea!One treatment will not work for extended periods. You will need to retreat consistently. Make sure you don't have standing water.
Gonna win 'em all!
He's just a half mile from a lake, though. Do mosquitoes not have that kind of range?
Post by: slobber on June 30, 2015, 04:31:39 PM
Sounds fake. Those little personal fans that you can hang on your belt or in your entry way to your tent work, but there is some other chemistry that is not yet registered in the US that the WHO uses for bed nets and in other products. It is really great.When you spray, really close that nozzle down so you get fine droplets.
Gonna win 'em all!
What about those insect traps that have a fan with ultraviolet light and CO2 "bait"? :popcorn:
Post by: Duncan on June 30, 2015, 04:49:10 PM
Off Deep Woods is the best for protection.
Post by: HerrSonntag on June 30, 2015, 10:23:24 PM
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http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ortho-Bug-B-Gon-32-oz-Max-Ready-to-Spray-Lawn-and-Garden-Insect-Killer-0175910/203686795 (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ortho-Bug-B-Gon-32-oz-Max-Ready-to-Spray-Lawn-and-Garden-Insect-Killer-0175910/203686795)
This particular product didn't go as far as i thought it would, either... id say you really need about two bottles per application. Next time i might try the granular application instead of the hose, don't know if that will work for mosquitoes though.
Post by: dontfeedthebear on June 30, 2015, 10:50:34 PM
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Post by: slobber on July 01, 2015, 08:50:26 AM
I had one of the worst problems with mosquitos i recall ever having after all the rain we had in May. I put down this and for a few weeks i never saw a single bug. They are starting to come back but not near as bad so yeah, i imagine you probably need to re-apply every month.guys, I covered this. Read the label and buy any insecticide that ends in "thrin". The one in the picture meets that requirement.
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This particular product didn't go as far as i thought it would, either... id say you really need about two bottles per application. Next time i might try the granular application instead of the hose, don't know if that will work for mosquitoes though.
Also, do not dump the product into a water source, it is toxic to fish.
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 01, 2015, 09:09:29 AM
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Post by: slobber on July 01, 2015, 09:45:19 AM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 01, 2015, 09:51:45 AM
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Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: slobber on July 01, 2015, 10:53:18 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: Cire on July 01, 2015, 03:14:59 PM
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Gonna win 'em all!
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Post by: slobber on July 01, 2015, 08:59:01 PM
It kills me that dobber is big chemical :frown:this is following a post about irrigation. I am not big irrigation company.
I am pro chemical when you need them!
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: sys on July 01, 2015, 11:02:12 PM
I knew it. There's slobber, yet again telling people to go use a product that kills bees. What a monster. "Residual kill of bees would be limited to zero". What a bunch of hullabaloo. That sounds a lot like Big Tobacco talking about second-hand smoke to me.
he wants you to kill them. he's had his eye on selling you pollination services since the beginning.
Post by: slobber on July 02, 2015, 12:32:11 AM
Why would I want to kill them?! They impact not only my livelihood, but my life!
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 02, 2015, 08:40:13 AM
Post by: CHONGS on July 02, 2015, 09:38:02 AM
what your mower setting? I am super happy mowing on a 5.
Post by: OK_Cat on July 02, 2015, 11:25:33 AM
Post by: slobber on July 02, 2015, 11:34:47 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: star seed 7 on July 02, 2015, 12:19:22 PM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on July 02, 2015, 12:40:26 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 02, 2015, 01:39:02 PM
I mow at the highest setting. About 3.5 inches.
Gonna win 'em all!
I do the same.
Post by: Gooch on July 02, 2015, 03:29:56 PM
I didn't mow the entire month of June :cool:I haven't mowed in two years.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 02, 2015, 03:33:07 PM
I didn't mow the entire month of June :cool:I haven't mowed in two years.
I haven't mowed in....at least 20 years, probably more.
Post by: star seed 7 on July 02, 2015, 04:24:47 PM
Post by: wetwillie on July 02, 2015, 04:27:35 PM
Post by: slobber on July 02, 2015, 07:13:30 PM
Im thinking of putting in fake grassthe honeybees and solitary bees will move that!
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: cDubya on July 05, 2015, 05:27:55 PM
We need the bees, but damn they are bastards some times! :shakesfist:
Post by: Spracne on July 05, 2015, 07:28:29 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on July 05, 2015, 08:12:37 PM
Post by: steve dave on July 27, 2015, 09:32:14 AM
now that it's like a thousand degrees every day how often should I be mowing and how high? the old guy at my office who seems to know a lot about yards told me he isn't mowing as often because it's not good for the lawn this time of year. is this accurate?
Post by: steve dave on July 27, 2015, 09:36:30 AM
Post by: steve dave on July 27, 2015, 09:41:32 AM
Post by: slobber on July 27, 2015, 09:41:51 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: sys on July 27, 2015, 09:58:38 AM
Post by: slobber on July 27, 2015, 10:19:47 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: sys on July 27, 2015, 11:29:19 AM
Just now the tall parts! (And fix your irrigation system)
Gonna win 'em all!
it's only partly the irrigation system. it's also the sun/shade and different species of grass. it's mostly the latter two, although the tallest grass was where it gets runoff from water coming off the sidewalk.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 30, 2015, 12:08:38 PM
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11223845_10206698033546116_5916828265461916175_n.jpg?oh=5c2272aa17e0763b049b0e17e5b75884&oe=563F0047)
Post by: The Big Train on July 30, 2015, 12:25:37 PM
isn't your yard supposed to have grass :dunno:
Post by: slobber on July 30, 2015, 12:43:10 PM
what is this crap, and how did it take over my yard in like 3 weeks?Where do you live? Can you get a closer picture of the weed?
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11223845_10206698033546116_5916828265461916175_n.jpg?oh=5c2272aa17e0763b049b0e17e5b75884&oe=563F0047)
Looks like a version of crabgrass, but not certain.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 30, 2015, 01:05:38 PM
what is this crap, and how did it take over my yard in like 3 weeks?Where do you live? Can you get a closer picture of the weed?
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11223845_10206698033546116_5916828265461916175_n.jpg?oh=5c2272aa17e0763b049b0e17e5b75884&oe=563F0047)
Looks like a version of crabgrass, but not certain.
Topeka. I'll get a better pic tonight.
Post by: star seed 7 on July 30, 2015, 01:06:53 PM
Post by: slobber on July 30, 2015, 01:36:14 PM
It also looks like goosegrass, but I don't think you should have a problem with that in T town. Look up "auricles" and "ligules" and then get a picture of them. If you get a good picture, we will hammer this thing out in no time.what is this crap, and how did it take over my yard in like 3 weeks?Where do you live? Can you get a closer picture of the weed?
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11223845_10206698033546116_5916828265461916175_n.jpg?oh=5c2272aa17e0763b049b0e17e5b75884&oe=563F0047)
Looks like a version of crabgrass, but not certain.
Topeka. I'll get a better pic tonight.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 30, 2015, 09:17:57 PM
http://imgur.com/a/m61lo (http://imgur.com/a/m61lo)
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 30, 2015, 09:42:52 PM
Post by: GoodForAnother on July 30, 2015, 09:54:11 PM
http://m.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-185-mph-510-CFM-Gas-Backpack-Blower-RY08420A/203312654
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 30, 2015, 10:39:50 PM
I still haven't mowed the backyard since may
poor sookie.
Post by: star seed 7 on July 30, 2015, 11:12:48 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on July 31, 2015, 12:49:24 AM
Thats just bermuda, in wetter times of the year it grows really broad leaves like that. Get rid of it now if you want a uniform seed all throughout your lawn because it will spread. It will mostly only move into places where your fescue has problems like really hot or dry areas. I don't mind it. It keeps to the places where i have trouble keeping green fescue. The downsides are that it grows much faster in the hot parts of the summer than fescue, so you have uneaven mowing, and it is completely dormant (brown) in winter, whereas your fescue doesn't.It also looks like goosegrass, but I don't think you should have a problem with that in T town. Look up "auricles" and "ligules" and then get a picture of them. If you get a good picture, we will hammer this thing out in no time.what is this crap, and how did it take over my yard in like 3 weeks?Where do you live? Can you get a closer picture of the weed?
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11223845_10206698033546116_5916828265461916175_n.jpg?oh=5c2272aa17e0763b049b0e17e5b75884&oe=563F0047)
Looks like a version of crabgrass, but not certain.
Topeka. I'll get a better pic tonight.
Post by: slobber on July 31, 2015, 08:23:38 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: slobber on July 31, 2015, 08:32:18 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 31, 2015, 08:39:41 AM
97% certain it is large crabgrass. If you tell me you didn't use a preemergent herbicide this spring, then I will confirm the other 3%. It really shouldn't be that bad if you used a preemergent. It is not easy to control at this stage. Suggestion above is a good attempt. Don't expect a miracle.
Gonna win 'em all!
thats what pisses me off is I did and I usually dont, but maybe I did it too late.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 31, 2015, 08:40:26 AM
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 31, 2015, 08:42:08 AM
def looks like crabgrass to me.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 31, 2015, 08:56:23 AM
My last lawn was Bermuda. is that stuff creeping out horizontally with really long stringers? that's what my Bermuda did.
def looks like crabgrass to me.
it is almost in rows in some spots, like along my mowing path. it is wierd.
Post by: steve dave on July 31, 2015, 09:01:55 AM
My last lawn was Bermuda. is that stuff creeping out horizontally with really long stringers? that's what my Bermuda did.
def looks like crabgrass to me.
it is almost in rows in some spots, like along my mowing path. it is wierd.
because you're spreading it around when you mow it. mow around it and hose it down with some sort of poison until it dies.
source: grew up on a cow farm
Post by: Institutional Control on July 31, 2015, 09:02:52 AM
Post by: steve dave on July 31, 2015, 09:04:09 AM
I like that HerrSonntag has convinced himself that his crabgrass problem is really just mutant bermuda.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.therazor.org%2Foldroot%2FSpring03%2Fphotos%2Fbaghdadbob.jpg&hash=554bafb3b6374070e22d4330ee89e2249e4f0ed6)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 31, 2015, 09:04:43 AM
I like that HerrSonntag has convinced himself that his crabgrass problem is really just mutant bermuda.
he gave me hope for a moment, but I knew in my heart it was lies.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on July 31, 2015, 09:07:45 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 31, 2015, 09:07:54 AM
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 31, 2015, 09:18:28 AM
I think bermuda is harder to get rid of than crabgrass.
Toby Tobin believes the only way to get rid of Bermuda is to just kill off your entire lawn in the fall.
crabgrass might be tough to get rid of at this point, but a good pre-emergent in the fall/spring ought to keep it from popping up next year.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 31, 2015, 09:54:03 AM
Yessir, you've got urself a bad case of crab grass. Need to get urself some Ferti-lome Weedout With Q. Get the stuff specially designed for crab grass.
Belvis knows the French Horn and lawn care like a huge beast
Post by: slobber on July 31, 2015, 10:14:10 AM
unfortunately, killing bermudagrass with roundup doesn't kill all of it. It is very resilient.I think bermuda is harder to get rid of than crabgrass.
Toby Tobin believes the only way to get rid of Bermuda is to just kill off your entire lawn in the fall.
crabgrass might be tough to get rid of at this point, but a good pre-emergent in the fall/spring ought to keep it from popping up next year.
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: slobber on July 31, 2015, 10:15:55 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 31, 2015, 11:36:25 AM
Yessir, you've got urself a bad case of crab grass. Need to get urself some Ferti-lome Weedout With Q. Get the stuff specially designed for crab grass.
Belvis knows the French Horn and lawn care like a huge beast
ur damn skippy
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 31, 2015, 12:09:36 PM
I was thinking it was wooly cupgrass for a bit. Wouldn't make sense to have that much of it in your yard. One other question, do you put out a ton of bird seed?
Gonna win 'em all!
none at all
There is a ton of it. It is probably over 50-60% of the red areas, some places 90%
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1HL8DpjbcpY/VburqEh8sVI/AAAAAAAAcJ8/7o0O-hcSvAM/s901-Ic42/Capture.JPG)
Post by: slobber on July 31, 2015, 12:36:10 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: Panjandrum on July 31, 2015, 12:56:51 PM
bought this beast today and now my life is so fantastic
http://m.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-185-mph-510-CFM-Gas-Backpack-Blower-RY08420A/203312654
You are a God to me.
How much fun is it to use?
Post by: Panjandrum on July 31, 2015, 01:03:17 PM
my foundation guy told me a french drain is like $30/foot. I'm just going to build my own.
He quoted 130', so based on your guy's price, that is about $3900. I guess he wants to do some more smooth, decorative gravel which will increase the cost but decrease the likelihood that my children will become injured if they fall on it. Maybe my guy isn't too far off. We're still going to get another couple of quotes.
My house kind of sits on a slope, so it's about 30' from my foundation. But it just pools in my backyard along the fence. It's annoying as hell. Our backyard is big but effectively worthless because it's a mosquito infested swamp land.
French drain is in. Took them a while to get to it with the wet summer, but the last rock was delivered today. Got a pretty nice system in place where they connected my sump pump and down spouts into the drain. Multiple catch basins and a grate to get the biggest amounts in the lowest spot. They even were able to keep some of the trees and plants that we had put in the area around the dry creek bed. They also leveled out my yard in a couple of spots and did seed and hay to help with the revitalization.
We also had them clear out a bunch of crap under our deck (it's was just a 200 sq. ft. mud and weed trap), do some steel edging, weed barrier, and decorative rock. That looks really nice now, too.
All in all, it was $5900. But they pretty much redid my entire backyard.
Mowing tonight to clean and tidy everything up, but really happy with how it all turned out. Can recommend 4T Total Lawn care. :thumbs:
Post by: GoodForAnother on July 31, 2015, 11:19:33 PM
bought this beast today and now my life is so fantastic
http://m.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-185-mph-510-CFM-Gas-Backpack-Blower-RY08420A/203312654
You are a God to me.
How much fun is it to use?
it's amazing. I have a little over half an acre with several dozen oak trees so I have a shitload of use for a blower. compared to the crappy handheld one I had before this thing is night in day. moves a lot more stuff and does it faster and it's easy to use since you've got the engine on your back. I get done in about half the time I used to and then I'm mad because I want to keep pretending to be a cyborg blowing loose debris all over my yard.
Post by: HerrSonntag on August 02, 2015, 01:21:46 AM
So we're saying i actually have entire sections of my yard that are like some sore of crabgrass uni-culture? Do i need to call science to confirm the amazing all crabgrass yard?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 02, 2015, 06:45:10 PM
I thought crabgrass was clumpy-er than that? I dunno, it looks pretty good if mowed regularly. Like, its green guys.
So we're saying i actually have entire sections of my yard that are like some sore of crabgrass uni-culture? Do i need to call science to confirm the amazing all crabgrass yard?
All crabgrass yards don't work because crabgrass is an annual. Just put down per emergent next year and none of it will come back.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 03, 2015, 07:39:52 PM
Post by: slobber on August 03, 2015, 08:26:40 PM
What is the best time of year to lay St. Augustine sod in Louisiana? And how much is just the right amount of watering once you put it down?call a local. Sorry, I can't help here.
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: HerrSonntag on August 03, 2015, 09:12:57 PM
Yeah, i realize this. So now i'm depressed because i am going to need to reseed this fall so i can put down some pre-emergant. I was talkign with my neighbor and he's interested in splitting a day of verti-slicer rental so i've got that going for me. Question though, what can i do to help establish new fescue seeds this fall where theres already an established crop of crabgrass? Plant later in the fall? Cropp the hell out of the crabgrss before slicing/seeding?I thought crabgrass was clumpy-er than that? I dunno, it looks pretty good if mowed regularly. Like, its green guys.
So we're saying i actually have entire sections of my yard that are like some sore of crabgrass uni-culture? Do i need to call science to confirm the amazing all crabgrass yard?
All crabgrass yards don't work because crabgrass is an annual. Just put down per emergent next year and none of it will come back.
Post by: CNS on August 03, 2015, 11:23:21 PM
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Post by: Stevesie60 on August 04, 2015, 02:28:12 AM
I still haven't mowed the backyard since may
I did this as well and then when I went to mow my mower freaked the eff out. 0 out of 5 stars.
Post by: slobber on August 04, 2015, 05:18:52 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: star seed 7 on August 04, 2015, 09:29:43 AM
I still haven't mowed the backyard since may
I did this as well and then when I went to mow my mower freaked the eff out. 0 out of 5 stars.
I'll try when it gets down to like 60 degrees
Post by: WillieWatanabe on August 05, 2015, 06:29:42 PM
Post by: wetwillie on August 05, 2015, 07:06:44 PM
My next door neighbor just came by and mowed a lazy path around my yard with a John Deere riding mower. He then loaded it back on a trailer and left. He has a tiny ass yard so he normally has a push mower.
I dont dont get it
Post by: WillieWatanabe on August 05, 2015, 07:16:23 PM
My next door neighbor just came by and mowed a lazy path around my yard with a John Deere riding mower. He then loaded it back on a trailer and left. He has a tiny ass yard so he normally has a push mower.
I dont dont get it
me neither. I've never talked to the guy. I think im getting trolled.
Post by: slobber on August 05, 2015, 08:33:07 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: slobber on August 05, 2015, 08:33:36 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: wetwillie on August 05, 2015, 08:51:08 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on August 05, 2015, 08:59:20 PM
Does your lawn need to be mowed?
Gonna win 'em all!
not really. I was planning on mowing tomorrow though. I live in a shitty neighborhood with way worse yards.
Post by: GoodForAnother on August 05, 2015, 11:38:23 PM
What is the best time of year to lay St. Augustine sod in Louisiana? And how much is just the right amount of watering once you put it down?
in theory you can do it whenever. I have St Aug that's thin in spots and have gone back and forth between just overseeing with a tall fescue and blending them (I think this will probably look like crap? idk) or just putting in new sod. from what I've read online (I'm in Texas) the best time to lay warm season sod like St Aug is in spring, but really it can be done as long as it isn't frozen. personally I'm probably going to lay sod or overseed with fescue this fall.
Post by: slobber on August 06, 2015, 01:13:46 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: GoodForAnother on August 06, 2015, 08:35:31 AM
it would just be easier and I'm lazy. I'll probably just throw some sod down in a month or two.
Post by: Asteriskhead on August 06, 2015, 09:36:10 AM
I still haven't mowed the backyard since may
I did this as well and then when I went to mow my mower freaked the eff out. 0 out of 5 stars.
I'll try when it gets down to like 60 degrees
some lady in Ohio went au naturale for her yard. her neighbors are pissed, but she has lots of cool butterflies and bees. it was on all things considered yesterday. i thought of you.
Post by: slobber on August 06, 2015, 10:58:01 AM
take it to the stupid crap on Facebook thread. This is for real lawn conversations.I still haven't mowed the backyard since may
I did this as well and then when I went to mow my mower freaked the eff out. 0 out of 5 stars.
I'll try when it gets down to like 60 degrees
some lady in Ohio went au naturale for her yard. her neighbors are pissed, but she has lots of cool butterflies and bees. it was on all things considered yesterday. i thought of you.
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: sys on August 06, 2015, 11:00:57 AM
Post by: Panjandrum on August 06, 2015, 11:09:50 AM
I still haven't mowed the backyard since may
I did this as well and then when I went to mow my mower freaked the eff out. 0 out of 5 stars.
I'll try when it gets down to like 60 degrees
some lady in Ohio went au naturale for her yard. her neighbors are pissed, but she has lots of cool butterflies and bees. it was on all things considered yesterday. i thought of you.
We have a few bushes in our front yard that we haven't clipped or trimmed just to see how big they'd get. They don't look bad or anything. I have no idea what they are because they preceded us.
Anyway, for a few weeks this summer, at any given time, we probably had over a dozen bees and a dozen butterflies on these bushes right in front of our front door and dining room windows. The kids (and me) just liked standing there and watching them through the windows. Drove the dog nuts, though.
Post by: Panjandrum on August 06, 2015, 11:12:52 AM
my foundation guy told me a french drain is like $30/foot. I'm just going to build my own.
He quoted 130', so based on your guy's price, that is about $3900. I guess he wants to do some more smooth, decorative gravel which will increase the cost but decrease the likelihood that my children will become injured if they fall on it. Maybe my guy isn't too far off. We're still going to get another couple of quotes.
My house kind of sits on a slope, so it's about 30' from my foundation. But it just pools in my backyard along the fence. It's annoying as hell. Our backyard is big but effectively worthless because it's a mosquito infested swamp land.
French drain is in. Took them a while to get to it with the wet summer, but the last rock was delivered today. Got a pretty nice system in place where they connected my sump pump and down spouts into the drain. Multiple catch basins and a grate to get the biggest amounts in the lowest spot. They even were able to keep some of the trees and plants that we had put in the area around the dry creek bed. They also leveled out my yard in a couple of spots and did seed and hay to help with the revitalization.
We also had them clear out a bunch of crap under our deck (it's was just a 200 sq. ft. mud and weed trap), do some steel edging, weed barrier, and decorative rock. That looks really nice now, too.
All in all, it was $5900. But they pretty much redid my entire backyard.
Mowing tonight to clean and tidy everything up, but really happy with how it all turned out. Can recommend 4T Total Lawn care. :thumbs:
Not that anyone probably cares, but after the rain yesterday, my yard was damp in some spots, but dry overall. This project, thus far, was a huge success. Major, major difference.
My neighbor to the north of me went to the same company and asked for a quote. If he gets his drainage figured out, it's going to make an even bigger difference.
Post by: slobber on August 06, 2015, 07:54:01 PM
Guys, I have a bunch of flowers and bushes in my yard, and guess what, I also have a bunch of bees and butterflies and other insects as well! Yard, flowers, and bushes all look great!
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: The Big Train on August 07, 2015, 06:38:05 AM
Post by: GoodForAnother on August 07, 2015, 09:58:02 AM
Post by: HerrSonntag on August 07, 2015, 01:38:33 PM
Yeah, i realize this. So now i'm depressed because i am going to need to reseed this fall so i can put down some pre-emergant. I was talkign with my neighbor and he's interested in splitting a day of verti-slicer rental so i've got that going for me. Question though, what can i do to help establish new fescue seeds this fall where theres already an established crop of crabgrass? Plant later in the fall? Cropp the hell out of the crabgrss before slicing/seeding?I thought crabgrass was clumpy-er than that? I dunno, it looks pretty good if mowed regularly. Like, its green guys.
So we're saying i actually have entire sections of my yard that are like some sore of crabgrass uni-culture? Do i need to call science to confirm the amazing all crabgrass yard?
All crabgrass yards don't work because crabgrass is an annual. Just put down per emergent next year and none of it will come back.
Never tried before, but maybe kill it all now and reseed in like 2-3 weeks? :dunno:
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Spot spray roundup on the crabgrass. You don't care if you kill a little fescue because you are going to reseed.
Gonna win 'em all!
Anyone got any more suggestions? Whens a good time to do a fall reseed? What should I use to clear out my crabgrass? I was thinking about just cropping the grass down to the dirt but if I need to spray what should I use and how long should I wait to reseed?
For the record... this isn't a small patch that I can spot spray, I'm talking about whole quadrants of the yard.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FomJzNC7.png&hash=c7b3e4a0d1658cb64ddf9a0d2e12e272e7957a17)
The light green is crabgrass... there are 3 very old trees on this lot that i'd be nervious about spraying any broad "kill everything" stuff around... like I'm talking about $3k to remove this tree if I kill it, losing a beautiful old tree not withstanding.
Post by: GoodForAnother on August 08, 2015, 07:56:45 AM
I got a possible illegal immigrant who removed 7 50 ft post oaks for me last week for $1200 if you want his number
Post by: slobber on August 08, 2015, 08:09:35 AM
Would roundup some time by the end of this month.
Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2015, 10:33:08 AM
Post by: CNS on August 08, 2015, 10:34:27 AM
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Post by: Cire on August 08, 2015, 10:39:32 AM
I have a couple patches turning yellowish. It seems healthy otherwise. Growing super fast. Too much water? Not enough water? I'm cutting at 3 1/2 about every 5 days.Probably fungus from the wet.
I need to redo my front flower bed. Have every greeny type small shrubs. Not much color. Faces west so gets very hot.
Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2015, 10:44:06 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2015, 10:50:35 AM
the best time for a fall reseed is in the fall
I got a possible illegal immigrant who removed 7 50 ft post oaks for me last week for $1200 if you want his number
How much do suburban texans hate trees
Post by: slobber on August 08, 2015, 10:54:08 AM
Alternate option, go by something at home depot for lawn diseases. It probably won't work as well, but you can do this pretty easily.
If you do the JDL option, let me know and I will PM you some details.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2015, 11:01:30 AM
Post by: Stevesie60 on August 08, 2015, 11:36:57 AM
Post by: slobber on August 08, 2015, 11:40:51 AM
well we found out who dobber works forI thought that was easily figured out before hand. In this case, Armada is simply one of the very few fungicides that is priced for LCO's (lawn care operators) and not for golf course market (meaning it is cheaper), and JDL (John Deere Landscape- not your local midwest green tractors store) carries the product in virtually every store in the country because LCO's come in and ask for it.
Post by: The Big Train on August 08, 2015, 11:47:29 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 08, 2015, 03:07:06 PM
Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2015, 03:08:31 PM
so my goal every year is to not be the worst yard in my neighborhood. like, i want someone else to have the "bad yard". i've been able to do this, but sometimes just barely. this year is the first year though that i am top 50% and the yards that are worse than mine just make me so mad.
go back to lower division yard. problem solved.
Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2015, 03:10:21 PM
Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2015, 03:11:43 PM
Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2015, 03:12:35 PM
Post by: slobber on August 08, 2015, 03:29:46 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: CNS on August 08, 2015, 03:31:48 PM
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 08, 2015, 03:37:19 PM
so my goal every year is to not be the worst yard in my neighborhood. like, i want someone else to have the "bad yard". i've been able to do this, but sometimes just barely. this year is the first year though that i am top 50% and the yards that are worse than mine just make me so mad.
go back to lower division yard. problem solved.
Not an option. My neighborhood is like 40 houses but my neighborhood within a neighborhood is my street and only has a few houses and I don't want to let those people down. I'll keep fighting the good fight and hope the people outside my street feel the peer pressure to either join in or get lost. It isn't that hard. Crab grass by the street and sidewalks of some people just so gross though I almost want to grab my sprayer thing and go spot spray for them. What is happening?
Post by: slobber on August 08, 2015, 03:41:35 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 08, 2015, 05:22:02 PM
Rick Daris is growing up.
Gonna win 'em all!
What does my yard also have you might ask? If you guessed a garden in back with a couple of currently growing pumpkin vines for Halloween along with cucumber and watermelons plants then you just nailed it.
Post by: sys on August 08, 2015, 07:07:49 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 08, 2015, 08:32:08 PM
i took pretty good care of my lawn last year, but this year i just can't work up the motivation. don't let the grass get to tall, blah, blah, blah. it's hot outside, and i don't want to go out there. what's the worst that could happen if i let it grow? hell the state wants me to let it dry out and die anyways. my neighbors should be thankful i'm not doing that.
It's very neighborhood dependent in my opinion. If you look around and you aren't the worst, you're good
Post by: GoodForAnother on August 09, 2015, 07:12:08 PM
the best time for a fall reseed is in the fall
I got a possible illegal immigrant who removed 7 50 ft post oaks for me last week for $1200 if you want his number
How much do suburban texans hate trees
I don't hate trees. We still have like 40
Post by: slobber on August 09, 2015, 09:12:13 PM
The one thing that I do for my trees, which kick the neighbors trees' asses, is I put the garden hose on them at a trickle a couple of times a year and water real deep. I let the hose run for 3-4 hours near the base of the tree. It could be dry around the tree and the leaves are just suffering.
Sorry I had to cancel my Omaha flight tomorrow. Keep the Miller Lite's on ice for the next time!
Post by: sys on August 09, 2015, 11:26:05 PM
i took pretty good care of my lawn last year, but this year i just can't work up the motivation. don't let the grass get to tall, blah, blah, blah. it's hot outside, and i don't want to go out there. what's the worst that could happen if i let it grow? hell the state wants me to let it dry out and die anyways. my neighbors should be thankful i'm not doing that.
It's very neighborhood dependent in my opinion. If you look around and you aren't the worst, you're good
my lawn isn't the worst, but it's definitely not in the top half. fresnans tend to really get into their lawns (bermuda clipped to about .5 inches high).
Post by: Cire on August 24, 2015, 06:06:17 AM
Post by: slobber on August 24, 2015, 07:54:59 AM
Is it too early for seeding?A little. Can start prep work now. Spray roundup to try to kill off Bermuda patches if you have a fescue lawn. Mow a little lower the next mowing. Labor Day is a good time to oversees/reseed.
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Post by: steve dave on August 24, 2015, 08:26:40 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 24, 2015, 08:26:55 AM
Post by: steve dave on August 24, 2015, 08:28:04 AM
Post by: slobber on August 24, 2015, 08:34:16 AM
Slobber which JDL do you work at? I like you guys and shop there for all my lawn needs.I actually don't work at JDL.
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Post by: slobber on August 24, 2015, 08:34:40 AM
also, going to fall aerate this year for the first time. sod will be about 16 months old so I think it's time. I mean, I'm not personally going to do it but you know what I mean.Mow shorter before aeration and overseeing.
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Post by: Reboulet on August 24, 2015, 08:40:44 AM
SPEAKING OF!: Dobber, my ornamental pear tree has some black spots on some of the leaves. in doing google on it I've discovered it could be almost anything (fungus, bugs, disease, etc.) and basically I have to just see if it goes away or not. any additional input here? should I go ahead and send the mrs. to the landscape place to pick out another tree?
I've noticed the pear tree spots all over my neighborhood, looks like no big deal: http://www.kansas.com/living/home-garden/article31182911.html (http://www.kansas.com/living/home-garden/article31182911.html)
Post by: CNS on August 24, 2015, 10:28:05 AM
Post by: steve dave on August 24, 2015, 12:21:04 PM
SPEAKING OF!: Dobber, my ornamental pear tree has some black spots on some of the leaves. in doing google on it I've discovered it could be almost anything (fungus, bugs, disease, etc.) and basically I have to just see if it goes away or not. any additional input here? should I go ahead and send the mrs. to the landscape place to pick out another tree?
I've noticed the pear tree spots all over my neighborhood, looks like no big deal: http://www.kansas.com/living/home-garden/article31182911.html (http://www.kansas.com/living/home-garden/article31182911.html)
hmmm, looks like I did the right thing by doing nothing and ignoring it
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on August 24, 2015, 12:42:07 PM
Replaced the oil/filter, fuel filter, and air filter on the JD this weekend in prep to aerate in the next week or two. Turns out I am handy AF. Who knew?
I'm going to give a go at a deck spindle. :ohno:
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on August 24, 2015, 12:45:34 PM
SPEAKING OF!: Dobber, my ornamental pear tree has some black spots on some of the leaves. in doing google on it I've discovered it could be almost anything (fungus, bugs, disease, etc.) and basically I have to just see if it goes away or not. any additional input here? should I go ahead and send the mrs. to the landscape place to pick out another tree?
I've noticed the pear tree spots all over my neighborhood, looks like no big deal: http://www.kansas.com/living/home-garden/article31182911.html (http://www.kansas.com/living/home-garden/article31182911.html)
so you're saying I overreacted? (https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11953282_10206874668241873_1458470589596416886_n.jpg?oh=35e047858d1ee1ee1e64c5b3ccc0fbfa&oe=567F2F1F)
Post by: CNS on August 24, 2015, 06:43:29 PM
I don't even know what that is :horrorsurprise:Replaced the oil/filter, fuel filter, and air filter on the JD this weekend in prep to aerate in the next week or two. Turns out I am handy AF. Who knew?
I'm going to give a go at a deck spindle. :ohno:
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Post by: WonderMeal on August 24, 2015, 10:20:54 PM
SPEAKING OF!: Dobber, my ornamental pear tree has some black spots on some of the leaves. in doing google on it I've discovered it could be almost anything (fungus, bugs, disease, etc.) and basically I have to just see if it goes away or not. any additional input here? should I go ahead and send the mrs. to the landscape place to pick out another tree?
Most pear trees planted in subdivisions are planted because they are cheap and grow fast. Unfortunately, they also break pretty easily. A giant limb on a bradford pear across the street from me in a low/medium rain storm a couple of weeks ago.
Even if the black spots aren't a big deal, and it looks like they aren't, I recommend getting rid of the pear while you can and planting any of the varieties in #21-48 or #61-72 on this list:
http://arboretum.unl.edu/documents/Trees%20for%20Eastern%20Nebraska.pdf (http://arboretum.unl.edu/documents/Trees%20for%20Eastern%20Nebraska.pdf)
Just think--your tree can grow up with Li'l SD!
Post by: Tobias on August 24, 2015, 10:41:30 PM
Post by: wetwillie on August 24, 2015, 10:50:10 PM
Post by: steve dave on August 25, 2015, 08:00:45 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 25, 2015, 08:17:39 AM
Post by: puniraptor on August 25, 2015, 09:32:39 AM
Post by: slobber on August 25, 2015, 09:49:28 AM
Post by: sys on August 25, 2015, 10:08:00 AM
Post by: slobber on August 25, 2015, 10:13:16 AM
they're pretty."Oh, they are soooo pretty and they grow sooooo fast! They provide shade right up until the point that they crash on your or your neighbor's car/house!"
THE DEVIL
Post by: sys on August 25, 2015, 10:22:11 AM
they're pretty."Oh, they are soooo pretty and they grow sooooo fast! They provide shade right up until the point that they crash on your or your neighbor's car/house!"
THE DEVIL
are all the flowering pears in fresno bradfords? i've never noticed this smell people are complaining about.
most trees are assholes. i'd trade my ash trees and my horrible fig tree for whatever problems the pears cause. it can't be worse than raining figs down on you and everything you own.
Post by: sys on August 25, 2015, 10:24:43 AM
Post by: slobber on August 25, 2015, 10:25:27 AM
I think Fresno has tons of bradford pears. I do not know of this horrible smell either. I just know that they are weak tree-devils that lose branches when somebody coughs.they're pretty."Oh, they are soooo pretty and they grow sooooo fast! They provide shade right up until the point that they crash on your or your neighbor's car/house!"
THE DEVIL
are all the flowering pears in fresno bradfords? i've never noticed this smell people are complaining about.
most trees are assholes. i'd trade my ash trees and my horrible fig tree for whatever problems the pears cause. it can't be worse than raining figs down on you and everything you own.
