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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 28, 2014, 11:06:07 PM
Post by: jtksu on April 28, 2014, 11:09:06 PM
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2041051-preseason-college-football-rankings-post-spring-practice-top-25?is_shared=true :gocho:
Guess the ranking is about what I'd expect but we're better than that.
Post by: eastcat on April 28, 2014, 11:24:55 PM
Post by: Winters on April 28, 2014, 11:25:19 PM
Thank you 16 goals! :driving:really good post
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Post by: Emo EMAW on April 29, 2014, 01:52:16 PM
21
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Post by: MouseRat on April 29, 2014, 01:54:28 PM
:lol:21
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 29, 2014, 02:04:25 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 05, 2014, 03:33:05 PM
#23 :billdance:
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23. Kansas State Wildcats If we've learned anything during LHC Bill Snyder's previous 22 seasons at Kansas State, it's that the Wildcats will undoubtedly begin the season underrated. After winning a Big 12 title in 2012, the Wildcats slipped to 8-5 last season. But after losing four of its first six games, Kansas State rebounded to win six of its last seven, including a 31-14 victory over Michigan in the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl. A big reason for the turnaround was quarterback Jake Waters' rapid improvement. He threw for 271 yards with three touchdowns against the Wolverines and looked to have even better command of the offense this spring. The Wildcats solidified their offensive line by moving All-Big 12 guard Cody Whitehair to left tackle. Dalvin Warmack, a touted incoming freshman, might have a chance to become the No. 1 tailback during preseason camp.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 05, 2014, 03:35:55 PM
http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=10884991&src=desktop&wjb
#23 :billdance:Quote23. Kansas State Wildcats If we've learned anything during LHC Bill Snyder's previous 22 seasons at Kansas State, it's that the Wildcats will undoubtedly begin the season underrated. After winning a Big 12 title in 2012, the Wildcats slipped to 8-5 last season. But after losing four of its first six games, Kansas State rebounded to win six of its last seven, including a 31-14 victory over Michigan in the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl. A big reason for the turnaround was quarterback Jake Waters' rapid improvement. He threw for 271 yards with three touchdowns against the Wolverines and looked to have even better command of the offense this spring. The Wildcats solidified their offensive line by moving All-Big 12 guard Cody Whitehair to left tackle. Dalvin Warmack, a touted incoming freshman, might have a chance to become the No. 1 tailback during preseason camp.
Didn't Waters sort of struggle to score points against our 2nd string defense? I didn't see the game.
Post by: cfbandyman on May 05, 2014, 03:37:39 PM
http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=10884991&src=desktop&wjb
#23 :billdance:Quote23. Kansas State Wildcats If we've learned anything during LHC Bill Snyder's previous 22 seasons at Kansas State, it's that the Wildcats will undoubtedly begin the season underrated. After winning a Big 12 title in 2012, the Wildcats slipped to 8-5 last season. But after losing four of its first six games, Kansas State rebounded to win six of its last seven, including a 31-14 victory over Michigan in the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl. A big reason for the turnaround was quarterback Jake Waters' rapid improvement. He threw for 271 yards with three touchdowns against the Wolverines and looked to have even better command of the offense this spring. The Wildcats solidified their offensive line by moving All-Big 12 guard Cody Whitehair to left tackle. Dalvin Warmack, a touted incoming freshman, might have a chance to become the No. 1 tailback during preseason camp.
Didn't Waters sort of struggle to score points against our 2nd string defense? I didn't see the game.
He did, but if ESPN is impressed with it maybe we are too critical of ourselves.
Post by: ydarg2012 on May 05, 2014, 03:46:48 PM
http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=10884991&src=desktop&wjb
#23 :billdance:Quote23. Kansas State Wildcats If we've learned anything during LHC Bill Snyder's previous 22 seasons at Kansas State, it's that the Wildcats will undoubtedly begin the season underrated. After winning a Big 12 title in 2012, the Wildcats slipped to 8-5 last season. But after losing four of its first six games, Kansas State rebounded to win six of its last seven, including a 31-14 victory over Michigan in the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl. A big reason for the turnaround was quarterback Jake Waters' rapid improvement. He threw for 271 yards with three touchdowns against the Wolverines and looked to have even better command of the offense this spring. The Wildcats solidified their offensive line by moving All-Big 12 guard Cody Whitehair to left tackle. Dalvin Warmack, a touted incoming freshman, might have a chance to become the No. 1 tailback during preseason camp.
Didn't Waters sort of struggle to score points against our 2nd string defense? I didn't see the game.
He did, but if ESPN is impressed with it maybe we are too critical of ourselves.
I think they are beginning to understand that the Scheme wizard isn't going to show anything good at the annual Spring Toss Around. That in mind, what they saw was Jake throwing crisp passes way more on target then that awful first half of the season. I think they are also pretty pumped to see Gronk smashing heads.
Post by: MouseRat on May 05, 2014, 09:29:22 PM
http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=10884991&src=desktop&wjb
#23 :billdance:Quote23. Kansas State Wildcats If we've learned anything during LHC LHC Bill Snyder's previous 22 seasons at Kansas State, it's that the Wildcats will undoubtedly begin the season underrated. After winning a Big 12 title in 2012, the Wildcats slipped to 8-5 last season. But after losing four of its first six games, Kansas State rebounded to win six of its last seven, including a 31-14 victory over Michigan in the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl. A big reason for the turnaround was quarterback Jake Waters' rapid improvement. He threw for 271 yards with three touchdowns against the Wolverines and looked to have even better command of the offense this spring. The Wildcats solidified their offensive line by moving All-Big 12 guard Cody Whitehair to left tackle. Dalvin Warmack, a touted incoming freshman, might have a chance to become the No. 1 tailback during preseason camp.
Didn't Waters sort of struggle to score points against our 2nd string defense? I didn't see the game.
He did, but if ESPN is impressed with it maybe we are too critical of ourselves.
I think they are beginning to understand that the Scheme wizard isn't going to show anything good at the annual Spring Toss Around. That in mind, what they saw was Jake throwing crisp passes way more on target then that awful first half of the season. I think they are also pretty pumped to see Gronk smashing heads.
AND our receivers dropped 2 TD passes in the spring game while Tyler "Legacy" Lockett was sidelined with injury. Snyder definitely didn't tip his hand either.
Post by: Trogdor on May 05, 2014, 09:41:50 PM
Post by: DQ12 on May 06, 2014, 04:08:30 PM
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13. Kansas State: The nation's oldest FBS coach (75 in October), LHC Bill Snyder will be eligible for immediate inclusion into the College Football Hall of Fame in 2015. Snyder, though, doesn't look like he's slowing down. Jake Waters takes over full-time at quarterback.
:love:
When is the last time we were preseason top 15 btw? 2004?
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on May 06, 2014, 04:52:35 PM
http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=10884991&src=desktop&wjb
#23 :billdance:Quote23. Kansas State Wildcats If we've learned anything during LHC Bill Snyder's previous 22 seasons at Kansas State, it's that the Wildcats will undoubtedly begin the season underrated. After winning a Big 12 title in 2012, the Wildcats slipped to 8-5 last season. But after losing four of its first six games, Kansas State rebounded to win six of its last seven, including a 31-14 victory over Michigan in the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl. A big reason for the turnaround was quarterback Jake Waters' rapid improvement. He threw for 271 yards with three touchdowns against the Wolverines and looked to have even better command of the offense this spring. The Wildcats solidified their offensive line by moving All-Big 12 guard Cody Whitehair to left tackle. Dalvin Warmack, a touted incoming freshman, might have a chance to become the No. 1 tailback during preseason camp.
No rough ridin' respect! :shakesfist:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2014, 04:53:34 PM
Complete stud Dennis Dodd:Nice find, 'lew!Quote13. Kansas State: The nation's oldest FBS coach (75 in October), LHC LHC Bill Snyder will be eligible for immediate inclusion into the College Football Hall of Fame in 2015. Snyder, though, doesn't look like he's slowing down. Jake Waters takes over full-time at quarterback.
:love:
When is the last time we were preseason top 15 btw? 2004?
Post by: PowercatPat on May 06, 2014, 09:46:43 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/24552506/post-spring-top-25-welcome-back-to-the-top-spot-alabama
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 06, 2014, 09:49:12 PM
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on May 06, 2014, 09:53:54 PM
Haven't seen this posted anywhere:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/24552506/post-spring-top-25-welcome-back-to-the-top-spot-alabama
Just like I always say....Roll Tide.
Post by: DennisDodd on May 07, 2014, 08:41:24 AM
Haven't seen this posted anywhere:Hey guys! With the Malek signing and my latest rankings, I wanted to know if I could stop by and swing my dick with ya? Congrats!
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/24552506/post-spring-top-25-welcome-back-to-the-top-spot-alabama
Post by: sunny_cat on May 07, 2014, 08:44:16 AM
Haven't seen this posted anywhere:Hey guys! With the Malek signing and my latest rankings, I wanted to know if I could stop by and swing my dick with ya? Congrats!
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/24552506/post-spring-top-25-welcome-back-to-the-top-spot-alabama
I wish this was real
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on May 07, 2014, 08:47:26 AM
Haven't seen this posted anywhere:Hey guys! With the Malek signing and my latest rankings, I wanted to know if I could stop by and swing my dick with ya? Congrats!
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/24552506/post-spring-top-25-welcome-back-to-the-top-spot-alabama
I wish this was real
Slow day at the office for the Fanman.
Post by: scottwildcat on May 07, 2014, 08:47:49 AM
Haven't seen this posted anywhere:Hey guys! With the Malek signing and my latest rankings, I wanted to know if I could stop by and swing my dick with ya? Congrats!
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/24552506/post-spring-top-25-welcome-back-to-the-top-spot-alabama
I wish this was real
Me too
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Post by: Katpappy on May 07, 2014, 08:51:03 AM
Don't know if you're for real or not, but anyway, wellcome to the board. :cheers:Haven't seen this posted anywhere:Hey guys! With the Malek signing and my latest rankings, I wanted to know if I could stop by and swing my dick with ya? Congrats!
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/24552506/post-spring-top-25-welcome-back-to-the-top-spot-alabama
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 07, 2014, 08:51:23 AM
:sdeek:Haven't seen this posted anywhere:Hey guys! With the Malek signing and my latest rankings, I wanted to know if I could stop by and swing my dick with ya? Congrats!
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/24552506/post-spring-top-25-welcome-back-to-the-top-spot-alabama
I wish this was real
Slow day at the office for the Fanman.
Post by: KITNfury on May 07, 2014, 08:56:12 AM
Would give anything.Haven't seen this posted anywhere:Hey guys! With the Malek signing and my latest rankings, I wanted to know if I could stop by and swing my dick with ya? Congrats!
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/24552506/post-spring-top-25-welcome-back-to-the-top-spot-alabama
I wish this was real
Me too
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Post by: ydarg2012 on May 07, 2014, 10:28:16 AM
Haven't seen this posted anywhere:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/24552506/post-spring-top-25-welcome-back-to-the-top-spot-alabama
Just like I always say....Roll Tide.
Limited communication aside, I can't say I've ever heard you say Roll Tide. Ever.
Post by: 'taterblast on July 31, 2014, 11:09:37 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2014, 11:10:10 AM
21:love: :horrorsurprise: :excited:
Post by: 'taterblast on July 31, 2014, 11:10:55 AM
Post by: cas4ksu on July 31, 2014, 11:11:36 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 31, 2014, 11:12:22 AM
Post by: steve dave on July 31, 2014, 11:12:54 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on July 31, 2014, 11:13:34 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on July 31, 2014, 11:13:52 AM
Post by: kim carnes on July 31, 2014, 11:14:27 AM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 31, 2014, 11:14:52 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2014, 11:15:27 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on July 31, 2014, 11:16:09 AM
Post by: steve dave on July 31, 2014, 11:16:25 AM
Pfft. #21 is a gift. This never happens. :peek: Honestly tho, I think they just did this for the Auburn game. However, this is just going to make Iowa State fans even crazier now. :frown:
what are you even talking about?
Post by: 'taterblast on July 31, 2014, 11:17:36 AM
1. Florida St
2. Alabama
3. Oklahoma
4. Oregon
5. Auburn
6. Ohio St
7. UCLA
8. Michigan St
9. South Carolina
10. Baylor
11. Stanford
12. Georgia
13. LSU
14. Wisconsin
15. USC
16. Clemson
17. Notre Dame
18. Arizona State
19. Ole Miss
20. Texas A&M
21. Kansas St
22. Nebraska
23. North Carolina
24. Texas
25. Washington
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2014, 11:18:36 AM
Post by: cas4ksu on July 31, 2014, 11:18:53 AM
except steve dave, he gets it
yeah. I tweeted the same thing just a bit ago. Pretty tongue in cheek though.
Predictions for the rankings leading into the Auburn game?
Auburn: 4
KSU: 16
Post by: kim carnes on July 31, 2014, 11:19:16 AM
Post by: cas4ksu on July 31, 2014, 11:20:30 AM
The only SEC team to get a 1st place vote?
South Carolina.
Post by: Panjandrum on July 31, 2014, 11:26:14 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on July 31, 2014, 11:29:54 AM
When did Amway start sponsoring the coaches' poll?
today, probably
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 31, 2014, 11:33:39 AM
Post by: Brock Landers on July 31, 2014, 11:45:36 AM
When did Amway start sponsoring the coaches' poll?
today, probably
Lol, I noticed that too.....happened back in February per wikipedia. Stupid Coaches Poll had nothing better to do on a cold winter evening and went to a meeting about an exciting business opportunity, then BAM!!!! Hello, new sponsor.
Post by: Panjandrum on July 31, 2014, 11:46:33 AM
When did Amway start sponsoring the coaches' poll?
today, probably
Lol, I noticed that too.....happened back in February per wikipedia. Stupid Coaches Poll had nothing better to do on a cold winter evening and went to a meeting about an exciting business opportunity, then BAM!!!! Hello, new sponsor.
:thumbs:
Post by: i poo crabs on July 31, 2014, 12:08:01 PM
"K-State at 21 is a bone thrown to Auburn by the SEC coaches (Gus: Well we did beat a top 25 team on the road in the north)"
"ksu in the top 25 is laughable"
Post by: EMAWforever on July 31, 2014, 12:22:20 PM
LOL at the nubber boardDon't those Husker losers know that they wouldn't even be ranked if they were still in the Big 12 because everyone would know that that they would only win 5-6 games in a good league.
"K-State at 21 is a bone thrown to Auburn by the SEC coaches (Gus: Well we did beat a top 25 team on the road in the north)"
"ksu in the top 25 is laughable"
Post by: DQ12 on July 31, 2014, 12:48:29 PM
Sent
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 31, 2014, 12:52:18 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on July 31, 2014, 01:15:56 PM
I want to absolutely destroy Iowa State. Like murder them by 100 so Auburn at KSU is a matchup of top 15 teams
Who the hell do you think would put stock in us because we beat floodaggie, even if it was by 100?
Post by: cfbandyman on July 31, 2014, 01:22:36 PM
I want to absolutely destroy Iowa State. Like murder them by 100 so Auburn at KSU is a matchup of top 15 teams
Who the hell do you think would put stock in us because we beat floodaggie, even if it was by 100?
They wouldn't but we could talk up early conference roadie against those guys that ruined OSU's chances in 2011 a lot and it might help
except steve dave, he gets it
yeah. I tweeted the same thing just a bit ago. Pretty tongue in cheek though.
Predictions for the rankings leading into the Auburn game?
Auburn: 4
KSU: 16
I think Auburn with be #4 but we'll be #18.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2014, 01:25:08 PM
Some teams could stub their toes by the time that games rolls around. :dunno: Also, espn.I want to absolutely destroy Iowa State. Like murder them by 100 so Auburn at KSU is a matchup of top 15 teams
Who the hell do you think would put stock in us because we beat floodaggie, even if it was by 100?
Post by: steve dave on July 31, 2014, 01:26:23 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2014, 01:28:28 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 31, 2014, 01:31:35 PM
Honestly, we should just run straight QB draws that game with our back ups and walk out of there 24-10. Never look back. Act like that game never happened.
Ertz would absolutely destroy those guys.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 31, 2014, 01:38:01 PM
I hope we just spend the entire ISU week preparing for whoever we play after them and sleepwalk through a less than 2 TD victory. that strategy has worked pretty much every year that I've been alive so why mix it up.
no I wanna win by 100
Post by: kim carnes on July 31, 2014, 01:39:25 PM
Honestly, we should just run straight QB draws that game with our back ups and walk out of there 24-10. Never look back. Act like that game never happened.
Ertz would absolutely destroy those guys.
Ertz sucks
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on July 31, 2014, 01:41:32 PM
Ertz sucks
It's cute how people pretend he's good.
Post by: Stevesie60 on July 31, 2014, 01:42:29 PM
Ertz sucks
It's cute how people pretend he's good.
"He's a smart, hard working kid from the Midwest. What's not to like!?!?"
Post by: Stevesie60 on July 31, 2014, 01:42:53 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2014, 01:46:37 PM
Post by: steve dave on July 31, 2014, 01:47:44 PM
Honestly, nobody really knows anything about Ertz, but i'm optimistic.
I actually know a lot about him. because I'm steve dave. and steve dave knows a lot of unspeakable things (unless we're talking in person then I have diarrhea mouth).
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2014, 01:48:55 PM
Well bud, you can always PM me deets too. I won't tell nobody. Scouts honor. :)Honestly, nobody really knows anything about Ertz, but i'm optimistic.
I actually know a lot about him. because I'm steve dave. and steve dave knows a lot of unspeakable things (unless we're talking in person then I have diarrhea mouth).
Post by: steve dave on July 31, 2014, 01:50:53 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2014, 01:58:37 PM
Post by: TownieCat on July 31, 2014, 02:10:10 PM
Post by: treysolid on July 31, 2014, 02:12:50 PM
Post by: CNS on July 31, 2014, 02:14:30 PM
we really needed aaron sharp in that last class. delton better be the real deal from day 1 because all the juco QBs in the 2015 class are lukewarm dog poo.
Guys, could Baby Klein come in and Sketti Brain the offense through a season if need be?
Post by: oneeyedwillie on July 31, 2014, 02:15:28 PM
well I can actually talk about ertz here. he's not very good. distant 3rd on the depth chart and we better hope really hard that either Delton is ready to deal or we recruit a juco that is. or that he gets a ton better fast.
Who's #2?
Post by: steve dave on July 31, 2014, 02:17:37 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2014, 02:19:48 PM
http://247sports.com/Player/Daniel-Fitzwater-24381
:dunno:
http://247sports.com/Player/Tay-Bender-10848
:surprised: :lol:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2014, 02:20:28 PM
we could be looking at a joe hubener led offense next season. hubener is kind of good though (at least relative to how good you expect him to be). like in a collin klein way. and we would run a collin klein type offense with him.I thought he looked decent in the spring game. :dunno:
Post by: Benja on July 31, 2014, 02:20:51 PM
I hope we just spend the entire ISU week preparing for whoever we play after them and sleepwalk through a less than 2 TD victory. that strategy has worked pretty much every year that I've been alive so why mix it up.
Yes, that would be the elite thing to do. I hope we can do it.
Post by: Benja on July 31, 2014, 02:23:05 PM
Honestly, we should just run straight QB draws that game with our back ups and walk out of there 24-10. Never look back. Act like that game never happened.
I'm going to act like the game never happened no matter what. Because its gross Iowa state and yuck.
Post by: Winters on July 31, 2014, 02:23:40 PM
we could be looking at a joe hubener led offense next season. hubener is kind of good though (at least relative to how good you expect him to be). like in a collin klein way. and we would run a collin klein type offense with him.:blindfold:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 31, 2014, 02:29:06 PM
Honestly, we should just run straight QB draws that game with our back ups and walk out of there 24-10. Never look back. Act like that game never happened.
Ertz would absolutely destroy those guys.
Ertz sucks
It's ISU.
Post by: Benja on July 31, 2014, 02:31:44 PM
Post by: steve dave on July 31, 2014, 02:32:18 PM
I hope the announcers say something like "This k state team better wake up!" like 10 times during the Iowa state game.
yes, good call
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2014, 02:32:36 PM
Here are our choices for top 50 juco QB's:Hey you guys! Did you miss this post or something? :lol:
http://247sports.com/Player/Daniel-Fitzwater-24381
:dunno:
http://247sports.com/Player/Tay-Bender-10848
:surprised: :lol:
Post by: steve dave on July 31, 2014, 02:33:31 PM
Post by: Pete on July 31, 2014, 02:36:44 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2014, 02:37:47 PM
It's too soon to talk about next season, but start getting ready for an Allen Evridge / Grant Gregory type experience.I loved Grant Gregory FWIW. I know he was kinda shitty, but he's on my all heart team. :surprised:
Post by: Benja on July 31, 2014, 02:38:12 PM
Post by: Fedor on July 31, 2014, 02:38:46 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 31, 2014, 02:38:54 PM
It's too soon to talk about next season, but start getting ready for an Allen Evridge / Grant Gregory type experience.I loved Grant Gregory FWIW. I know he was kinda shitty, but he's on my all heart team. :surprised:
WC please make a depth chart for your all heart team! :ksu:
Post by: Benja on July 31, 2014, 02:39:08 PM
It's too soon to talk about next season, but start getting ready for an Allen Evridge / Grant Gregory type experience.I loved Grant Gregory FWIW. I know he was kinda shitty, but he's on my all heart team. :surprised:
Who do you not love tho
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 31, 2014, 02:40:08 PM
Worst case scenario is we blow out isu then are beaten fairly soundly by auburn. That will make me very sad and I honestly will probably have trouble regaining normal excitement for the rest of the year.
Best case scenario is we beat both of them by 50+. I would be very happy with this and start booking playoff tickets.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 31, 2014, 02:42:47 PM
It's too soon to talk about next season, but start getting ready for an Allen Evridge / Grant Gregory type experience.I loved Grant Gregory FWIW. I know he was kinda shitty, but he's on my all heart team. :surprised:
WC please make a depth chart for your all heart team! :ksu:
Man. I cannot WAIT to see who is safety on WC's all time all heart team. McGraw? Watts? 2 Ys?
Post by: Benja on July 31, 2014, 02:44:35 PM
It's too soon to talk about next season, but start getting ready for an Allen Evridge / Grant Gregory type experience.I loved Grant Gregory FWIW. I know he was kinda shitty, but he's on my all heart team. :surprised:
WC please make a depth chart for your all heart team! :ksu:
Man. I cannot WAIT to see who is safety on WC's all time all heart team. McGraw? Watts? 2 Ys?
Make sure it has tons of white guys wacky
Post by: MadCat on July 31, 2014, 02:45:51 PM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 31, 2014, 02:46:11 PM
It's too soon to talk about next season, but start getting ready for an Allen Evridge / Grant Gregory type experience.I loved Grant Gregory FWIW. I know he was kinda shitty, but he's on my all heart team. :surprised:
WC please make a depth chart for your all heart team! :ksu:
Man. I cannot WAIT to see who is safety on WC's all time all heart team. McGraw? Watts? 2 Ys?
I would put 2 Ys and Zimmerman at safety.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2014, 02:48:13 PM
It's too soon to talk about next season, but start getting ready for an Allen Evridge / Grant Gregory type experience.I loved Grant Gregory FWIW. I know he was kinda shitty, but he's on my all heart team. :surprised:
WC please make a depth chart for your all heart team! :ksu:
All heart team:
QB: 1. Klein 2. GG
RB: 1. Dold 2. Hubert 3. Sproles
WR: 1. Aaron Lockett 2. Jordy (white, walk-on, etc.)
OL: Everyone. They're all shitty white guys from Kansas.
TE: 1. Swift 2. Nick Warren (Eudora guy)
DL: 1. Mueller 2. I'm really bad at this position
LB: 1. Buhl 2. Arthur Brown
CB: 1. Newman 2. Canty
S: 1. Mcgraw 2.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 31, 2014, 02:50:08 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2014, 02:50:54 PM
I can't believe Ian Campbell didn't make it on at DE.He had a lot of heart from the start, but he lost it and went hollywood on everyone and really started to suck at football.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 31, 2014, 02:51:59 PM
I can't believe Ian Campbell didn't make it on at DE.He had a lot of heart from the start, but he lost it and went hollywood on everyone and really started to suck at football.
100% Ron Prince's fault, though.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 31, 2014, 02:54:43 PM
Post by: Pete on July 31, 2014, 02:57:21 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2014, 02:57:27 PM
No Braden Wilson?eff that guy! I don't care how white he is. Joe Hall and Ayo saba get the nod there.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 31, 2014, 02:58:36 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2014, 02:59:28 PM
Sean belongs at punter.He can have it. Rheem at FG kicker. Although, gramatica had a lot of heart, but not white enough.
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on July 31, 2014, 03:26:06 PM
It's too soon to talk about next season, but start getting ready for an Allen Evridge / Grant Gregory type experience.I loved Grant Gregory FWIW. I know he was kinda shitty, but he's on my all heart team. :surprised:
WC please make a depth chart for your all heart team! :ksu:
All heart team:
QB: 1. Klein 2. GG
RB: 1. Dold 2. Hubert 3. Sproles
WR: 1. Aaron Lockett 2. Jordy (white, walk-on, etc.)
OL: Everyone. They're all shitty white guys from Kansas.
TE: 1. Swift 2. Nick Warren (Eudora guy)
DL: 1. Mueller 2.I'm really bad at this positionTank Reese
LB: 1. Buhl 2. Arthur Brown
CB: 1. Newman 2. Canty
S: 1. Mcgraw 2.tetuan(lol. yeah rough ridin' right.) 2. zimmerman (cause white and small townie)
HTH
Post by: mocat on July 31, 2014, 04:25:41 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2014, 04:26:28 PM
POWER IS MEASURED IN WATTS BUT ONLY IF YOUR HEART IS BIG ENOUGH TO POWER THE GENERATOR WACKY YOU FUCKUP!:surprised: :eek: :lol:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 31, 2014, 04:34:06 PM
POWER IS MEASURED IN WATTS BUT ONLY IF YOUR HEART IS BIG ENOUGH TO POWER THE GENERATOR WACKY YOU FUCKUP!
That's why Watts isn't on the list. Heart wasn't big enough to power the generator.
Post by: mocat on July 31, 2014, 04:37:13 PM
^ his heart is as big as you think (the size of kansas)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2014, 04:38:29 PM
CASE CLOSED!
Post by: mocat on July 31, 2014, 04:40:29 PM
Post by: treysolid on July 31, 2014, 04:48:19 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 31, 2014, 04:51:12 PM
Post by: Gooch on July 31, 2014, 05:21:07 PM
Post by: jtksu on July 31, 2014, 05:24:23 PM
pfft Your two DB's were probably our most talented players ever at that position. Not saying they did not have heart but man they were oozing talent.
Yeah but Newman was a skinny track kid from Salina. Without all that heart, no way he turns into an NFLer.
Post by: Pett on July 31, 2014, 08:11:17 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcache3.asset-cache.net%2Fgc%2F342393-sep-1998-running-back-marlon-charles-of-the-gettyimages.jpg%3Fv%3D1%26amp%3Bc%3DIWSAsset%26amp%3Bk%3D2%26amp%3Bd%3DOCUJ5gVf7YdJQI2Xhkc2QBEduFvsK5t6M8tahnRWUajbPaUmkD5wHutjXeIIBj2l81StLi%252b9Ee6ajPv%252bQD14iA%253d%253d&hash=1e680b605e02fa837450bb4c912e5879bc0927c8)You chose Marlon Charles over DeMarcus "Petey" Faggins? :angry:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2014, 08:12:41 PM
You can't have an all heart team and just say all OL players ever. You just can't.Little do you know, dork weed. This is my show, OK?
Post by: MadCat on July 31, 2014, 09:26:56 PM
Case Closed
Post by: jtksu on July 31, 2014, 09:31:00 PM
I foresee Wacky being a radio talk show host where people call in and start to berate him and he just puts them on mute so he can have the last word on EVERYONE!
Case Closed
Dude is great at baitin'.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 31, 2014, 09:40:34 PM
You can't have an all heart team and just say all OL players ever. You just can't.Little do you know, dork weed. This is my show, OK?
so even that dude who stole papa snyder's mickey mantle ball is on the all heart team?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 31, 2014, 09:51:21 PM
You wish. guy never sweated on the field. That's where the line draws.You can't have an all heart team and just say all OL players ever. You just can't.Little do you know, dork weed. This is my show, OK?
so even that dude who stole papa snyder's mickey mantle ball is on the all heart team?
