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Title: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on March 29, 2010, 09:59:41 AM
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/20845/qa-kansas-state-coach-bill-snyder
 :lynchmob:
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: steve dave on March 29, 2010, 10:02:40 AM
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but I think the fact that there are no hidden secrets.  Every youngster out there

NO DIAMONDS IN THE ROUGH!

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Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 29, 2010, 10:03:01 AM
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cyberspace

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Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: catzacker on March 29, 2010, 10:12:46 AM
Quote from: Grandpa Snyder
Things are moving too fast for me and my staff.  Thank God for transfers.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: OK_Cat on March 29, 2010, 10:23:14 AM
jfc, the only thing that will make this season ok is that it's going to be hilarious.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: Cire on March 29, 2010, 10:24:54 AM
I think offensively we might be ok.  Defense is going to be a trainwreck.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 29, 2010, 10:28:00 AM
I think offensively we might be ok.  Defense is going to be a trainwreck.

 :surprised:
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: pike on March 30, 2010, 12:05:06 AM
At least Snyds isn't a laughing stock like Gill will be
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2010, 06:56:49 AM
Started reading/fell asleep
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: Maccat on March 30, 2010, 08:36:57 AM
Read the title of thread and thought this was an early April Fool's joke.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on March 30, 2010, 09:01:23 AM
and here's part two: http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/20849/part-two-qa-with-bill-snyder
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: mcmwcat on March 30, 2010, 09:19:24 AM
and here's part two: http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/20849/part-two-qa-with-bill-snyder

on Ducks/Canes series
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LHC Bill Snyder: (Laughs) I’m not going to go to those games now, whether they remain scheduled or not. Yeah, that’s just not our philosophy in regards to scheduling. And that doesn’t help. That doesn’t assist our program.

how much money are we going to spend buying out these games?
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: slackcat on March 30, 2010, 09:22:28 AM
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dgp7575 (3/29/2010 at 8:50 AM)  LHC Bill Snyder, you my only friend.

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Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: weird roberts foam finger on March 30, 2010, 09:49:10 AM
and here's part two: http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/20849/part-two-qa-with-bill-snyder

on Ducks/Canes series
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LHC Bill Snyder: (Laughs) I’m not going to go to those games now, whether they remain scheduled or not. Yeah, that’s just not our philosophy in regards to scheduling. And that doesn’t help. That doesn’t assist our program.

how much money are we going to spend buying out these games?

Given I'd like basketball to continue not sucking, I am hoping zero (0) dollars ($).
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: OK_Cat on March 30, 2010, 09:59:16 AM
I'd rather watch us get beat on national television to miami than to watch us beat/lose to western kentucky on fsnkc

 :zzz:   <--- our schedule again, now that Old Ballz is back.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: catzacker on March 30, 2010, 10:13:10 AM
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We’ve never had at Kansas State, and I don’t think we’re the only team that way, we started this thing with 47 guys on scholarship when you could have 85. And we never, ever caught up to the full 85 during my 17-year tenure here.


 :facepalm:

And bill shouldn't be allowed to get out of any games unless it costs us zero dollars.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: catsdo on March 30, 2010, 10:43:31 AM
At least Snyds isn't a laughing stock like Gill will be

Critter Christmas!
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: felix rex on March 30, 2010, 10:51:44 AM
I'd rather watch us get beat on national television to miami than to watch us beat/lose to western kentucky on fsnkc

Really?
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: OK_Cat on March 30, 2010, 11:02:02 AM
I'd rather watch us get beat on national television to miami than to watch us beat/lose to western kentucky on fsnkc

Really?

you mean you'd rather watch us play some no-name team in a boring, 10-3 type game?  As opposed to a high def ESPN broadcast against an elite team? 

We're going to suck for the next several years...I'd hope we all can face that fact.  I'd much rather lose on ESPN against a big name school than to lose against a La-La type team on a regional broadcast.

Maybe I'm alone in this, I dunno.   :dunno:
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2010, 11:06:01 AM
I'd rather watch us get beat on national television to miami than to watch us beat/lose to western kentucky on fsnkc

Really?

you mean you'd rather watch us play some no-name team in a boring, 10-3 type game?  As opposed to a high def ESPN broadcast against an elite team? 

We're going to suck for the next several years...I'd hope we all can face that fact.  I'd much rather lose on ESPN against a big name school than to lose against a La-La type team on a regional broadcast.

Maybe I'm alone in this, I dunno.   :dunno:

I'm with you.  The UCLA loss was a billion times more fun than the LaLa loss.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: felix rex on March 30, 2010, 11:11:09 AM
I'd rather watch us get beat on national television to miami than to watch us beat/lose to western kentucky on fsnkc

Really?

you mean you'd rather watch us play some no-name team in a boring, 10-3 type game?  As opposed to a high def ESPN broadcast against an elite team? 

We're going to suck for the next several years...I'd hope we all can face that fact.  I'd much rather lose on ESPN against a big name school than to lose against a La-La type team on a regional broadcast.

Maybe I'm alone in this, I dunno.   :dunno:

I'd rather win enough games to be bowl eligible. Besides, you said "I'd rather watch us get beat on national television to miami than to watch us beat/lose to western kentucky"

Much rather watch us beat a WKU than lose to anyone in the non-con. Football non-cons are entirely different from bball non-cons. Bad teams (and even mediocre/above average teams) in BCS conferences should just get their four non-con wins and get out. Bowl eligibility and the extra month of practice trump "national exposure" games.

Replace Auburn, Fresno and UL with some WKUs during the Prince tenure, and even a trainwreck program suddenly finds four extra wins and three consecutive bowl eligible seasons (not to mention three extra months of practice in a sport that tightly restricts practice time).

Until we can play Miamis/Oregons or USCs again, it's pointless and unnecessarily self-defeating to even have them on the schedule.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2010, 11:13:17 AM
I'd rather watch us get beat on national television to miami than to watch us beat/lose to western kentucky on fsnkc

Really?

you mean you'd rather watch us play some no-name team in a boring, 10-3 type game?  As opposed to a high def ESPN broadcast against an elite team? 

We're going to suck for the next several years...I'd hope we all can face that fact.  I'd much rather lose on ESPN against a big name school than to lose against a La-La type team on a regional broadcast.

Maybe I'm alone in this, I dunno.   :dunno:

I'd rather win enough games to be bowl eligible. Besides, you said "I'd rather watch us get beat on national television to miami than to watch us beat/lose to western kentucky"

Much rather watch us beat a WKU than lose to anyone in the non-con. Football non-cons are entirely different from bball non-cons. Bad teams (and even mediocre/above average teams) in BCS conferences should just get their four non-con wins and get out. Bowl eligibility and the extra month of practice trump "national exposure" games.

Replace Auburn, Fresno and UL with some WKUs during the Prince tenure, and even a trainwreck program suddenly finds four extra wins and three consecutive bowl eligible seasons (not to mention three extra months of practice in a sport that tightly restricts practice time).

Until we can play Miamis/Oregons or USCs again, it's pointless and unnecessarily self-defeating to even have them on the schedule.

The problem with your theory is the part where you assumed we would beat WKU.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: OK_Cat on March 30, 2010, 11:30:19 AM
I'm just talking about the fun level.  I'd rather watch Miami play than Western Kentucky. 

I don't give a crap about the well-being of the program.  We're going to suck for the next several years, or at least until Old Ballz goes away. 
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 30, 2010, 11:32:12 AM
For a program that didn't play in a bowl last year and plays in a relatively easy division, to volunteer to go on the road and be someone else's decent non-con win is so moronic I don't see how anyone can defend it.  Bowl eligibility should be the goal.  Not flying coast to coast to play a close game against a name team that also pretty much sucks (Miami, UCLA)

"Oh yay, we are getting drilled by Miami in high def.  I had all my friends over and our wives hung out in the kitchen while me and my buddies drank a couple beers a piece and played Texas Hold 'em.  What a great weekend.  I am going to post pics on Facebook!"

Sometimes our fans are idiots.  
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: weird roberts foam finger on March 30, 2010, 12:20:00 PM
For a program that didn't play in a bowl last year and plays in a relatively easy division, to volunteer to go on the road and be someone else's decent non-con win is so moronic I don't see how anyone can defend it.  Bowl eligibility should be the goal.  Not flying coast to coast to play a close game against a name team that also pretty much sucks (Miami, UCLA)

"Oh yay, we are getting drilled by Miami in high def.  I had all my friends over and our wives hung out in the kitchen while me and my buddies drank a couple beers a piece and played Texas Hold 'em.  What a great weekend.  I am going to post pics on Facebook!"

Sometimes our fans are idiots.  

Being in a bowl kicks the snot out of being 5-6.  If we were a 2-9 kind of team, I'd totally get the love for playing Miami.  Likewise if we were a 9-2 kind of team.  Unfortunately, we are neither of those things.  Bring on the cupcakes!
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2010, 12:22:13 PM
For a program that didn't play in a bowl last year and plays in a relatively easy division, to volunteer to go on the road and be someone else's decent non-con win is so moronic I don't see how anyone can defend it.  Bowl eligibility should be the goal.  Not flying coast to coast to play a close game against a name team that also pretty much sucks (Miami, UCLA)

We can't just pay sh*tty teams to come play us any more.  We're going to have to go on the road to play (and lose) to f*cking Sun Belt teams.  Bottom line, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE EITHER WAY.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: mcmwcat on March 30, 2010, 12:54:12 PM
bowl games are for gheys
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: jtksu on March 30, 2010, 02:23:36 PM
Kinda doubt a game vs WKU is goin g to help wiith recruiting in any way.  At least the national exposure helps, especially if that game ends in a win vs a big name program in a fertile recruitng state.  Seems like games vs a relatively weak UCLA or Miami is not a bad thing.  Florida or USC, not so much.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: felix rex on March 30, 2010, 03:42:10 PM
Kinda doubt a game vs WKU is goin g to help wiith recruiting in any way.  At least the national exposure helps, especially if that game ends in a win vs a big name program in a fertile recruitng state.  Seems like games vs a relatively weak UCLA or Miami is not a bad thing.  Florida or USC, not so much.

You think that loss to UCLA last year was better for recruiting than a bowl trip?
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: felix rex on March 30, 2010, 03:46:41 PM
And michcat, you and OK should 100% behind beating enough shitty teams to get bowl eligible a few years in a row. You know what that would do?

"Calm the waters", that's what.

When you're program-building, you should always play teams a little/lot worse than you whenever you can control it. I mean, name the four non-con teams that Alabama rolled over last year? How'd that help their recruiting?
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2010, 03:48:53 PM
And michcat, you and OK should 100% behind beating enough shitty teams to get bowl eligible a few years in a row. You know what that would do?

"Calm the waters", that's what.

When you're program-building, you should always play teams a little/lot worse than you whenever you can control it. I mean, name the four non-con teams that Alabama rolled over last year? How'd that help their recruiting?

Virginia Tech?

And you keep ignoring what I'm saying.  WE CAN'T BEAT ENOUGH SHITTY TEAMS TO GET BOWL ELIGIBLE.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: felix rex on March 30, 2010, 03:56:14 PM
Quit treating LaLa like it was anything but an aberration. We would have beat them fairly easily by the end of the year.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: OK_Cat on March 30, 2010, 03:56:29 PM
All I'm saying is that we're a shitty team so we should be allowed to enjoy watching big name schools kick our ass.  Feels better than little schools kicking our ass.

Also, scheduling small schools doesn't = winning/getting better

Recruiting/smart coaching = winning/getting better

So really, until our retirement village of a coaching staff leaves, it doesn't matter who we play, we're going to lose.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: catzacker on March 30, 2010, 03:59:30 PM
Kinda doubt a game vs WKU is goin g to help wiith recruiting in any way.  At least the national exposure helps, especially if that game ends in a win vs a big name program in a fertile recruitng state.  Seems like games vs a relatively weak UCLA or Miami is not a bad thing.  Florida or USC, not so much.

You think that loss to UCLA last year was better for recruiting than a bowl trip?

I think having crappy assistants hurts our recruiting.  Good Assistants = Good Recruits = We don't worry about stupid things like bowl games and whether or not the LaLa game is on TV.

I mean, jfc, would the NIT have really helped Wooly?  No.  We’re arguing over the better band aid for the massive head wound the program has.  we f'ing suck.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: felix rex on March 30, 2010, 04:08:05 PM
All I'm saying is that we're a shitty team so we should be allowed to enjoy watching big name schools kick our ass.  Feels better than little schools kicking our ass.

Also, scheduling small schools doesn't = winning/getting better

Recruiting/smart coaching = winning/getting better

So really, until our retirement village of a coaching staff leaves, it doesn't matter who we play, we're going to lose.

Do you enjoy watching big name schools kick our ass?  :dunno:

Am I forgetting another loss to a small school last year? JFC, ULL's kicker hit a career-long FG in the rain to beat us at the last second with rough ridin' Carson Coffman at QB. It's not like we're regularly getting trounced by Sun Belt teams.

Scheduling smaller schools does equal winning, and winning equals bowl trips and bowl trips equal better recruiting and a more stable program.

I don't understand the mindset of "We'll never win with Snyder here so I'd rather lose a lot to awesome teams until he leaves."

We still get ISU, CU and KU in the north. Throw in four non-con creampuffs, and we're winning 7-8 games a year and going to bowls. WTF is wrong with that?
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: Maccat on March 30, 2010, 04:19:36 PM
We need to keep North Texas on the schedule to get that "Greek guy" to comeback and post.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2010, 04:28:14 PM
All I'm saying is that we're a shitty team so we should be allowed to enjoy watching big name schools kick our ass.  Feels better than little schools kicking our ass.

Also, scheduling small schools doesn't = winning/getting better

Recruiting/smart coaching = winning/getting better

So really, until our retirement village of a coaching staff leaves, it doesn't matter who we play, we're going to lose.

Do you enjoy watching big name schools kick our ass?  :dunno:

Am I forgetting another loss to a small school last year? JFC, ULL's kicker hit a career-long FG in the rain to beat us at the last second with fracking Carson Coffman at QB. It's not like we're regularly getting trounced by Sun Belt teams.

Scheduling smaller schools does equal winning, and winning equals bowl trips and bowl trips equal better recruiting and a more stable program.

I don't understand the mindset of "We'll never win with Snyder here so I'd rather lose a lot to awesome teams until he leaves."

We still get ISU, CU and KU in the north. Throw in four non-con creampuffs, and we're winning 7-8 games a year and going to bowls. WTF is wrong with that?

You can't schedule like we did in 98.  KSU is doing home-home series with UCF and North Texas and ULL, because we can't afford to pay 4 FBS schools to come in for guarantee games.

Also, if we're good enough to win 8/year, WTF is the harm in playing a non-sh*tty OOC opponent?
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 30, 2010, 04:31:17 PM
All I'm saying is that we're a shitty team so we should be allowed to enjoy watching big name schools kick our ass.  Feels better than little schools kicking our ass.



That is Ricky Martin-esque gay.  Stop saying dumb crap.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 30, 2010, 04:33:41 PM
All I'm saying is that we're a shitty team so we should be allowed to enjoy watching big name schools kick our ass.  Feels better than little schools kicking our ass.

Also, scheduling small schools doesn't = winning/getting better

Recruiting/smart coaching = winning/getting better

So really, until our retirement village of a coaching staff leaves, it doesn't matter who we play, we're going to lose.

Do you enjoy watching big name schools kick our ass?  :dunno:

Am I forgetting another loss to a small school last year? JFC, ULL's kicker hit a career-long FG in the rain to beat us at the last second with fracking Carson Coffman at QB. It's not like we're regularly getting trounced by Sun Belt teams.

Scheduling smaller schools does equal winning, and winning equals bowl trips and bowl trips equal better recruiting and a more stable program.

I don't understand the mindset of "We'll never win with Snyder here so I'd rather lose a lot to awesome teams until he leaves."

We still get ISU, CU and KU in the north. Throw in four non-con creampuffs, and we're winning 7-8 games a year and going to bowls. WTF is wrong with that?

You can't schedule like we did in 98.  KSU is doing home-home series with UCF and North Texas and ULL, because we can't afford to pay 4 FBS schools to come in for guarantee games.

Also, if we're good enough to win 8/year, WTF is the harm in playing a non-sh*tty OOC opponent?

Only because everyone now schedules like we did in 98 and there aren't enough rummies to go around.

This talking point has been proven wrong for 15 years.  can we ditch it?
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: felix rex on March 30, 2010, 04:34:41 PM
All I'm saying is that we're a shitty team so we should be allowed to enjoy watching big name schools kick our ass.  Feels better than little schools kicking our ass.

Also, scheduling small schools doesn't = winning/getting better

Recruiting/smart coaching = winning/getting better

So really, until our retirement village of a coaching staff leaves, it doesn't matter who we play, we're going to lose.

Do you enjoy watching big name schools kick our ass?  :dunno:

Am I forgetting another loss to a small school last year? JFC, ULL's kicker hit a career-long FG in the rain to beat us at the last second with fracking Carson Coffman at QB. It's not like we're regularly getting trounced by Sun Belt teams.

Scheduling smaller schools does equal winning, and winning equals bowl trips and bowl trips equal better recruiting and a more stable program.

I don't understand the mindset of "We'll never win with Snyder here so I'd rather lose a lot to awesome teams until he leaves."

We still get ISU, CU and KU in the north. Throw in four non-con creampuffs, and we're winning 7-8 games a year and going to bowls. WTF is wrong with that?

You can't schedule like we did in 98.  KSU is doing home-home series with UCF and North Texas and ULL, because we can't afford to pay 4 FBS schools to come in for guarantee games.

Also, if we're good enough to win 8/year, WTF is the harm in playing a non-sh*tty OOC opponent?

I didn't say we had to play them all at home. Teams not named Alabama play OOC road games now. And that's 7-8/yr with four shitty OOCs. Do that for a few years, win some bowl games, then throw in something some games against non-shitty teams.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: catzacker on March 30, 2010, 04:35:27 PM
would getting to a bowl game make del miller a better recruiter?  i mean, I guess it couldn't hurt his recruiting.

and getting 2 for 1's with mid majors instead of getting home/home's from bcs teams is absurdly stupid.  
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: OK_Cat on March 30, 2010, 04:35:37 PM
All I'm saying is that we're a shitty team so we should be allowed to enjoy watching big name schools kick our ass.  Feels better than little schools kicking our ass.



That is Ricky Martin-esque gay.  Stop saying dumb crap.

What's so gay about that?  We're not a very good team.  I'd rather enjoy the game watching a big name team than watch some La-La school beat us.  At least we'd be getting paid for it, right?   :dunno:


There is absolutely no reason to believe that we'll be an above .500 team this season.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 30, 2010, 04:36:30 PM
For a program that didn't play in a bowl last year and plays in a relatively easy division, to volunteer to go on the road and be someone else's decent non-con win is so moronic I don't see how anyone can defend it.  Bowl eligibility should be the goal.  Not flying coast to coast to play a close game against a name team that also pretty much sucks (Miami, UCLA)

We can't just pay sh*tty teams to come play us any more.  We're going to have to go on the road to play (and lose) to f*cking Sun Belt teams.  Bottom line, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE EITHER WAY.

Look at some of the bowl eligible teams last season.  And the season before that.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 30, 2010, 04:40:00 PM
All I'm saying is that we're a shitty team so we should be allowed to enjoy watching big name schools kick our ass.  Feels better than little schools kicking our ass.



That is Ricky Martin-esque gay.  Stop saying dumb crap.

What's so gay about that?  We're not a very good team.  I'd rather enjoy the game watching a big name team than watch some La-La school beat us.  At least we'd be getting paid for it, right?   :dunno:


There is absolutely no reason to believe that we'll be an above .500 team this season.

Every sports bar on the entire continent has "big name teams" playing on huge HD televisions every saturday from late August until after New Years.  Have at it. 

If you are having some "big name team watching" deficiency, the KSU schedule makers cannot help you.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: felix rex on March 30, 2010, 04:46:39 PM
There is absolutely no reason to believe that we'll be an above .500 team this season.

Really, you don't think we can squeeze 6 wins out of that schedule?

UCLA
Mizzou State
Iowa State
Central Florida
Nebraska
@KU
@Baylor
Oklahoma State
Texas
@ Mizzou
@Colorado
@North Texas
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2010, 04:53:20 PM
For a program that didn't play in a bowl last year and plays in a relatively easy division, to volunteer to go on the road and be someone else's decent non-con win is so moronic I don't see how anyone can defend it.  Bowl eligibility should be the goal.  Not flying coast to coast to play a close game against a name team that also pretty much sucks (Miami, UCLA)

We can't just pay sh*tty teams to come play us any more.  We're going to have to go on the road to play (and lose) to f*cking Sun Belt teams.  Bottom line, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE EITHER WAY.

Look at some of the bowl eligible teams last season.  And the season before that.

what should I be looking for?  OOC schedules without BCS opponents?  Good luck w/ that.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: Pete on March 30, 2010, 04:55:02 PM
There is absolutely no reason to believe that we'll be an above .500 team this season.

Really, you don't think we can squeeze 6 wins out of that schedule?

UCLA
Mizzou State
Iowa State
Central Florida
Nebraska
@KU
@Baylor
Oklahoma State
Texas
@ Mizzou
@Colorado
@North Texas

What are the odds that it does NOT come down to the North Texas game?  I say 40%.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: CHONGS on March 30, 2010, 04:58:52 PM
There is absolutely no reason to believe that we'll be an above .500 team this season.

Really, you don't think we can squeeze 6 wins out of that schedule?

UCLA
Mizzou State
Iowa State
Central Florida
Nebraska
@KU
@Baylor
Oklahoma State
Texas
@ Mizzou
@Colorado
@North Texas
I see 5 road games.  To any reasonable person, with the current state of our program, that is 5 losses.  LHC Bill Snyder 2.0 hasn't won a true road game yet.  I hope to hell we can be competitive at home, but Texas, Nebraska, and OSU are games where we will be 14+ point underdogs.

Wins we should expect (confidence factor 1  = slight favorite, 3 = overwelming favorite)
UCLA (1) [probably being way too much of a homer]
Missouri State (3)
Central Florida (1)
@North Texas (2)

Next years schedule is hard.  It could easily be a disaster with only 2 wins.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: felix rex on March 30, 2010, 05:00:59 PM
There is absolutely no reason to believe that we'll be an above .500 team this season.

Really, you don't think we can squeeze 6 wins out of that schedule?

UCLA
Mizzou State
Iowa State
Central Florida
Nebraska
@KU
@Baylor
Oklahoma State
Texas
@ Mizzou
@Colorado
@North Texas

What are the odds that it does NOT come down to the North Texas game?  I say 40%.

Take those odds and run!

A lot hinges on those first five home/neutral games.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: felix rex on March 30, 2010, 05:02:32 PM
Next years schedule is hard.  It could easily be a disaster with only 2 wins.

Wish you'd started here so I could have just ignored all the "confidence factor" stuff.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: OK_Cat on March 30, 2010, 05:05:48 PM
There is absolutely no reason to believe that we'll be an above .500 team this season.

Really, you don't think we can squeeze 6 wins out of that schedule?

UCLA       L
Mizzou State    W
Iowa State      Toss up
Central Florida    Toss up
Nebraska     L
@KU     Toss  up
@Baylor    L
Oklahoma State     L
Texas     L
@ Mizzou     L
@Colorado    Toss up
@North Texas     Toss up

We could be 6-6, maybe.  That's not above .500, like I said, though.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: CHONGS on March 30, 2010, 05:06:39 PM
Tougher sched than last year, and it took a miracle to get 6 wins.

Is it impossible? No, but an above .500 record would be an over-achievement worthy of Big COY.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: PowercatPat on March 30, 2010, 05:23:15 PM
There is absolutely no reason to believe that we'll be an above .500 team this season.

Really, you don't think we can squeeze 6 wins out of that schedule?

UCLA       L
Mizzou State    W
Iowa State      Toss up
Central Florida    Toss up
Nebraska     L
@KU     Toss  up
@Baylor    L
Oklahoma State     L
Texas     L
@ Mizzou     L
@Colorado    Toss up
@North Texas     Toss up

We could be 6-6, maybe.  That's not above .500, like I said, though.


You really think Baylor and OSU are losses? Do you realize that OSU lost almost their entire starting lineup from last season?
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: CHONGS on March 30, 2010, 05:26:38 PM
There is absolutely no reason to believe that we'll be an above .500 team this season.

Really, you don't think we can squeeze 6 wins out of that schedule?

UCLA       L
Mizzou State    W
Iowa State      Toss up
Central Florida    Toss up
Nebraska     L
@KU     Toss  up
@Baylor    L
Oklahoma State     L
Texas     L
@ Mizzou     L
@Colorado    Toss up
@North Texas     Toss up

We could be 6-6, maybe.  That's not above .500, like I said, though.


You really think Baylor and OSU are losses? Do you realize that OSU lost almost their entire starting lineup from last season?
Baylor is on the road.

Okie State will still probably be favored, how could they not?
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: felix rex on March 30, 2010, 05:34:25 PM
Tougher sched than last year, and it took a miracle to get 6 wins.

Is it impossible? No, but an above .500 record would be an over-achievement worthy of Big COY.

Really? Maybe I'm just not paying attention to other teams, but I don't think anyone (but us) would be that impressed with home wins over a 6-6 UCLA team,  a 6-6 Iowa State team, an 8-4 UCF team, a depleted Okie State and Mizzou State.

I mean, I guess we're scared of roadies because of the ULL loss, but what other road game should Snyder v2.0 have won last year? Baylor's "scary" because of Griffith, but went 4-8 (1-7) without him. And calling 2-10 UNT a toss-up is just being willfully pessimistic.

I'm not saying we will win 6+, I'm just saying 6-7 wins wouldn't be all that impressive.  :dunno: (would still be  :ksu: for me though)
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2010, 06:00:30 PM
6 gets us pinstriping.  This must be the goal.  Must be. 
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: ChiComCat on March 30, 2010, 06:04:58 PM
I don't like going on the road to play Sun Belt teams <Pretty sure this isn't the argument everyone else is having but I got tired of reading about our shitty football team
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: felix rex on March 30, 2010, 06:05:18 PM
6 gets us pinstriping.  This must be the goal.  Must be. 

I'm def on board with this new mantra. Would love an east coast cats game.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: Daddy Claxton on March 30, 2010, 06:15:22 PM
ULL's kicker hit a career-long FG in the rain to beat us at the last second with fracking Carson Coffman at QB. It's not like we're regularly getting trounced by Sun Belt teams.


I was totally agreeing with felix, then I realized that he just came up with a moral victory against Louisiana freaking Lafayette.  Not felix's fault at all, but good god.   :embarrassed:
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: felix rex on March 30, 2010, 06:40:48 PM
ULL's kicker hit a career-long FG in the rain to beat us at the last second with fracking Carson Coffman at QB. It's not like we're regularly getting trounced by Sun Belt teams.


I was totally agreeing with felix, then I realized that he just came up with a moral victory against Louisiana freaking Lafayette.  Not felix's fault at all, but good god.   :embarrassed:

Def not a moral victory. Just saying it's not like we got "trounced." New coach,  entirely new offensive strategy and shitty QB in second game of the year. It's just ridiculous to keep pointing to that one game as us getting beat down by Sun Belt teams.

I mean, we'd easily finish in the top third of the Sun Belt...
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: OK_Cat on March 30, 2010, 07:22:25 PM
You really think Baylor and OSU are losses? Do you realize that OSU lost almost their entire starting lineup from last season?

I live an hour from Stillwater...they aren't losing much/if anything as far as talent.  They might have lost some leadership, but that remains to be seen.  Either way, they're still better talent-wise than us.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: Andy on March 30, 2010, 09:30:29 PM
I see 5 road games.  To any reasonable person, with the current state of our program, that is 5 losses.  LHC Bill Snyder 2.0 hasn't won a true road game yet.  I hope to hell we can be competitive at home, but Texas, Nebraska, and OSU are games where we will be 14+ point underdogs.

Wins we should expect (confidence factor 1  = slight favorite, 3 = overwelming favorite)
UCLA (1) [probably being way too much of a homer]
Missouri State (3)
Central Florida (1)
@North Texas (2)

Next years schedule is hard.  It could easily be a disaster with only 2 wins.

i'd be pretty surprised if we are 14 pt dogs at home to anyone.  thats a lot for a home team even in the worst of circumstances.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 30, 2010, 10:42:08 PM
6 gets us pinstriping.  This must be the goal.  Must be. 

Hey SD, dust off your Tux and warm up the Starwoods points....we are going to the Big Apple!   :gocho:
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: felix rex on March 31, 2010, 05:21:18 AM
You really think Baylor and OSU are losses? Do you realize that OSU lost almost their entire starting lineup from last season?

I live an hour from Stillwater...they aren't losing much/if anything as far as talent.  They might have lost some leadership, but that remains to be seen.  Either way, they're still better talent-wise than us.

How does this help?  :dunno:
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: Skipper44 on March 31, 2010, 09:54:26 AM
You really think Baylor and OSU are losses? Do you realize that OSU lost almost their entire starting lineup from last season?

I live an hour from Stillwater...they aren't losing much/if anything as far as talent.  They might have lost some leadership, but that remains to be seen.  Either way, they're still better talent-wise than us.

Any idea on will be the QB for the Pokes? 

Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: OK_Cat on March 31, 2010, 10:17:10 AM
You really think Baylor and OSU are losses? Do you realize that OSU lost almost their entire starting lineup from last season?

I live an hour from Stillwater...they aren't losing much/if anything as far as talent.  They might have lost some leadership, but that remains to be seen.  Either way, they're still better talent-wise than us.

How does this help?  :dunno:

I know people.  stop making it so difficult


Brandon Weeden is their guy.  He's got a really good arm.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: felix rex on March 31, 2010, 10:27:40 AM
You really think Baylor and OSU are losses? Do you realize that OSU lost almost their entire starting lineup from last season?

I live an hour from Stillwater...they aren't losing much/if anything as far as talent.  They might have lost some leadership, but that remains to be seen.  Either way, they're still better talent-wise than us.

How does this help?  :dunno:

I know people.  stop making it so difficult


Brandon Weeden is their guy.  He's got a really good arm.

This sounds really convincing. I mean, I admit I was skeptical at first, but I forgot they had a 26-year old Chris Weinke baseball flameout on their team.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: Skipper44 on March 31, 2010, 11:24:21 AM
Was this the guy that came in off the bench to save the CU game? 

Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: felix rex on March 31, 2010, 11:33:52 AM
Yep. Not gonna lie. Would be all :love: if he was on the cats.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: kstatefreak42 on March 31, 2010, 12:27:19 PM
And michcat, you and OK should 100% behind beating enough shitty teams to get bowl eligible a few years in a row. You know what that would do?

"Calm the waters", that's what.

When you're program-building, you should always play teams a little/lot worse than you whenever you can control it. I mean, name the four non-con teams that Alabama rolled over last year? How'd that help their recruiting?
good point.
Title: Re: LHC Bill Snyder talks recruiting!
Post by: Pett on March 31, 2010, 01:41:45 PM
JFC, all of Snyd's interviews are the exact same. He's like a god damn robot or something.