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Title: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: steve dave on April 17, 2014, 03:34:58 PM
makes me rage  :curse:
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: TownieCat on April 17, 2014, 03:37:06 PM
makes me rage  :curse:

Me too, but they both seem to be pretty busy from November-February right now...  :dunno:
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: meow meow on April 17, 2014, 03:40:18 PM
Such a pickle
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: MakeItRain on April 17, 2014, 03:52:37 PM
The waiting bs that sports people feel they have to do may be the most ridiculous thing that is ingrained in our sports culture. I don't understand why sports people think things like jersey retirements and hall of fame enshrinement need so much time. Can people not recognize greatness while they are watching it? I feel like the greatness of these players are diminished over time. When they put Dick Knotsman's number up there, I didn't know who in the hell that was, and frankly many people who enjoyed him were dead. I mean I see his numbers and can recognize he was a great rebounder but other than that, his number whatever it is, means nothing to me.

I have had two kids and one them has started school since Beasley left, what the hell are we waiting on? Hasn't Durant's jersey been retired for like 4 years now?
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Gooch on April 17, 2014, 03:55:11 PM
0 should have gone in the rough ridin' rafters on his Sr. night.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: MakeItRain on April 17, 2014, 03:56:16 PM
0 should have gone in the rough ridin' rafters on his Sr. night.

yep
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 17, 2014, 03:58:03 PM
0 should have gone in the rough ridin' rafters on his Sr. night.

God I would have sobbed myself to dehydration.  :bawl:
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: star seed 7 on April 17, 2014, 03:58:53 PM
Doesnt make me angry, but ya it's dumb to have not happened
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: TownieCat on April 17, 2014, 04:02:17 PM
Jake lives in Europe all winter and has since he graduated. It's not so much waiting for a certain number of years to pass as it is waiting until it's not a major inconvenience for the players we're honoring.

Jersey retirements on senior day take away from the honor IMO. When Jake finally does get #0 raised up he'll have an entire weekend to celebrate it without having to worry about playing a game. He can come in on Friday for a banquet in his honor, sit courtside, hang out with all of the other greats who came back, etc. That will mean a lot more to him than getting 15 minutes before or after the game...
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 17, 2014, 04:03:05 PM
I'd rather have other things up in the rafters, but i'll enjoy when these go up there too.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 17, 2014, 04:04:38 PM
 :dubious:
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: lopakman on April 17, 2014, 04:11:50 PM
The waiting bs that sports people feel they have to do may be the most ridiculous thing that is ingrained in our sports culture. I don't understand why sports people think things like jersey retirements and hall of fame enshrinement need so much time. Can people not recognize greatness while they are watching it? I feel like the greatness of these players are diminished over time. When they put Dick Knotsman's number up there, I didn't know who in the hell that was, and frankly many people who enjoyed him were dead. I mean I see his numbers and can recognize he was a great rebounder but other than that, his number whatever it is, means nothing to me.

I have had two kids and one them has started school since Beasley left, what the hell are we waiting on? Hasn't Durant's jersey been retired for like 4 years now?

Durant won the Naismith award.  I'm pretty sure that if Beasley had won not gotten screwed over, his jersey would be retired by now.  Also, I agree with you so no need to start an argument.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: CNS on April 17, 2014, 04:18:23 PM
0 should have gone in the rough ridin' rafters on his Sr. night.

God I would have sobbed myself to dehydration.  :bawl:

Pretty ridic in there as it was. 
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: CNS on April 17, 2014, 04:19:36 PM
The only good thing about them not retiring Jake's on sr night is that someone would have made Sprads happen this year too based on his place in overall stat lists.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: catz on April 17, 2014, 04:30:00 PM
The waiting bs that sports people feel they have to do may be the most ridiculous thing that is ingrained in our sports culture. I don't understand why sports people think things like jersey retirements and hall of fame enshrinement need so much time. Can people not recognize greatness while they are watching it? I feel like the greatness of these players are diminished over time. When they put Dick Knotsman's number up there, I didn't know who in the hell that was, and frankly many people who enjoyed him were dead. I mean I see his numbers and can recognize he was a great rebounder but other than that, his number whatever it is, means nothing to me.