Post by: steve dave on August 01, 2014, 07:03:32 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on August 01, 2014, 09:21:41 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 01, 2014, 09:27:40 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 01, 2014, 09:34:18 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 01, 2014, 09:35:12 AM
I think blast and SD are gonna get cut from the all heart team if they're not careful. GET THEM WACKY! THIS ONE'S FOR GRANT GREGORY!I feel ya, cf3. THESE rough ridin' GUYS! :shakesfist: :curse:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 01, 2014, 09:39:48 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 01, 2014, 09:42:23 AM
Post by: mocat on August 01, 2014, 09:45:15 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 01, 2014, 09:46:54 AM
Wacky do you have a heart scale? Like you could give each player between 1 and 100 hearts depending on their heart. I'd like you to do this for the entire roster, so we can once and for all see which heartless no heart loser (probably a lazy POS walkon) needs to get his ass cut from the team.I definitely have a :heart: scale. However, I left it at home today. I'll range it for you tho. Mueller is a 100 heart kinda guy. The least amount of heart is Tate. He has like a 0 heart rate cause he didn't have to do anything to get where he's at (Don't care if he's not on the roster anymore). :curse:
Post by: Unruly on August 01, 2014, 09:47:42 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 01, 2014, 09:48:05 AM
like, let me get this straight. marcus "heart" watts has a huge heart, we all know that. so wacky leaves him off the all-heart squad because he gave away his heart to a lady wacky used to crush on? man. tough break marcus. you had a huge heart but YOU GAVE IT AWAY YOU BIG BOOGER! HOPE TO SEE YOU IN THE DIVORCE THREAD!:curse:
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 01, 2014, 09:49:14 AM
Wacky do you have a heart scale? Like you could give each player between 1 and 100 hearts depending on their heart. I'd like you to do this for the entire roster, so we can once and for all see which heartless no heart loser (probably a lazy POS walkon) needs to get his ass cut from the team.I definitely have a :heart: scale. However, I left it at home today. I'll range it for you tho. Mueller is a 100 heart kinda guy. The least amount of heart if Tate. He has like a 0 heart rate cause he didn't have to do anything to get where he's at (Don't care if he's not on the roster anymore). :curse:
What's the correlation the 16 goals and heart level? Gotta be 3:1 ratio
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 01, 2014, 09:52:07 AM
BINGO!Wacky do you have a heart scale? Like you could give each player between 1 and 100 hearts depending on their heart. I'd like you to do this for the entire roster, so we can once and for all see which heartless no heart loser (probably a lazy POS walkon) needs to get his ass cut from the team.I definitely have a :heart: scale. However, I left it at home today. I'll range it for you tho. Mueller is a 100 heart kinda guy. The least amount of heart if Tate. He has like a 0 heart rate cause he didn't have to do anything to get where he's at (Don't care if he's not on the roster anymore). :curse:
What's the correlation the 16 goals and heart level? Gotta be 3:1 ratio
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Post by: 'taterblast on August 01, 2014, 09:52:56 AM
:don'tcare:
Post by: mocat on August 01, 2014, 10:15:05 AM
Post by: Panjandrum on August 01, 2014, 10:24:23 AM
i'm all for a whites only heart thread, but i kinda thought this thread would turn into everyone being pissed off about them putting us at 21
:don'tcare:
After Phil Steele ripped our hearts out, I was happy with just being ranked.
However, being right ahead of Nebraska is great because I want them to hear, "Right behind Kansas State at 21," for the next month.
Post by: 'taterblast on August 01, 2014, 10:27:29 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 01, 2014, 10:31:58 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 01, 2014, 12:18:16 PM
i'm all for a whites only heart thread, but i kinda thought this thread would turn into everyone being pissed off about them putting us at 21
:don'tcare:
ITS AN OUTRAGE!!!!!!
Post by: cfbandyman on August 01, 2014, 05:40:48 PM
Post by: kim carnes on August 02, 2014, 01:11:08 AM
i would rather be unranked at this point blasty blast
Yeah
Post by: Katpappy on August 02, 2014, 01:29:36 AM
i would rather be unranked at this point blasty blastFools enter freely, but the wise aways knock first.
Post by: j-dub on August 02, 2014, 01:40:34 AM
Pfft. #21 is a gift. This never happens. :peek: Honestly tho, I think they just did this for the Auburn game. However, this is just going to make Iowa State fans even crazier now. :frown:
what are you even talking about?
he's the weirdest sports fan ever. bullish on the chiefs and royals of all god-forsaken teams. but thinks the cats are ranked too high at 21.
i'll give ya this fan man, you always keep me on my toes.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 02, 2014, 09:39:43 AM
:comeatme:Pfft. #21 is a gift. This never happens. :peek: Honestly tho, I think they just did this for the Auburn game. However, this is just going to make Iowa State fans even crazier now. :frown:
what are you even talking about?
he's the weirdest sports fan ever. bullish on the chiefs and royals of all god-forsaken teams. but thinks the cats are ranked too high at 21.
i'll give ya this fan man, you always keep me on my toes.
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on August 02, 2014, 09:47:38 AM
Post by: Winters on August 02, 2014, 01:35:44 PM
I might get GG to be on the gE podcast.I think blast and SD are gonna get cut from the all heart team if they're not careful. GET THEM WACKY! THIS ONE'S FOR GRANT GREGORY!I feel ya, cf3. THESE rough ridin' GUYS! :shakesfist: :curse:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 02, 2014, 01:38:56 PM
That would make my day. :Carl:I might get GG to be on the gE podcast.I think blast and SD are gonna get cut from the all heart team if they're not careful. GET THEM WACKY! THIS ONE'S FOR GRANT GREGORY!I feel ya, cf3. THESE rough ridin' GUYS! :shakesfist: :curse:
Post by: Unruly on August 17, 2014, 01:19:15 PM
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on August 17, 2014, 01:33:45 PM
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on August 17, 2014, 01:37:52 PM
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on August 17, 2014, 01:44:25 PM
Stomping ISU is hard for us. Don't think we will move north very far.
Apparently their D-line is decimated right now, and their secondary has three new starters. Plus they don't have a single good Linebacker. Even with all of that they are somehow still dominating their horrible offense in scrimmages. KU and ISU will be battling each other for their single Big 12 win this season.
Post by: kim carnes on August 17, 2014, 01:46:05 PM
Stomping ISU is hard for us. Don't think we will move north very far.
Apparently their D-line is decimated right now, and their secondary has three new starters. Plus they don't have a single good Linebacker. Even with all of that they are somehow still dominating their horrible offense in scrimmages. KU and ISU will be battling each other for their single Big 12 win this season.
mark mangino
Post by: kim carnes on August 17, 2014, 01:52:07 PM
Quote from: cyclone fanatic
Concerned about Mangino's comments about the OL still having "a ways to go". Hope they light a fire under their butts the next 2 weeks, because we have a LOT of talent in the WR, TE, QB and RB core. But they can't do squat if the OL doesn't do theirs. Hope they put on their Big Boy pants and prepare for NDSU like it's a Big 10/12 type match up, because it will be.
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on August 17, 2014, 01:58:34 PM
this quote from cyclone fanatic suggests otherwise about their offense. they are very talented at WR, TE, QB, and RB:Quote from: cyclone fanaticConcerned about Mangino's comments about the OL still having "a ways to go". Hope they light a fire under their butts the next 2 weeks, because we have a LOT of talent in the WR, TE, QB and RB core. But they can't do squat if the OL doesn't do theirs. Hope they put on their Big Boy pants and prepare for NDSU like it's a Big 10/12 type match up, because it will be.
They have Mangino, so I guess they have a chance but all the reports from yesterday are talking about the defense dominating the offense.
http://amestrib.com/sports/football-defense-dominates-cyclone-scrimmage (http://amestrib.com/sports/football-defense-dominates-cyclone-scrimmage)
I doubt Mangino has the offense playing decently until mid-season.
Post by: ChiComCat on August 17, 2014, 02:09:09 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on August 17, 2014, 02:09:56 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on August 17, 2014, 08:05:10 PM
Stomping ISU is hard for us. Don't think we will move north very far.
Yeah, for sure
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=333062306
Post by: GoodForAnother on August 17, 2014, 08:10:53 PM
Post by: FranklyFrankYou on August 17, 2014, 08:14:50 PM
mangino is going to turn the ISU offense into a juggernaut by week 2, mark my wordsIs there anything bigger than a juggernaut. If so, that's what ISU will show the world offensively this year... comparatively at least
Post by: seattlecat on August 17, 2014, 09:30:09 PM
Post by: Katpappy on August 17, 2014, 11:15:16 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on August 18, 2014, 07:58:00 AM
I feel weird about the preseason rankings this yr. Like, yeah, 20th in the country, 3rd in the confy feels about right given what we know.
well hello there, seattlecat :shy:
Post by: steve dave on August 30, 2014, 09:11:41 PM
well I can actually talk about ertz here. he's not very good. distant 3rd on the depth chart
Post by: steve dave on August 30, 2014, 09:13:15 PM
we could be looking at a joe hubener led offense next season. hubener is kind of good though (at least relative to how good you expect him to be). like in a collin klein way (obv. not that good). and we would run a collin klein type offense with him.
Post by: CNS on August 30, 2014, 09:17:35 PM
Post by: ben ji on August 30, 2014, 10:07:44 PM
Hard to argue against it.
Post by: Skipper44 on August 30, 2014, 10:42:18 PM
Makes me super sad about Our guy.how did we not keep Daniel on campus? Should of just made him the no3 receiver, jfc
Post by: scottwildcat on August 30, 2014, 11:51:52 PM
we could be looking at a joe hubener led offense next season. hubener is kind of good though (at least relative to how good you expect him to be). like in a collin klein way (obv. not that good). and we would run a collin klein type offense with him.
Wow
Post by: Stevesie60 on August 31, 2014, 01:40:22 AM
Post by: pvegs on August 31, 2014, 02:33:59 AM
Makes me super sad about Our guy.how did we not keep Daniel on campus? Should of just made him the no3 receiver, jfc
No kidding. I find it hard to believe he wouldn't be a better WR and backup QB than what we put out there tonight.
Post by: Benja on August 31, 2014, 03:09:04 AM
Makes me super sad about Our guy.how did we not keep Daniel on campus? Should of just made him the no3 receiver, jfc
No kidding. I find it hard to believe he wouldn't be a better WR and backup QB than what we put out there tonight.
It's rough ridin' mind numbing. Now he's lost forever playing in those dogshit uniforms in that smelly little stadium. He could of been the man next year.
Post by: bshea85 on September 17, 2014, 09:12:04 PM
Post by: sak on September 17, 2014, 09:32:00 PM
So $A&M$ jumped from 21 to 9 after beating #9 South Carolina. How far will KSU jump after beating Auburn? It's really a rhetorical question, surely we'll be ranked #1.
if you beat us by 24 points in our building, you'd probably jump into the top 10.
but to answer your question, you will fall out of the poll after the loss.
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on September 17, 2014, 10:06:15 PM
So $A&M$ jumped from 21 to 9 after beating #9 South Carolina. How far will KSU jump after beating Auburn? It's really a rhetorical question, surely we'll be ranked #1.
Actually, since we aren't SEC-SEC-SEC and our commissioner isn't blowing John Skipper we'll probably move up to about 10/11. Right behind Auburn at #9.
Post by: manpow5 on September 30, 2014, 01:07:46 PM
So ESPN has us in their power rankings at a better spot than AP or USA Today.... I mean it's only one spot, but ESPN usually hates us.... are they finally jumping on the "America's Team" bandwagon?!
Post by: sunny_cat on September 30, 2014, 01:08:37 PM
Post by: MadCat on September 30, 2014, 01:17:19 PM
Post by: Bookcat on September 30, 2014, 02:21:27 PM
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on September 30, 2014, 03:59:17 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 30, 2014, 04:02:51 PM
How the hell can Missouri be in the top 25 one week after losing to Indiana? SEC bias at it's finest.
Missouri is the only team in the SEC East that should be ranked.
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on September 30, 2014, 04:24:33 PM
How the hell can Missouri be in the top 25 one week after losing to Indiana? SEC bias at it's finest.
Missouri is the only team in the SEC East that should be ranked.
Maybe down the road but not one week after losing to Indiana. A win over South Carolina does not justify a top 25 ranking, or a top ten ranking for that matter.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 30, 2014, 04:27:57 PM
How the hell can Missouri be in the top 25 one week after losing to Indiana? SEC bias at it's finest.
Missouri is the only team in the SEC East that should be ranked.
Maybe down the road but not one week after losing to Indiana. A win over South Carolina does not justify a top 25 ranking, or a top ten ranking for that matter.
Eh, I have always cared more about who a team beats than who they lose to. There probably aren't 25 teams out there with better wins than Missouri has right now.
Post by: CNS on September 30, 2014, 05:04:41 PM
http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings
So ESPN has us in their power rankings at a better spot than AP or USA Today.... I mean it's only one spot, but ESPN usually hates us.... are they finally jumping on the "America's Team" bandwagon?!
Teams on that list that I have less than 100% confidence that we would absolutely wreck:
1. Baylor. Should be a decent game. Good job Bears.
2. Oklahoma. Same. Looking forward to this.
3. Auburn. I mean, we would beat them next time around, but it could be close :dunno:
4. East Kentucky looked ok. We would win, but it would by by 7-10 pts.
The rest would get destroyed. No doubt.
Post by: scottwildcat on October 12, 2014, 01:13:27 PM
Post by: Canary on October 12, 2014, 01:16:52 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on October 12, 2014, 01:27:01 PM
15th in the AP poll
14
14th in the coaches
Post by: ChiComCat on October 12, 2014, 01:31:51 PM
15th in the AP poll
14
14th in the coaches
I keep clicking the link Scott and it keeps saying 14
Post by: Canary on October 12, 2014, 01:35:27 PM
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 12, 2014, 01:36:21 PM
Also, it's pretty God damn impressive that half of the Big 12 is in the top 15.
Post by: Canary on October 12, 2014, 01:40:08 PM
1 win away from the top 10.
Also, it's pretty God damn impressive that half of the Big 12 is in the top 15.
Same as SEC. 5 not .5 :D
Post by: scottwildcat on October 12, 2014, 02:59:01 PM
15th in the AP poll
14
14th in the coaches
I keep clicking the link Scott and it keeps saying 14
You're right, that's my bad.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 12, 2014, 05:28:59 PM
1 win away from the top 10.
Also, it's pretty God damn impressive that half of the Big 12 is in the top 15.
Polls are a sham
Post by: Frankenklein on October 12, 2014, 05:35:39 PM
we should vote on this1 win away from the top 10.
Also, it's pretty God damn impressive that half of the Big 12 is in the top 15.
Polls are a sham
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 12, 2014, 05:51:59 PM
1 win away from the top 10.
Also, it's pretty God damn impressive that half of the Big 12 is in the top 15.
Polls are a sham
Cool story, Negative Nancy.
Post by: bshea85 on October 12, 2014, 06:55:45 PM
we should vote on this1 win away from the top 10.
Also, it's pretty God damn impressive that half of the Big 12 is in the top 15.
Polls are a sham
I totally agree, but we should release a pre-poll poll and use our media influence to guide the discussion.
Post by: MadCat on October 12, 2014, 08:00:10 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on October 18, 2014, 04:38:06 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on October 18, 2014, 04:38:19 PM
Post by: CNS on October 18, 2014, 05:04:54 PM
Post by: CNS on October 18, 2014, 05:05:24 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on October 18, 2014, 05:07:23 PM
Quote
1 Mississippi State (45) 6-0 1480
2 Florida State (12) 6-0 1415
3 Ole Miss (3) 6-0 1413
4 Baylor 6-0 1317
5 Notre Dame 6-0 1228
6 Auburn 5-1 1144
7 Alabama 5-1 1068
8 Michigan State 5-1 1015
9 Oregon 5-1 1014
10 Georgia 5-1 981
11 Oklahoma 5-1 935
12 TCU 4-1 917
13 Ohio State 4-1 648
14 Kansas State 4-1 626
i can see us jumping OU and Ohio State but other than that who?
Post by: 'taterblast on October 18, 2014, 05:11:35 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on October 18, 2014, 05:13:02 PM
Quote1 Mississippi State (45) 6-0 1480
2 Florida State (12) 6-0 1415
3 Ole Miss (3) 6-0 1413
4 Baylor 6-0 1317
5 Notre Dame 6-0 1228
6 Auburn 5-1 1144
7 Alabama 5-1 1068
8 Michigan State 5-1 1015
9 Oregon 5-1 1014
10 Georgia 5-1 981
11 Oklahoma 5-1 935
12 TCU 4-1 917
13 Ohio State 4-1 648
14 Kansas State 4-1 626
i can see us jumping OU and Ohio State but other than that who?
OU, Ohio St, and maybe Baylor
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 18, 2014, 05:13:17 PM
Post by: kim carnes on October 18, 2014, 05:19:16 PM
Post by: Bookcat on October 18, 2014, 05:28:16 PM
TCU is pretty good... :surprised:
Post by: 'taterblast on October 18, 2014, 05:29:11 PM
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 18, 2014, 05:30:56 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 18, 2014, 05:31:25 PM
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 18, 2014, 05:32:37 PM
yeah maybe osu's defense is just garbage, but TCU's offense looks very good
Tech put oil up 35 on them so I'd say their defense is fairly shitty.
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 18, 2014, 05:34:08 PM
atm at 24 or 25? Interesting to see how this shakes out
Which SEC team do they put in to replace the Aggies? Probably LSU.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 18, 2014, 05:46:54 PM
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Post by: kso_FAN on October 18, 2014, 06:24:30 PM
Yeah, not worried at all about ranking right now since we still have Baylor, WVU and TCU on the road.
Yes. We have a brutal schedule this year.
Post by: DQ12 on October 18, 2014, 06:28:46 PM
We knew OU and Baylor on the road would be tough. TCU and WVU being good are a surprise pain in the ass.Yeah, not worried at all about ranking right now since we still have Baylor, WVU and TCU on the road.
Yes. We have a brutal schedule this year.
Post by: MadCat on October 18, 2014, 08:24:52 PM
Yes. :frown:We knew OU and Baylor on the road would be tough. TCU and WVU being good are a surprise pain in the ass.Yeah, not worried at all about ranking right now since we still have Baylor, WVU and TCU on the road.
Yes. We have a brutal schedule this year.
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Post by: j-dub on October 19, 2014, 05:16:01 PM
Post by: Benja on October 19, 2014, 05:20:14 PM
Yeah, not worried at all about ranking right now since we still have Baylor, WVU and TCU on the road.
I'm not sure your post makes sense.
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 19, 2014, 05:22:13 PM
If you really want to get mad, check out ESPN's FPI (http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings)
I could crap out a better ranking system than that. The way they have been pimping that thing combined with it being introduced the same year as the playoff is a little too coincidental.
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 19, 2014, 05:22:53 PM
Yeah, not worried at all about ranking right now since we still have Baylor, WVU and TCU on the road.
I'm not sure your post makes sense.
What?
Post by: sunny_cat on October 19, 2014, 05:23:10 PM
Yeah, not worried at all about ranking right now since we still have Baylor, WVU and TCU on the road.
I'm not sure your post makes sense.
think he means winning those games will move us up in the rankings to where we need to be for the cfb playoff. doesn't matter as much if we're not there yet.
Post by: Benja on October 19, 2014, 05:23:42 PM
Yeah, not worried at all about ranking right now since we still have Baylor, WVU and TCU on the road.
I'm not sure your post makes sense.
What?
You should care about the rankings now. Right this moment. Fear the beard.
Post by: DQ12 on October 19, 2014, 05:24:06 PM
I think I remember reading that it factors in (their) recruiting rankings into it too. The thing was broken as hell from the beginning. And it's still broken halfway through the season.If you really want to get mad, check out ESPN's FPI (http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings)
I could crap out a better ranking system than that. The way they have been pimping that thing combined with it being introduced the same year as the playoff is a little too coincidental.
Post by: Benja on October 19, 2014, 05:25:36 PM
Yeah, not worried at all about ranking right now since we still have Baylor, WVU and TCU on the road.
I'm not sure your post makes sense.
think he means winning those games will move us up in the rankings to where we need to be for the cfb playoff. doesn't matter as much if we're not there yet.
True. Great post mixberry, in hindsight.
Post by: DQ12 on October 19, 2014, 05:30:42 PM
Post by: sunny_cat on October 19, 2014, 05:32:02 PM
Being ranked high is fun. It's one of the only reasons I even pay attention to Cats sports.
I think it's more fun to win every week and climb up a couple spots each week like in 2012. jmho. #1 heading into Waco again? :surprised:
Post by: j-dub on October 19, 2014, 05:34:44 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on October 19, 2014, 05:37:16 PM
Being ranked high is fun. It's one of the only reasons I even pay attention to Cats sports.
I think it's more fun to win every week and climb up a couple spots each week like in 2012. jmho. #1 heading into Waco again? :surprised:
doubt it. FSU's dog crap schedule won't have another L on it.
Post by: sunny_cat on October 19, 2014, 05:39:10 PM
Being ranked high is fun. It's one of the only reasons I even pay attention to Cats sports.
I think it's more fun to win every week and climb up a couple spots each week like in 2012. jmho. #1 heading into Waco again? :surprised:
doubt it. FSU's dog crap schedule won't have another L on it.
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:pray:
Post by: ednksu on October 19, 2014, 05:43:22 PM
Post by: kim carnes on October 19, 2014, 05:45:32 PM
Yeah, not worried at all about ranking right now since we still have Baylor, WVU and TCU on the road.
I'm not sure your post makes sense.
think he means winning those games will move us up in the rankings to where we need to be for the cfb playoff. doesn't matter as much if we're not there yet.
True. Great post mixberry, in hindsight.
he didn't make that post, i did and he agreed with me, so if you're going to give credit to someone, give credit to me.
Post by: kim carnes on October 19, 2014, 05:46:08 PM
the rankings will work themselves out
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 19, 2014, 05:46:59 PM
Being ranked high is fun. It's one of the only reasons I even pay attention to Cats sports.
I think it's more fun to win every week and climb up a couple spots each week like in 2012. jmho. #1 heading into Waco again? :surprised:
doubt it. FSU's dog crap schedule won't have another L on it.
Virginia might give them problems but probably not .
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 20, 2014, 08:34:51 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 20, 2014, 08:51:16 AM
royals WS champs and k-state cats football NATTY in the same year. it's happening. god knows we've earned it.
Sporting MLS Cup Back2Back also!
Post by: kslim on October 20, 2014, 09:02:21 AM
Post by: GoodForAnother on October 20, 2014, 09:13:11 AM
The only poll that matters is on oct 28th going forward. Stop all this nonsense
yep, next week we find out how fair the committee is going to be. I would love nothing more than for the AP/Coaches in football to become just as meaningless as the basketball rankings.
Post by: TownieCat on October 20, 2014, 09:18:56 AM
@mortreport: Archie Manning resigning from @CFBPlayoff committee to focus on health due to complications from knee replacement surgery
Post by: MadCat on October 20, 2014, 09:23:20 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 20, 2014, 09:48:42 AM
Maybe we can get a Big 12 homer in place. Adrian Peterson? :whistle1:
DeLoss DaBoss
Post by: CNS on October 20, 2014, 09:49:22 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 20, 2014, 09:50:25 AM
Post by: steve dave on October 20, 2014, 09:50:34 AM
Post by: CNS on October 20, 2014, 09:51:29 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 20, 2014, 09:53:07 AM
They're not replacing him.
We know WackCatFanMan, we're just having fun
For real, though, Mack should be on that committee.
DeLoss would be better
Post by: MakeItRain on October 20, 2014, 10:01:00 AM
complaining about SEC bias on tv and in the polls is about as iowa state'y as it gets guys. get it together.
I don't think anyone itt mentioned a SEC bias but there is absolutely confirmation bias at play. All of the one loss SEC teams are a sign of balance but the one loss Big 12 and Pac 12 teams is a sign of the teams being tragically flawed.
And being Iowa State'y for us in this instance would be having two losses in a three way tie for the Big 12 Conference but complaining that we didn't get into the playoff because of a SEC bias.
Post by: GoodForAnother on October 20, 2014, 10:28:33 AM
complaining about SEC bias on tv and in the polls is about as iowa state'y as it gets guys. get it together.
meh, there's a bias, it isn't as bad as some folks make it out to be, but it's there. I don't feel there should be five SEC teams ranked ahead of the highest ranked Big 12 team.
the most upsetting thing to me is a losery big 10 team being ranked ahead of the highest ranked big 12 team and, (in the coaches poll) being ranked ahead of a team they already lost to.
Post by: michigancat on October 20, 2014, 10:34:24 AM
complaining about SEC bias on tv and in the polls is about as iowa state'y as it gets guys. get it together.
I don't think anyone itt mentioned a SEC bias but there is absolutely confirmation bias at play. All of the one loss SEC teams are a sign of balance but the one loss Big 12 and Pac 12 teams is a sign of the teams being tragically flawed.
IMO it all goes back to the way they schedule - it's a trickle-down effect for having a "Top 10" South Carolina playing a "ranked" aTm right off the bat. Neither of these teams deserved to be ranked, but the teams that kicked the crap out of them got victories over "top 10 teams" in the eyes of the pollsters.
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2014, 10:35:40 AM
Post by: kslim on October 20, 2014, 10:38:08 AM
agreed 100% its a bias that probably gets blown out of proportion sometimes and the SEC is overrated but our beef should be with teams ahead of us that are clearly overrated. Georgia lost to South Carolina who is putrid. Ohio state? Same thing, vt is not very good. Norte dame only has one good win vs a mediocre Stanford team and Oregon was embarrassed by Arizona. None of that really matters tho, we will see the real poll on Tuesday the 28th and the real gripes can startcomplaining about SEC bias on tv and in the polls is about as iowa state'y as it gets guys. get it together.
meh, there's a bias, it isn't as bad as some folks make it out to be, but it's there. I don't feel there should be five SEC teams ranked ahead of the highest ranked Big 12 team.
the most upsetting thing to me is a losery big 10 team being ranked ahead of the highest ranked big 12 team and, (in the coaches poll) being ranked ahead of a team they already lost to.
Post by: michigancat on October 20, 2014, 10:42:08 AM
also as to computers: most of the SEC teams don't play an FCS team until later in the season, so that helps their SOS
Yes, great point. They just play the scheduling game better than anyone. Those November FCS games are horseshit as an outsider but brilliant if you're an SEC fan.
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2014, 10:46:45 AM
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2014, 10:48:36 AM
another thing is, the SEC is really rough ridin' good.
i mean, relative to the last few years. The gap between the SEC and the next conference is huge this year. in 2012, the Big 12 & SEC were neck and neck.
Post by: Panjandrum on October 20, 2014, 10:58:39 AM
another thing is, the SEC is really rough ridin' good.
Eh, the West has four really good teams. Georgia is okay, but the rest of the East is a tire fire.
Four teams in the West could win the Big 12. 5-6 teams in the Big 12 could win the East, and 1 or 2 in the Big 12 could be very competitive in the West.
Post by: CNS on October 20, 2014, 11:05:23 AM
also as to computers: most of the SEC teams don't play an FCS team until later in the season, so that helps their SOS
Yes, great point. They just play the scheduling game better than anyone. Those November FCS games are horseshit as an outsider but brilliant if you're an SEC fan.
It is brilliant, but it is also a little bit of a chicken and egg thing. It only really works if teams are highly ranked, or over ranked, at the beginning of the season. If you have teams in the high teens, lower twenties, then the view is that the losing team was over rated rather than the winning team being better than the low ranking.
When you have teams in the top 5 or top 10, they discuss the game and it's outcomes in a different light.
Post by: kslim on October 20, 2014, 11:18:18 AM
if baylor wins against wvu and arky doesn't go full Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) the big 12 is in the drivers seat. aTm is a rough ridin' joke and should even be considered a good win at this point, ole miss and msu are good but will each have two losses by the end of the year. And with that point I think there isn't a team in the Sec with only one loss at the end of the yearanother thing is, the SEC is really rough ridin' good.
i mean, relative to the last few years. The gap between the SEC and the next conference is huge this year. in 2012, the Big 12 & SEC were neck and neck.
Post by: Skipper44 on October 20, 2014, 11:30:49 AM
I would say the Big 12 has at least 4 teams that could win the West and WVU was very competitive in a virtual road vs Bama.another thing is, the SEC is really rough ridin' good.
Eh, the West has four really good teams. Georgia is okay, but the rest of the East is a tire fire.
Four teams in the West could win the Big 12. 5-6 teams in the Big 12 could win the East, and 1 or 2 in the Big 12 could be very competitive in the West.
I will hand it to the SEC media machine, they have kept the propaganda going for the Miss schools just as heavily as they have for the traditional powers and that is one more thing we could learn from them. Just because UT is down and OU is having a stealth rebuilding year doesn't mean the conference has to take a back seat.
I would like to think that the selection committee makes the polls and the lack of air time on ESPN and the lack of primetime games meaningless but two SEC West teams in the playoff feels inevitable.
Post by: GoodForAnother on October 20, 2014, 11:32:42 AM
Post by: steve dave on October 20, 2014, 11:39:05 AM
this is why I wanted the Big 12 to beat Auburn and Bama so badly this year but it just wasn't meant to be apparently
I mean, two of the better SEC teams beat two of the better B12 teams on the road and at a neutral site. The SEC is just better. Sucks for us but it is what it is.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 20, 2014, 11:45:39 AM
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2014, 11:47:47 AM
this is why I wanted the Big 12 to beat Auburn and Bama so badly this year but it just wasn't meant to be apparently
I mean, two of the better SEC teams beat two of the better B12 teams on the road and at a neutral site. The SEC is just better. Sucks for us but it is what it is.
also the 3rd worst SEC team tore apart the 3rd worst B12 team on the road, so there should be no "top heavy" complainers either
Post by: michigancat on October 20, 2014, 01:10:59 PM
also as to computers: most of the SEC teams don't play an FCS team until later in the season, so that helps their SOS
Yes, great point. They just play the scheduling game better than anyone. Those November FCS games are horseshit as an outsider but brilliant if you're an SEC fan.
It is brilliant, but it is also a little bit of a chicken and egg thing. It only really works if teams are highly ranked, or over ranked, at the beginning of the season. If you have teams in the high teens, lower twenties, then the view is that the losing team was over rated rather than the winning team being better than the low ranking.
yeah. Basically, preseason polls shouldn't be allowed and the NCAA should schedule all games (including OOC) NFL style.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 20, 2014, 01:22:10 PM
this is why I wanted the Big 12 to beat Auburn and Bama so badly this year but it just wasn't meant to be apparently
I mean, two of the better SEC teams beat two of the better B12 teams on the road and at a neutral site. The SEC is just better. Sucks for us but it is what it is.
also the 3rd worst SEC team tore apart the 3rd worst B12 team on the road, so there should be no "top heavy" complainers either
Is Arkansas really the third worst SEC team? Florida, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Kentucky, South Carolina, and Missouri all seem to be about at the same level as Arkansas to me.
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2014, 01:38:23 PM
this is why I wanted the Big 12 to beat Auburn and Bama so badly this year but it just wasn't meant to be apparently
I mean, two of the better SEC teams beat two of the better B12 teams on the road and at a neutral site. The SEC is just better. Sucks for us but it is what it is.
also the 3rd worst SEC team tore apart the 3rd worst B12 team on the road, so there should be no "top heavy" complainers either
Is Arkansas really the third worst SEC team? Florida, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Kentucky, South Carolina, and Missouri all seem to be about at the same level as Arkansas to me.
it's arguable.
Snowbrag has only Tennessee and Vanderbilt worse.
Sagarin has South Carolina, Kentucky and Vanderbilt worse
Massey has Tennessee, Florida, Kentucky, and Vanderbilt worse.
Post by: kso_FAN on October 22, 2014, 09:35:59 AM
a) The Cats have performed better than any other Big 12 team considering their schedule to this point.
b) The Cats have the 2nd toughest remaining schedule of any Big 12 team (behind only OSU).
c) The FEI ratings from footballoutsiders are much more kind to the Cats that S&P ratings.
Post by: Panjandrum on October 22, 2014, 10:02:21 AM
More on SOS: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/fei-ratings/2014/fei-week-8
a) The Cats have preformed better than any other Big 12 team considering their schedule to this point.
b) The Cats have the 2nd toughest remaining schedule of any Big 12 team (behind only OSU).
c) The FEI ratings from footballoutsiders are much more kind to the Cats that S&P ratings.
5.4% chance of winning out!
:billdance:
Post by: Bookcat on October 23, 2014, 09:41:12 AM
Undefeated and the rest of the conference STILL thinks that Kstate doesn't have a chance.
How does Snyds do that? He schemes his own fans!!!
Post by: bshea85 on October 26, 2014, 02:40:16 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on October 26, 2014, 02:44:25 PM
Wow, KSU moves nowhere after shutting out Texas. I get that UT sucks, but seriously, shutting out any team is noteworthy. Meanwhile, Ole Miss drops only to #7 after losing to LSU? They were only able to put 7 pts. up on LSU. Even Florida put up more pts. on LSU than Ole Miss' and Florida is a disaster. WTF?
We actually picked up votes in both polls. However, you don't really see that we widened our lead on Baylor and OSU because we didn't shift up or down any spots.
Ole Miss wasn't going to go from 3rd to 11th. You aren't going to drop eight spots losing by a FG in Death Valley.
Post by: Tobias on October 26, 2014, 02:46:01 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on October 26, 2014, 02:47:11 PM
i have no zeal
Post by: star seed 7 on October 26, 2014, 02:47:20 PM
seems fine to me
Yeah
Post by: Panjandrum on October 26, 2014, 02:50:52 PM
#10 TCU
#11 KSU
#12 Baylor
#19 OU
#20 WVU
Aside from the SEC West, no one faces a bigger murderer's row than that.
Post by: KITNfury on October 26, 2014, 02:58:05 PM
The Big 12 has five teams in the 10-20 range (AP):Add to the fact that we win out and beat each of those on the road, we can't be kept out of the playoffs.
#10 TCU
#11 KSU
#12 Baylor
#19 OU
#20 WVU
Aside from the SEC West, no one faces a bigger murderer's row than that.
Post by: pvegs on October 26, 2014, 03:52:21 PM
Post by: GoodForAnother on October 26, 2014, 04:22:34 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on October 26, 2014, 04:24:11 PM
TCU is a little underranked to me. Otherwise, the poll seems about right.
Losing a 21 point 4th quarter lead and giving up 61 points will lead people to rank you behind other respectable football teams.
Post by: michigancat on October 26, 2014, 05:27:49 PM
really don't understand getting worked up at all over these rankings. save your zeal for Tuesday.
As we've discussed, the committee will just copy these rankings.
Post by: GoodForAnother on October 26, 2014, 06:56:52 PM
really don't understand getting worked up at all over these rankings. save your zeal for Tuesday.
As we've discussed, the committee will just copy these rankings.
I'm choosing to be hopeful for a couple more days ok
Post by: michigancat on October 26, 2014, 06:59:33 PM
really don't understand getting worked up at all over these rankings. save your zeal for Tuesday.
As we've discussed, the committee will just copy these rankings.
I'm choosing to be hopeful for a couple more days ok
might we well save it until all the regular season games have been played, zeal bank
Post by: GoodForAnother on October 26, 2014, 07:02:01 PM
really don't understand getting worked up at all over these rankings. save your zeal for Tuesday.
As we've discussed, the committee will just copy these rankings.
I'm choosing to be hopeful for a couple more days ok
might we well save it until all the regular season games have been played, zeal bank
that won't do much to stimulate the zeal economy
Post by: KITNfury on October 26, 2014, 07:05:16 PM
really don't understand getting worked up at all over these rankings. save your zeal for Tuesday.Those won't matter either. We win it, we'll be selected. If we don't, we won't.
I mean if someone wants to argue that we win out and won't get selected I'll enjoy laughing at them.
Post by: cfbandyman on October 26, 2014, 07:07:59 PM
The Big 12 has five teams in the 10-20 range (AP):Add to the fact that we win out and beat each of those on the road, we can't be kept out of the playoffs.
#10 TCU
#11 KSU
#12 Baylor
#19 OU
#20 WVU
Aside from the SEC West, no one faces a bigger murderer's row than that.
Fact, they will not leave us out if we accomplish that.
TCU is a little underranked to me. Otherwise, the poll seems about right.
Could agree with that, but they probably couldn't get higher than like 7.
seems fine to me
Yeah
Yup, we weren't going to move, very little happened above us.
Post by: sak on October 26, 2014, 09:12:42 PM
Would the entire country be outraged if an Auburn team that didn't win their division made the playoff while Kansas State went 9-0 in conference was left out?
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 26, 2014, 09:18:56 PM
Post by: sak on October 26, 2014, 09:25:51 PM
It's comical that uga and Michigan state are ranked higher than we are.
michigan state certainly. the fact they are as high as #5 is mindblowing. they have one win over a top 75 team and were beaten soundly by the only team that has any chance of reaching the playoff.
i think you could make an argument for georgia though. clemson is quietly winning, and georgia throttled them. i know people will say that loss to south carolina is terrible, but south carolina really isn't that bad. they have 2 wins over ranked teams and played auburn close.
the fact that oklahoma tripped against tcu before ya'll played them probably hurts you a little now, but by that same token will give you a bigger boost if you beat them on the road.
Post by: Katpappy on October 26, 2014, 09:33:37 PM
sak, what team are you a fan of, my man? :dunno:It's comical that uga and Michigan state are ranked higher than we are.
michigan state certainly. the fact they are as high as #5 is mindblowing. they have one win over a top 75 team and were beaten soundly by the only team that has any chance of reaching the playoff.
i think you could make an argument for georgia though. clemson is quietly winning, and georgia throttled them. i know people will say that loss to south carolina is terrible, but south carolina really isn't that bad. they have 2 wins over ranked teams and played auburn close.
the fact that oklahoma tripped against tcu before ya'll played them probably hurts you a little now, but by that same token will give you a bigger boost if you beat them on the road.
Post by: sak on October 26, 2014, 09:43:57 PM
sak, what team are you a fan of, my man? :dunno:It's comical that uga and Michigan state are ranked higher than we are.
michigan state certainly. the fact they are as high as #5 is mindblowing. they have one win over a top 75 team and were beaten soundly by the only team that has any chance of reaching the playoff.
i think you could make an argument for georgia though. clemson is quietly winning, and georgia throttled them. i know people will say that loss to south carolina is terrible, but south carolina really isn't that bad. they have 2 wins over ranked teams and played auburn close.
the fact that oklahoma tripped against tcu before ya'll played them probably hurts you a little now, but by that same token will give you a bigger boost if you beat them on the road.
auburn
Post by: Katpappy on October 26, 2014, 10:06:20 PM
Oh, I forgot we'd played your team. Do you think your team will make it to the CFP?sak, what team are you a fan of, my man? :dunno:It's comical that uga and Michigan state are ranked higher than we are.
michigan state certainly. the fact they are as high as #5 is mindblowing. they have one win over a top 75 team and were beaten soundly by the only team that has any chance of reaching the playoff.
i think you could make an argument for georgia though. clemson is quietly winning, and georgia throttled them. i know people will say that loss to south carolina is terrible, but south carolina really isn't that bad. they have 2 wins over ranked teams and played auburn close.
the fact that oklahoma tripped against tcu before ya'll played them probably hurts you a little now, but by that same token will give you a bigger boost if you beat them on the road.
auburn
Post by: doom on October 26, 2014, 10:15:35 PM
The Big 12 has five teams in the 10-20 range (AP):Add to the fact that we win out and beat each of those on the road, we can't be kept out of the playoffs.
#10 TCU
#11 KSU
#12 Baylor
#19 OU
#20 WVU
Aside from the SEC West, no one faces a bigger murderer's row than that.
We aren't going to win out, dumbass.
Post by: KITNfury on October 26, 2014, 10:37:46 PM
I thought the if was obviously implied. Guess notThe Big 12 has five teams in the 10-20 range (AP):Add to the fact that we win out and beat each of those on the road, we can't be kept out of the playoffs.
#10 TCU
#11 KSU
#12 Baylor
#19 OU
#20 WVU
Aside from the SEC West, no one faces a bigger murderer's row than that.
We aren't going to win out, dumbass.
Post by: sak on October 26, 2014, 11:14:02 PM
Oh, I forgot we'd played your team. Do you think your team will make it to the CFP?sak, what team are you a fan of, my man? :dunno:It's comical that uga and Michigan state are ranked higher than we are.
michigan state certainly. the fact they are as high as #5 is mindblowing. they have one win over a top 75 team and were beaten soundly by the only team that has any chance of reaching the playoff.
i think you could make an argument for georgia though. clemson is quietly winning, and georgia throttled them. i know people will say that loss to south carolina is terrible, but south carolina really isn't that bad. they have 2 wins over ranked teams and played auburn close.
the fact that oklahoma tripped against tcu before ya'll played them probably hurts you a little now, but by that same token will give you a bigger boost if you beat them on the road.
auburn
my gut says no. still have 3 road games left against top 10 opponents. hard to see auburn winning all 3 of them, and though i think auburn would deserve consideration even with 2 losses given their schedule, they would need a lot of help.
but if they win out, even if they don't win their division in the SEC, they'll be in the playoff.
Post by: The Big Train on October 27, 2014, 01:00:09 AM
Oh, I forgot we'd played your team. Do you think your team will make it to the CFP?sak, what team are you a fan of, my man? :dunno:It's comical that uga and Michigan state are ranked higher than we are.
michigan state certainly. the fact they are as high as #5 is mindblowing. they have one win over a top 75 team and were beaten soundly by the only team that has any chance of reaching the playoff.
i think you could make an argument for georgia though. clemson is quietly winning, and georgia throttled them. i know people will say that loss to south carolina is terrible, but south carolina really isn't that bad. they have 2 wins over ranked teams and played auburn close.
the fact that oklahoma tripped against tcu before ya'll played them probably hurts you a little now, but by that same token will give you a bigger boost if you beat them on the road.
auburn
my gut says no. still have 3 road games left against top 10 opponents. hard to see auburn winning all 3 of them, and though i think auburn would deserve consideration even with 2 losses given their schedule, they would need a lot of help.
but if they win out, even if they don't win their division in the SEC, they'll be in the playoff.
god i just wish i could be a fly on the wall for this kind of logic, flying unicorns on rainbows and stuff, man, must just be a rush
Post by: sak on October 27, 2014, 01:06:48 AM
Oh, I forgot we'd played your team. Do you think your team will make it to the CFP?sak, what team are you a fan of, my man? :dunno:It's comical that uga and Michigan state are ranked higher than we are.
michigan state certainly. the fact they are as high as #5 is mindblowing. they have one win over a top 75 team and were beaten soundly by the only team that has any chance of reaching the playoff.
i think you could make an argument for georgia though. clemson is quietly winning, and georgia throttled them. i know people will say that loss to south carolina is terrible, but south carolina really isn't that bad. they have 2 wins over ranked teams and played auburn close.
the fact that oklahoma tripped against tcu before ya'll played them probably hurts you a little now, but by that same token will give you a bigger boost if you beat them on the road.
auburn
my gut says no. still have 3 road games left against top 10 opponents. hard to see auburn winning all 3 of them, and though i think auburn would deserve consideration even with 2 losses given their schedule, they would need a lot of help.
but if they win out, even if they don't win their division in the SEC, they'll be in the playoff.
god i just wish i could be a fly on the wall for this kind of logic, flying unicorns on rainbows and stuff, man, must just be a rush
auburn has 5 road games against teams currently ranked in the top 11. yes, if they went 3-2 in those 5 games, and 7-0 in their other games, then i think they would deserve consideration over teams like michigan state who, somehow, will probably get into the playoff without a win over a legit top 15 opponent.
even a team like kansas state that plays a pretty good slate of teams would not have much of an argument over a 2 loss auburn imo.
Post by: The Big Train on October 27, 2014, 01:21:26 AM
Oh, I forgot we'd played your team. Do you think your team will make it to the CFP?sak, what team are you a fan of, my man? :dunno:It's comical that uga and Michigan state are ranked higher than we are.
michigan state certainly. the fact they are as high as #5 is mindblowing. they have one win over a top 75 team and were beaten soundly by the only team that has any chance of reaching the playoff.
i think you could make an argument for georgia though. clemson is quietly winning, and georgia throttled them. i know people will say that loss to south carolina is terrible, but south carolina really isn't that bad. they have 2 wins over ranked teams and played auburn close.
the fact that oklahoma tripped against tcu before ya'll played them probably hurts you a little now, but by that same token will give you a bigger boost if you beat them on the road.
auburn
my gut says no. still have 3 road games left against top 10 opponents. hard to see auburn winning all 3 of them, and though i think auburn would deserve consideration even with 2 losses given their schedule, they would need a lot of help.
but if they win out, even if they don't win their division in the SEC, they'll be in the playoff.
god i just wish i could be a fly on the wall for this kind of logic, flying unicorns on rainbows and stuff, man, must just be a rush
auburn has 5 road games against teams currently ranked in the top 11. yes, if they went 3-2 in those 5 games, and 7-0 in their other games, then i think they would deserve consideration over teams like michigan state who, somehow, will probably get into the playoff without a win over a legit top 15 opponent.
even a team like kansas state that plays a pretty good slate of teams would not have much of an argument over a 2 loss auburn imo.
:lol:
so i guess our road games mean nothing if we win out. btw watch out for the week before you play the tide, damn, what a tough game before your superbowl game. at least when we play ku its an actual FBS school
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Post by: sak on October 27, 2014, 01:28:29 AM
no, but i'd say 5 road games over top 11 teams would trump anything kansas state could do with their schedule... especially given the fact that auburn, you know... beat kansas state in their own building?
also, one of your bigger road games is against west virginia, a team beaten by a team on auburn's schedule.
i also think it is comical you mention the game before the tide.
auburn's november schedule includes 3 road games against top 10 teams. when many teams were opening up against a nobody, we opened up against arkansas, a team that laid waste to texas tech.
you can slice it however you want, but the reality is that while people whine about this great SEC bias, mathematical formulas and computers tell a very different story... a story that the SEC may actually be UNDERRATED compared to how the nation views them. take LSU for example... people were ready to dismiss them but the fact is they have a win over a top 10 team and their only 2 losses are to two teams that most computers agree are 2 of the 5 best if not #1 and #2 teams.
Post by: DQ12 on October 27, 2014, 01:37:47 AM
If they drop another game, then sorry but they're out (assuming there are 4 one loss/undefeated P5 teams).
Post by: The Big Train on October 27, 2014, 01:39:51 AM
also who's sock is this? just incredible work :thumbs:
Post by: sak on October 27, 2014, 01:42:09 AM
If Auburn wins out they should definitely be in the playoff (although losing by two scores, irregardlessly of who it was against is never a good look).
If they drop another game, then sorry but they're out (assuming there are 4 one loss/undefeated P5 teams).
this is such dumb logic if we are seeking out the 4 best teams for the playoff.
if ohio state or michigan state wins out and auburn goes 4-1 down the stretch, what would either of those big 10 teams done to make anyone think they are a better team than auburn?
look at michigan state... we are through week 9 and they have 1 win over a top 70 team.
ohio state has no wins over the top 30 but have lost at home to a team outside of the top 50.
Post by: sak on October 27, 2014, 01:43:57 AM
obviously you didn't see the TCU vs Tech game
also who's sock is this? just incredible work :thumbs:
Did I say TCU wasn't a good team? Did I say Arkansas is better than TCU?
If anything, that just illustrates my point. Arkansas is the worst team in the SEC West and they still manhandled Texas Tech. TCU might be the best team in the Big 12.
Post by: DQ12 on October 27, 2014, 02:14:19 AM
OK, so aside from total losses, what arbitrary metric should determine the rankings? Total number of wins against Massey top 70 teams? Total wins against top 20 teams? If the latter, then Alabama (who has zero) should be ranked somewhere around "receiving votes."If Auburn wins out they should definitely be in the playoff (although losing by two scores, irregardlessly of who it was against is never a good look).
If they drop another game, then sorry but they're out (assuming there are 4 one loss/undefeated P5 teams).
this is such dumb logic if we are seeking out the 4 best teams for the playoff.
if ohio state or michigan state wins out and auburn goes 4-1 down the stretch, what would either of those big 10 teams done to make anyone think they are a better team than auburn?
look at michigan state... we are through week 9 and they have 1 win over a top 70 team.
ohio state has no wins over the top 30 but have lost at home to a team outside of the top 50.
My point is, I agree that Auburn's schedule is far harder than Michigan State's, and harder than tOSU's to an even higher degree, but number of losses do and should matter.
Post by: sak on October 27, 2014, 03:08:30 AM
OK, so aside from total losses, what arbitrary metric should determine the rankings? Total number of wins against Massey top 70 teams? Total wins against top 20 teams? If the latter, then Alabama (who has zero) should be ranked somewhere around "receiving votes."If Auburn wins out they should definitely be in the playoff (although losing by two scores, irregardlessly of who it was against is never a good look).
If they drop another game, then sorry but they're out (assuming there are 4 one loss/undefeated P5 teams).
this is such dumb logic if we are seeking out the 4 best teams for the playoff.
if ohio state or michigan state wins out and auburn goes 4-1 down the stretch, what would either of those big 10 teams done to make anyone think they are a better team than auburn?
look at michigan state... we are through week 9 and they have 1 win over a top 70 team.
ohio state has no wins over the top 30 but have lost at home to a team outside of the top 50.
My point is, I agree that Auburn's schedule is far harder than Michigan State's, and harder than tOSU's to an even higher degree, but number of losses do and should matter.
of course number of losses matter, but i'd try and think what would their records be if their schedules were flipped. i'm pretty sure auburn would be undefeated with ohio state's schedule... after all, the best team they have faced so far is probably maryland... and i can safely say kansas state, mississippi state, and lsu are all tougher than that... and could make a pretty good case for south carolina and arkansas also being tougher than maryland.
ohio state on the other hand? what have they done to make me think they could beat any good team on auburn's schedule?
when your average conference opponent is ranked about 70th and auburn's average conference opponent is ranked inside around 20.
it's not like auburn's schedule is a little tougher than a big 10 schedule. they are miles apart. ohio state's schedule is honestly a lot closer to that of a nonAQ team than it is to Auburn's... and that's something really just based in dogma that the big 10 must be tougher than X, Y, or Z when the reality is the numbers don't bear it out. for instance, virtually every computer ranking shows louisiana tech being a better team than the majority of the big 10. people might poo poo that win, and i'm not saying it is impressive... but the fact remains that when fed the set of data we have so far on this season, they are better than michigan, illinois, purdue, northwestern, indiana...
Post by: KITNfury on October 27, 2014, 05:50:18 AM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 27, 2014, 09:05:02 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 27, 2014, 09:10:11 AM
I would trade our games at Baylor, West Virginia and TCU for games at Alabama, Ole Miss, and Georgia in a heart beat.
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 27, 2014, 09:34:38 AM
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Post by: MadCat on October 27, 2014, 11:20:47 AM
Post by: sak on October 27, 2014, 11:49:26 AM
I would trade our games at Baylor, West Virginia and TCU for games at Alabama, Ole Miss, and Georgia in a heart beat.
you do realize alabama beat west virginia, right?
Post by: ChiComCat on October 27, 2014, 11:51:40 AM
I would trade our games at Baylor, West Virginia and TCU for games at Alabama, Ole Miss, and Georgia in a heart beat.
you do realize alabama beat west virginia, right?
You're missing the point
Post by: sak on October 27, 2014, 11:53:09 AM
I would trade our games at Baylor, West Virginia and TCU for games at Alabama, Ole Miss, and Georgia in a heart beat.
you do realize alabama beat west virginia, right?
You're missing the point
what was the point? i thought it was that Baylor/West Virginia/TCU were tougher road games than Alabama/Ole Miss/Georgia.
Post by: Winters on October 27, 2014, 12:06:56 PM
You don't get itI would trade our games at Baylor, West Virginia and TCU for games at Alabama, Ole Miss, and Georgia in a heart beat.
you do realize alabama beat west virginia, right?
You're missing the point
what was the point? i thought it was that Baylor/West Virginia/TCU were tougher road games than Alabama/Ole Miss/Georgia.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on October 27, 2014, 12:36:11 PM
Post by: sak on October 27, 2014, 02:24:39 PM
sak really bringin the "law of transitive property of victory" smack and nobody can do anything about it. FACTS, DORKS!
what part of auburn beating kansas state on your own field involves the transitive property? if kstate and west virginia had beaten auburn and alabama respectively, and baylor had done something... ANYTHING... of note in nonconference play, it would be the big 12 with a logjam of teams in the top 10 instead of the SEC West.
Post by: Cire on October 27, 2014, 02:37:42 PM
Post by: sak on October 27, 2014, 02:40:51 PM
2 loss teams shouldn't get in if a team they lost to is in.
why? because losing to a team in the top 4 automatically means you can't be one of the 4 best teams in the country?
so hypothetically speaking if a team plays the most brutal schedule in the history of the sport and go 2-2 against the top 8, they shouldn't get in, just because one of the teams they lost to is in? what about if they've beaten 1 or even 2 of the other 3 supposedly "in" teams.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 27, 2014, 02:43:39 PM
2 loss teams shouldn't get in if a team they lost to is in.
why? because losing to a team in the top 4 automatically means you can't be one of the 4 best teams in the country?
so hypothetically speaking if a team plays the most brutal schedule in the history of the sport and go 2-2 against the top 8, they shouldn't get in, just because one of the teams they lost to is in? what about if they've beaten 1 or even 2 of the other 3 supposedly "in" teams.
Maybe they shouldn't have been dumbasses with their scheduling.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on October 27, 2014, 02:47:43 PM
2 loss teams shouldn't get in if a team they lost to is in.
why? because losing to a team in the top 4 automatically means you can't be one of the 4 best teams in the country?
so hypothetically speaking if a team plays the most brutal schedule in the history of the sport and go 2-2 against the top 8, they shouldn't get in, just because one of the teams they lost to is in? what about if they've beaten 1 or even 2 of the other 3 supposedly "in" teams.
maybe if they were actually that good they wouldn't have lost so many games? Just spit ballin here. Full disclosure: I am not one of the 12 committee members.
Post by: Jabeez on October 27, 2014, 03:50:41 PM
Post by: kslim on October 27, 2014, 03:56:55 PM
Post by: CNS on October 27, 2014, 04:09:17 PM
All of this is IMO, of course.
Post by: millertime on October 27, 2014, 05:10:12 PM
Post by: GoodForAnother on October 27, 2014, 05:16:59 PM
Post by: sak on October 28, 2014, 01:02:54 AM
I think a 3 or 4 loss big 12 champ should get in over a 2 loss auburn
if that 3 loss big 12 team lost all their games to top 10 teams on the road who were in playoff contention and that big 12 champ also went on the road and beat auburn in their own stadium, and the big 12 proved they were head and shoulders the best conference in the country, i would agree with you.
you suck at this.
Post by: sak on October 28, 2014, 01:07:27 AM
every power conf should have their champ represented in a form of playoffs. As long as that is an odd number, the top two should be represented.
All of this is IMO, of course.
so hypothetically speaking if the SEC champion went 8-4, including a 1-3 mark in nonconference play with losses to a couple bad teams in power conferences and a head to head loss against an 11-1 power 5 runner up, you think the SEC champion should get the nod over the 11-1 team? evne if the rest of the SEC also had numerous abysmal losses to FCS teams and poor non-power 5 teams?
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Post by: The Big Train on October 28, 2014, 09:06:11 AM
Post by: sak on October 28, 2014, 11:40:21 AM
Hey sak, how about you just win your conference and quit being butt hurt.
lol at holding teams in harder conferences to a higher standard.
Post by: sak on October 28, 2014, 11:41:37 AM
being second fiddle and an afterthought in your home state must suck sak
you mean like kansas state? when people think of athletics programs in kansas, i assure you they don't think of kansas state football first.
as for auburn, it softens the blow being second fiddle seeing as how we are reigning SEC champions.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 28, 2014, 11:42:07 AM
:confused:Hey sak, how about you just win your conference and quit being butt hurt.
lol at holding teams in harder conferences to a higher standard.
Post by: kso_FAN on October 28, 2014, 11:49:07 AM
The @CFBPlayoff committee members have literally checked their biases at the door. Time to #hangupthehats
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Post by: MadCat on October 28, 2014, 11:57:31 AM
Post by: Stevesie60 on October 28, 2014, 11:59:18 AM
Not sure those really are biases...
Nope, that's exactly how it works.
Post by: CNS on October 28, 2014, 11:59:56 AM
every power conf should have their champ represented in a form of playoffs. As long as that is an odd number, the top two should be represented.
All of this is IMO, of course.
so hypothetically speaking if the SEC champion went 8-4, including a 1-3 mark in nonconference play with losses to a couple bad teams in power conferences and a head to head loss against an 11-1 power 5 runner up, you think the SEC champion should get the nod over the 11-1 team? evne if the rest of the SEC also had numerous abysmal losses to FCS teams and poor non-power 5 teams?
Yes. Not the champ if you aren't the conf champ.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 28, 2014, 12:04:13 PM
Heather Dinich ?@CFBHeather 1h1 hour agoThat is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen.
The @CFBPlayoff committee members have literally checked their biases at the door. Time to #hangupthehats
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Post by: The Big Train on October 28, 2014, 12:13:16 PM
being second fiddle and an afterthought in your home state must suck sak
you mean like kansas state? when people think of athletics programs in kansas, i assure you they don't think of kansas state football first.
as for auburn, it softens the blow being second fiddle seeing as how we are reigning SEC champions.
ksu football is a national brand. this is best exemplified by our national prime time game this saturday against okie st. you know why the best game is in the prime time slot on abc? regardless of if you have a digital converter for old ppl that still have bunny ears, or casual fans, or hard core fans, the game on abc is available to them. that is a national brand.
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on October 28, 2014, 12:18:48 PM
ksu football is a national brand. this is best exemplified by our national prime time game this saturday against okie st. you know why the best game is in the prime time slot on abc? regardless of if you have a digital converter for old ppl that still have bunny ears, or casual fans, or hard core fans, the game on abc is available to them. that is a national brand.
It's not so much a national brand. It is more of a diploma mill with tons of graduates cleaning floors all over the country.
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on October 28, 2014, 12:22:34 PM
ksu football is a national brand. this is best exemplified by our national prime time game this saturday against okie st. you know why the best game is in the prime time slot on abc? regardless of if you have a digital converter for old ppl that still have bunny ears, or casual fans, or hard core fans, the game on abc is available to them. that is a national brand.
It's not so much a national brand. It is more of a diploma mill with tons of graduates cleaning floors all over the country.
It IS a national brand... It just kills you that over half the people filling AGCS on Nov. 8 will be K-State backers, doesn't it?
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on October 28, 2014, 12:25:47 PM
It IS a national brand... It just kills you that over half the people filling AGCS on Nov. 8 will be K-State backers, doesn't it?
If by half, you mean less than a fourth, then yes it pains me so much.
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on October 28, 2014, 12:28:24 PM
It IS a national brand... It just kills you that over half the people filling AGCS on Nov. 8 will be K-State backers, doesn't it?
If by half, you mean less than a fourth, then yes it pains me so much.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
We had roughly 2/3 last time. Will be no less than 50% again.
:buh-bye:
Post by: 'taterblast on October 28, 2014, 12:28:44 PM
:lol:
Post by: star seed 7 on October 28, 2014, 12:31:37 PM
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on October 28, 2014, 12:33:14 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
We had roughly 2/3 last time. Will be no less than 50% again.
:buh-bye:
You should lay off the bath salts because I was at that game and the pud purple fans (just so you're clear, the diploma mill known as kstate) were no where close to being 2/3 of the stadium.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 28, 2014, 12:35:05 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
We had roughly 2/3 last time. Will be no less than 50% again.
:buh-bye:
You should lay off the bath salts because I was at that game and the pud purple fans (just so you're clear, the diploma mill known as kstate) were no where close to being 2/3 of the stadium.
2/3 of the crowd, the stadium was only 2/3 full
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 28, 2014, 12:38:47 PM
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on October 28, 2014, 12:46:41 PM
Ft. Worth Bar owner told me last time I was there, that he just loved it when we came to town. He said the weekends K-State are in town (Cotton bowl, TCU, etc.) his bar sales almost triple from any other weekend. He said after the Cotton bowl, he made sure to make his bar a "K-State home bar" for the TCU game weekend, even tho he was a TCU grad. :lol: :kstategrad:
A Manhattan, Ks bar owner told me last time I was there that people in Manhattan are dumb and he couldn't wait until TCU was a member of the Big 12 so he could make his bar a TCU home bar for the TCU game weekend even though he was a diploma mill recipient.
Post by: steve dave on October 28, 2014, 12:47:56 PM
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on October 28, 2014, 12:49:18 PM
that one isn't true I bet
Yes, wackycat does seem like a bullshitter.
Post by: BackPayne on October 28, 2014, 12:49:50 PM
Ft. Worth Bar owner told me last time I was there, that he just loved it when we came to town. He said the weekends K-State are in town (Cotton bowl, TCU, etc.) his bar sales almost triple from any other weekend. He said after the Cotton bowl, he made sure to make his bar a "K-State home bar" for the TCU game weekend, even tho he was a TCU grad. :lol: :kstategrad:
A Manhattan, Ks bar owner told me last time I was there that people in Manhattan are dumb and he couldn't wait until TCU was a member of the Big 12 so he could make his bar a TCU home bar for the TCU game weekend even though he was a diploma mill recipient.
You're a dork.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 28, 2014, 12:50:46 PM
Post by: steve dave on October 28, 2014, 12:51:36 PM
that one isn't true I bet
Yes, wackycat does seem like a bullshitter.
omg, I was talking about yours. omg. :ROFL:
Post by: Benja on October 28, 2014, 01:05:11 PM
Heather Dinich ?@CFBHeather 1h1 hour ago
The @CFBPlayoff committee members have literally checked their biases at the door. Time to #hangupthehats
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lol
Post by: Benja on October 28, 2014, 01:06:29 PM
Ft. Worth Bar owner told me last time I was there, that he just loved it when we came to town. He said the weekends K-State are in town (Cotton bowl, TCU, etc.) his bar sales almost triple from any other weekend. He said after the Cotton bowl, he made sure to make his bar a "K-State home bar" for the TCU game weekend, even tho he was a TCU grad. :lol: :kstategrad:
A Manhattan, Ks bar owner told me last time I was there that people in Manhattan are dumb and he couldn't wait until TCU was a member of the Big 12 so he could make his bar a TCU home bar for the TCU game weekend even though he was a diploma mill recipient.
wow. you cut me deep with that story.
Post by: pissclams on October 28, 2014, 01:30:33 PM
jeff long, arkansas ad: pud sec shill, eff that guy. NOT ON OUR SIDE
barry alvarez, wisc ad: coached at k-state football sister school wisconsin, hired k-stater. ON OUR SIDE
lieutenant general mike gould, missles: two words, fort riley. ON OUR SIDE
pat haden, usc ad: probably went to very loud k-state/usc match up, cats won. ON OUR SIDE
tom jernstedt, former ncaa evp: oregon alum, loser at USA basketball. NOT ON OUR SIDE
oliver luck, ad wvu: could be related to goEMAW poster cDubya? if yes, ON OUR SIDE. if no, NOT ON OUR SIDE. UNKNOWN
tom osborne, nu ad: massive downgrade, old, shitty. NOT ON OUR SIDE
dan radakovich, clemson ad: another sec shill, yawn. NOT ON OUR SIDE
condoleezza rice, wtf? : too taco belly. NOT ON OUR SIDE
mike tranghese, big east guy: this man has no data in my dossier, UNKNOWN
steve weiberg, writer at KCMO public library: mu grad but lives in kc. might be prone to like the cats b/c cat/tiger friendship and bond? ON OUR SIDE
ty willingham, former coach, now works w/ First Tee: obvs connection to tiger woods, ON OUR SIDE
5 on our sides
5 not on our sides
2 unknown
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on October 28, 2014, 01:35:47 PM
Post by: kslim on October 28, 2014, 01:38:18 PM
Post by: manpow5 on October 28, 2014, 01:38:41 PM
Heather Dinich ?@CFBHeather 1h1 hour ago
The @CFBPlayoff committee members have literally checked their biases at the door. Time to #hangupthehats
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0_UtwxIYAEU_Bu.jpg)
:ROFL:
Doubt it.
Post by: cDubya on October 28, 2014, 01:41:30 PM
committee breakdown-
jeff long, arkansas ad: pud sec shill, eff that guy. NOT ON OUR SIDE
barry alvarez, wisc ad: coached at k-state football sister school wisconsin, hired k-stater. ON OUR SIDE
lieutenant general mike gould, missles: two words, fort riley. ON OUR SIDE
pat haden, usc ad: probably went to very loud k-state/usc match up, cats won. ON OUR SIDE
tom jernstedt, former ncaa evp: oregon alum, loser at USA basketball. NOT ON OUR SIDE
oliver luck, ad wvu: could be related to goEMAW poster cDubya? if yes, ON OUR SIDE. if no, NOT ON OUR SIDE. UNKNOWN
tom osborne, nu ad: massive downgrade, old, shitty. NOT ON OUR SIDE
dan radakovich, clemson ad: another sec shill, yawn. NOT ON OUR SIDE
condoleezza rice, wtf? : too taco belly. NOT ON OUR SIDE
mike tranghese, big east guy: this man has no data in my dossier, UNKNOWN
steve weiberg, writer at KCMO public library: mu grad but lives in kc. might be prone to like the cats b/c cat/tiger friendship and bond? ON OUR SIDE
ty willingham, former coach, now works w/ First Tee: obvs connection to tiger woods, ON OUR SIDE
5 on our sides
5 not on our sides
2 unknown
It pains me to admit it, but Ollie and myself are of no relation. I can put in a good word (after we see what happens on November 20), but no super-elite insider family strings to pull.
Amend the list as you see fit.
Post by: Benja on October 28, 2014, 01:45:55 PM
Post by: Spracne on October 28, 2014, 01:47:49 PM
Lets have a long, detailed discussion on how bad the committee is probably going to be and how under qualified they are and how we're going to disagree with all their rankings.
There will have to be at least 1 or 2 controversial/unconventional rankings in order to give the appearance that they are doing something other than looking at the polls. Who knows? Maybe the cats will be the beneficiary.
Post by: Benja on October 28, 2014, 01:48:24 PM
Post by: Benja on October 28, 2014, 01:49:23 PM
Post by: steve dave on October 28, 2014, 01:51:41 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on October 28, 2014, 01:52:58 PM
She's gonna be like all emotional with her picks probably, like a chick
She'll probably just ask her vagina. That's all they think with anyway.
Post by: steve dave on October 28, 2014, 01:53:22 PM
Quote from: barry alvarez ~3 times a week
that time of the month? :blah:
Post by: michigancat on October 28, 2014, 01:55:20 PM
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 28, 2014, 01:56:47 PM
She's gonna be like all emotional with her picks probably, like a chick
She probably didn't even play football, I bet.
Post by: cDubya on October 28, 2014, 01:57:21 PM
hopefully she's not pms'ing really bad when the cats are being discussed
She'll attract Baylor! :ohno:
Post by: Mr Bread on October 28, 2014, 01:58:27 PM
That's how it will go. A lot of that type of correcting. You have got to call her on it or she'll never settle in and talk some pigskin.
Post by: Benja on October 28, 2014, 01:59:38 PM
She's gonna be like all emotional with her picks probably, like a chick
She'll probably just ask her vagina. That's all they think with anyway.
Dude so true. Rice: "Oh no I had a bad day and and just finished a wine and movie night with the girls now I'm going to go change my rankings based on which coach is the hottest or something". I mean come on.
Post by: steve dave on October 28, 2014, 02:00:34 PM
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Post by: pissclams on October 28, 2014, 02:07:52 PM
re: tom jernstedt. They have Dana Altman who has taken them to the dance the past 2 years including a sweet 16 in 2012. TJ is in the bag.
altman and oscar = oil and vinegar, talking big time hate
jernstedt will do anything to hurt k-state
Post by: steve dave on October 28, 2014, 02:08:26 PM
Post by: Benja on October 28, 2014, 02:08:52 PM
Post by: michigancat on October 28, 2014, 02:11:48 PM
Then she'll probably try to bring the rough ridin' thing to the meetings and make everybody look at it. Women! :curse:
:sdeek:
Post by: Shooter Jones on October 28, 2014, 02:16:00 PM
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Post by: DQ12 on October 28, 2014, 02:21:23 PM
what's next, david pollack on the UN? :lol:
Post by: Benja on October 28, 2014, 02:25:54 PM
it does seem kind of dumb military guy and c. rice are on the committee.
what's next, david pollack on the UN? :lol:
She says she watches every game. But more like watches every Grey's Anatomy you know? :lol:
Post by: DQ12 on October 28, 2014, 02:34:45 PM
Post by: Brock Landers on October 28, 2014, 02:34:55 PM
committee breakdown-
jeff long, arkansas ad: pud sec shill, eff that guy. NOT ON OUR SIDE
barry alvarez, wisc ad: coached at k-state football sister school wisconsin, hired k-stater. ON OUR SIDE
lieutenant general mike gould, missles: two words, fort riley. ON OUR SIDE
pat haden, usc ad: probably went to very loud k-state/usc match up, cats won. ON OUR SIDE
tom jernstedt, former ncaa evp: oregon alum, loser at USA basketball. NOT ON OUR SIDE
oliver luck, ad wvu: could be related to goEMAW poster cDubya? if yes, ON OUR SIDE. if no, NOT ON OUR SIDE. UNKNOWN
tom osborne, nu ad: massive downgrade, old, shitty. NOT ON OUR SIDE
dan radakovich, clemson ad: another sec shill, yawn. NOT ON OUR SIDE
condoleezza rice, wtf? : too taco belly. NOT ON OUR SIDE OOS
mike tranghese, big east guy: this man has no data in my dossier, UNKNOWN
steve weiberg, writer at KCMO public library: mu grad but lives in kc. might be prone to like the cats b/c cat/tiger friendship and bond? ON OUR SIDE
ty willingham, former coach, now works w/ First Tee: obvs connection to tiger woods, ON OUR SIDE
5 on our sides
5 not on our sides
2 unknown
Pretty close, but hear me out:
Pat Haden - still mad about losing to us. NOT ON OUR SIDE
Oliver Luck - ON OUR SIDE even without being blood relative to cDubya
Condi Rice - chicks like cats. ON OUR SIDE
Revised tally:
6 ON OUR SIDES
5 NOT ON OUR SIDES
1 UNKNOWN
Post by: Skipper44 on October 28, 2014, 02:35:22 PM
I hope tom osborne calls her "sweetie" exclusivelyDr. Tom seems more like type say "Miss Rice" in a passive aggressive tone
Post by: AbeFroman on October 28, 2014, 02:38:02 PM
Post by: slucat on October 28, 2014, 02:58:57 PM
Post by: sunny_cat on October 28, 2014, 03:00:01 PM
:curse: :curse:
:lol:
Post by: KITNfury on October 28, 2014, 03:13:50 PM
:curse: :curse:See my sig, doll.
Post by: sunny_cat on October 28, 2014, 03:16:51 PM
:curse: :curse:See my sig, doll.
probably too mesmerized by the adorable kitten in your avi
Post by: Shooter Jones on October 28, 2014, 03:41:10 PM
:curse: :curse:See my sig, doll.
probably too mesmerized by the adorable kitten in your avi
probs distracted by the dozen screaming sucklings at her job.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 28, 2014, 03:43:22 PM
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Post by: Pete on October 28, 2014, 06:27:41 PM
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Post by: Pete on October 28, 2014, 06:36:10 PM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 28, 2014, 06:37:17 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on October 28, 2014, 06:38:58 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on October 28, 2014, 06:39:03 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 28, 2014, 06:40:20 PM
Post by: pvegs on October 28, 2014, 06:41:26 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on October 28, 2014, 06:41:32 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on October 28, 2014, 06:43:48 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on October 28, 2014, 06:43:58 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 28, 2014, 06:45:04 PM
I love the committee. It was necessary change moving to 4 teams. Just an absolutely perfect ranking.They get it! It showed with where Notre dame, Georgia, and Ohio State were ranked. I might be off the fence now.
Post by: BostonPancake on October 28, 2014, 06:48:05 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on October 28, 2014, 06:48:27 PM
Post by: AppleJack on October 28, 2014, 06:50:50 PM
Post by: millertime on October 28, 2014, 06:51:44 PM
Also, it's now very clear that if Matt McCrane was our kicker against Auburn then we are top 4.
Post by: ChiComCat on October 28, 2014, 06:52:37 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on October 28, 2014, 06:53:13 PM
Post by: GoodForAnother on October 28, 2014, 06:53:38 PM
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 28, 2014, 06:54:31 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on October 28, 2014, 06:55:17 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on October 28, 2014, 06:55:32 PM
hello everyone (how are you?) I have a dumb question. Do these rankings mean anything after the first 4? As in, at the end of the season, does being 5,6 or 7 get you to a better bowl? :dunno:Top ranked teams + conference champs + 1 mid major get what were the BCS spots no matter what, from my understanding
Post by: manpow5 on October 28, 2014, 06:56:07 PM
I don't get how you can justify Michigan State being at eight. Blown out by Oregon and only one decent win.
Don't have a problem with MSU being at 8. Just glad Ohio State finally got put in their place.
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 28, 2014, 06:56:35 PM
My god, Rece Davis can't keep our name out of his mouth. He really knows who the elites are
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on October 28, 2014, 06:57:03 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on October 28, 2014, 06:57:46 PM
Post by: manpow5 on October 28, 2014, 06:59:08 PM
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 28, 2014, 07:15:55 PM
Post by: GoodForAnother on October 28, 2014, 07:21:20 PM
tl;dr , will espn switch to playoff rankings now? On TV, score center, etc.
they'll use whichever ranking makes each particular matchup most appealing in a 15 second tv ad
Post by: Hurricane Cat on October 28, 2014, 07:37:04 PM
tl;dr , will espn switch to playoff rankings now? On TV, score center, etc.
yes they will, already stated they'll drop the AP ratings and use playoff rankings.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 28, 2014, 07:44:46 PM
tl;dr , will espn switch to playoff rankings now? On TV, score center, etc.
Their bottom line has already made the change when they have the listings for this weeks games
I like the rankings, my only beef is I think Oregon are overvalued.
Post by: Trogdor on October 28, 2014, 07:45:30 PM
Post by: DQ12 on October 28, 2014, 08:29:18 PM
Glad to see the committee is not impressed with ND's schedule to this point.
Post by: ChiComCat on October 28, 2014, 09:37:48 PM
tl;dr , will espn switch to playoff rankings now? On TV, score center, etc.
Their bottom line has already made the change when they have the listings for this weeks games
I like the rankings, my only beef is I think Oregon are overvalued.
Oregon so far above Arizona seems to be the only big inconsistency
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 28, 2014, 09:51:19 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 28, 2014, 09:52:49 PM
Post by: sunny_cat on October 28, 2014, 09:53:11 PM
Any poll that has kstate ranked lower than 1 is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
the word
Post by: Panjandrum on October 28, 2014, 10:02:51 PM
This committee could finally force ND to join a conference in football (or at the least schedule harder teams). ND will never get in with one loss.
UConn will do cartwheels that day.
Post by: Spracne on October 28, 2014, 10:20:28 PM
Any poll that has kstate ranked lower than 1 is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
Hey hey, some of my best KSU friends are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) :dubious:
Post by: Katpappy on October 28, 2014, 10:35:58 PM
Do you require your best friends to be Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)? Not that's there's anything wrong with that, cause retards are BFF's and seem to run in big circles around the KU campus. :DAny poll that has kstate ranked lower than 1 is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
Hey hey, some of my best KSU friends are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) :dubious:
Post by: Spracne on October 28, 2014, 10:37:32 PM
Do you require your best friends to be Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)? Not that's there's anything wrong with that, cause retards are BFF's and seem to run in big circles around the KU campus. :DAny poll that has kstate ranked lower than 1 is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
Hey hey, some of my best KSU friends are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) :dubious:
Leo DaV was probably a gay, did you know that?
Post by: Katpappy on October 28, 2014, 10:59:40 PM
I don't think he was a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) tho.Do you require your best friends to be Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)? Not that's there's anything wrong with that, cause retards are BFF's and seem to run in big circles around the KU campus. :DAny poll that has kstate ranked lower than 1 is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
Hey hey, some of my best KSU friends are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) :dubious:
Leo DaV was probably a gay, did you know that?
Post by: Panjandrum on October 28, 2014, 11:05:36 PM
Post by: Spracne on October 28, 2014, 11:16:10 PM
I don't think he was a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) tho.Do you require your best friends to be Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)? Not that's there's anything wrong with that, cause retards are BFF's and seem to run in big circles around the KU campus. :DAny poll that has kstate ranked lower than 1 is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
Hey hey, some of my best KSU friends are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) :dubious:
Leo DaV was probably a gay, did you know that?
I don't think they used that word back then, but no doubt he was . . . Touched.
Post by: AbeFroman on October 29, 2014, 03:44:13 AM
Post by: catzacker on October 29, 2014, 06:27:46 AM
1 - Are you a power 5 team with no losses?
2 - What is your best win(s)?
3 - What is your "best" loss(es)?
4 - Did you face a team close to you in head to head competition?
to me, these answered questions are, generally, why ksu is where it is, and why other teams are where they are.
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 29, 2014, 10:25:50 AM
It seems like the committee asked the following the questions:
1 - Are you a power 5 team with no losses?
2 - What is your best win(s)?
3 - What is your "best" loss(es)?
4 - Did you face a team close to you in head to head competition?
to me, these answered questions are, generally, why ksu is where it is, and why other teams are where they are.
I think they are being true to the emphasis on marquee OOC matchups and that's why Auburn is at 3. Prove to everyone that you can beat a good team out of conference and you will be ranked higher than the other teams with similar resumes. That's probably why Oregon is ranked so high even with a loss to Arizona.
Post by: sunny_cat on October 30, 2014, 07:55:55 PM
Being ranked high is fun. It's one of the only reasons I even pay attention to Cats sports.
I think it's more fun to win every week and climb up a couple spots each week like in 2012. jmho. #1 heading into Waco again? :surprised:
doubt it. FSU's dog crap schedule won't have another L on it.
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:pray:
:pray:
Post by: Katpappy on October 30, 2014, 08:00:44 PM
This is happening!!! :crossfingers:Being ranked high is fun. It's one of the only reasons I even pay attention to Cats sports.
I think it's more fun to win every week and climb up a couple spots each week like in 2012. jmho. #1 heading into Waco again? :surprised:
doubt it. FSU's dog crap schedule won't have another L on it.
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:pray:
:pray:
Post by: manpow5 on October 30, 2014, 09:21:38 PM
This is happening!!! :crossfingers:Being ranked high is fun. It's one of the only reasons I even pay attention to Cats sports.
I think it's more fun to win every week and climb up a couple spots each week like in 2012. jmho. #1 heading into Waco again? :surprised:
doubt it. FSU's dog crap schedule won't have another L on it.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fthumb%2F7%2F72%2FLouisville_Cardinals.svg%2F1174px-Louisville_Cardinals.svg.png&hash=3cdda6594c02751c685f8dd4ce97179689354478)
:pray:
:pray:
:dubious:
Post by: scottwildcat on October 30, 2014, 09:57:49 PM
Post by: cDubya on October 30, 2014, 10:01:01 PM
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 30, 2014, 10:04:40 PM
Post by: kim carnes on October 31, 2014, 12:05:44 AM
Florida State might end up being the worst team ever from a major conference to go undefeated in the regular season. What a garbage team led by a piece of trash human.
what a stupid post
Post by: Spracne on October 31, 2014, 12:11:51 AM
Florida State might end up being the worst team ever from a major conference to go undefeated in the regular season. What a garbage team led by a piece of trash human.
eff this post right in the pussy :comehere:
Post by: manpow5 on October 31, 2014, 12:33:31 AM
Post by: bones129 on October 31, 2014, 12:40:17 AM
Huh. Kim and Spracne are the same person. Who woulda thunk it. :Carl:
I don't think they are.
Post by: Boom Roasted on October 31, 2014, 07:32:40 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 31, 2014, 08:35:59 AM
Post by: Watershed on November 02, 2014, 12:10:16 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on November 02, 2014, 12:39:26 PM
AP Poll Top 10:
1. Mississippi St
2. Florida St
3. Auburn
4. Alabama
5. Oregon
6. TCU
7. Michigan St
8. Notre Dame
9. Kansas St
10. Baylor
Post by: eastcat on November 02, 2014, 12:46:23 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on November 02, 2014, 12:49:33 PM
Notre Dame barely beats a rough ridin' service academy and jumps us?
:facepalm:
Post by: 'taterblast on November 02, 2014, 12:50:22 PM
Notre Dame barely beats a rough ridin' service academy and jumps us?
they fell two spots in the AP. try to keep up.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 02, 2014, 01:02:44 PM
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on November 02, 2014, 01:06:53 PM
Post by: That_Guy on November 02, 2014, 01:12:50 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 02, 2014, 03:18:32 PM
AP doesn't even matter. Why worry?
We're not worried.
#WinAndWe'reIn
Post by: Panjandrum on November 02, 2014, 03:19:26 PM
AP doesn't even matter. Why worry?
No, but it's nice to be talked about as a Top Ten team no matter what poll you look at.
Post by: Frankenklein on November 04, 2014, 06:36:24 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on November 04, 2014, 06:39:08 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 04, 2014, 06:39:54 PM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on November 04, 2014, 06:40:52 PM
we beat TCU we will rise to number 4. Calling it now.
Let that sink in for a minute.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 04, 2014, 06:42:47 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on November 04, 2014, 06:44:50 PM
we beat TCU we will rise to number 4. Calling it now.
Let that sink in for a minute.
hmm actually i take it back idk if we will or not.
Post by: Frankenklein on November 04, 2014, 06:45:07 PM
Post by: Frankenklein on November 04, 2014, 06:46:25 PM
Go with your gutwe beat TCU we will rise to number 4. Calling it now.
Let that sink in for a minute.
hmm actually i take it back idk if we will or not.
Post by: HerrSonntag on November 04, 2014, 06:47:04 PM
Post by: hemmy on November 04, 2014, 06:50:01 PM
Post by: Demo158 on November 04, 2014, 06:50:55 PM
now is not the time for hesitation! :emawkid:we beat TCU we will rise to number 4. Calling it now.
Let that sink in for a minute.
hmm actually i take it back idk if we will or not.
Post by: HerrSonntag on November 04, 2014, 06:52:57 PM
Its pretty clear the BCS kicks the crap out of this dumbass system.When you have Herby saying things like "Yeah theres no evidence to support my position, but BAMA #1!!!!!one!!!!1!! But thats just how i feel" And that passes as constructive dialog, you know you've chosen poorly.
Post by: catzacker on November 04, 2014, 06:55:30 PM
Post by: Pete on November 04, 2014, 07:01:34 PM
Post by: KITNfury on November 04, 2014, 07:01:41 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 04, 2014, 07:02:24 PM
Post by: catastrophe on November 04, 2014, 07:04:54 PM
I bet we finish 5th this year.
Followed by Kansas State rule 2.0?
Post by: Demo158 on November 04, 2014, 07:09:56 PM
It feels good to control our own destiny. Serious question? Do we need Baylor to win this weekend?Unless one blows out the other, it seems pretty irrelevant at this point. I think the OU win will end up looking better than a Baylor win when all is said and done regardless of this weekends outcome.
Post by: catastrophe on November 04, 2014, 07:15:50 PM
It feels good to control our own destiny. Serious question? Do we need Baylor to win this weekend?
Not losing at this point is far more important than the quality of the games we win. If we win out to finish the season, two 1-loss teams above us are guaranteed to lose (TCU and loser of Auburn/Bama). Florida State looks like it is capable of losing any game down the stretch, and Oregon has some pretty big games looming (including potential re-match with the Arizona team that beat them).
Post by: jgtbh on November 04, 2014, 07:19:24 PM
It feels good to control our own destiny. Serious question? Do we need Baylor to win this weekend?
Not losing at this point is far more important than the quality of the games we win. If we win out to finish the season, two 1-loss teams above us are guaranteed to lose (TCU and loser of Auburn/Bama). Florida State looks like it is capable of losing any game down the stretch, and Oregon has some pretty big games looming (including potential re-match with the Arizona team that beat them).
any 1 loss Big XII Champion should be in the playoff
Post by: kim carnes on November 04, 2014, 07:26:41 PM
Post by: Pete on November 04, 2014, 07:28:22 PM
At a minimum we're losing to Baylor so none of this matters.
We'll be an underdog, no question about it. Indisputable.
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on November 04, 2014, 07:30:21 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on November 04, 2014, 07:32:24 PM
Post by: catastrophe on November 04, 2014, 07:32:36 PM
I can just see it now. We win out in impressive fashion only to finish fifth behind Oregon, FSU, Mississippi State and Auburn who also all win out.
Around this time every year all you hear is talk about what will happen if all the top 5/ top 10 win out. And every year pretty much everyone except 1 or 2 drops a game.
Post by: Katpappy on November 04, 2014, 07:32:48 PM
I can just see it now. We win out in impressive fashion only to finish fifth behind Oregon, FSU, Mississippi State and Auburn who also all win out.Let's hope Roll Tide takes care of the War Eagle Tigers for us.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 04, 2014, 07:33:27 PM
Post by: KITNfury on November 04, 2014, 07:35:18 PM
and will if it's us our TCU....and a very good chance Baylor would too. There are a lot of losses ahead. I wouldn't be the least bit shocked if a two loss team makes it.It feels good to control our own destiny. Serious question? Do we need Baylor to win this weekend?
Not losing at this point is far more important than the quality of the games we win. If we win out to finish the season, two 1-loss teams above us are guaranteed to lose (TCU and loser of Auburn/Bama). Florida State looks like it is capable of losing any game down the stretch, and Oregon has some pretty big games looming (including potential re-match with the Arizona team that beat them).
any 1 loss Big XII Champion should be in the playoff
Post by: Demo158 on November 04, 2014, 07:36:58 PM
Post by: Katpappy on November 04, 2014, 07:37:27 PM
Not gonna happen.and will if it's us our TCU....and a very good chance Baylor would too. There are a lot of losses ahead. I wouldn't be the least bit shocked if a two loss team makes it.It feels good to control our own destiny. Serious question? Do we need Baylor to win this weekend?
Not losing at this point is far more important than the quality of the games we win. If we win out to finish the season, two 1-loss teams above us are guaranteed to lose (TCU and loser of Auburn/Bama). Florida State looks like it is capable of losing any game down the stretch, and Oregon has some pretty big games looming (including potential re-match with the Arizona team that beat them).
any 1 loss Big XII Champion should be in the playoff
Post by: KITNfury on November 04, 2014, 07:49:03 PM
didn't predict it, but there's a lot of losses to be had.Not gonna happen.and will if it's us our TCU....and a very good chance Baylor would too. There are a lot of losses ahead. I wouldn't be the least bit shocked if a two loss team makes it.It feels good to control our own destiny. Serious question? Do we need Baylor to win this weekend?
Not losing at this point is far more important than the quality of the games we win. If we win out to finish the season, two 1-loss teams above us are guaranteed to lose (TCU and loser of Auburn/Bama). Florida State looks like it is capable of losing any game down the stretch, and Oregon has some pretty big games looming (including potential re-match with the Arizona team that beat them).
any 1 loss Big XII Champion should be in the playoff
Post by: cDubya on November 04, 2014, 08:27:25 PM
Not gonna happen.and will if it's us our TCU....and a very good chance Baylor would too. There are a lot of losses ahead. I wouldn't be the least bit shocked if a two loss team makes it.It feels good to control our own destiny. Serious question? Do we need Baylor to win this weekend?
Not losing at this point is far more important than the quality of the games we win. If we win out to finish the season, two 1-loss teams above us are guaranteed to lose (TCU and loser of Auburn/Bama). Florida State looks like it is capable of losing any game down the stretch, and Oregon has some pretty big games looming (including potential re-match with the Arizona team that beat them).
any 1 loss Big XII Champion should be in the playoff
It will happen before an undefeated Marshall team does.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 04, 2014, 08:52:59 PM
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on November 04, 2014, 09:01:25 PM
Not gonna happen.and will if it's us our TCU....and a very good chance Baylor would too. There are a lot of losses ahead. I wouldn't be the least bit shocked if a two loss team makes it.It feels good to control our own destiny. Serious question? Do we need Baylor to win this weekend?
Not losing at this point is far more important than the quality of the games we win. If we win out to finish the season, two 1-loss teams above us are guaranteed to lose (TCU and loser of Auburn/Bama). Florida State looks like it is capable of losing any game down the stretch, and Oregon has some pretty big games looming (including potential re-match with the Arizona team that beat them).
any 1 loss Big XII Champion should be in the playoff
It will happen before an undefeated Marshall team does.
If every other team had four losses Marshall still wouldn't get in. They have the worst schedule I've ever seen from a team claiming to be legitimate.
Post by: EMAWmeister on November 04, 2014, 09:04:14 PM
What if?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2014, 09:04:54 PM
I can just see it now. We win out in impressive fashion only to finish fifth behind Oregon, FSU, Mississippi State and Auburn who also all win out.
Does it take effort to be this stupid?
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on November 04, 2014, 09:23:45 PM
I can just see it now. We win out in impressive fashion only to finish fifth behind Oregon, FSU, Mississippi State and Auburn who also all win out.
Does it take effort to be this stupid?
I can only imagine how shitty your life must be to be as big of a douche bag as you are.
Post by: The Big Train on November 04, 2014, 09:33:40 PM
All this banter reminds me so much of November 2012
too soon you piece of crap
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 04, 2014, 09:37:27 PM
Post by: Katpappy on November 04, 2014, 09:38:37 PM
If we win out it will largely depend on who else in front of us loses as to whether we make the playoffs (John Madden voice).If we beat TCU, we'll be top 5. :dance:
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 04, 2014, 09:42:28 PM
I can just see it now. We win out in impressive fashion only to finish fifth behind Oregon, FSU, Mississippi State and Auburn who also all win out.
Does it take effort to be this stupid?
I feel stupid asking, but why is this stupid?
Post by: The Big Train on November 04, 2014, 09:46:12 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on November 04, 2014, 09:54:32 PM
We are getting a ton of mileage out of that Auburn loss. And it looks like those stupid rough ridin' coaches are using the eyeball test to make them feel good and self important.
Yeah, the "eyeball test" is about as dumb as you can get for a reason to judge a team. (Good or bad)
Post by: sunny_cat on November 04, 2014, 09:56:20 PM
We are getting a ton of mileage out of that Auburn loss. And it looks like those stupid rough ridin' coaches are using the eyeball test to make them feel good and self important.
Yeah, the "eyeball test" is about as dumb as you can get for a reason to judge a team. (Good or bad)
Herbstreit's favorite two words
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on November 04, 2014, 10:19:38 PM
We are getting a ton of mileage out of that Auburn loss. And it looks like those stupid rough ridin' coaches are using the eyeball test to make them feel good and self important.
Yeah, the "eyeball test" is about as dumb as you can get for a reason to judge a team. (Good or bad)
Aside from the A&M game I don't see how anyone can say Alabama has looked like a top five team. They are really reaching on that justification.
Post by: HerrSonntag on November 04, 2014, 10:22:53 PM
I think we jump to that 4 spot, even if every other team (besides TCU of course) wins. Theres a dog-and-pony aspect of this CFP introduction i think we're discounting. They want everything to look legit, that they are judging only on quality wins, wherever possible. Wagering that Baylor will once again save the system from the travesty of a KSU team up on top, they'll toss us a bone and ride out the system to our inevitable letdown we've all become so familiar with.If we win out it will largely depend on who else in front of us loses as to whether we make the playoffs (John Madden voice).If we beat TCU, we'll be top 5. :dance:
Post by: Trogdor on November 04, 2014, 10:50:15 PM
Post by: The Big Train on November 04, 2014, 10:54:45 PM
I think we jump to that 4 spot, even if every other team (besides TCU of course) wins. Theres a dog-and-pony aspect of this CFP introduction i think we're discounting. They want everything to look legit, that they are judging only on quality wins, wherever possible. Wagering that Baylor will once again save the system from the travesty of a KSU team up on top, they'll toss us a bone and ride out the system to our inevitable letdown we've all become so familiar with.If we win out it will largely depend on who else in front of us loses as to whether we make the playoffs (John Madden voice).If we beat TCU, we'll be top 5. :dance:
you're adopted
Post by: HerrSonntag on November 04, 2014, 11:26:48 PM
Post by: Tobias on November 04, 2014, 11:44:16 PM
Post by: The Big Train on November 04, 2014, 11:53:11 PM
Post by: 75cat on November 05, 2014, 06:37:02 AM
I can just see it now. We win out in impressive fashion only to finish fifth behind Oregon, FSU, Mississippi State and Auburn who also all win out.I'm not sold on Oregon and especially not on the Mariota bandwagon, FSU has a lucky rabbit's foot this year so I would not bet against them, if Mississippi State has injuries, which it appears that they do, I cannot imagine MSU going in to Tuscaloosa and Oxford and winning both places. While I would prefer Auburn over Bama they have to run out of luck some time (think 100 missed FG return, KSU choking, and a lucky fumble at Ole Miss). But in any case I would be able to accept those 4 in the playoff's with KSU looking in so long as ND is no where in sight.
Post by: catzacker on November 05, 2014, 06:45:52 AM
We are getting a ton of mileage out of that Auburn loss. And it looks like those stupid rough ridin' coaches are using the eyeball test to make them feel good and self important.
Yeah, the "eyeball test" is about as dumb as you can get for a reason to judge a team. (Good or bad)
What was great is that Pollack basically called out the inconsistency in the chairman's comments (in regards to Oregon's placement at #4 as compared to why TCU was behind Alabama)....and then agreed with it. And then Herbstreit went on to say basically at the end of the day, what you've done may not matter, it'll be whether or not some stupid ex-coaches, current AD's and a former secretary of state "think" one team is just better than another. and he's fine with that. numbers, wins, who you've actually beaten, who you've lost to, f that....what does your "gut" tell you.
Post by: kso_FAN on November 05, 2014, 06:50:55 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 05, 2014, 08:25:00 AM
Baylor is ranked below Ole Miss despite only having one loss to a good WVU team on the road...meanwhile Ole Miss is on a two game lose streak...
Arizona State jumped from 15 to 9 with a 19-16 win over rough ridin' Utah? C'mon. :rolleyes:
Alabama's best win is against #21 A&M who we now know is hot garbage.
Post by: kso_FAN on November 05, 2014, 08:38:01 AM
Ok, some things are funny (duh).
Baylor is ranked below Ole Miss despite only having one loss to a good WVU team on the road...meanwhile Ole Miss is on a two game lose streak...
Arizona State jumped from 15 to 9 with a 19-16 win over rough ridin' Utah? C'mon. :rolleyes:
Alabama's best win is against #21 A&M who we now know is hot garbage.
Eye test gonna eye test.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 05, 2014, 08:45:05 AM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 05, 2014, 08:49:13 AM
Post by: AST on November 05, 2014, 08:51:35 AM
who the eff cares?
mark it down folks, i agree with TTHoTUC on something. this is a big day.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 05, 2014, 08:52:31 AM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 05, 2014, 08:56:42 AM
who the eff cares?
mark it down folks, i agree with TTHoTUC on something. this is a big day.
glad we found something. i mean, its week like 10 or whatever. are we really concerned about whos ranked what right now? we have 3 road games against top 25 teams left and we are a game up in the big 12. winning out? how about we worry about winning 3 of our last 4 and getting the dr pepper?
Post by: AST on November 05, 2014, 08:58:47 AM
who the eff cares?
mark it down folks, i agree with TTHoTUC on something. this is a big day.
glad we found something. i mean, its week like 10 or whatever. are we really concerned about whos ranked what right now? we have 3 road games against top 25 teams left and we are a game up in the big 12. winning out? how about we worry about winning 3 of our last 4 and getting the dr pepper?
exactly. if we crap down our leg in the coming weeks, we are who they thought we were. if we win out, the rankings will have no choice but to reflect that.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 05, 2014, 08:59:40 AM
who the eff cares?
mark it down folks, i agree with TTHoTUC on something. this is a big day.
glad we found something. i mean, its week like 10 or whatever. are we really concerned about whos ranked what right now? we have 3 road games against top 25 teams left and we are a game up in the big 12. winning out? how about we worry about winning 3 of our last 4 and getting the dr pepper?
It's really a commentary on the system in general. I didn't even mention KSU in my post.
Post by: kso_FAN on November 05, 2014, 09:01:38 AM
who the eff cares?
mark it down folks, i agree with TTHoTUC on something. this is a big day.
glad we found something. i mean, its week like 10 or whatever. are we really concerned about whos ranked what right now? we have 3 road games against top 25 teams left and we are a game up in the big 12. winning out? how about we worry about winning 3 of our last 4 and getting the dr pepper?
Of course; things will change a lot in the next month. Its still fun (and fine) to BBS about. :dunno:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 05, 2014, 09:03:25 AM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 05, 2014, 09:07:38 AM
who the eff cares?
mark it down folks, i agree with TTHoTUC on something. this is a big day.
glad we found something. i mean, its week like 10 or whatever. are we really concerned about whos ranked what right now? we have 3 road games against top 25 teams left and we are a game up in the big 12. winning out? how about we worry about winning 3 of our last 4 and getting the dr pepper?
Of course; things will change a lot in the next month. Its still fun (and fine) to BBS about. :dunno:
i guess... i just get tired of coming on here to BBS about cats football and seeing half the threads about ESPN loving the SEC and how *insert SEC team* is overrated and shouldnt be #3 in the CFP.
Post by: kso_FAN on November 05, 2014, 09:09:45 AM
who the eff cares?
mark it down folks, i agree with TTHoTUC on something. this is a big day.
glad we found something. i mean, its week like 10 or whatever. are we really concerned about whos ranked what right now? we have 3 road games against top 25 teams left and we are a game up in the big 12. winning out? how about we worry about winning 3 of our last 4 and getting the dr pepper?
Of course; things will change a lot in the next month. Its still fun (and fine) to BBS about. :dunno:
i guess... i just get tired of coming on here to BBS about cats football and seeing half the threads about ESPN loving the SEC and how *insert SEC team* is overrated and shouldnt be #3 in the CFP.
I don't either, so I don't post in those threads or read them that much. Granted, this one has some of that because of the nature of the overall rankings, but whatever. FTR, I have never said anything about SEC bias, and I won't, b/c I mostly think its dumb.
But I also think this ridiculous "eye test" criteria is dumb and I will post about that.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 05, 2014, 09:16:44 AM
Post by: slucat on November 05, 2014, 09:48:52 AM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 05, 2014, 09:51:15 AM
Such a tough life for Tonya to have to thump through all these worthless threads on gE. Sheesh. Cut this guy a break, you guys!
kind of like how hard it is on you that you have to wacth/listen to ESPN suck off the SEC and #CollegeGameday doesnt ever do our games and sucks now?!?! :curse: :curse: :curse:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 05, 2014, 09:59:25 AM
IT'S INFURIATING!!! :curse:Such a tough life for Tonya to have to thump through all these worthless threads on gE. Sheesh. Cut this guy a break, you guys!
kind of like how hard it is on you that you have to wacth/listen to ESPN suck off the SEC and #CollegeGameday doesnt ever do our games and sucks now?!?! :curse: :curse: :curse:
Post by: pissclams on November 05, 2014, 10:06:11 AM
who the eff cares?
mark it down folks, i agree with TTHoTUC on something. this is a big day.
glad we found something. i mean, its week like 10 or whatever. are we really concerned about whos ranked what right now? we have 3 road games against top 25 teams left and we are a game up in the big 12. winning out? how about we worry about winning 3 of our last 4 and getting the dr pepper?
i think it comes down to our fanbase wanting to enjoy discussing our team being in the playoffs, while we still have a chance to be in the playoff
if you have a rough ridin' problem with that, just let me know
Post by: DeoKat on November 05, 2014, 04:43:10 PM
Is anyone out there using the old BCS formula(s) to compare what it would say at this point in the season vs. the committee?
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=159&f=4582&t=13110600&p=1 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=159&f=4582&t=13110600&p=1)
Using the Coaches Poll, AP Poll (instead of Harris Poll), & Sagarin/Massey Combo (for the computer rankings)
Re: 2014 BCS Rating
WEEK 11
1. Mississippi State .9513
2. Auburn .9236
3. Alabama .8948
4. Florida State .8788
5. Oregon .8205
6. TCU .7357
7. Michigan State .7158
8. Kansas State .7002
9. Mississippi .6479
10. Baylor .6260
11. Notre Dame .6180
12. LSU .5494
13. Oklahoma .5101
14. Arizona State .4883
15. Ohio State .4871
16. Nebraska .4492
17. Georgia .3859
18. UCLA .2840
19. Clemson .2512
20. Arizona .1516
21. Utah .1337
22. Duke .1328
23. Wisconsin .1298
24. West Virginia .1233
25. Marshall .1091
Post by: Frankenklein on November 05, 2014, 05:20:02 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on November 06, 2014, 01:40:45 AM
It's November and the Cats have one loss and still have a shot at playing for a Natty.Uncharted territory.Feels good.Enjoy the ride. :Woot:
Uncharted territory? We did it literally two years ago.
Post by: GoodForAnother on November 06, 2014, 02:08:21 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 06, 2014, 08:10:19 AM
It's November and the Cats have one loss and still have a shot at playing for a Natty.Uncharted territory.Feels good.Enjoy the ride. :Woot:
Uncharted territory? We did it literally two years ago.
With one loss?
Post by: The Big Train on November 06, 2014, 08:45:46 AM
Post by: slucat on November 06, 2014, 09:10:15 AM
Is anyone out there using the old BCS formula(s) to compare what it would say at this point in the season vs. the committee?
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=159&f=4582&t=13110600&p=1 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=159&f=4582&t=13110600&p=1)
Using the Coaches Poll, AP Poll (instead of Harris Poll), & Sagarin/Massey Combo (for the computer rankings)
Re: 2014 BCS Rating
WEEK 11
1. Mississippi State .9513
2. Auburn .9236
3. Alabama .8948
4. Florida State .8788
5. Oregon .8205
6. TCU .7357
7. Michigan State .7158
8. Kansas State .7002
9. Mississippi .6479
10. Baylor .6260
11. Notre Dame .6180
12. LSU .5494
13. Oklahoma .5101
14. Arizona State .4883
15. Ohio State .4871
16. Nebraska .4492
17. Georgia .3859
18. UCLA .2840
19. Clemson .2512
20. Arizona .1516
21. Utah .1337
22. Duke .1328
23. Wisconsin .1298
24. West Virginia .1233
25. Marshall .1091
Thx
Post by: ednksu on November 11, 2014, 07:07:07 PM
Post by: TownieCat on November 11, 2014, 08:37:33 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 11, 2014, 09:55:12 PM
As long as they stay in the top 4 it's not really a big deal.
I think Duke is the team getting screwed, I really don't know how they can justify the disparity in rating for two teams in the same conference. I want a 1 loss Duke team to beat an undefeated FSU in the ACC championship game so badly just to hear Jeff Long clumsily explain how they handle Duke when FSU has spent the entire season in the top 4.
Post by: pissclams on November 11, 2014, 10:01:44 PM
Post by: TownieCat on November 11, 2014, 10:07:49 PM
Unbalanced schedules, tho. FSU has beaten Oklahoma St, Clemson, Louisville, & ND. Duke has beaten KU and GA Tech...As long as they stay in the top 4 it's not really a big deal.
I think Duke is the team getting screwed, I really don't know how they can justify the disparity in rating for two teams in the same conference. I want a 1 loss Duke team to beat an undefeated FSU in the ACC championship game so badly just to hear Jeff Long clumsily explain how they handle Duke when FSU has spent the entire season in the top 4.
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on November 11, 2014, 10:09:52 PM
Unbalanced schedules, tho. FSU has beaten Oklahoma St, Clemson, Louisville, & ND. Duke has beaten KU and GA Tech...As long as they stay in the top 4 it's not really a big deal.
I think Duke is the team getting screwed, I really don't know how they can justify the disparity in rating for two teams in the same conference. I want a 1 loss Duke team to beat an undefeated FSU in the ACC championship game so badly just to hear Jeff Long clumsily explain how they handle Duke when FSU has spent the entire season in the top 4.
Well, the H2H is all that matters when Duke beats them in the title game.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 11, 2014, 10:10:28 PM
again, common sense plays a factor. having watched nearly all of their games this season, it's clear that they're appropriately ranked
At the very least they should be grouped with other 1 loss teams. They shouldn't be 5 spots lower than the next higher 1 loss team and there is absolutely no way that Arizona State's eye test or resume should be 15 spots higher than Duke.
Post by: TownieCat on November 11, 2014, 10:12:46 PM
Duke's ceiling is the Orange Bowl.Unbalanced schedules, tho. FSU has beaten Oklahoma St, Clemson, Louisville, & ND. Duke has beaten KU and GA Tech...As long as they stay in the top 4 it's not really a big deal.
I think Duke is the team getting screwed, I really don't know how they can justify the disparity in rating for two teams in the same conference. I want a 1 loss Duke team to beat an undefeated FSU in the ACC championship game so badly just to hear Jeff Long clumsily explain how they handle Duke when FSU has spent the entire season in the top 4.
Well, the H2H is all that matters when Duke beats them in the title game.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 11, 2014, 10:19:43 PM
Duke's ceiling is the Orange Bowl.Unbalanced schedules, tho. FSU has beaten Oklahoma St, Clemson, Louisville, & ND. Duke has beaten KU and GA Tech...As long as they stay in the top 4 it's not really a big deal.
I think Duke is the team getting screwed, I really don't know how they can justify the disparity in rating for two teams in the same conference. I want a 1 loss Duke team to beat an undefeated FSU in the ACC championship game so badly just to hear Jeff Long clumsily explain how they handle Duke when FSU has spent the entire season in the top 4.
Well, the H2H is all that matters when Duke beats them in the title game.
Agreed, which is why they shouldn't be down there with teams that have the Sun Bowl as their ceiling.
Post by: pissclams on November 12, 2014, 08:54:22 AM
duke @ #21 has 1 quality win (@ #22 GTech) and a relatively bad loss @ unranked miami, other than that, they've played no one (ku, troy, elon, + acc coastal)
the next closest 1 loss team in the rankings is nebraska, who beat miami by 10 pts and whose only loss is @ MSU
Post by: mhkpasa on November 18, 2014, 07:14:17 PM
2. Oregon 9-1
3. Florida State 10-0
4. Mississippi St 9-1
5. TCU 9-1
6. Ohio State 9-1
7. Baylor 8-1
8. Ole Miss 8-2
9. UCLA 8-2
10. Georgia 8-2
11. Michigan State 8-2
12. Kansas State 7-2
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 18, 2014, 07:46:46 PM
Post by: Katpappy on November 18, 2014, 07:51:38 PM
Win out. Share of the Big 12 and a college committe bowl. Will take! Plus, eff up Baylor's postseason dreams. :love:If we win out, we won't share since Texas is going to crap stomp the Horny Toads. ;)
Post by: scottwildcat on November 18, 2014, 07:56:40 PM
Win out. Share of the Big 12 and a college committe bowl. Will take! Plus, eff up Baylor's postseason dreams. :love:
not going to happen, Jake's not anywhere near healthy enough to win out.
Post by: catzacker on November 18, 2014, 08:24:44 PM
Post by: That_Guy on November 18, 2014, 10:33:00 PM
Win out. Share of the Big 12 and a college committe bowl. Will take! Plus, eff up Baylor's postseason dreams. :love:
not going to happen, Jake's not anywhere near healthy enough to win out.
Joe Huebner says GTFO :comeatme:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 18, 2014, 10:36:48 PM
Why dream?Win out. Share of the Big 12 and a college committe bowl. Will take! Plus, eff up Baylor's postseason dreams. :love:
not going to happen, Jake's not anywhere near healthy enough to win out.
Post by: RickRampus on November 19, 2014, 08:15:14 AM
Why dream?Win out. Share of the Big 12 and a college committe bowl. Will take! Plus, eff up Baylor's postseason dreams. :love:
not going to happen, Jake's not anywhere near healthy enough to win out.
cause Waters is a nightmare
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 19, 2014, 08:49:37 AM
Post by: RickRampus on November 19, 2014, 09:35:15 AM
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 19, 2014, 09:53:33 AM
Win out. Share of the Big 12 and a college committe bowl. Will take! Plus, eff up Baylor's postseason dreams. :love:
i'm right there with you, fanman. :ksu:
find a way to win tomorrow night, can struggle against KU but still pull out a W. then the dream is to return the favor, rip baylor's rough ridin' heart out and dr. peppers on 12/6.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 19, 2014, 10:03:33 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 29, 2014, 07:29:57 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on November 29, 2014, 09:38:15 PM
top ten this week?? :crossfingers:
GT jumps
Post by: scottwildcat on November 29, 2014, 09:38:40 PM
top ten this week?? :crossfingers:
GT jumps
Ole Miss and Auburn may jump us as well
Post by: scottwildcat on November 29, 2014, 10:09:08 PM
top ten this week?? :crossfingers:
GT jumps
Ole Miss and Auburn may jump us as well
And Wisconsin, but now maybe not Auburn
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 29, 2014, 10:15:12 PM
top ten this week?? :crossfingers:
GT jumps
Ole Miss and Auburn may jump us as well
Two 3 loss teams and a team that lost to the NC bball schools shouldn't jump anyone
Post by: kslim on November 29, 2014, 10:30:55 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 29, 2014, 10:38:51 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on November 29, 2014, 10:41:38 PM
We play on prime time on espn we will be #9
Lockett and Sexton might each have 200 receiving yards.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 29, 2014, 10:51:53 PM
Post by: kslim on November 30, 2014, 08:28:19 AM
that would be somethingWe play on prime time on espn we will be #9
Lockett and Sexton might each have 200 receiving yards.
Post by: kslim on November 30, 2014, 12:09:36 PM
We play on prime time on espn we will be #9damn you smart
Post by: Kat Kid on November 30, 2014, 12:11:42 PM
So, petty is sketti brained and Oakman might be dq'd? Maybe our luck is turning. Perhaps "I'm so proud" will beat ComiCon Frog.
:lol:
Post by: ksufan44 on November 30, 2014, 02:25:11 PM
Who has to lose for us to get into this playoff gimmick?
Crab legs loses to triple option, Wisky beats tOSU, and we win by a lot. Does Wisconsin jump us in that scenario for 4th? Obviously a TCU loss would help a bunch as well.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 02, 2014, 06:16:44 PM
2. Oregon
3. TCU
4. Florida St.
5. Ohio St.
6. Baylor
7. Arizona
8. Michigan St.
9. K-State
20. Oklahoma
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 02, 2014, 06:18:33 PM
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on December 02, 2014, 06:21:47 PM
Go Mizzou, Oregon, Iowa State, Wisconsin and G. Tech and we're in you guys! :ksu:
I think we'd get in with just Mizzou, Oregon, Wisky and Ga Tech... With that said, Oregon, Wisky and Ga Tech aren't all that unreasonable, so Mizzou likely holds our fate as much as anybody besides us.
:kstatriot:
Post by: BKCat on December 02, 2014, 06:24:01 PM
Go Mizzou, Oregon, Iowa State, Wisconsin and G. Tech and we're in you guys! :ksu:
I think we'd get in with just Mizzou, Oregon, Wisky and Ga Tech... With that said, Oregon, Wisky and Ga Tech aren't all that unreasonable, so Mizzou likely holds our fate as much as anybody besides us.
:kstatriot:
Why do we need Missouri to win? Wouldn't we jump MSU?
Post by: Demo158 on December 02, 2014, 06:27:28 PM
MSU has absolutely no business being in the top ten. We will definitely jump them if we beat BaylorGo Mizzou, Oregon, Iowa State, Wisconsin and G. Tech and we're in you guys! :ksu:
I think we'd get in with just Mizzou, Oregon, Wisky and Ga Tech... With that said, Oregon, Wisky and Ga Tech aren't all that unreasonable, so Mizzou likely holds our fate as much as anybody besides us.
:kstatriot:
Why do we need Missouri to win? Wouldn't we jump MSU?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 02, 2014, 06:30:13 PM
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on December 02, 2014, 06:33:10 PM
I think Alabama will stay in the playoff with a loss. They'll probably fall to #4. Honestly, I think it comes down to Iowa state. :frown:
We're in if Arizona, OSU, and FSU lose. We would jump idle MSU if we beat Baylor.
I think all of those teams will lose so I think it will ultimately come down to whether we can beat Baylor...possible if Bryce is really skettied.
Post by: BKCat on December 02, 2014, 06:37:37 PM
How? Who gets bumped out if that happens? 1. Alabama 2. Oregon 3. TCU or 4. Bama? We would end up #5 in this scenario. :frown:
Bama can't be #1 and #4
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 02, 2014, 06:38:07 PM
Post by: BKCat on December 02, 2014, 06:38:52 PM
You guys think we'll jump a 1 loss fl. st team? That's what I meant.
The committee doesn't seem to like them at all even while they're undefeated, so I would say yes.
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on December 02, 2014, 06:40:35 PM
You guys think we'll jump a 1 loss fl. st team? That's what I meant.
You think they wouldn't drop them down at least one if they lose? We would be a conference champ and we would have better wins plus we would close out the season a lot stronger.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 02, 2014, 06:40:55 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 02, 2014, 06:42:44 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on December 02, 2014, 06:44:21 PM
Also, if we find a way to get to #4, we might get to play bama. :love:
you said go Mizzou earlier. if Mizzou wins that won't happen. you better go back and resend your go Mizzou comment.
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on December 02, 2014, 06:45:38 PM
Pretty weird. They have two top 25 wins too. I could see G. Tech beating them.
Beating Baylor and Oklahoma on the road would trump anything they've done and it's not really close. If they didn't drop them they would pretty much be saying that their last game didn't matter at all vand they could have just forfeited and gotten in.
Post by: OK_Cat on December 02, 2014, 06:46:01 PM
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on December 02, 2014, 06:47:54 PM
Post by: sunny_cat on December 02, 2014, 06:48:00 PM
We aren't beating baylor
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 02, 2014, 06:48:14 PM
I changed my assessment. :DAlso, if we find a way to get to #4, we might get to play bama. :love:
you said go Mizzou earlier. if Mizzou wins that won't happen. you better go back and resend your go Mizzou comment.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 02, 2014, 06:48:57 PM
Is this the most important week of college football ever? This is really fun, guys.Yeah, if you can't day dream about what could be, then you're a pretty depressing fan. :frown:
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on December 02, 2014, 06:51:25 PM
Is this the most important week of college football ever? This is really fun, guys.Yeah, if you can't day dream about what could be, then you're a pretty depressing fan. :frown:
Defense mechanism.
Post by: scottwildcat on December 02, 2014, 06:52:12 PM
We aren't beating baylor
Odds are you're correct, BUT WHAT IF :Wha:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 02, 2014, 06:53:59 PM
FYPIs this the most important week of college football ever? This is really fun, guys.Yeah, if you can't day dream about what could be, then you're a pretty depressing fan. :frown:Defense mechanism.Thought process of being a loser your whole life.
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on December 02, 2014, 07:03:37 PM
Post by: Hurricane Cat on December 02, 2014, 07:38:22 PM
FYPIs this the most important week of college football ever? This is really fun, guys.Yeah, if you can't day dream about what could be, then you're a pretty depressing fan. :frown:Defense mechanism.Thought process of being a loser your whole life.
lol
Post by: EMAWmeister on December 02, 2014, 08:32:01 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2014, 12:20:13 PM
Post by: steve dave on December 21, 2014, 01:25:56 PM
http://time.com/3640357/college-football-top-25-academic/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+time%2Ftopstories+%28TIME%3A+Top+Stories%29#3640357/college-football-top-25-academic/
needs own thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 22, 2014, 06:16:35 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on December 22, 2014, 07:17:16 PM
http://www.truschoolsports.com/2014/12/early-look-at-2015-preseason-top-25/ :gocho:
I LOVE our Cats, but no way are we a top 25 team next year, let alone, top 15. Whoever made that list, is a Grade A idiot.
Post by: Frankenklein on December 22, 2014, 07:18:56 PM
Post by: Tobias on December 22, 2014, 07:21:01 PM
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I am a truck driver who loves sports. I enjoy writing in my spare time mainly about the SEC and Ole Miss. All around sports guy!
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Post by: scottwildcat on December 22, 2014, 07:21:39 PM
QuoteI am a truck driver who loves sports. I enjoy writing in my spare time mainly about the SEC and Ole Miss. All around sports guy!
!
oh my...
Post by: SdK on December 22, 2014, 07:22:41 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 22, 2014, 07:25:05 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 12, 2015, 05:00:27 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/for-petes-sake/article6086019.html
http://www.wsj.com/articles/whats-your-college-team-worth-1421081367
#26
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 12, 2015, 06:05:35 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 12, 2015, 09:09:57 PM
KU at 57 seems a little high.
With as much money as it loses, I'm stunned they were able to come up with a value. The real estate must qualify as some pre-cercla disposal zone that would be extremely valuable as a hazardous waste receptacle to the local tire factory, coal plant, fertilizer plant and other gross polluters.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 13, 2015, 02:26:17 AM
http://www.truschoolsports.com/2014/12/early-look-at-2015-preseason-top-25/ :gocho:
I LOVE our Cats, but no way are we a top 25 team next year, let alone, top 15. Whoever made that list, is a Grade A idiot.
I bet he picks KU basketball to win the Big 12 every year because you have to keep picking them until they lose.
Post by: TownieCat on January 13, 2015, 08:30:37 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on January 13, 2015, 09:47:08 AM
#18 in the final AP.
definitely feels more accurate than when we were hanging around 10
Post by: TownieCat on January 13, 2015, 09:50:49 AM
Agreed. All 9 wins were against unranked teams and all 4 losses were against ranked teams.#18 in the final AP.
definitely feels more accurate than when we were hanging around 10
Post by: Unruly on January 13, 2015, 09:56:25 AM
Agreed. All 9 wins were against unranked teams and all 4 losses were against ranked teams.#18 in the final AP.
definitely feels more accurate than when we were hanging around 10
You mean at the end of the season correct?
Post by: TownieCat on January 13, 2015, 09:59:11 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on January 13, 2015, 10:11:06 AM
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 13, 2015, 11:20:12 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 13, 2015, 11:37:13 AM
O/U on where OU ends up in the preseason polls? I'd say #5.You're high. They won't even be in the top ten.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on January 13, 2015, 11:40:54 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 13, 2015, 11:42:49 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on January 13, 2015, 11:58:44 AM
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/ohio-state-buckeyes-oregon-ducks-2015-preseason-top-25-ranking-011215
Putting TCU at #2 is pretty right, they are going to be scary good next year, I'm not as high on Baylor being #3 though.
Post by: MadCat on January 13, 2015, 12:03:11 PM
Post by: Brock Landers on January 13, 2015, 12:21:11 PM
O/U on where OU ends up in the preseason polls? I'd say #5.You're high. They won't even be in the top ten.
I'm pretty sure he was mocking OU's consistenly overrated position in preseason polls.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 13, 2015, 12:27:01 PM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 13, 2015, 12:49:04 PM
Didn't even make the top 30. :frown:
no love for bazooka joe
Post by: Gooch on January 13, 2015, 01:23:50 PM
OU and Bob might go into a Mack Brown slide.Nope Bob had the ball(z) to clean house unlike our Old Ball(z).
Post by: XocolateThundarr on January 13, 2015, 01:30:59 PM
OU and Bob might go into a Mack Brown slide.Nope Bob had the ball(z) to clean house unlike our Old Ball(z).
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on January 13, 2015, 02:51:43 PM
OU and Bob might go into a Mack Brown slide.Nope Bob had the ball(z) to clean house unlike our Old Ball(z).
But when Mack had ball(z) and reset his staff he went into the dumpster.
Post by: Skipper44 on January 13, 2015, 04:09:31 PM
he has kept Mike tho (so far :crossfingers:)OU and Bob might go into a Mack Brown slide.Nope Bob had the ball(z) to clean house unlike our Old Ball(z).
Post by: Katpappy on January 13, 2015, 07:17:28 PM
He's looking at other schools for the same job. That should tell you something.he has kept Mike tho (so far :crossfingers:)OU and Bob might go into a Mack Brown slide.Nope Bob had the ball(z) to clean house unlike our Old Ball(z).
Post by: MakeItRain on August 02, 2016, 10:44:13 PM
Not bad at all. LOL at ISU slumming with Fordam and Holy Cross.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 02, 2016, 10:47:30 PM
http://collegefootball.ap.org/top-100
Not bad at all. LOL at ISU slumming with Fordam and Holy Cross.
yeah, will take
Post by: KITNfury on August 02, 2016, 11:03:35 PM
Post by: ednksu on August 03, 2016, 06:55:00 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 03, 2016, 08:42:03 PM
How they putting Army that low and Nebraska that high. Seems like a double standard.
um...
Post by: TownieCat on August 04, 2016, 11:36:47 AM
:shakesfist:
Post by: pvegs on August 04, 2016, 11:41:35 AM
http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/football/polls/coaches-poll/ (http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/football/polls/coaches-poll/)
:shakesfist:
how many top 10 road w's do our cats have? ou in 2012...and ?? be good to get another on sept 2.
Post by: SdK on August 04, 2016, 02:44:53 PM
http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/football/polls/coaches-poll/ (http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/football/polls/coaches-poll/)Damn look at Houston
:shakesfist:
Post by: SdK on August 04, 2016, 02:45:13 PM
Post by: eastcat on August 04, 2016, 09:42:16 PM
How they putting Army that low and Nebraska that high. Seems like a double standard.
um...
How is Nebraska ahead of Miami?
Post by: star seed 7 on August 04, 2016, 09:44:20 PM
How they putting Army that low and Nebraska that high. Seems like a double standard.
um...
How is Nebraska ahead of Miami?
do people not know nebraska was really good for a really long time?
Post by: wetwillie on August 04, 2016, 09:53:19 PM
How they putting Army that low and Nebraska that high. Seems like a double standard.
um...
How is Nebraska ahead of Miami?
do people not know nebraska was really good for a really long time?
Old people do
Post by: The Big Train on August 04, 2016, 10:05:03 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 05, 2016, 08:14:25 AM
How they putting Army that low and Nebraska that high. Seems like a double standard.
um...
How is Nebraska ahead of Miami?
do people not know nebraska was really good for a really long time?
Old people do
Yeah, but younger than people who can remember Army ever being good and the same age as people who can remember Miami being good.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 19, 2016, 11:31:10 AM
Receiving 4 votes in the coaches. :Woot:
Post by: The Big Train on September 20, 2016, 09:46:08 PM
http://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings
Receiving 4 votes in the coaches. :Woot:
:Wha:
Post by: bones129 on September 20, 2016, 10:28:13 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 05, 2017, 03:53:26 PM
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Looking for a dark horse title pick in the Big 12 next year? Take a look at LHC Bill Snyder’s Wildcats. Kansas State quietly finished 2016 at 9-4 and returns most of its core from both sides of the ball. On offense, quarterback Jesse Ertz is back after rushing for 1,012 yards and 12 scores last season, and running back Alex Barnes could be one of the Big 12’s top breakout players. Byron Pringle and Dominique Heath return at receiver, and the Wildcats should have one of the conference’s best offensive lines with four starters returning. End Jordan Willis is a big loss on defense, but cornerback D.J. Reed (the Big 12 Defensive Newcomer of the Year in 2016) and linebacker Elijah Lee headline the key returnees. Big 12 frontrunner Oklahoma is slated to visit Manhattan in mid-October next year.
Post by: DQ12 on January 05, 2017, 04:30:10 PM
We're currently ranked 38th. I arbitrarily picked 17 as the cutoff point to those teams that could drop from the T25 as a result of losing their bowl games. Five teams ranked 17th or lower lost: 17. Auburn (L OU); 21 Iowa (L Florida); 22 PITT (L Chicago's big 10 Team) 23 Temple (L Wake) 24 Nubb (L VOLS). Assuming ALL of those teams drop from the top 25 that leaves 5 teams who could sneak in and take their spots.
Of the teams who were RV but not ranked in the AP poll (of which their were 13) 8 won their bowl games. Here are my predictos for RV teams that will be ranked by Season's end.
Utah (ranked 27th, W over Indiana); Tennessee (ranked 33rd, W over UNL); SDSU (ranked 34th W over Houston); and Miami (Ranked 36th, W over WVU). Auburn will probably still be ranked. Although with 5 losses, maybe not. If Auburn is out then I bet GT takes their spot.
Air Force was receiving more votes than Tennessee, but I don't think Air Force's W over South Alabama carries as much weight as the others.
I bet the Cats receive about the 27th most votes. I expect the RV group to look something like Georgia Tech, KSU, AFA, Nubb and so on.
Post by: kim carnes on January 05, 2017, 04:35:05 PM
Post by: DQ12 on January 05, 2017, 04:36:38 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on January 05, 2017, 05:41:05 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on January 05, 2017, 05:50:57 PM
I agree dlew, I was thinking it would be a long shot to be ranked at the end of this year. Which is fine, w/e. But I fully expect to start next season in the 21-25 range. I think Athlon's pick of #18 would be a stretch.
Eh, the more I look at the teams they have us above, and the ones that are IMO perpetually overrated (Tennessee, Georgia) LSU will be good of course but from the write up they look like they lose a ton of dudes. I'm mildly shocked Louisville is as low as they are with Lamar Jackson returning. Oh well, typical "let's put like 50% of the SEC in the 8-20 spots" mentality. Not changing our preseason ranking, just with as much as we return, we should gain a lot of ground. tOSU will be stupid good next year.
Post by: DQ12 on January 06, 2017, 06:56:26 AM
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on January 06, 2017, 04:55:19 PM
Athlons way early top 25 for next year https://athlonsports.com/college-football/very-early-college-football-top-25-201718. Kansas StateQuote
Looking for a dark horse title pick in the Big 12 next year? Take a look at LHC Bill Snyder’s Wildcats. Kansas State quietly finished 2016 at 9-4 and returns most of its core from both sides of the ball. On offense, quarterback Jesse Ertz is back after rushing for 1,012 yards and 12 scores last season, and running back Alex Barnes could be one of the Big 12’s top breakout players. Byron Pringle and Dominique Heath return at receiver, and the Wildcats should have one of the conference’s best offensive lines with four starters returning. End Jordan Willis is a big loss on defense, but cornerback D.J. Reed (the Big 12 Defensive Newcomer of the Year in 2016)and linebacker Elijah Leeheadline the key returnees. Big 12 frontrunner Oklahoma is slated to visit Manhattan in mid-October next year.
:angry:
Post by: manpow5 on January 07, 2017, 07:12:52 PM
Athlons way early top 25 for next year https://athlonsports.com/college-football/very-early-college-football-top-25-201718. Kansas StateQuote
Looking for a dark horse title pick in the Big 12 next year? Take a look at LHC LHC Bill Snyder’s Wildcats. Kansas State quietly finished 2016 at 9-4 and returns most of its core from both sides of the ball. On offense, quarterback Jesse Ertz is back after rushing for 1,012 yards and 12 scores last season, and running back Alex Barnes could be one of the Big 12’s top breakout players. Byron Pringle and Dominique Heath return at receiver, and the Wildcats should have one of the conference’s best offensive lines with four starters returning. End Jordan Willis is a big loss on defense, but cornerback D.J. Reed (the Big 12 Defensive Newcomer of the Year in 2016)and linebacker Elijah Leeheadline the key returnees. Big 12 frontrunner Oklahoma is slated to visit Manhattan in mid-October next year.
:angry:
There goes our top 25 ranking.... cannot we not Michael Beasley this situation and just move his mom to Manhattan and get her gainfully employed for just one more year?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 10, 2017, 11:29:18 AM
:ksu:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18395211/alabama-crimson-tide-florida-state-seminoles-headline-way-too-early-top-25-2017 (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18395211/alabama-crimson-tide-florida-state-seminoles-headline-way-too-early-top-25-2017)
Post by: DQ12 on January 10, 2017, 11:29:54 AM
3 voters had us at 18 (including the Capital Journal's Matt Galloway)
1 had us at 20
3 had us at 21 (including Brett McMurphy and Sam McKewon of the Omaha World Herald -- Sam's always been pretty EMAW when it comes to voting)
2 had us at 22 (including Joe Walljasper of the Colombia [MO] Tribune)
4 had us at 23 (including Jimmy Burch of the Ft. Worth Star Telegram and Mitch Vingle of the Charleston [WV] Gazette)
7 had us at 24 (including Kirk Bohls of the Austin American Statesman; Chuck Carlton of the Dallas Morning News; and John Shinn of the Norman [OK] Transcript)
4 had us at 25
Post by: kim carnes on January 10, 2017, 11:32:00 AM
We finished unranked
Got it, thanks.
Post by: 8manpick on January 10, 2017, 11:35:40 AM
Finished the season 26th.
3 voters had us at 18 (including the Capital Journal's Matt Galloway)
I went to school with him from kindergarten through high school
Post by: ednksu on January 10, 2017, 11:40:01 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 10, 2017, 11:45:26 AM
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Post by: CHONGS on January 10, 2017, 11:46:03 AM
Miami, Utah, SDUS, Tenn all go from not ranked to the top 25. rough ridin' Auburn, .......rough ridin' auburn...., is still ranked.Why not?
Post by: ednksu on January 10, 2017, 11:51:24 AM
Post by: DQ12 on January 10, 2017, 11:51:58 AM
Post by: mocat on January 10, 2017, 11:55:42 AM
Post by: Tobias on January 10, 2017, 11:56:10 AM
Post by: kim carnes on January 10, 2017, 11:56:54 AM
Post by: DQ12 on January 10, 2017, 12:01:00 PM
Post by: ednksu on January 10, 2017, 12:14:38 PM
SNOWBRAG has Auburn at #24; KSU at #40I'm lost on the nick name, help please?
Post by: DQ12 on January 10, 2017, 12:16:05 PM
Post by: CHONGS on January 10, 2017, 12:17:07 PM
SNOWBRAG has Auburn at #24; KSU at #40ChiPOTLE had Auburn at #23 and KSU at #48. Not too different.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.stack.imgur.com%2F70Ur6.png&hash=a854fbad13afb9c1514bdf7e9e97b7413fd86152)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 10, 2017, 12:47:43 PM
Post by: pissclams on January 10, 2017, 01:00:14 PM
Auburn ranked in the top 25 at 8-5 and with 1 win vs a ranked team all year? :horrorsurprise:meanwhile we basically only lost one game
Post by: kim carnes on January 10, 2017, 01:01:17 PM
Auburn ranked in the top 25 at 8-5 and with 1 win vs a ranked team all year? :horrorsurprise:meanwhile we basically only lost one game
And basically beat 3 ranked teams
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 10, 2017, 01:06:19 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on January 10, 2017, 01:12:39 PM
I get it, Auburn played a tough schedule and played some really good team close as well as the win over LSU (the best 4 loss team). But there is something about losing your last 3, 1 to a bad team and two not close to really good teams, that makes me think maybe they shouldn't be ranked. Not necessarily the Cats over them, but still not ranked.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 10, 2017, 01:13:54 PM
Post by: pvegs on January 10, 2017, 07:17:26 PM
John Wilner of the San Jose Mercury voted Auburn at 12th.
dlew, that gets my dander up. i tell you, it really does.
Post by: wetwillie on January 10, 2017, 07:38:21 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 10, 2017, 07:47:17 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 10, 2017, 07:59:45 PM
Post by: Blackcats on January 10, 2017, 08:35:30 PM
Auburn being ranked is weird.
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We had to play KU...that gives us two teams ranked 100+. KU is killing our strength of schedule as a conference.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 16, 2017, 01:10:48 PM
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/news/college-football-rankings-espn-preseason-2017-ncaa-top-25-teams-alabama-cbs-fox-athlon/z1j4kljthlt61jkudaucxazqc
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Post by: TheProdigiousTalent on September 23, 2019, 12:43:38 AM
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Post by: deputy dawg on September 23, 2019, 08:07:44 AM
24 AP
https://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings
Post by: I_have_purplewood on October 27, 2019, 11:55:21 AM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 27, 2019, 01:04:32 PM
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Post by: EMAWzifried on November 03, 2019, 02:09:30 PM
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2861076-ap-college-football-poll-2019-complete-week-11-rankings-released
Post by: cfbandyman on September 25, 2022, 01:34:41 PM
Back in it
Post by: catastrophe on September 25, 2022, 01:42:09 PM
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Post by: Spracne on September 25, 2022, 04:23:54 PM
tulane getting votes after losing to southern miss. we are a quality win now.
Tulane getting votes is 100% to justify OU not dropping out of the top 20.
Post by: wetwillie on September 25, 2022, 04:41:02 PM
Post by: nicname on September 27, 2022, 08:30:14 AM
https://masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm
Old, Nu and Nu Nu B12
11 Baylor
15 OU
16 Cincy
17 OSU
20 Iowa St
23 KSU
25 BYU
27 ATM
28 Texas
35 TCU
36 TTU
37 KU
43 UCF
61 Houston
70 Mizzou
100 Nebraska :lol: :lol: :lol:
121 Colorado
Post by: MadCat on September 27, 2022, 05:06:21 PM
Code: [Select]
MadCat's Rankings:
1 Alabama
2 Kansas
2 Ohio State
2 Tennessee
5 Penn State
5 Syracuse
7 Mississippi State
8 Florida State
8 Georgia
8 Oregon
11 Southern California
12 Michigan
12 Wake Forest
14 Kansas State
14 Kentucky
14 Notre Dame
17 Arkansas
17 BYU
17 Indiana
17 Iowa
17 James Madison
17 LSU
17 Minnesota
17 NC State
25 Texas Tech
25 UCLA
27 Maryland
28 Appalachian State
28 Cincinnati
28 Clemson
28 Texas A&M
32 Iowa State
32 Washington
34 California
34 Illinois
34 Oklahoma
34 Ole Miss
34 Wyoming
39 Liberty
39 Memphis
41 Tulane
42 Baylor
42 Duke
42 Florida
42 Pittsburgh
46 Air Force
46 Auburn
46 Louisville
46 North Carolina
50 Coastal Carolina
50 Houston
50 Nevada
50 Texas
50 UNLV
50 UTEP
56 Marshall
57 East Carolina
57 Middle Tennessee
57 Old Dominion
57 Rutgers
57 TCU
57 UAB
57 UCF
57 Utah
57 Virginia
57 Washington State
67 Michigan State
67 New Mexico
67 North Texas
67 Oregon State
67 South Carolina
72 Miami (OH)
73 Bowling Green
73 Buffalo
73 Georgia Southern
73 Louisiana
73 Oklahoma State
73 Troy
73 West Virginia
80 Arizona
80 Boise State
80 Florida Atlantic
80 Miami (FL)
80 Navy
80 Ohio
80 Purdue
80 Rice
80 San Diego State
80 San Jose State
80 SMU
80 South Alabama
80 UL Monroe
80 Vanderbilt
80 Western Kentucky
80 Wisconsin
96 Eastern Michigan
96 Northwestern
98 Charlotte
98 Missouri
98 New Mexico State
98 Southern Miss
98 Temple
98 Texas State
98 Toledo
98 Tulsa
98 Utah State
98 UTSA
98 Virginia Tech
98 Western Michigan
110 Akron
110 Arizona State
110 Arkansas State
110 Army
110 Ball State
110 Boston College
110 Central Michigan
110 Colorado
110 Colorado State
110 FIU
110 Fresno State
110 Georgia State
110 Georgia Tech
110 Hawaii
110 Kent State
110 Louisiana Tech
110 Massachusetts
110 Nebraska
110 Northern Illinois
110 South Florida
110 Stanford
110 UConn
Post by: Spracne on September 27, 2022, 06:35:31 PM
I ranked all the teams based on FBS and Power 5 wins. Losses and FCS wins are ignored. There are a lot of ties but hopefully that takes care of itself as the season continues...Code: [Select]MadCat's Rankings:
1 Alabama
2 Kansas
2 Ohio State
2 Tennessee
5 Penn State
5 Syracuse
7 Mississippi State
8 Florida State
8 Georgia
8 Oregon
11 Southern California
12 Michigan
12 Wake Forest
14 Kansas State
14 Kentucky
14 Notre Dame
17 Arkansas
17 BYU
17 Indiana
17 Iowa
17 James Madison
17 LSU
17 Minnesota
17 NC State
25 Texas Tech
25 UCLA
27 Maryland
28 Appalachian State
28 Cincinnati
28 Clemson
28 Texas A&M
32 Iowa State
32 Washington
34 California
34 Illinois
34 Oklahoma
34 Ole Miss
34 Wyoming
39 Liberty
39 Memphis
41 Tulane
42 Baylor
42 Duke
42 Florida
42 Pittsburgh
46 Air Force
46 Auburn
46 Louisville
46 North Carolina
50 Coastal Carolina
50 Houston
50 Nevada
50 Texas
50 UNLV
50 UTEP
56 Marshall
57 East Carolina
57 Middle Tennessee
57 Old Dominion
57 Rutgers
57 TCU
57 UAB
57 UCF
57 Utah
57 Virginia
57 Washington State
67 Michigan State
67 New Mexico
67 North Texas
67 Oregon State
67 South Carolina
72 Miami (OH)
73 Bowling Green
73 Buffalo
73 Georgia Southern
73 Louisiana
73 Oklahoma State
73 Troy
73 West Virginia
80 Arizona
80 Boise State
80 Florida Atlantic
80 Miami (FL)
80 Navy
80 Ohio
80 Purdue
80 Rice
80 San Diego State
80 San Jose State
80 SMU
80 South Alabama
80 UL Monroe
80 Vanderbilt
80 Western Kentucky
80 Wisconsin
96 Eastern Michigan
96 Northwestern
98 Charlotte
98 Missouri
98 New Mexico State
98 Southern Miss
98 Temple
98 Texas State
98 Toledo
98 Tulsa
98 Utah State
98 UTSA
98 Virginia Tech
98 Western Michigan
110 Akron
110 Arizona State
110 Arkansas State
110 Army
110 Ball State
110 Boston College
110 Central Michigan
110 Colorado
110 Colorado State
110 FIU
110 Fresno State
110 Georgia State
110 Georgia Tech
110 Hawaii
110 Kent State
110 Louisiana Tech
110 Massachusetts
110 Nebraska
110 Northern Illinois
110 South Florida
110 Stanford
110 UConn
These rankings seem about right, to me. Could quibble over 1 vs. 2, but otherwise I'm good.
Post by: MadCat on September 28, 2022, 09:46:30 AM
I'm trying to decide if it's more like multi-level marketing, a pyramid scheme, or Highlander
Post by: nicname on October 03, 2022, 01:16:28 PM
https://masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm
Nu, Nu-Nu and old Big XII as follows
9 TCU
12 OSU
15 KSU
20 Texas
22 Cincy
23 KU
28 OU
31 Baylor
35 BYU
37 Iowa St
39 ATM
40 TTU
43 UCF
63 Mizzou
64 Houston
65 WVU
88 Nebraska
124 Colorado
Others
44 Tulane
Post by: stunted on October 03, 2022, 01:25:21 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 03, 2022, 01:29:53 PM
Post by: MadCat on October 04, 2022, 02:37:39 PM
Code: [Select]
Wk 5 Team
1 Alabama
1 Mississippi State
3 Ohio State
4 Kansas
5 Wake Forest
6 Michigan
6 UCLA
8 Clemson
9 Penn State
10 Georgia
11 Ole Miss
12 LSU
12 Oregon
14 Syracuse
15 Maryland
16 Florida State
17 Kansas State
18 Tennessee
19 Southern California
20 BYU
21 Coastal Carolina
22 Memphis
23 Tulane
24 James Madison
24 NC State
24 Oklahoma
27 Liberty
28 Notre Dame
29 Cincinnati
29 Indiana
29 TCU
32 Arkansas
32 California
32 Illinois
32 North Carolina
32 Texas
32 Texas Tech
38 UNLV
38 UTEP
40 Appalachian State
40 Duke
40 Kentucky
40 Purdue
40 Washington State
45 Iowa
45 Minnesota
45 Utah
45 Washington
49 Air Force
49 Wyoming
51 Houston
51 North Texas
53 Florida
53 Oklahoma State
53 Texas A&M
56 Baylor
56 Buffalo
56 Iowa State
59 Auburn
59 Troy
61 San Jose State
62 Georgia Southern
62 Pittsburgh
62 Rutgers
62 UCF
66 East Carolina
66 Louisville
66 Old Dominion
66 Southern Miss
66 UTSA
71 Boise State
71 Nevada
71 New Mexico
71 Oregon State
71 Rice
71 South Alabama
71 South Carolina
78 Marshall
79 Georgia Tech
79 Nebraska
81 Arizona
81 Boston College
81 Bowling Green
81 Louisiana
81 Middle Tennessee
81 UAB
81 Virginia
88 Michigan State
88 Navy
88 San Diego State
88 SMU
88 Western Kentucky
93 Miami (OH)
93 Northwestern
95 Eastern Michigan
95 Virginia Tech
95 West Virginia
98 Arkansas State
98 Charlotte
98 FIU
98 Florida Atlantic
98 Kent State
98 Miami (FL)
98 Ohio
98 Texas State
98 Toledo
98 UL Monroe
98 Utah State
98 Vanderbilt
98 Western Michigan
98 Wisconsin
112 Ball State
112 Georgia State
112 Missouri
112 New Mexico State
112 Temple
112 Tulsa
112 UConn
119 Akron
119 Arizona State
119 Army
119 Central Michigan
119 Colorado
119 Colorado State
119 Fresno State
119 Hawaii
119 Louisiana Tech
119 Massachusetts
119 Northern Illinois
119 South Florida
119 Stanford
Post by: Spracne on October 04, 2022, 02:41:48 PM
No, says this dispassionate observer of college football.
Post by: MadCat on October 04, 2022, 04:02:34 PM
Will KSU pass KU at any point the rest of this season?:popcorn:
No, says this dispassionate observer of college football.
Post by: nicname on October 08, 2022, 09:49:30 PM
No. 14 NC State trailing FSU
KU (19), Utah (11) already lost. Should jump at least three spots. UCLA might pass us w their Utah win tho. Nice!
Post by: Pete on October 08, 2022, 09:55:53 PM
Post by: Houstoncat93 on October 08, 2022, 09:59:17 PM
No. 13 Kentucky down to SoCar
No. 14 NC State trailing FSU
KU (19), Utah (11) already lost. Should jump at least three spots. UCLA might pass us w their Utah win tho. Nice!
UCLA is already ranked ahead of is.
Post by: cfbandyman on October 08, 2022, 10:00:52 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on October 08, 2022, 11:05:23 PM
Post by: ben ji on October 09, 2022, 12:50:27 AM
Post by: Houstoncat93 on October 09, 2022, 07:43:23 AM
We'll be like 17th, regardless it'll be a ranked battle vs TCU (like 10 vs 17, or 15 vs 17 depending on the OSU game)
I suspect we will be Top 15 going into TCU since there will likely be upsets next week during our bye week.
Post by: cfbandyman on October 09, 2022, 12:22:15 PM
16 is higher than I expected, still got about a half hour til AP drops
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 09, 2022, 12:27:00 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on October 09, 2022, 12:52:13 PM
Post by: mocat on October 10, 2022, 12:17:57 PM
https://twitter.com/statsowar/status/1579240019683786752?t=4UOM9GJMqayt4soUVBY4_Q&s=19
Post by: mocat on October 10, 2022, 12:42:02 PM
1 ohio state
2 alabama
3 tennessee
4 michigan
5 georgia
6 mississippi
7 usc
8 texas
9 tcu
10 penn state
11 kansas
12 ucla
13 james madison
14 clemson
15 syracuse
16 oklahoma st
17 wake forest
18 notre dame
19 mississippi st
20 illinois
21 tulane
22 oregon
23 maryland
24 kansas st
25 purdue
big 12 past / present / future
8 texas
9 tcu
11 kansas
16 oklahoma st
24 kansas st
26 cincinnati
34 byu
36 ucf
38 baylor
44 oklahoma
55 texas a&m
60 houston
61 iowa st
67 texas tech
80 west virginia
81 missouri
95 nebraska
125 colorado
big 12 p,p,f week 7 games:
#38 baylor 36
#80 west virginia 28
#97 temple 13
#36 ucf 30
#11 kansas 37
#44 oklahoma 28
#61 iowa st 19
#8 texas 29
#70 california 37
#125 colorado 18
#16 oklahoma st 35
#9 tcu 38
#59 arkansas 28
#34 byu 33
#95 nebraska 21
#25 purdue 40
bonus games this week:
#2 alabama 32
#3 tennessee 29
#10 penn st 22
#4 michigan 30
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 10, 2022, 12:51:55 PM
Post by: mocat on October 10, 2022, 12:56:36 PM
looking ahead to week 13 (i will keep track of this as the weeks go on):
kansas 30
kansas st 27
Post by: cfbandyman on October 10, 2022, 01:40:46 PM
We are dangerously approaching the Iowa / Iowa state zone of soul crushing football to watch with your eyeballs
https://twitter.com/statsowar/status/1579240019683786752?t=4UOM9GJMqayt4soUVBY4_Q&s=19
Okie State is super surprising on that list
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 10, 2022, 02:06:19 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fet3muvWYAEo4Qd?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Post by: mocat on October 10, 2022, 02:21:30 PM
It is opponent adjusted, and okst has not played anybody yetWe are dangerously approaching the Iowa / Iowa state zone of soul crushing football to watch with your eyeballs
https://twitter.com/statsowar/status/1579240019683786752?t=4UOM9GJMqayt4soUVBY4_Q&s=19
Okie State is super surprising on that list
Post by: schreds21 on October 10, 2022, 04:15:09 PM
We are dangerously approaching the Iowa / Iowa state zone of soul crushing football to watch with your eyeballsAm I missing something or did the Squawks not even make it onto the Adjusted chart? :ROFL:
https://twitter.com/statsowar/status/1579240019683786752?t=4UOM9GJMqayt4soUVBY4_Q&s=19
Post by: mocat on October 10, 2022, 04:22:08 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on October 10, 2022, 05:01:01 PM
More data slice and dice
Post by: mocat on October 10, 2022, 05:18:25 PM
Post by: wetwillie on October 10, 2022, 05:35:46 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 10, 2022, 07:44:49 PM
2 loss UT is a CFB Contender you say…
My same thought. Does he know they are 4-2?
Post by: schreds21 on October 10, 2022, 09:00:17 PM
They are hidden behind StanfordAhhh I see them now peeking out behind the tree
Post by: Skipper44 on October 11, 2022, 08:28:29 AM
Post by: MadCat on October 13, 2022, 11:46:54 AM
Code: [Select]
MadCat's Rankings - Week 6
Rank Team
1 Alabama
2 Ohio State
3 Clemson
4 Mississippi State
5 Michigan
6 Georgia
6 Tennessee
8 UCLA
9 Ole Miss
10 Southern California
11 Wake Forest
12 Kansas
12 Oregon
12 Penn State
15 NC State
15 Notre Dame
15 Syracuse
18 Tulane
19 Coastal Carolina
20 Kansas State
20 TCU
22 Illinois
23 Texas
24 Houston
25 LSU
26 Purdue
27 BYU
27 James Madison
29 Maryland
30 Florida State
31 North Carolina
32 Buffalo
33 Liberty
34 Memphis
34 San Jose State
36 Oklahoma State
37 Utah
38 Arkansas
38 Cincinnati
38 Oklahoma
38 Texas Tech
42 South Carolina
43 Georgia Tech
44 Indiana
44 Kentucky
44 Washington State
47 Wyoming
48 UNLV
48 UTEP
50 Florida
51 Appalachian State
51 UCF
53 California
53 Louisville
55 Air Force
55 Troy
55 Utah State
55 UTSA
59 Nebraska
60 Duke
60 Georgia Southern
60 Pittsburgh
63 Baylor
63 Iowa
63 Iowa State
63 Minnesota
63 UAB
63 Washington
69 Auburn
69 Oregon State
71 Boise State
71 North Texas
73 Texas A&M
74 Eastern Michigan
75 Southern Miss
75 Texas State
77 Navy
77 Nevada
77 Rice
77 San Diego State
77 South Alabama
82 Arizona State
82 Marshall
84 Boston College
84 Miami (OH)
84 Rutgers
84 Wisconsin
88 Arizona
88 East Carolina
88 Georgia State
88 Louisiana
88 Middle Tennessee
88 Old Dominion
94 Louisiana Tech
94 New Mexico
96 Northwestern
97 Bowling Green
97 Virginia
99 Charlotte
99 Colorado State
99 Kent State
99 Michigan State
99 Ohio
99 SMU
99 Toledo
99 UConn
99 Western Kentucky
99 Western Michigan
109 Virginia Tech
109 West Virginia
111 Arkansas State
111 Ball State
111 FIU
111 Florida Atlantic
111 Miami (FL)
111 Missouri
111 UL Monroe
111 Vanderbilt
119 New Mexico State
119 Temple
119 Tulsa
122 Akron
122 Army
122 Central Michigan
122 Colorado
122 Fresno State
122 Hawaii
122 Massachusetts
122 Northern Illinois
122 South Florida
122 Stanford
Post by: nicname on October 16, 2022, 01:12:52 PM
https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: konofo on October 16, 2022, 01:36:48 PM
kono
Post by: Pete on October 16, 2022, 01:40:53 PM
Tulane #25, LSU #27/26 is outstanding work by the voters in both polls. Should be some fun conversation in offices across Louisiana tomorrow.Would love to be a fly on the wall there listening to them talk but not understanding a word they are saying due to their shameful backward southern dialect.
kono
Post by: KSNimrod on October 17, 2022, 07:44:23 AM
Tulane #25, LSU #27/26 is outstanding work by the voters in both polls. Should be some fun conversation in offices across Louisiana tomorrow.
kono
Yep. Somebody in the break room is about to get punched right in the tooth!
Post by: mocat on October 17, 2022, 09:57:07 AM
1 ohio st
2 tennessee
3 michigan
4 alabama
5 georgia
6 tcu
7 mississippi
8 syracuse
9 texas
10 ucla
11 clemson
12 usc
13 illinois
14 penn st
15 ucf
16 wake forest
17 maryland
18 kansas
19 kansas st
20 oklahoma st
21 oregon
22 utah
23 troy
24 cincinnati
25 kentucky
big 12 past / present / future
6 tcu
9 texas
15 ucf
18 kansas
19 kansas st
20 oklahoma st
24 cincinnati
32 oklahoma
46 byu
50 texas a&m
51 baylor
56 iowa st
57 houston
74 texas tech
75 west virginia
83 missouri
94 nebraska
118 colorado
week 8 b12 p/p/f games:
#18 kansas 36
#51 baylor 32
#24 cincinnati 33
#47 smu 31
#57 houston 32
#112 navy 26
#75 west virginia 34
#74 texas tech 35
#9 texas 35
#20 oklahoma st 31
#46 byu 28
#37 liberty 31
#90 vanderbilt 27
#83 missouri 32
#50 texas a&m 24
#44 south carolina 27
#15 ucf 35
#73 east carolina 23
#118 colorado 18
#36 oregon st 39
#19 kansas st 26
#6 tcu 34
Post by: mocat on October 18, 2022, 12:11:06 PM
https://twitter.com/SaturdayGameday/status/1582119957621460992?t=KoQXUMpSNpe6c0Dk3EvZYw&s=19
Post by: michigancat on October 18, 2022, 12:57:16 PM
HANG A BANNER!
https://twitter.com/SaturdayGameday/status/1582119957621460992?t=KoQXUMpSNpe6c0Dk3EvZYw&s=19
:driving:
Post by: Pete on October 18, 2022, 05:05:41 PM
Post by: BostonPancake on October 18, 2022, 05:35:29 PM
WE WANT TENNESSEE
Yes, give us the championship game we could have played in 1998.
Post by: kstate4life on October 18, 2022, 05:39:14 PM
WE WANT TENNESSEE
Yes, give us the championship game we could have played in 1998.
I see UCLA on that list too! :surprised:
Post by: pissclams on October 23, 2022, 01:13:23 PM
why
Post by: star seed 7 on October 23, 2022, 01:56:30 PM
so we drop five spots after a 10 point road loss at the number seven team
why
#20 Texas drops out after losing by 6 @ #11. This kind of stuff has always seemed very stupid to me.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 23, 2022, 02:15:10 PM
so we drop five spots after a 10 point road loss at the number seven team
why
I think it was more of a function of elevating three one loss teams that were previously behind us. Tulane should really be pissed, they're still behind us.
For UT, there are no 3 loss teams ranked, at all. I'm not sure a 4-3 team can claim to be in the top 25. I'm shocked they're essentially 26th in the poll, that's the Texas brand alone getting them all those votes.
Post by: nicname on October 23, 2022, 02:22:47 PM
7 TCU
10 OSU
17 Texas
20 KSU
25 Cincy
29 Tech
33 OU
36 Baylor
37 UCF
39 KU
45 ISU
46 Houston
49 ATM
61 BYU
70 Mizzou
72 WVU
88 Nebraska
121 Colorado
Others:
24 Tulane
Post by: mocat on October 30, 2022, 01:30:58 PM
1 ohio st
2 alabama
3 michigan
4 georgia
5 tennessee
6 tcu
7 illinois
8 clemson
9 penn st
10 kansas st
11 usc
12 ucla
13 texas
14 oregon
15 troy
16 mississippi
17 syracuse
18 utah
19 tulane
20 lsu
21 ucf
22 maryland
23 notre dame
24 cincinnati
25 north carolina
big 12 past, present, future
6 tcu
10 kansas st
13 texas
21 ucf
24 cincinnati
26 oklahoma
27 kansas
30 oklahoma st
40 baylor
58 houston
63 texas a&m
64 iowa st
66 missouri
67 byu
70 texas tech
92 west virginia
100 nebraska
125 colorado
b12 p,p,f games
#39 kentucky 23
#66 missouri 21
#41 minnesota 34
#100 nebraska 20
#45 florida 26
#63 texas a&m 26
#70 texas tech 28
#6 tcu 41
#40 baylor 31
#26 oklahoma 30
#14 oregon 49
#125 colorado 20
#92 west virginia 23
#64 iowa st 30
#30 oklahoma st 35
#27 kansas 36
#21 ucf 35
#71 memphis 25
#109 navy 20
#24 cincinnati 35
#67 byu 23
#37 boise state 30
#58 houston 31
#53 smu 34
#13 texas 26
#10 kansas st 28
Post by: nicname on October 30, 2022, 01:33:08 PM
Nu, Nu-Nu and old B12
7 TCU
9 KSU
17 OSU
18 Texas
25 OU
30 Baylor
32 UCF
34 Cincy
38 KU
43 Tech
50 Houston
53 ATM
54 Iowa State
56 Mizzou
61 BYU
72 WVU
90 Nebraska
118 Colorado
Others: 22 Tulane
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on October 30, 2022, 04:13:28 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 30, 2022, 05:11:32 PM
#13 AP
#14 Coaches
Post by: Pete on October 30, 2022, 06:46:28 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 30, 2022, 06:54:12 PM
If we win the remainder of our games we will be the Sugar Bowl champions.That would be pretty sweet!
Post by: ben ji on October 30, 2022, 07:27:51 PM
If we win the remainder of our games we will be the Sugar Bowl champions.
NYE in NawLeans?!? Oh My, Katy bar the door!
Post by: cfbandyman on October 30, 2022, 07:48:23 PM
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/34884786/ap-top-25-college-football-poll-reaction-next-ranked-team
If we win the remainder of our games we will be the Sugar Bowl champions.That would be pretty sweet!
The biggest, besides Sugar Bowl and Big 12 champs, is finally winning 12 games for me
Post by: MakeItRain on October 30, 2022, 11:10:51 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on October 30, 2022, 11:21:39 PM
The real rankings are on Tuesday. I bet we'll be the highest ranked two loss team. We have better wins and better losses than Utah.
Not disagreeing, but I also don't seeing us change that much, if at all, #12, #13, w/e it is we're in as good a spot as we can ask for and it'll be honestly tough to move up with the current glut of undefeated and 1 loss teams, for now
Post by: mocat on October 31, 2022, 03:19:03 PM
13 texas:
2 alabama L 19-20
26 oklahoma W 49-0
30 oklahoma st L 34-41
42 utsa W 41-20
64 iowa st W 24-21
70 texas tech L 34-37
92 west virginia W 38-20
111 ulm W 52-10
10 kansas st:
6 tcu L 28-38
19 tulane L 10-17
26 oklahoma W 41-34
30 oklahoma st W 48-0
64 iowa st W 10-9
66 missouri W 40-12
70 texas tech W 37-28
fcs south dakota W 34-0
Post by: wetwillie on October 31, 2022, 03:22:23 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on October 31, 2022, 03:34:27 PM
How TF did UT lose to TTU?
https://twitter.com/ESPN_BillC/status/1574537508746014720
Post by: Pete on October 31, 2022, 03:36:40 PM
How TF did UT lose to TTU?
The power of hate.
Post by: Katpappy on October 31, 2022, 04:28:26 PM
Post by: stunted on November 01, 2022, 01:41:49 AM
They are still pissed that Texass took their BB coach. :lol:
#thatsthejoke
Post by: mocat on November 01, 2022, 10:29:25 AM
not sure where to put this, but the sun belt has more wins against power 5 schools (+ notre dame) than the pac 12 does this year
:sdeek:
honestly they could extend their lead by the time bowl season starts:
11/05
#33 james madison 27
#28 louisville 27
11/19
#47 coastal carolina 27
#77 virginia 22
#81 louisiana-lafayette 21
#29 florida state 31
11/26
#11 usc 32
#23 notre dame 26
Post by: mocat on November 01, 2022, 10:41:01 AM
record by conference vs power 5 schools (+ notre dame), ranked by # of wins:
1. b12 7-3 (.700)
2. sec 7-4 (.636)
3. acc 6-9 (.400)
4. b10 5-6 (.455)
5. sbc 4-11 (.267)
6. p12 3-7 (.300)
7. aac 3-13 (.188)
8. mac 2-19 (.095)
9. cusa 1-9 (.100)
10. mwc 1-16 (.059)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 01, 2022, 11:20:45 AM
for anyone who cares:
record by conference vs power 5 schools (+ notre dame), ranked by # of wins:
1. b12 7-3 (.700)
2. sec 7-4 (.636)
3. acc 6-9 (.400)
4. b10 5-6 (.455)
5. sbc 4-11 (.267)
6. p12 3-7 (.300)
7. aac 3-13 (.188)
8. mac 2-19 (.095)
9. cusa 1-9 (.100)
10. mwc 1-16 (.059)
if my mocat math is correct...does that mean that at least 3 SEC schools have not (yet) played a non-con P5 game?
Post by: ChiComCat on November 01, 2022, 11:23:38 AM
for anyone who cares:
record by conference vs power 5 schools (+ notre dame), ranked by # of wins:
1. b12 7-3 (.700)
2. sec 7-4 (.636)
3. acc 6-9 (.400)
4. b10 5-6 (.455)
5. sbc 4-11 (.267)
6. p12 3-7 (.300)
7. aac 3-13 (.188)
8. mac 2-19 (.095)
9. cusa 1-9 (.100)
10. mwc 1-16 (.059)
if my mocat math is correct...does that mean that at least 3 SEC schools have not (yet) played a non-con P5 game?
I know some of the schools play some at the end of the year. Georgia/Georgia Tech, Clemson/South Carolina, and Florida/Florida State are ones that I'm thinking of. Georgia did already smoke Oregon though.
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 01, 2022, 11:26:19 AM
Post by: mocat on November 01, 2022, 11:41:24 AM
if my mocat math is correct...does that mean that at least 3 SEC schools have not (yet) played a non-con P5 game?
week 13:
florida vs florida st
georgia vs georgia tech
kentucky vs louisville
south carolina vs clemson
also a few more randos left:
clemson vs notre dame
boston college vs notre dame
usc vs notre dame
Pretty sure it's standard now for every P5 team to play at least one non con P5 team every year to be considered for the playoffs.
p5 teams with no p5+ND noncon opponent this year:
indiana
maryland
michigan
baylor
oregon state
ucla
arkansas
Post by: mocat on November 01, 2022, 11:43:34 AM
#126 colorado st W 51-7
#129 hawaii W 56-10
#99 connecticut W 59-0
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 01, 2022, 11:53:24 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 01, 2022, 11:57:47 AM
Post by: mocat on November 01, 2022, 12:11:02 PM
boston college (rutgers, notre dame)
clemson (notre dame, south carolina)
duke (northwestern, kansas)
florida st (lsu, florida)
georgia tech (mississippi, georgia)
pittsburgh (west virginia, tennessee)
syracuse (purdue, notre dame)
west virginia (pittsburgh, virginia tech)
colorado (tcu, minnesota)
oregon (georgia, byu)
stanford (notre dame, byu)
florida (utah, florida st)
georgia (oregon, georgia tech)
not sure what colorado's noncon strategy was while they were about to field one of the worst p5 squads ever
#6 tcu L 13-38
#74 air force L 10-41
#41 minnesota L 7-49
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 01, 2022, 12:20:10 PM
Pretty sure it's standard now for every P5 team to play at least one non con P5 team every year to be considered for the playoffs.I think this was a Big 12 thing with the round robin setup. Never mind.
Post by: Skipper44 on November 01, 2022, 01:22:31 PM
not sure what colorado's noncon strategy was while they were about to field one of the worst p5 squads everthey can't/won't pay for "buy" games. i would say over the last 10 or so years the Pac as a whole schedules more P5 noncons than the other conferences which is just one more reason Larry Scott was a complete failure
#6 tcu L 13-38
#74 air force L 10-41
#41 minnesota L 7-49
Post by: mocat on November 01, 2022, 01:41:33 PM
i would say over the last 10 or so years the Pac as a whole schedules more P5 noncons than the other conferences which is just one more reason Larry Scott was a complete failure
idk, as wacky mentioned, pretty much everybody does it now. it's more surprising when schools don't do it. especially michigan or ucla or other "prestige" programs with CFP aspirations.
and this year arkansas is surprising because i did actually think it was mandatory for SEC schools to schedule a p5 noncon
Post by: tdaver on November 01, 2022, 01:49:04 PM
Post by: mocat on November 01, 2022, 01:55:32 PM
Arkansas and Baylor are using the BYU loophole this year
i didn't realize they were on ND's level!
in that case, i will also give Oregon and Stanford credit for scheduling two p5+ND+BYU's this year
Post by: konofo on November 01, 2022, 02:11:15 PM
Interesting parts of this composite ranking:
- Yeah, yeah, computers love Texas
- Computers don't quite know what to think about us
- The Big XII has the best worst team in CFB, and none of our new friends would change that fact
- Beta_Rank best rank (sorry ChONGS)
Post by: ben ji on November 01, 2022, 04:08:20 PM
Arkansas also played Cincinnati this year and have Liberty this week. So despite no P5 games in their OOC it is not easy.Arkansas and Baylor are using the BYU loophole this year
i didn't realize they were on ND's level!
in that case, i will also give Oregon and Stanford credit for scheduling two p5+ND+BYU's this year
Only gimme was the Petrino led Missouri State Bears
Post by: MakeItRain on November 01, 2022, 06:14:32 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 01, 2022, 07:00:41 PM
Well the real rankings are on some bullshit. SEC SEC SEC
Yup, LOL at LSU being in the top 10, above Ole Miss and UCLA, that's the dumbest ranking of them all, or Clemson above Michigan (I get not all of that SEC but good lord)
Post by: cfbandyman on November 01, 2022, 07:04:03 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 01, 2022, 07:24:55 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on November 01, 2022, 07:31:56 PM
Snuck Texas in there to bump the ctr ratings
facts
Post by: wetwillie on November 01, 2022, 07:34:48 PM
And of course, a one loss bama over TCU
I don’t hate it, they will get to playoff if they run the table.
Post by: mocat on November 01, 2022, 08:50:41 PM
Post by: mocat on November 01, 2022, 08:54:15 PM
Post by: nicname on November 01, 2022, 10:00:45 PM
good grief this is a huge game this weekend
Third straight ranked matchup. It’s about damn time to beat Texas, which hasn’t really been any good recently. The mullet looked rattled at OSU. If BSFS isn’t a snake pit, the fans didn’t do their job.
Post by: Pete on November 02, 2022, 08:21:59 AM
Post by: catastrophe on November 02, 2022, 10:02:06 AM
Post by: mocat on November 02, 2022, 10:03:51 AM
Post by: mocat on November 02, 2022, 10:04:16 AM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 02, 2022, 10:06:25 AM
Post by: mocat on November 02, 2022, 10:11:39 AM
Do we here at gE.c have any inroads with the jumbotron operator? Bc I feel like that Case McCoy dumbfounded look.gif on loop could go a long way
also baby gundy's shaking hands from last week. i know it's not texas, but that should be in our weekly hype montage.
plus i'm sure a good chunk of our not as online fanbase probably hasn't even seen it!
Post by: XocolateThundarr on November 02, 2022, 01:08:11 PM
Michigan should have scheduled someone with a pulse in the noncon if they are upset. They put all their CFP eggs in the tOSU basket (maybe rightfully so)
Facts.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 02, 2022, 01:27:56 PM
if we are about to win can we get a just like 2012 clap clap clapclapclap thing going?Checks notes.... no
Post by: nicname on November 06, 2022, 09:48:10 PM
Btw, our strength of schedule is no. 3 hardest according to this guy. His top four hardest schedules are all in the Big 12. He has us ranked 14 in his power ratings.
http://powerrankingsguru.com/college-football/strength-of-schedule.php
Post by: Spracne on November 06, 2022, 10:17:07 PM
Post by: nicname on November 06, 2022, 11:01:59 PM
Is that guy some sort of guru?
A very specific type of guru.
Post by: nicname on November 06, 2022, 11:04:16 PM
Post by: mocat on November 07, 2022, 09:47:34 AM
1. ohio st
2. georgia
3. michigan
4. tennessee
5. alabama
6. tcu
7. usc
8. ucla
9. penn st
10. texas
11. lsu
12. oregon
13. mississippi
14. troy
15. clemson
16. ucf
17. illinois
18. kansas
19. notre dame
20. kansas st
21. louisville
22. tulane
23. utah
24. florida st
25. north carolina
26. cincinnati
31. oklahoma
36. baylor
42. oklahoma st
55. byu
61. iowa st
63. houston
71. missouri
75. texas tech
76. texas a&m
92. west virginia
103. nebraska
125. colorado
b12 past, present, future games
#45 east carolina 27
#26 cincinnati 29
#125 colorado 17
#7 usc 51
#31 oklahoma 37
#92 west virginia 29
#71 missouri 19
#4 tennessee 39
#119 temple 23
#63 houston 39
#61 iowa st 26
#42 oklahoma st 27
#103 nebraska 15
#3 michigan 46
#16 ucf 26
#22 tulane 26
#20 kansas st 29
#36 baylor 28
#18 kansas 36
#75 texas tech 30
#76 texas a&m 26
#77 auburn 25
#6 tcu 33
#10 texas 32
Post by: Spaces on November 08, 2022, 12:47:55 PM
#20 kansas st 29please :pray:
#36 baylor 28
#6 tcu 33
#10 texas 32
Post by: cfbandyman on November 08, 2022, 12:50:25 PM
#20 kansas st 29please :pray:
#36 baylor 28
#6 tcu 33
#10 texas 32
Team all purple teams Saturday
Post by: mocat on November 08, 2022, 01:20:51 PM
snowbrag week 10
b12 p,p,f games
#39 kentucky 23 21
#66 missouri 21 17
#41 minnesota 34 20
#100 nebraska 20 13
#45 florida 26 41
#63 texas a&m 26 24
#70 texas tech 28 24
#6 tcu 41 34
#40 baylor 31 38
#26 oklahoma 30 35
#14 oregon 49 49
#125 colorado 20 10
#92 west virginia 23 14
#64 iowa st 30 31
#30 oklahoma st 35 16
#27 kansas 36 37
#21 ucf 35 35
#71 memphis 25 28
#109 navy 20 10
#24 cincinnati 35 20
#67 byu 23 31
#37 boise state 30 28
#58 houston 31 63
#53 smu 34 77
#13 texas 26 34
#10 kansas st 28 27
snowbrag did pretty good on these last week (10-2-1).
Post by: ben ji on November 08, 2022, 07:15:22 PM
Post by: nicname on November 13, 2022, 09:21:51 AM
TCU +78
KSU +76
Texas +60
Baylor +18
Tech -1
KU -7
ISU -17
OSU -38
OU -69
WVU -90
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 13, 2022, 09:58:06 AM
Post by: catastrophe on November 13, 2022, 10:03:13 AM
So the 5 games not against Baylor and OSU our differential is +/-0Yeah I mean, if you exclude 40% of our Big 12 wins and look at only the ones where we went 3-2, that seems about right.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 13, 2022, 10:20:11 AM
So the 5 games not against Baylor and OSU our differential is +/-0
This is okcat levels of trying too hard lmao
Post by: wetwillie on November 13, 2022, 11:20:32 AM
Not rankings, but B12 point differential. TCU and KSU separating ourselves as the cream of the conference. I think we beat them in a rematch.
TCU +78
KSU +76
Texas +60
Baylor +18
Tech -1
KU -7
ISU -17
OSU -38
OU -69
WVU -90
If William Howard is really going to redshirt we aren’t beating them in a rematch
Post by: KITNfury on November 13, 2022, 11:38:03 AM
I think deep down everyone knows Will is the guy going forward.Not rankings, but B12 point differential. TCU and KSU separating ourselves as the cream of the conference. I think we beat them in a rematch.
TCU +78
KSU +76
Texas +60
Baylor +18
Tech -1
KU -7
ISU -17
OSU -38
OU -69
WVU -90
If William Howard is really going to redshirt we aren’t beating them in a rematch
Post by: nicname on November 13, 2022, 12:47:45 PM
Post by: kim carnes on November 13, 2022, 01:37:50 PM
I think deep down everyone knows Will is the guy going forward.Not rankings, but B12 point differential. TCU and KSU separating ourselves as the cream of the conference. I think we beat them in a rematch.
TCU +78
KSU +76
Texas +60
Baylor +18
Tech -1
KU -7
ISU -17
OSU -38
OU -69
WVU -90
If William Howard is really going to redshirt we aren’t beating them in a rematch
It would be dumb to burn his redshirt at this point
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 13, 2022, 02:09:04 PM
I think deep down everyone knows Will is the guy going forward.Not rankings, but B12 point differential. TCU and KSU separating ourselves as the cream of the conference. I think we beat them in a rematch.
TCU +78
KSU +76
Texas +60
Baylor +18
Tech -1
KU -7
ISU -17
OSU -38
OU -69
WVU -90
If William Howard is really going to redshirt we aren’t beating them in a rematch
It would be dumb to burn his redshirt at this point
Yeah, because conference titles are so easy to come by.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 13, 2022, 02:11:02 PM
I think deep down everyone knows Will is the guy going forward.Not rankings, but B12 point differential. TCU and KSU separating ourselves as the cream of the conference. I think we beat them in a rematch.
TCU +78
KSU +76
Texas +60
Baylor +18
Tech -1
KU -7
ISU -17
OSU -38
OU -69
WVU -90
If William Howard is really going to redshirt we aren’t beating them in a rematch
It would be dumb to burn his redshirt at this point
Yeah, because conference titles are so easy to come by.
