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Title: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: madman on April 05, 2010, 02:12:16 AM
Would you agree or disagree that the American public is tired of not being falsly represented by the House and Senate? I think that both sides of the isle believe it is time to get some fresh faces in Washington that represent the will of their constituents.
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2010, 07:41:50 AM
Isn't this what voting is for?
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: michigancat on April 05, 2010, 08:49:03 AM
both sides of the isle

heh
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: OK_Cat on April 05, 2010, 09:16:36 AM
Would you agree or disagree that the American public is tired of not being falsly represented by the House and Senate? I think that both sides of the isle believe it is time to get some fresh faces in Washington that represent the will of their constituents.

The American people voted these particular people in, like S.D. said. 

Build a bridge and get over it, bro.
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: Jeffy on April 05, 2010, 09:31:09 AM
both sides of the isle

heh

Agreed.  If we don't make changes to both sides of the isle, it will likely tip over or capsize.
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 05, 2010, 09:46:50 AM
both sides of the isle

heh

Agreed.  If we don't make changes to both sides of the isle, it will likely tip over or capsize.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: madman on April 05, 2010, 03:10:21 PM
Would you agree or disagree that the American public is tired of not being falsly represented by the House and Senate? I think that both sides of the isle believe it is time to get some fresh faces in Washington that represent the will of their constituents.

The American people voted these particular people in, like S.D. said. 

Build a bridge and get over it, bro.

I agree that we vote for that very reason, but their job is still to represent the people. It doesnt seem like they remember there is a reason they are in office... representation
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2010, 03:16:27 PM
Would you agree or disagree that the American public is tired of not being falsly represented by the House and Senate? I think that both sides of the isle believe it is time to get some fresh faces in Washington that represent the will of their constituents.

The American people voted these particular people in, like S.D. said. 

Build a bridge and get over it, bro.

I agree that we vote for that very reason, but their job is still to represent the people. It doesnt seem like they remember there is a reason they are in office... representation

I think they're all doing a bang up job.  All of'em. 
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: felix rex on April 05, 2010, 03:49:32 PM
Generally, I like my Senators the way I like my college coaches. Sleazy as possible without getting busted and surrounded by criminals who are awesome at their jobs. Historically, this has been proven the most successful model for most businesses, governments and churches.
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: madman on April 05, 2010, 04:04:43 PM
Ramming a bill through congress with very little public support is a wonderful representation of a bang-up job. I'm just saying :dunno:
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: felix rex on April 05, 2010, 06:10:34 PM
Ramming a bill through congress with very little public support is a wonderful representation of a bang-up job. I'm just saying :dunno:

If you think about it, it WAS some pretty impressive legislating, given the odds. Everyone was all "IT'S IMPOSSIBLE! HEALTH CARE IS DEAD!" and then Congress was all "IMPOSSIBLE IS NOTHING!"
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2010, 06:58:21 PM
Ramming a bill through congress with very little public support is a wonderful representation of a bang-up job. I'm just saying :dunno:

If you think about it, it WAS some pretty impressive legislating, given the odds. Everyone was all "IT'S IMPOSSIBLE! HEALTH CARE IS DEAD!" and then Congress was all "IMPOSSIBLE IS NOTHING!"

YES!
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 05, 2010, 07:15:39 PM
Ramming a bill through congress with very little public support is a wonderful representation of a bang-up job. I'm just saying :dunno:

If you think about it, it WAS some pretty impressive legislating, given the odds. Everyone was all "IT'S IMPOSSIBLE! HEALTH CARE IS DEAD!" and then Congress was all "IMPOSSIBLE IS NOTHING!"

Actually, there was nothing impressive about it at all. In fact, it is a real embarrassment for the Dems considering they had a super majority and STILL couldn't get it through without bending the rules to there advantage. Losers. :eye:
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: OK_Cat on April 05, 2010, 08:31:02 PM
just because you hate poor people doesn't mean that they aren't representing the people, chode.

they are representing me just fine.   :gocho:
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: madman on April 05, 2010, 08:41:27 PM
Its not about poor ppl they could get free service through the ER anyway its about more gov. take over. Its unconstitutional to tell ppl they HAVE to be insured and if your not you will be penalized by higher taxes. There is a reason why we are the most powerful nation in the world...Capitalism. The government needs to stay out of the private sector.
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: OK_Cat on April 05, 2010, 08:42:25 PM
Its unconstitutional to tell ppl they HAVE to be insured

own a car, bro?


Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: Jeffy on April 05, 2010, 08:52:20 PM
Its unconstitutional to tell ppl they HAVE to be insured

own a car, bro?




State law vs Federal law
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: OK_Cat on April 05, 2010, 08:53:49 PM
didn't answer my question.

own a car?
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: madman on April 05, 2010, 09:00:01 PM
Yep I do and yes I am required to own liability insurance that affects others, personal health doesnt affect anyone but the person refusing their personal health insurance.... whats next? required life insurance?
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: Jeffy on April 05, 2010, 09:49:11 PM
Yep I do and yes I am required to own liability insurance that affects others, personal health doesnt affect anyone but the person refusing their personal health insurance.... whats next? required life insurance?

And is the State or the Feds that require you to purchase insurance that protects others?

And do they require purchase of Comprehensive Insurance?
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 05, 2010, 10:02:42 PM
didn't answer my question.

own a car?

If you don't want to buy car insurance, just don't drive.  You won't have any choice with health insurance. I would bet there was a stretch of time, maybe a long stretch, that you didn't have health insurance and probably didn't need it.
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: Kat Kid on April 05, 2010, 10:55:47 PM
You'd have thought we went from the stamp act to today.  Also, the government is all up in your health care.  Go protest some VA hospitals or Social Security offices if you are still bent out of shape about the tyranny of geriatrics.
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: Jeffy on April 05, 2010, 11:06:21 PM
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Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: michigancat on April 06, 2010, 08:05:45 AM
didn't answer my question.

own a car?

If you don't want to buy car insurance, just don't drive. 

Exactly.  There are plenty of public transportation options available.
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: felix rex on April 06, 2010, 08:40:47 AM
didn't answer my question.

own a car?

If you don't want to buy car insurance, just don't drive. 

Exactly.  There are plenty of public transportation options available.
:lol:

What I love best about this is that he had no idea it was coming.
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: slackcat on April 06, 2010, 08:41:54 AM


Agreed.  If we don't make changes to both sides of the isle, it will likely tip over or capsize.

Much like Guam
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: steve dave on April 06, 2010, 08:50:43 AM


Agreed.  If we don't make changes to both sides of the isle, it will likely tip over or capsize.

Much like Guam

LMAO, Jeffy should have caught it and turned it into a joke like you just did by pointing out the similarities between his post and that guy saying that!  ROFLMFAO at this guy with his jokes!
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 06, 2010, 10:11:54 AM
didn't answer my question.

own a car?

If you don't want to buy car insurance, just don't drive. 

Exactly.  There are plenty of public transportation options available.

I realize you understand this, but you can drive without car insurance as long as you don't get pulled over or you are not in an accident. No one from the government is actively looking for you.

Not so with our new health care. The IRS will hunt you down, fine you, keep your tax return, then garnish your wages to cover the fine. Love the IRS. :love:
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: felix rex on April 06, 2010, 10:22:50 AM
didn't answer my question.

own a car?

If you don't want to buy car insurance, just don't drive. 

Exactly.  There are plenty of public transportation options available.

I realize you understand this, but you can drive without car insurance as long as you don't get pulled over or you are not in an accident. No one from the government is actively looking for you.

Not so with our new health care. The IRS will hunt you down, fine you, keep your tax return, then garnish your wages to cover the fine. Love the IRS. :love:

So..I can only assume that you'd also advise potential immigrants to bypass lengthy and sometimes costly immigration documents and enter the country illegally so long as they didn't get arrested?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 06, 2010, 11:06:09 AM
didn't answer my question.

own a car?

If you don't want to buy car insurance, just don't drive. 

Exactly.  There are plenty of public transportation options available.

I realize you understand this, but you can drive without car insurance as long as you don't get pulled over or you are not in an accident. No one from the government is actively looking for you.

Not so with our new health care. The IRS will hunt you down, fine you, keep your tax return, then garnish your wages to cover the fine. Love the IRS. :love:

So..I can only assume that you'd also advise potential immigrants to bypass lengthy and sometimes costly immigration documents and enter the country illegally so long as they didn't get arrested?  :dunno:

If they like, they have a choice. But I would also suggest the government actively hunt them down and deport them or make the border more difficult to cross illegally. If we can hunt our own citizens, we should be able to do it with those here illegally. Seems simple, no?
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: felix rex on April 06, 2010, 11:31:19 AM
didn't answer my question.

own a car?

If you don't want to buy car insurance, just don't drive. 

Exactly.  There are plenty of public transportation options available.

I realize you understand this, but you can drive without car insurance as long as you don't get pulled over or you are not in an accident. No one from the government is actively looking for you.

Not so with our new health care. The IRS will hunt you down, fine you, keep your tax return, then garnish your wages to cover the fine. Love the IRS. :love:

So..I can only assume that you'd also advise potential immigrants to bypass lengthy and sometimes costly immigration documents and enter the country illegally so long as they didn't get arrested?  :dunno:

If they like, they have a choice. But I would also suggest the government actively hunt them down and deport them or make the border more difficult to cross illegally. If we can hunt our own citizens, we should be able to do it with those here illegally. Seems simple, no?

So you're in favor of hunting down people that don't pay their insurance?
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: slackcat on April 06, 2010, 12:07:17 PM


Agreed.  If we don't make changes to both sides of the isle, it will likely tip over or capsize.

Much like Guam

LMAO, Jeffy should have caught it and turned it into a joke like you just did by pointing out the similarities between his post and that guy saying that!  ROFLMFAO at this guy with his jokes!



 :runaway:
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: Sugar Dick on April 06, 2010, 12:41:47 PM
This thread is so full of false analogies it's lost all purpose
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 06, 2010, 02:17:27 PM
didn't answer my question.

own a car?

If you don't want to buy car insurance, just don't drive. 

Exactly.  There are plenty of public transportation options available.

I realize you understand this, but you can drive without car insurance as long as you don't get pulled over or you are not in an accident. No one from the government is actively looking for you.

Not so with our new health care. The IRS will hunt you down, fine you, keep your tax return, then garnish your wages to cover the fine. Love the IRS. :love:

So..I can only assume that you'd also advise potential immigrants to bypass lengthy and sometimes costly immigration documents and enter the country illegally so long as they didn't get arrested?  :dunno:

If they like, they have a choice. But I would also suggest the government actively hunt them down and deport them or make the border more difficult to cross illegally. If we can hunt our own citizens, we should be able to do it with those here illegally. Seems simple, no?

So you're in favor of hunting down people that don't pay their insurance?

No, but our current administration seems to be all for it. 16,500 new IRS agents to enforce you buying your health insurance. :dunno:
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: Prince McJunkins on April 06, 2010, 03:45:27 PM
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No, but our current administration seems to be all for it. 16,500 new IRS agents to enforce you buying your health insurance.

This cute talking point has been debunked to absurdity.
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 07, 2010, 01:24:10 AM
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No, but our current administration seems to be all for it. 16,500 new IRS agents to enforce you buying your health insurance.

This cute talking point has been debunked to absurdity.

Really? So if you don't have health insurance the IRS will not send you a bill? They won't try to collect?
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 07, 2010, 09:44:50 AM
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No, but our current administration seems to be all for it. 16,500 new IRS agents to enforce you buying your health insurance.

This cute talking point has been debunked to absurdity.

Really? So if you don't have health insurance the IRS will not send you a bill? They won't try to collect?

:tappingfootlookingatclock:
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: Prince McJunkins on April 07, 2010, 01:18:59 PM
From Factcheck.org:
This wildly inaccurate claim started as an inflated, partisan assertion that 16,500 new IRS employees might be required to administer the new law. That devolved quickly into a claim, made by some Republican lawmakers, that 16,500 IRS ‘agents’ would be required. Republican Rep. Ron Paul of Texas even claimed in a televised interview that all 16,500 would be carrying guns. None of those claims is true.

The IRS’ main job under the new law isn’t to enforce penalties. Its first task is to inform many small-business owners of a new tax credit that the new law grants them — starting this year — which will pay up to 35 percent of the employer’s contribution toward their workers’ health insurance. And in 2014 the IRS will also be administering additional subsidies — in the form of refundable tax credits — to help millions of low- and middle-income individuals buy health insurance.

Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 07, 2010, 02:42:53 PM
From Factcheck.org:
This wildly inaccurate claim started as an inflated, partisan assertion that 16,500 new IRS employees might be required to administer the new law. That devolved quickly into a claim, made by some Republican lawmakers, that 16,500 IRS ‘agents’ would be required. Republican Rep. Ron Paul of Texas even claimed in a televised interview that all 16,500 would be carrying guns. None of those claims is true.

The IRS’ main job under the new law isn’t to enforce penalties. Its first task is to inform many small-business owners of a new tax credit that the new law grants them — starting this year — which will pay up to 35 percent of the employer’s contribution toward their workers’ health insurance. And in 2014 the IRS will also be administering additional subsidies — in the form of refundable tax credits — to help millions of low- and middle-income individuals buy health insurance.



Go to about 3:30 and see the IRS Commissioner squirm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JQlE8Ap_Vs&playnext_from=TL&videos=JPmzBGekqPk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JQlE8Ap_Vs&playnext_from=TL&videos=JPmzBGekqPk)
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: mortons toe on April 07, 2010, 07:43:03 PM
lol........ he absolutely ate $h!t on an epic scale!!! When-o-when are you lib'tards going to stop fantasizing and rationalizing?


this never gets old............. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxMInSfanqg   :lol: :facepalm:
Title: Re: Grass Roots Movement
Post by: mortons toe on April 08, 2010, 07:33:58 PM
lol........ he absolutely ate $h!t on an epic scale!!! When-o-when are you lib'tards going to stop fantasizing and rationalizing?


this never gets old............. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxMInSfanqg   :lol: :facepalm:

its rather comical how the lib'tards get completely owned and seem to just move on to the next subject "so quietly, as if on little cats paws"............  :lol:  :driving:  :lol: