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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: canadian_breeze on March 27, 2010, 05:44:20 PM
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and ur a dumbass if you think otherwise
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Are you serious! That's pretty rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to say.
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denis is gone next year and I don't see a second coming of the greatest recruiting class of all time in the near future
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Are you serious! That's pretty fracking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to say.
www.ksufans.com
www.gopowertard.com
Please go there.
We are fracked. Best chance we will ever have and Jamar and Dom crap their pants. They will do it again next year.
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You were a dumbass if you thought we'd be this close this year. Not sure what that means. :dunno:
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Yeah I'm sure half of you never thought Clemente would be able to do things like that. If we lose Pullen, I agree we're mumped.
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God, you guys are like the opposite of the guys on GP. You're still Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), just on the other end of the spectrum. Negatards.
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God, you guys are like the opposite of the guys on GP. You're still Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), just on the other end of the spectrum. Negatards.
This ^. Ya'll are just melting down. Calm down and move on.
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You were a dumbass if you thought we'd be this close this year. Not sure what that means. :dunno:
But that's why you gotta take advantage of opportunities like today.
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Are you serious! That's pretty fracking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to say.
www.ksufans.com
www.gopowertard.com
Please go there.
We are fracked. Best chance we will ever have and Jamar and Dom crap their pants. They will do it again next year.
lol.
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The fact that we got close this year really isn't a reason to meltdown. I'm dumbfounded by it. :users:
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The fact that we got close this year really isn't a reason to meltdown. I'm dumbfounded by it. :users:
my reasoning for a meltdown has to do with the pathetic performance of the team.... don't want to hear the "great season" and "we were so close, though" talk. :chainsaw:
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The fact that we got close this year really isn't a reason to meltdown. I'm dumbfounded by it. :users:
I don't think there would be a meltdown if we had lost by 20. Or played Syracuse and lost.
Personally, I'm not melting down. I just have a very heavy heart because I hate to see an opportunity like today to do something very special that could have occurred if just one or two of multiple factors would have been just a little more in our favor.
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The fact that we got close this year really isn't a reason to meltdown. I'm dumbfounded by it. :users:
I don't think there would be a meltdown if we had lost by 20. Or played Syracuse and lost.
Personally, I'm not melting down. I just have a very heavy heart because I hate to see an opportunity like today to do something very special that could have occurred if just one or two of multiple factors would have been just a little more in our favor.
Yeah, it's not losing that is upsetting me, but how and who we lost to. Nothing seemed to go right.
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What's dumbfounding is that we're paying an assistant coach $420 fracking thousand dollars a year, and he hasn't recruited anybody at all lately . . . that's what's fracking dumbfounding.
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I guess I'm a dumbass then.
It may be a while but eventually it will happen.
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What's dumbfounding is that we're paying an assistant coach $420 fracking thousand dollars a year, and he hasn't recruited anybody at all lately . . . that's what's fracking dumbfounding.
I get this feeling that dalonte has a plan of leaving kstate within the next few years and really doesn't give a crap about state's future as long as he's gettin 420k
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Agreed. KSU beat themselves. It hurts to beat yourself(haha expect a sex joke from this) when you got the opportunity to be 1 step away from a national title game.
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What's dumbfounding is that we're paying an assistant coach $420 fracking thousand dollars a year, and he hasn't recruited anybody at all lately . . . that's what's fracking dumbfounding.
agree with that. I won't go overboard about it until I see how our 2011 class turns out.
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What's dumbfounding is that we're paying an assistant coach $420 fracking thousand dollars a year, and he hasn't recruited anybody at all lately . . . that's what's fracking dumbfounding.
I get this feeling that dalonte has a plan of leaving kstate within the next few years and really doesn't give a crap about state's future as long as he's gettin 420k
this is rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) though
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Agreed. KSU beat themselves. It hurts to beat yourself(haha expect a sex joke from this) when you got the opportunity to be 1 step away from a national title game.
butler beat ksu. give credit where it's due. their defense was amazing.
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Agreed. KSU beat themselves. It hurts to beat yourself(haha expect a sex joke from this) when you got the opportunity to be 1 step away from a national title game.
butler beat ksu. give credit where it's due. their defense was amazing.
I definitely agree with you OKCAT. Butler is better than what everybody assumes. But we did show up playing like crap. There is no opportunity rarely where you can have a fairly easy bracket how it set up for KSU.
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Butler whipped K-State's ass, just admit it. They had a better gameplan, they executed and they played great defense. Their good defense, and our head down dribbling guards ensured that we couldn't close the deal when we forced their turnovers.
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Butler whipped K-State's ass, just admit it. They had a better gameplan, they executed and they played great defense. Their good defense, and our head down dribbling guards ensured that we couldn't close the deal when we forced their turnovers.
Yes.
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Agreed. KSU beat themselves. It hurts to beat yourself(haha expect a sex joke from this) when you got the opportunity to be 1 step away from a national title game.
butler beat ksu. give credit where it's due. their defense was amazing.
We played like dogshit more than they played well.
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The fact that we got close this year really isn't a reason to meltdown. I'm dumbfounded by it. :users:
Hey, I said that earlier and you were all mean about it.
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Agreed. KSU beat themselves. It hurts to beat yourself(haha expect a sex joke from this) when you got the opportunity to be 1 step away from a national title game.
butler beat ksu. give credit where it's due. their defense was amazing.
We played like dogshit more than they played well.
A little of both. They kept Denis and Jake out of it, and our bigs pissed down their legs.
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The fact that we got close this year really isn't a reason to meltdown. I'm dumbfounded by it. :users:
Hey, I said that earlier and you were all mean about it.
You wait until we lose you dumbshit. You want to win until you don't. :jerk:
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Butler had obviously done some great tape work. They were all over the play where Jake curls off a screen at the FT line. Always had an extra guy there with his hand right where Jake was going to catch and hold the ball. Caused several turnovers, IIRC.
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The fact that we got close this year really isn't a reason to meltdown. I'm dumbfounded by it. :users:
Hey, I said that earlier and you were all mean about it.
You wait until we lose you dumbshit. You want to win until you don't. :jerk:
You know who's dumb? Fans who think they have an impact on the game.
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The fact that we got close this year really isn't a reason to meltdown. I'm dumbfounded by it. :users:
Hey, I said that earlier and you were all mean about it.
You wait until we lose you dumbshit. You want to win until you don't. :jerk:
You know who's dumb? Fans who think they have an impact on the game.
I agree 100%
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The fact that we got close this year really isn't a reason to meltdown. I'm dumbfounded by it. :users:
I don't think there would be a meltdown if we had lost by 20. Or played Syracuse and lost.
Personally, I'm not melting down. I just have a very heavy heart because I hate to see an opportunity like today to do something very special that could have occurred if just one or two of multiple factors would have been just a little more in our favor.
Yep.
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Butler whipped K-State's ass, just admit it. They had a better gameplan, they executed and they played great defense. Their good defense, and our head down dribbling guards ensured that we couldn't close the deal when we forced their turnovers.
Can't let you pass this off as fact, you haven't watched 5 minutes of Butler Basketball before this weekend. Stop acting like Stevens game planned Frank, they did exactly what they have done all year, they didn't show a damn thing different. With less than a 48 hour turnaround it just isn't possible to X & O your way to a victory. This is one of the dumbest, most inaccurate talking point ever.
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What's dumbfounding is that we're paying an assistant coach $420 fracking thousand dollars a year, and he hasn't recruited anybody at all lately . . . that's what's fracking dumbfounding.
Didn't he bring in Judge and McGruder?
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What's dumbfounding is that we're paying an assistant coach $420 fracking thousand dollars a year, and he hasn't recruited anybody at all lately . . . that's what's fracking dumbfounding.
Didn't he bring in Judge and McGruder?
:confused:
Dax needs 2 5*s every year to approve.
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Butler whipped K-State's ass, just admit it. They had a better gameplan, they executed and they played great defense. Their good defense, and our head down dribbling guards ensured that we couldn't close the deal when we forced their turnovers.
Kstate was fatigued. They showed it the moment the ball was tipped.
They couldn't whip Ksu's ass since Ksu was too busy dragging its own ass on the floor.
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Butler whipped K-State's ass, just admit it. They had a better gameplan, they executed and they played great defense. Their good defense, and our head down dribbling guards ensured that we couldn't close the deal when we forced their turnovers.
Kstate was fatigued. They showed it the moment the ball was tipped.
They couldn't whip Ksu's ass since Ksu was too busy dragging its own ass on the floor.
QFT
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The fact that we got close this year really isn't a reason to meltdown. I'm dumbfounded by it. :users:
I don't think there would be a meltdown if we had lost by 20. Or played Syracuse and lost.
