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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: 'taterblast on February 09, 2014, 07:06:25 PM
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eff you, Russia!!!
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Momentous.
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Good for him. :thumbs:
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:thumbs:
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Lots of gay slurs on twitter. :frown:
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Lots of gay slurs on twitter. :frown:
poor guy, takes real guts to do this. good for him.
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Have known about this for two months now. It was supposed to come out in some magazine earlier.
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Pretty historical
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Lots of gay slurs on twitter. :frown:
Nobody I follow
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Lots of gay slurs on twitter. :frown:
Nobody I follow
Me neither. Had one guy RT a couple to expose them. I don't follow bigots.
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Cool.
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Stud
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Andrew DeWitt ?@DeWittCBS 2m
Mizzou LB MT @ElTorroOcho: We knew of his status for 5 years and not one team member, coach, or staff member said anything
:D
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@edsbs: If gay-friendliness becomes an SEC recruiting factor Tuscaloosa's about to get the biggest damn gay bar you've ever seen.
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@edsbs: If gay-friendliness becomes an SEC recruiting factor Tuscaloosa's about to get the biggest damn gay bar you've ever seen.
i chuckled.
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Link for you poor saps like me that had to Google this. http://m.espn.go.com/general/story?storyId=10429030&src=desktop
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he should've waited til after the draft imo
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he should've waited til after the draft imo
nah, he won't go under his projection now. smart.
also, stud move by Sam.
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I think his thought was that someone else would out him if he waited
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/10/sports/michael-sam-college-football-star-says-he-is-gay-ahead-of-nfl-draft.html?_r=0
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man, props to the Mizzou team. they knew all season, didn't matter, didn't out him.
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Andrew DeWitt ?@DeWittCBS 2m
Mizzou LB MT @ElTorroOcho: We knew of his status for 5 years and not one team member, coach, or staff member said anything
:D
kinda sad that its still considered a "status"
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man, props to the Mizzou team. they knew all season, didn't matter, didn't out him.
how many teams do you think would have? 50%, 60%? less?
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Andrew DeWitt ?@DeWittCBS 2m
Mizzou LB MT @ElTorroOcho: We knew of his status for 5 years and not one team member, coach, or staff member said anything
:D
kinda sad that its still considered a "status"
Meh. That's not the point. I see what you're saying though.
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The Smart story just went to back page
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Lots of gay slurs on twitter. :frown:
Nobody I follow
Agreed, haven't seen a word of bad stuff.
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man, props to the Mizzou team. they knew all season, didn't matter, didn't out him.
how many teams do you think would have? 50%, 60%? less?
honestly, no idea what to even guess at that
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Lots of gay slurs on twitter. :frown:
Nobody I follow
Agreed, haven't seen a word of bad stuff.
See my response to sd's post.
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@DBGshowMe
This guy is very very dumb.
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@DBGshowMe
This guy is very very dumb.
Just peeked at his TL.
JFC
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Andrew DeWitt ?@DeWittCBS 2m
Mizzou LB MT @ElTorroOcho: We knew of his status for 5 years and not one team member, coach, or staff member said anything
:D
kinda sad that its still considered a "status"
Meh. That's not the point. I see what you're saying though.
Sorry I didn't mean in anyway to infer you were apart of that, I know you're just relaying tweets.
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man, props to the Mizzou team. they knew all season, didn't matter, didn't out him.
how many teams do you think would have? 50%, 60%? less?
The fewer Tannahills, etc. the better your odds I guess.
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man, props to the Mizzou team. they knew all season, didn't matter, didn't out him.
how many teams do you think would have? 50%, 60%? less?
i think much much less than that.
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In the NY Times article, it mentioned that teams were hinting that they thought he was gay. It probably will be less of a problem for him now.
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In the NY Times article, it mentioned that teams were hinting that they thought he was gay. It probably will be less of a problem for him now.
NFL teams, or opposing college teams?
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In the NY Times article, it mentioned that teams were hinting that they thought he was gay. It probably will be less of a problem for him now.
NFL teams, or opposing college teams?
NFL scouts.
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Retweeted by Elijah Lee
Ezra Vaoifi ?@Ezra_Vaoifi 9m
Tim Tebow expressed his religion and everybody had a problem with it. Michael Sam says he's gay & he's a courageous role model... C'mon now.
Let's hope he's just being naive.
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Retweeted by Elijah Lee
Ezra Vaoifi ?@Ezra_Vaoifi 9m
Tim Tebow expressed his religion and everybody had a problem with it. Michael Sam says he's gay & he's a courageous role model... C'mon now.
Let's hope he's just being naive.
He's 18, he's obviously naive, but he also needs to be told to shut the eff up for his own good.
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i think NFL scouts/assistants might be some of the worst people around.
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I'm kinda surprised people think Tebow is a hero considering like what? 85 percent of the US population is Christian?
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Need phog.net gems
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Good for him but I hope he can get, well you know, help.
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Good for him but I hope he can get, well you know, help.
with what?
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Retweeted by Elijah Lee
Ezra Vaoifi ?@Ezra_Vaoifi 9m
Tim Tebow expressed his religion and everybody had a problem with it. Michael Sam says he's gay & he's a courageous role model... C'mon now.
Let's hope he's just being naive.
He's 18, he's obviously naive, but he also needs to be told to shut the eff up for his own good.
You need to STFU.
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I don't know just don't hear of many gay football players.
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Retweeted by Elijah Lee
Ezra Vaoifi ?@Ezra_Vaoifi 9m
Tim Tebow expressed his religion and everybody had a problem with it. Michael Sam says he's gay & he's a courageous role model... C'mon now.
Let's hope he's just being naive.
He's 18, he's obviously naive, but he also needs to be told to shut the eff up for his own good.
You need to STFU.
Tread lightly here, pal.
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I don't know just don't hear of many gay football players.
YOU DON'T SAY
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Retweeted by Elijah Lee
Ezra Vaoifi ?@Ezra_Vaoifi 9m
Tim Tebow expressed his religion and everybody had a problem with it. Michael Sam says he's gay & he's a courageous role model... C'mon now.
Let's hope he's just being naive.
He's 18, he's obviously naive, but he also needs to be told to shut the eff up for his own good.
You need to STFU.
No he doesn't, dumbass.
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Retweeted by Elijah Lee
Ezra Vaoifi ?@Ezra_Vaoifi 9m
Tim Tebow expressed his religion and everybody had a problem with it. Michael Sam says he's gay & he's a courageous role model... C'mon now.
Let's hope he's just being naive.
He's 18, he's obviously naive, but he also needs to be told to shut the eff up for his own good.
^^ This.
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Retweeted by Elijah Lee
Ezra Vaoifi ?@Ezra_Vaoifi 9m
Tim Tebow expressed his religion and everybody had a problem with it. Michael Sam says he's gay & he's a courageous role model... C'mon now.
Let's hope he's just being naive.
He's 18, he's obviously naive, but he also needs to be told to shut the eff up for his own good.
You need to STFU.
Tread lightly here, pal.
STFU
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I still don't know who these people are that had a problem with Tebow's religion
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Retweeted by Elijah Lee
Ezra Vaoifi ?@Ezra_Vaoifi 9m
Tim Tebow expressed his religion and everybody had a problem with it. Michael Sam says he's gay & he's a courageous role model... C'mon now.
Let's hope he's just being naive.
He's 18, he's obviously naive, but he also needs to be told to shut the eff up for his own good.
You need to STFU.
Tread lightly here, pal.
STFU
Dig your own grave, then.
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I still don't know who these people are that had a problem with Tebow's religion
I think it's funny that some people act like if he would have been throwing up gang signs all by himself at the end of the bench, then everyone would have loved him. BUT, since he was praying, THAT was the reason that everyone gave him grief. No, he's an obnoxious person, religion had nothing to do with it.
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I still don't know who these people are that had a problem with Tebow's religion
They're the same people who called Orr a racist. The neophyte left
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If Sam mentions his sexual orientation every time he is interviewed whether asked or not, people will get sick of it the same way they got sick of Tebow never shutting up.
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Retweeted by Elijah Lee
Ezra Vaoifi ?@Ezra_Vaoifi 9m
Tim Tebow expressed his religion and everybody had a problem with it. Michael Sam says he's gay & he's a courageous role model... C'mon now.
Let's hope he's just being naive.
He's 18, he's obviously naive, but he also needs to be told to shut the eff up for his own good.
You need to STFU.
Tread lightly here, pal.
STFU
Dig your own grave, then.
Oh look, a "mod" threatening a poster in a feeble attempt to censor and control discourse.
This site is such a rough ridin' joke. Pretty much the opposite of what it holds itself out to be.
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If Tebow was black nobody would have given a eff about his religion.
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Retweeted by Elijah Lee
Ezra Vaoifi ?@Ezra_Vaoifi 9m
Tim Tebow expressed his religion and everybody had a problem with it. Michael Sam says he's gay & he's a courageous role model... C'mon now.
Let's hope he's just being naive.
He's 18, he's obviously naive, but he also needs to be told to shut the eff up for his own good.
You need to STFU.
Tread lightly here, pal.
STFU
Dig your own grave, then.
Oh look, a "mod" threatening a poster in a feeble attempt to censor and control discourse.
This site is such a rough ridin' joke. Pretty much the opposite of what it holds itself out to be.
Then why are you here? There are less than 5 people that value your opinion and yet you continue to complain about mods in more than half your posts.
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I still don't know who these people are that had a problem with Tebow's religion
I think it's funny that some people act like if he would have been throwing up gang signs all by himself at the end of the bench, then everyone would have loved him. BUT, since he was praying, THAT was the reason that everyone gave him grief. No, he's an obnoxious person, religion had nothing to do with it.
EVERYONE was not giving him grief. Tebow had way more supporters than detractors. He just wasn't a good NFL QB and got way more press than he should have. I blame ESPN. I also blame ESPN for SEC bias, high ticket prices, the absence of the mid-range jump shot and global warming.
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If Tebow was black nobody would have given a eff about his religion.
You should go to the bball board and take lessons from KC on trolling.
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JackStack,
When you're a martyr, you'll understand.
Pray for me
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If Tebow was black nobody would have given a eff about his religion.
Nobody gave a eff as it was. He made it the defining story of him.
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If Tebow was black nobody would have given a eff about his religion.
You should go to the bball board and take lessons from KC on trolling.
I'm not joking. Jameis is was waaaaayyy more jeebus than Tebow and nobody gives a crap
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If Tebow was black nobody would have given a eff about his religion.
Nobody gave a eff as it was. He made it the defining story of him.
If Tebow was good, nobody would give a crap. He was in college and they built statues for him
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Tebow and Christians are so discriminated against even though the vast majority of this nation is also Christian.
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If Tebow was black nobody would have given a eff about his religion.
You should go to the bball board and take lessons from KC on trolling.
I'm not joking. Jameis is was waaaaayyy more jeebus than Tebow and nobody gives a crap
And if he talks about it for the next 4 years, people will be sick of him too.
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Can we stop pretending a crap load of people don't hate tebow just because of his bible thumping? A guy just told a newspaper he's gay for gods sake and a man was defamed as a racist to the world all in the last 24 hrs. We don't need to invent bullshit.
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Can we stop pretending a crap load of people don't hate tebow just because of his bible thumping? A guy just told a newspaper he's gay for gods sake and a man was defamed as a racist to the world all in the last 24 hrs. We don't need to invent bullshit.
I don't know anyone who hates him for that.
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Can we stop pretending a crap load of people don't hate tebow just because of his bible thumping? A guy just told a newspaper he's gay for gods sake and a man was defamed as a racist to the world all in the last 24 hrs. We don't need to invent bullshit.
Don't know of any "Christians" in the last couple of generations in this country that were dragged behind a car for their beliefs. The Tebow/Sam - Gay/Christian equation is a poor comparison.
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If Sam mentions his sexual orientation every time he is interviewed whether asked or not, people will get sick of it the same way they got sick of Tebow never shutting up.
Yep.
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Also, Tebow is out of the NFL because he's not an NFL quality QB, not because he's a Christian.
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If Tebow was black nobody would have given a eff about his religion.
Nobody gave a eff as it was. He made it the defining story of him.
If Tebow was good, nobody would give a crap. He was in college and they built statues for him
I'm pretty sure if you asked Tim, he'd say religion is what defines him.
And if you're going to pretend nobody hated him because he was christian, I guess it makes sense that you'll pretend he wasn't any good.
As if it mattered whether or not he even played football, hating someone because they're christian is just as stupid as hating someone because they are gay. Yet, here we are at goE surrounded by a bunch of ignorant rough ridin' bigots.
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If Tebow was black nobody would have given a eff about his religion.
That's not true. It would get annoying, and people would complain.
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If Tebow was black nobody would have given a eff about his religion.
Nobody gave a eff as it was. He made it the defining story of him.
If Tebow was good, nobody would give a crap. He was in college and they built statues for him
I'm pretty sure if you asked Tim, he'd say religion is what defines him.
And if you're going to pretend nobody hated him because he was christian, I guess it makes sense that you'll pretend he wasn't any good.
As if it mattered whether or not he even played football, hating someone because they're christian is just as stupid as hating someone because they are gay. Yet, here we are at goE surrounded by a bunch of ignorant rough ridin' bigots.
As stated 10 times previously, no one here and very few people elsewhere actually hated him for his religious beliefs. He was a great college QB, not a good NFL one, like Collin Klein, Vince Young, Eric Crouch, etc.
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If Tebow was black nobody would have given a eff about his religion.
Nobody gave a eff as it was. He made it the defining story of him.
If Tebow was good, nobody would give a crap. He was in college and they built statues for him
I'm pretty sure if you asked Tim, he'd say religion is what defines him.
And if you're going to pretend nobody hated him because he was christian, I guess it makes sense that you'll pretend he wasn't any good.
As if it mattered whether or not he even played football, hating someone because they're christian is just as stupid as hating someone because they are gay. Yet, here we are at goE surrounded by a bunch of ignorant rough ridin' bigots.
As stated 10 times previously, no one here and very few people elsewhere actually hated him for his religious beliefs. He was a great college QB, not a good NFL one, like Collin Klein, Vince Young, Eric Crouch, etc.
"As stated on here" should be your first clue that's complete bullshit. Your next clue should be the millions of people who hate him because he's Christian.
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I'm kind of curious though, how LHCBS would react to a new recruit telling him that he was gay.
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Is anyone gonna go get the phog.net gems?
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I'm kind of curious though, how LHCBS would react to a new recruit telling him that he was gay.
I don't think he cares about anything other than playing ball.
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If Tebow was black nobody would have given a eff about his religion.
Nobody gave a eff as it was. He made it the defining story of him.
If Tebow was good, nobody would give a crap. He was in college and they built statues for him
I'm pretty sure if you asked Tim, he'd say religion is what defines him.
And if you're going to pretend nobody hated him because he was christian, I guess it makes sense that you'll pretend he wasn't any good.
As if it mattered whether or not he even played football, hating someone because they're christian is just as stupid as hating someone because they are gay. Yet, here we are at goE surrounded by a bunch of ignorant rough ridin' bigots.
As stated 10 times previously, no one here and very few people elsewhere actually hated him for his religious beliefs. He was a great college QB, not a good NFL one, like Collin Klein, Vince Young, Eric Crouch, etc.
Exactly. Ck was awesome, and very religious. No one hates Tebow.
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I'm kind of curious though, how LHCBS would react to a new recruit telling him that he was gay.
I don't think he cares about anything other than playing ball.
This.
Some fans might be uptight about it, but if he could play they'd get over it real quick.
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If Tebow was black nobody would have given a eff about his religion.
Nobody gave a eff as it was. He made it the defining story of him.
If Tebow was good, nobody would give a crap. He was in college and they built statues for him
I'm pretty sure if you asked Tim, he'd say religion is what defines him.
And if you're going to pretend nobody hated him because he was christian, I guess it makes sense that you'll pretend he wasn't any good.
As if it mattered whether or not he even played football, hating someone because they're christian is just as stupid as hating someone because they are gay. Yet, here we are at goE surrounded by a bunch of ignorant rough ridin' bigots.
As stated 10 times previously, no one here and very few people elsewhere actually hated him for his religious beliefs. He was a great college QB, not a good NFL one, like Collin Klein, Vince Young, Eric Crouch, etc.
Exactly. Ck was awesome, and very religious. No one hates Tebow.
Some do.
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And props to Sam. What he did took a lot of courage regardless of your opinion on homosexuality.
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http://tebowhaters.com/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/I-Hate-Tim-Tebow/268986726473027 (there are lots of these)
"teabag" omg, rofl
Let's not forget "Tebowing" or the frenzied hate that ensued after his ProLife ad at last year's super bowl.
I can't tell you how many rough ridin' people I've encountered (all leftists fwiw) that hate Tebow for no other reason than his religion.
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FSD your anger is like, all encompassing man. Its painful to read your posts.
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http://tebowhaters.com/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/I-Hate-Tim-Tebow/268986726473027 (there are lots of these)
"teabag" omg, rofl
Let's not forget "Tebowing" or the frenzied hate that ensued after his ProLife ad at last year's super bowl.
I can't tell you how many rough ridin' people I've encountered (all leftists fwiw) that hate Tebow for no other reason than his religion.
How did this turn into a tirade on Tebow "haters"?
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a facebook page with less than 400 likes and a random website that hasn't been updated or commented on for nearly 3 years that FSD pulled out of his ass is now proof that "millions of people" hate him solely due to religion. Neither the website or FB page said anything about his religion btw. Most of it actually seemed to be because of his sub par QB play.
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Lol at a website started by opposing fans as some kind of proof
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http://tebowhaters.com/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/I-Hate-Tim-Tebow/268986726473027 (there are lots of these)
"teabag" omg, rofl
Let's not forget "Tebowing" or the frenzied hate that ensued after his ProLife ad at last year's super bowl.
I can't tell you how many rough ridin' people I've encountered (all leftists fwiw) that hate Tebow for no other reason than his religion.
When the righteous cry for help, the Lord hears, and rescues them from all their troubles. Chin up, bro.
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I think it's a credit to society that seemingly the only consequence to this guy coming out is fake sugar dick (not even the real sugar dick) getting mad on gE about Tebow.
