Post by: fun muffin on November 07, 2013, 10:55:57 PM
Post by: puniraptor on November 07, 2013, 11:18:01 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 08, 2013, 08:20:25 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on January 06, 2014, 02:21:03 PM
guys, he has it all.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa.espncdn.com%2Fmedia%2Fmotion%2F2014%2F0104%2Fdm_140104_Oklahoma_State_Kansas_State_Highlight%2Fdm_140104_Oklahoma_State_Kansas_State_Highlight.jpg&hash=c0a6bca01a3055a9106feb7a8205e0de59e7835a)
Post by: mocat on January 06, 2014, 02:29:54 PM
Post by: puniraptor on January 06, 2014, 02:32:38 PM
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2014, 02:33:22 PM
Post by: KITNfury on January 06, 2014, 02:44:09 PM
love the new doI'm with you, dude.
Post by: 'taterblast on January 06, 2014, 02:45:29 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on January 06, 2014, 02:46:08 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on January 06, 2014, 02:47:27 PM
Post by: kslim on January 06, 2014, 02:57:16 PM
Post by: slobber on January 06, 2014, 03:21:17 PM
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2014, 03:28:48 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.foxsports.com%2Fcontent%2Ffscom%2Fimg%2F2013%2F12%2F21%2F122113-CBK-KANSAS-STATE-MARCUS-FOSTER-DC-PI_20131221194957661_660_320.JPG&hash=5fbd9abbca1ac7975f06a8bef1d074dd408f5841)
Someone needs to add a mic in his hand and some karaoke stuff in the background.
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2014, 03:29:23 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.philly.com%2Fimages%2F122113_kansas-state_600.jpg&hash=20f97adaca91c87a81cffcf65b441c55f5be2755)
This one is absolutely great. Really swoon type stuff here.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 06, 2014, 03:30:51 PM
mic in hand and willie on the drums and willie on the electric guitar in the background(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.foxsports.com%2Fcontent%2Ffscom%2Fimg%2F2013%2F12%2F21%2F122113-CBK-KANSAS-STATE-MARCUS-FOSTER-DC-PI_20131221194957661_660_320.JPG&hash=5fbd9abbca1ac7975f06a8bef1d074dd408f5841)
Someone needs to add a mic in his hand and some karaoke stuff in the background.
Post by: raquetcat on January 06, 2014, 04:50:35 PM
When he chews his gum, the side of his head moves in and out no less than like 10".
oh my yes, I noticed that when he was shooting FTs, is his head just full of muscles or what?
Post by: kso_FAN on January 06, 2014, 04:56:35 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fl2.yimg.com%2Fbt%2Fapi%2Fres%2F1.2%2FhRMg0VciKDmFEIpC_PwA_w--%2FYXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTMzMztxPTc1O3c9MzAw%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fmedia.zenfs.com%2Fen_us%2FSports%2Fap%2F201401041804650632417&hash=79f155537d4c3b39f62b5e9a63e610ee6fa671e0)
Post by: KITNfury on January 06, 2014, 05:03:15 PM
Jevon says "hi".Just look at those cheekbones. Just look at them!
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fl2.yimg.com%2Fbt%2Fapi%2Fres%2F1.2%2FhRMg0VciKDmFEIpC_PwA_w--%2FYXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTMzMztxPTc1O3c9MzAw%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fmedia.zenfs.com%2Fen_us%2FSports%2Fap%2F201401041804650632417&hash=79f155537d4c3b39f62b5e9a63e610ee6fa671e0)
Post by: hemmy on January 06, 2014, 05:04:47 PM
Post by: mocat on January 06, 2014, 05:46:06 PM
Jevon says "hi".
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fl2.yimg.com%2Fbt%2Fapi%2Fres%2F1.2%2FhRMg0VciKDmFEIpC_PwA_w--%2FYXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTMzMztxPTc1O3c9MzAw%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fmedia.zenfs.com%2Fen_us%2FSports%2Fap%2F201401041804650632417&hash=79f155537d4c3b39f62b5e9a63e610ee6fa671e0)
This photo has Marty's fingerprints (bicepsprints?) all over it
Post by: Winters on January 06, 2014, 08:16:30 PM
Post by: Boondock Poonhound on January 06, 2014, 08:21:39 PM
i feel that maybe we are underappreciating, or not adequately addressing the impact Foster could have with four years here.
guys, he has it all.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa.espncdn.com%2Fmedia%2Fmotion%2F2014%2F0104%2Fdm_140104_Oklahoma_State_Kansas_State_Highlight%2Fdm_140104_Oklahoma_State_Kansas_State_Highlight.jpg&hash=c0a6bca01a3055a9106feb7a8205e0de59e7835a)
McOrebs was one of my favorites. MF is replacing him quite nicely. :Woot:
Post by: Trogdor on January 06, 2014, 08:34:05 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 06, 2014, 09:03:49 PM
Wow throw Will and EMAPE out and that is one mighty adorable team.
Nino is a mutant
Post by: puniraptor on January 06, 2014, 09:05:16 PM
Wow throw Will and EMAPE out and that is one mighty adorable team.
Nino is a mutant
No way nino is great
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 06, 2014, 09:25:15 PM
Post by: Dub on January 06, 2014, 10:04:19 PM
Post by: chum1 on January 06, 2014, 10:09:24 PM
Post by: TownieCat on January 06, 2014, 10:10:04 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi39.tinypic.com%2Frjqmpi.jpg&hash=e95f55153e28872afd00c2db46bb1d149de463a3)
:love:
Post by: raquetcat on January 06, 2014, 10:10:50 PM
Post by: mocat on January 07, 2014, 08:07:55 AM
Wow throw Will and EMAPE out and that is one mighty adorable team.
Nino is a mutant
:sdeek: :nono:
Post by: slobber on January 07, 2014, 08:18:50 AM
Post by: EMAWmeister on January 07, 2014, 11:03:59 AM
mic in hand and willie on the drums and willie on the electric guitar in the background(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.foxsports.com%2Fcontent%2Ffscom%2Fimg%2F2013%2F12%2F21%2F122113-CBK-KANSAS-STATE-MARCUS-FOSTER-DC-PI_20131221194957661_660_320.JPG&hash=5fbd9abbca1ac7975f06a8bef1d074dd408f5841)
Someone needs to add a mic in his hand and some karaoke stuff in the background.
I added Westicles on snapchat and he sent me a video of Nigel playing Dance Dance Revolution :love: :love: :love:
Post by: sunny_cat on January 07, 2014, 11:06:12 AM
mic in hand and willie on the drums and willie on the electric guitar in the background(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.foxsports.com%2Fcontent%2Ffscom%2Fimg%2F2013%2F12%2F21%2F122113-CBK-KANSAS-STATE-MARCUS-FOSTER-DC-PI_20131221194957661_660_320.JPG&hash=5fbd9abbca1ac7975f06a8bef1d074dd408f5841)
Someone needs to add a mic in his hand and some karaoke stuff in the background.
I added Westicles on snapchat and he sent me a video of Nigel playing Dance Dance Revolution :love: :love: :love:
People still play DDR? :love:
Post by: EMAWmeister on January 07, 2014, 11:09:51 AM
mic in hand and willie on the drums and willie on the electric guitar in the background(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.foxsports.com%2Fcontent%2Ffscom%2Fimg%2F2013%2F12%2F21%2F122113-CBK-KANSAS-STATE-MARCUS-FOSTER-DC-PI_20131221194957661_660_320.JPG&hash=5fbd9abbca1ac7975f06a8bef1d074dd408f5841)
Someone needs to add a mic in his hand and some karaoke stuff in the background.
I added Westicles on snapchat and he sent me a video of Nigel playing Dance Dance Revolution :love: :love: :love:
People still play DDR? :love:
I think that was it. It looked like they were at an arcade
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 07, 2014, 11:25:42 AM
mic in hand and willie on the drums and willie on the electric guitar in the background(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.foxsports.com%2Fcontent%2Ffscom%2Fimg%2F2013%2F12%2F21%2F122113-CBK-KANSAS-STATE-MARCUS-FOSTER-DC-PI_20131221194957661_660_320.JPG&hash=5fbd9abbca1ac7975f06a8bef1d074dd408f5841)
Someone needs to add a mic in his hand and some karaoke stuff in the background.
I added Westicles on snapchat and he sent me a video of Nigel playing Dance Dance Revolution :love: :love: :love:
:O that's awesome.
Post by: 'taterblast on January 07, 2014, 11:26:44 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi39.tinypic.com%2Frjqmpi.jpg&hash=e95f55153e28872afd00c2db46bb1d149de463a3)
:excited:
Post by: 8manpick on January 07, 2014, 11:35:05 AM
mic in hand and willie on the drums and willie on the electric guitar in the background(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.foxsports.com%2Fcontent%2Ffscom%2Fimg%2F2013%2F12%2F21%2F122113-CBK-KANSAS-STATE-MARCUS-FOSTER-DC-PI_20131221194957661_660_320.JPG&hash=5fbd9abbca1ac7975f06a8bef1d074dd408f5841)
Someone needs to add a mic in his hand and some karaoke stuff in the background.
I added Westicles on snapchat and he sent me a video of Nigel playing Dance Dance Revolution :love: :love: :love:
People still play DDR? :love:
I think that was it. It looked like they were at an arcade
There is a DDR machine in the arcade in the basement of the student union. Story checks out.
Post by: Spracne on January 07, 2014, 11:36:55 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on January 07, 2014, 11:37:57 AM
Post by: kslim on January 07, 2014, 12:00:47 PM
that would be fun to watchmic in hand and willie on the drums and willie on the electric guitar in the background(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.foxsports.com%2Fcontent%2Ffscom%2Fimg%2F2013%2F12%2F21%2F122113-CBK-KANSAS-STATE-MARCUS-FOSTER-DC-PI_20131221194957661_660_320.JPG&hash=5fbd9abbca1ac7975f06a8bef1d074dd408f5841)
Someone needs to add a mic in his hand and some karaoke stuff in the background.
I added Westicles on snapchat and he sent me a video of Nigel playing Dance Dance Revolution :love: :love: :love:
People still play DDR? :love:
I think that was it. It looked like they were at an arcade
Post by: CNS on January 07, 2014, 12:16:38 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 07, 2014, 01:40:23 PM
Post by: Trogdor on January 07, 2014, 01:40:48 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdZoQq-CQAAsrNe.jpg:large)
:love:
Post by: kso_FAN on January 09, 2014, 12:41:46 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 09, 2014, 12:43:38 PM
Pretty good from Kellis http://www.kansas.com/2014/01/09/3218949/k-states-marcus-foster-plays-beyond.html
Interesting if true
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 09, 2014, 12:45:39 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 09, 2014, 12:48:46 PM
Post by: ljmhawk2 on January 09, 2014, 12:50:49 PM
KSU-64
wiggins holds foster to 6 points.
Post by: sunny_cat on January 09, 2014, 12:51:15 PM
KU-90
KSU-64
wiggins holds foster to 6 points.
Interesting stuff, Tim.
Post by: ljmhawk2 on January 09, 2014, 12:52:32 PM
KU-90
KSU-64
wiggins holds foster to 6 points.
Interesting stuff, Tim.
you know it's going to be ugly for ksu.
Post by: sunny_cat on January 09, 2014, 12:54:02 PM
KU-90
KSU-64
wiggins holds foster to 6 points.
Interesting stuff, Tim.
you know it's going to be ugly for ksu.
:frown:
Hope not cause I'll be there.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 09, 2014, 12:54:39 PM
so is foster the new jake and thomas the new martavious? love them
Thomas adn Foster are going to be fun to watch. I really like Westicles, Johnson, and Johnson as well. Solid group of 5 from oscar's first 2 classes.
Post by: I_have_purplewood on January 09, 2014, 12:56:36 PM
KU-90
KSU-64
wiggins holds foster to 6 points.
Interesting stuff, Tim.
you know it's going to be ugly for ksu.
You should make a wager.
Post by: theKSU on January 09, 2014, 01:02:34 PM
KU-90
KSU-64
wiggins holds foster to 6 points.
Yeah Wiggins aka the "Junkyard Hawk" is gonna D up big vs. the guy who's gonna beat him for Freshman of the Year.
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 09, 2014, 01:11:28 PM
KU-90
KSU-64
wiggins holds foster to 6 points.
You're giving KSU 26 points, I'll take that bet, $500, with $200 on the over on Foster/6pts.
Post by: Trogdor on January 09, 2014, 01:20:33 PM
KU-90
KSU-64
wiggins holds foster to 6 points.
90 points on a team that is allowing 53 points in its last 10 games? I guess it makes sense
Post by: 'taterblast on January 09, 2014, 01:21:24 PM
KU-90
KSU-64
wiggins holds foster to 6 points.
You're giving KSU 26 points, I'll take that bet, $500, with $200 on the over on Foster/6pts.
YOU WON'T, ljmhawk2
Post by: yoman on January 09, 2014, 01:37:38 PM
KU-90
KSU-64
wiggins holds foster to 6 points.
You're giving KSU 26 points, I'll take that bet, $500, with $200 on the over on Foster/6pts.
YOU WON'T, ljmhawk2
I guess we can see if Landon 2.0 pays off his bets.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 09, 2014, 02:11:28 PM
Post by: kslim on January 09, 2014, 02:14:45 PM
well since the mods cant make crap stick you might as well take this bet landonKU-90
KSU-64
wiggins holds foster to 6 points.
You're giving KSU 26 points, I'll take that bet, $500, with $200 on the over on Foster/6pts.
YOU WON'T, ljmhawk2
I guess we can see if Landon 2.0 pays off his bets.
Post by: ZmoneyKSU on January 09, 2014, 02:15:52 PM
I do really love that Shane was telling Foster and the coaches that he had to be more than a role player because he was too good.
Yea, I almost had to get some weakness tissues because I was going to pass some eye water. No seriously, that really changed my perception of Shane. I think I wondered if he was jealous of Marcus because Shane viewed himself as the next Jake/Rod type senior leader. I was wrong about you Shane, I'm sorry.
Post by: manpow5 on January 09, 2014, 02:20:30 PM
KU-90
KSU-64
wiggins holds foster to 6 points.
Interesting stuff, Tim.
you know it's going to be ugly for ksu.
No way it can be ugly out there, we have some of the best looking Freshman out there! :love: :love:
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 09, 2014, 02:21:48 PM
KU-90
KSU-64
wiggins holds foster to 6 points.
Interesting stuff, Tim.
you know it's going to be ugly for ksu.
we should bet, broke ass
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 09, 2014, 05:27:39 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 09, 2014, 06:04:21 PM
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Post by: scottwildcat on January 09, 2014, 06:10:46 PM
I just spoke into my Android and this crazy app AutoRap transformed my speech into a sick rap beat: http://khu.sh/autorap_52cf36f04e171&v2
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Virus
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 09, 2014, 06:14:38 PM
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Post by: 'taterblast on January 20, 2014, 12:12:39 PM
:gocho:
Post by: 75cat on January 20, 2014, 12:53:35 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 20, 2014, 12:55:39 PM
At the start of this thread there are several comments about how GOOD LOOKING Marcus is (I did not know that there were that many women on this board, because if those comments weren't mostly made by females, that is CREEPY!!!). While I am certainly not an expert on the looks, I have thought his facial expressions reflect a level of having fun on the court similar to those that Shane has made over the years.
This board isn't for you, 75yearsoldcat.
Post by: ChiComCat on January 20, 2014, 12:55:59 PM
At the start of this thread there are several comments about how GOOD LOOKING Marcus is (I did not know that there were that many women on this board, because if those comments weren't mostly made by females, that is CREEPY!!!). While I am certainly not an expert on the looks, I have thought his facial expressions reflect a level of having fun on the court similar to those that Shane has made over the years.
Its not creepy to admit another man looks good, it doesn't have to mean you want to have sexy time with them. Pretending that you can't tell the difference between a Mangino and a Shane is weird.
Post by: sunny_cat on January 20, 2014, 12:57:17 PM
At the start of this thread there are several comments about how GOOD LOOKING Marcus is (I did not know that there were that many women on this board, because if those comments weren't mostly made by females, that is CREEPY!!!). While I am certainly not an expert on the looks, I have thought his facial expressions reflect a level of having fun on the court similar to those that Shane has made over the years.
:flush:
Post by: Trim on January 20, 2014, 01:04:36 PM
Post by: slobber on January 20, 2014, 01:11:04 PM
Seems racist?At the start of this thread there are several comments about how GOOD LOOKING Marcus is (I did not know that there were that many women on this board, because if those comments weren't mostly made by females, that is CREEPY!!!). While I am certainly not an expert on the looks, I have thought his facial expressions reflect a level of having fun on the court similar to those that Shane has made over the years.
Its not creepy to admit another man looks good, it doesn't have to mean you want to have sexy time with them. Pretending that you can't tell the difference between a Mangino and a Shane is weird.
(jk)
Post by: yoman on January 20, 2014, 01:34:01 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 20, 2014, 01:35:07 PM
Post by: sunny_cat on January 20, 2014, 01:35:54 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on January 21, 2014, 01:01:18 PM
"easy money"
http://twitpic.com/dsyjve (http://twitpic.com/dsyjve)
Post by: Belvis Noland on January 21, 2014, 02:10:06 PM
some fellow EMAWers and I have all noticed this. are we the only ones?
Post by: That_Guy on January 21, 2014, 02:47:33 PM
does MF seem out of shape to anybody else? relatively speaking, of course.
some fellow EMAWers and I have all noticed this. are we the only ones?
I thought he was just more a, "built," kind of guy. But his mohawk though :love:
Post by: puniraptor on January 21, 2014, 02:49:36 PM
does MF seem out of shape to anybody else? relatively speaking, of course.
some fellow EMAWers and I have all noticed this. are we the only ones?
I thought he was just more a, "built," kind of guy. But his mohawk though :love:
I don't think he's out of shape, especially for a freshman. I do feel like the team conditioning level as a whole is down from the greenie days. Overall just softer and sweatier.
Post by: ben ji on January 21, 2014, 02:50:12 PM
does MF seem out of shape to anybody else? relatively speaking, of course.
some fellow EMAWers and I have all noticed this. are we the only ones?
He used to be fat in high school(high school coach used him inside?) and that's why he wasn't a highly regarded recruit.
But no, I don't think he is out of shape.
Post by: Skipper44 on January 21, 2014, 02:50:57 PM
does MF seem out of shape to anybody else? relatively speaking, of course.wearing a T as his undershirt is not doing Marcus any favors, imo
some fellow EMAWers and I have all noticed this. are we the only ones?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 21, 2014, 02:54:00 PM
just tears from their fatdoes MF seem out of shape to anybody else? relatively speaking, of course.
some fellow EMAWers and I have all noticed this. are we the only ones?
I thought he was just more a, "built," kind of guy. But his mohawk though :love:
I don't think he's out of shape, especially for a freshman. I do feel like the team conditioning level as a whole is down from the greenie days. Overall just softer and sweatier.
Post by: mocat on January 21, 2014, 03:06:35 PM
Post by: Benja on January 21, 2014, 03:46:32 PM
At the start of this thread there are several comments about how GOOD LOOKING Marcus is (I did not know that there were that many women on this board, because if those comments weren't mostly made by females, that is CREEPY!!!).
Just as a warning 75cat, only people not comfortable with their own sexuality and/or ugly people typically think this way.
Post by: sunny_cat on January 21, 2014, 03:48:11 PM
At the start of this thread there are several comments about how GOOD LOOKING Marcus is (I did not know that there were that many women on this board, because if those comments weren't mostly made by females, that is CREEPY!!!).
Just as a warning 75cat, only people not comfortable with their own sexuality and/or ugly people typically think this way.
Yep, which is why I thought he and ninglu are buddies.
75cat and ninglu are probably buds.
Ninglu is always proving how TOTALLY STRAIGHT he is by posted pictures of HOTT BABES.
Post by: 'taterblast on January 21, 2014, 03:49:07 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.foxsports.com%2Fcontent%2Ffscom%2Fimg%2F2013%2F12%2F21%2F122113-CBK-KANSAS-STATE-MARCUS-FOSTER-DC-PI_20131221194957661_660_320.JPG&hash=5fbd9abbca1ac7975f06a8bef1d074dd408f5841)
Post by: puniraptor on January 21, 2014, 03:50:18 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 21, 2014, 04:31:33 PM
yeah overall the team is in worse shape. Gipson has really let the wheels fall off compared to where he was when Greenawalt was still around
:thumbs:
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 21, 2014, 04:34:24 PM
not out of shape
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.foxsports.com%2Fcontent%2Ffscom%2Fimg%2F2013%2F12%2F21%2F122113-CBK-KANSAS-STATE-MARCUS-FOSTER-DC-PI_20131221194957661_660_320.JPG&hash=5fbd9abbca1ac7975f06a8bef1d074dd408f5841)
Look at Shane in that picture. He upstages even the sexiest of men
Post by: puniraptor on January 21, 2014, 04:34:39 PM
yeah overall the team is in worse shape. Gipson has really let the wheels fall off compared to where he was when Greenawalt was still around
:thumbs:
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Post by: ShellShock on January 21, 2014, 05:02:40 PM
does MF seem out of shape to anybody else? relatively speaking, of course.
some fellow EMAWers and I have all noticed this. are we the only ones?
I don't care if he's 185 or 350 as long as he keeps the production up. I don't GAF what he looks like as long as he can ball.
Post by: puniraptor on January 21, 2014, 05:03:58 PM
does MF seem out of shape to anybody else? relatively speaking, of course.
some fellow EMAWers and I have all noticed this. are we the only ones?
I don't care if he's 185 or 350 as long as he keeps the production up. I don't GAF what he looks like as long as he can ball.
I wouldn't care if he was ugly, but I absolutely care that he is beautiful.
Post by: ShellShock on January 21, 2014, 05:07:59 PM
does MF seem out of shape to anybody else? relatively speaking, of course.
some fellow EMAWers and I have all noticed this. are we the only ones?
I don't care if he's 185 or 350 as long as he keeps the production up. I don't GAF what he looks like as long as he can ball.
I wouldn't care if he was ugly, but I absolutely care that he is beautiful.
+1
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 21, 2014, 09:50:15 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on January 21, 2014, 09:58:13 PM
I hope he gets better at driving to the hoop very soon. He doesn't draw charges as much as he should, and turns it over more than I would hope. He just seems to choose terrible times to drive it, like when it's him vs. 3 defenders.He also kinda broadcasts it sometimes.
"Oh, that lane closed... and that one... and that one.... ahhh eff it"
Post by: Bill Clarahan on January 21, 2014, 10:32:31 PM
Post by: Jackstack99EMAW on January 21, 2014, 10:37:04 PM
I hope he gets better at driving to the hoop very soon. He doesn't draw charges as much as he should, and turns it over more than I would hope. He just seems to choose terrible times to drive it, like when it's him vs. 3 defenders.This, he has a lot of athletic ability and doesn't use it enough. Jevon drives well, but is not a good finisher, if he starts finishing at the rim and hits the jumper, he could be all b12.
Post by: my troll name ... Koppe22 on January 21, 2014, 11:14:02 PM
Post by: mocat on January 22, 2014, 08:03:09 AM
This team has been out of shape since the new regime arrived
yes, somebody tell Gipson to lay off the cream filled donuts amirite Bill Clarahan
Post by: kso_FAN on January 22, 2014, 08:04:58 AM
I hope he gets better at driving to the hoop very soon. He doesn't draw charges as much as he should, and turns it over more than I would hope. He just seems to choose terrible times to drive it, like when it's him vs. 3 defenders.
He played mostly inside in high school, he'll get better.
I haven't seen much (any?) evidence to support the comments that this team is more "out of shape" than previous teams. :dunno:
Post by: mocat on January 22, 2014, 08:09:18 AM
I haven't seen much (any?) evidence to support the comments that this team is more "out of shape" than previous teams. :dunno:
There are plus or minus zero players that are fat or out of shape on this year's team. Maybe Omari, but he eats a lot of stuff as we all know.
Post by: Trim on January 22, 2014, 08:19:36 AM
I haven't seen much (any?) evidence to support the comments that this team is more "out of shape" than previous teams. :dunno:
There are plus or minus zero players that are fat or out of shape on this year's team. Maybe Omari, but he eats a lot of stuff as we all know.
:lol:
Post by: rollingplains on January 22, 2014, 10:34:45 AM
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Post by: rollingplains on January 22, 2014, 11:10:28 AM
My god look at that Nike vs Adidas comparison. An absolute jersey mismatch right there.
YES THE SAME AS THE SCORE !!
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 22, 2014, 11:30:56 AM
Post by: rollingplains on January 22, 2014, 11:33:30 AM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on January 22, 2014, 11:55:36 AM
Post by: Winters on January 22, 2014, 12:00:56 PM
Well after a 26 point beatdown he can wear them anyway he wants tolol, this post just screams "I'm lonely".
Post by: rollingplains on January 22, 2014, 12:28:54 PM
And yours screams , God I wish we had a real basketball team .... and a real coach who had a voice like a man ,, :'bye cruel world: Oh nice game last night by the way...Well after a 26 point beatdown he can wear them anyway he wants tolol, this post just screams "I'm lonely".
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 22, 2014, 12:30:55 PM
Did Coach really tell you , you were as good as Wiggins ??? :Woohoo:Fact: Wiggins blows goat balls.
Post by: rollingplains on January 22, 2014, 01:05:19 PM
Did Coach really tell you , you were as good as Wiggins ??? :Woohoo:Fact: Wiggins blows goat balls.
[/goat balls =$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ little butthurt goin on here wacky .?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 22, 2014, 01:09:04 PM
No. Just sad that Self is destroying this kids NBA future. How many slots will he move down in the draft now? :frown:Did Coach really tell you , you were as good as Wiggins ??? :Woohoo:Fact: Wiggins blows goat balls.
[/goat balls =$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ little butthurt goin on here wacky .?
Post by: kso_FAN on January 22, 2014, 01:10:26 PM
Per the thread; Foster will be fine.
Post by: Belvis Noland on January 22, 2014, 01:20:05 PM
Quote function gone wrong is always annoying.
Per the thread; Foster will be fine.
What was the story last night? Obviously, he was off, but Weber's choice to sit him the entire second half was interesting. Pretty obvious he was having an off night. Also, pretty obvious we're gonna need him to not have many off nights if we're gonna be a tourney team.
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 22, 2014, 01:30:38 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 22, 2014, 01:30:57 PM
Quote function gone wrong is always annoying.
Per the thread; Foster will be fine.
What was the story last night? Obviously, he was off, but Weber's choice to sit him the entire second half was interesting. Pretty obvious he was having an off night. Also, pretty obvious we're gonna need him to not have many off nights if we're gonna be a tourney team.
He still played 27 minutes and 11 in the 2nd half. He was taken out with around 7 minutes left and didn't get back in until 11 seconds were left. It was a bit strange that he sat so long, but the line-up of Thomas, Spradling, Southwell, Westicles, and Gip wasn't a bad one. I think Weber just went with the guys that were on the floor, I'm hopeful its that and that Foster didn't aggravate one of his injuries.
Post by: Cire on January 22, 2014, 01:55:39 PM
Post by: pissclams on January 22, 2014, 02:51:51 PM
Quote function gone wrong is always annoying.
Per the thread; Foster will be fine.
What was the story last night? Obviously, he was off, but Weber's choice to sit him the entire second half was interesting. Pretty obvious he was having an off night. Also, pretty obvious we're gonna need him to not have many off nights if we're gonna be a tourney team.
He still played 27 minutes and 11 in the 2nd half. He was taken out with around 7 minutes left and didn't get back in until 11 seconds were left. It was a bit strange that he sat so long, but the line-up of Thomas, Spradling, Southwell, Westicles, and Gip wasn't a bad one. I think Weber just went with the guys that were on the floor, I'm hopeful its that and that Foster didn't aggravate one of his injuries.
come on man. there's no defending that. 2 of the 5 on the court could be considered "scorers", sure it's not bad to use that line-up at the 13 minute mark to the 12 minute time out. but when the game is tied with under 2 mins? no. inexcusable.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 22, 2014, 02:53:07 PM
come on man. there's no defending that. 2 of the 5 on the court could be considered "scorers", sure it's not bad to use that line-up at the 13 minute mark to the 12 minute time out. but when the game is tied with under 2 mins? no. inexcusable.
That's fair.
Post by: Winters on January 22, 2014, 03:10:59 PM
I'm so angry now. You are too good of a bbs'er for this blogsite.And yours screams , God I wish we had a real basketball team .... and a real coach who had a voice like a man ,, :'bye cruel world: Oh nice game last night by the way...Well after a 26 point beatdown he can wear them anyway he wants tolol, this post just screams "I'm lonely".
Post by: michigancat on January 22, 2014, 03:27:43 PM
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"We have some moments where we still … can’t let egos get involved and personal matchups and all that stuff,” Weber said. “It has to be about our team to be successful.”
Post by: hemmy on January 22, 2014, 03:34:45 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 22, 2014, 03:37:16 PM
Referring to Marcus?Quote"We have some moments where we still … can’t let egos get involved and personal matchups and all that stuff,” Weber said. “It has to be about our team to be successful.”
I would guess that or Nino. He only played 7 minutes and it wasn't like Shane had a great night.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on January 22, 2014, 04:05:31 PM
Shane had 6-9 really bad offensive possession and 5-7 defensive ones. Think Foster pressed to much to have a good game.Referring to Marcus?Quote"We have some moments where we still … can’t let egos get involved and personal matchups and all that stuff,” Weber said. “It has to be about our team to be successful.”
I would guess that or Nino. He only played 7 minutes and it wasn't like Shane had a great night.
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 22, 2014, 04:07:21 PM
Post by: rollingplains on January 22, 2014, 08:57:12 PM
No. Just sad that Self is destroying this kids NBA future. How many slots will he move down in the draft now? :frown:Did Coach really tell you , you were as good as Wiggins ??? :Woohoo:Fact: Wiggins blows goat balls.
[/goat balls =$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ little butthurt goin on here wacky .?
How far will he drop you ask? , maybe second only because of the job Coach Self has done with Embiid.. Son you would cut one of your little nuts off to have a player like Wiggins, or a real coach for that matter!. We have five guys riding the pine that would bench every player you have starting. It must suck year after year coach after coach trying to measure up to BIG brother.
Post by: EMAWmeister on January 22, 2014, 09:04:29 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 27, 2014, 12:53:59 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on January 27, 2014, 01:06:31 PM
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Post by: michigancat on January 27, 2014, 01:19:00 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 27, 2014, 01:21:16 PM
I hadn't heard about the weight gain in high school before. High school coaches can be such dumbasses.
:shakesfist:
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 27, 2014, 01:26:12 PM
I hadn't heard about the weight gain in high school before. High school coaches can be such dumbasses.
:shakesfist:
He said "can be" as in sometimes bud. We all know you're mayor of stud city.
Post by: michigancat on January 27, 2014, 01:29:55 PM
I hadn't heard about the weight gain in high school before. High school coaches can be such dumbasses.
:shakesfist:
He said "can be" as in sometimes bud. We all know you're mayor of stud city.
I actually initially had "are" but modified it to "can be", because of this.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 27, 2014, 01:33:04 PM
(VIDEO) See what it's like to be Marcus Foster on a dunk via @googleglass #KStateMBB #DOOM http://instagram.com/p/jrxosHplFO/
Post by: star seed 7 on January 27, 2014, 09:44:17 PM
K-State Athletics ?@kstatesports 2m
(VIDEO) See what it's like to be Marcus Foster on a dunk via @googleglass #KStateMBB #DOOM http://instagram.com/p/jrxosHplFO/
:love:
Post by: Winters on January 27, 2014, 09:46:18 PM
K-State Athletics ?@kstatesports 2m(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Frhe7PJa.gif&hash=a60d9a1fa582de7da28059e0895e27f9a4ecc5ba)
(VIDEO) See what it's like to be Marcus Foster on a dunk via @googleglass #KStateMBB #DOOM http://instagram.com/p/jrxosHplFO/
Post by: Jackstack99EMAW on February 01, 2014, 02:57:38 PM
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Post by: kim carnes on February 08, 2014, 02:19:39 PM
Post by: Bookcat on February 08, 2014, 02:31:24 PM
remember when u dumbasses agreed with oscar benching him at the end of the texas game @ UT?
you're on a rip, Kim. Congrats. You've earned it.
Post by: kim carnes on February 08, 2014, 02:42:10 PM
remember when u dumbasses agreed with oscar benching him at the end of the texas game @ UT?
you're on a rip, Kim. Congrats. You've earned it.
when you're hot you're hot, book cat
Post by: Spracne on February 08, 2014, 07:26:16 PM
Post by: steve dave on February 08, 2014, 07:36:36 PM
Post by: Tobias on February 08, 2014, 09:44:52 PM
both studs
yup, top to bottom studs iyam
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2014, 01:23:43 PM
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7. Marcus Foster, G, Kansas State Wildcats
6-2, 200 pounds
The somewhat anonymous recruit had been huge for oscar Weber and the Wildcats' success this season. Foster had 17 points in a win at Texas Tech on Tuesday, and finished with 11 points in a home victory over Iowa State.
This week: Monday at Oklahoma State; Saturday vs. Baylor
Stats: 15.1 PPG, 3.4 RPG, 39 percent 3-pointers | Previous rank: 6
The list:
1. Parker, Duke
2. Ennis, Syracuse
3. Wiggins, KU
4. Embiid, KU
5. Randle, UK
6. Taylor, UT
7. Foster, K-State
8. Gordon, Arizona
9. Mickey, LSU
10. Vonleh, Indiana
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 02, 2014, 02:02:21 PM
Anyone notice that Foster loves to take our first shot or gets a shot off in our first 2 poss. I love how he tries to get himself going early in the game.
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on March 02, 2014, 02:12:08 PM
Sorry if it has been talked about before, but.....Ya I've been noticing this too
Anyone notice that Foster loves to take our first shot or gets a shot off in our first 2 poss. I love how he tries to get himself going early in the game.
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 02, 2014, 02:32:55 PM
It can be frustrating because Marcus knows he's the guy, and he is the guy, but when he finally got consistent minutes after being on the bench because of foul trouble, he tried to force some shots that I don't think he should have.
Post by: TownieCat on March 02, 2014, 02:42:11 PM
I love that Foster has taken that initiative. At least I assume it's him, but it could be planned by oscar. Don't really know how that works.
It can be frustrating because Marcus knows he's the guy, and he is the guy, but when he finally got consistent minutes after being on the bench because of foul trouble, he tried to force some shots that I don't think he should have.
I'd be willing to bet that MF taking the first shot is more about him being aggressive than it is about oscar designing plays. Those shots usually come within e offense and not on set plays.
No one complains about his forced shots when he makes them. He's so good sometimes the his definition of being open is much different than everyone else's. His 3 late in the game yesterday wasn't exactly a wide open look...
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 02, 2014, 02:44:40 PM
Post by: TownieCat on March 02, 2014, 02:52:31 PM
I get that. I'm not against him taking forced shots. But it was a lot of forced shots in a row, and a few times someone else was wide open.
He only took 6 shots yesterday - his fewest of the season. Playing only 21 minutes probably had a lot to do with that tho.
I think he has more issues with turnovers when he's trying to force things than he does with taking bad shots.
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 02, 2014, 02:55:33 PM
I get that. I'm not against him taking forced shots. But it was a lot of forced shots in a row, and a few times someone else was wide open.
He only took 6 shots yesterday - his fewest of the season. Playing only 21 minutes probably had a lot to do with that tho.
I think he has more issues with turnovers when he's trying to force things than he does with taking bad shots.
Yes, sorry. I meant to include that into my original talking point.
Post by: Trogdor on March 02, 2014, 03:27:40 PM
I didnt even think Marcus was averaging that
Post by: kim carnes on March 02, 2014, 03:31:48 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhvHm0UCYAAHaOI.jpg)
I didnt even think Marcus was averaging that
that is for February FYI
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 02, 2014, 03:38:06 PM
Foul trouble did hurt his start of "Marchus"
Post by: Trogdor on March 02, 2014, 03:51:19 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhvHm0UCYAAHaOI.jpg)
I didnt even think Marcus was averaging that
that is for February FYI
I can read, yes. Good job at noticing. Thought I'd be the only one to see that
Post by: Panjandrum on June 26, 2014, 09:47:04 AM
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Rob Dauster
?@RobDauster
Here at the Nike Skills Academy. Marcus Foster is putting on a show right now. Burying threes, hit a pull up, looks really bouncy.
Post by: The1BigWillie on June 26, 2014, 10:30:32 AM
QuoteRob Dauster
?@RobDauster
Here at the Nike Skills Academy. Marcus Foster is putting on a show right now. Burying threes, hit a pull up, looks really bouncy.
:gocho:
Post by: Pett on June 26, 2014, 10:58:59 AM
Post by: Spracne on June 26, 2014, 01:02:55 PM
He supposedly went off at the NSA. What a stud
Champion for privacy #FosterThePeoplesChamp
Post by: nicname on July 01, 2014, 01:10:38 AM
Foster continues to be 6/7 on ESPN/Goodman's Top 10 FR list.Quote7. Marcus Foster, G, Kansas State Wildcats
6-2, 200 pounds
The somewhat anonymous recruit had been huge for oscar Weber and the Wildcats' success this season. Foster had 17 points in a win at Texas Tech on Tuesday, and finished with 11 points in a home victory over Iowa State.
This week: Monday at Oklahoma State; Saturday vs. Baylor
Stats: 15.1 PPG, 3.4 RPG, 39 percent 3-pointers | Previous rank: 6
The list:1. Parker, Duke2. Ennis, Syracuse3. Wiggins, KU4. Embiid, KU5. Randle, UK
6. Taylor, UT
7. Foster, K-State8. Gordon, Arizona
9. Mickey, LSU10. Vonleh, Indiana
Marcus could very well be the best returning sophomore in 2014-15. Hell, he could be the best returner in college basketball.
There are a few guys that have an arguement (some pretty weak) to be a better returning player in a major conference. Probably Missing a couple as well.
JayVaughn Pinkston - Villanova (Sr.)
Perry Ellis - Kansas (Jr.)
Wayne Selden - Kansas (So.)
Le'Bryan Nash - Oklahoma State (Sr.)
Yogi Ferrell - Indiana (Jr.)
Branden Dawson - Michigan State (Sr.)
Andre Hollins - Minnesota (Sr.)
D'vauntes Smith-Rivera - Georgetown (Jr.)
Rasheed Sulaimon - Duke (Jr.)
Montrezl Harrell - Louisville (Jr.)
Dez Wells - Maryland (Sr.)
Aaron Harrison - Kentucky (So.)
Andrew Harrison - Kentucky (So.)
Willie Cauley-Stein - Kentucky (Jr.)
Kevin Pangos - Gonzaga (Sr.)
Tyler Haws - BYU (Jr.)
Fred VanVleet - Wichita St. (Jr.)
Ron Baker - Wichita St. (Jr.)
It would be tough to earn AA status as there will be some new one-and-done guys and it seems like AA teams prefer upperclassmen if they aren't supremo freshmen, but it's possible.
Post by: kslim on July 01, 2014, 07:41:14 AM
Post by: Mr Bread on July 01, 2014, 09:42:30 AM
Post by: PowercatPat on July 01, 2014, 09:44:23 AM
Le'Bryan Nash - Oklahoma State (Sr.)? get the eff outta here. dudes softer than miracle whip on a pillow
Hard to believe he was a McDonald's AA.
Post by: kslim on July 01, 2014, 09:47:05 AM
Oh man kslim hilarious softness reference. What if there was a baby bunny on that pillow with a bunch of cotton balls and cotton candy too? Holy crap that'd be soft!really really soft
Post by: Mr Bread on July 01, 2014, 10:17:35 AM
Foster continues to be 6/7 on ESPN/Goodman's Top 10 FR list.Quote7. Marcus Foster, G, Kansas State Wildcats
6-2, 200 pounds
The somewhat anonymous recruit had been huge for oscar Weber and the Wildcats' success this season. Foster had 17 points in a win at Texas Tech on Tuesday, and finished with 11 points in a home victory over Iowa State.
This week: Monday at Oklahoma State; Saturday vs. Baylor
Stats: 15.1 PPG, 3.4 RPG, 39 percent 3-pointers | Previous rank: 6
The list:1. Parker, Duke2. Ennis, Syracuse3. Wiggins, KU4. Embiid, KU5. Randle, UK
6. Taylor, UT
7. Foster, K-State8. Gordon, Arizona
9. Mickey, LSU10. Vonleh, Indiana
Marcus could very well be the best returning sophomore in 2014-15. Hell, he could be the best returner in college basketball.
There are a few guys that have an arguement (some pretty weak) to be a better returning player in a major conference. Probably Missing a couple as well.
JayVaughn Pinkston - Villanova (Sr.)
Perry Ellis - Kansas (Jr.)
Wayne Selden - Kansas (So.)
Le'Bryan Nash - Oklahoma State (Sr.)
Yogi Ferrell - Indiana (Jr.)
Branden Dawson - Michigan State (Sr.)
Andre Hollins - Minnesota (Sr.)
D'vauntes Smith-Rivera - Georgetown (Jr.)
Rasheed Sulaimon - Duke (Jr.)
Montrezl Harrell - Louisville (Jr.)
Dez Wells - Maryland (Sr.)
Aaron Harrison - Kentucky (So.)
Andrew Harrison - Kentucky (So.)
Willie Cauley-Stein - Kentucky (Jr.)
Kevin Pangos - Gonzaga (Sr.)
Tyler Haws - BYU (Jr.)
Fred VanVleet - Wichita St. (Jr.)
Ron Baker - Wichita St. (Jr.)
It would be tough to earn AA status as there will be some new one-and-done guys and it seems like AA teams prefer upperclassmen if they aren't supremo freshmen, but it's possible.
This is an interesting topic. I would definitely add Kaminsky (Sr.) and Dekker (Jr.) from Wisconsin. Those two are both very good. Also Marcus Paige (Jr.) from UNC.
This dood (http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2014-06-17/top-10-shooting-guards-aaron-harrison-ron-baker-wayne-selden-buddy-hield/slide/1 (http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2014-06-17/top-10-shooting-guards-aaron-harrison-ron-baker-wayne-selden-buddy-hield/slide/1)) thinks Foster is only the 10th best shooting guard in the country. He has Rayvonte Rice from Illinois ahead of Foster. I like Ray a lot personally. Hmmm.
Player GP MIN PPG RPG APG SPG BPG TPG FG% FT% 3P%
Rayvonte Rice 35 32.7 15.9 6.0 1.5 1.7 0.3 1.6 .430 .731 .295
Marcus Foster 33 29.4 15.5 3.2 2.5 0.6 0.2 2.2 .423 .734 .395
Post by: Mr Bread on July 01, 2014, 10:36:38 AM
Post by: _33 on July 01, 2014, 10:43:52 AM
This dood (http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2014-06-17/top-10-shooting-guards-aaron-harrison-ron-baker-wayne-selden-buddy-hield/slide/1 (http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2014-06-17/top-10-shooting-guards-aaron-harrison-ron-baker-wayne-selden-buddy-hield/slide/1)) thinks Foster is only the 10th best shooting guard in the country. He has Rayvonte Rice from Illinois ahead of Foster. I like Ray a lot personally. Hmmm.
Player GP MIN PPG RPG APG SPG BPG TPG FG% FT% 3P%
Rayvonte Rice 35 32.7 15.9 6.0 1.5 1.7 0.3 1.6 .430 .731 .295
Marcus Foster 33 29.4 15.5 3.2 2.5 0.6 0.2 2.2 .423 .734 .395
Wow he is terrible at 3's. 3's are like my all time favorite basketball play so I would not be a big Ray fan. But to each his own.
Post by: Mr Bread on July 01, 2014, 11:01:16 AM
This dood (http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2014-06-17/top-10-shooting-guards-aaron-harrison-ron-baker-wayne-selden-buddy-hield/slide/1 (http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2014-06-17/top-10-shooting-guards-aaron-harrison-ron-baker-wayne-selden-buddy-hield/slide/1)) thinks Foster is only the 10th best shooting guard in the country. He has Rayvonte Rice from Illinois ahead of Foster. I like Ray a lot personally. Hmmm.
Player GP MIN PPG RPG APG SPG BPG TPG FG% FT% 3P%
Rayvonte Rice 35 32.7 15.9 6.0 1.5 1.7 0.3 1.6 .430 .731 .295
Marcus Foster 33 29.4 15.5 3.2 2.5 0.6 0.2 2.2 .423 .734 .395
Wow he is terrible at 3's. 3's are like my all time favorite basketball play so I would not be a big Ray fan. But to each his own.
He's very good at everything else, but yes I would like to see him not be so shitty at it. Part of that is we were fairly shitty a good chunk of last season and he was often our entire offense. Had to force up bad shots late. Once we started the two freshmen, Nunn and Hill, we were better on offense. We also add two transfer guards next year who are good three point shooters in Starks (39.5% in 162 attempts in his last season at Oregon State) and Cosby (40% in 165 attempts his last season with Seton Hall).
Ray excels at getting to the rim, not jacking up contested threes. He should have better opportunities to drive and more open looks from three with our other shooters spacing the floor. Drive finish, drive kick or spot up as the defense rotates to the other shooters. I expect he'll be much more efficient on offense next season.
He is also a very bad ass human being and I appreciate that. Not a whiner or a pussy or a flopper. He's fun to root for.
Post by: Mr Bread on July 01, 2014, 11:08:51 AM
SEASON TEAM MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
2013-14 COLO 31.6 4.5-8.9 .511 0.0-0.1 .000 5.0-6.2 .810 8.4 0.6 1.1 0.8 1.8 1.5 14.1
Post by: Mr Bread on July 01, 2014, 11:10:34 AM
SEASON TEAM MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
2013-14 TEX 25.6 3.8-7.0 .545 0.0-0.0 .000 3.5-5.7 .626 8.2 0.4 2.2 0.5 2.9 1.6 11.2
Post by: Mr Bread on July 01, 2014, 11:13:43 AM
SEASON TEAM MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
2013-14 GONZ 25.3 4.0-6.7 .593 0.0-0.0 .000 2.5-5.0 .500 7.1 0.8 1.7 0.3 2.9 1.9 10.4
Post by: Mr Bread on July 01, 2014, 11:17:52 AM
SEASON TEAM MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
2013-14 NEB 31.7 5.7-13.3 .426 1.5-4.6 .327 5.2-6.4 .819 4.8 1.6 0.8 0.9 3.2 2.8 18.1
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i think that rayvonte rice guy went to drake which automatically makes him disgusting. drake. drake? lmao. drake. mo' valley, mo' rayvontes, that's what i always say, sort of my motto. putting that motto on my crest when i redo my crest.
Muy picante again I see. Trending picante to muy picante.
Post by: EMAWzified on July 01, 2014, 08:16:56 PM
Foster continues to be 6/7 on ESPN/Goodman's Top 10 FR list.Quote7. Marcus Foster, G, Kansas State Wildcats
6-2, 200 pounds
The somewhat anonymous recruit had been huge for oscar Weber and the Wildcats' success this season. Foster had 17 points in a win at Texas Tech on Tuesday, and finished with 11 points in a home victory over Iowa State.
This week: Monday at Oklahoma State; Saturday vs. Baylor
Stats: 15.1 PPG, 3.4 RPG, 39 percent 3-pointers | Previous rank: 6
The list:1. Parker, Duke2. Ennis, Syracuse3. Wiggins, KU4. Embiid, KU5. Randle, UK
6. Taylor, UT
7. Foster, K-State8. Gordon, Arizona
9. Mickey, LSU10. Vonleh, Indiana
Marcus could very well be the best returning sophomore in 2014-15. Hell, he could be the best returner in college basketball.
There are a few guys that have an arguement (some pretty weak) to be a better returning player in a major conference. Probably Missing a couple as well.
JayVaughn Pinkston - Villanova (Sr.)
Perry Ellis - Kansas (Jr.)
Wayne Selden - Kansas (So.)
Le'Bryan Nash - Oklahoma State (Sr.)
Yogi Ferrell - Indiana (Jr.)
Branden Dawson - Michigan State (Sr.)
Andre Hollins - Minnesota (Sr.)
D'vauntes Smith-Rivera - Georgetown (Jr.)
Rasheed Sulaimon - Duke (Jr.)
Montrezl Harrell - Louisville (Jr.)
Dez Wells - Maryland (Sr.)
Aaron Harrison - Kentucky (So.)
Andrew Harrison - Kentucky (So.)
Willie Cauley-Stein - Kentucky (Jr.)
Kevin Pangos - Gonzaga (Sr.)
Tyler Haws - BYU (Jr.)
Fred VanVleet - Wichita St. (Jr.)
Ron Baker - Wichita St. (Jr.)
It would be tough to earn AA status as there will be some new one-and-done guys and it seems like AA teams prefer upperclassmen if they aren't supremo freshmen, but it's possible.
Post by: manpow5 on July 03, 2014, 04:49:43 PM
Think LeBron will bring in Marcus Smart to help with teaching the guys how to flop?
Post by: Pett on July 03, 2014, 05:44:06 PM
Sorry if luked but I heard Foster is going to LeBron's camp.Top 30 players in CBB :thumbs:
Think LeBron will bring in Marcus Smart to help with teaching the guys how to flop?
Post by: Stevesie60 on July 04, 2014, 02:53:42 AM
Post by: KITNfury on July 07, 2014, 04:44:05 PM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on July 07, 2014, 10:14:35 PM
I hate Niang. I think prolly only because he doesn't jump, like at all,when he shoots 3s/ever...because he can't
Post by: The Big Train on July 08, 2014, 12:56:58 AM
Does Lebron actually make an appearance there or nah?
Apparently that's when he is meeting face to face with execs, kind of a bitch move IMHO but whatever. I still like LeBron.
Post by: i poo crabs on July 08, 2014, 10:02:37 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 08, 2014, 10:09:17 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on July 08, 2014, 10:09:56 AM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on July 08, 2014, 10:26:02 AM
He will be better than Pullen, but never as loved as Pullen.theHe has 2 years to make a run that Pullen never did, Big 12 championship, final four.
Post by: michigancat on July 08, 2014, 10:45:02 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 08, 2014, 11:03:29 AM
He will be better than Pullen, but never as loved as Pullen.That's cause Pullen revived us, Foster is just getting passed the torch.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 08, 2014, 11:06:31 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 08, 2014, 11:14:14 AM
I think I will end up liking Foster more than Pullen.The fact that he can shoot and do dunk shots at the same time rises his excitement for me.
Post by: Institutional Control on July 08, 2014, 11:16:04 AM
Post by: Winters on July 08, 2014, 11:17:43 AM
He has three years:lol:
Post by: TownieCat on July 08, 2014, 12:03:04 PM
:bball:
Post by: Shooter Jones on July 08, 2014, 01:14:22 PM
Does Lebron actually make an appearance there or nah?
isn't this where the crawford kid dunked all over LBJ and he tried to get everyone to delete the videos and he has never been back ever because he's scared it will happen again and especially this year with Foster coming?
Post by: felix rex on July 08, 2014, 01:21:30 PM
Geez... Pullen 2.0
More like Fred Peete 2.0.
Post by: cas4ksu on July 08, 2014, 09:16:38 PM
He will be better than Pullen, but never as loved as Pullen.That's cause Pullen revived us, Foster is just getting passed the torch.
Pullen has/had a beard. Marcus does not.
Major factor. IMHO.
Post by: uncle clean jeans on July 08, 2014, 09:32:51 PM
He has 2 years to make a run that Pullen never did, Big 12 championship, final four.
how about as early as the end of next seasonHe has three years:lol:
Post by: pissclams on July 08, 2014, 09:39:45 PM
Post by: SeanSnyder4Prez on July 08, 2014, 11:54:46 PM
Post by: bones129 on July 09, 2014, 12:14:10 AM
I think I will end up liking Foster more than Pullen.
I think I end up liking them equally.
Post by: eastcat on July 09, 2014, 12:22:51 AM
Post by: j-dub on July 09, 2014, 12:32:23 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 09, 2014, 09:02:29 AM
i'll never love anyone more than little jake.Spoken like a true hopeless romantic who can't stop living in the past. :frown:
Post by: Mr Bread on July 09, 2014, 09:21:57 AM
Post by: CNS on July 09, 2014, 10:16:40 AM
His presence at feral purple cat U is the difference between oscar being fired or retiring there.
Which is why he will have to exceed the heights Jake took us to if he wants to be equally beloved.
Post by: p1k3 on July 09, 2014, 10:20:33 AM
Post by: j-dub on July 09, 2014, 10:25:05 AM
i'll never love anyone more than little jake.Spoken like a true hopeless romantic who can't stop living in the past. :frown:
lol wrong
Post by: michigancat on July 09, 2014, 10:41:51 AM
He has three years:lol:
I don't understand this post.
Post by: felix rex on July 09, 2014, 10:50:09 AM
Post by: felix rex on July 09, 2014, 10:50:34 AM
Post by: Trogdor on July 10, 2014, 10:00:40 AM
Post by: Shooter Jones on July 10, 2014, 10:36:10 AM
Hope Foster grows a killer 'stache or something. Just imagine how much better he could be with some facial hair. Pullz learned, Foster should too
like Fear the Fu Manchu?
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Post by: cfbandyman on July 10, 2014, 12:29:53 PM
Hope Foster grows a killer 'stache or something. Just imagine how much better he could be with some facial hair. Pullz learned, Foster should too
like Fear the Fu Manchu?
Need a better, less :Yuck: facial hair style to ever get me to love Foster as much as I love Jake (and I think I'm going to end up liking Foster a lot).
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 10, 2014, 12:34:11 PM
fear foster!
can't spell foster without fear!
Post by: Winters on July 10, 2014, 12:42:35 PM
I thought it was funny that you made that guy look like an idiot.He has three years:lol:
I don't understand this post.
Post by: Jackstack99EMAW on July 10, 2014, 01:56:24 PM
@MF2_KSU has def added strength and athleticism to his game since end of the season really attacking the rim and finishing strong
Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello · 31m
Marcus Foster can flat-out ball. Will be in the mix for Big 12 Player of the Year.
He's a boss.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 10, 2014, 01:58:30 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on July 10, 2014, 02:18:43 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 10, 2014, 02:20:13 PM
Post by: uncle clean jeans on July 10, 2014, 02:21:22 PM
Post by: Jackstack99EMAW on July 10, 2014, 02:42:02 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on July 10, 2014, 02:44:26 PM
Post by: Jackstack99EMAW on July 10, 2014, 02:45:15 PM
It does appear the staff main focus in the 2015 class is a combo guard, we stopped going after long wings when we wrapped up Malek Harris.Who is the best realistic target we can land?
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on July 10, 2014, 03:19:03 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Admon-Gilder-147237 (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Admon-Gilder-147237)
Drew Edwards is planning on a visit soon.
https://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Drew-Edwards-136883;_ylt=Au4uTVQg17jAButfdpV9pCDfsJB4 (https://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Drew-Edwards-136883;_ylt=Au4uTVQg17jAButfdpV9pCDfsJB4)
Everybody wants Malik Beasley and we were on him early. (Still under ranked)
https://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Malik-Beasley-151788;_ylt=AjkLP934rx7C8Q.3QGNLAf3fsJB4 (https://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Malik-Beasley-151788;_ylt=AjkLP934rx7C8Q.3QGNLAf3fsJB4)
I really like The Flush and amazed at how overlooked he is. (If we took him now I would be ecstatic)
https://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Barry-Brown-152111;_ylt=AlOJc_VH4CA9qVDpoF8SU9DfsJB4 (https://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Barry-Brown-152111;_ylt=AlOJc_VH4CA9qVDpoF8SU9DfsJB4)
Jimmy Whitt is an option but a tough pull
https://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Jimmy-Whitt-134014;_ylt=AqOBwpgKzMwPqSr_mPtYZzDfsJB4 (https://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Jimmy-Whitt-134014;_ylt=AqOBwpgKzMwPqSr_mPtYZzDfsJB4)
Landry Shamet has already been on campus and has family that has gone to K-State.
https://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Landry-Shamet-163110;_ylt=AirtpDFULs7KurbZDO2iKyPfsJB4 (https://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Landry-Shamet-163110;_ylt=AirtpDFULs7KurbZDO2iKyPfsJB4)
Ty hudson is another name that has came up recently.
https://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ty-Hudson-145820;_ylt=AmaZFdyT7l7PtQeCI9BaRSffsJB4 (https://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ty-Hudson-145820;_ylt=AmaZFdyT7l7PtQeCI9BaRSffsJB4)
Post by: yoman on July 10, 2014, 03:20:08 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 10, 2014, 03:24:49 PM
Love Foster, but I really hope he goes back to the shooting sleeve instead of the tee shirt under his uniform. It looked way better. JMOWhatever makes him shoot better is what I want.
Post by: pissclams on July 10, 2014, 07:20:53 PM
good lord oscar got lucky with this kidvery shitty attitude, -1 pizza
Post by: CNS on July 10, 2014, 08:18:58 PM
Post by: Pett on July 15, 2014, 09:08:36 PM
:love: :love: :love:
Post by: Cire on July 15, 2014, 09:26:01 PM
Post by: Spracne on July 15, 2014, 09:28:40 PM
Post by: Tobias on July 15, 2014, 09:29:50 PM
Why is there a Sherron Collins pic in here?
beat me to it :curse:
Post by: Kat Kid on July 15, 2014, 09:30:03 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 15, 2014, 09:36:52 PM
Post by: SdK on July 15, 2014, 09:58:23 PM
Fosters: its Australian for "Beard".:thumbs:
Post by: SdK on July 15, 2014, 09:59:24 PM
He looks like a short Antoine Walker. :sdeek:As a fan of the Cardiac Cats, I strongly disagree.
Post by: SdK on July 15, 2014, 10:00:11 PM
'Toine was skinny with a big head in college.He looks like a short Antoine Walker. :sdeek:As a fan of the Cardiac Cats, I strongly disagree.
Post by: SdK on July 15, 2014, 10:00:35 PM
Post by: BackPayne on July 15, 2014, 11:02:58 PM
Post by: j-dub on July 15, 2014, 11:28:20 PM
Post by: Winters on July 15, 2014, 11:43:45 PM
He looks like a short Antoine Walker. :sdeek::excited:
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 16, 2014, 10:22:50 AM
Post by: hatingfrancisco on July 16, 2014, 10:30:21 AM
It's the guy behind him that make shim look fat.
And not his double chin. Got it. :thumbsup:
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 16, 2014, 03:12:39 PM
Jonathon Beasley.
Post by: meow meow on July 16, 2014, 03:13:17 PM
Post by: signature move on July 16, 2014, 03:18:14 PM
didn't someone here mention that he
Post by: CNS on July 16, 2014, 03:21:38 PM
Post by: stunted on July 16, 2014, 03:33:33 PM
Post by: Fedor on July 16, 2014, 03:58:15 PM
Supposedly his past weight prob was due to taking time off for an injury and still eating like he was training.If you are a high school kid that can't eat anything you want whether you are training or not, you have a weight problem.
Post by: _33 on July 16, 2014, 04:02:43 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 16, 2014, 04:11:45 PM
Post by: signature move on July 16, 2014, 05:31:11 PM
He doesn't look that big. Basically looks exactly like during the season. Are you guys Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or something?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi574.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss189%2FPointguardUcom%2F640%2FLeBron%25202014%2Fc2c%2FIMG_0274.jpg%7Eoriginal&hash=45722e4acdde678815e9ab33745a52247db27555)(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.littleapplepost.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F01%2Ffoster.jpeg&hash=84974297a592debace1d09f5a7fae9988d938da4)
sorry for being so Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), funny video guy. obviously he's the same lithe marcus now as he ever was.
i'll go back to lurking the bw3 board.
Post by: eastcat on July 16, 2014, 05:59:44 PM
Not joking.
Post by: _33 on July 16, 2014, 06:29:08 PM
He doesn't look that big. Basically looks exactly like during the season. Are you guys Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or something?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi574.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss189%2FPointguardUcom%2F640%2FLeBron%25202014%2Fc2c%2FIMG_0274.jpg%7Eoriginal&hash=45722e4acdde678815e9ab33745a52247db27555)(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.littleapplepost.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F01%2Ffoster.jpeg&hash=84974297a592debace1d09f5a7fae9988d938da4)
sorry for being so Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), funny video guy. obviously he's the same lithe marcus now as he ever was.
i'll go back to lurking the bw3 board.
No difference. Do you think that guys shorts behind him are part of his butt or something?
Post by: signature move on July 16, 2014, 07:17:51 PM
No difference. Do you think that guys shorts behind him are part of his butt or something?
crap, you know what? i did. still, he's obviously put on a few.
should be fine once he's practicing, working out and playing regularly. amazing to me that after 8 or 9 years at and in illinois, with all the recruiting advantages, oscar snags this kid out of wichita effing falls, texas, and he turns out to be oscar's best-ever recruit. still, i can't help but want that schmuck to do well.
Post by: kso_FAN on July 16, 2014, 10:06:47 PM
He doesn't look that big. Basically looks exactly like during the season. Are you guys Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or something?
You are correct. I saw him several times the last weekend of June and he did not look fat or overweight at all. I don't think much changed in 2 weeks.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 16, 2014, 10:33:14 PM
He doesn't look that big. Basically looks exactly like during the season. Are you guys Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or something?
You are correct. I saw him several times the last weekend of June and he did not look fat or overweight at all. I don't think much changed in 2 weeks.
yeah. he and i flew on the same mhk aa flight from mhk to ord around that time and i didn't think he looked big. also, guess who sat in seat 1A? hint- it wasn't me.
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 17, 2014, 06:51:39 AM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 17, 2014, 12:45:24 PM
Are those really the best jerseys that Lebron could afford?lol at Lebron spending a penny for that camp.
Post by: KITNfury on July 17, 2014, 12:53:45 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 17, 2014, 12:57:58 PM
He has without question gained weight. Traps give it away, thicker neck. Hard to say what amount was fat or not.
there's a clear difference in posture between the two pictures.
Post by: Spracne on July 17, 2014, 01:05:18 PM
He has without question gained weight. Traps give it away, thicker neck. Hard to say what amount was fat or not.
I think you can see it in his face.
Post by: Stevesie60 on July 17, 2014, 01:13:48 PM
Post by: KsJoey on July 17, 2014, 02:12:38 PM
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi574.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss189%2FPointguardUcom%2F640%2FLeBron%25202014%2FIMG_0353.jpg&hash=722bed0c9af3b245108de3839d203ccfd29811ef)
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Post by: Stevesie60 on July 17, 2014, 02:24:32 PM
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Post by: _33 on July 17, 2014, 03:06:46 PM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 17, 2014, 03:29:24 PM
Post by: KITNfury on July 17, 2014, 07:12:18 PM
For real?He has without question gained weight. Traps give it away, thicker neck. Hard to say what amount was fat or not.
there's a clear difference in posture between the two pictures.
Post by: Trogdor on July 17, 2014, 07:26:10 PM
For real?He has without question gained weight. Traps give it away, thicker neck. Hard to say what amount was fat or not.
there's a clear difference in posture between the two pictures.
How the eff can you even conclude that. Do you work for the CIA or something?
Post by: Belvis Noland on July 17, 2014, 07:49:46 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on July 17, 2014, 08:39:25 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 17, 2014, 08:52:17 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on July 17, 2014, 08:53:13 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 17, 2014, 09:27:26 PM
For real?He has without question gained weight. Traps give it away, thicker neck. Hard to say what amount was fat or not.
there's a clear difference in posture between the two pictures.
If you don't understand how proper posture effects your appearance, there is nothing I can do to help you. The difference between the pictures is minimal, and can easily be explained by the difference that would appear when comparing a person standing with proper posture vs. slouching.
Post by: KITNfury on July 17, 2014, 09:40:00 PM
I'm man enough to admit when somebody got me good, and you did!For real?He has without question gained weight. Traps give it away, thicker neck. Hard to say what amount was fat or not.
there's a clear difference in posture between the two pictures.
If you don't understand how proper posture effects your appearance, there is nothing I can do to help you. The difference between the pictures is minimal, and can easily be explained by the difference that would appear when comparing a person standing with proper posture vs. slouching.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 17, 2014, 09:52:39 PM
My word.
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 17, 2014, 09:54:59 PM
I'm man enough to admit when somebody got me good, and you did!For real?He has without question gained weight. Traps give it away, thicker neck. Hard to say what amount was fat or not.
there's a clear difference in posture between the two pictures.
If you don't understand how proper posture effects your appearance, there is nothing I can do to help you. The difference between the pictures is minimal, and can easily be explained by the difference that would appear when comparing a person standing with proper posture vs. slouching.
:cheers: it's all good. I will admit that his mid-section isn't visible. Males, due to the being testosterone hormone dominant, tend to carry excess fat in their mid section and often times their face. Females, due to being estrogen hormone dominant, tend to carry excess fat in their appendages.
I will admit that the initial picture posted makes him look like he has a softer jaw line and neck than during the season, but I think that can be explained by the mass created by his shoulder blades being drawn together pushing more tissue towards his head, rather than the slack shoulder appearance seen in the free throw picture.
Now I feel creepy, and slightly like Manhatter. "He's got great hips!"
Post by: mhkpasa on July 17, 2014, 10:10:20 PM
Supposedly his past weight prob was due to taking time off for an injury and still eating like he was training.If you are a high school kid that can't eat anything you want whether you are training or not, you have a weight problem.
Don't have a link handy but I remember reading he lived with his bro and bro's pregnant wife who ate like a pregnant lady and he inevitably ate with his roomies alot.
Post by: I_have_purplewood on July 17, 2014, 10:12:57 PM
Post by: The Big Train on July 17, 2014, 10:15:31 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on July 17, 2014, 10:33:00 PM
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on July 17, 2014, 11:08:56 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on July 17, 2014, 11:14:41 PM
I mean, lets just say that Foster basically gets onion rings as a side with his meal and the fried twinkie dessert every single time he comes in to eat at station. This doesn't surprise me one bit.
Might want to talk to gfa about what to do after you get fired for releasing that information
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on July 18, 2014, 10:14:25 AM
Post by: SPEmaw on July 18, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
Supposedly his past weight prob was due to taking time off for an injury and still eating like he was training.If you are a high school kid that can't eat anything you want whether you are training or not, you have a weight problem.
Don't have a link handy but I remember reading he lived with his bro and bro's pregnant wife who ate like a pregnant lady and he inevitably ate with his roomies alot.
Guys, he put on weight in HS because he was forced to play center for his school team, Hersci or whatever. He was only 6'2" and needed to bulk up for his team to stand a chance. Him playing center and putting on weight allowed us to land him. Take it or leave it.
Post by: hatingfrancisco on July 18, 2014, 10:47:00 AM
Supposedly his past weight prob was due to taking time off for an injury and still eating like he was training.If you are a high school kid that can't eat anything you want whether you are training or not, you have a weight problem.
Don't have a link handy but I remember reading he lived with his bro and bro's pregnant wife who ate like a pregnant lady and he inevitably ate with his roomies alot.
Guys, he put on weight in HS because he was forced to play center for his school team, Hersci or whatever. He was only 6'2" and needed to bulk up for his team to stand a chance. Him playing center and putting on weight allowed us to land him. Take it or leave it.
That's not why he was overweight.
Post by: SPE_khat on July 18, 2014, 01:05:30 PM
Post by: JohnCurrie is Weird/Gross on July 18, 2014, 01:48:25 PM
#22 :D
Post by: mhkpasa on July 18, 2014, 02:01:30 PM
http://thebiglead.com/2014/07/17/50-best-players-in-college-basketball-for-2014-2015/
#22 :D
luke what we have here
Post by: Spracne on July 19, 2014, 08:42:42 AM
Post by: CNS on July 19, 2014, 10:47:52 AM
Post by: SdK on July 19, 2014, 01:12:49 PM
Post by: kim carnes on July 19, 2014, 02:13:16 PM
What camp is this?(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F07%2F19%2Fesyvezym.jpg&hash=4ca4f26eb55b7ada16adb8e2dbb59af83465968a)
fat camp :lol:
Post by: The1BigWillie on July 21, 2014, 09:25:17 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 21, 2014, 09:39:36 AM
Post by: Unruly on July 21, 2014, 12:25:14 PM
Eddie Murphy has really let himself go.
I like the facial hair tho
Post by: PowercatPat on July 21, 2014, 12:32:11 PM
Post by: SPEmaw on July 21, 2014, 01:32:28 PM
What camp is this?(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F07%2F19%2Fesyvezym.jpg&hash=4ca4f26eb55b7ada16adb8e2dbb59af83465968a)
It's @ Cole Aldrich's camp. :lol:
Post by: kslim on July 21, 2014, 01:41:59 PM
Post by: kslim on July 21, 2014, 01:42:27 PM
Ladder camp.also laughed really hard at this
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Post by: Pete on July 21, 2014, 07:43:23 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 21, 2014, 10:21:18 PM
What camp is this?(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F07%2F19%2Fesyvezym.jpg&hash=4ca4f26eb55b7ada16adb8e2dbb59af83465968a)I believe that's Sherwin Williams mascot, the Swatch
Post by: Unruly on July 28, 2014, 10:01:17 AM
Post by: pissclams on July 28, 2014, 12:03:44 PM
now that proven studfinder de oscar has been id'd as true stud detective, makes you wonder who will be de oscar's next stud that he pulls out of his quiver and shocks the college basketball world with on the cover of ksu stud magazine #who?
Post by: Pete on July 28, 2014, 12:29:39 PM
what a great article written by known emaw stud rob dauster. it would have been nice for de oscar da stud to get some love from dauster for sticking by foster and also for developing him into the stud that he is today. #TresStuds
now that proven studfinder de oscar has been id'd as true stud detective, makes you wonder who will be de oscar's next stud that he pulls out of his quiver and shocks the college basketball world with on the cover of ksu stud magazine #who?
At first, I thought the same thing, clams. NO respect for Weber. But, then I reread it, and I think the ol' Dauster Dog knows that EVERYONE KNOWS who coaches the KSU wildcats.
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“My coach always tells me that if I want to go to the next level I’m going to have to be a point because I’m only 6-foot-2,” Foster said. “It’s something that I have to do. Being a point guard is kind of new to me, but I picked up some point guard things.”
Like what?
“Pick-and-roll stuff, ball-handling stuff, getting the ball up the court [without dribbling], how to split traps, stuff like that.”
Basically, Dauster Dog (aka "The Dog") was thinking "If I type 'oscar Weber' here, it is like pointing out that Mary was the mother of Jesus....duh." The Dog gets it.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on July 28, 2014, 01:02:45 PM
Post by: pissclams on July 28, 2014, 01:33:07 PM
what a great article written by known emaw stud rob dauster. it would have been nice for de oscar da stud to get some love from dauster for sticking by foster and also for developing him into the stud that he is today. #TresStuds
now that proven studfinder de oscar has been id'd as true stud detective, makes you wonder who will be de oscar's next stud that he pulls out of his quiver and shocks the college basketball world with on the cover of ksu stud magazine #who?
At first, I thought the same thing, clams. NO respect for Weber. But, then I reread it, and I think the ol' Dauster Dog knows that EVERYONE KNOWS who coaches the KSU wildcats.Quote“My coach always tells me that if I want to go to the next level I’m going to have to be a point because I’m only 6-foot-2,” Foster said. “It’s something that I have to do. Being a point guard is kind of new to me, but I picked up some point guard things.”
Like what?
“Pick-and-roll stuff, ball-handling stuff, getting the ball up the court [without dribbling], how to split traps, stuff like that.”
Basically, Dauster Dog (aka "The Dog") was thinking "If I type 'oscar Weber' here, it is like pointing out that Mary was the mother of Jesus....duh." The Dog gets it.
as usual, you analysis is spot on. pretty studly stuff. #QuadStuds
sometimes the dog's articles are so cleverly written that you don't get his entire meaning until after several readings and admittedly, i have only read this particular foster article 14 times.
Post by: pissclams on July 28, 2014, 01:33:20 PM
Post by: Pete on July 28, 2014, 02:01:51 PM
thoughts?
OK, yeah. I just read it for the 17th time, and this gem finally jumped out at me:
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I’ll be frank: playing Foster at the point would not be ideal for the Wildcats. Regardless of how much he’s worked this offseason, he’s at his best at the college level when he’s playing as a scoring guard. He’s a lethal three-point shooter when he gets into a rhythm and he’s got the strength and explosiveness to overpower defenders when he’s attacking the rim. Regardless of what position he projects as at the next level, Foster is a terrific scoring guard in college.
But with Will Spradling graduating and a pair of unproven point guards — sophomores Nigel Johnson and Jevon Thomas — it’s not a bad thing if Foster becomes an improved playmaker, particularly when you consider that Kansas State has brought in a trio of promising transfers (Hopper, Stephen Hurtt and Brandon Bolden) and returns sophomore wing Westicles, who is expected to have a big sophomore season.
First time I read that, I thought it was straight talk ("honest") basketball analysis of Marcus Foster and his position / usage on the floor.
But, then around the 8th or 9th time I read this (I spilled coffee on my notes, so the exact re-reading point is blurry, but's definitely greater than 5, and less than 10 because I was eating Cheetos at 10 and noticed the smudges on the paper and it was way before that), I thought "Man, this guy is making a Frank Martin quip." I mean, "i'll be frank????" LOL, I read you Dog! It seemed clear to me that the Dog was saying "If I put myself in the shoes of Frank Martin, how would I break this mother rough rider down?" Seemed like a very Frank Martin type analysis.
But, then I reread this the 17th time, and I essentially just let my mind go, and spirit journeyed into the Dog's mind's eye. I had missed the point completely. The Dog, being what amounts to a current day Merlin the Wizard, is REALLY saying "Hold up, Frank Martin may say THIS, BUT oscar Weber would counter by saying the bit about ' it’s not a bad thing if Foster becomes an improved playmaker'." Those two paragraphs are the Dog shape-shifting in and out of the brain of 2 major conference coaches.
Brilliant.
Post by: pissclams on July 28, 2014, 02:31:54 PM
might have to wait until tonight i don't know. i do think there's more to this article that we haven't quite gotten to yet, something is telling me that we're only scratch the surface of this seed that the dog has given us.
Post by: Pete on July 28, 2014, 02:51:00 PM
Post by: pissclams on July 28, 2014, 03:19:25 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on July 28, 2014, 04:45:40 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 29, 2014, 04:28:58 PM
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Post by: wabash909 on July 29, 2014, 04:35:45 PM
Post by: CNS on July 29, 2014, 04:42:05 PM
Fitz just said on BITB that Foster is about ten pounds overweight. Which is like, hey Fitz, glass houses.
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He read this thread and threw a dart.
Post by: TownieCat on July 29, 2014, 04:59:11 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 29, 2014, 05:33:28 PM
Just because he is 10 lbs heavier does not mean he is 10 lbs overweight. :Ugh:
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I fully agree but he used the word overweight.
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Post by: star seed 7 on July 29, 2014, 07:53:33 PM
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:)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 29, 2014, 09:04:07 PM
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on July 29, 2014, 09:06:12 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 29, 2014, 09:08:43 PM
Wouldn't surprise me if the extra weight caused a knee or ankle injury at some point this season.:dubious:
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 29, 2014, 10:17:57 PM
Post by: TownieCat on July 30, 2014, 08:08:12 AM
Wouldn't surprise me if the extra weight caused a knee or ankle injury at some point this season.
Wouldn't surprise me if this dumbass post caused a face or throat injury at some point this season.
Post by: CNS on July 30, 2014, 09:25:04 AM
oscar is a step ahead of you all.
Post by: SdK on July 30, 2014, 09:58:13 AM
Pretty obvs that MF is gaining weight to fill the Shane stretch 4 shoes.Ala Hoskins? :love:
oscar is a step ahead of you all.
Post by: 'taterblast on August 21, 2014, 06:26:18 PM
Post by: That_Guy on August 22, 2014, 12:43:52 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvmVFBpIIAEYPIW.jpg)
Adorable
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 22, 2014, 01:15:21 PM
Post by: Katpappy on August 22, 2014, 08:54:45 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvmVFBpIIAEYPIW.jpg)Your kid blast? :dunno:
Post by: ShellShock on August 24, 2014, 06:33:11 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvmVFBpIIAEYPIW.jpg)
That kid needs to learn to color inside the lines...we can't have sloppy crayon execution from a young cat. CLEAN IT UP!!!
Post by: 'taterblast on August 24, 2014, 07:26:19 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvmVFBpIIAEYPIW.jpg)Your kid blast? :dunno:
no
Post by: TownieCat on September 12, 2014, 09:39:02 AM
Looks pretty not fat in this vid :dunno:
Post by: ksupamplemousse on September 12, 2014, 09:49:35 AM
http://instagram.com/p/s0ozbch33E/?modal=true (http://instagram.com/p/s0ozbch33E/?modal=true)
Looks pretty not fat in this vid :dunno:
BUT HE'S SO FAT THOUGH!!! :runaway:
Post by: chum1 on September 12, 2014, 10:51:22 AM
Post by: Pett on September 12, 2014, 11:53:14 AM
http://instagram.com/p/s0ozbch33E/?modal=true (http://instagram.com/p/s0ozbch33E/?modal=true)So effortless :love:
Looks pretty not fat in this vid :dunno:
Post by: Asteriskhead on September 12, 2014, 12:45:03 PM
http://instagram.com/p/s0ozbch33E/?modal=true (http://instagram.com/p/s0ozbch33E/?modal=true)
Looks pretty not fat in this vid :dunno:
:ermahgerd:
Post by: renocat on September 15, 2014, 11:54:50 AM
Post by: TownieCat on September 15, 2014, 12:02:51 PM
BleacherReport lists Marcus Foster as one of the top players opposing fans will hate this upcoming year.
Good. Opposing fans typically reserve hate for the players that do the most damage against them.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 17, 2014, 08:46:23 PM
BleacherReport lists Marcus Foster as one of the top players opposing fans will hate this upcoming year.
Good. Opposing fans typically reserve hate for the players that do the most damage against them.
Have never heard this before
Post by: 'taterblast on October 02, 2014, 10:18:18 AM
Big 12 announces preseason hoops honors: Juwan Staten is POY. Marcus Foster, Georges Niang, Perry Ellis, Buddy Hield join him on the team.
Post by: Winters on October 02, 2014, 10:53:05 AM
Post by: pissclams on October 02, 2014, 11:00:07 AM
Post by: CNS on October 02, 2014, 11:05:21 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on October 02, 2014, 11:21:25 AM
Has anyone discussed the most important Marcus stat for the upcoming year (hair: mohawk thingy, or no?)?
more important than armwear (single sleeve, under tshirt) ??
Post by: EMAWzified on October 02, 2014, 12:31:06 PM
@KellisRobinett
Big 12 announces preseason hoops honors: Juwan Staten is POY. Marcus Foster, Georges Niang, Perry Ellis, Buddy Hield join him on the team.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 02, 2014, 12:56:28 PM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 02, 2014, 01:04:53 PM
2013 First Team:
Ben McLemore
Jeff Withey
Rodney McGruder
Romero Osby
Marcus Smart
2014 First Team:
Melvin Ejim
DeAndre Kane
Andrew Wiggins
Marcus Smart
Juwan Staten
Post by: CHONGS on October 02, 2014, 01:44:03 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on October 02, 2014, 02:58:26 PM
judging by those 5 players and how they were last year, i think this is going to be a down year for the big 12.The fact no elite freshmen made the list show the depth of talent in the league, IMO.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 02, 2014, 04:21:15 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on October 02, 2014, 06:13:16 PM
well its hard to make the preseason all big 12 as a freshman. in the past 3 seasons wiggins was the only one. i could look further back than that but i doubt ill find any. i dont even think Beasley would have been...
Really served up M-N hard on that one. Served him with ice cold not incorrect facts. #data
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 02, 2014, 09:49:12 PM
Post by: renocat on October 03, 2014, 12:12:15 AM
Post by: sunny_cat on October 03, 2014, 12:29:34 AM
The purple fog of doom rises. The two headed Manhattan Monster is unleashed. Slashing to the basket, jamming dunks down the throats of terror stricken Texans, Okies, Iowegians, and Blue-birdies, and raining 3 bombs on the hapless foes, Foster and Edwards will be the Big 12's worst nightmare.
You're so weird
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on October 03, 2014, 01:17:20 PM
Quote
"We got the Final Four talent, Big 12 championship and all that. We just got to get it together on the defensive end because we can score with anybody." - Marcus Foster:ksu:
Post by: kso_FAN on October 03, 2014, 01:45:14 PM
Quote"We got the Final Four talent, Big 12 championship and all that. We just got to get it together on the defensive end because we can score with anybody." - Marcus Foster:ksu:
I hope he's right. Last year we won because good defense overcame pretty mediocre offense most nights.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 03, 2014, 01:50:51 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on October 03, 2014, 01:56:17 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on October 03, 2014, 02:01:53 PM
ksu_FAN it is good to be a fan of the Cats and Royals isn't it?
Really, really good.
Post by: Headinjun on October 06, 2014, 12:41:43 AM
Post by: Skipper44 on October 07, 2014, 03:22:06 PM
I believe our defense is going to be really good. The one thing I believe we have in Spades is ability to guard the ball. Jevon, Nigel should be better defensively then Marcus this year. They both move better laterally. Then you have Wesley and Malek they give you great flexibility. IMO, Malek is the most talent defensive player we have landed since Dom.Really? his vids gave me the feel of more of a player that excels by his combo of skill and length than quickness and athletic ability. Great news if true, this teram could use a another long wing defender.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on October 07, 2014, 03:45:41 PM
Post by: The Big Train on October 08, 2014, 12:56:22 AM
Post by: Spracne on October 08, 2014, 08:29:50 AM
saw foster on campus the other day, gonna be an even bigger stud this year than last
How much bigger did he look?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 08, 2014, 09:38:52 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 23, 2014, 04:47:52 PM
'Grats, @Spracne!
Post by: Mr Bread on October 23, 2014, 04:59:09 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 23, 2014, 05:06:28 PM
Somebody should tell him to stop saying that crap.Yeah. Pretty embarrassing.
Post by: Spracne on October 23, 2014, 05:17:43 PM
http://www.foxsports.com/kansas-city/story/k-state-s-marcus-foster-says-snub-from-ku-is-what-fuels-him-to-this-day-102214
'Grats, @Spracne!
#DreamWheaters
Post by: pissclams on October 23, 2014, 05:22:32 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 23, 2014, 05:34:20 PM
Post by: renocat on October 23, 2014, 10:17:32 PM
Post by: Spracne on October 23, 2014, 10:25:29 PM
Foster's comment is a polite way of saying look what you stupid bastards missed out on!! Eat Cat crap Birdies. We should even be stronger on defense this year.I doubt Bill gives a hoot.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 24, 2014, 08:29:20 AM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on October 24, 2014, 09:07:29 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 24, 2014, 10:02:28 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 24, 2014, 10:03:52 AM
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2014, 03:14:32 PM
Post by: Spracne on October 24, 2014, 03:20:22 PM
It's times like these that really brings out the Phogtuck in Spracs.
I was confused when I read this. I thought, "Did dax really think my post belied some type of upset on my part?" Then I realized, if someone constantly sees rage in other people - especially when it's not there - then the rage is really within oneself. Sad, really...
Post by: bballfan on October 24, 2014, 03:39:42 PM
Lol, I get it. It's because you guys are birds!Foster's comment is a polite way of saying look what you stupid bastards missed out on!! Eat Cat crap Birdies. We should even be stronger on defense this year.I doubt Bill gives a hoot.
Post by: Spracne on October 24, 2014, 03:43:31 PM
Lol, I get it. It's because you guys are birds!Foster's comment is a polite way of saying look what you stupid bastards missed out on!! Eat Cat crap Birdies. We should even be stronger on defense this year.I doubt Bill gives a hoot.
It was a s/o to reno's catchy nickname for Self.
Post by: mocat on October 24, 2014, 03:44:54 PM
Lol, I get it. It's because you guys are birds!Foster's comment is a polite way of saying look what you stupid bastards missed out on!! Eat Cat crap Birdies. We should even be stronger on defense this year.I doubt Bill gives a hoot.
It was a s/o to reno's catchy nickname for Self.
spracne you're wanted over in combofanning
Post by: 8manpick on October 25, 2014, 11:37:06 AM
It's times like these that really brings out the Phogtuck in Spracs.
I was confused when I read this. I thought, "Did dax really think my post belied some type of upset on my part?" Then I realized, if someone constantly sees rage in other people - especially when it's not there - then the rage is really within oneself. Sad, really...
You should know that it is supposed to be "Sad, really . . ."
(Note the spaces)
Post by: uncle clean jeans on January 03, 2015, 01:18:38 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 03, 2015, 01:32:12 PM
Post by: michigancat on January 03, 2015, 01:34:54 PM
http://youtu.be/bAtpZjxQ9R4?t=6sLOL
Post by: wetwillie on January 03, 2015, 01:39:29 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on January 03, 2015, 01:48:49 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2015, 01:55:00 PM
Foster is being a class A loser right now.
Jesus rough ridin' Christ
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 03, 2015, 01:56:48 PM
So he's not acting like a whiny bitch? :confused:Foster is being a class A loser right now.
Jesus rough ridin' Christ
Post by: michigancat on January 03, 2015, 01:59:11 PM
So he's not acting like a whiny bitch? :confused:Foster is being a class A loser right now.
Jesus rough ridin' Christ
compared to his coach, the grown up getting paid millions of dollars to be his mentor and make him a better player? nah
Post by: chum1 on January 03, 2015, 02:00:22 PM
Post by: SdK on January 03, 2015, 02:01:25 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: kso_FAN on January 03, 2015, 02:02:16 PM
Post by: uncle clean jeans on January 03, 2015, 02:04:46 PM
Post by: michigancat on January 03, 2015, 02:06:19 PM
I completely agree the majority of responsibility for this mess with Foster is on oscar and his staff, but I can't absolve Marcus of some responsibility.
Responsibility for what? The entire team being pretty bad at playing basketball?
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on January 03, 2015, 02:08:28 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 03, 2015, 02:08:31 PM
I completely agree the majority of responsibility for this mess with Foster is on oscar and his staff, but I can't absolve Marcus of some responsibility.
Responsibility for what? The entire team being pretty bad at playing basketball?
You think he's been at his best the last week?
Post by: EMAWican on January 03, 2015, 02:10:17 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 03, 2015, 02:10:59 PM
Post by: michigancat on January 03, 2015, 02:12:49 PM
I completely agree the majority of responsibility for this mess with Foster is on oscar and his staff, but I can't absolve Marcus of some responsibility.
Responsibility for what? The entire team being pretty bad at playing basketball?
You think he's been at his best the last week?
Oh, no doubt. That's what you're referring to when you said he's responsible? Or the home losses to Texas Southern and Georgia?
Post by: kso_FAN on January 03, 2015, 02:13:56 PM
I completely agree the majority of responsibility for this mess with Foster is on oscar and his staff, but I can't absolve Marcus of some responsibility.
Responsibility for what? The entire team being pretty bad at playing basketball?
You think he's been at his best the last week?
Oh, no doubt. That's what you're referring to when you said he's responsible? Or the home losses to Texas Southern and Georgia?
Yes, his own play. The losses are definitely team losses, not on Marcus.
Post by: pvegs on January 03, 2015, 02:18:37 PM
Post by: slucat on January 03, 2015, 02:20:04 PM
Post by: michigancat on January 03, 2015, 02:21:29 PM
Seems like foster got his ass kissed a bit too much this summer. Now he thinks he is too good to listen to the staff. His body language says a lot. I'm not putting losses on him or anyone in particular. Just on fans opinion.
I'm fine putting losses on oscar in particular.
Post by: Trim on January 03, 2015, 02:22:37 PM
http://youtu.be/bAtpZjxQ9R4?t=6s
The shoe held up relatively well.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2015, 02:39:39 PM
Seems like foster got his ass kissed a bit too much this summer. Now he thinks he is too good to listen to the staff. His body language says a lot. I'm not putting losses on him or anyone in particular. Just on fans opinion.
He's a high level athlete, he's gotten his ass kissed his entire life. He knows the team isn't playing well, himself included, but now he is being scapegoated. You and oscar are seeing poor play and jumping to conclusion that playing poorly equates to him having a poor attitude. He very well may have had a bad attitude before the 2nd half benching against Georgia. If he did it is up to the staff to get him figured out. I think it was pretty foreseeable that treating one of the best players in the conference like some 8 minute a game player would backfire. Who the hell deals with a frustrated star player by benching him?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 03, 2015, 02:41:34 PM
Seems like foster got his ass kissed a bit too much this summer. Now he thinks he is too good to listen to the staff. His body language says a lot. I'm not putting losses on him or anyone in particular. Just on fans opinion.
He's a high level athlete, he's gotten his ass kissed his entire life. He knows the team isn't playing well, himself included, but now he is being scapegoated. You and oscar are seeing poor play and jumping to conclusion that playing poorly equates to him having a poor attitude. He very well may have had a bad attitude before the 2nd half benching against Georgia. If he did it is up to the staff to get him figured out. I think it was pretty foreseeable that treating one of the best players in the conference like some 8 minute a game player would backfire. Who the hell deals with a frustrated star player by benching him?
Frank did, but I agree with your post. A huge part of being a college coach is getting through to young men.
Post by: michigancat on January 03, 2015, 02:45:41 PM
Seems like foster got his ass kissed a bit too much this summer. Now he thinks he is too good to listen to the staff. His body language says a lot. I'm not putting losses on him or anyone in particular. Just on fans opinion.
He's a high level athlete, he's gotten his ass kissed his entire life. He knows the team isn't playing well, himself included, but now he is being scapegoated. You and oscar are seeing poor play and jumping to conclusion that playing poorly equates to him having a poor attitude. He very well may have had a bad attitude before the 2nd half benching against Georgia. If he did it is up to the staff to get him figured out. I think it was pretty foreseeable that treating one of the best players in the conference like some 8 minute a game player would backfire. Who the hell deals with a frustrated star player by benching him?
Frank did, but I agree with your post. A huge part of being a college coach is getting through to young men.
yeah, notably Bill @NU and Pullen @MU. He definitely benched JO at critical times. I can't think of any other time he did it for a "star".
Post by: michigancat on January 03, 2015, 02:47:34 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 03, 2015, 02:50:03 PM
Post by: michigancat on January 03, 2015, 02:53:45 PM
Frank benched Angel his freshman year @OU or @OSU. Not a "star" player, but a very good and important player and obviously had the potential to be a star player.
oh yeah. angel was a star.
Post by: dal9 on January 03, 2015, 02:53:59 PM
But, if Foster's going to sit for not playing hard, he should have been pulled within like a minute and ripped a new one after Foster gave up a corner 3 and then jogged on an OSU fast break that he had a chance to at least challenge. Again, if you really care about him playing harder.i'm sure it's not that they want him to play harder, it's that weber personally dislikes foster.
come on, this is too clever by half.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 03, 2015, 02:54:37 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2015, 02:59:10 PM
Frank benched Angel his freshman year @OU or @OSU. Not a "star" player, but a very good and important player and obviously had the potential to be a star player.
oh yeah. angel was a star.
Not then he wasn't. The only one of the previous examples that is similar was Bill vs Nebraska, buteven then the circumstances were different. The team wasn't drowning then and Bill wasn't the best player. I am not saying it is never good to bench a player, but this type of circunstance; benching the best player when everyone stinks and the team is sinking, is stupid.
Post by: michigancat on January 03, 2015, 02:59:34 PM
Frank benched Angel his freshman year @OU or @OSU. Not a "star" player, but a very good and important player and obviously had the potential to be a star player.
oh yeah. angel was a star.
Not then he wasn't. The only one of the previous examples that is similar was Bill vs Nebraska, buteven then the circumstances were different. The team wasn't drowning then and Bill wasn't the best player. I am not saying it is never good to bench a player, but this type of circunstance; benching the best player when everyone stinks and the team is sinking, is stupid.
true
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2015, 03:06:54 PM
Obviously both parties suck in this situation. oscar is a dumb eff goof, but Foster acting like a bitch while your team is up and you acting like drama is a bad look. Looks like you're in it for yourself.
Jesus Christ Wacky, of course he's selfish, all high achievers are. I don't think anyone is better at my job than me. If my board of directors decided that I have to sit and watch someone else do my job I'd be pissed too. I have always felt that people who insist that athletes be humble are low achieving losers, or are liars that lack self-awareness, or think athletes are chattel who should not be allowed to play by the rules set forth by our society.
Post by: catzacker on January 03, 2015, 03:16:59 PM
Obviously both parties suck in this situation. oscar is a dumb eff goof, but Foster acting like a bitch while your team is up and you acting like drama is a bad look. Looks like you're in it for yourself.
Jesus Christ Wacky, of course he's selfish, all high achievers are. I don't think anyone is better at my job than me. If my board of directors decided that I have to sit and watch someone else do my job I'd be pissed too. I have always felt that people who insist that athletes be humble are low achieving losers, or are liars that lack self-awareness, or think athletes are chattel who should not be allowed to play by the rules set forth by our society.
It's kind of weird that we want coaches to be humble (in the sense that we want them to realize quickly what isn't working and change). Maybe we could ask the same of athletes? Foster could just not suck. I mean, that doesn't take being humble. It takes just not sucking.
I'm not defending oscar for how he is handling Foster, and I was furious for Frank's stupid rough ridin' proving point games that really didn't do crap.
Post by: michigancat on January 03, 2015, 03:22:16 PM
I really don't care what is done as long as it gets fixed. I hated Frank's point proving benchings, too, but he never really had a problem with effort on the court. Foster's been sorta benched for three straight halves and looks like he cares even less than he did before.Obviously both parties suck in this situation. oscar is a dumb eff goof, but Foster acting like a bitch while your team is up and you acting like drama is a bad look. Looks like you're in it for yourself.
Jesus Christ Wacky, of course he's selfish, all high achievers are. I don't think anyone is better at my job than me. If my board of directors decided that I have to sit and watch someone else do my job I'd be pissed too. I have always felt that people who insist that athletes be humble are low achieving losers, or are liars that lack self-awareness, or think athletes are chattel who should not be allowed to play by the rules set forth by our society.
It's kind of weird that we want coaches to be humble (in the sense that we want them to realize quickly what isn't working and change). Maybe we could ask the same of athletes? Foster could just not suck. I mean, that doesn't take being humble. It takes just not sucking.
I'm not defending oscar for how he is handling Foster, and I was furious for Frank's stupid rough ridin' proving point games that really didn't do crap.
Post by: SdK on January 03, 2015, 03:24:04 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: EMAWzified on January 03, 2015, 03:25:50 PM
Post by: catzacker on January 03, 2015, 03:27:38 PM
I really don't care what is done as long as it gets fixed. I hated Frank's point proving benchings, too, but he never really had a problem with effort on the court. Foster's been sorta benched for three straight halves and looks like he cares even less than he did before.Obviously both parties suck in this situation. oscar is a dumb eff goof, but Foster acting like a bitch while your team is up and you acting like drama is a bad look. Looks like you're in it for yourself.
Jesus Christ Wacky, of course he's selfish, all high achievers are. I don't think anyone is better at my job than me. If my board of directors decided that I have to sit and watch someone else do my job I'd be pissed too. I have always felt that people who insist that athletes be humble are low achieving losers, or are liars that lack self-awareness, or think athletes are chattel who should not be allowed to play by the rules set forth by our society.
It's kind of weird that we want coaches to be humble (in the sense that we want them to realize quickly what isn't working and change). Maybe we could ask the same of athletes? Foster could just not suck. I mean, that doesn't take being humble. It takes just not sucking.
I'm not defending oscar for how he is handling Foster, and I was furious for Frank's stupid rough ridin' proving point games that really didn't do crap.
I noticed no difference in play from before and after Frank's benchings. It's stupid. And i'll state again, the primary problem with this team is not effort, it's talent. Effort is a component, but they....just...suck.
Post by: michigancat on January 03, 2015, 03:28:30 PM
I really don't care what is done as long as it gets fixed. I hated Frank's point proving benchings, too, but he never really had a problem with effort on the court. Foster's been sorta benched for three straight halves and looks like he cares even less than he did before.Obviously both parties suck in this situation. oscar is a dumb eff goof, but Foster acting like a bitch while your team is up and you acting like drama is a bad look. Looks like you're in it for yourself.
Jesus Christ Wacky, of course he's selfish, all high achievers are. I don't think anyone is better at my job than me. If my board of directors decided that I have to sit and watch someone else do my job I'd be pissed too. I have always felt that people who insist that athletes be humble are low achieving losers, or are liars that lack self-awareness, or think athletes are chattel who should not be allowed to play by the rules set forth by our society.
It's kind of weird that we want coaches to be humble (in the sense that we want them to realize quickly what isn't working and change). Maybe we could ask the same of athletes? Foster could just not suck. I mean, that doesn't take being humble. It takes just not sucking.
I'm not defending oscar for how he is handling Foster, and I was furious for Frank's stupid rough ridin' proving point games that really didn't do crap.
I noticed no difference in play from before and after Frank's benchings. It's stupid. And i'll state again, the primary problem with this team is not effort, it's talent. Effort is a component, but they....just...suck.
I agree with all of that
Post by: kso_FAN on January 03, 2015, 03:29:39 PM
I really don't care what is done as long as it gets fixed. I hated Frank's point proving benchings, too, but he never really had a problem with effort on the court. Foster's been sorta benched for three straight halves and looks like he cares even less than he did before.
Agree completely. I never got overly concerned with Jake early in his career because I never questioned his effort or whether he cared. I don't like consistently poor body language. Get pissed at your coach and his foolishness off the floor, when you are on it at least play hard the entire time for your teammates. JMHO.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2015, 03:31:06 PM
I really don't care what is done as long as it gets fixed. I hated Frank's point proving benchings, too, but he never really had a problem with effort on the court. Foster's been sorta benched for three straight halves and looks like he cares even less than he did before.Obviously both parties suck in this situation. oscar is a dumb eff goof, but Foster acting like a bitch while your team is up and you acting like drama is a bad look. Looks like you're in it for yourself.
Jesus Christ Wacky, of course he's selfish, all high achievers are. I don't think anyone is better at my job than me. If my board of directors decided that I have to sit and watch someone else do my job I'd be pissed too. I have always felt that people who insist that athletes be humble are low achieving losers, or are liars that lack self-awareness, or think athletes are chattel who should not be allowed to play by the rules set forth by our society.
It's kind of weird that we want coaches to be humble (in the sense that we want them to realize quickly what isn't working and change). Maybe we could ask the same of athletes? Foster could just not suck. I mean, that doesn't take being humble. It takes just not sucking.
I'm not defending oscar for how he is handling Foster, and I was furious for Frank's stupid rough ridin' proving point games that really didn't do crap.
I don't remember what Bill was like when he was benched, although it isn't easy to guess, but I do remember Jake and Angel were not happy when it happened to them. Wanting a player to be cool with being benched is weird and counter-intuitive to what we want our athletes to be.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 03, 2015, 03:32:43 PM
I really don't care what is done as long as it gets fixed. I hated Frank's point proving benchings, too, but he never really had a problem with effort on the court. Foster's been sorta benched for three straight halves and looks like he cares even less than he did before.Obviously both parties suck in this situation. oscar is a dumb eff goof, but Foster acting like a bitch while your team is up and you acting like drama is a bad look. Looks like you're in it for yourself.
Jesus Christ Wacky, of course he's selfish, all high achievers are. I don't think anyone is better at my job than me. If my board of directors decided that I have to sit and watch someone else do my job I'd be pissed too. I have always felt that people who insist that athletes be humble are low achieving losers, or are liars that lack self-awareness, or think athletes are chattel who should not be allowed to play by the rules set forth by our society.
It's kind of weird that we want coaches to be humble (in the sense that we want them to realize quickly what isn't working and change). Maybe we could ask the same of athletes? Foster could just not suck. I mean, that doesn't take being humble. It takes just not sucking.
I'm not defending oscar for how he is handling Foster, and I was furious for Frank's stupid rough ridin' proving point games that really didn't do crap.
I noticed no difference in play from before and after Frank's benchings. It's stupid. And i'll state again, the primary problem with this team is not effort, it's talent. Effort is a component, but they....just...suck.
I don't think we're great, but I think effort matters some. I think Frank preached effort as a skill that had to be developed and I think it worked. But yeah, we have glaring weaknesses, especially at point guard.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2015, 03:35:52 PM
Obviously both parties suck in this situation. oscar is a dumb eff goof, but Foster acting like a bitch while your team is up and you acting like drama is a bad look. Looks like you're in it for yourself.
Jesus Christ Wacky, of course he's selfish, all high achievers are. I don't think anyone is better at my job than me. If my board of directors decided that I have to sit and watch someone else do my job I'd be pissed too. I have always felt that people who insist that athletes be humble are low achieving losers, or are liars that lack self-awareness, or think athletes are chattel who should not be allowed to play by the rules set forth by our society.
It's kind of weird that we want coaches to be humble (in the sense that we want them to realize quickly what isn't working and change). Maybe we could ask the same of athletes? Foster could just not suck. I mean, that doesn't take being humble. It takes just not sucking.
I'm not defending oscar for how he is handling Foster, and I was furious for Frank's stupid rough ridin' proving point games that really didn't do crap.
I don't want anyone to be humble. Being self-assured and flexible are extremely mutually exclusive. Every good coach or any kind of good manager I can think of is flexible.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2015, 03:43:23 PM
I really don't care what is done as long as it gets fixed. I hated Frank's point proving benchings, too, but he never really had a problem with effort on the court. Foster's been sorta benched for three straight halves and looks like he cares even less than he did before.Obviously both parties suck in this situation. oscar is a dumb eff goof, but Foster acting like a bitch while your team is up and you acting like drama is a bad look. Looks like you're in it for yourself.
Jesus Christ Wacky, of course he's selfish, all high achievers are. I don't think anyone is better at my job than me. If my board of directors decided that I have to sit and watch someone else do my job I'd be pissed too. I have always felt that people who insist that athletes be humble are low achieving losers, or are liars that lack self-awareness, or think athletes are chattel who should not be allowed to play by the rules set forth by our society.
It's kind of weird that we want coaches to be humble (in the sense that we want them to realize quickly what isn't working and change). Maybe we could ask the same of athletes? Foster could just not suck. I mean, that doesn't take being humble. It takes just not sucking.
I'm not defending oscar for how he is handling Foster, and I was furious for Frank's stupid rough ridin' proving point games that really didn't do crap.
I noticed no difference in play from before and after Frank's benchings. It's stupid. And i'll state again, the primary problem with this team is not effort, it's talent. Effort is a component, but they....just...suck.
I don't think, that Frank benched to get better effort, I think his message was more "you're not doing what I asked and I don't rough ridin' need you," which imo is why never did that to best player. oscar is openly telling everyone that Marcus' effort is the reason why he is benched. I don't know how Marcus could get any other message other than "this is your fault."
Post by: Blackcats on January 03, 2015, 03:43:38 PM
Has "it"
Has lost "it".
Post by: dal9 on January 03, 2015, 03:48:12 PM
Solution:
I don't think we're great, but I think effort matters some. I think Frank preached effort as a skill that had to be developed and I think it worked. But yeah, we have glaring weaknesses, especially at point guard.
Chet+goggles+knee and elbow pads=new walk-on PG
Post by: TheProdigiousTalent on January 03, 2015, 03:56:33 PM
It's safe to assume that oscar has more insight into Foster's attitude/effort than you, me, and slucat, but I am inclined to agree with slucat here that Foster's ego (or at least his perception of his clout in CBB) has grown considerably since last year. My first clue was Foster flailing his arms and flopping on threes against Arizona and glaring at the refs incredulously when he didn't get Jordan/Lebron calls. Actually...my first clue might have been in the offseason when he confessed to the media that (paraphrasing) KU was his dream school and that the lack of a KU offer is his biggest source of inspiration. I mean...who says that? Weird.Seems like foster got his ass kissed a bit too much this summer. Now he thinks he is too good to listen to the staff. His body language says a lot. I'm not putting losses on him or anyone in particular. Just on fans opinion.
He's a high level athlete, he's gotten his ass kissed his entire life. He knows the team isn't playing well, himself included, but now he is being scapegoated. You and oscar are seeing poor play and jumping to conclusion that playing poorly equates to him having a poor attitude. He very well may have had a bad attitude before the 2nd half benching against Georgia. If he did it is up to the staff to get him figured out. I think it was pretty foreseeable that treating one of the best players in the conference like some 8 minute a game player would backfire. Who the hell deals with a frustrated star player by benching him?
Either way, I'm all for Brucing oscar mid-season if this crapfest sails dank and steamy for another 5 games or so. It's pretty clear that most of his players don't want to play for him (which I'm not sure I get, frankly), and there's probably no way to fix that.
Post by: 'taterblast on January 03, 2015, 04:01:43 PM
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Marcus is at odds not only with the staff, but he is ostricizing himself with his teammates. Other/newer team members are recognizing it and buying in to Gip/Nino leadership, and abandoning Marcus.
Unless he changes, he will see very limited play. Coach has drawn the line in the sand, and either he steps up to it or he will sit.
Sounds like oscar recognizes he was about to have a huge fracture in his team, and is trying to stop the crack.
Source= B+
Post by: Mr Bread on January 03, 2015, 04:03:20 PM
Solution:
I don't think we're great, but I think effort matters some. I think Frank preached effort as a skill that had to be developed and I think it worked. But yeah, we have glaring weaknesses, especially at point guard.
Chet+goggles+knee and elbow pads=new walk-on PG
Solution: dal9 should drink bleach.
Post by: dal9 on January 03, 2015, 04:03:56 PM
Don't go overboard. Gip has given great effort, M Harris has been a maniac defensively, Westicles and Edwards play hard (especially recently), Nino does too usually. And say what you will about Jevon, he "gives 110%." I can't tell with Hurt. He could be trying hard, but his game is incredibly soft.
It's safe to assume that oscar has more insight into Foster's attitude/effort than you, me, and slucat, but I am inclined to agree with slucat here that Foster's ego (or at least his perception of his clout in CBB) has grown considerably since last year. My first clue was Foster flailing his arms and flopping on threes against Arizona and glaring at the refs incredulously when he didn't get Jordan/Lebron calls. Actually...my first clue might have been in the offseason when he confessed to the media that (paraphrasing) KU was his dream school and that the lack of a KU offer is his biggest source of inspiration. I mean...who says that? Weird.
Either way, I'm all for Brucing oscar mid-season if this crapfest sails dank and steamy for another 5 games or so. It's pretty clear that most of his players don't want to play for him (which I'm not sure I get, frankly), and there's probably no way to fix that.
Post by: SdK on January 03, 2015, 04:06:06 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2015, 04:16:28 PM
It's safe to assume that oscar has more insight into Foster's attitude/effort than you, me, and slucat, but I am inclined to agree with slucat here that Foster's ego (or at least his perception of his clout in CBB) has grown considerably since last year. My first clue was Foster flailing his arms and flopping on threes against Arizona and glaring at the refs incredulously when he didn't get Jordan/Lebron calls. Actually...my first clue might have been in the offseason when he confessed to the media that (paraphrasing) KU was his dream school and that the lack of a KU offer is his biggest source of inspiration. I mean...who says that? Weird.Seems like foster got his ass kissed a bit too much this summer. Now he thinks he is too good to listen to the staff. His body language says a lot. I'm not putting losses on him or anyone in particular. Just on fans opinion.
He's a high level athlete, he's gotten his ass kissed his entire life. He knows the team isn't playing well, himself included, but now he is being scapegoated. You and oscar are seeing poor play and jumping to conclusion that playing poorly equates to him having a poor attitude. He very well may have had a bad attitude before the 2nd half benching against Georgia. If he did it is up to the staff to get him figured out. I think it was pretty foreseeable that treating one of the best players in the conference like some 8 minute a game player would backfire. Who the hell deals with a frustrated star player by benching him?
Either way, I'm all for Brucing oscar mid-season if this crapfest sails dank and steamy for another 5 games or so. It's pretty clear that most of his players don't want to play for him (which I'm not sure I get, frankly), and there's probably no way to fix that.
Players having an inflated sense of self is not an occurrence at all. How would most 19 year olds react to bring gassed up? oscar has coached for two decades, he's absolutely seen that before. I hire 19 year olds and deal with it every year.
Also not sure why you don't get the players having difficulty playing for oscar, it certainly isn't a new issue. That very issue got him fired from Illinois, Brandon Paul.
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Now, while I don't want to simply pile on Weber because the Illini are suddenly winning again, there was a quote from Brandon Paul in Jon Greenberg's column -- which is good and you should read the entire thing after you're done here -- about John Groce that stood out to me. While Paul doesn't come out and say anything directly, if you read between the lines of what he was saying about John Groce it becomes pretty damning of oscar Weber and the coaching staff last season.
Paul was asked about why this team was able to get back up after being knocked down to the ground this season, unlike last year when it stayed on the mat.
"The coaches never gave up on us," Paul told Greenberg. "They want to see us succeed. They said, we've had this rough stretch but gotta fight through it. No one on the team gave up on each other."
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2015, 04:19:43 PM
QuoteMarcus is at odds not only with the staff, but he is ostricizing himself with his teammates. Other/newer team members are recognizing it and buying in to Gip/Nino leadership, and abandoning Marcus.
Unless he changes, he will see very limited play. Coach has drawn the line in the sand, and either he steps up to it or he will sit.
Sounds like oscar recognizes he was about to have a huge fracture in his team, and is trying to stop the crack.
Source= B+
Why are other players just now looking to the seniors for leadership? If true doesn't this confirm that these issues are far beyond just Marcus?
Post by: catzacker on January 03, 2015, 04:24:08 PM
QuoteMarcus is at odds not only with the staff, but he is ostricizing himself with his teammates. Other/newer team members are recognizing it and buying in to Gip/Nino leadership, and abandoning Marcus.
Unless he changes, he will see very limited play. Coach has drawn the line in the sand, and either he steps up to it or he will sit.
Sounds like oscar recognizes he was about to have a huge fracture in his team, and is trying to stop the crack.
Source= B+
lol. Buy in or Quit. Let's see if oscar gets the same results. Our fans will scapegoat the crap out of Marcus and give oscar more time to fix problems he created instead of holding him accountable for the problems.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 03, 2015, 04:25:11 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 03, 2015, 04:37:21 PM
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Post by: Trim on January 03, 2015, 04:40:04 PM
If you can't stand the heat... http://www.bringonthecats.com/2015/1/3/7486853/k-state-marcus-foster-is-at-a-breaking-point
:lol:
Post by: catzacker on January 03, 2015, 04:48:29 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 03, 2015, 04:49:59 PM
Post by: Pete on January 03, 2015, 04:59:15 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 03, 2015, 05:01:17 PM
If you can't stand the heat... http://www.bringonthecats.com/2015/1/3/7486853/k-state-marcus-foster-is-at-a-breaking-point
No way he believes half of what he typed. It's like a poor mans chum1.
Post by: bones129 on January 03, 2015, 05:05:13 PM
Post by: slucat on January 03, 2015, 05:06:36 PM
I'm just glad I'm so close to my due date that I won't feel guilty skipping out on all the home games; either waiting for the baby to show up or being homebound with a newborn. But I'll watch the dumpster fire on tv.
Post by: catzacker on January 03, 2015, 05:08:06 PM
Marcus should transfer to Wichita State. That way, many of our fans could still watch him, and he'd get to win and stuff.
I agree with this. But he will go to SMU.
Post by: Kat Kid on January 03, 2015, 05:13:35 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2015, 05:17:09 PM
It is a team game, and if acting like a little bitch is your shtick, playing time seems unlikely. Not giving 100 percent and acting up is childish and not only hurts the team, but the perception others have of you as well.
I'm just glad I'm so close to my due date that I won't feel guilty skipping out on all the home games; either waiting for the baby to show up or being homebound with a newborn. But I'll watch the dumpster fire on tv.
You're kind of hard ?eaded
Post by: michigancat on January 03, 2015, 05:25:03 PM
It is a team game, and if acting like a little bitch is your shtick, playing time seems unlikely. Not giving 100 percent and acting up is childish and not only hurts the team, but the perception others have of you as well.
What do you do when the coach is acting like a "little bitch"?
Post by: pvegs on January 03, 2015, 05:32:58 PM
It is a team game, and if acting like a little bitch is your shtick, playing time seems unlikely. Not giving 100 percent and acting up is childish and not only hurts the team, but the perception others have of you as well.
What do you do when the coach is acting like a "little bitch"?
THIS. Benching Foster bc his poor effort has fractured team chemistry is fine. Benching him 6 wks too late and then throwing him under the bus is a BruceWeberIsAnUnconfidentLoserWhoCantRecruit move. Weber has recruited and developed a team that doesn't have talent and doesn't play hard. And his reaction is to take zero personal responsibility and blame them. Definition of a bitch move. It's why he got fired at Illinois and why he'll get fired here.
Post by: wetwillie on January 03, 2015, 06:13:41 PM
Hold on a minute. HOLD ON! I think I've seen all this before.....Its almost like this exact same thing happened with Shane Southwell!
And that one tall guy with a hyphenated last name the year before!
Post by: slucat on January 03, 2015, 07:41:05 PM
As far as how oscar is handling it, i don't think I've made any point on it.
You guys are so wishy washy. One second you hate a player, with various insults and say they steal scollies and its ok for coaches to say they are going to burn down their houses. The next, it's he's an 18yo kid. ..
Post by: Pete on January 03, 2015, 07:50:06 PM
I am not saying anything about weber...however if you can't listen to your coaches and exhibit poor effort,lack of leadership, and body language even those outside of the Ksu fanbase/media acknowledge, then maybe some of it is on you. If you hate the situation and want to transfer, which would be the downfall of oscar, imo. You'd think he'd get his crap together so he doesn't look like a tc, fp to other teams and coaches.
As far as how oscar is handling it, i don't think I've made any point on it.
You guys are so wishy washy. One second you hate a player, with various insults and say they steal scollies and its ok for coaches to say they are going to burn down their houses. The next, it's he's an 18yo kid. ..
Pregnant ladies, am I right guys?
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2015, 07:53:24 PM
I am not saying anything about weber...however if you can't listen to your coaches and exhibit poor effort,lack of leadership, and body language even those outside of the Ksu fanbase/media acknowledge, then maybe some of it is on you. If you hate the situation and want to transfer, which would be the downfall of oscar, imo. You'd think he'd get his crap together so he doesn't look like a tc, fp to other teams and coaches.
As far as how oscar is handling it, i don't think I've made any point on it.
You guys are so wishy washy. One second you hate a player, with various insults and say they steal scollies and its ok for coaches to say they are going to burn down their houses. The next, it's he's an 18yo kid. ..
I don't think anyone disagreeing with you falls into what you are talking about with your last point, as a matter of fact I'm sure of it.
As for your first point, why is it so hard for to see that most people who exceptional something won't handle it well when it's taken from them? The fact that he is a sophomore in college absolutely matters, foolish suggest otherwise. Neither of these concepts are hard to grasp and are pretty close common sense. That's why I called you hard headed, because it's clear you just want to call Marcus names despite what a reasonable should be telling you.
Post by: Skipper44 on January 03, 2015, 07:53:25 PM
Post by: DOD Take 2 on January 04, 2015, 12:14:02 AM
Post by: The Big Train on January 04, 2015, 12:20:08 AM
I don't think it's fair to say we don't have talent. Obviously Hurt has been a bust, but our roster has talent. oscar has just failed to develop any of our sophomores past where they were last year and he has no idea how to coach them. Javon is shooting far better than last year but has become a much worse player. Wes is worthless offensively. He's alienated Foster. Nigel looked like he was improving late last year and instead has regressed. Besides not motivating his team at all he can't coach them to do simple things like not making dumb turnovers. If another coach came in next year he could still develop the entire sophomore class into good big 12 players.
quit reading here after already knowing this was going to be a crap post, wait to post until you actually know how to spell our players names
Post by: DOD Take 2 on January 04, 2015, 12:22:02 AM
Post by: DOD Take 2 on January 04, 2015, 12:22:53 AM
I don't think it's fair to say we don't have talent. Obviously Hurt has been a bust, but our roster has talent. oscar has just failed to develop any of our sophomores past where they were last year and he has no idea how to coach them. Javon is shooting far better than last year but has become a much worse player. Wes is worthless offensively. He's alienated Foster. Nigel looked like he was improving late last year and instead has regressed. Besides not motivating his team at all he can't coach them to do simple things like not making dumb turnovers. If another coach came in next year he could still develop the entire sophomore class into good big 12 players.
quit reading here after already knowing this was going to be a crap post, wait to post until you actually know how to spell our players names
It was a typo. I hope we can still be friends
Post by: sys on January 04, 2015, 06:54:39 AM
Post by: michigancat on January 04, 2015, 10:44:24 AM
a coach has to be willing and able to limit playing time. it's really the only weapon they have.The ideal weapon is never letting it get to that point.
Post by: sys on January 04, 2015, 03:32:38 PM
The ideal weapon is never letting it get to that point.
i agree. it's ridiculous that a coach is benching his quote/unquote best player (twice!) for not playing hard in the middle of the season. on the other hand, given that they are where they are, it looks to me like that's exactly what he should be doing.
Post by: michigancat on January 04, 2015, 04:13:50 PM
You could maybe let Foster run the point some. Inmates running the asylum or whateverThe ideal weapon is never letting it get to that point.
i agree. it's ridiculous that a coach is benching his quote/unquote best player (twice!) for not playing hard in the middle of the season. on the other hand, given that they are where they are, it looks to me like that's exactly what he should be doing.
Post by: sys on January 04, 2015, 04:42:49 PM
You could maybe let Foster run the point some.
i'd be more inclined to move him to the 3. his handles are crap.
Post by: michigancat on January 04, 2015, 04:45:01 PM
At the one he'd probably be happier and play harderYou could maybe let Foster run the point some.
i'd be more inclined to move him to the 3. his handles are crap.
Post by: BWebbs0 on January 04, 2015, 04:47:00 PM
Eff oscar!
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on January 04, 2015, 04:51:20 PM
You could maybe let Foster run the point some.
i'd be more inclined to move him to the 3. his handles are crap.
He can't play the point, he isn't capable.
Post by: brandochav on January 04, 2015, 04:58:07 PM
It's one thing to bench him in the non-con. But to do so during league play?
Eff oscar!
:flush:
Post by: brandochav on January 04, 2015, 05:03:43 PM
Except when that high-achiever thinks s/he is so much better than everyone else. Then they just stop getting better and are average real quick. That's humility, to some degree, fosters excellence...must always get better.Obviously both parties suck in this situation. oscar is a dumb eff goof, but Foster acting like a bitch while your team is up and you acting like drama is a bad look. Looks like you're in it for yourself.
Jesus Christ Wacky, of course he's selfish, all high achievers are. I don't think anyone is better at my job than me. If my board of directors decided that I have to sit and watch someone else do my job I'd be pissed too. I have always felt that people who insist that athletes be humble are low achieving losers, or are liars that lack self-awareness, or think athletes are chattel who should not be allowed to play by the rules set forth by our society.
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 04, 2015, 06:21:09 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 04, 2015, 09:12:48 PM
I mean why not at this point, it's not like this team is doing anything or going anywhereAt the one he'd probably be happier and play harderYou could maybe let Foster run the point some.
i'd be more inclined to move him to the 3. his handles are crap.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 05, 2015, 12:44:48 AM
a coach has to be willing and able to limit playing time. it's really the only weapon they have.The ideal weapon is never letting it get to that point.
A better coach (Frank) would have just benched him during the Ft. Hays State game and gotten all of this Mickey Mouse crap out of the way before the losing started.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 05, 2015, 12:50:19 PM
Post by: Trim on January 05, 2015, 12:51:49 PM
I'm hearing "buy in" wasn't chosen.
Wednesday's gonna be must-watch! What a change from just 2 weeks ago!
Post by: michigancat on January 05, 2015, 12:53:20 PM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 05, 2015, 12:53:36 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 05, 2015, 01:28:14 PM
I'm hearing "buy in" wasn't chosen.
oh man
Post by: Kat Kid on January 05, 2015, 01:46:45 PM
Post by: WildcatNation on January 05, 2015, 02:22:14 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 05, 2015, 02:24:54 PM
ricky d- you in for wednesday?
yes, i think so!
Post by: 'taterblast on January 05, 2015, 02:25:04 PM
Grumblings Marcus is leaving. :Crybaby:
Post by: Bookcat on January 05, 2015, 02:48:51 PM
Rumblings Marcus is leaving. :Crybaby:
Heard it was a bumbling....
Post by: Skipper44 on January 05, 2015, 02:52:20 PM
Post by: DOD Take 2 on January 05, 2015, 02:53:20 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 05, 2015, 02:56:01 PM
Would Marcus have any incentive to leave before classes start for the 2nd semester? It doesn't seem like it
Not having to ever see oscar Weber's face ever again is probably all the incentive he needs.
Post by: pissclams on January 05, 2015, 02:56:35 PM
Would Marcus have any incentive to leave before classes start for the 2nd semester? It doesn't seem like it
ya i think he would. eligibility wise, i think he leaves before starting classes here and lands somewhere and gets enrolled there, he'd be eligible at his new homes 2nd semester, a year from now
Post by: Skipper44 on January 05, 2015, 02:58:16 PM
I would put never having to listen to him talk at the top of the Peggy Pos list but I am curious if there might be a reason for him to move on nowWould Marcus have any incentive to leave before classes start for the 2nd semester? It doesn't seem like it
Not having to ever see oscar Weber's face ever again is probably all the incentive he needs.
Post by: pissclams on January 05, 2015, 03:00:44 PM
Would Marcus have any incentive to leave before classes start for the 2nd semester? It doesn't seem like it
ya i think he would. eligibility wise, i think he leaves before starting classes here and lands somewhere and gets enrolled there, he'd be eligible at his new homes 2nd semester, a year from now
like frankamp now has to wait until 2nd semester next year at wsu b/c he waited until 1st semester classes started before leaving ku's program
Post by: Skipper44 on January 05, 2015, 03:03:28 PM
Post by: WildcatNation on January 05, 2015, 03:05:43 PM
Post by: Pete on January 05, 2015, 03:08:50 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on January 05, 2015, 03:17:28 PM
So this is a real thing that is happening now? Foster is leaving?
That's impressive, even for oscar.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 05, 2015, 03:21:47 PM
doesn't that leave guys with "extra" semester they don't use?
he is a sophomore this year and is using his sophomore year of eligibility regardless of whether he plays one semester or two. if he transfers and plays spring semester somewhere next year, that will be his junior year and then he will have his senior year. he'll lose two semesters (this spring and next fall) if he transfers somewhere right now and plays somewhere next spring.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 05, 2015, 03:23:09 PM
So this is a real thing that is happening now? Foster is leaving?
i put it at 50/50 just based on what _fan said. he wouldn't put that out there unless he heard something legitimate.
Post by: Panjandrum on January 05, 2015, 03:24:43 PM
doesn't that leave guys with "extra" semester they don't use?
he is a sophomore this year and is using his sophomore year of eligibility regardless of whether he plays one semester or two. if he transfers and plays spring semester somewhere next year, that will be his junior year and then he will have his senior year. he'll lose two semesters (this spring and next fall) if he transfers somewhere right now and plays somewhere next spring.
If he leaves now, he can essentially be recruited like a Spring signee, though, right? That may be beneficial because he may have more options before everyone fills up in the spring signing period.
I mean there's really no reason for him to stay if oscar is going to screw with him. The longer he stays, and sits, it just hurts him.
Post by: Kat Kid on January 05, 2015, 03:26:19 PM
In keeping with the tradition of things leaking out to spin/justify what is about to happen from the bball program post-Frank I fully believe Foster is gone at some point in the near future.
Post by: chum1 on January 05, 2015, 03:41:26 PM
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 05, 2015, 03:48:27 PM
BITB threw out that he thinks Foster is gone by next year. He seems to think that most of this is Foster's fault and who can please a guy with that attitude/Kids these days.I was also listening to this. They are giving oscar a ton of credit though, way more than he deserves.
In keeping with the tradition of things leaking out to spin/justify what is about to happen from the bball program post-Frank I fully believe Foster is gone at some point in the near future.
Post by: CNS on January 05, 2015, 04:01:12 PM
BITB threw out that he thinks Foster is gone by next year. He seems to think that most of this is Foster's fault and who can please a guy with that attitude/Kids these days."Kids haven't changed, we've changed...."
In keeping with the tradition of things leaking out to spin/justify what is about to happen from the bball program post-Frank I fully believe Foster is gone at some point in the near future.
Post by: uncle clean jeans on January 05, 2015, 04:01:57 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 05, 2015, 04:03:21 PM
any rumblings about crappy players leaving too or will it just be all the good ones
Crappy players never leave by choice. I guess it almost happened when Frank was coaching.
Post by: CNS on January 05, 2015, 04:03:44 PM
Being Franked had its own meaning. Bruc'ing now has its own meaning, I guess.
Post by: CNS on January 05, 2015, 04:05:29 PM
1. DC: check
2 TX: check
Who's eye should we spit in next?
Post by: Skipper44 on January 05, 2015, 04:13:18 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on January 05, 2015, 04:20:59 PM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 05, 2015, 04:24:28 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on January 05, 2015, 04:27:51 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 05, 2015, 04:28:37 PM
Post by: CNS on January 05, 2015, 04:28:58 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 05, 2015, 04:37:13 PM
_FAN basically told us all that he quit the team, though.
My source wasn't 100%. I'd trust the AAU Coach more.
Post by: pissclams on January 05, 2015, 04:49:51 PM
Post by: bones129 on January 05, 2015, 04:50:57 PM
too bad we can't bench oscar to see what he's made of
Yes.
Post by: Stellarcat on January 05, 2015, 05:06:43 PM
Post by: Winters on January 05, 2015, 05:10:25 PM
This is what sucks about Weber. You have to form relationships based on mutual respect for this type of "punishment" to work. I used to teach 5th grade, and another teacher on my team was a complete bitch. She had no interest in her students, made no effort to interact with them, and then was shocked when they would just roll their eyes or ignore her when she would punish them. On the other hand, I invested a lot of time bonding with the students. They respected me, because they knew that I respected them. Sure, they got pissed off at me, but they also responded in a way that the bitchy teacher could never get out of them.:Chirp:
Post by: Stellarcat on January 05, 2015, 05:24:51 PM
:Chirp:
Weber doesn't respect/know/like his players.
Foster doesn't respect Weber.
Foster doesn't give a crap what Weber says, because it is easier to blame the situation on Weber being a POS than to look at his contribution to the problem.
Sorry that I bored the crap out of you with my little anecdote about teaching...as I likely just bored you again with this response. Good thing I don't respect/know/like you and don't give a crap.
Post by: SdK on January 05, 2015, 09:10:25 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: MakeItRain on January 05, 2015, 10:57:24 PM
BITB threw out that he thinks Foster is gone by next year. He seems to think that most of this is Foster's fault and who can please a guy with that attitude/Kids these days.
In keeping with the tradition of things leaking out to spin/justify what is about to happen from the bball program post-Frank I fully believe Foster is gone at some point in the near future.
Didn't hear his comments today, but in regards to Foster his comments are slightly tainted. He's been calling Foster a punk since the very first game this year and with Kietzman never ever ever being wrong, any slight thing to confirm that bias will be jumped on.
Post by: 'taterblast on January 07, 2015, 08:31:39 PM
Post by: CNS on January 07, 2015, 08:34:41 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 07, 2015, 09:00:58 PM
He's probably a racist.BITB threw out that he thinks Foster is gone by next year. He seems to think that most of this is Foster's fault and who can please a guy with that attitude/Kids these days.
In keeping with the tradition of things leaking out to spin/justify what is about to happen from the bball program post-Frank I fully believe Foster is gone at some point in the near future.
Didn't hear his comments today, but in regards to Foster his comments are slightly tainted. He's been calling Foster a punk since the very first game this year and with Kietzman never ever ever being wrong, any slight thing to confirm that bias will be jumped on.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 07, 2015, 10:03:01 PM
He's probably a racist.BITB threw out that he thinks Foster is gone by next year. He seems to think that most of this is Foster's fault and who can please a guy with that attitude/Kids these days.
In keeping with the tradition of things leaking out to spin/justify what is about to happen from the bball program post-Frank I fully believe Foster is gone at some point in the near future.
Didn't hear his comments today, but in regards to Foster his comments are slightly tainted. He's been calling Foster a punk since the very first game this year and with Kietzman never ever ever being wrong, any slight thing to confirm that bias will be jumped on.
I know you're referencing the twitter spat you two are currently having, but Kevin Keitzman is definitely a racist.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 07, 2015, 10:13:15 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 07, 2015, 10:25:33 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 07, 2015, 10:27:56 PM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 07, 2015, 10:58:12 PM
:facepalm: @ pamplemousse
Whatever, the guy's a rough ridin' racist.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 07, 2015, 11:10:33 PM
I'm 95% sure MIR is too. He probably reminds his wife daily about the past.
This is your last motherfucking warning Heath. Mention my personal life again and I will rough ridin' unleash on you. I don't know why you feel the need to do this but I'm tired of warning you about it.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 07, 2015, 11:15:47 PM
:facepalm: @ pamplemousse
Whatever, the guy's a rough ridin' racist.
Is he bias, racist or racially bias. Us white folk are incapable of understanding the difference
Post by: nicname on January 08, 2015, 02:52:35 AM
I'm 95% sure MIR is too. He probably reminds his wife daily about the past.
WTF, Fanning?
Post by: SdK on January 08, 2015, 06:47:51 AM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: PoetWarrior on January 08, 2015, 08:05:56 AM
I'm 95% sure MIR is too. He probably reminds his wife daily about the past.
This is your last motherfucking warning Heath. Mention my personal life again and I will rough ridin' unleash on you. I don't know why you feel the need to do this but I'm tired of warning you about it.
Oh brother...
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 08, 2015, 08:40:42 AM
Post by: kslim on January 08, 2015, 10:00:56 AM
Quote"We got the Final Four talent, Big 12 championship and all that. We just got to get it together on the defensive end because we can score with anybody." - Marcus Foster:ksu:
/thread ?
:lol:
Post by: pissclams on January 08, 2015, 01:03:25 PM
"you think 9 assists a game are going to get you in the league? are you serious? go out and score 23 a night, that's your ticket to a 2nd round pick in the draft. do you need to have the ball in your hands all of the time?? are you joakim noah? no."
great stuff as always, soren, great stuff as always
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/234821374/PetroHeadShot_400x400.jpg)
Post by: sunny_cat on January 08, 2015, 01:04:54 PM
Post by: Winters on January 09, 2015, 10:36:15 AM
lol, more zeal next time
:Chirp:
Weber doesn't respect/know/like his players.
Foster doesn't respect Weber.
Foster doesn't give a crap what Weber says, because it is easier to blame the situation on Weber being a POS than to look at his contribution to the problem.
Sorry that I bored the crap out of you with my little anecdote about teaching...as I likely just bored you again with this response. Good thing I don't respect/know/like you and don't give a crap.
Post by: renocat on January 09, 2015, 11:17:41 PM
Post by: chum1 on January 10, 2015, 08:12:46 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on January 10, 2015, 08:13:20 PM
Post by: michigancat on January 10, 2015, 08:13:28 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 10, 2015, 08:13:41 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 10, 2015, 08:14:01 PM
Post by: bones129 on January 10, 2015, 08:14:12 PM
Post by: catzacker on January 10, 2015, 08:14:32 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 10, 2015, 08:14:58 PM
Post by: Paul Moscow on January 10, 2015, 08:15:20 PM
Post by: catzacker on January 10, 2015, 08:16:38 PM
Post by: Pete on January 10, 2015, 08:16:39 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2015, 08:17:12 PM
Post by: 8manpick on January 10, 2015, 08:17:13 PM
Post by: ben ji on January 10, 2015, 08:19:02 PM
Foster man, cold blooded.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 10, 2015, 08:20:30 PM
Post by: SoonerHoopsfan on January 10, 2015, 08:21:09 PM
Oklahoma was dumb enough to back off of Marcus Foster and ended up signing that Booker scrub instead.
AHahahaahahhahahaha
Go Cats
Go Foster
Post by: catzacker on January 10, 2015, 08:24:36 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 10, 2015, 08:27:19 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2015, 08:29:05 PM
The only good thing oscar did was resist the urge to call a timeout before marcus hit that 3.
yep
Post by: michigancat on January 10, 2015, 08:30:44 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 10, 2015, 08:31:52 PM
Not having a timeout at the end of regulation was such a blessing
Had one at end of OT and didn't use it, wouldn't have in reg either
Post by: catzacker on January 10, 2015, 08:35:26 PM
Not having a timeout at the end of regulation was such a blessing
Had one at end of OT and didn't use it, wouldn't have in reg either
did you watch him? he motioned to call one and then didn't. oscar's guardian angel must've whispered in his ear to just let his best player make a play.
Post by: CNS on January 10, 2015, 08:39:41 PM
Post by: Buttons on January 10, 2015, 08:40:52 PM
:love: :love: :love:
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 10, 2015, 08:49:09 PM
The only good thing oscar did was resist the urge to call a timeout before marcus hit that 3.
yep
Would have gotten a T, because we didn't have any
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2015, 08:53:48 PM
The only good thing oscar did was resist the urge to call a timeout before marcus hit that 3.
yep
Would have gotten a T, because we didn't have any
we had a timeout there, dumbass, we didn't have one at the end of regulation
Post by: michigancat on January 10, 2015, 09:00:12 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 10, 2015, 09:14:03 PM
The only good thing oscar did was resist the urge to call a timeout before marcus hit that 3.
yep
Would have gotten a T, because we didn't have any
we had a timeout there, dumbass, we didn't have one at the end of regulation
Why so cranky? I mean, didnt the womens win?
Post by: mocat on January 10, 2015, 10:10:21 PM
The only good thing oscar did was resist the urge to call a timeout before marcus hit that 3.
yep
Would have gotten a T, because we didn't have any
we had a timeout there, dumbass, we didn't have one at the end of regulation
Why so cranky? I mean, didnt the womens win?
Your permanent avi sig thing, tho
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 10, 2015, 10:13:24 PM
Not having a timeout at the end of regulation was such a blessing
Had one at end of OT and didn't use it, wouldn't have in reg either
did you watch him? he motioned to call one and then didn't. oscar's guardian angel must've whispered in his ear to just let his best player make a play.
oscar is learning, adapting....he's becoming self aware :horrorsurprise:
Post by: wetwillie on January 10, 2015, 10:21:19 PM
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Post by: Emo EMAW on January 10, 2015, 10:30:26 PM
Post by: Steffy08 on January 10, 2015, 10:59:43 PM
amazing what happens when you let the one guy we have that can make shots, make shots. Both of those scores were outside of the framework of the offense.
If Weber gets blamed when the players play poorly (rightly so), he should also get credit when the players play well and get a big-time win.
Just go ahead and jump on board for this season and enjoy the ride, Make It Rain.
Post by: sys on January 10, 2015, 10:59:58 PM
I'd like to hear sys's thoughts on Marcus
he's a great shooter.
Post by: The Big Train on January 10, 2015, 11:01:56 PM
amazing what happens when you let the one guy we have that can make shots, make shots. Both of those scores were outside of the framework of the offense.
If Weber gets blamed when the players play poorly (rightly so), he should also get credit when the players play well and get a big-time win.
Just go ahead and jump on board for this season and enjoy the ride, Make It Rain.
:jerk:
Post by: Steffy08 on January 10, 2015, 11:05:31 PM
Post by: Steffy08 on January 10, 2015, 11:08:14 PM
amazing what happens when you let the one guy we have that can make shots, make shots. Both of those scores were outside of the framework of the offense.
If Weber gets blamed when the players play poorly (rightly so), he should also get credit when the players play well and get a big-time win.
Just go ahead and jump on board for this season and enjoy the ride, Make It Rain.
:jerk:
Or, we could blame Weber when things go bad and give no credit when things go well. Suit yourself, but doesn't seem logical to me.
Post by: The Big Train on January 10, 2015, 11:13:57 PM
amazing what happens when you let the one guy we have that can make shots, make shots. Both of those scores were outside of the framework of the offense.
If Weber gets blamed when the players play poorly (rightly so), he should also get credit when the players play well and get a big-time win.
Just go ahead and jump on board for this season and enjoy the ride, Make It Rain.
:jerk:
Or, we could blame Weber when things go bad and give no credit when things go well. Suit yourself, but doesn't seem logical to me.
call the alumni center tomorrow and pledge $500 towards oscar's next contract then
or
recognize this as foster taking over and making a play, in this 1 game
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2015, 11:16:18 PM
So is Foster still transferring?
Yes. Do you really think the drama with this team is over?
Post by: #LIFE on January 11, 2015, 12:02:13 AM
Foster was huge down the stretch, but overall I didn't think he had a great game. Bad d, foul trouble, and no rebounding. That is where his focus needs to be moving forward. He needs to keep grinding, and Weber needs to stay on him to push him in these areas.
Eat crap
Post by: Steffy08 on January 11, 2015, 07:57:39 AM
amazing what happens when you let the one guy we have that can make shots, make shots. Both of those scores were outside of the framework of the offense.
If Weber gets blamed when the players play poorly (rightly so), he should also get credit when the players play well and get a big-time win.
Just go ahead and jump on board for this season and enjoy the ride, Make It Rain.
:jerk:
Or, we could blame Weber when things go bad and give no credit when things go well. Suit yourself, but doesn't seem logical to me.
call the alumni center tomorrow and pledge $500 towards oscar's next contract then
or
recognize this as foster taking over and making a play, in this 1 game
No, I'm not saying that Weber deserves contract extension.
I am saying that Weber recruited Foster, so Weber deserves credit Foster's good play. This board was sure blaming Weber for Foster's previous poor play.
It works both ways is what I am saying.
Post by: TownieCat on January 11, 2015, 08:57:24 AM
Also, a lot of you have forgotten about Angel/La Salle. Of course I haven't read much.The last play in regulation was almost identical to the end of the LaSalle game, only Marcus did a much better job of making the shot than Angel did.
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 11, 2015, 01:05:51 PM
So is Foster still transferring?
Yes. Do you really think the drama with this team is over?
Did I say I think it's over?
Post by: kso_FAN on January 11, 2015, 01:08:19 PM
So is Foster still transferring?
Yes. Do you really think the drama with this team is over?
Did I say I think it's over?
My thought:
Someone will probably transfer.
It probably won't be Marcus.
Post by: star seed 7 on January 11, 2015, 01:12:05 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 11, 2015, 01:16:23 PM
If he indeed stays all 4 years he will contend for all time scoring and oscar will probably have at least 1 sweet 16. (yes, I really believe that)
If Marcus is good, K-State basketball and oscar will be good.
Yes, its just one game, but last night gave me hope again. I still have plenty of questions about oscar, but really good players make coaches look good and Marcus is a really good player when he does things like he did last night. I think he'll continue to do those things more often than not the rest of the Big 12; it might not be enough to make it to the NCAAs because of the terrible start, but this team will likely finish better than it started.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on January 11, 2015, 02:32:57 PM
So is Foster still transferring?
Yes. Do you really think the drama with this team is over?
Did I say I think it's over?
My thought:
Someone will probably transfer.
It probably won't be Marcus.
My money would be on Nigel. Maybe Tre, but I think he knows what his roles is and wants to stay within a P5 confrence. I don't know how many DC assault connections are left in college b-ball, talk about falling off a mountain.
Post by: ednksu on January 11, 2015, 04:13:54 PM
I think most people here excuse an underclassmen having an off game or two. They don't excuse a coach tossing him under the bus when he doesn't play well.amazing what happens when you let the one guy we have that can make shots, make shots. Both of those scores were outside of the framework of the offense.
If Weber gets blamed when the players play poorly (rightly so), he should also get credit when the players play well and get a big-time win.
Just go ahead and jump on board for this season and enjoy the ride, Make It Rain.
:jerk:
Or, we could blame Weber when things go bad and give no credit when things go well. Suit yourself, but doesn't seem logical to me.
call the alumni center tomorrow and pledge $500 towards oscar's next contract then
or
recognize this as foster taking over and making a play, in this 1 game
No, I'm not saying that Weber deserves contract extension.
I am saying that Weber recruited Foster, so Weber deserves credit Foster's good play. This board was sure blaming Weber for Foster's previous poor play.
It works both ways is what I am saying.
Post by: bones129 on January 11, 2015, 04:19:54 PM
I think most people here excuse an underclassmen having an off game or two. They don't excuse a coach tossing him under the bus when he doesn't play well.amazing what happens when you let the one guy we have that can make shots, make shots. Both of those scores were outside of the framework of the offense.
If Weber gets blamed when the players play poorly (rightly so), he should also get credit when the players play well and get a big-time win.
Just go ahead and jump on board for this season and enjoy the ride, Make It Rain.
:jerk:
Or, we could blame Weber when things go bad and give no credit when things go well. Suit yourself, but doesn't seem logical to me.
call the alumni center tomorrow and pledge $500 towards oscar's next contract then
or
recognize this as foster taking over and making a play, in this 1 game
No, I'm not saying that Weber deserves contract extension.
I am saying that Weber recruited Foster, so Weber deserves credit Foster's good play. This board was sure blaming Weber for Foster's previous poor play.
It works both ways is what I am saying.
I think ednksu is correct.
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 11, 2015, 07:37:58 PM
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Post by: kso_FAN on January 12, 2015, 10:26:54 AM
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=209845818
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on January 12, 2015, 10:55:06 AM
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Post by: michigancat on January 12, 2015, 11:40:44 AM
Post by: sys on January 12, 2015, 11:43:39 AM
We should all give oscar a lot of credit for deciding to give one of the 10 best basketball players to ever suit up for Kansas State University significant minutes in Norman.
wait, what? what in the eff?
Post by: sys on January 12, 2015, 11:44:20 AM
Foster still played pretty shitty/lazy defense the last two games.
i hope his minutes are limited in the tech game. everyone has to play defense.
Post by: michigancat on January 12, 2015, 11:45:58 AM
Foster still played pretty shitty/lazy defense the last two games.
i hope his minutes are limited in the tech game. everyone has to play defense.
I'd rather he just play better defense but maybe that's just me.
Post by: Skipper44 on January 12, 2015, 11:49:23 AM
avoid fouls > staying fresh for end of game heroics > playing good defense > defensive reboundingFoster still played pretty shitty/lazy defense the last two games.
i hope his minutes are limited in the tech game. everyone has to play defense.
I'd rather he just play better defense but maybe that's just me.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 12, 2015, 12:24:31 PM
LAUGH OUT LOUD
Post by: kso_FAN on January 12, 2015, 12:40:22 PM
IMO the key for the rest of the season isn't so much Marcus as it is the other guys. I think his little deal is mostly over and we pretty much know what we're going to get. However, we don't always know what we'll get from Jevon, Hurt, and Westicles. Nino and Gip have been fairly consistent, but those other guys haven't. We've just got to have the majority playing well at the same time like we did in Norman and this team will win plenty more games. The question is how consistent that will happen.
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 12, 2015, 01:07:43 PM
LOL @ the frankites criticizing weber for punitively benching a player.
LAUGH OUT LOUD
While this is a good point, I think a lot of Frankites didn't like him doing that either. You can like someone and not like everything they do.
Post by: sys on January 12, 2015, 02:40:46 PM
Foster still played pretty shitty/lazy defense the last two games.
i hope his minutes are limited in the tech game. everyone has to play defense.
I'd rather he just play better defense but maybe that's just me.
it'd be great to hyperloop between la and sf. but for now we still have to just drive along on the highway.
Post by: 'taterblast on February 05, 2015, 12:19:26 AM
Post by: Trim on February 05, 2015, 12:24:27 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 05, 2015, 04:38:25 AM
http://www.bringonthecats.com/2015/2/4/7982905/kansas-states-marcus-foster-getting-what-he-wanted (http://www.bringonthecats.com/2015/2/4/7982905/kansas-states-marcus-foster-getting-what-he-wanted)
Goddamnit panjandrum, your guy Curtis is a special kind of piece of crap. He embarrasses BOTC, he embarrasses humanity. I hope he has accidents in the next three days that removes his handw ahe , his sound ovgggggggggggggggggggggggck -===========================================-================================================================================oooo//////////////////////////////////////////////////0k=
Post by: puniraptor on February 05, 2015, 06:42:58 AM
Also can I get a wellness check on MIR?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 05, 2015, 06:46:17 AM
Post by: uncle clean jeans on February 05, 2015, 06:48:39 AM
http://www.bringonthecats.com/2015/2/4/7982905/kansas-states-marcus-foster-getting-what-he-wanted (http://www.bringonthecats.com/2015/2/4/7982905/kansas-states-marcus-foster-getting-what-he-wanted)
writing like this has to be one of the most embarrassing aspects of being a cats fan (that collegian article also comes to mind). reading this was much worse than watching a loss to tech
Post by: chum1 on February 05, 2015, 07:00:22 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 05, 2015, 07:11:15 AM
Post by: CNS on February 05, 2015, 07:17:11 AM
Post by: steve dave on February 05, 2015, 07:18:13 AM
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This is what you envisioned, huh Marcus?
:lol:
Post by: Cire on February 05, 2015, 07:24:23 AM
Post by: Mr Bread on February 05, 2015, 07:49:01 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 05, 2015, 07:56:41 AM
You could tell from the very beginning of the season that Foster's attitude was that he was the $hit, and from the outset I've believed that it was "his people" fueling it . . . and no coach is going to put up with that. From my observation, the whole Lebron camp thing etc. etc. has gone straight to Foster's head.
Post by: pissclams on February 05, 2015, 08:04:06 AM
While I as a K-State fan am not happy with how Weber is handling the program overall, it takes a real kind of hater to just flat out say that Foster hasn't contributed to some of the issues. You cannot just lay this entirely on the feet of, "Weber doesn't know how to relate to the players" . . . part of relating to the players is allowing them to excel, I think oscar Weber has given Marcus Foster a massive opportunity to excel.it's oscar's job to manage his players and ensure that the best player he'll ever have at k-state/meal ticket is happy and plays by the rules.
You could tell from the very beginning of the season that Foster's attitude was that he was the $hit, and from the outset I've believed that it was "his people" fueling it . . . and no coach is going to put up with that. From my observation, the whole Lebron camp thing etc. etc. has gone straight to Foster's head.
Post by: ShellShock on February 05, 2015, 08:08:43 AM
While I as a K-State fan am not happy with how Weber is handling the program overall, it takes a real kind of hater to just flat out say that Foster hasn't contributed to some of the issues. You cannot just lay this entirely on the feet of, "Weber doesn't know how to relate to the players" . . . part of relating to the players is allowing them to excel, I think oscar Weber has given Marcus Foster a massive opportunity to excel.it's oscar's job to manage his players and ensure that the best player he'll ever have at k-state/meal ticket is happy and plays by the rules.
You could tell from the very beginning of the season that Foster's attitude was that he was the $hit, and from the outset I've believed that it was "his people" fueling it . . . and no coach is going to put up with that. From my observation, the whole Lebron camp thing etc. etc. has gone straight to Foster's head.
Bingo. Whenever I hear people defending oscar and saying all of this seasons trouble is on Foster, I think about how Bob Knight/Coach K/Boeheim would handle these types of situations. They'd cut the head off the snake and move forward. oscar has to be the long dick of the law and figure it out as he's ultimately responsible for the team and the season. I'd rather lose games figuring it out with the rest of the team playing hard than lose games dealing and being distracted with a headcase bringing down the team. You think any respectable coach would put up with this crap? The answer is no.
Post by: CNS on February 05, 2015, 08:08:57 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 05, 2015, 08:09:26 AM
While I as a K-State fan am not happy with how Weber is handling the program overall, it takes a real kind of hater to just flat out say that Foster hasn't contributed to some of the issues. You cannot just lay this entirely on the feet of, "Weber doesn't know how to relate to the players" . . . part of relating to the players is allowing them to excel, I think oscar Weber has given Marcus Foster a massive opportunity to excel.it's oscar's job to manage his players and ensure that the best player he'll ever have at k-state/meal ticket is happy and plays by the rules.
You could tell from the very beginning of the season that Foster's attitude was that he was the $hit, and from the outset I've believed that it was "his people" fueling it . . . and no coach is going to put up with that. From my observation, the whole Lebron camp thing etc. etc. has gone straight to Foster's head.
Of course it is, but I don't think dax is saying that here. Kitchen's blog or whatever is dumb, but Marcus has some responsibility in this as well. My biggest frustration with this blog at times is that if "we" like the player its never their fault, but if "we" don't the player is a complete piece of trash (see Jake Waters). Its dumb.
Post by: steve dave on February 05, 2015, 08:10:05 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 05, 2015, 08:10:15 AM
While I as a K-State fan am not happy with how Weber is handling the program overall, it takes a real kind of hater to just flat out say that Foster hasn't contributed to some of the issues. You cannot just lay this entirely on the feet of, "Weber doesn't know how to relate to the players" . . . part of relating to the players is allowing them to excel, I think oscar Weber has given Marcus Foster a massive opportunity to excel.it's oscar's job to manage his players and ensure that the best player he'll ever have at k-state/meal ticket is happy and plays by the rules.
You could tell from the very beginning of the season that Foster's attitude was that he was the $hit, and from the outset I've believed that it was "his people" fueling it . . . and no coach is going to put up with that. From my observation, the whole Lebron camp thing etc. etc. has gone straight to Foster's head.
So what if Foster doesn't play by the rules? What if Foster is just being an amazing a$$hole?
Weber would be an even bigger idiot by allowing a kid who was just being, well, just being a complete dick (if that is indeed the case) to continue to infect the team with his a$$holishness.
That issue is mutually exclusive from the fact that Weber has clearly recruited inferior guards, and can't seem to get Wes to "get it". Those things are almost as big of issues as Foster. If we had some real mumping point guards and if Wes would ever "get it" we probably win that rough ridin game last night.
CNS . . . don't be a strawman rough ridin dick. That's not what I said.
Post by: ShellShock on February 05, 2015, 08:10:47 AM
We Obvsly need to weed out the potential leBron camp invitees.
I sense the sarcasm, but this is not really any different than Coach K dumping Sulaimon after "violating team rules" at Duke. At some point we have to say enough is enough.
Post by: ShellShock on February 05, 2015, 08:11:59 AM
yeah, frank had tons of this stuff as well. he just got through it. he ran off a shitload of people. had dillards on our asses. had pat bosco save the day for CK. bill obviously didn't want to be here but he got him to play as well as could be expected. he managed michael beasley which is something no NBA coach has been able to do. can you guys imagine oscar weber trying to deal with michael beasley, jamar samuels, et al? can you imagine him getting after bill walker about his poor showing on the play hard chart?
Bingo
Post by: steve dave on February 05, 2015, 08:13:18 AM
While I as a K-State fan am not happy with how Weber is handling the program overall, it takes a real kind of hater to just flat out say that Foster hasn't contributed to some of the issues. You cannot just lay this entirely on the feet of, "Weber doesn't know how to relate to the players" . . . part of relating to the players is allowing them to excel, I think oscar Weber has given Marcus Foster a massive opportunity to excel.it's oscar's job to manage his players and ensure that the best player he'll ever have at k-state/meal ticket is happy and plays by the rules.
You could tell from the very beginning of the season that Foster's attitude was that he was the $hit, and from the outset I've believed that it was "his people" fueling it . . . and no coach is going to put up with that. From my observation, the whole Lebron camp thing etc. etc. has gone straight to Foster's head.
Of course it is, but I don't think dax is saying that here. Kitchen's blog or whatever is dumb, but Marcus has some responsibility in this as well. My biggest frustration with this blog at times is that if "we" like the player its never their fault, but if "we" don't the player is a complete piece of trash (see Jake Waters). Its dumb.
there is no "we". there are plenty of people on here who dislike marcus or at least how he's been playing/acting. there are also a TON of people on here that were and are huge jake waters fans. you are just getting mad at the other side for having better arguments/rhetoric which doesn't make it "we".
Post by: kso_FAN on February 05, 2015, 08:13:39 AM
That issue is mutually exclusive from the fact that Weber has clearly recruited inferior guards, and can't seem to get Wes to "get it". Those things are almost as big of issues as faster. If we had some real mumping point guards and if Wes would ever "get it" we probably win that rough ridin game last night.
Yeah, oscar provides us with plenty of legitimate stuff to be upset about like this.
Besides Marcus, the roster oscar has put together is absolutely terrible. I joked about his Salukruiting, but that is pretty much what we have. I had hope in his attempt at transfers, but Bolden is simply not a major college player and Edwards is extremely inconsistent. Then you have the entire Jevon/Nigel mess. And Hurt. And the regression of Westicles.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 05, 2015, 08:14:19 AM
there is no "we". there are plenty of people on here who dislike marcus or at least how he's been playing/acting. there are also a TON of people on here that were and are huge jake waters fans. you are just getting mad at the other side for having better arguments/rhetoric which doesn't make it "we".
Fair.
Post by: ShellShock on February 05, 2015, 08:16:38 AM
That issue is mutually exclusive from the fact that Weber has clearly recruited inferior guards, and can't seem to get Wes to "get it". Those things are almost as big of issues as faster. If we had some real mumping point guards and if Wes would ever "get it" we probably win that rough ridin game last night.
Yeah, oscar provides us with plenty of legitimate stuff to be upset about like this.
Besides Marcus, the roster oscar has put together is absolutely terrible. I joked about his Salukruiting, but that is pretty much what we have. I had hope in his attempt at transfers, but Bolden is simply not a major college player and Edwards is extremely inconsistent. Then you have the entire Jevon/Nigel mess. And Hurt. And the regression of Westicles.
I'm not giving up hope on Edwards and Hurt yet, but Bolden and Nigel absolutely have to go. I'm willing to take a flyer on Jevon purely because we have some good guards coming in.
I think the thing that i'm most upset about is the regression of Wes. He looked like a freaking stud in the Kentucky game and at the end of last season and it seems like he just lost all of that drive and motivation in the off season. I'm praying for it to be just a soph slump and he'll come out and have a great Junior campaign.
Post by: WavetheWheat on February 05, 2015, 08:17:17 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 05, 2015, 08:22:20 AM
Don't talk about "handling" Jamar, Jamar would sulk and pout and it would wreck his game for huge periods of time, if "handling" Jamar was Jamar going out and sucking a$$ for multiple games at a time, than you need to reassess just what "handling" is.
Post by: CHONGS on February 05, 2015, 08:23:23 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 05, 2015, 08:25:35 AM
When did Curtis Kitchen turn into such a dick?
Its his way of coping with K-State being bad again. Its just not good coping.
Post by: mocat on February 05, 2015, 08:26:01 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 05, 2015, 08:26:43 AM
Hey dax, Jamar was integral to our best season ever.
When did I say he wasn't? Stupid
Post by: Cire on February 05, 2015, 08:33:16 AM
B: recruiting himself into a situation that you are one guy a way from being the worst team in the conference
Post by: mocat on February 05, 2015, 08:34:16 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 05, 2015, 08:35:15 AM
there is no "we". there are plenty of people on here who dislike marcus or at least how he's been playing/acting. there are also a TON of people on here that were and are huge jake waters fans. you are just getting mad at the other side for having better arguments/rhetoric which doesn't make it "we".
Fair.
I mean, I do think at times the narrative is driven one direction over another, but you are correct. If you can't bring a legitimate point or argument in the debate you (I) should really just shut up.
It's oscar's fault for A: not brucing him
B: recruiting himself into a situation that you are one guy a way from being the worst team in the conference
Yes, this. We are pretty bad after Marcus, and that's with Gip and Nino.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 05, 2015, 08:36:38 AM
You are using it as an excuse for oscar to destroy our program, wich I don't like
:facepalm:
Post by: Winters on February 05, 2015, 08:37:07 AM
Post by: #LIFE on February 05, 2015, 08:39:27 AM
oscar Weber=Cancer
Not really, there is a chance to survive cancer
Post by: EMAWmeister on February 05, 2015, 08:47:30 AM
Post by: pissclams on February 05, 2015, 08:48:03 AM
While I as a K-State fan am not happy with how Weber is handling the program overall, it takes a real kind of hater to just flat out say that Foster hasn't contributed to some of the issues. You cannot just lay this entirely on the feet of, "Weber doesn't know how to relate to the players" . . . part of relating to the players is allowing them to excel, I think oscar Weber has given Marcus Foster a massive opportunity to excel.it's oscar's job to manage his players and ensure that the best player he'll ever have at k-state/meal ticket is happy and plays by the rules.
You could tell from the very beginning of the season that Foster's attitude was that he was the $hit, and from the outset I've believed that it was "his people" fueling it . . . and no coach is going to put up with that. From my observation, the whole Lebron camp thing etc. etc. has gone straight to Foster's head.
So what if Foster doesn't play by the rules? What if Foster is just being an amazing a$$hole?
Weber would be an even bigger idiot by allowing a kid who was just being, well, just being a complete dick (if that is indeed the case) to continue to infect the team with his a$$holishness.
again, the fact that it's gotten to this point falls on oscar. yes, the player shares in responsibility, but it's oscar's job to grow these kids on and off of the court.
a failure of the kid is a failure of the coach.
and jake waters didn't have these problems. people didn't like him because his name wasn't daniel sams. poor comparison.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 05, 2015, 08:50:20 AM
again, the fact that it's gotten to this point falls on oscar. yes, the player shares in responsibility, but it's oscar's job to grow these kids on and off of the court.
a failure of the kid is a failure of the coach.
and jake waters didn't have these problems. people didn't like him because his name wasn't daniel sams. poor comparison.
I agree with all of that clams.
Post by: michigancat on February 05, 2015, 08:52:33 AM
I didn't like Jake Waters' attitude or stupid face. I have no problem acknowledging that's not fair.again, the fact that it's gotten to this point falls on oscar. yes, the player shares in responsibility, but it's oscar's job to grow these kids on and off of the court.
a failure of the kid is a failure of the coach.
and jake waters didn't have these problems. people didn't like him because his name wasn't daniel sams. poor comparison.
I agree with all of that clams.
Post by: michigancat on February 05, 2015, 08:52:56 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 05, 2015, 08:55:56 AM
oscar Weber=Cancer
Not really, there is a chance to survive cancer
Yeah, by cutting out the cancer.
Post by: OK_Cat on February 05, 2015, 08:56:45 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 05, 2015, 09:14:14 AM
It's like the oscar-tuck Unabomber manifesto.
Also can I get a wellness check on MIR?
Ironic you replied because I literally passed out posting that, like fell asleep on the laptop, but I'm good now thanks :Woot:
Post by: puniraptor on February 05, 2015, 09:16:56 AM
It's like the oscar-tuck Unabomber manifesto.
Also can I get a wellness check on MIR?
Ironic you replied because I literally passed out posting that, like fell asleep on the laptop, but I'm good now thanks :Woot:
:lol:
it looked from this end like an an aneurysm
Post by: michigancat on February 05, 2015, 09:20:06 AM
Post by: mocat on February 05, 2015, 09:23:10 AM
Goddamnit panjandrum, your guy Curtis is a special kind of piece of crap. He embarrasses BOTC, he embarrasses humanity. I hope he has accidents in the next three days that removes his handw ahe , his sound ovgggggggggggggggggggggggck -===========================================-================================================================================oooo//////////////////////////////////////////////////0k=
this is your brain. ASLEEP.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 05, 2015, 09:24:15 AM
Don't talk about "handling" Jamar, Jamar would sulk and pout and it would wreck his game for huge periods of time, if "handling" Jamar was Jamar going out and sucking a$$ for multiple games at a time, than you need to reassess just what "handling" is.
This is my favorite dax device; using alternative history to strengthen a current point. Some of you people not liking his body language with referees has now become him sulking and it having a negative affect for multiple game stretches, that's just precious.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 05, 2015, 09:25:54 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 05, 2015, 09:26:10 AM
Goddamnit panjandrum, your guy Curtis is a special kind of piece of crap. He embarrasses BOTC, he embarrasses humanity. I hope he has accidents in the next three days that removes his handw ahe , his sound ovgggggggggggggggggggggggck -===========================================-================================================================================oooo//////////////////////////////////////////////////0k=
this is your brain. ASLEEP.
at some point I hit the edit button and then fell asleep again because I woke up to the edit post page on the screen
Post by: Trim on February 05, 2015, 09:27:08 AM
yeah, frank had tons of this stuff as well. he just got through it. he ran off a shitload of people. had dillards on our asses. had pat bosco save the day for CK. bill obviously didn't want to be here but he got him to play as well as could be expected. he managed michael beasley which is something no NBA coach has been able to do. can you guys imagine oscar weber trying to deal with michael beasley, jamar samuels, et al? can you imagine him getting after bill walker about his poor showing on the play hard chart?
:lol:
Post by: Trim on February 05, 2015, 09:29:12 AM
So what if Foster doesn't play by the rules? What if Foster is just being an amazing a$$hole?
Weber would be an even bigger idiot by allowing a kid who was just being, well, just being a complete dick (if that is indeed the case) to continue to infect the team with his a$$holishness.
Dax PM'd me not long ago asking why I was being such a dickhead. That's how you handle a situation head-on.
Post by: CNS on February 05, 2015, 09:29:36 AM
Post by: Trim on February 05, 2015, 09:30:56 AM
Goddamnit panjandrum, your guy Curtis is a special kind of piece of crap. He embarrasses BOTC, he embarrasses humanity. I hope he has accidents in the next three days that removes his handw ahe , his sound ovgggggggggggggggggggggggck -===========================================-================================================================================oooo//////////////////////////////////////////////////0k=
this is your brain. ASLEEP.
at some point I hit the edit button and then fell asleep again because I woke up to the edit post page on the screen
:lol:
Don't edit the original, but now finish the post you passed out in.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 05, 2015, 09:33:30 AM
Goddamnit panjandrum, your guy Curtis is a special kind of piece of crap. He embarrasses BOTC, he embarrasses humanity. I hope he has accidents in the next three days that removes his handw ahe , his sound ovgggggggggggggggggggggggck -===========================================-================================================================================oooo//////////////////////////////////////////////////0k=
this is your brain. ASLEEP.
at some point I hit the edit button and then fell asleep again because I woke up to the edit post page on the screen
:lol:
Don't edit the original, but now finish the post you passed out in.
I won't edit it, but it was just going to be mean stuff that makes it impossible for him to write for public consumption ever again. Can't fitz just hire him and put his bullshit behind a paywall?
Post by: Trim on February 05, 2015, 09:54:41 AM
Goddamnit panjandrum, your guy Curtis is a special kind of piece of crap. He embarrasses BOTC, he embarrasses humanity. I hope he has accidents in the next three days that removes his handw ahe , his sound ovgggggggggggggggggggggggck -===========================================-================================================================================oooo//////////////////////////////////////////////////0k=
this is your brain. ASLEEP.
at some point I hit the edit button and then fell asleep again because I woke up to the edit post page on the screen
:lol:
Don't edit the original, but now finish the post you passed out in.
I won't edit it, but it was just going to be mean stuff that makes it impossible for him to write for public consumption ever again. Can't fitz just hire him and put his bullshit behind a paywall?
As is, your original post could be promoted as what happens when one reads Kitchen.
Remember when he donated $10? :lol:
Post by: nicname on February 05, 2015, 10:53:22 AM
http://www.bringonthecats.com/2015/2/4/7982905/kansas-states-marcus-foster-getting-what-he-wanted (http://www.bringonthecats.com/2015/2/4/7982905/kansas-states-marcus-foster-getting-what-he-wanted)
writing like this has to be one of the most embarrassing aspects of being a cats fan (that collegian article also comes to mind). reading this was much worse than watching a loss to tech
I'm sure every school has its similar stories.
Post by: Spracne on February 05, 2015, 10:59:22 AM
Does Scatcat doo headlines for him?
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on February 05, 2015, 11:07:04 AM
K-State's season is a fine mess, thanks in many ways to the player wearing deuce on his back.
Does Scatcat doo headlines for him?
:D
Post by: nicname on February 05, 2015, 11:09:48 AM
http://www.foxsports.com/kansas-city/story/foster-s-antics-have-put-k-state-s-season-on-the-brink-and-his-coach-on-the-hot-seat-020515
Post by: _33 on February 05, 2015, 11:20:33 AM
Post by: nicname on February 05, 2015, 11:26:16 AM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 05, 2015, 11:28:01 AM
It's oscar's fault for A: not brucing him
B: recruiting himself into a situation that you are one guy a way from being the worst team in the conference
This is really the bottom line. If oscar had recruited more than one good basketball player in the three years that he has been here, then this wouldn't be that big of a deal. People who are saying, "Well, wait a minute now, this might actually be Marcus' fault. Don't go throwing oscar under the bus, he's doing the best he can with this spoiled prima donna." I could give not one flying eff whose "fault" this is. If both sides can't come to an agreement that allows the player to thrive and be a productive part of the team, then you damn well better have enough talent for it not to sink your entire season. oscar has put himself in a terrible position, and he needs to rough ridin' own it, because the product on the floor IS his fault.
Post by: kslim on February 05, 2015, 11:29:30 AM
The worst part of all of this is that it gives oscar a scapegoat. I'm sure that's already been talked about but it is the worst part.fought all morning with a tuck over this point. I rough ridin' give up
Post by: kso_FAN on February 05, 2015, 11:30:48 AM
It's oscar's fault for A: not brucing him
B: recruiting himself into a situation that you are one guy a way from being the worst team in the conference
This is really the bottom line. If oscar had recruited more than one good basketball player in the three years that he has been here, then this wouldn't be that big of a deal. People who are saying, "Well, wait a minute now, this might actually be Marcus' fault. Don't go throwing oscar under the bus, he's doing the best he can with this spoiled prima donna." I could give not one flying eff whose "fault" this is. If both sides can't come to an agreement that allows the player to thrive and be a productive part of the team, then you damn well better have enough talent for it not to sink your entire season. oscar has put himself in a terrible position, and he needs to rough ridin' own it, because the product on the floor IS his fault.
I'm sure oscar realizes his failures with regard to Foster. His other failures — as some here have pointed out — the ones that have left the roster so tied to the production of one player, are hard to sweep under the rug as well.
Yes, that's the real issue for me. Watching this team sans Foster was pretty pathetic last night, especially the way we finished that game. Especially with 2 decent seniors out there.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 05, 2015, 11:46:00 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 05, 2015, 11:46:35 AM
Another, more entertaining article on the topic.:surprised:
http://www.foxsports.com/kansas-city/story/foster-s-antics-have-put-k-state-s-season-on-the-brink-and-his-coach-on-the-hot-seat-020515QuoteThe Anti-oscar corner of K-State fandom -- which accepts victories begrudgingly and demands alum Brad Underwood (record at Stephen F. Austin: 50-6 since the fall of 2013) be hired about 2.6 seconds after every Weber loss -- is starting to fear a similar straw threatening to break the back of Foster, and the program itself.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 05, 2015, 11:50:57 AM
Another, more entertaining article on the topic.
http://www.foxsports.com/kansas-city/story/foster-s-antics-have-put-k-state-s-season-on-the-brink-and-his-coach-on-the-hot-seat-020515
I stopped a couple of sentences in when he referred to Malek as a rim protector. I'm just going to assume the guy is as dumb as that statement makes him sound.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 05, 2015, 11:56:39 AM
Does Malek have the makings of a JYC? I think Brad could turn Malek into a bonafide JYC.Another, more entertaining article on the topic.
http://www.foxsports.com/kansas-city/story/foster-s-antics-have-put-k-state-s-season-on-the-brink-and-his-coach-on-the-hot-seat-020515
I stopped a couple of sentences in when he referred to Malek as a rim protector. I'm just going to assume the guy is as dumb as that statement makes him sound.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 05, 2015, 12:31:58 PM
Don't talk about "handling" Jamar, Jamar would sulk and pout and it would wreck his game for huge periods of time, if "handling" Jamar was Jamar going out and sucking a$$ for multiple games at a time, than you need to reassess just what "handling" is.
This is my favorite dax device; using alternative history to strengthen a current point. Some of you people not liking his body language with referees has now become him sulking and it having a negative affect for multiple game stretches, that's just precious.
Yeah, it was just the refs. :jerk: :rolleyes:
Post by: star seed 7 on February 05, 2015, 12:36:26 PM
And really, I'm about the only person that truly dislikes him.
Nope, I dislike him very much for the same reasons
Post by: michigancat on February 05, 2015, 12:39:20 PM
And really, I'm about the only person that truly dislikes him.
Nope, I dislike him very much for the same reasons
Also, regarding Waters, I think the program would be in better shape today if he had never set foot on campus. but he got some records and stuff.
Post by: Gooch on February 05, 2015, 12:40:48 PM
He potentially made a lot of $$ for Lockett. But yes KSU fball would be in better shape.And really, I'm about the only person that truly dislikes him.
Nope, I dislike him very much for the same reasons
Also, regarding Waters, I think the program would be in better shape today if he had never set foot on campus. but he got some records and stuff.
Post by: michigancat on February 05, 2015, 12:41:29 PM
He potentially made a lot of $$ for Lockett. But yes KSU fball would be in better shape.And really, I'm about the only person that truly dislikes him.
Nope, I dislike him very much for the same reasons
Also, regarding Waters, I think the program would be in better shape today if he had never set foot on campus. but he got some records and stuff.
eh, Lockett made himself a lot of money.
Post by: Trim on February 05, 2015, 12:43:46 PM
Also, regarding Waters, I think the program would be in better shape today if he had never set foot on campus.
This should be a christmas movie, but ending with confirmation that yes the program would be in better shape if he'd never set foot on campus or been born.
Post by: DOD Take 2 on February 05, 2015, 12:45:53 PM
Post by: catastrophe on February 05, 2015, 01:04:53 PM
I feel like oscar actually brought in decent/good players, but has ruined them with his coaching. They showed promise last year and then spent the summer with oscar and look like dogshit. :th_twocents:
I'll wager you could find this exact comment on some Illinois message board from 3-5 years ago.
Post by: Panjandrum on February 05, 2015, 01:16:40 PM
oscar On The Cats
I am a lone voice of dissent.
Post by: Panjandrum on February 05, 2015, 01:19:18 PM
And I just read Kicthen's article. Or at least the start of it. My God, what an awful person.
He's really not. We've had some lengthy conversations about oscar/Marcus.
We don't see eye to eye on either.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 05, 2015, 01:21:26 PM
And I just read Kicthen's article. Or at least the start of it. My God, what an awful person.
He's really not. We've had some lengthy conversations about oscar/Marcus.
We don't see eye to eye on either.
Well, he's either an awful person or a very poor writer, because the article he just wrote trying to shame a 19 year old kid makes him look pretty awful.
Post by: Trim on February 05, 2015, 01:23:06 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on February 05, 2015, 01:30:08 PM
And I just read Kicthen's article. Or at least the start of it. My God, what an awful person.
He's really not. We've had some lengthy conversations about oscar/Marcus.
We don't see eye to eye on either.
Well, he's either an awful person or a very poor writer, because the article he just wrote trying to shame a 19 year old kid makes him look pretty awful.
Writing something as if you are speaking directly to a person who doesn't know you exist and saying things you would never say to their face is the hallmark of a good man.
Post by: CHONGS on February 05, 2015, 01:36:35 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 05, 2015, 01:38:27 PM
Post by: CHONGS on February 05, 2015, 01:38:35 PM
Post by: Trim on February 05, 2015, 01:42:10 PM
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FNMruqoaNrLs%2F0.jpg&hash=ba5d1b3c306173529dc61284cdf55e66bb0c80e1)
Andy Katz Talking Debut
Post by: Panjandrum on February 05, 2015, 01:44:20 PM
Honestly KC should just give up trying to get into sports journalism after that. But then again I suppose if you are writing articles for the garbage that is Bring on the Cats you have given up.
He's not trying to get into journalism any longer.
Appreciate your thoughts on the site, though.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 05, 2015, 01:44:49 PM
Post by: CHONGS on February 05, 2015, 01:48:34 PM
Glad to see I was right.Honestly KC should just give up trying to get into sports journalism after that. But then again I suppose if you are writing articles for the garbage that is Bring on the Cats you have given up.
He's not trying to get into journalism any longer.
Appreciate your thoughts on the site, though.
I await his next piece on how he can tell LeBron just isn't trying as hard this year based on the TNT broadcasts he's watched this year. Front page news!
Post by: Panjandrum on February 05, 2015, 01:51:04 PM
Glad to see I was right.Honestly KC should just give up trying to get into sports journalism after that. But then again I suppose if you are writing articles for the garbage that is Bring on the Cats you have given up.
He's not trying to get into journalism any longer.
Appreciate your thoughts on the site, though.
I await his next piece on how he can tell LeBron just isn't trying as hard this year based on the TNT broadcasts he's watched this year. Front page news!
I didn't agree with the piece, so I'm not going to defend it. We'll discuss it the next time we talk.
However, I feel like the second comment was a direct shot at me, so I do somewhat take offense. But you are entitled to your opinion. I can't say much because I'm not very involved any longer.
Post by: CHONGS on February 05, 2015, 01:56:32 PM
100% honest it was not a direct shot at you personally, but at everyone associated with that site. Yes, I know you are associated, but I am not singling you out in particular. I seriously doubt that makes you feel better though.Glad to see I was right.Honestly KC should just give up trying to get into sports journalism after that. But then again I suppose if you are writing articles for the garbage that is Bring on the Cats you have given up.
He's not trying to get into journalism any longer.
Appreciate your thoughts on the site, though.
I await his next piece on how he can tell LeBron just isn't trying as hard this year based on the TNT broadcasts he's watched this year. Front page news!
I didn't agree with the piece, so I'm not going to defend it. We'll discuss it the next time we talk.
However, I feel like the second comment was a direct shot at me, so I do somewhat take offense. But you are entitled to your opinion. I can't say much because I'm not very involved any longer.
Post by: Panjandrum on February 05, 2015, 02:03:46 PM
100% honest it was not a direct shot at you personally, but at everyone associated with that site. Yes, I know you are associated, but I am not singling you out in particular. I seriously doubt that makes you feel better though.
Well, I appreciate the honesty.
Those that run the site and provide direction can't please everyone, and I really have no say in anything any longer. So, I can't take offense. I apologize.
I'm not going to defend what Curtis wrote. I don't agree with it, and we'll discuss that at a later time. My main objection is the same objection that you alluded to, and that's that we don't know what Marcus said/did to earn the suspension. From my perspective, on the court, he's been a very solid player and good teammate since the OSU game. I can't be critical of someone if I don't know what's going on behind the scenes. God knows that if I played for oscar I'd have visible attitude issues, personally. Not saying Marcus does, but I most definitely would.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 05, 2015, 02:10:39 PM
Post by: pissclams on February 05, 2015, 02:13:04 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 05, 2015, 02:15:37 PM
100% honest it was not a direct shot at you personally, but at everyone associated with that site. Yes, I know you are associated, but I am not singling you out in particular. I seriously doubt that makes you feel better though.
Well, I appreciate the honesty.
Those that run the site and provide direction can't please everyone, and I really have no say in anything any longer. So, I can't take offense. I apologize.
I'm not going to defend what Curtis wrote. I don't agree with it, and we'll discuss that at a later time. My main objection is the same objection that you alluded to, and that's that we don't know what Marcus said/did to earn the suspension. From my perspective, on the court, he's been a very solid player and good teammate since the OSU game. I can't be critical of someone if I don't know what's going on behind the scenes. God knows that if I played for oscar I'd have visible attitude issues, personally. Not saying Marcus does, but I most definitely would.
He is not playing better than last year and that is disappointing. Memory tells me he was way better defensively last year when we had him on the ball.
Post by: michigancat on February 05, 2015, 02:51:02 PM
This is pretty much Todd Stewart writing about Manny Dies recycled.Big difference is that was funny. I mean, he didn't really think Manny Dies was the worst basketball player in the world.
Post by: steve dave on February 05, 2015, 02:52:08 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 05, 2015, 03:03:59 PM
Post by: nicname on February 05, 2015, 03:04:29 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 05, 2015, 03:06:13 PM
Is there a link to this Manny Dies article? I mean, I know it was written before the internet but maybe someone somewhere scanned a copy?
Nope, just ramifications of the article: http://cjonline.com/stories/050997/dies.html
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 05, 2015, 03:11:20 PM
Post by: SleepFighter on February 05, 2015, 03:15:35 PM
Post by: nicname on February 05, 2015, 03:16:02 PM
Is there a link to this Manny Dies article? I mean, I know it was written before the internet but maybe someone somewhere scanned a copy?
Nope, just ramifications of the article: http://cjonline.com/stories/050997/dies.html
What a great account of a breathtaking event.
Also,
Quote
Dies and Vasiljevic were accused of assaulting Kansas State Collegian columnist Todd Stewart in May 1997. Stewart1s Jan. 27, 1997, column described Dies as the "worst" college basketball player ever.
"Now bear in mind I am not saying K-State basketball, or NCAA I-A basketball but college basketball history," he wrote. "He is the worst."
I wonder if Todd Stewart or Jeremy Kelley read the board.
Post by: Trim on February 05, 2015, 03:18:03 PM
Post by: meow meow on February 05, 2015, 03:20:32 PM
All of the "is that what you want, Marcus?" Is really childish and lame.
He uses, Marcus, a lot in his article. It's like he has set the young man down, and is giving, Marcus, a stern talking to. What a hack.
Also, what is Bring on the Cats?
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 05, 2015, 03:23:34 PM
Post by: nicname on February 05, 2015, 03:23:56 PM
All of the "is that what you want, Marcus?" Is really childish and lame.
He uses, Marcus, a lot in his article. It's like he has set the young man down, and is giving, Marcus, a stern talking to. What a hack.
Also, what is Bring on the Cats?
Yes, I don't like it.
Post by: EMAWmeister on February 05, 2015, 03:26:11 PM
Post by: nicname on February 05, 2015, 03:26:59 PM
We should really be PI'ing kitchen way more for this. He has a history of writing articles that expose 19 year old kids (parrot14 being one of them) to harassment.
More info, please.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 05, 2015, 03:27:09 PM
Post by: steve dave on February 05, 2015, 03:28:20 PM
Post by: steve dave on February 05, 2015, 03:29:00 PM
https://twitter.com/CurtKellz7/status/563447715221090304
MARIJUANA!
Post by: EMAWmeister on February 05, 2015, 03:33:27 PM
We should really be PI'ing kitchen way more for this. He has a history of writing articles that expose 19 year old kids (parrot14 being one of them) to harassment.
More info, please.
Known hero Parrot14 texted Michael Dixon the morning before the mizzou game after the Cotton Bowl and was giving him crap about something. Dixon tweeted his number and said "this k-state fan is messing with me give him a call" and CK googled it and saw it was linked to his position on campus. So CK writes an article exposing his name and other info. Then stuff about him, his gf and his parents was being talked about on the phog, tigerboard and other places.
Post by: star seed 7 on February 05, 2015, 03:35:32 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on February 05, 2015, 03:37:30 PM
I'm not sure I feel that bad for a guy that gets harassed for harassing someone
yeah not at all. parrot14 sounds like a bitchface.
Post by: nicname on February 05, 2015, 03:41:17 PM
We should really be PI'ing kitchen way more for this. He has a history of writing articles that expose 19 year old kids (parrot14 being one of them) to harassment.
More info, please.
Known hero Parrot14 texted Michael Dixon the morning before the mizzou game after the Cotton Bowl and was giving him crap about something. Dixon tweeted his number and said "this k-state fan is messing with me give him a call" and CK googled it and saw it was linked to his position on campus. So CK writes an article exposing his name and other info. Then stuff about him, his gf and his parents was being talked about on the phog, tigerboard and other places.
http://kcsportsnation.com/2012/01/octagon-of-doom-mu-kstate-bball-preview-links-k-state-mike-dixon-twitter-war/
Post by: EMAWmeister on February 05, 2015, 03:45:49 PM
We should really be PI'ing kitchen way more for this. He has a history of writing articles that expose 19 year old kids (parrot14 being one of them) to harassment.
More info, please.
Known hero Parrot14 texted Michael Dixon the morning before the mizzou game after the Cotton Bowl and was giving him crap about something. Dixon tweeted his number and said "this k-state fan is messing with me give him a call" and CK googled it and saw it was linked to his position on campus. So CK writes an article exposing his name and other info. Then stuff about him, his gf and his parents was being talked about on the phog, tigerboard and other places.
http://kcsportsnation.com/2012/01/octagon-of-doom-mu-kstate-bball-preview-links-k-state-mike-dixon-twitter-war/
He edited that one. There was one titled "Parrot14, K-State Fraternity Rush Chair, wants to recruit Mike Dixon" or something
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 05, 2015, 03:52:32 PM
Post by: CHONGS on February 05, 2015, 03:56:19 PM
Post by: CHONGS on February 05, 2015, 03:57:40 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on February 05, 2015, 04:00:37 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs21.postimg.org%2F5amckhg7b%2FManny_Dies.jpg&hash=14dcd609fb4415befc118556d7bc0f637d4668b1)
Post by: nicname on February 05, 2015, 04:06:20 PM
:D
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs21.postimg.org%2F5amckhg7b%2FManny_Dies.jpg&hash=14dcd609fb4415befc118556d7bc0f637d4668b1)
Todd really had some gusto.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 05, 2015, 04:08:39 PM
I'm not sure I feel that bad for a guy that gets harassed for harassing someone
yeah not at all. parrot14 sounds like a bitchface.
cant argue here.
Post by: ChiComCat on February 05, 2015, 04:09:32 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 05, 2015, 04:09:53 PM
Post by: steve dave on February 05, 2015, 04:14:22 PM
Mad about a blogger doing what bloggers do? Should just have an issue with blogging.
Bullet proof logic here gang
Post by: CHONGS on February 05, 2015, 04:17:21 PM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 05, 2015, 04:35:47 PM
Post by: bones129 on February 05, 2015, 04:52:44 PM
Post by: pissclams on February 05, 2015, 05:41:02 PM
Post by: Trim on February 05, 2015, 05:41:24 PM
Listen guys, I am sure Kitchen is well connected into the program and knows more about what is going on than what he saw on TV.
You don't know that Kitchen wasn't wearing a tie while watching the game.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 05, 2015, 07:08:18 PM
And I just read Kicthen's article. Or at least the start of it. My God, what an awful person.
He's really not. We've had some lengthy conversations about oscar/Marcus.
We don't see eye to eye on either.
Panjan, put this on
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mommycouturedesigns.com%2Fimages%2Fpersonalized-pink-cape.jpg&hash=2c2b4357ecef255d3356ddb724a86e08b286ce63)
Post by: MakeItRain on February 05, 2015, 07:12:53 PM
Somebody should shoot Todd an email and see if we can get him to post his detailed account here
:peek:
Post by: kso_FAN on February 05, 2015, 07:26:18 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 05, 2015, 07:31:27 PM
Post by: steve dave on February 05, 2015, 07:33:11 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 05, 2015, 07:33:30 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on February 05, 2015, 08:34:23 PM
And I just read Kicthen's article. Or at least the start of it. My God, what an awful person.
He's really not. We've had some lengthy conversations about oscar/Marcus.
We don't see eye to eye on either.
Panjan, put this on
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mommycouturedesigns.com%2Fimages%2Fpersonalized-pink-cape.jpg&hash=2c2b4357ecef255d3356ddb724a86e08b286ce63)
This is obviously over my head. I honestly don't get it.
Is it because I'm not raging against a good friend of mine for something he wrote?
Post by: Panjandrum on February 05, 2015, 08:36:36 PM
lol at you thinking he's getting paid for that
Some guys get a stipend. I'm not sure if he does.
They offered me one to write an article a week. I declined because I'm lazy and don't really like to write much any more.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 05, 2015, 08:54:18 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 05, 2015, 08:55:51 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 05, 2015, 09:00:04 PM
Post by: uncle clean jeans on February 05, 2015, 09:01:08 PM
Post by: Spracne on February 05, 2015, 09:13:24 PM
Post by: nicname on February 05, 2015, 09:17:05 PM
Somebody should shoot Todd an email and see if we can get him to post his detailed account here
:peek:
Podcast.
What if we got Manny and Pero.
Post by: nicname on February 05, 2015, 09:17:31 PM
A Stewart vs Dies game of one on one or even horse would make a great feature at fattyfest.
Yes!
Post by: Missouriscribe on February 05, 2015, 09:52:54 PM
i worked camps that summer w/ pero vasiljevic and manny. impossible to describe how incredibly great those two were. kind of like comic book characters.were you a student manager for the team?
Post by: Cire on February 05, 2015, 10:19:04 PM
Horse would take too longA Stewart vs Dies game of one on one or even horse would make a great feature at fattyfest.
Yes!
Post by: slobber on February 06, 2015, 05:43:07 AM
Just spitballing here, but what if, while the game of horse was going on, Trim was wearing a neck brace and continually reading the article that Stewart wrote, while using the oscar voice. You know, trying to tie it all together.Horse would take too longA Stewart vs Dies game of one on one or even horse would make a great feature at fattyfest.
Yes!
Post by: pissclams on February 06, 2015, 08:12:25 AM
i worked camps that summer w/ pero vasiljevic and manny. impossible to describe how incredibly great those two were. kind of like comic book characters.were you a student manager for the team?
God no.
Post by: pissclams on February 06, 2015, 08:13:07 AM
i worked camps that summer w/ pero vasiljevic and manny. impossible to describe how incredibly great those two were. kind of like comic book characters.were you a student manager for the team?
God no.
although captain kurt was and he's doing pretty well
http://www.gogriffons.com/staff.aspx?staff=1
Post by: Missouriscribe on February 06, 2015, 09:12:11 AM
i worked camps that summer w/ pero vasiljevic and manny. impossible to describe how incredibly great those two were. kind of like comic book characters.were you a student manager for the team?
God no.
although captain kurt was and he's doing pretty well
http://www.gogriffons.com/staff.aspx?staff=1
ok. I lived across the hall from Pero, Ty Sims, Adam Lopez and Charles Dinkins for a time.
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 06, 2015, 11:20:49 AM
Good meltdown everybody :thumbsup:
hi dad, can you maybe spend more time with us over here in the hoops story blog, and less time in the birther pit? thanks.
love,
grandsonofdaxjones*
Post by: Bill Clarahan on February 06, 2015, 12:03:03 PM
i worked camps that summer w/ pero vasiljevic and manny. impossible to describe how incredibly great those two were. kind of like comic book characters.were you a student manager for the team?
God no.
although captain kurt was and he's doing pretty well
http://www.gogriffons.com/staff.aspx?staff=1
Was Kurt old when he graduated in '96, because he looks about 60 in his profile picture :eek:
Post by: pissclams on February 06, 2015, 12:08:11 PM
Post by: Bill Clarahan on February 06, 2015, 12:19:15 PM
i don't think so, but living in st joe will age a man
Amen to St. Joe livin :sdeek:
Post by: deputy dawg on February 06, 2015, 02:29:03 PM
i don't think so, but living in st joe will age a man
Amen to St. Joe livin :sdeek:
Isn't there like a school for carnival barkers in St. Joe?
Post by: ChiComCat on February 06, 2015, 02:33:12 PM
Somebody should shoot Todd an email and see if we can get him to post his detailed account here
:peek:
Podcast.
What if we got Manny and Pero.
If someone can track these people down, I will take a stab at making a podcast of it
Post by: Brock Landers on February 06, 2015, 02:50:20 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 06, 2015, 03:08:36 PM
Weber on Malek and Marcus, "No. We have to make a decision. We're going to meet and talk with them after practice, and then talk with Mr. Currie, and then make a decision. We'll see what happens."
Post by: MakeItRain on February 06, 2015, 05:14:44 PM
Weber on Malek and Marcus, "No. We have to make a decision. We're going to meet and talk with them after practice, and then talk with Mr. Currie, and then make a decision. We'll see what happens."
This kinda debunks the weed theory.
Post by: Missouriscribe on February 06, 2015, 05:20:26 PM
Last I heard, Pero was a minor star in australia's pro league. Haven't seen Manny since I watched his Monte Carlo tear down Claflin.Somebody should shoot Todd an email and see if we can get him to post his detailed account here
:peek:
Podcast.
What if we got Manny and Pero.
If someone can track these people down, I will take a stab at making a podcast of it
Post by: Trim on February 06, 2015, 05:21:25 PM
Weber on Malek and Marcus, "No. We have to make a decision. We're going to meet and talk with them after practice, and then talk with Mr. Currie, and then make a decision. We'll see what happens."
This kinda debunks the weed theory.
Tom Izzo's a liar. Maybe oscar can be one too, but like coaching, much shittier at it.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 06, 2015, 05:21:49 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 06, 2015, 05:23:14 PM
Marcus was also the first person at practice today and that is a good sign.
Uh, why?
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 06, 2015, 05:25:31 PM
It is not a bad thing. Think is shows some level of commitment.Marcus was also the first person at practice today and that is a good sign.
Uh, why?
Post by: MakeItRain on February 06, 2015, 05:31:16 PM
It is not a bad thing. Think is shows some level of commitment.Marcus was also the first person at practice today and that is a good sign.
Uh, why?
um, okay
Post by: sys on February 06, 2015, 05:37:10 PM
Weber on Malek and Marcus, "No. We have to make a decision. We're going to meet and talk with them after practice, and then talk with Mr. Currie, and then make a decision. We'll see what happens."
This kinda debunks the weed theory.
if true, it does. the gpc reporter sounds pretty adamant that it is weber's decision. but i have no idea if he is the type to mindlessly parrot whatever weber and the a.d. put out or if he has evaluated the situation and drawn an independent conclusion that he is reporting.
Post by: Kat Kid on February 06, 2015, 06:40:50 PM
nope. Weed.
Post by: wetwillie on February 06, 2015, 06:48:30 PM
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article9466313.html (http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article9466313.html)
nope. Weed.
Because oscar is being passive aggressive and saying it's not up to him?
Post by: Trim on February 06, 2015, 06:56:34 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 06, 2015, 07:01:43 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on February 06, 2015, 07:18:18 PM
I don't remember if it was in the postgame #oscar or in a subsequent article but I remember him saying that he knew ahead of time they were suspended for tech but brought them and waited to release the info to not tip off tech.
Also the "meeting with Mr. Currie" nonsense seems similarly contrived.
Post by: Trim on February 06, 2015, 07:49:23 PM
I don't remember if it was in the postgame #oscar or in a subsequent article but I remember him saying that he knew ahead of time they were suspended for tech but brought them and waited to release the info to not tip off tech.
Also the "meeting with Mr. Currie" nonsense seems similarly contrived.
Maybe we should delete every hoops thread since Tuesday to avoid spoiling the ruse.
Post by: Kat Kid on February 06, 2015, 08:14:00 PM
Post by: sys on February 06, 2015, 08:22:53 PM
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article9466313.html (http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article9466313.html)
nope. Weed.
i wonder if the gpc reporters get tired of the a.d. shitting all over them, or if they just consider it part of the job.
Post by: CHONGS on February 06, 2015, 08:28:06 PM
Post by: CHONGS on February 06, 2015, 08:31:49 PM
Post by: steve dave on February 06, 2015, 08:35:39 PM
Post by: CHONGS on February 06, 2015, 08:38:29 PM
Post by: CHONGS on February 06, 2015, 08:40:30 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 06, 2015, 08:49:49 PM
What I can't figure out is how ultra-connected basketball insider Curtis Kitchen didn't just say it was weed. I wonder if that didn't fit into his preconceived narrative or something? Nah couldn't be.Maybe Marcus's handlers supplied him with the weed
Post by: Skipper44 on February 06, 2015, 08:51:55 PM
Let's not discount the possibility that oscar thought he could Eddie Haskell his way past Currie to salvage the season.or he didn't know Bosco is #BID
Post by: steve dave on February 06, 2015, 09:03:10 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 06, 2015, 09:44:38 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 07, 2015, 12:00:36 AM
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article9466313.html (http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article9466313.html)
nope. Weed.
Because oscar is being passive aggressive and saying it's not up to him?
No because of the 3 games. Second positive test for recreational drugs results in a suspension of 10% of the regular season; athletic department policy used by most d1 schools
Post by: slackcat on February 07, 2015, 06:08:57 AM
Post by: Pete on February 07, 2015, 07:21:17 AM
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article9466313.html (http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article9466313.html)
nope. Weed.
That Nino quote bugged me.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 07, 2015, 07:56:09 AM
I mean, there's what's there in that ol' handbook and then there's the functional, factual and necessary realities of the world. Well the realities of the world dictate that Marcus Foster is out there on the court so we can win rough ridin basketball games.
You know, I know, and we all know that many college kids and hoops players have a season pass to the Ganja train . . . You think Bill Self and Cheyenne Zulu are going to suspend anybody for weed in the only sport that keeps ku athletics financially solvent? The most profitable What-a-burger franchise in history is just waiting to be built next to that den-of-inequity they're constructing for the basketball program over there on the campus of our TSC friends and partners, ku.
Post by: star seed 7 on February 07, 2015, 07:59:44 AM
Post by: Mr Bread on February 07, 2015, 08:49:01 AM
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article9466313.html (http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article9466313.html)
nope. Weed.
That Nino quote bugged me.
Both his and Gip's quotes bummed me out.
Post by: 8manpick on February 07, 2015, 08:53:24 AM
Post by: Mr Bread on February 07, 2015, 09:32:00 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 07, 2015, 09:54:54 AM
Post by: renocat on February 07, 2015, 10:00:54 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 07, 2015, 10:04:57 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 07, 2015, 10:09:30 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 07, 2015, 10:12:35 AM
I remember Fred McMullin all the gd time
Well you probably remember Malek in this scenario too because you're a detail oriented Cat.
Post by: Pete on February 07, 2015, 11:19:53 AM
I remember Fred McMullin all the gd time
Well you probably remember Malek in this scenario too because you're a detail oriented Cat.
Great points by both of you.
Post by: UCHADBRO on February 07, 2015, 11:26:35 AM
Post by: dal9 on February 07, 2015, 11:45:29 AM
Post by: wetwillie on February 07, 2015, 12:02:22 PM
^mustve heard wrong...there are no girls up to MF2's standards that locate in Lubbock, especially in the light of day...
Do you even groupie bro?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 07, 2015, 01:03:08 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 07, 2015, 01:07:21 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on February 07, 2015, 01:18:41 PM
Seriously though are we the most drug tested team in America?
Nope. The breads had two starters out with injury and when they were scheduled to be back they both got suspended 3 more games for smoking doobies.
Post by: Mr Bread on February 07, 2015, 01:23:12 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 07, 2015, 01:24:05 PM
https://twitter.com/kwchdani/status/564066597963182080
i guess the meeting with mr currie didnt go so well
Post by: slobber on February 07, 2015, 01:30:58 PM
Post by: Spracne on February 07, 2015, 01:35:44 PM
I know we are all thinking it, but how stupid is that he calls him Mr. Currie? On a scale of 1-7, 5? It's pretty odd, isn't it?
Yeah, it is weird. Sounds contrived.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 07, 2015, 01:42:23 PM
Post by: steve dave on February 07, 2015, 05:40:58 PM
Post by: Pete on February 07, 2015, 06:05:04 PM
Because he's a huge weirdo who also happens to suck complete ass at basketball coaching
Very accurate description
Post by: bballfan on February 07, 2015, 06:13:17 PM
So is it normal to Photoshop players out of promotionals when they are suspended?
Post by: sunny_cat on February 07, 2015, 06:13:52 PM
Post by: CNS on February 07, 2015, 06:15:20 PM
Post by: Jabeez on February 07, 2015, 06:18:12 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi48.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff224%2Fmvoss156%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20150207_164049_zpsurgxkwsy.jpg&hash=f049e1fb220b35adbd393b1fcba60504dd79370c)(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F15%2F02%2F07%2F3d94b1a66459a5452302ff7ec68f5b45.jpg&hash=c656de26c69af154ba60f4d7328cd84dd2ff73ad)
So is it normal to Photoshop players out of promotionals when they are suspended?
No mens bball poster
Post by: Mr Bread on February 07, 2015, 06:19:31 PM
Post by: CNS on February 07, 2015, 06:19:47 PM
Post by: sunny_cat on February 07, 2015, 06:21:41 PM
What did the original look like? Post it.
same thing but with Marcus dunking instead of Nigel
Post by: wetwillie on February 07, 2015, 06:34:06 PM
Post by: Trim on February 07, 2015, 06:35:13 PM
https://twitter.com/rynjrgr/status/564176852311236609
Post by: Rabid Cow on February 07, 2015, 06:54:24 PM
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article9466313.html (http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article9466313.html)
nope. Weed.
That's our senior leadership right there... :facepalm:
That Nino quote bugged me.
Both his and Gip's quotes bummed me out.
Post by: Trim on February 07, 2015, 11:53:29 PM
Post by: bones129 on February 07, 2015, 11:59:26 PM
One of you heroes should remix kitchen's entire piece and make it something along the lines of "is this what you wanted, John Currie?"
:thumbs:
Post by: kso_FAN on February 09, 2015, 11:21:08 AM
Post by: Trim on February 09, 2015, 11:26:05 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 09, 2015, 11:29:08 AM
oscar is getting all up inside west virginia's heads.
I'm sure Huggins has no idea what he's going to do Wednesday with this new information.
Post by: michigancat on February 09, 2015, 11:30:00 AM
Post by: Trim on February 09, 2015, 11:31:26 AM
https://twitter.com/RealMikeT/status/564831562814865408
https://twitter.com/Turnksu/status/564835539073761280
Post by: kso_FAN on February 09, 2015, 11:33:40 AM
Post by: dal9 on February 09, 2015, 11:48:06 AM
Post by: CNS on February 09, 2015, 11:50:11 AM
Post by: nicname on February 09, 2015, 11:53:57 AM
Unfortunately, some KSU insiders are starting to break this thing wide open.
https://twitter.com/RealMikeT/status/564831562814865408
https://twitter.com/Turnksu/status/564835539073761280
RealMikeT blocked me. I don't have any clue as to why.
Post by: pissclams on February 09, 2015, 12:37:11 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 09, 2015, 12:41:15 PM
I'm just spitballing here, but it might have something to do with hating anyone who's affiliated with gE. From what he told me one time: "Message boards are for children. The ppl who get on there are weirdos. "Unfortunately, some KSU insiders are starting to break this thing wide open.
https://twitter.com/RealMikeT/status/564831562814865408
https://twitter.com/Turnksu/status/564835539073761280
RealMikeT blocked me. I don't have any clue as to why.
Post by: HerrSonntag on February 09, 2015, 12:44:57 PM
Post by: PowercatPat on February 09, 2015, 01:09:56 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 09, 2015, 01:45:38 PM
Unfortunately, some KSU insiders are starting to break this thing wide open.
https://twitter.com/RealMikeT/status/564831562814865408
https://twitter.com/Turnksu/status/564835539073761280
RealMikeT blocked me. I don't have any clue as to why.
yeah he isn't real thrilled with anyone or anything GE.
Post by: Kat Kid on February 09, 2015, 01:58:56 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on February 09, 2015, 02:10:01 PM
Should I know him?
Post by: EMAWmeister on February 09, 2015, 03:52:14 PM
I've heard that Marcus and Malek were out past curfew in Lubbock drinking and/or smoking and did not make it back to the hotel unnoticed.
This seems more likely. If it was a failed drug test, neither would have traveled.
Post by: sunny_cat on February 09, 2015, 03:54:03 PM
I've heard that Marcus and Malek were out past curfew in Lubbock drinking and/or smoking and did not make it back to the hotel unnoticed.
This seems more likely. If it was a failed drug test, neither would have traveled.
uchadbro said something like this
I heard Marcus left the hotel and got caught bringing girls back at 7:30 in the morning....
Post by: 'taterblast on February 09, 2015, 03:55:01 PM
Post by: EMAWmeister on February 09, 2015, 03:59:57 PM
maybe foster had some high school friends at TTU he wanted to hang out with :dunno:
Kinda what I was thinking. Definitely stupid, but not something to be publicly shamed for. But, we are who we are. Never change, K-State.
Post by: 'taterblast on February 09, 2015, 04:01:33 PM
Post by: CHONGS on February 09, 2015, 04:03:50 PM
2 for 2
Post by: michigancat on February 09, 2015, 04:05:45 PM
Sounds like Marcus was fostering some inappropriate relationships
2 for 2
I wonder if "handlers" were involved. :fatty:
Post by: Yard Dog on February 09, 2015, 04:07:39 PM
In fairness this suspension shouldn't be held against the coach. What you can blame Weber for is not coaching these guys to want to play hard and be responsible adults. It frustrates me because Marcus is really talented but I don't how to feel about his obvious complete disregard for the behavior expected of a scholarship athlete. Foster's MO is that he was super talented but overlooked. That he came to K-State to prove all the doubters wrong. I remember how excited he was to have the BTF because he could go shoot whenever he wanted and train really hard. Now he is going to piss that away to do dumb crap with his friends? That is fine if you are just some guy getting his art degree over the course of six years (guilty right here) but for someone who is the face of a program at a university that loves integrity. . . it is not appropriate whatsoever.
I can only think if Brad were here he would have straightened him out at the first sign of trouble. And inspired him to want to be something better.
Post by: sunny_cat on February 09, 2015, 04:11:09 PM
Post by: CHONGS on February 09, 2015, 04:12:21 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on February 09, 2015, 04:13:32 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 09, 2015, 04:14:16 PM
Post by: Yard Dog on February 09, 2015, 04:15:13 PM
Does our university love integrity? Really?
You are right. I should have worded it that our university thrives on the appearance of integrity as a core value.
Post by: Yard Dog on February 09, 2015, 04:20:11 PM
I thought it was a very cool post, yard dog.
I appreciate it. :cheers:
As someone who loved playing sports but who would have barely made the roster at Bethel, it always gets under my skin when extremely talented kids piss away the opportunity to do something really special at the next level. And my extremely high monthly student loan payments means it gets under my skin that they are willing to throw away that full ride and meals at the Training Table. Kids will be kids, but it is EMAW not EBAW.
Post by: Mr Bread on February 09, 2015, 04:20:56 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on February 09, 2015, 04:25:59 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on February 09, 2015, 04:34:47 PM
On the one hand, if you think KSU has never had student athletes pull this kinda stuff, you're crazy. On the other hand I had do watch a very hungover Josh Freeman mump up and lose a home game to KU because Prince let him do whatever he wanted.
Frank woulda just made him run lotsa stairs... is oscar anti-stairs? Bottom line is oscar is a pussy and no one respects him.
You can get mad at Marcus all you want, talk about what a waste of talent he is, but Marcus doesn't make a seven figure salary to be there, oscar is. It's Bruces job to get this crap figured out not piss away the season in the process.
Post by: Mr Bread on February 09, 2015, 04:40:08 PM
i didn't read Yard Dog's post but yeah, if that's true then they absolutely deserved to be suspended because they're rough ridin' idiots.
For trying to party on the dl? They are college kids in addition to being oscar's indentured servants. You should probably scream at them for having erections next. Weirdo.
Post by: Kat Kid on February 09, 2015, 04:44:59 PM
Post by: Yard Dog on February 09, 2015, 04:46:18 PM
i didn't read Yard Dog's post but yeah, if that's true then they absolutely deserved to be suspended because they're rough ridin' idiots.
For trying to party on the dl? They are college kids in addition to being oscar's indentured servants. You should probably scream at them for having erections next. Weirdo.
There is a vast difference from partying on the dl in mhk on a random night and sneaking out to party from the team hotel at an away game.
Post by: sys on February 09, 2015, 05:08:44 PM
iirc correctly, the martin players that sat out their three games were on the bench. it's weird to me that that the current players aren't on the bench.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 09, 2015, 05:09:46 PM
why wouldn't the players travel with the team when suspended? if i were the coach i'd certainly want them as connected to the team as possible during their suspensions. and i'd also want them to not miss practice (i don't believe they have to miss practice, dunno).Were in the locker room.
iirc correctly, the martin players that sat out their three games were on the bench. it's weird to me that that the current players aren't on the bench.
Post by: sys on February 09, 2015, 05:10:04 PM
Hey everyone wouldnt it be weird that both Marcus and Malek got suspended 3 games which just happens to be the # of games people are suspended for a failed drug test?
kstaters, kk. you just can't save them from themselves.
Post by: sys on February 09, 2015, 05:11:05 PM
Were in the locker room.
right. that's weird.
Post by: Mr Bread on February 09, 2015, 05:27:21 PM
Were in the locker room.
right. that's weird.
Very.
Post by: 'taterblast on February 09, 2015, 05:27:45 PM
i didn't read Yard Dog's post but yeah, if that's true then they absolutely deserved to be suspended because they're rough ridin' idiots.
For trying to party on the dl? They are college kids in addition to being oscar's indentured servants. You should probably scream at them for having erections next. Weirdo.
yes, to your question. they are idiots if they snuck out and "tried to party" the night before a game on the road.
Post by: 'taterblast on February 09, 2015, 05:28:59 PM
Hey everyone wouldnt it be weird that both Marcus and Malek got suspended 3 games which just happens to be the # of games people are suspended for a failed drug test?
there may be other things that 'require' 3 game suspensions, but i do agree with what you're saying.
Post by: Trim on February 09, 2015, 05:34:22 PM
Dave & Busters (KCK) when in KC.
That rough ridin' awful "steakhouse" in Ames.
McDonald's in Brazil.
That said, obviously it's a 3-game drug suspension that had nothing to do with Lubbock.
Post by: Mr Bread on February 09, 2015, 05:41:13 PM
i didn't read Yard Dog's post but yeah, if that's true then they absolutely deserved to be suspended because they're rough ridin' idiots.
For trying to party on the dl? They are college kids in addition to being oscar's indentured servants. You should probably scream at them for having erections next. Weirdo.
yes, to your question. they are idiots if they snuck out and "tried to party" the night before a game on the road.
Look sneaking out doesn't mean they got shitty drunk and came stumbling back in no condition to play the next day, so #leanback on your snarky quotation marks. Having a curfew in college isn't common for the overwheming majority of students. It's not surprising that they might try to break it on occasion.
I get that they're just supposed to suck oscar's crap because the system says so, but I don't think that makes them rough ridin' idiots. I could envision a scenario where if oscar Weber were telling me what to do in college I might have issues with it even if it ran counter to my best interests. I would imagine that the urge to say eff your crap oscar is pretty overwhelming at times. You're quite the judgy sonofabitch on this.
Post by: Mr Bread on February 09, 2015, 05:41:39 PM
Here's what I know of KSU hoops road trips under oscar:
Dave & Busters (KCK) when in KC.
That rough ridin' awful "steakhouse" in Ames.
McDonald's in Brazil.
That said, obviously it's a 3-game drug suspension that had nothing to do with Lubbock.
Yes.
Post by: Mr Bread on February 09, 2015, 05:43:10 PM
You guys get boners? WTF you rough ridin' loser idiots!!
Post by: Cire on February 09, 2015, 05:43:41 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on February 09, 2015, 05:49:30 PM
i didn't read Yard Dog's post but yeah, if that's true then they absolutely deserved to be suspended because they're rough ridin' idiots.
For trying to party on the dl? They are college kids in addition to being oscar's indentured servants. You should probably scream at them for having erections next. Weirdo.
yes, to your question. they are idiots if they snuck out and "tried to party" the night before a game on the road.
Look sneaking out doesn't mean they got shitty drunk and came stumbling back in no condition to play the next day, so #leanback on your snarky quotation marks. Having a curfew in college isn't common for the overwheming majority of students. It's not surprising that they might try to break it on occasion.
I get that they're just supposed to suck oscar's crap because the system says so, but I don't think that makes them rough ridin' idiots. I could envision a scenario where if oscar Weber were telling me what to do in college I might have issues with it even if it ran counter to my best interests. I would imagine that the urge to say eff your crap oscar is pretty overwhelming at times. You're quite the judgy sonofabitch on this.
it has nothing to do with oscar, and i don't care if they were getting wasted or not. it's a pretty standard night-before-game curfew, every team in the world has one. it is stupid to break that. if they did that, that means they did a stupid thing, so i get to call them idiots.
Post by: 'taterblast on February 09, 2015, 05:54:01 PM
Also:You guys get boners? WTF you rough ridin' loser idiots!!
well this is a weird post
Post by: Pete on February 09, 2015, 06:03:14 PM
Post by: Trim on February 09, 2015, 06:08:37 PM
That real miket guy banned me too! My random, infrequent, awesome tweets aren't his cup of tea I guess. Oh well, he snoozes he loses.
Joke's on you, Pete. It was YOU that was missing out on HIS between-the-lines insight, at least until that premium tweet got posted here, resulting in you being a few minutes behind on knowing M&M's suspension would run through the WV game.
Post by: Pete on February 09, 2015, 06:10:32 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on February 09, 2015, 08:01:59 PM
Also:You guys get boners? WTF you rough ridin' loser idiots!!
well this is a weird post
The logical extension of your ivory tower judgments. :dunno:
Post by: 'taterblast on February 09, 2015, 08:10:04 PM
Also:You guys get boners? WTF you rough ridin' loser idiots!!
well this is a weird post
The logical extension of your ivory tower judgments. :dunno:
if they got boners while breaking curfew the night before a d1 basketball game then yeah, they were idiots while getting those boners.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 09, 2015, 09:36:29 PM
I'm a little torn on this kinda thing.
On the one hand, if you think KSU has never had student athletes pull this kinda stuff, you're crazy. On the other hand I had do watch a very hungover Josh Freeman mump up and lose a home game to KU because Prince let him do whatever he wanted.
Frank woulda just made him run lotsa stairs... is oscar anti-stairs? Bottom line is oscar is a pussy and no one respects him.
You can get mad at Marcus all you want, talk about what a waste of talent he is, but Marcus doesn't make a seven figure salary to be there, oscar is. It's Bruces job to get this crap figured out not piss away the season in the process.
Never knew that. Short sighted on Josh's end because it was an 11 AM kick.
Post by: BackPayne on February 09, 2015, 09:48:02 PM
Post by: bones129 on February 09, 2015, 09:50:01 PM
So when do we hear of Marcus transferring?
Soon after the season ends would be my guess.
Post by: HerrSonntag on February 09, 2015, 09:50:18 PM
My thoughts exactlyI'm a little torn on this kinda thing.
On the one hand, if you think KSU has never had student athletes pull this kinda stuff, you're crazy. On the other hand I had do watch a very hungover Josh Freeman mump up and lose a home game to KU because Prince let him do whatever he wanted.
Frank woulda just made him run lotsa stairs... is oscar anti-stairs? Bottom line is oscar is a pussy and no one respects him.
You can get mad at Marcus all you want, talk about what a waste of talent he is, but Marcus doesn't make a seven figure salary to be there, oscar is. It's Bruces job to get this crap figured out not piss away the season in the process.
Never knew that. Short sighted on Josh's end because it was an 11 AM kick.
Post by: michigancat on February 10, 2015, 07:29:19 AM
Post by: kslim on February 10, 2015, 07:33:52 AM
Freeman threw for over 300 yards that game.he also threw three picks and had two fumbles
Post by: michigancat on February 10, 2015, 07:48:08 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 10, 2015, 08:08:24 AM
Yeah, he struggled with turnovers all season. To me, if you can throw for 300 yards against a very good team, it's hard to blame a loss on an alleged hangover.
Except for when you also turn the ball over 5 times. Then it's pretty easy.
Post by: michigancat on February 10, 2015, 08:19:25 AM
Freeman didn't turn it over five times, so...Yeah, he struggled with turnovers all season. To me, if you can throw for 300 yards against a very good team, it's hard to blame a loss on an alleged hangover.
Except for when you also turn the ball over 5 times. Then it's pretty easy.
Post by: kslim on February 10, 2015, 08:32:19 AM
no, he didnt. he turned it over three times (at the worst times) I couldnt care less about him being hungover, my point was he didnt play that well.Freeman didn't turn it over five times, so...Yeah, he struggled with turnovers all season. To me, if you can throw for 300 yards against a very good team, it's hard to blame a loss on an alleged hangover.
Except for when you also turn the ball over 5 times. Then it's pretty easy.
Post by: michigancat on February 10, 2015, 08:44:32 AM
And my point is that the 305 yards wouldn't have been possible if he wasn't functioning at a reasonably high level, with or without crucial mistakes.no, he didnt. he turned it over three times (at the worst times) I couldnt care less about him being hungover, my point was he didnt play that well.Freeman didn't turn it over five times, so...Yeah, he struggled with turnovers all season. To me, if you can throw for 300 yards against a very good team, it's hard to blame a loss on an alleged hangover.
Except for when you also turn the ball over 5 times. Then it's pretty easy.
Post by: kslim on February 10, 2015, 08:45:38 AM
yes. im sure his hangover was gone by warm ups anywayAnd my point is that the 305 yards wouldn't have been possible if he wasn't functioning at a reasonably high level, with or without crucial mistakes.no, he didnt. he turned it over three times (at the worst times) I couldnt care less about him being hungover, my point was he didnt play that well.Freeman didn't turn it over five times, so...Yeah, he struggled with turnovers all season. To me, if you can throw for 300 yards against a very good team, it's hard to blame a loss on an alleged hangover.
Except for when you also turn the ball over 5 times. Then it's pretty easy.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 10, 2015, 08:50:48 AM
Post by: Yard Dog on February 10, 2015, 09:44:04 AM
So when do we hear of Marcus transferring?
Soon after the season ends would be my guess.
Should we start an official thread discussing where he will go be a stud when he gets to play again in two years? It would be lol if it was Miami.
Post by: CNS on February 10, 2015, 10:25:58 AM
Post by: IPA4Me on February 10, 2015, 04:19:52 PM
Someone acting in the name of gE, decided to aggressively real life PI Mike in an Aggieville bar. Guilt by association at this point. He really hates this place and a handful of members.Unfortunately, some KSU insiders are starting to break this thing wide open.
https://twitter.com/RealMikeT/status/564831562814865408
https://twitter.com/Turnksu/status/564835539073761280
RealMikeT blocked me. I don't have any clue as to why.
yeah he isn't real thrilled with anyone or anything GE.
Post by: Skipper44 on February 10, 2015, 04:25:13 PM
i would like to know what this meansSomeone acting in the name of gE, decided to aggressively real life PI Mike in an Aggieville bar. Guilt by association at this point. He really hates this place and a handful of members.Unfortunately, some KSU insiders are starting to break this thing wide open.
https://twitter.com/RealMikeT/status/564831562814865408
https://twitter.com/Turnksu/status/564835539073761280
RealMikeT blocked me. I don't have any clue as to why.
yeah he isn't real thrilled with anyone or anything GE.
Post by: PoetWarrior on February 10, 2015, 06:41:56 PM
Do you remember when some people thought that Thomas was the best recruit in the class?
Post by: IPA4Me on February 10, 2015, 06:53:24 PM
Which part? gE members being drunk dicks or Mike not liking it?i would like to know what this meansSomeone acting in the name of gE, decided to aggressively real life PI Mike in an Aggieville bar. Guilt by association at this point. He really hates this place and a handful of members.Unfortunately, some KSU insiders are starting to break this thing wide open.
https://twitter.com/RealMikeT/status/564831562814865408
https://twitter.com/Turnksu/status/564835539073761280
RealMikeT blocked me. I don't have any clue as to why.
yeah he isn't real thrilled with anyone or anything GE.
Post by: pissclams on February 10, 2015, 06:56:07 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on February 10, 2015, 07:06:23 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 10, 2015, 07:08:45 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on February 10, 2015, 07:38:19 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 10, 2015, 07:42:06 PM
Somebody put gE members on his PTK list at some point. He's pretty angry.What's that?
Post by: IPA4Me on February 10, 2015, 07:44:59 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 10, 2015, 07:45:43 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on February 10, 2015, 07:51:34 PM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on February 11, 2015, 09:44:52 AM
Somebody put gE members on his PTK list at some point. He's pretty angry.
He is an idiot and I dislike him greatly.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 11, 2015, 10:02:30 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 11, 2015, 11:03:19 PM
SMU is ranked and Larry could get him to the league if anyone could. :dunno:
They're going on probation, already, and still play in the wgaf conference in a high school gymnasium.
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on February 11, 2015, 11:07:16 PM
https://twitter.com/Jpullz0/status/565719873935142912:love:
Post by: wetwillie on February 11, 2015, 11:08:42 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 12, 2015, 04:05:38 AM
Looks like he may have to get his tony Mitchell on and soar with eagles.
LOL at Marcus Foster playing in the Sun Belt. He will be at a power six school or one of the big 3 mid majors
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 12, 2015, 09:07:13 AM
Someone acting in the name of gE, decided to aggressively real life PI Mike in an Aggieville bar.
not me. #intp
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don't tell that guy, but i still haven't sent in my foster payment for this year. now that he doesn't deserve it, i may never pay him.
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Post by: Yard Dog on February 13, 2015, 03:45:13 PM
What if they are done for the year and Currie is just keeping mum to salvage a few more bodies showing up to the fOOD?
Kiss the NIT goodbye. :frown:
Post by: That_Guy on February 13, 2015, 04:24:08 PM
What if they are done for the year and Currie is just keeping mum to salvage a few more bodies showing up to the fOOD?
Kiss the NIT goodbye. :frown:
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Post by: yoman on February 13, 2015, 05:33:45 PM
What if they are done for the year and Currie is just keeping mum to salvage a few more bodies showing up to the fOOD?
Kiss the NIT goodbye. :frown:
I really have no idea why so many of our fans think we should be in the NIT. There's like a .05% we finish at .500, if that.
Post by: michigancat on February 13, 2015, 05:48:04 PM
:Carl:What if they are done for the year and Currie is just keeping mum to salvage a few more bodies showing up to the fOOD?
Kiss the NIT goodbye. :frown:
I really have no idea why so many of our fans think we should be in the NIT. There's like a .05% we finish at .500, if that.
I don't think people want to face the fact that this could very easily be our worst season since 2003. It most likely will in terms of straight wins and losses, and it has a chance in most ranking systems.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 13, 2015, 06:37:54 PM
I don't think people want to face the fact that this could very easily be our worst season since 2003. It most likely will in terms of straight wins and losses, and it has a chance in most ranking systems.
I've been trying to educate this point. Unless we have like 3 upsets it will be.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 13, 2015, 06:41:06 PM
I have a hard time think a single wooly team would beat this team is a series.I don't think people want to face the fact that this could very easily be our worst season since 2003. It most likely will in terms of straight wins and losses, and it has a chance in most ranking systems.
I've been trying to educate this point. Unless we have like 3 upsets it will be.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 13, 2015, 06:44:27 PM
I have a hard time think a single wooly team would beat this team is a series.I don't think people want to face the fact that this could very easily be our worst season since 2003. It most likely will in terms of straight wins and losses, and it has a chance in most ranking systems.
I've been trying to educate this point. Unless we have like 3 upsets it will be.
Wooly's last two teams with Cartier would be very close in a series, if not win.
Post by: michigancat on February 13, 2015, 06:48:24 PM
I have a hard time think a single wooly team would beat this team is a series.I don't think people want to face the fact that this could very easily be our worst season since 2003. It most likely will in terms of straight wins and losses, and it has a chance in most ranking systems.
I've been trying to educate this point. Unless we have like 3 upsets it will be.
Wooly's last two teams with Cartier would be very close in a series, if not win.
and his third to last team had Massey, Martin, Ellis, Lance Harris, Dez, Marques Hayden, and Jarret Hart.
Ellis, Hart, Martin, and Dez all shot over 34% from three. :blank:
Post by: ChiComCat on February 13, 2015, 06:56:30 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 13, 2015, 07:02:48 PM
I have a hard time think a single wooly team would beat this team is a series.I don't think people want to face the fact that this could very easily be our worst season since 2003. It most likely will in terms of straight wins and losses, and it has a chance in most ranking systems.
I've been trying to educate this point. Unless we have like 3 upsets it will be.
Wooly's last two teams with Cartier would be very close in a series, if not win.
Are we assuming Marcus is playing? We have lost 20 ranking in Kenpom since Marcus suspension. Without the suspension I think their is a good chance we would have continued to trend up. But I think it goes back to this team just being a mess.
Wooly's last team is so hard to judge, played way too many close games. I think it is important not overate to close games. But it comes an issues with the human eye and IMO mathematically if that is what you do.
Post by: wetwillie on February 13, 2015, 07:03:53 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on February 13, 2015, 07:06:39 PM
Matt siebrandt vs Thomas Gipson. 1 on 1 for wooly vs oscar superiority
Would pay to watch. A rare lefty on lefty big challenge! O/U on charges taken is set at 5 in a standard by 1s game to 21.
Post by: meow meow on February 13, 2015, 07:24:36 PM
Matt siebrandt vs Thomas Gipson. 1 on 1 for wooly vs oscar superiority
Would pay to watch. A rare lefty on lefty big challenge! O/U on charges taken is set at 5 in a standard by 1s game to 21.
Wasn't Siebrandt actually a righty that just had a great left handed hook shot? He shot free throws right handed if I recall.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 13, 2015, 07:26:30 PM
Wooly's teams never won a road game and lost to E. Illinois and crap. It's bad, but it's not that bad. Wooly's best team ever didn't make the nit. This team has like 5 top 25 wins.
Post by: wetwillie on February 13, 2015, 07:30:37 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 13, 2015, 07:38:58 PM
Guys :facepalm:
Wooly's teams never won a road game and lost to E. Illinois and crap. It's bad, but it's not that bad. Wooly's best team ever didn't make the nit. This team has like 5 top 25 wins.
FSD has HBBIQ.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 13, 2015, 07:49:03 PM
Guys :facepalm:
Wooly's teams never won a road game and lost to E. Illinois and crap. It's bad, but it's not that bad. Wooly's best team ever didn't make the nit. This team has like 5 top 25 wins.
FSD has HBBIQ.
That's the sad thing. This team has decent wins Wooly teams didn't have, it's all the crappy losses that make this season so bad.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 13, 2015, 07:50:21 PM
They have been a head in every big 12 game in the 2nd half but two. KU and Tech where we closed it to one point than melted down. It is so weird.Guys :facepalm:
Wooly's teams never won a road game and lost to E. Illinois and crap. It's bad, but it's not that bad. Wooly's best team ever didn't make the nit. This team has like 5 top 25 wins.
FSD has HBBIQ.
That's the sad thing. This team has decent wins Wooly teams didn't have, it's all the crappy losses that make this season so bad.
Post by: wetwillie on February 13, 2015, 07:52:21 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 13, 2015, 07:56:21 PM
Unfortunately wins and losses and kenpom rankings aren't one of them. :frown:
Post by: michigancat on February 13, 2015, 07:57:09 PM
Wooly's last team won at KansasGuys :facepalm:
Wooly's teams never won a road game and lost to E. Illinois and crap. It's bad, but it's not that bad. Wooly's best team ever didn't make the nit. This team has like 5 top 25 wins.
FSD has HBBIQ.
That's the sad thing. This team has decent wins Wooly teams didn't have, it's all the crappy losses that make this season so bad.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 13, 2015, 07:59:23 PM
You can come up with all kinds of stats to make this team to compare favorably to Wooly's last few teams.
Unfortunately wins and losses and kenpom rankings aren't one of them. :frown:
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 13, 2015, 08:01:41 PM
So don't rough ridin' sit here and tell me this team is equivalent to a Wooly team. That's bullshit. I stormed the court when we beat UT 51-43 in 0-whatever. I know what hopeless crap looks like.
Post by: michigancat on February 13, 2015, 08:03:38 PM
I am a proud fan that went to school during the Wooly years. I suffered, immensely.Me too
So don't rough ridin' sit here and tell me this team is equivalent to a Wooly team. That's bullshit. I stormed the court when we beat UT 51-43 in 0-whatever. I know what hopeless crap looks like.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 13, 2015, 08:06:17 PM
I am a proud fan that went to school during the Wooly years. I suffered, immensely.Me too
So don't rough ridin' sit here and tell me this team is equivalent to a Wooly team. That's bullshit. I stormed the court when we beat UT 51-43 in 0-whatever. I know what hopeless crap looks like.
Internet High-5
Post by: michigancat on February 13, 2015, 08:07:01 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 13, 2015, 08:07:07 PM
I am a proud fan that went to school during the Wooly years. I suffered, immensely.
So don't rough ridin' sit here and tell me this team is equivalent to a Wooly team. That's bullshit. I stormed the court when we beat UT 51-43 in 0-whatever. I know what hopeless crap looks like.
It's got enough of franks leftovers to be slightly better than wooly. next year will be a mirror image of a wooly team.
Post by: michigancat on February 13, 2015, 08:08:29 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 13, 2015, 08:11:19 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 13, 2015, 08:14:51 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 13, 2015, 08:15:39 PM
Post by: meow meow on February 13, 2015, 08:17:14 PM
Matt siebrandt vs Thomas Gipson. 1 on 1 for wooly vs oscar superiority
Would pay to watch. A rare lefty on lefty big challenge! O/U on charges taken is set at 5 in a standard by 1s game to 21.
Wasn't Siebrandt actually a righty that just had a great left handed hook shot? He shot free throws right handed if I recall.
Fan?
Post by: wetwillie on February 13, 2015, 08:18:39 PM
Matt siebrandt vs Thomas Gipson. 1 on 1 for wooly vs oscar superiority
Would pay to watch. A rare lefty on lefty big challenge! O/U on charges taken is set at 5 in a standard by 1s game to 21.
Wasn't Siebrandt actually a righty that just had a great left handed hook shot? He shot free throws right handed if I recall.
Fan?
He's busy shopping a neck brace on oscar for me, hang on.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 13, 2015, 08:28:38 PM
Post by: meow meow on February 13, 2015, 08:29:51 PM
Matt siebrandt vs Thomas Gipson. 1 on 1 for wooly vs oscar superiority
Would pay to watch. A rare lefty on lefty big challenge! O/U on charges taken is set at 5 in a standard by 1s game to 21.
Wasn't Siebrandt actually a righty that just had a great left handed hook shot? He shot free throws right handed if I recall.
Fan?
He's busy shopping a neck brace on oscar for me, hang on.
No hurry, I'll just sit here and wait.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 13, 2015, 08:31:44 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 13, 2015, 08:33:49 PM
You guys remember when Tim Ellis nailed a 3 to tie OU and send it to OT? Man. I went absolutely bonkers. All 7k of my bram buds were partying for a minute
Tim had a dunk at CU late that helped us win one of our 4 con roadies
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 13, 2015, 08:40:49 PM
They have been a head in every big 12 game in the 2nd half but two. KU and Tech where we closed it to one point than melted down. It is so weird.Guys :facepalm:
Wooly's teams never won a road game and lost to E. Illinois and crap. It's bad, but it's not that bad. Wooly's best team ever didn't make the nit. This team has like 5 top 25 wins.
FSD has HBBIQ.
That's the sad thing. This team has decent wins Wooly teams didn't have, it's all the crappy losses that make this season so bad.
it is so weird
Post by: SdK on February 13, 2015, 09:44:13 PM
I am a proud fan that went to school during the Wooly years. I suffered, immensely.I was working at the Bram that day. I took off my polo and stormed too!
So don't rough ridin' sit here and tell me this team is equivalent to a Wooly team. That's bullshit. I stormed the court when we beat UT 51-43 in 0-whatever. I know what hopeless crap looks like.
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: Headinjun on February 14, 2015, 05:05:04 AM
We were awful. Nobody gave a f*ck either.
Post by: Cire on February 14, 2015, 08:10:34 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 14, 2015, 10:57:54 AM
I went to school in the Wooly years and never attended a single game. I even bought season tickets.
We were awful. Nobody gave a f*ck either.
I cared.
Post by: ChiComCat on February 14, 2015, 11:00:49 AM
Post by: ednksu on February 14, 2015, 11:09:17 PM
2005 drew lavender layup :angry:pfff come at me with Bookout goal tending to win. :lol:
Post by: ednksu on February 14, 2015, 11:10:18 PM
I'm just glad Marcus is in a supporting, caring, environment.
Post by: bballfan on February 15, 2015, 12:37:14 AM
Well, it looks like they added him back in for this game...
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Well, it looks like they added him back in for this game...
Back to normal. Whatever that means in the world of Bruceketball.
Post by: The Big Train on February 15, 2015, 12:49:16 AM
Post by: nicname on February 15, 2015, 02:00:15 AM
that literally took checking 1 box, pretty intensive work for that media person :rolleyes:
and a ridiculously petty move by kstate
Post by: dal9 on February 15, 2015, 09:16:19 AM
But then, that's DJamer in the lower right?
Post by: CNS on February 15, 2015, 10:04:47 AM
that literally took checking 1 box, pretty intensive work for that media person :rolleyes:
and a ridiculously petty move by kstate
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Post by: michigancat on February 15, 2015, 10:30:04 AM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 15, 2015, 10:47:25 AM
so weird that it was a three game suspension
I like how oscar pretended that he may not let Foster play last night (because this was totally his call all along), but obviously played him because he could see his job security quickly slipping from his fingertips, so the guy he's been throwing under the bus all year long could save his ass.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 15, 2015, 10:57:56 AM
so weird that it was a three game suspension
I like how oscar pretended that he may not let Foster play last night (because this was totally his call all along), but obviously played him because he could see his job security quickly slipping from his fingertips, so the guy he's been throwing under the bus all year long could save his ass.
It was pretty lol
Post by: wabash909 on February 15, 2015, 01:43:35 PM
Post by: sys on February 15, 2015, 02:37:30 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 15, 2015, 02:38:28 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 15, 2015, 02:38:43 PM
why would he transfer? i don't understand the people that think he's likely to transfer.
Yeah, I don't see it either. I don't think he's upset at oscar and staff.
Post by: sys on February 15, 2015, 02:41:27 PM
he deserves better.
no he doesn't.
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 15, 2015, 02:42:23 PM
he deserves better.
no he doesn't.
yes he does, but i don't think he'll transfer.
Post by: sys on February 15, 2015, 02:44:21 PM
yes he does, but i don't think he'll transfer.
kstate is a very good opportunity for foster. it fits him perfectly.
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 15, 2015, 02:49:36 PM
yes he does, but i don't think he'll transfer.
kstate is a very good opportunity for foster. it fits him perfectly.
you're not grasping my point. he doesn't deserve the way he has been treated this season. yes, he excels here as the one-man show on offense, but he could do better for himself elsewhere in just about every facet of his life related to college basketball.
Post by: michigancat on February 15, 2015, 02:53:53 PM
Post by: sys on February 15, 2015, 02:56:09 PM
you're not grasping my point. he doesn't deserve the way he has been treated this season. yes, he excels here as the one-man show on offense, but he could do better for himself elsewhere in just about every facet of his life related to college basketball.
i'm not missing it, i'm disagreeing with it. he's been treated appropriately.
Post by: sys on February 15, 2015, 02:57:27 PM
If he leaves, it will be something like Fred Peete leaving to play PG
there cannot possibly be another school at this level with more of a need for a pg. if he has any ability to play pg, his best chance to do so is at kstate.
Post by: michigancat on February 15, 2015, 03:00:02 PM
I'm saying he could go to a lower levelIf he leaves, it will be something like Fred Peete leaving to play PG
there cannot possibly be another school at this level with more of a need for a pg. if he has any ability to play pg, his best chance to do so is at kstate.
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 15, 2015, 03:01:51 PM
i'm not missing it, i'm disagreeing with it. he's been treated appropriately.
okay
Post by: kso_FAN on February 15, 2015, 03:18:14 PM
And yes, Marcus best place to showcase his game is at K-State. He's still the player oscar goes to most and has the most freedom on offense. That will only grow.
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 15, 2015, 03:20:09 PM
Treated? We do all agree that the 3 game suspension wasn't from oscar, right?
And yes, Marcus best place to showcase his game is at K-State. He's still the player oscar goes to most and had the most freedom on offense. That will only grow.
i don't think anyone is taking issue with the suspension, just the way that shithead Weber has talked about Marcus with the media this season.
Post by: wetwillie on February 15, 2015, 05:52:13 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 15, 2015, 06:27:05 PM
You can be of the opinion that he's overrated all you like but if he decided to transfer he would likely be the most sought after transfer this season, even more than Sulimon because of the amount of eligibility left.
Post by: Fldermaus on February 15, 2015, 11:00:11 PM
Post by: catzacker on February 16, 2015, 08:58:43 AM
I think he'll transfer because playing here, point guard or otherwise, is detrimental to him showcasing himself. I don't think his frustrations are born out of the benching and suspensions but out of this amazingly restrictive offense and that he's been told that he needs to do even more to fit the system.
You can be of the opinion that he's overrated all you like but if he decided to transfer he would likely be the most sought after transfer this season, even more than Sulimon because of the amount of eligibility left.
I do enjoy the "this is the best place for marcus" point. As if a million other places would not be better. And also as if it mattered.
Post by: Pete on February 16, 2015, 09:06:46 AM
that literally took checking 1 box, pretty intensive work for that media person :rolleyes:
and a ridiculously petty move by kstate
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 16, 2015, 09:35:56 AM
Can we start a list of schools: Coach lets you free lance 100% of the time
Post by: SdK on February 16, 2015, 09:38:21 AM
Marcus should go someplace where the coach lets the players do whatever they want to on offense.NBA?
Can we start a list of schools: Coach lets you free lance 100% of the time
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: Trim on February 16, 2015, 10:25:28 AM
Marcus should go someplace where the coach lets the players do whatever they want to on offense.
Can we start a list of schools: Coach lets you free lance 100% of the time
K-State without timeouts.
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 16, 2015, 12:23:27 PM
Marcus should go someplace where the coach lets the players do whatever they want to on offense.
Can we start a list of schools: Coach lets you free lance 100% of the time
K-State without timeouts.
:lol:
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Post by: MakeItRain on February 16, 2015, 01:54:42 PM
Marcus should go someplace where the coach lets the players do whatever they want to on offense.
Can we start a list of schools: Coach lets you free lance 100% of the time
Your inability to grasp onto even a sliver of nuance is a glaring sign of stupidity. You're going for clever but fell 10 feet short.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 16, 2015, 03:01:21 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on February 16, 2015, 03:05:20 PM
No more stupid than the concept of Marcus Foster somehow being in a "restrictive" offense at K-State when the eye test says that most of the time Marcus pretty much does whatever he wants, whenever he wants.
Agreed - the second he gets pulled that offense turns into a well oiled machine
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 16, 2015, 03:05:50 PM
No more stupid than the concept of Marcus Foster somehow being in a "restrictive" offense at K-State when the eye test says that most of the time Marcus pretty much does whatever he wants, whenever he wants.
With the offense we have, if Marcus was doing what he wanted whenever he wanted, then he'd be taking all but maybe 10-15 shots a game. He touches the ball on every possession but is unselfish to the detriment of the team. If there's a favorable matchup, then Gipson and Nino can score a little bit, but for the most part he is our only decent offensive option and he's absolutely being asked to defer to a bunch of much shittier basketball players.
Post by: michigancat on February 16, 2015, 03:29:05 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 16, 2015, 03:34:25 PM
Marcus is shooting less frequently when he's on the court than he was last year.Slightly. Also think he isn't get as many good looks. Think he has done a better job this year hitting harder shots. I do think part of Foster success last year had to do with howl well he fitted in to our schemes. This year he is making more plays with raw ability.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 16, 2015, 03:55:25 PM
In oscar's first season, Rodney shot the ball 139 more times than anyone else. Last year Marcus shot the ball 169 more times than anyone else, this year, even after missing 3 games, he still has way more shot attempts than anyone else. It would appear that Bruceketball is offense that needs the McGruder and Foster's of the world to shoot a lot, or when it breaks down (which is a lot) for them to create and/or shoot.
Maybe Foster isn't getting as many shots this year because of many things, like $hitty PG's, but another factor is, he isn't doing the things in games within the structure of the offense where his teammates would anticipate him being open and thus getting the ball to him.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 16, 2015, 03:57:43 PM
also, in case you were wondering, my dad thinks he shouldnt have turned around and show boated after he hit the 3 because the other team could have scored with the 3.4 seconds or whatever was left.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 16, 2015, 04:22:06 PM
i enjoy him hitting 3 pointers to win the game but i would like to see him be more aggressive and try to get something other than an NBA range 3.
also, in case you were wondering, my dad thinks he shouldnt have turned around and show boated after he hit the 3 because the other team could have scored with the 3.4 seconds or whatever was left.
He was just trolling the 'tucks there.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 16, 2015, 05:53:57 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on February 16, 2015, 06:54:09 PM
No more stupid than the concept of Marcus Foster somehow being in a "restrictive" offense at K-State when the eye test says that most of the time Marcus pretty much does whatever he wants, whenever he wants.
Oh you weren't attempting to be cute, you just don't know what you're talking about. I apologize.
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 16, 2015, 10:20:01 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 18, 2015, 09:04:18 PM
No more stupid than the concept of Marcus Foster somehow being in a "restrictive" offense at K-State when the eye test says that most of the time Marcus pretty much does whatever he wants, whenever he wants.
Playing limited minutes behind a walkon in literally the slowest offense in Kansas State history, livin the dream :excited:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 19, 2015, 05:20:33 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 19, 2015, 06:50:56 AM
Post by: michigancat on February 19, 2015, 08:44:39 AM
I feel like we're watching what would have happened between Wooly and Nick Williams if he had stayed for his sophomore season.Nick would have played with better talent.
Post by: Panjandrum on February 19, 2015, 09:16:52 AM
I feel like we're watching what would have happened between Wooly and Nick Williams if he had stayed for his sophomore season.
That's a very good way of looking at it.
I'm personally going to be a fan of his wherever he goes.
Post by: nicname on February 19, 2015, 10:13:57 AM
Post by: michigancat on February 19, 2015, 10:29:43 AM
I was crushed when Nick Williams left. I couldn't understand it.It brought me to message boards
Post by: Mr Bread on February 19, 2015, 10:32:07 AM
I was crushed when Nick Williams left. I couldn't understand it.It brought me to message boards
Was he good?
Post by: EMAWzified on February 19, 2015, 10:36:49 AM
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on February 19, 2015, 10:38:58 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 19, 2015, 10:40:27 AM
I'm to the point that I'm sure this will happen. Marcus is transferring and I don't think there is much we can do about it.
We can fire oscar.
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on February 19, 2015, 10:41:50 AM
I just don't see Currie doing this. There is no way he fires his guy after one bad year. I know it's been beat to death on this blog, but it is true.I'm to the point that I'm sure this will happen. Marcus is transferring and I don't think there is much we can do about it.
We can fire oscar.
Post by: Mr Bread on February 19, 2015, 10:42:31 AM
I'm to the point that I'm sure this will happen. Marcus is transferring and I don't think there is much we can do about it.
Well after that crap last night, I would be disappointed in him if he didn't. oscar practically dared him to transfer. Though maybe oscar knows Mr. Currie won't let him.
Post by: Panjandrum on February 19, 2015, 10:54:38 AM
I'm to the point that I'm sure this will happen. Marcus is transferring and I don't think there is much we can do about it.
Well after that crap last night, I would be disappointed in him if he didn't. oscar practically dared him to transfer. Though maybe oscar knows Mr. Currie won't let him.
With the stunt of pulling Marcus out of the promotional stuff, I'm not sure the AD is really going to go to bat for Marcus.
I'm just going to assume the whole AD has bought into oscar's narrative.
Post by: sys on February 19, 2015, 10:59:39 AM
maybe oscar knows Mr. Currie won't let him.
With the stunt of pulling Marcus out of the promotional stuff, I'm not sure the AD is really going to go to bat for Marcus.
i'm not sure romero would describe her ordeal as having had the a.d. go to bat for her.
Post by: Mr Bread on February 19, 2015, 11:20:29 AM
maybe oscar knows Mr. Currie won't let him.
With the stunt of pulling Marcus out of the promotional stuff, I'm not sure the AD is really going to go to bat for Marcus.
i'm not sure romero would describe her ordeal as having had the a.d. go to bat for her.
Yes, dax didn't even try that take.
Post by: Mr Bread on February 19, 2015, 11:23:39 AM
I'm to the point that I'm sure this will happen. Marcus is transferring and I don't think there is much we can do about it.
Well after that crap last night, I would be disappointed in him if he didn't. oscar practically dared him to transfer. Though maybe oscar knows Mr. Currie won't let him.
With the stunt of pulling Marcus out of the promotional stuff, I'm not sure the AD is really going to go to bat for Marcus.
I'm just going to assume the whole AD has bought into oscar's narrative.
I was saying Marcus would try to leave and Currie would block him because he is good at basketball like Leti and Angel. Not that Currie wouldn't let oscar oscar Marcus if oscar were so inclined. If oscar wants him gone he's gone. oscar doesn't want that. He wants Marcus to stay and do as oscar says to do.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 19, 2015, 11:27:36 AM
I was crushed when Nick Williams left. I couldn't understand it.It brought me to message boards
Was he good?
He was no Cortez Groves, that's for sure.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 19, 2015, 11:29:04 AM
I was crushed when Nick Williams left. I couldn't understand it.It brought me to message boards
Was he good?
he could dribble with both hands and was fairly athletic with a decent looking shot, so yeah for kstate at the time he looked pretty amazing.
Post by: Panjandrum on February 19, 2015, 11:42:28 AM
I'm to the point that I'm sure this will happen. Marcus is transferring and I don't think there is much we can do about it.
Well after that crap last night, I would be disappointed in him if he didn't. oscar practically dared him to transfer. Though maybe oscar knows Mr. Currie won't let him.
With the stunt of pulling Marcus out of the promotional stuff, I'm not sure the AD is really going to go to bat for Marcus.
I'm just going to assume the whole AD has bought into oscar's narrative.
I was saying Marcus would try to leave and Currie would block him because he is good at basketball like Leti and Angel. Not that Currie wouldn't let oscar oscar Marcus if oscar were so inclined. If oscar wants him gone he's gone. oscar doesn't want that. He wants Marcus to stay and do as oscar says to do.
Well, that's a very good point. I didn't really think about the Leti and Angel scenarios and the precedents those set.
So, thank you, Bread and sys.
Post by: deputy dawg on February 19, 2015, 11:46:14 AM
Remember last year when everyone was amazed at the find Weber had in the "overlooked" Marcus Foster? Could it be that other teams passed on him because of his personal issues, including negative influence in the locker room, and learned that by doing their homework?
Could be that oscar didn't do his homework, or knowingly took on a player that would have a team cancer effect?
Consider it tuckish if you like, but you'd have to be pretty narrow-minded to discount the possibility.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 19, 2015, 11:47:06 AM
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=nick-williams&i=1&nick-williams=2001-2002&p1=marcus-foster
Post by: pissclams on February 19, 2015, 11:56:08 AM
Has anyone considered the possibility that Foster is a team cancer? I know this thesis is GPC-worthy, but....
Remember last year when everyone was amazed at the find Weber had in the "overlooked" Marcus Foster? Could it be that other teams passed on him because of his personal issues, including negative influence in the locker room, and learned that by doing their homework?
Could be that oscar didn't do his homework, or knowingly took on a player that would have a team cancer effect?
Consider it tuckish if you like, but you'd have to be pretty narrow-minded to discount the possibility.
i'm sure a collection of downgrade mongloids has considered that possibilty
Post by: ednksu on February 19, 2015, 11:56:19 AM
Post by: EMAWzified on February 19, 2015, 11:59:51 AM
Has anyone considered the possibility that Foster is a team cancer? I know this thesis is GPC-worthy, but....
Remember last year when everyone was amazed at the find Weber had in the "overlooked" Marcus Foster? Could it be that other teams passed on him because of his personal issues, including negative influence in the locker room, and learned that by doing their homework?
Could be that oscar didn't do his homework, or knowingly took on a player that would have a team cancer effect?
Consider it tuckish if you like, but you'd have to be pretty narrow-minded to discount the possibility.
Doesn't this kind of thing get brought up on recruiting sites. You can read a lot of negative stuff about high school recruits. Also, his high school coach always praised him.
I just think it's Weber a. selfishly not wanting a star to take away all his luster, or b. marginalizing his best player to deflect blame for a crappy season.
Post by: CHONGS on February 19, 2015, 12:02:48 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on February 19, 2015, 12:07:47 PM
Has anyone considered the possibility that Foster is a team cancer? I know this thesis is GPC-worthy, but....
Remember last year when everyone was amazed at the find Weber had in the "overlooked" Marcus Foster? Could it be that other teams passed on him because of his personal issues, including negative influence in the locker room, and learned that by doing their homework?
Could be that oscar didn't do his homework, or knowingly took on a player that would have a team cancer effect?
Consider it tuckish if you like, but you'd have to be pretty narrow-minded to discount the possibility.
Other teams passed on him because he was hurt and then he was fat mostly I think. Everyone, save maybe some bluebloods, will want him this time around. There probably isn't a single high major coach out there right now that doesn't earnestly believe that they can reach and relate to players better than oscar Weber. No one will be deterred because oscar failed.
Post by: pissclams on February 19, 2015, 12:10:29 PM
Post by: CNS on February 19, 2015, 12:24:14 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 19, 2015, 01:57:43 PM
I didn't get to watch and only got to listen to the game for a bit last night, but Wyattvision and Stan didn't paint a good picture of Foster's effort. Maybe their just part of the narrative that the athletic department wants to get out there about Foster. :dunno:
Post by: michigancat on February 19, 2015, 01:59:08 PM
While I don't want oscar around anymore . . . I'll never quite get why this board appears to, with great regularity, always think it's the coach.Effort is a skill that can be taught.
I didn't get to watch and only got to listen to the game for a bit last night, but Wyattvision and Stan didn't paint a good picture of Foster's effort. Maybe their just part of the narrative that the athletic department wants to get out there about Foster. :dunno:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 19, 2015, 02:02:02 PM
While I don't want oscar around anymore . . . I'll never quite get why this board appears to, with great regularity, always think it's the coach.
I didn't get to watch and only got to listen to the game for a bit last night, but Wyattvision and Stan didn't paint a good picture of Foster's effort. Maybe their just part of the narrative that the athletic department wants to get out there about Foster. :dunno:
It's because the coach recruits his players and gets paid millions of dollars per year to manage talent, while the players are just trying to get an education and maybe get to play basketball for a living after college.
Post by: Mr Bread on February 19, 2015, 02:04:12 PM
Post by: nicname on February 19, 2015, 02:05:56 PM
hopefully he was on the phone with smu last night, larry brown would love to have marcus and he'd be closer to home
Would be great for both Marcus and Larry.
Post by: nicname on February 19, 2015, 02:08:02 PM
While I don't want oscar around anymore . . . I'll never quite get why this board appears to, with great regularity, always think it's the coach.
I didn't get to watch and only got to listen to the game for a bit last night, but Wyattvision and Stan didn't paint a good picture of Foster's effort. Maybe their just part of the narrative that the athletic department wants to get out there about Foster. :dunno:
My guess.
I wouldn't say that this board always thinks it's the coach. I think it depends on whether or not the board likes either the coach or player in question, and how much.
Post by: michigancat on February 19, 2015, 02:09:13 PM
Post by: Tobias on February 19, 2015, 02:13:37 PM
This board is a thing with unified opinions
there is The Board, and then there is The Board^(-1) [wackydax]
Post by: catzacker on February 19, 2015, 02:32:06 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on February 19, 2015, 02:34:04 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 19, 2015, 03:31:33 PM
oscar chooses to bench marcus for rholeder but lets jevon eff up all over the court and stay in. Foster is becoming a convenient scapegoat for oscar.
Jevons tries. It is bullshit oscar can't get the whole team to try constantly. Bullshit that the roster only has one player that can penetrate.
Post by: deputy dawg on February 19, 2015, 03:39:38 PM
Has anyone considered the possibility that Foster is a team cancer? I know this thesis is GPC-worthy, but....
Remember last year when everyone was amazed at the find Weber had in the "overlooked" Marcus Foster? Could it be that other teams passed on him because of his personal issues, including negative influence in the locker room, and learned that by doing their homework?
Could be that oscar didn't do his homework, or knowingly took on a player that would have a team cancer effect?
Consider it tuckish if you like, but you'd have to be pretty narrow-minded to discount the possibility.
i'm sure a collection of downgrade mongloids has considered that possibilty
'clams, the clinical term is Downs Syndrome, if you don't mind. And I'm mid-grade FWIW.
Post by: pissclams on February 19, 2015, 03:43:33 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on February 19, 2015, 04:07:21 PM
For me to say Foster is a team cancer, I would have to think the team would be better without him. I really don't know how anybody could make that argument the way this season has gone.
Post by: deputy dawg on February 19, 2015, 04:32:36 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 19, 2015, 04:44:29 PM
Mr. Bread, did oscar lose his teams at Illinois as badly as he's losing this one?
Is this the first time you've been on goEMAW?
Post by: #LIFE on February 19, 2015, 04:52:54 PM
Post by: CHONGS on February 19, 2015, 04:54:32 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 19, 2015, 05:18:14 PM
While I don't want oscar around anymore . . . I'll never quite get why this board appears to, with great regularity, always think it's the coach.
I didn't get to watch and only got to listen to the game for a bit last night, but Wyattvision and Stan didn't paint a good picture of Foster's effort. Maybe their just part of the narrative that the athletic department wants to get out there about Foster. :dunno:
I would say that their analysis is clouded a bit from what they are fed by oscar. Specific to last night, I didn't see an effort issue with anyone. Sure Rohedler played harder than everyone else, but duh he's a walkon. Last night the problem was skill and execution, not effort. Now generally I can't speak for everyone but I am not sure anyone completely absolves Marcus of responsibility. There is certainly shared responsibility and in a case like that oscar is going to, and should, take the flak. His style does not endear players to want to play hard for him. He has this soft strength and conditioning program, slow offense, squeaky voice, throws players under the bus and makes excuses. In addition to that oscar has a history of this happening, his last season at Illinois he speculated that the entire team quit on the season.
oscar didn't force Marcus to smoke weed and oscar didn't make Marcus a pouty mess at OSU. However, it is oscar has done all of the things I mentioned in the previous paragraph and none of that motivates anyone to want to do anything for you. As Rage Against the McKee said, oscar is the one being paid millions of dollars to fix this and as 'zacker pointed out he is obviously scapegoating Marcus so no one should feel bad for oscar, he's doing this to himself.
Post by: wazucat on February 19, 2015, 08:27:33 PM
Post by: Cire on February 19, 2015, 09:04:44 PM
Post by: nicname on February 19, 2015, 09:06:17 PM
The thing too is that if you actually respect your boss you feel bad if you let them down, so you are less apt to do so. So instead of just fear of punishment you have guilt as a motivator. Can be a big one. #pastriesforthought
Absolutely.
Post by: HELLHAMMER on February 19, 2015, 09:58:46 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 19, 2015, 10:03:47 PM
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on February 20, 2015, 09:52:27 AM
hopefully he was on the phone with smu last night, larry brown would love to have marcus and he'd be closer to home
Would be great for both Marcus and Larry.
Foster ain't goin' nowhere. We ended up in a convo with a guy at the HS gym TCU plays in that is part of the staff of the AAU team Foster played on in Texas and my bro flat out asked him if Foster was looking to get out.
The guy basically said that Marcus is a momma's boy and there ain't no way momma is having any part of that.
:buh-bye:
Post by: Fldermaus on February 20, 2015, 09:58:09 AM
Kitchen on 610 just basically called MF a FP,TC and that he is bringing the team down. Says we might be better with him gone. Did he watch the games when he was suspended? Good grief, I can't wrap my mind how these dumbasses think like this :facepalm:
I guess they think that the rest of the roster would look better and play with more confidence if they didn't have to deal with the specter of a guy who has above average skill at playing basketball?
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on February 20, 2015, 10:00:15 AM
Post by: CNS on February 20, 2015, 10:01:33 AM
hopefully he was on the phone with smu last night, larry brown would love to have marcus and he'd be closer to home
Would be great for both Marcus and Larry.
Foster ain't goin' nowhere. We ended up in a convo with a guy at the HS gym TCU plays in that is part of the staff of the AAU team Foster played on in Texas and my bro flat out asked him if Foster was looking to get out.
The guy basically said that Marcus is a momma's boy and there ain't no way momma is having any part of that.
:buh-bye:
Mommas like seeing their baby boys play and being treated correctly.
Post by: michigancat on February 20, 2015, 10:38:00 AM
Post by: Yard Dog on February 20, 2015, 10:41:51 AM
hopefully he was on the phone with smu last night, larry brown would love to have marcus and he'd be closer to home
Would be great for both Marcus and Larry.
Foster ain't goin' nowhere. We ended up in a convo with a guy at the HS gym TCU plays in that is part of the staff of the AAU team Foster played on in Texas and my bro flat out asked him if Foster was looking to get out.
The guy basically said that Marcus is a momma's boy and there ain't no way momma is having any part of that.
:buh-bye:
Mommas like seeing their baby boys play and being treated correctly.
Depends on the momma. Mommas sometimes like their boys to grow up and act like men so they would prefer their boy stuck a hard situation out. I often wonder how often that weighs into things like this. No way his mother is out of the loop on all the media covering Marcus' attitude problems.
Post by: CNS on February 20, 2015, 10:46:04 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 20, 2015, 10:49:27 AM
Post by: michigancat on February 20, 2015, 10:53:24 AM
There are lots of factors at play here. If Mom truly trusts oscar and his staff with her son and is even to a point even willing to be loyal to them because they signed him when no one else really wanted him, its extremely logical to assume that she will want him to stick it out at K-State. A few bad experiences here and a losing season won't change that, even if it makes many of us fans not like oscar. I'm sure the staff has probably been in pretty good contact with her (probably Brooks) while all of this has been going on because I'm sure the staff knows that a good Marcus staying around helps their careers. I think this staff is making lots of mistakes right now, but I don't think they are stupid and they will be as patient with Marcus as possible.
I agree w/ everything except I think they're kinda stupid
Post by: kso_FAN on February 20, 2015, 10:56:01 AM
There are lots of factors at play here. If Mom truly trusts oscar and his staff with her son and is even to a point even willing to be loyal to them because they signed him when no one else really wanted him, its extremely logical to assume that she will want him to stick it out at K-State. A few bad experiences here and a losing season won't change that, even if it makes many of us fans not like oscar. I'm sure the staff has probably been in pretty good contact with her (probably Brooks) while all of this has been going on because I'm sure the staff knows that a good Marcus staying around helps their careers. I think this staff is making lots of mistakes right now, but I don't think they are stupid and they will be as patient with Marcus as possible.
I agree w/ everything except I think they're kinda stupid
I meant that I don't think they are stupid behind the scenes with Marcus. oscar is saying dumb stuff, but I'm pretty sure they will do everything they can to keep him. They've got to know they aren't winning a lot next year without him and therefore will be well on the road to be fired.
Post by: sys on February 20, 2015, 11:21:01 AM
They've got to know they aren't winning a lot next year without him and therefore will be well on the road to be fired.
just to devil's advocate - if weber keeps foster, he owns him. if he cuts him (and maybe one other soph/fr), he's got a reasonable case to take to currie and say "either fire me now or i get two years, minimum, because the only way to fix this is to get worse (maybe not actually worse, because that'd be hard, but figuratively) next year."
Post by: kso_FAN on February 20, 2015, 11:22:07 AM
They've got to know they aren't winning a lot next year without him and therefore will be well on the road to be fired.
just to devil's advocate - if weber keeps foster, he owns him. if he cuts him (and maybe one other soph/fr), he's got a reasonable case to take to currie and say "either fire me now or i get two years, minimum, because the only way to fix this is to get worse (maybe not actually worse, because that'd be hard, but figuratively) next year."
Reasonable.
Post by: michigancat on February 20, 2015, 11:24:04 AM
They've got to know they aren't winning a lot next year without him and therefore will be well on the road to be fired.
just to devil's advocate - if weber keeps foster, he owns him. if he cuts him (and maybe one other soph/fr), he's got a reasonable case to take to currie and say "either fire me now or i get two years, minimum, because the only way to fix this is to get worse (maybe not actually worse, because that'd be hard, but figuratively) next year."
I'll add that I didn't think there was any way oscar would get fired but the way he's acting kinda makes me wonder.
(I'd still put the odds pretty low, but whatever)
Post by: CHONGS on February 20, 2015, 11:28:32 AM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 20, 2015, 11:30:45 AM
They've got to know they aren't winning a lot next year without him and therefore will be well on the road to be fired.
just to devil's advocate - if weber keeps foster, he owns him. if he cuts him (and maybe one other soph/fr), he's got a reasonable case to take to currie and say "either fire me now or i get two years, minimum, because the only way to fix this is to get worse (maybe not actually worse, because that'd be hard, but figuratively) next year."
I'll add that I didn't think there was any way oscar would get fired but the way he's acting kinda makes me wonder.
(I'd still put the odds pretty low, but whatever)
He's definitely acting desperate. His substitution patterns were beyond weird against TCU. Seemed like he spent the entire second half punishing Wes and foster, but then turned to them to try and save the game at the end. Then his remarks after the game were just totally nuts. Pretty sure I've never heard a coach question whether multiple members of his basketball team need to transfer in a post-game press conference.
Post by: catzacker on February 20, 2015, 11:31:40 AM
They've got to know they aren't winning a lot next year without him and therefore will be well on the road to be fired.
just to devil's advocate - if weber keeps foster, he owns him. if he cuts him (and maybe one other soph/fr), he's got a reasonable case to take to currie and say "either fire me now or i get two years, minimum, because the only way to fix this is to get worse (maybe not actually worse, because that'd be hard, but figuratively) next year."
I tend to agree with this. However I don't underestimate oscar's ability to play the victim. Keep Foster...it doesn't "work" next year and oscar can say "I gave him a chance..." and use Foster as a scapegoat again. If there is an available cross, oscar will climb up on it.
Post by: 0.42 on February 20, 2015, 11:59:48 AM
This board is a thing with unified opinions
there is The Board, and then there is The Board^(-1) [wackydax]
tobias, i appreciated this
Post by: CNS on February 20, 2015, 12:57:24 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 20, 2015, 01:57:20 PM
Post by: CHONGS on February 20, 2015, 02:03:23 PM
Post by: michigancat on February 20, 2015, 02:07:37 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 20, 2015, 02:14:42 PM
Lowery was just fired and this is chester's first job and Brooks was at something like Sam Houston State? They should all be tickled pink to have their jobs.
true. Assembling an all star cast of losers ensures they will stay content
Post by: sys on February 20, 2015, 02:28:38 PM
His mom must be the "people" Heidrick was referring to
you're not discussing your own mother, michigancat. the correct term for a black athlete's mother is "momma".
Post by: sys on February 20, 2015, 02:29:46 PM
Lowery was just fired and this is chester's first job and Brooks was at something like Sam Houston State? They should all be tickled pink to have their jobs.
if i were brooks, i'd be trying to leave. and i think he'd have opportunities.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 20, 2015, 02:35:42 PM
His mom must be the "people" Heidrick was referring to
you're not discussing your own mother, michigancat. the correct term for a black athlete's mother is "momma".
Thank you for pointing that out, it drives me rough ridin' crazy but I didn't want to derail the conversation.
Post by: 8manpick on February 20, 2015, 02:41:30 PM
Tupac's was "Mama" :ck:His mom must be the "people" Heidrick was referring to
you're not discussing your own mother, michigancat. the correct term for a black athlete's mother is "momma".
Thank you for pointing that out, it drives me rough ridin' crazy but I didn't want to derail the conversation.
Post by: michigancat on February 20, 2015, 02:48:25 PM
AgreedLowery was just fired and this is chester's first job and Brooks was at something like Sam Houston State? They should all be tickled pink to have their jobs.
if i were brooks, i'd be trying to leave. and i think he'd have opportunities.
Post by: SdK on February 20, 2015, 02:50:33 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: SdK on February 20, 2015, 02:50:52 PM
Dear Mama was such a good jam.Tupac's was "Mama" :ck:His mom must be the "people" Heidrick was referring to
you're not discussing your own mother, michigancat. the correct term for a black athlete's mother is "momma".
Thank you for pointing that out, it drives me rough ridin' crazy but I didn't want to derail the conversation.
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: SdK on February 20, 2015, 02:51:20 PM
Speaking of which, I used to style my hair with "Let's Jam"Dear Mama was such a good jam.Tupac's was "Mama" :ck:His mom must be the "people" Heidrick was referring to
you're not discussing your own mother, michigancat. the correct term for a black athlete's mother is "momma".
Thank you for pointing that out, it drives me rough ridin' crazy but I didn't want to derail the conversation.
#TheWesIsTheFuture
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: nicname on February 28, 2015, 04:36:11 PM
Post by: wetwillie on February 28, 2015, 04:41:59 PM
It's infuriating how little he plays.
This is Nigel's team now bruh
Post by: dal9 on February 28, 2015, 04:43:49 PM
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 28, 2015, 05:03:35 PM
he's made two shots, has two turnovers, and doesn't have a rebound, assist, steal, or block so far. and he's not here for his lockdown defense exactly. sometimes it's just not yourdaymonth.
FTFY
Post by: dean_ksu on February 28, 2015, 05:05:18 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 28, 2015, 05:09:43 PM
It's infuriating how little he plays.
After he made his shot, he played like crap. Sitting him was the right thing and I truly don't think we win if he plays down the stretch. I feel bad for him, I hope he and Weber get it figured out, but come man. He hasn't been good at all in February, 4-26 from 3 just being one indicator.
Post by: nicname on February 28, 2015, 05:13:43 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 28, 2015, 05:15:44 PM
I just figure if a player is good, which I think Foster is, that eventually they will produce. I could be wrong. Maybe he's just not a good player now.
I think his mind is really messed up. His shooting is just really bad right now and when he doesn't play with energy he hurts this team. I thought the make would energize him, but then the next several trips he was calling for the ball and a heat check and I thought when he didn't get it he let it carry over to other things. A final pathetic closeout and 3 point make over his late defense was it for him.
Post by: nicname on February 28, 2015, 05:20:44 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 28, 2015, 05:23:37 PM
Post by: HELLHAMMER on February 28, 2015, 05:25:08 PM
Post by: sys on February 28, 2015, 05:25:43 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on February 28, 2015, 05:27:19 PM
he's just taking bad shots.
It's a lot of bad shots at this point. He's now 25% in Big 12 games. 4-26 in February is really bad.
Post by: nicname on February 28, 2015, 05:27:34 PM
Post by: sys on February 28, 2015, 05:28:21 PM
he's just taking bad shots.
It's a lot of bad shots at this point. He's now 25% in Big 12 games. 4-26 in February is really bad.
yes. lots of them.
Post by: kso_FAN on February 28, 2015, 05:29:34 PM
Don't say he won't be back. Don't scare me _Fan.
I want him back. I hope I'm wrong. I know nothing either, I'm just guessing.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 28, 2015, 05:46:02 PM
he's just taking bad shots.
It's a lot of bad shots at this point. He's now 25% in Big 12 games. 4-26 in February is really bad.
yes. lots of them.
The layup was the only good shot he took today, completely forcing things outside of the framework of the offense. It's definitely a chicken/egg situation; he's forcing shots because he hasn't been getting as many minutes and he's trying to make plays, he isn't getting minutes because the ball stops in his hands and he kills offensive rhythm.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 28, 2015, 05:47:51 PM
Post by: SdK on February 28, 2015, 06:23:02 PM
When need to send him backdoor. Everyone is over playing him to prevent against the 3We just need to be more free on offense in general
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: MakeItRain on February 28, 2015, 06:29:00 PM
When need to send him backdoor. Everyone is over playing him to prevent against the 3
He would be fine if he ran the offense and let the ball move from side to side.
Post by: Bill Clarahan on February 28, 2015, 06:32:08 PM
When need to send him backdoor. Everyone is over playing him to prevent against the 3
oscar knows nothing of the back door, he's strictly a missionary man, by that I mean he can't change. Marcus's problem is
oscar not being able to bend him to fit in a more productive way.
Marcus would be better off with a coach that doesn't have his head up his ass.
Post by: Trogdor on February 28, 2015, 06:39:16 PM
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 28, 2015, 06:41:27 PM
He's gone.
Post by: MakeItRain on February 28, 2015, 06:55:49 PM
Post by: sunny_cat on February 28, 2015, 06:56:12 PM
I've now gone the other way and I don't think he will transfer.
confidence rising
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 28, 2015, 06:57:24 PM
Post by: Trogdor on February 28, 2015, 07:23:56 PM
I've now gone the other way and I don't think he will transfer.
You heard it here folks!
Post by: CyberToothCat on February 28, 2015, 07:24:39 PM
The win was fun, but his performance sure was a dud.
Post by: wetwillie on February 28, 2015, 07:31:18 PM
Unless we upset Texas and manage to squeak into the NIT, I think today was Foster's last game in Bramlage.
The win was fun, but his performance sure was a dud.
Texas will be a shell of themselves when we roll into town after Baylor hands them another loss. We are going to beat that ass.
Post by: ljmhawk2 on February 28, 2015, 08:43:50 PM
Post by: CyberToothCat on February 28, 2015, 09:17:30 PM
Unless we upset Texas and manage to squeak into the NIT, I think today was Foster's last game in Bramlage.
The win was fun, but his performance sure was a dud.
Texas will be a shell of themselves when we roll into town after Baylor hands them another loss. We are going to beat that ass.
Well, good. I hope you're right. I don't care how it happens, I'll take a win any way I can get it.
I still think Foster has played his last, or nearly his last, game in Bram.
Q: did Foster go all the way around the arena to high five fans after the game with the rest of the team?
A: no, he went past the student section, then cut out and jogged back to the locker room while the team went on without him.
Post by: dal9 on March 01, 2015, 12:21:14 AM
You didnt see the move he put on Self at the scorer's table?
oscar knows nothing of the back door, he's strictly a missionary man, by that I mean he can't change. Marcus's problem is
oscar not being able to bend him to fit in a more productive way.
Post by: michigancat on March 01, 2015, 07:58:06 AM
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 01, 2015, 08:08:58 AM
Jesus Christ we are not a better team with Foster on the bench.
We were yesterday.
Post by: chum1 on March 01, 2015, 08:09:20 AM
Post by: michigancat on March 01, 2015, 08:09:26 AM
Post by: pissclams on March 01, 2015, 08:09:57 AM
Post by: catzacker on March 01, 2015, 08:48:33 AM
Jesus Christ we are not a better team with Foster on the bench.
whatever.
sincerely,
OU
Post by: chum1 on March 01, 2015, 09:13:16 AM
SUB OUT: Foster, Marcus 15:53 2-10 -8
SUB IN : Foster, Marcus 12:06 12-10 +10
SUB OUT: Foster, Marcus 05:58 21-29 -10
SUB IN : Foster, Marcus 12:52 45-53 0
SUB OUT: Foster, Marcus 10:36 48-60 -4
0:00 70-69 +13
Post by: chum1 on March 01, 2015, 09:15:12 AM
Post by: The Whale on March 01, 2015, 09:17:26 AM
But now we get to look forward to tucks selling The Flush as the next Foster and rooting for Foster to leave.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 01, 2015, 09:21:54 AM
K? Thx
Post by: michigancat on March 01, 2015, 10:27:35 AM
This isn't even close. When Foster was in, we were outscored by 22.
SUB OUT: Foster, Marcus 15:53 2-10 -8
SUB IN : Foster, Marcus 12:06 12-10 +10
SUB OUT: Foster, Marcus 05:58 21-29 -10
SUB IN : Foster, Marcus 12:52 45-53 0
SUB OUT: Foster, Marcus 10:36 48-60 -4
0:00 70-69 +13
The team definitely had better stretches of play with him off the court, but they're still a better team with him on the court.
Post by: yoman on March 01, 2015, 10:31:14 AM
Prior to the last two games, defenses keyed on Foster and Gipson without the Cats having any other threats. If Nigel and Edwards and to a lesser extent Westicles had been playing the way they have the last few games, Foster wouldn't have had to force as many things leading to this point.
But now we get to look forward to tucks selling The Flush as the next Foster and rooting for Foster to leave.
Which has always been strange to me. "Hey we have this guy who could be awesome and a guy who has been awesome but has slumped lately." "eff the second guy, get him out." "But we can have both with absolutely no repercussions." "Nope, eff him, he needs to leave."
Post by: chum1 on March 01, 2015, 10:33:39 AM
This isn't even close. When Foster was in, we were outscored by 22.
SUB OUT: Foster, Marcus 15:53 2-10 -8
SUB IN : Foster, Marcus 12:06 12-10 +10
SUB OUT: Foster, Marcus 05:58 21-29 -10
SUB IN : Foster, Marcus 12:52 45-53 0
SUB OUT: Foster, Marcus 10:36 48-60 -4
0:00 70-69 +13
The team definitely had better stretches of play with him off the court, but they're still a better team with him on the court.
Should he have played more yesterday?
Post by: kso_FAN on March 01, 2015, 10:37:07 AM
I still contend Nigel is better off the ball, though he can be a combo.
They want Jevon to be a "true" point (at least this season) and it sounds like Stokes is being brought in either to replace him or give him legit competition at the PG spot.
Either way, it will be an interesting offseason.
Post by: chum1 on March 01, 2015, 10:45:17 AM
Post by: Pete on March 01, 2015, 10:51:16 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 01, 2015, 10:54:16 AM
Post by: catzacker on March 01, 2015, 10:54:57 AM
Post by: chum1 on March 01, 2015, 10:56:36 AM
man, I remember when Beasley only scored 5 points against Xavier. Frank prolly should have sat his ass the rest of the season. I mean, when you look at that one game, it should give you enough data to extrapolate.
No one is suggesting that.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 01, 2015, 10:58:23 AM
Marcus' suspension and subsequent reduction in playing time has put these guys in a position to be more assertive and it's working for them. There has been a couple of changes in roles that has seemed to help Justin and Nigel but hurt Marcus. I'd like all of these guys to stay and I'd like to see what the offense looks like with multiple guards willing to be assertive, maybe the coaches would be confident enough to pick up the pace.
Post by: catzacker on March 01, 2015, 11:00:27 AM
man, I remember when Beasley only scored 5 points against Xavier. Frank prolly should have sat his ass the rest of the season. I mean, when you look at that one game, it should give you enough data to extrapolate.
No one is suggesting that.
We're not better off with Foster if he's going to play like crap.
seems like it. i mean, Jevon can play like crap, but play him. Wes has sucked something rough ridin' awful for like the entire damn season, he's in. Edwards hasn't even looked like he knew he was playing basketball for the entire rough ridin' season, he's in. nigel, according to oscar, doesn't even know we have scouting reports, he's in.
but for god's rough ridin' sake, don't play marcus. don't.
Post by: Pete on March 01, 2015, 11:04:27 AM
You should have gotten a shirt that said "I am not the weak link".
Oh, I didn't play. I just pestered the coach constantly.
Post by: chum1 on March 01, 2015, 11:08:00 AM
man, I remember when Beasley only scored 5 points against Xavier. Frank prolly should have sat his ass the rest of the season. I mean, when you look at that one game, it should give you enough data to extrapolate.
No one is suggesting that.We're not better off with Foster if he's going to play like crap.
seems like it. i mean, Jevon can play like crap, but play him. Wes has sucked something rough ridin' awful for like the entire damn season, he's in. Edwards hasn't even looked like he knew he was playing basketball for the entire rough ridin' season, he's in. nigel, according to oscar, doesn't even know we have scouting reports, he's in.
but for god's rough ridin' sake, don't play marcus. don't.
I wouldn't make a blanket statement that the team is always better when Foster is in. It was at one point, but maybe he decided to transfer and quit trying or something. Things change.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 01, 2015, 11:08:24 AM
man, I remember when Beasley only scored 5 points against Xavier. Frank prolly should have sat his ass the rest of the season. I mean, when you look at that one game, it should give you enough data to extrapolate.
No one is suggesting that.We're not better off with Foster if he's going to play like crap.
seems like it. i mean, Jevon can play like crap, but play him. Wes has sucked something rough ridin' awful for like the entire damn season, he's in. Edwards hasn't even looked like he knew he was playing basketball for the entire rough ridin' season, he's in. nigel, according to oscar, doesn't even know we have scouting reports, he's in.
but for god's rough ridin' sake, don't play marcus. don't.
Zacker, what are you arguing? It seems pretty obvious that chum isn't advocating for a permanent benching of Marcus but in situations like yesterday when it was pretty obvious he didn't have it and the offense worked better when he was out, there's nothing controversial about that.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 01, 2015, 11:49:31 AM
It seemed this past week that the guys finally decided they could win without Marcus playing well. Of course, this wasn't some conscious thing, but clearly from Nino's comment of "We live and die by Marcus, he always takes the big shots for us" there was a belief that they couldn't win without him playing well. It took other guys like Nigel stepping up and finally finishing games to do it (playing at home helped), but its nice to see that barrier broken. If things can get figured out with Foster and he's back next year with most of the other players, then this team "could" be better off for it.
Post by: Cire on March 01, 2015, 11:56:16 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 01, 2015, 12:43:22 PM
Rodney and jake used to constantly be running around screens to get looks. Marcus is either in terrible shape and can't do that or isn't willing to
There's some truth to all of that but our offense doesn't set off ball screens to get shots for guards.
Post by: michigancat on March 01, 2015, 01:57:41 PM
YesThis isn't even close. When Foster was in, we were outscored by 22.
SUB OUT: Foster, Marcus 15:53 2-10 -8
SUB IN : Foster, Marcus 12:06 12-10 +10
SUB OUT: Foster, Marcus 05:58 21-29 -10
SUB IN : Foster, Marcus 12:52 45-53 0
SUB OUT: Foster, Marcus 10:36 48-60 -4
0:00 70-69 +13
The team definitely had better stretches of play with him off the court, but they're still a better team with him on the court.
Should he have played more yesterday?
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 01, 2015, 02:11:49 PM
Edwards probably had is best half as a wildcat yesterday. I think that has a little to do with Foster not playing in the second half.
Post by: sys on March 01, 2015, 02:22:49 PM
Rodney and jake used to constantly be running around screens to get looks. Marcus is either in terrible shape and can't do that or isn't willing to
mcgruder and pullen could catch, change momentum and shoot. foster is not great at that. he's better with his momentum going towards the basket or stationary. he has an amazingly fast release and good elevation, so he also doesn't really need to be running the baseline past a double pick to get open.
i'm sure there are lots of things that could be done to get foster more good shots and lots he could do to help that. but i don't think having him in constant motion looking for a catch and shoot off a ton of picks is the right option for him.
and yeah, he also doesn't have great endurance. another reason the above wouldn't help.
Post by: Panjandrum on March 01, 2015, 02:28:40 PM
and yeah, he also doesn't have great endurance. another reason the above wouldn't help.
Does anyone on this team have great endurance? I'm not sure how to evaluate strength and conditioning outside of subjective visual judgements, but it feels like the team, as a whole, lacks conditioning.
Post by: Missouriscribe on March 01, 2015, 03:53:02 PM
and yeah, he also doesn't have great endurance. another reason the above wouldn't help.
Does anyone on this team have great endurance? I'm not sure how to evaluate strength and conditioning outside of subjective visual judgements, but it feels like the team, as a whole, lacks conditioning.
Right you are, right you are
Post by: Asteriskhead on March 01, 2015, 04:07:31 PM
and yeah, he also doesn't have great endurance. another reason the above wouldn't help.
Does anyone on this team have great endurance? I'm not sure how to evaluate strength and conditioning outside of subjective visual judgements, but it feels like the team, as a whole, lacks conditioning.
they're ridiculously soft.
Post by: chum1 on March 01, 2015, 05:44:57 PM
YesThis isn't even close. When Foster was in, we were outscored by 22.
SUB OUT: Foster, Marcus 15:53 2-10 -8
SUB IN : Foster, Marcus 12:06 12-10 +10
SUB OUT: Foster, Marcus 05:58 21-29 -10
SUB IN : Foster, Marcus 12:52 45-53 0
SUB OUT: Foster, Marcus 10:36 48-60 -4
0:00 70-69 +13
The team definitely had better stretches of play with him off the court, but they're still a better team with him on the court.
Should he have played more yesterday?
I may have, too, if there were like 1000 games in a season. Even then, though, things happen. Maybe a player gets injured for the first time in his career, for example, and he looks like he can run and jump, yet has stat line is full of zeros. I wouldn't leave him in the lineup just because his season or career stats are the best.
It's interesting, I think, that not only did the team have better stretches when Foster was out, and not only was the overall scoring differential 45 (!) points, but all negative scoring differentials came only when Foster was in. Coincidence or red flag?
Post by: michigancat on March 01, 2015, 05:50:29 PM
YesThis isn't even close. When Foster was in, we were outscored by 22.
SUB OUT: Foster, Marcus 15:53 2-10 -8
SUB IN : Foster, Marcus 12:06 12-10 +10
SUB OUT: Foster, Marcus 05:58 21-29 -10
SUB IN : Foster, Marcus 12:52 45-53 0
SUB OUT: Foster, Marcus 10:36 48-60 -4
0:00 70-69 +13
The team definitely had better stretches of play with him off the court, but they're still a better team with him on the court.
Should he have played more yesterday?
I may have, too, if there were like 1000 games in a season. Even then, though, things happen. Maybe a player gets injured for the first time in his career, for example, and he looks like he can run and jump, yet has stat line is full of zeros. I wouldn't leave him in the lineup just because his season or career stats are the best.
It's interesting, I think, that not only did the team have better stretches when Foster was out, and not only was the overall scoring differential 45 (!) points, but all negative scoring differentials came only when Foster was in. Coincidence or red flag?
It's not particularly interesting or meaningful.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 01, 2015, 06:01:03 PM
Foster was dogshit against ku and isu. It's good that Edwards and Nigel have stepped up.
Post by: chum1 on March 01, 2015, 06:02:26 PM
Post by: chum1 on March 01, 2015, 06:05:28 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 01, 2015, 06:15:51 PM
If it's just a coincidence, it's a pretty interesting one.Is it?
Post by: wetwillie on March 01, 2015, 06:33:45 PM
Raises questions like: is oscar sabotaging Foster so he can get Chum1 on his side!?!?
yes, yes I do believe he is.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 01, 2015, 06:37:51 PM
and yeah, he also doesn't have great endurance. another reason the above wouldn't help.
Does anyone on this team have great endurance? I'm not sure how to evaluate strength and conditioning outside of subjective visual judgements, but it feels like the team, as a whole, lacks conditioning.
they're ridiculously soft.
Yeah, Nigel puking and cramping during a game in February is a sign that it's time for a new strength coach.
Post by: catzacker on March 01, 2015, 06:42:54 PM
If it's just a coincidence, it's a pretty interesting one.Is it?
I think one data point is always meaningful enough to make decisions/projections. Take oscar's head coaching record for example.
Post by: chum1 on March 01, 2015, 06:52:04 PM
Yep.If it's just a coincidence, it's a pretty interesting one.Is it?
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 01, 2015, 06:52:28 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 01, 2015, 06:57:53 PM
and yeah, he also doesn't have great endurance. another reason the above wouldn't help.
Does anyone on this team have great endurance? I'm not sure how to evaluate strength and conditioning outside of subjective visual judgements, but it feels like the team, as a whole, lacks conditioning.
they're ridiculously soft.
Yeah, Nigel puking and cramping during a game in February is a sign that it's time for a new strength coach.
Injury prevention is the issue not conditioning.
Post by: chum1 on March 01, 2015, 07:17:53 PM
This does seem like what chum1 was mocking posters on this board for doing just recently.
Yeah, similar. I'm still advocating against overzealous predicting and not doing any predicting myself.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 01, 2015, 11:44:03 PM
and yeah, he also doesn't have great endurance. another reason the above wouldn't help.
Does anyone on this team have great endurance? I'm not sure how to evaluate strength and conditioning outside of subjective visual judgements, but it feels like the team, as a whole, lacks conditioning.
they're ridiculously soft.
Yeah, Nigel puking and cramping during a game in February is a sign that it's time for a new strength coach.
Injury prevention is the issue not conditioning.
What? You seem like you watch a lot of basketball but you say the most inane crap. That sentence you typed is rough ridin' absurd.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 01, 2015, 11:54:37 PM
We have had so many injuries during the Weber tenure. Half the team after the both post season have had post season surgeries. Players always seem banged up.and yeah, he also doesn't have great endurance. another reason the above wouldn't help.
Does anyone on this team have great endurance? I'm not sure how to evaluate strength and conditioning outside of subjective visual judgements, but it feels like the team, as a whole, lacks conditioning.
they're ridiculously soft.
Yeah, Nigel puking and cramping during a game in February is a sign that it's time for a new strength coach.
Injury prevention is the issue not conditioning.
What? You seem like you watch a lot of basketball but you say the most inane crap. That sentence you typed is rough ridin' absurd.
Quote
Weber said four players are working to get healthy, and three are having surgery. Both Martavious Irving, a senior, and Nino Williams are having minor knee surgeries, while Rodriguez is having work done to fix torn ligaments in his left wrist. Will Spradling is still recovering from his chest injury.
Last year we had DJamer, Nino and Gip. This year Wes and Malek were hurt coming into the season and Hurt missed extended time.
Post by: star seed 7 on March 01, 2015, 11:59:19 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 02, 2015, 12:24:45 AM
Does conditioning and whatever fall under the practice time rules?
If coaches are present, yes. But it's pretty standard for players to have things to work on without the staff present, strength and conditioning staff, trainers, managers, and the players themselves can all supervise conditioning.
Mixed Nutz, two things.
1. Injuries occur more often to players and teams not well conditioned, injury management is best handled by a fit squad. It's basketball, conditioning is absolutely the issue.
2. You seem to infer that we should be training to prevent injuries; without getting into a philosophical conversation, there is only so much you can do to prevent injuries in a contact sport. Injuries in contact sports is often a matter of luck I have no idea how you train for injury prevention but that seems like a waste of time. Just get your team as fit as possible to play 40 minutes twice a week for 5 months.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 02, 2015, 01:40:28 AM
Post by: Trim on March 02, 2015, 01:49:35 AM
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Post by: Cire on March 02, 2015, 06:47:19 AM
Post by: yoman on March 02, 2015, 09:05:17 AM
and yeah, he also doesn't have great endurance. another reason the above wouldn't help.
Does anyone on this team have great endurance? I'm not sure how to evaluate strength and conditioning outside of subjective visual judgements, but it feels like the team, as a whole, lacks conditioning.
they're ridiculously soft.
Yeah, Nigel puking and cramping during a game in February is a sign that it's time for a new strength coach.
Injury prevention is the issue not conditioning.
I know MIR called you out previously, but I'm doing it again to inform you just how rough ridin' stupid this talking point is. Along with improving strength and endurance to improve performance, injury prevention is one one of the main purposes of a S&C program.
Post by: Trim on March 02, 2015, 09:52:10 AM
Thanks for sending me into a night court youtube wormhole
I avoided that wormhole but I was reminded via wikipedia that Harry's fill-in judge would become the judge central to the combofanning board's MTD craziness. Wow!
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 02, 2015, 12:05:19 PM
Injury prevention is the main concern for the S&C coach during season and IMO it has been poor. There seems to be a pattern with shoulder injuries. I think that is a huge problem. oscar seems to constantly talk about players not being able to practice because of injury. If you can't practice you are going to have issues with staying in shape. Staying in shape shouldn't be a problem in season, you should just be maintaining.and yeah, he also doesn't have great endurance. another reason the above wouldn't help.
Does anyone on this team have great endurance? I'm not sure how to evaluate strength and conditioning outside of subjective visual judgements, but it feels like the team, as a whole, lacks conditioning.
they're ridiculously soft.
Yeah, Nigel puking and cramping during a game in February is a sign that it's time for a new strength coach.
Injury prevention is the issue not conditioning.
I know MIR called you out previously, but I'm doing it again to inform you just how rough ridin' stupid this talking point is. Along with improving strength and endurance to improve performance, injury prevention is one one of the main purposes of a S&C program.
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 02, 2015, 12:21:37 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on March 02, 2015, 12:21:46 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 02, 2015, 12:34:54 PM
I think what everyone is saying, to a certain degree, is that Price sucks and needs to go, right?Yes.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 03, 2015, 11:08:11 AM
Post by: pvegs on March 04, 2015, 11:13:34 PM
Tucks already are in the mindset that Foster is gone. I wonder if they are going to meltdown if he stays put.
Fitz says on the gpc podcast that there's no way Foster will come back and that him rooting for guys on the bench is an act and he's basically a terrible person.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 04, 2015, 11:59:52 PM
Tucks already are in the mindset that Foster is gone. I wonder if they are going to meltdown if he stays put.
Fitz says on the gpc podcast that there's no way Foster will come back and that him rooting for guys on the bench is an act and he's basically a terrible person.
Hope that is just super tuck coming through. I listen to the same podcast and read the first 15 pages of this blog. :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:
Post by: nicname on March 05, 2015, 12:45:09 AM
Tucks already are in the mindset that Foster is gone. I wonder if they are going to meltdown if he stays put.
Fitz says on the gpc podcast that there's no way Foster will come back and that him rooting for guys on the bench is an act and he's basically a terrible person.
That's disappointing.
Post by: Dub on March 05, 2015, 12:47:13 AM
Tucks already are in the mindset that Foster is gone. I wonder if they are going to meltdown if he stays put.
Fitz says on the gpc podcast that there's no way Foster will come back and that him rooting for guys on the bench is an act and he's basically a terrible person.
Hope that is just super tuck coming through. I listen to the same podcast and read the first 15 pages of this blog. :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:
Why would a disgruntled player act like he's rooting for players? That makes no sense.
Post by: bones129 on March 05, 2015, 12:51:34 AM
Tucks already are in the mindset that Foster is gone. I wonder if they are going to meltdown if he stays put.
Fitz says on the gpc podcast that there's no way Foster will come back and that him rooting for guys on the bench is an act and he's basically a terrible person.
Fitz wishes he was Marcus.
Post by: slobber on March 05, 2015, 05:51:36 AM
#tucklife
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: catzacker on March 05, 2015, 06:52:17 AM
Post by: Pete on March 05, 2015, 07:06:34 AM
well, we're a better team without Marcus because at the end of the ISU game he wasn't in there and we won. so marcus being gone isn't that big of a deal because of that one time.
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 05, 2015, 08:41:12 AM
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 05, 2015, 09:02:59 AM
well, we're a better team without Marcus because at the end of the ISU game he wasn't in there and we won. so marcus being gone isn't that big of a deal because of that one time.
We're better when Foster is playing well. period. at the same time, he was terrible in the ISU game, and in that particular game, the team was better with him on the bench. Benching him was the right call.
To me, this doesn't seem very controversial. good/great players have off nights. to beat UT and win a few games in the tourney, we'll need him to play well and play a lot of minutes.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 05, 2015, 09:05:18 AM
well, we're a better team without Marcus because at the end of the ISU game he wasn't in there and we won. so marcus being gone isn't that big of a deal because of that one time.
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that's great
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2015, 09:49:05 AM
well, we're a better team without Marcus because at the end of the ISU game he wasn't in there and we won. so marcus being gone isn't that big of a deal because of that one time.
We're better when Foster is playing well. period. at the same time, he was terrible in the ISU game, and in that particular game, the team was better with him on the bench. Benching him was the right call.
To me, this doesn't seem very controversial. good/great players have off nights. to beat UT and win a few games in the tourney, we'll need him to play well and play a lot of minutes.
The fact that the team was better with him on the bench does not mean benching him was the right call.
Sitting your best player because you think he is "off" is a lot like trying to time the stock market. You might avoid losses by pulling out your money, but you might miss out on even bigger gains.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 05, 2015, 09:51:12 AM
well, we're a better team without Marcus because at the end of the ISU game he wasn't in there and we won. so marcus being gone isn't that big of a deal because of that one time.
We're better when Foster is playing well. period. at the same time, he was terrible in the ISU game, and in that particular game, the team was better with him on the bench. Benching him was the right call.
To me, this doesn't seem very controversial. good/great players have off nights. to beat UT and win a few games in the tourney, we'll need him to play well and play a lot of minutes.
The fact that the team was better with him on the bench does not mean benching him was the right call.
Sitting your best player because you think he is "off" is a lot like trying to time the stock market. You might avoid losses by pulling out your money, but you might miss out on even bigger gains.
That is a very apt analogy.
Post by: ArchE_Cat on March 05, 2015, 09:52:27 AM
well, we're a better team without Marcus because at the end of the ISU game he wasn't in there and we won. so marcus being gone isn't that big of a deal because of that one time.
We're better when Foster is playing well. period. at the same time, he was terrible in the ISU game, and in that particular game, the team was better with him on the bench. Benching him was the right call.
To me, this doesn't seem very controversial. good/great players have off nights. to beat UT and win a few games in the tourney, we'll need him to play well and play a lot of minutes.
The fact that the team was better with him on the bench does not mean benching him was the right call.
Sitting your best player because you think he is "off" is a lot like trying to time the stock market. You might avoid losses by pulling out your money, but you might miss out on even bigger gains.
exactly. oscar =blind squirrle
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 09:54:33 AM
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 05, 2015, 10:13:51 AM
by and large
:D
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2015, 10:16:24 AM
When a player's best trait is making threes and they go nearly a month and a half of the season and aren't even hitting 20% of those shots while shooting over 6 per game, its okay to sit him. And it reaches a point where they probably aren't your "best player" anymore. It doesn't mean they can't be again, but its pretty clear there was an attempt to let Marcus play/shoot through his issues and it simply hasn't happened. Meanwhile, he's a had a few games where did some other nice things (defense, rebounding), but by and large he simply hasn't been very good since before his suspension happened.
That's a different argument. If you think he's now a 20% shooter, you probably shouldn't play him at all.
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 05, 2015, 10:18:50 AM
When a player's best trait is making threes and they go nearly a month and a half of the season and aren't even hitting 20% of those shots while shooting over 6 per game, its okay to sit him. And it reaches a point where they probably aren't your "best player" anymore. It doesn't mean they can't be again, but its pretty clear there was an attempt to let Marcus play/shoot through his issues and it simply hasn't happened. Meanwhile, he's a had a few games where did some other nice things (defense, rebounding), but by and large he simply hasn't been very good since before his suspension happened.
That's a different argument. If you think he's now a 20% shooter, you probably shouldn't play him at all.
so, really, is there ever an appropriate time to sit your best player? other than foul trouble or fatigue, of course.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 05, 2015, 10:19:43 AM
by and large
:D
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Everyone knows that it's "Buy N Large".
Post by: pvegs on March 05, 2015, 10:20:28 AM
Over the past month, on multiple occasions,I have heard that Marcus cheering on the sideline shows his character is poor. Never a good explanation as to why.
#tucklife
Gonna win 'em all!
Again, this is the gpc podcast, but they just said the cheering is only when there's a big moment and the cameras could be on him and the rest of the time he's checked out on the bench. Also, that he's an ass in the locker room and doesn't play hard in games in which he can't score. Not earth shattering stuff.
Post by: sys on March 05, 2015, 10:23:34 AM
Over the past month, on multiple occasions,I have heard that Marcus cheering on the sideline shows his character is poor. Never a good explanation as to why.
he's cheering sarcastically, like martin used to do. it's very mean. "nice shot, jevon. great decision, jevon. you really helped the team, jevon."
Post by: #LIFE on March 05, 2015, 10:32:15 AM
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2015, 10:32:59 AM
When a player's best trait is making threes and they go nearly a month and a half of the season and aren't even hitting 20% of those shots while shooting over 6 per game, its okay to sit him. And it reaches a point where they probably aren't your "best player" anymore. It doesn't mean they can't be again, but its pretty clear there was an attempt to let Marcus play/shoot through his issues and it simply hasn't happened. Meanwhile, he's a had a few games where did some other nice things (defense, rebounding), but by and large he simply hasn't been very good since before his suspension happened.
That's a different argument. If you think he's now a 20% shooter, you probably shouldn't play him at all.
so, really, is there ever an appropriate time to sit your best player? other than foul trouble or fatigue, of course.
In theory, no. (Also excluding injury)
Post by: chum1 on March 05, 2015, 10:36:29 AM
SUB OUT: Foster, Marcus 10:01 16-16 +0
SUB IN : Foster, Marcus 08:13 18-20 -2
SUB OUT: Foster, Marcus 12:40 41-47 -4
SUB IN : Foster, Marcus 02:25 64-60 +10
SUB OUT: Foster, Marcus 01:09 66-61 +1
00:00 70-63 +2
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 05, 2015, 10:38:26 AM
When a player's best trait is making threes and they go nearly a month and a half of the season and aren't even hitting 20% of those shots while shooting over 6 per game, its okay to sit him. And it reaches a point where they probably aren't your "best player" anymore. It doesn't mean they can't be again, but its pretty clear there was an attempt to let Marcus play/shoot through his issues and it simply hasn't happened. Meanwhile, he's a had a few games where did some other nice things (defense, rebounding), but by and large he simply hasn't been very good since before his suspension happened.
That's a different argument. If you think he's now a 20% shooter, you probably shouldn't play him at all.
so, really, is there ever an appropriate time to sit your best player? other than foul trouble or fatigue, of course.
In theory, no. (Also excluding injury)
I imagine most coaches would disagree with you. Particularly good coaches.
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2015, 10:40:46 AM
When a player's best trait is making threes and they go nearly a month and a half of the season and aren't even hitting 20% of those shots while shooting over 6 per game, its okay to sit him. And it reaches a point where they probably aren't your "best player" anymore. It doesn't mean they can't be again, but its pretty clear there was an attempt to let Marcus play/shoot through his issues and it simply hasn't happened. Meanwhile, he's a had a few games where did some other nice things (defense, rebounding), but by and large he simply hasn't been very good since before his suspension happened.
That's a different argument. If you think he's now a 20% shooter, you probably shouldn't play him at all.
so, really, is there ever an appropriate time to sit your best player? other than foul trouble or fatigue, of course.
In theory, no. (Also excluding injury)
I imagine most coaches would disagree with you. Particularly good coaches.
I'm sure you're right. But I wonder what their justification would be?
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2015, 10:50:29 AM
When a player's best trait is making threes and they go nearly a month and a half of the season and aren't even hitting 20% of those shots while shooting over 6 per game, its okay to sit him. And it reaches a point where they probably aren't your "best player" anymore. It doesn't mean they can't be again, but its pretty clear there was an attempt to let Marcus play/shoot through his issues and it simply hasn't happened. Meanwhile, he's a had a few games where did some other nice things (defense, rebounding), but by and large he simply hasn't been very good since before his suspension happened.
That's a different argument. If you think he's now a 20% shooter, you probably shouldn't play him at all.
As a sophomore, I think you play him as much as possible to work through the obvious funk he is in. I think oscar has done that. I think it reaches a point where you have to put your more productive players on the floor. I think oscar has done that.
I don't think oscar handled Foster perfectly, but those issues probably started last year or even the end of the last season and oscar didn't catch them in time to correct them when they should have been corrected. He's paying the consequences for that now and it might end with him losing potentially best player that he has in the program.
Post by: Trim on March 05, 2015, 10:51:21 AM
Post by: pvegs on March 05, 2015, 10:59:43 AM
In the same part pvegs is talking about, fitz also made the common allusion to Foster's summer and how "his people" screwed him up. I'd meant to get that part to chingon but got interrupted.
Yeah it was weird to hear how angry all the guys were about Foster. Not just saying he hasn't played the same type of game or with the same effort, but also that he is essentially a worse person. It was the ultimate oscar couldn't have seen this coming, Foster ruined the season with his unexpected transformation into a lazy, 3 pt shooting prima donna bad person kind of defense.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 05, 2015, 11:05:52 AM
Post by: Trim on March 05, 2015, 11:17:11 AM
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2015, 11:17:39 AM
When a player's best trait is making threes and they go nearly a month and a half of the season and aren't even hitting 20% of those shots while shooting over 6 per game, its okay to sit him. And it reaches a point where they probably aren't your "best player" anymore. It doesn't mean they can't be again, but its pretty clear there was an attempt to let Marcus play/shoot through his issues and it simply hasn't happened. Meanwhile, he's a had a few games where did some other nice things (defense, rebounding), but by and large he simply hasn't been very good since before his suspension happened.
That's a different argument. If you think he's now a 20% shooter, you probably shouldn't play him at all.
As a sophomore, I think you play him as much as possible to work through the obvious funk he is in. I think oscar has done that. I think it reaches a point where you have to put your more productive players on the floor. I think oscar has done that.
I don't think oscar handled Foster perfectly, but those issues probably started last year or even the end of the last season and oscar didn't catch them in time to correct them when they should have been corrected. He's paying the consequences for that now and it might end with him losing potentially best player that he has in the program.
Is Foster less effective because he just got worse/lazy, or is it a failure of the staff to adjust to how Big 12 teams defended him this year?
Basically, if your best player is no longer your best player, do you change how you use him, or just play him less?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 11:17:48 AM
Post by: sunny_cat on March 05, 2015, 11:19:03 AM
First off, I love Foster. He's my guy. However, there's been many grumblings that he got a "I'm bigger than life "attitude"" after his freshman year at K-State. The camps he was invited to too, also impacted that ego when he came back in the fall. I can see how some teammates might be like "wtf man!" and how it could have spun into some drama in the locker room. I don't think Foster is a bitch tho and I don't think oscar knows how to handle good players with "attitudes".
really going out on a limb with your opinions there wacky
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 11:19:24 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 05, 2015, 11:19:58 AM
First off, I love Foster. He's my guy. However, there's been many grumblings that he got a "I'm bigger than life "attitude"" after his freshman year at K-State. The camps he was invited to too, also impacted that ego when he came back in the fall. I can see how some team mates might be like "wtf man!" and how it could have spun into some drama in the locker room. I don't think Foster is a bitch tho and I don't think oscar knows how to handle good players with "attitudes".
Would you say he "went Hollywood"?
Post by: sunny_cat on March 05, 2015, 11:20:11 AM
:lol:
;)
Post by: Trim on March 05, 2015, 11:21:50 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 11:22:32 AM
Yes. That Nick Wright POS. :shakesfist:First off, I love Foster. He's my guy. However, there's been many grumblings that he got a "I'm bigger than life "attitude"" after his freshman year at K-State. The camps he was invited to too, also impacted that ego when he came back in the fall. I can see how some team mates might be like "wtf man!" and how it could have spun into some drama in the locker room. I don't think Foster is a bitch tho and I don't think oscar knows how to handle good players with "attitudes".
Would you say he "went Hollywood"?
Post by: Skipper44 on March 05, 2015, 11:23:26 AM
I hope Foster stays but during this upcoming summer becomes militant and starts making personal demonstrations during next season's national anthems.what should he change his name to? Is Osama Barak Muhammad too over the top?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 05, 2015, 11:24:22 AM
I hope Foster stays but during this upcoming summer becomes militant and starts making personal demonstrations during next season's national anthems.what should he change his name to? Is Osama Barak Muhammad too over the top?
Barack Hussein Fotswana
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2015, 11:24:36 AM
Is Foster less effective because he just got worse/lazy, or is it a failure of the staff to adjust to how Big 12 teams defended him this year?
Basically, if your best player is no longer your best player, do you change how you use him, or just play him less?
Its a mix of a lot of things and you try to do a little bit of everything to get him back to the best player on your team, because obviously the potential he showed last year and much of this year is still there. I think oscar just reached the point in a couple games (ISU, TCU) where he didn't think Marcus playing 25+ minutes was the best for this team to win.
Post by: The Whale on March 05, 2015, 11:28:38 AM
I'm sure you're right. But I wonder what their justification would be?
The same sort of justification baseball managers use to pinch hit with worse bench players.
Post by: nicname on March 05, 2015, 11:34:03 AM
I hope Foster stays but during this upcoming summer becomes militant and starts making personal demonstrations during next season's national anthems.
Shaved head. Black socks n shoes. Perma-scowl.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2015, 11:36:30 AM
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 05, 2015, 11:42:48 AM
All that stuff said, I am dreaming about Foster going Clemente on the Horns Saturday. It would be fun.
He already did that last year.
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2015, 11:44:15 AM
Is Foster less effective because he just got worse/lazy, or is it a failure of the staff to adjust to how Big 12 teams defended him this year?
Basically, if your best player is no longer your best player, do you change how you use him, or just play him less?
Its a mix of a lot of things and you try to do a little bit of everything to get him back to the best player on your team, because obviously the potential he showed last year and much of this year is still there. I think oscar just reached the point in a couple games (ISU, TCU) where he didn't think Marcus playing 25+ minutes was the best for this team to win.
yeah but I haven't seen us do anything new with Marcus all year, other than set fewer ball screens for him after the Pitt disaster and play him less.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2015, 11:48:25 AM
All that stuff said, I am dreaming about Foster going Clemente on the Horns Saturday. It would be fun.
He already did that last year.
I mean, like doing it in Austin, but yeah, Marcus scoring 34 in the OOD was fun.
Post by: pvegs on March 05, 2015, 11:59:43 AM
Is Foster less effective because he just got worse/lazy, or is it a failure of the staff to adjust to how Big 12 teams defended him this year?
Basically, if your best player is no longer your best player, do you change how you use him, or just play him less?
Its a mix of a lot of things and you try to do a little bit of everything to get him back to the best player on your team, because obviously the potential he showed last year and much of this year is still there. I think oscar just reached the point in a couple games (ISU, TCU) where he didn't think Marcus playing 25+ minutes was the best for this team to win.
I think a lot of people have also confounded not playing well this year with not playing hard, with Marcus, and with numerous other players as well. There have been a number of games where Marcus played with high intensity but just wasn't that good. Or games where he wasn't that into it but hit key shots. Basically whether it's not playing hard/team chemistry, not coming up with new ways to utilize player talents, or not getting guys to improve season to season, it all goes back to oscar.
Post by: pissclams on March 05, 2015, 12:08:37 PM
I hope Foster stays but during this upcoming summer becomes militant and starts making personal demonstrations during next season's national anthems.what should he change his name to? Is Osama Barak Muhammad too over the top?
oil can boyd
Post by: Trim on March 05, 2015, 12:13:42 PM
I hope Foster stays but during this upcoming summer becomes militant and starts making personal demonstrations during next season's national anthems.what should he change his name to? Is Osama Barak Muhammad too over the top?
oil can boyd
:lol:
Fosz2
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2015, 12:16:36 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 12:17:46 PM
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 05, 2015, 12:20:11 PM
When a player's best trait is making threes and they go nearly a month and a half of the season and aren't even hitting 20% of those shots while shooting over 6 per game, its okay to sit him. And it reaches a point where they probably aren't your "best player" anymore. It doesn't mean they can't be again, but its pretty clear there was an attempt to let Marcus play/shoot through his issues and it simply hasn't happened. Meanwhile, he's a had a few games where did some other nice things (defense, rebounding), but by and large he simply hasn't been very good since before his suspension happened.
I agree 100%, but you're betraying the stat psuedo-wonks!!!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2015, 12:20:59 PM
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FORT MYERS, Fla. -- Former Boston Red Sox and Sioux City Explorers pitcher Dennis "Oil Can" Boyd says he probably pitched under the influence of cocaine "at every ballpark" during his 10-year career.:love:
"There wasn't one ballpark that I probably didn't stay up all night, until 4 or 5 in the morning, and the same thing is in your system," Boyd said in an interview with Jon Miller of WBZ radio in Boston. "It ain't like you had time to go and do it while you were in the game, which I have (done) that."
Post by: pissclams on March 05, 2015, 12:24:47 PM
I hope Foster stays but during this upcoming summer becomes militant and starts making personal demonstrations during next season's national anthems.what should he change his name to? Is Osama Barak Muhammad too over the top?
oil can boyd
:lol:
Fosz2
i don't go to GPC so i was really hoping i got that one right
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 05, 2015, 12:25:21 PM
When a player's best trait is making threes and they go nearly a month and a half of the season and aren't even hitting 20% of those shots while shooting over 6 per game, its okay to sit him. And it reaches a point where they probably aren't your "best player" anymore. It doesn't mean they can't be again, but its pretty clear there was an attempt to let Marcus play/shoot through his issues and it simply hasn't happened. Meanwhile, he's a had a few games where did some other nice things (defense, rebounding), but by and large he simply hasn't been very good since before his suspension happened.
That's a different argument. If you think he's now a 20% shooter, you probably shouldn't play him at all.
As a sophomore, I think you play him as much as possible to work through the obvious funk he is in. I think oscar has done that. I think it reaches a point where you have to put your more productive players on the floor. I think oscar has done that.
I don't think oscar handled Foster perfectly, but those issues probably started last year or even the end of the last season and oscar didn't catch them in time to correct them when they should have been corrected. He's paying the consequences for that now and it might end with him losing potentially best player that he has in the program.
Is Foster less effective because he just got worse/lazy, or is it a failure of the staff to adjust to how Big 12 teams defended him this year?
Basically, if your best player is no longer your best player, do you change how you use him, or just play him less?
Hey socrates, why don't you try and answer your own questions?
K, thx.
P.S.
You'd look like less of a dumbass if you just acknowledged that oscar sitting foster worked out well enough to beat the #8 and #12 ranked teams in the country back-to-back.. Something that good probably happens about none times per year to any team.
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2015, 12:27:23 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 05, 2015, 12:28:26 PM
oscar played Foster 27 minutes against KU. :dunno:
So you didn't even watch the game. Good grief
Post by: Trim on March 05, 2015, 12:46:14 PM
I hope Foster stays but during this upcoming summer becomes militant and starts making personal demonstrations during next season's national anthems.what should he change his name to? Is Osama Barak Muhammad too over the top?
oil can boyd
:lol:
Fosz2
i don't go to GPC so i was really hoping i got that one right
It was imperfectly perfect.
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2015, 12:48:56 PM
Should he have played less?oscar played Foster 27 minutes against KU. :dunno:
So you didn't even watch the game. Good grief
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 05, 2015, 12:56:25 PM
Should he have played less?oscar played Foster 27 minutes against KU. :dunno:
So you didn't even watch the game. Good grief
Should he have played MOAR???
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2015, 01:06:39 PM
Should he have played less?oscar played Foster 27 minutes against KU. :dunno:
So you didn't even watch the game. Good grief
Should he have played MOAR???
I think 27 minutes is about right for Foster. I was curious what you thought.
Post by: TheFormerKCCat on March 05, 2015, 02:27:58 PM
Marcus got busted for coke and converted to Islam while in jail? Any other details I left out?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 05, 2015, 02:35:30 PM
I hope Foster stays but during this upcoming summer becomes militant and starts making personal demonstrations during next season's national anthems.what should he change his name to? Is Osama Barak Muhammad too over the top?
oil can boyd
:lol:
Fosz2
i don't go to GPC so i was really hoping i got that one right
Close enough
Post by: MakeItRain on March 05, 2015, 02:38:06 PM
If Foster is truly as bad a person as oscar is leading people to believe (I'm assuming that he's at least somewhat responsible for the picture that the media has painted of Marcus), and this "change" happened at the end of last season, then he should have been kicked off the team during the summer or fall practice. oscar would be a dipshit to keep a malcontent around that long, knowing that it would have a good chance of derailing this season.
100% unfair to put the bullshit Fitz is spewing on oscar. You also shouldn't attribute this garbage to the media, this crap isn't coming from anywhere else from GPC.
Post by: pvegs on March 05, 2015, 03:11:36 PM
If Foster is truly as bad a person as oscar is leading people to believe (I'm assuming that he's at least somewhat responsible for the picture that the media has painted of Marcus), and this "change" happened at the end of last season, then he should have been kicked off the team during the summer or fall practice. oscar would be a dipshit to keep a malcontent around that long, knowing that it would have a good chance of derailing this season.
100% unfair to put the bullshit Fitz is spewing on oscar. You also shouldn't attribute this garbage to the media, this crap isn't coming from anywhere else from GPC.
Agree with MIR. Fitz and whoever the other yes men are on the podcast were basing it on their observations from the locker room and interviews, not quoting oscar or specific evidence.
Post by: Trim on March 05, 2015, 03:54:09 PM
their observations from the locker room and interviews
and the part of their minds that's working on what would play well to their audience.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 05, 2015, 04:42:47 PM
If Foster is truly as bad a person as oscar is leading people to believe (I'm assuming that he's at least somewhat responsible for the picture that the media has painted of Marcus), and this "change" happened at the end of last season, then he should have been kicked off the team during the summer or fall practice. oscar would be a dipshit to keep a malcontent around that long, knowing that it would have a good chance of derailing this season.
100% unfair to put the bullshit Fitz is spewing on oscar. You also shouldn't attribute this garbage to the media, this crap isn't coming from anywhere else from GPC.
oscar hasn't done anything to defend Marcus to anybody, all year long. To assume that he's talking glowingly about him off the record is naive, imo. Also, Fitz is not the only person talking about Marcus' "people" and what supposedly happened this summer/late last year. The Lebron camp being some sort of an issue was mentioned during at least a couple television broadcasts this year, and although not nearly as vile as Fitz, the media in general has chosen to put a large part of this season's blame at the feet of Marcus Foster, without having any idea why he was suspended. Several announcers have talked about Marcus' need to grow up, and that if he listens to upstanding citizen oscar Weber, then he will surely find himself on the right path in life. I have a hard time believing oscar had nothing to do with the general attitude people outside the program have toward Marcus Foster.
Post by: chum1 on March 05, 2015, 04:55:06 PM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 05, 2015, 04:58:42 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2015, 05:25:56 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 05, 2015, 06:28:37 PM
The notion that Foster needs "people" to make him realize that he would have a better chance of making the league as a point guard is pretty insulting by itself. I mean, no crap.
Fran didn't say anything about people in his ear, he did talk about Marcus playing point guard at the skills camp, Fitz and his customer base decided to take it the step further and bring up shadowy "people" and "handlers."
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2015, 06:49:37 PM
The notion that Foster needs "people" to make him realize that he would have a better chance of making the league as a point guard is pretty insulting by itself. I mean, no crap.
Fran didn't say anything about people in his ear, he did talk about Marcus playing point guard at the skills camp, Fitz and his customer base decided to take it the step further and bring up shadowy "people" and "handlers."
well, it's still insulting without even getting into the junior-racist "handler" accusations.
Post by: Trim on March 05, 2015, 07:24:15 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2015, 07:38:51 PM
So am I reading correctly? Bringing up "handlers" and "his people" in and of itself, is . . . racist?I said it was "junior racist".
I just want to be sure that, well, a facet of the modern game of college/high school/AAU basketball that has been, well, to say the least, been extremely well documented over the course of time . . . to discuss it, is . . . racist?
Mmkay.
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2015, 07:48:33 PM
So, if I say that Mike Beasley had advisors/people/handlers (which he did), I'm a (gulp) a "junior racist"?
almost
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2015, 07:55:35 PM
So, if I say that Mike Beasley had advisors/people/handlers (which he did), I'm a (gulp) a "junior racist"?
almost
This is kind a cool then, I mean, if ku people talk about Connor Frankamp's (sp?) dad, if they do it in a certain (cRusty doesn't like it) kind of way, we can call them almost junior racists. Awesome
Everyone calls Connor Frankamp's dad a "dad". Same with Will Spradling's dad.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 05, 2015, 08:19:34 PM
Black Athlete = People/Handlers
How is that not racist?
Post by: wetwillie on March 05, 2015, 08:41:47 PM
White Athlete = Family/Friends
Black Athlete = People/Handlers
How is that not racist?
Is Melvin Foster telling his son he needs to play PG to get to the league? I didn't realize we had another Shannon spradling on our hands.
Post by: Mr Bread on March 05, 2015, 08:43:24 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 05, 2015, 08:53:25 PM
White Athlete = Family/Friends
Black Athlete = People/Handlers
How is that not racist?
Is Melvin Foster telling his son he needs to play PG to get to the league? I didn't realize we had another Shannon spradling on our hands.
I don't think Marcus has a "family/friends/people/handler" issue. I do believe people this summer told him he needs to develop more as a "point guard" to have a shot at the league. But I don't really think that is an issue either. I don't think the people around Foster will push for a transfer either, I have some hope for him staying around.
Post by: 'taterblast on March 05, 2015, 08:59:24 PM
animals have handlers
so do presidents
Post by: pvegs on March 05, 2015, 08:59:44 PM
White Athlete = Family/Friends
Black Athlete = People/Handlers
How is that not racist?
Is Melvin Foster telling his son he needs to play PG to get to the league? I didn't realize we had another Shannon spradling on our hands.
I don't think Marcus has a "family/friends/people/handler" issue. I do believe people this summer told him he needs to develop more as a "point guard" to have a shot at the league. But I don't really think that is an issue either. I don't think the people around Foster will push for a transfer either, I have some hope for him staying around.
His game this season resembles Tre Harris with more shot usage, so maybe we should put to rest the his "parents/handlers/scouts/friends/extended family" encouraged him to become a point guard to make the league narrative.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 05, 2015, 09:00:48 PM
White Athlete = Family/Friends
Black Athlete = People/Handlers
How is that not racist?
Is Melvin Foster telling his son he needs to play PG to get to the league? I didn't realize we had another Shannon spradling on our hands.
I don't think Marcus has a "family/friends/people/handler" issue. I do believe people this summer told him he needs to develop more as a "point guard" to have a shot at the league. But I don't really think that is an issue either. I don't think the people around Foster will push for a transfer either, I have some hope for him staying around.
Yeah, I think he'll stick around as well. He seems like a pretty good kid getting good advice from family and his high school/AAU coach. Tucks are probably not going to be thrilled when he comes back, and it will be tough for them to give him his due if he plays well next year.
Post by: Mr Bread on March 05, 2015, 09:04:29 PM
animals have handlers
so do presidents
:opcat:
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2015, 09:05:43 PM
Advisorsanimals have handlers
so do presidents
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 05, 2015, 09:08:36 PM
White Athlete = Family/Friends
Black Athlete = People/Handlers
How is that not racist?
Is Melvin Foster telling his son he needs to play PG to get to the league? I didn't realize we had another Shannon spradling on our hands.
I don't think Marcus has a "family/friends/people/handler" issue. I do believe people this summer told him he needs to develop more as a "point guard" to have a shot at the league. But I don't really think that is an issue either. I don't think the people around Foster will push for a transfer either, I have some hope for him staying around.
Yeah, I think he'll stick around as well. He seems like a pretty good kid getting good advice from family and his high school/AAU coach. Tucks are probably not going to be thrilled when he comes back, and it will be tough for them to give him his due if he plays well next year.
I think he will play well next year if we get out in transition more, I think that has really hurt Fosters game. Foster has shot more threes this year and I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Now, since coming back he has pressed a little bit and had some poor shot selectoin. Big issue is that last year is he attempted 100 more 2fgs this year.
If Foster didn't have the suspension, I don't think everyone (tucks) would be overreacting to his play.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 05, 2015, 09:44:34 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 05, 2015, 09:59:43 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on March 05, 2015, 10:00:54 PM
Advisorsanimals have handlers
so do presidents
i mean, you're kidding, but one of my favorite lewis black stand up bits is about george bush's "handlers."
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2015, 10:06:23 PM
This is on the first page of a Google search for "presidential handler"Advisorsanimals have handlers
so do presidents
i mean, you're kidding, but one of my favorite lewis black stand up bits is about george bush's "handlers."
http://www.theonion.com/articles/vice-presidential-handlers-lure-cheney-into-travel,6526/
Post by: star seed 7 on March 05, 2015, 10:39:41 PM
Post by: stunted on March 05, 2015, 10:40:14 PM
Post by: SdK on March 05, 2015, 11:27:43 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2015, 11:30:12 PM
Handlers has a negative connotation but people who assist black athletes are going to be more value-taking than value-giving compared to handlers of white athletes. Also on average going to be less intelligent. Funny how people get so offended by how things are termed and the need for everything to be equal. Stereotypes exist for a reason. It's no coincidence I've been in 3 minor car accidents (barely missing another one).
:whistle1:
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 05, 2015, 11:33:34 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 05, 2015, 11:34:53 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 05, 2015, 11:40:30 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 06, 2015, 12:04:22 AM
Handlers has a negative connotation but people who assist black athletes are going to be more value-taking than value-giving compared to handlers of white athletes. Also on average going to be less intelligent. Funny how people get so offended by how things are termed and the need for everything to be equal. Stereotypes exist for a reason. It's no coincidence I've been in 3 minor car accidents (barely missing another one).
I weep for you
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Post by: stunted on March 06, 2015, 02:35:19 AM
http://qph.is.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2e888616ece9f59b3ba62e1b349c70a4?convert_to_webp=true
But really, don't hate me because I'm right
Post by: Asteriskhead on March 06, 2015, 05:40:40 AM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 06, 2015, 07:24:01 AM
Should he have played less?oscar played Foster 27 minutes against KU. :dunno:
So you didn't even watch the game. Good grief
Should he have played MOAR???
I think 27 minutes is about right for Foster. I was curious what you thought.
I'm curious as to how you think you can criticize his "benching" one moment and then say he played the right amount (when he sat the last 12 minutes of the game) in another.
Bullshit train coming through, Choo choo
Post by: michigancat on March 06, 2015, 07:30:02 AM
I was questioning the benching against Iowa State. I don't care what part of the game the minutes come from.Should he have played less?oscar played Foster 27 minutes against KU. :dunno:
So you didn't even watch the game. Good grief
Should he have played MOAR???
I think 27 minutes is about right for Foster. I was curious what you thought.
I'm curious as to how you think you can criticize his "benching" one moment and then say he played the right amount (when he sat the last 12 minutes of the game) in another.
Bullshit train coming through, Choo choo
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 06, 2015, 07:31:56 AM
Post by: michigancat on March 06, 2015, 07:45:22 AM
Yes, we've established you're full of crap. Now answer my questionYou didn't ask a question. And do you think Foster should have played less against Kansas? (<-actual question I asked that you wouldn't answer.)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 06, 2015, 08:39:38 AM
Pretending you don't think it's significant that he sat the last 12 minutes against KU, when we turned a 7 point deficit into a 7 point win, is about as disingenuous of a talking point as we'll see here in bbs land. It's Junior Bullshit.
Post by: pvegs on March 06, 2015, 08:52:25 AM
Handlers has a negative connotation but people who assist black athletes are going to be more value-taking than value-giving compared to handlers of white athletes. Also on average going to be less intelligent. Funny how people get so offended by how things are termed and the need for everything to be equal. Stereotypes exist for a reason. It's no coincidence I've been in 3 minor car accidents (barely missing another one).
Just curious, but how is your super racist point related to your car accident anecdote?
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 06, 2015, 09:08:04 AM
:popcorn:Handlers has a negative connotation but people who assist black athletes are going to be more value-taking than value-giving compared to handlers of white athletes. Also on average going to be less intelligent. Funny how people get so offended by how things are termed and the need for everything to be equal. Stereotypes exist for a reason. It's no coincidence I've been in 3 minor car accidents (barely missing another one).
Just curious, but how is your super racist point related to your car accident anecdote?
Post by: dmartin on March 06, 2015, 09:49:20 AM
Handlers has a negative connotation but people who assist black athletes are going to be more value-taking than value-giving compared to handlers of white athletes. Also on average going to be less intelligent. Funny how people get so offended by how things are termed and the need for everything to be equal. Stereotypes exist for a reason. It's no coincidence I've been in 3 minor car accidents (barely missing another one).
Just curious, but how is your super racist point related to your car accident anecdote?
Perhaps he's asian? stunted = "short"
Post by: renocat on March 06, 2015, 10:14:13 AM
Post by: michigancat on March 06, 2015, 10:29:31 AM
You're not going to weasel out of this one, pal.Do you think he should have played less?
Pretending you don't think it's significant that he sat the last 12 minutes against KU, when we turned a 7 point deficit into a 7 point win, is about as disingenuous of a talking point as we'll see here in bbs land. It's Junior Bullshit.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 06, 2015, 10:34:09 AM
The notion that Foster needs "people" to make him realize that he would have a better chance of making the league as a point guard is pretty insulting by itself. I mean, no crap.
Fran didn't say anything about people in his ear, he did talk about Marcus playing point guard at the skills camp, Fitz and his customer base decided to take it the step further and bring up shadowy "people" and "handlers."
I think Fran probably has a good take on what's going on, though to be fair its probably slanted toward a coach's side of things. Unlike most media, he actually attends practices and spends time with coaches. He is hearing their take on it and not only oscar and his staff, but other Big 12 coaches and their staffs. I'm sure the topic of Marcus has come up outside of just his time with K-State coaches because he's a prominent player in this league having a bad season.
Fitz is hearing 2nd/3rd hand info (at best) and I think its been a long time since he had solid connections with either football or basketball.
Post by: Panjandrum on March 06, 2015, 10:38:42 AM
The notion that Foster needs "people" to make him realize that he would have a better chance of making the league as a point guard is pretty insulting by itself. I mean, no crap.
Fran didn't say anything about people in his ear, he did talk about Marcus playing point guard at the skills camp, Fitz and his customer base decided to take it the step further and bring up shadowy "people" and "handlers."
I think Fran probably has a good take on what's going on, though to be fair its probably slanted toward a coach's side of things. Unlike most media, he actually attends practices and spends time with coaches. He is hearing their take on it and not only oscar and his staff, but other Big 12 coaches and their staffs. I'm sure the topic of Marcus has come up outside of just his time with K-State coaches because he's a prominent player in this league having a bad season.
Fitz is hearing 2nd/3rd hand info (at best) and I think its been a long time since he had solid connections with either football or basketball.
The fact that the AD has noticeably distanced themselves from him is pretty telling.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 06, 2015, 10:41:34 AM
Post by: #LIFE on March 06, 2015, 10:49:03 AM
i'm not saying that fran repeats exactly what the coaches tell him to say, but there are times it certainly sounds like it and i love fran.
I enjoy him very much. Dan Dakich, on the other hand...I would like to punch his stupid face
Post by: pvegs on March 06, 2015, 10:51:47 AM
The notion that Foster needs "people" to make him realize that he would have a better chance of making the league as a point guard is pretty insulting by itself. I mean, no crap.
Fran didn't say anything about people in his ear, he did talk about Marcus playing point guard at the skills camp, Fitz and his customer base decided to take it the step further and bring up shadowy "people" and "handlers."
I think Fran probably has a good take on what's going on, though to be fair its probably slanted toward a coach's side of things. Unlike most media, he actually attends practices and spends time with coaches. He is hearing their take on it and not only oscar and his staff, but other Big 12 coaches and their staffs. I'm sure the topic of Marcus has come up outside of just his time with K-State coaches because he's a prominent player in this league having a bad season.
Fitz is hearing 2nd/3rd hand info (at best) and I think its been a long time since he had solid connections with either football or basketball.
So I still don't get how the Marcus was told he should play PG to make the NBA narrative figures in our season. Like he came back from those camps and told oscar he wanted to play PG and oscar laughed in his dumb face and Marcus' reaction was to become a 3 pt shooting specialist team cancer?
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 06, 2015, 11:00:25 AM
The notion that Foster needs "people" to make him realize that he would have a better chance of making the league as a point guard is pretty insulting by itself. I mean, no crap.
Fran didn't say anything about people in his ear, he did talk about Marcus playing point guard at the skills camp, Fitz and his customer base decided to take it the step further and bring up shadowy "people" and "handlers."
I think Fran probably has a good take on what's going on, though to be fair its probably slanted toward a coach's side of things. Unlike most media, he actually attends practices and spends time with coaches. He is hearing their take on it and not only oscar and his staff, but other Big 12 coaches and their staffs. I'm sure the topic of Marcus has come up outside of just his time with K-State coaches because he's a prominent player in this league having a bad season.
Fitz is hearing 2nd/3rd hand info (at best) and I think its been a long time since he had solid connections with either football or basketball.
So I still don't get how the Marcus was told he should play PG to make the NBA narrative figures in our season. Like he came back from those camps and told oscar he wanted to play PG and oscar laughed in his dumb face and Marcus' reaction was to become a 3 pt shooting specialist team cancer?
This is what happens when everybody is shitting on one of your players, and you as a coach don't try to put a stop to it or at least provide some context. People make their own rough ridin' narrative, no matter how stupid it or asinine it may be, and as long as there is some form of consensus, then everybody feels justified in running with it.
Post by: michigancat on March 06, 2015, 11:25:00 AM
Post by: stunted on March 06, 2015, 11:29:26 AM
Handlers has a negative connotation but people who assist black athletes are going to be more value-taking than value-giving compared to handlers of white athletes. Also on average going to be less intelligent. Funny how people get so offended by how things are termed and the need for everything to be equal. Stereotypes exist for a reason. It's no coincidence I've been in 3 minor car accidents (barely missing another one).
Just curious, but how is your super racist point related to your car accident anecdote?
is it super racist if its correct?
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 06, 2015, 11:56:15 AM
Handlers has a negative connotation but people who assist black athletes are going to be more value-taking than value-giving compared to handlers of white athletes. Also on average going to be less intelligent. Funny how people get so offended by how things are termed and the need for everything to be equal. Stereotypes exist for a reason. It's no coincidence I've been in 3 minor car accidents (barely missing another one).
Just curious, but how is your super racist point related to your car accident anecdote?
is it super racist if its correct?
Dude :facepalm:
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 06, 2015, 12:02:32 PM
I think the whole "handlers are whispering that he needs to play PG to make it in the league" just creates a narrative that he isn't doing exactly what the coaches want him to do, which maybe explains lazyness? No idea.
None of us know what's going on. Suggesting that he has handlers/family driving a wedge between him and the coach/team is as unfounded and ridiculous as arguing that there is no possible way that handlers/family are inter-meddling.
What we know: AAU handlers/advisers conflicting with (or working with - in the case of Tim Floyd) college coaches is a real problem.
What we don't know: whether it's a problem here.
Post by: michigancat on March 06, 2015, 12:10:56 PM
I think the whole "handlers are whispering that he needs to play PG to make it in the league" just creates a narrative that he isn't doing exactly what the coaches want him to do, which maybe explains lazyness? No idea.
None of us know what's going on. Suggesting that he has handlers/family driving a wedge between him and the coach/team is as unfounded and ridiculous as arguing that there is no possible way that handlers/family are inter-meddling.
What we know: AAU handlers/advisers conflicting with (or working with - in the case of Tim Floyd) college coaches is a real problem.
What we don't know: whether it's a problem here.
You think handlers are telling Marcus to play lazier or something? Floyd/Mayo didn't seem to hurt on-court performance much.
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 06, 2015, 12:23:39 PM
You think handlers are telling Marcus to play lazier or something? Floyd/Mayo didn't seem to hurt on-court performance much.
No, I don't think this.
I don't get the sense that he's playing with a lot of effort. I don't know why that is.
Floyd/Mayo is literally the polar opposite of what GPC is suggesting here. Whereas Floyd was in bed with Mayo's handler, GPC is suggesting that oscar and Foster's people are butting heads over Foster's role on the team.
Post by: michigancat on March 06, 2015, 12:35:15 PM
Floyd/Mayo is literally the polar opposite of what GPC is suggesting here. Whereas Floyd was in bed with Mayo's handler, GPC is suggesting that oscar and Foster's people are butting heads over Foster's role on the team.
Yeah, and as many have pointed out, there is nothing on the court that supports this narrative - Foster shoots less and more of his shots are three's this year - which doesn't sound like someone going against his coach's wishes by showcasing PG skills. (This is why it is more ridiculous to suggest outside influences are a problem in this case.)
Post by: kso_FAN on March 06, 2015, 12:42:01 PM
I think Marcus went from being a guy who had a mentality to prove everyone wrong because he was under-recruited to being a guy that was a little too satisfied with where he was at. oscar and staff weren't able to find the right motivation. It happens, he's only a sophomore. He'll mature like most kids and get better. I just hope he does it here.
Post by: michigancat on March 06, 2015, 12:43:25 PM
I don't buy the pg stuff.
I think Marcus went from being a guy who had a mentality to prove everyone wrong because he was under-recruited to being a guy that was a little too satisfied with where he was at. oscar and staff weren't able to find the right motivation. It happens, he's only a sophomore. He'll mature like most kids and get better. I just hope he does it here.
I don't like that narrative because it suggests that oscar may be partially at fault.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 06, 2015, 12:47:50 PM
I don't buy the pg stuff.
I think Marcus went from being a guy who had a mentality to prove everyone wrong because he was under-recruited to being a guy that was a little too satisfied with where he was at. oscar and staff weren't able to find the right motivation. It happens, he's only a sophomore. He'll mature like most kids and get better. I just hope he does it here.
I don't like that narrative because it suggests that oscar may be partially at fault.
:D
Managing players and egos is part of the job.
Post by: #LIFE on March 06, 2015, 12:53:03 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 06, 2015, 01:16:14 PM
I'm of an opinion that any problem at any time is the coach's fault. They're the ones getting paid to be there, not the student athletes.I don't buy the pg stuff.
I think Marcus went from being a guy who had a mentality to prove everyone wrong because he was under-recruited to being a guy that was a little too satisfied with where he was at. oscar and staff weren't able to find the right motivation. It happens, he's only a sophomore. He'll mature like most kids and get better. I just hope he does it here.
I don't like that narrative because it suggests that oscar may be partially at fault.
:D
Managing players and egos is part of the job.
Blizzard? Blame oscar!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 06, 2015, 01:26:14 PM
You're not going to weasel out of this one, pal.Do you think he should have played less?
Pretending you don't think it's significant that he sat the last 12 minutes against KU, when we turned a 7 point deficit into a 7 point win, is about as disingenuous of a talking point as we'll see here in bbs land. It's Junior Bullshit.
Okay, then.
Post by: Cire on March 06, 2015, 01:28:49 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 06, 2015, 01:30:46 PM
Is there a PC term for man with nefarious motives who manipulates young basketball players so they can funnel them to certain schools and sports agents?
Post by: sys on March 06, 2015, 02:41:25 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 06, 2015, 02:45:54 PM
lol, stunner. makes me nostalgic for the golden age of messageboarding.
it was like being in second grade and every day was christmas
Post by: yoman on March 07, 2015, 12:59:04 AM
lol, stunner. makes me nostalgic for the golden age of messageboarding.
I don't agree with Stun's point even if he's KSUFanning; however, I miss the GRCOAT days.
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 07, 2015, 12:50:10 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 09, 2015, 05:32:04 PM
Growth?
Post by: Dub on March 09, 2015, 05:35:35 PM
https://twitter.com/kencorbitt/status/575061217779277824
Growth?
Announcing his transfer?
Post by: Trim on March 09, 2015, 06:02:30 PM
https://twitter.com/Joel_Jellison/status/575067895480242177
Post by: CNS on March 09, 2015, 06:17:35 PM
Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk
Post by: mocat on March 09, 2015, 06:40:00 PM
Hambone!
https://twitter.com/Joel_Jellison/status/575067895480242177
ok, Joel Jellison :lol:
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 09, 2015, 07:25:49 PM
Hambone!
https://twitter.com/Joel_Jellison/status/575067895480242177
I want Marcus to finish a successful college career at K-State. That would make me happy. :Woohoo:
Post by: kso_FAN on March 09, 2015, 07:49:22 PM
Hambone!
https://twitter.com/Joel_Jellison/status/575067895480242177
I want Marcus to finish a successful college career at K-State. That would make me happy. :Woohoo:
Yeah, I like it. Foster being at K-State is good for K-State.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 09, 2015, 07:59:03 PM
K-State good for Foster. Foster good for K-State. K-State is Foster. Foster is K-StateHambone!
https://twitter.com/Joel_Jellison/status/575067895480242177
I want Marcus to finish a successful college career at K-State. That would make me happy. :Woohoo:
Yeah, I like it. Foster being at K-State is good for K-State.
Sounds like a win-win for everyone concerned.
:bball:
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 09, 2015, 08:30:54 PM
If he stays in spite of the adversity, we don't deserve a player like Foster. The rough ridin' mother theresa of adversity. (j/k mother theresa was an bad person, but you get my point)K-State good for Foster. Foster good for K-State. K-State is Foster. Foster is K-StateHambone!
https://twitter.com/Joel_Jellison/status/575067895480242177
I want Marcus to finish a successful college career at K-State. That would make me happy. :Woohoo:
Yeah, I like it. Foster being at K-State is good for K-State.
Sounds like a win-win for everyone concerned.
:bball:
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 09, 2015, 08:38:40 PM
wut? :confused:If he stays in spite of the adversity, we don't deserve a player like Foster. The rough ridin' mother theresa of adversity. (j/k mother theresa was an bad person, but you get my point)K-State good for Foster. Foster good for K-State. K-State is Foster. Foster is K-StateHambone!
https://twitter.com/Joel_Jellison/status/575067895480242177
I want Marcus to finish a successful college career at K-State. That would make me happy. :Woohoo:
Yeah, I like it. Foster being at K-State is good for K-State.
Sounds like a win-win for everyone concerned.
:bball:
Post by: #LIFE on March 12, 2015, 10:01:37 AM
Quote
IMHO Foster is purposely playing badly, (intentionally missing shots, uncharacteristically bad passes and ball handling). It reminds me of Angel Rodriguez's last shot as a Wildcat vs. LaSalle which I swear he intentionally missed/half-assed.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 12, 2015, 10:03:14 AM
:facepalm: with a touch of :opcat:QuoteIMHO Foster is purposely playing badly, (intentionally missing shots, uncharacteristically bad passes and ball handling). It reminds me of Angel Rodriguez's last shot as a Wildcat vs. LaSalle which I swear he intentionally missed/half-assed.
That is incredibly dumb.
Post by: 'taterblast on March 25, 2015, 08:26:19 AM
i feel that maybe we are underappreciating, or not adequately addressing the impact Foster could have with four years here.
guys, he has it all.
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:frown:
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on March 25, 2015, 09:55:21 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2015, 10:13:19 AM
I hope he gets on a team that plays us next year and rubs his dick in oscar's face.
He won't be able to play next year, maybe in 2?
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2015, 10:14:45 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on March 25, 2015, 10:15:24 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 25, 2015, 10:17:10 AM
Post by: Mr Bread on March 25, 2015, 10:17:52 AM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 25, 2015, 10:31:35 AM
I hope he gets on a team that plays us next year and rubs his dick in oscar's face.
He won't be able to play next year, maybe in 2?
Isn't there an exemption for players that get run off? Seems like this would be the definition of getting run off.
Post by: steve dave on March 25, 2015, 10:32:26 AM
I hope he goes to South Carolina
YES. or SFA.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 25, 2015, 10:36:05 AM
Post by: CNS on March 25, 2015, 11:46:53 AM
Post by: Skipper44 on March 25, 2015, 11:50:15 AM
I bet it's LSU, A&M, or something like that. He is too big for SMU, imo.LSU can give us the Josh Gray/Marcus Foster backcourt we dreamed of
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 25, 2015, 11:51:03 AM
Post by: CNS on March 25, 2015, 11:51:54 AM
Was SMU too small for Semi?
1. I have no clue
2. Semi was a kid who saw the bench and wanted out. Marcus is a rough ridin' all conf star who's coach is a dumbass
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 25, 2015, 11:53:08 AM
Post by: CNS on March 25, 2015, 11:56:05 AM
True, but SMU has really been swinging their dicks these days with stud recruits. I could see LSU too.
Yeah, and who wouldn't want to play for Larry. That said, they are the big fish in a small pond. If Marcus is the guy that tucks want us to think he is, the kid wants national television and match ups that get discussion before and after.
Post by: kslim on March 25, 2015, 12:01:51 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2015, 12:04:03 PM
Post by: CNS on March 25, 2015, 12:05:04 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2015, 12:23:05 PM
I am pretty sure he isn't going Big12. Don't think there is any way he wants to sit two years and I am pretty sure MIR dispelled the thought of him getting some exemption in another thread.
The NCAA officially changed the transfer hardship rules last week: http://newsok.com/ncaa-changes-eligibility-rules-for-transfer-athletes-requesting-hardship-waivers-for-immediate-playing-time/article/5402603
Post by: CNS on March 25, 2015, 12:25:52 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on March 25, 2015, 12:30:02 PM
Post by: CNS on March 25, 2015, 12:44:34 PM
yeah, it would seem like being dismissed from the team would make him a candidate for the run off rule but I can't find any specifics on the rule :dunno:
that article said no more immediate eligibility, but instead, they would get a 6th yr.
Post by: Skipper44 on March 25, 2015, 01:09:57 PM
I took that as they didn't want to have to evaluate how sick grandma was for hardships and I was under the impression that the "run off rule" was created as an answer to oversigning & coaches leaving.yeah, it would seem like being dismissed from the team would make him a candidate for the run off rule but I can't find any specifics on the rule :dunno:
that article said no more immediate eligibility, but instead, they would get a 6th yr.
Post by: pvegs on March 25, 2015, 01:16:45 PM
Post by: Spracne on March 25, 2015, 01:21:03 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2015, 01:21:29 PM
Post by: CNS on March 25, 2015, 01:22:08 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 25, 2015, 01:24:05 PM
I thought this narrative would probably be coming.
Oh absolutely. oscar Weber and the cloud of loser may be the most predictable thing this side of the tides. This entire script has already played out.
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 25, 2015, 01:24:31 PM
Post by: Havs on March 25, 2015, 01:26:58 PM
Post by: kstate4life on March 25, 2015, 01:27:58 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 25, 2015, 01:30:10 PM
Iowa State or Texas A&M.No ISU, unfortunately, he'd have to sit out 2 years to xfer intra-conference.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 25, 2015, 01:33:30 PM
Post by: Havs on March 25, 2015, 01:36:12 PM
Iowa State or Texas A&M.No ISU, unfortunately, he'd have to sit out 2 years to xfer intra-conference.
Personally, having him at Texas A&M would be fun to watch. In fact, I'd invite MarcusPAK at my place too. The problem is that Billy Kennedy is oscar McDermott 2.0. Marcus doesn't need any more of this crap.
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2015, 01:44:46 PM
Ironic the team cancer is :bigtoke:, when :bigtoke: is used to treat symptoms of actual cancer.Ha!
Post by: The Whale on March 25, 2015, 01:49:17 PM
Looks like it might have worked with the runoff rule, too bad he wasn't cancer'ey enough to be dismissed a couple weeks ago.
Instead of kicking him off the team during his suspension, oscar held on to and played Marcus through the final game of the season. He ended up screwing him the process.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 25, 2015, 01:49:49 PM
Fitz on Wichita radio saying no one liked Foster and he's not in touch with his family or AAU. Also said he's trying to declare for the NBA draft and strong inferences to being on drugs. Oh boy.
i like how it's nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing and then marcus is gone and all of the sudden tim fitzgerald has tons of information about what has been going on the five months with marcus and ksu and it all seems to paint kstate and weber in a good light and the player that's gone in a bad one.
i'm sure he's not done pumping out whatever pro ksu propoganda he's been directed to pump out. can't wait for the upcoming trash foster article or for him to be on w/ keitz sometime soon and pump some ksu sunshine.
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2015, 01:54:04 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 25, 2015, 01:56:25 PM
Fitz on Wichita radio saying no one liked Foster and he's not in touch with his family or AAU. Also said he's trying to declare for the NBA draft and strong inferences to being on drugs. Oh boy.
i like how it's nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing and then marcus is gone and all of the sudden tim fitzgerald has tons of information about what has been going on the five months with marcus and ksu and it all seems to paint kstate and weber in a good light and the player that's gone in a bad one.
i'm sure he's not done pumping out whatever pro ksu propoganda he's been directed to pump out. can't wait for the upcoming trash foster article or for him to be on w/ keitz sometime soon and pump some ksu sunshine.
It's phenomenal in it's logical inconsistency
Post by: EMAWzified on March 25, 2015, 01:57:24 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 25, 2015, 02:00:46 PM
Post by: CNS on March 25, 2015, 02:02:10 PM
Foster loved K-State so much that he refused to transfer when oscar had his talk. He told oscar that the only way he wasn't wearing purple next year is if oscar kicks him off the team, because he's no quitter.
Marcus was showing oscar what it meant to be a leader and stick to something, even if it meant having to do things that are tough.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 25, 2015, 02:17:18 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 25, 2015, 02:23:48 PM
http://themercury.com/articles/why-did-weber-dismiss-fosterQuoteQ: Why did oscar Weber run off Marcus Foster from the basketball team? A: Yeah, that’s the question, isn’t it? There’s been no explanation, but there are clues that point to drugs. - See more at: http://themercury.com/articles/why-did-weber-dismiss-foster#sthash.LohDBEod.dpufQuoteOn Twitter, Foster said one day last week during K-State’s spring break that he was “lit on the beach” in South Padre Island, Texas. A photo with the tweet showed Foster and Tre Harris (wearing Big 12 logo sunglasses) holding a fake lizard named Randolph. That tweet was removed from Twitter the same day it was posted. “Lit” is generally thought to mean drunk or high on drugs. Not at all clear what the lizard was about. - See more at: http://themercury.com/articles/why-did-weber-dismiss-foster#sthash.LohDBEod.dpuf
:lol:
Post by: 0.42 on March 25, 2015, 02:25:29 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 25, 2015, 02:27:39 PM
Post by: CHONGS on March 25, 2015, 02:27:47 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2015, 02:28:36 PM
Post by: 0.42 on March 25, 2015, 02:28:49 PM
Post by: Gooch on March 25, 2015, 02:31:22 PM
Can Randolph play guard?Currie would drug screen the eff out of Randolph to the extent that not even stud Bosco could save his ass.
Post by: CNS on March 25, 2015, 02:32:38 PM
Can Randolph play guard?Currie would drug screen the eff out of Randolph to the extent that not even stud Bosco could save his ass.
Who do you even thing bought the liquor and provided the drugs? Hopefully the football team avoided Randolf's curse.
Post by: 0.42 on March 25, 2015, 02:34:10 PM
Post by: CHONGS on March 25, 2015, 02:36:13 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 25, 2015, 02:43:29 PM
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Post by: kstate4life on March 25, 2015, 02:50:52 PM
Post by: puniraptor on March 25, 2015, 02:51:39 PM
Post by: EMAWzified on March 25, 2015, 02:54:32 PM
Smoking dope has been a huge part of our bball program for years. It didn't really become an issue until Currie stepped in as AD.This. The players on Hartman's good late 70s, early 80s teams were weed kings.
Post by: kstate4life on March 25, 2015, 02:56:18 PM
Smoking dope has been a huge part of our bball program for years. It didn't really become an issue until Currie stepped in as AD.This. The players on Hartman's good late 70s, early 80s teams were weed kings.
Also Beasley, Walker, Pullen, CK, JO... just to name a few.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 25, 2015, 02:57:15 PM
Post by: Catman2 on March 25, 2015, 03:06:39 PM
Iowa State or Texas A&M.
Where Foster plays will say a lot about his problems, like a mid-major that's desparate.
P5 coaches will know the story. Foster blew it. He didn't wet the bed, he $hit the bed. :flush:
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2015, 03:09:27 PM
Iowa State or Texas A&M.
Where Foster plays will say a lot about his problems, like a mid-major that's desparate.
P5 coaches will know the story. Foster blew it. He didn't wet the bed, he crap the bed. :flush:
This is logical IMO. If Foster ends up a P5 program (or good mid major like WSU), it makes oscar look worse. If Foster ends up at a lower tier mid major, it makes him look worse. I think that's fair.
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 25, 2015, 03:12:14 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 25, 2015, 03:21:14 PM
Post by: steve dave on March 25, 2015, 03:22:10 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2015, 03:22:15 PM
I think the best thing for him is to go somewhere that's not doing so great but has a decent coach. Most likely a decent mid-major or even say, Miami, Virginia Tech, hell even South Carolina even without the obvious connection. He could be a star much like his freshman year, or much like Hopper was when there was no other competition when he was at Maine.
Virginia tech
IIRC Buzz gave him his only other offer
Post by: SdK on March 25, 2015, 03:22:28 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2015, 03:22:55 PM
I think the best thing for him is to go somewhere that's not doing so great but has a decent coach. Most likely a decent mid-major or even say, Miami, Virginia Tech, hell even South Carolina even without the obvious connection. He could be a star much like his freshman year, or much like Hopper was when there was no other competition when he was at Maine.
Virginia tech
IIRC Buzz gave him his only other offer
That would be good for he and Buzz.
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2015, 03:23:03 PM
Iowa State or Texas A&M.
Where Foster plays will say a lot about his problems, like a mid-major that's desparate.
P5 coaches will know the story. Foster blew it. He didn't wet the bed, he $hit the bed. :flush:
Spill it! (pM Steve dave if necessary)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 25, 2015, 03:24:18 PM
I hope Marcus does well wherever he landsMe too. I'm really going to miss him. :frown:
Post by: nicname on March 25, 2015, 03:30:42 PM
Post by: CHONGS on March 25, 2015, 03:31:05 PM
Post by: pvegs on March 25, 2015, 03:33:15 PM
Post by: SdK on March 25, 2015, 03:34:28 PM
Post by: nicname on March 25, 2015, 03:35:48 PM
"high on drugs" you mean
I was referencing Fitz's comments on Wichita radio.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 25, 2015, 03:36:11 PM
Smoking in the locker room? Omg.
Spencer and Fitz have been sitting on this
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 25, 2015, 03:36:20 PM
Post by: 0.42 on March 25, 2015, 03:37:02 PM
Most of the time when a teen's personality changes dramatically it's due to drug use.
:Wha:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 25, 2015, 03:38:24 PM
Post by: nicname on March 25, 2015, 03:39:28 PM
Serious question? What % of our fanbase do you think has tried Marijuana?
30 to 40 percent.
Post by: 0.42 on March 25, 2015, 03:41:01 PM
Serious question? What % of our fanbase do you think has tried Marijuana?
whatever the gE demographic + some of BOTC adds up to
so, definitely less than 50%
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 25, 2015, 03:41:14 PM
And I bet half of those had a bad experience with it, so they think it's the devil.Serious question? What % of our fanbase do you think has tried Marijuana?
30 to 40 percent.
Post by: kstate4life on March 25, 2015, 03:45:41 PM
And I bet half of those had a bad experience with it, so they think it's the devil.Serious question? What % of our fanbase do you think has tried Marijuana?
30 to 40 percent.
It's probably more than you would think. I would say > 50%, but most won't admit it because that would be a "liberal" thing to do.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2015, 03:49:48 PM
Post by: kstate4life on March 25, 2015, 03:50:55 PM
I've read he and Malek smoking weed set off a fire alarm at Tech. Or before. Something like that.
Sounds like good times... bet smoking with Foster would be great!
Post by: sys on March 25, 2015, 04:11:16 PM
also, despite chingon's best efforts, i feel there is a reasonable opportunity to get weber gone after next year. a realistic scenario i can root for, that's all i ask.
Post by: meow meow on March 25, 2015, 04:15:02 PM
i'm glad he's leaving/getting kicked off. i never liked him. unfair and irrational, i know, but he just always rubbed me the wrong way.
also, despite chingon's best efforts, i feel there is a reasonable opportunity to get weber gone after next year. a realistic scenario i can root for, that's all i ask.
On oscar's birthday, get someone close to make him some of those brownies that have marijuana drugs in them. Top it off with ice cream, let oscar do work on that sumbitch bowl of drug brownie ice cream magic. Then, when oscar gets all good and "lit", prop Randolph on his shoulder, take a pic and post it to his twitter account. "Happy Birthday Me, getting lit in the office with my pal Randolph #YOLO" Currie would have to do something.
Post by: Catman2 on March 25, 2015, 04:30:24 PM
I hope Marcus does well wherever he lands
I do, too. The discipline and hard work that it will take to move past this mess should make Marcus Foster grow up.
Under the circumstances, maybe this is what's best for him.
Many don't get a wake up call. I'm sure Foster will want to show what he has inside.
He has something to prove. I wish him success.
Reminds me of Bryce Brown. The kid had NFL skills but didn't put in the work. In college sports that will kill the spirit of the team members that do work hard.
Snyder sent him packing.
Post by: CNS on March 25, 2015, 04:32:43 PM
I hope Marcus does well wherever he lands
I do, too. The discipline and hard work that it will take to move past this mess should make Marcus Foster grow up.
Under the circumstances, maybe this is what's best for him.
Many don't get a wake up call. I'm sure Foster will want to show what he has inside.
He has something to prove. I wish him success.
Reminds me of Bryce Brown. The kid had NFL skills but didn't put in the work. In college sports that will kill the spirit of the team members that do work hard.
Snyder sent him packing.
What is going to make oscar grow up? I mean, he wants to control his recruits and team but didn't put in the work. In college coaching, that will kill the spirit of the team.
When will JC send him packing?
Post by: Skipper44 on March 25, 2015, 04:33:01 PM
lol, noI hope Marcus does well wherever he lands
I do, too. The discipline and hard work that it will take to move past this mess should make Marcus Foster grow up.
Under the circumstances, maybe this is what's best for him.
Many don't get a wake up call. I'm sure Foster will want to show what he has inside.
He has something to prove. I wish him success.
Reminds me of Bryce Brown. The kid had NFL skills but didn't put in the work. In college sports that will kill the spirit of the team members that do work hard.
Snyder sent him packing.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2015, 04:35:19 PM
Fitz on Wichita radio saying no one liked Foster and he's not in touch with his family or AAU. Also said he's trying to declare for the NBA draft and strong inferences to being on drugs. Oh boy.
i like how it's nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing and then marcus is gone and all of the sudden tim fitzgerald has tons of information about what has been going on the five months with marcus and ksu and it all seems to paint kstate and weber in a good light and the player that's gone in a bad one.
i'm sure he's not done pumping out whatever pro ksu propoganda he's been directed to pump out. can't wait for the upcoming trash foster article or for him to be on w/ keitz sometime soon and pump some ksu sunshine.
Fitz has done this with every single player or coach that has left in a controversial manner since he landed at GPC, literally every single one. He doesn't have crap from anyone he clearly does this to drive traffic to his site, again he's done it every single time, even with Leti.
Post by: Panjandrum on March 25, 2015, 04:35:46 PM
also, despite chingon's best efforts, i feel there is a reasonable opportunity to get weber gone after next year. a realistic scenario i can root for, that's all i ask.
We all need something to hold on to, so I feel the same way.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 25, 2015, 04:36:03 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2015, 04:38:08 PM
Can Randolph play guard?Currie would drug screen the eff out of Randolph to the extent that not even stud Bosco could save his ass.
Who do you even thing bought the liquor and provided the drugs? Hopefully the football team avoided Randolf's curse.
We can safely point the finger at oscar and exonerate Currie for Randolph causing problems with the basketball team. Bazooka Joe hung out with Randolph and there's no such issues with the football team.
Post by: Skipper44 on March 25, 2015, 04:39:26 PM
Yeah, Bryce could have come back and played in the bowl game if he wanted to. Bill would have welcomed him back with open arms at any time. That is just part of what makes Bill a great coach and oscar a hack that can't hold a job.People that can't grasp that in our fan base scare me. I mean, Bill will absolutely bench someone whose talent/prep ratio isn't where he wants it to be but I don't think he has ever "dismissed" a guy that is truly talented.
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2015, 04:47:27 PM
Yeah, Bryce could have come back and played in the bowl game if he wanted to. Bill would have welcomed him back with open arms at any time. That is just part of what makes Bill a great coach and oscar a hack that can't hold a job.People that can't grasp that in our fan base scare me. I mean, Bill will absolutely bench someone whose talent/prep ratio isn't where he wants it to be but I don't think he has ever "dismissed" a guy that is truly talented.
Broderick Smith was pretty talented
Post by: Catman2 on March 25, 2015, 04:48:37 PM
lol, noI hope Marcus does well wherever he lands
I do, too. The discipline and hard work that it will take to move past this mess should make Marcus Foster grow up.
Under the circumstances, maybe this is what's best for him.
Many don't get a wake up call. I'm sure Foster will want to show what he has inside.
He has something to prove. I wish him success.
Reminds me of Bryce Brown. The kid had NFL skills but didn't put in the work. In college sports that will kill the spirit of the team members that do work hard.
Snyder sent him packing.
Uh, yes, Snyder didn't dismiss him. He just left him on the bench til he quit. Same thing. Look it up dummy. Career at KSU consisted of playing in 2 games - 4 plays. "Could have played in a bowl game". That guy is a simp, too. Wow, stupidity reigns supreme!!!
Post by: sunny_cat on March 25, 2015, 04:50:00 PM
LOOK IT UP
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2015, 04:51:12 PM
lol, noI hope Marcus does well wherever he lands
I do, too. The discipline and hard work that it will take to move past this mess should make Marcus Foster grow up.
Under the circumstances, maybe this is what's best for him.
Many don't get a wake up call. I'm sure Foster will want to show what he has inside.
He has something to prove. I wish him success.
Reminds me of Bryce Brown. The kid had NFL skills but didn't put in the work. In college sports that will kill the spirit of the team members that do work hard.
Snyder sent him packing.
Uh, yes, Snyder didn't dismiss him. He just left him on the bench til he quit. Same thing. Look it up dummy. Career at KSU consisted of playing in 2 games - 4 plays. "Could have played in a bowl game". That guy is a simp, too. Wow, stupidity reigns supreme!!!
look at catman gettin some bass in his voice
Post by: nicname on March 25, 2015, 04:55:33 PM
lol, noI hope Marcus does well wherever he lands
I do, too. The discipline and hard work that it will take to move past this mess should make Marcus Foster grow up.
Under the circumstances, maybe this is what's best for him.
Many don't get a wake up call. I'm sure Foster will want to show what he has inside.
He has something to prove. I wish him success.
Reminds me of Bryce Brown. The kid had NFL skills but didn't put in the work. In college sports that will kill the spirit of the team members that do work hard.
Snyder sent him packing.
Uh, yes, Snyder didn't dismiss him. He just left him on the bench til he quit. Same thing. Look it up dummy. Career at KSU consisted of playing in 2 games - 4 plays. "Could have played in a bowl game". That guy is a simp, too. Wow, stupidity reigns supreme!!!
look at catman gettin some bass in his voice
They used to tell me toughen up
Put some bass in your voice
Then they tell me lighten up
Put some Ma$e in your voice
Post by: CNS on March 25, 2015, 04:56:23 PM
Can Randolph play guard?Currie would drug screen the eff out of Randolph to the extent that not even stud Bosco could save his ass.
Who do you even thing bought the liquor and provided the drugs? Hopefully the football team avoided Randolf's curse.
We can safely point the finger at oscar and exonerate Currie for Randolph causing problems with the basketball team. Bazooka Joe hung out with Randolph and there's no such issues with the football team.
Hopefully this is it and it isn't just that Bill is smart enough to handle it in house.
Post by: Skipper44 on March 25, 2015, 04:58:37 PM
listen, all Bryce needed to do was string like 4 good practices together and he is getting 20 or 30 snaps. Hell, Bryce skipped the entire summer program, damn near lost the EKU game with a fumble and yet he still was playing @Miami for one reason and one reason only - he had talent.lol, noI hope Marcus does well wherever he lands
I do, too. The discipline and hard work that it will take to move past this mess should make Marcus Foster grow up.
Under the circumstances, maybe this is what's best for him.
Many don't get a wake up call. I'm sure Foster will want to show what he has inside.
He has something to prove. I wish him success.
Reminds me of Bryce Brown. The kid had NFL skills but didn't put in the work. In college sports that will kill the spirit of the team members that do work hard.
Snyder sent him packing.
Uh, yes, Snyder didn't dismiss him. He just left him on the bench til he quit. Same thing. Look it up dummy. Career at KSU consisted of playing in 2 games - 4 plays. "Could have played in a bowl game". That guy is a simp, too. Wow, stupidity reigns supreme!!!
Post by: pissclams on March 25, 2015, 05:27:19 PM
i'm guessing he's addicted and couldn't wait
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2015, 05:32:41 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2015, 05:37:13 PM
the smoke alarm rumor is awesome
i'm guessing he's addicted and couldn't wait
It's pretty amazing, I love it.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 25, 2015, 05:40:57 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2015, 05:42:19 PM
Marcus was a punk. Anyone who argues different is being naive. But oscar's job is to manage that punk so he can contribute on the team.
what made him a punk? (other than smoking so much weed at the Texas Tech locker room that he set off the fire alarm)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 25, 2015, 05:44:56 PM
Marcus was a punk. Anyone who argues different is being naive. But oscar's job is to manage that punk so he can contribute on the team.
what made him a punk? (other than smoking so much weed at the Texas Tech locker room that he set off the fire alarm)
his punk rock attitude
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 25, 2015, 05:46:34 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2015, 05:52:39 PM
It just seems like he was a kid with a serious chip on the shoulder/bad attitude. He was very talented and I wish he was staying. I'm no fan of oscar but let's not pretend Marcus didn't bring some of this on himself.
It's amazing how no one thought he had a bad attitude until about January of this year. Maybe sys did.
Post by: catzacker on March 25, 2015, 05:54:19 PM
It just seems like he was a kid with a serious chip on the shoulder/bad attitude. He was very talented and I wish he was staying. I'm no fan of oscar but let's not pretend Marcus didn't bring some of this on himself.
It's amazing how no one thought he had a bad attitude until about January of this year. Maybe sys did.
everyone thought/knew it, they just had to sit on it.
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2015, 05:54:31 PM
It just seems like he was a kid with a serious chip on the shoulder/bad attitude. He was very talented and I wish he was staying. I'm no fan of oscar but let's not pretend Marcus didn't bring some of this on himself.
It's amazing how no one thought he had a bad attitude until about January of this year. Maybe sys did.
:nono:
NOT SO FAST!!!!
BITB thinks Foster needs an attitude adjustment
Post by: renocat on March 25, 2015, 05:55:38 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2015, 05:57:27 PM
For a couple of days I was madder than hell at Weber over canning Marcus. I would go into a back room at home and cuss and gnaw on the woodwork. Now hearing more about Foster I am saying way to sic 'em oscar. I was at the doc and talked to a lady whose daughter lives below Foster. Big parties and all kinds of horse manure going on. If he was smoking weed at a game site, he has the devil weed brain. Damn lucky that I wasn't his coach. I would haveput a rocket in his wazzoo and sent him to moon. We will rise from these dark days - Wade anc Barry will make us forget Mucus, oops Marcus.
SO MUCH TO LOVE ABOUT THIS POST
Post by: Catman2 on March 25, 2015, 05:58:07 PM
The good thing is that with the team cancer gone we should be better next year!
I agree Stevesie60.
In the working world, if your workforce sees no consequences for workers with bad performance, bad behavior, breaking rules, then your respect as a leader goes down the tubes along with the performance of your good workers. The bullet has to be bitten and action taken. It's not easy, especially if you like the workers and have tried to correct the problems.
This is a defining moment. If the remaining players feel Coach oscar Weber did the right thing, then morale and teamwork should improve. If not, then...................all is lost.
Note: This about the respect of Weber by his remaining players. I already know how many of you feel.
Post by: OK_Cat on March 25, 2015, 06:03:37 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on March 25, 2015, 06:07:06 PM
the smoke alarm rumor is awesome
i'm guessing he's addicted and couldn't wait
Smoke alarms in hotels sometimes go off when you tamper with them too. :shy:
Post by: CNS on March 25, 2015, 06:11:23 PM
If Will Spradling smoked tons of marijuana cigarettes, he would have been embraced in a prayer circle until he was healedalso the fans would have demanded that a black player be kicked off the team.
Post by: 0.42 on March 25, 2015, 06:18:04 PM
For a couple of days I was madder than hell at Weber over canning Marcus. I would go into a back room at home and cuss and gnaw on the woodwork. Now hearing more about Foster I am saying way to sic 'em oscar. I was at the doc and talked to a lady whose daughter lives below Foster. Big parties and all kinds of horse manure going on. If he was smoking weed at a game site, he has the devil weed brain. Damn lucky that I wasn't his coach. I would haveput a rocket in his wazzoo and sent him to moon. We will rise from these dark days - Wade anc Barry will make us forget Mucus, oops Marcus.
SO MUCH TO LOVE ABOUT THIS POST
i think The Word should be changed to live updates of the latest renocat posts
Post by: ben ji on March 25, 2015, 06:25:17 PM
Being addicted to weed must be terrible.
Post by: chum1 on March 25, 2015, 06:29:12 PM
My cousin's GF's Brother is a team manager. He said that Marcus and Tre set off the fire alarm ON THE PLANE RIDE TO LUBBOCK.
I'd buy it.
Post by: pvegs on March 25, 2015, 06:37:54 PM
My cousin's GF's Brother is a team manager. He said that Marcus and Tre set off the fire alarm ON THE PLANE RIDE TO LUBBOCK. They were trying to "Hot Box" the bathroom or something.
Being addicted to weed must be terrible.
Where does Malek come into play in this version? Also, oscar should have oscar'd them as soon as the plan landed if that was true.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2015, 06:43:34 PM
He also said that oscar is on the hot seat.
Heard all of that in 2 minutes, and some of you rubes had to listen to Keitz for 90 minutes to get jack crap.
It's far and away the most informative and entertaining cbb podcast and one of the top 3 sports one overall that I listen to:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/cbssports.com-eye-on-college/id268800565?mt=2
http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/cbssportscom-eye-on-college-basketball-podcast
http://www.cbssports.com/podcast
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2015, 06:50:24 PM
Guys, Gary Parrish's podcast is great. Today's podcast he said that Marcus did have a family member that was causing problems but it wasn't with being in Marcus' ear but said family member was "a real pain in the ass" to the coaching staff. Gary and the other guys on the podcast also said that he likely won't get a waiver to play next year under the runoff rule but the NCAA sometimes does unpredictable stuff. K-State has to essentially vouch for Marcus for him to even have a chance
He also said that oscar is on the hot seat.
Heard all of that in 2 minutes, and some of you rubes had to listen to Keitz for 90 minutes to get jack crap.
It's far and away the most informative and entertaining cbb podcast and one of the top 3 sports one overall that I listen to:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/cbssports.com-eye-on-college/id268800565?mt=2
http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/cbssportscom-eye-on-college-basketball-podcast
http://www.cbssports.com/podcast
On who's hot seat?
Post by: Trim on March 25, 2015, 07:02:13 PM
the smoke alarm rumor is awesome
i'm guessing he's addicted and couldn't wait
Smoke alarms in hotels sometimes go off when you tamper with them too. :shy:
I'm going out by myself again. See you guys tomorrow.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2015, 07:06:25 PM
He's on the Portland Trailblazers' hot seat, they're tired of his crap.Guys, Gary Parrish's podcast is great. Today's podcast he said that Marcus did have a family member that was causing problems but it wasn't with being in Marcus' ear but said family member was "a real pain in the ass" to the coaching staff. Gary and the other guys on the podcast also said that he likely won't get a waiver to play next year under the runoff rule but the NCAA sometimes does unpredictable stuff. K-State has to essentially vouch for Marcus for him to even have a chance
He also said that oscar is on the hot seat.
Heard all of that in 2 minutes, and some of you rubes had to listen to Keitz for 90 minutes to get jack crap.
It's far and away the most informative and entertaining cbb podcast and one of the top 3 sports one overall that I listen to:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/cbssports.com-eye-on-college/id268800565?mt=2
http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/cbssportscom-eye-on-college-basketball-podcast
http://www.cbssports.com/podcast
On who's hot seat?
That added a lot to the conversation, nice work. Christ.
Post by: pissclams on March 25, 2015, 07:06:52 PM
My cousin's GF's Brother is a team manager. He said that Marcus and Tre set off the fire alarm ON THE PLANE RIDE TO LUBBOCK. They were trying to "Hot Box" the bathroom or something.he should have been made team captain immediately. the leadership that it takes to pull something like that off was just more than King DeBruce could handle.
Being addicted to weed must be terrible.
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2015, 07:07:57 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2015, 07:08:08 PM
It just seems like he was a kid with a serious chip on the shoulder/bad attitude. He was very talented and I wish he was staying. I'm no fan of oscar but let's not pretend Marcus didn't bring some of this on himself.
It's amazing how no one thought he had a bad attitude until about January of this year. Maybe sys did.
I put most of it on oscar early on, but then I reached a point where clearly Marcus was at least partially responsible. I'd even say if Marcus was really as bad as some are making it out to be, oscar should have gotten rid of him a long time ago.
But overall, oscar is proving to be a terrible manager of his roster and recruiting as now only 44% of his high school recruits are still at K-State. I mean, people bring up Frank, but he didn't have this rate and he was getting rid of (mostly) transfers. I think its worse to consistently miss on high school recruits as opposed to transfers/JUCOs.
Post by: sys on March 25, 2015, 07:11:02 PM
I think its worse to consistently miss on high school recruits as opposed to transfers/JUCOs.
ethically, i think it's much worse to run off a transfer. and martin tried to make all his juco recruits burn a rs before they got here, so they were in the same boat.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2015, 07:12:09 PM
I think its worse to consistently miss on high school recruits as opposed to transfers/JUCOs.
ethically, i think it's much worse to run off a transfer. and martin tried to make all his juco recruits burn a rs before they got here, so they were in the same boat.
I agree, I just think its worse for the program to miss on high school kids.
Post by: sys on March 25, 2015, 07:13:07 PM
Where does Malek come into play in this version? Also, oscar should have oscar'd them as soon as the plane landed if that was true.
obviously, either the wrong harris was suspended or kicked off the team. one more reason to take care of these things as they occur, before memories grow fuzzy.
Post by: CNS on March 25, 2015, 07:14:09 PM
I have only heard the Fitz bullshit.
So far, all we know is that oscar recruits kids, can't coach them, and then runs them. Even if marcus is a rough ridin' monster this is a pattern that simply getting rid of marcus doesn't resolve. If we want marcus to share blame, fine, kick him off, but that only solves one side of this equation (and it's the small side). Doing what has been done, and nothing else, just means we will see this repeat. If it doesn't repeat, it is because we have become irrelevant and recruiting is horrible.
Post by: sys on March 25, 2015, 07:14:47 PM
I just think its worse for the program to miss on high school kids.
yeah, probably. you only have to be right on a couple a year though. the real problem is that foster is the only one that it seemed like weber had gotten right.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2015, 07:15:59 PM
Has there been any actual info other than tucks guessing, about anything marcus did that we didn't already know about?
I have only heard the Fitz bullshit.
So far, all we know is that oscar recruits kids, can't coach them, and then runs them. Even if marcus is a rough ridin' monster this is a pattern that simply getting rid of marcus doesn't resolve. If we want marcus to share blame, fine, kick him off, but that only solves one side of this equation (and it's the small side). Doing what has been done, and nothing else, just means we will see this repeat. If it doesn't repeat, it is because we have become irrelevant and recruiting is horrible.
Yeah, Marcus as an isolated incident isn't as big to me. I mean, yeah, you don't want to lose your best player, but if he's truly a problem so be it. But the consistent misses on high school guys, or even recruiting guys like Orris and Jack in the first place, is a big problem.
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2015, 07:21:07 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 25, 2015, 07:23:41 PM
how little respect does oscar command from his own team that someone would even consider doing the crap alleged against marcus. NFW someone on franks team tries any of it. 90% of the elite 8 team probably got HAF on the regular but never in such dumbass circumstances.Nothing says idgaf anymore than ht boxing a team plane. :lol:
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2015, 07:25:47 PM
how do you have time to listen to multiple sports podcasts, mir?
I don't listen to the radio. I listen to sports podcasts and music that I download. Most radio shows are podcasted, like Keitzman so I don't have to listen to commercials or crap that disinterests me. I'm sitting at my desk right now answering email, making phone calls, reading this meassage board, and listening to the Fitz interview from earlier. I listen to anywhere between 2 and 6 hours of podcasts a day while working or driving.
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2015, 07:27:11 PM
Post by: sys on March 25, 2015, 07:30:56 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 25, 2015, 07:37:16 PM
tre harris probably dnp'd in three consecutive games at some point during the season, correct?Easily
Post by: kso_FAN on March 25, 2015, 07:39:48 PM
tre harris probably dnp'd in three consecutive games at some point during the season, correct?
8 actually.
Post by: sys on March 25, 2015, 07:42:00 PM
Post by: sys on March 25, 2015, 07:48:08 PM
oth, foster played in the final game. what kind of idiot program would test players after the season ended? no one would do that.
Post by: Benja on March 25, 2015, 07:54:58 PM
I can't listen to podcasts while I work and pay attention
Me neither. I would if I could.
Post by: steve dave on March 25, 2015, 08:01:28 PM
the smoke alarm rumor is awesome
i'm guessing he's addicted and couldn't wait
Smoke alarms in hotels sometimes go off when you tamper with them too. :shy:
lol
Post by: Pete on March 25, 2015, 08:20:35 PM
Unless you work in the rough ridin' entertainment biz handling talent, shut the eff up. Your " mentoring" of the claims adjustment staff does not rough ridin' apply here. Go fill out your balanced rough ridin' score card, haul in your canned goods, and pitch in on the new associate training program and shut the eff up about the entertainment business.
Post by: sunny_cat on March 25, 2015, 09:02:52 PM
So I absolutely love the "if you did that in my work place and you worked for me" talking points.
Unless you work in the rough ridin' entertainment biz handling talent, shut the eff up. Your " mentoring" of the claims adjustment staff does not rough ridin' apply here. Go fill out your balanced rough ridin' score card, haul in your canned goods, and pitch in on the new associate training program and shut the eff up about the entertainment business.
don't talk about my dad like that :frown:
Post by: Panjandrum on March 25, 2015, 10:58:49 PM
Guys, Gary Parrish's podcast is great. Today's podcast he said that Marcus did have a family member that was causing problems but it wasn't with being in Marcus' ear but said family member was "a real pain in the ass" to the coaching staff. Gary and the other guys on the podcast also said that he likely won't get a waiver to play next year under the runoff rule but the NCAA sometimes does unpredictable stuff. K-State has to essentially vouch for Marcus for him to even have a chance
He also said that oscar is on the hot seat.
Heard all of that in 2 minutes, and some of you rubes had to listen to Keitz for 90 minutes to get jack crap.
It's far and away the most informative and entertaining cbb podcast and one of the top 3 sports one overall that I listen to:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/cbssports.com-eye-on-college/id268800565?mt=2
http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/cbssportscom-eye-on-college-basketball-podcast
http://www.cbssports.com/podcast
I now know how much gold could theoretically fit in a Brinks truck, so I've got that going for me.
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 26, 2015, 01:33:15 AM
the smoke alarm rumor is awesome
i'm guessing he's addicted and couldn't wait
Smoke alarms in hotels sometimes go off when you tamper with them too. :shy:
I'm going out by myself again. See you guys tomorrow.
:lol:
Post by: felix rex on March 26, 2015, 08:11:54 AM
also, despite chingon's best efforts, i feel there is a reasonable opportunity to get weber gone after next year. a realistic scenario i can root for, that's all i ask.
This will pretty much be the only reason I watch/check scores next year.
Post by: Cire on March 26, 2015, 09:14:25 AM
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Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2015, 09:28:15 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/17326_736378719817220_8357680631374319225_n.jpg?oh=69ae26f91b3dcc69a822a7f231e01d58&oe=55AF6CAB&__gda__=1433870534_cfa46c795b901d5565b6d538c8206c0a)What a rotten kid
Post by: stunted on March 26, 2015, 09:31:57 AM
Post by: Catman2 on March 26, 2015, 09:36:57 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/17326_736378719817220_8357680631374319225_n.jpg?oh=69ae26f91b3dcc69a822a7f231e01d58&oe=55AF6CAB&__gda__=1433870534_cfa46c795b901d5565b6d538c8206c0a)What a rotten kid
Evidently, God just now came up with a plan. He should have talked to God sooner. That messsage is just sad.
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2015, 09:38:44 AM
Shut up unless you have details to share(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/17326_736378719817220_8357680631374319225_n.jpg?oh=69ae26f91b3dcc69a822a7f231e01d58&oe=55AF6CAB&__gda__=1433870534_cfa46c795b901d5565b6d538c8206c0a)What a rotten kid
Evidently, God just now came up with a plan. He should have talked to God sooner. That messsage is just sad.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 26, 2015, 09:49:00 AM
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2015, 09:49:56 AM
Post by: mocat on March 26, 2015, 09:55:04 AM
https://twitter.com/DS4ms/status/581105078821584896
and wacky only wanted one of these two saints to succeed after k-state
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2015, 09:59:24 AM
It's hard to keep track, so I need someone to tell me if Frankite Nation aka the Too Cool for Schoolers have blamed the entire situation with Foster on Weber, or does FN/TCfS lay any culpability at the feet of Foster himself?no one in the world said Foster was without blame
Thanks for clearing this up FN/TCfS friends of goEMAW Inc.
Post by: ben ji on March 26, 2015, 09:59:40 AM
PotNa? Is that saying no to pot and is mispelled?
I believe it means "Partner" as in both Marcus and Daniel were incredibly talented players who left The Kansas State University to early.
Post by: Trim on March 26, 2015, 10:03:23 AM
FN/TCfS
:love:
Post by: TownieCat on March 26, 2015, 10:09:52 AM
I think the lesson here is gE should never fall in love with one particular player unless you want him to transfer.https://twitter.com/DS4ms/status/581105078821584896
and wacky only wanted one of these two saints to succeed after k-state
Post by: kso_FAN on March 26, 2015, 10:11:53 AM
https://twitter.com/_Iwundu25/status/581109905706323968
Post by: KanSt43 on March 26, 2015, 10:19:40 AM
He quickly deleted that tweet...
Post by: catzacker on March 26, 2015, 10:47:59 AM
It's hard to keep track, so I need someone to tell me if Frankite Nation aka the Too Cool for Schoolers have blamed the entire situation with Foster on Weber, or does FN/TCfS lay any culpability at the feet of Foster himself?
Thanks for clearing this up FN/TCfS friends of goEMAW Inc.
Marcus is responsible for his actions – and he has paid the consequences for them. oscar is responsible for his team – and should pay the consequences for his team’s performance. oscar’s shot clock doesn’t get reset (or shouldn’t) because he decided to kick players off the team or have players transfer. It’s on oscar. If oscar (and those that love him) want to take credit for years 1-2, then oscar (and those that love him) have to take complete responsibility for years 3-?, without ANY excuses.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 26, 2015, 10:49:25 AM
oscar is responsible for his team – and should pay the consequences for his team’s performance. oscar’s shot clock doesn’t get reset (or shouldn’t) because he decided to kick players off the team or have players transfer. It’s on oscar. If oscar (and those that love him) want to take credit for years 1-2, then oscar (and those that love him) have to take complete responsibility for years 3-?, without ANY excuses.
The word.
Post by: steve dave on March 26, 2015, 10:50:25 AM
It's hard to keep track, so I need someone to tell me if Frankite Nation aka the Too Cool for Schoolers have blamed the entire situation with Foster on Weber, or does FN/TCfS lay any culpability at the feet of Foster himself?
Thanks for clearing this up FN/TCfS friends of goEMAW Inc.
Marcus is responsible for his actions – and he has paid the consequences for them. oscar is responsible for his team – and should pay the consequences for his team’s performance. oscar’s shot clock doesn’t get reset (or shouldn’t) because he decided to kick players off the team or have players transfer. It’s on oscar. If oscar (and those that love him) want to take credit for years 1-2, then oscar (and those that love him) have to take complete responsibility for years 3-?, without ANY excuses.
'zacker has a way with words. like, even when he's not swearing up a storm he does. but especially when he's swearing up a storm still though.
Post by: Catman2 on March 26, 2015, 11:13:00 AM
Shut up unless you have details to share(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/17326_736378719817220_8357680631374319225_n.jpg?oh=69ae26f91b3dcc69a822a7f231e01d58&oe=55AF6CAB&__gda__=1433870534_cfa46c795b901d5565b6d538c8206c0a)What a rotten kid
Evidently, God just now came up with a plan. He should have talked to God sooner. That messsage is just sad.
right back at you, Douchebag.
Post by: wetwillie on March 26, 2015, 11:14:26 AM
Shut up unless you have details to share(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/17326_736378719817220_8357680631374319225_n.jpg?oh=69ae26f91b3dcc69a822a7f231e01d58&oe=55AF6CAB&__gda__=1433870534_cfa46c795b901d5565b6d538c8206c0a)What a rotten kid
Evidently, God just now came up with a plan. He should have talked to God sooner. That messsage is just sad.
right back at you, Douchebag.
catman just went capital N Nuclear.
Post by: Pete on March 26, 2015, 11:22:07 AM
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Post by: sunny_cat on March 26, 2015, 11:29:09 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on March 26, 2015, 12:13:32 PM
Post by: steve dave on March 26, 2015, 12:14:56 PM
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Post by: meow meow on March 26, 2015, 12:17:27 PM
Post by: Catman2 on March 26, 2015, 12:41:08 PM
Is Catman2 is a name-calling bully?
Heat of the moment.
I would very much like to apologize for that error in judgement but that seems to be a sign of weakness on this board.
Post by: Catman2 on March 26, 2015, 12:51:23 PM
We cant let this kind of cancer infect the board. Look at what happened with the basketball team and those given second chances.
C'mon Wetwillie, give me another chance. Heck, testing positive under K-State's drug testing policy gives you 3 strikes.
Post by: wetwillie on March 26, 2015, 01:46:10 PM
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Post by: meow meow on March 26, 2015, 02:58:11 PM
Post by: Gooch on March 26, 2015, 03:00:25 PM
FN/TCfSGood thing I never got that ridiculous forehead tattoo like clams did. Now I got room for this masterpiece.
Post by: Trim on March 26, 2015, 03:10:58 PM
2) Who else would want this in purple? If we ordered a bunch in one shot, we could get some discounts on the price and the shipping. http://www.spreadshirt.com/too-cool-for-school-C3376A2497603
Post by: ednksu on March 26, 2015, 03:14:22 PM
Post by: nicname on March 26, 2015, 03:23:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivWY9wn5ps
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2015, 03:26:49 PM
Its a shame that we didn't send Marcus to Passages Malibu to deal with is addiction issue. But if there is one thing worse then addiction to marijuana cigarettes its jet lag.
The marijuana use probably started as means of dealing with the jet lag. I mean, the time table works.
Post by: nicname on March 26, 2015, 03:29:20 PM
Its a shame that we didn't send Marcus to Passages Malibu to deal with is addiction issue. But if there is one thing worse then addiction to marijuana cigarettes its jet lag.
The marijuana use probably started as means of dealing with the jet lag. I mean, the time table works.
Not sure how much of this was directly related to weed, but what's really a shame is that people make such a big deal out of weed, especially with regard to athletes.
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2015, 03:30:40 PM
Its a shame that we didn't send Marcus to Passages Malibu to deal with is addiction issue. But if there is one thing worse then addiction to marijuana cigarettes its jet lag.
The marijuana use probably started as means of dealing with the jet lag. I mean, the time table works.
Not sure how much of this was directly related to weed, but what's really a shame is that people make such a big deal out of weed, especially with regard to athletes.
It makes sense, though, given how it is a guaranteed path to becoming a complete loser of a person simply by inhaling it's magically evil smoke.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 26, 2015, 03:34:10 PM
Its a shame that we didn't send Marcus to Passages Malibu to deal with is addiction issue. But if there is one thing worse then addiction to marijuana cigarettes its jet lag.
The marijuana use probably started as means of dealing with the jet lag. I mean, the time table works.
Not sure how much of this was directly related to weed, but what's really a shame is that people make such a big deal out of weed, especially with regard to athletes.
I'm guessing because the league, NCAA, and school test for it. I inferred from the Catman guy that Marcus put himself in position to get caught 3 times (for suspension) and then probably got caught again (to get dismissed). Point being, its hard to get "caught" that many times. :dunno:
Post by: Trim on March 26, 2015, 03:42:02 PM
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2015, 03:44:59 PM
What's the rationale for weed being prohibited in athletics, on top of whatever laws apply to the general public? Competitive balance issue?
Dumbassery. I mean, it's illegal for them to drink until they are practically out of school based on age, but we don't test for that nationally.
Post by: nicname on March 26, 2015, 03:45:44 PM
The people I'm referring to are the league, NCAA, school and anyone else who thinks it's such a vile activity. Doesn't mean you're not right. If he got caught that many times it's definitely on him.
The reason I mentioned it was that I saw the ESPN report about the Nebraska LB who tested positive for weed at the draft combine or whatever. He puts out this pretty thoughtful apology, but who knows how much of it he believes. I'm sure he's sincere in his words and will be in his efforts to abstain, because he wants to be a successful pro, but he still might not truly believe it's a problem. If he is sincere, he's now been saddled with a cloak of guilt or remorse over something that he had to be convinced was even a problem in the first place.
Post by: nicname on March 26, 2015, 03:46:37 PM
What's the rationale for weed being prohibited in athletics, on top of whatever laws apply to the general public? Competitive balance issue?
Dumbassery. I mean, it's illegal for them to drink until they are practically out of school based on age, but we don't test for that nationally.
You convinced me earlier. No need to try to rectify the disgusting hippie behavior.
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2015, 03:49:29 PM
The people I'm referring to are the league, NCAA, school and anyone else who thinks it's such a vile activity. Doesn't mean you're not right. If he got caught that many times it's definitely on him.
The reason I mentioned it was that I saw the ESPN report about the Nebraska LB who tested positive for weed at the draft combine or whatever. He puts out this pretty thoughtful apology, but who knows how much of it he believes. I'm sure he's sincere in his words and will be in his efforts to abstain, because he wants to be a successful pro, but he still might not truly believe it's a problem. If he is sincere, he's now been saddled with a cloak of guilt or remorse over something that he had to be convinced was even a problem in the first place.
Isn't this what happened to Justin Houston? Slipped to round 3 rather than round 1 because he was caught with it a couple times in school? I think this is right. Def not going to look it up, though.
Post by: nicname on March 26, 2015, 03:53:43 PM
The people I'm referring to are the league, NCAA, school and anyone else who thinks it's such a vile activity. Doesn't mean you're not right. If he got caught that many times it's definitely on him.
The reason I mentioned it was that I saw the ESPN report about the Nebraska LB who tested positive for weed at the draft combine or whatever. He puts out this pretty thoughtful apology, but who knows how much of it he believes. I'm sure he's sincere in his words and will be in his efforts to abstain, because he wants to be a successful pro, but he still might not truly believe it's a problem. If he is sincere, he's now been saddled with a cloak of guilt or remorse over something that he had to be convinced was even a problem in the first place.
Isn't this what happened to Justin Houston? Slipped to round 3 rather than round 1 because he was caught with it a couple times in school? I think this is right. Def not going to look it up, though.
Yeah.
Post by: Skipper44 on March 26, 2015, 03:54:33 PM
I believe Houston tested positive at the combine which is pretty frowned upon because the players no its coming and can't/won't go the the 3 or 4 weeks clean even with $$$ on the line
The people I'm referring to are the league, NCAA, school and anyone else who thinks it's such a vile activity. Doesn't mean you're not right. If he got caught that many times it's definitely on him.
The reason I mentioned it was that I saw the ESPN report about the Nebraska LB who tested positive for weed at the draft combine or whatever. He puts out this pretty thoughtful apology, but who knows how much of it he believes. I'm sure he's sincere in his words and will be in his efforts to abstain, because he wants to be a successful pro, but he still might not truly believe it's a problem. If he is sincere, he's now been saddled with a cloak of guilt or remorse over something that he had to be convinced was even a problem in the first place.
Isn't this what happened to Justin Houston? Slipped to round 3 rather than round 1 because he was caught with it a couple times in school? I think this is right. Def not going to look it up, though.
Post by: nicname on March 26, 2015, 03:56:41 PM
I believe Houston tested positive at the combine which is pretty frowned upon because the players no its coming and can't/won't go the the 3 or 4 weeks clean even with $$$ on the line
The people I'm referring to are the league, NCAA, school and anyone else who thinks it's such a vile activity. Doesn't mean you're not right. If he got caught that many times it's definitely on him.
The reason I mentioned it was that I saw the ESPN report about the Nebraska LB who tested positive for weed at the draft combine or whatever. He puts out this pretty thoughtful apology, but who knows how much of it he believes. I'm sure he's sincere in his words and will be in his efforts to abstain, because he wants to be a successful pro, but he still might not truly believe it's a problem. If he is sincere, he's now been saddled with a cloak of guilt or remorse over something that he had to be convinced was even a problem in the first place.
Isn't this what happened to Justin Houston? Slipped to round 3 rather than round 1 because he was caught with it a couple times in school? I think this is right. Def not going to look it up, though.
Yeah, very similar to what _Fan said about Foster, but without all the money involved.
Post by: sys on March 26, 2015, 03:56:57 PM
I inferred from the Catman guy that Marcus put himself in position to get caught 3 times (for suspension) and then probably got caught again (to get dismissed). Point being, its hard to get "caught" that many times. :dunno:
2x for 10% suspension, 3x for permanent suspension and loss of financial aid. not sure what permanent suspension means, but it probably means dismissal.
Post by: pissclams on March 26, 2015, 03:59:29 PM
marijuana cigarettes?
a bong?
spliff?
vaporizer?
edibles?
injections?
dabs?
laced with PCP?
whichever one is the best is the one i bet he does. sad.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 26, 2015, 04:01:46 PM
I inferred from the Catman guy that Marcus put himself in position to get caught 3 times (for suspension) and then probably got caught again (to get dismissed). Point being, its hard to get "caught" that many times. :dunno:
2x for 10% suspension, 3x for permanent suspension and loss of financial aid. not sure what permanent suspension means, but it probably means dismissal.
Thanks for the correction. This would make sense for what happened. Perhaps Malek is fortunate he wasn't in the "lit" instagram pic with Marcus and Tre.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 26, 2015, 04:11:20 PM
I inferred from the Catman guy that Marcus put himself in position to get caught 3 times (for suspension) and then probably got caught again (to get dismissed). Point being, its hard to get "caught" that many times. :dunno:
2x for 10% suspension, 3x for permanent suspension and loss of financial aid. not sure what permanent suspension means, but it probably means dismissal.
Thanks for the correction. This would make sense for what happened. Perhaps Malek is fortunate he wasn't in the "lit" instagram pic with Marcus and Tre.
1) A third strike can reviewed and removed
2) Why test for a third strike, unless you are ok with the strike.
3) Players have a pretty good idea when they are going to get tested, they can get their systems flushed out.
It is just total failure.
Post by: Dub on March 26, 2015, 04:18:17 PM
Post by: sys on March 26, 2015, 04:20:38 PM
1) A third strike can reviewed and removed
2) Why test for a third strike, unless you are ok with the strike.
3) Players have a pretty good idea when they are going to get tested, they can get their systems flushed out.
i'm not entirely sure on the process, and may be missing something important, but i can only think of three possibilities.
post big 12 tourney mandatory test. foster is a complete dumbass or didn't give a eff.
postseason surprise test, weber complicit. weber wanted foster out, chose the most passive means possible.
postseason surprise test, weber not complicit. currie's a weirdo, maybe hates kstate, maybe hates weber?
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2015, 04:21:04 PM
Post by: nicname on March 26, 2015, 04:22:16 PM
1) A third strike can reviewed and removed
2) Why test for a third strike, unless you are ok with the strike.
3) Players have a pretty good idea when they are going to get tested, they can get their systems flushed out.
i'm not entirely sure on the process, and may be missing something important, but i can only think of three possibilities.
post big 12 tourney mandatory test. foster is a complete dumbass or didn't give a eff.
postseason surprise test, weber complicit. weber wanted foster out, chose the most passive means possible.
postseason surprise test, weber not complicit. currie's a weirdo, maybe hates kstate, maybe hates weber?
Did you have a good spring break, Marcus? Step into my office. Have a glass or two of water.
Post by: deputy dawg on March 26, 2015, 04:30:14 PM
1) A third strike can reviewed and removed
2) Why test for a third strike, unless you are ok with the strike.
3) Players have a pretty good idea when they are going to get tested, they can get their systems flushed out.
i'm not entirely sure on the process, and may be missing something important, but i can only think of three possibilities.
post big 12 tourney mandatory test. foster is a complete dumbass or didn't give a eff.
postseason surprise test, weber complicit. weber wanted foster out, chose the most passive means possible.
postseason surprise test, weber not complicit. currie's a weirdo, maybe hates kstate, maybe hates weber?
Hmmm...lots of drug tests are random-selected subjects only. Could be that Foster came up on the wrong side of random.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 26, 2015, 04:40:56 PM
If random is code for secretly manipulated, yes.1) A third strike can reviewed and removed
2) Why test for a third strike, unless you are ok with the strike.
3) Players have a pretty good idea when they are going to get tested, they can get their systems flushed out.
i'm not entirely sure on the process, and may be missing something important, but i can only think of three possibilities.
post big 12 tourney mandatory test. foster is a complete dumbass or didn't give a eff.
postseason surprise test, weber complicit. weber wanted foster out, chose the most passive means possible.
postseason surprise test, weber not complicit. currie's a weirdo, maybe hates kstate, maybe hates weber?
Hmmm...lots of drug tests are random-selected subjects only. Could be that Foster came up on the wrong side of random.
Post by: pissclams on March 26, 2015, 05:08:49 PM
cinnamon rolls for thought as to the leaders of young men at our university
Post by: yoman on March 26, 2015, 05:43:39 PM
What's the rationale for weed being prohibited in athletics, on top of whatever laws apply to the general public? Competitive balance issue?
Dumbassery. I mean, it's illegal for them to drink until they are practically out of school based on age, but we don't test for that nationally.
They technically do and alcohol is on the NCAA banned list (can't remember if it's only until 21 or just completely banned). It's absolutely not a big deal though because of how short alcohol is in the body. For the testing (assuming that D1 is the same as smaller schools at this point), the student athlete is told the day before their test, so essentially you just don't have to get drunk before the test and you're good. Caffeine is the same way. IMO, the only reason why drug tests are remotely effective is because of how long THC is in the body and because of how unregulated the supplement industry is (very easy to fail if you use the wrong preworkout).
Post by: nitrocat on March 26, 2015, 06:03:45 PM
What's the rationale for weed being prohibited in athletics, on top of whatever laws apply to the general public? Competitive balance issue?
Dumbassery. I mean, it's illegal for them to drink until they are practically out of school based on age, but we don't test for that nationally.
They technically do and alcohol is on the NCAA banned list (can't remember if it's only until 21 or just completely banned). It's absolutely not a big deal though because of how short alcohol is in the body. For the testing (assuming that D1 is the same as smaller schools at this point), the student athlete is told the day before their test, so essentially you just don't have to get drunk before the test and you're good. Caffeine is the same way. IMO, the only reason why drug tests are remotely effective is because of how long THC is in the body and because of how unregulated the supplement industry is (very easy to fail if you use the wrong preworkout).