Post by: sys on August 25, 2015, 10:32:04 AM
Post by: puniraptor on August 25, 2015, 10:48:09 AM
Post by: CNS on August 25, 2015, 11:02:21 AM
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Post by: sys on August 25, 2015, 11:08:21 AM
You should be #acking the crap out of those figs. As food.
1. i don't much care for figs, 2. this variety of fig isn't the best i've encountered, 3. birds peck holes in them all before they ripen enough for humans to want to eat them.
i'd have to put up netting or something. too much work for a fruit i don't even like much.
Post by: GoodForAnother on August 25, 2015, 10:22:58 PM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 16, 2015, 03:50:22 PM
Replaced the oil/filter, fuel filter, and air filter on the JD this weekend in prep to aerate in the next week or two. Turns out I am handy AF. Who knew?
hey, how is that tow behind aerator working out anyway?
Post by: CNS on September 18, 2015, 07:34:02 PM
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Post by: steve dave on September 18, 2015, 08:36:05 PM
Post by: The Big Train on September 18, 2015, 08:39:49 PM
Post by: Tobias on September 18, 2015, 08:40:42 PM
Post by: slobber on September 18, 2015, 08:54:06 PM
you are already planning on building a bigger house with an even bigger lawn?retiring to Vermont
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Post by: The Big Train on September 18, 2015, 08:54:56 PM
you are already planning on building a bigger house with an even bigger lawn?retiring to Vermont
Gonna win 'em all!
why vermont?
Post by: slobber on September 19, 2015, 06:43:56 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 19, 2015, 08:08:46 AM
You know what's an awesome medium size tree for yard or landscaping? Amur Maple. Especially the clump variety. Awesome.
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 21, 2015, 02:28:36 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on September 21, 2015, 04:33:19 PM
still haven't mowed the backyard (since may!) and some of that crap is like nipple high on me.what kind of shithole hood do you live in?
Post by: star seed 7 on September 21, 2015, 05:20:07 PM
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Post by: The Big Train on November 21, 2015, 07:57:19 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on November 21, 2015, 08:12:09 PM
Mowed the backyard, for the first time since may, this afternoonthis post would be alot cooler with before and after pics
Post by: star seed 7 on November 21, 2015, 08:22:01 PM
Post by: CNS on November 21, 2015, 08:53:38 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 21, 2015, 09:04:45 PM
Well, at least you only have to look at it until like April before it grows back out.
Moving in like a month :cool:
Post by: The Big Train on November 21, 2015, 09:06:16 PM
Post by: slobber on November 21, 2015, 09:39:02 PM
Mowed the backyard, for the first time since may, this afternoonWrong thread. Take it to the Lawn Neglect/ Horrible Neighbor thread you bad person.
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Post by: star seed 7 on November 21, 2015, 10:06:28 PM
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Post by: Institutional Control on January 27, 2016, 03:03:04 PM
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Post by: AppleJack on January 27, 2016, 03:19:25 PM
I'm gonna get crazy on the lawn this year, however, I'm not lawn smart. When do I need to pre-seed or whatever to make sure my lawn balls out like the neighbors.
March or some rough ridin' crap?
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 27, 2016, 03:20:25 PM
hello everyone -
I'm gonna get crazy on the lawn this year, however, I'm not lawn smart. When do I need to pre-seed or whatever to make sure my lawn balls out like the neighbors.
March or some rough ridin' crap?
October or November
Post by: AppleJack on January 27, 2016, 03:21:29 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 27, 2016, 03:33:32 PM
Post by: CNS on January 27, 2016, 03:36:11 PM
oh. uhhh so now what? just punt 2016?
aerate if you have paths in your yard from dog, kids, etc in april or something. Also, fertilize and do a pre-emergent. Just keep the weeds down. Then, in like Sept, seed. In something like Nov, winterize.
Post by: AppleJack on January 27, 2016, 03:37:55 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on January 27, 2016, 03:40:22 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 27, 2016, 03:54:05 PM
you are both too kind to me. may the gods keep the wolves in hills and the women in your beds.
:fatty:
Post by: HerrSonntag on January 27, 2016, 04:29:33 PM
I've decided to do my own yardwork at the new house. With the pool, my yard is very small. I was going to go with a push reel mower. Anyone have any experience with them?i have one that came with the house (like, it was sitting behind the garage after i bought it) its never worked very well, it'd seize up alot. When it did run, it seemed to work fine, and it wasn't even that sharp.
Post by: HerrSonntag on January 27, 2016, 04:32:12 PM
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Im going to put down preemergant for the crabgrass, but is there anything i can do about the henbit pictured above this late? (Id always heard you had to put stuff down for it in the fall) IRC i have a patch in the back that comes back every year.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on January 27, 2016, 08:22:44 PM
TIA
Post by: CNS on January 27, 2016, 08:32:57 PM
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Post by: slobber on January 27, 2016, 08:42:03 PM
Fits, call Ryan Lawn and Tree. Those guys are top notch.
AJ, seed during a warm stretch in Feb or March. Get some more grass growing to assist the process next fall. Yes, you missed the optimum time for NE KS over seeding sept/October, but if you have a week stand, you can still get it established late winter so that the majority of it will survive the pre emergent herbicide. Do not skip the pre emergent. Get it out on time. Call your local extension service :ksugrad: for proper timing.
Herr: anything with 2,4-d or salt of dicamba will setback or kill that henbit. Spray in the middle of a 4-5 day stretch of 60 degree days. If it is off by a couple of degrees or a day, don't worry. You will slow it down enough that it won't impact your lawns green up in the spring. Winterize next year.
Edit: 5:7 on a Wednesday night. You get what you pay for.
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on January 27, 2016, 08:47:57 PM
You need to post your location (like stupid Fritz did) and the type of grass you are trying to grow. Those are two important points that must be known.
Fits, call Ryan Lawn and Tree. Those guys are top notch.
AJ, seed during a warm stretch in Feb or March. Get some more grass growing to assist the process next fall. Yes, you missed the optimum time for NE KS over seeding sept/October, but if you have a week stand, you can still get it established late winter so that the majority of it will survive the pre emergent herbicide. Do not skip the pre emergent. Get it out on time. Call your local extension service :ksugrad: for proper timing.
Herr: anything with 2,4-d or salt of dicamba will setback or kill that henbit. Spray in the middle of a 4-5 day stretch of 60 degree days. If it is off by a couple of degrees or a day, don't worry. You will slow it down enough that it won't impact your lawns green up in the spring. Winterize next year.
Edit: 5:7 on a Wednesday night. You get what you pay for.
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Ryan may be top notch but they aren't worth the money IMO. I had them doing the fertilizing and such for a couple years and I had just as many weeds as when I did it myself. It was nice being able to yell at someone about the weeds but still not worth the money.
Post by: The Big Train on January 27, 2016, 08:50:41 PM
Post by: slobber on January 27, 2016, 08:52:32 PM
(Not Big Ryan, so all of you dumbasses can cool your jets)
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You get what you pay foreff off
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on January 27, 2016, 09:13:22 PM
Wow! Which program were you on? They do a great job, but if they sucked for you, sorry to hear.
(Not Big Ryan, so all of you dumbasses can cool your jets)
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The they do stuff every couple of months and leave a little sign in my yard but I still had weeds program :dunno:
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Post by: meow meow on March 15, 2016, 03:20:27 PM
Already got the email. My "guy" will be mowing later this week.
thanks for the reminder, better give my guy a call
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Our backyard sucks. No grass, just dirt and wild onions all over. Every now and again I pick them and feed them to my neighbors two pet goats.
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Put them in your morning eggs with some mushrooms, unless you use chemicals on your "yard", then don't.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 16, 2016, 09:59:16 AM
Already got the email. My "guy" will be mowing later this week.
I hope it isn't the same "guy" who broke our window.
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Post by: That_Guy on March 25, 2016, 01:55:20 PM
Serious question - if I give only two shits about my 1.5 acres, should I be worried about the alarming number of mole holes/tunnels? Or consider them free aeration?
Set some traps!
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Post by: CopperBowl on March 25, 2016, 01:57:10 PM
Serious question - if I give only two shits about my 1.5 acres, should I be worried about the alarming number of mole holes/tunnels? Or consider them free aeration?
Set some traps!
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Secondary question, after a positive response to "should I be worried?" I'm hopeful I can rest safe with the knowledge the only risk is a twisted ankle in a family game of flag football.
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Post by: slobber on March 27, 2016, 09:51:38 AM
Two reasons: you have young seedlings that will not tolerate the preen regent as well as established grass. Second, with a thin stand the first year, you will have some problems with weeds. A split application with extend your control.
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Post by: Skipper44 on March 27, 2016, 05:27:08 PM
I've basically never done anything with a lawn, except mowing it, but this past fall I embarked upon starting my back yard over from scratch. I killed everything with glyphosate. Verticut the lawn, seeded the whole thing, and watered that bitch by hand twice a day. This spring I probably have between 70% and 80% coverage, verticut the lawn again about a week ago and seeded again. Here in about another four weeks planning on putting down weed and feed once the new grass has been mowed. Any other advice from gE's resident lawn experts?are you in KS or another clay heavy area? Aerating may be worthwhile
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 27, 2016, 09:51:17 PM
I've basically never done anything with a lawn, except mowing it, but this past fall I embarked upon starting my back yard over from scratch. I killed everything with glyphosate. Verticut the lawn, seeded the whole thing, and watered that bitch by hand twice a day. This spring I probably have between 70% and 80% coverage, verticut the lawn again about a week ago and seeded again. Here in about another four weeks planning on putting down weed and feed once the new grass has been mowed. Any other advice from gE's resident lawn experts?are you in KS or another clay heavy area? Aerating may be worthwhile
Right over the state line in KC.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 27, 2016, 09:51:54 PM
Split the pre emerge application in half. Make the second application about 3-4 weeks after the first.
Two reasons: you have young seedlings that will not tolerate the preen regent as well as established grass. Second, with a thin stand the first year, you will have some problems with weeds. A split application with extend your control.
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thanks, dobber :thumbsup:
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 27, 2016, 10:11:07 PM
I put down the standard Scotts weed&feed three weeks ago. Next weekend, I'm going to put down Milorganite, which is what lots of lawn nerds rave about. Two spring fertilizer treatments four weeks apart is too much, i know, but I've decided I'm going for one of those lush envy of the block lawns this year. I'm going to feed and water the hell out of it. Love having my irrigation on a well.
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 27, 2016, 11:10:48 PM
Post by: wabash909 on March 28, 2016, 04:21:04 AM
I've basically never done anything with a lawn, except mowing it, but this past fall I embarked upon starting my back yard over from scratch. I killed everything with glyphosate. Verticut the lawn, seeded the whole thing, and watered that bitch by hand twice a day. This spring I probably have between 70% and 80% coverage, verticut the lawn again about a week ago and seeded again. Here in about another four weeks planning on putting down weed and feed once the new grass has been mowed. Any other advice from gE's resident lawn experts?
Assuming you put down an application of turf starter fertilizer with the new seed application this Spring?
Just make sure to not put down the weed and feed too soon with the new grass coming in. Any seed that hasn't taken off, won't.
I'd also say, just remain patient. Every year, I look at my yard and get all concerned with patches that haven't come in yet and uneveness by late April it is thick and wonderful.
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Post by: Pete on April 03, 2016, 05:12:09 PM
Lawnmower just blew up. Like, pieces of the engine came off!
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Post by: IPA4Me on April 03, 2016, 05:20:03 PM
Lawnmower just blew up. Like, pieces of the engine came off!My zero turn took a dump on Friday. It's now in the shop getting a new engine. Thankfully my nice neighbor let me borrow his today.
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Post by: slobber on April 03, 2016, 05:41:19 PM
But I like yard work...me and Oscar, two peas in a pod!Lawnmower just blew up. Like, pieces of the engine came off!
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Post by: slobber on April 03, 2016, 05:41:49 PM
I will be buying a new one. Had this one about 8 years I think.Lawnmower just blew up. Like, pieces of the engine came off!My zero turn took a dump on Friday. It's now in the shop getting a new engine. Thankfully my nice neighbor let me borrow his today.
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Post by: wetwillie on April 03, 2016, 06:00:56 PM
Post by: slobber on April 03, 2016, 06:05:16 PM
200 years from now people will look back on lawn mania in the United States and have hearty lulzBecause they will have invented even better ways of growing grass to help provide cleaner air.
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Post by: star seed 7 on April 04, 2016, 07:59:05 AM
working hard to be the last on my block to mow. working v well so far
I've already won :cool:
Post by: ChiComCat on April 04, 2016, 08:13:55 AM
Post by: IPA4Me on April 04, 2016, 08:16:14 AM
working hard to be the last on my block to mow. working v well so farI did it. Neighbors mowed three times before I started trying.
Post by: Gooch on April 04, 2016, 09:23:10 AM
Post by: Skipper44 on April 04, 2016, 12:36:18 PM
Need help from elite lawn people. I bought a house last fall and the lawn looks like crap. I did some fall "weed and feed" stuff and it looks a little better but still shitty. Do I have a chance at fixing this myself, should I use a company like TruGreen, or should I sod it?location? how big? in ground sprinkler?
Post by: slobber on April 04, 2016, 07:06:59 PM
Do you think you'd enjoy doing it yourself? You probably won't save a ton of money, but if there is personal satisfaction, get after it. I will help! (itt)Need help from elite lawn people. I bought a house last fall and the lawn looks like crap. I did some fall "weed and feed" stuff and it looks a little better but still shitty. Do I have a chance at fixing this myself, should I use a company like TruGreen, or should I sod it?location? how big? in ground sprinkler?
Post by: sys on April 04, 2016, 07:16:31 PM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on April 04, 2016, 10:05:00 PM
Serious question - if I give only two shits about my 1.5 acres, should I be worried about the alarming number of mole holes/tunnels? Or consider them free aeration?
Get one of these and a 30 pack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV1BrKl8v-I
Post by: ChiComCat on April 04, 2016, 10:09:11 PM
Need help from elite lawn people. I bought a house last fall and the lawn looks like crap. I did some fall "weed and feed" stuff and it looks a little better but still shitty. Do I have a chance at fixing this myself, should I use a company like TruGreen, or should I sod it?location? how big? in ground sprinkler?
Not terribly big, average lawn size I guess. No in ground sprinkler. The part that gets more shade looks noticeably better. A bunch of dandelions
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 05, 2016, 09:04:34 AM
Need help from elite lawn people. I bought a house last fall and the lawn looks like crap. I did some fall "weed and feed" stuff and it looks a little better but still shitty. Do I have a chance at fixing this myself, should I use a company like TruGreen, or should I sod it?location? how big? in ground sprinkler?
Not terribly big, average lawn size I guess. No in ground sprinkler. The part that gets more shade looks noticeably better. A bunch of dandelions
Did you put a pre-emergent weed control down this spring? That's probably your dandelion problem. Pre-emergent stops the weeds from germinating in spring, so it's too late to do it now. In the future, the stores sell bags of spring weed&feed (Scotts, Vigoro, etc.)that contains the pre-emerge, so put that down in early spring once the nighttime temps hit 50 degrees for a couple of days straight. this year that came a lot earlier - first part of March.
For now, you should still kill the weeds off with a liquid selective herbicide. "Selective" means it kills weeds but not the grass. You can find a number of different brands at the stores, and it doesn't really matter which brand. The active ingredient is probably "dimethylamine." Make sure you buy a liquid concentrate, then mix it up and spray it using a tank sprayer (maybe $20). This is way better in the long run than buying one of those pre-mixed hose attachment things.
For example, buy this: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Spectracide-32-oz-Concentrate-Weed-Stop-for-Lawns-Plus-Crabgrass-Killer-HG-95702-5/202056487
Don't buy this: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Spectracide-32-oz-Ready-to-Spray-Weed-Stop-Concentrate-for-Lawns-HG-95835-1/100352322
You're going to need to apply this every month or so until your lawn is thick enough to choke out the weeds naturally.
You should also put down a general purpose fertilizer now (again, don't bother buying the stuff with pre-emergent - it's too late). The best fertilizer is Milorganite if you can get it.
This is all pretty easy to do. Set your mower height pretty high to let your grass grow longer. You won't have to feed or water as much, and the taller grass chokes out weeds.
September is the best time to plant grass, especially without an irrigation system. Rent a verticutter to chop up the existing lawn and create a better seed bed, spread your seed and a seed starter fertilizer, and then water enough to keep the seed damp for at least 14 days. You might consider hiring a pro to this part for you.
Post by: ChiComCat on April 05, 2016, 09:20:19 AM
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 05, 2016, 10:04:32 AM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 05, 2016, 10:07:58 AM
how hard is it to replace a pull cord for a lawn mower ?? :frown:
easy. what make/model?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 05, 2016, 10:15:09 AM
toro, no clue I've had it for 10+years. I figured it can't be that difficult I've changed the oil, filter, blades all by myself before but have always been able to re-tie the cord but last summer my last time mowing I pulled it clear outhow hard is it to replace a pull cord for a lawn mower ?? :frown:
easy. what make/model?
Post by: Skipper44 on April 05, 2016, 10:22:48 AM
Thanks - Will give it a whirl. I don't want to pay some lawn people $50 to do 8 treatments or something but would pay them once to do a difficult part.buying a pump sprayer like KSU_W and $100-ish drop spreader makes the fertilizing and weed control pretty easy.
Renting verticutters and aerators is much more of a pain in the ass and you can get pay & get it done cheaper if can get a HOA deal or even a couple of neighbors together since you have a what I assume is a 1/3 to 1/4 of an acre yard.