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I think it's a credit to society that seemingly the only consequence to this guy coming out is fake sugar dick (not even the real sugar dick) getting mad on gE about Tebow.
We've come a long way
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I think it's a credit to society that seemingly the only consequence to this guy coming out is fake sugar dick (not even the real sugar dick) getting mad on gE about Tebow.
We've come a long way
Great point by Trim.
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The only people mad about tebow are ChiCat and Limestone (and JackStack, but I think he's confused). I don't give anymore of a eff about Tebow than I do about Sam.
I did get a lot of goE poster's jorts in a wad, but that wasn't on purpose. Actually pretty amusing.
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I don't know just don't hear of many gay football players.
YOU DON'T SAY
Imo, you really could've topped this off with a Nic Cage meme
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Trim is right, fsd losing it over Tebow on gE is the biggest blip of the Sam announcement.
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I have no idea what FSD's point is.
The bottom line is that it's cool that this guy had the courage to come out to his team (which had to have been a pretty scary thing) and it's cool that his team embraced him.
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Trim is right, fsd losing it over Tebow on gE is the biggest blip of the Sam announcement.
Still butthurt about the pit, aren't you?
It's okay, pal.
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Trim is right, fsd losing it over Tebow on gE is the biggest blip of the Sam announcement.
I'm not sure if the NYT will even bother with any further coverage, but if they call us for comment, who should we have be our mouthpiece?
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I have no idea what FSD's point is.
The bottom line is that it's cool that this guy had the courage to come out to his team (which had to have been a pretty scary thing) and it's cool that his team embraced him.
It's also cool that Tim is religious and that his team embraced him, even though a bunch of bigots hate him for being religious.
Looking back, the Tebow stuff started from Pete going Orr on Elijah Lee.
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I'm kind of curious though, how LHCBS would react to a new recruit telling him that he was gay.
I don't think he cares about anything other than playing ball.
This.
Some fans might be uptight about it, but if he could play they'd get over it real quick.
LHC Bill Snyder had NO issue throwing Ell under the bus and going back on his word to Marcus Raines because of letter writing rubes. LHC Bill Snyder cares a lot about what people think about his decisions.
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If Tebow was black nobody would have given a eff about his religion.
Nobody gave a eff as it was. He made it the defining story of him.
If Tebow was good, nobody would give a crap. He was in college and they built statues for him
I'm pretty sure if you asked Tim, he'd say religion is what defines him.
And if you're going to pretend nobody hated him because he was christian, I guess it makes sense that you'll pretend he wasn't any good.
As if it mattered whether or not he even played football, hating someone because they're christian is just as stupid as hating someone because they are gay. Yet, here we are at goE surrounded by a bunch of ignorant rough ridin' bigots.
As stated 10 times previously, no one here and very few people elsewhere actually hated him for his religious beliefs. He was a great college QB, not a good NFL one, like Collin Klein, Vince Young, Eric Crouch, etc.
"As stated on here" should be your first clue that's complete bullshit. Your next clue should be the millions of people who hate him because he's Christian.
I couldn't stand him because he wouldn't shut up about being a Christian, so everyone else wouldn't shut up about him being a Christian, and it took away from the fact that he was a mediocre quarterback who was using his faith to build his brand.
Klein was Christian as crap, but no one brought it up because he didn't wear it on his sleeve. They're like the exact same guy, but Klein went about it the right way. People tried to get him to go on about it, but he generally shut it down and just let his actions do the talking.
Back on topic, good for Sam.
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goEMAW.com: When Michael Sam announced he was gay, someone posted his name with a thumbs-up, a bunch of people googled his name to figure out who he was, everyone was indifferent and/or positive, and fake sugar dick finally found a platform to talk about an aspiring quarterback.
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I have no idea what FSD's point is.
The bottom line is that it's cool that this guy had the courage to come out to his team (which had to have been a pretty scary thing) and it's cool that his team embraced him.
It's also cool that Tim is religious and that his team embraced him, even though a bunch of bigots hate him for being religious.
Looking back, the Tebow stuff started from Pete going Orr on Elijah Lee.
lol jfc
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goEMAW.com: When Michael Sam announced he was gay, someone posted his name with a thumbs-up, a bunch of people googled his name to figure out who he was, everyone was indifferent and/or positive, and fake sugar dick finally found a platform to talk about an aspiring quarterback.
Racist Piece of crap
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I have no idea what FSD's point is.
The bottom line is that it's cool that this guy had the courage to come out to his team (which had to have been a pretty scary thing) and it's cool that his team embraced him.
It's also cool that Tim is religious and that his team embraced him, even though a bunch of bigots hate him for being religious.
Looking back, the Tebow stuff started from Pete going Orr on Elijah Lee.
There are much fewer people that hate Tebow because he's Christian(and they exist) than there are that hate Sam because he's gay. It's a non-issue that you are making into an issue, people hating Tebow because he's Christian isn't affecting him nearly as much people hating Sam because he's gay(restriction of rights, many more bigots, etc.)
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The bottom line is that it's cool that this guy had the courage to come out to his team (which had to have been a pretty scary thing) and it's cool that his team embraced him.
It's also cool that Tim is religious and that his team embraced him.
Yeah, I agree, weirdo. Although, it's probably decidedly less intimidating telling your team that you're a Christian than it is to tell them that you're gay.
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Guys stop ganging up on FSD, jesus christ.
times are tough for him with all of the attention the coloreds, the gays, and the godless heathens are getting; I mean hell they are almost being treated like equal humans, its tough time for our guy FSD
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Trim is right, fsd losing it over Tebow on gE is the biggest blip of the Sam announcement.
Still butthurt about the pit, aren't you?
It's okay, pal.
Beems level meltdown by fsd
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JFC, dweebs.
I hereby ratify and restate the goE marching orders:
Tebow being super-relijelly = self-serving brand building, his haters don't exist
Sam being gay = courageous, anyone opposing his lifestyle shall die in a fire.
Better?
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I'm not mad about Tebow and don't know anyone who is. You claim a lot of people hate hi for his religion, I've never seen one person hate him for that reason. You haven't shown us anyone who hates him for that reason. If people hate Tebow for his religion, they are just as stupid as people who hate Sam because he is gay. But people use some Tebow persecution complex to gay bash. That's really weird
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Just imagine if this guy was a Nebraska player. Dayum
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I'm not mad about Tebow and don't know anyone who is. You claim a lot of people hate hi for his religion, I've never seen one person hate him for that reason. You haven't shown us anyone who hates him for that reason. If people hate Tebow for his religion, they are just as stupid as people who hate Sam because he is gay. But people use some Tebow persecution complex to gay bash. That's really weird
1. I don't believe you are actually this obtuse.
2. Pete's Orr'ing of Elijah Lee caused all of this Tebow jibber jabber. The only parallel is both people are the subject of hate because of their "lifestyle".
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Why do people today feel obligated to make announcements about private matters? If he can play the game on the field, then great. That's enough. Anything else is beside the point. In any event, he doesn't owe an explanation to anyone about anything else and shouldn't feel compelled to issue one, unless he simply wants the attention for some concocted, politically-correct, heroic purpose. Nor should anyone feel they're owed one, save on the basis of some concocted, politically-correct, but actually prurient purpose.
Gay people need heros. Just like misogynists needed bill clinton, pedophiles needed Roman Polanski, nymphos needed tiger woods, wankers needed peewee herman, and androginytes needed marilyn manson.
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The bottom line is that it's cool that this guy had the courage to come out to his team (which had to have been a pretty scary thing) and it's cool that his team embraced him.
It's also cool that Tim is religious and that his team embraced him.
Yeah, I agree, weirdo. Although, it's probably decidedly less intimidating telling your team that you're a Christian than it is to tell them that you're gay.
Probably more intimidating telling the NYT your christian than telling them your gay, tho
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The bottom line is that it's cool that this guy had the courage to come out to his team (which had to have been a pretty scary thing) and it's cool that his team embraced him.
It's also cool that Tim is religious and that his team embraced him.
Yeah, I agree, weirdo. Although, it's probably decidedly less intimidating telling your team that you're a Christian than it is to tell them that you're gay.
Probably more intimidating telling the NYT your christian than telling them your gay, tho
damn, i was waiting for your liberal zinger reply to that post, and you really mailed it in.
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Tebow being super-relijelly
This little gem made reading all of Fake FSD's meltdown worth it.
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Is anyone gonna go get the phog.net gems?
So was he gay before he got to Columbia or did Columbia and MU turn him gay?
It amazes me that this is such a watershed moment for you all. I couldn't give a rats butt who or what he wants to have sex with. Go back in the closet. So stupid.
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Is anyone gonna go get the phog.net gems?
So was he gay before he got to Columbia or did Columbia and MU turn him gay?
It amazes me that this is such a watershed moment for you all. I couldn't give a rats butt who or what he wants to have sex with. Go back in the closet. So stupid.
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And Jack Stack thought only 5 people care what I say. Pffft, I have mods following me around this place, MODS son!
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And Jack Stack thought only 5 people care what I say. Pffft, I have mods following me around this place, MODS son!
lol
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The bottom line is that it's cool that this guy had the courage to come out to his team (which had to have been a pretty scary thing) and it's cool that his team embraced him.
It's also cool that Tim is religious and that his team embraced him.
Yeah, I agree, weirdo. Although, it's probably decidedly less intimidating telling your team that you're a Christian than it is to tell them that you're gay.
Probably more intimidating telling the NYT your christian than telling them your gay, tho
damn, i was waiting for your liberal zinger reply to that post, and you really mailed it in.
Also, double "your" "you're" fail, :blush:
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This thread was so terrible
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i think NFL scouts/assistants might be some of the worst people around.
confirmed, complete pieces of crap:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20140209/michael-sam-draft-stock/
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I do hate Tebow, but I live in Jacksonville, so I have earned that right.
Kudos to Mr. Sam.
kono
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i think NFL scouts/assistants might be some of the worst people around.
confirmed, complete pieces of crap:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20140209/michael-sam-draft-stock/
I believe they have been that way historically.
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i think NFL scouts/assistants might be some of the worst people around.
confirmed, complete pieces of crap:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20140209/michael-sam-draft-stock/
Worth noting that the guy there with the harshest comments is a FORMER general manager. I bet it was that piece of crap Jeff Ireland who is just pissed that he can't out Sam.
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Saw a tweet from Rich Homie Quan saying he wished Mike Sam's middle name was Will and he played LB (which he may). Kinda funny.
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oscar Feldman ? @BFeldmanCBS
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Guess Michael Sam coming out to his teammates before the season didn't hurt the locker room. #Mizzou went from 5-7 to 12-2.
Spencer Hall @edsbs
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If gay-friendliness becomes an SEC recruiting factor Tuscaloosa's about to get the biggest damn gay bar you've ever seen.
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yes, lol'd to that pete
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i think NFL scouts/assistants might be some of the worst people around.
confirmed, complete pieces of crap:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20140209/michael-sam-draft-stock/
Worth noting that the guy there with the harshest comments is a FORMER general manager. I bet it was that piece of crap Jeff Ireland who is just pissed that he can't out Sam.
Man, it's tough to tell which one of those assholes is the biggest piece of crap.
And I don't think any NFL guys wanted to out him - they wanted to know he was gay but keep it quiet so they could let him drop without having to explain themselves.
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i think NFL scouts/assistants might be some of the worst people around.
confirmed, complete pieces of crap:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20140209/michael-sam-draft-stock/
If he falls, and sadly he probably will I hope he goes all Tom Brady in the NFL and just mushes the crap out people and becomes an All-Pro. I'd love to hear what the scouts say then. "Oh man, he's pretty good but at least we preserved the sanctity of the locker room because really guys the NFL isn't ready."
Also hope the Chiefs draft him because he led the SEC in sacks and that means he's pretty good.
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Also hope the Chiefs draft him because he led the SEC in sacks and that means he's pretty good.
Cowboys fan here, and I hope they draft him too. I know scouts pay a lot of attention to the measurables (ht, wt, 40, etc) but how does a consensus 1st team AA and SEC Def PoY project as a mid round pick? Makes zero sense to me.
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Also hope the Chiefs draft him because he led the SEC in sacks and that means he's pretty good.
Cowboys fan here, and I hope they draft him too. I know scouts pay a lot of attention to the measurables (ht, wt, 40, etc) but how does a consensus 1st team AA and SEC Def PoY project as a mid round pick? Makes zero sense to me.
Not sure if serious...
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If Tebow was black nobody would have given a eff about his religion.
That's not true. It would get annoying, and people would complain, and get called racist.
FYP
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Also hope the Chiefs draft him because he led the SEC in sacks and that means he's pretty good.
Cowboys fan here, and I hope they draft him too. I know scouts pay a lot of attention to the measurables (ht, wt, 40, etc) but how does a consensus 1st team AA and SEC Def PoY project as a mid round pick? Makes zero sense to me.
Not sure if serious...
Which part? Because I was serious about everything.
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I think the knock on him is he is smallish for his position and he will have to move positions or add size. Also, apparently his sacks were against the weaker teams.
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A good piece of pussy might actually cure this problem. :dunno:
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A good piece of pussy might actually cure this problem. :dunno:
get off my message board
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@E_Waters81: Half of y'all posting these pics saying how proud you are. But most of y'all was the ones talkin crap behind his back in the locker room
Former Mizzou tight end. Ugh
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A good piece of pussy might actually cure this problem. :dunno:
Gtfooh
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A good piece of pussy might actually cure this problem. :dunno:
Gtfooh
I can't tell if he's serious. Not that it matters.
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Also hope the Chiefs draft him because he led the SEC in sacks and that means he's pretty good.
Cowboys fan here, and I hope they draft him too. I know scouts pay a lot of attention to the measurables (ht, wt, 40, etc) but how does a consensus 1st team AA and SEC Def PoY project as a mid round pick? Makes zero sense to me.
Not sure if serious...
Which part? Because I was serious about everything.
The part about why you don't know why he isn't being projected higher and thinking because you are an AA and a conference player of the year should automatically make you a first or second round guy.
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I'll admit I did enjoy the scouts calling sec teams "garbage competition".
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A good piece of pussy might actually cure this problem. :dunno:
i just feel like maybe you should never post anything ever again
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Also hope the Chiefs draft him because he led the SEC in sacks and that means he's pretty good.
Cowboys fan here, and I hope they draft him too. I know scouts pay a lot of attention to the measurables (ht, wt, 40, etc) but how does a consensus 1st team AA and SEC Def PoY project as a mid round pick? Makes zero sense to me.
Not sure if serious...
Which part? Because I was serious about everything.
The part about why you don't know why he isn't being projected higher and thinking because you are an AA and a conference player of the year should automatically make you a first or second round guy.
How many BCS DPoY and consensus AA can you think of that haven't been drafted in the first 3 rounds? This probably belongs in a different thread, but NFL scouts are morons for thinking guys like Sam can't play just because he's an inch short or 10 lbs light.
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Also hope the Chiefs draft him because he led the SEC in sacks and that means he's pretty good.
Cowboys fan here, and I hope they draft him too. I know scouts pay a lot of attention to the measurables (ht, wt, 40, etc) but how does a consensus 1st team AA and SEC Def PoY project as a mid round pick? Makes zero sense to me.
Not sure if serious...
Which part? Because I was serious about everything.
The part about why you don't know why he isn't being projected higher and thinking because you are an AA and a conference player of the year should automatically make you a first or second round guy.
How many BCS DPoY and consensus AA can you think of that haven't been drafted in the first 3 rounds? This probably belongs in a different thread, but NFL scouts are morons for thinking guys like Sam can't play just because he's an inch short or 10 lbs light.
When did Geno Torreta (sp?) get drafted? Wasn't he a Heisman winner?
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not now katdaddy - sd
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It would be exhausting to hate Christians. I mean they're everywhere.
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For crying out loud...It was just a joke...wtf...
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For crying out loud...It was just a joke...wtf...
go away
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not now katdaddy - sd
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unleashthemob you can learn from this
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unleashthemob you can learn from this
plenty of stone throwing....just depends who says it on here...
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unleashthemob you can learn from this
plenty of stone throwing....just depends who says it on here...
I will agree there's truth to this. Doesn't apply in this case though.
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unleashthemob you can learn from this
plenty of stone throwing....just depends who says it on here...
yeah, a lot of similar garbage to that is being very well received. seriously go away.
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I'm really happy for Sam having the balls to come out and setting an example. However, I'm sad the story came out yesterday. :frown: Between this and Smart, no one wants to talk Sunflower Showdown on WHB. :frown:
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Posnanski knocks it out of the park.
http://www.nbcsports.com/joe-posnanski/robinson-sam-blazing-trails-seven-decades-apart
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unleashthemob you can learn from this
plenty of stone throwing....just depends who says it on here...
yeah, a lot of similar garbage to that is being very well received. seriously go away.
yep pick and choose...I've heard far worse jokes on here, sorry I hit a nerve!
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unleashthemob you can learn from this
plenty of stone throwing....just depends who says it on here...
yeah, a lot of similar garbage to that is being very well received. seriously go away.
yep pick and choose...I've heard far worse jokes on here, sorry I hit a nerve!
seriously, stop posting and go away.
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Posnanski knocks it out of the park.
http://www.nbcsports.com/joe-posnanski/robinson-sam-blazing-trails-seven-decades-apart
that was good
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seriously, I want to fight anonymous NFL GM's.
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unleashthemob you can learn from this
plenty of stone throwing....just depends who says it on here...
I will agree there's truth to this. Doesn't apply in this case though.
Yea, Your right, I am sorry...I actually feel glad for him...
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For crying out loud...It was just a joke...wtf...
I feel for you. :frown:
JK :lol:
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unleashthemob you can learn from this
plenty of stone throwing....just depends who says it on here...
I will agree there's truth to this. Doesn't apply in this case though.
Yea, Your right, I am sorry...I actually feel glad for him...
It was an awful, awful joke that only a bad person would make. Quit blaming the site for you being a bad person.
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unleashthemob you can learn from this
plenty of stone throwing....just depends who says it on here...
I will agree there's truth to this. Doesn't apply in this case though.
Yea, Your right, I am sorry...I actually feel glad for him...
It was an awful, awful joke that only a bad person would make. Quit blaming the site for you being a bad person.
I made a poor taste joke...I'm sorry...I accept responsibility... I should of read the whole thing before I said anything
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unleashthemob you can learn from this
plenty of stone throwing....just depends who says it on here...
I will agree there's truth to this. Doesn't apply in this case though.
Yea, Your right, I am sorry...I actually feel glad for him...
It was an awful, awful joke that only a bad person would make. Quit blaming the site for you being a bad person.
I made a poor taste joke...I'm sorry...I accept responsibility... I should of read the whole thing before I said anything
:curse:
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unleashthemob you can learn from this
plenty of stone throwing....just depends who says it on here...
Nobody knows who you are dude. I certainly wouldn't have gotten away with that joke, not that I would have told it, and my views on women, lgtbq, and minorities is pretty well documented.
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Posnanski knocks it out of the park.
http://www.nbcsports.com/joe-posnanski/robinson-sam-blazing-trails-seven-decades-apart
that was good
I liked the totality of what he said, I hate the Jackie Robinson comparison
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Posnanski knocks it out of the park.
http://www.nbcsports.com/joe-posnanski/robinson-sam-blazing-trails-seven-decades-apart
that was good
I liked the totality of what he said, I hate the Jackie Robinson comparison
how come?
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Posnanski knocks it out of the park.
http://www.nbcsports.com/joe-posnanski/robinson-sam-blazing-trails-seven-decades-apart
that was good
I liked the totality of what he said, I hate the Jackie Robinson comparison
how come?
If someone had said "maybe Jackie Robinson just needs some pussy" in 1944 or whatever, no one on message boards would have PI'd the crap out of that person.
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Very few things piss me off more in the world than people like FSD trying to play the victim when people feel comfortable enough in their own skin to be proudly different from the "Christian Nation accepted definition of normal"
And, along w/ everyone else w/ a rational brain, I do not know anybody that hates Tebow. I am a shining example of someone that SHOULD hate Tebow, being a Liberal Athiest, and I think Tebow was just fine, I also think he was a fairly awful NFL football player that was given more chances than others of similar skillset have gotten. Did Tebow get fun poked at him? Absolutely, but to equate those jabs with hate is pathetically weak.
Gay people need heros. Just like misogynists needed bill clinton, pedophiles needed Roman Polanski, nymphos needed tiger woods, wankers needed peewee herman, and androginytes needed marilyn manson.
This is seriously one of the stupidest rough ridin' posts I've ever read on this site, or any site for that matter.
:buh-bye:
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Posnanski knocks it out of the park.
http://www.nbcsports.com/joe-posnanski/robinson-sam-blazing-trails-seven-decades-apart
that was good
I liked the totality of what he said, I hate the Jackie Robinson comparison
how come?
If someone had said "maybe Jackie Robinson just needs some pussy" in 1944 or whatever, no one on message boards would have PI'd the crap out of that person.
we've come a long way
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can we have a master list of what people, groups, political parties, religions, universities, genders, age groups, etc. that are
goEMAW approved for mocking, laughing at, and general good time fooling around with and which social segments are on
goEMAW protected list. Thanks, I just don't want to bigot off in the wrong direction.
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can we have a master list of what people, groups, political parties, religions, universities, genders, age groups, etc. that are
goEMAW approved for mocking, laughing at, and general good time fooling around with and which social segments are on
goEMAW protected list. Thanks, I just don't want to bigot off in the wrong direction.
if you need a list then you need to get your ass away from our message board
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Posnanski knocks it out of the park.
http://www.nbcsports.com/joe-posnanski/robinson-sam-blazing-trails-seven-decades-apart
that was good
I liked the totality of what he said, I hate the Jackie Robinson comparison
how come?
If someone had said "maybe Jackie Robinson just needs some pussy" in 1944 or whatever, no one on message boards would have PI'd the crap out of that person.
we've come a long way
damn, there goes my long list of jokes. :D
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can we have a master list of what people, groups, political parties, religions, universities, genders, age groups, etc. that are
goEMAW approved for mocking, laughing at, and general good time fooling around with and which social segments are on
goEMAW protected list. Thanks, I just don't want to bigot off in the wrong direction.
if you need a list then you need to get your ass away from our message board
Well, can I make fun of republicans on here?
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can we have a master list of what people, groups, political parties, religions, universities, genders, age groups, etc. that are
goEMAW approved for mocking, laughing at, and general good time fooling around with and which social segments are on
goEMAW protected list. Thanks, I just don't want to bigot off in the wrong direction.
if you need a list then you need to get your ass away from our message board
Well, can I make fun of republicans on here?
you can make fun of whoever you want
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can we have a master list of what people, groups, political parties, religions, universities, genders, age groups, etc. that are
goEMAW approved for mocking, laughing at, and general good time fooling around with and which social segments are on
goEMAW protected list. Thanks, I just don't want to bigot off in the wrong direction.
if you need a list then you need to get your ass away from our message board
Well, can I make fun of republicans on here?
do whatever you want
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Posnanski knocks it out of the park.
http://www.nbcsports.com/joe-posnanski/robinson-sam-blazing-trails-seven-decades-apart
that was good
I liked the totality of what he said, I hate the Jackie Robinson comparison
how come?
Jackie Robinson literally risked his life breaking the color barrier, if a fan calls Sam a fudgepacker they would rightfully be barred from attending games for life. The struggle isn't comparable.
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Posnanski knocks it out of the park.
http://www.nbcsports.com/joe-posnanski/robinson-sam-blazing-trails-seven-decades-apart
that was good
I liked the totality of what he said, I hate the Jackie Robinson comparison
how come?
Jackie Robinson literally risked his life breaking the color barrier, if a fan calls Sam a fudgepacker they would rightfully be barred from attending games for life. The struggle isn't comparable.
It is comparable. Just to a different degree.
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can we have a master list of what people, groups, political parties, religions, universities, genders, age groups, etc. that are
goEMAW approved for mocking, laughing at, and general good time fooling around with and which social segments are on
goEMAW protected list. Thanks, I just don't want to bigot off in the wrong direction.
if you need a list then you need to get your ass away from our message board
Well, can I make fun of republicans on here?
do whatever you want
yeah, that sounds like a setup. I don't trust you, if I start making fun of jayhawks or something, next thing I know I'll get ganged up
on by you and seven.
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Posnanski knocks it out of the park.
http://www.nbcsports.com/joe-posnanski/robinson-sam-blazing-trails-seven-decades-apart
that was good
I liked the totality of what he said, I hate the Jackie Robinson comparison
how come?
Jackie Robinson literally risked his life breaking the color barrier, if a fan calls Sam a fudgepacker they would rightfully be barred from attending games for life. The struggle isn't comparable.
It is comparable. Just to a different degree.
Read a book
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Posnanski knocks it out of the park.
http://www.nbcsports.com/joe-posnanski/robinson-sam-blazing-trails-seven-decades-apart
that was good
I liked the totality of what he said, I hate the Jackie Robinson comparison
how come?
Jackie Robinson literally risked his life breaking the color barrier, if a fan calls Sam a fudgepacker they would rightfully be barred from attending games for life. The struggle isn't comparable.
It is comparable. Just to a different degree.
it's absolutely not comparable
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Jfc, I'm not saying it's the same thing.
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Also, Robinson was literally excluded from playing in MLB for a portion of his career. And it was officially sanctioned. It's not like you could be an in the closet minority.
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Jfc, I'm not saying it's the same thing.
Just stop
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Posnanski knocks it out of the park.
http://www.nbcsports.com/joe-posnanski/robinson-sam-blazing-trails-seven-decades-apart
that was good
I liked the totality of what he said, I hate the Jackie Robinson comparison
That was my first thought. Jackie Robinson didn't have the opportunity to choose when the time was right to confront racism. There's no hiding it. Being gay, while not a choice either, you usually get the opportunity to choose when to confront the bigotry, or even choose not to. You can keep it private.
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Anyway, the Jackie Robinson comparison was not at all essential to that column, not even sure how he tied it together
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Anyway, the Jackie Robinson comparison was not at all essential to that column, not even sure how he tied it together
I'm not going to argue. Didn't mean to offend anybody. I realize the difference.
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Also, Robinson was literally excluded from playing in MLB for a portion of his career. And it was officially sanctioned. It's not like you could be an in the closet minority.
This made me chuckle
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Posnanski knocks it out of the park.
http://www.nbcsports.com/joe-posnanski/robinson-sam-blazing-trails-seven-decades-apart
that was good
I liked the totality of what he said, I hate the Jackie Robinson comparison
That was my first thought. Jackie Robinson didn't have the opportunity to choose when the time was right to confront racism. There's no hiding it. Being gay, while not a choice either, you usually get the opportunity to choose when to confront the bigotry, or even choose not to. You can keep it private.
You can't keep it private if rumors have already started swirling among your potential employers and there's a chance it'll be common hearsay pretty soon. The idea that you can choose when to or when not to confront hatred for what you are and there's no pressure to have the courage to reveal yourself to others is rather ignorant of realities.
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Anyway, the Jackie Robinson comparison was not at all essential to that column, not even sure how he tied it together
i think he tied it together by comparing the excuses that people made at the time to justify why it shouldn't happen. can't handle it, poor locker room morale, other teammates would not accept it, etc. and then saying that those sounded reasonable to a lot of people at the time but that in hindsight they all sound really, really, stupid.
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posnanski is really one of the worst writers in the world. Rick Reilly looks down on him.
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Posnanski knocks it out of the park.
http://www.nbcsports.com/joe-posnanski/robinson-sam-blazing-trails-seven-decades-apart
that was good
I liked the totality of what he said, I hate the Jackie Robinson comparison
That was my first thought. Jackie Robinson didn't have the opportunity to choose when the time was right to confront racism. There's no hiding it. Being gay, while not a choice either, you usually get the opportunity to choose when to confront the bigotry, or even choose not to. You can keep it private.
You can't keep it private if rumors have already started swirling among your potential employers and there's a chance it'll be common hearsay pretty soon. The idea that you can choose when to or when not to confront hatred for what you are and there's no pressure to have the courage to reveal yourself to others is rather ignorant of realities.
In this case you can. It isn't the ideal way to live, but it can be done. Sam chose to fight and should be proud.
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A better comparison would be like Sandra Day O'Connor or something
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Anyway, the Jackie Robinson comparison was not at all essential to that column, not even sure how he tied it together
i think he tied it together by comparing the excuses that people made at the time to justify why it shouldn't happen. can't handle it, poor locker room morale, other teammates would not accept it, etc. and then saying that those sounded reasonable to a lot of people at the time but that in hindsight they all sound really, really, stupid.
Yep. NFL executives have already been quoted saying things like Sam is a potential "distraction" and a "risk" to the organization. Discrimination is discrimination, regardless of who it's against.
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posnanski is really one of the worst writers in the world. Rick Reilly looks down on him.
The only thing I truly miss about Posnanski is not having him writing at the star simultaneously with Whitlock because from about 1994-1999 it was the easiest way for a Tuck (racist) to accidentally self-identify.
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posnanski is really one of the worst writers in the world. Rick Reilly looks down on him.
The only thing I truly miss about Posnanski is not having him writing at the star simultaneously with Whitlock because from about 1994-1999 it was the easiest way for a Tuck (racist) to accidentally self-identify.
huh? that post makes no sense.
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posnanski is really one of the worst writers in the world. Rick Reilly looks down on him.
The only thing I truly miss about Posnanski is not having him writing at the star simultaneously with Whitlock because from about 1994-1999 it was the easiest way for a Tuck (racist) to accidentally self-identify.
huh? that post makes no sense.
Tucks loathed the brash and aggressive Whitlock and loved the over-sentimental Posnanski.
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posnanski is really one of the worst writers in the world. Rick Reilly looks down on him.
The only thing I truly miss about Posnanski is not having him writing at the star simultaneously with Whitlock because from about 1994-1999 it was the easiest way for a Tuck (racist) to accidentally self-identify.
huh? that post makes no sense.
Tucks loathed the brash and aggressive Whitlock and loved the over-sentimental Posnanski.
What does that have to do with racism?
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posnanski is really one of the worst writers in the world. Rick Reilly looks down on him.
The only thing I truly miss about Posnanski is not having him writing at the star simultaneously with Whitlock because from about 1994-1999 it was the easiest way for a Tuck (racist) to accidentally self-identify.
huh? that post makes no sense.
Tucks loathed the brash and aggressive Whitlock and loved the over-sentimental Posnanski.
What does that have to do with racism?
Whitlock was widely disliked and is still a controversial figure in Kansas City even though he was an above average (frequently impactful) sports journalist. Whereas Posnanski was overwhelmingly well-liked while simultaneously being a pretty bad writer.
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I don't think it's fair to say Posnanski is a bad writer. I read The Machine (which is a book).
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I don't think it's fair to say Posnanski is a bad writer. I read The Machine (which is a book).
I think he's awful, and I think that's very fair based on his columns. I don't think writing a book makes him not bad, but if you want to like him, that's fine.
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nope sorry. if you dislike whitlock and like posnanski you're a racist. sorry, racist (not).
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I think he over-sentimental, sure. But over-sentimental is not synonymous with "bad", if we're talking about sportswriters, imo.
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nope sorry. if you dislike whitlock and like posnanski you're a racist. sorry, racist (not).
Not saying that I think its entirely motivated by race mostly just tuck gon' tuck. However, being black and successful and appearing to be anything less than contrite or grateful or even worse challenging the status quo (like whitlock) there is a group of people who are uncomfortable with that - whether or not they are even aware of it.
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I think he over-sentimental, sure. But over-sentimental is not synonymous with "bad", if we're talking about sportswriters, imo.
To stand out as overly sentimental among that group of windbags (sportswriters) is absolutely synonymous with "bad".
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We talking JoePa?
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nope sorry. if you dislike whitlock and like posnanski you're a racist. sorry, racist (not).
Not saying that I think its entirely motivated by race mostly just tuck gon' tuck. However, being black and successful and appearing to be anything less than contrite or grateful or even worse challenging the status quo (like whitlock) there is a group of people who are uncomfortable with that - whether or not they are even aware of it.
even if you're motives are partly motivated by race (which, as we agree, is undoubtedly the case re. our JoePa and JW hypo), you're a racist. quit letting them off the hook.
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I don't know how anyone reads any sports writer. How's that rank on the racism scale?
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I don't know how anyone reads any sports writer. How's that rank on the racism scale?
Sorry seven, that puts you at about a 7.
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Interesting how much fans and the university have embraced Sam for coming out, yet this:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/11/aclu-lawsuit-missouri-gay-marriage-ban/5390891/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/11/aclu-lawsuit-missouri-gay-marriage-ban/5390891/)
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Interesting how much fans and the university have embraced Sam for coming out, yet this:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/11/aclu-lawsuit-missouri-gay-marriage-ban/5390891/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/11/aclu-lawsuit-missouri-gay-marriage-ban/5390891/)
they are embracing him because they can't do the opposite. there are plenty of missouri red necks who are secretly pissed off about the attention mu is getting on the issue
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Interesting how much fans and the university have embraced Sam for coming out, yet this:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/11/aclu-lawsuit-missouri-gay-marriage-ban/5390891/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/11/aclu-lawsuit-missouri-gay-marriage-ban/5390891/)
Most of Missouri is horrible outside of the major cities and college towns. Probably horrified that Michael Sam "happened" to "their team."
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Interesting how much fans and the university have embraced Sam for coming out, yet this:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/11/aclu-lawsuit-missouri-gay-marriage-ban/5390891/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/11/aclu-lawsuit-missouri-gay-marriage-ban/5390891/)
Most of Missouri is horrible outside of the major cities and college towns. Probably horrified that Michael Sam "happened" to "their team."
GPC would've Chernobyl'd itself if AB or someone like him had come out.
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http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/02/kent-state-wrestler-suspended-for-mommy-tweets-aimed-at-michael-sam/#.UvqPItfDAlA.facebook
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http://deadspin.com/michael-sams-father-did-not-take-his-sons-coming-out-1521052264?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Last Tuesday, Michael Sam Sr. was at a Denny's near his home outside Dallas to celebrate his birthday when his son sent him a text message.
Dad, I'm gay, he wrote.
The party stopped cold. "I couldn't eat no more, so I went to Applebee's to have drinks," Sam Sr. said. "I don't want my grandkids raised in that kind of environment.
"I'm old-school," he added. "I'm a man and a woman type of guy." As evidence, he pointed out that he had taken an older son to Mexico to lose his virginity.
On Sunday night, just after Michael Sam announced his intention to make sports history, his father was still struggling with the news.
Sam Sr. loves his son, and he said he hoped his son made it to the N.F.L. "As a black man, we have so many hurdles to cross," he said. "This is just one he has to cross."
But he expressed discomfort at the very idea of a gay N.F.L. player, even if the player was his son. He grumbled that Deacon Jones, the Hall of Fame defensive end renowned for his toughness, "is turning over in his grave."
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ugh
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Anyone else see this as a non story? Really having a hard time caring about this one.
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Anyone else see this as a non story? Really having a hard time caring about this one.
yes, a lot of people are going out of their way to say that pike
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EDIT: The TELLING OF THE story is the story at this point, I guess.
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Dad seems like a real winner :flush:
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Anyone else see this as a non story? Really having a hard time caring about this one.
just acknowledge that it's a good thing we are on the path to gays not fearing being who they are in professional sports. no one's forcing you to care that he's gay, just appreciate the significance.
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It's a total non-story, as evidenced by the fact that it's happened many, many times before.
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Anyone else see this as a non story? Really having a hard time caring about this one.
just acknowledge that it's a good thing we are on the path to gays not fearing being who they are in professional sports. no one's forcing you to care that he's gay, just appreciate the significance.
I can get on board with this. Don't care at all passed this point though. Like I can't believe it was still on TV at lunch today.
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Anyone else see this as a non story? Really having a hard time caring about this one.
just acknowledge that it's a good thing we are on the path to gays not fearing being who they are in professional sports. no one's forcing you to care that he's gay, just appreciate the significance.
I can get on board with this. Don't care at all passed this point though. Like I can't believe it was still on TV at lunch today.
Someday, it won't be a big deal at all. We're not at that point yet.
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Its the gay dude equivalent of walking on the moon. I don't know why people are afraid to acknowledge it.
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Anyone else see this as a non story? Really having a hard time caring about this one.
just acknowledge that it's a good thing we are on the path to gays not fearing being who they are in professional sports. no one's forcing you to care that he's gay, just appreciate the significance.
I can get on board with this. Don't care at all passed this point though. Like I can't believe it was still on TV at lunch today.
Pro tip: Get used to it or stop watching football. or espn.
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Quote of the year:
Sam's father took the news hard. He said he was eating at a Denny's restaurant but had to leave after receiving the text.
"I couldn't eat no more, so I went to Applebee's to have drinks."
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denny's and applebee's in one outing. yep, hates gays.
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Anyone else see this as a non story? Really having a hard time caring about this one.
just acknowledge that it's a good thing we are on the path to gays not fearing being who they are in professional sports. no one's forcing you to care that he's gay, just appreciate the significance.
I can get on board with this. Don't care at all passed this point though. Like I can't believe it was still on TV at lunch today.
Pro tip: Get used to it or stop watching football. or espn.
Don't care
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Really feel for Michael Sam Sr
To have your son that carries your name come out, via text nonetheless. Praying for him.
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PW is at binge level 6
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did pw just make a period joke?
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Why, on this board, are gays protected. :dunno: I mean you make fun of a guy dying in plane crash, etc. The irreverence is what makes the board interesting.
But the hyper sensitivity to protecting gays, a group that is such a small percentage of the world, is weird.
I think the guy is an average NFL prospect who is suddenly on the cover of SI. He is working the american public and trying to work some NFL owner into drafting him.
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Why, on this board, are gays protected. :dunno: I mean you make fun of guy dying in plane crashes, etc. The hyper sensitivity to political correctness is weird. I personally think he is an average NFL prospect who is suddenly on the cover of SI.
it's less that gays are protected, more that outing bigots is fun
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It's outing bigots. gE is the best at it
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Why
I like you, Cooper.
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yes, the SEC defensive player of the year is trying to work some NFL team into drafting him
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We out people who hate minorities and even other religions.
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I didn't realize he was SEC defensive player of the year. I read he was projected as a mid round selection. He probably would have been on the cover of SI anyway.
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I didn't realize he was SEC defensive player of the year. I read he was projected as a mid round selection. He probably would have been on the cover of SI anyway.
so you seem upset he's on the cover of SI. why? is his story not significant?
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I think it was more of a business decision than a courageous act. I don't care about his sexual orientation.
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I think it was more of a business decision than a courageous act. I don't care about his sexual orientation.
not hiding his sexuality was a business decision. k.
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I think it was more of a business decision than a courageous act. I don't care about his sexual orientation.
what's your opinion of Tebow? business-savvy opportunist?
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The old "declare yourself gay to boost your NFL draft stock" trick ain't fooling Cooper
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The old "declare yourself gay to boost your NFL draft stock" trick ain't fooling Cooper
Michael Sam is straight and just made up this whole gay thing for the $$$ and Tim Tebow is probably an atheist.
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I didn't realize he was SEC defensive player of the year. I read he was projected as a mid round selection. He probably would have been on the cover of SI anyway.
Arthur Brown as Big 12 DPOY last year, and projected late 1st - early 2nd. You think he would have been drafter earlier if he had announced he was gay?
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The old "declare yourself gay to boost your NFL draft stock" trick ain't fooling Cooper
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In this new age, it's nice that the Omaha World-Herald is there to remind everyone that above all else, Nebraska football rules.
Keep in mind this was 2003. This was a mere five years after two men had kidnapped a 21-year-old college student named Matthew Shepard in nearby Wyoming, tied him to a fence post and bludgeoned him with such violence that the passing bicyclist who found the fatally beaten young gay man there at first mistook him for a scarecrow.
And this was the locker room, of all places. Where we wash off the blood and sweat after we crush Kansas State and Texas Tech, and where we talk about girls, and where we call a gay man what he really is. Right?
http://www.omaha.com/article/20140216/HUSKERS/140219007/1685#hansen-mizzou-s-michael-sam-meet-nebraska-s-gay-pioneer
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The old "declare yourself gay to boost your NFL draft stock" trick ain't fooling Cooper
lol
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In this new age, it's nice that the Omaha World-Herald is there to remind everyone that above all else, Nebraska football rules.
Keep in mind this was 2003. This was a mere five years after two men had kidnapped a 21-year-old college student named Matthew Shepard in nearby Wyoming, tied him to a fence post and bludgeoned him with such violence that the passing bicyclist who found the fatally beaten young gay man there at first mistook him for a scarecrow.
And this was the locker room, of all places. Where we wash off the blood and sweat after we crush Kansas State and Texas Tech, and where we talk about girls, and where we call a gay man what he really is. Right?
http://www.omaha.com/article/20140216/HUSKERS/140219007/1685#hansen-mizzou-s-michael-sam-meet-nebraska-s-gay-pioneer
To be a journalist in Nebraska do you have to be willing to ignore facts the same way that some newspapers would require you to get them right?
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In this new age, it's nice that the Omaha World-Herald is there to remind everyone that above all else, Nebraska football rules.
Keep in mind this was 2003. This was a mere five years after two men had kidnapped a 21-year-old college student named Matthew Shepard in nearby Wyoming, tied him to a fence post and bludgeoned him with such violence that the passing bicyclist who found the fatally beaten young gay man there at first mistook him for a scarecrow.
And this was the locker room, of all places. Where we wash off the blood and sweat after we crush Kansas State and Texas Tech, and where we talk about girls, and where we call a gay man what he really is. Right?
http://www.omaha.com/article/20140216/HUSKERS/140219007/1685#hansen-mizzou-s-michael-sam-meet-nebraska-s-gay-pioneer
We had a gay backup kicker! :excited:
Where's the puke emoticon?
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In this new age, it's nice that the Omaha World-Herald is there to remind everyone that above all else, Nebraska football rules.
Keep in mind this was 2003. This was a mere five years after two men had kidnapped a 21-year-old college student named Matthew Shepard in nearby Wyoming, tied him to a fence post and bludgeoned him with such violence that the passing bicyclist who found the fatally beaten young gay man there at first mistook him for a scarecrow.
And this was the locker room, of all places. Where we wash off the blood and sweat after we crush Kansas State and Texas Tech, and where we talk about girls, and where we call a gay man what he really is. Right?
http://www.omaha.com/article/20140216/HUSKERS/140219007/1685#hansen-mizzou-s-michael-sam-meet-nebraska-s-gay-pioneer
To be a journalist in Nebraska do you have to be willing to ignore facts the same way that some newspapers would require you to get them right?
He didn't ignore the main fact, which was that a former husker came out on the radio this past week, necessitating a column about that fact including nebraska's football legacy.
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And seeing as the majority of America views this Sam news as good, just know that Nebraska did it first.
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he is handling this perfectly. this combine press conference is impressive.
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he is handling this perfectly. this combine press conference is impressive.
Unfornately the stop watches and free weights appear to be as "homophobic" as the scouts and GMs
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http://deadspin.com/umass-guard-derrick-gordon-comes-out-as-gay-1561288873 (http://deadspin.com/umass-guard-derrick-gordon-comes-out-as-gay-1561288873)
doesn't really feel like a big deal and i think that's a good sign
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Did the mods delete everything in here last night? What's going on? :runaway:
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Did the mods delete everything in here? What's going on?
existential stuff went to the pit
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Gotcha. Thanks!
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he should've waited til after the draft imo
Welp, i was right again
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Drafted off to STL
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The cake thing was weird. I'm sorry.
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The cake thing was weird. I'm sorry.
There was a lot that was weird and would have been weird if he was hetero. I need to know why ESPN went to a live shot of a gay bar, WTF was that?
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The cake thing was weird. I'm sorry.
There was a lot that was weird and would have been weird if he was hetero. I need to know why ESPN went to a live shot of a gay bar, WTF was that?
Absolutely. I saw people tweeting about the kiss and I thought that was a pretty cool moment, then I watched the video and was like :Ugh:
Anyone see Case McCoys tweet about the situation? What an unconfident loser.
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The cake thing was weird. I'm sorry.
There was a lot that was weird and would have been weird if he was hetero. I need to know why ESPN went to a live shot of a gay bar, WTF was that?
Absolutely. I saw people tweeting about the kiss and I thought that was a pretty cool moment, then I watched the video and was like :Ugh:
Anyone see Case McCoys tweet about the situation? What an unconfident loser.
If a straight guy and hot woman kissed that much Twitter would have blown up too, remember Jan Vesecly at the NBA draft two years ago?
What did the fugly McCoy tweet?
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Something like "ESPN are you serious? Why are you showing this?"
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Something like "ESPN are you serious? Why are you showing this?"
Watching "the kiss" probably made him feel uncomfortable. Maybe he should have put his phone down to change the channel.
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The most shocking thing that came from this Sam kiss is that way too many people are sitting at home watching the 7th rough ridin' round of the draft. Go outside losers
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The most shocking thing that came from this Sam kiss is that way too many people are sitting at home watching the 7th rough ridin' round of the draft. Go outside losers
what if my canadian friend watched the 7th round and went outside after the draft
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The most shocking thing that came from this Sam kiss is that way too many people are sitting at home watching the 7th rough ridin' round of the draft. Go outside losers
what if my canadian friend watched the 7th round and went outside after the draft
What if I was outside listening to the draft on headphones while doing yard work?
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Still very losery
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The most shocking thing that came from this Sam kiss is that way too many people are sitting at home watching the 7th rough ridin' round of the draft. Go outside losers
I spend more hours watching the draft than I do watching college football over an entire week and it baffles me.
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What I'm happiest about is that this kid was brave enough to come out, before the draft, knowing how homophobic the league is and how chickenshit most of the franchises are when dealing with any form of adversity.
I think he knew, deep down, that he had a real shot of not getting drafted. But I think it's a good first step for the sport that he was, regardless of round.
Hopefully, he makes a roster. I'll be rooting for him.
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What I'm happiest about is that this kid was brave enough to come out, before the draft, knowing how homophobic the league is and how chickenshit most of the franchises are when dealing with any form of adversity.
I think he knew, deep down, that he had a real shot of not getting drafted. But I think it's a good first step for the sport that he was, regardless of round.
Hopefully, he makes a roster. I'll be rooting for him.
He sells too many jerseys to not make the team
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What I'm happiest about is that this kid was brave enough to come out, before the draft, knowing how homophobic the league is and how chickenshit most of the franchises are when dealing with any form of adversity.
I think he knew, deep down, that he had a real shot of not getting drafted. But I think it's a good first step for the sport that he was, regardless of round.
Hopefully, he makes a roster. I'll be rooting for him.
He sells too many jerseys to not make the team
I hadnt thought of that angle.
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What I'm happiest about is that this kid was brave enough to come out, before the draft, knowing how homophobic the league is and how chickenshit most of the franchises are when dealing with any form of adversity.
I think he knew, deep down, that he had a real shot of not getting drafted. But I think it's a good first step for the sport that he was, regardless of round.
Hopefully, he makes a roster. I'll be rooting for him.
He sells too many jerseys to not make the team
I've always wondered if the profit from jersey sales of one player is enough to make a difference to pro team.
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What I'm happiest about is that this kid was brave enough to come out, before the draft, knowing how homophobic the league is and how chickenshit most of the franchises are when dealing with any form of adversity.
I think he knew, deep down, that he had a real shot of not getting drafted. But I think it's a good first step for the sport that he was, regardless of round.
Hopefully, he makes a roster. I'll be rooting for him.
He sells too many jerseys to not make the team
I've always wondered if the profit from jersey sales of one player is enough to make a difference to pro team.
I highly doubt it, maybe in a few instances.
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Jersey sales are evenly split among all teams, unless they're sold in the stadium. So, not a factor.
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Jersey sales are evenly split among all teams, unless they're sold in the stadium. So, not a factor.
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The nfl is bitb
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What I'm happiest about is that this kid was brave enough to come out, before the draft, knowing how homophobic the league is and how chickenshit most of the franchises are when dealing with any form of adversity.
I think he knew, deep down, that he had a real shot of not getting drafted. But I think it's a good first step for the sport that he was, regardless of round.
Hopefully, he makes a roster. I'll be rooting for him.
He sells too many jerseys to not make the team
I've always wondered if the profit from jersey sales of one player is enough to make a difference to pro team.
I read somewhere that he was #2 to manziel of all rookies as of last night. That could be wrong though.
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Haha I can just imagine the distress at being a Manziel fan but having to wear that ugly brown and orange.
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The gasbag some here dub BITB is making an absolute ass of himself today re: Sam.
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The gasbag some here dub BITB is making an absolute ass of himself today re: Sam.
Go on
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The gasbag some here dub BITB is making an absolute ass of himself today re: Sam.
Is this. . .english? ^
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http://www.outsports.com/2014/8/13/6000101/arizona-state-football-offensive-lineman-chip-sarafin-comes-out-as-gay (http://www.outsports.com/2014/8/13/6000101/arizona-state-football-offensive-lineman-chip-sarafin-comes-out-as-gay)
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http://www.outsports.com/2014/8/13/6000101/arizona-state-football-offensive-lineman-chip-sarafin-comes-out-as-gay (http://www.outsports.com/2014/8/13/6000101/arizona-state-football-offensive-lineman-chip-sarafin-comes-out-as-gay)
obviously coming out to help his draft stock.
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http://www.outsports.com/2014/8/13/6000101/arizona-state-football-offensive-lineman-chip-sarafin-comes-out-as-gay (http://www.outsports.com/2014/8/13/6000101/arizona-state-football-offensive-lineman-chip-sarafin-comes-out-as-gay)
looks like a guy who absolutely goes bonkers over magic: the gathering
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Would you suck a penis if it was attached to an attractive woman like this?
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That's right homophobes.
Good people - 100; Homophobes - 0
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http://www.outsports.com/2014/8/13/6000101/arizona-state-football-offensive-lineman-chip-sarafin-comes-out-as-gay (http://www.outsports.com/2014/8/13/6000101/arizona-state-football-offensive-lineman-chip-sarafin-comes-out-as-gay)
obviously coming out to help his draft stock.
SEC Defensive POY > 5th year senior OL who has never played a snap on the OL
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i've been on the "good for Michael Sam" train all along but i'm getting sick of hearing about him :frown:
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i've been on the "good for Michael Sam" train all along but i'm getting sick of hearing about him :frown:
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/2701744128/h86246350/)
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good for him. hope he gets a shot.
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Cowboys fan here... Our defense needs all the help it can get. If he can contribute it's a great pick up. Then again, I say that about everyone else Dallas signs.
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Cowboys fan here... Our defense needs all the help it can get. If he can contribute it's a great pick up. Then again, I say that about everyone else Dallas signs.
So, are you like, from Dallas?
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So, are you like, from Dallas?
:Take the Bait:
This is good stuff coming from a Duke/Yankees/Knicks fan.
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ERII you've got to be kidding
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Cowboys fan here... Our defense needs all the help it can get. If he can contribute it's a great pick up. Then again, I say that about everyone else Dallas signs.
I'm a nominal Cowboys fan myself, but I don't really follow them much anymore. The Cowboys were the first sports team that I followed (my older brother was a fan) as a kid in the 80s and I enjoyed them through the glory years in the 90s, but as Jones has continued to prove himself to be way too involved with the football operations my interested waned. To be fair, my interest in the NFL has fallen in general for the last decade. It looks like they'll be pretty terrible this year though, especially on defense.
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Cowboys fan here... Our defense needs all the help it can get. If he can contribute it's a great pick up. Then again, I say that about everyone else Dallas signs.
I'm a nominal Cowboys fan myself, but I don't really follow them much anymore. The Cowboys were the first sports team that I followed (my older brother was a fan) as a kid in the 80s and I enjoyed them through the glory years in the 90s, but as Jones has continued to prove himself to be way too involved with the football operations my interested waned. To be fair, my interest in the NFL has fallen in general for the last decade. It looks like they'll be pretty terrible this year though, especially on defense.
Always assumed KSU_FAN and Stan Weber were the same person. Now confirmed.
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Cowboys fan here... Our defense needs all the help it can get. If he can contribute it's a great pick up. Then again, I say that about everyone else Dallas signs.
So, are you like, from Dallas?
:lol:
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Always assumed KSU_FAN and Stan Weber were the same person. Now confirmed.
:peek: :buh-bye:
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Cowboys fan here... Our defense needs all the help it can get. If he can contribute it's a great pick up. Then again, I say that about everyone else Dallas signs.
I'm a nominal Cowboys fan myself, but I don't really follow them much anymore. The Cowboys were the first sports team that I followed (my older brother was a fan) as a kid in the 80s and I enjoyed them through the glory years in the 90s, but as Jones has continued to prove himself to be way too involved with the football operations my interested waned. To be fair, my interest in the NFL has fallen in general for the last decade. It looks like they'll be pretty terrible this year though, especially on defense.
Jerry Jones is a clown. Hopefully this is the year they finally bottom out instead of going 8-8 and missing the playoffs with a Week 17 loss. Those have been pretty brutal the last three years...
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pretty great bbs'n by ERII here
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100K to practice? Would take!
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I have never heard of Derrick Coleman before.
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I have never heard of Derrick Coleman before.
good one!
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Even Wacky's memes have typos
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Affect
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Affect
Roger.
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Affect
Roger.
:D
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the owner of the @NFL_MEMES account is literally the second worst person in the world.
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the owner of the @NFL_MEMES account is literally the second worst person in the world.
Who's #1? :confused:
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the owner of the @NFL_MEMES account is literally the second worst person in the world.
Who's #1? :confused:
The person who graded Hitler's art school entrance exam.
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In my head an interview with Derrick Coleman goes the same way as that geico commercial with the owls, so the media is really rough ridin' this up
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Being gay? because he is gay.
Suffers from being deaf? Is deaf.
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the owner of the @NFL_MEMES account is literally the second worst person in the world.
Who's #1? :confused:
The person who graded Hitler's art school entrance exam.
:lol:
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I have never heard of Derrick Coleman before.
I hadn't heard of him either until the duracell commercial.
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maybe he doesn't suffer from being deaf
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Welp
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/11739971/dallas-cowboys-waive-michael-sam-first-openly-gay-player-drafted-practice-squad (http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/11739971/dallas-cowboys-waive-michael-sam-first-openly-gay-player-drafted-practice-squad)