goemaw.com
TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: Lefty on October 23, 2013, 06:47:30 AM
-
Not yet at least. If Daniel Sams was a true winner and 'the man', wouldn't he have found a way to beat Okie St and/or Baylor? Answer this with some thought behind it, would a Sophomore Collin Klein or even a Beasley have found a way to beat Okie St or Baylor? I think they would have. And for that, I'm not sold on Dan Sams as our future stud QB. Future slot or Harper yes.
-
Yep, if he was a "true winner" he wouldn't lose a single game. Just like Ell Roberson his sophomore year.
-
I enjoy the GPC threads calling Josh Freeman a loser because he has only won like 1/3 of his 61 NFL starts at QB. Collin Klein would never lose that many.
-
If Aaron Rogers was as good as Alex smith, the packers wouldn't have lost any games this year.
-
can you even imagine if klein could have planted his foot like sams can? :love:
-
Not yet at least. If Daniel Sams was a true winner and 'the man', wouldn't he have found a way to beat Okie St and/or Baylor? Answer this with some thought behind it, would a Sophomore Collin Klein or even a Beasley have found a way to beat Okie St or Baylor? I think they would have. And for that, I'm not sold on Dan Sams as our future stud QB. Future slot or Harper yes.
Something tells me that sophomore Collin Klein would not have been able to find a way to beat a couple of really good teams given that he couldn't beat Missouri or Colorado.
-
Not yet at least. If Daniel Sams was a true winner and 'the man', wouldn't he have found a way to beat Okie St and/or Baylor? Answer this with some thought behind it, would a Sophomore Collin Klein or even a Beasley have found a way to beat Okie St or Baylor? I think they would have. And for that, I'm not sold on Dan Sams as our future stud QB. Future slot or Harper yes.
Something tells me that sophomore Collin Klein would not have been able to find a way to beat a couple of really good teams given that he couldn't beat Missouri or Colorado.
While I agree with you, Bill took the ball out of his hands against Mizzou.
-
I enjoy the GPC threads calling Josh Freeman a loser because he has only won like 1/3 of his 61 NFL starts at QB. Collin Klein would never lose that many.
:lol:
-
Not yet at least. If Daniel Sams was a true winner and 'the man', wouldn't he have found a way to beat Okie St and/or Baylor? Answer this with some thought behind it, would a Sophomore Collin Klein or even a Beasley have found a way to beat Okie St or Baylor? I think they would have. And for that, I'm not sold on Dan Sams as our future stud QB. Future slot or Harper yes.
Something tells me that sophomore Collin Klein would not have been able to find a way to beat a couple of really good teams given that he couldn't beat Missouri or Colorado.
While I agree with you, Bill took the ball out of his hands against Mizzou.
He did against Colorado, too. Of course, that wouldn't have happened if Klein would have been able to move the ball and score more points in the first half. I don't think Sams would have had to come back to win at the end of the game against OSU or Baylor if he would have started those games and played all of the snaps.
-
Lefty hated the crap out of Chris too.
-
Collin Klein has won as many NFL games as Ell Roberson has.
-
Lefty hated the crap out of Chris too.
yes he did. which bodes well for our guy daniel.
-
Why is lefty racist? :dunno:
-
Not yet at least. If Daniel Sams was a true winner and 'the man', wouldn't he have found a way to beat Okie St and/or Baylor? Answer this with some thought behind it, would a Sophomore Collin Klein or even a Beasley have found a way to beat Okie St or Baylor? I think they would have. And for that, I'm not sold on Dan Sams as our future stud QB. Future slot or Harper yes.
Something tells me that sophomore Collin Klein would not have been able to find a way to beat a couple of really good teams given that he couldn't beat Missouri or Colorado.
While I agree with you, Bill took the ball out of his hands against Mizzou.
He did against Colorado, too. Of course, that wouldn't have happened if Klein would have been able to move the ball and score more points in the first half. I don't think Sams would have had to come back to win at the end of the game against OSU or Baylor if he would have started those games and played all of the snaps.
FYBS :shakesfist:
-
Not yet at least. If Daniel Sams was a true winner and 'the man', wouldn't he have found a way to beat Okie St and/or Baylor? Answer this with some thought behind it, would a Sophomore Collin Klein or even a Beasley have found a way to beat Okie St or Baylor? I think they would have. And for that, I'm not sold on Dan Sams as our future stud QB. Future slot or Harper yes.
Junior Collin Klein couldn't beat OSU in Stillwater, so I'm not sure why you would expect sophomore Daniel Sams to. He only beat Baylor once and that game was won on defense.
-
Sams is a quarterback and different than Collin Klein.
A more appropriate questions (as has been mentioned) is would Klein have won those games as a sophomore?
Plus, Sams will get the rest of this season to prove whether or not he is "the man" as you stated. I get the concerns because we had opportunities to win both OSU and BU and did not, in part because of Sams' mistakes. However, if he finishes this season with a 5-1ish record while playing 80% of the snaps, its going to be very difficult to doubt him and all K-State fans should be optimistic about the future with two years of Sams left.
-
Not yet at least. If Daniel Sams was a true winner and 'the man', wouldn't he have found a way to beat Okie St and/or Baylor? Answer this with some thought behind it, would a Sophomore Collin Klein or even a Beasley have found a way to beat Okie St or Baylor? I think they would have. And for that, I'm not sold on Dan Sams as our future stud QB. Future slot or Harper yes.
Junior Collin Klein couldn't beat OSU in Stillwater, so I'm not sure why you would expect sophomore Daniel Sams to. He only beat Baylor once and that game was won on defense.
That OSU team was much better than this year's, and Sams would have beat them if Snyder would just get out of his way.
-
Not yet at least. If Daniel Sams was a true winner and 'the man', wouldn't he have found a way to beat Okie St and/or Baylor? Answer this with some thought behind it, would a Sophomore Collin Klein or even a Beasley have found a way to beat Okie St or Baylor? I think they would have. And for that, I'm not sold on Dan Sams as our future stud QB. Future slot or Harper yes.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstream1.gifsoup.com%2Fview4%2F3535366%2Fmr-bean-middle-finger-o.gif&hash=419126ac1cd03a2941f92d2bb3355346f8b9ab43)
-
Not yet at least. If Daniel Sams was a true winner and 'the man', wouldn't he have found a way to beat Okie St and/or Baylor? Answer this with some thought behind it, would a Sophomore Collin Klein or even a Beasley have found a way to beat Okie St or Baylor? I think they would have. And for that, I'm not sold on Dan Sams as our future stud QB. Future slot or Harper yes.
Junior Collin Klein couldn't beat OSU in Stillwater, so I'm not sure why you would expect sophomore Daniel Sams to. He only beat Baylor once and that game was won on defense.
That OSU team was much better than this year's, and Sams would have beat them if Snyder would just get out of his way.
That KSU team was also much better than this year's.
-
Not yet at least. If Daniel Sams was a true winner and 'the man', wouldn't he have found a way to beat Okie St and/or Baylor? Answer this with some thought behind it, would a Sophomore Collin Klein or even a Beasley have found a way to beat Okie St or Baylor? I think they would have. And for that, I'm not sold on Dan Sams as our future stud QB. Future slot or Harper yes.
Junior Collin Klein couldn't beat OSU in Stillwater, so I'm not sure why you would expect sophomore Daniel Sams to. He only beat Baylor once and that game was won on defense.
That OSU team was much better than this year's, and Sams would have beat them if Snyder would just get out of his way.
Or decided to put #H2NO in so he could crap himself and fumble inside the 10 yard line
-
This thread.
:flush:
-
I think we are a better football team with Daniel Sams playing.
I think we are way more fun to watch with Daniel Sams playing.
I think Daniel Sams fits Bill Snyders offensive scheme better than any other quarterback we have.
I think the rest of this season will not be an audition but a coming out party with growing pains attached.
-
Sams isn't where he needs to be yet but his talent and potential is obvious. We lost plenty of games with a sophomore Colin Klein and a sophomore Roberson. Has Snyder ever won a bunch of games with any sophomore QB? It's just not a system that is made for young guys to come in and shine right away.
Obviously he needs to avoid the big mistakes at the end but what he's done these last two games is impressive. You can fix mistakes and teach a guy not to throw interceptions. You can't teach a guy to run for 200 yards even when the defense knows it's coming. I've always been a huge Colin Klein supporter but he never had to win a shootout with his two best WR's out. Sure he beat Texas his sopomore year without completing a pass but that was more about how bad the Texas offense was. That said I knew Klein could be good after that game when Texas knew what was coming and couldn't stop it and I see the same things with Sams.
-
Shocked by any Sams hater, just don't get it.
-
Shocked by any Sams hater, just don't get it.
They are called dumbasses SW.
-
Not sold on Sams?! pffffttt
This here is an excellent model. State of the art.
You sure drive a hard bargain, but I'll tell you what. How about I throw in this bumper to bumper protection plan and some all weather floor mats. Does that do anything for ya?
-
Wtf? What a garbage thread! I convinced your a idiot!
-
Shocked by any Sams hater, just don't get it.
They are called dumbasses SW.
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSrRfXJ8a1yjcQNnDnc85EkkCy6uxqE9ZMf-ySjFCPU3nwDOaE5)
-
Man it was exhausting wading through the long list of worthless replies in this thread. Collectively we need to reign in the edgy, sophmoric responses before we lose out on any intelligent sport related banter.
Great points about Klein not winning at Colorado or Mizzou, but he got pulled and wasn't responsible for finishing out those games. At least i think. Sams was the man directly responsible for ending the two games I referred to. I think those 2 interceptions are a snap shot of the future Sams at QB. Terrible decisions in pivotal times. Purely going off of speculation of course, I just think a young Klein and Roberson make better decisions in those situations.
I love Sams. Clearly the answer for this season at QB. No doubt an unbelievable talent on the field. I just don't think he will command the necessary QB game to lead us to Conference titles. Honestly I think he gets hurt before too long. But if he doesn't, our passing game will struggle.
-
Lefty hated the crap out of Chris too.
Go back and look at that thread. I first said no way he ran a 4.3. I then said he would struggle in the NFL.
-
Man it was exhausting wading through the long list of worthless replies in this thread. Collectively we need to reign in the edgy, sophmoric responses before we lose out on any intelligent sport related banter.
Great points about Klein not winning at Colorado or Mizzou, but he got pulled and wasn't responsible for finishing out those games. At least i think. Sams was the man directly responsible for ending the two games I referred to. I think those 2 interceptions are a snap shot of the future Sams at QB. Terrible decisions in pivotal times. Purely going off of speculation of course, I just think a young Klein and Roberson make better decisions in those situations.
I love Sams. Clearly the answer for this season at QB. No doubt an unbelievable talent on the field. I just don't think he will command the necessary QB game to lead us to Conference titles. Honestly I think he gets hurt before too long. But if he doesn't, our passing game will struggle.
our dumbass coaches only let him throw like 20 passes before asking him to lead us to comeback victories over ranked teams. he won't get hurt if they let him throw and don't run him 30 times a game. eff you.
-
Lefty hated the crap out of Chris too.
Go back and look at that thread. I first said no way he ran a 4.3. I then said he would struggle in the NFL.
you said he was the third or fourth best receiver on the team!
-
If it wasnt for sams and sams alone we would heve lost 35-7 and 55-10 in our last two games, stop being an idiot
-
Not yet at least. If Daniel Sams was a true winner and 'the man', wouldn't he have found a way to beat Okie St and/or Baylor? Answer this with some thought behind it, would a Sophomore Collin Klein or even a Beasley have found a way to beat Okie St or Baylor? I think they would have. And for that, I'm not sold on Dan Sams as our future stud QB. Future slot or Harper yes.
What in the rough ridin' world?
-
found a way
-
Lefty, can you go eff yourself? tia
-
Lefty, can you go eff yourself? tia
man that's edgy. Care to add anything of substance to the topic?
-
Lefty, can you go eff yourself? tia
man that's edgy. Care to add anything of substance to the topic?
do you?
-
Do you think Daniel Sams gives us the best chance of winning football games this season?
-
This shouldn't even be a topic of discussion.
-
Sheesh. I just don't get it. Of course the guy needs to improve, but he's #ourguy and will continue to get better. By this time next year every team not named K-State will be envious of our QB.
-
Man it was exhausting wading through the long list of worthless replies in this thread. Collectively we need to reign in the edgy, sophmoric responses before we lose out on any intelligent sport related banter.
Great points about Klein not winning at Colorado or Mizzou, but he got pulled and wasn't responsible for finishing out those games. At least i think. Sams was the man directly responsible for ending the two games I referred to. I think those 2 interceptions are a snap shot of the future Sams at QB. Terrible decisions in pivotal times. Purely going off of speculation of course, I just think a young Klein and Roberson make better decisions in those situations.
I love Sams. Clearly the answer for this season at QB. No doubt an unbelievable talent on the field. I just don't think he will command the necessary QB game to lead us to Conference titles. Honestly I think he gets hurt before too long. But if he doesn't, our passing game will struggle.
our dumbass coaches only let him throw like 20 passes before asking him to lead us to comeback victories over ranked teams. he won't get hurt if they let him throw and don't run him 30 times a game. eff you.
Good point and relevant because the Coaches have completely botched the usage of Sams from the beginning. This could be true that he simply hasn't had the time to get accustomed to in game passing yet. He did have the entire Okie St game to figure out his throws, but he consistently under threw long and was way off the mark.
-
Lefty, can you go eff yourself? tia
man that's edgy. Care to add anything of substance to the topic?
do you?
:lol:
-
Man it was exhausting wading through the long list of worthless replies in this thread. Collectively we need to reign in the edgy, sophmoric responses before we lose out on any intelligent sport related banter.
Great points about Klein not winning at Colorado or Mizzou, but he got pulled and wasn't responsible for finishing out those games. At least i think. Sams was the man directly responsible for ending the two games I referred to. I think those 2 interceptions are a snap shot of the future Sams at QB. Terrible decisions in pivotal times. Purely going off of speculation of course, I just think a young Klein and Roberson make better decisions in those situations.
I love Sams. Clearly the answer for this season at QB. No doubt an unbelievable talent on the field. I just don't think he will command the necessary QB game to lead us to Conference titles. Honestly I think he gets hurt before too long. But if he doesn't, our passing game will struggle.
our dumbass coaches only let him throw like 20 passes before asking him to lead us to comeback victories over ranked teams. he won't get hurt if they let him throw and don't run him 30 times a game. eff you.
Good point and relevant because the Coaches have completely botched the usage of Sams from the beginning. This could be true that he simply hasn't had the time to get accustomed to in game passing yet. He did have the entire Okie St game to figure out his throws, but he consistently under threw long and was way off the mark.
He was 15/21 passing and didn't have Lockett or Thompson on the field.
-
Man it was exhausting wading through the long list of worthless replies in this thread. Collectively we need to reign in the edgy, sophmoric responses before we lose out on any intelligent sport related banter.
Great points about Klein not winning at Colorado or Mizzou, but he got pulled and wasn't responsible for finishing out those games. At least i think. Sams was the man directly responsible for ending the two games I referred to. I think those 2 interceptions are a snap shot of the future Sams at QB. Terrible decisions in pivotal times. Purely going off of speculation of course, I just think a young Klein and Roberson make better decisions in those situations.
I love Sams. Clearly the answer for this season at QB. No doubt an unbelievable talent on the field. I just don't think he will command the necessary QB game to lead us to Conference titles. Honestly I think he gets hurt before too long. But if he doesn't, our passing game will struggle.
our dumbass coaches only let him throw like 20 passes before asking him to lead us to comeback victories over ranked teams. he won't get hurt if they let him throw and don't run him 30 times a game. eff you.
Good point and relevant because the Coaches have completely botched the usage of Sams from the beginning. This could be true that he simply hasn't had the time to get accustomed to in game passing yet. He did have the entire Okie St game to figure out his throws, but he consistently under threw long and was way off the mark.
you mean the game he went 15/21? I don't think you know what consistently means.
wait, nevermind. :buh-bye:
-
Yes he made some bad throws at OSU. So if you're "not sold" on Smas, as your thread title states, are you suggesting we play Jake Waters at quarterback? Because I'm not sold on his ability to help the Cats get touchdown plays.
-
Lefty, good people deserve good things.
And you are not a good person.
-
lefty is such a bad person that ETP felt compelled to remember he has a login :horrorsurprise:
-
hey lefty I bet you can't even use most computers because the mouse is on the wrong side :lol:
-
Yes he made some bad throws at OSU. So if you're "not sold" on Smas, as your thread title states, are you suggesting we play Jake Waters at quarterback? Because I'm not sold on his ability to help the Cats get touchdown plays.
This year Sams is clearly the guy. I'm talking about next year and year after. I dont' think Sams can evolve into the QB guy we need to get back to the next level.
-
Lefty, good people deserve good things.
And you are not a good person.
Sams is very fun to watch. Man he's got talent. I love it. But I also love wins. Sams didn't beat Okie St or Baylor when he had the chance.
-
Look, I can see why people would have some caution with Sams, mainly due to a couple really bad throws in crucial situations. And to be fair, even with a small sample size having 12.5% of his passes intercepted is not a good thing.
IMHO its still too early to make a real definitive conclusion on Sams either way, but I think I've seen enough to say there is a great potential for him to be a very good quarterback at K-State. Not just for the future, but for the rest of this season.
-
I would like to sell Lefty for a poster that isn't a dumbass
-
Lefty, good people deserve good things.
And you are not a good person.
Sams is very fun to watch. Man he's got talent. I love it. But I also love wins. Sams didn't beat Okie St or Baylor when he had the chance.
lefty, we are a team thats 2-4 with a loss to an fcs team, there are far more better things to bitch about than our best player on our roster. more than likely waters will be our starter saturday so in all reality this thread is you bitching about our back up sophomore
-
Yes he made some bad throws at OSU. So if you're "not sold" on Smas, as your thread title states, are you suggesting we play Jake Waters at quarterback? Because I'm not sold on his ability to help the Cats get touchdown plays.
This year Sams is clearly the guy. I'm talking about next year and year after. I dont' think Sams can evolve into the QB guy we need to get back to the next level.
Snyder QBs improve with age, like fine wines. He's good now with flashes of greatness, and if you don't think he'll improve tremendously his junior and senior years then you haven't followed KSU Foozeball much over the past 25 seasons. #Truth
-
Look, I can see why people would have some caution with Sams, mainly due to a couple really bad throws in crucial situations.
would have never even been in those "crucial" situations if it wasnt for sams. are you guys forgetting who our other qb is?
-
Yes he made some bad throws at OSU. So if you're "not sold" on Smas, as your thread title states, are you suggesting we play Jake Waters at quarterback? Because I'm not sold on his ability to help the Cats get touchdown plays.
This year Sams is clearly the guy. I'm talking about next year and year after. I dont' think Sams can evolve into the QB guy we need to get back to the next level.
Are you saying we should start a freshman next season?
-
Look, I can see why people would have some caution with Sams, mainly due to a couple really bad throws in crucial situations.
would have never even been in those "crucial" situations if it wasnt for sams. are you guys forgetting who our other qb is?
If Sams would have played the entirety of those games, we more than likely would have been playing with a lead at the end of both of those games.
-
if sams played our tune up games we would have won them AND he would have not made the bad decision interceptions. because he would have been tuned up.
-
Very surprised to learn lefty's post wasn't a cut and paste from gpc.
-
Look, I can see why people would have some caution with Sams, mainly due to a couple really bad throws in crucial situations.
would have never even been in those "crucial" situations if it wasnt for sams. are you guys forgetting who our other qb is?
If Sams would have played the entirety of those games, we more than likely would have been playing with a lead at the end of both of those games.
I agree wholeheartedly with this as well. And I can't figure out why the Coaches don't see it this way. But it doesn't change the fact that Sams didn't come through when given the chance.
-
Look, I can see why people would have some caution with Sams, mainly due to a couple really bad throws in crucial situations.
would have never even been in those "crucial" situations if it wasnt for sams. are you guys forgetting who our other qb is?
If Sams would have played the entirety of those games, we more than likely would have been playing with a lead at the end of both of those games.
I get that, but I don't think its fair to let Sams off the hook for two terrible throws based on "what ifs". He made bad throws and we lost, but yes he played really well in both games.
Lefty's point may be a bit much, but the premise that Sams has had opportunities to win games and made crucial mistakes in each is accurate. We had leads in both 4th quarters and he played the majority of the snaps in each game. Its not fair or respectful to Sams to let him off the hook based on what are largely arbitrary reasons IMHO. I don't believe he'd give himself those excuses, and we shouldn't either.
That said, I think he is going to be a very good (or even great) quarterback at K-State.
-
The were bad decisions to make terrible passes. All he has to do is decide not to throw them.
-
Yes he made some bad throws at OSU. So if you're "not sold" on Smas, as your thread title states, are you suggesting we play Jake Waters at quarterback? Because I'm not sold on his ability to help the Cats get touchdown plays.
This year Sams is clearly the guy. I'm talking about next year and year after. I dont' think Sams can evolve into the QB guy we need to get back to the next level.
Are you saying we should start a freshman next season?
I don't know and that's a big problem as I crunch numbers in my head. Sharp surely won't be ready. Waters will be Waters, a gifted practice player. I will wager that Ertz transfers. The truth will be played out next season as Sams assumes the commanding lead. I imagine he'll give us the 8-4 season with ease, but I want higher goals than that.
The bad thing is elite teams have a defense to match the offense and with Snyder's recruiting, our D will be pieced together again.
-
Yes he made some bad throws at OSU. So if you're "not sold" on Smas, as your thread title states, are you suggesting we play Jake Waters at quarterback? Because I'm not sold on his ability to help the Cats get touchdown plays.
This year Sams is clearly the guy. I'm talking about next year and year after. I dont' think Sams can evolve into the QB guy we need to get back to the next level.
Are you saying we should start a freshman next season?
I don't know and that's a big problem as I crunch numbers in my head. Sharp surely won't be ready. Waters will be Waters, a gifted practice player. I will wager that Ertz transfers. The truth will be played out next season as Sams assumes the commanding lead. I imagine he'll give us the 8-4 season with ease, but I want higher goals than that.
The bad thing is elite teams have a defense to match the offense and with Snyder's recruiting, our D will be pieced together again.
we need a better rb, a big receiver (that can catch consistently) a true lock down corner, a better oline, and a dline that can get more pressure. You can fault sams for his bad decisions and i wont disagree but lets be honest the last two weeks he has pretty much been a one man show. he will only get better
-
This sonofabitch is going to backtrack again. Don't let him get away with it. Never forget the dumbassery you witnessed here this morning, friends.