That said, if your yard hasn't been verticut in years and you are going to seed this fall you should rent them and do the following:
1- mow as short as you can without scalping the yard.
2- verticut fairly deeply to get as much of the thatch (old grass & leaves left over from not bagging) displaced and loose
3- rake up and/or mow & bag as much of the thatch as you can.
4- aerate
5- put down your grass seed - I personally just seed the hell out it, turn the bare & thin spots yellow with seed and thoroughly overseed even the good area. My thinking is grass seed is relatively cheap and easy compared to the rest of this process and all the watering to come.
6- verticut again but adjust the blades to a shallow setting so they are just pushing the seeds in to the ground for good seed to dirt contact with the added benefit of speeding up the breakdown of the little turds left over from aerating
Ideally you would do steps 1 thru 4 in late fall/early September so you can be ready to seed right before a September cold front that brings both rain and lower temps for growing the new grass.
Of the top of my head renting a verticutter or an aerator is around $50 minimum so the above is going to cost you $150 + however much grass seed you need. You can prolly get a guy to come do all of it but you won't be able to control the timing.
Post by: ChiComCat on April 05, 2016, 10:30:08 AM
Got a couple neighbors that may be interested in splitting costs of the equipment rental so may give that a whirl.
Post by: Skipper44 on April 05, 2016, 10:33:15 AM
Post by: _33 on April 05, 2016, 10:37:00 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on April 05, 2016, 10:39:37 AM
How long ago did you do the fertilizer? There may still be some benefit in putting down weed & feed in a few weeks especially if you have some non yard maintaining neighbors. This is part of why Slobber's advice of splitting your spring weed & feed application in to 2 about 4 to 6 weeks apart is a great thing.
Fertilizer was in October
Post by: Skipper44 on April 05, 2016, 10:44:22 AM
Post by: _33 on April 05, 2016, 11:37:36 AM
I would still do the weed & feed then, I believe you likely missed the window be ahead of the first crab grass germination but you will still stop some of it and it helps with the other crap that is in everyone's yard.
Are you talking to me or that other guy?
Post by: Skipper44 on April 05, 2016, 12:14:26 PM
ChicatI would still do the weed & feed then, I believe you likely missed the window be ahead of the first crab grass germination but you will still stop some of it and it helps with the other crap that is in everyone's yard.
Are you talking to me or that other guy?
Slobber or another Big Turf expert can come in here and correct me but I don't there is really too much that can go wrong with fertilizing every 6 to 8 weeks. The main negative to me is it can make for shallow root growth but my south johnson co lot is a thin layer of top soil over clay so I would rather fertilize often for a nice green lawn that helps keep out the weeds because I am going to water all summer anyways.
Post by: _33 on April 05, 2016, 03:05:58 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 05, 2016, 03:32:35 PM
So I should wait 6-8 weeks before applying weed and feed since I just applied crabgrass preventer with fertilizer?
I would. Too much fertilizer can burn the lawn and promote unhealthy growth. Better yet, I'd spray down a liquid selective herbicide (see my post above) and put down Milorganite fertilizer about 6 weeks after you put down the first fertilizer.
Post by: slobber on April 05, 2016, 03:33:52 PM
The more you fertilize, the more frequently you will have to mow.
If you already put out a full rate of pre-emergent herbicide, don't put out any more. You may have not had it incorporated (by rain fall) to the right depth and just missed a few weeds.
You can always buy a pre-emergent granular product that is not on fertilizer.
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 05, 2016, 03:35:26 PM
I am confused. Too many posts that I dnr.come fix my lawnmower cord.. tia
The more you fertilize, the more frequently you will have to mow.
If you already put out a full rate of pre-emergent herbicide, don't put out any more. You may have not had it incorporated (by rain fall) to the right depth and just missed a few weeds.
You can always buy a pre-emergent granular product that is not on fertilizer.
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Post by: slobber on April 05, 2016, 03:37:21 PM
Ready to use is a trigger spray bottle that is diluted to the correct concentration when you buy it. Much more expensive to apply.
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Post by: slobber on April 05, 2016, 03:38:09 PM
I would totally and for real come do that if I lived in the same town as you.I am confused. Too many posts that I dnr.come fix my lawnmower cord.. tia
The more you fertilize, the more frequently you will have to mow.
If you already put out a full rate of pre-emergent herbicide, don't put out any more. You may have not had it incorporated (by rain fall) to the right depth and just missed a few weeds.
You can always buy a pre-emergent granular product that is not on fertilizer.
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Post by: IPA4Me on April 18, 2016, 04:05:29 AM
Repair shop wanted $2100 for a new engine and some other repairs. Eff it. Bought a new 54" zero turn on Saturday. Damn. It's fast and cuts nice. One hour for 1.5 acres.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 18, 2016, 08:27:30 AM
100 bags of mulch today
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Why didn't you just order 12 cubic yards of mulch and have it dumped in your driveway? Wheel barrel that crap around.
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Post by: Emo EMAW on April 18, 2016, 09:51:21 AM
Post by: meow meow on April 18, 2016, 10:32:01 AM
A decent amount of my back yard grass has that white powdery fungus stuff on it. It doesn't appear to be getting better after a couple weeks. I've read that things to do are 1) don't water in evening, 2) give more sunlight. But seeing as how I'm not going to bulldoze my neighbor's house or cut down our awesome beautiful old trees I think fungicide is the next obvious answer. Any experience with this?
I saw a couple spots on my lawn with this over the weekend also
Post by: EMAWican on April 18, 2016, 10:34:59 AM
A decent amount of my back yard grass has that white powdery fungus stuff on it. It doesn't appear to be getting better after a couple weeks. I've read that things to do are 1) don't water in evening, 2) give more sunlight. But seeing as how I'm not going to bulldoze my neighbor's house or cut down our awesome beautiful old trees I think fungicide is the next obvious answer. Any experience with this?
I saw a couple spots on my lawn with this over the weekend also
Time for a rock garden.
Post by: EMAWican on April 18, 2016, 10:39:31 AM
I'm sure the posters in the pocket of big-chemical will say to spray it 10 times.
Post by: Tobias on April 18, 2016, 10:44:31 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 18, 2016, 11:06:39 AM
The back is knee high in some spots and this rain is totally fist rough ridin' me into having to mow it soon too :curse:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 18, 2016, 11:10:49 AM
Post by: meow meow on April 18, 2016, 11:12:08 AM
Broke down and mowed the front on Wednesday :frown:
The back is knee high in some spots and this rain is totally fist rough ridin' me into having to mow it soon too :curse:
pics?
Post by: star seed 7 on April 18, 2016, 11:13:16 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 18, 2016, 11:15:19 AM
Post by: Tobias on April 18, 2016, 11:15:35 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 18, 2016, 11:22:56 AM
The brown stripe is a sidewalk. The brown circle was where some weeds got like chest high and when I mowed them down it killed ever y thing. I spread some patch seed on it and it's full of tiny little baby grass now. The brown animal is my dog searching for the ball I threw.
Post by: Skipper44 on April 18, 2016, 11:28:21 AM
Post by: Tobias on April 18, 2016, 11:28:48 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 18, 2016, 11:31:20 AM
does your lease not have any language about taking care of the yard?
That's why I spread the patch seed
Post by: slobber on April 18, 2016, 11:33:06 AM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 18, 2016, 11:52:12 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on April 18, 2016, 11:53:48 AM
my yard is entirely dandelions. like it looks like i should be harvesting seed.
Me too - I am not seeing a good way to fight this. I tried weed killer and they essentially gave me the middle finger. Weed burner maybe but most of my yard would be black.
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 18, 2016, 12:49:34 PM
my yard is entirely dandelions. like it looks like i should be harvesting seed.
Me too - I am not seeing a good way to fight this. I tried weed killer and they essentially gave me the middle finger. Weed burner maybe but most of my yard would be black.
When did you do the weed killer? The way I understand it (dobbs chime in here if I'm wackying this up) is the weed killer tricks the plant into outgrowing its root system. So at first they grow all big and then they can't support themselves and die. So maybe yours are in this phase.
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2016, 12:51:18 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on April 18, 2016, 12:55:37 PM
my yard is entirely dandelions. like it looks like i should be harvesting seed.
Me too - I am not seeing a good way to fight this. I tried weed killer and they essentially gave me the middle finger. Weed burner maybe but most of my yard would be black.
I'd get a fertilizer with broadleaf weed killer in it. To be fully effective, it's best to get out there after a rain or morning dew and get this on there sometime in May.
http://www.scotts.com/smg/goprod/turf-builder-weed-and-feed/prod11670004 (http://www.scotts.com/smg/goprod/turf-builder-weed-and-feed/prod11670004)
You may want to buy two bags and do another in July. The chemicals should target some of the seed that's dormant and will plan on germinating this fall.
Then, in late August, cut your lawn down pretty short, do some verticut aerating, and overseed the crap out of it and use some golf course starter. The biggest key to preventing dandelions, clover, and the rest of the broadleaf weeds is to choke them out with healthy grass.
We had a ton of yardwork done in our back yard last year, and we had Bobcats and other heavy equipment tearing up our side yards and back yard, so I've got some weed problems this Spring. One more good year of diligence with the fertilizer, weed control, overseeding, etc. should get me back to where I need to be come a year from now.
Post by: CNS on April 18, 2016, 12:57:50 PM
MS. Wacky loves to mow and said once we get a house, she wants that to be her chore. Will the neighbors think I'm an abusive FP for allowing that? :dunno:
CNSWife mows our lawn. She thinks its relaxing. Since buying a riding lawn mower and moving to the new house, I have mowed maybe 6 times in like 4 yrs.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 18, 2016, 12:58:40 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 18, 2016, 12:59:37 PM
:thumbs:MS. Wacky loves to mow and said once we get a house, she wants that to be her chore. Will the neighbors think I'm an abusive FP for allowing that? :dunno:
CNSWife mows our lawn. She thinks its relaxing. Since buying a riding lawn mower and moving to the new house, I have mowed maybe 6 times in like 4 yrs.
Post by: CNS on April 18, 2016, 01:00:56 PM
Why do people hate dandelions? It's like a tiny little baby Sunflower (the state plant or something)
The more mind blowing questions is how do you not have an absolute crap ton in that pic? Grass choking them out?
Post by: star seed 7 on April 18, 2016, 01:03:11 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 18, 2016, 01:19:45 PM
my yard is entirely dandelions. like it looks like i should be harvesting seed.
Me too - I am not seeing a good way to fight this. I tried weed killer and they essentially gave me the middle finger. Weed burner maybe but most of my yard would be black.
I'm renting so I really don't care and won't spend any money on it. If i remember right, they die down here within a couple weeks. Those bastards pop back up the next day after I mow. It's impressive.
Post by: Cire on April 18, 2016, 01:32:45 PM
Not as thick as I'd like. I"m on like a slab of clay not sure there is anything to do about that though.
Post by: slobber on April 18, 2016, 02:00:22 PM
Depends on the mode of action, so I can't make fun of you and say you are wrong.my yard is entirely dandelions. like it looks like i should be harvesting seed.
Me too - I am not seeing a good way to fight this. I tried weed killer and they essentially gave me the middle finger. Weed burner maybe but most of my yard would be black.
When did you do the weed killer? The way I understand it (dobbs chime in here if I'm wackying this up) is the weed killer tricks the plant into outgrowing its root system. So at first they grow all big and then they can't support themselves and die. So maybe yours are in this phase.
Don't spray right after you mow. Give the weeds a day or two to recover. You want them actively growing. If the already seeded out, you probably won't kill them because their biological reason for living is done anyway and they won't be actively growing.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 19, 2016, 01:49:20 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuAL9YpG.jpg&hash=dea9282c8d29e9a1719b16ce021abfe9ad31cebf)
Post by: Brock Landers on April 19, 2016, 01:55:59 PM
Post by: slobber on April 19, 2016, 02:11:50 PM
This continues to the street and then back behind the house.Oh man! Go to outdoor department and buy a bunch of everything and spray the crap out of that!
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuAL9YpG.jpg&hash=dea9282c8d29e9a1719b16ce021abfe9ad31cebf)
Post by: star seed 7 on April 19, 2016, 02:12:23 PM
Post by: slobber on April 19, 2016, 02:23:32 PM
Why?Big Chemical, of course!
Post by: Tobias on April 19, 2016, 02:23:56 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 19, 2016, 02:29:17 PM
Why?Big Chemical, of course!
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/gardening-blog/2015/may/12/dandelions-pollinators-wildlife-garden
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 19, 2016, 02:31:13 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 19, 2016, 02:43:29 PM
This continues to the street and then back behind the house.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuAL9YpG.jpg&hash=dea9282c8d29e9a1719b16ce021abfe9ad31cebf)
I want to stand in that yard while the wind is blowing and have my picture taken.
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 19, 2016, 03:01:39 PM
This continues to the street and then back behind the house.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuAL9YpG.jpg&hash=dea9282c8d29e9a1719b16ce021abfe9ad31cebf)
I want to stand in that yard while the wind is blowing and have my picture taken.
I am just going to go out on a limb here and assume the inside of the house is probably not much better. That's surely not the yard of a homeowner.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 19, 2016, 03:51:21 PM
watanabe, you need mint
the money manager? or a mint? I mean I had fish for lunch but I think it smells fine.
Post by: Tobias on April 19, 2016, 03:52:16 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 19, 2016, 03:53:52 PM
This continues to the street and then back behind the house.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuAL9YpG.jpg&hash=dea9282c8d29e9a1719b16ce021abfe9ad31cebf)
I want to stand in that yard while the wind is blowing and have my picture taken.
I am just going to go out on a limb here and assume the inside of the house is probably not much better. That's surely not the yard of a homeowner.
You're right, I rent. Inside is fine tho.
I didn't catch the noon ag report, but I'm assuming with all the recent rains, the price of Dandelions should be up at least 50 cents a bushel. :crossfingers:
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 19, 2016, 04:07:00 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA (http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA)
Post by: slobber on April 19, 2016, 04:08:30 PM
If you spray this everywhere, it will kill all of themIf you add a bit of dicamba to that, it will work much better! (That is a pro-tip, not a Big Chemical tip)
http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA (http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA)
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 19, 2016, 04:12:52 PM
Thats good advice, i might need to switch to something that contains both after my current bottle runs out. I always have problems with killing off all the existing weeds but 2,4-d amine doesn't work as well on preventing weeds from sprouting as dicamba does. Got any favorite manufacturers that combine two such products in a shelf stable manner?If you spray this everywhere, it will kill all of themIf you add a bit of dicamba to that, it will work much better! (That is a pro-tip, not a Big Chemical tip)
http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA (http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA)
Post by: slobber on April 19, 2016, 04:39:23 PM
Can just buy separately and mix yourself.Thats good advice, i might need to switch to something that contains both after my current bottle runs out. I always have problems with killing off all the existing weeds but 2,4-d amine doesn't work as well on preventing weeds from sprouting as dicamba does. Got any favorite manufacturers that combine two such products in a shelf stable manner?If you spray this everywhere, it will kill all of themIf you add a bit of dicamba to that, it will work much better! (That is a pro-tip, not a Big Chemical tip)
http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA (http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA)
Post by: IPA4Me on April 19, 2016, 04:41:51 PM
No toxic mixture concerns?Can just buy separately and mix yourself.Thats good advice, i might need to switch to something that contains both after my current bottle runs out. I always have problems with killing off all the existing weeds but 2,4-d amine doesn't work as well on preventing weeds from sprouting as dicamba does. Got any favorite manufacturers that combine two such products in a shelf stable manner?If you spray this everywhere, it will kill all of themIf you add a bit of dicamba to that, it will work much better! (That is a pro-tip, not a Big Chemical tip)
http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA (http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA)
Post by: slobber on April 19, 2016, 04:53:32 PM
Keep away from tomatoes and cotton. New grass seed won't grow for about a month. Farmers mix them all of the time.No toxic mixture concerns?Can just buy separately and mix yourself.Thats good advice, i might need to switch to something that contains both after my current bottle runs out. I always have problems with killing off all the existing weeds but 2,4-d amine doesn't work as well on preventing weeds from sprouting as dicamba does. Got any favorite manufacturers that combine two such products in a shelf stable manner?If you spray this everywhere, it will kill all of themIf you add a bit of dicamba to that, it will work much better! (That is a pro-tip, not a Big Chemical tip)
http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA (http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA)
Post by: Fedor on April 20, 2016, 11:43:58 AM
This is for a scorched earth policy correct? Not for getting rid of weeds in your already established grass.Keep away from tomatoes and cotton. New grass seed won't grow for about a month. Farmers mix them all of the time.No toxic mixture concerns?Can just buy separately and mix yourself.Thats good advice, i might need to switch to something that contains both after my current bottle runs out. I always have problems with killing off all the existing weeds but 2,4-d amine doesn't work as well on preventing weeds from sprouting as dicamba does. Got any favorite manufacturers that combine two such products in a shelf stable manner?If you spray this everywhere, it will kill all of themIf you add a bit of dicamba to that, it will work much better! (That is a pro-tip, not a Big Chemical tip)
http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA (http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA)
Post by: _33 on April 20, 2016, 12:06:18 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 20, 2016, 12:09:53 PM
Post by: slobber on April 20, 2016, 01:00:14 PM
Nope. Will not kill established grasses. It will inhibit new grass seed from germinating, hence the reason for not putting out fresh seed for a month or so after applying.This is for a scorched earth policy correct? Not for getting rid of weeds in your already established grass.Keep away from tomatoes and cotton. New grass seed won't grow for about a month. Farmers mix them all of the time.No toxic mixture concerns?Can just buy separately and mix yourself.Thats good advice, i might need to switch to something that contains both after my current bottle runs out. I always have problems with killing off all the existing weeds but 2,4-d amine doesn't work as well on preventing weeds from sprouting as dicamba does. Got any favorite manufacturers that combine two such products in a shelf stable manner?If you spray this everywhere, it will kill all of themIf you add a bit of dicamba to that, it will work much better! (That is a pro-tip, not a Big Chemical tip)
http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA (http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA)
Post by: slobber on April 20, 2016, 01:01:46 PM
Should i plant grass right now in a couple bare spots from where I took out some shrubs or just wait until fall?Plant it! Water a bit twice a day for a week and it will grow. Then water it once a day for another week. May not be perfect, but it will start to establish grass and it will keep out some weeds.
