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Title: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2013, 10:24:59 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/2013/04/14/4181568/analysts-from-left-and-right-call.html
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on April 15, 2013, 10:34:20 AM
i'm sad that there are "right" and "left" leaning tax "analysts".
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 15, 2013, 10:38:42 AM
I really hate Sam Brownback
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 15, 2013, 11:21:13 AM
Brownback's approval rating is sitting at 37% right now. Is there any chance that he might actually lose his reelection campaign? I'm thinking probably not.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 15, 2013, 11:46:47 AM
i'm sad that there are "right" and "left" leaning tax "analysts".

Even worse are the left and right leaning "scientists" that vie for government grants.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: scottwildcat on April 15, 2013, 12:01:14 PM
Brownback's approval rating is sitting at 37% right now. Is there any chance that he might actually lose his reelection campaign? I'm thinking probably not.

probably not but who knows.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: chum1 on April 15, 2013, 12:06:38 PM
It's been a rough couple months.  Obama's 2nd term is driving our people to be crazier than they normally are.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: EMAWmeister on April 15, 2013, 12:29:28 PM
Businesses making decisions for tax reasons isn't some new concept.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: yoman on April 15, 2013, 01:27:02 PM
Does Sam Brownback hurt the image of Kansas State University? I have to think he does.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: 06wildcat on April 15, 2013, 01:45:09 PM
I do like that GTM, which outside of a couple retail locations, is entirely based in MHK and was supposedly going to build a new plant in Texas despite having excess capacity in Manhattan already.

In the entire thought process, Kansas' tax rate might have been as high as 143 on the list of things considered.

Also amusing that the best example is something that created 600 minimum-wage jobs that will likely be allocated to part-time employees.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 15, 2013, 02:10:39 PM
I do like that GTM, which outside of a couple retail locations, is entirely based in MHK and was supposedly going to build a new plant in Texas despite having excess capacity in Manhattan already.

In the entire thought process, Kansas' tax rate might have been as high as 143 on the list of things considered.

Also amusing that the best example is something that created 600 minimum-wage jobs that will likely be allocated to part-time employees.

Think of all that tax revenue Kansas is going to generate off of those 600 minimum-wage jobs, though . . .
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: CNS on April 15, 2013, 02:12:45 PM
It seemed to me that Brownback's main goal was to steal more businesses from MO.  I don't think that has happened so far, but with it only being in effect a couple months, it is still pretty early for that.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2013, 02:39:27 PM
i couldn't help but be reminded...

(http://media.kansascity.com/smedia/2012/10/18/21/42/eFIIp.St.81.jpeg)

(http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/07-minister.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: puniraptor on April 15, 2013, 02:41:14 PM
another  big win for the DPRK
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Shacks on April 15, 2013, 04:20:50 PM
Does Sam Brownback hurt the image of Kansas State University? I have to think he does.

Sam Brownback hurts the image of humans
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on April 15, 2013, 04:25:00 PM
Does Sam Brownback hurt the image of Kansas State University? I have to think he does.

Sam Brownback hurts the image of humans

 :lol:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Headinjun on April 15, 2013, 06:12:25 PM
I can see how the pass through model of business can be an incentive to some, but I don't think they should pay nothing.. At least give them .5% or something. They should contribute like the rest of us.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 15, 2013, 06:49:22 PM
I can see how the pass through model of business can be an incentive to some, but I don't think they should pay nothing.. At least give them .5% or something. They should contribute like the rest of us.

The money will either go back into the business to expand or be taxed as income by someone.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 15, 2013, 08:49:51 PM
The same paper that did the poll that said SB approval rating was 37% is the same that published the income tax reduction was going to cause a billion plus dollar deficit.  Both stats are horrificly inaccurate.  Whether you like him or not, he will win in a landslide and the state with have a surplus.  Liberals will continue to do petty and moronic things like publish the Obituary for the State of Kansas and further diminish their already trite and existence in this state.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 15, 2013, 09:22:14 PM
The same paper that did the poll that said SB approval rating was 37% is the same that published the income tax reduction was going to cause a billion plus dollar deficit.  Both stats are horrificly inaccurate.  Whether you like him or not, he will win in a landslide and the state with have a surplus.  Liberals will continue to do petty and moronic things like publish the Obituary for the State of Kansas and further diminish their already trite and existence in this state.

The poll wasn't conducted by a newspaper. It was done by Public Policy Polling, based out of North Carolina. I believe it. Brownback is really unpopular. He will still win, though, because he's not unpopular enough to lose to a democrat.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 15, 2013, 09:43:27 PM
The same paper that did the poll that said SB approval rating was 37% is the same that published the income tax reduction was going to cause a billion plus dollar deficit.  Both stats are horrificly inaccurate.  Whether you like him or not, he will win in a landslide and the state with have a surplus.  Liberals will continue to do petty and moronic things like publish the Obituary for the State of Kansas and further diminish their already trite and existence in this state.

The poll wasn't conducted by a newspaper. It was done by Public Policy Polling, based out of North Carolina. I believe it. Brownback is really unpopular. He will still win, though, because he's not unpopular enough to lose to a democrat.

You know why you shouldn't? That poll is beyond stale and has been conducted who knows how many times since, yet the same brownback heaters keep citing it.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Headinjun on April 15, 2013, 10:16:36 PM
I can see how the pass through model of business can be an incentive to some, but I don't think they should pay nothing.. At least give them .5% or something. They should contribute like the rest of us.

The money will either go back into the business to expand or be taxed as income by someone.

Or not.  Trickle down isn't always guaranteed.  Just look at the last 30 years for proof. 

Every able working adult should chip in to keep the state of Kansas functioning. 
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 15, 2013, 10:18:40 PM
I can see how the pass through model of business can be an incentive to some, but I don't think they should pay nothing.. At least give them .5% or something. They should contribute like the rest of us.

The money will either go back into the business to expand or be taxed as income by someone.

Or not.  Trickle down isn't always guaranteed.  Just look at the last 30 years for proof. 

Every able working adult should chip in to keep the state of Kansas functioning.
:dubious:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Headinjun on April 15, 2013, 10:29:41 PM
I'm not even sure exactly what that emoticon means but most Americans, at least the ones with a little education, would know that tax cuts haven't resulted into substantial growth or jobs.

The only trickle down we have gotten has puddled into overseas manufacturing and Cayman bank accounts. 

You know this.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 15, 2013, 10:31:11 PM
I'm not even sure exactly what that emoticon means but most Americans, at least the ones with a little education, would know that tax cuts haven't resulted into substantial growth or jobs.

The only trickle down we have gotten has puddled into overseas manufacturing and Cayman bank accounts. 

You know this.

Tell me more about THE MAN
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 15, 2013, 10:47:45 PM
I'd be willing to listen to a tenable argument as to how reducing the highest marginal tax rate has directly 1)adversely affected domestic manufacturing, or 2) caused the increased the use of offshore tax shelters.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 15, 2013, 11:03:26 PM
The same paper that did the poll that said SB approval rating was 37% is the same that published the income tax reduction was going to cause a billion plus dollar deficit.  Both stats are horrificly inaccurate.  Whether you like him or not, he will win in a landslide and the state with have a surplus.  Liberals will continue to do petty and moronic things like publish the Obituary for the State of Kansas and further diminish their already trite and existence in this state.

The poll wasn't conducted by a newspaper. It was done by Public Policy Polling, based out of North Carolina. I believe it. Brownback is really unpopular. He will still win, though, because he's not unpopular enough to lose to a democrat.

You know why you shouldn't? That poll is beyond stale and has been conducted who knows how many times since, yet the same brownback heaters keep citing it.

I think February 26, 2013 is pretty fresh, given that this is not an election year.

http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/capitol-report/2013/feb/26/poll-shows-low-approval-rate-for-brownba/ (http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/capitol-report/2013/feb/26/poll-shows-low-approval-rate-for-brownba/)
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 15, 2013, 11:11:17 PM
The same paper that did the poll that said SB approval rating was 37% is the same that published the income tax reduction was going to cause a billion plus dollar deficit.  Both stats are horrificly inaccurate.  Whether you like him or not, he will win in a landslide and the state with have a surplus.  Liberals will continue to do petty and moronic things like publish the Obituary for the State of Kansas and further diminish their already trite and existence in this state.

The poll wasn't conducted by a newspaper. It was done by Public Policy Polling, based out of North Carolina. I believe it. Brownback is really unpopular. He will still win, though, because he's not unpopular enough to lose to a democrat.

You know why you shouldn't? That poll is beyond stale and has been conducted who knows how many times since, yet the same brownback heaters keep citing it.

I think February 26, 2013 is pretty fresh, given that this is not an election year.

http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/capitol-report/2013/feb/26/poll-shows-low-approval-rate-for-brownba/ (http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/capitol-report/2013/feb/26/poll-shows-low-approval-rate-for-brownba/)

The LJW is the paper I was talking about (and its a rough ridin' joke) and they've run that poll in about a million articles.  If you think that 2 months old is fresh or that the poll is anything but an outlier you're either Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or have never been to Kansas.


For God sakes, it says more people oppose lower income taxes than approve of it.

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 15, 2013, 11:13:39 PM

The LJW is the paper I was talking about (and its a rough ridin' joke) and they've run that poll in about a million articles.  If you think that 2 months old is fresh or that the poll is anything but an outlier you're either Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or have never been to Kansas.


For God sakes, it says more people oppose lower income taxes than approve of it.

It actually says that more people oppose zero income taxes than approve of it.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 16, 2013, 12:25:35 AM

The LJW is the paper I was talking about (and its a rough ridin' joke) and they've run that poll in about a million articles.  If you think that 2 months old is fresh or that the poll is anything but an outlier you're either Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or have never been to Kansas.


For God sakes, it says more people oppose lower income taxes than approve of it.

It actually says that more people oppose zero income taxes than approve of it.

It says 48% oppose no state income tax, which I imagine pretty closely reflects the percentage of people that receive a check as opposed to write a check come April 15th each year.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: ednksu on April 16, 2013, 12:30:03 AM
The same paper that did the poll that said SB approval rating was 37% is the same that published the income tax reduction was going to cause a billion plus dollar deficit.  Both stats are horrificly inaccurate.  Whether you like him or not, he will win in a landslide and the state with have a surplus.  Liberals will continue to do petty and moronic things like publish the Obituary for the State of Kansas and further diminish their already trite and existence in this state.
bwwahhhahahahahahaah

Yeah it is possible he could end in a surplus.  When you slash and burn vital government services its pretty easy to get a positive cash flow.  I just want to thank you rough ridin' idiots for attempting to turn Kansas into Somalia.  I mean who needs a functioning government that doesn't violate the laws and constitution of the state at every turn, rough ridin' pussies thats who.   
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 16, 2013, 08:36:45 AM

The LJW is the paper I was talking about (and its a rough ridin' joke) and they've run that poll in about a million articles.  If you think that 2 months old is fresh or that the poll is anything but an outlier you're either Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or have never been to Kansas.


For God sakes, it says more people oppose lower income taxes than approve of it.

It actually says that more people oppose zero income taxes than approve of it.

It says 48% oppose no state income tax, which I imagine pretty closely reflects the percentage of people that receive a check as opposed to write a check come April 15th each year.

I think that number is probably closer to 90% than 48%. Most people overpay and get refunds.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 16, 2013, 10:03:33 AM
The same paper that did the poll that said SB approval rating was 37% is the same that published the income tax reduction was going to cause a billion plus dollar deficit.  Both stats are horrificly inaccurate.  Whether you like him or not, he will win in a landslide and the state with have a surplus.  Liberals will continue to do petty and moronic things like publish the Obituary for the State of Kansas and further diminish their already trite and existence in this state.
bwwahhhahahahahahaah

Yeah it is possible he could end in a surplus.  When you slash and burn vital government services its pretty easy to get a positive cash flow.  I just want to thank you rough ridin' idiots for attempting to turn Kansas into Somalia.  I mean who needs a functioning government that doesn't violate the laws and constitution of the state at every turn, rough ridin' pussies thats who.

Just when we've began to recover from the sequester carnage, Kansas comes in and guts vital government services.  We're all going to starve again.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Brock Landers on April 16, 2013, 04:30:07 PM
Brownback decides to come back out for an encore:

http://www.wibw.com/home/localnews/headlines/Gov-signs-Kansas-drug-test-law-for-aid-recipients-203225731.html#disqus_thread (http://www.wibw.com/home/localnews/headlines/Gov-signs-Kansas-drug-test-law-for-aid-recipients-203225731.html#disqus_thread)

A new law signed by Gov. Sam Brownback requires a Kansas welfare agency to test residents seeking cash assistance if there is a reasonable suspicion they are using drugs.

Hmmm, wonder what that reasonable suspicion might be??
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: EMAWmeister on April 16, 2013, 04:52:01 PM
Brownback decides to come back out for an encore:

http://www.wibw.com/home/localnews/headlines/Gov-signs-Kansas-drug-test-law-for-aid-recipients-203225731.html#disqus_thread (http://www.wibw.com/home/localnews/headlines/Gov-signs-Kansas-drug-test-law-for-aid-recipients-203225731.html#disqus_thread)

A new law signed by Gov. Sam Brownback requires a Kansas welfare agency to test residents seeking cash assistance if there is a reasonable suspicion they are using drugs.

Hmmm, wonder what that reasonable suspicion might be??

Not to get all tea-party tard here, but this is one of the things that causes an outrage that I truly don't get. I don't understand why drug testing for welfare recipients is so outlandishly offensive and unconstitutional. I understand that most people posting the "I have to take a drug test so that I can pay for YOUR living" bullshit all over facebook think that anyone on welfare is black and addicted to the crackpipe, but it seems like a reasonable thing to require that someone getting welfare payments is clean, or at least getting help.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 16, 2013, 04:56:52 PM
My only concern is that "reasonable suspicion" is not defined.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: EMAWmeister on April 16, 2013, 04:57:51 PM
My only concern is that "reasonable suspicion" is not defined.

Yeah, if they keep it vague like that then I agree that it's bullshit.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Shacks on April 16, 2013, 05:10:17 PM
My only concern is that "reasonable suspicion" is not defined.

Yeah, if they keep it vague like that then I agree that it's bullshit.

Another concern is that when this was tried in Florida the vast majority were clean and the state ended up losing more money from the drug tests than they saved by outing junkies.  According to this article, only 108 of the 4,086 who were tested failed.  That's 2.6%.  Florida lost nearly $46K on the deal.  It's a non-issue that causes people to get hot under the collar and share stupid crap on Facebook.

http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/20130326-editorial-no-drug-tests-for-welfare-texas-should-heed-floridas-lesson.ece
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: EMAWmeister on April 16, 2013, 05:32:12 PM
My only concern is that "reasonable suspicion" is not defined.

Yeah, if they keep it vague like that then I agree that it's bullshit.

Another concern is that when this was tried in Florida the vast majority were clean and the state ended up losing more money from the drug tests than they saved by outing junkies.  According to this article, only 108 of the 4,086 who were tested failed.  That's 2.6%.  Florida lost nearly $46K on the deal.  It's a non-issue that causes people to get hot under the collar and share stupid crap on Facebook.

http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/20130326-editorial-no-drug-tests-for-welfare-texas-should-heed-floridas-lesson.ece

That's fair.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 16, 2013, 10:13:59 PM
My only concern is that "reasonable suspicion" is not defined.

Yeah, if they keep it vague like that then I agree that it's bullshit.

Another concern is that when this was tried in Florida the vast majority were clean and the state ended up losing more money from the drug tests than they saved by outing junkies.  According to this article, only 108 of the 4,086 who were tested failed.  That's 2.6%.  Florida lost nearly $46K on the deal.  It's a non-issue that causes people to get hot under the collar and share stupid crap on Facebook.

http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/20130326-editorial-no-drug-tests-for-welfare-texas-should-heed-floridas-lesson.ece

This law would actually put offenders into programs to get help while they continue to get their welfare money. They would only lose their money on the second failed drug test. It's really a surprisingly progressive program, considering it's Kansas, but I don't understand how we are going to fund it while continuing to cut tax revenue. It's going to be pretty expensive, despite profiling welfare applicants to minimize negative results.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Headinjun on April 16, 2013, 10:28:48 PM
My only concern is that "reasonable suspicion" is not defined.

Yeah, if they keep it vague like that then I agree that it's bullshit.

Another concern is that when this was tried in Florida the vast majority were clean and the state ended up losing more money from the drug tests than they saved by outing junkies.  According to this article, only 108 of the 4,086 who were tested failed.  That's 2.6%.  Florida lost nearly $46K on the deal.  It's a non-issue that causes people to get hot under the collar and share stupid crap on Facebook.

http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/20130326-editorial-no-drug-tests-for-welfare-texas-should-heed-floridas-lesson.ece

This law would actually put offenders into programs to get help while they continue to get their welfare money. They would only lose their money on the second failed drug test. It's really a surprisingly progressive program, considering it's Kansas, but I don't understand how we are going to fund it while continuing to cut tax revenue. It's going to be pretty expensive, despite profiling welfare applicants to minimize negative results.


I'm all for it but would like to see it extended to contractors and subsidy recipients.

If the CEO of Kancare is hitting the pipe and scraping millions off the top of his contract for himself then I want him in rehab or his contract revoked. 

Fair is fair.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 18, 2013, 01:48:36 PM
My only concern is that "reasonable suspicion" is not defined.

Yeah, if they keep it vague like that then I agree that it's bullshit.

Another concern is that when this was tried in Florida the vast majority were clean and the state ended up losing more money from the drug tests than they saved by outing junkies.  According to this article, only 108 of the 4,086 who were tested failed.  That's 2.6%.  Florida lost nearly $46K on the deal.  It's a non-issue that causes people to get hot under the collar and share stupid crap on Facebook.

http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/20130326-editorial-no-drug-tests-for-welfare-texas-should-heed-floridas-lesson.ece

How many got clean so they could get their welfare checks?  More than one person I bet.  Would also rather have that $46k going to testing facilities who employ tax paying Americans than to foreign drug lords.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: camKSU on April 18, 2013, 02:18:03 PM
In other news...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/jim-gile-kansas_n_3045720.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/jim-gile-kansas_n_3045720.html)
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2013, 02:24:17 PM
In other news...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/jim-gile-kansas_n_3045720.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/jim-gile-kansas_n_3045720.html)

I wonder how many flaming bigots don't believe they are bigots. I bet it's a huge percentage.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: OK_Cat on April 18, 2013, 02:30:13 PM
still my favorite part

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"I am not a prejudiced person," Gile told the Salina Journal. "I have built Habitat homes for colored people."
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Unruly on April 18, 2013, 02:38:01 PM
still my favorite part

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"I am not a prejudiced person," Gile told the Salina Journal. "I have built Habitat homes for colored people."


My favorite part was when he was like "Oh no sorry I mean to say Afro-Americanized" like that was way better than n-rigging.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 18, 2013, 02:40:59 PM
I bet this is more awkward for his black friend who he considers his sister than it is anybody else.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: camKSU on April 18, 2013, 02:46:53 PM
In other news...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/jim-gile-kansas_n_3045720.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/jim-gile-kansas_n_3045720.html)

I wonder how many flaming bigots don't believe they are bigots. I bet it's a huge percentage.

As a recovering bigot myself, I will say that it is probably most of the population in one way or another...
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Domino on April 18, 2013, 06:16:03 PM
In other news...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/jim-gile-kansas_n_3045720.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/jim-gile-kansas_n_3045720.html)

I wonder how many flaming bigots don't believe they are bigots. I bet it's a huge percentage.

It's a huge percentage -
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The Boston police officer who sent a mass e-mail in which he compared Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. to a "banana-eating jungle monkey" has apologized, saying he's not a racist. ...

 "I would like to take this opportunity to offer fellow police officers, soldiers and citizens my sincerest apology over the controversial e-mail I authored," Barrett said on CNN. "I am not a racist. I did not intend any racial bigotry, harm or prejudice in my words. I sincerely apologize that these words have been received as such. I truly apologize to all."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/30/gates.police.apology/

"Guys, I just compared a distinguished professor at Harvard to a gorilla because they were both black. But I'm not racist!"
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MeatSauce on April 21, 2013, 08:25:32 PM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/21/aclu-to-kansas-school-district-cancel-creationist-assemblies-about-dinosaurs/


here's Dr. Sharp lecturing about the relationship between dinosaurs and the body of christ, as well as the hostile beliefs that the social liberals are forcing upon the sons/daughters of christ.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmpl2ziGQwU
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Panjandrum on April 21, 2013, 08:54:51 PM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/21/aclu-to-kansas-school-district-cancel-creationist-assemblies-about-dinosaurs/


here's Dr. Sharp lecturing about the relationship between dinosaurs and the body of christ, as well as the hostile beliefs that the social liberals are forcing upon the sons/daughters of christ.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmpl2ziGQwU

My father always said that life would be boring without idiots.

I cling to that.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Institutional Control on April 22, 2013, 08:46:09 AM
Noah was so smart to baby dinosaurs on the arc instead of full grown ones.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 22, 2013, 08:49:15 AM
Well, I think we can expect the state to pass a law next year mandating creationism being taught in all Kansas schools.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: EMAWesome on April 23, 2013, 04:00:44 PM
I can see how the pass through model of business can be an incentive to some, but I don't think they should pay nothing.. At least give them .5% or something. They should contribute like the rest of us.

The money will either go back into the business to expand or be taxed as income by someone.

Kind of like how every dollar paid out in the form of unemployment or welfare goes back into the economy immediately to be taxed on purchases/income tax...

Except SOME of this money will find its way into off shore tax shelters, since it is clearly not as essential to survival as the two examples I stated above.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 23, 2013, 04:43:36 PM
I can see how the pass through model of business can be an incentive to some, but I don't think they should pay nothing.. At least give them .5% or something. They should contribute like the rest of us.

The money will either go back into the business to expand or be taxed as income by someone.

Kind of like how every dollar paid out in the form of unemployment or welfare goes back into the economy immediately to be taxed on purchases/income tax...

Except SOME of this money will find its way into off shore tax shelters, since it is clearly not as essential to survival as the two examples I stated above.

Pulling more money out of the economy in the form of taxes from small business owners will not stimulate the economy. It's been proven over and over.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: p1k3 on April 23, 2013, 06:09:23 PM
much of that money ends up as bombs and foreign aid and other crap that doesn't help Americans, either.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Shacks on April 23, 2013, 08:56:58 PM
I can see how the pass through model of business can be an incentive to some, but I don't think they should pay nothing.. At least give them .5% or something. They should contribute like the rest of us.

The money will either go back into the business to expand or be taxed as income by someone.

Kind of like how every dollar paid out in the form of unemployment or welfare goes back into the economy immediately to be taxed on purchases/income tax...

Except SOME of this money will find its way into off shore tax shelters, since it is clearly not as essential to survival as the two examples I stated above.

Nonsense, everyone knows that every dollar of welfare is spent on black market drugs and funneled to Mexican cartels
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 23, 2013, 09:46:28 PM
The tobacco industry would be mumped without welfare. So would the frozen food industry.


Is this the thread where some occutard said that lower marginal tax rates increased the use of offshore tax shelters?  Just think about how stupid that notion is.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Headinjun on April 23, 2013, 10:21:38 PM
I can see how the pass through model of business can be an incentive to some, but I don't think they should pay nothing.. At least give them .5% or something. They should contribute like the rest of us.

The money will either go back into the business to expand or be taxed as income by someone.

Kind of like how every dollar paid out in the form of unemployment or welfare goes back into the economy immediately to be taxed on purchases/income tax...

Except SOME of this money will find its way into off shore tax shelters, since it is clearly not as essential to survival as the two examples I stated above.

Pulling more money out of the economy in the form of taxes from small business owners will not stimulate the economy. It's been proven over and over.

Some tax between 0-1% is not going to hurt it either. 

I'm all for low taxes but businesses large and small should chip in a few bucks for the pavement and utilities that help support it.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 24, 2013, 10:27:52 AM
lower corporate tax, higher personal tax /thread
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: CNS on April 24, 2013, 10:51:14 AM
Every time I scan over the thread title, my brain sees Another Round of Applesauce for Kansas.

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Jabeez on April 25, 2013, 05:57:07 PM
lower corporate tax, higher personal tax /thread

Pretty much correct, shifting of taxes between income/sales & use/property tax is a dumb game.  The main idea is to increase your tax base or keep budgets low. Kansas has pretty liberal exemptions for corporations/businesses when it comes to taxes, hence the whole Kansas is open for business thing.   I'm not sure how effective Kansas policies are in bringing in business from other states and if it has actually increased the tax base.  I imagine Manhattan is going to be reaping windfalls from Brownback policies, which is cool. But I never see anything remotely intelligent when talking about brownback or what he is doing. I don't know, I don't live in Kansas,  Perhaps someone could send me some links on things he does that are good/bad?

TIA

 Jabeez
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on April 25, 2013, 05:59:22 PM
Every time I scan over the thread title, my brain sees Another Round of Applesauce for Kansas.

 :D
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: 'taterblast on June 07, 2013, 09:36:00 AM
like, what the eff is going on?

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/06/06/4277392/kansas-higher-education-officials.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2013/06/06/4277392/kansas-higher-education-officials.html)
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 07, 2013, 09:38:48 AM
like, what the eff is going on?

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/06/06/4277392/kansas-higher-education-officials.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2013/06/06/4277392/kansas-higher-education-officials.html)

for the state economy to grow, we must de-fund higher education. what is so hard to understand?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: 'taterblast on June 07, 2013, 09:40:17 AM
like, what the eff is going on?

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/06/06/4277392/kansas-higher-education-officials.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2013/06/06/4277392/kansas-higher-education-officials.html)

for the state economy to grow, we must de-fund higher education. what is so hard to understand?

the de-funding higher education part
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: p1k3 on June 07, 2013, 10:18:50 AM
budget cuts boo hoo
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 07, 2013, 10:26:44 AM
My favorite part was:

Quote
"Both K-State and KU students are paying more to fund higher education than the state of Kansas, which is not fair," said Regent Dan Lykins of Topeka.

Are you seriously telling me that college students have to pay for a bigger share of their education than the taxpayers at large? Are you rough ridin' kidding me?! What kind of society are we living in? :runaway:

I also liked:

Quote
"It's never good public policy to cut higher education," Logan said.

Did you here that GOP? NEVER.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on June 07, 2013, 10:27:54 AM
My favorite part was:

Quote
"Both K-State and KU students are paying more to fund higher education than the state of Kansas, which is not fair," said Regent Dan Lykins of Topeka.

Are you seriously telling me that college students have to pay for a bigger share of their education than the taxpayers at large? Are you rough ridin' kidding me?! What kind of society are we living in? :runaway:

I also liked:

Quote
"It's never good public policy to cut higher education," Logan said.

Did you here that GOP? NEVER.

heh
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on June 07, 2013, 10:44:27 AM
AAU membership and 2025 top 50 talk should continue to be laughed at.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 07, 2013, 10:49:09 AM
My favorite part was:

Quote
"Both K-State and KU students are paying more to fund higher education than the state of Kansas, which is not fair," said Regent Dan Lykins of Topeka.

Are you seriously telling me that college students have to pay for a bigger share of their education than the taxpayers at large? Are you rough ridin' kidding me?! What kind of society are we living in? :runaway:

I also liked:

Quote
"It's never good public policy to cut higher education," Logan said.

Did you here that GOP? NEVER.

Yeah, I mean how is it good for the taxpaying base at large to support people getting college educations? :lol:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 07, 2013, 11:08:02 AM
If we got rid of worthless degrees then people could get an education that they can actually do something with, get a good job, pay taxes, and fund more worthwhile degrees.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 07, 2013, 11:11:59 AM
AAU membership and 2025 top 50 talk should continue to be laughed at.

yeah, expect the animal to resign soon after we start to see the effects of these cuts. the state of kansas does not deserve him.

wish brownback wasnt such a god damn boner.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sys on June 07, 2013, 11:13:38 AM
Quote
"It's never good public policy to cut higher education," Logan said.

Did you here that GOP? NEVER.

heh

heh.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 07, 2013, 11:14:51 AM
My favorite part was:

Quote
"Both K-State and KU students are paying more to fund higher education than the state of Kansas, which is not fair," said Regent Dan Lykins of Topeka.

Are you seriously telling me that college students have to pay for a bigger share of their education than the taxpayers at large? Are you rough ridin' kidding me?! What kind of society are we living in? :runaway:

I also liked:

Quote
"It's never good public policy to cut higher education," Logan said.

Did you here that GOP? NEVER.

Yeah, I mean how is it good for the taxpaying base at large to support people getting college educations? :lol:

Yes, totally agree. If taxpayers would foot more of the bill, we could send way more kids to college. That's the problem with this economy, not enough college graduates. Especially not enough liberal arts degrees.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on June 07, 2013, 11:20:46 AM
My favorite part was:

Quote
"Both K-State and KU students are paying more to fund higher education than the state of Kansas, which is not fair," said Regent Dan Lykins of Topeka.

Are you seriously telling me that college students have to pay for a bigger share of their education than the taxpayers at large? Are you rough ridin' kidding me?! What kind of society are we living in? :runaway:

I also liked:

Quote
"It's never good public policy to cut higher education," Logan said.

Did you here that GOP? NEVER.

Yeah, I mean how is it good for the taxpaying base at large to support people getting college educations? :lol:

Yes, totally agree. If taxpayers would foot more of the bill, we could send way more kids to college. That's the problem with this economy, not enough college graduates. Especially not enough liberal arts degrees.

People that did not get liberal arts degrees seem extremely butt hurt about people that do.  Not sure why.  Is it their belief that the welfare rolls are filled with liberal arts degrees?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: steve dave on June 07, 2013, 11:22:19 AM
My favorite part was:

Quote
"Both K-State and KU students are paying more to fund higher education than the state of Kansas, which is not fair," said Regent Dan Lykins of Topeka.

Are you seriously telling me that college students have to pay for a bigger share of their education than the taxpayers at large? Are you rough ridin' kidding me?! What kind of society are we living in? :runaway:

I also liked:

Quote
"It's never good public policy to cut higher education," Logan said.

Did you here that GOP? NEVER.

Yeah, I mean how is it good for the taxpaying base at large to support people getting college educations? :lol:

Yes, totally agree. If taxpayers would foot more of the bill, we could send way more kids to college. That's the problem with this economy, not enough college graduates. Especially not enough liberal arts degrees.

People that did not get liberal arts degrees seem extremely butt hurt about people that do.  Not sure why.  Is it their belief that the welfare rolls are filled with liberal arts degrees?

pretty sure in this specific instance it's just the word "liberal"
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on June 07, 2013, 11:31:16 AM
I'm not even sure what they would consider a "liberal arts degree."  Would Econ fall in there?  Poly Sci?  Or just like Medieval History or Poetry?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: CNS on June 07, 2013, 11:36:05 AM
I'm not even sure what they would consider a "liberal arts degree."  Would Econ fall in there?  Poly Sci?  Or just like Medieval History or Poetry?

Do you have a BA or a BS?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 07, 2013, 11:38:32 AM
I want to meet a medieval history major grad.  I'd party with them
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on June 07, 2013, 11:39:43 AM
I'm not even sure what they would consider a "liberal arts degree."  Would Econ fall in there?  Poly Sci?  Or just like Medieval History or Poetry?

Do you have a BA or a BS?

B.S.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sys on June 07, 2013, 11:41:19 AM
I want to meet a medieval history major grad.  I'd party with them

i minored.  buttonwillow awaits.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: 'taterblast on June 07, 2013, 11:52:05 AM
just seems hilarious to me that at the same time kansas is implementing what experts are calling like, the worst tax plan in history, they are also cutting the crap out of higher education.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on June 07, 2013, 11:55:03 AM
just seems hilarious to me that at the same time kansas is implementing what experts are calling like, the worst tax plan in history, they are also cutting the crap out of higher education.

Well it is pretty awesome for me considering the sales tax got raised, the standard deduction gets lowered $1,500, my property taxes are going up, the mortgage interest deducation is getting cut and my taxes are getting cut by like .7% to offset all of that.  Sounds good.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: steve dave on June 07, 2013, 11:59:55 AM
I'm not even sure what they would consider a "liberal arts degree."  Would Econ fall in there?

It's a social science so I think it would be classified as liberal arts. Now that you have freak schools offering Phd's in business the line has been blurred. Freak schools like Nebraska have (or at least had) it in the school of business as well.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: CNS on June 07, 2013, 12:01:59 PM
I'm not even sure what they would consider a "liberal arts degree."  Would Econ fall in there?  Poly Sci?  Or just like Medieval History or Poetry?

Do you have a BA or a BS?

B.S.

That S keeps you safe from being persecuted as a Libtard, but let's be real....KS is coming after Sciencetards as soon as they polish off the libtards, so you may want to plan accordingly.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: jmlynch1 on June 07, 2013, 12:03:31 PM
Another fun hick mouth-breather talking point is how professors only work 6 hours a week because they only teach two classes.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on June 07, 2013, 12:04:43 PM
Another fun hick mouth-breather talking point is how professors only work 6 hours a week because they only teach two classes.

Also they all make 100K and work 9 months.  Pretty interesting if true.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: OregonSmock on June 07, 2013, 12:08:58 PM
Kansas would have just been better off eliminating the state income tax altogether, and increasing sales taxes on things like booze and cigarettes..  A regressive tax system just squeezes the lower and middle class, and it cuts funding for a lot of basic things like infrastructure and education. 
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Shacks on June 07, 2013, 12:21:54 PM
My favorite part was:

Quote
"Both K-State and KU students are paying more to fund higher education than the state of Kansas, which is not fair," said Regent Dan Lykins of Topeka.

Are you seriously telling me that college students have to pay for a bigger share of their education than the taxpayers at large? Are you rough ridin' kidding me?! What kind of society are we living in? :runaway:

I also liked:

Quote
"It's never good public policy to cut higher education," Logan said.

Did you here that GOP? NEVER.

Guess this is a fun thing to complain about if you were fortunate enough to attend and graduate from college when public schools received more government funding
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: 06wildcat on June 07, 2013, 12:58:02 PM
My favorite part was:

Quote
"Both K-State and KU students are paying more to fund higher education than the state of Kansas, which is not fair," said Regent Dan Lykins of Topeka.

Are you seriously telling me that college students have to pay for a bigger share of their education than the taxpayers at large? Are you rough ridin' kidding me?! What kind of society are we living in? :runaway:

I also liked:

Quote
"It's never good public policy to cut higher education," Logan said.

Did you here that GOP? NEVER.

Guess this is a fun thing to complain about if you were fortunate enough to attend and graduate from college when public schools received more government funding

Yet the "eff you, I got mine" platform is enough to get about 65 percent of the votes in Kansas.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 07, 2013, 01:18:26 PM
:bawl: It's not fair!
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Paul Moscow on June 07, 2013, 01:23:45 PM
At my first job at a publishing house there was a executive VP who made $450K per year. His major in college was Calligraphy.

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: CNS on June 07, 2013, 01:25:10 PM
Kansas would have just been better off eliminating the state income tax altogether, and increasing sales taxes on things like booze and cigarettes..  A regressive tax system just squeezes the lower and middle class, and it cuts funding for a lot of basic things like infrastructure and education.

Sales taxes only would really squeeze the middle and lower class and anyone else that spends most or all of their income already. 
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 07, 2013, 01:30:33 PM
At my first job at a publishing house there was a executive VP who made $450K per year. His major in college was Calligraphy.

That actually makes sense.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Shacks on June 07, 2013, 01:34:50 PM
:bawl: It's not fair!

"I didn't have a problem with taxpayers subsidizing my tuition but I've already graduated so eff everyone who didn't go to college when I did"
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: OregonSmock on June 07, 2013, 01:43:36 PM
Kansas would have just been better off eliminating the state income tax altogether, and increasing sales taxes on things like booze and cigarettes..  A regressive tax system just squeezes the lower and middle class, and it cuts funding for a lot of basic things like infrastructure and education.

Sales taxes only would really squeeze the middle and lower class and anyone else that spends most or all of their income already.


Yeah, I'm not talking about the state sales tax (which I'm pretty sure Kansas increased).  I'm talking about implementing a double externality tax which creates a disincentive for something harmful (in this case smoking/drinking) and also creates a long-term benefit for society (less smokers/alcoholics/DUI's/etc).  We already have federal taxes on things like cigarettes, but states can impose them as well.  I've always said that if Kansas really wanted to attract business and become a truly conservative state, it should just get rid of the state income tax altogether.  Washington state is a good example... they don't have a state income tax, but they tax the crap out of things like alcohol and tobacco (and they'll be taxing marijuana pretty soon too). 
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 07, 2013, 01:58:14 PM
just seems hilarious to me that at the same time kansas is implementing what experts are calling like, the worst tax plan in history, they are also cutting the crap out of higher education.

Well it is pretty awesome for me considering the sales tax got raised, the standard deduction gets lowered $1,500, my property taxes are going up, the mortgage interest deducation is getting cut and my taxes are getting cut by like .7% to offset all of that.  Sounds good.

idk if you would ever use a child care(daycare) provider deduction but that got nixed too.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on June 07, 2013, 02:12:10 PM
just seems hilarious to me that at the same time kansas is implementing what experts are calling like, the worst tax plan in history, they are also cutting the crap out of higher education.

Well it is pretty awesome for me considering the sales tax got raised, the standard deduction gets lowered $1,500, my property taxes are going up, the mortgage interest deducation is getting cut and my taxes are getting cut by like .7% to offset all of that.  Sounds good.

idk if you would ever use a child care(daycare) provider deduction but that got nixed too.

Yeah that didn't hurt as much as it could've because we couldn't claim all of our hours, but that sucks too.  Some pro-family agenda.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on June 07, 2013, 02:13:09 PM
Are liberal arts the ones that make you work with jews?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Brock Landers on June 07, 2013, 02:19:28 PM
I want to meet a medieval history major grad.  I'd party with them


They would probably binge on mead and then force you to go LARPing.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 07, 2013, 02:33:26 PM
:bawl: It's not fair!

"I didn't have a problem with taxpayers subsidizing my tuition but I've already graduated so eff everyone who didn't go to college when I did"

I also went to school when the higher education tuition bubble was less inflated than it is today, and back when most graduates could still land a decent job. :grin:

But seriously, you ought to tell the BoR that instead of passing on the cost to you, maybe the university ought to shut down some of its (http://www.k-state.edu/polsci/) more (http://www.k-state.edu/ameth/) worthless (http://www.k-state.edu/womst/) departments (http://www.k-state.edu/leadership/).
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 07, 2013, 02:33:59 PM
My favorite part was:

Quote
"Both K-State and KU students are paying more to fund higher education than the state of Kansas, which is not fair," said Regent Dan Lykins of Topeka.

Are you seriously telling me that college students have to pay for a bigger share of their education than the taxpayers at large? Are you rough ridin' kidding me?! What kind of society are we living in? :runaway:

I also liked:

Quote
"It's never good public policy to cut higher education," Logan said.

Did you here that GOP? NEVER.

Guess this is a fun thing to complain about if you were fortunate enough to attend and graduate from college when public schools received more government funding

Yet the "eff you, I got mine" platform is enough to get about 65 percent of the votes in Kansas.

But this is the elitist liberal platform on taxes.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on June 07, 2013, 02:39:40 PM
My favorite part was:

Quote
"Both K-State and KU students are paying more to fund higher education than the state of Kansas, which is not fair," said Regent Dan Lykins of Topeka.

Are you seriously telling me that college students have to pay for a bigger share of their education than the taxpayers at large? Are you rough ridin' kidding me?! What kind of society are we living in? :runaway:

I also liked:

Quote
"It's never good public policy to cut higher education," Logan said.

Did you here that GOP? NEVER.

Guess this is a fun thing to complain about if you were fortunate enough to attend and graduate from college when public schools received more government funding

Yet the "eff you, I got mine" platform is enough to get about 65 percent of the votes in Kansas.

But this is the elitist liberal platform on taxes.

the slow decent of JD to ge.c neocon retardedness is very sad.   :cry:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 07, 2013, 03:11:52 PM
My favorite part was:

Quote
"Both K-State and KU students are paying more to fund higher education than the state of Kansas, which is not fair," said Regent Dan Lykins of Topeka.

Are you seriously telling me that college students have to pay for a bigger share of their education than the taxpayers at large? Are you rough ridin' kidding me?! What kind of society are we living in? :runaway:

I also liked:

Quote
"It's never good public policy to cut higher education," Logan said.

Did you here that GOP? NEVER.

Guess this is a fun thing to complain about if you were fortunate enough to attend and graduate from college when public schools received more government funding

Yet the "eff you, I got mine" platform is enough to get about 65 percent of the votes in Kansas.

But this is the elitist liberal platform on taxes.

the slow decent of JD to ge.c neocon retardedness is very sad.   :cry:

I'm probably the most moderate poster on ge.c.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on June 07, 2013, 03:27:18 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 07, 2013, 03:37:22 PM
there is a poster on this board who works for sam brownback and refuses to do anything drastic  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on June 07, 2013, 03:39:33 PM
there is a poster on this board who works for sam brownback and refuses to do anything drastic  :sdeek:

 :shakesfist:
Title: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on June 07, 2013, 03:41:49 PM
:bawl: It's not fair!

"I didn't have a problem with taxpayers subsidizing my tuition but I've already graduated so eff everyone who didn't go to college when I did"

I also went to school when the higher education tuition bubble was less inflated than it is today, and back when most graduates could still land a decent job. :grin:

But seriously, you ought to tell the BoR that instead of passing on the cost to you, maybe the university ought to shut down some of its (http://www.k-state.edu/polsci/) more (http://www.k-state.edu/ameth/) worthless (http://www.k-state.edu/womst/) departments (http://www.k-state.edu/leadership/).

LoL.  Is this more liberal arts butthurt or so you have a reason?  We could start by noting the building was built with private donations.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: CNS on June 07, 2013, 03:48:32 PM
there is a poster on this board who works for sam brownback and refuses to do anything drastic  :sdeek:

Sat near a guy at a tbones game recently that works in the state cap.  He told me that Brownback has two ppl on his staff who's jobs are to chase all social media criticism of brownback down and punish the those responsible. He was paranoid and has changed all his stuff online to be as anonymous as possible.  Didn't seem high at all either.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 07, 2013, 04:11:14 PM
there is a poster on this board who works for sam brownback and refuses to do anything drastic  :sdeek:

Sat near a guy at a tbones game recently that works in the state cap.  He told me that Brownback has two ppl on his staff who's jobs are to chase all social media criticism of brownback down and punish the those responsible. He was paranoid and has changed all his stuff online to be as anonymous as possible.  Didn't seem high at all either.   :dunno:

If he were president he could just use the IRS.  Ba-dink-ching!
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: CNS on June 07, 2013, 04:29:19 PM
there is a poster on this board who works for sam brownback and refuses to do anything drastic  :sdeek:

Sat near a guy at a tbones game recently that works in the state cap.  He told me that Brownback has two ppl on his staff who's jobs are to chase all social media criticism of brownback down and punish the those responsible. He was paranoid and has changed all his stuff online to be as anonymous as possible.  Didn't seem high at all either.   :dunno:

If he were president he could just use the IRS.  Ba-dink-ching!

Please, the IRS probs wouldn't exist anymore.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 07, 2013, 04:39:04 PM
there is a poster on this board who works for sam brownback and refuses to do anything drastic  :sdeek:

Sat near a guy at a tbones game recently that works in the state cap.  He told me that Brownback has two ppl on his staff who's jobs are to chase all social media criticism of brownback down and punish the those responsible. He was paranoid and has changed all his stuff online to be as anonymous as possible.  Didn't seem high at all either.   :dunno:

If he were president he could just use the IRS.  Ba-dink-ching!

Please, the IRS probs wouldn't exist anymore.

 :dance:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 07, 2013, 04:55:30 PM
I want to meet a medieval history major grad.  I'd party with them

i minored.  buttonwillow awaits.

Bakersfield airport Blimpies pak?! 
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 07, 2013, 05:03:12 PM
Didn't Wefald have a degree in something like Feudal Japanese History?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 07, 2013, 05:04:02 PM
there is a poster on this board who works for sam brownback and refuses to do anything drastic  :sdeek:

Sat near a guy at a tbones game recently that works in the state cap.  He told me that Brownback has two ppl on his staff who's jobs are to chase all social media criticism of brownback down and punish the those responsible. He was paranoid and has changed all his stuff online to be as anonymous as possible.  Didn't seem high at all either.   :dunno:

Who could forget about this one?

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/28/opinion/obeidallah-brownback-tweet-apology (http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/28/opinion/obeidallah-brownback-tweet-apology)
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on June 07, 2013, 05:46:19 PM
Didn't Wefald have a degree in something like Feudal Japanese History?
When I toured K-State as a hs senior i met with Weefer and he made me read his ~30ish page paper over Custer's Last Stand.

I was a history major fwiw.  Probably would have been better served with a hard science degree, but majoring in history (and posting on gE) helped me get used to writing, which has served me well so far.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 07, 2013, 05:49:25 PM
there is a poster on this board who works for sam brownback and refuses to do anything drastic  :sdeek:

Sat near a guy at a tbones game recently that works in the state cap.  He told me that Brownback has two ppl on his staff who's jobs are to chase all social media criticism of brownback down and punish the those responsible. He was paranoid and has changed all his stuff online to be as anonymous as possible.  Didn't seem high at all either.   :dunno:

Who could forget about this one?

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/28/opinion/obeidallah-brownback-tweet-apology (http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/28/opinion/obeidallah-brownback-tweet-apology)

LOL, it seems so insignificant now with everything that's happening on the national level.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: jmlynch1 on June 07, 2013, 06:30:59 PM
Didn't Wefald have a degree in something like Feudal Japanese History?
krause had an art degree
Title: Re: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on June 07, 2013, 06:36:20 PM
Didn't Wefald have a degree in something like Feudal Japanese History?
When I toured K-State as a hs senior i met with Weefer and he made me read his ~30ish page paper over Custer's Last Stand.

I was a history major fwiw.  Probably would have been better served with a hard science degree, but majoring in history (and posting on gE) helped me get used to writing, which has served me well so far.

I think historians are very valuable to society. Especially you, dlew.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bones129 on June 07, 2013, 06:41:21 PM
Didn't Wefald have a degree in something like Feudal Japanese History?
krause had an art degree

So just what is Krause doing these days?



 
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 07, 2013, 07:26:01 PM
there is a poster on this board who works for sam brownback and refuses to do anything drastic  :sdeek:

Sat near a guy at a tbones game recently that works in the state cap.  He told me that Brownback has two ppl on his staff who's jobs are to chase all social media criticism of brownback down and punish the those responsible. He was paranoid and has changed all his stuff online to be as anonymous as possible.  Didn't seem high at all either.   :dunno:

Who could forget about this one?

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/28/opinion/obeidallah-brownback-tweet-apology (http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/28/opinion/obeidallah-brownback-tweet-apology)

LOL, it seems so insignificant now with everything that's happening on the national level.

It's just incredibly petty. Paying people to troll social media and then go after kids who talk smack on you is a waste of taxpayer money, and it's just ridiculous that Brownback has people who do that while he makes cuts to other more valuable programs.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 07, 2013, 10:47:27 PM
:bawl: It's not fair!

"I didn't have a problem with taxpayers subsidizing my tuition but I've already graduated so eff everyone who didn't go to college when I did"

I also went to school when the higher education tuition bubble was less inflated than it is today, and back when most graduates could still land a decent job. :grin:

But seriously, you ought to tell the BoR that instead of passing on the cost to you, maybe the university ought to shut down some of its (http://www.k-state.edu/polsci/) more (http://www.k-state.edu/ameth/) worthless (http://www.k-state.edu/womst/) departments (http://www.k-state.edu/leadership/).

LoL.  Is this more liberal arts butthurt or so you have a reason?  We could start by noting the building was built with private donations.

What building? I don't know about "butthurt", seems like these are pretty worthless departments that could save some money.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: steve dave on June 07, 2013, 11:15:41 PM
:bawl: It's not fair!

"I didn't have a problem with taxpayers subsidizing my tuition but I've already graduated so eff everyone who didn't go to college when I did"

I also went to school when the higher education tuition bubble was less inflated than it is today, and back when most graduates could still land a decent job. :grin:

But seriously, you ought to tell the BoR that instead of passing on the cost to you, maybe the university ought to shut down some of its (http://www.k-state.edu/polsci/) more (http://www.k-state.edu/ameth/) worthless (http://www.k-state.edu/womst/) departments (http://www.k-state.edu/leadership/).

LoL.  Is this more liberal arts butthurt or so you have a reason?  We could start by noting the building was built with private donations.

What building? I don't know about "butthurt", seems like these are pretty worthless departments that could save some money.

what trade-school major did you get? arch/eng/elec?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 08, 2013, 12:38:22 AM
there is a poster on this board who works for sam brownback and refuses to do anything drastic  :sdeek:

Sat near a guy at a tbones game recently that works in the state cap.  He told me that Brownback has two ppl on his staff who's jobs are to chase all social media criticism of brownback down and punish the those responsible. He was paranoid and has changed all his stuff online to be as anonymous as possible.  Didn't seem high at all either.   :dunno:

Who could forget about this one?

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/28/opinion/obeidallah-brownback-tweet-apology (http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/28/opinion/obeidallah-brownback-tweet-apology)

LOL, it seems so insignificant now with everything that's happening on the national level.

It's just incredibly petty. Paying people to troll social media and then go after kids who talk smack on you is a waste of taxpayer money, and it's just ridiculous that Brownback has people who do that while he makes cuts to other more valuable programs.

Yeah, there's no doubt about that.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on June 08, 2013, 10:11:51 AM
:bawl: It's not fair!

"I didn't have a problem with taxpayers subsidizing my tuition but I've already graduated so eff everyone who didn't go to college when I did"

I also went to school when the higher education tuition bubble was less inflated than it is today, and back when most graduates could still land a decent job. :grin:

But seriously, you ought to tell the BoR that instead of passing on the cost to you, maybe the university ought to shut down some of its (http://www.k-state.edu/polsci/) more (http://www.k-state.edu/ameth/) worthless (http://www.k-state.edu/womst/) departments (http://www.k-state.edu/leadership/).

LoL.  Is this more liberal arts butthurt or so you have a reason?  We could start by noting the building was built with private donations.

What building? I don't know about "butthurt", seems like these are pretty worthless departments that could save some money.

It is the biggest minor on campus, it has its building construction and maintenance completely paid for by outside sources and it only has like 3 tenure track positions.  It is a net revenue generator.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 11, 2013, 10:01:32 AM
Didn't Wefald have a degree in something like Feudal Japanese History?
When I toured K-State as a hs senior i met with Weefer and he made me read his ~30ish page paper over Custer's Last Stand.

I was a history major fwiw.  Probably would have been better served with a hard science degree, but majoring in history (and posting on gE) helped me get used to writing, which has served me well so far.

Where can I read this paper?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on June 11, 2013, 12:23:25 PM
Didn't Wefald have a degree in something like Feudal Japanese History?
When I toured K-State as a hs senior i met with Weefer and he made me read his ~30ish page paper over Custer's Last Stand.

I was a history major fwiw.  Probably would have been better served with a hard science degree, but majoring in history (and posting on gE) helped me get used to writing, which has served me well so far.

Where can I read this paper?

I think I have a copy in my mom's basement (next to my bed).  Will check.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 11, 2013, 01:01:58 PM
:users:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 11, 2013, 02:15:02 PM
Hi Guise,

Kansas has been phasing out its funding of higher education for like 4 decades.  Welcome to the party, cluemasters. 

K-State is losing $6 million out of its $700 million operating budget.  Calm down. 

#thankssam
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on June 11, 2013, 02:27:04 PM
I guess I might as well put this here:

The KBOR asked for plans from all of the administrators from KBOR universities in response to the budget cuts.  Kansas State's was the only one rejected because Shultz was the only administrator who was going to continue to freeze faculty salaries and not budget a 2% bump in '14 like every other school.  The KBOR was signing off on these plans, because K-State and every other school was asking permission for tuition increases. 

As stated previously, the faculty is pretty pissed at Kirk.  I don't think they are vote of no confidence pissed, but between 2025, the growth of administrative staff and salary without faculty retention efforts I think Kirk is hunting for a new landing spot.
Title: Re: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: 8manpick on June 11, 2013, 03:41:53 PM
Kansas would have just been better off eliminating the state income tax altogether, and increasing sales taxes on things like booze and cigarettes..  A regressive tax system just squeezes the lower and middle class, and it cuts funding for a lot of basic things like infrastructure and education.

Sales taxes only would really squeeze the middle and lower class and anyone else that spends most or all of their income already.


Yeah, I'm not talking about the state sales tax (which I'm pretty sure Kansas increased).  I'm talking about implementing a double externality tax which creates a disincentive for something harmful (in this case smoking/drinking) and also creates a long-term benefit for society (less smokers/alcoholics/DUI's/etc).  We already have federal taxes on things like cigarettes, but states can impose them as well.  I've always said that if Kansas really wanted to attract business and become a truly conservative state, it should just get rid of the state income tax altogether.  Washington state is a good example... they don't have a state income tax, but they tax the crap out of things like alcohol and tobacco (and they'll be taxing marijuana pretty soon too).

Freedom hater

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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on June 11, 2013, 05:00:44 PM
Didn't Wefald have a degree in something like Feudal Japanese History?
When I toured K-State as a hs senior i met with Weefer and he made me read his ~30ish page paper over Custer's Last Stand.

I was a history major fwiw.  Probably would have been better served with a hard science degree, but majoring in history (and posting on gE) helped me get used to writing, which has served me well so far.

Where can I read this paper?
Actually it's in my room.

At my mom's house.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on June 11, 2013, 05:29:50 PM
Didn't Wefald have a degree in something like Feudal Japanese History?
When I toured K-State as a hs senior i met with Weefer and he made me read his ~30ish page paper over Custer's Last Stand.

I was a history major fwiw.  Probably would have been better served with a hard science degree, but majoring in history (and posting on gE) helped me get used to writing, which has served me well so far.

Where can I read this paper?
Actually it's in my room.

At my mom's house.

Please bring as auction item. 

T-Y
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on June 11, 2013, 06:44:55 PM
actually i definitely will if i can find it on friday night.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: CNS on June 12, 2013, 09:42:46 AM
Guys, the BOE voted yesterday that evolution should be included in the science curriculum in KS.  Given their past stance, it seems that the gE PI'ing we have been giving the state is starting to work.

'grats, gE.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 12, 2013, 09:51:25 AM
actually i definitely will if i can find it on friday night.

I can't be there on Friday so I'll just enter a big of $10 right here.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 12, 2013, 11:05:10 AM
I guess I might as well put this here:

The KBOR asked for plans from all of the administrators from KBOR universities in response to the budget cuts.  Kansas State's was the only one rejected because Shultz was the only administrator who was going to continue to freeze faculty salaries and not budget a 2% bump in '14 like every other school.  The KBOR was signing off on these plans, because K-State and every other school was asking permission for tuition increases. 

As stated previously, the faculty is pretty pissed at Kirk.  I don't think they are vote of no confidence pissed, but between 2025, the growth of administrative staff and salary without faculty retention efforts I think Kirk is hunting for a new landing spot.

So who is more pissed, the underlings that actually do work, or the 100 plus profs who are making $150K plus a year?

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 12, 2013, 11:17:48 AM
I guess I might as well put this here:

The KBOR asked for plans from all of the administrators from KBOR universities in response to the budget cuts.  Kansas State's was the only one rejected because Shultz was the only administrator who was going to continue to freeze faculty salaries and not budget a 2% bump in '14 like every other school.  The KBOR was signing off on these plans, because K-State and every other school was asking permission for tuition increases. 

As stated previously, the faculty is pretty pissed at Kirk.  I don't think they are vote of no confidence pissed, but between 2025, the growth of administrative staff and salary without faculty retention efforts I think Kirk is hunting for a new landing spot.

So who is more pissed, the underlings that actually do work, or the 100 plus profs who are making $150K plus a year?


Are you implying that university professors don't do real work?  Could you butthurt conservatives just provide a list of all the jobs that are legit, and the ones that are called jobs, but don't really qualify as actual jobs?   TIA.

Where did I say any job wasn't legit?   You are perpetually pissed off about everything all the time.   You are in a perpetual state of butthurt about everything, always.

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on June 12, 2013, 11:18:41 AM
I guess I might as well put this here:

The KBOR asked for plans from all of the administrators from KBOR universities in response to the budget cuts.  Kansas State's was the only one rejected because Shultz was the only administrator who was going to continue to freeze faculty salaries and not budget a 2% bump in '14 like every other school.  The KBOR was signing off on these plans, because K-State and every other school was asking permission for tuition increases. 

As stated previously, the faculty is pretty pissed at Kirk.  I don't think they are vote of no confidence pissed, but between 2025, the growth of administrative staff and salary without faculty retention efforts I think Kirk is hunting for a new landing spot.

So who is more pissed, the underlings that actually do work, or the 100 plus profs who are making $150K plus a year?

I think that question answers itself.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on June 12, 2013, 12:38:18 PM
actually i definitely will if i can find it on friday night.

I can't be there on Friday so I'll just enter a big of $10 right here.
I can't be there on Friday either.  If I can find it Friday (in kc), I'll bring it to Manhattan Saturday.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2013, 06:08:58 PM
Haven't read it all yet, but national attention!

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rogue-state-how-far-right-fanatics-hijacked-kansas-20130612
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: p1k3 on June 12, 2013, 06:27:51 PM
Haven't read it all yet, but national attention!

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rogue-state-how-far-right-fanatics-hijacked-kansas-20130612

That writer is very butt hurt
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2013, 06:35:46 PM
Haven't read it all yet, but national attention!

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rogue-state-how-far-right-fanatics-hijacked-kansas-20130612

That writer is very butt hurt

OK
Title: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 12, 2013, 06:39:23 PM
A society is best served by having an educated citizenry. Why anyone would ever make drastic cuts to public education baffles me. As a whole, who do you think is doing better? The states whose public education systems have consistently ranked in the Top 10 over the last few decades, or the states finishing in the bottom 10? Because if you think there's no difference, just walk around Louisiana for a while.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 12, 2013, 06:42:05 PM
Haven't read it all yet, but national attention!

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rogue-state-how-far-right-fanatics-hijacked-kansas-20130612

The title sounds like it will be a fair and thoughtful article. I can't wait to read it!
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Paul Moscow on June 12, 2013, 07:12:30 PM
Haven't read it all yet, but national attention!

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rogue-state-how-far-right-fanatics-hijacked-kansas-20130612

The title sounds like it will be a fair and thoughtful article. I can't wait to read it!

I don't understand how that can be two ways.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 12, 2013, 07:18:45 PM
Got into it pretty good with some visiting Kansas relatives about what a jackass Brownback is being on higher education (amongst other things).    I just want to make sure it's not the $150K plus tenured prof types who aren't raising a stink about the salaries. 

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on June 12, 2013, 07:20:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oabcM9SOF-E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oabcM9SOF-E)
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2013, 07:21:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oabcM9SOF-E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oabcM9SOF-E)

ha ha
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2013, 07:23:19 PM
but seriously, did you guys read about the AIDS bill they passed? holy crap, you guys!
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on June 12, 2013, 07:23:20 PM
Got into it pretty good with some visiting Kansas relatives about what a jackass Brownback is being on higher education (amongst other things).    I just want to make sure it's not the $150K plus tenured prof types who aren't raising a stink about the salaries.

I think I know your stance here....But it is not the tenured folks raising a stink.

A lot of the issues that many people have with Shulz/Brownback (dirth of new tenure lines, buildings over salary increases, lack of state support, nickel and dime student fees/tuition increases, non-teaching/researching staff/salary bloat) are issues that are present other places they just are worse here.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 12, 2013, 07:41:59 PM
Got into it pretty good with some visiting Kansas relatives about what a jackass Brownback is being on higher education (amongst other things).    I just want to make sure it's not the $150K plus tenured prof types who aren't raising a stink about the salaries.

I think I know your stance here....But it is not the tenured folks raising a stink.

A lot of the issues that many people have with Shulz/Brownback (dirth of new tenure lines, buildings over salary increases, lack of state support, nickel and dime student fees/tuition increases, non-teaching/researching staff/salary bloat) are issues that are present other places they just are worse here.

Well, I don't have a huge problem with UPKS's desire for more and improved buildings.  It's needed, and the state sure as crap ain't gonna live up to their responsibilities on that.   Nobody wants to spend the kind of money that college demands these days and go to classes in dumps.   That said, there's got to be a way to get an increase for faculty and that way is for the state to live up to their fiduciary responsibility.   

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on June 12, 2013, 07:50:31 PM
Got into it pretty good with some visiting Kansas relatives about what a jackass Brownback is being on higher education (amongst other things).    I just want to make sure it's not the $150K plus tenured prof types who aren't raising a stink about the salaries.

I think I know your stance here....But it is not the tenured folks raising a stink.

A lot of the issues that many people have with Shulz/Brownback (dirth of new tenure lines, buildings over salary increases, lack of state support, nickel and dime student fees/tuition increases, non-teaching/researching staff/salary bloat) are issues that are present other places they just are worse here.

Well, I don't have a huge problem with UPKS's desire for more and improved buildings.  It's needed, and the state sure as crap ain't gonna live up to their responsibilities on that.   Nobody wants to spend the kind of money that college demands these days and go to classes in dumps.   That said, there's got to be a way to get an increase for faculty and that way is for the state to live up to their fiduciary responsibility.

I completely agree.  I'm not saying buildings weren't a problem.  Deferred maintenance is a huge problem.  But nationally there is a pattern that more and more post-docs, instructors, visiting profs and adjuncts are getting hired and student fees and tuition are increasingly going to rec expansions etc.  I think the rec and the parking garage are great and were needed improvements.  But with budgets the way they are, I'd prefer keeping the quality of instruction high.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on June 12, 2013, 08:06:27 PM
I'm interested in this dialogue you guys are having.  I wasn't at first, but your guys' earnestness and thoughtfulness roped me in.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 12, 2013, 08:57:53 PM
Haven't read it all yet, but national attention!

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rogue-state-how-far-right-fanatics-hijacked-kansas-20130612

The title sounds like it will be a fair and thoughtful article. I can't wait to read it!

I don't understand how that can be two ways.

I would have said "both ways", but good one PM.    :D
Title: Re: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: 8manpick on June 12, 2013, 09:05:20 PM
Got into it pretty good with some visiting Kansas relatives about what a jackass Brownback is being on higher education (amongst other things).    I just want to make sure it's not the $150K plus tenured prof types who aren't raising a stink about the salaries.

I think I know your stance here....But it is not the tenured folks raising a stink.

A lot of the issues that many people have with Shulz/Brownback (dirth of new tenure lines, buildings over salary increases, lack of state support, nickel and dime student fees/tuition increases, non-teaching/researching staff/salary bloat) are issues that are present other places they just are worse here.

Well, I don't have a huge problem with UPKS's desire for more and improved buildings.  It's needed, and the state sure as crap ain't gonna live up to their responsibilities on that.   Nobody wants to spend the kind of money that college demands these days and go to classes in dumps.   That said, there's got to be a way to get an increase for faculty and that way is for the state to live up to their fiduciary responsibility.

I completely agree.  I'm not saying buildings weren't a problem.  Deferred maintenance is a huge problem.  But nationally there is a pattern that more and more post-docs, instructors, visiting profs and adjuncts are getting hired and student fees and tuition are increasingly going to rec expansions etc.  I think the rec and the parking garage are great and were needed improvements.  But with budgets the way they are, I'd prefer keeping the quality of instruction high.


fyi, the campus infrastructure, especially in terms of HVAC and other mechanical equipment is in really bad shape

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 12, 2013, 09:27:06 PM
but seriously, did you guys read about the AIDS bill they passed? holy crap, you guys!

clearly something that needed revisiting after doctors cured that baby born with AIDS?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Paul Moscow on June 12, 2013, 09:45:47 PM
Haven't read it all yet, but national attention!

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rogue-state-how-far-right-fanatics-hijacked-kansas-20130612

The title sounds like it will be a fair and thoughtful article. I can't wait to read it!

I don't understand how that can be two ways.

I would have said "both ways", but good one PM.    :D

Thanks bud. Glad we can both sit back in California and watch while the GOP torpedos our home state.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Shacks on June 12, 2013, 09:50:16 PM
Haven't read it all yet, but national attention!

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rogue-state-how-far-right-fanatics-hijacked-kansas-20130612

The title sounds like it will be a fair and thoughtful article. I can't wait to read it!

I don't understand how that can be two ways.

I would have said "both ways", but good one PM.    :D

Thanks bud. Glad we can both sit back in California and watch while the GOP torpedos our home state.

California's state government is rough ridin' terrible, and it's really too large and diverse of a state that should be separated into two or three smaller states

Source: I'm from California
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Paul Moscow on June 12, 2013, 09:53:16 PM
Haven't read it all yet, but national attention!

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rogue-state-how-far-right-fanatics-hijacked-kansas-20130612

The title sounds like it will be a fair and thoughtful article. I can't wait to read it!

I don't understand how that can be two ways.

I would have said "both ways", but good one PM.    :D

Thanks bud. Glad we can both sit back in California and watch while the GOP torpedos our home state.

California's state government is rough ridin' terrible, and it's really too large and diverse of a state that should be separated into two or three smaller states

Source: I'm from California

I'm sure Fresno doesn't miss you.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Shacks on June 12, 2013, 09:57:42 PM
Haven't read it all yet, but national attention!

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rogue-state-how-far-right-fanatics-hijacked-kansas-20130612

The title sounds like it will be a fair and thoughtful article. I can't wait to read it!

I don't understand how that can be two ways.

I would have said "both ways", but good one PM.    :D

Thanks bud. Glad we can both sit back in California and watch while the GOP torpedos our home state.

California's state government is rough ridin' terrible, and it's really too large and diverse of a state that should be separated into two or three smaller states

Source: I'm from California

I'm sure Fresno doesn't miss you.

Orange County, bro
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: p1k3 on June 12, 2013, 10:01:01 PM
Haven't read it all yet, but national attention!

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rogue-state-how-far-right-fanatics-hijacked-kansas-20130612

The title sounds like it will be a fair and thoughtful article. I can't wait to read it!

I don't understand how that can be two ways.

I would have said "both ways", but good one PM.    :D

Thanks bud. Glad we can both sit back in California and watch while the GOP torpedos our home state.

California's state government is rough ridin' terrible, and it's really too large and diverse of a state that should be separated into two or three smaller states

Source: I'm from California

I'm sure Fresno doesn't miss you.

Orange County, bro

I lived northwest of Fresno for a while. We don't miss each other, but yea their state gov is a complete train wreck
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Paul Moscow on June 12, 2013, 10:10:33 PM
It'll be interesting actually. Now that CA has effectively voted out almost all the GOP - to the point where they can no longer obstruct - the dems have a super majority, just like Kansas but in the reverse and a little bit later.

Gentlemen's agreement to have this conversation again in 3 years after we've seen more of these policies take hold.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Shacks on June 12, 2013, 10:20:52 PM
It'll be interesting actually. Now that CA has effectively voted out almost all the GOP - to the point where they can no longer obstruct - the dems have a super majority, just like Kansas but in the reverse and a little bit later.

Gentlemen's bet to have this conversation again in 3 years after we've seen more of these policies take hold.

It will be interesting in that both states will have polar opposite leaders, but the problems facing both states are much different.  For example, illegal immigration and insane pensions for public workers aren't major issues for Kansas.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: p1k3 on June 12, 2013, 10:21:19 PM
It'll be interesting actually. Now that CA has effectively voted out almost all the GOP - to the point where they can no longer obstruct - the dems have a super majority, just like Kansas but in the reverse and a little bit later.

Gentlemen's agreement to have this conversation again in 3 years after we've seen more of these policies take hold.

My money is on High Speed Rail sinking them
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2013, 10:29:20 PM
What has California done that is the polar opposite of making it OK to quarantine AIDS patients or banning sustainable development or passing a sales tax because of a terrible income tax plan? I mean this seems roughly a billion times more reasonable and responsible than what Brownback is doing:

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-state-budget-20130611,0,1794724.story

(also check the great quote from the republican!)
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Paul Moscow on June 12, 2013, 10:31:47 PM
It'll be interesting actually. Now that CA has effectively voted out almost all the GOP - to the point where they can no longer obstruct - the dems have a super majority, just like Kansas but in the reverse and a little bit later.

Gentlemen's bet to have this conversation again in 3 years after we've seen more of these policies take hold.

It will be interesting in that both states will have polar opposite leaders, but the problems facing both states are much different.  For example, illegal immigration and insane pensions for public workers aren't major issues for Kansas.

There is no polar opposite of Brownback on the left - at least not one who has consolidated power like him

What he is doing is unprecedented and he's testing it out on Kansans, which is concerning to me. Even if the person was as far left as Brownback is right it would bother me.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on June 12, 2013, 10:32:41 PM
(also check the great quote from the republican!)

 :lol:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 12, 2013, 11:27:36 PM
The ONLY thing keeping CA from going completely broke at this moment is the fact that Gerry Brown is old enough to understand how a budget works. Even though CA's debt is nearly a trillion dollars, the legislature sees a budget surplus and wants to start cranking the welfare machine back to full throttle, and he says no. Once he's gone and the next governor gets in, it's curtains for the golden state. But P1k3 is correct in saying that the high speed rail debacle will be the final nail. Will probably be the first state to file for bankruptcy.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Shacks on June 12, 2013, 11:56:43 PM
It'll be interesting actually. Now that CA has effectively voted out almost all the GOP - to the point where they can no longer obstruct - the dems have a super majority, just like Kansas but in the reverse and a little bit later.

Gentlemen's bet to have this conversation again in 3 years after we've seen more of these policies take hold.

It will be interesting in that both states will have polar opposite leaders, but the problems facing both states are much different.  For example, illegal immigration and insane pensions for public workers aren't major issues for Kansas.

There is no polar opposite of Brownback on the left - at least not one who has consolidated power like him

What he is doing is unprecedented and he's testing it out on Kansans, which is concerning to me. Even if the person was as far left as Brownback is right it would bother me.

Fair enough, but by polar opposite I meant one state is being run by extreme right wingers and the other by extreme left wingers.  I'd agree that Kansas republicans are further right than California democrats  are left though.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on June 12, 2013, 11:58:55 PM
federalism in action
Title: Re: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on June 13, 2013, 12:21:06 AM
Got into it pretty good with some visiting Kansas relatives about what a jackass Brownback is being on higher education (amongst other things).    I just want to make sure it's not the $150K plus tenured prof types who aren't raising a stink about the salaries.

I think I know your stance here....But it is not the tenured folks raising a stink.

A lot of the issues that many people have with Shulz/Brownback (dirth of new tenure lines, buildings over salary increases, lack of state support, nickel and dime student fees/tuition increases, non-teaching/researching staff/salary bloat) are issues that are present other places they just are worse here.

Well, I don't have a huge problem with UPKS's desire for more and improved buildings.  It's needed, and the state sure as crap ain't gonna live up to their responsibilities on that.   Nobody wants to spend the kind of money that college demands these days and go to classes in dumps.   That said, there's got to be a way to get an increase for faculty and that way is for the state to live up to their fiduciary responsibility.

I completely agree.  I'm not saying buildings weren't a problem.  Deferred maintenance is a huge problem.  But nationally there is a pattern that more and more post-docs, instructors, visiting profs and adjuncts are getting hired and student fees and tuition are increasingly going to rec expansions etc.  I think the rec and the parking garage are great and were needed improvements.  But with budgets the way they are, I'd prefer keeping the quality of instruction high.


fyi, the campus infrastructure, especially in terms of HVAC and other mechanical equipment is in really bad shape

That information was already mine.
Title: Another round of applause for Kansas? How about and OVATION
Post by: ben ji on June 14, 2013, 01:22:24 PM
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rogue-state-how-far-right-fanatics-hijacked-kansas-20130612

Some of my favorite's

Quote
Finally, Lawrence Democrat John Wilson stands up to offer his own cheeky amendment. If gun-free zones are so dangerous, he argues sarcastically, why not get rid of the metal detectors and guards at the entrances to this very building, which wind up costing Kansas taxpayers upwards of $200,000 annually, and just allow everyone to carry concealed weapons in the state capitol instead?

Howell says that sounds like a great idea to him. The amendment passes overwhelmingly, as does the bill itself.

Quote
In the current legislative session, the House and Senate voted to rescind a 25-year-old ban on quarantining people with AIDS, and Rep. Steve Brunk of Wichita introduced a bill that would require cities that put fluoride in their water to inform customers that fluoridation lowers the I.Q. of children.

Quote
Of course, for strategists like Rove, loose-talking Republicans like Peck – who casually refers to the president as "Barack Hussein Obama" during our conversation – are precisely the reason swing voters are being spooked by the GOP. Peck remains unmoved. "What bothers me is there are places in America that have gone so far to the left that they'd look at us as nutcases," he says pleasantly. "I consider us in Kansas mainstream America – normal, red-blooded Americans who believe in the Constitution of the United States. Yes, we're conservative, but we're not a bunch of gun-toting cowboys." A few moments later, he slides his chair back, and the wheel makes a loud cracking sound when it hits the plastic floor coaster. "That wasn't gunshots, by the way!" he cackles.

Title: Re: Another round of applause for Kansas? How about and OVATION
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 14, 2013, 01:40:49 PM
Quote
Finally, Lawrence Democrat John Wilson stands up to offer his own cheeky amendment. If gun-free zones are so dangerous, he argues sarcastically, why not get rid of the metal detectors and guards at the entrances to this very building, which wind up costing Kansas taxpayers upwards of $200,000 annually, and just allow everyone to carry concealed weapons in the state capitol instead?

Howell says that sounds like a great idea to him. The amendment passes overwhelmingly, as does the bill itself.

This is fantastic  :lol:
Title: Re: Another round of applause for Kansas? How about and OVATION
Post by: Panjandrum on June 14, 2013, 01:44:38 PM
I have no doubt that the author provided a little narrative assistance in turning these people into caricatures, but really, these people are nuts.
Title: Re: Another round of applause for Kansas? How about and OVATION
Post by: steve dave on June 14, 2013, 01:46:48 PM
Quote
Finally, Lawrence Democrat John Wilson stands up to offer his own cheeky amendment. If gun-free zones are so dangerous, he argues sarcastically, why not get rid of the metal detectors and guards at the entrances to this very building, which wind up costing Kansas taxpayers upwards of $200,000 annually, and just allow everyone to carry concealed weapons in the state capitol instead?

Howell says that sounds like a great idea to him. The amendment passes overwhelmingly, as does the bill itself.

This is fantastic  :lol:

yes, that one made me lol

also we discussed this all earlier in the KS thread
Title: Re: Another round of applause for Kansas? How about and OVATION
Post by: OregonSmock on June 14, 2013, 01:52:14 PM
The only positive for Kansas that I took from that article is that Brownback supports wind energy.   
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Institutional Control on June 18, 2013, 07:58:09 AM
http://youtu.be/MJPHoC_OMJQ
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: puniraptor on June 18, 2013, 08:06:41 AM
also this brand new jam featuring your local landmarks

couldn't find the  Kansas blumpkins youtube music videos thread

 http://youtu.be/9C0JjcWhfOY (http://youtu.be/9C0JjcWhfOY)
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 11, 2014, 01:44:34 PM
Looks like Brownback is still less popular than Obama in Kansas. Is Sam in trouble this November?

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2014/PPP_Release_KS_221.pdf
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: illBisonYourdele on March 11, 2014, 02:06:11 PM
Looks like Brownback is still less popular than Obama in Kansas. Is Sam in trouble this November?

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2014/PPP_Release_KS_221.pdf

Brownback wins the internet polling vs Davis 42-30% but loses the phones 44-40%.  that just doesnt seem right
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 11, 2014, 02:16:48 PM
Looks like Brownback is still less popular than Obama in Kansas. Is Sam in trouble this November?

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2014/PPP_Release_KS_221.pdf

Brownback wins the internet polling vs Davis 42-30% but loses the phones 44-40%.  that just doesnt seem right

Only 20% of the polling was done on the internet, so the sample size probably isn't quite big enough to draw any conclusions from phone vs online. If you look at the approval ratings, the Brownback approval rating from the online voters was lower than it was with the phone voters, but the disapproval rating was also much lower. There were a large percentage of "not sures".
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 11, 2014, 02:19:13 PM
Looks like Brownback is still less popular than Obama in Kansas. Is Sam in trouble this November?

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2014/PPP_Release_KS_221.pdf

Brownback wins the internet polling vs Davis 42-30% but loses the phones 44-40%.  that just doesnt seem right

Smart people don't do phone surveys.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 11, 2014, 02:24:20 PM
Looks like Brownback is still less popular than Obama in Kansas. Is Sam in trouble this November?

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2014/PPP_Release_KS_221.pdf

In honest answer, probably not. This is not a good year for libtards anywhere, let alone Kansas.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: illBisonYourdele on March 11, 2014, 02:46:20 PM
Looks like Brownback is still less popular than Obama in Kansas. Is Sam in trouble this November?

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2014/PPP_Release_KS_221.pdf

Brownback wins the internet polling vs Davis 42-30% but loses the phones 44-40%.  that just doesnt seem right

Smart people don't do phone surveys.

or answer landlines
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: illBisonYourdele on March 11, 2014, 02:48:10 PM
Looks like Brownback is still less popular than Obama in Kansas. Is Sam in trouble this November?

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2014/PPP_Release_KS_221.pdf

Brownback wins the internet polling vs Davis 42-30% but loses the phones 44-40%.  that just doesnt seem right

Only 20% of the polling was done on the internet, so the sample size probably isn't quite big enough to draw any conclusions from phone vs online. If you look at the approval ratings, the Brownback approval rating from the online voters was lower than it was with the phone voters, but the disapproval rating was also much lower. There were a large percentage of "not sures".

just a small sample from the large pool of 693 KS voters surveyed in this poll
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 11, 2014, 02:57:38 PM
Looks like Brownback is still less popular than Obama in Kansas. Is Sam in trouble this November?

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2014/PPP_Release_KS_221.pdf

Brownback wins the internet polling vs Davis 42-30% but loses the phones 44-40%.  that just doesnt seem right

Only 20% of the polling was done on the internet, so the sample size probably isn't quite big enough to draw any conclusions from phone vs online. If you look at the approval ratings, the Brownback approval rating from the online voters was lower than it was with the phone voters, but the disapproval rating was also much lower. There were a large percentage of "not sures".

just a small sample from the large pool of 693 KS voters surveyed in this poll

A pool of 693 voters giving an approval rating of 33% would have a margin of error of +/- 3.5% in achieving a 95% confidence interval. This means that Brownback very well could be leading among Kansas voters, but the race is most certainly very close at this point in time, and based upon this survey, it is more likely that Brownback is trailing than leading.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: illBisonYourdele on March 11, 2014, 03:15:00 PM
Looks like Brownback is still less popular than Obama in Kansas. Is Sam in trouble this November?

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2014/PPP_Release_KS_221.pdf

Brownback wins the internet polling vs Davis 42-30% but loses the phones 44-40%.  that just doesnt seem right

Only 20% of the polling was done on the internet, so the sample size probably isn't quite big enough to draw any conclusions from phone vs online. If you look at the approval ratings, the Brownback approval rating from the online voters was lower than it was with the phone voters, but the disapproval rating was also much lower. There were a large percentage of "not sures".

just a small sample from the large pool of 693 KS voters surveyed in this poll

A pool of 693 voters giving an approval rating of 33% would have a margin of error of +/- 3.5% in achieving a 95% confidence interval. This means that Brownback very well could be leading among Kansas voters, but the race is most certainly very close at this point in time, and based upon this survey, it is more likely that Brownback is trailing than leading.

i just cant believe 550 people still have landlines
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 11, 2014, 03:21:58 PM
Looks like Brownback is still less popular than Obama in Kansas. Is Sam in trouble this November?

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2014/PPP_Release_KS_221.pdf

Brownback wins the internet polling vs Davis 42-30% but loses the phones 44-40%.  that just doesnt seem right

Only 20% of the polling was done on the internet, so the sample size probably isn't quite big enough to draw any conclusions from phone vs online. If you look at the approval ratings, the Brownback approval rating from the online voters was lower than it was with the phone voters, but the disapproval rating was also much lower. There were a large percentage of "not sures".

just a small sample from the large pool of 693 KS voters surveyed in this poll

A pool of 693 voters giving an approval rating of 33% would have a margin of error of +/- 3.5% in achieving a 95% confidence interval. This means that Brownback very well could be leading among Kansas voters, but the race is most certainly very close at this point in time, and based upon this survey, it is more likely that Brownback is trailing than leading.

i just cant believe 550 people still have landlines

Most elderly people that I know have them.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: SkinnyBenny on March 11, 2014, 04:11:58 PM
Looks like Brownback is still less popular than Obama in Kansas. Is Sam in trouble this November?

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2014/PPP_Release_KS_221.pdf

In honest answer, probably not. This is not a good year for libtards anywhere, let alone Kansas.

You realize conservatives have again made Kansas a serious national laughingstock this year, right? And, like, even moderates are getting tired of it?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 11, 2014, 04:44:20 PM
Both sides need to just knock off all the social engineering BS and work on the economy. Everything else will fall into place.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on March 11, 2014, 05:19:18 PM
Both sides need to just knock off all the social engineering BS and work on the economy. Everything else will fall into place.
Both sides need to just knock off all the social engineering BS and work on the economy. Everything else will fall into place.

Typical neocon, "who cares about civil rights? Just give me more money!"
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on March 11, 2014, 05:23:23 PM
social engineering and economy are both very clear objectives and in no way intertwined
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 11, 2014, 05:28:29 PM
Both sides need to just knock off all the social engineering BS and work on the economy. Everything else will fall into place.
Both sides need to just knock off all the social engineering BS and work on the economy. Everything else will fall into place.

Typical neocon, "who cares about civil rights? Just give me more money!"

Who gets hurt the most by a crap economy?

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 11, 2014, 05:40:18 PM
social engineering and economy are both very clear objectives and in no way intertwined

Wow, really? All of this talk about everyone paying their fair share and income inequality, raising minimum wages, etc. is totally unaffected by a poor economy? These kinds of issues never come up when the economy is growing at a normal rate. 
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Paul Moscow on March 11, 2014, 06:32:19 PM
Both sides need to just knock off all the social engineering BS and work on the economy. Everything else will fall into place.
Both sides need to just knock off all the social engineering BS and work on the economy. Everything else will fall into place.

Typical neocon, "who cares about civil rights? Just give me more money!"

Who gets hurt the most by a crap economy?

The issue is that they haven't benefitted during a good economy, either. Looking at data now even during the several year "rebound" its apparent that the gains are still not returning to the middle and lower income classes that lost so much. Hence the argument for wage increases.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on March 11, 2014, 06:38:00 PM
social engineering and economy are both very clear objectives and in no way intertwined

Wow, really? All of this talk about everyone paying their fair share and income inequality, raising minimum wages, etc. is totally unaffected by a poor economy? These kinds of issues never come up when the economy is growing at a normal rate. 

dude do you read your posts?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 11, 2014, 09:19:48 PM
Typical neocon, "who cares about civil rights? Just give me more money!"

This is what makes seven one of the best libtards in the pit. Can't tell the difference between someone asking for somebody else's money and someone asking to keep more of their own.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 11, 2014, 09:25:13 PM
Both sides need to just knock off all the social engineering BS and work on the economy. Everything else will fall into place.
Both sides need to just knock off all the social engineering BS and work on the economy. Everything else will fall into place.

Typical neocon, "who cares about civil rights? Just give me more money!"

Who gets hurt the most by a crap economy?

The issue is that they haven't benefitted during a good economy, either. Looking at data now even during the several year "rebound" its apparent that the gains are still not returning to the middle and lower income classes that lost so much. Hence the argument for wage increases.

:lol: Quite a "rebound" we're having! Guys, this Moscow guy is onto something. The poor can't get ahead even in this roaring recovery, so we really ought to hike the minimum wage and raise taxes or take on more debt to redistribute more money to them. The economy is fine - we've got to address inequality!
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 11, 2014, 09:29:46 PM
PPP is a left leaning pollster. Not sure how you guys don't know this. That being said, Brownback isn't winning this round by 30 points like he did last last time. Probably more like 10 or 15.

The only things that have directly caused more poverty than social engineering are street drugs and Barack Obama. The unintended consequences of social engineering invariably outweigh the benefits by a substantial margin.  Most recent examples include the mortgage crisis and crushing student loan debt.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Paul Moscow on March 11, 2014, 11:06:52 PM
Both sides need to just knock off all the social engineering BS and work on the economy. Everything else will fall into place.
Both sides need to just knock off all the social engineering BS and work on the economy. Everything else will fall into place.

Typical neocon, "who cares about civil rights? Just give me more money!"

Who gets hurt the most by a crap economy?

The issue is that they haven't benefitted during a good economy, either. Looking at data now even during the several year "rebound" its apparent that the gains are still not returning to the middle and lower income classes that lost so much. Hence the argument for wage increases.

:lol: Quite a "rebound" we're having! Guys, this Moscow guy is onto something. The poor can't get ahead even in this roaring recovery, so we really ought to hike the minimum wage and raise taxes or take on more debt to redistribute more money to them. The economy is fine - we've got to address inequality!

You obviously didn't see the part where I put "rebound" in quotations. Rebound or not though, the fact remains that the 1% have captured 95% of the income gains that have materialized.  There is something structurally wrong. If you don't have an issue with that or would rather quibble over your own misinterpretations that's your thing.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 12, 2014, 06:52:39 PM
PPP is a left leaning pollster. Not sure how you guys don't know this. That being said, Brownback isn't winning this round by 30 points like he did last last time. Probably more like 10 or 15.

The only things that have directly caused more poverty than social engineering are street drugs and Barack Obama. The unintended consequences of social engineering invariably outweigh the benefits by a substantial margin.  Most recent examples include the mortgage crisis and crushing student loan debt.

The press release did seem left-leaning, but I don't think the questions asked should have skewed the results.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 12, 2014, 09:19:44 PM
The income inequality people come off as really rough ridin' crazy. Very dogmatic in a reli-jelly way.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 12, 2014, 09:22:36 PM
PPP is a Democrat pollster, that aren't trying to hide that. It's how the identify themselves.

They had b.o. winning the general election by 10 points
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: kim carnes on March 12, 2014, 10:27:08 PM
 :clap: 4 kansas
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: CNS on March 14, 2014, 09:05:13 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html)

Bill will require that parents Opt-in for their kids to receive sex ed in school.

This should create some interesting teen pregnancy stats if it passes.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Cire on March 14, 2014, 09:32:04 AM
some districts already do that.

Not opt out but opt in.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: ben ji on March 14, 2014, 09:34:14 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html)

Bill will require that parents Opt-in for their kids to receive sex ed in school.

This should create some interesting teen pregnancy stats if it passes.

ben ji's sex ed from his dad was "Dont knock anyone up and to wear TWO condoms to be safe"(actual sex ed in schools told me this was a bad idea)
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: CNS on March 14, 2014, 10:05:37 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html)

Bill will require that parents Opt-in for their kids to receive sex ed in school.

This should create some interesting teen pregnancy stats if it passes.

ben ji's sex ed from his dad was "Dont knock anyone up and to wear TWO condoms to be safe"(actual sex ed in schools told me this was a bad idea)

yeah, imo, the kids def need it from a source that won't be awkward and will fully inform them.  This is a tough one for me.  I mean, an uninformed kid could really make life tough without the right info but kids are still minors and parents def have rights.

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on March 14, 2014, 02:05:26 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html)

Bill will require that parents Opt-in for their kids to receive sex ed in school.

This should create some interesting teen pregnancy stats if it passes.

ben ji's sex ed from his dad was "Dont knock anyone up and to wear TWO condoms to be safe"(actual sex ed in schools told me this was a bad idea)

ha, mine was "do what you want, just don't make me a grandma".  now she asks me all the time "when are you going to make me a grandma?"  confusing messages if you ask me.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 14, 2014, 02:17:06 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html)

Bill will require that parents Opt-in for their kids to receive sex ed in school.

This should create some interesting teen pregnancy stats if it passes.

ben ji's sex ed from his dad was "Dont knock anyone up and to wear TWO condoms to be safe"(actual sex ed in schools told me this was a bad idea)

yeah, imo, the kids def need it from a source that won't be awkward and will fully inform them.  This is a tough one for me.  I mean, an uninformed kid could really make life tough without the right info but kids are still minors and parents def have rights.

I agree that the parents have rights and should be able to opt out.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Paul Moscow on March 14, 2014, 02:20:25 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html)

Bill will require that parents Opt-in for their kids to receive sex ed in school.

This should create some interesting teen pregnancy stats if it passes.

ben ji's sex ed from his dad was "Dont knock anyone up and to wear TWO condoms to be safe"(actual sex ed in schools told me this was a bad idea)

yeah, imo, the kids def need it from a source that won't be awkward and will fully inform them.  This is a tough one for me.  I mean, an uninformed kid could really make life tough without the right info but kids are still minors and parents def have rights.

I agree that the parents have rights and should be able to opt out.

denied. lots of parents are dumb and their dumb kids being dumb and having more dumb kids hurts society.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: ChiComCat on March 14, 2014, 02:29:41 PM
Parents have rights but certain lines need to be drawn at the health of their child.  I don't know where I would draw it in regards to sex ed.  Kids need to know of risks but I would be ok with parents having a say in prevention methods.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 14, 2014, 02:33:32 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html)

Bill will require that parents Opt-in for their kids to receive sex ed in school.

This should create some interesting teen pregnancy stats if it passes.

ben ji's sex ed from his dad was "Dont knock anyone up and to wear TWO condoms to be safe"(actual sex ed in schools told me this was a bad idea)

yeah, imo, the kids def need it from a source that won't be awkward and will fully inform them.  This is a tough one for me.  I mean, an uninformed kid could really make life tough without the right info but kids are still minors and parents def have rights.

I agree that the parents have rights and should be able to opt out.

denied. lots of parents are dumb and their dumb kids being dumb and having more dumb kids hurts society.

Less than 5% of parents opt out.

http://www.siecus.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=Feature.showFeature&featureID=2273

Having an "opt out" policy that allows parents some control over some of the things their kids are taught in school is just fine. An opt-in policy is a bad idea, though. Something tells me that less than 50% of parents would opt in.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 14, 2014, 02:49:45 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html)

Bill will require that parents Opt-in for their kids to receive sex ed in school.

This should create some interesting teen pregnancy stats if it passes.

ben ji's sex ed from his dad was "Dont knock anyone up and to wear TWO condoms to be safe"(actual sex ed in schools told me this was a bad idea)

yeah, imo, the kids def need it from a source that won't be awkward and will fully inform them.  This is a tough one for me.  I mean, an uninformed kid could really make life tough without the right info but kids are still minors and parents def have rights.

I agree that the parents have rights and should be able to opt out.

denied. lots of parents are dumb and their dumb kids being dumb and having more dumb kids hurts society.

I can only assume that you would be ok with licensing and regulating those who can and can't have kids, then sterilize those that don't pass the test.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on March 14, 2014, 02:56:47 PM
yeah, parents should be able to opt out of math or typing also
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 14, 2014, 03:03:50 PM
yeah, parents should be able to opt out of math or typing also

They can and do. Many parents choose to home school.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Paul Moscow on March 14, 2014, 03:04:25 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html)

Bill will require that parents Opt-in for their kids to receive sex ed in school.

This should create some interesting teen pregnancy stats if it passes.

ben ji's sex ed from his dad was "Dont knock anyone up and to wear TWO condoms to be safe"(actual sex ed in schools told me this was a bad idea)

yeah, imo, the kids def need it from a source that won't be awkward and will fully inform them.  This is a tough one for me.  I mean, an uninformed kid could really make life tough without the right info but kids are still minors and parents def have rights.

I agree that the parents have rights and should be able to opt out.

denied. lots of parents are dumb and their dumb kids being dumb and having more dumb kids hurts society.

Less than 5% of parents opt out.

http://www.siecus.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=Feature.showFeature&featureID=2273

Having an "opt out" policy that allows parents some control over some of the things their kids are taught in school is just fine. An opt-in policy is a bad idea, though. Something tells me that less than 50% of parents would opt in.

Um, did you read your own link? Parents do have control, they can opt-out at the time that sex-ed classes are happening. When I was in elementary school this was the case, and I remember one girl in the whole class that went to watch beauty and beast or something while everyone else was learning about why they were getting BFNARs.  I don't see what the problem is. Seriously, what is it? Are you of the belief that sex-ed is useless?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 14, 2014, 03:08:04 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html)

Bill will require that parents Opt-in for their kids to receive sex ed in school.

This should create some interesting teen pregnancy stats if it passes.

ben ji's sex ed from his dad was "Dont knock anyone up and to wear TWO condoms to be safe"(actual sex ed in schools told me this was a bad idea)

yeah, imo, the kids def need it from a source that won't be awkward and will fully inform them.  This is a tough one for me.  I mean, an uninformed kid could really make life tough without the right info but kids are still minors and parents def have rights.

I agree that the parents have rights and should be able to opt out.

denied. lots of parents are dumb and their dumb kids being dumb and having more dumb kids hurts society.

Less than 5% of parents opt out.

http://www.siecus.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=Feature.showFeature&featureID=2273

Having an "opt out" policy that allows parents some control over some of the things their kids are taught in school is just fine. An opt-in policy is a bad idea, though. Something tells me that less than 50% of parents would opt in.

Um, did you read your own link? Parents do have control, they can opt-out at the time that sex-ed classes are happening. When I was in elementary school this was the case, and I remember one girl in the whole class that went to watch beauty and beast or something while everyone else was learning about why they were getting BFNARs.  I don't see what the problem is. Seriously, what is it? Are you of the belief that sex-ed is useless?

That isn't what I'm saying at all. I think every kid should go to sex ed, but if their parents don't want them there, having the opportunity to opt out is just fine. It's not like very many parents actually opt out. Asking parents to opt in would be bad, though.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on March 14, 2014, 03:10:20 PM
yup, if you don't want your kids to be educated, that's your right as a parent.  children are property of their parents after all, and they can do with them whatever they see fit.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Paul Moscow on March 14, 2014, 03:20:33 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/13/4888197/kansas-house-committee-advances.html)

Bill will require that parents Opt-in for their kids to receive sex ed in school.

This should create some interesting teen pregnancy stats if it passes.

ben ji's sex ed from his dad was "Dont knock anyone up and to wear TWO condoms to be safe"(actual sex ed in schools told me this was a bad idea)

yeah, imo, the kids def need it from a source that won't be awkward and will fully inform them.  This is a tough one for me.  I mean, an uninformed kid could really make life tough without the right info but kids are still minors and parents def have rights.

I agree that the parents have rights and should be able to opt out.

denied. lots of parents are dumb and their dumb kids being dumb and having more dumb kids hurts society.

Less than 5% of parents opt out.

http://www.siecus.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=Feature.showFeature&featureID=2273

Having an "opt out" policy that allows parents some control over some of the things their kids are taught in school is just fine. An opt-in policy is a bad idea, though. Something tells me that less than 50% of parents would opt in.

Um, did you read your own link? Parents do have control, they can opt-out at the time that sex-ed classes are happening. When I was in elementary school this was the case, and I remember one girl in the whole class that went to watch beauty and beast or something while everyone else was learning about why they were getting BFNARs.  I don't see what the problem is. Seriously, what is it? Are you of the belief that sex-ed is useless?

That isn't what I'm saying at all. I think every kid should go to sex ed, but if their parents don't want them there, having the opportunity to opt out is just fine. It's not like very many parents actually opt out. Asking parents to opt in would be bad, though.

Ah yes, agreed. Having opt-in sex-ed would create the illusion that the effectiveness of sex-education is neutral or undecided rather than the vital component of adolescence that everyone knows it is. Over time, we would forget that sex education was ever part of a core curriculum and would become something akin to signing your kid up for Spanish or Band which is what these morons want.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on March 14, 2014, 03:21:35 PM
I've never understood the problem w/ sex ed.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Paul Moscow on March 14, 2014, 03:27:55 PM
I've never understood the problem w/ sex ed.

The problem is that its not good enough. But undoubtedly there is that same group of people that want to rehash the (already settled) discussion of whether or not it should exist at all.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 14, 2014, 03:37:09 PM
I've never understood the problem w/ sex ed.

It's mostly parents that don't trust their kids enough to believe that they will follow the values they have been taught if they are aware of ways to avoid horrible consequences.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: CNS on March 14, 2014, 03:52:40 PM
I've never understood the problem w/ sex ed.

To some religious,  it teaches sin through birth control and doesn't discourage premarital.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: CNS on March 14, 2014, 03:55:32 PM
The ks proposed bill had a change to opt out out committee, rather than opt in, but it was ignored.  Ks wants as few kids sexually educated as possible.

In states that have such rules, you shouldn't be eligible for state assistance if you can't afford to have kids and aren't on record as taking the class.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on April 04, 2014, 05:02:52 PM
Kobach showing those rough ridin' prairie chickens who's boss.

http://news.wildlife.org/featured/series-of-bills-threaten-conservation-in-kansas/
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sys on April 04, 2014, 05:24:41 PM
Kobach showing those rough ridin' prairie chickens who's boss.

http://news.wildlife.org/featured/series-of-bills-threaten-conservation-in-kansas/

lol @ kansas.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: p1k3 on April 04, 2014, 05:30:52 PM
Kobach showing those rough ridin' prairie chickens who's boss.

http://news.wildlife.org/featured/series-of-bills-threaten-conservation-in-kansas/

lol @ kansas.

wgaf  :zzz:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 06, 2014, 10:37:09 PM
Hunting endangered species ought to help tourism

   http://kdwpt.state.ks.us/news/KDWPT-Info/News/News-Archive/2012-Weekly-News/8-2-12/PRAIRIE-CHICKEN-PERMIT-REQUIRED-THIS-FALL

Our Fed Govt has mental retardation
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MeatSauce on June 11, 2014, 11:25:53 AM
http://www.pitch.com/FastPitch/archives/2014/06/11/a-roeland-park-equal-rights-ordinance-takes-a-hit-from-a-dubious-hired-gun

 :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: massofcatfan on June 11, 2014, 04:13:01 PM
Is this the official Brownback for President thread?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: CNS on June 11, 2014, 04:21:00 PM
No, that is the Gov thread.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 11, 2014, 04:34:08 PM
Hunting endangered species ought to help tourism

   http://kdwpt.state.ks.us/news/KDWPT-Info/News/News-Archive/2012-Weekly-News/8-2-12/PRAIRIE-CHICKEN-PERMIT-REQUIRED-THIS-FALL

Our Fed Govt has mental retardation

It's just like a dollar stamp.  So they can gather data on how many people hunt chickens.  No big deal to me.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on August 10, 2015, 10:22:31 PM
In looking for a thread to put this link in I realize how much crap I missed on this board in July. work :shakesfist:

Anywhoooo here you go. Milton Wolf is a gross shithead
http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article30611139.html
Quote
“I wore my boots today because I knew it was going to get kind of deep in there when Sen. Moran started answering these questions,” Wolf said afterward.
Non Wolf related in the same article but hilarious
Quote
Bob Awerkamp, a Maple Hill resident, accused the senator of giving up the nation’s sovereignty by allowing the negotiations with Iran to begin in the first place
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on October 20, 2016, 05:04:45 AM
What's up with your mans?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kansas-dred-scott-brief_us_5807ec18e4b0dd54ce377d88
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: renocat on October 20, 2016, 07:42:30 AM
What's up with your mans?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kansas-dred-scott-brief_us_5807ec18e4b0dd54ce377d88
Boy this is western Kansas dirt for brains stuff.  Even Renonese have evolved past this level.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: chum1 on January 03, 2017, 07:33:17 PM
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: steve dave on January 03, 2017, 07:43:27 PM
OMFG
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on January 03, 2017, 07:56:49 PM
How sad
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: wetwillie on January 03, 2017, 07:58:44 PM
"Are you going to sneeze?"  :lol:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 04, 2017, 08:14:55 AM
I think we just might have elected a good one.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 04, 2017, 01:39:04 PM
that's amazing
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 04, 2017, 03:29:56 PM
I don't "get" dabbing
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 04, 2017, 03:40:52 PM
"According to Rep. Marshall's Twitter account, his son has been grounded."

http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article124403454.html#emlnl=Afternoon_Headlines#storylink=cpy
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 04, 2017, 03:51:39 PM
I don't "get" dabbing

it is super dumb and may have once been awesome or w/e but white people ruined it
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on January 04, 2017, 03:55:31 PM
I don't "get" dabbing

9 year old kids love the crap out of it
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: steve dave on January 04, 2017, 04:03:11 PM
I don't "get" dabbing

9 year old kids love the crap out of it

and that makes it awesome in my book
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on January 04, 2017, 04:12:07 PM
I don't "get" dabbing

9 year old kids love the crap out of it

and that makes it awesome in my book
agreed
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: kim carnes on January 04, 2017, 06:15:23 PM
Dab it up
Dab it up
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on January 04, 2017, 09:19:00 PM
wow, just watched it with the audio, so good.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sys on January 04, 2017, 09:21:32 PM
that is very funny and the kid is an idiot.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 05, 2017, 10:20:17 AM
I don't "get" dabbing

9 year old kids love the crap out of it

and that makes it awesome in my book
agreed

watching kids have fun is v. fun.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 05, 2017, 10:20:36 AM
that is very funny and the kid is an idiot.

most kids are.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 06, 2017, 11:04:46 AM
http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article124918834.html
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2017, 11:05:49 AM
Pot, Kettle, Etc
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on January 06, 2017, 11:11:38 AM
Horrible person
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2017, 11:51:03 AM
Tim huelskamp is an irl horrible human being
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: renocat on January 11, 2017, 10:42:23 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/the-worst-states-for-black-americans/ar-AAlj1Zm#page=3
US News says Kansas is the 9th worst.state for blacks to live in. Kind of surprising.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 05, 2017, 05:29:44 PM
What other states are doing:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/blue-state-budget-breakdowns-1499198223?mod=e2tw
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: LickNeckey on July 05, 2017, 05:31:35 PM
 :jerk: liberal media
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 06, 2017, 06:10:22 AM
Is the dab still a thing?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 06, 2017, 12:48:33 PM
amongst losery white people, yes
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Brock Landers on July 06, 2017, 01:18:57 PM
Just seeing this thread title makes me hungry for applesauce.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: steve dave on July 06, 2017, 08:50:20 PM
amongst losery white people, yes

no, amongst adorable little white kids
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: SdK on July 06, 2017, 09:15:38 PM
I hope your kids aren't doing dabs, sd.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Skipper44 on July 11, 2017, 03:34:39 PM
Cam pretty much made the dab cool and white kids love Cam - Silento should also get an assist
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: chum1 on January 08, 2018, 06:03:17 PM
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 08, 2018, 07:03:02 PM
Are you surprised this guy is a biggoted moron? Steve Alford is one of those so-called “Courageous Republicans” who joined the Dems to raise our taxes.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on January 08, 2018, 07:24:08 PM

This one is personal for me, both of the gentlemen sitting next to them have children my age, one of them, John Wheeler, has a daughter who I was very good friends with. I can't believe they didn't speak stronger against this, I have no idea who Alford is. This doesn't surprise me though, this is exactly how we think white people talk about us when we're not around and the fact that this went unchecked confirms it.

http://www.gctelegram.com/news/20180108/rep-steve-alford-cites-belief-blacks-more-susceptible-to-marijuana

Are you surprised this guy is a biggoted moron? Steve Alford is one of those so-called “Courageous Republicans” who joined the Dems to raise our taxes.

What the eff are you talking about you lying psychopath? Alford has only run as a republican and he's won four general elections unopposed in all of them. Why tell a lie to attempt to distract from what he did?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on January 08, 2018, 07:24:36 PM
Are you surprised this guy is a biggoted moron?

he's a member of the kansas GOP, so no
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Chingon on January 08, 2018, 07:37:55 PM
I dunno, maybe it was kickball night in gcks?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 08, 2018, 08:04:16 PM
Are you surprised this guy is a biggoted moron? Steve Alford is one of those so-called “Courageous Republicans” who joined the Dems to raise our taxes.

What the eff are you talking about you lying psychopath? Alford has only run as a republican and he's won four general elections unopposed in all of them. Why tell a lie to attempt to distract from what he did?

Hey look, MIR is super pissed. Anyway, I think Alford is a known dumbshit. We conservatives don’t claim him.

http://cjonline.com/news/local/state-government/2017-02-22/see-how-your-lawmaker-voted-overriding-brownback-s-veto (http://cjonline.com/news/local/state-government/2017-02-22/see-how-your-lawmaker-voted-overriding-brownback-s-veto)
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 08, 2018, 08:40:09 PM
Are you surprised this guy is a biggoted moron? Steve Alford is one of those so-called “Courageous Republicans” who joined the Dems to raise our taxes.

What the eff are you talking about you lying psychopath? Alford has only run as a republican and he's won four general elections unopposed in all of them. Why tell a lie to attempt to distract from what he did?

Hey look, MIR is super pissed. Anyway, I think Alford is a known dumbshit. We conservatives don’t claim him.

http://cjonline.com/news/local/state-government/2017-02-22/see-how-your-lawmaker-voted-overriding-brownback-s-veto (http://cjonline.com/news/local/state-government/2017-02-22/see-how-your-lawmaker-voted-overriding-brownback-s-veto)

Well he claims you, and your voters claimed him, soooooo
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bucket on January 08, 2018, 08:42:56 PM
We don't claim Alford. He voted to raise taxes. Roy Moore is fine though.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 08, 2018, 09:32:48 PM
Are you surprised this guy is a biggoted moron? Steve Alford is one of those so-called “Courageous Republicans” who joined the Dems to raise our taxes.

What the eff are you talking about you lying psychopath? Alford has only run as a republican and he's won four general elections unopposed in all of them. Why tell a lie to attempt to distract from what he did?

Hey look, MIR is super pissed. Anyway, I think Alford is a known dumbshit. We conservatives don’t claim him.

http://cjonline.com/news/local/state-government/2017-02-22/see-how-your-lawmaker-voted-overriding-brownback-s-veto (http://cjonline.com/news/local/state-government/2017-02-22/see-how-your-lawmaker-voted-overriding-brownback-s-veto)

Well he claims you, and your voters claimed him, soooooo

Hopefully not for much longer.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 08, 2018, 09:39:09 PM
To which part?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on January 08, 2018, 09:41:59 PM
Are you surprised this guy is a biggoted moron? Steve Alford is one of those so-called “Courageous Republicans” who joined the Dems to raise our taxes.

What the eff are you talking about you lying psychopath? Alford has only run as a republican and he's won four general elections unopposed in all of them. Why tell a lie to attempt to distract from what he did?

Hey look, MIR is super pissed. Anyway, I think Alford is a known dumbshit. We conservatives don’t claim him.

http://cjonline.com/news/local/state-government/2017-02-22/see-how-your-lawmaker-voted-overriding-brownback-s-veto (http://cjonline.com/news/local/state-government/2017-02-22/see-how-your-lawmaker-voted-overriding-brownback-s-veto)


weird
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on January 08, 2018, 09:45:14 PM
notice the racism isn't what kdub rejects, it's the funding of the government that really grinds his gears
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: renocat on January 08, 2018, 10:03:21 PM
notice the racism isn't what kdub rejects, it's the funding of the government that really grinds his gears
Sometimes it is good to have some of these senile farts resign.  Weed screws up everyone.  I think it may cause cannibalism.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on January 09, 2018, 10:05:29 AM
i think ksudub's point is that the kansas republican party isn't exactly unified (because "democrats" have a hard time winning in kansas), and that alford belongs to the left leaning segment of the party.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 09, 2018, 10:25:17 AM
i think ksudub's point is that the kansas republican party isn't exactly unified (because "democrats" have a hard time winning in kansas), and that alford belongs to the left leaning segment of the party.

I think he leans pretty alt to the right.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bucket on January 09, 2018, 10:33:05 AM

Now here’s a guy KSUW can get behind!
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on January 09, 2018, 10:53:53 AM
Another law and order guy  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on January 09, 2018, 10:58:11 AM
i think ksudub's point is that the kansas republican party isn't exactly unified (because "democrats" have a hard time winning in kansas), and that alford belongs to the left leaning segment of the party.

I think he leans pretty alt to the right.
Regardless.  Ignoring the divisions within the Kansas republican party is disingenuous.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: mocat on January 09, 2018, 12:28:51 PM
Another law and order guy  :thumbs:

idk, his record indicates he is more of a middle finger to the law type guy
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 09, 2018, 01:56:48 PM
I don't think Steve Alford was trying to be demeaning with his comments. What he said was actually more in terms of "hey, I'm totally looking out for black people" - not that such ignorant paternalistic nonsense is any less offensive. Racism is racism even if it's just based on outright stupidity, as in this case.

It's just not terribly surprising to me that this RINO who raised everyone's taxes because "derp, we gotta pay what the Supreme Court tells us to pay on educayshun!" turns out to be a massive rough ridin' dumbass in other walks of life, not unlike a lot of our state representatives.

Now the question is whether anybody will step forward to challenge him for election to seize that princely $20,000 salary or whatever these dorks get paid.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: cfbandyman on January 09, 2018, 02:01:09 PM

This one is personal for me, both of the gentlemen sitting next to them have children my age, one of them, John Wheeler, has a daughter who I was very good friends with. I can't believe they didn't speak stronger against this, I have no idea who Alford is. This doesn't surprise me though, this is exactly how we think white people talk about us when we're not around and the fact that this went unchecked confirms it.

http://www.gctelegram.com/news/20180108/rep-steve-alford-cites-belief-blacks-more-susceptible-to-marijuana

Are you surprised this guy is a biggoted moron? Steve Alford is one of those so-called “Courageous Republicans” who joined the Dems to raise our taxes.

What the eff are you talking about you lying psychopath? Alford has only run as a republican and he's won four general elections unopposed in all of them. Why tell a lie to attempt to distract from what he did?

He can't get out of his own way.

i think ksudub's point is that the kansas republican party isn't exactly unified (because "democrats" have a hard time winning in kansas), and that alford belongs to the left leaning segment of the party.

I think he leans pretty alt to the right.
Regardless.  Ignoring the divisions within the Kansas republican party is disingenuous.

You're right, I wonder what one's he ignores regarding the democrats.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: treysolid on January 09, 2018, 04:11:45 PM
I don't think Steve Alford was trying to be demeaning with his comments. What he said was actually more in terms of "hey, I'm totally looking out for black people" - not that such ignorant paternalistic nonsense is any less offensive. Racism is racism even if it's just based on outright stupidity, as in this case.

It's just not terribly surprising to me that this RINO who raised everyone's taxes because "derp, we gotta pay what the Supreme Court tells us to pay on educayshun!" turns out to be a massive rough ridin' dumbass in other walks of life, not unlike a lot of our state representatives.

Now the question is whether anybody will step forward to challenge him for election to seize that princely $20,000 salary or whatever these dorks get paid.

so this guy is a RINO simply because he voted to raise taxes? do you also classify Reagan as a RINO? he raised taxes a couple of times to generate revenue for the govt.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 09, 2018, 06:09:56 PM

Now here’s a guy KSUW can get behind!





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“My mother and father came here from Italy, legally of course. I have a soft spot for the Mexican community having lived there,” he said. “I’m not going to get into my personal life, but I will say we have four grandkids and some have a different ethnic and racial background. I don’t say that. I don’t use my grandkids. So, I have a soft spot, but still, I’m going to do my job. You have to do it.”
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 09, 2018, 06:30:44 PM
I don't think Steve Alford was trying to be demeaning with his comments. What he said was actually more in terms of "hey, I'm totally looking out for black people" - not that such ignorant paternalistic nonsense is any less offensive. Racism is racism even if it's just based on outright stupidity, as in this case.

It's just not terribly surprising to me that this RINO who raised everyone's taxes because "derp, we gotta pay what the Supreme Court tells us to pay on educayshun!" turns out to be a massive rough ridin' dumbass in other walks of life, not unlike a lot of our state representatives.

Now the question is whether anybody will step forward to challenge him for election to seize that princely $20,000 salary or whatever these dorks get paid.

so this guy is a RINO simply because he voted to raise taxes? do you also classify Reagan as a RINO? he raised taxes a couple of times to generate revenue for the govt.

And a whole lot of other votes. You know you could google this stuff. https://kansaspolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/KPI-2017-KFI-lifetime-scores.pdf (https://kansaspolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/KPI-2017-KFI-lifetime-scores.pdf)
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on January 09, 2018, 06:52:57 PM
I don't think Steve Alford was trying to be demeaning with his comments. What he said was actually more in terms of "hey, I'm totally looking out for black people" - not that such ignorant paternalistic nonsense is any less offensive. Racism is racism even if it's just based on outright stupidity, as in this case.

It's just not terribly surprising to me that this RINO who raised everyone's taxes because "derp, we gotta pay what the Supreme Court tells us to pay on educayshun!" turns out to be a massive rough ridin' dumbass in other walks of life, not unlike a lot of our state representatives.

Now the question is whether anybody will step forward to challenge him for election to seize that princely $20,000 salary or whatever these dorks get paid.

so this guy is a RINO simply because he voted to raise taxes? do you also classify Reagan as a RINO? he raised taxes a couple of times to generate revenue for the govt.

And a whole lot of other votes. You know you could google this stuff. https://kansaspolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/KPI-2017-KFI-lifetime-scores.pdf (https://kansaspolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/KPI-2017-KFI-lifetime-scores.pdf)

lol is he like the very middle of republicans (in Kansas) or is it just me?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on January 10, 2018, 08:53:28 AM
regardless, I think everyone agrees that this guy is an bad person.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on January 10, 2018, 09:11:53 AM
regardless, I think everyone agrees that this guy is an bad person.

well, no. democrats actually love him because he is a tax raising lib and the democrat party is the party of racism.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on January 10, 2018, 09:12:53 AM
regardless, I think everyone agrees that this guy is an bad person.

well, no. democrats actually love him because he is a tax raising lib and the democrat party is the party of racism.
will you be serious?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2018, 11:11:25 AM
I don't think Steve Alford was trying to be demeaning with his comments. What he said was actually more in terms of "hey, I'm totally looking out for black people" - not that such ignorant paternalistic nonsense is any less offensive. Racism is racism even if it's just based on outright stupidity, as in this case.

It's just not terribly surprising to me that this RINO who raised everyone's taxes because "derp, we gotta pay what the Supreme Court tells us to pay on educayshun!" turns out to be a massive rough ridin' dumbass in other walks of life, not unlike a lot of our state representatives.

Now the question is whether anybody will step forward to challenge him for election to seize that princely $20,000 salary or whatever these dorks get paid.

so this guy is a RINO simply because he voted to raise taxes? do you also classify Reagan as a RINO? he raised taxes a couple of times to generate revenue for the govt.

And a whole lot of other votes. You know you could google this stuff. https://kansaspolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/KPI-2017-KFI-lifetime-scores.pdf (https://kansaspolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/KPI-2017-KFI-lifetime-scores.pdf)

How in the hell does that make him a RINO, you psychopath? Dlew stop caping up for KSUW, there's no upside in it at all.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on January 10, 2018, 11:52:23 AM
regardless, I think everyone agrees that this guy is an bad person.

yes but only one person is trying to paint him as a liberal in addition to an bad person
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on January 10, 2018, 04:12:23 PM
How in the hell does that make him a RINO, you psychopath? Dlew stop caping up for KSUW, there's no upside in it at all.
calls'emlikeisees'em. i don't know if this guy is a rino or not, but having an "R" next to your name in kansas doesn't say much about your political beliefs.

and, like I said, that's besides the point.  whether this guy is an alt right guy, a party-line kansas conservative, or a rino, we can all recognize that he's a very dumb politician with a very disturbing worldview.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 02, 2018, 01:42:08 PM
This stuff can't even get you high.

http://fox4kc.com/2018/01/29/bill-introduced-in-kansas-legislature-to-make-cbd-an-oil-users-say-is-life-changing-illegal-in-the-sunflower-state/
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Bloodfart on February 02, 2018, 10:17:56 PM
My niece takes that stuff for epilepsy.  The powerful prescription drugs she had been taking worked for a month or so then stop then they'd prescribe a different drug.  All of these drugs had bad side effects such as aggressive personality, depression, weight gain, etc.  My brother decided to take her off these drugs after a Dr suggested the oil.  She still has seizures regularly but at least she is back to her old self and can interact with people.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: The Big Train on February 03, 2018, 12:19:03 AM
This kind of regulation pisses me off.  Prohibition didn’t work out so well, this isn’t cocaine or anything. 
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: 8manpick on February 03, 2018, 09:01:55 AM
This kind of regulation pisses me off.  Prohibition didn’t work out so well for cocaine or anything.
FYP
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Institutional Control on February 03, 2018, 09:47:48 AM
My niece takes that stuff for epilepsy.  The powerful prescription drugs she had been taking worked for a month or so then stop then they'd prescribe a different drug.  All of these drugs had bad side effects such as aggressive personality, depression, weight gain, etc.  My brother decided to take her off these drugs after a Dr suggested the oil.  She still has seizures regularly but at least she is back to her old self and can interact with people.
Quick question as someone who has an epileptic child. What’s the point of the oil if she’s still having seizures?


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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 03, 2018, 01:18:27 PM
You really would think a state like Kansas would be all in on products like this and industrial hemp, given how easy it would be to grow here. I understand recreation marijuana being illegal, though I don’t agree with it. Our legislature is just mindblowingly stupid and they seem to one up themselves every year.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on February 03, 2018, 01:21:12 PM
The blacks are addicted to it and we have to protect them
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: wetwillie on February 03, 2018, 01:41:13 PM
#wemustprotect #thishouse
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on February 03, 2018, 08:01:01 PM
Three cheers for the pharma lobby
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 03, 2018, 11:54:00 PM
I'm guessing there are a lot of essential oils reps itt
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Bloodfart on February 06, 2018, 12:37:49 AM
My niece takes that stuff for epilepsy.  The powerful prescription drugs she had been taking worked for a month or so then stop then they'd prescribe a different drug.  All of these drugs had bad side effects such as aggressive personality, depression, weight gain, etc.  My brother decided to take her off these drugs after a Dr suggested the oil.  She still has seizures regularly but at least she is back to her old self and can interact with people.
Quick question as someone who has an epileptic child. What’s the point of the oil if she’s still having seizures?


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She has  slightly more seizures now (roughly one per week) but no side effects.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Institutional Control on February 06, 2018, 07:50:43 AM
We were in the same boat, so we stopped giving her the medication. Her neurologist started her on a new medication about a year ago and she hasn't had a seizure since and we haven't noticed any negative side effects.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Bloodfart on February 06, 2018, 09:57:24 PM
We were in the same boat, so we stopped giving her the medication. Her neurologist started her on a new medication about a year ago and she hasn't had a seizure since and we haven't noticed any negative side effects.

That's rough ridin' awesome bub! 
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: chum1 on February 09, 2018, 03:19:29 PM
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Katpappy on February 09, 2018, 07:37:44 PM
Who knows, THEY could be no worst than Brownbackuone.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on February 09, 2018, 07:42:55 PM
You're God damn right Katdaddy
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bucket on February 16, 2018, 11:08:28 AM
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 16, 2018, 11:17:45 AM

omg yes
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on February 16, 2018, 11:19:27 AM
Out the idiots, great idea
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 16, 2018, 11:20:45 AM
I am so excited to see one of those on a rover at my kid's private school in leawood I cannot contain myself.  Like can I fast forward to that?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Gooch on February 16, 2018, 01:06:01 PM
This rough ridin' guy.

http://www.kwch.com/content/news/Kobach-tries-to-halt-in-state-tuition-for-non-US-citizens-474308123.html
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 16, 2018, 01:18:41 PM
This rough ridin' guy.

http://www.kwch.com/content/news/Kobach-tries-to-halt-in-state-tuition-for-non-US-citizens-474308123.html

It's just not believable to me that a man can be as awful as Kris. He's like a living, breathing fictional character.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sys on February 16, 2018, 01:28:05 PM
those don't tread on me snakes are hot as eff.  i'd love to decorate my possessions with them if people wouldn't assume stuff about my politics as a result.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 16, 2018, 03:10:36 PM
This rough ridin' guy.

http://www.kwch.com/content/news/Kobach-tries-to-halt-in-state-tuition-for-non-US-citizens-474308123.html

It's just not believable to me that a man can be as awful as Kris. He's like a living, breathing fictional character.
Don't like Kris, but against in-state tuition for non US citizens.  If the bishops want to subsidize these people, create private scholarships.

Their families pay the same taxes every other Kansan pays to subsidize them.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 16, 2018, 03:36:29 PM
those don't tread on me snakes are hot as eff.  i'd love to decorate my possessions with them if people wouldn't assume stuff about my politics as a result.

do it.  To hell with the haters
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on February 18, 2018, 12:08:54 AM
This rough ridin' guy.

http://www.kwch.com/content/news/Kobach-tries-to-halt-in-state-tuition-for-non-US-citizens-474308123.html

He's going to win the election
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bucket on March 28, 2018, 06:08:44 PM
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Cire on March 28, 2018, 10:44:31 PM
Didn't see where that said "to own the libs "


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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 29, 2018, 12:28:30 PM
Clickbait
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bucket on April 18, 2018, 02:12:09 PM
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: chum1 on June 18, 2018, 06:50:45 PM
How do we have so many idiots?

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bucket on July 07, 2018, 03:16:07 PM
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bucket on July 17, 2018, 02:09:15 PM

 :bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 17, 2018, 06:20:59 PM
Colyer is a dillweed but I still would take him over Kobach. Less embarrassing on a national stage because no one knows who Colyer is.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: steve dave on July 19, 2018, 08:54:09 AM
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bucket on July 24, 2018, 02:29:21 PM
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Brock Landers on July 24, 2018, 02:48:22 PM
That's obvious fake news you commie libtards.  This is the most heavily attended speech to a VFW convention of all time and there's thousands more people outside who couldn't get in.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 24, 2018, 03:37:42 PM
Shouldn’t that go in the “Another round of applause for Missouri” thread?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Katpappy on July 24, 2018, 07:43:00 PM

Jees Bucket, don't you know most Americans are working and can't get off.  Unlike those UK commies, Americans know what it takes to Make America Great Again!!!  :Woohoo:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 24, 2018, 10:50:05 PM

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The president called Hawley a "special man" while speaking to over 10,000 veterans at Municipal Auditorium as part of the Veterans of Foreign Wars’ 119th Annual Convention.

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Capacity
Arena: 7,300 permanent +2,687 temporary[1]

Tough break, libtards
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 24, 2018, 10:51:01 PM
 :ROFL:

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on July 25, 2018, 05:10:01 AM

This brain genius said "outside of Western civilization there is only barbarism" and then went on to talk about Dachau, slavery, and how American Indians were treated. A truly great historical mind.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bucket on July 25, 2018, 07:28:25 AM

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The president called Hawley a "special man" while speaking to over 10,000 veterans at Municipal Auditorium as part of the Veterans of Foreign Wars’ 119th Annual Convention.

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Capacity
Arena: 7,300 permanent +2,687 temporary[1]

Tough break, libtards

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The 4,000 veterans who gathered for the speech remained energetic from the time Trump took the stage to Lee Greenwood’s “God Bless the USA” and chants of “U.S.A.” Throughout the speech, they cheered as he touted goals he said his administration had met, promised to cut trade deficits and took aim at Democrats, whom he called “disciples of a very low-IQ person, Maxine Waters,” a California congresswoman.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article215418920.html

I guess we need some visual proof, FSD.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bucket on September 05, 2018, 01:00:27 PM
Invalid Tweet ID
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bucket on January 23, 2019, 08:19:41 PM

Is this good or bad?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: steve dave on January 23, 2019, 08:23:47 PM
states shouldn't have a say in this crap. it's just going to make your hs teams miss their games against cross state opponents because hs administrators are low/mediums
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Spracne on January 23, 2019, 08:27:07 PM
A federal law mandating DST would actually be a legit use of Congress's Commerce Clause power!
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sys on January 23, 2019, 08:28:29 PM
do it, kansas.  be a leader.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: catastrophe on January 23, 2019, 09:20:24 PM
I’m pretty torn on the DST debate, but one thing I’m sure of is I don’t like states just willy nilly doing their own thing. Looking at you Arizona.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: chum1 on January 23, 2019, 09:27:35 PM
It was kind of a PIA to know what time it would be in Arizona before I drove there from Vegas. On the other hand, it kinda wasn't because I only did that once in my life.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on January 23, 2019, 09:29:58 PM
I'm in favor of this nationally, but don't want to deal with the headache of living in a split metro
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: mocat on January 23, 2019, 09:34:20 PM
Wasn't dst invented like in the 50s specifically for hayseed states like kansas?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Spracne on January 23, 2019, 09:37:39 PM
Wasn't dst invented like in the 50s specifically for hayseed states like kansas?

The Wikipedia page on it is pretty fascinating. And 1918 in the States, btw.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 24, 2019, 08:21:11 AM
If we are going to do anything, we should stay in daylight savings time. Get rid of standard time.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: ChiComCat on January 24, 2019, 08:24:21 AM
I have to work with too much business that is out of state to deal with this
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 24, 2019, 09:03:08 AM
Little insidery info, the new team for the most part doesn't have the first clue.   Gonna be a fun ride in Kansas (not really a fan of Brownback), but LibDerp Nation will declare victory no matter what.

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on January 24, 2019, 09:13:48 AM
Laura Kelly restoring LGBT protections as her first act as governor has dax predictably upset.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 24, 2019, 09:15:59 AM
Laura Kelly restoring LGBT protections as her first act as governor has dax predictably upset.

Couldn't care less about that stuff, good for her.

What I'm speaking to has nothing to do with that and impacts  all Kansan's. 

The new team . . . clueless

Nice flail as usual Parody Poster LibDerp7

Also, KDOT just got raided to the tune of about $145 million.



Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: ChiComCat on January 24, 2019, 10:09:57 AM
Got an article on the KDOT thing?

Also, Brownback was doing that for years.  Although it is something I would like to see stop as I like roads and driving on them.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: wetwillie on January 24, 2019, 10:44:47 AM
Dax can you give context to the clueless bit?
Title: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 24, 2019, 12:00:04 PM
Dax can you give context to the clueless bit?

No idea about the time or energy it takes for the role.  This coming from an apolitical person well up there who got a lotta broke crap fixed.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: LickNeckey on January 24, 2019, 12:12:11 PM
deep state
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bucket on February 06, 2019, 07:59:49 PM
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on February 06, 2019, 08:39:37 PM
Suck it Virginia
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sys on February 06, 2019, 08:50:43 PM
probably impossible to get honest data, but i'd love to see a map of blackfacery incidence.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on February 06, 2019, 09:25:57 PM
probably impossible to get honest data, but i'd love to see a map of blackfacery incidence.
Yeah and the change over time

?s=19
Title: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: catastrophe on February 06, 2019, 10:09:40 PM
That can’t be from an actual yearbook
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: mocat on February 06, 2019, 10:46:52 PM
swoon
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on February 06, 2019, 10:54:03 PM
That can’t be from an actual yearbook

:dunno:

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 07, 2019, 07:51:47 AM
This is probably going to be a much bigger problem for people who were in fraternities than those who were not.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: catastrophe on February 07, 2019, 03:36:14 PM
Staging any kind of murder photo, much less one rooted in racism, and then putting it in a yearbook is like incomprehensibly stupid.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bucket on April 24, 2020, 11:03:30 AM
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: chum1 on April 24, 2020, 11:32:30 AM

Maybe it's the same guy who wrote the letter to LHC Bill Snyder. The one that Snyder always used as an example of how nice people in Kansas are.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on April 25, 2020, 04:11:58 AM

This made the NBC Nightly News
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Katpappy on April 26, 2020, 08:48:26 AM

Maybe it's the same guy who wrote the letter to LHC Bill Snyder. The one that Snyder always used as an example of how nice people in Kansas are.

Welp, he has a powercat stone on his front porch.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bucket on July 06, 2020, 01:57:31 PM
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on July 14, 2020, 08:19:12 PM
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: WildcatNkilt on July 14, 2020, 08:50:52 PM
Yikes.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on July 14, 2020, 08:53:14 PM
Republicans love committing voter fraud then turning it around and blame the Mexicans.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Trim on July 14, 2020, 09:11:12 PM
This guy's wikipedia is wild.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Watkins

And meta.  I don't think I've ever seen a wikipedia page that has a section about wikipedia.

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Watkins attempted to erase references to some stories about his behavior from his Wikipedia article, as shown in its edit history. He made at least six edits in November 2018. A subject line regarding one change read "I am Steve Watkins. My lawyers and I edited this page because it was heavily biased". Jim Joice, Watkins' chief of staff who was previously a Republican party official and staffer, further edited the article on five occasions in December 2018 and January 2019.[31]
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: wetwillie on July 14, 2020, 09:23:14 PM
I’m guessing he didn’t write the part about sucking crap at dog sled racing.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on July 14, 2020, 10:40:34 PM
This guy's wikipedia is wild.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Watkins

And meta.  I don't think I've ever seen a wikipedia page that has a section about wikipedia.

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Watkins attempted to erase references to some stories about his behavior from his Wikipedia article, as shown in its edit history. He made at least six edits in November 2018. A subject line regarding one change read "I am Steve Watkins. My lawyers and I edited this page because it was heavily biased". Jim Joice, Watkins' chief of staff who was previously a Republican party official and staffer, further edited the article on five occasions in December 2018 and January 2019.[31]

Why does his face look like melting wax in his congressional photo?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 14, 2020, 10:43:29 PM
I’m guessing he didn’t write the part about sucking crap at dog sled racing.
:lol:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: chum1 on July 27, 2020, 06:08:22 AM
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Cire on July 27, 2020, 08:18:26 AM
This guy's wikipedia is wild.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Watkins

And meta.  I don't think I've ever seen a wikipedia page that has a section about wikipedia.

