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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: gatoveintisiete on February 22, 2013, 11:50:26 AM
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I know a lot of you have slipped through the cracks lately, who are the holdouts so I know who to laugh at?
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Apparently you didn't bbs in the off season when we said this would happen.
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Yeah, gatoveintisiete just looks like a bigger dumbass with every post. The best we can all hope for is a deep tournament run and then oscar finding a better job.
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I'm still not convinced oscar was the right hire. What now, mother rough rider?
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Who cares, just enjoy the season. No matter who the coach is in the future, this kind of success may or may not last.
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Few were ever on board with #burnitdown
A lot of us fear #deathby1000razorcuts
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Few were ever on board with #burnitdown
Debatable.
A lot of us fear #deathby1000razorcuts
Absolutely.
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Apparently you didn't bbs in the off season when we said this would happen.
Yep
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Present.
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Who cares, just enjoy the season. No matter who the coach is in the future, this kind of success may or may not last.
oh I'm enjoying the crap out of it.
What now, mother rough rider?
(if this was directed toward gato, I'm sorry for my little outburst.)
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Who cares, just enjoy the season. No matter who the coach is in the future, this kind of success may or may not last.
oh I'm enjoying the crap out of it.
What now, mother rough rider?
(if this was directed toward gato, I'm sorry for my little outburst.)
It was directed at the entire thread. I myself did not like the hire, but I couldn't care less at this point.
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ok, my what now mother rough rider still stands, then
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Didn't we just have this thread like 2 weeks ago? Woof.
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Well, we all know that Frank only won with Huggins’/Te’s recruits, so let’s give this oscar character a few more years to really earn this.
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Few were ever on board with #burnitdown <----- nicname was not
A lot of us fear #deathby1000razorcuts <------ nicname did and still does
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Here also rooting for my qats
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to the bid's that have answered the call, I won't even laugh at you if things go the way I expect, for I respect you standing up for what you believe. For those that hide in the shadows only to take potshots after the fact, I will expose you to the light of day. As has been repeated on and on and on, this is not a battle it is a war, and it will be a long one. The bid's have set a high standard for success, we must wait until all of Franks guys are gone before we can judge, I will honor this (it is unreasonable but I will honor it). Why then do I troll before we know the results, because what fun would it be after we know? I am prepared to be ridiculed if I am wrong (i'm not by the way). It is equally important that the Northface crowd have their noses rubbed in their feces when they are proved wrong. There are currently rats jumping the bid ship, and other more wiley rats hedging their bets, and massaging their bid stance. This was to be expected, what they have seen now and has them worried is that 1. oscar coaches great offensive basketball for the talent level you get at k-state. 2. oscar coaches good defense. and 3. oscar's 13 recruits are on par with what we have had since groat. These three reasons are why the smart and wiley bid's stay away from this topic.
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to the bid's that have answered the call, I won't even laugh at you if things go the way I expect, for I respect you standing up for what you believe. For those that hide in the shadows only to take potshots after the fact, I will expose you to the light of day. As has been repeated on and on and on, this is not a battle it is a war, and it will be a long one. The bid's have set a high standard for success, we must wait until all of Franks guys are gone before we can judge, I will honor this (it is unreasonable but I will honor it). Why then do I troll before we know the results, because what fun would it be after we know? I am prepared to be ridiculed if I am wrong (i'm not by the way). It is equally important that the Northface crowd have their noses rubbed in their feces when they are proved wrong. There are currently rats jumping the bid ship, and other more wiley rats hedging their bets, and massaging their bid stance. This was to be expected, what they have seen now and has them worried is that 1. oscar coaches great offensive basketball for the talent level you get at k-state. 2. oscar coaches good defense. and 3. oscar's 13 recruits are on par with what we have had since groat. These three reasons are why the smart and wiley bid's stay away from this topic.
DNR
Also, everyone knew we could have a really good season. Even the Pro-Bruceketballers shouldn't judge oscar until after next season.
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For the life of me, I just can't understand this "northface crowd" reference.
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For the life of me, I just can't understand this "northface crowd" reference.
do you own a black northface jacket?
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For the life of me, I just can't understand this "northface crowd" reference.
do you own a black northface jacket?
No, but maybe I should. :dunno:
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If you want in that crowd, I'll just include you it's no big deal.
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to the bid's that have answered the call, I won't even laugh at you if things go the way I expect, for I respect you standing up for what you believe. For those that hide in the shadows only to take potshots after the fact, I will expose you to the light of day. As has been repeated on and on and on, this is not a battle it is a war, and it will be a long one. The bid's have set a high standard for success, we must wait until all of Franks guys are gone before we can judge, I will honor this (it is unreasonable but I will honor it). Why then do I troll before we know the results, because what fun would it be after we know? I am prepared to be ridiculed if I am wrong (i'm not by the way). It is equally important that the Northface crowd have their noses rubbed in their feces when they are proved wrong. There are currently rats jumping the bid ship, and other more wiley rats hedging their bets, and massaging their bid stance. This was to be expected, what they have seen now and has them worried is that 1. oscar coaches great offensive basketball for the talent level you get at k-state. 2. oscar coaches good defense. and 3. oscar's 13 recruits are on par with what we have had since groat. These three reasons are why the smart and wiley bid's stay away from this topic.
you can go eff yourself.
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I own a northface jacket. But I'm not Teamburnitdown.
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One time I was at A-Basin and still super shitfaced from bingeing until about 5 am. It was 7:00 in the morning at the ski rental place and I unknowingly bought a ridiculously expensive pair of northface ski pants. Which #team am I on?
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100% #burnitdown
This season has completely gone to our script so far.
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Apparently you didn't bbs in the off season when we said this would happen.
yeah
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so wait is hating oscar exclusively a frat thing or something?
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so wait is hating oscar exclusively a frat thing or something?
Yeah, he can eff himself regardless of his feelings of thinking he's right about oscar or whatever.
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This season has completely gone to our script so far.
:flush:
I'm curious as to what the script would have looked like with Frank still here? I mean aside from the normal franked players and Frankuary of course.
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Is there where we post about how successful #bid is right now? I mean, we couldn't have predicted this thing to go absolutely according to our plan, but so far so good.
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This season has completely gone to our script so far.
:flush:
I'm curious as to what the script would have looked like with Frank still here? I mean aside from the normal franked players and Frankuary of course.
It would look a lot like it does now, except more ESPN, and less fear for the future. Also, more people at the games.
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This season has completely gone to our script so far.
:flush:
I'm curious as to what the script would have looked like with Frank still here? I mean aside from the normal franked players and Frankuary of course.
It would look a lot like it does now, except more ESPN, and less fear for the future. Also, more people at the games.
yep
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remember when goodman and parrish would banter with frank on twitter? :love:
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This season has completely gone to our script so far.
:flush:
I'm curious as to what the script would have looked like with Frank still here? I mean aside from the normal franked players and Frankuary of course.
It would look a lot like it does now, except more ESPN, and less fear for the future. Also, more people at the games.
yep
So really it comes down to missing the entertainment factor that was Frank on the sidelines rather than the product on the floor. I'm cool with that.
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I don't think Spradling would still be around if Frank were still here. Also, no Orris.
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This season has completely gone to our script so far.
:flush:
I'm curious as to what the script would have looked like with Frank still here? I mean aside from the normal franked players and Frankuary of course.
It would look a lot like it does now, except more ESPN, and less fear for the future. Also, more people at the games.
yep
So really it comes down to missing the entertainment factor that was Frank on the sidelines rather than the product on the floor. I'm cool with that.
the product on the floor would be the exact same, dork.
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This season has completely gone to our script so far.
:flush:
I'm curious as to what the script would have looked like with Frank still here? I mean aside from the normal franked players and Frankuary of course.
It would look a lot like it does now, except more ESPN, and less fear for the future. Also, more people at the games.
yep
So really it comes down to missing the entertainment factor that was Frank on the sidelines rather than the product on the floor. I'm cool with that.
the product on the floor would be the exact same, dork.
Umm, no it's not. Different philosophy offensively and in rebounding has altered that somewhat. Do you watch basketball?
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This season has completely gone to our script so far.
:flush:
I'm curious as to what the script would have looked like with Frank still here? I mean aside from the normal franked players and Frankuary of course.
It would look a lot like it does now, except more ESPN, and less fear for the future. Also, more people at the games.
yep
So really it comes down to missing the entertainment factor that was Frank on the sidelines rather than the product on the floor. I'm cool with that.
the product on the floor would be the exact same, dork.
Umm, no it's not. Different philosophy offensively and in rebounding has altered that somewhat. Do you watch basketball?
same stud players doing stud things, getting buckets and wins. has nothing to do with a coach or philosophy. dork.
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DNR, but I'm still here. I've got a magnet and everything.
(Thanks, Testy Westy).
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I'm here. What now, [redacted]?
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This season has completely gone to our script so far.
:flush:
I'm curious as to what the script would have looked like with Frank still here? I mean aside from the normal franked players and Frankuary of course.
It would look a lot like it does now, except more ESPN, and less fear for the future. Also, more people at the games.
yep
So really it comes down to missing the entertainment factor that was Frank on the sidelines rather than the product on the floor. I'm cool with that.
the product on the floor would be the exact same, dork.
Umm, no it's not. Different philosophy offensively and in rebounding has altered that somewhat. Do you watch basketball?
same stud players doing stud things, getting buckets and wins. has nothing to do with a coach or philosophy. dork.
Bullshit. Sure it's hard to tell whether or not guys like Southwell and Angel would have stepped up for Frank like they have this season but to say it's the same just validates how much of a rough ridin' dillweed you are...
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What team is “I don’t/didn’t want oscar because he’s going to do what he did at Illinois except without the elite success, but hooray because ksu is winning and lol at people who wanted oscar thinking that they get more pleasure out of ksu winning than I do”?
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What team is “I don’t/didn’t want oscar because he’s going to do what he did at Illinois except without the elite success, but hooray because ksu is winning and lol at people who wanted oscar thinking that they get more pleasure out of ksu winning than I do”?
BiD
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DNR entire Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thread, but jfc there are like twenty threads already identifying #TBID members
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DNR entire Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thread, but jfc there are like twenty threads already identifying #TBID members
:thumbs:
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#teamsameteamaszacker
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What team is “I don’t/didn’t want oscar because he’s going to do what he did at Illinois except without the elite success, but hooray because ksu is winning and lol at people who wanted oscar thinking that they get more pleasure out of ksu winning than I do”?
BiD
Yep
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#teamBiD and #teamOriginalPosterCanGoFuckHimself
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so wait is hating oscar exclusively a frat thing or something?
Yeah, he can eff himself regardless of his feelings of thinking he's right about oscar or whatever.
Oh crap, I think we found someone with a northface jacket, and a sore bah-bah lol.
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so wait is hating oscar exclusively a frat thing or something?
Yeah, he can eff himself regardless of his feelings of thinking he's right about oscar or whatever.
Oh crap, I think we found someone with a northface jacket, and a sore bah-bah lol.
You are very bad at this.
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I'm here. What now, [redacted]?
we wait :lick:
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100% #burnitdown
This season has completely gone to our script so far.
I kinda agree, but the end of the story is much different, keep reading.
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I own a northface jacket. But I'm not Teamburnitdown.
outlier
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so wait is hating oscar exclusively a frat thing or something?
Yeah, he can eff himself regardless of his feelings of thinking he's right about oscar or whatever.
Oh crap, I think we found someone with a northface jacket, and a sore bah-bah lol.
What in god's name is wrong with nicely made, warm, stylish jackets made by a well reputed company? Afraid of looking :kstategrad: ?
<---(FTR, not in a frat)
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Ok thats two
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I think he is implying they're douchey, which is ironic given his thread of "Post here and beg for mercy as I judge you"
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was the op #bid and has been swayed by the siren song of success?
I've never seen something like this happen, anybody got any examples even close. Something tells me this is not going to stick, when Weber sees how revolted we are by his hiring I think he will understand this is not the right job for him.
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:surprised:
great catch skipper44
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was the op #bid and has been swayed by the siren song of success?
I've never seen something like this happen, anybody got any examples even close. Something tells me this is not going to stick, when Weber sees how revolted we are by his hiring I think he will understand this is not the right job for him.
Way to expose gatovientisiete "to the light of day" as he "takes pot shots after the fact"
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I'm currently wearing a NF pullover
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three
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never bid
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I'm currently wearing a NF pullover
Would you recommend buying one, or is there another pullover on the market that is more elite? On one hand, I feel like I already have plenty of pullovers, but on the other hand, if NF really is the cream of the crop, I should probably own one.
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Still here, [redacted].
Even if we're just as good this year with oscar as we would've been with Frank, dumbass OP and Gunnar have to admit a few things:
1) We're getting about 1/4th the national exposure now that we would have with Frank
2) This isn't nearly as much fun
3) The BBSing is absolutely terrible by comparo.
So yeah, pretty much we have been right all along about everything so far.
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100% #burnitdown
This season has completely gone to our script so far.
I kinda agree, but the end of the story is much different, keep reading.
You know how good we'll be in 2014-15? Do tell, guy!
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Still here, [redacted].
Even if we're just as good this year with oscar as we would've been with Frank, dumbass OP and Gunnar have to admit a few things:
1) We're getting about 1/4th the national exposure now that we would have with Frank
2) This isn't nearly as much fun
3) The BBSing is absolutely terrible by comparo.
So yeah, pretty much we have been right all along about everything so far.
I may have to disagree with #2. I really like watching us play small and jack up (and make) tons of 3's. Very fun to watch.
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Still here, [redacted].
Even if we're just as good this year with oscar as we would've been with Frank, dumbass OP and Gunnar have to admit a few things:
1) We're getting about 1/4th the national exposure now that we would have with Frank
2) This isn't nearly as much fun
3) The BBSing is absolutely terrible by comparo.
So yeah, pretty much we have been right all along about everything so far.
Team bid making some really important points here, not gonna lie, wondering if I'm on the right side of history now.
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Still here, [redacted].
Even if we're just as good this year with oscar as we would've been with Frank, dumbass OP and Gunnar have to admit a few things:
1) We're getting about 1/4th the national exposure now that we would have with Frank
2) This isn't nearly as much fun
3) The BBSing is absolutely terrible by comparo.
So yeah, pretty much we have been right all along about everything so far.
Threads like this one are a big contributor to the terrible BBSing.
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Still here, [redacted].
Even if we're just as good this year with oscar as we would've been with Frank, dumbass OP and Gunnar have to admit a few things:
1) We're getting about 1/4th the national exposure now that we would have with Frank
2) This isn't nearly as much fun
3) The BBSing is absolutely terrible by comparo.
So yeah, pretty much we have been right all along about everything so far.
I may have to disagree with #2. I really like watching us play small and jack up (and make) tons of 3's. Very fun to watch.
I miss Frank/Stan interviews. That to me was just as much fun as watching us play small. :cry:
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Still here, [redacted].
Even if we're just as good this year with oscar as we would've been with Frank, dumbass OP and Gunnar have to admit a few things:
1) We're getting about 1/4th the national exposure now that we would have with Frank
2) This isn't nearly as much fun
3) The BBSing is absolutely terrible by comparo.
So yeah, pretty much we have been right all along about everything so far.
I may have to disagree with #2. I really like watching us play small and jack up (and make) tons of 3's. Very fun to watch.
I miss Frank/Stan interviews. That to me was just as much fun as watching us play small. :cry:
Yeah, I wasn't sure if you meant on the court or strictly off the court. Off the court is way less interesting. And as for BBSing, goEMAW's biggest day before the pigaggie invasion was when Wally Judge left, so I'm sure goEMAW's revenue is down.
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exclusively a hoodie guy here, never owned a NF product. which side of the issue am i supposed to be on?
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I think anyone can agree that no matter where you stand on this issue, its really fun to win.
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there is no more BID. There is only goEMAW. :bball:
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I think anyone can agree that no matter where you stand on this issue, its really fun to win.
Yep
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I wear a Patagonia jacket
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We'll accept that- four
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Still here, [redacted].
Even if we're just as good this year with oscar as we would've been with Frank, dumbass OP and Gunnar have to admit a few things:
1) We're getting about 1/4th the national exposure now that we would have with Frank
2) This isn't nearly as much fun
3) The BBSing is absolutely terrible by comparo.
So yeah, pretty much we have been right all along about everything so far.
1) So true, I really didn't realize how much Frank WAS our brand, until he left. I stay up to watch SC every night after our games, and rarely do they even show obligatory top 25 highlights of the Cats. It's like they are purposefully not giving us any love.
2) I like winning basketball games, and we're winning a lot of them. If we would have beat KU, this probs would have been the most fun regular season that I can remember.
3) I wasn't an active participant in the BBSing until this year, but I do remember it being a lot better when Frank was here. He created an intensity level around our program that was palpable, people really rough ridin' cared...and they showed up for Big Monday.
Also, the OP can get mumped, this thread is silly and selfish (other than the North Face convo, I'm really enjoying that :popcorn:)
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I really don't know what the eff the deal is with north face. Is it a Greek thing now?
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I really don't know what the eff the deal is with north face. Is it a Greek thing now?
Has it ever not been a greek thing? (No.)
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I really don't know what the eff the deal is with north face. Is it a Greek thing now?
I think the houses give North Face jackets to all their members for homecoming or something.
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I really don't know what the eff the deal is with north face. Is it a Greek thing now?
Has it ever not been a greek thing? (No.)
yes, it's very popular with greeks, to deny that is being dishonest.
i always thought of it as a sorority uniform, but it seems to have gained a stronghold into frats now too.
not saying any of that is negative, but it's still true.
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I really don't know what the eff the deal is with north face. Is it a Greek thing now?
Has it ever not been a greek thing? (No.)
um, grown-ups wear them all the time, dumbass.
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I really don't know what the eff the deal is with north face. Is it a Greek thing now?
Has it ever not been a greek thing? (No.)
um, grown-ups wear them all the time, dumbass.
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I really don't know what the eff the deal is with north face. Is it a Greek thing now?
I think the houses give North Face jackets to all their members for homecoming or something.
something like this. every greek person (seems to) own a black NF pullover with their letters on it.
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I really don't know what the eff the deal is with north face. Is it a Greek thing now?
Has it ever not been a greek thing? (No.)
um, grown-ups wear them all the time, dumbass.
um, grown-ups can wear things that are also very prevalent among greeks on college campuses, dumbass. jesus mich.
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The meditation hall, when I entered it, rustled with saffron and mauve robes. It was painted red and gold, like the monasteries of Nepal. The men and women both had shaved heads, and were counting their beads with various signs of attentiveness and devotion. I sidled down the crowded aisle and found myself a seat at one corner. Finally, a big gong went off. Bigyan, surrounded by a big entourage, walked briskly down the hall. He strode briskly down the hall while people rustled and bowed around him. I almost laughed out loud.
"Lets talk about peace," Bigyan said. I hid my grin behind a cupped palm. I was feeling revived. The microphone whined for a moment, and then went back to a normal level. "If water is left undisturbed, water remains clear and transparent." He gave a big smile, like he had just made a big statement. "So with our minds. To let the mind rest in a state of peace is Buddhist spiritual practice."
The whispers quieted down. For a moment, the hectic work-day, frantic buzz of the airport, the mad rush of the highway - all of which had hammered their way into my body for the last eight hours - seemed to fall away like a someone who makes me uncomfortable in the ripples of that quiet voice. It seemed to float down the cool, dim hall. I had forgotten what a gentle voice he had.
"There are lots of obstacles to peace," the voice continued. "Before, people used to live in simple lifestyles. Simple food, simple clothes. Now it's more jealousy, more competition. Wealthy countries and children suffer because there is no meaning."
I felt embarrassed by the simplicity of his ideas. Was this going to turn out to be a discourse on the meaningful East versus the meaningless West?
He gave a big smile. "Disturbing emotions arise from the things we see, things we hear and things we taste. But these things have no reality. No reality."
The silence resounded in the hall. "What we mean by practice? Practice is to change the mind in positive way. In practice, we heal our own minds with a sense of clarity and brightness."
I would be watching the news on television if I were home at this time, I thought. There was something about my classmate's voice that was infinitely more soothing, more calm than any CNN announcer. As I sat there listening to him talk on the different types of consciousness, I suddenly felt like these were things I had always known. Yet he explained it with a freshness that could not be explained away by mere déjà vu. He put intuitive understanding into words so clear I could almost see it. That vague yearning that never left me - which I had attributed to my own restless and fickle nature - suddenly came back.
I had, in the scheme of both East and West, done pretty well for myself. I had graduated with a double degree in computer science and economics from an Ivy League college (the environmental science major had been chucked out of the window after my first year), fallen in love and married a beautiful woman, had a lovely child who attended one of the best schools, bought a house in one of the most exclusive neighborhoods in Palo Alto, and drove a Jaguar. I had felt so complete in my assurance about my own superiority - intellectual and material - in comparison to the least successful boy in class. But had I missed something I was not even aware of, I wondered. All those black holes of comprehension and yearnings for something otherworldly had not been filled by a spectacular rise in salary, or even an employee of the year award. Even that splashy exhibition of my paintings which acknowledged my inner artist and was attended by the edgy glitterati of NYC, had not been enough. Even the women I had slept with had not done anything to fill the vastness of the void.
"Compassion," Bigyan said. Then he coughed. The hall waited. "Compassion is something…" He stopped to search his memory for an appropriate word. "…intrinsic," he continued, smiling at his inadequate vocabulary - "to all sentient beings." That was the moment when I felt a peculiar feeling of awe and shame, a sudden awakening of neurons that flooded my body. Compassion, that overused word, was something I would never get to feel or understand, unless this was it - this flood of kindness that washed away my existential tiredness, my feelings of inadequacy that no matter how hard I tried it would still not be enough, the feeling that love would always elude me even when I was in the midst of it - and the gentleness I felt was for myself, for my own beliefs and assumptions, my own life. Bigyan, finally true to his name, had dissected life with the simple science of inner knowledge. And I, sitting in the corner with my own baggage, could only wait for him to finish so I could ask him some questions.
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I really don't know what the eff the deal is with north face. Is it a Greek thing now?
Has it ever not been a greek thing? (No.)
um, grown-ups wear them all the time, dumbass.
um, grown-ups can wear things that are also very prevalent among greeks on college campuses, dumbass. jesus mich.
North Face jackets were something before they were a "Greek Thing" and are still something bigger than a "Greek Thing". Also since so many of us on this board are wealthy professionals I don't know why a trend among Greeks is relevant.
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I have a Merrell jacket.
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The meditation hall, when I entered it, rustled with saffron and mauve robes. It was painted red and gold, like the monasteries of Nepal. The men and women both had shaved heads, and were counting their beads with various signs of attentiveness and devotion. I sidled down the crowded aisle and found myself a seat at one corner. Finally, a big gong went off. Bigyan, surrounded by a big entourage, walked briskly down the hall. He strode briskly down the hall while people rustled and bowed around him. I almost laughed out loud.
"Lets talk about peace," Bigyan said. I hid my grin behind a cupped palm. I was feeling revived. The microphone whined for a moment, and then went back to a normal level. "If water is left undisturbed, water remains clear and transparent." He gave a big smile, like he had just made a big statement. "So with our minds. To let the mind rest in a state of peace is Buddhist spiritual practice."
The whispers quieted down. For a moment, the hectic work-day, frantic buzz of the airport, the mad rush of the highway - all of which had hammered their way into my body for the last eight hours - seemed to fall away like a someone who makes me uncomfortable in the ripples of that quiet voice. It seemed to float down the cool, dim hall. I had forgotten what a gentle voice he had.
"There are lots of obstacles to peace," the voice continued. "Before, people used to live in simple lifestyles. Simple food, simple clothes. Now it's more jealousy, more competition. Wealthy countries and children suffer because there is no meaning."
I felt embarrassed by the simplicity of his ideas. Was this going to turn out to be a discourse on the meaningful East versus the meaningless West?
He gave a big smile. "Disturbing emotions arise from the things we see, things we hear and things we taste. But these things have no reality. No reality."
The silence resounded in the hall. "What we mean by practice? Practice is to change the mind in positive way. In practice, we heal our own minds with a sense of clarity and brightness."
I would be watching the news on television if I were home at this time, I thought. There was something about my classmate's voice that was infinitely more soothing, more calm than any CNN announcer. As I sat there listening to him talk on the different types of consciousness, I suddenly felt like these were things I had always known. Yet he explained it with a freshness that could not be explained away by mere déjà vu. He put intuitive understanding into words so clear I could almost see it. That vague yearning that never left me - which I had attributed to my own restless and fickle nature - suddenly came back.
I had, in the scheme of both East and West, done pretty well for myself. I had graduated with a double degree in computer science and economics from an Ivy League college (the environmental science major had been chucked out of the window after my first year), fallen in love and married a beautiful woman, had a lovely child who attended one of the best schools, bought a house in one of the most exclusive neighborhoods in Palo Alto, and drove a Jaguar. I had felt so complete in my assurance about my own superiority - intellectual and material - in comparison to the least successful boy in class. But had I missed something I was not even aware of, I wondered. All those black holes of comprehension and yearnings for something otherworldly had not been filled by a spectacular rise in salary, or even an employee of the year award. Even that splashy exhibition of my paintings which acknowledged my inner artist and was attended by the edgy glitterati of NYC, had not been enough. Even the women I had slept with had not done anything to fill the vastness of the void.
"Compassion," Bigyan said. Then he coughed. The hall waited. "Compassion is something…" He stopped to search his memory for an appropriate word. "…intrinsic," he continued, smiling at his inadequate vocabulary - "to all sentient beings." That was the moment when I felt a peculiar feeling of awe and shame, a sudden awakening of neurons that flooded my body. Compassion, that overused word, was something I would never get to feel or understand, unless this was it - this flood of kindness that washed away my existential tiredness, my feelings of inadequacy that no matter how hard I tried it would still not be enough, the feeling that love would always elude me even when I was in the midst of it - and the gentleness I felt was for myself, for my own beliefs and assumptions, my own life. Bigyan, finally true to his name, had dissected life with the simple science of inner knowledge. And I, sitting in the corner with my own baggage, could only wait for him to finish so I could ask him some questions.
Weird 677th post.
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weird thread all around.
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Such a weird thing to get angry about rusty.
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Such a weird thing to get angry about rusty.
He does this sometimes.
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I really don't know what the eff the deal is with north face. Is it a Greek thing now?
Has it ever not been a greek thing? (No.)
um, grown-ups wear them all the time, dumbass.
um, grown-ups can wear things that are also very prevalent among greeks on college campuses, dumbass. jesus mich.
North Face jackets were something before they were a "Greek Thing" and are still something bigger than a "Greek Thing". Also since so many of us on this board are wealthy professionals I don't know why a trend among Greeks is relevant.
I can confirm that North Face and Patagonia are long time staples of DoD flyaway kits for people deploying to war zones. I mean, they give you a list of outdoor gear to buy and a 1,500 limit and you go to Patagonia and just go to rough ridin' town. I bet BID also rocks a little of this:
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Team #BID, although I'm pretty sure those who are team #BID have made it abundantly clear on this board, in game chats, on Twitter etc. Also, don't own a North Face jacket. I could be swayed away from team #BID if we have a similar season to this one in Foster/Thomas's junior or senior seasons though. Those guys seem like they could be pretty good.
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They look pretty nice. Don't want one.
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Whoever just said "northface is a Greek thing" may actually be the most midwesterny person in the history of people and the midwest
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What team is “I don’t/didn’t want oscar because he’s going to do what he did at Illinois except without the elite success, but hooray because ksu is winning and lol at people who wanted oscar thinking that they get more pleasure out of ksu winning than I do”?
BiD
I'm on this team. There will be a few good years and I will enjoy them as much as anyone, but Weber's tenure will eventually end with him fired.
I wear a Mountain Hardwear jacket.
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Whoever just said "northface is a Greek thing" may actually be the most midwesterny person in the history of people and the midwest
Yeah, it's still blowing my mind
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What team is “I don’t/didn’t want oscar because he’s going to do what he did at Illinois except without the elite success, but hooray because ksu is winning and lol at people who wanted oscar thinking that they get more pleasure out of ksu winning than I do”?
BiD
I wear a Mountain Hardwear jacket.
Yeah!
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Whoever just said "northface is a Greek thing" may actually be the most midwesterny person in the history of people and the midwest
Yeah, it's still blowing my mind
if you deny that northface is very popular with greeks, i can only assume you haven't been on a college campus in at least 15 years.
they are a popular product overall, like 1/10 or 2/10 with students during colder months, but with greeks it's 8/10 or 9/10 (totally non-scientific). my dad loves northface too and he's 52, so obviously it's not a greek ONLY thing. what's mind blowing is that a few smart people are being intentionally obtuse about this.
everyone knows gato is a dumbass, and whatever he was trying to say with his northface comment was stupid.
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You may not be familiar with the time-sweepers. The time-sweepers are the people who sweep up all the time that is lost and wasted. You cannot see them, though if you are in the railway station and think you see something out of the corner of your eye, that will probably be a time-sweeper, cleaning up around the bench you are sitting on. If you were to see them, you would find a small, bluish person with an intent expression, clutching a broom and a mop. The men wear overalls, the women old-fashioned tweed skirts and scarves on their head.
The time-sweepers are present wherever time is being lost or wasted. There are always several in train stations, and at least one in every doctors surgery. The man who has waited so long to propose to his girlfriend that her hair has gone grey, probably has his own personal time-sweeper following him around. The woman who has spent thirty-five loathed years in an estate agents, dreaming of opening a florists, causes the neighbourhood time-sweeper to sigh, and fetch a bigger dustpan.
You should not feel sorry for the time-sweepers, though their work is menial: they are never sick, do not worry that they are in the wrong career, and have excellent working conditions, though what they do for leisure is unknown. They enjoy bank holidays off, which is why, on these days, there seems so much more time than usual. At Christmas and new year, the time-sweepers have a week's holiday. When they return to work in January, they face a vast backlog of time which has been lost, wasted and thrown away over the holidays. It takes them around three weeks to resume normal service, which is why January always seems to last longer than other months.
The time-sweepers have been around forever, though modern life has created wasted time in such large concentrations that in some places the time-sweepers have been forced to industrialise their operations, buying a number of specialised compressing lorries similar to those used by ordinary bin-men. They use these for the largest collections, at prisons and shopping malls, two venues where the tide of wasted time threatens to swamp even the most dedicated operatives.
Were you to ask a time-sweeper, they would tell you one surprising thing: time enjoyed is never time wasted. Cleaning up in a large office full of staggering tedium, the time-sweeper will pass straight by the desk of the woman who is reading a holiday catalogue under the desk, poring over photos of tropical beaches. They will pass by the next desk, where a man is enjoyably wondering what his mother-in-law looks like naked, and stop by the desk of the young man who is counting every minute, and loathing the hours.
You may wonder what happens to the wasted time after it has all been cleaned up. Never fear, the time-sweepers are ardent recyclers. It is collected, packed into large containers, moved to Liverpool docks, loaded onto a ship, and taken to India. There, in a dusty industrial estate somewhere near Bombay, it is cleaned, sorted, and graded. The most toxic and poisoned time – the residues of failed peace negotiations, wrongful imprisonments and truly poisonous marriages, is skimmed off and buried in a tank underneath a disused army base. There, it will take two or three centuries to decay, and become harmless again.
The rest of the time – made up of stuff such as dull meetings, missed appointments, delayed buses and bad nights at the theatre, is cleaned and put back onto a ship, where it is taken to the Guangzhou industrial export processing zone. Here it is compressed and stored, awaiting redistribution. Around twenty percent goes direct to the factories of the export processing zone, which has the world's highest productivity rate. A quarter is bought in hard dollars by the Chinese government. Ten percent of the most concentrated stuff is sold to a cryogenics laboratory in California. Another twenty or so percent is discreetly sold to a variety of rich private clients, mostly old, rich men who have married beautiful young women.
However, the time-sweepers are not in it for profit. The money from these deals pays for their operations, including dusters, bin-bags, overalls and shipping. The rest is distributed to good causes. No-one who gets any extra time has to fill in any forms, or ask for a grant. They are all quite unaware that they are in receipt of assistance. One of these beneficiaries is a shabby and overtired scientist in a crumbling public laboratory outside Novosibirsk, who will be the man to find the vaccine for malaria. Another is a prostitute in a Nairobi slum who has fostered seventeen children, and who, despite twenty years in the business, never falls ill. A third is the Indian taxi-driver in a cramped flat in Toronto, who, in between sending money home to a sick wife and children, is writing what will later be acknowledged as the greatest novel of the century.
Not all the recipients of the time-sweepers' largesse are people. About forty miles outside Timbuktu, a medieval mosque, buried in sand, receives a delivery every decade or so. Somewhere below the floor in the Aegean sea, a Trojan galley is miraculously preserved in mud. Similarly, the time-sweepers gift a little extra time to a temple in Mexico, and preserve a haul of dark-age treasure in a Galway bog.
A certain amount of charitable time is kept back for emergency situations, both small and large. It is parachuted in in times of desperation, and has facilitated peace deals, changed battles, and allowed numerous fathers to make it to the delivery room in time.
The time-sweepers are, by their very nature, a tidy and orderly sort of people. They wish that humans would think more about throwing away this valuable commodity, but don't expect it'll happen any time soon.
There isn't a moral to this story. It's just that if you are planning on throwing away your time, please remember - somebody has to pick it up.
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You alright J?
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fantastic thread. great posting, j.
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It was a chilly November afternoon. I had just consummated an unusually hearty dinner, of which the dyspeptic truffe formed not the least important item, and was sitting alone in the dining-room with my feet upon the fender and at my elbow a small table which I had rolled up to the fire, and upon which were some apologies for dessert, with some miscellaneous bottles of wine, spirit, and liqueur. In the morning I had been reading Glover's Leonidas, Wilkie's Epigoniad, Lamartine's Pilgrimage, Barlow's Columbiad, Tuckerman's Sicily, and Griswold's Curiosities, I am willing to confess, therefore, that I now felt a little stupid. I made effort to arouse myself by frequent aid of Lafitte, and all failing, I betook myself to a stray newspaper in despair. Having carefully perused the column of "Houses to let," and the column of "Dogs lost," and then the columns of "Wives and apprentices runaway," I attacked with great resolution the editorial matter, and reading it from beginning to end without understanding a syllable, conceived the possibility of its being Chinese, and so re-read it from the end to the beginning, but with no more satisfactory result. I was about throwing away in disgust
This folio of four pages, happy work Which not even critics criticise,
when I felt my attention somewhat aroused by the paragraph which follows:
"The avenues to death are numerous and strange. A London paper mentions the decease of a person from a singular cause. He was playing at 'puff the dart,' which is played with a long needle inserted in some worsted, and blown at a target through a tin tube. He placed the needle at the wrong end of the tube, and drawing his breath strongly to puff the dart forward with force, drew the needle into his throat. It entered the lungs, and in a few days killed him."
Upon seeing this I fell into a great rage, without exactly knowing why. "This thing," I exclaimed, "is a contemptible falsehood--a poor hoax--the lees of the invention of some pitiable penny-a-liner, of some wretched concocter of accidents in Cocaigne. These fellows knowing the extravagant gullibility of the age set their wits to work in the imagination of improbable possibilities, of odd accidents as they term them, but to a reflecting intellect (like mine, I added, in parenthesis, putting my forefinger unconsciously to the side of my nose), to a contemplative understanding such as I myself possess, it seems evident at once that the marvelous increase of late in these 'odd accidents' is by far the oddest accident of all. For my own part, I intend to believe nothing henceforward that has anything of the 'singular' about it."
"Mein Gott, den, vat a vool you bees for dat!" replied one of the most remarkable voices I ever heard. At first I took it for a rumbling in my ears--such as a man sometimes experiences when getting very drunk--but upon second thought, I considered the sound as more nearly resembling that which proceeds from an empty barrel beaten with a big stick; and, in fact, this I should have concluded it to be, but for the articulation of the syllables and words. I am by no means naturally nervous, and the very few glasses of Lafitte which I had sipped served to embolden me a little, so that I felt nothing of trepidation, but merely uplifted my eyes with a leisurely movement and looked carefully around the room for the intruder. I could not, however, perceive any one at all.
"Humph!" resumed the voice as I continued my survey, "you mus pe so dronk as de pig den for not zee me as I zit here at your zide."
Hereupon I bethought me of looking immediately before my nose, and there, sure enough, confronting me at the table sat a personage nondescript, although not altogether indescribable. His body was a wine-pipe or a rum puncheon, or something of that character, and had a truly Falstaffian air. In its nether extremity were inserted two kegs, which seemed to answer all the purposes of legs. For arms there dangled from the upper portion of the carcass two tolerably long bottles with the necks outward for hands. All the head that I saw the monster possessed of was one of those Hessian canteens which resemble a large snuff-box with a hole in the middle of the lid. This canteen (with a funnel on its top like a cavalier cap slouched over the eyes) was set on edge upon the puncheon, with the hole toward myself; and through this hole, which seemed puckered up like the mouth of a very precise old maid, the creature was emitting certain rumbling and grumbling noises which he evidently intended for intelligible talk.
"I zay," said he, "you mos pe dronk as de pig, vor zit dare and not zee me zit ere; and I zay, doo, you mos pe pigger vool as de goose, vor to dispelief vat iz print in de print. 'Tiz de troof--dat it iz--ebery vord ob it."
"Who are you, pray?" said I with much dignity, although somewhat puzzled; "how did you get here? and what is it you are talking about?"
"As vor ow I com'd ere," replied the figure, "dat iz none of your pizziness; and as vor vat I be talking apout, I be talk apout vat I tink proper; and as vor who I be, vy dat is de very ting I com'd here for to let you zee for yourself."
"You are a drunken vagabond," said I, "and I shall ring the bell and order my footman to kick you into the street."
"He! he! he!" said the fellow, "hu! hu! hu! dat you can't do."
"Can't do!" said I, "what do you mean? I can't do what?"
"Ring de pell," he replied, attempting a grin with his little villainous mouth.
Upon this I made an effort to get up in order to put my threat into execution, but the ruffian just reached across the table very deliberately, and hitting me a tap on the forehead with the neck of one of the long bottles, knocked me back into the armchair from which I had half arisen. I was utterly astounded, and for a moment was quite at a loss what to do. In the meantime he continued his talk.
"You zee," said he, "it iz te bess vor zit still; and now you shall know who I pe. Look at me! zee! I am te Angel ov te Odd."
"And odd enough, too," I ventured to reply; "but I was always under the impression that an angel had wings."
"Te wing!" he cried, highly incensed, "vat I pe do mit te wing? Mein Gott! do you take me for a shicken?"
"No--oh, no!" I replied, much alarmed; "you are no chicken--certainly not."
"Well, den, zit still and pehabe yourself, or I'll rap you again mid me vist. It iz te shicken ab te wing, und te owl ab te wing, und te imp ab te wing, und te head-teuffel ab te wing. Te angel ab not te wing, and I am te Angel ov te Odd."
"And your business with me at present is--is----"
"My pizziness!" ejaculated the thing, "vy vat a low-bred puppy you mos pe vor to ask a gentleman und an angel apout his pizziness!"
This language was rather more than I could bear, even from an angel; so, plucking up courage, I seized a salt-cellar which lay within reach, and hurled it at the head of the intruder. Either he dodged, however, or my aim was inaccurate; for all I accomplished was the demolition of the crystal which protected the dial of the clock upon the mantelpiece. As for the Angel, he evinced his sense of my assault by giving me two or three hard, consecutive raps upon the forehead as before. These reduced me at once to submission, and I am almost ashamed to confess that, either through pain or vexation, there came a few tears into my eyes.
"Mein Gott!" said the Angel of the Odd, apparently much softened at my distress; "mein Gott, te man is eder ferry dronk or ferry zorry. You mos not trink it so strong--you mos put te water in te wine. Here, trink dis, like a good veller, and don't gry now--don't!"
Hereupon the Angel of the Odd replenished my goblet (which was about a third full of port) with a colorless fluid that he poured from one of his hand-bottles. I observed that these bottles had labels about their necks, and that these labels were inscribed "Kirschenwaesser."
The considerate kindness of the Angel mollified me in no little measure; and, aided by the water with which he diluted my port more than once, I at length regained sufficient temper to listen to his very extraordinary discourse. I cannot pretend to recount all that he told me, but I gleaned from what he said that he was a genius who presided over the contretemps of mankind, and whose business it was to bring about the odd accidents which are continually astonishing the skeptic. Once or twice, upon my venturing to express my total incredulity in respect to his pretensions, he grew very angry indeed, so that at length I considered it the wiser policy to say nothing at all, and let him have his own way. He talked on, therefore, at great length, while I merely leaned back in my chair with my eyes shut, and amused myself with munching raisins and filiping the stems about the room. But, by and by, the Angel suddenly construed this behavior of mine into contempt. He arose in a terrible passion, slouched his funnel down over his eyes, swore a vast oath, uttered a threat of some character, which I did not precisely comprehend, and finally made me a low bow and departed, wishing me, in the language of the archbishop in "Gil Bias," beaucoup de bonheur et un peu plus de bon sens.
His departure afforded me relief. The very few glasses of Lafitte that I had sipped had the effect of rendering me drowsy, and I felt inclined to take a nap of some fifteen or twenty minutes, as is my custom after dinner. At six I had an appointment of consequence, which it was quite indispensable that I should keep. The policy of insurance for my dwelling-house had expired the day before; and some dispute having arisen it was agreed that, at six, I should meet the board of directors of the company and settle the terms of a renewal. Glancing upward at the clock on the mantelpiece (for I felt too drowsy to take out my watch), I had the pleasure to find that I had still twenty-five minutes to spare. It was half-past five; I could easily walk to the insurance office in five minutes; and my usual siestas had never been known to exceed five-and-twenty. I felt sufficiently safe, therefore, and composed myself to my slumbers forthwith.
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Having completed them to my satisfaction, I again looked toward the timepiece, and was half inclined to believe in the possibility of odd accidents when I found that, instead of my ordinary fifteen or twenty minutes, I had been dozing only three; for it still wanted seven-and-twenty of the appointed hour. I betook myself again to my nap, and at length a second time awoke, when, to my utter amazement, it still wanted twenty-seven minutes of six. I jumped up to examine the clock, and found that it had ceased running. My watch informed me that it was half-past seven; and, of course, having slept two hours, I was too late for my appointment. "It will make no difference," I said: "I can call at the office in the morning and apologize; in the meantime what can be the matter with the clock?" Upon examining it I discovered that one of the raisin stems which I had been filiping about the room during the discourse of the Angel of the Odd had flown through the fractured crystal, and lodging, singularly enough, in the keyhole, with an end projecting outward, had thus arrested the revolution of the minute hand.
"Ah!" said I, "I see how it is. This thing speaks for itself. A natural accident, such as will happen now and then!"
I gave the matter no further consideration, and at my usual hour retired to bed. Here, having placed a candle upon a reading stand at the bed head, and having made an attempt to peruse some pages of the Omnipresence of the Deity, I unfortunately fell asleep in less than twenty seconds, leaving the light burning as it was.
My dreams were terrifically disturbed by visions of the Angel of the Odd. Methought he stood at the foot of the couch, drew aside the curtains, and in the hollow, detestable tones of a rum puncheon, menaced me with the bitterest vengeance for the contempt with which I had treated him. He concluded a long harangue by taking off his funnel-cap, inserting the tube into my gullet, and thus deluging me with an ocean of Kirschenwaesser, which he poured in a continuous flood, from one of the long-necked bottles that stood him instead of an arm. My agony was at length insufferable, and I awoke just in time to perceive that a rat had run off with the lighted candle from the stand, but not in season to prevent his making his escape with it through the hole, Very soon a strong, suffocating odor assailed my nostrils; the house, I clearly perceived, was on fire. In a few minutes the blaze broke forth with violence, and in an incredibly brief period the entire building was wrapped in flames. All egress from my chamber, except through a window, was cut off. The crowd, however, quickly procured and raised a long ladder. By means of this I was descending rapidly, and in apparent safety, when a huge hog, about whose rotund stomach, and indeed about whose whole air and physiognomy, there was something which reminded me of the Angel of the Odd--when this hog, I say, which hitherto had been quietly slumbering in the mud, took it suddenly into his head that his left shoulder needed scratching, and could find no more convenient rubbing-post than that afforded by the foot of the ladder. In an instant I was precipitated, and had the misfortune to fracture my arm.
This accident, with the loss of my insurance, and with the more serious loss of my hair, the whole of which had been singed off by the fire, predisposed me to serious impressions, so that finally I made up my mind to take a wife. There was a rich widow disconsolate for the loss of her seventh husband, and to her wounded spirit I offered the balm of my vows. She yielded a reluctant consent to my prayers. I knelt at her feet in gratitude and adoration. She blushed and bowed her luxuriant tresses into close contact with those supplied me temporarily by Grandjean. I know not how the entanglement took place but so it was. I arose with a shining pate, wigless; she in disdain and wrath, half-buried in alien hair. Thus ended my hopes of the widow by an accident which could not have been anticipated, to be sure, but which the natural sequence of events had brought about.
Without despairing, however, I undertook the siege of a less implacable heart. The fates were again propitious for a brief period, but again a trivial incident interfered. Meeting my betrothed in an avenue thronged with the elite of the city, I was hastening to greet her with one of my best considered bows, when a small particle of some foreign matter lodging in the corner of my eye rendered me for the moment completely blind. Before I could recover my sight, the lady of my love had disappeared--irreparably affronted at what she chose to consider my premeditated rudeness in passing her by ungreeted. While I stood bewildered at the suddenness of this accident (which might have happened, nevertheless, to any one under the sun), and while I still continued incapable of sight, I was accosted by the Angel of the Odd, who proffered me his aid with a civility which I had no reason to expect. He examined my disordered eye with much gentleness and skill, informed me that I had a drop in it, and (whatever a "drop" was) took it out, and afforded me relief.
I now considered it high time to die (since fortune had so determined to persecute me), and accordingly made my way to the nearest river. Here, divesting myself of my clothes (for there is no reason why we cannot die as we were born), I threw myself headlong into the current; the sole witness of my fate being a solitary crow that had been seduced into the eating of brandy-saturated corn, and so had staggered away from his fellows. No sooner had I entered the water than this bird took it into his head to fly away with the most indispensable portion of my apparel. Postponing, therefore, for the present, my suicidal design, I just slipped my nether extremities into the sleeves of my coat, and betook myself to a pursuit of the felon with all the nimbleness which the case required and its circumstances would admit. But my evil destiny attended me still. As I ran at full speed, with my nose up in the atmosphere, and intent only upon the purloiner of my property, I suddenly perceived that my feet rested no longer upon terra firma; the fact is, I had thrown myself over a precipice, and should inevitably have been dashed to pieces but for my good fortune in grasping the end of a long guide-rope, which depended from a passing balloon.
As soon as I sufficiently recovered my senses to comprehend the terrific predicament in which I stood, or rather hung, I exerted all the power of my lungs to make that predicament known to the aeronaut overhead. But for a long time I exerted myself in vain. Either the fool could not, or the villain would not perceive me. Meanwhile the machine rapidly soared, while my strength even more rapidly failed. I was soon upon the point of resigning myself to my fate, and dropping quietly into the sea, when my spirits were suddenly revived by hearing a hollow voice from above, which seemed to be lazily humming an opera air. Looking up, I perceived the Angel of the Odd. He was leaning, with his arms folded, over the rim of the car; and with a pipe in his mouth, at which he puffed leisurely, seemed to be upon excellent terms with himself and the universe. I was too much exhausted to speak, so I merely regarded him with an imploring air.
For several minutes, although he looked me full in the face, he said nothing. At length, removing carefully his meerschaum from the right to the left corner of his mouth, he condescended to speak.
"Who pe you," he asked, "und what der teuffel you pe do dare?"
To this piece of impudence, cruelty, and affectation, I could reply only by ejaculating the monosyllable "Help!"
"Elp!" echoed the ruffian, "not I. Dare iz te pottle--elp yourself, und pe tam'd!"
With these words he let fall a heavy bottle of Kirschenwaesser, which, dropping precisely upon the crown of my head, caused me to imagine that my brains were entirely knocked out. Impressed with this idea I was about to relinquish my hold and give up the ghost with a good grace, when I was arrested by the cry of the Angel, who bade me hold on.
"'Old on!" he said: "don't pe in te 'urry--don't. Will you pe take de odder pottle, or 'ave you pe got zober yet, and come to your zenzes?"
I made haste, hereupon, to nod my head twice--once in the negative, meaning thereby that I would prefer not taking the other bottle at present; and once in the affirmative, intending thus to imply that I was sober and had positively come to my senses. By these means I somewhat softened the Angel.
"Und you pelief, ten," he inquired, "at te last? You pelief, ten, in te possibility of te odd?"
I again nodded my head in assent.
"Und you ave pelief in me, te Angel of te Odd?"
I nodded again.
"Und you acknowledge tat you pe te blind dronk und te vool?"
I nodded once more.
"Put your right hand into your left preeches pocket, ten, in token ov your vull zubmizzion unto te Angel ov te Odd."
This thing, for very obvious reasons, I found it quite impossible to do. In the first place, my left arm had been broken in my fall from the ladder, and therefore, had I let go my hold with the right hand I must have let go altogether. In the second place, I could have no breeches until I came across the crow. I was therefore obliged, much to my regret, to shake my head in the negative, intending thus to give the Angel to understand that I found it inconvenient, just at that moment, to comply with his very reasonable demand! No sooner, however, had I ceased shaking my head than--
"Go to der teuffel, ten!" roared the Angel of the Odd.
In pronouncing these words he drew a sharp knife across the guide-rope by which I was suspended, and as we then happened to be precisely over my own house (which, during my peregrinations, had been handsomely rebuilt), it so occurred that I tumbled headlong down the ample chimney and alit upon the dining-room hearth.
Upon coming to my senses (for the fall had very thoroughly stunned me) I found it about four o'clock in the morning. I lay outstretched where I had fallen from the balloon. My head groveled in the ashes of an extinguished fire, while my feet reposed upon the wreck of a small table, overthrown, and amid the fragments of a miscellaneous dessert, intermingled with a newspaper, some broken glasses and shattered bottles, and an empty jug of the Schiedam Kirschenwaesser. Thus revenged himself the Angel of the Odd.
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I don't really know what's going on here, but I can guarantee you that no one is reading your posts, J. So if you're putting a lot of work into them I wouldn't. If you're copying and pasting them, well, it sounds like you have a very boring day on your hands.
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I don't really know what's going on here, but I can guarantee you that no one is reading your posts, J. So if you're putting a lot of work into them I wouldn't. If you're copying and pasting them, well, it sounds like you have a very boring day on your hands.
He had seen better days, despite his present misery and infirmities.
At the age of fifteen both his legs had been crushed by a carriage on the Varville highway. From that time forth he begged, dragging himself along the roads and through the farmyards, supported by crutches which forced his shoulders up to his ears. His head looked as if it were squeezed in between two mountains.
A foundling, picked up out of a ditch by the priest of Les Billettes on the eve of All Saints' Day and baptized, for that reason, Nicholas Toussaint, reared by charity, utterly without education, crippled in consequence of having drunk several glasses of brandy given him by the baker (such a funny story!) and a vagabond all his life afterward--the only thing he knew how to do was to hold out his hand for alms.
At one time the Baroness d'Avary allowed him to sleep in a kind of recess spread with straw, close to the poultry yard in the farm adjoining the chateau, and if he was in great need he was sure of getting a glass of cider and a crust of bread in the kitchen. Moreover, the old lady often threw him a few pennies from her window. But she was dead now.
In the villages people gave him scarcely anything--he was too well known. Everybody had grown tired of seeing him, day after day for forty years, dragging his deformed and tattered person from door to door on his wooden crutches. But he could not make up his mind to go elsewhere, because he knew no place on earth but this particular corner of the country, these three or four villages where he had spent the whole of his miserable existence. He had limited his begging operations and would not for worlds have passed his accustomed bounds.
He did not even know whether the world extended for any distance beyond the trees which had always bounded his vision. He did not ask himself the question. And when the peasants, tired of constantly meeting him in their fields or along their lanes, exclaimed: "Why don't you go to other villages instead of always limping about here?" he did not answer, but slunk away, possessed with a vague dread of the unknown--the dread of a poor wretch who fears confusedly a thousand things--new faces, taunts, insults, the suspicious glances of people who do not know him and the policemen walking in couples on the roads. These last he always instinctively avoided, taking refuge in the bushes or behind heaps of stones when he saw them coming.
When he perceived them in the distance, 'With uniforms gleaming in the sun, he was suddenly possessed with unwonted agility--the agility of a wild animal seeking its lair. He threw aside his crutches, fell to the ground like a limp rag, made himself as small as possible and crouched like a bare under cover, his tattered vestments blending in hue with the earth on which he cowered.
He had never had any trouble with the police, but the instinct to avoid them was in his blood. He seemed to have inherited it from the parents he had never known.
He had no refuge, no roof for his head, no shelter of any kind. In summer he slept out of doors and in winter he showed remarkable skill in slipping unperceived into barns and stables. He always decamped before his presence could be discovered. He knew all the holes through which one could creep into farm buildings, and the handling of his crutches having made his arms surprisingly muscular he often hauled himself up through sheer strength of wrist into hay-lofts, where he sometimes remained for four or five days at a time, provided he had collected a sufficient store of food beforehand.
He lived like the beasts of the field. He was in the midst of men, yet knew no one, loved no one, exciting in the breasts of the peasants only a sort of careless contempt and smoldering hostility. They nicknamed him "Bell," because he hung between his two crutches like a church bell between its supports.
For two days he had eaten nothing. No one gave him anything now. Every one's patience was exhausted. Women shouted to him from their doorsteps when they saw him coming:
"Be off with you, you good-for-nothing vagabond! Why, I gave you a piece of bread only three days ago!
And he turned on his crutches to the next house, where he was received in the same fashion.
The women declared to one another as they stood at their doors:
"We can't feed that lazy brute all the year round!"
And yet the "lazy brute" needed food every day.
He had exhausted Saint-Hilaire, Varville and Les Billettes without getting a single copper or so much as a dry crust. His only hope was in Tournolles, but to reach this place he would have to walk five miles along the highroad, and he felt so weary that he could hardly drag himself another yard. His stomach and his pocket were equally empty, but he started on his way.
It was December and a cold wind blew over the fields and whistled through the bare branches of the trees; the clouds careered madly across the black, threatening sky. The cripple dragged himself slowly along, raising one crutch after the other with a painful effort, propping himself on the one distorted leg which remained to him.
Now and then he sat down beside a ditch for a few moments' rest. Hunger was gnawing his vitals, and in his confused, slow-working mind he had only one idea-to eat-but how this was to be accomplished he did not know. For three hours he continued his painful journey. Then at last the sight of the trees of the village inspired him with new energy.
The first peasant he met, and of whom he asked alms, replied:
"So it's you again, is it, you old scamp? Shall I never be rid of you?"
And "Bell" went on his way. At every door he got nothing but hard words. He made the round of the whole village, but received not a halfpenny for his pains.
Then he visited the neighboring farms, toiling through the muddy land, so exhausted that he could hardly raise his crutches from the ground. He met with the same reception everywhere. It was one of those cold, bleak days, when the heart is frozen and the temper irritable, and hands do not open either to give money or food.
When he had visited all the houses he knew, "Bell" sank down in the corner of a ditch running across Chiquet's farmyard. Letting his crutches slip to the ground, he remained motionless, tortured by hunger, but hardly intelligent enough to realize to the full his unutterable misery.
He awaited he knew not what, possessed with that vague hope which persists in the human heart in spite of everything. He awaited in the corner of the farmyard in the biting December wind, some mysterious aid from Heaven or from men, without the least idea whence it was to arrive. A number of black hens ran hither and thither, seeking their food in the earth which supports all living things. Ever now and then they snapped up in their beaks a grain of corn or a tiny insect; then they continued their slow, sure search for nutriment.
"Bell" watched them at first without thinking of anything. Then a thought occurred rather to his stomach than to his mind--the thought that one of those fowls would be good to eat if it were cooked over a fire of dead wood.
He did not reflect that he was going to commit a theft. He took up a stone which lay within reach, and, being of skillful aim, killed at the first shot the fowl nearest to him. The bird fell on its side, flapping its wings. The others fled wildly hither and thither, and "Bell," picking up his crutches, limped across to where his victim lay.
Just as he reached the little black body with its crimsoned head he received a violent blow in his back which made him let go his hold of his crutches and sent him flying ten paces distant. And Farmer Chiquet, beside himself with rage, cuffed and kicked the marauder with all the fury of a plundered peasant as "Bell" lay defenceless before him.
The farm hands came up also and joined their master in cuffing the lame beggar. Then when they were tired of beating him they carried him off and shut him up in the woodshed, while they went to fetch the police.
"Bell," half dead, bleeding and perishing with hunger, lay on the floor. Evening came--then night--then dawn. And still he had not eaten.
About midday the police arrived. They opened the door of the woodshed with the utmost precaution, fearing resistance on the beggar's part, for Farmer Chiquet asserted that he had been attacked by him and had had great, difficulty in defending himself.
The sergeant cried:
"Come, get up!"
But "Bell" could not move. He did his best to raise himself on his crutches, but without success. The police, thinking his weakness feigned, pulled him up by main force and set him between the crutches.
Fear seized him--his native fear of a uniform, the fear of the game in presence of the sportsman, the fear of a mouse for a cat-and by the exercise of almost superhuman effort he succeeded in remaining upright.
"Forward!" said the sergeant. He walked. All the inmates of the farm watched his departure. The women shook their fists at him the men scoffed at and insulted him. He was taken at last! Good riddance! He went off between his two guards. He mustered sufficient energy--the energy of despair--to drag himself along until the evening, too dazed to know what was happening to him, too frightened to understand.
People whom he met on the road stopped to watch him go by and peasants muttered:
"It's some thief or other."
Toward evening he reached the country town. He had never been so far before. He did not realize in the least what he was there for or what was to become of him. All the terrible and unexpected events of the last two days, all these unfamiliar faces and houses struck dismay into his heart.
He said not a word, having nothing to say because he understood nothing. Besides, he had spoken to no one for so many years past that he had almost lost the use of his tongue, and his thoughts were too indeterminate to be put into words.
He was shut up in the town jail. It did not occur to the police that he might need food, and he was left alone until the following day. But when in the early morning they came to examine him he was found dead on the floor. Such an astonishing thing!
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what on earth
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Does J stand for John Cage?
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"joint"
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J is Guy de MauPassant.....
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Wow.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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I don't really know what's going on here, but I can guarantee you that no one is reading your posts, J. So if you're putting a lot of work into them I wouldn't. If you're copying and pasting them, well, it sounds like you have a very boring day on your hands.
yeah, either way, its a waste.
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I have some Cage:
On Christmas Day,
Mother said,
“I’ve
listened to your record several
times.
After
hearing all those stories about
your childhood,
I keep asking
myself,
‘Where
was it that I failed?’ ”
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might want to merge this stuff with how to keep guns away from crazy people thread.
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JOHN CAGE :excited:
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J just passed jeans the cat to become my new 3rd favorite novelty poster, behind PW and Kornheiser.
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:D
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J using a classic (albeit sparsely used) 42 thread-killing technique. Well done, J.
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Brassica napobrassica has many national and regional names used globally. Rutabaga is the common American and Canadian term for the plant. It comes from the old Swedish word Rotabagge, meaning simply "root ram". In the U.S., the plant is also known as Swedish turnip or yellow turnip. The term Swede is used instead of rutabaga in many Commonwealth Nations, including England, Wales, Australia, and New Zealand. The name turnip is also used in parts of Northern and Midland England, the Westcountry, particularly Cornwall, Ireland, Ontario and Atlantic Canada. In Scots, it is known as turnip, tumshie or neep (from Old English næp, Latin napus).[2] Some areas of south east Scotland, such as Berwickshire and Roxburghshire, still use the term baigie, possibly a derivative of the original Swedish rutabaga.[3] The term turnip is also utilized in southern English usage.[where?][2][4] Some will also refer to both types as just turnip (the word is also derived from næp).[who?][4] In North-East England, turnips and swedes are colloquially called snadgers, snaggers (archaic) or narkies.[citation needed]
Its common name in Sweden is kålrot (literally "cabbage root"). Similarly, in Denmark it is known as kålroe, while in Norway it has usurped the name of kålrabi in addition to being known as kålrot. The Finnish term is lanttu. Rutabaga is known as Steckrübe in German and it was considered mainly a famine food. Boiled stew with rutabaga and water as the only ingredient (Steckrübeneintopf) was a typical German food during the famines and food shortages of World War II, as well the following years. As a result, many older Germans don't have fond memories regarding this emergency food, though the rutabaga is still eaten in parts of Northern Germany. Most Germans prefer to use the related kohlrabi (German turnip) instead.
The first known printed reference to the rutabaga comes from the Swiss botanist Gaspard Bauhin in 1620, where he notes that it was growing wild in Sweden. It is often considered to have originated from Scandinavia or Russia.[5] It is said to have been widely introduced to Britain around the end of the 18th century, but it was recorded as being present in the royal gardens in England as early as 1669 and was described in France in 1700. It was asserted by Sir John Sinclair in his Husbandry of Scotland to have been introduced to Scotland around 1781–1782. An article on the topic in The Gardeners' Chronicle suggests that the rutabaga was then introduced more widely to England in 1790. Introduction to North America came in the early 19th century with reports of planted rutabaga crops in Illinois as early as 1817.[6]
[edit]Botanical history
The species commonly known as swede or rutabaga has had a rich taxonomic history. The earliest account comes from the Swiss botanist Gaspard Bauhin, who wrote about it in his 1620 Prodromus.[6] Brassica napobrassica was first validly published by Carl Linnaeus in his 1753 work Species Plantarum as a variety of B. oleracea: B. oleracea var. napobrassica.[7] It has since been moved to other taxa as a variety, subspecies, or elevated to species rank. In 1768, a Scottish botanist elevated Linnaeus' variety to species rank as Brassica napobrassica in The Gardeners Dictionary, which is the currently accepted name.[8]
Rutabagas have a diploid chromosome number of 2n = 38. It originated from a cross between turnips (Brassica rapa) and Brassica oleracea. The resulting cross then doubled its chromosomes, becoming an allopolyploid species. This relationship was first published by Woo Jang-choon in 1935 and is known as the Triangle of U.[9]
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Jokes about North Faces and Greeks are very 2007
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rutabaga. my goodness.
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This season has completely gone to our script so far.
:flush:
I'm curious as to what the script would have looked like with Frank still here? I mean aside from the normal franked players and Frankuary of course.
It would look a lot like it does now, except more ESPN, and less fear for the future. Also, more people at the games.
yep
So really it comes down to missing the entertainment factor that was Frank on the sidelines rather than the product on the floor. I'm cool with that.
the product on the floor would be the exact same, dork.
Umm, no it's not. Different philosophy offensively and in rebounding has altered that somewhat. Do you watch basketball?
same stud players doing stud things, getting buckets and wins. has nothing to do with a coach or philosophy. dork.
OKCat - you can't really be that dumb can you?
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Still here, [redacted].
Even if we're just as good this year with oscar as we would've been with Frank, dumbass OP and Gunnar have to admit a few things:
1) We're getting about 1/4th the national exposure now that we would have with Frank
2) This isn't nearly as much fun
3) The BBSing is absolutely terrible by comparo.
So yeah, pretty much we have been right all along about everything so far.
we've got about 3 more wins than we'd have had with Frank - don't let your stubborness continue to make you sound foolish
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I really don't know what the eff the deal is with north face. Is it a Greek thing now?
Has it ever not been a greek thing? (No.)
um, grown-ups wear them all the time, dumbass.
would this explain why you don't wear one?
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I really don't know what the eff the deal is with north face. Is it a Greek thing now?
Has it ever not been a greek thing? (No.)
um, grown-ups wear them all the time, dumbass.
would this explain why you don't wear one?
:surprised:
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I really don't know what the eff the deal is with north face. Is it a Greek thing now?
Has it ever not been a greek thing? (No.)
um, grown-ups wear them all the time, dumbass.
would this explain why you don't wear one?
burned michigancat down
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I really don't know what the eff the deal is with north face. Is it a Greek thing now?
Has it ever not been a greek thing? (No.)
um, grown-ups wear them all the time, dumbass.
would this explain why you don't wear one?
burned michigancat down
yeah. :frown:
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Still here, [redacted].
Even if we're just as good this year with oscar as we would've been with Frank, dumbass OP and Gunnar have to admit a few things:
1) We're getting about 1/4th the national exposure now that we would have with Frank
2) This isn't nearly as much fun
3) The BBSing is absolutely terrible by comparo.
So yeah, pretty much we have been right all along about everything so far.
we've got about 3 more wins than we'd have had with Frank - don't let your stubborness continue to make you sound foolish
Doesn't matter, still not nearly as fun.
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Still here, [redacted].
Even if we're just as good this year with oscar as we would've been with Frank, dumbass OP and Gunnar have to admit a few things:
By1) We're getting about 1/4th the national exposure now that we would have with Frank
2) This isn't nearly as much fun
3) The BBSing is absolutely terrible by comparo.
So yeah, pretty much we have been right all along about everything so far.
we've got about 3 more wins than we'd have had with Frank - don't let your stubborness continue to make you sound foolish
No, we would be undefeated with frank. Don't let your McCarthyism continue to make allegations with no support.
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The BBSing is so much more fun since Frank. But, seriously, LOL at Frank ever competing for a conference chmpionship.
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VANKA ZHUKOV, a boy of nine, who had been for three months apprenticed to Alyahin the shoemaker, was sitting up on Christmas Eve. Waiting till his master and mistress and their workmen had gone to the midnight service, he took out of his master's cupboard a bottle of ink and a pen with a rusty nib, and, spreading out a crumpled sheet of paper in front of him, began writing. Before forming the first letter he several times looked round fearfully at the door and the windows, stole a glance at the dark ikon, on both sides of which stretched shelves full of lasts, and heaved a broken sigh. The paper lay on the bench while he knelt before it.
"Dear grandfather, Konstantin Makaritch," he wrote, "I am writing you a letter. I wish you a happy Christmas, and all blessings from God Almighty. I have neither father nor mother, you are the only one left me."
Vanka raised his eyes to the dark ikon on which the light of his candle was reflected, and vividly recalled his grandfather, Konstantin Makaritch, who was night watchman to a family called Zhivarev. He was a thin but extraordinarily nimble and lively little old man of sixty-five, with an everlastingly laughing face and drunken eyes. By day he slept in the servants' kitchen, or made jokes with the cooks; at night, wrapped in an ample sheepskin, he walked round the grounds and tapped with his little mallet. Old Kashtanka and Eel, so-called on account of his dark colour and his long body like a weasel's, followed him with hanging heads. This Eel was exceptionally polite and affectionate, and looked with equal kindness on strangers and his own masters, but had not a very good reputation. Under his politeness and meekness was hidden the most Jesuitical cunning. No one knew better how to creep up on occasion and snap at one's legs, to slip into the store-room, or steal a hen from a peasant. His hind legs had been nearly pulled off more than once, twice he had been hanged, every week he was thrashed till he was half dead, but he always revived.
At this moment grandfather was, no doubt, standing at the gate, screwing up his eyes at the red windows of the church, stamping with his high felt boots, and joking with the servants. His little mallet was hanging on his belt. He was clasping his hands, shrugging with the cold, and, with an aged chuckle, pinching first the housemaid, then the cook.
"How about a pinch of snuff?" he was saying, offering the women his snuff-box.
The women would take a sniff and sneeze. Grandfather would be indescribably delighted, go off into a merry chuckle, and cry:
"Tear it off, it has frozen on!"
They give the dogs a sniff of snuff too. Kashtanka sneezes, wriggles her head, and walks away offended. Eel does not sneeze, from politeness, but wags his tail. And the weather is glorious. The air is still, fresh, and transparent. The night is dark, but one can see the whole village with its white roofs and coils of smoke coming from the chimneys, the trees silvered with hoar frost, the snowdrifts. The whole sky spangled with gay twinkling stars, and the Milky Way is as distinct as though it had been washed and rubbed with snow for a holiday. . . .
Vanka sighed, dipped his pen, and went on writing:
"And yesterday I had a wigging. The master pulled me out into the yard by my hair, and whacked me with a boot-stretcher because I accidentally fell asleep while I was rocking their brat in the cradle. And a week ago the mistress told me to clean a herring, and I began from the tail end, and she took the herring and thrust its head in my face. The workmen laugh at me and send me to the tavern for vodka, and tell me to steal the master's cucumbers for them, and the master beats me with anything that comes to hand. And there is nothing to eat. In the morning they give me bread, for dinner, porridge, and in the evening, bread again; but as for tea, or soup, the master and mistress gobble it all up themselves. And I am put to sleep in the passage, and when their wretched brat cries I get no sleep at all, but have to rock the cradle. Dear grandfather, show the divine mercy, take me away from here, home to the village. It's more than I can bear. I bow down to your feet, and will pray to God for you for ever, take me away from here or I shall die."
Vanka's mouth worked, he rubbed his eyes with his black fist, and gave a sob.
"I will chowder your snuff for you," he went on. "I will pray for you, and if I do anything you can thrash me like Sidor's goat. And if you think I've no job, then I will beg the steward for Christ's sake to let me clean his boots, or I'll go for a shepherd-boy instead of Fedka. Dear grandfather, it is more than I can bear, it's simply no life at all. I wanted to run away to the village, but I have no boots, and I am afraid of the frost. When I grow up big I will take care of you for this, and not let anyone annoy you, and when you die I will pray for the rest of your soul, just as for my mammy's.
Moscow is a big town. It's all gentlemen's houses, and there are lots of horses, but there are no sheep, and the dogs are not spiteful. The lads here don't go out with the star, and they don't let anyone go into the choir, and once I saw in a shop window fishing-hooks for sale, fitted ready with the line and for all sorts of fish, awfully good ones, there was even one hook that would hold a forty-pound sheat-fish. And I have seen shops where there are guns of all sorts, after the pattern of the master's guns at home, so that I shouldn't wonder if they are a hundred roubles each. . . . And in the butchers' shops there are grouse and woodcocks and fish and hares, but the shopmen don't say where they shoot them.
"Dear grandfather, when they have the Christmas tree at the big house, get me a gilt walnut, and put it away in the green trunk. Ask the young lady Olga Ignatyevna, say it's for Vanka."
Vanka gave a tremulous sigh, and again stared at the window. He remembered how his grandfather always went into the forest to get the Christmas tree for his master's family, and took his grandson with him. It was a merry time! Grandfather made a noise in his throat, the forest crackled with the frost, and looking at them Vanka chortled too. Before chopping down the Christmas tree, grandfather would smoke a pipe, slowly take a pinch of snuff, and laugh at frozen Vanka. . . . The young fir trees, covered with hoar frost, stood motionless, waiting to see which of them was to die. Wherever one looked, a hare flew like an arrow over the snowdrifts. . . . Grandfather could not refrain from shouting: "Hold him, hold him . . . hold him! Ah, the bob-tailed devil!"
When he had cut down the Christmas tree, grandfather used to drag it to the big house, and there set to work to decorate it. . . . The young lady, who was Vanka's favourite, Olga Ignatyevna, was the busiest of all. When Vanka's mother Pelageya was alive, and a servant in the big house, Olga Ignatyevna used to give him goodies, and having nothing better to do, taught him to read and write, to count up to a hundred, and even to dance a quadrille. When Pelageya died, Vanka had been transferred to the servants' kitchen to be with his grandfather, and from the kitchen to the shoemaker's in Moscow.
"Do come, dear grandfather," Vanka went on with his letter. "For Christ's sake, I beg you, take me away. Have pity on an unhappy orphan like me; here everyone knocks me about, and I am fearfully hungry; I can't tell you what misery it is, I am always crying. And the other day the master hit me on the head with a last, so that I fell down. My life is wretched, worse than any dog's. . . . I send greetings to Alyona, one-eyed Yegorka, and the coachman, and don't give my concertina to anyone. I remain, your grandson, Ivan Zhukov. Dear grandfather, do come."
Vanka folded the sheet of writing-paper twice, and put it into an envelope he had bought the day before for a kopeck. . . . After thinking a little, he dipped the pen and wrote the address:
To grandfather in the village.
Then he scratched his head, thought a little, and added: Konstantin Makaritch. Glad that he had not been prevented from writing, he put on his cap and, without putting on his little greatcoat, ran out into the street as he was in his shirt. . . .
The shopmen at the butcher's, whom he had questioned the day before, told him that letters were put in post-boxes, and from the boxes were carried about all over the earth in mailcarts with drunken drivers and ringing bells. Vanka ran to the nearest post-box, and thrust the precious letter in the slit. . . .
An hour later, lulled by sweet hopes, he was sound asleep. . . . He dreamed of the stove. On the stove was sitting his grandfather, swinging his bare legs, and reading the letter to the cooks. . . .
By the stove was Eel, wagging his tail.
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Cage:
Several men, three as a matter of fact, were out
walking one day, and as they were walking along and
talking one of them noticed another man standing on
a hill ahead of them. He turned to his friends and
said, “Why do you think that man is standing up
there on that hill?” One said, “He must be up there
because it’s cooler there and he’s enjoying the
breeze.” He turned to another and repeated his
question, “Why do you think that man’s standing up
there on that hill?” The second said, “Since the
hill is elevated above the rest of the land, he must
be up there in order to see something in the
distance.” And the third said, “He must have lost
his friend and that is why he is standing there
alone on that hill.” After some time walking along,
the men came up the hill and the one who had been
standing there was still there: standing there. They
asked him to say which one was right concerning his
reason for standing where he was standing. ¶ “What
reasons do you have for my standing here?” he asked.
“We have three,” they answered. “First, you are
standing up here because it’s cooler here and you
are enjoying the breeze. Second, since the hill is
elevated above the rest of the land, you are up here
in order to see something in the distance. Third,
you have lost your friend and that is why you are
standing here alone on this hill. We have walked
this way; we never meant to climb this hill; now we
want an answer: Which one of us is right?” The man
answered, “I just stand.”//
Tucker Madawick is seventeen years old.
He is Lois
Long’s son by her first husband.
It was dinnertime.
He came home
from his job in the Good Samaritan
Hospital in Suffern and said
to his mother, “Well,
dear, I won’t be
seeing you for a couple of days.”
Lois Long said,
“What’s up?” Tucker said,
“Tomorrow night after
work, I’m driving to
Albany with Danny Sherwood for a
cup of coffee, and
I’ll be back for work the following
day.” Lois Long said,
“For heaven’s sake,
you can have a
cup of coffee here at home.”
Tucker Madawick replied,
“Don’t be a square.
Read Kerouac.”//
Now and then I come across an article on that rock
garden in Japan where there’s just a space of sand
and a few rocks in it. The author, no
matter who he is, sets out either to suggest
that the position of the rocks in the space follows
some geometrical plan productive of the beauty one
observes, or not satisfied with mere
suggestion, he makes diagrams and detailed
analyses. So when I met Ashihara, the
Japanese music and dance critic (his first name is
Eryo), I told him that I thought those stones
could have been anywhere in that space, that
I doubted whether their relationship was a planned
one, that the emptiness of the sand was such
that it could support stones at any points in it.
Ashihara had already given me a present
(some table mats), but then he asked me to wait
a moment while he went into his hotel.
He came out and gave me the tie I am now wearing.
After he
heard this lecture which I first gave in Brussels
in the French Pavilion, Karlheinz
Stockhausen said, “You should have said,
‘the tie I was wearing yesterday’.”//
This summer I’m going to give a class in mushroom
identification at the New School for Social
Research. Actually, it’s five field trips, not
really a class at all. However, when I proposed it
to Dean Clara Mayer, though she was delighted with
the idea, she said, “I’ll have to let you know later
whether or not we’ll give it.” So she spoke to the
president who couldn’t see why there should be a
class in mushrooms at the New School. Next she spoke
to Professor MacIvor who lives in Piermont. She
said, “What do you think about our having a mushroom
class at the New School?” He said, “Fine idea.
Nothing more than mushroom identification develops
the powers of observation.” This remark was relayed
both to the president and to me. It served to get
the class into the catalogue and to verbalize for
me my present attitude towards music: it isn’t
useful, music isn’t, unless it develops our powers
of audition. But most musicians can’t hear a single
sound, they listen only to the relationship between
two or more sounds. Music for them has nothing to
do with their powers of audition, but only to do
with their powers of observing relationships. In
order to do this, they have to ignore all the crying
babies, fire engines, telephone bells, coughs, that
happen to occur during their auditions. Actually,
if you run into people who are really interested in
hearing sounds, you’re apt to find them fascinated
by the quiet ones. “Did you hear that?” they will
say.
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:driving:
The BBSing is so much more fun since Frank. But, seriously, LOL at Frank ever competing for a conference chmpionship.
He would have beaten KU once. And for many of us that's just as good as a league title.
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:driving:The BBSing is so much more fun since Frank. But, seriously, LOL at Frank ever competing for a conference chmpionship.
He would have beaten KU once. And for many of us that's just as good as a league title.
For the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) dumbfucks maybe.
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Frank would have been undefeated
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:facepalm:
1. The Greeks don't hand out North Face jackets at Homecoming. They may have black fleeces, but I haven't seen a North Face one since the mid 90's.
2. Actual North Face jackets are eff'n comfy.
3. I wear a tan Members Only jacket.
/pops half collar and buttons strap
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Cage:
Several men, three as a matter of fact, were out
walking one day, and as they were walking along and
talking one of them noticed another man standing on
a hill ahead of them. He turned to his friends and
said, “Why do you think that man is standing up
there on that hill?” One said, “He must be up there
because it’s cooler there and he’s enjoying the
breeze.” He turned to another and repeated his
question, “Why do you think that man’s standing up
there on that hill?” The second said, “Since the
hill is elevated above the rest of the land, he must
be up there in order to see something in the
distance.” And the third said, “He must have lost
his friend and that is why he is standing there
alone on that hill.” After some time walking along,
the men came up the hill and the one who had been
standing there was still there: standing there. They
asked him to say which one was right concerning his
reason for standing where he was standing. ¶ “What
reasons do you have for my standing here?” he asked.
“We have three,” they answered. “First, you are
standing up here because it’s cooler here and you
are enjoying the breeze. Second, since the hill is
elevated above the rest of the land, you are up here
in order to see something in the distance. Third,
you have lost your friend and that is why you are
standing here alone on this hill. We have walked
this way; we never meant to climb this hill; now we
want an answer: Which one of us is right?” The man
answered, “I just stand.”//
Tucker Madawick is seventeen years old.
He is Lois
Long’s son by her first husband.
It was dinnertime.
He came home
from his job in the Good Samaritan
Hospital in Suffern and said
to his mother, “Well,
dear, I won’t be
seeing you for a couple of days.”
Lois Long said,
“What’s up?” Tucker said,
“Tomorrow night after
work, I’m driving to
Albany with Danny Sherwood for a
cup of coffee, and
I’ll be back for work the following
day.” Lois Long said,
“For heaven’s sake,
you can have a
cup of coffee here at home.”
Tucker Madawick replied,
“Don’t be a square.
Read Kerouac.”//
Now and then I come across an article on that rock
garden in Japan where there’s just a space of sand
and a few rocks in it. The author, no
matter who he is, sets out either to suggest
that the position of the rocks in the space follows
some geometrical plan productive of the beauty one
observes, or not satisfied with mere
suggestion, he makes diagrams and detailed
analyses. So when I met Ashihara, the
Japanese music and dance critic (his first name is
Eryo), I told him that I thought those stones
could have been anywhere in that space, that
I doubted whether their relationship was a planned
one, that the emptiness of the sand was such
that it could support stones at any points in it.
Ashihara had already given me a present
(some table mats), but then he asked me to wait
a moment while he went into his hotel.
He came out and gave me the tie I am now wearing.
After he
heard this lecture which I first gave in Brussels
in the French Pavilion, Karlheinz
Stockhausen said, “You should have said,
‘the tie I was wearing yesterday’.”//
This summer I’m going to give a class in mushroom
identification at the New School for Social
Research. Actually, it’s five field trips, not
really a class at all. However, when I proposed it
to Dean Clara Mayer, though she was delighted with
the idea, she said, “I’ll have to let you know later
whether or not we’ll give it.” So she spoke to the
president who couldn’t see why there should be a
class in mushrooms at the New School. Next she spoke
to Professor MacIvor who lives in Piermont. She
said, “What do you think about our having a mushroom
class at the New School?” He said, “Fine idea.
Nothing more than mushroom identification develops
the powers of observation.” This remark was relayed
both to the president and to me. It served to get
the class into the catalogue and to verbalize for
me my present attitude towards music: it isn’t
useful, music isn’t, unless it develops our powers
of audition. But most musicians can’t hear a single
sound, they listen only to the relationship between
two or more sounds. Music for them has nothing to
do with their powers of audition, but only to do
with their powers of observing relationships. In
order to do this, they have to ignore all the crying
babies, fire engines, telephone bells, coughs, that
happen to occur during their auditions. Actually,
if you run into people who are really interested in
hearing sounds, you’re apt to find them fascinated
by the quiet ones. “Did you hear that?” they will
say.
Not very minimalist right here iyam :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:
:D
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Cage:
Several men, three as a matter of fact, were out
walking one day, and as they were walking along and
talking one of them noticed another man standing on
a hill ahead of them. He turned to his friends and
said, “Why do you think that man is standing up
there on that hill?” One said, “He must be up there
because it’s cooler there and he’s enjoying the
breeze.” He turned to another and repeated his
question, “Why do you think that man’s standing up
there on that hill?” The second said, “Since the
hill is elevated above the rest of the land, he must
be up there in order to see something in the
distance.” And the third said, “He must have lost
his friend and that is why he is standing there
alone on that hill.” After some time walking along,
the men came up the hill and the one who had been
standing there was still there: standing there. They
asked him to say which one was right concerning his
reason for standing where he was standing. ¶ “What
reasons do you have for my standing here?” he asked.
“We have three,” they answered. “First, you are
standing up here because it’s cooler here and you
are enjoying the breeze. Second, since the hill is
elevated above the rest of the land, you are up here
in order to see something in the distance. Third,
you have lost your friend and that is why you are
standing here alone on this hill. We have walked
this way; we never meant to climb this hill; now we
want an answer: Which one of us is right?” The man
answered, “I just stand.”//
Tucker Madawick is seventeen years old.
He is Lois
Long’s son by her first husband.
It was dinnertime.
He came home
from his job in the Good Samaritan
Hospital in Suffern and said
to his mother, “Well,
dear, I won’t be
seeing you for a couple of days.”
Lois Long said,
“What’s up?” Tucker said,
“Tomorrow night after
work, I’m driving to
Albany with Danny Sherwood for a
cup of coffee, and
I’ll be back for work the following
day.” Lois Long said,
“For heaven’s sake,
you can have a
cup of coffee here at home.”
Tucker Madawick replied,
“Don’t be a square.
Read Kerouac.”//
Now and then I come across an article on that rock
garden in Japan where there’s just a space of sand
and a few rocks in it. The author, no
matter who he is, sets out either to suggest
that the position of the rocks in the space follows
some geometrical plan productive of the beauty one
observes, or not satisfied with mere
suggestion, he makes diagrams and detailed
analyses. So when I met Ashihara, the
Japanese music and dance critic (his first name is
Eryo), I told him that I thought those stones
could have been anywhere in that space, that
I doubted whether their relationship was a planned
one, that the emptiness of the sand was such
that it could support stones at any points in it.
Ashihara had already given me a present
(some table mats), but then he asked me to wait
a moment while he went into his hotel.
He came out and gave me the tie I am now wearing.
After he
heard this lecture which I first gave in Brussels
in the French Pavilion, Karlheinz
Stockhausen said, “You should have said,
‘the tie I was wearing yesterday’.”//
This summer I’m going to give a class in mushroom
identification at the New School for Social
Research. Actually, it’s five field trips, not
really a class at all. However, when I proposed it
to Dean Clara Mayer, though she was delighted with
the idea, she said, “I’ll have to let you know later
whether or not we’ll give it.” So she spoke to the
president who couldn’t see why there should be a
class in mushrooms at the New School. Next she spoke
to Professor MacIvor who lives in Piermont. She
said, “What do you think about our having a mushroom
class at the New School?” He said, “Fine idea.
Nothing more than mushroom identification develops
the powers of observation.” This remark was relayed
both to the president and to me. It served to get
the class into the catalogue and to verbalize for
me my present attitude towards music: it isn’t
useful, music isn’t, unless it develops our powers
of audition. But most musicians can’t hear a single
sound, they listen only to the relationship between
two or more sounds. Music for them has nothing to
do with their powers of audition, but only to do
with their powers of observing relationships. In
order to do this, they have to ignore all the crying
babies, fire engines, telephone bells, coughs, that
happen to occur during their auditions. Actually,
if you run into people who are really interested in
hearing sounds, you’re apt to find them fascinated
by the quiet ones. “Did you hear that?” they will
say.
Not very minimalist right here iyam :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:
:D
It's from his "Indeterminacy" series. Pretty minimalist in its own way, though not so much as his earlier works.
http://youtu.be/AJMekwS6b9U (http://youtu.be/AJMekwS6b9U)
http://youtu.be/nhFCtG2TUsQ (http://youtu.be/nhFCtG2TUsQ)
http://youtu.be/kv2JDKa_W1Q (http://youtu.be/kv2JDKa_W1Q)
http://youtu.be/4M77TxD4zik (http://youtu.be/4M77TxD4zik)
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:driving:The BBSing is so much more fun since Frank. But, seriously, LOL at Frank ever competing for a conference chmpionship.
He would have beaten KU once. And for many of us that's just as good as a league title.
beating ku once is a pretty safe bet - after all he was 2-9 against them :drink:
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This team with Frank is the same as last year's team plus Jamar. Either Frank is worse than we thought or oscar is way better. Probably the latter.
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You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may trod me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I'll rise.
Does my sassiness upset you?
Why are you beset with gloom?
'Cause I walk like I've got oil wells
Pumping in my living room.
Just like moons and like suns,
With the certainty of tides,
Just like hopes springing high,
Still I'll rise.
Did you want to see me broken?
Bowed head and lowered eyes?
Shoulders falling down like teardrops.
Weakened by my soulful cries.
Does my haughtiness offend you?
Don't you take it awful hard
'Cause I laugh like I've got gold mines
Diggin' in my own back yard.
You may shoot me with your words,
You may cut me with your eyes,
You may kill me with your hatefulness,
But still, like air, I'll rise.
Does my sexiness upset you?
Does it come as a surprise
That I dance like I've got diamonds
At the meeting of my thighs?
Out of the huts of history's shame
I rise
Up from a past that's rooted in pain
I rise
I'm a black ocean, leaping and wide,
Welling and swelling I bear in the tide.
Leaving behind nights of terror and fear
I rise
Into a daybreak that's wondrously clear
I rise
Bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave,
I am the dream and the hope of the slave.
I rise
I rise
I rise.
oscar rises
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This team with Frank is the same as last year's team plus Jamar. Either Frank is worse than we thought or oscar is way better. Probably the latter.
Plus a year of experience
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This team with Frank is the same as last year's team plus Jamar. Either Frank is worse than we thought or oscar is way better. Probably the latter.
Plus a year of experience
PLUS SEVEN PLAYERS QUITTING
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How can anybody be expected to shoot a basketball effectively with a psycho body builder running the strength and conditioning? Good grief
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Still here, [redacted].
Even if we're just as good this year with oscar as we would've been with Frank, dumbass OP and Gunnar have to admit a few things:
1) We're getting about 1/4th the national exposure now that we would have with Frank
2) This isn't nearly as much fun
3) The BBSing is absolutely terrible by comparo.
So yeah, pretty much we have been right all along about everything so far.
1. Dumb
2. :dubious:
3. You aren't trying hard enough.
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How can anybody be expected to shoot a basketball effectively with a psycho body builder running the strength and conditioning? Good grief
THANK YOU. Bodybuilders SUCK at sports.
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This team with Frank is the same as last year's team plus Jamar. Either Frank is worse than we thought or oscar is way better. Probably the latter.
Plus a year of experience
PLUS SEVEN PLAYERS QUITTING
plus much much worse league = undefeated, LOL at anyone who would think otherwise
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This team with Frank is the same as last year's team plus Jamar. Either Frank is worse than we thought or oscar is way better. Probably the latter.
Plus a year of experience
PLUS SEVEN PLAYERS QUITTING
plus much much worse league = undefeated, LOL at anyone who would think otherwise
So frank would beat isu and OU? Why didn't he beat them last year?
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This team with Frank is the same as last year's team plus Jamar. Either Frank is worse than we thought or oscar is way better. Probably the latter.
Plus a year of experience
PLUS SEVEN PLAYERS QUITTING
plus much much worse league = undefeated, LOL at anyone who would think otherwise
So frank would beat isu and OU? Why didn't he beat them last year?
frank only lost at Ames and Norman once each, so last years' losses were clearly anomalies. LOL if you think we wouldn't be undefeated this year.
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Gosh I just don't know, we were pretty horrendous last year under frank and all of our players hated his guts.
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Gosh I just don't know, we were pretty horrendous last year under frank and all of our players hated his guts.
LOL
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I was #teamburnitdown. Bigtime. I'm a 30-something nontraditional student at KSU (after wasting a decade in the Army), and I've been a 'Cat fan since I was 8 years old in 1984. My family moved here, and my cousin promptly informed me that I was a K-State fan. I ran with it.
I dealt with years of abuse from squawklets, who rooted for KU for reasons unbeknownst to them. They beat us in football, they beat us in basketball...it got pretty tiring after a while, but my team is my team. Kruger gave me a glimmer of hope...and then he was gone.
I sat and watched and prayed through the Altman years, and become extremely apathetic with Asbury and Woolridge. Huggins started something great...and promptly bailed. Frank was always on the verge; as much as it broke my heart when he bailed, I knew that he was never getting through that glass ceiling.
So, along comes oscar. Suddenly, we're all saddled with a guy who just got fired for being a bad coach, and was about to take a job at a community college. Wonderful. I was ready to attend basketball games just to throw crap at the guy.
I'll tell you what, though--he's done an amazing job. Yes, it's with Frank's kids...and I don't give a crap. What matters to me is right now, and as I type this, we sit in first place. In March. His team beat Florida, took one from Iowa State, swept Oklahoma, and is about to sweep Baylor. Frank wasn't going to accomplish that.
Yes, his ability to recruit scares the hell out of me. Yes, he passed on Jacob. Yes, he brought us this rough ridin' clown Orris. He's also brought us DJamer, and has been using Williams and Lawrence; in addition, he doesn't pin his very hopes on the whims of one Will Spradling for every victory, and he's benched the hell out of Diaz...all good things in my book.
So, I admit: I was #teamburnitdown. And now, I'm on whatever team is willing to sit down and write this guy a letter of apology because...at least so far...I couldn't have been more wrong about the guy. Right now, this season, he fits a role we desperately needed.
That's it. Longtime lurker, rare poster, but I know how it goes. Post your A) DNR, B) STFU>FOOMF, and C) accuse me of being a sock. Whatever. It looks like being a former #burnitdown guy is putting me in the position to eat a crap-ton of humble pie.
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Man, BID did a terrible job explaining ourselves.
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Frank would have absolutely buttfucked this league into oblivion this year
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Pro tip you are still #bid
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Man, BID did a terrible job explaining ourselves.
Not really, just appears that non #BID can't think correctly.
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No two BIDers have the same version of BID. They're too butthurt to notice.
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Frank would have absolutely buttfucked this league into oblivion this year
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I love the bizzaro world the burners have created. Yeah, like Frank wouldn't have dropped a couple games while teaching someone a lesson.
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haha edn you go girl, you tell em
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Cherry picking the results from the past that only support what you want to believe makes it very easy to make bold untestable claims.
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I was #teamburnitdown. Bigtime. I'm a 30-something nontraditional student at KSU (after wasting a decade in the Army), and I've been a 'Cat fan since I was 8 years old in 1984. My family moved here, and my cousin promptly informed me that I was a K-State fan. I ran with it.
I dealt with years of abuse from squawklets, who rooted for KU for reasons unbeknownst to them. They beat us in football, they beat us in basketball...it got pretty tiring after a while, but my team is my team. Kruger gave me a glimmer of hope...and then he was gone.
I sat and watched and prayed through the Altman years, and become extremely apathetic with Asbury and Woolridge. Huggins started something great...and promptly bailed. Frank was always on the verge; as much as it broke my heart when he bailed, I knew that he was never getting through that glass ceiling.
So, along comes oscar. Suddenly, we're all saddled with a guy who just got fired for being a bad coach, and was about to take a job at a community college. Wonderful. I was ready to attend basketball games just to throw crap at the guy.
I'll tell you what, though--he's done an amazing job. Yes, it's with Frank's kids...and I don't give a crap. What matters to me is right now, and as I type this, we sit in first place. In March. His team beat Florida, took one from Iowa State, swept Oklahoma, and is about to sweep Baylor. Frank wasn't going to accomplish that.
Yes, his ability to recruit scares the hell out of me. Yes, he passed on Jacob. Yes, he brought us this rough ridin' clown Orris. He's also brought us DJamer, and has been using Williams and Lawrence; in addition, he doesn't pin his very hopes on the whims of one Will Spradling for every victory, and he's benched the hell out of Diaz...all good things in my book.
So, I admit: I was #teamburnitdown. And now, I'm on whatever team is willing to sit down and write this guy a letter of apology because...at least so far...I couldn't have been more wrong about the guy. Right now, this season, he fits a role we desperately needed.
That's it. Longtime lurker, rare poster, but I know how it goes. Post your A) DNR, B) STFU>FOOMF, and C) accuse me of being a sock. Whatever. It looks like being a former #burnitdown guy is putting me in the position to eat a crap-ton of humble pie.
lol awesome
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I was #teamburnitdown. Bigtime. I'm a 30-something nontraditional student at KSU (after wasting a decade in the Army), and I've been a 'Cat fan since I was 8 years old in 1984. My family moved here, and my cousin promptly informed me that I was a K-State fan. I ran with it.
I dealt with years of abuse from squawklets, who rooted for KU for reasons unbeknownst to them. They beat us in football, they beat us in basketball...it got pretty tiring after a while, but my team is my team. Kruger gave me a glimmer of hope...and then he was gone.
I sat and watched and prayed through the Altman years, and become extremely apathetic with Asbury and Woolridge. Huggins started something great...and promptly bailed. Frank was always on the verge; as much as it broke my heart when he bailed, I knew that he was never getting through that glass ceiling.
So, along comes oscar. Suddenly, we're all saddled with a guy who just got fired for being a bad coach, and was about to take a job at a community college. Wonderful. I was ready to attend basketball games just to throw crap at the guy.
I'll tell you what, though--he's done an amazing job. Yes, it's with Frank's kids...and I don't give a crap. What matters to me is right now, and as I type this, we sit in first place. In March. His team beat Florida, took one from Iowa State, swept Oklahoma, and is about to sweep Baylor. Frank wasn't going to accomplish that.
Yes, his ability to recruit scares the hell out of me. Yes, he passed on Jacob. Yes, he brought us this rough ridin' clown Orris. He's also brought us DJamer, and has been using Williams and Lawrence; in addition, he doesn't pin his very hopes on the whims of one Will Spradling for every victory, and he's benched the hell out of Diaz...all good things in my book.
So, I admit: I was #teamburnitdown. And now, I'm on whatever team is willing to sit down and write this guy a letter of apology because...at least so far...I couldn't have been more wrong about the guy. Right now, this season, he fits a role we desperately needed.
That's it. Longtime lurker, rare poster, but I know how it goes. Post your A) DNR, B) STFU>FOOMF, and C) accuse me of being a sock. Whatever. It looks like being a former #burnitdown guy is putting me in the position to eat a crap-ton of humble pie.
lol awesome
It's definitely better than being a K-State fan because the drive to Lawrence is too taxing.
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Last year I spent six months participating in what I was told was a psychological experiment. I found an ad in my local paper looking for imaginative people looking to make good money, and since it was the only ad that week that I was remotely qualified for, I gave them a call and we arranged an interview.
They told me that all I would have to do is stay in a room, alone, with sensors attached to my head to read my brain activity, and while I was there I would visualize a double of myself. They called it my “tulpa”.
It seemed easy enough, and I agreed to do it as soon as they told me how much I would be paid. And the next day, I began. They brought me to a simple room and gave me a bed, then attached sensors to my head and hooked them into a little black box on the table beside me. They talked me through the process of visualizing my double again, and explained that if I got bored or restless, instead of moving around, I should visualize my double moving around, or try to interact with him, and so on. The idea was to keep him with me the entire time I was in the room.
I had trouble with it for the first few days. It was more controlled than any sort of daydreaming I’d done before. I’d imagine my double for a few minutes, then grow distracted. But by the fourth day, I could manage to keep him “present” for the entire six hours. They told me I was doing very well.
The second week, they gave me a different room, with wall-mounted speakers. They told me they wanted to see if I could still keep the tulpa with me in spite of distracting stimuli. The music was discordant, ugly and unsettling, and it made the process a little more difficult, but I managed nonetheless. The next week they played even more unsettling music, punctuated with shrieks, feedback loops, what sounded like an old school modem dialing up, and guttural voices speaking some foreign language. I just laughed it off – I was a pro by then.
After about a month, I started to get bored. To liven things up, I started interacting with my doppelganger. We’d have conversations, or play rock-paper-scissors, or I’d imagine him juggling, or break-dancing, or whatever caught my fancy. I asked the researchers if my foolishness would adversely affect their study, but they encouraged me.
So we played, and communicated, and that was fun for a while. And then it got a little strange. I was telling him about my first date one day, and he corrected me. I’d said my date was wearing a yellow top, and he told me it was a green one. I thought about it for a second, and realized he was right. It creeped me out, and after my shift that day, I talked to the researchers about it. “You’re using the thought-form to access your subconscious,” they explained. “You knew on some level that you were wrong, and you subconsciously corrected yourself.”
What had been creepy was suddenly cool. I was talking to my subconscious! It took some practice, but I found that I could question my tulpa and access all sorts of memories. I could make it quote whole pages of books I’d read once, years before, or things I was taught and immediately forgot in high school. It was awesome.
That was around the time I started “calling up” my double outside of the research center. Not often at first, but I was so used to imagining him by now that it almost seemed odd to not see him. So whenever I was bored, I’d visualize my double. Eventually I started doing it almost all the time. It was amusing to take him along like an invisible friend. I imagined him when I was hanging out with friends, or visiting my mom, I even brought him along on a date once. I didn’t need to speak aloud to him, so I was able to carry out conversations with him and no one was the wiser.
I know that sounds strange, but it was fun. Not only was he a walking repository of everything I knew and everything I had forgotten, he also seemed more in touch with me than I did at times. He had an uncanny grasp of the minutiae of body language that I didn’t even realize I was picking up on. For example, I’d thought the date I brought him along on was going badly, but he pointed out how she was laughing a little too hard at my jokes, and leaning towards me as I spoke, and a bunch of other subtle clues I wasn’t consciously picking up on. I listened, and let’s just say that that date went very well.
By the time I’d been at the research center for four months, he was with my constantly. The researchers approached me one day after my shift, and asked me if I’d stopped visualizing him. I denied it, and they seemed pleased. I silently asked my double if he knew what prompted that, but he just shrugged it off. So did I.
I withdrew a little from the world at that point. I was having trouble relating to people. It seemed to me that they were so confused and unsure of themselves, while I had a manifestation of myself to confer with. It made socializing awkward. Nobody else seemed aware of the reasons behind their actions, why some things made them mad and others made them laugh. They didn’t know what moved them. But I did – or at least, I could ask myself and get an answer.
A friend confronted me one evening. He pounded at the door until I answered it, and came in fuming and swearing up a storm. “You haven’t answered when I called you in rough ridin' weeks, you dick!” He yelled. “What’s your rough ridin' problem?”.
I was about to apologize to him, and probably would have offered to hit the bars with him that night, but my tulpa grew suddenly furious. “Hit him,” it said, and before I knew what I was doing, I had. I heard his nose break. He fell to the floor and came up swinging, and we beat each other up and down my apartment.
I was more furious then than I have ever been, and I was not merciful. I knocked him to the ground and gave him two savage kicks to the ribs, and that was when he fled, hunched over and sobbing.
The police were by a few minutes later, but I told them that he had been the instigator, and since he wasn’t around to refute me, they let me off with a warning. My tulpa was grinning the entire time. We spent the night crowing about my victory and sneering over how badly I’d beaten my friend.
It wasn’t until the next morning, when I was checking out my black eye and cut lip in the mirror, that I remembered what had set me off. My double was the one who’d grown furious, not me. I’d been feeling guilty and a little ashamed, but he’d goaded me into a vicious fight with a concerned friend. He was present, of course, and knew my thoughts. “You don’t need him anymore. You don’t need anyone else,” he told me, and I felt my skin crawl.
I explained all this to the researchers who employed me, but they just laughed it off. “You can’t be scared of something that you’re imagining,” one told me. My double stood beside him, and nodded his head, then smirked at me.
I tried to take their words to heart, but over the next few days I found myself growing more and more anxious around my tulpa, and it seemed that he was changing. He looked taller, and more menacing. His eyes twinkled with mischief, and I saw malice in his constant smile. No job was worth losing my mind over, I decided. If he was out of control, I’d put him down. I was so used to him at that point that visualizing him was an automatic process, so I started trying my damnedest to not visualize him. It took a few days, but it started to work somewhat. I could get rid of him for hours at a time. But every time he came back, he seemed worse. His skin seemed ashen, his teeth more pointed. He hissed and gibbered and threatened and swore. The discordant music I’d been listening to for months seemed to accompany him everywhere. Even when I was at home – I’d relax and slip up, no longer concentrating on not seeing him, and there he’d be, and that howling noise with him.
I was still visiting the research center and spending my six hours there. I needed the money, and I thought they weren’t aware that I was now actively not visualizing my tulpa. I was wrong. After my shift one day, about five and a half months in, two impressively men grabbed and restrained me, and someone in a lab coat jabbed a hypodermic needle into me.
I woke up from my stupor back in the room, strapped into the bed, music blaring, with my doppelganger standing over me cackling. He hardly looked human anymore. His features were twisted. His eyes were sunken in their sockets and filmed over like a corpse’s. He was much taller than me, but hunched over. His hands were twisted, and the fingernails were like talons. He was, in short, rough ridin' terrifying. I tried to will him away, but I just couldn’t seem to concentrate. He giggled, and tapped the IV in my arm. I thrashed in my restraints as best I could, but could hardly move at all.
“They’re pumping you full of the good crap, I think. How’s the mind? All fuzzy?” He leaned closer and closer as he spoke. I gagged; his breath smelt like spoiled meat. I tried to focus, but couldn’t banish him.
The next few weeks were terrible. Every so often, someone in a doctor’s coat would come in and inject me with something, or force-feed me a pill. They kept me dizzy and unfocused, and sometimes left me hallucinating or delusional. My thoughtform was still present, constantly mocking. He interacted with, or perhaps caused, my delusions. I hallucinated that my mother was there, scolding me, and then he cut her throat and her blood showered me. It was so real that I could taste it.
The doctors never spoke to me. I begged at times, screamed, hurled invectives, demanded answers. They never spoke to me. They may have talked to my tulpa, my personal monster. I’m not sure. I was so doped and confused that it may have just been more delusion, but I remember them talking with him. I grew convinced that he was the real one, and I was the thoughtform. He encouraged that line of thought at times, mocked me at others.
Another thing that I pray was a delusion: he could touch me. More than that, he could hurt me. He’d poke and prod at me if he felt I wasn’t paying enough attention to him. Once he grabbed my testicles and squeezed until I told him I loved him. Another time, he slashed my forearm with one of his talons. I still have a scar – most days I can convince myself that I injured myself, and just hallucinated that he was responsible. Most days.
Then one day, while he was telling me a story about how he was going to gut everyone I loved, starting with my sister, he paused. A querulous look crossed his face, and reached out and touched my head. Like my mother used to when I was feverish. He stayed still for a long moment, and then smiled. “All thoughts are creative,” he told me. Then he walked out the door.
Three hours later, I was given an injection, and passed out. I awoke unrestrained. Shaking, I made my way to the door and found it unlocked. I walked out into the empty hallway, and then ran. I stumbled more than once, but I made it down the stairs and out into the lot behind the building. There, I collapsed, weeping like a child. I knew I had to keep moving, but I couldn’t manage it.
I got home eventually – I don’t remember how. I locked the door, and shoved a dresser against it, took a long shower, and slept for a day and a half. Nobody came for me in the night, and nobody came the next day, or the one after that. It was over. I’d spent a week locked in that room, but it had felt like a century. I’d withdrawn so much from my life beforehand that nobody had even known I was missing.
The police didn’t find anything. The research center was empty when they searched it. The paper trail fell apart. The names I’d given them were aliases. Even the money I’d received was apparently untraceable.
I recovered as much as one can. I don’t leave the house much, and I have panic attacks when I do. I cry a lot. I don’t sleep much, and my nightmares are terrible. It’s over, I tell myself. I survived. I use the concentration those bastards taught me to convince myself. It works, sometimes.
Not today, though. Three days ago, I got a phone call from my mother. There’s been a tragedy. My sister’s the latest victim in a spree of killings, the police say. The perpetrator mugs his victims, then guts them.
The funeral was this afternoon. It was as lovely a service as a funeral can be, I suppose. I was a little distracted, though. All I could hear was music coming from somewhere distant. Discordant, unsettling stuff, that sounds like feedback, and shrieking, and a modem dialing up. I hear it still – a little louder now.
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J is the most hardcore #BIDer on the board. :comeatme: Followed by Rusty.
I'm team predicting oscar is gonna have a long and successful career at KSU. (We don't have a hashtag.) And I'm enjoying the crap out of this potential championship season.
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J is the most hardcore #BIDer on the board. :comeatme: Followed by Rusty.
I'm team predicting oscar is gonna have a long and successful career at KSU. (We don't have a hashtag.) And I'm enjoying the crap out of this potential championship season.
I rise
I rise
I rise.
oscar rises
oscar HAS RISEN
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J is the most hardcore #BIDer on the board. :comeatme: Followed by Rusty.
I'm team predicting oscar is gonna have a long and successful career at KSU. (We don't have a hashtag.) And I'm enjoying the crap out of this potential championship season.
I rise
I rise
I rise.
oscar rises
oscar HAS RISEN
oscar IS RISEN, INDEED! :peek:
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Team BID needs to have a meeting and get its crap together. This is pathetic.
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Team BID needs to have a meeting and get its crap together. This is pathetic.
Conference room has been booked solid for months
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whoa, avatar deja vu
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I hear ya man. That happened to me too.
Last year I spent six months participating in what I was told was a psychological experiment. I found an ad in my local paper looking for imaginative people looking to make good money, and since it was the only ad that week that I was remotely qualified for, I gave them a call and we arranged an interview.
They told me that all I would have to do is stay in a room, alone, with sensors attached to my head to read my brain activity, and while I was there I would visualize a double of myself. They called it my “tulpa”.
It seemed easy enough, and I agreed to do it as soon as they told me how much I would be paid. And the next day, I began. They brought me to a simple room and gave me a bed, then attached sensors to my head and hooked them into a little black box on the table beside me. They talked me through the process of visualizing my double again, and explained that if I got bored or restless, instead of moving around, I should visualize my double moving around, or try to interact with him, and so on. The idea was to keep him with me the entire time I was in the room.
I had trouble with it for the first few days. It was more controlled than any sort of daydreaming I’d done before. I’d imagine my double for a few minutes, then grow distracted. But by the fourth day, I could manage to keep him “present” for the entire six hours. They told me I was doing very well.
The second week, they gave me a different room, with wall-mounted speakers. They told me they wanted to see if I could still keep the tulpa with me in spite of distracting stimuli. The music was discordant, ugly and unsettling, and it made the process a little more difficult, but I managed nonetheless. The next week they played even more unsettling music, punctuated with shrieks, feedback loops, what sounded like an old school modem dialing up, and guttural voices speaking some foreign language. I just laughed it off – I was a pro by then.
After about a month, I started to get bored. To liven things up, I started interacting with my doppelganger. We’d have conversations, or play rock-paper-scissors, or I’d imagine him juggling, or break-dancing, or whatever caught my fancy. I asked the researchers if my foolishness would adversely affect their study, but they encouraged me.
So we played, and communicated, and that was fun for a while. And then it got a little strange. I was telling him about my first date one day, and he corrected me. I’d said my date was wearing a yellow top, and he told me it was a green one. I thought about it for a second, and realized he was right. It creeped me out, and after my shift that day, I talked to the researchers about it. “You’re using the thought-form to access your subconscious,” they explained. “You knew on some level that you were wrong, and you subconsciously corrected yourself.”
What had been creepy was suddenly cool. I was talking to my subconscious! It took some practice, but I found that I could question my tulpa and access all sorts of memories. I could make it quote whole pages of books I’d read once, years before, or things I was taught and immediately forgot in high school. It was awesome.
That was around the time I started “calling up” my double outside of the research center. Not often at first, but I was so used to imagining him by now that it almost seemed odd to not see him. So whenever I was bored, I’d visualize my double. Eventually I started doing it almost all the time. It was amusing to take him along like an invisible friend. I imagined him when I was hanging out with friends, or visiting my mom, I even brought him along on a date once. I didn’t need to speak aloud to him, so I was able to carry out conversations with him and no one was the wiser.
I know that sounds strange, but it was fun. Not only was he a walking repository of everything I knew and everything I had forgotten, he also seemed more in touch with me than I did at times. He had an uncanny grasp of the minutiae of body language that I didn’t even realize I was picking up on. For example, I’d thought the date I brought him along on was going badly, but he pointed out how she was laughing a little too hard at my jokes, and leaning towards me as I spoke, and a bunch of other subtle clues I wasn’t consciously picking up on. I listened, and let’s just say that that date went very well.
By the time I’d been at the research center for four months, he was with my constantly. The researchers approached me one day after my shift, and asked me if I’d stopped visualizing him. I denied it, and they seemed pleased. I silently asked my double if he knew what prompted that, but he just shrugged it off. So did I.
I withdrew a little from the world at that point. I was having trouble relating to people. It seemed to me that they were so confused and unsure of themselves, while I had a manifestation of myself to confer with. It made socializing awkward. Nobody else seemed aware of the reasons behind their actions, why some things made them mad and others made them laugh. They didn’t know what moved them. But I did – or at least, I could ask myself and get an answer.
A friend confronted me one evening. He pounded at the door until I answered it, and came in fuming and swearing up a storm. “You haven’t answered when I called you in rough ridin' weeks, you dick!” He yelled. “What’s your rough ridin' problem?”.
I was about to apologize to him, and probably would have offered to hit the bars with him that night, but my tulpa grew suddenly furious. “Hit him,” it said, and before I knew what I was doing, I had. I heard his nose break. He fell to the floor and came up swinging, and we beat each other up and down my apartment.
I was more furious then than I have ever been, and I was not merciful. I knocked him to the ground and gave him two savage kicks to the ribs, and that was when he fled, hunched over and sobbing.
The police were by a few minutes later, but I told them that he had been the instigator, and since he wasn’t around to refute me, they let me off with a warning. My tulpa was grinning the entire time. We spent the night crowing about my victory and sneering over how badly I’d beaten my friend.
It wasn’t until the next morning, when I was checking out my black eye and cut lip in the mirror, that I remembered what had set me off. My double was the one who’d grown furious, not me. I’d been feeling guilty and a little ashamed, but he’d goaded me into a vicious fight with a concerned friend. He was present, of course, and knew my thoughts. “You don’t need him anymore. You don’t need anyone else,” he told me, and I felt my skin crawl.
I explained all this to the researchers who employed me, but they just laughed it off. “You can’t be scared of something that you’re imagining,” one told me. My double stood beside him, and nodded his head, then smirked at me.
I tried to take their words to heart, but over the next few days I found myself growing more and more anxious around my tulpa, and it seemed that he was changing. He looked taller, and more menacing. His eyes twinkled with mischief, and I saw malice in his constant smile. No job was worth losing my mind over, I decided. If he was out of control, I’d put him down. I was so used to him at that point that visualizing him was an automatic process, so I started trying my damnedest to not visualize him. It took a few days, but it started to work somewhat. I could get rid of him for hours at a time. But every time he came back, he seemed worse. His skin seemed ashen, his teeth more pointed. He hissed and gibbered and threatened and swore. The discordant music I’d been listening to for months seemed to accompany him everywhere. Even when I was at home – I’d relax and slip up, no longer concentrating on not seeing him, and there he’d be, and that howling noise with him.
I was still visiting the research center and spending my six hours there. I needed the money, and I thought they weren’t aware that I was now actively not visualizing my tulpa. I was wrong. After my shift one day, about five and a half months in, two impressively men grabbed and restrained me, and someone in a lab coat jabbed a hypodermic needle into me.
I woke up from my stupor back in the room, strapped into the bed, music blaring, with my doppelganger standing over me cackling. He hardly looked human anymore. His features were twisted. His eyes were sunken in their sockets and filmed over like a corpse’s. He was much taller than me, but hunched over. His hands were twisted, and the fingernails were like talons. He was, in short, rough ridin' terrifying. I tried to will him away, but I just couldn’t seem to concentrate. He giggled, and tapped the IV in my arm. I thrashed in my restraints as best I could, but could hardly move at all.
“They’re pumping you full of the good crap, I think. How’s the mind? All fuzzy?” He leaned closer and closer as he spoke. I gagged; his breath smelt like spoiled meat. I tried to focus, but couldn’t banish him.
The next few weeks were terrible. Every so often, someone in a doctor’s coat would come in and inject me with something, or force-feed me a pill. They kept me dizzy and unfocused, and sometimes left me hallucinating or delusional. My thoughtform was still present, constantly mocking. He interacted with, or perhaps caused, my delusions. I hallucinated that my mother was there, scolding me, and then he cut her throat and her blood showered me. It was so real that I could taste it.
The doctors never spoke to me. I begged at times, screamed, hurled invectives, demanded answers. They never spoke to me. They may have talked to my tulpa, my personal monster. I’m not sure. I was so doped and confused that it may have just been more delusion, but I remember them talking with him. I grew convinced that he was the real one, and I was the thoughtform. He encouraged that line of thought at times, mocked me at others.
Another thing that I pray was a delusion: he could touch me. More than that, he could hurt me. He’d poke and prod at me if he felt I wasn’t paying enough attention to him. Once he grabbed my testicles and squeezed until I told him I loved him. Another time, he slashed my forearm with one of his talons. I still have a scar – most days I can convince myself that I injured myself, and just hallucinated that he was responsible. Most days.
Then one day, while he was telling me a story about how he was going to gut everyone I loved, starting with my sister, he paused. A querulous look crossed his face, and reached out and touched my head. Like my mother used to when I was feverish. He stayed still for a long moment, and then smiled. “All thoughts are creative,” he told me. Then he walked out the door.
Three hours later, I was given an injection, and passed out. I awoke unrestrained. Shaking, I made my way to the door and found it unlocked. I walked out into the empty hallway, and then ran. I stumbled more than once, but I made it down the stairs and out into the lot behind the building. There, I collapsed, weeping like a child. I knew I had to keep moving, but I couldn’t manage it.
I got home eventually – I don’t remember how. I locked the door, and shoved a dresser against it, took a long shower, and slept for a day and a half. Nobody came for me in the night, and nobody came the next day, or the one after that. It was over. I’d spent a week locked in that room, but it had felt like a century. I’d withdrawn so much from my life beforehand that nobody had even known I was missing.
The police didn’t find anything. The research center was empty when they searched it. The paper trail fell apart. The names I’d given them were aliases. Even the money I’d received was apparently untraceable.
I recovered as much as one can. I don’t leave the house much, and I have panic attacks when I do. I cry a lot. I don’t sleep much, and my nightmares are terrible. It’s over, I tell myself. I survived. I use the concentration those bastards taught me to convince myself. It works, sometimes.
Not today, though. Three days ago, I got a phone call from my mother. There’s been a tragedy. My sister’s the latest victim in a spree of killings, the police say. The perpetrator mugs his victims, then guts them.
The funeral was this afternoon. It was as lovely a service as a funeral can be, I suppose. I was a little distracted, though. All I could hear was music coming from somewhere distant. Discordant, unsettling stuff, that sounds like feedback, and shrieking, and a modem dialing up. I hear it still – a little louder now.
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Burn it the eff down
:buh-bye:
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Don't burn it down...BLOW IT UP.
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oscar's last two games are losses to LaSalle and Northern Colorado.
:flush:
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First game of the season and oscar already has the type of loss that prevents tourney selection.
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Tucks on twitter saying that Spradling and Southwell's shooting struggles arent webers fault, and that poor 3 shooting isnt either...lol
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Woof, mother rough ridin' woof.
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I hope that bacon was good, guys.
Also, sorry Doom.
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a mid-major coach, a mid-major team with a pg who should be at emporia st and 6'7 "big" men.
the worst part is everyone except the AD knew this would happen.
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you puds are doing NOTHING in helping NDSU's BCS national championship bid.
Win a game! Get ahold of your nuts *grabs junk* Instincts
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Lol
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Somebody move that bus a little bit further away from the fire but leave the door wide open. A bunch of people are about to come running out and they will be looking for a seat.
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Burn it the eff down
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I missed all of this. I got my first black north face jacket a month ago, but I've been BID since Day 1.
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Recent convert to team BID. I always hated the oscar hire, but was willing to give him a chance, 'cause I'm all :ksu: I actually think we can be pretty damn good in two years with Foster, Westicles and Jevon, with Edwards and the bigs on the way. I just don't care anymore and that's the crux. I no longer look and see when the next game is and try to find it on the TV schedule. I want to care, I really do. :frown:
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Recent convert to team BID. I always hated the oscar hire, but was willing to give him a chance, 'cause I'm all :ksu: I actually think we can be pretty damn good in two years with Foster, Westicles and Jevon, with Edwards and the bigs on the way. I just don't care anymore and that's the crux. I no longer look and see when the next game is and try to find it on the TV schedule. I want to care, I really do. :frown:
Don't sound very BID to me.
Gonna win 'em all!
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Fair enough. More like #teamletitburn :don'tcare:
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Fair enough. More like #teamletitburn :don'tcare:
Gotta be all in on BID, or nothing. No middle ground on something like this.
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#TeamWeToldYouSo
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#TeamWeToldYouSo
This is the sister charter of #BID.
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@hosienation 3h
WTF is a North Face jacket, and why have I been asked to buy one? Mulattos <<<<<
@leecrowe Protected Tweets 42m
#WhiteBoyShit RT @hosienation: WTF is a North Face jacket, and why have I been asked to buy one? Mulattos <<<<<
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I get what a northface jacket is, but don't understand what that has to do with #BID, other than seeing it ref in Trim's twitter once or twice. Little help here.
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to the bid's that have answered the call, I won't even laugh at you if things go the way I expect, for I respect you standing up for what you believe. For those that hide in the shadows only to take potshots after the fact, I will expose you to the light of day. As has been repeated on and on and on, this is not a battle it is a war, and it will be a long one. The bid's have set a high standard for success, we must wait until all of Franks guys are gone before we can judge, I will honor this (it is unreasonable but I will honor it). Why then do I troll before we know the results, because what fun would it be after we know? I am prepared to be ridiculed if I am wrong (i'm not by the way). It is equally important that the Northface crowd have their noses rubbed in their feces when they are proved wrong. There are currently rats jumping the bid ship, and other more wiley rats hedging their bets, and massaging their bid stance. This was to be expected, what they have seen now and has them worried is that 1. oscar coaches great offensive basketball for the talent level you get at k-state. 2. oscar coaches good defense. and 3. oscar's 13 recruits are on par with what we have had since groat. These three reasons are why the smart and wiley bid's stay away from this topic.
I interpret the bolded statement to mean only the immature, shallow and overly image conscious would pay well over $100 for fleece jacket and not give oscar a chance.
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Oh man, if you are going to bold something in that, it should be this:
1. oscar coaches great offensive basketball for the talent level you get at k-state.
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Still here, [redacted].
Even if we're just as good this year with oscar as we would've been with Frank, dumbass OP and Gunnar have to admit a few things:
1) We're getting about 1/4th the national exposure now that we would have with Frank
2) This isn't nearly as much fun
3) The BBSing is absolutely terrible by comparo.
So yeah, pretty much we have been right all along about everything so far.
we've got about 3 more wins than we'd have had with Frank - don't let your stubborness continue to make you sound foolish
Doesn't matter, still not nearly as fun.
four freshmen that are going to leave their mark - is it getting fun yet?
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Still here, [redacted].
Even if we're just as good this year with oscar as we would've been with Frank, dumbass OP and Gunnar have to admit a few things:
1) We're getting about 1/4th the national exposure now that we would have with Frank
2) This isn't nearly as much fun
3) The BBSing is absolutely terrible by comparo.
So yeah, pretty much we have been right all along about everything so far.
we've got about 3 more wins than we'd have had with Frank - don't let your stubborness continue to make you sound foolish
Doesn't matter, still not nearly as fun.
four freshmen that are going to leave their mark - is it getting fun yet?
Five if you include Jack Krap.
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And why wouldn't you!
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Still here, [redacted].
Even if we're just as good this year with oscar as we would've been with Frank, dumbass OP and Gunnar have to admit a few things:
1) We're getting about 1/4th the national exposure now that we would have with Frank
2) This isn't nearly as much fun
3) The BBSing is absolutely terrible by comparo.
So yeah, pretty much we have been right all along about everything so far.
we've got about 3 more wins than we'd have had with Frank - don't let your stubborness continue to make you sound foolish
Doesn't matter, still not nearly as fun.
four freshmen that are going to leave their mark - is it getting fun yet?
Kind of, but not nearly as fun as it would be with Frank (who would definitely be at least 10-3 at this point, too). I only halfway watched the George Washington game. I barely check the basketball board. It's not as fun. :frown:
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I've generally been tuning in for games but quickly zoning out. I spent a chunk of yesterday's game looking up Marriott and BA options for places I could blow some of my category 1-5 free nights and low avios flights to go eat dinner somewhere new.
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Maybe once football is over but I am so so so disinterested right now.
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can't believe i'm saying this, but i think it's time to reconsider #bid and just ride this mother out.
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I think oscar is just as entertaining as Frank.
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I think oscar is just as entertaining as Frank.
He's entertaining in that I'd probably watch a brad essex show.
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I don't like him on a personal level so I don't think I'll ever really get behind him as a coach. I am glad that he has decided to not Charlie Weiss us though.
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Assuming we end up decent this season, my standard being a bubble team on Selection Sunday, then it looks like Weber and Lowery as a team have always done pretty well, no?
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I don't like him on a personal level so I don't think I'll ever really get behind him as a coach. I am glad that he has decided to not Charlie Weiss us though.
No one will ever "Charlie Weis KSU." We would never allow it. Even oscar will never be Chaz...I think.
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I'm just astonished that somebody couldn't be entertained by either the GW or Zaga games because the coach isn't colorful enough. I mean, I get all of the oscar/Frank national exposure stuff. Frank's antics were a lightning rod for national coverage. It was great for our program.
But, we are we are and the team is fun to watch. I don't really know what else oscar could be doing. Would Tad Boyle have been more exciting on the sideline?
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Assuming we end up decent this season, my standard being a bubble team on Selection Sunday, then it looks like Weber and Lowery as a team have always done pretty well, no?
Prior to this season they had been together four total seasons. In those four, they finished first in conference and made the NCAA tournament 100% of the time (2 MVC, 1 big 10, 1 Big 12). So, yeah.
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Assuming we end up decent this season, my standard being a bubble team on Selection Sunday, then it looks like Weber and Lowery as a team have always done pretty well, no?
Prior to this season they had been together four total seasons. In those four, they finished first in conference and made the NCAA tournament 100% of the time (2 MVC, 1 big 10, 1 Big 12). So, yeah.
wow, dream team. its really hard to argue with 100%, regardless of sample size
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I'm just astonished that somebody couldn't be entertained by either the GW or Zaga games because the coach isn't colorful enough. I mean, I get all of the oscar/Frank national exposure stuff. Frank's antics were a lightning rod for national coverage. It was great for our program.
But, we are we are and the team is fun to watch. I don't really know what else oscar could be doing. Would Tad Boyle have been more exciting on the sideline?
The team is playing really well right now, but it's certainly understandable that a large portion of our fanbase would tune out after losing to Northern Colorado in the first game of the season. That school is in Greeley, for Christ's sake. The fans will be back if we can beat OSU.
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I like the players so I do my best to ignore that doofus on the sideline. Thank gawd the cameras don't love him.
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I'm just astonished that somebody couldn't be entertained by either the GW or Zaga games because the coach isn't colorful enough. I mean, I get all of the oscar/Frank national exposure stuff. Frank's antics were a lightning rod for national coverage. It was great for our program.
But, we are we are and the team is fun to watch. I don't really know what else oscar could be doing. Would Tad Boyle have been more exciting on the sideline?
Not be losing to No. Colorado and getting trucked by Georgetown?
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pretty good time to buy low if you've been sitting on the #bid fence for a while
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I like the players so I do my best to ignore that doofus on the sideline. Thank gawd the cameras don't love him.
Same.
Big 12 play will bring on another dimension, I imagine. For instance, when oscar is too cowardly to blow up on/manipulate a ref or something like that. oscar needs a bad cop in a bad way.
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Is this oscar's best recruiting class ever? It appears it is.
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Is this oscar's best recruiting class ever? It appears it is.
Seems like Bread agreed with this a little while ago and went as far as to say Foster was his second best recruit ever in his opinion.
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Is this oscar's best recruiting class ever? It appears it is.
Seems like Bread agreed with this a little while ago and went as far as to say Foster was his second best recruit ever in his opinion.
I thought Bread said he was the best.
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Is this oscar's best recruiting class ever? It appears it is.
Seems like Bread agreed with this a little while ago and went as far as to say Foster was his second best recruit ever in his opinion.
I thought Bread said he was the best.
Secnd best. oscar had five star recruit and lottery pick Meyers Leonard, who is now with Portland Trail Blazers.
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Will Spradling is #39 nationally in lowest turnover rate (7.3) among players with limited roles (used in 12-16% of possessions)!!!
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Unfair to say that he is "used" in 12-16% possessions, imo. What does that mean anyway?
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Unfair to say that he is "used" in 12-16% possessions, imo. What does that mean anyway?
http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/entry/individual_stats
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Unfair to say that he is "used" in 12-16% possessions, imo. What does that mean anyway?
Percentage of possessions used (%Poss): A measure of personal possessions used while the player is on the court. Simply assigns credit or blame to a player when his actions end a possession, either by making a shot, missing a shot that isn’t rebounded by the offense, or committing a turnover.
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Unfair to say that he is "used" in 12-16% possessions, imo. What does that mean anyway?
Percentage of possessions used (%Poss): A measure of personal possessions used while the player is on the court. Simply assigns credit or blame to a player when his actions end a possession, either by making a shot, missing a shot that isn’t rebounded by the offense, or committing a turnover.
Well for a guy that is often passing up shots he should take without thinking about it, only to pass the ball to someone who isn't open for a shot, this isn't surprising when defined that way.
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Not be losing to No. Colorado and getting trucked by Georgetown?
Fair enough. But, not talking about on-the-court results. Obvs, bad losses will damper a fan base's excitement, regardless of coach.
I'm talking to the portion of the fanbase who won't tune in because oscar isn't the character that Frank is. Zags and GW beatdowns were kinda meh because oscar wasn't Frank during the game.
it is what it is, i guess. and I know it's early. But we've got a young team that's been pretty exciting to watch the past month.
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Yay for abusive behavior!
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I'm just astonished that somebody couldn't be entertained by either the GW or Zaga games because the coach isn't colorful enough. I mean, I get all of the oscar/Frank national exposure stuff. Frank's antics were a lightning rod for national coverage. It was great for our program.
But, we are we are and the team is fun to watch. I don't really know what else oscar could be doing. Would Tad Boyle have been more exciting on the sideline?
No but oscar Pearl would have been. :cheers:
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Is this oscar's best recruiting class ever? It appears it is.
Seems like Bread agreed with this a little while ago and went as far as to say Foster was his second best recruit ever in his opinion.
I thought Bread said he was the best.
Secnd best. oscar had five star recruit and lottery pick Meyers Leonard, who is now with Portland Trail Blazers.
I said best, but I was thinking college career. Both Leonard and Richmond were much higher rated and in terms of raw talent and ability were both better than Foster imo. Neither accomplished much of anything in college though. Leonard left early on potential and Richmond flamed out due to being a crazy person.
McCamey and Paul were oscar's two best college players. McCamey was very good. If he had had a primary scoring wing with him he would have been unstoppable. Even as the number one option on some undertalented teams he put up strong numbers.
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Unfair to say that he is "used" in 12-16% possessions, imo. What does that mean anyway?
I believe it means he dribbles aimlessly in a circle around the free throw line and then passes to another player? :dunno:
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I've generally been tuning in for games but quickly zoning out. I spent a chunk of yesterday's game looking up Marriott and BA options for places I could blow some of my category 1-5 free nights and low avios flights to go eat dinner somewhere new.
me too. i went to the gw game, and even mostly tuned that out, even though i was actually in the arena. i think it has a lot more to do with me than the on-court product though.
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Unfair to say that he is "used" in 12-16% possessions, imo. What does that mean anyway?
Percentage of possessions used (%Poss): A measure of personal possessions used while the player is on the court. Simply assigns credit or blame to a player when his actions end a possession, either by making a shot, missing a shot that isn’t rebounded by the offense, or committing a turnover.
Well for a guy that is often passing up shots he should take without thinking about it, only to pass the ball to someone who isn't open for a shot, this isn't surprising when defined that way.
It is kind of surprising that he still turns it over that little knowing he rarely takes a shot.
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What is different about being at games this year and last under oscar?
Who is acting differently? What demographic? How many people in that arena read goEMAW?
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What is different about being at games this year and last under oscar?
Who is acting differently? What demographic? How many people in that arena read goEMAW?
it looked/sounded the same as in years past to me.
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I loved the stuff Frank brought, but I really enjoy watching this team.
Foster, Thomas, Shane, Westicles, Gip, Nigel, even DJamer. Heck, even Will when he hits a three.
I like these guys.
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What is different about being at games this year and last under oscar?
Who is acting differently? What demographic? How many people in that arena read goEMAW?
it looked/sounded the same as in years past to me.
oh ok, I thought people had commented that fewer people were going and that they were not into it.
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What is different about being at games this year and last under oscar?
Who is acting differently? What demographic? How many people in that arena read goEMAW?
it looked/sounded the same as in years past to me.
oh ok, I thought people had commented that fewer people were going and that they were not into it.
overall that's true. the gw game was pretty great though.
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I really enjoy watching this team. even DJamer.
i don't believe that for second.
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I don't think people just liked watching Frank's teams more because of Frank's antics on the bench. His teams were fun to watch because of the style of play.
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what's wrong with DJamer? :confused:
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I really enjoy watching this team. even DJamer.
i don't believe that for second.
I do! (Boarding machine!)
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what's wrong with DJamer? :confused:
He's terrible at basketball.
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what's wrong with DJamer? :confused:
He's terrible at basketball.
To be fair, he's a great defender/rebounder. He's just terrible at scoring/ball skills.
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Look, every single person alive on planet earth agrees that oscar Weber is a HUGE awkward dork, and makes everyone cringe at the very sight of him. The sun is hot, ice is cold.
But, he is also proving to be some kind of December basketball turd polisher...two data points in a row equal a trend.
As a result of this two year trend, we must now suspend "burn-it-down" as long as oscar keeps polishing. Of course the instant that he falters, we must pounce with furious rage. go cats.
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To be fair, he's a great defender/rebounder. He's just terrible at scoring/ball skills.
one of the most common assumptions fans make, when observing a player who is clearly and obviously bad at part of the game, is that he must be symmetrically good at another aspect of the game.
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Look, every single person alive on planet earth agrees that oscar Weber is a HUGE awkward dork, and makes everyone cringe at the very sight of him. The sun is hot, ice is cold.
But, he is also proving to be some kind of December basketball turd polisher...two data points in a row equal a trend.
As a result of this two year trend, we must now suspend "burn-it-down" as long as oscar keeps polishing. Of course the instant that he falters, we must pounce with furious rage. go cats.
WGAF about Dec basketball other than it's fun to win any game. He better be better at Jan-March polishing, otherwise GTFO stands.
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To be fair, he's a great defender/rebounder. He's just terrible at scoring/ball skills.
one of the most common assumptions fans make, when observing a player who is clearly and obviously bad at part of the game, is that he must be symmetrically good at another aspect of the game.
Do stats not matter to you anymore?
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Look, every single person alive on planet earth agrees that oscar Weber is a HUGE awkward dork, and makes everyone cringe at the very sight of him. The sun is hot, ice is cold.
But, he is also proving to be some kind of December basketball turd polisher...two data points in a row equal a trend.
As a result of this two year trend, we must now suspend "burn-it-down" as long as oscar keeps polishing. Of course the instant that he falters, we must pounce with furious rage. go cats.
WGAF about Dec basketball other than it's fun to win any game. He better be better at Jan-March polishing, otherwise GTFO stands.
Sorry, it was implied that the December efforts lead to later rewards.
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Look, every single person alive on planet earth agrees that oscar Weber is a HUGE awkward dork, and makes everyone cringe at the very sight of him. The sun is hot, ice is cold.
But, he is also proving to be some kind of December basketball turd polisher...two data points in a row equal a trend.
As a result of this two year trend, we must now suspend "burn-it-down" as long as oscar keeps polishing. Of course the instant that he falters, we must pounce with furious rage. go cats.
WGAF about Dec basketball other than it's fun to win any game. He better be better at Jan-March polishing, otherwise GTFO stands.
Sorry, it was implied that the December efforts lead to later rewards.
Better than 14-4 in conference/2-1 in conference tournament? The last time a KSU team put up those numbers in conference (prior to last year) was 1988. Maybe you meant to say: WGAF about games from November through mid March?
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Do stats not matter to you anymore?
i perceive him to be a good rebounder, even when you discount his contribution on the boards with the knowledge that he's scarcely asked to do anything except rebound. the statistics indicate that as well. i do not perceive him to be a particularly good defender, nor are there any stats that contradict my visual assessment.
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Do stats not matter to you anymore?
i perceive him to be a good rebounder, even when you discount his contribution on the boards with the knowledge that he's scarcely asked to do anything except rebound. the statistics indicate that as well. i do not perceive him to be a particularly good defender, nor are there any stats that contradict my visual assessment.
I mean, for a big man, the only statistical defensive measurements are blocks and rebounds. And statistics would indicate he's quite good at rebounding and acceptable at blocking shots. You're correct that that there are no other stats which support/refute whether a player is a good defender.
Visually, I see a guy who rebounds well, is active around the rim, changes shots, and gets to loose balls that other bigs don't get to. He's all over the f'n place. But, yeah, stats won't back a lot of this up.
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if we get to the NCAAs I will probably renounce my membership of #teamburnitdown
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if we get to the NCAAs I will probably renounce my membership of #teamburnitdown
You won't have to. If we get to the NCAAs there won't be a #BID to renounce.
But, don't worry, our chances of an NCAA birth are 50/50 at best. IMO.
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Visually, I see a guy who rebounds well, is active around the rim, changes shots, and gets to loose balls that other bigs don't get to. He's all over the f'n place. But, yeah, stats won't back a lot of this up.
i agree that he's active. i also think he's well above average on ball away from the basket for a big.
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GOSP, not better than last yr, better at polishing a team for jan through march than polishing a decemberwhocares team.
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what happens when teams that we are playing start making their open 3pt shots? is this a concern for non BIDers or are you guys just doubling down and letting 'er ride.
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Read a pretty good article today basically saying that bringing our three d back to conf norm would provide approx 7 pts per 100 possesions more for our opponents and the author basically said that ppl need to be prepared for things to abg out in conf play.
Guy said that this is the secret to our success so far and that it won't last because math.
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Read a pretty good article today.
link?
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WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE START SHOOTING BETTER! OMG!
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Read a pretty good article today basically saying that bringing our three d back to conf norm would provide approx 7 pts per 100 possesions more for our opponents and the author basically said that ppl need to be prepared for things to abg out in conf play.
Guy said that this is the secret to our success so far and that it won't last because math.
Pretty good assumption. But, at the same time, I'm assuming that our FG% won't remain 283rd at 41%. I'm hopeful that having a true PG like Jevon will help our overall offensive flow and free guys up for better shots out of the offense.
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if we win saturday i will basically be completely invested in kstate u cats bball again.
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if we win saturday i will basically be completely invested in kstate u cats bball again.
I'm already pretty invested. It will take a 25 point loss to change that.
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if we win saturday i will basically be completely invested in kstate u cats bball again.
kinda where I'm at.
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Read a pretty good article today.
link?
On phone at gym. It was on my google news feed. Will look when I get home.
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I still believe oscar to be a loser...
That being said if Foster and the freshmen ca overcome his loseriness for the next 4 years I will be all :emawkid:
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only 4 teams have been more fortunate than KSU, in terms of opponents sucking at making 3's.
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Read a pretty good article today.
link?
http://www.burntorangenation.com/2014/1/2/5263272/inside-the-numbers-big-12-hoops-preview-kansas-state-texas-tech-and
What worries me: Shooting, both that of Kansas State and its opponents. The K-State offense has not been particularly good this year. Among Big 12 teams, only TCU ranks lower in the Pomeroy offensive ratings. The reason is poor shooting. Kansas State has made only 30 percent of their three point attempts and 63 percent of their free throws. Both of those totals are costing the Wildcats.
Last year, Shane Southwell connected on 48-110 of his three point attempts; so far this season he is 15-52. Will Spradling, another solid shooter last year, is currently 18-57 from long range. The only Wildcat currently shooting a decent percentage from long range is freshman guard Marcus Foster, who has hit 35 percent of his threes.
Now, I think the shooting of Southwell and Spradling is likely to turn around. But even if it does, Kansas State doesn't seem to have enough fire-power. Weber's team will have to win with their D.
Which brings us to the following concern. Kansas State has held opponents to 0.90 points per possession so far this year. That is an outstanding number. But much of their success comes from the fact that opponents have made only 26 percent of their three pointers and have only hit 62 percent of their free throws; both of these totals fall in the bottom ten of D-I.
And both aren't likely to persist. Over the long haul, opponent three point percentage and free throw percentage tend to revert towards the mean. If these numbers do reach the mean, K-State will give up roughly 7 more points per 100 possessions.
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Yeah, that's it. :highfives:
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holy crap, no way.
1. Big Ten Conference .8338
2. Big 12 Conference .8162
3. Big East Conference .8037
4. Atlantic Coast Conference .7983
5. Pac 12 Conference .7812
6. Southeastern Conference .7460
7. American Atheltic Conference .7409
8. Atlantic 10 Conference .6961
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By how much more than 7 points per 100 possessions have we been winning our games?
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what happens when teams that we are playing start making their open 3pt shots? is this a concern for non BIDers or are you guys just doubling down and letting 'er ride.
This is a legitimate concern, would like to know if there is any correlation between Weber/lowery defense coached teams and these shooting percentages.
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Link
http://www.burntorangenation.com/2014/1/2/5263272/inside-the-numbers-big-12-hoops-preview-kansas-state-texas-tech-and (http://www.burntorangenation.com/2014/1/2/5263272/inside-the-numbers-big-12-hoops-preview-kansas-state-texas-tech-and)
I don't believe in the logic that our opponents 3 point % will revert all the way to the mean.
Any article that doesn't mention Jevon is pointless to read. All so Jevon should help improve our 3 point defense even if it is statically evident because we trend slightly towards the mean.
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Read a pretty good article today.
link?
http://www.burntorangenation.com/2014/1/2/5263272/inside-the-numbers-big-12-hoops-preview-kansas-state-texas-tech-and
What worries me: Shooting, both that of Kansas State and its opponents. The K-State offense has not been particularly good this year. Among Big 12 teams, only TCU ranks lower in the Pomeroy offensive ratings. The reason is poor shooting. Kansas State has made only 30 percent of their three point attempts and 63 percent of their free throws. Both of those totals are costing the Wildcats.
Last year, Shane Southwell connected on 48-110 of his three point attempts; so far this season he is 15-52. Will Spradling, another solid shooter last year, is currently 18-57 from long range. The only Wildcat currently shooting a decent percentage from long range is freshman guard Marcus Foster, who has hit 35 percent of his threes.
Now, I think the shooting of Southwell and Spradling is likely to turn around. But even if it does, Kansas State doesn't seem to have enough fire-power. Weber's team will have to win with their D.
Which brings us to the following concern. Kansas State has held opponents to 0.90 points per possession so far this year. That is an outstanding number. But much of their success comes from the fact that opponents have made only 26 percent of their three pointers and have only hit 62 percent of their free throws; both of these totals fall in the bottom ten of D-I.
And both aren't likely to persist. Over the long haul, opponent three point percentage and free throw percentage tend to revert towards the mean. If these numbers do reach the mean, K-State will give up roughly 7 more points per 100 possessions.
I'm not sure if where he got his numbers, but I don't think he gave the full picture by just saying we'd give up 7 more points per 100 possessions.
If both our shooting and our opponents' 3PT and FT shooting settle to NCAA average in Big 12 play (34% 3PT, 69% FT), then the Cats will give up 2.6 (net) more pts per 100, or 1.7 points per game, at our current 64.5 possession pace. This could mean the difference in a couple more wins/losses.
However, its pretty much impossible (yet) to account for the addition of Jevon Thomas, and my guess is that his addition will lead to net improvements in both our offense and defensive numbers.
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Well, the first mistake that guy made was taking into consideration that our shooting should improve, rather than focusing solely on how our opponents' shooting should improve.
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Read a pretty good article today.
link?
http://www.burntorangenation.com/2014/1/2/5263272/inside-the-numbers-big-12-hoops-preview-kansas-state-texas-tech-and
What worries me: Shooting, both that of Kansas State and its opponents. The K-State offense has not been particularly good this year. Among Big 12 teams, only TCU ranks lower in the Pomeroy offensive ratings. The reason is poor shooting. Kansas State has made only 30 percent of their three point attempts and 63 percent of their free throws. Both of those totals are costing the Wildcats.
Last year, Shane Southwell connected on 48-110 of his three point attempts; so far this season he is 15-52. Will Spradling, another solid shooter last year, is currently 18-57 from long range. The only Wildcat currently shooting a decent percentage from long range is freshman guard Marcus Foster, who has hit 35 percent of his threes.
Now, I think the shooting of Southwell and Spradling is likely to turn around. But even if it does, Kansas State doesn't seem to have enough fire-power. Weber's team will have to win with their D.
Which brings us to the following concern. Kansas State has held opponents to 0.90 points per possession so far this year. That is an outstanding number. But much of their success comes from the fact that opponents have made only 26 percent of their three pointers and have only hit 62 percent of their free throws; both of these totals fall in the bottom ten of D-I.
And both aren't likely to persist. Over the long haul, opponent three point percentage and free throw percentage tend to revert towards the mean. If these numbers do reach the mean, K-State will give up roughly 7 more points per 100 possessions.
I'm not sure if where he got his numbers, but I don't think he gave the full picture by just saying we'd give up 7 more points per 100 possessions.
If both our shooting and our opponents' 3PT and FT shooting settle to NCAA average in Big 12 play (34% 3PT, 69% FT), then the Cats will give up 2.6 (net) more pts per 100, or 1.7 points per game, at our current 64.5 possession pace. This could mean the difference in a couple more wins/losses.
However, its pretty much impossible (yet) to account for the addition of Jevon Thomas, and my guess is that his addition will lead to net improvements in both our offense and defensive numbers.
Our Offensive TO rate dropped 2 games before Jevon even played. Troy game was the game our offense started to click. But yea... Jevon, tho
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I'm just astonished that somebody couldn't be entertained by either the GW or Zaga games because the coach isn't colorful enough. I mean, I get all of the oscar/Frank national exposure stuff. Frank's antics were a lightning rod for national coverage. It was great for our program.
But, we are we are and the team is fun to watch. I don't really know what else oscar could be doing. Would Tad Boyle have been more exciting on the sideline?
No but oscar Pearl would have been. :cheers:
pearl is a scum bag imho
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Look, every single person alive on planet earth agrees that oscar Weber is a HUGE awkward dork, and makes everyone cringe at the very sight of him. The sun is hot, ice is cold.
But, he is also proving to be some kind of December basketball turd polisher...two data points in a row equal a trend.
As a result of this two year trend, we must now suspend "burn-it-down" as long as oscar keeps polishing. Of course the instant that he falters, we must pounce with furious rage. go cats.
WGAF about Dec basketball other than it's fun to win any game. He better be better at Jan-March polishing, otherwise GTFO stands.
Limeston GAF about November basketball (UNCo and Georgetown) to the point that he's jumped ship
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Limeston GAF about November basketball (UNCo and Georgetown) to the point that he's jumped ship
limestone was halfway to plymouth rock before november's news reached his ship
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Would Tad Boyle have been more exciting on the sideline?
LOL at oscar staying on the sideline.
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Does oscar leave us for a better job after this season?
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If he gets another conf champ, absolutely.
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Does oscar leave us for a better job after this season?
texas will probably be looking....hmmmm
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Tennessee really hate their current guy. Cuanzo, iirc. Saw a poll a couple weeks that said 80% of the tenn fans would want pearl back if he would come.
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What worries me: Shooting, both that of Kansas State and its opponents. The K-State offense has not been particularly good this year. Among Big 12 teams, only TCU ranks lower in the Pomeroy offensive ratings. The reason is poor shooting. Kansas State has made only 30 percent of their three point attempts and 63 percent of their free throws. Both of those totals are costing the Wildcats.
Last year, Shane Southwell connected on 48-110 of his three point attempts; so far this season he is 15-52. Will Spradling, another solid shooter last year, is currently 18-57 from long range. The only Wildcat currently shooting a decent percentage from long range is freshman guard Marcus Foster, who has hit 35 percent of his threes.
Now, I think the shooting of Southwell and Spradling is likely to turn around. But even if it does, Kansas State doesn't seem to have enough fire-power. Weber's team will have to win with their D.
Which brings us to the following concern. Kansas State has held opponents to 0.90 points per possession so far this year. That is an outstanding number. But much of their success comes from the fact that opponents have made only 26 percent of their three pointers and have only hit 62 percent of their free throws; both of these totals fall in the bottom ten of D-I.
And both aren't likely to persist. Over the long haul, opponent three point percentage and free throw percentage tend to revert towards the mean. If these numbers do reach the mean, K-State will give up roughly 7 more points per 100 possessions.
What if EVERY STAT reverts back to the mean?!!!
Every game will go into an infinite number of overtimes!!! :impatient:
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PAY oscar
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PAY oscar
Doug would love to coach these guys next year after oscar stacks another trophy and moves on
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PAY oscar
Doug would love to coach these guys next year after oscar stacks another trophy and moves on
Doug is too busy making fun of Notre Dame players' beards on twitter.
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I'm just astonished that somebody couldn't be entertained by either the GW or Zaga games because the coach isn't colorful enough. I mean, I get all of the oscar/Frank national exposure stuff. Frank's antics were a lightning rod for national coverage. It was great for our program.
But, we are we are and the team is fun to watch. I don't really know what else oscar could be doing. Would Tad Boyle have been more exciting on the sideline?
No but oscar Pearl would have been. :cheers:
pearl is a scum bag imho
kansasstate.scout.com is that waaaaay ----------->
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I'm just going to leave this here...... Watched it and got sad about basketball...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ_zqB1iBuU
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I'm just going to leave this here...... Watched it and got sad about basketball...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ_zqB1iBuU
We can resurrect the OOD, Chad.
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I'm just going to leave this here...... Watched it and got sad about basketball...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ_zqB1iBuU
We can resurrect the OOD, Chad.
Only if oscar gets a new haircut and a different voice :(
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I'm just going to leave this here...... Watched it and got sad about basketball...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ_zqB1iBuU
We can resurrect the OOD, Chad.
Only if oscar gets a new haircut and a different voice :(
In spite of oscar, Chad. Fans and players can resurrect it.
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I'm just going to leave this here...... Watched it and got sad about basketball...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ_zqB1iBuU
We can resurrect the OOD, Chad.
I know several people missing the game because of the Chiefs. It makes me sad.
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I'm just going to leave this here...... Watched it and got sad about basketball...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ_zqB1iBuU
We can resurrect the OOD, Chad.
I know several people missing the game because of the Chiefs. It makes me sad.
Me too, buddy. But I'll be there.
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I'm just going to leave this here...... Watched it and got sad about basketball...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ_zqB1iBuU
We can resurrect the OOD, Chad.
I know several people missing the game because of the Chiefs. It makes me sad.
Me too, buddy. But I'll be there.
Anyone who chooses to skip a K-State sporting event to watch the Chiefs or any other pro sport is a rough ridin' dumbass. I hate these people.
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I'm just going to leave this here...... Watched it and got sad about basketball...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ_zqB1iBuU
We can resurrect the OOD, Chad.
I know several people missing the game because of the Chiefs. It makes me sad.
Me too, buddy. But I'll be there.
Anyone who chooses to skip a K-State sporting event to watch the Chiefs or any other pro sport is a rough ridin' dumbass. I hate these people.
I'm thinking we're gonna have a good crowd regardless. Won't be packed like a KU game but will still be loud.
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I will also be there, even if i have to go it alone because my friends are idiots and terrible people. This game could be so huge.
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I will also be there, even if i have to go it alone because my friends are idiots and terrible people. This game could be so huge.
hey get your idiot friends' tickets and distribute them to non-idiots :users:
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I will also be there, even if i have to go it alone because my friends are idiots and terrible people. This game could be so huge.
hey get your idiot friends' tickets and distribute them to non-idiots :users:
All of my friends may be idiots.... seriously, all of them. Reconsidering friendship status.
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Seriously, everyone who has the option of going to the game but isn't so they can watch the rough ridin' chiefs needs to speak up so I can kick their ass if I ever see them irl.
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Seriously, everyone who has the option of going to the game but isn't so they can watch the rough ridin' chiefs needs to speak up so I can kick their ass if I ever see them irl.
ill give you $20 for the pair
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Seriously, everyone who has the option of going to the game but isn't so they can watch the rough ridin' chiefs needs to speak up so I can kick their ass if I ever see them irl.
Oh yeah. Forgot about that. Pfftt, have fun at home ERII.
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Seriously, everyone who has the option of going to the game but isn't so they can watch the rough ridin' chiefs needs to speak up so I can kick their ass if I ever see them irl.
Oh yeah. Forgot about that. Pfftt, have fun at home ERII.
I'll be stuffing my face with nachos and cheering on the Cats from Stevesie's tuck seats in section 7 thank you very much!
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Seriously, everyone who has the option of going to the game but isn't so they can watch the rough ridin' chiefs needs to speak up so I can kick their ass if I ever see them irl.
Oh yeah. Forgot about that. Pfftt, have fun at home ERII.
I'll be stuffing my face with nachos and cheering on the Cats from Stevesie's tuck seats in section 7 thank you very much!
Oh, I was thinking you gave Stevesie your tix. My fault. :thumbs:
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:emawkid:
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Seriously, everyone who has the option of going to the game but isn't so they can watch the rough ridin' chiefs needs to speak up so I can kick their ass if I ever see them irl.
i would.
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Seriously, everyone who has the option of going to the game but isn't so they can watch the rough ridin' chiefs needs to speak up so I can kick their ass if I ever see them irl.
i would.
:curse:
I'm going to rip that bar stool from underneath you next time you show your face around these parts.
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i can't wait for this game. kat kid is a super great guy.
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Team BID is now officially placed on probation. :nono:
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Team BID is now officially placed on probation. :nono:
I just want that weird guy in the locker room to leave us alone next time you try to tell me all about it.
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Team BID is now officially placed on probation. :nono:
I just want that weird guy in the locker room to leave us alone next time you try to tell me all about it.
:lol:
Weird guy in locker room weirder > oscar. Only because he doesn't win BB games for my team.
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Team BID is now officially placed on probation. :nono:
I just want that weird guy in the locker room to leave us alone next time you try to tell me all about it.
:lol:
Weird guy in locker room weirder > oscar. Only because he doesn't win BB games for my team.
Gooch quit the Y after I told him about that.
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Team BID is now officially placed on probation. :nono:
I just want that weird guy in the locker room to leave us alone next time you try to tell me all about it.
:lol:
Weird guy in locker room weirder > oscar. Only because he doesn't win BB games for my team.
Gooch quit the Y after I told him about that.
Summary: Gooch quit the Y and Bruceketball because of some weirdo.
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:lol:
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I don't think teamburnitdown should be suspended until oscar either lands a 5-star, beats ku, wins the conf tournament, or wins a couple ncaa tournament games.
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I don't think teamburnitdown should be suspended until oscar either lands a 5-star, beats ku, wins the conf tournament, or wins a couple ncaa tournament games.
teamburnitdown officially disbanded
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#teamreconstruction
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I'm team predicting oscar is gonna have a long and successful career at KSU. (We don't have a hashtag.) And I'm enjoying the crap out of this potential championship season.
Anyway, I'm done bringing up my old posts after this. "Like, whatever" is what I always say!
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Team #burnitdown lives, morons.
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Team #burnitdown lives, morons.
It will always be there, lurking, waiting for the slightest misstep.
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Team #burnitdown lives, morons.
It will always be there, lurking, waiting for the slightest misstep.
That's go EMAW dot com.
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Trim's got this. He'll be on lookout in the meantime, while we all party rock together. :cheers:
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I'm officially off.
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I'm officially off.
Off team burn it down that is
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Yep. I came out publicly on twitter this morning.
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Yep. I came out publicly on twitter this morning.
Any other week i might've posted congrats, but after this week :jerk: everyone's already doing it.
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Yep. I came out publicly on twitter this morning.
Any other week i might've posted congrats, but after this week :jerk: everyone's already doing it.
shut up
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Yep. I came out publicly on twitter this morning.
Any other week i might've posted congrats, but after this week :jerk: everyone's already doing it.
shut up
Too soon?
sent from my phone while in the crapper
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I'm now squarely #teamcautiouslyoptimistic. That's an enormous step for me!
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I'm now squarely #teamcautiouslyoptimistic. That's an enormous step for me!
yup
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Few were ever on board with #burnitdown <----- nicname was not
A lot of us fear #deathby1000razorcuts <------ nicname did and still does
I'm fully on board. The oscar is loose!
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Trim's got this. He'll be on lookout in the meantime, while we all party rock together. :cheers:
It's my hope that Trim and Gooch will embrace oscar, and one day we'll all see the Canadian flag flowing in section 17 after a rim-rattling dunk by KSU stud Hopper.
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The bid train is still rolling. But all the passengers are binging in the cocktail car right now.
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Great thread to re-read. :lol:
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Damn oscar is making it hard to stay on team BID. I don't know if I'll ever like that social Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) but I may be able to tolerate him if he keeps on winning. I'll keep binging in the cocktail car and cheering on the cats but I may start looking for a soft place to bail if he can sustain success.
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This thread pisses me off everytime i see it. It's been like busting street corner dope dealers,
I mean you're doing good and all, but the kingpins got away unscathed.
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I'm still on team #burnitdown .
Have fun with oscar in 2015-16, bros.
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Great thread to re-read. :lol:
J did some great work earlier in this thread. Really fantastic stuff.
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I'm still on team #burnitdown .
Have fun with oscar in 2015-16, bros.
Is that when he'll no longer have Frank's players? That relationship is a basic theoretical assumption in the science of BID, right?
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It's my hope that Trim and Gooch will embrace oscar, and one day we'll all see the Canadian flag flowing in section 17 after a rim-rattling dunk by KSU stud Hopper.
Funny, I got my ahean donation stuff in the mail yesterday. Still nah.
Similar to the realization that led to the 2/22 schemePAK, I don't think I'll ever be in fOOD ever again. Maybe if we make a giant event for Winters' graduation. :dunno:
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It's my hope that Trim and Gooch will embrace oscar, and one day we'll all see the Canadian flag flowing in section 17 after a rim-rattling dunk by KSU stud Hopper.
Funny, I got my ahean donation stuff in the mail yesterday. Still nah.
Similar to the realization that led to the 2/22 schemePAK, I don't think I'll ever be in fOOD ever again. Maybe if we make a giant event for Winters' graduation. :dunno:
you really picked the wrong horse to hitch your ride to.
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It's my hope that Trim and Gooch will embrace oscar, and one day we'll all see the Canadian flag flowing in section 17 after a rim-rattling dunk by KSU stud Hopper.
Funny, I got my ahean donation stuff in the mail yesterday. Still nah.
Similar to the realization that led to the 2/22 schemePAK, I don't think I'll ever be in fOOD ever again. Maybe if we make a giant event for Winters' graduation. :dunno:
you really picked the wrong horse to hitch your ride to.
I was asleep when you called the other day, but you wouldn't have remembered what I'd have told you anyway.
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It's my hope that Trim and Gooch will embrace oscar, and one day we'll all see the Canadian flag flowing in section 17 after a rim-rattling dunk by KSU stud Hopper.
Funny, I got my ahean donation stuff in the mail yesterday. Still nah.
Similar to the realization that led to the 2/22 schemePAK, I don't think I'll ever be in fOOD ever again. Maybe if we make a giant event for Winters' graduation. :dunno:
you really picked the wrong horse to hitch your ride to.
I was asleep when you called the other day, but you wouldn't have remembered what I'd have told you anyway.
using what I know about the two of you I've determined this happened at 11AM on a saturday
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Would it be easier to step away from #TBID if oscar wore black, ostrich-skin cowboy boots with powercats? And 5 button, non-tailored suits?
serious questions.
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it might help me step back from #BID if oscar didn't talk like the way he talks, and if he wasn't a huge loser and not capable of long-term success. :dunno:
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it might help me step back from #BID if oscar didn't talk like the way he talks, and if he wasn't a huge loser and not capable of long-term success. :dunno:
can you tell me about the relationship between long term success and team #bid?
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no, because my thoughts are strictly my thoughts. #bid is probably different things for different people.
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It's my hope that Trim and Gooch will embrace oscar, and one day we'll all see the Canadian flag flowing in section 17 after a rim-rattling dunk by KSU stud Hopper.
Funny, I got my ahean donation stuff in the mail yesterday. Still nah.
Similar to the realization that led to the 2/22 schemePAK, I don't think I'll ever be in fOOD ever again. Maybe if we make a giant event for Winters' graduation. :dunno:
you really picked the wrong horse to hitch your ride to.
I was asleep when you called the other day, but you wouldn't have remembered what I'd have told you anyway.
using what I know about the two of you I've determined this happened at 11AM on a saturday
You got the Saturday right, barely.
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no, because my thoughts are strictly my thoughts. #bid is probably different things for different people.
really? what makes you think that??
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Having had a couple days to objectively look back, this has moved me to the fence. If he starts winning tournament games and sustains his success, I will support him. Otherwise, I will hop right back on that #BID train.
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oscar deserves respect considering how little everyone thought of him when he was hired. He has taken that and literally pulled off "the impossible" (beating KU). Sustained success is key, but I feel like oscar truly has EMAW in his heart.
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Having had a couple days to objectively look back, this has moved me to the fence. If he starts winning tournament games and sustains his success, I will support him. Otherwise, I will hop right back on that #BID train.
I mean, you won't know if he can "sustain" success until about 2017, 5 years into it. I do get the NCAA bit, tho. regular season wins are hollow if we can't get past the round of 32.
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Having had a couple days to objectively look back, this has moved me to the fence. If he starts winning tournament games and sustains his success, I will support him. Otherwise, I will hop right back on that #BID train.
I mean, you won't know if he can "sustain" success until about 2017, 5 years into it. I do get the NCAA bit, tho. regular season wins are hollow if we can't get past the round of 32.
I realize that it will take at least that long to evaluate sustainability. The end of his Illinois tenure completely terrifies me and is probably the main reason why I have not jumped on in full support (La Salle, No Co, Charlotte, Angel and Josh Gray making up the remainder).
We are stuck with oscar for the long haul. No coach is getting fired from here after winning a conference title and beating KU in their first two seasons, at least not without several years of suck. I just wanted to give myself an out on oscar is case this thing goes south (which it does not appear possible as long as Foster is here and healthy).
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no, because my thoughts are strictly my thoughts. #bid is probably different things for different people.
really? what makes you think that??
because? :dunno:
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He has far exceeded my expectations, especially this season. Still waiting for him to win an NCAA Tournament game though.
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I realize that it will take at least that long to evaluate sustainability. The end of his Illinois tenure completely terrifies me and is probably the main reason why I have not jumped on in full support (La Salle, No Co, Charlotte, Angel and Josh Gray making up the remainder).
We are stuck with oscar for the long haul. No coach is getting fired from here after winning a conference title and beating KU in their first two seasons, at least not without several years of suck. I just wanted to give myself an out on oscar is case this thing goes south (which it does not appear possible as long as Foster is here and healthy).
It's sports for god's sake. The point is to win. The dude is winning and has the pieces in place to win for several years (as you already pointed out). If 2017 rolls around, Foster & Co. are gone, and we start sucking balls, we fire him. Just like Illinois did. Just like we did with Prince. Just like every school does when its coach starts sucking. The days of Weiser/Wefald/Krause indifference are in the past. Enjoy the winning now, support the coach and players now. If or when we start losing or systematically blowing in the NCAA, we're all free to jump on #TBID. There's no rule against it. It's sports. You can support a winner and kick him to the curb when he starts losing.
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I realize that it will take at least that long to evaluate sustainability. The end of his Illinois tenure completely terrifies me and is probably the main reason why I have not jumped on in full support (La Salle, No Co, Charlotte, Angel and Josh Gray making up the remainder).
We are stuck with oscar for the long haul. No coach is getting fired from here after winning a conference title and beating KU in their first two seasons, at least not without several years of suck. I just wanted to give myself an out on oscar is case this thing goes south (which it does not appear possible as long as Foster is here and healthy).
It's sports for god's sake. The point is to win. The dude is winning and has the pieces in place to win for several years (as you already pointed out). If 2017 rolls around, Foster & Co. are gone, and we start sucking balls, we fire him. Just like Illinois did. Just like we did with Prince. Just like every school does when its coach starts sucking. The days of Weiser/Wefald/Krause indifference are in the past. Enjoy the winning now, support the coach and players now. If or when we start losing or systematically blowing in the NCAA, we're all free to jump on #TBID. There's no rule against it. It's sports. You can support a winner and kick him to the curb when he starts losing.
I agree. The only reason I was on BID was because I expected to start losing this year. Winning solves everything. Go oscar. Go State. Go Cats.
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I just didn't like the hire mainly because I was pissed about Frank. I was always a huge Huggins fan and wanted to keep that connection. But between Weber bringing in talent and Illinois looking like complete crap. I'm in the go cats camp. I do like that KU fans seem to dislike him much more than Frank, I find that to be pretty endearing.
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oscar's worst case scenario is he takes the same career path as Matt Painter. I wouldn't be shocked if Matt Painter spends a year in Manhattan sometime soon.
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*tucks in shirt*
First of all, I think "Burn it down" is a terrible way to describe people who opposed the hire. It's been referenced by oscar supporters far more than his detractors. I referenced "burning it down" exactly once, the afternoon oscar was hired and never referenced it again, (you can check my posts):
I support this idea, kougar. burn the rough rider down and fire Currie before he leaves next year after Weber courageously leads us to an 11 seed and Jeff Goodman says he was right all along.
But keep in mind that a day later, _FAN posted this:
I've decided that if you took Asbury and combined him with Wooly pretty much what you get is oscar Weber.
so I think I look pretty reasonable.
Still ,I think hiring oscar was the wrong move (even now). I give him full credit for sticking with Foster and leading to a great season, but I honestly had more fun (overall) when Frank was our coach.
Why? I don't know. I'm sure part of the reason I don't enjoy watching games under oscar as much is because I don't like the fact that he was hired, but I didn't like rehiring Bill and I definitely have loved the crap out of the last 3 seasons. Part of it's that I never go to games any more.
But I also liked the style of play more under Frank - taking advantage of transition and penetration, taking risks on defense, I honestly thought we played harder than everyone, and there wasn't a team tougher. I enjoyed watching players develop under Greenawaldt and seeing the team struggle through random benchings and tough wins against teams like FHSU. Also even at his peak a lot of KSU folks didn't like him (obviously), which made it seem like every game mattered more. Everything just seemed more intense, which made the seasons more fun to me. I mean, even though we won the conference last season, the games were pretty boring outside of 2 or 3 and I had more fun during Frank's run in 2012 to seal the tourney appearance.
So it isn't JUST about wins for me. Who really gives a eff?
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*tucks in shirt*
First of all, I think "Burn it down" is a terrible way to describe people who opposed the hire. It's been referenced by oscar supporters far more than his detractors. I referenced "burning it down" exactly once, the afternoon oscar was hired and never referenced it again, (you can check my posts):
I support this idea, kougar. burn the rough rider down and fire Currie before he leaves next year after Weber courageously leads us to an 11 seed and Jeff Goodman says he was right all along.
But keep in mind that a day later, _FAN posted this:
I've decided that if you took Asbury and combined him with Wooly pretty much what you get is oscar Weber.
so I think I look pretty reasonable.
Still ,I think hiring oscar was the wrong move (even now). I give him full credit for sticking with Foster and leading to a great season, but I honestly had more fun (overall) when Frank was our coach.
Why? I don't know. I'm sure part of the reason I don't enjoy watching games under oscar as much is because I don't like the fact that he was hired, but I didn't like rehiring Bill and I definitely have loved the crap out of the last 3 seasons. Part of it's that I never go to games any more.
But I also liked the style of play more under Frank - taking advantage of transition and penetration, taking risks on defense, I honestly thought we played harder than everyone, and there wasn't a team tougher. I enjoyed watching players develop under Greenawaldt and seeing the team struggle through random benchings and tough wins against teams like FHSU. Also even at his peak a lot of KSU folks didn't like him (obviously), which made it seem like every game mattered more. Everything just seemed more intense, which made the seasons more fun to me. I mean, even though we won the conference last season, the games were pretty boring outside of 2 or 3 and I had more fun during Frank's run in 2012 to seal the tourney appearance.
So it isn't JUST about wins for me. Who really gives a eff?
I thought last year was sort of underwhelming because the Big 12 wasn't very good and we didn't beat very many good teams. This year, though? This year has been a blast. Even if we don't end up Big 12 Champs, this year has been way more fun that last, and I feel much better about our chances in the tournament.
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this year has definitely been more fun than last
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this year has definitely been more fun than last
I have become emotionally uninvested at least a small amt over the last year and a half. Probably due to that, and the way we started this year, I have been feeling like conference play has been playing with house money and just let myself be entertained. It's been great the last month and a half.
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The fact that oscar brought us a conf championship in his first year makes it worth it to me. It would have taken a miracle for Frank to do the same.
Combine this with Illinois and South Carolina sucking make me think we won :emawkid:
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Every time I read about the BID team, all I see is this: :Booty Shake:
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Every time I read about the BID team, all I see is this: :Booty Shake:
along with some of this :blah: mixed with this :angry:
give it up already, can't you all see what fools you look like?
guess it's not just about winning for me . . . :ROFL:
last year and a half just hasn't been as much fun . . . :ROFL:
so much more fun to watch frank's teams play . . . :ROFL:
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I still hate the hire. That KU win will hurt us in the long run.
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I still hate the hire. That KU win will hurt us in the long run.
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Okay team, go out and play hard, but lets not win this, it will hurt us in the long run. :lol:
JFC :facepalm:
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I still hate the hire. That KU win will hurt us in the long run.
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Okay team, go out and play hard, but lets not win this, it will hurt us in the long run. :lol:
JFC :facepalm:
:flush:
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I still hate the hire. That KU win will hurt us in the long run.
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Okay team, go out and play hard, but lets not win this, it will hurt us in the long run. :lol:
JFC :facepalm:
Try to keep up, boondock.
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lol @ teambid. you guys thought frank was a good coach :lol:
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I still hate the hire. That KU win will hurt us in the long run.
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Foster is only a freshman, and I really don't care if it somehow hurts us 4 years from now.
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It was a bad hire that seems to be working out.
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It was a bad hire that seems to be working out.
:Purple Koolaid:
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I still hate the hire. That KU win will hurt us in the long run.
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Beating a top 10 team , hurt us in the long run ? :facepalm: :lol: that is downright effing stupid.
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I still hate the hire. That KU win will hurt us in the long run.
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Beating a top 10 team , hurt us in the long run ? :facepalm: :lol: that is downright effing stupid.
From an outside perspective here, I think this disagreement could come down to not having ksufans.com quotes readily available.
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Anyone who thinks oscar was a bad hire is really, really dumb. Like so incredibly dumb.
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I still hate the hire. That KU win will hurt us in the long run.
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Beating a top 10 team , hurt us in the long run ? :facepalm: :lol: that is downright effing stupid.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcjonline.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Feditorial%2Fimages%2F200908%2F22883_web_081009-ron-prince-lede.jpg&hash=788a471f6d87217a9e3e6cbbdce6933218c76ba5)
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I still hate the hire. That KU win will hurt us in the long run.
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Beating a top 10 team , hurt us in the long run ? :facepalm: :lol: that is downright effing stupid.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcjonline.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Feditorial%2Fimages%2F200908%2F22883_web_081009-ron-prince-lede.jpg&hash=788a471f6d87217a9e3e6cbbdce6933218c76ba5)
We fired him in only three years i.e. He didn't hurt us in the long run i.e. your post didn't make any sense.
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I still hate the hire. That KU win will hurt us in the long run.
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Beating a top 10 team , hurt us in the long run ? :facepalm: :lol: that is downright effing stupid.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcjonline.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Feditorial%2Fimages%2F200908%2F22883_web_081009-ron-prince-lede.jpg&hash=788a471f6d87217a9e3e6cbbdce6933218c76ba5)
We fired him in only three years i.e. He didn't hurt us in the long run i.e. your post didn't make any sense.
http://www.kansas.com/2011/05/06/1838922/prince-lawyer-kansas-state-to.html
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burn it down
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LOL oscar
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Welcome back, idiots
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The histrionics on this board is :lol: worthy. So high after a win over KU so low after a crappy loss at Baylor.
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:jerk:
one missed FT or nino's pt blank layup (again), and BIDr's are back to suck franks dick. :rolleyes:
But! What if!
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:buh-bye:
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Just a god awful loss, oscar should learn to coach the second half of a road game.
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I still hate the hire. That KU win will hurt us in the long run.
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Beating a top 10 team , hurt us in the long run ? :facepalm: :lol: that is downright effing stupid.
From an outside perspective here, I think this disagreement could come down to not having ksufans.com quotes readily available.
Yeah. A little esoteric now, I guess.
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This is why I only moved to the fence after KU.
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so low after a crappy loss at Baylor.
The 2006 BBSing after a similar loss in Waco was pretty fantastic.
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I don't think the KU win is going to hurt us, but only help the maturity of the team (that they can get it done). Last year KU lost to TCU on the road, but it doesn't look as if the win helped their team. That win may have hurt them. There is a ton of difference between our team and TCU.
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so low after a crappy loss at Baylor.
The 2006 BBSing after a similar loss in Waco was pretty fantastic.
IIRC, that was your final straw on Wooly
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I don't think the KU win is going to hurt us, but only help the maturity of the team (that they can get it done). Last year KU lost to TCU on the road, but it doesn't look as if the win helped their team. That win may have hurt them. There is a ton of difference between our team and TCU.
Everything you wrote here is really stupid. FYI.
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I don't think the KU win is going to hurt us, but only help the maturity of the team (that they can get it done). Last year KU lost to TCU on the road, but it doesn't look as if the win helped their team. That win may have hurt them. There is a ton of difference between our team and TCU.
Everything you wrote here is really stupid. FYI.
Leave him alone. He's like 80.
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I don't think the KU win is going to hurt us, but only help the maturity of the team (that they can get it done). Last year KU lost to TCU on the road, but it doesn't look as if the win helped their team. That win may have hurt them. There is a ton of difference between our team and TCU.
Everything you wrote here is really stupid. FYI.
Leave him alone. He's like 80.
Yeah man, you wouldn't talk to DeVere that way with all he's been through
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I don't think the KU win is going to hurt us, but only help the maturity of the team (that they can get it done). Last year KU lost to TCU on the road, but it doesn't look as if the win helped their team. That win may have hurt them. There is a ton of difference between our team and TCU.
Everything you wrote here is really stupid. FYI.
Leave him alone. He's like 80.
Yeah man, you wouldn't talk to DeVere that way with all he's been through
My favorite part of 60scat's post is the fact that he put 4 spaces in between each sentence. :lol:
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well I put two spaces between and have been called old for it (we've got a thread somewhere...) so I should probably be up to four spaces in another 30 years or so
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well I put two spaces between and have been called old for it (we've got a thread somewhere...) so I should probably be up to four spaces in another 30 years or so
:D
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SINCE DAY ONE
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SINCE DAY ONE
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the day I met @scottwildcat
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well I put two spaces between and have been called old for it (we've got a thread somewhere...) so I should probably be up to four spaces in another 30 years or so
same :frown:
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Christopher Chrisoffersen (http://cjonline.com/news/2014-03-05/manhattan-man-sets-fire-another-person-who-escapes-serious-injury)
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Christopher Chrisoffersen (http://cjonline.com/news/2014-03-05/manhattan-man-sets-fire-another-person-who-escapes-serious-injury)
#acting
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Pretty sure I know that guy.
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#teamburnitdown Knicks edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYTSnzNFwCk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYTSnzNFwCk)
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:ump:
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:ump:
Wait till Sunday, I might be back.
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well whaddya know.
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to the bid's that have answered the call, I won't even laugh at you if things go the way I expect, for I respect you standing up for what you believe. For those that hide in the shadows only to take potshots after the fact, I will expose you to the light of day. As has been repeated on and on and on, this is not a battle it is a war, and it will be a long one. The bid's have set a high standard for success, we must wait until all of Franks guys are gone before we can judge, I will honor this (it is unreasonable but I will honor it). Why then do I troll before we know the results, because what fun would it be after we know? I am prepared to be ridiculed if I am wrong (i'm not by the way). It is equally important that the Northface crowd have their noses rubbed in their feces when they are proved wrong. There are currently rats jumping the bid ship, and other more wiley rats hedging their bets, and massaging their bid stance. This was to be expected, what they have seen now and has them worried is that 1. oscar coaches great offensive basketball for the talent level you get at k-state. 2. oscar coaches good defense. and 3. oscar's 13 recruits are on par with what we have had since groat. These three reasons are why the smart and wiley bid's stay away from this topic.
:D
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I'm now team "open all of the windows and let nature have at it"
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to the bid's that have answered the call, I won't even laugh at you if things go the way I expect, for I respect you standing up for what you believe. For those that hide in the shadows only to take potshots after the fact, I will expose you to the light of day. As has been repeated on and on and on, this is not a battle it is a war, and it will be a long one. The bid's have set a high standard for success, we must wait until all of Franks guys are gone before we can judge, I will honor this (it is unreasonable but I will honor it). Why then do I troll before we know the results, because what fun would it be after we know? I am prepared to be ridiculed if I am wrong (i'm not by the way). It is equally important that the Northface crowd have their noses rubbed in their feces when they are proved wrong. There are currently rats jumping the bid ship, and other more wiley rats hedging their bets, and massaging their bid stance. This was to be expected, what they have seen now and has them worried is that 1. oscar coaches great offensive basketball for the talent level you get at k-state. 2. oscar coaches good defense. and 3. oscar's 13 recruits are on par with what we have had since groat. These three reasons are why the smart and wiley bid's stay away from this topic.
:D
pouring water on a titanium fire
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(https://countryliving4beginners.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/hand_raising.jpg)
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Yep.
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:ump:
Wait till Sunday, I might be back.
Well :impatient:
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I don't care enough to burn it down.
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Welp, oscar coaxed me onto the fence with the KU win last year and I'm happily (angrily? whatever) jumping back off to team burn it down. I didn't think it was possible for this team to be this bad but here we are.
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I don't care enough to burn it down.
You were the basketball fan guy tho :frown:
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I don't care enough to burn it down.
You were the basketball fan guy tho :frown:
All in on #DUBNATION!!
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:alleyoop:
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Yep.
When you lose _Fan, you are a dead man walking.
Also,
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The last I remember of this, there was like zero agreement on what burnitdown even meant.
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i've been 100% BID since the hire, but i'm hopping off. this team and staff are so shitty that they are entertaining to me and you have oscar doing and saying oscar stuff which is just like the cherry. it's all just very funny. they can now stay for eternity as far as i'm concerned.
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I am all in.....BID...the whole effing thing
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I'm on board with this train.
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Pete, does your banner guy have an office in San Antonio?
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I've started rooting against them. Only way to keep sanity while watching this trash (and I was even loyal throughout the Asbury/Woolly years...). If we're going to be terrible, we might as well go all in and lose out.
BID!
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But seriously, I'm in for $100 for a banner at the spring game
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But seriously, I'm in for $100 for a banner at the spring game
see how fun this is? a regular coach just would've won this game and we'd all just be getting ready to watch 60 minutes or whatever but oscar has us bbsing with zeal. a vote for oscar is a vote for entertainment. dance monkey oscar! dance! :Woot:
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gooch and clams should fly a banner at the food during the ku game with their new 'copters
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Somebody needs to write BID on oscar's game clipboard, the one he uses to draw up bigtime winning plays.
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i've been 100% BID since the hire, but i'm hopping off. this team and staff are so shitty that they are entertaining to me and you have oscar doing and saying oscar stuff which is just like the cherry. it's all just very funny. they can now stay for eternity as far as i'm concerned.
i forgot to watch oscar (the scoreboard is very distracting), but the oncourt product (@trim) was quite amusing.
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Isn't it too late for some sort of burn it down scenario?
whatever
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Season is kenpoming along just swell
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Isn't it too late for some sort of burn it down scenario?
whatever
Never too late, better to bleed out quickly than slowly hermmorage
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Isn't it too late for some sort of burn it down scenario?
whatever
As firemen say, it's "fully involved." So, yeah, it's hopeless whether it burns to the ground or not.
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Whatever you do, don't say Weber doesn't care about the fans. He burned it down so we wouldn't have to.
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I hated the Weber hire, but winning a conference championship (the first in 30 years) is a big deal to me. I'm not there yet, considering his success last two years.
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stfu steffy
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stfu steffy
This
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I hated the Weber hire, but winning a conference championship (the first in 30 years) is a big deal to me. I'm not there yet, considering his success last two years.
Karl Kstate, here, represents why you are married to oscar for another 4-5 years.
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I hated the Weber hire, but winning a conference championship (the first in 30 years) is a big deal to me. I'm not there yet, considering his success last two years.
Thanks Steffy, you're proving my theory that the tucks are why K-State can't have nice things as an athletic department.
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I hated the Weber hire, but winning a conference championship (the first in 30 years) is a big deal to me. I'm not there yet, considering his success last two years.
Karl Kstate, here, represents why you are married to oscar for another 4-5 years.
Agreed he is part of problem, disagree his group can save Duce Weber for that long
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I hated the Weber hire, but winning a conference championship (the first in 30 years) is a big deal to me. I'm not there yet, considering his success last two years.
Karl Kstate, here, represents why you are married to oscar for another 4-5 years.
I think Spracne is right. We don't deserve better than oscar, do we?
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I hated the Weber hire, but winning a conference championship (the first in 30 years) is a big deal to me. I'm not there yet, considering his success last two years.
Karl Kstate, here, represents why you are married to oscar for another 4-5 years.
Agreed he is part of problem, disagree his group can save Duce Weber for that long
I think oscar will win enough games here and there to keep the main-floor pitchforks at bay while tormenting the basementeers.
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Agreed he is part of problem, disagree his group can save Duce Weber for that long
il duce?! :surprised:
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I hated the Weber hire, but winning a conference championship (the first in 30 years) is a big deal to me. I'm not there yet, considering his success last two years.
Karl Kstate, here, represents why you are married to oscar for another 4-5 years.
Agreed he is part of problem, disagree his group can save Duce Weber for that long
I think oscar will win enough games here and there to keep the main-floor pitchforks at bay while tormenting the basementeers.
I guess we are going to find out.
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I hated the Weber hire, but winning a conference championship (the first in 30 years) is a big deal to me. I'm not there yet, considering his success last two years.
Karl Kstate, here, represents why you are married to oscar for another 4-5 years.
Agreed he is part of problem, disagree his group can save Duce Weber for that long
I think oscar will win enough games here and there to keep the main-floor pitchforks at bay while tormenting the basementeers.
True. He'll probably win like 5 league games and sweep KU.
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DNR entire Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thread, but jfc there are like twenty threads already identifying #TBID members
And this one is the one that keeps getting bumped... goEMAW really has gone to crap
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I hated the Weber hire, but winning a conference championship (the first in 30 years) is a big deal to me. I'm not there yet, considering his success last two years.
Karl Kstate, here, represents why you are married to oscar for another 4-5 years.
Agreed he is part of problem, disagree his group can save Duce Weber for that long
I think oscar will win enough games here and there to keep the main-floor pitchforks at bay while tormenting the basementeers.
True. He'll probably win like 5 league games and sweep KU.
Talk about worst case scenarios. Good grief, the tucks would call for a 5 year extension.
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If this team of worthless pussies gets a win against Self's worst team ever (which is still light years better than anything oscar could ever scrape together), the tucks will bukkake all over Currie's chest.
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:blank:
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I never left the #BID station... :gocho: but mostly..... :blindfold: actually all.... :frown:
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In for $100 on a banner
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In for $100 on a banner
You'd have to fly it inside Bramlage behind a drone.
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In for $100 on a banner
You'd have to fly it inside Bramlage behind a drone.
Just need a row of students to hold it up
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It will get desired result at a football game
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Panel truck
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billboard
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sky writing
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I hate to waste funds on basketball, but if we have to do it, then we have to do it.
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I hate to waste funds on basketball, but if we have to do it, then we have to do it.
How much are we actually talking about? Could raise pretty quick
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I'm all in. I need sign ideas for the upcoming conference games in which we will get mumped up. Something that won't get me thrown out of the game, but gets the point across.
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I'm all in. I need sign ideas for the upcoming conference games in which we will get mumped up. Something that won't get me thrown out of the game, but gets the point across.
That rules out any of my ideas.
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Sign with Doom on one side and blank on the other. Take a marker in too. Make the real sign in your seat. "Fire oscar".
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Various versions of "Fire oscar" chants by the student section would be nice.
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I'm all in. I need sign ideas for the upcoming conference games in which we will get mumped up. Something that won't get me thrown out of the game, but gets the point across.
BETTER GET THE HOTEL ROOM IN DALLAS READY
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Brad
undeRwood
mUst
Coach
k-statE
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We
dEserve
Better
thEn
webeR
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We
dEserve
Better
thEn
webeR
Not with a sign like that you don't.
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just spit ballin here spracne, some ideas are good, some not so good
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just spit ballin here spracne, some ideas are good, some not so good
True, true. Some ideas are better then others.
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just spit ballin here spracne, some ideas are good, some not so good
True, true. Some ideas are better then others.
weber doesnt have an a so get off it
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just spit ballin here spracne, some ideas are good, some not so good
True, true. Some ideas are better then others.
weber doesnt have an a so get off it
Or just roll with it, if you want to look like a mormon.
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CAN
YOU
REALLY
RETAIN
SIMPLETON
WEBER ?????????????????
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"There is only 3500 ppl here 'cause oscar"
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Bring
Us
Really
New
Individual
To
Dominate
Octagon
Win
Now
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"Your coach is better than our coach"
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Trade'ja coaches
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Exuret Eam Igni
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I hated the Weber hire, but winning a conference championship (the first in 30 years) is a big deal to me. I'm not there yet, considering his success last two years.
Zero tournament wins, tho.
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No sign, just hold one of those poles with the flame on the top like they carry when they go to the tribal council on survivor (do they still do that?).
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All students should wear neckbraces.
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All students should wear neckbraces.
With #BID written on them.
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sorry mocat, tay is absent from tonight's roll
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Just don't go to anymore games
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You have to take it further than going to games, you have to stop buying season tickets.
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I hated the Weber hire, but winning a conference championship (the first in 30 years) is a big deal to me. I'm not there yet, considering his success last two years.
Zero tournament wins, tho.
and it's a mirror image of what happened at Illinois. First year was all :Woohoo:, downhill since.
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Think of the money you guys will save by not buying season tickets next year. I sure as hell am not!
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Think of the money you guys will save by not buying season tickets next year. I sure as hell am not!
us having extra money is not the issue.
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WGAF about that amt of money? Would rather a good team.
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Did not know we had a game today. Did not care when I found out 2 minutes ago on goEMAW.com that we lost. I wish I was really mad about it because I think rage works better than apathy when it comes to forcing coaching changes. If no one cares than there is no pressure on those in charge. And if I don't care I bet there are tons of ppl that also don't care.
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Did not know we had a game today. Did not care when I found out 2 minutes ago on goEMAW.com that we lost. I wish I was really mad about it because I think rage works better than apathy when it comes to forcing coaching changes. If no one cares than there is no pressure on those in charge. And if I don't care I bet there are tons of ppl that also don't care.
You could try to be angry that you've had a fun part of your life taken from you, while still being apathetic to the day-to-day results of the hoopcats. :dunno:
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Did not know we had a game today. Did not care when I found out 2 minutes ago on goEMAW.com that we lost. I wish I was really mad about it because I think rage works better than apathy when it comes to forcing coaching changes. If no one cares than there is no pressure on those in charge. And if I don't care I bet there are tons of ppl that also don't care.
You could try to be angry that you've had a fun part of your life taken from you, while still being apathetic to the day-to-day results of the hoopcats. :dunno:
I'll give it a shot. Probably not until tomorrow though.
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I hated the Weber hire, but winning a conference championship (the first in 30 years) is a big deal to me. I'm not there yet, considering his success last two years.
Zero tournament wins, tho.
and it's a mirror image of what happened at Illinois. First year was all :Woohoo:, downhill since.
Just let it play out. Yes, these two months of basketball have sucked. And yes, the prospects for turning this year around seem remote, given the lack of effort by our players. But this board's reaction makes it seem like you want Weber to fail; and that's weird.
Like I said, I hated the hire. But I would rather be wrong than spend my time hoping/pushing for Weber's firing.
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given the lack of effort by our players.
just couldn't help yourself, could you?
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I hated the Weber hire, but winning a conference championship (the first in 30 years) is a big deal to me. I'm not there yet, considering his success last two years.
Zero tournament wins, tho.
and it's a mirror image of what happened at Illinois. First year was all :Woohoo:, downhill since.
Just let it play out. Yes, these two months of basketball have sucked. And yes, the prospects for turning this year around seem remote, given the lack of effort by our players. But this board's reaction makes it seem like you want Weber to fail; and that's weird.
Like I said, I hated the hire. But I would rather be wrong than spend my time hoping/pushing for Weber's firing.
Screw oscar. Fire him yesterday.
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I report ready for duty.
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given the lack of effort by our players.
just couldn't help yourself, could you?
I mean, it's painfully obvious, isn't it? But that's on Weber. It's his responsibility to make sure our guys play hard.
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given the lack of effort by our players.
just couldn't help yourself, could you?
I mean, it's painfully obvious, isn't it? But that's on Weber. It's his responsibility to make sure our guys play hard.
actually... yes...
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JFC, just went back and read the last 4 pages. STFU steffy.
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At least he's learned from his mistakes.
It is what is.
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Total loser
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we need a j-dub press conference in currie's office
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I don't care enough to burn it down.
I think you do, you'll hit your breaking point all of a sudden and snap; just like I did.
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sorry mocat, tay is absent from tonight's roll
Did my exchange with tay make one of the twitter threads? I thought he was going to block me and say mean things but he seems like he is really dead inside. It's sad :cry:
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just his general "company man" comments afterwards. enjoyed your tgbtg interaction
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Those of you in MHK should be doing more.
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just his general "company man" comments afterwards. enjoyed your tgbtg interaction
:Wha: :curse: I just saw his later posts and now I mad. I'm going back in, this may not end well.
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I missed all the tay stuff
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I missed all the tay stuff
He's being very passive-aggressive and its very frustrating/maddening. You don't picture the guys you think are studs as wimps. I'd rather he say nothing.
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I missed all the tay stuff
He's being very passive-aggressive and its very frustrating/maddening. You don't picture the guys you think are studs as wimps. I'd rather he say nothing.
Yes, he should have just ignored stuff, but he's close to the situation because he not only played, but worked with the staff for a year. He isn't going out of his way to defend them, but he's not going to run them down.
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mods, change _FANs name to ksu_FWN immediately
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My sig will be very representative of oscar and this team during conference play this season.
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Did not know we had a game today. Did not care when I found out 2 minutes ago on goEMAW.com that we lost. I wish I was really mad about it because I think rage works better than apathy when it comes to forcing coaching changes. If no one cares than there is no pressure on those in charge. And if I don't care I bet there are tons of ppl that also don't care.
#teamcanary
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I missed all the tay stuff
He's being very passive-aggressive and its very frustrating/maddening. You don't picture the guys you think are studs as wimps. I'd rather he say nothing.
oh well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByOGQiYHzLE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByOGQiYHzLE)
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I missed all the tay stuff
He's being very passive-aggressive and its very frustrating/maddening. You don't picture the guys you think are studs as wimps. I'd rather he say nothing.
oh well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByOGQiYHzLE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByOGQiYHzLE)
PG throwing the ball in :surprised:
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I missed all the tay stuff
He's being very passive-aggressive and its very frustrating/maddening. You don't picture the guys you think are studs as wimps. I'd rather he say nothing.
oh well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByOGQiYHzLE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByOGQiYHzLE)
PG throwing the ball in :surprised:
does it make a difference that vs Baylor, we were trying to score on the same end of the court?
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i don't think it does, but just wanted to pose the question
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I missed all the tay stuff
He's being very passive-aggressive and its very frustrating/maddening. You don't picture the guys you think are studs as wimps. I'd rather he say nothing.
oh well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByOGQiYHzLE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByOGQiYHzLE)
PG throwing the ball in :surprised:
does it make a difference that vs Baylor, we were trying to score on the same end of the court?
I don't think it matters much either way, just making an observation.
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art inbounded the ball all the time. not to bring the ball up the court, but pretty much anytime they wanted to try and score on the inbounds play. can't remember so clearly before that, but i'm pretty sure that pullen threw the pass to mcgruder to hit the shot in the corner. against texas i think. so he probably did it frequently.
inbounding the ball on a play where they're trying to score, but over the length of the court is sort of a special situation. i can understand why you'd want whoever you think is your best passer inbounding the ball, regardless of his size.
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DOOM is where the art is.
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It breaks my heart that that pass was thrown by "whoever [oscar] think
is [his] best passer". For at least a couple of different reasons.
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PG inbounding isn't uncommon. I have more of an issue with our defense on the last play. You put your longest guy on the ball so a pass into the paint is very tough. It was way too easy for that guy to catch in there.
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PG inbounding isn't uncommon. I have more of an issue with our defense on the last play. You put your longest guy on the ball so a pass into the paint is very tough. It was way too easy for that guy to catch in there.
No I have more of an issue with fouling the three point shooter.
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PG inbounding isn't uncommon. I have more of an issue with our defense on the last play. You put your longest guy on the ball so a pass into the paint is very tough. It was way too easy for that guy to catch in there.
No I have more of an issue with fouling the three point shooter.
actually, I have more of an issue with not getting the rebound on the intentional miss and no one recovering to challenge the shot
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PG inbounding isn't uncommon. I have more of an issue with our defense on the last play. You put your longest guy on the ball so a pass into the paint is very tough. It was way too easy for that guy to catch in there.
No I have more of an issue with fouling the three point shooter.
actually, I have more of an issue with not getting the rebound on the intentional miss and no one recovering to challenge the shot
No, I think my biggest issue is that after all of this, we probably should have played for OT. I know we want to work on these types of plays but we can't afford lessons like this.
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PG inbounding isn't uncommon. I have more of an issue with our defense on the last play. You put your longest guy on the ball so a pass into the paint is very tough. It was way too easy for that guy to catch in there.
No I have more of an issue with fouling the three point shooter.
actually, I have more of an issue with not getting the rebound on the intentional miss and no one recovering to challenge the shot
No, I think my biggest issue is that after all of this, we probably should have played for OT. I know we want to work on these types of plays but we can't afford lessons like this.
nah, you're right, FAN, the defense on the inbound play was the worst
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PG inbounding isn't uncommon. I have more of an issue with our defense on the last play. You put your longest guy on the ball so a pass into the paint is very tough. It was way too easy for that guy to catch in there.
No I have more of an issue with fouling the three point shooter.
actually, I have more of an issue with not getting the rebound on the intentional miss and no one recovering to challenge the shot
No, I think my biggest issue is that after all of this, we probably should have played for OT. I know we want to work on these types of plays but we can't afford lessons like this.
nah, you're right, FAN, the defense on the inbound play was the worst
I was only talking about the inbound plays which the coach has a little more control over. And yes, not playing for OT was a worse decision by oscar than the defense on the last pay. All the other stuff you listed was equally if not more dumb, but that is stuff taught long before it happens on the floor. Or at least it should be.
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Oops.
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I have a problem with the whole game....not just one particular play...... :Yuck: :sdeek: :buh-bye: :flush: :curse: :lol: :jerk: :bawl:
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I have a problem with the whole game....not just one particular play...... :Yuck: :sdeek: :buh-bye: :flush: :curse: :lol: :jerk: :bawl:
correct. not having a 20 pt lead was by far the worst of the last minute mistakes.
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I'm just goofing off you dweebs.
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I'm just goofing off you dweebs.
everyone knows that, you dweebs.
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The first 3 minutes were pretty ok.
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At least the choke was a team effort and not just all on one player.
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At least the choke was a team effort and not just all on one player.
I really enjoyed dax trying to lay it all on Nino (frank player)
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Plus bonus for the spanishy sounding name!
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At least the choke was a team effort and not just all on one player.
I really enjoyed dax trying to lay it all on Nino (frank player)
I'm sure surprised dax didn't choose Jevon. I mean the foul and the turnover?
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the original #agendite?
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the original #agendite?
no question
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Point guard inbounding the ball in the front court absolutely makes a difference. I think the point guard should always inbound the ball in the front court. Your inbounds play should either lead to a score or initiate your offense. In theory your point guard is your best ball handler so they should be the first to touch it in the back court. Having your point guard throw the ball to a forward only to have that forward throw it back to the point guard in the back court is just as if not more inefficient than a 19 foot jumper.
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Point guard inbounding the ball in the front court absolutely makes a difference. I think the point guard should always inbound the ball in the front court. Your inbounds play should either lead to a score or initiate your offense. In theory your point guard is your best ball handler so they should be the first to touch it in the back court. Having your point guard throw the ball to a forward only to have that forward throw it back to the point guard in the back court is just as if not more inefficient than a 19 foot jumper.
Yeah, that doesn't apply to the play in question.
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Point guard inbounding the ball in the front court absolutely makes a difference. I think the point guard should always inbound the ball in the front court. Your inbounds play should either lead to a score or initiate your offense. In theory your point guard is your best ball handler so they should be the first to touch it in the back court. Having your point guard throw the ball to a forward only to have that forward throw it back to the point guard in the back court is just as if not more inefficient than a 19 foot jumper.
Yeah, that doesn't apply to the play in question.
I wasn't talking about any particular play but I'm not sure how this doesn't apply to the question mocat asked.
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What a pickle
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Point guard inbounding the ball in the front court absolutely makes a difference. I think the point guard should always inbound the ball in the front court. Your inbounds play should either lead to a score or initiate your offense. In theory your point guard is your best ball handler so they should be the first to touch it in the back court. Having your point guard throw the ball to a forward only to have that forward throw it back to the point guard in the back court is just as if not more inefficient than a 19 foot jumper.
Yeah, that doesn't apply to the play in question.
I wasn't talking about any particular play but I'm not sure how this doesn't apply to the question mocat asked.
Okie dokey
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:shakesfist:
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$150 for spring game banner
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Sure, why not
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I've never been able in my life to cheer against K-state. But it seems oscar has left me no alternative.
This sucks guys.
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Sup
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JamSam is on #BurnItDown
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Because he's an enormous stud who our fanbase didn't deserve
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Jamar gets it and he is thousands of miles away. WTF is wrong with the locals?
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$150 for spring game banner
Spring game? That's way too late.
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I don't care what Dara and the tuckfinos think about me. I'm on #burnitdown.
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Because he's an enormous stud who our fanbase didn't deserve
I deserved the eff out of him
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Loved jamsam
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I'm here to sign up for #BID.
Is there a form or anything I need to sign?
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There was a very important part of our fanbase that deserved the crap out of Jamar Samuels.
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I'm here to sign up for #BID.
Is there a form or anything I need to sign?
I think being here is enough. Welcome.
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$150 for spring game banner
Spring game? That's way too late.
Fake Patty's Day?
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Too bad our bowl game wasn't in an outdoor stadium, the timing and setting would be perfect
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I think I'm in here somewhere, but if not, I am 100% #BurnItDown.
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Do we have heroes on the ground in San Antonio?
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Do we have heroes on the ground in San Antonio?
Winters will be here in a couple days. What do you have in mind?
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Do we have heroes on the ground in San Antonio?
Winters will be here in a couple days. What do you have in mind?
Heroism, but isn't the football game tomorrow?
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Do we have heroes on the ground in San Antonio?
Winters will be here in a couple days. What do you have in mind?
Heroism, but isn't the football game tomorrow?
It is. I'm an idiot, but I know he will be here for the game.
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Banner over KC for Big 12 tourney? Maybe a billboard in downtown KC for the tourney?
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Do we have heroes on the ground in San Antonio?
Winters will be here in a couple days. What do you have in mind?
He's got what should be a winnable a game in Stillwater the next day. His team is stinking up the arena. I get support the school, but his priorities should be elsewhere.
Heroism, but isn't the football game tomorrow?
It is. I'm an idiot, but I know he will be here for the game.
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Banner over KC for Big 12 tourney? Maybe a billboard in downtown KC for the tourney?
Ok
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Banner over KC for Big 12 tourney? Maybe a billboard in downtown KC for the tourney?
Wrong audience.
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Billboard in MHK.
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New fridge magnets
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New fridge magnets
Still waiting on my year two magnet. :dubious:
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Magnets will get the job done. Everyone, especially within the athletic department, pays attention to what we have hanging in our kitchens.
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We need to put them on every car windshield at the KU game
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Alright guys, I'll do the magnets this year. I didn't end up doing it last year because all the ideas kind of sucked....and it's a lot of work ya know? I'm heading to San Antonio today but I'll get to work on them this weekend. I'll need another representative to send them to that can hand them out at the fOOD (Trim?)
Post any ideas you have ITT
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Can't help you with the fOOD. Baseline idea (and easiest) should be to make it the exact same but just add "REALLY" before "too late." It's a subtle message that now it's 2015 and we're still mumped and knew we would be.
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Pink slip with "magic dust" written on it.
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:excited:
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These could be delivered to me and I could get them dispersed.
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Alright guys, I'll do the magnets this year. I didn't end up doing it last year because all the ideas kind of sucked....and it's a lot of work ya know? I'm heading to San Antonio today but I'll get to work on them this weekend. I'll need another representative to send them to that can hand them out at the fOOD (Trim?)
Post any ideas you have ITT
:Wha: :Woohoo:
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:love:
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sleepy-eyed face with a lei.
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How about those Cats? I sure do miss winning.
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If the season continues down this path, I see Currie firing oscar. The way the team is performing and losing (turnovers, shitty defense, losses to really bad teams....all with "Weber's players"), on top of the off-court issues and suspensions...I don't think the situation is something he can afford to ignore. Attendance is down, and season ticket sales will drop next year to a level not seen since Wooly days. A lot of money has been poured into the basketball department over the past 5 years to let the team fall to the bottom of the Big 12. Weber is his hire, and if money talks he will have to do something.
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If the season continues down this path, I see Currie firing oscar. The way the team is performing and losing (turnovers, shitty defense, losses to really bad teams....all with "Weber's players"), on top of the off-court issues and suspensions...I don't think the situation is something he can afford to ignore. Attendance is down, and season ticket sales will drop next year to a level not seen since Wooly days. A lot of money has been poured into the basketball department over the past 5 years to let the team fall to the bottom of the Big 12. Weber is his hire, and if money talks he will have to do something.
Yes, he'll get next year, but if the program continues down this course he won't last more than 2 more seasons at the most. Considering the talent oscar has brought in besides Marcus Foster this looks like a real uphill battle.
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If the season continues down this path, I see Currie firing oscar. The way the team is performing and losing (turnovers, shitty defense, losses to really bad teams....all with "Weber's players"), on top of the off-court issues and suspensions...I don't think the situation is something he can afford to ignore. Attendance is down, and season ticket sales will drop next year to a level not seen since Wooly days. A lot of money has been poured into the basketball department over the past 5 years to let the team fall to the bottom of the Big 12. Weber is his hire, and if money talks he will have to do something.
Yes, he'll get next year, but if the program continues down this course he won't last more than 2 more seasons at the most. Considering the talent oscar has brought in besides Marcus Foster this looks like a real uphill battle.
2 more seasons after this season? eff that. might as well burn down the BPF too, because we won't have any use for it after 2 more years of this.
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If the season continues down this path, I see Currie firing oscar. The way the team is performing and losing (turnovers, shitty defense, losses to really bad teams....all with "Weber's players"), on top of the off-court issues and suspensions...I don't think the situation is something he can afford to ignore. Attendance is down, and season ticket sales will drop next year to a level not seen since Wooly days. A lot of money has been poured into the basketball department over the past 5 years to let the team fall to the bottom of the Big 12. Weber is his hire, and if money talks he will have to do something.
Yes, he'll get next year, but if the program continues down this course he won't last more than 2 more seasons at the most. Considering the talent oscar has brought in besides Marcus Foster this looks like a real uphill battle.
He'll probably show improvement both years.
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If the season continues down this path, I see Currie firing oscar. The way the team is performing and losing (turnovers, shitty defense, losses to really bad teams....all with "Weber's players"), on top of the off-court issues and suspensions...I don't think the situation is something he can afford to ignore. Attendance is down, and season ticket sales will drop next year to a level not seen since Wooly days. A lot of money has been poured into the basketball department over the past 5 years to let the team fall to the bottom of the Big 12. Weber is his hire, and if money talks he will have to do something.
Yes, he'll get next year, but if the program continues down this course he won't last more than 2 more seasons at the most. Considering the talent oscar has brought in besides Marcus Foster this looks like a real uphill battle.
2 more seasons after this season? eff that. might as well burn down the BPF too, because we won't have any use for it after 2 more years of this.
Does anyone really believe oscar will be fired after this season? I mean, hoping it will happen is one thing, but we all know it won't. If next year is an absolute disaster, it might. But 2 more seasons seems like a likely and more realistic scenario.
And if Marcus stays and oscar gets him figured out, next year will likely be better. I'm sure oscar will make his OOC so that it has to be better, oscar isn't dumb.
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My fridge is looking bare, need a magnet...
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This really isn't a #BiD situation anymore, the original #BiD manifesto has come and gone, the current situation is why #BiDers wanted to burn it down.
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If we don't make the NIT and oscar continues to have player problems, I do think he could get fired after this year. oscar is about to lose his team. I don't understand the "let him figure it out" or "give him another year" mentality. This team has forgot how to play using the basic fundamentals of basketball. That is all on poor coaching. He is getting progressively worse with "his guys", and the trajectory of the program is mimicking his tenure at Illinois. Additionally, he was a questionable hire to begin with which (I would hope) puts him on a shorter leash.
I don't know when Foster will come back. We got curb-stomped by the 2nd worst team in the Big 12 last night. Looking ahead to our schedule, I see us maybe winning 1 more if we continue to play like we have (at TCU and that is still questionable). We are staring a 13-18 regular season record right in the face. Would you want to give him a 4th year after that record? Never mind he couldn't win in the first round of the NCAA tournament when they won the Big 12 in his first year.
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for the millionth time and for a million reasons, currie would never fire oscar after this season no matter what happens this season.
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for the millionth time and for a million reasons, currie would never fire oscar after this season no matter what happens this season.
YUP YUP YUP
In all likelihood oscar is here for at least the next five years.
2015 -> Marcus Foster's fault
2016 -> not much actual improvement, team showed grit without senior leadership and a player/scorer like Foster (assuming he leaves) *YOUNG TEAM*
2017 -> slight improvement (maybe win a couple NIT games) *YOUNG TEAM STILL, WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR* oscar gets three year extension
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for the millionth time and for a million reasons, currie would never fire oscar after this season no matter what happens this season.
YUP YUP YUP
In all likelihood oscar is here for at least the next five years.
2015 -> Marcus Foster's fault
2016 -> not much actual improvement, team showed grit without senior leadership and a player/scorer like Foster (assuming he leaves) *YOUNG TEAM*
2017 -> slight improvement (maybe win a couple NIT games) *YOUNG TEAM STILL, WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR* oscar gets three year extension
I think you are overemphasizing Currie's patience with oscar. I really don't think Currie will buy all of that. I get that he'll be patient with oscar because he hired him, but not that patient.
With this season oscar might get fired at a handful of programs like Kentucky or KU, but the majority of ADs would give him at least one more season, especially if they hired him. But at the same time, men's basketball provides too much of a revenue stream to remain overly patient and to expect another Jim Wooldridge scenario isn't realistic either.
But yeah, if oscar even manages an NIT next year, he'll be here for several more years. Next year will be enormous in dictating the length of his tenure at K-State, but I think most of us knew that after he made the NCAAs and won a Big 12 title his first two seasons.
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A program like Illinois would have and did fire him, but then again we have emphatically proclaimed that we have lower standards than Illinois basketball.
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A program like Illinois would have and did fire him, but then again we have emphatically proclaimed that we have lower standards than Illinois basketball.
Come on, Illinois did not fire him in 2008 in a season equally bad (probably worse) than this one. He got 4 more seasons after that.
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currie has to admit he made a mistake when firing oscar this early into his a)initial hiring and b) his extension
currie doesn't want to put himself into the position of having to prove that he's a coach's AD after running a wildly popular coach out of town and then firing his replacement after winning the big 12
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im in for the spring game banner, fwiw.
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If the season continues down this path, I see Currie firing oscar. The way the team is performing and losing (turnovers, shitty defense, losses to really bad teams....all with "Weber's players"), on top of the off-court issues and suspensions...I don't think the situation is something he can afford to ignore. Attendance is down, and season ticket sales will drop next year to a level not seen since Wooly days. A lot of money has been poured into the basketball department over the past 5 years to let the team fall to the bottom of the Big 12. Weber is his hire, and if money talks he will have to do something.
Yes, he'll get next year, but if the program continues down this course he won't last more than 2 more seasons at the most. Considering the talent oscar has brought in besides Marcus Foster this looks like a real uphill battle.
2 more seasons after this season? eff that. might as well burn down the BPF too, because we won't have any use for it after 2 more years of this.
Does anyone really believe oscar will be fired after this season? I mean, hoping it will happen is one thing, but we all know it won't. If next year is an absolute disaster, it might. But 2 more seasons seems like a likely and more realistic scenario.
And if Marcus stays and oscar gets him figured out, next year will likely be better. I'm sure oscar will make his OOC so that it has to be better, oscar isn't dumb.
I know he won't be fired after this season, but if Marcus doesn't come back next year, which seems likely, and we don't make the tourney next season, he should absolutely be fired. All of that should be plenty for the big donors who ponied up for the BPF to make Currie fire him.
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:dunno: Name another program that immediately hired another coach from a major conference school who just got fired for on-the-court reasons?
Do those sound like programs that have high standards?
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im in for the spring game banner, fwiw.
The absolute perfect time. Unfortunately, Sporting Park has more cover than BSFS, but will likely have a slightly larger crowd. Run it before the game also maybe.
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What else can you expect when you immediately hire a coach who just got fired for being shitty? When has that plan ever worked?
Looks like ole Chingon is in rant mode today!
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Look at Nebraska's rough ridin' recruiting class :frown:
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:dunno: Name another program that immediately hired another coach from a major conference school who just got fired for on-the-court reasons?
Do those sound like programs that have high standards?
Well yeah, the hiring of oscar was very questionable. But I think Currie still thinks he made a good hire to at least maintain the level of basketball that K-State was at. The fact that he fired Deb would lead me to believe he won't be overly patient with oscar either.
Also, I thought you were saying Illinois fired him after his first bad season and they did not.
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im in for the spring game banner, fwiw.
The absolute perfect time. Unfortunately, Sporting Park has more cover than BSFS, but will likely have a slightly larger crowd. Run it before the game also maybe.
oh were flying this B? i was just gonna hold it up until someone asked me to leave.
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im in for the spring game banner, fwiw.
The absolute perfect time. Unfortunately, Sporting Park has more cover than BSFS, but will likely have a slightly larger crowd. Run it before the game also maybe.
oh were flying this B? i was just gonna hold it up until someone asked me to leave.
oh, I miss understood. if that's the case, maybe get one the size of the Blue Hell banner and hang it over that?
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WELCOME TO PURPLE HELL (WATCHING oscar WEBER BASKETBALL)
#FIREBRUCE
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WELCOME TO PURPLE HELL (WATCHING oscar WEBER BASKETBALL)
#FIREBRUCE
Yes.
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No freakin way our goals should be NIT........or should it be NCAA. It should be win a game or 2 in NCAA.
I see no positive progression in this program. Each year we have gotten worse. And next year, you can only improve, more than likely, as this season is tanking fast. But improve to what 17-18 wins and an NIT bid? No Way! The AD should be able to tell these players suck, the coaches can't recruit and can't motivate and can't give good instruction.
Our offense looks like no one knows what to do. Gipson still does not know what a double or triple team is.
If we don't make the NCAA's next at the bare minimum, Weber should be fired! But looking at the roster, that is very doubtfull!!
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oscar won't get fired next year.
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I've always believed in PIPE
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I've always believed in PIPE
I've never been able to make it all the way through one of his posts. What did he say?
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I've always believed in PIPE
I've never been able to make it all the way through one of his posts. What did he say?
Just good, solid, accurate information, as usual....... :thumbsup:
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oscar doesn't have much incentive to finish out the year well. He's not getting fired after this season, so he can chalk up as many adversity points as possible for the remainder of the year.
Next year, water down the schedule as much as possible - get to the NIT/extreme bubble NCAAs, and boom - improvement and a 3 year extension.
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So, when is the neckbrace game guys?
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God Damn it i just remembered i forgot to mail 8Man his calendar. It will go out today 8man.
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Look at Nebraska's rough ridin' recruiting class :frown:
http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings (http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings)
He does a good job of targeting Illinois players that are good, but that the rest of the big 10 ignored for the most part. Seems like it should have been right in oscar's wheelhouse.
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God Damn it i just remembered i forgot to mail 8Man his calendar. It will go out today 8man.
Thanks Gooch, it will be very appropriate for the next month or so.
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oscar doesn't have much incentive to finish out the year well. He's not getting fired after this season, so he can chalk up as many adversity points as possible for the remainder of the year.
Next year, water down the schedule as much as possible - get to the NIT/extreme bubble NCAAs, and boom - improvement and a 3 year extension.
I hope you get stranded on a beach tangled in fish netting and sand in your blow-hole. :shakesfist:
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a "fire oscar" tifo-thing at the spring game complete with drums and confetti cannons. then, throughout the game we sing U2 songs with lyrics about how oscar ruined our team and university.
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How long, how long must we sing this song?
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Let the trees have it
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Baylor and Iowa State getting clowned by no names on day one only highlights how horrible oscar is at his job.
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lol
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Baylor and Iowa State getting clowned by no names on day one only highlights how horrible oscar is at his job.
The BIGXII not making it to the second weekend is definitely going to help that perception.
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I think It's highly likely one of KU, OU, WVU makes it to S16
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I wanna see Huggy take WVU deep...just so the sting of life post Huggins/Martin hurts Kstater's the most.
Watching these early games reinforce what we already know:
• Hurt is laughably bad...
• Jevon Thomas would ride pine for teams like, UAB, Georgia State, Dayton, Richmond, ... pretty much any smaller school-lower seed team.
• Foster should go to the NBA.
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Foster wouldn't get drafted by the NBA, dumbass. Not right now.
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Foster wouldn't get drafted by the NBA, dumbass. Not right now.
Convince Marcus.. He believes otherwise... which is the root of the problem right now. DUMBASS
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Foster wouldn't get drafted by the NBA, dumbass. Not right now.
Convince Marcus.. He believes otherwise... which is the root of the problem right now. DUMBASS
I doubt he really thinks that, dumbass. I think he wants to get away from oscar and I don't blame him. Whether that's D league or overseas.
Why do you want anything "stinging" K-State? We've already been stung. I could give two shits less if Huggy wins it all. Good for him. He's an after thought these days.
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DUMBASS
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Weird thread
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DUMBASS
You luke'd this too.
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Weird thread
Yeah.
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$150 for spring game banner
Spring game? That's way too late.
I am in for $50.
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i'd pay $20
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I was talking to my grandfather (age 90.5) this weekend over Easter Brunch. He brought up basketball. Turns out he is firmly on #teamBID.
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You must be pretty old too.
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I met a random guy in New Orleans that went to K-State at a sports bar. He was firmly on #BID
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I don't know a single cat fan thats not on team #BID and I know a lot of tucks. I know you guys keep quoting crap thats on GPC but those guys have to be trolling right? No one can possibly think players leaving is a good thing right?
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I don't know a single cat fan thats not on team #BID and I know a lot of tucks. I know you guys keep quoting crap thats on GPC but those guys have to be trolling right? No one can possibly think players leaving is a good thing right?
Go read our scout site for 5 minutes. It's depressing.
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You must be pretty old too.
I don't think I'm old. Just because my grandfather is in his 90s doesn't make me old. Former President John Tyler still has grandchildren alive and he died in 1872.
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If the majority of the roster had returned - THAT would have been cause for concern.
Next year is a show me year. Either he'll somehow pull it together or it will be a disaster and we'll move on.
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Most everyone is #BID in my experience.
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I haven't attended or watched a single game since Weber was hired....and while it was refreshing to not have to drive an hour to and from games and I had a lot of free time during the winters, it's still depressing that what's happened to the men's basketball program is exactly what the anti-oscar people have said would happen. Both Weber and Currie need to be fired immediately.
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I haven't attended or watched a single game since Weber was hired....and while it was refreshing to not have to drive an hour to and from games and I had a lot of free time during the winters, it's still depressing that what's happened to the men's basketball program is exactly what the anti-oscar people have said would happen. Both Weber and Currie need to be fired immediately.
I don't have much of a problem other than his dipshit oscar hire in the 1st place. oscar is obviously going to get next season after which he needs to can that loser and let somebody else find a coach for him.
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You must be pretty old too.
I don't think I'm old. Just because my grandfather is in his 90s doesn't make me old. Former President John Tyler still has grandchildren alive and he died in 1872.
It's fine if you're old.
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I haven't attended or watched a single game since Weber was hired....and while it was refreshing to not have to drive an hour to and from games and I had a lot of free time during the winters, it's still depressing that what's happened to the men's basketball program is exactly what the anti-oscar people have said would happen. Both Weber and Currie need to be fired immediately.
I don't have much of a problem other than his dipshit oscar hire in the 1st place. oscar is obviously going to get next season after which he needs to can that loser and let somebody else find a coach for him.
But hiring Weber is the only thing that he's done at K-State. All of the money that he's raised was due to the success of Coach Snyder and Coach Martin. The new facilities were built with that money and the money that the new Big 12 tv contracts brought to the school. And if you look around, every other school in the Big 12 is building new facilities or upgrading existing ones, so Currie hasn't done anything that anyone else in his position could have done--except for running off Coach Martin and the Weber hire. Those are really the only two actions that Currie can be judged on.
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OH you guys, oscar's seat just got even colder.
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Has anybody even considered for one second that maybe, just maybe, HCBS is the mastermind behind all of this to distract us this spring from the rebuilding job he is undertaking?
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I haven't attended or watched a single game since Weber was hired....and while it was refreshing to not have to drive an hour to and from games and I had a lot of free time during the winters, it's still depressing that what's happened to the men's basketball program is exactly what the anti-oscar people have said would happen. Both Weber and Currie need to be fired immediately.
I don't have much of a problem other than his dipshit oscar hire in the 1st place. oscar is obviously going to get next season after which he needs to can that loser and let somebody else find a coach for him.
But hiring Weber is the only thing that he's done at K-State. All of the money that he's raised was due to the success of Coach Snyder and Coach Martin. The new facilities were built with that money and the money that the new Big 12 tv contracts brought to the school. And if you look around, every other school in the Big 12 is building new facilities or upgrading existing ones, so Currie hasn't done anything that anyone else in his position could have done--except for running off Coach Martin and the Weber hire. Those are really the only two actions that Currie can be judged on.
Ehh - Max Urick ain't walking in the front door....
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Has anybody even considered for one second that maybe, just maybe, HCBS is the mastermind behind all of this to distract us this spring from the rebuilding job he is undertaking?
:users:
He probably wrote our players handwritten notes from the dope fairy.
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If the majority of the roster had returned - THAT would have been cause for concern.
Next year is a show me year. Either he'll somehow pull it together or it will be a disaster and we'll move on.
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This doesn't even make sense. Were they upset that Pullen was here for four years too? Like, 'Oh too bad we had a veteran player for four years, I'd rather have someone inexperienced play instead.'
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my grandpa is in his 90s too :frown:
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If the majority of the roster had returned - THAT would have been cause for concern.
Next year is a show me year. Either he'll somehow pull it together or it will be a disaster and we'll move on.
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This doesn't even make sense. Were they upset that Pullen was here for four years too? Like, 'Oh too bad we had a veteran player for four years, I'd rather have someone inexperienced play instead.'
It's exactly what _FAN said on Twitter. The maddening part is people are willing to completely change their position on something to adjust it to their own storyline or way of thinking. What was the MAIN reason that many wanted Frank gone is now being lauded as bold and positive for the oscar regime. I hate that I even have to bring up Frank for comparison. I just want the program to be its best going forward, but the hypocrisy is too much to ignore.
Throw in the "want the program to fail" stuff and it's almost unbearable.
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:Wha:
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oh mr bread and his toasty takes
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If the majority of the roster had returned - THAT would have been cause for concern.
Next year is a show me year. Either he'll somehow pull it together or it will be a disaster and we'll move on.
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This doesn't even make sense. Were they upset that Pullen was here for four years too? Like, 'Oh too bad we had a veteran player for four years, I'd rather have someone inexperienced play instead.'
It's exactly what _FAN said on Twitter. The maddening part is people are willing to completely change their position on something to adjust it to their own storyline or way of thinking. What was the MAIN reason that many wanted Frank gone is now being lauded as bold and positive for the oscar regime. I hate that I even have to bring up Frank for comparison. I just want the program to be its best going forward, but the hypocrisy is too much to ignore.
Throw in the "want the program to fail" stuff and it's almost unbearable.
I don't know what this means. I RIDE WITH oscar!!!!!