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Title: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: Kat Kid on April 01, 2013, 08:30:45 PM
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=clent-stewart&clent-stewart=2006-2007&i=1&p1=will-spradling (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=clent-stewart&clent-stewart=2006-2007&i=1&p1=will-spradling)
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: yoman on April 01, 2013, 08:32:51 PM
That seems fair. At the same time, it is hard for me to believe our guard play has improved so much that watching Clent level play has become intolerable. He used to seem at least reasonable.
Title: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: pissclams on April 01, 2013, 08:37:00 PM
sprads is a big 12 champ
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 01, 2013, 08:38:48 PM
sprads is a big 12 champ

Merriweather went to the E8
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: wetwillie on April 01, 2013, 08:40:25 PM
sprads is a big 12 champ

Merriweather went to the E8

Michael Beasley never made it out of the first weekend
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: Panjandrum on April 01, 2013, 08:42:52 PM
I used to see Frank Richards in the computer lab.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: j-dub on April 01, 2013, 08:53:27 PM
my 2 least favorite cat ballers of all time.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: kso_FAN on April 01, 2013, 08:54:05 PM
Speaking of comparos... http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=rodney-mcgruder&p1=tim-ellis&rodney-mcgruder=2012-2013&tim-ellis=2003-2004
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 08:55:56 PM
Clent was a point guard, Will is a shooting guard. I loved Clent, if he was asked to be Lance Harris I would have not loved Clent. Frank gave Will the opportunity to be Clent but he and his dad didn't want that.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 08:56:55 PM
my 2 least favorite cat ballers of all time.

I really don't understand not liking Clent.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: Kat Kid on April 01, 2013, 08:58:02 PM
That seems fair. At the same time, it is hard for me to believe our guard play has improved so much that watching Clent level play has become intolerable. He used to seem at least reasonable.

yoman, I anticipated this very point being raised.  Allow me:

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=clent-stewart&clent-stewart=2005-2006&i=1&p1=will-spradling&will-spradling=2011-2012 (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=clent-stewart&clent-stewart=2005-2006&i=1&p1=will-spradling&will-spradling=2011-2012)

Mario Taybron took Clent's minutes.  Wooly was an idiot.  Frank looks like a rotation genius compared to him.
 
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: kso_FAN on April 01, 2013, 08:58:45 PM
my 2 least favorite cat ballers of all time.

I really don't understand not liking Clent.

I always liked Clent as well, but he was the ultimate "facilitator" PG. To me he really showed why Wooly ultimately failed.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: Kat Kid on April 01, 2013, 09:00:02 PM
my 2 least favorite cat ballers of all time.

I really don't understand not liking Clent.

I think he is great personally.  I just was always frustrated with his basketball playing.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: kso_FAN on April 01, 2013, 09:00:29 PM
That seems fair. At the same time, it is hard for me to believe our guard play has improved so much that watching Clent level play has become intolerable. He used to seem at least reasonable.

yoman, I anticipated this very point being raised.  Allow me:

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=clent-stewart&clent-stewart=2005-2006&i=1&p1=will-spradling&will-spradling=2011-2012 (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=clent-stewart&clent-stewart=2005-2006&i=1&p1=will-spradling&will-spradling=2011-2012)

Mario Taybron took Clent's minutes.  Wooly was an idiot.  Frank looks like a rotation genius compared to him.
 

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvmedia.rivals.com%2FIMAGES%2FPROSPECT%2FPHOTO%2FMARIOTAYBRON4_20150.JPG&hash=15cb93ca0ee9885c73fa3f810dbf8a9e73091059)
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: Kat Kid on April 01, 2013, 09:01:01 PM
Full credit to _FAN here.....

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=cartier-martin&i=1&p1=tim-ellis&p2=rodney-mcgruder&rodney-mcgruder=2012-2013&tim-ellis=2003-2004 (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=cartier-martin&i=1&p1=tim-ellis&p2=rodney-mcgruder&rodney-mcgruder=2012-2013&tim-ellis=2003-2004)
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 09:17:57 PM
my 2 least favorite cat ballers of all time.

I really don't understand not liking Clent.

I think he is great personally.  I just was always frustrated with his basketball playing.

I'd love it if you addressed my other post.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 01, 2013, 09:25:49 PM
my 2 least favorite cat ballers of all time.

Boo friggity hoo that Clent didn't hit a 3 against Wisconsin and was not a creator with the ball.

Clent's Mom was a hero, battling cancer, and supporting the team long enough to see 84-75. A true hero and inspiration. Clent was a class act through the entire ordeal and was EMAW. Also was the leading scorer at 59-55.

Spradling's dad hangs out with Matt Dohrety and he is a baby.  :sdeek:


I don't give a crap what the stats say. Spradling could be 60% from 3 next year and be 1st team all league and for me Clent > Sprads and it wouldn't even be close.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: Kat Kid on April 01, 2013, 09:26:39 PM
Clent was a point guard, Will is a shooting guard. I loved Clent, if he was asked to be Lance Harris I would have not loved Clent. Frank gave Will the opportunity to be Clent but he and his dad didn't want that.

I agree.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: MakeItRain on April 01, 2013, 09:55:32 PM
 :dance:
Title: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: Pete on April 01, 2013, 10:19:36 PM
Both are not good enough to start for middling Valley teams, so they do have that in common.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: CyberToothCat on April 01, 2013, 10:25:08 PM
Both are not good enough to start for middling Valley teams, so they do have that in common.

Both started for us. Does that make us a middling Valley program?
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: Spaces on April 01, 2013, 10:33:51 PM
That seems fair. At the same time, it is hard for me to believe our guard play has improved so much that watching Clent level play has become intolerable. He used to seem at least reasonable.

yoman, I anticipated this very point being raised.  Allow me:

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=clent-stewart&clent-stewart=2005-2006&i=1&p1=will-spradling&will-spradling=2011-2012 (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=clent-stewart&clent-stewart=2005-2006&i=1&p1=will-spradling&will-spradling=2011-2012)

Mario Taybron took Clent's minutes.  Wooly was an idiot.  Frank looks like a rotation genius compared to him.
 

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvmedia.rivals.com%2FIMAGES%2FPROSPECT%2FPHOTO%2FMARIOTAYBRON4_20150.JPG&hash=15cb93ca0ee9885c73fa3f810dbf8a9e73091059)
Taybron gave me his towel after a game once and it's my golf towel now.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: Panjandrum on April 01, 2013, 10:34:20 PM
Both are not good enough to start for middling Valley teams, so they do have that in common.

Both started for us. Does that make us a middling Valley program?

I don't want to see what happens when we go down this road.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: Spaces on April 01, 2013, 10:35:00 PM
my 2 least favorite cat ballers of all time.

I really don't understand not liking Clent.

I always liked Clent as well, but he was the ultimate "facilitator" PG. To me he really showed why Wooly ultimately failed.
How great was Clent's proposal on Senior Night  :cry:
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: bones129 on April 01, 2013, 10:35:25 PM
That seems fair. At the same time, it is hard for me to believe our guard play has improved so much that watching Clent level play has become intolerable. He used to seem at least reasonable.

yoman, I anticipated this very point being raised.  Allow me:

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=clent-stewart&clent-stewart=2005-2006&i=1&p1=will-spradling&will-spradling=2011-2012 (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=clent-stewart&clent-stewart=2005-2006&i=1&p1=will-spradling&will-spradling=2011-2012)

Mario Taybron took Clent's minutes.  Wooly was an idiot.  Frank looks like a rotation genius compared to him.
 

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvmedia.rivals.com%2FIMAGES%2FPROSPECT%2FPHOTO%2FMARIOTAYBRON4_20150.JPG&hash=15cb93ca0ee9885c73fa3f810dbf8a9e73091059)
Taybron gave me his towel after a game once and it's my golf towel now.

Good golf towels are hard to come by. Most wear out too quickly.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: SwiftCat on April 01, 2013, 10:41:22 PM
Full credit to _FAN here.....

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=cartier-martin&i=1&p1=tim-ellis&p2=rodney-mcgruder&rodney-mcgruder=2012-2013&tim-ellis=2003-2004 (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=cartier-martin&i=1&p1=tim-ellis&p2=rodney-mcgruder&rodney-mcgruder=2012-2013&tim-ellis=2003-2004)

Yeah, I always thought Rod had a lot of Cartier in him. Rod did much better the last two years creating his own shot though. I would also say he's a little better off the dribble. But I was just starting to really get into kstate bball when Cartier played so I could be remembering wrong.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: 'taterblast on April 01, 2013, 10:42:30 PM
clent's shot looked a lot like will's iirc
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: Spaces on April 01, 2013, 10:50:15 PM
That seems fair. At the same time, it is hard for me to believe our guard play has improved so much that watching Clent level play has become intolerable. He used to seem at least reasonable.

yoman, I anticipated this very point being raised.  Allow me:

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=clent-stewart&clent-stewart=2005-2006&i=1&p1=will-spradling&will-spradling=2011-2012 (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=clent-stewart&clent-stewart=2005-2006&i=1&p1=will-spradling&will-spradling=2011-2012)

Mario Taybron took Clent's minutes.  Wooly was an idiot.  Frank looks like a rotation genius compared to him.
 

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvmedia.rivals.com%2FIMAGES%2FPROSPECT%2FPHOTO%2FMARIOTAYBRON4_20150.JPG&hash=15cb93ca0ee9885c73fa3f810dbf8a9e73091059)
Taybron gave me his towel after a game once and it's my golf towel now.

Good golf towels are hard to come by. Most wear out too quickly.
This one has a little red Gatorade spot that won't come out to remind me of Mario.
Title: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 01, 2013, 11:20:20 PM
we have Gillsson DeJesus' Porky Morgan Award plaque on our bus
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: MakeItRain on April 02, 2013, 12:00:22 AM
we have Gillsson DeJesus' Porky Morgan Award plaque on our bus

go on...
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: kso_FAN on April 02, 2013, 07:03:30 AM
we have Gillsson DeJesus' Porky Morgan Award plaque on our bus

Throwing in Gilson to the K-State swing forward comparos:

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=gilson-dejesus&i=1&p1=tim-ellis&p2=rodney-mcgruder&p3=cartier-martin&rodney-mcgruder=2012-2013&tim-ellis=2003-2004

I sat in the chairbacks when Gilson destroyed Oregon State in the OOD. Fun game.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: ben ji on April 02, 2013, 08:53:03 AM
Full credit to _FAN here.....

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=cartier-martin&i=1&p1=tim-ellis&p2=rodney-mcgruder&rodney-mcgruder=2012-2013&tim-ellis=2003-2004 (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=cartier-martin&i=1&p1=tim-ellis&p2=rodney-mcgruder&rodney-mcgruder=2012-2013&tim-ellis=2003-2004)

Yeah, I always thought Rod had a lot of Cartier in him. Rod did much better the last two years creating his own shot though. I would also say he's a little better off the dribble. But I was just starting to really get into kstate bball when Cartier played so I could be remembering wrong.

Along with 90% of this board me included
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: KanSt43 on April 02, 2013, 09:35:11 AM
DeJesus lit up Bobby Knight's Red Raider squad iirc...
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: 'taterblast on April 02, 2013, 09:36:35 AM
DeJesus lit up Bobby Knight's Red Raider squad iirc...

was a very exciting night for 12 yo (ish?) emawblast.... i thought we had "made it"
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 02, 2013, 09:40:52 AM
we have Gillsson DeJesus' Porky Morgan Award plaque on our bus

go on...

not much of a story. After destroying a Bobby Knight TT squad, G DJamer must have been feeling like such a stud that he pawned his Most Inspirational plaque and we got it at Grand Ol' Trunk (then Grandma's Trunk lmao).
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: Skipper44 on April 02, 2013, 09:42:07 AM
we have Gillsson DeJesus' Porky Morgan Award plaque on our bus

go on...

not much of a story. After destroying a Bobby Knight TT squad, G DJamer must have been feeling like such a stud that he pawned his Most Inspirational plaque and we got it at Grand Ol' Trunk (then Grandma's Trunk lmao).
How much was this EMAW treasure?
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: Gooch on April 02, 2013, 10:50:31 AM
I did and do not hate Clent.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: j-dub on April 02, 2013, 11:12:03 AM
my 2 least favorite cat ballers of all time.

Boo friggity hoo that Clent didn't hit a 3 against Wisconsin and was not a creator with the ball.

Clent's Mom was a hero, battling cancer, and supporting the team long enough to see 84-75. A true hero and inspiration. Clent was a class act through the entire ordeal and was EMAW. Also was the leading scorer at 59-55.

Spradling's dad hangs out with Matt Dohrety and he is a baby.  :sdeek:


I don't give a crap what the stats say. Spradling could be 60% from 3 next year and be 1st team all league and for me Clent > Sprads and it wouldn't even be close.

meh. seems forced. like you don't really believe it (except the clent>sprads part, i mean obvs...). like you just wanted to see what it would feel like to be an internet tough guy for a second (and didn't pull it off).
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: MakeItRain on April 02, 2013, 12:43:37 PM
DeJesus lit up Bobby Knight's Red Raider squad iirc...

Bob Knight's first T at Tech.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: slucat on April 02, 2013, 01:00:20 PM
DeJesus lit up Bobby Knight's Red Raider squad iirc...

Bob Knight's first T at Tech.

I was there.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: yoman on April 02, 2013, 01:12:42 PM
DeJesus lit up Bobby Knight's Red Raider squad iirc...

Bob Knight's first T at Tech.

I was there.
Attending over half the games from the Wooly era should earn you a lifetime achievement award for loyalty to the university.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: kso_FAN on April 02, 2013, 01:18:02 PM
DeJesus lit up Bobby Knight's Red Raider squad iirc...

Bob Knight's first T at Tech.

I was there.
Attending over half the games from the Wooly era should earn you a lifetime achievement award for loyalty to the university.

How about 85-90% attendance?
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 02, 2013, 01:44:39 PM
my 2 least favorite cat ballers of all time.

Boo friggity hoo that Clent didn't hit a 3 against Wisconsin and was not a creator with the ball.

Clent's Mom was a hero, battling cancer, and supporting the team long enough to see 84-75. A true hero and inspiration. Clent was a class act through the entire ordeal and was EMAW. Also was the leading scorer at 59-55.

Spradling's dad hangs out with Matt Dohrety and he is a baby.  :sdeek:


I don't give a crap what the stats say. Spradling could be 60% from 3 next year and be 1st team all league and for me Clent > Sprads and it wouldn't even be close.

meh. seems forced. like you don't really believe it (except the clent>sprads part, i mean obvs...). like you just wanted to see what it would feel like to be an internet tough guy for a second (and didn't pull it off).

Which part seems forced?
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: MakeItRain on April 02, 2013, 01:46:32 PM
DeJesus lit up Bobby Knight's Red Raider squad iirc...

Bob Knight's first T at Tech.

I was there.
Attending over half the games from the Wooly era should earn you a lifetime achievement award for loyalty to the university.

How about 85-90% attendance?

Me too! There was a great crowd that night and great in those days was about 10,000. Back then I didn't know what a tuck was or how much they love Knight.

I didn't miss a home men's or women's game, football game, or volleyball match from 96-00. #kbrageo
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: lopakman on April 02, 2013, 02:02:06 PM
DeJesus lit up Bobby Knight's Red Raider squad iirc...

Bob Knight's first T at Tech.

I was there.
Attending over half the games from the Wooly era should earn you a lifetime achievement award for loyalty to the university.

Okay so what do I get for attending the games under Tom Asbury?  I almost went blind watching Pero Vasiljevic miss layups.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: yoman on April 02, 2013, 02:07:07 PM
DeJesus lit up Bobby Knight's Red Raider squad iirc...

Bob Knight's first T at Tech.

I was there.
Attending over half the games from the Wooly era should earn you a lifetime achievement award for loyalty to the university.

How about 85-90% attendance?
A Vietnam Memorial style monument for those who endured.

DeJesus lit up Bobby Knight's Red Raider squad iirc...

Bob Knight's first T at Tech.

I was there.
Attending over half the games from the Wooly era should earn you a lifetime achievement award for loyalty to the university.

Okay so what do I get for attending the games under Tom Asbury?  I almost went blind watching Pero Vasiljevic miss layups.
Same deal. +50%, lifetime achievement. +85%, name on the monument. We shall not forget. We shall overcome.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: yosh on April 02, 2013, 05:51:06 PM
I like both those dudes!   :ksu:   :love:
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: kougar24 on April 03, 2013, 12:15:54 AM
I probably hit the 98% attendance mark through Asbury AND Wooly. Suck on THAT, _FAN!
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: kso_FAN on April 03, 2013, 07:04:20 AM
I probably hit the 98% attendance mark through Asbury AND Wooly. Suck on THAT, _FAN!

Join the club.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: kougar24 on April 03, 2013, 10:45:35 AM
I probably hit the 98% attendance mark through Asbury AND Wooly. Suck on THAT, _FAN!

Join the club.

Nope, you're on the books at "85-90%." It is written.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 24, 2013, 08:04:14 AM
Grandma's trunk charged $2.50.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: LickNeckey on April 24, 2013, 10:17:03 AM
I probably hit the 98% attendance mark through Asbury AND Wooly. Suck on THAT, _FAN!

Join the club.

i'm also in the club  :gocho:

also at 0% for the Weber tenure
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: Cire on April 24, 2013, 10:52:39 AM
I went to pretty much every wooly game that happened when school was in session.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: slimz on April 24, 2013, 11:14:03 AM
DeJesus lit up Bobby Knight's Red Raider squad iirc...

Bob Knight's first T at Tech.

I was there.
Attending over half the games from the Wooly era should earn you a lifetime achievement award for loyalty to the university.

Right now I would settle for not being called an "idiot," "not a real K-State fan," etc.
Title: Re: will spradling = clent stewart
Post by: yoman on April 24, 2013, 03:14:01 PM
DeJesus lit up Bobby Knight's Red Raider squad iirc...

Bob Knight's first T at Tech.

I was there.
Attending over half the games from the Wooly era should earn you a lifetime achievement award for loyalty to the university.

Right now I would settle for not being called an "idiot," "not a real K-State fan," etc.
No, you're an idiot if you wanted for time for Wooly, asbury etc (sorry _FAN). You're painfully loyal if you hated those assholes, yet went anyway.