I don't really understand the Will hate, he's been playing well.
_FAN isn't some dumbass guy, show some respect.
_FAN isn't some dumbass guy, show some respect.i don't think he's talking about _Fan.
eff YOU DUMBASS GUY! YOU'RE A rough ridin' DUMBASSQuote from: some dumbass guyI don't really understand the Will hate, he's been playing well.
Bad game, Will.
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I WANT TO MOCK HIS VOICE BUT DON'T KNOW HOW BECAUSE I HAVE TO TYPE IT. DAMMIT.
How about that quote in the pregame article where he says that he's never played for 1st before because in his previous two years they've always had to play for 3rd or 4th.
thought of a joke
Hey Will your voice just called, he says high.
No argument from me, Will has to hit shots.
I'll throw Tay in as well; combining for 2 points. 1-9 shooting, 2 assists, 2 TOs, 2 steals.
No argument from me, Will has to hit shots.
I'll throw Tay in as well; combining for 2 points. 1-9 shooting, 2 assists, 2 TOs, 2 steals.
Good thing is that oscar is bringing in two players next year that should be better than Tay or Will.
Wasn't Will quoted as saying he has never felt more confident than he did going into this game? That sure rough ridin' panned out well.
Wasn't Will quoted as saying he has never felt more confident than he did going into this game? That sure rough ridin' panned out well.
thought of a joke
Hey Will your voice just called, he says high.
No argument from me, Will has to hit shots.
I'll throw Tay in as well; combining for 2 points. 1-9 shooting, 2 assists, 2 TOs, 2 steals.
Good thing is that oscar is bringing in two players next year that should be better than Tay or Will.
No argument from me, Will has to hit shots.
I'll throw Tay in as well; combining for 2 points. 1-9 shooting, 2 assists, 2 TOs, 2 steals.
Good thing is that oscar is bringing in two players next year that should be better than Tay or Will.
He could have brought one in this year (gray) instead of being a complete dumb eff and giving orris a scholarship.
If Angel had the game Will had, retards would be calling for his head. Why do these morons always give Will a pass?
I was pleased oscar sat him a lot down the stretch. Tay was better, even if he's not making shots either.Tay sat FAR too long in the 2nd. Even if he was gassed, it would still be 100% better than Will.
I was pleased oscar sat him a lot down the stretch. Tay was better, even if he's not making shots either.Tay sat FAR too long in the 2nd. Even if he was gassed, it would still be 100% better than Will.
I was pleased oscar sat him a lot down the stretch. Tay was better, even if he's not making shots either.Tay sat FAR too long in the 2nd. Even if he was gassed, it would still be 100% better than Will.
Scored more than Will...I was pleased oscar sat him a lot down the stretch. Tay was better, even if he's not making shots either.Tay sat FAR too long in the 2nd. Even if he was gassed, it would still be 100% better than Will.
Tay was probably worse than Will. At least Will was getting open. Tay was just wandering around not scoring
Tay doesn't run of screens or look to score, I don't think he all that better then Will. Omari is the only answer. We need another scoring option.I was pleased oscar sat him a lot down the stretch. Tay was better, even if he's not making shots either.Tay sat FAR too long in the 2nd. Even if he was gassed, it would still be 100% better than Will.
Both played 11 minutes in the 2nd half, which was far better than Will playing 15 and Tay 7 in the first.
Tay doesn't run of screens or look to score, I don't think he all that better then Will. Omari is the only answer. We need another scoring option.I was pleased oscar sat him a lot down the stretch. Tay was better, even if he's not making shots either.Tay sat FAR too long in the 2nd. Even if he was gassed, it would still be 100% better than Will.
Both played 11 minutes in the 2nd half, which was far better than Will playing 15 and Tay 7 in the first.
Tay doesn't run of screens or look to score, I don't think he all that better then Will. Omari is the only answer. We need another scoring option.I was pleased oscar sat him a lot down the stretch. Tay was better, even if he's not making shots either.Tay sat FAR too long in the 2nd. Even if he was gassed, it would still be 100% better than Will.
Both played 11 minutes in the 2nd half, which was far better than Will playing 15 and Tay 7 in the first.
Foster and Thomas are going to have to start next year. Next year going to be tough but we should be really good in two. Foster is going to be a beast.Tay doesn't run of screens or look to score, I don't think he all that better then Will. Omari is the only answer. We need another scoring option.I was pleased oscar sat him a lot down the stretch. Tay was better, even if he's not making shots either.Tay sat FAR too long in the 2nd. Even if he was gassed, it would still be 100% better than Will.
Both played 11 minutes in the 2nd half, which was far better than Will playing 15 and Tay 7 in the first.
Tay is an infinitely better option than Will at this point.
Is anyone else just stunned at home much dick Will sucked tonight?Will is what we thought he was.
I mean missing shots is one thing, refusing wide open 3s off set pieces for him to get 3s.....I'm just stunned at how bad he was, even for him.
It depends on the game. I am not a Will hater at all, but tonight i wanted him on the bench in the 2nd half.
If he is missing shots, he has to sit. Coming in to tonight, he had hit 11 of his last 34 from 3pt. Thats still only 32% (i like to see him be a 36-38%). But he also has a 12/2 asst/TO ratio in league play which i will take in a heartbeat
Winters, go check out the last half of the MLK thread.
I was pleased oscar sat him a lot down the stretch. Tay was better, even if he's not making shots either.Tay sat FAR too long in the 2nd. Even if he was gassed, it would still be 100% better than Will.
Tay was probably worse than Will. At least Will was getting open. Tay was just wandering around not scoring
Yeah, if Will isn't hitting shots, I'd rather have Tay in the game. He's a better defender and has much better assist/TO numbers.
Yeah, if Will isn't hitting shots, I'd rather have Tay in the game. He's a better defender and has much better assist/TO numbers.
Before Weber pulled him Will had multiple poor defensive breakdowns leaving us in a scramble position sometimes we recovered sometimes we didn't. It was an all around awful performance. He's playing poorly and won't shut up, its a bad combo to say the least.
Yeah, if Will isn't hitting shots, I'd rather have Tay in the game. He's a better defender and has much better assist/TO numbers.
Before Weber pulled him Will had multiple poor defensive breakdowns leaving us in a scramble position sometimes we recovered sometimes we didn't. It was an all around awful performance. He's playing poorly and won't shut up, its a bad combo to say the least.
Naadir and EJ abused Will. In contrast, EJ was completely shook by Angel.
Oh yeah can we talk about how early in the game he had a fairly open reverse layup and didn't even think about attempting it? Pretty good insight into the mindset.
Will has to be the most hated ksu player of all time right? i mean, who would be 2nd?I was always frustrated by Mark Young and the 4 star jc pg Wooly had that couldn't shoot.
the 4 star jc pg Wooly had that couldn't shoot.
On the flip side, who did tucks hate more? Denis or Bill - I would say Denis
Will has to be the most hated ksu player of all time right? i mean, who would be 2nd?
"Will's a good shooter"
dude....."Will's a good shooter"
That worthless man of taste and distinction couldn't outshoot a fuckin 4 year old at Dave and Buster's
Will has to be the most hated ksu player of all time right? i mean, who would be 2nd?
A whole lot of dumbasses hated Luis Colon. I'm not even sure if Spradling is #1 over him.
:lol:Will has to be the most hated ksu player of all time right? i mean, who would be 2nd?
A whole lot of dumbasses hated Luis Colon. I'm not even sure if Spradling is #1 over him.
Well we know that it's for sure one of those two guys and definitely not someone else.
Winters, go check out the last half of the MLK thread.
Where is this thread.
Will has to be the most hated ksu player of all time right? i mean, who would be 2nd?
"Will's a good shooter"
Nope all of Bennett's suck was completely worth it to see Billy W. :lol: at him as he was melting down on the bench at KU.Will has to be the most hated ksu player of all time right? i mean, who would be 2nd?
Bennett?
Bennett was weird, which was great. i don't think he would receive many votes for most hated. remember when he was dressed up in that weird costume, in the graveyard? odd guy, not hated...i don't think.
Spradling is never going to punch anybody. That makes Lou way more badass. When he was sucking or fumbling or missing layups or crying you always knew there was a chance someone was getting punched. Tons of fun!
Will has now played 85 games at K-State, and played 68% of the available minutes.
In his first 48 games as a Wildcat, Will hit 67 of 169 threes, for 39.6%.
In his last 37 games as a Wildcat, Will hit 46 of 161 threes, for 28.6%.
That's a pretty bad regression, worse than I thought actually.
I loved Lu. Loved how mean and physical he was. He intimidated the hell out of ppl. Was a perfect Frank Martin secondary post player.
His regression shooting the ball is really strange.
I know he played off Jake his first year, but 48 games while shooting nearly 40% from 3 (at 3.5 attempts per game) isn't some insignificant statistic. But neither is shooting worse than 30% (at 4.4 attempts per game) over 37 games since then.
Back off the kid. He had a bad shooting night, but pretty sure no one else could hit much of their 3 pointers.
Back off the kid. He had a bad shooting night, but pretty sure no one else could hit much of their 3 pointers.
Every game I have been to this year I have sat next to several tucks, all of whom didn't clap once for anyone during introductions except for Will. Our fanbase loves will. Loves him like they love church, talking about the decline of morality, and their guns. The kind of love that can only come from a closed mind and a western style shirt. The kind of love that equals the love of fried baloney with mustard washed down with a can of Old Style. The pedestal that Will has been placed on is taller than all his haters standing on each others' shoulders. I am surprised he can breathe up there.
With his sorry ass in the game we were -24 points. When he was out we were +19.
I started keeping a tally towards the end of the first half and had to reconstruct the beginning from memory so these numbers could be off a little. I know for a fact that it was -10 in, +9 out in the 2nd half.
Is there not a member of the media that can do this simple analysis and point it out? The only thing more worthless than Sprat is the media.
Back off the kid. He had a bad shooting night, but pretty sure no one else could hit much of their 3 pointers.
The problem with Will is the alternative is Tay. For the 1 and 2 spots we really only have Angel and those 2 to work with. And while many of Tay's numbers are better than Will's, he doesn't exactly provide a dynamic replacement, especially for a SR.
No doubt, the 2 spot is by far the weakest position on the team. JO and Gip have their own limitations at the 5, but they provide much more right now (and consistently) than the 2.
I'm not arguing that he shouldn't be on the floor, I'd just like someone to justify the argument of him playing 35 rough ridin' minutes a game
With his sorry ass in the game we were -24 points. When he was out we were +19.Best first post ever?
I started keeping a tally towards the end of the first half and had to reconstruct the beginning from memory so these numbers could be off a little. I know for a fact that it was -10 in, +9 out in the 2nd half.
Is there not a member of the media that can do this simple analysis and point it out? The only thing more worthless than Sprat is the media.
With his sorry ass in the game we were -24 points. When he was out we were +19.
I started keeping a tally towards the end of the first half and had to reconstruct the beginning from memory so these numbers could be off a little. I know for a fact that it was -10 in, +9 out in the 2nd half.
Is there not a member of the media that can do this simple analysis and point it out? The only thing more worthless than Sprat is the media.
with Spradling you just look and shake your head, the kid has been given opportunity after opportunity to step up when it really matters and he delivers about every 5 or 6 games.
Will has now played 85 games at K-State, and played 68% of the available minutes.
In his first 48 games as a Wildcat, Will hit 67 of 169 threes, for 39.6%.
In his last 37 games as a Wildcat, Will hit 46 of 161 threes, for 28.6%.
Will has now played 85 games at K-State, and played 68% of the available minutes.
In his first 48 games as a Wildcat, Will hit 67 of 169 threes, for 39.6%.
In his last 37 games as a Wildcat, Will hit 46 of 161 threes, for 28.6%.
after his freshman season i was convinced he would be a high volume 45% shooter by his jr. year. i can't think of any other occasion where i've been so wrong, or any other player that has so disappointed me (in terms of living up to his potential).
The kind of love that equals the love of fried baloney with mustard washed down with a can of Old Style.:drool:I was wondering what to fix for supper. Probably ought to have some mac and cheese with that.
Bennett was weird, which was great. i don't think he would receive many votes for most hated. remember when he was dressed up in that weird costume, in the graveyard? odd guy, not hated...i don't think.
So many good Bennett times. The time he fouled out at Nub in 11 minutes with zero points was probably my fav.
Not gonna lie. If I played D1 sports at a major university this would be my only pick up line too.Bennett was weird, which was great. i don't think he would receive many votes for most hated. remember when he was dressed up in that weird costume, in the graveyard? odd guy, not hated...i don't think.
So many good Bennett times. The time he fouled out at Nub in 11 minutes with zero points was probably my fav.
I had a friend tell me about a party she was at, where one Bennett, full of lank, walked up to some girls sitting on a couch and said something to the extent of "I play on the basketball team, wanna eff?" they politely declined and he got up and left. True story.
Bennett was weird, which was great. i don't think he would receive many votes for most hated. remember when he was dressed up in that weird costume, in the graveyard? odd guy, not hated...i don't think.
So many good Bennett times. The time he fouled out at Nub in 11 minutes with zero points was probably my fav.
I had a friend tell me about a party she was at, where one Bennett, full of lank, walked up to some girls sitting on a couch and said something to the extent of "I play on the basketball team, wanna eff?" they politely declined and he got up and left. True story.
Bennett was weird, which was great. i don't think he would receive many votes for most hated. remember when he was dressed up in that weird costume, in the graveyard? odd guy, not hated...i don't think.
So many good Bennett times. The time he fouled out at Nub in 11 minutes with zero points was probably my fav.
I had a friend tell me about a party she was at, where one Bennett, full of lank, walked up to some girls sitting on a couch and said something to the extent of "I play on the basketball team, wanna eff?" they politely declined and he got up and left. True story.
My friend worked the door at the Pig sometimes. One night Bennett tried to walk in as if no one was working the door. My buddy stopped him and Bennett just smirked and said "it's OK, I'm a ball player". My buddy responded, "yeah your the 7 foot fall freshman that every one knows is a freshman. Last thing I'm going to do is is get fired for letting in lurch the terrible basketball player because the RCPD will recognize you faster than you fouled out in Lincoln." Bennett just turned around and left. The next night he tried to do the exact same thing again.
To piggyback off of FAN's stats earlier.....
Last 2 yrs, Will in the non-con = 39.6% (44-111)
But in his 23 conf games = 27.3% (27-99)
And then to track those games via home and away=
Home 32.1% (35-109)
away/nuetral 35.6% (36-101)
So his real issue is his shooting in conf play. You would think it would be because the competition is better, and i would agree but at the same time, you can look at this=
Last 2 yrs vs these 8 non con teams (at VTech, vs WV in Wichita, Bama in Kc, LBSU, at GW, Mich, at Gonz, Fla).
He is 18-44(40.9%) against some pretty decent competition
He's not in shape.
12. Kansas State
I don't want to alarm anybody, but in just over a week oscar Weber could be coaching a top-15 team in February. As I'm sure you know, this is up there with Googling "Google" and those pages in standardized-test booklets that say "this page is intentionally left blank" on the list of things most likely to make the universe implode. I can only imagine how Illinois fans must feel. Although, on second thought, it shouldn't be that shocking that Weber is off to a good start at K-State. After all, in his first two years at Illinois he won back-to-back Big Ten titles and made two deep runs in the NCAA tournament, including the 2005 national title game loss to North Carolina. Only after that did Weber's pattern emerge: Start the season with loads of promise, then ease off the gas in January and coast to an NIT appearance or an early loss in the NCAA tournament. I guess the universe will implode only if three years from now Weber is winning with his own recruits in February. We might be safe after all.
By the way, can you think of a starter on a top-15 team who, on the surface, looks like he belongs on a basketball court less than Will Spradling? Yeah, you're right — Jordan Hulls will always top him. It's not even fair, really. Maybe the best way to go about this is to name the award after Hulls, make him ineligible for it, and give the first Jordan Hulls Award to Will Spradling. I'll think about this. Stay tuned.
so is he just being :opcat: about will's physical appearance or is he saying he sucks ass at basketballs.
I think it's the former.
so is he just being :opcat: about will's physical appearance or is he saying he sucks ass at basketballs.
I think it's the former.
I don't think he is being :opcat:, I think like recognizes like.
Here is Titus, a former OSU walk-on:
(https://www.nmnathletics.com/pics24/400/XT/XTEBRASBMFKVVBG.20081120185706.jpg)
And here is his stat-line:
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Is there anything wrong with starting Tay alongside Angel? I know he doesn't bring much to the offensive end but he is a better defender than Sprads which would take some of the pressure on that end away from Angel. I always wonder if Angel is forced to do to much on the defensive end to compensate for Will sucking so bad, and no not in the tuck way where they say he gets dumb fouls.
Can't Shane play the 2 when we're giving Nino some minutes at the 4?
so is he just being :opcat: about will's physical appearance or is he saying he sucks ass at basketballs.
I think it's the former.
I remember being pretty excited about Will as a Freshman because I thought we finally had an ugly white kid who could rain down 3's and make fans of other teams hate him. Turns out we got an ugly white kid who can't make an open shot to save his life and makes fans of his own team want to slash his tires. That's just life, I guess.
I remember being pretty excited about Will as a Freshman because I thought we finally had an ugly white kid who could rain down 3's and make fans of other teams hate him. Turns out we got an ugly white kid who can't make an open shot to save his life and makes fans of his own team want to slash his tires. That's just life, I guess.
Nothing would be horribly wrong with this if he didn't tease with what appeared to be talent for a while. He teased just long enough to be declared the next Steve Hensen and now there is no getting rid of him.
I remember being pretty excited about Will as a Freshman because I thought we finally had an ugly white kid who could rain down 3's and make fans of other teams hate him. Turns out we got an ugly white kid who can't make an open shot to save his life and makes fans of his own team want to slash his tires. That's just life, I guess.
Nothing would be horribly wrong with this if he didn't tease with what appeared to be talent for a while. He teased just long enough to be declared the next Steve Hensen and now there is no getting rid of him.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8873373/mark-titus-top-12-ncaa-power-rankings-how-butler-turned-irritating-style-play-wins-indiana-gonzaga (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8873373/mark-titus-top-12-ncaa-power-rankings-how-butler-turned-irritating-style-play-wins-indiana-gonzaga)
"By the way, can you think of a starter on a top-15 team who, on the surface, looks like he belongs on a basketball court less than Will Spradling? Yeah, you're right — Jordan Hulls will always top him. It's not even fair, really. Maybe the best way to go about this is to name the award after Hulls, make him ineligible for it, and give the first Jordan Hulls Award to Will Spradling. I'll think about this. Stay tuned."
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8873373/mark-titus-top-12-ncaa-power-rankings-how-butler-turned-irritating-style-play-wins-indiana-gonzaga (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8873373/mark-titus-top-12-ncaa-power-rankings-how-butler-turned-irritating-style-play-wins-indiana-gonzaga)
"By the way, can you think of a starter on a top-15 team who, on the surface, looks like he belongs on a basketball court less than Will Spradling? Yeah, you're right — Jordan Hulls will always top him. It's not even fair, really. Maybe the best way to go about this is to name the award after Hulls, make him ineligible for it, and give the first Jordan Hulls Award to Will Spradling. I'll think about this. Stay tuned."
I remember being pretty excited about Will as a Freshman because I thought we finally had an ugly white kid who could rain down 3's and make fans of other teams hate him. Turns out we got an ugly white kid who can't make an open shot to save his life and makes fans of his own team want to slash his tires. That's just life, I guess.
Nothing would be horribly wrong with this if he didn't tease with what appeared to be talent for a while. He teased just long enough to be declared the next Steve Hensen and now there is no getting rid of him.
I remember being pretty excited about Will as a Freshman because I thought we finally had an ugly white kid who could rain down 3's and make fans of other teams hate him. Turns out we got an ugly white kid who can't make an open shot to save his life and makes fans of his own team want to slash his tires. That's just life, I guess.
Nothing would be horribly wrong with this if he didn't tease with what appeared to be talent for a while. He teased just long enough to be declared the next Steve Hensen and now there is no getting rid of him.
It seems like there might be a comparison to be made here.
so is he just being :opcat: about will's physical appearance or is he saying he sucks ass at basketballs.
I think it's the former.
I don't think he is being :opcat:, I think like recognizes like.
Here is Titus, a former OSU walk-on:
(https://www.nmnathletics.com/pics24/400/XT/XTEBRASBMFKVVBG.20081120185706.jpg)
And here is his stat-line:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.postimage.org%2Fk6hnolxzv%2Ftitus.png&hash=09114b15860da520f948aa23e14ad6c7a6ae4a0e)
This total stud was a career 33% 3pt shooter and literally had zero turnovers in four years at a top D1 program, I think he knows his crap.
I remember being pretty excited about Will as a Freshman because I thought we finally had an ugly white kid who could rain down 3's and make fans of other teams hate him. Turns out we got an ugly white kid who can't make an open shot to save his life and makes fans of his own team want to slash his tires. That's just life, I guess.
I'm not saying I condone killing him but if someone were to start a kickstarter campaign to pay for a some muscle, I think they could raise quite a bit of money to maybe take a hammer to his hands and a bat to his knees.
I'm not saying I condone killing him but if someone were to start a kickstarter campaign to pay for a some muscle, I think they could raise quite a bit of money to maybe take a hammer to his hands and a bat to his knees.
but if someone were to start a kickstarter campaign to pay for a some muscle
Will is shooting 50% (10-20) from 3 since the TCU game.
This is great news for all K-State basketball fans! Let's all be happy about this together!
:D
Why was Stan's first question to oscar about how well Will "filled the McGruder role?"no idea!
Why was Stan's first question to oscar about how well Will "filled the McGruder role?"no idea!
:horrorsurprise:
https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/609412313024626688
Gotta start somewhere. :)
Gotta start somewhere. :)
How much will this place melt down when K-State announces him as the new Basketball Head Coach in like 2035?
Gotta start somewhere. :)
How much will this place melt down when K-State announces him as the new Basketball Head Coach in like 2035?
None. We probably won't even have a hoops board by 2019.
Gotta start somewhere. :)
How much will this place melt down when K-State announces him as the new Basketball Head Coach in like 2035?
None. We probably won't even have a hoops board by 2019.
Trim, you seem to be really down these days, do you need someone to talk to?
Gotta start somewhere. :)
How much will this place melt down when K-State announces him as the new Basketball Head Coach in like 2035?
None. We probably won't even have a hoops board by 2019.
Trim, you seem to be really down these days, do you need someone to talk to?
Hardly. Do you even know how many more google ads we could load up on this blog if we freed up the bandwidth that the decaying hoops board takes up?
:kstategrad: