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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: steve dave on April 17, 2014, 03:34:58 PM
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makes me rage :curse:
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makes me rage :curse:
Me too, but they both seem to be pretty busy from November-February right now... :dunno:
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Such a pickle
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The waiting bs that sports people feel they have to do may be the most ridiculous thing that is ingrained in our sports culture. I don't understand why sports people think things like jersey retirements and hall of fame enshrinement need so much time. Can people not recognize greatness while they are watching it? I feel like the greatness of these players are diminished over time. When they put Dick Knotsman's number up there, I didn't know who in the hell that was, and frankly many people who enjoyed him were dead. I mean I see his numbers and can recognize he was a great rebounder but other than that, his number whatever it is, means nothing to me.
I have had two kids and one them has started school since Beasley left, what the hell are we waiting on? Hasn't Durant's jersey been retired for like 4 years now?
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0 should have gone in the rough ridin' rafters on his Sr. night.
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0 should have gone in the rough ridin' rafters on his Sr. night.
yep
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0 should have gone in the rough ridin' rafters on his Sr. night.
God I would have sobbed myself to dehydration. :bawl:
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Doesnt make me angry, but ya it's dumb to have not happened
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Jake lives in Europe all winter and has since he graduated. It's not so much waiting for a certain number of years to pass as it is waiting until it's not a major inconvenience for the players we're honoring.
Jersey retirements on senior day take away from the honor IMO. When Jake finally does get #0 raised up he'll have an entire weekend to celebrate it without having to worry about playing a game. He can come in on Friday for a banquet in his honor, sit courtside, hang out with all of the other greats who came back, etc. That will mean a lot more to him than getting 15 minutes before or after the game...
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I'd rather have other things up in the rafters, but i'll enjoy when these go up there too.
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:dubious:
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The waiting bs that sports people feel they have to do may be the most ridiculous thing that is ingrained in our sports culture. I don't understand why sports people think things like jersey retirements and hall of fame enshrinement need so much time. Can people not recognize greatness while they are watching it? I feel like the greatness of these players are diminished over time. When they put Dick Knotsman's number up there, I didn't know who in the hell that was, and frankly many people who enjoyed him were dead. I mean I see his numbers and can recognize he was a great rebounder but other than that, his number whatever it is, means nothing to me.
I have had two kids and one them has started school since Beasley left, what the hell are we waiting on? Hasn't Durant's jersey been retired for like 4 years now?
Durant won the Naismith award. I'm pretty sure that if Beasley had won not gotten screwed over, his jersey would be retired by now. Also, I agree with you so no need to start an argument.
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0 should have gone in the rough ridin' rafters on his Sr. night.
God I would have sobbed myself to dehydration. :bawl:
Pretty ridic in there as it was.
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The only good thing about them not retiring Jake's on sr night is that someone would have made Sprads happen this year too based on his place in overall stat lists.
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The waiting bs that sports people feel they have to do may be the most ridiculous thing that is ingrained in our sports culture. I don't understand why sports people think things like jersey retirements and hall of fame enshrinement need so much time. Can people not recognize greatness while they are watching it? I feel like the greatness of these players are diminished over time. When they put Dick Knotsman's number up there, I didn't know who in the hell that was, and frankly many people who enjoyed him were dead. I mean I see his numbers and can recognize he was a great rebounder but other than that, his number whatever it is, means nothing to me.
I have had two kids and one them has started school since Beasley left, what the hell are we waiting on? Hasn't Durant's jersey been retired for like 4 years now?
Durant won the Naismith award. I'm pretty sure that if Beasley had won not gotten screwed over, his jersey would be retired by now. Also, I agree with you so no need to start an argument.
Didn't we come up with some stupid rule that you have to graduate or play 4 years or some BS? I remember thinking that Beasley would never be up there because of that bogus rule. It is a shame he isn't; 26 & 12 should get you up there. Especially with 3 or 4 40 point games.
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I thought that asinine rule was for the football ROH
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I have always thought you should wait a while for a jersey retirement, but its been enough time. #0 #30
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I thought that asinine rule was for the football ROH
I'm pretty sure the AD's rule applies here too. Everyone up there has graduated.
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Then it's going to take a grassroots campaign to get Beaz up there.
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Yeah they'll never put Mike up there. Stupid. Maybe Pullen someday.
If they do, hopefully we'll start using elite level cloth banners instead of this tarp bullcrap
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I don't see anyway Jake doesn't get up there.
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Pro tip: It's Spradling.
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Frank should throw all our guys' jerseys up here.
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And ICT should throw more up here.
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I talked to Frank Martin about it once. He said he didn't want Beasley's there until Steve Henson's was there. True story.
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I talked to Frank Martin about it once. He said he didn't want Beasley's there until Steve Henson's was there. True story.
did you slap him in his ugly stupid face?
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Pro tip: It's Spradling.
warm up the sink special orders, bramlage maintenance guy
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Let's all burn it down until the jerseys are up there where they belong!
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I talked to Frank Martin about it once. He said he didn't want Beasley's there until Steve Henson's was there. True story.
Doesn't matter. Beasley is never going to happen. Like it or not, which I do not, I can say with 100% confidence it will not happen.
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well, good thing Frank has no say in the matter
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well, good thing Frank has no say in the matter
But the people who do aren't going to do it.
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I talked to Frank Martin about it once. He said he didn't want Beasley's there until Steve Henson's was there. True story.
Doesn't matter. Beasley is never going to happen. Like it or not, which I do not, I can say with 100% confidence it will not happen.
He just said that because he thought you were a regular tuck and that's what you wanted to hear. Frank didn't give two shits about Steve Henson he was just being smart.
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I talked to Frank Martin about it once. He said he didn't want Beasley's there until Steve Henson's was there. True story.
Doesn't matter. Beasley is never going to happen. Like it or not, which I do not, I can say with 100% confidence it will not happen.
He just said that because he thought you were a regular tuck and that's what you wanted to hear. Frank didn't give two shits about Steve Henson he was just being smart.
My info doesn't come from Frank. I was saying it doesn't matter if Frank is here, if Henson goes up, Mike never will and I am 100% confident in my statement.
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I talked to Frank Martin about it once. He said he didn't want Beasley's there until Steve Henson's was there. True story.
Doesn't matter. Beasley is never going to happen. Like it or not, which I do not, I can say with 100% confidence it will not happen.
He just said that because he thought you were a regular tuck and that's what you wanted to hear. Frank didn't give two shits about Steve Henson he was just being smart.
My info doesn't come from Frank. I was saying it doesn't matter if Frank is here, if Henson goes up, Mike never will and I am 100% confident in my statement.
I was actually addressing stevesie, i dunno why i quoted both you guys
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never speak in absolutes
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well, good thing Frank has no say in the matter
But the people who do aren't going to do it.
Someone down the line will, he was too good not to.
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winters will do it after he graduates
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never speak in absolutes
Well, I will say Sprads will never be up there and he shouldn't be. HM All Big 12 won't do it.
Beasley and Pullen should be up as soon as possible.
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rough ridin' scottwildcat knows with 1000% confidence you guys
Case Closed!
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art goes up or nobody goes up.
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I didn't realize there were people who actually thought Beasley could happen. Pullen should without question and will.
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I didn't realize there were people who actually thought Beasley could happen.
I don't think anyone deep down thinks Beasley ever will happen.
The debate on should is a different story. But 0 chance it actually will happen.
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I didn't realize there were people who actually thought Beasley could happen.
I don't think anyone deep down thinks Beasley ever will happen.
The debate on should is a different story. But 0 chance it actually will happen.
The students that you know who intern for the AD won't be there forever.
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never speak in absolutes
never say never :nono:
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crap I just said never. :facepalm:
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I didn't realize there were people who actually thought Beasley could happen.
I don't think anyone deep down thinks Beasley ever will happen.
The debate on should is a different story. But 0 chance it actually will happen.
The students that you know who intern for the AD won't be there forever.
How is that relevant? Don't you mean JC won't be there forever? Those interns are just relaying insidery info.
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0 should have gone in the rough ridin' rafters on his Sr. night.
YES you guys certainly need something in the rafters over at the Bram . Oh wait you have and elite 8 banner sorry... who else in the country hangs Elite * banners anyway??
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0 should have gone in the rough ridin' rafters on his Sr. night.
YES you guys certainly need something in the rafters over at the Bram . Oh wait you have and elite 8 banner sorry... who else in the country hangs Elite * banners anyway??
It's just a hobby bro.
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Elite *
oh fantastic
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I talked to Frank Martin about it once. He said he didn't want Beasley's there until Steve Henson's was there. True story.
I agree with this. Not because Henson was better than Beasley, but because he played 25 years ago and deserved to be up there a long time ago. They should go up there one at a time from now on instead of 2 or 3 at a time...
Rodney also belongs up there...eventually.
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rodney does not rough ridin' deserve it, and I really don't think Henson does, either. NO ONE deserves it before Beasley, except Pullen. And that's iffy.
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rodney does not rough ridin' deserve it, and I really don't think Henson does, either. NO ONE deserves it before Beasley, except Pullen. And that's iffy.
pfftt
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rodney does not rough ridin' deserve it
is there a way to hang a .gif from the rafters?
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rodney does not rough ridin' deserve it
is there a way to hang a .gif from the rafters?
What are your criteria for a player to "deserve it"?
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well, you have to have a better career than Steve Henson, that's for sure (Rodney didn't). IMO having the greatest season in KSU history or greatest career in KSU history should be an automatic qualifier to me but what do I know.
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well, you have to have a better career than Steve Henson, that's for sure (Rodney didn't). IMO having the greatest season in KSU history or greatest career in KSU history should be an automatic qualifier to me but what do I know.
That's fair. Last I checked Bob Boozer's jersey is up there... :gocho:
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well, you have to have a better career than Steve Henson, that's for sure (Rodney didn't). IMO having the greatest season in KSU history or greatest career in KSU history should be an automatic qualifier to me but what do I know.
That's fair. Last I checked Bob Boozer's jersey is up there... :gocho:
He was first team All-American twice. How about if you're an All-American your name should be in the rafters?
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i am very disappointed with beasley's nba performance. it hurts, i wish he was mediocre at k-state and great in the nba.
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i am very disappointed with beasley's nba performance. it hurts, i wish he was mediocre at k-state and great in the nba.
Would prob get his jersey up then.
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well, you have to have a better career than Steve Henson, that's for sure (Rodney didn't). IMO having the greatest season in KSU history or greatest career in KSU history should be an automatic qualifier to me but what do I know.
That's fair. Last I checked Bob Boozer's jersey is up there... :gocho:
He was first team All-American twice. How about if you're an All-American your name should be in the rafters?
Everyone up there has graduated and was either a conference PoY or consensus AA.
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Give Beasley an honorary degree, boom problem solved.
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BA in mushing
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BA in mushing
with a minor in press conference comedy
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Maybe he'll come back (or do online KSU courses) and get his actual degree. Ro did.
:dunno:
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Maybe he'll come back (or do online KSU courses) and get his actual degree. Ro did.
:dunno:
it all makes sense now. it's all a ploy to squeeze that last bit of tuition out of these guys
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having a degree from a school is the stupidest of qualifiers. especially in basketball.
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0 should have gone in the rough ridin' rafters on his Sr. night.
YES you guys certainly need something in the rafters over at the Bram . Oh wait you have and elite 8 banner sorry... who else in the country hangs Elite * banners anyway??
rough ridin' message board better jesus christ
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If I was a rich retired basketball player, I would absolutely get my degree. Hell, I'd get a Masters too. Maybe Beas will, maybe he won't.
(I do think his number should be retired even if he doesn't.)
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having a degree from a school is the stupidest of qualifiers. especially in basketball.
Completely agree.
Iowa State is the same way. Marcus Fizer, one of their greatest players of all-time, won't get his jersey retired because he left after his junior year.
:sdeek:
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How many jerseys sold should be a factor.
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How many jerseys sold should be a factor.
Certainly. Beasley was wildly popular, loved manhattan, loves ksu, helped turn around the whole program, said hilarious things in the media, helped make ksu basketball entertaining again, was adorable, was cool, was the best recruit we ever signed and will ever sign... who cares what people think hang a banner and make it huge
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If I was a rich retired basketball player, I would absolutely get my degree. Hell, I'd get a Masters too. Maybe Beas will, maybe he won't.
(I do think his number should be retired even if he doesn't.)
What? Why? That makes so sense if you're already rich. Degrees on their own don't mean crap. I have 3 of them and I am using 0 of them in my career. If you want to blow money why wouldn't you just take the money you would have spent on a meaningless degree and just give a high school kid or an undergrad a scholarship so they can have a shot at getting rich themselves? That certainly would be more fulfilling than spending money on a piece of paper that, at that point in your life, has the same value as 1000 shares of Montgomery Ward stock.
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If I was a rich retired basketball player, I would absolutely get my degree. Hell, I'd get a Masters too. Maybe Beas will, maybe he won't.
(I do think his number should be retired even if he doesn't.)
What? Why? That makes so sense if you're already rich. Degrees on their own don't mean crap. I have 3 of them and I am using 0 of them in my career. If you want to blow money why wouldn't you just take the money you would have spent on a meaningless degree and just give a high school kid or an undergrad a scholarship so they can have a shot at getting rich themselves? That certainly would be more fulfilling than spending money on a piece of paper that, at that point in your life, has the same value as 1000 shares of Montgomery Ward stock.
I'd buy a giant rough ridin' billboard outside my college basketball arena that shows me and all the other basketball studs (as recognized by gE) have our jerseys retired. The view from the parking lot would be amazing.
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If I was a rich retired basketball player, I would absolutely get my degree. Hell, I'd get a Masters too. Maybe Beas will, maybe he won't.
(I do think his number should be retired even if he doesn't.)
What? Why? That makes so sense if you're already rich. Degrees on their own don't mean crap. I have 3 of them and I am using 0 of them in my career. If you want to blow money why wouldn't you just take the money you would have spent on a meaningless degree and just give a high school kid or an undergrad a scholarship so they can have a shot at getting rich themselves? That certainly would be more fulfilling than spending money on a piece of paper that, at that point in your life, has the same value as 1000 shares of Montgomery Ward stock.
I enjoy learning, that would be my reason.
But it would help to understand how the world works. Plus it would improve my employability for the rest of my lenghty, post-baller life, if I want to do something other than sell insurance or cars. Even if I end up selling insurance or cars, or going into coaching (somewhere that doesn't require a degree) -- or moving to a beach in Mexico -- it still improves your quality of life to have your mental horizons widened by taking classes.
And beyond that, let's say I'm "retired" at 28: wouldn't you think going back to college then as a former basketball star would be a blast? I do.
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And beyond that, let's say I'm "retired" at 28: wouldn't you think going back to college then as a former basketball star would be a blast? I do.
No. creepy. I couldn't imagine wanting to constantly be around thousands of 18-22 year olds as a rich 28 year old.
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I agree that MIR would be just as smart without the education.
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UT announced they were retiring KD's jersey 6 years ago.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3495788
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Maybe Durant was taking 60 hours a semester?
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Just a thought, but would Pullen come back for his Jersey retirement if Weber is still the coach? Does having his jersey retired bring more joy to his heart than the hatred for Weber? I say yes for his love of the universit...
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I don't think he hates oscar at all. Just thinks he sucks.
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having a degree from a school is the stupidest of qualifiers. especially in basketball.
Agree. If you're not good enough to leave early you're probably not good enough to have your jersey hung.
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I don't think he hates oscar at all. Just thinks he sucks.
I don't think Jake hates anyone. He's too good a person for that.
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Supercool is also on the cover of our dvd celebrating our programs history, but you know...
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What if we get some gE's on staff at the bram and then during a game they unveil the jerseys from the rafters. Might need a little help like someone also slipping the PA guy a sheet to read when we do this.
Really I'm just an idea guy, you guys make this plan work! Would be epic to see Currie's face when Beaz and Pullens jersey's hang from the rafters.
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I don't think he hates oscar at all. Just thinks he sucks.
I don't think Jake hates anyone. He's too good a person for that.
I'm pretty sure he hates sunnycat....
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I don't think he hates oscar at all. Just thinks he sucks.
I don't think Jake hates anyone. He's too good a person for that.
I'm pretty sure he hates doesn't give a single crap about sunnycat....
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Surprised this thread made it that long without that happening. :rolleyes:
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I don't think he hates oscar at all. Just thinks he sucks.
I don't think Jake hates anyone. He's too good a person for that.
known racists Spencer and Kevin Keitzman?
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I don't think he hates oscar at all. Just thinks he sucks.
I don't think Jake hates anyone. He's too good a person for that.
known racists Spencer and Kevin Keitzman?
he has no idea who either of those people are
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Pullen will be in rafters. There is a minimum 5-year waiting period now, and #0 will go up at hat time. 100%.
Beasley I'd say is 50-50. If I had to guess, I'd say it happens. Also from what I'm hearing he is planning on coming back to K-State in the Fall, not sure if for FB or MBB game.
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My guess with Beasley is that it's only a matter of time before we have enough non-dumbasses in the AD to make it happen.
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Do we actually have influential boosters blocking beaz?
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Jake can't happen soon enough. I'm going to party rock if Beasley ever happens.
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we should make each person who we are considering putting in the rafters an assistant coach for a season or two and see how they treat their alma mater before we make such a longstanding commitment to them such as hanging their jersey in our rafters
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Pullen will be in rafters. There is a minimum 5-year waiting period now, and #0 will go up at hat time. 100%.
Beasley I'd say is 50-50. If I had to guess, I'd say it happens. Also from what I'm hearing he is planning on coming back to K-State in the Fall, not sure if for FB or MBB game.
MBB for his jersey retirement!!!!!!!! :ksu:
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There is a minimum 5-year waiting period now
This is all Shalee's fault, isn't it?
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we should make each person who we are considering putting in the rafters an assistant coach for a season or two and see how they treat their alma mater before we make such a longstanding commitment to them such as hanging their jersey in our rafters
That might be the best idea I've ever read.
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Pullen will be in rafters. There is a minimum 5-year waiting period now, and #0 will go up at hat time. 100%.
:Woohoo: