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Title: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: TheHamburglar on April 10, 2013, 10:16:06 AM

eff

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: OK_Cat on April 10, 2013, 10:16:38 AM

are you rough ridin' me

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: MakeItRain on April 10, 2013, 10:17:39 AM

OH BOY

K-State Announces Extension for oscar Weber

The Big 12 Coach of the Year signed a contract extension through 2018

   Reigning Big 12 Coach of the Year oscar Weber has signed a contract extension through the 2017-18 season.
 
Reigning Big 12 Coach of the Year oscar Weber has signed a contract extension through the 2017-18 season.
 
 

April 10, 2013

Contract Extension in PDF Format
*Note: Contract includes signatures of all parties except President Schulz, who has approved the contract but is traveling and will formally sign upon his return.

MANHATTAN, Kan. – Director of Athletics John Currie announced today that Big 12 Coach of the Year oscar Weber has a signed a contract extension through the 2018 academic year to continue his leadership of the Kansas State men’s basketball program.

The agreement adds one year to his current contract, securing Weber’s services through June 30, 2018.  Weber’s annual salary will be $1.75 million for the 2013-14 season, which represents a $250,000 raise, and will increase by $100,000 for each remaining year per his original 5-year contract ($1.85 million in 2014-15, $1.95 million in 2015-16, $2.05 million in 2016-17 and $2.15 million in 2017-18).  The extension was unanimously approved by the
K-State Athletics, Inc., Board of Directors.

“Our men’s basketball program, from top to bottom, has made continued improvement under Coach Weber and his staff since their arrival last April,” said Currie. “From our first conference championship in 36 seasons to a record-number of players on the Big 12 Commissioner’s Academic Honor Roll, I am extremely excited about the forward trajectory of our program under his leadership.”

Hired on March 31, 2012 as the 24th head coach in school history, Weber guided Kansas State to one of its best seasons by a first-year head coach, as the Wildcats posted a 27-8 overall record and captured a share of their first conference title since 1977 with a 14-4 Big 12 mark.  He is just the third first-year head coach to win the Big 12 regular season since the league’s inception in 1997, while his 27 wins are the third-most by a rookie head coach in conference history.  The team advanced to the NCAA Tournament for the 27th time, including a school-record tying fourth consecutive season, and received its third-highest seed – No. 4 in the West Regional – since the NCAA began seeding teams in 1979.

“My family and I couldn’t be more thrilled with our decision to come to K-State,” said Weber.  “It has been a magical year in our athletic department that started with the success of our football team under Coach Snyder’s leadership and our team was able to seize that momentum and win our first conference title in nearly four decades. Whenever you have success, it is a direct reflection of your team and staff and I have said all along we had great chemistry between our players and staff all year.  I’m so proud to be associated with this group of players and coaches and I can’t thank them enough for their hard work and sacrifice this season.”

Weber’s 27 wins in 2012-13 were the second-most in a single season in K-State history and just the fifth 25-win season overall, while the 14 conference wins tie the 1958-59 team for the most in school history.  The league title is the 20th overall and the 18th won in the regular season and the first since winning the Big Eight Championship in 1977.  The Wildcats were ranked for 13 consecutive weeks to end the season, including two weeks in the Top 10.

For his efforts, Weber was selected as the Big 12 Coach of the Year by the league coaches and The Associated Press, while he was named the U.S. Basketball Writers Association (USBWA) and National Association of Basketball Coaches (NABC) District Coach of the Year.  It was his third league Coach of the Year accolade in his career after winning the honor in the Missouri Valley in 2002-03 and the Big Ten in 2004-05.  He was also a finalist for the 2013 Jim Phelan National Coach of the Year and Skip Prosser Man of the Year awards.

“We’re all pleased with the success of our season, but not satisfied by how it ended,” said Weber.  “Changing that outcome starts this summer with our player development and our recruiting.  Having this type of commitment from John and President Schulz ensures longevity, which is a frequent question from potential recruits and their parents.  I’m so appreciative of the confidence that they have in me and our staff to continuing to build upon what was accomplished in 2012-13.”

K-State led the Big 12 in five statistical categories, including scoring defense (60.4 ppg.), turnover margin (+2.6), assist-to-turnover ratio (1.4) and offensive rebounds (13.4), while the squad ranked among the Top 5 in assists (15.9, 2nd), 3-point field goals (6.8, 3rd), 3-point field goal percentage (36.2, 3rd), rebounding margin (+3.3, 3rd) and steals (7.1, 4th).  The team tied or set three single-season records in 2012-13, including wins in Bramlage Coliseum (16), assists (557) and assist-to-turnover ratio (1.4), and drew the second-most fans to its home schedule with 225,503 filtering through the turnstiles at Bramlage Coliseum and the Sprint Center.

The Wildcats also excelled off the basketball court under Weber’s leadership, as a program-best eight players, including starters Rodney McGruder, Angel Rodriguez, Shane Southwell and Will Spradling, were named to the Fall Big 12 Commissioner’s Academic Honor Roll.  In addition, McGruder (first team) and Spradling (second team) were selected to the Academic All-Big 12 Team.  McGruder was the lone Big 12 men’s basketball student-athlete to earn both All-Big 12 First Team honors in both academics and athletics.  All three seniors – Jordan Henriquez, Martavious Irving and McGruder – along with junior Omari Lawrence are set to graduate from K-State this May.

“We’re all excited about the direction of the program under Coach Weber,” said rising junior and 2013 All-Big 12 Second Team selection Angel Rodriguez.  “We know that we are losing some really good players to graduation, but we know that with all the players coming back - plus the new recruits coming in - we are capable of doing great things next season and beyond.  We are excited about the challenge of building on our Big 12 Championship.”

Weber, 56, has compiled a 340-163 (.676) in his 15 seasons as a head coach, which includes stints at Southern Illinois (1998-2003) and Illinois (2003-11).  His .676 winning percentage ranks 28th among active Division I head coaches.  He has won 20 or more games in all but four of his 15 campaigns, averaging 22.7 victories a season in his head coaching career.

Weber’s teams have now participated in postseason play in 11 of his 15 seasons, including nine NCAA Tournament appearances.  His teams have combined to win six conference regular season and tournament championships, including the 2002 and 2003 Missouri Valley Conference, 2004 and 2005 Big Ten Conference and 2013 Big 12 regular season titles.

The Wildcats return nine lettermen, including All-Big 12 selections Angel Rodriguez and Shane Southwell, in 2013-14.  The team is receiving mention in several early preseason polls.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: OK_Cat on April 10, 2013, 10:18:49 AM

 :dubious:

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: scottwildcat on April 10, 2013, 10:19:31 AM

 :flush: x 10

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Unruly on April 10, 2013, 10:22:13 AM

:clac:

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: steve dave on April 10, 2013, 10:22:34 AM

CONGRATULATIONS

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 10, 2013, 10:24:09 AM

 :facepalm:

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Skipper44 on April 10, 2013, 10:24:16 AM

meh, the only way oscar is out of here sooner rather than later is if we get a new AD that wants his own guy.  I don't recall what the buyout terms of BW's contract are but I would hope all the new tv money should make that a non factor.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: MakeItRain on April 10, 2013, 10:25:59 AM

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2012-13/misc_non_event/Contract.pdf

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: puniraptor on April 10, 2013, 10:26:14 AM

Frank got an extension RIGHT BEFORE CURRIE FRANKED HIM!!!

the cycle continues, sorry oscar it was fun best of luck to you!

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: pissclams on April 10, 2013, 10:29:44 AM

what does "good enough" mean?  we just won the big 12.  you're trying to hard.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: OK_Cat on April 10, 2013, 10:30:07 AM

Quote from: pissclams on April 10, 2013, 10:29:44 AM

what does "good enough" mean?  we just won the big 12.  you're trying to hard.

ok kim carnes

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: TheHamburglar on April 10, 2013, 10:30:40 AM

Nevermind. Looks like this was a function of the original contract. The team met incentives to trigger this in the original.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 10, 2013, 10:31:32 AM

Quote from: puniraptor on April 10, 2013, 10:26:14 AM

Frank got an extension RIGHT BEFORE CURRIE FRANKED HIM!!!

the cycle continues, sorry oscar it was fun best of luck to you!

At least Currie is a master at the force out.
Will not have to fire Brucey if he is sucky.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Berries and Cream on April 10, 2013, 10:31:43 AM

Part of his previous contract was a guaranteed extension to be negotiated by May 2014 if he won Big 12 Coach of the Year.

All things considered, extending only one season is about as much as we could have hoped for...

And at least Angel is staying?

We're doomed.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: kso_FAN on April 10, 2013, 10:32:40 AM

Quote from: Berries and Cream on April 10, 2013, 10:31:43 AM

Part of his previous contract was a guaranteed extension to be negotiated by May 2014 if he won Big 12 Coach of the Year.

So oscar has a good agent.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: CNS on April 10, 2013, 10:33:40 AM

Hopefully his buyout at least got cut in half or something. 

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: owl borland on April 10, 2013, 10:35:52 AM

when are you knuckleheads going to finally accept that oscar is our coach, and instead of hoping for him to fail, be optimistic. Who knows, maybe in 15 years we'll be watching LHCBW coaching on oscar Weber Court in Bramlage Coliseum. I'M ALL IN!

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Mr Bread on April 10, 2013, 10:38:19 AM

eff he is getting paid well all things considered.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: OK_Cat on April 10, 2013, 10:39:20 AM

Quote from: owl borland on April 10, 2013, 10:35:52 AM

when are you knuckleheads going to finally accept that oscar is our coach, and instead of hoping for him to fail, be optimistic. Who knows, maybe in 15 years we'll be watching LHCBW coaching on oscar Weber Court in Bramlage Coliseum. I'M ALL IN!

terrible sock.  just terrible.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: MakeItRain on April 10, 2013, 10:40:09 AM

Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 10, 2013, 10:32:40 AM

Quote from: Berries and Cream on April 10, 2013, 10:31:43 AM

Part of his previous contract was a guaranteed extension to be negotiated by May 2014 if he won Big 12 Coach of the Year.

So oscar has a good agent.

Yeah never mind nothing to see here

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: steve dave on April 10, 2013, 10:40:21 AM

Quote from: owl borland on April 10, 2013, 10:35:52 AM

when are you knuckleheads going to finally accept that oscar is our coach, and instead of hoping for him to fail, be optimistic. Who knows, maybe in 15 years we'll be watching LHCBW coaching on oscar Weber Court in Bramlage Coliseum. I'M ALL IN!

I think everyone has accepted that he is currently the KState coach. Nobody (well, mostly nobody) hopes he fails, lots of people just think he will.

Title: Re: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: kitten_mittons on April 10, 2013, 10:40:39 AM

Quote from: owl borland on April 10, 2013, 10:35:52 AM

when are you knuckleheads going to finally accept that oscar is our coach, and instead of hoping for him to fail, be optimistic. Who knows, maybe in 15 years we'll be watching LHCBW coaching on oscar Weber Court in Bramlage Coliseum. I'M ALL IN!

No one is rooting for him to fail, but the smart money is on him doing so.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Mr Bread on April 10, 2013, 10:41:04 AM

Quote from: OK Cat on April 10, 2013, 10:39:20 AM

Quote from: owl borland on April 10, 2013, 10:35:52 AM

when are you knuckleheads going to finally accept that oscar is our coach, and instead of hoping for him to fail, be optimistic. Who knows, maybe in 15 years we'll be watching LHCBW coaching on oscar Weber Court in Bramlage Coliseum. I'M ALL IN!

terrible sock.  just terrible.

I like the name though.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: pissclams on April 10, 2013, 10:41:56 AM

oscar's agent laid it on the line and now king oscar gets to enjoy the good life. 

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: OK_Cat on April 10, 2013, 10:42:42 AM

Quote from: MakeItRain on April 10, 2013, 10:40:09 AM

Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 10, 2013, 10:32:40 AM

Quote from: Berries and Cream on April 10, 2013, 10:31:43 AM

Part of his previous contract was a guaranteed extension to be negotiated by May 2014 if he won Big 12 Coach of the Year.

So oscar has a good agent.

Yeah never mind nothing to see here

meh, we can still hate currie for agreeing to the contract.  i could probably have been coach of the year with the returning players and weak league.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: 'taterblast on April 10, 2013, 10:44:39 AM

i want to say this doesn't mean anything but i can't. we are guaranteed oscar through AT LEAST 2016. it's going to suck for all the dudes who act miserable about him all the time.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: michigancat on April 10, 2013, 10:45:11 AM

this seems pretty reasonable. the new salary definitely isn't outlandish, but talk about falling upward. My goodness.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: pissclams on April 10, 2013, 10:46:12 AM

Quote from: michigancat on April 10, 2013, 10:45:11 AM

this seems pretty reasonable. the new salary definitely isn't outlandish, but talk about falling upward. My goodness.

he didn't fall anywhere

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: lopakman on April 10, 2013, 10:46:51 AM

Quote from: Skipper44 on April 10, 2013, 10:24:16 AM

meh, the only way oscar is out of here sooner rather than later is if we get a new AD that wants his own guy.  I don't recall what the buyout terms of BW's contract are but I would hope all the new tv money should make that a non factor.

If Currie is smart (which he isn't) he'd make the buyout of oscar's contract about five dollars.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: kslim on April 10, 2013, 10:48:53 AM

guys we are ksu, we dont care about money if anything this shows other coaches around the country that we will pay you even if you get knocked out by rough ridin' la salle in the first round. It shows loyalty

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Institutional Control on April 10, 2013, 10:53:45 AM

Another year of Big 12 championships. Nice.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: michigancat on April 10, 2013, 11:01:59 AM

Quote from: pissclams on April 10, 2013, 10:46:12 AM

Quote from: michigancat on April 10, 2013, 10:45:11 AM

this seems pretty reasonable. the new salary definitely isn't outlandish, but talk about falling upward. My goodness.

he didn't fall anywhere

he didn't get fired about 13 months ago?

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: BWebbs0 on April 10, 2013, 11:02:45 AM

Quote from: michigancat on April 10, 2013, 10:45:11 AM

this seems pretty reasonable. the new salary definitely isn't outlandish, but talk about falling upward. My goodness.

El Oh El.

This contract extension is dumb. Granted, Weber did win a share of the Big 12 title, but he also got swept by KU and we lost in the first round. Are other schools really clawing to get Weber right now? I mean that's why you give contract extensions right? I would think his salary incentive of winning the Big 12 conference would suffice.

If this were any other coach I'd be jazzed. But this is oscar Weber. Illinois gave him a fat raise/extension after being NCAA Title Runner-up, and that buyout was ridiculous.

I just don't see the reason to give the guy an extension. I'd like to meet oscar's agent, he is amazing.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 10, 2013, 11:03:08 AM

Congrats guys, we're like top 25 in coaching salaries now!  :excited:

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Mr Bread on April 10, 2013, 11:04:40 AM

Quote from: BWebbs0 on April 10, 2013, 11:02:45 AM

Quote from: michigancat on April 10, 2013, 10:45:11 AM

this seems pretty reasonable. the new salary definitely isn't outlandish, but talk about falling upward. My goodness.

El Oh El.

This contract extension is dumb. Granted, Weber did win a share of the Big 12 title, but he also got swept by KU and we lost in the first round. Are other schools really clawing to get Weber right now? I mean that's why you give contract extensions right? I would think his salary incentive of winning the Big 12 conference would suffice.

If this were any other coach I'd be jazzed. But this is oscar Weber. Illinois gave him a fat raise/extension after being NCAA Title Runner-up, and that buyout was ridiculous.

I just don't see the reason to give the guy an extension. I'd like to meet oscar's agent, he is amazing.

If you've ever met oscar Weber then you've met his agent.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: CHONGS on April 10, 2013, 11:06:48 AM

Quote from: michigancat on April 10, 2013, 11:01:59 AM

Quote from: pissclams on April 10, 2013, 10:46:12 AM

Quote from: michigancat on April 10, 2013, 10:45:11 AM

this seems pretty reasonable. the new salary definitely isn't outlandish, but talk about falling upward. My goodness.

he didn't fall anywhere

he didn't get fired about 13 months ago?

WAY TO LAY IT ON THE LINE!

:D

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: jasn88cubs on April 10, 2013, 11:07:56 AM

wow...sorry guys

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on April 10, 2013, 11:08:26 AM

FUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: GCJayhawker on April 10, 2013, 11:10:24 AM

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Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Pete on April 10, 2013, 11:10:42 AM

Quote

“Our men’s basketball program, from top to bottom, has made continued improvement under Coach Weber and his staff since their arrival last April,” said Currie.

Glad that rough ridin' jackass Currie said this now, because he won't be able to say it again.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 10, 2013, 11:12:16 AM

This is a good thing FWIW.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 10, 2013, 11:15:36 AM

When I saw the release I knew when I came here I would once again see that some on goEMAW don't get, have never gotten and will likely never get how this thing works.

Sad

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: CHONGS on April 10, 2013, 11:18:42 AM

money comes and money goes
water falls to the lowest level
and ice expands as it freezes
thirst thirst thirst
momma feed me!

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: chum1 on April 10, 2013, 11:26:46 AM

It's too early to judge, but this meltdown isn't as hilarious as I'd hoped.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: scottwildcat on April 10, 2013, 11:28:38 AM

Quote from: chum1 on April 10, 2013, 11:26:46 AM

It's too early to judge, but this meltdown isn't as hilarious as I'd hoped.

I think it is because this was built into his contract.

If ole JC came out and gave him a two year extension just because, then the meltdown would be crazy.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: kslim on April 10, 2013, 11:30:22 AM

Quote from: chum1 on April 10, 2013, 11:26:46 AM

It's too early to judge, but this meltdown isn't as hilarious as I'd hoped.

i will meltdown when he is 5th in the league with his own players and doesnt get canned

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: CNS on April 10, 2013, 11:31:38 AM

Quote from: kslimlb3 on April 10, 2013, 11:30:22 AM

Quote from: chum1 on April 10, 2013, 11:26:46 AM

It's too early to judge, but this meltdown isn't as hilarious as I'd hoped.

i will meltdown when he is 5th in the league with his own players and doesnt get canned

What automatically and contractually kicks in if that happens? 

Contracts with automatic extensions should be balanced with automatic penalties too when coaches are hired after doing shitty elsewhere.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: kslim on April 10, 2013, 11:33:02 AM

Quote from: CNS Casey on April 10, 2013, 11:31:38 AM

Quote from: kslimlb3 on April 10, 2013, 11:30:22 AM

Quote from: chum1 on April 10, 2013, 11:26:46 AM

It's too early to judge, but this meltdown isn't as hilarious as I'd hoped.

i will meltdown when he is 5th in the league with his own players and doesnt get canned

What automatically and contractually kicks in if that happens? 

Contracts with automatic extensions should be balanced with automatic penalties too when coaches are hired after doing shitty elsewhere.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.unitrends.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F06%2Ftorches-and-pitchforks.jpg&hash=44b0014d51a8ea93423661afcd0ef01395427b55)

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Super PurpleCat on April 10, 2013, 11:33:38 AM

Nothing but more Titletowns, amirite?

 :dance:

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: CNS on April 10, 2013, 11:34:14 AM

Quote from: Super PurpleCat on April 10, 2013, 11:33:38 AM

Nothing but more Titletowns, amirite?

 :dance:

Hope so.  :dunno:

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: owl borland on April 10, 2013, 11:36:34 AM

Quote from: kslimlb3 on April 10, 2013, 11:30:22 AM

Quote from: chum1 on April 10, 2013, 11:26:46 AM

It's too early to judge, but this meltdown isn't as hilarious as I'd hoped.

i will meltdown when he is 5th in the league with his own players and doesnt get canned

Frank finished 5th in the league last year... just sayin

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: kslim on April 10, 2013, 11:38:13 AM

Quote from: owl borland on April 10, 2013, 11:36:34 AM

Quote from: kslimlb3 on April 10, 2013, 11:30:22 AM

Quote from: chum1 on April 10, 2013, 11:26:46 AM

It's too early to judge, but this meltdown isn't as hilarious as I'd hoped.

i will meltdown when he is 5th in the league with his own players and doesnt get canned

Frank finished 5th in the league last year... just sayin

the league wasnt dog crap last season...just sayin

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: kso_FAN on April 10, 2013, 11:41:10 AM

Nobody is really surprised by this though, right?

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 10, 2013, 11:41:45 AM

Quote from: kslimlb3 on April 10, 2013, 11:38:13 AM

Quote from: owl borland on April 10, 2013, 11:36:34 AM

Quote from: kslimlb3 on April 10, 2013, 11:30:22 AM

Quote from: chum1 on April 10, 2013, 11:26:46 AM

It's too early to judge, but this meltdown isn't as hilarious as I'd hoped.

i will meltdown when he is 5th in the league with his own players and doesnt get canned

Frank finished 5th in the league last year... just sayin

the league wasnt dog crap last season...just sayin

The "same team as last year (minus Jam Sam)" was improved by just about every measure -- except for winning one NCAA game -- this year over last year ... just sayin.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: owl borland on April 10, 2013, 11:43:42 AM

Quote from: kslimlb3 on April 10, 2013, 11:38:13 AM

Quote from: owl borland on April 10, 2013, 11:36:34 AM

Quote from: kslimlb3 on April 10, 2013, 11:30:22 AM

Quote from: chum1 on April 10, 2013, 11:26:46 AM

It's too early to judge, but this meltdown isn't as hilarious as I'd hoped.

i will meltdown when he is 5th in the league with his own players and doesnt get canned

Frank finished 5th in the league last year... just sayin

the league wasnt dog crap last season...just sayin

so you already know the league will be dog crap in 3-4 years when all of Frank's players will be gone?

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Mr Bread on April 10, 2013, 11:46:28 AM

easy owl borland...easy

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: BWebbs0 on April 10, 2013, 11:47:17 AM

Quote from: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 10, 2013, 11:41:45 AM

Quote from: kslimlb3 on April 10, 2013, 11:38:13 AM

Quote from: owl borland on April 10, 2013, 11:36:34 AM

Quote from: kslimlb3 on April 10, 2013, 11:30:22 AM

Quote from: chum1 on April 10, 2013, 11:26:46 AM

It's too early to judge, but this meltdown isn't as hilarious as I'd hoped.

i will meltdown when he is 5th in the league with his own players and doesnt get canned

Frank finished 5th in the league last year... just sayin

the league wasnt dog crap last season...just sayin

The "same team as last year (minus Jam Sam)" was improved by just about every measure -- except for winning one NCAA game -- this year over last year ... just sayin.

Kind of a big deal.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 10, 2013, 11:48:56 AM

Getting to the Round of 32 means more to you than a league championship?  Huh.  I'm the opposite.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: CNS on April 10, 2013, 11:50:06 AM

Quote from: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 10, 2013, 11:48:56 AM

Getting to the Round of 32 means more to you than a league championship?  Huh.  I'm the opposite.

Doing the latter makes you a failure if you can't do the former.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 10, 2013, 11:51:29 AM

Quote from: CNS Casey on April 10, 2013, 11:50:06 AM

Quote from: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 10, 2013, 11:48:56 AM

Getting to the Round of 32 means more to you than a league championship?  Huh.  I'm the opposite.

Doing the latter makes you a failure if you can't do the former.

But finishing 5th in the conference and getting to the Round of 32 is just fine?   :dunno:

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: CNS on April 10, 2013, 11:51:53 AM

Quote from: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 10, 2013, 11:51:29 AM

Quote from: CNS Casey on April 10, 2013, 11:50:06 AM

Quote from: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 10, 2013, 11:48:56 AM

Getting to the Round of 32 means more to you than a league championship?  Huh.  I'm the opposite.

Doing the latter makes you a failure if you can't do the former.

But finishing 5th in the conference and getting to the Round of 32 is just fine?   :dunno:

Peaking at the right time. 

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 10, 2013, 11:52:53 AM

Buy high, sell low!

No reason to wait until May 2014, none at all....

Title: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: ChiComCat on April 10, 2013, 12:13:42 PM

Quote from: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 10, 2013, 11:48:56 AM

Getting to the Round of 32 means more to you than a league championship?  Huh.  I'm the opposite.

If I thought the way he won a league championship was repeatable, I would agree with you. Because I don't think 14-4 will win a league championship again in his tenure, I would rather he not underachieve in the tournament.

All that said, the extension really doesn't surprise or concern me.  It's a rare coach that leaves a school because his contract wasn't renewed and I can't imagine the buyout was changed drastically.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: ksupamplemousse on April 10, 2013, 12:18:07 PM

Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats on April 10, 2013, 11:52:53 AM

Buy high, sell low!

No reason to wait until May 2014, none at all....

Well, if it's in the contract, then they might as well do it now after a moderately successful season. They would look pretty dumb extending his contract after a trip to the NIT, even if it was mandatory.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: kso_FAN on April 10, 2013, 12:24:06 PM

Not winning a game in the NCAAs was VERY disappointing. And it should be.

But it doesn't discount a conference title to me. I don't care if it was shared or if the league was down, it hasn't been done since I was 2 years old. Winning AQ leagues is still hard to do and is a significant accomplishment. Trying to discount it is dumb. JMHO.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: puniraptor on April 10, 2013, 12:24:51 PM

Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 10, 2013, 12:24:06 PM

Not winning a game in the NCAAs was VERY disappointing. And it should be.

But it doesn't discount a conference title to me. I don't care if it was shared or if the league was down, it hasn't been done since I was 2 years old. Winning AQ leagues is still hard to do and is a significant accomplishment. Trying to discount it is dumb. JMHO.

I'm not gonna let ANYTHING discount my new CHAMPS shirts  :bball:

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Pete on April 10, 2013, 12:27:42 PM

Everyone just stop.

The only reasonable objection to oscar Weber is the same objection that most of us had when he was hired....that he'll merely repeat his performance at Illinois.

The horrible paradox is that we have to give him time in order to PROVE that we were right about him.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Panjandrum on April 10, 2013, 12:28:02 PM

Quote from: ksu_FAN on April 10, 2013, 11:41:10 AM

Nobody is really surprised by this though, right?

God, I hope not.

Of course this was going to happen, regardless of whether or not it was in his contract.  This is Currie's perceived opportunity for a victory lap.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Panjandrum on April 10, 2013, 12:29:27 PM

I honestly don't care what we're paying him.  As far as I'm concerned, it's just carving out room in the budget for the next guy (if it comes to that).