-
This sonofabitch is going to backtrack again. Don't let him get away with it. Never forget the dumbassery you witnessed here this morning, friends.
Bubbles you're full of vigor and zeal! You're ready for a big game this weekend I can tell. Let's hope for a Sams domination.
-
Man it was exhausting wading through the long list of worthless replies in this thread. Collectively we need to reign in the edgy, sophmoric responses before we lose out on any intelligent sport related banter.
my post was excellent fwiw
-
Lefty, can you go eff yourself? tia
man that's edgy. Care to add anything of substance to the topic?
do you?
Summary of thread:
Lefty makes a terrible first post with terrible claims.
Everyone contradicts him with sound reasoning and counter-arguments.
Lefty misuses reign/rein, then folds his arms and claims no one said anything of substance.
-
lefty is such a bad person that ETP felt compelled to remember he has a login :horrorsurprise:
:dubious:
-
Man it was exhausting wading through the long list of worthless replies in this thread. Collectively we need to reign in the edgy, sophmoric responses before we lose out on any intelligent sport related banter.
my post was excellent fwiw
Congratulations on your post.
-
do you even qbr, bro?
-
IMO, Sams doesn't have a choice but to be a great QB. Go cats. :lynchmob:
-
i'm just going to assume this thread went like this...
lefty to someone last night- "watch this. i'll get those goEMAW guys up to ten pages before the end of the day just by saying i'm not sold that sams will ever win a big12 championship while he's at kstate."
"but lefty, only two qbs at kstate have ever won a championship. they won't fall for that. chad may was drafted in the second round of the nfl and he didn't win one. michael bishop was runner up in the heisman and he didn't win one. what about josh freeman, he's an nfl starter and he didn't come close. jonathan beasley? nope.".
"well guess we'll find out. logs in. types. waits."
-
only two qbs at kstate have ever won a championship
you forgot Leo Ayers, 1934 Big Six Champion
-
or I guess it's possible that you remembered Leo Ayers but forgot about Klein or Ell
-
look man, if you don't even know why i left out leo, then i'm certainly not going to bother explaining it to you here. :buh-bye:
-
ok rick
-
i'm just going to assume this thread went like this...
lefty to someone last night- "watch this. i'll get those goEMAW guys up to ten pages before the end of the day just by saying i'm not sold that sams will ever win a big12 championship while he's at kstate."
"but lefty, only two qbs at kstate have ever won a championship. they won't fall for that. chad may was drafted in the second round of the nfl and he didn't win one. michael bishop was runner up in the heisman and he didn't win one. what about josh freeman, he's an nfl starter and he didn't come close. jonathan beasley? nope.".
"well guess we'll find out. logs in. types. waits."
for as awful as his football prognostications have been you sure are quick to make excuses for him hmmmmmm....hmmmmmm.....
HMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-
Everyone on the force calls rd "officer Lefty" - source is A-
-
i'm just going to assume this thread went like this...
lefty to someone last night- "watch this. i'll get those goEMAW guys up to ten pages before the end of the day just by saying i'm not sold that sams will ever win a big12 championship while he's at kstate."
"but lefty, only two qbs at kstate have ever won a championship. they won't fall for that. chad may was drafted in the second round of the nfl and he didn't win one. michael bishop was runner up in the heisman and he didn't win one. what about josh freeman, he's an nfl starter and he didn't come close. jonathan beasley? nope.".
"well guess we'll find out. logs in. types. waits."
for as awful as his football prognostications have been you sure are quick to make excuses for him hmmmmmm....hmmmmmm.....
HMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he's an mhk kid living down in the heart of '02ville. the heart. if wanting him to succeed on here is a crime, then you better call my boss and get my badge revoked immediately, cause guess what? guilty as charged, your honor.
-
plus coop piitb
-
is the gfa vs rd thing still happening? i thought peace was made but secretly im glad if it isn't
-
is the gfa vs rd thing still happening? i thought peace was made but secretly im glad if it isn't
it's not really a "vs" thing but more of a "father/son" thing
-
yeah, rick is like the son I never had or even thought about having but there he is anyway
-
"yeah, johnson county pd... uhhh, this is officer daris. i'm over hear in the i'm not sold on sams thread and am requesting a 10-32 if anyone happens to be close by and has their ears on. over."
-
"yeah, johnson county pd... uhhh, this is officer daris. i'm over hear in the i'm not sold on sams thread and am requesting a 10-32 if anyone happens to be close by and has their ears on. over."
Requesting a chase? :confused:
-
"yeah, johnson county pd... uhhh, this is officer daris. i'm over hear in the i'm not sold on sams thread and am requesting a 10-32 if anyone happens to be close by and has their ears on. over."
Requesting a chase? :confused:
"that's a negative there eastcat. i'm contacting jcpd and not the highway patrol. advise to please stay offline to allow for easier communication. 10-4. over?"
-
gonna have to incorporate a "do you have your ears on over?" into a convo sometime soon
-
RD you rascal you.
-
Am I the only one that wants to fight lefty?
-
Am I the only one that wants to fight lefty?
I'd imagine no.
-
Back to the point, why hasn't Daniel won games for us yet? Why hasn't Daniel been given the keys to operate the vehicle?
-
Back to the point, why hasn't Daniel won games for us yet? Why hasn't Daniel been given the keys to operate the vehicle?
It's all that damned LHC Bill Snyder's fault.
-
Back to the point, why hasn't Daniel won games for us yet? Why hasn't Daniel been given the keys to operate the vehicle?
It's all that damned LHC Bill Snyder's fault.
YUP
-
Back to the point, why hasn't Daniel won games for us yet? Why hasn't Daniel been given the keys to operate the vehicle?
i thought the point was you aren't sold on sams? dammit lefty make up your mind so i can tell you what you are wrong about
-
Back to the point, why hasn't Daniel won games for us yet? Why hasn't Daniel been given the keys to operate the vehicle?
1) he made mistakes against both OSU and Baylor late in the game. And these are arguably the best 2 teams in the conference. Of course, gotta be "in the game" in the first place for a late mistake to hurt you. we don't have another QB who would have had us in the game against either OSU or BU.
2) Bad coaching? I think in every single post-game interview, Snyder is quoted as saying the coaching has blown. As recently as Baylor, he said "I think I made some bad choices certainly that had a lot to do with [why we didn't play well]."
3) Sams is accountable. If Sams was 2-4 against NDSU, KU, ISU, TCU, I'd be singing a different tune. As it were, he didn't play against NDSU or UT, and had us on the cusp of beating both OSU and BU.
So, the real question should be, why hasn't Waters won games for us. And at the end of the OSU and Baylor games, why was he on the sidelines?
-
Back to the point, why hasn't Daniel won games for us yet? Why hasn't Daniel been given the keys to operate the vehicle?
If he had the keys since august, he'd be doing figure 8 brodies all over t boone pickens stadium
-
Back to the point, why hasn't Daniel won games for us yet? Why hasn't Daniel been given the keys to operate the vehicle?
second question first- he was injured just before the season and missed a bunch of practices. also offense coaches worried about his decision making.
first question-bad defense, we played really good teams, two best weapons on offense and special teams were hurt, has never played qb this much in his entire life (still getting comfortable w/ the position.)
-
Back to the point, why hasn't Daniel won games for us yet? Why hasn't Daniel been given the keys to operate the vehicle?
second question first- he was injured just before the season and missed a bunch of practices. also offense coaches worried about his decision making.
first question-bad defense, we played really good teams, two best weapons on offense and special teams were hurt, has never played qb this much in his entire life (still getting comfortable w/ the position.)
good points here rd, very good
-
Back to the point, why hasn't Daniel won games for us yet? Why hasn't Daniel been given the keys to operate the vehicle?
second question first- he was injured just before the season and missed a bunch of practices. also offense coaches worried about his decision making.
first question-bad defense, we played really good teams, two best weapons on offense and special teams were hurt, has never played qb this much in his entire life (still getting comfortable w/ the position.)
good points here rd, very good
Will you guys quit the mushy stuff; I was really enjoying this thread up till now. :shakesfist:
-
From ESPN Big 12 mailbox with Trotter
David Francis in Fort Drum, N.Y., writes: Will LHC Bill Snyder keep the two-quarterback system next year? If not, who's starting and will Sams move to a different position? Thanks.
Trotter: Jake Waters is going to be the one and only quarterback next year. The question is, what happens with Sams? He’s too talented to keep on the sidelines. I would like to see K-State use Sams the way TCU used Trevone Boykin late this season, as a receiver and a situational quarterback. I think he could be a very effective weapon if used that way.
-
If Sams isn't going to be our QB, then he needs to be a utility skill player (slot receiver, spell back, wildcat, etc). We need to get him somewhere between 15-30 touches a game because of the dynamic play making ability he brings to our offense. We have to use him somehow, but I don't think we can take him out of the QB role entirely because I still think it's likely he's the guy his senior year.
-
I like him at backup QB. Stud QB with experience in 2015. Deadly weapon in the redzone in 14. Easy transition if jake gets hurt in 14.
-
I just wish he wasn't so slow.
-
sams will end up being the starter in '14
-
We should use him like TCU uses Boykin. I think that would be a perfect role for him.
-
sams will end up being the starter in '14
That's this year!!
-
From ESPN Big 12 mailbox with Trotter
David Francis in Fort Drum, N.Y., writes: Will LHC Bill Snyder keep the two-quarterback system next year? If not, who's starting and will Sams move to a different position? Thanks.
Trotter: Jake Waters is going to be the one and only quarterback next year. The question is, what happens with Sams? He’s too talented to keep on the sidelines. I would like to see K-State use Sams the way TCU used Trevone Boykin late this season, as a receiver and a situational quarterback. I think he could be a very effective weapon if used that way.
Thx. for the Luke_Trotter opinion. See numerous ksu_Fan posts about this very same opinion. :rolleyes:
-
Our Guy instagrammed a video of himself running routes
-
Our Guy instagrammed a video of himself running routes
can't wait to see him stotting on a route and breaking some poor cb's ankle
-
Our Guy instagrammed a video of himself running routes
There's 4 videos. start with this one with Sams tagging Waters.
http://instagram.com/p/jKjQZuwZbT/
-
Our Guy instagrammed a video of himself running routes
There's 4 videos. start with this one with Sams tagging Waters.
http://instagram.com/p/jKjQZuwZbT/
Waters comments on that instagram. :love:
-
Our Guy instagrammed a video of himself running routes
There's 4 videos. start with this one with Sams tagging Waters.
http://instagram.com/p/jKjQZuwZbT/
Waters comments on that instagram. :love:
Also see:
youngchris
You a QUARTERBACK you better chill
ds4mslife
@youngchris no comment son
-
If I was Sams, I would instagram all kinds of crap. Like, me kicking fg's, me snapping the ball, me carrying the cord for someone's headset, me working the down markers.
-
If I was Sams, I would instagram all kinds of crap. Like, me kicking fg's, me snapping the ball, me carrying the cord for someone's headset, me working the down markers.
...taping up someone's ankle...
-
If I was Sams, I would instagram all kinds of crap. Like, me kicking fg's, me snapping the ball, me carrying the cord for someone's headset, me working the down markers.
Great post. :thumbs:
-
Our Guy instagrammed a video of himself running routes
There's 4 videos. start with this one with Sams tagging Waters.
http://instagram.com/p/jKjQZuwZbT/
Waters comments on that instagram. :love:
The best comment:
prestonwr08
@ds4mslife can I give you you a tip I am a fellow receiver and I do a lot of all over the country keep running don't stop when you catch the ball
-
who is @zone4quis ?
-
The best comment:
prestonwr08
@ds4mslife can I give you you a tip I am a fellow receiver and I do a lot of all over the country keep running don't stop when you catch the ball
Looks like this prestonwr08 kid has been a wide receiver for the better part of a decade at least. Probably sage advice.
-
The best comment:
prestonwr08
@ds4mslife can I give you you a tip I am a fellow receiver and I do a lot of all over the country keep running don't stop when you catch the ball
Looks like this prestonwr08 kid has been a wide receiver for the better part of a decade at least. Probably sage advice.
yes. he should run all the way into the endzone every time after those catches. i mean, you can't even see the cornerback in those videos!
-
More Sams' WR video
http://instagram.com/p/jPuyjlwZf1/
:love:
-
I'm sorry, but did the Daniel Sams already lose the QB battle? Oh, that's right. The pre-season isn't even over yet. In fact, it's only September. Does not having the September QB lead count as a loss? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you make this topic when the 4th game hasn't even rough ridin' happened? #Life is still playing right now he's been the most dynamic QB on the roster for how many years now? He's playing a guy that just happens to have a lead because he's feeding off the energy of winning national JUCO player of the year. But you know what? #Life is one of the best rough ridin' QBs in the NCAA, he had a ton of touchdowns in 2012 and would have won the Heisman and the Natty if he didn't have a world crushing stud in front of him. Maybe you should shut the eff up before you make stupid topics like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when #Life wins and someone bumps this topic. Are you a rough ridin' drunk? Are you stupid as crap? Are you a low-life crap-mouthed little bitch? You are a rough ridin' idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I'm rough ridin' serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-#Life topics because you're a hater who doesn't like the QB because he's good. eff you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these rough ridin' QBs on the board, like I give a eff. It's so easy to spot out your threads now. Always doing stupid crap like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your rough ridin' life try not to make a topic like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. eff you. You are nothing.
-
nail on the head
-
Go off, queen
-
I would love to meet J’s drug dealer. I bet that mother rough rider has some awesome stories about J.