I have had two kids and one them has started school since Beasley left, what the hell are we waiting on? Hasn't Durant's jersey been retired for like 4 years now?

Durant won the Naismith award.  I'm pretty sure that if Beasley had won not gotten screwed over, his jersey would be retired by now.  Also, I agree with you so no need to start an argument.

Didn't we come up with some stupid rule that you have to graduate or play 4 years or some BS?  I remember thinking that Beasley would never be up there because of that bogus rule.  It is a shame he isn't; 26 & 12 should get you up there.  Especially with 3 or 4 40 point games.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 17, 2014, 04:40:08 PM
I thought that asinine rule was for the football ROH
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: The Big Train on April 17, 2014, 04:47:14 PM
I have always thought you should wait a while for a jersey retirement, but its been enough time.  #0 #30
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: TownieCat on April 17, 2014, 04:52:44 PM
I thought that asinine rule was for the football ROH

I'm pretty sure the AD's rule applies here too. Everyone up there has graduated.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 17, 2014, 04:54:31 PM
Then it's going to take a grassroots campaign to get Beaz up there.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Benja on April 17, 2014, 04:58:57 PM
Yeah they'll never put Mike up there. Stupid. Maybe Pullen someday.

If they do, hopefully we'll start using elite level cloth banners instead of this tarp bullcrap
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: CNS on April 17, 2014, 05:14:05 PM
I don't see anyway Jake doesn't get up there. 
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: asava on April 17, 2014, 05:24:38 PM
Pro tip: It's Spradling.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Trim on April 17, 2014, 05:33:51 PM
Frank should throw all our guys' jerseys up here.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage2.stadiumjourney.com%2Fimages%2Fstadiums%2F651_End_Zone_View.jpg&hash=404ecef2b17fb0850438df1448c18ca83be14d5f)

And ICT should throw more up here.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlVpGpsCYAAoyIP.jpg)
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 17, 2014, 06:49:16 PM
I talked to Frank Martin about it once. He said he didn't want Beasley's there until Steve Henson's was there. True story.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2014, 06:51:00 PM
I talked to Frank Martin about it once. He said he didn't want Beasley's there until Steve Henson's was there. True story.

did you slap him in his ugly stupid face?
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Tobias on April 17, 2014, 06:51:02 PM
Pro tip: It's Spradling.

warm up the sink special orders, bramlage maintenance guy
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: chum1 on April 17, 2014, 07:11:32 PM
Let's all burn it down until the jerseys are up there where they belong!
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: scottwildcat on April 17, 2014, 07:27:27 PM

I talked to Frank Martin about it once. He said he didn't want Beasley's there until Steve Henson's was there. True story.

Doesn't matter. Beasley is never going to happen. Like it or not, which I do not, I can say with 100% confidence it will not happen.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: steve dave on April 17, 2014, 07:29:18 PM
well, good thing Frank has no say in the matter
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: scottwildcat on April 17, 2014, 07:31:24 PM

well, good thing Frank has no say in the matter

But the people who do aren't going to do it.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Benja on April 17, 2014, 07:32:07 PM

I talked to Frank Martin about it once. He said he didn't want Beasley's there until Steve Henson's was there. True story.

Doesn't matter. Beasley is never going to happen. Like it or not, which I do not, I can say with 100% confidence it will not happen.

He just said that because he thought you were a regular tuck and that's what you wanted to hear. Frank didn't give two shits about Steve Henson he was just being smart.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: scottwildcat on April 17, 2014, 07:59:21 PM


I talked to Frank Martin about it once. He said he didn't want Beasley's there until Steve Henson's was there. True story.

Doesn't matter. Beasley is never going to happen. Like it or not, which I do not, I can say with 100% confidence it will not happen.

He just said that because he thought you were a regular tuck and that's what you wanted to hear. Frank didn't give two shits about Steve Henson he was just being smart.

My info doesn't come from Frank. I was saying it doesn't matter if Frank is here, if Henson goes up, Mike never will and I am 100% confident in my statement.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Benja on April 17, 2014, 08:12:34 PM


I talked to Frank Martin about it once. He said he didn't want Beasley's there until Steve Henson's was there. True story.

Doesn't matter. Beasley is never going to happen. Like it or not, which I do not, I can say with 100% confidence it will not happen.

He just said that because he thought you were a regular tuck and that's what you wanted to hear. Frank didn't give two shits about Steve Henson he was just being smart.

My info doesn't come from Frank. I was saying it doesn't matter if Frank is here, if Henson goes up, Mike never will and I am 100% confident in my statement.

I was actually addressing stevesie, i dunno why i quoted both you guys
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2014, 08:13:46 PM
never speak in absolutes
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: wetwillie on April 17, 2014, 08:22:37 PM

well, good thing Frank has no say in the matter

But the people who do aren't going to do it.

Someone down the line will, he was too good not to.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Tobias on April 17, 2014, 08:24:06 PM
winters will do it after he graduates
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: kso_FAN on April 17, 2014, 09:07:02 PM
never speak in absolutes

Well, I will say Sprads will never be up there and he shouldn't be.  HM All Big 12 won't do it.

Beasley and Pullen should be up as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: meow meow on April 17, 2014, 09:46:13 PM
rough ridin' scottwildcat knows with 1000% confidence you guys

Case Closed!
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: sys on April 17, 2014, 11:53:09 PM
art goes up or nobody goes up.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: sunny_cat on April 17, 2014, 11:54:55 PM
I didn't realize there were people who actually thought Beasley could happen. Pullen should without question and will.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: scottwildcat on April 17, 2014, 11:57:32 PM

I didn't realize there were people who actually thought Beasley could happen.

I don't think anyone deep down thinks Beasley ever will happen.

The debate on should is a different story. But 0 chance it actually will happen.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: EMAWmeister on April 18, 2014, 12:28:48 AM

I didn't realize there were people who actually thought Beasley could happen.

I don't think anyone deep down thinks Beasley ever will happen.

The debate on should is a different story. But 0 chance it actually will happen.

The students that you know who intern for the AD won't be there forever.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 18, 2014, 08:50:24 AM
never speak in absolutes

never say never  :nono:
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 18, 2014, 08:50:43 AM
crap I just said never.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: sunny_cat on April 18, 2014, 09:01:37 AM

I didn't realize there were people who actually thought Beasley could happen.

I don't think anyone deep down thinks Beasley ever will happen.

The debate on should is a different story. But 0 chance it actually will happen.

The students that you know who intern for the AD won't be there forever.

How is that relevant? Don't you mean JC won't be there forever? Those interns are just relaying insidery info.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: rollingplains on April 18, 2014, 09:04:16 AM
0 should have gone in the rough ridin' rafters on his Sr. night.

YES you guys certainly need something in the rafters over at the Bram . Oh wait you have and elite 8 banner  sorry... who else in the country hangs Elite * banners anyway??
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 18, 2014, 09:13:12 AM
0 should have gone in the rough ridin' rafters on his Sr. night.

YES you guys certainly need something in the rafters over at the Bram . Oh wait you have and elite 8 banner  sorry... who else in the country hangs Elite * banners anyway??

It's just a hobby bro. 
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: 0.42 on April 18, 2014, 01:25:35 PM
Elite *

oh fantastic
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: TownieCat on April 18, 2014, 03:09:12 PM
I talked to Frank Martin about it once. He said he didn't want Beasley's there until Steve Henson's was there. True story.

I agree with this. Not because Henson was better than Beasley, but because he played 25 years ago and deserved to be up there a long time ago. They should go up there one at a time from now on instead of 2 or 3 at a time...

Rodney also belongs up there...eventually.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: michigancat on April 18, 2014, 03:17:56 PM
rodney does not rough ridin' deserve it, and I really don't think Henson does, either. NO ONE deserves it before Beasley, except Pullen. And that's iffy.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: sunny_cat on April 18, 2014, 03:18:36 PM
rodney does not rough ridin' deserve it, and I really don't think Henson does, either. NO ONE deserves it before Beasley, except Pullen. And that's iffy.

pfftt
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: mocat on April 18, 2014, 03:27:14 PM
rodney does not rough ridin' deserve it

is there a way to hang a .gif from the rafters?
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: TownieCat on April 18, 2014, 03:32:03 PM
rodney does not rough ridin' deserve it

is there a way to hang a .gif from the rafters?

What are your criteria for a player to "deserve it"?
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: michigancat on April 18, 2014, 03:43:23 PM
well, you have to have a better career than Steve Henson, that's for sure (Rodney didn't). IMO having the greatest season in KSU history or greatest career in KSU history should be an automatic qualifier to me but what do I know.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: TownieCat on April 18, 2014, 03:58:27 PM
well, you have to have a better career than Steve Henson, that's for sure (Rodney didn't). IMO having the greatest season in KSU history or greatest career in KSU history should be an automatic qualifier to me but what do I know.

That's fair. Last I checked Bob Boozer's jersey is up there...  :gocho:
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 18, 2014, 05:15:21 PM
well, you have to have a better career than Steve Henson, that's for sure (Rodney didn't). IMO having the greatest season in KSU history or greatest career in KSU history should be an automatic qualifier to me but what do I know.

That's fair. Last I checked Bob Boozer's jersey is up there...  :gocho:

He was first team All-American twice. How about if you're an All-American your name should be in the rafters?
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: kim carnes on April 19, 2014, 12:13:13 AM
i am very disappointed with beasley's nba performance.  it hurts, i wish he was mediocre at k-state and great in the nba.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: CNS on April 19, 2014, 09:16:42 AM
i am very disappointed with beasley's nba performance.  it hurts, i wish he was mediocre at k-state and great in the nba.

Would prob get his jersey up then.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: TownieCat on April 19, 2014, 02:28:16 PM
well, you have to have a better career than Steve Henson, that's for sure (Rodney didn't). IMO having the greatest season in KSU history or greatest career in KSU history should be an automatic qualifier to me but what do I know.

That's fair. Last I checked Bob Boozer's jersey is up there...  :gocho:

He was first team All-American twice. How about if you're an All-American your name should be in the rafters?

Everyone up there has graduated and was either a conference PoY or consensus AA.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: wetwillie on April 19, 2014, 02:31:40 PM
Give Beasley an honorary degree, boom problem solved.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: star seed 7 on April 19, 2014, 02:34:22 PM
BA in mushing
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: wetwillie on April 19, 2014, 02:35:39 PM
BA in mushing
with a minor in press conference comedy
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 21, 2014, 12:33:29 PM
Maybe he'll come back (or do online KSU courses) and get his actual degree.  Ro did.

 :dunno:
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Tobias on April 21, 2014, 12:34:59 PM
Maybe he'll come back (or do online KSU courses) and get his actual degree.  Ro did.

 :dunno:

it all makes sense now.  it's all a ploy to squeeze that last bit of tuition out of these guys
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: steve dave on April 21, 2014, 12:39:44 PM
having a degree from a school is the stupidest of qualifiers. especially in basketball.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Benja on April 21, 2014, 12:42:33 PM
0 should have gone in the rough ridin' rafters on his Sr. night.

YES you guys certainly need something in the rafters over at the Bram . Oh wait you have and elite 8 banner  sorry... who else in the country hangs Elite * banners anyway??

rough ridin' message board better jesus christ
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 21, 2014, 12:43:21 PM
If I was a rich retired basketball player, I would absolutely get my degree.  Hell, I'd get a Masters too.  Maybe Beas will, maybe he won't.

(I do think his number should be retired even if he doesn't.)
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: OregonSmock on April 21, 2014, 01:02:04 PM
having a degree from a school is the stupidest of qualifiers. especially in basketball.


Completely agree. 

Iowa State is the same way.  Marcus Fizer, one of their greatest players of all-time, won't get his jersey retired because he left after his junior year.


 :sdeek:

Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Trim on April 21, 2014, 01:19:34 PM
How many jerseys sold should be a factor.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Benja on April 21, 2014, 01:26:37 PM
How many jerseys sold should be a factor.

Certainly. Beasley was wildly popular, loved manhattan, loves ksu, helped turn around the whole program, said hilarious things in the media, helped make ksu basketball entertaining again, was adorable, was cool, was the best recruit we ever signed and will ever sign... who cares what people think hang a banner and make it huge
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: MakeItRain on April 21, 2014, 03:25:26 PM
If I was a rich retired basketball player, I would absolutely get my degree.  Hell, I'd get a Masters too.  Maybe Beas will, maybe he won't.

(I do think his number should be retired even if he doesn't.)

What? Why? That makes so sense if you're already rich. Degrees on their own don't mean crap. I have 3 of them and I am using 0 of them in my career. If you want to blow money why wouldn't you just take the money you would have spent on a meaningless degree and just give a high school kid or an undergrad a scholarship so they can have a shot at getting rich themselves? That certainly would be more fulfilling than spending money on a piece of paper that, at that point in your life, has the same value as 1000 shares of Montgomery Ward stock.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Trim on April 21, 2014, 03:38:22 PM
If I was a rich retired basketball player, I would absolutely get my degree.  Hell, I'd get a Masters too.  Maybe Beas will, maybe he won't.

(I do think his number should be retired even if he doesn't.)

What? Why? That makes so sense if you're already rich. Degrees on their own don't mean crap. I have 3 of them and I am using 0 of them in my career. If you want to blow money why wouldn't you just take the money you would have spent on a meaningless degree and just give a high school kid or an undergrad a scholarship so they can have a shot at getting rich themselves? That certainly would be more fulfilling than spending money on a piece of paper that, at that point in your life, has the same value as 1000 shares of Montgomery Ward stock.

I'd buy a giant rough ridin' billboard outside my college basketball arena that shows me and all the other basketball studs (as recognized by gE) have our jerseys retired.  The view from the parking lot would be amazing.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 21, 2014, 03:43:40 PM
If I was a rich retired basketball player, I would absolutely get my degree.  Hell, I'd get a Masters too.  Maybe Beas will, maybe he won't.

(I do think his number should be retired even if he doesn't.)

What? Why? That makes so sense if you're already rich. Degrees on their own don't mean crap. I have 3 of them and I am using 0 of them in my career. If you want to blow money why wouldn't you just take the money you would have spent on a meaningless degree and just give a high school kid or an undergrad a scholarship so they can have a shot at getting rich themselves? That certainly would be more fulfilling than spending money on a piece of paper that, at that point in your life, has the same value as 1000 shares of Montgomery Ward stock.

I enjoy learning, that would be my reason.

But it would help to understand how the world works.  Plus it would improve my employability for the rest of my lenghty, post-baller life, if I want to do something other than sell insurance or cars.  Even if I end up selling insurance or cars, or going into coaching (somewhere that doesn't require a degree) -- or moving to a beach in Mexico -- it still improves your quality of life to have your mental horizons widened by taking classes.

And beyond that, let's say I'm "retired" at 28: wouldn't you think going back to college then as a former basketball star would be a blast?  I do.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: MakeItRain on April 21, 2014, 04:23:02 PM
And beyond that, let's say I'm "retired" at 28: wouldn't you think going back to college then as a former basketball star would be a blast?  I do.

No. creepy. I couldn't imagine wanting to constantly be around thousands of 18-22 year olds as a rich 28 year old.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: chum1 on April 21, 2014, 04:38:16 PM
I agree that MIR would be just as smart without the education.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: michigancat on April 21, 2014, 05:36:52 PM
UT announced they were retiring KD's jersey 6 years ago.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3495788
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: meow meow on April 21, 2014, 08:21:18 PM
Maybe Durant was taking 60 hours a semester?
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Stat_Cat on April 21, 2014, 08:37:07 PM
Just a thought, but would Pullen come back for his Jersey retirement if Weber is still the coach?  Does having his jersey retired bring more joy to his heart than the hatred for Weber?  I say yes for his love of the universit...
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: steve dave on April 21, 2014, 08:55:04 PM
I don't think he hates oscar at all. Just thinks he sucks.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: _33 on April 21, 2014, 09:14:18 PM
having a degree from a school is the stupidest of qualifiers. especially in basketball.

Agree.  If you're not good enough to leave early you're probably not good enough to have your jersey hung.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: bones129 on April 22, 2014, 12:11:31 AM
I don't think he hates oscar at all. Just thinks he sucks.

I don't think Jake hates anyone. He's too good a person for that.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Benja on April 22, 2014, 11:03:08 AM
Supercool is also on the cover of our dvd celebrating our programs history, but you know...


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Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: catz on April 22, 2014, 04:05:19 PM
What if we get some gE's on staff at the bram and then during a game they unveil the jerseys from the rafters.  Might need a little help like someone also slipping the PA guy a sheet to read when we do this. 

Really I'm just an idea guy, you guys make this plan work!  Would be epic to see Currie's face when Beaz and Pullens jersey's hang from the rafters.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Hurricane Cat on April 22, 2014, 10:19:32 PM
I don't think he hates oscar at all. Just thinks he sucks.

I don't think Jake hates anyone. He's too good a person for that.

I'm pretty sure he hates sunnycat....
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: ksupamplemousse on April 22, 2014, 10:26:17 PM
I don't think he hates oscar at all. Just thinks he sucks.

I don't think Jake hates anyone. He's too good a person for that.

I'm pretty sure he hates doesn't give a single crap about sunnycat....
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: sunny_cat on April 22, 2014, 10:39:57 PM
Surprised this thread made it that long without that happening.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: MakeItRain on April 23, 2014, 12:07:12 PM
I don't think he hates oscar at all. Just thinks he sucks.

I don't think Jake hates anyone. He's too good a person for that.

known racists Spencer and Kevin Keitzman?
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: steve dave on April 23, 2014, 01:04:32 PM
I don't think he hates oscar at all. Just thinks he sucks.

I don't think Jake hates anyone. He's too good a person for that.

known racists Spencer and Kevin Keitzman?

he has no idea who either of those people are
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: captaincrap on April 23, 2014, 01:22:30 PM
Pullen will be in rafters. There is a minimum 5-year waiting period now, and #0 will go up at hat time. 100%.

Beasley I'd say is 50-50. If I had to guess, I'd say it happens. Also from what I'm hearing he is planning on coming back to K-State in the Fall, not sure if for FB or MBB game.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 23, 2014, 01:26:10 PM
My guess with Beasley is that it's only a matter of time before we have enough non-dumbasses in the AD to make it happen.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: CNS on April 23, 2014, 01:31:10 PM
Do we actually have influential boosters blocking beaz? 

 :bang:
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: sunny_cat on April 23, 2014, 01:39:43 PM
Jake can't happen soon enough. I'm going to party rock if Beasley ever happens.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: pissclams on April 23, 2014, 01:43:14 PM
we should make each person who we are considering putting in the rafters an assistant coach for a season or two and see how they treat their alma mater before we make such a longstanding commitment to them such as hanging their jersey in our rafters
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: catz on April 23, 2014, 02:59:37 PM
Pullen will be in rafters. There is a minimum 5-year waiting period now, and #0 will go up at hat time. 100%.

Beasley I'd say is 50-50. If I had to guess, I'd say it happens. Also from what I'm hearing he is planning on coming back to K-State in the Fall, not sure if for FB or MBB game.

MBB for his jersey retirement!!!!!!!!   :ksu:
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 25, 2014, 02:37:03 PM
There is a minimum 5-year waiting period now

This is all Shalee's fault, isn't it?

Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on April 25, 2014, 04:23:43 PM
we should make each person who we are considering putting in the rafters an assistant coach for a season or two and see how they treat their alma mater before we make such a longstanding commitment to them such as hanging their jersey in our rafters
That might be the best idea I've ever read.
Title: Re: Jacob Pullen And Michael Beasley Not Having Their Jerseys Retired
Post by: 0.42 on April 26, 2014, 03:32:06 PM
Pullen will be in rafters. There is a minimum 5-year waiting period now, and #0 will go up at hat time. 100%.
:Woohoo: