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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: Headinjun on January 04, 2014, 11:36:54 PM
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I think we can.
If Foster, Ewindu, and Thomas turn out to be EMAW then we'll have no choice.
Maybe he's learned.
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If it's The kind of accept where I love the team and love winning but still laugh at him and say mean things about him, then of course.
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yeah just enjoy the ride. he's got a short rough ridin' leash, tho
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If it's The kind of accept where I love the team and love winning but still laugh at him and say mean things about him, then of course.
That's what I was thinking.
Winning just puts things into perspective.
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It's like any coach, if he sustains success he'll become "ours" and we'll grow to love his weird quirks.
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It's like any coach, if he sustains success he'll become "ours" and we'll grow to love his weird quirks.
I'm already loving his quirks. :surprised:
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It's perfectly fine to be excited about winning while still being #burnitdown
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It's perfectly fine to be excited about winning while still being #burnitdown
Interesting perspective and possibly accurate. Time will tell. We will know by the end of this season.
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The rules for BID have changed so many times, there really is no BID any longer. It's like, "Eh, do what you want and call it BID. It's all good."
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i will never accept him, but i do like winning.
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The rules for BID have changed so many times, there really is no BID any longer. It's like, "Eh, do what you want and call it BID. It's all good."
I feel like all clubs, groups, and associations on gE at some point resign themselves to the immutable law of Trim 3:16.
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I would be double excited about winning if oscar had nothing to do with this team.
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I would be double excited about winning if oscar had nothing to do with this team.
We will know at the end of this season...if not sooner. I'm still not sold on oscar. Circumstances are what circumstances are. We did not see OSU at full strength today.
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I will absolutely accept oscar, pending next Saturday around 4 o'clock
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I really loved Frank, because Frank Martin meant some tough god damned mother rough riders playing EMAW hoops and the OOD. However, I like winning way more than I like any individual player/coach, so I could deal with Brucie if he sustained this level of success.
But like others have said: short rough ridin' leash.
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Can accept winning.
Will not accept oscar as is.
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I could accept him if he keeps winning games and recruits studs like Foster and Thomas. He's still weird tho.
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I'm starting to like oscar.
It's weird guys.
I think I'm just a sucker for winning.
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It's like any coach, if he sustains success he'll become "ours" and we'll grow to love his weird quirks.
Exactly. Crap, everyone hated Snyder 2.0 until 2011 when we magically won 10 games and he was suddenly Scheme Dr. again and not old balls.
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His winning doesn't change the fact at how weird he is.
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It's like any coach, if he sustains success he'll become "ours" and we'll grow to love his weird quirks.
Exactly. Crap, everyone hated Snyder 2.0 until 2011 when we magically won 10 games and he was suddenly Scheme Dr. again and not old balls.
People have reactions to things. They're often black & white, gut-shot, emotional reactions. I went extremely negative when oscar was hired. A lot of us thought it was a horrible hire, and below where we felt the program had risen. We also loved Frank.
In time, none of that really matters. We want success, and if the coach that brings us that success has a cool personality or whatever, then that's just gravy. oscar is kind of a kooky dude, but as long as he keeps winning that's cool, and if he wins long and consistently enough he'll be our kooky dude.
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It's like any coach, if he sustains success he'll become "ours" and we'll grow to love his weird quirks.
Exactly. Crap, everyone hated Snyder 2.0 until 2011 when we magically won 10 games and he was suddenly Scheme Dr. again and not old balls.
People have reactions to things. They're often black & white, gut-shot, emotional reactions. I went extremely negative when oscar was hired. A lot of us thought it was a horrible hire, and below where we felt the program had risen. We also loved Frank.
In time, none of that really matters. We want success, and if the coach that brings us that success has a cool personality or whatever, then that's just gravy. oscar is kind of a kooky dude, but as long as he keeps winning that's cool, and if he wins long and consistently enough he'll be our kooky dude.
Agree with all this and what _Fan said. Dunno, I was so against this hire, but oscar isn't as unrelatable as I thought he would be. Seeing him and Nino share a laugh right before Nino nails 2 free throws to ice a victory over a top 10 team has a way of changing one's perspective.
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I will accept oscar as long as Lowery is always right by his side.
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I will accept him once he does something in the NCAA Tournament. I still can't get the La Salle loss out of my head yet.
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I'm starting to like EMAW Hoops again. I don't know what it means to accept oscar.
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I rough ridin' still hate oscar. I am so conflicted.
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It's like any coach, if he sustains success he'll become "ours" and we'll grow to love his weird quirks.
Exactly. Crap, everyone hated Snyder 2.0 until 2011 when we magically won 10 games and he was suddenly Scheme Dr. again and not old balls.
People have reactions to things. They're often black & white, gut-shot, emotional reactions. I went extremely negative when oscar was hired. A lot of us thought it was a horrible hire, and below where we felt the program had risen. We also loved Frank.
In time, none of that really matters. We want success, and if the coach that brings us that success has a cool personality or whatever, then that's just gravy. oscar is kind of a kooky dude, but as long as he keeps winning that's cool, and if he wins long and consistently enough he'll be our kooky dude.
Agree with all this and what _Fan said. Dunno, I was so against this hire, but oscar isn't as unrelatable as I thought he would be. Seeing him and Nino share a laugh right before Nino nails 2 free throws to ice a victory over a top 10 team has a way of changing one's perspective.
I don't like Nino.
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I'm still very :dubious: about oscar. That was a pretty great win though. :bball:
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I will accept oscar as long as Lowery is always right by his side.
Insightful. Lowery is the defensive motivator. I don't know who is landing these recruits like Foster, Westicles, Thomas, Edwards and Hurt, but somebody is getting them to buy in. :dunno:
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I don't like Nino.
:sdeek:
eff you!
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Beating top 10 squads will have me wearing a oscar Weber T-Shirt and sending him Christmas cards (I'll bet he would send one back).
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I love winning.
If oscar can win I may not hate him.
btw can we get one of these :billdance: with oscar clapping like the gif?
tia
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It's like any coach, if he sustains success he'll become "ours" and we'll grow to love his weird quirks.
Exactly. Crap, everyone hated Snyder 2.0 until 2011 when we magically won 10 games and he was suddenly Scheme Dr. again and not old balls.
People have reactions to things. They're often black & white, gut-shot, emotional reactions. I went extremely negative when oscar was hired. A lot of us thought it was a horrible hire, and below where we felt the program had risen. We also loved Frank.
In time, none of that really matters. We want success, and if the coach that brings us that success has a cool personality or whatever, then that's just gravy. oscar is kind of a kooky dude, but as long as he keeps winning that's cool, and if he wins long and consistently enough he'll be our kooky dude.
Agree with all this and what _Fan said. Dunno, I was so against this hire, but oscar isn't as unrelatable as I thought he would be. Seeing him and Nino share a laugh right before Nino nails 2 free throws to ice a victory over a top 10 team has a way of changing one's perspective.
I don't like Nino.
Nino isn't good but really helped with Southwell in foul trouble.
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Wow. Nino was very good yesterday.
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Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce
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oscar is an odd situation because of the way we got him and I can't blame anyone for being cautious for buying in on #bruceketball. And mich is right, its really too early to draw any tangible conclusions on his success; we still remember (and should) the La Salle game and even the NC and Charlotte games this season. However, its also tough not to be happy after a top 10 win and another recent top 25 win while the team is playing its best basketball of the season.
The point about Snyder in this thread is valid as well, we love Snyder because he wins and his bizarro personality (he has to be one of the strangest successful football coaches ever) is just part of it now. Even Frank with his toughness was strange with his constant math teacher comments and tornament and repeated (and repeated) talking points during the season, but we loved him because he won.
If 4 years from now we're looking at 4 straight NCAAs (and a nice run or two) led by oscar's first core class of Foster, Thomas, Westicles, and Johnson we'll eat up all of his weirdness and faces and strange voice. He'll be our weird coach and we'll love him.
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The way it ended at Illinois showed who oscar really is. In the end oscar really only cared about himself and to a lesser extent his assistants. It was all about him and not his players and not Illinois. Putting his family on stage to cry was a rough ridin' joke that was nothing more than a pity party for himself. It was all excuses as to why they lost. Even when he was trying to take some of the blame he always threw something else in there like "It's my fault I let the pressure to recruit certain players dictate how I recruited". That's the person he is. I can appreciate the wins he gives us, but I don't like him as a person.
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The way it ended at Illinois showed who oscar really is. In the end oscar really only cared about himself and to a lesser extent his assistants. It was all about him and not his players and not Illinois. Putting his family on stage to cry was a rough ridin' joke that was nothing more than a pity party for himself. It was all excuses as to why they lost. Even when he was trying to take some of the blame he always threw something else in there like "It's my fault I let the pressure to recruit certain players dictate how I recruited". That's the person he is. I can appreciate the wins he gives us, but I don't like him as a person.
Hiring a fired coach and one that showed a lack of accepting responsibility is what drove me mad. That said, I think his family on stage was just an example of his awkwardness and inability to read social situations. I don't think it was to throw a pity party.
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I will accept oscar as long as Lowery is always right by his side.
Insightful. Lowery is the defensive motivator. I don't know who is landing these recruits like Foster, Westicles, Thomas, Edwards and Hurt, but somebody is getting them to buy in. :dunno:
I love Lowery, especially his Twitter account. He usually posts only one or two words followed by several !'s. It makes me :lol: every time.
He also happens to be a defensive genius.
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I will accept oscar as long as Lowery is always right by his side.
They are showing that they work better as a team. Are you saying that after a run of three or four NCAA appearances with a top-4 seed or two thrown in, that you would immediately go fuming with hate for oscar if Lowery would take another job?
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I will accept oscar as long as Lowery is always right by his side.
They are showing that they work better as a team. Are you saying that after a run of three or four NCAA appearances with a top-4 seed or two thrown in, that you would immediately go fuming with hate for oscar if Lowery would take another job?
His leash would shorten immensely.
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The idea that oscar and Lowery are some sort of magic potion is pretty adorable.
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The idea that oscar and Lowery are some sort of magic potion is pretty adorable.
How else could you possibly explain it?
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Chet is the best coach on the staff
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Chet is the best coach on the staff
Yes. Pay Chet.
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The idea that oscar and Lowery are some sort of magic potion is pretty adorable.
How else could you possibly explain it?
The players they had were best when they were together.
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Weber and Lowrey are an adorable duo. I love it when Lowrey gives Weber a breakdown at the beginning of a timeout and their faces are inches apart with Weber listening intently and giving quick, little head nods.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B_bgyb6JNU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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The idea that oscar and Lowery are some sort of magic potion is pretty adorable.
How else could you possibly explain it?
The players they had were best when they were together.
:lol:
No really, how would you explain it?
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eff oscar WEBER AND eff ALL THE MORONS THAT THINK HE IS A GOOD COACH. HOPE ALL OF YOU GET FULL BLOW AIDS.
(THROWS MIC OFF OF YOUR TAINT)
powercat_pat :thumbsup: this
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eff oscar WEBER AND eff ALL THE MORONS THAT THINK HE IS A GOOD COACH. HOPE ALL OF YOU GET FULL BLOW AIDS.
(THROWS MIC OFF OF YOUR TAINT)
'grats, buddy
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It's like any coach, if he sustains success he'll become "ours" and we'll grow to love his weird quirks.
Exactly. Crap, everyone hated Snyder 2.0 until 2011 when we magically won 10 games and he was suddenly Scheme Dr. again and not old balls.
People have reactions to things. They're often black & white, gut-shot, emotional reactions. I went extremely negative when oscar was hired. A lot of us thought it was a horrible hire, and below where we felt the program had risen. We also loved Frank.
In time, none of that really matters. We want success, and if the coach that brings us that success has a cool personality or whatever, then that's just gravy. oscar is kind of a kooky dude, but as long as he keeps winning that's cool, and if he wins long and consistently enough he'll be our kooky dude.
We thought it was a bad hire because it was a bad hire. I don't care if Weber goes on to be Wooden, at the time of his hire it was a horrendous decision that the athletic director couldn't himself reasonably justify at the introductory press conference. He has exceeded our expectations in 1 1/3 seasons, so that makes me very happy but it is going to take a lot more to make people forget about the nature of his hiring. He is still the guy who was hired to take over a top 25 program days after he was fired from a similar program for performance.
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It's like any coach, if he sustains success he'll become "ours" and we'll grow to love his weird quirks.
Exactly. Crap, everyone hated Snyder 2.0 until 2011 when we magically won 10 games and he was suddenly Scheme Dr. again and not old balls.
People have reactions to things. They're often black & white, gut-shot, emotional reactions. I went extremely negative when oscar was hired. A lot of us thought it was a horrible hire, and below where we felt the program had risen. We also loved Frank.
In time, none of that really matters. We want success, and if the coach that brings us that success has a cool personality or whatever, then that's just gravy. oscar is kind of a kooky dude, but as long as he keeps winning that's cool, and if he wins long and consistently enough he'll be our kooky dude.
We thought it was a bad hire because it was a bad hire. I don't care if Weber goes on to be Wooden, at the time of his hire it was a horrendous decision that the athletic director couldn't himself reasonably justify at the introductory press conference. He has exceeded our expectations in 1 1/3 seasons, so that makes me very happy but it is going to take a lot more to make people forget about the nature of his hiring. He is still the guy who was hired to take over a top 25 program days after he was fired from a similar program for performance.
:cry:
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spilled milk
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It's like any coach, if he sustains success he'll become "ours" and we'll grow to love his weird quirks.
Exactly. Crap, everyone hated Snyder 2.0 until 2011 when we magically won 10 games and he was suddenly Scheme Dr. again and not old balls.
People have reactions to things. They're often black & white, gut-shot, emotional reactions. I went extremely negative when oscar was hired. A lot of us thought it was a horrible hire, and below where we felt the program had risen. We also loved Frank.
In time, none of that really matters. We want success, and if the coach that brings us that success has a cool personality or whatever, then that's just gravy. oscar is kind of a kooky dude, but as long as he keeps winning that's cool, and if he wins long and consistently enough he'll be our kooky dude.
We thought it was a bad hire because it was a bad hire. I don't care if Weber goes on to be Wooden, at the time of his hire it was a horrendous decision that the athletic director couldn't himself reasonably justify at the introductory press conference. He has exceeded our expectations in 1 1/3 seasons, so that makes me very happy but it is going to take a lot more to make people forget about the nature of his hiring. He is still the guy who was hired to take over a top 25 program days after he was fired from a similar program for performance.
:cry:
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get this guy a body bag!
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All out of body bags. Just going to have to let the bodies pile up until Saul approves a line of credit.
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It's like any coach, if he sustains success he'll become "ours" and we'll grow to love his weird quirks.
Exactly. Crap, everyone hated Snyder 2.0 until 2011 when we magically won 10 games and he was suddenly Scheme Dr. again and not old balls.
People have reactions to things. They're often black & white, gut-shot, emotional reactions. I went extremely negative when oscar was hired. A lot of us thought it was a horrible hire, and below where we felt the program had risen. We also loved Frank.
In time, none of that really matters. We want success, and if the coach that brings us that success has a cool personality or whatever, then that's just gravy. oscar is kind of a kooky dude, but as long as he keeps winning that's cool, and if he wins long and consistently enough he'll be our kooky dude.
We thought it was a bad hire because it was a bad hire. I don't care if Weber goes on to be Wooden, at the time of his hire it was a horrendous decision that the athletic director couldn't himself reasonably justify at the introductory press conference. He has exceeded our expectations in 1 1/3 seasons, so that makes me very happy but it is going to take a lot more to make people forget about the nature of his hiring. He is still the guy who was hired to take over a top 25 program days after he was fired from a similar program for performance.
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KSUblacklab is the best thing to ever happen to #teamBruuuuce
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We thought it was a bad hire because it was a bad hire. I don't care if Weber goes on to be Wooden, at the time of his hire it was a horrendous decision that the athletic director couldn't himself reasonably justify at the introductory press conference. He has exceeded our expectations in 1 1/3 seasons, so that makes me very happy but it is going to take a lot more to make people forget about the nature of his hiring. He is still the guy who was hired to take over a top 25 program days after he was fired from a similar program for performance.
100% this.
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We thought it was a bad hire because it was a bad hire. I don't care if Weber goes on to be Wooden, at the time of his hire it was a horrendous decision that the athletic director couldn't himself reasonably justify at the introductory press conference. He has exceeded our expectations in 1 1/3 seasons, so that makes me very happy but it is going to take a lot more to make people forget about the nature of his hiring. He is still the guy who was hired to take over a top 25 program days after he was fired from a similar program for performance.
100% this.
Thanks you Make it rain's sock.
#bostonTshirtfansunite
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:sdeek: :lol:
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reenactment of every blacklab post:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yx1LYeJcuw&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D6Yx1LYeJcuw (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yx1LYeJcuw)
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reenactment of every blacklab post:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yx1LYeJcuw&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D6Yx1LYeJcuw (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yx1LYeJcuw)
:love:
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We thought it was a bad hire because it was a bad hire. I don't care if Weber goes on to be Wooden, at the time of his hire it was a horrendous decision that the athletic director couldn't himself reasonably justify at the introductory press conference. He has exceeded our expectations in 1 1/3 seasons, so that makes me very happy but it is going to take a lot more to make people forget about the nature of his hiring. He is still the guy who was hired to take over a top 25 program days after he was fired from a similar program for performance.
100% this.
Thanks you Make it rain's sock.
#bostonTshirtfansunite
Oh, I'm not a Boston fan, nor a sock of MIR. Just agree with him that is was a terrible hire, but some how it seems to have worked out. Currie looks like a genius, but in reality, he is just really damn lucky.
Better to be lucky than good, tho.
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reenactment of every blacklab post:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yx1LYeJcuw&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D6Yx1LYeJcuw (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yx1LYeJcuw)
Tobias jus keeps getting stuff perfect
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reenactment of every blacklab post:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yx1LYeJcuw&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D6Yx1LYeJcuw (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yx1LYeJcuw)
Tobias jus keeps getting stuff perfect
Routinely has me lol'ing
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It's like any coach, if he sustains success he'll become "ours" and we'll grow to love his weird quirks.
Exactly. Crap, everyone hated Snyder 2.0 until 2011 when we magically won 10 games and he was suddenly Scheme Dr. again and not old balls.
People have reactions to things. They're often black & white, gut-shot, emotional reactions. I went extremely negative when oscar was hired. A lot of us thought it was a horrible hire, and below where we felt the program had risen. We also loved Frank.
In time, none of that really matters. We want success, and if the coach that brings us that success has a cool personality or whatever, then that's just gravy. oscar is kind of a kooky dude, but as long as he keeps winning that's cool, and if he wins long and consistently enough he'll be our kooky dude.
We thought it was a bad hire because it was a bad hire. I don't care if Weber goes on to be Wooden, at the time of his hire it was a horrendous decision that the athletic director couldn't himself reasonably justify at the introductory press conference. He has exceeded our expectations in 1 1/3 seasons, so that makes me very happy but it is going to take a lot more to make people forget about the nature of his hiring. He is still the guy who was hired to take over a top 25 program days after he was fired from a similar program for performance.
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You clearly didn't understand the post, dummy
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^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm the goat. You are the little boy who keeps trying to get up.
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^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm the goat. You are the little boy who keeps trying to get up.
:Wha:
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Here's a question that was brought up last night that really made me think (thanks stud boss John Kurtz): If Weber took a job somewhere else after this season, knowing Currie was going to make the new hire, would you be happy (assuming it wasn't Pearl, of course)?
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Here's a question that was brought up last night that really made me think (thanks stud boss John Kurtz): If Weber took a job somewhere else after this season, knowing Currie was going to make the new hire, would you be happy (assuming it wasn't Pearl, of course)?
At this point, today, yes I would be.
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Here's a question that was brought up last night that really made me think (thanks stud boss John Kurtz): If Weber took a job somewhere else after this season, knowing Currie was going to make the new hire, would you be happy (assuming it wasn't Pearl, of course)?
At this point, today, yes I would be.
Does that change if we make the NCAA tournament this year? Because thinking back I'm pretty sure that was the actual question.
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Here's a question that was brought up last night that really made me think (thanks stud boss John Kurtz): If Weber took a job somewhere else after this season, knowing Currie was going to make the new hire, would you be happy (assuming it wasn't Pearl, of course)?
Yes because the campaigning for our guy Doug would be so amazingly fun
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Here's a question that was brought up last night that really made me think (thanks stud boss John Kurtz): If Weber took a job somewhere else after this season, knowing Currie was going to make the new hire, would you be happy (assuming it wasn't Pearl, of course)?
At this point, today, yes I would be.
Does that change if we make the NCAA tournament this year? Because thinking back I'm pretty sure that was the actual question.
That would change my answer because at that point I would expect NCAA tournament births at least until this freshman class is gone. If oscar leaves we can't guarantee they will stay which also means we can't guarantee getting players as good.
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Here's a question that was brought up last night that really made me think (thanks stud boss John Kurtz): If Weber took a job somewhere else after this season, knowing Currie was going to make the new hire, would you be happy (assuming it wasn't Pearl, of course)?
I would be upset because I think our freshmen would leave. I really want to see what they can become.
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He's done much better than expected, but I think there are three benchmarks that he has to meet before a number of BiDers (sans kougar24)/FENCErs fully accept the guy:
1. Have sustained success in the NCAA torn-a-ment (Round of 32 almost every year with years of Sweet 16/ Elite 8 sprinkled in)
2. Have consistent success with his own recruits
3. Not crap our pants every year in AFH
#2 looks fairly promising if he can keep bringing in athletes like Foster, Jevon, etc. #1 and #3 are what I'm the most skeptical about but there's still time for oscar to prove himself there. He's done a great job of helping turning this team into a potential Top 25 squad after the dumpster fire losses and the Angel defection to start the season, and I think that'll be enough to get some of the skeptics here (like me) interested again. That's a start.
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I would really like some top 150 recruits at some point. I am very happy with Jevon and Foster of course, but I doubt he can get finds like that every year.
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He's done much better than expected, but I think there are three benchmarks that he has to meet before a number of BiDers (sans kougar24)/FENCErs fully accept the guy:
1. Have sustained success in the NCAA torn-a-ment (Round of 32 almost every year with years of Sweet 16/ Elite 8 sprinkled in)
2. Have consistent success with his own recruits
3. Not crap our pants every year in AFH
#2 looks fairly promising if he can keep bringing in athletes like Foster, Jevon, etc. #1 and #3 are what I'm the most skeptical about but there's still time for oscar to prove himself there. He's done a great job of helping turning this team into a potential Top 25 squad after the dumpster fire losses and the Angel defection to start the season, and I think that'll be enough to get some of the skeptics here (like me) interested again. That's a start.
number 3 has never and will never be of any significance. Bob and Frank both experienced it.
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He's done much better than expected, but I think there are three benchmarks that he has to meet before a number of BiDers (sans kougar24)/FENCErs fully accept the guy:
1. Have sustained success in the NCAA torn-a-ment (Round of 32 almost every year with years of Sweet 16/ Elite 8 sprinkled in)
2. Have consistent success with his own recruits
3. Not crap our pants every year in AFH
#2 looks fairly promising if he can keep bringing in athletes like Foster, Jevon, etc. #1 and #3 are what I'm the most skeptical about but there's still time for oscar to prove himself there. He's done a great job of helping turning this team into a potential Top 25 squad after the dumpster fire losses and the Angel defection to start the season, and I think that'll be enough to get some of the skeptics here (like me) interested again. That's a start.
number 3 has never and will never be of any significance. Bob and Frank both experienced it.
I think #1 and #2 are very important and #3 is more of an added bonus. He certainly doesn't *have* to win there to get acceptance here, but you'd be kidding yourself if you think this place wouldn't go nuts if we somehow went in and upset them in Allen (especially during a year of sustained success).
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There is no such thing as sustained success in the NCAA Tournament. The best you can hope for is consistently high seeds. Eventually you will get your deep runs.
I've said it a million times if K-State could put the Frank run on repeat, I would be happy.
Seeds or NIT:
11, NIT, 2,5,8
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Wooly won in lawrence and indirectly founded LIVETRIM and we still shitcanned him.
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Wooly won in lawrence and indirectly founded LIVETRIM and we still shitcanned him.
He certainly doesn't *have* to win there to get acceptance here, but you'd be kidding yourself if you think this place wouldn't go nuts if we somehow went in and upset them in Allen (especially during a year of sustained success).
i.e. we're not a CBE team that gets a fluke win.
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I'm much closer to accepting oscar as one of us than I was a couple months ago, but I saw someone mention Gottlieb at the top of the page and it got me thinking. A fair percentage of the #bid'ers were or currently are proponents of Doug being the HC at KSU, and I think that's pretty humorous considering he was always defending Weber as a very good head coach on Petro's show. So, Doug is smart/awesome enough to be the HC at KSU, but is too stupid/lame to know who is a good head coach at this level? I guess if that mindset is the alternative then I'll just be #teambruce.
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oscar will win a lot of people off the fence after we win in Lawrence. Man that is the softest team Bill Self has ever had and it's a perfect situation for the Dobercats right now.
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You can accept oscar so long as you like the product on the court. The biggest problem at Illinoois was his teams sucked and were boring as hell to boot. If he is going to bring in guys like Foster and Thomas you are going to like the product on the court.
Just keep in mind Weber couldn't find anyone like Foster or Thomas at Illinois. There is a certain amount of flukiness to his team this year. I don't even think he was looking for guys like that for illinois. He preferred Will Spradling types.
One last thing I will say: Weber is solid at xs and os. He just sucks at picking players. But he is going to coach the pantsof guys like Drew and Ford. Those guys are clueless.
Good luck this year, go emaw and don't give oscar another extension. He may just burn it down again.
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I'm much closer to accepting oscar as one of us than I was a couple months ago, but I saw someone mention Gottlieb at the top of the page and it got me thinking. A fair percentage of the #bid'ers were or currently are proponents of Doug being the HC at KSU, and I think that's pretty humorous considering he was always defending Weber as a very good head coach on Petro's show. So, Doug is smart/awesome enough to be the HC at KSU, but is too stupid/lame to know who is a good head coach at this level? I guess if that mindset is the alternative then I'll just be #teambruce.
Remember LOL'n about the "couldn't find anyone with a bad thing to say about oscar" stuff?
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I'm much closer to accepting oscar as one of us than I was a couple months ago, but I saw someone mention Gottlieb at the top of the page and it got me thinking. A fair percentage of the #bid'ers were or currently are proponents of Doug being the HC at KSU, and I think that's pretty humorous considering he was always defending Weber as a very good head coach on Petro's show. So, Doug is smart/awesome enough to be the HC at KSU, but is too stupid/lame to know who is a good head coach at this level? I guess if that mindset is the alternative then I'll just be #teambruce.
Remember LOL'n about the "couldn't find anyone with a bad thing to say about oscar" stuff?
I must have missed that, is that what Gottlieb said when Weber was hired?
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I'm much closer to accepting oscar as one of us than I was a couple months ago, but I saw someone mention Gottlieb at the top of the page and it got me thinking. A fair percentage of the #bid'ers were or currently are proponents of Doug being the HC at KSU, and I think that's pretty humorous considering he was always defending Weber as a very good head coach on Petro's show. So, Doug is smart/awesome enough to be the HC at KSU, but is too stupid/lame to know who is a good head coach at this level? I guess if that mindset is the alternative then I'll just be #teambruce.
Remember LOL'n about the "couldn't find anyone with a bad thing to say about oscar" stuff?
I must have missed that, is that what Gottlieb said when Weber was hired?
No, it's what currie said about hiring oscar and we all lol'd about what a stupid talking point that was because hoops people aren't going to talk bad about hoops people, at least not while publicly real-life @'n them.
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@kfvsnews: Todd Richards here. SIU Sports Info Director tells me basketball team will spend night on bus after getting stuck in a ditch near Champaign
:frown:
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Just finished watching the Wake Forest-UNC game. I never thought I would find a collegiate head basketball coach more awkward than Brucie until I watched the halftime and post game interviews of Jeff Bzdelik. My lord is that guy on another level of quirkiness. He said that one strength in the first half was his team's rebounding, yet the Deacons gave up something like 15 offensive rebounds. He continued to mention it after they won the game. When asked how his team was able to hold of the Heels he went on to say they played "solid" and stuttered through how big of a win it was for "Wake Forest nation". He has got to be some sort of X's and O's savant because he can't spit out more than a sentence without getting confused. Also, one of the announcers mentioned they have 11 sophomores on the team. How would a program ever recover from that without some serious Brucings? Unbelievably enough, he makes me feel blessed that we have Weber at the helm.
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@kfvsnews: Todd Richards here. SIU Sports Info Director tells me basketball team will spend night on bus after getting stuck in a ditch near Champaign
:frown:
They'll freeze to death
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Just finished watching the Wake Forest-UNC game. I never thought I would find a collegiate head basketball coach more awkward than Brucie until I watched the halftime and post game interviews of Jeff Bzdelik. My lord is that guy on another level of quirkiness. He said that one strength in the first half was his team's rebounding, yet the Deacons gave up something like 15 offensive rebounds. He continued to mention it after they won the game. When asked how his team was able to hold of the Heels he went on to say they played "solid" and stuttered through how big of a win it was for "Wake Forest nation". He has got to be some sort of X's and O's savant because he can't spit out more than a sentence without getting confused. Also, one of the announcers mentioned they have 11 sophomores on the team. How would a program ever recover from that without some serious Brucings? Unbelievably enough, he makes me feel blessed that we have Weber at the helm.
Dementia?
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Just finished watching the Wake Forest-UNC game. I never thought I would find a collegiate head basketball coach more awkward than Brucie until I watched the halftime and post game interviews of Jeff Bzdelik. My lord is that guy on another level of quirkiness. He said that one strength in the first half was his team's rebounding, yet the Deacons gave up something like 15 offensive rebounds. He continued to mention it after they won the game. When asked how his team was able to hold of the Heels he went on to say they played "solid" and stuttered through how big of a win it was for "Wake Forest nation". He has got to be some sort of X's and O's savant because he can't spit out more than a sentence without getting confused. Also, one of the announcers mentioned they have 11 sophomores on the team. How would a program ever recover from that without some serious Brucings? Unbelievably enough, he makes me feel blessed that we have Weber at the helm.
Dementia?
Must be early onset. Very sad indeed.
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I'm much closer to accepting oscar as one of us than I was a couple months ago, but I saw someone mention Gottlieb at the top of the page and it got me thinking. A fair percentage of the #bid'ers were or currently are proponents of Doug being the HC at KSU, and I think that's pretty humorous considering he was always defending Weber as a very good head coach on Petro's show. So, Doug is smart/awesome enough to be the HC at KSU, but is too stupid/lame to know who is a good head coach at this level? I guess if that mindset is the alternative then I'll just be #teambruce.
Remember LOL'n about the "couldn't find anyone with a bad thing to say about oscar" stuff?
I must have missed that, is that what Gottlieb said when Weber was hired?
No, it's what currie said about hiring oscar and we all lol'd about what a stupid talking point that was because hoops people aren't going to talk bad about hoops people, at least not while publicly real-life @'n them.
That's true to a certain extent, but hoops folk don't always go out of their way to defend other hoops folk. Gottlieb has always defended Weber beyond what I thought he deserved. Maybe it's because Weber actually is a pretty good coach (albeit an enormous dork), and Illinois really is just a shitty place to coach. I hope that's the case because oscar ain't going anywhere #teambrucetillhestartstosuck
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I'm much closer to accepting oscar as one of us than I was a couple months ago, but I saw someone mention Gottlieb at the top of the page and it got me thinking. A fair percentage of the #bid'ers were or currently are proponents of Doug being the HC at KSU, and I think that's pretty humorous considering he was always defending Weber as a very good head coach on Petro's show. So, Doug is smart/awesome enough to be the HC at KSU, but is too stupid/lame to know who is a good head coach at this level? I guess if that mindset is the alternative then I'll just be #teambruce.
That's kind of revisionist. He did say he was a good coach, I never recall him calling Weber a "very good coach" but he also said his firing at Illinois was justified. I listened to an ESPN podcast in February of '12 right after he essentially said the team quit where Gottlieb, Dana O'Neil, and Eamon Brennan killed Weber for about 30 minutes. He was also critical of him pretty much all last season with regard to how he used the players especially JO. I took his praise of Weber as pretty general, and you can't expect him to kill the new head coach on 810 in Kansas City after he publicly lobbied for the job and then returned to the booth after he didn't get it.
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I'm much closer to accepting oscar as one of us than I was a couple months ago, but I saw someone mention Gottlieb at the top of the page and it got me thinking. A fair percentage of the #bid'ers were or currently are proponents of Doug being the HC at KSU, and I think that's pretty humorous considering he was always defending Weber as a very good head coach on Petro's show. So, Doug is smart/awesome enough to be the HC at KSU, but is too stupid/lame to know who is a good head coach at this level? I guess if that mindset is the alternative then I'll just be #teambruce.
That's kind of revisionist. He did say he was a good coach, I never recall him calling Weber a "very good coach" but he also said his firing at Illinois was justified. I listened to an ESPN podcast in February of '12 right after he essentially said the team quit where Gottlieb, Dana O'Neil, and Eamon Brennan killed Weber for about 30 minutes. He was also critical of him pretty much all last season with regard to how he used the players especially JO. I took his praise of Weber as pretty general, and you can't expect him to kill the new head coach on 810 in Kansas City after he publicly lobbied for the job and then returned to the booth after he didn't get it.
What I'm referring to was during his tenure at Illinois. Even when he was having some subpar seasons at Illinois, Gottlieb would continually defend Weber to Petro, and would extoll his virtues quite often. I haven't listened to 810 much at all over the past 2-3 years, so I have no idea what he's said about oscar when he was fired from Illinois or what his opinion of him has been while he's been at KSU. I just always thought it was odd that he would go out of his way so often to let Petro know that he was wrong about Weber.
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Guys, lot of weird successful coaches. Snyder is weird as eff. For instance.
If he wins, who gives a eff.
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Guys, lot of weird successful coaches. Snyder is weird as eff. For instance.
If he wins, who gives a eff.
If Snyder offered to give your kids a ride home in his van you'd think it cute... if Weber tried the same thing...
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@kfvsnews: Todd Richards here. SIU Sports Info Director tells me basketball team will spend night on bus after getting stuck in a ditch near Champaign
:frown:
They'll freeze to death
Alive 2: Highway to Hell. Or something.
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@kfvsnews: Todd Richards here. SIU Sports Info Director tells me basketball team will spend night on bus after getting stuck in a ditch near Champaign
:frown:
They'll freeze to death
Alive 2: Highway to Hell. Or something.
There was nothing to worry about, one of my favorite Wildcats of all time, Anthony Beane, held down the fort (bus) until the tow truck arrived.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2014/01/05/southern-illinois-basketball-team-stranded-in-snow-storm/4334033/
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I'm much closer to accepting oscar as one of us than I was a couple months ago, but I saw someone mention Gottlieb at the top of the page and it got me thinking. A fair percentage of the #bid'ers were or currently are proponents of Doug being the HC at KSU, and I think that's pretty humorous considering he was always defending Weber as a very good head coach on Petro's show. So, Doug is smart/awesome enough to be the HC at KSU, but is too stupid/lame to know who is a good head coach at this level? I guess if that mindset is the alternative then I'll just be #teambruce.
That's kind of revisionist. He did say he was a good coach, I never recall him calling Weber a "very good coach" but he also said his firing at Illinois was justified. I listened to an ESPN podcast in February of '12 right after he essentially said the team quit where Gottlieb, Dana O'Neil, and Eamon Brennan killed Weber for about 30 minutes. He was also critical of him pretty much all last season with regard to how he used the players especially JO. I took his praise of Weber as pretty general, and you can't expect him to kill the new head coach on 810 in Kansas City after he publicly lobbied for the job and then returned to the booth after he didn't get it.
What I'm referring to was during his tenure at Illinois. Even when he was having some subpar seasons at Illinois, Gottlieb would continually defend Weber to Petro, and would extoll his virtues quite often. I haven't listened to 810 much at all over the past 2-3 years, so I have no idea what he's said about oscar when he was fired from Illinois or what his opinion of him has been while he's been at KSU. I just always thought it was odd that he would go out of his way so often to let Petro know that he was wrong about Weber.
oscar is a family friend of the Gottliebs. They go way back. There's more there than just honest opinion.
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I'm much closer to accepting oscar as one of us than I was a couple months ago, but I saw someone mention Gottlieb at the top of the page and it got me thinking. A fair percentage of the #bid'ers were or currently are proponents of Doug being the HC at KSU, and I think that's pretty humorous considering he was always defending Weber as a very good head coach on Petro's show. So, Doug is smart/awesome enough to be the HC at KSU, but is too stupid/lame to know who is a good head coach at this level? I guess if that mindset is the alternative then I'll just be #teambruce.
That's kind of revisionist. He did say he was a good coach, I never recall him calling Weber a "very good coach" but he also said his firing at Illinois was justified. I listened to an ESPN podcast in February of '12 right after he essentially said the team quit where Gottlieb, Dana O'Neil, and Eamon Brennan killed Weber for about 30 minutes. He was also critical of him pretty much all last season with regard to how he used the players especially JO. I took his praise of Weber as pretty general, and you can't expect him to kill the new head coach on 810 in Kansas City after he publicly lobbied for the job and then returned to the booth after he didn't get it.
