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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: 420seriouscat69 on November 05, 2013, 09:42:18 PM
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Listen guys, I TSC for a living, but facts are facts. Andrew Wiggins aka lebron 2.0 aka Wilt the Stilt 2nd coming of Jesus, is only averaging 13 ppg vs D2 schools from Kansas. :frown: What if Self ruins another one?
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OK, first off, Wiggins is our guy and a complete stud.
BUT, if you were going to do an analysis of how well every consensus #1 player did in his first two games, Wiggins numbers would probably be the worst ever. However, that does NOT matter to us,because A) we love him, B) his teammates are rough ridin' dicks, and C) wait until conference time, bros.
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our guy is a total stud iyam :don'tcare:
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i think our guy will land on his feet, like the true cat he is.
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really left his mark tonight, despite limited minutes. lets just say I'm not on the fence :tsc:
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OK, first off, Wiggins is our guy and a complete stud.
BUT, if you were going to do an analysis of how well every consensus #1 player did in his first two games, Wiggins numbers would probably be the worst ever. However, that does NOT matter to us,because A) we love him, B) his teammates are rough ridin' dicks, and C) wait until conference time, bros.
Oh, I agree. It just worries me, you know? He's totally our guy, but I think Sprads put up bigger numbers his first two games. I mean...
:sdeek:
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At least he is eligible, that thug From UCLA couldn't even do that.
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OK, first off, Wiggins is our guy and a complete stud.
BUT, if you were going to do an analysis of how well every consensus #1 player did in his first two games, Wiggins numbers would probably be the worst ever. However, that does NOT matter to us,because A) we love him, B) his teammates are rough ridin' dicks, and C) wait until conference time, bros.
Oh, I agree. It just worries me, you know? He's totally our guy, but I think Sprads put up bigger numbers his first two games. I mean...
:sdeek:
exhibition games....don't matter.
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OK, first off, Wiggins is our guy and a complete stud.
BUT, if you were going to do an analysis of how well every consensus #1 player did in his first two games, Wiggins numbers would probably be the worst ever. However, that does NOT matter to us,because A) we love him, B) his teammates are rough ridin' dicks, and C) wait until conference time, bros.
Oh, I agree. It just worries me, you know? He's totally our guy, but I think Sprads put up bigger numbers his first two games. I mean...
:sdeek:
exhibition games....don't matter.
Welp... there we have it folks. Thank god!
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Yes, huge relief. Can't wait until the exhibition execution exceptions are over so that he can start playing the way we all know he can.
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Has Self even instilled any of the offensive sets yet?
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This is like complaining about the star QB's stats when he played one quarter in pre-season NFL games. Sure Self is more concerned about vetting out the back end of the rotation with Duke around the corner. Pretty obvious with the minutes distribution. Maybe he should have made it the Wiggins show to get him on ESPN more, but I'm not sure Wiggins needs that. It was pretty clear that when he wanted to, Andrew could do whatever he wanted out there. That's what I took from the game. That, and we are very, very deep with talent and Mason is going to be a heck of a player for us for several years.
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our guy is probably waiting for a regular non-con game to show off his skills in front of a much larger audience (gym crowd + tv crowd)
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I did a search of my FB feed. ZERO Wiggins mentions since the first game. Before? Dozens. They're poised to run on our guy already. :shakesfist:
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OK, first off, Wiggins is our guy and a complete stud.
BUT, if you were going to do an analysis of how well every consensus #1 player did in his first two games, Wiggins numbers would probably be the worst ever. However, that does NOT matter to us,because A) we love him, B) his teammates are rough ridin' dicks, and C) wait until conference time, bros.
Oh, I agree. It just worries me, you know? He's totally our guy, but I think Sprads put up bigger numbers his first two games. I mean...
:sdeek:
exhibition games....don't matter.
Agreed. He's not even trying yet...
Friday will be the first glimpse at the 30/12 Wiggins should average on the season
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I expect wiggins to put up huge numbers! BIGGER than Beasley did.
Beasley was surrounded by a cast of stud professional basketball players that took away some of his #s.
Wiggins has a cast of guys that are going to go pro in something else.
He is going to have to carry this team which means he will have some up and downs throughout the season..
but just like all cats he will always land on his feet.
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Guys haven't seen the games, but is Self still a nervous wreck in games like these?
Maybe not so much now, but when he first got to ku and a few games early in the season against inferior opponents (the kind that Roy's teams would just murder) were much closer than expected. Self would look like he was about to toss his Salty Iguana lunch on the sidelines, probably knowing the outright demand for style points (I mean think about it, there were phogtucks openly questioning if Self was the guy back then).
But yeah, I'm all in for #teamwiggins-give him the ball!!
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Has Self even instilled any of the offensive sets yet?
With "Andy and the Blue Chips", you don't need offensive sets... You just roll the ball out there and let 'em play.
Also, that hair. I'm as TSC as the next guy, but surely he can do something about that unkept 'fro with all the money they're paying him. Amirite?
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What if your face is a bust(ed)? :shakesfist:
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I just don't see any way he could possibly be a bust, especially when one considers all the hoops talent that has been developed in Canada over the years...
The list of Canadians to play in the NBA is a veritable "Who's WHO!?!?" as they hope that somebody comes along to supplant Nash as the greatest Canadian ever.
http://www.tsn.ca/nba/feature/?id=554418022.html
Outside of Nash, I recognized exactly TWO names that I could put a face with and maybe another 2-3 that "sounded familiar".
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OK, first off, Wiggins is our guy and a complete stud.
BUT, if you were going to do an analysis of how well every consensus #1 player did in his first two games, Wiggins numbers would probably be the worst ever. However, that does NOT matter to us,because A) we love him, B) his teammates are rough ridin' dicks, and C) wait until conference time, bros.
Oh, I agree. It just worries me, you know? He's totally our guy, but I think Sprads put up bigger numbers his first two games. I mean...
:sdeek:
exhibition games....don't matter.
Hey how's that football bet going?
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The only thing that can stop Andrew Wiggins is Bill Self.
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So what is it exactly that has your panties in a bunch?
that KU got the #1 player in the class?
that even when you had your "best year ever" KU was still better?
that this years ksu team couldn't beat some YMCA teams?
that not only the local media, but the national media is all over Wiggins?
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So what is it exactly that has your panties in a bunch?
that KU got the #1 player in the class?
that even when you had your "best year ever" KU was still better?
that this years ksu team couldn't beat some YMCA teams?
that not only the local media, but the national media is all over Wiggins?
We're just worried for him. We don't need another Selby result. He's only averaging 13 ppg against NAIA schools. :frown:
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#1 players in the country are never busts that attend blue bloods schools. Just look at John Wall and Austin Rivers, they turned out fine. Our guy will be ok, unless Self decides he wants to keep him there for another year, which I think he already has decided he wants too. :frown:
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So what is it exactly that has your panties in a bunch?
that ku got the #1 player in the class?
that even when you had your "best year ever" ku was still better?
that this years KSU team couldn't beat some YMCA teams?
that not only the local media, but the national media is all over Wiggins?
Perhaps your reading comprehension isn't strong, but I think Wacky has a valid point. We want this Canadian prodigy to succeed as much as the next guy, however at this point there is some legitimate concern that maybe he won't average 35 & 20 as we've been led to believe...
At what point is he considered a bust? 30 & 15? 25 & 10? That's where the concern lies as we want him to have tremendous success to make the entire state of Kansas look better in the eyes of the nation.
With all of the media attention on what appears to be a Jordan/LeBron cyborg type athlete, I'd think that anything short of an undefeated national championship season would have to be considered something of a disappointment.
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Wiggins the individual is quite a bit bigger than the KU program right now. I can see why Bill might get jealous
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It must really suck to be a kstate fan. I feel bad for you guys.
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It must really suck to be a kstate fan. I feel bad for you guys.
Winning a 3MAW last year and getting the number 1 basketball player in the country is hardly something to be sad about.
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Never Forget
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Rumor out of Lawrence is the Celtics organization has been in talks with Self about how he's been mistreating our guy Andrew. They said they didn't tank this season to get Parker, Smart or Randle, they tanked it to get Wiggins and only Wiggins. They knew about Self's plan to make Wiggins look so awful that he needs to stay another year and obviously, were not happy about it. I assume they offered Self a cash incentive, but obviously my source wouldn't speak about that.
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Folks, we, as #teamwiggins need to include him in our prayer circles, so that he can escape the plight of an oppressor trying to keep him down.
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It must really suck to be a K-State fan. I feel bad for you guys.
Don't feel bad. As hard as it's been to have to take over as the largest and flagship institution in Kansas, while relinquishing our title of "Futility U" on the gridiron, we'll be ok.
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Guys, what if we don't get an NCAA title and a #1 draft pick? I can't take that kind of disappointment. :goodbyecruelworld:
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Guys, I've been doing some analysis, and I think you'll find the results shocking. Both Selby and Henry were worse college players than both Jake Pullen and Kim English. It's time someone in the Lawrentucky media start asking Bill Self the hard questions: "Bill, why do you ruin the best recuits?" "Bill, why can't your ego let others succeed?" "Bill, what did these kids do to you?" "Bill, you realize your wealth comes off the backs of these talents?" "Bill, what do you recommend at Salty Iguana?"
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Guys, I've been doing some analysis, and I think you'll find the results shocking. Both Selby and Henry were worse college players than both Jake Pullen and Kim English. It's time someone in the Lawrentucky media start asking Bill Self the hard questions: "Bill, why do you ruin the best recuits?" "Bill, why can't your ego let others succeed?" "Bill, what did these kids do to you?" "Bill, you realize your wealth comes off the backs of these talents?" "Bill, what do you recommend at Salty Iguana?"
The Prairie Village burrito
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Then he'll play a second or third year at Kansas? :dunno:
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Guys, I've been doing some analysis, and I think you'll find the results shocking. Both Selby and Henry were worse college players than both Jake Pullen and Kim English. It's time someone in the Lawrentucky media start asking Bill Self the hard questions: "Bill, why do you ruin the best recuits?" "Bill, why can't your ego let others succeed?" "Bill, what did these kids do to you?" "Bill, you realize your wealth comes off the backs of these talents?" "Bill, what do you recommend at Salty Iguana?"
I'd love it if I could get a "non-coach speak" answer on this very important question.
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:frown:
BANNER TIME!
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Wiggins the individual is quite a bit bigger than the KU program right now. I can see why Bill might get jealous
610 was having this exact discussion this morning. Said that they spoke with Bill and he had said that the team has received all the pub of the national magazines with Andy on the front and how the marketing has been so huge and yet KU hasn't even had to spend a dime for any of it. So, for those keeping score(Bill) Andy comes on campus and KU is thrown all the attention it could want, where Bill has to actually rely on a marketing budget that KU uses to pay ppl to pay attention to Bill.
Look, Bill may be able to shrug that off for a while, but there is a point where he won't be able to. Question is, how long until then. I am guessing it is only a few more 10pt games before Bill snaps and starts talking about how Andy isn't KU and how KU is bigger than any one player. Which we all know that the idea that Ku is bigger than the single best college BB player ever is just ridic. This program is Andy right now. Andy is this program.
I fear for Andy.
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Then he'll play a second or third year at Kansas? :dunno:
Um no. You obviously don't care about Wiggins. The longer he's there, the more time Lawrence can push their booze and drugs on him. Rinse and repeat.
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Wiggins knows Bill's game. He has already said in multiple interviews that he is just trying to make the most of his last year at school. The kid sounds somewhat sad when he says that too. Sounds like Bill is wearing on him and between Bill's monstering and the general danger that the city of Lawrence presents to a talented youngster, he may be concerned about his ability to actually enjoy it. :dunno:
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Wiggins knows Bill's game. He has already said in multiple interviews that he is just trying to make the most of his last year at school. The kid sounds somewhat sad when he says that too. Sounds like Bill is wearing on him and between Bill's monstering and the general danger that the city of Lawrence presents to a talented youngster, he may be concerned about his ability to actually enjoy it. :dunno:
Can we get a list of possible barbs/verbal cheap shots/implications/stank eye comments that Self probably hurls towards our guy Andy at various points during practice and in the dressing room in front of the whole team and staff. Would it surprise any of you to hear that Self stops practice to get on some guys or to teach, it's all quiet and then he'll toss in a (sarcastic voice) "don't do it like Mr. super star over here" (glances at our guy Andy)?
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a nice guy like wiggins won't survive lawrence for 2 years. the social pressure to do tokes of doping weed and operate motor vehicles under the influence of booze drinks is just too much. sending our guy all of my prayers right now, he really needs this to work out.
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lol at anyone who thinks Wiggins could be a bust. The chance of that happening is 0% and I for one will be wearing my Kansas t-shirt with pride all season long.
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Wiggins knows Bill's game. He has already said in multiple interviews that he is just trying to make the most of his last year at school. The kid sounds somewhat sad when he says that too. Sounds like Bill is wearing on him and between Bill's monstering and the general danger that the city of Lawrence presents to a talented youngster, he may be concerned about his ability to actually enjoy it. :dunno:
Can we get a list of possible barbs/verbal cheap shots/implications/stank eye comments that Self probably hurls towards our guy Andy at various points during practice and in the dressing room in front of the whole team and staff. Would it surprise any of you to hear that Self stops practice to get on some guys or to teach, it's all quiet and then he'll toss in a (sarcastic voice) "don't do it like Mr. super star over here" (glances at our guy Andy)?
Generally, Bill prefers to run down his possible one and done guys through the media.
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I think Self will go on a chick-banging and boozing binge when he snaps under all this pressure. Maybe some concern for the coozes of Lawrentucky is in order.
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Wiggins knows Bill's game. He has already said in multiple interviews that he is just trying to make the most of his last year at school. The kid sounds somewhat sad when he says that too. Sounds like Bill is wearing on him and between Bill's monstering and the general danger that the city of Lawrence presents to a talented youngster, he may be concerned about his ability to actually enjoy it. :dunno:
Can we get a list of possible barbs/verbal cheap shots/implications/stank eye comments that Self probably hurls towards our guy Andy at various points during practice and in the dressing room in front of the whole team and staff. Would it surprise any of you to hear that Self stops practice to get on some guys or to teach, it's all quiet and then he'll toss in a (sarcastic voice) "don't do it like Mr. super star over here" (glances at our guy Andy)?
Generally, Bill prefers to run down his possible one and done guys through the media.
That's true, but I still think there's probably a horrific "death by 1000 cuts" process in there, and the media doesn't afford that many chances.
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They're already turning on him :frown:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2481&t=12267798&p=1
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a nice guy like wiggins won't survive lawrence for 2 years. the social pressure to do tokes of doping weed and operate motor vehicles under the influence of booze drinks is just too much. sending our guy all of my prayers right now, he really needs this to work out.
And don't you think for a second that Xavier and Selby haven't been blowing up Andy's agent's phone with warnings.
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Wiggins knows Bill's game. He has already said in multiple interviews that he is just trying to make the most of his last year at school. The kid sounds somewhat sad when he says that too. Sounds like Bill is wearing on him and between Bill's monstering and the general danger that the city of Lawrence presents to a talented youngster, he may be concerned about his ability to actually enjoy it. :dunno:
Can we get a list of possible barbs/verbal cheap shots/implications/stank eye comments that Self probably hurls towards our guy Andy at various points during practice and in the dressing room in front of the whole team and staff. Would it surprise any of you to hear that Self stops practice to get on some guys or to teach, it's all quiet and then he'll toss in a (sarcastic voice) "don't do it like Mr. super star over here" (glances at our guy Andy)?
Generally, Bill prefers to run down his possible one and done guys through the media.
'Stone, Andy is a completely different cat. Sure, they have had some good players at KU whose career Bill has had to Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) but he has never had anyone like the best college recruit of all time Andy.
I mean, Bill has to really re-eval how he tears ppl down on this one.
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They're already turning on him :frown:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2481&t=12267798&p=1
Until Wiggins actually makes a jumpshot, he is Kenny Gregory 2.0
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They're already turning on him :frown:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2481&t=12267798&p=1
Ten points against FHSU? Weak sauce. Wiggins should be able to put up 20 in his sleep if he's truly the next LeBron.
If you truly believe he's the next Lebron James you're a fool and anything you say as criticism is simply noise.
Until Wiggins actually makes a jumpshot, he is Kenny Gregory 2.0.
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They're already turning on him :frown:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2481&t=12267798&p=1
MONSTERS
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Something beautiful in the circularity of quoting a KSU troll on a KU message board on a KSU blog.
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I can't even imagine the vitriol that will be spewed about poor Andy if he doesn't go off for AT LEAST 30-10-10 vs Dook.
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How many of those comments do you guys think the KU coaching staff created fake accts to post? All of them?
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Something beautiful in the circularity of quoting a KSU troll on a KU message board on a KSU blog.
Three different people. :frown:
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How many of those comments do you guys think the KU coaching staff created fake accts to post? All of them?
as all of you know I am an IT expert and I was able to trace the IP addresses(IT terminology sorry if it goes over your head) back to three people:
one was a ku coach
one was samantha ryan
and another was by richie incognitos dad
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:Wha:
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How many of those comments do you guys think the KU coaching staff created fake accts to post? All of them?
as all of you know I am an IT expert and I was able to trace the IP addresses(IT terminology sorry if it goes over your head) back to four people:
one was a ku coach
one was samantha ryan
and another was by richie incognitos dad
Interesting, if true
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guys... I just had a scary thought - What if Wiggins doesn't live up to my personal expectations that I have for him?
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How many of those comments do you guys think the KU coaching staff created fake accts to post? All of them?
as all of you know I am an IT expert and I was able to trace the IP addresses(IT terminology sorry if it goes over your head) back to three people:
one was a ku coach
one was samantha ryan
and another was by richie incognitos dad
:D Well done.
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Basketball just may not be this guy's game. He may need to just go back to destroying planets full of alien life. :dunno:
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guys... I just had a scary thought - What if Wiggins doesn't live up to my personal expectations that I have for him?
He's not playing for you Spracne, he's playing for the 34th state of the United States of America.
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Does ku have sports psychologists on staff like K-State does?
For Andy's sake, I hope so.
We're here for you Andy!
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There has to be a reasonable explanation for why the guy who was on the MOTHER rough ridin' COVER OF SI is playing like absolute crap against small time opponents.
I mean, what the eff is going on here?????? :runaway:
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Does ku have sports psychologists on staff like K-State does?
For Andy's sake, I hope so.
We're here for you Andy!
They do. Understaffed and unappreciated.
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Does ku have sports psychologists on staff like K-State does?
For Andy's sake, I hope so.
We're here for you Andy!
They are on staff, Dax. Their job is to keep him doing what is best for KU, not best for Andy.
I really hope that his agent has a third party therapist on retainer and that they have already reached out to Andy.
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Frankenstein was a rough ridin' phenom and you saw what the locals did to that poor son of a bitch. Now replace locals with KU fans and you've got double the trouble for our guy Andy. :frown:
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There has to be a reasonable explanation for why the guy who was on the MOTHER rough ridin' COVER OF SI is playing like absolute crap against small time opponents.
I mean, what the eff is going on here?????? :runaway:
Do you think we made a mistake signing him Pete?
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I hope someone sits down with Andy and tells him about Ad Astra per Aspera. It's like a warm bowl of chicken soup for the troubled soul.
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guys... I just had a scary thought - What if Wiggins doesn't live up to my personal expectations that I have for him?
He's not playing for you Spracne, he's playing for the 34th state of the United States of America.
LOL. Pretty sure he's playing to live up to the expectations I personally have built for him. Nice try, tho
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There has to be a reasonable explanation for why the guy who was on the MOTHER rough ridin' COVER OF SI is playing like absolute crap against small time opponents.
I mean, what the eff is going on here?????? :runaway:
why score 50 in an exhibition game? he isn't even trying yet...
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Guys, I just heard some info from a very locked in KU source. Apparently, there is an effort issue with Andy. Apparently he doesn't go 100% all the time and is prone to half assing when up against an opponent he finds unworthy. Bill may have his hands full with this kid after all. Two sides to a story....
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There has to be a reasonable explanation for why the guy who was on the MOTHER rough ridin' COVER OF SI is playing like absolute crap against small time opponents.
I mean, what the eff is going on here?????? :runaway:
why score 50 in an exhibition game? he isn't even trying yet...
Don't you think that's a concern that he isn't trying? He's milking that paycheck just like your football coaching staff.
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Does ku have sports psychologists on staff like K-State does?
For Andy's sake, I hope so.
We're here for you Andy!
No, for the most part they are just encouraged to drink away their problems. Self-help you might say.
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There has to be a reasonable explanation for why the guy who was on the MOTHER rough ridin' COVER OF SI is playing like absolute crap against small time opponents.
I mean, what the eff is going on here?????? :runaway:
Do you think we made a mistake signing him Pete?
I don't know lopak, I don't know. I mean THE COVER OF SI!
No, we landed a stud, but we need to give the stud flower time to spread its wings into a butterfly.
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I hope someone sits down with Andy and tells him about Ad Astra per Aspera. It's like a warm bowl of chicken soup for the troubled soul.
AD ASTRA PER ASPERA!!!!
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There has to be a reasonable explanation for why the guy who was on the MOTHER rough ridin' COVER OF SI is playing like absolute crap against small time opponents.
I mean, what the eff is going on here?????? :runaway:
why score 50 in an exhibition game? he isn't even trying yet...
Don't you think that's a concern that he isn't trying? He's milking that paycheck just like your football coaching staff.
watch Tuesday night vs. duke.
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There has to be a reasonable explanation for why the guy who was on the MOTHER rough ridin' COVER OF SI is playing like absolute crap against small time opponents.
I mean, what the eff is going on here?????? :runaway:
why score 50 in an exhibition game? he isn't even trying yet...
Don't you think that's a concern that he isn't trying? He's milking that paycheck just like your football coaching staff.
watch Tuesday night vs. duke.
:Wha: I don't know. Watching him stand around and do nothing has been pretty boring. I'd almost watch Spradling shoot practice free throws at this point. Almost!
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There has to be a reasonable explanation for why the guy who was on the MOTHER rough ridin' COVER OF SI is playing like absolute crap against small time opponents.
I mean, what the eff is going on here?????? :runaway:
why score 50 in an exhibition game? he isn't even trying yet...
Sounds like we may have a bigger problem on our hands than I'd initially thought. The best players never loaf.
Despite the fact that young Andy is a far better basketball player than both Jordan and LeBron, I don't remember either of them ever being on "cruise control".
:Wha:
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a week from Friday, KthUg will be playing our sister school, Duke. there is plenty of time between now and then for Wiggins to acclimate to the college game.
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Just think when he matches up against Jack :cheers:, Wiggins will be all :horrorsurprise:
One for the ages.
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I hope he is a bust so I can laugh in my KU bud's faces. Especially when Marcus Foster is throwing down two handed tomahawks.
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I hope he is a bust so I can laugh in my KU bud's faces. Especially when Marcus Foster is throwing down two handed tomahawks.
:dubious:
If he's a bust we all lose. #1Wiggins
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a week from Friday, KthUg will be playing our sister school, Duke. there is plenty of time between now and then for Wiggins to acclimate to the college game.
week from Friday huh...
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a week from Friday, KthUg will be playing our sister school, Duke. there is plenty of time between now and then for Wiggins to acclimate to the college game.
week from Friday huh...
pissclams doesn't even know what day the game is! pffft :lol: #epicfail
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a week from Friday, KthUg will be playing our sister school, Duke. there is plenty of time between now and then for Wiggins to acclimate to the college game.
week from Friday huh...
pissclams doesn't even know what day the game is! pffft :lol: #epicfail
i'm not even trying yet!
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I have a theory...Once the temps get down in the 20's, Lebron Deauxover 2.0b will feel right at home again and start mashing faces and slam dunking between his legs and making jump shots. Also, does anyone have a Canada flag for when LB2.0b comes to the OoD?
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Guys, I just heard some info from a very locked in KU source. Apparently, there is an effort issue with Andy. Apparently he doesn't go 100% all the time and is prone to half assing when up against an opponent he finds unworthy. Bill may have his hands full with this kid after all. Two sides to a story....
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Could be a problem considering the entire Big 12 is garbage this year.
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a week from Friday, KthUg will be playing our sister school, Duke. there is plenty of time between now and then for Wiggins to acclimate to the college game.
week from Friday huh...
pissclams doesn't even know what day the game is! pffft :lol: #epicfail
i'm not even trying yet!
Take it to the Thursday Call Out-Off thread that Daris hasn't made yet!
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9931293/letters-advice-andrew-wiggins
Jay Bilas says "listen to your coach" :facepalm:
Our man oscar Pearl dropping some Snyder goals on Andy.
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9931293/letters-advice-andrew-wiggins
Jay Bilas says "listen to your coach" :facepalm:
Our man oscar Pearl dropping some Snyder goals on Andy.
I want to see a letter from J R Giddens. It'd probably be something like this
"Hey Wiggs, try not to get stabbed during your time in Lawrence."
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Letter to Andy
From: Scooter, KU's Dean of Athletic Eligibility
Dear Andy,
At least you'll never have to go to class or take a quiz or pass a test. That crap's for volleyball players. :ROFL:
Scooter
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Letter to Andy
From: Scooter, KU's Dean of Athletic Eligibility
Dear Andy,
At least you'll never have to go to class or take a quiz or pass a test. That crap's for volleyball players. :ROFL:
Scooter
Exactly.
Dear Andy:
Hit that snooze button, the entire women's golf team is in class right now.
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Dear Andy,
Hey it's your bro Mario Little. Just wanted to give you a piece of advise. When your fighting with your girlfriend, don't follow her to someone elses apartment and start pushing random girls. Bill frowns on that, but he'll probably still let you play.
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Seems like Wiggins lacks that "killer instinct" we hear so much about. :dunno: Maybe he's missing the "it" factor? Hope he figures IT out.
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Dear Andy,
Hey it's your bro Mario Little. Just wanted to give you a piece of advise. When your fighting with your girlfriend, don't follow her to someone elses apartment and start pushing random girls smashing your girls face in a rough ridin' sink. Bill frowns on that, but he'll probably still let you play.
FYP
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Dear Andy,
Hey it's your bro Mario Little. Just wanted to give you a piece of advise. When your fighting with your girlfriend, don't follow her to someone elses apartment and start pushing random girls smashing your girls face in a rough ridin' sink. Bill frowns on that, but he'll probably still let you play.
FYP
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a week from Friday, KthUg will be playing our sister school, Duke. there is plenty of time between now and then for Wiggins to acclimate to the college game.
week from Friday huh...
pissclams doesn't even know what day the game is! pffft :lol: #epicfail
i'm not even trying yet!
I enjoyed this post
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Keegan on 810 trashing Wiggins, said he is not a great basketball payer, only a great recruit. Also, said Embid (sp?) needs to stay 2 more years.
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Keegan on 810 trashing Wiggins, said he is not a great basketball payer, only a great recruit. Also, said Embid (sp?) needs to stay 2 more years.
Self's mouthpiece
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Keegan sounds a lot like Weiss. It's weird because KU's other guy on 810 all the time sounds like Self.
What in the world is going on out there?
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Jabari Parker, what a joke, Andy has a little somethin' waiting for you biggun'
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16 & 3 vs ULM... with a bucket at the buzzer to pad the stats. I'm getting increasingly concerned for the entire fanbase, guys.
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This guy has to go off tonight. HAS TO!
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How many chances is Bill going to give Andy before he throws him on the junk heap of a bench they have and moves on? I mean, I am fully on Andy's team here, but Bill has to win now. Sometimes you just don't have time for a project player, you know?
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Goodman was on with Soren, trashing Wiggins.
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Goodman was on with Soren, trashing Wiggins.
I bet Gottlieb refused to do so. I bet Bill pulled strings and now a willing Goodman has taken Gottlieb's place.
Sad.
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Goodman was on with Soren, trashing Wiggins.
goodman must have very low self esteem.
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Goodman was on with Soren, trashing Wiggins.
goodman must have very low self esteem.
Well than he fits in on Petro's show. Both sound like they build themselves up by tearing others down.
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I think the bar has been set for the evening... Mr. Randle is in the clubhouse with 27/13.
:popcorn:
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Guys, after watching that I am concerned that after tonight haters will start saying that Andy wouldn't even start for Kentucky this year.
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Andy got a haircut for his very first TV game!!
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Parker is gonna clown Wiggins. Duke by 12.
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haters and non TSC being outed left and right
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Andy got a haircut for his very first TV game!!