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Watkins attempted to erase references to some stories about his behavior from his Wikipedia article, as shown in its edit history. He made at least six edits in November 2018. A subject line regarding one change read "I am Steve Watkins. My lawyers and I edited this page because it was heavily biased". Jim Joice, Watkins' chief of staff who was previously a Republican party official and staffer, further edited the article on five occasions in December 2018 and January 2019.[31]

Why does his face look like melting wax in his congressional photo?
Have you ever seen him speak?


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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on July 27, 2020, 05:02:33 PM
This guy's wikipedia is wild.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Watkins

And meta.  I don't think I've ever seen a wikipedia page that has a section about wikipedia.

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Watkins attempted to erase references to some stories about his behavior from his Wikipedia article, as shown in its edit history. He made at least six edits in November 2018. A subject line regarding one change read "I am Steve Watkins. My lawyers and I edited this page because it was heavily biased". Jim Joice, Watkins' chief of staff who was previously a Republican party official and staffer, further edited the article on five occasions in December 2018 and January 2019.[31]

Why does his face look like melting wax in his congressional photo?
Have you ever seen him speak?


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I haven't lived in Kansas in nearly a decade and that isn't someone I'd seek out to hear anyway.

I think I've only seen two Republican politicians speak publicly, Nancy Kasselbaum and Steve King. Kasselbaum was for a Landon Lecture, I also met Fred Phelps that day. I went to see Steve King for shock value and I thought there was a 10% chance he'd be taken out and I wanted to be there if it happened.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: ben ji on July 28, 2020, 08:52:10 AM
This guy's wikipedia is wild.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Watkins

And meta.  I don't think I've ever seen a wikipedia page that has a section about wikipedia.

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Watkins attempted to erase references to some stories about his behavior from his Wikipedia article, as shown in its edit history. He made at least six edits in November 2018. A subject line regarding one change read "I am Steve Watkins. My lawyers and I edited this page because it was heavily biased". Jim Joice, Watkins' chief of staff who was previously a Republican party official and staffer, further edited the article on five occasions in December 2018 and January 2019.[31]

Why does his face look like melting wax in his congressional photo?
Have you ever seen him speak?


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I haven't lived in Kansas in nearly a decade and that isn't someone I'd seek out to hear anyway.

I think I've only seen two Republican politicians speak publicly, Nancy Kasselbaum and Steve King. Kasselbaum was for a Landon Lecture, I also met Fred Phelps that day. I went to see Steve King for shock value and I thought there was a 10% chance he'd be taken out and I wanted to be there if it happened.

K-State had some big time people come in for Landon Lectures when I was in school. Saw Bush(W), Bill Clinton and Rumsfield. Looks like they also had Robert Gates (sec of def), David Petraeus and Vicente Fox speak while I was in school but I don't think I went to those.

I looked at who has spoken recently and its not nearly as impressive, Pompeo in 2019 and Sonia Sotomayor in 2011 were the only names that jumped out at me.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Institutional Control on July 28, 2020, 08:57:38 AM
I met Senators Kassebaum and Dole when I went to the capitol in high school for FFA.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on July 28, 2020, 01:37:56 PM
Check out the 1967 - 1970 Landon Lecture lineup:

1970
Speaker   Date
Earl Warren
Former Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court
The Alternative is Chaos   Oct. 21, 1970

Richard M. Nixon
U.S. President
It's Time to Stand Up and Be Counted   Sept. 16, 1970

Walter J. Hickel
U.S. Secretary of Interior
Be Part of the Solution, Not Part of the Problem   April 6, 1970

The Venerable Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen
Archbishop of the Titular See of Newport (Wales)
Three Forms of Love   March 16, 1970

Hubert H. Humphrey
Former U.S. Vice President
How We Can Make Our Government Work   Jan. 9, 1970

1969
Speaker   Date
Edward W. Brooke
U.S. Senator, Massachusetts
National Security: Dollars, Demands and Dilemmas
Oct. 6, 1969

Gen. W.C. Westmoreland
U.S. Army Chief of Staff
The Role of the U.S. Army in Today's World   April 9, 1969

Mike Mansfield
U.S. Senator, Montana, and U.S. Senate Majority Leader
A Pacific Perspective
March 10, 1969

1968
Speaker   Date
Arthur Schlesinger
Former Presidential Adviser
The 1968 Election: A Historical Perspective
Nov. 14, 1968

Nelson A. Rockefeller
Governor of New York
Our Country's Problems, Solutions   May 9, 1968

Robert F. Kennedy
U.S. Senator, New York
Conflict in Vietnam and at Home   
March 18, 1968

1967
Speaker   Date
George Romney
Governor of Michigan
The Challenge of International Development   Dec. 6, 1967

Ronald Reagan
Governor of California
Higher Education: Its Role in Contemporary America   Oct. 26, 1967

Ralph McGill
Pulitzer Prize-winning Journalist and Publisher
The Emerging South: Politics and Issues   May 17, 1967
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: LickNeckey on July 28, 2020, 01:45:34 PM
My father still talks about the Bobby Kennedy lecture.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on July 28, 2020, 01:48:57 PM
I would have loved to see rfk
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on July 28, 2020, 03:06:44 PM
I would have loved to see rfk
Not to mention Martin Luther King, Jr speaking on 19 Jan 1968 at AFH less than 3 months before he was murdered.

https://www.lib.k-state.edu/martin-luther-king-jr-visits-k-state#:~:text=On%20January%2019%2C%201968%2C%20K,our%20nation%2C%20the%20progress%20made (https://www.lib.k-state.edu/martin-luther-king-jr-visits-k-state#:~:text=On%20January%2019%2C%201968%2C%20K,our%20nation%2C%20the%20progress%20made)

Our society continues to stubbornly ignore his prophetic wisdom:

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King reinforced the importance of pushing for change through non-violent protests and actions. He reasoned that it was “the most potent weapon available to oppressed people in their struggle for freedom and human dignity.” His address also expressed his opposition to the Vietnam War. He felt we had greater problems to solve on the home front, especially since war efforts appeared futile and incapable of reaching success. Quoting poverty and civil rights as primary issues, he added that the expanse of money funneled into the war effort would have been better utilized for these problems instead.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: LickNeckey on July 28, 2020, 04:24:57 PM
Bobby was also assassinated roughly three months after his Landon iirc
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Trim on July 29, 2020, 04:55:36 PM
https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article244554662.html

https://www.kansas.com/news/coronavirus/article244571757.html?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on August 13, 2020, 11:12:52 AM
https://amp.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article244930027.html?__twitter_impression=true

 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 13, 2020, 11:30:57 AM
If he were older, the stuff from middle school wouldn't be a big deal to me. It's refreshing that he admits to doing it when you compare him to someone like Kavanaugh. He's just 19, though. This is recent behavior, and why on earth would anyone vote for any 19 year old to hold public office, anyway?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Katpappy on August 13, 2020, 03:39:15 PM
https://amp.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article244930027.html?__twitter_impression=true

 :sdeek:

Apparently, POS Pubs approve of this racist eff.  Otherwise they would have a candidate nominated to run against him.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sys on August 13, 2020, 05:13:39 PM
https://amp.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article244930027.html?__twitter_impression=true

 :sdeek:

Apparently, POS Pubs approve of this racist eff.  Otherwise they would have a candidate nominated to run against him.

bold move blaming republicans for not doing more to prevent democrats from voting for this individual.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on August 13, 2020, 05:22:36 PM
Also odd calling him "racist" when the allegations don't really have anything to do with race.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Katpappy on August 13, 2020, 07:50:17 PM
https://amp.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article244930027.html?__twitter_impression=true

 :sdeek:

Apparently, POS Pubs approve of this racist eff.  Otherwise they would have a candidate nominated to run against him.

bold move blaming republicans for not doing more to prevent democrats from voting for this individual.

There isn't an pub running for the position.  Also, the Demrats must of had a POS incumbent that couldn't win the primary.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 13, 2020, 08:54:32 PM
So everyone’s just gonna look the other way on this predator distributing child pornography?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sys on August 13, 2020, 09:36:45 PM
So everyone’s just gonna look the other way on this predator distributing child pornography?

as i understand it, they already did.  he won the primary and is running unopposed in the general.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: steve dave on August 13, 2020, 09:48:00 PM
maybe, like, arrest him? problem solved?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sys on August 13, 2020, 10:14:53 PM
not a lawyer, but i think there is usually a thing in child porn laws where it has to be an adult doing the distributing for it to be illegal.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Katpappy on August 13, 2020, 10:45:26 PM
This is a major flaw with elections.  Most of the voting public don't know and don't investigate candidates.  This is why we got a bunch of stupid, corrupt thieves and idiots running this government.   The worst part is this crap has been getting steadily more stupid, corrupt, crookeder, and downright shittier for the general public.  I don't see it getting any better in my lifetime.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: steve dave on August 13, 2020, 10:50:20 PM
not a lawyer, but i think there is usually a thing in child porn laws where it has to be an adult doing the distributing for it to be illegal.

I guess that makes sense
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on August 13, 2020, 11:42:26 PM
So everyone’s just gonna look the other way on this predator distributing child pornography?

IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL! That's an outrage, where the eff are these people's parents? I don't think there is any way a middle schooler can act like that, as prolifically as he did, without attentive adults not noticing. Sorry fellow Gen X parents, but we're rough ridin' awful at this.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Cire on August 14, 2020, 12:20:38 AM
Middle school aged kids know damn well they can’t send nudes


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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on August 17, 2020, 11:58:35 AM
Also, and people ITT are already probably  aware, but  "middle school" for this guy was like, 6 years ago.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: _33 on August 17, 2020, 02:09:42 PM
So everyone’s just gonna look the other way on this predator distributing child pornography?

IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL! That's an outrage, where the eff are these people's parents? I don't think there is any way a middle schooler can act like that, as prolifically as he did, without attentive adults not noticing. Sorry fellow Gen X parents, but we're rough ridin' awful at this.

Please don't lump us all together.  I'm a fantastic parent.  Like, almost embarrassingly good.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Katpappy on August 17, 2020, 02:27:12 PM
So everyone’s just gonna look the other way on this predator distributing child pornography?

IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL! That's an outrage, where the eff are these people's parents? I don't think there is any way a middle schooler can act like that, as prolifically as he did, without attentive adults not noticing. Sorry fellow Gen X parents, but we're rough ridin' awful at this.

Please don't lump us all together.  I'm a fantastic parent.  Like, almost embarrassingly good.

You got a trophy for that?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 17, 2020, 02:57:39 PM
Also, and people ITT are already probably  aware, but  "middle school" for this guy was like, 6 years ago.

6 years is an eternity when you are 19 years old.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on August 17, 2020, 03:00:13 PM
So everyone’s just gonna look the other way on this predator distributing child pornography?

IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL! That's an outrage, where the eff are these people's parents? I don't think there is any way a middle schooler can act like that, as prolifically as he did, without attentive adults not noticing. Sorry fellow Gen X parents, but we're rough ridin' awful at this.

Please don't lump us all together.  I'm a fantastic parent.  Like, almost embarrassingly good.

I mean me too, but as a generation, woof.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: cfbandyman on August 17, 2020, 06:27:44 PM
Not a parent, and no dog in this fight (other than he clearly is a POS) but I really think this is a unique problem of this day and age in the sense of I think his parents could reasonably be decent parents but these kids have tech too early they can do a lot of crap w/o you knowing. IDK, not trying to cut him or his parents any slack, just like him being a gen z kid I think tons of those kids are doing stupid horrible crap online to each other like all the time. See them acting like total shitheads on any online game.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: cfbandyman on August 17, 2020, 06:30:44 PM
Oh, and as a general follow up, I bet as more millennials and def gen z start running more for office or getting higher positions down the road, stories like this are going to happen all the time. 
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on August 22, 2020, 11:52:43 PM
National twitter types have caught on to this story
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on August 25, 2020, 12:56:09 PM
He dropped out.  :frown:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on August 25, 2020, 12:56:46 PM
BUT THEN CHANGED HIS MIND!  :billdance:

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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on August 26, 2020, 08:29:44 AM
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Passow’s relationship with Coleman ran into trouble quickly, even as she remained impressed by the drive of the young political candidate, and the two spoke of starting a life together. According to Passow, one particular incident irreparably broke their relationship. In a hot tub at an Airbnb in Kansas City, she said, the two were discussing Coleman’s interest in a threesome on December 27, 2019. Passow said it wasn’t her thing, but maybe as a birthday present she’d break up with him for just one day and he could do one. Coleman didn’t like the joke, she recalled. “He sat there for a few seconds, then he jumped on top of me, put his hands around my throat and started squeezing, and slapped me three times, and said ‘I don’t know where the eff you think you’re going,’” Passow recalled, and said she pushed him off of her.

Next, Passow said, Coleman demanded she apologize for threatening to break up, stormed out of the hot tub, and went to the car. She didn’t want to lose him, she said, and texted him an apology. He said he was only warming up the car. “I’m sorry baby I failed your crap test,” he texted back. The texts, reviewed by The Intercept, were sent to a number associated with Coleman’s campaign finance registration.
https://theintercept.com/2020/08/25/aaron-coleman-ex-girlfriend-assault/ (https://theintercept.com/2020/08/25/aaron-coleman-ex-girlfriend-assault/)
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 26, 2020, 10:26:27 AM
Is this watching another dude get on your lady a maga thing to the core or what?  It is super gross
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 26, 2020, 10:28:51 AM
This guy is a democrat. He's only 19, so maybe he just hasn't figured out he's actually MAGA yet.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sys on August 26, 2020, 11:44:34 AM
horseshoe theory validated once again.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on August 26, 2020, 11:45:10 AM
This has been a fascinating saga.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 26, 2020, 10:57:41 PM
Dlew you scoundrel I may never forgive you for what you did to me with that rollercoaster of emotion double-post up there. Was incredibly psyched to see this guy drop out, then you pulled the ol' switcheroo.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on August 26, 2020, 11:28:32 PM
horseshoe theory validated once again.

Shitty, toxic men all over the spectrum.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on September 25, 2020, 10:27:02 PM
WSU President forced out, MAGA loves nothing more than canceling people

https://amp.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article246012950.html

(https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/cxERLTCnNqDLwxSPacci3w--~B/aD01MDA7dz01MDA7c209MTthcHBpZD15dGFjaHlvbg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/homerun/feed_manager_auto_publish_494/8fa6ffbf56312cfbfd5bdd7fbf7fc534)

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Trim on October 07, 2020, 01:20:16 PM
https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/election/article246171185.html
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Institutional Control on October 07, 2020, 02:16:47 PM
That kid's a real fuckhead.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on October 07, 2020, 09:57:26 PM
What's going on with Kansas dems?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bucket on October 07, 2020, 10:03:38 PM
What's going on with Kansas dems?

Optimistic  :dunno:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on October 07, 2020, 10:09:25 PM
What's going on with Kansas dems?

Optimistic  :dunno:

Has their ever been another state in the history of the United States that nominated not one but two fuckhead criminal kids for office?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on October 07, 2020, 10:12:16 PM
What's going on with Kansas dems?

Optimistic  :dunno:

Has their ever been another state in the history of the United States that nominated not one but two fuckhead criminal kids for office?

uh the kid who did the revenge porn and choked his girlfriend is also the kid who was arrested for threatening to shoot up a school.

Is there another fuckhead criminal Kansas Dem kid I'm missing?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bucket on October 07, 2020, 10:14:07 PM
What's going on with Kansas dems?

Optimistic  :dunno:

Has their ever been another state in the history of the United States that nominated not one but two fuckhead criminal kids for office?

I was referring to potentially electing the first "Dem" senator in 88 years.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on October 07, 2020, 10:19:28 PM
What's going on with Kansas dems?

Optimistic  :dunno:

Has their ever been another state in the history of the United States that nominated not one but two fuckhead criminal kids for office?

uh the kid who did the revenge porn and choked his girlfriend is also the kid who was arrested for threatening to shoot up a school.

Is there another fuckhead criminal Kansas Dem kid I'm missing?

Wait, that was the same dude? Goddamn, they didn't vet that kid for crap.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on October 07, 2020, 10:22:44 PM
What's going on with Kansas dems?

Optimistic  :dunno:

Has their ever been another state in the history of the United States that nominated not one but two fuckhead criminal kids for office?

uh the kid who did the revenge porn and choked his girlfriend is also the kid who was arrested for threatening to shoot up a school.

Is there another fuckhead criminal Kansas Dem kid I'm missing?

Wait, that was the same dude? Goddamn, they didn't vet that kid for crap.
It's really incredible
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bucket on October 07, 2020, 10:23:46 PM
I did not see the posted article before posting.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Katpappy on October 07, 2020, 11:26:20 PM
This is a major flaw with elections.  Most of the voting public don't know and don't investigate candidates.  This is why we got a bunch of stupid, corrupt thieves and idiots running this government.   The worst part is this crap has been getting steadily more stupid, corrupt, crookeder, and downright shittier for the general public.  I don't see it getting any better in my lifetime.

Enough said.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on October 08, 2020, 12:10:57 AM
I'll be honest, the only reason I think that this kid being a sociopath/bad person/criminal matters is that it makes him much less effective at his job which is advocating for and passing good legislation.

I think a lot of people genuinely think that the "character" of the person they are voting for is more important than what policies they will vote for and I find that completely insane.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sys on October 08, 2020, 12:24:55 AM
I think a lot of people genuinely think that the "character" of the person they are voting for is more important than what policies they will vote for and I find that completely insane.

i think the reverse is insane.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on October 08, 2020, 12:57:51 AM
I'll be honest, the only reason I think that this kid being a sociopath/bad person/criminal matters is that it makes him much less effective at his job which is advocating for and passing good legislation.

I think a lot of people genuinely think that the "character" of the person they are voting for is more important than what policies they will vote for and I find that completely insane.

The lack of trust and personal accountability is a big deal, especially given who our president is.

I do in general agree with you regarding past transgressions. However, specifically regarding this candidate, his age is important to consider. He clearly has an impulse problem which leads him to making poor decisions, at 20 years old, brain science tells us he's far from being done doing really stupid crap. The fact that he isn't ready to own it yet should tell us all that he is still prone to making similar mistakes.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on October 08, 2020, 08:11:18 AM
I think a lot of people genuinely think that the "character" of the person they are voting for is more important than what policies they will vote for and I find that completely insane.

i think the reverse is insane.

I mean only to the extent that it compromises the person's ability to get elected and/or their ability to do what I want them to.

Like if the worst Clinton crime family Q stuff was true about Hillary and she had a whole epstein island full of skeletons in her closet but she was passing medicare for all and such, then I don't understand preferring John McCain leading with dignity and honor and crushing poor people.

I get that there are shades here and the more compromised a person is, the more likely the house of cards is to come down, but to me that is the only consideration.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on October 08, 2020, 08:12:28 AM
I'll be honest, the only reason I think that this kid being a sociopath/bad person/criminal matters is that it makes him much less effective at his job which is advocating for and passing good legislation.

I think a lot of people genuinely think that the "character" of the person they are voting for is more important than what policies they will vote for and I find that completely insane.

The lack of trust and personal accountability is a big deal, especially given who our president is.

I do in general agree with you regarding past transgressions. However, specifically regarding this candidate, his age is important to consider. He clearly has an impulse problem which leads him to making poor decisions, at 20 years old, brain science tells us he's far from being done doing really stupid crap. The fact that he isn't ready to own it yet should tell us all that he is still prone to making similar mistakes.

Yes, to the extent that this makes him an unreliable vessel through which to implement my favored policies this is a big liability.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: 8manpick on October 08, 2020, 08:30:57 AM
Kat Kid is doing a really good job of making the reasonable conservative argument for voting for Trump, just in reverse.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on October 08, 2020, 09:06:52 AM
Kat Kid is doing a really good job of making the reasonable conservative argument for voting for Trump, just in reverse.
It's a tricky exercise when the policy choices also reflect poor "character".
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on October 08, 2020, 09:07:06 AM
Kat Kid is doing a really good job of making the reasonable conservative argument for voting for Trump, just in reverse.

They already all vote for him.  It is very logical.  The only absolute never Trumper types are

1) neo-con war crazy types like Jennifer Rubin or Bill Kristol
2) intelligence community types like Michael Hayden
3) bourgeoisie striver types that are offended by his bad manners (lots of pundits fall in this category) but these are also all over twitter as suburban wine mom/girl boss types and guys that work for McKinsey or Deloitte---- steve dave basically
4) a small number of Mormons or religious conservatives that are offended by his personal conduct
Title: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: steve dave on October 08, 2020, 09:25:11 AM
steve dave is ok with this


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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on October 08, 2020, 09:26:24 AM
5) steve dave


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you were already listed
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: steve dave on October 08, 2020, 09:26:38 AM
5) steve dave


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you were already listed
I’ll accept that


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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on October 08, 2020, 01:45:44 PM
I'm obsessed with the Aaron Coleman saga.  What will happen next!

Really, if he gets elected it won't matter much regardless.  Nobody will work with him.  He'll be on no important committees. And there's only so much (i.e. "nothing") a democrat from wyco with no friends can accomplish in the Kansas legislature.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sys on October 09, 2020, 09:04:04 PM
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: nicname on October 10, 2020, 12:16:05 AM

Accompanying Star article

https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article246347750.html
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on October 10, 2020, 09:21:24 AM
I’m shocked, SHOCKED! That gerrymandering is going on!
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Kat Kid on October 10, 2020, 09:24:03 AM
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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Trim on October 16, 2020, 10:34:38 PM
https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/melinda-henneberger/article246494440.html
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on October 16, 2020, 11:05:29 PM
What's his endgame here? Also it's impossible to think that a lot of people didn't know this kid is a despicable jackass, he seems completely incapable of controlling himself. Like he's never been told no in his life.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: cfbandyman on October 17, 2020, 07:25:07 AM
What's his endgame here? Also it's impossible to think that a lot of people didn't know this kid is a despicable jackass, he seems completely incapable of controlling himself. Like he's never been told no in his life.

trump?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sys on November 04, 2020, 08:30:55 PM
seems to be settling into public life.

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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: nicname on November 04, 2020, 08:38:12 PM
seems to be settling into public life.

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 :surprised:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 10:07:05 PM
While I'm all for upsetting the moderate apple cart, this ain't it.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on November 04, 2020, 10:23:56 PM
legitimate round of applause for kansas

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 10:36:20 PM
That's great.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MadCat on November 05, 2020, 10:52:44 AM
Agreed
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2020, 10:54:18 AM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on November 05, 2020, 12:18:19 PM
seems to be settling into public life.

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:lol:

I’m sure the gov is shaking in her boots, Aaron.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Trim on November 05, 2020, 11:21:14 PM
https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article246995927.html
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on November 06, 2020, 04:38:03 AM
https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article246995927.html

He's right about his removal for misconduct, I think that's a bad play for the dems anyway. Just meet with the kid, get him to calm the hell down and work on finding someone to primary him in 18 months. If he screws up before then, go ahead and remove him. If I'm a pub representative I'm not voting to get him out though.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sys on November 11, 2020, 03:43:58 PM
unironic applause.

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: steve dave on November 11, 2020, 03:46:21 PM
Yes, good bi-partisan effort here. Nice work KS.


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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Trim on November 11, 2020, 03:53:13 PM
Lol, that shirt.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on November 11, 2020, 04:13:42 PM
it'll be a disappointing end to this saga if he's removed, but i trust that he'll be back.

his shirts all appear to be very comically large.  part of his luxurious lifestyle, i presume.  no problem springing for that extra fabric for Rep. Coleman.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Trim on November 11, 2020, 04:17:15 PM
It's so big that it's almost naturally forming into a seinfeld puffy shirt.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on November 11, 2020, 04:35:50 PM
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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on November 11, 2020, 04:37:19 PM
You may not like it, but that's what high fashion looks like.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on November 11, 2020, 04:39:59 PM
I hope he whips old asses in Topeka
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 11, 2020, 04:43:40 PM
Lol, that shirt.
He's still growing it will fit in no time
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on November 11, 2020, 08:05:07 PM
I did not love the idea of politicians not letting him serve, he was fairly elected, and the will of the people should matter. I guarantee you that there are people serving who are as despicable as captain XXL dress shirt. In fact I'm certain there are members of the Kansas house who have broken the law while being an elected official.

The behavior of the Kansas dems is a bigger black eye than this idiot trash talking the governor.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Woogy on November 12, 2020, 09:04:51 AM
The behavior of the Kansas dems is a bigger black eye than this idiot trash talking the governor.

Not sure of your reference here, but from my viewpoint, who are the Kansas Dems?  In my locale, McPherson, not a single D on the ballot for any state or local race.  Which is a black eye of sorts.  Biden pulled in nearly 40% of the vote, Bollier performed similarly, and Barnett was substantially lower at 26%. 
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on November 12, 2020, 09:25:26 AM
The behavior of the Kansas dems is a bigger black eye than this idiot trash talking the governor.

Not sure of your reference here, but from my viewpoint, who are the Kansas Dems?  In my locale, McPherson, not a single D on the ballot for any state or local race.  Which is a black eye of sorts.  Biden pulled in nearly 40% of the vote, Bollier performed similarly, and Barnett was substantially lower at 26%.

I'm referring to the Kansas democratic party and its state reps who are trying to circumvent democracy by doing an end around the will of the voters in that district.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Woogy on November 12, 2020, 12:14:16 PM
Gotcha - Thx
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sys on January 04, 2021, 01:13:07 AM
plan still holding, but no mention of republican cooperation in the article.

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 04, 2021, 09:35:43 AM
It would be hypocritical for republicans to support removing this guy when they didn't support removing Trump.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on January 04, 2021, 09:45:09 AM
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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 04, 2021, 09:47:03 AM
He only got 66% of the vote when he was the only name on the ballot?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on January 04, 2021, 09:57:32 AM
He only got 66% of the vote when he was the only name on the ballot?

There was a write-in candidate running.

This is stupid, the democrats are being idiotic crybabies. They need to honor the will of the voters of that district.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: catastrophe on January 04, 2021, 10:05:48 AM
He only got 66% of the vote when he was the only name on the ballot?

There was a write-in candidate running.

This is stupid, the democrats are being idiotic crybabies. They need to honor the will of the voters of that district.
Based on my understanding that these allegations were all publicized before the vote, I have to agree. It’s a stain on the voters for sure, but I don’t see how you take the choice out of their hands just because their selection is unpalatable.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on January 04, 2021, 03:51:10 PM
Yeah that's how democracy works.  He won fair and square.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Gooch on January 04, 2021, 04:15:03 PM
Seat him, give him zero committee assignments, stick him in some closet as his office and wait for him to do or say something stupid (which he will) then expell him from the floor.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 04, 2021, 04:22:44 PM
Seat him, give him zero committee assignments, stick him in some closet as his office and wait for him to do or say something stupid (which he will) then expell him from the floor.

He is gonna creep out errrryone
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: wetwillie on January 04, 2021, 07:01:45 PM
How did Frownfelter lose to this dude in the primary?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on January 05, 2021, 07:28:36 AM
How did Frownfelter lose to this dude in the primary?
Coleman hustled his ass off is how
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: wetwillie on January 05, 2021, 07:48:28 AM
How did Frownfelter lose to this dude in the primary?
Coleman hustled his ass off is how

It’s what you like to see in politics, you just wish the challenger wasn’t a dirtbag human.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 05, 2021, 08:40:03 AM
Nobody bothered telling the media the kid was a dirtbag until after the primary. Anyone who would actually vote a 19 year old into public office deserves ridicule, regardless.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: steve dave on January 05, 2021, 08:58:02 AM
I’d vote a 19 year old into this level of public office if it was the right 19 yo.


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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 05, 2021, 11:20:03 AM
I’d vote a 19 year old into this level of public office if it was the right 19 yo.


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Like a total badass who drove a Trans Am and smoked cigs?  me too
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on January 05, 2021, 12:16:23 PM
I’d vote a 19 year old into this level of public office if it was the right 19 yo.


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Like a total badass who drove a Trans Am and smoked cigs?  me too
so Pissclams then?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 05, 2021, 12:19:08 PM
I’d vote a 19 year old into this level of public office if it was the right 19 yo.


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Like a total badass who drove a Trans Am and smoked cigs?  me too
so Pissclams then?

That was sort of my archetype yes
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on January 05, 2021, 12:20:48 PM
If collecting pelts is important to you, vote pclams
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bucket on January 05, 2021, 02:48:02 PM
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Institutional Control on January 05, 2021, 02:57:14 PM
I'm confused.

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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bucket on January 05, 2021, 03:03:42 PM
He's the 23rd Republican Senator to vocally oppose the Cruz/Hawley scheme.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 05, 2021, 03:06:24 PM
I'm confused.

?s=20
Hero. I'm putting my plans to move to Canada on hold. Hope he doesn't get assassinated by some QAnon nut for his trouble.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 05, 2021, 03:26:19 PM
Hero is a bit much. Maybe he should have also cared about his constitutional duties when he voted to not even have witnesses or evidence presented at the impeachment trial he was supposed to be a juror for.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bucket on January 05, 2021, 03:29:06 PM
Hero is a bit much. Maybe he should have also cared about his constitutional duties when he voted to not even have witnesses or evidence presented at the impeachment trial he was supposed to be a juror for.

It's a huge relief when you've had to live with the likes of Kobach, Pompeo, Jenkins, Brownback, etc.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: ChiComCat on January 05, 2021, 03:37:33 PM
The most positive thing I'd say about Moran is that we've plumbed the depths of his partisanship.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Institutional Control on January 05, 2021, 03:39:45 PM
He's the 23rd Republican Senator to vocally oppose the Cruz/Hawley scheme.

I was reading that backwards.  Sorry, Covid-brain.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 05, 2021, 03:49:48 PM
Hero is a bit much. Maybe he should have also cared about his constitutional duties when he voted to not even have witnesses or evidence presented at the impeachment trial he was supposed to be a juror for.

It's a huge relief when you've had to live with the likes of Kobach, Pompeo, Jenkins, Brownback, etc.
Susan Wagle, Phil Kline, Kathy Martin. I'm gonna :bracketmouse: this news.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 05, 2021, 03:52:29 PM
Moran - vocally opposes Cruz/Hawley scheme
Marshall - vocally supports Cruz/Hawley scheme


Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on January 05, 2021, 08:23:43 PM
Nobody bothered telling the media the kid was a dirtbag until after the primary. Anyone who would actually vote a 19 year old into public office deserves ridicule, regardless.

There were articles before the primary.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on January 06, 2021, 08:47:58 AM
Nobody bothered telling the media the kid was a dirtbag until after the primary. Anyone who would actually vote a 19 year old into public office deserves ridicule, regardless.

There were articles before the primary.
I don't think there were actually.  IIRC, the revelation about his revenge porn stuff came after the primary.

As of August 7, the only dirt the star had on him was that he made some mean comments about Herman Cain:

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Meanwhile, on the Kansas side of the metro, Democrat Aaron Coleman reacted with delight to prominent Republican Herman Cain’s death from COVID-19. And he told a former Kansas Republican lawmaker and talk show host that he’d “laugh and giggle when you get COVID and die.” Nonetheless, Coleman is winning his District 37 Kansas House primary by one vote. His lead, though still not secure, grew to 807-801 on Friday, according to the Kansas Secretary of State’s Office.

https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article244792632.html
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Trim on January 07, 2021, 11:36:34 PM
https://www.cjonline.com/story/news/politics/2021/01/07/rep-elect-aaron-coleman-had-been-accused-of-harassing-opponents-aide/6587464002/
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 22, 2021, 12:35:26 PM

To clarify, she refuses to GIVE the COVID vaccines. Coffey County had one of the first nursing homes in KS to get smashed by COVID.

https://fox4kc.com/news/nurses-in-coffey-county-refuse-to-give-covid-19-vaccine/ (https://fox4kc.com/news/nurses-in-coffey-county-refuse-to-give-covid-19-vaccine/)

NY Post has picked up the story...

https://nypost.com/2021/01/16/kansas-nurses-refuse-to-give-covid-19-vaccines/ (https://nypost.com/2021/01/16/kansas-nurses-refuse-to-give-covid-19-vaccines/)
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: CNS on January 22, 2021, 01:12:15 PM
A nurse that won't give a vaccine should be fired.  In a pandemic or not.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on January 22, 2021, 01:17:17 PM

To clarify, she refuses to GIVE the COVID vaccines. Coffey County had one of the first nursing homes in KS to get smashed by COVID.

https://fox4kc.com/news/nurses-in-coffey-county-refuse-to-give-covid-19-vaccine/ (https://fox4kc.com/news/nurses-in-coffey-county-refuse-to-give-covid-19-vaccine/)

NY Post has picked up the story...

https://nypost.com/2021/01/16/kansas-nurses-refuse-to-give-covid-19-vaccines/ (https://nypost.com/2021/01/16/kansas-nurses-refuse-to-give-covid-19-vaccines/)
Yeah feels pretty straightforward.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 22, 2021, 01:42:19 PM
A nurse that won't take a vaccine should also be fired. Same with anyone else in the health industry that has to wear a mask even when there is not a pandemic.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Cire on January 22, 2021, 01:47:26 PM
I have friends that work at st lukes plaza and shawnee mission med center.  not nurses that said that they were told that the vaccine would be mandatory for all employees when there's enough for everyone.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on January 22, 2021, 01:48:24 PM
fwiw, and wholly anecdotally, taking the second dose apparently sucks ass for a not insignificant amount of people.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: CNS on January 22, 2021, 02:13:36 PM
"sucks ass" seems to equal a day or two of feeling like you have a moderate flu, from the info I have heard.

To anyone who is concerned about that, specifically, "eff you!".
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Trim on January 22, 2021, 02:16:36 PM
I'm with CNS in fuckyouanon.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Cire on January 22, 2021, 05:14:29 PM
Anecdotally I know 5 people with 2 chips and the second chip was pud city


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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: treysolid on January 22, 2021, 07:52:15 PM
Sometimes, when my eyes are quickly scanning the thread page, I read this thread as "Another Round of Applesauce For Kansas"
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: dal9 on January 22, 2021, 11:30:34 PM
imagine going to get the vaccine and the nurse is like no,  but i would love to teach you how to breastfeed
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: passranch on January 23, 2021, 08:20:24 AM
Sometimes, when my eyes are quickly scanning the thread page, I read this thread as "Another Round of Applesauce For Kansas"

I see it as "Another Round of Appliances For Kansas"
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 23, 2021, 01:21:49 PM
imagine going to get the vaccine and the nurse is like no,  but i would love to teach you how to breastfeed
:lol:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Institutional Control on March 16, 2021, 12:12:14 PM
https://fox4kc.com/news/kansas-senate-majority-leader-jailed-for-dui-fleeing-police/?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

TOPEKA, Kan. – Kansas Senate Majority Leader Gene Suellentrop was booked into the Shawnee County Jail Tuesday morning for a series of crimes, including driving under the influence.

Public booking information shows he was jailed early this morning, March 16 at 3:55 a.m.

Police listed other infractions as well, including fleeing from law enforcement, speeding and improperly crossing on a divided highway.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: mocat on March 16, 2021, 12:17:20 PM
MFer must be terrified of tornadoes
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 16, 2021, 02:47:07 PM
MFer must be terrified of tornadoes

and going to jail for DUI
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Trim on April 26, 2021, 11:58:40 PM
https://www.kansas.com/news/local/education/article250897684.html
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Chingon on May 01, 2021, 01:45:14 PM
https://www.npr.org/2021/04/29/992097962/kris-kobach-former-trump-adviser-announces-run-for-kansas-attorney-general

He's back baby.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: KST8FAN on May 01, 2021, 02:15:54 PM
https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article251069219.html


Tom

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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: ben ji on May 01, 2021, 06:41:07 PM
https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article251069219.html


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My sister is a lobbyist in Topeka and I asked her about this guy. Her response

"Yeah.... he's like legit off his meds needs professional help crazy. His speeches have been getting more bizarre by the week..."
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sys on May 02, 2021, 12:20:28 AM
jesus.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Cire on May 02, 2021, 06:20:14 AM
https://www.facebook.com/107900438/posts/10100204915036500/?d=n


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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Cire on May 02, 2021, 06:22:21 AM
https://www.facebook.com/390332644747737/posts/1192905067823820/?d=n


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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 02, 2021, 01:19:08 PM
He's clearly insane, but I have a very hard time believing it's possible for his district to elect someone better.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Cire on May 02, 2021, 09:39:07 PM
Ho

Lee

crap


https://www.kctv5.com/news/kansas-house-rep-mark-samsel-issues-statement-following-battery-allegations/article_64eb30e4-aa2b-11eb-a874-f7361933d83c.html


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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Cire on May 02, 2021, 09:50:55 PM
Here’s the video. Pretty disturbing

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article251112569.html?fbclid=IwAR3icSFKdfrpDNeiFDaCQl1RabMROsxHXiJoYvPvC-xP9w_fCIRqItXoX4k


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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: puniraptor on May 03, 2021, 12:15:16 AM
the frank drop gave me ASMR

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 03, 2021, 09:12:47 AM
Here’s the video. Pretty disturbing

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article251112569.html?fbclid=IwAR3icSFKdfrpDNeiFDaCQl1RabMROsxHXiJoYvPvC-xP9w_fCIRqItXoX4k


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He should run for governor.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on May 03, 2021, 09:14:54 AM
He made some good points
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on May 03, 2021, 09:50:00 AM
He made some good points
Honestly in the midst of the crazy he seems ok for a modern republican. Like thinking the election was legitimate is sadly a radical view for that party.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 03, 2021, 10:33:05 AM
While the election stuff needs to die, can the mega libs please admit that had Trump won.  Not only would cities have burned, but the legitimacy of the election would have been called into question on top of an onslaught of challenges.  Just like Libs have done on every Pub win for the past 2 decades plus (followed by an immediate call for impeachment within months)

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on May 03, 2021, 11:58:21 AM
fantastic non-sequitur dax
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 03, 2021, 02:40:58 PM
Thanks Capt. Mansplainer

Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: steve dave on May 03, 2021, 09:33:15 PM
Holy crap this statement

https://t.co/VQiRsSHjT9


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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Spracne on May 03, 2021, 10:13:53 PM
Can I get a tl;dr? Dude's obviously not represented by competent counsel.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 03, 2021, 11:20:51 PM
Is RoyalsWild from Wellsville?
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 04, 2021, 01:38:27 PM
big maga energy
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: LickNeckey on May 04, 2021, 01:45:59 PM
Can I get a tl;dr? Dude's obviously not represented by competent counsel.

best part is that i think he is a lawyer

KU grad i believe
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Cire on May 04, 2021, 01:52:33 PM
Yes,

Yes
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 04, 2021, 02:10:17 PM
The best part was when he concluded his statement with "Let's go Royals! clap, clap, clap clap clap."
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on May 04, 2021, 02:23:10 PM
Can I get a tl;dr? Dude's obviously not represented by competent counsel.

best part is that i think he is a lawyer

KU grad i believe

So yeah, a HS friend who went to KU was friends with him and occasionally shared FB posts from him. Looks like Samsel's posts are gone but the comment from my friend is still there. (:lol:)

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A good read for fans at all levels.  Mark is a great mentor for kids...and Kansas State Rep for us big kids.  And one of the most respected officials in the state.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 04, 2021, 02:29:10 PM
He probably is one of the better legislators we've got. At least when he isn't assaulting kids he is.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on May 04, 2021, 02:31:39 PM
just look at this knob

(https://i.imgur.com/b4ZjXA5.png)
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on May 04, 2021, 03:23:35 PM
Those shoes! Holy eff!
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on May 04, 2021, 07:06:00 PM
Those shoes are exactly what I see when I imagine what a ku fan wears
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on May 04, 2021, 09:47:24 PM
Also no shade but what's going on with Claws's shoes as well? Of course they are far from the worst in the shot but players get lots of free shoes from Nike.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 05, 2021, 09:45:05 AM
Also no shade but what's going on with Claws's shoes as well? Of course they are far from the worst in the shot but players get lots of free shoes from Nike.

Everyone has a pair of comfortable shoes that like total ass
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on May 05, 2021, 09:52:13 AM
Also no shade but what's going on with Claws's shoes as well? Of course they are far from the worst in the shot but players get lots of free shoes from Nike.

yeah I noticed this too. kinda sad really
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Cire on May 19, 2021, 08:39:48 PM
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Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MadCat on May 20, 2021, 08:59:17 AM
Cancel culture
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on May 20, 2021, 10:04:30 AM
Good stuff, 41 action news.  I wonder what the third party comments were.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: bucket on May 20, 2021, 10:10:08 AM
Good stuff, 41 action news.  I wonder what the third party comments were.

The article said medical information. I assumed that was anti-vax stuff  :dunno:
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: DQ12 on May 20, 2021, 10:19:26 AM
Good stuff, 41 action news.  I wonder what the third party comments were.

The article said medical information. I assumed that was anti-vax stuff  :dunno:
i'm sure, but like, what did they say? 
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 20, 2021, 10:39:05 AM
Good stuff, 41 action news.  I wonder what the third party comments were.

The article said medical information. I assumed that was anti-vax stuff  :dunno:
i'm sure, but like, what did they say?

The vaccine isn't safe, it is untested, it is the mark of the beast and we definitely shouldn't share it with poor countries who are begging for it
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on May 20, 2021, 12:23:20 PM
WTF is youtube doing with that? Bizarre. I can see youtube videos filled with wild, inaccurate information, that certainly isn't a standard for removal.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: star seed 7 on May 20, 2021, 12:56:17 PM
Pretty much all social media type businesses will pull covid misinformation
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: SkinnyBenny on May 20, 2021, 02:07:35 PM
As they should. Covid misinformation and vaccine conspiracies literally have deadly consequences.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 20, 2021, 02:52:58 PM
lol the comments were that covid isn't contagious and masks cause cancer.  maga
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: CNS on May 20, 2021, 04:38:12 PM
I have a customer who said he was going to that.  He told me that this is all much less than a flu and the real danger is what we have done to the kids' immune systems by not introducing them to the same level of everyone else's funk as we do every other year. 

So, this guy believes in the actuality of how an immune system works, but not that a virus is a real thing or the studies associated with it. 
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 20, 2021, 05:01:48 PM
I have a customer who said he was going to that.  He told me that this is all much less than a flu and the real danger is what we have done to the kids' immune systems by not introducing them to the same level of everyone else's funk as we do every other year. 

So, this guy believes in the actuality of how an immune system works, but not that a virus is a real thing or the studies associated with it.

and apparently he believes that masks absolutely work thus depriving kids of the exposure.  That's a pretty thin line to walk.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 20, 2021, 05:10:48 PM
Any belief will stand up to scrutiny as long as you never apply any scrutiny to it.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 20, 2021, 05:20:40 PM
like, claiming that the masks are stopping the ordinary bugs from challenging the immune system but then saying they don't stop covid is just so stupid.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: michigancat on May 20, 2021, 06:14:32 PM
like, claiming that the masks are stopping the ordinary bugs from challenging the immune system but then saying they don't stop covid is just so stupid.
I think the claim is Covid isn't real or the damage from Covid is less than damage from kids not getting such as much.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 21, 2021, 12:06:37 PM
like, claiming that the masks are stopping the ordinary bugs from challenging the immune system but then saying they don't stop covid is just so stupid.
I think the claim is Covid isn't real or the damage from Covid is less than damage from kids not getting such as much.

that's a bit too consistent for a maga talking point.
Title: Re: Another Round Of Applause For Kansas
Post by: MakeItRain on May 21, 2021, 04:27:30 PM
As they should. Covid misinformation and vaccine conspiracies literally have deadly consequences.

Context is important. Pulling the entire video because of a few crazy public comments within the video is thought policing. What's next pulling videos of television station covering an anti-vax rally? Removing this video was a mistake that some underpaid lakey made