Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 07, 2014, 03:58:24 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 07, 2014, 03:59:51 PM
Post by: puniraptor on April 07, 2014, 04:00:52 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 07, 2014, 04:01:13 PM
Her character is taking a dark turn, and I like it.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 07, 2014, 04:01:58 PM
can this also be a thread for people who haven't read the book?
Yes but don't open this thread if you haven't watched the latest episode.
Post by: puniraptor on April 07, 2014, 04:02:12 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 07, 2014, 04:02:31 PM
also this episode totally kicked ass
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 07, 2014, 04:04:16 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 07, 2014, 04:05:21 PM
I liked it. It was just like she did it in the book.She killed the Tickler in the book (who is now already dead in the show, killed by Jaqen) not Raff the Sweetling, who should still be alive at that point in the books. Also, she goes all postal in the books and isn't so cool and collected as in the show.
Still, that scene was really satisfying.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 07, 2014, 04:06:41 PM
I'm on S1E3 so no spoilers please
GTFOOH
Post by: star seed 7 on April 07, 2014, 04:06:53 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 07, 2014, 04:08:15 PM
I liked it. It was just like she did it in the book.She killed the Tickler in the book (who is now already dead in the show, killed by Jaqen) not Raff the Sweetling, who should still be alive at that point in the books. Also, she goes all postal in the books and isn't so cool and collected as in the show.
Still, that scene was really satisfying.
The guy she killed in the latest episode is Polliver.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 07, 2014, 04:09:04 PM
I liked it. It was just like she did it in the book.She killed the Tickler in the book (who is now already dead in the show, killed by Jakken) not Raff the Sweetling, who should still be alive at that point in the books. Also, she goes all postal in the books and isn't so cool and collected as in the show.
Still, that scene was really satisfying.
Yeah, I had actually completely forgotten how that scene went down in the books. That was about 3000 pages ago. It was perfect, regardless. The show does a lot of things better than the books did them.
Post by: puniraptor on April 07, 2014, 04:09:23 PM
hey, people that are confused with the show thread, take your nonsense to the book thread
yes, @MODS!!!!!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 07, 2014, 04:10:24 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 07, 2014, 04:11:27 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 07, 2014, 04:11:46 PM
I'm not sure which Daario I prefer. Last season's guy really didn't do much, but it seems kind of weird to just pull a switch like that with two actors who look nothing at all alike.
The original one was hotter.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 07, 2014, 04:12:35 PM
It's too bad they had to recast Daario Naharis though. . .took me a minute to realize that was supposed to be the same guy.
Post by: mocat on April 07, 2014, 04:17:01 PM
I'm not sure which Daario I prefer. Last season's guy really didn't do much, but it seems kind of weird to just pull a switch like that with two actors who look nothing at all alike.
The original one was hotter.
i didn't think you could ever see his lower back in the show :confused:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 07, 2014, 04:17:14 PM
reading is for losers
also this episode totally kicked ass
Reading is fundamental, seven.
Post by: OK_Cat on April 07, 2014, 04:19:49 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 07, 2014, 04:20:01 PM
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 07, 2014, 04:22:07 PM
got has been pretty bad about recasting people. the mountain has had like 3 different dudes, beric (?) has been 2 dudes. they are going to have to recast bran pretty soon, seems like he's almost taller than hodor now.
But if he never stands. . .you won't notice?
Post by: star seed 7 on April 07, 2014, 04:23:01 PM
Post by: mocat on April 07, 2014, 04:23:34 PM
um, you notice
why are you even awake right now
Post by: star seed 7 on April 07, 2014, 04:26:42 PM
um, you notice
why are you even awake right now
i'm not wasting my 10,000th post on your silly vampire theory
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 07, 2014, 04:27:54 PM
The rolls got merged, I guess. ITBs Polliver steals needle but Raff kills Lommy, so they just merged the two (which actually makes that scene work better in the show) Polliver does die in the inn but via Sandor. That distinction wasn't the change I was most surprised at, I was hoping to see postal Arya. The way the show did it was still really good, though.I liked it. It was just like she did it in the book.She killed the Tickler in the book (who is now already dead in the show, killed by Jaqen) not Raff the Sweetling, who should still be alive at that point in the books. Also, she goes all postal in the books and isn't so cool and collected as in the show.
Still, that scene was really satisfying.
The guy she killed in the latest episode is Polliver.
The Dario recast sucks. They should have gone full bore and recast him to fit the books description if they were going to bother (oiled forked blue beard)
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 07, 2014, 04:28:46 PM
Didn't you?um, you notice
why are you even awake right now
i'm not wasting my 10,000th post on your silly vampire theory
Post by: SabiNation on April 07, 2014, 04:34:10 PM
Post by: Cire on April 07, 2014, 04:36:03 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on April 07, 2014, 04:36:12 PM
I'm not sure which Daario I prefer. Last season's guy really didn't do much, but it seems kind of weird to just pull a switch like that with two actors who look nothing at all alike.
The original one was hotter.
Umm, yeah.
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:love:
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:Yuck:
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 07, 2014, 04:36:17 PM
um, you notice
why are you even awake right now
:lol:
Post by: Mr Bread on April 07, 2014, 04:36:53 PM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 07, 2014, 04:54:04 PM
Post by: puniraptor on April 07, 2014, 04:55:11 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on April 07, 2014, 05:38:51 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on April 07, 2014, 06:04:17 PM
Seems like it would be a drag to have read the books. I have no idea what to expect each scene and it's supes amazeballscan confirm that reading books is a drag
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Post by: Benja on April 07, 2014, 06:29:45 PM
Post by: catzacker on April 07, 2014, 09:06:38 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 07, 2014, 09:46:18 PM
there's a book threadThe rolls got merged, I guess. ITBs Polliver steals needle but Raff kills Lommy, so they just merged the two (which actually makes that scene work better in the show) Polliver does die in the inn but via Sandor. That distinction wasn't the change I was most surprised at, I was hoping to see postal Arya. The way the show did it was still really good, though.I liked it. It was just like she did it in the book.She killed the Tickler in the book (who is now already dead in the show, killed by Jaqen) not Raff the Sweetling, who should still be alive at that point in the books. Also, she goes all postal in the books and isn't so cool and collected as in the show.
Still, that scene was really satisfying.
The guy she killed in the latest episode is Polliver.
The Dario recast sucks. They should have gone full bore and recast him to fit the books description if they were going to bother (oiled forked blue beard)
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 07, 2014, 10:44:26 PM
Naaaa, they didn't post ITT ITB.there's a book threadThe rolls got merged, I guess. ITBs Polliver steals needle but Raff kills Lommy, so they just merged the two (which actually makes that scene work better in the show) Polliver does die in the inn but via Sandor. That distinction wasn't the change I was most surprised at, I was hoping to see postal Arya. The way the show did it was still really good, though.I liked it. It was just like she did it in the book.She killed the Tickler in the book (who is now already dead in the show, killed by Jaqen) not Raff the Sweetling, who should still be alive at that point in the books. Also, she goes all postal in the books and isn't so cool and collected as in the show.
Still, that scene was really satisfying.
The guy she killed in the latest episode is Polliver.
The Dario recast sucks. They should have gone full bore and recast him to fit the books description if they were going to bother (oiled forked blue beard)
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 08, 2014, 02:22:43 PM
Speaking of characters that haven't changed actors but kind of look like they have, Jaime Lanister. The dude looks he's a different actor each season, which is kind of cool considering his character changes each season. He's becoming one of my favorites. In fact, the Lanisters as a family are kind of dominating this show from an awesome characters perspective.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 08, 2014, 02:27:20 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 08, 2014, 02:30:45 PM
Someone I know thought that Jaime Lannister had been recast...Doesn't he look the same now as he did before he got captured and grew that beard? Maybe a little older looking now and missing a hand.
He seems a little less blonde or something.
Post by: Institutional Control on April 08, 2014, 02:31:36 PM
Someone I know thought that Jaime Lannister had been recast...Doesn't he look the same now as he did before he got captured and grew that beard? Maybe a little older looking now and missing a hand.
Can you imagine how hard it's going to be to get future roles now that he's missing his right hand?
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 08, 2014, 02:34:43 PM
Someone I know thought that Jaime Lannister had been recast...Doesn't he look the same now as he did before he got captured and grew that beard? Maybe a little older looking now and missing a hand.
He seems a little less blonde or something.
I think the biggest difference was be seasons 1 and 2, for some reason.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 08, 2014, 02:34:58 PM
Someone I know thought that Jaime Lannister had been recast...Doesn't he look the same now as he did before he got captured and grew that beard? Maybe a little older looking now and missing a hand.
Can you imagine how hard it's going to be to get future roles now that he's missing his right hand?
a true method actor
Post by: star seed 7 on April 08, 2014, 03:54:23 PM
Post by: Benja on April 08, 2014, 08:19:49 PM
Post by: Demo158 on April 09, 2014, 01:06:59 AM
http://youtu.be/sJCBRepFi2g:D
Post by: Benja on April 13, 2014, 07:14:26 PM
Post by: puniraptor on April 13, 2014, 09:00:42 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on April 13, 2014, 09:09:34 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 13, 2014, 10:16:37 PM
Post by: Jackstack99EMAW on April 13, 2014, 10:17:56 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on April 13, 2014, 10:19:58 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2014, 10:20:17 PM
Post by: Cire on April 13, 2014, 10:37:32 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2014, 10:42:39 PM
Post by: Benja on April 13, 2014, 10:55:09 PM
Post by: joda on April 13, 2014, 10:57:22 PM
I just hope Tyrion turns out ok. :frown: otherwise :Woot:
Hope this isn't considered a spoiler, but Tyrion's storyline is fantastic from here on out.
I've been waiting for this episode for ages. Seeing it happen on the screen was immensely satisfying. I literally was praying all episode this was the one.
Edited for dumbasses who read this thread before watching the episode.
Post by: Benja on April 13, 2014, 10:59:32 PM
Post by: Benja on April 13, 2014, 11:00:20 PM
Post by: joda on April 13, 2014, 11:08:57 PM
But that's ok. People should know not to read this thread before watching.
Fixed
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 13, 2014, 11:10:24 PM
Post by: Jackstack99EMAW on April 13, 2014, 11:17:22 PM
I thought it already was. This show is great.I just hope Tyrion turns out ok. :frown: otherwise :Woot:
Hope this isn't considered a spoiler, but Tyrion's storyline is fantastic from here on out.
I've been waiting for this episode for ages. Seeing it happen on the screen was immensely satisfying. I literally was praying all episode this was the one.
Edited for dumbasses who read this thread before watching the episode.
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 13, 2014, 11:19:06 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 13, 2014, 11:49:25 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 13, 2014, 11:50:20 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 14, 2014, 12:50:30 AM
Post by: Demo158 on April 14, 2014, 01:03:09 AM
I was quite pleased with this episode.Thought it would happen later, but I'm rough ridin' ecstatic. By far the best ending of any episode of this series!!!
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 14, 2014, 01:17:35 AM
I was quite pleased with this episode.Thought it would happen later, but I'm rough ridin' ecstatic. By far the best ending of any episode of this series!!!
They've stayed true to the books the best they can.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 14, 2014, 08:21:47 AM
I was disappointed they didn't bring Ser Ilyn back into the show, to spar with Jaime, a man with no tongue keeps the best secrets.
That's how the books handled it, actually. The actor that played Sir Ilyn died, though, so the change is understandable.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 14, 2014, 08:23:52 AM
Post by: joda on April 14, 2014, 08:24:09 AM
Wow. Did not see that coming. I was sort of hoping his end would be much slower and more gruesome, but oh well. Not having read the books, I'm not sure how this works. Now that the old king's purported male heirs are dead, is Stanis next by lawful succession? That'd be a funny turn of events. Something tells me Tywin's not gonna let that happen.
They haven't really showed him much, but Tommen is still alive and well (and yes, it is a recast). But no more male heirs would make for an interesting storyline.
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 14, 2014, 08:25:54 AM
Did not know that about the actor playing him, I suppose that makes me less disappointed with the change up. I thought it was just ceaseless meddling by the writers.I was disappointed they didn't bring Ser Ilyn back into the show, to spar with Jaime, a man with no tongue keeps the best secrets.
That's how the books handled it, actually. The actor that played Sir Ilyn died, though, so the change is understandable.
Ramsay didn't have any female members of his group of cronies, who she may be supplanting.
Post by: joda on April 14, 2014, 08:26:19 AM
Did Ramsey Snow have a girl hunting partner in the books? I don't remember her.
No, I thought that was a really weird inclusion, especially considering how Ramsey normally treats women. I'm also trying to figure out how him and Ser Amory are old acquaintances.
Post by: mocat on April 14, 2014, 08:27:25 AM
Post by: joda on April 14, 2014, 08:31:29 AM
in the books i feel like the guy who cut off Jaime's hand was more memorable
Vargo Hoat orders it in the book, but he isn't in the show at all that I've noticed. Ser Amory Lorch seems to have taken over his storyline but now he's best buds with the Boltons so I'm not sure where they're going with him.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 14, 2014, 08:34:26 AM
in the books i feel like the guy who cut off Jaime's hand was more memorable
Vargo Hoat orders it in the book, but he isn't in the show at all that I've noticed. Ser Amory Lorch seems to have taken over his storyline but now he's best buds with the Boltons so I'm not sure where they're going with him.
The guy who cut off Jaime's hand in the show and who was greeted by Ramsey is Locke. He is sworn to House Bolton, so I assume Ramsey just knows him because he is sworn to Ramsey's father, Roose Bolton.
Post by: joda on April 14, 2014, 08:42:56 AM
in the books i feel like the guy who cut off Jaime's hand was more memorable
Vargo Hoat orders it in the book, but he isn't in the show at all that I've noticed. Ser Amory Lorch seems to have taken over his storyline but now he's best buds with the Boltons so I'm not sure where they're going with him.
The guy who cut off Jaime's hand in the show and who was greeted by Ramsey is Locke. He is sworn to House Bolton, so I assume Ramsey just knows him because he is sworn to Ramsey's father, Roose Bolton.
Ah, good catch, guess I need to rewatch last season. I was assuming it was Lorch who is sworn to the Lannisters
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 14, 2014, 08:45:30 AM
Post by: joda on April 14, 2014, 08:55:22 AM
Lorch was killed by Jaqen H'ghar at Harrenhal.
Yea I remember that now, the similarity between Locke and Lorch had me confused. Seems weird that they'd change Asha to Yara to avoid confusion but create a character and make him that similar to another character.
Post by: mocat on April 14, 2014, 08:57:00 AM
Post by: joda on April 14, 2014, 09:12:41 AM
yeah that is funny. also Yara sounds more like Arya than Asha anyway
I think Asha was changed because it was to close to Osha, but yes, it sounds much like Arya now
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 14, 2014, 09:26:46 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on April 14, 2014, 09:44:07 AM
Post by: joda on April 14, 2014, 09:49:02 AM
So, Sansa did it, right?
Without knowing how far the show will delve into it I'm not going to say much, but no she didn't.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 14, 2014, 09:50:43 AM
So, Sansa did it, right?
The great thing is that there are so many people who could have done it.
Post by: puniraptor on April 14, 2014, 09:52:26 AM
Without knowing how far the show will delve into it I'm not going to say much, but no she didn't.
STOP IT YOU BOOK SPOILER GOONS GO TO THE BOOK GOON THREAD
Post by: joda on April 14, 2014, 09:57:02 AM
Without knowing how far the show will delve into it I'm not going to say much, but no she didn't.
STOP IT YOU BOOK SPOILER GOONS GO TO THE BOOK GOON THREAD
It doesn't take much critical thinking to figure out Sansa didn't do it.
Post by: puniraptor on April 14, 2014, 09:58:22 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 14, 2014, 09:59:59 AM
but i would be speculating based on what I have seen in the show and you are speculating based off 200000 pages of text i haven't read.
Oh, come on now. It's only about 6000 pages.
Post by: Cire on April 14, 2014, 10:30:57 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 14, 2014, 10:42:24 AM
Joff's wedding was WAAAAAAAAAAY better in the book. was really disappointed with how it looked in the show.
You're talking about the fact that they left out the pigs, aren't you?
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 14, 2014, 10:45:07 AM
Joff's wedding was WAAAAAAAAAAY better in the book. was really disappointed with how it looked in the show.
What did they leave out that would have made it better?
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 14, 2014, 10:45:53 AM
The only way that episode could have been any better would have been some dragons. But wow, so awesome.
In Bran's vision thingy you saw the shadow of a dragon. . so there was that.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 14, 2014, 10:47:51 AM
The only way that episode could have been any better would have been some dragons. But wow, so awesome.
In Bran's vision thingy you saw the shadow of a dragon. . so there was that.
Was that King's Landing that the dragon shadow was over? I think it was since the very next shot was of King's Landing before the wedding...but I am never sure on these shots because maybe other cities look similar from above?
Post by: joda on April 14, 2014, 10:52:56 AM
but i would be speculating based on what I have seen in the show and you are speculating based off 200000 pages of text i haven't read.
There's been nothing in the show that leads you to believe that Sansa has the ability, let alone the balls to pull something like that off. Honestly, in the book Sansa seemed a more likely suspect than she did in the show. Just watching the show I'd have been better able to guess who was responsible than I was while reading. I thought the show almost gave it away.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 14, 2014, 10:54:23 AM
The only way that episode could have been any better would have been some dragons. But wow, so awesome.
In Bran's vision thingy you saw the shadow of a dragon. . so there was that.
Was that King's Landing that the dragon shadow was over? I think it was since the very next shot was of King's Landing before the wedding...but I am never sure on these shots because maybe other cities look similar from above?
I took it to be King's Landing, but that little bit of story line was very confusing to me. Did they travel all the way north so he could touch a tree and now they are heading back south? I'm sure they will it explain it better eventually. . .but that scene was frustratingly vague.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 14, 2014, 10:57:09 AM
The only way that episode could have been any better would have been some dragons. But wow, so awesome.
In Bran's vision thingy you saw the shadow of a dragon. . so there was that.
Was that King's Landing that the dragon shadow was over? I think it was since the very next shot was of King's Landing before the wedding...but I am never sure on these shots because maybe other cities look similar from above?
I took it to be King's Landing, but that little bit of story line was very confusing to me. Did they travel all the way north so he could touch a tree and now they are heading back south? I'm sure they will it explain it better eventually. . .but that scene was frustratingly vague.
There was a voice in the vision that said "North"...so I took that as their next direction.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 14, 2014, 10:58:07 AM
but i would be speculating based on what I have seen in the show and you are speculating based off 200000 pages of text i haven't read.
There's been nothing in the show that leads you to believe that Sansa has the ability, let alone the balls to pull something like that off. Honestly, in the book Sansa seemed a more likely suspect than she did in the show. Just watching the show I'd have been better able to guess who was responsible than I was while reading. I thought the show almost gave it away.
I'm watching the show with my girlfriend and neither of us have read the books. Our main speculation was any of the Tyrells or the prince from Dorne.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 14, 2014, 10:59:11 AM
The only way that episode could have been any better would have been some dragons. But wow, so awesome.
In Bran's vision thingy you saw the shadow of a dragon. . so there was that.
Was that King's Landing that the dragon shadow was over? I think it was since the very next shot was of King's Landing before the wedding...but I am never sure on these shots because maybe other cities look similar from above?
I took it to be King's Landing, but that little bit of story line was very confusing to me. Did they travel all the way north so he could touch a tree and now they are heading back south? I'm sure they will it explain it better eventually. . .but that scene was frustratingly vague.
There was a voice in the vision that said "North"...so I took that as their next direction.
Definitely missed that. I just want Bran to control a dragon at some point. That would make it all worth it. Haha
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 14, 2014, 11:40:10 AM
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 14, 2014, 11:42:36 AM
The show left out a lot of the background information that makes all of the speculation about who poisoned joff so fun, like Oberyn is well known for his proclivity for poisoning people. What I saw in this episode supports my theory for who is responsible for it in the books.
THE SUSPENSE!!
Post by: Benja on April 14, 2014, 12:03:48 PM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 14, 2014, 12:45:47 PM
As far as poison deaths go, I thought they made it about as gruesome as they could. He looked extremely blue and dead at the end, and his eyes were googily. Pretty good.
I really liked the blood/puss combo all over his nose/face.
Post by: Benja on April 14, 2014, 01:20:21 PM
As far as poison deaths go, I thought they made it about as gruesome as they could. He looked extremely blue and dead at the end, and his eyes were googily. Pretty good.
I really liked the blood/puss combo all over his nose/face.
Yeah it was pretty gross/good.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 14, 2014, 02:23:07 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 14, 2014, 02:42:39 PM
Post by: mocat on April 14, 2014, 02:46:56 PM
Interesting that a bunch of book nerds can't read the difference between a show thread and a book thread.
you're so grumpy when you wake up
Post by: Institutional Control on April 14, 2014, 03:30:12 PM
Post by: Benja on April 14, 2014, 03:54:36 PM
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 14, 2014, 04:33:42 PM
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Haha nice. Is it wierd that it was a giant pie and not a cake to anyone else? I mean,. . .come on right?
Post by: star seed 7 on April 14, 2014, 04:34:13 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on April 14, 2014, 04:46:43 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 14, 2014, 04:56:28 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on April 14, 2014, 06:03:28 PM
Didn't Marjorie refuse to eat the pie? I can't understand why she would kill him, but then again there could totally be some devious reason.
Maybe so that she can be married to a younger FP she can control instead of an abusive sociopath who likely would have made her life miserable? Seems like an excellent reason as reasons go.
Post by: 0.42 on April 14, 2014, 07:41:46 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 14, 2014, 07:44:09 PM
Team Marjorie's mom did itOlenna is her grandmother, fwiw
Post by: 0.42 on April 14, 2014, 07:44:34 PM
Post by: FranklyFrankYou on April 14, 2014, 07:47:45 PM
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 14, 2014, 07:48:29 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 14, 2014, 07:48:41 PM
edit: as in, Margaery is the correct spelling.
Post by: Benja on April 14, 2014, 07:58:03 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 14, 2014, 08:02:07 PM
Somebody explain how the procession works. With J dead, who's now in charge? Is it Marjorie? Or some male relative of Jof? Low royalty iq over here.Though the Iron throne is technically a monarchy, it is also patriarchal in the sense that a male heir always comes before a female heir. Since Margaery's marriage went unconsummated and ultimately didn't produce any heirs, she wouldn't be included in the line of succession (had she a child, male or female, she'd be queen regent) So the next in line by the customs of Westeros would be Tommen.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 14, 2014, 08:04:35 PM
Somebody explain how the procession works. With J dead, who's now in charge? Is it Marjorie? Or some male relative of Jof? Low royalty iq over here.
Joffrey has a little brother. I forgot about him too. It goes to him.
Jaime was Joffreys real dad right? And is he also father of the younger son?
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 14, 2014, 08:07:18 PM
Somebody explain how the procession works. With J dead, who's now in charge? Is it Marjorie? Or some male relative of Jof? Low royalty iq over here.
Joffrey has a little brother. I forgot about him too. It goes to him.
Jaime was Joffreys real dad right? And is he also father of the younger son?
:bang: :bang: :bang:
Post by: star seed 7 on April 14, 2014, 08:09:32 PM
Somebody explain how the procession works. With J dead, who's now in charge? Is it Marjorie? Or some male relative of Jof? Low royalty iq over here.
Joffrey has a little brother. I forgot about him too. It goes to him.
Jaime was Joffreys real dad right? And is he also father of the younger son?
:bang: :bang: :bang:
my word :blank:
Post by: puniraptor on April 14, 2014, 08:31:43 PM
Post by: puniraptor on April 14, 2014, 08:32:05 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 14, 2014, 08:43:53 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 14, 2014, 08:51:12 PM
Post by: WonderMeal on April 14, 2014, 08:55:10 PM
First, Tyrion has no motive. What does he gain if he poisons Joffrey? Sure he stops getting made fun of, but he doesn't really seem to mind all that much. Second, it doesn't look like he slips anything in--and he had several opportunities to do it before Joffrey dies.
Why I think the Tyrells smelt it/dealt it:
-Margaery gets super-excited about the pie. They set it up to seem like she was excited about the pie because it stopped the confrontation, but what if she was excited about the pie because she knew it was poisoned?
-If it is in fact that wine that is poisoned, it looks like she slips something into the wine glass when Joffrey hands it to her. (It's not clear enough to overturn the call on the field, but it sure looks like it to me.)
-Most important--Lady Olenna and Margaery both effectively use the "She Who Smelt It Dealt It" defense. Margaery is the one to point out that Joffrey is "choking." Lady Olenna immediately says, "Help him!" And then what do they both do? Turn their backs while Cersei and Jaime run to try and save the king. They smelt it because they dealt it.
Now, what's their motive? It's unclear--either Margaery is going to make an appeal to the people (who love her) that she is the real queen, or there is some financial motive (Iron Bank?) that I don't know about because there's no way I'm going to read 600,000 pages.
WonderMeal's Probably 100% Correct Power Rankings of Who Did It:
1) Lady Olenna and Margaery
2) The Dornish dude (too obv)
3) The drunk fool (not capable of pulling it off)
100) Tyrion
Last place) Sansa. (too incredibly boring)
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 14, 2014, 09:03:16 PM
i don't know why people won't just giveMarjorieMargaery a chance, shes basically been proven to be the superior queen regnant.
:curse:
Post by: FranklyFrankYou on April 14, 2014, 09:04:24 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 14, 2014, 09:05:27 PM
I had it right earlier :dunno:i don't know why people won't just giveMarjorieMargaery a chance, shes basically been proven to be the superior queen regnant.
:curse:
Post by: joda on April 14, 2014, 09:05:38 PM
Post by: FranklyFrankYou on April 14, 2014, 09:13:13 PM
Just re-watched the episode. How incredibly well acted was that scene at the Dreadfort with Roose, Ramsey, and Reek. Possibly one of the best acted scenes of the whole series IMO."Reek, Reek, it rhymes with weak"
Post by: Institutional Control on April 14, 2014, 09:19:21 PM
Read the goddamn books you rubesnerd alert!
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Post by: Asteriskhead on April 14, 2014, 09:29:17 PM
Read the goddamn books you rubesnerd alert!
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you say that like it's a bad thing, dumbass.
Post by: Institutional Control on April 14, 2014, 09:47:29 PM
Whoa. No need for name calling, jerk face.Read the goddamn books you rubesnerd alert!
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you say that like it's a bad thing, dumbass.
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Post by: FranklyFrankYou on April 14, 2014, 09:56:49 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 15, 2014, 07:41:31 AM
In the books, what happens with Arya and the hound is a far departure from the show. I think the book develops Arya much more effectively
color me surprised that a 5 book series spanning over 5,000 pages developed a character more effectively than a tv show did. this is some cold fusion type crap going on with this george rr martin guy. i bet he met with bill self the inventor to figure out a way to aptly develop ol' arya sans an hour long tv show.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 15, 2014, 08:24:59 AM
and also filled with pigeons
It was doves.
This practice is based on real history. Apparently it happened on an episode of The Tudors as well.
Post by: Cire on April 15, 2014, 08:40:27 AM
Post by: joda on April 15, 2014, 08:43:51 AM
Sansa picked up the cup he was drinking out of.
Joff also took a drink from the cup after Sansa picked it up but before breaking the pie. If it was Sansa that's when he'd have started chocking.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 15, 2014, 08:49:52 AM
Sansa picked up the cup he was drinking out of.
Joff also took a drink from the cup after Sansa picked it up but before breaking the pie. If it was Sansa that's when he'd have started chocking.
Some poisons have a delayed reaction. Maybe the poison caused his throat to swell up and that took a couple of minutes.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 15, 2014, 08:53:47 AM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/heres-exactly-how-the-biggest-jerk-in-all-of-game-of-thrones (http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/heres-exactly-how-the-biggest-jerk-in-all-of-game-of-thrones)
Post by: Institutional Control on April 15, 2014, 08:54:44 AM
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 15, 2014, 10:06:12 AM
Maybe it was Melisandre and she used witchcraft like she did with Renly.She did burn some leaches. If that doesn't choke a guy, I don't know what will.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 15, 2014, 10:21:09 AM
Lady Olenna
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/heres-exactly-how-the-biggest-jerk-in-all-of-game-of-thrones (http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/heres-exactly-how-the-biggest-jerk-in-all-of-game-of-thrones)
Wow - that's genius, but also pretty diabolical of the old bat to pin it on Sansa, but I guess that explains the Fool's terminator "come with me if you want to live" line.
It's also a bit of a stretch because Olenna couldn't have known that Sansa/Tyrian would hand Joff the goblet, but whatever. Still clever.
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 15, 2014, 10:23:54 AM
Lady Olenna
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/heres-exactly-how-the-biggest-jerk-in-all-of-game-of-thrones (http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/heres-exactly-how-the-biggest-jerk-in-all-of-game-of-thrones)
Wow - that's genius, but also pretty diabolical of the old bat to pin it on Sansa, but I guess that explains the Fool's terminator "come with me if you want to live" line.
It's also a bit of a stretch because Olenna couldn't have known that Sansa/Tyrian would hand Joff the goblet, but whatever. Still clever.
you should keep your stupidity in the pit.
Post by: Benja on April 15, 2014, 11:21:10 AM
In the books, what happens with Arya and the hound is a far departure from the show. I think the book develops Arya much more effectively
color me surprised that a 5 book series spanning over 5,000 pages developed a character more effectively than a tv show did.
:lol:
Post by: joda on April 15, 2014, 01:51:31 PM
Sansa picked up the cup he was drinking out of.
Joff also took a drink from the cup after Sansa picked it up but before breaking the pie. If it was Sansa that's when he'd have started chocking.
Some poisons have a delayed reaction. Maybe the poison caused his throat to swell up and that took a couple of minutes.
Even if that was the case, I still stand by my statement that Sansa had neither the ability or the balls to pull this off. Besides, do the "Sansa did it" folks think she just happened to be carrying around an extremely lethal poison on the off chance Joffrey's cup happened to roll under the table to her?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 15, 2014, 01:55:36 PM
Sansa picked up the cup he was drinking out of.
Joff also took a drink from the cup after Sansa picked it up but before breaking the pie. If it was Sansa that's when he'd have started chocking.
Some poisons have a delayed reaction. Maybe the poison caused his throat to swell up and that took a couple of minutes.
Even if that was the case, I still stand by my statement that Sansa had neither the ability or the balls to pull this off. Besides, do the "Sansa did it" folks think she just happened to be carrying around an extremely lethal poison on the off chance Joffrey's cup happened to roll under the table to her?
Maybe she would have found another reason to get access to the cup if that hadn't happened.
Post by: Benja on April 15, 2014, 02:09:01 PM
Post by: mocat on April 15, 2014, 02:11:02 PM
Post by: Benja on April 15, 2014, 02:11:28 PM
i don't understand what's going on here. are you guys asking the book readers to tell you what happened or are you just hypothesizing in front of a bunch of people who have read the books expecting them to not say anything?
latter
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 15, 2014, 02:11:56 PM
Maybe it was just peanut allergies or something.
There could have been peanut oil in the pie crust. I don't think they have EpiPens in Westeros.
Post by: joda on April 15, 2014, 02:13:16 PM
Sansa picked up the cup he was drinking out of.
Joff also took a drink from the cup after Sansa picked it up but before breaking the pie. If it was Sansa that's when he'd have started chocking.
Some poisons have a delayed reaction. Maybe the poison caused his throat to swell up and that took a couple of minutes.
Even if that was the case, I still stand by my statement that Sansa had neither the ability or the balls to pull this off. Besides, do the "Sansa did it" folks think she just happened to be carrying around an extremely lethal poison on the off chance Joffrey's cup happened to roll under the table to her?
Maybe she would have found another reason to get access to the cup if that hadn't happened.
She's practically in a daze. No way she thinks she can find a way to get to his cup. She's also terrified of Cersei at this point.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 15, 2014, 02:15:08 PM
Sansa picked up the cup he was drinking out of.
Joff also took a drink from the cup after Sansa picked it up but before breaking the pie. If it was Sansa that's when he'd have started chocking.
Some poisons have a delayed reaction. Maybe the poison caused his throat to swell up and that took a couple of minutes.
Even if that was the case, I still stand by my statement that Sansa had neither the ability or the balls to pull this off. Besides, do the "Sansa did it" folks think she just happened to be carrying around an extremely lethal poison on the off chance Joffrey's cup happened to roll under the table to her?
Maybe she would have found another reason to get access to the cup if that hadn't happened.
She's practically in a daze. No way she thinks she can find a way to get to his cup. She's also terrified of Cersei at this point.
She lies awake all night thinking about how her family died. That might drive a person to murder, especially when the person who had them murdered is rubbing it her face right in front of everyone in King's Landing.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 15, 2014, 02:16:09 PM
Post by: joda on April 15, 2014, 02:19:32 PM
Sansa picked up the cup he was drinking out of.
Joff also took a drink from the cup after Sansa picked it up but before breaking the pie. If it was Sansa that's when he'd have started chocking.
Some poisons have a delayed reaction. Maybe the poison caused his throat to swell up and that took a couple of minutes.
Even if that was the case, I still stand by my statement that Sansa had neither the ability or the balls to pull this off. Besides, do the "Sansa did it" folks think she just happened to be carrying around an extremely lethal poison on the off chance Joffrey's cup happened to roll under the table to her?
Maybe she would have found another reason to get access to the cup if that hadn't happened.
She's practically in a daze. No way she thinks she can find a way to get to his cup. She's also terrified of Cersei at this point.
She lies awake all night thinking about how her family died. That might drive a person to murder, especially when the person who had them murdered is rubbing it her face right in front of everyone in King's Landing.
Her mental state right now makes her more likely to murder by grabbing a knife and just going to town on someone than the cold calculation needed to pull off a poisoning like this.
Post by: Benja on April 15, 2014, 02:19:37 PM
Post by: joda on April 15, 2014, 02:23:18 PM
i don't understand what's going on here. are you guys asking the book readers to tell you what happened or are you just hypothesizing in front of a bunch of people who have read the books expecting them to not say anything?
I've read the books and know who's responsible in the books, but I watched the show assuming they could change it to anyone (wouldn't be the first or the last time the show changed who killed who). I thought it was painfully obvious who did it in the show but that might just be because I had an idea of what to look for.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 15, 2014, 03:38:31 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 15, 2014, 03:56:23 PM
They did give a big nod to the book readers that they would not be changing the story in that regard... what do you guys think about the speculative news articles trying to guess who did it? I guess I don't see the point in trying to guess something that is already public knowledge. Either the author of the article doesn't know and is just guessing or they do know and they are spoiling the surprise. Seems odd.i don't understand what's going on here. are you guys asking the book readers to tell you what happened or are you just hypothesizing in front of a bunch of people who have read the books expecting them to not say anything?
I've read the books and know who's responsible in the books, but I watched the show assuming they could change it to anyone (wouldn't be the first or the last time the show changed who killed who). I thought it was painfully obvious who did it in the show but that might just be because I had an idea of what to look for.
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2014, 04:05:59 PM
They did give a big nod to the book readers that they would not be changing the story in that regard... what do you guys think about the speculative news articles trying to guess who did it? I guess I don't see the point in trying to guess something that is already public knowledge. Either the author of the article doesn't know and is just guessing or they do know and they are spoiling the surprise. Seems odd.i don't understand what's going on here. are you guys asking the book readers to tell you what happened or are you just hypothesizing in front of a bunch of people who have read the books expecting them to not say anything?
I've read the books and know who's responsible in the books, but I watched the show assuming they could change it to anyone (wouldn't be the first or the last time the show changed who killed who). I thought it was painfully obvious who did it in the show but that might just be because I had an idea of what to look for.
yes, this is a very strange dynamic at play.
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 15, 2014, 04:06:37 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2014, 04:09:13 PM
Just finished season 3. I can't keep anyone straight. Sometimes they'll drop in on two guys having a conversation and I just have no clue who they are or what they're talking about bad. I just want these dragons to grow up and have that blonde chick take over everything already.
yeah, when you have that much detail, it forces the show to become cliff notes, as pissclams eloquently alluded to.
Post by: Benja on April 15, 2014, 04:28:04 PM
Just finished season 3. I can't keep anyone straight. Sometimes they'll drop in on two guys having a conversation and I just have no clue who they are or what they're talking about bad. I just want these dragons to grow up and have that blonde chick take over everything already.
Just think how awesome and more bigger and almost getting ready to fight stuff the dragons are gonna by like season 9.
Post by: SabiNation on April 15, 2014, 11:11:01 PM
Just finished season 3. I can't keep anyone straight. Sometimes they'll drop in on two guys having a conversation and I just have no clue who they are or what they're talking about bad. I just want these dragons to grow up and have that blonde chick take over everything already.
I can't explain it, but at some point the entire plot (character names included) just "clicked" for me. Not sure exactly when it was either but I think it was sometime in the second half of season three. Just fwiw
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 16, 2014, 08:07:32 AM
Also, I get was getting confused between Beric Dondarrion and Thoros for some reason - maybe the recasting of Beric was the issue.
Post by: Cire on April 16, 2014, 09:00:20 AM
Post by: puniraptor on April 16, 2014, 09:21:48 AM
I just gloss over the minor characters. If they are important you won't forget them.
if they are important, the pre ep recap will try to remind you who they are
Post by: HELLHAMMER on April 16, 2014, 09:34:52 AM
Post by: puniraptor on April 16, 2014, 09:38:09 AM
I tried watching a few episodes with Mrs. HH and couldn't do it. Even the tits couldn't keep me involved. I also hated Lord of the Rings but loved the original Conan the Barbarian. Guess I'm just old.
i love lord of the rings and also think that original conan the barbarian is mindblowingly awesome.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 16, 2014, 10:08:46 AM
I tried watching a few episodes with Mrs. HH and couldn't do it. Even the tits couldn't keep me involved. I also hated Lord of the Rings but loved the original Conan the Barbarian. Guess I'm just old.
GOT is a fantasy epic. . .but it's a little slower moving. It also generally is about moral dilemmas and struggling with real life issues. That tends to be less fun then "Good vs Evil" swashbuckling.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 16, 2014, 11:09:05 AM
I tried watching a few episodes with Mrs. HH and couldn't do it. Even the tits couldn't keep me involved. I also hated Lord of the Rings but loved the original Conan the Barbarian. Guess I'm just old.
HH:
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Post by: TownieCat on April 16, 2014, 08:04:31 PM
In the end I hope either Khaleesi or Arya win the Iron Throne trophy. I've been #TeamKhaleesi since season 1, but watching Arya become a cold blooded killer as she roams the countryside with the Hound has been a treat.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 16, 2014, 08:07:41 PM
Finally had a chance to get caught up today... I think the grandma did it. Also, I've been able to watch the entire series despite only learning about 10 names. I probably don't have the GoTIQ of some on here but I still have a pretty good grasp on what's going on.
In the end I hope either Khaleesi or Arya win the Iron Throne trophy. I've been #TeamKhaleesi since season 1, but watching Arya become a cold blooded killer as she roams the countryside with the Hound has been a treat.
Her name is Daenerys. :shakesfist: Kaleesi is her title. That's like saying "I hope Queen wins."
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 16, 2014, 08:10:59 PM
Post by: TownieCat on April 16, 2014, 08:11:37 PM
Finally had a chance to get caught up today... I think the grandma did it. Also, I've been able to watch the entire series despite only learning about 10 names. I probably don't have the GoTIQ of some on here but I still have a pretty good grasp on what's going on.
In the end I hope either Khaleesi or Arya win the Iron Throne trophy. I've been #TeamKhaleesi since season 1, but watching Arya become a cold blooded killer as she roams the countryside with the Hound has been a treat.
Her name is Daenerys. :shakesfist: Kaleesi is her title. That's like saying "I hope Queen wins."
You knew who I was referring to, didn't you? :gocho:
Post by: TownieCat on April 16, 2014, 08:20:01 PM
But I didn't, so now I use terms like Khaleesi, the Grandma, Redheaded Wildling, Fat Night Watch Kid, and Peter Dinklage/The Imp (these are interchangeable) when referencing the characters.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 16, 2014, 08:27:11 PM
I am terrible with names IRL so this just is what it is. I'm sure if I had read the books and read the names 100s of times I'd be better at recalling names.
But I didn't, so now I use terms like Khaleesi, the Grandma, Redheaded Wildling, Fat Night Watch Kid, and Peter Dinklage/The Imp (these are interchangeable) when referencing the characters.
Well you can just refer to me as that bitch who keeps correcting people on character names.
Post by: TownieCat on April 16, 2014, 08:30:15 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 16, 2014, 08:35:53 PM
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/ (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/)
You can look up names, just try not to read to much of any one page, spoilers et al
Post by: Cire on April 17, 2014, 06:06:28 AM
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 17, 2014, 08:07:56 AM
Post by: AppleJack on April 17, 2014, 08:24:21 AM
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 17, 2014, 08:35:40 AM
I'm rooting for the Wildlings to win it all :surprised:
Since Dany will never make it to Westeros it seems. . .I wouldn't mind this guy on the iron throne.
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 17, 2014, 09:07:42 AM
I think the one single redeeming quality about Cersei is her love for her children.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 17, 2014, 09:11:50 AM
OK, so Gooch thought that maybe Cersei did it so she could go back to being the Queen Regent...LOL.
I think the one single redeeming quality about Cersei is her love for her children.
I could see that as a valid theory simply because Tyrion took the glass from the Tyrell side of the table, and maybe he thinks the glass was meant for Margeary.
Post by: mocat on April 17, 2014, 09:13:43 AM
Post by: AppleJack on April 17, 2014, 09:19:58 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 17, 2014, 09:27:37 AM
OK, so Gooch thought that maybe Cersei did it so she could go back to being the Queen Regent...LOL.
I think the one single redeeming quality about Cersei is her love for her children.
I could see that as a valid theory simply because Tyrion took the glass from the Tyrell side of the table, and maybe he thinks the glass was meant for Margeary.
I could see Cersei trying to poison Margaery; but never intentionally killing Joffery. Even though she knows he is a monster she loves him.
Post by: AppleJack on April 17, 2014, 09:47:47 AM
Post by: GCJayhawker on April 17, 2014, 10:03:17 AM
Post by: TownieCat on April 17, 2014, 10:06:49 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on April 17, 2014, 10:15:39 AM
Post by: TownieCat on April 17, 2014, 10:36:11 AM
I don't know what the grandmother's motive would have been.
Marge can make a claim to be the queen regent or whatever? I don't know... This show is so unpredictable that I'd believe that almost anyone is responsible. Maybe it was Fat Night Watch Kid? :dunno:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 17, 2014, 11:03:48 AM
I just want to drop information that will likely lead to a possible person on the throne, but since all you rubes haven't read the books I won't do it. You are welcome.
Go talk about it in the book thread.
Post by: Gooch on April 17, 2014, 11:25:36 AM
Deal!I am terrible with names IRL so this just is what it is. I'm sure if I had read the books and read the names 100s of times I'd be better at recalling names.
But I didn't, so now I use terms like Khaleesi, the Grandma, Redheaded Wildling, Fat Night Watch Kid, and Peter Dinklage/The Imp (these are interchangeable) when referencing the characters.
Well you can just refer to me as that bitch who keeps correcting people on character names.
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 17, 2014, 11:27:50 AM
OK, so Gooch thought that maybe Cersei did it so she could go back to being the Queen Regent...LOL.
I think the one single redeeming quality about Cersei is her love for her children.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: pissclams on April 17, 2014, 12:08:18 PM
I think the one single redeeming quality about Cersei is her love for her children.
she's pretty good looking
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 17, 2014, 12:17:07 PM
I think the one single redeeming quality about Cersei is her love for her children.
she's pretty good looking
She's ok. There are lots of hotter women on GoT.
Post by: pissclams on April 17, 2014, 12:19:27 PM
Post by: AppleJack on April 17, 2014, 12:22:23 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on April 17, 2014, 12:23:27 PM
Margaery > Ygritte > Cersei > Dany > The Hound > Sansa
Shae is > everyone else.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 17, 2014, 12:24:26 PM
Dany
Margaery
Ellaria Sand
Ygritte
Melisandre
Post by: TownieCat on April 17, 2014, 12:26:58 PM
Margaery > Ygritte > Cersei > Dany > The Hound > Sansa
:lol:
Post by: mocat on April 17, 2014, 12:36:03 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 17, 2014, 12:42:37 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on April 17, 2014, 12:49:54 PM
Margaery > Ygritte > Cersei > Dany > The Hound > Sansa
There hasn't been a bigger two face in the history of mankind than the actress that plays Margaery. She can look pretty at times, but holy eff can she look birth defect ugly. In a two face scenario the ugly one is the one that counts for ranking purposes. Her face is busted.
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Gross.
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 17, 2014, 12:52:54 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on April 17, 2014, 12:53:39 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 17, 2014, 12:54:06 PM
I literally have no idea who that is. Who has she killed and how?
She might have killed Joffery with poison.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 17, 2014, 12:56:38 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 17, 2014, 01:05:39 PM
She has fetal alcohol syndrome.
can confirm she's from wichita and is sister to brother perry
Post by: pissclams on April 17, 2014, 01:06:13 PM
Natalie Dormer does look much better with dark hair; but we are talking about Margaery who does have dark hair.
she's a tramp, get over yourself
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 17, 2014, 01:09:08 PM
Natalie Dormer does look much better with dark hair; but we are talking about Margaery who does have dark hair.
she's a tramp, get over yourself
Margaery or the actress portraying her?
Post by: pissclams on April 17, 2014, 01:13:27 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 17, 2014, 01:25:01 PM
I don't know what the grandmother's motive would have been.
Maybe she just didn't want her granddaughter being married to a psychopath, but I'm guessing there's a more devious reason that will be revealed.
No idea if this is related, but granny was talking to Tywin about the "iron bank" earlier at the wedding. That's come up before. I assume it will be significant at some point.
I probably should have guessed that Sansa's necklace had some significance, since that scene where she receives it seemed pretty out of place.
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 17, 2014, 01:35:35 PM
I don't know what the grandmother's motive would have been.
Maybe she just didn't want her granddaughter being married to a psychopath, but I'm guessing there's a more devious reason that will be revealed.
No idea if this is related, but granny was talking to Tywin about the "iron bank" earlier at the wedding. That's come up before. I assume it will be significant at some point.
I probably should have guessed that Sansa's necklace had some significance, since that scene where she receives it seemed pretty out of place.
your cognitive ability is simply astounding.
Post by: Cire on April 17, 2014, 01:43:42 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 17, 2014, 01:44:08 PM
the old lady is basically cercie(?)
Huh?
Post by: TownieCat on April 17, 2014, 01:48:59 PM
the old lady is basically cercie(?)
Maybe a little, except that she's not a total bitch who bangs her brother...among other differences.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 17, 2014, 01:51:05 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 17, 2014, 01:53:53 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 17, 2014, 01:54:30 PM
I think everyone is about to discover that the old lady's IQ is about double Cersei's.
Yeah, and she is much better at controlling her son.
Post by: puniraptor on April 17, 2014, 01:59:20 PM
Post by: TownieCat on April 17, 2014, 02:02:28 PM
the grandma is in love with tommen and she murdered jeffy so that they could get married and be king and queen
:Wha:
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 17, 2014, 02:03:46 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 17, 2014, 02:11:07 PM
Post by: puniraptor on April 17, 2014, 02:13:39 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 17, 2014, 02:21:38 PM
Tommen is slow. That is why his character hasn't said a single word in the show's 3, going on 4 seasons. It's a product of the inbreeding.
He's like four years old at this point. The only thing he is concerned with are his pet cats.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 17, 2014, 02:25:26 PM
Tommen is slow. That is why his character hasn't said a single word in the show's 3, going on 4 seasons. It's a product of the inbreeding.
He's like four years old at this point. The only thing he is concerned with are his pet cats.
In show he looks like he is about 12 so he aged pretty fast from the first season.
Post by: Cire on April 17, 2014, 02:28:59 PM
the queen of thorns is like C because FOE
Post by: puniraptor on April 17, 2014, 02:29:32 PM
Post by: joda on April 17, 2014, 02:30:23 PM
i'm so glad geoffrey got killed before I had to watch him in a sex scene
:thumbs:
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 17, 2014, 02:30:45 PM
Tommen is slow. That is why his character hasn't said a single word in the show's 3, going on 4 seasons. It's a product of the inbreeding.
He's like four years old at this point. The only thing he is concerned with are his pet cats.
In show he looks like he is about 12 so he aged pretty fast from the first season.
I was quite a bit off. The Ice and Fire wiki says he is seven when the series starts, so twelve would be about right. He's very juvenile, but I think that has a lot to do with Joff's bullying and Cersei's babying.
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 17, 2014, 02:31:38 PM
8 in book 4.
the queen of thorns is like C because FOE
so Lady Cat is like Cersei then too.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 17, 2014, 02:33:50 PM
i'm so glad geoffrey got killed before I had to watch him in a sex scene
Well, he did have that scene where Tyrion sent him the whores.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 17, 2014, 02:34:17 PM
8 in book 4.
the queen of thorns is like C because FOE
She Fucks Over Everyone?
Post by: Cire on April 17, 2014, 02:35:02 PM
8 in book 4.
the queen of thorns is like C because FOE
so Lady Cat is like Cersei then too.
she didn't do what was best for Rob Stark
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 17, 2014, 02:36:53 PM
8 in book 4.
the queen of thorns is like C because FOE
so Lady Cat is like Cersei then too.
she didn't do what was best for Rob Stark
my point is that the characters are not similar, other than being the matriarchs of their respective families.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 17, 2014, 02:56:06 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 17, 2014, 02:57:14 PM
Sansa is hotter than the Hound, how ridiculous
I mean, I guess it depends on what you're in to.
Post by: AppleJack on April 17, 2014, 02:58:27 PM
Sansa is hotter than the Hound, how ridiculous
nope
Post by: star seed 7 on April 17, 2014, 03:00:36 PM
Post by: AppleJack on April 17, 2014, 03:07:37 PM
I'm very much into sansa
she looks like her body is equal parts sour cream and Tylenol with the eyes of a opossum staring at you as it devours an apple core from the garbage. if you flashed your headlights at her she would scurry away.
you know?
Post by: star seed 7 on April 17, 2014, 03:10:31 PM
Post by: Benja on April 17, 2014, 03:14:00 PM
I'm very much into sansa
she looks like her body is equal parts sour cream and Tylenol with the eyes of a opossum staring at you as it devours an apple core from the garbage. if you flashed your headlights at her she would scurry away.
you know?
Equal parts sour cream and Tylenol? I have no idea what you're saying but :lol:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 17, 2014, 03:18:58 PM
Post by: Benja on April 17, 2014, 03:44:43 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 17, 2014, 03:45:17 PM
Post by: TownieCat on April 17, 2014, 03:49:24 PM
ANYWAYS... so will Tyrion be on like death row in the next ep?
There are about 5 characters that they better never kill off or I'll quit watching. The Imp is one of them.
In no order, the other 4 are Arya, Khaleesi, Jon Snow, and Fat Night Watch Kid.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 17, 2014, 03:53:59 PM
ANYWAYS... so will Tyrion be on like death row in the next ep?
Well he'll get a trial first.
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 17, 2014, 04:00:28 PM
ANYWAYS... so will Tyrion be on like death row in the next ep?
There are about 5 characters that they better never kill off or I'll quit watching. The Imp is one of them.
In no order, the other 4 are Arya,KhaleesiDaenerys, Jon Snow, andFat Night Watch KidSam.
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 17, 2014, 04:00:49 PM
ANYWAYS... so will Tyrion be on like death row in the next ep?
Well he'll get a trial first.
:excited:
Post by: Benja on April 17, 2014, 04:02:53 PM
ANYWAYS... so will Tyrion be on like death row in the next ep?
Well he'll get a trial first.
:excited:
I hope they burn through three episodes just getting through the litigation process! Law and order: Game of thrones!
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 17, 2014, 04:04:32 PM
ANYWAYS... so will Tyrion be on like death row in the next ep?
Well he'll get a trial first.
:excited:
I hope they burn through three episodes just getting through the litigation process! Law and order: Game of thrones!
well, I know what is supposed to happen. it will make for great television.
Post by: TownieCat on April 17, 2014, 04:04:48 PM
ANYWAYS... so will Tyrion be on like death row in the next ep?
There are about 5 characters that they better never kill off or I'll quit watching. The Imp is one of them.
In no order, the other 4 are Arya,KhaleesiDaenerys, Jon Snow, andFat Night Watch KidSam.
I'm surprised you didn't remove my Oxford comma too. :lol:
Post by: mocat on April 17, 2014, 04:04:59 PM
Post by: Benja on April 17, 2014, 04:05:55 PM
ANYWAYS... so will Tyrion be on like death row in the next ep?
Well he'll get a trial first.
:excited:
I hope they burn through three episodes just getting through the litigation process! Law and order: Game of thrones!
well, I know what is supposed to happen. it will make for great television.
I can't wait
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 17, 2014, 04:06:19 PM
ANYWAYS... so will Tyrion be on like death row in the next ep?
There are about 5 characters that they better never kill off or I'll quit watching. The Imp is one of them.
In no order, the other 4 are Arya,KhaleesiDaenerys, Jon Snow andFat Night Watch KidSam.
I'm surprised you didn't remove my Oxford comma, too. :lol:
How hard is it to remember Sam?
Post by: TownieCat on April 17, 2014, 04:07:06 PM
jon snow, daenerys, arya, and tyrion are the untouchables according to grrm, and that's not a spoiler OR IS IT?? OR IS IT EVEN TRUE?? :runaway:
I had not heard that but really hope it's true! :pray:
Post by: joda on April 17, 2014, 04:13:10 PM
ANYWAYS... so will Tyrion be on like death row in the next ep?
Well he'll get a trial first.
:excited:
I hope they burn through three episodes just getting through the litigation process! Law and order: Game of thrones!
well, I know what is supposed to happen. it will make for great television.
I can't wait
Yes, all things Tyrion related should be great over the next few episodes. The only thing I'm worried about is that they'll start rushing. There's still a significant amount of book 3 left, especially in KL and the wall.
Post by: CNS on April 17, 2014, 04:15:16 PM
jon snow, daenerys, arya, and tyrion are the untouchables according to grrm, and that's not a spoiler OR IS IT?? OR IS IT EVEN TRUE?? :runaway:
I had not heard that but really hope it's true! :pray:
Those four are amazing. Can't wait until they all get in the same location.
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 17, 2014, 04:31:55 PM
ANYWAYS... so will Tyrion be on like death row in the next ep?
Well he'll get a trial first.
:excited:
I hope they burn through three episodes just getting through the litigation process! Law and order: Game of thrones!
well, I know what is supposed to happen. it will make for great television.
I can't wait
Yes, all things Tyrion related should be great over the next few episodes. The only thing I'm worried about is that they'll start rushing. There's still a significant amount of book 3 left, especially in KL and the wall.
there will be quite a few episodes where he doesn't appear on the screen, I imagine.
Post by: joda on April 17, 2014, 04:43:46 PM
ANYWAYS... so will Tyrion be on like death row in the next ep?
Well he'll get a trial first.
:excited:
I hope they burn through three episodes just getting through the litigation process! Law and order: Game of thrones!
well, I know what is supposed to happen. it will make for great television.
I can't wait
Yes, all things Tyrion related should be great over the next few episodes. The only thing I'm worried about is that they'll start rushing. There's still a significant amount of book 3 left, especially in KL and the wall.
there will be quite a few episodes where he doesn't appear on the screen, I imagine.
His storyline is probably the farthest behind though. The KL storyline could easily last most of the rest of the season. I'll be pretty pissed off if they try to catch it up and don't fully cover it because like you said it should be great tv
Post by: puniraptor on April 17, 2014, 04:46:12 PM
Post by: Benja on April 17, 2014, 04:47:53 PM
ANYWAYS... so will Tyrion be on like death row in the next ep?
Well he'll get a trial first.
:excited:
I hope they burn through three episodes just getting through the litigation process! Law and order: Game of thrones!
well, I know what is supposed to happen. it will make for great television.
I can't wait
Yes, all things Tyrion related should be great over the next few episodes. The only thing I'm worried about is that they'll start rushing. There's still a significant amount of book 3 left, especially in KL and the wall.
there will be quite a few episodes where he doesn't appear on the screen, I imagine.
His storyline is probably the farthest behind though. The KL storyline could easily last most of the rest of the season. I'll be pretty pissed off if they try to catch it up and don't fully cover it because like you said it should be great tv
You'll always be pissed if you are comparing it to the books and expecting them to fully cover everything. Just enjoy a great show.
Post by: joda on April 17, 2014, 04:50:52 PM
ANYWAYS... so will Tyrion be on like death row in the next ep?
Well he'll get a trial first.
:excited:
I hope they burn through three episodes just getting through the litigation process! Law and order: Game of thrones!
well, I know what is supposed to happen. it will make for great television.
I can't wait
Yes, all things Tyrion related should be great over the next few episodes. The only thing I'm worried about is that they'll start rushing. There's still a significant amount of book 3 left, especially in KL and the wall.
there will be quite a few episodes where he doesn't appear on the screen, I imagine.
His storyline is probably the farthest behind though. The KL storyline could easily last most of the rest of the season. I'll be pretty pissed off if they try to catch it up and don't fully cover it because like you said it should be great tv
You'll always be pissed if you are comparing it to the books and expecting them to fully cover everything. Just enjoy a great show.
I know that and I'm fully expecting some skippage, I'm referring more to the possibility of leaving out key parts that would be great on tv simply to hurry the storyline along to catch up with other story lines.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 17, 2014, 04:51:38 PM
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 17, 2014, 04:52:09 PM
If that happens I'll be all like
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Letterman interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBc8BwUWoCc
Post by: Benja on April 17, 2014, 04:53:04 PM
ANYWAYS... so will Tyrion be on like death row in the next ep?
Well he'll get a trial first.
:excited:
I hope they burn through three episodes just getting through the litigation process! Law and order: Game of thrones!
well, I know what is supposed to happen. it will make for great television.
I can't wait
Yes, all things Tyrion related should be great over the next few episodes. The only thing I'm worried about is that they'll start rushing. There's still a significant amount of book 3 left, especially in KL and the wall.
there will be quite a few episodes where he doesn't appear on the screen, I imagine.
His storyline is probably the farthest behind though. The KL storyline could easily last most of the rest of the season. I'll be pretty pissed off if they try to catch it up and don't fully cover it because like you said it should be great tv
You'll always be pissed if you are comparing it to the books and expecting them to fully cover everything. Just enjoy a great show.
I know that and I'm fully expecting some skippage, I'm referring more to the possibility of leaving out key parts that would be great on tv simply to hurry the storyline along to catch up with other story lines.
:drool:
Post by: Benja on April 17, 2014, 04:53:51 PM
It sort of bothers me that the show might catch up to the books and then what happens?
huge orgy
Post by: Gooch on April 17, 2014, 04:55:02 PM
pretty sure they're all 10's on MiR's scale.:thumbs:
Post by: joda on April 17, 2014, 04:56:03 PM
It sort of bothers me that the show might catch up to the books and then what happens?
They've pretty much come out and said this will probably happen. Martin has already told the producers how it ends and some key points he plans to have occur. I'm assuming when they pass the books Martin will have an increased role in writing (or at least in reviewing) episodes.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 17, 2014, 04:56:49 PM
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 17, 2014, 04:58:49 PM
It sort of bothers me that the show might catch up to the books and then what happens?
They've pretty much come out and said this will probably happen. Martin has already told the producers how it ends and some key points he plans to have occur. I'm assuming when they pass the books Martin will have an increased role in writing (or at least in reviewing) episodes.
IIRC they are even discussing deviating a little from the books so that the ending works well for the show. This meaning that a)a lot of things won't match the books and b) the book snobs will have nothing to say! :thumbsup:
Post by: Benja on April 17, 2014, 05:00:25 PM
It sort of bothers me that the show might catch up to the books and then what happens?
They've pretty much come out and said this will probably happen. Martin has already told the producers how it ends and some key points he plans to have occur. I'm assuming when they pass the books Martin will have an increased role in writing (or at least in reviewing) episodes.
When the show passes the book I'll be so, so happy. We can all converge on this one thread and enjoy it together.
Post by: joda on April 17, 2014, 05:02:59 PM
It sort of bothers me that the show might catch up to the books and then what happens?
They've pretty much come out and said this will probably happen. Martin has already told the producers how it ends and some key points he plans to have occur. I'm assuming when they pass the books Martin will have an increased role in writing (or at least in reviewing) episodes.
When the show passes the book I'll be so, so happy. We can all converge on this one thread and enjoy it together.
Yea, I love both the books and show so I have no problem with watching the show once it passes the books.
Post by: Benja on April 17, 2014, 05:13:17 PM
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Post by: Cire on April 17, 2014, 05:18:01 PM
Post by: joda on April 17, 2014, 05:22:15 PM
PD said on letterman that season for is the end of book 3. THAT's IT?
Hadn't heard that but I'm fine with that. The 2nd half of book 3 is one of the best parts of the whole series. The only thing I've read that worries me they'll try to hurry things is they're worried about how old the kids are getting to play their characters.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 17, 2014, 05:25:02 PM
Post by: joda on April 17, 2014, 05:28:40 PM
From what I understand the Jon Snow and Daenerys storylines are from books four and five because they aren't really present in the end of book three and book four and five run concurrently.
There's still quite a bit of Jon's story from 3 that hasn't been covered. But they've already done a few things that will allow them to easily shorten it. Dany's storyline is pretty close to the end of 3 already though.
Post by: pissclams on April 17, 2014, 07:03:06 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on April 17, 2014, 08:27:18 PM
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Post by: Asteriskhead on April 17, 2014, 09:48:17 PM
Book people unchained
nobody would mistake you for a book person with that avatar.
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 17, 2014, 10:48:43 PM
Post by: CNS on April 17, 2014, 10:53:03 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 17, 2014, 10:57:53 PM
Belwas is a pretty dumb character. Super easy to make mormont or barristan that guy as well as what they already are.
bullshit
Post by: mocat on April 17, 2014, 11:15:45 PM
Belwas is a pretty dumb character. Super easy to make mormont or barristan that guy as well as what they already are.
bullshit
Agreed.
Post by: puniraptor on April 17, 2014, 11:18:37 PM
Book people unchained
nobody would mistake you for a book person with that avatar.
ONE BOOK TO RULE THEM ALL
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 17, 2014, 11:31:44 PM
If i see a mormont drop trough and crap on enemy lines at any point, i might consider reading the initial post without a face full of disgust.Belwas is a pretty dumb character. Super easy to make mormont or barristan that guy as well as what they already are.
bullshit
Agreed.
Post by: mocat on April 18, 2014, 01:01:09 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 18, 2014, 07:37:50 AM
Post by: Benja on April 20, 2014, 08:42:20 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on April 20, 2014, 09:45:02 PM
Post by: TownieCat on April 20, 2014, 09:54:51 PM
We only get 5 minutes of dragon lady and it's always the best 5 minutes of the show <3
Such a badass. Kind of a slow episode but those last five minutes :love:
Post by: TownieCat on April 21, 2014, 09:16:11 AM
:sdeek:
Post by: Mr Bread on April 21, 2014, 09:17:41 AM
Post by: Pete on April 21, 2014, 09:30:09 AM
quit talking about the books you rough ridin' mongloids
Here is what is baffling to me. How you guys who haven't read the books can watch this show and not want to read the books. If literally dozens of people that I know were to tell me that a book (series of books, actually) were the greatest fiction that they have ever read, I would read the book. I mean, eff. Don't do this to yourselves, guys. Don't cheat yourself. Read the god damn books. I'm rough ridin' trying to help you here.
Post by: TownieCat on April 21, 2014, 09:37:10 AM
quit talking about the books you rough ridin' mongloids
Here is what is baffling to me. How you guys who haven't read the books can watch this show and not want to read the books. If literally dozens of people that I know were to tell me that a book (series of books, actually) were the greatest fiction that they have ever read, I would read the book. I mean, eff. Don't do this to yourselves, guys. Don't cheat yourself. Read the god damn books. I'm rough ridin' trying to help you here.
I don't enjoy reading :dunno:
Post by: Cire on April 21, 2014, 09:40:35 AM
Post by: mocat on April 21, 2014, 09:55:34 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on April 21, 2014, 09:57:39 AM
Post by: pissclams on April 21, 2014, 10:10:09 AM
Good one, Pete.
yup, for a second i thought he was being serious too :lol:
Post by: OK_Cat on April 21, 2014, 10:12:10 AM
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 21, 2014, 11:06:07 AM
quit talking about the books you rough ridin' mongloids
Here is what is baffling to me. How you guys who haven't read the books can watch this show and not want to read the books. If literally dozens of people that I know were to tell me that a book (series of books, actually) were the greatest fiction that they have ever read, I would read the book. I mean, eff. Don't do this to yourselves, guys. Don't cheat yourself. Read the god damn books. I'm rough ridin' trying to help you here.
I love reading, but between my two jobs I feel like I don't have time to do it as much anymore. :( I own the first book, but I just haven't made a dent in it.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 21, 2014, 11:08:02 AM
Speaking of which. . .that mob of white walkers was marching on the wall and what? They decided to just camp for a year or two because it isn't the right time? Baffling really.
Post by: Pete on April 21, 2014, 11:14:20 AM
Good one, Pete.
yup, for a second i thought he was being serious too :lol:
I WAS TOTALLY BEING SERIOUS, YOU SON OF A BITCH, READ THE BOOKS!!!!!1
Post by: TownieCat on April 21, 2014, 11:15:50 AM
Am I the only one that thinks Goffs brother could actually make a really good king, and as long as Tyrion is set free everyone should just call it good and turn their attentions on the white walkers everyone seems to be ignoring?
Speaking of which. . .that mob of white walkers was marching on the wall and what? They decided to just camp for a year or two because it isn't the right time? Baffling really.
Great point about the WWs. We're 3 eps into S4 and nothing... Ever since Sam (aka Fat Night Watch Kid) killed one in S3E8 have we seen one?
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 21, 2014, 11:17:25 AM
The Jaime rape/incest scene though. :sdeek: What the hell was that?
The guy from Dorn? Is pretty awesome. That was a good scene with Tywin.
And Sansa just can't catch a break. Remind me though, with House Stark basically dead, what is Little Finger's interest in her?
Post by: Pete on April 21, 2014, 11:24:30 AM
And Sansa just can't catch a break. Remind me though, with House Stark basically dead, what is Little Finger's interest in her?
The Stark PEOPLE might be dead, but their lands, the remnants of Winterfell, and their banner men are all there for the taking once a rightful claim is presented. Sansa (and her husband) would appear to be a the front of the line right now.
Post by: OK_Cat on April 21, 2014, 11:28:02 AM
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 21, 2014, 11:29:30 AM
Am I the only one that thinks Goffs brother could actually make a really good king, and as long as Tyrion is set free everyone should just call it good and turn their attentions on the white walkers everyone seems to be ignoring?
Speaking of which. . .that mob of white walkers was marching on the wall and what? They decided to just camp for a year or two because it isn't the right time? Baffling really.
Great point about the WWs. We're 3 eps into S4 and nothing... Ever since Sam (aka Fat Night Watch Kid) killed one in S3E8 have we seen one?
Nope. And they just kind of brushed on the fact that everyone thinks Sam is lying. Maybe they'll encounter the WWs when they go to kill the people north of the wall they were talking about? As someone who watches Walking Dead, that horde or White Walkers would be all over Castle Black by now.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 21, 2014, 11:30:43 AM
And Sansa just can't catch a break. Remind me though, with House Stark basically dead, what is Little Finger's interest in her?
The Stark PEOPLE might be dead, but their lands, the remnants of Winterfell, and their banner men are all there for the taking once a rightful claim is presented. Sansa (and her husband) would appear to be a the front of the line right now.
So Little Finger framed Tyrion so he could marry Sansa and be the new leader of the north? Doesn't one of the remaining boys have more claim to leading the north than Sansa's husband?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 21, 2014, 11:31:56 AM
Plus he is super creepy
Littlefinger was in love with Sansa's mother, and Sansa reminds him of Catelyn...but I'm not sure that they are going to let him get as creepy in that regard in the show.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 21, 2014, 11:33:12 AM
And Sansa just can't catch a break. Remind me though, with House Stark basically dead, what is Little Finger's interest in her?
The Stark PEOPLE might be dead, but their lands, the remnants of Winterfell, and their banner men are all there for the taking once a rightful claim is presented. Sansa (and her husband) would appear to be a the front of the line right now.
So Little Finger framed Tyrion so he could marry Sansa and be the new leader of the north? Doesn't one of the remaining boys have more claim to leading the north than Sansa's husband?
Everyone thinks all the Stark boys are dead, therefore Sansa is the next in line.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 21, 2014, 11:37:18 AM
Post by: TownieCat on April 21, 2014, 11:41:10 AM
And Sansa just can't catch a break. Remind me though, with House Stark basically dead, what is Little Finger's interest in her?
The Stark PEOPLE might be dead, but their lands, the remnants of Winterfell, and their banner men are all there for the taking once a rightful claim is presented. Sansa (and her husband) would appear to be a the front of the line right now.
So Little Finger framed Tyrion so he could marry Sansa and be the new leader of the north? Doesn't one of the remaining boys have more claim to leading the north than Sansa's husband?
Everyone thinks all the Stark boys are dead, therefore Sansa is the next in line.
Bran is the next in line, but yes, everyone thinks he's dead.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 21, 2014, 11:52:01 AM
I really want to start liking Jaime. Besides him crippling a little boy in the first episode I've really liked his character development. Last night when he raped Cersei. . .I almost was ok with it because I hate Cersei so much. I can't wrap my head around how anyone thinks that Tyrion committed the crime. Cersei is just a dumb bitch and needs to shut her whore mouth.
Post by: Benja on April 21, 2014, 11:53:46 AM
quit talking about the books you rough ridin' mongloids
Here is what is baffling to me. How you guys who haven't read the books can watch this show and not want to read the books. If literally dozens of people that I know were to tell me that a book (series of books, actually) were the greatest fiction that they have ever read, I would read the book. I mean, eff. Don't do this to yourselves, guys. Don't cheat yourself. Read the god damn books. I'm rough ridin' trying to help you here.
I just started reading the books, ok? Gee wiz.
I DON'T USUALLY READ OLD TIMEY DRAGONS AND KINGS AND JUNK FICTION THAT'S WHY I HAVE PROCRASTINATED ON READING IT TO THIS POINT, BUT THEN AGAIN I GUESS I DON'T USUALLY WATCH OLD TIMEY DRAGON AND KING FICTION EITHER BUT HERE I AM ENJOYING THE CRAP OUT OF THIS SHOW SO I GUESS IT'S TIME TO RE-ASSESS MY FEELINGS ON THIS GENRE AND I SUPPOSE I'LL START BY READING THE GODDAMN BOOKS!!! OK?? OK!!???
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 21, 2014, 12:00:45 PM
Based on the fact that they killed all of Robert's bastards because they could claim the throne, could Jon Snow claim leadership of Winterfell if he was released of his obligations to the wall?
He'd need to be legitimized first.
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 21, 2014, 12:03:28 PM
I'm not sure if everyone watches the op :Wha:ening credits. . .since it seems to get longer every episode. . .but I quite enjoy that when they show Winterfell it is smoking due to being on fire. Nice touch IMO.
I really want to start liking Jaime. Besides him crippling a little boy in the first episode I've really liked his character development. Last night when he raped Cersei. . .I almost was ok with it because I hate Cersei so much. I can't wrap my head around how anyone thinks that Tyrion committed the crime. Cersei is just a dumb bitch and needs to shut her whore mouth.
I realize you're referring to fictional characters here, but I don't think I would like you IRL.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 21, 2014, 12:07:41 PM
I'm not sure if everyone watches the op :Wha:ening credits. . .since it seems to get longer every episode. . .but I quite enjoy that when they show Winterfell it is smoking due to being on fire. Nice touch IMO.
I really want to start liking Jaime. Besides him crippling a little boy in the first episode I've really liked his character development. Last night when he raped Cersei. . .I almost was ok with it because I hate Cersei so much. I can't wrap my head around how anyone thinks that Tyrion committed the crime. Cersei is just a dumb bitch and needs to shut her whore mouth.
I realize you're referring to fictional characters here, but I don't think I would like you IRL.
I was watching with the gf and we both kind of were taken aback by it (since we both have liked jaime's character progression) but we couldn't help but feel like we didn't care about her character's well being. That was a weird as eff scene though.
Post by: TownieCat on April 21, 2014, 12:13:33 PM
Post by: Benja on April 21, 2014, 12:15:14 PM
Everything about the rape scene made me want to vomit. I mean, his dead son was right there :sdeek:
it's almost like that was the point. i bet that scene was portrayed a lot better in the book.
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 21, 2014, 12:15:42 PM
I'm not sure if everyone watches the opening credits. . .since it seems to get longer every episode. . .but I quite enjoy that when they show Winterfell it is smoking due to being on fire. Nice touch IMO.
I really want to start liking Jaime. Besides him crippling a little boy in the first episode I've really liked his character development. Last night when he raped Cersei. . .I almost was ok with it because I hate Cersei so much. I can't wrap my head around how anyone thinks that Tyrion committed the crime. Cersei is just a dumb bitch and needs to shut her whore mouth.
I realize you're referring to fictional characters here, but I don't think I would like you IRL.
I was watching with the gf and we both kind of were taken aback by it (since we both have liked jaime's character progression) but we couldn't help but feel like we didn't care about her character's well being. That was a weird as eff scene though.
We're going to ignore the fact that you said you might be okay with rape because you like one character and hate another and focus on your reliance on sexually demeaning language to articulate your distaste for a powerful female character. From your post, the only thing that I take away is that you hate women.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 21, 2014, 12:19:27 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 21, 2014, 12:22:40 PM
Must clarify. Not ok with rape. I'm also not ok with murder. But, I did enjoy when Arya stabbed that guy in the throat? :dunno:
So, we're just going to ignore the abhorrently misogynistic tone of your post then?
Post by: TownieCat on April 21, 2014, 12:24:30 PM
Must clarify. Not ok with rape. I'm also not ok with murder. But, I did enjoy when Arya stabbed that guy in the throat? :dunno:
Arya has been my favorite character in S4 so far. I enjoyed the hell out of that scene.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 21, 2014, 12:24:37 PM
Must clarify. Not ok with rape. I'm also not ok with murder. But, I did enjoy when Arya stabbed that guy in the throat? :dunno:
So, we're just going to ignore the abhorrently misogynistic tone of your post then?
I may need clarification. I don't see that tone in there?
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 21, 2014, 12:25:27 PM
Must clarify. Not ok with rape. I'm also not ok with murder. But, I did enjoy when Arya stabbed that guy in the throat? :dunno:
Arya has been my favorite character in S4 so far. I enjoyed the hell out of that scene.
I'm pumped because spoilers on here mentioned she is going to be a badass. And that's awesome.
Post by: Benja on April 21, 2014, 12:28:09 PM
Post by: TownieCat on April 21, 2014, 12:29:19 PM
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 21, 2014, 12:30:56 PM
why do you hate women ydarg and view them as merely an inanimate object with a slot for your smelly wiener? geez, grow up.
Clarification: I don't hate women. :thumbs:
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 21, 2014, 12:31:29 PM
Post by: mocat on April 21, 2014, 12:34:33 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 21, 2014, 12:36:44 PM
why do you hate women ydarg and view them as merely an inanimate object with a slot for your smelly wiener? geez, grow up.
Clarification: I don't hate women. :thumbs:
I don't think you respect them either.
Post by: Benja on April 21, 2014, 12:40:24 PM
getting back to where in the world are the white walkers, the end of season 2 when they are walking past Sam, that is not the Wall in the distance. that is the Fist of the First Men, where all the men of the night's watch were camping. then there was a great big slaughter that was not depicted in the show, and the aftermath was that there are only ~100 men left to guard the entire Wall. after the battle on the Fist, the white walkers have not been seen
what comes first, winter or dragons? both have been on their way for a minute now
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 21, 2014, 12:40:26 PM
"Dumb bitch" and "whore mouth" is pretty extreme language.
I apologize. . .I used that language due to my anger at her accusing Tyrion. I never should have said those things because they look bad on me and on the board. It was never my intention to harm this boards glowing reputation. I put my fate as an up and coming bbs enthusiast in the hands of the powers that be and hope only that they judge me as I deserve. It is with great regret and a heavy heart that I have offended you Mh. I hope you can forgive me.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 21, 2014, 12:43:13 PM
getting back to where in the world are the white walkers, the end of season 2 when they are walking past Sam, that is not the Wall in the distance. that is the Fist of the First Men, where all the men of the night's watch were camping. then there was a great big slaughter that was not depicted in the show, and the aftermath was that there are only ~100 men left to guard the entire Wall. after the battle on the Fist, the white walkers have not been seen
what comes first, winter or dragons? both have been on their way for a minute now
My guess is winter because dragon fire melts ice? :dunno:
Post by: joda on April 21, 2014, 12:47:51 PM
It really pissed me off since Jamie's character is becoming likable at this point in both the books and the show. This scene in the books makes you realize Jamie loves her more than she does him and you start to feel a little bad for him too. This portrayal makes you feel a little bad for Cersei even though she's well on her way to psychopath town.
Post by: mocat on April 21, 2014, 12:49:55 PM
getting back to where in the world are the white walkers, the end of season 2 when they are walking past Sam, that is not the Wall in the distance. that is the Fist of the First Men, where all the men of the night's watch were camping. then there was a great big slaughter that was not depicted in the show, and the aftermath was that there are only ~100 men left to guard the entire Wall. after the battle on the Fist, the white walkers have not been seen
what comes first, winter or dragons? both have been on their way for a minute now
you will have to take that up with the great bearded glacier himself.
Post by: mocat on April 21, 2014, 12:50:13 PM
The Cercei/Jamie scene was weird as eff. I really hope they didn't intend it to be that rape-y but it definitely came out that way. It was somewhat accurate to the books (in the sept, dead Joffrey right there) but in the books it happens right when Jamie gets back to KL and Cersei is all they killed our son, you're back, avenge him, kiss me, no not here, oh, ok. I think they where trying to give that impression but the mixed up timeline made it come off as rape.
It really pissed me off since Jamie's character is becoming likable at this point in both the books and the show. This scene in the books makes you realize Jamie loves her more than she does him and you start to feel a little bad for him too. This portrayal makes you feel a little bad for Cersei even though she's well on her way to psychopath town.
good analysis here joda
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 21, 2014, 12:56:53 PM
"Dumb bitch" and "whore mouth" is pretty extreme language.
I apologize. . .I used that language due to my anger at her accusing Tyrion. I never should have said those things because they look bad on me and on the board. It was never my intention to harm this boards glowing reputation. I put my fate as an up and coming bbs enthusiast in the hands of the powers that be and hope only that they judge me as I deserve. It is with great regret and a heavy heart that I have offended you Mh. I hope you can forgive me.
I'm more or less bored AF in a car on my way back to MHK from Denver. It's whatever. There are other ways to articulate your feelings about Cersei. Everything she does is for herself or her children, like most parents I know, but she never considers the impact her decisions might have upon those outside of that circle.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 21, 2014, 12:58:15 PM
The Cercei/Jamie scene was weird as eff. I really hope they didn't intend it to be that rape-y but it definitely came out that way. It was somewhat accurate to the books (in the sept, dead Joffrey right there) but in the books it happens right when Jamie gets back to KL and Cersei is all they killed our son, you're back, avenge him, kiss me, no not here, oh, ok. I think they where trying to give that impression but the mixed up timeline made it come off as rape.
It really pissed me off since Jamie's character is becoming likable at this point in both the books and the show. This scene in the books makes you realize Jamie loves her more than she does him and you start to feel a little bad for him too. This portrayal makes you feel a little bad for Cersei even though she's well on her way to psychopath town.
:thumbs: Thank you for that clarification. It bothered me that the show took that turn which seemed to sully Jaime a bit.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 21, 2014, 01:02:49 PM
"Dumb bitch" and "whore mouth" is pretty extreme language.
I apologize. . .I used that language due to my anger at her accusing Tyrion. I never should have said those things because they look bad on me and on the board. It was never my intention to harm this boards glowing reputation. I put my fate as an up and coming bbs enthusiast in the hands of the powers that be and hope only that they judge me as I deserve. It is with great regret and a heavy heart that I have offended you Mh. I hope you can forgive me.
I'm more or less bored AF in a car on my way back to MHK from Denver. It's whatever. There are other ways to articulate your feelings about Cersei. Everything she does is for herself or her children, like most parents I know, but she never considers the impact her decisions might have upon those outside of that circle.
As someone who hasn't read the books I have entertained the idea she might have poisoned Joff to hold on to control of the throne? It was even more telling that Tyrion completely ruled her out. . .which somehow raises my suspicion of her even more. I think Lena Headey has done such a good job with her that like Jack Gleeson I despise the character.
Post by: Benja on April 21, 2014, 01:12:23 PM
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 21, 2014, 02:45:36 PM
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Post by: TownieCat on April 21, 2014, 02:47:46 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 21, 2014, 03:54:38 PM
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 21, 2014, 04:02:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2leyatpoRBU
Post by: star seed 7 on April 21, 2014, 04:08:54 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 22, 2014, 10:34:55 AM
Post by: TownieCat on April 22, 2014, 11:17:41 AM
We're going to get to see Hafthor playing the mountain here soon and I'm probably going to lose my mind.
His wiki page says he used to be a basketball player... :Wha:
Post by: Cire on April 22, 2014, 11:18:19 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 22, 2014, 11:21:40 AM
We're going to get to see Hafthor playing the mountain here soon and I'm probably going to lose my mind.
His wiki page says he used to be a basketball player... :Wha:
So did 2x champ, Brian Shaw. He played at Black Hills State.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 22, 2014, 11:52:30 AM
We're going to get to see Hafthor playing the mountain here soon and I'm probably going to lose my mind.
He is HUGE!!
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1374.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag419%2Fydarg2012%2FLena-Headey-Haf-r-J-l-us-Bj-rnsson-game-of-thrones-35775279-426-679_zps222b61b2.jpg&hash=9c54bb0afafb3358df039c477950b9ff9b41dcd5) (http://s1374.photobucket.com/user/ydarg2012/media/Lena-Headey-Haf-r-J-l-us-Bj-rnsson-game-of-thrones-35775279-426-679_zps222b61b2.jpg.html)
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 22, 2014, 12:00:09 PM
We're going to get to see Hafthor playing the mountain here soon and I'm probably going to lose my mind.
He is HUGE!!
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1374.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag419%2Fydarg2012%2FLena-Headey-Haf-r-J-l-us-Bj-rnsson-game-of-thrones-35775279-426-679_zps222b61b2.jpg&hash=9c54bb0afafb3358df039c477950b9ff9b41dcd5) (http://s1374.photobucket.com/user/ydarg2012/media/Lena-Headey-Haf-r-J-l-us-Bj-rnsson-game-of-thrones-35775279-426-679_zps222b61b2.jpg.html)
he's goddamn near 400 pounds and has visible abs.
Post by: TownieCat on April 22, 2014, 12:01:23 PM
Post by: CNS on April 22, 2014, 12:03:04 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 22, 2014, 12:04:44 PM
But can he act?
I think that he'll do just fine in this role.
Post by: Benja on April 22, 2014, 12:07:36 PM
We're going to get to see Hafthor playing the mountain here soon and I'm probably going to lose my mind.
He is HUGE!!
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1374.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag419%2Fydarg2012%2FLena-Headey-Haf-r-J-l-us-Bj-rnsson-game-of-thrones-35775279-426-679_zps222b61b2.jpg&hash=9c54bb0afafb3358df039c477950b9ff9b41dcd5) (http://s1374.photobucket.com/user/ydarg2012/media/Lena-Headey-Haf-r-J-l-us-Bj-rnsson-game-of-thrones-35775279-426-679_zps222b61b2.jpg.html)
aww. they are adorable.
Post by: mocat on April 22, 2014, 12:13:15 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 22, 2014, 12:18:54 PM
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Post by: Asteriskhead on April 22, 2014, 12:19:57 PM
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Post by: mocat on April 22, 2014, 12:20:16 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 22, 2014, 12:21:04 PM
look at that selfie!!!
Post by: Benja on April 22, 2014, 12:22:20 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 22, 2014, 12:23:26 PM
tattoos don't even bother him. also, tiny unknown human appears to be tiny Hafthor offspring.
(totes srs, that vice piece on icelandic strongmen said that he falls asleep in the tattoo chair all the time)
Post by: joda on April 22, 2014, 12:48:21 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 22, 2014, 12:51:12 PM
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Post by: AppleJack on April 22, 2014, 01:40:25 PM
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 22, 2014, 02:03:11 PM
what's going on with the wildlings that climbed over the wall? looks like there are a couple different, unrelated types. the cannibals and the others. both groups climbed up and over the wall and are now terrorizing the villagers south of the wall? so, they had to bypass castle black to get to the villagers, no? why didn't they just go attack castle black? The goal is to neutralize CB so that the rest of their armies can pass through the wall, no? So, what are they doing rough ridin' with the villages south of castle black?
Also, what was Snow's gameplan at the end? I missed that. They're going to meet the cannibals in the field to defeat them before they come for them at CB? What's going on here?
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 22, 2014, 02:05:43 PM
Mance Rayder, The King Beyond the Wall, sent out a group to climb the wall, do some scouting and to act as a diversion for the approaching massive army.
Jon Snow wants to go kill the group of Crows that deserted, as they know things that would be beneficial to Mance's approaching force.
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 22, 2014, 02:18:03 PM
Post by: Cire on April 22, 2014, 02:25:47 PM
They mention it in the show, the wildlings are raiding villages to piss off the Watch and draw them out into open combat, rather than trying to siege a fortified castle.
yeah, that's why they sent the kid to the wall. trying to draw them out.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 22, 2014, 04:15:56 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on April 22, 2014, 04:37:58 PM
I know the whole point will be that the rest of Westeros will be distracted and divided, but I can't help but think any army south of the wall could crush the wildlings.
They aren't invading because they can win, they're invading because they're running away from something worse.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 22, 2014, 04:40:08 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 22, 2014, 04:42:17 PM
Wowza. So after Mance Rayder gets his army south of the wall they will go into hiding? Or are we expecting them to send commissaries to ask for other forces to join them against the walking dead?When you're running from the bear, you aren't looking around for a nice place with cable TV, just some place with no bear.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 22, 2014, 04:53:03 PM
Wowza. So after Mance Rayder gets his army south of the wall they will go into hiding? Or are we expecting them to send commissaries to ask for other forces to join them against the walking dead?When you're running from the bear, you aren't looking around for a nice place with cable TV, just some place with no bear.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1374.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag419%2Fydarg2012%2F64c41-nod-of-approval_zps973bc7c4.gif&hash=421f62d283c5464c643c5f4bab02717124605faf) (http://s1374.photobucket.com/user/ydarg2012/media/64c41-nod-of-approval_zps973bc7c4.gif.html)
Post by: Mr Bread on April 22, 2014, 05:01:02 PM
Wowza. So after Mance Rayder gets his army south of the wall they will go into hiding? Or are we expecting them to send commissaries to ask for other forces to join them against the walking dead?
He wants the civilians inside the wall and safe(er). I imagine the plan after that was to dig in and reach some sort of bargained for agreement whereby the wildings are allowed to remain south of the wall. Failing that they fight to stay south of the wall. They were always going to be mumped if anyone other than the night's watch decided to get involved. The wall and its castles aren't designed to defend from the south. It's better than the alternative though.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 23, 2014, 01:51:32 PM
Post by: mocat on April 23, 2014, 01:53:57 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 23, 2014, 02:00:48 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on April 23, 2014, 02:20:14 PM
Maybe there's a cache of obsidian (a.k.a. Dragonglass) somewhere?
Yeah, the Children might have some or somebody could pull off a big balls trip into what's left of Valyria (like Crow's Eye says he did to get the dragon horn).
Post by: Gooch on April 23, 2014, 02:37:29 PM
Maybe there's a cache of obsidian (a.k.a. Dragonglass) somewhere?JFC Spoiler alert!
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 23, 2014, 03:25:15 PM
Also Bread for referencing an unknown object acquired by and unknown person to the TV watchers, take it to the book thread, pal! :buh-bye:Maybe there's a cache of obsidian (a.k.a. Dragonglass) somewhere?JFC Spoiler alert!
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 24, 2014, 01:24:24 PM
http://happyplace.someecards.com/30843/leaked-script-for-controversial-game-of-thrones-rape-scene
Post by: CNS on April 24, 2014, 01:33:49 PM
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 24, 2014, 03:35:11 PM
if TV gets then chance, they will always rapey up something more than it was intended.
Maybe HBO is still insecure that their ratings are based off showing T and A and got a little too agressive? :dunno:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 24, 2014, 03:42:12 PM
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 24, 2014, 03:59:30 PM
Post by: CNS on April 24, 2014, 04:01:46 PM
I think our love for Tyrion blinds us to how weird the rest of the Lannisters are
Nope, their weirdness is pretty apparent. I mean, if it was clearly consensual sex between sister and brother immediately next to their shared son's dead body rather than questionable rape, then maybe....
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 24, 2014, 04:05:42 PM
They asked GRRM about it, he didn't seem to have a problem with it... in the books that meeting in the sept is ther first time they've seen each other since Jaime returns to KL, in their shared grief they bang one out next to Joff's remains. Since in the show hes been back a while, it wouldn't really make sense, so they had to change up the scene..... and I guess it got a little rapey.I think our love for Tyrion blinds us to how weird the rest of the Lannisters are
Nope, their weirdness is pretty apparent. I mean, if it was clearly consensual sex between sister and brother immediately next to their shared son's dead body rather than questionable rape, then maybe....
Post by: CNS on April 24, 2014, 04:08:37 PM
They asked GRRM about it, he didn't seem to have a problem with it... in the books that meeting in the sept is ther first time they've seen each other since Jaime returns to KL, in their shared grief they bang one out next to Joff's remains. Since in the show hes been back a while, it wouldn't really make sense, so they had to change up the scene..... and I guess it got a little rapey.I think our love for Tyrion blinds us to how weird the rest of the Lannisters are
Nope, their weirdness is pretty apparent. I mean, if it was clearly consensual sex between sister and brother immediately next to their shared son's dead body rather than questionable rape, then maybe....
Yeah, I know. Was joking about lanisters being extremely easy to spot as weird. :dubious:
Post by: TownieCat on April 27, 2014, 08:02:07 PM
Post by: Benja on April 27, 2014, 08:20:27 PM
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Post by: nicname on April 27, 2014, 10:55:45 PM
The Cercei/Jamie scene was weird as eff. I really hope they didn't intend it to be that rape-y but it definitely came out that way. It was somewhat accurate to the books (in the sept, dead Joffrey right there) but in the books it happens right when Jamie gets back to KL and Cersei is all they killed our son, you're back, avenge him, kiss me, no not here, oh, ok. I think they where trying to give that impression but the mixed up timeline made it come off as rape.
It really pissed me off since Jamie's character is becoming likable at this point in both the books and the show. This scene in the books makes you realize Jamie loves her more than she does him and you start to feel a little bad for him too. This portrayal makes you feel a little bad for Cersei even though she's well on her way to psychopath town.
Pretty much what I got out of it. I didn't see it as all that rapey, just messed up and gross all around. It might be due to the fact that I've been desensitized to rape from the numerous brutal rapes that I've seen while watching this show. Jamie and Cersei doing their best Targaryen impression didn't really compete.
Post by: nicname on April 27, 2014, 11:05:20 PM
I think our love for Tyrion blinds us to how weird the rest of the Lannisters are
Haha, no. There is hope for Tommen (who with Jeff and their sis, I consider to be Lannisters). Tyrion is great. Jamie has some very redeeming qualities, but he's still weird AF. Cersei and Tywin are completely despicable bad people. Any positives in their makeup is almost negligible. They're great characters though.
Post by: nicname on April 27, 2014, 11:07:08 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 27, 2014, 11:38:32 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 27, 2014, 11:56:19 PM
Post by: nicname on April 27, 2014, 11:59:57 PM
I don't like killing babies. That part sucked. The rest of the episode was pretty great.
I don't remember any baby being killed.
Post by: nicname on April 28, 2014, 12:04:27 AM
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2014, 08:00:09 AM
Post by: OK_Cat on April 28, 2014, 08:02:56 AM
who were those dudes that caught bran? just a subset of wildings? or were they former night's watch dudes that quit?
they were the night's watch guys that killed the night's watch leader guy and the old incest guy. jon snow has been referring to them as "mutineers"
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2014, 08:09:21 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on April 28, 2014, 08:09:47 AM
is that who jon was recruiting guys to go find near the end of last night?
Yes.
Post by: OK_Cat on April 28, 2014, 08:10:04 AM
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2014, 08:15:38 AM
Post by: TownieCat on April 28, 2014, 08:19:07 AM
I don't like killing babies. That part sucked. The rest of the episode was pretty great.
I don't remember any baby being killed.
The last scene made me think... In all of the zombie movies or shows ever made, has there been a baby or child zombie? Because that is pretty much what happened. And that raises a lot of questions, mainly how do they grow?
Post by: _33 on April 28, 2014, 08:21:21 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 28, 2014, 08:23:24 AM
I don't like killing babies. That part sucked. The rest of the episode was pretty great.
I don't remember any baby being killed.
The last scene made me think... In all of the zombie movies or shows ever made, has there been a baby or child zombie? Because that is pretty much what happened. And that raises a lot of questions, mainly how do they grow?
The Walking Dead had a child zombie getting brained in the very opening scene of its first episode. It had another child zombie in season 2.
Post by: TownieCat on April 28, 2014, 08:26:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLSyfeui0sQ
Oh man, this was absolutely wonderful... :thumbs:
Post by: AppleJack on April 28, 2014, 08:45:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLSyfeui0sQ
Fall is coming :love:
Post by: joda on April 28, 2014, 09:23:55 AM
who were those dudes that caught bran? just a subset of wildings? or were they former night's watch dudes that quit?
they were the night's watch guys that killed the night's watch leader guy and the old incest guy. jon snow has been referring to them as "mutineers"
It seems like a really dumb added storyline. Like making a lot of people say really dumb things. Like oh man we can totally sneak one by on former NW member Mance Rayder as long as these guys don't tell him anything. And I think my little bro who I thought was dead but evidently is alive, which must have been a major revolution and would have been great tv but wasn't shown at all, will go running to some wildlings for help.
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 28, 2014, 11:54:24 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 28, 2014, 11:56:19 AM
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 28, 2014, 11:56:20 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 28, 2014, 11:56:57 AM
They wouldn't do that, would they?
Post by: AppleJack on April 28, 2014, 12:00:37 PM
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 28, 2014, 12:06:25 PM
What if they kill Hodor? :horrorsurprise:
They wouldn't do that, would they?
That would be terrible :(
Post by: joda on April 28, 2014, 12:29:52 PM
@joda, have you read the books?
Yes. I have other issues with those scenes from a book to TV sense. But I'm alright with those. What bothered me is that is that it wasn't a very well thought out plot line.
Post by: Mr Bread on April 28, 2014, 12:32:38 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 28, 2014, 12:49:16 PM
@joda, have you read the books?
Yes. I have other issues with those scenes from a book to TV sense. But I'm alright with those. What bothered me is that is that it wasn't a very well thought out plot line.
I'm speculating that a certain mysterious character from the books, who has yet to appear in the show, is going to show up at Craster's Keep before Jon gets a chance to see Bran. I don't see another option without completely veering off from the story line.
I'm interested to see what they are doing with Locke. The book character he is largely based on (Vargo Hoat) never made it north of Harrenhal and I can't think of another role that they would be combining it with.
Post by: michigancat on April 28, 2014, 12:55:46 PM
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 28, 2014, 01:05:57 PM
@joda, have you read the books?
Yes. I have other issues with those scenes from a book to TV sense. But I'm alright with those. What bothered me is that is that it wasn't a very well thought out plot line.
I'm speculating that a certain mysterious character from the books, who has yet to appear in the show, is going to show up at Craster's Keep before Jon gets a chance to see Bran. I don't see another option without completely veering off from the story line.
I'm interested to see what they are doing with Locke. The book character he is largely based on (Vargo Hoat) never made it north of Harrenhal and I can't think of another role that they would be combining it with.
I was going to ask someone ITK about that. I can't tell if his place there is sinister or not.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 28, 2014, 01:12:47 PM
I can't tell if his place there is sinister or not.
:lol:
Post by: Benja on April 28, 2014, 01:37:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLSyfeui0sQ
lol. awesome.
Post by: joda on April 28, 2014, 01:42:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLSyfeui0sQ
lol. awesome.
Yes, pretty great
Post by: joda on April 28, 2014, 01:47:12 PM
@joda, have you read the books?
Yes. I have other issues with those scenes from a book to TV sense. But I'm alright with those. What bothered me is that is that it wasn't a very well thought out plot line.
I'm speculating that a certain mysterious character from the books, who has yet to appear in the show, is going to show up at Craster's Keep before Jon gets a chance to see Bran. I don't see another option without completely veering off from the story line.
I'm interested to see what they are doing with Locke. The book character he is largely based on (Vargo Hoat) never made it north of Harrenhal and I can't think of another role that they would be combining it with.
Maybe, I thought they where probably just going to leave said mysterious character out altogether but yea, that might work. Even if they do it's still a poorly done plot line. Not necessarily the concept, but the way it's being done is pretty terrible. Maybe I'm just jaded though because of how horribly they handled the Jon/Sam/Bran dynamic.
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2014, 03:07:46 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 28, 2014, 04:38:44 PM
@joda, have you read the books?
Yes. I have other issues with those scenes from a book to TV sense. But I'm alright with those. What bothered me is that is that it wasn't a very well thought out plot line.
I'm speculating that a certain mysterious character from the books, who has yet to appear in the show, is going to show up at Craster's Keep before Jon gets a chance to see Bran. I don't see another option without completely veering off from the story line.
I'm interested to see what they are doing with Locke. The book character he is largely based on (Vargo Hoat) never made it north of Harrenhal and I can't think of another role that they would be combining it with.
That certain character has not been cast yet, so it would be surprising if they showed up (however a certain "friend" of that character has been cast, so maybe...)
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 28, 2014, 04:44:30 PM
I can't tell if his place there is sinister or not.
:lol:
But I cant. :dunno:
Post by: puniraptor on April 28, 2014, 04:45:33 PM
I can't tell if his place there is sinister or not.
:lol:
But I cant. :dunno:
he was sent to kill the stark boys and is hanging around jon snow to get his chance. sinister is subjective of course.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 28, 2014, 06:52:40 PM
Post by: TownieCat on April 28, 2014, 07:16:22 PM
So apparently the White Walker storyline has already advanced farther than the books. It will be nice when more of that happens. Still think it was super mean to abandon and then kill that baby, though. This show has a real baby killing problem. Otherwise it's awesome.
Did the baby die, or did it morph into a WW? Seems to be a difference...
Post by: puniraptor on April 28, 2014, 08:05:18 PM
So apparently the White Walker storyline has already advanced farther than the books. It will be nice when more of that happens. Still think it was super mean to abandon and then kill that baby, though. This show has a real baby killing problem. Otherwise it's awesome.
Did the baby die, or did it morph into a WW? Seems to be a difference...
This show kills a lot of babies, but this wasn't one of them. I have no doubt this baby will have a better life with the WWs than those murdery raperly pervos.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 28, 2014, 08:11:03 PM
So apparently the White Walker storyline has already advanced farther than the books. It will be nice when more of that happens. Still think it was super mean to abandon and then kill that baby, though. This show has a real baby killing problem. Otherwise it's awesome.
Did the baby die, or did it morph into a WW? Seems to be a difference...
This show kills a lot of babies, but this wasn't one of them. I have no doubt this baby will have a better life with the WWs than those murdery raperly pervos.
I don't know, if I were the baby I think I'd opt for the murdery rapey pervos. Seems like a quick death would be better than becoming an ice zombie. Besides, Jon Snow is about to kick some rapey ass, I think.
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 28, 2014, 08:12:48 PM
@joda, have you read the books?
Yes. I have other issues with those scenes from a book to TV sense. But I'm alright with those. What bothered me is that is that it wasn't a very well thought out plot line.
I'm speculating that a certain mysterious character from the books, who has yet to appear in the show, is going to show up at Craster's Keep before Jon gets a chance to see Bran. I don't see another option without completely veering off from the story line.
I'm interested to see what they are doing with Locke. The book character he is largely based on (Vargo Hoat) never made it north of Harrenhal and I can't think of another role that they would be combining it with.
That certain character has not been cast yet, so it would be surprising if they showed up (however a certain "friend" of that character has been cast, so maybe...)
PM me or text me. I don't know what you're talking about. I doubt they would announce that they cast the character that I have in mind.
Post by: mocat on April 28, 2014, 08:26:47 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on April 28, 2014, 08:50:31 PM
@joda, have you read the books?
Yes. I have other issues with those scenes from a book to TV sense. But I'm alright with those. What bothered me is that is that it wasn't a very well thought out plot line.
I'm speculating that a certain mysterious character from the books, who has yet to appear in the show, is going to show up at Craster's Keep before Jon gets a chance to see Bran. I don't see another option without completely veering off from the story line.
I'm interested to see what they are doing with Locke. The book character he is largely based on (Vargo Hoat) never made it north of Harrenhal and I can't think of another role that they would be combining it with.
That certain character has not been cast yet, so it would be surprising if they showed up (however a certain "friend" of that character has been cast, so maybe...)
PM me or text me. I don't know what you're talking about. I doubt they would announce that they cast the character that I have in mind.
Bloodraven has been cast.
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2014, 08:56:43 PM
Post by: joda on April 28, 2014, 09:09:27 PM
@joda, have you read the books?
Yes. I have other issues with those scenes from a book to TV sense. But I'm alright with those. What bothered me is that is that it wasn't a very well thought out plot line.
I'm speculating that a certain mysterious character from the books, who has yet to appear in the show, is going to show up at Craster's Keep before Jon gets a chance to see Bran. I don't see another option without completely veering off from the story line.
I'm interested to see what they are doing with Locke. The book character he is largely based on (Vargo Hoat) never made it north of Harrenhal and I can't think of another role that they would be combining it with.
That certain character has not been cast yet, so it would be surprising if they showed up (however a certain "friend" of that character has been cast, so maybe...)
PM me or text me. I don't know what you're talking about. I doubt they would announce that they cast the character that I have in mind.
Bloodraven has been cast.
Who's Bloodraven? (Not serious, but seems like a good topic for the new book AND show thread)
Post by: WonderMeal on April 28, 2014, 09:20:08 PM
In other news, if any of you have long commutes or do a lot of dishes, there's a podcast called Cast of Thrones that is decent. It does a good job of not spoiling anything (unlike Known Ruiner of Fun Joda) and is mildly entertaining. It's PG-13, though, so don't listen to it around the little ones.
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 28, 2014, 09:28:28 PM
@joda, have you read the books?
Yes. I have other issues with those scenes from a book to TV sense. But I'm alright with those. What bothered me is that is that it wasn't a very well thought out plot line.
I'm speculating that a certain mysterious character from the books, who has yet to appear in the show, is going to show up at Craster's Keep before Jon gets a chance to see Bran. I don't see another option without completely veering off from the story line.
I'm interested to see what they are doing with Locke. The book character he is largely based on (Vargo Hoat) never made it north of Harrenhal and I can't think of another role that they would be combining it with.
That certain character has not been cast yet, so it would be surprising if they showed up (however a certain "friend" of that character has been cast, so maybe...)
PM me or text me. I don't know what you're talking about. I doubt they would announce that they cast the character that I have in mind.
Bloodraven has been cast.
I can't really reply to this without spoiling anything. I think you and @seven are likely right, but that's really just speculation.
Post by: joda on April 28, 2014, 09:29:37 PM
Hey @joda, I'm not going to PM =Mods?= and RowdyBoyy to ban you from this thread just yet, but good grief. If you find yourself posting in this thread and you think about typing the word "book" in any way, or if you think about mentioning someone who hasn't appeared in the TV show, just don't post. No one in this thread wants to read about what's happening in the books. Zip it. #Team #Clams
In other news, if any of you have long commutes or do a lot of dishes, there's a podcast called Cast of Thrones that is decent. It does a good job of not spoiling anything (unlike Known Ruiner of Fun Joda) and is mildly entertaining. It's PG-13, though, so don't listen to it around the little ones.
Hey dumbfuck, how bout you learn to read
Post by: WonderMeal on April 28, 2014, 09:34:53 PM
Hey dumbfuck, how bout you learn to read
:runaway: =MODS?=! RowdyBoyy! :runaway:
Hey, Known Bad Poster Joda--here are two threads you would probably like:
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=32044.msg1103285#msg1103285
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=25407.msg1087186#msg1087186
Post by: joda on April 28, 2014, 09:37:57 PM
Hey dumbfuck, how bout you learn to read
:runaway: =MODS?=! RowdyBoyy! :runaway:
Hey, Known Bad Poster Joda--here are two threads you would probably like:
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=32044.msg1103285#msg1103285
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=25407.msg1087186#msg1087186
Oh hey, look who started that first one you linked and was encouraging moving the discussion there. Again learn to read.
Post by: Benja on April 28, 2014, 09:47:37 PM
Post by: puniraptor on April 28, 2014, 10:06:15 PM
Alright, let's lighten the mood with a little racial humor. Is it racist that the only black guy in GOT is a pirate (the gangbangers of the medieval times)?
The qarth ponzi schemer was a black guy.
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 28, 2014, 10:18:37 PM
So is Grey Worm, since they mentioned he was from the Summer Isles in the last episode (Which is where black people are from in ASOIAF canon)Alright, let's lighten the mood with a little racial humor. Is it racist that the only black guy in GOT is a pirate (the gangbangers of the medieval times)?
The qarth ponzi schemer was a black guy.
Post by: Benja on April 28, 2014, 10:20:15 PM
So is Grey Worm, since they mentioned he was from the Summer Isles in the last episode (Which is where black people are from in ASOIAF canon)Alright, let's lighten the mood with a little racial humor. Is it racist that the only black guy in GOT is a pirate (the gangbangers of the medieval times)?
The qarth ponzi schemer was a black guy.
Aww yes. Forgot about grey worm. great guy, that grey worm.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 28, 2014, 11:07:10 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 28, 2014, 11:11:26 PM
Speaking of the Unsullied - what's the deal? Seems like castration would seriously reduce testosterone and not be a good thing for soldiers. Right?Its why they are dispatched in groups. A single Unsullied might be slender and have a beautiful singing voice, and match poorly in a 1:1 fight, a group of them fighting in a disciplined fashion is far more formidable than a collection of brawlers.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 29, 2014, 08:43:58 AM
Post by: TownieCat on April 29, 2014, 08:51:40 AM
Why hasn't anyone mentioned Ser Pounce yet? :love:
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:love: :love: :love: :love: :love:
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 29, 2014, 08:58:49 AM
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 29, 2014, 09:01:40 AM
Why the eff is there 2 GOT threads? Time to do some spring cleaning, flip a coin and delete one.
JFC, there's 3. :curse:
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 29, 2014, 09:13:13 AM
Book people, Show People, and Combo People can't get along.Why the eff is there 2 GOT threads? Time to do some spring cleaning, flip a coin and delete one.
JFC, there's 3. :curse:
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 29, 2014, 09:21:40 AM
Why the eff is there 2 GOT threads? Time to do some spring cleaning, flip a coin and delete one.
JFC, there's 3. :curse:
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Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 29, 2014, 09:22:23 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 29, 2014, 09:25:45 AM
So annoying. 3 rough ridin' threads. GTFO.
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Post by: Belvis Noland on April 29, 2014, 09:31:07 AM
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 29, 2014, 10:53:06 AM
Why hasn't anyone mentioned Ser Pounce yet? :love:
Or more importantly Margaery seducing a small child? I really enjoyed that Old Lady Tyrell basically admitted to killing Joff then told Margaery about how great she used to be in the sack.
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 29, 2014, 11:00:51 AM
Why hasn't anyone mentioned Ser Pounce yet? :love:
Or more importantly Margaery seducing a small child? I really enjoyed that Old Lady Tyrell basically admitted to killing Joff then told Margaery about how great she used to be in the sack.
the tyrell ladies are incredibly smart. tommen is ~12 in the tv universe. also, refer to her as the queen of thornes or lady olenna.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 29, 2014, 11:22:21 AM
Post by: TownieCat on April 29, 2014, 11:30:12 AM
I don't think Marg was seducing Tommen per se. She was just manipulating a 12 year old boy. She only kissed him on the forehead. More like a big sister that he might be a little bit attracted to.....
I anticipate Marg being nothing but a tease to Tommen. This show has more class than to show a young woman actually performing sex acts with an adolescent boy.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 29, 2014, 11:33:44 AM
I don't think Marg was seducing Tommen per se. She was just manipulating a 12 year old boy. She only kissed him on the forehead. More like a big sister that he might be a little bit attracted to.....
I remember what it was like to be 12. . .with a sexy woman right in front of you. . .what she did was equivalent to seduction.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 29, 2014, 11:41:19 AM
I don't think Marg was seducing Tommen per se. She was just manipulating a 12 year old boy. She only kissed him on the forehead. More like a big sister that he might be a little bit attracted to.....
You are talking about a Lannister. It hardly matters that she's like a sister.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 29, 2014, 11:54:07 AM
:lol: GOT EM!I don't think Marg was seducing Tommen per se. She was just manipulating a 12 year old boy. She only kissed him on the forehead. More like a big sister that he might be a little bit attracted to.....
You are talking about a Lannister. It hardly matters that she's like a sister.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 29, 2014, 12:43:25 PM
I don't think Marg was seducing Tommen per se. She was just manipulating a 12 year old boy. She only kissed him on the forehead. More like a big sister that he might be a little bit attracted to.....
You are talking about a Lannister. It hardly matters that she's like a sister.
Well yeah, obviously. But she's not going to try to have sex with him any time soon.
Post by: Gooch on April 29, 2014, 01:02:26 PM
Why hasn't anyone mentioned Ser Pounce yet? :love:Never noticed the Cat. Was to busy staring at the hot red head.
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 29, 2014, 03:26:23 PM
Why hasn't anyone mentioned Ser Pounce yet? :love:Never noticed the Cat. Was to busy staring at the hot red head.
I don't blame you.
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 29, 2014, 05:59:53 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on April 29, 2014, 06:18:48 PM
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 29, 2014, 09:01:48 PM
Shut upyeah! Don't be hating on her!
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 29, 2014, 10:23:00 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 30, 2014, 03:52:22 AM
Post by: TownieCat on April 30, 2014, 11:18:48 AM
She's surprisingly not that good looking for this show. In real life, a solid 8, but by hot actress standards, not so much. Her eyes are kinda off for starters.
Women are not numbers, bad person.
Post by: Gooch on April 30, 2014, 11:22:21 AM
All 10's!She's surprisingly not that good looking for this show. In real life, a solid 8, but by hot actress standards, not so much. Her eyes are kinda off for starters.
Women are not numbers, bad person.
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 30, 2014, 11:24:40 AM
Post by: Benja on May 04, 2014, 05:33:28 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on May 04, 2014, 09:23:28 PM
Post by: TownieCat on May 04, 2014, 10:34:21 PM
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Post by: Asteriskhead on May 04, 2014, 11:56:22 PM
Pretty meh episode.
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You're wrong. That was a fantastic episode, some very important things took place.
Post by: TownieCat on May 05, 2014, 08:52:57 AM
Pretty meh episode.
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You're wrong. That was a fantastic episode, some very important things took place.
I understand that not every episode is action-packed and some have to lay the foundation for more exciting episodes. This seemed to be the latter. It was important for the future of the series, but at the moment it just left me feeling meh.
Also, the past few weeks have had pretty intense endings/cliffhangers. Seeing Craster's Keep go up in flames was not the same as watching a baby turning into a WW or Khaleesi launching 1000s of slave collars to start a rebellion.
The preview for next week looks pretty entertaining, tho! :excited:
Post by: pissclams on May 05, 2014, 09:21:34 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 05, 2014, 09:24:05 AM
why did bran not hook up with the bastard jon snow?
Jon would prevent him from finding the three eyed raven, which is Bran's purpose. Bran has to continue north.
Post by: OK_Cat on May 05, 2014, 09:32:06 AM
Post by: joda on May 05, 2014, 09:48:53 AM
Seemed pretty significant that it was revealed baelish was behind poisoning jon arryn at the beginning of the series, since that is the reason for everything that has happened so far.
Probably the most significant moment of the episode
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 05, 2014, 10:06:06 AM
This episode moved a lot of plot lines forward in interesting ways. Great episode and I don't think it even featured a single spoken word by Jaime or Tyrion. All the more amazing. No dead babies is also a plus.
Post by: puniraptor on May 05, 2014, 10:12:14 AM
Fantastic episode. The scenes with Brianne and the squire were awesome. Cersei and Marg was awesome. You know Cersei's too crazy to just fold like that. Crazy Aunt Liza was awesome. Just when you think she's not totally crazy, wham, that chick is crazy. And she and Little Finger conspired to set the whole sequence in motion? Awesome. Aria and the Hound? Best interactions yet. Jon Snow kicking ass. Also starting to learn more about the Iron Bank.
This episode moved a lot of plot lines forward in interesting ways. Great episode and I don't think it even featured a single spoken word by Jaime or Tyrion. All the more amazing. No dead babies is also a plus.
locke character cashing out so quickly made that part seem like alot of wasted effort
Post by: OK_Cat on May 05, 2014, 10:16:44 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 05, 2014, 10:23:42 AM
Fantastic episode. The scenes with Brianne and the squire were awesome. Cersei and Marg was awesome. You know Cersei's too crazy to just fold like that. Crazy Aunt Liza was awesome. Just when you think she's not totally crazy, wham, that chick is crazy. And she and Little Finger conspired to set the whole sequence in motion? Awesome. Aria and the Hound? Best interactions yet. Jon Snow kicking ass. Also starting to learn more about the Iron Bank.
This episode moved a lot of plot lines forward in interesting ways. Great episode and I don't think it even featured a single spoken word by Jaime or Tyrion. All the more amazing. No dead babies is also a plus.
locke character cashing out so quickly made that part seem like alot of wasted effort
Agreed. Seems like a waste of a pretty good character and plot line, but oh well, Bran continues in his quest, which is probably the least interesting story line but at least they're not spending much time on it. Ultimately, I'm assuming his story line is going to intersect with the WWs in an interesting way.
Post by: mocat on May 05, 2014, 10:46:02 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 05, 2014, 10:55:50 AM
Bran's storyline is a complete snoozefest and then a total LOLWTF why are the books getting more complicated instead of starting to get wrapped up type moment thing
This is the non-book thread. The show isn't wasting much time on it. Ultimately, I think it will be pretty interesting. I suspect the WWs might be sending Bran and the others the visions, for good or bad.
Post by: puniraptor on May 05, 2014, 10:56:18 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 05, 2014, 11:00:36 AM
Post by: TownieCat on May 05, 2014, 11:11:07 AM
This thread irritates me.
You belong in the book thread and/or the book & show thread. :th_twocents:
Post by: puniraptor on May 05, 2014, 11:26:02 AM
This thread irritates me.
intolerance
Post by: SabiNation on May 05, 2014, 11:41:13 AM
Post by: nicname on May 05, 2014, 11:59:06 AM
Seemed pretty significant that it was revealed baelish was behind poisoning jon arryn at the beginning of the series, since that is the reason for everything that has happened so far.
I was like, "well, holy crap," when that happened. I also noticed how disgusting Lysa's teeth were. gross.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 05, 2014, 12:01:20 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 05, 2014, 12:33:05 PM
This thread irritates me.
intolerance
Yea, I guess I'm intolerant of stupidity. "Hey, there's this really cool story that I'm interested in. I would really like to know more about everything that is going on. I'm pretty sure there's a whole series of books out there that would fulfill my desires, but I'm going to get on the internet and speculate about what it going on, rather than reading the information and getting the answers that I seek."
Post by: puniraptor on May 05, 2014, 12:42:01 PM
This thread irritates me.
intolerance
Yea, I guess I'm intolerant of stupidity. "Hey, there's this really cool story that I'm interested in. I would really like to know more about everything that is going on. I'm pretty sure there's a whole series of books out there that would fulfill my desires, but I'm going to get on the internet and speculate about what it going on, rather than reading the information and getting the answers that I seek."
sounds like you are intolerant of speculation
I don't what to be told what happens, but I do want to speculate what happens.
just like if we were watching an original show with no source materials.
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 05, 2014, 12:53:12 PM
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on May 05, 2014, 12:55:59 PM
This thread irritates me.
You belong in the book thread and/or the book & show thread. :th_twocents:
The fact that this overrated piece of crap show has 3 threads infuriates me beyond belief.
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 05, 2014, 12:57:51 PM
This thread irritates me.
You belong in the book thread and/or the book & show thread. :th_twocents:
The fact that this overrated piece of crap show has 3 threads infuriates me beyond belief.
I'd prefer to have the show thread nuked. These lazy, stupid and irrational TV show only rubes can get bent.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2014, 01:02:21 PM
How is speculation fun? The answers are there to be had. "I wonder what 2 + 2 is? I could put in a little work and figure out the answer, but I'm going to go with 8 and we'll figure out if it's right or not when the teacher hands back the exam."
Could be 3, 4, or 5.
Post by: puniraptor on May 05, 2014, 01:04:06 PM
How is speculation fun? The answers are there to be had. "I wonder what 2 + 2 is? I could put in a little work and figure out the answer, but I'm going to go with 8 and we'll figure out if it's right or not when the teacher hands back the exam."
It's pretty much all we do here? How them batcats gonna do? how the roundball cats gonna do? how is daniel sams going to win the heisman? how are the gridiron cats going to bring home the crystal ball?
same thing with this work of fiction, but not comparable to addition.
what if the books never existed? would you be hunting for the leaked screenplays to find out what happens?
DIFFERENT WORLD VIEWS I GUESS
Post by: Benja on May 05, 2014, 01:07:49 PM
How is speculation fun?
I get what you're saying, but you just asked how is speculation fun on a frickin' message board.
Post by: Benja on May 05, 2014, 01:09:43 PM
Seemed pretty significant that it was revealed baelish was behind poisoning jon arryn at the beginning of the series, since that is the reason for everything that has happened so far.
holy crap I almost forgot about that.
Post by: OK_Cat on May 05, 2014, 01:12:31 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 05, 2014, 01:14:37 PM
Speculate all you want about events, fictional and IRL, that have not taken place yet. That's fine. I participate in that activity myself.
The fact is, the answers to these questions that are being asked are out there, but some would rather grasp at straws than actually obtain the answer.
Nothing has been done to refute my claims that you TV show only people are lazy and irrational.
Post by: pissclams on May 05, 2014, 01:19:20 PM
My point is, speculation, when the answer exists, is a waste.
Speculate all you want about events, fictional and IRL, that have not taken place yet. That's fine. I participate in that activity myself.
The fact is, the answers to these questions that are being asked are out there, but some would rather grasp at straws than actually obtain the answer.
Nothing has been done to refute my claims that you TV show only people are lazy and irrational.
that's fine but the reality is that there's a lot of us on the board that just don't know how to read. live your life, take things for granted, but never assume that I nor anyone else here can read because that's just a complete bullshit thing to do.
Post by: puniraptor on May 05, 2014, 01:21:19 PM
My point is, speculation, when the answer exists, is a waste.
Speculate all you want about events, fictional and IRL, that have not taken place yet. That's fine. I participate in that activity myself.
The fact is, the answers to these questions that are being asked are out there, but some would rather grasp at straws than actually obtain the answer.
Nothing has been done to refute my claims that you TV show only people are lazy and irrational.
I believe the entertainment from a work of fiction comes from experiencing it, just like most life things. It's not a math problem, or any kind of problem.
Post by: puniraptor on May 05, 2014, 01:22:00 PM
My point is, speculation, when the answer exists, is a waste.
Speculate all you want about events, fictional and IRL, that have not taken place yet. That's fine. I participate in that activity myself.
The fact is, the answers to these questions that are being asked are out there, but some would rather grasp at straws than actually obtain the answer.
Nothing has been done to refute my claims that you TV show only people are lazy and irrational.
that's fine but the reality is that there's a lot of us on the board that just don't know how to read. live your life, take things for granted, but never assume that I nor anyone else here can read because that's just complete bullshit of a thing to do.
oh yeah, also I'm illiterate. Thanks for making me feel like crap about it, MH.
Post by: nicname on May 05, 2014, 01:23:15 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 05, 2014, 01:24:19 PM
That's a pretty tall horse you're riding on Metalhead.
I'm prejudiced against short ones.
Post by: Benja on May 05, 2014, 01:25:59 PM
Post by: puniraptor on May 05, 2014, 01:28:38 PM
Quick, everyone start speculating like crazy
i think bran will start warging people AND dragons and it will be wild
i think jon and ygrit will do it again
i think petry will kill lyza
Post by: Benja on May 05, 2014, 01:29:44 PM
Quick, everyone start speculating like crazy
i think bran will start warging people AND dragons and it will be wild
i think jon and ygrit will do it again
i think petry will kill lyza
HOLY crap I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT WARGING DRAGONS
Post by: puniraptor on May 05, 2014, 01:31:35 PM
Quick, everyone start speculating like crazy
i think bran will start warging people AND dragons and it will be wild
i think jon and ygrit will do it again
i think petry will kill lyza
HOLY crap I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT WARGING DRAGONS
also since he can warg hodor giant wang then he will probably warg the giants partying with mance's army too at some point
Post by: Benja on May 05, 2014, 01:32:31 PM
Quick, everyone start speculating like crazy
i think bran will start warging people AND dragons and it will be wild
i think jon and ygrit will do it again
i think petry will kill lyza
HOLY crap I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT WARGING DRAGONS
also since he can warg hodor giant wang then he will probably warg the giants partying with mance's army too at some point
HOLY crap I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT WARGING GIANTS
Post by: puniraptor on May 05, 2014, 01:34:34 PM
Quick, everyone start speculating like crazy
i think bran will start warging people AND dragons and it will be wild
i think jon and ygrit will do it again
i think petry will kill lyza
HOLY crap I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT WARGING DRAGONS
also since he can warg hodor giant wang then he will probably warg the giants partying with mance's army too at some point
HOLY crap I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT WARGING GIANTS
can he warg fish? they would never have to worry about food, he could just warg a fish and have it jump up onto shore and they can chow down
Post by: Benja on May 05, 2014, 01:39:32 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 05, 2014, 01:40:44 PM
My point is, speculation, when the answer exists, is a waste.
Speculate all you want about events, fictional and IRL, that have not taken place yet. That's fine. I participate in that activity myself.
The fact is, the answers to these questions that are being asked are out there, but some would rather grasp at straws than actually obtain the answer.
Nothing has been done to refute my claims that you TV show only people are lazy and irrational.
I believe the entertainment from a work of fiction comes from experiencing it, just like most life things. It's not a math problem, or any kind of problem.
You're describing a show watcher who takes the product at face value and then drops it until the next episode. An information problem appears once the show watcher starts to ask questions about plot points. Normally, this information problem would exist until a future episode is aired that resolves the issue, but, in this case, the information is already published and readily available for consumption.
I wouldn't criticize anyone for keeping these questions to themselves, as then it is their own personal mystery to solve. I get frustrated when show watchers want to make their musings public and then expect not to get an answer. What's the purpose of asking a question if you don't want the answer?
Post by: Mr Bread on May 05, 2014, 01:40:55 PM
Post by: Benja on May 05, 2014, 01:42:43 PM
My point is, speculation, when the answer exists, is a waste.
Speculate all you want about events, fictional and IRL, that have not taken place yet. That's fine. I participate in that activity myself.
The fact is, the answers to these questions that are being asked are out there, but some would rather grasp at straws than actually obtain the answer.
Nothing has been done to refute my claims that you TV show only people are lazy and irrational.
I believe the entertainment from a work of fiction comes from experiencing it, just like most life things. It's not a math problem, or any kind of problem.
You're describing a show watcher who takes the product at face value and then drops it until the next episode. An information problem appears once the show watcher starts to ask questions about plot points. Normally, this information problem would exist until a future episode is aired that resolves the issue, but, in this case, the information is already published and readily available for consumption.
I wouldn't criticize anyone for keeping these questions to themselves, as then it is their own personal mystery to solve. I get frustrated when show watchers want to make their musings public and then expect not to get an answer. What's the purpose of asking a question if you don't want the answer?
You're assuming that some people don't enjoy the unknown.
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 05, 2014, 01:44:48 PM
My point is, speculation, when the answer exists, is a waste.
Speculate all you want about events, fictional and IRL, that have not taken place yet. That's fine. I participate in that activity myself.
The fact is, the answers to these questions that are being asked are out there, but some would rather grasp at straws than actually obtain the answer.
Nothing has been done to refute my claims that you TV show only people are lazy and irrational.
I believe the entertainment from a work of fiction comes from experiencing it, just like most life things. It's not a math problem, or any kind of problem.
You're describing a show watcher who takes the product at face value and then drops it until the next episode. An information problem appears once the show watcher starts to ask questions about plot points. Normally, this information problem would exist until a future episode is aired that resolves the issue, but, in this case, the information is already published and readily available for consumption.
I wouldn't criticize anyone for keeping these questions to themselves, as then it is their own personal mystery to solve. I get frustrated when show watchers want to make their musings public and then expect not to get an answer. What's the purpose of asking a question if you don't want the answer?
You're assuming that some people don't enjoy the unknown.
:buh-bye:
Post by: puniraptor on May 05, 2014, 01:44:55 PM
What's the purpose of asking a question if you don't want the answer?
I think my purpose is to speculate with people working off the same data set as myself, for fun.
Post by: Mr Bread on May 05, 2014, 01:46:02 PM
What's the purpose of asking a question if you don't want the answer?
I think my purpose is to speculate with people working off the same data set as myself, for fun.
What do the white walkers want? No one knows that.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 05, 2014, 01:47:40 PM
What's the purpose of asking a question if you don't want the answer?
I think my purpose is to speculate with people working off the same data set as myself, for fun.
What do the white walkers want? No one knows that.
I think they want to kill the Red Lady's Fire God. Whoever that may be.
Post by: Benja on May 05, 2014, 01:49:58 PM
What's the purpose of asking a question if you don't want the answer?
I think my purpose is to speculate with people working off the same data set as myself, for fun.
What do the white walkers want? No one knows that.
no one is even asking. that's the first thing I'd do, be like hey, can we figure something out here?
Post by: Mr Bread on May 05, 2014, 01:51:42 PM
What's the purpose of asking a question if you don't want the answer?
I think my purpose is to speculate with people working off the same data set as myself, for fun.
What do the white walkers want? No one knows that.
I think they want to kill the Red Lady's Fire God. Whoever that may be.
Why? Fire melts snow so they hate it?
Post by: Mr Bread on May 05, 2014, 01:52:13 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 05, 2014, 01:53:18 PM
What's the purpose of asking a question if you don't want the answer?
I think my purpose is to speculate with people working off the same data set as myself, for fun.
What do the white walkers want? No one knows that.
I think they want to kill the Red Lady's Fire God. Whoever that may be.
Why? Fire melts snow so they hate it?
Yeah. The series is called a Song of Ice and Fire, after all.
Post by: puniraptor on May 05, 2014, 01:55:44 PM
I think they are misunderstood and are just trying to look out for themselves.
I think probly something like this.
As a group, they are probably the best people anyhow.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 05, 2014, 01:57:24 PM
I think they are misunderstood and are just trying to look out for themselves.
I think probly something like this.
As a group, they are probably the best people anyhow.
Maybe. They aren't as cool as the Dornish people, but they might be better.
Post by: puniraptor on May 05, 2014, 02:03:59 PM
I think they are misunderstood and are just trying to look out for themselves.
I think probly something like this.
As a group, they are probably the best people anyhow.
Maybe. They aren't as cool as the Dornish people, but they might be better.
that dude who just wants to bang and kill everyone is pretty damn cool
dissappointed that there is no Mountain action yet.
speculation: prince banger gets to one on one combat the mountain to settle their debt
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2014, 02:10:52 PM
Post by: puniraptor on May 05, 2014, 02:16:14 PM
I like to see what people are speculating when they haven't read the books. :dunno:
it's fun, right? (!)
Post by: joda on May 05, 2014, 02:17:22 PM
I like to see what people are speculating when they haven't read the books. :dunno:
It's really quite entertaining
I also love some of the name spellings
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2014, 02:21:38 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on May 05, 2014, 02:30:18 PM
Post by: nicname on May 05, 2014, 03:21:16 PM
My point is, speculation, when the answer exists, is a waste.
Speculate all you want about events, fictional and IRL, that have not taken place yet. That's fine. I participate in that activity myself.
The fact is, the answers to these questions that are being asked are out there, but some would rather grasp at straws than actually obtain the answer.
Nothing has been done to refute my claims that you TV show only people are lazy and irrational.
I believe the entertainment from a work of fiction comes from experiencing it, just like most life things. It's not a math problem, or any kind of problem.
You're describing a show watcher who takes the product at face value and then drops it until the next episode. An information problem appears once the show watcher starts to ask questions about plot points. Normally, this information problem would exist until a future episode is aired that resolves the issue, but, in this case, the information is already published and readily available for consumption.
I wouldn't criticize anyone for keeping these questions to themselves, as then it is their own personal mystery to solve. I get frustrated when show watchers want to make their musings public and then expect not to get an answer. What's the purpose of asking a question if you don't want the answer?
You're assuming that some people don't enjoy the unknown.
:buh-bye:
To me what you're talking about is like someone who watches replays of Cats games on ESPN3 because they are unable to watch the games live. They could easily search for articles on the web or watch a highlight show to know the answer. Your beef would come from said person deciding to go on twitter or some other social media platform and speculate about "hoping the Cats will win" or "hoping Jamar can go with his gimpy ankle," but not wanting people to tell them what happened in the game.
Love the new avi, BTW.
Post by: Benja on May 05, 2014, 04:30:27 PM
My point is, speculation, when the answer exists, is a waste.
Speculate all you want about events, fictional and IRL, that have not taken place yet. That's fine. I participate in that activity myself.
The fact is, the answers to these questions that are being asked are out there, but some would rather grasp at straws than actually obtain the answer.
Nothing has been done to refute my claims that you TV show only people are lazy and irrational.
I believe the entertainment from a work of fiction comes from experiencing it, just like most life things. It's not a math problem, or any kind of problem.
You're describing a show watcher who takes the product at face value and then drops it until the next episode. An information problem appears once the show watcher starts to ask questions about plot points. Normally, this information problem would exist until a future episode is aired that resolves the issue, but, in this case, the information is already published and readily available for consumption.
I wouldn't criticize anyone for keeping these questions to themselves, as then it is their own personal mystery to solve. I get frustrated when show watchers want to make their musings public and then expect not to get an answer. What's the purpose of asking a question if you don't want the answer?
You're assuming that some people don't enjoy the unknown.
:buh-bye:
To me what you're talking about is like someone who watches replays of Cats games on ESPN3 because they are unable to watch the games live. They could easily search for articles on the web or watch a highlight show to know the answer. Your beef would come from said person deciding to go on twitter or some other social media platform and speculate about "hoping the Cats will win" or "hoping Jamar can go with his gimpy ankle," but not wanting people to tell them what happened in the game.
Love the new avi, BTW.
But your metaphor doesn't really work because this is clearly the "Show" thread, where people assume nobody is going to tell them all the answers because they read the book first. That said, I hope metalhead stays because it makes this more entertaining.
Post by: puniraptor on May 05, 2014, 04:36:26 PM
I, too, would like to thanks MH for this interesting combo season argument.
Post by: pissclams on May 05, 2014, 10:37:29 PM
Post by: puniraptor on May 05, 2014, 10:39:42 PM
Post by: pissclams on May 05, 2014, 10:50:52 PM
Is there a rule to warging that he has to be a certain distance from the thing he's warging? It seems like kind of a ridiculously powerful skill without a lot of rules.The book goes into some exposition (show only people, is bringing up back story glossed over by the show, in order to better explain current events allowed?) on the rules of warging, so to speak. Some animals are harder to warg with than others, animals with an existing dominance/submission pecking order (wolves/dogs/people[simpletons]) are easier to warg and the more a person wargs with an animal the more connected they are and easier it is for the warg to control the animal. There are times in the books that great distances separate the warg from its animal, but its always with an animal with whom the warg has an existing relationship.
So to answer your question, they can't take over a dragon on the other side of the narrow sea that they've never met and totally burn everything to the ground, just because..... or can they? :runaway:
this isn't backstory glossed over
Post by: HerrSonntag on May 05, 2014, 11:27:02 PM
Its still the kind of drawn out exposition they generally skip over, unless theres some Hodor gangbang sceen they have planned later that they can talk over that i'm unaware of.Is there a rule to warging that he has to be a certain distance from the thing he's warging? It seems like kind of a ridiculously powerful skill without a lot of rules.The book goes into some exposition (show only people, is bringing up back story glossed over by the show, in order to better explain current events allowed?) on the rules of warging, so to speak. Some animals are harder to warg with than others, animals with an existing dominance/submission pecking order (wolves/dogs/people[simpletons]) are easier to warg and the more a person wargs with an animal the more connected they are and easier it is for the warg to control the animal. There are times in the books that great distances separate the warg from its animal, but its always with an animal with whom the warg has an existing relationship.
So to answer your question, they can't take over a dragon on the other side of the narrow sea that they've never met and totally burn everything to the ground, just because..... or can they? :runaway:
this isn't backstory glossed over
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 06, 2014, 12:07:04 AM
:impatient:
Yeah, didn't think so.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 06, 2014, 08:55:23 AM
My point is, speculation, when the answer exists, is a waste.
Speculate all you want about events, fictional and IRL, that have not taken place yet. That's fine. I participate in that activity myself.
The fact is, the answers to these questions that are being asked are out there, but some would rather grasp at straws than actually obtain the answer.
Nothing has been done to refute my claims that you TV show only people are lazy and irrational.
I believe the entertainment from a work of fiction comes from experiencing it, just like most life things. It's not a math problem, or any kind of problem.
You're describing a show watcher who takes the product at face value and then drops it until the next episode. An information problem appears once the show watcher starts to ask questions about plot points. Normally, this information problem would exist until a future episode is aired that resolves the issue, but, in this case, the information is already published and readily available for consumption.
I wouldn't criticize anyone for keeping these questions to themselves, as then it is their own personal mystery to solve. I get frustrated when show watchers want to make their musings public and then expect not to get an answer. What's the purpose of asking a question if you don't want the answer?
i wikipedia'd... all the knowledge, way less reading
Post by: pissclams on May 06, 2014, 09:08:38 AM
I really hope all the book nerds will explain what the scene with the White Walker transforming the baby was all about.
:impatient:
Yeah, didn't think so.
in a different thread
Post by: puniraptor on May 06, 2014, 09:12:25 AM
I really hope all the book nerds will explain what the scene with the White Walker transforming the baby was all about.
:impatient:
Yeah, didn't think so.
in a different thread
haha i just had a funny thought
what if that scene was the show spoiling something that GRRM hasnt written yet for the book nerds?
TABLES HAVE TURNED
Post by: TownieCat on May 06, 2014, 09:46:13 AM
Post by: HerrSonntag on May 06, 2014, 09:47:50 AM
It is, except book readers are partying like rock stars because they watch the show too and like finding out new things.I really hope all the book nerds will explain what the scene with the White Walker transforming the baby was all about.
:impatient:
Yeah, didn't think so.
in a different thread
haha i just had a funny thought
what if that scene was the show spoiling something that GRRM hasnt written yet for the book nerds?
TABLES HAVE TURNED
:Woohoo:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 06, 2014, 09:51:47 AM
It is, except book readers are partying like rock stars because they watch the show too and like finding out new things.I really hope all the book nerds will explain what the scene with the White Walker transforming the baby was all about.
:impatient:
Yeah, didn't think so.
in a different thread
haha i just had a funny thought
what if that scene was the show spoiling something that GRRM hasnt written yet for the book nerds?
TABLES HAVE TURNED
:Woohoo:
Yes
Post by: nicname on May 06, 2014, 12:01:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKTc8Chvw5k
I've talked some trash on Cersei, but man that is a great scene.
Post by: Gooch on May 06, 2014, 03:22:35 PM
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ OK! There I said it.This thread irritates me.
intolerance
Yea, I guess I'm intolerant of stupidity. "Hey, there's this really cool story that I'm interested in. I would really like to know more about everything that is going on. I'm pretty sure there's a whole series of books out there that would fulfill my desires, but I'm going to get on the internet and speculate about what it going on, rather than reading the information and getting the answers that I seek."
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 06, 2014, 03:41:36 PM
Post by: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 09:37:06 PM
MH: I have started book 1 and I would like to read through the entire series. . .but for now I don't want to skip ahead to the current book because I'd miss how GRRM develops his characters. I also like for things to be a surprise instead of just finding out right away. The anticipation of what will happen at the conclusion of a storyline is what gets me so excited every week. If I knew a character I loved was going to be fine I wouldn't feel the worry and be as into the show. That being said, I also like to discuss with like minded people what we think might happen next. That's always a lot of fun. It would be like you and your book buddies speculating about what would happen in the next book.
I'm not sure why that seems so strange to anyone? Anyways.. . I agree it was crazy that Peter admitted to killing the old hand of the king.
Speaking of which. . .it is a lot easier for people on this board to forget names because we don't read them as often.
Post by: HerrSonntag on May 07, 2014, 10:32:51 AM
For the record, Littlefinger is my favorite character.
Post by: pissclams on May 07, 2014, 10:39:40 AM
Post by: ydarg2012 on May 07, 2014, 10:42:42 AM
Petyr didn't admit to it, his coconspirator started blabbing about it with him around, he even tried to quickly change the subject.
For the record, Littlefinger is my favorite character.
He is very intriguing. . .but I wish we knew more about him. I can't help but feel that the story line has been pretty drug out this season. A lot happens in the episodes. . .but then you realize that the story line only moved forward like a centimeter. . .whereas the first few seasons moved ahead at what seemed a break neck pace.
Post by: michigancat on May 07, 2014, 10:51:37 AM
he's a creepy dude
very good at what he does
Post by: michigancat on May 07, 2014, 10:51:52 AM
Petyr didn't admit to it, his coconspirator started blabbing about it with him around, he even tried to quickly change the subject.
For the record, Littlefinger is my favorite character.
He is very intriguing. . .but I wish we knew more about him. I can't help but feel that the story line has been pretty drug out this season. A lot happens in the episodes. . .but then you realize that the story line only moved forward like a centimeter. . .whereas the first few seasons moved ahead at what seemed a break neck pace.
read the books
Post by: ydarg2012 on May 07, 2014, 11:34:13 AM
Petyr didn't admit to it, his coconspirator started blabbing about it with him around, he even tried to quickly change the subject.
For the record, Littlefinger is my favorite character.
He is very intriguing. . .but I wish we knew more about him. I can't help but feel that the story line has been pretty drug out this season. A lot happens in the episodes. . .but then you realize that the story line only moved forward like a centimeter. . .whereas the first few seasons moved ahead at what seemed a break neck pace.
read the books
I'm working on it for sure. But as it relates to the show only, it is too bad they haven't expounded more clearly.
Post by: Mr Bread on May 07, 2014, 11:41:24 AM
Petyr didn't admit to it, his coconspirator started blabbing about it with him around, he even tried to quickly change the subject.
For the record, Littlefinger is my favorite character.
He is very intriguing. . .but I wish we knew more about him. I can't help but feel that the story line has been pretty drug out this season. A lot happens in the episodes. . .but then you realize that the story line only moved forward like a centimeter. . .whereas the first few seasons moved ahead at what seemed a break neck pace.
read the books
I'm working on it for sure. But as it relates to the show only, it is too bad they haven't expounded more clearly.
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Petyr_Baelish (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Petyr_Baelish)
Post by: michigancat on May 07, 2014, 11:44:17 AM
Petyr didn't admit to it, his coconspirator started blabbing about it with him around, he even tried to quickly change the subject.
For the record, Littlefinger is my favorite character.
He is very intriguing. . .but I wish we knew more about him. I can't help but feel that the story line has been pretty drug out this season. A lot happens in the episodes. . .but then you realize that the story line only moved forward like a centimeter. . .whereas the first few seasons moved ahead at what seemed a break neck pace.
read the books
I'm working on it for sure. But as it relates to the show only, it is too bad they haven't expounded more clearly.
well, the entire show is basically cliff notes of the books. It's just what's going to happen when you condense 1000 pages of text to 12 hours of video.
Post by: pissclams on May 07, 2014, 12:28:03 PM
it's actually 4,273 pages and a total of 40 hours (through season 4) of tv, which would equate to 106.8 pages per hour of television. also, not sure why he's referring to "video" :confused: are we watching it on a vcr? :confused:
:lol: pwnt :lol:
Post by: pissclams on May 07, 2014, 12:29:36 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fe%2Fe4%2FGeorge_R_R_Martin_2011_Shankbone.JPG%2F220px-George_R_R_Martin_2011_Shankbone.JPG&hash=b99e9434be9a6c4dadc33d6a56631be5eda76ebe)
looks like an ogre to me?
:lol:
Post by: michigancat on May 07, 2014, 12:29:58 PM
Post by: pissclams on May 07, 2014, 12:30:47 PM
what character does this nerd city usa play?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fe%2Fe4%2FGeorge_R_R_Martin_2011_Shankbone.JPG%2F220px-George_R_R_Martin_2011_Shankbone.JPG&hash=b99e9434be9a6c4dadc33d6a56631be5eda76ebe)
looks like an ogre to me?
:lol:
attention, colonial spock, you've put on some weight :lol:
Post by: pissclams on May 07, 2014, 12:32:41 PM
what character does this nerd city usa play?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fe%2Fe4%2FGeorge_R_R_Martin_2011_Shankbone.JPG%2F220px-George_R_R_Martin_2011_Shankbone.JPG&hash=b99e9434be9a6c4dadc33d6a56631be5eda76ebe)
looks like an ogre to me?
:lol:
Ogre: Hello young lady, may I buy you a beer?
Ms. Universe: No but that's a striking broach you have on.
:lol: w00t there it is! :lol:
Post by: joda on May 07, 2014, 12:53:32 PM
I think Petyr is going to end up having a pretty gruesome, awesome death. He's played with fire and though he's really good at playing the game, I think he believes he's unbeatable. With all the other high quality players running around sooner or later he's going to lose.
Post by: michigancat on May 07, 2014, 12:58:35 PM
Disclaimer fo those of you who get your panties in a wad anytime a book reader posts: This is speculation here, not anything I've picked up from reading farther in the books.
I think Petyr is going to end up having a pretty gruesome, awesome death. He's played with fire and though he's really good at playing the game, I think he believes he's unbeatable. With all the other high quality players running around sooner or later he's going to lose.
Sansa will kill him or have him killed. IMO she's going to learn rad things from him and will become much more likeable in the next book.
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 07, 2014, 12:59:25 PM
what character does this nerd city usa play?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fe%2Fe4%2FGeorge_R_R_Martin_2011_Shankbone.JPG%2F220px-George_R_R_Martin_2011_Shankbone.JPG&hash=b99e9434be9a6c4dadc33d6a56631be5eda76ebe)
looks like an ogre to me?
:lol:
Ogre: Hello young lady, may I buy you a beer?
Ms. Universe: No but that's a striking broach you have on.
:lol: w00t there it is! :lol:
:lol:
Post by: OK_Cat on May 07, 2014, 01:30:04 PM
Disclaimer fo those of you who get your panties in a wad anytime a book reader posts: This is speculation here, not anything I've picked up from reading farther in the books.
I think Petyr is going to end up having a pretty gruesome, awesome death. He's played with fire and though he's really good at playing the game, I think he believes he's unbeatable. With all the other high quality players running around sooner or later he's going to lose.
Sansa will kill him or have him killed. IMO she's going to learn rad things from him and will become much more likeable in the next book.
I hope so. She's the only stark kid that I don't care about. (Where's the youngest boy at??????!)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 07, 2014, 02:04:44 PM
Disclaimer fo those of you who get your panties in a wad anytime a book reader posts: This is speculation here, not anything I've picked up from reading farther in the books.
I think Petyr is going to end up having a pretty gruesome, awesome death. He's played with fire and though he's really good at playing the game, I think he believes he's unbeatable. With all the other high quality players running around sooner or later he's going to lose.
Sansa will kill him or have him killed. IMO she's going to learn rad things from him and will become much more likeable in the next book.
I hope so. She's the only stark kid that I don't care about. (Where's the youngest boy at??????!)
He's with Osha (the Wilding).
Post by: OK_Cat on May 07, 2014, 02:06:11 PM
Disclaimer fo those of you who get your panties in a wad anytime a book reader posts: This is speculation here, not anything I've picked up from reading farther in the books.
I think Petyr is going to end up having a pretty gruesome, awesome death. He's played with fire and though he's really good at playing the game, I think he believes he's unbeatable. With all the other high quality players running around sooner or later he's going to lose.
Sansa will kill him or have him killed. IMO she's going to learn rad things from him and will become much more likeable in the next book.
I hope so. She's the only stark kid that I don't care about. (Where's the youngest boy at??????!)
He's with Osha (the Wilding).
yeah, i just wondered why they have not shown them at all in at least a full season's worth of episodes. makes me think they have been kidnapped or something.
Post by: TownieCat on May 07, 2014, 02:14:47 PM
Disclaimer fo those of you who get your panties in a wad anytime a book reader posts: This is speculation here, not anything I've picked up from reading farther in the books.
I think Petyr is going to end up having a pretty gruesome, awesome death. He's played with fire and though he's really good at playing the game, I think he believes he's unbeatable. With all the other high quality players running around sooner or later he's going to lose.
Sansa will kill him or have him killed. IMO she's going to learn rad things from him and will become much more likeable in the next book.
Isn't Brienne on her way to find Sansa? I could see her taking him out.
Someone important is going to fall through that damn hole in the floor. Order of likeliness:
1. Petyr
2. The squire
3. Creepy Boy
4. Lyza
5. Brienne
6. Sansa
Note: I'm rooting for the Creepy Boy to fall the most and Brienne to fall the least.
Post by: Mr Bread on May 07, 2014, 02:15:27 PM
Post by: puniraptor on May 07, 2014, 02:15:52 PM
im sure of it
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 07, 2014, 02:21:32 PM
Disclaimer fo those of you who get your panties in a wad anytime a book reader posts: This is speculation here, not anything I've picked up from reading farther in the books.
I think Petyr is going to end up having a pretty gruesome, awesome death. He's played with fire and though he's really good at playing the game, I think he believes he's unbeatable. With all the other high quality players running around sooner or later he's going to lose.
Sansa will kill him or have him killed. IMO she's going to learn rad things from him and will become much more likeable in the next book.
Isn't Brienne on her way to find Sansa? I could see her taking him out.
Someone important is going to fall through that damn hole in the floor. Order of likeliness:
1. Petyr
2.The squirePodrick
3.Creepy BoyLord Robin Arryn
4.LyzaLysa
5. Brienne
6. Sansa
Note: I'm rooting for the Creepy Boy to fall the most and Brienne to fall the least.
Post by: Mr Bread on May 07, 2014, 02:28:12 PM
Disclaimer fo those of you who get your panties in a wad anytime a book reader posts: This is speculation here, not anything I've picked up from reading farther in the books.
I think Petyr is going to end up having a pretty gruesome, awesome death. He's played with fire and though he's really good at playing the game, I think he believes he's unbeatable. With all the other high quality players running around sooner or later he's going to lose.
Sansa will kill him or have him killed. IMO she's going to learn rad things from him and will become much more likeable in the next book.
Isn't Brienne on her way to find Sansa? I could see her taking him out.
Someone important is going to fall through that damn hole in the floor. Order of likeliness:
1. Petyr
2. The squire
3. Creepy Boy
4. Lyza
5. Brienne
6. Sansa
Note: I'm rooting for the Creepy Boy to fall the most and Brienne to fall the least.
The creepy boy is very valuable. He's John Arryn's only son and therefore sole heir to the Lord of the Eyrie, Defender of the Vale, and Warden of the East.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 07, 2014, 02:29:15 PM
Disclaimer fo those of you who get your panties in a wad anytime a book reader posts: This is speculation here, not anything I've picked up from reading farther in the books.
I think Petyr is going to end up having a pretty gruesome, awesome death. He's played with fire and though he's really good at playing the game, I think he believes he's unbeatable. With all the other high quality players running around sooner or later he's going to lose.
Sansa will kill him or have him killed. IMO she's going to learn rad things from him and will become much more likeable in the next book.
Isn't Brienne on her way to find Sansa? I could see her taking him out.
Someone important is going to fall through that damn hole in the floor. Order of likeliness:
1. Petyr
2. The squire
3. Creepy Boy
4. Lyza
5. Brienne
6. Sansa
Note: I'm rooting for the Creepy Boy to fall the most and Brienne to fall the least.
The creepy boy is very valuable. He's John Arryn's only son and therefore sole heir to the Lord of the Eyrie, Defender of the Vale, and Warden of the East.
Except he isn't the heir. He is the Lord of the Eyrie, etc.
Post by: TownieCat on May 07, 2014, 02:29:50 PM
Disclaimer fo those of you who get your panties in a wad anytime a book reader posts: This is speculation here, not anything I've picked up from reading farther in the books.
I think Petyr is going to end up having a pretty gruesome, awesome death. He's played with fire and though he's really good at playing the game, I think he believes he's unbeatable. With all the other high quality players running around sooner or later he's going to lose.
Sansa will kill him or have him killed. IMO she's going to learn rad things from him and will become much more likeable in the next book.
Isn't Brienne on her way to find Sansa? I could see her taking him out.
Someone important is going to fall through that damn hole in the floor. Order of likeliness:
1. Petyr
2.The squirePodrick
3.Creepy BoyLord Robin Arryn
4.LyzaLysa
5. Brienne
6. Sansa
Note: I'm rooting for the Creepy Boy to fall the most and Brienne to fall the least.
:don'tcare:
Post by: Mr Bread on May 07, 2014, 02:32:53 PM
Post by: puniraptor on May 07, 2014, 02:33:45 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 07, 2014, 02:35:37 PM
will peter be able to control him after killing his mom?
As long as he gets someone with tits to feed the kid.
Post by: TownieCat on May 07, 2014, 02:36:02 PM
will peter be able to control him after killing his mom?
I'm not sure, but I hope someone kills her before we have to hear her make sex sounds again. :Yuck:
Post by: puniraptor on May 07, 2014, 02:38:59 PM
will peter be able to control him after killing his mom?
I'm not sure, but I hope someone kills her before we have to hear her make sex sounds again. :Yuck:
and before that child actor has to suckle on her teat again
Post by: mocat on May 07, 2014, 02:44:50 PM
peter will be throwing lisa through the hole
im sure of it
:Wha:
Post by: Mr Bread on May 07, 2014, 02:48:19 PM
will peter be able to control him after killing his mom?
He's basically the weakest most sickly, frail, dependent character in the show/books whose mother is crazytown in love with LF. I'd say LF is more than capable of pulling that off. They're both just chips to him obviously. The guy is amazing at the game.
Post by: Benja on May 07, 2014, 02:52:33 PM
Petyr didn't admit to it, his coconspirator started blabbing about it with him around, he even tried to quickly change the subject.
For the record, Littlefinger is my favorite character.
He is very intriguing. . .but I wish we knew more about him. I can't help but feel that the story line has been pretty drug out this season. A lot happens in the episodes. . .but then you realize that the story line only moved forward like a centimeter. . .whereas the first few seasons moved ahead at what seemed a break neck pace.
Yeah I think that's right, but I guess they are also having to write new stuff now instead of just portray what was already portrayed in the books. I kinda hope it speeds up. Last episode had me all like, "meh".
Post by: TownieCat on May 11, 2014, 10:30:54 PM
Also, Sansa will throw Liza into the hole.
Post by: michigancat on May 11, 2014, 10:42:28 PM
Now THAT was one hell of an episode! Prediction: Tywin will make Tyrion and Jaime fight to the death, and Jaime will die because everyone who is too close to Cersei dies.
Also, Sansa will throw Liza into the hole.
WHO KNOWS???
Post by: puniraptor on May 11, 2014, 10:45:25 PM
Post by: puniraptor on May 11, 2014, 10:45:32 PM
Post by: TownieCat on May 11, 2014, 11:03:39 PM
The mountain will be fighting for tywin and I bet ober volunteers as champion for tyrion
Good call. In this scenario, what happens to Tyrion if the Mountain wins?
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 12, 2014, 04:48:45 AM
Post by: Cire on May 12, 2014, 05:50:30 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 12, 2014, 06:01:03 AM
The New mountain looks crappy
you are crappy.
Post by: The Whale on May 12, 2014, 09:17:29 AM
The mountain will be fighting for tywin and I bet ober volunteers as champion for tyrion
Good call. In this scenario, what happens to Tyrion if the Mountain wins?
Finally caught up on the show --
Few options for the upcoming trial by combat:
- Oberyn wins: Tyrion is free, but probably has to leave Kings Landing.
- Mountain wins: Tyrion is sentenced to death. Probably escapes Kings Landing beforehand with Jamie's help.
- Oberyn and Mountain kill eachother: Retrial by combat? Probably escapes Kings Landing beforehand with Jamie's help.
Post by: TownieCat on May 12, 2014, 09:24:05 AM
The mountain will be fighting for tywin and I bet ober volunteers as champion for tyrion
Good call. In this scenario, what happens to Tyrion if the Mountain wins?
Finally caught up on the show --
Few options for the upcoming trial by combat:
- Oberyn wins: Tyrion is free, but probably has to leave Kings Landing.
- Mountain wins: Tyrion is sentenced to death. Probably escapes Kings Landing beforehand with Jamie's help.
- Oberyn and Mountain kill eachother: Retrial by combat? Probably escapes Kings Landing beforehand with Jamie's help.
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Post by: Cire on May 12, 2014, 09:35:59 AM
The New mountain looks crappy
you are crappy.
dude looks 20 years younger than the Hound.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 12, 2014, 09:58:29 AM
The mountain will be fighting for tywin and I bet ober volunteers as champion for tyrion
Whoever it is will be representing Cersei (not Tywin) since she is the one who brought the accusation.
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2014, 10:06:13 AM
The New mountain looks crappy
you are crappy.
dude looks 20 years younger than the Hound.
who cares how old he looks in comparison to the hound, wtf does that have to do with anything
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 12, 2014, 10:06:56 AM
The New mountain looks crappy
you are crappy.
dude looks 20 years younger than the Hound.
who cares how old he looks in comparison to the hound, wtf does that have to do with anything
Well he is supposed to be the Hound's older brother. :dunno:
Post by: mocat on May 12, 2014, 10:13:50 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 12, 2014, 10:18:29 AM
The New mountain looks crappy
you are crappy.
dude looks 20 years younger than the Hound.
This is why I hate these threads. This is such a profoundly dumb gripe, but I can't even delve into because I'll spoil stuff.
This is the third actor to play the role since the series started. I can't imagine the logistical challenges in casting someone to play a character of that physical stature. Sure, they could have done somethings in makeup, put a helm on him or done some computer editing, but overall this is just a weird rough ridin' stance to take.
Post by: puniraptor on May 12, 2014, 10:20:48 AM
The New mountain looks crappy
you are crappy.
dude looks 20 years younger than the Hound.
This is why I hate these threads. This is such a profoundly dumb gripe, but I can't even delve into because I'll spoil stuff.
This is the third actor to play the role since the series started. I can't imagine the logistical challenges in casting someone to play a character of that physical stature. Sure, they could have done somethings in makeup, put a helm on him or done some computer editing, but overall this is just a weird rough ridin' stance to take.
should have grown out a massive beard. and who the mountain is has been clearly explained in the show, clams is outliering here.
the mountain appears so rarely anyhow that the constant recasting is barely an issue.
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2014, 10:29:34 AM
The New mountain looks crappy
you are crappy.
dude looks 20 years younger than the Hound.
This is why I hate these threads. This is such a profoundly dumb gripe, but I can't even delve into because I'll spoil stuff.
This is the third actor to play the role since the series started. I can't imagine the logistical challenges in casting someone to play a character of that physical stature. Sure, they could have done somethings in makeup, put a helm on him or done some computer editing, but overall this is just a weird rough ridin' stance to take.
pro tip, don't read threads you hate
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2014, 10:31:01 AM
The New mountain looks crappy
you are crappy.
dude looks 20 years younger than the Hound.
who cares how old he looks in comparison to the hound, wtf does that have to do with anything
Well he is supposed to be the Hound's older brother. :dunno:
i never remember them even talking about the mountain so i guess i'm not really hung up on how old that a character that might have appeared once in season 1 looks
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 12, 2014, 10:32:40 AM
pro tip, don't read threads you hate
I know, but I'm always afraid that I'm going to miss a witty post or an interesting thought.
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2014, 10:38:07 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 12, 2014, 10:42:20 AM
The New mountain looks crappy
you are crappy.
dude looks 20 years younger than the Hound.
who cares how old he looks in comparison to the hound, wtf does that have to do with anything
Well he is supposed to be the Hound's older brother. :dunno:
i never remember them even talking about the mountain so i guess i'm not really hung up on how old that a character that might have appeared once in season 1 looks
Arya and The Hound just discussed him in the previous episode.
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2014, 12:25:54 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on May 12, 2014, 12:33:54 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 12, 2014, 01:21:17 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 12, 2014, 01:30:18 PM
Hafthor, the actor currently playing Gregor, was born in 1988. Rory McCann, Sandor, was born in 1969.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 12, 2014, 01:33:00 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 12, 2014, 01:36:41 PM
My gripe about new mountain is he looks too nice and cuddly, the other guys looked like total assholes
Hafthor > Conan > Ian. Ian was the absolute worst. The Mountain is supposed to be jacked AF, and Ian is skinny and nerdy looking.
Post by: puniraptor on May 12, 2014, 01:37:29 PM
My gripe about new mountain is he looks too nice and cuddly, the other guys looked like total assholes
for reference
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.boomtron.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fthe-mountain-got-e1378348079111.jpg&hash=43273a04e64e7d330ae25cf147800eac5433ed12)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg1.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20120531221808%2Fgameofthrones%2Fimages%2F4%2F4f%2FGregor_2x08.png&hash=9a9cd718dadb42babe1489fad16eab8221f6194a)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 12, 2014, 01:38:41 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 12, 2014, 01:41:04 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdq8nlzk56ayth.cloudfront.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F11%2FThor-Lead.jpg&hash=9658870bcd66a11604945f77c5ff4067c238aad5)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tvweek.com%2Fblogs%2Ftvbizwire%2FJulius-Bjornsson.png&hash=6e82adc69fece79866684c9431aefbdb54248bf8)
vs.
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fharrypotter%2Fimages%2Farchive%2F5%2F56%2F20120713172723%21Ian_whyte.jpg&hash=2c6c47c106a693500afab81faa2a13d3719a908e)
pfftt :lol:
Post by: mocat on May 12, 2014, 01:41:44 PM
Post by: puniraptor on May 12, 2014, 01:41:57 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 12, 2014, 03:40:57 PM
Also, Tyrion totally played the Imp card.
Post by: Mr Bread on May 12, 2014, 04:16:12 PM
glad they got back to the round head, widows peak vs the long head, strait hairline. much more true to the books, IMO
Widow's peaks are very threatening.
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 12, 2014, 04:50:31 PM
Post by: TownieCat on May 12, 2014, 04:59:28 PM
The whole "trial by combat" thing is pretty stupid. If it's obvious you're guilty why wouldn't you do that everytime? Why would the "government" allow a person who is most likely guilty to kill someone in order to be set free?
Because people are barbaric and would rather see a fight. Also, if I'm pretty sure the person on trial can only request a trial by combat. That doesn't mean it has to be granted. Can one of the book nerds weigh in here?
Post by: star seed 7 on May 12, 2014, 05:03:11 PM
The whole "trial by combat" thing is pretty stupid. If it's obvious you're guilty why wouldn't you do that everytime? Why would the "government" allow a person who is most likely guilty to kill someone in order to be set free?
a guy in arizona a year or two ago demanded trial by combat and there was some talk over if he could or not. the issue hasn't really been addressed in the us or something.
Post by: Cire on May 12, 2014, 05:03:33 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 12, 2014, 05:04:38 PM
Because they believe the Gods influence the combat
So why don't they just do it everytime?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 12, 2014, 05:05:12 PM
The whole "trial by combat" thing is pretty stupid. If it's obvious you're guilty why wouldn't you do that everytime? Why would the "government" allow a person who is most likely guilty to kill someone in order to be set free?
Because people are barbaric and would rather see a fight. Also, if I'm pretty sure the person on trial can only request a trial by combat. That doesn't mean it has to be granted. Can one of the book nerds weigh in here?
I don't know all the ins and outs of it, but they view trial by combat as letting the gods decide things. You would have to be pretty influential to ever find a champion willing to fight for you, and if you don't find a champion, you are stuck fighting the best fighter in the king's army in full armor. If you don't have a suit of armor handy, I don't think you are given one. I really think your odds of living through a sham trial would be a lot better than the trial by combat route in almost every instance. They often let murderers take the black rather than face execution.
Post by: puniraptor on May 12, 2014, 05:06:10 PM
Because they believe the Gods influence the combat
So why don't they just do it everytime?
PLOT HOLE. BLOW HUGE HOLES IN GAME OF THROWNZE SHOWS AND BOOKS WITH MAESTER STEVESEI
Post by: Cire on May 12, 2014, 05:07:06 PM
Post by: The Whale on May 12, 2014, 06:39:26 PM
Because some are fine with the wall. Also you've got to have someone good. Tyrion knows oberon wants to eff over the lannisters
At this point, Tyrion's probably thinking he can get Bronn to fight for him again. Oberyn will be the backup plan when Bronn can't/won't.
Post by: Benja on May 12, 2014, 06:50:51 PM
Medieval episode of Law And Order was also pretty funny to watch.
Also Lord Varys was kind of a bitch in this episode. I thought he was conniving but supposed to be kind of a good guy in the show.
Post by: Benja on May 12, 2014, 06:56:32 PM
And Lord Varys is all like "Unfortunately I don't forget anything, guy."
WHAT KIND OF ANSWER IS THAT???
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2014, 07:21:54 PM
The whole "trial by combat" thing is pretty stupid. If it's obvious you're guilty why wouldn't you do that everytime? Why would the "government" allow a person who is most likely guilty to kill someone in order to be set free?
Because people are barbaric and would rather see a fight. Also, if I'm pretty sure the person on trial can only request a trial by combat. That doesn't mean it has to be granted. Can one of the book nerds weigh in here?
hey downgrade, learn your rough ridin' role. don't ask for other downgrades to talk about the books in this thread you rough ridin' dumbass.
Post by: TownieCat on May 12, 2014, 07:29:03 PM
hey downgrade, learn your rough ridin' role. don't ask for other downgrades to talk about the books in this thread you rough ridin' dumbass.
:thumbs:
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2014, 07:35:26 PM
Post by: Benja on May 12, 2014, 07:55:32 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 13, 2014, 08:19:04 AM
The whole "trial by combat" thing is pretty stupid. If it's obvious you're guilty why wouldn't you do that everytime? Why would the "government" allow a person who is most likely guilty to kill someone in order to be set free?
Because people are barbaric and would rather see a fight. Also, if I'm pretty sure the person on trial can only request a trial by combat. That doesn't mean it has to be granted. Can one of the book nerds weigh in here?
I don't know all the ins and outs of it, but they view trial by combat as letting the gods decide things. You would have to be pretty influential to ever find a champion willing to fight for you, and if you don't find a champion, you are stuck fighting the best fighter in the king's army in full armor. If you don't have a suit of armor handy, I don't think you are given one. I really think your odds of living through a sham trial would be a lot better than the trial by combat route in almost every instance. They often let murderers take the black rather than face execution.
This.
Also, I'm pretty sure that if you request a trial by combat then they have to grant it.
Post by: AppleJack on May 13, 2014, 08:25:12 AM
Post by: AppleJack on May 13, 2014, 08:49:53 AM
Post by: TownieCat on May 13, 2014, 09:10:40 AM
Just watched last night - maybe my favorite episode of the series.
As boring as last week was for me this week was equally as exciting.
And yes, Mh, I understand that last week had to happen to set up this week's greatness.
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 13, 2014, 10:15:17 AM
Just watched last night - maybe my favorite episode of the series.
As boring as last week was for me this week was equally as exciting.
And yes, Mh, I understand that last week had to happen to set up this week's greatness.
I wasn't going to say anything, I've come to terms with the fact that you're part of the action and sexytime obsessed mob.
Post by: TownieCat on May 13, 2014, 10:25:22 AM
Just watched last night - maybe my favorite episode of the series.
As boring as last week was for me this week was equally as exciting.
And yes, Mh, I understand that last week had to happen to set up this week's greatness.
I wasn't going to say anything, I've come to terms with the fact that you're part of the action and sexytime obsessed mob.
Not entirely true. I can appreciate a scene filled with dialogue, but sometimes they can get a little dry. And sometimes you have to see the action to have the context of a previous scene's conversation make sense.
I'm not sure if I'll ever go back and watch this series from start to finish again, but I'm sure if I did the earlier episodes would make a lot more sense due to the fact I know how they'll later impact the show. This happens a lot while watching movies, but it's much easier to rewatch a 2 hour movie than what will be a 60+ hour long series by the time it's done.
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 13, 2014, 10:29:32 AM
Just watched last night - maybe my favorite episode of the series.
As boring as last week was for me this week was equally as exciting.
And yes, Mh, I understand that last week had to happen to set up this week's greatness.
I wasn't going to say anything, I've come to terms with the fact that you're part of the action and sexytime obsessed mob.
Not entirely true. I can appreciate a scene filled with dialogue, but sometimes they can get a little dry. And sometimes you have to see the action to have the context of a previous scene's conversation make sense.
I'm not sure if I'll ever go back and watch this series from start to finish again, but I'm sure if I did the earlier episodes would make a lot more sense due to the fact I know how they'll later impact the show. This happens a lot while watching movies, but it's much easier to rewatch a 2 hour movie than what will be a 60+ hour long series by the time it's done.
I'm pushing your buttons. The show, and the books even more so, are a gigantic time investment. I'm quite fond of this series but I doubt there will ever be a point in time where I consider rereading them.
Post by: TownieCat on May 13, 2014, 10:33:13 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 13, 2014, 10:34:25 AM
That said, Dany scenes are my favorite scenes... :fatty:
KATDADDY! NO!
Post by: 0.42 on May 13, 2014, 10:38:08 AM
That said, Dany scenes are my favorite scenes... :fatty:
KATDADDY! NO!
:lol:
Post by: slimz on May 13, 2014, 10:56:42 AM
Tyrion is all like "Hey remember you were all psyched about me saving the city and said that I was awesome and stuff, did you forget that?"
And Lord Varys is all like "Unfortunately I don't forget anything, guy."
WHAT KIND OF ANSWER IS THAT???
Operates on a few levels.
First, unfortunately for Tyrion, Varys didn't forget the bad stuff Tyrion said about Joffrey.
Second, also unfortunately for Tyrion, Varys doesn't forget all he's learned about "playing the game" and his overall awareness of everything that's going on everywhere in the GoT world. Which means that he knows this is the play he needs to make at this point, for his own purposes. Also, he'd like to be able to forget some of the screwed-up crap that he's aware of, but that's kinda his line of work now, so.
Third, unfortunately for Varys, he of course remembers what he told Tyrion and knows he's screwing him over and feels kinda bad about it, and also knows he won't be able to forget feeling bad about it. (But still, better to be able to feel bad about that than not being able to feel anything because your head is no longer attached to the rest of your body. YOLO.)
Post by: Institutional Control on May 13, 2014, 11:06:43 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 14, 2014, 08:42:17 AM
http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/05/13/game-of-thrones-super-mario-credits/
Post by: TownieCat on May 14, 2014, 08:44:47 AM
Is this where I should put this?
http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/05/13/game-of-thrones-super-mario-credits/
:love:
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 14, 2014, 10:17:52 AM
I can't believe I ever loved Shae.
Shae is going to redeem herself. Cersei obviously ran her down (what happened to Bronn?) and she's doing what she needs to do to live. Tyrion still loves her and threw in the whore insult at the end of the trial for her protection. The two will live happily ever after.
Post by: puniraptor on May 14, 2014, 10:20:24 AM
I can't believe I ever loved Shae.
Shae is going to redeem herself. Cersei obviously ran her down (what happened to Bronn?) and she's doing what she needs to do to live. Tyrion still loves her and threw in the whore insult at the end of the trial for her protection. The two will live happily ever after.
i hope this is speculation
i speculate that they will bang again and probably she will die a horrible death
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 14, 2014, 03:40:56 PM
Post by: Demo158 on May 15, 2014, 03:12:02 AM
Post by: OK_Cat on May 18, 2014, 09:21:34 PM
Post by: Cire on May 18, 2014, 09:45:29 PM
Post by: nicname on May 19, 2014, 12:56:29 AM
I love this goddamn show.
Post by: ydarg2012 on May 19, 2014, 09:13:53 AM
Post by: The Whale on May 19, 2014, 09:55:56 AM
Epic episode. Was curious why they cut away from that scene where Dany was being all dominatrix? Did she sign something saying she wouldn't be nude the rest of the series?
KATDADDY! NO!
Post by: Cire on May 19, 2014, 09:59:21 AM
except for the mountain.
Post by: The Whale on May 19, 2014, 10:04:03 AM
Post by: ydarg2012 on May 19, 2014, 10:56:20 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 19, 2014, 11:50:06 AM
I know the Eyrie is impenetrable. . .but what about the white walkers? Can it keep them out?
Yes, as long as the archers have arrows made of obsidian.
Post by: ydarg2012 on May 19, 2014, 12:06:26 PM
I know the Eyrie is impenetrable. . .but what about the white walkers? Can it keep them out?
Yes, as long as the archers have arrows made of obsidian.
Is this difficult to obtain in Westeros?
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 19, 2014, 12:30:40 PM
I know the Eyrie is impenetrable. . .but what about the white walkers? Can it keep them out?
Yes, as long as the archers have arrows made of obsidian.
Is this difficult to obtain in Westeros?
i don't know. i bet it says in the books, though.
Post by: Gooch on May 19, 2014, 01:39:15 PM
Or just go to lunch with Mrs. Gooch and make her tell you.I know the Eyrie is impenetrable. . .but what about the white walkers? Can it keep them out?
Yes, as long as the archers have arrows made of obsidian.
Is this difficult to obtain in Westeros?
i don't know. i bet it says in the books, though.
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 19, 2014, 01:40:03 PM
Or just go to lunch with Mrs. Gooch and make her tell you.I know the Eyrie is impenetrable. . .but what about the white walkers? Can it keep them out?
Yes, as long as the archers have arrows made of obsidian.
Is this difficult to obtain in Westeros?
i don't know. i bet it says in the books, though.
I know the rough ridin' answer, Gooch.
Post by: Gooch on May 19, 2014, 01:41:05 PM
That was directed to the others not you.Or just go to lunch with Mrs. Gooch and make her tell you.I know the Eyrie is impenetrable. . .but what about the white walkers? Can it keep them out?
Yes, as long as the archers have arrows made of obsidian.
Is this difficult to obtain in Westeros?
i don't know. i bet it says in the books, though.
I know the rough ridin' answer, Gooch.
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 19, 2014, 01:43:29 PM
That was directed to the others not you.Or just go to lunch with Mrs. Gooch and make her tell you.I know the Eyrie is impenetrable. . .but what about the white walkers? Can it keep them out?
Yes, as long as the archers have arrows made of obsidian.
Is this difficult to obtain in Westeros?
i don't know. i bet it says in the books, though.
I know the rough ridin' answer, Gooch.
Okay. I'd still go to lunch with you guys though.
Post by: ydarg2012 on May 19, 2014, 03:16:46 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 19, 2014, 03:22:37 PM
Is Littlefinger now the protector of the vale and all that? Or is the boy still that title? I'm just curious how that titling will work. The preview for next week makes it seem like Sansa is going to tattle. . .so I wonder if Peter kills the boy too.
Robin is still Lord of the Eyrie....but I think Peter is like his regent now with the title of Lord Protector of the Vale...unless he gets convicted of killing Lysa.
Post by: puniraptor on May 19, 2014, 03:23:30 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 19, 2014, 03:25:19 PM
could they frame Robin for the murder? what would happen then?
If Robin were killed (as punishment for the murder) then the Lordship would have to pass to some other relative...Jon Arryn didn't have any other sons so they would have to go back to his siblings (if he has any?) and their kids...I think.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 19, 2014, 03:25:41 PM
could they frame Robin for the murder? what would happen then?
What would his motive be? Sour milk?
Post by: puniraptor on May 19, 2014, 03:27:43 PM
could they frame Robin for the murder? what would happen then?
What would his motive be? Sour milk?
batshit crazyness. oedipussian jealosy most likely
Post by: ydarg2012 on May 19, 2014, 03:36:37 PM
Post by: puniraptor on May 19, 2014, 03:45:28 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 19, 2014, 03:48:23 PM
Does he need to get rid of robin to clear his way to sansa tho
Why would he? Lysa was the only one pushing to have Robin marry Sansa.
Post by: puniraptor on May 19, 2014, 03:54:56 PM
Does he need to get rid of robin to clear his way to sansa tho
Why would he? Lysa was the only one pushing to have Robin marry Sansa.
k. didn't know if they were officially "promised" or whatever
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 19, 2014, 04:01:52 PM
Post by: puniraptor on May 19, 2014, 04:02:23 PM
She's still wed to Tyrion at this point.
oooooooh yeah
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 19, 2014, 04:04:10 PM
She's still wed to Tyrion at this point.
Never consummated, though.
Post by: ydarg2012 on May 19, 2014, 04:39:39 PM
She's still wed to Tyrion at this point.
I think Peter assumes that Tyrion will die though. . .so that could still be an option.
Post by: The Whale on May 19, 2014, 04:56:09 PM
Baelish is now the Lord Protector of the Vale until Robin comes of age, so he's in control for the forseeable future.
The assumption is that the north will rally around the Starks when the time comes, so as long as he holds on to Sansa, he'd have control over Winterfell as well.
He has control of 2/7 kingdoms now (Harrenhall, the Eyrie), with eventual plans on the third (Winterfell). He's got to be playing the long game, but I can't see what he would go for after Winterfell, maybe Riverrun?
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 19, 2014, 11:56:46 PM
Unless there's something they haven't talked about yet in the show, there's not a reason for Baelish to kill off Robin Arryn.
Baelish is now the Lord Protector of the Vale until Robin comes of age, so he's in control for the forseeable future.
The assumption is that the north will rally around the Starks when the time comes, so as long as he holds on to Sansa, he'd have control over Winterfell as well.
He has control of 2/7 kingdoms now (Harrenhall, the Eyrie), with eventual plans on the third (Winterfell). He's got to be playing the long game, but I can't see what he would go for after Winterfell, maybe Riverrun?
Harrenhal is not one of the seven kingdoms. The kingdoms, and their seats, are as follows: The North, Winterfell; The Iron Islands, Pyke; The Riverlands (Harrenhal is located here), Riverrun; The Vale, the Eyrie; The Westerlands, Casterly Rock; The Reach, Highgarden; The Stormlands, Storm's End.
Dorne was added as the eight kingdom sometime later. The region where King's Landing is locatede is referred to as the Crownlands.
Post by: stunted on May 20, 2014, 02:22:39 AM
Post by: puniraptor on May 20, 2014, 09:13:21 AM
Unless there's something they haven't talked about yet in the show, there's not a reason for Baelish to kill off Robin Arryn.
Baelish is now the Lord Protector of the Vale until Robin comes of age, so he's in control for the forseeable future.
The assumption is that the north will rally around the Starks when the time comes, so as long as he holds on to Sansa, he'd have control over Winterfell as well.
He has control of 2/7 kingdoms now (Harrenhall, the Eyrie), with eventual plans on the third (Winterfell). He's got to be playing the long game, but I can't see what he would go for after Winterfell, maybe Riverrun?
Harrenhal is not one of the seven kingdoms. The kingdoms, and their seats, are as follows: The North, Winterfell; The Iron Islands, Pyke; The Riverlands (Harrenhal is located here), Riverrun; The Vale, the Eyrie; The Westerlands, Casterly Rock; The Reach, Highgarden; The Stormlands, Storm's End.
Dorne was added as the eight kingdom sometime later. The region where King's Landing is locatede is referred to as the Crownlands.
this is the kind of crap I need the book people for :thumbs:
Post by: Cire on May 20, 2014, 09:26:56 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on May 20, 2014, 09:42:07 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 20, 2014, 09:48:29 AM
I would think that Littlefinger would not want anyone to know he has Sansa otherwise he would be implicated in Joffrey's murder.
For the time being that is correct; but she might be useful later - maybe after the Lannisters are out of power.
Post by: pissclams on May 20, 2014, 10:08:53 AM
I would think that Littlefinger would not want anyone to know he has Sansa otherwise he would be implicated in Joffrey's murder.
For the time being that is correct; but she might be useful later - maybe after the Lannisters are out of power.
tread lightly
Post by: The Whale on May 20, 2014, 10:24:38 AM
Unless there's something they haven't talked about yet in the show, there's not a reason for Baelish to kill off Robin Arryn.
Baelish is now the Lord Protector of the Vale until Robin comes of age, so he's in control for the forseeable future.
The assumption is that the north will rally around the Starks when the time comes, so as long as he holds on to Sansa, he'd have control over Winterfell as well.
He has control of 2/7 kingdoms now (Harrenhall, the Eyrie), with eventual plans on the third (Winterfell). He's got to be playing the long game, but I can't see what he would go for after Winterfell, maybe Riverrun?
Harrenhal is not one of the seven kingdoms. The kingdoms, and their seats, are as follows: The North, Winterfell; The Iron Islands, Pyke; The Riverlands (Harrenhal is located here), Riverrun; The Vale, the Eyrie; The Westerlands, Casterly Rock; The Reach, Highgarden; The Stormlands, Storm's End.
Dorne was added as the eight kingdom sometime later. The region where King's Landing is locatede is referred to as the Crownlands.
Wasn't Harrenhall (despite being a crumbing castle) given control of the Riverlands after Riverrun rebelled with the North? Or did the Lannisters give it to Walder Frey?
Post by: ydarg2012 on May 20, 2014, 10:27:03 AM
Unless there's something they haven't talked about yet in the show, there's not a reason for Baelish to kill off Robin Arryn.
Baelish is now the Lord Protector of the Vale until Robin comes of age, so he's in control for the forseeable future.
The assumption is that the north will rally around the Starks when the time comes, so as long as he holds on to Sansa, he'd have control over Winterfell as well.
He has control of 2/7 kingdoms now (Harrenhall, the Eyrie), with eventual plans on the third (Winterfell). He's got to be playing the long game, but I can't see what he would go for after Winterfell, maybe Riverrun?
Harrenhal is not one of the seven kingdoms. The kingdoms, and their seats, are as follows: The North, Winterfell; The Iron Islands, Pyke; The Riverlands (Harrenhal is located here), Riverrun; The Vale, the Eyrie; The Westerlands, Casterly Rock; The Reach, Highgarden; The Stormlands, Storm's End.
Dorne was added as the eight kingdom sometime later. The region where King's Landing is locatede is referred to as the Crownlands.
Ok. . . .So he would potentially control The North, The Riverlands, and The Vale? He is going about this much smarter than Rob. I just googled a map of Westeros. . .man the North is a huge chunk of it. I feel like knowing that shifts how powerful Winterfell should be. . and how sad it is that i is no longer controlled by the Starks. What is the viable next move then? The Iron Islands are about to be messed up by Reek causing trouble.
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 20, 2014, 11:25:01 AM
Harrenhal became "the seat" of the Riverlands after it was given to Petyr by Joffrey. House Tully did not go the way of House Reyne. The curse of Harren the Black ought to right things sometime in the future. *not a spoiler of any sort*
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 20, 2014, 01:04:50 PM
Unless there's something they haven't talked about yet in the show, there's not a reason for Baelish to kill off Robin Arryn.
Baelish is now the Lord Protector of the Vale until Robin comes of age, so he's in control for the forseeable future.
The assumption is that the north will rally around the Starks when the time comes, so as long as he holds on to Sansa, he'd have control over Winterfell as well.
He has control of 2/7 kingdoms now (Harrenhall, the Eyrie), with eventual plans on the third (Winterfell). He's got to be playing the long game, but I can't see what he would go for after Winterfell, maybe Riverrun?
Harrenhal is not one of the seven kingdoms. The kingdoms, and their seats, are as follows: The North, Winterfell; The Iron Islands, Pyke; The Riverlands (Harrenhal is located here), Riverrun; The Vale, the Eyrie; The Westerlands, Casterly Rock; The Reach, Highgarden; The Stormlands, Storm's End.
Dorne was added as the eight kingdom sometime later. The region where King's Landing is locatede is referred to as the Crownlands.
Ok. . . .So he would potentially control The North, The Riverlands, and The Vale? He is going about this much smarter than Rob. I just googled a map of Westeros. . .man the North is a huge chunk of it. I feel like knowing that shifts how powerful Winterfell should be. . and how sad it is that i is no longer controlled by the Starks. What is the viable next move then? The Iron Islands are about to be messed up by Reek causing trouble.
Yeah, but no one wants to live in the North because it is so cold and because that's the first place that Wildlings (and Wights) attack when they come south of the Wall.
Post by: LHarKSUCat on May 20, 2014, 02:07:00 PM
Unless there's something they haven't talked about yet in the show, there's not a reason for Baelish to kill off Robin Arryn.
Baelish is now the Lord Protector of the Vale until Robin comes of age, so he's in control for the forseeable future.
The assumption is that the north will rally around the Starks when the time comes, so as long as he holds on to Sansa, he'd have control over Winterfell as well.
He has control of 2/7 kingdoms now (Harrenhall, the Eyrie), with eventual plans on the third (Winterfell). He's got to be playing the long game, but I can't see what he would go for after Winterfell, maybe Riverrun?
Harrenhal is not one of the seven kingdoms. The kingdoms, and their seats, are as follows: The North, Winterfell; The Iron Islands, Pyke; The Riverlands (Harrenhal is located here), Riverrun; The Vale, the Eyrie; The Westerlands, Casterly Rock; The Reach, Highgarden; The Stormlands, Storm's End.
Dorne was added as the eight kingdom sometime later. The region where King's Landing is locatede is referred to as the Crownlands.
Actually, Dorne is one of the seven kingdoms. The Iron Islands combined with the Riverlands as "The Kingdom of the Isles and Rivers" when the Iron Borne conquered the Riverlands before the Targaryens showed up and took over. So the Seven Kingdoms weren't the Seven Kingdoms until Dorne was brought into the realm with the marriage between the Martells and Targaryens brought it in diplomatically.
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 20, 2014, 02:15:17 PM
Unless there's something they haven't talked about yet in the show, there's not a reason for Baelish to kill off Robin Arryn.
Baelish is now the Lord Protector of the Vale until Robin comes of age, so he's in control for the forseeable future.
The assumption is that the north will rally around the Starks when the time comes, so as long as he holds on to Sansa, he'd have control over Winterfell as well.
He has control of 2/7 kingdoms now (Harrenhall, the Eyrie), with eventual plans on the third (Winterfell). He's got to be playing the long game, but I can't see what he would go for after Winterfell, maybe Riverrun?
Harrenhal is not one of the seven kingdoms. The kingdoms, and their seats, are as follows: The North, Winterfell; The Iron Islands, Pyke; The Riverlands (Harrenhal is located here), Riverrun; The Vale, the Eyrie; The Westerlands, Casterly Rock; The Reach, Highgarden; The Stormlands, Storm's End.
Dorne was added as the eight kingdom sometime later. The region where King's Landing is locatede is referred to as the Crownlands.
Actually, Dorne is one of the seven kingdoms. The Iron Islands combined with the Riverlands as "The Kingdom of the Isles and Rivers" when the Iron Borne conquered the Riverlands before the Targaryens showed up and took over. So the Seven Kingdoms weren't the Seven Kingdoms until Dorne was brought into the realm with the marriage between the Martells and Targaryens brought it in diplomatically.
Dorne maybe included as one of the seven kingdoms, but the Targaryen conquest split The Kingdom of the Isles and Rivers into two distinct kingdoms. Dorne was added as the eighth two centuries later.
Post by: Demo158 on May 20, 2014, 08:38:35 PM
Hafthor is by far the most physically able to portray the character and will look the most natural swinging a giant claymore around. The Mountain is supposed to be giant and freakishly athletic and he will nail both of those aspects. Conan probably had a better face and demeanor but that is much less important than the physicality of the role. Idk WTF they were thinking with that twit in the second season, just awful.My gripe about new mountain is he looks too nice and cuddly, the other guys looked like total assholes
for reference
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Post by: ydarg2012 on May 21, 2014, 10:58:25 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rct8l4_ezJs&list=UUPRUgAl_MV9PajsrG_BmT9w&feature=share&index=2
Post by: LHarKSUCat on May 21, 2014, 01:16:53 PM
Unless there's something they haven't talked about yet in the show, there's not a reason for Baelish to kill off Robin Arryn.
Baelish is now the Lord Protector of the Vale until Robin comes of age, so he's in control for the forseeable future.
The assumption is that the north will rally around the Starks when the time comes, so as long as he holds on to Sansa, he'd have control over Winterfell as well.
He has control of 2/7 kingdoms now (Harrenhall, the Eyrie), with eventual plans on the third (Winterfell). He's got to be playing the long game, but I can't see what he would go for after Winterfell, maybe Riverrun?
Harrenhal is not one of the seven kingdoms. The kingdoms, and their seats, are as follows: The North, Winterfell; The Iron Islands, Pyke; The Riverlands (Harrenhal is located here), Riverrun; The Vale, the Eyrie; The Westerlands, Casterly Rock; The Reach, Highgarden; The Stormlands, Storm's End.
Dorne was added as the eight kingdom sometime later. The region where King's Landing is locatede is referred to as the Crownlands.
Actually, Dorne is one of the seven kingdoms. The Iron Islands combined with the Riverlands as "The Kingdom of the Isles and Rivers" when the Iron Borne conquered the Riverlands before the Targaryens showed up and took over. So the Seven Kingdoms weren't the Seven Kingdoms until Dorne was brought into the realm with the marriage between the Martells and Targaryens brought it in diplomatically.
Dorne maybe included as one of the seven kingdoms, but the Targaryen conquest split The Kingdom of the Isles and Rivers into two distinct kingdoms. Dorne was added as the eighth two centuries later.
When Aegon used dragons to conquer the seven individually ruled kingdoms that existed on the mainland and forged a huge, strong empire. The Kingdoms were: The Kingdom of the North, the Kingdom of Mountain and Vale, the Kingdom of the Isles and Rivers, Kingdom of the Rock, Kingdom of the Reach, Kingdom of the Stormlands and Dorne.
Aegon managed to conquer only six of the seven kingdoms, consolidating them under the rule of House Targaryen and the Iron Throne. Dorne was joined to the realm only two centuries later through diplomatic means, after a few hurdles on the way, thus making the name somewhat inaccurate.
There are 9 "administrative regions" of which the Iron Islands are one ... They are not alone one of the "seven kingdoms".
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Seven_Kingdoms (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Seven_Kingdoms)
Post by: ydarg2012 on May 21, 2014, 02:37:51 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 21, 2014, 03:27:06 PM
Unless there's something they haven't talked about yet in the show, there's not a reason for Baelish to kill off Robin Arryn.
Baelish is now the Lord Protector of the Vale until Robin comes of age, so he's in control for the forseeable future.
The assumption is that the north will rally around the Starks when the time comes, so as long as he holds on to Sansa, he'd have control over Winterfell as well.
He has control of 2/7 kingdoms now (Harrenhall, the Eyrie), with eventual plans on the third (Winterfell). He's got to be playing the long game, but I can't see what he would go for after Winterfell, maybe Riverrun?
Harrenhal is not one of the seven kingdoms. The kingdoms, and their seats, are as follows: The North, Winterfell; The Iron Islands, Pyke; The Riverlands (Harrenhal is located here), Riverrun; The Vale, the Eyrie; The Westerlands, Casterly Rock; The Reach, Highgarden; The Stormlands, Storm's End.
Dorne was added as the eight kingdom sometime later. The region where King's Landing is locatede is referred to as the Crownlands.
Actually, Dorne is one of the seven kingdoms. The Iron Islands combined with the Riverlands as "The Kingdom of the Isles and Rivers" when the Iron Borne conquered the Riverlands before the Targaryens showed up and took over. So the Seven Kingdoms weren't the Seven Kingdoms until Dorne was brought into the realm with the marriage between the Martells and Targaryens brought it in diplomatically.
Dorne maybe included as one of the seven kingdoms, but the Targaryen conquest split The Kingdom of the Isles and Rivers into two distinct kingdoms. Dorne was added as the eighth two centuries later.
When Aegon used dragons to conquer the seven individually ruled kingdoms that existed on the mainland and forged a huge, strong empire. The Kingdoms were: The Kingdom of the North, the Kingdom of Mountain and Vale, the Kingdom of the Isles and Rivers, Kingdom of the Rock, Kingdom of the Reach, Kingdom of the Stormlands and Dorne.
Aegon managed to conquer only six of the seven kingdoms, consolidating them under the rule of House Targaryen and the Iron Throne. Dorne was joined to the realm only two centuries later through diplomatic means, after a few hurdles on the way, thus making the name somewhat inaccurate.
There are 9 "administrative regions" of which the Iron Islands are one ... They are not alone one of the "seven kingdoms".
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Seven_Kingdoms (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Seven_Kingdoms)
I know the backstory. Thanks for linking me the wiki article that I've read before. The title "Ruler of the Seven Kingdoms" existed, from my understanding, since Aegon I was anointed in Oldtown. There are several logical conclusions we can reach from this, either Aegon I or the High Septon couldn't count, Aegon I didn't care that he hadn't conquered Dorne but was going to claim that he ruled the Dornish anyway, or, the most likely possibility, he counted the Iron Islands and the Riverlands as separate kingdoms.
It's possible that Aegon I had enough hubris to completely ignore his failure to conquer Dorne, but I feel like the most likely possibility is the last explanation I offered. Either way, Dorne was the eighth kingdom added to the realm. Source: rough ridin' math.
Post by: ydarg2012 on May 21, 2014, 03:48:31 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 21, 2014, 03:52:08 PM
Only way to settle this is to ask GRRM personally. If someone composes the tweet for me I'll ask him straight up via the interwebs.
Dear GRRM, What are the Seven Kingdoms? Yours Truly, ydarg2012
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 21, 2014, 03:54:36 PM
Only way to settle this is to ask GRRM personally. If someone composes the tweet for me I'll ask him straight up via the interwebs.
Dear GRRM, What are the Seven Kingdoms? Yours Truly, ydarg2012
If the question is phrased that way, you'll get the answer that LHgenericbenderavatarCat gave.
Post by: ydarg2012 on May 21, 2014, 03:57:56 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 21, 2014, 04:02:42 PM
Just tweeted: "@_GRRM_ Sir Martin, What were the official Seven Kingdoms when Aegon I became ruler? (considering Dorne wasn't conquered) TIA"
that account is ran by a fan, dude.
Post by: ydarg2012 on May 21, 2014, 04:16:24 PM
Just tweeted: "@_GRRM_ Sir Martin, What were the official Seven Kingdoms when Aegon I became ruler? (considering Dorne wasn't conquered) TIA"
that account is ran by a fan, dude.
He doesn't actually have a Twitter account. Just figured perhaps we could get a response from the massive fanbase?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 21, 2014, 04:21:03 PM
Just tweeted: "@_GRRM_ Sir Martin, What were the official Seven Kingdoms when Aegon I became ruler? (considering Dorne wasn't conquered) TIA"
that account is ran by a fan, dude.
He doesn't actually have a Twitter account. Just figured perhaps we could get a response from the massive fanbase?
That's probably because he is using a DOS computer. :lol:
Post by: ydarg2012 on May 21, 2014, 04:33:29 PM
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 21, 2014, 05:01:26 PM
?Kingdom of the North, ruled by House Stark of Winterfell
?Kingdom of the Mountain and the Vale, ruled by House Arryn of the Eyrie
?Kingdom of the Isles and Rivers, ruled by House Hoare (Baelish) of castle Harrenhal. Formed when the Iron Islands conquered the Riverlands.
?Kingdom of the Rock, ruled by House Lannister of Casterly Rock
?Kingdom of the Stormlands, ruled by House Durrandon of Storm's End
?Kingdom of the Reach, ruled by House Gardener of Highgarden
?Dorne, ruled by House Martell of Sunspear.
Post by: HerrSonntag on May 21, 2014, 10:12:07 PM
Also, the Twins are now the seat of the Riverlands now, as a reward for Frey's loyalty to the crown.
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 21, 2014, 10:36:03 PM
I thought the first season's Gregor was the best, the mountain doesn't need to be freakishly large by our standards, just by medieval standards.
Also, the Twins are now the seat of the Riverlands now, as a reward for Frey's loyalty to the crown.
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Post by: nicname on May 21, 2014, 10:58:30 PM
Post by: TownieCat on May 22, 2014, 11:35:32 AM
Post by: puniraptor on May 22, 2014, 11:39:33 AM
I have a feeling the Mountain is going to take out Oberyn. Sorry, @nicname :frown:
the better actor always wins. its clear that the mountain has unsustainably poor acting skills
Post by: TownieCat on May 22, 2014, 11:45:45 AM
I have a feeling the Mountain is going to take out Oberyn. Sorry, @nicname :frown:
the better actor always wins. its clear that the mountain has unsustainably poor acting skills
Championing for Tyrion seems to be Oberyn's role on the show. It makes sense for him to die now.
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Post by: Bloodfart on May 22, 2014, 11:48:43 AM
NSFW! Gay of Thrones.
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Post by: Benja on May 29, 2014, 01:20:25 PM
NERD ALERT
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Post by: TownieCat on June 01, 2014, 09:32:50 PM
The mountain will be fighting for tywin and I bet ober volunteers as champion for tyrion
Good call. In this scenario, what happens to Tyrion if the Mountain wins?
Finally caught up on the show --
Few options for the upcoming trial by combat:
- Oberyn wins: Tyrion is free, but probably has to leave Kings Landing.
- Mountain wins: Tyrion is sentenced to death. Probably escapes Kings Landing beforehand with Jamie's help.
- Oberyn and Mountain kill eachother: Retrial by combat? Probably escapes Kings Landing beforehand with Jamie's help.
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Post by: TownieCat on June 01, 2014, 09:33:26 PM
The mountain will be fighting for tywin and I bet ober volunteers as champion for tyrion
Good call. In this scenario, what happens to Tyrion if the Mountain wins?
Finally caught up on the show --
Few options for the upcoming trial by combat:
- Oberyn wins: Tyrion is free, but probably has to leave Kings Landing.
- Mountain wins: Tyrion is sentenced to death. Probably escapes Kings Landing beforehand with Jamie's help.
- Oberyn and Mountain kill eachother: Retrial by combat? Probably escapes Kings Landing beforehand with Jamie's help.
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Post by: Asteriskhead on June 01, 2014, 09:38:44 PM
That version of the mountain was horrible
It was perfect.
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Post by: The Whale on June 01, 2014, 10:27:43 PM
Also, we probably get the 102 vs 100, 000 fight at the wall next episode! :excited:
Post by: Benja on June 02, 2014, 12:07:29 AM
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Post by: mocat on June 02, 2014, 06:19:37 AM
So, even though the Mountain is probably dead too, because his kill was first and definitive, he gets the win?
Also, we probably get the 102 vs 100, 000 fight at the wall next episode! :excited:
The mountain is still alive
Post by: pissclams on June 02, 2014, 07:29:03 AM
So, even though the Mountain is probably dead too, because his kill was first and definitive, he gets the win?
Also, we probably get the 102 vs 100, 000 fight at the wall next episode! :excited:
The mountain is still alive
how could you tell?
Post by: mocat on June 02, 2014, 07:57:59 AM
Post by: pissclams on June 02, 2014, 08:05:07 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 02, 2014, 08:10:46 AM
Post by: TownieCat on June 02, 2014, 08:40:13 AM
So, even though the Mountain is probably dead too, because his kill was first and definitive, he gets the win?
Also, we probably get the 102 vs 100, 000 fight at the wall next episode! :excited:
The mountain is still alive
Medicine seems to be pretty advanced in Westeros. His wounds will heal and he'll be back to raping/slaughtering in no time.
Post by: The Whale on June 02, 2014, 09:04:53 AM
Post by: SabiNation on June 02, 2014, 09:39:53 AM
Post by: TownieCat on June 02, 2014, 09:46:01 AM
Guys that was brutal. Pretty disgusting really
I know. I always liked Sansa as a redhead. Not sure about her new goth look...
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 02, 2014, 09:48:35 AM
Guys that was brutal. Pretty disgusting really
I know. I always liked Sansa as a redhead. Not sure about her new goth look...
I wasn't even sure it was Sansa at first.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 02, 2014, 09:48:53 AM
Is it too late for Tyrion to say "Hey, you know what? How about I take the black instead?", or have we already crossed that bridge?
Too late.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 02, 2014, 10:19:13 AM
Post by: puniraptor on June 02, 2014, 10:22:30 AM
Man, talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. What a disappointing end to an otherwise great episode. Lots of LOL moments. The look on the Hound's face. Oberin drinking before the fight.
personally disappointing, because i loved the oberyn character and actor. but better TV, because there is no way i would have got such an extreme emotional and visceral reaction to oberyn just killing him like i thought was happening.
Post by: Institutional Control on June 02, 2014, 10:50:41 AM
Post by: pissclams on June 02, 2014, 12:05:28 PM
Post by: Benja on June 02, 2014, 12:12:35 PM
I hate Cersei and her stupid smug smile.
Woman hates another woman color me surprised :sdeek:
Post by: Benja on June 02, 2014, 12:16:10 PM
That was really, really gross, btw.
Post by: pissclams on June 02, 2014, 12:16:42 PM
Post by: Benja on June 02, 2014, 12:22:29 PM
i think it came down to strong thumb pressure
I'd only try it if I had gloves on. Otherwise, gross amirite?
Post by: TownieCat on June 02, 2014, 12:27:40 PM
I'm trying to figure out the physics behind popping someone's head.
That was really, really gross, btw.
I actually googled this last night and found varying answers. The most common was ~15 psi.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 02, 2014, 12:28:43 PM
i think it came down to strong thumb pressure
I'd only try it if I had gloves on. Otherwise, gross amirite?
I don't think I'd be quite worried about it in a fight to the death.
Post by: Benja on June 02, 2014, 12:40:38 PM
I'm trying to figure out the physics behind popping someone's head.
That was really, really gross, btw.
I actually googled this last night and found varying answers. The most common was ~15 psi.
The amount of pressure you could apply seems very contingent on body weight and hand size.
Post by: Benja on June 02, 2014, 12:42:56 PM
i think it came down to strong thumb pressure
I'd only try it if I had gloves on. Otherwise, gross amirite?
I don't think I'd be quite worried about it in a fight to the death.
I wouldn't want eye juice all over me. During the show I was like, oh good he has gloves on, good call mountain.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 02, 2014, 12:45:35 PM
i think it came down to strong thumb pressure
I'd only try it if I had gloves on. Otherwise, gross amirite?
I don't think I'd be quite worried about it in a fight to the death.
I wouldn't want eye juice all over me. During the show I was like, oh good he has gloves on, good call mountain.
I hope he kept his mouth closed. :Yuck:
Post by: Benja on June 02, 2014, 12:54:32 PM
i think it came down to strong thumb pressure
I'd only try it if I had gloves on. Otherwise, gross amirite?
I don't think I'd be quite worried about it in a fight to the death.
I wouldn't want eye juice all over me. During the show I was like, oh good he has gloves on, good call mountain.
I hope he kept his mouth closed. :Yuck:
I know!
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 02, 2014, 12:56:48 PM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 02, 2014, 01:01:28 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 02, 2014, 01:01:36 PM
Hey how about all that talking guys? I thought the talking was really well done in this episode.
OK, but seriously Dany kicked Jorah to the curb!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 02, 2014, 01:03:33 PM
Post by: mocat on June 02, 2014, 01:03:45 PM
also pretty important scene with Jorah Mormont leaving Dany (I WONDER WHERE JORAH IS GOING TO GO YOU GUYS)
the Grey Worm / Missandei thing is pretty dumb, could deal without
i loved the 17 minute beetle smashing story, Tyrion :dubious:
The Theon/Reek stuff is fantastic.
Boltons! :curse:
Sansa! :love:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 02, 2014, 01:05:33 PM
pretty great dialogue from Dolorous Edd (the sourpuss guy on the Wall) per uge (uzhe? uje? i'm trying to shorten "usual")
also pretty important scene with Jorah Mormont leaving Dany (I WONDER WHERE JORAH IS GOING TO GO YOU GUYS)
the Grey Worm / Missandei thing is pretty dumb, could deal without
i loved the 17 minute beetle smashing story, Tyrion :dubious:
The Theon/Reek stuff is fantastic.
Boltons! :curse:
Sansa! :love:
I really thought there was going to be some point to the beetle story and he was going to have figured out why the guy was killing beetles by the end of it, but no.
Post by: Benja on June 02, 2014, 01:06:02 PM
Hey how about all that talking guys? I thought the talking was really well done in this episode.
OK, but seriously Dany kicked Jorah to the curb!
She had a really good angry face.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 02, 2014, 01:06:50 PM
Post by: Benja on June 02, 2014, 01:07:02 PM
i loved the 17 minute beetle smashing story, Tyrion :dubious:
:lol:
Post by: puniraptor on June 02, 2014, 01:08:36 PM
I liked the beetle story, mostly because I knew that it was about what the Mountain was going to do to Oberyn.
yeah, i think the point was that cousin ed:beetles::mountain:peoples
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Post by: Benja on June 02, 2014, 01:14:12 PM
pretty great dialogue from Dolorous Edd (the sourpuss guy on the Wall) per uge (uzhe? uje? i'm trying to shorten "usual")
also pretty important scene with Jorah Mormont leaving Dany (I WONDER WHERE JORAH IS GOING TO GO YOU GUYS)
the Grey Worm / Missandei thing is pretty dumb, could deal without
i loved the 17 minute beetle smashing story, Tyrion :dubious:
The Theon/Reek stuff is fantastic.
Boltons! :curse:
Sansa! :love:
I really thought there was going to be some point to the beetle story and he was going to have figured out why the guy was killing beetles by the end of it, but no.
It was supposed to be an eloquent way of saying some people just kill things and there is no reason it's just in their nature, or something, but it came off as kind of a dumb long story.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 02, 2014, 01:15:27 PM
Arya :lol:
Sansa :D
Jon :ohno:
Jorah :cry:
The eff is up with the Missandei/ Grey Worm bullshit? Dumb.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 02, 2014, 01:16:19 PM
The eff is up with the Missandei/ Grey Worm bullshit? Dumb.
Yeah, that's weird.
Post by: Benja on June 02, 2014, 01:21:10 PM
The eff is up with the Missandei/ Grey Worm bullshit? Dumb.
Yeah, that's weird.
TV writer head guy: Ok, George RR Martin gave us a pretty good story line to work with here, but what can we add to really take this episode to the next level?
Other TV writers: More boobs?
Tv writer head guy: Yes, boobs!
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 02, 2014, 01:24:03 PM
Post by: puniraptor on June 02, 2014, 01:24:46 PM
It's going to end with Missandei figuring out, one way or another, how much of his "manhood" Grey Worm is left with. It's stupid.
we all will get to figure it out!
Post by: mocat on June 02, 2014, 01:26:15 PM
It's going to end with Missandei figuring out, one way or another, how much of his "manhood" Grey Worm is left with. It's stupid.
they can still scissor, right?
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 02, 2014, 03:04:22 PM
Walking Dead follows a similar action:exposition ratio, except the exposition is boring and lame, which is why that show sucks. Without good dialogue, the fighting in GoT would get boring and repetitive, just like Walking Dead.
Post by: Benja on June 02, 2014, 03:09:53 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 02, 2014, 03:13:35 PM
Not bad, but glad I am watching for free.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 02, 2014, 03:14:31 PM
Yeah if you don't like the (extremely well-crafted) dialogue you really might as well not watch, because it's admittedly 90% of the show.
Boobs are at least 10% and fighting another 10%.
Post by: Benja on June 02, 2014, 03:22:13 PM
Yeah if you don't like the (extremely well-crafted) dialogue you really might as well not watch, because it's admittedly 90% of the show.
Boobs are at least 10% and fighting another 10%.
forgot about boobs
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 02, 2014, 03:23:42 PM
Yeah if you don't like the (extremely well-crafted) dialogue you really might as well not watch, because it's admittedly 90% of the show.
Boobs are at least 10% and fighting another 10%.
forgot about boobs
The boobs usually come with dialogue, though.
Post by: Gooch on June 02, 2014, 07:05:07 PM
Yeah, that pisses me right the eff off.Yeah if you don't like the (extremely well-crafted) dialogue you really might as well not watch, because it's admittedly 90% of the show.
Boobs are at least 10% and fighting another 10%.
forgot about boobs
The boobs usually come with dialogue, though.
Post by: nicname on June 03, 2014, 02:41:18 AM
What if they both lose? :dunno:
Yes, it's the only way.
Post by: nicname on June 03, 2014, 02:43:34 AM
the producers of the show tend to leave no doubt when a character dies, yknow?
Tyrion and The Mountain = suspenseful M-Sat (less for me).
The Mountain isn't so much suspenseful out of care for his lame ass (sorry to MH, Oberyn is much more interesting imo).
Post by: nicname on June 03, 2014, 02:44:13 AM
I hate Cersei and her stupid smug smile.
That bitch.
Post by: nicname on June 03, 2014, 02:48:22 AM
That episode sums up the show pretty well. Bunch of boring talking, then 2 minutes of the episode is something crazy happening. Everyone talks about the crazy thing that happened, no one discusses all the boring talking that happened.
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Post by: nicname on June 03, 2014, 02:50:35 AM
Hey how about all that talking guys? I thought the talking was really well done in this episode.
OK, but seriously Dany kicked Jorah to the curb!
Huge mistake and character flaw on her part. He'll redeem himself. She better show humility when he does, or she's a lost cause.
Post by: nicname on June 03, 2014, 02:55:22 AM
pretty great dialogue from Dolorous Edd (the sourpuss guy on the Wall) per uge (uzhe? uje? i'm trying to shorten "usual")
also pretty important scene with Jorah Mormont leaving Dany (I WONDER WHERE JORAH IS GOING TO GO YOU GUYS)
the Grey Worm / Missandei thing is pretty dumb, could deal without
i loved the 17 minute beetle smashing story, Tyrion :dubious:
The Theon/Reek stuff is fantastic.
Boltons! :curse:
Sansa! :love:
I really thought there was going to be some point to the beetle story and he was going to have figured out why the guy was killing beetles by the end of it, but no.
It was supposed to be an eloquent way of saying some people just kill things and there is no reason it's just in their nature, or something, but it came off as kind of a dumb long story.
The allegory was nice, but I just enjoyed the brotherly memories/ conversation so near a presumable death. The worm/ Missandei was def :dunno:, then (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2FFSbIFVeWii6re%2Fgiphy.gif&hash=1317ae599ff14104ba3c2817feedd2a3f12ff2e7).
Love the rest though. I'm loving the dialogue.
Sansa is definitely worst to near first in my book.
Post by: nicname on June 03, 2014, 02:55:41 AM
Yeah if you don't like the (extremely well-crafted) dialogue you really might as well not watch, because it's admittedly 90% of the show.
Yes.
Post by: mocat on June 03, 2014, 08:03:32 AM
Quote from: Pedro Pascal
Buds.
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Post by: TownieCat on June 03, 2014, 10:19:00 AM
Hey how about all that talking guys? I thought the talking was really well done in this episode.
OK, but seriously Dany kicked Jorah to the curb!
Huge mistake and character flaw on her part. He'll redeem himself. She better show humility when he does, or she's a lost cause.
How is that a character flaw on Dany's part? She just found out that her most trusted advisor was once a spy. If anything, her character flaw was not ending Jorah's throat.
Post by: TownieCat on June 03, 2014, 10:20:08 AM
I'd let Hafthor handhug my head.
I'd be afraid to shake hands with Hafthor, let alone let him handhug my head. :runaway:
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 03, 2014, 10:30:36 AM
I'd let Hafthor handhug my head.
I'd be afraid to shake hands with Hafthor, let alone let him handhug my head. :runaway:
pfftt... gentle giant.
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Post by: Benja on June 03, 2014, 10:46:49 AM
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Post by: AppleJack on June 03, 2014, 12:41:22 PM
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Post by: HerrSonntag on June 03, 2014, 12:43:49 PM
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Post by: nicname on June 03, 2014, 12:45:54 PM
Hey how about all that talking guys? I thought the talking was really well done in this episode.
OK, but seriously Dany kicked Jorah to the curb!
Huge mistake and character flaw on her part. He'll redeem himself. She better show humility when he does, or she's a lost cause.
How is that a character flaw on Dany's part? She just found out that her most trusted advisor was once a spy. If anything, her character flaw was not ending Jorah's throat.
She's supposed to be a queen. She's supposed to use reason and mercy, use a little empathy. Jorah may have started out as a spy for Varys, but he didn't know her at that point. He's done nothing but support her for the longest time and also swore fealty to her. Out of all Daenerys' advisors, Jorah is the most trustworthy despite being a former spy. That's the rub.
It's true that she did show some restraint by not killing him instantly as she'd done so many times, but that's only a slight improvement to her black/ white line of thought when it comes to most situations.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 03, 2014, 12:51:53 PM
Hey how about all that talking guys? I thought the talking was really well done in this episode.
OK, but seriously Dany kicked Jorah to the curb!
Huge mistake and character flaw on her part. He'll redeem himself. She better show humility when he does, or she's a lost cause.
How is that a character flaw on Dany's part? She just found out that her most trusted advisor was once a spy. If anything, her character flaw was not ending Jorah's throat.
She's supposed to be a queen. She's supposed to use reason and mercy, use a little empathy. Jorah may have started out as a spy for Varys, but he didn't know her at that point. He's done nothing but support her for the longest time and also swore fealty to her. Out of all Daenerys' advisors, Jorah is the most trustworthy despite being a former spy. That's the rub.
It's true that she did show some restraint by not killing him instantly as she'd done so many times, but that's only a slight improvement to her black/ white line of thought when it comes to most situations.
She showed a lot of restraint by not killing him. He probably caused the death of her child because Varys/Tywin probably sent that witch lady who "cursed" her child. And then almost caused her death with that poisoned wine.
Yeah, it's only hurting her in the end because it had Tywin's intended consequence of removing her adviser from her, but can you really blame her?
Post by: Mr Bread on June 03, 2014, 01:00:49 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 03, 2014, 01:03:10 PM
Varys is pro-Targ in all respects. He is not bros with Tywin. Mirri Maz Duur was operating of her own accord. Bad crap happens unrelated to the Game occassionally imo. None of this is spoilers btw it's opinion.
Wasn't all of Jorah's info going through Varys?
Post by: star seed 7 on June 03, 2014, 01:06:17 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 03, 2014, 01:12:34 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on June 03, 2014, 01:16:59 PM
Varys is pro-Targ in all respects. He is not bros with Tywin. Mirri Maz Duur was operating of her own accord. Bad crap happens unrelated to the Game occassionally imo. None of this is spoilers btw it's opinion.
Wasn't all of Jorah's info going through Varys?
Exactly. He controlled what if any info got through and to whom. Also gives him the appearance of always having been on the side on anti-Targ, particularly for the late King Robert who despised them all.
Plus maybe you're forgetting he is best bros with Illyrio. Illyrio was Dany's benefactor and also the one who introduced Jora to her and arranged her wedding to Drogo. All according to he and Varys' plans. Total control. Only LF rivals Varys in playing the Game imo.
Illyrio visited KL to see Varys and scheme in season one iirc.
Post by: nicname on June 03, 2014, 01:19:13 PM
Hey how about all that talking guys? I thought the talking was really well done in this episode.
OK, but seriously Dany kicked Jorah to the curb!
Huge mistake and character flaw on her part. He'll redeem himself. She better show humility when he does, or she's a lost cause.
How is that a character flaw on Dany's part? She just found out that her most trusted advisor was once a spy. If anything, her character flaw was not ending Jorah's throat.
She's supposed to be a queen. She's supposed to use reason and mercy, use a little empathy. Jorah may have started out as a spy for Varys, but he didn't know her at that point. He's done nothing but support her for the longest time and also swore fealty to her. Out of all Daenerys' advisors, Jorah is the most trustworthy despite being a former spy. That's the rub.
It's true that she did show some restraint by not killing him instantly as she'd done so many times, but that's only a slight improvement to her black/ white line of thought when it comes to most situations.
She showed a lot of restraint by not killing him. He probably caused the death of her child because Varys/Tywin probably sent that witch lady who "cursed" her child. And then almost caused her death with that poisoned wine.
Yeah, it's only hurting her in the end because it had Tywin's intended consequence of removing her adviser from her, but can you really blame her?
You've read the books (AFAIK), so you may actually know these things, but I feel like that is grasping. He was loyal to her, for the most part, before he got his pardon, and completely loyal after.
To put it succinctly, despite the wrongs he's done to her, he's done right by her more than anyone else has.
Post by: Mr Bread on June 03, 2014, 01:20:30 PM
No way Varys could have known that Khal Drogo would have been cut in a fight and have a festering wound. That his a huge stretch.
Varys and Illyrio specifically schemed to get Dany married to Drogo so they could use his massive army to put a Targ back on the Iron Throne. They definitely did not want him killed. This was all stated pretty clearly when Arya was down in the tunnels under the red keep in KL and overheard them in season one.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 03, 2014, 01:21:08 PM
Varys is pro-Targ in all respects. He is not bros with Tywin. Mirri Maz Duur was operating of her own accord. Bad crap happens unrelated to the Game occassionally imo. None of this is spoilers btw it's opinion.
Wasn't all of Jorah's info going through Varys?
Exactly. He controlled what if any info got through and to whom. Also gives him the appearance of always having been on the side on anti-Targ, particularly for the late King Robert who despised them all.
Plus maybe you're forgetting he is best bros with Illyrio. Illyrio was Dany's benefactor and also the one who introduced Jora to her and arranged her wedding to Drogo. All according to he and Varys' plans. Total control. Only LF rivals Varys in playing the Game imo.
Illyrio visited KL to see Varys and scheme in season one iirc.
I was trying to remember if they showed who was talking in s1. That scene is somewhat glossed over in the show I think (don't really remember)
Post by: mocat on June 03, 2014, 01:22:29 PM
Post by: Benja on June 03, 2014, 01:24:33 PM
:sdeek:
Post by: mocat on June 03, 2014, 01:24:43 PM
Post by: puniraptor on June 03, 2014, 01:25:53 PM
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Post by: Mr Bread on June 03, 2014, 01:26:12 PM
Varys is pro-Targ in all respects. He is not bros with Tywin. Mirri Maz Duur was operating of her own accord. Bad crap happens unrelated to the Game occassionally imo. None of this is spoilers btw it's opinion.
Wasn't all of Jorah's info going through Varys?
Exactly. He controlled what if any info got through and to whom. Also gives him the appearance of always having been on the side on anti-Targ, particularly for the late King Robert who despised them all.
Plus maybe you're forgetting he is best bros with Illyrio. Illyrio was Dany's benefactor and also the one who introduced Jora to her and arranged her wedding to Drogo. All according to he and Varys' plans. Total control. Only LF rivals Varys in playing the Game imo.
Illyrio visited KL to see Varys and scheme in season one iirc.
I was trying to remember if they showed who was talking in s1. That scene is somewhat glossed over in the show I think (don't really remember)
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They were right on the screen for all to see. Arya didn't know them, but we did/do.
Post by: Benja on June 03, 2014, 01:29:32 PM
:D
Post by: Mr Bread on June 03, 2014, 01:36:27 PM
Post by: mocat on June 03, 2014, 01:37:51 PM
Post by: nicname on June 03, 2014, 01:40:16 PM
i bet the cast has a game they all play called "try not to hump Pedro today" and also i bet nobody ever wins that game
Cargo shorts.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 03, 2014, 02:09:51 PM
Varys is pro-Targ in all respects. He is not bros with Tywin. Mirri Maz Duur was operating of her own accord. Bad crap happens unrelated to the Game occassionally imo. None of this is spoilers btw it's opinion.
Wasn't all of Jorah's info going through Varys?
Exactly. He controlled what if any info got through and to whom. Also gives him the appearance of always having been on the side on anti-Targ, particularly for the late King Robert who despised them all.
Plus maybe you're forgetting he is best bros with Illyrio. Illyrio was Dany's benefactor and also the one who introduced Jora to her and arranged her wedding to Drogo. All according to he and Varys' plans. Total control. Only LF rivals Varys in playing the Game imo.
Illyrio visited KL to see Varys and scheme in season one iirc.
And still that guy almost killed Dany with the wine.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 03, 2014, 02:21:04 PM
No way Varys could have known that Khal Drogo would have been cut in a fight and have a festering wound. That his a huge stretch.
I'm not saying that Varys had anything to do with Drogo's death, I'm saying that maybe possibly what if Mirri Maz Duur just used that whole fetus' death in exchange for Drogo living as a cover for what she was already planning to do which was kill the fetus.
Or maybe Dany just blames Jorah for the death of her child even if it really is not connected to anyone in Westeros at all and so she really just wants him out of her sight and out of her city right now because she hates him right now and can't stand to look at his face, ok??
Post by: joda on June 03, 2014, 02:27:26 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on June 03, 2014, 02:42:23 PM
Varys is pro-Targ in all respects. He is not bros with Tywin. Mirri Maz Duur was operating of her own accord. Bad crap happens unrelated to the Game occassionally imo. None of this is spoilers btw it's opinion.
Wasn't all of Jorah's info going through Varys?
Exactly. He controlled what if any info got through and to whom. Also gives him the appearance of always having been on the side on anti-Targ, particularly for the late King Robert who despised them all.
Plus maybe you're forgetting he is best bros with Illyrio. Illyrio was Dany's benefactor and also the one who introduced Jora to her and arranged her wedding to Drogo. All according to he and Varys' plans. Total control. Only LF rivals Varys in playing the Game imo.
Illyrio visited KL to see Varys and scheme in season one iirc.
And still that guy almost killed Dany with the wine.
Manipulation, good grief Mrs. Gooch. From the show wiki:
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Daenerys tries to convince Drogo to invade so their son might claim the Iron Throne, but the Dothraki do not trust ships and water their horses cannot drink. Now that Viserys is dead, Drogo does not feel inclined to honor the bargain. A wineseller attempts to poison Daenerys to fulfill Robert's orders. She is rescued by Ser Jorah and Rakharo. Following the assassination attempt, Drogo reverses his decision and swears that he will lead his forces across the Narrow Sea and seize the Seven Kingdoms in blood and fire.
Varys used the weak ass poison attempt to get Drogo back on board with the invasion. He is very good at the Game.
Post by: Mr Bread on June 03, 2014, 02:47:58 PM
No way Varys could have known that Khal Drogo would have been cut in a fight and have a festering wound. That his a huge stretch.
I'm not saying that Varys had anything to do with Drogo's death, I'm saying that maybe possibly what if Mirri Maz Duur just used that whole fetus' death in exchange for Drogo living as a cover for what she was already planning to do which was kill the fetus.
Or maybe Dany just blames Jorah for the death of her child even if it really is not connected to anyone in Westeros at all and so she really just wants him out of her sight and out of her city right now because she hates him right now and can't stand to look at his face, ok??
Mirri Maz Duur hated the rapey, conquering Dothrakis. They destroyed her village and killed/raped her friends and family and beat and almost raped her and her reprieve was to be one of their slaves. She did whatever she could to hurt them, pay them back. Dany merely provided her with the opportunity. She was not anyone's agent.
Totally unrelated to Jorah or the Game. The Dothrakis got Dany's son killed. You eff with people sometimes you get mumped with.
Post by: puniraptor on June 03, 2014, 02:50:19 PM
Mirri Maz Duur hated the rapey, conquering Dothrakis. They destroyed her village and killed/raped her friends and family and beat and almost raped her and her reprieve was to be one of their slaves. She did whatever she could to hurt them, pay them back. Dany merely provided her with the opportunity. She was not anyone's agent.
yeah, not sure why anyone doesn't think this is plenty of motive
Post by: star seed 7 on June 03, 2014, 05:16:10 PM
Varys is pro-Targ in all respects. He is not bros with Tywin. Mirri Maz Duur was operating of her own accord. Bad crap happens unrelated to the Game occassionally imo. None of this is spoilers btw it's opinion.
Wasn't all of Jorah's info going through Varys?
Exactly. He controlled what if any info got through and to whom. Also gives him the appearance of always having been on the side on anti-Targ, particularly for the late King Robert who despised them all.
Plus maybe you're forgetting he is best bros with Illyrio. Illyrio was Dany's benefactor and also the one who introduced Jora to her and arranged her wedding to Drogo. All according to he and Varys' plans. Total control. Only LF rivals Varys in playing the Game imo.
Illyrio visited KL to see Varys and scheme in season one iirc.
I was trying to remember if they showed who was talking in s1. That scene is somewhat glossed over in the show I think (don't really remember)
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They were right on the screen for all to see. Arya didn't know them, but we did/do.
I SAID I DIDN'T REMEMBER, DICKWAD
Post by: Mr Bread on June 03, 2014, 06:28:56 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 03, 2014, 07:37:29 PM
Varys is pro-Targ in all respects. He is not bros with Tywin. Mirri Maz Duur was operating of her own accord. Bad crap happens unrelated to the Game occassionally imo. None of this is spoilers btw it's opinion.
Wasn't all of Jorah's info going through Varys?
Exactly. He controlled what if any info got through and to whom. Also gives him the appearance of always having been on the side on anti-Targ, particularly for the late King Robert who despised them all.
Plus maybe you're forgetting he is best bros with Illyrio. Illyrio was Dany's benefactor and also the one who introduced Jora to her and arranged her wedding to Drogo. All according to he and Varys' plans. Total control. Only LF rivals Varys in playing the Game imo.
Illyrio visited KL to see Varys and scheme in season one iirc.
And still that guy almost killed Dany with the wine.
Manipulation, good grief Mrs. Gooch. From the show wiki:QuoteDaenerys tries to convince Drogo to invade so their son might claim the Iron Throne, but the Dothraki do not trust ships and water their horses cannot drink. Now that Viserys is dead, Drogo does not feel inclined to honor the bargain. A wineseller attempts to poison Daenerys to fulfill Robert's orders. She is rescued by Ser Jorah and Rakharo. Following the assassination attempt, Drogo reverses his decision and swears that he will lead his forces across the Narrow Sea and seize the Seven Kingdoms in blood and fire.
Varys used the weak ass poison attempt to get Drogo back on board with the invasion. He is very good at the Game.
Good job today, Mr. Bread.
FWIW, neither Varys, Illyrio, Jorah or Rakharo are POV characters. For all we know, Jorah and/or Rakharo could have been given details about the assassination attempt.
Post by: Mr Bread on June 03, 2014, 08:27:28 PM
The book makes it seem more obvious that he was tipped off than the show imo. He leaves to get his Illyrio letter and won't let Dany come with and then comes back out of nowhere and puts a stop to the wine.
The show kind of makes it appear he might have gotten suspicious of the wine guy prior to stepping in because he's sort of watching from afar prior to stopping it.
Still Varys is too good to just leave his investment in Dany hanging for fat drunk King Robert to crap on from across the sea. Not to mention Varys is the one tasked with putting the hit out. He would know everything about how it was communicated and to who. More control.
Post by: Mr Bread on June 03, 2014, 08:33:50 PM
Post by: TownieCat on June 08, 2014, 11:25:48 AM
Post by: Benja on June 08, 2014, 08:20:07 PM
Post by: TownieCat on June 08, 2014, 10:05:52 PM
Also, add "ride a wooly mammoth" to my bucket list! :D
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 08, 2014, 10:23:33 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on June 08, 2014, 10:31:26 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 09, 2014, 01:58:18 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 09, 2014, 02:02:20 AM
I guess I'm confused what the point of this huge wall is if you're just going to build a door at the bottom of it for people to break into.
by that logic, castles shouldn't have gates either.
Post by: Benja on June 09, 2014, 03:26:00 AM
I guess I'm confused what the point of this huge wall is if you're just going to build a door at the bottom of it for people to break into.
by that logic, castles shouldn't have gates either.
plus nobody expected giants riding rough ridin' wooly mammoths to be trying to break it down.
Post by: TownieCat on June 09, 2014, 04:00:55 AM
I guess I'm confused what the point of this huge wall is if you're just going to build a door at the bottom of it for people to break into.
It's made of ice and appears to be several hundred miles long...Wouldn't it be easier to just carve a new tunnel somewhere else? Nope! Let's scale the damn thing! :lol:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 09, 2014, 08:39:06 AM
I guess I'm confused what the point of this huge wall is if you're just going to build a door at the bottom of it for people to break into.
It's made of ice and appears to be several hundred miles long...Wouldn't it be easier to just carve a new tunnel somewhere else? Nope! Let's scale the damn thing! :lol:
The Night's Watch used to send patrols out along the wall to watch out for that sort of thing.
Post by: RockState2000 on June 09, 2014, 09:20:53 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 09, 2014, 09:27:47 AM
What was up with such easy access into the Fort or whatever, but then they still try to scale the wall or go through the heaviest gate? I'm really confused as to why you don't focus at least a large part of your army at this much easier access point. Is the Fort actually on the North side of wall?
Castle Black is on the south side of the wall. Weren't you paying attention when Ygritte, Jon Snow, and that group of wildlings scaled the wall a while back and then headed south? That's so they could attack from the south as the big group was attacking from the North.
Castle Black is not heavily fortified to the south because they are expecting an attack from the north only.
Post by: RockState2000 on June 09, 2014, 09:30:17 AM
Post by: mocat on June 09, 2014, 09:38:02 AM
What was up with such easy access into the Fort or whatever, but then they still try to scale the wall or go through the heaviest gate? I'm really confused as to why you don't focus at least a large part of your army at this much easier access point. Is the Fort actually on the North side of wall?
Castle Black is on the south side of the wall. Weren't you paying attention when Ygritte, Jon Snow, and that group of wildlings scaled the wall a while back and then headed south? That's so they could attack from the south as the big group was attacking from the North.
Castle Black is not heavily fortified to the south because they are expecting an attack from the north only.
there was a really amazing camera take where it panned from the small group in the south, up past the fort and up the wall, and then ended with the view of the huge fire to the north
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 09, 2014, 09:53:35 AM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 09, 2014, 01:51:28 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 09, 2014, 01:53:36 PM
Why isn't anyone talking about how sad it was when Ygritte died in Jon Snow's arms?
Because that might have been the worst part of the episode. "Let's throw out all the guidelines we've used to shape the battle so far and have a heartfelt moment!"
Post by: mocat on June 09, 2014, 01:55:51 PM
Have we nerded out over the long take yet? WOWOW!!!!
i got tingly in all my fun parts when i realized what was happening
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 09, 2014, 02:01:10 PM
Why isn't anyone talking about how sad it was when Ygritte died in Jon Snow's arms?
Because that might have been the worst part of the episode. "Let's throw out all the guidelines we've used to shape the battle so far and have a heartfelt moment!"
Yeah, actually I think the book was more heart wrenching since they didn't even get a goodbye...but it was still sad dammit!
I had no such reaction because I was irritated by the departure from logic, but I'm clearly on the upswing of my aspie behavior right now. So it's whatever.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 09, 2014, 02:10:08 PM
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Post by: mocat on June 09, 2014, 02:27:49 PM
Post by: Benja on June 09, 2014, 02:50:50 PM
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Giants, who apparently are unaware that they are an endangered species, seem very keen on taking the most direct approach to death.
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The baddest chick in the seven kingdoms, killed by a third grader.
Then this happened.
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And this happened too, in one of the greatest tracking shots in history.
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And this guy, who just sucks all kinds of ass
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Post by: mocat on June 09, 2014, 02:56:03 PM
Post by: Benja on June 09, 2014, 02:56:51 PM
Post by: stunted on June 09, 2014, 03:24:07 PM
I really liked the hammer to the head instant death.
Post by: HerrSonntag on June 10, 2014, 11:02:49 AM
Dat single cut :love:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKuGWHyz-gI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKuGWHyz-gI)
Post by: puniraptor on June 10, 2014, 11:08:20 AM
Dat single cut :love:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKuGWHyz-gI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKuGWHyz-gI)
oh thats what you meant. i thought this was about somebody getting killed
Post by: mocat on June 10, 2014, 11:09:18 AM
Dat single cut :love:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKuGWHyz-gI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKuGWHyz-gI)
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Post by: The Whale on June 10, 2014, 04:29:07 PM
I came out of the episode a little disappointed though -- I think it was because there wasn't a huge twist at the end of the episode like the previous 2
-- Episode 7 -- Welp, episode's about over......and there goes Lysa.
-- Episode 8 -- Welp, looks like the Viper's going to win ...... and there goes his face.
Post by: AppleJack on June 11, 2014, 10:11:39 AM
Post by: Benja on June 11, 2014, 12:11:39 PM
I was rooting for the Giants :(
I thought it was weird how they were obviously a huge tactical advantage but everyone seemed fine with putting them directly in harms way without even big giant helmets on or anything five minutes into the battle.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 11, 2014, 12:31:50 PM
Post by: Benja on June 11, 2014, 01:00:05 PM
It's just a giant, unorganized horde of desperate individuals, most of whom have never fought in a battle before.
Yeah I get it in the context of the story. I'm just saying the giants were a little disappointing, battle-savvyness-wise.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 11, 2014, 01:13:50 PM
It's just a giant, unorganized horde of desperate individuals, most of whom have never fought in a battle before.
Yeah I get it in the context of the story. I'm just saying the giants were a little disappointing, battle-savvyness-wise.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 11, 2014, 01:19:50 PM
It's just a giant, unorganized horde of desperate individuals, most of whom have never fought in a battle before.
Yeah I get it in the context of the story. I'm just saying the giants were a little disappointing, battle-savvyness-wise.
There was only one mammoth. I guess they didn't have enough CGI budget to make another one.
Post by: Benja on June 11, 2014, 01:28:30 PM
Post by: The Whale on June 11, 2014, 01:55:47 PM
I feel like the giants should have been better, being that they were skilled warriors that had fought in many a battle
Or just have both of them hold up the gate and let everyone run through, since one can lift it up by himself.
Post by: Benja on June 11, 2014, 02:02:17 PM
I feel like the giants should have been better, being that they were skilled warriors that had fought in many a battle
Or just have both of them hold up the gate and let everyone run through, since one can lift it up by himself.
Or just get shot in the back of your stupid giant head while chasing around your pet mammoth
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 11, 2014, 02:44:14 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 11, 2014, 03:14:42 PM
If 'clams doesn't stop moving posts around I am going to post spoilers about what happens with those aliens that steal baby boys.
It's punishment because we can't have a master thread.
Post by: The Whale on June 11, 2014, 03:37:53 PM
I feel like the giants should have been better, being that they were skilled warriors that had fought in many a battle
Or just have both of them hold up the gate and let everyone run through, since one can lift it up by himself.
Or just get shot in the back of your stupid giant head while chasing around your pet mammoth
Did they just have one bolt for that massive crossbow? Seems like it would've been a pretty easy shot to take out the only mammoth since they were able to hit a running giant.
Post by: Mr Bread on June 11, 2014, 03:39:08 PM
If 'clams doesn't stop moving posts around I am going to post spoilers about what happens with those aliens that steal baby boys.
It's punishment because we can't have a master thread.
Mrs. Gooch put a fist full of sand right in his vahj that's for sure.
Post by: AppleJack on June 11, 2014, 04:23:22 PM
Post by: Benja on June 11, 2014, 04:26:52 PM
Post by: mocat on June 11, 2014, 04:30:13 PM
The giant in the tunnel was actually a 7 foot 8 inch former north carolina basketball player dressed in a giant suit. I'm not making that up.
"that guy is the hardest worker on the set" :flush:
Post by: puniraptor on June 11, 2014, 04:49:44 PM
The giant in the tunnel was actually a 7 foot 8 inch former north carolina basketball player dressed in a giant suit. I'm not making that up.
"that guy is the hardest worker on the set" :flush:
"strong fundamentals"
Post by: mocat on June 12, 2014, 09:31:25 AM
:D
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 12, 2014, 09:36:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itn8highTRo#t=29 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itn8highTRo#t=29)
:D
:love: :love: :love:
Post by: Mr Bread on June 12, 2014, 09:39:17 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 12, 2014, 09:48:30 AM
:Yuck: :dunno:
Do you prefer smooth jazz?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDvt5q6bt1s
Post by: mocat on June 12, 2014, 09:54:42 AM
Post by: Mr Bread on June 12, 2014, 10:45:01 AM
:Yuck: :dunno:
Do you prefer smooth jazz?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDvt5q6bt1s
Yeah, that's better to my earholes.
Post by: Mr Bread on June 12, 2014, 10:46:10 AM
i didn't mean to link it to a specific point 29 seconds into the video. maybe that's what he was dunno'ing :dunno:
No just didn't like it, not sure why exactly. Mrs. Gooch's smooth jazz one was good for me though.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 12, 2014, 10:56:29 AM
i didn't mean to link it to a specific point 29 seconds into the video. maybe that's what he was dunno'ing :dunno:
No just didn't like it, not sure why exactly. Mrs. Gooch's smooth jazz one was good for me though.
I actually prefer the vintage jazz one; and now I have a new jazz band to listen to. Also, I just looked up the definition of Swamp Donkey. LOL
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 12, 2014, 10:57:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itn8highTRo#t=29 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itn8highTRo#t=29)
:D
For the first time in my life, I think I know what it is to love.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 12, 2014, 11:00:42 AM
Post by: AppleJack on June 12, 2014, 11:36:50 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 12, 2014, 11:47:37 AM
Giants
They are v. cool. I hope we get to learn more about them.
Post by: Pete on June 15, 2014, 05:32:39 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 15, 2014, 05:55:21 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 15, 2014, 09:31:45 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 15, 2014, 09:36:45 PM
Did you guys cry when Dany had to put the dragons in chains?
Almost :frown:
Post by: joda on June 15, 2014, 10:29:41 PM
Did you guys cry when Dany had to put the dragons in chains?
Almost :frown:
It was a pretty gut wrenching scene. Shows how great the show is that they make you almost cry about chaining up dragons.
Post by: AppleJack on June 15, 2014, 10:45:46 PM
The Hound :frown:
Stanis :surprised:
Arya :emawkid:
Now we wait....like a year and a half :angry:
Post by: Benja on June 15, 2014, 11:09:34 PM
Did you guys cry when Dany had to put the dragons in chains?
Pretty much.
Post by: OK_Cat on June 15, 2014, 11:11:35 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 16, 2014, 12:11:25 AM
Post by: Benja on June 16, 2014, 12:18:35 AM
Those of you who are show only people, please give me your thoughts on Tyrion's final scenes in this episode.
I fist pumped like a [redacted].
Why, is it different in the books?
Post by: puniraptor on June 16, 2014, 12:19:08 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 16, 2014, 12:24:34 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 16, 2014, 12:26:54 AM
Post by: Benja on June 16, 2014, 12:33:33 AM
Let me be a little more clear, I specifically want to know how you feel about Tyrion murdering his father.
I thought it was cool they did it while he was taking a crap.
The dialogue was a little sparse. I would have thought they would have a deeper moment but instead they seemed to want to make Tywin really easy to want dead.
Post by: OK_Cat on June 16, 2014, 08:20:36 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 16, 2014, 08:42:06 AM
Was Shae a scheme the whole time?
I don't think that's clear yet.
"As to precisely what happened here, that’s something I don’t really want to talk about because there’s still aspects of it I haven’t revealed that will be revealed in later books." - GRRM
Post by: The Whale on June 16, 2014, 09:22:05 AM
Tywin did say something that got overlooked though -- something to the effect of: "You are my son, I wasn't going to let them take your head". I wanted to see what the plan had been, but whatever.
Also, Varys is a master at the game. One step closer to getting a Targaryan back on the throne, now with a weak king and the Lannisters crippled.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 16, 2014, 09:28:17 AM
I thought it was pretty well done - using the same crossbow that killed Roz (I know she doesn't exist in the books, but it worked).
Tywin did say something that got overlooked though -- something to the effect of: "You are my son, I wasn't going to let them take your head". I wanted to see what the plan had been, but whatever.
Also, Varys is a master at the game. One step closer to getting a Targaryan back on the throne, now with a weak king and the Lannisters crippled.
I don't think he had a plan or was even planning to save Tyrion. He was just saying that to try to not get killed.
Post by: The Whale on June 16, 2014, 09:35:08 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 16, 2014, 09:38:25 AM
So was Oberyn's spear poisoned when he was fighting the Mountain? There wasn't much that would have indicated it in that episode, but they were talking as if he'd been poisoned.
Yes, Oberyn is known to use poison.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 16, 2014, 10:05:05 AM
Let me be a little more clear, I specifically want to know how you feel about Tyrion murdering his father.
I thought it was cool they did it while he was taking a crap.
The dialogue was a little sparse. I would have thought they would have a deeper moment but instead they seemed to want to make Tywin really easy to want dead.
They cut some stuff from the books that accomplishes this. I was pretty angry about it, and thought that the scenes seemed poorly done, but it seems that you guys can live with it.
Post by: pissclams on June 16, 2014, 10:42:42 AM
off to lucha for some margs via a box on a boat.
Post by: Benja on June 16, 2014, 11:55:49 AM
I get that the show and the books, besides just being extremely well done, are ramped up a notch by the shock and counter-culture factor of killing off well-liked characters when you don't expect it. But, if you're only cutting off good guys heads it has the same effect as shows where only bad guys die; eventually you don't care.
I'm glad they gave some points to the good guys in this one, so they can resume killing off every awesome person with the shock factor intact.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 16, 2014, 12:18:39 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 16, 2014, 12:36:21 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 16, 2014, 12:37:42 PM
So The Hound was a bad guy?
that depends.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 16, 2014, 12:38:41 PM
So The Hound was a bad guy?
Yes, and a good guy - sort of.
Post by: puniraptor on June 16, 2014, 12:39:02 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 16, 2014, 12:45:59 PM
So The Hound was a bad guy?
Yes, and a good guy - sort of.
Other than the Miken incident, what made him a bad guy?
Post by: Benja on June 16, 2014, 12:56:19 PM
That's the thing, it's not a good v. bad situation. It's supposed to be as close to a "real" world as possible. Everybody thinks of themselves as the good guy. If you're Cersei Lannister, all of your actions are justified. Renly, Stannis, Rob Stark, they are the bad guys from her perspective. I don't think the show accomplishes this very well, because it doesn't make for great tv. TV watchers don't want to think. They want a knight in shining armor to vanquish a terrible scourge and woo a pretty lady.
No I get that, I'm talking about how tv writers (not even necessarily the writers for this show) talk about how an audience will react. I think it's just natural, regardless of the principles of a show (in this case, no good or bad just people). I think this episode was good for the show in the long run as there probably won't be another "feel good" episode for a couple seasons.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 16, 2014, 12:58:08 PM
So The Hound was a bad guy?
Yes, and a good guy - sort of.
Other than the Miken incident, what made him a bad guy?
I think killing a kid for no good reason is a pretty good reason to consider him bad. And just because originally he was on the side of Joffery and pretty much did whatever he said. He also helped in the slaughter of Ned's household guard.
He's on Arya's list even when she is with him so she considered him bad.
Post by: Benja on June 16, 2014, 12:59:24 PM
So The Hound was a bad guy?
Yes, and a good guy - sort of.
Such is life, Mrs. Gooch. Such is life.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 16, 2014, 01:05:04 PM
So The Hound was a bad guy?
Yes, and a good guy - sort of.
Other than the Miken incident, what made him a bad guy?
Well, he did rob those innocent people who fed him and Arya, and like to kill people in general.
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 16, 2014, 01:30:34 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 16, 2014, 01:31:38 PM
I never got what The Hound's motivation for helping her was.
Well to begin with he just wanted to get some ransom money for her, but then she kind of grew on him as they traveled together.
Post by: Benja on June 16, 2014, 01:34:14 PM
I never got what The Hound's motivation for helping her was.
Well to begin with he just wanted to get some ransom money for her, but then she kind of grew on him as they traveled together.
Yeah they bonded when Arya tried to squish his head with a rock while he was sleeping.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 16, 2014, 01:43:26 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 16, 2014, 02:03:20 PM
So The Hound was a bad guy?
Yes, and a good guy - sort of.
Other than the Miken incident, what made him a bad guy?
I think killing a kid for no good reason is a pretty good reason to consider him bad. And just because originally he was on the side of Joffery and pretty much did whatever he said. He also helped in the slaughter of Ned's household guard.
He's on Arya's list even when she is with him so she considered him bad.
He either had to follow his orders or get killed himself. His SOLE motivation for continuing to live is to kill his brother. He made his choices based upon that, until he semi-befriends Sansa (in his own weird way) at Kings Landing. He's a broken human being, not an evil one. Gregor, Viserys, Joff and the Boltons are the only pure evil characters in the story IMO.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 16, 2014, 02:12:28 PM
So The Hound was a bad guy?
Yes, and a good guy - sort of.
Other than the Miken incident, what made him a bad guy?
I think killing a kid for no good reason is a pretty good reason to consider him bad. And just because originally he was on the side of Joffery and pretty much did whatever he said. He also helped in the slaughter of Ned's household guard.
He's on Arya's list even when she is with him so she considered him bad.
He either had to follow his orders or get killed himself. His SOLE motivation for continuing to live is to kill his brother. He made his choices based upon that, until he semi-befriends Sansa (in his own weird way) at Kings Landing. He's a broken human being, not an evil one. Gregor, Viserys, Joff and the Boltons are the only pure evil characters in the story IMO.
I said he was sort of bad and sort of good - as are most of the characters. I didn't say he was evil. Just because your life experiences and choices led you to have to do bad things that does not mean you didn't do those bad things.
Post by: Benja on June 16, 2014, 02:17:03 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 16, 2014, 02:19:12 PM
So maybe I'm being Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), but what was Stannis' motivation to ride north and quell the wildling army?
Melisandre's fire staring, IIRC.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 16, 2014, 02:20:03 PM
So maybe I'm being Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), but what was Stannis' motivation to ride north and quell the wildling army?
Red lady bits
Post by: Benja on June 16, 2014, 02:21:18 PM
Post by: The Whale on June 16, 2014, 02:37:51 PM
Post by: Benja on June 16, 2014, 02:40:53 PM
Post by: CHONGS on June 16, 2014, 03:45:35 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on June 16, 2014, 03:48:54 PM
Stannis' army is about to get much (99K) larger, isn't it?
He didn't pick up trained and armed troops. He got a bunch of wildling hobos.
Post by: CHONGS on June 16, 2014, 03:52:33 PM
:dubious: but with dangling hair.
Post by: Benja on June 16, 2014, 04:20:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L-S3xUlkQ4
Post by: nicname on June 17, 2014, 01:34:08 AM
Let me be a little more clear, I specifically want to know how you feel about Tyrion murdering his father.
A man who cares only about his legacy, murdered by his own son, on the shitter, hours after hearing from his daughter that she and his favorite son have been incestual for nearly two decades, all while, despite his best efforts to the contrary, one of his greatest achievements crumbles around him.
Perfectly fitting imo.
Post by: nicname on June 17, 2014, 01:35:29 AM
This isn't some sort of trick. I want to know what the opinions are of people who didn't know it was coming.
I felt he was vulnerable, but really his death — like King's Landing in general — seems very minor to me.
Post by: nicname on June 17, 2014, 01:36:53 AM
i enjoyed it. i mean, his father sentenced him to die for something that he knew he didn't do, and then he was screwing around with the woman that he loved. i enjoyed the irony of tywin being on a "throne" while he died.
ha, didn't think of that.
Post by: nicname on June 17, 2014, 01:41:39 AM
Let me be a little more clear, I specifically want to know how you feel about Tyrion murdering his father.
I thought it was cool they did it while he was taking a crap.
The dialogue was a little sparse. I would have thought they would have a deeper moment but instead they seemed to want to make Tywin really easy to want dead.
They cut some stuff from the books that accomplishes this. I was pretty angry about it, and thought that the scenes seemed poorly done, but it seems that you guys can live with it.
I know it won't hold much water with you as someone who has experienced this story thus far from the books, but I feel sorry for you that you are able to watch this show from a cynic's perspective (at least in some respect), and not just be able to freshly and fully enjoy it for what a great show it is.
FWIW, I would probably be doing the same if I'd read the books prior.
Post by: nicname on June 17, 2014, 01:43:33 AM
That's the thing, it's not a good v. bad situation. It's supposed to be as close to a "real" world as possible. Everybody thinks of themselves as the good guy. If you're Cersei Lannister, all of your actions are justified. Renly, Stannis, Rob Stark, they are the bad guys from her perspective. I don't think the show accomplishes this very well, because it doesn't make for great tv. TV watchers don't want to think. They want a knight in shining armor to vanquish a terrible scourge and woo a pretty lady.
Stop being so pretentious.
Post by: nicname on June 17, 2014, 01:45:29 AM
So The Hound was a bad guy?
Good guy to me. Was sad to see him die. That is one of the most maddening/ entertaining thing about the show to me. People in the show often don't see or understand what I feel is the true character of the other people in their lives.
Post by: nicname on June 17, 2014, 01:50:50 AM
He also obviously had a soft spot for young girls (no pedo)
Yeah. Also, I don't think he's dead.
Post by: Gooch on June 17, 2014, 08:38:33 AM
I don't think people with a compound fracture of the femur who fell off a cliff and left for dead miles from civilization usually bounce back.He also obviously had a soft spot for young girls (no pedo)
Yeah. Also, I don't think he's dead.
Post by: TownieCat on June 17, 2014, 08:39:12 AM
Those of you who are show only people, please give me your thoughts on Tyrion's final scenes in this episode.
Finally got around to watching it last night... The final scene with the Lannisters felt rushed. It was fitting for Tyrion to kill him though...if you're going to be convicted of murder you may as well commit the crime. Albeit, a different victim...
A couple of other thoughts...
- The Hound :bawl:
- Arya :love:
- Stannis :Ugh:
- Jon Snow :thumbs:
- Jaime/Cersei :Yuck:
- Varys :surprised:
- Dany :frown:
- Zombie skeletons :runaway:
Bran has the most boring storyline on the show, but unfortunately it appears to be one of the most important. I'm glad us show-only people get to wait a year to find out exactly what the hell is going on under that magic tree. :bang:
Post by: puniraptor on June 17, 2014, 08:44:48 AM
1. HIMYM
Post by: TownieCat on June 17, 2014, 08:49:33 AM
Trivia topics that I will burn this whole place down if included:
1. HIMYM
Wrong thread. And I totally disagree! :D
Post by: puniraptor on June 17, 2014, 08:51:32 AM
Trivia topics that I will burn this whole place down if included:
1. HIMYM
Wrong thread. And I totally disagree! :D
dammit :blindfold:
i was thinking about including GoT book only topics too which may have caused the crossed wires
Post by: Benja on June 17, 2014, 09:03:43 AM
Those of you who are show only people, please give me your thoughts on Tyrion's final scenes in this episode.
Finally got around to watching it last night... The final scene with the Lannisters felt rushed. It was fitting for Tyrion to kill him though...if you're going to be convicted of murder you may as well commit the crime. Albeit, a different victim...
A couple of other thoughts...
- The Hound :bawl:
- Arya :love:
- Stannis :Ugh:
- Jon Snow :thumbs:
- Jaime/Cersei :Yuck:
- Varys :surprised:
- Dany :frown:
- Zombie skeletons :runaway:
Bran has the most boring storyline on the show, but unfortunately it appears to be one of the most important. I'm glad us show-only people get to wait a year to find out exactly what the hell is going on under that magic tree. :bang:
Yeah that's true and I hope it changes. Every time the show starts focusing on him it turns all lord of the ringy and I start to lose interest. Which is pretty annoying when everything else is pretty great.
Post by: The Whale on June 17, 2014, 09:17:14 AM
Those of you who are show only people, please give me your thoughts on Tyrion's final scenes in this episode.
Finally got around to watching it last night... The final scene with the Lannisters felt rushed. It was fitting for Tyrion to kill him though...if you're going to be convicted of murder you may as well commit the crime. Albeit, a different victim...
A couple of other thoughts...
- The Hound :bawl:
- Arya :love:
- Stannis :Ugh:
- Jon Snow :thumbs:
- Jaime/Cersei :Yuck:
- Varys :surprised:
- Dany :frown:
- Zombie skeletons :runaway:
Bran has the most boring storyline on the show, but unfortunately it appears to be one of the most important. I'm glad us show-only people get to wait a year to find out exactly what the hell is going on under that magic tree. :bang:
Yeah that's true and I hope it changes. Every time the show starts focusing on him it turns all lord of the ringy and I start to lose interest. Which is pretty annoying when everything else is pretty great.
Yep, I'd rather see them show what's going on with Rickon.
So is the Bran stuff all beyond the books at this point? They could probably just leave him out of the next season or two and allow every other story line to catch up.
Post by: puniraptor on June 17, 2014, 09:27:56 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 17, 2014, 10:27:00 AM
that animated skeleton fireball kid sequence had a very Tim the Enchanter feel
At first I thought the aliens were shooting lasers.
Post by: puniraptor on June 17, 2014, 10:28:45 AM
that animated skeleton fireball kid sequence had a very Tim the Enchanter feel
At first I thought the aliens were shooting lasers.
SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!! :curse:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 17, 2014, 10:29:46 AM
that animated skeleton fireball kid sequence had a very Tim the Enchanter feel
At first I thought the aliens were shooting lasers.
SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!! :curse:
That's not a spoiler. The aliens didn't have lasers in the book.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 17, 2014, 11:18:34 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 17, 2014, 11:25:57 AM
Let me be a little more clear, I specifically want to know how you feel about Tyrion murdering his father.
I thought it was cool they did it while he was taking a crap.
The dialogue was a little sparse. I would have thought they would have a deeper moment but instead they seemed to want to make Tywin really easy to want dead.
They cut some stuff from the books that accomplishes this. I was pretty angry about it, and thought that the scenes seemed poorly done, but it seems that you guys can live with it.
I know it won't hold much water with you as someone who has experienced this story thus far from the books, but I feel sorry for you that you are able to watch this show from a cynic's perspective (at least in some respect), and not just be able to freshly and fully enjoy it for what a great show it is.
FWIW, I would probably be doing the same if I'd read the books prior.
I thought this finale was probably one of the top three episodes of the series. This is my favorite show on television. I get peeved when they alter things that I think shouldn't be altered. I get over it in short order. However, that scene, if done to it's full potential, could have won numerous awards for Dinklage, Dance and the production staff.
It's weird. I thoroughly enjoy the show. I am glad that someone took on the challenge of turning it into a television show. I realize that it is one of the best shows on television, at the moment, but I have high expectations because of the quality of the source material. Posting "good episode tonight," does not make for very good BBSing.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 17, 2014, 11:28:04 AM
Trivia topics that I will burn this whole place down if included:
1. HIMYM
Wrong thread. And I totally disagree! :D
dammit :blindfold:
i was thinking about including GoT book only topics too which may have caused the crossed wires
Pete has read the series, but there will only be like three other people in attendance who have read the series. I doubt he will do that.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 17, 2014, 11:31:06 AM
He also obviously had a soft spot for young girls (no pedo)
I think that was a coincidence. I feel like he befriended the Stark girls because they were people that he could relate to, damaged individuals. It also fits with GRRM's "Not A True Knight" theme, which you may or may not be familiar with.
Post by: TownieCat on June 17, 2014, 11:32:16 AM
Pete has read the series, but there will only be like three other people in attendance who have read the series. I doubt he will do that.
There would be several upset people if one of the few book people gave spoilers to the several show people.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 17, 2014, 11:33:15 AM
That's the thing, it's not a good v. bad situation. It's supposed to be as close to a "real" world as possible. Everybody thinks of themselves as the good guy. If you're Cersei Lannister, all of your actions are justified. Renly, Stannis, Rob Stark, they are the bad guys from her perspective. I don't think the show accomplishes this very well, because it doesn't make for great tv. TV watchers don't want to think. They want a knight in shining armor to vanquish a terrible scourge and woo a pretty lady.
Stop being so pretentious.
:dubious:
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 17, 2014, 11:34:43 AM
Pete has read the series, but there will only be like three other people in attendance who have read the series. I doubt he will do that.
There would be several upset people if one of the few book people gave spoilers to the several show people.
The show has covered over 2,500 pages of written material to this point. There's plenty there. :jerk:
Post by: puniraptor on June 17, 2014, 11:37:36 AM
Post by: TownieCat on June 17, 2014, 11:39:41 AM
Pete has read the series, but there will only be like three other people in attendance who have read the series. I doubt he will do that.
There would be several upset people if one of the few book people gave spoilers to the several show people.
The show has covered over 2,500 pages of written material to this point. There's plenty there. :jerk:
There is obviously plenty of material available. But the books also go further than the show has at this point. I don't see it being an issue though.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 17, 2014, 11:43:06 AM
I'm sorry MH, but your beloved book series may have jumped sharks with this aliens (non-laser bearing) twist.
That's not in the books. They developed that to circumvent spoiling, what I assume, is a later reveal for all of us. That, or they just didn't have the CGI budget to do what they really should have done.
Post by: CHONGS on June 17, 2014, 12:36:37 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 17, 2014, 12:48:30 PM
I think the HBO show has done an amazing job of compensating for Martin's pretty bad writing style (the dude can get super repetitive with his descriptors), and exorcised a lot of unneeded fat from the books. I honestly haven't disagreed with a decision HBO has made yet.
I disagree with you.
Post by: pissclams on June 17, 2014, 12:48:58 PM
Post by: CHONGS on June 17, 2014, 12:58:09 PM
"exorcised" is an interesting choice of words there, poster chingon. thoughts on swapping it for "rendered" ?I thought about it. I also almost went with "cut away". Maybe I was affected by watching Ghostbusters last night?
Post by: Mr Bread on June 17, 2014, 01:33:55 PM
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Post by: Belvis Noland on June 17, 2014, 04:50:49 PM
and then, in the last episode when he's facing death, she's just like, ahh, eff off, robs him, and leaves him for dead.
I guess it just shows that the hound had successfully molded her into a survivor, devoid of any moral fortitude (i.e. robbing/killing the guy who took them in).
Post by: nicname on June 17, 2014, 04:52:18 PM
I don't even know what is going on with Rickon.
Yeah, that's an interesting aspect. Where were Rickon and Osha going again?
Post by: CNS on June 17, 2014, 04:58:59 PM
Post by: puniraptor on June 17, 2014, 05:24:38 PM
I don't even know what is going on with Rickon.
Yeah, that's an interesting aspect. Where were Rickon and Osha going again?
i thought they were headed for the wall and jon snow
so wtf happened to them?
Post by: CNS on June 17, 2014, 06:57:42 PM
I don't even know what is going on with Rickon.
Yeah, that's an interesting aspect. Where were Rickon and Osha going again?
i thought they were headed for the wall and jon snow
so wtf happened to them?
I thought they were splitting up from bran and going to the Umbers or some other fam loyal to the starks.
Post by: Mr Bread on June 17, 2014, 07:10:39 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on June 17, 2014, 07:30:16 PM
i'm really glad the show hasn't mentioned boiled leather even once
How have they faired with nipples on a breast plate? I rough ridin' hate the word mummer.
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Post by: mocat on June 18, 2014, 07:14:39 AM
i'm really glad the show hasn't mentioned boiled leather even once
How have they faired with nipples on a breast plate? I rough ridin' hate the word mummer.
That's a good one.
Post by: mocat on June 18, 2014, 07:15:10 AM
Meat and mead
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Post by: Asteriskhead on June 18, 2014, 08:52:46 AM
Much and more
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a couple of times in the new
*I hate the word novella. I'm referring to them as short stories from now on.
Post by: puniraptor on June 18, 2014, 09:11:27 AM
Much and more
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a couple of times in the newnovellashort story.
*I hate the word novella. I'm referring to the as short stories from now on.
they really need a word for a novel that is much longer than the median novel
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a couple of times in the newnovellashort story.
*I hate the word novella. I'm referring to the as short stories from now on.
they really need a word for a novel that is much longer than the median novel
tome
Post by: mocat on June 18, 2014, 09:31:36 AM
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*I hate the word novella. I'm referring to the as short stories from now on.
they really need a word for a novel that is much longer than the median novel
a song of ice and fire
Post by: TownieCat on June 18, 2014, 09:59:18 AM
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Post by: Benja on June 18, 2014, 11:43:29 AM
so, back to arya and the hound. somebody explain the story arch of that relationship. I'm confused why her character just left him for dead instead of putting him out of his misery. I mean, at first blush, the hound is a heartless eff face that takes helpless Arya "prisoner" for self gain. but then, the show chooses to develop their characters and their relationship over an entire season. by the end, the hound's character has developed into a likeable father figure and arya embraces him. this development culminates with her mending his neck wound 'n such.
and then, in the last episode when he's facing death, she's just like, ahh, eff off, robs him, and leaves him for dead.
I guess it just shows that the hound had successfully molded her into a survivor, devoid of any moral fortitude (i.e. robbing/killing the guy who took them in).
I dunno. I haven't read the books but I think metalhead's right in that some of the more emotional scenes from the book are coming off a little rough in the show. That scene felt weird and so have a few others. I mean, I think it was right for the show that she just left him there, but something felt off in the execution.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 18, 2014, 11:47:40 AM
so, back to arya and the hound. somebody explain the story arch of that relationship. I'm confused why her character just left him for dead instead of putting him out of his misery. I mean, at first blush, the hound is a heartless eff face that takes helpless Arya "prisoner" for self gain. but then, the show chooses to develop their characters and their relationship over an entire season. by the end, the hound's character has developed into a likeable father figure and arya embraces him. this development culminates with her mending his neck wound 'n such.
and then, in the last episode when he's facing death, she's just like, ahh, eff off, robs him, and leaves him for dead.
I guess it just shows that the hound had successfully molded her into a survivor, devoid of any moral fortitude (i.e. robbing/killing the guy who took them in).
I dunno. I haven't read the books but I think metalhead's right in that some of the more emotional scenes from the book are coming off a little rough in the show. That scene felt weird and so have a few others. I mean, I think it was right for the show that she just left him there, but something felt off in the execution.
Just because a guy got you a horse does not make up for the fact that he killed your friend. Arya came to respect the Hound a bit, but that doesn't mean she still didn't want revenge.
Post by: Benja on June 18, 2014, 11:50:34 AM
so, back to arya and the hound. somebody explain the story arch of that relationship. I'm confused why her character just left him for dead instead of putting him out of his misery. I mean, at first blush, the hound is a heartless eff face that takes helpless Arya "prisoner" for self gain. but then, the show chooses to develop their characters and their relationship over an entire season. by the end, the hound's character has developed into a likeable father figure and arya embraces him. this development culminates with her mending his neck wound 'n such.
and then, in the last episode when he's facing death, she's just like, ahh, eff off, robs him, and leaves him for dead.
I guess it just shows that the hound had successfully molded her into a survivor, devoid of any moral fortitude (i.e. robbing/killing the guy who took them in).
I dunno. I haven't read the books but I think metalhead's right in that some of the more emotional scenes from the book are coming off a little rough in the show. That scene felt weird and so have a few others. I mean, I think it was right for the show that she just left him there, but something felt off in the execution.
Just because a guy got you a horse does not make up for the fact that he killed your friend. Arya came to respect the Hound a bit, but that doesn't mean she still didn't want revenge.
yep that's why I said it made sense that she left him.
Post by: Mr Bread on June 18, 2014, 11:54:27 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 18, 2014, 12:42:03 PM
so, back to arya and the hound. somebody explain the story arch of that relationship. I'm confused why her character just left him for dead instead of putting him out of his misery. I mean, at first blush, the hound is a heartless eff face that takes helpless Arya "prisoner" for self gain. but then, the show chooses to develop their characters and their relationship over an entire season. by the end, the hound's character has developed into a likeable father figure and arya embraces him. this development culminates with her mending his neck wound 'n such.
and then, in the last episode when he's facing death, she's just like, ahh, eff off, robs him, and leaves him for dead.
I guess it just shows that the hound had successfully molded her into a survivor, devoid of any moral fortitude (i.e. robbing/killing the guy who took them in).
I dunno. I haven't read the books but I think metalhead's right in that some of the more emotional scenes from the book are coming off a little rough in the show. That scene felt weird and so have a few others. I mean, I think it was right for the show that she just left him there, but something felt off in the execution.
Just because a guy got you a horse does not make up for the fact that he killed your friend. Arya came to respect the Hound a bit, but that doesn't mean she still didn't want revenge.
yep that's why I said it made sense that she left him.
And yet, she cleaned up the wound on his neck instead of letting it fester. It's not consistent. Would have been GoT-esque for her to befriend her enemy, which is where things appeared to be going. The way it ended was just muddled.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 18, 2014, 12:43:26 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 18, 2014, 12:44:30 PM
You are a simpleton
Yup.
Post by: puniraptor on June 18, 2014, 12:45:10 PM
Post by: Benja on June 18, 2014, 12:59:57 PM
so, back to arya and the hound. somebody explain the story arch of that relationship. I'm confused why her character just left him for dead instead of putting him out of his misery. I mean, at first blush, the hound is a heartless eff face that takes helpless Arya "prisoner" for self gain. but then, the show chooses to develop their characters and their relationship over an entire season. by the end, the hound's character has developed into a likeable father figure and arya embraces him. this development culminates with her mending his neck wound 'n such.
and then, in the last episode when he's facing death, she's just like, ahh, eff off, robs him, and leaves him for dead.
I guess it just shows that the hound had successfully molded her into a survivor, devoid of any moral fortitude (i.e. robbing/killing the guy who took them in).
I dunno. I haven't read the books but I think metalhead's right in that some of the more emotional scenes from the book are coming off a little rough in the show. That scene felt weird and so have a few others. I mean, I think it was right for the show that she just left him there, but something felt off in the execution.
Just because a guy got you a horse does not make up for the fact that he killed your friend. Arya came to respect the Hound a bit, but that doesn't mean she still didn't want revenge.
yep that's why I said it made sense that she left him.
And yet, she cleaned up the wound on his neck instead of letting it fester. It's not consistent. Would have been GoT-esque for her to befriend her enemy, which is where things appeared to be going. The way it ended was just muddled.
jesus christ. this is not what i'm talking about. the grey-ness of GOT is one of the best things about it.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 18, 2014, 01:19:22 PM
Hound: WTF? Just a couple of episodes ago you showed compassion by cleaning my wound that would have killed me just as painfully if it had festered!
Arya: I know, but now I hate you again. Maybe you did something off screen to make me change my mind. Whatever. Bye.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 18, 2014, 01:23:29 PM
Post by: TownieCat on June 18, 2014, 01:25:16 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 18, 2014, 01:28:44 PM
Arya: I'm not going to help you die. Screw you.
Hound: WTF? Just a couple of episodes ago you showed compassion by cleaning my wound that would have killed me just as painfully if it had festered!
Arya: I know, but now I hate you again. Maybe you did something off screen to make me change my mind. Whatever. Bye.
What don't you understand about the fact that she was using him, you rough ridin' dunce?
Post by: Benja on June 18, 2014, 01:31:45 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 18, 2014, 01:33:44 PM
Post by: Benja on June 18, 2014, 01:37:36 PM
Benja, I'm going to need you to take a minute to reflect on what you've done.
instigated bbs conversation at all costs?
Post by: Spracne on June 18, 2014, 01:38:39 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 18, 2014, 01:42:38 PM
I don't think Arya is yet to the point where she can kill out of anything but blind hate or true self-defense, therefore she didn't have the guts to kill the Hound. :th_twocents:
Wrong.
Post by: Spracne on June 18, 2014, 01:43:08 PM
I don't think Arya is yet to the point where she can kill out of anything but blind hate or true self-defense, therefore she didn't have the guts to kill the Hound. :th_twocents:
Wrong.
Compelling argument.
Post by: Benja on June 18, 2014, 01:44:41 PM
I don't think Arya is yet to the point where she can kill out of anything but blind hate or true self-defense, therefore she didn't have the guts to kill the Hound. :th_twocents:
Wrong.
Compelling argument.
She's right though.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 18, 2014, 01:46:29 PM
I don't think Arya is yet to the point where she can kill out of anything but blind hate or true self-defense, therefore she didn't have the guts to kill the Hound. :th_twocents:
Wrong.
Compelling argument.
Did they do the thing in the show where she realizes she's wasting Jaqen's three deaths on insignificant people and that she needs to use them to improve her situation?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 18, 2014, 01:47:05 PM
I don't think Arya is yet to the point where she can kill out of anything but blind hate or true self-defense, therefore she didn't have the guts to kill the Hound. :th_twocents:
Wrong.
Compelling argument.
Arya specifically chose not to kill the Hound; it wasn't because she couldn't do it.
Post by: Benja on June 18, 2014, 01:47:59 PM
I don't think Arya is yet to the point where she can kill out of anything but blind hate or true self-defense, therefore she didn't have the guts to kill the Hound. :th_twocents:
Wrong.
Compelling argument.
Did they do the thing in the show where she realizes she's wasting Jaqen's three deaths on insignificant people and that she needs to use them to improve her situation?
yeah but she didn't seem too bummed about it.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 18, 2014, 01:55:27 PM
I don't think Arya is yet to the point where she can kill out of anything but blind hate or true self-defense, therefore she didn't have the guts to kill the Hound. :th_twocents:
Wrong.
Compelling argument.
Arya specifically chose not to kill the Hound; it wasn't because she couldn't do it.
I'm just going off the books. Even with the benefit of a character's inner monologue, her motivations are far from clear, so it's certainly not a black/white issue, especially since Arya isn't very consistent with her actions as it is. Later, she realizes she has no monies and regrets not killing him and robbing him.
This is the show thread and in the show she took his money and specifically did not kill him.
Post by: Spracne on June 18, 2014, 01:59:22 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 18, 2014, 02:06:59 PM
I don't really understand your harping on the point of "specifically" not killing him. It is a point of fact that she chose not to kill him, no one is arguing that. What does it mean to "specifically" not kill him? Are you alluding to a specific motivation and, if so, what?
She specifically chose not to kill him, as in she made the distinct choice to not kill him. It wasn't just that she happened to not get the opportunity to kill him or that she couldn't make herself kill him. It was that she made the distinct, explicit, precise decision to leave him alive to suffer.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 18, 2014, 02:08:34 PM
Post by: Spracne on June 18, 2014, 02:10:56 PM
I don't really understand your harping on the point of "specifically" not killing him. It is a point of fact that she chose not to kill him, no one is arguing that. What does it mean to "specifically" not kill him? Are you alluding to a specific motivation and, if so, what?
She specifically chose not to kill him, as in she made the distinct choice to not kill him. It wasn't just that she happened to not get the opportunity to kill him or that she couldn't make herself kill him. It was that she made the distinct, explicit, precise decision to leave him alive to suffer.
Ok, so you're saying that it is clear that she chose to let him die more slowly and painfully out of spite?
Post by: Benja on June 18, 2014, 02:15:21 PM
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 18, 2014, 02:19:48 PM
I think somebody explained that she was just using him? meaning that she was just keeping him alive, using him as protection on her journey, self gain? this makes sense to me. if this is not the case, then the story was not executed properly.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 18, 2014, 02:21:09 PM
Post by: Benja on June 18, 2014, 02:23:39 PM
i get why she didn't kill him. I didn't get why she mended his neck (aka) showed compassion a few miles earlier in their journey.
I think somebody explained that she was just using him? meaning that she was just keeping him alive, using him as protection on her journey, self gain? this makes sense to me. if this is not the case, then the story was not executed properly.
they were both using each other. they recognized similar things in each other on their journey, but they were still using each other.
Post by: Benja on June 18, 2014, 02:24:03 PM
good rough ridin' grief.
:lol:
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 18, 2014, 02:27:31 PM
i get why she didn't kill him. I didn't get why she mended his neck (aka) showed compassion a few miles earlier in their journey.
I think somebody explained that she was just using him? meaning that she was just keeping him alive, using him as protection on her journey, self gain? this makes sense to me. if this is not the case, then the story was not executed properly.
they were both using each other. they recognized similar things in each other on their journey, but they were still using each other.
i mean, yeah, they were using eachother. But that's not all they were doing. That's why their relationship was compelling. At least in the show (didn't read the books) they appeared to genuinely care for eachother. or, at least, the Hound appeared to genuinely care about Arya.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 18, 2014, 02:31:00 PM
I don't really understand your harping on the point of "specifically" not killing him. It is a point of fact that she chose not to kill him, no one is arguing that. What does it mean to "specifically" not kill him? Are you alluding to a specific motivation and, if so, what?
She specifically chose not to kill him, as in she made the distinct choice to not kill him. It wasn't just that she happened to not get the opportunity to kill him or that she couldn't make herself kill him. It was that she made the distinct, explicit, precise decision to leave him alive to suffer.
Ok, so you're saying that it is clear that she chose to let him die more slowly and painfully out of spite?
Yes, She chose to let him suffer. The thing that may have made her make that final decision might have been when he started being condescending toward her. "OK, you know where the heart is. Go on, girl."
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 18, 2014, 02:35:16 PM
Arya chose not to kill The Hound, as she did not want to give him the satisfaction of a quick, painless death. She thought this was the appropriate form of justice. It's not that rough ridin' hard to understand. Arya wanted safety, then revenge. The Hound wanted money and clemency.
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 18, 2014, 02:41:09 PM
It's not that rough ridin' hard, people. The Hound and Arya were both using each other to accomplish their goal(s). The Hound sought money and reprieve from Stark sympathizers, as he had burned his bridge with the Lannisters. Arya sought safety and revenge. Over the course of their story arch they began to relate to each other on some levels, but neither actually developed the sort of relationship that is being suggested here. Arya still said his name in her prayer every night before going to sleep and Sandor was well aware of this.
Arya chose not to kill The Hound, as she did not want to give him the satisfaction of a quick, painless death. She thought this was the appropriate form of justice. It's not that rough ridin' hard to understand. Arya wanted safety, then revenge. The Hound wanted money and clemency.
You're not wrong. you can settle down. I just assumed there was more to their relationship than ^^ given a portion of every episode was devoted to developing their story. By the end, I believed that they had developed a true care and respect for one another. This, based off of all of their interactions ove the course of the season. I guess I was just watching a different show.
Post by: Benja on June 18, 2014, 02:43:40 PM
Post by: Benja on June 18, 2014, 02:44:14 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 18, 2014, 02:45:20 PM
Post by: Spracne on June 18, 2014, 02:47:55 PM
It's not that rough ridin' hard, people. The Hound and Arya were both using each other to accomplish their goal(s). The Hound sought money and reprieve from Stark sympathizers, as he had burned his bridge with the Lannisters. Arya sought safety and revenge. Over the course of their story arch they began to relate to each other on some levels, but neither actually developed the sort of relationship that is being suggested here. Arya still said his name in her prayer every night before going to sleep and Sandor was well aware of this.
Arya chose not to kill The Hound, as she did not want to give him the satisfaction of a quick, painless death. She thought this was the appropriate form of justice. It's not that rough ridin' hard to understand. Arya wanted safety, then revenge. The Hound wanted money and clemency.
You're not wrong. you can settle down. I just assumed there was more to their relationship than ^^ given a portion of every episode was devoted to developing their story. By the end, I believed that they had developed a true care and respect for one another. This, based off of all of their interactions ove the course of the season. I guess I was just watching a different show.
I think you have the right of it with respect to the story, but it does appear that in adapting the story to the show, they may have glossed over some aspects in order to make it easier for the viewing audience to understand. If in fact Arya never omits the Hound from her nightly devotional in the show, then that's a pretty clear signal to me.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 18, 2014, 02:50:07 PM
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 18, 2014, 03:00:34 PM
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/06/15/maisie-williams-on-arya-stark-the-hound-and-the-game-of-thrones-finale/
How did you play her emotional state as she walked away?
I really don’t think it was spiteful. She doesn’t purposefully leave him there to die. He’s bossed her around for so long, it’s like that final straw of, “Now you take me seriously, and it’s too late.” Her whole life, she’s been desperate to prove to people what she’s capable of. Now the Hound really gets it, and it’s too late. He has almost created a monster and it’s started to backfire on him. That’s a lot for her to deal with as well. She kind of likes him! He really helped her out, and as much as it would be doing him a favor, I don’t think she wants to kill him at all. And possibly walking away is killing him. But in “Game of Thrones,” unless you’ve got a dagger in your heart, it doesn’t necessarily mean you’re dead.
Post by: puniraptor on June 18, 2014, 03:05:24 PM
But in “Game of Thrones,” unless you’ve got a dagger in your heart, it doesn’t necessarily mean you’re dead.
MAISIE COME ON SIS SPOILER ALERT JFC :curse:
Post by: Spracne on June 18, 2014, 03:06:56 PM
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 18, 2014, 03:09:34 PM
Sounds like the character was pretty conflicted, then.
yeah. and I, the viewer, was confused.
but, one thing is for sure, the story of Arya and the Hound wasn't as clear cut and obvious as many outted dumbasses on here tried to make it.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 18, 2014, 03:12:45 PM
http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/2014/6/15/maisie-williams-reveals-aryas-red-flags
She basically said she did purposefully leave him there to die and the thing that cinched it up was him asking for her to kill him.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 18, 2014, 03:17:22 PM
Post by: Spracne on June 18, 2014, 03:18:36 PM
That's not what she said in this interview.
http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/2014/6/15/maisie-williams-reveals-aryas-red-flags
She basically said she did purposefully leave him there to die and the thing that cinched it up was him asking for her to kill him.
I mean, you might as well have just pasted the relevant answer, rather than a subjective summary:
HBO: Was there any temptation on Arya's part to put the Hound out of his misery?
Maisie Williams: She almost would have – until he asked. It's like when you have an argument with someone and they go, "I'd like you to apologize." You immediately don't want to because you feel talked down to. They never saw this day coming. If anyone, it would have been Arya on the floor. She's kicking it over in her head and not quite sure what decision she's going to make until he says, "OK, you know where the heart is. Go on, girl." And that's when that sick, twisted girl we saw in Episode 1 of this season comes back again. With every cry and plea from the Hound, it almost gives her more strength to hurt him more, emotionally. He's taught her so much and she uses it against him.
Post by: Benja on June 18, 2014, 03:18:36 PM
ps, the final scene explained by the actress herself....
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/06/15/maisie-williams-on-arya-stark-the-hound-and-the-game-of-thrones-finale/
How did you play her emotional state as she walked away?
I really don’t think it was spiteful. She doesn’t purposefully leave him there to die. He’s bossed her around for so long, it’s like that final straw of, “Now you take me seriously, and it’s too late.” Her whole life, she’s been desperate to prove to people what she’s capable of. Now the Hound really gets it, and it’s too late. He has almost created a monster and it’s started to backfire on him. That’s a lot for her to deal with as well. She kind of likes him! He really helped her out, and as much as it would be doing him a favor, I don’t think she wants to kill him at all. And possibly walking away is killing him. But in “Game of Thrones,” unless you’ve got a dagger in your heart, it doesn’t necessarily mean you’re dead.
Really the writers are the only people that can say for sure. But that doesn't even really conflict with what we were saying. I'm not saying she wasn't conflicted, just that at the end of the day she leaves him because that's GOT.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 18, 2014, 03:20:56 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 18, 2014, 03:21:44 PM
That's not what she said in this interview.
http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/2014/6/15/maisie-williams-reveals-aryas-red-flags
She basically said she did purposefully leave him there to die and the thing that cinched it up was him asking for her to kill him.
I mean, you might as well have just pasted the relevant answer, rather than a subjective summary:
HBO: Was there any temptation on Arya's part to put the Hound out of his misery?
Maisie Williams: She almost would have – until he asked. It's like when you have an argument with someone and they go, "I'd like you to apologize." You immediately don't want to because you feel talked down to. They never saw this day coming. If anyone, it would have been Arya on the floor. She's kicking it over in her head and not quite sure what decision she's going to make until he says, "OK, you know where the heart is. Go on, girl." And that's when that sick, twisted girl we saw in Episode 1 of this season comes back again. With every cry and plea from the Hound, it almost gives her more strength to hurt him more, emotionally. He's taught her so much and she uses it against him.
I linked the whole article because there were other relavant quotes, like this one...
HBO: Arya spends the whole season with the Hound. What has he become to her?
Maisie Williams: They're not necessarily friends but I think she does look up to him. Not quite in the way she looked up to Yoren; they'll never be that close. The Hound has so many walls up and so does she, but they are looking out for each other. They both have qualities that the other needs to survive. I feel like Arya was a popular character because of the decisions she made, and this year, the audience really started to see a nicer side to the Hound too.
But, exactly to Benja's point; it's not that she wasn't conflicted but her final decision was to leave him to suffer.
Post by: Spracne on June 18, 2014, 03:24:08 PM
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 18, 2014, 03:24:41 PM
ps, the final scene explained by the actress herself....
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/06/15/maisie-williams-on-arya-stark-the-hound-and-the-game-of-thrones-finale/
How did you play her emotional state as she walked away?
I really don’t think it was spiteful. She doesn’t purposefully leave him there to die. He’s bossed her around for so long, it’s like that final straw of, “Now you take me seriously, and it’s too late.” Her whole life, she’s been desperate to prove to people what she’s capable of. Now the Hound really gets it, and it’s too late. He has almost created a monster and it’s started to backfire on him. That’s a lot for her to deal with as well. She kind of likes him! He really helped her out, and as much as it would be doing him a favor, I don’t think she wants to kill him at all. And possibly walking away is killing him. But in “Game of Thrones,” unless you’ve got a dagger in your heart, it doesn’t necessarily mean you’re dead.
Really the writers are the only people that can say for sure. But that doesn't even really conflict with what we were saying. I'm not saying she wasn't conflicted, just that at the end of the day she leaves him because that's GOT.
I get that. I'm commenting more on Metalhead's dumbassery that "It's not that rough ridin' hard, people. The Hound and Arya were both using each other to accomplish their goal(s)."
The reality is that it wasn't simple. She was twisted and conflicted. It was hard.
Post by: Benja on June 18, 2014, 03:25:29 PM
We're all just projecting onto the text. The ambiguity of the source material is intentional. It lends itself to intrigue.
That's not how K-S-U-Wildcats! would write it. He would clear this muddy crap up quick.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 18, 2014, 03:26:11 PM
ps, the final scene explained by the actress herself....
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/06/15/maisie-williams-on-arya-stark-the-hound-and-the-game-of-thrones-finale/
How did you play her emotional state as she walked away?
I really don’t think it was spiteful. She doesn’t purposefully leave him there to die. He’s bossed her around for so long, it’s like that final straw of, “Now you take me seriously, and it’s too late.” Her whole life, she’s been desperate to prove to people what she’s capable of. Now the Hound really gets it, and it’s too late. He has almost created a monster and it’s started to backfire on him. That’s a lot for her to deal with as well. She kind of likes him! He really helped her out, and as much as it would be doing him a favor, I don’t think she wants to kill him at all. And possibly walking away is killing him. But in “Game of Thrones,” unless you’ve got a dagger in your heart, it doesn’t necessarily mean you’re dead.
Really the writers are the only people that can say for sure. But that doesn't even really conflict with what we were saying. I'm not saying she wasn't conflicted, just that at the end of the day she leaves him because that's GOT.
I get that. I'm commenting more on Metalhead's dumbassery that "It's not that rough ridin' hard, people. The Hound and Arya were both using each other to accomplish their goal(s)."
The reality is that it wasn't simple. She was twisted and conflicted. It was hard.
I disagree.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 18, 2014, 03:27:12 PM
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 18, 2014, 03:27:38 PM
ps, the final scene explained by the actress herself....
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/06/15/maisie-williams-on-arya-stark-the-hound-and-the-game-of-thrones-finale/
How did you play her emotional state as she walked away?
I really don’t think it was spiteful. She doesn’t purposefully leave him there to die. He’s bossed her around for so long, it’s like that final straw of, “Now you take me seriously, and it’s too late.” Her whole life, she’s been desperate to prove to people what she’s capable of. Now the Hound really gets it, and it’s too late. He has almost created a monster and it’s started to backfire on him. That’s a lot for her to deal with as well. She kind of likes him! He really helped her out, and as much as it would be doing him a favor, I don’t think she wants to kill him at all. And possibly walking away is killing him. But in “Game of Thrones,” unless you’ve got a dagger in your heart, it doesn’t necessarily mean you’re dead.
Really the writers are the only people that can say for sure. But that doesn't even really conflict with what we were saying. I'm not saying she wasn't conflicted, just that at the end of the day she leaves him because that's GOT.
I get that. I'm commenting more on Metalhead's dumbassery that "It's not that rough ridin' hard, people. The Hound and Arya were both using each other to accomplish their goal(s)."
The reality is that it wasn't simple. She was twisted and conflicted. It was hard.
I disagree.
ok. pay closer attention to the show.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 18, 2014, 03:28:39 PM
ps, the final scene explained by the actress herself....
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/06/15/maisie-williams-on-arya-stark-the-hound-and-the-game-of-thrones-finale/
How did you play her emotional state as she walked away?
I really don’t think it was spiteful. She doesn’t purposefully leave him there to die. He’s bossed her around for so long, it’s like that final straw of, “Now you take me seriously, and it’s too late.” Her whole life, she’s been desperate to prove to people what she’s capable of. Now the Hound really gets it, and it’s too late. He has almost created a monster and it’s started to backfire on him. That’s a lot for her to deal with as well. She kind of likes him! He really helped her out, and as much as it would be doing him a favor, I don’t think she wants to kill him at all. And possibly walking away is killing him. But in “Game of Thrones,” unless you’ve got a dagger in your heart, it doesn’t necessarily mean you’re dead.
Really the writers are the only people that can say for sure. But that doesn't even really conflict with what we were saying. I'm not saying she wasn't conflicted, just that at the end of the day she leaves him because that's GOT.
I get that. I'm commenting more on Metalhead's dumbassery that "It's not that rough ridin' hard, people. The Hound and Arya were both using each other to accomplish their goal(s)."
The reality is that it wasn't simple. She was twisted and conflicted. It was hard.
I disagree.
ok. pay closer attention to the show.
I pay closer attention than you do.
Post by: Spracne on June 18, 2014, 03:30:09 PM
I think everyone is arguing about this Arya/Hound thing because it is the easiest thing in the show to get your head around and make a point. Everything else is even more subjective.
Is this satire? Because if not, I couldn't disagree more.
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 18, 2014, 03:30:29 PM
I think everyone is arguing about this Arya/Hound thing because it is the easiest thing in the show to get your head around and make a point. Everything else is even more subjective.
Arya/Hound was anything but "easy" to understand. And that's why it was a popular storyline, IMO.
Post by: Spracne on June 18, 2014, 03:31:27 PM
I think everyone is arguing about this Arya/Hound thing because it is the easiest thing in the show to get your head around and make a point. Everything else is even more subjective.
Arya/Hound was anything but "easy" to understand. And that's why it was a popular storyline, IMO.
Exactly. It generates discussion because it is anything but straight-forward. Tyrion killing Tywin is pretty simple to understand, by contrast.
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 18, 2014, 03:33:01 PM
ps, the final scene explained by the actress herself....
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/06/15/maisie-williams-on-arya-stark-the-hound-and-the-game-of-thrones-finale/
How did you play her emotional state as she walked away?
I really don’t think it was spiteful. She doesn’t purposefully leave him there to die. He’s bossed her around for so long, it’s like that final straw of, “Now you take me seriously, and it’s too late.” Her whole life, she’s been desperate to prove to people what she’s capable of. Now the Hound really gets it, and it’s too late. He has almost created a monster and it’s started to backfire on him. That’s a lot for her to deal with as well. She kind of likes him! He really helped her out, and as much as it would be doing him a favor, I don’t think she wants to kill him at all. And possibly walking away is killing him. But in “Game of Thrones,” unless you’ve got a dagger in your heart, it doesn’t necessarily mean you’re dead.
Really the writers are the only people that can say for sure. But that doesn't even really conflict with what we were saying. I'm not saying she wasn't conflicted, just that at the end of the day she leaves him because that's GOT.
I get that. I'm commenting more on Metalhead's dumbassery that "It's not that rough ridin' hard, people. The Hound and Arya were both using each other to accomplish their goal(s)."
The reality is that it wasn't simple. She was twisted and conflicted. It was hard.
I disagree.
ok. pay closer attention to the show.
I pay closer attention than you do.
In my defense, I'm usually reading articles about the Royals' mindblowing dominance on my Ipad while watching.
But, ultimately, Maisie Williams agrees with me and thinks you're a dumbass. so, thanks for shopping.
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 18, 2014, 03:34:59 PM
I think everyone is arguing about this Arya/Hound thing because it is the easiest thing in the show to get your head around and make a point. Everything else is even more subjective.
Arya/Hound was anything but "easy" to understand. And that's why it was a popular storyline, IMO.
Exactly. It generates discussion because it is anything but straight-forward. Tyrion killing Tywin is pretty simple to understand, by contrast.
this. like, the guy who's been torturing greyjoy for a few seasons now. bad guy. needs killing. Cersei. needs killing. these are simple characters.
Post by: CHONGS on June 18, 2014, 03:35:39 PM
Post by: Benja on June 18, 2014, 03:38:53 PM
Post by: CHONGS on June 18, 2014, 03:39:05 PM
I think Cersei is a very complicated character. From her point of view, her actions are about protecting herself and her children. She doesn't do these things out of pure malevolence (except maybe her attitude toward Tyrion, but then again it's sort of justified in her mind).I think everyone is arguing about this Arya/Hound thing because it is the easiest thing in the show to get your head around and make a point. Everything else is even more subjective.
Arya/Hound was anything but "easy" to understand. And that's why it was a popular storyline, IMO.
Exactly. It generates discussion because it is anything but straight-forward. Tyrion killing Tywin is pretty simple to understand, by contrast.
this. like, the guy who's been torturing greyjoy for a few seasons now. bad guy. needs killing. Cersei. needs killing. these are simple characters.
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 18, 2014, 03:42:15 PM
It was a complex relationship for sure, but I also don't think the HBO writers made it an inconsistent relationship (as was argued previously). I could fully believe that Arya would clean The Hounds neck wound and also abandon him to his own devices when pushed too far.
I guess I just didn't see the conflict that Maise talked about. In a book, it would be more obvious why she walked away, because her thoughts, mental state, emotions are literally explained for you. In the show, you just see her blank stare as he is writhing in agony. this guy who she actually likes and who she looks up to.
in her interview, she explains that she walked away because him ordering her to kill him was the "final straw" that made her choose to walk away instead of putting him out of his misery. I guess I just didn't see this in that scene.
Post by: Benja on June 18, 2014, 03:43:32 PM
It was a complex relationship for sure, but I also don't think the HBO writers made it an inconsistent relationship (as was argued previously). I could fully believe that Arya would clean The Hounds neck wound and also abandon him to his own devices when pushed too far.
I guess I just didn't see the conflict that Maise talked about. In a book, it would be more obvious why she walked away, because her thoughts, mental state, emotions are literally explained for you. In the show, you just see her blank stare as he is writhing in agony. this guy who she actually likes and who she looks up to.
in her interview, she explains that she walked away because him ordering her to kill him was the "final straw" that made her choose to walk away instead of putting him out of his misery. I guess I just didn't see this in that scene.
keep in mind actors don't always know what the hell they're doing
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 18, 2014, 03:44:21 PM
keep in mind actors don't always know what the hell they're doing
nor do internet bbsers.
Post by: Benja on June 18, 2014, 03:44:49 PM
keep in mind actors don't always know what the hell they're doing
nor do internet bbsers.
i'm pretty much always right, if that helps
Post by: Spracne on June 18, 2014, 03:45:25 PM
I think Cersei is a very complicated character. From her point of view, her actions are about protecting herself and her children. She doesn't do these things out of pure malevolence (except maybe her attitude toward Tyrion, but then again it's sort of justified in her mind).I think everyone is arguing about this Arya/Hound thing because it is the easiest thing in the show to get your head around and make a point. Everything else is even more subjective.
Arya/Hound was anything but "easy" to understand. And that's why it was a popular storyline, IMO.
Exactly. It generates discussion because it is anything but straight-forward. Tyrion killing Tywin is pretty simple to understand, by contrast.
this. like, the guy who's been torturing greyjoy for a few seasons now. bad guy. needs killing. Cersei. needs killing. these are simple characters.
Cersei certainly has complex motivations, but I think her lust for power (which might trump her other motivations) is what keeps her from being redeeming. If all she wanted to do was protect her children, she would just hide behind the walls of Casterly Rock rather than trying to maintain an iron grip on the Iron Throne, because when you play the game of thrones, you either win or you die.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 18, 2014, 03:45:43 PM
Cersei/Jaime
Tywin/Tyrion
Ned/Jon Snow
Littlefinger/Catelyn
Tyrion/Shae
Post by: CNS on June 18, 2014, 03:46:21 PM
Arya: I'm not going to help you die. Screw you.
Hound: WTF? Just a couple of episodes ago you showed compassion by cleaning my wound that would have killed me just as painfully if it had festered!
Arya: I know, but now I hate you again. Maybe you did something off screen to make me change my mind. Whatever. Bye.
What don't you understand about the fact that she was using him, you rough ridin' dunce?
When d00d was bit, she still needed him. After she found that her aunt was dead, she realized she no longer needed him.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 18, 2014, 03:50:37 PM
I think Cersei is a very complicated character. From her point of view, her actions are about protecting herself and her children. She doesn't do these things out of pure malevolence (except maybe her attitude toward Tyrion, but then again it's sort of justified in her mind).I think everyone is arguing about this Arya/Hound thing because it is the easiest thing in the show to get your head around and make a point. Everything else is even more subjective.
Arya/Hound was anything but "easy" to understand. And that's why it was a popular storyline, IMO.
Exactly. It generates discussion because it is anything but straight-forward. Tyrion killing Tywin is pretty simple to understand, by contrast.
this. like, the guy who's been torturing greyjoy for a few seasons now. bad guy. needs killing. Cersei. needs killing. these are simple characters.
Cersei certainly has complex motivations, but I think her lust for power (which might trump her other motivations) is what keeps her from being redeeming. If all she wanted to do was protect her children, she would just hide behind the walls of Casterly Rock rather than trying to maintain an iron grip on the Iron Throne, because when you play the game of thrones, you either win or you die.
Well, Lysa hid behind the walls of the Eyrie with her kid and was no more redeemable than Cersei.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 18, 2014, 03:53:23 PM
ps, the final scene explained by the actress herself....
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/06/15/maisie-williams-on-arya-stark-the-hound-and-the-game-of-thrones-finale/
How did you play her emotional state as she walked away?
I really don’t think it was spiteful. She doesn’t purposefully leave him there to die. He’s bossed her around for so long, it’s like that final straw of, “Now you take me seriously, and it’s too late.” Her whole life, she’s been desperate to prove to people what she’s capable of. Now the Hound really gets it, and it’s too late. He has almost created a monster and it’s started to backfire on him. That’s a lot for her to deal with as well. She kind of likes him! He really helped her out, and as much as it would be doing him a favor, I don’t think she wants to kill him at all. And possibly walking away is killing him. But in “Game of Thrones,” unless you’ve got a dagger in your heart, it doesn’t necessarily mean you’re dead.
Really the writers are the only people that can say for sure. But that doesn't even really conflict with what we were saying. I'm not saying she wasn't conflicted, just that at the end of the day she leaves him because that's GOT.
I get that. I'm commenting more on Metalhead's dumbassery that "It's not that rough ridin' hard, people. The Hound and Arya were both using each other to accomplish their goal(s)."
The reality is that it wasn't simple. She was twisted and conflicted. It was hard.
I disagree.
ok. pay closer attention to the show.
I pay closer attention than you do.
In my defense, I'm usually reading articles about the Royals' mindblowing dominance on my Ipad while watching.
But, ultimately, Maisie Williams agrees with me and thinks you're a dumbass. so, thanks for shopping.
Interesting, I didn't see anywhere in the article where Maisie Williams stated that she thinks I am a dumbass, but thanks for letting me know that I got under your skin. Why don't you learn Ramsay Snow's name, and then get back to me on matters related to this story.
Post by: Spracne on June 18, 2014, 03:54:01 PM
I think Cersei is a very complicated character. From her point of view, her actions are about protecting herself and her children. She doesn't do these things out of pure malevolence (except maybe her attitude toward Tyrion, but then again it's sort of justified in her mind).I think everyone is arguing about this Arya/Hound thing because it is the easiest thing in the show to get your head around and make a point. Everything else is even more subjective.
Arya/Hound was anything but "easy" to understand. And that's why it was a popular storyline, IMO.
Exactly. It generates discussion because it is anything but straight-forward. Tyrion killing Tywin is pretty simple to understand, by contrast.
this. like, the guy who's been torturing greyjoy for a few seasons now. bad guy. needs killing. Cersei. needs killing. these are simple characters.
Cersei certainly has complex motivations, but I think her lust for power (which might trump her other motivations) is what keeps her from being redeeming. If all she wanted to do was protect her children, she would just hide behind the walls of Casterly Rock rather than trying to maintain an iron grip on the Iron Throne, because when you play the game of thrones, you either win or you die.
Well, Lysa hid behind the walls of the Eyrie with her kid and was no more redeemable than Cersei.
What's your point?
Post by: puniraptor on June 18, 2014, 03:55:03 PM
Post by: CHONGS on June 18, 2014, 03:55:32 PM
I immediately took the scene the way Maise described it. :dunno: It wasn't a blank stare to me, it was an intense studying/decision making stare.It was a complex relationship for sure, but I also don't think the HBO writers made it an inconsistent relationship (as was argued previously). I could fully believe that Arya would clean The Hounds neck wound and also abandon him to his own devices when pushed too far.
I guess I just didn't see the conflict that Maise talked about. In a book, it would be more obvious why she walked away, because her thoughts, mental state, emotions are literally explained for you. In the show, you just see her blank stare as he is writhing in agony. this guy who she actually likes and who she looks up to.
in her interview, she explains that she walked away because him ordering her to kill him was the "final straw" that made her choose to walk away instead of putting him out of his misery. I guess I just didn't see this in that scene.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 18, 2014, 04:00:08 PM
cinder blocks flying left and right in this bitch
I can't say it was a good morning, but, babe, it's been a great afternoon.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 18, 2014, 04:10:32 PM
I think Cersei is a very complicated character. From her point of view, her actions are about protecting herself and her children. She doesn't do these things out of pure malevolence (except maybe her attitude toward Tyrion, but then again it's sort of justified in her mind).I think everyone is arguing about this Arya/Hound thing because it is the easiest thing in the show to get your head around and make a point. Everything else is even more subjective.
Arya/Hound was anything but "easy" to understand. And that's why it was a popular storyline, IMO.
Exactly. It generates discussion because it is anything but straight-forward. Tyrion killing Tywin is pretty simple to understand, by contrast.
this. like, the guy who's been torturing greyjoy for a few seasons now. bad guy. needs killing. Cersei. needs killing. these are simple characters.
Cersei certainly has complex motivations, but I think her lust for power (which might trump her other motivations) is what keeps her from being redeeming. If all she wanted to do was protect her children, she would just hide behind the walls of Casterly Rock rather than trying to maintain an iron grip on the Iron Throne, because when you play the game of thrones, you either win or you die.
Well, Lysa hid behind the walls of the Eyrie with her kid and was no more redeemable than Cersei.
What's your point?
Cersei would still not be redeeming even if she would have taken her kids to Casterly Rock and not played the game. She would still be the same spiteful, hateful person.
Post by: Spracne on June 18, 2014, 04:11:41 PM
I think Cersei is a very complicated character. From her point of view, her actions are about protecting herself and her children. She doesn't do these things out of pure malevolence (except maybe her attitude toward Tyrion, but then again it's sort of justified in her mind).I think everyone is arguing about this Arya/Hound thing because it is the easiest thing in the show to get your head around and make a point. Everything else is even more subjective.
Arya/Hound was anything but "easy" to understand. And that's why it was a popular storyline, IMO.
Exactly. It generates discussion because it is anything but straight-forward. Tyrion killing Tywin is pretty simple to understand, by contrast.
this. like, the guy who's been torturing greyjoy for a few seasons now. bad guy. needs killing. Cersei. needs killing. these are simple characters.
Cersei certainly has complex motivations, but I think her lust for power (which might trump her other motivations) is what keeps her from being redeeming. If all she wanted to do was protect her children, she would just hide behind the walls of Casterly Rock rather than trying to maintain an iron grip on the Iron Throne, because when you play the game of thrones, you either win or you die.
Well, Lysa hid behind the walls of the Eyrie with her kid and was no more redeemable than Cersei.
What's your point?
Cersei would still not be redeeming even if she would have taken her kids to Casterly Rock and not played the game. She would still be the same spiteful, hateful person.
Well, at the very least her storyline would be very, very boring.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 18, 2014, 04:12:41 PM
Thankfully, in the books it's far more clear how Arya feels when she parts ways from The Hound, and it is a long the lines of what Belvis is suggesting. She does look up to him in many aspects, and it is clearly communicated through her behavior and her internal monologue. The show glosses over many of the developments between the two that make this obvious. The most important being her prayer, which Spracne and I have mentioned. Her prayer is quite central to her development as a character throughout the books. The last time she says it on screen The Hound is still included, and she states his name loud enough for him to hear.
Benja is correct in assuming that I think the show does a poor job of portraying the emotionally charged scenes. I don't think there was enough done to establish the relationship between the two, and I don't think it is the fault of either Rory or Maisie. I've been disappointed in how a lot of things have been handled by D&D this season, but it was still the best show on television and the best season in this series so far. I look forward to the next one.
It seems that I've created a quite a mess, and I think that we're on the brink of a flame war over a television show/ book series. So I thought I would go ahead a put that out there.
Post by: CHONGS on June 18, 2014, 04:12:53 PM
Post by: Benja on June 18, 2014, 04:13:32 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 18, 2014, 04:16:32 PM
Post by: CHONGS on June 18, 2014, 04:17:02 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 18, 2014, 04:17:46 PM
Just to throw gasoline on the fire here for everyone: so far the HBO show is way better than the books at just about everything.
:lol:
Post by: Fedor on June 18, 2014, 04:21:25 PM
Post by: mocat on June 18, 2014, 04:24:44 PM
Post by: Benja on June 18, 2014, 04:32:24 PM
good grief everybody is partying in the royals thread and you guys are debating what some fat loser was thinking about when he wrote a sixty thousand page fantasy book series using an MS rough ridin' DOS word rough ridin' processor :lol:
actually i was doing both.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 18, 2014, 04:32:41 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 18, 2014, 04:33:01 PM
good grief everybody is partying in the royals thread and you guys are debating what some fat loser was thinking about when he wrote a sixty thousand page fantasy book series using an MS rough ridin' DOS word rough ridin' processor :lol:
actually i was doing both.
x2
Post by: Fedor on June 18, 2014, 04:33:15 PM
good grief everybody is partying in the royals thread and you guys are debating what some fat loser was thinking about when he wrote a sixty thousand page fantasy book series using an MS rough ridin' DOS word rough ridin' processor :lol:If it ain't BoozeCats, it ain't crap.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 18, 2014, 04:55:41 PM
good grief everybody is partying in the royals thread and you guys are debating what some fat loser was thinking about when he wrote a sixty thousand page fantasy book series using an MS rough ridin' DOS word rough ridin' processor :lol:
http://hbowatch.com/george-r-r-martin-types-with-one-finger/
:lol:
Post by: star seed 7 on June 18, 2014, 05:42:51 PM
Just to throw gasoline on the fire here for everyone: so far the HBO show is way better than the books at just about everything.
absolutely
Post by: catzacker on June 18, 2014, 07:46:59 PM
Post by: Spracne on June 18, 2014, 09:48:26 PM
the pretentious game of thrones book readers are just about the worst humans on earth. yes, we get it, you're a better class of person because you read; i'm sure your well rounded, well informed opinion means a lot and you look really smart at dinner parties or to some of the summer interns at your work. And I'm sorry I (along with all of my other Neanderthal friends) got to sit in front of my wonderful TV and get the same enjoyment out of the story as you did suffering through 5K pages. the show is fantastic, and if this was the 19th century and we still lived by candlelight and I actually read the book, i'd probably think the book was fantastic too.
Damn, you pegged me. I used to only read non-fiction until I realized that reading fantasy books was the key to social and professional mobility.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 18, 2014, 09:59:16 PM
the pretentious game of thrones book readers are just about the worst humans on earth. yes, we get it, you're a better class of person because you read; i'm sure your well rounded, well informed opinion means a lot and you look really smart at dinner parties or to some of the summer interns at your work. And I'm sorry I (along with all of my other Neanderthal friends) got to sit in front of my wonderful TV and get the same enjoyment out of the story as you did suffering through 5K pages. the show is fantastic, and if this was the 19th century and we still lived by candlelight and I actually read the book, i'd probably think the book was fantastic too.
not your best work, dude.
Post by: mocat on June 18, 2014, 10:14:39 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on June 19, 2014, 12:06:47 AM
I listened to all the novels on audiobook, while working my normal dayjob. Its like BBSing except casual observation couldn't suggest it. So, am i better than both classes aforementioned? Probably, thank you for noticing. I did read all the short stories, but LOL if you can't find time to read a 100 page book.the pretentious game of thrones book readers are just about the worst humans on earth. yes, we get it, you're a better class of person because you read; i'm sure your well rounded, well informed opinion means a lot and you look really smart at dinner parties or to some of the summer interns at your work. And I'm sorry I (along with all of my other Neanderthal friends) got to sit in front of my wonderful TV and get the same enjoyment out of the story as you did suffering through 5K pages. the show is fantastic, and if this was the 19th century and we still lived by candlelight and I actually read the book, i'd probably think the book was fantastic too.
Damn, you pegged me. I used to only read non-fiction until I realized that reading fantasy books was the key to social and professional mobility.
Post by: OK_Cat on June 19, 2014, 07:54:50 AM
Post by: pissclams on June 19, 2014, 07:58:47 AM
zacker nailed it
meh, he nailed it better in the book
Post by: OK_Cat on June 19, 2014, 08:00:03 AM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 25, 2014, 01:33:35 PM
Post by: Benja on June 25, 2014, 01:53:38 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 25, 2014, 01:58:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EoQCtPR2-I
@EllRobersonIsInnocent
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 31, 2014, 11:56:35 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 11, 2014, 08:02:53 PM
Post by: Spracne on August 11, 2014, 08:16:32 PM
http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/game-of-thrones-j-j-murphy-dies-filming-season-5-1201279897/"...and now his watch is ended" :love:
Post by: AppleJack on August 11, 2014, 08:25:45 PM
Post by: AppleJack on August 11, 2014, 08:49:14 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on August 11, 2014, 10:59:33 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 12, 2014, 09:25:52 AM
Why don't the Wildling's build a second wall b/w the other wall and the North. A DMZ of sorts.
Why would they?
P.S. What do you mean by the North? North as in Winterfell or North of the Wall?
Post by: Gooch on August 12, 2014, 10:31:10 AM
I'm not 100% sure you know how a DMZ works.Why don't the Wildling's build a second wall b/w the other wall and the North. A DMZ of sorts.
Why would they?
P.S. What do you mean by the North? North as in Winterfell or North of the Wall?
Post by: Fedor on August 12, 2014, 10:34:16 AM
AJ - your scenario would be similar to the Mongols building a wall next to the GreatI'm not 100% sure you know how a DMZ works.Why don't the Wildling's build a second wall b/w the other wall and the North. A DMZ of sorts.
Why would they?
P.S. What do you mean by the North? North as in Winterfell or North of the Wall?
Wall of China.
Post by: michigancat on August 12, 2014, 11:22:13 AM
Post by: AppleJack on August 12, 2014, 01:06:26 PM
AJ - your scenario would be similar to the Mongols building a wall next to the GreatI'm not 100% sure you know how a DMZ works.Why don't the Wildling's build a second wall b/w the other wall and the North. A DMZ of sorts.
Why would they?
P.S. What do you mean by the North? North as in Winterfell or North of the Wall?
Wall of China.
Yeah - they should have thought of that. Walls are great sometimes.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 14, 2015, 11:37:42 AM
http://www.imax.com/community/blog/game-of-thrones-in-imax-participating-theatres/
Post by: TownieCat on February 02, 2015, 05:03:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wViILXQfX7Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wViILXQfX7Y)
Post by: The Big Train on February 02, 2015, 05:20:34 PM
Post by: AppleJack on February 02, 2015, 06:37:54 PM
Post by: brandochav on February 02, 2015, 07:27:25 PM
I'd be fine if they just cut off the whole Bran / Raven storyline.That's just a stupid thing to think, let alone say/type.
Post by: star seed 7 on February 02, 2015, 07:36:46 PM
I'd be fine if they just cut off the whole Bran / Raven storyline.
yes, absolutely
Post by: CNS on February 02, 2015, 08:15:44 PM
Post by: Benja on February 02, 2015, 09:32:39 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on February 02, 2015, 09:35:48 PM
You guys are TVonly, right?
bran chapters are the worst, i wish that butthole died when he fell
Post by: CNS on February 02, 2015, 09:43:09 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on February 03, 2015, 11:04:10 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 03, 2015, 01:35:20 PM
Post by: Gooch on February 03, 2015, 02:39:46 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on February 03, 2015, 03:31:47 PM
That trailer was very meh.Its basically just teasers for book people.
"Hey these are the scenes from the book that are going to be in this season in rapid succession so you'll have to pick apart the trailer and feel like a detective and get all excited about it"
Post by: The Big Train on February 03, 2015, 09:36:33 PM
Post by: Dub on February 04, 2015, 12:06:47 AM
That trailer was very meh.Its basically just teasers for book people.
"Hey these are the scenes from the book that are going to be in this season in rapid succession so you'll have to pick apart the trailer and feel like a detective and get all excited about it"
Seems like a terrible marketing move??
Post by: TownieCat on March 10, 2015, 12:10:19 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 10, 2015, 01:00:21 PM
New trailer: http://youtu.be/vwRdVw82Jd8 (http://youtu.be/vwRdVw82Jd8)
I like this one because Dany explains what the wheel is that she was talking about breaking in the previous trailer.
Post by: AppleJack on March 10, 2015, 02:06:55 PM
Post by: Dub on March 10, 2015, 02:11:08 PM
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After breaking a 1,000-year-old world record during the World's Strongest Viking competition back in February by carrying a 30-foot, 1,433-pound log, Bjornsson added another notch to his belt with a world-record throw at the 2015 Arnold Sports Festival. The 6’9”, 419-pound Icelandic weightlifter posted videos (h/t BroBible.com’s J. Camm) of the feat to Instagram. With one arm, he managed to toss a 56-pound kettle bell 19 feet and three inches into the air.
https://instagram.com/p/0Cja3XALsi/?modal=true&utm_source=partner&utm_medium=embed&utm_campaign=video (https://instagram.com/p/0Cja3XALsi/?modal=true&utm_source=partner&utm_medium=embed&utm_campaign=video)
Post by: nicname on March 10, 2015, 02:20:26 PM
She shouldn't have said "break the wheel," though. She should have said "destroy it."
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 19, 2015, 12:33:28 PM
Post by: AppleJack on March 19, 2015, 02:20:22 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 20, 2015, 09:31:42 AM
It takes a while to cross the narrow sea.
She had 10 months.
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 20, 2015, 12:49:43 PM
Maybe the cat's uncredited this season!It takes a while to cross the narrow sea.
She had 10 months.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 06, 2015, 01:49:28 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 08, 2015, 04:02:48 PM
http://www.tvguide.com/galleries/where-every-game-thrones-character-is-now/photo/a233812f-26f0-4149-a8a1-82ca44179388/
Post by: AppleJack on April 08, 2015, 04:08:50 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on April 09, 2015, 07:38:35 AM
Post by: CNS on April 09, 2015, 07:40:33 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 09, 2015, 08:26:53 AM
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 09, 2015, 08:33:31 AM
John Snow goes to dinner party and explains it all. :lol:
Post by: TownieCat on April 09, 2015, 08:39:43 AM
Post by: AppleJack on April 09, 2015, 08:43:42 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 09, 2015, 08:45:35 AM
I would be fine if Bran was never on the show again. Just a miserable story line.
Bran is going to be awesome eventually.
Post by: Mr Bread on April 09, 2015, 05:07:15 PM
I would be fine if Bran was never on the show again. Just a miserable story line.
Bran is never going to be awesome eventually. He sucks serious crap.
Mmhmm.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 09, 2015, 06:21:07 PM
I would be fine if Bran was never on the show again. Just a miserable story line.
Bran is never going to be awesome eventually. He sucks serious crap.
Mmhmm.
Most boring char in the books AND show, quite an accomplishment
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 10, 2015, 03:35:12 PM
http://www.swampdonkeyjass.com/home (The play button should be at the bottom of the page...)
Post by: puniraptor on April 12, 2015, 03:31:45 PM
Post by: nicname on April 12, 2015, 06:59:59 PM
Still sad about Oberyn. He was such a studly mcboss.
Yes a real "shooting star" type character.
Post by: OK_Cat on April 12, 2015, 08:00:08 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on April 12, 2015, 08:14:30 PM
Post by: TownieCat on April 12, 2015, 09:04:06 PM
Post by: joda on April 12, 2015, 09:13:00 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on April 12, 2015, 09:21:18 PM
Post by: mocat on April 12, 2015, 09:34:36 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on April 12, 2015, 10:41:59 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 12, 2015, 10:49:47 PM
Post by: AppleJack on April 13, 2015, 08:49:12 AM
I was super pissed at first because I thought they recast Grey Worm and then killed him.
Stannis is such a stud.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 13, 2015, 08:50:14 AM
Post by: TownieCat on April 13, 2015, 09:50:23 AM
For me, the only disappointment last night was no Arya.
Post by: puniraptor on April 13, 2015, 09:53:15 AM
Post by: nicname on April 13, 2015, 10:21:26 AM
Apparently the first 4 episodes were leaked online. Guy I work with is going to have them for me tomorrow #boom
Sounds terrible.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 13, 2015, 10:22:44 AM
Post by: nicname on April 13, 2015, 10:23:44 AM
i cant get over how much a a p word this new daario is. the old daario was a freak beast. I hope nobody watches his dumb crap transporter movie.
I'll never get over it.
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 13, 2015, 10:27:27 AM
Story didn't advance at all but lol at Robin.So, the show cuts out a lot of content from the books and i'm OK with that. Between the sack of Astapor(Where the unsullied came from) and the capture of Meereen (where the show is now) the books had an entire third city Yunkai that gets sacked. Its got some important story elements in it (After its "liberation" Dany leaves to head to the next city, the power vacuum draws in a tyrant who re-enslaves the population, convincing Dany she must stay in Meereen until stability is restored) and just got cut out. On top of that, no Strong Belwas (seriously).
I was super pissed at first because I thought they recast Grey Worm and then killed him.
Stannis is such a stud.
I'm OK with these cuts for the most part. You can't include everything. What I don't like is scenes being cut so they can add in new scenes that suck. There's been 2 scenes in the show, thus far, devoted to the complicated sex lives of the unsullied. That's like 20 minutes, almost half an episode, supplanting characters and storylines that will never see a wider berth beyond print. In the books they're like "Oh yeah, some of the guys likes laying around with the girls for companionship. No big deal" And that's the end of it. No inquisitive heart-to-hearts between Grey Worm and Missandei. I might be alone in this, but its just not that interesting of a story-line.
AND new Daario is a p word, yes.
Post by: puniraptor on April 13, 2015, 10:33:59 AM
Post by: TownieCat on April 13, 2015, 11:01:21 AM
Story didn't advance at all but lol at Robin.So, the show cuts out a lot of content from the books and i'm OK with that. Between the sack of Astapor(Where the unsullied came from) and the capture of Meereen (where the show is now) the books had an entire third city Yunkai that gets sacked. Its got some important story elements in it (After its "liberation" Dany leaves to head to the next city, the power vacuum draws in a tyrant who re-enslaves the population, convincing Dany she must stay in Meereen until stability is restored) and just got cut out. On top of that, no Strong Belwas (seriously).
I was super pissed at first because I thought they recast Grey Worm and then killed him.
Stannis is such a stud.
I'm OK with these cuts for the most part. You can't include everything. What I don't like is scenes being cut so they can add in new scenes that suck. There's been 2 scenes in the show, thus far, devoted to the complicated sex lives of the unsullied. That's like 20 minutes, almost half an episode, supplanting characters and storylines that will never see a wider berth beyond print. In the books they're like "Oh yeah, some of the guys likes laying around with the girls for companionship. No big deal" And that's the end of it. No inquisitive heart-to-hearts between Grey Worm and Missandei. I might be alone in this, but its just not that interesting of a story-line.
AND new Daario is a p word, yes.
Take it to the book and show thread, NerdSonntag.
Post by: Kat Kid on April 13, 2015, 11:21:42 AM
Post by: OK_Cat on April 13, 2015, 11:25:34 AM
Watching the next 4 episodes online and then waiting 5 weeks before you can watch a new episode would be horrible. Why would anyone want to do that?
I'm worried about spoilers, friend.
Post by: mocat on April 13, 2015, 11:28:39 AM
Post by: puniraptor on April 13, 2015, 11:34:51 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 13, 2015, 11:38:48 AM
Watching the next 4 episodes online and then waiting 5 weeks before you can watch a new episode would be horrible. Why would anyone want to do that?
I'm worried about spoilers, friend.
Obviously as a fan I would not want to hear spoilers from people who access the leaked videos. That is concern #1. I also feel like watching 4 new episodes and then waiting a month for the show to catch up is just torture.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 13, 2015, 12:31:03 PM
Story didn't advance at all but lol at Robin.
I was super pissed at first because I thought they recast Grey Worm and then killed him.
Stannis is such a stud.
I was so pissed about grey worm and then smiled my ass off when they showed the real gw
Post by: Institutional Control on April 13, 2015, 01:04:33 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on April 13, 2015, 01:09:43 PM
but just so we're clear, you're more worried about the FBI beating down your door for visiting a streaming video website, than for obtaining a physical copy of an illegally recorded HBO show
Not worried about either. Sarcasm doesn't always work on a bbs. MY BAD!
Guys, how is she going to tame her dragons???
Post by: AppleJack on April 13, 2015, 01:28:45 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 13, 2015, 01:31:39 PM
Why is Brienne so mean to Pod? :frown:
Personal demons :frown: She is using Podrick as a verbal punching bag.
Post by: puniraptor on April 13, 2015, 01:32:59 PM
Post by: TownieCat on April 13, 2015, 01:37:20 PM
why didn't she climb down the cliff to confirm the kill/plunder the corpse/search for intel?I wondered this too. But she wasn't really after the Hound tho.
Post by: AppleJack on April 13, 2015, 01:40:42 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on April 13, 2015, 01:42:57 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 13, 2015, 02:09:09 PM
What happens to the wildlings now? Follow Jon snow?
I feel like that was the main reason he shot the arrow. He wanted to earn the trust of the other Wildings so he could save them.
Post by: puniraptor on April 13, 2015, 02:16:39 PM
What happens to the wildlings now? Follow Jon snow?
I feel like that was the main reason he shot the arrow. He wanted to earn the trust of the other Wildings so he could save them.
you keep what you kill maybe? he is their president now?
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 15, 2015, 11:16:21 AM
Damn - I forgot how dark the first few were, even by GoT standards. Shoving Bran out the window in epi 1 and Joffrey being a dick and getting the baker's boy and the dog killed in epi 2. Really hated the Lanisters and the Hound back then.
But it's fun rewatching now that I know who the characters are and how they're related. A lot of that backstory went over my head the first time around.
Post by: HerrSonntag on April 15, 2015, 08:02:17 PM
Just started binge rewatching GoT from the first episode. Should finish about the time Season 5 wraps up.I start rewatching them around february, but i got held up and only got to the end of season 3 this year. I paid for it when 'clams silverbacked me about Yunkai earlier :frown:
Damn - I forgot how dark the first few were, even by GoT standards. Shoving Bran out the window in epi 1 and Joffrey being a dick and getting the baker's boy and the dog killed in epi 2. Really hated the Lanisters and the Hound back then.
But it's fun rewatching now that I know who the characters are and how they're related. A lot of that backstory went over my head the first time around.
Post by: TownieCat on April 26, 2015, 09:10:22 PM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 27, 2015, 08:24:44 AM
Post by: Yard Dog on April 27, 2015, 09:38:35 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 27, 2015, 10:04:25 AM
When that old guy who wanted to bone the Khaleesi said "I'm taking you to the queen." did he mean Cersei? Or did he mean Daenerys?
Daenerys. He wants to win her trust back is my guess. She kicked him out and he has nowhere to go.
Post by: TownieCat on April 27, 2015, 10:11:06 AM
Also, what do you think Varys thinks about when he's in a brothel? Must be very awkward, right?
Post by: mocat on April 27, 2015, 10:14:55 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 27, 2015, 10:18:03 AM
I wondered this too, but Cersei isn't the queen so it has to be Dany. It also seems a lot more practical to take him to Mereen vs Kings Landing since they are in Essos.
Also, what do you think Varys thinks about when he's in a brothel? Must be very awkward, right?
I think you are supposed to wonder which one he means....he doesn't yet know that Tommen married Margaery so he might still refer to Cersei as "the queen"....you are supposed to wonder if he is still trying to win Dany's favor or if he has decided to turn on her completely and go back to the Lannisters.....
....But he is taking him to Dany.
Also Varys feels a kinship toward the whores.
Post by: TownieCat on April 27, 2015, 10:29:10 AM
wait did you guys not watch ep 4 yet?Yes. I watched it in HD on my tv last night and not on a tiny laptop 2 weeks ago.
Post by: mocat on April 27, 2015, 10:29:57 AM
Post by: TownieCat on April 27, 2015, 10:30:08 AM
Post by: TownieCat on April 27, 2015, 10:31:22 AM
Post by: puniraptor on April 27, 2015, 10:39:43 AM
formative moment, if so
Post by: mocat on April 27, 2015, 10:44:11 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 27, 2015, 10:44:35 AM
was jon there in like the very first ep when Ned chopped that dudes head even tho he really didnt want to?
formative moment, if so
Yes, it was specifically used as a teaching moment for Jon.
Post by: puniraptor on April 27, 2015, 10:46:27 AM
i really need to rewatch the first season
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 27, 2015, 10:47:55 AM
Post by: mocat on April 27, 2015, 10:49:09 AM
Post by: puniraptor on April 27, 2015, 10:49:33 AM
what a rough ridin' cool sword
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 27, 2015, 11:00:05 AM
Well, it was a teaching moment for Bran, really. Jon was just there because everyone else was.
OK, you are right but it obviously left an impression on Jon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTzbOA6cTYM
Post by: AppleJack on April 27, 2015, 11:10:47 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 27, 2015, 11:22:35 AM
do you guys love how grrm named him "Bran". just like heads up, this guy is going to be painfully boring
Yeah, most of his names are pretty good.
Post by: CNS on April 27, 2015, 01:42:41 PM
do you guys love how grrm named him "Bran". just like heads up, this guy is going to be painfully boring
Yeah, most of his names are pretty good.
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San-Suh
adjective
1. not to be endured; intolerable; unbearable:
That bitch is sansa.
Post by: Gooch on April 27, 2015, 04:18:34 PM
rough ridin' SPOILER ALERT!I wondered this too, but Cersei isn't the queen so it has to be Dany. It also seems a lot more practical to take him to Mereen vs Kings Landing since they are in Essos.
Also, what do you think Varys thinks about when he's in a brothel? Must be very awkward, right?
I think you are supposed to wonder which one he means....he doesn't yet know that Tommen married Margaery so he might still refer to Cersei as "the queen"....you are supposed to wonder if he is still trying to win Dany's favor or if he has decided to turn on her completely and go back to the Lannisters.....
....But he is taking him to Dany.
Also Varys feels a kinship toward the whores.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 27, 2015, 04:34:58 PM
rough ridin' SPOILER ALERT!I wondered this too, but Cersei isn't the queen so it has to be Dany. It also seems a lot more practical to take him to Mereen vs Kings Landing since they are in Essos.
Also, what do you think Varys thinks about when he's in a brothel? Must be very awkward, right?
I think you are supposed to wonder which one he means....he doesn't yet know that Tommen married Margaery so he might still refer to Cersei as "the queen"....you are supposed to wonder if he is still trying to win Dany's favor or if he has decided to turn on her completely and go back to the Lannisters.....
....But he is taking him to Dany.
Also Varys feels a kinship toward the whores.
That's just, like, my opinion on what is happening....I have no idea what is going on now that they deviated from the books so much.
And what about those other people who said he was taking Tyrion to Dany?
Post by: TownieCat on April 27, 2015, 04:40:40 PM
Post by: CNS on April 27, 2015, 04:44:19 PM
I read an episode 3 recap this morning that mentioned the Sansa story had gone completely away from the books. Pretty soon no one will know what's going on there.
We are already there.
Post by: joda on April 28, 2015, 12:58:43 PM
I read an episode 3 recap this morning that mentioned the Sansa story had gone completely away from the books. Pretty soon no one will know what's going on there.
We are already there.
Yep, Sansa is completely off the rails from the book. I can probably guess what happens to her for the next several episodes based on her location and "companions", but after that :dunno:
Post by: star seed 7 on May 01, 2015, 07:03:00 PM
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Post by: TownieCat on May 03, 2015, 10:26:31 PM
Grey Worm :frown:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 04, 2015, 08:22:07 AM
Also, Grey Worm isn't dead, right????
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 04, 2015, 08:23:57 AM
Post by: puniraptor on May 04, 2015, 08:25:06 AM
did not like how the elite megawarrior unsullied just got massacred everywhere by dorks with knives.
barriston is def dead
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 04, 2015, 08:26:53 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 04, 2015, 08:37:03 AM
Post by: mocat on May 04, 2015, 08:44:51 AM
Post by: Yard Dog on May 04, 2015, 12:34:03 PM
I also was audibly upset the whole time that the unsullied didn't just destroy the harpies. For how expensive they supposedly are, they sure seem to be killed rather easily.
Post by: TownieCat on May 04, 2015, 01:08:12 PM
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Post by: TownieCat on May 04, 2015, 07:02:29 PM
Of course the unsullied go their asses kicked by the harpies. the unsullied's biggest strength is their organization. they operate as a unit. they are not trained to fight in utter chaos.How many Unsullied are required for a unit? Whatever that number is is how many Unsullied should patrol together at all times. Why would you attempt to fight with fewer than required?
If they weren't soft then they were being stupid, which is arguably worse.
Post by: TownieCat on May 04, 2015, 07:05:22 PM
Better villain - Ramsey or Joffrey?Ramsey. He does the dirty work himself and he's much more torturing about it.
Joff was a cold hearted a-hole but at least he never cut off a guy's johnson.
Post by: nicname on May 04, 2015, 08:55:58 PM
Better villain - Ramsey or Joffrey?Ramsey. He does the dirty work himself and he's much more torturing about it.
Joff was a cold hearted a-hole but at least he never cut off a guy's johnson.
Ramsay can be witty and humorous, even if he is a sadistic madman. He also at least has some sort of an excuse as to why he does what he does. He comes from a family of psychopaths and desperately wants to be accepted as a true Bolton. He's basically the super Bolton.
Joffrey was just a terrible human and didn't have any redeeming qualities as a person or character. The only thing he provided was anger and making everyone wish someone would off him. Not that he wasn't a great character. He was, and his mega-heel status made for a lot of great scenes where you could really root for whoever he was up against.
You hate Joffrey. Ramsay is a sick and twisted eff, but doesn't really invoke seething hatred like Joff did.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2015, 08:23:11 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 05, 2015, 08:25:48 AM
Better villain - Ramsey or Joffrey?Ramsey. He does the dirty work himself and he's much more torturing about it.
Joff was a cold hearted a-hole but at least he never cut off a guy's johnson.
Ramsay can be witty and humorous, even if he is a sadistic madman. He also at least has some sort of an excuse as to why he does what he does. He comes from a family of psychopaths and desperately wants to be accepted as a true Bolton. He's basically the super Bolton.
Joffrey was just a terrible human and didn't have any redeeming qualities as a person or character. The only thing he provided was anger and making everyone wish someone would off him. Not that he wasn't a great character. He was, and his mega-heel status made for a lot of great scenes where you could really root for whoever he was up against.
You hate Joffrey. Ramsay is a sick and twisted eff, but doesn't really invoke seething hatred like Joff did.
Joffrey was given a whole lot more screen time to develop that hatred. Give Ramsey time, and I think you will hate him even more. Joffrey was the more unique character, though. I think I prefer him just for that.
Post by: TownieCat on May 05, 2015, 08:27:32 AM
I'm more scared of Ramsey than Joffery.Absolutely. Joff was very hate-able, but Ramsey is more villainous.
Post by: TownieCat on May 11, 2015, 01:54:29 PM
Ramsey was very Joffrey-ish at dinner. It's pretty much #caseclosed on who is the bigger villain between he and Joff.
Grey Worm!!!!!! :excited:
Post by: AppleJack on May 12, 2015, 10:41:28 AM
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 12, 2015, 12:00:11 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on May 12, 2015, 12:01:41 PM
Is this it? I want to make sure that I'm in the right place.
Post by: TownieCat on May 12, 2015, 12:03:39 PM
Where is the thread where I get mad about the show deviations and get all high and mighty about reading the books?No, this is for the show only.
Is this it? I want to make sure that I'm in the right place.
Post by: Panjandrum on May 12, 2015, 12:04:10 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on May 12, 2015, 04:54:39 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 12, 2015, 06:52:45 PM
yes nothing is going to happen this season unless they fast forward through a bunch of terrible book 4 narrative (looks like they kind of are)
Well ep 9 is going to be the last chapter of book 5 so....
Post by: mocat on May 12, 2015, 08:13:40 PM
Post by: TownieCat on May 12, 2015, 09:18:01 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 13, 2015, 08:07:10 AM
yes nothing is going to happen this season unless they fast forward through a bunch of terrible book 4 narrative (looks like they kind of are)
Well ep 9 is going to be the last chapter of book 5 so....
Interesting if true.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 13, 2015, 08:27:01 AM
Post by: TownieCat on May 13, 2015, 09:25:41 AM
The Boltons have to be really stupid if they think that Sansa is just going to go along with them, right? They have to know that she hates them...Do they just think that she is a quiet little girl who does what she's told and isn't going to try to get revenge?
Sophie Turner has mentioned in interviews that there is a particular scene she filmed this season that was traumatizing. Since she is now wrapped up with the Boltons I'm really afraid of what will happen to her. Given the Boltons history with the Starks nothing would surprise me.
Post by: puniraptor on May 13, 2015, 09:47:28 AM
Sophie Turner has mentioned in interviews that there is a particular scene she filmed this season that was traumatizing.
actor interview media nerds tryin to spoiler should be banished to the book nerd thread
Post by: TownieCat on May 13, 2015, 09:50:37 AM
Sophie Turner has mentioned in interviews that there is a particular scene she filmed this season that was traumatizing.
actor interview media nerds tryin to spoiler should be banished to the book nerd thread
Not really a spoiler. She doesn't say what it is that happens and traumatizing scenes are par for the course on GoT.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 13, 2015, 09:53:50 AM
Sophie Turner has mentioned in interviews that there is a particular scene she filmed this season that was traumatizing.
actor interview media nerds tryin to spoiler should be banished to the book nerd thread
Not really a spoiler. She doesn't say what it is that happens and traumatizing scenes are par for the course on GoT.
Especially when it involves Ramsey.
Post by: puniraptor on May 17, 2015, 09:24:39 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on May 17, 2015, 09:40:23 PM
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Post by: Pete on May 17, 2015, 10:07:13 PM
adebisi tho :love:
I still call him that too.
Post by: Spracne on May 17, 2015, 10:58:56 PM
Post by: nicname on May 18, 2015, 12:11:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIqtnRmjtkg
Post by: Yard Dog on May 18, 2015, 08:52:55 AM
Post by: AppleJack on May 18, 2015, 09:16:46 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 18, 2015, 10:21:43 AM
Glad they've reunited Jamie with the sell-sword - that should be good, even if it is a seemingly pointless mission to Dorne.
The stuff in the North is really getting interesting now with Stannis/Bolton/Snow/Wildlings. That's going to be good I think. I'm still not clear on why Stannis took his new army all the way up north. Did Fire Lady tell him he needed the Wildlings?
Oh yeah, and Dragon Lady is getting super stale. I guess Tyrion will liven that up soon, hopefully.
Post by: Cire on May 18, 2015, 02:17:41 PM
Two episodes into Season 5. Starting pretty slow. Dialogue seems a little mopey and listless at times. I haven't read the books, but I'm a little concerned about where this show is headed without the source material. Like does anybody have any idea what's going to happen with Sansa and LF, or is that going to continue on a really boring/annoying track? But the Breeane/Podrick duo is still funny.
Glad they've reunited Jamie with the sell-sword - that should be good, even if it is a seemingly pointless mission to Dorne.
The stuff in the North is really getting interesting now with Stannis/Bolton/Snow/Wildlings. That's going to be good I think. I'm still not clear on why Stannis took his new army all the way up north. Did Fire Lady tell him he needed the Wildlings?
Oh yeah, and Dragon Lady is getting super stale. I guess Tyrion will liven that up soon, hopefully.
I believe that Stannis knows that the North isn't very Pro Lanister, and he had to retreat after the blackwater
Post by: star seed 7 on May 18, 2015, 07:47:42 PM
Two episodes into Season 5. Starting pretty slow. Dialogue seems a little mopey and listless at times. I haven't read the books, but I'm a little concerned about where this show is headed without the source material. Like does anybody have any idea what's going to happen with Sansa and LF, or is that going to continue on a really boring/annoying track? But the Breeane/Podrick duo is still funny.
Glad they've reunited Jamie with the sell-sword - that should be good, even if it is a seemingly pointless mission to Dorne.
The stuff in the North is really getting interesting now with Stannis/Bolton/Snow/Wildlings. That's going to be good I think. I'm still not clear on why Stannis took his new army all the way up north. Did Fire Lady tell him he needed the Wildlings?
Oh yeah, and Dragon Lady is getting super stale. I guess Tyrion will liven that up soon, hopefully.
I believe that Stannis knows that the North isn't very Pro Lanister, and he had to retreat after the blackwater
that's not it at all. red witch told him to go and save the world
Post by: wabash909 on May 19, 2015, 04:16:32 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 19, 2015, 09:28:39 AM
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/19/senator-quitting-game-thrones
As far as rape scenes go, I didn't really think that one was very gratuitous at all....they cut away and didn't really show it at all.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 19, 2015, 09:35:17 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 19, 2015, 09:40:18 AM
Wasn't much of a rape at all
If I remember correctly they showed more in the Drogo/Dany rape...and that wasn't even a rape in the book. The Ramsey/Sansa rape was even worse in the book than on the show, although it wasn't Sansa in the book....Do you think people care more because it was actually Sansa instead of small character that we know nothing about?
Post by: The1BigWillie on May 19, 2015, 10:04:24 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on May 19, 2015, 10:04:50 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on May 19, 2015, 10:17:51 AM
Post by: puniraptor on May 19, 2015, 10:23:12 AM
Post by: Dub on May 19, 2015, 10:44:24 AM
That cornball ridiculous bullshit with Jamie and Bron in the dessert dressed up as Dornish dudes and then the HORRIBLY choreographed/acted fight seen with the little girls with whips may have been the worst television on an HBO series in the history of all HBO series. It was sad and felt so uncomfortably forced the actors even looked out of sorts. GoT has jumped the shark and they have no idea what they are doing. it's awful. Please bring on True Detective 2 ASAP.
The preview for this the other night was :thumbs: :thumbs:
Post by: nicname on May 19, 2015, 11:35:12 AM
Wasn't much of a rape at all
No such thing as marital rape.
Post by: Spracne on May 19, 2015, 11:40:02 AM
Wasn't much of a rape at all
No such thing as marital rape.
I hear people say this, but i don't think it's actually true.
Post by: nicname on May 19, 2015, 12:37:32 PM
Wasn't much of a rape at all
No such thing as marital rape.
I hear people say this, but i don't think it's actually true.
I've seen at least two marital rapes on GOT and no prosecutions. I haven't even seen anyone go to trial.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 19, 2015, 12:44:37 PM
Wasn't much of a rape at all
No such thing as marital rape.
I hear people say this, but i don't think it's actually true.
I've seen at least two marital rapes on GOT and no prosecutions. I haven't even seen anyone go to trial.
Yeah, on GoT marital rape is not a crime. In fact, Tywin was really mad at Tyrion for not raping Sansa.
Post by: Tobias on May 19, 2015, 12:58:27 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 19, 2015, 01:58:02 PM
Also, would love for Theon to finally have his Darth Vader moment of redemption, but I figured it would have to happen when Ramsey was raping Sansa. Nope.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 19, 2015, 02:03:27 PM
The interwebs are really freaking out over this rape scene. So even if the rapist is a sadistic eff who's clearly a bad guy, you can't depict rape by evil people in a medieval fantasy series? Or did there need to be some sort of trigger warning first?
Also, would love for Theon to finally have his Darth Vader moment of redemption, but I figured it would have to happen when Ramsey was raping Sansa. Nope.
If you didn't see that rape coming then you haven't been paying attention - no trigger warning needed.
It would have been totally out of character for Ramsey to NOT have raped her.
People who are complaining about this are just stupid. They didn't stop watching when Drogo raped Dany. They didn't stop watching when Ramsey tortured and cut of Theon's junk.
The rape of Sansa is part of the story of what Sansa goes through (and the fact that she chose to go through with it). Just because rape is happening in a storyline does not mean that the writers/showrunners are pro-rape (like Wacky).
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 19, 2015, 02:22:34 PM
The interwebs are really freaking out over this rape scene. So even if the rapist is a sadistic eff who's clearly a bad guy, you can't depict rape by evil people in a medieval fantasy series? Or did there need to be some sort of trigger warning first?
Also, would love for Theon to finally have his Darth Vader moment of redemption, but I figured it would have to happen when Ramsey was raping Sansa. Nope.
If you didn't see that rape coming then you haven't been paying attention - no trigger warning needed.
It would have been totally out of character for Ramsey to NOT have raped her.
People who are complaining about this are just stupid. They didn't stop watching when Drogo raped Dany. They didn't stop watching when Ramsey tortured and cut of Theon's junk.
The rape of Sansa is part of the story of what Sansa goes through (and the fact that she chose to go through with it). Just because rape is happening in a storyline does not mean that the writers/showrunners are pro-rape (like Wacky).
Right. I think the Dany and Cersei rapes would actually be more objectionable because Drogo and Jamie are portrayed in at least a somewhat sympathetic light, as are their relationships with the rape victims. I don't get the outrage here.
When Claire McCaskill tweets that this was the final straw for her, it makes me wonder if she even actually watches the show.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 19, 2015, 03:03:40 PM
Post by: nicname on May 19, 2015, 03:22:50 PM
Also, would love for Theon to finally have his Darth Vader moment of redemption, but I figured it would have to happen when Ramsey was raping Sansa. Nope.
They really teased us with him using his real name earlier in the episode. I was really hoping he would stab the dude or something.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 19, 2015, 03:31:41 PM
Also, would love for Theon to finally have his Darth Vader moment of redemption, but I figured it would have to happen when Ramsey was raping Sansa. Nope.
They really teased us with him using his real name earlier in the episode. I was really hoping he would stab the dude or something.
I wish they would have had the scene with Ramsey telling Reek that he had to pretend to be a guy named Theon for the wedding.
Post by: TownieCat on May 19, 2015, 03:43:00 PM
And here's the twist: Ramsey has already been able to impregnate Sansa because Ramsey goes out like NPH in Gone Girl.
Post by: Yard Dog on May 19, 2015, 04:40:12 PM
http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/sophie-turner-george-martin-talk-up-the-recent-game-of-thrones-controversy-322\
Quote from: Sophie Turner
When I read that scene, I kinda loved it. I love the way Ramsay had Theon watching. It was all so messed up. It’s also so daunting for me to do it. I’ve been making [producer Bryan Cogman] feel so bad for writing that scene: “I can’t believe you’re doing this to me!” But I secretly loved it. After Joffrey, she’s escaped him and you think she’s going to lose her virginity to a guy who’s really sweet and takes care of her and she’s thrown in with a guy who’s a whole lot worse. But I kind of like the fact she doesn’t really know what a psycho he is until that night. She has a sense, but she’s more scared of his father. And then that night everything gets so f*cked up.
Post by: nicname on May 19, 2015, 04:45:04 PM
Also, would love for Theon to finally have his Darth Vader moment of redemption, but I figured it would have to happen when Ramsey was raping Sansa. Nope.
They really teased us with him using his real name earlier in the episode. I was really hoping he would stab the dude or something.
I wish they would have had the scene with Ramsey telling Reek that he had to pretend to be a guy named Theon for the wedding.
I know this is book talk (didn't read lol :billdance: <--- ), and we saw Reek have to "play Theon" before, but I had hope, ya know?
Post by: star seed 7 on May 19, 2015, 07:21:51 PM
The interwebs are really freaking out over this rape scene. So even if the rapist is a sadistic eff who's clearly a bad guy, you can't depict rape by evil people in a medieval fantasy series? Or did there need to be some sort of trigger warning first?
Also, would love for Theon to finally have his Darth Vader moment of redemption, but I figured it would have to happen when Ramsey was raping Sansa. Nope.
If you didn't see that rape coming then you haven't been paying attention - no trigger warning needed.
It would have been totally out of character for Ramsey to NOT have raped her.
People who are complaining about this are just stupid. They didn't stop watching when Drogo raped Dany. They didn't stop watching when Ramsey tortured and cut of Theon's junk.
The rape of Sansa is part of the story of what Sansa goes through (and the fact that she chose to go through with it). Just because rape is happening in a storyline does not mean that the writers/showrunners are pro-rape (like Wacky).
Right. I think the Dany and Cersei rapes would actually be more objectionable because Drogo and Jamie are portrayed in at least a somewhat sympathetic light, as are their relationships with the rape victims. I don't get the outrage here.
When Claire McCaskill tweets that this was the final straw for her, it makes me wonder if she even actually watches the show.
get back in the pit, idiot
Post by: The Big Train on May 19, 2015, 07:28:16 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 19, 2015, 07:28:56 PM
have the dragons gotten there yet or are they still on their way?
get back in the 1thread
Post by: The Big Train on May 19, 2015, 07:30:21 PM
Post by: Tobias on May 19, 2015, 10:09:03 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 20, 2015, 08:03:28 AM
have the dragons gotten there yet or are they still on their way?
Gotten where? Two of them are in a dungeon and 1 is flying over old Valyria.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 22, 2015, 11:16:22 AM
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/22/coldplay-game-thrones-musical-emilia-clarke
Post by: mocat on May 22, 2015, 11:31:19 AM
Post by: nicname on May 22, 2015, 09:55:10 PM
http://www.imdb.com/video/demo_reel/vi1778233369
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 24, 2015, 02:46:55 PM
Post by: TownieCat on May 24, 2015, 02:55:37 PM
I'd like to think Theon or Sansa or Breeane is going to kill Ramsey, but it seems like the bad guys win in GoT - until they're killed in a totally unrelated manner.Wouldn't be surprised if Theon tries to kill Ramsey tonight. Weddings usually signal death on this show and Theon's life can't get any worse. He has nothing more to lose.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 24, 2015, 08:34:06 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 25, 2015, 03:13:24 AM
Post by: TownieCat on May 25, 2015, 06:53:55 PM
sam getting all up in dem guts :fatty:
Finished last night's ep and came here for some insight, a recap, etc. Nope! Just lib^7 perving it up.
Post by: puniraptor on May 25, 2015, 07:00:12 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 25, 2015, 07:01:42 PM
Basically the only commentary necessary for that ep
then ending was one of the best scenes of the series
Post by: bubbles4ksu on May 25, 2015, 07:03:56 PM
still sucked because even though cers is getting her comeuppance everyone else is equally mumped as well.Basically the only commentary necessary for that ep
then ending was one of the best scenes of the series
Post by: nicname on May 25, 2015, 07:06:23 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 25, 2015, 07:19:34 PM
still sucked because even though cers is getting her comeuppance everyone else is equally mumped as well.Basically the only commentary necessary for that ep
then ending was one of the best scenes of the series
i was speaking more specifically on the altar scene. it's really great.
#acting
Post by: bubbles4ksu on May 25, 2015, 07:43:52 PM
oh i don't remember that. i watched it after the pak while downing a couple of bloodys.still sucked because even though cers is getting her comeuppance everyone else is equally mumped as well.Basically the only commentary necessary for that ep
then ending was one of the best scenes of the series
i was speaking more specifically on the altar scene. it's really great.
#acting
Post by: mocat on May 26, 2015, 07:02:11 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 26, 2015, 07:48:31 AM
I'd like to think Theon or Sansa or Breeane is going to kill Ramsey, but it seems like the bad guys win in GoT - until they're killed in a totally unrelated manner.Wouldn't be surprised if Theon tries to kill Ramsey tonight. Weddings usually signal death on this show and Theon's life can't get any worse. He has nothing more to lose.
"It can always be worse."
Post by: Kat Kid on May 26, 2015, 08:39:04 AM
Post by: AppleJack on May 26, 2015, 08:48:03 AM
I don't care for any of the story lines right now besides Stannis and Danny.
kinda where I'm at. Although Cersei getting tossed in San Quentin peaked my interest.
Post by: TownieCat on May 26, 2015, 08:49:06 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 26, 2015, 08:49:39 AM
I don't care for any of the story lines right now besides Stannis and Danny.
Stannis is the most boring character on the show.
Post by: TownieCat on May 26, 2015, 08:53:33 AM
Yes. It's a total snoozefest when he's on.I don't care for any of the story lines right now besides Stannis and Danny.
Stannis is the most boring character on the show.
Post by: TownieCat on May 26, 2015, 08:57:39 AM
Post by: puniraptor on May 26, 2015, 09:39:00 AM
I'm pretty curious as to what Little Finger is trying to do. The past 3 episodes he has formed alliances with Lady Olena, Cersei, and the Boltons.
i think he just wants to eff up everything until he is in position to be king
he said before that his goal was to be king of the world
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 26, 2015, 09:49:22 AM
I thought Sansa had some sort of plan in marrying Ramsay. It looking like she didn't really have any plan other than "trust Little Finger." Ouch. Speaking of which, I'm surprised Little Finger is so successfully playing all sides. Don't all these people have their own spy networks?
I didn't expect Tomen to be such a FP, especially after he started getting laid. Disappointing because he seems like a good person, but I guess his only role is to be a puppet.
Sure looks like John Snow is riding right into a trap.
Danny - you're boring. Quit whining and make a move already.
Finally, anybody else rooting for Stannis? At least among the tools who are currently vying for the throne, I like him the best. So I guess he'll probably die soon.
Oh, and Brandon Stark hasn't even made an appearance this season, has he? Huh.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 26, 2015, 09:53:46 AM
This show continues to kick ass. Pretty much every story line, except forDannyDany, continues to be interesting. Tyrion should liven that up. Speaking of Dragon Lady, I thought she commanded that the fighting pits would only be open to free men - not slaves? Did I miss where she changed her mind on that?
I thought Sansa had some sort of plan in marrying Ramsay. It looking like she didn't really have any plan other than "trust Little Finger." Ouch. Speaking of which, I'm surprised Little Finger is so successfully playing all sides. Don't all these people have their own spy networks?
I didn't expect Tomen to be such a FP, especially after he started getting laid. Disappointing because he seems like a good person, but I guess his only role is to be a puppet.
Sure looks like John Snow is riding right into a trap.
Danny - you're boring. Quit whining and make a move already.
Finally, anybody else rooting for Stannis? At least among the tools who are currently vying for the throne, I like him the best. So I guess he'll probably die soon.
Oh, and Brandon Stark hasn't even made an appearance this season, has he? Huh.
I think that Dany is not exactly aware that they are slaves fighting.
Sanas's only plan was "Trust Littlefinger, marry Ramsey until I find an opportunity to strike."
Hopefully Tommen will be less of a FP when he doesn't have his mommy there manipulating him.
Bran Stark will not be in this season.
Post by: TownieCat on May 26, 2015, 12:00:33 PM
This also makes me think that Reek/Theon is making that move. Him ratting out Sansa was a big step towards taking out Ramsey.
Post by: TownieCat on May 26, 2015, 12:01:40 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on May 26, 2015, 12:26:21 PM
Post by: AppleJack on May 26, 2015, 12:57:51 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 26, 2015, 01:07:19 PM
Does Jorah really think Dany is gonna take him back? He's about to turn into stone I mean get a load of this guy.
Typical white, Westerosi, male arrogance.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 26, 2015, 01:14:24 PM
In a typical movie or TV series I would expect for Theon to finally take some type of action to defend or help Sansa.... in this series, I doubt he will because that's what everyone thinks will happen.
I'm not sure it has anything to do with intentionally going against what the audience wants - I just think an overarching theme of this show is that the ruthless and cunning tend to prevail over honor and justice. Ned did what was right - lost his head. Little Finger betrayed him, he prospers. Bronn's win at the Eyrie. The Mountain's win over Oberyn. Geoffry is a sadistic little eff but none of the people he wronged got their revenge - he fell to a plot between Little Finger and House Tyrel.
I'm guessing Theon, Sansa, and none of the other "good guys" are going to bring Ramsay down. Roose or his wife seem more likely to kill him. I'm still hazy on why Roose felt it would be a good idea to inform Ramsay that he is expecting a son. Is he trying to put Ramsay on warning, or is he trying to bait Ramsay into doing something?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 26, 2015, 01:27:46 PM
In a typical movie or TV series I would expect for Theon to finally take some type of action to defend or help Sansa.... in this series, I doubt he will because that's what everyone thinks will happen.
I'm not sure it has anything to do with intentionally going against what the audience wants - I just think an overarching theme of this show is that the ruthless and cunning tend to prevail over honor and justice. Ned did what was right - lost his head. Little Finger betrayed him, he prospers. Bronn's win at the Eyrie. The Mountain's win over Oberyn. Geoffry is a sadistic little eff but none of the people he wronged got their revenge - he fell to a plot between Little Finger and House Tyrel.
I'm guessing Theon, Sansa, and none of the other "good guys" are going to bring Ramsay down. Roose or his wife seem more likely to kill him. I'm still hazy on why Roose felt it would be a good idea to inform Ramsay that he is expecting a son. Is he trying to put Ramsay on warning, or is he trying to bait Ramsay into doing something?
Yeah, but Tyrion got to kill Tywin.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 26, 2015, 02:10:52 PM
In a typical movie or TV series I would expect for Theon to finally take some type of action to defend or help Sansa.... in this series, I doubt he will because that's what everyone thinks will happen.
I'm not sure it has anything to do with intentionally going against what the audience wants - I just think an overarching theme of this show is that the ruthless and cunning tend to prevail over honor and justice. Ned did what was right - lost his head. Little Finger betrayed him, he prospers. Bronn's win at the Eyrie. The Mountain's win over Oberyn. Geoffry is a sadistic little eff but none of the people he wronged got their revenge - he fell to a plot between Little Finger and House Tyrel.
I'm guessing Theon, Sansa, and none of the other "good guys" are going to bring Ramsay down. Roose or his wife seem more likely to kill him. I'm still hazy on why Roose felt it would be a good idea to inform Ramsay that he is expecting a son. Is he trying to put Ramsay on warning, or is he trying to bait Ramsay into doing something?
Yeah, but Tyrion got to kill Tywin.
Yeah, but aside from Tyrion's lofty ideas of love and family loyalty, he's super cunning.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 26, 2015, 05:18:50 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on May 26, 2015, 05:37:45 PM
Post by: TownieCat on May 26, 2015, 08:06:56 PM
Theon is not a good guy even in a relative sense, he's just been victimized by someone more cruel/cunning.Great point. He was very unlikable before Ramsey turned him into Reek.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 26, 2015, 09:24:30 PM
I don't care for any of the story lines right now besides Stannis and Danny.
Stannis is the most boring character on the show.
haters don't understand
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 26, 2015, 11:49:24 PM
Theon is not a good guy even in a relative sense, he's just been victimized by someone more cruel/cunning.
He is a good guy in a relative sense. He also has the potential for redemption, unlike some of the flatter pure evil characters. Other than that, I agree with you. That's why I put "good guys" in quotes. He is good relative to Ramsay.
Post by: Kat Kid on May 26, 2015, 11:53:13 PM
Theon is not a good guy even in a relative sense, he's just been victimized by someone more cruel/cunning.
He is a good guy in a relative sense. He also has the potential for redemption, unlike some of the flatter pure evil characters. Other than that, I agree with you. That's why I put "good guys" in quotes. He is good relative to Ramsay.
What is the good guy part? He betrayed the Starks.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 26, 2015, 11:59:36 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 27, 2015, 08:02:51 AM
But other characters have been redeemed after doing things just as bad. Jaime killed his own cousin to get out when he was captured.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 27, 2015, 08:41:40 AM
Theon is not a good guy even in a relative sense, he's just been victimized by someone more cruel/cunning.
He is a good guy in a relative sense. He also has the potential for redemption, unlike some of the flatter pure evil characters. Other than that, I agree with you. That's why I put "good guys" in quotes. He is good relative to Ramsay.
What is the good guy part? He betrayed the Starks.
I didn't say he was good - I said he was better than Ramsay. And he's redeemable. His dad shipped him off as a child to become the hostage/ward of his enemy. That's pretty mumped up. Everything he did at Winterfell was an effort to prove himself worthy to his POS dad.
Post by: mocat on May 27, 2015, 08:45:58 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 27, 2015, 08:48:46 AM
Post by: TownieCat on May 27, 2015, 08:53:30 AM
Theon is about as redeemable as that Two-For-One Tastee Freeze coupon you've had in your wallet for the last three decades, KSUW.
Theon is a POS. He's had a very terrible time since being taken by the Boltons, but he hasn't done anything since the show started that makes him the least bit likable or redeemable. He's the biggest coward on the show.
Post by: AppleJack on May 27, 2015, 10:00:15 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on May 27, 2015, 11:42:22 AM
Theon is not a good guy even in a relative sense, he's just been victimized by someone more cruel/cunning.
He is a good guy in a relative sense. He also has the potential for redemption, unlike some of the flatter pure evil characters. Other than that, I agree with you. That's why I put "good guys" in quotes. He is good relative to Ramsay.
What is the good guy part? He betrayed the Starks.
I didn't say he was good - I said he was better than Ramsay. And he's redeemable. His dad shipped him off as a child to become the hostage/ward of his enemy. That's pretty mumped up. Everything he did at Winterfell was an effort to prove himself worthy to his POS dad.
Just because Ramsay is cruel does not make him worse than Theon. Ramsay's treatment of Theon does not change Theon's history, it may make him pitiable, but there is not much evidence that he is better than Ramsay.
In the GOT moral universe he is not better than Ramsay because he is a coward (Greyjoy/Iron Isles paradigm), not loyal (Stark/Greyjoy paradigm), and not tough/resilient (Bolton/GOT in general).
Ramsay has done a lot of evil things, but they have mostly been in service of carving out his slice of life. Even when it was pure cruelty, it served to bolster his house's reputation. (flayed man sigil) He has not betrayed his father. Ramsay is an evil, ruthless sadist but how could you possibly think that Theon betraying both his family's core beliefs and then repeatedly betraying the House that he was fostered with are more excusable than Ramsay's excesses?
Theon is weak and so he suffers. On it goes.
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 27, 2015, 12:32:31 PM
Theon is not a good guy even in a relative sense, he's just been victimized by someone more cruel/cunning.
He is a good guy in a relative sense. He also has the potential for redemption, unlike some of the flatter pure evil characters. Other than that, I agree with you. That's why I put "good guys" in quotes. He is good relative to Ramsay.
What is the good guy part? He betrayed the Starks.
I didn't say he was good - I said he was better than Ramsay. And he's redeemable. His dad shipped him off as a child to become the hostage/ward of his enemy. That's pretty mumped up. Everything he did at Winterfell was an effort to prove himself worthy to his POS dad.
Theon is a FP, HC, etc. He deserves what he gets.
fixed
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 27, 2015, 01:22:21 PM
Theon is not a good guy even in a relative sense, he's just been victimized by someone more cruel/cunning.
He is a good guy in a relative sense. He also has the potential for redemption, unlike some of the flatter pure evil characters. Other than that, I agree with you. That's why I put "good guys" in quotes. He is good relative to Ramsay.
What is the good guy part? He betrayed the Starks.
I didn't say he was good - I said he was better than Ramsay. And he's redeemable. His dad shipped him off as a child to become the hostage/ward of his enemy. That's pretty mumped up. Everything he did at Winterfell was an effort to prove himself worthy to his POS dad.
Just because Ramsay is cruel does not make him worse than Theon. Ramsay's treatment of Theon does not change Theon's history, it may make him pitiable, but there is not much evidence that he is better than Ramsay.
In the GOT moral universe he is not better than Ramsay because he is a coward (Greyjoy/Iron Isles paradigm), not loyal (Stark/Greyjoy paradigm), and not tough/resilient (Bolton/GOT in general).
Ramsay has done a lot of evil things, but they have mostly been in service of carving out his slice of life. Even when it was pure cruelty, it served to bolster his house's reputation. (flayed man sigil) He has not betrayed his father. Ramsay is an evil, ruthless sadist but how could you possibly think that Theon betraying both his family's core beliefs and then repeatedly betraying the House that he was fostered with are more excusable than Ramsay's excesses?
Theon is weak and so he suffers. On it goes.
If I was in a room with pre-Reek Theon, he'd probably just brag about how many girls he's shagged (kinda like Beems). If I was in a room with Ramsay, he'd probably peel my face off. Ramsey is a lot worse than Theon.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 27, 2015, 01:54:46 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on May 27, 2015, 02:14:39 PM
Theon is not a good guy even in a relative sense, he's just been victimized by someone more cruel/cunning.
He is a good guy in a relative sense. He also has the potential for redemption, unlike some of the flatter pure evil characters. Other than that, I agree with you. That's why I put "good guys" in quotes. He is good relative to Ramsay.
What is the good guy part? He betrayed the Starks.
I didn't say he was good - I said he was better than Ramsay. And he's redeemable. His dad shipped him off as a child to become the hostage/ward of his enemy. That's pretty mumped up. Everything he did at Winterfell was an effort to prove himself worthy to his POS dad.
Just because Ramsay is cruel does not make him worse than Theon. Ramsay's treatment of Theon does not change Theon's history, it may make him pitiable, but there is not much evidence that he is better than Ramsay.
In the GOT moral universe he is not better than Ramsay because he is a coward (Greyjoy/Iron Isles paradigm), not loyal (Stark/Greyjoy paradigm), and not tough/resilient (Bolton/GOT in general).
Ramsay has done a lot of evil things, but they have mostly been in service of carving out his slice of life. Even when it was pure cruelty, it served to bolster his house's reputation. (flayed man sigil) He has not betrayed his father. Ramsay is an evil, ruthless sadist but how could you possibly think that Theon betraying both his family's core beliefs and then repeatedly betraying the House that he was fostered with are more excusable than Ramsay's excesses?
Theon is weak and so he suffers. On it goes.
If I was in a room with pre-Reek Theon, he'd probably just brag about how many girls he's shagged (kinda like Beems). If I was in a room with Ramsay, he'd probably peel my face off. Ramsey is a lot worse than Theon.
You mean pre-killing some close friends in Winterfell Theon? Or all the way back to ready to rape a wildling before being caught Theon?
Post by: star seed 7 on May 27, 2015, 02:45:58 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on May 27, 2015, 02:55:06 PM
You guys remember when theon finger popped his sister within 5 minutes of meeting her? :lol:
Is KSUW Jim Bob Duggar?
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 27, 2015, 04:20:28 PM
Post by: The Big Train on May 30, 2015, 03:20:49 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 31, 2015, 12:09:46 PM
so the dragons still haven't arrived :frown:
Two of the dragons ate a guy...... and then Drogon was flying over Valyria.
Post by: CNS on May 31, 2015, 12:12:13 PM
Post by: AppleJack on May 31, 2015, 09:16:26 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 31, 2015, 09:44:32 PM
Post by: puniraptor on May 31, 2015, 10:58:27 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 01, 2015, 08:06:28 AM
Very World War Z-esque.
Post by: puniraptor on June 01, 2015, 08:27:04 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 01, 2015, 08:28:30 AM
where did the giant go? am i to assume he made it onto a boat?He's gottta be done, but he was whooping some ass.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 01, 2015, 08:38:01 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 01, 2015, 08:41:10 AM
I think he made it to the boat.That boat is mumped then.
Post by: AppleJack on June 01, 2015, 09:15:02 AM
Post by: OK_Cat on June 01, 2015, 10:38:45 AM
Post by: The1BigWillie on June 01, 2015, 11:02:40 AM
Post by: Mr Bread on June 01, 2015, 11:03:20 AM
Post by: Spracne on June 01, 2015, 11:24:59 AM
Post by: puniraptor on June 01, 2015, 11:25:37 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 01, 2015, 12:28:07 PM
I feel a little gypped (is this racist? and more importantly spelled correctly?) by extended battles like that. Twists and turns are the flavors I crave in a show like GoT, not extended scenes with no betrayals or deaths of major characters.
Fanning, this is how you troll
Post by: CNS on June 01, 2015, 03:00:17 PM
Also, love the deviation from the books on Jon.
Just fantastic stuff.
Post by: mocat on June 01, 2015, 06:47:30 PM
Post by: AppleJack on June 01, 2015, 06:57:05 PM
Post by: TownieCat on June 01, 2015, 07:34:49 PM
Jorah just needs to kill himself.
Post by: mocat on June 01, 2015, 07:45:38 PM
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Post by: michigancat on June 01, 2015, 07:53:18 PM
Yeah that dialogue was just like, eff you George, you could have made this in the books
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I like to think he was getting to that at some point but it's been so long I don't remember if it was possible.
Post by: CNS on June 01, 2015, 08:22:42 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 01, 2015, 08:49:55 PM
They were just floating leisurely away from the white walkers.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 01, 2015, 09:00:12 PM
Post by: puniraptor on June 01, 2015, 09:08:39 PM
I bet the winterfell battle doesn't happen. We get like right on the doorstep, then, booom! White walker giant hits winterfell right in the nuts.Its not going to be a battle. Ramsay and his 20 guys are going to sneak in and flay stannis or the red lady or both
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 01, 2015, 10:00:25 PM
The dialogue was a little muddled with Arya. Can someone explain what's going on there? The captain wanted life insurance but was denied and...?
Post by: CNS on June 01, 2015, 10:42:48 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 02, 2015, 08:41:11 AM
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 02, 2015, 09:40:35 AM
No, the insurer didn't pay some family even though the some now dead capt paid him.
Ok, but the captain in the scene with Arya tried to take out life insurance, and the scammer refused. That doesn't seem like a very good scam, unless he's trying to up the premium?
Also, it seems like this guy wouldn't stay in business very long once word got around that he wasn't paying beneficiaries. I know they don't have Angie's List, but word should get around, right? You've really got to put a hit out on him?
Who knew Game of Thrones could make a life insurance scam so interesting.
Post by: puniraptor on June 02, 2015, 09:46:02 AM
No, the insurer didn't pay some family even though the some now dead capt paid him.
Ok, but the captain in the scene with Arya tried to take out life insurance, and the scammer refused. That doesn't seem like a very good scam, unless he's trying to up the premium?
Also, it seems like this guy wouldn't stay in business very long once word got around that he wasn't paying beneficiaries. I know they don't have Angie's List, but word should get around, right? You've really got to put a hit out on him?
Who knew Game of Thrones could make a life insurance scam so interesting.
he only insures people he thinks wont die. that captain was too old and taking too risky a trip
Post by: star seed 7 on June 02, 2015, 09:49:50 AM
Post by: mocat on June 02, 2015, 10:13:27 AM
Would be nice if someone would kill a few insurance dudes in modern times
arya serious, clark?
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 02, 2015, 10:59:17 AM
Would be nice if someone would kill a few insurance dudes in modern times
the claimless men
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 02, 2015, 11:04:35 AM
No, the insurer didn't pay some family even though the some now dead capt paid him.
Ok, but the captain in the scene with Arya tried to take out life insurance, and the scammer refused. That doesn't seem like a very good scam, unless he's trying to up the premium?
Also, it seems like this guy wouldn't stay in business very long once word got around that he wasn't paying beneficiaries. I know they don't have Angie's List, but word should get around, right? You've really got to put a hit out on him?
Who knew Game of Thrones could make a life insurance scam so interesting.
he only insures people he thinks wont die. that captain was too old and taking too risky a trip
That's not fraud - that's insurance. I think this guy is taking money with no intention of paying it if the guy dies. In which case, I'm not sure why he didn't take the money.
Post by: CNS on June 02, 2015, 11:07:47 AM
Anyway, word has gotten around. That is why the one guy at the temple knows.
For future viewing, I would recommend the implementation of willing suspension of free market belief.
Post by: puniraptor on June 02, 2015, 11:11:36 AM
No, the insurer didn't pay some family even though the some now dead capt paid him.
Ok, but the captain in the scene with Arya tried to take out life insurance, and the scammer refused. That doesn't seem like a very good scam, unless he's trying to up the premium?
Also, it seems like this guy wouldn't stay in business very long once word got around that he wasn't paying beneficiaries. I know they don't have Angie's List, but word should get around, right? You've really got to put a hit out on him?
Who knew Game of Thrones could make a life insurance scam so interesting.
he only insures people he thinks wont die. that captain was too old and taking too risky a trip
That's not fraud - that's insurance. I think this guy is taking money with no intention of paying it if the guy dies. In which case, I'm not sure why he didn't take the money.
he only insures people he thinks wont die, and if his gamble fails he doesnt pay out. he provides no service just takes. NO WONDER YOU LOVE HIM SO MUCH
luckily the free market god is going to judge his ass
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 02, 2015, 11:19:14 AM
No, the insurer didn't pay some family even though the some now dead capt paid him.
Ok, but the captain in the scene with Arya tried to take out life insurance, and the scammer refused. That doesn't seem like a very good scam, unless he's trying to up the premium?
Also, it seems like this guy wouldn't stay in business very long once word got around that he wasn't paying beneficiaries. I know they don't have Angie's List, but word should get around, right? You've really got to put a hit out on him?
Who knew Game of Thrones could make a life insurance scam so interesting.
he only insures people he thinks wont die. that captain was too old and taking too risky a trip
That's not fraud - that's insurance. I think this guy is taking money with no intention of paying it if the guy dies. In which case, I'm not sure why he didn't take the money.
he only insures people he thinks wont die, and if his gamble fails he doesnt pay out. he provides no service just takes. NO WONDER YOU LOVE HIM SO MUCH
luckily the free market god is going to judge his ass
So which king/queen is most likely to decree that all insurance providers have to provide insurance to people they think are going to die? Stannis and Jon Snow both seem like studs of the free market variety. Daeneryscare?
Post by: Yard Dog on June 02, 2015, 11:31:56 AM
I bet the winterfell battle doesn't happen. We get like right on the doorstep, then, booom! White walker giant hits winterfell right in the nuts.Its not going to be a battle. Ramsay and his 20 guys are going to sneak in and flay stannis or the red lady or both
Then what will be the climax to finish the season?
I am thinking:
Jorah kills a bunch of people in the fighting pits and accidentally gives someone stoneman disease.
Tommen uses the army to free his mom and wife and kill the high septon.
Sansa kills Ramsay.
Bran is shown hanging out up north.
Tyrion drinks wine.
Unless they make the Tommen thing super cool, none of that is at the epic level of the episode we just saw. So I don't know what to think.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 02, 2015, 11:35:56 AM
Post by: CNS on June 02, 2015, 11:37:44 AM
Dany seems like socialized healthcare to me. Probably john too
Yep, total libs.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 02, 2015, 11:37:54 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 02, 2015, 11:38:22 AM
I bet the winterfell battle doesn't happen. We get like right on the doorstep, then, booom! White walker giant hits winterfell right in the nuts.Its not going to be a battle. Ramsay and his 20 guys are going to sneak in and flay stannis or the red lady or both
Then what will be the climax to finish the season?
I am thinking:
Jorah kills a bunch of people in the fighting pits and accidentally gives someone stoneman disease.
Tommen uses the army to free his mom and wife and kill the high septon.
Sansa kills Ramsay.
Bran is shown hanging out up north.
Tyrion drinks wine.
Unless they make the Tommen thing super cool, none of that is at the epic level of the episode we just saw. So I don't know what to think.
I'm glad you don't write this series
Post by: CNS on June 02, 2015, 11:39:35 AM
stannis would definitely implement death squads and eugenics policies.
former, yes
latter, nope.
He kept his kid alive even though she has that stone skin thingy.
He will def implement a mandatory religion with burning of deniers.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 02, 2015, 11:41:26 AM
stannis would definitely implement death squads and eugenics policies.
former, yes
latter, nope.
He kept his kid alive even though she has that stone skin thingy.
He will def implement a mandatory religion with burning of deniers.
i don't think you can use his treatment of his child as a bellwether for how he would treat the proletariat.
Post by: TownieCat on June 02, 2015, 11:42:13 AM
Post by: CNS on June 02, 2015, 11:43:32 AM
Also, the Red Lady may pick a new horse soon.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 02, 2015, 11:47:39 AM
No, the insurer didn't pay some family even though the some now dead capt paid him.
Ok, but the captain in the scene with Arya tried to take out life insurance, and the scammer refused. That doesn't seem like a very good scam, unless he's trying to up the premium?
Also, it seems like this guy wouldn't stay in business very long once word got around that he wasn't paying beneficiaries. I know they don't have Angie's List, but word should get around, right? You've really got to put a hit out on him?
Who knew Game of Thrones could make a life insurance scam so interesting.
he only insures people he thinks wont die. that captain was too old and taking too risky a trip
That's not fraud - that's insurance. I think this guy is taking money with no intention of paying it if the guy dies. In which case, I'm not sure why he didn't take the money.
he only insures people he thinks wont die, and if his gamble fails he doesnt pay out. he provides no service just takes. NO WONDER YOU LOVE HIM SO MUCH
luckily the free market god is going to judge his ass
So which king/queen is most likely to decree that all insurance providers have to provide insurance to people they think are going to die? Stannis and Jon Snow both seem like studs of the free market variety. Daeneryscare?
Jon Snow has a perfectly good wall already built and he's using his executive power to just let the immigrants through anyway.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 02, 2015, 11:47:53 AM
Why don't the wights just turn the sea to ice and walk out there? Also why did the one guy settle for just knocking Jon around instead of killing him? Very dumb.
Jon's valyrian steel sword protected him and allowed him to kill the white walker, just as Sam's dragon glass allowed him to kill the white walker he encountered.
Post by: CNS on June 02, 2015, 11:52:01 AM
Post by: mocat on June 02, 2015, 11:53:25 AM
At some point, Arya will be considered trained and will be assigned to go back to Westeros and assassinate those pushing the God of Light. Right? I mean, how else will she tie back in to the story unless she quits?
this is a great question. also what is bran doing? also wheretf is rickon and diagonal head girl?
Post by: TownieCat on June 02, 2015, 11:59:05 AM
I get that, but he was without Longclaw for parts of the battle and the guy didn't take advantage. What I'm getting at is the wights have supernatural abilities but are really shitty fighters.Why don't the wights just turn the sea to ice and walk out there? Also why did the one guy settle for just knocking Jon around instead of killing him? Very dumb.
Jon's valyrian steel sword protected him and allowed him to kill the white walker, just as Sam's dragon glass allowed him to kill the white walker he encountered.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 02, 2015, 12:11:54 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 02, 2015, 12:27:30 PM
I get that, but he was without Longclaw for parts of the battle and the guy didn't take advantage. What I'm getting at is the wights have supernatural abilities but are really shitty fighters.Why don't the wights just turn the sea to ice and walk out there? Also why did the one guy settle for just knocking Jon around instead of killing him? Very dumb.
Jon's valyrian steel sword protected him and allowed him to kill the white walker, just as Sam's dragon glass allowed him to kill the white walker he encountered.
Because Jon Snow is a stud and much better fighter that white walkers....Do wargs have any special usefulness/significance to the Others? Maybe they have a purpose for him?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 02, 2015, 12:29:02 PM
Where has the boy been? The hawk boy?@MrsGooch
Post by: star seed 7 on June 02, 2015, 12:32:18 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 02, 2015, 12:33:38 PM
Post by: AppleJack on June 02, 2015, 12:34:45 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 02, 2015, 12:38:51 PM
sit the next few plays out, WackyOne sec. This kid.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fb%2Fb6%2FPromotional_photo_of_%28%28Isaac_Hempstead-Wright%29%29_as_%28%28Bran_Stark%29%29_on_%27%27%28%28Game_of_Thrones%29%29%27%27.jpeg&hash=075a0e88cc407276553c04774fd0a22730038ea1)
Post by: star seed 7 on June 02, 2015, 12:39:57 PM
Post by: Spracne on June 02, 2015, 12:40:06 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 02, 2015, 12:40:17 PM
sit the next few plays out, WackyOne sec. This kid.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fb%2Fb6%2FPromotional_photo_of_%28%28Isaac_Hempstead-Wright%29%29_as_%28%28Bran_Stark%29%29_on_%27%27%28%28Game_of_Thrones%29%29%27%27.jpeg&hash=075a0e88cc407276553c04774fd0a22730038ea1)
That's Bran. He is in that tree learning to be an awesome warg and ultimate wizard.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 02, 2015, 12:42:26 PM
Post by: mocat on June 02, 2015, 12:42:57 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 02, 2015, 12:43:07 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 02, 2015, 12:45:32 PM
OK, thanks. I've missed him. He saw through that hawks eyes, right? I'M NOT CRAZY!
Maybe, I don't remember that for sure...he did warg in Summer (the direwolf) and Hodor (Hodor!)...
Post by: mocat on June 02, 2015, 12:45:38 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 02, 2015, 12:49:26 PM
not sure if you know what a hawk is wackyIt was black. :don'tcare:
Post by: mocat on June 02, 2015, 12:50:02 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 02, 2015, 12:50:27 PM
not sure if you know what a hawk is wackyIt was black. :don'tcare:
Did it have three eyes?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 02, 2015, 12:50:59 PM
Yes! That's a warg then?not sure if you know what a hawk is wackyIt was black. :don'tcare:
Did it have three eyes?
Post by: star seed 7 on June 02, 2015, 12:51:35 PM
not sure if you know what a hawk is wackyIt was black. :don'tcare:
:D
:lol:
Post by: Spracne on June 02, 2015, 12:52:18 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 02, 2015, 12:52:27 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 02, 2015, 12:52:45 PM
Yes! That's a warg then?not sure if you know what a hawk is wackyIt was black. :don'tcare:
Did it have three eyes?
:lol:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 02, 2015, 12:54:06 PM
It's a Raven you guys! :lol:
Post by: puniraptor on June 02, 2015, 01:06:13 PM
Post by: puniraptor on June 02, 2015, 01:08:00 PM
i think monster mashed mountain is going to bust cersei out. qyburn hinted at it by being all like my work continues wink
and probably kill the high sparrow and lancel and anyone else who gets in his face
Post by: michigancat on June 02, 2015, 01:10:44 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 02, 2015, 01:21:40 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 02, 2015, 01:22:18 PM
No, the insurer didn't pay some family even though the some now dead capt paid him.
Ok, but the captain in the scene with Arya tried to take out life insurance, and the scammer refused. That doesn't seem like a very good scam, unless he's trying to up the premium?
Also, it seems like this guy wouldn't stay in business very long once word got around that he wasn't paying beneficiaries. I know they don't have Angie's List, but word should get around, right? You've really got to put a hit out on him?
Who knew Game of Thrones could make a life insurance scam so interesting.
he only insures people he thinks wont die. that captain was too old and taking too risky a trip
That's not fraud - that's insurance. I think this guy is taking money with no intention of paying it if the guy dies. In which case, I'm not sure why he didn't take the money.
he only insures people he thinks wont die, and if his gamble fails he doesnt pay out. he provides no service just takes. NO WONDER YOU LOVE HIM SO MUCH
luckily the free market god is going to judge his ass
So which king/queen is most likely to decree that all insurance providers have to provide insurance to people they think are going to die? Stannis and Jon Snow both seem like studs of the free market variety. Daeneryscare?
Jon Snow has a perfectly good wall already built and he's using his executive power to just let the immigrants through anyway.
Yeah, but not for humanitarian reasons but to exploit them. He's maybe more a Chamber of Commerce type Westerosian.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 02, 2015, 01:37:10 PM
mods, rename to game of threads show thread for people who are confused by the show threadI really am. :bang: :D
Post by: star seed 7 on June 05, 2015, 11:10:54 PM
Post by: The Big Train on June 05, 2015, 11:12:53 PM
Post by: TownieCat on June 06, 2015, 09:33:12 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on June 07, 2015, 08:42:01 PM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 07, 2015, 08:51:10 PM
Post by: AppleJack on June 07, 2015, 09:04:00 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 07, 2015, 09:06:36 PM
WTF Stannis??????
I just went from thinking he was boring to hating him.
Post by: TownieCat on June 07, 2015, 09:15:46 PM
Post by: AppleJack on June 07, 2015, 09:16:26 PM
WTF Stannis??????
I just went from thinking he was boring to hating him.
I went from rooting for him to still rooting for him but why is he so mean?
Post by: star seed 7 on June 07, 2015, 09:16:36 PM
Post by: AppleJack on June 07, 2015, 09:17:20 PM
stannis is about to wreck crap
yup. ball so hard imo.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 07, 2015, 09:20:55 PM
stannis is about to wreck crap
yup. ball so hard imo.
haters gonna hate, do yo' damn thang stannis
Post by: AppleJack on June 07, 2015, 09:37:31 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on June 07, 2015, 11:13:27 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 07, 2015, 11:25:31 PM
Probably a good thing Claire McCaskill stopped watching a couple epis ago.
Post by: HerrSonntag on June 07, 2015, 11:28:26 PM
Post by: michigancat on June 08, 2015, 12:30:33 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 08, 2015, 07:54:21 AM
WTF Stannis??????
I just went from thinking he was boring to hating him.
I went from rooting for him to still rooting for him but why is he so mean?
I hope the Boltons kill him and that witch.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 08, 2015, 08:09:05 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 08, 2015, 08:20:29 AM
Post by: TownieCat on June 08, 2015, 08:38:45 AM
Do you think that people are going to be upset about Meryn Trant's rape of a little girl like they were about Sansa? No, because she is not a character we care about. (Also, all the people who were upset by the Sansa rape stopped watching. :dubious:)Ser Meryn the Diddler. That guy is a rough ridin' creep.
Will Arya be the "fresh one" tomorrow? It seems likely but who knows because nothing that is obvious ever happens in this show.
Post by: puniraptor on June 08, 2015, 08:55:52 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 08, 2015, 10:08:11 AM
I'm still hoping he kills the Boltons, though. For some reason I find them even more repulsive and I'm not sure why. But then Ser Davos needs to avenge the little girl next season.
Post by: puniraptor on June 08, 2015, 10:17:46 AM
Post by: The Whale on June 08, 2015, 11:08:03 AM
Post by: michigancat on June 08, 2015, 11:16:24 AM
Post by: TownieCat on June 08, 2015, 11:19:46 AM
Did Jorah just give Dany grayscale? :sdeek:I wondered the same thing. The director appeared to let the camera focus on their hands touching for an extra second or two.
Post by: puniraptor on June 08, 2015, 11:22:34 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 08, 2015, 11:25:34 AM
Did Jorah just give Dany grayscale? :sdeek:I wondered the same thing. The director appeared to let the camera focus on their hands touching for an extra second or two.
I think he would have to touch her directly with the infected part of his body, but I'm not 100% sure.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 08, 2015, 11:26:46 AM
were the harpies slaves? was it a false flag the whole time? am i correct in perceiving that the harpies were slaves and they were massacreing the masters?
What? The Harpies are the masters...or working for the masters....and they were just killing ever-y-body.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 08, 2015, 11:31:01 AM
Also, Joran really, really loves Dragonlady, so I doubt he did anything that would infect her.
Post by: puniraptor on June 08, 2015, 11:32:15 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 08, 2015, 11:40:31 AM
ok. it seemed like many or most of them were dressed in slave clothes. also it was made to seem like hizzy was out schemeing the attack but he ended up getting shivved anyway
A lot of them were wearing the same cloth pulled through a metal ring type thing that the guy announcing the fights was wearing...and I took him to be one of the masters because that's who like to promote these fights...
As for Hiz, I really thought that he was on her side, but it was pretty suspicious that he was late. I think they killed him for being on her side (whether he really was or not).
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 08, 2015, 12:23:48 PM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 10, 2015, 08:27:54 AM
Post by: AppleJack on June 10, 2015, 09:41:43 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 10, 2015, 09:42:24 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 10, 2015, 09:43:17 AM
Wowsers! Just got caught up last night. I've been on that orange is the new black binge and it's kept me away. I'm going to need some help on what I just saw!
what are you confused about?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 10, 2015, 09:45:07 AM
Well I was kinda paking last night and the ending is blurry. The dragons came and mumped crap up! Who all died in that battle?Wowsers! Just got caught up last night. I've been on that orange is the new black binge and it's kept me away. I'm going to need some help on what I just saw!
what are you confused about?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 10, 2015, 09:51:14 AM
Well I was kinda paking last night and the ending is blurry. The dragons came and mumped crap up! Who all died in that battle?Wowsers! Just got caught up last night. I've been on that orange is the new black binge and it's kept me away. I'm going to need some help on what I just saw!
what are you confused about?
How many dragons did you see?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 10, 2015, 09:51:53 AM
Well I was kinda paking last night and the ending is blurry. The dragons came and mumped crap up! Who all died in that battle?Wowsers! Just got caught up last night. I've been on that orange is the new black binge and it's kept me away. I'm going to need some help on what I just saw!
what are you confused about?
Shireen
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 10, 2015, 10:04:47 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 10, 2015, 10:48:53 AM
Did that girl have what those stone guys have that touched that one guy who use to be under the queen of dragons? Why hasn't he turned into a stone guy yet?
The girl had it, but was somehow cured because her dad spared no expense in saving her, only to later burn her at the stake.
The guy who used to be under queen of dragons also has it, but it takes time to spread.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 10, 2015, 10:49:43 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 10, 2015, 10:50:22 AM
The Drogon reunion was much more satisfying than in the book, iirc.
Some of the dragon and fighting pit CGI was really top-notch in that last episode.
Post by: HerrSonntag on June 10, 2015, 12:34:28 PM
In the books, they mention that children often survive grayscale but are left disfigured (I think they even casually mention other children/adults with scars) but that it is always fatal to adults. Think of it like a nasty version of chickenpox.Did that girl have what those stone guys have that touched that one guy who use to be under the queen of dragons? Why hasn't he turned into a stone guy yet?
The girl had it, but was somehow cured because her dad spared no expense in saving her, only to later burn her at the stake.
The guy who used to be under queen of dragons also has it, but it takes time to spread.
Also, to grayscale nerd out, its supposed to be an allegory for leprosy. Many substances have placeholder names (milk-of-the-poppy:opioum, dragonglass-obsidian, etc) in the series and some of the descriptions of greyscale are similar to medieval qualities of leprosy (those afflicted are considered "unclean", shunned off to colonies of the infirmed). As such, leprosy is not something just anyone can get. Only people whose body temperature runs on the low side are susceptible to it. Dany having dragon's blood is far too spicy for grayscale. Boom.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 10, 2015, 05:32:04 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 10, 2015, 05:32:43 PM
Good grief
This was to herrnerdtag, not WackyCat08
Post by: HerrSonntag on June 11, 2015, 08:41:19 AM
Don't be jelly, just step your fantasy canon speculative disease fan fiction game up.Good grief
This was to herrnerdtag, not WackyCat08
Post by: Yard Dog on June 11, 2015, 08:59:49 AM
I respect your thought process Herr-dor. I was wondering what would happen if the stone people gave their stone disease to the White Walkers. It would be like Boom! Biological warfare bitches.Don't be jelly, just step your fantasy canon speculative disease fan fiction game up.Good grief
This was to herrnerdtag, not WackyCat08
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 11, 2015, 09:18:25 AM
I respect your thought process Herr-dor. I was wondering what would happen if the stone people gave their stone disease to the White Walkers. It would be like Boom! Biological warfare bitches.Don't be jelly, just step your fantasy canon speculative disease fan fiction game up.Good grief
This was to herrnerdtag, not WackyCat08
I don't think White Walkers can get grescale....your blood needs to be circulating to get it to progress through your body. But someone with greyscale could be turned into a White Walker.
Post by: HerrSonntag on June 11, 2015, 09:28:31 AM
And what if the same process that transforms a person into a white walker transforms greyscale into frostscale(tm)? Boom, long night ended.I respect your thought process Herr-dor. I was wondering what would happen if the stone people gave their stone disease to the White Walkers. It would be like Boom! Biological warfare bitches.Don't be jelly, just step your fantasy canon speculative disease fan fiction game up.Good grief
This was to herrnerdtag, not WackyCat08
I don't think White Walkers can get grescale....your blood needs to be circulating to get it to progress through your body. But someone with greyscale could be turned into a White Walker.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 11, 2015, 02:28:57 PM
Post by: michigancat on June 11, 2015, 02:40:39 PM
Post by: Benja on June 11, 2015, 02:45:37 PM
Post by: Benja on June 11, 2015, 02:46:53 PM
this season is kind of lame
It's good but also lame at the same time somehow.
Post by: CNS on June 11, 2015, 02:47:26 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 11, 2015, 02:50:39 PM
The riding the dragon thing pissed me off
Why?
Post by: Benja on June 11, 2015, 02:53:00 PM
The riding the dragon thing pissed me off
Why?
I dunno. Like of course it was going to happen at some point but it seemed very Disney or something. But you know what? I still enjoyed the episode very much.
Post by: michigancat on June 11, 2015, 02:55:28 PM
Post by: Benja on June 11, 2015, 03:02:22 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 11, 2015, 03:45:37 PM
Post by: Benja on June 11, 2015, 04:24:10 PM
"I want this season to be exactly like the others, you know, be more unique"
I wanted to like your post by obvs I was talking about the show as a whole not individual seasons. The show is still awesome though. And really there is so much going on now as far as storylines that its going to be more action.
Post by: Yard Dog on June 11, 2015, 04:28:00 PM
the whole fighting pit was just laughable. the guys in masks were like untrained bad guy ninjas in a bad ninja movie. And the CGI sucked.
I will never get over how easily the unsullied are killed by random untrained fighters. Not to mention how insanely accurate they were with spears when throwing at Drogon.
That being said, when Danny interacted with Drogon the CGI was poor, but on a TV scale that was still pretty phenomenal. And all the parts where Drogon was by himself were pretty epic.
Post by: TownieCat on June 11, 2015, 05:09:26 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fak-hdl.buzzfed.com%2Fstatic%2F2015-06%2F10%2F18%2Fenhanced%2Fwebdr02%2Fenhanced-5130-1433974427-1.jpg&hash=8051c5ba4137e4e6fa53e1cf1c49b68c5a9f950e)The Stannis supporters are monsters.
Post by: AppleJack on June 11, 2015, 06:09:32 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 11, 2015, 06:15:28 PM
Post by: AppleJack on June 14, 2015, 09:03:57 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 14, 2015, 09:06:10 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 14, 2015, 09:19:23 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on June 14, 2015, 09:32:12 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on June 14, 2015, 09:32:44 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on June 14, 2015, 11:08:00 PM
-Book Readers
Post by: Spracne on June 14, 2015, 11:11:03 PM
Post by: Pete on June 14, 2015, 11:14:31 PM
Post by: The Big Train on June 14, 2015, 11:30:48 PM
I felt like not much happened until this episode. Like, tune in next season, now that some crap done did go down!
the good stuff is coming, I promise!
Post by: michigancat on June 15, 2015, 12:00:05 AM
Post by: Dub on June 15, 2015, 12:03:18 AM
I felt like not much happened until this episode. Like, tune in next season, now that some crap done did go down!
I think the last 3-4 episodes have been the most consecutively exciting since it has started.
Post by: michigancat on June 15, 2015, 12:04:33 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 15, 2015, 07:01:31 AM
I guess I didn't really care too much about lil Lanister. The Cersei moment was also a little anticlimactic because I just don't like her. At all.
Dragon lady is back with dothraki, which I'm not too excited about, but we'll see. Why did she take the ring off?
Sansa and Theon - dead or the next Arya/Hound? I'm hoping for the latter.
All in all a pretty shitty season finale, but I still think it'll all pay off.
Post by: Yard Dog on June 15, 2015, 11:09:46 AM
The Theon Sansa jump was annoying. I don't know why they left that ambiguous. The show creators were not trying to be secretive after the show saying that her and Theon escaped. Why not show that when they jump it is different than when that other girl got pushed. How much snow would have to be down there to break that fall?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 15, 2015, 11:22:15 AM
The show creators explained that Danny took off the ring so that anyone following after would know they were in the right place. Are you kidding me? Who is going to stumble across that tiny little ring in an area that big?
This was my initial thought on why she took off the ring, but yes it will be a really big coincidence when Jorah & Daario find it.
The Theon Sansa jump was annoying. I don't know why they left that ambiguous. The show creators were not trying to be secretive after the show saying that her and Theon escaped. Why not show that when they jump it is different than when that other girl got pushed. How much snow would have to be down there to break that fall?
Sure they escape, but how badly were they hurt in the jump? Have to watch next season to find out.
Post by: Dub on June 15, 2015, 12:11:44 PM
The show creators explained that Danny took off the ring so that anyone following after would know they were in the right place. Are you kidding me? Who is going to stumble across that tiny little ring in an area that big?
The Theon Sansa jump was annoying. I don't know why they left that ambiguous. The show creators were not trying to be secretive after the show saying that her and Theon escaped. Why not show that when they jump it is different than when that other girl got pushed. How much snow would have to be down there to break that fall?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlJ5W-mQHfU
Post by: TownieCat on June 15, 2015, 12:17:48 PM
I have a hard time believing Jon is dead, but rather only temporarily dead.
Post by: michigancat on June 15, 2015, 12:19:05 PM
The show creators explained that Danny took off the ring so that anyone following after would know they were in the right place. Are you kidding me? Who is going to stumble across that tiny little ring in an area that big?
The Theon Sansa jump was annoying. I don't know why they left that ambiguous. The show creators were not trying to be secretive after the show saying that her and Theon escaped. Why not show that when they jump it is different than when that other girl got pushed. How much snow would have to be down there to break that fall?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlJ5W-mQHfU
of course it was Russians
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 15, 2015, 12:36:28 PM
Exactly what was Dany hoping to accomplish when she walked away from Drogon? I understand that she was hungry but she was not equipped to hunt or anything.
I have a hard time believing Jon is dead, but rather only temporarily dead.
She was just trying to get the lay of the land - see if she could figure out where she was or how far away from Meeren Drogon had taken her.
Post by: Yard Dog on June 15, 2015, 12:42:41 PM
Exactly what was Dany hoping to accomplish when she walked away from Drogon? I understand that she was hungry but she was not equipped to hunt or anything.
I have a hard time believing Jon is dead, but rather only temporarily dead.
She was just trying to get the lay of the land - see if she could figure out where she was or how far away from Meeren Drogon had taken her.
And very unfortunately Drogon is in no shape to swing in and save her in the near future. Too bad she locked up her other dragons.
Jon is definitely going to be resurrected by Melisandre. Otherwise why would she return to castle black specifically and not ride somewhere else entirely?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 15, 2015, 12:53:02 PM
Exactly what was Dany hoping to accomplish when she walked away from Drogon? I understand that she was hungry but she was not equipped to hunt or anything.
I have a hard time believing Jon is dead, but rather only temporarily dead.
She was just trying to get the lay of the land - see if she could figure out where she was or how far away from Meeren Drogon had taken her.
And very unfortunately Drogon is in no shape to swing in and save her in the near future. Too bad she locked up her other dragons.
Jon is definitely going to be resurrected by Melisandre. Otherwise why would she return to castle black specifically and not ride somewhere else entirely?
I don't think those Dothraki are there to hurt Dany. I think they are there to follow her...but that's just speculation.
Post by: OK_Cat on June 15, 2015, 01:03:03 PM
Post by: Gooch on June 15, 2015, 01:08:42 PM
people are going to get super butthurt'y about that rape scene.Exactly what was Dany hoping to accomplish when she walked away from Drogon? I understand that she was hungry but she was not equipped to hunt or anything.
I have a hard time believing Jon is dead, but rather only temporarily dead.
She was just trying to get the lay of the land - see if she could figure out where she was or how far away from Meeren Drogon had taken her.
And very unfortunately Drogon is in no shape to swing in and save her in the near future. Too bad she locked up her other dragons.
Jon is definitely going to be resurrected by Melisandre. Otherwise why would she return to castle black specifically and not ride somewhere else entirely?
I don't think those Dothraki are there to hurt Dany. I think they are there to follow her...but that's just speculation.
Post by: michigancat on June 15, 2015, 01:09:06 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 15, 2015, 01:12:30 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 15, 2015, 01:25:02 PM
I wonder if Stannis is really dead.
I wondered that too, but what is the point in him being alive? He lost his daughter, wife, and army. He is only good for supporting some other person wanting the thrown.
Post by: puniraptor on June 15, 2015, 01:30:29 PM
He earned a filthy on camera death.I wonder if Stannis is really dead.
I wondered that too, but what is the point in him being alive? He lost his daughter, wife, and army. He is only good for supporting some other person wanting the thrown.
Post by: michigancat on June 15, 2015, 01:30:36 PM
I wonder if Stannis is really dead.
I wondered that too, but what is the point in him being alive? He lost his daughter, wife, and army. He is only good for supporting some other person wanting the thrown.
I wasn't wondering it because the show has shown every beheading and death in gruesome full detail. Of course he's alive.
Post by: Spracne on June 15, 2015, 01:34:55 PM
I wonder if Stannis is really dead.
I wondered that too, but what is the point in him being alive? He lost his daughter, wife, and army. He is only good for supporting some other person wanting the thrown.
I wasn't wondering it because the show has shown every beheading and death in gruesome full detail. Of course he's alive.
I'm a little annoyed at all the death cliffhangers. Are these people alive or dead?
-Arya
-Jon Snow
-Stannis
-Sansa
-Theon
-Myrcella
At least some of those people have to actually be dead, right? Having all of them alive would just be too gimmicky.
Post by: michigancat on June 15, 2015, 01:36:19 PM
I wonder if Stannis is really dead.
I wondered that too, but what is the point in him being alive? He lost his daughter, wife, and army. He is only good for supporting some other person wanting the thrown.
I wasn't wondering it because the show has shown every beheading and death in gruesome full detail. Of course he's alive.
I'm a little annoyed at all the death cliffhangers. Are these people alive or dead?
-Arya
-Jon Snow
-Stannis
-Sansa
-Theon
-Myrcella
At least some of those people have to actually be dead, right? Having all of them alive would just be too gimmicky.
well it's a tried and true GRMM gimmick so
Post by: puniraptor on June 15, 2015, 01:38:09 PM
I wonder if Stannis is really dead.
I wondered that too, but what is the point in him being alive? He lost his daughter, wife, and army. He is only good for supporting some other person wanting the thrown.
I wasn't wondering it because the show has shown every beheading and death in gruesome full detail. Of course he's alive.
I'm a little annoyed at all the death cliffhangers. Are these people alive or dead?
-Arya
-Jon Snow
-Stannis
-Sansa
-Theon
-Myrcella
At least some of those people have to actually be dead, right? Having all of them alive would just be too gimmicky.
Alive
Dead for now
Alive
Alive
Alive
Dead forever
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 15, 2015, 01:39:26 PM
I wonder if Stannis is really dead.
I wondered that too, but what is the point in him being alive? He lost his daughter, wife, and army. He is only good for supporting some other person wanting the thrown.
I wasn't wondering it because the show has shown every beheading and death in gruesome full detail. Of course he's alive.
I'm a little annoyed at all the death cliffhangers. Are these people alive or dead?
-Arya
-Jon Snow
-Stannis
-Sansa
-Theon
-Myrcella
At least some of those people have to actually be dead, right? Having all of them alive would just be too gimmicky.
I think Myrcella is dead. It would be great if Jon Snow were. I doubt anyone else is.
Post by: Spracne on June 15, 2015, 01:39:53 PM
I wonder if Stannis is really dead.
I wondered that too, but what is the point in him being alive? He lost his daughter, wife, and army. He is only good for supporting some other person wanting the thrown.
I wasn't wondering it because the show has shown every beheading and death in gruesome full detail. Of course he's alive.
I'm a little annoyed at all the death cliffhangers. Are these people alive or dead?
-Arya
-Jon Snow
-Stannis
-Sansa
-Theon
-Myrcella
At least some of those people have to actually be dead, right? Having all of them alive would just be too gimmicky.
well it's a tried and true GRMM gimmick so
Yes I know, but surely they wouldn't apply the same gimmick to six characters and events in a single episode. Would come across as tacky and lazy writing. At least two of those people are dead, dead. My guess would be Myrcella and Stannis*.
If Stannis is still alive, then Brienne is likely dead.
Post by: puniraptor on June 15, 2015, 01:40:18 PM
Post by: michigancat on June 15, 2015, 01:41:26 PM
Is the hound dead?
probably not
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 15, 2015, 01:43:08 PM
Is the hound dead?
probably not
I think he makes his way back to King's Landing to fight Zombie Mountain during Cersei's trial. Every trial so far has ended in combat.
Post by: michigancat on June 15, 2015, 01:45:01 PM
Post by: mocat on June 15, 2015, 01:48:21 PM
Post by: puniraptor on June 15, 2015, 01:49:09 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 15, 2015, 01:50:05 PM
Have we talked about how awful Daario's accent is? He's much better in Orphan Black.
Oh yeah, I've been meaning to confirm whether that was the same guy like I thought.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 15, 2015, 01:50:48 PM
Post by: Yard Dog on June 15, 2015, 01:51:34 PM
I wonder if Stannis is really dead.
I wondered that too, but what is the point in him being alive? He lost his daughter, wife, and army. He is only good for supporting some other person wanting the thrown.
I heard it suggested that possibly Brienne would keep him alive as a bargaining chip to get Sansa back.
Post by: michigancat on June 15, 2015, 01:51:59 PM
Post by: Yard Dog on June 15, 2015, 01:54:26 PM
Oh, and Ollie stabbing Jon was some of the most God-awful obvious foreshadowing I've ever seen.
This season had several of those types of too obvious groaners. When Sansa was headed to the tower I called it that Brienne would just miss seeing it by seconds. Predictable / annoying.
Post by: mocat on June 15, 2015, 01:59:27 PM
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 15, 2015, 03:01:34 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 15, 2015, 03:11:03 PM
Arya is blind, not dead. Why was she even on the possibly dead list?
Because this is the thread for people who haven't read the books.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 15, 2015, 03:14:41 PM
Arya is blind, not dead. Why was she even on the possibly dead list?
Because this is the thread for people who haven't read the books.
Has nothing to do with the books. I didn't take it as she was dead on the show.
Post by: TownieCat on June 15, 2015, 03:15:25 PM
I haven't read the books and thought it was very obvious that she was only blinded and not dead.Arya is blind, not dead. Why was she even on the possibly dead list?
Because this is the thread for people who haven't read the books.
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 15, 2015, 03:15:38 PM
What gives?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 15, 2015, 03:17:34 PM
so, can somebody explain to me why cercei was locked up for so long without the King's Guard just laying waste to that place? Like, they just let the Sparrow take her prisoner and take her out of the Red Keep? And then didn't do anything while she was prisoner?
What gives?
Because Tommen has no idea what to do when his mommy isn't there to manipulate him.
Also, the King's Guard is only like 6 guys, right? And Cersei gave the Faith Militant a whole army basically....
Post by: Spracne on June 15, 2015, 03:22:55 PM
I haven't read the books and thought it was very obvious that she was only blinded and not dead.Arya is blind, not dead. Why was she even on the possibly dead list?
Because this is the thread for people who haven't read the books.
Well, she took someone's life that wasn't hers to take, and jaqen said only death can pay life, and then drank that potion. I don't think it's stupid to infer that the character might be dead as a result. Uppity-ass nerds...
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 15, 2015, 03:24:39 PM
so, can somebody explain to me why cercei was locked up for so long without the King's Guard just laying waste to that place? Like, they just let the Sparrow take her prisoner and take her out of the Red Keep? And then didn't do anything while she was prisoner?
What gives?
Because Tommen has no idea what to do when his mommy isn't there to manipulate him.
Also, the King's Guard is only like 6 guys, right? And Cersei gave the Faith Militant a whole army basically....
I didn't mean the King's Guard - I generally meant the entire royal army (whatever it's called). like, they had this big exchange at the bridge to the Red Keep, lined with armed royal guards - just standing there. Like, does the royal military not control the entirety of King's Landing? Or are they only empowered to protect the castle?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 15, 2015, 03:25:54 PM
I haven't read the books and thought it was very obvious that she was only blinded and not dead.Arya is blind, not dead. Why was she even on the possibly dead list?
Because this is the thread for people who haven't read the books.
Well, she took someone's life that wasn't hers to take, and jaqen said only death can pay life, and then drank that potion. I don't think it's stupid to infer that the character might be dead as a result. Uppity-ass nerds...
Yeah, and she saw her own dead face on the body before she started going blind.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 15, 2015, 03:27:38 PM
so, can somebody explain to me why cercei was locked up for so long without the King's Guard just laying waste to that place? Like, they just let the Sparrow take her prisoner and take her out of the Red Keep? And then didn't do anything while she was prisoner?
What gives?
Because Tommen has no idea what to do when his mommy isn't there to manipulate him.
Also, the King's Guard is only like 6 guys, right? And Cersei gave the Faith Militant a whole army basically....
I didn't mean the King's Guard - I generally meant the entire royal army (whatever it's called). like, they had this big exchange at the bridge to the Red Keep, lined with armed royal guards - just standing there. Like, does the royal military not control the entirety of King's Landing? Or are they only empowered to protect the castle?
They only do what Tommen tells them to. He was going to use them to free Margaery, but Cersei convinced him not to, telling him that the Sparrows would kill her in her cell before he could rescue her. I'm sure he feels the same holds true if he were to try to rescue his mother.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 15, 2015, 03:39:59 PM
Post by: Spracne on June 15, 2015, 03:41:57 PM
Post by: Benja on June 16, 2015, 12:58:42 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 16, 2015, 09:54:46 AM
But I did like two things: Stannis's end was well done. "On to Winterfell." The way he unsheathed his sword with resignation as the Bolton army approached. His confession to Breanne. It was good.
I also liked the Sansa/Theon bit.
Post by: Bill Clarahan on June 16, 2015, 12:30:05 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 16, 2015, 12:31:05 PM
If anyone is trying to figure out a fantasy story in some guys head, good luck. I think you should just roll with it and enjoy the T & A
So you really liked that Cersei scene then?
Post by: dmartin on June 16, 2015, 02:26:48 PM
If anyone is trying to figure out a fantasy story in some guys head, good luck. I think you should just roll with it and enjoy the T & A
So you really liked that Cersei scene then?
talk about titillating....
Post by: Bill Clarahan on June 16, 2015, 02:33:45 PM
If anyone is trying to figure out a fantasy story in some guys head, good luck. I think you should just roll with it and enjoy the T & A
So you really liked that Cersei scene then?
I liked it until they started throwing feces on her, then the smell kinda ruined it.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 16, 2015, 02:42:08 PM
Post by: Spracne on June 16, 2015, 02:46:05 PM
If anyone is trying to figure out a fantasy story in some guys head, good luck. I think you should just roll with it and enjoy the T & A
So you really liked that Cersei scene then?
I liked it until they started throwing feces on her, then the smell kinda ruined it.
You have a smellovision? :Wha:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 16, 2015, 02:46:54 PM
I thought those were tomatoes. Wow! That's why I really need this thread. Also, I had a dream last night that I went to the bars with a couple of my friends and the dwarf as well. We were best friends and talking about his new parts in movies coming up. How random. He was pretty fun tho!Also, I was really drunk in my dream, so the bartenders weren't serving me, but the lil one wanted me to stay out still. So weird.
Post by: TownieCat on June 16, 2015, 05:21:11 PM
Post by: Cire on June 16, 2015, 06:33:07 PM
Post by: Spracne on June 16, 2015, 06:49:02 PM
People are going to freak when next season is branapalooza and zombie catelyn
I can't wait. All Bran all the time, communicating telepathically with Ghost warg Jon Snow. :love:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 16, 2015, 09:38:40 PM
How cowardly was it for Reek/Theon to finally make a move to protect Sansa, but only against Myranda and not Ramsey? 6 out 7 on the cowardly scale IMO.
Well it was a lot less cowardly than turning Sansa over to Ramsey.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 16, 2015, 10:32:39 PM
How cowardly was it for Reek/Theon to finally make a move to protect Sansa, but only against Myranda and not Ramsey? 6 out 7 on the cowardly scale IMO.
Well it was a lot less cowardly than turning Sansa over to Ramsey.
I'm not sure what else Theon needs to do to finally get out of the doghouse for some of these people. Yes, he was generally a prick and also did some appalling things to try to prove himself to his appalling father. I think he's suffered quite a bit for those decisions. I also think he's recognized the evil things he's done and he'll continue to redeem himself (if he survives the fall).
Post by: mocat on June 19, 2015, 09:02:56 AM
People are going to freak when next season is branapalooza and zombie catelynAll Bran all the time
:cyclist:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 19, 2015, 09:05:20 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 19, 2015, 09:31:48 AM
I read an article where some people are claiming that Jon's eyes changed color to purple (known Targ eye color) as he lay there dying....I did not notice this and have not gone back to watch.
:jeffy:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 19, 2015, 09:35:12 AM
Post by: TownieCat on June 19, 2015, 09:37:58 AM
I read an article where some people are claiming that Jon's eyes changed color to purple (known Targ eye color) as he lay there dying....I did not notice this and have not gone back to watch.I may have read the same article and couldn't see anything. Some fans are really stretching with their theories, but who really knows. Anything is possible on this show, but I find it extremely difficult to believe that a few daggers to the torso would magically reveal Jon's heritage.
Also, have they made a big deal about Targaryen eyes being purple on the show? I understand that it's in the books...
http://www.mtv.com/news/2188831/game-of-thrones-jon-snow-dies-eyes/ (http://www.mtv.com/news/2188831/game-of-thrones-jon-snow-dies-eyes/)
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 19, 2015, 09:41:42 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 19, 2015, 09:49:42 AM
I read an article where some people are claiming that Jon's eyes changed color to purple (known Targ eye color) as he lay there dying....I did not notice this and have not gone back to watch.I may have read the same article and couldn't see anything. Some fans are really stretching with their theories, but who really knows. Anything is possible on this show, but I find it extremely difficult to believe that a few daggers to the torso would magically reveal Jon's heritage.
Also, have they made a big deal about Targaryen eyes being purple on the show? I understand that it's in the books...
http://www.mtv.com/news/2188831/game-of-thrones-jon-snow-dies-eyes/ (http://www.mtv.com/news/2188831/game-of-thrones-jon-snow-dies-eyes/)
Yes, that is the article I read. They haven't made any mention of it on the shows, and I don't think Dany has purple eyes.
Post by: TownieCat on June 19, 2015, 10:01:24 AM
Post by: CNS on June 19, 2015, 10:02:35 AM
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Post by: TownieCat on June 19, 2015, 10:05:56 AM
Good thread titles helped.I meant in general, not just this board.
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 19, 2015, 10:18:59 AM
I'm very thankful and a little impressed that book readers like roidhead and Mrs G were able to keep Jon's "death" a secret for the past 4 years. Not sure I could've done the same. :thumbs:
I'm pretty sure that jmlynch ruined it for mocat though.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 19, 2015, 10:19:30 AM
I'm very thankful and a little impressed that book readers like roidhead and Mrs G were able to keep Jon's "death" a secret for the past 4 years. Not sure I could've done the same. :thumbs:
i am the definition of self-restraint.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 19, 2015, 10:20:34 AM
Post by: TownieCat on June 19, 2015, 10:30:58 AM
My coworker and I were talking about the last episode out in the open yesterday and I think two ppl were about to cry, because we spoiled it for them. I mean, how hardcore could they have been on the show, if it's Thursday, and you haven't seen the last episode yet? :dunno:
IMO that's their fault, not yours. I'd be more sympathetic if they had just started the series and were a couple seasons behind.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 19, 2015, 10:32:15 AM
My coworker and I were talking about the last episode out in the open yesterday and I think two ppl were about to cry, because we spoiled it for them. I mean, how hardcore could they have been on the show, if it's Thursday, and you haven't seen the last episode yet? :dunno:
They should have gotten up and walked away as soon as they heard the name Jon Snow so that they could continue to know nothing.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 19, 2015, 10:33:44 AM
Post by: mocat on June 19, 2015, 11:07:03 AM
I'm very thankful and a little impressed that book readers like roidhead and Mrs G were able to keep Jon's "death" a secret for the past 4 years. Not sure I could've done the same. :thumbs:
I'm pretty sure that jmlynch ruined it for mocat though.
also the red wedding
Post by: Spracne on June 19, 2015, 11:21:12 AM
My coworker and I were talking about the last episode out in the open yesterday and I think two ppl were about to cry, because we spoiled it for them. I mean, how hardcore could they have been on the show, if it's Thursday, and you haven't seen the last episode yet? :dunno:
They should have gotten up and walked away as soon as they heard the name Jon Snow so that they could continue to know nothing.
:D
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 19, 2015, 02:09:02 PM
Post by: Spracne on June 19, 2015, 02:19:27 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 19, 2015, 02:22:35 PM
http://www.avclub.com/article/gaze-upon-casting-call-male-flasher-game-thrones-a-221101
He will be standing with another flasher so he won't be alone. Well that's comforting.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 19, 2015, 02:26:46 PM
SFW?
Yeah, no pictures.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 22, 2015, 09:45:52 AM
:love:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 22, 2015, 09:48:33 AM
https://www.facebook.com/UniversalMusicMENA/videos/829086520517056/
:love:
Thanks for the video WackyLuke08.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 22, 2015, 09:49:09 AM
Post by: Cire on July 07, 2015, 10:12:15 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on July 07, 2015, 10:13:17 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on July 08, 2015, 09:05:10 AM
Many are confident Melisandre's blood magic will bring Jon Snow back to life and reveal him as the blood of a dragon (Targaryen). Fire will be involved (like it was for Daenerys).
Going a step further, I feel like at some point Jon and Daenerys will unite and kick White Walker ass with dragons.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 01, 2015, 08:20:55 PM
Post by: CNS on August 01, 2015, 08:25:39 PM
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Post by: Bill Clarahan on August 02, 2015, 09:10:34 AM
ian mcshane has been cast for a "mystery role" in season 6 :excited:
As a cursing, conniving, bartender, no doubt.
Post by: TownieCat on August 02, 2015, 10:13:03 AM
Post by: CNS on August 02, 2015, 10:32:20 AM
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Post by: TownieCat on August 02, 2015, 10:39:10 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on August 02, 2015, 10:50:22 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 02, 2015, 11:08:26 AM
he would be great as a greyjoy.
Euron is the other rumor, and who I'm personally hoping for
Post by: TownieCat on August 02, 2015, 11:14:09 AM
Post by: CNS on August 02, 2015, 11:30:39 AM
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Post by: puniraptor on August 02, 2015, 06:38:34 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 02, 2015, 06:50:48 PM
ian mcshane has been cast for a "mystery role" in season 6 :excited:
As a cursing, conniving, bartender, no doubt.
I hope he gets to say cocksucker.....
Post by: Spracne on August 12, 2015, 01:09:56 PM
http://www.avclub.com/article/game-thrones-superfan-accused-fraud-demands-trial--223551
Post by: mocat on August 12, 2015, 02:07:25 PM
The same rumor mill is speculating that Mads Mikkelsen will play Euron.
:surprised:
Post by: Institutional Control on November 23, 2015, 02:18:25 PM
Post by: Cire on November 23, 2015, 02:24:51 PM
by dragons fire
Post by: Yard Dog on December 04, 2015, 08:16:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDoHaekV_Mg
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on December 04, 2015, 08:31:35 AM
New Season 6 teaser trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDoHaekV_Mg
It's just a bunch of shots from old seasons. :shakesfist:
Post by: Yard Dog on December 04, 2015, 09:43:12 AM
New Season 6 teaser trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDoHaekV_Mg
It's just a bunch of shots from old seasons. :shakesfist:
They know just how to pique our interest without giving anything away. The ultimate recap covering all the key elements.
I did enjoy the pretty cheeky line at the end "They have no idea what is going to happen." I also think that was the "big reveal" because I think that was Bran's voice. It might play along with the theory that Jon is a warg and warged into Ghost just before dying. I think Bran is going to play a huge role in the battle to come. I'm too excited for something that doesn't come out until April!
Post by: Cire on December 04, 2015, 09:47:06 AM
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 04, 2015, 10:08:47 AM
Jon's back for Season 6 in "Jon" form. He's been spotted on set in costume and filming fight scenes.
Post by: Yard Dog on December 04, 2015, 11:06:32 AM
http://www.youtubeslow.com/watch?v=1laFI-2kkio
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on December 04, 2015, 11:12:31 AM
Anyone who wants to watch the teaser in slow motion to catch all the nuances go here:
http://www.youtubeslow.com/watch?v=1laFI-2kkio
I had forgotten that Jojen was dead.
Post by: mocat on December 04, 2015, 11:25:00 AM
Anyone who wants to watch the teaser in slow motion to catch all the nuances go here:
http://www.youtubeslow.com/watch?v=1laFI-2kkio
I had forgotten that Jojen was dead.
he lives eternally in Love Actually
Post by: puniraptor on December 06, 2015, 07:28:47 AM
Spoiler if you don't care to do a Google search...We've been over this :shakesfist:
Jon's back for Season 6 in "Jon" form. He's been spotted on set in costume and filming fight scenes.
Sweaty lipped dark web nerd spoilers = banned
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 06, 2015, 08:02:56 AM
Spoiler if you don't care to do a Google search...We've been over this :shakesfist:
Jon's back for Season 6 in "Jon" form. He's been spotted on set in costume and filming fight scenes.
Sweaty lipped dark web nerd spoilers = banned
I said spoiler and you didn't have to read it. Sorry you have no self control.
Post by: AppleJack on March 08, 2016, 03:29:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuH3tJPiP-U
Post by: TownieCat on March 08, 2016, 03:32:47 PM
:Woohoo:
Post by: Yard Dog on March 08, 2016, 03:34:23 PM
OH.MY.GOD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuH3tJPiP-U
I just came here to post that. I don't think I have ever been more stoked for a TV show than I am after watching that trailer. I am actually starting to think without a book to hold it back that the show might be more impactful and more fitting for a TV audience.
I still don't know what to think about John Snow. He had this to say in an interview with "Time Out London"
Quote
Here is what he had to say
Kit Harington: 'Look, I’m not in the show any more. I’m definitely not in the new series.'
Time Out: 'So you didn’t film any new scenes?'
KH: 'I filmed some scenes of me being dead – [jokily] it’s some of my best work.'
TO: 'Do you know what happens in the series or have you lost your privileges?'
KH: 'I don’t have a clue. I know how long I’m a corpse for, but I can’t tell you that!’
http://www.timeout.com/london/blog/kit-harington-tells-us-jon-snow-will-return-in-game-of-thrones-season-6-030416
Post by: TownieCat on March 08, 2016, 03:40:41 PM
Also, I saw last week that HBO isn't allowing media and critics the opportunity to view episodes in advance this year. The fact that they are keeping such a tight lid on this makes me think it's because of Jon.
Post by: CNS on March 08, 2016, 03:58:04 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 08, 2016, 04:03:57 PM
Post by: Dub on March 08, 2016, 04:40:50 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on March 08, 2016, 08:30:03 PM
chris issac tho :love:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 08, 2016, 09:19:23 PM
Post by: mocat on March 08, 2016, 10:16:22 PM
Post by: CNS on March 09, 2016, 06:18:29 AM
Post by: AppleJack on March 09, 2016, 07:09:18 AM
Bran has potential to steal the whole show. He and Dani, I should say.
Those are the 2 story lines I could do without.
Post by: star seed 7 on March 09, 2016, 07:18:39 AM
Post by: CNS on March 09, 2016, 07:32:49 AM
Post by: AppleJack on March 09, 2016, 08:40:20 AM
Bran will never do anything except suck
I like when he got shoved out of the tower.
Post by: star seed 7 on March 09, 2016, 08:58:17 AM
Post by: Yard Dog on March 09, 2016, 09:06:18 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on March 09, 2016, 09:21:44 AM
Post by: Yard Dog on March 09, 2016, 10:33:23 AM
http://io9.gizmodo.com/all-the-secrets-hidden-in-game-of-thrones-brand-new-tra-1763642181
Post by: OK_Cat on March 09, 2016, 10:41:51 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on March 09, 2016, 10:55:26 AM
Trailer breakdown for anyone interested:
http://io9.gizmodo.com/all-the-secrets-hidden-in-game-of-thrones-brand-new-tra-1763642181
i've got a boner
Post by: CNS on March 09, 2016, 11:14:55 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on March 22, 2016, 08:07:10 PM
Trailer breakdown for anyone interested:
http://io9.gizmodo.com/all-the-secrets-hidden-in-game-of-thrones-brand-new-tra-1763642181
i've got a boner
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZ8OsKo7.jpg&hash=dc2d8fab8af6e3369896c2e9c7653ea6a61a30dd)
Post by: Canary on March 22, 2016, 08:25:21 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on March 22, 2016, 09:58:07 PM
Trailer breakdown for anyone interested:
http://io9.gizmodo.com/all-the-secrets-hidden-in-game-of-thrones-brand-new-tra-1763642181
i've got a boner
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZ8OsKo7.jpg&hash=dc2d8fab8af6e3369896c2e9c7653ea6a61a30dd)
Hafthor is rough ridin' adorable.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 11, 2016, 12:45:17 PM
Should I recognize this woman?
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Post by: OK_Cat on April 11, 2016, 12:57:55 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 11, 2016, 12:58:02 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 11, 2016, 12:58:31 PM
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/04/11/game-thrones-third-trailer?fkf
Should I recognize this woman?
Could it be a flashback scene with Lyanna Stark?
Post by: star seed 7 on April 11, 2016, 01:04:54 PM
Post by: AppleJack on April 11, 2016, 01:30:58 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 11, 2016, 01:48:02 PM
Nevermind, that actress is in mereen, new red priestess. Next scene shows her walking away from tryion/varys
Yeah, it looks like she was having a conversation with Varys.
Post by: ShellShock on April 11, 2016, 01:56:06 PM
Post by: Canary on April 12, 2016, 11:45:35 AM
Post by: The Whale on April 12, 2016, 02:45:26 PM
Holding out hope the one, true heir, Stannis Baratheon, is still out there somewhere.
I'd bet he's alive in the first episode.
Post by: AppleJack on April 15, 2016, 02:32:27 PM
Post by: The Big Train on April 15, 2016, 02:33:06 PM
Post by: AppleJack on April 20, 2016, 01:12:14 PM
I've decided to root for Roose Bolton for the foreseeable future. He just has IT.
Roose Bolton, everyone. Roose f'ing Bolton.
Post by: CNS on April 20, 2016, 05:50:30 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on April 20, 2016, 05:57:20 PM
Post by: Tobias on April 20, 2016, 06:55:31 PM
Doesn't hold a candle to the hateability of skylar white
i started rewatching BB last night and already wanted her to die by the birthday squeezer scene in the pilot
Post by: mocat on April 21, 2016, 07:01:51 AM
Post by: Yard Dog on April 21, 2016, 08:59:00 AM
Jon Snow's Return & Why It's Not Melisandre Who Brings Him Back:
https://youtu.be/sBwwyRGziLE
Why Tyrion Is Likely A Targaryen:
https://youtu.be/UZ4anyro9y4
Post by: CNS on April 21, 2016, 11:29:25 AM
Ramsay could spend all day torturing arya, stringer bell, and kim wexler, and then if he went home to skylar i would feel bad for him
Very much so part of why BB worked. Walt could be a monster and you could easily discount it because of what he put up with.
Post by: AppleJack on April 22, 2016, 12:17:14 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 22, 2016, 12:18:20 PM
Post by: AppleJack on April 22, 2016, 12:20:14 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 22, 2016, 12:20:45 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 23, 2016, 06:38:06 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 23, 2016, 06:39:41 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 23, 2016, 06:41:37 PM
Post by: TownieCat on April 24, 2016, 01:22:44 PM
Fun videos to kill time:The Tyrion theory is fascinating. First time I'd heard that one.
Jon Snow's Return & Why It's Not Melisandre Who Brings Him Back:
https://youtu.be/sBwwyRGziLE
Why Tyrion Is Likely A Targaryen:
https://youtu.be/UZ4anyro9y4
My guess is we won't see Jon alive for a few episodes.
Post by: OK_Cat on April 24, 2016, 09:30:52 PM
Post by: TownieCat on April 24, 2016, 09:32:55 PM
Seriously tho... She has to be like 200 years old, right?
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 24, 2016, 11:05:43 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 25, 2016, 08:31:33 AM
I can't shake the image of naked old Melisandre :Yuck:
Seriously tho... She has to be like 200 years old, right?
I read somewhere that they hinted at somewhere near 400 years old in an interview once.
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2016, 08:35:01 AM
The creators said it immediately after the show.I can't shake the image of naked old Melisandre :Yuck:
Seriously tho... She has to be like 200 years old, right?
I read somewhere that they hinted at somewhere near 400 years old in an interview once.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 25, 2016, 08:54:46 AM
Has the Seven-faced-God actually done anything to prove their existence? Or the Old Gods?
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 25, 2016, 09:00:16 AM
Post by: AppleJack on April 25, 2016, 09:08:17 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 25, 2016, 09:21:17 AM
I'm trying to figure out why revealing Mel's age is significant. Maybe it is foreshadowing that her resurrection of Jon Snow is going to require so much power that it will kill her, and she knows it.
It is not shocking to me that she is really old - she's basically a witch so faking her own "youngness" isn't a surprise. The fact that her body actually looks that old is a little jarring.
Right now she is questioning her whole belief system - the Lord of Light didn't save Stannis even after she sacrificed Shireen. Which, BTW, the killing of one little girl is less significant to her because she is so old and has seen lots of people of all ages die in her lifetime.
Post by: mocat on April 26, 2016, 09:20:59 AM
George is such a MF'er
Post by: mocat on April 26, 2016, 09:21:53 AM
oh great, more of the sand snakes. :don'tcare:
can you believe they already killed Areo? the F was that about :frown:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 26, 2016, 09:28:30 AM
I can't shake the image of naked old Melisandre :Yuck:Would do, before she goes to bed! :fatty:
Seriously tho... She has to be like 200 years old, right?
Post by: star seed 7 on April 26, 2016, 09:31:30 AM
oh great, more of the sand snakes. :don'tcare:
can you believe they already killed Areo? the F was that about :frown:
Meh
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 26, 2016, 09:34:52 AM
how the F did she give birth to that black ghost thing that killed actual good king candidate Renly, and yet she can't do anything else?
George is such a MF'er
She picked the wrong guy. Stannis is not Azor Ahai.
Post by: ShellShock on April 26, 2016, 10:45:15 AM
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2016, 11:55:31 AM
Post by: asava on April 26, 2016, 12:16:46 PM
Fun videos to kill time:The Tyrion theory is fascinating. First time I'd heard that one.
Jon Snow's Return & Why It's Not Melisandre Who Brings Him Back:
https://youtu.be/sBwwyRGziLE
Why Tyrion Is Likely A Targaryen:
https://youtu.be/UZ4anyro9y4
My guess is we won't see Jon alive for a few episodes.
These were great.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 26, 2016, 12:34:38 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2016, 03:28:22 PM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jennaguillaume/i-mean-i-guess-i-kinda-see-it-if-i-squint#.gypporWrD (http://www.buzzfeed.com/jennaguillaume/i-mean-i-guess-i-kinda-see-it-if-i-squint#.gypporWrD)
good grief
Post by: TownieCat on May 01, 2016, 09:06:40 PM
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Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 01, 2016, 10:07:37 PM
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Post by: OK_Cat on May 01, 2016, 10:23:36 PM
Post by: treysolid on May 01, 2016, 10:27:13 PM
Everybody is forgetting that Hodor is backdon't you mean willis?
Post by: ShellShock on May 02, 2016, 07:51:03 AM
Everybody is forgetting that Hodor is backdon't you mean willis?
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Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 02, 2016, 08:36:47 AM
Post by: AppleJack on May 02, 2016, 08:48:47 AM
I've decided to root for Roose Bolton for the foreseeable future. He just has IT.
:blank:
Post by: star seed 7 on May 02, 2016, 08:55:57 AM
Post by: AppleJack on May 02, 2016, 09:01:30 AM
Cheer up aj, you still have ramsey
Yeah. Talk about showing some initiative, really refreshing. Some might disagree with the process, but he gets results.
Post by: TownieCat on May 02, 2016, 09:12:26 AM
My best guess is she will assassinate either Ramsay or The Warrior Formerly Known As The Mountain (or both).
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 02, 2016, 09:17:12 AM
The Arya storyline is the only intriguing part of S6 so far. Everything else is just puzzle pieces falling into place, but I have no idea what she's being set up to do.
My best guess is she will assassinate either Ramsay or The Warrior Formerly Known As The Mountain (or both).
Ramsay is going to head north and die by Jon Snow's undead hand.
Post by: TownieCat on May 02, 2016, 10:24:42 AM
Post by: Cire on May 02, 2016, 10:26:19 AM
Post by: asava on May 02, 2016, 12:30:37 PM
The Arya storyline is the only intriguing part of S6 so far. Everything else is just puzzle pieces falling into place, but I have no idea what she's being set up to do.
My best guess is she will assassinate either Ramsay or The Warrior Formerly Known As The Mountain (or both).
Not really sure how you can be sure what the hell role Bran will be set to do and what impact he may have on Westeros. He's obviously the most powerful Stark still alive and I doubt he will only serve to give us flashbacks.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 02, 2016, 12:32:11 PM
The Arya storyline is the only intriguing part of S6 so far. Everything else is just puzzle pieces falling into place, but I have no idea what she's being set up to do.
My best guess is she will assassinate either Ramsay or The Warrior Formerly Known As The Mountain (or both).
Not really sure how you can be sure what the hell role Bran will be set to do and what impact he may have on Westeros. He's obviously the most powerful Stark still alive and I doubt he will only serve to give us flashbacks.
Well one of them did just come back to life....
Post by: asava on May 02, 2016, 12:43:57 PM
The Arya storyline is the only intriguing part of S6 so far. Everything else is just puzzle pieces falling into place, but I have no idea what she's being set up to do.
My best guess is she will assassinate either Ramsay or The Warrior Formerly Known As The Mountain (or both).
Not really sure how you can be sure what the hell role Bran will be set to do and what impact he may have on Westeros. He's obviously the most powerful Stark still alive and I doubt he will only serve to give us flashbacks.
Well one of them did just come back to life....
Presumably due to the Red God, not because of his own power. Outside of brooding looks and being entirely too sensitive and nice to Sam, what "power" can you really attribute to Jon Snow. Obvz he could be a dragon rider/targaryan/savior of westeros, but at present, Bran is just warging with little giants, time traveling, and, presumably, watching the entire world.
Post by: catastrophe on May 02, 2016, 01:23:29 PM
Does anyone think the hound will be back?
Post by: Cire on May 02, 2016, 01:31:19 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 02, 2016, 01:39:38 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 02, 2016, 01:44:46 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 02, 2016, 02:09:40 PM
The hound is dead
The mountain's dead, too.
Post by: Dub on May 02, 2016, 02:15:54 PM
The hound is dead
Presumably dead.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 02, 2016, 02:19:41 PM
Post by: AppleJack on May 02, 2016, 02:19:56 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 02, 2016, 02:20:41 PM
Post by: asava on May 02, 2016, 02:25:58 PM
Post by: mocat on May 02, 2016, 03:13:02 PM
Post by: asava on May 02, 2016, 03:18:36 PM
why would they not show stannis actually dying?
I thought the same thing, but there is just no way Brienne wouldn't kill him.
Post by: TownieCat on May 02, 2016, 03:53:01 PM
With the shake ups to the Greyjoys and Bolton last night, now every family has lost their family leader since the series began except the Tyrells. Lady Olenna just keeps on ticking!
Post by: HerrSonntag on May 02, 2016, 04:03:40 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 02, 2016, 04:10:29 PM
Post by: TownieCat on May 02, 2016, 04:26:34 PM
I guess. But he hasn't been seen since season 3.Why on earth would anyone want known loser Stannis Baratheon back the picture?
With the shake ups to the Greyjoys and Bolton last night, now every family has lost their family leader since the series began except the Tyrells. Lady Olenna just keeps on ticking!
Frey still ticking?
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 02, 2016, 04:30:38 PM
Post by: asava on May 02, 2016, 04:45:36 PM
I guess. But he hasn't been seen since season 3.Why on earth would anyone want known loser Stannis Baratheon back the picture?
With the shake ups to the Greyjoys and Bolton last night, now every family has lost their family leader since the series began except the Tyrells. Lady Olenna just keeps on ticking!
Frey still ticking?
Frey is gonna probably do something pretty soon considering Ramsey killed his grandson.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 02, 2016, 04:47:02 PM
The Arya storyline is the only intriguing part of S6 so far. Everything else is just puzzle pieces falling into place, but I have no idea what she's being set up to do.
My best guess is she will assassinate either Ramsay or The Warrior Formerly Known As The Mountain (or both).
Not really sure how you can be sure what the hell role Bran will be set to do and what impact he may have on Westeros. He's obviously the most powerful Stark still alive and I doubt he will only serve to give us flashbacks.
Well one of them did just come back to life....
Presumably due to the Red God, not because of his own power. Outside of brooding looks and being entirely too sensitive and nice to Sam, what "power" can you really attribute to Jon Snow. Obvz he could be a dragon rider/targaryan/savior of westeros, but at present, Bran is just warging with little giants, time traveling, and, presumably, watching the entire world.
I think Jon has warging abilities also. He might have been inside of Ghost this whole time.
Post by: asava on May 02, 2016, 04:51:27 PM
The Arya storyline is the only intriguing part of S6 so far. Everything else is just puzzle pieces falling into place, but I have no idea what she's being set up to do.
My best guess is she will assassinate either Ramsay or The Warrior Formerly Known As The Mountain (or both).
Not really sure how you can be sure what the hell role Bran will be set to do and what impact he may have on Westeros. He's obviously the most powerful Stark still alive and I doubt he will only serve to give us flashbacks.
Well one of them did just come back to life....
Presumably due to the Red God, not because of his own power. Outside of brooding looks and being entirely too sensitive and nice to Sam, what "power" can you really attribute to Jon Snow. Obvz he could be a dragon rider/targaryan/savior of westeros, but at present, Bran is just warging with little giants, time traveling, and, presumably, watching the entire world.
I think Jon has warging abilities also. He might have been inside of Ghost this whole time.
huh?
Post by: mocat on May 02, 2016, 05:02:50 PM
The Arya storyline is the only intriguing part of S6 so far. Everything else is just puzzle pieces falling into place, but I have no idea what she's being set up to do.
My best guess is she will assassinate either Ramsay or The Warrior Formerly Known As The Mountain (or both).
Not really sure how you can be sure what the hell role Bran will be set to do and what impact he may have on Westeros. He's obviously the most powerful Stark still alive and I doubt he will only serve to give us flashbacks.
Well one of them did just come back to life....
Presumably due to the Red God, not because of his own power. Outside of brooding looks and being entirely too sensitive and nice to Sam, what "power" can you really attribute to Jon Snow. Obvz he could be a dragon rider/targaryan/savior of westeros, but at present, Bran is just warging with little giants, time traveling, and, presumably, watching the entire world.
I think Jon has warging abilities also. He might have been inside of Ghost this whole time.
yes
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 02, 2016, 05:05:19 PM
The Arya storyline is the only intriguing part of S6 so far. Everything else is just puzzle pieces falling into place, but I have no idea what she's being set up to do.
My best guess is she will assassinate either Ramsay or The Warrior Formerly Known As The Mountain (or both).
Not really sure how you can be sure what the hell role Bran will be set to do and what impact he may have on Westeros. He's obviously the most powerful Stark still alive and I doubt he will only serve to give us flashbacks.
Well one of them did just come back to life....
Presumably due to the Red God, not because of his own power. Outside of brooding looks and being entirely too sensitive and nice to Sam, what "power" can you really attribute to Jon Snow. Obvz he could be a dragon rider/targaryan/savior of westeros, but at present, Bran is just warging with little giants, time traveling, and, presumably, watching the entire world.
I think Jon has warging abilities also. He might have been inside of Ghost this whole time.
huh?
Which of those easily understood sentences is confusing?
Post by: asava on May 02, 2016, 05:06:41 PM
The Arya storyline is the only intriguing part of S6 so far. Everything else is just puzzle pieces falling into place, but I have no idea what she's being set up to do.
My best guess is she will assassinate either Ramsay or The Warrior Formerly Known As The Mountain (or both).
Not really sure how you can be sure what the hell role Bran will be set to do and what impact he may have on Westeros. He's obviously the most powerful Stark still alive and I doubt he will only serve to give us flashbacks.
Well one of them did just come back to life....
Presumably due to the Red God, not because of his own power. Outside of brooding looks and being entirely too sensitive and nice to Sam, what "power" can you really attribute to Jon Snow. Obvz he could be a dragon rider/targaryan/savior of westeros, but at present, Bran is just warging with little giants, time traveling, and, presumably, watching the entire world.
I think Jon has warging abilities also. He might have been inside of Ghost this whole time.
huh?
Which of those easily understood sentences is confusing?
The one which relies on zero evidence.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 02, 2016, 05:07:43 PM
The Arya storyline is the only intriguing part of S6 so far. Everything else is just puzzle pieces falling into place, but I have no idea what she's being set up to do.
My best guess is she will assassinate either Ramsay or The Warrior Formerly Known As The Mountain (or both).
Not really sure how you can be sure what the hell role Bran will be set to do and what impact he may have on Westeros. He's obviously the most powerful Stark still alive and I doubt he will only serve to give us flashbacks.
Well one of them did just come back to life....
Presumably due to the Red God, not because of his own power. Outside of brooding looks and being entirely too sensitive and nice to Sam, what "power" can you really attribute to Jon Snow. Obvz he could be a dragon rider/targaryan/savior of westeros, but at present, Bran is just warging with little giants, time traveling, and, presumably, watching the entire world.
I think Jon has warging abilities also. He might have been inside of Ghost this whole time.
He has them in the books, but he doesn't have them on the show.
Post by: asava on May 02, 2016, 05:08:52 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 02, 2016, 05:10:03 PM
This has nothing to do with the books at this point.
Post by: asava on May 02, 2016, 05:15:42 PM
Says who? Just cause you haven't seen proof of it yet doesn't mean it didn't happen.
This has nothing to do with the books at this point.
JS hasn't once warged with Ghost in the show. His eyes didn't glaze over like Orell's did when he died. And, unlike in the books, he didn't say "Ghost" as he was dying.
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Not saying it couldn't have happened, it would just be very odd for the show to all of a sudden spring that on the viewers without the least bit of hint. The show has been extremely good at foreshadowing and leaving clues.
Post by: catastrophe on May 02, 2016, 05:44:30 PM
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Post by: TownieCat on May 02, 2016, 09:41:10 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 02, 2016, 09:47:30 PM
This season is supposedly the best for Jon Snow yet so some important stuff is going to happen with him. After we learn about his parentage in those flashback scenes that are going to happen next week, he is going to need to start honing his warging powers so he will eventually be able to warg into a dragon.
Post by: TownieCat on May 02, 2016, 09:54:40 PM
Post by: sys on May 02, 2016, 09:56:49 PM
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Post by: Cire on May 02, 2016, 10:01:41 PM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 02, 2016, 10:01:54 PM
Post by: TownieCat on May 02, 2016, 10:03:31 PM
Maybe she just healed his body so then he was able to go back in there.Yes, that sponge really did some work.
Post by: sys on May 02, 2016, 10:03:48 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 02, 2016, 10:04:38 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 02, 2016, 10:05:23 PM
Maybe she just healed his body so then he was able to go back in there.Yes, that sponge really did some work.
No she really did use magic to heal the body.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 02, 2016, 10:18:40 PM
Regardless, Snow is back and ready to kick some ass. I cannot wait until next epi when he comes sauntering up to the traitors' ice cells... :lol:
Enjoyed the Ned flashback.
So we're doing the iron islands thing? Meh. Ok, but meh.
Did not miss Dany. Not one bit.
Ramsay is such a cold hearted eff. He just keeps upping his game. Killing babies is just the worst part of this show.
Lannisters are kinda meh right now and I expect they'll remain that way for a while.
Post by: sys on May 02, 2016, 10:23:47 PM
Killing babies is just the worst part of this show.
:)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 02, 2016, 10:24:24 PM
Post by: TownieCat on May 02, 2016, 10:25:18 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 02, 2016, 10:31:36 PM
Are you trying to tell me that MR is Jon's twin sister just because she has a long horse face like Lyanna?
i assume that's who he's talking about
also the hound is dead
also book people need to go back to their hole with their book theories
Post by: star seed 7 on May 02, 2016, 10:33:38 PM
Killing babies is just the worst part of this show.
:)
:lol:
Post by: star seed 7 on May 02, 2016, 10:43:50 PM
Post by: wetwillie on May 02, 2016, 10:48:04 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 02, 2016, 10:49:44 PM
i see ksuw being a huge bad person isn't limited to just politics
I thought this thread was fair game for book stuff now that we're caught up with the books? Eh - ok I deleted my last post.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 02, 2016, 10:50:43 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 02, 2016, 10:54:13 PM
talking about events that haven't even been mentioned in the show doesn't really seem like fair game to me. let people be surprised by something
Ok. I'll go ahead and edit my other one too. Sorry non-book people.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 02, 2016, 10:57:27 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 02, 2016, 11:34:17 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 02, 2016, 11:54:18 PM
Post by: michigancat on May 03, 2016, 01:03:19 AM
Post by: TownieCat on May 03, 2016, 12:02:42 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 03, 2016, 12:15:03 PM
Anyone else think that Sansa is preggers?
Yes, I've been wondering if this could be a possibility. There were some pics floating around of her stomach looking a little pouchy, but it could have just been her hands inside her cloak.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 03, 2016, 12:18:32 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 03, 2016, 12:21:34 PM
What is Rickon Stark doing these days?
Probably find out next week (srsly)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 03, 2016, 12:23:35 PM
What is Rickon Stark doing these days?
Also, Shaggy Dog!
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 03, 2016, 12:25:07 PM
Post by: mocat on May 03, 2016, 12:27:15 PM
Post by: michigancat on May 03, 2016, 12:52:25 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 03, 2016, 01:24:41 PM
Also, you people saying "If Jon was in Ghost why did he just lay there?" What did you expect him to do while in a direwolf to get people to figure out it was him?
Pretty much anything besides laying there. I mean, if Jon was really in there then I would never want him as my charades teammate.
Post by: Gooch on May 03, 2016, 01:24:59 PM
This was exactly what I said to Mrs. Gooch who instantly gave me a :dubious:. The guy just gets crap done.Cheer up aj, you still have ramsey
Yeah. Talk about showing some initiative, really refreshing. Some might disagree with the process, but he gets results.
Post by: Gooch on May 03, 2016, 01:28:17 PM
The dire wolves have always had a 6th sense when it comes to their respective Stark owners. Ghost was sad because his companion was not waking up. Once life came back into Jon's body Ghost sensed it and perked up.This
Post by: AppleJack on May 03, 2016, 01:32:18 PM
This was exactly what I said to Mrs. Gooch who instantly gave me a :dubious:. The guy just gets crap done.Cheer up aj, you still have ramsey
Yeah. Talk about showing some initiative, really refreshing. Some might disagree with the process, but he gets results.
Yep. While everyone else is playing pattycake and having snow ball fights Ramsay is hyper-focused on the task at hand. Unifying the North (and Westeros?).
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 03, 2016, 01:36:15 PM
The dire wolves have always had a 6th sense when it comes to their respective Stark owners. Ghost was sad because his companion was not waking up. Once life came back into Jon's body Ghost sensed it and perked up.This
That's the simplest explanation. But the camera kept doing this really obvious back and forth bw sleeping Ghost and dead Jon. And by the way - Ghost is just sleeping while red Lady is putting her hands all over Jon? That doesn't add up.
Post by: Gooch on May 03, 2016, 01:38:51 PM
Post by: asava on May 03, 2016, 03:13:24 PM
Surprised they didn't wait another full episode to bring Jon back. :zzz:
I was actually kind of hoping they would. There was a theory out there that Jon would actually be resurrected by fire itself--and furthering the other theory that he is a targaryan, and possibly the other theory that Snow is the incarnation of Azor Ahai, creating the flaming sword Lightbringer--rather than by the red woman. Would have been great if after all that the ep ended and it started with Jon Snow being burned on a pyre and coming to life, unburnt. ANYWHO, loooks like that is out.
Mrs. Gooch, you are super into warging. Weird considering it has played a very small role so far in the show. My bet is that JS does not warg with a dragon, but rides it, next to Daenerys and Tyrion, just like Aegon and his two sisters.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 03, 2016, 03:58:30 PM
Mrs. Gooch, you are super into warging.
Yes because warging is super cool. There should be more of it in the show. It is the only thing keeping Bran from being a total snoozefest (but he is going to be important in the future).
My bet is that JS does not warg with a dragon, but rides it, next to Daenerys and Tyrion, just like Aegon and his two sisters.
Also a strong possibility but I think warging a couple of times to get the dragons in the habit of accommodating a rider could really help the process.
Post by: mocat on May 03, 2016, 04:02:41 PM
Mrs. Gooch, you are super into warging.
Yes because warging is super cool. There should be more of it in the show. It is the only thing keeping Bran from being a total snoozefest (but he is going to be important in the future).My bet is that JS does not warg with a dragon, but rides it, next to Daenerys and Tyrion, just like Aegon and his two sisters.
Also a strong possibility but I think warging a couple of times to get the dragons in the habit of accommodating a rider could really help the process.
if you're trying to get your dragon in the mood for a rough ridin' rough ride, a little wargplay goes a long way
Post by: michigancat on May 03, 2016, 04:04:46 PM
Post by: asava on May 03, 2016, 04:06:16 PM
if you're trying to get your dragon in the mood for a rough ridin' rough ride, a little wargplay goes a long way
v. true.
My bet is that JS does not warg with a dragon, but rides it, next to Daenerys and Tyrion, just like Aegon and his two sisters.
Also a strong possibility but I think warging a couple of times to get the dragons in the habit of accommodating a rider could really help the process.
Possible. May also find out what the horn that Sam found north of the wall does...
Post by: mocat on May 03, 2016, 04:22:49 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on May 03, 2016, 04:25:28 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 03, 2016, 05:28:44 PM
if you warged into someone's wife, would you apologize to the husband?
Sexist
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 09:45:36 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 04, 2016, 10:03:22 AM
I love this show and I caught up on it last summer, but I have no clue how you guys keep up with character names. Maybe my brain is small. There's so much going on, i'm always like: "Oh man, i've seen that guy before. Why is her murdering Jon Snow?!" :confused:
It is a little easier when you've read the books (although that gets confusing because there are characters in the books who are not in the show and vice versa, and also some of the characters' names have been change from the book to the show). Also, maybe easier when you have time between episodes to kind of soak it it, rather than binging?
Also, that guy was Alliser Thorne (who really has never liked Jon Snow and is jealous of him becoming LC) or maybe you are talking about Ollie (the little kid whose parents were murdered by Wildlings and therefore he is mad at JS for allying with the Wildlings).
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 10:06:10 AM
Who the eff is that guy who made the girl blind? He's a rough ridin' dick!
Post by: star seed 7 on May 04, 2016, 10:09:03 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 10:10:57 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 04, 2016, 10:13:10 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 10:13:58 AM
Yup, a wizardGot it! :nerd:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 10:18:06 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 04, 2016, 10:21:45 AM
:runaway:
Who the eff is that guy who made the girl blind? He's a rough ridin' dick!
Nobody
Post by: asava on May 04, 2016, 10:26:40 AM
:runaway:
Who the eff is that guy who made the girl blind? He's a rough ridin' dick!
Nobody
A man does not have a name.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 04, 2016, 10:30:47 AM
Post by: asava on May 04, 2016, 10:33:15 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 10:33:15 AM
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+
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/upcWBut9mrI/maxresdefault.jpg)
Oh man, maybe!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 10:36:19 AM
Post by: TownieCat on May 04, 2016, 10:42:02 AM
Does anyone think that the Waif is actually Syrio Forel?
I had no idea that was her name and kinda forgot about that guy....BUT MAYBE! :bwpopcorn:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 04, 2016, 10:43:38 AM
Does anyone think that the Waif is actually Syrio Forel?
I had no idea that was her name and kinda forgot about that guy....BUT MAYBE! :bwpopcorn:
A waif is a homeless person. It's not her name. A girl has no name.
Post by: TownieCat on May 04, 2016, 10:47:15 AM
Does anyone think that the Waif is actually Syrio Forel?
I had no idea that was her name and kinda forgot about that guy....BUT MAYBE! :bwpopcorn:
A waif is a homeless person. It's not her name. A girl has no name.
:thumbs:
Touche. I mean the character's name.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 11:02:23 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 04, 2016, 11:06:00 AM
Also, the dude who never speaks, who was fat as a kid and spoke, I barely ever remember him being around. I think it's because he doesn't speak.
OK, you are just trolling now.
Post by: mocat on May 04, 2016, 11:08:30 AM
Post by: Tobias on May 04, 2016, 11:10:10 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 11:11:07 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 11:12:27 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldmag.com%2Fmedia%2Fimages%2Fcontent%2Fscouts.jpg&hash=77c3ae82f422f9c12d68bdefae2f4afd624c87d2)Also, the dude who never speaks, who was fat as a kid and spoke, I barely ever remember him being around. I think it's because he doesn't speak.
OK, you are just trolling now.
Confirmed. Small brain.
Post by: asava on May 04, 2016, 11:13:06 AM
Post by: OK_Cat on May 04, 2016, 11:20:11 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 11:26:25 AM
Post by: OK_Cat on May 04, 2016, 11:29:51 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 11:32:10 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 04, 2016, 11:34:25 AM
But still, wtf
Post by: OK_Cat on May 04, 2016, 11:34:25 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 04, 2016, 11:37:05 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 04, 2016, 11:37:53 AM
You can't watch a show like GoT while doing something else. That's absurd.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 04, 2016, 11:38:46 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 04, 2016, 11:39:37 AM
PED's help me to stay focused
I think that would make me super focused on the wrong things and miss a bunch of stuff.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 04, 2016, 11:42:17 AM
PED's help me to stay focused
I think that would make me super focused on the wrong things and miss a bunch of stuff.
Naw man, naw
Post by: asava on May 04, 2016, 01:03:29 PM
PED's help me to stay focused
I think that would make me super focused on the wrong things and miss a bunch of stuff.
Naw man, naw
Just have to find the RIGHT PEDs.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 04, 2016, 03:06:51 PM
Quote from: Kit Harington
We cut it much shorter for this season, and do a different hairstyle this season and put it up in a bun.
WTF!
Post by: Yard Dog on May 04, 2016, 03:20:22 PM
Apparently Kit Harington really did cut his hair, even though it wasn't noticeable.Quote from: Kit HaringtonWe cut it much shorter for this season, and do a different hairstyle this season and put it up in a bun.
WTF!
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 04, 2016, 07:10:35 PM
Post by: TownieCat on May 04, 2016, 08:11:04 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on May 04, 2016, 08:34:03 PM
There is an interesting theory out there that Hodor is actual a warg. He was warging with a horse, but something went wrong and now the horse's mind is trapped in Wylis's body. Hodor is the name of the horse, so keep an ear open for horse names in the flashbacks. (Maybe Lyanna's horse.)
Great theory, fanning.
Post by: AppleJack on May 05, 2016, 10:03:24 AM
There is an interesting theory out there that Hodor is actual a warg. He was warging with a horse, but something went wrong and now the horse's mind is trapped in Wylis's body. Hodor is the name of the horse, so keep an ear open for horse names in the flashbacks. (Maybe Lyanna's horse.)
If this happens I might have to stop watching.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2016, 10:10:32 AM
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Post by: Gooch on May 05, 2016, 10:12:12 AM
So is this guy an alien or what?Nope just a dork Sporting KC fan.
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2016, 10:18:32 AM
https://www.facebook.com/entertainmentdailyfix/videos/1100783419941895/
Post by: star seed 7 on May 05, 2016, 10:24:08 AM
So is this guy an alien or what?Nope just a dork Sporting KC fan.
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So true :lol:
Post by: treysolid on May 05, 2016, 10:27:09 AM
There is an interesting theory out there that Hodor is actual a warg. He was warging with a horse, but something went wrong and now the horse's mind is trapped in Wylis's body. Hodor is the name of the horse, so keep an ear open for horse names in the flashbacks. (Maybe Lyanna's horse.)
Pretty sure that's not how warging works. That would make so much more sense if the horse was a warg.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2016, 10:28:37 AM
There is an interesting theory out there that Hodor is actual a warg. He was warging with a horse, but something went wrong and now the horse's mind is trapped in Wylis's body. Hodor is the name of the horse, so keep an ear open for horse names in the flashbacks. (Maybe Lyanna's horse.)
Pretty sure that's not how warging works. That would make so much more sense if the horse was a warg.
Well maybe the horse was a warg too. What happens to the animal's mind when a warg takes over? I am not sure. Is the animal conscious of the person taking over their body or are they just "asleep"?
Post by: Gooch on May 05, 2016, 10:30:03 AM
Go ask Ghost.There is an interesting theory out there that Hodor is actual a warg. He was warging with a horse, but something went wrong and now the horse's mind is trapped in Wylis's body. Hodor is the name of the horse, so keep an ear open for horse names in the flashbacks. (Maybe Lyanna's horse.)
Pretty sure that's not how warging works. That would make so much more sense if the horse was a warg.
Well maybe the horse was a warg too. What happens to the animal's mind when a warg takes over? I am not sure. Is the animal conscious of the person taking over their body or are they just "asleep"?
Post by: star seed 7 on May 05, 2016, 10:30:30 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 05, 2016, 10:32:39 AM
So is this guy an alien or what?Don't even get me started on this guy!
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Post by: TownieCat on May 05, 2016, 10:36:37 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2016, 10:37:16 AM
It was so shocking that it caused Wylis to stop talking (except the word "Hodor" of course). Perhaps he was traumatized so much because he didn't know how to fight (because Old Nan wouldn't let him learn).
It caused Benjen to join the Night's Watch and became a ranger, either because it was so terrible that he wanted to try to help stop it or because he actually met the Night's Queen and joined the rangers to try to find her again........and in fact he did find her and she turned him into Cold Hands.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 05, 2016, 10:42:43 AM
I bet it was this rough ridin' thing that mumped up Hodor!So is this guy an alien or what?Don't even get me started on this guy!
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 05, 2016, 10:45:49 AM
OK, there's another theory about Hodor. When they were kids, Wylis & Benjen went north of the wall and saw something shocking/horrifying.
It was so shocking that it caused Wylis to stop talking (except the word "Hodor" of course). Perhaps he was traumatized so much because he didn't know how to fight (because Old Nan wouldn't let him learn).
It caused Benjen to join the Night's Watch and became a ranger, either because it was so terrible that he wanted to try to help stop it or because he actually met the Night's Queen and joined the rangers to try to find her again........and in fact he did find her and she turned him into Cold Hands.
Hodor probably met his real parents (giants, obvs) and then witnessed them having sex.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2016, 10:59:17 AM
Warging is stupid. Having Warging be super common is even stupider
There are up to 4 people in all of Westeros and Essos that might be wargs. 2 of them were born like 50 years ago and 2 of them were born within the last 20 years. So, not that common.
Post by: mocat on May 05, 2016, 11:11:30 AM
Post by: asava on May 05, 2016, 11:29:40 AM
So is this guy an alien or what?
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I remember something about this guy actually being a member of the Knights Watch some like 1000 years ago and he's been biding his time after a huge battle. IDK but it is probably awesome and crap is gonna get real. I think he ate a bad sandwich or something and left the wall. Also a girl was involved or something.
Post by: mocat on May 05, 2016, 11:56:02 AM
Post by: CNS on May 05, 2016, 12:00:01 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2016, 12:22:52 PM
Some people think he was a Stark. (Others don't.) Some people think that there isn't really just one Night's King, but that the Night's Queen chooses a new Night's King every once in a while....and some people think she chose Benjen Stark....and some people think she's about to choose Jon Snow.
Post by: mocat on May 05, 2016, 12:31:02 PM
Some people think he was a Stark. (Others don't.) Some people think that there isn't really just one Night's King, but that the Night's Queen chooses a new Night's King every once in a while....and some people think she chose Benjen Stark....and some people think she's about to choose Jon Snow.
you mean some people in westeros or some people on planet earth?
Post by: AppleJack on May 05, 2016, 12:32:09 PM
Post by: mocat on May 05, 2016, 12:33:20 PM
Post by: asava on May 05, 2016, 12:41:00 PM
He is the Night's King. He was a LC of the Night's Watch 1000 years ago (or so). He went North and met a white walker woman (Night's Queen) and she turned him into that thing. Then he went back to the Wall to rule as the Night's King for a while until he was ousted.
Some people think he was a Stark. (Others don't.) Some people think that there isn't really just one Night's King, but that the Night's Queen chooses a new Night's King every once in a while....and some people think she chose Benjen Stark....and some people think she's about to choose Jon Snow.
A surprising lack of warging in your discussion. Was like 90% sure you were gonna say he was a warg who accidentally went into an icicle.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2016, 01:43:19 PM
Some people think he was a Stark. (Others don't.) Some people think that there isn't really just one Night's King, but that the Night's Queen chooses a new Night's King every once in a while....and some people think she chose Benjen Stark....and some people think she's about to choose Jon Snow.
you mean some people in westeros or some people on planet earth?
Some people in Westeros (and on Earth) think he was a Stark. Some people on Earth think there have been more than one Night's King.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2016, 01:44:34 PM
He is the Night's King. He was a LC of the Night's Watch 1000 years ago (or so). He went North and met a white walker woman (Night's Queen) and she turned him into that thing. Then he went back to the Wall to rule as the Night's King for a while until he was ousted.
Some people think he was a Stark. (Others don't.) Some people think that there isn't really just one Night's King, but that the Night's Queen chooses a new Night's King every once in a while....and some people think she chose Benjen Stark....and some people think she's about to choose Jon Snow.
A surprising lack of warging in your discussion. Was like 90% sure you were gonna say he was a warg who accidentally went into an icicle.
OMG, what would happen if a warg warged into a dead white walker horse?
Post by: star seed 7 on May 05, 2016, 02:00:54 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2016, 02:13:57 PM
Ladygooch failed to mention that wyllis + hodor =~ white horse
And Lyanna's horse is white. So I'm pretty sure that Wylis warged into her horse because he wanted attention from her.
Post by: TownieCat on May 05, 2016, 02:14:17 PM
He is the Night's King. He was a LC of the Night's Watch 1000 years ago (or so). He went North and met a white walker woman (Night's Queen) and she turned him into that thing. Then he went back to the Wall to rule as the Night's King for a while until he was ousted.
Some people think he was a Stark. (Others don't.) Some people think that there isn't really just one Night's King, but that the Night's Queen chooses a new Night's King every once in a while....and some people think she chose Benjen Stark....and some people think she's about to choose Jon Snow.
She sounds like an important character in how this thing will play out. Wonder why we haven't met her yet?
Also, can we talk about how rough ridin' stupid the name Wylis is? And are we so sure that Wylis and Hodor are the same person? Bran made that assumption in the flashback but that doesn't mean he was correct.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2016, 02:17:49 PM
He is the Night's King. He was a LC of the Night's Watch 1000 years ago (or so). He went North and met a white walker woman (Night's Queen) and she turned him into that thing. Then he went back to the Wall to rule as the Night's King for a while until he was ousted.
Some people think he was a Stark. (Others don't.) Some people think that there isn't really just one Night's King, but that the Night's Queen chooses a new Night's King every once in a while....and some people think she chose Benjen Stark....and some people think she's about to choose Jon Snow.
She sounds like an important character in how this thing will play out. Wonder why we haven't met her yet?
Also, can we talk about how rough ridin' stupid the name Wylis is? And are we so sure that Wylis and Hodor are the same person? Bran made that assumption in the flashback but that doesn't mean he was correct.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that it was already known that Hodor's real name was Wylis. That may be from the books.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 05, 2016, 02:20:15 PM
Post by: CNS on May 05, 2016, 02:21:36 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2016, 02:24:24 PM
In the books, his name is Walder.
Too many Walders so they had to change his name on the show to avoid confusion.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2016, 02:26:50 PM
Post by: TownieCat on May 05, 2016, 02:40:31 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2016, 02:49:26 PM
If you google "wylis game of thrones" it yields much different results than what has been implied in this thread.
This is the first result which basically says exactly what I've been saying.........
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/game-of-thrones-season-6-theorists-believe-they-know-why-hodor-wylis-cant-talk-anymore-a7012611.html
Post by: TownieCat on May 05, 2016, 02:55:25 PM
If you google "wylis game of thrones" it yields much different results than what has been implied in this thread.
This is the first result which basically says exactly what I've been saying.........
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/game-of-thrones-season-6-theorists-believe-they-know-why-hodor-wylis-cant-talk-anymore-a7012611.html
The wiki page tho :confused:
Post by: asava on May 05, 2016, 03:21:51 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 05, 2016, 03:26:38 PM
To be fair, there is also a fan theory out there that Robert Baratheon was super in love with Ned Stark and wanted to love him so badly that when he found out it wasn't possible he let the boar kill him.
That explains why he drank so much. Ned Stark and his damned honor.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2016, 03:29:02 PM
To be fair, there is also a fan theory out there that Robert Baratheon was super in love with Ned Stark and wanted to love him so badly that when he found out it wasn't possible he let the boar kill him.
I'm guessing that the boar was a warg assassin sent by Cersei.
Post by: asava on May 05, 2016, 03:30:53 PM
We shall from here on out, refer to this theory as "Hot for Honor" which is way different than the "Hot for Hodor" theory laying in the weeds.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 05, 2016, 03:32:11 PM
To be fair, there is also a fan theory out there that Robert Baratheon was super in love with Ned Stark and wanted to love him so badly that when he found out it wasn't possible he let the boar kill him.
I'm guessing that the boar was a warg assassin sent by Cersei.
This would make sense, but who warged the boar? Lancel?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2016, 03:40:35 PM
To be fair, there is also a fan theory out there that Robert Baratheon was super in love with Ned Stark and wanted to love him so badly that when he found out it wasn't possible he let the boar kill him.
I'm guessing that the boar was a warg assassin sent by Cersei.
This would make sense, but who warged the boar? Lancel?
No, Lancel was there with the wine. It was a secret warg that Cersei had killed later.
Post by: asava on May 05, 2016, 03:41:31 PM
To be fair, there is also a fan theory out there that Robert Baratheon was super in love with Ned Stark and wanted to love him so badly that when he found out it wasn't possible he let the boar kill him.
I'm guessing that the boar was a warg assassin sent by Cersei.
This would make sense, but who warged the boar? Lancel?
No, Lancel was there with the wine. It was a secret warg that Cersei had killed later.
Prolly was Bran all along, IMHO.
Post by: AppleJack on May 05, 2016, 04:05:46 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on May 05, 2016, 10:40:24 PM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 06, 2016, 09:58:02 AM
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Post by: mocat on May 07, 2016, 12:28:57 PM
Post by: CNS on May 07, 2016, 01:07:40 PM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 08, 2016, 08:54:14 PM
Post by: TownieCat on May 08, 2016, 09:37:56 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 08, 2016, 11:52:42 PM
Dany - you still suck and storyline is boring. Nobody likes you.
Kevan Lannister is easily my third most favorite Lannister. Glad he might be getting more screen time.
Tower of Joy. I liked the casting for Dayne. Not so sure on young Ned. But maybe. The whole two broadsword thing seemed a little sand snake choreographed, but ok. 3EY says Howland is Meera's father. I don't buy it. We shall see.
The High Sparrow is a good actor and they're really trying to make that storyline into something. But it just kinda bores me.
Jon gonna go kick some ass, and wildlings are coming with him. But what's Ed supposed to do now with his half-dozen Brothers?
Post by: star seed 7 on May 09, 2016, 12:02:02 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 09, 2016, 06:50:05 AM
Post by: TownieCat on May 09, 2016, 07:03:54 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 09, 2016, 08:41:24 AM
Bran can't learn too much too fast or he'll miss the lessons and details along the way. He needs to crawl before he walks.
You sound just like the guy in the tree. If Bran is supposed to learn Ever-y-thing before the white walkers come kill everyone then he needs to learn more than 5 minutes of info in each vision session.
Post by: TownieCat on May 09, 2016, 08:56:38 AM
You sound like a millennial seeking instant gratification and whatnot.Bran can't learn too much too fast or he'll miss the lessons and details along the way. He needs to crawl before he walks.
You sound just like the guy in the tree. If Bran is supposed to learn Ever-y-thing before the white walkers come kill everyone then he needs to learn more than 5 minutes of info in each vision session.
Post by: mocat on May 09, 2016, 09:37:40 AM
The guy in the tree is starting to piss me off. What is the point of these visions of he makes Bran leave before he finds out anything?
uhm, Bran was about to change F'ing history and 3-ER was not about to let that happen. i thought that was pretty obvious
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 09, 2016, 09:40:28 AM
The guy in the tree is starting to piss me off. What is the point of these visions of he makes Bran leave before he finds out anything?
uhm, Bran was about to change F'ing history and 3-ER was not about to let that happen. i thought that was pretty obvious
History is already written.
Post by: mocat on May 09, 2016, 09:43:56 AM
The guy in the tree is starting to piss me off. What is the point of these visions of he makes Bran leave before he finds out anything?
uhm, Bran was about to change F'ing history and 3-ER was not about to let that happen. i thought that was pretty obvious
History is already written.
Ned clearly heard Bran talking to him from the future, which means Bran has the power to change the past.
Also the "written history" of Ned vs Arthur Dayne was obviously untrue, and now there is a person who was not there who knows this.
Post by: mocat on May 09, 2016, 09:48:32 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 09, 2016, 09:51:03 AM
guys, srsly tho where is Jon Snow going? :excited:
To Winterfell? He and Sansa are going to miss each other but pass very close to one another. Maybe Jon will be in time to save Rickon.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 09, 2016, 10:01:10 AM
Real lack of warging this episode
Yes, I agree. More warging was needed.
Do you guys ever think about Nymeria and wonder if she is going to show back up?
Post by: Cire on May 09, 2016, 10:18:01 AM
The guy in the tree is starting to piss me off. What is the point of these visions of he makes Bran leave before he finds out anything?
didn't you read "The Giver"? No one can handle that stuff all at once.
Post by: TownieCat on May 09, 2016, 10:21:59 AM
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Post by: mocat on May 09, 2016, 10:45:51 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 09, 2016, 10:49:54 AM
Peeling their skin off and rape of course
Good thing Reek already escaped or he would be punished for lying about killing Rickon.
Post by: wetwillie on May 09, 2016, 10:55:44 AM
Post by: sys on May 09, 2016, 10:56:04 AM
Post by: asava on May 09, 2016, 10:58:40 AM
Real lack of warging this episode
Yes, I agree. More warging was needed.
Do you guys ever think about Nymeria and wonder if she is going to show back up?
did you guys ever think that maybe Bran has to learn "everything" because he is gonna be able to Warg with THE MOTHER FUCKIN WORLD?
also
RIP SHAGGYDOG. MUCH LUV.
I get more angry when one of the direwolves get killed than when a main character dies off. Here is to hoping Nymeria joins up with Ghost and Jon Snow and Sansa in the future. This season is moving so fast.
i'd like sam, gilly, gilly's baby, tyrion, grey worm and whatever the translator woman's name is killed asap. it's obviously the only way the writers can be forced not to waste screen time on their boring pointless asses.
Sam/Gilly/Sam Jr. are by far the worst parts of this show. Don't even know how you can throw tyrion up in that mix.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 09, 2016, 11:01:05 AM
1. The traitors who were executed because they broke their oath to obey the LC
2. Jon Snow for leaving the Night's Watch
3.
4. Dany because she is going to leave Vaes Dothrak against the rules
5. Howland Reed because he stabbed a guy in the back
6. Sam because he is not keeping Gilly with him as promised
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 09, 2016, 11:05:10 AM
Peeling their skin off and rape of course
Good thing Reek already escaped or he would be punished for lying about killing Rickon.
I thought he told Ramsey he didn't kill Rickon.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 09, 2016, 11:06:07 AM
Peeling their skin off and rape of course
Good thing Reek already escaped or he would be punished for lying about killing Rickon.
I thought he told Ramsey he didn't kill Rickon.
Oh, did he? I didn't remember that. So Ramsey knows Bran is alive too?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 09, 2016, 11:19:40 AM
Peeling their skin off and rape of course
Good thing Reek already escaped or he would be punished for lying about killing Rickon.
I thought he told Ramsey he didn't kill Rickon.
Oh, did he? I didn't remember that. So Ramsey knows Bran is alive too?
Yeah
Post by: TownieCat on May 09, 2016, 11:53:28 AM
So, who was the "Oathbreaker" in last night's episode as per the title of the episode?Jon. Although he technically died for a bit so his watch ended.
1. The traitors who were executed because they broke their oath to obey the LC
2. Jon Snow for leaving the Night's Watch
3.AryaA Girl because she is going to end up killing more people on her list
4. Dany because she is going to leave Vaes Dothrak against the rules
5. Howland Reed because he stabbed a guy in the back
6. Sam because he is not keeping Gilly with him as promised
Post by: asava on May 09, 2016, 11:56:09 AM
So, who was the "Oathbreaker" in last night's episode as per the title of the episode?
1. The traitors who were executed because they broke their oath to obey the LC
2. Jon Snow for leaving the Night's Watch
3.AryaA Girl because she is going to end up killing more people on her list
4. Dany because she is going to leave Vaes Dothrak against the rules
5. Howland Reed because he stabbed a guy in the back
6. Sam because he is not keeping Gilly with him as promised
Snow didn't really break his oath tho.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 09, 2016, 12:00:23 PM
So, who was the "Oathbreaker" in last night's episode as per the title of the episode?
1. The traitors who were executed because they broke their oath to obey the LC
2. Jon Snow for leaving the Night's Watch
3.AryaA Girl because she is going to end up killing more people on her list
4. Dany because she is going to leave Vaes Dothrak against the rules
5. Howland Reed because he stabbed a guy in the back
6. Sam because he is not keeping Gilly with him as promised
Snow didn't really break his oath tho.
Yeah, I agree that Jon didn't break his oath since he died.
Post by: mocat on May 09, 2016, 12:09:02 PM
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Post by: asava on May 09, 2016, 12:30:49 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 09, 2016, 12:59:43 PM
Is Jon Snow going to go off and sulk somewhere or kick extreme amounts of ass?
He's probably going to sulk in between ass kickings.
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 09, 2016, 01:29:55 PM
I thought Jon was going to pardon Olly. Made me sad.
Olly deserved to die.
Post by: asava on May 09, 2016, 01:58:13 PM
Olly was a B H I T C H.
Post by: HerrSonntag on May 09, 2016, 02:01:19 PM
Post by: asava on May 09, 2016, 02:06:26 PM
No character in the show pisses me off as much as Olly, i cheered when they cut to his :sdeek: face.
All those "cut to Olly" scenes that we were forced to sit through. WHO GIVES A crap WHAT OLLY THINKS OF THIS SITUATION, SHOW DIRECTOR; HE'S A KID! Olly was a fuckboi if there ever was one in GoT.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 09, 2016, 02:15:17 PM
I thought Jon was going to pardon Olly. Made me sad.
Olly deserved to die.
I think Olly was (1) a child, who (2) had a personal and intense dislike for wildlings because he watched them murder his parents, and (3) got swept up in a coup because of items (1) and (2). I'm not in favor of hanging children, especially in that situation.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 09, 2016, 02:24:04 PM
I thought Jon was going to pardon Olly. Made me sad.
Olly deserved to die.
I think Olly was (1) a child, who (2) had a personal and intense dislike for wildlings because he watched them murder his parents, and (3) got swept up in a coup because of items (1) and (2). I'm not in favor of hanging children, especially in that situation.
OK, maybe deserved is a strong word, but he needed to die. The punishment for being a traitor to the LC is death. You can't keep a traitor around, not knowing when he is going to stab anyone in the back, just because he is a little young.
Post by: Cire on May 09, 2016, 02:25:57 PM
Eff em
Post by: wetwillie on May 09, 2016, 02:53:40 PM
Post by: TownieCat on May 09, 2016, 02:54:04 PM
Post by: TownieCat on May 09, 2016, 02:56:18 PM
Hanging was a pretty decent way to go for what they deserved really.Not sure about the 3 accomplices, but I would've burned Alliser at the stake.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 09, 2016, 03:06:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vcQdcaYPA0
Post by: sys on May 09, 2016, 03:24:41 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on May 09, 2016, 03:29:43 PM
very glad olly got what he deserved. if they'd figure out a way to off sam, gilly and gilly baby i think i could stomach most of the rest of the shitty scenes.You monster.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 09, 2016, 06:50:33 PM
very glad olly got what he deserved. if they'd figure out a way to off sam, gilly and gilly baby i think i could stomach most of the rest of the shitty scenes.
just get sam away from gilly and gilly baby, should be enough
Post by: TownieCat on May 09, 2016, 07:07:53 PM
Post by: sys on May 09, 2016, 07:14:37 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 09, 2016, 09:46:37 PM
Also, KSUW, Westeros is not earth. The kids all deserve to die if the writers deem it so.
Warging is awesome.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 09, 2016, 09:48:56 PM
Except for the Dany stuff. Woof. There's not much suspense when the mother of dragons can have her dragon swoop down and carry her off to safety whenever she's ready to leave.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 09, 2016, 09:50:35 PM
Also, KSUW, Westeros is not earth. The kids all deserve to die if the writers deem it so.
Doesn't mean I gotta like it! :shakesfist:
Post by: star seed 7 on May 09, 2016, 11:17:23 PM
Post by: Cire on May 10, 2016, 05:49:44 AM
I think as soon as they heard roose was dead they are going to ambush Ramsey
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Post by: Asteriskhead on May 10, 2016, 07:55:21 AM
Also, KSUW, Westeros is not earth. The kids all deserve to die if the writers deem it so.
Doesn't mean I gotta like it! :shakesfist:
True, but you should shut the eff up about it. All the fake religions bother me, but I'm not bitching about it because it is fantasy and it doesn't matter.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 10, 2016, 09:18:27 AM
Post by: michigancat on May 12, 2016, 10:38:17 PM
Post by: asava on May 13, 2016, 11:52:57 AM
Did they really include a fart joke in that last episode? eff this stupid show.
for a show with so many dick jokes, i'm a little surprised that you are surprised by this.
Post by: CNS on May 13, 2016, 11:55:16 AM
Post by: Tobias on May 13, 2016, 11:58:34 AM
Post by: TownieCat on May 13, 2016, 12:04:56 PM
exactly what kind of violence towards children are we talking about here? i may not have given this thing a fair shake
Oh man, where to begin... What is your stance on dogs eating newborns? Or sacrificing children to gain favor with a god?
Post by: mocat on May 13, 2016, 12:05:55 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 13, 2016, 12:06:34 PM
exactly what kind of violence towards children are we talking about here? i may not have given this thing a fair shake
How about smashing a baby against a wall because it may hold a superior claim to the throne
Post by: CNS on May 13, 2016, 12:07:09 PM
i mean right there in Ep1 you have to decide if you're going to keep going or not
The exact reason CNSWife won't give it a go. She saw the Bran injury.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 13, 2016, 12:07:38 PM
i mean right there in Ep1 you have to decide if you're going to keep going or not
The exact scene that hooked me on this son of a bitch
Post by: Tobias on May 13, 2016, 12:11:23 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 13, 2016, 12:16:12 PM
Post by: asava on May 13, 2016, 12:41:04 PM
Post by: mocat on May 13, 2016, 12:50:27 PM
holy crap, i am suddenly confused by the book and know what I'm doing this weekend
Well that's fun
:dubious: he's said this before
this thread makes me want to watch GoT :thumbs:
Post by: star seed 7 on May 13, 2016, 01:00:21 PM
Post by: Tobias on May 13, 2016, 01:10:04 PM
Post by: michigancat on May 13, 2016, 01:47:28 PM
Maybe I haven't noticed the dick jokesDid they really include a fart joke in that last episode? eff this stupid show.
for a show with so many dick jokes, i'm a little surprised that you are surprised by this.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 13, 2016, 01:48:33 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 13, 2016, 02:03:50 PM
This last episode tormund said john has a small penis
He was just joking though. Ygritte seemed pretty happy.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 13, 2016, 02:05:50 PM
This last episode tormund said john has a small penis
He was just joking though. Ygritte seemed pretty happy.
aka a dick joke :dubious:
Post by: mocat on May 13, 2016, 02:13:00 PM
Post by: michigancat on May 13, 2016, 02:17:12 PM
This last episode tormund said john has a small penisYeah but that was a bro razzin' his bro. Not a great moment, but feels a level above audible farting.
Post by: TownieCat on May 13, 2016, 02:20:30 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 13, 2016, 02:21:33 PM
you seemed pretty defensive there, mrs gooch
I'm just saying that I don't believe that Jon has a small dick. :dunno:
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 13, 2016, 02:22:56 PM
I don't remember the fart joke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74Ao1ltSy64
Post by: TownieCat on May 13, 2016, 02:26:31 PM
Post by: mocat on May 13, 2016, 02:33:13 PM
Post by: mocat on May 13, 2016, 02:33:43 PM
Post by: asava on May 13, 2016, 03:50:30 PM
Maybe I haven't noticed the dick jokesDid they really include a fart joke in that last episode? eff this stupid show.
for a show with so many dick jokes, i'm a little surprised that you are surprised by this.
there was pretty much entire episode dedicated to Podrick's magical wizard dick. plus, have you seen a picture of GRRM? he's basically one walking fart.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.en.yibada.com%2Fdata%2Fimages%2Ffull%2F47763%2Fgeorge-r-r-martin-author-of-game-of-thrones.jpg&hash=dff7e76a6307d97e53b102e4dce315280e50effe)
Post by: asava on May 13, 2016, 03:52:21 PM
you seemed pretty defensive there, mrs gooch
I'm just saying that I don't believe that Jon has a small dick. :dunno:
you don't believe that he does, or you don't want to believe that he does?
Post by: michigancat on May 13, 2016, 05:26:59 PM
I mean if you think that episode was the equivalent of an audible fart for laughs that's your rightMaybe I haven't noticed the dick jokesDid they really include a fart joke in that last episode? eff this stupid show.
for a show with so many dick jokes, i'm a little surprised that you are surprised by this.
there was pretty much entire episode dedicated to Podrick's magical wizard dick. plus, have you seen a picture of GRRM? he's basically one walking fart.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.en.yibada.com%2Fdata%2Fimages%2Ffull%2F47763%2Fgeorge-r-r-martin-author-of-game-of-thrones.jpg&hash=dff7e76a6307d97e53b102e4dce315280e50effe)
Post by: mocat on May 15, 2016, 09:09:05 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 15, 2016, 09:10:20 PM
Post by: mocat on May 15, 2016, 09:16:44 PM
Post by: Tobias on May 15, 2016, 09:17:41 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 15, 2016, 09:20:37 PM
Post by: Tobias on May 15, 2016, 09:21:23 PM
Post by: Tobias on May 15, 2016, 09:22:24 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 15, 2016, 09:35:16 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on May 15, 2016, 09:43:21 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 15, 2016, 10:04:38 PM
Post by: Cire on May 15, 2016, 10:15:10 PM
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Post by: sys on May 16, 2016, 02:00:34 AM
Post by: mocat on May 16, 2016, 06:55:15 AM
(!)
Post by: star seed 7 on May 16, 2016, 08:15:12 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 08:20:06 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 16, 2016, 08:22:21 AM
I really can't believe that Jon & Sansa got reunited. They haven't seen each other since the first episode!
They've never even talked to each other in the show, so weird
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 16, 2016, 08:50:14 AM
The Mereen and Kings Landing stuff is getting tedious. The one character that significantly advanced in this episode was Dany, but she's my least favorite of the main characters. The scene also felt a little campy.
The meeting between Davos and Breanne felt perfunctory. The Stark reunion was great for the first few moments, but felt sterile as soon as they started talking.
Question: so did Mormont and Dario pour oil or something on the floor, or did they just bar the doors? I'm trying to figure out if Dany has some kind of built-in magic flamethrower.
Also, it seems like time is advancing by weeks and months in all the storylines except for Kings Landing, where Cersei's trial continues to be "a few days away."
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 08:53:50 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 08:57:20 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 16, 2016, 09:01:02 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 09:03:42 AM
The timelines have always been all over the place
What do you mean? Like, the time it took Arya to "master" blind fighting was the same amount of time it took Cersei to have a single conversation?
Post by: mocat on May 16, 2016, 09:12:03 AM
Post by: mocat on May 16, 2016, 09:18:20 AM
Post by: Cire on May 16, 2016, 09:20:04 AM
well for example this new puberty-era robert arryn is not merely months removed from breastfeeding.
he breast fed quite a while.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 09:21:08 AM
well for example this new puberty-era robert arryn is not merely months removed from breastfeeding.
he breast fed quite a while.
Yeah, he was like 12 when he quit breastfeeding (by way of his mother dying).
Post by: mocat on May 16, 2016, 09:21:25 AM
well for example this new puberty-era robert arryn is not merely months removed from breastfeeding.
he breast fed quite a while.
yeah when he was like 10. now it looks like he has a Vale learner's permit
Post by: star seed 7 on May 16, 2016, 09:24:57 AM
ksuw hating Dany has got to be related to lena dunham somehow
I think that would translate more to lena dunham impersonator Yara greyjoy
Post by: Cire on May 16, 2016, 09:25:24 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 16, 2016, 09:31:09 AM
Post by: Tobias on May 16, 2016, 09:36:22 AM
Post by: pissclams on May 16, 2016, 09:53:33 AM
This show marked a turning point in the season. After the first three episodes went at breakneck pace and provided a very satisfying answer to the Season 5 cliffhanger, this episode significantly slowed down. I don't mind that, per se, but whereas similar "reset" episodes in the past have been driven by great dialogue and intrigue, this one just didn't have it. It was really kinda crappy. No sand snakes, at least.
The Mereen and Kings Landing stuff is getting tedious. The one character that significantly advanced in this episode was Dany, but she's my least favorite of the main characters. The scene also felt a little campy.
The meeting between Davos and Breanne felt perfunctory. The Stark reunion was great for the first few moments, but felt sterile as soon as they started talking.
Question: so did Mormont and Dario pour oil or something on the floor, or did they just bar the doors? I'm trying to figure out if Dany has some kind of built-in magic flamethrower.
Also, it seems like time is advancing by weeks and months in all the storylines except for Kings Landing, where Cersei's trial continues to be "a few days away."
you don't seem like you would be very fun to watch tv with.
Post by: AppleJack on May 16, 2016, 10:11:22 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 10:13:45 AM
Oh, look, Ramsay Bolton is still completely dominating Westeros.
I am hopeful that Jon & Sansa are going to put an end to that. I am afraid that Rickon is going to be killed in from of them first though.
Post by: Cire on May 16, 2016, 10:16:47 AM
Probably quite a few. Hopefully he can wreck shlt when the time comes an dthe bannermen turn on Ramsay
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 10:19:05 AM
Post by: OK_Cat on May 16, 2016, 10:29:51 AM
Post by: TownieCat on May 16, 2016, 10:45:58 AM
I have no emotional attachment to Rickon since he has been completely absent for so long.Oh, look, Ramsay Bolton is still completely dominating Westeros.
I am hopeful that Jon & Sansa are going to put an end to that. I am afraid that Rickon is going to be killed in from of them first though.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 10:57:33 AM
I have no emotional attachment to Rickon since he has been completely absent for so long.Oh, look, Ramsay Bolton is still completely dominating Westeros.
I am hopeful that Jon & Sansa are going to put an end to that. I am afraid that Rickon is going to be killed in from of them first though.
Well I still don't want Jon & Sansa to have to watch their brother get killed.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 11:16:50 AM
well for example this new puberty-era robert arryn is not merely months removed from breastfeeding.
he breast fed quite a while.
yeah when he was like 10. now it looks like he has a Vale learner's permit
Well pretty much all of the kids have aged more than the actual timeline would allow. Rickon and Bran have definitely aged more than a few months.
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 16, 2016, 11:33:47 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 16, 2016, 11:38:42 AM
well for example this new puberty-era robert arryn is not merely months removed from breastfeeding.
he breast fed quite a while.
yeah when he was like 10. now it looks like he has a Vale learner's permit
Well pretty much all of the kids have aged more than the actual timeline would allow. Rickon and Bran have definitely aged more than a few months.
Has the actual timeline only advanced a few months? It seems like it should have advanced at least a couple of years.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 16, 2016, 11:42:08 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 11:47:43 AM
well for example this new puberty-era robert arryn is not merely months removed from breastfeeding.
he breast fed quite a while.
yeah when he was like 10. now it looks like he has a Vale learner's permit
Well pretty much all of the kids have aged more than the actual timeline would allow. Rickon and Bran have definitely aged more than a few months.
Has the actual timeline only advanced a few months? It seems like it should have advanced at least a couple of years.
The best estimate I've read is 2-3 years since the very beginning of the show. But I was just rough estimating a few months since we've seen Bran (in season 4). A few more since we've seen Rickon, I guess.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 11:49:58 AM
Didn't Littlefinger convince the people watching the Arryn boy to also go to war against Bolton? It will be Jon/Sansa/Wildlings (army of 2k) plus the Arryn's men (unknown numbers) vs Bolton's army of 5k.
Yes, but Jon & Sansa don't know that yet and who knows if both armies will meet up at the same time to attack the Boltons. I don't really know how far away the Vale is, but it is possible that Jon/Sansa/Wildlings could arrive to Winterfell much sooner and not have the Vale army as back up.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 11:55:13 AM
In Bran's visions, he is actually time travelling (as evidenced by Ned hearing him) and at some point he is going to warg into young Wylis to try to warn his family of the upcoming danger. But for some reason (warging into people is bad, or warging across time is bad) that is going to screw up Wylis' mind and he is going to turn into Hodor...maybe Bran says the word "Hodor" during the warging debacle. :dunno:
Post by: Cire on May 16, 2016, 11:56:33 AM
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Post by: star seed 7 on May 16, 2016, 11:57:12 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 16, 2016, 11:58:00 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 11:59:31 AM
well for example this new puberty-era robert arryn is not merely months removed from breastfeeding.
he breast fed quite a while.
yeah when he was like 10. now it looks like he has a Vale learner's permit
Well pretty much all of the kids have aged more than the actual timeline would allow. Rickon and Bran have definitely aged more than a few months.
Has the actual timeline only advanced a few months? It seems like it should have advanced at least a couple of years.
The best estimate I've read is 2-3 years since the very beginning of the show. But I was just rough estimating a few months since we've seen Bran (in season 4). A few more since we've seen Rickon, I guess.
How old do you think little Sam looked on that ship?
Post by: sys on May 16, 2016, 12:05:26 PM
Sys, Dany STOLE her HOME back
(!)
i'm intp-a, so looking for things that don't make sense is a hobby for me. and when i find them, i don't like them. the daenerys scene wasn't even the least logical of the episode though. the small council scene, my god. they could not possibly be more contemptuous of their audience. i'm starting to dislike season 6.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 12:07:03 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 16, 2016, 02:29:17 PM
well for example this new puberty-era robert arryn is not merely months removed from breastfeeding.
Yeah that kid looks years older than the last season. Is that same actor?
Post by: OK_Cat on May 16, 2016, 02:29:54 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 16, 2016, 02:32:16 PM
ksuw hating Dany has got to be related to lena dunham somehow
I think that would translate more to lena dunham impersonator Yara greyjoy
I like Yara a lot more than Dany. To be fair, most of my Dany dislike dribbles over from her POV chapters in the books, where her thinking is annoying as crap. But overall, if she was killed and we could focus back on Westeros, about the only character I'd miss would be Mormont.
Post by: sys on May 16, 2016, 02:39:40 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 16, 2016, 02:40:31 PM
mormont is about 10x more annoying than daenerys. he's one of the most worst people in either the book or show.
Yes.
Post by: CNS on May 16, 2016, 02:41:07 PM
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Post by: mocat on May 16, 2016, 02:41:24 PM
ksuw hating Dany has got to be related to lena dunham somehow
I think that would translate more to lena dunham impersonator Yara greyjoy
I like Yara a lot more than Dany. To be fair, most of my Dany dislike dribbles over from her POV chapters in the books, where her thinking is annoying as crap. But overall, if she was killed and we could focus back on Westeros, about the only character I'd miss would be Mormont.
wow
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 02:41:32 PM
Obviously the same actor. I feel like you are watching a different show than the rest of us.
Yeah, exactly so that kid hasn't aged any more than the actors who play Bran and Rickon; which was exactly my point.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 02:42:48 PM
mormont is about 10x more annoying than daenerys. he's one of the most worst people in either the book or show.
Yes.
Well hopefully he dies of greyscale soon.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 16, 2016, 02:44:09 PM
Post by: sys on May 16, 2016, 02:47:58 PM
Well hopefully he dies of greyscale soon.
yes, hopefully.
Post by: catastrophe on May 16, 2016, 02:48:38 PM
Do you guys want to hear another theory about how Hodor got to be Hodor?
In Bran's visions, he is actually time travelling (as evidenced by Ned hearing him) and at some point he is going to warg into young Wylis to try to warn his family of the upcoming danger. But for some reason (warging into people is bad, or warging across time is bad) that is going to screw up Wylis' mind and he is going to turn into Hodor...maybe Bran says the word "Hodor" during the warging debacle. :dunno:
So, Hodor helps Bran get to the tree where Bran learns to time travel, and while time traveling he wargs into Wylis and turns Wylis into Hodor, who later helps Bran get to the tree to learn to time travel?
Come on, guys, he just got kicked in the head by a horse...
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 02:58:22 PM
Do you guys want to hear another theory about how Hodor got to be Hodor?
In Bran's visions, he is actually time travelling (as evidenced by Ned hearing him) and at some point he is going to warg into young Wylis to try to warn his family of the upcoming danger. But for some reason (warging into people is bad, or warging across time is bad) that is going to screw up Wylis' mind and he is going to turn into Hodor...maybe Bran says the word "Hodor" during the warging debacle. :dunno:
So, Hodor helps Bran get to the tree where Bran learns to time travel, and while time traveling he wargs into Wylis and turns Wylis into Hodor, who later helps Bran get to the tree to learn to time travel?
Come on, guys, he just got kicked in the head by a horse...
It's got to me more complicated than that or they wouldn't have made such a big deal about it.
Also, what do you guys think of the idea that when the Mad King was hearing voices it was actually Bran talking in one of his time traveling visions?
Post by: Gooch on May 16, 2016, 03:04:33 PM
Oh, look, Ramsay Bolton is still completely dominating Westeros.#MyGuy Dude just gets crap done.
Post by: TownieCat on May 16, 2016, 03:06:01 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 16, 2016, 03:06:23 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 03:06:45 PM
Oh, look, Ramsay Bolton is still completely dominating Westeros.#MyGuy Dude just gets crap done.
The fact that you like Ramsey says a lot.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 16, 2016, 03:08:46 PM
Post by: Gooch on May 16, 2016, 03:09:05 PM
His processes may be a bit harsh but you can't argue with the results.Oh, look, Ramsay Bolton is still completely dominating Westeros.#MyGuy Dude just gets crap done.
The fact that you like Ramsey says a lot.
Post by: Tobias on May 16, 2016, 03:09:18 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 16, 2016, 03:09:54 PM
Do you guys want to hear another theory about how Hodor got to be Hodor?
In Bran's visions, he is actually time travelling (as evidenced by Ned hearing him) and at some point he is going to warg into young Wylis to try to warn his family of the upcoming danger. But for some reason (warging into people is bad, or warging across time is bad) that is going to screw up Wylis' mind and he is going to turn into Hodor...maybe Bran says the word "Hodor" during the warging debacle. :dunno:
So, Hodor helps Bran get to the tree where Bran learns to time travel, and while time traveling he wargs into Wylis and turns Wylis into Hodor, who later helps Bran get to the tree to learn to time travel?
Come on, guys, he just got kicked in the head by a horse...
It's got to me more complicated than that or they wouldn't have made such a big deal about it.
Also, what do you guys think of the idea that when the Mad King was hearing voices it was actually Bran talking in one of his time traveling visions?
Ok, yes it's more complicated, but I don't think they are going to do anything where Bran actually alters history (especially in a way that actually explains events that previously happened) by time traveling. Time traveling plots are ridiculous and mostly circular. If GoT starts going the parallel universe route I might be done with it.
Post by: TownieCat on May 16, 2016, 03:17:10 PM
Post by: AppleJack on May 16, 2016, 03:24:13 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 03:25:57 PM
Osha deserved to die. She had one rough ridin' job to do! :curse:
If she was relying on a knife that just happened to be laying on the table of a room that she was forced to go into, that wasn't a very good plan to start with.
Post by: Gooch on May 16, 2016, 03:27:05 PM
Post by: asava on May 16, 2016, 03:28:10 PM
Do you guys want to hear another theory about how Hodor got to be Hodor?
In Bran's visions, he is actually time travelling (as evidenced by Ned hearing him) and at some point he is going to warg into young Wylis to try to warn his family of the upcoming danger. But for some reason (warging into people is bad, or warging across time is bad) that is going to screw up Wylis' mind and he is going to turn into Hodor...maybe Bran says the word "Hodor" during the warging debacle. :dunno:
So, Hodor helps Bran get to the tree where Bran learns to time travel, and while time traveling he wargs into Wylis and turns Wylis into Hodor, who later helps Bran get to the tree to learn to time travel?
Come on, guys, he just got kicked in the head by a horse...
It's got to me more complicated than that or they wouldn't have made such a big deal about it.
Also, what do you guys think of the idea that when the Mad King was hearing voices it was actually Bran talking in one of his time traveling visions?
Why the eff would Bran begat the very circumstance that eventually caused almost all of his family members to die?
Post by: TownieCat on May 16, 2016, 03:29:16 PM
Her one job was to protect Rickon.Osha deserved to die. She had one rough ridin' job to do! :curse:
If she was relying on a knife that just happened to be laying on the table of a room that she was forced to go into, that wasn't a very good plan to start with.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 03:30:15 PM
Do you guys want to hear another theory about how Hodor got to be Hodor?
In Bran's visions, he is actually time travelling (as evidenced by Ned hearing him) and at some point he is going to warg into young Wylis to try to warn his family of the upcoming danger. But for some reason (warging into people is bad, or warging across time is bad) that is going to screw up Wylis' mind and he is going to turn into Hodor...maybe Bran says the word "Hodor" during the warging debacle. :dunno:
So, Hodor helps Bran get to the tree where Bran learns to time travel, and while time traveling he wargs into Wylis and turns Wylis into Hodor, who later helps Bran get to the tree to learn to time travel?
Come on, guys, he just got kicked in the head by a horse...
It's got to me more complicated than that or they wouldn't have made such a big deal about it.
Also, what do you guys think of the idea that when the Mad King was hearing voices it was actually Bran talking in one of his time traveling visions?
Why the eff would Bran begat the very circumstance that eventually caused almost all of his family members to die?
Well he isn't going realize what he is doing when he does it. He is going to be trying to warn someone of something.
Post by: asava on May 16, 2016, 03:34:28 PM
Do you guys want to hear another theory about how Hodor got to be Hodor?
In Bran's visions, he is actually time travelling (as evidenced by Ned hearing him) and at some point he is going to warg into young Wylis to try to warn his family of the upcoming danger. But for some reason (warging into people is bad, or warging across time is bad) that is going to screw up Wylis' mind and he is going to turn into Hodor...maybe Bran says the word "Hodor" during the warging debacle. :dunno:
So, Hodor helps Bran get to the tree where Bran learns to time travel, and while time traveling he wargs into Wylis and turns Wylis into Hodor, who later helps Bran get to the tree to learn to time travel?
Come on, guys, he just got kicked in the head by a horse...
It's got to me more complicated than that or they wouldn't have made such a big deal about it.
Also, what do you guys think of the idea that when the Mad King was hearing voices it was actually Bran talking in one of his time traveling visions?
Why the eff would Bran begat the very circumstance that eventually caused almost all of his family members to die?
Well he isn't going realize what he is doing when he does it. He is going to be trying to warn someone of something.
WARNING KING: IF YOU DON'T GO CRAZY AND THREATEN TO KILL EVERYONE IN KINGS LANDING, JAIMIE LANNISTER WON'T KILL YOU AND ROBERT WON'T DEFEAT YOUR ARMY AND YOU'LL KEEP ON RULING AND STUFF. PLZ DON'T GO INSANE WITH MY VOICE IN YOUR HEAD.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 16, 2016, 03:42:21 PM
Do you guys want to hear another theory about how Hodor got to be Hodor?
In Bran's visions, he is actually time travelling (as evidenced by Ned hearing him) and at some point he is going to warg into young Wylis to try to warn his family of the upcoming danger. But for some reason (warging into people is bad, or warging across time is bad) that is going to screw up Wylis' mind and he is going to turn into Hodor...maybe Bran says the word "Hodor" during the warging debacle. :dunno:
So, Hodor helps Bran get to the tree where Bran learns to time travel, and while time traveling he wargs into Wylis and turns Wylis into Hodor, who later helps Bran get to the tree to learn to time travel?
Come on, guys, he just got kicked in the head by a horse...
It's got to me more complicated than that or they wouldn't have made such a big deal about it.
Also, what do you guys think of the idea that when the Mad King was hearing voices it was actually Bran talking in one of his time traveling visions?
Why the eff would Bran begat the very circumstance that eventually caused almost all of his family members to die?
Well he isn't going realize what he is doing when he does it. He is going to be trying to warn someone of something.
WARNING KING: IF YOU DON'T GO CRAZY AND THREATEN TO KILL EVERYONE IN KINGS LANDING, JAIMIE LANNISTER WON'T KILL YOU AND ROBERT WON'T DEFEAT YOUR ARMY AND YOU'LL KEEP ON RULING AND STUFF. PLZ DON'T GO INSANE WITH MY VOICE IN YOUR HEAD.
I think it would go more like him seeing Jaime in the room and saying "Oh, look! It's the Kingslayer!"
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 16, 2016, 03:43:24 PM
KING: KILL EVERYONE IN KINGS LANDING AND YOU'LL KEEP ON RULING AND STUFF.
What if the message gets distorted and he only hears part of it?
Post by: asava on May 16, 2016, 03:44:33 PM
Post by: mocat on May 16, 2016, 03:45:23 PM
It's probably Bran just trying to warg with Aerys II and that caused him to go crazy.
so Jaime killed AND maimed bran :Wha:
Post by: star seed 7 on May 16, 2016, 04:11:05 PM
It's probably Bran just trying to warg with Aerys II and that caused him to go crazy.
What if a horse kicked aerys in the head and he went insane
Post by: asava on May 16, 2016, 04:12:09 PM
It's probably Bran just trying to warg with Aerys II and that caused him to go crazy.
What if a horse kicked aerys in the head and he went insane
What if a horse kicked aerys in the head while bran was attempting to warg with him?!
Post by: star seed 7 on May 16, 2016, 04:13:47 PM
Post by: wetwillie on May 16, 2016, 07:25:50 PM
Osha can handle herself w/ Ramsay
:lol:
Post by: mocat on May 16, 2016, 07:44:49 PM
Osha can handle herself w/ Ramsay
This show always surprises me!
Post by: nicname on May 16, 2016, 08:01:09 PM
Ramsey was better when he was getting humiliated by his dad all the time. Kinda jumped the evil shark now
Agreed. Still think Joffrey (sp?) was the most evil. Also the best evil.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 16, 2016, 08:54:08 PM
Ramsey was better when he was getting humiliated by his dad all the time. Kinda jumped the evil shark now
Agreed. Still think Joffrey (sp?) was the most evil. Also the best evil.
absolutely
Post by: Cire on May 16, 2016, 09:15:40 PM
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Post by: Dub on May 17, 2016, 12:17:12 AM
Mountain was most evil in books imo
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Jumping threads probably but is it worth starting the books now?
Post by: sys on May 17, 2016, 12:43:42 AM
Jumping threads probably but is it worth starting the books now?
at this point might as well wait and see if grrm finishes the series or dies first before committing.
Post by: Cire on May 17, 2016, 05:57:20 AM
Jumping threads probably but is it worth starting the books now?
at this point might as well wait and see if grrm finishes the series or dies first before committing.
Yeah
Post by: Gooch on May 17, 2016, 01:31:37 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 17, 2016, 01:35:56 PM
Joffery was a little rat in comparison to known stud Ramsey.
Yeah Ramsey is way more evil than Joff.
Post by: Gooch on May 17, 2016, 01:38:57 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 17, 2016, 01:39:46 PM
Joffrey was cruel because he was a spoiled little psychopath. Ramsey has a goal and is working (kicking ass at it too) towards that goal.
Yes and his goal to to be a sicko.
Post by: Gooch on May 17, 2016, 01:40:58 PM
Post by: asava on May 17, 2016, 01:43:05 PM
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on May 17, 2016, 01:46:28 PM
Also, who is your guys' favorite set of gods? The old gods? Drowned God, God of Light, Many-faced god?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 17, 2016, 01:49:32 PM
I like Ramsey more than Goffery. Ramsey is pure, unadulterated psycopathic evil. Goffrey was a spoiled toddler.
Also, who is your guys' favorite set of gods? The old gods? Drowned God, God of Light, Many-faced god?
Which god did the Children of the Forest worship?
Post by: catastrophe on May 17, 2016, 01:58:13 PM
Kind of a dick though.
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on May 17, 2016, 02:00:28 PM
Which god did the Children of the Forest worship?
Is this a trick question? If not, then I have no idea.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 17, 2016, 02:04:39 PM
Which god did the Children of the Forest worship?
Is this a trick question? If not, then I have no idea.
No, not a trick question. I just looked it up and they worship the Old Gods of the Forest (which people seem to just refer to as the Old Gods). I'm pretty sure they are in charge of warging, so those are my favorite gods.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 17, 2016, 02:16:19 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 17, 2016, 03:07:59 PM
The many-faced god is the coolest. The most lame is the lord of light. I don't think the 7 gods actually exist, so they don't count.
fairly certain these are two sides of the same coin.
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on May 17, 2016, 03:09:33 PM
The many-faced god is the coolest. The most lame is the lord of light. I don't think the 7 gods actually exist, so they don't count.
I'm partial to the many-faced god myself.
Post by: catastrophe on May 17, 2016, 03:12:01 PM
The many-faced god is the coolest. The most lame is the lord of light. I don't think the 7 gods actually exist, so they don't count.
:curse:
The house of white & black is maybe my favorite part of the show, but the many-faced god really isn't that great.
I'm actually not convinced any gods exist besides the Lord of Light.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 17, 2016, 03:16:55 PM
The many-faced god is the coolest. The most lame is the lord of light. I don't think the 7 gods actually exist, so they don't count.
:curse:
The house of white & black is maybe my favorite part of the show, but the many-faced god really isn't that great.
I'm actually not convinced any gods exist besides the Lord of Light.
So you think these people just have the natural ability to blind a girl and then give a girl her eyes back?
Post by: catastrophe on May 17, 2016, 03:20:38 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 17, 2016, 03:24:35 PM
I mean, I can't think of anything the many-faced god has done that could not have also been accomplished by a mixture of poison, hallucinogens, and some elbow grease.
What about that face changing ability?
Post by: AppleJack on May 17, 2016, 03:25:59 PM
I mean, I can't think of anything the many-faced god has done that could not have also been accomplished by a mixture of poison, hallucinogens, and some elbow grease.
What about that face changing ability?
elbow grease
Post by: star seed 7 on May 17, 2016, 03:27:56 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 17, 2016, 03:33:44 PM
There's no reason to believe any of the gods exist
Who brought Jon Snow back to life then? Who created that shadow baby?
Post by: star seed 7 on May 17, 2016, 03:35:00 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 17, 2016, 03:37:55 PM
It's a fantasy show, so probably magic
Magic has to come from somewhere, dummy. If you say that magic is just there (in nature) then that is the Old Gods of the Forest.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 17, 2016, 03:41:00 PM
It's just magic bro, it's so typical that people want to attribute it to a higher power
Post by: catastrophe on May 17, 2016, 03:43:29 PM
I mean, I can't think of anything the many-faced god has done that could not have also been accomplished by a mixture of poison, hallucinogens, and some elbow grease.
What about that face changing ability?
elbow grease
Yep. They are actual faces they apparently rip off of people, so where is the divine intervention there? Ever seen "quick change" magicians?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 17, 2016, 03:43:58 PM
So which God mad Dany fireproof and the gave the white walkers power to raise zombies.
It's just magic bro, it's so typical that people want to attribute it to a higher power
I'm not claiming to know WHICH god is real, just that some god is real. If I had to guess, I would say the Old Gods because they are more like nature and that could explain all the things. Also the white walkers ARE the zombies. The Others are the ones who are raising them. Maybe the Others are gods (or maybe just their leader). Or aliens.
Post by: catastrophe on May 17, 2016, 03:44:56 PM
So which God mad Dany fireproof and the gave the white walkers power to raise zombies.
It's just magic bro, it's so typical that people want to attribute it to a higher power
Fireproof-ability could just be genetic mutation. White walkers could be the lord of light too. That guy is pretty twisted.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 17, 2016, 03:45:25 PM
I mean, I can't think of anything the many-faced god has done that could not have also been accomplished by a mixture of poison, hallucinogens, and some elbow grease.
What about that face changing ability?
elbow grease
Yep. They are actual faces they apparently rip off of people, so where is the divine intervention there? Ever seen "quick change" magicians?
How did they rip the faces off of people who were not dead and not there? Also, seems like they re-use faces a lot. How do they preserve them between uses?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 17, 2016, 03:45:58 PM
So which God mad Dany fireproof and the gave the white walkers power to raise zombies.
It's just magic bro, it's so typical that people want to attribute it to a higher power
Fireproof-ability could just be genetic mutation. White walkers could be the lord of light too. That guy is pretty twisted.
Dany might be an X-Man.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 17, 2016, 03:47:12 PM
Always get all those confused.
Anyway, why does there HAVE to be a God for magic to exist?
Post by: catastrophe on May 17, 2016, 03:49:37 PM
I mean, I can't think of anything the many-faced god has done that could not have also been accomplished by a mixture of poison, hallucinogens, and some elbow grease.
What about that face changing ability?
elbow grease
Yep. They are actual faces they apparently rip off of people, so where is the divine intervention there? Ever seen "quick change" magicians?
How did they rip the faces off of people who were not dead and not there? Also, seems like they re-use faces a lot. How do they preserve them between uses?
I thought they got all the faces from that hall? If you're saying they can impersonate someone who is still alive then I'd just say they have enough of a database by now to have a dead person's face who just looks like the alive person. As for the last question, you can tell they are sticklers for cleanliness, so that's easy.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 17, 2016, 03:50:23 PM
I thought the zombies were the wights
Always get all those confused.
Anyway, why does there HAVE to be a God for magic to exist?
OK, sorry you are right. The zombies are wights. The ones creating them are Others (but the Wildlings call Others White Walkers).
Also, if there were no god needed then why did Melisandre need to pray to the Lord of Light to get stuff done?
Post by: star seed 7 on May 17, 2016, 03:52:33 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 17, 2016, 03:53:13 PM
I thought the zombies were the wights
Always get all those confused.
Anyway, why does there HAVE to be a God for magic to exist?
Pretty sure Magic by it's definition is supernatural, so it has to originate from outside of nature. Call it whatever you want, but most people tend to refer to that source as a "god." I mean, if it makes you more comfortable you could just call the source some alternate dimension that is somehow accessible from people in the GoT world.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 17, 2016, 03:56:04 PM
I thought the zombies were the wights
Always get all those confused.
Anyway, why does there HAVE to be a God for magic to exist?
Pretty sure Magic by it's definition is supernatural, so it has to originate from outside of nature. Call it whatever you want, but most people tend to refer to that source as a "god." I mean, if it makes you more comfortable you could just call the source some alternate dimension that is somehow accessible from people in the GoT world.
Actual magic doesn't exist in our world, it does in theirs. It's useless to compare the two
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 17, 2016, 03:57:20 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 17, 2016, 03:59:29 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 17, 2016, 04:01:16 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 17, 2016, 04:02:14 PM
Who determines if you have any ability? Who determines if you are male or female?
1. The lord of light
2. The many-faced god
Post by: star seed 7 on May 17, 2016, 04:07:46 PM
So, despite people in both worlds explaining supernatural events by godly intervention, and despite neither population of either world claiming magic exists independent of gods, you're going to say it's useless to compare the two because magic exists there and not here?
This is nonsense, try again
Post by: catastrophe on May 17, 2016, 04:19:18 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 17, 2016, 04:23:35 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 17, 2016, 04:26:20 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 17, 2016, 04:29:23 PM
Post by: asava on May 17, 2016, 04:38:57 PM
I mean, I can't think of anything the many-faced god has done that could not have also been accomplished by a mixture of poison, hallucinogens, and some elbow grease.
What about that face changing ability?
elbow grease
Yep. They are actual faces they apparently rip off of people, so where is the divine intervention there? Ever seen "quick change" magicians?
How did they rip the faces off of people who were not dead and not there? Also, seems like they re-use faces a lot. How do they preserve them between uses?
I thought they got all the faces from that hall? If you're saying they can impersonate someone who is still alive then I'd just say they have enough of a database by now to have a dead person's face who just looks like the alive person. As for the last question, you can tell they are sticklers for cleanliness, so that's easy.
Are you all seriously going to stand there and tell me that you have never watched Tom Cruise in the Mission Impossible movies? THERE'S YOUR rough ridin' ANSWER, YOU IDIOTS.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 17, 2016, 04:45:26 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 17, 2016, 04:45:41 PM
Read better
This ain't the book thread.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 17, 2016, 04:48:30 PM
So previous Starks were wargs. Maybe it was Lyanna who warged into Hodor and screwed him up.
Do you think Melisandre's mom was a witch 300 years ago or is she still alive?
Post by: asava on May 17, 2016, 04:49:21 PM
Top 5:
1. Based God
2. Young God
3. Godspeed You! Black Emperor
4. Charlamagne tha God
5. Godsmack
Seriously tho, the old gods are probably behind everything and will somehow make their presence very clearly known based off a couple themes in the show. People said there weren't White Walkers. They were wrong. People said that giants don't exist. They were wrong. People in Westeros have kind of nailed the whole "prove it" thing only to have things generally proven.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 17, 2016, 04:58:01 PM
I guess lib is dating that magical ability is genetic? Do Westeroes have an extra chromosome to determine if they can do magic?
So previous Starks were wargs. Maybe it was Lyanna who warged into Hodor and screwed him up.
Do you think Melisandre's mom was a witch 300 years ago or is she still alive?
What if lyanna warged into bran while bran was warged into hodor while hodor was warged into a horse
Post by: catastrophe on May 17, 2016, 05:03:50 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 17, 2016, 05:04:15 PM
I guess lib is dating that magical ability is genetic? Do Westeroes have an extra chromosome to determine if they can do magic?
So previous Starks were wargs. Maybe it was Lyanna who warged into Hodor and screwed him up.
Do you think Melisandre's mom was a witch 300 years ago or is she still alive?
What if lyanna warged into bran while bran was warged into hodor while hodor was warged into a horse
Lyanna died before Bran was born. How could she warg into him? I doesn't even make sense.
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 17, 2016, 05:10:27 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 17, 2016, 05:10:58 PM
I guess lib is dating that magical ability is genetic? Do Westeroes have an extra chromosome to determine if they can do magic?
So previous Starks were wargs. Maybe it was Lyanna who warged into Hodor and screwed him up.
Do you think Melisandre's mom was a witch 300 years ago or is she still alive?
What if lyanna warged into bran while bran was warged into hodor while hodor was warged into a horse
Lyanna died before Bran was born. How could she warg into him? I doesn't even make sense.
Bran is time traveling
Post by: sys on May 17, 2016, 05:21:55 PM
Lyanna died before Bran was born. How could she warg into him? I doesn't even make sense.
Bran is time traveling
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 17, 2016, 05:28:53 PM
I guess lib is dating that magical ability is genetic? Do Westeroes have an extra chromosome to determine if they can do magic?
So previous Starks were wargs. Maybe it was Lyanna who warged into Hodor and screwed him up.
Do you think Melisandre's mom was a witch 300 years ago or is she still alive?
What if lyanna warged into bran while bran was warged into hodor while hodor was warged into a horse
Lyanna died before Bran was born. How could she warg into him? I doesn't even make sense.
Bran is time traveling
Be can warg into people (maybe). They can't warg into him.
Post by: asava on May 17, 2016, 05:46:08 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 17, 2016, 05:53:58 PM
Says who?
They don't even know he is there. How can you warg into someone that you don't even know exists?
Post by: asava on May 17, 2016, 05:57:23 PM
Says who?
They don't even know he is there. How can you warg into someone that you don't even know exists?
Sure as hell looked like Ned knew he was there, and the white walkers know he is there (from what i can tell in the preview). Warging into a time traveler who is warging with the world is probably how Bran became Hodor tho.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 17, 2016, 08:56:07 PM
I need to stop opening this thread.
I know; lib and his crazy hypotheses.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 17, 2016, 11:57:32 PM
Post by: michigancat on May 18, 2016, 12:39:43 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on May 18, 2016, 08:37:46 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 18, 2016, 09:04:03 AM
I FINALLY GOT CAUGHT UP AND CAN OPEN THIS THREAD!!!!!!! :excited:
So which Hodor theory do you think is right?
Post by: Tobias on May 18, 2016, 09:07:28 AM
Post by: Tobias on May 18, 2016, 09:08:04 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 18, 2016, 09:08:59 AM
can someone please post a non-GRMM pic?
You mean a picture of someone that isn't GRRM?
Post by: star seed 7 on May 18, 2016, 09:10:31 AM
Post by: Tobias on May 18, 2016, 09:10:50 AM
Post by: michigancat on May 18, 2016, 09:11:14 AM
can someone please post a non-GRMM pic?I kind of enjoy it
Post by: michigancat on May 18, 2016, 09:12:43 AM
Post by: Tobias on May 18, 2016, 09:13:42 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 18, 2016, 09:14:07 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 18, 2016, 09:23:57 AM
https://www.facebook.com/zuck/videos/10102781200997701/
Post by: star seed 7 on May 18, 2016, 09:27:29 AM
Post by: mocat on May 18, 2016, 09:30:20 AM
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Post by: Asteriskhead on May 18, 2016, 09:34:41 AM
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ooooowwwww, is there a house mormont kit? they're one of my favorite sigils.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 18, 2016, 09:45:29 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 18, 2016, 09:50:30 AM
No, sorry
well, here i stand.
Post by: sys on May 18, 2016, 11:51:21 AM
Getting kind of sick of Jon Snow talking about being murdered. We get it, you got murdered. :rolleyes:
he is way too complainey for someone that didn't even stay dead.
Post by: Gooch on May 18, 2016, 11:53:17 AM
Yep, I think I have taken naps longer than the time he was "dead". Told you he is going to just sulk and not whip ass going forward.Getting kind of sick of Jon Snow talking about being murdered. We get it, you got murdered. :rolleyes:
he is way too complainey for someone that didn't even stay dead.
Post by: 'taterblast on May 18, 2016, 11:54:31 AM
I FINALLY GOT CAUGHT UP AND CAN OPEN THIS THREAD!!!!!!! :excited:
So which Hodor theory do you think is right?
oh i'm not going back and reading the thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 18, 2016, 11:56:32 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 18, 2016, 12:15:12 PM
Yep, I think I have taken naps longer than the time he was "dead". Told you he is going to just sulk and not whip ass going forward.Getting kind of sick of Jon Snow talking about being murdered. We get it, you got murdered. :rolleyes:
he is way too complainey for someone that didn't even stay dead.
He's only been resurrected for a few hours. At least give him a day to adjust before you start complaining.
Post by: asava on May 18, 2016, 12:29:33 PM
Getting kind of sick of Jon Snow talking about being murdered. We get it, you got murdered. :rolleyes:
he is way too complainey for someone that didn't even stay dead.
Emo gonna emo, guys.
Also, is there a House Seaworth kit? WOULD BUY.
Post by: HerrSonntag on May 18, 2016, 12:30:44 PM
The 3ER said "the past is already written; the ink is dry." One of those statements may be incorrect. Also, pretty clear that Bran is much stronger than 3ER.This excludes the possibility of predetermination/fate. In the original history Ned jerked around because he heard a voice cry out "Father" that he couldn't explain, it just took some 20 years for the event to come around full circle. Bran was predestined to have done that, even before he did it. The ink is not only dry on the past but on the future (or at least some of it).
Also, re: magic or gods, after you guys are done, can we discuss who would win in a fight, Batman or Superman? It seems like the direction you're headed.
Post by: asava on May 18, 2016, 12:33:14 PM
The 3ER said "the past is already written; the ink is dry." One of those statements may be incorrect. Also, pretty clear that Bran is much stronger than 3ER.This excludes the possibility of predetermination/fate. In the original history Ned jerked around because he heard a voice cry out "Father" that he couldn't explain, it just took some 20 years for the event to come around full circle. Bran was predestined to have done that, even before he did it. The ink is not only dry on the past but on the future (or at least some of it).
Also, re: magic or gods, after you guys are done, can we discuss who would win in a fight, Batman or Superman? It seems like the direction you're headed.
GMAFB. Superman wins and it's not even close. Probably because he follows the old gods tho. Batman for sure is a new gods type of guy.
Post by: asava on May 18, 2016, 12:33:31 PM
Post by: michigancat on May 18, 2016, 12:39:57 PM
Seriously though, "The Onions" is a great soccer team name.
Davos is the best person on the show.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 18, 2016, 02:44:15 PM
Post by: asava on May 18, 2016, 03:56:04 PM
Seriously though, "The Onions" is a great soccer team name.
Davos is the best person on the show.
It's official. The Onions will be playing in a 6 v 6 tourney later this year. Hope we can make Sir Davos proud.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 18, 2016, 04:04:12 PM
Did you guys notice Jon's man-bun in the last episode? :Yuck: :Yuck:
I didn't mind it. Prefer it over his hair down
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Post by: Tobias on May 20, 2016, 08:57:09 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 20, 2016, 08:58:28 AM
baby arya seems cool and jyc'y so far
:love:
Post by: Tobias on May 20, 2016, 08:59:20 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 20, 2016, 09:01:30 AM
Post by: mocat on May 20, 2016, 09:43:39 AM
baby arya seems cool and jyc'y so far
:love:
omg
Post by: Tobias on May 20, 2016, 09:45:42 AM
Post by: asava on May 20, 2016, 10:21:43 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 20, 2016, 10:27:42 AM
Post by: Tobias on May 20, 2016, 10:39:33 AM
Post by: asava on May 20, 2016, 10:43:07 AM
there was enough nudity and violence against kids that ms tobias unexpectedly took an interest. this may go at a slow pace until she drops out :frown:
Very low chance she drops out now.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 20, 2016, 11:31:01 AM
Post by: catastrophe on May 20, 2016, 11:48:05 AM
Just watch without her then re-watch when she wants to watch. There are always things that you miss the first time around.
Why do you want to destroy their marriage?
Post by: Tobias on May 20, 2016, 11:49:26 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 20, 2016, 12:04:11 PM
i respect ms tobias greatly, MG
Well obviously don't do it if she would be pissed that you watched without her.
Post by: sys on May 20, 2016, 12:06:13 PM
Post by: Tobias on May 20, 2016, 07:56:01 PM
Post by: sys on May 20, 2016, 08:32:56 PM
dire pups are super adorbs. can't wait for them to start judging people
it did seem like they would be fun, at the start.
Post by: Tobias on May 20, 2016, 08:33:22 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 20, 2016, 08:35:47 PM
Post by: sys on May 20, 2016, 08:36:26 PM
They are still fun
is dying fun?
Post by: Tobias on May 20, 2016, 10:42:18 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 20, 2016, 10:52:02 PM
Post by: mocat on May 20, 2016, 11:24:01 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 21, 2016, 12:15:48 AM
glad to hear she's still alive (of course she is)
the vast majority of them are.
Post by: Tobias on May 21, 2016, 12:46:23 AM
i'll have to think of good "not pennys boat" type episodes to watch with you
eff, please tell me she's more like penny and less like charlie
Post by: star seed 7 on May 22, 2016, 08:57:56 PM
Post by: TownieCat on May 22, 2016, 09:03:01 PM
Post by: TownieCat on May 22, 2016, 09:03:38 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 22, 2016, 09:07:30 PM
glad to hear she's still alive (of course she is)
the vast majority of them are.
welp
Post by: OK_Cat on May 22, 2016, 09:23:15 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 22, 2016, 09:48:47 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 22, 2016, 11:06:10 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 23, 2016, 12:05:50 AM
Only bad things:
1. Kingsmoot - dumb.
2. Crow's Eye - horrible miscast, the guy looks and talks like a fat loser.
3. Totally unnecessary, random, and bizarre dick shot. It's as if the show runners are getting tired of being criticized for all the T&A, so they just said "ok assholes, here's a penis! Happy now?" No, not happy. It's stupid. This show is too good for that kind of stupid.
4. Jon's a bit broody. Hey show runners - we got it, now stop making jokes to the audience.
Littlefinger's still evil as eff, right?
Post by: Tobias on May 23, 2016, 12:18:58 AM
Post by: stunted on May 23, 2016, 12:39:46 AM
Post by: catastrophe on May 23, 2016, 09:23:52 AM
And yes, no more gratuitous dick shots, please.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 23, 2016, 10:31:12 AM
Post by: asava on May 23, 2016, 10:37:00 AM
People who freak out over penises are just the worst
not once did they complain about boobs.
Post by: asava on May 23, 2016, 10:37:44 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 23, 2016, 10:38:45 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 23, 2016, 10:39:31 AM
on a different note, that ep confirmed that sansa is prego, right?
Certainly hinted at it. We might get to see some westerosi 'bortin
Post by: Tobias on May 23, 2016, 10:39:47 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on May 23, 2016, 11:02:36 AM
on a different note, that ep confirmed that sansa is prego, right?
i didn't take it that way during the episode, fwiw. i thought she meant he was just really rough with her and it messed her up pretty good.
it could certainly mean she's pregnant though.
Post by: TownieCat on May 23, 2016, 11:08:33 AM
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Post by: 'taterblast on May 23, 2016, 11:08:54 AM
Post by: catastrophe on May 23, 2016, 11:16:38 AM
People who freak out over penises are just the worst
Just saying it was dumb. It was not related to any plot (big deal, whatevs), and it was like a full frame shot. Plus, it's not like women are really clamoring for more dick shots in the show. I cannot think of who would have appreciated that waste of 3-5 seconds other than maybe a few gay males.
Post by: 'taterblast on May 23, 2016, 11:19:47 AM
People who freak out over penises are just the worst
Just saying it was dumb. It was not related to any plot (big deal, whatevs), and it was like a full frame shot. Plus, it's not like women are really clamoring for more dick shots in the show. I cannot think of who would have appreciated that waste of 3-5 seconds other than maybe a few gay males.
jesus, dude
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 23, 2016, 11:24:37 AM
People who freak out over penises are just the worst
Just saying it was dumb. It was not related to any plot (big deal, whatevs), and it was like a full frame shot. Plus, it's not like women are really clamoring for more dick shots in the show. I cannot think of who would have appreciated that waste of 3-5 seconds other than maybe a few gay males.
i thought it was hilarious.
go ahead and just abort this sock account, edn.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 23, 2016, 11:43:33 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 23, 2016, 11:45:37 AM
Post by: asava on May 23, 2016, 12:02:08 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 23, 2016, 12:11:33 PM
Some really misogynistic douchers up in here.
are you surprised?
Post by: catastrophe on May 23, 2016, 12:26:48 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 23, 2016, 12:31:10 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 23, 2016, 12:32:04 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on May 23, 2016, 12:38:27 PM
I'm still in mourning over hodor. So sad.
I hope we get a lot more bran. His story is a lot of fun.
Post by: Gooch on May 23, 2016, 12:39:16 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on May 23, 2016, 12:50:25 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 23, 2016, 12:59:10 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 23, 2016, 01:00:49 PM
I didn't quite follow how they created the white walkers. Like, did they ever actually do any good or just immediately started murdering everything? It seems like a super poorly thought out plan unless something happened that caused the white walkers to start going after everything.
no one knows the answer to those questions right now.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 23, 2016, 01:05:05 PM
1. Thank god no one was standing behind me at my desk when that dick shot happened.
2. So Hodors' condition did have something to do with warging, just not exactly how I thought. So Bran was warged into present day Hodor and the past at the same time and past-Wylis got sucked into it somehow.
3. So the Old Gods must be real if the Children had the power to create the Night's King. (P.S. I wonder if that guy was a Stark before they turned him.)
4. Was that direwolf Summer? He looked really white.
5. I did not get the reference to Sansa being pregnant, but now that you mention it maybe. I thought she was just saying that the physical trauma to her body was so bad that the pain of it is still there.
6. OMG why did Hodor have to die?????? :bawl:
Post by: TownieCat on May 23, 2016, 01:11:16 PM
Please stop talking about how weiners offend you so that this thread doesn't turn into something awful.Yeah, I've done a 180 on Bran. His story was the most boring part of the show prior to this season, but now it's my favorite story line.
I'm still in mourning over hodor. So sad.
I hope we get a lot more bran. His story is a lot of fun.
Post by: 'taterblast on May 23, 2016, 01:13:30 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 23, 2016, 01:14:53 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 23, 2016, 01:15:51 PM
Yeah, bran still sucks and is boring, he just happens to bewitnessingcausingcoolterrible stuff
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 23, 2016, 01:17:22 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 23, 2016, 01:18:08 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on May 23, 2016, 01:29:42 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 23, 2016, 01:44:05 PM
Lol that you believe a ton of this show but draw the line at time travel
For me it's right up there with "it was all just a dream." So yea, there's the line for me. Maybe Bran will go back and stop the red wedding from happening, or murder the Mad King as a baby. What then? GMAFB
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 23, 2016, 01:45:49 PM
Lol that you believe a ton of this show but draw the line at time travel
For me it's right up there with "it was all just a dream." So yea, there's the line for me. Maybe Bran will go back and stop the red wedding from happening, or murder the Mad King as a baby. What then? GMAFB
I don't think Bran is going to cause things to happen that didn't happen. I think it is going to be revealed that he was the cause of things that did happen (like what happened to Hodor). Like maybe he will cause the Mad King to go mad.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 23, 2016, 01:51:06 PM
Lol that you believe a ton of this show but draw the line at time travel
For me it's right up there with "it was all just a dream." So yea, there's the line for me. Maybe Bran will go back and stop the red wedding from happening, or murder the Mad King as a baby. What then? GMAFB
I don't think Bran is going to cause things to happen that didn't happen. I think it is going to be revealed that he was the cause of things that did happen (like what happened to Hodor). Like maybe he will cause the Mad King to go mad.
What if Bran was controlling Jaime Lannister the day Jaime pushed Bran off the tower? Bran paralyzed himself! :surprised: and :fatty: at Bran wanting to get some Cersei via Jaime.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 23, 2016, 01:57:02 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 23, 2016, 01:59:50 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 23, 2016, 02:05:27 PM
Lol that you believe a ton of this show but draw the line at time travel
For me it's right up there with "it was all just a dream." So yea, there's the line for me. Maybe Bran will go back and stop the red wedding from happening, or murder the Mad King as a baby. What then? GMAFB
I don't think Bran is going to cause things to happen that didn't happen. I think it is going to be revealed that he was the cause of things that did happen (like what happened to Hodor). Like maybe he will cause the Mad King to go mad.
That's what makes it stupid though. If those things didn't actually happen in the past but then happened as a result of future Bran's intervention then it's not true that it "already happened." It's an alternate universe. There has to be some universe where future Bran didn't intervene because he was only present Bran. In that universe the future would have to look different than what this one looks like.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 23, 2016, 02:10:07 PM
4. Was that direwolf Summer? He looked really white.
6. OMG why did Hodor have to die?????? :bawl:
I thought it was Ghost at first too.
Hodor :(. So is it time for Bran to fly? Because like how the hell is he getting out of there without legs or Hodor?
I think Benjen Stark is finally going to reappear in some form to save the day. Because Meera is not getting very far with that travois.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 23, 2016, 02:23:52 PM
4. Was that direwolf Summer? He looked really white.
6. OMG why did Hodor have to die?????? :bawl:
I thought it was Ghost at first too.
Hodor :(. So is it time for Bran to fly? Because like how the hell is he getting out of there without legs or Hodor?
I think Benjen Stark is finally going to reappear in some form to save the day. Because Meera is not getting very far with that travois.
Coldhands!
Post by: asava on May 23, 2016, 03:59:13 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 23, 2016, 04:13:46 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 23, 2016, 04:14:17 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 23, 2016, 04:34:37 PM
Post by: michigancat on May 23, 2016, 08:59:18 PM
Also, was bran warged into hodor the whole time? Or did he just eff him up for the rest of his life for that one moment?
Post by: wetwillie on May 23, 2016, 09:09:44 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 23, 2016, 09:09:57 PM
Post by: TownieCat on May 23, 2016, 09:16:11 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 23, 2016, 09:17:48 PM
Arya watching a reenactment of her dad getting his head chopped off was kind of lost in the drama of the rest of the episode.
Yeah if she was really no one then it wouldn't have bothered her.
Post by: TownieCat on May 23, 2016, 09:23:29 PM
I thought it was interesting how reluctant she was to kill the Cersei character, considering Cersei is on her hit list.Arya watching a reenactment of her dad getting his head chopped off was kind of lost in the drama of the rest of the episode.
Yeah if she was really no one then it wouldn't have bothered her.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 23, 2016, 09:29:51 PM
I don't even think Bran was warged into young Wylis. I think he was warged into old Hodor and just the past vision thing in general. And then that caused something to get crossed....
It looked like old hodor snapped out of his simple mindedness. His eyes went worg white but then went back to normal a second later and then started whomping ass. So I'm not sure bran was controlling old hodor at the end, he might have just been watching the past
Post by: catastrophe on May 23, 2016, 09:50:59 PM
Which brings me to the other thing I hate about this whole time travel situation. Bran warged into Hodor because Hodor was basically incapacitated out of fear (presumably because of the whole "hold the door" incident), but he wouldn't have been that way if Bran hadn't warged into him, which Bran wouldn't have had to do if Hodor hadn't been that way.
But I'm not that pissed about the scene itself because I thought it was beautifully done.
Post by: michigancat on May 23, 2016, 10:05:46 PM
Surprised mich hasn't brought up the fart machine at the theatre yet...It seemed appropriate for that type of show. They weren't exactly producing an HBO drama.
Post by: ednksu on May 23, 2016, 11:51:42 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 24, 2016, 08:12:24 AM
I don't even think Bran was warged into young Wylis. I think he was warged into old Hodor and just the past vision thing in general. And then that caused something to get crossed....
It looked like old hodor snapped out of his simple mindedness. His eyes went worg white but then went back to normal a second later and then started whomping ass. So I'm not sure bran was controlling old hodor at the end, he might have just been watching the past
I am pretty sure Bran was warging into Hodor while Hodor was fighting off the wights. It was exactly the same as when he warged into Hodor at Craster's Keep - Hodor's eyes went white for a second then back to normal except not simple-minded.
https://youtu.be/qlSZZdDrKFw?t=57s
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 24, 2016, 08:27:14 AM
Do you guys want to hear another theory about how Hodor got to be Hodor?
In Bran's visions, he is actually time travelling (as evidenced by Ned hearing him) and at some point he is going to warg into young Wylis to try to warn his family of the upcoming danger. But for some reason (warging into people is bad, or warging across time is bad) that is going to screw up Wylis' mind and he is going to turn into Hodor...maybe Bran says the word "Hodor" during the warging debacle. :dunno:
So, Hodor helps Bran get to the tree where Bran learns to time travel, and while time traveling he wargs into Wylis and turns Wylis into Hodor, who later helps Bran get to the tree to learn to time travel?
Come on, guys, he just got kicked in the head by a horse...
It's got to me more complicated than that or they wouldn't have made such a big deal about it.
Also, what do you guys think of the idea that when the Mad King was hearing voices it was actually Bran talking in one of his time traveling visions?
Why the eff would Bran begat the very circumstance that eventually caused almost all of his family members to die?
Well he isn't going realize what he is doing when he does it. He is going to be trying to warn someone of something.
So maybe Bran is going to think he can stop all this by going back in time and warning King Aerys that the White Walkers are coming and that they need to send word North to burn all the bodies.......but the king just hears "burn them all" and starts burning people alive (like Ned's father & brother).
Post by: star seed 7 on May 24, 2016, 08:35:49 AM
I don't even think Bran was warged into young Wylis. I think he was warged into old Hodor and just the past vision thing in general. And then that caused something to get crossed....
It looked like old hodor snapped out of his simple mindedness. His eyes went worg white but then went back to normal a second later and then started whomping ass. So I'm not sure bran was controlling old hodor at the end, he might have just been watching the past
I am pretty sure Bran was warging into Hodor while Hodor was fighting off the wights. It was exactly the same as when he warged into Hodor at Craster's Keep - Hodor's eyes went white for a second then back to normal except not simple-minded.
https://youtu.be/qlSZZdDrKFw?t=57s
Ok
Post by: asava on May 24, 2016, 08:37:31 AM
I don't even think Bran was warged into young Wylis. I think he was warged into old Hodor and just the past vision thing in general. And then that caused something to get crossed....
It looked like old hodor snapped out of his simple mindedness. His eyes went worg white but then went back to normal a second later and then started whomping ass. So I'm not sure bran was controlling old hodor at the end, he might have just been watching the past
I am pretty sure Bran was warging into Hodor while Hodor was fighting off the wights. It was exactly the same as when he warged into Hodor at Craster's Keep - Hodor's eyes went white for a second then back to normal except not simple-minded.
https://youtu.be/qlSZZdDrKFw?t=57s
I think this is right. I'm pretty sure that Bran's presence in the past and future caused him to warg into not only present day Hodor but also Wylis, making Wylis aware and live his own future death.
Really weird though. Why didn't he just stopped his vision quest and returned to the present day danger?
Post by: asava on May 24, 2016, 08:38:33 AM
Do you guys want to hear another theory about how Hodor got to be Hodor?
In Bran's visions, he is actually time travelling (as evidenced by Ned hearing him) and at some point he is going to warg into young Wylis to try to warn his family of the upcoming danger. But for some reason (warging into people is bad, or warging across time is bad) that is going to screw up Wylis' mind and he is going to turn into Hodor...maybe Bran says the word "Hodor" during the warging debacle. :dunno:
So, Hodor helps Bran get to the tree where Bran learns to time travel, and while time traveling he wargs into Wylis and turns Wylis into Hodor, who later helps Bran get to the tree to learn to time travel?
Come on, guys, he just got kicked in the head by a horse...
It's got to me more complicated than that or they wouldn't have made such a big deal about it.
Also, what do you guys think of the idea that when the Mad King was hearing voices it was actually Bran talking in one of his time traveling visions?
Why the eff would Bran begat the very circumstance that eventually caused almost all of his family members to die?
Well he isn't going realize what he is doing when he does it. He is going to be trying to warn someone of something.
So maybe Bran is going to think he can stop all this by going back in time and warning King Aerys that the White Walkers are coming and that they need to send word North to burn all the bodies.......but the king just hears "burn them all" and starts burning people alive (like Ned's father & brother).
I think this is way more likely.
Post by: TownieCat on May 24, 2016, 08:40:39 AM
I don't even think Bran was warged into young Wylis. I think he was warged into old Hodor and just the past vision thing in general. And then that caused something to get crossed....
It looked like old hodor snapped out of his simple mindedness. His eyes went worg white but then went back to normal a second later and then started whomping ass. So I'm not sure bran was controlling old hodor at the end, he might have just been watching the past
I am pretty sure Bran was warging into Hodor while Hodor was fighting off the wights. It was exactly the same as when he warged into Hodor at Craster's Keep - Hodor's eyes went white for a second then back to normal except not simple-minded.
https://youtu.be/qlSZZdDrKFw?t=57s
I think this is right. I'm pretty sure that Bran's presence in the past and future caused him to warg into not only present day Hodor but also Wylis, making Wylis aware and live his own future death.
Really weird though. Why didn't he just stopped his vision quest and returned to the present day danger?
Because he is relatively new at this whole warging thing and not ready to handle it yet? :dunno:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 24, 2016, 08:41:28 AM
Do you guys want to hear another theory about how Hodor got to be Hodor?
In Bran's visions, he is actually time travelling (as evidenced by Ned hearing him) and at some point he is going to warg into young Wylis to try to warn his family of the upcoming danger. But for some reason (warging into people is bad, or warging across time is bad) that is going to screw up Wylis' mind and he is going to turn into Hodor...maybe Bran says the word "Hodor" during the warging debacle. :dunno:
Do you guys notice how very similar this is to what actually happened? Maybe you should put more weight in my theories.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 24, 2016, 08:42:48 AM
Because he is relatively new at this whole warging thing and not ready to handle it yet? :dunno:
Yes, this. And by the time he realized what was happening he was like stuck and couldn't get out before Wylis's mind was screwed up.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 24, 2016, 08:43:53 AM
Do you guys want to hear another theory about how Hodor got to be Hodor?
In Bran's visions, he is actually time travelling (as evidenced by Ned hearing him) and at some point he is going to warg into young Wylis to try to warn his family of the upcoming danger. But for some reason (warging into people is bad, or warging across time is bad) that is going to screw up Wylis' mind and he is going to turn into Hodor...maybe Bran says the word "Hodor" during the warging debacle. :dunno:
Do you guys notice how very similar this is to what actually happened? Maybe you should put more weight in my theories.
You dismissed my time traveling warging theory, smdh.
Also I think the mad king was just targ mad
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 24, 2016, 08:45:37 AM
Do you guys want to hear another theory about how Hodor got to be Hodor?
In Bran's visions, he is actually time travelling (as evidenced by Ned hearing him) and at some point he is going to warg into young Wylis to try to warn his family of the upcoming danger. But for some reason (warging into people is bad, or warging across time is bad) that is going to screw up Wylis' mind and he is going to turn into Hodor...maybe Bran says the word "Hodor" during the warging debacle. :dunno:
Do you guys notice how very similar this is to what actually happened? Maybe you should put more weight in my theories.
You had another theory where Hodor was the warg and he warged into a horse smdh.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 24, 2016, 08:48:44 AM
You dismissed my time traveling warging theory, smdh.
You had another theory where Hodor was the warg and he warged into a horse smdh.
I like to present all the possibilities for discussion.
Post by: michigancat on May 24, 2016, 09:10:52 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 24, 2016, 09:11:39 AM
How quickly before the zombies catch bran? I mean they got like a minute head start and those zombies are fast.
Pretty quick unless Coldhands comes to help him.
Post by: sys on May 24, 2016, 09:14:44 AM
How quickly before the zombies catch bran? I mean they got like a minute head start and those zombies are fast.
i hate the zombies, at least on the show. so stupid. love the walkers though. they should have just had walkers with no zombies.
Post by: michigancat on May 24, 2016, 09:16:36 AM
I suppose it's also possible that Hodor held them longer than was shown. But not likely because those zombies are a feisty bunch.How quickly before the zombies catch bran? I mean they got like a minute head start and those zombies are fast.
Pretty quick unless Coldhands comes to help him.
Also, how stupid are the rough ridin' rules of the cave? Oh, we're 100% safe here eating moss until the white dude touches you in a vision and then he can be there in like five minutes and have free reign of the place? GMAFB
Post by: sys on May 24, 2016, 09:17:19 AM
Post by: michigancat on May 24, 2016, 09:17:26 AM
Yeah. They don't seem to fit. I think they belong in a different show every time I see them.How quickly before the zombies catch bran? I mean they got like a minute head start and those zombies are fast.
i hate the zombies, at least on the show. so stupid. love the walkers though. they should have just had walkers with no zombies.
Post by: sys on May 24, 2016, 09:19:50 AM
how stupid are the rough ridin' rules of the cave? Oh, we're 100% safe here eating moss until the white dude touches you in a vision and then he can be there in like five minutes and have free reign of the place? GMAFB
book grrm did a really good job with limiting magic and binding it with rules to make it compelling. the show writers have no idea what they're doing. it's just "hmm, we need x for plot device y, welp, magic."
Post by: michigancat on May 24, 2016, 09:21:37 AM
how stupid are the rough ridin' rules of the cave? Oh, we're 100% safe here eating moss until the white dude touches you in a vision and then he can be there in like five minutes and have free reign of the place? GMAFB
book grrm did a really good job with limiting magic and binding it with rules to make it compelling. the show writers have no idea what they're doing. it's just "hmm, we need x for plot device y, welp, magic."
The book did a great job of making me think to myself, "oh crap, was that magic?!? Damn!"
Post by: catastrophe on May 24, 2016, 09:21:45 AM
So maybe Bran is going to think he can stop all this by going back in time and warning King Aerys that the White Walkers are coming and that they need to send word North to burn all the bodies.......but the king just hears "burn them all" and starts burning people alive (like Ned's father & brother).
I really hope this isn't the direction they go, just having Bran Mr. Magoo everything in the past which screws up the future where he feels compelled to go back in time to fix everything he screwed up in the first place.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 24, 2016, 09:37:06 AM
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KAqa9wwODqaFkegqf8Si6fmuE55-M-GMIj0ZmcKUFxs/edit
It is about 650 miles from Winterfell to Castle Black, so it should have taken Sansa 16 days (even if she was pushing her horse for 10 hours per day) to get there.
The distance from the Vale to Mole's Town is about twice that (plus over mountains) and Little finger was traveling with a larger party. (Plus, did he stop in the Riverlands to find out about the Blackfish?) So it should have taken him at least 36 days to get there, and that is assuming he had replacement horses and could therefore travel 12 hours per day.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 24, 2016, 09:40:55 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 24, 2016, 09:43:23 AM
I don't even think Bran was warged into young Wylis. I think he was warged into old Hodor and just the past vision thing in general. And then that caused something to get crossed....
It looked like old hodor snapped out of his simple mindedness. His eyes went worg white but then went back to normal a second later and then started whomping ass. So I'm not sure bran was controlling old hodor at the end, he might have just been watching the past
I am pretty sure Bran was warging into Hodor while Hodor was fighting off the wights. It was exactly the same as when he warged into Hodor at Craster's Keep - Hodor's eyes went white for a second then back to normal except not simple-minded.
https://youtu.be/qlSZZdDrKFw?t=57s
I think this is right. I'm pretty sure that Bran's presence in the past and future caused him to warg into not only present day Hodor but also Wylis, making Wylis aware and live his own future death.
Really weird though. Why didn't he just stopped his vision quest and returned to the present day danger?
Because he had to mess up Wylis - that's the time loop thing. If Bran had just left the dream and warg'd normally into present day Hodor, the event would not have occurred to turn Wylis into Hodor in the first place.
It is pretty clear that the 3ER knew what was going to happen, which is why he urged Bran to do what Meera said instead of shoving Bran out of the dream to do it normally. Somehow, Bran's warg'ing of present-day Hodor from the dream only worked because Wylis was in the dream to act as a conduit, which mumped Wylis up and turned him into Hodor.
The problem with the time loop is the bootstrap paradox. If each event causes the other event, then how could it have ever started? It is illustrated most simply with the chicken/egg question. But as others have said, I'm not that annoyed by an impossible time loop because it was beautifully executed.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 24, 2016, 09:48:57 AM
I thought the wall was only 2 day ride from winterfell. Also kings landing to winterfell is a month for king Robert in the first episode so I doubt the vale to winterfell is longer
But the Vale has a bunch of mountains to go over, plus you have to go around a bunch of water (The Bite?), or else go over the water but then that means you have to get ships or a ferry or something which would delay your travels.
Where are you getting the 2 days ride thing?
Post by: star seed 7 on May 24, 2016, 10:20:47 AM
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Post by: michigancat on May 24, 2016, 11:23:53 AM
Post by: sys on May 24, 2016, 11:28:41 AM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 24, 2016, 01:15:33 PM
in addition to the whole time travel deus ex machina, i didn't like that everyone was all "hold the door, hodor" a thousand times when he held the door. like what an bad person thing to do. trick/force some Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) giant into killing himself to buy you a couple of minutes. the child that blew up, the ravenman and the wolf all willingly sacrificed themselves and no one was egging them on. but with hodor it was all, "come on hodor, hold the door. do it, big man, hold the rough ridin' door." they weren't even guilty or conflicted about it.
It isn't clear to me if Bran left Hodor's mind toward the end. Maybe he did and it was actually Hodor himself holding the door. Not sure. BUT we all know that Hodor would have done anything to save Bran, so he would have been willing to sacrifice himself. Also, by saving Bran he basically gave his life to save all of Westeros since Bran is going to eventually beat the White Walkers.
Post by: halfEmpty on May 24, 2016, 01:23:16 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 24, 2016, 01:24:38 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 24, 2016, 01:28:06 PM
Anyone else think Cersei's plan to have the Tyrell's move their army in against the sect is entirely to have said army then destroyed? She's always scheming against everyone else, so I see this as her likely end game with them. I realize this was not the last episode, but whatever, I just watched 5 and a half seasons in 2 weeks, so everything runs together.
I think the main benefit of bringing in the Tyrells is to destroy the Faith Militant. That's hurdle number 1. Any damage to the Tyrells is just gravy. But I still think Cersei is getting her trial by combat.
Post by: Dub on May 24, 2016, 01:34:40 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 24, 2016, 01:49:53 PM
Was it just me or did it look like the White Walkers catch up with Bran immediately in next weeks preview?
I don't know how they possibly wouldn't catch up when you just have a teenage girl pulling a crippled boy through the freezing cold. Someone else has to jump in there.
Post by: HerrSonntag on May 24, 2016, 01:54:38 PM
I thought it took jon/tyrion 2 days to get to the wall in s1/book 1. Maybe it was 2 weeksGRRM has said Westeros is supposed to be about the size of South America. If you project Westeros over South America and measure a straight line from Winterfell to the Wall its about 1000 miles. So, its a hike
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 24, 2016, 02:03:46 PM
what is shown on each episode is not necessarily happening simultaneously
Yeah, but when people are in the same place and/or know about events that happened in other places, they must be happening at the same time.
Littlefinger told Robin that Sansa had escaped, when they were in the Vale. Then he shows up to meet Sansa at Mole's Town. Those two times must have been synced up. So are you saying that Sansa has been sitting around Winterfell for 3-4 weeks talking about what to do?
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 24, 2016, 02:05:43 PM
Post by: michigancat on May 24, 2016, 02:08:59 PM
what is shown on each episode is not necessarily happening simultaneously
Yeah, but when people are in the same place and/or know about events that happened in other places, they must be happening at the same time.
Littlefinger told Robin that Sansa had escaped, when they were in the Vale. Then he shows up to meet Sansa at Mole's Town. Those two times must have been synced up. So are you saying that Sansa has been sitting around Winterfell for 3-4 weeks talking about what to do?
I'm saying those times aren't necessarily synced up. And keep in mind that sansa did have time to make a dress and that scarf thing for Jon.
Post by: sys on May 24, 2016, 02:10:25 PM
So are you saying that Sansa has been sitting around Winterfell for 3-4 weeks talking about what to do?
what do you want, a few episodes of horses trudging through forests? or just a quick shot of an hourglass between scenes?
like of all the myriad logical flaws this season is committing, the fact that time must be passing without comment is the absolute least.
Post by: sys on May 24, 2016, 02:12:17 PM
we all know that Hodor would have done anything to save Bran, so he would have been willing to sacrifice himself. Also, by saving Bran he basically gave his life to save all of Westeros since Bran is going to eventually beat the White Walkers.
yes, minor characters do tend to selflessly sacrifice themselves to advance the plot in lazy writing.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 24, 2016, 02:17:29 PM
what is shown on each episode is not necessarily happening simultaneously
Yeah, but when people are in the same place and/or know about events that happened in other places, they must be happening at the same time.
Littlefinger told Robin that Sansa had escaped, when they were in the Vale. Then he shows up to meet Sansa at Mole's Town. Those two times must have been synced up. So are you saying that Sansa has been sitting around Winterfell for 3-4 weeks talking about what to do?
I'm saying those times aren't necessarily synced up. And keep in mind that sansa did have time to make a dress and that scarf thing for Jon.
They don't sync up? So, by magic, Sansa and Littlefinger just appeared in the same place?
OK, maybe Sansa was there for a few weeks. I forgot about the stuff she made.
Post by: halfEmpty on May 24, 2016, 02:23:57 PM
Anyone else think Cersei's plan to have the Tyrell's move their army in against the sect is entirely to have said army then destroyed? She's always scheming against everyone else, so I see this as her likely end game with them. I realize this was not the last episode, but whatever, I just watched 5 and a half seasons in 2 weeks, so everything runs together.
I think the main benefit of bringing in the Tyrells is to destroy the Faith Militant. That's hurdle number 1. Any damage to the Tyrells is just gravy. But I still think Cersei is getting her trial by combat.
I think when Tommen had his little chat with the High Sparrow and then told mommy afterwards, the High Sparrow might have told him about Loras' confession(which may include the Tyrell's plot to kill Joffrey). Mommy then comes in, has the Tyrell's basically start a war with the people of the city who laughed at her, the Faith, and the Tyrell's and tries to kill off 3 birds without throwing a stone. But we shall see. The High sparrow is mentioned in the episode 6 and 7 preview text, so he sticks around at least a little while longer.
She may get her trial, but in the end, even though most would say the prophecy would likely point to Tyrion killing her, I think Jaime ends up doing the deed since he is technically her younger brother by a few minutes.
Post by: sys on May 24, 2016, 02:34:49 PM
Post by: michigancat on May 24, 2016, 02:49:57 PM
Post by: sys on May 24, 2016, 02:55:49 PM
the whole faith militant thing is stupid. I must have been not been paying very good attention to when they got so much power because it just seemed like *poof* this guy wearing a burlap sack is rough ridin' running crap and there's nothing the goddam king's army can do about it.
to be fair, the army prolly could do something about it, but the super persuadable king that no one else in the world listens to asked the hand not to do anything.
i agree w. the suddenness of their appearance, but really that's kind of everything in the show isn't it? i'll give them some leeway on needing to compress.
Post by: CNS on May 24, 2016, 03:25:19 PM
Anyone else think Cersei's plan to have the Tyrell's move their army in against the sect is entirely to have said army then destroyed? She's always scheming against everyone else, so I see this as her likely end game with them. I realize this was not the last episode, but whatever, I just watched 5 and a half seasons in 2 weeks, so everything runs together.
I think the main benefit of bringing in the Tyrells is to destroy the Faith Militant. That's hurdle number 1. Any damage to the Tyrells is just gravy. But I still think Cersei is getting her trial by combat.
Cersei has to have something else in mind as well. I mean, I am not a plotting royal and I think it a top 2 or 3 bad idea to invite someone else's army into your city and have them get all worked up and win a small battle and stuff. I mean, she may invite the Tyrells to just take the thrown by force.
Post by: asava on May 24, 2016, 03:29:27 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 24, 2016, 03:30:57 PM
the whole faith militant thing is stupid. I must have been not been paying very good attention to when they got so much power because it just seemed like *poof* this guy wearing a burlap sack is rough ridin' running crap and there's nothing the goddam king's army can do about it.
to be fair, the army prolly could do something about it, but the super persuadable king that no one else in the world listens to asked the hand not to do anything.
i agree w. the suddenness of their appearance, but really that's kind of everything in the show isn't it? i'll give them some leeway on needing to compress.
Well Cersei helped the Faith Militant gain power because she thought it was going to help her oust Margaery.
Post by: CNS on May 24, 2016, 05:04:30 PM
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Post by: catastrophe on May 24, 2016, 05:40:06 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 24, 2016, 09:31:54 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 25, 2016, 12:26:14 PM
asava, you're the only one who can post in here until further notice.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 25, 2016, 12:28:42 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 25, 2016, 12:28:55 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 25, 2016, 12:29:19 PM
PMShead:got::tbt:baseball
we are not friends right now.
Post by: catastrophe on May 25, 2016, 12:31:04 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 25, 2016, 12:31:31 PM
Very strange someone would click on this discussion and expect anything other than drivel.
shut the eff up, edn.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 25, 2016, 12:33:54 PM
PMShead:got::tbt:baseball
we are not friends right now.
It is known
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 25, 2016, 12:34:50 PM
PMShead:got::tbt:baseball
we are not friends right now.
It is known
sys, fetch me a block.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 25, 2016, 12:37:58 PM
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Post by: CNS on May 25, 2016, 02:52:36 PM
Post by: asava on May 25, 2016, 05:20:40 PM
Would you rough ridin' people just go read a bbs dedicated to this crap, so I can stop reading your drivel.
asava, you're the only one who can post in here until further notice.
GODDAMN RIGHT!
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Post by: michigancat on May 25, 2016, 05:25:14 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on May 25, 2016, 08:33:28 PM
Post by: ednksu on May 26, 2016, 07:49:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI0ib1NErqg
1:18 or so you see that guy people are claiming is Coldhands.
It also looks like someone might have chopped the IMDB credits.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1152798/?ref_=nv_sr_2
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 26, 2016, 08:19:31 AM
Post by: ednksu on May 26, 2016, 08:44:45 AM
What is going on with the IMDB? Did it used to say that he was going to be in more episodes or what?that's what I mean someone might have chopped in another line. Everything I've seen on imdb doesn't show that "spoiler."
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 26, 2016, 09:06:39 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 26, 2016, 09:14:05 AM
Post by: catastrophe on May 26, 2016, 09:24:10 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 26, 2016, 09:36:31 AM
So is the going theory that Mormont finds Sir Davos looking for a cure, which brings Dany and John Snow together?
That's a good theory. I guess he doesn't know that Stannis is dead yet (who would know the cure).
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 26, 2016, 09:36:54 AM
So is the going theory that Mormont finds Sir Davos looking for a cure, which brings Dany and John Snow together?
I don't want to spoil things for you, but it's going to involve lots of Sand Snakes.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 26, 2016, 09:41:49 AM
So is the going theory that Mormont finds Sir Davos looking for a cure, which brings Dany and John Snow together?
That's a good theory. I guess he doesn't know that Stannis is dead yet (who would know the cure).
I don't think Stannis ever had a cure. Greyscale is disfiguring but not always lethal in children.
Post by: 'taterblast on May 26, 2016, 09:45:07 AM
Post by: catastrophe on May 26, 2016, 09:47:48 AM
So is the going theory that Mormont finds Sir Davos looking for a cure, which brings Dany and John Snow together?
That's a good theory. I guess he doesn't know that Stannis is dead yet (who would know the cure).
I don't think Stannis ever had a cure. Greyscale is disfiguring but not always lethal in children.
I'm pretty sure I remember Stannis talking to his daughter about how they kept looking and eventually found a cure for her deal.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 26, 2016, 09:47:58 AM
i think i'm definitely going to re-watch everything once s6 is over. i really had no idea what was going on when i watched the first few seasons.I don't know if I have the patience for that. I love GoT, but it's so slow.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 26, 2016, 09:50:11 AM
So is the going theory that Mormont finds Sir Davos looking for a cure, which brings Dany and John Snow together?
That's a good theory. I guess he doesn't know that Stannis is dead yet (who would know the cure).
I don't think Stannis ever had a cure. Greyscale is disfiguring but not always lethal in children.
I'm pretty sure I remember Stannis talking to his daughter about how they kept looking and eventually found a cure for her deal.
Yes, I specifically remember him talking about finding the cure.
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 26, 2016, 09:57:10 AM
So is the going theory that Mormont finds Sir Davos looking for a cure, which brings Dany and John Snow together?
That's a good theory. I guess he doesn't know that Stannis is dead yet (who would know the cure).
I think the Bear will head to Oldtown looking for a cure, where he will meet The Slayer eventually, which will tie in Jon and Dany's storylines.
I don't think The Onion Knight leaves the North anytime soon.
Post by: ednksu on May 26, 2016, 10:42:02 AM
According to IMDB that Joseph guy played Benjen in 2011 (season 1) and that is it (nothing recent) so I am confused as to what the confusion is. There is no indication, as far as I can tell, that he is reprising his role...so you didn't look at the imgur link, got it.
Post by: asava on May 26, 2016, 11:25:20 AM
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Post by: star seed 7 on May 26, 2016, 11:32:09 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 26, 2016, 12:34:09 PM
According to IMDB that Joseph guy played Benjen in 2011 (season 1) and that is it (nothing recent) so I am confused as to what the confusion is. There is no indication, as far as I can tell, that he is reprising his role...so you didn't look at the imgur link, got it.
Oh, you are right. I guess I was distracted by the embedded video and didn't even see that link. That's why I asked the question about whether there had been something on IMDB that got removed, and then your reply was so cryptic that I couldn't understand what you were saying.
Post by: TownieCat on May 26, 2016, 12:55:00 PM
He'sShe's about to driveherhim all the way to tarth
FYP
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 26, 2016, 02:49:49 PM
So is the going theory that Mormont finds Sir Davos looking for a cure, which brings Dany and John Snow together?
That's a good theory. I guess he doesn't know that Stannis is dead yet (who would know the cure).
I don't think Stannis ever had a cure. Greyscale is disfiguring but not always lethal in children.
I'm pretty sure I remember Stannis talking to his daughter about how they kept looking and eventually found a cure for her deal.
Yes, I specifically remember him talking about finding the cure.
Right - but that doesn't actually mean he found a cure. It was a nice story to tell his child, whom he loved (before putting her to the torch a few epis later). Maybe this is getting too far into book territory and hasn't been explained in the show, but I'm pretty sure grayscale is not necessarily a death sentence for kids.
Post by: ednksu on May 26, 2016, 09:30:11 PM
According to IMDB that Joseph guy played Benjen in 2011 (season 1) and that is it (nothing recent) so I am confused as to what the confusion is. There is no indication, as far as I can tell, that he is reprising his role...so you didn't look at the imgur link, got it.
Oh, you are right. I guess I was distracted by the embedded video and didn't even see that link. That's why I asked the question about whether there had been something on IMDB that got removed, and then your reply was so cryptic that I couldn't understand what you were saying.
Understood. I'll try to be more clear to decrease confusion/cross talk in this good thread.
Post by: catastrophe on May 26, 2016, 10:36:53 PM
Post by: Tobias on May 26, 2016, 11:31:16 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 27, 2016, 12:44:04 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 27, 2016, 10:20:41 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 27, 2016, 10:23:16 AM
So I guess these theories about Bran going back and causing other things to happen, like the Mad King going mad, are gaining steam. That's going to really suck if true. One time loop was enough.
Yes, I agree
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 27, 2016, 10:30:40 AM
So I guess these theories about Bran going back and causing other things to happen, like the Mad King going mad, are gaining steam. That's going to really suck if true. One time loop was enough.
quit watching it then?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 10:32:49 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 27, 2016, 10:34:20 AM
Guys, I figured it out. Hodor the name, was code for "hold door", because that's how he saved bran and died. :thumbs:
Great job
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 10:34:59 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 27, 2016, 10:35:42 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 27, 2016, 10:36:31 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 27, 2016, 10:36:49 AM
So I guess these theories about Bran going back and causing other things to happen, like the Mad King going mad, are gaining steam. That's going to really suck if true. One time loop was enough.
I think Bran's powers will be limited in the south. No weirwood trees there.
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 27, 2016, 10:39:29 AM
So I guess these theories about Bran going back and causing other things to happen, like the Mad King going mad, are gaining steam. That's going to really suck if true. One time loop was enough.
I think Bran's powers will be limited in the south, during the current time period. No weirwood trees there now.
FIFY
Also, 3ER came before Bran. We have no idea what he did.
Post by: michigancat on May 27, 2016, 10:41:13 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 27, 2016, 10:44:14 AM
So I guess these theories about Bran going back and causing other things to happen, like the Mad King going mad, are gaining steam. That's going to really suck if true. One time loop was enough.
I think Bran's powers will be limited in the south, during the current time period. No weirwood trees there now.
FIFY
Also, 3ER came before Bran. We have no idea what he did.
Yeah, I think the Bran the Builder theories about Bran doing things that happened thousands of years ago probably will end up happening. I just don't seem him making the Mad King go mad unless it happens when he's visiting Winterfell or something.
Post by: catastrophe on May 27, 2016, 10:56:04 AM
asava, save us with a meme
Do they have any good dad joke ones for GoT?
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 29, 2016, 10:19:51 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on May 29, 2016, 10:52:19 PM
I guess they can't all be good. What a crap episode.
You must be a blast at parties
Post by: wetwillie on May 29, 2016, 11:33:46 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on May 30, 2016, 12:07:58 AM
How someone could not enjoy tonight's episode is a mystery to me.
Every single story moved forward tonight. Very solid.
Post by: TownieCat on May 30, 2016, 12:26:51 AM
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Post by: Tobias on May 30, 2016, 12:29:42 AM
Post by: sys on May 30, 2016, 02:50:17 AM
What a crap episode.
sam&gilly had a lot of screen time.
Post by: sys on May 30, 2016, 02:50:59 AM
At this point it seems like we're just making up the rules as we go along...
yes.
Post by: ednksu on May 30, 2016, 06:52:10 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 30, 2016, 08:03:43 AM
Sam and Gilly was ok. So nobody seems to have a problem with Sam breaking his vows with wife/child thing?
The great Uncle Benjen reveal fell flat. It felt perfunctory and overly talky, just to move the story along.
Arya was pretty good. At least we're finally moving on.
So sick of Dany. What a crap character and crap story. Why did they close out the episode with a scene that did nothing? They were already headed to Mereen. The hord was already following her. So she gives another pep talk in dothraki? But she was on a dragon this time! Stupid.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 30, 2016, 08:48:57 AM
Post by: HerrSonntag on May 30, 2016, 08:50:06 AM
In retrospect, there was some good stuff here, but yeah it sucked overall. Biggest problem was it felt like they spent half the episode in King's Landing. The Tommen/Sparrow/Cersei storyline is tedious and lame. But silver lining: Jamie is headed to Riverrun to hopefully get back on track with the books, which is a far better treatment for his character! Welcome back Frey - that was good.i bet you think rainbows and puppy dogs are really lame
Sam and Gilly was ok. So nobody seems to have a problem with Sam breaking his vows with wife/child thing?
The great Uncle Benjen reveal fell flat. It felt perfunctory and overly talky, just to move the story along.
Arya was pretty good. At least we're finally moving on.
So sick of Dany. What a crap character and crap story. Why did they close out the episode with a scene that did nothing? They were already headed to Mereen. The hord was already following her. So she gives another pep talk in dothraki? But she was on a dragon this time! Stupid.
Post by: TownieCat on May 30, 2016, 10:04:49 AM
Post by: Tobias on May 30, 2016, 10:20:58 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 30, 2016, 10:34:40 AM
Post by: ednksu on May 30, 2016, 10:35:50 AM
I'm really wondering about that theory that the mad king went mad because of a bad worg like Hodor. Cheapens the story a bit if they start getting into shitty time travel paradoxes, IMO.
Post by: OK_Cat on May 30, 2016, 01:22:16 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on May 30, 2016, 01:24:38 PM
Post by: Tobias on May 30, 2016, 02:08:39 PM
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Post by: TownieCat on May 30, 2016, 02:37:33 PM
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 30, 2016, 04:46:31 PM
Post by: sys on May 30, 2016, 05:38:07 PM
1. kill sam&gilly.
2. less dumb illogical crap in general.
3. more game of thrones/political machinations stuff, less zombie/time travel nonsense.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 30, 2016, 06:16:22 PM
1. Why does nobody have a problem with a SBotNW having a wife and child?
2. Why does Randal Tarley hate wildlings? He's a southern lord who has probably never seen a wildling.
3. Why is Sam still as fat as the day he entered basic training?
4. How is Sam going to become a maester in enough time to be any help at all?
Post by: CNS on May 30, 2016, 07:05:25 PM
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Post by: sys on May 30, 2016, 07:06:07 PM
Speaking of illogical stuff just with respect to Sam/Gilly...
1. Why does nobody have a problem with a SBotNW having a wife and child?
2. Why does Randal Tarley hate wildlings? He's a southern lord who has probably never seen a wildling.
3. Why is Sam still as fat as the day he entered basic training?
4. How is Sam going to become a maester in enough time to be any help at all?
1. the tv show dispenses with details like that whenever it's convenient.
2. why does trump hate mexicans? hatred is just for fun, mostly.
3. he sits around all day having interminably long boring conversations with gilly and eats extra bread.
4. he won't. didn't jon just send him south to keep him from dying since he's of no use in fights?
Post by: sys on May 30, 2016, 07:07:42 PM
Post by: CNS on May 30, 2016, 07:20:11 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on May 30, 2016, 07:42:52 PM
I hope he falls on it next time he takes it out.
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 30, 2016, 08:31:59 PM
Post by: sys on May 30, 2016, 08:40:45 PM
Yeah I liked that he took the sword, too. But how far does he think they're going to get before daddy finds out? Half a day?
undoubtedly someone who has been galloping for hundreds of miles with no idea where he is will randomly intercept his path five seconds before he's captured. i can't even blame sam for counting on being rescued. it's pretty reliable.
Post by: Cire on May 30, 2016, 09:21:17 PM
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Post by: TownieCat on May 30, 2016, 09:49:24 PM
Who does the mountain have to fight?. I bet Jamie gets dragged in(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F33.media.tumblr.com%2Fbe62470a1d5f039eecabb0f1f79575bc%2Ftumblr_mn4gldmyIT1rlrymro1_250.gif&hash=05e57651eff8ccffbbef391bb591f0f09408cd92)
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Post by: HerrSonntag on May 30, 2016, 10:12:18 PM
Calling it, Heartsbane will be used to kill the Night's King, not necessarily by Sam, but will be a shot right in the chest, bringing around the dragonglass scene full circle (The magic of the children made this monster but its the magic of men that will end him) Because the showrunners, lacking any source material are writing this crap off of drunk half formed GRRM cliffnotes on the story's conclusion.I hope he falls on it next time he takes it out.
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:lol:
AND
Quit being mean to Sam and Gilly, they are adorable.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 31, 2016, 07:04:07 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 31, 2016, 07:12:54 AM
like halfway through season 2... gay jr king with the jr forsworn crown just got murked by the uterine smoke monster
i want more of your commentary.
Post by: michigancat on May 31, 2016, 08:26:35 AM
Post by: michigancat on May 31, 2016, 08:35:17 AM
Also I think all the gods are "real" and are ultimately who are going to duke it out in the end. (7 gods and weird water god included)
Post by: pissclams on May 31, 2016, 08:44:40 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 31, 2016, 09:07:52 AM
And I still don't understand the faith militant thing. I thought Cersei already set an alliance between them and the throne? Or did she just arm them?
Also I think all the gods are "real" and are ultimately who are going to duke it out in the end. (7 gods and weird water god included)
she armed them, but they hate her. if they had a deal, they have rationalized ignoring it due to her sins.
Post by: sys on May 31, 2016, 09:20:13 AM
All the lords had bastards and raised them in their castles, of course Sam's mom and sister didn't get pissed at him. They were probably convinced he was going to die a virgin and were happy to have something new in the most gigantic random castle ever. And obviously Sam's dad wasn't exactly cool with the whole sitch.
the whole story opened with father stark beheading a man for breaking his nightwatcher oath. it was given to us to understand that it was sort of a big deal.
Post by: michigancat on May 31, 2016, 09:25:07 AM
Good point, but I'd still assume that wouldn't happen to the son of a lord.All the lords had bastards and raised them in their castles, of course Sam's mom and sister didn't get pissed at him. They were probably convinced he was going to die a virgin and were happy to have something new in the most gigantic random castle ever. And obviously Sam's dad wasn't exactly cool with the whole sitch.
the whole story opened with father stark beheading a man for breaking his nightwatcher oath. it was given to us to understand that it was sort of a big deal.
Post by: AppleJack on May 31, 2016, 09:26:20 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on May 31, 2016, 09:27:36 AM
epi needed more Ramsay.
yeah where has he been?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 31, 2016, 09:28:18 AM
Banging chicks and slashing dicks?! :dunno:epi needed more Ramsay.
yeah where has he been?
Post by: 'taterblast on May 31, 2016, 09:29:26 AM
Banging chicks and slashing dicks?! :dunno:epi needed more Ramsay.
yeah where has he been?
seems plausible
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on May 31, 2016, 09:29:47 AM
epi needed more Ramsay.
yeah where has he been?
rough ridin' crap up in Winterfell.
BTW, some of you guys are jaded. Dany riding a rough ridin' dragon was awesome (trite speech could have been cut short though).
Post by: Tobias on May 31, 2016, 09:30:27 AM
i want more of your commentary.
i'll review the dossier and let you guys know what i find
Post by: sys on May 31, 2016, 09:31:13 AM
Good point, but I'd still assume that wouldn't happen to the son of a lord.
it gives his father, who hates him, an excuse to kill/exile/rebuff him. he's supposedly smart, although almost everything his does is stupid, so he presumably could have come up with a better plan.
Post by: OK_Cat on May 31, 2016, 09:31:59 AM
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on May 31, 2016, 09:32:49 AM
According to like German TV guide or something, episode 9 is titled 'Battle of the Bastards' so we'll see Ramsay again soon
:excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited:
Post by: OK_Cat on May 31, 2016, 09:38:50 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 31, 2016, 10:02:58 AM
All the lords had bastards and raised them in their castles, of course Sam's mom and sister didn't get pissed at him. They were probably convinced he was going to die a virgin and were happy to have something new in the most gigantic random castle ever. And obviously Sam's dad wasn't exactly cool with the whole sitch.
the whole story opened with father stark beheading a man for breaking his nightwatcher oath. it was given to us to understand that it was sort of a big deal.
And since then they have shown that desertion is about the only oath they take seriously. They didn't care that Jon was tapping ygritte because like everyone else was tapping molestown hoo-ars
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 31, 2016, 10:06:30 AM
Post by: sys on May 31, 2016, 10:06:53 AM
Post by: michigancat on May 31, 2016, 10:14:42 AM
tapping randos doesn't interfere with watching the night. huddling with a gilly and rearing her child does.He was on his way to train to be a maester for the watch. He never deserted.
Post by: sys on May 31, 2016, 10:18:09 AM
He was on his way to train to be a maester for the watch. He never deserted.
i didn't say he deserted.
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 31, 2016, 10:23:04 AM
Post by: asava on May 31, 2016, 10:25:33 AM
to tide you over, this is oddly entrancing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stq0WrmXlDs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stq0WrmXlDs)
Post by: catastrophe on May 31, 2016, 11:00:32 AM
Also, kind of weird to have that emotional scene with Dany at the end when they're like 2 years away from being able to actually get to Westeros with an army. Kind of cool though that her speech was almost a mirror of what Khal Drogo gave way back.
Also still very interested to see what happens to Arya, although I'm bummed she never finished her training.
Post by: michigancat on May 31, 2016, 11:02:33 AM
Post by: michigancat on May 31, 2016, 11:02:55 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 31, 2016, 11:15:51 AM
Post by: Tobias on May 31, 2016, 11:19:09 AM
Post by: catastrophe on May 31, 2016, 11:26:25 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 31, 2016, 11:28:23 AM
Yea, but also have we ever discussed how she named it Drogon? What kind of a name is that for a dragon? That's like naming a Beagle "Bogal."
it's named after her dead husband, dumbass.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 31, 2016, 11:34:26 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 31, 2016, 11:38:50 AM
Post by: catastrophe on May 31, 2016, 11:47:05 AM
Yea, but also have we ever discussed how she named it Drogon? What kind of a name is that for a dragon? That's like naming a Beagle "Bogal."
it's named after her dead husband, dumbass.
Could've just called it Drogo if that were the case. Would be much less confusing.
Post by: catastrophe on May 31, 2016, 11:47:34 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5393ruz.png&hash=ae4d684629a3368c79b10ab58168dafd4b221f9c)
This is good. I didn't put that together.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 31, 2016, 11:55:59 AM
Yea, but also have we ever discussed how she named it Drogon? What kind of a name is that for a dragon? That's like naming a Beagle "Bogal."
it's named after her dead husband, dumbass.
Could've just called it Drogo if that were the case. Would be much less confusing.
:facepalm:
Post by: treysolid on May 31, 2016, 11:59:24 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 31, 2016, 12:07:43 PM
Yea, but also have we ever discussed how she named it Drogon? What kind of a name is that for a dragon? That's like naming a Beagle "Bogal."
it's named after her dead husband, dumbass.
Could've just called it Drogo if that were the case. Would be much less confusing.
Do you not realize that all the dragons are named after dead people?
Post by: michigancat on May 31, 2016, 12:18:27 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 31, 2016, 12:22:54 PM
Viserion
Rheagal
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 31, 2016, 12:24:35 PM
Drogondead husband firebreathing lizard birdViseriondead douchebag brother firebreathing lizard birdRheagaldead brother-she-never-met firebreathing lizard bird.
Post by: AppleJack on May 31, 2016, 12:24:52 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 31, 2016, 12:25:21 PM
I would name my dragons Keith, Alex and Devon.
Rocky, Colt, and Tum-Tum
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 31, 2016, 12:26:17 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 31, 2016, 12:31:22 PM
So why did the Children of the Forest save Benjen? Have they saved other people? Why aren't there a whole bunch of half-dead good guys roaming around fighting the wights?
who cares? I bet we find out, or we don't.
Post by: sys on May 31, 2016, 12:37:42 PM
So why did the Children of the Forest save Benjen? Have they saved other people? Why aren't there a whole bunch of half-dead good guys roaming around fighting the wights?
At this point it seems like we're just making up the rules as we go along...
Post by: asava on May 31, 2016, 12:43:08 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/S4SgWe7.jpg)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 31, 2016, 12:50:50 PM
Post by: asava on May 31, 2016, 12:54:35 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 31, 2016, 01:00:26 PM
Post by: asava on May 31, 2016, 01:02:38 PM
The sun is going to rise in the west!!!!! :excited:
That is good.
Post by: catastrophe on May 31, 2016, 01:04:49 PM
Yea, but also have we ever discussed how she named it Drogon? What kind of a name is that for a dragon? That's like naming a Beagle "Bogal."
it's named after her dead husband, dumbass.
Could've just called it Drogo if that were the case. Would be much less confusing.
Do you not realize that all the dragons are named after dead people?
When I think of "named after" I think it as being the same name, not just something off by a couple letters ("oh that's Tim, he was named after my uncle Jim"). Unless I'm wrong and the guy's name wasn't Drogo then why would she not name the dragon the same thing?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 31, 2016, 01:12:58 PM
Yea, but also have we ever discussed how she named it Drogon? What kind of a name is that for a dragon? That's like naming a Beagle "Bogal."
it's named after her dead husband, dumbass.
Could've just called it Drogo if that were the case. Would be much less confusing.
Do you not realize that all the dragons are named after dead people?
When I think of "named after" I think it as being the same name, not just something off by a couple letters ("oh that's Tim, he was named after my uncle Jim"). Unless I'm wrong and the guy's name wasn't Drogo then why would she not name the dragon the same thing?
The suffix -on means "In memory of" in Dothraki, and the suffix -al means "In honor of" in Dothraki.
Post by: catastrophe on May 31, 2016, 01:48:50 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on May 31, 2016, 02:52:36 PM
:dubious: [citation needed]Yea, but also have we ever discussed how she named it Drogon? What kind of a name is that for a dragon? That's like naming a Beagle "Bogal."
it's named after her dead husband, dumbass.
Could've just called it Drogo if that were the case. Would be much less confusing.
Do you not realize that all the dragons are named after dead people?
When I think of "named after" I think it as being the same name, not just something off by a couple letters ("oh that's Tim, he was named after my uncle Jim"). Unless I'm wrong and the guy's name wasn't Drogo then why would she not name the dragon the same thing?
The suffix -on means "In memory of" in Dothraki, and the suffix -al means "In honor of" in Dothraki.
I always figured it was some Valaryianification of the names of her brothers/khal.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 31, 2016, 03:08:19 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on May 31, 2016, 03:18:07 PM
:lol::bait:
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 31, 2016, 03:28:48 PM
All the lords had bastards and raised them in their castles, of course Sam's mom and sister didn't get pissed at him. They were probably convinced he was going to die a virgin and were happy to have something new in the most gigantic random castle ever. And obviously Sam's dad wasn't exactly cool with the whole sitch.
the whole story opened with father stark beheading a man for breaking his nightwatcher oath. it was given to us to understand that it was sort of a big deal.
Yeah, it's supposed to be a big deal in the books and the show. It's the job of lords to enforce the laws, including NW oath breaking, and Tarley hates his kid anyway, so it seems kinda odd that he didn't even mention it at all. It's just a really odd cover story for Sam/Jon to concoct. "I'm a SBotNW and this is just my wife and child...." It makes no sense.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 31, 2016, 03:33:55 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 31, 2016, 03:51:30 PM
I think his family are the only people he told that little San was his son. I think they should have made it clear that he was only telling his family that Sam is his son and made up something else to tell everyone else. But I think the producers thought that would be too complicated with Sam pretending that his fake son is not his son.
Post by: 'taterblast on May 31, 2016, 04:24:00 PM
Post by: sys on May 31, 2016, 04:27:57 PM
wouldn't they know it was an incest baby if he told them it wasn't his and they found out she was a wildling? then they would definitely kill the baby, right?
can't. too late for the exemption.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 31, 2016, 04:32:26 PM
Post by: sys on May 31, 2016, 04:39:14 PM
the weird thing is coming home at all, followed by lying to tell his father he's an oath-breaker. if there was actually any point to him going home (obviously it was to advance the plot device of stealing the sword, but i mean any point to his original motivation) they could have backstoried some reason why his father didn't give a crap about nightwatch oaths or always wanted a grandkid or whatever, but they didn't they just left it as yet another inconsistency in service of the increasingly poorly written plot.
Post by: TownieCat on May 31, 2016, 04:47:42 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 31, 2016, 04:53:44 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 31, 2016, 04:53:54 PM
why would he tell the servants anything?
I'm just saying the official public story would have been that the baby was not Sam's. Like Gilly was a farm girl with a baby who Sam just saved and was finding a place for her or something.
Post by: sys on May 31, 2016, 04:57:07 PM
Post by: nicname on May 31, 2016, 05:29:50 PM
Good point, but I'd still assume that wouldn't happen to the son of a lord.All the lords had bastards and raised them in their castles, of course Sam's mom and sister didn't get pissed at him. They were probably convinced he was going to die a virgin and were happy to have something new in the most gigantic random castle ever. And obviously Sam's dad wasn't exactly cool with the whole sitch.
the whole story opened with father stark beheading a man for breaking his nightwatcher oath. it was given to us to understand that it was sort of a big deal.
I think it was more about showing how "by the book" ol' Ned was as warden of the north. But yes, also to highlight that the mysterious evil lurking beyond the wall and the importance of stopping it, regardless of what the folks in southern Westeros think.
Post by: pissclams on May 31, 2016, 05:39:22 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 31, 2016, 06:58:27 PM
Post by: pissclams on May 31, 2016, 07:21:40 PM
it's a television show, not the rosetta stone
Post by: Tobias on May 31, 2016, 10:35:23 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 31, 2016, 10:36:52 PM
theon looks like a car mechanic from Colby
Shaggy has dubbed the greyjoys as iron aggie
Post by: Tobias on May 31, 2016, 10:37:11 PM
Post by: sys on May 31, 2016, 10:46:15 PM
Shaggy has dubbed the greyjoys as iron aggie
heh.
Post by: mocat on May 31, 2016, 11:01:53 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 31, 2016, 11:09:29 PM
Post by: Tobias on May 31, 2016, 11:17:18 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 31, 2016, 11:28:15 PM
Post by: ednksu on June 01, 2016, 02:46:09 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5393ruz.png&hash=ae4d684629a3368c79b10ab58168dafd4b221f9c)
Ah Arya's talk with the actress.
Post by: halfEmpty on June 01, 2016, 07:59:34 AM
smdh, not as many as you guys are giving it credit for imo iirc
it's a television show, not the rosetta stone
probably true. In the end Cersei eventually regains control of the capitol, watches it crumble. Her son the king dies, she is killed by one of her brothers. Jaime becomes a footnote or dies, Tyrion becomes a drunk politician, oh wait... Jon Snow is not Ned's son, but rather the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna and is the prince that was promised. Daenerys wreaks havoc with her dragons, becomes a brutal conqueror and not a savior as everyone so hoped. Bran either accidentally manipulates the past, or uses it to defeat the walkers. Sansa, Arya, Rickon. Who knows, they'll do something important I'm sure, or die. Baelish will continue sniveling around Westeros. Sam and Gilly, still wandering around. Maybe he imparts some knowledge on someone who cares. Catelyn Stark comes back as a cold hearted b. And they all live crappily ever after. Oh, Final cut-scene to a lone white walker heading north planning his eventual return.
game over.
Post by: TownieCat on June 01, 2016, 08:16:12 AM
Iron aggies are the only people deserving an aggie title
The White Walkers are very deserving of being Ice Aggies IMO
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 01, 2016, 09:27:20 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 01, 2016, 09:33:24 AM
Targs should be Incest Aggie
Lannisters are taking that label for themselves.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 01, 2016, 09:34:26 AM
Targs should be Incest Aggie
Lannisters are taking that label for themselves.
Gold Digger Aggie
Post by: Tobias on June 01, 2016, 09:35:12 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 01, 2016, 09:36:19 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 01, 2016, 09:39:42 AM
Targs should be Incest Aggie
Speaking of this, is Dany an incest baby? I don't remember who her mother is.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 01, 2016, 09:52:03 AM
Targs should be Incest Aggie
Speaking of this, is Dany an incest baby? I don't remember who her mother is.
Yes, King Aerys was married to his sister, Rhaelle.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 01, 2016, 09:56:57 AM
She also thinks the white walkers will join up with jon to fight dany in the big war
Post by: TownieCat on June 01, 2016, 10:16:23 AM
My friend (female) thinks dany is starting to go crazy and enjoys killing people now.
She also thinks the white walkers will join up with jon to fight dany in the big war
:Wha:
I could see that. Going crazy runs in her family.
Post by: sys on June 01, 2016, 10:30:41 AM
Don't worry, that's a minor storyline
he's lying, tobias. you might consider dropping out now.
Post by: Tobias on June 01, 2016, 10:32:00 AM
Post by: sys on June 01, 2016, 10:32:56 AM
definitely doesn't seem to jive with that crap a couple posts up, sys
it just gets worse and worse.
Post by: Tobias on June 01, 2016, 10:34:54 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 01, 2016, 10:38:13 AM
are they going to "have to go back" too? man i just dunno
learn to enjoy the lol wtf and don't be like almost everyone else in this thread.
Post by: Tobias on June 01, 2016, 10:39:03 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 01, 2016, 10:40:23 AM
are they going to "have to go back" too? man i just dunno
We have to go back is basically the motivation for every storyline at this point
Post by: Tobias on June 01, 2016, 10:43:43 AM
Post by: catastrophe on June 01, 2016, 10:47:39 AM
My friend (female) thinks dany is starting to go crazy and enjoys killing people now.
She also thinks the white walkers will join up with jon to fight dany in the big war
Thanks for clarifying. It is important I know the sex of the person offering theories.
Also, joining with the white walkers would be pretty hilarious.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 01, 2016, 11:22:17 AM
Post by: sys on June 01, 2016, 11:23:31 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 01, 2016, 11:27:01 AM
My friend (female) thinks dany is starting to go crazy and enjoys killing people now.
She also thinks the white walkers will join up with jon to fight dany in the big war
Thanks for clarifying. It is important I know the sex of the person offering theories.
Also, joining with the white walkers would be pretty hilarious.
Good grief edn :facepalm:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 01, 2016, 11:34:21 AM
Post by: catastrophe on June 01, 2016, 11:36:09 AM
Maybe if Bran (3ER) can figure out how to warg into the wights/WW then he could control them and they could fight for Jon.
Why not just warg into Dany if she's somehow a bigger threat?
Post by: sys on June 01, 2016, 11:42:17 AM
Why not just warg into Dany if she's somehow a bigger threat?
warg into her dragon, force the dragon to buck her off so she falls to her death, then fly to horn hill and use it to burn sam & gilly to death.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 01, 2016, 12:03:54 PM
Also not sure on the proximity requirement of the warg and wargee.
Post by: asava on June 01, 2016, 12:31:37 PM
Post by: sys on June 01, 2016, 12:38:44 PM
Post by: michigancat on June 01, 2016, 12:40:52 PM
Post by: Tobias on June 01, 2016, 12:53:10 PM
That one guy in Dany's group always makes me think of the goofy nice guy dad in Orphan Black. I can't shake it.
Donny? :excited:
Post by: michigancat on June 01, 2016, 12:54:56 PM
No, I wish. It's Sarah's baby daddy (and he flat out replaces an actor in the same part and is a pretty terrible casting).That one guy in Dany's group always makes me think of the goofy nice guy dad in Orphan Black. I can't shake it.
Donny? :excited:
Post by: Tobias on June 01, 2016, 01:06:14 PM
No, I wish. It's Sarah's baby daddy (and he flat out replaces an actor in the same part and is a pretty terrible casting).
damn :frown:
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 01, 2016, 01:09:56 PM
No, I wish. It's Sarah's baby daddy (and he flat out replaces an actor in the same part and is a pretty terrible casting).That one guy in Dany's group always makes me think of the goofy nice guy dad in Orphan Black. I can't shake it.
Donny? :excited:
I don't even remember who the original actor for that role was now. The show version of that character is pretty lackluster.
Post by: michigancat on June 01, 2016, 01:10:58 PM
I think he was a Latin lover type?No, I wish. It's Sarah's baby daddy (and he flat out replaces an actor in the same part and is a pretty terrible casting).That one guy in Dany's group always makes me think of the goofy nice guy dad in Orphan Black. I can't shake it.
Donny? :excited:
I don't even remember who the original actor for that role was now. The show version of that character is pretty lackluster.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 01, 2016, 01:13:53 PM
Michiel Huisman.
Post by: michigancat on June 01, 2016, 01:16:48 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fguardianlv.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F04%2Fdaario-650x365.jpg&hash=fe7536b3748c3518361b6e526714bfe8e02edd85)
http://guardianlv.com/2014/04/game-of-thrones-daario-naharis-has-a-new-face/
Post by: Tobias on June 01, 2016, 01:18:16 PM
Post by: catastrophe on June 01, 2016, 01:21:32 PM
well I was wrong about the latin part, but LOL
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fguardianlv.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F04%2Fdaario-650x365.jpg&hash=fe7536b3748c3518361b6e526714bfe8e02edd85)
http://guardianlv.com/2014/04/game-of-thrones-daario-naharis-has-a-new-face/
I didn't realize these were supposed to be the same person until like 2 weeks ago.
Post by: treysolid on June 01, 2016, 02:40:55 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 01, 2016, 02:42:27 PM
he was better as the villian in deadpool.
Yes
Post by: star seed 7 on June 01, 2016, 02:48:01 PM
Post by: catastrophe on June 01, 2016, 02:56:24 PM
Post by: mocat on June 01, 2016, 03:03:12 PM
he was better as the villian in deadpool.
Yes
:sdeek:
Post by: Gooch on June 01, 2016, 04:16:53 PM
<------- no clue that was the same guyhe was better as the villian in deadpool.
Yes
:sdeek:
Post by: ednksu on June 01, 2016, 07:46:07 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia3.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2FQy9hRuWrKjY2I%2Fgiphy.gif&hash=89c342b6d1e6e902cea75f64f1efa3a88466c0b7)My friend (female) thinks dany is starting to go crazy and enjoys killing people now.
She also thinks the white walkers will join up with jon to fight dany in the big war
Thanks for clarifying. It is important I know the sex of the person offering theories.
Also, joining with the white walkers would be pretty hilarious.
Good grief edn :facepalm:
Post by: asava on June 02, 2016, 04:57:52 PM
Post by: asava on June 02, 2016, 04:59:19 PM
Post by: asava on June 02, 2016, 05:00:11 PM
Post by: Cire on June 02, 2016, 05:18:36 PM
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Ruh rohEverything is fine.
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Mountain v. Hound is going to be epic :popcorn:
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Post by: sys on June 06, 2016, 02:00:59 AM
This might be the best season so far.
if it wasn't for dobber's trump thing, this would be the stupidest thing i've seen all day.
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 06, 2016, 07:28:10 AM
This might be the best season so far.
if it wasn't for dobber's trump thing, this would be the stupidest thing i've seen all day.
Fair enough. Maybe I'm just enjoying this one more because I've exhausted the books and I'm getting further into the story.
Post by: TownieCat on June 06, 2016, 07:44:59 AM
lady mormont is just the cutest little badassShe has "it". Surprising since she only has 62 fighting men.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 06, 2016, 07:56:35 AM
lady mormont is just the cutest little badass
But did they name her Lyanna just so we could be reminded of Lyanna Stark (again)?
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Post by: TownieCat on June 06, 2016, 09:21:57 AM
I would think multiple stab wounds to the gut should be 100% lethal in this time period.
This show is set in another realm, not another time period.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 06, 2016, 09:26:21 AM
I would think multiple stab wounds to the gut should be 100% lethal in this time period.
This show is set in another realm, not another time period.
Myth busted
Post by: halfEmpty on June 06, 2016, 09:32:44 AM
Summary: “Tyrion finds cause for concern. Cersei prepares for the worst. Sansa takes control. Arya is not alone.”
- I guess from that we can surmise Arya survives at least a little while longer. If not, it's a lot of wasted screen time for a character they are just going to kill off after not doing anything of note with her.
Episode 9: Battle of the Bastards
Episode summary: “Ramsay surprises his audience. Jon retaliates. Dany is true to her word.”
Episode 10: The Winds of Winter
Episode summary: “A queen comes forth. Euron reveals himself. Brienne meets a friend turned foe. King’s Landing awaits justice. The Night’s Watch gathers."
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Post by: sys on June 06, 2016, 01:23:05 PM
I would think multiple stab wounds to the gut should be 100% lethal in this time period.
being stabbed to death all over isn't 100% lethal in this time period, as long as someone mumbles the right words, so there's no real reason to think multiple stab wounds to the gut and a quick dip in a filthy urban canal would be that dangerous.
surprising that living again isn't more widespread, but i guess there isn't much demand.
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Post by: michigancat on June 06, 2016, 08:33:59 PM
I mean, being stabbed to death is basically meaningless, and we got another reference to Jon dying. (at least it was davos that mentioned it instead of Jon whining about it.)
And of course Arya isn't dead. I like, don't care if anyone gets stabbed or gets their head chopped off even more. I have expected Ian McShane to wake up and dance a jig on the rope.
:flush: :flush:
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I could see this happening, but seems like a stretch
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Post by: sys on June 06, 2016, 11:41:11 PM
Maybe it was always this shitty and I liked it more because I'd read the books.
that's an interesting conceit, but i don't think it explains everything. the books are generally well written, rich in detail, good pace, good development, etc. but the truly unique thing he did was devote an enormous amount of time developing characters that he killed off (and maimed) early in the books. this felt shocking to readers since basically no one does this. it gives the impression that any character is at risk (that isn't sustainable in later books, because the important characters aren't really at risk, martin just encouraged readers to misidentify who the important characters were at first, but as you get later and later in the story, the readers will eventually focus on the "right" characters). the earlier seasons of the show followed this formula, and at least to nonreaders, it had the same effect.
the later seasons (and possibly forthcoming books) have crap all over this. they now follow the formulaic tv/movie standard where important characters face seemingly impossible risks and somehow miraculously emerge unscathed. minor characters are introduced for the sole purpose of having them killed to reveal the emotional complexity of the important characters (hello tedious group of religious zealots the hound befriended and then couldn't hear being massacred while he chopped wood for countless hours a few hundred meters uphill). characters make stupid or out-of-character decisions whenever convenient to the plot. logical inconsistencies abound.
i'm still attached to both the characters and the plot, so i keep watching. but i can recognize that the show i'm now watching is horribly written drivel.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 07, 2016, 07:30:41 AM
I'm fine that none of the principal "good guys" have been offed recently. That worked well early in the books for the reason you described - GRRM's misdirection as to whom were the important characters. But that model isn't sustainable now that we're approaching the final act. The final act will sort out the remainder of the main characters - we're just building to it.
I expect the remaining books will follow suit. You really think GRRM is not resurrecting Jon Snow? Please. Moreover, much of what we're seeing this season seems to be a logical extension of where the books are headed. It makes sense that Jon is marching on Winterfell. It makes sense that Ramsay has murdered his family and seized control.
This show has made mistakes. The biggest was the deviation they took with Jamie's character, reconciling him with Cersei. Thankfully he's now back in the Riverlands where he belongs. But it's still the best show on TV. It's going to bring home 20+ Emmys this year. And it has made a number of significant improvements over the books by tightening certain storylines. For example, Sansa and Littlefinger in the Vale.
Post by: TownieCat on June 07, 2016, 08:23:42 AM
Post by: asava on June 07, 2016, 10:43:53 AM
Maybe it was always this shitty and I liked it more because I'd read the books.
that's an interesting conceit, but i don't think it explains everything. the books are generally well written, rich in detail, good pace, good development, etc. but the truly unique thing he did was devote an enormous amount of time developing characters that he killed off (and maimed) early in the books. this felt shocking to readers since basically no one does this. it gives the impression that any character is at risk (that isn't sustainable in later books, because the important characters aren't really at risk, martin just encouraged readers to misidentify who the important characters were at first, but as you get later and later in the story, the readers will eventually focus on the "right" characters). the earlier seasons of the show followed this formula, and at least to nonreaders, it had the same effect.
the later seasons (and possibly forthcoming books) have crap all over this. they now follow the formulaic tv/movie standard where important characters face seemingly impossible risks and somehow miraculously emerge unscathed. minor characters are introduced for the sole purpose of having them killed to reveal the emotional complexity of the important characters (hello tedious group of religious zealots the hound befriended and then couldn't hear being massacred while he chopped wood for countless hours a few hundred meters uphill). characters make stupid or out-of-character decisions whenever convenient to the plot. logical inconsistencies abound.
i'm still attached to both the characters and the plot, so i keep watching. but i can recognize that the show i'm now watching is horribly written drivel.
pretty much the best post since my last one.
Post by: sys on June 07, 2016, 01:15:20 PM
I expect the remaining books will follow suit. You really think GRRM is not resurrecting Jon Snow? Please.
i expect he will be resurrected in the books, but not without significant cost and he will not be unchanged/undamaged by the event. and the process will not be something anyone could do in their mother's basement but no one else bothers with because living isn't that big of a deal for non jon snows.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 07, 2016, 01:18:45 PM
Post by: michigancat on June 07, 2016, 01:20:24 PM
Well he did turn emo on the show so I wouldn't say he is unchanged. Also stupid man bun. :Yuck:
you'd be emo, too, if you died. Has he mentioned that he's died?
Post by: HerrSonntag on June 07, 2016, 01:35:11 PM
Someone should start a thread where the book readers complain about the TV show.http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=25407.msg1563569#msg1563569 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=25407.msg1563569#msg1563569)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 07, 2016, 02:08:36 PM
Post by: Tobias on June 08, 2016, 10:43:35 PM
No, I wish. It's Sarah's baby daddy (and he flat out replaces an actor in the same part and is a pretty terrible casting).
just got there :surprised:
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Post by: Yard Dog on June 09, 2016, 08:06:28 AM
Does she find syrio in braavos now? I can't think of anyone there to help her
Gendry is also a popular theory here.
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Post by: Art Vandelay on June 09, 2016, 09:09:05 AM
I'll be honest, I've enjoyed the hell out of this season.
Yeah I'm in the same boat. I've thought it has been damn good. GRRM did a lot of stupid crap in those later books so it's nice the showrunners can start heading down their own path on how they want it to end.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 09, 2016, 10:22:18 AM
Does she find syrio in braavos now? I can't think of anyone there to help her
Gendry is also a popular theory here.
Good grief
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 09, 2016, 03:10:11 PM
I'll be honest, I've enjoyed the hell out of this season.
Yeah I'm in the same boat. I've thought it has been damn good. GRRM did a lot of stupid crap in those later books so it's nice the showrunners can start heading down their own path on how they want it to end.
Yes. For the most part the show has made good decisions on when and how to depart from the books. It'll be a little weird of the shows have a completely different ending than whenever book 7 is finished, but I assume GRRM had shared the broad strokes of what he intends to happen.
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Post by: catastrophe on June 09, 2016, 09:12:33 PM
I really, really have liked the bran stuff and wish there would've been more time spent there rather than in bravos. I also wish we would've spent more time in the cave before the zombie chase scene, but the Hodor and Benjen stark parts were amazing. I literally stood up and fist pumped after that episode. I don't care much about arya or the hound so I really didn't like episode 7.
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Weird that people can like the exact opposite things on GoT. The most exciting moment of the season for me so far was seeing the Hound alive again.
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Post by: wetwillie on June 10, 2016, 07:01:05 AM
So when Arya gets back to Westeros, what's her first stop? I'm thinking Walder Frey.
That would be enjoyable.
Post by: michigancat on June 10, 2016, 11:20:41 AM
jon's not dead
dany found her dragon
bran can shift time
sam stole a sword
arya left the assassin
hound's not dead
tommen believes in the seven gods
:zzz:
Post by: TownieCat on June 10, 2016, 11:42:09 AM
so let's review what's happened this season:
jon's not dead
dany found her dragon
bran can shift time
sam stole a sword
arya left the assassin
hound's not dead
tommen believes in the seven gods
:zzz:
Ramsay shanked his dad
Hodor held the door
A new Greyjoy arrived out of nowhere
Two pups died
Farting
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 10, 2016, 11:45:42 AM
so let's review what's happened this season:
jon's not deadwas resurrected so that he can go fight Ramsey Bolton, a terrible human being
dany found her dragon after she convinced the entire Dothraki nation to follow her by being impervious to fire
bran can shift time, learned the origins of the single biggest threat to all of Westeros, and learned that his uncle is not dead as previously believed but is actually the single best person to help him fight the biggest threat to Westeros
sam stole a sword which is one of the few weapons left that can kill the single biggest threat to all of Westeros
aryaleft thelearned assassin skills so that she can complete her mission of killing all those on her kill list
hound's not dead and is probably on his way to fight his resurrected brother
tommen believes in the seven gods which is really rough ridin' up Cersei's plans
:excited:
FIFY
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I keep wondering what that fat guy is going to do with his dad's sword.He's going to give it someone else. Davos or Tormund would be my guess.
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 13, 2016, 12:13:29 AM
Tommen throws an unexpected curve ball! What is the rumor Qyburn is talking about?
Blackfish should have gotten in the damned boat. I liked that character. Was also hoping Jamie would be headed in a different direction, but looks like no Lady Stoneheart so I guess he crawls back to Cersei again. Too bad.
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Post by: sys on June 13, 2016, 12:58:59 AM
the whole jaime attacks the tullys thing is also just so stupid. it's like the writers hate their fans.
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Post by: Cire on June 13, 2016, 07:14:41 AM
Aryas last line was great as was the smirk he gave her
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Post by: halfEmpty on June 13, 2016, 07:43:31 AM
Was hoping there was going to be a better explanation for how Arya didn't die. You don't get stabbed multiple times in the gut and then not only don't die but go for a jog the next day. Especially not because an actress "patches you up." Basic stuff like that should still make sense, even in a show with dragons, zombies, and all the rest. So that was really dumb.
Tommen throws an unexpected curve ball! What is the rumor Qyburn is talking about?
Blackfish should have gotten in the damned boat. I liked that character. Was also hoping Jamie would be headed in a different direction, but looks like no Lady Stoneheart so I guess he crawls back to Cersei again. Too bad.
I'd guess the rumor is pertaining to all the wildfyre that the mad king planted under the city is still there. Jaime never told anyone about it except Brienne.
Post by: 'taterblast on June 13, 2016, 08:48:30 AM
with that said, VERY excited for Arya to eff some crap up back at home.
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 13, 2016, 09:34:43 AM
I thought zombie cat was coming out of the bushes by the river for sure. Maybe she'll still be revealed?
If Beric is still alive, I don't think they're bringing back Cat. Too bad. I'm looking forward to learning where that goes in the books. Will be super awesome if she's reunited with Sansa or Arya. Or Jon. "You were brought back from the dead? I was brought back from the dead, too! Lord of Light? No way!" Both share a good laugh.
Post by: catastrophe on June 13, 2016, 10:49:36 AM
Other than that, pretty good episode IMO. Looking forward to the hound and Arya getting back together.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 13, 2016, 10:58:38 AM
Post by: michigancat on June 13, 2016, 11:02:50 AM
I was a little disappointed that Arya really was surprised by the waif in the previous episode (when she got stabbed) and it wasn't a ruse to trap her. Not sure how long Arya was at the actresses house, maybe she had been healing up for a few days but still pretty unrealistic that she could move so fast.
It was unrealistic that the actress wasn't killed sooner
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 13, 2016, 12:30:47 PM
Simply enjoy it, or move on. You are not forced to watch this show every week.
If I don't watch it live on air then Gooch starts sending me spoilers via text message so in effect I am forced to watch it.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 13, 2016, 12:41:11 PM
Simply enjoy it, or move on. You are not forced to watch this show every week.
It's the best show on tv, but that doesn't mean it doesn't occasionally do something stupid. Arya's miraculously healing tummy and ensuing chase scene was dumb. If you can't figure out a plausible way to get her out of the situation, don't gut stab her in the first place.
Post by: michigancat on June 13, 2016, 01:03:19 PM
Simply enjoy it, or move on. You are not forced to watch this show every week.You aren't forced to read these posts
Post by: michigancat on June 13, 2016, 01:04:07 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 13, 2016, 01:08:51 PM
Simply enjoy it, or move on. You are not forced to watch this show every week.You aren't forced to read these posts
please don't dismantle my soapbox.
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2016, 01:09:49 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 13, 2016, 01:12:31 PM
pmshead is much more forced to read michigancat's posts in this thread about a show he likes, than michigancat is to watch a show he doesn't like
t-y
Post by: michigancat on June 13, 2016, 01:22:38 PM
pmshead is much more forced to read michigancat's posts in this thread about a show he likes, than michigancat is to watch a show he doesn't like
I enjoy watching though
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 13, 2016, 01:28:50 PM
OKAY, so I really just want you to all stop bitching about the show unless you are going to make me laugh.
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Post by: michigancat on June 13, 2016, 01:44:02 PM
man, Blackfish, what a let down.
unless he's not dead! wouldn't that be a shocking twist, after only thoros(?), Jon Snow, Arya (twice?), the Hound, and Benjen had been dead or presumed dead and later brought back to life. Who am I missing?
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2016, 01:51:30 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 13, 2016, 01:53:59 PM
man, Blackfish, what a let down.
unless he's not dead! wouldn't that be a shocking twist, after only thoros(?), Jon Snow, Arya (twice?), the Hound, and Benjen had been dead or presumed dead and later brought back to life. Who am I missing?
The mountain
Post by: star seed 7 on June 13, 2016, 01:55:28 PM
nothing worse than a character presumed dead only to find out later he or she is still alive! :curse:
My favorite part is rusty directs his anger about this toward the show, but the books have way way more
Post by: michigancat on June 13, 2016, 01:55:50 PM
nothing worse than a character presumed dead only to find out later he or she is still alive! :curse:
yeah it's great so let's do it again and again and again.
#BringBackNed
Post by: michigancat on June 13, 2016, 01:56:18 PM
nothing worse than a character presumed dead only to find out later he or she is still alive! :curse:
My favorite part is rusty directs his anger about this toward the show, but the books have way way more
yeah let's talk about the new books
:flush:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 13, 2016, 02:15:50 PM
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Post by: michigancat on June 13, 2016, 02:23:35 PM
When was the other time Arya was presumed dead?Fell in the river, hound knocking her out after the red wedding
Post by: star seed 7 on June 13, 2016, 02:24:25 PM
When was the other time Arya was presumed dead?
Well there are no times she was presumed dead (to the viewer)
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2016, 02:37:54 PM
When was the other time Arya was presumed dead?Fell in the river, hound knocking her out after the red wedding
:lol:
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 13, 2016, 02:43:48 PM
Post by: The Whale on June 13, 2016, 02:45:19 PM
I'm not 100% convinced that Stannis is dead.
I always assumed he would be the flayed man burning upside down that was shown in the season trailer. That Brienne traded him to Ramsay for info on Sansa and didn't just randomly happen upon Theon and Sansa exactly in their moment of need.
Post by: sys on June 13, 2016, 03:03:32 PM
yeah it's great so let's do it again and again and again.
this is pretty much the producers' only note to the scriptwriters every season, every episode.
Post by: sys on June 13, 2016, 03:05:47 PM
another thing about Arya. her 20 mint jaunt through the streets like a panicked little fraidy cat (all whilst carrying her sword), seemed a bit inconsistent with the character I thought she had become after more than a season with the Faceless Man. I mean, talk about 1 step forward, 2 steps back!
don't think she was carrying the sword, at least i didn't notice it and it looked like she pulled it out from under the rug when she was cornered by (or where she lured) the waif.
pretty stupid not to carry her sword, tho.
Post by: sys on June 13, 2016, 03:09:32 PM
I was a little disappointed that Arya really was surprised by the waif in the previous episode (when she got stabbed) and it wasn't a ruse to trap her. Not sure how long Arya was at the actresses house, maybe she had been healing up for a few days but still pretty unrealistic that she could move so fast.
It was unrealistic that the actress wasn't killed sooner
super realistic that ubertalented, heart of gold actress has a habit of stabbing boyfriends and then home-curing them. actresses, amirite? anyway, i fell kinda in love with that character over the last few epis and was totally sympathetic that stone cold killer, arya, refused to kill her for no real reason. over it now, i guess.
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Post by: michigancat on June 13, 2016, 03:13:03 PM
She should have just kicked the candle over, setting the waif on fire.
I would have guessed the sword would have knocked it over!
Post by: sys on June 13, 2016, 03:15:07 PM
At least we got all that blackfish excitement! What intrigue!
epi 7: blackfish has marshaled an army and seized his ancestral castle, in open rebellion to the king's vassal. his men stand in silent assent as blackfish dares the king's vassal's army to kill his captive nephew, the stringy-haired edmure.
epi. 8: stringy-haired edumre walks up to the castle and suggests the rebellious army open their gates, overthrow blackfish and unconditionally surrender. men are like, yup, gotta do it, love me some edmure.
Post by: sys on June 13, 2016, 03:16:02 PM
She should have just kicked the candle over, setting the waif on fire.
I would have guessed the sword would have knocked it over!
fires are very unpredictable.
Post by: michigancat on June 13, 2016, 03:16:42 PM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 13, 2016, 03:38:06 PM
Does anyone else think that GoT cut the wig budget and that Cersei and the Joffery-actor are using the same wig?
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 13, 2016, 03:52:40 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 13, 2016, 04:45:29 PM
wow - guess I completely missed the part where her aimlessly stumbling through the city smearing blood everywhere was actually a trick designed to lure her assailant to the location of her sword. instead of just being armed in the first place.
She had to lure her to a place where she could knock out the light.
Post by: sys on June 13, 2016, 04:50:42 PM
wow - guess I completely missed the part where her aimlessly stumbling through the city smearing blood everywhere was actually a trick designed to lure her assailant to the location of her sword. instead of just being armed in the first place.
arya's plan:
1. get stabbed
2. sword + darkness
3. ???
4. waif's face
Post by: Gooch on June 13, 2016, 05:07:39 PM
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 13, 2016, 05:22:52 PM
I think the idea was, she was punished and made blind and therefore had the upper hand in the dark(although the waif was always more badass than Arya so I figured she could fight blind as well)
Admittedly, I'm low fantasy screenwriting IQ (LFSWIQ) but I feel a sweet sword fight/waif facing in the darkness could have been written a bit better.
Post by: TownieCat on June 13, 2016, 05:37:08 PM
Ramsey is going to whoop that ass this week. :excited:He is about to die :excited:
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 13, 2016, 07:48:07 PM
Post by: wetwillie on June 13, 2016, 08:04:13 PM
Ramsey is going to whoop that ass this week. :excited:
I can't wait to see what kind of mumped up things he has in store for the battle.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 13, 2016, 08:16:18 PM
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 13, 2016, 08:20:00 PM
Guys, I think we can all agree that the whole Arya thing this week was absurd, but I don't think it's fair to conclude that this irreparably tarnishes the entire series.
Nobody suggested it did. I don't think.
Post by: michigancat on June 13, 2016, 09:16:57 PM
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Post by: Tobias on June 13, 2016, 09:25:57 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 13, 2016, 09:28:29 PM
hodong or is there another?
Houndong
Post by: Tobias on June 13, 2016, 09:29:32 PM
don't think I'm there yet and/or was a 6+ if it already happened
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2016, 09:29:47 PM
hodong or is there another?
Houndong
No, neither of these had ksuw on the brink of quitting the show
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2016, 09:30:32 PM
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Post by: Belvis Noland on June 13, 2016, 09:34:21 PM
thedong
This made me laugh
Post by: sys on June 13, 2016, 09:50:22 PM
The only thing that tarnished the entire series was the dong shot
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It's like they thought, we need to establish that Sandor has a penis in this scene. That will be important for later...
saw this comment on another board. chuckled.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 13, 2016, 09:55:22 PM
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Post by: michigancat on June 14, 2016, 11:02:34 AM
Post by: asava on June 14, 2016, 11:35:26 AM
I enjoy Bron in small doses
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Post by: asava on June 15, 2016, 05:20:26 PM
Wasn't oscar blinded at one point too?
:Wha:
Post by: michigancat on June 15, 2016, 06:44:32 PM
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Post by: Gooch on June 19, 2016, 06:29:02 PM
:love: :love: :love:
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Post by: star seed 7 on June 19, 2016, 06:39:55 PM
Battle of the bastards tonight. Who you got? :excited:
:love: :love: :love:
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#teamramsey
Post by: Gooch on June 19, 2016, 06:47:15 PM
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Post by: ednksu on June 19, 2016, 09:34:00 PM
Long game I hope we don't have the Starks/North against Daenerys.
Post by: pissclams on June 19, 2016, 09:47:21 PM
Post by: ednksu on June 19, 2016, 09:52:22 PM
why didn't sansa tell jon about littlefinger and the knights of the vale. seemed kinda important.She was trying to get him to meet with Little Finger but it wasn't even on his radar. I bet right after their meeting at the end of the night she rode out to get Little Finger's army. Did you catch the after episode preview? They get into the trust stuff.
Post by: pissclams on June 19, 2016, 09:56:59 PM
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Post by: mocat on June 19, 2016, 10:33:46 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 19, 2016, 10:47:26 PM
why didn't sansa tell jon about littlefinger and the knights of the vale. seemed kinda important.
Because that would have ruined the surprise for Jon (and us). Basically one of those completely nonsensical things necessary for the story.
Jon charging the entire Bolton army was likewise pretty dumb. As was "digging trenches" - in frozen ground.
Other than those things, solid episode. That long-shot battle sequence was amazing. Ramsey's end was satisfying. I was hoping there was going to be more to the Umber/Rickon thing, but I guess not.
Oh, and Davos found the stag. I guess that's the end of Mel....
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 19, 2016, 10:57:09 PM
Post by: ednksu on June 19, 2016, 10:58:49 PM
why didn't sansa tell jon about littlefinger and the knights of the vale. seemed kinda important.
Because that would have ruined the surprise for Jon (and us). Basically one of those completely nonsensical things necessary for the story.
Jon charging the entire Bolton army was likewise pretty dumb. As was "digging trenches" - in frozen ground.
Other than those things, solid episode. That long-shot battle sequence was amazing. Ramsey's end was satisfying. I was hoping there was going to be more to the Umber/Rickon thing, but I guess not.
Oh, and Davos found the stag. I guess that's the end of Mel....
you missed a lot of the points they were making.
Getting the army shows that Sansa is a leader, Snow is a general. They were right to dig trenches, and Snow did exactly as Sansa predicted and fell into his trap. Also why the eff didn't Rickon toss in a couple rough ridin' zig zags!
Post by: wetwillie on June 19, 2016, 11:00:31 PM
Post by: mocat on June 19, 2016, 11:01:24 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 19, 2016, 11:52:12 PM
I might rewatch all 6 ep 9s sometime
This should be a thing
Post by: nicname on June 20, 2016, 01:21:33 AM
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 20, 2016, 08:32:12 AM
why didn't sansa tell jon about littlefinger and the knights of the vale. seemed kinda important.
Because that would have ruined the surprise for Jon (and us). Basically one of those completely nonsensical things necessary for the story.
Jon charging the entire Bolton army was likewise pretty dumb. As was "digging trenches" - in frozen ground.
Other than those things, solid episode. That long-shot battle sequence was amazing. Ramsey's end was satisfying. I was hoping there was going to be more to the Umber/Rickon thing, but I guess not.
Oh, and Davos found the stag. I guess that's the end of Mel....
you missed a lot of the points they were making.
Getting the army shows that Sansa is a leader, Snow is a general. They were right to dig trenches, and Snow did exactly as Sansa predicted and fell into his trap. Also why the eff didn't Rickon toss in a couple rough ridin' zig zags!
I wasn't surprised when The Vale showed up. I was just pointing out why Sansa didn't tell Jon ahead of time. It added drama, but made zero sense "Jooooon, we need more men (even though I secretly know I've got a whole freakin' army on the way, but I don't think I'll tell him that)!"
Digging trenches by hand in frozen ground is more or less impossible.
I expected Jon to fall into a trap, just not so stupidly as he did. I was expecting a double-cross. Single handedly charging the Bolton forces, even after Rickon was killed? That was uncharacteristically stupid and bizarre behavior.
The shot Ramsay made was impossible anyway - Rickon had to have been over 100 yards away by then, running over uneven terrain - so it's not like adding a few zags was going to make the shot any harder for Ramsay's supernatural archery abilities. And why didn't Ramsay then kill Jon with another of his trick shot arrows?
So yeah, whole lotta stupid in this episode. But the battle and Ramsay's end was fun to watch.
Did Rickon utter a single word this season? I don't think he did. It's interesting that they brought back the same actor to reprise the role but didn't give him a single line.
Post by: AppleJack on June 20, 2016, 08:38:04 AM
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Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 20, 2016, 09:26:42 AM
Post by: mocat on June 20, 2016, 09:32:22 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 20, 2016, 09:36:16 AM
i don't remember what happened to Bran's direwolf
Died in the cave escape
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 20, 2016, 09:43:01 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 20, 2016, 09:44:10 AM
Wun Wun :(
Was he the only giant left in the world?
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 20, 2016, 10:02:45 AM
Wun Wun :(
Was he the only giant left in the world?
yes. :frown:
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 20, 2016, 10:05:08 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 20, 2016, 10:08:07 AM
Jon did all of those dumb things during battle because a bunch of his brain cells died off before the kid sacrificer could do magic CPR on him, duh. gosh.
Speaking of the kid sacrificer, what is going to happen next week when Davos confronts her???
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 20, 2016, 10:14:00 AM
Knowing the visions Daenerys and Bran have had of Kings Landing, plus the discussions of Wildfire stashes....I'm predicting it will go up in flames with Cersei in the finale.
I'm hoping (but not predicting) that they show significant flashbacks that finally reveal the truth about the Tower of Joy.
Post by: Gooch on June 20, 2016, 10:33:22 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 20, 2016, 10:45:56 AM
I'm hoping (but not predicting) that they show significant flashbacks that finally reveal the truth about the Tower of Joy.
I'm hoping and predicting it.
Post by: AppleJack on June 20, 2016, 11:06:43 AM
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 20, 2016, 11:07:14 AM
Post by: pissclams on June 20, 2016, 11:21:08 AM
Yes Ghost and Nymeria are the only direwolves left. :cry:
don't worry, they can make the dead ones rise from the dead. because game of thrones.
Post by: pissclams on June 20, 2016, 11:21:31 AM
Wun Wun :(
Was he the only giant left in the world?
yes. :frown:
don't worry, they can make the dead ones rise from the dead next season. because game of thrones.
Post by: michigancat on June 20, 2016, 11:23:19 AM
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Post by: michigancat on June 20, 2016, 12:28:35 PM
my favorite part was when jon whined again about being resurrected.
It was really hard on him and he's not gonna go through that bullshit again
Post by: CNS on June 20, 2016, 02:00:25 PM
Post by: pissclams on June 20, 2016, 02:12:31 PM
Quote from: jon and sansa
ohh look winterfell, i want winterfell so freaking bad!smdh
Post by: michigancat on June 20, 2016, 02:16:06 PM
was winterfell really worth dying over? not imo. it's slightly nicer than aggieville. i'd have let ramsey keep that ghetto and find a nicer place.Yeah seems like the wall would be better for defenseQuote from: jon and sansaohh look winterfell, i want winterfell so freaking bad!smdh
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 20, 2016, 02:23:51 PM
was winterfell really worth dying over? not imo. it's slightly nicer than aggieville. i'd have let ramsey keep that ghetto and find a nicer place.Yeah seems like the wall would be better for defenseQuote from: jon and sansaohh look winterfell, i want winterfell so freaking bad!smdh
the ice gate fared better when attacked by giants, but there aren't any giants anymore so :dunno:
winterfell is warmer, i'm gonna go with winterfell.
Post by: Gooch on June 20, 2016, 02:28:05 PM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 20, 2016, 02:32:35 PM
i wonder if jon will find longclaw or if it's gone
It's going to show up conveniently when someone needs to kill a white walker.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 20, 2016, 02:33:49 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 20, 2016, 02:40:57 PM
I don't think he lost it
I was sure he lost it when he almost got crushed, but now I am wondering if this in Longclaw in his hand at Winterfell...
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Post by: asava on June 21, 2016, 03:03:58 PM
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:love: :love: :love: :love:
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Post by: pissclams on June 21, 2016, 09:19:16 PM
*not a big sword guy, personally i would learn magic or drive an at-at
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 22, 2016, 08:15:37 AM
good, seems like a nice sword*
*not a big sword guy, personally i would learn magic or drive an at-at
I think Jon does pretty well with the cards he's been dealt. He's just not smart enough to learn magic, so he had better be good with a sword.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 22, 2016, 08:19:05 AM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 22, 2016, 09:17:17 AM
https://youtu.be/-lcx8gAM6wM?t=2m37s
Post by: star seed 7 on June 22, 2016, 09:22:35 AM
Don't forget that Littlefinger promised Cersei that he would take over Winterfell in exchange for a royal decree making him Warden of the North. So, is he now going to try to take it over from Sansa? And put her head on the spike?
https://youtu.be/-lcx8gAM6wM?t=2m37s
More like his p in her v, then bran is discovered and littlefinger is El mumped
Post by: sys on June 22, 2016, 09:32:22 AM
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Post by: Gooch on June 22, 2016, 01:13:48 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 22, 2016, 01:17:24 PM
gonna have to fine a new guy (or gal) to hitch my wagon to as know stud Ramsey got completely screwed.
I would consider Lord Baelish.
Post by: Gooch on June 22, 2016, 01:18:24 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 22, 2016, 01:19:35 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 22, 2016, 01:21:29 PM
Hopefully Jaime can get turned around and be evil again
I'd prefer for him to stop being Cersei's bitch, ergo less evil.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 22, 2016, 01:24:10 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 22, 2016, 01:27:08 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 22, 2016, 01:27:32 PM
You prefer boring crap
I think Jamie being his own man and doing his own things is a lot more interesting than skulking around Kings Landing as Cersei's lapdog.
Post by: Gooch on June 22, 2016, 01:30:47 PM
* sister tho :sdeek:
Post by: star seed 7 on June 22, 2016, 01:32:55 PM
Post by: pissclams on June 22, 2016, 01:36:42 PM
The king's landing stuff this season has taken a lot of criticism, but I really enjoy it. Cersei is such a train wreck. Hopefully her trial has a big payoff.
i just want her to grow her hair back (did they have extensions back then?) so she can be hot again.
Post by: mocat on June 22, 2016, 01:47:45 PM
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Post by: Kat Kid on June 22, 2016, 02:10:22 PM
The king's landing stuff this season has taken a lot of criticism, but I really enjoy it. Cersei is such a train wreck. Hopefully her trial has a big payoff.
i just want her to grow her hair back (did they have extensions back then?) so she can be hot again.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Lena_Headey_Primetime_Emmy_Awards_2014.jpg)
Post by: michigancat on June 22, 2016, 02:58:41 PM
Don't forget that Littlefinger promised Cersei that he would take over Winterfell in exchange for a royal decree making him Warden of the North. So, is he now going to try to take it over from Sansa? And put her head on the spike?
https://youtu.be/-lcx8gAM6wM?t=2m37s
I'd completely forgotten about that
Post by: pissclams on June 22, 2016, 03:22:48 PM
The king's landing stuff this season has taken a lot of criticism, but I really enjoy it. Cersei is such a train wreck. Hopefully her trial has a big payoff.
i just want her to grow her hair back (did they have extensions back then?) so she can be hot again.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Lena_Headey_Primetime_Emmy_Awards_2014.jpg)
well then they need to fire the game of thrones make up artist because they're doing a crap job comparo'd to whoever did her for the emmy's
smdh, total vixen
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 22, 2016, 03:25:14 PM
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Post by: Tobias on June 23, 2016, 11:07:07 AM
CNS Jade
lmao
Post by: Tobias on June 23, 2016, 11:07:48 AM
I am evidently not on here enough anymore to catch that one? Is Jade the new Luke?
it's on a different blog
Post by: star seed 7 on June 23, 2016, 11:09:22 AM
I am evidently not on here enough anymore to catch that one? Is Jade the new Luke?
It's not a gE thing, don't worry about it :)
Post by: CNS on June 23, 2016, 11:10:50 AM
Post by: Tobias on June 23, 2016, 11:12:16 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 23, 2016, 11:13:07 AM
You guys have time for two blogs?!?!?!?!? :surprised:
I'm a lonely lonely man
Post by: Tobias on June 23, 2016, 11:17:03 PM
Post by: pissclams on June 24, 2016, 10:44:30 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 24, 2016, 10:48:40 PM
why do some people think that jon is a Targeryen
Book reasons
Post by: asava on June 25, 2016, 11:57:11 AM
why do some people think that jon is a Targeryen
it's the Tower of Joy situation. We still haven't seen how this plays out, but the thought is that Ned is far too honorable of a man to have banged some ho during the war, and that, instead, when he reached the tower of joy and found his sister, Lyanna Stark, with a baby. That baby is theorized to be Lyanna and Rhaegar Targaryen's child. Lyanna asked Ned to take the child and treat him as his own to protect his nephew. Ned, being the super honorable man that he is, lied to everyone in order to keep his vow to his dying/dead sister. If true, Jon Snow is the song of fire and ice, the first union of the northern house of stark and the southern targaryen. Gets pretty intricate in terms of clues and depth, but that's basically it in a nutshell.
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Post by: michigancat on June 25, 2016, 12:35:16 PM
jeez, he's such a dumbass. tough to believe he is some sort of chosen one. it's not like they have dna testing back then, no one would believe such a tale.Howland Reed was there when it all went down.
Post by: michigancat on June 25, 2016, 12:36:07 PM
GoT/Maury mash up would be remarkable.yes it would
Post by: asava on June 25, 2016, 12:47:35 PM
jeez, he's such a dumbass. tough to believe he is some sort of chosen one. it's not like they have dna testing back then, no one would believe such a tale.Howland Reed was there when it all went down.
I keep forgetting that Howland Reed is still out there, not doing anything besides sending his children out into the wilderness to die for Bran.
Post by: sys on June 25, 2016, 12:56:12 PM
jeez, he's such a dumbass.
the other purported heroine, daenerys is also incredibly stupid. it makes it hard to like the story.
Post by: asava on June 25, 2016, 01:05:04 PM
jeez, he's such a dumbass.
the other purported heroine, daenerys is also incredibly stupid. it makes it hard to like the story.
yeah, but what she lacks in smarts she makes up for in dragons and being able to burn down buildings while being in them!
Post by: pissclams on June 25, 2016, 01:33:57 PM
Post by: sys on June 25, 2016, 01:36:19 PM
yeah, but what she lacks in smarts she makes up for in dragons and being able to burn down buildings while being in them!
she treats the dragons like crap tho. why do they put up with it?
Post by: pissclams on June 25, 2016, 01:39:30 PM
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Post by: wetwillie on June 26, 2016, 01:48:15 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 26, 2016, 01:49:01 PM
Do you guys think we are going to see Lyanna Stark tonight?
probably not. i think that will be a next season thing. but maybe!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 26, 2016, 02:26:37 PM
Fanning the episode tonight will be precisely 69 minutes in length :fatty::surprised: :cheers:
Post by: sys on June 26, 2016, 02:39:49 PM
it's a more or less believable concept, and i'm gratified that they're trying to explain those things, but i don't think they did enough to clue the viewer in on jon's supposed post-resurrection depression. he just seemed like a whiny Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Post by: SdK on June 26, 2016, 03:00:22 PM
i saw something that the producers said jon has been suicidal and depressed since his resurrection, which is supposed to explain both his incessant whining about being alive and his incredible dumbassedness.That's exactly what I was telling Canary when we were catching up. He just seems less after coming back.
it's a more or less believable concept, and i'm gratified that they're trying to explain those things, but i don't think they did enough to clue the viewer in on jon's supposed post-resurrection depression. he just seemed like a whiny Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Post by: pissclams on June 26, 2016, 03:12:19 PM
i saw something that the producers said jon has been suicidal and depressed since his resurrection
this is pretty common for people who die/resuscitated irl
Post by: star seed 7 on June 26, 2016, 04:07:47 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 26, 2016, 08:04:55 PM
Do you guys think we are going to see Lyanna Stark tonight?
probably not. i think that will be a next season thing. but maybe!
Switching my vote to yes
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Post by: mocat on June 26, 2016, 09:20:48 PM
Post by: Dub on June 26, 2016, 09:28:39 PM
If the dead can't go south of the Wall then there shouldn't be any issues. Unless the rules of magic suddenly change for no good reason, which has never happened before so pretty unlikely, right?
Didn't they show that it already changed when the white walker kings crossed the barrier into the tree?
So maybe the resurrected dead white walkers can't cross but the Kings can? (Since they were human and turned?)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 26, 2016, 09:29:50 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on June 26, 2016, 09:41:25 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on June 26, 2016, 09:41:42 PM
Post by: TownieCat on June 26, 2016, 09:46:37 PM
Post by: mocat on June 26, 2016, 09:58:53 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on June 26, 2016, 10:02:46 PM
Post by: AppleJack on June 26, 2016, 10:15:34 PM
Post by: ednksu on June 26, 2016, 10:17:40 PM
If the dead can't go south of the Wall then there shouldn't be any issues. Unless the rules of magic suddenly change for no good reason, which has never happened before so pretty unlikely, right?Fan theory is that once little (now marked) Stark crosses the wall it kills the magic. See the hollow they were safe in until he was marked.
Post by: ednksu on June 26, 2016, 10:18:25 PM
Post by: SdK on June 26, 2016, 10:22:42 PM
Post by: Pete on June 26, 2016, 10:51:05 PM
We got two happy endings in a row. They're getting soft
They are now well beyond what George has written, and it shows. I don't mind it at all, but it shows.
Post by: Pete on June 26, 2016, 10:55:31 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 26, 2016, 11:06:42 PM
Post by: sys on June 27, 2016, 01:08:07 AM
the best part was when the librarian guy told gilly and gilly baby to gtfo.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 27, 2016, 08:46:53 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on June 27, 2016, 09:01:38 AM
Post by: Gooch on June 27, 2016, 09:05:02 AM
Post by: mocat on June 27, 2016, 09:38:01 AM
Post by: TownieCat on June 27, 2016, 09:39:06 AM
Cersei going Mad Queen after being completely torn apart by the Faith was fantastic. Also can't want to see what a rebuked Little Finger schemes up, he probably has the strongest army in Westeros right now.
Not for long. Season 7 will likely begin with Dany & Co. arriving in Dorne.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 27, 2016, 09:39:26 AM
JFC Tommeniswas a giant pussy.
Like you wouldn't do the same if you're like 12 and the hot chick banging you died
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 27, 2016, 09:43:10 AM
Cersei going Mad Queen after being completely torn apart by the Faith was fantastic. Also can't want to see what a rebuked Little Finger schemes up, he probably has the strongest army in Westeros right now.
Not for long. Season 7 will likely begin with Dany & Co. arriving in Dorne.
Also, now that the North is united behind Jon all those northerners are a bigger army than just the knights of the Vale, right?
Post by: AppleJack on June 27, 2016, 10:30:42 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 27, 2016, 10:32:13 AM
Look at Cersei out here being a complete stud. Just getting crap done for the good of the realm. #respect
I'm worried Jaime will react negatively to this
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on June 27, 2016, 10:33:40 AM
Post by: mocat on June 27, 2016, 10:42:14 AM
Look at Cersei out here being a complete stud. Just getting crap done for the good of the realm. #respect
I'm worried Jaime will react negatively to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MVplfdNC6E
Post by: wetwillie on June 27, 2016, 10:45:50 AM
Post by: mocat on June 27, 2016, 10:49:34 AM
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on June 27, 2016, 10:51:26 AM
Is there any credence to Tyrion being a secret targaryen?
Yes
Post by: AppleJack on June 27, 2016, 10:53:40 AM
Post by: TownieCat on June 27, 2016, 11:20:42 AM
Joanna Lannister pretty famously died giving birth to Tyrion :dunno:
Dragon whisperer tho.
Post by: TownieCat on June 27, 2016, 11:25:09 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 27, 2016, 11:34:35 AM
Post by: mocat on June 27, 2016, 11:37:05 AM
Post by: TownieCat on June 27, 2016, 11:38:45 AM
Tyrion is a lannister
I agree, but there are reasons why some people (mostly book readers) believe otherwise.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 27, 2016, 11:41:16 AM
This article from a while back shows she was the heir to the throne...http://mashable.com/2016/05/03/game-thrones-heir/#yrij1B6PKuqj
But only because Jaime was in the Kingsguard. After Tommen kicked him out, doesn't that put him back in line for the throne before Cersei?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 27, 2016, 11:41:40 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 27, 2016, 11:42:22 AM
OK, so how is it that Cersei was first in line for the throne?
This article from a while back shows she was the heir to the throne...http://mashable.com/2016/05/03/game-thrones-heir/#yrij1B6PKuqj
But only because Jaime was in the Kingsguard. After Tommen kicked him out, doesn't that put him back in line for the throne before Cersei?
The Baratheons hold the throne, not the Lannisters. Cersei is a Baratheon by marriage.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 27, 2016, 11:44:09 AM
OK, so how is it that Cersei was first in line for the throne?
This article from a while back shows she was the heir to the throne...http://mashable.com/2016/05/03/game-thrones-heir/#yrij1B6PKuqj
But only because Jaime was in the Kingsguard. After Tommen kicked him out, doesn't that put him back in line for the throne before Cersei?
The Baratheons hold the throne, not the Lannisters. Cersei is a Baratheon by marriage.
The window of a king doesn't just get to be Queen in her own right. That's not how it works. The article explains that going back in Robert B's lineage, the next available living line is the Lannister line that ends in Jaime/Cersei.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 27, 2016, 11:48:52 AM
Post by: TownieCat on June 27, 2016, 11:56:33 AM
If Tywin were raising a secret bastard, I think it would be better storytelling if the bastard were Jaime. That way his only real child would be the one he hates. I think all 3 are Lannisters, though.
That would be one helluva a twist considering Jaime and Cersei are twins :D
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 27, 2016, 11:57:47 AM
OK, so how is it that Cersei was first in line for the throne?
This article from a while back shows she was the heir to the throne...http://mashable.com/2016/05/03/game-thrones-heir/#yrij1B6PKuqj
But only because Jaime was in the Kingsguard. After Tommen kicked him out, doesn't that put him back in line for the throne before Cersei?
The Baratheons hold the throne, not the Lannisters. Cersei is a Baratheon by marriage.
The window of a king doesn't just get to be Queen in her own right. That's not how it works. The article explains that going back in Robert B's lineage, the next available living line is the Lannister line that ends in Jaime/Cersei.
Well, really, what is she queen of? She can declare herself queen of the seven kingdoms all she wants, but with the north claiming independence and Dorne and the Iron Islands (probably Highgarden, too) allied with Daenerys, she really only is ruling King's Landing and what Arya left of the Freys. She won't have the title for very long.
Post by: sys on June 27, 2016, 11:58:24 AM
OK, so how is it that Cersei was first in line for the throne?
look, it was a good episode because there was enough crap happening that the viewer didn't get bogged down in all the illogical stupid crap that transpired. but there were still heaping shovelfuls of crap that didn't make any sense. that's what the show is all about.
Post by: mocat on June 27, 2016, 12:01:06 PM
Post by: sys on June 27, 2016, 12:05:39 PM
there were still heaping shovelfuls of crap that didn't make any sense. that's what the show is all about.
https://youtu.be/FpL6Fwu0wkw
exactly.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 27, 2016, 12:07:39 PM
Post by: TownieCat on June 27, 2016, 12:08:30 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 27, 2016, 12:13:12 PM
OK, so how is it that Cersei was first in line for the throne?
look, it was a good episode because there was enough crap happening that the viewer didn't get bogged down in all the illogical stupid crap that transpired. but there were still heaping shovelfuls of crap that didn't make any sense. that's what the show is all about.
https://youtu.be/FpL6Fwu0wkw
Why does Varys call Tyrion "Lord Hand"? He isn't lord of anything. Do you get to be a lord just because you are hand of the King?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 27, 2016, 12:14:48 PM
Speaking of Varys, dude just teleports back and forth between Dorne and Mereen like it's no big deal.
Seems like it would have been more efficient to just meet Dany in Westeros.
Post by: Canary on June 27, 2016, 12:16:22 PM
Jamie better recognize who wears the crown.i'm still thinking that Jaime and Cersei have a falling out and that opens the door for Jaime and Lady Brienne. I have thought that since they first met.
Post by: sys on June 27, 2016, 12:17:45 PM
Speaking of Varys, dude just teleports back and forth between Dorne and Mereen like it's no big deal.
Seems like it would have been more efficient to just meet Dany in Westeros.
someone should be there to meet them, since by their relative speeds the dragons should be arriving about a week before the ships. unless they get tired and drown, of course. i don't know much about long-distance dragon migrations.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 27, 2016, 12:20:57 PM
Of course the season will probably open with dany losing 3/4 of her army to a storm or something
Post by: sys on June 27, 2016, 12:36:20 PM
I thought it was just a few day's voyage. The narrow sea is like 2 days maybe + maybe 5 in slavers Bay?
i really have no idea. just noticed that the dragons were about 5x faster. maybe there are islands where they can stop and wait for the boats to catch up.
that'd be great if a storm killed dany and her army. even better if bran just wargs a dragon, uses it to kill dany then flies it up north and burns all the white walkers and then they all sit around and drink hot cocoa by the fire for the next 19 episodes.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 27, 2016, 12:39:13 PM
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on June 27, 2016, 12:40:40 PM
I was wondering if the dragons could land on a boat to rest. They can't just fly the whole way to Westeros without stopping, can they?
Maybe they float like ducks when they land in the water. :dunno:
Post by: star seed 7 on June 27, 2016, 12:44:19 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on June 27, 2016, 12:46:14 PM
Nvm, slavers Bay is super far away, I forgot
I think they picked up Varys in Dorne.
Post by: Pete on June 27, 2016, 12:49:49 PM
JFC Tommeniswas a giant pussy.
Like you wouldn't do the same if you're like 12 and the hot chick banging you died
This X 1000
Post by: star seed 7 on June 27, 2016, 12:50:39 PM
Nvm, slavers Bay is super far away, I forgot
I think they picked up Varys in Dorne.
I don't think this is correct
Post by: Pete on June 27, 2016, 12:58:53 PM
I thought it was just a few day's voyage. The narrow sea is like 2 days maybe + maybe 5 in slavers Bay?
i really have no idea. just noticed that the dragons were about 5x faster. maybe there are islands where they can stop and wait for the boats to catch up.
that'd be great if a storm killed dany and her army. even better if bran just wargs a dragon, uses it to kill dany then flies it up north and burns all the white walkers and then they all sit around and drink hot cocoa by the fire for the next 19 episodes.
Dude, you can't just warg a dragon like a chicken. crap is hard.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 27, 2016, 01:05:24 PM
Nvm, slavers Bay is super far away, I forgot
I think they picked up Varys in Dorne.
I just looked at the map, and if this is true then Dany is already about 2/3 of the way there and should be pretty safe from storms as she is already through all the open sea area.
Post by: sys on June 27, 2016, 01:26:10 PM
Dude, you can't just warg a dragon like a chicken. crap is hard.
he wargs actual humans simultaneously in the past and present, a dragon in the same time zone would be child's play.
Post by: Yard Dog on June 27, 2016, 01:28:42 PM
Joanna Lannister pretty famously died giving birth to Tyrion :dunno:
The theory surround this is that the mad king lusted after Joanna, and did it very openly. This would mean that at some point he raped and impregnated her.
Full theory here: https://youtu.be/eqVhKOxmJCw
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 27, 2016, 01:32:20 PM
Dude, you can't just warg a dragon like a chicken. crap is hard.
he wargs actual humans simultaneously in the past and present, a dragon in the same (http://time zone) would be child's play.
I'm gonna have to run that by Nick Russell.
Post by: catastrophe on June 27, 2016, 01:32:58 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 27, 2016, 01:34:06 PM
Whatever happened to that Baratheon kid? That was an interesting storyline for a while that seems like it has no place in the overall story anymore.
Gendry?
Post by: mocat on June 27, 2016, 01:34:57 PM
Whatever happened to that Baratheon kid (the bastard from season 1 or 2)? That was an interesting storyline for a while that seems like it has no place in the overall story anymore.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwVKA9YW.gif&hash=25327e50e3ae2b58c2684cf8094b120aa834d53e)
Post by: star seed 7 on June 27, 2016, 01:35:47 PM
Post by: TownieCat on June 27, 2016, 01:37:32 PM
https://twitter.com/joedempsie/status/611249292850950145
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 27, 2016, 01:39:19 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 27, 2016, 01:40:08 PM
Post by: TownieCat on June 27, 2016, 01:41:01 PM
Post by: mocat on June 27, 2016, 01:41:39 PM
Are the people in the North going to feel differently when they find out that Jon isn't Ned's son?
Lyanna was like god-tier popular iirc
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 27, 2016, 01:42:16 PM
He's still a Stark
Yeah but he's also a Targeryan. How do they feel about Targeryans?
Post by: 'taterblast on June 27, 2016, 01:44:48 PM
Post by: sys on June 27, 2016, 01:49:51 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 27, 2016, 01:50:13 PM
He's still a Stark
Yeah but he's also a Targeryan. How do they feel about Targeryans?
One of the good ones tho
Post by: mocat on June 27, 2016, 01:53:10 PM
Post by: wetwillie on June 27, 2016, 01:55:11 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 27, 2016, 01:59:28 PM
If Tywin were raising a secret bastard, I think it would be better storytelling if the bastard were Jaime. That way his only real child would be the one he hates. I think all 3 are Lannisters, though.
That would be one helluva a twist considering Jaime and Cersei are twins :D
Yeah, it would be great.
Post by: TownieCat on June 27, 2016, 01:59:54 PM
Pycelle gettin got by the little birds was pretty great.
I bet the prostitute he said he'd pay later is pissed :shakesfist:
Post by: sys on June 27, 2016, 02:03:09 PM
Pycelle gettin got by the little birds was pretty great.
i thought that was super stupid as was the kid luring lancel. loved the music tho.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 27, 2016, 02:04:17 PM
Pycelle gettin got by the little birds was pretty great.
i thought that was super stupid as was the kid luring lancel. loved the music tho.
Yeah, that just gave a slight chance that Lancel would be able to blow out those candles. Shouldn't have taken that chance at all.
Post by: AppleJack on June 27, 2016, 02:05:31 PM
yeah the music last night was awesome and way different from anything previous in the show
agreed. it was awesome.
Post by: Pete on June 27, 2016, 02:40:10 PM
Dude, you can't just warg a dragon like a chicken. crap is hard.
he wargs actual humans simultaneously in the past and present, a dragon in the same time zone would be child's play.
Title of my next book I write will be "crap Sys doesn't know about dragons." Doubt I can fit into a single book. rough ridin' thing will probably turn into a franchise.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 27, 2016, 02:47:44 PM
Post by: Yard Dog on June 27, 2016, 03:12:07 PM
There are some indications that Tyrion might be a Targaryean, but I hope not. The story is better if he's Tywin's son.
If he is Tywin's son, who do you think the third head of the dragon will be?
Post by: sys on June 27, 2016, 03:20:43 PM
Title of my next book I write will be "crap Sys doesn't know about dragons." Doubt I can fit into a single book. rough ridin' thing will probably turn into a franchise.
i mean, i've been studying dragon warging for most of my adult life, but noneofmybusiness/tealizard, ya know?
Post by: Tobias on June 27, 2016, 03:27:42 PM
Post by: TownieCat on June 27, 2016, 03:40:47 PM
There are some indications that Tyrion might be a Targaryean, but I hope not. The story is better if he's Tywin's son.
If he is Tywin's son, who do you think the third head of the dragon will be?
Dany, Jon, and Bran
Post by: Pete on June 27, 2016, 04:00:34 PM
when i ask for protips on fire breathing snakebirds, I'm hoping my answers are coming from sys fwiw
Common misconception. Dragons have almost zero in common with snakes.
They are essentially a genius level platypus with armor and wings. Though, you can make the argument that they are like dolphins, too.
Post by: sys on June 27, 2016, 04:44:39 PM
you can make the argument that they are like dolphins, too.
that just makes them easier to warg.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 27, 2016, 04:52:44 PM
Post by: asava on June 27, 2016, 05:15:28 PM
Where is Brienne? Varys can travel from Meereen to Dorne and back, and she hasn't even gotten from the Riverlands to Winterfell.
Wait, where did you see Varys get back to Meereen?
Post by: Pete on June 27, 2016, 05:20:48 PM
Where is Brienne? Varys can travel from Meereen to Dorne and back, and she hasn't even gotten from the Riverlands to Winterfell.
Wait, where did you see Varys get back to Meereen?
He didn't. He just went from Meereen to Dorne.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 27, 2016, 05:26:16 PM
Post by: asava on June 27, 2016, 05:26:49 PM
Where is Brienne? Varys can travel from Meereen to Dorne and back, and she hasn't even gotten from the Riverlands to Winterfell.
Jaime also rode from the Riverlands to Winterfell in that time frame. Brienne didn't have a horse tho.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 27, 2016, 05:27:17 PM
Post by: Pete on June 27, 2016, 05:30:22 PM
Also there was martell and tyrell sails in her fleet
crap. Yep. Well, that's a head scratcher as it relates to Brianne. Hmmmmmm
Post by: star seed 7 on June 27, 2016, 05:35:52 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 27, 2016, 05:37:11 PM
Post by: asava on June 27, 2016, 05:43:05 PM
Post by: catastrophe on June 27, 2016, 05:50:33 PM
Where is Brienne? Varys can travel from Meereen to Dorne and back, and she hasn't even gotten from the Riverlands to Winterfell.
Rowboat travel apparently takes a long ass time.
Post by: sys on June 27, 2016, 05:51:59 PM
Post by: sys on June 27, 2016, 06:03:36 PM
Where is Brienne? Varys can travel from Meereen to Dorne and back, and she hasn't even gotten from the Riverlands to Winterfell.
Rowboat travel apparently takes a long ass time.
didn't they row upstream from the castle when they left? are they even going in the right direction?
Post by: Canary on June 27, 2016, 08:44:02 PM
yeah the music last night was awesome and way different from anything previous in the showSdK mentioned the music last night. He hosted a little watch party for the final episode. I liked the music; it always adds to the intensity of emotion in a scene.
Post by: Cire on June 27, 2016, 09:03:58 PM
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Post by: mocat on June 27, 2016, 10:59:49 PM
Post by: sys on June 27, 2016, 11:15:44 PM
that'd make more sense.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 28, 2016, 07:15:26 AM
Post by: TownieCat on June 28, 2016, 08:15:37 AM
I'm surprised the my didn't reveal Jon's twin Meera during the flashback. I guess they're saving that for next season. Probably didn't want to steal the thunder of Jonny T's big reveal.
Or maybe it's possible that that fan theory is false?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 28, 2016, 08:17:50 AM
Post by: michigancat on June 28, 2016, 08:18:55 AM
Post by: Yard Dog on June 28, 2016, 08:35:30 AM
Forget the timelines, all this crap is going on at different times.
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This is the simplest and most obvious explanation.
maybe when all the norsemen were shouting the king in north it was after bran had already warged a dragon, killed dany, burned the white walkers and then turned himself into a tree. arya might even have already murdered sansa and started using her face, in preparation for rough ridin' littlefinger who is bran turned into a tree.
that'd make more sense.
^ You're an idiot.
Post by: Gooch on June 28, 2016, 08:47:44 AM
She and Pod are bumping uglies, I bet.#PodricksMagicCock
Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2016, 08:49:45 AM
Post by: Gooch on June 28, 2016, 08:50:22 AM
Post by: mocat on June 28, 2016, 08:52:22 AM
What if the final scene of the series is of pods 3rd leg? How angry would ksuw be?
how did i never think of tripod before? eff
Post by: michigancat on June 28, 2016, 08:53:47 AM
Post by: Belvis Noland on June 28, 2016, 09:14:49 AM
the rest of my review: the sept/wildfire thing was really well done. The rest was boring predictable crap.
Probably the best 20 minutes in GOT history, IMHO.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 28, 2016, 09:57:10 AM
I'm surprised they didn't reveal Jon's twin Meera during the flashback. I guess they're saving that for next season. Probably didn't want to steal the thunder of Jonny T's big reveal.
Or maybe it's possible that that fan theory is false?
Nah. The show cast Meera to look like Jon's twin - they'll reveal it next season. I didn't see anything in the flashback that necessarily discounts there being another baby in that room. This one is too cool to pass up. Way better than the "Tyrion is a Targaryan" thing.
Also, the whole Kings Landing sequence was amazing this episodes. Arya? Yes. Jon T? Yes. Dany? At least she's on the move - let's get this over with. The best season finale yet? I say yes, even with characters magically teleporting all over the map.
Post by: TownieCat on June 28, 2016, 10:49:27 AM
I'm surprised they didn't reveal Jon's twin Meera during the flashback. I guess they're saving that for next season. Probably didn't want to steal the thunder of Jonny T's big reveal.
Or maybe it's possible that that fan theory is false?
Nah. The show cast Meera to look like Jon's twin - they'll reveal it next season. I didn't see anything in the flashback that necessarily discounts there being another baby in that room. This one is too cool to pass up. Way better than the "Tyrion is a Targaryan" thing.
Also, the whole Kings Landing sequence was amazing this episodes. Arya? Yes. Jon T? Yes. Dany? At least she's on the move - let's get this over with. The best season finale yet? I say yes, even with characters magically teleporting all over the map.
Nothing discounts that there is another baby in the room other than the fact that they only showed and referred to one baby being in the room :facepalm:
Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2016, 10:50:51 AM
Post by: Yard Dog on June 28, 2016, 11:37:49 AM
I'm surprised they didn't reveal Jon's twin Meera during the flashback. I guess they're saving that for next season. Probably didn't want to steal the thunder of Jonny T's big reveal.
Or maybe it's possible that that fan theory is false?
Nah. The show cast Meera to look like Jon's twin - they'll reveal it next season. I didn't see anything in the flashback that necessarily discounts there being another baby in that room. This one is too cool to pass up. Way better than the "Tyrion is a Targaryan" thing.
Also, the whole Kings Landing sequence was amazing this episodes. Arya? Yes. Jon T? Yes. Dany? At least she's on the move - let's get this over with. The best season finale yet? I say yes, even with characters magically teleporting all over the map.
Nothing discounts that there is another baby in the room other than the fact that they only showed and referred to one baby being in the room :facepalm:
Maybe they were trying to hide the other baby from Ned in the style of Luke and Leia? :dunno:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 28, 2016, 11:49:08 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2016, 11:50:19 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 28, 2016, 11:52:19 AM
I'm surprised they didn't reveal Jon's twin Meera during the flashback. I guess they're saving that for next season. Probably didn't want to steal the thunder of Jonny T's big reveal.
Or maybe it's possible that that fan theory is false?
Nah. The show cast Meera to look like Jon's twin - they'll reveal it next season. I didn't see anything in the flashback that necessarily discounts there being another baby in that room. This one is too cool to pass up. Way better than the "Tyrion is a Targaryan" thing.
Also, the whole Kings Landing sequence was amazing this episodes. Arya? Yes. Jon T? Yes. Dany? At least she's on the move - let's get this over with. The best season finale yet? I say yes, even with characters magically teleporting all over the map.
Nothing discounts that there is another baby in the room other than the fact that they only showed and referred to one baby being in the room :facepalm:
Maybe they were trying to hide the other baby from Ned in the style of Luke and Leia? :dunno:
How could they hide this when Ned and Howland have to hop back on their horses and ride away?
Post by: Yard Dog on June 28, 2016, 11:52:44 AM
Maybe littlefinger was in the room, who knows? Can't prove he wasn't
Using his teleporter to swoop in and steal babies. . . that rascally Petyr at it again.
Post by: Yard Dog on June 28, 2016, 11:53:51 AM
I'm surprised they didn't reveal Jon's twin Meera during the flashback. I guess they're saving that for next season. Probably didn't want to steal the thunder of Jonny T's big reveal.
Or maybe it's possible that that fan theory is false?
Nah. The show cast Meera to look like Jon's twin - they'll reveal it next season. I didn't see anything in the flashback that necessarily discounts there being another baby in that room. This one is too cool to pass up. Way better than the "Tyrion is a Targaryan" thing.
Also, the whole Kings Landing sequence was amazing this episodes. Arya? Yes. Jon T? Yes. Dany? At least she's on the move - let's get this over with. The best season finale yet? I say yes, even with characters magically teleporting all over the map.
Nothing discounts that there is another baby in the room other than the fact that they only showed and referred to one baby being in the room :facepalm:
Maybe they were trying to hide the other baby from Ned in the style of Luke and Leia? :dunno:
How could they hide this when Ned and Howland have to hop back on their horses and ride away?
Do you think that Ned just hopped on a horse and carried the baby? I'm guessing he employed a bunch of those wet nurses to help. . .and they could have been in on keeping baby two secret.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 28, 2016, 11:55:52 AM
Maybe littlefinger was in the room, who knows? Can't prove he wasn't
He would have been a kid (teenager?) then though.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2016, 12:07:02 PM
Maybe littlefinger was in the room, who knows? Can't prove he wasn't
He would have been a kid (teenager?) then though.
Well he was 15 when he fought Brandon stark and that's like a few years before tower of joy. He would have been 20ish, Jon's current ageish.
Post by: michigancat on June 28, 2016, 12:07:31 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2016, 12:08:17 PM
young ned looks really weird
Midevil doogie howser
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Post by: TownieCat on June 28, 2016, 12:14:10 PM
young ned looks really weird
Midevil doogie howser
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Post by: pissclams on June 28, 2016, 01:14:23 PM
Maybe littlefinger was in the room, who knows? Can't prove he wasn't
maybe tim mcgraw was there too?
Post by: AppleJack on June 28, 2016, 01:16:27 PM
Maybe littlefinger was in the room, who knows? Can't prove he wasn't
maybe tim mcgraw was there too?
tim mcgraw was not there.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 28, 2016, 01:18:31 PM
A more likely scenario involving Meera is that she will take Bran home to her dad and he will confirm that Ned raised Jon has his bastard instead of as his nephew.
Right. And then he will say, "And since we are on the subject you are actually Jon's twin sister, btw."
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Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2016, 01:51:32 PM
Maybe littlefinger was in the room, who knows? Can't prove he wasn't
maybe tim mcgraw was there too?
Is this a book character?
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Post by: sys on June 28, 2016, 02:28:31 PM
Maybe littlefinger was in the room, who knows? Can't prove he wasn't
maybe tim mcgraw was there too?
Is this a book character?
most likely arya wearing a tim mcgraw face. the hard question is whether she was in mcgraw's timeline or he was in arya's.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 28, 2016, 02:39:19 PM
Post by: mocat on June 28, 2016, 02:45:54 PM
you know who isn't super boring? lady mormont. she's extreme stud.
yes. the mormonts are all over the map because jorah is crazy boring, but jorah's dad jeor? not exactly exciting but he's definitely not boring either
Post by: Gooch on June 28, 2016, 03:03:02 PM
she is. you know who isn't super boring? lady mormont. she's extreme stud.resting bitch face tho
Post by: The Big Train on June 28, 2016, 03:05:26 PM
Maybe littlefinger was in the room, who knows? Can't prove he wasn't
maybe tim mcgraw was there too?
tim mcgraw was not there.
YOU DONT KNOW WHAT AJ!
Post by: pissclams on June 28, 2016, 03:26:53 PM
Maybe littlefinger was in the room, who knows? Can't prove he wasn't
maybe tim mcgraw was there too?
Is this a book character?
most likely arya wearing a tim mcgraw face. the hard question is whether she was in mcgraw's timeline or he was in arya's.
:lol:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 28, 2016, 05:49:09 PM
Also there was martell and tyrell sails in her fleet
Why would the Tyrells even have ships? But you might be right about Dornish ships.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 28, 2016, 06:31:47 PM
Isn't that a gold rose on a green sail in the background?
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Post by: HerrSonntag on June 28, 2016, 07:33:18 PM
It's hard to give a crap since the lannister and Tyrrell lines are endedUhhh i know Tyrion's dick has been taking a break, but its probably not in retirement.
Post by: michigancat on June 28, 2016, 07:33:41 PM
Oh yeahIt's hard to give a crap since the lannister and Tyrrell lines are endedUhhh i know Tyrion's dick has been taking a break, but its probably not in retirement.
Post by: HerrSonntag on June 28, 2016, 07:35:47 PM
Tyrell's all being dead is pretty sad, though.... Maybe they'll unearth Garth Tyrell from under the rock that he's been hiding for the whole show.It's hard to give a crap since the lannister and Tyrrell lines are endedUhhh i know Tyrion's dick has been taking a break, but its probably not in retirement.
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i assume there's shitloads of cousin lannisters and tyrells that we just haven't met yet.Sorry, Barantheons
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 28, 2016, 08:42:25 PM
Loras had Bros
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In the books, Willas is heir to Highgarden and Loras is the youngest son. But in the show Loras is the heir so I think that means he doesn't have any brothers.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 28, 2016, 09:16:12 PM
A more likely scenario involving Meera is that she will take Bran home to her dad and he will confirm that Ned raised Jon has his bastard instead of as his nephew.
Bran doesn't need that confirmation. He can see it.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 28, 2016, 09:20:27 PM
I mean the shot was pretty close up on Ned, Lyanna, and the baby. There was probably a bunch more of the room that we didn't see.
I agree. Howland Reed has a bigger role to play than just Ned's old war buddy. Meera Reed has a bigger role to play than just babysitting Bran.
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A more likely scenario involving Meera is that she will take Bran home to her dad and he will confirm that Ned raised Jon has his bastard instead of as his nephew.
Bran doesn't need that confirmation. He can see it.
Fine, but Bran will need help from Howland to get other people to believe him.
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Post by: asava on June 29, 2016, 12:08:20 AM
and 8 years in, we meet Howland Reed. :flush:
just had this conversation with someone else. in all that time where the Starks needed help, and howland is just absent. pretty dumb.
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Post by: mocat on June 29, 2016, 11:26:59 AM
i can't lol at it yet :frown:
i'm surprised anyone can, but here we are!
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 29, 2016, 01:07:00 PM
I'm confused tho. One got killed off last year and the other one was sent packing. Odd timing for the pic.
It was fake.
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Post by: star seed 7 on June 29, 2016, 01:08:50 PM
Now that I realize that poor little girl is just an actress and wasn't really burned at the stake, I find that picture very diverting.
Just an actor's penis too
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https://www.facebook.com/AccuWeather/videos/10154232171792889/
stopped watching when she said "velaskwez"
Post by: SdK on June 29, 2016, 04:58:32 PM
So it was really snowing a lot and a big blizzard when Stannis and his men died on their way to Winterfell. But then it didn't really seem all that snowy during the Battle of the Bastards months later...............so why is that? The storm let off? They were further south than Stannis? It seems like it should have been more wintry during BotBs.They were north of the wall. Stannis.
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Post by: Gooch on June 29, 2016, 05:12:22 PM
They burned a child and the snow meltedEXACTLY. So why is that one guy so pissed? It's not like they wasted a child entirely. I would burn a child alive to get rid of all the days in the summer over 90.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 29, 2016, 05:16:24 PM
They burned a child and the snow meltedEXACTLY. So why is that one guy so pissed? It's not like they wasted a child entirely. I would burn a child alive to get rid of all the days in the summer over 90.
You make a great point
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 29, 2016, 05:55:59 PM
Post by: SdK on June 29, 2016, 06:30:33 PM
No. Stannis was on his way from Castle Black to Winterfell.Whoops.
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Post by: mocat on June 29, 2016, 11:00:20 PM
Yeah he found out in ep9, yelled at her in ep10
WTF was he doing in 9 3/4??
Post by: mocat on June 29, 2016, 11:00:49 PM
Yeah he found out in ep9, yelled at her in ep10
WTF was he doing in 9 3/4??
Wrong fantasy magic series
Post by: sys on June 29, 2016, 11:05:34 PM
Yeah he found out in ep9, yelled at her in ep10
i'm not sure how colombo of the sea deduced that mel burned the kid from finding a charred toy.
Post by: asava on June 29, 2016, 11:18:34 PM
Yeah he found out in ep9, yelled at her in ep10
WTF was he doing in 9 3/4??
He was doing what all Onion Knights do when faced with the flames of anger: He was stewing.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 30, 2016, 12:02:45 AM
Yeah he found out in ep9, yelled at her in ep10
i'm not sure how colombo of the sea deduced that mel burned the kid from finding a charred toy.
Mel burns somebody like every other day, so it would have been my first guess, too.
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if he'd have been all - "melsie, you're always trying to kill the children of kings and now our king's child seems to have come up dead, hows about you tell me what happened" about 8 episodes back, i'd have found it a lot more believable than the one random old dude who gives a crap about carved deer toys stumbling across the only carved deer toy within a 1000 miles, squinting at it for a bit and then suddenly piecing together a child's murder.He found it at night, too!
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eyes wide shut bros killed denis clemente :frown:
Grey worm is strong
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Post by: Canary on August 20, 2016, 10:09:40 AM
John Snow getting that Infiniti money. :thumbs:I was going to post something along this line earlier in the week. How long until someone else from the show turns up in advertising?
Post by: Asteriskhead on August 20, 2016, 10:26:30 AM
John Snow getting that Infiniti money. :thumbs:
Who?
Post by: ednksu on August 20, 2016, 11:10:27 AM
You know nothingJohn Snow getting that Infiniti money. :thumbs:
Who?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 20, 2016, 11:31:48 AM
John Snow getting that Infiniti money. :thumbs:I was going to post something along this line earlier in the week. How long until someone else from the show turns up in advertising?
He's not the first.
Post by: Canary on August 20, 2016, 11:33:27 AM
I'll have to pay closer attention. Who else so I can be looking for them?John Snow getting that Infiniti money. :thumbs:I was going to post something along this line earlier in the week. How long until someone else from the show turns up in advertising?
He's not the first.
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Post by: Asteriskhead on August 20, 2016, 11:33:30 AM
You know nothingJohn Snow getting that Infiniti money. :thumbs:
Who?
Look at the exchange a little closer, dumbfuck.
Post by: SdK on August 20, 2016, 12:04:03 PM
The redhead free folk. His name escapes me.I'll have to pay closer attention. Who else so I can be looking for them?John Snow getting that Infiniti money. :thumbs:I was going to post something along this line earlier in the week. How long until someone else from the show turns up in advertising?
He's not the first.
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Post by: SdK on August 20, 2016, 12:05:47 PM
Jon Snow? John Targaryen? Jon Targaryen? John Stark? Jon Stark? What am I missing?You know nothingJohn Snow getting that Infiniti money. :thumbs:
Who?
Look at the exchange a little closer, dumbfuck.
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Post by: CNS on August 20, 2016, 01:19:33 PM
The redhead free folk. His name escapes me.I'll have to pay closer attention. Who else so I can be looking for them?John Snow getting that Infiniti money. :thumbs:I was going to post something along this line earlier in the week. How long until someone else from the show turns up in advertising?
He's not the first.
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Tormond, or something
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Post by: SdK on August 20, 2016, 01:57:35 PM
There's no hGlad I covered all of my bases. :)
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Post by: TownieCat on June 21, 2017, 01:55:40 PM
That second trailer. Lone wolf dies, pack survives. No Jon!I highly doubt that is what the quote refers to, but you never know!
My guess is it something that Sansa says to Petyr right before he dies.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 21, 2017, 01:59:52 PM
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I thought you moved this weekend:lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: SdK on June 21, 2017, 02:40:36 PM
I hope so. Don't like that guy.That second trailer. Lone wolf dies, pack survives. No Jon!I highly doubt that is what the quote refers to, but you never know!
My guess is it something that Sansa says to Petyr right before he dies.
Post by: Tobias on June 21, 2017, 03:11:34 PM
I thought you moved this weekend
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Post by: Gooch on June 21, 2017, 03:39:53 PM
what became of the hotel room?Living with some friends thank Odin.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 21, 2017, 03:40:34 PM
what became of the hotel room?Living with some friends thank Odin.
Bluemont room
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When can i watch this crap on hbogo? As soon as the epi is over?
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Gtfo. You serious, Clark?When can i watch this crap on hbogo? As soon as the epi is over?
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Post by: catastrophe on July 17, 2017, 09:45:26 AM
The north remembers
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Aria has been probably my favorite storyline throughout. I wonder if she is going to return to Winterfell next epi or just keep going down her list of people to murder.
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Post by: catastrophe on July 17, 2017, 10:56:03 AM
Yeah, she's going to kings landing. Several people on her list are there.
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Post by: TownieCat on July 17, 2017, 11:09:58 AM
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How the hell did they neglect to burn Wun Wun's corpse?!
Wun wun died at winterfell, noob.
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There was more than one zombie giant iircYes.
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Post by: Kat Kid on July 17, 2017, 11:20:28 AM
got has done a lot of cameos over the years
anything like that? Maybe I am just sour on the episode. can you give another example? I can't remember anything like that.
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Post by: mocat on July 17, 2017, 11:25:20 AM
Nothing that blatant. Coldplays drummer or maybe the band the National was the red wedding band playing Rains of Castameregot has done a lot of cameos over the years
anything like that? Maybe I am just sour on the episode. can you give another example? I can't remember anything like that.
Post by: Institutional Control on July 17, 2017, 11:26:01 AM
got has done a lot of cameos over the years
anything like that? Maybe I am just sour on the episode. can you give another example? I can't remember anything like that.
Ian McShane
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so is Ed Sheeran. Did you not see the bastard executioner?No x2
Post by: TownieCat on July 17, 2017, 11:41:31 AM
Wun Wun died in winterfell you ignorant rube
Yeah, and this wight has a striking resemblance to him. :rolleyes:
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Post by: TownieCat on July 17, 2017, 11:45:00 AM
There was more than one zombie giant iircYes.
There were 3 giants in Bran's vision and we have met 3 giants in the series. Coincidence? Doubtful.
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Love watching TownieCat try to understand this show
Happy to help :D
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Not surprising that TownieCat is a poser GOT fan.Get lost, dork.
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TownieCat's fav character on GOT is Ed Sheeran.Your PI-ing skills were never great, but they've really gone downhill since you had a kid.
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Post by: Kat Kid on July 17, 2017, 03:34:02 PM
five minutes of a rocky training in the russian winter montage except with libraries and crap and on the payoff we get an "oh yeah, i guess i knew that". and the dumbass didn't even get a weight on the heart.
it was a poorly run lab, I think we can all agree that it was shoddy science.
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Lady Mormont delivered again, she needs more playing time.
Leads the show in PER by a wide margin.
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more than anything, i feel that sam's father has been treated very unjustly by the writers. he may have seemed harsh to the ignorant bystander, but he had the right of it all along.
If there were a few more seasons to go and they were still doing 10 episodes I wouldn't mind him coming for his sword and redeeming himself in some way. . .but there is simply not enough time to include much beyond the main players.
I am still convinced the destruction of the sept last season was just to get rid of as many storylines as possible before the home stretch.
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is this the same director as the ep where Jamie got his hand cut off and then it instacut to the offspring jam?
Post by: mocat on July 18, 2017, 06:56:58 AM
Jamie got his hand cut off and then it instacut to the offspring jam?
Foreshadowing? :surprised:
Post by: SdK on July 18, 2017, 07:55:22 AM
Of course the crazy looking wilding has eyes for the giant lady mentoring the kid with the giant penishttps://www.instagram.com/p/BWrk_UxAgnt/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BWrk_UxAgnt/)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 18, 2017, 08:11:58 AM
What if Jon and the redhead hooked up? That would be pretty mumped up, right?
Well they are only cousins, not siblings so it wouldn't be too bad.
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http://loudwire.com/mastodon-drummer-brann-dailor-cameo-game-of-thrones-season-7-premiere/
Post by: michigancat on July 18, 2017, 09:08:50 AM
The drummer from Mastodon was also in it.Hope he plays the bongos on a future ep
http://loudwire.com/mastodon-drummer-brann-dailor-cameo-game-of-thrones-season-7-premiere/
Post by: catastrophe on July 18, 2017, 09:29:38 AM
Post by: michigancat on July 18, 2017, 09:33:02 AM
It really never ceases to amaze me the sheer number of people who watch shows like GoT just so they can complain about everything in it.I mean I really enjoyed the books and the show but then I realized the books never were getting finished and everyone was just always resurrected after they got killed so the whole show was like *yawn* and now I have fun watching it with a healthy dose of skepticism.
Post by: pissclams on July 18, 2017, 09:41:03 AM
It really never ceases to amaze me the sheer number of people who watch shows like GoT just so they can complain about everything in it.I mean I really enjoyed the books and the show but then I realized the books never were getting finished and everyone was just always resurrected after they got killed so the whole show was like *yawn* and now I have fun watching it with a healthy dose of skepticism.
that's the best way to take in a show about dragons and zombies and stuff
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 18, 2017, 10:17:48 AM
Post by: pissclams on July 18, 2017, 10:43:46 AM
daenerys targaryen? yep, the faceless man. her dragons? his dog.
basically the show is about a guy in detroit who has schizophrenia and sees all of these illusions around him and tries to hurt himself
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 18, 2017, 10:50:42 AM
Post by: dmartin on July 18, 2017, 10:55:33 AM
another theory is that when cersei and jaime were boning in S1 E1 and bran saw them, it wasn't really them- it was the faceless man pretending to be cersei and jaime boning and it was the faceless man who threw bran off the tower. EXCEPT, it wasn't really bran, it was the faceless man pretending to be bran.
daenerys targaryen? yep, the faceless man. her dragons? his dog.
basically the show is about a guy in detroit who has schizophrenia and sees all of these illusions around him and tries to hurt himself
That's almost as crazy as the "ned stark is alive and it was the faceless man that was beheaded instead" theory.
Post by: catastrophe on July 18, 2017, 11:11:56 AM
There's a theory out there that Arya isn't really Arya - it's another Faceless Man pretending to be Arya (Jaquen or the Waif). That wouldn't really make sense unless the Many Faced God just happened to want the Freys dead too.
Yea, that wouldn't really make sense at all. Why pretend to be Arya pretending to be someone else? People go a little crazy with these things, although it is kinda fun to imagine the possibilities.
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Post by: michigancat on July 18, 2017, 12:42:02 PM
I have found almost no fault in any scene in any episode of this series. You guys really need to embrace suspension of disbelief, or put another way, lighten the eff up and have some fun.
I had a great time watching it. But come on, walking on the map and naming towns was pretty rough ridin' awful
Post by: dmartin on July 18, 2017, 12:58:55 PM
I have found almost no fault in any scene in any episode of this series. You guys really need to embrace suspension of disbelief, or put another way, lighten the eff up and have some fun.
I had a great time watching it. But come on, walking on the map and naming towns was pretty rough ridin' awful
Maybe that's how they play hopscotch in King's Landing
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 18, 2017, 01:07:08 PM
I have found almost no fault in any scene in any episode of this series. You guys really need to embrace suspension of disbelief, or put another way, lighten the eff up and have some fun.
I had a great time watching it. But come on, walking on the map and naming towns was pretty rough ridin' awful
Well, Jamie was standing on the fingers and Cersei was standing on the neck, so obviously he's going to end up strangling her.
Post by: mocat on July 18, 2017, 01:16:40 PM
I have found almost no fault in any scene in any episode of this series. You guys really need to embrace suspension of disbelief, or put another way, lighten the eff up and have some fun.
I had a great time watching it. But come on, walking on the map and naming towns was pretty rough ridin' awful
Well, Jamie was standing on the fingers and Cersei was standing on the neck, so obviously he's going to end up strangling her.
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Post by: TownieCat on July 18, 2017, 01:26:01 PM
As awful as michcat's review was, it's still better than towniecat thinking that only three giants exist
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Never said only 3 giants exist, just pointed out that we have seen 3 giants and that there were 3 giant wights in Bran's vision. Are they the same 3? Maybe not, but it's possible.
Post by: SdK on July 18, 2017, 07:31:10 PM
Post by: treysolid on July 19, 2017, 08:34:08 AM
I'm hearing reports the cameo was for Ms. Williams. She's a big fan. It was a surprise for her.
arya gets what arya wants
Post by: dmartin on July 19, 2017, 08:56:21 AM
I'm hearing reports the cameo was for Ms. Williams. She's a big fan. It was a surprise for her.
arya gets what arya wants
or someone gets the blade. Unless that's what Arya wanted, then someone gets the blade anyway
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Post by: sys on July 24, 2017, 03:52:31 AM
I'm glad those idiot sand snakes are dead
i'd like to agree, yet, sam still lives. even if they give him greyscale, that piece of crap will milk his dying till the finale.
Post by: puniraptor on July 24, 2017, 08:22:17 AM
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Also Sam and jorah together is maybe worse television than Janice soprano and skylar white teaming up
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Post by: mocat on July 24, 2017, 08:47:17 AM
What a worthless storyline
tell that to the writer
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Post by: pissclams on July 24, 2017, 08:47:28 AM
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Post by: ChiComCat on July 24, 2017, 09:17:00 AM
Can someone explain the deal with Arya and the wolf. Was that hers and is it supposed to not really like her now that she left it and it has already made a bunch of new wolf friends?
It was her wolf. It likes her enough not to eat her but not enough to give up wolf life. Wouldn't be surprised if it pops up to save her in the next few episodes.
Post by: mocat on July 24, 2017, 09:20:38 AM
Post by: pissclams on July 24, 2017, 09:21:34 AM
Can someone explain the deal with Arya and the wolf. Was that hers and is it supposed to not really like her now that she left it and it has already made a bunch of new wolf friends?
flashback to season 1 when she told ned "that's not me" about being a lady.
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/07/game-of-thrones-what-did-arya-mean-not-you-direwolf-nymeria-stormborn
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on July 24, 2017, 01:26:55 PM
I liked the Sam scenes. Why does everyone hate Sam? The character development and dialogue are what I enjoy most about this show. Some of the battle sequences are truly awesome (Hardhome), and some of them are much more mundane hack-fests (Battle of the Bastards), but the character development is nearly always terrific.
No Dorne in the first episode! +1000!
I don't even like Dany that much but I thought her homecoming was well executed.
I've got Episode 2 on the DVR for this evening!
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 24, 2017, 01:35:19 PM
Sam is def GRRM's version of himself
Yes. Sam is never actually going to finish his maester training and will never complete his book.
Post by: mocat on July 24, 2017, 01:53:58 PM
Who was Sam in the gE thread
just checked.... nobody was sam :surprised:
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Post by: Yard Dog on July 24, 2017, 02:54:51 PM
Has there ever been a more hateable character on this show than Jon Snow?
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Post by: mocat on July 24, 2017, 02:59:34 PM
Has there ever been a more hateable character on this show than Jon Snow?
:bait: :Booty Shake: :don'tcare:
get out of here Mord
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 24, 2017, 05:12:20 PM
Has there ever been a more hateable character on this show than Jon Snow?
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It's the man-bun, isn't it?
Post by: puniraptor on July 24, 2017, 05:39:30 PM
good to see the ironborne actually living up to the hype and not looking like huge loser p-words like every other ep
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Post by: wetwillie on July 24, 2017, 08:45:11 PM
how about the dragon crossbow that qyburn made. this from a guy who made the mountain, and a big crossbow is all he can come up with to save his people. and cersai acting impressed? that thing sucks.
"Hold still ten feet away from this big contraption please Drogon" :lol:
Post by: star seed 7 on July 24, 2017, 08:50:30 PM
Post by: pissclams on July 24, 2017, 08:51:26 PM
hey dragon let me put this against your skull and pull the trigger really quick and tell your buddies to come here too
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Post by: pissclams on July 24, 2017, 08:52:19 PM
I'm guessing they are making crap loads, you chowderheads
it's. a. crossbow. ONLY BIGGER.
Post by: star seed 7 on July 24, 2017, 08:53:35 PM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 24, 2017, 08:59:36 PM
Also, did you guys notice that the new Dickon Tarly is Billy Bones from Black Sails?
Post by: star seed 7 on July 24, 2017, 09:02:05 PM
Post by: sys on July 24, 2017, 09:16:13 PM
A ballista bolt through the eye killed one of the original 3 or something
good ol' qyburn. trying to pass off common knowledge on how to kill dragons as a clever invention.
Post by: OK_Cat on July 24, 2017, 09:39:46 PM
I'm going to be really upset if a dragon gets killed.
Also, did you guys notice that the new Dickon Tarly is Billy Bones from Black Sails?
100% that at least one will die.
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 24, 2017, 10:19:38 PM
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Post by: SdK on July 24, 2017, 11:13:14 PM
How did that one fleet know where to finds the other fleet so he could take the lesbian queens prisoners?Dragon Stone isn't super far from Kings landing.
Post by: _33 on July 24, 2017, 11:38:54 PM
Post by: sys on July 25, 2017, 12:21:26 AM
so he could take the lesbian queens prisoners?
sonofabitch, i thought he killed them all. goddamn and eff.
Post by: star seed 7 on July 25, 2017, 07:33:27 AM
33, did you notice that the invader pirate people were cutting off the tongues of the loser pirate people
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 25, 2017, 08:31:21 AM
33, did you notice that the invader pirate people were cutting off the tongues of the loser pirate people
I noticed that and I said "They don't have time for that." But then I read an article that reminded me why they were doing that (from the books). But this isn't the book thread so I won't discuss it here.
Post by: mocat on July 25, 2017, 08:39:47 AM
33, did you notice that the invader pirate people were cutting off the tongues of the loser pirate people
I noticed that and I said "They don't have time for that." But then I read an article that reminded me why they were doing that (from the books). But this isn't the book thread so I won't discuss it here.
we're past the books; just tell us. i don't remember anything about tongues
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Post by: TownieCat on July 25, 2017, 11:11:03 AM
33, did you notice that the invader pirate people were cutting off the tongues of the loser pirate people
I noticed that and I said "They don't have time for that." But then I read an article that reminded me why they were doing that (from the books). But this isn't the book thread so I won't discuss it here.
It's also in the show prior to this, kind of. Balon says something to Euron about it before he's thrown off of the bridge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve_Hb3Eh-cY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve_Hb3Eh-cY)
Post by: _33 on July 25, 2017, 11:23:55 AM
Post by: catastrophe on July 25, 2017, 12:07:22 PM
littlefinger is gonna eff some crap up before it's all said and done
All he ever does is talk about how much he wants (or wanted) to bang Jon's mom and sister. It's really weird, but in a pretty funny way. Especially when he insisted on talking about it at Ned's grave.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 25, 2017, 12:16:00 PM
I forgot that I also saw the scene where that one guy (king?) strangled that other guy because he said something about his sister. So what was up with that smug look the guy that got strangled gave when he was looking up at that girl on the balcony? My theory is that's the sister and he's going to do bad stuff to her while that guy (king?) is away on his horse.
It took me a while to figure out that you are talking about Jon Snow (King in the North) and Littlefinger.
Post by: star seed 7 on July 25, 2017, 12:16:32 PM
I forgot that I also saw the scene where that one guy (king?) strangled that other guy because he said something about his sister. So what was up with that smug look the guy that got strangled gave when he was looking up at that girl on the balcony? My theory is that's the sister and he's going to do bad stuff to her while that guy (king?) is away on his horse.
The king dude's uncle gave the smug dude a huge scar on his smug chest when smug dude tried to slide up in king's uncle's gf's dm's. Then the uncle died and that chick married king dudes dad but it's not really his dad and the king bro doesn't know it
Post by: star seed 7 on July 25, 2017, 12:23:31 PM
P exciting huh 33?
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 25, 2017, 01:15:29 PM
So the king dude thinks he's a bastard son of his dad and some rando but really his mom is his dad's sister and his real dad is the dragon lady's big brother so the king guy is going to go meet his aunt but has no idea that the dragon lady is his aunt.
P exciting huh 33?
It's going to be very exciting when he bones his aunt and then figures it out later, sort of like on Joe Dirt.
Post by: star seed 7 on July 25, 2017, 03:50:34 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 25, 2017, 03:52:04 PM
What if euron's ship clamps on to Jon's ship and euron kills the eff out of Jon before he can eff his aunt
I don't think that will happen. Jon has Stark blood in him. That seed is strong. He'll find a way to bone her.
Post by: star seed 7 on July 25, 2017, 03:58:31 PM
Post by: SdK on July 25, 2017, 03:58:45 PM
What if euron's ship clamps on to Jon's ship and euron kills the eff out of Jon before he can eff his auntWho do you all think is his Aunt? Am I all mixed up thinking it was his sister?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 25, 2017, 03:59:40 PM
What if euron is really Arya and Arya takes Jon's dead face and bones her cousin's aunt?
I could see that happening, actually.
Post by: star seed 7 on July 25, 2017, 04:00:37 PM
What if euron's ship clamps on to Jon's ship and euron kills the eff out of Jon before he can eff his auntWho do you all think is his Aunt? Am I all mixed up thinking it was his sister?
Dany is Jon's aunt. They are roughly the same age though
Post by: TownieCat on July 25, 2017, 04:03:37 PM
I forgot that I also saw the scene where that one guy (king?) strangled that other guy because he said something about his sister. So what was up with that smug look the guy that got strangled gave when he was looking up at that girl on the balcony? My theory is that's the sister and he's going to do bad stuff to her while that guy (king?) is away on his horse.
The king dude's uncle gave the smug dude a huge scar on his smug chest when smug dude tried to slide up in king's uncle's gf's dm's. Then the uncle died and that chick married king dudes dad but it's not really his dad and the king bro doesn't know it
So the king dude thinks he's a bastard son of his dad and some rando but really his mom is his dad's sister and his real dad is the dragon lady's big brother so the king guy is going to go meet his aunt but has no idea that the dragon lady is his aunt.
P exciting huh 33?
This was very well done. Anyone who has never seen the show could be caught up just by reading those two posts.
Post by: mocat on July 25, 2017, 04:06:05 PM
mad king's youngest two kids were viserys (who years later got notre dame'd by khal drogo) and daenerys.
daenerys would have been born right around the same time as jon snow
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Post by: SdK on July 25, 2017, 05:59:48 PM
I take it back. Wouldn't it be cousin?What if euron's ship clamps on to Jon's ship and euron kills the eff out of Jon before he can eff his auntWho do you all think is his Aunt? Am I all mixed up thinking it was his sister?
Dany is Jon's aunt. They are roughly the same age though
Post by: SdK on July 25, 2017, 06:00:50 PM
Nm. I'm caught up.I take it back. Wouldn't it be cousin?What if euron's ship clamps on to Jon's ship and euron kills the eff out of Jon before he can eff his auntWho do you all think is his Aunt? Am I all mixed up thinking it was his sister?
Dany is Jon's aunt. They are roughly the same age though
Post by: SdK on July 25, 2017, 06:01:10 PM
Nm. I'm caught up.I take it back. Wouldn't it be cousin?What if euron's ship clamps on to Jon's ship and euron kills the eff out of Jon before he can eff his auntWho do you all think is his Aunt? Am I all mixed up thinking it was his sister?
Dany is Jon's aunt. They are roughly the same age though
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on July 25, 2017, 10:02:07 PM
Post by: sys on July 27, 2017, 12:36:54 AM
hooray, he's gonna die!
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Post by: WildcatNkilt on July 29, 2017, 02:46:04 PM
So how do they reveal that jon snow is a targaryan? Does denaerys decide to burn him alive after he won't bend the knee only to find he doesn't burn? Does bran do something relevent for once and tell everyone? Or does littlefinger know and spill the beans? Have to assume it will come fairly soon.
Somehow Bran has to get the message across. How would Littlefinger know?
Post by: TownieCat on July 30, 2017, 06:08:27 PM
IIRC in an earlier season Littlefinger and Sansa were in the crypts, and Sansa was talking about how Rhaegar "raped" Lyanna. The look on his face when she said that gave the impression that he knows another side to the story than what is popular belief.So how do they reveal that jon snow is a targaryan? Does denaerys decide to burn him alive after he won't bend the knee only to find he doesn't burn? Does bran do something relevent for once and tell everyone? Or does littlefinger know and spill the beans? Have to assume it will come fairly soon.
Somehow Bran has to get the message across. How would Littlefinger know?
Still a stretch that he knows Jon is their love child.
Post by: star seed 7 on July 30, 2017, 06:41:10 PM
IIRC in an earlier season Littlefinger and Sansa were in the crypts, and Sansa was talking about how Rhaegar "raped" Lyanna. The look on his face when she said that gave the impression that he knows another side to the story than what is popular belief.So how do they reveal that jon snow is a targaryan? Does denaerys decide to burn him alive after he won't bend the knee only to find he doesn't burn? Does bran do something relevent for once and tell everyone? Or does littlefinger know and spill the beans? Have to assume it will come fairly soon.
Somehow Bran has to get the message across. How would Littlefinger know?
Still a stretch that he knows Jon is their love child.
lots of people know that rhaegar kidnapping and raping lyanna isn't really the true story, but robert won the war and gets the paint the history as he likes. I don't think littlefinger knows who jon snow "truly" is, but he certainly knows that lyanna wasn't exactly an unwilling participant.
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Post by: Pete on July 31, 2017, 06:18:02 AM
Lady Tyrell being awesome until the bitter end. :love:
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Yep. That was great.
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Post by: Belvis Noland on July 31, 2017, 12:08:33 PM
also, pretty stupid question, I'm sure, but why isn't Sansa automatically the Queen of the North? Or, notwithstanding Bran being a complete weirdo/creepster now, shouldn't he automatically be King, whether he wants to or not? isn't that way monarchy back then worked?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 31, 2017, 12:29:23 PM
the ending for the sand snakes was pretty awful. but, I was hoping for something a bit more gruesome - assumed Sir Gregor would explode some heads or something.
also, pretty stupid question, I'm sure, but why isn't Sansa automatically the Queen of the North? Or, notwithstanding Bran being a complete weirdo/creepster now, shouldn't he automatically be King, whether he wants to or not? isn't that way monarchy back then worked?
They both have strong claims, but neither would get the throne unless the sitting king decided to give it to them or they managed to get enough support from local nobles to defeat the sitting king in war. Possession was 90% of the law then, too.
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 31, 2017, 01:07:51 PM
the ending for the sand snakes was pretty awful. but, I was hoping for something a bit more gruesome - assumed Sir Gregor would explode some heads or something.
also, pretty stupid question, I'm sure, but why isn't Sansa automatically the Queen of the North? Or, notwithstanding Bran being a complete weirdo/creepster now, shouldn't he automatically be King, whether he wants to or not? isn't that way monarchy back then worked?
They both have strong claims, but neither would get the throne unless the sitting king decided to give it to them or they managed to get enough support from local nobles to defeat the sitting king in war. Possession was 90% of the law then, too.
yeah, but how did the sitting king (Jon Snow) get it in the first place - other then being a leader/warrior, etc? as long as the blood line was alive, seems like it would go to the oldest male heir or, if presumed non existed, to the oldest female heir.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 31, 2017, 01:13:44 PM
the ending for the sand snakes was pretty awful. but, I was hoping for something a bit more gruesome - assumed Sir Gregor would explode some heads or something.
also, pretty stupid question, I'm sure, but why isn't Sansa automatically the Queen of the North? Or, notwithstanding Bran being a complete weirdo/creepster now, shouldn't he automatically be King, whether he wants to or not? isn't that way monarchy back then worked?
They both have strong claims, but neither would get the throne unless the sitting king decided to give it to them or they managed to get enough support from local nobles to defeat the sitting king in war. Possession was 90% of the law then, too.
yeah, but how did the sitting king (Jon Snow) get it in the first place - other then being a leader/warrior, etc? as long as the blood line was alive, seems like it would go to the oldest male heir or, if presumed non existed, to the oldest female heir.
He took it from the acting warden of the north on the battlefield.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on July 31, 2017, 01:34:33 PM
Tyrian is finally getting some quality screen time. :thumbs:
Cersei is at her best as a character when she's enjoying a steaming hot plate of revenge. Holy Cersei! Ditto for Lady O - what a finish. Oh and Euron is definitely getting way better as a character!
So Bran decides to trigger some extremely painful memories for Sansa just to prove he can see stuff? I would have gone with "btw, Jon and Meera are half-Targaryan twins."
And damn - time and space is starting to get realllly flexible in this series. Jon traveling from Winterfell to Dragonstone, Greyworm and Euron sailing their navies to the other side of Westeros, Jorah all healed up. All in the blink of an eye. And the battles in this episode were both extremely underproduced for their significance. Everything feels kind of rushed and slopped together this season - more like checking off boxes.
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Post by: TownieCat on July 31, 2017, 02:43:23 PM
btw, Jon and Meera are half-Targaryan twins
I understand the logic behind this theory, but there was not a second child in the Tower of Joy scene.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on July 31, 2017, 02:50:08 PM
btw, Jon and Meera are half-Targaryan twins
I understand the logic behind this theory, but there was not a second child in the Tower of Joy scene.
Damn right you understand the logic. And we don't know for certain there wasn't a second child in that scene - they may have only shown us one. :woot: Even if the show wusses out, it's gonna be in the books (eventually)!!
Post by: star seed 7 on July 31, 2017, 02:51:56 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on July 31, 2017, 02:53:14 PM
That siege of casterly rock with voice over was the worst scene in the series
It was pretty bad.
And I get that they don't have unlimited resources - that doesn't change the fact that it looked very slopped togeher.
Back when they had even less money, they were planning on not showing the Battle of Blackwater Bay at all - just describing it in soldiers' reports to Cersei. Glad they didn't do that.
Post by: TownieCat on July 31, 2017, 03:02:35 PM
The siege scene could have been better, but there has been little build up for it compared to the other major battles (Blackwater, Castle Black, Bastards) in earlier seasons. Better to just move the pieces into place and continue moving forward.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 31, 2017, 03:03:48 PM
With only about 13 or so hours left in the series, time is more valuable resource than money is at this point. GOT prints cash for HBO.
The siege scene could have been better, but there has been little build up for it compared to the other major battles (Blackwater, Castle Black, Bastards) in earlier seasons. Better to just move the pieces into place and continue moving forward.
They would have 20 hours left if they wouldn't have told HBO they only wanted 13, though.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on July 31, 2017, 03:09:08 PM
With only about 13 or so hours left in the series, time is more valuable resource than money is at this point. GOT prints cash for HBO.
The siege scene could have been better, but there has been little build up for it compared to the other major battles (Blackwater, Castle Black, Bastards) in earlier seasons. Better to just move the pieces into place and continue moving forward.
They would have 20 hours left if they wouldn't have told HBO they only wanted 13, though.
Right. And it's the Battle for Casterly Rock. Tyrion storming his own castle! I get not showing the battle for Highgarden - totally unnecessary, but Casterly Rock is this almost mythical place in the books (I know it's all mythical) often mentioned but almost never "seen." Maybe it'll stay that way in the books - who knows - but the show really slopped through it.
Post by: TownieCat on July 31, 2017, 03:12:51 PM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2017, 03:22:35 PM
I won't be satisfied until Daenerys bangs Jon Snow.You guys are focusing on the wrong things here.
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i liked the abbreviated battles. i hate those chaos of war style battle scenes like in last episode.
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Post by: star seed 7 on July 31, 2017, 03:57:01 PM
I was fine with not showing the battle for Casterly Rock, since they used the explanation of entering through the sewers, plus the Lannisters basically abandoning it as a way to explain how easy it was to take. I was more bothered with how quickly and easily Jaime was able to take Highgarden, really. That is a huge castle that should have at least required a long siege.
Sam's dad took her army tho
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what is this a terrible horror movie?
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Post by: halfEmpty on August 01, 2017, 06:03:54 AM
Wait till arya gets there :excited:
Arya is going to end littlefinger's run on the show. He's on her list. Only clegane made it off her list.
Post by: Pete on August 01, 2017, 06:21:54 AM
I overlooked Cersei telling the banker her debts would be paid in full in a fortnight. Interesting.
In Highgarden they were packing up stacks of gold bricks.
Post by: TownieCat on August 01, 2017, 12:26:09 PM
Wait till arya gets there :excited:
Arya is going to end littlefinger's run on the show. He's on her list. Only clegane made it off her list.
When did that happen? Doubt the guy is even on her radar yet. But he probably will be when she gets to Winterfell and finds out he gave Sansa away to a psychopath who raped her.
Beric and Thoros are also on that list, but they seem like good dudes who may be pardoned.
Post by: halfEmpty on August 01, 2017, 01:27:32 PM
Wait till arya gets there :excited:
Arya is going to end littlefinger's run on the show. He's on her list. Only clegane made it off her list.
When did that happen? Doubt the guy is even on her radar yet. But he probably will be when she gets to Winterfell and finds out he gave Sansa away to a psychopath who raped her.
Beric and Thoros are also on that list, but they seem like good dudes who may be pardoned.
you're right. I for some reason thought he was on the list. You are also right that he soon will be. I still think Arya takes him out before the season ends. Other bold predictions. Jon Snow almost dies again(ok, so not very bold), but of course doesn't. At least 1 dragon dies before season end. Cersei will go through at least one more roller coaster ride before she is finally dispatched. Meaning she'll look like she is close to being defeated only to rise to the top again.
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Post by: halfEmpty on August 01, 2017, 03:35:50 PM
At what point does Jaime end up killing Cersei? This season?
I would guess next season. They won't kill her off this year. I bet they have their falling out this season though. I think his convo with Lady Tyrell was the precursor to that.
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wait so there is going to be a season 8?yes, 6 episodes. Might be longer but hbo doesn't want to go to 2 hours long (communists)
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 01, 2017, 05:42:01 PM
I overlooked Cersei telling the banker her debts would be paid in full in a fortnight. Interesting.
In Highgarden they were packing up stacks of gold bricks.
I def missed that. Thanks.
Post by: ednksu on August 01, 2017, 10:33:38 PM
i would watch 6 five-hour episodes"We haven't had that discussion yet because I don't know how long the episodes are going to be. Two hours per episode seems like it would be excessive, but it's a great show, so who knows?"
seems like HBO penny pinching.
"We haven't had that discussion yet because I don't know how long the episodes are going to be. Two hours per episode seems like it would be excessive, but it's a great show, so who knows?"
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no one ever really dies in this rough ridin' show
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I know she was talking a bank but good grief
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oh lord this "faith in myself" monologue. so rough ridin' boring
I agree. Jon should have done one of those blah blah blah talky hand gestures at that point. Or maybe just interjected with "bitch please, I was stabbed to death. Top that."
Post by: mocat on August 03, 2017, 11:42:58 PM
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It's mycroft
Perfect for the role.
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Post by: asava on August 04, 2017, 07:02:00 PM
Sounds like the rest of this season has now been leaked online. I plan to keep enjoying them one week at a time, like taking sips of a fine wine rather than chugging a bottle. I hope if anyone chooses to watch ahead they'll avoid spoilers or making "predictions."
All of em?? Didn't see this.
Post by: puniraptor on August 04, 2017, 07:06:01 PM
Sounds like the rest of this season has now been leaked online. I plan to keep enjoying them one week at a time, like taking sips of a fine wine rather than chugging a bottle. I hope if anyone chooses to watch ahead they'll avoid spoilers or making "predictions."
All of em?? Didn't see this.
i accidentally scrolled past weird b-roll footage spoiler scenes on youtube
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I was sure Bran was going to tell Jon's sister she's Jon's sister. I guess they're saving that for later. Also, if Bran can see everything why can't he see who supplied the knife? (I thought this was common knowledge it was Cersei but maybe I'm misremembering that).
Post by: nicname on August 06, 2017, 11:43:33 PM
Head to toe chills when Dany rolled in Dragon Deep
Fistpump when Braun shot that [redacted].
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Oh no you didn't!Head to toe chills when Dany rolled in Dragon Deep
Fistpump when Braun shot that [redacted].
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 07, 2017, 08:30:40 AM
could we talk about the dagger more tho? :flush:
It's going to end up important somehow, a drawing of it was in the book that told Sam about dragonglass on dragonstone
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Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 07, 2017, 09:11:52 AM
cersei tried to have bran killed with it, and now arya wants to kill cersei with it. why 15 minutes of screen time for that? :zzz:
I think it will play a bigger part than that. In episode 1 I think Sam was looking through the book and the dagger was pictured. This dagger will probably kill Cersei and Littlefinger, but I think it will also be the template of how they build weapons with dragonglass.
Post by: catastrophe on August 07, 2017, 09:35:38 AM
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My one complaint this season is all the main characters seem invincible.
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but it did remind me, wtf happened to Gendry?
Post by: AppleJack on August 07, 2017, 10:26:38 AM
He is proficient with a different sword
his dong
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my friend is pretty convinced Raegar is not Jon's father. Lyanna could have been knocked up by Robert Baratheon before absconding with Raegar. i doubt that is the case but w/e.
but it did remind me, wtf happened to Gendry?
Davos helped him escape from dragonstone/Stannis/red chick in a rowboat and hasn't been seen since
Post by: mocat on August 07, 2017, 10:46:21 AM
my friend is pretty convinced Raegar is not Jon's father. Lyanna could have been knocked up by Robert Baratheon before absconding with Raegar. i doubt that is the case but w/e.
but it did remind me, wtf happened to Gendry?
Davos helped him escape from dragonstone/Stannis/red chick in a rowboat and hasn't been seen since
yeah i know but what has he been up to? he's coming back this season fyi
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yeah i know but what has he been up to? he's coming back this season fyi
Are we doing spoilers now ITT or what?
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Post by: pissclams on August 07, 2017, 12:02:32 PM
lol at the idea that dany will rule the 7 kingdoms
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lol at the idea that dany will rule the 7 kingdoms
Maybe!
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 07, 2017, 12:16:14 PM
also ksuw, why are you obsessed with the meera reed is jon snow's sister idea? i understand the subtle hints in the books, bu the show has offered up nothing to lead you to believe they're heading that way. also what would be the point?
The show offered one big hint: casting Meera to look like Jon's sister. That's a pretty big hint. And I don't think they gave her this big a role (relatively speaking) just to be Bran's sherpa. But mainly I just insert this anytime I can to annoy and/or humor people.
Post by: halfEmpty on August 07, 2017, 01:23:03 PM
I would think that if BranRaven had no problem talking to his sister about her horrible wedding, he wouldn't have any remorse telling the girl who has been dragging him around for several years, "Oh hey, BTW, your dad isn't really your dad"
Speaking of that. Do we ever meet Meera's dad? Considering he is the only other living person outside of Bran that know's Jon's parentage. He might be necessary to prove that fact.
Jaime obviously lives, maybe we don't see him in the next episode, but he still has to kill Cersei (she is too paranoid of Tyrion to allow him to be the one to do it) And what does Cersei have to do to finally cause Jaime to snap and not follow her blindly?
The dagger will be used to kill Littlefinger. Beyond that, I'm sure it has some significance with the white walkers. Maybe it is the only weapon that can kill the night king. you'd think Bran would've figured that out by now though.
I thought the same thing about the dothraki. If Dany helps Jon, they better get the seamstresses working round the clock to get them some thicker underwear.
What's with Theon? Does anyone really care about his storyline any more? I'm guessing they're keeping him around so he can sacrifice himself for somebody.
How slow is the Army of the Dead? Everyone else zips around the continent, but it apparently takes them years to march the same distance Meera dragged Brandon in a few episodes. I can't imagine dead people need to stop for food or rest. Unless they are being calculating, waiting for something to break the magic of the wall.
Post by: pissclams on August 07, 2017, 02:18:04 PM
grmm is going to slap the look off of all of your faces when she prevails and jon and dragon lady die from dysentery
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Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 07, 2017, 02:39:09 PM
WNK's Prediction by the end of the series:
Winterfell - Starks (duh and with Sansa at the helm)
Casterly Rock - Jamie Lannister
The Riverlands - Edmure Tully (he is still being held captive)
Stormlands - Gendry!
The Vale - Robin Arryn (he is still alive and rightful ayre)
The Reach (Highgarden) - See below.
Dorne - See below.
The Reach and Dorne will go to Dany and Jon's most trusted. This could be those who came over from Essos and/or the Free Folk that were north of the wall.
Others:
Iron Islands - Theon will rule the Iron Islands. His sister will have been slaughtered by her uncle. Theon will end up killing him and will overcome his PTSD.
The Wall - Jorah Mormont will join the wall as a choice and take the reigns like his father before him.
Brienne of Tarth - She will go back to Stormlands or stay with Sansa.
Dany and Jon will be in King's Landing making tons of Targaryen babies. The King and Queen's council will consist of Tyrion, Bran, Varys and Samwell Tarly.
Cersei and Littlefinger will be dead...unfortunately, as will Arya, Bronn, and the Cleganes.
The 7 Kingdom's are united, with the common enemy being White Walkers north of the wall.
If the above doesn't happen, then my money is on the White Walkers killing everyone.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 07, 2017, 03:51:14 PM
I would think that if BranRaven had no problem talking to his sister about her horrible wedding, he wouldn't have any remorse telling the girl who has been dragging him around for several years, "Oh hey, BTW, your dad isn't really your dad"
Speaking of that. Do we ever meet Meera's dad? Considering he is the only other living person outside of Bran that know's Jon's parentage. He might be necessary to prove that fact?
Howland Reed and Meera being Jon's twin sister are more book things than a show things. With Meera leaving the show might not further develop that story.
What's with Theon? Does anyone really care about his storyline any more? I'm guessing they're keeping him around so he can sacrifice himself for somebody.
Theon is going to redeem himself by at least trying to save his sister.
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How did sam learn to read? We never saw any training
Sam could read before the show started, couldn't he? (I really don't know.)
But Dany's dragons were clearly not obeying her at all not too long ago. Maybe she was training them on the trip across the narrow sea?
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Which reminds me, were the two dorks who planned to steal a dragon part of the show? Or was that just the books? what was the point of that little plotline?
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 09, 2017, 02:51:13 PM
No, I don't think the dragon thieves were in the show. That was just a diversion to make you think that Dany might hook up with that one kid who was like a Dornish prince or something.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 09, 2017, 02:51:40 PM
she trained them to breath fire like a long ass time ago, didn't she?
Which reminds me, were the two dorks who planned to steal a dragon part of the show? Or was that just the books? what was the point of that little plotline?
They were part of the show. I think the point was to get Dany into that weird building where they could foreshadow a whole bunch of stuff that was going to get cut out of the show anyway.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 09, 2017, 02:51:57 PM
The warlocks in qarth?
No, he's talking about some kid who was hanging out with a guy with a blue beard.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 09, 2017, 02:52:24 PM
she trained them to breath fire like a long ass time ago, didn't she?
Which reminds me, were the two dorks who planned to steal a dragon part of the show? Or was that just the books? what was the point of that little plotline?
They were part of the show. I think the point was to get Dany into that weird building where they could foreshadow a whole bunch of stuff that was going to get cut out of the show anyway.
No he's talking about a different set a dragon thieves, I think.
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2017, 02:53:56 PM
The warlocks in qarth?
no it was that dork quentyn martell
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 09, 2017, 02:55:11 PM
Edit: Oh yeah it was Quentyn Martell going by the name Frog.
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2017, 02:57:51 PM
Wasn't his name Frog or something like that? It's been so long since I've read the books.
Edit: Oh yeah it was Quentyn Martell going by the name Frog.
the mercenaries that quentyn rode with to Mereen start calling him the frog bc he's such a huge dork
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 09, 2017, 03:04:33 PM
Post by: catastrophe on August 09, 2017, 03:09:38 PM
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2017, 03:13:34 PM
Was there a guy with a blue beard or was that just Darrio?
pretty sure just daario.
illyrio mopatis has a yellow beard iirc
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2017, 03:14:04 PM
the answer is jon snow and samwell tarly and maybe, i'm not sure yet
Post by: star seed 7 on August 09, 2017, 03:14:29 PM
Post by: michigancat on August 09, 2017, 03:17:42 PM
THERE ARE ZOMBIES WE HAVE TO FIGHT
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2017, 03:17:57 PM
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2017, 03:19:56 PM
I don't remember the blue beard. I thought in the books the dragon thief pair included a cousin of hers or something? Not like it matters.
god dammit mich, it's quentyn martell and his lackeys
Post by: star seed 7 on August 09, 2017, 03:21:17 PM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 09, 2017, 03:29:20 PM
#2 Did either of the other 2 dragons even do anything against Jaime's army?
#3 Obviously Jon & Tyrion are going to ride the dragons since they are both Targaryens.
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2017, 03:41:40 PM
Post by: catastrophe on August 09, 2017, 03:52:38 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 09, 2017, 03:58:33 PM
since aerys and tywin and joanna are all dead, how would tyrion find out he is aerys' son?
Bran probably already knows and he just hasn't mentioned it yet. Tyrion will inexplicably be able to ride a dragon and then in the last episode Bran will say "Oh yeah, Tyrion is a Targaryen, didn't you all know?"
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 09, 2017, 04:00:07 PM
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2017, 04:25:52 PM
Did Cersei just have one giant cross bow made?
qyburn said there were lots of them at the dungeon expo '17
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 09, 2017, 04:30:12 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 09, 2017, 04:33:56 PM
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2017, 04:43:33 PM
Maybe we find out Jaime is the secret Targ. He falls in love with Dany, goes back and strangles Cersei with his sold gold hand, and then flies his dragon straight to the moon so he can light the moon boy on fire.
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Post by: AppleJack on August 09, 2017, 04:51:43 PM
Post by: Pete on August 09, 2017, 05:13:00 PM
she has three dragons and can only ride one at a time, who is she going to let ride the other two? and will the care to be mounted by someone other than their mother?
the answer is jon snow and samwell tarly and maybe, i'm not sure yet
Question: Why do you think Hot Pie was reintroduced this season?
Answer: He's going to be a Dragon jockey.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 09, 2017, 05:20:46 PM
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2017, 05:25:55 PM
Post by: Pete on August 09, 2017, 05:25:56 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 09, 2017, 06:30:23 PM
since aerys and tywin and joanna are all dead, how would tyrion find out he is aerys' son?
Bran probably already knows and he just hasn't mentioned it yet. Tyrion will inexplicably be able to ride a dragon and then in the last episode Bran will say "Oh yeah, Tyrion is a Targaryen, didn't you all know?"
He's not a Targ so not an issue. Meera is the third. But for purposes of the show it really doesn't matter whether there are two more riders or not. In fact I kinda doubt we'll see Jon or Meera riding dragon style.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 09, 2017, 08:10:56 PM
If Jon, Dany, and Tyrion are all Targaryen's, who is the rightful ayre? Do they create a democracy at the end?
Jon and Tyrion are bastards so Dany is still the heir.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 09, 2017, 08:11:26 PM
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Post by: michigancat on August 09, 2017, 08:31:48 PM
it's in the epi 6 script.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 10, 2017, 08:32:45 AM
obv jon snow drew the night zombie guy
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Post by: mocat on August 11, 2017, 10:42:42 AM
Post by: The Big Train on August 11, 2017, 10:53:49 AM
Post by: sys on August 11, 2017, 12:02:17 PM
i can't link it because 4chan, but somebody put "fortunate son" by ccr over the loot train dragon attack, forrest gump style and it's absolutely amaze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLG23nZQB24
:dunno:
Post by: mocat on August 11, 2017, 12:03:17 PM
Post by: Pete on August 11, 2017, 12:19:54 PM
i can't link it because 4chan, but somebody put "fortunate son" by ccr over the loot train dragon attack, forrest gump style and it's absolutely amaze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLG23nZQB24
:dunno:
That was fun. The dragon CGI is amazing.
Post by: Pete on August 13, 2017, 07:49:36 PM
...So, tonight does Jamie drown and get revived ala Iron Born? Or, do they get cute and not even address him this episode?
Isn't it time for some Hound, and maybe Arya? I bet she kills him, and Beric and the red priest resurrect him or some crap.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 13, 2017, 08:50:37 PM
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Post by: michigancat on August 13, 2017, 09:22:14 PM
Post by: joda on August 13, 2017, 09:22:44 PM
It's always the son
Yep, that's why there's so much riding on Jon being legitimate. He's the rightful Targ.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 13, 2017, 09:23:01 PM
Is it weird there's a Bron and a Bran
No. Also FYI there are about a million Brandon Starks in the history of the Stark family.
Post by: michigancat on August 13, 2017, 09:23:37 PM
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 13, 2017, 10:45:13 PM
It's always the son
Yep, that's why there's so much riding on Jon being legitimate. He's the rightful Targ.
It depends upon if Rhaegar was killed before or after Aeres II. If after, then Rhaegar was king, and Jon has he best claim. If before, Jon's just the son of a prince and Rhaegar's siblings have better claims. I'm sure the sequence of deaths is explained in the books but I'm not sure it's been explained in the show.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 13, 2017, 10:48:34 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 13, 2017, 10:58:07 PM
It doesn't matter, jon has a weiner
Yeah, grandsons are ahead of daughters.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 13, 2017, 11:06:55 PM
Ooooh the intrigue!
But the more interesting part of this episode is that Jon is gonna ride a dragon. And if the show is adding a dragon rider, that means they'll be needing a third. And that means.... MEERA!!!
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(Like this except on bigass dragons)
Post by: joda on August 13, 2017, 11:15:36 PM
TL:DNR John is king
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 14, 2017, 07:20:07 AM
I'm guessing Jon's birthright is revealed by Sam making the connection once he somehow realizes the significance of what Gilly said.
By the way, very interesting developments for Sam this episode!
I liked that the writers inserted the "still rowing" fan joke for
Oooh Arya and Littlefinger play cat and mouse.... don't care. Littlefinger has possibly become the most boring character. Worse than Bran.
The "let's teleport Jon north of the wall and rendezvous with the hound" story all seems a bit overly contrived and stupid but we'll see.
Post by: halfEmpty on August 14, 2017, 07:59:23 AM
The jaunt north of the wall is foolish and Tyrion will once again be played by his sister. She basically said as much to Jaime. Love her or hate her, Cersei is still playing the game better than anyone. Even if they are successful in capturing a wight, do they really think Cersei gives a rip? Half of the group are destined to die in this little adventure. Good way to kill off a few characters I suppose. Question is who? I doubt it is Gendry. Why bring him back just to kill him off an episode later. Although, I was surprised to see Dickon meet the business end of dragonfire so quickly. But really, are we going to be blessed with an episode of them just dragging a wight around westoros to get everyone to believe them?
Speaking of Cersei. If she has said baby, does that mean the prophecy will not entirely come true? I'm guessing something happens before that baby pops out.
And on Gendry, I'm still puzzled at what part he has to play. I still think he might eventually be a love interest for Arya if she can ever get out of beast-mode.
Oh Sam. Thanks Gilly for the little tidbit. Hopefully that was one of the books you brought with you as I'm sure it will be important later. Alas, I don't think Jon finds out he is a Targaryan this season. Next year I suppose. Will the Northern Lords turn on him when he is discovered to be half Targ, and now apparently non-bastard Targ? I still think Howland Reed has a story to tell, but with Bran pissing off Meera, maybe not any more.
And what about the Maester's inaction? If all-seeing Bran really wanted to get their attention, why not send some cryptic message outlining private details of all of them, basically showing them, I can see what you do, now do you believe me?
Post by: SdK on August 14, 2017, 08:41:03 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 14, 2017, 08:52:31 AM
Isn't there enough story left to tell without all this temporally implausible globetrotting?
And if Dany has already decided she needs an armistice to fight the undead, then why the hell doesn't she fly her happy ass up there, have Drogan grab up a wight, and bring back the proof? Nothing about this makes any sense.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 14, 2017, 08:58:14 AM
Hopefully the stupid Brothers without Banners members all die. Do they think they are just going to be able to go grab one wight and not have to face a huge group of them? WTF, Jon Snow knows nothing.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 14, 2017, 09:14:20 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 14, 2017, 09:16:29 AM
It would take like a week to sail from dragonstone to eastwatch, some of you people try to think too hard
How long does it take to get from Dragonstone to King's Landing? 5 minutes?
Post by: star seed 7 on August 14, 2017, 09:17:55 AM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 14, 2017, 09:40:25 AM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 14, 2017, 09:47:02 AM
They could save a lot of time by just killing the drunk from the Brotherhood without banners and then bringing his body back home with them. Isn't that how they got the wight in Castle Black?
I suggested this but Gooch says that the Night King has to raise up his hands for dead people to rise into wights. (ala what he did during the Hardhome battle)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 14, 2017, 09:50:16 AM
By boat? Probably half a day if that
It looks to be about 250-300 miles on the maps I've found. Are you telling me that Davos/Tyrion can row at more than 30 miles per hour? Even when you add Gendry that seems a bit fast for a row boat.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 14, 2017, 09:50:35 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 14, 2017, 09:51:13 AM
By boat? Probably half a day if that
It looks to be about 250-300 miles on the maps I've found. Are you telling me that Davos/Tyrion can row at more than 30 miles per hour? Even when you add Gendry that seems a bit fast for a row boat.
You don't rowboat the whole way good grief smdh
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 14, 2017, 09:52:44 AM
By boat? Probably half a day if that
It looks to be about 250-300 miles on the maps I've found. Are you telling me that Davos/Tyrion can row at more than 30 miles per hour? Even when you add Gendry that seems a bit fast for a row boat.
You don't rowboat the whole way good grief smdh
Well they should have because Cersei obviously saw whatever ship they took to get part way there.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 14, 2017, 09:53:15 AM
Post by: halfEmpty on August 14, 2017, 12:21:59 PM
I saw a table of the distance between KL and dragonstone was closer to 100/150 miles. probably take a ship half a day to a day to make that trip.
Post by: michigancat on August 14, 2017, 12:26:25 PM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 14, 2017, 01:28:07 PM
I don't get it either. I also don't get how hard it is to pull up a map and look at how far KL is from Dragonstone.
Uh, yeah that's what I did.
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 14, 2017, 02:50:55 PM
This show has zombies and dragons and some of you are hung up on travel time. Jfc get a grip.
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Post by: SdK on August 14, 2017, 02:55:05 PM
This show has zombies and dragons and some of you are hung up on travel time. Jfc get a grip.
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Post by: stunted on August 14, 2017, 03:22:45 PM
question, why do so many not believe in white walkers when there's a gigantic ice wall and the night's watch?
Post by: star seed 7 on August 14, 2017, 03:30:54 PM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 14, 2017, 03:35:22 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 14, 2017, 03:35:42 PM
why do they need the night's watch then? protection from the ice gingers?
If you mean the free folk, then yes.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 14, 2017, 03:47:43 PM
why do they need the night's watch then? protection from the ice gingers?
If you mean the free folk, then yes.
The Night's Watch also became the best option outside of death for criminals and rejects in the 7 kingdoms. It was talked about early in the series how the Night's Watch is small compared to what it was generations before. All towers used to be heavily fortified and manned. Up until recently the Night's Watch was really only at Castle Black.
Post by: joda on August 14, 2017, 04:29:16 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 14, 2017, 04:33:32 PM
i would love to watch 4 episodes of them sitting in a boat. :jerk:
Or you could craft the story in a more believable way that doesn't involve Jon and other characters repeatedly traversing vast distances in the blink of an eye while an army of the undead advances slower than a glacier. This latest adventure north of the wall is as dumb as Jamie and Bron's adventures in Dorne (also concocted for the show).
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 14, 2017, 04:35:09 PM
Only thing that's really going bug me, is that if Jon is wandering north of the Wall and they don't include Ghost somehow I'm going to be pissed. I get all the reasons they've avoided using Ghost in the show, but based on the entire character development Jon going into the wild without him is completely un fathomable. Even if they just put some blurry white streaks taking out enemies I'll be a little satisfied, but at least acknowledge that Jon has his own big, badass companion creature.
So Ghost and Nymeria are all that are left? What happened to Bran's dog?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 14, 2017, 04:36:16 PM
Only thing that's really going bug me, is that if Jon is wandering north of the Wall and they don't include Ghost somehow I'm going to be pissed. I get all the reasons they've avoided using Ghost in the show, but based on the entire character development Jon going into the wild without him is completely un fathomable. Even if they just put some blurry white streaks taking out enemies I'll be a little satisfied, but at least acknowledge that Jon has his own big, badass companion creature.
So Ghost and Nymeria are all that are left? What happened to Bran's dog?
He died when Hodor died.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 14, 2017, 04:43:16 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 14, 2017, 04:52:14 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 14, 2017, 05:32:03 PM
Post by: Pete on August 14, 2017, 06:23:43 PM
why do they need the night's watch then? protection from the ice gingers?
Couple thousand years makes people skeptical (e.g. Western religions, etc). Makes sense to me.
Post by: Pete on August 14, 2017, 06:27:33 PM
It's like watching a B-movie and enjoying it for it being a B-movie at this point
Mich, its like one of the most popular shows ever, with the greatest production quality of any show ever.
Obviously it's America, and I am not going to tread on you, but you are in the minority here, pal.
Also, it hurts our feelings when you make fun of stuff we love. :sad:
Post by: michigancat on August 14, 2017, 06:37:22 PM
Don't read my posts if you don't like them.It's like watching a B-movie and enjoying it for it being a B-movie at this point
Mich, its like one of the most popular shows ever, with the greatest production quality of any show ever.
Obviously it's America, and I am not going to tread on you, but you are in the minority here, pal.
Also, it hurts our feelings when you make fun of stuff we love. :sad:
:gocho:
Post by: joda on August 14, 2017, 06:42:16 PM
I assume that Ghost was left at Winterfell. Jon just went straight from Dragonstone to East watch so Ghost wouldn't be there with him...
Ghost and Jon have that Warg bond. It wouldn't be at all out of context for Ghost to just take off and through the wall somehow before Jon. It's more out of character for Jon to just leave Ghost behind while ranging north. That would be like Dany suddenly deciding she was going to just wander into Kings Landing with a couple people while her drangons sunbathed on the beaches of Dragonstone.
Post by: Pete on August 14, 2017, 07:02:56 PM
Don't read my posts if you don't like them.It's like watching a B-movie and enjoying it for it being a B-movie at this point
Mich, its like one of the most popular shows ever, with the greatest production quality of any show ever.
Obviously it's America, and I am not going to tread on you, but you are in the minority here, pal.
Also, it hurts our feelings when you make fun of stuff we love. :sad:
:gocho:
How do I know if I don't like your posts if I don't read them?
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 14, 2017, 08:56:05 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 14, 2017, 09:22:19 PM
Rusty seems like more of a walking dead kind of guy.
:Keke:
Post by: michigancat on August 14, 2017, 10:28:38 PM
Post by: stunted on August 15, 2017, 03:05:49 AM
ksuw = :curse:
Post by: Cire on August 15, 2017, 04:19:47 AM
Non issue.
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 15, 2017, 08:08:42 AM
It's a fantasy series, but even fantasy series should obey the rules of the world they create, and one of the rules is that travel is as slow as it was in the real Middle Ages (unless you've got a dragon to ride). When they repeatedly trash those rules, it just starts to look more and more contrived.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 15, 2017, 08:19:48 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on August 15, 2017, 08:51:10 AM
i would love to watch 4 episodes of them sitting in a boat. :jerk:
question, why do so many not believe in white walkers when there's a gigantic ice wall and the night's watch?
The Wall was built to keep the wildlings from stealing all the good Westeros jobs. #mawa
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 15, 2017, 09:03:32 AM
The books don't explain any of this recent globetrotting, because it isn't in the books. Again, you can say we're only seeing snippets of storylines, but the storylines intersect. So unless the Night King is marching on a treadmill, they should already be in Kings Landing or Dorne by the time Jon skips from Winterfell to Dragonstone, then all the damn way back to Eastwatch for this latest dumb quest.
It's a fantasy series, but even fantasy series should obey the rules of the world they create, and one of the rules is that travel is as slow as it was in the real Middle Ages (unless you've got a dragon to ride). When they repeatedly trash those rules, it just starts to look more and more contrived.
What travel rule has been broken? I personally don't need 3 episodes of Jon riding on a boat to know it took more than 3 seconds to get to eastwatch, maybe your brain just can't handle that.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 15, 2017, 09:40:57 AM
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If Game of Thrones were a videogame, the characters just earned the ability to Fast Travel.
:lol:
Post by: Yard Dog on August 15, 2017, 09:44:07 AM
To that point, the vision that Bran saw in episode 1 with the wight giants is speculated to be after they are on this side of the wall. Many people believe that there might be a psychic battle between Bran and the Night King this season or the next.
I need to go back and rewatch the episode, but I am pretty confident there is a throw away line between Sansa and Arya where they mention that he left Ghost at Winterfell.
Post by: michigancat on August 15, 2017, 09:55:53 AM
why did Robert go to winterfell in the first place?
Post by: ChiComCat on August 15, 2017, 09:58:02 AM
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Post by: catastrophe on August 15, 2017, 10:21:43 AM
why did Robert go to winterfell in the first place?
To recruit Ned Stark.
Post by: Yard Dog on August 15, 2017, 10:40:19 AM
why did Robert go to winterfell in the first place?
To recruit Ned Stark.
Yup. After his Hand of the King Jon Arryn was assassinated because he was going to tell King Robert that all of his children with Cersei were in fact incest babies with Jaimie. We found out in Season 4 that it was actually Jon's wife Lys who did it to gain favor with Littlefinger.
Robert thought Ned would be a great hand and I think also made used the trip because he wanted to marry his eldest son off to Ned's eldest daughter.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 15, 2017, 11:44:05 AM
The Night King and Bran's storylines intersect at the Cave of the 3ER. Bran's storyline intersects with Sansa's storyline at Winterfell. Sansa's storyline intersects with Jon's at Winterfell. So this means the Night King is not only moving so slowly that he hasn't reached the Wall by the time Meera/Benjen towed Bran on a sled all the way to the Wall and then on down to Winterfell, but the Night King is still marching to the Wall by the time Jon spends months sailing from Dragonstone all the way up to Eastwatch.
You avoid this problem by doing something at least plausible, like the Night King attacking Eastwatch as Jon is still on Dragonstone or en route back to Winterfell.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 15, 2017, 11:47:48 AM
Post by: TownieCat on August 15, 2017, 12:29:46 PM
Do we know where the undead army started walking from? Maybe the Night King had to go really far north to recruit before he turned back south?
There were no giant wights at Hardhome (that we know of) so that seems very feasible.
Post by: catastrophe on August 15, 2017, 12:51:17 PM
That's because you assume the dead dudes are marching straight to the wall and you have no evidence of that. They are clearly waiting for something
This. Your outrage is premised on a detail you just made up. Give it a rest already.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 15, 2017, 12:53:23 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 15, 2017, 01:03:40 PM
Can someone do some kind of analysis on that raven's flight path (the one Bran was warged into in the last episode) to see how far away the Night's King is now?
Top is from next episode preview
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 15, 2017, 01:16:05 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 15, 2017, 01:35:37 PM
That's because you assume the dead dudes are marching straight to the wall and you have no evidence of that. They are clearly waiting for something
Gotcha, they're not marching. More like meandering.
Post by: AppleJack on August 15, 2017, 01:43:00 PM
Post by: dmartin on August 15, 2017, 01:45:11 PM
That's because you assume the dead dudes are marching straight to the wall and you have no evidence of that. They are clearly waiting for something
Gotcha, they're not marching. More like meandering.
Maybe the Night King is personally collecting troops, marching them to the wall, and then going and collecting more troops and marching them to the wall. Over and over and over again.....
Post by: ChiComCat on August 15, 2017, 02:59:44 PM
Not to quibble (but I guess, yes, to quibble), you all are making excuses for a weak plot contrivance.
100% this is what we're doing. Also, we're probably enjoying the show a lot more.
Post by: EMAWican on August 15, 2017, 03:49:54 PM
Can someone do some kind of analysis on that raven's flight path (the one Bran was warged into in the last episode) to see how far away the Night's King is now?
That was one thing that made my eyes roll. He can warg into any creature anywhere so why the hell did he randomly pick a flock of ravens that far away when there's probably some wolf or mouse or gull or something right next/above the Night King. Obvs for scenic cutscene and stuff but yeah. Also, those ravens were flying fast as crap and higher than RL ones would.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 15, 2017, 03:59:33 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 15, 2017, 05:02:30 PM
Can someone do some kind of analysis on that raven's flight path (the one Bran was warged into in the last episode) to see how far away the Night's King is now?
That was one thing that made my eyes roll. He can warg into any creature anywhere so why the hell did he randomly pick a flock of ravens that far away when there's probably some wolf or mouse or gull or something right next/above the Night King. Obvs for scenic cutscene and stuff but yeah. Also, those ravens were flying fast as crap and higher than RL ones would.
:blank:
Post by: puniraptor on August 15, 2017, 06:32:19 PM
Can someone do some kind of analysis on that raven's flight path (the one Bran was warged into in the last episode) to see how far away the Night's King is now?
That was one thing that made my eyes roll. He can warg into any creature anywhere so why the hell did he randomly pick a flock of ravens that far away when there's probably some wolf or mouse or gull or something right next/above the Night King. Obvs for scenic cutscene and stuff but yeah. Also, those ravens were flying fast as crap and higher than RL ones would.
:blank:
cant he just see anything anywhere is space or time anyway? why did he have to warg scout all his ravens?
Post by: puniraptor on August 15, 2017, 06:34:45 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 15, 2017, 06:37:16 PM
Post by: pissclams on August 15, 2017, 07:36:43 PM
the white walkers got double starked
Post by: puniraptor on August 15, 2017, 08:06:43 PM
He'd need to use extrapolation.
:runaway: the pe is 73 days away and I just missed that gimme :barf:
Post by: Pete on August 15, 2017, 08:30:40 PM
what if the ravens that bran warged into were actually aria faceless manning into the ravens so she could fly above the white walkers so she could poop on the zombies then take off her beak as she flies away and laughs at them just to piss them off. :lol:
the white walkers got double starked
Another classic double starking.
Post by: pissclams on August 15, 2017, 08:35:26 PM
yep - and we should have seen it coming from a mile away but didn'twhat if the ravens that bran warged into were actually aria faceless manning into the ravens so she could fly above the white walkers so she could poop on the zombies then take off her beak as she flies away and laughs at them just to piss them off. :lol:
the white walkers got double starked
Another classic double starking.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 15, 2017, 08:46:30 PM
Post by: mocat on August 16, 2017, 07:48:41 AM
Post by: mocat on August 16, 2017, 07:52:33 AM
jon
hound
beric
thoros
tormund
gendry (!) :gocho:
jorah
i would have been pretty excited about all those frayed storylines coming together. but then again i'm a fan of this series so i generally like it.
Post by: mocat on August 16, 2017, 07:54:44 AM
Post by: mocat on August 16, 2017, 07:55:53 AM
Post by: pissclams on August 16, 2017, 08:17:13 AM
if you told me when i finished reading book 5 that we'd have an expedition to kill a WW with these characters:
jon
hound
beric
thoros
tormund
gendry (!) :gocho:
jorah
i would have been pretty excited about all those frayed storylines coming together. but then again i'm a fan of this series so i generally like it.
it's such a stupid concept, what's to get excited about? and they're not going on an expedition to kill one
Post by: mocat on August 16, 2017, 08:23:32 AM
Post by: joda on August 16, 2017, 08:51:42 AM
if you told me when i finished reading book 5 that we'd have an expedition to kill a WW with these characters:
jon
hound
beric
thoros
tormund
gendry (!) :gocho:
jorah
i would have been pretty excited about all those frayed storylines coming together. but then again i'm a fan of this series so i generally like it.
It is a pretty crazy group. About the only way it could be more WTF-ly great is if somehow Bronn was there too
Post by: pissclams on August 16, 2017, 08:52:32 AM
you're posting in the character arc board genius
:excited:
if you told me when i finished reading book 5 that we'd have an expedition to kill a WW with these characters:
jon
hound
beric
thoros
tormund
gendry (!) :gocho:
jorah
i would have been pretty excited about all those frayed storylines coming together. but then again i'm a fan of this series so i generally like it.
It is a pretty crazy group. About the only way it could be more WTF-ly great is if somehow Bronn was there too
i'm rough ridin' excited bro!
Post by: michigancat on August 16, 2017, 11:41:36 AM
Post by: mocat on August 16, 2017, 12:55:52 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 16, 2017, 01:02:29 PM
Post by: mocat on August 16, 2017, 01:05:35 PM
Episode is up on torrent, I think I'll watch tonight :excited:
don't do it man
Post by: star seed 7 on August 16, 2017, 01:06:04 PM
Post by: mocat on August 16, 2017, 01:06:45 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 16, 2017, 01:07:24 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 16, 2017, 01:50:54 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 16, 2017, 01:55:11 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 16, 2017, 01:57:00 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 16, 2017, 02:00:34 PM
I hope there is a bunch of dead dicks in this episode so you have something else to complain about
Well you obviously already know so don't say anything!! (And if the dead dick contributes something to the story I'm Ok with it - I just don't like gratuitous nudity for the sake of the show runners having a giggle).
Post by: star seed 7 on August 16, 2017, 02:02:28 PM
Post by: mocat on August 16, 2017, 02:17:25 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 16, 2017, 02:34:07 PM
Everybody laughed at me, but now I've got Thrones Facts on my side. :micdrop:
If you read the comments you will see that the map misses the fact that the white walkers attacked Bran in that cave....What else have they missed that we don't even know about???
Post by: star seed 7 on August 16, 2017, 02:36:26 PM
Post by: catastrophe on August 16, 2017, 02:48:06 PM
Post by: stunted on August 16, 2017, 03:10:19 PM
ksuw is going to get his face mushed in the next few episodes
Post by: mocat on August 16, 2017, 03:18:05 PM
:nono:
Post by: The Big Train on August 16, 2017, 03:21:15 PM
Post by: michigancat on August 16, 2017, 03:21:57 PM
I think the last episode I saw was the red wedding one and reading this thread I feel pretty caught up now
you haven't missed much
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 16, 2017, 04:32:20 PM
Everybody laughed at me, but now I've got Thrones Facts on my side. :micdrop:
If you read the comments you will see that the map misses the fact that the white walkers attacked Bran in that cave....What else have they missed that we don't even know about???
It doesn't matter. As I said a few pages back:
Not to quibble (but I guess, yes, to quibble), you all are making excuses for a weak plot contrivance. If Jon has all this time to traipse all over Westeros because the Night King is just sitting around waiting, why does every shot we see of the Undead Army show them marching?
The Night King and Bran's storylines intersect at the Cave of the 3ER. Bran's storyline intersects with Sansa's storyline at Winterfell. Sansa's storyline intersects with Jon's at Winterfell. So this means the Night King is not only moving so slowly that he hasn't reached the Wall by the time Meera/Benjen towed Bran on a sled all the way to the Wall and then on down to Winterfell, but the Night King is still marching to the Wall by the time Jon spends months sailing from Dragonstone all the way up to Eastwatch.
The Night King is moving slower than Michael Meyers. The excuse boils down to "well I'm sure he's taking so long because he's doing tons of other stuff we don't know about, like recruiting." :lol: Besides, we all know the Night King doesn't bother recruiting. Like Snyder, he focuses on development.
Post by: mocat on August 16, 2017, 10:22:41 PM
Post by: sys on August 17, 2017, 03:01:34 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 17, 2017, 07:08:53 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 17, 2017, 08:52:46 AM
[youtube]https://youtu.be/AMSlT5pYU3w[/youtube]
Post by: mocat on August 17, 2017, 09:01:07 AM
Post by: catastrophe on August 17, 2017, 09:33:24 AM
i agree 100% on how unforgivably stupid and poorly written all the time traveling as plot catalyst is. but i find the galloping through 6 inches of water/falling off horse into 30 feet of water to be way worse. and where/when/how tf did jaime crawl out of the water to start this week's episode? insulting the viewers' intelligence is one thing, these assholes are gloveslapping our intelligence.
Especially given the gold hand. They should have at least shown him having to leave it at the bottom of the river.
You have to be a pretty damn good swimmer to get out with that plus a full suit of armor.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 17, 2017, 09:46:16 AM
Post by: michigancat on August 17, 2017, 10:00:02 AM
Post by: mocat on August 17, 2017, 10:10:05 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 17, 2017, 10:12:19 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 17, 2017, 10:12:36 AM
Post by: catastrophe on August 17, 2017, 10:30:11 AM
sometimes in movies a character is in the bathtub or even just like knocked out in a boxing match, and the camera shows that person sinking in deep water but we all know it's just imagery and the person is really in a bathtub or a boxing mat
Snatch. Great movie.
Post by: mocat on August 17, 2017, 10:31:14 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 17, 2017, 10:34:51 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 17, 2017, 10:58:46 AM
Should have shown Jaime and bronn stripping naked under the water and swimming with gratuitous dick shots
Sounds like those shots would add to the plot.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 17, 2017, 01:45:19 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 17, 2017, 08:52:26 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 18, 2017, 12:20:25 AM
Is that why he's always raising his arms up slowly? I thought it was a magic thing but maybe it's more just a "wtf you slow ass wights?" thing.
Yeah, and then Bran keeps showing up, asking "what's taking so long?" His blood pressure has to be super high.
Post by: ednksu on August 18, 2017, 12:28:11 AM
Post by: halfEmpty on August 18, 2017, 03:55:36 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 18, 2017, 06:36:36 AM
Post by: SdK on August 18, 2017, 07:05:53 AM
Post by: catastrophe on August 18, 2017, 07:59:07 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 18, 2017, 08:02:25 AM
I don't know if they are real or people just making stuff up because I stop reading them immediately.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 18, 2017, 10:44:33 AM
I dislike spoilers mostly because they are distributed by terrible people that I probably would not like IRL.
People who get gratification watching spoilers and ruining for others I assume are the same people who bully and have a lot of hidden sadness inside. The whole "if I can't be happy why should other people" type of attitude. :frown:
Post by: halfEmpty on August 18, 2017, 12:59:57 PM
I watched it already and the sound was fine
So how was the travel time in the latest episode? Are some heads going to collectively explode over the ridiculousness of travel times or does everything move fluidly from one scene to the next?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 18, 2017, 01:01:55 PM
I watched it already and the sound was fine
So how was the travel time in the latest episode? Are some heads going to collectively explode over the ridiculousness of travel times or does everything move fluidly from one scene to the next?
NO SPOILERS!!!!!!
Post by: star seed 7 on August 18, 2017, 01:03:47 PM
Post by: dmartin on August 18, 2017, 01:21:22 PM
Is that why he's always raising his arms up slowly? I thought it was a magic thing but maybe it's more just a "wtf you slow ass wights?" thing.
I imagine it's something like this:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_MaJDK3VNE[/youtube]
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 18, 2017, 01:44:36 PM
(https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/hbo-photo-10.jpg?w=2700)
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 18, 2017, 01:55:07 PM
I watched it already and the sound was fine
So how was the travel time in the latest episode? Are some heads going to collectively explode over the ridiculousness of travel times or does everything move fluidly from one scene to the next?
NO SPOILERS!!!!!!
No spoilers. But yes, my head might explode if Jon suddenly teleports to Mereen or Dorne this episode.
Post by: catastrophe on August 18, 2017, 06:27:21 PM
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Post by: mocat on August 18, 2017, 07:53:24 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 18, 2017, 08:38:07 PM
Joffrey looks awesome
TBH, I thought that was Sansa when I first looked at the pic.
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 19, 2017, 09:33:42 AM
I caved and watched epi 6. JFC.
Glad you felt compelled to share that with everyone here who is watching legally.
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Post by: The Big Train on August 19, 2017, 09:36:39 AM
I caved and watched epi 6. JFC.
Glad you felt compelled to share that with everyone here who is watching legally.
Glad you felt compelled to publicly announce you're a dork.
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Post by: mocat on August 20, 2017, 09:27:29 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 20, 2017, 09:31:11 PM
Post by: SdK on August 20, 2017, 09:31:38 PM
Post by: halfEmpty on August 20, 2017, 09:32:28 PM
Post by: halfEmpty on August 20, 2017, 09:39:20 PM
Arya, sansa and littlefinger dance will come to a head in the next episode. Kinda not how i expected it to play out, but still think littlefinger is a goner. Maybe sansa does it instead of arya.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 20, 2017, 09:40:18 PM
Post by: SdK on August 20, 2017, 09:40:39 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 20, 2017, 09:42:32 PM
Post by: SdK on August 20, 2017, 09:52:38 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 20, 2017, 09:55:38 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 20, 2017, 09:57:37 PM
Post by: Pete on August 20, 2017, 10:14:17 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 20, 2017, 10:23:44 PM
Ravens fly really fast.
Did Dany bring all three dragons? What happened to the third? I kinda expected Jon to ride it out.
Speaking of Dany, how did Jon know anyone has ever called her that? And there was probably an acceptable compromise between Dany and My Queen, right?
Oooh zombie ice dragon! What will the code word be for frost breath?
Update: So I guess there were one or two unnamed soldiers who went north with the A Team and died Star Trek redshirt-style.
Post by: nicname on August 20, 2017, 11:34:58 PM
Post by: ednksu on August 21, 2017, 01:58:23 AM
Is Dany wearing a wedding dress in this photo?there's a special place in hell for jerks like you.
(https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/hbo-photo-10.jpg?w=2700)
Post by: ednksu on August 21, 2017, 01:59:09 AM
Well, i guess we know what the knight king was waiting for. 1 guess on what will be used to bring down the wall.I'm still in on magic horn thing to bring the wall down.
Post by: mocat on August 21, 2017, 06:03:38 AM
Oooh zombie ice dragon! What will the code word be for frost breath?
The sound of a certain horn
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 06:47:38 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 07:57:20 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 07:58:11 AM
Is Dany wearing a wedding dress in this photo?there's a special place in hell for jerks like you.
How was I to know that she even owned a winter coat?
Post by: halfEmpty on August 21, 2017, 08:00:19 AM
I think the zombie polar bear was nice foreshadowing to eventual zombie dragon.
Questions for next week.
What will happen between Arya, Sansa, and Littlefinger? No way they build that up all season to leave it at a cliffhanger.
Does the wall come down this season or start of next season? I would guess this season. I think if we go a whole season of winter is here and the dead are still north of the wall is probably a bad look.
What happens in KL with so many main's? I'm sure a pact is made, but does anyone really think Cersei will keep said pact?
Does Sam ever make it to Winterfell and does he figure out the gold Gilly casually laid out to him?
What role does Bran play in anything?
Is Gendry heading to Winterfell to forge dragonglass weapons? Another reunion in the works?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 08:21:42 AM
Why did Sansa send Brienne away right when she realized that Brienne would prevent violence between the sisters? Does she want to hurt Arya?
Hopefully Gilly will somehow hear the name Lyanna and say "Hey that's the name I read in that book."
Can Bran warg into a zombie dragon?
Post by: mocat on August 21, 2017, 08:32:03 AM
There is zero chance they introduce the horn(s) this late in the show and if they do it will be stupid
yeah but they can show the night king riding the zombie dragon and blowing a horn and not have to explain it. did the show explain his magic ice spear thing?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 08:34:04 AM
There is zero chance they introduce the horn(s) this late in the show and if they do it will be stupid
yeah but they can show the night king riding the zombie dragon and blowing a horn and not have to explain it. did the show explain his magic ice spear thing?
I don't remember any explanation about the spear...also don't remember anything from the book, so please remind me. I thought maybe the dragon was just going to turn zombie right when it got speared.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 08:35:34 AM
Post by: SdK on August 21, 2017, 08:36:57 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 08:37:12 AM
Post by: mocat on August 21, 2017, 08:41:21 AM
There is zero chance they introduce the horn(s) this late in the show and if they do it will be stupid
yeah but they can show the night king riding the zombie dragon and blowing a horn and not have to explain it. did the show explain his magic ice spear thing?
I don't remember any explanation about the spear...also don't remember anything from the book, so please remind me. I thought maybe the dragon was just going to turn zombie right when it got speared.
nope there has been no info on the spear in the books or show
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 08:42:56 AM
Post by: mocat on August 21, 2017, 08:45:01 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 08:46:27 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 08:47:27 AM
The things I am remembering about the horn are so vague...I'm not sure if I am remembering GoT horn or Wheel of Time horn details.
Mance was looking for it but couldn't find it.
There is also the horn euron has he claims can control dragons.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 08:48:28 AM
how the hell would you know
Cause I watch the show
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 21, 2017, 08:48:48 AM
Sansa chose Brianne because Littlefinger planted the idea that she might choose Arya or at least jack things up in a conflict between the two. I'm still wondering why Arya hasn't killed LF yet - wasn't he on the list?
Post by: mocat on August 21, 2017, 08:56:33 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 21, 2017, 08:58:29 AM
littlefinger swooping in with the knights of the vale bought him a bunch of mileage with the sisters stark
Not with Arya. And not with the Vale, who hate LF. Literally nobody likes him or trusts him, but he's still chilling in Winterfell....
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 08:58:45 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 08:58:50 AM
I don't think Littlefinger was on Arya's list because she doesn't know he was behind the scenes stirring stuff up in King's Landing.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 09:02:54 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 21, 2017, 09:03:35 AM
If uncle Benjen can't go passed the Wall, can the wight they captured go passed it?
:D
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 09:10:26 AM
If uncle Benjen can't go passed the Wall, can the wight they captured go passed it?
:D
I never know which one to use when describing physically passing something. It didn't happen in the past so why would it be "past"?
Post by: The Big Train on August 21, 2017, 09:13:05 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 09:16:39 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 21, 2017, 09:18:09 AM
Does the wall even come down?
The episodes will move at a fast rate like Lord of the Rings movies do. It will have to. We have 8 total hours of show for next season.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 21, 2017, 09:22:43 AM
If uncle Benjen can't go passed the Wall, can the wight they captured go passed it?
:D
I never know which one to use when describing physically passing something. It didn't happen in the past so why would it be "past"?
"Passed" is a past tense verb.
Post by: catastrophe on August 21, 2017, 09:28:35 AM
I agree the most problematic part of last episode was how they got that thing past the wall. Best I can figure the rules don't apply if you fly over or around it.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 21, 2017, 09:30:54 AM
I wasn't super satisfied with the whole night king scene, but I think you could explain some of the apparent holes by the fact that (1) I think you're supposed to get the fact that the night king really just does not care that much about Jon Snow or any of the other mains, and (2) he could have been using them as bait the whole time. I'm not sure that makes total sense though.
I agree the most problematic part of last episode was how they got that thing past the wall. Best I can figure the rules don't apply if you fly over or around it.
Or if you consider that one of those things was past the wall in season 1.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 09:31:25 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 09:33:17 AM
I wasn't super satisfied with the whole night king scene, but I think you could explain some of the apparent holes by the fact that (1) I think you're supposed to get the fact that the night king really just does not care that much about Jon Snow or any of the other mains, and (2) he could have been using them as bait the whole time. I'm not sure that makes total sense though.
I agree the most problematic part of last episode was how they got that thing past the wall. Best I can figure the rules don't apply if you fly over or around it.
Or if you consider that one of those things was past the wall in season 1.
Like Jon even said this the previous episode
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 09:35:31 AM
I wasn't super satisfied with the whole night king scene, but I think you could explain some of the apparent holes by the fact that (1) I think you're supposed to get the fact that the night king really just does not care that much about Jon Snow or any of the other mains, and (2) he could have been using them as bait the whole time. I'm not sure that makes total sense though.
I agree the most problematic part of last episode was how they got that thing past the wall. Best I can figure the rules don't apply if you fly over or around it.
Or if you consider that one of those things was past the wall in season 1.
Like Jon even said this the previous episode
OK, so why are there different rules for Uncle Benjen?
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 21, 2017, 09:36:09 AM
Did the Night King know about the dragons before they got there? If so, how?
Didn't he fight them before? I assume this is the same Night King from thousands of years ago.
Post by: TownieCat on August 21, 2017, 09:36:50 AM
The things I am remembering about the horn are so vague...I'm not sure if I am remembering GoT horn or Wheel of Time horn details.
Mance was looking for it but couldn't find it.
There is also the horn euron has he claims can control dragons.
What about the horn Sam found at the Fist of the First Men back in season 2?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 09:38:14 AM
Did the Night King know about the dragons before they got there? If so, how?
Didn't he fight them before? I assume this is the same Night King from thousands of years ago.
OK, maybe but how did he know that after thousands or years being extinct that there were new ones who would be coming to rescue the A Team?
Post by: TownieCat on August 21, 2017, 09:40:01 AM
The things I am remembering about the horn are so vague...I'm not sure if I am remembering GoT horn or Wheel of Time horn details.
Mance was looking for it but couldn't find it.
There is also the horn euron has he claims can control dragons.
What about the horn Sam found at the Fist of the First Men back in season 2?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqSdHokQZ8g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqSdHokQZ8g)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 21, 2017, 09:43:00 AM
Did the Night King know about the dragons before they got there? If so, how?
Didn't he fight them before? I assume this is the same Night King from thousands of years ago.
OK, maybe but how did he know that after thousands or years being extinct that there were new ones who would be coming to rescue the A Team?
Maybe he didn't know they went extinct.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 21, 2017, 09:44:18 AM
I wasn't super satisfied with the whole night king scene, but I think you could explain some of the apparent holes by the fact that (1) I think you're supposed to get the fact that the night king really just does not care that much about Jon Snow or any of the other mains, and (2) he could have been using them as bait the whole time. I'm not sure that makes total sense though.
I agree the most problematic part of last episode was how they got that thing past the wall. Best I can figure the rules don't apply if you fly over or around it.
Or if you consider that one of those things was past the wall in season 1.
Like Jon even said this the previous episode
OK, so why are there different rules for Uncle Benjen?
Benjen isn't like the other wights.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 09:46:11 AM
The things I am remembering about the horn are so vague...I'm not sure if I am remembering GoT horn or Wheel of Time horn details.
Mance was looking for it but couldn't find it.
There is also the horn euron has he claims can control dragons.
What about the horn Sam found at the Fist of the First Men back in season 2?
Possibly, but the horn we are talking about is huge like those ricola (sp?) commercials
Post by: catastrophe on August 21, 2017, 09:59:49 AM
I wasn't super satisfied with the whole night king scene, but I think you could explain some of the apparent holes by the fact that (1) I think you're supposed to get the fact that the night king really just does not care that much about Jon Snow or any of the other mains, and (2) he could have been using them as bait the whole time. I'm not sure that makes total sense though.
I agree the most problematic part of last episode was how they got that thing past the wall. Best I can figure the rules don't apply if you fly over or around it.
Or if you consider that one of those things was past the wall in season 1.
Like Jon even said this the previous episode
Are you talking about the ones that were actually raised on the other side of the wall, or did they physically go through? I honestly don't remember.
Post by: catastrophe on August 21, 2017, 10:00:41 AM
Did the Night King know about the dragons before they got there? If so, how?
He was able to see Bran doing his time traveling thing. Maybe he has a similar ability?
Post by: mocat on August 21, 2017, 10:03:26 AM
Did the Night King know about the dragons before they got there? If so, how?
Didn't he fight them before? I assume this is the same Night King from thousands of years ago.
OK, maybe but how did he know that after thousands or years being extinct that there were new ones who would be coming to rescue the A Team?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6AAr7TWlWg
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 10:05:05 AM
I wasn't super satisfied with the whole night king scene, but I think you could explain some of the apparent holes by the fact that (1) I think you're supposed to get the fact that the night king really just does not care that much about Jon Snow or any of the other mains, and (2) he could have been using them as bait the whole time. I'm not sure that makes total sense though.
I agree the most problematic part of last episode was how they got that thing past the wall. Best I can figure the rules don't apply if you fly over or around it.
Or if you consider that one of those things was past the wall in season 1.
Like Jon even said this the previous episode
Are you talking about the ones that were actually raised on the other side of the wall, or did they physically go through? I honestly don't remember.
They were nights watch dudes that were killed north of the wall but brought back the castle black and then zombied
Post by: catastrophe on August 21, 2017, 10:23:03 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 10:25:18 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 10:59:02 AM
Did the Night King know about the dragons before they got there? If so, how?
Didn't he fight them before? I assume this is the same Night King from thousands of years ago.
OK, maybe but how did he know that after thousands or years being extinct that there were new ones who would be coming to rescue the A Team?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6AAr7TWlWg
OK, thanks. So the NK saw the red comet like 5 years ago and knew the dragons would be on their way any time now....
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 11:02:51 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 11:03:55 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 11:05:08 AM
Did the Night King know about the dragons before they got there? If so, how?
Didn't he fight them before? I assume this is the same Night King from thousands of years ago.
OK, maybe but how did he know that after thousands or years being extinct that there were new ones who would be coming to rescue the A Team?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6AAr7TWlWg
OK, thanks. So the NK saw the red comet like 5 years ago and knew the dragons would be on their way any time now....
Well they have been waiting for like 8 thousand years or something, I doubt another 5 is a big deal
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 21, 2017, 11:08:50 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 21, 2017, 11:12:59 AM
OK, but how long would it take Gendry to run back to Eastwatch, a raven to fly to Dragonstone, and then dragons to fly back up to the North arrow shaped mountain area?
Gendry probably ran for about 3-4 hours. Ravens fly about 50 mph.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 11:14:08 AM
Post by: mocat on August 21, 2017, 11:17:33 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 21, 2017, 11:18:47 AM
someone remind me where is rickon and that salty minx with the head perpetually tilted over to one side Osha, tia
dead
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 11:20:37 AM
someone remind me where is rickon and that salty minx with the head perpetually tilted over to one side Osha, tia
Osha tried to f ramsay and got kilt and rickon don't zig rickon don't zag
Post by: mocat on August 21, 2017, 11:22:44 AM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 11:27:52 AM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on August 21, 2017, 11:32:42 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on August 21, 2017, 11:33:29 AM
So Dany said that Jon is "too little" for her to marry...like he isn't powerful enough to be a good alliance. He's a King. Who does she think she is going to marry that's better than that?
He's a pretty illegitimate bastard king of a bunch of hicks up north yelling about ice zombies. Also, he seems to have little or no interest in her goal of the seven kingdoms.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 11:34:43 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 11:35:47 AM
does the show start to get confusing or something? I'm about an epi into the 5th season and this isn't like lost or something it all seems pretty straight forward
No, it's not confusing at all
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 11:36:44 AM
So Dany said that Jon is "too little" for her to marry...like he isn't powerful enough to be a good alliance. He's a King. Who does she think she is going to marry that's better than that?
He's a pretty illegitimate bastard king of a bunch of hicks up north yelling about ice zombies. Also, he seems to have little or no interest in her goal of the seven kingdoms.
OK, but there are no other Kings (or Queens) for her to marry. Who would she marry to make a better alliance?
Post by: TownieCat on August 21, 2017, 11:37:58 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 11:38:32 AM
Also he's short and tormund said he has a small weiner
I think Tormund was joking but also Tomund has a huge weiner (Giant's Bane) so he probably thinks even an above average one is small.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 11:39:52 AM
Also he's short and tormund said he has a small weiner
I think Tormund was joking but also Tomund has a huge weiner (Giant's Bane) so he probably thinks even an above average one is small.
Nope, the (show) writers said Jon really has a small weiner because he doesn't get to be perfect
Post by: TownieCat on August 21, 2017, 11:40:07 AM
It was a short joke. You guys are overthinking it.
^^HSJIQ
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 11:40:20 AM
Post by: halfEmpty on August 21, 2017, 11:40:56 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 11:41:54 AM
Yeah, short joke. Kit in real life is like 5'6"
Emilia Clarke is 5'2" so that seems perfect.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 11:42:34 AM
Do you think she'll reconsider marrying him when she finds out he is the rightful heir?
What if she doesn't? What if Jon never finds out?
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 11:43:32 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on August 21, 2017, 11:44:38 AM
So Dany said that Jon is "too little" for her to marry...like he isn't powerful enough to be a good alliance. He's a King. Who does she think she is going to marry that's better than that?
He's a pretty illegitimate bastard king of a bunch of hicks up north yelling about ice zombies. Also, he seems to have little or no interest in her goal of the seven kingdoms.
OK, but there are no other Kings (or Queens) for her to marry. Who would she marry to make a better alliance?
In all honesty, I just took it a size thing too.
But there are prob rich families or someone that will net you a couple of armies out there somewhere. Maybe she could marry whoever is in charge of that bank (Mycroft?).
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 11:46:38 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 11:49:40 AM
Post by: Yard Dog on August 21, 2017, 11:52:16 AM
Did the Night King know about the dragons before they got there? If so, how?
He was able to see Bran doing his time traveling thing. Maybe he has a similar ability?
This is my theory, that he has some ability to see the world as it is. But like Bran, cannot effect it directly. It is also possible he only gained that ability once he touched Bran. With this way of thinking, the Night King was simply laying a trap with the hopes of capturing a dragon.
On the Arya / Sansa front I think it is all a ploy to convince Littlefinger that he is in control, than *BAM* double cross and Sansa and Arya kill LF and take his face. This will allow Arya to get close to people she needs to kill next season. I can't help but be extremely annoyed by their back and forth if this isn't all them outwitting LF.
Post by: Yard Dog on August 21, 2017, 11:57:02 AM
Jason Mamoa (khal Drogo) - 6'4"
Lain Glen (Jorah Mormont) - 6'1"
Michiel Huisman (Daario Naharis) - 6'0"
Kit Harington (Jon Snow) - 5'8"
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 21, 2017, 11:58:58 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 12:00:32 PM
She was talking about his dick, guys. She's a freak. She was getting tossed around by that one monster in the beginning. It's all she knows.
She hasn't seen his dick. But she was staring intently at his hands when he was in bed so maybe she was reconsidering her position...
Post by: Yard Dog on August 21, 2017, 12:05:03 PM
She was talking about his dick, guys. She's a freak. She was getting tossed around by that one monster in the beginning. It's all she knows.
One of the best tweets I saw last night in line with your comment :lol::
https://twitter.com/cassymstone/status/899455829476356101?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzfeed.com%2Fcrystalro%2Fhere-are-all-the-funniest-tweets-from-this-weeks-game-of
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Post by: catastrophe on August 21, 2017, 12:42:13 PM
i like the swords that catch on fire, p cool looking when they turn them on
I wish they explained that a little better. It is kinda weird when you got everyone freezing right there. It's like, "boy, now would be a great time for a fire." It sure seems like he can turn it on and off at will.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 12:43:02 PM
the night king waiting for the dragon mushes all this "what were the ww waiting for" nonsense
Stud take :thumbs:
Post by: stunted on August 21, 2017, 12:46:15 PM
:lol:
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2017, 02:30:54 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on August 21, 2017, 09:37:33 PM
Did the Night King know about the dragons before they got there? If so, how?
He was able to see Bran doing his time traveling thing. Maybe he has a similar ability?
This is my theory, that he has some ability to see the world as it is. But like Bran, cannot effect it directly. It is also possible he only gained that ability once he touched Bran. With this way of thinking, the Night King was simply laying a trap with the hopes of capturing a dragon.
On the Arya / Sansa front I think it is all a ploy to convince Littlefinger that he is in control, than *BAM* double cross and Sansa and Arya kill LF and take his face. This will allow Arya to get close to people she needs to kill next season. I can't help but be extremely annoyed by their back and forth if this isn't all them outwitting LF.
Bran IS the night king
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Post by: SdK on August 21, 2017, 09:40:33 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 21, 2017, 09:42:08 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 21, 2017, 10:02:51 PM
So the new theory for why the Night King has been hanging north of the Wall all this time is that he was setting a trap... for dragons he somehow knew about, based on a dumbass quest to catch a wight he somehow knew would happen. Mmmkay. If the Night King is really clairvoyant that's gonna pose some obvious plot problems....
Oh and Tyrian is advising Dany to walk into King's Landing instead of finding neutral ground?! That's very stupid. I'm wondering if maybe he really does intend to betray her. But I don't see how he would do that if it would help Cersei.
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:zzz:
Post by: michigancat on August 21, 2017, 11:32:10 PM
that one brotherhood guy dying has hair that reminds me of a toddler for some reason
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i like the swords that catch on fire, p cool looking when they turn them on
this was a highlight I failed to mention, it was pretty awesome seeing the sword fire turn on
Post by: halfEmpty on August 22, 2017, 05:54:32 AM
If these little spats between Sansa and Arya were all in public, I could buy that it's a ploy. But not in a private bedroom where nobody else would witness. They really don't trust each other. But it'll probably be worked by next episode, hopefully with LF dead, so don't really care too much.
So the new theory for why the Night King has been hanging north of the Wall all this time is that he was setting a trap... for dragons he somehow knew about, based on a dumbass quest to catch a wight he somehow knew would happen. Mmmkay. If the Night King is really clairvoyant that's gonna pose some obvious plot problems....
Oh and Tyrian is advising Dany to walk into King's Landing instead of finding neutral ground?! That's very stupid. I'm wondering if maybe he really does intend to betray her. But I don't see how he would do that if it would help Cersei.
I wouldn't say he was sitting around laying a trap, although I did read a theory stating that. For me it's more to the point that they cant cross the wall without breaking the magic of it. Is anyone aware of the magic except Bran, Meera, maybe Sam? I can't remember if others know, or if it is some kind of myth that most don't believe.
My question is how far in the future was the raising of viserion? I doubt they were dragging massive chains with them all this time. Which means they had to go get them bring them back, hook up viserion at the bottom of a lake, and drag him out.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 06:38:35 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 07:59:10 AM
arya would be too short to just need sansa's face fyi
LOL I said the same thing.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 08:01:36 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 08:03:43 AM
Post by: puniraptor on August 22, 2017, 08:32:15 AM
Does the Wall magic extend up above the Wall? Or can the dragon just fly over the Wall?
Does the wall even have magic or is it just a myth?
I don't think the wall is magic. It's just a big wall.
Post by: SdK on August 22, 2017, 08:40:20 AM
Post by: Tobias on August 22, 2017, 08:41:17 AM
Post by: halfEmpty on August 22, 2017, 08:57:41 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 09:00:22 AM
my favorite part of the season so far is the cave drawings
These were not magic
Post by: catastrophe on August 22, 2017, 09:20:28 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 09:27:40 AM
my favorite part of the season so far is the cave drawings
These were not magic
How do you know?
Post by: TownieCat on August 22, 2017, 09:43:08 AM
If these little spats between Sansa and Arya were all in public, I could buy that it's a ploy. But not in a private bedroom where nobody else would witness. They really don't trust each other. But it'll probably be worked by next episode, hopefully with LF dead, so don't really care too much.
Sansa found the faces a little too easily. My guess is that Arya will kill LF, and she wants Sansa to know it was her who did it. But since Sansa is now in possession of the dagger (presumably the murder weapon) she won't be able to prove that Arya did it.
Post by: CHONGS on August 22, 2017, 09:51:31 AM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 09:59:12 AM
What if Arya warged into Sansa already and we just don't know it.
She can't be Arya and Sansa at the same time. That's just dumb.
Post by: CHONGS on August 22, 2017, 10:10:10 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 22, 2017, 10:12:29 AM
I also agree with Rusty that Arya's deadpan archery story was super lame, as was the failure to bring a horse.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 10:13:15 AM
She Freaky Fridayed it.
So Sansa was in Arya's body? And Arya was in Sansa's body. Well that explains why Sansa (aka Arya) sent Brienne away.
Post by: CHONGS on August 22, 2017, 10:21:37 AM
Post by: michigancat on August 22, 2017, 10:33:57 AM
it's magic you idiots
if magic is involved IMO it would be easier to fake a face w/ magic than fake height :dunno:
Post by: Yard Dog on August 22, 2017, 10:35:53 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 10:39:34 AM
Also, why didn't they all have dragonglass or Valerian steel swords? (I assume they didn't because the wights weren't all automatically dying quickly when they got hit.)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 10:42:12 AM
Post by: michigancat on August 22, 2017, 10:43:48 AM
I just don't even understand what their plan was for getting one single wight and not having to fight the whole army. Like, what were they even thinking was going to happen?
Also, why didn't they all have dragonglass or Valerian steel swords? (I assume they didn't because the wights weren't all automatically dying quickly when they got hit.)
Pretty sure they had daggers - that's what the thrilling mining storyline was setting up
When it comes to bringing a horse, I guess they assumed that keeping it alive due to the temperature would be tough? You would also have to account for bringing along food for the horse etc.
yeah how would we never know if horses could survive past the wall based on the last episode
Post by: Yard Dog on August 22, 2017, 10:44:16 AM
I'm also thinking that the dragon glass / valerian steel benefits are against the white walkers, not necessarily the wights. . .but I could be wrong.
Post by: Yard Dog on August 22, 2017, 10:46:39 AM
yeah how would we never know if horses could survive past the wall based on the last episode
Part of me assumed Benjen's horse must be special, but perhaps not.
Has the show ever shown wildlings on horses? It could be pretty believable that they walked to Eastwatch and so the castle itself does not have a stable (not to mention how much feed they would need to hold the castle for an extended period of time). So they would have had to bring horses on the ship with them from Dragonstone, but I guess they would have had to borrow them from the Dothraki?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 10:47:26 AM
I just don't even understand what their plan was for getting one single wight and not having to fight the whole army. Like, what were they even thinking was going to happen?
Also, why didn't they all have dragonglass or Valerian steel swords? (I assume they didn't because the wights weren't all automatically dying quickly when they got hit.)
Pretty sure they had daggers - that's what the thrilling mining storyline was setting upWhen it comes to bringing a horse, I guess they assumed that keeping it alive due to the temperature would be tough? You would also have to account for bringing along food for the horse etc.
yeah how would we never know if horses could survive past the wall based on the last episode
Benjen's horse is (half?) undead.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 10:47:55 AM
Post by: Tobias on August 22, 2017, 10:48:56 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 10:49:59 AM
I just don't even understand what their plan was for getting one single wight and not having to fight the whole army. Like, what were they even thinking was going to happen?
Also, why didn't they all have dragonglass or Valerian steel swords? (I assume they didn't because the wights weren't all automatically dying quickly when they got hit.)
Pretty sure they had daggers - that's what the thrilling mining storyline was setting up
Well yeah, the mining is why I thought they should all have dragonglass. It just didn't seem like the wights were going down fast enough if they all had it.
Maybe it doesn't work on wights...Did Sam kill a White Walker or a wight with dragonglass?
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 10:50:25 AM
Post by: Yard Dog on August 22, 2017, 10:51:08 AM
I just don't even understand what their plan was for getting one single wight and not having to fight the whole army. Like, what were they even thinking was going to happen?
Also, why didn't they all have dragonglass or Valerian steel swords? (I assume they didn't because the wights weren't all automatically dying quickly when they got hit.)
Pretty sure they had daggers - that's what the thrilling mining storyline was setting up
Well yeah, the mining is why I thought they should all have dragonglass. It just didn't seem like the wights were going down fast enough if they all had it.
Maybe it doesn't work on wights...Did Sam kill a White Walker or a wight with dragonglass?
A white walker.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 10:51:21 AM
Also the plan worked perfectly until they learned the zombies can scream
Well they didn't even know that all the first group (except for one, very conveniently) would die when they killed a White Walker.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 10:51:39 AM
kRusty is good at this thread
Don't encourage the too cool for school'r
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 10:52:20 AM
Also the plan worked perfectly until they learned the zombies can scream
Well they didn't even know that all the first group (except for one, very conveniently) would die when they killed a White Walker.
So? P sure they would have won anyway
Post by: mocat on August 22, 2017, 10:57:28 AM
Post by: michigancat on August 22, 2017, 10:58:42 AM
Post by: AppleJack on August 22, 2017, 10:59:04 AM
Post by: mocat on August 22, 2017, 11:00:09 AM
guys, is the Hound gonna run into zombie Mountain next epi? :surprised:
there's no way the Hound could make it all the way down to king's landing in time for next ep AJ, get real :lol:
Post by: michigancat on August 22, 2017, 11:00:21 AM
Post by: michigancat on August 22, 2017, 11:00:52 AM
guys, is the Hound gonna run into zombie Mountain next epi? :surprised:
there's no way the Hound could make it all the way down to king's landing in time for next ep AJ, get real :lol:
this is definitely gonna be an end-of-season cliffhanger due to the the travel complexities involved
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 11:02:20 AM
also if that weird red priest knew to kill the zombie night king why didn't that dumbfuck know how to not kill the chief zombie during their silly little ambush? (you should rewatch it, it's like the least surprising silly ambush ever)
I have no idea what you're asking
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 11:04:18 AM
wait benjen is a third (fourth?) kind of undead? wtf? :lol:
Yes.
Here are the types of (un)dead...
1. Night King
2. White Walkers
3. Wights
4. Benjen which had his wight transition halted by the Children of the Forest shoving dragonglass into him mid-transition. (unknown if there are any other of Benjen's type around)
Post by: michigancat on August 22, 2017, 11:06:07 AM
also if that weird red priest knew to kill the zombie night king why didn't that dumbfuck know how to not kill the chief zombie during their silly little ambush? (you should rewatch it, it's like the least surprising silly ambush ever)
I have no idea what you're asking
1) they get into the ambush with the little group of zombies
2) they're talking about how they killed the chief zombie and were like "oh if you kill the chief zombie you kill all the zombies it created"
3) Beric (or Thoros) the einstein says, "why don't you just kill that one, he's the zombie king"?
4) Like thanks a lot for bringing that to our attention now you weird religious dumbfuck
Also has it been discussed how hilarious the zombie king javelin throw was? :lol:
Post by: mocat on August 22, 2017, 11:06:54 AM
Post by: michigancat on August 22, 2017, 11:07:30 AM
wait benjen is a third (fourth?) kind of undead? wtf? :lol:
Yes.
Here are the types of (un)dead...
1. Night King
2. White Walkers
3. Wights
4. Benjen which had his wight transition halted by the Children of the Forest shoving dragonglass into him mid-transition. (unknown if there are any other of Benjen's type around)
what about animals? Why don't the zombie horses turn into flesh eating lunatic zombies but the bears and humans do? Was Benjen's horse a halfdead zombie or a fulldead zombie? :lol:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 22, 2017, 11:07:49 AM
5. Jon Snow typeswait benjen is a third (fourth?) kind of undead? wtf? :lol:
Yes.
Here are the types of (un)dead...
1. Night King
2. White Walkers
3. Wights
4. Benjen which had his wight transition halted by the Children of the Forest shoving dragonglass into him mid-transition. (unknown if there are any other of Benjen's type around)
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 11:09:09 AM
Post by: michigancat on August 22, 2017, 11:10:20 AM
5. Jon Snow typeswait benjen is a third (fourth?) kind of undead? wtf? :lol:
Yes.
Here are the types of (un)dead...
1. Night King
2. White Walkers
3. Wights
4. Benjen which had his wight transition halted by the Children of the Forest shoving dragonglass into him mid-transition. (unknown if there are any other of Benjen's type around)
jon snow was resurrected and not a zombie, BIG difference :nono:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 22, 2017, 11:10:43 AM
5. Jon Snow typeswait benjen is a third (fourth?) kind of undead? wtf? :lol:
Yes.
Here are the types of (un)dead...
1. Night King
2. White Walkers
3. Wights
4. Benjen which had his wight transition halted by the Children of the Forest shoving dragonglass into him mid-transition. (unknown if there are any other of Benjen's type around)
jon snow was resurrected and not a zombie, BIG difference :nono:
Still undead. :nono: :nono:
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 11:10:55 AM
also if that weird red priest knew to kill the zombie night king why didn't that dumbfuck know how to not kill the chief zombie during their silly little ambush? (you should rewatch it, it's like the least surprising silly ambush ever)
I have no idea what you're asking
1) they get into the ambush with the little group of zombies
2) they're talking about how they killed the chief zombie and were like "oh if you kill the chief zombie you kill all the zombies it created"
3) Beric (or Thoros) the einstein says, "why don't you just kill that one, he's the zombie king"?
4) Like thanks a lot for bringing that to our attention now you weird religious dumbfuck
Also has it been discussed how hilarious the zombie king javelin throw was? :lol:
Sounds like you answered your question from the first post
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 11:12:50 AM
also if that weird red priest knew to kill the zombie night king why didn't that dumbfuck know how to not kill the chief zombie during their silly little ambush? (you should rewatch it, it's like the least surprising silly ambush ever)
I have no idea what you're asking
1) they get into the ambush with the little group of zombies
2) they're talking about how they killed the chief zombie and were like "oh if you kill the chief zombie you kill all the zombies it created"
3) Beric (or Thoros) the einstein says, "why don't you just kill that one, he's the zombie king"?
4) Like thanks a lot for bringing that to our attention now you weird religious dumbfuck
Also has it been discussed how hilarious the zombie king javelin throw was? :lol:
He just figured that out right at that moment. He hadn't known it before. Duh.
mrs gooch, do undead animals fall under category #2? they have blue eyes and seem impervious to fire.
I assumed they were animal wights. They decompose like wights.
Post by: mocat on August 22, 2017, 11:14:16 AM
mrs gooch, do undead animals fall under category #2? they have blue eyes and seem impervious to fire.
I assumed they were animal wights. They decompose like wights.
yeah but wights don't have blue eyes and fire kills them
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 11:15:05 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 11:15:20 AM
mrs gooch, do undead animals fall under category #2? they have blue eyes and seem impervious to fire.
I assumed they were animal wights. They decompose like wights.
yeah but wights don't have blue eyes and fire kills them
But white walkers are made from babies, right?
Post by: joda on August 22, 2017, 11:16:02 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 11:17:24 AM
Why are you guys worried about bringing a horse with them when Jon has a rough ridin' direwolf he left chilling in the castle while he wandered into the most dangerous situation possible? #freeghost
Well Ghost was left at Winterfell. Jon didn't have time (LOL) to stop by Winterfell to pick up Ghost on his way to Eastwatch.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 11:17:46 AM
Post by: joda on August 22, 2017, 11:20:06 AM
Why are you guys worried about bringing a horse with them when Jon has a rough ridin' direwolf he left chilling in the castle while he wandered into the most dangerous situation possible? #freeghost
Well Ghost was left at Winterfell. Jon didn't have time (LOL) to stop by Winterfell to pick up Ghost on his way to Eastwatch.
Like I've said, warg ability. Ghost would've known what was going down and been sitting and the gate of Eastwatch when the A-Team rolled up
Post by: joda on August 22, 2017, 11:22:43 AM
A wolf riding a dragon? Get real man, ghost would be toast if he had come
Ghost would've torn crap up. We've forgotten how bad ass the dire wolves are because all we've seen in forever is the Nymeria scene
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 11:24:25 AM
Why are you guys worried about bringing a horse with them when Jon has a rough ridin' direwolf he left chilling in the castle while he wandered into the most dangerous situation possible? #freeghost
Well Ghost was left at Winterfell. Jon didn't have time (LOL) to stop by Winterfell to pick up Ghost on his way to Eastwatch.
Like I've said, warg ability. Ghost would've known what was going down and been sitting and the gate of Eastwatch when the A-Team rolled up
Bran is the only warg and he is just sitting next to the Weirwood tree being unhelpful.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 22, 2017, 11:25:31 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 11:26:15 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 11:26:54 AM
They've really dropped the ball not doing some more bran flashbacks, totally wasted so far this season
This whole show is just a Bran flashback (or forward) anyways.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 22, 2017, 11:27:14 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 11:28:51 AM
This season really would have been a lot better with 10 episodes. Everything is moving too fast.
Yeah I agree, they just weren't given the budget.
Post by: joda on August 22, 2017, 11:40:25 AM
Why are you guys worried about bringing a horse with them when Jon has a rough ridin' direwolf he left chilling in the castle while he wandered into the most dangerous situation possible? #freeghost
Well Ghost was left at Winterfell. Jon didn't have time (LOL) to stop by Winterfell to pick up Ghost on his way to Eastwatch.
Like I've said, warg ability. Ghost would've known what was going down and been sitting and the gate of Eastwatch when the A-Team rolled up
Bran is the only warg and he is just sitting next to the Weirwood tree being unhelpful.
Maybe the only true warg, but it's pretty much established that there's much more of a bond between Jon and Ghost than just human and pet
Post by: pissclams on August 22, 2017, 12:35:38 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 12:39:53 PM
if i was arya i would be faceless man of jon snow and then bone dany before real jon got to bone her
But she would have to kill Jon to do that...
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 22, 2017, 12:49:59 PM
if i was arya i would be faceless man of jon snow and then bone dany before real jon got to bone her
But she would have to kill Jon to do that...
She could always just stitch his face back on and then go get Melisandra.
Post by: michigancat on August 22, 2017, 12:50:31 PM
if i was arya i would be faceless man of jon snow and then bone dany before real jon got to bone her
But she would have to kill Jon to do that...
she could use magic
Post by: Yard Dog on August 22, 2017, 12:53:13 PM
if i was arya i would be faceless man of jon snow and then bone dany before real jon got to bone her
But she would have to kill Jon to do that...
she could use magic
If you have to kill someone to see their face. . .how did arya see her own face on the corpse last season? Magic of some sort I'd presume.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 01:18:20 PM
She was having a vision as part of her impending blindness.
Post by: CHONGS on August 22, 2017, 01:50:12 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 01:53:37 PM
The night king == lord of light. Think about it.
Why would the NK/LoL have resurrected people who were going to fight against him?
Post by: CHONGS on August 22, 2017, 01:54:01 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 01:56:23 PM
Who brought him a dragon?
:sdeek:
Post by: CHONGS on August 22, 2017, 01:58:04 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 01:58:47 PM
Who gave him a huge army of dead wildlings?
He would have gotten even more if Jon hadn't let a bunch of them go south of the Wall.
Post by: CHONGS on August 22, 2017, 02:01:20 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 22, 2017, 02:33:08 PM
They've really dropped the ball not doing some more bran flashbacks, totally wasted so far this season
Agreed. They're probably waiting for the season finale to do the branflashback that reveals Meera as Jon's twin.
I also appreciate how several other posters are now mocking the absurd miles being racked up by certain characters. :thumbs:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 03:47:00 PM
Post by: mocat on August 22, 2017, 03:51:49 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 03:55:34 PM
The finale title is “The Dragon and the Wolf”. Many people assume that is referring to Dany & Jon...but what if the entire title is only referring to one person.
Maybe ghost and drogan have sex
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 03:58:30 PM
The finale title is “The Dragon and the Wolf”. Many people assume that is referring to Dany & Jon...but what if the entire title is only referring to one person.
Maybe ghost and drogan have sex
Not likely. I don't think they are gay.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 04:00:59 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 22, 2017, 04:01:13 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 04:03:20 PM
Maybe it's Summer and Viserion. No way the Night King just decided not to turn a dead direwolf, right?
Wait, oh yeah Summer was in the North when he died....
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 04:06:58 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 04:09:02 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 04:09:36 PM
He should just warg into the night king and kill himself
But how can he be killed? Dragonglass created him.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 04:10:26 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 04:10:44 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 04:11:21 PM
He should just warg into the night king and kill himself
But how can he be killed? Dragonglass created him.
Jump into the ocean with a rock coat
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 22, 2017, 04:12:12 PM
Surely Bran would have warged into Summer by now if he was hanging out with the Night King.
I don't think Bran can warg into dead stuff.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 04:12:34 PM
He should just warg into the night king and kill himself
But how can he be killed? Dragonglass created him.
Jump into the ocean with a rock coat
He could just freeze the water under him until he rises above the surface. I assume undead things don't need to breathe.
Post by: catastrophe on August 22, 2017, 04:12:40 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 04:14:10 PM
He should just time travel into the very beginning and be like, "hey, don't make those things."
He's not very reliable at doing things when he time travels. Last time he created Hodor.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 04:14:57 PM
He should just warg into the night king and kill himself
But how can he be killed? Dragonglass created him.
Jump into the ocean with a rock coat
He could just freeze the water under him until he rises above the surface. I assume undead things don't need to breathe.
Bury himself underground and put a big rock over the grave
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 04:15:41 PM
He should just warg into the night king and kill himself
But how can he be killed? Dragonglass created him.
Jump into the ocean with a rock coat
He could just freeze the water under him until he rises above the surface. I assume undead things don't need to breathe.
Bury himself underground and put a big rock over the grave
The wights could just dig him up.
Post by: Tobias on August 22, 2017, 04:16:16 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 04:17:28 PM
Post by: Tobias on August 22, 2017, 04:18:30 PM
Post by: The Big Train on August 22, 2017, 04:22:41 PM
yup
Post by: mocat on August 22, 2017, 04:28:14 PM
Post by: Tobias on August 22, 2017, 04:34:55 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 04:38:17 PM
Post by: Tobias on August 22, 2017, 04:39:35 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 22, 2017, 04:56:57 PM
Post by: mocat on August 22, 2017, 05:00:47 PM
Hopefully the Night King talks next season. I bet he changed Summer's name to Winter.
Maybe it's Summer and Viserion.
next week on GoT: Winter is Coming!
Post by: mocat on August 22, 2017, 05:00:59 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 05:02:23 PM
Post by: Spracne on August 22, 2017, 05:49:16 PM
Just rewatched s1e1. Winterfell receives a raven saying the King is coming to Winterfell, then POOF, they're arriving. What in the actual eff, GoT...They've really dropped the ball not doing some more bran flashbacks, totally wasted so far this season
Agreed. They're probably waiting for the season finale to do the branflashback that reveals Meera as Jon's twin.
I also appreciate how several other posters are now mocking the absurd miles being racked up by certain characters. :thumbs:
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Post by: michigancat on August 22, 2017, 05:50:49 PM
Post by: ednksu on August 22, 2017, 06:00:05 PM
You don't die if the thing you warg into dies. You will be in bad shape. In the case of wargging into an animal and die you'll be fine, see Orell.
And the Horn of Joramun (or Horn of Winter) has been introduced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqSdHokQZ8g
Which I don't remember what happened to it after being found. Maybe Sam still has it, don't know. I could see him mistaking what it's for and blowing it thinking it might help.
Hopefully people don't ruin the season finale with screen caps and other spoilers.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 06:03:19 PM
Post by: michigancat on August 22, 2017, 06:04:22 PM
Post by: ednksu on August 22, 2017, 06:06:20 PM
You're an idiotDon't post crap that is obviously wrong.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 06:09:52 PM
You're an idiotDon't post crap that is obviously wrong.
Take your own advice moron
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 06:10:29 PM
lol why were they just digging in the snow
Digging places to poop
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 22, 2017, 06:12:19 PM
Just rewatched s1e1. Winterfell receives a raven saying the King is coming to Winterfell, then POOF, they're arriving. What in the actual eff, GoT...They've really dropped the ball not doing some more bran flashbacks, totally wasted so far this season
Agreed. They're probably waiting for the season finale to do the branflashback that reveals Meera as Jon's twin.
I also appreciate how several other posters are now mocking the absurd miles being racked up by certain characters. :thumbs:
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Hey what an original joke! Read back about 10 pages dumbass. I've been vindicated by well known GOT nerds.
Post by: The Big Train on August 22, 2017, 06:14:31 PM
Post by: Spracne on August 22, 2017, 06:20:37 PM
I don't have time to read every page of this blog, just like I don't have time to watch ravens flap their wings or men march 500 miles. I, for one, applaud convenient time lapses. If only you could figure out how to make a good point without boring the audience to death...Just rewatched s1e1. Winterfell receives a raven saying the King is coming to Winterfell, then POOF, they're arriving. What in the actual eff, GoT...They've really dropped the ball not doing some more bran flashbacks, totally wasted so far this season
Agreed. They're probably waiting for the season finale to do the branflashback that reveals Meera as Jon's twin.
I also appreciate how several other posters are now mocking the absurd miles being racked up by certain characters. :thumbs:
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Hey what an original joke! Read back about 10 pages dumbass. I've been vindicated by well known GOT nerds.
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Post by: ednksu on August 22, 2017, 06:21:22 PM
You're an idiotDon't post crap that is obviously wrong.
Take your own advice moron
Way to add to the conversation, name calling is always the mark of intelligence. /cheeto
Post by: ednksu on August 22, 2017, 06:25:10 PM
Agreed. They're probably waiting for the season finale to do the branflashback that reveals Meera as Jon's twin.Can you walk me through your thoughts here?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 06:33:20 PM
does the knight king have a head shaped like a frozen crown or is that just frozen hair?
Yes head shaped like a weird zombie frozen crown.
Post by: ednksu on August 22, 2017, 06:36:31 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.todayonline.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fstyles%2Fnew_app_article_detail%2Fpublic%2Fphotos%2F43_images%2F25718816.jpg&hash=2f44c533da02cbc172f66f80c42165f7c133ed21)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 06:37:34 PM
Post by: mocat on August 22, 2017, 06:54:16 PM
Trying to bring the frosted tips back.Staple of being a Nortarg :surprised:
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 23, 2017, 07:53:45 AM
:cry:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 23, 2017, 08:23:42 AM
Post by: SdK on August 23, 2017, 08:26:40 AM
Post by: TownieCat on August 23, 2017, 08:34:00 AM
That second trailer. Lone wolf dies, pack survives. No Jon!
Has Sansa made this remark yet? Don't recall it if she has.
Post by: halfEmpty on August 23, 2017, 08:42:43 AM
Post by: Yard Dog on August 23, 2017, 09:17:01 AM
That second trailer. Lone wolf dies, pack survives. No Jon!
Has Sansa made this remark yet? Don't recall it if she has.
I'm calling that is what she is saying as Littlefinger dies / is about to die. :excited:
Post by: TownieCat on August 23, 2017, 09:39:56 AM
That second trailer. Lone wolf dies, pack survives. No Jon!I highly doubt that is what the quote refers to, but you never know!
My guess is it something that Sansa says to Petyr right before he dies.
We are on the same page, Yard Dog. :gocho:
Post by: Institutional Control on August 23, 2017, 10:11:58 AM
Post by: Tobias on August 23, 2017, 10:13:28 AM
I feel like I'm able to enjoy the show more than most of you because I don't try to over-analyze everything.
:cheers: <--- magic beer high five over the internet in real time
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 23, 2017, 10:19:06 AM
I feel like I'm able to enjoy the show more than most of you because I don't try to over-analyze everything.
I feel like I am enjoying it more by analyzing it because then I have to get into the details and remember stuff that happened a long time ago.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 23, 2017, 10:30:32 AM
I feel like I'm able to enjoy the show more than most of you because I don't try to over-analyze everything.
I feel like I am enjoying it more by analyzing it because then I have to get into the details and remember stuff that happened a long time ago.
Yeah, I just don't let the imperfections ruin it for me
Post by: michigancat on August 23, 2017, 10:34:42 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 23, 2017, 10:43:56 AM
:Rusty:
Post by: Yard Dog on August 23, 2017, 10:45:07 AM
That second trailer. Lone wolf dies, pack survives. No Jon!I highly doubt that is what the quote refers to, but you never know!
My guess is it something that Sansa says to Petyr right before he dies.
We are on the same page, Yard Dog. :gocho:
:thumbsup: :cheers:
Post by: mocat on August 23, 2017, 10:49:01 AM
I feel like I enjoy it the most
ok sansa
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 23, 2017, 10:51:38 AM
Post by: SdK on August 23, 2017, 12:42:12 PM
That second trailer. Lone wolf dies, pack survives. No Jon!
Has Sansa made this remark yet? Don't recall it if she has.
I'm calling that is what she is saying as Littlefinger dies / is about to die. :excited:
I bet you ARE RIGHT!
Post by: star seed 7 on August 23, 2017, 01:04:13 PM
Mostly I like to point out inconsistencies but then have a discussion and come up with a plausible solution. It doesn't diminish my viewing enjoyment.
Not plausible solutions are also fun
Post by: 'taterblast on August 23, 2017, 01:05:27 PM
Post by: catastrophe on August 23, 2017, 01:07:08 PM
Post by: michigancat on August 23, 2017, 01:17:47 PM
Would probably be easier to sneak in as someone who is not a recognizable enemy of the queen.
yes because cersei has a ton of non-enemies
Although maybe the iron bank pedophile? :surprised:
Post by: mocat on August 23, 2017, 01:19:14 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 23, 2017, 01:22:27 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 23, 2017, 01:24:51 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 23, 2017, 01:26:00 PM
Why wouldn't she just use drogan's face?
I don't think needle would pierce drogon deep enough to get the kill. Plus, Dany probably doesn't want to marry one of her children.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 23, 2017, 01:34:24 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 23, 2017, 01:51:51 PM
Post by: asava on August 23, 2017, 01:53:16 PM
You just kill dany dur
AND MARRY HERSELF?! You're mumped up man.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 23, 2017, 01:54:40 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 23, 2017, 01:58:12 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 23, 2017, 01:59:20 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 23, 2017, 02:01:51 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 23, 2017, 02:03:45 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 23, 2017, 02:06:22 PM
I'm just putting this out there - I'd be Ok if Sansa and Bran are killed.
Bran needs to tell everyone that Jon is the heir to the throne first!
Post by: star seed 7 on August 23, 2017, 02:08:36 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 23, 2017, 02:19:02 PM
Post by: Tobias on August 23, 2017, 02:33:40 PM
Post by: TownieCat on August 23, 2017, 02:37:02 PM
Post by: halfEmpty on August 23, 2017, 02:39:31 PM
Post by: mocat on August 23, 2017, 02:43:47 PM
Post by: halfEmpty on August 23, 2017, 02:45:16 PM
littlefinger doesn't kill anybody, he just convinces people to kill people. he'll have an easier time convincing sansa because she's an idiot
Well, except Lysa...
Post by: Gooch on August 23, 2017, 02:50:23 PM
I'm OK with everyone except tormund and sandor getting dedIs Tormund the ginger Wildling? I was set to be so pissed last 'sode when it looked like he was going to die.
Post by: Tobias on August 23, 2017, 02:52:04 PM
Post by: Gooch on August 23, 2017, 02:53:52 PM
ms tobias will probably rage quit when this happensJon and his stupid rough ridin' plans are going to get him killed. :shakesfist:
Post by: michigancat on August 23, 2017, 02:54:01 PM
I think I mentioned it, but the only remotely likeable characters are Davos and the Hound (Sandor). And maybe Tyrion but he sucks now. The rest probably should die really.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 23, 2017, 02:56:38 PM
Post by: catastrophe on August 23, 2017, 02:56:52 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 23, 2017, 02:58:48 PM
Also, if a dragon has to kill his own brother, I am not going to be happy.
Post by: michigancat on August 23, 2017, 02:59:34 PM
The Hound can die any time now. He's worn out his usefulness. I hope Tormund gets to reunite with Brienne though.
Also, if a dragon has to kill his own brother, I am not going to be happy.
oh cmon you know the hound is going after his brother
Post by: michigancat on August 23, 2017, 03:00:06 PM
I would be ok with the Hound and Davos as the last living people in Westeros. And then a spinoff show if just them out there saying clever things like an odd couple type deal.
I'd support this
Post by: catastrophe on August 23, 2017, 03:00:32 PM
Post by: michigancat on August 23, 2017, 03:15:42 PM
If the Hound doesn't slay the Mountain I will feel like the entire show was a waste.
well I mean it kinda is if that's the payoff
Post by: asava on August 23, 2017, 03:42:28 PM
I would be ok with the Hound and Davos as the last living people in Westeros. And then a spinoff show if just them out there saying clever things like an odd couple type deal.
I'd support this
Ohhhh man, a Perfect Strangers situation with Davos and the Hound would be increds.
Post by: AppleJack on August 23, 2017, 03:52:20 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 23, 2017, 03:54:07 PM
Here are the only characters I'd like to see come through this:
1. Hound
2. Jon
3. Jamie
4. Tormund & Brianne (she deserves something nice)
5. Tyrion
Also, as villains go, the Night King doesn't seem all that bad. I mean he's obviously got different goals but he never seems to get angry or vindictive. He seems to be playing on a whole other level. I would much prefer to see him survive instead of, say, Cersei or Littlefinger.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 23, 2017, 03:57:34 PM
Post by: mocat on August 23, 2017, 04:10:43 PM
Post by: stunted on August 23, 2017, 04:58:53 PM
Post by: joda on August 23, 2017, 08:58:29 PM
I guess we aren't going to need 3 dragon riders now.
What if Jon, with all his re-born stuff plus the half Targ/half Stark thing is able to ride the ice dragon?
I can almost picture a scene happening where ice dragon helps bring down the wall and right when everything seems lost he flys in front of Jon and a scene occurs mirroring the scene on Dragonstone after Dany takes out the wagon train. Jon climbs on the ice dragon and turns the table on the Night King.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 23, 2017, 10:03:21 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 24, 2017, 12:01:26 AM
Another option is that Jon is gonna betray her and double back on bending the knee, but not sure how he would do that for love.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 24, 2017, 08:20:01 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 24, 2017, 08:38:00 AM
What happened to Dany's son becoming the stallion who rules the world? Did that die with her stillborn (monster?) baby or is it still a possibility? I mean that baby didn't rule the world so the prophesy hasn't been fulfilled.
Was that a "prophecy" or just something Drogo decided based on Dothraki folklore? He said "hey, my son's gonna be the Stallion that rules the world." Nope. And even if that's a prophecy, sometimes people misread them, like Stannis thinking he was Azor Azai or whatever.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 24, 2017, 09:03:32 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 24, 2017, 09:07:11 AM
Quote
The Stallion Who Mounts the World (Dothraki: Vezh fin saja rhaesheseres) is a prophecy in the Dothraki religion. According to the prophecy, the Stallion is the "khal of khals" who will unite all the Dothraki under his single khalasar and ride to the ends of the earth. The prophecy states that "he will be the khal of khals, and all the people of the world will be his herd."
Sounds like Dany is the stallion who mounted the world.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 24, 2017, 09:08:58 AM
QuoteThe Stallion Who Mounts the World (Dothraki: Vezh fin saja rhaesheseres) is a prophecy in the Dothraki religion. According to the prophecy, the Stallion is the "khal of khals" who will unite all the Dothraki under his single khalasar and ride to the ends of the earth. The prophecy states that "he will be the khal of khals, and all the people of the world will be his herd."
Sounds like Dany is the stallion who mounted the world.
More like the night king
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 24, 2017, 09:17:01 AM
QuoteThe Stallion Who Mounts the World (Dothraki: Vezh fin saja rhaesheseres) is a prophecy in the Dothraki religion. According to the prophecy, the Stallion is the "khal of khals" who will unite all the Dothraki under his single khalasar and ride to the ends of the earth. The prophecy states that "he will be the khal of khals, and all the people of the world will be his herd."
Sounds like Dany is the stallion who mounted the world.
More like the night king
The Night king didn't unite all the khalasars....yet.... :sdeek:
Post by: TownieCat on August 24, 2017, 09:18:53 AM
Post by: mocat on August 24, 2017, 09:22:17 AM
QuoteThe Stallion Who Mounts the World (Dothraki: Vezh fin saja rhaesheseres) is a prophecy in the Dothraki religion. According to the prophecy, the Stallion is the "khal of khals" who will unite all the Dothraki under his single khalasar and ride to the ends of the earth. The prophecy states that "he will be the khal of khals, and all the people of the world will be his herd."
Sounds like Dany is the stallion who mounted the world.
Drogon
Post by: star seed 7 on August 24, 2017, 09:22:54 AM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 24, 2017, 09:28:40 AM
What if dumb little Sam convinces his irl half brothers to kill the night king and dumb little Sam mounts the world?
Interesting theory and plausible since Sam should be a teenager by the time the White Walkers get to King's Landing.
Post by: halfEmpty on August 24, 2017, 09:33:16 AM
Post by: TownieCat on August 24, 2017, 09:40:52 AM
Like 30% of pregnancies are naturally terminated
Do the Westerosi know the dangers of drinking alcohol during pregnancy? Could be an issue for Cersei.
Post by: SdK on August 24, 2017, 09:42:40 AM
Are some of you bringing book references into the show thread?
Post by: halfEmpty on August 24, 2017, 09:45:08 AM
Quick Q:
Are some of you bringing book references into the show thread?
Yes, kindof. I forget at times where the book ends and the show begins, and since we are beyond the books, I think everything from books should be taken with many grains of salt
Post by: SdK on August 24, 2017, 09:47:42 AM
Quick Q:
Are some of you bringing book references into the show thread?
Yes, kindof. I forget at times where the book ends and the show begins, and since we are beyond the books, I think everything from books should be taken with many grains of salt
I was just wondering if I had early onset Drumpfmentia as I don't get some of the references. I have not read any of the books.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 24, 2017, 09:49:38 AM
Quick Q:
Are some of you bringing book references into the show thread?
That Azhor Azai talk is from the books. I don't think that name has been mentioned on the show although The Prince (or a person of unknown gender who is heir to a throne) Who Was Promised has been mentioned and that's the same person (I think).
But the Stallion who Mounts the World was in the show.
Post by: CHONGS on August 24, 2017, 09:50:37 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 24, 2017, 09:51:19 AM
That baby warged into the night king.
:sdeek:
Post by: star seed 7 on August 24, 2017, 09:52:06 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 24, 2017, 09:53:36 AM
That baby warged into the night king.
Cerci's or dany's
Post by: mocat on August 24, 2017, 09:56:16 AM
Post by: CHONGS on August 24, 2017, 10:03:39 AM
Same babyThat baby warged into the night king.
Cerci's or dany's
Post by: star seed 7 on August 24, 2017, 10:10:04 AM
Same babyThat baby warged into the night king.
Cerci's or dany's
Is this the time traveling sperm theory and tyrion is the eventual birth?
Post by: CHONGS on August 24, 2017, 10:16:44 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 24, 2017, 10:17:34 AM
It's a ghost baby.
Ghost had a baby?
Post by: star seed 7 on August 24, 2017, 10:18:21 AM
Post by: CHONGS on August 24, 2017, 10:19:48 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 24, 2017, 01:20:58 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 24, 2017, 01:49:13 PM
Quote
‘Game of Thrones’ Director Alan Taylor Breaks Down Timeline in ‘Beyond the Wall’
http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/%E2%80%98game-of-thrones%E2%80%99-director-alan-taylor-breaks-down-timeline-in-%E2%80%98beyond-the-wall%E2%80%99/ar-AAquZxp?li=BBnbfcL
Post by: TownieCat on August 24, 2017, 02:00:55 PM
http://www.ireland.com/features/game-of-thrones-tapestry/
Not enough gratuitous nudity, IMO.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 24, 2017, 02:02:42 PM
Post by: mocat on August 24, 2017, 02:18:20 PM
Did you see the Mel & Stannis sex and then birth of the smoke demon thing?
also possible theon's dong sighting
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 24, 2017, 02:28:47 PM
Did you see the Mel & Stannis sex and then birth of the smoke demon thing?
also possible theon's dong sighting
Also a couple of naked Dany standing amongst flames.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 24, 2017, 03:16:29 PM
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Post by: puniraptor on August 24, 2017, 06:09:40 PM
I think just manipulating.
Post by: michigancat on August 24, 2017, 06:43:08 PM
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Post by: OK_Cat on August 24, 2017, 09:54:46 PM
Look at the nose. Bran is the night king.
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Post by: TownieCat on August 25, 2017, 07:56:01 AM
The actor who plays the night king was changed to more resemble the actor who plays bran.Meera also looks kinda like Jon so that is not great support for the theory.
Look at the nose. Bran is the night king.
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Post by: mocat on August 25, 2017, 08:22:44 AM
Post by: catastrophe on August 25, 2017, 08:29:10 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 25, 2017, 08:29:46 AM
the night king is definitely somebody
He's Brandon Stark, but not THAT Brandon Stark.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 25, 2017, 08:30:48 AM
Post by: mocat on August 25, 2017, 08:31:07 AM
the night king is definitely somebody
He's Brandon Stark, but not THAT Brandon Stark.
i thought the "night's king" in the book is different from the "night king" in the show
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 25, 2017, 08:33:35 AM
the night king is definitely somebody
He's Brandon Stark, but not THAT Brandon Stark.
i thought the "night's king" in the book is different from the "night king" in the show
Yes, true but that's just my theory about the show.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 25, 2017, 08:44:05 AM
The actor who plays the night king was changed to more resemble the actor who plays bran.
Look at the nose. Bran is the night king.
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Or maybe they just had a conflicting schedule with the previous actor.
Or maybe they just decided to make the night king actor a stuntman because he going to be doing some crazy awesome dragon riding stunts soon.
Post by: Institutional Control on August 25, 2017, 08:45:52 AM
Post by: mocat on August 25, 2017, 09:01:14 AM
I'm pretty sure the NK is all CGI and not an actual actor.
incorrect. he's mostly makeup/prosthetics, and CGI adds the blue eyes and icy texture. it is known.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 25, 2017, 09:23:25 AM
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Post by: ChiComCat on August 25, 2017, 10:43:07 AM
Sometimes I like thinking about if the Night King speaks he'd sound like Bobcat Goldthwait.
:love:
Mike Tyson would be great too
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 25, 2017, 10:54:13 AM
Hardhome Depot
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 25, 2017, 10:56:08 AM
Where did the wights get all those chains?
Hardhome Depot
The Night King (Bran) knew the dragons were coming so he probably has been busy making those chains for years now.
Post by: OK_Cat on August 25, 2017, 11:18:09 AM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 25, 2017, 11:38:02 AM
The actor that plays night king is the same actor that the children shoved the dragon glass in his chest, noobs
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Well yeah.
Post by: michigancat on August 25, 2017, 12:15:21 PM
The actor that plays night king is the same actor that the children shoved the dragon glass in his chest, noobs
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Well yeah.
I had completely forgotten all that. Maybe I skipped a season?
Post by: star seed 7 on August 25, 2017, 12:20:29 PM
Post by: michigancat on August 25, 2017, 12:21:07 PM
It was in the hodor episode last season
why did they do that? what a bunch of dicks
Post by: star seed 7 on August 25, 2017, 12:28:41 PM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 25, 2017, 03:59:48 PM
Post by: michigancat on August 25, 2017, 04:23:23 PM
https://twitter.com/broderick/status/900830447944466434
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FC4TdRFK.png%3F1&hash=8faeb0576b91cb84c6f9dabc74804c7b74ef4193)
:lol:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 25, 2017, 04:26:12 PM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 25, 2017, 08:53:15 PM
It's like the gronk party shipwut?
Post by: The Big Train on August 25, 2017, 08:55:36 PM
It's like the gronk party shipwut?
When that Gronk party ship website got posted like 10 times and sometimes several times on the same page. Was just trying to make a creative 'Luked' comment, don't go nuclear again.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 25, 2017, 09:03:33 PM
Post by: puniraptor on August 25, 2017, 10:31:16 PM
Post by: michigancat on August 26, 2017, 12:01:36 AM
rusty i think when you are getting fluffed over tormunds gay sex jokes you should also remember that he is probably also referring to his tryst with sheila the bearI don't remember that at all
Post by: michigancat on August 26, 2017, 12:02:08 AM
Post by: puniraptor on August 26, 2017, 12:22:05 AM
what if the zombie bear was sheila :surprised:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 26, 2017, 08:18:47 AM
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Post by: michigancat on August 26, 2017, 03:25:54 PM
oh, i also liked the arya/sansa stuff.Yeah it's probably the most interesting thing happening now
Post by: sys on August 26, 2017, 03:55:34 PM
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/08/game-of-thrones-season-7-episode-6-beyond-the-wall-who-died-low-stakes#intcid=dt-recirc-cral1_1
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/08/game-of-thrones-longclaw-eye-bran-warg-theory-alan-taylor-interview-beyond-the-wall#intcid=dt-recirc-cral1_1
Post by: michigancat on August 26, 2017, 04:27:20 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 26, 2017, 11:17:17 PM
We'll likely see at least one major death in the final episode. I'm also guessing this is where the final of Dany's three betrayals comes to fruition, and it is Jamie once again breaking an oath to spring a trap on Dany for his love for Cersei.
My biggest curiousity at this point is whether the show introduces Howland Reed in the final season, or just abandons that story.
Post by: puniraptor on August 26, 2017, 11:18:45 PM
Post by: halfEmpty on August 26, 2017, 11:47:29 PM
The 3rd betrayal thing for me is confusing. Is it someone who loves her that will betray her, or someone who betrays her for love of another?
What about Daario?
Post by: sys on August 27, 2017, 01:06:25 AM
The recent lack of main character deaths seems like a pretty silly criticism to me. The problem is the story - not the survivor count.
i agree and disagree. the book goes to great effort to kill of important characters in order to create the impression for the reader that all characters are potentially in mortal jeopardy. but of course you can't actually kill off your true protagonist(s), at least not before the end of the story. so, basically the author spent an enormous amount of time in character development creating false protagonists in order to give the reader that impression. it was a storytelling technique that i found very effective - i was shocked when i read the red wedding and the impression it (and to a lesser extent other deaths) left stayed with me, lending drama to subsequent events.
for this season and last, the series has burned through the effect of that effort in an accelerated and pointless manner - characters dying and being brought back to life with no ill effect, characters needlessly placing themselves in harm's way and then, through no virtue or skill of their own, being rescued or dodging death in implausible manner. over and over again. so yes, it has been the ridiculous and unnecessarily story that has destroyed that effect for no purpose, but the effect itself was painstakingly created by killing off characters that readers/viewers were encouraged to invest in. they didn't necessarily need to continue racking up bodies, but they should have valued the impact of those earlier deaths more highly.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 27, 2017, 07:34:25 AM
The 3rd betrayal thing for me is confusing. Is it someone who loves her that will betray her, or someone who betrays her for love of another?
What about Daario?
Exactly. I think a lot of people think the prophesy is referring to someone who loves Dany, and I think that's a headfake. I can even remember now if Daario betrayed her in the books. I think he just kind of went away in the show.
Post by: puniraptor on August 27, 2017, 08:56:43 AM
Post by: mocat on August 27, 2017, 09:02:01 AM
Post by: michigancat on August 27, 2017, 09:23:46 AM
Is the new Daario Sarah Manning's baby daddy, or was it the original one? Where has that clown been?
Post by: Tobias on August 27, 2017, 09:47:25 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 27, 2017, 01:42:17 PM
Also, relax, it's Sunday
Post by: SdK on August 27, 2017, 01:56:33 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 27, 2017, 04:02:08 PM
Post by: puniraptor on August 27, 2017, 05:23:28 PM
Yeah the old guy was way too ugly for Dany dearest.
that was part of the appeal
Post by: puniraptor on August 27, 2017, 05:24:16 PM
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Post by: mocat on August 27, 2017, 05:39:35 PM
Daario 2 is a handyman flanel shirt type guy who can kill his way through twenty people and then hang your drywall for you
Post by: puniraptor on August 27, 2017, 05:58:57 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 27, 2017, 07:17:02 PM
Daario 1 was an airhead zoolander type
Daario 2 is a handyman flanel shirt type guy who can kill his way through twenty people and then hang your drywall for you
I agree with this 100%.
Post by: puniraptor on August 27, 2017, 07:35:35 PM
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Post by: wetwillie on August 27, 2017, 09:45:05 PM
Post by: SdK on August 27, 2017, 09:45:48 PM
See ya'll in two years.Exactly
Post by: star seed 7 on August 27, 2017, 09:46:00 PM
Did she say Jon's name is Aegon? Didn't Raegar already have a son named Aegon that was murdered by Robert Baratheon?
yeah, it's another aegon
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 27, 2017, 09:49:49 PM
Did she say Jon's name is Aegon? Didn't Raegar already have a son named Aegon that was murdered by Robert Baratheon?
yeah, it's another aegon
I mean I get that people name their kids after ancestors a lot in this show, but that means Rhaegar had 2 sons named Aegon. How confusing.
Post by: SdK on August 27, 2017, 09:50:17 PM
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Post by: mocat on August 27, 2017, 09:54:20 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 27, 2017, 09:55:42 PM
You may be the only one confused
They changed Asha's name to Yara to avoid confusion but now we have two sons of the same guy with the exact same name.
Post by: OK_Cat on August 27, 2017, 09:55:52 PM
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Post by: joda on August 27, 2017, 10:03:51 PM
So awesome. Super satisfying watching the Starks kill littlefinger
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Right up there with Joffrey's death
Post by: SdK on August 27, 2017, 10:20:15 PM
Only one of which that is relevant to the show moving forward.You may be the only one confused
They changed Asha's name to Yara to avoid confusion but now we have two sons of the same guy with the exact same name.
Post by: SdK on August 27, 2017, 10:21:06 PM
Yes.So awesome. Super satisfying watching the Starks kill littlefinger
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Right up there with Joffrey's death
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Post by: SdK on August 27, 2017, 10:21:30 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 27, 2017, 10:23:01 PM
House Clegane was built upon dead children. I saw them lay Prince Aegon and Princess Rhaenys before the Iron Throne.
-Thoros of Myr
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 27, 2017, 10:45:56 PM
The dragonpit scene was surprisingly well done. Fun reunions.
That Clegane face off was straight out of a WWE smackdown. Cleganbowl!
Hey Cersei actually does something pretty clever! But good for Jamie - you can do better, bro.
Yay Theon.
Oh so turns out all Bran had to do was tell the crazy sisters everything LF did. Yeah that'll work.
Sam's reaction to Bran. :lol:
Dany doesn't seem to mind having sex with a guy with a bunch of creepy open knife wounds. Seems unsanitary.
Wonder what the whole timeline was with Rhaegar's kids being killed, getting remarried, having Aegon2. Agree there's something weird here. Also how much longer are they going to stretch out the twin Meera reveal?!
Oh so turns out frosty ice dragon breath can melt Walls. And you know Tormund is gonna survive this.
Post by: sys on August 28, 2017, 12:23:28 AM
Post by: puniraptor on August 28, 2017, 05:11:04 AM
Post by: halfEmpty on August 28, 2017, 08:12:49 AM
On that note, we see just how terrible the wight mission was. No new ally, and you gave the NK the ultimate weapon.
We explicitly found out that Jon is a legit Targ. Will he have his long needed talk with Bran now that everyone is converging on winterfell? Or will they divert and head further north now that the Dead are coming? I hope they don't leave that hanging out there as it will add a new dynamic to the Dany and Jon saga. Jorah definitely tried to keep them from being on the same boat together, and of course, the aforementioned Tyrion creeping.
We finally got a straightforward time estimate from KL to Winterfell. 2 weeks on horseback.
Sam's reaction to Bran was great! I may actually end up liking this Sam guy after all.
Rhaegar, his ex-wife, and first 2 kids were killed shortly before Jon was born. The war was started because Rhaegar "kidnapped" Lyanna, so the deaths happened after they were married.
I believe the ice dragon breathes ice breath not ice fire breath. It looked like it made the wall so cold and brittle that it crumbled under it's own weight instead of melting it.
No way Tormund and Beric are dead. Beric still has to accomplish something, otherwise being brought back to life a dozen times makes no sense. And, you just can't get rid of Red Beard yet.
The Littlefinger end was satisfying. I was hinging there for a minute, like, ok girls, don't tell me he still has you crossed.
Post by: pissclams on August 28, 2017, 08:17:38 AM
Post by: mocat on August 28, 2017, 08:34:52 AM
Jamie's I don't believe you to walk past the mountain was top notch as well.
yeah this was really really good
Post by: TownieCat on August 28, 2017, 08:39:16 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on August 28, 2017, 09:08:48 AM
"Hey, I am a completely broken man that is a world class coward. I will now somehow beat up a veteran warrior 3x my size and then everyone else will follow me because that makes sense."
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 28, 2017, 09:09:54 AM
The Theon redemption was maybe the worst thing about the show.
"Hey, I am a completely broken man that is a world class coward. I will now somehow beat up a veteran warrior 3x my size and then everyone else will follow me because that makes sense."
Having no dick gives you super powers. Duh.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 28, 2017, 09:10:45 AM
George Foreman has five sons named George Foreman (all alive) so I don't see the big deal about the Aegon thing.
LOL. Yes! that is exactly what I was thinking too! Who does Rhaegar think he is? George Forman? Why didn't he name is daughter Aegonys?
Post by: star seed 7 on August 28, 2017, 09:10:58 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 28, 2017, 09:11:52 AM
George Foreman has five sons named George Foreman (all alive) so I don't see the big deal about the Aegon thing.
LOL. Yes! that is exactly what I was thinking too! Who does Rhaegar think he is? George Forman? Why didn't he name is daughter Aegonys?
Lyanna named the kid, rheagar was ded
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 28, 2017, 09:12:45 AM
I think the dragon was breathing blue fire (hotter than normal fire); not exactly sure though.
Post by: mocat on August 28, 2017, 09:14:43 AM
also brienne is easily the worst actor in the entire show. SAD!
Post by: joda on August 28, 2017, 09:31:18 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 28, 2017, 10:26:51 AM
George Foreman has five sons named George Foreman (all alive) so I don't see the big deal about the Aegon thing.
LOL. Yes! that is exactly what I was thinking too! Who does Rhaegar think he is? George Forman? Why didn't he name is daughter Aegonys?
Lyanna named the kid, rheagar was ded
Yeah, I still haven't pieced it all together, but that's probably right.
We know that Rhaegar goes south with Lyanna and they get married (and she even looks pregnant in the flashback). Then he heads back north to fight Robert and loses. Then Robert descends to Kings Landing and kills Rhaegar's ex-wife (did she even know?) and kids. Then Ned continues south to find Lyanna.
So we know that Rhaegar was dead by the time Jon was born, and Rhaegar's other kids were still alive the last time he and Lyanna were still together.
So I really doubt Rhaegar said to Lyanna before he left "hey, let's name this kid Aegon if he's a boy - cause that won't be confusing at all what with the line of succession thing."
So it's likely that Lyanna picked the name herself later. Question is, did she know when she picked it that Aegon v1 had been killed? I'm guessing yes, because it's likely the news from KL made to the TOJ before Ned did, right? I mean somebody would have sent a warning to Dayne, right?
So I guess that explains why Lyanna picked the name - using the same name symbolized that one boy had replaced the other in the line of succession. Still a little creepy but might make sense to Lyanna.
I'm sure I'm way over-thinking this but it's interesting!
Post by: star seed 7 on August 28, 2017, 10:34:22 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 28, 2017, 10:34:49 AM
I knew that they were going to turn on Littlefinger as soon as Arya walked into the room but it was still so satisfying. I was a little surprised he begged so much.
LF's end was so predictable that I didn't predict it. I've gotten so used to key characters not sharing information, even when they're in the same place, that I didn't consider that Bran might behave rationally and tell his sisters what's up. The whole "having a guy who can tell you everything's that's going on" thing makes the sister squabble a bit superfluous at this point.
I'm glad that it's (hopefully) wrapped up now because the Winterfell crap was easily the most tedious part of this season, right?
Post by: TownieCat on August 28, 2017, 10:47:55 AM
I knew that they were going to turn on Littlefinger as soon as Arya walked into the room but it was still so satisfying. I was a little surprised he begged so much.
LF's end was so predictable that I didn't predict it. I've gotten so used to key characters not sharing information, even when they're in the same place, that I didn't consider that Bran might behave rationally and tell his sisters what's up. The whole "having a guy who can tell you everything's that's going on" thing makes the sister squabble a bit superfluous at this point.
I'm glad that it's (hopefully) wrapped up now because the Winterfell crap was easily the most tedious part of this season, right?
This same kind of thinking is why Tyrion is definitely up to something. We never saw the ending of his convo with Cersei.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 28, 2017, 10:57:32 AM
As far as the incest thing, Dany was originally expecting to marry her brother so hooking up with her nephew is less incesty so it should be ok.
I like how Bran was condescendingly explaining to Sam how "Sand" is the bastard name in Dorne before Sam told him the whole story. :lol:
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 28, 2017, 11:28:01 AM
I knew that they were going to turn on Littlefinger as soon as Arya walked into the room but it was still so satisfying. I was a little surprised he begged so much.
LF's end was so predictable that I didn't predict it. I've gotten so used to key characters not sharing information, even when they're in the same place, that I didn't consider that Bran might behave rationally and tell his sisters what's up. The whole "having a guy who can tell you everything's that's going on" thing makes the sister squabble a bit superfluous at this point.
I'm glad that it's (hopefully) wrapped up now because the Winterfell crap was easily the most tedious part of this season, right?
This same kind of thinking is why Tyrion is definitely up to something. We never saw the ending of his convo with Cersei.
Good point. That whole scene was extremely weird, and it really didn't make sense to cut off at Tyrion asking if she was pregnant - unless the writers are hiding something.
Post by: Panjandrum on August 28, 2017, 11:49:00 AM
I mean, I get that the show and the books split, but I'm not thrilled that they merged Jon/Aegon. Of course, they merged Jorah and Jon Connington, so, hey, whatever.
But the symbolism that you need to remember is that Dany rides Drogon, and the remaining dragon is Rhaegal. Her three dragons were named after the men in her life that died (Drogo, Rhaegar, and Viserys). Viserys turned on her, and Viserion is the one the Night King is riding.
My guess is that Dany will ride Drogon, and Jon will ride Rhaegal.
I now seriously wonder how they're going to work Azor Ahai into this, but whatever. I think I know, but I'm not happy if that's how they choose to do it.
Post by: Yard Dog on August 28, 2017, 11:59:40 AM
Yes, I am also wondering what is going on with Tyrion.
As far as the incest thing, Dany was originally expecting to marry her brother so hooking up with her nephew is less incesty so it should be ok.
I like how Bran was condescendingly explaining to Sam how "Sand" is the bastard name in Dorne before Sam told him the whole story. :lol:
You could say he was "Bransplaining" if you will. :lol:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 28, 2017, 12:22:19 PM
"Bransplaining"
:thumbs:
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 28, 2017, 12:53:56 PM
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Post by: michigancat on August 28, 2017, 11:24:32 PM
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Post by: michigancat on August 28, 2017, 11:30:48 PM
1) Cave drawings
2) Lannister dork march
3) Javelin throw
only one of them made the recap
Post by: michigancat on August 28, 2017, 11:32:38 PM
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Post by: sys on August 28, 2017, 11:54:33 PM
lol at the fast forward zombie sprint
they have two speeds.
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Post by: The Big Train on August 29, 2017, 07:25:01 AM
Post by: pissclams on August 29, 2017, 07:45:23 AM
Post by: catastrophe on August 29, 2017, 08:25:16 AM
Undead dragon with holes in its wings: lol, that's just ridiculous
Post by: michigancat on August 29, 2017, 08:39:17 AM
Undead dragon: yeah, that's believableHey thanks I know it's magic but like did we really need rough ridin' holes on the wings to recognize it's a zombie dragon? It's hilarious.
Undead dragon with holes in its wings: lol, that's just ridiculous
Post by: michigancat on August 29, 2017, 08:40:51 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 29, 2017, 08:46:30 AM
oh man they were in cahoots the whole time, no way
I don't think they were in cahoots the whole time (season)...just the last episode.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 29, 2017, 08:52:13 AM
Undead dragon: yeah, that's believable
Undead dragon with holes in its wings: lol, that's just ridiculous
It looked like the holes in the wings made it a lot faster. Speed holes.
I hear this show isn't coming back until probably 2019? Wow. Might get a new book between now and then.
Post by: sys on August 29, 2017, 09:12:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIqOf0qI2H4&t=4s
Post by: michigancat on August 29, 2017, 09:14:14 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 29, 2017, 09:17:06 AM
Also, Jon lighting the zombie on fire would have been a great shark tank pitch.
:lol:
Post by: pissclams on August 29, 2017, 09:18:36 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 29, 2017, 09:26:06 AM
if the dragon can defy newton's third law and fly with holes in it's wings, what's the point in having wings in the first place because the wings are not needed
The wings are needed for directional control and stability. Duh.
Post by: sys on August 29, 2017, 09:27:12 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 29, 2017, 09:31:36 AM
some (most) of the non-dragon zombies don't have some (most) muscles, but their limbs still work. also, the night king should have more zombie animals - bears, wolves, moose, mastodons or whatever mance rayder's elephants were.
Maybe they'll pick up some zombie wolves as they travel south.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 29, 2017, 09:43:19 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 29, 2017, 09:44:37 AM
I'd like to see a zombie zombie
Like, the Mountain being turned into a wight?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 29, 2017, 09:58:40 AM
I'd like to see a zombie zombie
Like, the Mountain being turned into a wight?
or jon snow
Post by: michigancat on August 29, 2017, 01:51:39 PM
i just found this and will be watching more of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIqOf0qI2H4&t=4s
lol this is great
Post by: mocat on August 29, 2017, 02:00:07 PM
Post by: michigancat on August 29, 2017, 03:20:55 PM
is there a way to change all the voices in that video to non-excruciatingly terrible ones? would settle for gravelly whispersIt almost sounds they're trying to emulate the gravelly whisper
Post by: mocat on August 29, 2017, 03:24:59 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 29, 2017, 03:43:22 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 29, 2017, 03:51:58 PM
Theon isn't supposed to know where Euron is going, but I'm betting he finds him in episode 1 of the next season.
Well maybe he left soon enough that he catches up with Euron before he would have to turn off* and then Theon discovers that he isn't going to the Iron Islands after all.
* I did not look at the map to see if this is even a feasible story.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 29, 2017, 04:03:34 PM
Theon isn't supposed to know where Euron is going, but I'm betting he finds him in episode 1 of the next season.
Well maybe he left soon enough that he catches up with Euron before he would have to turn off* and then Theon discovers that he isn't going to the Iron Islands after all.
* I did not look at the map to see if this is even a feasible story.
The iron islands are off the west coast of the continent and the Golden Company is across the narrow sea to the east.
Post by: Tobias on August 29, 2017, 11:10:08 PM
Also, Jon lighting the zombie on fire would have been a great shark tank pitch.
this is exactly what ms tobias said, holy crap
Post by: Tobias on August 29, 2017, 11:11:07 PM
top 3 moments so far:
1) Cave drawings
still my fave
Post by: Tobias on August 29, 2017, 11:11:48 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 29, 2017, 11:27:29 PM
Post by: puniraptor on August 29, 2017, 11:38:47 PM
I called my shot long ago
search it up
Post by: star seed 7 on August 30, 2017, 07:21:25 AM
Post by: SdK on August 30, 2017, 12:18:02 PM
Post by: Cire on September 05, 2017, 06:31:06 PM
Rather than divide the text in half chronologically, Martin opted to instead split the material by character and location, resulting in "two novels taking place simultaneously" with different casts of characters.
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Post by: mocat on September 05, 2017, 06:35:55 PM
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 12, 2017, 10:34:31 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 12, 2017, 10:41:00 AM
alright. I'm all caught up now. When the hell does the rest come out!? And how many more seasons are we expecting
Just one more season, sometime in 2019.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 12, 2017, 10:44:00 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 12, 2017, 10:55:24 AM
Also the wall was suppose to have some magic correct? did the dragozombie just make all of that go away?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the deadites are going to be in Winterfell next season.
Post by: TownieCat on September 12, 2017, 11:54:08 AM
Also the wall was suppose to have some magic correct? did the dragozombie just make all of that go away?
The magic of the 3ER's weirwood tree went away after the Night King touched Bran, so Bran going south of The Wall likely had same effect.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 12, 2017, 11:55:20 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 12, 2017, 11:57:45 AM
Also the wall was suppose to have some magic correct? did the dragozombie just make all of that go away?
The magic of the 3ER's weirwood tree went away after the Night King touched Bran, so Bran going south of The Wall likely had same effect.
No, smdh. The magic was good as long as the wall stands. The dargon brought down (some of) the wall so no more magics at that spot smdh
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 12, 2017, 12:02:35 PM
damn you dargon?Also the wall was suppose to have some magic correct? did the dragozombie just make all of that go away?
The magic of the 3ER's weirwood tree went away after the Night King touched Bran, so Bran going south of The Wall likely had same effect.
No, smdh. The magic was good as long as the wall stands. The dargon brought down (some of) the wall so no more magics at that spot smdh
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 12, 2017, 12:24:22 PM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 04, 2018, 01:54:49 PM
Gee, thanks for all the detailed info. :Roll Eyes:
Post by: The Big Train on February 17, 2018, 10:21:19 AM
So I already kind of read ahead but the end of season 6, John is a Targaryen!? I’m also kind of glad I have binged through this whole thing from the beginning. Watching this thing to this point over the span of years I just don’t think I could have waited that long.
Post by: wetwillie on February 17, 2018, 10:41:27 AM
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Post by: star seed 7 on February 18, 2018, 07:45:07 PM
Next season's zombie dragon action is going to be pretty good. That wall is dead meat.
They already broke the wall Pete
Post by: Pete on February 18, 2018, 08:18:45 PM
Next season's zombie dragon action is going to be pretty good. That wall is dead meat.
They already broke the wall Pete
Like, part was still there, wasn’t it?
Post by: star seed 7 on February 18, 2018, 08:21:43 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on February 20, 2018, 03:31:20 PM
dumb showi especially don't like that one part where the plot makes no sense and the characters are really one dimensional
Post by: mocat on February 27, 2018, 10:45:11 PM
https://twitter.com/PabloTorre/status/968620097261760515?s=19
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 13, 2019, 08:56:25 PM
https://twitter.com/gameofthrones/status/1084631184804433921
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 13, 2019, 09:01:02 PM
https://twitter.com/crimsonkook/status/1084639272622350337
Post by: Cire on January 15, 2019, 12:59:46 PM
Post by: Spracne on January 15, 2019, 01:06:52 PM
I think it's just a crappy sculpture.Twas my thought as well.
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Post by: michigancat on January 16, 2019, 09:19:29 AM
Post by: DaBigTrain on January 16, 2019, 12:45:27 PM
Am I gonna have to get HBO again to crap all over this stupid show?
:comeatme:
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 11, 2019, 09:37:33 AM
Post by: DaBigTrain on February 11, 2019, 10:14:44 AM
Anyone else re-watching? Mrs. WNK and I are following a GoT re-watch schedule that puts us up to the start of the new season. Helps with the anticipation.
I just finished rewatching the entire series last week. I can’t wait.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 11, 2019, 10:41:22 AM
I think this show was pretty amazing until the last season when it really got past GRRM's writing and started to slide into fan-fiction levels of dumbassery. All-in-all, though, I'm still looking forward to the final episodes. Can you name a TV show that's ever done better with a fantasy book series? A series that isn't even and probably never will be finished?
It's the best, but still somehow manages to disappoint. It's just too bad that GRRM is so lazy, because it kind of sucks knowing how much better the show would have been had he had it in him to finish his series in less than 30 years' time.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 11, 2019, 11:12:35 AM
I think this show was pretty amazing until the last season when it really got past GRRM's writing and started to slide into fan-fiction levels of dumbassery. All-in-all, though, I'm still looking forward to the final episodes. Can you name a TV show that's ever done better with a fantasy book series? A series that isn't even and probably never will be finished?
It's the best, but still somehow manages to disappoint. It's just too bad that GRRM is so lazy, because it kind of sucks knowing how much better the show would have had it in him to finish his series in less than 30 years' time.
I think the showrunners and screenwriters could have done a better job with this last season even without the final books, but otherwise I agree. Characters are suddenly teleporting all over Westeros to satisfy fan cravings and it’s getting a little silly.
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Post by: catastrophe on March 05, 2019, 10:36:19 PM
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Post by: mocat on April 09, 2019, 01:40:22 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 09, 2019, 02:11:30 PM
Started listening to book 4 and the first chapter after the prologue is 45 minutes of the damphair greyjoy snooze fest... Shut it off after 15 minutes and totally killed my desire to continue.
Post by: mocat on April 09, 2019, 02:24:02 PM
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Post by: catastrophe on April 09, 2019, 05:55:44 PM
Post by: Brock Landers on April 09, 2019, 06:33:12 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 09, 2019, 06:52:17 PM
6, 4, 3, 7, 2, 1, 5
Post by: Kat Kid on April 09, 2019, 07:24:21 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 09, 2019, 07:27:46 PM
I don't care any more. Last season sucked.
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 09, 2019, 07:29:33 PM
Post by: catastrophe on April 09, 2019, 11:16:02 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 10, 2019, 08:07:43 AM
Also...last season was not boring. Stop trying to be edgy and enjoy the ride. Series like this don't come around often.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 10, 2019, 12:23:00 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 10, 2019, 12:38:23 PM
Right now, I wouldn't skip a minute of it. I think starting around seasons 3 or 4 there's a few arcs I'll probably FF through if possible. Should hopefully be caught up before the series finale.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2019, 01:02:16 PM
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Post by: sys on April 10, 2019, 02:35:25 PM
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2019/04/game-of-thrones-season-8-preview-hbo-last-season/586834/
Post by: catastrophe on April 10, 2019, 04:34:03 PM
Post by: mocat on April 10, 2019, 04:57:02 PM
in the meantime i am very much enjoying db & db's dialogue and also expensive af wide shots of drogon burning stuff and also long tracking shots of bronn running around in the middle of it, Children of Men-style.
and jim broadbent! i forgot how great he is in everything.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2019, 04:59:41 PM
Post by: mocat on April 10, 2019, 05:03:57 PM
Post by: mocat on April 10, 2019, 05:07:42 PM
Yeah the wide shot of the dothraki screaming over the hill gives me chills every time
yes, but doesn't the fact that people seem to be able to travel around too fast sort of ruin the whole show for you? - idiots
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2019, 05:09:46 PM
as an aside, i am going to get absolutely smoked in got trivia tonight. would appreciate some t's & p's (to both the old gods and the new)
Well for starters there is only one true god
Post by: mocat on April 10, 2019, 05:23:24 PM
M
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Post by: mocat on April 11, 2019, 08:41:45 AM
Bran Stark
get out of here
No robb
correct
First I was like Jon, but quickly dismissed that then I thought bran/maester luwin but it didn't sound right and then I was like o wait there was a fourth in that scene.
i thought he may have said it to jaime when they were still buds
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 13, 2019, 09:41:27 AM
Post by: Pete on April 13, 2019, 09:42:11 AM
Yeah the wide shot of the dothraki screaming over the hill gives me chills every time
(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/4a/12/a5/4a12a5d283c6c08c1c4a2c5f16a057b8.jpg)
Post by: mocat on April 13, 2019, 10:26:54 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 14, 2019, 07:25:14 AM
Today is the day!
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 14, 2019, 08:37:34 AM
:Woohoo:
Today is the day!
:excited: :excited: :excited:
Post by: Brock Landers on April 14, 2019, 09:18:54 AM
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Post by: Pete on April 14, 2019, 05:48:15 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 14, 2019, 05:54:47 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 14, 2019, 06:09:33 PM
I hope Bran finally gets smoked tonight.
You are a monster!
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 14, 2019, 07:55:50 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 14, 2019, 07:57:04 PM
I am rooting for Tormund to do it to Brianne of Tarth.
There is nothing I want more
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 14, 2019, 08:04:13 PM
Post by: sys on April 14, 2019, 11:14:58 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 15, 2019, 08:20:45 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on April 15, 2019, 08:28:24 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 15, 2019, 08:29:14 AM
Post by: _33 on April 15, 2019, 08:32:24 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 15, 2019, 08:35:28 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2019, 08:36:20 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 15, 2019, 09:19:14 AM
Jon: "You're a man now."
Bran: "Almost."
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 15, 2019, 11:44:25 AM
Shark: Jumped
Post by: Cire on April 15, 2019, 12:33:55 PM
Post by: catastrophe on April 15, 2019, 02:40:54 PM
I mean so awkward...
Jon: "You're a man now."
Bran: "Almost."
Hopefully Jamie will push him out of his chair.
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 15, 2019, 06:36:31 PM
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Post by: DaBigTrain on April 15, 2019, 07:05:24 PM
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a26110455/littlefinger-alive-game-of-thrones/
Post by: nicname on April 17, 2019, 10:32:11 AM
:D
Post by: catastrophe on April 17, 2019, 10:57:30 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 17, 2019, 11:36:05 AM
I do
Post by: star seed 7 on April 17, 2019, 11:36:32 AM
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Post by: star seed 7 on April 17, 2019, 11:47:10 AM
:lol:
Post by: mocat on April 17, 2019, 11:51:45 AM
(https://i.redd.it/v5ye78irzps21.png)
Ahahaha
Post by: star seed 7 on April 17, 2019, 04:35:53 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 17, 2019, 06:26:48 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/WweOdcZ.jpg)
After Brienne dog walked his ass
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 18, 2019, 01:25:12 PM
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Post by: nicname on April 21, 2019, 03:10:27 PM
Post by: Spracne on April 21, 2019, 03:14:11 PM
Sansa Stark has developed from annoying teen/damsel in distress to the absolute most calculated and worthy leader in this series. I predict she will end the series either on the iron throne or ruling all of Westeros from Winterfell. That or at least at the end no one has more power or control than she.
Puke
Post by: sys on April 21, 2019, 03:47:26 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on April 21, 2019, 03:51:38 PM
to be fair, all the other characters are also gigantic raging idiots, so maybe she is, by comparison, the smartest. dunno.
This is it, the starks are just dumb af
Post by: catastrophe on April 21, 2019, 04:10:24 PM
Post by: sys on April 21, 2019, 04:11:31 PM
Post by: catastrophe on April 21, 2019, 04:16:13 PM
Post by: nicname on April 21, 2019, 04:41:19 PM
Dragon Queen: King’s Landing
Sansa: Winterfell
Missandre: base in one of the free cities (not really Westeros)
Yara: Iron Islands
Mom and Ninja girls: Dorne
Post by: wetwillie on April 21, 2019, 05:26:53 PM
Post by: Pete on April 21, 2019, 07:19:25 PM
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Post by: catastrophe on April 21, 2019, 07:50:27 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 21, 2019, 09:01:00 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 21, 2019, 10:30:14 PM
Post by: Spracne on April 21, 2019, 10:32:41 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 21, 2019, 11:14:45 PM
Post by: halfEmpty on April 21, 2019, 11:24:24 PM
My wife thinks women will rule Westeros in the end.
Dragon Queen: King’s Landing
Sansa: Winterfell
Missandre: base in one of the free cities (not really Westeros)
Yara: Iron Islands
Mom and Ninja girls: Dorne
The 3 Ninja girls are dead. Mom most likely is too.
Post by: sys on April 21, 2019, 11:45:54 PM
i didn't hate this episode, though. first time in about two seasons that i can say that.
Post by: wetwillie on April 22, 2019, 06:24:49 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 22, 2019, 07:18:28 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 22, 2019, 08:12:08 AM
What are you two excited about?
Many things to be excited about. This felt like the finale before finale (I'm assuming 50+% will die).
* We got an inside look at the future Mr. and Mrs. Baratheon (if they live).
* Brienne is finally a knight.
* Dany now knows the truth about Jon, and the first thing she thought about was the throne and not that she had been banging her nephew.
* Theon is welcomed back in Winterfell. Sansa may or may not be in love with him.
* Jamie and Tyrion. I mean...wow. Jamie has grown as a person. I'm going to be sad if/when these two die. I'm a big fan of Jamie these days. Not only did he have the balls to come back to
Winterfell...he stood by his decisions (except throwing Bran off the building). He supports the living and wants to serve Brienne in the war.
* The Hound and Arya cleared the air. They both appreciate each other...probably even like each other. Beric and Hound are former enemies and now pals working towards a common goal.
* Bran is all like "hey....Knight King really wants me guys."
* Sam gave his family sword to Jorah. Is this sword actually Lightbringer? https://gameofthrones.fandom.com/wiki/Lightbringer
* Jorah defends Tyrion's decision making to Dany. Dany accepts that and reinforces to Tyrion that she has his trust during battle planning.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 22, 2019, 08:15:54 AM
(https://i.redd.it/achxpqmd2qt21.jpg)
Post by: Cire on April 22, 2019, 09:09:27 AM
RIP Brienne, Tormond, Onion Knight etc.
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Post by: catastrophe on April 22, 2019, 09:57:23 PM
:lol:
(https://i.redd.it/achxpqmd2qt21.jpg)
My first thought was like, man it’s really awkward when you’ve been following this girl since she’s been 12 or whatever.
Post by: Spracne on April 22, 2019, 10:00:03 PM
Post by: catastrophe on April 22, 2019, 10:01:20 PM
hopefully half of these characters are dead by this time next sunday.
i didn't hate this episode, though. first time in about two seasons that i can say that.
Agree for the most part. I wouldn’t keep watching any show if I hated every episode for the last two seasons, but this was a good one. I still get this anxious feeling like, THERES TOO MUCH THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FOR YOU TO SAY THAY SAME THING ABOUT HOW YOU WANT TO DIE TYRION.
Post by: Spracne on April 22, 2019, 10:03:09 PM
"Can you believe it? All of us, here in WINTERFELL of all places. What a world . . . " x infinityhopefully half of these characters are dead by this time next sunday.
i didn't hate this episode, though. first time in about two seasons that i can say that.
Agree for the most part. I wouldn’t keep watching any show if I hated every episode for the last two seasons, but this was a good one. I still get this anxious feeling like, THERES TOO MUCH THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FOR YOU TO SAY THAY SAME THING ABOUT HOW YOU WANT TO DIE TYRION.
Post by: bucket on April 22, 2019, 10:13:14 PM
Post by: sys on April 22, 2019, 10:36:39 PM
I wouldn’t keep watching any show if I hated every episode for the last two seasons.
i've enjoyed hating the episodes, obviously.
Post by: nicname on April 23, 2019, 02:12:46 PM
:lol:
Post by: nicname on April 23, 2019, 02:20:00 PM
https://twitter.com/thepixelfactor/status/1118192048002228224?s=21
:lol:
Post by: star seed 7 on April 23, 2019, 02:35:53 PM
One of my favorites
(https://media.giphy.com/media/9uITvxD4oK0hpUOdfh/giphy.gif)
Post by: catastrophe on April 23, 2019, 03:36:38 PM
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 26, 2019, 11:57:44 AM
As Stannis would say, On to Season 6. :driving: (I think this may be the season where things start getting really goofy. Maybe that’s 7 can’t remember.)
Post by: catastrophe on April 26, 2019, 12:47:07 PM
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Post by: mocat on April 26, 2019, 01:40:12 PM
Ok, so Season 5 wasn’t as enjoyable as it’s predecessors. But after a really slow start, Jon’s not completely stupid visit to Hardhome and Stannis really just being his most amazing Stannis self kind of redeems it. Tyrion and Mormont liven up the Dany plotline a bit and we’re finally done with the stupid Harpy crap. Also starting to appreciate what great bad guys the Boltons are. And of course, the best cliffhanger of all the seasons.
As Stannis would say, On to Season 6. :driving: (I think this may be the season where things start getting really goofy. Maybe that’s 7 can’t remember.)
i underappreciated stannis i think. also watching the same actor completely upper deck the role of thomas jefferson in the john adams miniseries has made me miss him more
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 26, 2019, 03:26:11 PM
Ok, so Season 5 wasn’t as enjoyable as it’s predecessors. But after a really slow start, Jon’s not completely stupid visit to Hardhome and Stannis really just being his most amazing Stannis self kind of redeems it. Tyrion and Mormont liven up the Dany plotline a bit and we’re finally done with the stupid Harpy crap. Also starting to appreciate what great bad guys the Boltons are. And of course, the best cliffhanger of all the seasons.
As Stannis would say, On to Season 6. :driving: (I think this may be the season where things start getting really goofy. Maybe that’s 7 can’t remember.)
i underappreciated stannis i think. also watching the same actor completely upper deck the role of thomas jefferson in the john adams miniseries has made me miss him more
Had no idea that was the same dude. He really is one of the very best characters in the series. Also, aside from That One Really Terrible Thing he's def in the upper echelon of the show's honorable badasses. But then he did that thing and there you go...
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 26, 2019, 03:31:34 PM
Post by: mocat on April 26, 2019, 03:34:15 PM
Yeah, Stannis really shouldn't have killed Renly like he did.Would it have been prosecuted as fratricide or a hate crime?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 26, 2019, 03:42:18 PM
Yeah, Stannis really shouldn't have killed Renly like he did.Would it have been prosecuted as fratricide or a hate crime?
I don't think they have hate crimes in Westeros.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 26, 2019, 03:47:09 PM
Yeah, Stannis really shouldn't have killed Renly like he did.
That one doesn’t really seem too bad in retrospect. I mean, Renly was a grown man leading an army to contest his brother’s (superior) claim to the throne. I’m talking about the other horrible thing (which, to be fair, would now be legal in New York and Virginia).
Post by: mocat on April 26, 2019, 03:53:05 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 26, 2019, 05:09:08 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 26, 2019, 06:16:36 PM
1. Why the hell is Sam still fat? How’s that even possible that he has lost no weight after several years in the Watch?
2. Why didn’t they dye Dany’s eyebrows to match her wig?
Post by: star seed 7 on April 26, 2019, 08:02:15 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 26, 2019, 10:35:38 PM
Things I’ve never really noticed until the rewatch:
1. Why the hell is Sam still fat? How’s that even possible that he has lost no weight after several years in the Watch?
KSUW is British :surprised:
https://youtu.be/huYFJ0x0c8M
Post by: michigancat on April 28, 2019, 12:57:57 AM
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Post by: michigancat on April 28, 2019, 01:08:19 AM
Post by: michigancat on April 28, 2019, 01:10:01 AM
Post by: michigancat on April 28, 2019, 01:13:30 AM
this is like the worst show ever
Post by: michigancat on April 28, 2019, 01:18:33 AM
this is like a scene in a bad romcom starring ryan reynolds
Post by: michigancat on April 28, 2019, 01:22:09 AM
"so keep your queen warm"
^^^actual dialogue in game of thrones season 8^^^
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 28, 2019, 08:34:04 AM
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Post by: Kat Kid on April 28, 2019, 11:41:42 AM
Post by: michigancat on April 28, 2019, 11:45:51 AM
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Post by: catastrophe on April 28, 2019, 12:20:41 PM
Post by: Pete on April 28, 2019, 01:31:53 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 28, 2019, 01:51:19 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 28, 2019, 02:28:36 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 28, 2019, 03:26:12 PM
My friend is a jorah Stan and it disgusts me so muchGross
Post by: star seed 7 on April 28, 2019, 05:46:23 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 28, 2019, 05:56:42 PM
Post by: catastrophe on April 28, 2019, 05:59:48 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 28, 2019, 07:02:54 PM
Please tell me that’s yours
I'm not a young man anymore ww
Post by: mocat on April 28, 2019, 08:08:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/9BAORr9.jpg)
Oh my there's a lot to like here. This was well thought out
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 28, 2019, 09:58:38 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 28, 2019, 10:50:17 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 28, 2019, 11:08:44 PM
Post by: sys on April 28, 2019, 11:27:24 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 28, 2019, 11:28:02 PM
Post by: sys on April 28, 2019, 11:29:18 PM
Post by: sys on April 28, 2019, 11:30:23 PM
Watching now. Why are all the important people standing next to each other before the battle
it doesn't matter in the slightest.
Post by: michigancat on April 28, 2019, 11:34:58 PM
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Post by: michigancat on April 28, 2019, 11:40:12 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 29, 2019, 12:04:41 AM
Post by: michigancat on April 29, 2019, 12:11:24 AM
Post by: sys on April 29, 2019, 12:16:26 AM
https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1122687924766683138
Post by: michigancat on April 29, 2019, 12:22:09 AM
Post by: michigancat on April 29, 2019, 12:24:16 AM
Post by: michigancat on April 29, 2019, 12:26:49 AM
Post by: nicname on April 29, 2019, 01:02:17 AM
That said, not enough important people died. Having the Night King die without ever developing any depth beyond stock evil monster was a serious waste of time.
WTF, Bran? Srs.
Hound was a bit of a bitch.
Maybe worst battle strat ever by the humans.
Post by: Kat Kid on April 29, 2019, 06:07:21 AM
Post by: michigancat on April 29, 2019, 07:36:36 AM
I hated it so much. The entire zombie arc was a complete waste of time.All it did was wipe out the North for cersei
But man we got all those thrilling crypt scenes
Post by: star seed 7 on April 29, 2019, 08:27:58 AM
The dragon cgi is really bad.
This is kRusty trying too hard.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 29, 2019, 09:01:59 AM
So that's it? Years of "winter is coming" . . . the AoTD is a rolling ball of 100,000 ice diamond honed butcher knives one minute and the next they're icing down the beer? Come on bro
Post by: star seed 7 on April 29, 2019, 09:07:46 AM
Post by: pissclams on April 29, 2019, 09:14:39 AM
Post by: nicname on April 29, 2019, 09:49:36 AM
it was pretty good imo and the lack of major death and dismemberment leads me to believe that the battle of king's landing will feed us that highly desired sweet nectar
Oh yeah. That's been the real meat all along. I was just hoping the "Great War" and its main villain would have had a little more substance.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 29, 2019, 09:53:12 AM
it was pretty good imo and the lack of major death and dismemberment leads me to believe that the battle of king's landing will feed us that highly desired sweet nectar
Oh yeah. That's been the real meat all along. I was just hoping the "Great War" and its main villain would have had a little more substance.
Don't worry. All of the substance will be in the book that never gets finished.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 29, 2019, 10:03:09 AM
Post by: michigancat on April 29, 2019, 10:06:24 AM
Sounds like kRusty is the victim of 4K UHD TV's and the fact that they're wrecking the cinematic experience . . . but OMG, look at that clarity! I digress
No I think a shitty Roku plays a big part of it. But like the scenes where they're like leaning on the dragon in the windy dark was way too long and bad
Post by: Cire on April 29, 2019, 11:15:48 AM
Post by: Brock Landers on April 29, 2019, 11:52:09 AM
Post by: wetwillie on April 29, 2019, 11:55:37 AM
Post by: nicname on April 29, 2019, 12:53:38 PM
I was pretty pissed to see Jorah cruising back in after the Calvary charge. His death was way more dignified than deserved. I would have bet the farm on Grey Worm dying so that was a surprise.
Wait GW survived?
What about Missande basically calling Sansa a little bitch?
What about the hound acting like a coward/ maybe even throwing Baric under a figurative bus?
I legit thought Ser Brienne died at the very beginning of the initial infantry clash. Had it held true I thought it would have been a wickedly good turn after basically dedicating a lot of EP 2 to her.
Again, WTF Bran!?!? Though I do think some of his strategic planning was crucial, many WTF moments.
Also, the battle strat in general: Charging the hoard into the zombie hoard? Not immediately retreating the infantry when the first of the calvery survivors retreated after being pulverized?
Lastly, I’ve been big on the Sansa train for awhile, but she was pretty garbage/helpless last episode imo.
Post by: stunted on April 29, 2019, 03:15:20 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 29, 2019, 03:18:20 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 29, 2019, 03:24:56 PM
I was hoping the Night King would have a conversation with Bran.
Was very much expecting the beginning of a conversation to be the cliffhanger
Post by: michigancat on April 29, 2019, 03:31:53 PM
also, they probably should have just killed bran if that's all they wanted
Post by: catastrophe on April 29, 2019, 03:33:15 PM
Post by: catastrophe on April 29, 2019, 03:34:22 PM
don't read this until you're done watching, michigancat.
https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1122687924766683138
Definitely occurred to me too, but hey ice melts easier than stone.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 29, 2019, 09:31:09 PM
Post by: sys on April 29, 2019, 09:57:22 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 29, 2019, 10:09:50 PM
the episode was ridiculously stupid and the whole story with the white walkers came to a completely unsatisfying conclusion. however. i really liked it when arya killed the dude and i'm just so rough ridin' happy that all that magic/north crap will never pollute another episode.We wasted like three seasons on that bullshit
Post by: nicname on April 29, 2019, 10:35:54 PM
That’s some seriously tumultuous history.
Post by: mocat on April 29, 2019, 11:27:15 PM
Post by: Spracne on April 30, 2019, 12:32:05 AM
I thought sansa and Tyrion were about to romeo and juliet! Scary moment for me
Dude, same!
Post by: Spracne on April 30, 2019, 12:35:36 AM
Post by: jashon01 on April 30, 2019, 04:51:49 AM
Visit: https://www.flightsbird.com
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 30, 2019, 06:31:25 AM
Post by: Cire on April 30, 2019, 01:56:19 PM
it would have been interesting to understand more about his origin or motivation or something
also, they probably should have just killed bran if that's all they wanted
That was all stated explicitly
Post by: catastrophe on April 30, 2019, 03:34:53 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 30, 2019, 04:01:28 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 30, 2019, 04:07:45 PM
Post by: CHONGS on April 30, 2019, 05:40:31 PM
The only real disappointment of the episode was how the night king suddenly became a giant dumbass. There’s no reason he had to personally kill Bran, but for some reason he just strolls into a castle with tons of still alive fighters and is like, ok everyone just watch me. No need to kill anyone else Im sure they’ll just watch too.Maybe he DID need to personally do it.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 30, 2019, 07:31:06 PM
Then, rather than Ramsay using his archers to mow down Jon - that was the whole friggin point - he delays for dramatic effect. By the time he looses the arrows Jon is charging the Bolton army. Then the rest of Jon’s army follows. Ok fine. So fight fight stab stab. Ramsay’s actual doing the sensible thing of using his archers to decimate both sides because he’s got the numbers. So yay Ramsay for being smart.
Then there’s this weird phalanx bit where the Bolton army somehow manages to completely encircle Jon’s army. What in the blue eff was that? Apparently the shoot ran long and over budget and this was the way they rectified that.
Then, when all hope is lost, LF and Sansa show up to save the day. There is not one single plausible reason why Sansa wouldn’t have told Jon about having a whole other army at the ready - but it’s gotta be a surprise for the audience, so ugh. What a shitty stupid sequence.
Post by: puniraptor on April 30, 2019, 07:33:27 PM
Almost done with Season 6. Just suffered through the moronic Battle of the Bastards. Let’s walk through this. Ramsay cleverly uses Rickon as bait. So far, so good. Jon moronically rides right into range of the Bolton archers, even though the chances of Ramsay hitting a running Rickon at 50+ meters is minuscule. Then Ramsay does hit Rickon. Implausible, it whatever. I guess a world with dragons and zombies can also have mystically good archers. Fine.
Then, rather than Ramsay using his archers to mow down Jon - that was the whole friggin point - he delays for dramatic effect. By the time he looses the arrows Jon is charging the Bolton army. Then the rest of Jon’s army follows. Ok fine. So fight fight stab stab. Ramsay’s actual doing the sensible thing of using his archers to decimate both sides because he’s got the numbers. So yay Ramsay for being smart.
Then there’s this weird phalanx bit where the Bolton army somehow manages to completely encircle Jon’s army. What in the blue eff was that? Apparently the shoot ran long and over budget and this was the way they rectified that.
Then, when all hope is lost, LF and Sansa show up to save the day. There is not one single plausible reason why Sansa wouldn’t have told Jon about having a whole other army at the ready - but it’s gotta be a surprise for the audience, so ugh. What a shitty stupid sequence.
o man just you wait
Post by: catastrophe on April 30, 2019, 07:39:21 PM
Then there’s this weird phalanx bit where the Bolton army somehow manages to completely encircle Jon’s army. What in the blue eff was that? Apparently the shoot ran long and over budget and this was the way they rectified that.
Pretty sure this was an actual tactic used in actual battle.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 30, 2019, 07:43:31 PM
Post by: mocat on April 30, 2019, 07:53:20 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on April 30, 2019, 08:06:40 PM
Then there’s this weird phalanx bit where the Bolton army somehow manages to completely encircle Jon’s army. What in the blue eff was that? Apparently the shoot ran long and over budget and this was the way they rectified that.
Pretty sure this was an actual tactic used in actual battle.
Anyone that knows anything about ancient/medieval warfare (I know a very, very little) was super pissed about the battle in Sunday's episode.
Post by: Cire on May 01, 2019, 09:29:47 AM
Whatever.
Post by: Cire on May 01, 2019, 09:30:37 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 01, 2019, 09:32:30 AM
Post by: sys on May 01, 2019, 09:57:22 AM
Post by: _33 on May 01, 2019, 10:01:43 AM
Post by: catastrophe on May 01, 2019, 10:37:11 AM
Yeah, you don't fontal attack with a cavalry charge, you flank or charge during a route.
Whatever.
Well they all died pretty quick so that makes sense.
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 01, 2019, 10:42:51 AM
Post by: Cire on May 01, 2019, 10:52:10 AM
look, all of the very important characters go into battle wearing full armor but no helmet. these guys aren't military geniuses.
Every great swordsman in the history of television knows that wearing a helmet impairs your peripheral vision noob
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 01, 2019, 12:38:37 PM
Post by: mocat on May 01, 2019, 02:18:23 PM
I will say, the final episode of Season 6 pretty much makes all of 5 and 6 worth it. Cersei hits peak Cersei. Jon's parentage revealed. Just great. Ok. Onto Season 7. Almost there.Jon's parentage is the same ep as the septsplosion? Wow yeah that is quite an ep
Post by: Institutional Control on May 01, 2019, 04:07:51 PM
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Post by: catastrophe on May 01, 2019, 04:15:24 PM
Post by: sys on May 01, 2019, 04:39:28 PM
Post by: michigancat on May 01, 2019, 04:45:48 PM
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hadn't bran already woken up though?
Post by: mocat on May 01, 2019, 05:20:11 PM
Yeah he said "thank you" to theon lol(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190501/671405d1c988d22132e84bb780b9d4a0.jpg)
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hadn't bran already woken up though?
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who is the night king calling on his cell phone?
is he making dinner reservations for he and bran?
Post by: sys on May 01, 2019, 06:11:38 PM
Yeah he said "thank you" to theon lol
i'm willing to forgo that kind of heartfelt dialogue in the future episodes.
Post by: catastrophe on May 01, 2019, 07:10:15 PM
Post by: mocat on May 01, 2019, 08:01:34 PM
Ravens were already in motion.So she fell for like 20 minutes?
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 01, 2019, 08:06:23 PM
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who is the night king calling on his cell phone?
is he making dinner reservations for he and bran?
I IRL lol'd
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 01, 2019, 08:07:39 PM
Ravens were already in motion.So she fell for like 20 minutes?
What part of ravens already in motion doesn't make sense? They were given a task by the head raven(3 eyed) and they continued on until the job was done.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 01, 2019, 09:13:24 PM
Dany has her dumbass #metoo moment demanding Jon Snow bend the knee.
Ugh. It will get better. It will get better. I think we’re done with Dorne so at least there’s that. And Arya gets the Freys. And Dragonstone is getting some love - what a badass set piece.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 01, 2019, 10:36:16 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 01, 2019, 10:42:11 PM
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 02, 2019, 08:39:09 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on May 03, 2019, 08:25:14 AM
the episode was ridiculously stupid and the whole story with the white walkers came to a completely unsatisfying conclusion. however. i really liked it when arya killed the dude and i'm just so rough ridin' happy that all that magic/north crap will never pollute another episode.The fact that someone could have this sentiment just shows what a crap job the showrunners did on telling this story. EP1 Prolog, first scene: the others kill a bunch of dudes. This is the story arc, everything else is just a folly meant to be a distraction.
Post by: michigancat on May 03, 2019, 08:42:38 AM
Beyond the Wall is so, so bad. Like Star Wars prequels inexcusably awful this needs to be burned out of the canon bad. I’d forgotten just how illogical and pandering this whole shitshow of an episode was. Not just the A-Team up north, but the whole Arya/Sansa thing, too. :bang: Two of the top five stupidest plot lines rolled into one episode.:excited:
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 03, 2019, 01:19:36 PM
Starting Season 8 tonight. I've tried my best to avoid spoilers. Based on the rumblings, it sounds like the dumbassery continues. Arya kills the Night King in Epi 3? Are you rough ridin' kidding me?! Ok, fine, here we go.
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 03, 2019, 02:39:35 PM
Post by: michigancat on May 03, 2019, 03:37:18 PM
Idk why you kept watching if it’s so unbearable to watch
i don't know why you don't get it
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 03, 2019, 03:45:18 PM
Idk why you kept watching if it’s so unbearable to watch
Because the first 4 seasons were amazing. Seasons 5 and 6 were pretty good, and now I want to see how it ends. Doesn't mean I can't be disappointed by stupid stuff.
Post by: stunted on May 03, 2019, 05:57:34 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 03, 2019, 08:19:48 PM
I like that Jon and others ride past Arya. Feels real.
Very important to point out that Northfolk stare at black people. Racists.
Oh goooody, Sansa’s back to being a complete dumbass again. Worried about feeding the army that’s arrived to save her skin. But she’s so #metoostrong. You go, girl.
Never mind, Sansa’s back to being smart again. I guess this is gonna vary from scene to scene. To Tyrion re Cersei: “I used to think you were the most clever man alive.” Yeah, so did we, Sansa. Turns out Tyrion is a terrible judge of character and strategist. He’s basically good at saving his own skin and that’s about it.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 03, 2019, 08:35:15 PM
Man Cersei, you are a tramp. But you’ve got your #metoo fanbase dialed up to 11 right now.
Sending Bron to assassinate Tyrion and Jamie. That’s a fun idea. Should be good.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 03, 2019, 09:03:19 PM
The bit with Jon and Dany and the dragons was funny and well done.
The Hound, Gendry... Arya seems to have really good reunion scenes with everyone except for known dumbass Sansa. I’m seeing a pattern.
God Jon, just smack Sansa. Please.
Holy crap that meeting of Sam and Dany. :love: Also, Sam has lost weight. Years with the Watch, somehow the dude bulks up. A trip to the Citadel and the dude trims down.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 03, 2019, 09:27:58 PM
Tormund and Ed “I’ve always had blue eyes!” :lol: Damn feel bad for the Umber kid.
Jamie and Creepy Bran. One look says it all. Well, metaphorically. That’s the same look Bran gives everyone now.
Damn - aside for Our Lady of Perpetual Dumbassery, what an episode! Season 8 starts strong!
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 03, 2019, 10:36:31 PM
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 04, 2019, 12:42:37 AM
Once the castle is overrun, things get pretty great. Wow did not see the crypt coming. No Ned, tho.
Not sure how I feel about Arya and the Night King yet. I’m not pissed like I expected to be. But it doesn’t seem right. Great episode. Maybe one of the best, but that ending. I don’t know.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 04, 2019, 08:26:13 AM
All the possibilities of the WW and NK having some deeper significance were snuffed out. Why is he marching south? To kill people and the 3ER. Why’s he want to kill the 3ER? Because he wants “to snuff out our memories.” Okkkk. What’s the deal with the spirals? That just means “die.” Any connection with the Weirwoods? Nah, they’re just trees with creepy faces carved into them. How’s the 3ER going to play into all this? He’s gonna sit beneath a tree as bait and warg into some ravens for some reason. What role will Meera and Howland Reed play? Next question.
So while I really enjoyed much of the battle - after the horrific battle plan collapsed - it all feels like a huge lazy waste of storytelling. This doesn’t bode well for the books if GRRM couldn’t give these guys anything better than this.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 05, 2019, 10:58:02 PM
These clowns may not be able to plan a battle for crap, but they can arrange and construct a formation of funeral pyres with military precision.
Let’s party. But first, what is the chain and circle thing Stupid Sansa is always wearing? Is she trying to pull of a Maester look. Is this like the GOT equivalent of Rick Perry or Alexandria Occasional Cortex wearing glasses to look smart?
The Hound is so great. He should have been the one to kill the NK while we’re at it, because why the eff not at this point? Same for Tormund.
Would it really be so bad for Dany to be Jon’s queen and sit next to the iron throne? Why does she want it so badly anyway? Really Dany, at this point you’re just being a pill.
Drunk Breanne is more fun. Just ask Jamie. :woot:
Wait, first Sansa is pissed to be wasting all of Winterfell’s stores on armies - now she wants to keep them here? SMDH Stupid Sansa.
Wait, Bron is going to go on “the word” of two people on the other end of his crossbow? After already telling them that Cersei’s the losing side? That was a disappointingly dumb exchange.
Seems like a lot of final-ish farewells going on here. Tormund. Ghost. Sam. Surely not Jamie and Breanne?
Urien welcomes Dany back to Dragonstone. Did not see that coming. Neither did they. Dany’s got a serious problem now, and Jon’s looking like a better and better option. Not just to Varys.
Come on Jamie. Really? Really? Ugh.
Tyrion is back to being great again. So if you’re Missandeh, you jump and take your chances right?
Post by: michigancat on May 06, 2019, 12:31:51 AM
Post by: wetwillie on May 06, 2019, 06:54:18 AM
Jon's such a rough ridin' dumbass
So uh you have to swear not to tell anyone that I’m uh the last living Targaryen male. Ok thx bye.
Post by: nicname on May 06, 2019, 07:03:16 AM
Jon's such a rough ridin' dumbass
So uh you have to swear not to tell anyone that I’m uh the last living Targaryen male. Ok thx bye.
Jon has always been honest/honorable to a literal and exemplified fault. He learned that from Ned.
Post by: michigancat on May 06, 2019, 07:43:26 AM
pretty enjoyable reviewsI like that I'm pretty sure he doesn't understand #metoo
Post by: Institutional Control on May 06, 2019, 08:24:06 AM
pretty enjoyable reviewsI like that I'm pretty sure he doesn't understand #metoo
He has no clue.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 06, 2019, 08:31:36 AM
Post by: pissclams on May 06, 2019, 08:44:48 AM
Post by: nicname on May 06, 2019, 08:53:27 AM
I saw a pretty good fan theory out there last night that I can definitely get behind. I don’t remember all the details (and these theories always get too detailed anyway), but the main takeaway is in line with the beginning of my post.
Three key elements from the show:
1. In Tywin and Arya’s great conversations about the Targaryens’ initial takeover Tywin mentions the Targaryen guy and his dragons Arya tells him basically “It wasn’t just bro Targaryen, it was also his sisters.
2. It’s been repeated a few times, most notably to me recently at Winterfell between Arya and Sansa, “The lone wolf dies, the pack survives.”
Jon doesn’t realize I don’t think, but he’s a bit of a lone wolf at this point. Dany is for him, but she’s really for herself in a very one-dimensional way. The Starks are 100% for each other. And throughout the show Jon has REALLY sprung into action whenever a Stark is in danger.
3. I could be mistaken, but I believe it’s likely that Jon will make his way to Dragon Stone and as a true Targaryen king may likely somehow reanimate the stone Dragons there. I wouldn’t rule out Jon, Arya and Sansa all riding dragons together. This may not happen exactly but I think it is likely to play a role.
I do think Dany will either turn on Jon, the people, or just go mad.
How will it end up? I dunno.
It also goes along with the thinking that #FAMILY isn’t just who you are given, what you are born into, but what you make it. Tyrion could and also is a big part of this too as he’s proven to be a good human and kind of part of the family due to kinda marriage to Sansa. He also treats her with a ton of dignity.
Post by: pissclams on May 06, 2019, 09:14:57 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 06, 2019, 09:17:38 AM
Post by: nicname on May 06, 2019, 09:34:33 AM
why wouldn't cersai have one of those huge arrow guns shoot tyrion? she absolutely would have, if this were irl
Pretty sure that’s a war code thing for them. They always ride out and meet each other for diplomacy or whatever. Not saying Cersei wouldn’t break that rule too tho.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 06, 2019, 10:40:54 AM
pretty enjoyable reviewsI like that I'm pretty sure he doesn't understand #metoo
He has no clue.
There's a difference between what it was and what it's become. /pitout. You all know what I'm talking about.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 06, 2019, 10:59:56 AM
The whole story is about the Stark family. Everyone and everything else are secondary or tools to tell their story. This has been my belief for awhile and it has only strengthened over time.
You could be right with respect to the show. If the show runners decided to go in that direction, there's nothing to be done about that. But it's very clear from the books that the title of the series - a Song of Ice and Fire - is referring to two overarching themes: it's a story of the battle between the White Walkers (Others) and Living, and it's a story of Jon (and maybe Meera) - the product of Ice (Stark) and Fire (Targ). Seeing as how the books may never be finished (by GRRM), I was hoping the show would stay true to these themes, but it decided to put more emphasis on the Game of Thrones instead.
I don't know what the real significance of the White Walkers should have been, but it should have been something more than "ice zombies to be killed before a final confrontation with Cersei." What a waste. The Battle of Winterfell should have been a defeat for the Living while revealing the deeper significance of, and connection between, the NK and 3ER and the Weirwoods (something better than "he wants to wipe out our memories" - man that was stupid). The remnants of the Targ armies should have retreated to Kings Landing for the final three-way showdown between Cersei, Targ, and the NK. That would have been epic.
Post by: _33 on May 06, 2019, 11:13:27 AM
The whole story is about the Stark family. Everyone and everything else are secondary or tools to tell their story. This has been my belief for awhile and it has only strengthened over time.
You could be right with respect to the show. If the show runners decided to go in that direction, there's nothing to be done about that. But it's very clear from the books that the title of the series - a Song of Ice and Fire - is referring to two overarching themes: it's a story of the battle between the White Walkers (Others) and Living, and it's a story of Jon (and maybe Meera) - the product of Ice (Stark) and Fire (Targ). Seeing as how the books may never be finished (by GRRM), I was hoping the show would stay true to these themes, but it decided to put more emphasis on the Game of Thrones instead.
I don't know what the real significance of the White Walkers should have been, but it should have been something more than "ice zombies to be killed before a final confrontation with Cersei." What a waste. The Battle of Winterfell should have been a defeat for the Living while revealing the deeper significance of, and connection between, the NK and 3ER and the Weirwoods (something better than "he wants to wipe out our memories" - man that was stupid). The remnants of the Targ armies should have retreated to Kings Landing for the final three-way showdown between Cersei, Targ, and the NK. That would have been epic.
Yeah, why can't showrunners make everything in the show exactly the way I pretended it to be in my head? Idiot showrunners! What is the deal with these showrunners anyway?
Post by: star seed 7 on May 06, 2019, 11:28:17 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 06, 2019, 11:46:16 AM
Post by: stunted on May 06, 2019, 11:47:38 AM
Post by: Spracne on May 06, 2019, 11:49:22 AM
missandei yelling out dracarys was weird to meI took it as fairly lame foreshadowing.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 06, 2019, 12:01:30 PM
But everyone except known dumbasses should be disappointed by where the show went with the WW. The WW and 3ER were the central mysteries of the show - not just the books - and the show ultimately gave short shrift to both. The WW were ice zombies and the 3ER was a plot device to provide some necessary flashbacks. Okkkkk.
Post by: michigancat on May 06, 2019, 12:19:10 PM
pretty enjoyable reviewsI like that I'm pretty sure he doesn't understand #metoo
He has no clue.
There's a difference between what it was and what it's become. /pitout. You all know what I'm talking about.
I honestly have no idea
Post by: nicname on May 06, 2019, 12:24:29 PM
Add me to the list who thought Meera should have had a larger part in this show.
She got a paralyzed teenager from Winterfell to wherever the eff beyond the wall the former 3ER was and back. Seems a pretty large part imo.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on May 06, 2019, 03:18:00 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 06, 2019, 03:28:11 PM
why wouldn't cersai have one of those huge arrow guns shoot tyrion? she absolutely would have, if this were irl
Probably because Tyrion really hasn’t been worth crap the last few seasons and always ends up getting owned whenever they battle Cersei.
Post by: catastrophe on May 06, 2019, 03:31:01 PM
Post by: nicname on May 06, 2019, 03:44:14 PM
I could be mistaken, but I believe it’s likely that Jon will make his way to Dragon Stone and as a true Targaryen king may likely somehow reanimate the stone Dragons there. I wouldn’t rule out Jon, Arya and Sansa all riding dragons together. This may not happen exactly but I think it is likely to play a role.
Check out my new article in Time magazine.
http://time.com/5583761/game-of-thrones-tyrion-dragon/
Post by: michigancat on May 06, 2019, 07:03:16 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 06, 2019, 07:06:57 PM
Post by: nicname on May 06, 2019, 07:37:18 PM
has anyone talked about how Bronn could just waltz into a fortress and into a quiet room with the hand of the king while carrying a rough ridin' crossbow? and then they just let him waltz his happy ass back out and don't have like the army murder him or anything. And who has a rough ridin' Lord do their murdering for them?
I mean, half the people at Winterfell would’ve been like “Oh hey, ‘sup Bronn” when he walked in. And he’s a half-assed Lord anyway.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 06, 2019, 08:19:05 PM
has anyone talked about how Bronn could just waltz into a fortress and into a quiet room with the hand of the king while carrying a rough ridin' crossbow? and then they just let him waltz his happy ass back out and don't have like the army murder him or anything. And who has a rough ridin' Lord do their murdering for them?
I’m more troubled by the fact that he led off his negotiations by admitting that Cersei was probably the losing side. But yeah, your points, too. It was pretty dumb.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 06, 2019, 08:32:59 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 06, 2019, 08:33:36 PM
Post by: puniraptor on May 06, 2019, 09:23:11 PM
youre telling me that in 10000 years of continuous warfare (presumably including normal size crossbows) nobody thought of scaling up the crossbow to murk dragons and wreck entire fleets?
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 06, 2019, 10:24:01 PM
Post by: michigancat on May 06, 2019, 10:29:16 PM
This was a bad episode and the bronn thing was maybe 5th on the list of bad.Maybe third worst
Post by: star seed 7 on May 06, 2019, 10:32:25 PM
Tbh I can't even think of any episode that comes close to being this bad.
Plot points for the last two episodes have been leaked and it's taking all my strength to not go read them tho.
Post by: michigancat on May 06, 2019, 10:50:26 PM
It's ok to admit when something has gone down in quality. This is easily the worst episode of the series, imho. Still had some good moments, but what a rough ridin' mess.The A-team getting the zombie to send to cersei was the dumbest.
Tbh I can't even think of any episode that comes close to being this bad.
Plot points for the last two episodes have been leaked and it's taking all my strength to not go read them tho.
I thought the first scene when Dany made Gendry a lord was one of the best in the last three seasons
Post by: catastrophe on May 06, 2019, 11:07:19 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 06, 2019, 11:10:05 PM
Post by: sys on May 07, 2019, 12:39:31 AM
BUT — I definitely think it was stupid that they didn’t just unload those ballistas on the last living dragon that was just sitting right there like an idiot.
Post by: sys on May 07, 2019, 12:40:03 AM
This was a bad episode and the bronn thing was maybe 5th on the list of bad.
Post by: sys on May 07, 2019, 12:43:23 AM
This is easily the worst episode of the series, imho.
every episode for three years has been easily the worst.
Post by: stunted on May 07, 2019, 01:05:20 AM
Post by: waks on May 07, 2019, 02:01:57 AM
jaimie is way too good-looking for brienne. most unrealistic part of the show so far.Dude has only one hand. Probably affects his self-esteem a bit. Plus, he was nailing his sister before. Isn't not incest an upgrade from incest no matter who he was boinking before?
Post by: mocat on May 07, 2019, 06:39:41 AM
missandei yelling out dracarys was weird to meI took it as fairly lame foreshadowing.
What? She's telling dany to #bid
Post by: star seed 7 on May 07, 2019, 07:30:34 AM
This is easily the worst episode of the series, imho.
every episode for three years has been easily the worst.
Naw, I've been mostly fine with everything except the dorne adventure. Season 6 is great. Season 7 was a step back but enjoyable. I liked easing into season 8 and all the reunions. Got usually ends strong, so I still have hope but it's deteriorating quickly.
Post by: mocat on May 07, 2019, 10:45:44 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 07, 2019, 11:24:15 AM
the giant crossbows are GOTs version of the TLJ hyperspace kamikaze
youre telling me that in 10000 years of continuous warfare (presumably including normal size crossbows) nobody thought of scaling up the crossbow to murk dragons and wreck entire fleets?
I don't have any issue with them building a ballista to shoot at dragons. They are just way too accurate. It would be really hard to hit a flying dragon with a heavy bolt from a ship bobbing up and down on the water from more than 100 yards away.
Post by: CHONGS on May 07, 2019, 12:02:38 PM
Post by: dmartin on May 07, 2019, 01:07:55 PM
They're made by the same guy who made a zombie, I think they're some magic involved here.
Dragon seeking bolts!!
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 07, 2019, 03:47:11 PM
This is easily the worst episode of the series, imho.
every episode for three years has been easily the worst.
Naw, I've been mostly fine with everything except the dorne adventure. Season 6 is great. Season 7 was a step back but enjoyable. I liked easing into season 8 and all the reunions. Got usually ends strong, so I still have hope but it's deteriorating quickly.
I'd add a few other really dumb plot lines, but otherwise agree.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 07, 2019, 03:48:53 PM
jaimie is way too good-looking for brienne. most unrealistic part of the show so far.Dude has only one hand. Probably affects his self-esteem a bit. Plus, he was nailing his sister before. Isn't not incest an upgrade from incest no matter who he was boinking before?
Maybe Jamie loves and respects Breanne? That makes up for a lot of physical shortcomings, even for men. I actually liked this development.
Post by: mocat on May 07, 2019, 03:50:29 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 07, 2019, 03:53:46 PM
I’m also still a big fan of the entire Arya storyline, and I hope they don’t ruin it by having her kill Cersei.
Well, the Hound and Arya are headed to KL. We all know what they're setting up the Hound for. It seems like Arya's still got a major role to play, which is kinda annoying to me because Arya's whole super-ninja-assassin thing has worn a bit thin.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 07, 2019, 03:54:39 PM
it's Brienne (unless Breanne is a nickname joke that i don't get)
Nah - I just can't get all the spellings right. Apparently Bronn has the two ns, too.
Post by: mocat on May 07, 2019, 03:56:19 PM
Post by: Brock Landers on May 07, 2019, 04:12:50 PM
Post by: sys on May 07, 2019, 04:25:59 PM
I don't have any issue with them building a ballista to shoot at dragons. They are just way too accurate. It would be really hard to hit a flying dragon with a heavy bolt from a ship bobbing up and down on the water from more than 100 yards away.
it would be all but impossible. also, a person riding a dragon could see a fleet of rough ridin' ships at dragon-shooting range more easily than a person on a fleet of rough ridin' ships could see a dragon. and also, they show those rough ridin' overgrown arrows hitting the ships as if they were rough ridin' cannonballs. jfc, even actual cannon don't sink ships that easily.
Post by: sys on May 07, 2019, 04:27:49 PM
Arya's whole super-ninja-assassin thing has worn a bit thin.
it's the only thing the show hasn't mumped up beyond all belief.
Post by: CHONGS on May 07, 2019, 04:34:41 PM
Magic arrows thoI don't have any issue with them building a ballista to shoot at dragons. They are just way too accurate. It would be really hard to hit a flying dragon with a heavy bolt from a ship bobbing up and down on the water from more than 100 yards away.
it would be all but impossible. also, a person riding a dragon could see a fleet of rough ridin' ships at dragon-shooting range more easily than a person on a fleet of rough ridin' ships could see a dragon. and also, they show those rough ridin' overgrown arrows hitting the ships as if they were rough ridin' cannonballs. jfc, even actual cannon don't sink ships that easily.
Post by: sys on May 07, 2019, 05:23:32 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 07, 2019, 09:51:53 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 08, 2019, 09:43:49 AM
The sneak attack is just so amazingly stupid though...
Post by: 'taterblast on May 08, 2019, 10:10:46 AM
It's really clear that tyrion jumping off the ship and getting bonked with the mast was supposed to be the end of the episode. The next scene of the unsullied washing ashore and the next 20 minutes felt very much like the start of the next episode that was cut short and didn't fit the tone of the first 2/3rds.
interesting thought and makes sense. i thought it was the end of the epi while watching live.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on May 08, 2019, 10:13:25 AM
Liked the second watch better. It's really clear that tyrion jumping off the ship and getting bonked with the mast was supposed to be the end of the episode. The next scene of the unsullied washing ashore and the next 20 minutes felt very much like the start of the next episode that was cut short and didn't fit the tone of the first 2/3rds. So we ended up with a good 55 minute episode and then half of a very poorly edited episode mashed together and it's just doesn't flow correctly.
The sneak attack is just so amazingly stupid though...
I agree in that if the writers were like "okay bottom line we gotta get this down to 1 dragon" then the better way to do it would have been to have Rhaegal just go down against Viserion and the whites. Kind of dumb he survived all that and then just gets blasted out of the air from a considerable distance away by a bunch of grayjoy turds. Otherwise though I think they needed some way of giving Cersei a hostage that is close to Dany and I mean whats another scenario for that to happen that isn't equally as stupid?
Post by: star seed 7 on May 08, 2019, 10:29:45 AM
Post by: catastrophe on May 08, 2019, 10:41:22 AM
But it’s pretty clear they wanted to have the dragon going down to be like, hey look these things are vulnerable after all. Still, would have been 10,000x better if they did that by having one of the dragons killed during that pointless negotiation scene at the gate.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 08, 2019, 10:50:09 AM
Post by: michigancat on May 08, 2019, 12:27:24 PM
Not spending 15 seconds on Jon saying goodbye to ghost was just tragic. Same with not showing us Sansa and arya's reaction to learning about aegon.The wolves haven't done crap so who cares.
Sansa's Aegon reaction was going straight to Tyrion to tell on him, she's cold blooded now.
Post by: wetwillie on May 08, 2019, 12:41:37 PM
Not spending 15 seconds on Jon saying goodbye to ghost was just tragic. Same with not showing us Sansa and arya's reaction to learning about aegon.The wolves haven't done crap so who cares.
Sansa's Aegon reaction was going straight to Tyrion to tell on him, she's cold blooded now.
Her convo with the hound was equally icy, RIP little dove.
Post by: catastrophe on May 08, 2019, 03:20:24 PM
Post by: michigancat on May 08, 2019, 07:53:55 PM
Sansa's development would be as interesting as Arya's except Sansa still hasn't done anything worth a crap.She had littlefinger executed
:dunno:
Post by: Institutional Control on May 08, 2019, 08:52:34 PM
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 10, 2019, 11:21:50 AM
It also makes zero sense for him to lie to Brienne about his true plan. Except that the purpose of the lie/nonsensical action isn’t for Brienne - it’s to set up a surprise for us. This is something the writers have been doing a lot lately. Other examples are the Sansa/Arya feud orchestrated by LF, and Sansa’s decision to keep her Vale army a secret from Jon.
So Jamie’s headed back to KL to do exactly what he did before with the Mad King (maybe he’ll kill Qyburn, too). How poetic.
Post by: 'taterblast on May 10, 2019, 11:45:06 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 10, 2019, 11:46:08 AM
Post by: wetwillie on May 10, 2019, 11:51:12 AM
Post by: Spracne on May 11, 2019, 07:14:28 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 12, 2019, 09:28:10 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 12, 2019, 10:10:10 PM
Post by: sys on May 12, 2019, 10:31:19 PM
arya killing dany will be fun, i hope.
Post by: nicname on May 12, 2019, 11:40:12 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 13, 2019, 07:12:09 AM
Now we have one episode left to watch Arya kill Dany and wrap up the rest of this show. Or, we have 1 episode left that shows Bran waking up North of the wall after foreshadowing these events. He sends Raven to have her killed before she sails to Westeros. In parallel, he kills Sam so Gilly’s baby is donated to the White Walkers and they never march towards the wall.
Post by: stunted on May 13, 2019, 08:31:29 AM
Post by: mocat on May 13, 2019, 08:44:03 AM
Post by: Cire on May 13, 2019, 09:27:46 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on May 13, 2019, 09:32:58 AM
Post by: sys on May 13, 2019, 10:43:27 AM
you can lay any blame for plot missteps at the feet of grrm
nah.
Post by: mocat on May 13, 2019, 10:50:29 AM
you can lay any blame for plot missteps at the feet of grrm
nah.
either he told the writers how the books end (and it's this garbage) or he didn't tell them. if he didn't tell them, it's still his fault because he hasn't published a book since 2011.
don't blame the writer of Troy (2004) for just being himself.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 13, 2019, 10:56:06 AM
you can lay any blame for plot missteps at the feet of grrm
nah.
Agreed, GRRM is not the problem. He provided more than enough excellent source material to lead to any number of satisfying conclusions. It's more like the show runners completely forgot all the masterful work they did on season 1-4, and to a lesser extend 5-6, setting up all these great characters and story lines.
Seasons 7 and 8 are like a completely different show. This isn't a matter of being disappointed with how one character or another ends up - it's a matter of basically putting seasons 1-6 into the shredder. The White Walkers? Turns out not such a serious problem. Jon Snow? Turns out he won't really play any significant role with defeating the White Walkers or Cersei. Jamie Lannister? Turns out after a remarkable arc of character development, instead of completing his redemption he'll return to be buried with Cersei and do nothing of significance. Dany suddenly decides to napalm innocent men, women, and children even though it was completely unnecessary? So, like, she just suddenly goes mad? First Arya takes on far greater significance than she deserves in the White Walker plot line, and then she has absolutely zero significance in the Cersei plot line?! What in the seven hells is this crap?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 13, 2019, 10:57:26 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 13, 2019, 11:01:50 AM
OK.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 13, 2019, 11:03:03 AM
On Dany . . .you can lay any blame for plot missteps at the feet of grrm
nah.
Agreed, GRRM is not the problem. He provided more than enough excellent source material to lead to any number of satisfying conclusions. It's more like the show runners completely forgot all the masterful work they did on season 1-4, and to a lesser extend 5-6, setting up all these great characters and story lines.
Seasons 7 and 8 are like a completely different show. This isn't a matter of being disappointed with how one character or another ends up - it's a matter of basically putting seasons 1-6 into the shredder. The White Walkers? Turns out not such a serious problem. Jon Snow? Turns out he won't really play any significant role with defeating the White Walkers or Cersei. Jamie Lannister? Turns out after a remarkable arc of character development, instead of completing his redemption he'll return to be buried with Cersei and do nothing of significance. Dany suddenly decides to napalm innocent men, women, and children even though it was completely unnecessary? So, like, she just suddenly goes mad? First Arya takes on far greater significance than she deserves in the White Walker plot line, and then she has absolutely zero significance in the Cersei plot line?! What in the seven hells is this crap?
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The Wildfire was exploding last night because her father put it all around under the city, that’s why Jaime killed him.
It also makes perfect sense that Jaime and Cersi die together because they started the whole mess. But are they really dead.
But I do agree these wrap ups are very disappointing.
Post by: mocat on May 13, 2019, 11:05:01 AM
you can lay any blame for plot missteps at the feet of grrm
nah.
Agreed, GRRM is not the problem. He provided more than enough excellent source material to lead to any number of satisfying conclusions. It's more like the show runners completely forgot all the masterful work they did on season 1-4, and to a lesser extend 5-6, setting up all these great characters and story lines.
Seasons 7 and 8 are like a completely different show. This isn't a matter of being disappointed with how one character or another ends up - it's a matter of basically putting seasons 1-6 into the shredder. The White Walkers? Turns out not such a serious problem. Jon Snow? Turns out he won't really play any significant role with defeating the White Walkers or Cersei. Jamie Lannister? Turns out after a remarkable arc of character development, instead of completing his redemption he'll return to be buried with Cersei and do nothing of significance. Dany suddenly decides to napalm innocent men, women, and children even though it was completely unnecessary? So, like, she just suddenly goes mad? First Arya takes on far greater significance than she deserves in the White Walker plot line, and then she has absolutely zero significance in the Cersei plot line?! What in the seven hells is this crap?
it seems like a different show because the writers are out on their own now. and i blame grrm for that because he hasn't finished his books. these guys are really good at running a show, but asking them to satisfyingly end an enormously epic fantasy book series that they didn't even start was a mistake.
Post by: sys on May 13, 2019, 11:09:06 AM
you can lay any blame for plot missteps at the feet of grrm
nah.
either he told the writers how the books end (and it's this garbage) or he didn't tell them. if he didn't tell them, it's still his fault because he hasn't published a book since 2011.
don't blame the writer of Troy (2004) for just being himself.
it's not the plot that's the problem, it's the writing.
Post by: sys on May 13, 2019, 11:13:27 AM
GRRM is not the problem. He provided more than enough excellent source material to lead to any number of satisfying conclusions. It's more like the show runners completely forgot all the masterful work they did on season 1-4, and to a lesser extend 5-6, setting up all these great characters and story lines.
we have more than enough evidence to now conclude that the show runners are completely talentless, absolute hacks. whatever virtues the earlier seasons had can only be attributed to a story already well-developed enough that they couldn't eff it up (and probably also grrm micromanaging the scripts to keep them from going to crap).
Post by: Cire on May 13, 2019, 11:15:33 AM
Jon literally never did anything great in his life. He was just supposed to be a wall guy that had a soft heart and it got him murdered. He was never some hero in waiting.
People are trying to make Dany/John/Jamie into people that they aren't.
Post by: Brock Landers on May 13, 2019, 11:32:50 AM
Jaime should not have been killed by some B team scrub like Euron who looked to be the only survivor of the Iron Fleet's whupping and who also JUST HAPPENED to be stumbling ashore at the exact moment Jaime was walking by. Please.
I'm no dragon expert but you'd think there is some limit to how much fire a dragon can produce in a short time. Apparently not, guess Drogon was well hydrated or whatever dragons do to crank out unlimited fire.
So the fleet of ships with scorpions went from marksman level to Stormtrooper level of accuracy overnight.
I'm also puzzled about people flipping out over Dany's heelturn. She's had absolutely no problem using her dragon to torch people and things previously and now she feels like she's been betrayed by almost everyone around her.
Post by: Cire on May 13, 2019, 11:46:54 AM
Agree on Euron, Jamie being lame.
Also, wanted cersei to die a slow horrible death but I guess sitting up there watching everything she worked for get torched was probably painful to her. Kind of like hitler's last hours.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 13, 2019, 11:54:29 AM
Post by: sys on May 13, 2019, 12:08:24 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 13, 2019, 12:23:27 PM
Post by: sys on May 13, 2019, 12:32:11 PM
Reagal should have died in this battle.
that would have been much better.
Post by: AppleJack on May 13, 2019, 12:41:35 PM
Post by: pissclams on May 13, 2019, 12:48:31 PM
Post by: Cire on May 13, 2019, 01:04:31 PM
She has never targeted the innocent, and that is why fans are losing their crap. Kill all the soldiers sure, but not the innocent women and children.
Right but she fundamentally changed with Jon's betrayal and the betrayal or death of her ENTIRE inner circle.
She was betrayed because they didn't fear her.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 13, 2019, 01:25:34 PM
i have a feeling that Game of Thrones is going to end exactly like The Hills did
No spoilers plz
Post by: stunted on May 13, 2019, 01:46:58 PM
it was just stupid, clumsy and utterly lacking in subtly like everything the showrunners do. they had to behead her friend like the day previous (for absolutely no reason), because otherwise how would viewers know she was all emotional-like. and then they spent a total of like three minutes on her devolution into kinda-sorta burn-them-all targaryen madness. and then they had to make her choice so obvious as to slap the viewer in the face. like they could have started her off flaming up a bunch on non-surrendering soldiers and then she could just keep going in the firelust of a targaryen at war. or they could have had her fly off to flame at cersei despite the surrender and then things could get out of hand or whatever. but, because they're rough ridin' hacks, they just have her sit her dragon down for a spell and then with no provocation or motive whatsoever, start off on the nearest women and children. they're just so bad at writing.
it's just silly to have dany kill half a million people. terrible writing and all that. enjoyed the crap out of it anyways.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 13, 2019, 01:56:20 PM
She has never targeted the innocent, and that is why fans are losing their crap. Kill all the soldiers sure, but not the innocent women and children.
Exactly. Comparing what Dany did to KL to her other uses of fire and fury is laughable. At most, the civilians were collateral damage. And now all of sudden she is deliberately targeting them? The sudden break is even less plausible than Anakin’s “I’m sad my mom died so now I’m gonna murder children” thing. Stupid, stupid, stupid. And I don’t even like Dany, but for goodness sakes write something for her that doesn’t completely reinvent her character from one episode to the next!
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 13, 2019, 01:58:56 PM
GRRM is not the problem. He provided more than enough excellent source material to lead to any number of satisfying conclusions. It's more like the show runners completely forgot all the masterful work they did on season 1-4, and to a lesser extend 5-6, setting up all these great characters and story lines.
we have more than enough evidence to now conclude that the show runners are completely talentless, absolute hacks. whatever virtues the earlier seasons had can only be attributed to a story already well-developed enough that they couldn't eff it up (and probably also grrm micromanaging the scripts to keep them from going to crap).
I don’t care how good the source material is, the writers did a phenomenal job adapting it to the first 4 seasons. It takes real skill to do that. Which is why this latest bullshit is so unexpected.
Post by: wetwillie on May 13, 2019, 03:42:56 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 13, 2019, 04:12:52 PM
I think the show deserves some criticism for the last two seasons but it was inevitable to experience a drop off. Don’t really understand how you could watch 7 and not expect 8 to be a letdown.
I did, but didn't expect it to be this bad.
Post by: OK_Cat on May 13, 2019, 08:13:36 PM
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Post by: Cire on May 13, 2019, 08:48:24 PM
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Post by: DaBigTrain on May 13, 2019, 09:27:17 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 13, 2019, 09:46:43 PM
Reagal should have died in this battle.
that would have been much better.
YES
Post by: catastrophe on May 13, 2019, 09:54:56 PM
Why have dragon #2 die by supposed ship sneak attack when dragon #3 can single handedly lay waste to the entire fleet + city on high alert?
Why spend another 20 minutes following Arya around again to be like hey maybe she actually dies in this sequence?
Why have Euron stab Jamie through the torso twice if you’re gonna have him immediately walk a mile to casually say high to Cersei after?
Post by: catastrophe on May 13, 2019, 10:00:07 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 13, 2019, 10:12:53 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 13, 2019, 10:13:23 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 13, 2019, 10:14:41 PM
Post by: Spracne on May 13, 2019, 10:18:08 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 13, 2019, 10:25:11 PM
Wow. Triggered.
You can kindly, go thrust yourself on a blade. (In any other thread it would be a “eff, you”, HOWEVER, that’s not how it’s done in the thread. So please do me and everyone here a favor).
Post by: Spracne on May 13, 2019, 10:29:01 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 13, 2019, 10:34:57 PM
Post by: Spracne on May 13, 2019, 10:39:56 PM
It’s a great show, in a fantasy world. Just enjoy it, Jesus rough ridin' Christ.Some GRANDE loco motives, it seems, pendejo . . .
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 13, 2019, 10:42:26 PM
It’s a great show, in a fantasy world. Just enjoy it, Jesus rough ridin' Christ.Some HUGE loco motives, it seems, pendejo . . .
Your pun game must be compensating for a MASSIVE deficiency IRL. It’s the only thing you have.
Post by: Spracne on May 13, 2019, 10:47:31 PM
Well now you've gone off the rails :( . . .It’s a great show, in a fantasy world. Just enjoy it, Jesus rough ridin' Christ.Some HUGE loco motives, it seems, pendejo . . .
Your pun game must be compensating for a MASSIVE deficiency IRL. It’s the only thing you have.
Post by: michigancat on May 13, 2019, 11:51:14 PM
Post by: puniraptor on May 14, 2019, 12:10:09 AM
Quote
Why have dragon #2 die by supposed ship sneak attack when dragon #3 can single handedly lay waste to the entire fleet + city on high alert?
my initial response to this was like, that first kill was a total (if implausible) suprise, and now that the dragon is ready they are really no contest and never were.
then i remembered that the scorpion was already revealed at the wagon train attack and they should totally have been ready and expecting.
Post by: puniraptor on May 14, 2019, 12:17:20 AM
Post by: puniraptor on May 14, 2019, 12:21:39 AM
I only really take exception to
-arya just being there to give us a name character POV of the razing
-euron lol
-jamie/cersei final moments (too lame, too nice)
-the zombie makeup on the mountain
Post by: puniraptor on May 14, 2019, 12:22:57 AM
Post by: michigancat on May 14, 2019, 01:12:54 AM
Post by: michigancat on May 14, 2019, 01:23:26 AM
Post by: 8manpick on May 14, 2019, 08:47:07 AM
I will say my favorite dumb guy response to people critiquing the decline in the show is some version of "there's friggin dragons and magic man, and you're complaining about sloppy writing and rushed plotlines? Sheesh"
It's a FANTASY show. What don't you get? :blindfold:
Post by: michigancat on May 14, 2019, 09:23:17 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 14, 2019, 10:51:08 AM
I will say my favorite dumb guy response to people critiquing the decline in the show is some version of "there's friggin dragons and magic man, and you're complaining about sloppy writing and rushed plotlines? Sheesh"
My second favorite dumbass response is “stop nitpicking and just enjoy it!” Says every known dumbass who evidently had no appreciation for the storylines of Season 1-6.
Post by: Spracne on May 14, 2019, 10:53:06 AM
But I also realize that at this point, bitching about the show has become a significant part of the entertainment for many people, so I don't mind. We're all just here to be entertained.
Post by: michigancat on May 14, 2019, 10:54:35 AM
Eh, I mean at this point I'm fully vested and along for the ride. Que sera, sera, u digg?Yes
But I also realize that at this point, bitching about the show has become a significant part of the entertainment for many people, so I don't mind. We're all just here to be entertained.
Post by: Brock Landers on May 14, 2019, 11:20:02 AM
Post by: stunted on May 14, 2019, 11:32:25 AM
Post by: mocat on May 14, 2019, 11:33:45 AM
the "shitty" seasons would be pretty great tv if it was independent of the first 4 seasons.
imagine waking up from a coma of 10 years and being like holy f***, this is tv now?
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 14, 2019, 12:05:44 PM
I came here to chew bubble gum and bitch about Game of Thrones. And I'm all out of bubble gum.
:curse:
Post by: star seed 7 on May 14, 2019, 01:53:12 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 14, 2019, 03:12:44 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 14, 2019, 08:47:10 PM
Cersei Lannister: After 6 seasons of Cersei being a generally despicable character doing generally interesting things, even some smart things such as getting the jump on Ned and obliterating her enemies in the Sept, in Seasons 7-8 Cersei does.... almost nothing. She does do the smart thing of betraying her enemies in The Great War, but otherwise when she’s not banging Ueron Greyjoy she spends most of her screentime smirking at a balcony before ultimately creeping down to the basement of the Red Keep to be buried. Huh.
Jamie Lannister: After 6 amazing seasons wherein we watched Jamie transform from a despicable monster who literally pushed a kid out the window and murdered his cousin to get back to sleeping with his twin sister, to a conflicted but honorable man who aided Brienne in helping the Stark girls, Seasons 7-8 see him abandon Cersei to do the right thing, do right by Brienne, only to.... abandon Brienne and rather than return to KL to stop Cersei he tries to escape with her only to be buried under the Red Keep. Huh.
Tyrion Lannister: After 6 seasons of Tyrion generally being the best character in the show, Seasons 7-8 relegate Jim to a supporting character and he generally ranges from sucky to boring.
Dany Targ: After 6 seasons where she rises from being sold to a warlord to amassing an army and three dragons to cross the narrow sea to reclaim her throne.... in Seasons 7-8 she makes one stupid decision after another and then suddenly goes crazy and firebombs the civilians of KL for no reason whatsoever. Huh.
Jon Snow: After 6 seasons where he rises from a bastard son of Ned Stark to Lord Commander to King in the North, where the dude is literally killed and resurrected.... in Seasons 7-8 it’s finally revealed that he is the Song of Ice and Fire - the trueborn son of Targ and Stark and rightful heir to the Iron Throne. And then he basically does jack crap against the Night King, jack crap in the battle of KL, and generally sulks and claims allegiance to Dany.
Sansa Stark: She gets way too much screentime being a dumbass in Season 7-8, but to be fair that was par for the course over the entire series.
Arya Stark: Spends the first six seasons honing her craft and nursing her grudge against Cersei and then.... in Season 7-8 she jumps out of nowhere to kill the Night King and then does absolutely nothing against Cersei.
Bran Stark: Become the 3ER who can see anything in the past and control other people and animals and has some connection to the Night King and then... in Seasons 7-8 he provides some flashbacks to further the plot and then does absolutely nothing against the Night King except sit under a tree as bait because the Night King “wants to snuff out our memories.”
White Walkers: Really, I don’t need to go into this again.
Hey - they at least got Cleganbowl right!
Post by: mocat on May 14, 2019, 09:26:13 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 14, 2019, 09:40:01 PM
Post by: dmartin on May 15, 2019, 08:57:45 AM
I really don’t have any issues with the Jaime/Cersei story. One of the only consistent plots throughout the entire series. The Euron battle was ridiculous but I did enjoy the “I’m the man who killed Jamie Lanister” line.
Unfortunately for Euron, nobody will ever know he even fought with Jamie Lanister. They'll find his dead body by the beach, and Jamie was crushed by debris, so both lose.
Post by: catastrophe on May 15, 2019, 09:05:33 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 16, 2019, 11:37:26 AM
https://www.change.org/p/hbo-remake-game-of-thrones-season-8-with-competent-writers (https://www.change.org/p/hbo-remake-game-of-thrones-season-8-with-competent-writers)
Post by: stunted on May 16, 2019, 12:24:02 PM
Post by: wetwillie on May 16, 2019, 01:22:01 PM
I'm really looking forward to see how Dany is going to explain herself.
Not sure she’s going to live long enough to have a chance
Post by: stunted on May 16, 2019, 02:45:10 PM
Post by: TheHamburglar on May 19, 2019, 10:13:08 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 19, 2019, 10:44:01 PM
Post by: wetwillie on May 19, 2019, 11:03:00 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 19, 2019, 11:22:21 PM
Post by: TheHamburglar on May 19, 2019, 11:34:36 PM
Post by: sys on May 19, 2019, 11:37:49 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 20, 2019, 08:54:01 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/20/tv-shows/game-of-thrones-water-bottle-scli-intl/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/20/tv-shows/game-of-thrones-water-bottle-scli-intl/index.html)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 20, 2019, 08:56:32 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 20, 2019, 08:58:47 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 20, 2019, 09:02:31 AM
Post by: wetwillie on May 20, 2019, 09:08:15 AM
Post by: pissclams on May 20, 2019, 09:28:05 AM
when viewed in its entirety, i'd give the show a 7/10
time to move on to higher quality writing such as is found on the bachelorette and temptation island
Post by: catastrophe on May 20, 2019, 09:36:18 AM
I’m also still confused on why they felt so rushed to end such a cash cow for HBO.
Post by: Kat Kid on May 20, 2019, 09:36:24 AM
Rome getting cancelled? YOU'RE CANCELLED HBO!
Post by: Brock Landers on May 20, 2019, 09:39:36 AM
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 20, 2019, 09:51:52 AM
Post by: TheHamburglar on May 20, 2019, 09:53:43 AM
However, watching the show that fast, spending so much time dragging out Ramsay Bolton, Joffrey & Arya in Bravos then rushing the end is rough.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 20, 2019, 09:54:49 AM
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Post by: catastrophe on May 20, 2019, 09:59:26 AM
However, watching the show that fast, spending so much time dragging out Ramsay Bolton, Joffrey & Arya in Bravos then rushing the end is rough.
Yes this is worth noting when judging the merit of the writers. Also I think I read Ramsey is not even in the books? Pretty messed up.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 20, 2019, 10:01:40 AM
However, watching the show that fast, spending so much time dragging out Ramsay Bolton, Joffrey & Arya in Bravos then rushing the end is rough.
Yes this is worth noting when judging the merit of the writers. Also I think I read Ramsey is not even in the books? Pretty messed up.
Oh, he's in the books.
Post by: catastrophe on May 20, 2019, 10:06:15 AM
Post by: sys on May 20, 2019, 10:57:15 AM
Rome getting cancelled? YOU'RE CANCELLED HBO!
the original sin.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 20, 2019, 10:59:34 AM
Must have gotten that mixed up with someone else. But I guess the books did not actually depict the torture of Theon like the show did.
They described them after the fact. It wasn't as graphic in the books.
Post by: Kat Kid on May 20, 2019, 11:28:04 AM
Rome getting cancelled? YOU'RE CANCELLED HBO!
the original sin.
Many people don't talk about it, but it was/is really terrible.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 20, 2019, 11:29:23 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on May 20, 2019, 11:45:37 AM
but aside from everything about being so incredibly unbelievably rushed, it was good.
Post by: _33 on May 20, 2019, 12:03:37 PM
Post by: michigancat on May 20, 2019, 12:11:20 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 20, 2019, 12:12:38 PM
Dany was resolved in the best way possible, all things considered. Brienne's bit with the book was touching and another good resolution. The final small council meeting was a perfect farewell to those characters.
I'm even coming around on Jamie and Cersei. I wanted something more dramatic, but there was a poetic justice in Cersei's end. And Jamie's end makes his arc all the more tragic and compelling. Even as he evolved to see Cersei for who she really was, he couldn't stop loving her and trying to protect her. That's why he rode north - not to abandon her but to protect her - and that's why he returned south.
Even Sansa and Arya were not completely insufferable in the finale.
Agree this all would have come together a bit better, especially Dany's abrupt transformation and the final committee, had it all not been so rushed.
Questions...
Who wrote the book Sam presents at the end, and how the hell could Tyrion not even be mentioned? I get that it's supposed to be funny, but the dude was Jeoffrey's hand, then convicted of murdering Jeoffrey, then murdered Tywin Lannister, then became the Mad Queen's hand... how is it even possible that he wouldn't be mentioned?
What are Jon and Tormund doing at the very end? Going AWOL with the Free Folk, or just resettling them? And is that green sprig in the snow plus the FF headed north supposed to mean that spring has arrived? It doesn't look like Jon's aged a day so I guess it wasn't a long winter after all?
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 20, 2019, 12:13:46 PM
I still don't get the point of the night king
Apparently neither do the writers. He was the Ice Zombie Level Boss. Arya leveled up and killed him with super jump and super stealth powers.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 20, 2019, 12:21:18 PM
Post by: TheHamburglar on May 20, 2019, 12:59:12 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on May 20, 2019, 01:09:08 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 20, 2019, 02:27:19 PM
I don't get why everyone thinks Dany turned so fast. Her default has been to be brutal since the beginning, but often talked out of it. I pretty successfully muted everything related to the show & unfollowed a lot of people before the season started. It wasn't until today I see a bunch of people mad about her "twist". It seemed like what she's always wanted to do and became more independent to do what she wanted as the series moved on. When her interpreter said the command to burn just before getting behead I knew she was burning everything down and tearing down the houses.
I liked that they actually had a long discussion about this very topic between Jon and Tyrion in the final epi. But I’m dubious of the argument that “she’s killed people before so napalming an entire of city of civilians after they had already surrendered is not a surprise.” It would have made more sense to provide at least a little more foundation for her flip, and it would have been so easy to do. Like maybe the city surrenders and then somebody kills her second dragon (instead of the stupid Euron bit).
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 20, 2019, 05:21:42 PM
Cersi and Jaime ending was nonsensical, the Lannisters in exile, another great story line.
Yeah, I know it can't go on forever.
Post by: mocat on May 20, 2019, 09:09:22 PM
Post by: TheHamburglar on May 21, 2019, 10:50:14 AM
I don't get why everyone thinks Dany turned so fast. Her default has been to be brutal since the beginning, but often talked out of it. I pretty successfully muted everything related to the show & unfollowed a lot of people before the season started. It wasn't until today I see a bunch of people mad about her "twist". It seemed like what she's always wanted to do and became more independent to do what she wanted as the series moved on. When her interpreter said the command to burn just before getting behead I knew she was burning everything down and tearing down the houses.
I liked that they actually had a long discussion about this very topic between Jon and Tyrion in the final epi. But I’m dubious of the argument that “she’s killed people before so napalming an entire of city of civilians after they had already surrendered is not a surprise.” It would have made more sense to provide at least a little more foundation for her flip, and it would have been so easy to do. Like maybe the city surrenders and then somebody kills her second dragon (instead of the stupid Euron bit).
I think the beheading Missandie and Missandie saying "dracarys" as her last words was the tipping point.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 21, 2019, 10:58:45 AM
That being said, it was fine. My moment that nobody talks about that made me sad is when they didn't put Tyrian in that book. :cry:
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 21, 2019, 12:25:55 PM
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holy crap wow :lol:
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This is really good
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holy crap wow :lol:
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This is really good
It's the best one.
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