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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: lopakman on April 08, 2014, 12:47:57 PM
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We all know to be considered a blue blood you have to have at least four national championships. IMO there couldn't be a more deserving school than Uconn to join the club. So who will be the seventh member? Probably Louisville.
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yeah, sad cardinal is rolling under stud Pitino and has one of the best venues for college basketball
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Don't sleep on Arizona, Miller has them heading in the right direction
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Give the mayor a few more years and ISU will be in the hunt!!
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Give the mayor a few more years and ISU will be in the hunt!!
Move to the discussion of Big 12 or something. ISU is 4 titles away from BB status
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this is an interesting topic
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I rank schools by how well they have done during the life of the players they are recruiting.
UCONN just won their 4th title in the last 20 years. Players and their parents will be keenly aware of UCONN's success.
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I rank schools by how well they have done during the life of the players they are recruiting.
UCONN just won their 4th title in the last 20 years. Players and their parents will be keenly aware of UCONN's success.
15 years if we want to get technical. Even more impressive.
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Never understood why ku fans claim to be a blue blood when they only have 3 titles.
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seriously though, and i'm not saying this to get a rise out of ku fans, i would never do that (being serious), their lack of titles is concerning given their regular season success. even so, they're a really fine program and their fans should be proud of that.
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seriously though, and i'm not saying this to get a rise out of ku fans, i would never do that (being serious), their lack of titles is concerning given their regular season success. even so, they're a really fine program and their fans should be proud of that.
Agreed, especially considering the number of 1 and 2 seeds they have had
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seriously though, and i'm not saying this to get a rise out of ku fans, i would never do that (being serious), their lack of titles is concerning given their regular season success. even so, they're a really fine program and their fans should be proud of that.
Agreed, especially considering the number of 1 and 2 seeds they have had
Agreed. Being a 1 or 2 seed is a ton of fun. I am jealous of how often they get to enjoy that.
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seriously though, and i'm not saying this to get a rise out of ku fans, i would never do that (being serious), their lack of titles is concerning given their regular season success. even so, they're a really fine program and their fans should be proud of that.
Agreed, especially considering the number of 1 and 2 seeds they have had
Agreed. Being a 1 or 2 seed is a ton of fun. I am jealous of how often they get to enjoy that.
they don't enjoy it though :frown: curse of the phog
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I rank schools by how well they have done during the life of the players they are recruiting.
UCONN just won their 4th title in the last 20 years. Players and their parents will be keenly aware of UCONN's success.
That's just ridiculous.
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seriously though, and i'm not saying this to get a rise out of ku fans, i would never do that (being serious), their lack of titles is concerning given their regular season success. even so, they're a really fine program and their fans should be proud of that.
Agreed, especially considering the number of 1 and 2 seeds they have had
Agreed. Being a 1 or 2 seed is a ton of fun. I am jealous of how often they get to enjoy that.
Agreed. It would be fun to be a #1 or #2 seed nearly every year. It's too bad they can't capitalize on it more and transition from a top tier 2 program to a blue blood.
:frown:
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I rank schools by how well they have done during the life of the players they are recruiting.
UCONN just won their 4th title in the last 20 years. Players and their parents will be keenly aware of UCONN's success.
15 years if we want to get technical. Even more impressive.
unreal, us high schoolers have seen UCONN win 4 titles, Kentucky win 3, Duke 2, UNC 2, and Florida 2, in our short lifetime.. yet, my poor grandpa, a proud Ottawa U. grad and KU bball supporter, has only got to witness 2 titles from them in his 61 years of life.
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KU has eight Final Fours and two national titles in my 28 years of existence. It's been a rough stretch, no doubt.
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Probably speaks more to the strength of the Big 8 / Big 12 than anything. :frown:
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I thought this thread was for Bluebloods?
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sad, but lets get back on topic.
the obvious BB's are the following.. in no particular order, but kind of, ya know:
UCLA: 11 titles, 1 in the last 20 years
Kentucky: 8 titles, 3 in the last 20 years
UCONN: 4 titles, all in the last 15 years
Duke: 4 titles, all in the last 25 years
North Carolina: 5 titles, 3 in the last 21 years
you've got to look into these leftovers to see who can make a run to join, but it would take a lot of titles:
Indiana: 5 nattys, 0 in the last 25 years. One title gets them back in the convo, may take 2 to solidify.
Florida: 2 nattys, both in the last 10 years. 2 gets them in the convo, 3 to solidify.
Louisville: 3 nattys, 1 in the last 25 years. One title gets them in the convo, 2 would be rock solid.
Kansas: 3 nattys, 1 in the last 25 years. One title might get them in the convo, 2 and you have a decent argument.
Michigan St: 2 nattys, 1 in the last 15 years. 2 is nice, 3 puts them in the convo.
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What goEMAW really needs right now is another thread that passively aggressively tries to deny KU's blueblood status. That would be really funny and original, imo.
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KU has eight Final Fours and two national titles in my 28 years of existence. It's been a rough stretch, no doubt.
So close to getting over the hump, I think sooner than later it will happen.
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What goEMAW really needs right now is another thread that passively aggressively tries to deny KU's blueblood status. That would be really funny and original, imo.
How about one where you whine about the threads on a Kstate message board?
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I would argue that championships before the field expanded to 64 teams should be thrown out. Duke and UCONN each have 4, UNC and Kentucky each have 3. The bluest of the blue right there.
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What a long off season this is going to be for beems.
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i'm fascinated by man on man kisses. a dude can either do 'em or he can't. no middle ground here.
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KU has eight Final Fours and two national titles in my 28 years of existence. It's been a rough stretch, no doubt.
Oh man, I bet you partied your ass off back in 1988 when you were two years old. :party:
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:Take the Bait:
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Don't worry Beems, keep bagging 1 and 2 seeds and eventually you'll match blueblood status.
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UCLA: 11 titles, 1 in the last 20 years
Kentucky: 8 titles, 3 in the last 20 years
UCONN: 4 titles, all in the last 15 years
Duke: 4 titles, all in the last 25 years
North Carolina: 5 titles, 3 in the last 21 years
last night made me think of this thread. what a great night of basketball, a national audience getting to watch 2 of the 5 blue bloods dominate inferior opponents.
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Where is mich state?
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What a long off season this is going to be for beems.
I didn't mean it. I miss you. Come back. :frown:
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Where is mich state?
oops, i have them at 5th in the leftover pile.
UCLA: 11 titles, 1 in the last 20 years
Kentucky: 8 titles, 3 in the last 20 years
UCONN: 4 titles, all in the last 15 years
Duke: 4 titles, all in the last 25 years
North Carolina: 5 titles, 3 in the last 21 years
you've got to look into these leftovers to see who can make a run to join, but it would take a lot of titles:
Indiana: 5 nattys, 0 in the last 25 years. One title gets them back in the convo, may take 2 to solidify.
Florida: 2 nattys, both in the last 10 years. 2 gets them in the convo, 3 to solidify.
Louisville: 3 nattys, 1 in the last 25 years. One title gets them in the convo, 2 would be rock solid.
Kansas: 3 nattys, 1 in the last 25 years. One title might get them in the convo, 2 and you have a decent argument.
Michigan St: 2 nattys, 1 in the last 15 years. 2 is nice, 3 puts them in the convo.
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It's pretty amazing that UConn has twice put themselves at the pinnacle of the college basketball world by winning men's and women's natty's in the same year.
What is it? 14 combined b-ball natty's for UConn in the last 20 years or so?
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seriously though, and i'm not saying this to get a rise out of ku fans, i would never do that (being serious), their lack of titles is concerning given their regular season success. even so, they're a really fine program and their fans should be proud of that.
Good thing their fans don't care about national titles like blue blood schools do. Their regular season success keeps them happy and Bill Self's seat cold. Could you imagine if Bill was coaching Duke and had the same conference title:national title ratio?
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Blue bloods: the rich get richer.
UCLA: 11 titles, 1 in the last 20 years
Kentucky: 8 titles, 3 in the last 20 years
UCONN: 4 titles, all in the last 15 years
Duke: 5 titles, all in the last 25 years
North Carolina: 5 titles, 3 in the last 21 years
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Ku fans just need to count their lucky stars Memphis gave away the title in 2008. Otherwise Duke, Uconn UNC, and UK would have 15 titles combined since Their 88 title.
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https://twitter.com/ESPNCBB/status/585283243471151104
the ku fans replying to this tweet are extra salty because they don't understand that AAU & Helms titles don't count.
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What could be invalid about titles from the early 20s that were awarded in the early 40s by a committee of 1 person?
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What could be invalid about titles from the early 20s that were awarded in the early 40s by a committee of 1 person?
:lol:
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Man, when I think of gold standard in college basketball, I think of Duke.
How many times has K reinvented himself and what he does? Three? He's won with veteran kids that stay all four years, he won with a hybrid of both, and now he's one-and-done'ing it like he's Calipari.
I mean, man, if I'm a five-star stud, and I'm looking at Duke vs. Kansas, there's no question about who I play for. K can get you titles and a fat NBA contract. Probably a preferable spot on that National team, too.
Oh, and if you stay four years, you have a degree. From Duke.
It's just not fair.
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What could be invalid about titles from the early 20s that were awarded in the early 40s by a committee of 1 person?
:lol:
Beautiful
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What could be invalid about titles from the early 20s that were awarded in the early 40s by a committee of 1 person?
:lol:
Beautiful
I mean, I'm pretty sure Bill Schroeder did the absolute best possible research that he could in the early 40s, but I'd also guess the amount of college basketball information from nearly 20 years earlier was pretty slim. For example, he might have missed the fact that the 1922 Missouri team finished with a better record than KU (16-1 compared to 16-2) and that KU and MU split the 2 game series that season. Perhaps that KC Athletic Club team (the other team that beat KU that season) was a real juggernaut, so that 2nd loss really didn't count toward determining that national champion? :dunno:
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What could be invalid about titles from the early 20s that were awarded in the early 40s by a committee of 1 person?
:lol:
Beautiful
Coach K is just BITB.
UCONN doesn't get talked about enough. They have been amazing in the torn-a-ment.
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What could be invalid about titles from the early 20s that were awarded in the early 40s by a committee of 1 person?
:lol:
Beautiful
I can hear the sarcasm, but let's be fair to that one guy. He did watch all of the video available from every ncaa basketball game throughout the first 30 years of the 1900's.
Gonna win 'em all!
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With last nights game, and it being 2017: When you think blue bloods, who comes to mind?
UCLA: 11 titles
Kentucky: 8 titles
North Carolina: 6 titles
Duke: 5 titles
It's UK, UNC, Duke, and UCLA for me. A few schools (UCONN has 4 championships in like the last 17 years and if Indiana could have some more recent success to match their old school 5 titles) I could be convinced they're blue. Then there are some schools (Louisville and KU) that could maybe join if they would win on the big stage a few times in the near future.
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With last nights game, and it being 2017: When you think blue bloods, who comes to mind?
UCLA: 11 titles
Kentucky: 8 titles
North Carolina: 6 titles
Duke: 5 titles
It's UK, UNC, Duke, and UCLA for me. A few schools (UCONN has 4 championships in like the last 17 years and if Indiana could have some more recent success to match their old school 5 titles) I could be convinced they're blue. Then there are some schools (Louisville and KU) that could maybe join if they would win on the big stage a few times in the near future.
I can't argue with your facts.
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you have to have more than 1 title in the past 40 years to be a blue blood, sorry UCLA
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you have to have more than 1 title in the past 40 years to be a blue blood, sorry UCLA
I'm listening.
Along those lines, it's pretty incredible to think the kids that are being recruited these days have seen UCONN win 3 or 4 tourneys.
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I think it's those 4. I UCLA's sheer number of titles keeps then in the talks.
I agree with rhe rest of your assertions.
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you have to have more than 1 title in the past 40 years to be a blue blood, sorry UCLA
They had to hire New Mexico's coach FFS, their status is definitely up for board review.
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/31/world/super-blue-blood-moon-2018-intl/index.html
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/31/world/super-blue-blood-moon-2018-intl/index.html
lol :lol: