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Title: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2014, 11:15:50 AM: During the heyday of Frank at K-State some fans wondered what JYC basketball would look like with a bunch of NBA players. Late Friday night we get to find out. Kentucky features a kenpom Top 20 offense (1.15 PPP) that cracks the top 10 in both oboarding (42.2%) and getting to the FT line (53.7%); many will say this team's offense is ugly, but its still very efficient. If you are scoring at a high rate, it really doesn't matter what it looks like. Calipari's team has made significant improvements from last year's team that lost in the NIT first round, but this is still his 2nd worst team since 2005 at Memphis.

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The Blue Wildcats overall aren't a great shooting team and poor at shooting 3s, but they don't shoot a lot of them. Like K-State, they turn the ball over quite a bit and don't force turnovers at a high rate. They don't score off of assists at a high rate, but while I've read several say this means they are a poor passing team, I don't necessarily think that's the case. Calipari's teams never have a really high percentage of assists on made shots, but that's a reflection of having extremely talented teams. When players are that good, the offense is designed to create one on one opportunities and let your players make plays. This team happens to also draw a ton of fouls (though UK isn't a great FT shooting team) and some of that is probably due to the new rules. The fact that many of their points are scored from the FT line and from putbacks would also limit Kentucky's assist percentage.

Defensively UK is solid (#31 kenpom, .96 ppp) and like K-State their strength is forcing teams to shoot a low eFG% (45.0%, #22 kenpom). They don't force TOs at a high rate, but are solid on the defensive boards and limit FT attempts. They did slip slightly in SEC play; giving up 1.01 ppp against a league that averaged only 1.04 ppp (the Big 12 finished at 1.07). UK is very good at blocking shots, blocking 15.2% of opponent's 2PT attempts for the season (#12 nationally) while finishing in the Top 40 in 2PT% defense (44%). Opponents also shot less than 32% on 3s against them, but the SEC as a league only shot 33.5% from 3 compared to 34.7% for the Big 12.

This year's Kentucky was supposed to be the 2nd version of the Fab 5, with UK fans even printing up 40-0 t-shirts before the season. The Blue Wildcats regularly start 4 freshmen (bold below in the top chart). Callie-Stein did start more games than Johnson on the season, but Johnson started all 3 games in the SEC tournament. Polson is the only upperclassman that sees meaningful minutes and he doesn't play much. This is a roster that features 3 draft picks in this year's NBA mock draft and 3 more in next year's. Next to Kansas, this will be the most talented team according to those standards that K-State will face so far this season.

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Kentucky is extremely long, so its no surprise that they are successful on the boards and blocking shots. 4 players have at least 156 FT attempts and all but Polson have FT rates above 40%. With the size of their guards, they make match-ups extremely difficult so the FT rate is not a big surprise. They also have tons of guys that can score with 5 guys over 20 PTs/100 and 3 over 25 PTs/100.

K-State isn't likely to out JYC Kentucky, but they can't allow the 7-10% advantage that UK regularly gains on OR% and FT rate. If that happens, K-State likely loses this game by double digits. Another key for the purple Wildcats this year has been 2PT%; when K-State shoots better than opponents on 2s they win 81.3% of the time, when they get beat on 2PT% they only win 43.8% of their games. The Cats will likely need to out-shoot UK on 3s and they should have an advantage there. UK plays at about the same pace and doesn't force a bunch of TOs; hopefully K-State can win the TO% battle and not give up a bunch of transition points. Besides KU, Kentucky's length and athleticism reminds me a lot of Baylor. K-State doesn't have to play a perfect game to win, but they have to play much better than they have since the UT/KU wins.This means shooting better than they have on average this season and winning TO%. The other factor will be how bad Calipari's group of NBA players wants to play in a 8/9 game.

Heart: Purple 68 - Blue 65

Head: Blue 74 - Purple 65
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 19, 2014, 11:16:13 AM: :frown:
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: SabiNation on March 19, 2014, 11:34:11 AM: crap
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 19, 2014, 11:37:45 AM: Quote from: SabiNation on March 19, 2014, 11:34:11 AM
crap

think im goin #teamnobuckets on this one
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Gooch on March 19, 2014, 11:38:57 AM: STTB! :frown:
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2014, 11:41:44 AM: We'd better be ready to just back door cut these guys into oblivion. Are they as bad at shooting free throws as Frank's teams always were? That could be the difference in this game.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: AppleJack on March 19, 2014, 11:45:42 AM: they might have more O-Reb than we have Total-Reb.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 19, 2014, 11:47:32 AM: Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2014, 11:41:44 AM
We'd better be ready to just back door cut these guys into oblivion. Are they as bad at shooting free throws as Frank's teams always were? That could be the difference in this game.

They're slightly better than our team this year (68% vs 66%).
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Cire on March 19, 2014, 11:48:45 AM: They are going to have 75 offensive rebounds against us.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
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We're gonna win guys :gocho:
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on March 19, 2014, 11:53:18 AM: The only real thing giving me hope at this point is the short line that the books are offering...

There MUST be some reason the books are almost begging for UK $$$.

:dunno:
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: pissclams on March 19, 2014, 11:53:37 AM: Quote from: SabiNation on March 19, 2014, 11:34:11 AM
crap
this mug has been wrong before, come on Cats don't be bitches. i already gave you all the details from my dossier.
this crap is game set match, sons

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throw out all the records guys because what we have is an experienced and seasoned k-state team matching up against a bunch of under-performing one and doners AKA the kentucky wildcats.

our advantages will be highlighted early and often. senior guard will spradling aka the jayhawk killer will take advantage of his mismatches and lead this team to a 1st half lead which is when the freshman star foster will come in and lead this team to a even bigger 2nd half lead.

soon, freshman sharpshooter thomas will lead this team to great heights and attack the rim with emotional velocity.

in the end, the powerhouse tag team combo of gipson, johnson, and southwell will put the final touches on this game which will forever be labeled the Picasso from Manhattan.

k-state 81
kentucky 74
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: XocolateThundarr on March 19, 2014, 12:12:12 PM: Quote from: Bookie Pimp on March 19, 2014, 11:53:18 AM
The only real thing giving me hope at this point is the short line that the books are offering...

There MUST be some reason the books are almost begging for UK $$$.

:dunno:

Maybe we should all ask KIV for the lowdown. :dunno:
Title: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: scottwildcat on March 19, 2014, 12:13:21 PM: </3
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2014, 12:16:17 PM: I don't like the match up. I know lots of people made fun the comment, but there was some merit to oscar talking about how we prepped well and took Baylor out of their stuff, then they just turned it over to their guys and Chery and Jefferson made plays. That's what basketball this time of year is about and I think Foster (and to an extent Gipson) can only carry us so far. Kentucky is full of guys with individual talent and ability and it will be tough for us to match-up with them.

IMHO this year we needed one of 2 things to happen to come close to matching plays from other teams; Shane developing into a more of a play maker or Jevon being able to finish/score. As it became clear that neither was going to happen consistently it made it more difficult for this team to beat better teams because they could focus more on Foster. That will be the case Friday night too; again winning isn't impossible, but if we don't create and make a ton of shots from our offense (#assistketball), UK's individual play making ability will beat us because stars matter.

That said, my outlook on the future isn't bleak because I think the potential to get better in that area is there with the guys we have on the roster, IMHO this year's team has been maximized and beating a really talented team like UK will be tough.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: meow meow on March 19, 2014, 12:23:12 PM: stats are for dorks, go cats
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: JohnCurrie is Weird/Gross on March 19, 2014, 12:26:23 PM: _Fan: Who does Spradling guard? and how fast will our bigs get in foul trouble because he can't stay in front of his man?
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: scottwildcat on March 19, 2014, 12:27:50 PM: Quote from: JohnCurrie is Weird/Gross on March 19, 2014, 12:26:23 PM
and how fast will our bigs get in foul trouble because he can't stay in front of his man?

Fast
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: SEK_EMAW on March 19, 2014, 12:28:17 PM: Quote from: #LIFE on March 19, 2014, 11:52:26 AM
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Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 19, 2014, 12:43:07 PM: They lost to South Carolina and haven't beat a tourney team since January.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2014, 12:43:37 PM: Quote from: meow meow on March 19, 2014, 12:23:12 PM
stats are for dorks, go cats

Man. Hurts.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: TownieCat on March 19, 2014, 12:46:28 PM: I watched quite a bit of the UF-UK game on Sunday... Dykes talked about how Randle was only about a 40% shooter when they ran plays for him (P&R, post ups) but over 60% on OR's. Seemed like a strange stat for a guy that good...

Also, UK looked pretty average against UF for about 30 minutes. They were down 54-39 with 11 minutes left, and then UF missed 6 straight shots and had 2 TOs in their next 7 possessions (4:55) to let them back in it.

I think we'll win if we can avoid the 6-8 minute scoring drought that always seems to kill us. If not, we'll lose by 20.

72-66 Purple Cats
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2014, 12:59:13 PM: Quote from: JohnCurrie is Weird/Gross on March 19, 2014, 12:26:23 PM
_Fan: Who does Spradling guard? and how fast will our bigs get in foul trouble because he can't stay in front of his man?

Probably the lessor of the twins. I think the bigs will do a fine job getting into foul trouble on their own. Will's issues on defense this year were more getting into foul trouble himself than getting beat.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 19, 2014, 01:00:13 PM: Omari has 5 fouls to give and I expect him to leave them all on the court.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Asteriskhead on March 19, 2014, 01:01:36 PM: Quote from: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 19, 2014, 01:00:13 PM
Omari has 5 fouls to give and I expect him to leave them all on the court.

Shut your face, Omari has buckets to get. He goes off for twenty. WRITE IT DOWN.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: raquetcat on March 19, 2014, 01:01:52 PM: I'm putting the over/under for K-State players fouling out at 1.5
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: puniraptor on March 19, 2014, 01:03:36 PM: DJamer has a monster game in his hometown

wesley has a monster game against his aau buds that he group txts with

will has a monster game realizing its his last chance to mean something

CATS 75 cats 71
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: meow meow on March 19, 2014, 01:07:32 PM: What if we just hit a rediculous percentage (stat) of shots? like a bunch of percents?
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: puniraptor on March 19, 2014, 01:08:41 PM: Quote from: meow meow on March 19, 2014, 01:07:32 PM
What if we just hit a rediculous percentage (stat) of shots? like a bunch of percents?

it would be REDICULOUS
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2014, 01:11:27 PM: I think we can throw the stats out the window for this one and the Cats win comfortably under Coach oscar's tutelage.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on March 19, 2014, 01:20:05 PM: Quote from: cats2win on March 19, 2014, 12:12:12 PM
Quote from: Bookie Pimp on March 19, 2014, 11:53:18 AM
The only real thing giving me hope at this point is the short line that the books are offering...

There MUST be some reason the books are almost begging for UK $$$.

:dunno:

Maybe we should all ask KIV for the lowdown. :dunno:

She'll sell you the K-State pick for the low, low price of $100 while I'll give ya her play for FREE!!!

Hint: It's ALWAYS K-State and/or the Denver Broncos

:peek:
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: SabiNation on March 19, 2014, 01:20:57 PM: _Fan, do you foresee any defensive issues with our guys confusing these two twins? Like I'm assuming that one of the twins is better than the other one, right? That said, do you think it's possible that Omari mistakenly guards the less good twin causing open driving lanes for the better one?

TIA
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: ksufan44 on March 19, 2014, 01:22:30 PM: I think if we play similar to how we played in our last game (vs Iowa State at the P66), we win this game. Hoiball is better than the blue wildcats on offense and defense has to be somewhat similar, on which we put up 85. Purple cats by 7
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: rollingplains on March 19, 2014, 01:24:00 PM: Quote from: pissclams on March 19, 2014, 11:53:37 AM
Quote from: SabiNation on March 19, 2014, 11:34:11 AM
crap
this mug has been wrong before, come on Cats don't be bitches. i already gave you all the details from my dossier.
this crap is game set match, sons

Quote
throw out all the records guys because what we have is an experienced and seasoned k-state team matching up against a bunch of under-performing one and doners AKA the kentucky wildcats.

our advantages will be highlighted early and often. senior guard will spradling aka the jayhawk killer will take advantage of his mismatches and lead this team to a 1st half lead which is when the freshman star foster will come in and lead this team to a even bigger 2nd half lead.

soon, freshman sharpshooter thomas will lead this team to great heights and attack the rim with emotional velocity.

in the end, the powerhouse tag team combo of gipson, johnson, and southwell will put the final touches on this game which will forever be labeled the Picasso from Manhattan.

k-state 81
kentucky 74

HMMMM Piss you're one strange cookie
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: meow meow on March 19, 2014, 01:26:28 PM: to piggyback off of sabi's question, do the twins wear the same jersey number or different ones?
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: 'taterblast on March 19, 2014, 01:34:04 PM: i think we will have to play "up"

do you guys think we will play "up"?
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: XocolateThundarr on March 19, 2014, 01:58:58 PM: Quote from: Bookie Pimp on March 19, 2014, 01:20:05 PM
Quote from: cats2win on March 19, 2014, 12:12:12 PM
Quote from: Bookie Pimp on March 19, 2014, 11:53:18 AM
The only real thing giving me hope at this point is the short line that the books are offering...

There MUST be some reason the books are almost begging for UK $$$.

:dunno:

Maybe we should all ask KIV for the lowdown. :dunno:

She'll sell you the K-State pick for the low, low price of $100 while I'll give ya her play for FREE!!!

Hint: It's ALWAYS K-State and/or the Denver Broncos

:peek:

...but what is your bazonga situation? As I understand the Vegas sports pick game, those are a requirement.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: AppleJack on March 19, 2014, 02:08:30 PM: Right after Kentucky steamrolls us they will mush Wichita State.

I think Coach Cal gets our guys ready for this weekend. SEC! SEC! SEC!
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: mocat on March 19, 2014, 02:10:20 PM: Quote from: meow meow on March 19, 2014, 01:07:32 PM
What if we just hit a rediculous percentage (stat) of shots? like a bunch of percents?

you will be able to redicule everyone who said otherwise
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 19, 2014, 02:36:20 PM: think I might be able to help with the twins thing- they wear different jersey numbers but they have like almost identical numbers to make it hard to tell them apart. ive filed a complaint with the NCAA to make them change their jersey numbers to something completely different like 14 and 53 (those are just the numbers I used in the email) so omari will know which one to guard.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: nicname on March 19, 2014, 02:47:29 PM: I think one ray of sunshine is UK's low 3-point shooting percentage. K-State always relies heavily on help defense, and this is especially so against teams with talented individual players. When you mix that with opponents who can really shoot it well from long range (ISU, Baylor, even OU to some extent) it becomes really tough for our Cats. K-State helps and helps, but eventually someone is left open from long range and it burns us.

This is less likely to be the case vs a team like Kentucky. Sure, it will be an uphill battle keeping UK off the offensive glass and off of the free throw line, but not having to deal with that additional element at least keeps this game in the winnable category imo.

I really want to win too. Playing WSU in a "nothing to lose" scenario would be a treat imo.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2014, 02:56:00 PM: Quote from: nicname on March 19, 2014, 02:47:29 PM
I think one ray of sunshine is UK's low 3-point shooting percentage. K-State always relies heavily on help defense, and this is especially so against teams with talented individual players. When you mix that with opponents who can really shoot it well from long range (ISU, Baylor, even OU to some extent) it becomes really tough for our Cats. K-State helps and helps, but eventually someone is left open from long range and it burns us.

This is less likely to be the case vs a team like Kentucky. Sure, it will be an uphill battle keeping UK off the offensive glass and off of the free throw line, but not having to deal with that additional element at least keeps this game in the winnable category imo.

I really want to win too. Playing WSU in a "nothing to lose" scenario would be a treat imo.

Good points, being more free to help should be nice for our defense.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: raquetcat on March 19, 2014, 03:17:37 PM: _fan have you taken a look at that fivethirtyeight website that espn has been promoting lately? Nate silver runs it and it seems like a statistics lovers dream. Also someone should write a book about how all these stat guys are revolutionizing sports, I'd pay money to read about pomeroy, the baseball prospectus crew and nate silver, kind of like money ball, but more all encompassing
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2014, 03:22:20 PM: Quote from: raquetcat on March 19, 2014, 03:17:37 PM
_fan have you taken a look at that fivethirtyeight website that espn has been promoting lately? Nate silver runs it and it seems like a statistics lovers dream. Also someone should write a book about how all these stat guys are revolutionizing sports, I'd pay money to read about pomeroy, the baseball prospectus crew and nate silver, kind of like money ball, but more all encompassing

I wouldn't say that they are revolutionizing sports. They are just changing the metrics people use to perceive who is good and who is not.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 19, 2014, 03:25:30 PM: Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2014, 03:22:20 PM
Quote from: raquetcat on March 19, 2014, 03:17:37 PM
_fan have you taken a look at that fivethirtyeight website that espn has been promoting lately? Nate silver runs it and it seems like a statistics lovers dream. Also someone should write a book about how all these stat guys are revolutionizing sports, I'd pay money to read about pomeroy, the baseball prospectus crew and nate silver, kind of like money ball, but more all encompassing

I wouldn't say that they are revolutionizing sports. They are just changing the metrics people use to perceive who is good and who is not.

Silver predicted every senate/house election in '12 except for 1 I think.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2014, 03:33:02 PM: Quote from: meow meow on March 19, 2014, 01:07:32 PM
What if we just hit a rediculous percentage (stat) of shots? like a bunch of percents?

Depends what a bunch of percents means. We shot 61.8% against ISU in KC and lost which is really hard to do. We've only shot better than 60% 2 other times in the past 12 seasons and lost (both of those were with Wooly).
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: meow meow on March 19, 2014, 03:42:20 PM: welp nevermind then, stats say we should shoot poorly, so we better shoot poorly case closed
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: raquetcat on March 19, 2014, 03:50:59 PM: Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2014, 03:22:20 PM
Quote from: raquetcat on March 19, 2014, 03:17:37 PM
_fan have you taken a look at that fivethirtyeight website that espn has been promoting lately? Nate silver runs it and it seems like a statistics lovers dream. Also someone should write a book about how all these stat guys are revolutionizing sports, I'd pay money to read about pomeroy, the baseball prospectus crew and nate silver, kind of like money ball, but more all encompassing

I wouldn't say that they are revolutionizing sports. They are just changing the metrics people use to perceive who is good and who is not.
They're changing (slowly) how coaches call the game, maybe not revolutionizing, but doing more than providing new metrics
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2014, 03:59:21 PM: Quote from: meow meow on March 19, 2014, 03:42:20 PM
welp nevermind then, stats say we should shoot poorly, so we better shoot poorly case closed

So stats don't matter? Just for us dorks?
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: kso_FAN on March 19, 2014, 04:05:29 PM: Quote from: raquetcat on March 19, 2014, 03:17:37 PM
_fan have you taken a look at that fivethirtyeight website that espn has been promoting lately? Nate silver runs it and it seems like a statistics lovers dream. Also someone should write a book about how all these stat guys are revolutionizing sports, I'd pay money to read about pomeroy, the baseball prospectus crew and nate silver, kind of like money ball, but more all encompassing

There will be a book at some point I'm sure. Also, their article on the Shockers was good.

The numbers give you a better lense to view what goes into winning and losing games and how teams and players actually produce (or don't) on the court. Any information that helps coaches, players, and fans is good for the game.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 19, 2014, 04:32:14 PM: I fully expect Gip to have a good game, he is going to create some angels for himself going against some freshmen. We should also effectively by being able to attack Kentucky's Ball screen defense, I expect us to get some quality points of dives to the basket(Looking at DJamer). If we get good defensive minutes from Shane we should be right their.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: meow meow on March 19, 2014, 04:37:44 PM: If Gip can create angels, I REALLY like our chances
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 19, 2014, 04:45:09 PM: I think UK compares to Texas.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: wazucat on March 19, 2014, 06:58:58 PM: I think for the most part the Cats play like dog crap outside Manhappiness.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 19, 2014, 08:16:03 PM: I picked Kentucky in my bracket. It hurt, but there's a billion dollars at stake.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: kim carnes on March 19, 2014, 08:40:13 PM: we'll play suffocating defense
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: kim carnes on March 19, 2014, 08:41:12 PM: we'll contest every loose ball
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Boondock Poonhound on March 19, 2014, 08:45:49 PM: Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 19, 2014, 08:16:03 PM
I picked Kentucky in my bracket. It hurt, but there's a billion dollars at stake.

Same here. Picking Kentucky is a win win.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: kim carnes on March 19, 2014, 08:59:55 PM: we'll have to wax the glass
Title: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: SuperG on March 19, 2014, 10:21:21 PM: Shane and Will have to stop being crappy and actually make some buckets... Like at least a handful of field goals between them. If that happens, then there will be chances to win at the end. Still a longshot IMO.

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Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 19, 2014, 10:26:40 PM: Posted this in another thread.... but here is the info again.....

UK played 14 games vs SEC teams that were in the top 100 rpi. They went 8-6. And here are some stats from those 14 games=

UK Offense-
1.11 PPP
50.4 eFG%
47.6 2pt
39.3 3pt
76% of shots were 2pt/ 24% of shots were 3pt
18.6 TO%
37.6 OR%
UK took 33 more FTAs than opp in those 14 games

UK Defense-
1.07 PPP
48.2 eFG
46.4 2pt
34.9 3pt
30.4% of total shots were from 3pt
16.7 TO%
30.9 OR%

In UK's 8 wins vs the top 100 in SEC.... 7 of those wins they got 1.18 or higher in PPP

Fla beat them 3 times because they they did not let UK rebound. UK was held 35.0 OR or lower in 6 of 21 SEC games. UF did it 3 times. Fla also won the TO battle in their 2 double digit wins. UK also only ave 0.98 ppp in 3 games vs Fla

Now Ark beat UK twice. In the one game, they did by winning the TO battle by a wide margin (nearly 3 to 1 on TOs). Ark got outshot by almost 11% on eFG and got beat by 17% on the OR.
The 2nd time they beat UK they lost the TO battle by a small margain..... and gave up 26 ORs (lost OR% battle by 20%). They won the shooting battle by 11% eFG and made every FT (16-16)

So Ark beat them in 2 totally different games. They got whipped on the boards both games (as we likely will). I don't think its gonna take dominating the TO battle or outshooting UK by 10-12 percent to win. But I do think we need to be about 3-5% better on TO% than UK and we have win the Shooting battle. Being better at the FT line also could be a factor. UK does get to the foul line a lot.... but they only took 33 more FTAs in those 14 games vs SEC top 100. KState has made 76% of our FTs in our last 6 wins. Im sure UK shoots more FTs that us, but if hits UK 17-30 and Ksu 16-21.... then both teams basicly got the same number of pts from FTs
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: MadCat on March 19, 2014, 10:33:35 PM: Quote from: Boondock Poonhound on March 19, 2014, 08:45:49 PM
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 19, 2014, 08:16:03 PM
I picked Kentucky in my bracket. It hurt, but there's a billion dollars at stake.

Same here. Picking Kentucky is a win win.

I would gladly miss out on an astronomically improbable chance at winning a billion dollars for a K-State win. :ksu:
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 19, 2014, 11:13:15 PM: Im hoping for ------
16-36 2pt
8-19 3pt
16-21 FTs

KState 72 Kentucky 68

Being ahead at halftime would go a long ways. Be up by 3-4 and I think its slightly better than 50/50.
14 games vs SEC top 100 and 5 games vs non con top 50...... UK had 11 close games ( 8 pts or less). They went 4-7. Lost all 6 when they trailed at half
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: skycat on March 20, 2014, 02:04:13 AM: Quote from: meow meow on March 19, 2014, 04:37:44 PM
If Gip can create angels, I REALLY like our chances

:D
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: kso_FAN on March 21, 2014, 08:52:07 AM: Calipari hates his team.

Quote
Calipari: “Obviously my 18-year-olds are not listening to me”
Published March 21, 2014
By LARRY VAUGHT

ST. LOUIS — Kentucky coach John Calipari says it is possible for UK to “shock the world” as some players said they would because “everybody says you have no chance” to win the national title.

However, Calipari was not overly thrilled that his players were saying that Thursday.

“I’m trying to get them to focus. And again, when they make that kind of statement, they are not totally listening to me now. You must stay in the moment and play good basketball games. It’s what we do. It’s what we’ve done, it’s how we’re playing,” Calipari said.

“So I don’t watch any TV right now. I don’t care what’s going on. I don’t care who won or who lost. It has no bearing on our game with Kansas State.

“Obviously my 18?year?olds are not listening to me if that is the statement they make. But that’s okay. Now I will go back and kill them and it will give me another opportunity to say something to them.

“We are worried about one game. Let’s shock the world tomorrow, one game. And then we’ll go from there. And it’s maybe good enough, it may not be good enough. We’re playing an outstanding opponent.”
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 21, 2014, 09:33:00 AM: 2day is my birthday. I have one bday wish, but I can't tell u guys what it is.
:party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party:
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 21, 2014, 09:54:56 AM: Quote from: Powercat Posse on March 21, 2014, 09:33:00 AM
2day is my birthday. I have one bday wish, but I can't tell u guys what it is.
:party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party:

Happy B-day stud poster Powercat Posse!
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Mr Bread on March 21, 2014, 10:05:26 AM: I predicted it before the opponent was known, but I'm sticking with the wild go wild purple cats over Cal's bunch of malcontents.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: puniraptor on March 21, 2014, 10:10:07 AM: not even c-low will be able to hold oscar back from beating all this ass

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.kansas.com%2Fsmedia%2F2013%2F03%2F16%2F00%2F40%2F7Wus0.SlMa.80.jpeg&hash=922ef8014c2ec578ba3ce1a7edd869a64d7dfd4c)
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: BostonPancake on March 21, 2014, 10:43:07 AM: Quote from: puniraptor on March 21, 2014, 10:10:07 AM
not even c-low will be able to hold oscar back from beating all this ass

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.kansas.com%2Fsmedia%2F2013%2F03%2F16%2F00%2F40%2F7Wus0.SlMa.80.jpeg&hash=922ef8014c2ec578ba3ce1a7edd869a64d7dfd4c)

Holy crap, how have I never seen this before? Was Lowery OK after oscar slugged him?
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Reboulet on March 21, 2014, 10:50:08 AM: Quote
“I like it when me and Thomas are in there together. When the big fellas are in, it is time to play big-boy ball.”
--DJamer

http://www.kansas.com/2014/03/20/3357869/k-state-ponders-lineup-against.html (http://www.kansas.com/2014/03/20/3357869/k-state-ponders-lineup-against.html)

IT IS TIME TO PLAY BIG-BOY BALL

:block: :alleyoop:
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: The Whale on March 21, 2014, 11:36:22 AM: All of the anti-Frankites are picking the gogopurplecats running away with it, right?

After all, Frank beating these guys with a worse team and his "roll the ball out there" coaching style
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 21, 2014, 11:40:19 AM: Quote from: The Whale on March 21, 2014, 11:36:22 AM
All of the anti-Frankites

You could have just called out sonofdaxjones. There aren't any others that I'm aware of.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 21, 2014, 10:05:18 PM: UK is 5-16 2 pt and 9 TOs..and lead by 6 at half. Are the worthless Srs gonna play another 20 min of sorry Ass ball. Yes Will Shane I mean u
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2014, 10:06:59 PM: Clank....clank......clank.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: chum1 on March 21, 2014, 10:18:05 PM: If Will and Shane hit some 3s, we might be okay.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 21, 2014, 10:20:06 PM: Uk 42% to 26% OR adv. Ksu + 4 on TOs. Those 2 are fine together. Our 37.0 eFg (0-7 3 pt) and 3-6 FT... :Crybaby:
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Trogdor on March 21, 2014, 10:33:12 PM: Thought the bracket said "Kentucky" not "Officials"
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on March 21, 2014, 10:37:25 PM: We knew the refs would be sucking off UK even before the game started but this is just laughable at this point.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Spracne on March 21, 2014, 10:38:09 PM: Quote from: Trogdor on March 21, 2014, 10:33:12 PM
Thought the bracket said "Kentucky" not "Officials"

This is not untrue... You've had some questionable to straight bad calls in this game. Woof.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: signature move on March 21, 2014, 10:38:57 PM: Quote from: MixBerryCrunch on March 21, 2014, 10:37:25 PM
We knew the refs would be sucking off UK even before the game started but this is just laughable at this point.

feel for you guys. that offensive goal-tending call, woof.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: MadCat on March 21, 2014, 10:39:15 PM: GET ALL THE TECHNICALS :curse:
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: C6Z06 on March 21, 2014, 10:40:00 PM: You guys really and truly are getting the shaft in this game..... kind of amazing to tell you the truth.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: eastcat on March 21, 2014, 10:45:43 PM: How can officials suck without recourse?

If I mumped up at my job 6 times a day I would get fired.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Trogdor on March 21, 2014, 10:50:12 PM: Quote from: Spracne on March 21, 2014, 10:38:09 PM
Quote from: Trogdor on March 21, 2014, 10:33:12 PM
Thought the bracket said "Kentucky" not "Officials"

This is not untrue... You've had some questionable to straight bad calls in this game. Woof.

The questionable still outweighs the straight
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 21, 2014, 10:52:28 PM: A
Quote from: puniraptor on March 21, 2014, 10:10:07 AM
not even c-low will be able to hold oscar back from beating all this ass

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.kansas.com%2Fsmedia%2F2013%2F03%2F16%2F00%2F40%2F7Wus0.SlMa.80.jpeg&hash=922ef8014c2ec578ba3ce1a7edd869a64d7dfd4c)
Stud!
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on March 21, 2014, 11:05:02 PM: The only consolation I have is knowing that WSU is going to eff these clowns right up their asses wiht no lube.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: chum1 on March 21, 2014, 11:12:03 PM: I'm not TSC. I hope Kentucky kills Wichita State. eff Wichita State.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on March 21, 2014, 11:16:24 PM: Quote from: chum1 on March 21, 2014, 11:12:03 PM
I'm not TSC. I hope Kentucky kills Wichita State. eff Wichita State.

How about eff you bad person
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: DH on March 21, 2014, 11:25:27 PM: I'm with chum1. Living in Wichita, I can't stand the WSU "fans."
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on March 21, 2014, 11:28:16 PM: Quote from: DH on March 21, 2014, 11:25:27 PM
I'm with chum1. Living in Wichita, I can't stand the WSU "fans."

Jesus rough ridin' christ you sound like the furthest thing possible from a man.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Hurricane Cat on March 21, 2014, 11:46:44 PM: Quote from: chum1 on March 21, 2014, 11:12:03 PM
I'm not TSC. I hope Kentucky kills Wichita State. eff Wichita State.

I'm not TSC either, I'm completely T.... and therefore I hope the exact opposite is true.

:ksu:
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 21, 2014, 11:59:54 PM: UK shot 42.0%eFG. Turned the ball over 1/4 of their poss.... And the game was never in doubt final3-4 minutes.

I said our offense was issue #1 all year. It was tonight for sure
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: nicname on March 22, 2014, 12:06:02 AM: Gotta score the ball. Kentucky (Harrisons) did a good job of not giving Foster catch-and-shoot looks from deep. Outside of that stretch in the first their inability to shoot 3-pointers helped the Cats out on defense. K-State was serviceable on the Drebs (could have been better), but when you can't score it's hard to win.
Title: Re: K-State vs the Blue JYCs
Post by: DH on March 22, 2014, 12:27:35 AM: Quote from: MixBerryCrunch on March 21, 2014, 11:28:16 PM
Quote from: DH on March 21, 2014, 11:25:27 PM
I'm with chum1. Living in Wichita, I can't stand the WSU "fans."

Jesus rough ridin' christ you sound like the furthest thing possible from a man.

Sorry for not jumping on the WSU bandwagon. Been to any of their games or held any conversations with WSU fans? If not liking them and hoping they lose makes me the "furthest thing possible from a man," so be it. I don't care. I want them to lose in horrible fashion.