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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: ednksu on December 14, 2013, 08:21:23 PM
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Dude sounds like he's got the mentality of a 12 year old. Would take, tho.
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stud
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stud
i didn't watch or read anything, but it pretty much had to be unanimous, right?
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stud
That's what she said. :surprised:
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Rapist
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WGAF. The Heisman is meaningless
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Rapist
but only one of many.
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Who's James Winston?
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One of the few time the voters got it right, total beast!
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stud
That's what she said. :surprised:
Not true.
Rapist
THAT is what she said.
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Dude sounds like he's got the mentality of a 12 year old. Would take, tho.
Why do you think he has the mentality of a 12 year old?
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Did he really wear a hoodie to the ceremony?
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Dude sounds like he's got the mentality of a 12 year old. Would take, tho.
Why do you think he has the mentality of a 12 year old?
I said he sounds like he has the mentality of a 12 year old. Poor sentence structure, vague thoughts, etc. Pretty standard stuff for a 12 year old. That said, I have no idea how old his mentality actually is.
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Dude sounds like he's got the mentality of a 12 year old. Would take, tho.
Why do you think he has the mentality of a 12 year old?
I said he sounds like he has the mentality of a 12 year old. Poor sentence structure, vague thoughts, etc. Pretty standard stuff for a 12 year old. That said, I have no idea how old his mentality actually is.
I think he gives great interviews. Upbeat guy. What's not to like :dunno:
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Dude sounds like he's got the mentality of a 12 year old. Would take, tho.
Why do you think he has the mentality of a 12 year old?
I said he sounds like he has the mentality of a 12 year old. Poor sentence structure, vague thoughts, etc. Pretty standard stuff for a 12 year old. That said, I have no idea how old his mentality actually is.
I think he gives great interviews. Upbeat guy. What's not to like :dunno:
He melted my heart when he was giving the generic PR talking points about FSU, battling, not giving up. What killed me was that he paused and said "we're Seminoles", like he may have understood the history of the tribe and being unconquered.
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Did he really wear a hoodie to the ceremony?
negative, only pic I could find quickly of him and the trophy. He was wearing that at an ESPN thing in the middle of the day.
He had a nicely cut suit, smaller lapel with a vest. Not sure on the colors though.
AJ McCarron had an awkwardly small bowtie, very not elite look for him.
Manziel was working a Merril Hoge style shirt which needed a bigger tie, didn't really pull it off. Also HORRIBLE clown shoes.
Tre Mason did well with his bowtie though. Also he has no neck. Only a series of muscle which form a trapezoid where his head rests.
Jordan Lynch did well too. nice full windsor knot I believe, good color combo. Horrible shoe choice IMO.
Andre Williams might have been runner up for best dressed.
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Did he really wear a hoodie to the ceremony?
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Did he really wear a hoodie to the ceremony?
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This comment is moot. He didn't.
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obviously deserved it. no one this year is even close.
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Agree with 7.
Unfortunately, like most good football players, dude is a mysoginist and a criminal.
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Better than JFF
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Dude sounds like he's got the mentality of a 12 year old. Would take, tho.
Why do you think he has the mentality of a 12 year old?
I said he sounds like he has the mentality of a 12 year old. Poor sentence structure, vague thoughts, etc. Pretty standard stuff for a 12 year old. That said, I have no idea how old his mentality actually is.
I think he gives great interviews. Upbeat guy. What's not to like :dunno:
You mean besides the raping?
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Innocent until proven an ape who fits the stereotype
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The girl's story had some pretty big holes in it. The presser after was in pretty poor taste and the investigation was botched all to hell but neither of those things make Winston guilty.
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The girl's story had some pretty big holes in it. The presser after was in pretty poor taste and the investigation was botched all to hell but neither of those things make Winston guilty.
Nope. The monkeys can't help themselves. Why would that beautiful blonde say yes otherwise?
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Seems like a huge douche.
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:rolleyes:
Seems like a huge douche.
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The girl's story had some pretty big holes in it. The presser after was in pretty poor taste and the investigation was botched all to hell but neither of those things make Winston guilty.
Nope. The monkeys can't help themselves. Why would that beautiful blonde say yes otherwise?
I mean... :facepalm:
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:rolleyes:
Seems like a huge douche.
:jerk:
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http://deadspin.com/why-i-believe-jameis-winstons-accuser-1479782169
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Winston sounds real southern and by that I mean dumb.
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Winston sounds real southern and by that I mean dumb.
:facepalm:
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The girl's story had some pretty big holes in it. The presser after was in pretty poor taste and the investigation was botched all to hell but neither of those things make Winston guilty.
Nope. The monkeys can't help themselves. Why would that beautiful blonde say yes otherwise?
I mean... :facepalm:
:Take the Bait:
You mean what, fanning? You wanna talk about this? I'd love to, lets do it.
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The girl's story had some pretty big holes in it. The presser after was in pretty poor taste and the investigation was botched all to hell but neither of those things make Winston guilty.
Nope. The monkeys can't help themselves. Why would that beautiful blonde say yes otherwise?
I believe the victim and it has nothing to do with race.
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The girl's story had some pretty big holes in it. The presser after was in pretty poor taste and the investigation was botched all to hell but neither of those things make Winston guilty.
Nope. The monkeys can't help themselves. Why would that beautiful blonde say yes otherwise?
I believe the victim and it has nothing to do with race.
What is it that makes you believe the victim?
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it's pretty great seeing teaminnocentuntilprovenguilty in here compared to the zimmerman trial :lol:
(i'm on that team btw)
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The girl's story had some pretty big holes in it. The presser after was in pretty poor taste and the investigation was botched all to hell but neither of those things make Winston guilty.
Nope. The monkeys can't help themselves. Why would that beautiful blonde say yes otherwise?
I believe the victim and it has nothing to do with race.
What is it that makes you believe the victim?
The facts that she had nothing whatsoever to gain by accusing Winston of rape, had blood on her shorts, had bruises consistent with rape, and called the police immediately after.
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it's pretty great seeing teaminnocentuntilprovenguilty in here compared to the zimmerman trial :lol:
(i'm on that team btw)
The standard for conviction is not the same standard that you should apply when trying to decide whether this guy is an awful human being or not.
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it's pretty great seeing teaminnocentuntilprovenguilty in here compared to the zimmerman trial :lol:
(i'm on that team btw)
The standard for conviction is not the same standard that you should apply when trying to decide whether this guy is an awful human being or not.
i agree. :cheers:
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MIR is such a dweeb
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The girl's story had some pretty big holes in it. The presser after was in pretty poor taste and the investigation was botched all to hell but neither of those things make Winston guilty.
Nope. The monkeys can't help themselves. Why would that beautiful blonde say yes otherwise?
I believe the victim and it has nothing to do with race.
You can believe the victim and not think that Jameis Winston is a rapist. I'm interested as to what you believe from the victim as some of her story is foggy and some of it has been disproven, like the fact that she was blacked out drunk at that bar.
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You gotta admit that deadspin column is pretty compelling MIR. I was compelled by it.
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it's pretty great seeing teaminnocentuntilprovenguilty in here compared to the zimmerman trial :lol:
(i'm on that team btw)
Don't be passive aggressive, its annoying. Also you are smart enough know how absurdity ridiculous and simplistic your comparison is, no matter how anyone views either case, so I'm guessing you weren't looking for a serious response.
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I like how MIR is the only poster who picks sides based solely on race 100% of the time, and simultaneously calls anyone who picks against him "racist".
What a bafoon.
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it's pretty great seeing teaminnocentuntilprovenguilty in here compared to the zimmerman trial :lol:
(i'm on that team btw)
You can be believe both Winston and Zimmerman are innocent of crime, but that both committed deplorable acts.
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I like how MIR is the only poster who picks sides based solely on race 100% of the time, and simultaneously calls anyone who picks against him "racist".
What a bafoon.
:D
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You gotta admit that deadspin column is pretty compelling MIR. I was compelled by it.
Yeah there were some compelling points, there were also points that she took some leaps and expects the reader to do the same.
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I like how MIR is the only poster who picks sides based solely on race 100% of the time, and simultaneously calls anyone who picks against him "racist".
What a bafoon.
Reading and apparently spelling is very difficult for you. I have not once said that Winston is innocent, I don't know that, just like I don't know if he's guilty. If I see someone call him a rapist I'm going to offer balance.
I speak to you from a black perspective, this board and everywhere needs it. In my world I see popular shows like Friends and Girls who seemingly manage to live in New York and don't encounter any color. I see commercials where the only black women are fat and loud and the only black men hang out with only black people. I see people who see the name Jameis Winston and think rapist but who see the name Ben Rothlisburger and think Pittsburgh Steelers. You don't like my point of view, you don't have to but I'm not going to filter how I feel for you or anyone else. I couldn't give two shits how hypocritical that makes me in your or anyone else's eyes.
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Did he really wear a hoodie to the ceremony?
negative, only pic I could find quickly of him and the trophy. He was wearing that at an ESPN thing in the middle of the day.
He had a nicely cut suit, smaller lapel with a vest. Not sure on the colors though.
AJ McCarron had an awkwardly small bowtie, very not elite look for him.
Manziel was working a Merril Hoge style shirt which needed a bigger tie, didn't really pull it off. Also HORRIBLE clown shoes.
Tre Mason did well with his bowtie though. Also he has no neck. Only a series of muscle which form a trapezoid where his head rests.
Jordan Lynch did well too. nice full windsor knot I believe, good color combo. Horrible shoe choice IMO.
Andre Williams might have been runner up for best dressed.
His tie/pocket square combo was purple. JW is secretly a Cat fan! :emawkid:
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MIR, you don't offer perspective, you offer predictable anger, outrage and accusations of racism. You're probably the biggest bigot at goE.
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And you're always angry. Cheer up, ol' chap!
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MIR, you don't offer perspective, you offer predictable anger, outrage and accusations of racism. You're probably the biggest bigot at goE.
:thumbsup:
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MIR, you don't offer perspective, you offer predictable anger, outrage and accusations of racism. You're probably the biggest bigot at goE.
:lol: that is so laughable.
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MIR, you don't offer perspective, you offer predictable anger, outrage and accusations of racism. You're probably the biggest bigot at goE.
:lol: that is so laughable.
No Fake Sugar Dick is right. If that observation came from like _FAN, for instance, I would take exception, but from know non-bigoted, level headed FSD I'll take it to heart and change my ways.
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MIR, you don't offer perspective, you offer predictable anger, outrage and accusations of racism. You're probably the biggest bigot at goE.
:lol: that is so laughable.
No Fake Sugar Dick is right. If that observation came from like _FAN, for instance, I would take exception, but from know non-bigoted, level headed FSD I'll take it to heart and change my ways.
LOL, don't lie to yourself. Jesse Jackson couldn't get you to pull back on your tired schtick.
Let's not even get into the abhorrent epithets you've posted in this thread. But yeah man, you're "perspective" is so rough ridin' unique. :flush:
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it's pretty great seeing teaminnocentuntilprovenguilty in here compared to the zimmerman trial :lol:
(i'm on that team btw)
You can be believe both Winston and Zimmerman are innocent of crime, but that both committed deplorable acts.
I can see how that could be the case with Zimmerman because the stand your ground law is just awful. I don't see how that is the case with Winston, though. I mean the only deplorable thing he did was (allegedly) rape that girl, and there is a law on the books against that.
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I like how MIR is the only poster who picks sides based solely on race 100% of the time, and simultaneously calls anyone who picks against him "racist".
What a bafoon.
I see people who see the name Jameis Winston and think rapist but who see the name Ben Rothlisburger and think Pittsburgh Steelers.
I 100% agree with this point, however, I don't think it's relevant to JW's individual case.
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I like how MIR is the only poster who picks sides based solely on race 100% of the time, and simultaneously calls anyone who picks against him "racist".
What a bafoon.
I see people who see the name Jameis Winston and think rapist but who see the name Ben Rothlisburger and think Pittsburgh Steelers.
I 100% agree with this point, however, I don't think it's relevant to JW's individual case.
really? How many times do you see broadcasters mention his prior troubles, especially in a down year on the field? JW has a bad half and its all the broadcast team talks about in the ACC Dr Pepper.
Also that Deadspin piece isn't very good at explaining the situation at all. 1/3 of the piece is just her story. Her real beef is with POS DAs like Meggs, not with JW.
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I like how MIR is the only poster who picks sides based solely on race 100% of the time, and simultaneously calls anyone who picks against him "racist".
What a bafoon.
I see people who see the name Jameis Winston and think rapist but who see the name Ben Rothlisburger and think Pittsburgh Steelers.
I 100% agree with this point, however, I don't think it's relevant to JW's individual case.
really? How many times do you see broadcasters mention his prior troubles, especially in a down year on the field? JW has a bad half and its all the broadcast team talks about in the ACC Dr Pepper.
I didn't watch that game, so I can't really comment on the broadcast team, but I would guess the recency bias plays in quite a bit.
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Rothlisburger is a rapist, too. So is Ell Roberson.
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Rothlisburger is a rapist, too. So is Ell Roberson.
No. eff you.
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I like how MIR is the only poster who picks sides based solely on race 100% of the time, and simultaneously calls anyone who picks against him "racist".
What a bafoon.
I see people who see the name Jameis Winston and think rapist but who see the name Ben Rothlisburger and think Pittsburgh Steelers.
I 100% agree with this point, however, I don't think it's relevant to JW's individual case.
really? How many times do you see broadcasters mention his prior troubles, especially in a down year on the field? JW has a bad half and its all the broadcast team talks about in the ACC Dr Pepper.
Also that Deadspin piece isn't very good at explaining the situation at all. 1/3 of the piece is just her story. Her real beef is with POS DAs like Meggs, not with JW.
She also doesn't know jack crap about the law apparently, though she was happy to bring up having been a public defender. She took issue with Meggs not interviewing JW. JW lawyered up and said no. That means no one can talk to him about it on the law enforcement side. That's the end. They can't force him to talk once he invokes and certainly not if it's through his rough ridin' attorney. Very dumb.
If prosecutors believe a victim is credible and a crime took place, their job is to advocate for the victim, build a case, and do their best to put the criminal behind bars. For crying out loud, they are AT LEAST supposed to interview the accused rapist.
Also, prosecutors don't, or at the very least should never, interview criminal suspects. Police do that. You can't try a case as a prosecutor in which you might be a witness. If she was a lawyer, then it doesn't seem she was much of one. It reads mostly like she's talking out of her ass when she discusses her professional experience. From what I've read Meggs is a rough ridin' joke, but she isn't any better. "Do things you can't do!" Doesn't help her credibility.
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I like how MIR is the only poster who picks sides based solely on race 100% of the time, and simultaneously calls anyone who picks against him "racist".
What a bafoon.
Reading and apparently spelling is very difficult for you. I have not once said that Winston is innocent, I don't know that, just like I don't know if he's guilty. If I see someone call him a rapist I'm going to offer balance.
I speak to you from a black perspective, this board and everywhere needs it. In my world I see popular shows like Friends and Girls who seemingly manage to live in New York and don't encounter any color. I see commercials where the only black women are fat and loud and the only black men hang out with only black people. I see people who see the name Jameis Winston and think rapist but who see the name Ben Rothlisburger and think Pittsburgh Steelers. You don't like my point of view, you don't have to but I'm not going to filter how I feel for you or anyone else. I couldn't give two shits how hypocritical that makes me in your or anyone else's eyes.
It took what, 2 weeks for Rothlisburger to rehabilitate his image after he sexually assaulted a woman with some help from his buds? Compare to Mike Vick who spent 21 months in prison on felony charges, was bankrupted and missed two seasons of work. Steelers are awful for keeping Ben around.
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In my world I see popular shows like Friends and Girls who seemingly manage to live in New York and don't encounter any color.
I'm pretty sure Hannah was both dating and banging a black guy for an epi or two. :party:
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In my world I see popular shows like Friends and Girls who seemingly manage to live in New York and don't encounter any color.
I'm pretty sure Hannah was both dating and banging a black guy for an epi or two. :party:
This was because she took so much criticism from season 1. She even said in an interview this was the only reason that story was included.
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In my world I see popular shows like Friends and Girls who seemingly manage to live in New York and don't encounter any color.
I'm pretty sure Hannah was both dating and banging a black guy for an epi or two. :party:
This was because she took so much criticism from season 1. She even said in an interview this was the only reason that story was included.
I'm aware. Are you suggesting that it didn't count? Black guy dated and sexed. Color. Encountered. Society prevailed.
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I like how MIR is the only poster who picks sides based solely on race 100% of the time, and simultaneously calls anyone who picks against him "racist".
What a bafoon.
I see people who see the name Jameis Winston and think rapist but who see the name Ben Rothlisburger and think Pittsburgh Steelers.
I 100% agree with this point, however, I don't think it's relevant to JW's individual case.
really? How many times do you see broadcasters mention his prior troubles, especially in a down year on the field? JW has a bad half and its all the broadcast team talks about in the ACC Dr Pepper.
Also that Deadspin piece isn't very good at explaining the situation at all. 1/3 of the piece is just her story. Her real beef is with POS DAs like Meggs, not with JW.
She also doesn't know jack crap about the law apparently, though she was happy to bring up having been a public defender. She took issue with Meggs not interviewing JW. JW lawyered up and said no. That means no one can talk to him about it on the law enforcement side. That's the end. They can't force him to talk once he invokes and certainly not if it's through his rough ridin' attorney. Very dumb.
If prosecutors believe a victim is credible and a crime took place, their job is to advocate for the victim, build a case, and do their best to put the criminal behind bars. For crying out loud, they are AT LEAST supposed to interview the accused rapist.
Also, prosecutors don't, or at the very least should never, interview criminal suspects. Police do that. You can't try a case as a prosecutor in which you might be a witness. If she was a lawyer, then it doesn't seem she was much of one. It reads mostly like she's talking out of her ass when she discusses her professional experience. From what I've read Meggs is a rough ridin' joke, but she isn't any better. "Do things you can't do!" Doesn't help her credibility.
Good points bread. I would also note the unfortunate system we have for prosecutors who face elections. I do believe that conviction % is lead towards less prosecution of good cases with less evidence. Although Meggs seems like a good ole boy POS.
http://mcimaps.com/floridas-second-circuit-state-attorney-race-how-willie-meggs-held-on/
http://the-classic-liberal.com/florida-state-senator-al-lawson-d-steals-videographers-camera/
http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/jurisprudence/2013/11/jameis_winston_the_sexual_assault_allegations_against_the_florida_state.html
I wonder how this case would have gone if there wasn't a Title IX issue involved.
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The conviction rate stuff is misleading. Some smaller offices that don't try many cases simply owing to lack of population and crime don't like to try them when they arise because they aren't experienced. They're afraid because they don't really know what they're doing. They're not trial attorneys. The get paid dick to sit around and plead out small potatos stuff. They like nothing more than to plead things down to dispose of cases. It's not about a winning percentage. It's a lack of competence and work ethic. They didn't take that job to try cases in front of juries. They took it to sit on their asses the vast majority of the time.
I've personally never once heard a prosecutor reference their conviction rate, though I'm sure there are plenty of fuckfaces out there that do. Idiots care about stupid things. It's also pointless, because if you duck cases that's the first thing your opponent is going to eff you in the press about over and over come election time. It doesn't save you. Letting crimes go uncharged is arguably far more publicly damaging than losing at trial. The public is often as or more upset with the jury. It's a hell of a lot easier to deflect blame at the end of a trial than it is if something goes uncharged. There's really no PR incentive not to take a solid case to trial generally speaking.
I don't think Meggs declined because he was worried about losing. If people thought he was guilty (and they're out there), then they're already more pissed at Meggs for letting JW walk outright. Meggs knows that. He's been around there for a long time. He's not even really a prosecutor. He's just a politician and the boss. The people that work for him are the ones that try the cases if they're to be tried. His call, but they informed his decision.
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I agree with Mr. Bread, but this is Florida, lots of weird legal crap happens there. I get the feeling nobody takes anything seriously down there, no matter which side you are on.
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In my world I see popular shows like Friends and Girls who seemingly manage to live in New York and don't encounter any color.
I'm pretty sure Hannah was both dating and banging a black guy for an epi or two. :party:
Did not watch season 2
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If we've learned anything from this, its that women should not be allowed to be attorneys.
Also, maybe I missed this, but what was the alleged victims alleged motive for allegedly fabricating her story?
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The conviction rate stuff is misleading. Some smaller offices that don't try many cases simply owing to lack of population and crime don't like to try them when they arise because they aren't experienced. They're afraid because they don't really know what they're doing. They're not trial attorneys. The get paid dick to sit around and plead out small potatos stuff. They like nothing more than to plead things down to dispose of cases. It's not about a winning percentage. It's a lack of competence and work ethic. They didn't take that job to try cases in front of juries. They took it to sit on their asses the vast majority of the time.
I've personally never once heard a prosecutor reference their conviction rate, though I'm sure there are plenty of fuckfaces out there that do. Idiots care about stupid things. It's also pointless, because if you duck cases that's the first thing your opponent is going to eff you in the press about over and over come election time. It doesn't save you. Letting crimes go uncharged is arguably far more publicly damaging than losing at trial. The public is often as or more upset with the jury. It's a hell of a lot easier to deflect blame at the end of a trial than it is if something goes uncharged. There's really no PR incentive not to take a solid case to trial generally speaking.
I don't think Meggs declined because he was worried about losing. If people thought he was guilty (and they're out there), then they're already more pissed at Meggs for letting JW walk outright. Meggs knows that. He's been around there for a long time. He's not even really a prosecutor. He's just a politician and the boss. The people that work for him are the ones that try the cases if they're to be tried. His call, but they informed his decision.
I agree with you once again, and I didn't mean to come off as all % driven. You were totally right, but at times conviction % has been used. In KS we had a particularly bitter AG races recently where those kinds of issues were brought up. Mostly in the context of why isn't X candidate prosecuting Y crime and winning more/faux outrage. But a lot of this is just the churn from politically volatile offices trying to look to elections rather than due process of law.
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The reason cases plea out is because there aren't enough resources in the world to try 10% of the crimes committed. Like district court would be completely jammed up with criminal trials that no civil matter would ever be heard, no estate closed, and there wouldn't be a court reporter for 400 miles to take a deposition. DAs are overworked and do the gig at the hope of being hired into private practice or as an USA. They generally aren't lazy or apathetic. They are also faced with an extreme burden of proof and arcane rules of evidence and procedure.
Basically, cases plead out because we've decided to bulk process criminals in the USA.
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The girl's story had some pretty big holes in it. The presser after was in pretty poor taste and the investigation was botched all to hell but neither of those things make Winston guilty.
Nope. The monkeys can't help themselves. Why would that beautiful blonde say yes otherwise?
I mean... :facepalm:
:Take the Bait:
You mean what, fanning? You wanna talk about this? I'd love to, lets do it.
I love Jameis, I think it's fishy that this got brought up when he got hot (cause I like him), but I don't see this as a race thing. More like a TMZ thing.
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The girl's story had some pretty big holes in it. The presser after was in pretty poor taste and the investigation was botched all to hell but neither of those things make Winston guilty.
Nope. The monkeys can't help themselves. Why would that beautiful blonde say yes otherwise?
I mean... :facepalm:
:Take the Bait:
You mean what, fanning? You wanna talk about this? I'd love to, lets do it.
I love Jameis, I think it's fishy that this got brought up when he got hot (cause I like him), but I don't see this as a race thing. More like a TMZ thing.
It was brought up before he ever played a down.
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The girl's story had some pretty big holes in it. The presser after was in pretty poor taste and the investigation was botched all to hell but neither of those things make Winston guilty.
Nope. The monkeys can't help themselves. Why would that beautiful blonde say yes otherwise?
I mean... :facepalm:
:Take the Bait:
You mean what, fanning? You wanna talk about this? I'd love to, lets do it.
I love Jameis, I think it's fishy that this got brought up when he got hot (cause I like him), but I don't see this as a race thing. More like a TMZ thing.
It was brought up before he ever played a down.
I never said the accusation or the investigation was influenced by race, just as I have never said he was innocent. The reaction by some after the fact, insisting that he's a rapist, is influenced by race and fame.
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Kind of rapey.
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:sdeek:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdU-dNNCEAALPuq.jpg)
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:sdeek:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdU-dNNCEAALPuq.jpg)
Is this the gal that accused JW of rape. :confused:
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:sdeek:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdU-dNNCEAALPuq.jpg)
Is this the gal that accused JW of rape. :confused:
I really doubt that.
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:sdeek:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdU-dNNCEAALPuq.jpg)
Is this the gal that accused JW of rape. :confused:
Who knows, she might have changed her mind. :dunno:
I really doubt that.
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:sdeek:
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:lol:
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:sdeek:
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you and I both :love:
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katdaddy take a lap or twenty :facepalm:
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the consensus is that he is incredibly overrated
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Yup totes overrated
You dumb
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katdaddy take a lap or twenty :facepalm:
Weren't you the one who calls people who use this(:facepalm:) as a response, a stupid dumbass. :lol:
EDIT: Nevermine, it was SD. :lol:
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@rembert: ok, i like jameis, b/c he talks like madea, bless up blesssss up
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@rembert: ok, i like jameis, b/c he talks like madea, bless up blesssss up
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He's the tits and a victim of the media. I think his interviews are great and it was well published the girl who cried rape planned on attending the game and admitted to having consensual sex with him multiple times before the supposed rape.
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:O
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqXEpHMDVi8&feature=youtu.be
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:O
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqXEpHMDVi8&feature=youtu.be
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:O
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqXEpHMDVi8&feature=youtu.be
I don't think he's smart
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The girl's story had some pretty big holes in it. The presser after was in pretty poor taste and the investigation was botched all to hell but neither of those things make Winston guilty.
Nope. The monkeys can't help themselves. Why would that beautiful blonde say yes otherwise?
I mean... :facepalm:
:Take the Bait:
You mean what, fanning? You wanna talk about this? I'd love to, lets do it.
I love Jameis, I think it's fishy that this got brought up when he got hot (cause I like him), but I don't see this as a race thing. More like a TMZ thing.
It was brought up before he ever played a down.
I never said the accusation or the investigation was influenced by race, just as I have never said he was innocent. The reaction by some after the fact, insisting that he's a rapist, is influenced by race and fame.
The race and fame card works both ways in this story. Its pretty sad that the pursuit of justice was saddled with the albatross of college athletics.
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The girl's story had some pretty big holes in it. The presser after was in pretty poor taste and the investigation was botched all to hell but neither of those things make Winston guilty.
Nope. The monkeys can't help themselves. Why would that beautiful blonde say yes otherwise?
I mean... :facepalm:
:Take the Bait:
You mean what, fanning? You wanna talk about this? I'd love to, lets do it.
I love Jameis, I think it's fishy that this got brought up when he got hot (cause I like him), but I don't see this as a race thing. More like a TMZ thing.
It was brought up before he ever played a down.
I never said the accusation or the investigation was influenced by race, just as I have never said he was innocent. The reaction by some after the fact, insisting that he's a rapist, is influenced by race and fame.
The race and fame card works both ways in this story. Its pretty sad that the pursuit of justice was saddled with the albatross of college athletics.
That, and numerous wads in the pod. :party:
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I give him a pass for the interview. Initially I was laughing, but I don't think I would do very well if they were to hand me a mic 30 seconds after winning a natty: I would talk like a lunatic.
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I give him a pass for the interview. Initially I was laughing, but I don't think I would do very well if they were to hand me a mic 30 seconds after winning a natty: I would talk like a lunatic.
Who really gives a crap how smart he is. This spring he will be a millionaire.
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I give him a pass for the interview. Initially I was laughing, but I don't think I would do very well if they were to hand me a mic 30 seconds after winning a natty: I would talk like a lunatic.
Who really gives a crap how smart he is. This spring he will be a millionaire.
Next spring
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I give him a pass for the interview. Initially I was laughing, but I don't think I would do very well if they were to hand me a mic 30 seconds after winning a natty: I would talk like a lunatic.
Who really gives a crap how smart he is. This spring he will be a millionaire.
Next spring
Pardon me, I forgot that he's a freshman. Cruse the NFL farm team system.
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I give him a pass for the interview. Initially I was laughing, but I don't think I would do very well if they were to hand me a mic 30 seconds after winning a natty: I would talk like a lunatic.
Who really gives a crap how smart he is. This spring he will be a millionaire.
Next spring
Pardon me, I forgot that he's a freshman. Cruse the NFL farm team system.
:D
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it was well published the girl who cried rape planned on attending the game and admitted to having consensual sex with him multiple times before the supposed rape.
It was? Link?
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:sdeek:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdU-dNNCEAALPuq.jpg)
Is this the gal that accused JW of rape. :confused:
Who knows, she might have changed her mind. :dunno:
I really doubt that.
it was well published the girl who cried rape planned on attending the game and admitted to having consensual sex with him multiple times before the supposed rape.
It was? Link?
:lol:
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Heading into the fourth quarter of the BCS National Championship Game in Pasadena, Florida State head coach Jimbo Fisher needed to encourage his star quarterback, Jameis Winston. The Heisman winner had been struggling mightily on the night, but his team was trailing by only eight with one quarter left to play, and Fisher knew that the Seminoles had a shot if Winston could get rolling.
So what did Fisher tell his signal-caller? “The great ones like Michael Jordan can put three bad quarters behind them and shine” — of course after that, Winston finished the game with some incredibly clutch play and threw the go-ahead touchdown with less than a minute remaining, and was named the game’s Offensive MVP.
It’s been a few days, but apparently Winston is still taking the “great ones” thing to heart. Late last night, he decided to post on Instagram an incredibly odd selfie featuring himself on the toilet with Jordan in his background, along with the following caption:
So constipated lol dang but I got greatness behind me even when I take one # realninjaish #believethat
The photo is below, presented with no further comment:
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He's a rapist and was protected by the police
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/16/sports/errors-in-inquiry-on-rape-allegations-against-fsu-jamies-winston.html?hp&_r=1 (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/16/sports/errors-in-inquiry-on-rape-allegations-against-fsu-jamies-winston.html?hp&_r=1)
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He's a rapist and was protected by the police
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/16/sports/errors-in-inquiry-on-rape-allegations-against-fsu-jamies-winston.html?hp&_r=1 (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/16/sports/errors-in-inquiry-on-rape-allegations-against-fsu-jamies-winston.html?hp&_r=1)
No wonder; do you see how much the MNC was worth to FSU!!!
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He will dominate this year
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Heard he was going to got pro as an MLB relief pitcher, bigger paycheck
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Why? :facepalm:
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2014/4/30/5668004/jameis-winston-arrested-shoplifting-crab-legs-publix (http://www.tomahawknation.com/2014/4/30/5668004/jameis-winston-arrested-shoplifting-crab-legs-publix)
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Why? :facepalm:
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2014/4/30/5668004/jameis-winston-arrested-shoplifting-crab-legs-publix (http://www.tomahawknation.com/2014/4/30/5668004/jameis-winston-arrested-shoplifting-crab-legs-publix)
FSU needs a better training table. :kstategrad:
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Why? :facepalm:
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2014/4/30/5668004/jameis-winston-arrested-shoplifting-crab-legs-publix (http://www.tomahawknation.com/2014/4/30/5668004/jameis-winston-arrested-shoplifting-crab-legs-publix)
FSU needs a better training table. :kstategrad:
What kind of ship are they running down there? This shouldn't have hit the airways. Bill would have had that locked down.
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I don't think I've ever heard of anyone getting in trouble for stealing soda at a fast food place.
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Where's the bag man when you need him. :fatty:
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Think he tucked that under his jersey. :sdeek:
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I honestly don't blame him. Crab is the crap and it's exspensive.
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I honestly don't blame him. Crab is the crap and it's exspensive.
BAG MAN THO.
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elite college athletes should stay far away from grocery stores
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I honestly don't blame him. Crab is the crap and it's exspensive.
yep.
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810 was saying his teammate tweeted how the team has only been given one meal a day for something like a week. Something about how dinner has been canceled during that time due to testing or something and evidently they don't do either lunch or breakfast.
Same guy was saying the unlimited meals doesn't count when the training table is closed and also said that he wishes the NCAA allowed them to get off season jobs.
Can you imagine how Wild Wild West it would get if they were allowed jobs?
Oregon would have like 80 assistants to the president of nike or something. Each making $500k plus stock, full funded 401(k) and three months vacation.
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810 was saying his teammate tweeted how the team has only been given one meal a day for something like a week. Something about how dinner has been canceled during that time due to testing or something and evidently they don't do either lunch or breakfast.
Same guy was saying the unlimited meals doesn't count when the training table is closed and also said that he wishes the NCAA allowed them to get off season jobs.
Can you imagine how Wild Wild West it would get if they were allowed jobs?
Oregon would have like 80 assistants to the president of nike or something. Each making $500k plus stock, full funded 401(k) and three months vacation.
Those rough ridin' assholes get scholarships, food, and great gear to wear. On top of that, the Universities spend millions for outstanding facilities, housing, and the best coaches money can buy. But do you think they would be grateful for all this, eff no, they complain about being hungry and not being able to made any of the bucks the NCAA seems to have a never ending supply of. I bet some of them SOB's are going to try to unionize and crap, just so they don't have to stuff crabs in the crack of their asses.
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Should have stolen lobster tails instead, much easier to conceal
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Should have stolen lobster tails instead, much easier to conceal
Also safer, doesn't poke balls or pants snake.
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How can any boosters at FSU show their face in public ever again.
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fsu attorney says Jameis Winston crab case is weak, there's not eight legs to stand on
or six legs
how many legs a crab got anyways
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810 was saying his teammate tweeted how the team has only been given one meal a day for something like a week. Something about how dinner has been canceled during that time due to testing or something and evidently they don't do either lunch or breakfast.
Same guy was saying the unlimited meals doesn't count when the training table is closed and also said that he wishes the NCAA allowed them to get off season jobs.
Can you imagine how Wild Wild West it would get if they were allowed jobs?
Oregon would have like 80 assistants to the president of nike or something. Each making $500k plus stock, full funded 401(k) and three months vacation.
Those rough ridin' assholes get scholarships, food, and great gear to wear. On top of that, the Universities spend millions for outstanding facilities, housing, and the best coaches money can buy. But do you think they would be grateful for all this, eff no, they complain about being hungry and not being able to made any of the bucks the NCAA seems to have a never ending supply of. I bet some of them SOB's are going to try to unionize and crap, just so they don't have to stuff crabs in the crack of their asses.
And how hard is it to stuff your pockets with fresh fruit and pop tarts on your way out the cafeteria? They're hungry because of their general lack of survival skills. "What's that? No dinner at the training table tonight because of testing? Better grab some snacks on the way out the door". Nope. Probably too distracted by coeds or updating their twitter accounts. They deserve to go hungry IMO.
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This certainly won't help Winston's reputation of being a shellfish player.
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I took a pie out of the Kramer dining center one time. A whole pie. :lick:
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I took a pie out of the Kramer dining center one time. A whole pie. :lick:
I have faith in you when the zombie apocalypse comes.
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I took a pie out of the Kramer dining center one time. A whole pie. :lick:
Was it a warm apple pie? And did you poke a hole in it. Did you respect the pie afterwards??? :surprised:
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I took a pie out of the Kramer dining center one time. A whole pie. :lick:
Was it a warm apple pie? And did you poke a hole in it. Did you respect the pie afterwards??? :surprised:
i was all :facepalm: until i got to the respect part and i was :lol:
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This certainly won't help Winston's reputation of being a shellfish player.
:)
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This certainly won't help Winston's reputation of being a shellfish player.
:)
bushblister? more like spracneblister
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This certainly won't help Winston's reputation of being a shellfish player.
:)
bushblister? more like spracneblister
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ya that may be true but since james winston only took crab legs the police had to probable claws to arrest him
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http://coed.com/2014/08/15/fsu-students-rap-music-video-about-jameis-winston-is-absolutely-baffling/
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A lot of you guys are really going to miss out on this rough ridin' video. Maybe I should take it to the hellhammer/bloodfart thread. :buh-bye:
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i'm not getting tricked into clicking on coed.com for christ's sake
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http://coed.com/2014/08/15/fsu-students-rap-music-video-about-jameis-winston-is-absolutely-baffling/
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That is disturbing.
I am sure her parents are proud.
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I can't believe it. It's cray cray!
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whoa
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Kids these days. :facepalm:
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:Yuck:
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Meh
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:lol:
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Still a better song than Fancy IMO
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Still a better song than Fancy IMO
SHOTS FIRED
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Oh, I'd missed that video. I remember her painting. I'm a fan.
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This rough ridin' guy!
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Oh, I'd missed that video. I remember her painting. I'm a fan.
wait, her painting?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWi42xqsmZo
He said "eff her right in the pussy."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWi42xqsmZo
He said "eff her right in the pussy."
To review...he can do it against her will, just not say anything about it while in the cafeteria
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:lol:
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Pffffffffhahaha
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Oh, I'd missed that video. I remember her painting. I'm a fan.
wait, her painting?
http://deadspin.com/fsu-art-student-creates-painting-of-frat-bro-blowing-ja-1572732275
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:Woohoo:
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Now suspended for the entire Clemson game, not just the first half. Looks like FSU administrators have taken Jameis-related discipline decisions away from Jimbo.
I'll bet our guy Venables likes this.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11555354/jameis-winston-florida-state-seminoles-banned-entire-game-vs-clemson-tigers
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suspension gets removed completely at ku, they need to win now, any blind eye they can turn, administration is 100% behind it
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Florida State is pants on head Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/12/us/florida-state-football-casts-shadow-over-tallahassee-justice.html
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/jameis-winston-florida-state-tallahassee-police-hindered-investigation-documents-101014
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He's making johnny football look less douchey.
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http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/website-alleges-jameis-winston-shaved-points-in-first-half-of-louisville-game-110614
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http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/website-alleges-jameis-winston-shaved-points-in-first-half-of-louisville-game-110614
ugh. clay travis is horrible.
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Imagine that, Jameis doesn't know what stop means
(https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2482532/stopjameis.0.gif)
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Definitely a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty. You simply don't touch an official.
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:lol:
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Still a piece of crap
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Imagine that, Jameis doesn't know what stop means
(https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2482532/stopjameis.0.gif)
And the ACC ruled his contact with the official "insignificant?" :facepalm:
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Definitely a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty. You simply don't touch an official.
Calls for 15 yards and ejection, as I recall.
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official isn't where he was supposed to be. Supposed to be hovered over the ball in front of the center if my memoby serves me right.
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From ESPN tonight. Don't think we've seen the last of this situation.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls14/story/_/id/12062132/jameis-winston-florida-state-seminoles-did-not-violate-school-code
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he is a piece of crap and everyone knows it
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I wonder how many legal bodies have to absolve him before he stops being a rapist. Michael Jackson porks little boys, right?
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I wonder how many legal bodies have to absolve him before he stops being a rapist. Michael Jackson porks little boys, right?
I guess his detractors will have be satisfied with merely calling him a thief.
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I wonder how many legal bodies have to absolve him before he stops being a rapist. Michael Jackson porks little boys, right?
I guess his detractors will have be satisfied with merely calling him a thief.
FSU = Free Seafood University
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I wonder how many legal bodies have to absolve him before he stops being a rapist. Michael Jackson porks little boys, right?
I guess his detractors will have be satisfied with merely calling him a thief.
FSU = Free Seafood University
Hall!