:tsc:
looked homeless last time
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haters and non TSC being outed left and right
:gocho:
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Do you guys think recruiting experts accidentally ranked Wiggins ahead of Parker and Randle? Or maybe James Young? Maybe someone at the AAU made a mistake on the program and scouts/recruitniks were actually watching Young and thinking he was Wiggins?
Seems a stretch, but think about it, what other explanation is there?
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KU looking really good tonight, who is their sharp shooter?
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KU might beat us by 40.
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Do you guys think recruiting experts accidentally ranked Wiggins ahead of Parker and Randle? Or maybe James Young? Maybe someone at the AAU made a mistake on the program and scouts/recruitniks were actually watching Young and thinking he was Wiggins?
Seems a stretch, but think about it, what other explanation is there?
They were linking Self. Plain and simple.
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Where is our guy?
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Where is our guy?
I don't think he made the trip.
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Probs foul troubs
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There is a lot a frosh can learn by watching others who are ready play.
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bill looks bloated and pale. Really licking his lips alot too.
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Can someone make sure that KU has to get to Manhattan the night before their game here and they get super pak'd in Aggieville like they did in Dallas the day before the TCU game and have to play in the fOOD all hungover-like? I think its our only chance.
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I don't like the way Parker is completely showing up our guy. Not one bit
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Where is our guy?
They gave out orange slices at half. Give him more time, dork.
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Good thing our guy only has to deal with this competition level for 1 year.
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Bust
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not watching.. hows the game and our guy doing?! TSC!
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not watching.. hows the game and our guy doing?! TSC!
bad
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Cherry picking for the dunk!!
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:Wha: did you guys see that dunk! He outran like everybody!
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3rd best frosh in the building? Maybe?
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He's sucks you guys! :frown:
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This game is fantastic, the talent incredible, and makes me hate oscar even more.
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Can someone make sure that KU has to get to Manhattan the night before their game here and they get super pak'd in Aggieville like they did in Dallas the day before the TCU game and have to play in the fOOD all hungover-like? I think its our only chance.
They could spend all afternoon at the Ville getting pak'd and they would still walk into the gym that evening and beat us by twenty. No combination of circumstances could lead to a K-State win vs KU this year.
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He's such mumped you guys! :frown:
:Wha:
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Is it just me or does Wiggins look like a pregnant woman when he puts his hands on his hips?
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Is it just me or does Wiggins look like a pregnant woman when he puts his hands on his hips?
Canadians :dunno: Anybody have info on what Hopper' hands on hips game is like?
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I'm not watching the game, but from the box score it looks like our guy Wiggins is 100% stud.
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I'm not watching the game, but from the box score it looks like our guy Wiggins is 100% stud.
yeah, we got a good one
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From what I'm taking about, they should never lose, NEVER!
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double-double!
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Self's words, we recruited those kids, but they never gave in. :frown:
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Has anyone seen the interview with Wiggins where they asked what the best part of Lawrence was and he said, "that I'm only going to be here for a year"? I'm not goEMAWing, I heard this was a real thing.
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Has anyone seen the interview with Wiggins where they asked what the best part of Lawrence was and he said, "that I'm only going to be here for a year"? I'm not goEMAWing, I heard this was a real thing.
No, but he's going to get crushed in the NBA. Too soft.
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Has anyone seen the interview with Wiggins where they asked what the best part of Lawrence was and he said, "that I'm only going to be here for a year"? I'm not goEMAWing, I heard this was a real thing.
Yep. Kid repeats it every interview.
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From what I'm taking about, they should never lose, NEVER!
What was this before you edited it?
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that and-one foul call on his dunk was so :lol: :lol: :lol:
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that and-one foul call on his dunk was so :lol: :lol: :lol:
To be fair, a lot of the calls were :lol:. I turned it on at the 8 minute mark in the second half and saw about 10 straight possessions that resulted in free throws. Then a couple regular shots, then ten more possessions with free throws. It was awful.
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The adjustment to the new rule has been horrible. Worse than the calls before the rule. I really hope teams adjust super quick before conf play.
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Has this been posted?
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pay-andrew-wiggins-to-stay-in-school?show_todos=true#description
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How long did that take you to make, Sonny?
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Did he play last night?
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Did he play last night?
yes. but not very much, despite logging 30 minutes.
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Did he play last night?
he had a great game w/ 13pts and 7rebs. he's basically former ksu stud jamar samuels except he doesn't get any off. boards!!!
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They are going to start pushing him to come back and it will make me very sad.
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KU is literally costing him millions per minute. :frown:
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KU is literally costing him millions per minute. :frown:
idk about that math there, mocat, but KU is definitely hurting this guys draft stock.
if it i had the draft right now i think wiggins would be outside the top 10.
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KU is literally costing him millions per minute. :frown:
idk about that math there, mocat, but KU is definitely hurting this guys draft stock.
if it i had the draft right now i think wiggins would be outside the top 10.
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If Bill Self's goal at the university of kansas is to prevent his one and done players of leaving early he is doing well. I mean, poor Wiggins was absolutely shown up by randle and Parker and now is seeing his touches very limited.
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It's obvious Wiggins will have to come back next year. I don't think he wants to go the JaRon Rush route.
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Shut up, losers.... :nono:
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Shut up, losers.... :nono:
Are you worried that Bill Self will prevent Andrew Wiggins from going #1 overall in the 2014 NBA draft?
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Shut up, losers.... :nono:
Are you worried that Bill Self will prevent Andrew Wiggins from going #1 overall in the 2014 NBA draft?
Man, they're already saying Marcus Smart will match up with him in the OSU game. :frown:
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It's a shame Andy lives in Lawrence, KANSAS, he probably needs a long walk on a sandy beach right about now.
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I heard the only reason Wiggins was out there for 30 was because news had come back that Smart was dominant against a much better team. Self wants Wiggins to be second in the conference, not to mention show him what coming back for a Soph year can do.
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Shut up, losers.... :nono:
Are you worried that Bill Self will prevent Andrew Wiggins from going #1 overall in the 2014 NBA draft?
No.
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Guys he sucks. :frown:
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Guys he sucks. :frown:
shut up. no he doesn't, he's about the same level of player as jamslam and if you thought jamar sucked you are a dumbass.
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I feel like Jamslam had intangibles, though. Moxy, zeal, leadership, junkyardcat. Wiggins kinda just mopes around like he's an ADD kid on heavy sedatives.
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I feel like Jamslam had intangibles, though. Moxy, zeal, leadership, junkyardcat. Wiggins kinda just mopes around like he's an ADD kid on heavy sedatives.
Another victim of the culture of alcoholism and drug addiction in lawrence
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Wiggins is the thing, man. Don't know why you all want him to fail. What's next, you pointing out how his face resembles a platypus?
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Shut up, losers.... :nono:
Are you worried that Bill Self will prevent Andrew Wiggins from going #1 overall in the 2014 NBA draft?
No.
Because you've already accepted it right.
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Shut up, losers.... :nono:
Are you worried that Bill Self will prevent Andrew Wiggins from going #1 overall in the 2014 NBA draft?
No.
Because you've already accepted it right.
I don't believe Bill Self will have anything to do with whether Andrew goes #1 or not. Bill definitely wants him to go #1.
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Is there a betting site offering odds on Andy NOT going #1? If so, let me know so I can bet all of my farms. At this point I'd even bet one farm (a small one in West Texas I won two weeks ago) that he doesn't go in the top 5.
Guys like Parker, Randle, Smart, and Gordon are being showcased while AW gets <10 shots per game. :shakesfist:
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Shut up, losers.... :nono:
Are you worried that Bill Self will prevent Andrew Wiggins from going #1 overall in the 2014 NBA draft?
No.
Because you've already accepted it right.
I don't believe Bill Self will have anything to do with whether Andrew goes #1 or not. Bill definitely wants him to go #1.
After his eligibility expires maybe.
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Is there a betting site offering odds on Andy NOT going #1? If so, let me know so I can bet all of my farms. At this point I'd even bet one farm (a small one in West Texas I won two weeks ago) that he doesn't go in the top 5.
Guys like Parker, Randle, Smart, and Gordon are being showcased while AW gets <10 shots per game. :shakesfist:
I'd say you'd be poised to double your farmland, were NBA management comprised of a bunch of casual basketball fans.
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Bill is totally making andy play bad right now so that he can slowly start making him better this year. Bill is going to show the NBA that he can coach a bunch of really talented kids all at the same time and even when one is totally not playing up to expectations, that Bill can make said disappointment turn around and produce.
Then.....Boom, Andy and Bill make the jump next yr.
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Is there a betting site offering odds on Andy NOT going #1? If so, let me know so I can bet all of my farms. At this point I'd even bet one farm (a small one in West Texas I won two weeks ago) that he doesn't go in the top 5.
Guys like Parker, Randle, Smart, and Gordon are being showcased while AW gets <10 shots per game. :shakesfist:
I'd say you'd be poised to double your farmland, were NBA management comprised of a bunch of casual basketball fans.
Sorry, Sprac, but he's not going #1. It's not because he isn't good or because of Self, but because those other guys are better.
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Guys, if Marcus Smart plays against Andy and has the same type of game he had last night, then Marcus is #1
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would andy (playing at his current level) crack the starting 5 of duke or kentucky? probably not :frown:
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Bill is totally making andy play bad right now so that he can slowly start making him better this year. Bill is going to show the NBA that he can coach a bunch of really talented kids all at the same time and even when one is totally not playing up to expectations, that Bill can make said disappointment turn around and produce.
Then.....Boom, Andy and Bill make the jump next yr.
Yep. Wiggins is already praying that whoever drafts him doesn't hire Bill as their next head coach.
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Wiggins is the thing, man. Don't know why you all want him to fail. What's next, you pointing out how his face resembles a platypus?
i dont see the platypus thing. hes a good looking young man just is kind of stinky at basketball.
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he needs to have that thing on his shoulder looked at. that thing really creeps me out.
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he needs to have that thing on his shoulder looked at. that thing really creeps me out.
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http://www.kansascity.com/2013/11/20/4636503/iona-guard-isnt-a-wiggins-fan.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2013/11/20/4636503/iona-guard-isnt-a-wiggins-fan.html)
sorry if luked. :Lurk: (ftp://:Lurk:) <-----except the guy is luke.
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http://www.kansascity.com/2013/11/20/4636503/iona-guard-isnt-a-wiggins-fan.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2013/11/20/4636503/iona-guard-isnt-a-wiggins-fan.html)
sorry if luked. :Lurk: (ftp://:Lurk:) <-----except the guy is luke.
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Man. :frown:
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Y'ALL BEEN PHOG'D!
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so when do the funny pictures show up?
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Embeed had a nice game. Self better watch that.
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Where is all this butthurt tuck coming from you guys? Just because he isn't at Fosters productivity doesn't mean he isn't our guy.
He isn't our guy now. Because Foster is a stud/boss, he is now our guy.
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Embeed had a nice game. Self better watch that.
Great point, Bread.
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I feel like Jamslam had intangibles, though. Moxy, zeal, leadership, junkyardcat. Wiggins kinda just mopes around like he's an ADD kid on heavy sedatives.
eff man, take it easy...
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Would Wiggins even start for us? Honestly I'm not sure if he had played the last 3 games for K-State if he would have better numbers than Westicles.
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Embeed had a nice game. Self better watch that.
Self's system showcases bigs. I have no idea why any NBA bound guard would play for him honestly. Hoping our guy can make it though. :frown:
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I'm sorry for the things I said last night. I was frustrated. Wiggins is most definitely probably maybe the next Lebron or Jordan!
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:frown:
Lots of time WC. KU closed it to two in no time earlier. They have plenty of time to eff around before Bill intimidates a ref.
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Lots of time WC. KU closed it to two in no time earlier. They have plenty of time to eff around before Bill intimidates a ref.
Already had a T in the first half :ohno:
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They won't give him the second. Bill has this planned out perfectly.
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"Trying to post Wiggins up but has another freshman in front of him."
"Not playing with enough force"
"The other freshman wants to deny him the ball more than he wants it."
These announcers are being mean to our guy Andy, you guys.
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Welp. Embiid just fouled out. He was the engine of the comeback momentum making crap happen in the post.
Btw, he will have 30 pts, 8 assists, and infinity boards on us.
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If Wiggins was as assertive as Mason, he would be what he has been billed as. However, he seems to play soft.
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If Wiggins was as assertive as Mason, he would be what he has been billed as. However, he seems to play soft.
You shut your whore mouth.
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mason is more skilled. that makes it easier for him to assert himself.
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Self is the bizarro world Santa Claus, just crushing kids :frown:
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honest ? did beas ever have a line like wiggs did tonight?
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Frank Mason ? @ F_Mason15 22m
Everybody who got some to say about me and my decisions it's just motivation I know I made bad decisions and I will improve from them.
Frank Mason ? @ F_Mason15 21m
Some of KU fans <<<<<
Frank Mason ? @ F_Mason15 4m
They love us when we win though
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He doubled-down today. Six points of 2 for 9 shooting, seven rebounds
Lollers, these two gems comes after phoggers sharply observed Gordon shouldn't be consider elite like Parker, Wiggins and Randle because of his numbers against Duke.
honest ? did beas ever have a line like wiggs did tonight?
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Guys, its okay. I heard Andy (and most of the team) was sick the whole trip.
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honest ? did beas ever have a line like wiggs did tonight?
Honest answer: Lol No.
The Beas was one of the most dominant players in the country as a freshman. His 26.2 points (third-leading) and nation-leading 12.4 rebounds were the most by a Big 12 player in any season. His 866 total points and 408 rebounds ranked third and second among all freshmen in NCAA history. He also led the nation in double-doubles (28), 40-point games (three), 30-point, 10-rebound games (13), and 20-point, 10-rebound games (22).
It's becoming clear that Andy is a nice two year player, but will most likely leave early and go play pro with Josh Selby in China. For his own good, I hope he listens to Bill Self and Doug Compton and returns for another season.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/90588/wiggins-should-play-like-parker
Article on ESPN about Wiggins free falling down draft boards
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http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/90588/wiggins-should-play-like-parker
Article on ESPN about Wiggins free falling down draft boards
Self will ruin him.
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He just needs another year. More time to develop.
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what's that kid that played there last year with all the hype- i can't remember his name?
he had no left and a questionable jumper- ben maclamore. self killed that kid. same with that josh selby. same with xavier henry. cole aldrich, the list just never ends. go to lawrence = death of nba career.
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He just needs another year. More time to develop.
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It's just so rare for a freshman to come in and be an all world superstar of college basketball like Michael Beasley.
For his own good, I hope Bill and Doug can talk some sense in to him.
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Maybe if he did more than stand on the right wing, emotionless, he'd start to develop something? :dunno:
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@RealJayWilliams: @ESPNCBB NBA scout on Andrew Wiggins: What does he do well? Does he have any moves? All of his points are scored in transition.
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He just needs another year. More time to develop.
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It's just so rare for a freshman to come in and be an all world superstar of college basketball like Michael Beasley.
For his own good, I hope Bill and Doug can talk some sense in to him.
Beas, Durant, Blake Griffin, Marcus Smart.....
I don't know. I am thinking there is something else going on here.
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@RealJayWilliams: @ESPNCBB NBA scout on Andrew Wiggins: What does he do well? Does he have any moves? All of his points are scored in transition.
I bet Bill is showing this to his coaches and ppl in the AD like it's a picture of his kids, then laughing his ass off.
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Jeff Goodman ?@GoodmanESPN 4m
@AndyGlockner Trust me when I say there is far more than one NBA scout/executive questioning whether Wiggins should be No. 1 pick right
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Congrats, 'taters. Slap some white paint on a wall.
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Bread, you guys should be getting a hold of that hat fake recruit guy and bringing the opinions of past NBA stars and respected writers to his attention.
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Congrats, 'taters. Slap some white paint on a wall.
Farmhumps all around!
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Congrats, 'taters. Slap some white paint on a wall.
Cheer up, Beems. Embiid is going to be the star we hoped Wiggins would be.
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KU = the hottest topic on the hoops board
KU = the hottest topic on the football board
Remind me again why you guys don't have an inferiority complex when it comes to KU.
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Remind me again why you guys don't have an inferiority complex when it comes to KU.
we don't rage and meltdown while arguing several times a year.
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Maybe if he did more than stand on the right wing, emotionless, he'd start to develop something? :dunno:
I guess you didn't watch of much Jordan in his prime. Mostly he just stood on the wing looking for an opportunity to dunk it.
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Remind me again why you guys don't have an inferiority complex when it comes to KU.
we don't rage and meltdown while arguing several times a year.
:lol:
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Remind me again why you guys don't have an inferiority complex when it comes to KU.
we don't rage and meltdown while arguing several times a year.
No, you guys just celebrate and bust out the Jergens lotion whenever a big-time KU athlete underachieves. Sounds like quite the life!
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Beems, are you finally popping the question these holidays? :crossfingers:
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He just needs another year. More time to develop.
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It's just so rare for a freshman to come in and be an all world superstar of college basketball like Michael Beasley.
For his own good, I hope Bill and Doug can talk some sense in to him.
Melo, Beas, Durant, Blake Griffin, Marcus Smart.....
I don't know. I am thinking there is something else going on here.
Jabari Parker, Julius Randle....
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Bread, you guys should be getting a hold of that hat fake recruit guy and bringing the opinions of past NBA stars and respected writers to his attention.
No, that big Down's baby is dead to me. I hope he enjoys his 9 points and 7 rebounds per in 17 minutes a game as a "one-and-done" at KU.
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One-And-Done has a completely different meaning to Bill.
One year, and your NBA prospects are done.
I bet he tells kids all the time how he will work hard to make sure they are O&D only to laugh his ass off at his own private joke.
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Huge laker fan here......xavier henry is breaking the mold when it comes to ku guys who under achieved. ...he is looking really good...dropped 27pts off the bench the other night
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One-And-Done has a completely different meaning to Bill.
One year, and your NBA prospects are done.
I bet he tells kids all the time how he will work hard to make sure they are O&D only to laugh his ass off at his own private joke.
I wonder just how many of Bills Jayhawks are getting NBA payed today ?? yes that would be quite a few. You girls are clowns from another world :bang: :bang:
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One-And-Done has a completely different meaning to Bill.
One year, and your NBA prospects are done.
I bet he tells kids all the time how he will work hard to make sure they are O&D only to laugh his ass off at his own private joke.
I wonder just how many of Bills Jayhawks are getting NBA payed today ?? yes that would be quite a few. You girls are clowns from another world :bang: :bang:
you need to calm down
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Huge laker fan here......xavier henry is breaking the mold when it comes to ku guys who under achieved. ...he is looking really good...dropped 27pts off the bench the other night
How long as he been away from Bill? Maybe it takes so many years to get the potential back on track.
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Huge laker fan here......xavier henry is breaking the mold when it comes to ku guys who under achieved. ...he is looking really good...dropped 27pts off the bench the other night
How long as he been away from Bill? Maybe it takes so many years to get the potential back on track.
Just happy that the damage Bill inflicts isn't permanent.
A real success story.
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takes a while to unteach Seff's stuff.
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takes a while to unteach Seff's stuff.
Sports therapists and a lot of patience, coaching, and love.
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takes a while to unteach Seff's stuff.
Sports therapists and a lot of patients, coaching, and love.
But mostly love.
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Jeff Goodman ?@GoodmanESPN 4m
@AndyGlockner Trust me when I say there is far more than one NBA scout/executive questioning whether Wiggins should be No. 1 pick right
Dam you Bill Self!!! Your screwing up #ourguyAndy
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Woof!
http://www.skatecarter.com/1/post/2013/12/in-defense-of-andrew-wiggins.html
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DreamWheater n00b
Rating: 3.0/5 this site
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Re: In Defense of Wiggins
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luvthatblue wrote: People need to realize the expectations Wiggins has to live up too. I mean he was being compared to Lebron before he even stepped foot on campus, unless he scores 30 every game people are going to criticize the kid unfairly despite the fact he's only 18 years old and still has a lot to learn about the game.
I'm so sick of this talking about. All he does is sit on the wing. He's timid. He was over hyped, not his fault, but we also did this as fans in the off season and no we're eating crow.
:surprised:
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First the realization of Charlie, now this. How much more crow can they stomach?
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If that wasn't my sock, I'd say they're turning on him. :lol:
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dax or wacky.. which ones more obsessed w/ ku?
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DreamWheater n00b
Rating: 3.0/5 this site
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Nominate | ReportPosted: Today 2:02 PM
Re: In Defense of Wiggins
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luvthatblue wrote: People need to realize the expectations Wiggins has to live up too. I mean he was being compared to Lebron before he even stepped foot on campus, unless he scores 30 every game people are going to criticize the kid unfairly despite the fact he's only 18 years old and still has a lot to learn about the game.
I'm so sick of this talking about. All he does is sit on the wing. He's timid. He was over hyped, not his fault, but we also did this as fans in the off season and no we're eating crow.
:surprised:
that guy's grammar :sdeek:
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Beems broke the case you guys:
Posing as a KU fan in order to trash Wiggins and make us look bad might be an all-time low, wackycat.
:lol:
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DreamWheater is a really good name for a sock on phog.net, fanning. :thumbsup:
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DreamWheater is a really good name for a sock on phog.net, fanning. :thumbsup:
Thanks! I thought so too, NK.
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dax or wacky.. which ones more obsessed w/ ku?
Who seems to be more angry? YLA or CartierFor3?
I vote . . . tie.
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Kick their ass, dax!
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Lol. Beems reported me to the phog mods. They're deleting my posts. That guy... :lol:
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lol
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I feel gross for believing that you guys wanted KU and Wiggins to achieve their dreams for the betterment of the Sunflower State. It's dispicable that you sourpusses are actively rooting for an 18 y.o. to fail for your own enjoyment. shakingmyhead.
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smdh
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smdh
Indeed...com
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dax or wacky.. which ones more obsessed w/ ku?
Who seems to be more angry? YLA or CartierFor3?
I vote . . . tie.
not angry, observant.. but when I want to hear more about regents or carolina I'll give you a ring
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dax or wacky.. which ones more obsessed w/ ku?
Who seems to be more angry? YLA or CartierFor3?
I vote . . . tie.
not angry, observant.. but when I want to hear more about regents or carolina I'll give you a ring
So a sort of seething passive aggressive partially internalized anger? Sounds right.
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Lol. Beems reported me to the phog mods. They're deleting my posts. That guy... :lol:
You're the one posing as a KU fan on a KU message board.
:rolleyes:
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WC has previously stated several times that he TSC's for a living, or something like that.
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dax or wacky.. which ones more obsessed w/ ku?
Who seems to be more angry? YLA or CartierFor3?
I vote . . . tie.
not angry, observant.. but when I want to hear more about regents or carolina I'll give you a ring
So a sort of seething passive aggressive partially internalized anger? Sounds right.
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You're projecting again, 'Pad.
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Lol. Beems reported me to the phog mods. They're deleting my posts. That guy... :lol:
You're the one posing as a KU fan on a KU message board.
:rolleyes:
His name was DreamWheater, though. :lol:
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I feel gross for believing that you guys wanted KU and Wiggins to achieve their dreams for the betterment of the Sunflower State. It's dispicable that you sourpusses are actively rooting for an 18 y.o. to fail for your own enjoyment. shakingmyhead.
You really can't read for crap
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WC has previously stated several times that he TSC's for a living, or something like that.
Damn straight I do! :D
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I feel gross for believing that you guys wanted KU and Wiggins to achieve their dreams for the betterment of the Sunflower State. It's dispicable that you sourpusses are actively rooting for an 18 y.o. to fail for your own enjoyment. shakingmyhead.
You really can't read for crap
Why does crap need me to read for it/him?
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:D Took me two seconds to think of that.
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It's fantastic. you should chance your name here to that.
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It's fantastic. you should chance your name here to that.
Mods? Can I?
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Lol. Beems reported me to the phog mods. They're deleting my posts. That guy... :lol:
You're the one posing as a KU fan on a KU message board.
:rolleyes:
His name was DreamWheater, though. :lol:
Oooohhh dream wheater, I believe you can get me through the niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!!!
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Lol. Beems reported me to the phog mods. They're deleting my posts. That guy... :lol:
You're the one posing as a KU fan on a KU message board.
:rolleyes:
His name was DreamWheater, though. :lol:
Oooohhh dream wheater, I believe you can get me through the niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!!!
Oooooooh, I get it now! thx
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Lol. Beems reported me to the phog mods. They're deleting my posts. That guy... :lol:
You're the one posing as a KU fan on a KU message board.
:rolleyes:
His name was DreamWheater, though. :lol:
Oooohhh dream wheater, I believe you can get me through the niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!!!
Oooooooh, I get it now! thx
Can a guy not sing a little dream wheater without getting a bunch of hipster snark thrown back in his face?
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Was at a squawk wedding this past weekend. They all hate Wiggins, think he is Xavier Henry pt 2. I haven't heard a fanbase talk that much crap on their own player since Will Spradling.
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Lol. Beems reported me to the phog mods. They're deleting my posts. That guy... :lol:
You're the one posing as a KU fan on a KU message board.
:rolleyes:
His name was DreamWheater, though. :lol:
Oooohhh dream wheater, I believe you can get me through the niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!!!
Oooooooh, I get it now! thx
Can a guy not sing a little dream wheater without getting a bunch of hipster snark thrown back in his face?
dorkstore.
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KU poster on KSU blog fight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjustfutures.files.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F11%2Fcolbert-screaming-gif.gif&hash=be80c6ffe9521011835b91d4ee2aa50be26d64bb)
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Note to self: Spracne gets upset when people reference lyrics to a song.
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Note to self: Spracne gets upset when people reference lyrics to a song.
kick his ass, OS
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Note to self: Move all my money out of commemorative coins :th_twocents: and into PNW dorkstores.
No malice, though. Let's sing Kumbaya. Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya. Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya.
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DreamWheater is pretty good, credit where credit is due and all that
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True story my phog login has the word sock in it.
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DreamWheater is pretty good, credit where credit is due and all that
:thumbs:
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AintNoWheats .... probably been done, right?
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AintNoWheats .... probably been done, right?
Fantastic. You should go check it out.
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I feel gross for believing that you guys wanted KU and Wiggins to achieve their dreams for the betterment of the Sunflower State. It's dispicable that you sourpusses are actively rooting for an 18 y.o. to fail for your own enjoyment. shakingmyhead.
You wanted him to go to KU. That is the definition of wanting a highly rated pro prospect to fail for your own enjoyment
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KU is the Venus Flytrap of basketball programs.
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I don't get it
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I don't think him making 2-3 in crunch time can be classified as a choke. I really don't.. :whistle1: :whistle1: (ftp://:whistle1: :whistle1:)
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I feel gross for believing that you guys wanted KU and Wiggins to achieve their dreams for the betterment of the Sunflower State. It's dispicable that you sourpusses are actively rooting for an 18 y.o. to fail for your own enjoyment. shakingmyhead.
You wanted him to go to KU. That is the definition of wanting a highly rated pro prospect to fail for your own enjoyment
:lol:
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they turned on EJ so fast last year, and he was a 4year player... i'm afraid of what the ku lynch mob will do to a player they have pretty much no attachment to at all. :frown:
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I feel gross for believing that you guys wanted KU and Wiggins to achieve their dreams for the betterment of the Sunflower State. It's dispicable that you sourpusses are actively rooting for an 18 y.o. to fail for your own enjoyment. shakingmyhead.
You wanted him to go to KU. That is the definition of wanting a highly rated pro prospect to fail for your own enjoyment
checkmate
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Frankamp, more like Frankrap, amirite?
4 0-3 0-3 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0
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Markieff Morris, Marcus Morris, Ben McLemore, Xavier Henry, Thomas Robinson, and Tyshawn Taylor are all having the best NBA seasons of their young careers. Wiggins and Embiid are going to be really good NBA players as well.
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Whole lot of media types not so sure about our guy Andy at this point. :ohno:
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do you guys ever look back and think that if andy had made all 3 free throws after he wasn't fouled shooting that jumper instead of just 2 the game would have ended differently? I sure do.
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Markieff Morris, Marcus Morris, Ben McLemore, Xavier Henry, Thomas Robinson, and Tyshawn Taylor are all having the best NBA seasons of their young careers. Wiggins and Embiid are going to be really good NBA players as well.
I have not seen anything this year that tells me Wiggins will be a good NBA player.
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Markieff Morris, Marcus Morris, Ben McLemore, Xavier Henry, Thomas Robinson, and Tyshawn Taylor are all having the best NBA seasons of their young careers. Wiggins and Embiid are going to be really good NBA players as well.
I have not seen anything this year that tells me Wiggins will be a good NBA player.
And by that I mean final scores, box scores and twitter commentary.
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Markieff Morris, Marcus Morris, Ben McLemore, Xavier Henry, Thomas Robinson, and Tyshawn Taylor are all having the best NBA seasons of their young careers. Wiggins and Embiid are going to be really good NBA players as well.
Only the Morris twins are averaging double figures. Also, Tyshawn and Robinson aren't very good at all.
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Markieff Morris, Marcus Morris, Ben McLemore, Xavier Henry, Thomas Robinson, and Tyshawn Taylor are all having the best NBA seasons of their young careers. Wiggins and Embiid are going to be really good NBA players as well.
john wallace averaged 14 ppg in his second season
:dunno:
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Just heard KU is playing tonight. Bones is also on, it's a repeat and I've already seen the episode but I'm still not sure what to watch. Obviously the ratings will be higher for bones but I also want to support our guy Wiggins. Thoughts? :dunno:
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:frown:
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announcers just blamed wiggins sucking on the rest of the team being scrubs. sounds correct.
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announcers just blamed wiggins sucking on the rest of the team being scrubs. sounds correct.
He needs more time!
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When can we just go ahead and admit we were sold a false bill of goods...
I get that he's crazy athletic, but our boy's basketball skills are almost non-existant.
:bang:
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imagine how embarrassing it would have been if beasley had played this poorly
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Does Self even hold practice with these guys 'til mid december? prolly letting them fail on their own early to make it all about him when they win it all, whatta dick!
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double double haters
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double double haters
someone had to show up.
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Markieff Morris, Marcus Morris, Ben McLemore, Xavier Henry, Thomas Robinson, and Tyshawn Taylor are all having the best NBA seasons of their young careers. Wiggins and Embiid are going to be really good NBA players as well.
Learn me some basketball Beems... Should we be measuring the success of our bball program on how NBA players are doing? If so, could you please post a list of NBA players for us to pick from. I wouldn't know where to start looking.
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Clams and I got court side tix free at the gym yesterday and hit the Sprint last night. About half full but decent crowd considering it was a Saturday night with good weather.
I'm happy to report that Andrew is BIGTIME TSC. Clams and I were in purple and he acknowledged us a few times. Even gave clams dap once as he ran back. He really gets that it's all about The state of Kansas.
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Markieff Morris, Marcus Morris, Ben McLemore, Xavier Henry, Thomas Robinson, and Tyshawn Taylor are all having the best NBA seasons of their young careers. Wiggins and Embiid are going to be really good NBA players as well.
Bold analysis that this is Ben McLemore's best NBA season.
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Clams and I got court side tix free at the gym yesterday and hit the Sprint last night. About half full but decent crowd considering it was a Saturday night with good weather.
I'm happy to report that Andrew is BIGTIME TSC. Clams and I were in purple and he acknowledged us a few times. Even gave clams dap once as he ran back. He really gets that it's all about The state of Kansas.
Great report. I saw free tickets at the fas station downtown, but kinda pushed them aside. It's kinda hard to TSC when they're in a rut like this.
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JFC. First the fans turn on their players, now it's player on player crime.
http://zagsblog.com/articles/tyshawn-taylor-would-take-dukes-parker-no-1-overall-not-kansas-andrew-wiggins/#more-107363
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No love lost.
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To be fair, I probably wouldn't ever trust anything Tyshawn says, guy is as dumb as a box of rocks.
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Can you imagine picking a school cause your brother is down the road and not only is his bro better, but his mid major team is too? :surprised:
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Can you imagine picking a school cause your brother is down the road and not only is his bro better, but his mid major team is too? :surprised:
Exact reason KU won't play those Shocker guys at this point. Can you imagine what KU fans would do if the wrong Wiggins won?
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Has anyone considered that Andy is doing this on purpose because he's tired of the extreme racism he faces everyday in Lawrence?
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Has anyone considered that Andy is doing this on purpose because he's tired of the extreme racism he faces everyday in Lawrence?
No, if that was it, he would be playing in super boss mode to get out as fast as possible. His current play is more likely to land him more time in Lawrence.
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Or maybe... Andy seems like a pretty good kid, and definitely not into the drug/alcohol lifestyle that ku demands of it's athletes. Maybe he's tired of all the peer pressure, and being a bust is his way of telling all the drug pushers to back off.
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Is he playing today? :dunno:
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To be fair, I probably wouldn't ever trust anything Tyshawn says, guy is as dumb as a box of rocks.
No, he isn't, and you're a racist.
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To be fair, I probably wouldn't ever trust anything Tyshawn says, guy is as dumb as a box of rocks.
No, he isn't, and you're a racist.
Oh jfc, it's almost Christmas, cheer up.
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:combofan:f
To be fair, I probably wouldn't ever trust anything Tyshawn says, guy is as dumb as a box of rocks.
No, he isn't, and you're a racist.
Yes, he is
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Guys, our guy Andy is going to be fine. It looks like he is talking with Kanye as a go between for Jay-Z's talent agency. If our guy is in Hova's hands, I feel more comfortable.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24386158/photo-andrew-wiggins-and-kanye-west (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24386158/photo-andrew-wiggins-and-kanye-west)
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Figured he'd stay in Lawrence for break
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Figured he'd stay in Lawrence for break
Self might have learned his lesson by now of letting players out of his sight to cause mischief...?
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Figured he'd stay in Lawrence for break
Sneaking Kanye into a backwoodsy joint like Lawrence to meet with Andy is a lot harder than it sounds. Canada is much more reasonable.
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Figured he'd stay in Lawrence for break
Self might have learned his lesson by now of letting players out of his sight to cause mischief...?
It's probably good to get him out of Lawrence (drugs, drinking and driving, hitting girls) for his career's sake.
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He obvsly has lost "It" while in Lawrence. Bill probably asked him to get back to Canada to find "It" again before conf seasons starts.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1899019-is-andrew-wiggins-2014-nba-draft-stock-starting-to-slip (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1899019-is-andrew-wiggins-2014-nba-draft-stock-starting-to-slip)
Poor guy has no chance to succeed. :frown:
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Embiid, tho
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1899019-is-andrew-wiggins-2014-nba-draft-stock-starting-to-slip (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1899019-is-andrew-wiggins-2014-nba-draft-stock-starting-to-slip)
Poor guy has no chance to succeed. :frown:
Wiggins is a nice player, but Parker is at a whole other level, like Beasley.
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Thread title is a bust as it's no longer in question.
I decided.
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Self does it again.
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He was supposed to be Lebron like and Self mumped that up. Now we have some unrated guy hot dogging it up at hayseed state and showing him up. :frown:
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Self is the lebron of ruining careers.
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Self is the lebron of ruining careers.
Well said.
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=====WEEKEND COMPARISON=====
OGF (Our Guy Foster)
6-13, 17pts, 2 assists year AVG: 14
posterizers this year: 1
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Wiggins
4-14 14pts, 1 assits year AVG: 15.9
posterizers this year: 0
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Breakdown: Foster attempted less shots and came away with two more makes and 3 more points. In addition when the team has had to lean on him he has stood up to the challenge whereas Wiggisns hasn't been able to (though to be fair its a lot to ask of a freshman.)
Foster is a steal and making me eat my words about oscar's recruiting (so far). Hopefully he can keep up the good work and drop some shots on lil bro next week. (Thomas is making me pretty :excited: too)
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seff tho
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KU fans are now in full torch mode for Our Guy. Sad.
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This one may backfire on self. I mean if our guy doesn't go this year, he may transfer to not have to be stifled by that monster any more.
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He will get the chance to fill up the stat sheet Saturday. Even Seff let McLemore stay in to get 30 last year in the KU Super Bowl. I expect him to pull out all the stops for their most important game of the year.
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Self is doing a pretty good job at slowing down Embid as well. genius
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Self is doing a pretty good job at slowing down Embid as well. genius
Best personal year for Bill as a dream/career killer? So far, seems like it's trending that way. I mean, all said and done, Bill could have successfully suppressed signing bonuses an salaries by what? Total of $10M in the first year?
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I wonder what stretch of games joel or Andrew will miss with an ankle.
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Our Mother of Holy Meltdowns is fully underway on the Phog and it's essentially a highway of death.
With one body after another being tossed under a bus that has Titanium alloy diamond razors for wheels.
Feel pretty bad for those ku players right now.
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If Bill wasn't so distracted by his womanizing personal life, do you guys think he would be able to coach this team a little more effectively? I mean, I know they are young, but a little more focus on the team and a little less on the strange that he plans to pull any given night might actually work out better for the team.
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Self is making the team practice outside today. :sdeek:
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KU fans are now in full torch mode for Our Guy. Sad.
Wiggins is a nice player, but living up to the superstar frosh expectations that Beasley set were borderline impossible. Sad to see his fan base turn on him like this, tho.
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Self is making the team practice outside today. :sdeek:
While Self was basking in the sauna under three layers trying to get himself in better cheating trim. Give him a class of water and he'd swell up like a sponge.
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=====TWO DAY COMPARISON=====
OGF
4-8, 16pts, 3 assists year AVG: 14
posterizers this year: 1
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OGW
2-7 9pts, 1 assit year AVG: 13.2
posterizers this year: 0
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Foster is still playing pretty well. Wiggins isn't doing too bad, but he really hasn't improved.
In the end, we get to see both of Our Guys play this weekend head to head. Should be good.
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Self is making the team practice outside today. :sdeek:
While Self was basking in the sauna under three layers trying to get himself in better cheating trim. Give him a class of water and he'd swell up like a sponge.
Lol
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I have a feeling that our guy Wiggins either plays outta his mind on Saturday (20% chance) or completely shits the bed by pressing too hard to prove he's the better of the two diaper dandies (80% chance).
Meanwhile, M. Foster just keeps going along smooth and steady as ever. (100% chance)
:buh-bye:
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Foster doesn't even know who this Wiggins guy is. That's how much he doesn't GAF!
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Phog is going gaga over Frankrap. I think they've forgotten in Wiggins is.
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At what point do we take the "What if" and "?" off this thread title?
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At what point do we take the "What if" and "?" off this thread title?
The sooner the better. After Saturday's game would be a most excellent time. :)
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At what point do we take the "What if" and "?" off this thread title?
The sooner the better. After Saturday's game would be a most excellent time. :)
Fingers will be patiently waiting towards the modify feature on here, at 3 pm Saturday.
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That might be the straw that breaks Wiggins' back. He needs us. He needs someone who isn't publicly and boldly declaring him being a bust. I still have faith, guys.
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Saw some Wiggins hate rear its ugly head on Twitter last night from some of my KU followers. This is picking up steam. Poor Andy.
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Saw some Wiggins hate rear its ugly head on Twitter last night from some of my KU followers. This is picking up steam. Poor Andy.
KU buddy of mine said it is clear Wiggins is gay. He is not an Opcat guy either. Just stated it matter of factly.
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At what point do we take the "What if" and "?" off this thread title?
Thread title is a bust as it's no longer in question.
I decided.
:whistle1:
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He is the worst player on the floor a lot of times. I never bought into him and think Bill needs to play Frankamp White and Green more. Better shooters and that is what we need right now. This is stupid!! I cannot stand Wiggins!!!
<-- Email from KU fan friend of mine.
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Even though Wiggins will go for 30 on Saturday, he's still a bust and a major dissapointment.
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Saw some Wiggins hate rear its ugly head on Twitter last night from some of my KU followers. This is picking up steam. Poor Andy.
KU buddy of mine said it is clear Wiggins is gay. He is not an Opcat guy either. Just stated it matter of factly.
Jfc :curse:
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whoa
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:D
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I have to tell you guys, I was really wrong about Wiggins. I thought he was going to be good, maybe even as good as Beasley, but I was wrong.
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Guys, I'm pretty bummed out that Andy won't ever know the joy of winning in the fOOD despite ku's un-godly overall success rate in Bramlage.
:cry:
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I wonder what stretch of games joel or Andrew will miss with an ankle.
knee/back whatever
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Fran Fraschilla ?@franfraschilla 16m
Tyler Ennis is to the Freshman of Year voting as Doug McDermott is to Player of Year voting. A done deal. HUGE affect on No.1 Cuse' season.
Congrats Bill! :thumbs:
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Fran Fraschilla ?@franfraschilla 16m
Tyler Ennis is to the Freshman of Year voting as Doug McDermott is to Player of Year voting. A done deal. HUGE affect on No.1 Cuse' season.
Congrats Bill! :thumbs:
Mission accomplished for Bill.
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Guys, I'm pretty bummed out that Andy won't ever know the joy of winning in the fOOD despite ku's un-godly overall success rate in Bramlage.
:cry:
Pretty sure Josh Selby is the only KU player in the last 30 years to not win in Bramlage. Very elite company he's joining.
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Guys, I'm pretty bummed out that Andy won't ever know the joy of winning in the fOOD despite ku's un-godly overall success rate in Bramlage.
:cry:
Pretty sure Josh Selby is the only KU player in the last 30 years to not win in Bramlage. Very elite company he's joining.
Who is/was Josh Selby???
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Guys, I'm pretty bummed out that Andy won't ever know the joy of winning in the fOOD despite ku's un-godly overall success rate in Bramlage.
:cry:
Pretty sure Josh Selby is the only KU player in the last 30 years to not win in Bramlage. Very elite company he's joining.
Who is/was Josh Selby???
Apparently the #1 Point Guard in the country at one time who decided to go pro in something other than sports after high school
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Man, i've really been calling my shots lately. :gocho: but also :frown:
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Guys, I'm pretty bummed out that Andy won't ever know the joy of winning in the fOOD despite ku's un-godly overall success rate in Bramlage.
:cry:
Pretty sure Josh Selby is the only KU player in the last 30 years to not win in Bramlage. Very elite company he's joining.
Who is/was Josh Selby???
Apparently the #1 Point Guard in the country at one time who decided to go pro in something other than sports after high school
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Sounds like what happened to that Hank Henries guy.
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WTF Selby isn't even on a roster right now. rough ridin' Bill. :curse:
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Looks to me like Embiid and Wiggins are both the better players, unless all you value is ppg/100. Also, why does Wiggins get blasted for scoring 16 points on 4-12 shooting in a hostile environment, while Foster is forgiven for going 3-12 and scoring 7 points in a 26-point loss in AFH? There's a complete double standard at work here.
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Looks to me like Embiid and Wiggins are both the better players, unless all you value is ppg/100. Also, why does Wiggins get blasted for scoring 16 points on 4-12 shooting in a hostile environment, while Foster is forgiven for going 3-12 and scoring 7 points in a 26-point loss in AFH? There's a complete double standard at work here.
Those are old stats. Foster has gotten better while the other two have played like absolute beg bug feces.
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Looks to me like Embiid and Wiggins are both the better players, unless all you value is ppg/100. Also, why does Wiggins get blasted for scoring 16 points on 4-12 shooting in a hostile environment, while Foster is forgiven for going 3-12 and scoring 7 points in a 26-point loss in AFH? There's a complete double standard at work here.
Those are old stats. Foster has gotten better while the other two have played like absolute beg bug feces.
You can't be serious. Embiid and Wiggins are projected to go #1 and #2 in the NBA draft as of now.
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Looks to me like Embiid and Wiggins are both the better players, unless all you value is ppg/100. Also, why does Wiggins get blasted for scoring 16 points on 4-12 shooting in a hostile environment, while Foster is forgiven for going 3-12 and scoring 7 points in a 26-point loss in AFH? There's a complete double standard at work here.
Those are old stats. Foster has gotten better while the other two have played like absolute beg bug feces.
You can't be serious. Embiid and Wiggins are projected to go #1 and #2 in the NBA draft as of now.
They are old stats. Post is from Jan 9th dumbass.
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Looks to me like Embiid and Wiggins are both the better players, unless all you value is ppg/100. Also, why does Wiggins get blasted for scoring 16 points on 4-12 shooting in a hostile environment, while Foster is forgiven for going 3-12 and scoring 7 points in a 26-point loss in AFH? There's a complete double standard at work here.
Those are old stats. Foster has gotten better while the other two have played like absolute beg bug feces.
You can't be serious. Embiid and Wiggins are projected to go #1 and #2 in the NBA draft as of now.
Stats don't lie. You would have to be crazy to want Embiid or Wiggins instead of Foster on your team. Doubt either one of those dudes will even be lottery picks.
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Looks to me like Embiid and Wiggins are both the better players, unless all you value is ppg/100. Also, why does Wiggins get blasted for scoring 16 points on 4-12 shooting in a hostile environment, while Foster is forgiven for going 3-12 and scoring 7 points in a 26-point loss in AFH? There's a complete double standard at work here.
Those are old stats. Foster has gotten better while the other two have played like absolute beg bug feces.
You can't be serious. Embiid and Wiggins are projected to go #1 and #2 in the NBA draft as of now.
NBA drafts on potential rather than performance because the performance I saw was the two of them getting clowned by a white kid from Overland Park who all KSU fans wanted off the team until like 3 weeks ago
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Embiid will likely be a servicable backup/journeyman pro off the bench for a bunch of shitty NBA teams over the next 6-8 years, so I'll give credit where credit is due.
On the other hand, any team dumb enuff to draft our boy Andy will get what they deserve for being so dumb. He'll get eaten alive by the NBA and become another trivia question answer, much like Selby.
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Damn, Foster is a rough ridin' stud. :excited: :excited:
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Looks to me like Embiid and Wiggins are both the better players, unless all you value is ppg/100. Also, why does Wiggins get blasted for scoring 16 points on 4-12 shooting in a hostile environment, while Foster is forgiven for going 3-12 and scoring 7 points in a 26-point loss in AFH? There's a complete double standard at work here.
I don't think anyone over ever claimed Foster was "Lebron 2.0". I think that's why they are picking on Andy.. Also, Embid is apparently brittle and a FP. Also 2.0... Foster is a stud/boss
So there's your answer Beems. T's and p's bro.
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:D
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:D
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Marcus Foster is a nice little player on a nice little basketball team.
:ksu:
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I think that when Embiid is 100% he's the best post player KU has ever had.
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Here's the thing:
We're here as fans of college basketball. When folks get excited about a HS recruit it's because of what they could do for their basketball team. In that context saying one player is a better player than someone else solely because of where some jackoff thinks they'll be drafted is silly. It doesn't put basketballs in the bucket and it doesn't put W's in the W column for the respective college programs. Clearly Foster is a better college basketball player than either Wiggins or Embiid. The stats are there to prove that. And that makes me happy because I want the KSU Cats to win and be successful in college basketball. He has clearly exceeded expectations, and I think Embiid has, too. But Wiggins has not. He's not the 2nd coming of Jordan or Lebron. He's a bust in that regard. I'm not happy to say that at all, either. Poor kid never had a chance to live up to the bill and the expectations.
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It's hard to play basketball well with a bunch of bed bug bites. Nba scouts know this and are projecting that when they are out of Lawrence they will get better.
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Can anyone remember what Beaz and Durant did to this conference
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Can anyone remember what Beaz and Durant did to this conference
The action of curb stomping comes to mind.
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Wiggins is a poor mans Darko Milicic.
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Until Monday night, I thought his name was Higgins.
Does anyone know for a fact his name is Wiggins?
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Until Monday night, I thought his name was Higgins.
Does anyone know for a fact his name is Wiggins?
It's Higgins.
http://k985.com/cyclones-fall-to-jayhawks-92-81/ (http://k985.com/cyclones-fall-to-jayhawks-92-81/)
The Iowa State Cyclones (15-4, 3-4) stayed close until the Kansas Jayhawks (16-4, 7-0) were able to pull away late in the game on January 29, 2014. The Jayhawks superstar freshman Andrew Higgins scored a career-high 29 points to help KU beat ISU, 92-81.
:lol: at the superstar part
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Leave it to the University of Kansas to misspell his name on his jersey and try to confuse everyone.
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Can anyone remember what Beaz and Durant did to this conference
and Griff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxwlkye9sI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxwlkye9sI)
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Can anyone remember what Beaz and Durant did to this conference
and Griff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxwlkye9sI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxwlkye9sI)
forgot about longar longar
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Leave it to the University of Kansas to misspell his name on his jersey and try to confuse everyone.
Wait, is this Emerson Biggins? :surprised:
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So Marcus Foster is just as good as the projected 1st and 2nd NBA picks? oscar Weber took an unranked 3* athlete and did that. Self "did that" with top 10 recruits. I thought Self was supposed to be good?
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So Marcus Foster is just as good as the projected 1st and 2nd NBA picks? oscar Weber took an unranked 3* athlete and did that. Self "did that" with top 10 recruits. I thought Self was supposed to be good?
oscar WEBER > BILL SELFISH
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Serious question, any shot Foster could be Big 12 FOTY if Embiid stays hurt and Andy continues to be meh? I mean, no, right? RIGHT?
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Serious question, any shot Foster could be Big 12 FOTY if Embiid stays hurt and Andy continues to be meh? I mean, no, right? RIGHT?
NO! :frown:
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So Marcus Foster is just as good as the projected 1st and 2nd NBA picks? oscar Weber took an unranked 3* athlete and did that. Self "did that" with top 10 recruits. I thought Self was supposed to be good?
You didn't build that!
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I think that when Embiid is 100% he's the best post player KU has ever had.
embiid is the real deal. andy should be giving him a handjob every night because there's no way andrew would have his numbers if he had to fight though double and triple teams like foster does.
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Big 12 Conference
all-kenpom.com
Rank Player
1 Joel Embiid, Kansas
2 Andrew Wiggins, Kansas
3 Marcus Smart, Oklahoma St.
4 Melvin Ejim, Iowa St.
5 DeAndre Kane, Iowa St.
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So Marcus Foster is just as good as the projected 1st and 2nd NBA picks? oscar Weber took an unranked 3* athlete and did that. Self "did that" with top 10 recruits. I thought Self was supposed to be good?
No. Why on Earth would you think that?
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Marcus Foster is a nice little player on a nice little basketball team.
:ksu:
Yep. He is one of the 10 best Big 12 players as a frosh. And he will be here 3 more years. Will Take
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Big 12 Conference
all-kenpom.com
Rank Player
1 Joel Embiid, Kansas
2 Andrew Wiggins, Kansas
3 Marcus Smart, Oklahoma St.
4 Melvin Ejim, Iowa St.
5 DeAndre Kane, Iowa St.
Any last with Smart on it this season isn't very smart.
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So Marcus Foster is just as good as the projected 1st and 2nd NBA picks? oscar Weber took an unranked 3* athlete and did that. Self "did that" with top 10 recruits. I thought Self was supposed to be good?
No. Why on Earth would you think that?
:confused:
Because his numbers are comparable to theirs.
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So Marcus Foster is just as good as the projected 1st and 2nd NBA picks? oscar Weber took an unranked 3* athlete and did that. Self "did that" with top 10 recruits. I thought Self was supposed to be good?
No. Why on Earth would you think that?
:confused:
Because his numbers are comparable to theirs.
I'm not trying to throw my hat into this discussion, but it all depends on which numbers you're talking about, which numbers you're ignoring, and the utility of comparing numbers laterally (oxford comma intended).
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KU has the top two picks in the draft and still lost to "lil bro".
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KU has the top two picks in the draft and still lost to "lil bro".
What on Earth is Self doing?
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KU has the top two picks in the draft and still lost to "lil bro".
What on Earth is Self doing?
Trying to get them to come back for another couple of years...its worked before :dunno:
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KU has the top two picks in the draft and still lost to "lil bro".
change your dumbass signature, dumbass
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KU has the top two picks in the draft and still lost to "lil bro".
change your dumbass signature, dumbass
No, he should leave it. It's a constant reminder of what *could* be ahead.
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KU has the top two picks in the draft and still lost to "lil bro".
No, he should leave it. It's a constant reminder of what *could* be ahead.
change your dumbass signature, dumbass
Life lesson here, folks. In the course of our lives, and often in the wake of unwanted developments, a person may become consumed by the possible - even likely - deterioration of our mortal coils. But if and when that day may come, would you want to arrive there knowing you sold out the good times, wasted them for fear of the struggles which were then only mere possibilities? No, no, you enjoy the present goodness and in the future let come what may. We exist within the flat plain between two spools, one winding up the past and one unwinding the future. No spoilerz!
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Marcus Foster is a nice little player on a nice little basketball team.
:ksu:
Yep. He is one of the 10 best Big 12 players as a frosh. And he will be here 3 more years. Will Take
Am I the only one who worries about Foster leaving early? Not this year but he's awfully good so after his soph or junior year wouldn't be out of the question.
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He's too small and his handles aren't good enough
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He's too small and his handles aren't good enough
Foster? If so, I guess that's a good thing... :confused:
Edit- I should add that I'm really not good at grading basketball players.
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He's too small and his handles aren't good enough
Foster? If so, I guess that's a good thing... :confused:
Edit- I should add that I'm really not good at grading basketball players.
He is 6'2 and he is not a point guard. That is about 3-4 inches shorter than a normal shooting guard in the league. Kinda similar to Pullen being only 6'0. It's tough to be a 6'0 point guard and basicly unheard of to be a 6'2 shooting guard in the NBA. So for now, I think it is a safe bet that Foster is here all 4 years
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My favorite talking point for players that struggle (Like Wiggins) is the "hidden numbers" and "the things that don't show up on the stat sheet" talking point. :love:
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My favorite talking point for players that struggle (Like Wiggins) is the "hidden numbers" and "the things that don't show up on the stat sheet" talking point. :love:
Wiggins' numbers are pretty good, and he's within striking distance of KU's all-time scoring record for a freshman.
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Raw stats:
Wiggins - 16 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 1.6 apg, 1.0 spg, 43.5% fg, 34.9% 3pt, 74.8% ft
Foster - 15 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 2.1 apg, 0.6 spg, 42.7% fg, 38.8% 3pt, 70.2% ft
:dunno:
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Beems, have you spotted my new sock yet, on the phog?
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Durant and Beasley really ruined the expectation people have for highly rated freshmen in this conference. Wiggins if fine, he's just no Durant/Beasley.
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Durant and Beasley really ruined the expectation people have for highly rated freshmen in this conference. Wiggins if fine, he's just no Durant/Beasley.
Neither Durant nor Beas labeled Andy the next Lebron. They also weren't the ones to say that Andy was going to be better than Durant or Beas. That was ESPN and KU.
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Durant and Beasley really ruined the expectation people have for highly rated freshmen in this conference. Wiggins if fine, he's just no Durant/Beasley.
Neither Durant nor Beas labeled Andy the next Lebron. They also weren't the ones to say that Andy was going to be better than Durant or Beas. That was ESPN and KU.
Link?
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Fans not the school. no link, just sports radio all summer/fall.
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KU has the top two picks in the draft and still lost to "lil bro".
you forget to mention the 86-60 beatdown the month before
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We don't have one NBA player on our team, let alone multiple lottery picks. Nice split there guys :ROFL:
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We don't have one NBA player on our team, let alone multiple lottery picks. Nice split there guys :ROFL:
This post is equivalent to the "O-ver-ra-ted" chant.
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KU has the top two picks in the draft and still lost to "lil bro".
you forget to mention the 86-60 beatdown the month before
So what you're saying is that KU's program is going downhill fast?
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Durant and Beasley really ruined the expectation people have for highly rated freshmen in this conference. Wiggins if fine, he's just no Durant/Beasley.
Neither Durant nor Beas labeled Andy the next Lebron. They also weren't the ones to say that Andy was going to be better than Durant or Beas. That was ESPN and KU.
And Sports Illustrated.
Wiggins is a fine player, and above average for a freshman player. It's just that he doesn't come close to living up to the hype. Wilt redefined basketball. Beasley and Durant put up outrageous numbers. We were told that Wiggins was supposed to do that stuff, and he just hasn't. At all.
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i can't believe SI would do that to the poor kid
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http://www.businessinsider.com/andrew-wiggins-next-lebron-2013-5
Article titled: Why People Say Andrew Wiggins is the Next Lebron
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http://www.businessinsider.com/andrew-wiggins-next-lebron-2013-5
Article titled: Why People Say Andrew Wiggins is the Next Lebron
He's tall, he's got skills, he can dribble, shoot, dunk. He plays defense. This young man can do it all, folks!
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I'm sure it's been discussed before, but what if Andy lost all of his talent when he cut his hair? You know, a Samson type situation. :dunno:
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maybe he shouldn't have cut his hair
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Here's another LBJ comparo:
http://www.gq.com/sports/entertainment/sports/201311/andrew-wiggins-nba-draft-kansas-jayhawks#slide=1
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http://www.businessinsider.com/andrew-wiggins-next-lebron-2013-5
Article titled: Why People Say Andrew Wiggins is the Next Lebron
He's tall, he's got skills, he can dribble, shoot, dunk. He plays defense. This young man can do it all, folks!
Except take control of a game.
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It's a shame the media ruined Wiggins before he even had a chance
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I wish Lebron would have gone to college just so we could see how amazing he would have been against that competition.
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We don't have one NBA player on our team, let alone multiple lottery picks. Nice split there guys :ROFL:
northern Colorado must have a roster full of lottery picks then.....
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Tim just can't help himself. This loss is marinating and taking over his dome.
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Tim just can't help himself. This loss is marinating and taking over his dome.
not really, Kstate outplayed KU, it's as simple as that. KU didn't deserve to win
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Most teams that lose a game don't deserve to win.
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Most teams that lose a game don't deserve to win.
lmao
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Most teams that lose a game don't deserve to win.
lmao
You think that most teams that lose deserve to win?
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Most teams that lose a game don't deserve to win.
lmao
You think that most teams that lose deserve to win?
I am honestly saying this in the nicest way to you but, nobody gives a rough ridin' crap what timhawk has to say.
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Most teams that lose a game don't deserve to win.
lmao
You think that most teams that lose deserve to win?
if they played really good and barely lose yes they do. if they play like crap and lose then no they don't. need me to further explain it? btw....4-48 last 52...ouch.
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Most teams that lose a game don't deserve to win.
lmao
You think that most teams that lose deserve to win?
if they played really good and barely lose yes they do. if they play like crap and lose then no they don't. need me to further explain it? btw....4-48 last 52...ouch.
:flush:
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It's hard to have a high quality basketball conversation w/ a joco grad with an associates degree and never actually tried for the bachelors at so said school he goes for. :ROFL:
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It's hard to have a high quality basketball conversation w/ a joco grad with an associates degree and never actually tried for the bachelors at so said school he goes for. :ROFL:
never attended JOCO, keep grasping.
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Feel bad for Andy. :(
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Most teams that lose a game don't deserve to win.
"most"
good example- KU @ ISU -2013. ISU deserved.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/andrew-wiggins-next-lebron-2013-5
Article titled: Why People Say Andrew Wiggins is the Next Lebron
He's tall, he's got skills, he can dribble, shoot, dunk. He plays defense. This young man can do it all, folks!
Well, except for the dribbling and shooting part. That's 2 for 4 on skills, if you count dunking as skill (pro tip: its not).
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Tim just can't help himself. This loss is marinating and taking over his dome.
not really, Kstate outplayed KU, it's as simple as that. KU didn't deserve to win
Beep Beep Beep
Is the sound of a cememt truck backing up
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I must admit, Andy appears to be pretty good at shooting freethrows. His tip-in game is also very good.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/andrew-wiggins-next-lebron-2013-5
Article titled: Why People Say Andrew Wiggins is the Next Lebron
He's tall, he's got skills, he can dribble, shoot, dunk. He plays defense. This young man can do it all, folks!
Well, except for the dribbling and shooting part. That's 2 for 4 on skills, if you count dunking as skill (pro tip: its not).
I bet you're fun at parties.
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Feel bad for Andy. :(
This. He won't even get to live in the Kentucky Light dorm.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/andrew-wiggins-next-lebron-2013-5
Article titled: Why People Say Andrew Wiggins is the Next Lebron
He's tall, he's got skills, he can dribble, shoot, dunk. He plays defense. This young man can do it all, folks!
Well, except for the dribbling and shooting part. That's 2 for 4 on skills, if you count dunking as skill (pro tip: its not).
I bet you're fun at parties.
Well, I'm not gonna bring you more kool-aid, if that's what you're asking
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Should teams immediately try to Hack-a-Wiggins? Sure worked out for us
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Should teams immediately try to Hack-a-Wiggins? Sure worked out for us
Only if you want to wake the sleeper that is his free throw game!
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if wiggy went to memphis or kentucky he'd be averaging 24 and 10 easily.
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Guys, the draft projections I've looked at have Embiid #1 overall, like across the board. Now, its obvious he's hurt and Self is doing the right thing by sitting him out today. Thing is fellas, I don't wanna see him lose that #1 draft spot. It looks to me like he could only hurt his NBA draft status by playing. He just needs to shut it down and get healthy and declare himself pro, like, right now.
Can anyone think of a logical reason why this super stud should ever play college hoops again?
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Guys, the draft projections I've looked at have Embiid #1 overall, like across the board. Now, its obvious he's hurt and Self is doing the right thing by sitting him out today. Thing is fellas, I don't wanna see him lose that #1 draft spot. It looks to me like he could only hurt his NBA draft status by playing. He just needs to shut it down and get healthy and declare himself pro, like, right now.
Can anyone think of a logical reason why this super stud should ever play college hoops again?
Wishing for Wiggins to be a bust, and now for Embiid to be injured for the rest of the season? Quality stuff here at goEMAW.com.
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Guys, the draft projections I've looked at have Embiid #1 overall, like across the board. Now, its obvious he's hurt and Self is doing the right thing by sitting him out today. Thing is fellas, I don't wanna see him lose that #1 draft spot. It looks to me like he could only hurt his NBA draft status by playing. He just needs to shut it down and get healthy and declare himself pro, like, right now.
Can anyone think of a logical reason why this super stud should ever play college hoops again?
Wishing for Wiggins to be a bust, and now for Embiid to be injured for the rest of the season? Quality stuff here at goEMAW.com.
He never said that. :nono:
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Guys, the draft projections I've looked at have Embiid #1 overall, like across the board. Now, its obvious he's hurt and Self is doing the right thing by sitting him out today. Thing is fellas, I don't wanna see him lose that #1 draft spot. It looks to me like he could only hurt his NBA draft status by playing. He just needs to shut it down and get healthy and declare himself pro, like, right now.
Can anyone think of a logical reason why this super stud should ever play college hoops again?
Wishing for Wiggins to be a bust, and now for Embiid to be injured for the rest of the season? Quality stuff here at goEMAW.com.
I wish the opposite. I don't want him to play and worsen his injury. I'm applauding Self's move today and hoping they realize what this kid has in front of him is too valuable to gamble with. I want him to be healthy on draft day.
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Guys, the draft projections I've looked at have Embiid #1 overall, like across the board. Now, its obvious he's hurt and Self is doing the right thing by sitting him out today. Thing is fellas, I don't wanna see him lose that #1 draft spot. It looks to me like he could only hurt his NBA draft status by playing. He just needs to shut it down and get healthy and declare himself pro, like, right now.
Can anyone think of a logical reason why this super stud should ever play college hoops again?
Wishing for Wiggins to be a bust, and now for Embiid to be injured for the rest of the season? Quality stuff here at goEMAW.com.
I wish the opposite. I don't want him to play and worsen his injury. I'm applauding Self's move today and hoping they realize what this kid has in front of him is too valuable to gamble with. I want him to be healthy on draft day.
BS.
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As far as I can tell, the only person wishing harm on another player is Embeed. That much is clear by his conduct. Just a little karma that he got hurt.
Wiggins is hyper athletic, but his skillset needs development. I could see the Kings or the N.O. team (Seagulls?) drafting him, they both seem to really suck at the draft.
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Guys, the draft projections I've looked at have Embiid #1 overall, like across the board. Now, its obvious he's hurt and Self is doing the right thing by sitting him out today. Thing is fellas, I don't wanna see him lose that #1 draft spot. It looks to me like he could only hurt his NBA draft status by playing. He just needs to shut it down and get healthy and declare himself pro, like, right now.
Can anyone think of a logical reason why this super stud should ever play college hoops again?
Wishing for Wiggins to be a bust, and now for Embiid to be injured for the rest of the season? Quality stuff here at goEMAW.com.
I wish the opposite. I don't want him to play and worsen his injury. I'm applauding Self's move today and hoping they realize what this kid has in front of him is too valuable to gamble with. I want him to be healthy on draft day.
BS.
So, your stance is to play the kid despite the fact that he's obviously hurt?
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Guys, the draft projections I've looked at have Embiid #1 overall, like across the board. Now, its obvious he's hurt and Self is doing the right thing by sitting him out today. Thing is fellas, I don't wanna see him lose that #1 draft spot. It looks to me like he could only hurt his NBA draft status by playing. He just needs to shut it down and get healthy and declare himself pro, like, right now.
Can anyone think of a logical reason why this super stud should ever play college hoops again?
Wishing for Wiggins to be a bust, and now for Embiid to be injured for the rest of the season? Quality stuff here at goEMAW.com.
I wish the opposite. I don't want him to play and worsen his injury. I'm applauding Self's move today and hoping they realize what this kid has in front of him is too valuable to gamble with. I want him to be healthy on draft day.
BS.
So, your stance is to play the kid despite the fact that he's obviously hurt?
No.
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Guys, the draft projections I've looked at have Embiid #1 overall, like across the board. Now, its obvious he's hurt and Self is doing the right thing by sitting him out today. Thing is fellas, I don't wanna see him lose that #1 draft spot. It looks to me like he could only hurt his NBA draft status by playing. He just needs to shut it down and get healthy and declare himself pro, like, right now.
Can anyone think of a logical reason why this super stud should ever play college hoops again?
Wishing for Wiggins to be a bust, and now for Embiid to be injured for the rest of the season? Quality stuff here at goEMAW.com.
I wish the opposite. I don't want him to play and worsen his injury. I'm applauding Self's move today and hoping they realize what this kid has in front of him is too valuable to gamble with. I want him to be healthy on draft day.
BS.
So, your stance is to play the kid despite the fact that he's obviously hurt?
No.
How close to fully healed (100%) would he need to be in your mind for him to play come tourney time?
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http://www.businessinsider.com/andrew-wiggins-next-lebron-2013-5
Article titled: Why People Say Andrew Wiggins is the Next Lebron
He's tall, he's got skills, he can dribble, shoot, dunk. He plays defense. This young man can do it all, folks!
Wiggins is shooting 42% from 2pt in the Big 12. For a guy who has the ability to get to the rim and gets some easy looks off KU fast breaks, that isn't that good. I think it was Tom Keegan that said on the year, take away dunks (not layups) he is only 40% on 2 pt shots.
35% from 3pt and 75% from FT on the year.... those numbers are fine considering he is not a great outside shooter.
I think because of his length, he is a good defender but ave only 1.0 stl and .8 blk is a little surprising considering how athletic he is with those hops
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http://www.businessinsider.com/andrew-wiggins-next-lebron-2013-5
Article titled: Why People Say Andrew Wiggins is the Next Lebron
He's tall, he's got skills, he can dribble, shoot, dunk. He plays defense. This young man can do it all, folks!
Wiggins is shooting 42% from 2pt in the Big 12. For a guy who has the ability to get to the rim and gets some easy looks off KU fast breaks, that isn't that good. I think it was Tom Keegan that said on the year, take away dunks (not layups) he is only 40% on 2 pt shots.
35% from 3pt and 75% from FT on the year.... those numbers are fine considering he is not a great outside shooter.
I think because of his length, he is a good defender but ave only 1.0 stl and .8 blk is a little surprising considering how athletic he is with those hops
I was just making fun of that fluff piece. Wiggins will be a fine NBA player but not a flashy superstar.
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Guys, the draft projections I've looked at have Embiid #1 overall, like across the board. Now, its obvious he's hurt and Self is doing the right thing by sitting him out today. Thing is fellas, I don't wanna see him lose that #1 draft spot. It looks to me like he could only hurt his NBA draft status by playing. He just needs to shut it down and get healthy and declare himself pro, like, right now.
Can anyone think of a logical reason why this super stud should ever play college hoops again?
Wishing for Wiggins to be a bust, and now for Embiid to be injured for the rest of the season? Quality stuff here at goEMAW.com.
I wish the opposite. I don't want him to play and worsen his injury. I'm applauding Self's move today and hoping they realize what this kid has in front of him is too valuable to gamble with. I want him to be healthy on draft day.
BS.
So, your stance is to play the kid despite the fact that he's obviously hurt?
No.
Why would I not want Embiid to be healthy on draft day? :confused: Beems I guess if he's healthy he could play in like the Sweet 16, but before then it would be stupid
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So Wiggy had 19 pts, 6 reb, 2 ast, 2st and 2blk tonight. Solid game. Over on the phog, they are acting like it was one of the best games by a KU player in years.
I meen 6'1 guard Juwan Staten ave 18pt 6 reb 6 ast. Wiggins gets 19-6-2.... and he is deemed "A Beast" by the Phoggies...LOL
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So Wiggy had 19 pts, 6 reb, 2 ast, 2st and 2blk tonight. Solid game. Over on the phog, they are acting like it was one of the best games by a KU player in years.
I meen 6'1 guard Juwan Staten ave 18pt 6 reb 6 ast. Wiggins gets 19-6-2.... and he is deemed "A Beast" by the Phoggies...LOL
Next LeBron tho
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So Wiggy had 19 pts, 6 reb, 2 ast, 2st and 2blk tonight. Solid game. Over on the phog, they are acting like it was one of the best games by a KU player in years.
I meen 6'1 guard Juwan Staten ave 18pt 6 reb 6 ast. Wiggins gets 19-6-2.... and he is deemed "A Beast" by the Phoggies...LOL
I'm happy that they're beginning to accept him.
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So Wiggy had 19 pts, 6 reb, 2 ast, 2st and 2blk tonight. Solid game. Over on the phog, they are acting like it was one of the best games by a KU player in years.
I meen 6'1 guard Juwan Staten ave 18pt 6 reb 6 ast. Wiggins gets 19-6-2.... and he is deemed "A Beast" by the Phoggies...LOL
Haven't read the Phog, but he was clutch and is the reason we won (although we didn't really deserve to, butt eff it).
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Wiggins would look terrible in a turtleneck.
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So Wiggy had 19 pts, 6 reb, 2 ast, 2st and 2blk tonight. Solid game. Over on the phog, they are acting like it was one of the best games by a KU player in years.
I meen 6'1 guard Juwan Staten ave 18pt 6 reb 6 ast. Wiggins gets 19-6-2.... and he is deemed "A Beast" by the Phoggies...LOL
Haven't read the Phog, but he was clutch and is the reason we won (although we didn't really deserve to, butt eff it).
I like and respect the honesty of Sprac's last post.
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KU had 53 possessions yesterday, which is the lowest in the Bill Self era. Tech took the air out of the ball and didn't shoot it until there were less than five seconds left on the shot clock. There weren't many opportunities for Wiggins to put up huge numbers, but he gave us his best overall game in a Jayhawk uniform and made a couple clutch plays down the stretch. LOL at how many of you clowns are actively rooting for this kid to fail.
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Who's rooting against him? The phogets and ESPN compared him to Lebron, Danny, etc. If you wanna play that hype, you gotta live with that hype. I'm happy tech was his super bowl tho.
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KU had 53 possessions yesterday, which is the lowest in the Bill Self era.
Good post.
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Wiggins is getting pretty close to MacGruder numbers
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Wiggins is getting pretty close to MacGruder numbers
Great post.
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Wiggins is getting pretty close to MacGruder numbers
Great post.
McGruder averaged 3.9 ppg as a freshman.
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Wiggins is getting pretty close to MacGruder numbers
Great post.
McGruder averaged 3.9 ppg as a freshman.
because our roster was so loaded with studs that we didn't need to rely on a freshman
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Wiggins is getting pretty close to MacGruder numbers
Great post.
McGruder averaged 3.9 ppg as a freshman.
No one ever called McGruder "the next LeBron."
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hibbiq knows those were quality points.
Wiggins is getting pretty close to MacGruder numbers
Great post.
McGruder averaged 3.9 ppg as a freshman.
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Wiggins is getting pretty close to MacGruder numbers
Great post.
McGruder averaged 3.9 ppg as a freshman.
No one ever called McGruder "the next LeBron."
i called him McORebs
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Wiggins is getting pretty close to MacGruder numbers
Great post.
McGruder averaged 3.9 ppg as a freshman.
No one ever called McGruder "the next LeBron."
i called him McORebs
I miss that. :love:
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Wiggins is getting pretty close to MacGruder numbers
Great post.
McGruder averaged 3.9 ppg as a freshman.
No one ever called McGruder "the next LeBron."
What does that have to do with anything?
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Wiggins is getting pretty close to MacGruder numbers
Great post.
McGruder averaged 3.9 ppg as a freshman.
No one ever called McGruder "the next LeBron."
What does that have to do with anything?
What does McGruder avg 3.9 ppg as a FR have to do with anything?
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Wiggins is getting pretty close to MacGruder numbers
Great post.
McGruder averaged 3.9 ppg as a freshman.
because our roster was so loaded with studs that we didn't need to rely on a freshman
This. He hardly saw the floor
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Ben Maclemore had a better freshman year than this fellow Wiggins.
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LOL at how many of you clowns are actively rooting for this kid to fail.
I personally don't want him to fail. If Ku was 7-5 and Wiggins was ave 20 and 10, I would be a lot happier
My point is he put up 19pt-6reb-2ast. I don't care how many poss. there were tonight. I have seen studs put those numbers up in less than a half. Parker for Duke is also a 6'8 talented freshman forward. Over his last 9 games he is putting up 20.1 pts and 11.3 reb and has combined for 3 blocks/steals per game.
Since Jan 1, Wiggins is only a 46.1% 2pt and 34.6% 3pt shooter, and over that time his 16-6-2 averages are about the same as his full season ave. Add in under 2.0 combined steals and blocks, I would say his stats are good. A long way from great .
But I am glad for you and the other hawk fans that his 19-6-2 and last second hoop was his best overall game for KU. It helped you beat a team that won't make the tourney by 1 pt. Grats!
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The Parker v. Wiggins comparison isn't really fair any more.
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Randle at Kentucky is also outplaying our boy Andy at 16 & 10 per game and he's doing it from a role where he doesn't get near as many touches.
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I happened to catch Steve Kerr on the Herd today at lunch and he said this year's draft looks to be the weakest it has been in the last 10 years... Parker is the only player in this class that come in and contribute 20 a game... Hopefully guys like Wiggins can figure it out in the D league and become nice players someday.
Sorry, Andy.
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From the next Lebron to this all in about 4 months. Congrats on another 1 Bill :thumbsup:
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Wiggins is getting pretty close to MacGruder numbers
Great post.
McGruder averaged 3.9 ppg as a freshman.
The development kids get at KSU is simply amazing. Could you guys imagine if Bill was able to replicate like even 20% of that?
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Parker is approaching Beasley levels of excellence. Wiggins just isn't cut from the same cloth
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Parker is approaching Beasley levels of excellence.
There's no way you honestly beaslieve this.
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Parker is approaching Beasley levels of excellence.
There's no way you honestly beaslieve this.
He's not there yet but he could if he starts scoring more and dominates the boards.
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Has ku ever had a player as good as Beasley?
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Has ku ever had a player as good as Beasley?
No. Well, I guess it depends what you mean, exactly.
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Of course, KU has had plenty of NBA bench riders
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please's reply button works :excited:
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Andy Wiggins on the road vs the good teams in the Big 12 (Isu, OU, Tex, Ksu and Osu)
20-65 FGs ...... 33.1 eFG
3-19 3pt (15.8%)
17- 46 2pt (36.9%)
12.8 pts per game
6 asst
17 TOs
:sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek:.... are those Lebron, I meen Big 12 player of the year numbers or what????
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KU, you're star player. Woof.
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Every time I watch ku play Wiggins is pretty unimpressive, so the announcers are usually relegated to talking about how great his "jumpiness" is and how he has a really high ceiling.
I wonder what his numbers would look like if he didn't get to shoot two every time he did a spin move, or if they actually called his "quick first step" travelling like they do for everyone else.
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Andy Wiggins on the road vs the good teams in the Big 12 (Isu, OU, Tex, Ksu and Osu)
20-65 FGs ...... 33.1 eFG
3-19 3pt (15.8%)
17- 46 2pt (36.9%)
12.8 pts per game
6 asst
17 TOs
:sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek:.... are those Lebron, I meen Big 12 player of the year numbers or what????
Other than his ppg being padded from ft line, those are bench numbers. Do the same line for Nino, DJamer, or omari.
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He was only 4-13 FGs at Baylor but he actually had a few asst. in that game. Still 24-78 on FGs against teams who could be tourney bound. Making 1/3 of your 2pt shots and about 1/5 of his 3pt tries.... Wow
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He was only 4-13 FGs at Baylor but he actually had a few asst. in that game. Still 24-78 on FGs against teams who could be tourney bound. Making 1/3 of your 2pt shots and about 1/5 of his 3pt tries.... Wow
Wait until NCAA tourney time and sphincter muscles tighten up. The rim will look smaller than a shrunken Naismith Peach basket to Andy. :ohno:
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http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2014/03/06/sports/ncaabasketball/ap-bkc-t25-kansas-wiggins.html?ref=sports&_r=0
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Is anybody else super sad that Andy is having a pretty shitty game today in what could likely be his last outing in a jayhawk uniform?
:cry:
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He needs to focus on his strength - drive wildly, draw whistle and shoot FTs
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He needs to focus on his strength - drive wildly, draw whistle and shoot FTs
I think he tried that once, but these non-big12 refs realized immediately that he starts all those out of control drives with a travel.
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He needs to focus on his strength - drive wildly, draw whistle and shoot FTs
Enjoy it while you can, Andy. Life will be drastically diff in a few months. Ku fans think this kid was a bust in college, wait until he can't even draw a foul in the Association.
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Wiggins and Embiid were NOT busts, they were totally worth it, and they were NOT wasted by KU.....KU got another conference title, and that's enough for KU fans to be very, very happy with this year.
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Andy's final game in a ku uniform:
1-6 fgs
0-2 3 pt fgs
4 rebounds
1 assist
1 steal
2 blocks
4 turnovers
4 pts
A veritable microcosm of the season...
:buh-bye:
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Embiid def was not a bust. Kid overcame blatant racism and continued to learn the game and now looks to be a higher pick than the next 'bron. Good for him. Pretty much the American dream.
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Wiggins and Embiid were NOT busts, they were totally worth it, and they were NOT wasted by KU.....KU got another conference title, and that's enough for KU fans to be very, very happy with this year.
I would have effing loved to have had them in purple for one year.
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Wiggins and Embiid were NOT busts, they were totally worth it, and they were NOT wasted by KU.....KU got another conference title, and that's enough for KU fans to be very, very happy with this year.
exactly, t-shirt sales were still at their normal levels, everyone wins
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i am not happy with wiggins
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Guys I'm hearing Andy and Joe are both coming back to fix this hullabaloo next year.
:billdance:
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I'm just glad we finally answered the op's question. First 10 loss season in like a decade for KU.
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"It wasn't an easy decision because the fans showed me so much love here," said Wiggins, choking up briefly during a news conference at Allen Fieldhouse. "I just wish I had more time. College goes by so fast. I can see why people stay all four years."
:lol:
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/story/_/id/10704493/andrew-wiggins-draft-bound-1-season-kansas-jayhawks
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"It wasn't an easy decision because the fans showed me so much love here," said Wiggins, choking up briefly during a news conference at Allen Fieldhouse. "I just wish I had more time. College goes by so fast. I can see why people stay all four years."
:lol:
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/story/_/id/10704493/andrew-wiggins-draft-bound-1-season-kansas-jayhawks
KU fans are ripping him for this
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"It wasn't an easy decision because the fans showed me so much love here," said Wiggins, choking up briefly during a news conference at Allen Fieldhouse. "I just wish I had more time. College goes by so fast. I can see why people stay all four years."
:lol:
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/story/_/id/10704493/andrew-wiggins-draft-bound-1-season-kansas-jayhawks
KU fans are ripping him for this
Play for the name on the FRONT of the jersey.
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What is the deal with Wiggins' involvement in stabbing like half a dozen people in a Toronto nightclub? Would seem pretty stupid at this point in his career. But, as we all know, everything that comes out of that drug and alcohol factory to the east pretty much turns to a criminal life. Hopefully he takes some time to get his life back in order. T's and P's Andrew
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i doubt he was very much involved, wiggins is a good egg.
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Everyone, party up up in this thread y'all!!!!
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Grats, TSC friend!
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I just can't believe that having the #1 overall and #3 pick in the draft can only get you to the round of 32. :confused:
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I just can't believe that having the #1 overall and #3 pick in the draft can only get you to the round of 32. :confused:
It takes more than 2 fingers to make a fist, especially when 1 of your 2 fingers is broken.
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I just can't believe that having the #1 overall and #3 pick in the draft can only get you to the round of 32. :confused:
It takes more than 2 fingers to make a fist, especially when 1 of your 2 fingers is broken.
Quit punching walls, Bill.
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But, for reals, this is great. Super happy for you guys.
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dossier discussion just took place w/ cleveland owner
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But, for reals, this is great. Super happy for you guys.
Yes! Definitely!
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first and 3rd over all and no final four.
sheesh
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D. Parkins on The Drive took a $500 bet with a Tarheel fan that called in...Caller bet him that neither Wiggins or Embiid would average over 13 ppg in a season for the duration of their rookie contracts...Parkins took the bet in a second, the caller seemed pretty confident also. :dunno: who wins?
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'grats and TSC everyone. :tsc:
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D. Parkins on The Drive took a $500 bet with a Tarheel fan that called in...Caller bet him that neither Wiggins or Embiid would average over 13 ppg in a season for the duration of their rookie contracts...Parkins took the bet in a second, the caller seemed pretty confident also. :dunno: who wins?
The winners here are obvsly KU, Wiggins, and Embiid. Draft picks, press coverage, and all up in the NC heads half a country away.
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:sdeek: JFC GPC!
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pffft, idiots don't know anything about haute fashion. Granny chic is the thing, man...
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What if WackyCat is a moron?
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2333702-andrew-wiggins-is-the-nba-rookie-of-the-year-frontrunner-by-a-mile (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2333702-andrew-wiggins-is-the-nba-rookie-of-the-year-frontrunner-by-a-mile)
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/72232/andrew-wiggins-is-nbas-rising-star (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/72232/andrew-wiggins-is-nbas-rising-star)
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#blessed
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#blessed
wut
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#obsessed
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:emawkid:
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Wiggins has been cold recently, but he has certainly mushed the haters in their fat, eggy faces this season.
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This thread was made to troll KU fans, which it certainly got it's run. I'm happy for the kid. I'm sorry you took this thread serious, beems. :frown:
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Come on now, it's perfectly normal to bump a thread from 8 months ago that nobody even remembers existing in the first place.
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http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/02/11/7-reasons-andrew-wiggins-should-win-nba-rookie-of-the-year/
(http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/02/11/7-reasons-andrew-wiggins-should-win-nba-rookie-of-the-year/)
Wiggins, At 19, Has Been Timberwolves’ Best Player
It’s pretty rare for a rookie to become a starter in the NBA, but Wiggins has started every game with the Timberwolves in his first professional season. He’s living up to the hype, averaging more than 15 points and four rebounds per game. He hasn’t been afraid of the moment, meeting lofty expectations for a teenager.
:love: :love: :love:
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Wiggins has gotten a lot better as the season has gone on. He also benefits from picks 2 and 3 being out for the season. Would've been embarrassing if he didn't win it.
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master troll job
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It's a story as old as time. Self gets a blue chipper tries to destroy their dreams of NBA glory by holding them in forced labor in Lawrence for three to four years. Luckily Andrew was able to escape in time to salvage his greatness. Good for Andrew :thumbs:
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It's a story as old as time. Self gets a blue chipper tries to destroy their dreams of NBA glory by holding them in forced labor in Lawrence for three to four years. Luckily Andrew was able to escape in time to salvage his greatness. Good for Andrew :thumbs:
This.
At least Andy didn't fall for that monster's crap
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This place is just dripping with butthurt. Ba da bop bah bah... I'm lovin 'it!
:love: :love: :love:
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I am Andy's #1 fan.
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http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/02/11/7-reasons-andrew-wiggins-should-win-nba-rookie-of-the-year/
(http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/02/11/7-reasons-andrew-wiggins-should-win-nba-rookie-of-the-year/)
Wiggins, At 19, Has Been Timberwolves’ Best Player
It’s pretty rare for a rookie to become a starter in the NBA, but Wiggins has started every game with the Timberwolves in his first professional season. He’s living up to the hype, averaging more than 15 points and four rebounds per game. He hasn’t been afraid of the moment, meeting lofty expectations for a teenager.
:love: :love: :love:
:lol: :buh-bye:
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Funny that KU fans bitched about his level of effort and tossed him under the bus for his year there. True plantation mentality.
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Self had the rookie of the year on his roster and couldn't make it to the Sweet 16?