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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: OK_Cat on July 11, 2013, 02:56:21 PM
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reagan
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obviously
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prolly Grant
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grant was def a huge pussy
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Taft, fat eff
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Hoover
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The guy before Wefald
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Obama :peek:
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washington
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Reagan probably had more negative impact than any of them, but he did some good too. Bush didn't really do anything helpful, so it's a toss-up I guess.
Note: I know pretty much nothing about presidents before I was born, and don't really care either.
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LBJ has to go down as one of the worst.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States
That Fillmore-Pierce-Buchanan trifecta, woof. No wonder we had a civil war.
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Barry is trying his darndest for 1st place in this category
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Barry is trying his darndest for 1st place in this category
worst time ever to be president.
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Barry is trying his darndest for 1st place in this category
worst time ever to be president.
1980 was worse. The recession was over in 2009, right? Summer of Recovery, baby!
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Harding is the worst and I don't think it's very close.
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Polk. He is the biggest jerk ever. I cannot stand him. If I saw him on the street walking around today, i'd poke him in the eyes and boo the crap out of him.
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Polk. He is the biggest jerk ever. I cannot stand him. If I saw him on the street walking around today, i'd poke him in the eyes and boo the crap out of him.
we do need more booing in everyday life.
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Polk. He is the biggest jerk ever. I cannot stand him. If I saw him on the street walking around today, i'd poke him in the eyes and boo the crap out of him.
Polk was a great president. Pretty much the only one to do everything he said he would do.
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LBJ has to go down as one of the worst.
Aside from Vietnam (lol), he is probably one of the greatest. Also Nixon committed treason to keep the war going under his watch, so I almost give him a pass in a weird way.
Maybe Hayes because his election is rumored to have been leveraged with the removal of Federal troops from the south. I'd also have to put Andrew Jackson in the running because of his all out illegal assault on Native Americans in Georgia as President.
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The guy before Wefald
Definitely.
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george bush is the worst by far. War criminal. And just an absolutely idiot.
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Sometimes tapatalk does weird things identifying quotes. This one makes dax look like a crazy person.
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just an absolutely idiot.
:D
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Sometimes tapatalk does weird things identifying quotes. This one makes dax look like a crazy person.
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Explain.
Remember, I was old enough to watch and understand when what was happening when the helicopters were taking off and landing on the roof of the embassy in Saigon. One of the reasons that was happening in 1975 and not earlier was Nixon. The reason it was happening at all was LBJ.
Look at the picture. Tapatalk attributed the quote to the wrong person, so it looks like you are having a major disagreement with yourself.
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so it looks like you are having a major disagreement with yourself.
i feel like this has happened before?
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LBJ has to go down as one of the worst.
Aside from Vietnam (lol), he is probably one of the greatest. Also Nixon committed treason to keep the war going under his watch, so I almost give him a pass in a weird way.
Maybe Hayes because his election is rumored to have been leveraged with the removal of Federal troops from the south. I'd also have to put Andrew Jackson in the running because of his all out illegal assault on Native Americans in Georgia as President.
So because you think Nixon committed treason to "keep the war going" you'd almost give LBJ a pass. Yet it was LBJ who rolled a half a million troops into Vietnam based upon a false flag incident, and then handed over what would be billions of dollars worth of contracts today to his political creators who would eventually become part of Halliburton (sound familiar?). A war that nearly started a civil war in the United States, ripped the country to shreds politically and killed over 50K Americans and hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese, and destabilized the region for years upon years to come killing millions more. Fascinating.
There are also some who would argue Nixon was one of our greatest presidents except for, you know, that whole secret bombing and break-in issue.
I said I would almost give him a pass, not that I would, ultimately he made the decisions as C&C. Its an interesting counterfactual to contemplate how the war would have run, and ultimately how it would be viewed if we actually had 'peace with honor' and 20k more service people coming home whole.
Also it really makes you look silly when you call the Tonkin incident a false flag operation. For starters its not a false flag operation because US forces did not act or impersonate NVA forces in the 2nd attack on the Maddox. So just by the basic operation of the phrase you're off. In reality though there was an attack on the first day, that is pretty much without dispute. Now the 'good' history now points to a failure of systems and a political machine chomping at the bit to exploit those failures into their own justification for armed conflict.
You make an interesting point about the expansion of the military industrial complex. I don't remember if it was NPR or BBC had piece some months back about the history of the MIC, where they did a great job of explaining that the military wasn't necessarily the driver of the system but rather politicians in congress looking for every kind of program for defense contractors in their home districts and bases to be opened which really caused a lot of bloating in the armed forces.
LBJ tapes
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21768668
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Andrew Jackson - trail o' tears
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I vote George Washington. The dude could have had a 3rd and a 4th term but decided quit on his country after 2. The US was not founded founded for quitters.
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speaking of LBJ, let's take a look at the USS Liberty situation.
LBJ was a POS.
And edn, no s#!t on the politicians having a hand in growing the MIC. You think it was about "bases in their home district"? :facepalm:
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speaking of LBJ, let's take a look at the USS Liberty situation.
LBJ was a POS.
And edn, no hullabaloo on the politicians have a hand in growing MIC. You think it was about "bases in their home district"? :facepalm:
More about the binderburgs IYAM.
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Dax is old as eff.
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Andrew Jackson - trail o' tears
that's a good one.
Johnson was pretty crooked tho, fwiw
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Dax is old as eff.
Its amazing how good of a bbs'r he is
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no 8man, I wasn't asking you. The post points out a factual event...
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no 8man, I wasn't asking you. The post points out a factual event...
Sorry for not taking the dk dome seriously enough
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Carter
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no 8man, I wasn't asking you. The post points out a factual event...
Sorry for not taking the dk dome seriously enough
it's cool, bro. Here, hit this... :bigtoke:
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Polk. He is the biggest jerk ever. I cannot stand him. If I saw him on the street walking around today, i'd poke him in the eyes and boo the crap out of him.
Polk was a great president. Pretty much the only one to do everything he said he would do.
The Mexican American war was shameful.
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The Mexican American war was shameful.
the shameful part was not annexing all of mexico.
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The Mexican American war was shameful.
the shameful part was not annexing all of mexico.
qft. We wouldn't have to worry about illegal immigration
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"We own Tamaulipas" doesn't have quite the same ring to it though.
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In the last 50 years its going to be a photo finish between Obama and Carter. Before thatprolly FDR or Woodrow Wilson or Millard Philmore.
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In the last 50 years its going to be a photo finish between Obama and Carter. Before thatprolly FDR or Woodrow Wilson or Millard Philmore.
lol
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The absolute worst.
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The Mexican American war was shameful.
the shameful part was not annexing all of mexico.
I agree. Polk only wanted the crappy, uninhabited land because he was a racist POS.
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The Mexican American war was shameful.
the shameful part was not annexing all of mexico.
I agree. Polk only wanted the crappy, uninhabited land because he was a racist POS.
yes.
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The Mexican American war was shameful.
the shameful part was not annexing all of mexico.
qft. We wouldn't have to worry about illegal immigration
We would. Our country would be so boss that the Canadians would be flooding the border.
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you guys missed the point of this thread. it wasn't a question. reagan was the worst. thanks go cats
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you guys missed the point of this thread. it wasn't a question. reagan was the worst. thanks go cats
You shouldn't have used a question mark in the thread title, then.
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ended with a statement, nuts kicked. :excited:
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you guys missed the point of this thread. it wasn't a question. reagan was the worst. thanks go cats
Reagan ended the cold war without firing a shot. Total stud.
FDR was pretty bad.
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you guys missed the point of this thread. it wasn't a question. reagan was the worst. thanks go cats
Reagan ended the cold war without firing a shot. Total stud.
FDR was pretty bad.
Reagan happened to be president when the Soviet pyramid scheme imploded.
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you guys missed the point of this thread. it wasn't a question. reagan was the worst. thanks go cats
Reagan ended the cold war without firing a shot. Total stud.
FDR was pretty bad.
Reagan happened to be president when the Soviet pyramid scheme imploded.
He suckered them into a race of money. A race they couldn't win.
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you guys missed the point of this thread. it wasn't a question. reagan was the worst. thanks go cats
Reagan ended the cold war without firing a shot. Total stud.
FDR was pretty bad.
Reagan happened to be president when the Soviet pyramid scheme imploded.
He suckered them into a race of money. A race they couldn't win.
Star Wars was a brilliant idea.
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I love "________________ happened to be president when . . ." statements.
Richard Nixon happened to be president when some people broke in to Watergate Hotel.
Bill Clinton happened to be president when according to Ms. Lewinsky, she performed oral sex on the President on nine occasions. On all nine of those occasions, the President fondled and kissed her bare breasts. He touched her genitals, both through her underwear and directly, bringing her to orgasm on two occasions.
George W. Bush happened to be president when the United States suffered the worst attack on American soil since Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.
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Team #MIC
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I can't believe this thread has gone on this long without a single mention of Millard Fillmore. eff that dude and his anti-Masonic bigotry.
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Jefferson Davis was the worst president
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I assume the FDR votes are just people trolling liberals. FDR was one of the best Presidents of all-time. Pretty much every legitimate list I've ever seen has FDR in the top five.
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I assume the FDR votes are just people trolling liberals. FDR was one of the best Presidents of all-time. Pretty much every legitimate list I've ever seen has FDR in the top five.
he didnt handle the depression that well
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FDR was the Axis Power's biggest benefactor.
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John Adams
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George W Bush.
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I like how the best and worst are always from a long time ago (on the wiki lists). That way you know they're unbiased.
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George W Bush.
Bush started a streak of terrible Presidents unseen since our nation's founding. Barry obviously has continued on and we'll see who's next. It's going to get ugly.
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John Adams
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Our last president that truly served the people of the United States was John F Kennedy. Everybody since is just another puppet who is controlled by the corporate elite. Fact.
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Our last president that truly served the people of the United States was John F Kennedy. Everybody since is just another puppet who is controlled by the corporate elite. Fact.
correct
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Our last president that truly served the people of the United States was John F Kennedy. Everybody since is just another puppet who is controlled by the corporate elite. Fact.
i suppose that's why kennedy was murdered, right?
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Our last president that truly served the people of the United States was John F Kennedy. Everybody since is just another puppet who is controlled by the corporate elite. Fact.
i suppose that's why kennedy was murdered, right?
more than likely
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I can't believe this thread has gone on this long without a single mention of Millard Fillmore. eff that dude and his anti-Masonic bigotry.
Sugar Dick did, dipshit.
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Our last president that truly served the people of the United States was John F Kennedy. Everybody since is just another puppet who is controlled by the corporate elite. Fact.
i suppose that's why kennedy was murdered, right?
I think they (criminal elements within the military industrial complex) killed him because he did not follow orders like a good puppet they thought he was going to be. His speech on secret societies is basically calling out the Illuminati and their control and influence over the mind of man etc.
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Interesting if accurate
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I think it's funny that when you ask your average "patriotic" American who the best president is, they always go with the guy that was also an actor.
Would Ron Prince be one of the most loved presidents? Probably loved no more or less than the president that kills millions of brown people with foreign policy, destroys civil rights through spying on citizens, dumps billions of dollars on big business while simultaneously raping medium and lower class citizens with hidden taxes, incarcerated more non-violent criminals than any president in history, but makes up for it with liberals by getting teary eyed over Trayvon Martin or publicly stating he supports same sex marriage.
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:sdeek:
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John Adams
:confused:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_and_Sedition_Acts
1 term pres, didn't get along with anyone.
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you are off your rocker if you think John Adams is the worst president. he wasn't perfect - the Alien and Sedition Acts were certainly constitutionally suspect (although we didn't have judicial review yet so "constitutionally suspect" didn't mean a whole lot).
Also - he was a one term president because he lost to Thomas Jefferson. It's not like he got beat by Rick Perry or something.
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Still Obama.