Yeah, you're basically told 12 hours before. And it's during the week. To get caught for alcohol you'd literally have to go get drunk after they told you that you were being tested at 6 am the next morning. I sincerely doubt anyone is that dumb.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 26, 2015, 06:45:36 PM
Post by: nicname on March 26, 2015, 06:51:40 PM
you'd have to have pretty solid evidence to convince me that oscar didn't purposefully test them when they got back from spring break and currie was ok w/ it. technically they can appeal to currie or the pat bosco committee thing that curt kelly did. curt went w/ bosco which was the smart move because currie and his strong desire to eff frank and his players.
Kelly and his coach also wanted him to be here. Not to put words into his mouth, but all things considered, I'm wouldn't bet that Foster truly felt the same way.
Post by: yoman on March 26, 2015, 06:57:58 PM
you'd have to have pretty solid evidence to convince me that oscar didn't purposefully test them when they got back from spring break and currie was ok w/ it. technically they can appeal to currie or the pat bosco committee thing that curt kelly did. curt went w/ bosco which was the smart move because currie and his strong desire to eff frank and his players.
Kelly and his coach also wanted him to be here. Not to put words into his mouth, but all things considered, I'm wouldn't bet that Foster truly felt the same way.
Both of these make sense, and are frustrating if true. Especially considering Weber isn't stupid; he knows that Foster has the potential to be our best in a year that was make or break for him. This scenario would suggest that he is trying to hit a reset button for more time. Unfortunately, we may give it to him. Oddly, Marcus is somewhat a winner for getting away from this, but his name has taken a huge hit, in part due to Weber.
Post by: chum1 on March 26, 2015, 07:16:56 PM
This scenario would suggest that he is trying to hit a reset button for more time.
This is the most realistic scenario, for sure. oscar is sitting around, thinking, "It's an established fact that I can't win with my own players. So, if I want to keep my job, I'm going to have to scheme the yokels. What's the best way to do that? Bust players for drugs and then boot them from the team. I just need to do it before goEMAW blows my cover."
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2015, 07:46:09 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 26, 2015, 07:47:47 PM
If it was drugs, why not just say it was for drugs? (This is not a oscar specific question, it's just that the speculation is probably worse than reality.)
I thought they would be violating student privacy or something
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2015, 07:51:01 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2015, 07:56:32 PM
NopeIf it was drugs, why not just say it was for drugs? (This is not a oscar specific question, it's just that the speculation is probably worse than reality.)
I thought they would be violating student privacy or something
http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2014/4/25/5652446/mitch-mcgary-marijuana-suspension-nba-draft-2014
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2015, 07:56:56 PM
It seems to be an unwritten rule to not eff someone on their way out the door. Speculation is better than definitely having a drug issue when it comes to getting on another team, imo.Is it?
Post by: Winters on March 26, 2015, 08:03:04 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on March 26, 2015, 08:03:36 PM
Post by: ednksu on March 26, 2015, 08:07:02 PM
Its a shame that we didn't send Marcus to Passages Malibu to deal with is addiction issue. But if there is one thing worse then addiction to marijuana cigarettes its jet lag.
The marijuana use probably started as means of dealing with the jet lag. I mean, the time table works.
Not sure how much of this was directly related to weed, but what's really a shame is that people make such a big deal out of weed, especially with regard to athletes.
It makes sense, though, given how it is a guaranteed path to becoming a complete loser of a person simply by inhaling it's magically evil smoke.
Joking aside, everyone* knows weed laws are ridiculous. The fact is though its rough ridin' stupid to sacrifice your scholarship for your Saturday night proclivities.
*by everyone I mean people with common sense who haven't bought into the bullshit (somewhat racist) drug enforcement policies of the country or who aren't blatant hypocrites about what they did in college, probably under age drinking, which in moderation is just as bad as weed.
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2015, 08:07:28 PM
Generally, I think it is. How many times do you hear how shitty of a job a coach did from their AD? Also, I feel like we would hear a lot more about transfers than "for personal reasons" or "to be closer to family".It seems to be an unwritten rule to not eff someone on their way out the door. Speculation is better than definitely having a drug issue when it comes to getting on another team, imo.Is it?
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2015, 08:19:39 PM
Generally, I think it is. How many times do you hear how shitty of a job a coach did from their AD? Also, I feel like we would hear a lot more about transfers than "for personal reasons" or "to be closer to family".It seems to be an unwritten rule to not eff someone on their way out the door. Speculation is better than definitely having a drug issue when it comes to getting on another team, imo.Is it?
Then why not just say all three players wanted to transfer? Why announce he was kicked off?
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2015, 08:22:06 PM
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 26, 2015, 08:26:10 PM
:'bye cruel world:
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2015, 08:32:26 PM
oscar worried about face, I would guess. It plays out differently if you report you kicked off your best player rather he is transferring. It's a power thing, imo. One looks like you have the control and able to make tough decisions. The other looks like you are a loser and ppl are bailing. Perception is super important.In that case, announcing you're kicking him off the team for substance abuse rather than lazyness or some other unknown makes everyone look better. I mean, most coaches would probably deal with weed rather than an FP, TC, etc. And oscar doesn't look bad because every college coach in history had had to deal with weed use on the team.
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2015, 08:34:34 PM
Post by: sunny_cat on March 26, 2015, 08:41:07 PM
http://www.thesalutepodcast.com/the-power-of-a-question-mark/
:'bye cruel world:
:bang:
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on March 26, 2015, 08:42:21 PM
Post by: j-dub on March 26, 2015, 08:55:21 PM
http://www.thesalutepodcast.com/the-power-of-a-question-mark/
:'bye cruel world:
:bang:
what did these dumbasses say
Post by: sunny_cat on March 26, 2015, 08:57:31 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 26, 2015, 09:05:37 PM
oscar worried about face, I would guess. It plays out differently if you report you kicked off your best player rather he is transferring. It's a power thing, imo. One looks like you have the control and able to make tough decisions. The other looks like you are a loser and ppl are bailing. Perception is super important.In that case, announcing you're kicking him off the team for substance abuse rather than lazyness or some other unknown makes everyone look better. I mean, most coaches would probably deal with weed rather than an FP, TC, etc. And oscar doesn't look bad because every college coach in history had had to deal with weed use on the team.
i'm not really sure that publicly announcing that you are kicking multiple players off of your team for substance abuse makes you or them look better. maybe you are substance abusing? drugs?
Post by: nicname on March 26, 2015, 09:08:47 PM
http://www.thesalutepodcast.com/the-power-of-a-question-mark/
:'bye cruel world:
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Nope.
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2015, 09:10:52 PM
It makes them both look better!oscar worried about face, I would guess. It plays out differently if you report you kicked off your best player rather he is transferring. It's a power thing, imo. One looks like you have the control and able to make tough decisions. The other looks like you are a loser and ppl are bailing. Perception is super important.In that case, announcing you're kicking him off the team for substance abuse rather than lazyness or some other unknown makes everyone look better. I mean, most coaches would probably deal with weed rather than an FP, TC, etc. And oscar doesn't look bad because every college coach in history had had to deal with weed use on the team.
i'm not really sure that publicly announcing that you are kicking multiple players off of your team for substance abuse makes you or them look better. maybe you are substance abusing? drugs?
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 26, 2015, 09:18:23 PM
It makes them both look better!oscar worried about face, I would guess. It plays out differently if you report you kicked off your best player rather he is transferring. It's a power thing, imo. One looks like you have the control and able to make tough decisions. The other looks like you are a loser and ppl are bailing. Perception is super important.In that case, announcing you're kicking him off the team for substance abuse rather than lazyness or some other unknown makes everyone look better. I mean, most coaches would probably deal with weed rather than an FP, TC, etc. And oscar doesn't look bad because every college coach in history had had to deal with weed use on the team.
i'm not really sure that publicly announcing that you are kicking multiple players off of your team for substance abuse makes you or them look better. maybe you are substance abusing? drugs?
i'm not sure oscar telling kstaters that "drugs" are rampant in his program is a great look for him. better to let kk and fitz cast vague shade. plus you aren't factoring in how much of a passive aggressive bitch oscar is.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2015, 09:22:08 PM
NopeIf it was drugs, why not just say it was for drugs? (This is not a oscar specific question, it's just that the speculation is probably worse than reality.)
I thought they would be violating student privacy or something
http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2014/4/25/5652446/mitch-mcgary-marijuana-suspension-nba-draft-2014
Neither the NCAA nor Michigan released that McGary tested positive for marijuana. There are federal laws preventing universities from doing so, not sure about the NCAA. Anyway the McGary leak was from either his people or an NBA scout or executive hee interviewed with.
I'm not sure why we're talking so much about weed tests though because it is highly unlikely he was tested since the season ended.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 26, 2015, 09:25:03 PM
NopeIf it was drugs, why not just say it was for drugs? (This is not a oscar specific question, it's just that the speculation is probably worse than reality.)
I thought they would be violating student privacy or something
http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2014/4/25/5652446/mitch-mcgary-marijuana-suspension-nba-draft-2014
Neither the NCAA nor Michigan released that McGary tested positive for marijuana. There are federal laws preventing universities from doing so, not sure about the NCAA. Anyway the McGary leak was from either his people or an NBA scout or executive hee interviewed with.
I'm not sure why we're talking so much about weed tests though because it is highly unlikely he was tested since the season ended.
i mean i think that too kind of, but him and tre and that tweet and then they are gone right after they get back? plus stan said he thought the tweet was the final straw or something. i mean man. seems very possible.
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2015, 09:26:43 PM
AhNopeIf it was drugs, why not just say it was for drugs? (This is not a oscar specific question, it's just that the speculation is probably worse than reality.)
I thought they would be violating student privacy or something
http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2014/4/25/5652446/mitch-mcgary-marijuana-suspension-nba-draft-2014
Neither the NCAA nor Michigan released that McGary tested positive for marijuana. There are federal laws preventing universities from doing so, not sure about the NCAA. Anyway the McGary leak was from either his people or an NBA scout or executive hee interviewed with.
I'm not sure why we're talking so much about weed tests though because it is highly unlikely he was tested since the season ended.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2015, 09:28:25 PM
NopeIf it was drugs, why not just say it was for drugs? (This is not a oscar specific question, it's just that the speculation is probably worse than reality.)
I thought they would be violating student privacy or something
http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2014/4/25/5652446/mitch-mcgary-marijuana-suspension-nba-draft-2014
Neither the NCAA nor Michigan released that McGary tested positive for marijuana. There are federal laws preventing universities from doing so, not sure about the NCAA. Anyway the McGary leak was from either his people or an NBA scout or executive hee interviewed with.
I'm not sure why we're talking so much about weed tests though because it is highly unlikely he was tested since the season ended.
i mean i think that too kind of, but him and tre and that tweet and then they are gone right after they get back? plus stan said he thought the tweet was the final straw or something. i mean man. seems very possible.
Yeah, I think they canned him because of the tweet without a test.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 26, 2015, 09:33:36 PM
NopeIf it was drugs, why not just say it was for drugs? (This is not a oscar specific question, it's just that the speculation is probably worse than reality.)
I thought they would be violating student privacy or something
http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2014/4/25/5652446/mitch-mcgary-marijuana-suspension-nba-draft-2014
Neither the NCAA nor Michigan released that McGary tested positive for marijuana. There are federal laws preventing universities from doing so, not sure about the NCAA. Anyway the McGary leak was from either his people or an NBA scout or executive hee interviewed with.
I'm not sure why we're talking so much about weed tests though because it is highly unlikely he was tested since the season ended.
i mean i think that too kind of, but him and tre and that tweet and then they are gone right after they get back? plus stan said he thought the tweet was the final straw or something. i mean man. seems very possible.
Yeah, I think they canned him because of the tweet without a test.
ok. i'll take your guess over mine on this. still what kind of coach is just waiting for a reason to do this? seems weird. i mean a rough ridin' tweet of two guys on a beach and that's your final straw. jesus. make them run two thousand stairs or quit. be an adult and coach a team.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2015, 09:38:30 PM
NopeIf it was drugs, why not just say it was for drugs? (This is not a oscar specific question, it's just that the speculation is probably worse than reality.)
I thought they would be violating student privacy or something
http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2014/4/25/5652446/mitch-mcgary-marijuana-suspension-nba-draft-2014
Neither the NCAA nor Michigan released that McGary tested positive for marijuana. There are federal laws preventing universities from doing so, not sure about the NCAA. Anyway the McGary leak was from either his people or an NBA scout or executive hee interviewed with.
I'm not sure why we're talking so much about weed tests though because it is highly unlikely he was tested since the season ended.
i mean i think that too kind of, but him and tre and that tweet and then they are gone right after they get back? plus stan said he thought the tweet was the final straw or something. i mean man. seems very possible.
Yeah, I think they canned him because of the tweet without a test.
ok. i'll take your guess over mine on this. still what kind of coach is just waiting for a reason to do this? seems weird. i mean a rough ridin' tweet of two guys on a beach and that's your final straw. jesus. make them run two thousand stairs or quit. be an adult and coach a team.
Bless oscar for sending a message. :whistle1:
Also it's fair to assume that Marcus got a last chance warning of some sort, no?
Post by: wetwillie on March 26, 2015, 09:40:06 PM
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2015, 09:41:43 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 26, 2015, 09:48:48 PM
Jevon finds out he is off the team via Twitter , gets reinstated for the big12 tourney, transfers. Lol.
he didn't go to padre for spring break.
"kansas state university...where you can lose your scholarship for going to padre and taking a picture of yourself with a bird and a friend"
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2015, 09:49:54 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 26, 2015, 09:50:35 PM
Jevon finds out he is off the team via Twitter , gets reinstated for the big12 tourney, transfers. Lol.
he didn't go to padre for spring break.
"kansas state university...where you can lose your scholarship for going to padre and taking a picture of yourself with a bird and a friend"
Is the bird some kind of weird metaphor you cooked up?
Post by: Trim on March 26, 2015, 09:52:19 PM
Dumb to be OK with them going on spring break but then being mad that they drank, smoked, went on a beach, handled a fake lizard, tweet'd pics of it or any combination thereof. That's the spring break itinerary.
Post by: puniraptor on March 26, 2015, 09:52:31 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 26, 2015, 09:54:56 PM
Jevon finds out he is off the team via Twitter , gets reinstated for the big12 tourney, transfers. Lol.
he didn't go to padre for spring break.
"kansas state university...where you can lose your scholarship for going to padre and taking a picture of yourself with a bird and a friend"
Is the bird some kind of weird metaphor you cooked up?
bird=lizard. i'm pretty fostered right now.
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2015, 09:56:10 PM
Post by: puniraptor on March 26, 2015, 09:59:28 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 26, 2015, 11:19:36 PM
Jevon finds out he is off the team via Twitter , gets reinstated for the big12 tourney, transfers. Lol.
he didn't go to padre for spring break.
"kansas state university...where you can lose your scholarship for going to padre and taking a picture of yourself with a bird and a friend"
Jevon went to Padre
Post by: Catman2 on March 26, 2015, 11:34:53 PM
And what about Malek Harris, he got the same 3 game penalty and wasn't booted. If anyone knows suspension, it is Malek. In high school he was suspended his entire senior basketball season. The infraction/ infractions were never revealed. And Weber still took him. So, it looks like Weber is open to 2nd chances. It is probably the 3rd or 4th where he draws the line.
Post by: slobber on March 27, 2015, 01:06:51 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: Cire on March 27, 2015, 06:44:05 AM
Post by: felix rex on March 27, 2015, 07:15:01 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 27, 2015, 08:24:18 AM
NopeIf it was drugs, why not just say it was for drugs? (This is not a oscar specific question, it's just that the speculation is probably worse than reality.)
I thought they would be violating student privacy or something
http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2014/4/25/5652446/mitch-mcgary-marijuana-suspension-nba-draft-2014
Neither the NCAA nor Michigan released that McGary tested positive for marijuana. There are federal laws preventing universities from doing so, not sure about the NCAA. Anyway the McGary leak was from either his people or an NBA scout or executive hee interviewed with.
I'm not sure why we're talking so much about weed tests though because it is highly unlikely he was tested since the season ended.
i mean i think that too kind of, but him and tre and that tweet and then they are gone right after they get back? plus stan said he thought the tweet was the final straw or something. i mean man. seems very possible.
Yeah, I think they canned him because of the tweet without a test.
ok. i'll take your guess over mine on this. still what kind of coach is just waiting for a reason to do this? seems weird. i mean a rough ridin' tweet of two guys on a beach and that's your final straw. jesus. make them run two thousand stairs or quit. be an adult and coach a team.
new information alert. i will now take my guess over yours.
Post by: steve dave on March 27, 2015, 08:25:28 AM
Post by: steve dave on March 27, 2015, 08:30:10 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 27, 2015, 08:35:42 AM
Post by: steve dave on March 27, 2015, 08:37:39 AM
Currie is going to start creeping around aggie ville in a trench coat and sunglasses
I bet he grabs every single black guy by the shoulder and says YOUR ASS IS MINE before they turn around and it's like some asian kid who he doesn't know and he gets beer spit in his face over and over.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 27, 2015, 08:40:49 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 27, 2015, 08:46:35 AM
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nine times...
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Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 27, 2015, 10:03:02 AM
Remember when everyone crap on WackyCat08 for saying foster shouldn't send that tweet
I was going to eat crow and apologize, but then I remembered what a dickhead Wacky was on the basketball board a couple nights ago.
Post by: SdK on March 27, 2015, 10:14:07 AM
Remember when everyone crap on WackyCat08 for saying foster shouldn't send that tweet
I remember the time. MJ style
Post by: mocat on March 27, 2015, 10:28:22 AM
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2015, 10:32:30 AM
everyone made fun of wacky for saying the whataburger was booze
Did he actually say it was booze? or lean?
Post by: MakeItRain on March 27, 2015, 10:57:32 AM
NopeIf it was drugs, why not just say it was for drugs? (This is not a oscar specific question, it's just that the speculation is probably worse than reality.)
I thought they would be violating student privacy or something
http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2014/4/25/5652446/mitch-mcgary-marijuana-suspension-nba-draft-2014
Neither the NCAA nor Michigan released that McGary tested positive for marijuana. There are federal laws preventing universities from doing so, not sure about the NCAA. Anyway the McGary leak was from either his people or an NBA scout or executive hee interviewed with.
I'm not sure why we're talking so much about weed tests though because it is highly unlikely he was tested since the season ended.
i mean i think that too kind of, but him and tre and that tweet and then they are gone right after they get back? plus stan said he thought the tweet was the final straw or something. i mean man. seems very possible.
Yeah, I think they canned him because of the tweet without a test.
ok. i'll take your guess over mine on this. still what kind of coach is just waiting for a reason to do this? seems weird. i mean a rough ridin' tweet of two guys on a beach and that's your final straw. jesus. make them run two thousand stairs or quit. be an adult and coach a team.
new information alert. i will now take my guess over yours.
rough ridin' ruthless to drug test him two weeks after the season ended and days after returning from spring break. They could have dismissed him without the test.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 27, 2015, 11:02:09 AM
Remember when everyone crap on WackyCat08 for saying foster shouldn't send that tweet
I was going to eat crow and apologize, but then I remembered what a dickhead Wacky was on the basketball board a couple nights ago.
Wait, were there people dismissing the possibility that there was more than soda in that cup? I think even now all we know is that was a whataburger cup, not sure anyone that made fun of the wackster contended otherwise.
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 27, 2015, 11:05:07 AM
Remember when everyone crap on WackyCat08 for saying foster shouldn't send that tweet
I was going to eat crow and apologize, but then I remembered what a dickhead Wacky was on the basketball board a couple nights ago.
Wait, were there people dismissing the possibility that there was more than soda in that cup? I think even now all we know is that was a whataburger cup, not sure anyone that made fun of the wackster contended otherwise.
Yeah, I don't think anyone said otherwise, but in retrospect it wasn't a great idea to send that tweet.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 27, 2015, 11:08:40 AM
Remember when everyone crap on WackyCat08 for saying foster shouldn't send that tweet
I was going to eat crow and apologize, but then I remembered what a dickhead Wacky was on the basketball board a couple nights ago.
Wait, were there people dismissing the possibility that there was more than soda in that cup? I think even now all we know is that was a whataburger cup, not sure anyone that made fun of the wackster contended otherwise.
Yeah, I don't think anyone said otherwise, but in retrospect it wasn't a great idea to send that tweet.
Maybe the harshest consequence of typing the word lit in the history of the world?
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 27, 2015, 11:10:49 AM
Remember when everyone crap on WackyCat08 for saying foster shouldn't send that tweet
I was going to eat crow and apologize, but then I remembered what a dickhead Wacky was on the basketball board a couple nights ago.
Wait, were there people dismissing the possibility that there was more than soda in that cup? I think even now all we know is that was a whataburger cup, not sure anyone that made fun of the wackster contended otherwise.
Yeah, I don't think anyone said otherwise, but in retrospect it wasn't a great idea to send that tweet.
Maybe the harshest consequence of typing the word lit in the history of the world?
I really won't miss JC's heavy handedness. I've got mixed feelings about the job he's doing, but I'm 100% sure he's a dick.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 27, 2015, 11:12:42 AM
Post by: Skipper44 on March 27, 2015, 11:13:49 AM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 27, 2015, 11:14:29 AM
Post by: Trim on March 27, 2015, 11:19:24 AM
Post by: mocat on March 27, 2015, 11:23:50 AM
everyone made fun of wacky for saying the whataburger was booze
Did he actually say it was booze? or lean?
say what now
Post by: steve dave on March 27, 2015, 11:24:44 AM
Post by: slobber on March 27, 2015, 11:39:17 AM
Damnit!!! This crap is important for real. I'm at a 5.4 and climbing and u can't read 5 pages to catch up. Foster is a stud. If you disagree and need to tell me about it, start a new thread and I can ignore it.wtf? I am at the airport feeling like sd did last week on his way back from Vegas. I open gE to this crap. I hope there aren't any others.
Gonna win 'em all!
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: slobber on March 27, 2015, 11:52:20 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 27, 2015, 11:53:03 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 27, 2015, 11:55:45 AM
:lol:I want those Big 12 shades. Also, our guys tweeting out pics w/ drinks in their hand who aren't 21. :facepalm:UMMM who gives a crap
Post by: 'taterblast on March 27, 2015, 11:57:14 AM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 27, 2015, 11:57:52 AM
I did get a lot of "old man" comments for suggesting the tweet wasn't a good idea. @kslim went really heavy too. I really don't care tho. I think it's funny now. Also, sorry ksupamp. You did call me a dumbass several times the other night.
Didn't call you a dumbass. Apology accepted though.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 27, 2015, 11:58:19 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 27, 2015, 11:59:34 AM
#blessed :lol:you cannot be serious. its spring break and the kids are in collegeThe athletic department. :dunno:I want those Big 12 shades. Also, our guys tweeting out pics w/ drinks in their hand who aren't 21. :facepalm:UMMM who gives a crap
Post by: MakeItRain on March 27, 2015, 12:00:26 PM
:lol:I want those Big 12 shades. Also, our guys tweeting out pics w/ drinks in their hand who aren't 21. :facepalm:UMMM who gives a crap
This is splitting hairs but he's still right. As I pointed out to you that whataburger cup didn't get those guys in trouble. Lit did.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 27, 2015, 12:01:08 PM
I still think it's hilarious that Wacky thought there was something wrong with tweeting out a picture of an athlete holding a What-a-Burger cup.The lit part was more of it than the cup, but yes, I definitely assumed.
Post by: 0.42 on March 27, 2015, 01:13:00 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 27, 2015, 01:26:57 PM
Is there any other athletic department in the Big 12 that would act like ours in this situation? TCU maybe?
i don't think there is another p5 school that would've done what we just did, but it's hard to say whether it was the school or oscar that ordered the code red.
Post by: mhkpasa on March 27, 2015, 01:29:21 PM
Marcus is his own worst enemy
:thumbs: :thumbs: please tell me whyyyyyyyyy
Post by: renocat on March 27, 2015, 11:06:12 PM
Post by: dal9 on March 31, 2015, 11:53:52 AM
Espn rates him literally worse than a rapist! Also Number 3 best overall.
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 31, 2015, 12:01:23 PM
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2015, 12:15:08 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 31, 2015, 12:24:58 PM
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2015, 12:28:18 PM
Foster is going to SMU and you guys all know it.
While no one would be surprised if he did, no one should be surprised if he doesn't, either. He should have plenty of options and I have no idea what SMU's scholarship situation is like.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 31, 2015, 12:39:49 PM
Yeah, good point.Foster is going to SMU and you guys all know it.
While no one would be surprised if he did, no one should be surprised if he doesn't, either. He should have plenty of options and I have no idea what SMU's scholarship situation is like.
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on March 31, 2015, 01:09:46 PM
Foster is going to SMU and you guys all know it.
While no one would be surprised if he did, no one should be surprised if he doesn't, either. He should have plenty of options and I have no idea what SMU's scholarship situation is like.
SMU is very :kstategrad:
Their scholly sitch is a moot point.
:dubious:
Post by: Panjandrum on March 31, 2015, 01:26:53 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 01:29:13 PM
In western Kansas we give chocolate jackrabbits. Marcus would have done better if Shane would have been here.
We? You're not from western Kansas
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 31, 2015, 01:32:04 PM
Post by: 0.42 on March 31, 2015, 01:38:09 PM
MU has reached out to Foster.
:sdeek:
Post by: Panjandrum on March 31, 2015, 01:38:54 PM
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on March 31, 2015, 01:42:50 PM
Having Foster at off guard and Semi on the wing is downright scary.
Not to mention very convenient for me to make the drive to Moody to see our boy Marcus scorch the nets again...
:emawkid:
Post by: CNS on March 31, 2015, 02:09:05 PM
MU has reached out to Foster.
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!O!!O!O!!!!!!
Post by: bones129 on March 31, 2015, 02:13:09 PM
:runaway:
Post by: #LIFE on March 31, 2015, 02:35:53 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2015, 02:42:31 PM
Post by: CNS on March 31, 2015, 02:46:31 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 31, 2015, 02:52:30 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on March 31, 2015, 02:54:32 PM
I think there's a "no crap head rule". Similar to why DGB had to sit out.i know you are just wc8'n here but please don't compare what happened to Marcus to what a real life DB like DGB did.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 31, 2015, 02:55:49 PM
Yeah, I'm not, but if there was a "cause", then I think they make you sit.I think there's a "no crap head rule". Similar to why DGB had to sit out.i know you are just wc8'n here but please don't compare what happened to Marcus to what a real life DB like DGB did.
Post by: Skipper44 on March 31, 2015, 02:57:09 PM
The so called run off rule has been modified, he's likely going to have to sit.i actually read an official NCAA release and I took it more an elimination of the "hardship" appeal process (dying grandma, etc). Did the NCAA just apply the hardship appeal as an answer to oversigning and coaching changes or was there an actual "run off" rule?
Post by: CNS on March 31, 2015, 03:00:01 PM
Post by: Catchacold on April 13, 2015, 11:15:13 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 13, 2015, 11:24:21 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on April 13, 2015, 11:29:44 AM
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2015, 11:31:18 AM
Creighton would be disappointing
They were his other finalist with us, so it makes sense.
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2015, 11:33:25 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 13, 2015, 11:34:12 AM
Post by: TownieCat on April 13, 2015, 11:37:09 AM
He made that crazy dunk against Gonzaga and now they want him soooo bad. :love:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bleacherreport.net%2Fsocial_assets%2Fcbb%2F12_21_2013%2Fdavid%2520stockton%2520poster.gif&hash=e47f60f3a347320c280eba3cada25c41fd8738e6)
:love:
Post by: mocat on April 13, 2015, 12:29:28 PM
Post by: kslim on April 13, 2015, 12:48:51 PM
that gif is very :frown:nope, shane is in it
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 13, 2015, 01:15:12 PM
I wonder how are relationship stands with the Dallas Mustangs.
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2015, 01:16:37 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 13, 2015, 01:19:34 PM
Post by: 8manpick on April 13, 2015, 01:45:23 PM
Creighton has to be the favorite to land him. I would be surprised if he commits to them after the weekend.Why?
I wonder how are relationship stands with the Dallas Mustangs.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 13, 2015, 01:50:33 PM
Creighton has to be the favorite to land him. I would be surprised if he commits to them after the weekend.Why?
I wonder how are relationship stands with the Dallas Mustangs.
First visit, recruited him the first round.
Post by: DOD Take 2 on April 13, 2015, 01:51:49 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 13, 2015, 02:27:35 PM
Post by: CNS on April 13, 2015, 02:37:24 PM
Post by: dal9 on April 13, 2015, 06:18:06 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 13, 2015, 11:10:32 PM
I am going to assume that if he goes to Creighton, not only did Zags, LSU, and Cincy all take a pass, but so did every other P5 school.
Pretty rough ridin' weird assumption, do you watch college basketball? Creighton is a better program than half of the Big 12, half of the Big 10, and 8/10 of the Pac 12 and the SEC. Cinci is in the AA and Creighton is a better than every program in that conference but one. It would suck playing in front of 17,000 fans every night and competing for conference championships in a program producing NBA draft picks.
Post by: 1863 on April 14, 2015, 12:33:34 AM
I am going to assume that if he goes to Creighton, not only did Zags, LSU, and Cincy all take a pass, but so did every other P5 school.
Pretty rough ridin' weird assumption, do you watch college basketball? Creighton is a better program than half of the Big 12, half of the Big 10, and 8/10 of the Pac 12 and the SEC. Cinci is in the AA and Creighton is a better than every program in that conference but one. It would suck playing in front of 17,000 fans every night and competing for conference championships in a program producing NBA draft picks.
Its still Creighton.
Post by: Dirty Mike on April 14, 2015, 07:28:20 AM
I am going to assume that if he goes to Creighton, not only did Zags, LSU, and Cincy all take a pass, but so did every other P5 school.
Pretty rough ridin' weird assumption, do you watch college basketball? Creighton is a better program than half of the Big 12, half of the Big 10, and 8/10 of the Pac 12 and the SEC. Cinci is in the AA and Creighton is a better than every program in that conference but one. It would suck playing in front of 17,000 fans every night and competing for conference championships in a program producing NBA draft picks.
Where are you getting your information from? Creighton has produced 4 NBA draft picks in the last 15 years. Both Cincy and LSU have produced more. Creighton also now plays in the Big East, and were completely exposed now that Dougie McBuckets graduated to the NBA. (14-19 I think) They have a great fan base in Omaha, but many fair weather fans who were used to seeing their team dominate in the Missouri Valley. I can't argue with better program (McDermott is a pretty darn good coach) but the situation there now is not good.
Post by: 8manpick on April 14, 2015, 08:17:21 AM
MIR makes some decent points, but I think the round goes to 1863I am going to assume that if he goes to Creighton, not only did Zags, LSU, and Cincy all take a pass, but so did every other P5 school.
Pretty rough ridin' weird assumption, do you watch college basketball? Creighton is a better program than half of the Big 12, half of the Big 10, and 8/10 of the Pac 12 and the SEC. Cinci is in the AA and Creighton is a better than every program in that conference but one. It would suck playing in front of 17,000 fans every night and competing for conference championships in a program producing NBA draft picks.
Its still Creighton.
Post by: TownieCat on April 14, 2015, 08:30:44 AM
Post by: TownieCat on April 14, 2015, 08:55:33 AM
Quote
3. Marcus Foster, Kansas State -- The undersized 2-guard came out of nowhere and had a terrific freshman season (15.5 ppg) for oscar Weber, but this past year was a roller coaster -- with more downs than ups. Foster was benched and suspended -- but he can still help a team with his ability to score. He averaged 12.5 points this past season.
Considering: Creighton, Gonzaga, Cincinnati, LSU
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff-goodman/insider/post/_/id/4899/top-10-transfers-and-complete-transfer-list (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff-goodman/insider/post/_/id/4899/top-10-transfers-and-complete-transfer-list)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 14, 2015, 09:30:28 AM
Quote3. Marcus Foster, Kansas State -- The undersized 2-guard came out of nowhere and had a terrific freshman season (15.5 ppg) for oscar Weber, but this past year was a roller coaster -- with more downs than ups. Foster was benched and suspended -- but he can still help a team with his ability to score. He averaged 12.5 points this past season.
Considering: Creighton, Gonzaga, Cincinnati, LSU
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff-goodman/insider/post/_/id/4899/top-10-transfers-and-complete-transfer-list (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff-goodman/insider/post/_/id/4899/top-10-transfers-and-complete-transfer-list)
:curse: CURRIE!!!!!
Post by: MakeItRain on April 14, 2015, 12:05:38 PM
I am going to assume that if he goes to Creighton, not only did Zags, LSU, and Cincy all take a pass, but so did every other P5 school.
Pretty rough ridin' weird assumption, do you watch college basketball? Creighton is a better program than half of the Big 12, half of the Big 10, and 8/10 of the Pac 12 and the SEC. Cinci is in the AA and Creighton is a better than every program in that conference but one. It would suck playing in front of 17,000 fans every night and competing for conference championships in a program producing NBA draft picks.
Where are you getting your information from? Creighton has produced 4 NBA draft picks in the last 15 years. Both Cincy and LSU have produced more. Creighton also now plays in the Big East, and were completely exposed now that Dougie McBuckets graduated to the NBA. (14-19 I think) They have a great fan base in Omaha, but many fair weather fans who were used to seeing their team dominate in the Missouri Valley. I can't argue with better program (McDermott is a pretty darn good coach) but the situation there now is not good.
You do realize that nothing you typed disproved anything in my post right? I didn't say a damn thing about what school produced more NBA picks.
There are worse places that Marcus could end up, but out of that list Creighton is the weakest program. Nice try, MIR.
Sure if we're going the "hur hur Omaha hur hur" otherwise Creighton is inarguably better in every other way. The only one of those programs that has won more recently is Gonzaga but Creighton plays in a bigger, nicer arena in front of nearly 3 times as many fans, yes three damn times. Creighton is also in a better conference and in a better city than Creighton. They are both private Jesuit schools. One was sought after to join the Big East the other begged in and was mushed. I literally can't think of one thing that makes Cincinnati and LSU better than Creighton. crap LSU doesn't even play in a better basketball conference, the Big East has 4 less teams yet managed to get more bids than the SEC, and it's not like that's some freakish anomaly, the Big East is unquestionably a deeper league.
I feel like you guys are either trolling or are really stupid
Post by: TownieCat on April 14, 2015, 12:17:32 PM
I am going to assume that if he goes to Creighton, not only did Zags, LSU, and Cincy all take a pass, but so did every other P5 school.
Pretty rough ridin' weird assumption, do you watch college basketball? Creighton is a better program than half of the Big 12, half of the Big 10, and 8/10 of the Pac 12 and the SEC. Cinci is in the AA and Creighton is a better than every program in that conference but one. It would suck playing in front of 17,000 fans every night and competing for conference championships in a program producing NBA draft picks.
Where are you getting your information from? Creighton has produced 4 NBA draft picks in the last 15 years. Both Cincy and LSU have produced more. Creighton also now plays in the Big East, and were completely exposed now that Dougie McBuckets graduated to the NBA. (14-19 I think) They have a great fan base in Omaha, but many fair weather fans who were used to seeing their team dominate in the Missouri Valley. I can't argue with better program (McDermott is a pretty darn good coach) but the situation there now is not good.
You do realize that nothing you typed disproved anything in my post right? I didn't say a damn thing about what school produced more NBA picks.There are worse places that Marcus could end up, but out of that list Creighton is the weakest program. Nice try, MIR.
Sure if we're going the "hur hur Omaha hur hur" otherwise Creighton is inarguably better in every other way. The only one of those programs that has won more recently is Gonzaga but Creighton plays in a bigger, nicer arena in front of nearly 3 times as many fans, yes three damn times. Creighton is also in a better conference and in a better city than Creighton. They are both private Jesuit schools. One was sought after to join the Big East the other begged in and was mushed. I literally can't think of one thing that makes Cincinnati and LSU better than Creighton. crap LSU doesn't even play in a better basketball conference, the Big East has 4 less teams yet managed to get more bids than the SEC, and it's not like that's some freakish anomaly, the Big East is unquestionably a deeper league.
I feel like you guys are either trolling or are really stupid
This has nothing to do with Omaha and everything to do with where each of those 4 basketball programs stand today. LSU, Cincy, and Gonzaga are all coming off of tourney appearances, play a majority of their games on ESPN, and have a richer history of success to lean on. Go ahead and argue about how Creighton plays on FS1 in front of a full house of hayseeds every night while getting pounded by Georgetown and Villanova.
Creighton hasn't been to the Sweet 16 since the 70s, and if you take out regional 3rd place games they've never won multiple games in a tournament ever. Weak.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 14, 2015, 12:37:05 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on April 14, 2015, 12:43:11 PM
Post by: Trim on April 14, 2015, 12:48:25 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on April 14, 2015, 12:57:01 PM
Post by: ednksu on April 14, 2015, 01:02:50 PM
Sure if we're going the "hur hur Omaha hur hur" otherwise Creighton is inarguably better in every other way. The only one of those programs that has won more recently is Gonzaga but Creighton plays in a bigger, nicer arena in front of nearly 3 times as many fans, yes three damn times. Creighton is also in a better conference and in a better city than Creighton. They are both private Jesuit schools. One was sought after to join the Big East the other begged in and was mushed. I literally can't think of one thing that makes Cincinnati and LSU better than Creighton. crap LSU doesn't even play in a better basketball conference, the Big East has 4 less teams yet managed to get more bids than the SEC, and it's not like that's some freakish anomaly, the Big East is unquestionably a deeper league.:D
I feel like you guys are either trolling or are really stupid
Post by: nicname on April 14, 2015, 01:15:19 PM
Post by: CNS on April 14, 2015, 01:16:47 PM
I'm not bullish on Creighton's future under McNeck. Altman had mondo success there, but it easily could've been a case of him being a good/ the right coach at the right time.
As MIR noted, diff conference.
Post by: kso_FAN on April 14, 2015, 01:21:48 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 14, 2015, 01:26:49 PM
Guys LSU finished 11-7 in the super hard SEC, lost 3 of their last four to juggernauts names Tennessee, Auburn, and NC State, but they're a kick ass program because they made the tournament for the first time in six seasons. Celebrate good times, come on!!!
Post by: ChiComCat on April 14, 2015, 01:30:22 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 14, 2015, 01:31:21 PM
1. Gonzaga
2. Cinci
3. LSU
4. Creighton
I mean, if you project what these teams are bringing in and where they were last year, I feel like that's hard to argue. I don't care how good Creighton was when they had their coaches son. All these programs would be a good fit for him tho.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 14, 2015, 01:36:44 PM
Zags are head and shoulders above the rest.
For a kid from Texas that previously played in the Big 12? I'd put them last. The other schools have landed players similar to Marcus, Gonzaga hasn't. They either don't recruit or don't land players like him.
Post by: nicname on April 14, 2015, 01:41:28 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 14, 2015, 01:47:41 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on April 14, 2015, 02:10:46 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/22/sports/ncaabasketball/recruits-from-across-the-globe-find-a-melting-pot-in-gonzaga.html?_r=0
Post by: MakeItRain on April 14, 2015, 02:27:32 PM
Gonzaga has players transfer in all the time. Just in the last couple of years Eric McClellan (booted from Vandy), Kyle Wiltjer (from Kentucky), Byron Wesley (from USC), and Angel Nunez (from Louisville) have transfered to the Zags.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/22/sports/ncaabasketball/recruits-from-across-the-globe-find-a-melting-pot-in-gonzaga.html?_r=0
I know they have players transfer in, when I mentioned recruiting I was discussing high school recruits. Getting transfers actually fits what they do quite well because I don't think they get a player like Marcus out of high school, they are great at the open box specials.
Post by: Mr Bread on April 14, 2015, 03:46:17 PM
Gonzaga has players transfer in all the time. Just in the last couple of years Eric McClellan (booted from Vandy), Kyle Wiltjer (from Kentucky), Byron Wesley (from USC), and Angel Nunez (from Louisville) have transfered to the Zags.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/22/sports/ncaabasketball/recruits-from-across-the-globe-find-a-melting-pot-in-gonzaga.html?_r=0
I know they have players transfer in, when I mentioned recruiting I was discussing high school recruits. Getting transfers actually fits what they do quite well because I don't think they get a player like Marcus out of high school, they are great at the open box specials.
http://247sports.com/Player/Josh-Perkins-22245 (http://247sports.com/Player/Josh-Perkins-22245)
Post by: Mr Bread on April 14, 2015, 03:47:55 PM
Just so I'm clear here, now the measurement, as of this particular argument apparently, of what a better basketball program is what national network your conference has a media deal with (for the record ESPN and ESPN2 are in 97 million homes, FS1 is in 90 million homes, and ESPNU and the SEC Network are in 75 million each; so it's not like were talking about the difference between ESPN and Root Sports Pittsburgh here), how much money your athletic department has but the amount of resources used for basketball is irrelevant, and whether or not you made the tournament this year without regard to what you have done the previous decade.
Guys LSU finished 11-7 in the super hard SEC, lost 3 of their last four to juggernauts names Tennessee, Auburn, and NC State, but they're a kick ass program because they made the tournament for the first time in six seasons. Celebrate good times, come on!!!
LSU has the #1 recruit in the nation coming in next year. That's pretty good. Like better than Creighton good.
Post by: Mr Bread on April 14, 2015, 03:50:06 PM
Gonzaga has players transfer in all the time. Just in the last couple of years Eric McClellan (booted from Vandy), Kyle Wiltjer (from Kentucky), Byron Wesley (from USC), and Angel Nunez (from Louisville) have transfered to the Zags.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/22/sports/ncaabasketball/recruits-from-across-the-globe-find-a-melting-pot-in-gonzaga.html?_r=0
I know they have players transfer in, when I mentioned recruiting I was discussing high school recruits. Getting transfers actually fits what they do quite well because I don't think they get a player like Marcus out of high school, they are great at the open box specials.
http://247sports.com/Player/Josh-Perkins-22245 (http://247sports.com/Player/Josh-Perkins-22245)
http://sports.yahoo.com/latech/basketball/recruiting/player-Austin-Daye-47870 (http://sports.yahoo.com/latech/basketball/recruiting/player-Austin-Daye-47870)
:eek:
Post by: wazucat on April 14, 2015, 03:59:27 PM
I think all of the speculated destinations could be good for Marcus, hope he finds a home that he can have a great finish to his career.
Post by: Winters on April 14, 2015, 05:55:10 PM
Post by: CNS on April 14, 2015, 06:15:29 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 14, 2015, 09:43:39 PM
Just so I'm clear here, now the measurement, as of this particular argument apparently, of what a better basketball program is what national network your conference has a media deal with (for the record ESPN and ESPN2 are in 97 million homes, FS1 is in 90 million homes, and ESPNU and the SEC Network are in 75 million each; so it's not like were talking about the difference between ESPN and Root Sports Pittsburgh here), how much money your athletic department has but the amount of resources used for basketball is irrelevant, and whether or not you made the tournament this year without regard to what you have done the previous decade.
Guys LSU finished 11-7 in the super hard SEC, lost 3 of their last four to juggernauts names Tennessee, Auburn, and NC State, but they're a kick ass program because they made the tournament for the first time in six seasons. Celebrate good times, come on!!!
LSU has the #1 recruit in the nation coming in next year. That's pretty good. Like better than Creighton good.
And? I don't think I ever said anything about LSU and their ability to get recruits with relation to Creighton did I? Certainly you aren't contending LSU is a better program because they got a better signing class?
Post by: wetwillie on April 14, 2015, 09:46:54 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 14, 2015, 09:50:57 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 14, 2015, 09:54:55 PM
Isnt mcneck a slightly fatter version of oscar? I cant imagine wanting to play for that guy.
They're both white. I don't know much about the dude other than he was crap at ISU, good at Creighton, now possibly crap again. There are lots of crap coaches can't think of another I'd compare to oscar oscar.
Post by: Panjandrum on April 14, 2015, 10:25:31 PM
Post by: RickRampus on April 14, 2015, 10:31:30 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 14, 2015, 10:42:46 PM
#teamzaga
Same. If he gets immediate eligibility, which he won't, Gonzaga will be preseason top 5 with returning Karnowski and Sabonis
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 14, 2015, 10:46:40 PM
Post by: TownieCat on April 15, 2015, 10:19:36 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2015, 10:21:31 AM
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Post by: kso_FAN on April 15, 2015, 10:34:05 AM
He will have a better chance of being THE star at Creighton.
Post by: That_Guy on April 15, 2015, 11:12:25 AM
He will be on a more successful team if he goes to Gonzaga.
He will have a better chance of being THE star at Creighton.
Bet he goes to Creighton.
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Post by: MakeItRain on April 16, 2015, 11:05:13 AM
If Marcus has to sit out a year (which he will) Gonzaga will have a completely different team in 16-17 than what they had this year. Pangos and Bell graduated, and Karnowski and Wiltjer are juniors. If Sabonis has another good year he will likely go to the draft after his soph year.
sigh
Post by: star seed 7 on April 16, 2015, 09:23:20 PM
If Marcus has to sit out a year (which he will) Gonzaga will have a completely different team in 16-17 than what they had this year. Pangos and Bell graduated, and Karnowski and Wiltjer are juniors. If Sabonis has another good year he will likely go to the draft after his soph year.
sigh
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Post by: joda on April 19, 2015, 03:38:51 PM
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Post by: wetwillie on April 19, 2015, 04:15:09 PM
Post by: uncle clean jeans on April 19, 2015, 06:02:26 PM
Post by: CNS on April 19, 2015, 06:54:35 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 19, 2015, 07:11:44 PM
Woof. For him, for us, for everyone involved except Creighton.
So dumb
Post by: Reboulet on April 19, 2015, 08:35:24 PM
Post by: TownieCat on April 19, 2015, 09:11:20 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on April 19, 2015, 09:16:20 PM
Post by: The Big Train on April 19, 2015, 09:17:31 PM
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on April 20, 2015, 10:15:18 AM
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Originally posted by Purplesage74:
I don't care either. If your a true kstater then Foster no longer exists
interesting, if true.
Post by: felix rex on April 20, 2015, 12:16:06 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 20, 2015, 12:58:20 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 20, 2015, 01:55:48 PM
https://twitter.com/michaeldeangelo/status/551506897954557953
Post by: kitten_mittons on April 20, 2015, 02:41:43 PM
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Foster bragged in caption that the pair was "lit on the beach.'' The term "lit" often is used to describe intoxication.
Post by: dal9 on April 20, 2015, 05:50:27 PM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 26, 2016, 06:25:55 PM
:sdeek:
Post by: michigancat on February 26, 2016, 06:57:39 PM
"Really? oscar Weber is the reason why Marcus Foster turned into an absolute animal?" - Raygun:opcat:
:sdeek:
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 26, 2016, 08:40:07 PM
Post by: pvegs on February 26, 2016, 09:46:23 PM
Post by: Trim on February 26, 2016, 10:19:07 PM
it's ok guys bc brent "didn't realize it" and "sorry if you feel that way"
You've been doing some fine work over there lately.
Post by: steve dave on February 26, 2016, 10:24:20 PM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 26, 2016, 10:41:18 PM
Post by: pvegs on February 27, 2016, 09:08:21 AM
it's ok guys bc brent "didn't realize it" and "sorry if you feel that way"
You've been doing some fine work over there lately.
thx trim. i choose my spots. honest question: how does one get banned from gpc? it occurred to me i might be in danger despite my infrequent posting.
Post by: steve dave on February 27, 2016, 09:19:02 AM
it's ok guys bc brent "didn't realize it" and "sorry if you feel that way"
You've been doing some fine work over there lately.
thx trim. i choose my spots. honest question: how does one get banned from gpc? it occurred to me i might be in danger despite my infrequent posting.
be steve dave
Post by: CNS on February 27, 2016, 09:38:13 AM
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Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 29, 2016, 04:00:23 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on July 01, 2016, 04:37:00 PM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/748966559805210624
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 01, 2016, 04:39:10 PM
what's the opposite of BISCUITS
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/748966559805210624
Hard boiled eggs
Post by: mocat on July 01, 2016, 05:16:53 PM
Post by: steve dave on July 01, 2016, 05:31:22 PM
Post by: sys on July 01, 2016, 05:42:45 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 01, 2016, 06:06:25 PM
at thanksgiving last year, my littlest said she was most thankful for greg mcdermott saving marcus foster's life.
Heartwarming stories like this make me wish I had children. You are a fine father, sys.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 01, 2016, 09:15:12 PM
Post by: The Big Train on July 02, 2016, 09:52:41 AM
Post by: ksupamplemousse on July 03, 2016, 03:42:42 PM
Post by: steve dave on July 03, 2016, 06:12:29 PM
It's not surprising to me that other schools have players that are in better shape. I think it's been obvious for awhile that our S&C program is probably the worst in the conference.
Well, our recently departed S&C guy had other things on his mind
Post by: BMWWcat on July 23, 2016, 01:18:09 PM
Please elaborate?It's not surprising to me that other schools have players that are in better shape. I think it's been obvious for awhile that our S&C program is probably the worst in the conference.
Well, our recently departed S&C guy had other things on his mind
Post by: steve dave on July 23, 2016, 03:02:53 PM
Please elaborate?It's not surprising to me that other schools have players that are in better shape. I think it's been obvious for awhile that our S&C program is probably the worst in the conference.
Well, our recently departed S&C guy had other things on his mind
can't
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 23, 2016, 06:00:29 PM
Post by: The Big Train on July 23, 2016, 06:19:37 PM
Post by: wetwillie on July 23, 2016, 06:30:09 PM
Post by: sys on July 23, 2016, 07:10:31 PM
I hope that's not true. Very penn state if we just hush hushed it.
it's not the sort of thing you parade around, though is it?
Post by: CNS on July 23, 2016, 07:18:00 PM
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Post by: The Big Train on July 23, 2016, 07:27:27 PM
Post by: sys on July 23, 2016, 07:29:40 PM
It's the thing you turn a guy in for, though. I mean, ask subway.
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that guy did stuff tho, he wasn't just a consumer of media.
Post by: CNS on July 23, 2016, 07:32:19 PM
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Post by: sys on July 23, 2016, 07:42:19 PM
i guess it could have been reported and if evidence wasn't sufficient to charge, it just never surfaced in the media.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 25, 2016, 10:21:54 AM
https://twitter.com/kstatestrength
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 25, 2016, 10:24:01 AM
Post by: Trim on July 25, 2016, 10:44:26 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 25, 2016, 12:19:34 PM
Post by: #LIFE on November 01, 2016, 12:52:04 PM
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I'm not sure how I feel about this, but I'm sure we'll be following Foster's season out of curiosity and "what if's". My inclination is to not wish him well (I know that's petty), but he did some damage to our program, and I'm also an extreme KSU loyalist. Granted, we probably wouldn't have some of our current players had Foster stayed, but his behavior and the affect he had on our last two seasons still stings. What do all of you think. Is this all water under the bridge?
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I hope Marcus is able to stay straight. Coach McDermott is not someone to get crosswise with. He is one large hombre with a short fuse for stupidity.
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I hope the young man matures enough to become a successful and proper citizen on and off the court. I won't, however, be in his cheering section.
While here, he said he really wanted to go to KU, but they didn't come calling. Because of this, he said he really wanted to beat them. I thought it was poor taste for him to admit he wanted to be elsewhere. That might be the case for many recruits, but most refrain from stating it to the press. Weber went after him when many others passed and gave him a shot in a power conference. It paid off big time for Marcus as he gained national attention and an invite to Lebron Jame's camp. After the privilege afforded him by K-State, he decided to loaf and party his second year.
This action, by a star, set our program back, but let me emphasize the real damage done here. Thomas and Nino had to suffer through a senior year without partaking in a post season tournament. These hard working players deserved better than that. Nino was playing on knees that were damaged over his four year stint. Thomas slimmed down and worked his butt off to become a force underneath. For their hard work, they had to watch an underclassmen undermine their effort.
As stated, I hope Marcus learns from his mistakes and finds success. I just won't be standing in his cheering section.
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I won't pay any attention to what Foster does, don't have the time or energy to care. I did find it funny earlier this fall when Foster tweeted how cool it was that he had skipped class only to find out later that the class had been canceled, which drew a return from McDermott about why he skipped in the first place. Didn't sound like he had figured it out at that point.
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I would bet a large amount that Foster will be a cancer no matter where he goes. I think the only chance for Foster would be if something happens that would make him hit rock bottom. I don't think he's there yet. I do hope that he figures things out...but I wouldn't bet that it ever happens. A few of us saw him scrimmaging with the team after he had been dismissed...and I for one wasn't impressed. I wouldn't have let him in the gym.
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- The dunk against Gonzaga in Wichita
- The game winner against OU
- His last game for KSU in The Sprint Center
I cannot remember a student athlete that went from that level of play to horrible
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If there was ever a kid who needed to get rid of social media, it's him.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 01, 2016, 12:56:03 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 01, 2016, 12:57:42 PM
Post by: michigancat on November 01, 2016, 12:59:06 PM
I've always disliked creighton because their fans are all football only HUSKGUYs. but now I will like them a lot.
I've also had a strong dislike for McNeck, but go Blue Jays now. 100%.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 01, 2016, 04:44:22 PM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 01, 2016, 05:02:35 PM
Post by: pissclams on November 01, 2016, 05:12:16 PM
but not at all surprised by our idiot shitfuck hayseed fanbase being mean to marcus
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 01, 2016, 08:05:09 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 01, 2016, 08:16:05 PM
If it weren't for Foster, Underwood and Frank, I'd have no reason to follow CBB this year. Well that and hoping everything bad for the Cats so Oscar gets the boot.That's extremely dumb. Who roots against their alumni? You can root for the players and ignore oscar in the process. I'm sure you're supper jazzed for a Martin NIT run tho! :excited:
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 01, 2016, 10:43:10 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 01, 2016, 10:51:19 PM
Screw that. There's just too much about Oscar that annoys the crap out of me with losing being but one. The only relief is severing him ASAP from Manhattan, Kansas. Coincidentally, that's also the best thing for the K-State BB program.But you look forward to watching shitty Frank teams at South Carolina? That's what will get you through another season of basketball? :confused:
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 02, 2016, 12:24:34 AM
Post by: Trim on November 02, 2016, 12:38:50 AM
Marcus playing post-season basketball in Bramlage would be a lot of fun, though.
A ridiculous scenario but imagine if it was understood in advance that oscar needed at least a win in the first round of the nit, and it was swaggy and the bluejays coming to the fOOD. Marcus would break ski's record.
Post by: bones129 on November 02, 2016, 01:48:52 AM
Marcus playing post-season basketball in Bramlage would be a lot of fun, though.
A ridiculous scenario but imagine if it was understood in advance that oscar needed at least a win in the first round of the nit, and it was swaggy and the bluejays coming to the fOOD. Marcus would break ski's record.
I support Trim's message.
Post by: Skipper44 on November 02, 2016, 10:57:03 AM
what flag would you be flying?Marcus playing post-season basketball in Bramlage would be a lot of fun, though.
A ridiculous scenario but imagine if it was understood in advance that oscar needed at least a win in the first round of the nit, and it was swaggy and the bluejays coming to the fOOD. Marcus would break ski's record.
Post by: Trim on November 02, 2016, 11:05:34 AM
what flag would you be flying?Marcus playing post-season basketball in Bramlage would be a lot of fun, though.
A ridiculous scenario but imagine if it was understood in advance that oscar needed at least a win in the first round of the nit, and it was swaggy and the bluejays coming to the fOOD. Marcus would break ski's record.
There's a couple bars here that have all the sports channels and would be cool w/putting it on for us. But it's an absurd premise. Obviously oscar gets a raise an extension if he can get these 'cats picked to finish 9th in the conference into postseason play, and with a home game at that.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 02, 2016, 03:09:12 PM