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Pete on April 10, 2013, 12:39:34 PM

Quote from: Panjandrum on April 10, 2013, 12:29:27 PM

I honestly don't care what we're paying him.  As far as I'm concerned, it's just carving out room in the budget for the next guy (if it comes to that).

Agreed.  He's keeping those budgeted dollars warm. 

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: 0.42 on April 10, 2013, 01:13:07 PM

Quote from: Chingon on April 10, 2013, 11:06:48 AM

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Quote from: michigancat on April 10, 2013, 10:45:11 AM

this seems pretty reasonable. the new salary definitely isn't outlandish, but talk about falling upward. My goodness.

he didn't fall anywhere

he didn't get fired about 13 months ago?

WAY TO LAY IT ON THE LINE!

:D

now there's a true fan

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: 0.42 on April 10, 2013, 01:14:47 PM

Quote from: Pete on April 10, 2013, 12:39:34 PM

Quote from: Panjandrum on April 10, 2013, 12:29:27 PM

I honestly don't care what we're paying him.  As far as I'm concerned, it's just carving out room in the budget for the next guy (if it comes to that).

Agreed.  He's keeping those budgeted dollars warm.

See, dax, we're not all dumbasses

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 10, 2013, 01:20:20 PM

He still makes less than Luke Hochevar

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Panjandrum on April 10, 2013, 01:21:59 PM

Quote from: Pete on April 10, 2013, 12:39:34 PM

Quote from: Panjandrum on April 10, 2013, 12:29:27 PM

I honestly don't care what we're paying him.  As far as I'm concerned, it's just carving out room in the budget for the next guy (if it comes to that).

Agreed.  He's keeping those budgeted dollars warm.

I like the message we're sending.  Win a conference title, and you'll get paid more.

It's the principle of the thing.  If he sucks and we fire him, whatever, but we'll give him more immediately if he wins.

I approve of that strategy.  Let's be up near the top 3-4 schools in the conference in terms of salary.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: lopakman on April 10, 2013, 01:23:44 PM

Quote from: CartierFor3 on April 10, 2013, 01:20:20 PM

He still makes less than Luke Hochevar

He also makes less than Turner Gill.   

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: kso_FAN on April 10, 2013, 01:29:29 PM

Quote from: Panjandrum on April 10, 2013, 01:21:59 PM

Quote from: Pete on April 10, 2013, 12:39:34 PM

Quote from: Panjandrum on April 10, 2013, 12:29:27 PM

I honestly don't care what we're paying him.  As far as I'm concerned, it's just carving out room in the budget for the next guy (if it comes to that).

Agreed.  He's keeping those budgeted dollars warm.

I like the message we're sending.  Win a conference title, and you'll get paid more.

It's the principle of the thing.  If he sucks and we fire him, whatever, but we'll give him more immediately if he wins.

I approve of that strategy.  Let's be up near the top 3-4 schools in the conference in terms of salary.

Yeah, it just kind of makes sense on how it should be done.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on April 10, 2013, 02:06:53 PM

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Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Cire on April 10, 2013, 02:09:46 PM

I'm sad that oscar's name wasn't linked to any offseason openings.  the dude split with ku for christ sakes.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: michigancat on April 10, 2013, 02:24:28 PM

Quote from: Panjandrum on April 10, 2013, 01:21:59 PM

Quote from: Pete on April 10, 2013, 12:39:34 PM

Quote from: Panjandrum on April 10, 2013, 12:29:27 PM

I honestly don't care what we're paying him.  As far as I'm concerned, it's just carving out room in the budget for the next guy (if it comes to that).

Agreed.  He's keeping those budgeted dollars warm.

I like the message we're sending.  Win a conference title, and you'll get paid more.

It's the principle of the thing.  If he sucks and we fire him, whatever, but we'll give him more immediately if he wins.

I approve of that strategy.  Let's be up near the top 3-4 schools in the conference in terms of salary.

If John was concerned about the job looking attractive he maybe should have not let a successful coach leave for a last-place team. I don't know. Just brainstorming here. There's no judgement in brainstorming.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: michigancat on April 10, 2013, 02:36:27 PM

also, did anyone notice that Weber managed to give props to Snyder? The dude's a master.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Cire on April 10, 2013, 02:38:09 PM

Quote from: michigancat on April 10, 2013, 02:24:28 PM

Quote from: Panjandrum on April 10, 2013, 01:21:59 PM

Quote from: Pete on April 10, 2013, 12:39:34 PM

Quote from: Panjandrum on April 10, 2013, 12:29:27 PM

I honestly don't care what we're paying him.  As far as I'm concerned, it's just carving out room in the budget for the next guy (if it comes to that).

Agreed.  He's keeping those budgeted dollars warm.

I like the message we're sending.  Win a conference title, and you'll get paid more.

It's the principle of the thing.  If he sucks and we fire him, whatever, but we'll give him more immediately if he wins.

I approve of that strategy.  Let's be up near the top 3-4 schools in the conference in terms of salary.

If John was concerned about the job looking attractive he maybe should have not let a successful coach leave for a last-place team. I don't know. Just brainstorming here. There's no judgement in brainstorming.

damning.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: EMAWmeister on April 10, 2013, 02:49:09 PM

 :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Win a conference title, get a new contract. That's nothing shocking or surprising in the least.

Get a new contract, get higher expectations. Fail to meet those higher expectations, and you're gone.

This is a good thing IMO

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: pissclams on April 10, 2013, 02:58:39 PM

Place additional chips beside the original bet, and point with one finger.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: michigancat on April 10, 2013, 03:05:28 PM

Quote from: EMAWmeister on April 10, 2013, 02:49:09 PM

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Win a conference title, get a new contract. That's nothing shocking or surprising in the least.

Get a new contract, get higher expectations. Fail to meet those higher expectations, and you're gone.

This is a good thing IMO

well, the first part is right.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: chum1 on April 10, 2013, 03:28:39 PM

I'm going to double down on laying it on the line.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 10, 2013, 03:50:18 PM

Trophies of Significance Factor:

oscar Weber 1

Frank Martin 0

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Mr Bread on April 10, 2013, 03:55:26 PM

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on April 10, 2013, 03:50:18 PM

Trophies of Significance Factor:

oscar Weber 1

Frank Martin 0

oscar has more than one dax.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 10, 2013, 03:59:01 PM

Quote from: michigancat on April 10, 2013, 02:36:27 PM

also, did anyone notice that Weber managed to give props to Snyder? The dude's a master.

every kstate oscar weber release is like that movie where some guy is giving a speech at a pep rally and bombing and then he ends it with "kennedy high football rules" and then everybody goes crazy with clapping and cheering. mention bill? check. quotes from angel? check. ok time to hit send.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: orangerocket on April 10, 2013, 04:11:12 PM

MOTION!

Do you think part of the new contract involves getting a ice cream stand not to be named put outside his office window?

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: yosh on April 10, 2013, 08:16:39 PM

The only possible downside is if he negotiated some huge buyout.  Otherwise there is only upside in this.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: catzacker on April 10, 2013, 09:25:56 PM

Quote from: chum1 on April 10, 2013, 03:28:39 PM

I'm going to double down on laying it on the line.

I'd just stick to the nihilism if I were you, leave the laying it in the line to the existentialists.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: chum1 on April 10, 2013, 09:34:17 PM

I'm going to lay all the double downs on the line.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: hemmy on April 10, 2013, 10:30:12 PM

Do you think oscar has ever considered getting a Cherry Cheese Shake instead of chicken nuggets?

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: TheHamburglar on April 10, 2013, 10:43:15 PM

Quote from: EMAWmeister on April 10, 2013, 02:49:09 PM

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Win a conference title, get a new contract. That's nothing shocking or surprising in the least.

Get a new contract, get higher expectations. Fail to meet those higher expectations, and you're gone.

This is a good thing IMO

This isn't going to happen.  It will go the other way. When he starts failing to met expectations all you'll hear out of the tucks is stuff about how hard it is to sustain success and if the guy that gave us the 1st in 36 can't do it no one can. Then they'll throw in oscar's excuse of the day (and he'll have one) and he'll still be our coach.

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: 0.42 on April 10, 2013, 11:01:52 PM

Quote from: catzacker on April 10, 2013, 09:25:56 PM

Quote from: chum1 on April 10, 2013, 03:28:39 PM

I'm going to double down on laying it on the line.

I'd just stick to the nihilism if I were you, leave the laying it in the line to the existentialists.

fwaaaaa---! :D

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 10, 2013, 11:27:05 PM

Interesting interpretation of the term "doubles-down"

Title: Re: Currie doubles down on "good enough" with the BB program, gives Weber extension
Post by: TheHamburglar on April 11, 2013, 12:34:26 AM

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 10, 2013, 11:27:05 PM

Interesting interpretation of the term "doubles-down"

It was something I typed quickly so I wouldn't get Luked, don't read too much into it.