Personally, I'm not melting down. I just have a very heavy heart because I hate to see an opportunity like today to do something very special that could have occurred if just one or two of multiple factors would have been just a little more in our favor.
Yep.
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Shut the hell up! We will be a better team next year.
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You gotta be kidding me. This team maxed out. Did you just see Kentucky get theirs? They're not going to be EE next year.
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and ur a dumbass if you think otherwise
Go. And. Die. :blindfold:
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You were a dumbass if you thought we'd be this close this year. Not sure what that means. :dunno:
yeah, I don't get it. it sucks because we would have faced a very beatable team to get to the championship, but I mean, to think that we'll never get to an elite 8 game is stupid. prolly be tougher cause we might not have a 2 seed, but, like, there just look at our side of the bracket, there were 5's and 6's playing.
and quite honestly, next year, I hope we win the conference much more than make an elite 8 run. sounds stupid, but I'd like some hardware.
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What's dumbfounding is that we're paying an assistant coach $420 fracking thousand dollars a year, and he hasn't recruited anybody at all lately . . . that's what's fracking dumbfounding.
Didn't he bring in Judge and McGruder?
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well they did commit before Beasley played a minute at KSU
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You were a dumbass if you thought we'd be this close this year. Not sure what that means. :dunno:
yeah, I don't get it. it sucks because we would have faced a very beatable team to get to the championship, but I mean, to think that we'll never get to an elite 8 game is stupid. prolly be tougher cause we might not have a 2 seed, but, like, there just look at our side of the bracket, there were 5's and 6's playing.
and quite honestly, next year, I hope we win the conference much more than make an elite 8 run. sounds stupid, but I'd like some hardware.
You're less likely to be disappointed then. I think a conference title is much likelier than a deep tournament run, given our gigantic gaping hole at point guard but a lack of quality/experience in the Big 12 to exploit that fact.
Saying we'll never be in this position again is flat-out stupid as hell, unless you're one of those 2012 weirdos or something. If that's the case, at least I can respect you as a nutbar.
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Shut the hell up! We will be a better team next year.
I disagree. Losing Clemente is huge. Unless, Judge or Irving improve drastically on offense, or Asprilla becomes an absolute beast, I don't see us being better.
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Shut the hell up! We will be a better team next year.
I disagree. Losing Clemente is huge. Unless, Judge or Irving improve drastically on offense, or Asprilla becomes an absolute beast, I don't see us being better.
We get better at every position but PG. That is good.
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I really hate when people make the comment that we always have next year or that we will be better. No time is ever better than the present. Will we ever be this close to a final 4 again? I don't know. That statement if very likely. The fact is we were close and you have to take advantage of the opportunity when it presents itself. Nothing in the future is ever guaranteed. Just because we have a lot of players coming back guarantees nothing. The chemistry this team had was special. We can only hope they find that connection next year. WE WILL MISS CLEMENTE MORE THAN ANYONE KNOWS! He was our heart and sole, he lived, ate, and slept basketball. He may not have been perfect but he bailed us out with big hoops time and time again. He was the one guy that could create his own shot and get to the rim. He will be greatly missed. I remember thinking that after we won the Big 12 FB Championship in '03 that our program would only get better and so would the recruits. Look what happened. However, the future for BBall does look bright. As a KState fan let us be competitive for Big 12 titles and get to the tourney every year and I'll take it. This was a great ride and you never know what can happen.
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Shut the hell up! We will be a better team next year.
I disagree. Losing Clemente is huge. Unless, Judge or Irving improve drastically on offense, or Asprilla becomes an absolute beast, I don't see us being better.
We get better at every position but PG. That is good.
Point guard is the most important position on the court. Clemente will be a huge loss for K-State. I'm not sure you guys realize how many times he manufactured something out of nothing for K-State's offense. The guy hit clutch shot after clutch shot.
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Shut the hell up! We will be a better team next year.
I disagree. Losing Clemente is huge. Unless, Judge or Irving improve drastically on offense, or Asprilla becomes an absolute beast, I don't see us being better.
We get better at every position but PG. That is good.
True....and if Jake move to point and McGruds steps it up at the 2, we'll be fine there as well. Just wish we would have zoned Butler after we got back in the game. They were killing us inside on wide open layups, and finished us off the same way. After 35 minutes of that, I would have at least tried it.
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Don't see Jake at point, McG at 2. In all likelihood it'll be Irving at PG with Russell filling Irving's role off the bench.
That would be step down from Denis in transition, outside shooting and shot creation. There could be improvement in defense where Irving shows signs of being something special.
As I posted elsewhere, I wish we would have won the recruiting war for Marcus Denmon.
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and ur a dumbass if you think otherwise
You know. You are right. We should get rid of the Men's basketball program and just turn the Bram into a livestock judging arena. Your ingenious clarity helped me to understand that we were foolish to even try competing in DI basketball. Who the hell are we to damn near win the Big XII regular season and tourney. Not only that... what the hell were the coaches and players doing making the NCAA tourney and winning game after game including one which was deemed an instant classic by nearly every pundit in the nation? God knows we should have thrown in the towel long ago. You...You are something special and that keen insight should do you well in life. Really couldn't tell if you were A) fishing B) f@cking stupid C) a jock sniffing beaktard. I'm leaning towards a combo of B & C.
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Don't see Jake at point, McG at 2. In all likelihood it'll be Irving at PG with Russell filling Irving's role off the bench.
That would be step down from Denis in transition, outside shooting and shot creation. There could be improvement in defense where Irving shows signs of being something special.
As I posted elsewhere, I wish we would have won the recruiting war for Marcus Denmon.
I just can't see us competing for the Big 12 with those guys filling the point. Need experience there. Jake has played the point before, and he'll have to play the point if he's going to land on a team in the league. IMO McGruder is a lot closer to a starting 2 on the Big 12 level than Irving is as a 1, and the point is more important anyway, so you want the experience there. Could be LBBIQ on my part. We still have a scholly left as well, so that could change everything, although I'm not envisioning someone coming in and starting there the first year.
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and ur a dumbass if you think otherwise
You know. You are right. We should get rid of the Men's basketball program and just turn the Bram into a livestock judging arena. Your ingenious clarity helped me to understand that we were foolish to even try competing in DI basketball. Who the hell are we to damn near win the Big XII regular season and tourney. Not only that... what the hell were the coaches and players doing making the NCAA tourney and winning game after game including one which was deemed an instant classic by nearly every pundit in the nation? God knows we should have thrown in the towel long ago. You...You are something special and that keen insight should do you well in life. Really couldn't tell if you were A) fishing B) f@cking stupid C) a jock sniffing beaktard. I'm leaning towards a combo of B & C.
was melting down some anger, chillax brosif
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You guys will be close again... just keep Frank away from the Mizzou co-eds!!
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Butler whipped K-State's ass, just admit it. They had a better gameplan, they executed and they played great defense. Their good defense, and our head down dribbling guards ensured that we couldn't close the deal when we forced their turnovers.
If their gameplan was for us to miss every single open mid-range jumper, numerous wide open layups, and for all our bigs to forget how to rebound, then yes, they executed it to perfection.
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Mark this down in ink: as long as we have Frank Martin at the wheel we will absolutely and positively exceed this opportunity and circumstance again. We will proceed to the Final Four with Frank (and maybe even win it all).
Now, I'm not a Pollyanna sunshine pumper. So read on.
Clemente was/is a huge cog in this year's machine. As one who appreciates the boricua spirit* that burns inside him, he was an artist on the floor for us. There's no replacing Denis Clemente - he will be sorely missed and I'm so sad to see his playing days end at K-State (I'm hoping Coach signs him on as a grad assistant for next year - see comments below). We will struggle next year at moments given that we will PG by committee. It may be painful, even moreso if Jake had never played at the 1 spot, but he has.
I wish Spradling had a year to play with Clemente because I think that's our hope for 2011 and beyond at PG - but I digress.
Frank demands results. If you think that Frank was not invested yesterday, then go back and watch the video on his pre-game and half-time talks. He knew and stressed for the men that opportunities MUST be seized. He will demand and work toward results no matter what the other variables around him are. If 'Te 420K leaves, guess what? Frank will find a way to recruit with the tools around him.
Someone mentioned that the bigs all choked. Uh, brethren, Curt Kelly became a man (sorry for the cliché) before our eyes during this tournament. If he can do that consistently next year, we have a leg up on the Big XII (assuming Aldrich is gone and Udoh considers bolting). JamSam is a sophomore (remember that?). 'Nique is the topic of a separate post to come later. I also believe that Freddy and Wally are going to do great things next year - we may go with the tallest lineup in the Big XII (country?) at times next year.
We may or may not see the Elite 8 next year - most of that will be determined by one Mr. Jake "Fear the Beard" Pullen and the level of leadership, consistency, and commitment he chooses to demonstrate. But, mark my words, we WILL come this way again, and we will cross that bridge to the Final 4 again (which we have not done in my lifetime) - IF and only if, we retain one Mr. Frank Martin.
Sorry for the ramble, but I've been drinking and on vacation for a few days - I had to do it. :drink:
*mistakenly typed "spirits," of course, Denis may very well have 'boricua spirits' (preferably Don Q or something similar) in him at this moment, but I meant to refer to his 'espíritu boricua.'
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Kstate was fatigued. They showed it the moment the ball was tipped.
They couldn't whip Ksu's ass since Ksu was too busy dragging its own ass on the floor.
BTW - I'm not subscribing to this line of reasoning. No excuses. Butler outplayed us, beat us, kicked our behinds. We couldn't hit a shot and we have to give credit to Butler for that. We also let them make shots almost at will. That little cut to the basket by their forward (who's man was THAT?, 'Nique?, Curt?, Louie?, Wally?) absolutely killed us.
Had to put in my $.02 regarding this since I'm awake, drinking and got the fingers warmed up.
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Kstate was fatigued. They showed it the moment the ball was tipped.
They couldn't whip Ksu's ass since Ksu was too busy dragging its own ass on the floor.
BTW - I'm not subscribing to this line of reasoning. No excuses. Butler outplayed us, beat us, kicked our behinds. We couldn't hit a shot and we have to give credit to Butler for that. We also let them make shots almost at will. That little cut to the basket by their forward (who's man was THAT?, 'Nique?, Curt?, Louie?, Wally?) absolutely killed us.
Had to put in my $.02 regarding this since I'm awake, drinking and got the fingers warmed up.
When there's a ridiculous defensive breakdown, I just blame Rodney. Seems to work out for me most of the time.
Also, I'm telling you, Big 12 is down next year. If Udoh leaves and Pullen comes back (no reason to think otherwise at present), we'll be the best of a flawed bunch. Reasonable expectation for next year would be Big 12 title and round of 16. Anything beyond that is dependent upon us finding a miraculous 5* point guard in the next couple of months.
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Kstate was fatigued. They showed it the moment the ball was tipped.
They couldn't whip Ksu's ass since Ksu was too busy dragging its own ass on the floor.
BTW - I'm not subscribing to this line of reasoning. No excuses. Butler outplayed us, beat us, kicked our behinds. We couldn't hit a shot and we have to give credit to Butler for that. We also let them make shots almost at will. That little cut to the basket by their forward (who's man was THAT?, 'Nique?, Curt?, Louie?, Wally?) absolutely killed us.
Had to put in my $.02 regarding this since I'm awake, drinking and got the fingers warmed up.
When there's a ridiculous defensive breakdown, I just blame Rodney. Seems to work out for me most of the time.
Also, I'm telling you, Big 12 is down next year. If Udoh leaves and Pullen comes back (no reason to think otherwise at present), we'll be the best of a flawed bunch. Reasonable expectation for next year would be Big 12 title and round of 16. Anything beyond that is dependent upon us finding a miraculous 5* point guard in the next couple of months.
don't know if i'll every 'expect' a conf title. it's unreasonable to think we have had a terrible season by not winning big 12 title. though next year should be our best chance in the last 25 or so years. so warm up the 'history awaits' billboards.
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Bump.
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Bump.
Horrible, horrible bump.
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Bump.
Horrible, horrible bump.
eff you.
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Bump.
Horrible, horrible bump.
eff you.
Weird, more PI!!! Highly unusual!!! :runaway:
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Butler whipped K-State's ass, just admit it. They had a better gameplan, they executed and they played great defense. Their good defense, and our head down dribbling guards ensured that we couldn't close the deal when we forced their turnovers.
Butler also played a team that had just got done winning a late-night, double OT game that, statistically, has teams losing the following game in the tournament. When Pullen said "all I could do was stare at the ceiling all night", I believe that coming off an emotional roller-coaster would have prevented me from getting any sleep too.
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Shouldn't this have only got bumped if we did really good or really bad in the tourney? Bad timing IMO