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Title: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on January 07, 2013, 12:41:46 PM
Hi guys, buying my first house soon. been a perpetual renter for my entire adult life (like to move around a lot)

I know next to nothing about financial stuff, so any expertise is appreciated. looking to buy a fixer upper as I am a contractor on my off days.

can't wait to see what you geniuses have in store for me  :bill:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: puniraptor on January 07, 2013, 12:42:55 PM
Hi guys, buying my first house soon. been a perpetual renter for my entire adult life (like to move around a lot)

I know next to nothing about financial stuff, so any expertise is appreciated. looking to buy a fixer upper as I am a contractor on my off days.

can't wait to see what you geniuses have in store for me  :bill:

buy a trailer. then you can still move around as much as you want.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on January 07, 2013, 12:44:45 PM
Keep renting
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: OK_Cat on January 07, 2013, 12:48:47 PM
don't buy a house until you get over the commitment issues that you clearly have.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on January 07, 2013, 12:50:18 PM
don't buy a house until you get over the commitment issues that you clearly have.

am over the commitment issues. hence why I am buying. I mean come on, do I have to spell everything out for you?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2013, 12:51:26 PM
buy, like, a duplex and rent the other side of it and be your own maintenance man or whatever.  this is not a pro-tip by any means as I am not "handy" and have no experience doing this. just sounds like an awesome thing to do if I was.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wes mantooth on January 07, 2013, 12:52:05 PM
where at?  how much you want to spend?

great time to buy, redic low interest rates.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: OK_Cat on January 07, 2013, 12:52:36 PM
you clearly didn't address the commitment issues in the original post, just hinted at them.

i feel like in order for your friends at goEMAW.com to give you the best advice, we need more info about you.

age?
relationship status?
pets?


i also feel like if you have to ask you friends at goEMAW.com if you should buy a house, then you should probably not buy a house.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on January 07, 2013, 01:00:10 PM
you clearly didn't address the commitment issues in the original post, just hinted at them.

i feel like in order for your friends at goEMAW.com to give you the best advice, we need more info about you.

age?
relationship status?
pets?

i also feel like if you have to ask you friends at goEMAW.com if you should buy a house, then you should probably not buy a house.

I'm not asking IF i should buy a house, just asking for some advice here. like you know, how the whole home buying things work, what to look for in a realtor, etc...

age: late 20's
relationship: in a relationship (soon engaged  :crossfingers:)
pets: one dog
area: must be in KCMO, unfortunate
price range: ~150-175

want to buy now because my lease on my sweet downtown loft is up and I hear "interest rates are low" although I don't fully understand what that means.

also does that 20% down rule still apply, if so I will be renting again.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ben ji on January 07, 2013, 01:04:59 PM
You dont need 20% down but its a good idea. My buddy just bought a house and only put down 5%, he was still able to get a superlow rate.

Since you have to live in KCMO I would look around brookside, should be able to find something in that pricerange.

Or you could go look at KCMO north of the river so you can send your kids to public school.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: RickRampus on January 07, 2013, 01:06:54 PM
depends on which loan you get, you can get some for as low as 5% down.  Interest rates are low right now for conventional you are looking at 3.375 for a 30-year note and 2.750% on a 15-year.  Just my .02 as I am looking as well

edit:  I did quick figuring and a 30-year loan for $166,250 at 3.375% ($175,000 minus the 5%) puts you at $773.67/month.  This doesn't include closing costs, taxes or insurance.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on January 07, 2013, 01:07:53 PM
You dont need 20% down but its a good idea. My buddy just bought a house and only put down 5%, he was still able to get a superlow rate.

Since you have to live in KCMO I would look around brookside, should be able to find something in that pricerange.

Or you could go look at KCMO north of the river so you can send your kids to public school.

definitely want to live in the brookside waldo area, I work in that part of town and a short drive would be sweet. DO NOT want to live north of the river.

tell me more about this 5% down friend of yours. how does that work?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ben ji on January 07, 2013, 01:12:10 PM
Not sure what type of loan but I think it was the first time homebuy one. Just talk your bank and some mortgage companies to see what you can get.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2013, 01:13:49 PM
you could qualify for an FHA loan as well which would require less down I think
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Institutional Control on January 07, 2013, 01:14:26 PM
You can get FHA loans with no money down.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2013, 01:15:03 PM
http://www.fha.com/lending_limits_state.cfm?state=MISSOURI
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on January 07, 2013, 01:15:12 PM
KCFDcat, have you approached HGTV for possible inclusion on a future episode of House Hunters or Property Virgins (w/ Sandra Rinomato)?

based upon your posts here i think you'd make a great subject for the show
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Institutional Control on January 07, 2013, 01:18:30 PM
I think he should buy something in Meade and commute.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on January 07, 2013, 01:19:15 PM
KCFDcat, have you approached HGTV for possible inclusion on a future episode of House Hunters or Property Virgins (w/ Sandra Rinomato)?

based upon your posts here i think you'd make a great subject for the show

this is a great option. do they pay you for that kind of stuff? I'll look into it. would wear an emaw shirt for every shot of course.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Institutional Control on January 07, 2013, 01:19:55 PM
KCFDcat, have you approached HGTV for possible inclusion on a future episode of House Hunters or Property Virgins (w/ Sandra Rinomato)?

based upon your posts here i think you'd make a great subject for the show

this is a great option. do they pay you for that kind of stuff? I'll look into it. would wear an emaw shirt for every shot of course.

I recommend the #life tee.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on January 07, 2013, 01:22:06 PM
KCFDcat, have you approached HGTV for possible inclusion on a future episode of House Hunters or Property Virgins (w/ Sandra Rinomato)?

based upon your posts here i think you'd make a great subject for the show

this is a great option. do they pay you for that kind of stuff? I'll look into it. would wear an emaw shirt for every shot of course.

I recommend the #life tee.

would need to get one. anyone interesting in donating one to the cause? (I wear a medium, preferably a fitted tee)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: slimz on January 07, 2013, 01:26:41 PM
Flip it.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 07, 2013, 01:28:55 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fponderingsfrompluto.files.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F01%2Fdave-ramsey.jpg&hash=e4adac9673667b03135301b0774aa8af4b780afa) Jeffy says"Relax don't do it, pay straight cash homie!"
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on January 07, 2013, 01:29:13 PM
KCFDcat, have you approached HGTV for possible inclusion on a future episode of House Hunters or Property Virgins (w/ Sandra Rinomato)?

based upon your posts here i think you'd make a great subject for the show

this is a great option. do they pay you for that kind of stuff? I'll look into it. would wear an emaw shirt for every shot of course.

did you talk to anyone when you called HGTV? 

http://www.hgtv.com/about-us/are-you-getting-ready-to-buy-a-home/index.html

Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: OK_Cat on January 07, 2013, 01:30:56 PM
i got an FHA loan and didn't pay anything down.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on January 07, 2013, 01:33:19 PM
KCFDcat, have you approached HGTV for possible inclusion on a future episode of House Hunters or Property Virgins (w/ Sandra Rinomato)?

based upon your posts here i think you'd make a great subject for the show

this is a great option. do they pay you for that kind of stuff? I'll look into it. would wear an emaw shirt for every shot of course.

did you talk to anyone when you called HGTV? 

http://www.hgtv.com/about-us/are-you-getting-ready-to-buy-a-home/index.html

sending them an email as we speak. have to attach a picture. looking for something super elite and sexy. good thing I am both of those things.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Institutional Control on January 07, 2013, 01:33:32 PM
i got an FHA loan and didn't pay anything down.

That's how studs roll, OK Cat. Studs.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on January 07, 2013, 01:34:15 PM
i got an FHA loan and didn't pay anything down.

more info please. everything I see says 3.5% which is good but if I could get away with zero i'd probably buy tomorrow.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: OK_Cat on January 07, 2013, 01:35:16 PM
plus it was that year when they gave first time homebuyers 10% of the value of the house back to you at tax time.

 :D
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: OK_Cat on January 07, 2013, 01:36:44 PM
i got an FHA loan and didn't pay anything down.

more info please. everything I see says 3.5% which is good but if I could get away with zero i'd probably buy tomorrow.

i don't really know details...my bank just said i could get it.  i think she said that there is so much money that they can give away each 6 months, and its a first come first serve thing.  but i don't know the qualifying deets.  my wife was a student at the time, so we were rolling on one income so that may or may not have had something to do with it.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on January 07, 2013, 01:36:54 PM
plus it was that year when they gave first time homebuyers 10% of the value of the house back to you at tax time.

 :D

really bummed I missed out on this. really bummed.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Institutional Control on January 07, 2013, 01:43:05 PM
plus it was that year when they gave first time homebuyers 10% of the value of the house back to you at tax time.

 :D

really bummed I missed out on this. really bummed.

Don't be bummed. There are still all kinds of good programs for first time buyers.

The first thing you should do is pick a lender, they'll let you know everything you're eligible for, and get pre-approved.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: michigancat on January 07, 2013, 01:46:01 PM
Plan on spending twice as much time and money as you expect on your fixer upper.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ben ji on January 07, 2013, 01:47:26 PM
You should be able to get a nice house in decent shape in brookside for 150-170, probably wouldnt have to do anything major in regards to fixer upping.

Make sure you stay west of troost  :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: OK_Cat on January 07, 2013, 01:48:26 PM
unless you plan on living there forever, be careful and set a limit on how much fixing you're going to do to it.....at some point, your house is only going to get so high in value before it hits a ceiling due to neighborhood and other factors.  don't put twice as much money into it than it's worth.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ew2x4 on January 07, 2013, 01:50:57 PM
i got an FHA loan and didn't pay anything down.

more info please. everything I see says 3.5% which is good but if I could get away with zero i'd probably buy tomorrow.

When you buy a house, you can negotiate that the seller covers that. I did that when I bought my house 4 years ago. All I had to pay for was escrow, inspection, title company and maybe something else. That's still a couple thousand bucks.

When I refinanced last year, I had put enough into my house, my new value was high enough for me to not need an FHA loan which gets rid of mortgage insurance.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: sys on January 07, 2013, 01:51:31 PM
if you're a contractor, you can clean up.  most people have no idea what they're buying - you will.  and you can renovate cheap.


a 5% down conventional loan will mean you'll be paying for private mortgage insurance.  which is expensive.  if you can put the 20% down, do it.  if you need to go with less, just pay off the principle as fast as you can till you hit 20% (you don't need pmi after 20%).  on the fha low down payment loans, i think they go as low as 3% down, but you're still paying for mortgage insurance (not private, might be a little cheaper, but you're still paying).

shop around a lot for your loan.  the terms and costs vary a lot.  i got mine through costco's screening thing, and the discount was substantially more than the membership fee.  the bank i used was in the kc area.  they were ok to deal with and (obviously) the lowest price i found for the loan i wanted.  kinda mumped me over on rate lock fees when my closing was delayed.   i expect other banks would have done the same though.  anyways, capwest mortgage.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 07, 2013, 01:52:31 PM
just buy a house that doesn't need fixing up and spend your extra free time bingeing and watching the cats.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2013, 01:53:51 PM
just buy a house that doesn't need fixing up and spend your extra free time bingeing and watching the cats.

rick, please don't post my insider pro-tips on the public board going forward ok. tia.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ben ji on January 07, 2013, 01:56:28 PM
if you're a contractor, you can clean up.  most people have no idea what they're buying - you will.  and you can renovate cheap.


a 5% down conventional loan will mean you'll be paying for private mortgage insurance.  which is expensive.  if you can put the 20% down, do it.  if you need to go with less, just pay off the principle as fast as you can till you hit 20% (you don't need pmi after 20%).  on the fha low down payment loans, i think they go as low as 3% down, but you're still paying for mortgage insurance (not private, might be a little cheaper, but you're still paying).

shop around a lot for your loan.  the terms and costs vary a lot.  i got mine through costco's screening thing, and the discount was substantially more than the membership fee.  the bank i used was in the kc area.  they were ok to deal with and (obviously) the lowest price i found for the loan i wanted.  kinda mumped me over on rate lock fees when my closing was delayed.   i expect other banks would have done the same though.  anyways, capwest mortgage.

Thats a good point on the PMI, my buddy that only put 5% down is paying an additional $200 a month to reach the 20% level faster so he doesnt have to pay for the PMI.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2013, 01:58:41 PM
if he qualifies for an FHA he won't have to pay PMI
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on January 07, 2013, 02:06:14 PM
make sure and contact the FBI about the DEA and the CIA from the whitehouse.gov and ask them about the PMI from the FHA because otherwise the VMI and the AFA will contact TMZ and you and your future bride are gonna be royally mumped. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: sys on January 07, 2013, 02:08:59 PM
if he qualifies for an FHA he won't have to pay PMI


no nazi comment, since we're friends again, but you're still wrong.  not pmi, but still pays mi - doubt if he cares to whom he pays.  :nono:


http://www.fha.com/fha_requirements_mortgage_insurance.cfm
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on January 07, 2013, 02:14:19 PM
if he qualifies for an FHA he won't have to pay PMI

is this true? how much is pmi typically? from everything I read I do qualify for FHA. good credit, pretty much no debt, small car payment (on an elite 2012 grand cherokee I might add)

the credit union I got my auto loan from will do a 5% down for me at 3.75% still going to try to go FHA though...

also what's the deal with "closing costs" i hear on HH a lot that the seller will pay that. is that true? did not realize they run about 3k. sheesh.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2013, 02:18:25 PM
if he qualifies for an FHA he won't have to pay PMI


no nazi comment, since we're friends again, but you're still wrong.  not pmi, but still pays mi - doubt if he cares to whom he pays.  :nono:


http://www.fha.com/fha_requirements_mortgage_insurance.cfm

huh, did not know that
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Willesgirl on January 07, 2013, 02:21:57 PM
KCFDCat, find a realtor. Find one you trust who has experience in the area in which you want to purchase. I would not use any of the advice garnered here -- except mine.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2013, 02:23:33 PM
KCFDCat, find a realtor. Find one you trust who has experience in the area in which you want to purchase. I would not use any of the advice garnered here -- except mine.

Yeah, if you love handing money to someone to do stuff you can easily do yourself then definitely get a buyers agent.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Willesgirl on January 07, 2013, 02:25:16 PM
The sellers typically DO pay the costs of the buyer's and seller's agents. (Most other costs are left up to the buyer unless negotiated in purchase contract.)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on January 07, 2013, 02:26:05 PM
KCFDCat, find a realtor. Find one you trust who has experience in the area in which you want to purchase. I would not use any of the advice garnered here -- except mine.

Yeah, if you love handing money to someone to do stuff you can easily do yourself then definitely get a buyers agent.

this worries me. don't want to unnecessarily pay people money, but also don't want to miss out on saving money down the road or taking advantage of some program i've never heard of. lots of decisions to make here.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2013, 02:26:20 PM
The sellers typically DO pay the costs of the buyer's and seller's agents. (Most other costs are left up to the buyer unless negotiated in purchase contract.)

I don't think you have a really solid grasp on how exchanges of money for goods work
Title: buying a house
Post by: felix rex on January 07, 2013, 02:26:32 PM
KCFDCat, find a realtor. Find one you trust who has experience in the area in which you want to purchase. I would not use any of the advice garnered here -- except mine.

Yeah, if you love handing money to someone to do stuff you can easily do yourself then definitely get a buyers agent.

It's a trade off. If my work time is worth more than the realtors work time, I'll just work extra hours at the job I like and let someone else do things that don't interest me.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on January 07, 2013, 02:27:31 PM
KCFDCat, find a realtor. Find one you trust who has experience in the area in which you want to purchase. I would not use any of the advice garnered here -- except mine.

Yeah, if you love handing money to someone to do stuff you can easily do yourself then definitely get a buyers agent.

this worries me. don't want to unnecessarily pay people money, but also don't want to miss out on saving money down the road or taking advantage of some program i've never heard of. lots of decisions to make here.

a buyer's agent isn't going to save you any money.  they're going to spend every cent that you let them
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2013, 02:27:50 PM
KCFDCat, find a realtor. Find one you trust who has experience in the area in which you want to purchase. I would not use any of the advice garnered here -- except mine.

Yeah, if you love handing money to someone to do stuff you can easily do yourself then definitely get a buyers agent.

this worries me. don't want to unnecessarily pay people money, but also don't want to miss out on saving money down the road or taking advantage of some program i've never heard of. lots of decisions to make here.

a buyers agent isn't going to do crap with the FHA programs or anything else. they will just take you to see a bunch of houses that you can see yourself online or just driving around neighborhoods you like.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: chum1 on January 07, 2013, 02:28:40 PM
Go look at tons of houses until you find one you love.  Buy it.  Money is no object.  No bargain hunting.  You're not at Sam's Club buying a bushel of ramen nodles that you've judged you can tolerate for the next few months.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on January 07, 2013, 02:29:37 PM
I think SD is off on this. I haven't purchased a home lately though.
Title: buying a house
Post by: felix rex on January 07, 2013, 02:30:14 PM
Go look at tons of houses until you find one you love.  Buy it.  Money is no object.  No bargain hunting.  You're not at Sam's Club buying a bushel of ramen nodles that you've judged you can tolerate for the next few months.

This is kind of true also. Treating your house as an investment is poor people talk.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Willesgirl on January 07, 2013, 02:32:29 PM
The sellers typically DO pay the costs of the buyer's and seller's agents. (Most other costs are left up to the buyer unless negotiated in purchase contract.)

I don't think you have a really solid grasp on how exchanges of money for goods work

I own two houses. It's a huge pain in the ass. Well worth it, especially as a buyer, to work with an agent.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 07, 2013, 02:33:27 PM
i bought my last house without an agent. was pud.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2013, 02:33:39 PM
i bought my last house without an agent. was pud.

super pud
Title: buying a house
Post by: felix rex on January 07, 2013, 02:34:03 PM
Oh boy.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Willesgirl on January 07, 2013, 02:34:27 PM
i bought my last house without an agent. was pud.

But that wasn't your first home purchase, correct? On a first-time buy, especially for the types of questions KCFD is asking, I'd get an agent.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Institutional Control on January 07, 2013, 02:35:11 PM
Get pre-approved first before wasting your time looking at stuff not in your budget. And when you find something you like you can act immediately.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on January 07, 2013, 02:37:13 PM
still wondering about the closing cost issues. can i make it so the seller pays these? also, anyone heard of this upfront mortgage insurance premium? what in the world? this is too confusing. I'm starting to realize why I have been renting all these years.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Willesgirl on January 07, 2013, 02:39:37 PM
still wondering about the closing cost issues. can i make it so the seller pays these? also, anyone heard of this upfront mortgage insurance premium? what in the world? this is too confusing. I'm starting to realize why I have been renting all these years.

GO TALK TO A REAL ESTATE AGENT. Talking to them will cost you nothing. NOTHING. And they will explain closing costs and mortgage insurance premiums. Or a mortgage broker. Really, just pick one.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: OK_Cat on January 07, 2013, 02:40:28 PM
the real estate agent works for the person selling the home, they're going to try and screw you.

go to the bank, find out what you are preapproved for, then look around and make some calls.

extremely pud
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Institutional Control on January 07, 2013, 02:40:36 PM
still wondering about the closing cost issues. can i make it so the seller pays these? also, anyone heard of this upfront mortgage insurance premium? what in the world? this is too confusing. I'm starting to realize why I have been renting all these years.

YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!

What's the matter with you? Is this what you've become, a KCMO finocchio who cries like a woman? "Oh, what do I do? What do I do?" What is that nonsense? Ridiculous!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2013, 02:42:42 PM
still wondering about the closing cost issues. can i make it so the seller pays these? also, anyone heard of this upfront mortgage insurance premium? what in the world? this is too confusing. I'm starting to realize why I have been renting all these years.

you can negotiate the fees and costs however you want. it just comes down to what kind of agreement you work out with the seller. you should not pay any "upfront mortgage insurance premium". that sounds very scammy. it's not hard at all to buy a house. go get financing, find a house, then come here with any questions. goEMAW can negotiate this mother rough rider for you if you want.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Willesgirl on January 07, 2013, 02:46:18 PM
still wondering about the closing cost issues. can i make it so the seller pays these? also, anyone heard of this upfront mortgage insurance premium? what in the world? this is too confusing. I'm starting to realize why I have been renting all these years.

you can negotiate the fees and costs however you want. it just comes down to what kind of agreement you work out with the seller. you should not pay any "upfront mortgage insurance premium". that sounds very scammy. it's not hard at all to buy a house. go get financing, find a house, then come here with any questions. goEMAW can negotiate this mother rough rider for you if you want.

This is a terrible plan.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2013, 02:46:47 PM
here's the thing with a buyers agent, they get a cut of whatever you buy this place for. the sellers agent also gets a cut. this all takes away from your negotiating power. the seller is going to part with their house at $180k a lot easier than they would at $180k with 20% going to a couple of JCCC grads.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: OK_Cat on January 07, 2013, 02:47:08 PM
fanning's sock doesn't realize that half of this board are lawyers
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Willesgirl on January 07, 2013, 02:51:01 PM
Oh. So there's a bunch of lawyers who post here? Great. I'll keep them in mind the next time I need a personal injury attorney.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Johnny Wichita on January 07, 2013, 02:53:05 PM
Oh. So there's a bunch of lawyers who post here? Great. I'll keep them in mind the next time I need a personal injury attorney.

Lol, that actually made me laugh.  Good work fanning. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: sys on January 07, 2013, 02:53:37 PM
still wondering about the closing cost issues. can i make it so the seller pays these? also, anyone heard of this upfront mortgage insurance premium? what in the world? this is too confusing. I'm starting to realize why I have been renting all these years.

what do you mean by closing costs?  there are a ton of different fees paid to a ton of different people when you buy a house.  in total, it's a lot more than 3k on a 150k house.

everything is negotiable, but there's no free lunch.  if you want the seller to pay your (all of your) closing costs, then you can have that happen.  but the sales price of the house will be higher than what it could have been.  the only real reasons you might want to do this are if you don't have cash to pay your closing costs, and would rather have them written into your loan.  or if you have some weird seller with a hangup about a price they have to get, but no weird hangup about giving up the equivalent elsewhere.   i think the latter is pretty rare.

i'd probably use a realtor if i were you.  they do work for the seller (and are paid by the seller, but their motivation is to make the deal happen, not to get you to pay 5k more).  unless you are good at negotiating (i don't think you are), a realtor will help you negotiate a better price - even if just by giving you a step of isolation from dealing with the seller.  you're still going to have to do most of the legwork yourself.  for a 150k house you aren't going to be their priority.

never heard of upfront mortgage insurance.  i think you didn't understand something.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mr Bread on January 07, 2013, 02:54:00 PM
fanning's sock doesn't realize that half of this board are lawyers

Fanning's sock's mom is a real estate agent rock star I think.  Goes to conferences and everything. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on January 07, 2013, 02:54:52 PM
Jesus guys, just trying to get some info before going to an agent and have to give up my information only to have them call me 5 times a week for the next 6 months.

Thanks for the input. guess I'll go get pre-approved and find an agent. there's no rough ridin' way I'm doing this by myself.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Willesgirl on January 07, 2013, 02:55:12 PM
fanning's sock doesn't realize that half of this board are lawyers

Fanning's sock's mom is a real estate agent rock star I think.  Goes to conferences and everything.

Wrong.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mr Bread on January 07, 2013, 02:58:08 PM
never heard of upfront mortgage insurance.  i think you didn't understand something.

Quote
Single Family Upfront Mortgage Insurance Premium (MIP)
Upfront mortgage insurance premium (MIP) is required for most of the FHA's Single Family mortgage insurance programs. Lenders must remit upfront MIP within 10 calendar days of the mortgage closing or disbursement date, whichever is later (Mortgagee Letter 2005-28). This page provides links to information on the collection and processing of upfront MIP payments for all case (loan) types except a Home Equity Conversion Mortgage (HECM) or Title I manufactured housing loan.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mr Bread on January 07, 2013, 02:59:48 PM
fanning's sock doesn't realize that half of this board are lawyers

Fanning's sock's mom is a real estate agent rock star I think.  Goes to conferences and everything.

Wrong.

Well of course.  Fanning's sock doesn't have a mother as it is a sock and ipso facto that mother does not have a career. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: sys on January 07, 2013, 03:03:20 PM
Upfront mortgage insurance premium (MIP) is required for most of the FHA's Single Family mortgage insurance programs.


well, there you go.  fha is kind of a dick, it sounds like.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on January 07, 2013, 03:05:21 PM
man. skip my house hunters recommendo, you're definitely cut out for property virgins.  call rinomato asap, son.  unless williesgirl is rinomato, then just pm her.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: sys on January 07, 2013, 03:06:25 PM
Well of course.  Fanning's sock doesn't have a mother as it is a sock and ipso facto that mother does not have a career.

i think you're mistaken, mr. bread.  fanning's sock is a female.  a girl.  female.  get that through your head.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: michigancat on January 07, 2013, 03:11:17 PM
In that price range you probably won't be able to take advantage of the mortgage interest deduction.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2013, 03:13:40 PM
In that price range you probably won't be able to take advantage of the mortgage interest deduction.

will depend on what other things he can itemize. I'm betting he can, especially filing single.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on January 07, 2013, 03:21:30 PM
Depending on the quantity of value you think you can create through the renovations, I wouldn't worry about the 20% down unless your renovations wouldn't increase the value of the home enough to cross that 20% threshold once complete.

I don't know about all loans, but my loan(non FHA) allows me to hire an appraiser after 12 months to re-eval the value of the home.  If the home is worth more, then my loan will recognize that new appraised value and adjust the % of ownership accordingly. 

Ex: I practically stole my house, but put down less than 20%. I plan to get an appraisal on it next fall as it was appraised at approx 25K more than what I bought it for and the houses for sale in the neighborhood that are comparable are asking $10-$15k above that.  So, if the neighbors aren't crazy and the last guy who did the appraisal isn't Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), I could spend $450 next fall for the appraisal, file it with the bank, and all of a sudden my % of equity will be enough to cross the 20% mark and my PMI will drop off.

All that said, PMI isn't very expensive.  Mine is like $80/mo.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: michigancat on January 07, 2013, 03:24:57 PM
In that price range you probably won't be able to take advantage of the mortgage interest deduction.

will depend on what other things he can itemize. I'm betting he can, especially filing single.

BET NOT. He's a firefighter, so has excellent medical coverage (2nd most common big deduction?). Plus he's almost engaged. Plus buying a house solo blows his mind so I can't imagine him doing a good job handling itemization.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: JohnCurrie is Weird/Gross on January 07, 2013, 03:26:01 PM
This crap is boring let's talk moats. PM me after you buy. I drew up this sketch over my lunch break and would be willing to cut you a goEMAW deal.

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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2013, 03:27:50 PM
In that price range you probably won't be able to take advantage of the mortgage interest deduction.

will depend on what other things he can itemize. I'm betting he can, especially filing single.

BET NOT. He's a firefighter, so has excellent medical coverage (2nd most common big deduction?). Plus he's almost engaged. Plus buying a house solo blows his mind so I can't imagine him doing a good job handling itemization.

hmmm, student loan debt? gambling losses?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 07, 2013, 03:28:36 PM
This crap is boring let's talk moats. PM me after you buy. I drew up this sketch over my lunch break and would be willing to cut you a goEMAW deal.

That's a horrible design and will have your house structurally deficient in no time.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Institutional Control on January 07, 2013, 03:31:09 PM
This crap is boring let's talk moats. PM me after you buy. I drew up this sketch over my lunch break and would be willing to cut you a goEMAW deal.

That's a horrible design and will have your house structurally deficient in no time.

Not to mention how easy it would be for someone to use the diving board to jump into that second floor window.

Dumbest. Moat. Ever.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: michigancat on January 07, 2013, 03:36:10 PM
In that price range you probably won't be able to take advantage of the mortgage interest deduction.

will depend on what other things he can itemize. I'm betting he can, especially filing single.

BET NOT. He's a firefighter, so has excellent medical coverage (2nd most common big deduction?). Plus he's almost engaged. Plus buying a house solo blows his mind so I can't imagine him doing a good job handling itemization.

hmmm, student loan debt? gambling losses?

You get the student loan interest deduction even if you don't itemize.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on January 07, 2013, 03:38:02 PM
In that price range you probably won't be able to take advantage of the mortgage interest deduction.

will depend on what other things he can itemize. I'm betting he can, especially filing single.

BET NOT. He's a firefighter, so has excellent medical coverage (2nd most common big deduction?). Plus he's almost engaged. Plus buying a house solo blows his mind so I can't imagine him doing a good job handling itemization.

you know me so well. do not itemize. will start after buying a house though.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2013, 03:38:44 PM
In that price range you probably won't be able to take advantage of the mortgage interest deduction.

will depend on what other things he can itemize. I'm betting he can, especially filing single.

BET NOT. He's a firefighter, so has excellent medical coverage (2nd most common big deduction?). Plus he's almost engaged. Plus buying a house solo blows his mind so I can't imagine him doing a good job handling itemization.

you know me so well. do not itemize. will start after buying a house though.

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on January 07, 2013, 03:39:58 PM
i have no student loan debt, paid cash for my ksu education  :cool:

also I pay approximately 0 dollars a month on health insurance  :dance: ($5 for dental though)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2013, 03:41:39 PM
i have no student loan debt, paid cash for my ksu education  :cool:

also I pay approximately 0 dollars a month on health insurance  :dance: ($5 for dental though)

between my wife and I we have about $100k in student loan debt. no big whoop.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Institutional Control on January 07, 2013, 03:42:31 PM
Student loan debt is the best debt.  I was sad the day I made my last payment. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mr Bread on January 07, 2013, 03:43:45 PM
This crap is boring let's talk moats. PM me after you buy. I drew up this sketch over my lunch break and would be willing to cut you a goEMAW deal.

That's a horrible design and will have your house structurally deficient in no time.

Not to mention how easy it would be for someone to use the diving board to jump into that second floor window.

Dumbest. Moat. Ever.

Might as well call it an outdoor urinal.  Won't be able to keep the neighborhood kids from pissing in it.  Like a goddamned piss magnet. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on January 07, 2013, 03:44:03 PM
Student loan debt is the best debt.  I was sad the day I made my last payment.

I'm not even going to ask. you'll just make fun of me and my pud ways
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Big Train on January 07, 2013, 03:47:20 PM
If you are looking at houses and want to know what the homeowners insurance would be on that particular house, I could help with that. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on January 07, 2013, 03:49:54 PM
If you are looking at houses and want to know what the homeowners insurance would be on that particular house, I could help with that.

so can just about every insurance website ever. or my insurance dude.

sorry guy.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Skipper44 on January 07, 2013, 03:51:31 PM
I am surprised we are 4 pages in w/o a realtor posting.  I guess a gE realtor maybe savvy enough to use pm
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 8manpick on January 07, 2013, 03:52:53 PM
I am surprised we are 4 pages in w/o a realtor posting.  I guess a gE realtor maybe savvy enough to use pm

here's the thing with a buyers agent, they get a cut of whatever you buy this place for. the sellers agent also gets a cut. this all takes away from your negotiating power. the seller is going to part with their house at $180k a lot easier than they would at $180k with 20% going to a couple of JCCC grads.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 07, 2013, 03:54:53 PM
i have no student loan debt, paid cash for my ksu education  :cool:

also I pay approximately 0 dollars a month on health insurance  :dance: ($5 for dental though)

between my wife and I we have about $100k in student loan debt. no big whoop.

yeah me too. agree is super pud.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Willesgirl on January 07, 2013, 03:55:15 PM
Well of course.  Fanning's sock doesn't have a mother as it is a sock and ipso facto that mother does not have a career.

i think you're mistaken, mr. bread.  fanning's sock is a female.  a girl.  female.  get that through your head.

Thank you, sys. And suck it, bread, and whoever else called me a sock.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: sys on January 07, 2013, 03:59:03 PM
Depending on the quantity of value you think you can create through the renovations, I wouldn't worry about the 20% down unless your renovations wouldn't increase the value of the home enough to cross that 20% threshold once complete...

All that said, PMI isn't very expensive.  Mine is like $80/mo.

good point and tip for our listener, cns casey.  he should do that.  $80/month is expensive though, in that $960/year would be a better return on the 15% of your house money than you could expect to get in the markets.  and no risk.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Big Train on January 07, 2013, 04:01:06 PM
If you are looking at houses and want to know what the homeowners insurance would be on that particular house, I could help with that.

so can just about every insurance website ever. or my insurance dude.

sorry guy.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2F703682d641c12786d7b7bc4b59d4b469%2Ftumblr_mes4j3nn5O1rusl0wo1_500.gif&hash=a2cfc850c0176f806ba2255d1c3842f2488f2205)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: sys on January 07, 2013, 04:01:33 PM
you know me so well. do not itemize. will start after buying a house though.

don't bother.  you aren't going to even be close to your standard deductions once you're married.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: sys on January 07, 2013, 04:06:38 PM
If you are looking at houses and want to know what the homeowners insurance would be on that particular house, I could help with that.

so can just about every insurance website ever. or my insurance dude.

sorry guy.

that was really mean, kcfdcat.  i maybe will give you bad advice from here on out, and hope you take it.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on January 07, 2013, 04:10:19 PM
If you are looking at houses and want to know what the homeowners insurance would be on that particular house, I could help with that.

so can just about every insurance website ever. or my insurance dude.

sorry guy.

that was really mean, kcfdcat.  i maybe will give you bad advice from here on out, and hope you take it.

it was. sorry TBT. hope I didn't hurt your feelings.

note to self. do not take sys advice.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mr Bread on January 07, 2013, 04:37:24 PM
Well of course.  Fanning's sock doesn't have a mother as it is a sock and ipso facto that mother does not have a career.

i think you're mistaken, mr. bread.  fanning's sock is a female.  a girl.  female.  get that through your head.

Thank you, sys. And suck it, bread, and whoever else called me a sock.

this fanning sock crap is creepier than anything fitz ever did to random 17 year old townies in his mother's basement.

:users:
Title: Re: Re: buying a house
Post by: kitten_mittons on January 07, 2013, 04:40:29 PM
I am surprised we are 4 pages in w/o a realtor posting.  I guess a gE realtor maybe savvy enough to use pm
Have you ever met a realtor? If there was a realtor on here, we'd hear about it 5 times a day at least.
Title: Re: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on January 07, 2013, 04:44:07 PM
I am surprised we are 4 pages in w/o a realtor posting.  I guess a gE realtor maybe savvy enough to use pm
Have you ever met a realtor? If there was a realtor on here, we'd hear about it 5 times a day at least.

And, it would be a great sign of who not to hire as a realtor.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on May 19, 2014, 11:04:04 AM
KCFDcat, have you approached HGTV for possible inclusion on a future episode of House Hunters or Property Virgins (w/ Sandra Rinomato)?

based upon your posts here i think you'd make a great subject for the show

this is a great option. do they pay you for that kind of stuff? I'll look into it. would wear an emaw shirt for every shot of course.

did you talk to anyone when you called HGTV? 

http://www.hgtv.com/about-us/are-you-getting-ready-to-buy-a-home/index.html

sending them an email as we speak. have to attach a picture. looking for something super elite and sexy. good thing I am both of those things.

is this you guys? (http://www.hgtv.com/house-hunters/style-battle-near-downtown-kansas-city/index.html)  you do seem kind of new and moderny, not sure about the husker you decided to marry though, but i guess she's prob old school. 

Quote
Style Battle Near Downtown Kansas City
A couple with a budget of $250,000 want out of their cramped condo, so they look for a large single family home near downtown Kansas City, but they don't agree when it comes to style: She likes old and charming, while he prefers new and modern.

tonight at 9pm   :fistpump:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on May 19, 2014, 03:23:01 PM
Nope not us. Didn't do the TV thing, did buy a house in Brookline though. Just finished renovations :Woohoo:

Also getting married in Saturday, so there's that.

Also, paid for the house 100% in cash. :cool:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on May 19, 2014, 03:25:26 PM
i knew it was you guys, your denial just proves it.  did you actually meet suzanne whang in person, what was she like? 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: slobber on May 19, 2014, 03:55:46 PM
Nope not us. Didn't do the TV thing, did buy a house in Brookline though. Just finished renovations :Woohoo:

Also getting married in Saturday, so there's that.

Also, paid for the house 100% in cash. :cool:
:cool:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: hemmy on May 19, 2014, 03:56:26 PM
KCFDcat, have you approached HGTV for possible inclusion on a future episode of House Hunters or Property Virgins (w/ Sandra Rinomato)?

based upon your posts here i think you'd make a great subject for the show

this is a great option. do they pay you for that kind of stuff? I'll look into it. would wear an emaw shirt for every shot of course.

did you talk to anyone when you called HGTV? 

http://www.hgtv.com/about-us/are-you-getting-ready-to-buy-a-home/index.html

sending them an email as we speak. have to attach a picture. looking for something super elite and sexy. good thing I am both of those things.

is this you guys? (http://www.hgtv.com/house-hunters/style-battle-near-downtown-kansas-city/index.html)  you do seem kind of new and moderny, not sure about the husker you decided to marry though, but i guess she's prob old school. 

Quote
Style Battle Near Downtown Kansas City
A couple with a budget of $250,000 want out of their cramped condo, so they look for a large single family home near downtown Kansas City, but they don't agree when it comes to style: She likes old and charming, while he prefers new and modern.

tonight at 9pm   :fistpump:

Let's hope their realtor points them to a nice JoCo alternative.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on January 27, 2016, 04:36:24 PM
In the process of buying soon.  Anyone bought a new build?  Pros/Cons?

It looks like it's either that or buying a pre-1950 pre-1940 home.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Skipper44 on January 27, 2016, 04:39:29 PM
pretty much everything you need to know about building is here
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=26704.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=26704.0)

Thank SD for his time
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ChiComCat on January 27, 2016, 04:47:04 PM
In the process of buying soon.  Anyone bought a new build?  Pros/Cons?

It looks like it's either that or buying a pre-1950 pre-1940 home.
I am thinking you are talking about one already built rather than one you are building?

I bought a new build before - do research on the company that built it and get some sort of warranty.  I had some little things like issues with an outlet here or there, a cable jack, a garage issue, and some caulking that was missed that I would have them come in and fix.  Most was things that I could've done myself but it was nice to put on a professional.

Anything you think you might want to do/change in the future, try to work into negotiations.  Even if you want something that you will buy professionally installed, try to make them do it.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on January 27, 2016, 04:53:37 PM
In the process of buying soon.  Anyone bought a new build?  Pros/Cons?

It looks like it's either that or buying a pre-1950 pre-1940 home.
I am thinking you are talking about one already built rather than one you are building?

I bought a new build before - do research on the company that built it and get some sort of warranty.  I had some little things like issues with an outlet here or there, a cable jack, a garage issue, and some caulking that was missed that I would have them come in and fix.  Most was things that I could've done myself but it was nice to put on a professional.

Anything you think you might want to do/change in the future, try to work into negotiations.  Even if you want something that you will buy professionally installed, try to make them do it.

Yeah, didn't clarify.  Went through 10 pages of that previous thread and pretty much got that it's beneficial to have fresh eggs, an upstairs and downstairs laundry, and kim carnes thinks everyone is terrible.

But yeah, it's a new build community, about 15-20 different designs/sizes of house that they will start building and you pick layout/different options/finishes/etc.  When you are talking about getting something done in the future to negotiate, what do you mean... like try and get them to do it when they are building?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: slobber on January 27, 2016, 05:06:08 PM
Have bought 2 new builds. You will have some difficulty getting the little crap fixed/finished by the builder, but it's still worth it. Make good lists of things that need fixed or corrected. We have had a 30 day check list and a 1 year check list in both instances. Stay on them, they don't want a bad reputation about not following up. Walk through Ye neighborhood and find a couple of people that have bought through the builder you are looking to buy from and ask them for feedback on their work and responsiveness after the sale.


Gonna win 'em all! (using Tapatalk)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on January 27, 2016, 05:18:00 PM
Have bought 2 new builds. You will have some difficulty getting the little crap fixed/finished by the builder, but it's still worth it. Make good lists of things that need fixed or corrected. We have had a 30 day check list and a 1 year check list in both instances. Stay on them, they don't want a bad reputation about not following up. Walk through Ye neighborhood and find a couple of people that have bought through the builder you are looking to buy from and ask them for feedback on their work and responsiveness after the sale.


Gonna win 'em all! (using Tapatalk)

What made it worth it?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on January 27, 2016, 05:20:21 PM
Have bought 2 new builds. You will have some difficulty getting the little crap fixed/finished by the builder, but it's still worth it. Make good lists of things that need fixed or corrected. We have had a 30 day check list and a 1 year check list in both instances. Stay on them, they don't want a bad reputation about not following up. Walk through Ye neighborhood and find a couple of people that have bought through the builder you are looking to buy from and ask them for feedback on their work and responsiveness after the sale.


Gonna win 'em all! (using Tapatalk)

What made it worth it?
not having to deal with the previous owner's dead skin flakes and dust mites and other gross crap that you can't see or remove.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: michigancat on January 27, 2016, 05:28:01 PM
seems like a pain in the ass
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on January 27, 2016, 05:32:12 PM
i'm very picky and don't want to deal with other's choice of cabinet pulls
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on January 27, 2016, 05:36:59 PM
If building, don't go for max sqft/$.  You will be pretty frustrated in like 3-4 yrs.  Little things matter.  Get high insulation value windows and doors.  Max out insulation in walls and attic.  If you have rooms above a garage, have them insulate the garage ceiling as if it was the attic and make sure they insulate the garage walls.  Also, insulated garage doors, not the cheap Masonite ones.  After that, upgrade carpet.  Builder crap wears down noticeably in less than a yr.  Get hard woods if you can swing it.

Buy up on the dishwasher so it don't sound like you left the garbage disposal on. 

Get a paint job where they brush/roll back after spraying and do a complete caulk job in prep.

Make sure those fuckers put drip edge and flashing over all windows and doors, as well as at the rake of the roof.

Make sure grade never slopes toward the house and that the yard drainage is graded adequately to move water.

Make sure they don't freeze concrete if pouring in cold.

If you can afford it, tell them you want 9' ceilings I the basement, or at least the walls poured so that the ceilings can be 9' when finished. 

Also, watch out for undersized ac units.  Lots of starter guys put I small ones that run rough ridin' constantly. 

Lots of other stuff too.  Things like home building are super easy to cut corners.  Your builder isn't your buddy. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on January 27, 2016, 05:41:38 PM
If building, don't go for max sqft/$.  You will be pretty frustrated in like 3-4 yrs.  Little things matter.  Get high insulation value windows and doors.  Max out insulation in walls and attic.  If you have rooms above a garage, have them insulate the garage ceiling as if it was the attic and make sure they insulate the garage walls.  Also, insulated garage doors, not the cheap Masonite ones.  After that, upgrade carpet.  Builder crap wears down noticeably in less than a yr.  Get hard woods if you can swing it.

Buy up on the dishwasher so it don't sound like you left the garbage disposal on. 

Get a paint job where they brush/roll back after spraying and do a complete caulk job in prep.

Make sure those fuckers put drip edge and flashing over all windows and doors, as well as at the rake of the roof.

Make sure grade never slopes toward the house and that the yard drainage is graded adequately to move water.

Make sure they don't freeze concrete if pouring in cold.

If you can afford it, tell them you want 9' ceilings I the basement, or at least the walls poured so that the ceilings can be 9' when finished. 

Also, watch out for undersized ac units.  Lots of starter guys put I small ones that run rough ridin' constantly. 

Lots of other stuff too.  Things like home building are super easy to cut corners.  Your builder isn't your buddy.

Like we've been saying, it's a new build community.  All these decisions are on plans already and you can pick and choose different layouts/materials/addons depending on how much you want to spend.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on January 27, 2016, 05:45:52 PM
All this applies to a new build community.  Asking questions never hurt anyone.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: michigancat on January 27, 2016, 06:07:23 PM
like, dub, don't ask for advice and then be a jerk about the advice.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on January 27, 2016, 06:10:46 PM
Sorry dudes, not trying to be a jerk.  Just end of the day.  Appreciate the info CNS, just thought it sounded like you were talking about having your own contractor do the work with that stuff.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on January 27, 2016, 06:18:27 PM
Nope.  Plans say the right thing 99% of the time.  Builders build to actual plan at a lesser percentage.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on January 27, 2016, 06:24:34 PM
If building, don't go for max sqft/$.  You will be pretty frustrated in like 3-4 yrs.  Little things matter.  Get high insulation value windows and doors.  Max out insulation in walls and attic.  If you have rooms above a garage, have them insulate the garage ceiling as if it was the attic and make sure they insulate the garage walls.  Also, insulated garage doors, not the cheap Masonite ones.  After that, upgrade carpet.  Builder crap wears down noticeably in less than a yr.  Get hard woods if you can swing it.

Buy up on the dishwasher so it don't sound like you left the garbage disposal on. 

Get a paint job where they brush/roll back after spraying and do a complete caulk job in prep.

Make sure those fuckers put drip edge and flashing over all windows and doors, as well as at the rake of the roof.

Make sure grade never slopes toward the house and that the yard drainage is graded adequately to move water.

Make sure they don't freeze concrete if pouring in cold.

If you can afford it, tell them you want 9' ceilings I the basement, or at least the walls poured so that the ceilings can be 9' when finished. 

Also, watch out for undersized ac units.  Lots of starter guys put I small ones that run rough ridin' constantly. 

Lots of other stuff too.  Things like home building are super easy to cut corners.  Your builder isn't your buddy.


Don't know much about insulation values, but standard comes with R-21 in 6 inch walls on 1st/2nd story, with R-50 in attic and R-49 above garage?  That considered high insulation value?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on January 27, 2016, 06:25:15 PM
Nope.  Plans say the right thing 99% of the time.  Builders build to actual plan at a lesser percentage.

Gotcha.  So do you have a to hawkeye the build the entire time?  Or just hire a home inspector as it moves through construction?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on January 27, 2016, 06:34:15 PM
Those are good insulation values.  In the garage, make sure the exterior garage walls get the same insulation as the exterior living space walls.  Some times they don't do that, then they run pipes in the garage ceiling. Bad combo.

You do need to look over the house as it goes up.  The inspector doesn't care about most of the stuff I listed. They only care about structural and life safety stuff, for the most part.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on January 27, 2016, 06:39:19 PM
Those are good insulation values.  In the garage, make sure the exterior garage walls get the same insulation as the exterior living space walls.  Some times they don't do that, then they run pipes in the garage ceiling. Bad combo.

You do need to look over the house as it goes up.  The inspector doesn't care about most of the stuff I listed. They only care about structural and life safety stuff, for the most part.

Makes sense.  Sounds like a pain but prob worth it.  You owned one before or in construction field?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on January 27, 2016, 06:46:12 PM
Both.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on January 27, 2016, 06:49:26 PM
Is Energy Star 3.0 certification a really good thing or pretty meh and standard?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on January 27, 2016, 06:58:26 PM
I haven't dealt with that type of a cert.  It's been a minute since I was in the residential building industry.  First blush, I would say that it's something you need to do due diligence on as the inspector wont.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on January 27, 2016, 09:00:30 PM
Black dirt.  Some new neighborhoods are stripped here to fill there and sometimes you can be left with less than awesome dirt which sucks to establish a lawn in.  Make sure they plan on topping the yard with black dirt before sod or seed.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: slobber on January 27, 2016, 09:10:56 PM
Worth it because you have a 1-10 year warranty on everything on the house. Nice to live in new house. Research stuff and stay on top of the builder after the build. Not hard or difficult, just be aware.


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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: slobber on January 27, 2016, 09:14:00 PM
Been in this new build 7 years. Getting 3 new Windows because the seals broke and moisture is between the pains. We stay on top of it. We have a neighbor that I can look out my window and count 10 windows that should be replaced. They are unaware and won't get them fixed. 5 years from now when they try the sell, they will pay out of pocket to fix them.


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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on January 27, 2016, 09:43:46 PM
Been in this new build 7 years. Getting 3 new Windows because the seals broke and moisture is between the pains. We stay on top of it. We have a neighbor that I can look out my window and count 10 windows that should be replaced. They are unaware and won't get them fixed. 5 years from now when they try the sell, they will pay out of pocket to fix them.


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are you expecting the window market to outpace inflation or what?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: slobber on January 28, 2016, 03:53:30 AM
It was an example of the benefit of buying new construction


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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 28, 2016, 08:25:27 AM
Just realized I've been mixing up, or thinking erii is kim carnes.  Weird.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Institutional Control on January 28, 2016, 08:32:48 AM
Just realized I've been mixing up, or thinking erii is kim carnes.  Weird.

Weird thread to put that in.  Maybe the "Shame" thread would have been a better choice.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 28, 2016, 08:56:59 AM
Well it was by reading this thread that I realized it.  But I do see your point.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on January 28, 2016, 08:58:19 AM
It was an example of the benefit of buying new construction


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ok but they're going to pay out of pocket to fix their windows regardless of when they get them fixed.  and you said your house was a new build and has the same issue as your neighbor's house (albeit not as bad).  i'm guessing their home was new build too (although it doesn't matter).

slobber: i keep an eye on my windows, we need 3 fixed
neighbor:  i don't know that i need 10 windows fixed
slobber:  i'm going to get mine done now
neighbor:  i'm getting mine fixed when i sell
slobber:  SEE GUYS, NEW CONSTRUCTION PWNS!

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ChiComCat on January 28, 2016, 09:02:55 AM
In the process of buying soon.  Anyone bought a new build?  Pros/Cons?

It looks like it's either that or buying a pre-1950 pre-1940 home.
I am thinking you are talking about one already built rather than one you are building?

I bought a new build before - do research on the company that built it and get some sort of warranty.  I had some little things like issues with an outlet here or there, a cable jack, a garage issue, and some caulking that was missed that I would have them come in and fix.  Most was things that I could've done myself but it was nice to put on a professional.

Anything you think you might want to do/change in the future, try to work into negotiations.  Even if you want something that you will buy professionally installed, try to make them do it.

Yeah, didn't clarify.  Went through 10 pages of that previous thread and pretty much got that it's beneficial to have fresh eggs, an upstairs and downstairs laundry, and kim carnes thinks everyone is terrible.

But yeah, it's a new build community, about 15-20 different designs/sizes of house that they will start building and you pick layout/different options/finishes/etc.  When you are talking about getting something done in the future to negotiate, what do you mean... like try and get them to do it when they are building?

I was referring to a new home that was already built but in your case, have them do whatever you want while they are building.  Don't think about adding, for example a wet bar later.  Have them do it so they will plan the plumbing/electrical whatever properly and it will be cheaper than someone coming in later.  The extra labor and supplies are marginal compared to what they plan to make on the house.

Also, like CNS said, get high ceilings in the basement.  Otherwise it will always feel shitty and basementy instead of like more living space
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on January 28, 2016, 09:04:41 AM
why do people always put carpet in their basement?  makes it feel basementy (like low ceilings) and also, carpet is disgusting.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 28, 2016, 09:08:33 AM
You know what's disgusting?  Pulling up old basement carpet and discovering what's under there.  :sdeek:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on January 28, 2016, 09:11:40 AM
It was an example of the benefit of buying new construction


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ok but they're going to pay out of pocket to fix their windows regardless of when they get them fixed.  and you said your house was a new build and has the same issue as your neighbor's house (albeit not as bad).  i'm guessing their home was new build too (although it doesn't matter).

slobber: i keep an eye on my windows, we need 3 fixed
neighbor:  i don't know that i need 10 windows fixed
slobber:  i'm going to get mine done now
neighbor:  i'm getting mine fixed when i sell
slobber:  SEE GUYS, NEW CONSTRUCTION PWNS!

 :rolleyes:

Warranties
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on January 28, 2016, 09:14:32 AM
whose idea was bathroom carpet? :lol:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 28, 2016, 09:17:24 AM
whose idea was bathroom carpet? :lol:

Bathroom carpet is great when you are sleeping in the bathroom.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on January 28, 2016, 09:18:47 AM
Carpet is disgusting and I feel bad for anyone that has it anywhere in their house
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on January 28, 2016, 09:20:19 AM
Carpet is disgusting and I feel bad for anyone that has it anywhere in their house
agreed
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 28, 2016, 09:33:16 AM
whose idea was bathroom carpet? :lol:

in college, some friends of mine had a carpeted bathroom that used to grow mushrooms.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on January 28, 2016, 09:35:24 AM
whose idea was bathroom carpet? :lol:

in college, some friends of mine had a carpeted bathroom that used to grow mushrooms.

 :sdeek:  no!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on January 28, 2016, 10:02:07 AM
Aethestic/functionality question for all you homeowners. 

Would you rather have a living room type area on the 2nd floor facing a wall of windows (in addition to a living space on the 1st floor open to the kitchen) and have a 3rd bedroom in the basement with a smaller utility area?

Or.. have the 3rd bedroom in that space on the 2nd floor and have a living space in the basement?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on January 28, 2016, 10:03:04 AM
Theater room in basement
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ChiComCat on January 28, 2016, 10:25:42 AM
I would do living space in basement and bedroom upstairs - but this is based on having 9ft ceilings in the basement
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: slobber on January 28, 2016, 10:30:25 AM

It was an example of the benefit of buying new construction


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ok but they're going to pay out of pocket to fix their windows regardless of when they get them fixed.  and you said your house was a new build and has the same issue as your neighbor's house (albeit not as bad).  i'm guessing their home was new build too (although it doesn't matter).

slobber: i keep an eye on my windows, we need 3 fixed
neighbor:  i don't know that i need 10 windows fixed
slobber:  i'm going to get mine done now
neighbor:  i'm getting mine fixed when i sell
slobber:  SEE GUYS, NEW CONSTRUCTION PWNS!

 :rolleyes:
I get mine fixed free under warranty?


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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on January 28, 2016, 10:48:59 AM

It was an example of the benefit of buying new construction


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ok but they're going to pay out of pocket to fix their windows regardless of when they get them fixed.  and you said your house was a new build and has the same issue as your neighbor's house (albeit not as bad).  i'm guessing their home was new build too (although it doesn't matter).

slobber: i keep an eye on my windows, we need 3 fixed
neighbor:  i don't know that i need 10 windows fixed
slobber:  i'm going to get mine done now
neighbor:  i'm getting mine fixed when i sell
slobber:  SEE GUYS, NEW CONSTRUCTION PWNS!

 :rolleyes:
I get mine fixed free under warranty?


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warranties aren't exclusive to new homes
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Skipper44 on January 28, 2016, 11:05:08 AM
Aethestic/functionality question for all you homeowners. 

Would you rather have a living room type area on the 2nd floor facing a wall of windows (in addition to a living space on the 1st floor open to the kitchen) and have a 3rd bedroom in the basement with a smaller utility area?

Or.. have the 3rd bedroom in that space on the 2nd floor and have a living space in the basement?
Dub, do you have kids/plan to have kids in this home?  I would only go with the the 2nd level living space if you have a school age kid that will use that 2nd living area and you feel comfortable with their room being in the basement. 

Also, unless you have an egress window in the basement bedroom you can't legally call it a bedroom and you would be listing your house as a 2 bedroom when selling.  IIRC you are a Denverite so you prolly have a stronger market of couples w/o kids & singles than say KC area.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on January 28, 2016, 11:16:10 AM
Dub, what is the exposure of the first option windows?  If its a western exposure, that bedroom will suck in the summer.  Like, bad.  Especially in a new neighborhood where the tallest tree is like 10-15 yrs from providing any shade to the second floor.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on January 28, 2016, 11:17:29 AM
Also, if you aren't already in love with a specific lot, look at exposure for bedrooms and back yard.  Western exposures suck and will keep you uncomfortable in the bedroom and not wanting to use your backyard in the summer.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Institutional Control on January 28, 2016, 11:21:04 AM
Last house, the front faced east. It was the worst. 

New house faces south.  Lots of shade in the backyard. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on January 28, 2016, 11:25:55 AM
Aethestic/functionality question for all you homeowners. 

Would you rather have a living room type area on the 2nd floor facing a wall of windows (in addition to a living space on the 1st floor open to the kitchen) and have a 3rd bedroom in the basement with a smaller utility area?

Or.. have the 3rd bedroom in that space on the 2nd floor and have a living space in the basement?
Dub, do you have kids/plan to have kids in this home?  I would only go with the the 2nd level living space if you have a school age kid that will use that 2nd living area and you feel comfortable with their room being in the basement. 

Also, unless you have an egress window in the basement bedroom you can't legally call it a bedroom and you would be listing your house as a 2 bedroom when selling.  IIRC you are a Denverite so you prolly have a stronger market of couples w/o kids & singles than say KC area.

No kids, maybe in 4-5 years?  And yes, Denverite so your right but still a lot of kids around this neighborhood.  New school being put up a few blocks away.  And basement has egress and is considered bedroom with full bath connected.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Skipper44 on January 28, 2016, 11:34:19 AM
Aethestic/functionality question for all you homeowners. 

Would you rather have a living room type area on the 2nd floor facing a wall of windows (in addition to a living space on the 1st floor open to the kitchen) and have a 3rd bedroom in the basement with a smaller utility area?

Or.. have the 3rd bedroom in that space on the 2nd floor and have a living space in the basement?
Dub, do you have kids/plan to have kids in this home?  I would only go with the the 2nd level living space if you have a school age kid that will use that 2nd living area and you feel comfortable with their room being in the basement. 

Also, unless you have an egress window in the basement bedroom you can't legally call it a bedroom and you would be listing your house as a 2 bedroom when selling.  IIRC you are a Denverite so you prolly have a stronger market of couples w/o kids & singles than say KC area.

No kids, maybe in 4-5 years?  And yes, Denverite so your right but still a lot of kids around this neighborhood.  New school being put up a few blocks away.  And basement has egress and is considered bedroom with full bath connected.
Is there a way you could have the 2nd living area be configured so it could be converted to a bedroom fairly easily?  Like may be french doors instead of an open loft, maybe a built-in media area that could become a closet?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on January 28, 2016, 11:35:35 AM
Dub, what is the exposure of the first option windows?  If its a western exposure, that bedroom will suck in the summer.  Like, bad.  Especially in a new neighborhood where the tallest tree is like 10-15 yrs from providing any shade to the second floor.

Haven't picked a lot (or even decided on this community or even a new build, but will within a month or so).  It's split in half throughout the community, half are either western or eastern (Mountain view/Downtown View) and half are north or south.  There's no backyard (Alleyway garage), "yard" is courtyard style on the side of the property with a wraparound porch and houses are close enough that exposure wouldn't be that high there.

With the windows, yes, the sun here is brutal when facing E/W but we've found some workarounds for it at our current place.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on January 28, 2016, 11:38:11 AM
Aethestic/functionality question for all you homeowners. 

Would you rather have a living room type area on the 2nd floor facing a wall of windows (in addition to a living space on the 1st floor open to the kitchen) and have a 3rd bedroom in the basement with a smaller utility area?

Or.. have the 3rd bedroom in that space on the 2nd floor and have a living space in the basement?
Dub, do you have kids/plan to have kids in this home?  I would only go with the the 2nd level living space if you have a school age kid that will use that 2nd living area and you feel comfortable with their room being in the basement. 

Also, unless you have an egress window in the basement bedroom you can't legally call it a bedroom and you would be listing your house as a 2 bedroom when selling.  IIRC you are a Denverite so you prolly have a stronger market of couples w/o kids & singles than say KC area.

No kids, maybe in 4-5 years?  And yes, Denverite so your right but still a lot of kids around this neighborhood.  New school being put up a few blocks away.  And basement has egress and is considered bedroom with full bath connected.
Is there a way you could have the 2nd living area be configured so it could be converted to a bedroom fairly easily?  Like may be french doors instead of an open loft, maybe a built-in media area that could become a closet?

It'd be easy to convert both the basement and/or upstairs to a bedroom with about one wall and a closet.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 28, 2016, 11:44:35 AM
I saw a new house go on the market that I like a lot.. Seems like it would be a pretty big mistake to try to sell a home I haven't had for a year tho  :frown:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on January 28, 2016, 11:46:19 AM
I saw a new house go on the market that I like a lot.. Seems like it would be a pretty big mistake to try to sell a home I haven't had for a year tho  :frown:

I think you would take a capital gains tax hit.  iirc, you need to own it for like a year to not.  I am no accountant, though.  Could be wrong.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on January 28, 2016, 12:14:22 PM
Dub so help me if you build a brand new house and then put carpet in it
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 28, 2016, 12:14:44 PM
I saw a new house go on the market that I like a lot.. Seems like it would be a pretty big mistake to try to sell a home I haven't had for a year tho  :frown:

I think you would take a capital gains tax hit.  iirc, you need to own it for like a year to not.  I am no accountant, though.  Could be wrong.
luckily they can't tax me on these gains
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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on January 28, 2016, 12:18:50 PM
Dub so help me if you build a brand new house and then put carpet in it

First floor is all wood.  Bedrooms/basement are up to the buyer I think (aka Ms. Dub) but she doesn't like carpet really so..
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on January 28, 2016, 12:25:45 PM
Dub so help me if you build a brand new house and then put carpet in it

First floor is all wood.  Bedrooms/basement are up to the buyer I think (aka Ms. Dub) but she doesn't like carpet really so..

Inexpensive and awesome looking:  stain the concrete slab in the basement.  They can polish it to look very smooth, stain it, then they have a sealer/coating that is clear, still looks smooth, yet adds traction so that the floor isn't crazy slippery.  Do that.  It can look bad ass. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on January 28, 2016, 12:39:52 PM
Just googled and that looks awesome.   :thumbs:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: slobber on January 28, 2016, 12:42:55 PM

Dub so help me if you build a brand new house and then put carpet in it

First floor is all wood.  Bedrooms/basement are up to the buyer I think (aka Ms. Dub) but she doesn't like carpet really so..

Inexpensive and awesome looking:  stain the concrete slab in the basement.  They can polish it to look very smooth, stain it, then they have a sealer/coating that is clear, still looks smooth, yet adds traction so that the floor isn't crazy slippery.  Do that.  It can look bad ass.
have seen this a lot and I love it. Put an offer on a house once with it and my wife cried when we lost to a higher bidder. She CRIED because she didn't get this type of basement!


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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on January 28, 2016, 12:46:52 PM

Dub so help me if you build a brand new house and then put carpet in it

First floor is all wood.  Bedrooms/basement are up to the buyer I think (aka Ms. Dub) but she doesn't like carpet really so..

Inexpensive and awesome looking:  stain the concrete slab in the basement.  They can polish it to look very smooth, stain it, then they have a sealer/coating that is clear, still looks smooth, yet adds traction so that the floor isn't crazy slippery.  Do that.  It can look bad ass.
have seen this a lot and I love it. Put an offer on a house once with it and my wife cried when we lost to a higher bidder. She CRIED because she didn't get this type of basement!


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There is a new epoxy skim coat I have seen that goes down on existing concrete that can give you a real similar look.  Its like a one day process too, so I don't think it would be very expensive.  They can make it look like stained conc, like metal, like marble, etc.  Its equally cool.  Check it out and cheer Mrs Dobs up.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on January 28, 2016, 12:56:23 PM
you can also stamp pattern into the concrete before sealing/staining
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: dmartin on January 28, 2016, 02:15:02 PM
Dub, what is the exposure of the first option windows?  If its a western exposure, that bedroom will suck in the summer.  Like, bad.  Especially in a new neighborhood where the tallest tree is like 10-15 yrs from providing any shade to the second floor.

Haven't picked a lot (or even decided on this community or even a new build, but will within a month or so).  It's split in half throughout the community, half are either western or eastern (Mountain view/Downtown View) and half are north or south.  There's no backyard (Alleyway garage), "yard" is courtyard style on the side of the property with a wraparound porch and houses are close enough that exposure wouldn't be that high there.

With the windows, yes, the sun here is brutal when facing E/W but we've found some workarounds for it at our current place.

Another benefit of a southern facing house, is snow melts off the driveway much quicker. Our driveway will be clear and dry days before the guy across the street.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on January 28, 2016, 03:35:34 PM
Dub, what is the exposure of the first option windows?  If its a western exposure, that bedroom will suck in the summer.  Like, bad.  Especially in a new neighborhood where the tallest tree is like 10-15 yrs from providing any shade to the second floor.

Haven't picked a lot (or even decided on this community or even a new build, but will within a month or so).  It's split in half throughout the community, half are either western or eastern (Mountain view/Downtown View) and half are north or south.  There's no backyard (Alleyway garage), "yard" is courtyard style on the side of the property with a wraparound porch and houses are close enough that exposure wouldn't be that high there.

With the windows, yes, the sun here is brutal when facing E/W but we've found some workarounds for it at our current place.

Another benefit of a southern facing house, is snow melts off the driveway much quicker. Our driveway will be clear and dry days before the guy across the street.

Snow melts off within the same day usually out here anyway so not too worried about that.. more death by sunlight.  Used to be on a 10th floor apt that faced west and it would cook our apartment from 3-6 everyday.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on January 28, 2016, 07:07:09 PM
Move to Longmont and buy a fixer upper
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on January 28, 2016, 10:45:27 PM
Move to Longmont and buy a fixer upper

Not quite our style up there and I don't have time for a fixer upper
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: IPA4Me on January 30, 2016, 08:57:41 AM
Is Energy Star 3.0 certification a really good thing or pretty meh and standard?
It's a good standard but it's only as good as the rater. If I was having a home built, I would hire my own energy rater. They will be on your side and truly keep the builder following the ES3.0 guidelines.


http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=bldrs_lenders_raters.nh_v3_guidelines


You're had some good recommendations regarding things to make sure are in the builder package. I can't emphasize enough the importance of proper insulation and HVAC equipment sizing. Personally, I'd spring for foam insulation especially with a bonus room over the garage. Batt insulation doesn't stop air movement. If you stop the air movement, you can much easier control the home's environment.


If you have long term plans to live here, I'd also go with a solar panel package. Something that can handle a bulk of the loads. If you really want to go all in on efficiency, strive for a net zero build. It's a given that utility rates will increase over the next twenty years. So, why not hedge the increase with an energy efficient home that provides all your electric needs?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on January 30, 2016, 09:59:27 AM
Is Energy Star 3.0 certification a really good thing or pretty meh and standard?
It's a good standard but it's only as good as the rater. If I was having a home built, I would hire my own energy rater. They will be on your side and truly keep the builder following the ES3.0 guidelines.


http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=bldrs_lenders_raters.nh_v3_guidelines


You're had some good recommendations regarding things to make sure are in the builder package. I can't emphasize enough the importance of proper insulation and HVAC equipment sizing. Personally, I'd spring for foam insulation especially with a bonus room over the garage. Batt insulation doesn't stop air movement. If you stop the air movement, you can much easier control the home's environment.


If you have long term plans to live here, I'd also go with a solar panel package. Something that can handle a bulk of the loads. If you really want to go all in on efficiency, strive for a net zero build. It's a given that utility rates will increase over the next twenty years. So, why not hedge the increase with an energy efficient home that provides all your electric needs?

Is foam ins the same as blown in?

Walls are blown in fiberglass R-23 6 inch.  Attic is R-50 cellulose.  2nd floor over unconditioned spaces are R-49 blown in.  Box sills and rims are R-21 batts.

Sound good?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on January 30, 2016, 10:20:49 AM
No, foam is not blown in.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: IPA4Me on January 30, 2016, 10:22:12 AM
If not going all foam insulation, I would request rims to be foam as well as any bonus room floors above a garage.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 30, 2016, 10:51:35 AM
polished concrete is awesome. if I had a basement I would have it.

carpet is disgusting and horrible. we have hardwood everywhere except bathrooms/kitchen/laundry where it's tile.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Kat Kid on January 30, 2016, 10:55:03 AM
wood floor buddies-----how often/how difficult is it to clean.  Think tiny children monsters scuffing it up and such on the reg.  I feel as though carpet is just so lol with kids that you just absorb the damage until the carpet looks like a Mangino office towel and then replace.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Pete on January 30, 2016, 10:56:54 AM
polished concrete is awesome. if I had a basement I would have it.

carpet is disgusting and horrible. we have hardwood everywhere except bathrooms/kitchen/laundry where it's tile.

How about when your kids are playing in the basement and listening to music and you are trying to watch a TV show on the floor above them?   Do you like that concrete floor then?  I don't because it sounds like a rough ridin' circus in a dungeon down there. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Pete on January 30, 2016, 10:59:18 AM
wood floor buddies-----how often/how difficult is it to clean.  Think tiny children monsters scuffing it up and such on the reg.  I feel as though carpet is just so lol with kids that you just absorb the damage until the carpet looks like a Mangino office towel and then replace.

My hardwoods are from 1980, and haven't been refinished, and won't be until my kids get bigger and my old Golden passes away.  Until then, we say it has "character."  I love them for kitchen, front hall, and main family room.  I have a carpeted "den" where we have a little tv watching area and I enjoy the coziness of that room with the carpet (good acoustics too).
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on January 30, 2016, 11:03:00 AM
Yeah, hardwood/concrete and acoustics are natural enemies.  Even with a good rug.

I want hardwoods but have a lab and a basset.  The basset has the most dense dog nails I have ever seen, and looking into in online, they are one of two breeds that ppl say are near imposible to keep from gouging floors.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 8manpick on January 30, 2016, 11:42:43 AM

polished concrete is awesome. if I had a basement I would have it.

carpet is disgusting and horrible. we have hardwood everywhere except bathrooms/kitchen/laundry where it's tile.

How about when your kids are playing in the basement and listening to music and you are trying to watch a TV show on the floor above them?   Do you like that concrete floor then?  I don't because it sounds like a rough ridin' circus in a dungeon down there.

Also when your kids are trying to recreate the Harlem Heat vs The Outsiders title match, you definitely want the cushion that carpet provides.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on January 30, 2016, 11:49:32 AM
That's what beds are for
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: michigancat on January 30, 2016, 11:51:10 AM
hardwood floors are better than carpet
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Kat Kid on January 30, 2016, 01:37:50 PM
I think we can all agree that especially with children a carpeted basement is a feature, not a bug.  I will refocus my efforts on main floor hardwood.


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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: IPA4Me on January 30, 2016, 01:43:24 PM
Gross. Basement carpet is disgusting. It's a giant petri dish. The concrete is curing for years. When you put carpet on it, the carpet absorbs moisture and starts growing mold on the backside. Bleh.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on January 30, 2016, 02:26:39 PM
the thing about carpet is it's super cheap. just buy new carpet every 6 or 7 years. our house is about 1/3 each of hardwood, tile, carpet. I cannot imagine having a non-carpeted kids play areas and bedrooms. my knees would get trashed. carpet with a super thick pad are essential.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 30, 2016, 02:47:53 PM
wood floor buddies-----how often/how difficult is it to clean.  Think tiny children monsters scuffing it up and such on the reg.  I feel as though carpet is just so lol with kids that you just absorb the damage until the carpet looks like a Mangino office towel and then replace.

(https://us.bona.com/products/hardwood-floor-cleaner-36oz/image/HW-36-Cleaner-WM700059001.png)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 30, 2016, 02:48:47 PM
It works great and every time I get it out I can make the same hilarious "look at the size of my bona" joke to my wife  :lol:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: slobber on January 30, 2016, 03:10:18 PM

It works great and every time I get it out I can make the same hilarious "look at the size of my bona" joke to my wife  :lol:
That's a good joke, and the fact that you make that joke with your wife every time you get it out leads me to think you have a good wife.
Good job all around GFA!


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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 30, 2016, 04:54:59 PM
thanks!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: _33 on January 30, 2016, 05:01:22 PM
the thing about carpet is it's super cheap. just buy new carpet every 6 or 7 years. our house is about 1/3 each of hardwood, tile, carpet. I cannot imagine having a non-carpeted kids play areas and bedrooms. my knees would get trashed. carpet with a super thick pad are essential.

Best type of carpet for not looking terrible after a few months with kids and pets:  Frieze
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on March 04, 2016, 10:30:16 AM
So switched directions completely and are most likely going with a house built around the 40s-50s.  CNS (or any other knowledgeable cat), it'll be renovated so is there any things to look for to see how quality of a job they did?

We expect some problems with an old home but are there general things to look out for?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on March 04, 2016, 10:32:31 AM
Foundation and insulation
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 04, 2016, 10:59:48 AM
Missed the hardwood floor talk but in my old house it had laminate and holy crap it was indestructible.  My two hounds tore ass all over the place and it's not scratched at all.  For that reason we're putting Pergo XP laminate in our basement.  Ya it's not real wood but who cares it looks great and it's very durable.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: _33 on March 04, 2016, 11:07:17 AM
Missed the hardwood floor talk but in my old house it had laminate and holy crap it was indestructible.  My two hounds tore ass all over the place and it's not scratched at all.  For that reason we're putting Pergo XP laminate in our basement.  Ya it's not real wood but who cares it looks great and it's very durable.

We almost with with laminate but I couldn't get over seeing the pattern.  Strand Woven bamboo engineered hardwood floors are almost as cheap and just as indestructible, without the obvious pattern of a laminate.  Also bamboo is a renewable resource. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 04, 2016, 11:12:39 AM
Missed the hardwood floor talk but in my old house it had laminate and holy crap it was indestructible.  My two hounds tore ass all over the place and it's not scratched at all.  For that reason we're putting Pergo XP laminate in our basement.  Ya it's not real wood but who cares it looks great and it's very durable.

We almost with with laminate but I couldn't get over seeing the pattern.  Strand Woven bamboo engineered hardwood floors are almost as cheap and just as indestructible, without the obvious pattern of a laminate.  Also bamboo is a renewable resource.

Links to products?  I'd certainly consider changing except I have two pallets of this stuff taking up a garage space right now.  :curse:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 04, 2016, 11:19:58 AM
Goddamnit.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Home-Decorators-Collection-Strand-Woven-Warm-Espresso-3-8-in-x-5-1-8-in-Wide-x-36-in-Length-Click-Engineered-Bamboo-Flooring-25-625-sq-ft-case-AM1312E/205170976   :love:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Institutional Control on March 04, 2016, 11:26:36 AM
My last house had dark bamboo floors. They were beautiful but they were a giant pain to keep from scratching.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ednksu on March 04, 2016, 12:24:55 PM
So switched directions completely and are most likely going with a house built around the 40s-50s.  CNS (or any other knowledgeable cat), it'll be renovated so is there any things to look for to see how quality of a job they did?

We expect some problems with an old home but are there general things to look out for?

Does it have a basement/is it finished?  I would check to see how many types of wires they have coming out of the breaker box.  I've seen many an "update" where they run new wire down from the outlets and use junction boxes to tie into old work.  Sometimes that's okay, sometimes it's uber lazy and people drop the ground wire or overload circuits.  I also hate crap loads of junctions and hidden boxes.  Plumbing, if it's pex find out how old it is as some of the early generations were crap.  Also look over the hvac for manufacture dates or install dates.  Those kinds of heavy things obviously have a shelf life and if you're looking at replacing a unit within 5 years of purchase it's something to consider (same for water heaters).
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on March 04, 2016, 12:30:40 PM
So switched directions completely and are most likely going with a house built around the 40s-50s.  CNS (or any other knowledgeable cat), it'll be renovated so is there any things to look for to see how quality of a job they did?

We expect some problems with an old home but are there general things to look out for?

Does it have a basement/is it finished?  I would check to see how many types of wires they have coming out of the breaker box.  I've seen many an "update" where they run new wire down from the outlets and use junction boxes to tie into old work.  Sometimes that's okay, sometimes it's uber lazy and people drop the ground wire or overload circuits.  I also hate crap loads of junctions and hidden boxes.  Plumbing, if it's pex find out how old it is as some of the early generations were crap.  Also look over the hvac for manufacture dates or install dates.  Those kinds of heavy things obviously have a shelf life and if you're looking at replacing a unit within 5 years of purchase it's something to consider (same for water heaters).

I'd say most homes in the neighborhood don't have a basement.  Maybe a small unfinished storage area with low ceiling or crawlspace at most.  I figured about the HVAC/Water heater/roof. 

What exactly am I looking at when looking for types of wires coming out of the breaker box, I know virtually nothing about anything electrical.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on March 04, 2016, 12:33:49 PM
Who renovated it?  Pro or DIY?  If it's DIY, everything.  If its a pro, look at the insulation rating on windows and stuff, but that is about it because they will know what to look for and will know how to cover stuff up too.

Look for grade draining water away from house outside. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on March 04, 2016, 12:40:30 PM
Who renovated it?  Pro or DIY?  If it's DIY, everything.  If its a pro, look at the insulation rating on windows and stuff, but that is about it because they will know what to look for and will know how to cover stuff up too.

Look for grade draining water away from house outside.

It'd be pro.  Thanks for the info, figured they'd be able to cover most things up.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: _33 on March 04, 2016, 12:43:01 PM
Goddamnit.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Home-Decorators-Collection-Strand-Woven-Warm-Espresso-3-8-in-x-5-1-8-in-Wide-x-36-in-Length-Click-Engineered-Bamboo-Flooring-25-625-sq-ft-case-AM1312E/205170976   :love:

That's very similar to what we have, ours is a little lighter.  We have a 50 lb dog who lives inside and slides and slips all over it and have never had it scratched.  The only scratches came from one of our kids pulling the other one across the floor in a carseat with a metal edge on the bottom.  And then obviously you would want to have pads on the legs of heavy furniture and stuff.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ednksu on March 04, 2016, 01:17:14 PM
So switched directions completely and are most likely going with a house built around the 40s-50s.  CNS (or any other knowledgeable cat), it'll be renovated so is there any things to look for to see how quality of a job they did?

We expect some problems with an old home but are there general things to look out for?

Does it have a basement/is it finished?  I would check to see how many types of wires they have coming out of the breaker box.  I've seen many an "update" where they run new wire down from the outlets and use junction boxes to tie into old work.  Sometimes that's okay, sometimes it's uber lazy and people drop the ground wire or overload circuits.  I also hate crap loads of junctions and hidden boxes.  Plumbing, if it's pex find out how old it is as some of the early generations were crap.  Also look over the hvac for manufacture dates or install dates.  Those kinds of heavy things obviously have a shelf life and if you're looking at replacing a unit within 5 years of purchase it's something to consider (same for water heaters).

I'd say most homes in the neighborhood don't have a basement.  Maybe a small unfinished storage area with low ceiling or crawlspace at most.  I figured about the HVAC/Water heater/roof. 

What exactly am I looking at when looking for types of wires coming out of the breaker box, I know virtually nothing about anything electrical.

So you shouldn't have to worry about knob and tube.  It's old school and can cause some issues getting your house insured because of a fire risk.
Knobs are the ceramic white things that are insulating stand offs and tubes are the wires.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mccurdyelectric.com%2Fimages%2FIMG_1018.jpg&hash=869c2a582c85a82923330e391e7608c661acf25a)

You could run into aluminum wire (some in my old house).  The problem with that is when people join copper to it or use the wrong outlets and switches.  It can create hotspots and an increased risk of fire.  A pro shouldn't have issues, but from my experience I've seen them miss stuff.
http://homeguides.sfgate.com/problems-aluminum-copper-wire-electricity-86313.html
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthegotchas.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F07%2Faluminum-wire-2.jpg&hash=97c6ef9de9817964d33fe691c056f1450f240690)

Relating to amps carried on your electrical, most homes have electrical wiring which can be 15 amp or 20 amp that relates to the size of the wire, and if done properly, the breaker at the panel.  14 gauge wire is sometimes white, 12 gauge is sometimes yellow, 10 gauge is orange. 
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Choosing-the-Proper-Gauge-of-Wiring-for-Your-Next-Project-/10000000177634232/g.html

Additionally new wire almost always has 3 wires, the added wire from older 2 wire style is the ground.  That is useful everywhere, but particularly in kitchens and bathrooms.  The thing I've seen in looking at houses to buy is when people run 3 wire from the outlet in a remodel to a junction box, drop the ground, and than you have 2 wire back to the panel.  You lose the safety of the ground at the outlet if this isn't done right. You can add a ground from the junction box and a pro SHOULD do this. 



Finally: Disclaimer, I am NOT a certified electrician. I've only done minor repair stuff to my home. Do not take my comments as gospel,  good advice, or good recommendations.  I've learned more from looking at what other people do and seeing how bad some houses have been "updated." I've had issues in my house that MULTIPLE electricians and inspectors have missed only to have a friend from Washburn Tech catch it and fix it.  If your tradesperson is rushing/doesn't seem to know what they are talking about/ or doesn't take the time to adequately answer your questions and address your concerns, find a new person to work with.  I hate dealing with electrical and would rather find someone to do it.  I'm sure KCFDcat has seen the results of bad electrical work (he is our resident firefighter right?).
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on March 04, 2016, 02:11:50 PM
I might just have a buddy of mine who is an electrician come with if we are serious about a place.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on March 04, 2016, 02:19:19 PM
I might just have a buddy of mine who is an electrician come with if we are serious about a place.

Which btw would probably do free work if something were to happen (minus fire obvy)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Kat Kid on March 07, 2016, 07:48:04 PM
well, still working on the buying a house thing, but the selling the house thing is going well so far.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: kslim on March 07, 2016, 07:51:15 PM
Close in a few weeks. Packing sucks.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Kat Kid on March 07, 2016, 07:56:23 PM
we listed our house and it sold the same day for list.  this is good or bad?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on March 07, 2016, 07:57:30 PM

we listed our house and it sold the same day for list.  this is good or bad?

Good!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on March 07, 2016, 07:57:51 PM
If it means living with your in laws, then it was bad
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Kat Kid on March 07, 2016, 08:00:15 PM
If it means living with your in laws, then it was bad

talk to my wife about that.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: SkinnyBenny on March 07, 2016, 08:26:15 PM
KK where are you moving? PM? Grats btw  :ksu:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on March 07, 2016, 08:28:41 PM
maybe raise the price and see if they still want to buy it until they don't want to buy it and then lower it to the last point where they wanted to buy it and then create a bidding war

source: me:  a++ veteran house hunters watcher
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on March 07, 2016, 08:31:01 PM
Def don't bend at all on inspection.  Repairs, cleaning, etc, tell them it's theirs to take care of.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Kat Kid on March 07, 2016, 09:40:39 PM
KK where are you moving? PM? Grats btw  :ksu:

just moving up the property ladder in MHK
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: michigancat on March 07, 2016, 09:51:45 PM
should have asked for more money
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: michigancat on March 07, 2016, 09:51:53 PM
Glad I could help
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on March 07, 2016, 09:53:01 PM
did i mention i'm currently watching house hunters*

*international
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: michigancat on March 07, 2016, 09:53:59 PM
did i mention i'm currently watching house hunters*

*international
I hear it's rigged.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on March 07, 2016, 09:59:04 PM
on saturday at approximately 11 AM we offered on a house that had been listed the previous day (Friday) at 5 PM. the house already had 2+ other offers. we offered $10k over the asking price. at 2 PM we were informed we did not get it because 2 other offers were higher than ours. the house was on the market for a total of 21 hours.

this is like the worst time in the history of time to try to buy a house.  :frown:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on March 07, 2016, 10:18:21 PM
did i mention i'm currently watching house hunters*

*international
I hear it's rigged.

people in the pocket of big-Egypt Sherrod try to tear house hunters down. i laugh everytime. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on March 07, 2016, 10:25:36 PM
I rented a house today
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: SdK on March 08, 2016, 01:09:41 AM
I rented a house today
What's the address?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Kat Kid on March 08, 2016, 09:39:26 AM
should have asked for more money

This was my initial thought, but if the process is really as easy as this seems I am prepared to leave some cash on the table.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on March 08, 2016, 09:42:05 AM
I rented a house today
What's the address?

It is not in Topeka  :Wha:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ChiComCat on March 08, 2016, 09:44:45 AM
Find a place yet?  I tried to sell Mrs. KK on becoming neighbors.  Mrs. Chicat is a willing babysitter most the time
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on March 08, 2016, 10:16:05 AM
I rented a house today
What's the address?

It is not in Topeka  :Wha:

troost area?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on March 08, 2016, 10:26:47 AM
I looked there but nope!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on March 08, 2016, 10:27:45 AM
Its def either OP or Olathe. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on March 08, 2016, 10:28:59 AM
I will never live in Johnson County (though it's literally a block away)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 08, 2016, 10:34:15 AM
#neverjoco
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on March 08, 2016, 10:36:33 AM
what's the yard situation like?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: AppleJack on March 08, 2016, 10:37:46 AM
I live in Johnson County, it's pretty great.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on March 08, 2016, 10:50:33 AM
what's the yard situation like?

I'll be mowing more often  :curse:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: SdK on March 08, 2016, 11:11:25 AM
I rented a house today
What's the address?

It is not in Topeka  :Wha:
That's ok.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on March 08, 2016, 11:38:33 AM
I will never live in Johnson County (though it's literally a block away)

WALDO!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: _33 on March 08, 2016, 11:43:24 AM
Where's Waldo?



p.s.  lollersnorts
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on March 08, 2016, 11:44:15 AM
 :ROFL:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Institutional Control on March 08, 2016, 11:50:42 AM
I hope I get invited to lib's house warming party.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 08, 2016, 11:56:02 AM
I hope I get invited to lib's house warming party.

I wonder what kind of snacks he'll have?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: meow meow on March 08, 2016, 11:58:18 AM
I hope I get invited to lib's house warming party.

I wonder what kind of snacks he'll have?

chips and salsa









(Not)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2016, 11:59:23 AM
should have asked for more money

This was my initial thought, but if the process is really as easy as this seems I am prepared to leave some cash on the table.

Would much more cash would you have accepted for another month on the market? Just curious.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Kat Kid on March 08, 2016, 12:23:15 PM
should have asked for more money

This was my initial thought, but if the process is really as easy as this seems I am prepared to leave some cash on the table.

Would much more cash would you have accepted for another month on the market? Just curious.

I could paint a rosy scenario and say we left $10,000 on the table (higher list, reuse to negotiate on the offer, refuse to negotiate on inspection items)

but in reality we got an offer at list on the first day.  Will take.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ksuwizard on March 08, 2016, 12:34:15 PM
on saturday at approximately 11 AM we offered on a house that had been listed the previous day (Friday) at 5 PM. the house already had 2+ other offers. we offered $10k over the asking price. at 2 PM we were informed we did not get it because 2 other offers were higher than ours. the house was on the market for a total of 21 hours.

this is like the worst time in the history of time to try to buy a house.  :frown:

It so is. I've had the same experience way way too many times over the last 9 months I've been looking. House goes on market, we look the next day, agent finds out an offer was accepted when trying to pull up the seller's disclosure so I can make an offer...it is INSANE. I finally got lucky and was able to get my offered accepted on a house in Waldo back in January. I was the 2nd offer and the house hadn't been on the market for more than 24 hours. My super awesome agent helped out tremendously with her patience and knowledge. Moving in later this month.

It is not a buyer's market at all. Best of luck and I'll be on the lookout for any in Waldo if that is where you are looking to move to.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Catchacold on March 08, 2016, 01:07:13 PM
we noticed a house on MLS as "withdrawn", our agent contacted them, and apparently the owner was waiting to complete a lot line adjustment before showing it. couple days later we find out they accepted a full price offer, sight unseen. wtf
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Institutional Control on March 08, 2016, 01:16:10 PM
We listed our house on a Friday at 5 p.m. and by Sunday at noon, we had 8 offers. 5 over asking, 1 for list and 2 for under list.  We ended up selling it for $15K over our asking price.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on March 08, 2016, 01:49:54 PM
just go in all cash, 15 day close.  source:  tarek and christina el moussa
seriously, this isn't that hard
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ChiComCat on March 08, 2016, 01:52:46 PM
I sold my condo in CO without listing.  Had a friend who was a realtor and knew someone that would be interested once she knew we were moving.  Same realtor did both ends, made a little money living there over 3 years once the realtor was paid a smaller commission.  #realestatebrag
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on March 08, 2016, 01:56:11 PM
I sold my condo in CO without listing.  Had a friend who was a realtor and knew someone that would be interested once she knew we were moving.  Same realtor did both ends, made a little money living there over 3 years once the realtor was paid a smaller commission.  #realestatebrag

smart man, tarek and christina handle both sides of their transactions themselves too.  source:  tarek and christina el moussa
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: chum1 on March 08, 2016, 01:59:50 PM
Re: buying a house Negotiating deals
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 08, 2016, 02:51:38 PM
Is ChiCat Donald Trump?  :sdeek:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: AbeFroman on March 08, 2016, 03:04:51 PM
Is ChiCat Donald Trump?  :sdeek:

I didn't see anything racist in the post, so unlikely
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on March 08, 2016, 03:09:01 PM
Man, I may need to sell my house, build another one, then sell it too.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ednksu on March 08, 2016, 03:43:15 PM
we listed our house and it sold the same day for list.  this is good or bad?
Kinda bad because it means you probably could have upped your price.  But you obviously listed at a price that met your needs and was competitively priced in your market.  Sometimes it better to move your unit and be done.

people said it already
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 08, 2016, 03:49:41 PM
Man, I may need to sell my house, build another one, then sell it too.

If you do this and utilize goEMAW.com in doing so I think you are morally obligated to donate a portion of the proceeds to fattyfest (IMO of course).
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: chum1 on March 08, 2016, 03:57:26 PM
Don't tell KK he could have made more money. There's just no way to know that. And if it's true, it's not necessarily true because of the amount of time the house was on the market. Luck is a big factor.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: XocolateThundarr on March 08, 2016, 04:51:09 PM
We are edging ever closer to listing our house.  Probably going to be sometime this summer.  I've been researching selling it myself and avoiding using a realtor.  Anyone had success doing this or have horror stories to tell about it?  My initial reading indicates it is no big deal once you identify a title company you are going to use.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on March 08, 2016, 05:31:15 PM
We are edging ever closer to listing our house.  Probably going to be sometime this summer.  I've been researching selling it myself and avoiding using a realtor.  Anyone had success doing this or have horror stories to tell about it?  My initial reading indicates it is no big deal once you identify a title company you are going to use.

do you know many real estate agents?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on March 08, 2016, 05:32:48 PM
We are edging ever closer to listing our house.  Probably going to be sometime this summer.  I've been researching selling it myself and avoiding using a realtor.  Anyone had success doing this or have horror stories to tell about it?  My initial reading indicates it is no big deal once you identify a title company you are going to use.

do you know many real estate agents?

i do and it can't be rocket science
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on March 08, 2016, 06:14:47 PM
Like a million of them do it as a side job like mowing lawns
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Missouriscribe on March 08, 2016, 08:09:54 PM
We are edging ever closer to listing our house.  Probably going to be sometime this summer.  I've been researching selling it myself and avoiding using a realtor.  Anyone had success doing this or have horror stories to tell about it?  My initial reading indicates it is no big deal once you identify a title company you are going to use.

do you know many real estate agents?

We sold our house that way. It enabled both us and the buyer to get a price we each were happy with. We definitely got less exposure, even with an mls listing through one of those websites. But that wasn't quite the same market going on now. The process was pretty easy.
i do and it can't be rocket science
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on March 08, 2016, 08:11:14 PM
See, scribe did it and he can't even work the quote function.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on March 08, 2016, 08:17:46 PM
hopefully realtors go the way of cab drivers sooner than later
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Missouriscribe on March 08, 2016, 08:20:28 PM
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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 09, 2016, 02:05:50 PM
We are edging ever closer to listing our house.  Probably going to be sometime this summer.  I've been researching selling it myself and avoiding using a realtor.  Anyone had success doing this or have horror stories to tell about it?  My initial reading indicates it is no big deal once you identify a title company you are going to use.

1.  Know that you are going to see buyers expecting a deal since they know you aren't paying an agent.
2.  If someone using an agent comes to you, know that they may expect you to pay their agents commission, and make sure to defend that if it comes up.
3.  Don't take it personally.  We made an offer on a FSBO that was reasonable (7% under asking) and the owner was so offended his wife said he wouldn't talk to us anymore.   House sat for months and finally sold less than our starting offer.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 09, 2016, 02:31:09 PM
We bought our house FSBO.  Mikey is spot on.  We were able to land on a price that was both below market but above what they'd get if they were paying a 6% commission (standard from what I understand).  I think it's a good way to go for a clean house.  Keep in mind the buyer will want to use their own title company.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 09, 2016, 03:22:35 PM
my wife is a realtor, so full disclosure. 

having seen the process, I can vouch for the value.  FSBO is a great approach for some.  particularly if you have a lot of time on your hands and you understand the process a bit better than the avg person.  For the avg person, however, there's a lot of value in turning the keys over to an agent and having them handle the entire process for you.  in a typical transaction you have to value your home (which involves a fair amount of research); photograph and market; work up a disclosure; negotiate offers/counteroffers; work up the final contract; conduct inspections; resolve post-inspection issues (which are very common), etc., etc., etc.  You can make it real simple by selling your house as-is.  But, you also won't attract any serious buyers unless your price is ridiculously low.   

don't get me wrong, you don't need an agent for some transactions.  But for others, a good agent can make a big difference.  for every case where FSBO works out great, there's an equal case of FSBO not working out and the seller brings in a realtor.  it is what it is. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on March 09, 2016, 03:33:02 PM
Hey ConstructionCats.. what's an approximate cost to build a standard detached 2 car garage that leads out to an alley (no driveway).
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 09, 2016, 03:47:15 PM
Hey ConstructionCats.. what's an approximate cost to build a standard detached 2 car garage that leads out to an alley (no driveway).

on a slab?  probably 12-14k on the cheap.    You can buy a kit for about 5k for the material.  Slab about $4/sf, labor probably $4-5/sf.   This would be run of the mill labor prices.   More if you hire a "real" contractor.     I didn't include footings as not sure where you live and that and excavation will vary a lot.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on March 09, 2016, 03:56:34 PM
Hey ConstructionCats.. what's an approximate cost to build a standard detached 2 car garage that leads out to an alley (no driveway).

on a slab?  probably 12-14k on the cheap.    You can buy a kit for about 5k for the material.  Slab about $4/sf, labor probably $4-5/sf.   This would be run of the mill labor prices.   More if you hire a "real" contractor.     I didn't include footings as not sure where you live and that and excavation will vary a lot.

Thanks.  Hoping to find a place already with a 2 but if not, that's less than I was expecting.  Figured it'd be around 20k.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 09, 2016, 04:02:21 PM
Here's the problem with realtors:  they don't have their client's best interests in mind.  They just want a deal, and they don't care if it's advantageous to the buyer or the seller, either way they're making their 6% / 3%.  They also rarely add that kind of value to the transaction. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on March 09, 2016, 04:10:45 PM
Here's the problem with realtors:  they don't have their client's best interests in mind.  They just want a deal, and they don't care if it's advantageous to the buyer or the seller, either way they're making their 6% / 3%.  They also rarely add that kind of value to the transaction.

Right before I sold my last house, I read an article that made me very paranoid about this.  It basically went through the math about how the realtor only loses a couple hundred bucks as you lose thousands.  It looked at the average ask vs sell price in several markets and inferred some accusations about the realtors in those markets.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 09, 2016, 04:14:13 PM
Hey ConstructionCats.. what's an approximate cost to build a standard detached 2 car garage that leads out to an alley (no driveway).

on a slab?  probably 12-14k on the cheap.    You can buy a kit for about 5k for the material.  Slab about $4/sf, labor probably $4-5/sf.   This would be run of the mill labor prices.   More if you hire a "real" contractor.    I didn't include footings as not sure where you live and that and excavation will vary a lot.

Thanks.  Hoping to find a place already with a 2 but if not, that's less than I was expecting.  Figured it'd be around 20k.

It will be by the time you pay for it all.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on March 09, 2016, 04:16:13 PM
You can make it real simple by selling your house as-is.  But, you also won't attract any serious buyers unless your price is ridiculously low. 

not sure if you've been following this thread, or the KC housing market, or if you know what the term "people are buying houses with cash, sight unseen" means, or if you know what the term "seller's market" means, but ok.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: XocolateThundarr on March 09, 2016, 05:11:17 PM
Here's the problem with realtors:  they don't have their client's best interests in mind.  They just want a deal, and they don't care if it's advantageous to the buyer or the seller, either way they're making their 6% / 3%.  They also rarely add that kind of value to the transaction.

Right before I sold my last house, I read an article that made me very paranoid about this.  It basically went through the math about how the realtor only loses a couple hundred bucks as you lose thousands.  It looked at the average ask vs sell price in several markets and inferred some accusations about the realtors in those markets.

From my experience, it seems like the realtor you are paying takes pictures, lists the house on MLS, and arranges showings.  Based on what I do for a living, I don't need someone to negotiate for me and I would absolutely be flexible on the price if I didn't have to pay a realtor's % to list it.  If it doesn't sell in the time frame we are looking at, we could always go to a realtor.  I would just prefer to keep as much cash in my pocket as possible.  Also, I think I would rather deal with potential buyers directly rather than through a middle man.  As was mentioned before, I too don't necessarily believe our realtor friends always have the sellers best interests in mind.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 09, 2016, 10:43:19 PM
Here's the problem with realtors:  they don't have their client's best interests in mind.  They just want a deal, and they don't care if it's advantageous to the buyer or the seller, either way they're making their 6% / 3%.  They also rarely add that kind of value to the transaction.

Right before I sold my last house, I read an article that made me very paranoid about this.  It basically went through the math about how the realtor only loses a couple hundred bucks as you lose thousands.  It looked at the average ask vs sell price in several markets and inferred some accusations about the realtors in those markets.

From my experience, it seems like the realtor you are paying takes pictures, lists the house on MLS, and arranges showings.  Based on what I do for a living, I don't need someone to negotiate for me and I would absolutely be flexible on the price if I didn't have to pay a realtor's % to list it.  If it doesn't sell in the time frame we are looking at, we could always go to a realtor.  I would just prefer to keep as much cash in my pocket as possible.  Also, I think I would rather deal with potential buyers directly rather than through a middle man.  As was mentioned before, I too don't necessarily believe our realtor friends always have the sellers best interests in mind.

I'm sure many realtors don't have their client's best interest in mind. But Real estate is a referral industry. In today's day in age a buyer/seller is going to know if they just got mumped on a deal. If u want that client to refer u business in the future, ul have their best interests in mind.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: XocolateThundarr on April 06, 2016, 02:08:23 PM
Just made an offer on a bigger house.  Will probably end up using the same realtor that we bought from before.  I was waffling on this, but he is the listing agent for the new house and I think he will be able to get more than what I was thinking out of ours.  I guess this puts me back on Team Fence regarding realtors.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: XocolateThundarr on April 07, 2016, 01:47:09 PM
Well....looks like we are doing this thing.   :ohno:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cire on April 07, 2016, 01:58:45 PM
seems like we are entering another giant housing bubble. houses in my neighborhood are crazy high right now and are gone in a day.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on April 07, 2016, 02:05:49 PM
Yea bubble is definitely forming. Stay safe out there folks.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on April 07, 2016, 02:54:15 PM
Update:  Bought a house.  Ended up being neither scenario talked about but thanks anyway CNS and others.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on April 07, 2016, 03:02:14 PM
How many garages?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on April 07, 2016, 03:06:15 PM
Zero as of right now.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on April 07, 2016, 03:11:40 PM
 :sdeek:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: IPA4Me on April 07, 2016, 03:24:28 PM
Oh hell no. I hope you have garage construction in the works.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on April 07, 2016, 03:32:45 PM
Oh hell no. I hope you have garage construction in the works.

Most likely soon.  We are more in the city than anticipated.  So it's a how big of a backyard do you want debate.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: nicname on April 07, 2016, 05:24:10 PM
I've always been really Brucey when it comes to my lawn, but I think it may be time for a change. I got a really steep slope wrapping around my corner lot. I wouldn't pay a kid to do it either. Too dangerous.

Mods ---- move to mowing threat please.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on April 08, 2016, 02:17:55 PM
Oh hell no. I hope you have garage construction in the works.

Most likely soon.  We are more in the city than anticipated.  So it's a how big of a backyard do you want debate.
Fyi I just had a 2 car garage bid out and it came to 38k.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on April 08, 2016, 02:23:43 PM
 :sdeek:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on April 08, 2016, 02:25:59 PM
That seems about 20k high at least
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on April 08, 2016, 02:33:37 PM
What's the $/SF on that?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: EMAWican on April 08, 2016, 02:34:40 PM
Detached or addition?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on April 08, 2016, 04:00:33 PM
We have concrete pull-ins right now so it's not like we are fighting for street parking.  Only downside is the winter, but both have auto-start and they are about to legalize doing that again soon.

I'm sure we will eventually add a garage but not in a hurry at all.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on April 08, 2016, 04:01:42 PM
Does your 38k bid have tons of windows/oversized or what?  Seems high from the GC i talked with.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on April 08, 2016, 04:33:02 PM
Detached or addition?
Detached.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on April 08, 2016, 04:36:35 PM
Does your 38k bid have tons of windows/oversized or what?  Seems high from the GC i talked with.
I had it include space for a wood/metal shop for me. Not a huge space. Also included a full height loft for storage/misc stuff, pouring a new driveway, James hardy siding, timberline roof... Pretty much top of the line everything.

If I can get the price down to 25k or so I'd pull the trigger tomorrow.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on April 08, 2016, 04:50:57 PM
Let's get a garagebuildpak together and get this son of a bitch done
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on April 09, 2016, 03:00:59 AM
you're gonna end up with tom hardy siding if you're lucky
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Skipper44 on April 09, 2016, 11:54:31 AM
Just don't do Ed Hardy, it will kill your resale
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Institutional Control on April 09, 2016, 12:19:05 PM
James Hardy plays 82 games for the Rockets, dates a Kardashian AND puts up siding? What a stud.


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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ednksu on April 09, 2016, 12:23:55 PM
Does your 38k bid have tons of windows/oversized or what?  Seems high from the GC i talked with.
I had it include space for a wood/metal shop for me. Not a huge space. Also included a full height loft for storage/misc stuff, pouring a new driveway, James hardie siding, timberline roof... Pretty much top of the line everything.

If I can get the price down to 25k or so I'd pull the trigger tomorrow.

I'll help, said the real Hardy
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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: XocolateThundarr on April 10, 2016, 10:56:43 PM
Let's get a garagebuildpak together and get this son of a bitch done

I call dibs on the flatwork.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2016, 10:58:15 PM
Let's get a garagebuildpak together and get this son of a bitch done

I call dibs on the flatwork.

i guess i'm on steel.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on April 10, 2016, 11:37:31 PM
fireproof?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on April 10, 2016, 11:49:22 PM
fireproof?

And put kcfd out of a job?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on April 11, 2016, 01:19:22 PM
Fireproofers need not apply.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on April 17, 2016, 11:37:08 PM
Construco/LandscaperKats..  Does adding a simple sliding gate to a fence increase the price significantly of said fence?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on April 18, 2016, 07:46:15 AM
Define significantly

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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 18, 2016, 10:17:07 AM
I'll help with the KCFDgarage if he has beer available.  I'm pretty good at falling off ladders with no recordable injuries.  Hopefully that is a useful skill.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 18, 2016, 01:27:34 PM
Construco/LandscaperKats..  Does adding a simple sliding gate to a fence increase the price significantly of said fence?

Chain link?   They can be expensive for sliding drive gates, hard to say overall without knowing the size of total fence, but you could easily expect it to cost $1000-2000 without operator.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on April 18, 2016, 03:17:23 PM
Not chain link.  Wooden.  And significant meaning would to be 1k+ more than just wrapping the fence all the way around without a gate that would be sized for a car to drive thru.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Panjandrum on April 19, 2016, 01:23:36 PM
I don't know where this goes, so I'll put it here...

Our furnace is 20 years old, and the AC unit is 9 years old.  We're just going to go ahead and replace them both because the furnace now has cracks in it, and I don't want anyone to die of carbon monoxide poisoning.

We have received one quote already, and I'm getting another today and one more tomorrow morning.  I'm looking at a 15/16 SEER AC unit with two-speeds and a two-speed Furnace with efficiency in the 95/96 range.  The first quote came in around 12k for that.  I talked to an engineering buddy of mine that does some HVAC stuff, and he thought that was really high. 

Does anyone know what I should realistically pay for something like this?

Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cire on April 19, 2016, 01:42:56 PM
I paid 5000 dollars for a water heater/AC and furnace 6 years ago.

THat was only the cost of the products which I'm sure have gone up.  Was not charged for installing (family Friend)

So that seems high.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 8manpick on April 19, 2016, 02:02:31 PM
I don't know where this goes, so I'll put it here...

Our furnace is 20 years old, and the AC unit is 9 years old.  We're just going to go ahead and replace them both because the furnace now has cracks in it, and I don't want anyone to die of carbon monoxide poisoning.

We have received one quote already, and I'm getting another today and one more tomorrow morning.  I'm looking at a 15/16 SEER AC unit with two-speeds and a two-speed Furnace with efficiency in the 95/96 range.  The first quote came in around 12k for that.  I talked to an engineering buddy of mine that does some HVAC stuff, and he thought that was really high. 

Does anyone know what I should realistically pay for something like this?

What system size? Are they doing ductwork or controls, or just replacing in the same place and tying in?

I would guess $5k installed is reasonable. A 3-5 ton unit retails in the $3-5k range (more brand dependent than size)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 19, 2016, 02:07:45 PM
move
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 19, 2016, 02:10:16 PM
I don't know where this goes, so I'll put it here...

Our furnace is 20 years old, and the AC unit is 9 years old.  We're just going to go ahead and replace them both because the furnace now has cracks in it, and I don't want anyone to die of carbon monoxide poisoning.

We have received one quote already, and I'm getting another today and one more tomorrow morning.  I'm looking at a 15/16 SEER AC unit with two-speeds and a two-speed Furnace with efficiency in the 95/96 range.  The first quote came in around 12k for that.  I talked to an engineering buddy of mine that does some HVAC stuff, and he thought that was really high. 

Does anyone know what I should realistically pay for something like this?

in 2013 my folks had a heat pump installed for around 9k.    Buit really need to know your tonnage to compare.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Panjandrum on April 19, 2016, 04:06:02 PM
5-ton system.

However, the second guy came in and said that they could probably save us money because the duct work and square footage above ground is more in the 4.0-4.5 ton range.  He thought he could save us money by adding more returns upstairs.

Long story short, he thought our AC unit was still in really good shape (It's a top of the line Lennox from circa 2006-2007) and may just suggest two-speed furnace.  Pair them both with a really nice Honeywell thermostat.

Then my wife, who is 100% sold on a tankless water heater, put the pitch in for that, and he said he'd give us a good deal on a Rennai for 20% off if we bought a furnace from them.

All in all, I think he's going to give us a top of the line furnace and tankless water heater for an all in price (parts, labor, duct work, new ventilation lines) for about $7500-$8000.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on April 19, 2016, 06:18:01 PM
Bob Hamilton?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: IPA4Me on April 19, 2016, 06:28:53 PM

$12K for two-stage AC and furnace of that size isn't crazy high. From a job costing standpoint, he is in the neighborhood of 35-40% gross margin on labor and materials. That's fair considering the cost of business these days. Honestly, I'd prefer to sell a job 45-50% gross when it's busy.  Sounds like the second guy is cutting you a pretty good deal.


From a technical viewpoint, I'm not a fan of "square footage" sizing. Contractor should be using software to calculate the required size of the equipment. Then, making equipment selection. Most square footage sizing results in grossly oversized equipment.


Disclaimer - I work in Big HVAC as a field service engineer. ;)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cire on April 19, 2016, 06:29:37 PM
5-ton system.

However, the second guy came in and said that they could probably save us money because the duct work and square footage above ground is more in the 4.0-4.5 ton range.  He thought he could save us money by adding more returns upstairs.

Long story short, he thought our AC unit was still in really good shape (It's a top of the line Lennox from circa 2006-2007) and may just suggest two-speed furnace.  Pair them both with a really nice Honeywell thermostat.

Then my wife, who is 100% sold on a tankless water heater, put the pitch in for that, and he said he'd give us a good deal on a Rennai for 20% off if we bought a furnace from them.

All in all, I think he's going to give us a top of the line furnace and tankless water heater for an all in price (parts, labor, duct work, new ventilation lines) for about $7500-$8000.

That sounds very reasonable
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on April 25, 2016, 10:35:36 AM
So what's the process for getting a driveway built.  More specifically the process for getting the curb cut (regulations, approval, etc) and do you need approval to make sure you aren't over any water lines/etc?  Or is this something a reputable company would handle?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 25, 2016, 10:38:13 AM
So what's the process for getting a driveway built.  More specifically the process for getting the curb cut (regulations, approval, etc) and do you need approval to make sure you aren't over any water lines/etc?  Or is this something a reputable company would handle?

We had a new driveway put in (including removing the curb bump) and they handled all of that. I think they did cover a sprinkler head though. (just a little under the edge of the sidewalk going from the driveway)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on April 25, 2016, 10:59:37 AM
They will take care of it
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: meow meow on April 25, 2016, 11:06:55 AM
I was just getting ready to say that this question is right in lib's wheelhouse.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on May 09, 2016, 05:00:58 PM
So what's the process for getting a driveway built.  More specifically the process for getting the curb cut (regulations, approval, etc) and do you need approval to make sure you aren't over any water lines/etc?  Or is this something a reputable company would handle?

We had a new driveway put in (including removing the curb bump) and they handled all of that. I think they did cover a sprinkler head though. (just a little under the edge of the sidewalk going from the driveway)

If you don't mind me asking, what did you put down for it?  is it standard sized two car?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 10, 2016, 10:28:26 AM
So what's the process for getting a driveway built.  More specifically the process for getting the curb cut (regulations, approval, etc) and do you need approval to make sure you aren't over any water lines/etc?  Or is this something a reputable company would handle?

getting a driveway built or re-paving an existing driveway? curb cut should be pretty straight forward- youll need a permit from the city because it's likely their RoW. should be around $500... they can also help with the water lines, etc. but in KC the general rule is if youre not digging lower than 18" you should be in the clear. i would still "call before you dig" to CYA.

if you need any more consulting i have a canadian friend who can likely help you.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on May 10, 2016, 10:32:12 AM
So what's the process for getting a driveway built.  More specifically the process for getting the curb cut (regulations, approval, etc) and do you need approval to make sure you aren't over any water lines/etc?  Or is this something a reputable company would handle?

getting a driveway built or re-paving an existing driveway? curb cut should be pretty straight forward- youll need a permit from the city because it's likely their RoW. should be around $500... they can also help with the water lines, etc. but in KC the general rule is if youre not digging lower than 18" you should be in the clear. i would still "call before you dig" to CYA.

if you need any more consulting i have a canadian friend who can likely help you.

Hard to visualize but there's old concrete that a single car could fit on that faces an alley.  We'd like to extend that another direction towards the main street to turn it into a two car driveway.

So it'd either have to be removal of current concrete and redone.  Or repaved on old and extended, not sure which would be done.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on May 10, 2016, 10:34:03 AM
And the old concrete is the width of a car basically that would need to be redone/removed.  The extension would only be about 15-20 feet.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on May 10, 2016, 10:53:04 AM
With concrete like that, you remove/replace, unless it is not showing movement/separation and you want to top with a sealant or asphaltic type material. 

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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on May 10, 2016, 11:11:23 AM
With concrete like that, you remove/replace, unless it is not showing movement/separation and you want to top with a sealant or asphaltic type material. 

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Yeah, figured that would be the case.  So what would be a general estimate for removal of a slab the size of a car and install of two car driveway running about 35 feet?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 10, 2016, 12:21:03 PM
where do you live, dub?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on May 10, 2016, 12:49:39 PM
Not sure about removal, but install should be around $6/sqft, though I have heard some as low as $4/sqft.

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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on May 10, 2016, 12:49:47 PM
Kc prices

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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on May 10, 2016, 12:58:50 PM
where do you live, dub?

Denver
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 10, 2016, 01:09:15 PM
where do you live, dub?

Denver

ah, yes, i wont be of much help. however, i would do the removal yourself. if you have no sensitive areas to worry about (like accidentally crushing the foundation of your house) go to home depot and rent a jack hammer for the day for like $100 and go to town. then pay a concrete contractor to come in and do it.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 8manpick on May 10, 2016, 01:20:47 PM
where do you live, dub?

Denver

ah, yes, i wont be of much help. however, i would do the removal yourself. if you have no sensitive areas to worry about (like accidentally crushing the foundation of your house) go to home depot and rent a jack hammer for the day for like $100 and go to town. then pay a concrete contractor to come in and do it.
If you are gainfully employed, you should pay someone to do that. Definitely avoid jackhammering out your driveway if possible.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on May 10, 2016, 01:30:51 PM
where do you live, dub?

Denver

ah, yes, i wont be of much help. however, i would do the removal yourself. if you have no sensitive areas to worry about (like accidentally crushing the foundation of your house) go to home depot and rent a jack hammer for the day for like $100 and go to town. then pay a concrete contractor to come in and do it.
If you are gainfully employed, you should pay someone to do that. Definitely avoid jackhammering out your driveway if possible.

Yeah this sounds better. I'm totally okay with paying someone for this.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 10, 2016, 01:32:35 PM
sure, might as well have them hang a few paintings on the wall and unclog the toilet while theyre there. why do that sort of stuff if you have $?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on May 10, 2016, 01:52:55 PM
Even construction dudes would tell you to go eff yourself if you wanted them to jackhammer a driveway by hand. That's what they make loaders and attachments for.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 10, 2016, 02:31:08 PM
lazy millenial alert
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2016, 02:45:59 PM
jackhammering a driveway sounds like a lot of fun. def wear a tank top
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on May 10, 2016, 02:49:25 PM
these red sox fan dudes made the classic mistakes of 1) being too old and 2) not wearing tanks while j-hammering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_MZIyjeHkg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_MZIyjeHkg)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2016, 02:57:47 PM
didn't know they made electric jackhammers, that work looks like crap. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on May 10, 2016, 02:59:40 PM
Electric ones weigh like 10x as much as air and they suck taints
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on May 10, 2016, 03:11:23 PM
I would much rather pay someone for demo and haul off and do the concrete myself than the other way around.  Concrete demo is a huge pain in the ass if you don't have the right equipment (like the kind you ride on, not hold onto).

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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: XocolateThundarr on May 10, 2016, 03:42:02 PM
Electric ones weigh like 10x as much as air and they suck taints

This is correct.  If I was doing it, I would show up with a mini-ex with a thumb and rip that crap out.  eff jackhammering by hand.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 10, 2016, 03:45:35 PM
I bet if you fly nardfrog up there he can smash that driveway into pieces in just a few hours. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on May 10, 2016, 03:58:35 PM
i think ex mrs nardfrog is actually who you need for demo
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 10, 2016, 04:10:44 PM
i would jackhammer it by hand but i guess im also super ripped and muscley so i can understand why everyone else wants to use the machines
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on May 10, 2016, 04:26:29 PM
i think ex mrs nardfrog is actually who you need for demo

I have seen a guy on meth jackhammering before and it was scary as eff  :sdeek:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: XocolateThundarr on May 10, 2016, 04:39:11 PM
i would jackhammer it by hand but i guess im also super ripped and muscley so i can understand why everyone else wants to use the machines

Machines have cupholders that keep your beer from spilling.  Try that with a jackhammer.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 10, 2016, 04:52:15 PM
i would jackhammer it by hand but i guess im also super ripped and muscley so i can understand why everyone else wants to use the machines

Machines have cupholders that keep your beer from spilling.  Try that with a jackhammer.

heavy machinery and beer? nice try, OSHA, but the only un-safe practices on my job sites are my biceps. *kisses 'ceps*
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on May 10, 2016, 05:22:08 PM
i would jackhammer it by hand but i guess im also super ripped and muscley so i can understand why everyone else wants to use the machines

Machines have cupholders that keep your beer from spilling.  Try that with a jackhammer.

heavy machinery and beer? nice try, OSHA, but the only un-safe practices on my job sites are my biceps. *kisses 'ceps*

Don't make me laugh, pencil pusher  :lol:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: TownieCat on May 21, 2016, 09:40:43 AM
There needs to be a faster, simpler way to do this.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on May 21, 2016, 09:44:41 AM
There needs to be a faster, simpler way to do this.

Rocket Mortgage bro
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: TownieCat on May 21, 2016, 09:52:35 AM
There needs to be a faster, simpler way to do this.

Rocket Mortgage bro
Getting pre-approved for a mortgage was the easy part. The seller has been dragging his feet.

That, or I just have no patience. Probably the latter.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on May 21, 2016, 10:06:13 AM
Anyone have synthetic grass?  Like it?  We are debating sodding/seeding/synthetic right now.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on May 21, 2016, 10:31:16 AM
My mom almost bought a house with turf but then she bought a different one instead (not cause of the turf, she liked that part)

That's all I have, dub
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on May 21, 2016, 10:38:37 AM
I've never seen it before
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on May 21, 2016, 11:09:46 AM
Anyone have synthetic grass?  Like it?  We are debating sodding/seeding/synthetic right now.
My parents  have a synthetic putting green in the backyard. It's pretty sweet. Dunno if I'd want my entire yard out of that stuff though.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: catastrophe on May 21, 2016, 11:11:29 AM
Depending on how your house fits in the neighborhood, my biggest concern would be having a bright green lawn during winter when everyone else's looks normal.

Would look pretty tacky, IMO.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on May 21, 2016, 11:21:17 AM
Yeah, the new stuff looks/feels like real grass.  Just more costly and didn't know about permeability (dogs) and wear and tear/replacing etc.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newimagesyntheticturf.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F03%2Ffake-grass-lawn-platinum.jpg&hash=d92175382188eb18efef28626b035f1fa5014344)


That being said, think we are going to sod.  Not sure if I have the patience for seeding.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on May 21, 2016, 11:23:54 AM
I wouldn't worry about dogs. Most of the dog daycare places have turf because it doesn't wear down to mud
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on May 21, 2016, 12:16:09 PM
Hardscape it Dub, you don't have kids right?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on May 21, 2016, 01:08:53 PM
or if you do, maybe they'll want a skate park
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: sys on May 21, 2016, 02:08:32 PM
def. hardscape over fake grass.  good lord.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Bloodfart on May 21, 2016, 05:11:49 PM
We're paying off the motherfuckin house mortgage next month. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on May 21, 2016, 05:28:00 PM
When blood fart leaves your ass he goin leave wit half.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: slobber on May 22, 2016, 07:32:28 AM
We're paying off the motherfuckin house mortgage next month.
Throwing a party? Man, I can't wait to get that done. We are on a 15 with 11 to go. I am not going to pay it off faster because kids and school are expensive, but still. Eleven years is nothing!! I will throw a big ass party when we are done.

Side note, we are considering moving (locally) to get closer to the kids' schools. If we do, it may screw up this plan to be done in 11 years because we may buy more house and I don't know if we can swing a 10 year mortgage on a 30-40% more expense house (houses in that area have amaze ballz HVAC set-ups) and still save for college and pay for Catholic school and stuff. It's a real conundrum.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Bloodfart on May 22, 2016, 09:47:02 PM
We're paying off the motherfuckin house mortgage next month.
Throwing a party? Man, I can't wait to get that done. We are on a 15 with 11 to go. I am not going to pay it off faster because kids and school are expensive, but still. Eleven years is nothing!! I will throw a big ass party when we are done.

Side note, we are considering moving (locally) to get closer to the kids' schools. If we do, it may screw up this plan to be done in 11 years because we may buy more house and I don't know if we can swing a 10 year mortgage on a 30-40% more expense house (houses in that area have amaze ballz HVAC set-ups) and still save for college and pay for Catholic school and stuff. It's a real conundrum.

This is our first house and it was a fixer-upper.  We're far from being done with loans especially when I buy out dad's share of the farm ground.  The plan now is to find a place outside of town but close to K-96 between Hutchinson and Wichita.  I'm not thrilled about building but I think that's what we'll have to do. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: nicname on May 22, 2016, 09:55:16 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-qtZHQq0Qhp8%2FUf1cE2ZcewI%2FAAAAAAAAEFs%2FFP9GXhayO5M%2Fs1600%2FScreen%2BShot%2B2013-08-03%2Bat%2B2.03.40%2BPM%2Bsexy%2Bgreg%2Bbrady%2Bbunch.png&hash=f90196cddf75db555ba2f1bab5781880eae00b56)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: michigancat on May 22, 2016, 10:27:44 PM
what % did everyone put down on their last house?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: kim carnes on May 22, 2016, 11:20:54 PM
20 bro
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: HerrSonntag on May 23, 2016, 07:45:50 AM
what % did everyone put down on their last house?
3.5%, FHA loaned that business up versus paying more rent money while i saved up.  Paid 1.5x payments until i got to 20% to get rid of the mortgage insurance.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 23, 2016, 09:05:34 AM
I own half a duplex as a rental property.  The other half got foreclosed on.  Which sucks.  But now I think I have to buy it on the cheap. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: slobber on May 23, 2016, 09:20:02 AM
what % did everyone put down on their last house?
About 22%. Then when we refinanced 4 years ago to the 15 year we paid it down by another 10% to make the payments much more manageable. We own about 60% now, which will be an amazing down payment if we do move!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on May 23, 2016, 09:24:18 AM
20
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: catastrophe on May 23, 2016, 09:27:57 AM
Slightly over 20
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on May 23, 2016, 10:03:01 AM
what % did everyone put down on their last house?
About 25%. Kcfd wife and I had a big argument last night about how long we're going to stay in this house. I'm all for staying here and paying off the mortgage. She wants to move!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Skipper44 on May 23, 2016, 10:16:40 AM
what % did everyone put down on their last house?
About 25%. Kcfd wife and I had a big argument last night about how long we're going to stay in this house. I'm all for staying here and paying off the mortgage. She wants to move!
that discussion is a waste of time and energy until you have at least 1 lil'KCFDcat

30ish on first house, 40ish on current
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on May 23, 2016, 10:18:23 AM
what % did everyone put down on their last house?
About 25%. Kcfd wife and I had a big argument last night about how long we're going to stay in this house. I'm all for staying here and paying off the mortgage. She wants to move!
that discussion is a waste of time and energy until you have at least 1 lil'KCFDcat

30ish on first house, 40ish on current
Very true, although we bought this house with the intention of having a couple of lilkcfd's.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: sys on May 23, 2016, 10:26:47 AM
what % did everyone put down on their last house?

10%.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 23, 2016, 10:29:22 AM
what % did everyone put down on their last house?

10%.

Same.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 23, 2016, 10:47:15 AM
I think we only put like 4% down but then we paid extra every month and got the equity up to 20% pretty quickly to get rid of the PMA. And then when we refinanced a few years ago, we went with a 15 year mortgage when we had like 20 years left on the original or something like that.
Title: buying a house
Post by: slobber on May 23, 2016, 11:29:23 AM
This got me to thinking about how much we put down on all of the houses we have bought over the years. In order:
7%
15%
30%
20%
22%


Gonna win 'em all! (using Tapatalk)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: puniraptor on May 24, 2016, 09:08:56 AM
what % did everyone put down on their last house?

10%.
Same
what % did everyone put down on their last house?

10%.

Same.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: puniraptor on May 24, 2016, 09:09:10 AM
Same
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on May 24, 2016, 09:10:41 AM
:D
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: TownieCat on May 24, 2016, 09:22:32 AM
Putting down 5%. Probably could've done 10%, but didn't want to exhaust that much of my savings. Will be making extra payments to get to 20% as quickly as possible so the PMI goes away, hopefully within the first 3 years.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on May 24, 2016, 09:24:29 AM
Good job leveraging the crap out of the banks townie, this is a smart move
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on June 17, 2016, 08:58:49 PM
Kitchen Island.... Custom build thru contractor or buy already built?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on June 17, 2016, 09:47:01 PM
Kitchen Island.... Custom build thru contractor or buy already built?
Have it built.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Bloodfart on July 30, 2016, 06:06:31 PM
We're paying off the motherfuckin house mortgage next month.

Feels good.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on July 30, 2016, 09:04:26 PM
You are way too young to have a paid for house. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on July 30, 2016, 10:45:11 PM
mrs bloodfart, tho
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: puniraptor on July 30, 2016, 10:56:53 PM
Farm subsidies.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on July 30, 2016, 11:19:40 PM
the paid off mortgage is the new status symbol of choice
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on July 31, 2016, 07:10:10 AM
Fart subsidies
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on July 31, 2016, 10:48:47 AM
Man, I wish I had a mrs bloodfart
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: TownieCat on August 01, 2016, 08:56:59 AM
'grats, Bloodfart!

Today I made my first payment. Only 359* to go.  :blindfold:



*Hopefully it is much fewer than that.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on August 01, 2016, 11:29:31 AM
Hey FenceCats.. what's a range for typical price/linear ft of fence (of standard wooden fencing.. 6ft for half and 4 ft for half.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 01, 2016, 11:33:05 AM
Hey FenceCats.. what's a range for typical price/linear ft of fence (of standard wooden fencing.. 6ft for half and 4 ft for half.

~$30 per foot for 6' tall wooden fence (installed).
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on September 13, 2016, 09:06:15 PM
did i mention i'm currently watching house hunters*

*international
I hear it's rigged.

people in the pocket of big-Egypt Sherrod try to tear house hunters down. i laugh everytime. 

i've noticed that every time that house hunters shows an episode filmed in atlanta, it features an african american couple
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on September 14, 2016, 07:26:27 AM
the overland park house hunters episode was pretty lol. let's look at the same 3 brand new cracker jack 3,500 sq ft houses built shittily by probably the same builder. also your neighborhood is going to have 5 different houses total.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Skipper44 on September 14, 2016, 07:44:42 AM
the overland park house hunters episode was pretty lol. let's look at the same 3 brand new cracker jack 3,500 sq ft houses built shittily by probably the same builder. also your neighborhood is going to have 5 different houses total.
Was it Kal & Kathy Kstate or Josh & Jen Jayhawks grabbing their 1/4 acre of paradise?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: HerrSonntag on September 14, 2016, 07:50:23 AM
the overland park house hunters episode was pretty lol. let's look at the same 3 brand new cracker jack 3,500 sq ft houses built shittily by probably the same builder. also your neighborhood city suburban metro-area is going to have 5 different houses total.
fyp
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on September 14, 2016, 09:15:15 AM
The near entirety of overland park housing follows this rule:  OP housing = starter house quality x however many SF you need to feel like you've made it in life + hardwood flooring and granite counter tops. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: AppleJack on September 14, 2016, 09:27:15 AM
I live in Overland Park  :frown:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on September 14, 2016, 09:34:43 AM
I live in Overland Park  :frown:

I love OP. I'm not hating AJ. How are you today?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on September 14, 2016, 09:35:28 AM
"near entirety", Friend. I left an AJ loop hole.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: AppleJack on September 14, 2016, 09:40:21 AM
I live in Overland Park  :frown:

I love OP. I'm not hating AJ. How are you today?

I'm well, how are you?

Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on September 14, 2016, 09:42:13 AM
I live in Overland Park  :frown:

I love OP. I'm not hating AJ. How are you today?

I'm well, how are you?

good, good. kind of cold.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: AppleJack on September 14, 2016, 09:43:05 AM
"near entirety", Friend. I left an AJ loop hole.

yes. In fact the reason I bought the mansion I did is because the entire neighborhood is custom. My parents hood tho, their house is duplicated like 6 or 7 times. Just the house plan is flipped. is gross.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on September 14, 2016, 01:06:21 PM
the overland park house hunters episode was pretty lol. let's look at the same 3 brand new cracker jack 3,500 sq ft houses built shittily by probably the same builder. also your neighborhood is going to have 5 different houses total.

they've had several filmed in/around KC.  the OP one that was on this week was pretty sad though, as you described.  2 of the houses were in OP, i think the 3rd was around blue hills country club.

i thought the cerner guy's wife was smoking hot
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 14, 2016, 01:09:29 PM
I'm friends with one of the KC couples.  They told me how it's all rigged.  They don't film until after they've already bought a house.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on September 14, 2016, 01:09:36 PM
i can't remember the name of the local woman who rehabs houses and got her own HGTV show, but anyway the first house she did for the show at 28th & charlotte has just been listed for ~$400k

edit: her name is tamara day and it's called Little Money Mansions (LOL) and it's on DIY network (?) and not HGTV
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on September 14, 2016, 01:22:51 PM
lollerskates at DIY network.  should have just called it the Little Money Network.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dub on September 14, 2016, 01:39:44 PM
I'm friends with one of the KC couples.  They told me how it's all rigged.  They don't film until after they've already bought a house.

This is true.  And they make the couples walk through each room like 20 times with different reactions and comments and then string together the show.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 14, 2016, 02:01:52 PM
I'm friends with one of the KC couples.  They told me how it's all rigged.  They don't film until after they've already bought a house.

This is true.  And they make the couples walk through each room like 20 times with different reactions and comments and then string together the show.

Also they ply them with alcohol to get them to say crazy crap (which sometimes works).
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on September 14, 2016, 02:16:08 PM
diy network is 10x better than hgtv
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on September 14, 2016, 02:17:22 PM
diy network is 10x better than hgtv
:sdeek:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on September 14, 2016, 02:22:11 PM
I'm friends with one of the KC couples.  They told me how it's all rigged.  They don't film until after they've already bought a house.

This is true.  And they make the couples walk through each room like 20 times with different reactions and comments and then string together the show.

Also they ply them with alcohol to get them to say crazy crap (which sometimes works).

so what you detectives have uncovered is that house hunters is exactly like every other reality based television show?
i'm going to award you both merit badges for the work you've done here
 :jerk:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: AppleJack on September 14, 2016, 02:54:05 PM
diy network is 10x better than hgtv

this is 100% accurate
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on September 14, 2016, 07:20:37 PM
I'm friends with one of the KC couples.  They told me how it's all rigged.  They don't film until after they've already bought a house.

This is true.  And they make the couples walk through each room like 20 times with different reactions and comments and then string together the show.
My buddy filmed for HH international a few months ago. They've been in the house for almost two years. Made them have serious buyers (renters?)  remorse though. Like, they loved one of the houses they looked at that wasn't theirs, but, too late!

Anyways, you guys are right, it's rigged.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on September 15, 2016, 12:20:20 AM
I'm friends with one of the KC couples.  They told me how it's all rigged.  They don't film until after they've already bought a house.

This is true.  And they make the couples walk through each room like 20 times with different reactions and comments and then string together the show.

how do you conspiracy theorists suggest this all works?

1) random couple buys a house
2) house hunters finds them by luck
3) house hunters asks them their "must haves"
4) house hunters finds 2 houses + 1 purchased home; none of which meets their must have lists
5) house hunters finds random realtor who walks couple through 3 houses

that it?
ever heard of house hunters "where are they now" ? or how about when the couple selects the house and then they do a flash forward a month or so and shows the couple in their new home?

lol sorry for blowing holes in your conspiracy machine
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on September 15, 2016, 12:23:00 AM
'lams is enraged that he didn't consider this possibility first
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on September 15, 2016, 12:42:10 AM
just watched an episode filmed in phoenix
these people weren't living in the house and then boom the producers flashed forward a month
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: puniraptor on September 15, 2016, 01:52:33 AM
someone said pry to me last week for the first time but they used it as short for "priority"

hy-pry.

hi-pri?

anyway lol what a dork
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 15, 2016, 08:56:34 AM
The house that is empty of furniture is always they house they pick because it's the house they bought.  They tour it first, then scramble like crazy to get it furnished while they are touring the other two and then they "flash forward" to after all their crap is moved in. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KITNfury on September 15, 2016, 09:30:05 AM
Do the people fake looking for a house get paid or something?  Or do they go through all the bullshit just to be on TV?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on September 15, 2016, 09:42:16 AM
clams is going to ban everyone who posted here in the last 48hrs
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on September 15, 2016, 09:46:53 AM
And he should, what a group of browns
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on September 15, 2016, 09:47:29 AM
something went very wrong along the way
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 15, 2016, 09:49:13 AM
I'll take refuge in an embassy if I must. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on September 15, 2016, 01:34:42 PM
The house that is empty of furniture is always they house they pick because it's the house they bought.  They tour it first, then scramble like crazy to get it furnished while they are touring the other two and then they "flash forward" to after all their crap is moved in. 

lulz, you don't have a freaking clue how house hunters works.  quit embarassing yourself, please.


Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 15, 2016, 01:40:15 PM
School's in sesh, might as well get your teach on.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 15, 2016, 01:52:28 PM
sounds like clams is squarely in the back pocket of Big House Hunters
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on September 15, 2016, 01:54:39 PM
I hate that most of the international ones are renting. I want to know what that thing costs in USD.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on September 15, 2016, 02:03:04 PM
ya i'd put the hhi rent to buy ratio at like 90%-10%

most hhi buyers seem to be in central america and mexico, hhi euros rent more

the hhi australian ones are usually the funniest.  ever-y-thing about aussies is funny to me.


Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 03, 2016, 11:39:38 AM
Bump*


*condo
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 03, 2016, 11:46:24 AM
If anyone knows someone in the market for a 2-3* bedroom, 2 bath house in west Wichita, PM me.



*Technically it's not a 3rd bedroom since it is in the basement with no egress.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on October 03, 2016, 11:52:13 AM
You just did the kitchen tho
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 03, 2016, 11:52:51 AM
You just did the kitchen tho

my exact thought as well
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on October 03, 2016, 11:54:31 AM
WWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 03, 2016, 12:36:54 PM
You just did the kitchen tho

Yeah I know, but that makes the house more sellable. When you are telling your friends about it make sure to mention the upgraded kitchen.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on October 03, 2016, 12:53:57 PM
I don't have friends in Wichita
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 03, 2016, 12:59:50 PM
I don't have friends in Wichita

Maybe you have some friends who want to move to Wichita....
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on October 03, 2016, 01:00:41 PM
My friends are smarter than that
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 03, 2016, 01:01:32 PM
My friends are smarter than that

 :lol:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: puniraptor on October 03, 2016, 03:32:31 PM
Moving to OP or Lenexa?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 03, 2016, 03:50:37 PM
This is probably not going to happen so don't get too excited yet.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on October 03, 2016, 05:50:42 PM
Drive around Wichita until you see one of those signs that says "we buy houses for cash" and call the phone number.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 04, 2016, 09:16:46 AM
Drive around Wichita until you see one of those signs that says "we buy houses for cash" and call the phone number.
It's not a house, its a condo.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 04, 2016, 09:19:18 AM
interesting if accurate
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 04, 2016, 09:24:01 AM
oh, they are buying a condo.. why would you want to do that?
Are you guys 80?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on October 04, 2016, 09:24:30 AM
Yes, they are
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 09:26:56 AM
oh, they are buying a condo.. why would you want to do that?
Are you guys 80?

No lawn, no annoying neighbor kids in your yard and driveway, no maintenance, unlimited covered parking
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 04, 2016, 09:38:39 AM
 :cyclist:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: TheHamburglar on October 04, 2016, 09:40:24 AM
Do you have particular condos you're looking at?  Staying in Wichita?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 09:40:32 AM
:cyclist:

Walking distance to biking/running trails and bars, in-house gym, front lawn concerts in the summer
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 04, 2016, 09:46:44 AM
Have fun at the retirement home  :lol:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 04, 2016, 10:27:48 AM
Do you have particular condos you're looking at?  Staying in Wichita?
The Waterwalk
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 10:41:44 AM
Please list cons to living in a condo here, in case there is something we have not accounted for in our decision.

Already on the list:

No yard (actually a pro, we never use our yard now)
Going up elevators (on level, at front door parking)
Close neighbors (should be ok since there are no kids)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on October 04, 2016, 10:42:19 AM
that is walking distance to the children's museum which received a surprising 4 out of 5 red foam balls in the sd children museum ratings.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 04, 2016, 10:43:10 AM
- hearing other people's music and banging and whatever else was annoying when you had roommates in college
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on October 04, 2016, 10:44:06 AM
smells
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 10:44:57 AM
that is walking distance to the children's museum which received a surprising 4 out of 5 red foam balls in the sd children museum ratings.

Yes, like a 2 minute walk but why would we ever want to go to a Children's Museum? Or are you listing this as a con?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 04, 2016, 10:48:55 AM
- smoking meats all the time will make people hate you, if it's even allowed
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 04, 2016, 10:50:20 AM
what in the world
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 04, 2016, 10:51:41 AM
what I'm saying is abort mission and pay the yard guy extra to beat the crap out of the neighbor kids every now and then
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on October 04, 2016, 10:53:02 AM
Maintenance fees that are levied to make up for poor management
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 10:54:22 AM
- smoking meats all the time will make people hate you, if it's even allowed

hmmmmmm. They said we can have a smoker and grill and hot tub.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 10:55:47 AM
Maintenance fees that are levied to make up for poor management

What? We really haven't talked to them about maintenance fees except the yearly HOA (or whatever you call it). Still need to get clarification on how that works. Are you saying that they will assess maintenance fees on top of that?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Skipper44 on October 04, 2016, 10:58:03 AM
Just become HOA Prez and you can make the rules
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 04, 2016, 11:00:19 AM
Condos don't appreciate at the rate houses do, but the interest rates are the same. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 11:01:13 AM
Just become HOA Prez and you can make the rules

Good idea.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 04, 2016, 11:09:01 AM
- hearing other people's music and banging and whatever else was annoying when you had roommates in college
Not an issue that i can see (hear actually). Very thick concrete walls.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 04, 2016, 11:10:25 AM
- smoking meats all the time will make people hate you, if it's even allowed
Allowed. People will love this which is a con because they will feel the need to speak with me about how good it always smells should be have a mail box encounter.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 04, 2016, 11:11:41 AM
Just become HOA Prez and you can make the rules

Good idea.
That's all you. I'm never going to one god damn meeting.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 11:12:09 AM
smells

Maybe we should check out the neighbors to see if they seem likely to cook any particularly smelly foods. (Might be racist to do that though.)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 11:12:52 AM
Just become HOA Prez and you can make the rules

Good idea.
That's all you. I'm never going to one god damn meeting.

Well yeah, obv.

Except maybe the meeting where they are complaining about your smoking meats.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 04, 2016, 11:13:22 AM
We're on the second floor (first floor of non offices) and smells go up. Should not be an issue.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 04, 2016, 11:14:04 AM
Strict "No Firearms" policy for residents?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 04, 2016, 11:14:31 AM
Strict "No Firearms" policy for residents?
Don't ask don't tell but highly doubt it.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 04, 2016, 11:16:25 AM
people will hate the crap out you when they can't open their windows on a saturday because you've got the smoker going (i would too and i love to smoke meats)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 04, 2016, 11:17:07 AM
Should also mention that the deck on this thing is about 40' x 30'. We will be able to pak our face off on this thing at Riverfest without having to intermingle with the unwashed masses below us. #WichitaThings
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 04, 2016, 11:18:16 AM
people will hate the crap out you when they can't open their windows on a saturday because you've got the smoker going (i would too and i love to smoke meats)
Pellet smokers don't actually put off that much "smoke" smell. It is mostly the smell of delicious cooking meat. This also falls under not my rough ridin' problem.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 04, 2016, 11:19:18 AM
how many other "not my rough ridin' problem" tenants are there at this place?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 11:32:49 AM
Maybe I should ask for their HOA constitution or bylaws or whatever.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on October 04, 2016, 11:33:00 AM
Maintenance fees that are levied to make up for poor management

What? We really haven't talked to them about maintenance fees except the yearly HOA (or whatever you call it). Still need to get clarification on how that works. Are you saying that they will assess maintenance fees on top of that?

My aunts condo building had a bunch of deferred maintenance that finally became a serious problem and all the tenants were assessed a levee of sorts to pay for the repairs to the building.  I believe the dollar amount was in the tens of thousands per unit. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on October 04, 2016, 11:34:21 AM
I think the actual term is special assessment
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 04, 2016, 11:38:19 AM
Maintenance fees that are levied to make up for poor management

What? We really haven't talked to them about maintenance fees except the yearly HOA (or whatever you call it). Still need to get clarification on how that works. Are you saying that they will assess maintenance fees on top of that?

My aunts condo building had a bunch of deferred maintenance that finally became a serious problem and all the tenants were assessed a levee of sorts to pay for the repairs to the building.  I believe the dollar amount was in the tens of thousands per unit. 
JohnnyWichita could help me here but this place already got their faces sued off on a bunch of crap that needed fixed after a few years and the "issues" of construction had shaken out. They tried to put the costs back on the condo owners and they weren't having it. Apparently the Condo owners here "wear the pants" in the relationship.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 04, 2016, 11:40:13 AM
how many other "not my rough ridin' problem" tenants are there at this place?
You are greatly over estimating how much I use my smoker. Maybe 2 -3 time a month in the summer and maybe 1/month on the winter. Grilling on the other hand is like ever-y-day.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on October 04, 2016, 11:44:01 AM
You're moving to an apartment because you don't want to take care of a yard that you already don't take care of?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on October 04, 2016, 11:46:53 AM
Also a 30'x40' deck is like bigger than my house I think  :sdeek:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 11:48:57 AM
The balcony/deck is larger than our current living room. Also downtown.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 04, 2016, 11:51:20 AM
re-selling that thing is going to be a nightmare
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: _33 on October 04, 2016, 11:52:00 AM
You're moving to a condo to avoid annoying neighbors? That's like moving to Lawrence to avoid sexual assault.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 04, 2016, 11:52:16 AM
i was just using that as an example for me personally of a lifestyle change i'd have to make in order to live in a condo, there are many others
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 04, 2016, 11:57:26 AM
I am looking forward to the future gooch/mrs gooch threads bitching about the condo assoc. meetings and the fees going up every year.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on October 04, 2016, 11:58:11 AM
But praising all their wonderful neighbors  :lol:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on October 04, 2016, 12:00:00 PM
you want to come home to THIS everyday?   :sdeek:

(https://thumbs.trulia-cdn.com/pictures/thumbs_6/ps.89/8/a/5/7/picture-uh=d969fedf47e1d52891e57d62462f2375-ps=8a576cee2728b13cbe7922c35626ea-515-S-Main-St-309-Wichita-KS-67202.jpg)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on October 04, 2016, 12:02:00 PM
Quote
our condo is the one right above where it says "office space for lease"
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on October 04, 2016, 12:06:07 PM
Con:  If they have, or ever get, a really good restaurant or bar on the first floor, you will basically go broke in a couple years(I would, anyway).

Con:  If they have, or ever get, a really shitty restaurant or bar on the first floor, you have to smell that bullshit all day 'er' day.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 12:14:40 PM
You're moving to a condo to avoid annoying neighbors? That's like moving to Lawrence to avoid sexual assault.

annoying children neighbors
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 12:20:38 PM
Con:  If they have, or ever get, a really good restaurant or bar on the first floor, you will basically go broke in a couple years(I would, anyway).

Con:  If they have, or ever get, a really shitty restaurant or bar on the first floor, you have to smell that bullshit all day 'er' day.

They don't have any restaurants right now so it would be at least a couple of years probably before that would even ever happen....But they would probably be right below us if they ever did open one.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on October 04, 2016, 12:22:03 PM
Roll of the dice   :ohno:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 12:23:45 PM
But then the people going to the restaurant would smell Gooch's delicious smoked meats...and I'd be able to open a smoked meat cart to make some extra money.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on October 04, 2016, 12:25:14 PM
Like your HOA would let you run a biz out of a condo.   Pfft. 

Hope you guys like Applebees.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: cfbandyman on October 04, 2016, 12:26:19 PM
 :lol: I guess Bob Knight appealing to the Gooch's of Wichita was how he got the Waterwalk approved.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: tdaver on October 04, 2016, 12:26:29 PM
Do they still have the food truck rally on Sunday's?  Pro for convenient Flying Stove.  Con for all of those people and kids running around.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 12:26:46 PM
Like your HOA would let you run a biz out of a condo.   Pfft. 

Hope you guys like Applebees.

No, not out of the condo. When they have the Food trucks at the fountain, I would wheel my meat cart over there and sell delicious smoked meats.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.ebayimg.com%2F00%2Fs%2FMjM5WDMwMA%3D%3D%2Fz%2Fs6kAAOSwxH1UIgh6%2F%24_35.JPG%3Fset_id%3D2&hash=05d76f92c4ea0489845cd01edd69657c5a2fa0ca)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 04, 2016, 12:32:32 PM
CONdos:

-less space
-people walking above you make noises no matter how thick your walls/ceiling is
-people still have kids there whether they are their grandkids visiting or their own and they will take over your pool
-your neighbors are closer and if you want to pak your face off sometimes you can but also sometimes they will call the office and remind them that quiet hours begin at 11
-maintenance always sucks, no matter what they tell you
-all the people who live in condos are grouchy losers
-you might as well live in southern overland park because you have the exact same floor plan as everyone else in your building
-your tiny gym is crowded with personal trainers and meatheads
-harder to sell, rarely increase in value

PROs:
-no lawn to mow
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 04, 2016, 01:06:46 PM
Noise can't be worse than the cocksucker down the street who currently revs his motorcycle in his garage for 2 straight days on the weekend. It was very quiet there even with tons of poors walking around that building looking at open houses of how the other half lives.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 04, 2016, 01:12:47 PM
You're moving to a condo to avoid annoying neighbors? That's like moving to Lawrence to avoid sexual assault.

annoying children neighbors


what do the annoying children do that is annoying? breathing does not count.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on October 04, 2016, 01:13:32 PM
a lot of posters here appear to be in the pocket of big house, seems weird
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 04, 2016, 01:17:58 PM
You're moving to a condo to avoid annoying neighbors? That's like moving to Lawrence to avoid sexual assault.

annoying children neighbors


what do the annoying children do that is annoying? breathing does not count.
How about drawing all over your driveway with sidewalk chalk without asking. I know I know this did not cause damage but good grief who does that. Just go from house to house in the cul-de-sac drawing all over peoples crap.

Also how about next door neighbor who has a backyard but it is full of weeds and a broken ass trampoline so he can't use it taking batting practice on your well manicure front lawn?

Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 04, 2016, 01:20:30 PM
Then they get older and start going door to door trying to sell the crap their school is making them sell so they can have books or something. GMAFB and go away, kids.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on October 04, 2016, 01:20:43 PM
Your neighborhood sounds like a crap show.  How are you going to sell that thing?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 04, 2016, 01:21:52 PM
WE also have those rounded off curbs so when people have friends over and they attempt to park on the street they rough ridin' have half their god damn car in my yard. Also why the eff are you parking in front of my house? Park in front and in the yard of the god damn house you are visiting.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 04, 2016, 01:24:28 PM
I think you guys should consider a cave on some isolated BLM land or something.  You are not suitable to be around any humans.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 04, 2016, 01:25:32 PM
You're moving to a condo to avoid annoying neighbors? That's like moving to Lawrence to avoid sexual assault.

annoying children neighbors


what do the annoying children do that is annoying? breathing does not count.
How about drawing all over your driveway with sidewalk chalk without asking. I know I know this did not cause damage but good grief who does that. Just go from house to house in the cul-de-sac drawing all over peoples crap.

Also how about next door neighbor who has a backyard but it is full of weeds and a broken ass trampoline so he can't use it taking batting practice on your well manicure front lawn?


I guess everyone is different, but I'd put those pretty low on my annoying list.

the sidewalk chalk thing being more really weird than annoying. the chalk goes away after a rain. still weird they would do that.

the grass is just grass. unless he's chalking up lines and installing a batters box, I doubt their doing any damage. if you're pretty territorial about your stuff/space (I'm not), I'm sure you could always just tell him that you're trying to keep your yard as nice as you can and would prefer for people to stay off of it if possible. I'm sure an occasional ball with still go in your yard and they'll have to walk into it to get it, but if that's enough to upset you than you should probably move out onto a few acres by cheney or something.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 01:26:46 PM
Also when we were in between fences the kids were running through our muddy yard.  :shakesfist:
And the people let their dogs just wander over into our yard and take a crap. WTF!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 04, 2016, 01:27:26 PM
I can't imagine the conversation that first got Gooch and Mrs Gooch interested in each other.  Probably very dark.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 01:28:07 PM
You're moving to a condo to avoid annoying neighbors? That's like moving to Lawrence to avoid sexual assault.

annoying children neighbors


what do the annoying children do that is annoying? breathing does not count.
How about drawing all over your driveway with sidewalk chalk without asking. I know I know this did not cause damage but good grief who does that. Just go from house to house in the cul-de-sac drawing all over peoples crap.

Also how about next door neighbor who has a backyard but it is full of weeds and a broken ass trampoline so he can't use it taking batting practice on your well manicure front lawn?


I guess everyone is different, but I'd put those pretty low on my annoying list.

the sidewalk chalk thing being more really weird than annoying. the chalk goes away after a rain.

the grass is just grass. unless he's chalking up lines and installing a batters box, I doubt their doing any damage. if you're pretty territorial about your stuff/space (I'm not), I'm sure you could always just tell him that you're trying to keep your yard as nice as you can and would prefer for people to stay off of it if possible. I'm sure an occasional ball with still go in your yard and they'll have to walk into it to get it, but if that's enough to upset you than you should probably move out onto a few acres by cheney or something.

Also, my car is parked in the driveway and that ball could hit it at any time. Condo has unlimited covered parking though.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 01:29:05 PM
You're moving to a condo to avoid annoying neighbors? That's like moving to Lawrence to avoid sexual assault.

annoying children neighbors


what do the annoying children do that is annoying? breathing does not count.
How about drawing all over your driveway with sidewalk chalk without asking. I know I know this did not cause damage but good grief who does that. Just go from house to house in the cul-de-sac drawing all over peoples crap.

Also how about next door neighbor who has a backyard but it is full of weeds and a broken ass trampoline so he can't use it taking batting practice on your well manicure front lawn?


I guess everyone is different, but I'd put those pretty low on my annoying list.

the sidewalk chalk thing being more really weird than annoying. the chalk goes away after a rain. still weird they would do that.

the grass is just grass. unless he's chalking up lines and installing a batters box, I doubt their doing any damage. if you're pretty territorial about your stuff/space (I'm not), I'm sure you could always just tell him that you're trying to keep your yard as nice as you can and would prefer for people to stay off of it if possible. I'm sure an occasional ball with still go in your yard and they'll have to walk into it to get it, but if that's enough to upset you than you should probably move out onto a few acres by cheney or something.

It is going to be a little bit more than annoying one day when the kids are sitting in my driveway drawing with chalk and I accidentally run over them.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ChiComCat on October 04, 2016, 01:31:03 PM
From living in my condo:

Noise above you can be a big pain in the ass.  Be in the condo while someone is running around up there.  The one above me was a second home so it wasn't every day, but listening to the kids/dogs running around was absolutely terrible (on top of other loudness that could happen from any neighbor).  Being reasonably young and not having kids, I would rather do the top floor.

Make sure you read through all the HOA crap.  My old condo didn't allow smokers (I found ways around this but it was a pain).  Any flexibility on HOA rules is entirely dependent on your biggest bad person neighbor.  You will have an bad person neighbor.

I never had an issue with maintenance but my building was brand new.

Storage may suck if you have a bunch of crap. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on October 04, 2016, 01:31:41 PM
I can't imagine the conversation that first got Gooch and Mrs Gooch interested in each other.  Probably very dark.


Quote
do you hate kids and dogs?   me too!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 01:33:56 PM
I can't imagine the conversation that first got Gooch and Mrs Gooch interested in each other.  Probably very dark.


Quote
do you hate kids and dogs?   me too!

We don't hate dogs.  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 04, 2016, 01:34:47 PM
This "unlimited covered parking" sounds rough ridin' magical.  Almost like having a garage.  :love:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 01:35:35 PM
As far as storage, there is a whole 1 car garage for storage which we would not need to park a car in (because there is other parking).

Also, is your garage really unlimited? Can you have 45 friends over and all of them get covered parking?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on October 04, 2016, 01:36:57 PM
What is your high end grocery store access like?  That could make/break such a deal, imo.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 04, 2016, 01:37:09 PM
I have a three car garage and can't even get two cars in there.   :facepalm:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 01:40:23 PM
What is your high end grocery store access like?  That could make/break such a deal, imo.

Would be a drive. Maybe an extra 2-3 minutes than what I have to drive to the grocery store now.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 01:53:33 PM
The association dues include water, trash, recycling, basic upkeep, and maintenance of the common areas.

I am not sure what is included in "basic upkeep" and what is not.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 04, 2016, 02:04:53 PM
What is your high end grocery store access like?  That could make/break such a deal, imo.

Would be a drive. Maybe an extra 2-3 minutes than what I have to drive to the grocery store now.
Pfft do you even know where a grocery store is now? :lol:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 02:22:16 PM
I Google mapped it.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 04, 2016, 02:47:31 PM
can you not fence in the front yard area?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 04, 2016, 03:11:43 PM
for someone who really doesnt want to have a lawn to mow the gooches really dont like it when people step foot on their lawn.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 04, 2016, 03:13:46 PM
to each their own, gooches. seems to me like you guys just dont really like having neighbors at all. a condo doesnt solve that problem.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 04, 2016, 03:15:00 PM
dugout dickstone may have some lesser-utilized lodging ideas which may solve your dilemma
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: sys on October 04, 2016, 03:21:25 PM
where will you put your dogs?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on October 04, 2016, 03:37:09 PM
After hearing the neighbor complaints, I suggest moving out of Wichita
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 04, 2016, 03:53:15 PM
These gooch's seem like great Larnerd material.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 04, 2016, 03:54:14 PM
where will you put your dogs?
Place is dog friendly but we are not getting a new dog for a long time.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 04, 2016, 05:39:19 PM
One of the things I like the most about our new pad is that I might....I repeat might....have to talk to a neighbor once every week or so.*

*Unless I just wave and keep driving.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on October 04, 2016, 06:24:28 PM
I haven't talked to a neighbor since the day I moved in
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 04, 2016, 06:26:46 PM
nancy neg: people ashing heaters on you from above
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Big Train on October 04, 2016, 07:44:40 PM
I've never lived with neighbors above me and don't understand why anybody would want to
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: puniraptor on October 04, 2016, 07:47:26 PM
If you were to do this, why wouldn't you get the top floor? hows the view? 'ta skyline?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 07:54:34 PM
If you were to do this, why wouldn't you get the top floor? hows the view? 'ta skyline?

The top floor is twice the price and most of the parking isn't even covered. Plus the balcony/deck is only half the size.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Trim on October 04, 2016, 08:01:16 PM
I need to hear more about the guest room/couch situation and also if there'll still be a 2nd cable box equipped w/a slingbox that has the channel usually on whatever janky content-filler channel the 'cats are on, but I almost certainly support this.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 08:27:00 PM
There is a "bonus room" which is not a room but a little notched out area that has a hospital style curtain that can be pulled around for privacy. Looking to get a futon for that area or maybe that IKEA couch/bed thing that you got.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 04, 2016, 08:29:13 PM
post floor plan itt and we will decorate it for you
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: puniraptor on October 04, 2016, 08:42:08 PM
There is a "bonus room" which is not a room but a little notched out area that has a hospital style curtain that can be pulled around for privacy. Looking to get a futon for that area or maybe that IKEA couch/bed thing that you got.

tatami room for tea ceremony
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 04, 2016, 08:43:10 PM
was thinking the same obvs
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Kat Kid on October 04, 2016, 09:06:30 PM
There is a "bonus room" which is not a room but a little notched out area that has a hospital style curtain that can be pulled around for privacy. Looking to get a futon for that area or maybe that IKEA couch/bed thing that you got.

dry shower for dry shampoo and patchouli application
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on October 04, 2016, 09:16:23 PM
goEMAW hayseeds:  every major city in the world is doing it wrong, condos r bad!   :curse:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on October 04, 2016, 09:17:33 PM
it's wichita
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 04, 2016, 09:19:11 PM
thoughts on me moving into an itch manhattan condo?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Trim on October 04, 2016, 09:20:34 PM
thoughts on me moving into an itch manhattan condo?

Get something way above the main strip that would have you taking shortcuts through mexican kitchens to get out to the street.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 04, 2016, 09:21:11 PM
#secondfloorlife
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on October 04, 2016, 09:26:13 PM
thoughts on me moving into an itch manhattan condo?

i think it would be great
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: sys on October 04, 2016, 09:28:44 PM
after evaluating all of the available information, and reviewing the arguments expressed, i've decided to support mr&mrsgoochcondo.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: kim carnes on October 04, 2016, 09:30:25 PM
Buying a condo in a small Midwestern city is not a sound investment.  Just fyi
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: puniraptor on October 04, 2016, 09:44:09 PM
Buying a condo in a small Midwestern city is not a sound investment.  Just fyi

buy the building, then claim a 900 million dollar loss on your taxes
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on October 04, 2016, 09:46:18 PM
Buying a condo in a small Midwestern city is not a sound investment.  Just fyi

neither is buying a house
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Trim on October 04, 2016, 10:14:32 PM
Condo.  :thumbs:

If the tea room sucks, I'll crash at the hyatt or ambassador.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 04, 2016, 10:17:18 PM
There is a Fairfield Inn onsite we would supposedly get a discount to.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Bloodfart on October 04, 2016, 10:30:49 PM
BBSing gold. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 05, 2016, 09:10:01 AM
can't wait for mrs. gooch to post gooches cc statement showing Fairfield inn on it.. she thinks he's cheating but he really just needed a little space to get away from the condo life
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 05, 2016, 09:49:01 AM
I need to hear more about the guest room/couch situation and also if there'll still be a 2nd cable box equipped w/a slingbox that has the channel usually on whatever janky content-filler channel the 'cats are on, but I almost certainly support this.
Also get discounted rates for the semi attached hotel so we basically have 100+ guest rooms. Sling box will still be available.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Trim on October 05, 2016, 09:53:39 AM
I won't be paying, so no Fairfield.  Negotiate discount point redemption codes for the Hyatt or Ambassador as part of the condo deal.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 05, 2016, 10:17:16 AM
This is all moving way to quickly!!!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on October 05, 2016, 10:22:05 AM
Since you will be living in the Fairfield Inn, will you accumulate points nightly?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on October 05, 2016, 10:22:35 AM
Also, will you have any input in what they stock in their vending machines, as a member of the HOA?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Trim on October 05, 2016, 10:30:22 AM
Also, will you have any input in what they stock in their vending machines, as a member of the HOA?

It's a market, man.  THE market.

(https://i0.bookcdn.com/data/Photos/OriginalPhoto/1323/132365/132365646/Fairfield-Inn--Suites-Wichita-East-photos-Exterior-Hotel-information.JPEG)

Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 05, 2016, 10:34:32 AM
I won't be paying, so no Fairfield.  Negotiate discount point redemption codes for the Hyatt or Ambassador as part of the condo deal.

Don't you have any Marriott points?  :D
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Trim on October 05, 2016, 10:35:26 AM
Quote
WATERWALK IS...
Green spaces with lush, scenic landscaping, ponds, water features, walking paths and public art.
WaterWalk Place luxury condos, Fairfield Inn & Suites by Marriott, office, retail and restaurant space.
Seasonal and year-round activities including concerts, charity walks, marathons and holiday celebrations.
Covered parking for nearly 1,000 cars plus additional street parking.
The Fountains at WaterWalk - spectacular water, light and music shows.
Easy access to other downtown destinations via Q-line Trolley.
Walking distance to Century II, Intrust Bank Arena, museums, galleries, restaurants, shops and theatres.
0-15 minutes from just about anywhere in the city.

They gotta do better w/the retail and restaurant thing.  "Space" is bullshit.

http://www.wichitawaterwalk.com/interactive-property-map

Quote
WaterWalk Tenants       
 
        
Gander Mountain       

Marriott Fairfield Inn & Suites       

Realtors of South Central Kansas       

           
 
        
WaterWalk Place Tenants       
 
        
VisitWichita Convention & Visitors Bureau       

Pulaski Bank Home Lending       

Platinum Realty       

Kelley, York & Associates, Ltd        

V Wealth Management       

WaterWalk Management Office       

IMS Barter       

Signal 88 Security       

Farmer's Insurance       
 Coming Soon!

http://www.wichitawaterwalk.com/waterwalk-directory.html
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Trim on October 05, 2016, 10:35:58 AM
I won't be paying, so no Fairfield.  Negotiate discount point redemption codes for the Hyatt or Ambassador as part of the condo deal.

Don't you have any Marriott points?  :D

Yeah, to be used at the Ambassador.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 05, 2016, 10:55:08 AM
Since you will be living in the Fairfield Inn, will you accumulate points nightly?
Not sure but we do get the free airport shuttle!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on October 05, 2016, 10:57:12 AM
 :driving:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Trim on October 05, 2016, 11:04:25 AM
I might have to save a 5/24 slot to get another Marriott card depending on how this all shakes out.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 05, 2016, 11:08:30 AM
We could always put up the tent and air mattress for you out here.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos.zillowstatic.com%2Fp_f%2FISe0x531ghdny00000000000.jpg&hash=3ceff25fc430be70dad8c86aff8938cd3cfd4e67)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 05, 2016, 11:10:23 AM
The gym is quite adequate. Also no YMCA weirdos not racking the weights.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos.zillowstatic.com%2Fp_f%2FISm6zhl7kplky00000000000.jpg&hash=5a5c5013677b4cbbb9ea50ede77a1e45333ae352)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Trim on October 05, 2016, 11:13:05 AM
We could always put up the tent and air mattress for you out here.

Fire pit time.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Trim on October 05, 2016, 11:18:52 AM
Looking at the price/points rates, the move if I had to go back a lot would be to get a Marriott card, pay for work nights there w/the Gooch discount, get reimbursed, earn bonus points and stockpile them to convert/use at SPG properties.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 05, 2016, 11:23:08 AM
Direct flights in the spring too.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on October 05, 2016, 12:24:57 PM
Condo.  :thumbs:

If the tea room sucks, I'll crash at the hyatt or ambassador.

got this jumbo suite at the ambassador the other day. it was tres nice (means very nice in france).
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 05, 2016, 12:44:30 PM
post floor plan itt and we will decorate it for you

I couldn't find one so I drew this one.

*Not to scale.

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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Big Train on October 05, 2016, 12:47:58 PM
Have you ever drawn a powercat?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 05, 2016, 12:54:27 PM
What is the kitchen situation at this joint?  Will Gooch have the necessary space to create his culinary masterpieces?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on October 05, 2016, 12:55:36 PM
is bathroom 2 just a bucket in a tiny closet?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 05, 2016, 01:01:02 PM
is bathroom 2 just a bucket in a tiny closet?

*Not to scale.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 05, 2016, 01:03:51 PM
What is the kitchen situation at this joint?  Will Gooch have the necessary space to create his culinary masterpieces?

Bigger than our current kitchen.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 05, 2016, 01:04:59 PM
What is the kitchen situation at this joint?  Will Gooch have the necessary space to create his culinary masterpieces?
Better actually. The Pantry is a huge improvement. #ingredients
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos.zillowstatic.com%2Fp_f%2FISy7cina92z3y00000000000.jpg&hash=0c48f5b14720aa3abf00053b5dc63ea5982f8222)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 05, 2016, 01:11:35 PM
What is the kitchen situation at this joint?  Will Gooch have the necessary space to create his culinary masterpieces?
Better actually. The Pantry is a huge improvement. #ingredients
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos.zillowstatic.com%2Fp_f%2FISy7cina92z3y00000000000.jpg&hash=0c48f5b14720aa3abf00053b5dc63ea5982f8222)

 :fistpump:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 05, 2016, 01:18:38 PM
is bathroom 2 just a bucket in a tiny closet?

It is almost as big as the laundry room. It has a toilet, sink, and shower.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on October 05, 2016, 01:37:16 PM
What is the kitchen situation at this joint?  Will Gooch have the necessary space to create his culinary masterpieces?
Better actually. The Pantry is a huge improvement. #ingredients
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos.zillowstatic.com%2Fp_f%2FISy7cina92z3y00000000000.jpg&hash=0c48f5b14720aa3abf00053b5dc63ea5982f8222)

is that a mini dishawasher or a trash compactor?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 05, 2016, 01:41:46 PM
Trash compactor. There is also a normal size dishwasher.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 05, 2016, 01:52:31 PM
Get the condo!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 05, 2016, 01:54:12 PM
Did you guys notice the window in the bedroom wall?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 05, 2016, 02:08:40 PM
Have you ever drawn a powercat?

I drew this one about a year ago but then I was too embarrassed to post it.

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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on October 05, 2016, 02:09:45 PM
that is a crustacean
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Big Train on October 05, 2016, 02:10:05 PM
:thumbs:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mhkpasa on October 05, 2016, 02:12:04 PM
Lost in all of the details, but unlimited covered parking means your front door opens to the public parking garage like, 4th floor, right?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 05, 2016, 02:14:45 PM
Lost in all of the details, but unlimited covered parking means your front door opens to the public parking garage like, 4th floor, right?

2nd floor, but yes it opens to the parking garage which is for residents and their guests.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: purrkatz on October 05, 2016, 02:26:43 PM
that is a crustacean

 :lol: :ROFL:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: tdaver on October 05, 2016, 02:43:39 PM
Did you guys notice the window in the bedroom wall?

Yes!  Post a pic of that
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 05, 2016, 03:07:18 PM
Did you guys notice the window in the bedroom wall?

Yes!  Post a pic of that

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fd2os2ogqq1uui5.cloudfront.net%2Fpics%2Fproperty%2F47252653%2F11%2FIDX_11%2Fv22%2F%2Fmaxheight%2F653&hash=2aa3901ed979d32cab0c132c3926a6eb52ae18a3)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on October 05, 2016, 03:20:58 PM
what the
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Bloodfart on October 05, 2016, 03:24:01 PM
Can you store stuff above the bedroom?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 05, 2016, 03:25:02 PM
what the

Yeah, I know but it is so you can see the view off the balcony while laying in bed.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 05, 2016, 03:25:58 PM
Can you store stuff above the bedroom?

No, unfortunately that wall just doesn't go all the way up.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 05, 2016, 03:28:08 PM
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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: tdaver on October 05, 2016, 03:31:06 PM
you can do puppet shows for the people waiting to buy gooch's smoked meats!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Bloodfart on October 05, 2016, 03:32:03 PM
Can you store stuff above the bedroom?

No, unfortunately that wall just doesn't go all the way up.

Well that's just absurd.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on October 05, 2016, 03:32:11 PM
That window seems very porn'y.

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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 05, 2016, 03:32:44 PM
the wall to the bedrooms don't go up all the way??
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 05, 2016, 03:33:28 PM
The drawing looks like exactly what I would expect a Hillbot to look like.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 05, 2016, 03:38:53 PM
Right. That window made me think of a puppet show also...and porn puppet show, maybe.

No, the walls on the bedroom do not go all the way up, which is annoying because when I am trying to watch Fear the Walking Dead in the bedroom Gooch is going to be complaining that he can hear it. He actually suggested that I could watch on a laptop with earphones. WTF.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on October 05, 2016, 03:39:33 PM
those halfway up walls are pretty wtf
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 05, 2016, 03:40:40 PM
neighbor kids have absolutely mindfucked the gooches, incredible
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 05, 2016, 03:41:26 PM
I think I'd knock on the window when you had the blinds closed and you'd be greeted by a nice pressed ham against the window
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 05, 2016, 03:47:49 PM
I think I'd knock on the window when you had the blinds closed and you'd be greeted by a nice pressed ham against the window

Thanks for the idea......
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Big Train on October 05, 2016, 04:04:54 PM
Why are there so many lights in the hallway thing?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2016, 04:09:10 PM
I don't want to be the bonus room guest with those half walls
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 05, 2016, 04:11:45 PM
I would also have a bunch of random things that I could throw into the bedroom(that wouldn't hurt you of course)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 05, 2016, 04:25:41 PM
I don't want to be the bonus room guest with those half walls

the half-walls remind me of our high school.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on October 05, 2016, 04:26:30 PM
that electric stove is for the birds, the gooch that i know would never allow that to stand
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: sys on October 05, 2016, 04:34:40 PM
i like the kitchen a lot, but the mini porn bedroom built inside the house is the stupidest thing i've ever seen.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 05, 2016, 04:36:11 PM
that electric stove is for the birds, the gooch that i know would never allow that to stand

Very similar to the stove we have now.
Title: buying a house
Post by: catastrophe on October 05, 2016, 04:37:41 PM
Are you sure that's supposed to be used as a bedroom? Seems more like a playroom with the windows and walls so you can see and hear the kids but still keep them shut in so they don't wander off.

Omg that's it: You should totally run a daycare out of your house!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2016, 04:38:12 PM
Post the "view"
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 05, 2016, 04:44:00 PM
gooches- i hope you enjoy your new place. it looks very nice and seems like you are excited about it. good luck in selling your house.

sincerely,

tonya harding of twitter users creep
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on October 05, 2016, 04:47:39 PM
that electric stove is for the birds, the gooch that i know would never allow that to stand

Very similar to the stove we have now.

i am disappoint
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Trim on October 05, 2016, 05:09:17 PM
Post the "view"

First, tell the agent to take and make available almost any other picture of the "view" than the one he or she put up.  That one isn't gonna go over well here.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: puniraptor on October 05, 2016, 05:41:33 PM
those halfway up walls are pretty wtf

im certain this is a firecode loophole. they probably would have had to reconfigure the sprinklers if they were full walls
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2016, 05:54:10 PM
Or trying to make it seem hip and lofty
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: puniraptor on October 05, 2016, 06:01:13 PM
one of them wont be able to sleep while the other one stays up all night playing dreamcast
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: nicname on October 05, 2016, 10:42:02 PM
I'm for the condo. I'd shoot for top floor tho!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: puniraptor on October 05, 2016, 10:48:58 PM
your parking garage is going to make for awesome nerf battles
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2016, 11:01:42 PM
I legitimately laughed out loud when I saw the front door situation
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 05, 2016, 11:05:03 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpSaoYgH.jpg&hash=92c8073793ced7bb8c2c6367353123d0cd395219)

to each their own but i dunno guys.  halloween provides plenty of opportunity to thin the herd
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 06, 2016, 07:52:07 AM
those halfway up walls are pretty wtf

im certain this is a firecode loophole. they probably would have had to reconfigure the sprinklers if they were full walls
Correct
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 06, 2016, 08:10:26 AM
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to each their own but i dunno guys.  halloween provides plenty of opportunity to thin the herd

Where did this picture come from? That's not the same unit (or else all of the trim and kitchen has been redone). That means that ours isn't the only one with the WTF window. Another unit we looked at did not have the WTF window.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 06, 2016, 08:26:20 AM
It looks like a room for a bubble boy.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ChiComCat on October 06, 2016, 08:36:02 AM
Have someone close up the WTF window if you want.  I couldn't imagine it would be that difficult or expensive.  If they are brand new and the construction people are still on site, make them do it as part of your deal.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 06, 2016, 08:39:14 AM
Have someone close up the WTF window if you want.  I couldn't imagine it would be that difficult or expensive.  If they are brand new and the construction people are still on site, make them do it as part of your deal.
Not new. The bldg has been done for 7 years. I like the window and if it wasn't there i would probably like to add one.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 06, 2016, 08:43:23 AM
Where did this picture come from? That's not the same unit (or else all of the trim and kitchen has been redone). That means that ours isn't the only one with the WTF window. Another unit we looked at did not have the WTF window.

it's actually on their home page, below their splash image
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: puniraptor on October 06, 2016, 08:55:17 AM
I like the window. If you're not going to have a ceiling, you may as well have a window
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on October 06, 2016, 08:56:20 AM
I like the window too.  If it can't be on an outside wall, it would be nice to have a window to a room with a window to the outside.

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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 06, 2016, 09:01:10 AM
so mrs gooch is going to have to start watching Netflix on her phone with headphones on all because some seven year old sidewalk chalked their driveway? yeah, that sounds completely reasonable.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 06, 2016, 09:03:10 AM
also, I just had a v funny image of gooch standing in their living room with a squeegee and bucket cleaning their bedroom window .
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on October 06, 2016, 09:14:47 AM
Meet the neighbors!

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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: puniraptor on October 06, 2016, 09:15:50 AM
Every day could be Harley Day
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 06, 2016, 09:22:33 AM
None of those people live there.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: puniraptor on October 06, 2016, 09:23:08 AM
None of those people live there.
How far is the walk to Gander Mountain?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on October 06, 2016, 09:24:51 AM
notre dame guy sees the world through gold colored glasses, amazing.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 06, 2016, 09:27:33 AM
Is this part of some super aggressive early retirement plan?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 06, 2016, 09:31:14 AM
None of those people live there.
How far is the walk to Gander Mountain?

2 minutes.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on October 06, 2016, 09:38:53 AM
those halfway up walls are pretty wtf

im certain this is a firecode loophole. they probably would have had to reconfigure the sprinklers if they were full walls

also eliminates the need for a fully distributed HVAC system (in theory)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 07, 2016, 02:52:03 PM
We used the same realtor from when we bought our current house years ago. He may have experienced some sort of brain trauma since then cause this guy is a rough ridin' moron now. :frown:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 07, 2016, 04:00:36 PM
We used the same realtor from when we bought our current house years ago. He may have experienced some sort of brain trauma since then cause this guy is a rough ridin' moron now. :frown:

I know a guy.  Sold our house in 4 days.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on October 07, 2016, 04:02:44 PM
I don't think you're allowed to be a realtor if your iq reaches triple digits
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Big Train on October 07, 2016, 04:03:09 PM
^^^^ knows how IQ works
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 07, 2016, 04:08:02 PM
We used the same realtor from when we bought our current house years ago. He may have experienced some sort of brain trauma since then cause this guy is a rough ridin' moron now. :frown:

I know a guy.  Sold our house in 4 days.
We haven't fired him yet
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 07, 2016, 06:17:45 PM
We used the same realtor from when we bought our current house years ago. He may have experienced some sort of brain trauma since then cause this guy is a rough ridin' moron now. :frown:

I know a guy.  Sold our house in 4 days.
We haven't fired him yet

Isn't firing a realtor sort of hard to do?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on October 07, 2016, 06:20:09 PM
We used the same realtor from when we bought our current house years ago. He may have experienced some sort of brain trauma since then cause this guy is a rough ridin' moron now. :frown:

I know a guy.  Sold our house in 4 days.
We haven't fired him yet

Isn't firing a realtor sort of hard to do?

Depends on how alpha you are
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on October 07, 2016, 06:23:28 PM
if you signed a contract with the rill-ah-tur, check how long the contract is valid. if it's like a super long time you have to like find some reason to fire him
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on October 07, 2016, 06:50:32 PM
Usually 6 mo contract.  That said, I bet they would let you out of it if you asked.

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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 07, 2016, 11:07:20 PM
We used the same realtor from when we bought our current house years ago. He may have experienced some sort of brain trauma since then cause this guy is a rough ridin' moron now. :frown:

I know a guy.  Sold our house in 4 days.
We haven't fired him yet

When you fire him, let me know.  I will get you hooked up with my guy.  I think he has ADD, but he sells the crap out of houses.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: kim carnes on October 08, 2016, 09:35:57 AM
We used the same realtor from when we bought our current house years ago. He may have experienced some sort of brain trauma since then cause this guy is a rough ridin' moron now. :frown:

I know a guy.  Sold our house in 4 days.
We haven't fired him yet

When you fire him, let me know.  I will get you hooked up with my guy.  I think he has ADD, but he sells the crap out of houses.

It's weird that u think your house sold bc of your realtor.  That's not what happened.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 10, 2016, 08:22:12 AM
Disregard all of the above. Change condo to house.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 10, 2016, 08:28:57 AM
knock on potential neighbors' doors wearing pedostache, ask about children in the neighborhood
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on October 10, 2016, 08:46:06 AM
That's probably a good plan, gooches
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 10, 2016, 08:49:32 AM
They rejected our offer which was a good thing. The more we thought about that place it was too small.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Trim on October 10, 2016, 08:50:45 AM
Rent out your house, use the rent income to pay for renting a condo-like apartment.  No commitment.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 10, 2016, 09:31:05 AM
We used the same realtor from when we bought our current house years ago. He may have experienced some sort of brain trauma since then cause this guy is a rough ridin' moron now. :frown:

I know a guy.  Sold our house in 4 days.
We haven't fired him yet

When you fire him, let me know.  I will get you hooked up with my guy.  I think he has ADD, but he sells the crap out of houses.

It's weird that u think your house sold bc of your realtor.  That's not what happened.

OK
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 10, 2016, 09:39:43 AM
Rent out your house, use the rent income to pay for renting a condo-like apartment.  No commitment.
Way too much hassle for basically breaking even. Will just sell and buy something that fits better. The condo situation in Wichita is awful and with a house there is an unlimited supply.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Trim on October 10, 2016, 10:01:47 AM
What ended up coming to be with that area in college hill north of douglas across from where that dillon's and 2 bros bbq is?  There were those brownstone-ish places and also a thought of a "tall" condo building.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 10, 2016, 10:27:05 AM
What ended up coming to be with that area in college hill north of douglas across from where that dillon's and 2 bros bbq is?  There were those brownstone-ish places and also a thought of a "tall" condo building.
Those are 3 floors per unit and 3600sf. Way too big and the deck area is tiny and almost completly enclosed. Smoking and grilling would be a no go.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 10, 2016, 10:45:30 AM
you guys should find a HOA that doesn't allow sidewalk chalk
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 10, 2016, 10:50:17 AM
you guys should find a HOA that doesn't allow sidewalk chalk

A great thing about the condo was this in the HOA rules...
Quote
Playing in elevators, driveways, parking areas, storage areas, corridors or stairwells is prohibited.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: _33 on October 10, 2016, 10:55:03 AM
What about a townhouse? or Duplex?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 10, 2016, 10:59:03 AM
What about a townhouse? or Duplex?
Very limited inventory in Wichita but I found a few to look at. One is on a lake!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 10, 2016, 11:38:27 AM
Some folks I know live in Kechi in a duplex and seem to like it.  :dunno:  Single income tho.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 10, 2016, 11:41:40 AM
Kechi, Bell Aire, and Park City are non starters. Hell why not move to Haysville? :lol:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 10, 2016, 12:14:58 PM
Kechi, Bell Aire, and Park City are non starters. Hell why not move to Haysville? :lol:

Buy a house in Emerald Bay or The Moorings so we can come over and booze cruise on the lake.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 10, 2016, 12:25:54 PM
Here is what we need:
1500 sq ft
2+ bedrooms (prefer master with walk-in closet)
2+ bathrooms, including master with 2 sinks (preferably walk in shower)
low maintenance (i.e. small yard or HOA that takes care of it)
Patio (or deck)
Decent sized kitchen - preferably open to living/dining room
2+ car garage (like actually big enough for 2 cars plus some stuff)
Not in BFE

Where can I find that?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 10, 2016, 12:27:20 PM
isn't that your current house?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 10, 2016, 12:27:44 PM
(dunno about garage situaish)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 10, 2016, 12:36:53 PM
Need to add sidewalk chalk proof driveway to the list.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 10, 2016, 12:41:53 PM
isn't that your current house?

The garage in our current house is too small (supposed to be 2 car but not really)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 10, 2016, 12:42:13 PM
Need to add sidewalk chalk proof driveway to the list.

No kid neighbors would be preferable
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 10, 2016, 12:43:07 PM
isn't that your current house?

The garage in our current house is too small (supposed to be 2 car but not really)

Would actually prefer 3+ car garage.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 10, 2016, 12:44:14 PM
isn't that your current house?

Also, we don't have a master bath and don't have 2 sinks in the nearest-to-the-bedroom bathroom.

Also, no walk-in closet currently.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on October 10, 2016, 12:45:48 PM
1. Build a new condo bldg,  making it what you want, then smash competitors because all other ones are Fairfield inns with half wall bedrooms.

or

2. buy in a maint provided community that normally only has 55yr olds and higher.  Those ppl hate kids, pets off leash, noise, etc. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 10, 2016, 12:49:03 PM
1. Build a new condo bldg,  making it what you want, then smash competitors because all other ones are Fairfield inns with half wall bedrooms.

or

2. buy in a maint provided community that normally only has 55yr olds and higher.  Those ppl hate kids, pets off leash, noise, etc. 

Again #2 Is very limited in options in Wichita. Crestview is an option but I hate golf and those condos are giant.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 10, 2016, 12:50:22 PM
Here is what we need:
1500 sq ft
2+ bedrooms (prefer master with walk-in closet)
2+ bathrooms, including master with 2 sinks (preferably walk in shower)
low maintenance (i.e. small yard or HOA that takes care of it)
Patio (or deck)
Decent sized kitchen - preferably open to living/dining room
2+ car garage (like actually big enough for 2 cars plus some stuff)
Not in BFE

Where can I find that?
Good Grief stop already. gE.com can't even crowd source Trim a dog and you think they are going to find us a new house?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 10, 2016, 12:51:36 PM
1. Build a new condo bldg,  making it what you want, then smash competitors because all other ones are Fairfield inns with half wall bedrooms.

or

2. buy in a maint provided community that normally only has 55yr olds and higher.  Those ppl hate kids, pets off leash, noise, etc. 

Again #2 Is very limited in options in Wichita. Crestview is an option but I hate golf and those condos are giant.

Yes, #2 is an acceptable plan if you can tell me where to find one that meets the requirements I set out (also not shitty).

We found one that seemed good until we realized that all they do is mow the lawn (no tress/shrubs or external construction maintenance) and make you adhere to a bunch of rules.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on October 10, 2016, 01:01:23 PM
Go find a lot and build what you want.  If you move to KC, I will do it for 20% on top.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 10, 2016, 01:13:29 PM
Kechi, Bell Aire, and Park City are non starters. Hell why not move to Haysville? :lol:

Sorry extremely LWIQ here.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on October 10, 2016, 02:31:06 PM
i think the answer that you're searching for is to remove yourselves from wichita
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 10, 2016, 02:39:39 PM
you can take the juggalo out of Wichita but you can't take the Wichita out of the juggalo pclams
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 10, 2016, 02:40:16 PM
you can take the juggalo out of Wichita but you can't take the Wichita out of the juggalo pclams

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Shooter Jones on October 10, 2016, 02:43:15 PM
anyone ever bought a foreclosed house or know someone that has?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on October 10, 2016, 02:44:28 PM
What do you want to know?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 10, 2016, 02:44:52 PM
i think the answer that you're searching for is to remove yourselves from wichita

This is probably correct but I don't feel like looking for a job in addition to a house/condo.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Shooter Jones on October 10, 2016, 02:51:25 PM
What do you want to know?

I had never really looked into it until recently, and have heard things all over the board. So I guess any info is good info.

How'd the process go? Can you lose the contract if someone offers more during the process? Inspecting damages/repairs before making an offer? Liens/debts possible?

Possibly dumbass questions, but I'm a dumbass, so it happens.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on October 10, 2016, 02:53:38 PM
What do you want to know?

I had never really looked into it until recently, and have heard things all over the board. So I guess any info is good info.

How'd the process go? Can you lose the contract if someone offers more during the process? Inspecting damages/repairs before making an offer? Liens/debts possible?

Possibly dumbass questions, but I'm a dumbass, so it happens.

granted it's been about 10 years since I considered it but :   As-Is sales, sometimes sight unseen purchase.   I don't recall any concerns over liens, etc. - that should all be cleared up by the bank .     It takes a long time, especially if there is a short sale.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on October 10, 2016, 03:06:13 PM
I haven't gone all the way through with the process but looked into several when buying last.

I think it is a case by case basis.  A lot of the time, you tour it just like any other for sale home.  You can have the inspections and what not done if you want and you can negotiate if you want, but my realtor told me that they basically just ignore you unless they are unusually motivated(which usually they are not) or if your offer is very close to their ask and that the bank never GAF about what the inspection finds.  My realtor went further to tell me that most realtors won't even show them because it is such a long drug out pain in the ass for the money they get. 



Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 10, 2016, 03:16:10 PM
homes are soo much cheaper in Wichita!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 10, 2016, 04:27:57 PM
homes are soo much cheaper in Wichita!
Wow what a revelation! Would you also believe that a home would cost more in say LA. It's as if cost of living varies from city to city. Weird.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 10, 2016, 04:31:11 PM
Hey buttface, I was talking MHK compared to Wichita. Not Alma compared to Wichita or something ridiculous
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: puniraptor on October 10, 2016, 05:18:16 PM
does 'ta have some kind of meadowlark hills?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Big Train on October 10, 2016, 07:18:44 PM
i think the answer that you're searching for is to remove yourselves from wichita

This is probably correct but I don't feel like looking for a job in addition to a house/condo.

In the long run it would pay for itself
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 10, 2016, 07:26:41 PM
come for the pizza, stay for the juggalos
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Kat Kid on October 10, 2016, 07:39:59 PM
Hey buttface, I was talking MHK compared to Wichita. Not Alma compared to Wichita or something ridiculous

Location, location, location.


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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 11, 2016, 08:02:41 AM
Found a new patio home last night only about two miles from my current house. Size is about perfect. HOA takes care of all the landscaping and sprinklers/well. Going to look at this today. Best part is is backs up to a berm to block the field behind it so no neighbors behind me. Hopefully no chalk wielding kids. :crossfingers:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 11, 2016, 08:06:48 AM
sounds like a perfect stranger things hideout to me
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on October 11, 2016, 09:14:24 AM
Wichita is practically Oklahoma.  Patio homes are basically trailers in the eyes of a tornado.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 11, 2016, 09:16:31 AM
Wichita is practically Oklahoma.  Patio homes are basically trailers in the eyes of a tornado.

Some of them have a safe room.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on October 11, 2016, 09:17:11 AM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KITNfury on October 12, 2016, 07:33:55 AM
The market in KC is really hot.  I'm glad I'm not home searching right now. Although buying a house is fun.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 12, 2016, 09:13:47 AM
Warm up a help Mr. and Mrs. Gooch build a house thread!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on October 12, 2016, 09:24:27 AM
Warm up a help Mr. and Mrs. Gooch build a house thread!

apparently it's a massive pain in the ass because construction workers are complete dumbasses
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 12, 2016, 09:25:45 AM
We are changing directions so fast and often I can't keep track of what is going on.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 12, 2016, 09:36:49 AM
Although buying a house is fun.
It really is!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 12, 2016, 09:52:24 AM
buy the winstons by the carton to save money in the long run
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on October 12, 2016, 09:52:53 AM
check what you're allowed to do re: building a wall around the property
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on October 12, 2016, 09:53:50 AM
Just move to a Seattle condo
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 12, 2016, 10:01:21 AM
Just move to a Seattle condo

But please get the dog before you move.  Getting a dog in Seattle is very very hard.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 12, 2016, 10:10:37 AM
Just move to a Seattle condo

 :love:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on October 12, 2016, 11:43:35 AM
JohnnyWichita and ChocolatxxxxxxxxxxxxxxThunder are whipping ass in the advice giving right now. :thumbs:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 17, 2016, 09:46:27 AM
Found the house I want.


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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 17, 2016, 09:49:17 AM
Found the house I want.

just think of the sidewalk chalk mural that could be drawn on that driveway.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on October 17, 2016, 09:50:08 AM
I envision the angry John Brown mural
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on October 22, 2016, 07:06:09 PM
Wait wait wait, my mortgage company has no way to accept payment other than via a physical check, in the mail, wtf is this?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on October 22, 2016, 07:10:06 PM
Radpad w/ the CC you are churning that month.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: puniraptor on October 22, 2016, 07:20:25 PM
Wait wait wait, my mortgage company has no way to accept payment other than via a physical check, in the mail, wtf is this?
Seems weird, they'll probably resell it to another bank with better services in a few weeks.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: IPA4Me on October 22, 2016, 07:21:10 PM
Wait wait wait, my mortgage company has no way to accept payment other than via a physical check, in the mail, wtf is this?
GTFOOH. How is that a thing in 2016?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on October 22, 2016, 07:21:24 PM
I think this is that 2nd bank :frown:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 22, 2016, 07:50:01 PM
what on earth mocat. are you sure that's a real bank? please tell me this is not a po box
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: CNS on October 22, 2016, 07:50:49 PM
I didn't even know the Minnonites had banks.

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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on October 22, 2016, 07:55:37 PM
what on earth mocat. are you sure that's a real bank? please tell me this is not a po box

Their name is in giant letters above the cubs video board rn
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Kat Kid on October 24, 2016, 08:18:12 AM
Found the house I want.

Is that house just a bunch of garages?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 24, 2016, 08:29:47 AM
Found the house I want.

Is that house just a bunch of garages?

7 car garage(es?)....The house part looked like it could be ~2000 sq ft (I didn't take a picture from the house side). It wasn't for sale, just in a neighborhood where we were looking.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on October 24, 2016, 09:17:53 AM
pfft, Wintrust sounds like a bunch of buffoons.   But this is where BillPay from your bank comes in handy.  Set it and forget it.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 8manpick on January 12, 2017, 11:31:46 AM
:runaway:  :Wha:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: DQ12 on January 12, 2017, 11:45:13 AM
:surprised:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: IPA4Me on January 13, 2017, 05:21:56 PM
:runaway:  :Wha:
Better head over to the lawn thread.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 'taterblast on January 13, 2017, 05:26:08 PM
looking
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on January 13, 2017, 05:30:18 PM
just buy the first one you see
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 02, 2017, 03:28:14 PM
:peek:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: SdK on June 02, 2017, 03:36:05 PM
Awesome!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: SdK on June 02, 2017, 03:36:35 PM
Be sure to post the address so I can mail ya something.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on June 02, 2017, 03:46:44 PM
Sounds like I'm going to be all alone in waldo after wackycat08 and cf3 move to Olathe
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 02, 2017, 03:59:47 PM
Sounds like I'm going to be all alone in waldo after wackycat08 and cf3 move to Olathe

Actually I'm more in like the "selling a house" part of the thread rn
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on June 02, 2017, 04:00:50 PM
Sounds like I'm going to be all alone in waldo after wackycat08 and cf3 move to Olathe

Actually I'm more in like the "selling a house" part of the thread rn

Moving in with the inlaws for a bit?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 02, 2017, 04:03:51 PM
Sounds like I'm going to be all alone in waldo after wackycat08 and cf3 move to Olathe

Actually I'm more in like the "selling a house" part of the thread rn

Moving in with the inlaws for a bit?

its possible if the timing works out weird, but we'd be with my parents not the inlaws.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: michigancat on June 02, 2017, 05:07:18 PM
what are houses in say, Central Hyde Park going for these days?

Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: michigancat on June 02, 2017, 05:07:38 PM
(Yes I know I could probably look it up but I want to have a conversation with my friends)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 02, 2017, 05:31:48 PM
Fifth Third has shitty payment options too.  Hell also US Bank charges 5 bucks to pay online.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on June 07, 2017, 06:36:44 PM
:peek:

 :Wha:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 08, 2017, 08:04:23 AM
Fifth Third has shitty payment options too.  Hell also US Bank charges 5 bucks to pay online.

Well crap. I didn't even consider the payment options when I decided on the bank.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Institutional Control on June 08, 2017, 08:10:22 AM
Our house goes on the market today.  :excited:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on June 08, 2017, 08:17:40 AM
Sounds like I'm going to be all alone in waldo after wackycat08 and cf3 move to Olathe
I'm still here
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 08, 2017, 08:55:13 AM
Fifth Third has shitty payment options too.  Hell also US Bank charges 5 bucks to pay online.

Well crap. I didn't even consider the payment options when I decided on the bank.

Take the best rate you can get and make Gooch pay the bill. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 08, 2017, 09:13:50 AM
what are houses in say, Central Hyde Park going for these days?

All fixed up, mid 200s. Not fixed up, mid 100s.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on June 08, 2017, 09:17:09 AM
what are houses in say, Central Hyde Park going for these days?

All fixed up, mid 200s. Not fixed up, mid 100s.

there are currently 11 houses for sale in central hyde park:
198k
215k
375k
425k
500k
615k
739k
749k
900k
950k
1.59M
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 08, 2017, 09:19:02 AM
@michigancat

All fixed up:
$289k
https://www.zillow.com/homes/3711-walnut_rb/ (https://www.zillow.com/homes/3711-walnut_rb/)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on June 08, 2017, 09:20:35 AM
oh pfffft if you're going west of gillham sheesh
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 08, 2017, 09:22:15 AM
what is "central" hyde park? 39th to 33rd Gilham to troost? I don't know the hyde park sub boundaries
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on June 08, 2017, 09:24:53 AM
north hyde park 31st-armour
central hyde park armour-39th
south hyde park 39th-gillham

all bordered by gillham-troost

although what you posted is probably central hyde park. sort of no man's land. idk. that's a really nice house!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on June 08, 2017, 10:16:44 AM
"Parking:  No Data"
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on June 08, 2017, 10:21:48 AM
good thing Walnut is only 1 block from the MAX / future streetcar!  :love:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 08, 2017, 10:33:01 AM
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Take the best rate you can get

Yes, did that.

Quote
make Gooch pay the bill.

He doesn't even know which account to pay the bills from.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 08, 2017, 11:19:12 AM
Our house goes on the market today.  :excited:

haven't you only lived there like 2 years?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on June 08, 2017, 11:28:52 AM
Our house goes on the market today.  :excited:

haven't you only lived there like 2 years?
He barely got the pool filed before moving.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: michigancat on June 08, 2017, 12:00:08 PM
hmm not a lot of single family options in central hyde park. Interesting!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 08, 2017, 12:09:53 PM
is mich done slumming it in san fran
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: michigancat on June 08, 2017, 12:13:49 PM
is mich done slumming it in san fran
Nah just trying to see what a down payment on a house here would compare to an entire house in kc.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on June 08, 2017, 12:21:26 PM
south hyde park is in the 180k-399k range rn

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/fsba,fsbo_lt/house_type/2342072_zpid/1_pnd/39.057575,-94.570752,39.043678,-94.58985_rect/15_zm/0_mmm/ (https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/fsba,fsbo_lt/house_type/2342072_zpid/1_pnd/39.057575,-94.570752,39.043678,-94.58985_rect/15_zm/0_mmm/)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: AbeFroman on June 08, 2017, 12:46:34 PM
good thing Walnut is only 1 block from the MAX / future streetcar!  :love:

 :peek:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: michigancat on June 08, 2017, 01:47:57 PM
south hyde park is in the 180k-399k range rn

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/fsba,fsbo_lt/house_type/2342072_zpid/1_pnd/39.057575,-94.570752,39.043678,-94.58985_rect/15_zm/0_mmm/ (https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/fsba,fsbo_lt/house_type/2342072_zpid/1_pnd/39.057575,-94.570752,39.043678,-94.58985_rect/15_zm/0_mmm/)

that looks really nice. very big and probably expensive to heat/cool though. :frown:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: cfbandyman on June 08, 2017, 02:35:47 PM
south hyde park is in the 180k-399k range rn

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/fsba,fsbo_lt/house_type/2342072_zpid/1_pnd/39.057575,-94.570752,39.043678,-94.58985_rect/15_zm/0_mmm/ (https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/fsba,fsbo_lt/house_type/2342072_zpid/1_pnd/39.057575,-94.570752,39.043678,-94.58985_rect/15_zm/0_mmm/)

that looks really nice. very big and probably expensive to heat/cool though. :frown:

One bath is a deal breaker for me (unless you put a second one, at least half bath, in)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Skipper44 on June 08, 2017, 03:58:22 PM
is mich done slumming it in san fran
Nah just trying to see what a down payment on a house here would compare to an entire house in kc.
do you do public or private school in Oakland?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on June 08, 2017, 04:19:51 PM
Considering building in central Hyde park.


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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 08, 2017, 04:29:58 PM
Considering building in central Hyde park.


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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on June 08, 2017, 04:35:47 PM
That would be horrible cf3
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ChiComCat on June 08, 2017, 04:37:16 PM
Considering building in central Hyde park.


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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on June 08, 2017, 04:40:33 PM
Considering building in central Hyde park.


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https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/fsba,fsbo_lt/house_type/2341327_zpid/1_pnd/globalrelevanceex_sort/39.069896,-94.562266,39.047569,-94.600718_rect/14_zm/0_mmm/ (https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/fsba,fsbo_lt/house_type/2341327_zpid/1_pnd/globalrelevanceex_sort/39.069896,-94.562266,39.047569,-94.600718_rect/14_zm/0_mmm/)
We're actually looking at this lot. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3421-Holmes-St-Kansas-City-MO-64109/2338537_zpid/
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on June 08, 2017, 04:46:36 PM
Considering building in central Hyde park.


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We're actually looking at this lot. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3421-Holmes-St-Kansas-City-MO-64109/2338537_zpid/

that seems like a lot of pressure to build a house that fits in to the neighborhood
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on June 08, 2017, 04:47:45 PM
Considering building in central Hyde park.


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We're actually looking at this lot. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3421-Holmes-St-Kansas-City-MO-64109/2338537_zpid/

that seems like a lot of pressure to build a house that fits in to the neighborhood
It most definitely will not fit into the neighbrohood
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on June 08, 2017, 04:48:46 PM
everyone will hate you.  I can't handle that kind of pressure
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on June 08, 2017, 04:48:54 PM
why would you want to do that?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on June 08, 2017, 04:56:13 PM
(https://image.ibb.co/kLJ52a/kcfdcat_house.jpg)
Title: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on June 08, 2017, 05:00:29 PM
Lol this is the firm we Most likely going to hire: http://studiobuild.com/#/1653-residence/


I seriously doubt anyone on the street is going to care the house isn't identical to the others. The lot has been vacant for years, I'd imagine they'll be happy to get rid of a vacant lot that is currently full of trash
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on June 08, 2017, 05:02:25 PM
why would you want to do that?
That's a really great drawing tho
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on June 08, 2017, 05:05:03 PM
Lol this is the firm we Most likely going to hire: http://studiobuild.com/#/1653-residence/


I seriously doubt anyone on the street is going to care the house isn't identical to the others. The lot has been vacant for years, I'd imagine they'll be happy to get rid of a vacant lot that is currently full of trash

this one is cool. i've seen it. it's at 39th & Holmes

http://studiobuild.com/#/dwelling-3918/ (http://studiobuild.com/#/dwelling-3918/)

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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on June 08, 2017, 05:05:58 PM
Yes I love that house. I've toured a few of their houses and they do really cool stuff


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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 08, 2017, 08:39:30 PM
south hyde park is in the 180k-399k range rn

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/fsba,fsbo_lt/house_type/2342072_zpid/1_pnd/39.057575,-94.570752,39.043678,-94.58985_rect/15_zm/0_mmm/ (https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/fsba,fsbo_lt/house_type/2342072_zpid/1_pnd/39.057575,-94.570752,39.043678,-94.58985_rect/15_zm/0_mmm/)

that looks really nice. very big and probably expensive to heat/cool though. :frown:

Our utilities are like half price!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: michigancat on June 08, 2017, 08:41:29 PM
south hyde park is in the 180k-399k range rn

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/fsba,fsbo_lt/house_type/2342072_zpid/1_pnd/39.057575,-94.570752,39.043678,-94.58985_rect/15_zm/0_mmm/ (https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/fsba,fsbo_lt/house_type/2342072_zpid/1_pnd/39.057575,-94.570752,39.043678,-94.58985_rect/15_zm/0_mmm/)

that looks really nice. very big and probably expensive to heat/cool though. :frown:

Our utilities are like half price!
Half price of what
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 08, 2017, 09:22:13 PM
south hyde park is in the 180k-399k range rn

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/fsba,fsbo_lt/house_type/2342072_zpid/1_pnd/39.057575,-94.570752,39.043678,-94.58985_rect/15_zm/0_mmm/ (https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/fsba,fsbo_lt/house_type/2342072_zpid/1_pnd/39.057575,-94.570752,39.043678,-94.58985_rect/15_zm/0_mmm/)

that looks really nice. very big and probably expensive to heat/cool though. :frown:

Our utilities are like half price!
Half price of what

The coasts.  Maybe less.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: michigancat on June 08, 2017, 09:39:14 PM
south hyde park is in the 180k-399k range rn

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/fsba,fsbo_lt/house_type/2342072_zpid/1_pnd/39.057575,-94.570752,39.043678,-94.58985_rect/15_zm/0_mmm/ (https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/fsba,fsbo_lt/house_type/2342072_zpid/1_pnd/39.057575,-94.570752,39.043678,-94.58985_rect/15_zm/0_mmm/)

that looks really nice. very big and probably expensive to heat/cool though. :frown:

Our utilities are like half price!
Half price of what

The coasts.  Maybe less.

Except I don't have an air conditioner and run the furnace like three months a year. I don't think I've ever spent more than $100/month on gas+electric
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on June 08, 2017, 09:40:38 PM
#headshot #boomroasted
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 09, 2017, 08:22:54 AM
south hyde park is in the 180k-399k range rn

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/fsba,fsbo_lt/house_type/2342072_zpid/1_pnd/39.057575,-94.570752,39.043678,-94.58985_rect/15_zm/0_mmm/ (https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/fsba,fsbo_lt/house_type/2342072_zpid/1_pnd/39.057575,-94.570752,39.043678,-94.58985_rect/15_zm/0_mmm/)

that looks really nice. very big and probably expensive to heat/cool though. :frown:

Our utilities are like half price!
Half price of what

The coasts.  Maybe less.

Except I don't have an air conditioner and run the furnace like three months a year. I don't think I've ever spent more than $100/month on gas+electric

Maybe stay where you are then. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: steve dave on June 09, 2017, 09:05:15 AM
Considering building in central Hyde park.


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how is that priced where it is? is the neighborhood trash or what?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on June 09, 2017, 09:09:09 AM
it's extremely inexpensive to live in kansas city
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: AbeFroman on June 09, 2017, 09:16:55 AM
No that neighborhood is nice. It's around the corner from Janssen place which is :love:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 09, 2017, 09:21:21 AM
Considering building in central Hyde park.


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how is that priced where it is? is the neighborhood trash or what?

You can't send your kids to school
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 10:44:06 AM
Currently looking into OP right now. Pretty exciting stuff. Mrs. Wacky doesn't want Lenexa, but you get more house for the buck, so  we're checking a few houses over there as well.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 20, 2017, 10:45:07 AM
Currently looking into OP right now. Pretty exciting stuff. Mrs. Wacky doesn't want Lenexa, but you get more house for the buck, so  we're checking a few houses over there as well.  :thumbs:

how much house you going for? 2000 sq ft?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 10:51:35 AM
Honestly, IDK. Mrs. Wacky shows me a house and it's in our price range and i'm like "Ya, I like that." "Ya, look at that basement. Weekend football will be perfect for it" etc. I have no idea what i'm doing and it's kinda amazing.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: meow meow on July 20, 2017, 10:52:28 AM
what's your price range?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 20, 2017, 10:53:15 AM
you guys got one of these bad boys picked out yet?

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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 10:53:37 AM
what's your price range?
Not sure if that's too private or not, gonna need a ruling. Not sure how these things work.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 10:54:37 AM
you guys got one of these bad boys picked out yet?

(https://stoneworxsigns.com/engraved-stone/ksu36_medium.jpg)
Yeah, but I got it personally made so willie is pissing on the jayhawk .  :Keke:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: meow meow on July 20, 2017, 10:54:52 AM
ok nevermind,  i'd try to get a 4 BR out in the burbs, be easier for resale than 3 BR.  good luck
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 20, 2017, 10:56:12 AM
what's your price range?
Not sure if that's too private or not, gonna need a ruling. Not sure how these things work.

i would just say "thousands of dollars"
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 10:56:46 AM
I like your thinking, M^2.  :thumbs: It's funny how many houses our agent tries to throw at us in Spring Hill and Gardner. It's amazing how many ppl live out there.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on July 20, 2017, 10:57:02 AM
you guys got one of these bad boys picked out yet?

(https://stoneworxsigns.com/engraved-stone/ksu36_medium.jpg)

Man, it's kind of amazing how much better our logo is
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Phil Titola on July 20, 2017, 10:57:22 AM
Honestly, IDK. Mrs. Wacky shows me a house and it's in our price range and i'm like "Ya, I like that." "Ya, look at that basement. Weekend football will be perfect for it" etc. I have no idea what i'm doing and it's kinda amazing.
Location trumps most square footage for the dollar every time.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 10:58:42 AM
Yeah, I know. It's just silly. You might as well live in Emporia.  :Yuck:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 11:03:29 AM
What do we think of this? It obviously needs a paint job. Green is disgusting. http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/12831-W-99th-St_Lenexa_KS_66215_M79802-19450
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Phil Titola on July 20, 2017, 11:05:22 AM
What do we think of this? It obviously needs a paint job. Green is disgusting. http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/12831-W-99th-St_Lenexa_KS_66215_M79802-19450
I knew people that lives around there a decade ago and it wasn't a great neighborhood....I think the surrounding apartments are sketch.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on July 20, 2017, 11:07:41 AM
My bud lives a few blocks from that and it's fine
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: meow meow on July 20, 2017, 11:10:11 AM
i'm not a fan of split levels, lot of wasted space and small rooms imo
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 11:12:00 AM
i'm not a fan of split levels, lot of wasted space and small rooms imo
Something I would have never thought of.

Also, at this point in my life i've already accepted that i'll be murdered in my sleep in my house. It might as well be in Lenexa.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 20, 2017, 11:13:42 AM
What do we think of this? It obviously needs a paint job. Green is disgusting. http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/12831-W-99th-St_Lenexa_KS_66215_M79802-19450

you can do better. too many doors
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: SdK on July 20, 2017, 11:15:08 AM
Say no to that house.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on July 20, 2017, 11:16:08 AM
The 70's through mid 90's are the garbagest houses around, unfortunately you'll find roughly half a million of them in lenexa and op
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: meow meow on July 20, 2017, 11:16:56 AM
realtor.com has a pretty decent app to see what's all out there
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 20, 2017, 11:17:58 AM
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/15921-W-149th-St_Olathe_KS_66062_M80345-56680#photo1 (http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/15921-W-149th-St_Olathe_KS_66062_M80345-56680#photo1)

Something like that Wackster, although this one says show for backups. If you like split levels go for one like this. You replace that ugly carpet and redo a few things and its a p good house
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 11:18:45 AM
Thanks guys. It's an open house tonight, so Mrs. Wacky wanted to stop by. This is our first stop, so there will be many more to come.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 20, 2017, 11:19:35 AM
Thanks guys. It's an open house tonight, so Mrs. Wacky wanted to stop by. This is our first stop, so there will be many more to come.

dude if you're not rushed, just go to every open house you can find this weekend. you'll start to know what you really do and do not want
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: cfbandyman on July 20, 2017, 11:19:44 AM
Yeah, that house isn't great, also too close to 35 for me (lots of highway noise).

Agreed with all the split level comments, I'm more partial to ranches anyways (even though my house is Cape Cod style so it has a 2nd floor). Too many accidents happen on stairs (especially with little ones), split levels compound that situation.

Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on July 20, 2017, 11:20:16 AM
149th? Is that in Oklahoma?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 20, 2017, 11:20:33 AM
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/12522-W-85th-Ter_Lenexa_KS_66215_M79438-13375#photo0

Check out the mirrors above the master bed. :gocho:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 11:21:40 AM
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/12522-W-85th-Ter_Lenexa_KS_66215_M79438-13375#photo0

Check out the mirrors above the master bed. :gocho:
Wow! Great find!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Phil Titola on July 20, 2017, 11:22:49 AM
Do this....it's a house technically

415 E 5th St in Downtown Kansas City, Kansas City, MO 64106

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/415-E-5th-St_Kansas-City_MO_64106_M85074-65278
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 20, 2017, 11:23:03 AM
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/12522-W-85th-Ter_Lenexa_KS_66215_M79438-13375#photo0

Check out the mirrors above the master bed. :gocho:

that is the weirdest layout of 2100 sq ft in north america
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 11:23:54 AM
Do this....it's a house technically

415 E 5th St in Downtown Kansas City, Kansas City, MO 64106

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/415-E-5th-St_Kansas-City_MO_64106_M85074-65278
Man, I use to drive by that bad boy a lot.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 20, 2017, 11:25:11 AM
Do this....it's a house technically

415 E 5th St in Downtown Kansas City, Kansas City, MO 64106

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/415-E-5th-St_Kansas-City_MO_64106_M85074-65278

bro do you realize the parking hassle and crazy drivers down there? wackster needs a nice quiet street away from all that
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 11:26:33 AM
When I got married and turned 32, I literally jumped to 70 mentally.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on July 20, 2017, 11:29:07 AM
have you gotten preapproved yet to see if she has like a 300 credit score and 30k in cc debt she's hidden from you?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: cfbandyman on July 20, 2017, 11:30:14 AM
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/12522-W-85th-Ter_Lenexa_KS_66215_M79438-13375#photo0

Check out the mirrors above the master bed. :gocho:

So. Much. Wood. Kitchen would need to be toned down.

That deck out back though is pretty boss though.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 11:31:02 AM
have you gotten preapproved yet to see if she has like a 300 credit score and 30k in cc debt she's hidden from you?
lol. Yes, we're good. My credit is amazing guys. Won't it get dinged if we don't buy something in 90 days tho? :frown:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on July 20, 2017, 11:32:26 AM
wasn't worried about you, wacks :thumbs:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 20, 2017, 11:32:49 AM
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/12522-W-85th-Ter_Lenexa_KS_66215_M79438-13375#photo0

Check out the mirrors above the master bed. :gocho:

So. Much. Wood. Kitchen would need to be toned down.

That deck out back though is pretty boss though.

Everything about that house is over the top. It's awesome.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 11:33:03 AM
Haha. I know. She's good.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on July 20, 2017, 11:33:53 AM
omg that mirror thing lmao
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 11:34:43 AM
That room was made for rough ridin'!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 11:37:32 AM
Could you imagine giving your father in law a tour and then walking in that room and looking at him with a straight face afterwards?  :lol: I just thought about that.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 20, 2017, 11:37:47 AM
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/12522-W-85th-Ter_Lenexa_KS_66215_M79438-13375#photo0

Check out the mirrors above the master bed. :gocho:

I like how the deck overlooks the neighbors roof.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: meow meow on July 20, 2017, 11:46:49 AM
do you have an agent wacky?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 20, 2017, 11:48:37 AM
Wackster you gonna get a custom built wood sign for the basement that says "Wildcats Lair" or whatever?  :pray:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 20, 2017, 12:50:22 PM
Could you imagine giving your father in law a tour and then walking in that room and looking at him with a straight face afterwards?  :lol: I just thought about that.

 :lol:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 01:14:29 PM
do you have an agent wacky?
Yeah, family member of Mrs. Wacky's.
Wackster you gonna get a custom built wood sign for the basement that says "Wildcats Lair" or whatever?  :pray:
I AM NOW!  :love:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on July 20, 2017, 01:22:57 PM
Wackster you gonna get a custom built wood sign for the basement that says "Wildcats Lair" or whatever?  :pray:
LIVE - LOVE - LAUGH
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 20, 2017, 01:33:40 PM
Wackster you gonna get a custom built wood sign for the basement that says "Wildcats Lair" or whatever?  :pray:
LIVE - LOVE - LAUGH

well yeah that's a given
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on July 20, 2017, 01:34:50 PM
It's too bad wackycat08 wasn't looking back when bitbmom was selling
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 20, 2017, 01:35:02 PM
one of these bad boys for the kitchen

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eiforces.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F07%2Fcute-kitchen-decor-themes-coffee-coffee-wall-decor-pictures-of-photo-albums-decor-jpg-kitchen.jpg&hash=41eae89c9b745c4e8084ade057b63f5ce84d860c)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 01:36:36 PM
We IRL have these in our living room right now. It's surrounded by wedding pics and junk

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/ea/da/29/eada29ea549bf6c2f48588dbf359c88c.jpg)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 01:37:01 PM
It's too bad wackycat08 wasn't looking back when bitbmom was selling
Oh man. That would have been great.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on July 20, 2017, 01:39:42 PM
We IRL have these in our living room right now. It's surrounding by wedding pics and junk

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/ea/da/29/eada29ea549bf6c2f48588dbf359c88c.jpg)
Why do you decorate your house with the names of neighborhoods you hate living in?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 01:41:15 PM
We IRL have these in our living room right now. It's surrounding by wedding pics and junk

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/ea/da/29/eada29ea549bf6c2f48588dbf359c88c.jpg)
Why do you decorate your house with the names of neighborhoods you hate living in?
It's a love/hate relationship. I love to hate them, because I love them too much.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: SdK on July 20, 2017, 01:41:33 PM
Do this....it's a house technically

415 E 5th St in Downtown Kansas City, Kansas City, MO 64106

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/415-E-5th-St_Kansas-City_MO_64106_M85074-65278
Get this one.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 01:43:29 PM
Favorite places in KC:

1. Downtown
2. Plaza
3. Westport

Bottom 3:

1. Independence
2. Olathe
3. North KC
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on July 20, 2017, 01:43:34 PM


I'm more partial to ranches

Was this a parody post?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: dmartin on July 20, 2017, 01:45:45 PM
That room was made for rough ridin'!

damn rough ridin' right!!

And that staircase looks like something some 10 year old designed in minecraft. (but I like it)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Phil Titola on July 20, 2017, 01:47:55 PM
Make sure to get some of those stick on words that say "enjoy the journey" or "I love us" for the eat in dining room....

Oh and I hear a white rock in front will make you friends quickly....dunno
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 01:52:20 PM
I've been trying to convince Mrs. wacky on white rock stuff for years. It's a nog o.  :frown:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 20, 2017, 02:05:06 PM
buying a house in the kc area just seems depressing
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on July 20, 2017, 02:07:59 PM
buying a house in the kc area just seems depressing
It's just like everywhere else except cheaper
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on July 20, 2017, 02:10:17 PM
seems like a staggering amount of split levels
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on July 20, 2017, 02:20:16 PM
seems like a staggering amount of split levels
Well in Joco yeah
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 20, 2017, 02:24:36 PM
Buying a house anywhere is a lot of fun.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: SdK on July 20, 2017, 02:45:01 PM
Favorite places in KC:

1. Downtown
2. Plaza
3. Westport

Bottom 3:

1. Independence
2. Olathe
3. North KC
I think I work in Independence. But I think I live in a Westportish area.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 02:46:53 PM
I worked near Independence when I worked at ITT. Super trashy area, but it is what it is. Westportish area is great! Especially for a single guy.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Skipper44 on July 20, 2017, 03:05:25 PM
Wacky, why are you looking at Lenexa and not the Z peoples Shawnee homeland?  Also, the best schools are in the newer hoods unless you are buying SME area so look farther west in Lenexa and Shawnee
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on July 20, 2017, 03:08:59 PM
West of K7 is Wacky's ideal spot imo
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 03:09:34 PM
Wacky, why are you looking at Lenexa and not the Z peoples Shawnee homeland?  Also, the best schools are in the newer hoods unless you are buying SME area so look farther west in Lenexa and Shawnee
Funny you mention the Z's, one of them is actually our agent. That family is close, i'm a lil afraid they'd stop by all the time. Not that there's a problem with that, but everyone likes their own space, right? I guess it doesn't really matter tho. Lenexa is almost just as close.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on July 20, 2017, 03:10:34 PM
Any school in joco will be great, don't let that influence any decision, good grief
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 03:10:43 PM
West of K7 is Wacky's ideal spot imo
:Yuck: Desoto, Eudora, tongi, etc. White trash paradises.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Skipper44 on July 20, 2017, 03:15:53 PM
Any school in joco will be great, don't let that influence any decision, good grief
they are all much better than the national average but some are better than others and resale values reflect that. 

Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Skipper44 on July 20, 2017, 03:18:05 PM
part of it is Kstate Kathy and Pi Phi Patty helping in your kids classroom all the time is a big positive
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 03:21:01 PM
West of K7 is Wacky's ideal spot imo
:Yuck: Desoto, Eudora, tongi, etc. White trash paradises.
This IRL is Tornado alley too. If there's a tornado out there right now, it's probably hanging out in Tongi as we speak.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: SdK on July 20, 2017, 03:23:41 PM
I worked near Independence when I worked at ITT. Super trashy area, but it is what it is. Westportish area is great! Especially for a single guy.

I'll be sleeping on a futon at my friends house. Not the best spot for picking up the ladies.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Institutional Control on July 20, 2017, 03:24:00 PM
I wonder if Jason Whitlock's old house is for sale. I could totally see Wacky in the hot tub at that place.


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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 03:26:24 PM
I worked near Independence when I worked at ITT. Super trashy area, but it is what it is. Westportish area is great! Especially for a single guy.

I'll be sleeping on a futon at my friends house. Not the best spot for picking up the ladies.
Meh. I was picking up chicks when I was living with my parents here in KC. Just stay at their house, friend.

I wonder if Jason Whitlock's old house is for sale. I could totally see Wacky in the hot tub at that place.


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That sounds amazing!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: SdK on July 20, 2017, 03:32:20 PM
Good call, Wacky! I just hope they aren't also staying on the futon of someone they dated last summer.  :ROFL:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Tobias on July 20, 2017, 03:58:12 PM
I wonder if Jason Whitlock's old house is for sale. I could totally see Wacky in the hot tub at that place.


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:frown:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Big Train on July 20, 2017, 09:36:58 PM
Hot tub is long gone
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2017, 09:43:40 PM
That green house was really nice, guys. Actually pretty cool tbh. Agent "thinks it won't last the weekend for that price". First house we've walked into, so she knew we'd pass, but it was still kinda cool. Great deck, man cave, etc. exterior sucks tho.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: IPA4Me on July 21, 2017, 03:31:16 PM
You youngsters need to be thinking a little further down the road.

WTF wants to walk up ten stairs every time you bring in the groceries?

Two steps from the garage to the mudroom or foyer.

Definitely avoid the split levels.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 21, 2017, 03:36:49 PM
Mrs. Wacky mentioned she hated split steps too. I honestly don't have a problem with it.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on July 21, 2017, 03:45:39 PM
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/15921-W-149th-St_Olathe_KS_66062_M80345-56680#photo1 (http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/15921-W-149th-St_Olathe_KS_66062_M80345-56680#photo1)

Something like that Wackster, although this one says show for backups. If you like split levels go for one like this. You replace that ugly carpet and redo a few things and its a p good house

i don't think it's called a split level if you don't have to immediately walk up or down when you walk in the front door.

edit: nvm looks like you kind of do
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: tdaver on July 21, 2017, 08:17:07 PM
Split Entry (wacky link) vs Split Level (cf3 link)

Get it together guys
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on July 21, 2017, 08:44:44 PM
Split entry was probably invented by a squawk arch grad
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: IPA4Me on July 21, 2017, 09:19:18 PM
Both suck.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on July 21, 2017, 09:20:28 PM
Traditional two story brick or GTFO
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 22, 2017, 09:17:41 PM
Traditional two story brick or GTFO

Sort of depends on how many kids you are going to have.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2017, 11:16:45 AM
We put in a offer, guys! :pray: :crossfingers:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 28, 2017, 11:22:47 AM
We put in a offer, guys! :pray: :crossfingers:

it's on the green house isn't it?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ben ji on July 28, 2017, 11:25:13 AM
We put in a offer, guys! :pray: :crossfingers:

159th and blackbob?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2017, 11:25:45 AM
Damn, you're good Mikey. We've seen 20 plus houses for our price range and we came back to the very 1st one. There's literally nothing to do to it. Awesome gameday basement. Huge backyard for get togethers, etc.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2017, 11:30:50 AM
I've let Mrs. Wacky kinda run the house from day 1, but I made her comeback to this one. She hates plit entries and I told her to get th eff over it. It's a first buyer house. close to the highway, the mall, etc. In the OP and not too close to the fam. We'll just have to paint it. I was a painter in HS too.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: meow meow on July 28, 2017, 11:48:02 AM
you should just bump up your budget, get a 30 year, will end up only paying a little bit more each month, and not have to live in a split level, but that's just me
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2017, 11:53:40 AM
That's fair. I've just over payed for rings, new car, etc. This is kind of my first big move in the marriage. I don't care about split entry to be honest. The house on the inside is pretty awesome. Great starter home.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: meow meow on July 28, 2017, 12:17:23 PM
hope you get it
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2017, 12:29:09 PM
Thanks bud
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: cfbandyman on July 28, 2017, 12:38:44 PM
If you end up getting it, congrats, and get ready to sign your name more times than you've ever done in your life.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2017, 12:49:44 PM
Good day to have off. Thank god for e signatures. You think a squawk previous owner bring bad sp* joo joo?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on July 28, 2017, 12:52:07 PM
I don't see what Saul has to do with this
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on July 28, 2017, 12:52:44 PM
i just can't believe a split level in lenexa was previously owned by a squawk
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2017, 12:53:32 PM
I don't see what Saul has to do with this
:lol:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2017, 12:55:45 PM
i just can't believe a split level in lenexa was previously owned by a squawk
:)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: SdK on July 28, 2017, 01:09:05 PM
Damn, you're good Mikey. We've seen 20 plus houses for our price range and we came back to the very 1st one. There's literally nothing to do to it. Awesome gameday basement. Huge backyard for get togethers, etc.
So your personal address for the family is on gE and surely will make it to the Phog? :(
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: SdK on July 28, 2017, 01:10:24 PM
Congrats though WC!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2017, 01:13:05 PM
I've always invited phog ppl to meet me IRL. Either way, whatevs. You of all ppl should appreciate that I'm being as open as I am.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2017, 01:14:27 PM
I will say tho, we both have credit in the 800's and only got approved in the 200's. Is that normal?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: SdK on July 28, 2017, 01:23:19 PM
I've always invited phog ppl to meet me IRL. Either way, whatevs. You of all ppl should appreciate that I'm being as open as I am.
It wasn't a slight or a dig. I think my address is the one thing I wouldn't share online. Maybe pm that action. Either way, congrats.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: SdK on July 28, 2017, 01:23:59 PM
I will say tho, we both have credit in the 800's and only got approved in the 200's. Is that normal?
Might depend on income and length of time at current jobs?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2017, 01:26:13 PM
Understandable


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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2017, 01:26:43 PM
I will say tho, we both have credit in the 800's and only got approved in the 200's. Is that normal?
Might depend on income and length of time at current jobs?




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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 28, 2017, 01:27:12 PM
Staying out of Olathe is the important thing
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2017, 01:30:27 PM
Yeah, Mrs wacky was at hallmark for 9 years before chasing a higher pay. I out produce my folks at 32 right now. Been there for 2 years, but I've never had this type of job security in my life. Did lunch with my CEO last Saturday and she went to my reception. We're in for the long haul at this point. I've never been this happy in my life. Big banks can't see that tho


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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: SdK on July 28, 2017, 01:31:51 PM
When it comes time to move, feel free to drop me a pm. I'll help if I'm available. Strict no packing or unpacking clause though. :)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on July 28, 2017, 01:34:39 PM
Let me know when you want to build a proper bar in that brocave
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: meow meow on July 28, 2017, 01:50:22 PM
let me know when you want to have a beer, i'll be busy, but let me know
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 28, 2017, 01:54:05 PM
I will say tho, we both have credit in the 800's and only got approved in the 200's. Is that normal?
only two of you and I doubt that's your forever home so wtf would you want a bigger house or to pay more?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on July 28, 2017, 01:55:11 PM
let me know when you want to have a beer, i'll be busy, but let me know

 :lol:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on July 28, 2017, 01:57:51 PM
Inappropriate
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: AppleJack on July 28, 2017, 02:04:21 PM
I have a mansion.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: meow meow on July 28, 2017, 02:09:52 PM
I will say tho, we both have credit in the 800's and only got approved in the 200's. Is that normal?
only two of you and I doubt that's your forever home so wtf would you want a bigger house or to pay more?

you know that wacky is gonna become besties with KU Karl next door, they sit out in the driveway and drink beers by the firepit every saturday night.  every time they think about moving to a bigger house, wacky just can't let go of the sweet set up he has, and Karl.  we'll just stay in this house one more year he says. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ew2x4 on July 28, 2017, 02:27:25 PM
We're looking to sell/buy soon. We got pre-qualified (not pre-approved, same thing, just not formalized) to borrow $500k.

Granted, you could easily spend that here in CO, but still. It's crazy.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: wetwillie on July 28, 2017, 02:38:35 PM
Sounds like the lenders are back to pre 2008 shenanigans
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 28, 2017, 02:43:57 PM
Sounds like the lenders are back to pre 2008 shenanigans
this seems a bit true.. the house we just bought we had 30k in equity to begin with on it according to the appraisal vs purchase price. and they immediately asked me if I wanted a HELOC
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2017, 02:56:34 PM
let me know when you want to have a beer, i'll be busy, but let me know

 :lol:
:ROFL:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2017, 02:58:20 PM
Can't wait to meet Karl.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2017, 03:00:13 PM
I will say tho, we both have credit in the 800's and only got approved in the 200's. Is that normal?
only two of you and I doubt that's your forever home so wtf would you want a bigger house or to pay more?
Fair point. I don't want to pay for one.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: meow meow on July 28, 2017, 03:00:55 PM
he'll probably come mow your yard at least once a year, when you're out of town.   you'll probably catch a few royals game together, and when your wives are out of town or having girls night, you two will probably belly up at Johnny's Tavern.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2017, 03:02:30 PM
 :love:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2017, 03:07:00 PM
Karl sounds like someone I could PI about KU football renovations and he'd lol until the big KSU-KU bball game.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ew2x4 on July 28, 2017, 03:08:58 PM
They are definitely more loose with lending. Part of it is Colorado's housing market is that crazy so they may need to be a bit more loose. Part of it is a credit score of 829 (suck it WC).
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Institutional Control on July 28, 2017, 03:15:31 PM
I will say tho, we both have credit in the 800's and only got approved in the 200's. Is that normal?

The general rule is 3 times your income. Unless you make a combined $90k or less, that's not normal.  They may be accounting for how much money you plan to put down.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2017, 03:16:13 PM
The only reason my credit is so good is for paying a massive amount on private loans per month. Nice work we2x4. I guess that and the cc thread @stevedave provided.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 28, 2017, 03:17:37 PM
I will say tho, we both have credit in the 800's and only got approved in the 200's. Is that normal?

The general rule is 3 times your income. Unless you make a combined $90k or less, that's not normal.  They may be accounting for how much money you plan to put down.
Yeah, we make way over that. It's gotta be school debt.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: SPEmaw on July 28, 2017, 03:41:52 PM
I will say tho, we both have credit in the 800's and only got approved in the 200's. Is that normal?

Credit score has more to do with the rate you're able to get than the overall amount the lender approves you for. Your household income, contingent liabilities, debt-to-income ratio, etc. contribute more to the amount of the loan you qualify for.

Regarding the 3x income theory - a lesson I have been told was to keep your rent/mortgage < 30% of your monthly disposable income.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Kat Kid on July 29, 2017, 10:21:47 AM
I will say tho, we both have credit in the 800's and only got approved in the 200's. Is that normal?

Credit score has more to do with the rate you're able to get than the overall amount the lender approves you for. Your household income, contingent liabilities, debt-to-income ratio, etc. contribute more to the amount of the loan you qualify for.

Regarding the 3x income theory - a lesson I have been told was to keep your rent/mortgage < 30% of your monthly disposable income.

This is a great rule for college towns and suburban midwest livin.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 29, 2017, 12:00:04 PM
They look at total debt-to-income ratio. I think the rule is usually around 43%.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 'taterblast on August 01, 2017, 09:28:15 PM
security system recommendo's plz tia
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Institutional Control on August 01, 2017, 09:36:10 PM
security system recommendo's plz tia
I have a SkyBell, it works great.


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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 'taterblast on August 01, 2017, 09:42:37 PM
ok but it's not even on this random list i found NEXT

http://www.asecurelife.com/best-home-security-system/
 (http://www.asecurelife.com/best-home-security-system/)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on August 01, 2017, 10:02:48 PM
12ga
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: puniraptor on August 01, 2017, 10:04:25 PM
dirty sneaks outside your door
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: SdK on August 01, 2017, 10:06:47 PM
Buy a gun or two. Yw.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Brock Landers on August 01, 2017, 10:19:23 PM
Pit bull for the front and back yard.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Big Train on August 01, 2017, 10:21:32 PM
I've heard nest thermostat is a good brand
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 01, 2017, 11:56:25 PM
Just get one of those cameras that you can operate from your phone.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: IPA4Me on August 02, 2017, 07:12:09 AM
I have two Nest outdoor cameras and a skybell. 9mm and a 12ga if they decide to ignore the cameras.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: pissclams on August 02, 2017, 07:49:30 AM
best security is an adt security sign and a german shepherd
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Gooch on August 02, 2017, 08:01:29 AM
ok but it's not even on this random list i found NEXT

http://www.asecurelife.com/best-home-security-system/
 (http://www.asecurelife.com/best-home-security-system/)
I got Cox for $3/month in a bundle. Two year contract tho. It has the full automation functionality too. You do have to get expensive wifi light bulbs if you want that function. Most any wifi enabled thermostat and garage doors work with them.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 02, 2017, 08:08:07 AM
best security is an adt security sign and a german shepherd
I was coming here to say this. Our system is down, but we have that sign, dammit! :lol:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on August 02, 2017, 09:17:23 AM
must be awful living in kc or Wichita
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: IPA4Me on August 02, 2017, 10:13:09 AM
Meth heads are everywhere. :(
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on August 02, 2017, 10:19:01 AM
must be awful living in kc or Wichita

I don't even lock my doors  :dunno:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 02, 2017, 10:21:34 AM
must be awful living in kc or Wichita
I guess I would rather have random drunk kids passing out in my house because they think it's theirs vs. #KCMO stuff.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on August 02, 2017, 10:26:24 AM
must be awful living in kc or Wichita

I don't even lock my doors  :dunno:
me neither, although! I had an issue with my a/c and wasn't home yet and the a/c guy let himself in.... that def. pissed me off. I think my bigger dog could tell too because when I let them inside he was ready to chew his face off and he's never been like that.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on August 02, 2017, 10:27:54 AM
must be awful living in kc or Wichita
I guess I would rather have random drunk kids passing out in my house because they think it's theirs vs. #KCMO stuff.
I'd have to great that kid with a busch latte in the morning.. if the whole dogs chewing his face off didn't already happen
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 02, 2017, 10:28:23 AM
 :lol: :thumbs:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: XocolateThundarr on August 02, 2017, 11:14:42 AM
Do not....I repeat....do not use Vivint.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Phil Titola on August 02, 2017, 03:32:25 PM
I have the blink system. Cameras are completely wireless and last two years on two AAs. It's like a poor man's Arlo but really only wanted it to scope out when I got packages so wasn't worried about all the DVR stuff.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 01:55:59 PM
Pay attention to payment options when choosing your lender. It is turning out to be a PITA to pay my new mortgage payment. (Probably wouldn't have mattered because I would have gone with the lowest rate anyway, but I just wanted to complain.)
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on August 22, 2017, 02:24:27 PM
Pay attention to payment options when choosing your lender. It is turning out to be a PITA to pay my new mortgage payment. (Probably wouldn't have mattered because I would have gone with the lowest rate anyway, but I just wanted to complain.)
whys that? just curious. my two places are both just set up on auto pay
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 02:31:40 PM
Pay attention to payment options when choosing your lender. It is turning out to be a PITA to pay my new mortgage payment. (Probably wouldn't have mattered because I would have gone with the lowest rate anyway, but I just wanted to complain.)
whys that? just curious. my two places are both just set up on auto pay

Well I am setting it up on AutoPay but that takes 30 days so I have to make the first payment. And I don't have a check or debit card for the account I want to pay it from (because I usually do everything electronic with this account).

Also, if I want to pay extra some months that is going to be a PITA too.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: yoga-like_abana on August 22, 2017, 02:35:42 PM
Pay attention to payment options when choosing your lender. It is turning out to be a PITA to pay my new mortgage payment. (Probably wouldn't have mattered because I would have gone with the lowest rate anyway, but I just wanted to complain.)
whys that? just curious. my two places are both just set up on auto pay

Well I am setting it up on AutoPay but that takes 30 days so I have to make the first payment. And I don't have a check or debit card for the account I want to pay it from (because I usually do everything electronic with this account).

Also, if I want to pay extra some months that is going to be a PITA too.
Yeah, the last part is why I made 100% sure my local bank wasn't going to sell my mortgage off to someone else.
Although the teller one time made my extra payment as a regular payment rather than a principal only payment and it totally mumped me over.. Somehow it made it look like I hadn't made that payment for the next month.. It was eventually corrected but it took a couple of months as well as them having to correct my credit.. I'm usually a pretty easy going person but that absolutely drove me bonkers
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 02:39:05 PM
WTF kind of a bank doesn't have online payment capability in 2017?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 02:42:56 PM
Pay attention to payment options when choosing your lender. It is turning out to be a PITA to pay my new mortgage payment. (Probably wouldn't have mattered because I would have gone with the lowest rate anyway, but I just wanted to complain.)
whys that? just curious. my two places are both just set up on auto pay

Well I am setting it up on AutoPay but that takes 30 days so I have to make the first payment. And I don't have a check or debit card for the account I want to pay it from (because I usually do everything electronic with this account).

Also, if I want to pay extra some months that is going to be a PITA too.
Yeah, the last part is why I made 100% sure my local bank wasn't going to sell my mortgage off to someone else.
Although the teller one time made my extra payment as a regular payment rather than a principal only payment and it totally mumped me over.. Somehow it made it look like I hadn't made that payment for the next month.. It was eventually corrected but it took a couple of months as well as them having to correct my credit.. I'm usually a pretty easy going person but that absolutely drove me bonkers

Happened on a car loan once with a local credit union and it was like how rough ridin' hard is this to correct jeez
Title: buying a house
Post by: catastrophe on August 22, 2017, 03:45:24 PM
There is really no way to know or control who is going to own your mortgage. If you're a super attractive debtor like yours truly it will get scooped up within a week by one of the big dogs like JP Morgan / Chase and never let go.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 03:45:58 PM
There is really no way to know or control who is going to own your mortgage. If you're a super attractive debtor like yours truly it will get scooped up within a week by JP Morgan / Chase and never let go.

Well our bank told us they keep all mortgage loans in house.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: catastrophe on August 22, 2017, 03:49:34 PM
Did they put that in writing?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 03:51:16 PM
Did they put that in writing?

Yeah, I think it was on one of the papers when we closed.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2017, 03:56:25 PM
Capitol federal doesn't sell loans
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Big Train on August 22, 2017, 03:59:38 PM
Post the papers so we can make sure
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 22, 2017, 04:02:06 PM
Post the papers so we can make sure

Why don't I just give you my account number so you can login and check?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: The Big Train on August 22, 2017, 04:02:25 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: catastrophe on August 22, 2017, 04:07:27 PM
I believe you, I'm just surprised they wouldn't give themselves the option to unload it. Kind of sucks for them if the market tanks.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 10, 2017, 07:44:36 PM
This place is pretty amaze balls. Can't wait to host some Pak's.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 'taterblast on May 07, 2018, 10:53:05 AM
need kitchen appliance pro tips

looking for fridge (french door, water dispenser) / range (slide in gas) /dishwasher

any horror stories/brands to avoid? times to get best deals?
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: puniraptor on May 07, 2018, 06:09:22 PM
need kitchen appliance pro tips

looking for fridge (french door, water dispenser) / range (slide in gas) /dishwasher

any horror stories/brands to avoid? times to get best deals?

don't get hyped out of your mind and spend way too much just because of the purpleish LEDs and dark grey satin interior and way too big

also research the most silent and durable compressors.
avoid kitchenaide branded fridges
look for linear compressors
also go for counter depth
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on May 07, 2018, 10:52:37 PM
need kitchen appliance pro tips

looking for fridge (french door, water dispenser) / range (slide in gas) /dishwasher

any horror stories/brands to avoid? times to get best deals?

Don’t use Frigidaire. Samsung is good, so is LG.


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Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ednksu on May 07, 2018, 11:19:04 PM
need kitchen appliance pro tips

looking for fridge (french door, water dispenser) / range (slide in gas) /dishwasher

any horror stories/brands to avoid? times to get best deals?

Don’t use Frigidaire. Samsung is good, so is LG.


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I use to like the cut of your jib.  Recommending Samsung appliances?  That's a bridge too far. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 08, 2018, 08:34:38 AM
need kitchen appliance pro tips

looking for fridge (french door, water dispenser) / range (slide in gas) /dishwasher

any horror stories/brands to avoid? times to get best deals?

Don’t use Frigidaire. Samsung is good, so is LG.


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Samsung has a poor reputation.    Go down about any clearance/ scratch and dent aisle and you'll see lots of Samsung returns.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: mocat on May 08, 2018, 09:13:33 AM
i'm glad you're getting a gas range blast.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 'taterblast on May 08, 2018, 10:22:18 AM
yeah see i'm steering away from Samsung because at SeaTac a few months ago i heard a really loud guy talking about how you shouldn't buy your appliances from the same company that you buy your tv's and that really stuck with me
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 'taterblast on May 08, 2018, 10:23:48 AM
also go for counter depth

why? i have a cut out for a full size
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 'taterblast on May 08, 2018, 10:27:02 AM
i'm glad you're getting a gas range blast.

i'm a big fan of gas but have you seen induction cook tops? i got a demo of one and they're pretty amazing. still going with gas tho.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 8manpick on May 08, 2018, 10:56:37 AM
Here you go: http://www.subzero-wolf.com/wolf/ranges/gas-range/36-inch-gas-range-4-burners-infrared-charbroiler
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 'taterblast on May 08, 2018, 11:07:05 AM
too expensive
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Skipper44 on May 08, 2018, 01:32:29 PM
After 10+ years with a 30 inch viking gas range the only issue was $200 for new heating elements for the oven about 5 years in. 
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: ednksu on May 08, 2018, 01:58:04 PM
yeah see i'm steering away from Samsung because at SeaTac a few months ago i heard a really loud guy talking about how you shouldn't buy your appliances from the same company that you buy your tv's and that really stuck with me
Nah, they're just piles of crap.  Cool features, till the components that do the work crap the bed.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 08, 2018, 02:59:45 PM
After 10+ years with a 30 inch viking gas range the only issue was $200 for new heating elements for the oven about 5 years in.

and in that 10 years you could have replaced the original consumer brand twice and still paid less than half
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Skipper44 on May 08, 2018, 08:14:45 PM
After 10+ years with a 30 inch viking gas range the only issue was $200 for new heating elements for the oven about 5 years in.

and in that 10 years you could have replaced the original consumer brand twice and still paid less than half
this is definitely it's best attribute
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: KCFDcat on May 10, 2018, 02:50:03 PM
need kitchen appliance pro tips

looking for fridge (french door, water dispenser) / range (slide in gas) /dishwasher

any horror stories/brands to avoid? times to get best deals?

Don’t use Frigidaire. Samsung is good, so is LG.


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I use to like the cut of your jib.  Recommending Samsung appliances?  That's a bridge too far.
Well, all I know is we’ve loved our Samsung stuff and had to replace the entire package of Frigidaire appliances after 18 mos.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: chum1 on September 03, 2018, 07:41:42 PM
Quote
This home sits at the end of the road providing maximum privacy, with no "big brother" in this area telling you what to do

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/235-235a-Ghost-Elk-Ct-Pagosa-Springs-CO-81147/2088929429_zpid/
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: 8manpick on September 03, 2018, 08:57:28 PM
Quote
This home sits at the end of the road providing maximum privacy, with no "big brother" in this area telling you what to do

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/235-235a-Ghost-Elk-Ct-Pagosa-Springs-CO-81147/2088929429_zpid/
Looks great!
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 04, 2018, 10:59:31 AM
Quote
This home sits at the end of the road providing maximum privacy, with no "big brother" in this area telling you what to do

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/235-235a-Ghost-Elk-Ct-Pagosa-Springs-CO-81147/2088929429_zpid/
Looks great!

the bathtub sitch is awful, and I mean, buy some caulk and touch up paint FFS.
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: HerrSonntag on September 04, 2018, 04:34:57 PM
Quote
This home sits at the end of the road providing maximum privacy, with no "big brother" in this area telling you what to do

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/235-235a-Ghost-Elk-Ct-Pagosa-Springs-CO-81147/2088929429_zpid/
Looks great!

the bathtub sitch is awful, and I mean, buy some caulk and touch up paint FFS.
I love the colorado springs area, just wish it wasn't so far away from KS/any airports
Title: Re: buying a house
Post by: chum1 on September 04, 2018, 07:25:52 PM
I just thought the quote was funny. But I drove through a couple of those valleys west of Colorado Springs over the summer and, man, the views were stunning.