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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: sys on April 24, 2013, 09:49:02 AM
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so it's hard to impossible to predict how good the team can be. but if we assume they are all more or less standard goodish three star freshmen, i don't see this team getting into the nit.
1. gotta have a pg. nope.
2. gotta have three scorers/shooters. got two, and neither of the two is a reliable scorer at the big 12 level.
3. gotta be able to defend. lost the best four defenders from last year. no returning shot blocker and half the team will be new.
doesn't look like an nit team to me.
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looks like a pile of garbage and I feel bad for our non-garbagey guys who didn't sign up for this crap
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looks like a pile of garbage and I feel bad for our non-garbagey guys who didn't sign up for this crap
Gip and Shane :frown:
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experience is important as well, less so when you're ultra talented, but important none the less and should be mentioned here as a possible addendum to your list
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Shannon and Will got their wish. It's Will's team now, results be damned.
eff Shannon. eff Will. eff oscar. eff John Currie. They deserve each other but they DO NOT deserve us.
I just hope Shane finally snaps and drops one or all of those cunts.
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Most significant off season of transition since going into 08-09.
One of the 3stars has be a real DITR, or the trio of Gip/Will/Shane must all get better. The inexperience at PG is the biggest concern, Will isn't the answer there. He can be serviceable at SG, but if will gets significant PG minutes it will likely be ugly.
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i could see this team getting into the NIT. scheduling is pretty important and if they schedule gonzaga along with a bunch of scrubs then we could go 12-1 or something in non-con and 8-10 in con. that would be NIT worthy.
i can't however imagine how someone would think that this team would be better on either side of the ball though with what they've lost coupled with the sheer volume of newcomers.
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some say scheduling "in some respects be more important than recruiting"
these people are called losers
our HC is one
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i can't however imagine how someone would think that this team would be better on either side of the ball though with what they've lost coupled with the sheer volume of newcomers.
:D
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i can't however imagine how someone would think that this team would be better on either side of the ball though with what they've lost coupled with the sheer volume of newcomers.
:D
:peek:
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Most significant off season of transition since going into 08-09.
One of the 3stars has be a real DITR, or the trio of Gip/Will/Shane must all get better. The inexperience at PG is the biggest concern, Will isn't the answer there. He can be serviceable at SG, but if will gets significant PG minutes it will likely be ugly.
A shooting guard who can't shoot isn't what I would call "serviceable."
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Most significant off season of transition since going into 08-09.
One of the 3stars has be a real DITR, or the trio of Gip/Will/Shane must all get better. The inexperience at PG is the biggest concern, Will isn't the answer there. He can be serviceable at SG, but if will gets significant PG minutes it will likely be ugly.
A shooting guard who can't shoot isn't what I would call "serviceable."
40% in Big 12 play this year, 36% for the season. Not great, but not "can't shoot" either. We'll see how he does with more pressure next year.
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Most significant off season of transition since going into 08-09.
One of the 3stars has be a real DITR, or the trio of Gip/Will/Shane must all get better. The inexperience at PG is the biggest concern, Will isn't the answer there. He can be serviceable at SG, but if will gets significant PG minutes it will likely be ugly.
A shooting guard who can't shoot isn't what I would call "serviceable."
40% in Big 12 play this year, 36% for the season. Not great, but not "can't shoot" either. We'll see how he does with more pressure next year.
in fairness, kougar might have meant "can't shoot" as in actually physically being unable and/or unwilling to shoot. like play 40 minutes in a game and not take a shot "can't shoot".
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Most significant off season of transition since going into 08-09.
One of the 3stars has be a real DITR, or the trio of Gip/Will/Shane must all get better. The inexperience at PG is the biggest concern, Will isn't the answer there. He can be serviceable at SG, but if will gets significant PG minutes it will likely be ugly.
A shooting guard who can't shoot isn't what I would call "serviceable."
40% in Big 12 play this year, 36% for the season. Not great, but not "can't shoot" either. We'll see how he does with more pressure next year.
in fairness, kougar might have meant "can't shoot" as in actually physically being unable and/or unwilling to shoot. like play 40 minutes in a game and not take a shot "can't shoot".
Well, he should've said "won't shoot" then. And in that case, I'd be a little more likely to concur.
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Most significant off season of transition since going into 08-09.
One of the 3stars has be a real DITR, or the trio of Gip/Will/Shane must all get better. The inexperience at PG is the biggest concern, Will isn't the answer there. He can be serviceable at SG, but if will gets significant PG minutes it will likely be ugly.
A shooting guard who can't shoot isn't what I would call "serviceable."
40% in Big 12 play this year, 36% for the season. Not great, but not "can't shoot" either. We'll see how he does with more pressure next year.
in fairness, kougar might have meant "can't shoot" as in actually physically being unable and/or unwilling to shoot. like play 40 minutes in a game and not take a shot "can't shoot".
That too. He also is woefully unable to guard most other teams' SGs, so there's that.
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Most significant off season of transition since going into 08-09.
One of the 3stars has be a real DITR, or the trio of Gip/Will/Shane must all get better. The inexperience at PG is the biggest concern, Will isn't the answer there. He can be serviceable at SG, but if will gets significant PG minutes it will likely be ugly.
A shooting guard who can't shoot isn't what I would call "serviceable."
It's fine, the motion offense will resolve that.
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Most significant off season of transition since going into 08-09.
One of the 3stars has be a real DITR, or the trio of Gip/Will/Shane must all get better. The inexperience at PG is the biggest concern, Will isn't the answer there. He can be serviceable at SG, but if will gets significant PG minutes it will likely be ugly.
A shooting guard who can't shoot isn't what I would call "serviceable."
40% in Big 12 play this year, 36% for the season. Not great, but not "can't shoot" either. We'll see how he does with more pressure next year.
After 2/23 where he went 2 of 3 at Texas:
1 of 5 vs. T Tech
0 of 1 @ Baylor
DNP vs. TCU
2 of 3 @ OSU (Throw up a prayer shots when the game was already over)
1 of 3 vs. Texas
0 of 3 vs. OSU
0 of 2 vs. KU
0 of 1 vs. La Salle
4 of 18 during that stretch and the 2 in Stillwater were meaningless. Couldn't defend vs. La Salle either. I know there were league games where he went 5 of 9 in but man, the way he ended the season just was atrocious.
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After 2/23 where he went 2 of 3 at Texas:
1 of 5 vs. T Tech
0 of 1 @ Baylor
DNP vs. TCU
2 of 3 @ OSU (Throw up a prayer shots when the game was already over)
1 of 3 vs. Texas
0 of 3 vs. OSU
0 of 2 vs. KU
0 of 1 vs. La Salle
4 of 18 during that stretch and the 2 in Stillwater were meaningless. Couldn't defend vs. La Salle either. I know there were league games where he went 5 of 9 in but man, the way he ended the season just was atrocious.
Good stuff. He's always been up and down during his career, last year had a significant up swing to even out plenty of bad shooting.
Again, I was simply making the statement that Will can be "serviceable" at SG. I think its pretty clear at least 2 of the FR guards better be able to play well; of course if next year's team is relying on Will too much it will get ugly.
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constant will hate is tiresome. he's not great and never will be. we all understand that. be mad at oscar and frank for not finding someone better if you want. it's not like sg is our only position that's going to suck ballsacks next year.
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constant will hate is tiresome. he's not great and never will be. we all understand that. be mad at oscar and frank for not finding someone better if you want. it's not like sg is our only position that's going to suck ballsacks next year.
probably the suckiest of players on the media guide cover and billboards on I-70 though.
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Hey Shannon I know you're reading this thread. Just want you to know something.
Not long after you and I meet face to face I will be arrested, and for good cause.
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10-2 + 7-11 = NIT
I think we can do it, you guys!
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constant will hate is tiresome. he's not great and never will be. we all understand that. be mad at oscar and frank for not finding someone better if you want. it's not like sg is our only position that's going to suck ballsacks next year.
Gosh, somebody around here said that 2 years ago or so, Frankites didn't like it very much.
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10-2 + 7-11 = NIT
I think we can do it, you guys!
that is some wooly math right there, bubble watch threads are the new bracketology.
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so it's hard to impossible to predict how good the team can be. but if we assume they are all more or less standard goodish three star freshmen, i don't see this team getting into the nit.
1. gotta have a pg. nope.
2. gotta have three scorers/shooters. got two, and neither of the two is a reliable scorer at the big 12 level.
3. gotta be able to defend. lost the best four defenders from last year. no returning shot blocker and half the team will be new.
doesn't look like an nit team to me.
On a lot of this it seems like certain individuals may be weaker than those they're replacing, but collectively they might be better. Frank's recruits weren't desribed as good shooters. oscar's are. Maybe a few of them will be able to come in and hit some threes, even if none are as good as Rodney individually. And maybe none won't be as good at pressure man defense as some of the departed players, but oscar obviously employs more of a team defense strategy. How hard is that to learn? Plus, we do have SOME important players returning. It's pretty hard to imagine winning the conference one year and missing the NIT the next.
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so it's hard to impossible to predict how good the team can be. but if we assume they are all more or less standard goodish three star freshmen, i don't see this team getting into the nit.
1. gotta have a pg. nope.
2. gotta have three scorers/shooters. got two, and neither of the two is a reliable scorer at the big 12 level.
3. gotta be able to defend. lost the best four defenders from last year. no returning shot blocker and half the team will be new.
doesn't look like an nit team to me.
On a lot of this it seems like certain individuals may be weaker than those they're replacing, but collectively they might be better. Frank's recruits weren't desribed as good shooters. oscar's are. Maybe a few of them will be able to come in and hit some threes, even if none are as good as Rodney individually. And maybe none won't be as good at pressure man defense as some of the departed players, but oscar obviously employs more of a team defense strategy. How hard is that to learn? Plus, we do have SOME important players returning. It's pretty hard to imagine winning the conference one year and missing the NIT the next.
Not exactly the same, but UK won the NC last yr and lost the first round of the NIT to the lowest NIT seed this year. How did they do it? Well, you see, they lost a lot of players and replaced them with a lot of new players that will eventually be playing in the NBA.
We didn't win the NC this season, so maybe we have a chance of not creating such a disparity between this yr's achievements and next year's. :dunno: I mean, we may be picking up a kid with NBA potential according to Stan.
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How bad is our perimeter defense going to be next year? Too bad we don't have a shot blocker who can help out when other teams penetrate.
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so it's hard to impossible to predict how good the team can be. but if we assume they are all more or less standard goodish three star freshmen, i don't see this team getting into the nit.
1. gotta have a pg. nope.
2. gotta have three scorers/shooters. got two, and neither of the two is a reliable scorer at the big 12 level.
3. gotta be able to defend. lost the best four defenders from last year. no returning shot blocker and half the team will be new.
doesn't look like an nit team to me.
On a lot of this it seems like certain individuals may be weaker than those they're replacing, but collectively they might be better. Frank's recruits weren't desribed as good shooters. oscar's are. Maybe a few of them will be able to come in and hit some threes, even if none are as good as Rodney individually. And maybe none won't be as good at pressure man defense as some of the departed players, but oscar obviously employs more of a team defense strategy. How hard is that to learn? Plus, we do have SOME important players returning. It's pretty hard to imagine winning the conference one year and missing the NIT the next.
A season like WVU or UT just had seems most likely. Shane is really the only thing next years cat team will have that those two didn't and both had much more size than we will.
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constant will hate is tiresome. he's not great and never will be. we all understand that. be mad at oscar and frank for not finding someone better if you want. it's not like sg is our only position that's going to suck ballsacks next year.
I am mad at Frank for recruiting him (and then not recruiting over him). And I never said SG was the only position that would suck ballsacks next year.
And I'll let you know when hating on Will becomes tiresome.
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Not exactly the same, but UK won the NC last yr and lost the first round of the NIT to the lowest NIT seed this year. How did they do it? Well, you see, they lost a lot of players and replaced them with a lot of new players that will eventually be playing in the NBA.
We didn't win the NC this season, so maybe we have a chance of not creating such a disparity between this yr's achievements and next year's. :dunno: I mean, we may be picking up a kid with NBA potential according to Stan.
Also, Baylor '10 (28-8, Elite 8, tied for 2nd Big 12 with us) to Baylor '11 (18-13, 7-9, 7th Big 12, no postseason).
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Not exactly the same, but UK won the NC last yr and lost the first round of the NIT to the lowest NIT seed this year. How did they do it? Well, you see, they lost a lot of players and replaced them with a lot of new players that will eventually be playing in the NBA.
We didn't win the NC this season, so maybe we have a chance of not creating such a disparity between this yr's achievements and next year's. :dunno: I mean, we may be picking up a kid with NBA potential according to Stan.
Also, Baylor '10 (28-8, Elite 8, tied for 2nd Big 12 with us) to Baylor '11 (18-13, 7-9, 7th Big 12, no postseason).
hmm, maybe I'm being optimistic.
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It's also hard for me to comprehend those cases. Because it's very unusual, which is probably the point.
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It's also hard for me to comprehend those cases. Because it's very unusual, which is probably the point.
I think the situation oscar has been in is very unusual.
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It's also hard for me to comprehend those cases. Because it's very unusual, which is probably the point.
I think the situation oscar has been in is very unusual.
I'm good with making no predictions of any kind.
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What would be unusual, imo, would be losing a bunch of players(two of which being the most important on this year's team), replacing them with 2 and 3 star frosh, then making the NCAA's while relying heavily on at least two of those frosh as starters.
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We should be faster this year, So their is a chance our defensive rotations are better. Our offense is going to really drop off. We are really going have to lean on Shane and this so called NBA potential mystery recruit. Our defense and rebounding needs to be better if we want a fighting chance at a NCAA bid. I won't bet straight up on it.
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I don't believe this so called mystery recruit has anything close to nba talent.
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I don't believe this so called mystery recruit has anything close to nba talent.
Yeah, we are most likely heading for, at very least, mild disappointment with this discussion.
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It's also hard for me to comprehend those cases. Because it's very unusual, which is probably the point.
the whole thing is pretty unusual though.
kicking out a succesful head coach (frank)
replacing him with a guy that just got fired for sucking (oscar)
sophomore all conf leaving a team that just won a conf championship (angel)
going from conf champs to NIT (maybe)
"kstate! doing the unusual!"-2013/2014 emaw hoops marketing campaign
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constant will hate is tiresome. he's not great and never will be. we all understand that. be mad at oscar and frank for not finding someone better if you want. it's not like sg is our only position that's going to suck ballsacks next year.
I am all for being mad at a puppy for being a puppy AND being mad at the owners for not training it better or putting it down and getting a better puppy.
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Who will be the late play clock guy this season after we burn thru 28 seconds of the shot clock on O? One of the fr pgs?
I hope Shane does a ton of work on his iso game from the top of the key, maybe watch some tape of LeBron from when he was in Cleveland
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I'm really looking forward to watching Gonzaga push our crap in at Intrust next year. I think I'm gonna buy a WSU Final 4 shirt just so I can wear it to that game.
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We have a myscruit?
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We have a myscruit?
This what we have to rely on for a postseason tourny in '13-'14
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woefully unable to guard most other teams' SGs
love it, that's what keeps them coming back. i expected a horrific to appear in the thread also, but oh well.
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Most significant off season of transition since going into 08-09.
One of the 3stars has be a real DITR, or the trio of Gip/Will/Shane must all get better. The inexperience at PG is the biggest concern, Will isn't the answer there. He can be serviceable at SG, but if will gets significant PG minutes it will likely be ugly.
A shooting guard who can't shoot isn't what I would call "serviceable."
40% in Big 12 play this year, 36% for the season. Not great, but not "can't shoot" either. We'll see how he does with more pressure next year.
Does KENPOM take into account that Will only shoots when he is wide open and if he is going to be a scorer he will have to shoot when he is being guarded? Does he? Huh? DOES HE? :tongue:
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woefully unable to guard most other teams' SGs
love it, that's what keeps them coming back. i expected a horrific to appear in the thread also, but oh well.
A horrific what?
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i dunno, a horrific anything. just expected someone to at least drop at least one "horrific" in a thread when discussing Doc.
i mean, saying he's unable to guard most other teams SGs says it all, you know? but it's the clever interjection of the word "woefully" into the sentence that really hammers home the point.
will isn't a great shooter. will is a bad shooter. will's shooting has been horrific.
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i dunno, a horrific anything. just expected someone to at least drop at least one "horrific" in a thread when discussing Doc.
i mean, saying he's unable to guard most other teams SGs says it all, you know? but it's the clever interjection of the word "woefully" into the sentence that really hammers home the point.
will isn't a great shooter. will is a bad shooter. will's shooting has been horrific.
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i should have mentioned williams. i think he can score. so you could put 3 scorers on the court, but a lineup of gippy, southie, williams and whoever the guards are would look to be a defensive nightmare.
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williams, as in nino? :dubious:
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williams, as in nino? :dubious:
that's right.
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Nino plays 14 mins per game at the most.
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Nino plays 14 mins per game at the most.
Just who the eff do you think plays on this team?
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Big 12 minutes Projection
1: Jevon 30 mins, Nigel 10 mins
2: Will 27 mins, Nigel 13 mins
3: Foster 25 mins, Shane 5 mins, Omari 10 mins
4: Shane 30 mins, Nino 10 mins
5: Gip 25 mins, DJamer 15 mins
:dunno: Something like that
Would like Nigel to eat as many of wills minutes as he can. Hope Westicles can plays some three and Fincher can contribute a little.
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Big 12 minutes Projection
1: Jevon 30 mins, Nigel 10 mins
2: Will 27 mins, Nigel 13 mins
3: Foster 25 mins, Shane 5 mins, Omari 10 mins
4: Shane 30 mins, Nino 10 mins
5: Gip 25 mins, DJamer 15 mins
:dunno: Something like that
Would like Nigel to eat as many of wills minutes as he can. Hope Westicles can plays some three and Fincher can contribute a little.
lol at almost all of that.
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constant will hate is tiresome. he's not great and never will be. we all understand that. be mad at oscar and frank for not finding someone better if you want. it's not like sg is our only position that's going to suck ballsacks next year.
Gosh, somebody around here said that 2 years ago or so, Frankites didn't like it very much.
God, shut up. Plenty of posters have pointed that out several times.
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I just hope we get the good Nino next year.
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I'm concerned that Shane will regress. I don't see him as a primary scorer and I think his game will suffer with increased responsibility. Sorry Shane :cry:
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I'm concerned that Shane will regress. I don't see him as a primary scorer and I think his game will suffer with increased responsibility. Sorry Shane :cry:
he'll probably be a better player and put up significantly worse numbers. seems extremely likely.
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I just hope we get the good Nino next year.
Yes. Having the good Nino would be very good. Damned good, in fact. :)
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I just hope we get the good Nino next year.
Yes. Having the good Nino would be very good. Damned good, in fact. :)
Nino has only been good when the other team refuses to box him out. That is the only way he can score in the post, trash points, because he's not near quick enough or a good enough ball handler to take it to the rim, and he is way too short to post anybody up down low. Nino's jumper is working about once every five games. In those other games, he's taking too many shots that other players could be taking and making. Also, he is too short to defend anybody straight up, and does not appear to have the leaping ability to front his man and try to deflect/steal the lob. In short, there is no "Good Nino", occasionally there are teams that don't care to guard him (when his jumper is falling) or box him out, and this creates an illusion of the mythical "Good Nino."
BAD NINO
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I'm concerned that Shane will regress. I don't see him as a primary scorer and I think his game will suffer with increased responsibility. Sorry Shane :cry:
he'll probably be a better player and put up significantly worse numbers. seems extremely likely.
i can see this. but more than likely we'll see a situation where his shooting pct declines but his ppg goes up.
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constant will hate is tiresome. he's not great and never will be. we all understand that. be mad at oscar and frank for not finding someone better if you want. it's not like sg is our only position that's going to suck ballsacks next year.
Gosh, somebody around here said that 2 years ago or so, Frankites didn't like it very much.
God, shut up. Plenty of posters have pointed that out several times.
What was that, I'm still laughing at your MTV Real World analogies et. al. regarding homesickness.
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I'm concerned that Shane will regress. I don't see him as a primary scorer and I think his game will suffer with increased responsibility. Sorry Shane :cry:
he'll probably be a better player and put up significantly worse numbers. seems extremely likely.
Worse numbers? He averaged under nine per game this past season. We are going to expect 12-15 imo
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i don't care about ppg, so i wasn't thinking of it when i said numbers. i should have been more precise. i mean his suite of efficiency related stats. i especially expect his shooting % to go down. i guess his ft % and rate should probably improve though.
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i don't care about ppg, so i wasn't thinking of it when i said numbers. i should have been more precise. i mean his suite of efficiency related stats. i especially expect his shooting % to go down. i guess his ft % and rate should probably improve though.
It almost has to unless one of the new guys is a fantastic scorer.
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I'm concerned that Shane will regress. I don't see him as a primary scorer and I think his game will suffer with increased responsibility. Sorry Shane :cry:
he'll probably be a better player and put up significantly worse numbers. seems extremely likely.
Worse numbers? He averaged under nine per game this past season. We are going to expect 12-15 imo
I agree he should get close to 15 a game but it seems likely there will be a reduction in efg and offensive rating as he is asked to take tougher shots and teams game plan against him. For conf games only Shane was 8th in the conference at 55.2 and 10th in offensive rating at 118.1 but only 47th in poss percentage at 18%
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Projected starting lineups for TSC next year:
'cats:
PG - Johnson/Foster
SG - Sprads
SF - Southwell
PF - Gipson
C - Johnson
'hawks:
PG - Tharpe
SG - Selden
SF - White
PF - Ellis
C - Embiid
Lots of new faces on next year's rosters, but KU will be much more inexperienced than K-State. KU could still end up getting a couple transfers from Memphis and Alabama, and maybe a '13 recruit or two, so we'll have to wait and see how everything shakes out. Is K-State planning on signing anyone else for next season? TIA.
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I'm concerned that Shane will regress. I don't see him as a primary scorer and I think his game will suffer with increased responsibility. Sorry Shane :cry:
he'll probably be a better player and put up significantly worse numbers. seems extremely likely.
Worse numbers? He averaged under nine per game this past season. We are going to expect 12-15 imo
I agree he should get close to 15 a game but it seems likely there will be a reduction in efg and offensive rating as he is asked to take tougher shots and teams game plan against him. For conf games only Shane was 8th in the conference at 55.2 and 10th in offensive rating at 118.1 but only 47th in poss percentage at 18%
He is going score more than 15 a game.
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Projected starting lineups for TSC next year:
'cats:
PG - Johnson/Foster
SG - Sprads
SF - Southwell
PF - Gipson
C - Johnson
'hawks:
PG - Tharpe
SG - Selden
SF - White
PF - Ellis
C - Embiid
Lots of new faces on next year's rosters, but KU will be much more inexperienced than K-State. KU could still end up getting a couple transfers from Memphis and Alabama, and maybe a '13 recruit or two, so we'll have to wait and see how everything shakes out. Is K-State planning on signing anyone else for next season? TIA.
Embiid will not start.
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Projected starting lineups for TSC next year:
'cats:
PG - Johnson/Foster
SG - Sprads
SF - Southwell
PF - Gipson
C - Johnson
'hawks:
PG - Tharpe
SG - Selden
SF - White
PF - Ellis
C - Embiid
Lots of new faces on next year's rosters, but KU will be much more inexperienced than K-State. KU could still end up getting a couple transfers from Memphis and Alabama, and maybe a '13 recruit or two, so we'll have to wait and see how everything shakes out. Is K-State planning on signing anyone else for next season? TIA.
Embiid will not start.
I doubt we start DJamer and Gip as well together either but that would mean starting 2 fr
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I doubt we start DJamer and Gip as well together either but that would mean starting 2 fr
Nino at PF.
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I doubt we start DJamer and Gip as well together either but that would mean starting 2 fr
Nino at PF.
And move Shane to the three? Does Statsheet or any other site have a way to see if Gip, Shane and Nino played together this past season?
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Projected starting lineups for TSC next year:
'cats:
PG - Johnson/Foster
SG - Sprads
SF - Southwell
PF - Gipson
C - Johnson
'hawks:
PG - Tharpe
SG - Selden
SF - White
PF - Ellis
C - Embiid
Lots of new faces on next year's rosters, but KU will be much more inexperienced than K-State. KU could still end up getting a couple transfers from Memphis and Alabama, and maybe a '13 recruit or two, so we'll have to wait and see how everything shakes out. Is K-State planning on signing anyone else for next season? TIA.
Embiid will not start.
I'd be surprised if he didn't. His upside is through the roof, and he gives KU a shot blocking presence down low.
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i bet self starts traylor and ellis but who knows, i haven't seen anything beyond the embiid highlights on you tube.
young pg's struggle in selfs system and tharpe will be no exception although what's rare in this case is he will be more or as experienced as the big men that he's supporting. past pg's have had experience in the paint that they were responsible for. this could lessen tharpe's learning curve.
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Foster isn't a point guard beems. Johnson and Gip? :nono: What an inaccurate projected purple basketcats' lineup. Not very TSC imo.
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i bet self starts traylor and ellis but who knows, i haven't seen anything beyond the embiid highlights on you tube.
young pg's struggle in selfs system and tharpe will be no exception although what's rare in this case is he will be more or as experienced as the big men that he's supporting. past pg's have had experience in the paint that they were responsible for. this could lessen tharpe's learning curve.
Lucas will start. Landen Lucas with Embiid backing him up. Traylor will see spot minutes at the 4 behind Ellis. Lucas is a Grade A Beefasuarus Rex Paint Monster. He is nourished only by boardfruit and terrfying blocks and rim rattling dunks. Though he does routinely eat other people's lunches as snacks. Beems doesn't know of what he speaks here. Nor 'clams.
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Projected starting lineups for TSC next year:
'cats:
PG - Johnson/Foster
SG - Sprads
SF - Southwell
PF - Gipson
C - Johnson
'hawks:
PG - Tharpe
SG - Selden
SF - White
PF - Ellis
C - Embiid
Lots of new faces on next year's rosters, but KU will be much more inexperienced than K-State. KU could still end up getting a couple transfers from Memphis and Alabama, and maybe a '13 recruit or two, so we'll have to wait and see how everything shakes out. Is K-State planning on signing anyone else for next season? TIA.
Embiid will not start.
I'd be surprised if he didn't. His upside is through the roof, and he gives KU a shot blocking presence down low.
We are projecting what the starting 5 is for the bulk conference and into March right?
I would guess in conference play for the cats we will have
Thomas - based how long he has been in the program
Sprads
Foster
Shane
Gip
I would guess Self plays Embiid more based on matchups and Traylor gets most of the starts
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i bet self starts traylor and ellis but who knows, i haven't seen anything beyond the embiid highlights on you tube.
young pg's struggle in selfs system and tharpe will be no exception although what's rare in this case is he will be more or as experienced as the big men that he's supporting. past pg's have had experience in the paint that they were responsible for. this could lessen tharpe's learning curve.
Lucas will start. Landen Lucas with Embiid backing him up. Traylor will see spot minutes at the 4 behind Ellis. Lucas is a Grade A Beefasuarus Rex Paint Monster. He is nourished only by boardfruit and terrfying blocks and rim rattling dunks. Though he does routinely eat other people's lunches as snacks. Beems doesn't know of what he speaks here. Nor 'clams.
ya you're right i forgot about him. low KUBMIQ on ol' clamsy this morning. WHERE'S MY CAFFEINE?? GET IT OVER HERE STAT!!
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Foster isn't a point guard beems. Johnson and Gip? :nono: What an inaccurate projected purple basketcats' lineup. Not very TSC imo.
Foster's a combo guard at 6'2. He could play the point. No one knows how good K-State's recruiting class will be, but on the surface, it looks like a class that would be solid for a mid major. I don't know how anyone can project the point guard position for K-State next year. As for Johnson and Gip, they're the two best returning post players for K-State. I guess Weber could go small again next year with Southwell at the four, but Southwell is going to be the go-to scorer next season for K-State. I could see Southwell moving back to the three and coming off of multiple screens, kind of how McGruder was utilized last year.
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i bet self starts traylor and ellis but who knows, i haven't seen anything beyond the embiid highlights on you tube.
young pg's struggle in selfs system and tharpe will be no exception although what's rare in this case is he will be more or as experienced as the big men that he's supporting. past pg's have had experience in the paint that they were responsible for. this could lessen tharpe's learning curve.
Lucas will start. Landen Lucas with Embiid backing him up. Traylor will see spot minutes at the 4 behind Ellis. Lucas is a Grade A Beefasuarus Rex Paint Monster. He is nourished only by boardfruit and terrfying blocks and rim rattling dunks. Though he does routinely eat other people's lunches as snacks. Beems doesn't know of what he speaks here. Nor 'clams.
Watched Lucas in a high school game up here in Oregon. He's good, but he still needs to develop some upper body strength. He redshirted last year for a reason. Embiid is a legit 7-footer who can hit threes and do between the legs dunks. He was regarded as one of the top four overall players at the recent Nike Hoops Summit (along with Wiggins and two other international prospects), and he's only been playing competitive basketball for 2 1/2 years now. Rivals just bumped Embiid to a 5-star, and after his performance at the Nike Hoops Summit, word is that Embiid could be a one and done.
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Beems, do you think your line up will be good enough to beat the Pokes?
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Beems, do you think your line up will be good enough to beat the Pokes?
Just depends on how quickly the freshmen develop and adjust to big-time D-1 hoops. Selden, Embiid, and Greene all look like guys who could make a huge impact next season. Frankcamp and Mason will likely be program players who are really, really good by their third or fourth year. Tharpe, Ellis, Traylor, White, and Lucas will have to make big improvements next season as well. I'm pretty confident in Tharpe after the way he performed at the end of last season. He's got good handles, and he can drain the outside jumpshot. Ellis came on strong towards the end of last season as well.
Oklahoma State will be good again next year, but I'm not convinced that Marcus Smart is as good as the hype would suggest. He needs to improve his shooting ability and find a way to score other than relying on officials to make calls when he jumps into the defender. Nash and Brown are good, not great. Okie State needs a legit post presence, and I still don't see that on next year's roster.
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I doubt we start DJamer and Gip as well together either but that would mean starting 2 fr
Nino at PF.
With this big of a freshman class, and so few impact players returning, I would imagine that oscar will try to get his freshman as much PT as possible. I see Westicles starting at SF. Nino is not the future at PF, so I doubt we move Shane to SF, which would effectively take Westicles out of the equation this year. Also, there is not proof that Shane would be near as effective at that position. It could just be a coincidence that Shane's leap in production came when he was moved to PF, but I doubt it.
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To be a combo guard you need to have some point guard skills. Foster doesn't. Being 6'2" doesn't make you a combo guard beems.
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they're shitty
probably just need some inspiration (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fxfinity.comcast.net%2Fblogs%2Ftv%2Ffiles%2F2010%2F07%2Fjames-gammon-Major-League-Dies.jpg&hash=2b543f67bc77d222e90447e6b98515c37355f953) <- but with wills girlfriend
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To be a combo guard you need to have some point guard skills. Foster doesn't. Being 6'2" doesn't make you a combo guard beems.
Fitz was saying Foster might split time at the pg/sg position next year. Called him a "combo guard." He also said that Jevon Thomas is a partial qualifier and won't be eligible to play until 2nd semester. That's why I've got Johnson/Foster splitting time in my projected starting rotation.
:dunno:
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Apparently Fitz has no idea what he's talking about.
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Apparently Fitz has no idea what he's talking about.
It's like you've followed Fitz for years.
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To be a combo guard you need to have some point guard skills. Foster doesn't. Being 6'2" doesn't make you a combo guard beems.
Fitz was saying Foster might split time at the pg/sg position next year. Called him a "combo guard." He also said that Jevon Thomas is a partial qualifier and won't be eligible to play until 2nd semester. That's why I've got Johnson/Foster splitting time in my projected starting rotation.
:dunno:
The HBBIQ speculation on this board has been that Foster would be better suited to play SF instead of PG, if he was going to play out of his natural position of SG.
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To be a combo guard you need to have some point guard skills. Foster doesn't. Being 6'2" doesn't make you a combo guard beems.
Fitz was saying Foster might split time at the pg/sg position next year. Called him a "combo guard." He also said that Jevon Thomas is a partial qualifier and won't be eligible to play until 2nd semester. That's why I've got Johnson/Foster splitting time in my projected starting rotation.
I see where you went wrong.
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Our best shot for being good next year is for Shane and Will to start averaging 25 points per game a piece. :horrorsurprise:
In short, we are pretty much screwed.
:curse:
Thank God for Football. :lynchmob:
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they're shitty
probably just need some inspiration (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fxfinity.comcast.net%2Fblogs%2Ftv%2Ffiles%2F2010%2F07%2Fjames-gammon-Major-League-Dies.jpg&hash=2b543f67bc77d222e90447e6b98515c37355f953) <- but with wills girlfriend
Great post, great movie
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http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/order/true?ex_cid=2012_twitter_basketball+2013+player+rankings (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/order/true?ex_cid=2012_twitter_basketball+2013+player+rankings)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-EBfWHXGoEkI/UYGFpGa21uI/AAAAAAAAAz0/MW7TwBnZqIc/w906-h552/-8.png)
:love: :love: :love:
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http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/order/true?ex_cid=2012_twitter_basketball+2013+player+rankings (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/order/true?ex_cid=2012_twitter_basketball+2013+player+rankings)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-EBfWHXGoEkI/UYGFpGa21uI/AAAAAAAAAz0/MW7TwBnZqIc/w906-h552/-8.png)
:love: :love: :love:
Man, is there anything that the SEC doesn't dominate?
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http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/order/true?ex_cid=2012_twitter_basketball+2013+player+rankings (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/order/true?ex_cid=2012_twitter_basketball+2013+player+rankings)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-EBfWHXGoEkI/UYGFpGa21uI/AAAAAAAAAz0/MW7TwBnZqIc/w906-h552/-8.png)
:love: :love: :love:
So, does this mean that you are a "stars matter" guy?
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Embiid has really shot up the rankings, Beems. :thumbs:
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Beems, grats on pulling that big C out of Gainesville. Did FL not want him?
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Embiid was the steal of the year. Great scout job by Self.
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If he was coached by billy he would play 8 mins a game and be a lottery pick. Self will hold him back and not let him play for 2 years until he ready to be a poy type. Embiid is the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that shot his own foot.
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If he was coached by billy he would play 8 mins a game and be a lottery pick. Self will hold him back and not let him play for 2 years until he ready to be a poy type. Embiid is the respect that shot his own foot.
Can I get a translation here?
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If he was coached by billy he would play 8 mins a game and be a lottery pick. Self will hold him back and not let him play for 2 years until he ready to be a poy type. Embiid is the respect that shot his own foot.
Can I get a translation here?
He is saying bill would inhibit his ability to play in the NBA in the short term, in kind of a gpc butthurt style.
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If he was coached by billy he would play 8 mins a game and be a lottery pick. Self will hold him back and not let him play for 2 years until he ready to be a poy type. Embiid is the respect that shot his own foot.
Can I get a translation here?
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If he was coached by billy he would play 8 mins a game and be a lottery pick. Self will hold him back and not let him play for 2 years until he ready to be a poy type. Embiid is the respect that shot his own foot.
Can I get a translation here?
He is saying bill would inhibit his ability to play in the NBA in the short term, in kind of a gpc butthurt style.
Not a bad trolling attempt, actually. Just needs to execute it better next time.