What I'm referring to was during his tenure at Illinois. Even when he was having some subpar seasons at Illinois, Gottlieb would continually defend Weber to Petro, and would extoll his virtues quite often. I haven't listened to 810 much at all over the past 2-3 years, so I have no idea what he's said about oscar when he was fired from Illinois or what his opinion of him has been while he's been at KSU. I just always thought it was odd that he would go out of his way so often to let Petro know that he was wrong about Weber.
oscar is a family friend of the Gottliebs. They go way back. There's more there than just honest opinion.
Doug's Dad setup oscar's first college coaching Job.
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I'm much closer to accepting oscar as one of us than I was a couple months ago, but I saw someone mention Gottlieb at the top of the page and it got me thinking. A fair percentage of the #bid'ers were or currently are proponents of Doug being the HC at KSU, and I think that's pretty humorous considering he was always defending Weber as a very good head coach on Petro's show. So, Doug is smart/awesome enough to be the HC at KSU, but is too stupid/lame to know who is a good head coach at this level? I guess if that mindset is the alternative then I'll just be #teambruce.
That's kind of revisionist. He did say he was a good coach, I never recall him calling Weber a "very good coach" but he also said his firing at Illinois was justified. I listened to an ESPN podcast in February of '12 right after he essentially said the team quit where Gottlieb, Dana O'Neil, and Eamon Brennan killed Weber for about 30 minutes. He was also critical of him pretty much all last season with regard to how he used the players especially JO. I took his praise of Weber as pretty general, and you can't expect him to kill the new head coach on 810 in Kansas City after he publicly lobbied for the job and then returned to the booth after he didn't get it.
What I'm referring to was during his tenure at Illinois. Even when he was having some subpar seasons at Illinois, Gottlieb would continually defend Weber to Petro, and would extoll his virtues quite often. I haven't listened to 810 much at all over the past 2-3 years, so I have no idea what he's said about oscar when he was fired from Illinois or what his opinion of him has been while he's been at KSU. I just always thought it was odd that he would go out of his way so often to let Petro know that he was wrong about Weber.
oscar is a family friend of the Gottliebs. They go way back. There's more there than just honest opinion.
That makes WAY more sense now.
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is oscar responsible for putting 700 pinned threads at the top of the bball board? if so, :curse: at oscar
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is oscar responsible for putting 700 pinned threads at the top of the bball board? if so, :curse: at oscar
I can remove mine if its a problem.
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no i love those, but maybe we can combine the ADV stats and Four Factors threads?
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I will accept oscar as long as Lowery is always right by his side.
Insightful. Lowery is the defensive motivator. I don't know who is landing these recruits like Foster, Westicles, Thomas, Edwards and Hurt, but somebody is getting them to buy in. :dunno:
I love Lowery, especially his Twitter account. He usually posts only one or two words followed by several !'s. It makes me :lol: every time.
He also happens to be a defensive genius.
Chris Lowery ?@CoachLoweryKSU 10m
Cold & Windy!!
I always imagine him saying things like this like Ollie Williams on Family Guy.
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Let's evaluate positives and negatives.
FACT: oscar has the best winning percentage in KSU basketball history.
FACT: oscar's first team won KSU's first conference title since 1980.
FACT: oscar was upset by LaSalle in his first NCAA game at KSU.
FACTish: oscar's first team was led by Frank recruits.
FACTish: oscar's second team is led by his own recruits.
FACT: oscar has a lifetime .679 winning percentage and has been national coach of the year.
FACT: oscar has been fired.
2 notes: (1) I hadn't read the Mellinger article when I posted this; (2) I am not Mellinger.
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I accept oscar right now. As is.
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FACT: people named oscar typically are amazing at life/their jobs, and even more specifically, people named oscar W.
the hero we deserve? CHECK
yippee ki yay mother rough rider? CHECK
enter the dragon? CHECK
don't make me angry? CHECK
c'mon chen? CHECK
evil dead slash burn notice? CHECK CHECK
iron maiden? CHECK
the boss? CHECK
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.exposay.com%2Fcelebrity-photos%2Foscar-vilanch-confidence-movie-premiere-S5NroK.jpg&hash=72598d3126b0be4ac8290d9cde1dc3e4664ff28c) CHECK
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:lol: mocat
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I can’t accept how he does the powerclaw or w/e
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MARIJUANA!
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Shane is pure hot adultery sex
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Doing the toking doobies hand sign instead of the power claw or whatever it is is a million times better. This is pure genius.
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oscar has sex hair lmao
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Someone mspaint oscar into a 311 T-shirt immediately
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That’s Big Gips cousin, please 6.8 pound baby Jesus let us get him
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Big Gip is a for serious Qannon weirdo so given a shitload of our alumni are as well I like our odds
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Big Gip is a for serious Qannon weirdo so given a shitload of our alumni are as well I like our odds
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I’ll donate to Trump and JFK Jr’s 2024 campaign if it means this guy commits
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Clearly blazed oscar is instantly my favorite oscar
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_33 could have a field day with that one
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That is not a joint-holding hand sign. It is an "implying he or someone else is not hung" hand sign. Cmon people, in the joint sign you clearly have to adjoin your thumb and index finger, and they are more curved. Oscar gets zero points from SB for being cooler than I thought. Verdict: still not accepting oscar.