Post by: Fedor on April 20, 2016, 01:25:03 PM
:thumbsup: I think I mixed up 2,4-d up with Roundup in my head. I am going to get some dicamba on the way home!!!Nope. Will not kill established grasses. It will inhibit new grass seed from germinating, hence the reason for not putting out fresh seed for a month or so after applying.This is for a scorched earth policy correct? Not for getting rid of weeds in your already established grass.Keep away from tomatoes and cotton. New grass seed won't grow for about a month. Farmers mix them all of the time.No toxic mixture concerns?Can just buy separately and mix yourself.Thats good advice, i might need to switch to something that contains both after my current bottle runs out. I always have problems with killing off all the existing weeds but 2,4-d amine doesn't work as well on preventing weeds from sprouting as dicamba does. Got any favorite manufacturers that combine two such products in a shelf stable manner?If you spray this everywhere, it will kill all of themIf you add a bit of dicamba to that, it will work much better! (That is a pro-tip, not a Big Chemical tip)
http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA (http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA)
Post by: slobber on April 20, 2016, 01:30:59 PM
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Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 20, 2016, 01:52:05 PM
Keep away from tomatoes and cotton. New grass seed won't grow for about a month. Farmers mix them all of the time.No toxic mixture concerns?Can just buy separately and mix yourself.Thats good advice, i might need to switch to something that contains both after my current bottle runs out. I always have problems with killing off all the existing weeds but 2,4-d amine doesn't work as well on preventing weeds from sprouting as dicamba does. Got any favorite manufacturers that combine two such products in a shelf stable manner?If you spray this everywhere, it will kill all of themIf you add a bit of dicamba to that, it will work much better! (That is a pro-tip, not a Big Chemical tip)
http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA (http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA)
I read dicamba is also toxic to conifers?
Post by: star seed 7 on April 20, 2016, 03:12:05 PM
Post by: slobber on April 20, 2016, 05:55:31 PM
Yes, don't spray any trees with it. I mentioned cotton and tomatoes because if you sprayed near them on a warm day it can volatilize. Just spray your lawn. It will kill the broad leaves. It won't kill a tree near where you sprayed. Don't spray when it's real hot or windy.Keep away from tomatoes and cotton. New grass seed won't grow for about a month. Farmers mix them all of the time.No toxic mixture concerns?Can just buy separately and mix yourself.Thats good advice, i might need to switch to something that contains both after my current bottle runs out. I always have problems with killing off all the existing weeds but 2,4-d amine doesn't work as well on preventing weeds from sprouting as dicamba does. Got any favorite manufacturers that combine two such products in a shelf stable manner?If you spray this everywhere, it will kill all of themIf you add a bit of dicamba to that, it will work much better! (That is a pro-tip, not a Big Chemical tip)
http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA (http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Ag-Selective-Broadleaf-Control/dp/B0072289CA)
I read dicamba is also toxic to conifers?
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Post by: IPA4Me on April 20, 2016, 06:15:54 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 20, 2016, 07:02:00 PM
Dobber!
Rain :curse:
Post by: Tobias on April 20, 2016, 07:04:29 PM
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Post by: slobber on April 20, 2016, 08:54:40 PM
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Post by: meow meow on April 21, 2016, 09:04:20 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 21, 2016, 09:14:15 AM
Post by: The Big Train on April 21, 2016, 10:29:16 AM
that was uh... that was there already when i moved
The dog or the dead body barrel? Or both?
Post by: AppleJack on November 16, 2016, 01:09:12 PM
Post by: Tobias on November 16, 2016, 01:13:34 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 16, 2016, 01:15:09 PM
Do you guys have to take PTO just for your leaves?
This is why I left work early the other day. It's an unending battle. And who wants to spend their weekends taking care of leaves? Not me that's who.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2016, 01:26:05 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 16, 2016, 01:29:24 PM
Post by: sys on November 16, 2016, 01:35:37 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 16, 2016, 01:36:38 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on November 16, 2016, 01:37:45 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 16, 2016, 01:38:06 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 16, 2016, 01:38:51 PM
Post by: sys on November 16, 2016, 01:39:23 PM
Post by: sys on November 16, 2016, 01:40:19 PM
do you have access to a Home Depot where a brand new blade is $12?
maybe! how hard is unscrewing the old blade and putting on this new one?
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2016, 01:40:52 PM
i think my lawn mower blades aren't very sharp anymore. do i need to sharpen them and how do i do that without paying anyone or doing a lot of work myself?
If you can take them off, you can get them sharpened for fairly cheap at any lawnmower store
Post by: sys on November 16, 2016, 01:41:10 PM
do you have access to a vice and angle grinder and someone who knows how to use both?
no, no and no.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 16, 2016, 01:41:24 PM
do you have access to a Home Depot where a brand new blade is $12?
maybe! how hard is unscrewing the old blade and putting on this new one?
super pud
Post by: steve dave on November 16, 2016, 01:41:38 PM
do you have access to a Home Depot where a brand new blade is $12?
maybe! how hard is unscrewing the old blade and putting on this new one?
I've done this two times and I suck complete crap at handy stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2016, 01:42:01 PM
Post by: Tobias on November 16, 2016, 01:42:44 PM
If you can take them off, you can get them sharpened for fairly cheap at any lawnmower store
you forgot to log out of your other account
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2016, 01:44:15 PM
Post by: sys on November 16, 2016, 01:45:48 PM
If you can take them off, you can get them sharpened for fairly cheap at any lawnmower store
is this better than getting the new blade and is a lawnmower store the same thing as home depot or lowes?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 16, 2016, 01:46:39 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 16, 2016, 01:47:58 PM
If you can take them off, you can get them sharpened for fairly cheap at any lawnmower store
is this better than getting the new blade and is a lawnmower store the same thing as home depot or lowes?
anything that has "small engine" in the name is what you're looking for. usually have like 400 lawn mowers in front of some shitty building. maybe some four wheelers. snow blowers in cold places.
Post by: sys on November 16, 2016, 01:49:02 PM
What kind of mower do you have? Rider or push
push. one thing is i've only tipped it on it's back once before and like the engine flooded with gas or something and wouldn't start for a day or two when i did that. so i guess i should wait till it runs dry before trying to unscrew the blade?
Post by: Tobias on November 16, 2016, 01:49:02 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 16, 2016, 01:50:00 PM
Post by: sys on November 16, 2016, 01:50:51 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 16, 2016, 01:51:10 PM
Post by: sys on November 16, 2016, 01:55:09 PM
My plan is to have the old one sharpened and then just swap out. But I won't. I'll just buy a new one.
nail the old one to wall of your garage to look boss and use for self defense if need be
i believe i will do both of these things.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2016, 01:58:02 PM
Post by: mocat on November 16, 2016, 02:00:22 PM
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Post by: sys on November 16, 2016, 02:01:12 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 16, 2016, 03:04:10 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 16, 2016, 03:12:39 PM
my lawn mower came with the house and looks a lot like thisI've tried one similar to that out before.. what a pain in the ass..
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Post by: sys on November 16, 2016, 03:22:15 PM
sys how do you feel about the self-checkout stations at retailers like Home Depot?
self checkingout is an incredible improvement in our american way of life that probably isn't adequately accounted for by traditional metrics like gdp and such. at home depot, they are slightly less good than at grocery stores because you often buy stuff that is too big or awkwardly shaped to easily scan with the fixed scanners. also the home depot watcher/checker people usually look you in the eyes and say thank you or good bye when you leave anyways which sorta defeats the whole purpose of the self checkout stations.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2016, 03:24:52 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 16, 2016, 03:29:25 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 16, 2016, 03:31:11 PM
Let's assume that there were two lines open right next to each other. One self checkout, one with a clerk. Which do you choose? Assume most everything to be equal.
how much crap do I have?
Post by: sys on November 16, 2016, 03:35:37 PM
Let's assume that there were two lines open right next to each other. One self checkout, one with a clerk. Which do you choose? Assume most everything to be equal.
that's not even an interesting question. you need to make the clerked line more attractive in some way to identify the equilibrium point.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 16, 2016, 03:37:33 PM
Let's assume that there were two lines open right next to each other. One self checkout, one with a clerk. Which do you choose? Assume most everything to be equal.
that's not even an interesting question. you need to make the clerked line more attractive in some way to identify the equilibrium point.
You have 100 canned items
Post by: sys on November 16, 2016, 03:47:37 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 16, 2016, 03:49:32 PM
Let's assume that there were two lines open right next to each other. One self checkout, one with a clerk. Which do you choose? Assume most everything to be equal.
that's not even an interesting question. you need to make the clerked line more attractive in some way to identify the equilibrium point.
I don't need to formulate an interesting question as your response tells me what I wanted to know.
I have a friend that parks at the rear of Wal-Mart's to avoid dealing with people, que weird.
Post by: sys on November 16, 2016, 03:54:30 PM
I have a friend that parks at the rear of Wal-Mart's to avoid dealing with people, que weird.
how does that eliminate or reduce the number of people dealt with?
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 16, 2016, 03:58:12 PM
I have a friend that parks at the rear of Wal-Mart's to avoid dealing with people, que weird.
how does that eliminate or reduce the number of people dealt with?
I will inquire and find out. I will post our chat history here for group dissection.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on November 16, 2016, 04:13:56 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 16, 2016, 04:15:44 PM
What kind of mower do you have? Rider or push
push. one thing is i've only tipped it on it's back once before and like the engine flooded with gas or something and wouldn't start for a day or two when i did that. so i guess i should wait till it runs dry before trying to unscrew the blade?
is it ok to turn your mower upside down? Or do just have to just tip it?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 16, 2016, 04:24:16 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on November 16, 2016, 04:29:33 PM
I hate it when people refer to Wal-Mart as Wal-Mart's.According to my mother-in-law. Every. Damn. Store. 's. Gaaaah.
Post by: sys on November 16, 2016, 04:32:44 PM
why not just prop it up and change the blade that way? or you could drain the fluids its actually not hard at all on a mower to do
how is that better than running it dry and then turning it over?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 16, 2016, 04:35:13 PM
Post by: CNS on November 16, 2016, 05:14:06 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2016, 06:26:51 PM
We put a man on the moon like 50 yrs ago
Allegedly
Post by: HerrSonntag on November 16, 2016, 10:28:45 PM
Post by: sys on November 16, 2016, 10:34:06 PM
The gas isn't usually what you worry about flipping a lawnmower. When you flip it you can get oil running back up into the fuel system which can ruin your spark plug and carburator
ok, so how do you avoid that (the easiest way)?
Post by: pissclams on November 16, 2016, 10:43:19 PM
The gas isn't usually what you worry about flipping a lawnmower. When you flip it you can get oil running back up into the fuel system which can ruin your spark plug and carburator
ok, so how do you avoid that (the easiest way)?
pay someone to mow your yard and sell your mower at the next garage sale or just throw it in a nearby ditch
Post by: sys on November 16, 2016, 10:46:05 PM
Post by: CNS on November 17, 2016, 07:33:31 AM
Post by: HerrSonntag on November 17, 2016, 07:58:54 AM
Manufacturer should have instructions in the user manual. Generally, for a riding mower the whole deck drops and slides out (then you can flip just the deck) then a push mower you generally just kind of tilt up and put on blocks, or the likeThe gas isn't usually what you worry about flipping a lawnmower. When you flip it you can get oil running back up into the fuel system which can ruin your spark plug and carburator
ok, so how do you avoid that (the easiest way)?
Post by: Institutional Control on November 17, 2016, 08:05:53 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 17, 2016, 08:55:38 AM
This is opening up a can of worms. Sys, your supposed to change that oil like twice a season, or something. This makes me think it has its original oil in it.
That's probably only true if you are mowing for a living, like every day of the summer or something.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 17, 2016, 08:58:40 AM
This is opening up a can of worms. Sys, your supposed to change that oil like twice a season, or something. This makes me think it has its original oil in it.
Did you not read my post? I've gone 10 years without changing the oil on mine once. Changing oil is for pimps and rubes.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 17, 2016, 09:00:32 AM
Does anyone use TrueGreen? I'm really starting to hate them and their constant upselling and showing up whenever the hell they want.
I had a lawn that was out of control with weeds and such so I used them for a season. You're right they call a bunch and are generally annoying. I kicked them to the curb after one season. Their program worked though, lawn was in good shape following spring.
You might try Ryan Lawn and Tree if you're in KC (you're TX tho right?).
Post by: CNS on November 17, 2016, 09:03:58 AM
Wife was home one day when they came to service the yard. The service tech didn't know she was home. He sprayed the front like he was supposed to, went in back, leaned on the fence for about 10 min, then left after putting the ticket on the door saying he treated the whole lawn.
Will never hire them again and tell everyone in ear shot about this whenever their name comes up.
Post by: Skipper44 on November 17, 2016, 09:05:05 AM
sys it is also advisable to disconnect the spark plug wire when removing or replacing the bladeThe gas isn't usually what you worry about flipping a lawnmower. When you flip it you can get oil running back up into the fuel system which can ruin your spark plug and carburator
ok, so how do you avoid that (the easiest way)?
Post by: Institutional Control on November 17, 2016, 09:17:50 AM
Does anyone use TrueGreen? I'm really starting to hate them and their constant upselling and showing up whenever the hell they want.
I had a lawn that was out of control with weeds and such so I used them for a season. You're right they call a bunch and are generally annoying. I kicked them to the curb after one season. Their program worked though, lawn was in good shape following spring.
You might try Ryan Lawn and Tree if you're in KC (you're TX tho right?).
Yes, in DFW area.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 17, 2016, 09:30:11 AM
I have a friend that parks at the rear of Wal-Mart's to avoid dealing with people, que weird.
how does that eliminate or reduce the number of people dealt with?
He probably checks out at automotive. I do the same if I'm grabbing something quick from the back of the store (auto, toys, ammo)
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 17, 2016, 09:31:08 AM
I have a friend that parks at the rear of Wal-Mart's to avoid dealing with people, que weird.
how does that eliminate or reduce the number of people dealt with?
He probably checks out at automotive. I do the same if I'm grabbing something quick from the back of the store (auto, toys, ammo)
So I asked him about it. He responds "I don't wanna talk about it." :lol:
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 17, 2016, 09:32:14 AM
This is opening up a can of worms. Sys, your supposed to change that oil like twice a season, or something. This makes me think it has its original oil in it.
LOL
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 17, 2016, 09:37:34 AM
:blank: I just told you.. Drain the oil.. should be a under the deck and you can take a wrench and loosen it to get the oil outThe gas isn't usually what you worry about flipping a lawnmower. When you flip it you can get oil running back up into the fuel system which can ruin your spark plug and carburator
ok, so how do you avoid that (the easiest way)?
Post by: pissclams on November 17, 2016, 09:49:36 AM
-or-
replace your grass with soybeans and sorghum and become the farmer who feeds 100 hungry children.
Post by: Belvis Noland on November 17, 2016, 10:23:28 AM
Post by: sys on November 17, 2016, 11:59:14 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 17, 2016, 12:04:16 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 17, 2016, 12:07:01 PM
Post by: sys on November 17, 2016, 12:15:55 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 17, 2016, 12:22:02 PM
Post by: Tobias on November 17, 2016, 12:22:46 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 17, 2016, 12:25:43 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 17, 2016, 12:30:50 PM
Post by: sys on November 17, 2016, 01:03:31 PM
http://www.wikihow.com/Maintain-a-Lawn-Mower
Post by: star seed 7 on November 17, 2016, 01:06:42 PM
Post by: sys on November 17, 2016, 01:15:46 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 17, 2016, 01:17:39 PM
Post by: sys on November 17, 2016, 01:19:54 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 17, 2016, 01:23:19 PM
cogent but unhelpful, liblib.
My point was that the process isn't complicated, but you're making it complicated
Post by: sys on November 17, 2016, 01:24:57 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 17, 2016, 01:25:38 PM
Post by: sys on November 17, 2016, 01:27:27 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 17, 2016, 01:29:33 PM
Post by: sys on November 17, 2016, 01:34:12 PM
Post by: pissclams on November 17, 2016, 01:34:18 PM
now, picture this scenario happening in your mind's eye: you duct taping razor blades to your existing dull lawnmower blade
finally- for the finale- picture this scenario in your mind's eye (final mind's eye scenario of this post): you mowing your lawn and the mower is slicing through all of your grasses like a hot knife through butter. as each blade of the grass falls to its death, it has a smile on its face because you* took the time to invent the world's first razor blade lawnmower
*you = me in the above mind's eye scenario
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 17, 2016, 01:35:57 PM
Post by: sys on November 17, 2016, 01:37:16 PM
picture in your mind's eye the following: a box of razor blades and a roll of duct tape and your lawnmower laying upside down
the whole problem is prepping the mower to be upside down. if they'd just consent to be turned over like a normal tool, i could change the blade three, four times a year and wouldn't need the razor blades.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 17, 2016, 01:38:35 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 17, 2016, 01:39:26 PM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 17, 2016, 01:40:31 PM
I tip the crap out of my mower and turn it over all the time. have had it for ten years and it still works fine. changed the blade for the first time last year.
Have you ever changed the oil?
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 17, 2016, 01:41:44 PM
I tip the crap out of my mower and turn it over all the time. have had it for ten years and it still works fine. changed the blade for the first time last year.
Have you ever changed the oil?
changed it? oh god no.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 17, 2016, 01:49:24 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 17, 2016, 01:54:54 PM
Well, if I can get 10 years out of the first tank of oil, then I just don't see the point of ever changing it. CNS must get paid by big oil or something.
I occasionally check the oil though and have to put more in a couple of times.
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 17, 2016, 02:00:05 PM
The football field would look like a rough ridin' abandoned drive in movie theater.
Post by: kim carnes on November 17, 2016, 02:00:55 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 17, 2016, 02:07:17 PM
Sometimes I wonder why we don't have natural grass football and baseball fields at Cats stads, then I read a thread like this and realize the type of people that are associated with our university.
The football field would look like a rough ridin' abandoned drive in movie theater.
:lol:
Post by: star seed 7 on November 17, 2016, 02:09:28 PM
Sometimes I wonder why we don't have natural grass football and baseball fields at Cats stads, then I read a thread like this and realize the type of people that are associated with our university.
The football field would look like a rough ridin' abandoned drive in movie theater.
It already does (dax!)
Post by: sys on November 17, 2016, 02:14:25 PM
I occasionally check the oil though and have to put more in a couple of times.
would you say you typically add more shortly after tipping the mower and having the oil all spill out into the air filter?
Post by: star seed 7 on November 17, 2016, 02:17:01 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on November 17, 2016, 02:40:02 PM
What kind of mower do you have? Rider or push
push. one thing is i've only tipped it on it's back once before and like the engine flooded with gas or something and wouldn't start for a day or two when i did that. so i guess i should wait till it runs dry before trying to unscrew the blade?
is it ok to turn your mower upside down? Or do just have to just tip it?
Most push mowers are made that you tip up the front. If you do that and put something heavy like a rock or sandback on the handle while its no the ground, you can work on the bottom of the mower; sharpen/change blades or scrape out the stuck on grass.
Also, probably the #1 tip for keeping your mower running well and for a long time is to regularly clean or replace the air filter.
sys it is also advisable to disconnect the spark plug wire when removing or replacing the blade
I get this and I'm all for being safe, but I've never read or heard about a mower spontaneously starting and cutting someone's hand off.
Finally, using the auto entrance/exit to go in and check out at Walmart is often advisable.
Post by: sys on November 17, 2016, 02:43:02 PM
there aren't any self check stations at the oil change entrance. makes you think about how trustworthy the front-tipping advice is, actually.
Post by: kso_FAN on November 17, 2016, 02:47:03 PM
it never would have occurred to me to tip from the front instead of a side. they should make manuals with this kind of information.
there aren't any self check stations at the oil change entrance. makes you think about how trustworthy the front-tipping advice is, actually.
I prefer self check, this true. But if you are buying from the back part of walmart, especially near the automotive section, the time you save with a shorter walk into and around the store more than makes up for the time you save self checking. JMHO.
Post by: CNS on November 17, 2016, 02:52:35 PM
Well, if I can get 10 years out of the first tank of oil, then I just don't see the point of ever changing it. CNS must get paid by big oil or something.
Not at all. I went 8 yrs without doing it a while back. I just know what is supposed to be done and how to feel shame for not doing it for 8 yrs.
Post by: CNS on November 17, 2016, 02:53:33 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 17, 2016, 02:56:51 PM
Well, if I can get 10 years out of the first tank of oil, then I just don't see the point of ever changing it. CNS must get paid by big oil or something.
Not at all. I went 8 yrs without doing it a while back. I just know what is supposed to be done and how to feel shame for not doing it for 8 yrs.
I think you should only feel shame if the mower stops working because you didn't change the oil.
Post by: CNS on November 17, 2016, 02:58:44 PM
Post by: sys on November 17, 2016, 03:20:39 PM
Sys, is this the right time to shame you for not being able to make your mint spread adequately enough to ensure you have no grass?
i've complained before about how inaccurate antiminter propaganda is. it simply will not outcompete grass in the central california climate.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 17, 2016, 03:22:33 PM
The shame really comes in when you finally do it and realize it only took like $2 and about 5min.
How do you get under the mower?
Post by: CNS on November 17, 2016, 03:27:09 PM
The shame really comes in when you finally do it and realize it only took like $2 and about 5min.
How do you get under the mower?
I meant the oil change. :ROFL: I haven't ever changed or sharpened blades. :ROFL:
Post by: Skipper44 on November 17, 2016, 09:29:10 PM
Also a bench grinder is the easiest/fastest way to sharpen a blade but I imagine something like this for $7 from amazon in any old corded drill would do a fine job. A big c clamp to pin it to the workbench will make it super easy and could save you a copay.
https://www.amazon.com/Lawnmower-Blade-Sharpener-Works-Power/dp/B003N2V59C (https://www.amazon.com/Lawnmower-Blade-Sharpener-Works-Power/dp/B003N2V59C)
Post by: star seed 7 on November 17, 2016, 09:37:31 PM
Post by: Bloodfart on November 17, 2016, 09:45:05 PM
(https://www.opgi-static.com/common/CH28892.jpg)
They get plugged up with grass juice and gunk so make sure you clean it out or you might strip it out.
:sdeek:
Post by: IPA4Me on November 17, 2016, 09:46:01 PM
Post by: sys on November 17, 2016, 11:54:27 PM
sorry skipper but we're still stuck on which way we're going to tip this son of a bitch
if it can be tipped at all, which is by no means a settled question.
Post by: sys on November 17, 2016, 11:55:42 PM
Sys watch out for the dreaded square socket drain plug.
(https://www.opgi-static.com/common/CH28892.jpg)
They get plugged up with grass juice and gunk so make sure you clean it out or you might strip it out.
that looks like a sign from god that lawnmower oil isn't meant to be changed or drained.
Post by: Tobias on November 18, 2016, 01:00:51 AM
Post by: AppleJack on November 18, 2016, 09:20:22 AM
Do you think they understand? Or do you think they are super annoyed?
Post by: Skipper44 on November 18, 2016, 09:28:38 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on November 18, 2016, 09:28:49 AM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 18, 2016, 09:35:35 AM
Post by: Tobias on November 18, 2016, 09:36:25 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on November 18, 2016, 09:37:32 AM
guys I have a serious issue. My mansion is amongst several others that are owned by old, retired people. They all pay to have their lawns maintained and leaves picked up and crap. Being that I am young (old) and handsome, I do not pay for this service. I feel super bad that I can't keep up and my leaves are ruining my life and eff oak trees, etc.
Do you think they understand? Or do you think they are super annoyed?
They absolutely don't understand and are very annoyed.
Post by: Tobias on November 18, 2016, 09:39:11 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 18, 2016, 09:39:18 AM
guys I have a serious issue. My mansion is amongst several others that are owned by old, retired people. They all pay to have their lawns maintained and leaves picked up and crap. Being that I am young (old) and handsome, I do not pay for this service. I feel super bad that I can't keep up and my leaves are ruining my life and eff oak trees, etc.
Do you think they understand? Or do you think they are super annoyed?
They absolutely don't understand and are very annoyed.
That's no reason to change anything you are doing, though.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 18, 2016, 09:48:32 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 11:16:45 AM
I have the same problem, I was picking up my leaves this week with a headlamp on. My neighbors are all pretty nice and understanding people, and they see me in a constant state of motion so maybe that enables their understanding. Just don't be a lazy ass in front of them and I'm sure they understand. Especially if you have kids. If you don't have kids they hate you for sure and nothing short of picking up the leaves will change that.
Post by: Skipper44 on November 18, 2016, 11:32:50 AM
1. Mow the grass as short as possible
2. Use this to blow leaves into piles
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3. Rake piles into this
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Post by: CNS on November 18, 2016, 12:19:23 PM
1a. live on a hill with a good south/west exposure
1b. enjoy pretty orange, yellow, and red leaves on your very green lawn at the beginning of the leaves falling
2. mow lawn as needed
3. wait for large winds that always come this time of year
4. feel sad that all the leaves are off the trees, but enjoy how clear, green, and lush your yard is because it loves fall weather
5. don't feel bad at all when neighbors to the north and east are raking again
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 18, 2016, 01:21:31 PM
5. don't feel bad at all when neighbors to the north and east are raking again
Yes. If they didn't like raking the leaves more than once, they would have bought higher ground.
Post by: HerrSonntag on November 18, 2016, 09:04:56 PM
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Post by: _33 on May 08, 2018, 10:25:58 AM
Post by: Tobias on May 08, 2018, 10:41:06 AM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 08, 2018, 11:50:48 AM
Post by: mocat on May 08, 2018, 01:28:44 PM
back yard: not one single dandelion.
:dunno:
Post by: meow meow on May 08, 2018, 02:16:33 PM
front yard: 100% dandelion coverage. more dandelions than blades of grass.
back yard: not one single dandelion.
:dunno:
Sounds like you need what he's having...
True green story from like 10 yrs ago:
Wife was home one day when they came to service the yard. The service tech didn't know she was home. He sprayed the front like he was supposed to, went in back, leaned on the fence for about 10 min, then left after putting the ticket on the door saying he treated the whole lawn.
Will never hire them again and tell everyone in ear shot about this whenever their name comes up.
Post by: _33 on May 08, 2018, 02:23:50 PM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on May 08, 2018, 04:04:20 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 08, 2018, 04:27:34 PM
My yard in MHK is rough ridin' awful but i'm needing some suggestions on the best seed or stuff to use on our yard.
If you don't own the yard, this is a terrible idea.
Post by: GregKSU1027 on May 08, 2018, 04:30:17 PM
Yeah but my landlord is gonna pay me to do it.My yard in MHK is rough ridin' awful but i'm needing some suggestions on the best seed or stuff to use on our yard.
If you don't own the yard, this is a terrible idea.
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Post by: meow meow on May 08, 2018, 04:36:25 PM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on May 08, 2018, 04:44:21 PM
how much? maybe get a real summer jobI have two jobs already.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 08, 2018, 06:40:18 PM
Post by: mocat on May 08, 2018, 08:03:27 PM
Have your landlord rent you a very nice roto-tiller. Run the tines in reverse and rip the surface of your yard a new one. Just go to town on it. Then buy enough tall fescue to cover your yard. If you give your acreage to a seed dealer, they should get you what you need. Spread that seed all over, then put down enough water to turn your yard into a swamp. About a week of that should get a nice yard started. You really should have done this a month ago, though.
Greg this guy prefers 30 degrees to 80 degrees
Post by: GregKSU1027 on May 08, 2018, 08:06:01 PM
Yeah hard pass on this. I think I'll just pour some Scott's grow all on the lawn and see what the eff happensHave your landlord rent you a very nice roto-tiller. Run the tines in reverse and rip the surface of your yard a new one. Just go to town on it. Then buy enough tall fescue to cover your yard. If you give your acreage to a seed dealer, they should get you what you need. Spread that seed all over, then put down enough water to turn your yard into a swamp. About a week of that should get a nice yard started. You really should have done this a month ago, though.
Greg this guy prefers 30 degrees to 80 degrees
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Post by: wetwillie on May 08, 2018, 09:43:22 PM
Hardscape
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 08, 2018, 11:31:56 PM
Have your landlord rent you a very nice roto-tiller. Run the tines in reverse and rip the surface of your yard a new one. Just go to town on it. Then buy enough tall fescue to cover your yard. If you give your acreage to a seed dealer, they should get you what you need. Spread that seed all over, then put down enough water to turn your yard into a swamp. About a week of that should get a nice yard started. You really should have done this a month ago, though.
Greg this guy prefers 30 degrees to 80 degrees
Good lord, roto-tilling in 30 degree weather would be amazing. :love:
Post by: star seed 7 on May 08, 2018, 11:34:13 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on May 08, 2018, 11:35:31 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on May 11, 2018, 10:11:29 AM
Post by: TheHamburglar on May 12, 2018, 10:11:42 PM
not enough people weed and feeding ITT.
Like triple-13?
Post by: TheHamburglar on May 12, 2018, 10:14:19 PM
Post by: steve dave on May 13, 2018, 11:50:52 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 13, 2018, 12:26:53 PM
Post by: steve dave on May 13, 2018, 01:15:54 PM
The only child in my neighborhood is like 2, can they now lawns and if so how much do they charge?
I'd say like middle school age should be ok depending on how crappy you will accept. I give the neighbor kid $50 each time he does it but honestly he does about a $25 job. I can trust him with my garage code though. he also takes my garbage down to the curb when I'm out of town so that's another bonus.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 13, 2018, 01:39:55 PM
Post by: steve dave on May 13, 2018, 01:50:55 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 13, 2018, 01:54:17 PM
do you get garbage in that $11k?
Half the time
Post by: kso_FAN on May 23, 2018, 09:10:28 AM
https://www.facebook.com/combinesharvestersthreshers/videos/1620147484770651/
Post by: Cire on May 23, 2018, 02:03:40 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on May 23, 2018, 03:29:50 PM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on May 23, 2018, 07:32:21 PM
I have a middle schooler that will cut and weed eat for 20 bucks.Jfc poor kid
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Post by: steve dave on May 24, 2018, 10:53:38 AM
big shot attorney cats of the board: is my verbal contract with the neighbor kid legally binding or can I just pull a trump and tear this rough rider up and renegotiate whenever I feel like it?
other ethical people of the board that can be but are not required to be big shot attorney cats: same question as above.
some important data you may require to make a ruling:
-neighbor kid is estimated to be about 13 years old give or take 5 years.
-his parents are very nice. however, I'm about 90% certain they saw me pee in my backyard at like midnight one time when I didn't think anyone was around. later saw them on their deck.
-his grandfather lives in their walkout basement. has his own like entrance door and stuff. he is also very nice.
-he uses his own lawnmower, blower, and trimmer despite me offering mine because he's not comfortable using mine.
-as mentioned above he takes out my garbage and recycling when I'm out of town.
-possibly the most bizarre item: he doesn't even mow his families yard. the dad does.
need a ruling asap as I'm leaving town this afternoon. tia.
Post by: KCFDcat on May 24, 2018, 01:23:48 PM
there's a kid in the hood that is advertising on the neighborhood facebook to cut any lawn in the neighborhood for $20. and I've already set the rules of the game with neighbor kid at $50.Is neighbor kid going out of town at all this summer? If so, have kid 2.0 come and mow. Or, if you want to straight up intimidate TF out of neighbor kid, tell him to take a week off, thus forcing him to watch kid 2.0 take his job out from under him.
big shot attorney cats of the board: is my verbal contract with the neighbor kid legally binding or can I just pull a trump and tear this rough rider up and renegotiate whenever I feel like it?
other ethical people of the board that can be but are not required to be big shot attorney cats: same question as above.
some important data you may require to make a ruling:
-neighbor kid is estimated to be about 13 years old give or take 5 years.
-his parents are very nice. however, I'm about 90% certain they saw me pee in my backyard at like midnight one time when I didn't think anyone was around. later saw them on their deck.
-his grandfather lives in their walkout basement. has his own like entrance door and stuff. he is also very nice.
-he uses his own lawnmower, blower, and trimmer despite me offering mine because he's not comfortable using mine.
-as mentioned above he takes out my garbage and recycling when I'm out of town.
-possibly the most bizarre item: he doesn't even mow his families yard. the dad does.
need a ruling asap as I'm leaving town this afternoon. tia.
If it’s of similar quality, offer to renegotiate w neighbor kid at the same rate as kid 2.0.
If neighbor kid declines, hire kid 2.0 to maintain your lawn. Give him an extra 5er to take out the recycling when needed.
Also, v weird about not mowing his own lawn. Maybe his parents can’t afford his rates?
Post by: sys on May 24, 2018, 01:35:05 PM
if you want to even out the economics of the exchange, get a dog and include the care of it in his out of town upkeep services.
Post by: pissclams on May 24, 2018, 01:45:01 PM
just keep paying the neighbor child the $50.
if you want to even out the economics of the exchange, get a dog and include the care of it in his out of town upkeep services.
i agree
the neighbor is ripping you off so badly and it's no one's fault but your own. live up to the commitment you made with him.
scenario 2: fire neighbor, hire new kid. but then he comes and sucks crap. you fire new kid and try to rehire neighbor kid. neighbor kid price just went up to $60. boom, some of you guys have to learn the hard way.
Post by: chum1 on May 24, 2018, 02:35:26 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 24, 2018, 02:42:45 PM
$50 - $20 = $30 for nothing
Post by: steve dave on May 25, 2018, 06:34:28 AM
$50 kid needs to subcontract kid 2.0.
$50 - $20 = $30 for nothing
Holy crap
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Post by: mocat on May 25, 2018, 08:44:31 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 25, 2018, 12:13:03 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 25, 2018, 01:09:02 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on May 28, 2018, 12:02:28 AM
Can i do anything to fill back out my yard or am i stuck with patch city (or i guess annual grass city if i stop applying preventer) until i can overseed in the fall?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 29, 2018, 10:42:33 AM
Post by: nicname on June 05, 2018, 08:30:42 PM
Been watering long and deep since new grass has matured.
I should be able to put some fertilizer on in early July, but plan on overseeing again in fall.
My question is how to finish out these next few months before fall/winter really sets in.
I do plan to do a preemergent next spring, but will likely need to do another overseer next spring/summer as well.
Post by: Cire on July 12, 2018, 10:41:18 PM
I have a middle schooler that will cut and weed eat for 20 bucks.Jfc poor kid
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I tip him five dollars and give him an ice cold pop when his mom picks him up
They are emaw
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Post by: star seed 7 on July 13, 2018, 09:46:02 AM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on July 13, 2018, 10:04:27 AM
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Post by: mocat on July 13, 2018, 10:55:02 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on July 13, 2018, 10:57:28 AM
Post by: sys on July 13, 2018, 11:04:50 AM
As I rework areas of our yard, I have been planting buffalo grass. It's pretty great once you get it established. Doesn't require a lot of water or fertilizer which is a big plus since we have about 3 acres to deal with. You also don't have to mow it as often due to how it grows.
how does it do in a climate with winter rains and summer drought? and does it stand any chance of resisting bermuda and crabgrass invasions?
Post by: 8manpick on July 13, 2018, 11:13:39 AM
I have to mow today guys. And it’s hot. And I’m hungover.
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Don't you have a guy for that?
Post by: XocolateThundarr on July 13, 2018, 11:26:22 AM
another huge plus is that it's disgustingly brown year round so it makes your neighbors' yards look great
That is incorrect. It is actually greener than most of the other grass during the summer if you are talking about comparing non-irrigated yards. Also, when it does go dormant due to no water, it recovers faster and with less moisture than other turf grasses (fescue).
Post by: XocolateThundarr on July 13, 2018, 11:27:34 AM
Xurb'rs like c2w and my uncle don't care about neighbor yards
This is correct. They are far enough from me that I don't really give a crap about them.
Post by: XocolateThundarr on July 13, 2018, 11:35:12 AM
As I rework areas of our yard, I have been planting buffalo grass. It's pretty great once you get it established. Doesn't require a lot of water or fertilizer which is a big plus since we have about 3 acres to deal with. You also don't have to mow it as often due to how it grows.
how does it do in a climate with winter rains and summer drought? and does it stand any chance of resisting bermuda and crabgrass invasions?
It's dormant in the winter so it gives zero fucks about winter moisture. It really doesn't get growing until it gets hot out. It will stand the summer drought better than most other grasses. As far as bermuda goes, it is tough to get anything to resist its invasion. Buffalo grass spreads on the surface of the soil vs. bermuda which spreads on the surface and subsurface. Not sure about crabgrass, but I would bet you would want to apply something to knock it down while the buffalo is still dormant in early spring. I've heard of people spraying their entire yard with roundup in early spring to knock out undesirable grasses/weeds that start growing before their buffalo takes off.
Post by: XocolateThundarr on July 13, 2018, 11:36:09 AM
Post by: sys on July 13, 2018, 11:37:11 AM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on July 13, 2018, 11:43:44 AM
Post by: sys on July 13, 2018, 01:59:24 PM
it doesn't rain at all (0.00 inches) out here from about april-may until november-december, so i think i'd still need to irrigate. but my guess is that the cool season grasses in the seed bank will dominate the hell out of it in the rainy season and the bermuda will beat the eff out of it during the summer, so it'll look like crap at all times of the year and i'll just give up on it. if i plant it at all.
Post by: Cire on July 13, 2018, 04:37:07 PM
what time of year do you seed?
it doesn't rain at all (0.00 inches) out here from about april-may until november-december, so i think i'd still need to irrigate. but my guess is that the cool season grasses in the seed bank will dominate the hell out of it in the rainy season and the bermuda will beat the eff out of it during the summer, so it'll look like crap at all times of the year and i'll just give up on it. if i plant it at all.
Round up the crap out of your yard
Rake it up
Verticut
Seed
Water.
In KS this is best done in September as it is Fri and starts to cool.
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Post by: XocolateThundarr on July 13, 2018, 05:51:26 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on July 14, 2018, 12:43:42 PM
Post by: sys on July 14, 2018, 12:50:30 PM
If you plant buffalo it needs to be in the hottest part of the summer.
apparently normal buffalo grass doesn't do great in california (which makes sense, seasons are inverted compared to the great plains), but there's a cultivar developed for california that manages betters.
downsides - it's only available as plugs, which i dunno. also it sounds like it probably does get its ass kicked by bermuda - and there's bermuda everywhere around (and in) my lawn.
upsides - it looks great. and the idea of only watering once a week and only mowing maybe 3-4 times a year seems incredible.
http://www.ucverdeplugs.com/
Post by: Cire on July 14, 2018, 03:44:44 PM
Just moved. The new house has decent grass and a sprinkler system that works. It hasn't been taken care of for several years and there are some broad leaf weeds coming in spots. Can I spray them now? Would it do any good?
I would think you could round up now. You going to seed in the fall anyway?
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 14, 2018, 04:33:10 PM
Just moved. The new house has decent grass and a sprinkler system that works. It hasn't been taken care of for several years and there are some broad leaf weeds coming in spots. Can I spray them now? Would it do any good?this is my situation too. Crabgrass is coming in bad around the edges. Grass appears thin in quite a few spots in the middle(clippings covering the dirt).
Wasn't watered at all until i moved in around June. Been just trying to get it back greened up.
I don't really want to kill everything and start fresh.
Post by: Cire on July 14, 2018, 05:02:43 PM
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Post by: Cire on July 14, 2018, 05:03:16 PM
Your best off doing just that. The weed and feed and preventive treatment you do next spring should fix the crab grass until fall when you dethatch and then overseed.you're
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 14, 2018, 10:54:24 PM
Your best off doing just that. The weed and feed and preventive treatment you do next spring should fix the crab grass until fall when you dethatch and then overseed.
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Do i dethatch and overseed this fall or next?
Post by: kso_FAN on July 15, 2018, 04:01:23 PM
Just moved. The new house has decent grass and a sprinkler system that works. It hasn't been taken care of for several years and there are some broad leaf weeds coming in spots. Can I spray them now? Would it do any good?
I would think you could round up now. You going to seed in the fall anyway?
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So kill it all and start over?
Post by: pissclams on July 16, 2018, 09:46:45 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 16, 2018, 10:45:09 AM
Just moved. The new house has decent grass and a sprinkler system that works. It hasn't been taken care of for several years and there are some broad leaf weeds coming in spots. Can I spray them now? Would it do any good?
I would think you could round up now. You going to seed in the fall anyway?
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So kill it all and start over?
dear god don't do that. just get spot sprat them and then hit them again in a week if they aren't dead. this summer has been brutal in terms of heat so the crabgrass preventer that people put down in march has burned off and now you are starting to see crabgrass etc especially in the hotter parts of your yard (around curb and sidewalks). spot spray and you're good.
Post by: XocolateThundarr on July 16, 2018, 01:17:43 PM
If you plant buffalo it needs to be in the hottest part of the summer.
apparently normal buffalo grass doesn't do great in california (which makes sense, seasons are inverted compared to the great plains), but there's a cultivar developed for california that manages betters.
downsides - it's only available as plugs, which i dunno. also it sounds like it probably does get its ass kicked by bermuda - and there's bermuda everywhere around (and in) my lawn.
upsides - it looks great. and the idea of only watering once a week and only mowing maybe 3-4 times a year seems incredible.
http://www.ucverdeplugs.com/
That looks pretty great. Plugs aren't bad if you aren't planting a huge area. I would definitely kill the bermuda in the area you are going to plug and make sure you till up the ground to knock out the other vegetation. You may have to get a herbicide made specifically for bermuda to kill it. I've sprayed some with glyphosate before and it didn't totally kill it.....just stunted it for a bit. Probably depends on the weather and breed of bermuda you are trying to get rid of.
Post by: IPA4Me on September 13, 2018, 06:16:26 PM
Post by: steve dave on September 13, 2018, 08:57:49 PM
Somewhere in this thread a stud poster recommended a battery powered trimmer from Lowe's. Man, I love that thing. Had it two or three summers. Finally killed the first spool of string.
My black and decker 70v lithium is still going strong after like 4 years on the same battery. Trim, edge, and then blow it all off on one charge.
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Post by: IPA4Me on June 28, 2019, 01:19:48 PM
https://www.lowes.com/pd/BLACK-DECKER-EASYFEED-20-volt-Max-12-in-Straight-Cordless-String-Trimmer-with-Edger-Capability-Battery-Included/1000696620
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Post by: Katpappy on October 08, 2019, 08:39:01 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on October 09, 2019, 10:04:19 AM
You should be OK. Grass is just like wheat; it lies dormant during cold weather. The seed will not sprout until you get a week or two of sunny warm weather, which is a good thing due to the sprouts are most vulnerable to cold/hot weather.
Thanks. wasn't sure how quick it sprouts. i let time get away from me this fall
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Post by: star seed 7 on April 14, 2020, 03:50:20 PM
I still need to do my last run. Waited until Nov last year iirc
Never did do this.
Took the plunge yesterday finally and paid some dude to mow my lawn this year. Feels great.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 14, 2020, 05:30:48 PM
I've recently been hosing down the grass every time she pees and hopefully that will help.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 24, 2021, 12:01:29 PM
recently got a doggo and she did a number on my yard this winter with pee spots. I'm currently trying out some Scott EZ Seed and hoping that helps will them back in.
I've recently been hosing down the grass every time she pees and hopefully that will help.
Update: hosing down the grass worked pretty well. However she did more damage this winter. Will need to fill those in again.
Thinking of putting down some pre-emergent this weekend for the rest of the lawn. Pretty excited.
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 24, 2021, 12:52:42 PM
In case you aren't aware, it's tough but you have to keep that pre-emergent off your starter stuff.
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yup! :thumbs: I probably should have worded it differently. What time frame should i start seeding? I think last year I started some too late and it was dried out by summer.
Post by: Fedor on March 24, 2021, 02:18:39 PM
My yard is like WWI. Lots of energy and money expended, lots of killing, lots of chemical warfare, desperate attacks, stubbornness, fear. But nothing ever changes. The trenches don't move. The yard is the same. War is hell.This was beautiful, thank you for this 33.
Post by: ben ji on March 24, 2021, 02:23:29 PM
recently got a doggo and she did a number on my yard this winter with pee spots. I'm currently trying out some Scott EZ Seed and hoping that helps will them back in.
I've recently been hosing down the grass every time she pees and hopefully that will help.
Update: hosing down the grass worked pretty well. However she did more damage this winter. Will need to fill those in again.
Thinking of putting down some pre-emergent this weekend for the rest of the lawn. Pretty excited.
My backyard hates me for getting a nutjob GSP like Milo who literally sprints circles around the garden and back/forth between fences slamming on the brakes each time. I fenced off the worst part of the yard and put down some EZ Seed a couple of days ago. If that works I'll just move to another part of the yard in a couple months until eventually I have to go back to where I first started.
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 24, 2021, 02:48:27 PM
recently got a doggo and she did a number on my yard this winter with pee spots. I'm currently trying out some Scott EZ Seed and hoping that helps will them back in.
I've recently been hosing down the grass every time she pees and hopefully that will help.
Update: hosing down the grass worked pretty well. However she did more damage this winter. Will need to fill those in again.
Thinking of putting down some pre-emergent this weekend for the rest of the lawn. Pretty excited.
My backyard hates me for getting a nutjob GSP like Milo who literally sprints circles around the garden and back/forth between fences slamming on the brakes each time. I fenced off the worst part of the yard and put down some EZ Seed a couple of days ago. If that works I'll just move to another part of the yard in a couple months until eventually I have to go back to where I first started.
My dog loves to kill grass with pee
WildcatNkilt, that new mower looks awesome.
Post by: stunted on March 24, 2021, 02:50:10 PM
Post by: Pete on March 24, 2021, 03:50:18 PM
My yard is like WWI. Lots of energy and money expended, lots of killing, lots of chemical warfare, desperate attacks, stubbornness, fear. But nothing ever changes. The trenches don't move. The yard is the same. War is hell.This was beautiful, thank you for this 33.
Yeah agree. The tide did turn in my yard when I got a land ship (Cub Cadet).
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 24, 2021, 04:07:08 PM
My yard is like WWI. Lots of energy and money expended, lots of killing, lots of chemical warfare, desperate attacks, stubbornness, fear. But nothing ever changes. The trenches don't move. The yard is the same. War is hell.This was beautiful, thank you for this 33.
Yeah agree. The tide did turn in my yard when I got a land ship (Cub Cadet).
Going back to paying someone to fertilize and further poison the water supply this year. I've found that it doesn't really help much as compared to when I half ass it, but at least I can yell at someone for when the weeds show up this year. :dunno:
Post by: IPA4Me on March 24, 2021, 04:14:47 PM
Next fall. It's hard af to start grass seed after applying a pre-emergent in the spring. Takes about 8 weeks to hit a growing window. By then, it can be too hot for good germination in your climate.In case you aren't aware, it's tough but you have to keep that pre-emergent off your starter stuff.
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yup! :thumbs: I probably should have worded it differently. What time frame should i start seeding? I think last year I started some too late and it was dried out by summer.
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Post by: catastrophe on March 24, 2021, 05:05:21 PM
why do people like grass so muchI really wish we didn’t have a lawn. But based on the houses I’ve seen without lawns I’m increasingly convinced it’s a necessary evil.
Post by: michigancat on March 24, 2021, 05:20:58 PM
why do people like grass so muchI really wish we didn’t have a lawn. But based on the houses I’ve seen without lawns I’m increasingly convinced it’s a necessary evil.
houses should be closer together
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 24, 2021, 05:40:55 PM
Checked out the sprinkler system again today. Bad news...gotta small leak at the anti siphon valve. Hopefully the $30 repair kit does the trick.
Post by: Kat Kid on May 08, 2021, 08:09:52 PM
Also, I got a solo stove and want to put some rock around it where there is a dead spot and the guy asked me for measurements and because I mentioned the hole from where the slide landing was he asked me for measurements and mentioned pitch and I was like "I'll measure it and get back to you" and now am just going to respond: "actually you will need to take a look, I have no clue."
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on May 08, 2021, 08:32:58 PM
As I start to do one thing to improve my house/yard the next thing just bugs me more. I have raked a couple areas and spread some scotts ez seed and am going to water the crap out of it, but I don't have a ton of hope, more of an experiment. May need to just re-sod a couple areas???Those solo stoves look awesome.
Also, I got a solo stove and want to put some rock around it where there is a dead spot and the guy asked me for measurements and because I mentioned the hole from where the slide landing was he asked me for measurements and mentioned pitch and I was like "I'll measure it and get back to you" and now am just going to respond: "actually you will need to take a look, I have no clue."
Post by: Kat Kid on May 08, 2021, 09:24:08 PM
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Post by: Pete on May 09, 2021, 10:45:46 AM
My friend got a solo stove and canco they rule and are way less smoky than a normal fire pit. The instagram algorithm really works
Those do look cool, but for $500 they better be amazing.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 09, 2021, 01:10:18 PM
Just went and got the mower out of the shed. Only took like 5 minutes to start :Thumbs: That's like a new record. Winterizing actually worked this time. The cheapo i bought from Menards 8 years ago for like $150 keeps on ticking.
Checked out the sprinkler system again today. Bad news...gotta small leak at the anti siphon valve. Hopefully the $30 repair kit does the trick.
the repair kit did the trick :thumbs:
recently got a doggo and she did a number on my yard this winter with pee spots. I'm currently trying out some Scott EZ Seed and hoping that helps will them back in.
I've recently been hosing down the grass every time she pees and hopefully that will help.
Update: hosing down the grass worked pretty well. However she did more damage this winter. Will need to fill those in again.
Thinking of putting down some pre-emergent this weekend for the rest of the lawn. Pretty excited.
My backyard hates me for getting a nutjob GSP like Milo who literally sprints circles around the garden and back/forth between fences slamming on the brakes each time. I fenced off the worst part of the yard and put down some EZ Seed a couple of days ago. If that works I'll just move to another part of the yard in a couple months until eventually I have to go back to where I first started.
my re-seeding of the front yard piss spots worked great. Won't even be able to tell in a few more weeks.
I decided to try the backyard a few weeks later. It was going great until the hail storm last night. Will have to see how the little grass seedlings bounce back.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 09, 2021, 01:14:07 PM
As I start to do one thing to improve my house/yard the next thing just bugs me more. I have raked a couple areas and spread some scotts ez seed and am going to water the crap out of it, but I don't have a ton of hope, more of an experiment. May need to just re-sod a couple areas???
Ive had the best luck seeding in the fall. And recently discovered covering it with Peat Moss makes all the difference. I have had good luck with seeding first thing in the spring. There is just a small window to plant before it gets too hot.
If i had a huge area, i would re-sod. Good luck!
Post by: mocat on May 09, 2021, 01:24:46 PM
I think my friend has the $300 oneMy friend got a solo stove and canco they rule and are way less smoky than a normal fire pit. The instagram algorithm really works
Those do look cool, but for $500 they better be amazing.
Post by: DQ12 on May 10, 2021, 10:13:23 AM
Post by: Pete on May 11, 2021, 09:11:05 AM
Probably going to burn off with plans to seed this fall. The shade in my front yard will make it kind of hard. Probably going to have to bite the bullet and just do other stuff with the vast areas that I don't think will ever grow grass.
I'd go the Grass Pad and give their shade variety a shot. I trust those fuckers with my lawn's life. My backyard has been totally transformed by just following their instructions.
Post by: Pete on May 11, 2021, 09:15:40 AM
As I start to do one thing to improve my house/yard the next thing just bugs me more. I have raked a couple areas and spread some scotts ez seed and am going to water the crap out of it, but I don't have a ton of hope, more of an experiment. May need to just re-sod a couple areas???
Ive had the best luck seeding in the fall. And recently discovered covering it with Peat Moss makes all the difference. I have had good luck with seeding first thing in the spring. There is just a small window to plant before it gets too hot.
If i had a huge area, i would re-sod. Good luck!
I learned the hard lesson to not bother with reseeding until the fall. LOTS of time wasted trying it this time of year, unless it's a shady spot.
Instead of peat moss, which is good, I use this stuff which I believe is better (Grass Pad dudes opinion, which I now agree with). It's rough ridin' amazingly good over the top of seed. Water it lightly like 4 times a day tho.
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Post by: nicname on May 11, 2021, 10:46:17 AM
As I start to do one thing to improve my house/yard the next thing just bugs me more. I have raked a couple areas and spread some scotts ez seed and am going to water the crap out of it, but I don't have a ton of hope, more of an experiment. May need to just re-sod a couple areas???
Ive had the best luck seeding in the fall. And recently discovered covering it with Peat Moss makes all the difference. I have had good luck with seeding first thing in the spring. There is just a small window to plant before it gets too hot.
If i had a huge area, i would re-sod. Good luck!
I learned the hard lesson to not bother with reseeding until the fall. LOTS of time wasted trying it this time of year, unless it's a shady spot.
Instead of peat moss, which is good, I use this stuff which I believe is better (Grass Pad dudes opinion, which I now agree with). It's rough ridin' amazingly good over the top of seed. Water it lightly like 4 times a day tho.
(https://www.greenvelvet.com/product-images/product-images-v1/athletic-field-specialty-products/PrimeraOne-Field-Conditioner.png)
Yes, the only caveat is if you have Bermuda, or other warm season lawn. Then your best bet is to seed in the summer months.
Post by: Kat Kid on August 29, 2021, 11:29:55 AM
If I can do it myself, what very specific things do I need to do? Assume you are talking to a 5th grader.
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Post by: Justwin on August 29, 2021, 09:18:04 PM
Ok folks just mowed the yard for the first time in weeks, my lawn is quite a bit better than the darkest days of the army worms but it still looks like absolute crap. How much am I going to have to pay Blueville or someone else to fix this?
If I can do it myself, what very specific things do I need to do? Assume you are talking to a 5th grader.
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When was the last time your lawn was aerated?
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 29, 2021, 10:31:06 PM
Ok folks just mowed the yard for the first time in weeks, my lawn is quite a bit better than the darkest days of the army worms but it still looks like absolute crap. How much am I going to have to pay Blueville or someone else to fix this?
If I can do it myself, what very specific things do I need to do? Assume you are talking to a 5th grader.
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I can ask bluevillenurserycat who is currently kstateuniversitycat if you want.
Post by: _33 on August 30, 2021, 01:20:56 PM
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Post by: michigancat on August 30, 2021, 01:32:11 PM
i have a problem with grass growing in annoying places where i don't want it. i have a bunch of brick sidewalk and some random other planter areas with gravel and the grass is just relentless. what's the best grass/weed killer spray or whatever
army worms seem to be pretty great at this
Post by: yoga-like_abana on August 30, 2021, 01:35:25 PM
i have a problem with grass growing in annoying places where i don't want it. i have a bunch of brick sidewalk and some random other planter areas with gravel and the grass is just relentless. what's the best grass/weed killer spray or whateverdiesel fuel
Post by: _33 on August 30, 2021, 01:37:15 PM
i have a problem with grass growing in annoying places where i don't want it. i have a bunch of brick sidewalk and some random other planter areas with gravel and the grass is just relentless. what's the best grass/weed killer spray or whatever
From my experience the best way to kill grass is to hire me to try to maintain it and then it will instantly die and never return.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on August 31, 2021, 11:34:03 AM
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Need to get some hardy fescue blend down soon. I just hate getting up to water it.
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Post by: _33 on October 04, 2021, 07:14:49 AM
I have a mole(s) in my front yard…. Is there anyway to get rid of these turds?
No.......... no.
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Post by: Pete on October 04, 2021, 07:46:46 AM
I have a mole(s) in my front yard…. Is there anyway to get rid of these turds?
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I am no expert, but I'd say that you need to put down grub killer every few months for the next year. Gotta kill off their food source.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 04, 2021, 09:01:34 AM
Kill the grubs.They've completely wrecked my grass. Was looking good until about Aug 1.
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Post by: _33 on October 04, 2021, 09:54:51 AM
I have a mole(s) in my front yard…. Is there anyway to get rid of these turds?
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I am no expert, but I'd say that you need to put down grub killer every few months for the next year. Gotta kill off their food source.
In theory. In practice the grub killer just makes them super horny and they make one billion mole babies and turn your entire yard into a mole learning academy where they teach young moles how to dig up yards, create mounds, kill grass, destroy flower beds and humiliate humans in front of their neighbors. Nature is truly a wonder.
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Post by: PandaXpanda on October 05, 2021, 03:02:58 PM
I have a mole(s) in my front yard…. Is there anyway to get rid of these turds?
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I am no expert, but I'd say that you need to put down grub killer every few months for the next year. Gotta kill off their food source.
This should do it.
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Post by: nicname on October 05, 2021, 09:40:54 PM
Ok folks, is it fall? What do I do to my weed infested lawn now?
Just spitballing here, but I'd guess the most you could do is pull and/or spot spray individual broad-leaf weeds. Then wait until spring and have your guy apply some pre-emergent.
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Post by: Justwin on October 06, 2021, 10:56:21 AM
Ok folks, is it fall? What do I do to my weed infested lawn now?
Aerate.
Overseed any thin spots or areas where weeds are heavy.
Fertilize (I use Milorganite).
You can decide next spring if you want to put down some pre-emergent when you fertilize. This would especially help with crabgrass. It just depends on if you want to put down chemicals or not. If you do not want to use chemicals, you can try corn gluten meal.
Post by: Cardiac Cats on October 06, 2021, 10:19:28 PM
Don’t bother with aeration if you’re not watering or you haven’t had rain in the last 5-6 days.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 09, 2021, 11:23:58 AM
I hate black walnut trees
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Post by: Pete on April 11, 2022, 09:54:07 PM
I think my friend has the $300 oneMy friend got a solo stove and canco they rule and are way less smoky than a normal fire pit. The instagram algorithm really works
Those do look cool, but for $500 they better be amazing.
I ordered the "Bonfire" one that was originally 399 when it first came out and on sale for 235. Very exited!
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 12, 2022, 09:01:23 AM
I think my friend has the $300 oneMy friend got a solo stove and canco they rule and are way less smoky than a normal fire pit. The instagram algorithm really works
Those do look cool, but for $500 they better be amazing.
I ordered the "Bonfire" one that was originally 399 when it first came out and on sale for 235. Very exited!
That's a good deal. I think I paid a bit more. It is ok. Its just a vessel to burn wood that looks a bit nicer and has a bunch of marketing behind it.
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 12, 2022, 09:36:33 AM
I cut down a small cedar tree in my backyard. Is there a good reason to remove the stump?Only if it annoys you. If you are patient over the summer you can also burn the stump down.
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Post by: mocat on April 12, 2022, 10:18:05 AM
How often do you guys take your mower in to get the blades sharpened and spark plug replaced? I didn't do it last year. Can I go another year without doing it?
lawn mowers are practically free just run that thing into the ground and then get a new one
Post by: Kat Kid on April 12, 2022, 10:22:27 AM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 12, 2022, 10:27:13 AM
it is right next to a wooden fence so no shot I am going to burn it.drill it and fill it with tordon then.
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2022, 10:44:37 AM
How often do you guys take your mower in to get the blades sharpened and spark plug replaced? I didn't do it last year. Can I go another year without doing it?Blades once a year. spark plug every 3 or so. Change oil every 2. I have no idea if this is the right schedule but just what I’ve done for no reason.
Post by: Kat Kid on April 12, 2022, 11:00:29 AM
it is right next to a wooden fence so no shot I am going to burn it.drill it and fill it with tordon then.
Why tho? It is in the perfect place to ignore, is there any reason to get rid of it?
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Post by: XocolateThundarr on April 12, 2022, 12:48:35 PM
I don't think anything bad will happen but it's probably only like $150 to have someone grind it down
This is the right answer.
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Post by: Cire on April 14, 2022, 07:22:17 AM
Finish it
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 14, 2022, 08:30:32 AM
definitely get rid of that thing. you'll be constantly running it over with your mower if you don't.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 14, 2022, 08:58:58 AM
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Post by: ChiComCat on April 14, 2022, 10:10:46 AM
now i want to know how you cut it down
Hedge clippers maybe?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 14, 2022, 10:10:51 AM
now i want to know how you cut it down
Looks like he told his drunk, overweight neighbor he'd give him $20 if he could tackle that there tree.
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Post by: DQ12 on April 05, 2023, 01:19:38 PM
I think we're going to dump a shitload of rock in the part of our yard that doesn't go grass because of our stupid giant tree that i want to cut down. Probably going to just try to pay someone to come do it.
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 05, 2023, 02:03:06 PM
Ty for the bump, that alleged stump was a hell of a rideGiggled so hard.. RIP stumpzilla
Post by: ben ji on April 05, 2023, 02:40:35 PM
I did this last year for a different spot and about 60% of the area survived over winter. I've come to the realization that my backyard grass will never be pristine as long as I have 2 mutts running around out there all day....just trying to cut down on the mud.
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Post by: Spracne on April 05, 2023, 03:17:36 PM
Man I'm feeling this. The old mutt hated mud and gracefully ran around the yard without tearing up the grass. I barely had to ever wipe her paws of . New mutt is a hard runner and makes a lot of foot plant type cuts. Absolutely devastating to the grass and then when she comes inside she has huge mud cakes between her toes. She's also very sensitive to having her feet held so cleaning her up is a challenging option but I have taught her to pounce on the welcome mat to knock some of it off.
Do you have a spigot out back? Maybe just power wash her feet (nozzle, not actual power washer) first?
Post by: star seed 7 on April 05, 2023, 03:26:41 PM
Post by: mocat on April 05, 2023, 04:02:07 PM
How often do you guys take your mower in to get the blades sharpened and spark plug replaced? I didn't do it last year. Can I go another year without doing it?
lawn mowers are practically free just run that thing into the ground and then get a new one
i am amending this response because it's actually really fun to use a grinder on the mower blade, takes like 30 seconds, and it does seem to make a difference, especially if you are ever plowing through some thick stuff because you waited too long to mow
Post by: DQ12 on March 12, 2024, 09:11:26 AM
On sunday we went to Family Tree and bought a couple of hydrangeas and a yew (to replace the ones that unfortunately perished last year).
I crave being outside and improving my small piece of property. It's my favorite thing to do currently.
Post by: pissclams on March 12, 2024, 08:38:08 PM
last week I cut down all off the long grass plant things (4 of them). I guess they regrow every year but you need to trim them to little stubs.
tomorrow i’m getting my new EarthWay 2600A spreader delivered which i’ll use this weekend to put down the scotts max crabgrass preventer that’s on sale for $15 off right now at costco. pretty hyped about this spreader tbh.
last october I planted 100 tulip bulbs and 50 hyacinth bulbs and i’m really excited to be celebrating the fruits of that labor right now as those bitches are popping up everywhere.
yet to be seen- the hydrangeas I planted last fall. it’s not been seen since november. fingers rough ridin' crossed.
Post by: DQ12 on March 12, 2024, 09:11:01 PM
i’ve been doing the same thing with my weekends- I finally got all of the straggler leaves out of the beds. my neighbors on each side kinda suck at this stuff so I just went onto their property and got the leaves I needed to get gone from there too.That’s a lot of tulips. Our first one bloomed today.
last week I cut down all off the long grass plant things (4 of them). I guess they regrow every year but you need to trim them to little stubs.
tomorrow i’m getting my new EarthWay 2600A spreader delivered which i’ll use this weekend to put down the scotts max crabgrass preventer that’s on sale for $15 off right now at costco. pretty hyped about this spreader tbh.
last october I planted 100 tulip bulbs and 50 hyacinth bulbs and i’m really excited to be celebrating the fruits of that labor right now as those bitches are popping up everywhere.
yet to be seen- the hydrangeas I planted last fall. it’s not been seen since november. fingers rough ridin' crossed.
The ‘drangeas will come. You might go and pull some mulch off if they’re covered at all. Might be some green popping up. Ours are starting to wake up a bit, though one is still sleeping. Some water might also help them.
Post by: Spracne on March 12, 2024, 09:27:01 PM
i’ve been doing the same thing with my weekends- I finally got all of the straggler leaves out of the beds. my neighbors on each side kinda suck at this stuff so I just went onto their property and got the leaves I needed to get gone from there too.
last week I cut down all off the long grass plant things (4 of them). I guess they regrow every year but you need to trim them to little stubs.
tomorrow i’m getting my new EarthWay 2600A spreader delivered which i’ll use this weekend to put down the scotts max crabgrass preventer that’s on sale for $15 off right now at costco. pretty hyped about this spreader tbh.
last october I planted 100 tulip bulbs and 50 hyacinth bulbs and i’m really excited to be celebrating the fruits of that labor right now as those bitches are popping up everywhere.
yet to be seen- the hydrangeas I planted last fall. it’s not been seen since november. fingers rough ridin' crossed.
I forgot for a moment I wasn't in the Ape Room.
Post by: ben ji on March 13, 2024, 12:00:51 AM
i’ve been doing the same thing with my weekends- I finally got all of the straggler leaves out of the beds. my neighbors on each side kinda suck at this stuff so I just went onto their property and got the leaves I needed to get gone from there too.
last week I cut down all off the long grass plant things (4 of them). I guess they regrow every year but you need to trim them to little stubs.
tomorrow i’m getting my new EarthWay 2600A spreader delivered which i’ll use this weekend to put down the scotts max crabgrass preventer that’s on sale for $15 off right now at costco. pretty hyped about this spreader tbh.
last october I planted 100 tulip bulbs and 50 hyacinth bulbs and i’m really excited to be celebrating the fruits of that labor right now as those bitches are popping up everywhere.
yet to be seen- the hydrangeas I planted last fall. it’s not been seen since november. fingers rough ridin' crossed.
Sooooo.....are any of your tulips coming up and about to bloom?
Post by: pissclams on March 13, 2024, 05:03:59 AM
yes the ones in the front yard that face south and get the most sun are getting very close to blooming, two already havei’ve been doing the same thing with my weekends- I finally got all of the straggler leaves out of the beds. my neighbors on each side kinda suck at this stuff so I just went onto their property and got the leaves I needed to get gone from there too.
last week I cut down all off the long grass plant things (4 of them). I guess they regrow every year but you need to trim them to little stubs.
tomorrow i’m getting my new EarthWay 2600A spreader delivered which i’ll use this weekend to put down the scotts max crabgrass preventer that’s on sale for $15 off right now at costco. pretty hyped about this spreader tbh.
last october I planted 100 tulip bulbs and 50 hyacinth bulbs and i’m really excited to be celebrating the fruits of that labor right now as those bitches are popping up everywhere.
yet to be seen- the hydrangeas I planted last fall. it’s not been seen since november. fingers rough ridin' crossed.
Sooooo.....are any of your tulips coming up and about to bloom?
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 13, 2024, 08:17:19 AM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 13, 2024, 08:46:09 AM
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Post by: pissclams on March 13, 2024, 10:30:33 AM
have a newly seeded yard...just picked up one of these babies. I'm too lazy to move the sprinkler many times a day so I'm hoping this will help.what you want is an in-ground sprinkler system
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Post by: IPA4Me on March 13, 2024, 12:01:21 PM
have a newly seeded yard...just picked up one of these babies. I'm too lazy to move the sprinkler many times a day so I'm hoping this will help.Move the hose daily to avoid the yellow trail.
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 13, 2024, 02:17:48 PM
have a newly seeded yard...just picked up one of these babies. I'm too lazy to move the sprinkler many times a day so I'm hoping this will help.what you want is an in-ground sprinkler system
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coming this summer/fall.
also first thing I read in the box was "not recommended for newly seeded lawns" :lol:
It's got stuck twice already...mainly due to the slope of the lawn and the placement of the hose. I may need to rework that.
Post by: pissclams on March 13, 2024, 02:42:51 PM
hell yeah man can’t wait to read about how much you love it.have a newly seeded yard...just picked up one of these babies. I'm too lazy to move the sprinkler many times a day so I'm hoping this will help.what you want is an in-ground sprinkler system
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coming this summer/fall.
also first thing I read in the box was "not recommended for newly seeded lawns" :lol:
It's got stuck twice already...mainly due to the slope of the lawn and the placement of the hose. I may need to rework that.
Post by: _33 on March 13, 2024, 05:17:48 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 13, 2024, 08:24:18 PM
DILEMMA: I need to overseed my lawn right now. It has lots of bare patches and is basically a joke. But if I seed now I can't put down crabgrass preventer for like 6 weeks. What do I do??wait until october and seed it then otherwise you will be wasting your time and money which I assume you have tons of but still might as well wait anyway