He was being facetious
Post by: kim carnes on November 13, 2022, 02:27:58 PM
I think deep down everyone knows Will is the guy going forward.Not rankings, but B12 point differential. TCU and KSU separating ourselves as the cream of the conference. I think we beat them in a rematch.
TCU +78
KSU +76
Texas +60
Baylor +18
Tech -1
KU -7
ISU -17
OSU -38
OU -69
WVU -90
If William Howard is really going to redshirt we aren’t beating them in a rematch
It would be dumb to burn his redshirt at this point
Yeah, because conference titles are so easy to come by.
He was being facetious
I’m not, you said it yourself, conference titles are pretty meaningless
Post by: MakeItRain on November 13, 2022, 02:31:18 PM
I think deep down everyone knows Will is the guy going forward.Not rankings, but B12 point differential. TCU and KSU separating ourselves as the cream of the conference. I think we beat them in a rematch.
TCU +78
KSU +76
Texas +60
Baylor +18
Tech -1
KU -7
ISU -17
OSU -38
OU -69
WVU -90
If William Howard is really going to redshirt we aren’t beating them in a rematch
It would be dumb to burn his redshirt at this point
Yeah, because conference titles are so easy to come by.
He was being facetious
I’m not, you said it yourself, conference titles are pretty meaningless
Yeah, I didn't say that. You're being a silly bitch, for attention.
Post by: kim carnes on November 13, 2022, 02:31:59 PM
Post by: kim carnes on November 13, 2022, 02:37:26 PM
Post by: KITNfury on November 13, 2022, 02:45:25 PM
I’d rather have two stabs at making the playoffs with howard than try to win a conference championship this yearYou have to play for this season, which is completely obvious. But to play along, I don't think we're just going to reload what we're likely to lose after this year.
Post by: kim carnes on November 13, 2022, 02:51:36 PM
I’d rather have two stabs at making the playoffs with howard than try to win a conference championship this yearYou have to play for this season, which is completely obvious. But to play along, I don't think we're just going to reload what we're likely to lose after this year.
I agree, he should’ve started against texas but our coaches didn’t see it that way.
Post by: KITNfury on November 13, 2022, 02:59:46 PM
Nothing has really changed. Our ceiling is the same today as it was then.I’d rather have two stabs at making the playoffs with howard than try to win a conference championship this yearYou have to play for this season, which is completely obvious. But to play along, I don't think we're just going to reload what we're likely to lose after this year.
I agree, he should’ve started against texas but our coaches didn’t see it that way.
Post by: kim carnes on November 13, 2022, 03:15:02 PM
Post by: kim carnes on November 13, 2022, 04:18:45 PM
Post by: Pete on November 13, 2022, 04:34:52 PM
And another thing fellas, I don’t think this coaching staff ever gave howard a fair shake at being the starter this season which is sad.You don’t think it’s possible that the staff (like us) is surprised he has improved this much?
Post by: star seed 7 on November 13, 2022, 05:34:25 PM
Post by: kst8cat on November 13, 2022, 07:46:00 PM
I’d rather have two stabs at making the playoffs with howard than try to win a conference championship this year
I thought that the covid year did not count toward eligibility, so wouldn't that make Howard a sophomore this year anyway? Was it not a "free" year for everyone?
Post by: wetwillie on November 13, 2022, 08:34:41 PM
I’d rather have two stabs at making the playoffs with howard than try to win a conference championship this year
I thought that the covid year did not count toward eligibility, so wouldn't that make Howard a sophomore this year anyway? Was it not a "free" year for everyone?
Yes he has 5 years with covid year
Post by: catastrophe on November 13, 2022, 08:38:04 PM
Yeah I think the fair shake thing is bs. I’m convinced Howard always looked solid in practice which would explain our dedication to him when he kept crapping the bed in past seasons.And another thing fellas, I don’t think this coaching staff ever gave howard a fair shake at being the starter this season which is sad.You don’t think it’s possible that the staff (like us) is surprised he has improved this much?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 14, 2022, 09:23:26 AM
I’d rather have two stabs at making the playoffs with howard than try to win a conference championship this year
I thought that the covid year did not count toward eligibility, so wouldn't that make Howard a sophomore this year anyway? Was it not a "free" year for everyone?
Yes he has 5 years with covid year
So we are trying to redshirt him so he can play in 2025?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 14, 2022, 09:31:38 AM
I’d rather have two stabs at making the playoffs with howard than try to win a conference championship this year
I thought that the covid year did not count toward eligibility, so wouldn't that make Howard a sophomore this year anyway? Was it not a "free" year for everyone?
Yes he has 5 years with covid year
So we are trying to redshirt him so he can play in 2025?
"We" aren't trying to do anything. Klieman has made it clear that he was trying to honor Will's wish to be redshirted.
It's all moot at this point.
Post by: mocat on November 14, 2022, 09:45:59 AM
#20 kansas st 29please :pray:
#36 baylor 28
#6 tcu 33
#10 texas 32
Team all purple teams Saturday
:excited:
Post by: wetwillie on November 14, 2022, 09:48:24 AM
Post by: Spaces on November 14, 2022, 10:15:58 AM
:D thank you snowbrag!#20 kansas st 29please :pray:
#36 baylor 28
#6 tcu 33
#10 texas 32
Team all purple teams Saturday
:excited:
Post by: kim carnes on November 14, 2022, 10:27:57 AM
Post by: mocat on November 14, 2022, 10:58:04 AM
1. ohio st
2. georgia
3. michigan
4. tennessee
5. alabama
6. tcu
7. penn st
8. lsu
9. usc
10. ucf
11. texas
12. florida st
13. troy
14. clemson
15. kansas st
16. utah
17. mississippi
18. ucla
19. north carolina
20. notre dame
21. cincinnati
22. oregon
23. tulane
24. kansas
25. louisville
34. oklahoma st
43. oklahoma
44. baylor
60. byu
61. houston
66. texas tech
69. iowa st
77. missouri
80. texas a&m
88. west virginia
102. nebraska
125. colorado
b12 past, present, future games
#108 navy 18
#10 ucf 37
#40 wisconsin 33
#102 nebraska 21
#6 tcu 36
#44 baylor 28
#131 massachusetts 15
#80 texas a&m 33
#61 houston 30
#54 east carolina 35
#11 texas 33
#24 kansas 30
#21 cincinnati 37
#121 temple 19
#66 texas tech 25
#69 iowa st 26
#117 new mexico st 19
#77 missouri 31
#34 oklahoma st 32
#43 oklahoma 31
#125 colorado 19
#29 washington 48
#15 kansas st 35
#88 west virginia 22
Post by: MakeItRain on November 14, 2022, 11:51:58 AM
I wonder why will wanted to be redshirted… hmmm
You do? Seems pretty obvious. You that dumb?
Post by: kim carnes on November 14, 2022, 12:07:07 PM
I wonder why will wanted to be redshirted… hmmm
You do? Seems pretty obvious. You that dumb?
Spell it out for everyone
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 14, 2022, 02:16:35 PM
snowbrag week 12
1. ohio st
2. georgia
3. michigan
4. tennessee
5. alabama
6. tcu
7. penn st
8. lsu
9. usc
10. ucf
11. texas
12. florida st
13. troy
14. clemson
15. kansas st
16. utah
17. mississippi
18. ucla
19. north carolina
20. notre dame
21. cincinnati
22. oregon
23. tulane
24. kansas
25. louisville
34. oklahoma st
43. oklahoma
44. baylor
60. byu
61. houston
66. texas tech
69. iowa st
77. missouri
80. texas a&m
88. west virginia
102. nebraska
125. colorado
b12 past, present, future games
#108 navy 18
#10 ucf 37
#40 wisconsin 33
#102 nebraska 21
#6 tcu 36
#44 baylor 28
#131 massachusetts 15
#80 texas a&m 33
#61 houston 30
#54 east carolina 35
#11 texas 33
#24 kansas 30
#21 cincinnati 37
#121 temple 19
#66 texas tech 25
#69 iowa st 26
#117 new mexico st 19
#77 missouri 31
#34 oklahoma st 32
#43 oklahoma 31
#125 colorado 19
#29 washington 48
#15 kansas st 35
#88 west virginia 22
how'd SNOWBRAG do last week like 8-3-1 or something like that?
Post by: mocat on November 14, 2022, 02:34:59 PM
how'd SNOWBRAG do last week like 8-3-1 or something like that?
yep, 8-3-1
snowbrag week 11
b12 past, present, future games
#45 east carolina 27 25
#26 cincinnati 29 27
#125 colorado 17 17
#7 usc 51 55
#31 oklahoma 37 20
#92 west virginia 29 23
#71 missouri 19 24
#4 tennessee 39 66
#119 temple 23 36
#63 houston 39 43
#61 iowa st 26 14
#42 oklahoma st 27 20
#103 nebraska 15 3
#3 michigan 46 34
#16 ucf 26 38
#22 tulane 26 31
#20 kansas st 29 31
#36 baylor 28 3
#18 kansas 36 28
#75 texas tech 30 43
#76 texas a&m 26 10
#77 auburn 25 13
#6 tcu 33 17
#10 texas 32 10
Post by: stunted on November 14, 2022, 02:52:34 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 14, 2022, 03:07:24 PM
I wonder why will wanted to be redshirted… hmmm
You do? Seems pretty obvious. You that dumb?
Spell it out for everyone
Because he didn't want to waste a third year of eligibility being a back up. I find it really hard to believe you don't understand that. I'm certain you get it.
Post by: mocat on November 14, 2022, 03:22:33 PM
How does SNOWBRAG compare to Vegas? What if you only took bets that could be more in your favor. Like if Vegas puts the line +5 but SNOWBRAG says +10
i generally use snowbrag to help make bets, but i've found most of the time there is a huge difference like that, it's bc vegas is incredibly good at their job.
snowbrag was slow to fade Syracuse this year, for example, so if i would have followed snowbrag and bet on Syracuse to cover even a teased spread, i would have lost 3 weeks in a row.
Post by: mocat on November 15, 2022, 05:54:04 PM
number is wins above / below expected
1. tcu +2.4
2. north carolina +2.3
3. troy +2.0
4. clemson +1.9
5. coastal carolina +1.8
6. oklahoma st +1.4
7. lsu +1.4
8. liberty +1.2
9. tennessee +1.2
10. wyoming +1.1
.
.
.
43. kansas st +0.4
.
53. texas tech +0.2
60. kansas +0.1
.
69. west virginia -0.1
70. oklahoma -0.1
82. baylor -0.2
.
96. texas -0.6
.
117. iowa st -1.2
.
122. navy -1.4
123. nevada -1.5
124. massachusetts -1.6
125. western kentucky -1.6
126. akron -1.6
127. northern illinois -1.6
128. virginia tech -1.6
129. army -1.7
130. uab -1.8
131. northwestern -1.9
Post by: CHONGS on November 15, 2022, 07:16:50 PM
Post by: mocat on November 21, 2022, 04:14:57 PM
1. ohio st
2. georgia
3. michigan
4. alabama
5. penn st
6. tennessee
7. tcu
8. lsu
9. texas
10. florida st
11. usc
12. clemson
13. troy
14. kansas st
15. tulane
16. oregon
17. notre dame
18. ucf
19. louisville
20. utah
21. cincinnati
22. mississippi
23. utsa
24. ucla
25. south alabama
31. kansas
34. oklahoma
46. houston
47. baylor
50. oklahoma st
62. byu
64. texas tech
73. missouri
74. iowa st
76. texas a&m
88. west virginia
106. nebraska
125. colorado
b12 past, present, future games
#47 baylor 25
#9 texas 34
#15 tulane 28
#21 cincinnati 26
#49 arkansas 29
#73 missouri 26
#106 nebraska 16
#32 iowa 26
#88 west virginia 28
#50 oklahoma st 37
#20 utah 48
#125 colorado 16
#74 iowa st 20
#7 tcu 31
#8 lsu 31
#76 texas a&m 19
#18 ucf 47
#126 south florida 21
#100 tulsa 28
#46 houston 40
#34 oklahoma 30
#64 texas tech 30
#62 byu 33
#112 stanford 25
#31 kansas 26
#14 kansas st 34
Post by: wetwillie on November 21, 2022, 04:46:07 PM
Post by: CatTracks on November 21, 2022, 07:02:16 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 21, 2022, 07:10:24 PM
Post by: mocat on November 23, 2022, 01:52:15 PM
Why does snowbrag hate the cats?
#14 feels right to me.
this is the complete list of teams that snowbrag would favor on a neutral field vs the cats (i will update the list after this week's games):
#1 ohio st -12
#2 georgia -10.5
#3 michigan -9.5
#4 alabama -6
#6 tennessee -5*
#5 penn st -3.5
#7 tcu -2
#8 lsu -2
#9 texas -2
#10 florida st -2
#11 usc -1.5
#20 utah -1.5
#12 clemson -0.5
*snowbrag does not account for QB ACL tears
Post by: nicname on November 23, 2022, 02:07:34 PM
Cats looking solid here.
Post by: cfbandyman on November 23, 2022, 02:32:33 PM
Why does snowbrag hate the cats?
#14 feels right to me.
this is the complete list of teams that snowbrag would favor on a neutral field vs the cats (i will update the list after this week's games):
#1 ohio st -12
#2 georgia -10.5
#3 michigan -9.5
#4 alabama -6
#6 tennessee -5*
#5 penn st -3.5
#7 tcu -2
#8 lsu -2
#9 texas -2
#10 florida st -2
#11 usc -1.5
#20 utah -1.5
#12 clemson -0.5
*snowbrag does not account for QB ACL tears
I feel so bad for Hooker, dudes a baller
Post by: mocat on November 23, 2022, 03:09:29 PM
tcu hasn't won a game by more than 10 points since their 4th game, and yet they are 11-0.
1. georgia 97.21
2. ohio st 96.64
3. alabama 93.19
4. michigan 90.78
5. penn st 89.85
6. tennessee 89.59
7. texas 88.06
8. utah 87.91
9. oregon 87.21
10. lsu 86.95
11. clemson 86.92
12. kansas st 86.61
13. tcu 86.34
14. usc 85.20
15. notre dame 85.15
16. florida st 84.99
17. oklahoma 83.16
18. oregon st 82.99
19. washington 82.73
20. baylor 82.19
21. iowa 81.49
22. mississippi 81.21
23 mississippi st 80.89
24. louisville 80.80
25. arkansas 80.42
Post by: mocat on November 23, 2022, 03:18:03 PM
1. tcu +2.8 (!) wins above expected
2. troy +2.1
3. clemson +2.0
4. coastal carolina +1.9
5. north carolina +1.8
6. lsu +1.4
7. usc +1.4
8. georgia +1.3
9. oregon +1.2
10. oklahoma st +1.2
.
34. kansas st +0.7
40. texas tech +0.6
54. kansas +0.2
57. oklahoma +0.2
77. west virginia -0.2
91. baylor -0.6
92. texas -0.6
.
122. akron -1.5
123. army -1.5
124. iowa st -1.5
125. nevada -1.5
126. new mexico -1.6
127. western kentucky -1.7
128. uab -1.7
129. massachusetts -1.7
130. northwestern -2.1
131. northern illinois -2.1
listen i would not call for an iowa state upset, but on saturday you have the luckiest team in the country barely scraping across the finish line to 11-0 on fumes, hosting one of the unluckiest teams in the country who have a history of wrecking perfect seasons
Post by: I_have_purplewood on November 27, 2022, 12:40:44 PM
#10 in Coaches poll. :eek: (ftp://:eek:)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 27, 2022, 01:08:08 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 27, 2022, 01:19:48 PM
Really thought we'd be somewhere between 6 & 9
I tell my wife the same thing
Post by: nicname on November 27, 2022, 01:39:57 PM
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Post by: mocat on November 28, 2022, 10:18:38 AM
1. georgia
2. michigan
3. ohio st
4. tennessee
5. alabama
6. tcu
7. penn st
8. texas
9. usc
10. florida st
11. kansas st
12. tulane
13. troy
14. lsu
15. clemson
16. oregon
17. oregon st
18. notre dame
19. utah
20. utsa
21. washington
22. ucf
23. cincinnati
24. james madison
25. ucla
39. kansas
40. oklahoma
52. houston
53. baylor
59. texas tech
62. byu
65. oklahoma st
66. missouri
73. texas a&m
77. iowa st
83. west virginia
89. nebraska
130. colorado
week 14 games:
#127 akron 23
#113 buffalo 35
#60 north texas 28
#20 utsa 37
#19 utah 32
#9 usc 32
#14 lsu 21
#1 georgia 31
#15 clemson 34
#36 north carolina 28
#71 toledo 31
#67 ohio 31
#48 coastal carolina 21
#13 troy 29
#22 ucf 26
#12 tulane 29
#44 fresno st 23
#30 boise st 27
#49 purdue 18
#2 michigan 35
#11 kansas st 29
#6 tcu 31
Post by: mocat on November 28, 2022, 10:23:27 AM
#1 georgia +9.5
#2 michigan +9.5
#3 ohio st +8.5
#4 tennessee +6
#5 alabama +5
#7 penn st +3
#6 tcu +2.5
#8 texas +1.5
#10 florida st +1
#9 usc +1
#19 utah +0.5
possible sugar bowl opponent LSU:
#11 kansas st 27
#14 lsu 26
Post by: mocat on November 28, 2022, 10:25:50 AM
Incredible that SNOWBRAG picks a tie every week but hard to argue with the results
snowbrag week 13
#34 oklahoma 30
#64 texas tech 30
this game went into OT :D
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 28, 2022, 10:34:47 AM
Incredible that SNOWBRAG picks a tie every week but hard to argue with the resultssnowbrag week 13
#34 oklahoma 30
#64 texas tech 30
this game went into OT :D
‘22 really a vintage year for SNOWBRAG. Did you run the numbers on how you would have done if you bet all those games this season? Feels like + several hundred dollars
Post by: catastrophe on November 28, 2022, 11:12:27 AM
complete list of teams that snowbrag would favor on a neutral field vs ksu:Fortunately we’ll get to put one of those to the test this weekend. Hopefully followed by another.
#1 georgia +9.5
#2 michigan +9.5
#3 ohio st +8.5
#4 tennessee +6
#5 alabama +5
#7 penn st +3
#6 tcu +2.5
#8 texas +1.5
#10 florida st +1
#9 usc +1
#19 utah +0.5
possible sugar bowl opponent LSU:
#11 kansas st 27
#14 lsu 26
Post by: mocat on November 28, 2022, 12:31:42 PM
Incredible that SNOWBRAG picks a tie every week but hard to argue with the resultssnowbrag week 13
#34 oklahoma 30
#64 texas tech 30
this game went into OT :D
‘22 really a vintage year for SNOWBRAG. Did you run the numbers on how you would have done if you bet all those games this season? Feels like + several hundred dollars
batting about .787 for the season, but i haven't tracked vs the vegas spread for every game. if you bet the ML on every game and were correct on 79% of games, i think you'd probably lose money.
Post by: mocat on November 28, 2022, 12:57:51 PM
sagarin's rankings more than most others ignore W/L record and focus on efficiency and SOS. no surprise to see texas at the top of the b12, and tcu below the cats in his rankings.
tcu hasn't won a game by more than 10 points since their 4th game, and yet they are 11-0.
1. georgia 97.21
2. ohio st 96.64
3. alabama 93.19
4. michigan 90.78
5. penn st 89.85
6. tennessee 89.59
7. texas 88.06
8. utah 87.91
9. oregon 87.21
10. lsu 86.95
11. clemson 86.92
12. kansas st 86.61
13. tcu 86.34
14. usc 85.20
15. notre dame 85.15
16. florida st 84.99
17. oklahoma 83.16
18. oregon st 82.99
19. washington 82.73
20. baylor 82.19
21. iowa 81.49
22. mississippi 81.21
23 mississippi st 80.89
24. louisville 80.80
25. arkansas 80.42
tcu dominating iowa state really made an impression on sagarin's rating system, causing them to move up 6 spots. michigan destroying ohio st was not enough for them to overtake tOSU in the rankings
1. georgia 95.97
2. ohio st 94.14
3. michigan 93.72
4. alabama 93.69
5. tennessee 91.90
6. penn st 89.73
7. tcu 88.94
8. texas 88.79
9. utah 88.62
10. kansas st 87.25
11. usc 86.68
12. oregon 86.55
13. clemson 84.91
14. washington 84.86
15. lsu 84.56
Post by: wetwillie on November 28, 2022, 01:46:24 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 04, 2022, 02:31:35 PM
Post by: konofo on December 04, 2022, 02:36:47 PM
NGL, I'm pissed about the committee jumping Utah over us and I'm even more pissed that the guys on the selection show didn't notice it or asked the committee chair about it. I wouldn't have been pissed at all if they were above us before this weekend, but to have them jump us after we beat TCU is insane.Under the 2024 format, this snub would have cost us a first round bye, and sent us on the road to Tennessee.
kono
Post by: MakeItRain on December 04, 2022, 02:41:07 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on December 04, 2022, 02:47:13 PM
Post by: nicname on December 04, 2022, 03:15:55 PM
A lil upset about that, but yeah, in two years I'd be really pissed, right now, beating bama would be better than anything else and ending the season ranked higher than them would be amazeballs
Do we get the Alabama JV or an angry Bama looking to “prove” they belong in the CFP? I think we win either way.
Post by: nicname on December 04, 2022, 03:21:06 PM
https://masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm
The Colley Matrix has rocketed into my consciousness this season and is also really good. It has us at No. 9, one spot behind Bama.
https://www.colleyrankings.com/currank.html
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 04, 2022, 03:47:21 PM
A lil upset about that, but yeah, in two years I'd be really pissed, right now, beating bama would be better than anything else and ending the season ranked higher than them would be amazeballs
Do we get the Alabama JV or an angry Bama looking to “prove” they belong in the CFP? I think we win either way.
No doubt we get their best shot. They have a chip on their shoulder because the committee saw them for the frauds that they are. No big deal, though. Cats roll.
Post by: cfbandyman on December 04, 2022, 03:51:19 PM
A lil upset about that, but yeah, in two years I'd be really pissed, right now, beating bama would be better than anything else and ending the season ranked higher than them would be amazeballs
Do we get the Alabama JV or an angry Bama looking to “prove” they belong in the CFP? I think we win either way.
A straight up game vs them would be super interesting, our numbers are very close. If it's a JV game we obv should win. Regardless I doubt they will be as motived as we are whether they have something to prove or no.
The thing I am most interested to see is how we do from a coaching standpoint, I really want to know how we stack up.
A win and we're probably a top 10 team to start next year, which is :lynchmob:
Post by: nicname on December 04, 2022, 04:12:23 PM
A lil upset about that, but yeah, in two years I'd be really pissed, right now, beating bama would be better than anything else and ending the season ranked higher than them would be amazeballs
Do we get the Alabama JV or an angry Bama looking to “prove” they belong in the CFP? I think we win either way.
A straight up game vs them would be super interesting, our numbers are very close. If it's a JV game we obv should win. Regardless I doubt they will be as motived as we are whether they have something to prove or no.
The thing I am most interested to see is how we do from a coaching standpoint, I really want to know how we stack up.
A win and we're probably a top 10 team to start next year, which is :lynchmob:
If they come in motivated, the real question will be how they react when we punch them in the mouth.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 04, 2022, 04:14:27 PM
A lil upset about that, but yeah, in two years I'd be really pissed, right now, beating bama would be better than anything else and ending the season ranked higher than them would be amazeballs
Do we get the Alabama JV or an angry Bama looking to “prove” they belong in the CFP? I think we win either way.
A straight up game vs them would be super interesting, our numbers are very close. If it's a JV game we obv should win. Regardless I doubt they will be as motived as we are whether they have something to prove or no.
The thing I am most interested to see is how we do from a coaching standpoint, I really want to know how we stack up.
A win and we're probably a top 10 team to start next year, which is :lynchmob:
If they come in motivated, the real question will be how they react when we punch them in the mouth.
Tears
Post by: mocat on December 05, 2022, 08:54:00 AM
1 georgia
2. michigan
3. ohio st
4. tennessee
5. alabama
6. penn st
7. tcu
8. texas
9. tulane
10. kansas st
11. florida st
12. troy
13. clemson
14. usc
15. lsu
16. utah
17. utsa
18. oregon
19. oregon st
20. notre dame
21. washington
22. cincinnati
23. james madison
24. south alabama
25. ucla
32. ucf
39. kansas
40. oklahoma
49. houston
52. baylor
60. texas tech
62. byu
64. missouri
67. oklahoma st
73. texas a&m
78. iowa st
83. west virginia
90. nebraska
130. colorado
b12 + other good bowls:
#22 cincinnati 24
#26 louisville 26
#55 smu 35
#62 byu 33
#52 baylor 24
#46 air force 26
#73 louisiana-lafayette 29
#49 houston 32
#50 wake forest 32
#64 missouri 27
#43 wisconsin 29
#67 oklahoma st 26
#32 ucf 31
#59 duke 26
#39 kansas 32
#61 arkansas 32
#60 texas tech 28
#28 mississippi 33
#40 oklahoma 25
#11 florida st 35
#8 texas 35
#21 washington 28
#14 usc 31
#9 tulane 32
#16 utah 27
#6 penn st 30
#4 tennessee 35
#13 clemson 28
#2 michigan 35
#7 tcu 25
#1 georgia 29
#3 ohio st 28
#5 alabama 31
#10 kansas st 26
Post by: wetwillie on December 05, 2022, 11:26:58 AM
Post by: mocat on December 05, 2022, 11:41:22 AM
That%u2019s not the Troy we have to play next year at #12 right mocat?
the one and only.
we played the eventual AAC champ this year (tulane), and next year we will play the defending sun belt champ (troy), who coincidentally will play the CUSA champ (UTSA) in their bowl game next week. should be a nail biter
Duluth Trading Cure Bowl - 12/16
#12 troy 28
#17 utsa 27
Post by: mocat on December 05, 2022, 03:02:25 PM
#5 alabama (off/def rank: #9/#3)
at #4 tennessee L 49-52
at #8 texas W 20-19
at #15 lsu L 31-32
at #28 mississippi W 30-24
vs #29 mississippi st W 30-6
vs #54 auburn W 49-27
at #61 arkansas W 49-26
vs #73 texas a&m W 24-20
vs #101 utah st W 55-0
vs #107 vanderbilt W 55-3
vs #112 louisiana-monroe W 63-7
vs FCS austin peay W 34-0
sos rank = #57
#10 kansas st (off/def rank: #21/#13)
at #7 tcu L 28-38
vs #7 tcu W 31-28
vs #8 texas L 27-34
vs #9 tulane L 10-17
vs #39 kansas W 47-27
at #40 oklahoma W 41-34
at #52 baylor W 31-3
vs #60 texas tech W 37-28
vs #64 missouri W 40-12
vs #67 oklahoma st W 48-0
at #78 iowa st W 10-9
at #83 west virginia W 48-31
vs FCS south dakota W 34-0
sos rank: #14
these are very similar resumes, imo:
lost two barnburners each to top 15 opponents
one slugfest vs top 10 opponent (bama won theirs vs texas; ksu lost theirs vs tulane)
one blowout home win vs top 40 opponent
one close road win vs top 40 opponent
games vs teams worse than 50: all blowout wins, except one narrow escape (vs texas a&m / iowa st, respectively)
34-0 win vs FCS school
only difference is KSU was given one more opportunity vs a top 10 opponent and won in OT.
rushing YPP ranks
alabama off/def: #6/#24
kansas st off/def: #23/#85
passing YPP ranks
alabama off/def: #38/#3
kansas st off/def: #50/#23
total YPP ranks
alabama off/def: #13/#5
kansas st off/def: #35/#50
PPP ranks
alabama off/def: #5/#9
kansas st off/def: #26/#14
- the biggest thing that jumps out is alabama's #6 rushing attack vs kstate's #85 rushing defense. hopefully their entire O line declares for the draft or something.
- kstate's passing numbers are obviously not representative of the offense once wowitzer took over, so it will be interesting to see how Klein is able to attack a #3 ranked passing defense, who are only allowing 5.6 yards per attempt on the season as a group.
Post by: mocat on December 30, 2022, 08:28:09 AM
snowbrag rankings - prebowl szn
b12 + other good bowls:
#39 kansas 32
#61 arkansas 32
this one was 38-38 at the end of regulation :D
Post by: mocat on January 03, 2023, 09:09:00 AM
snowbrag hates TCU :frown:
1. georgia
2. michigan
3. ohio st
4. alabama
5. tennessee
6. penn st
7. tcu
8. tulane
9. florida st
10. texas
11. troy
12. lsu
13. kansas st
14. clemson
15. oregon st
16. oregon
17. washington
18. notre dame
19. usc
20. louisville
21. utsa
22. mississippi st
23. utah
24. james madison
25. boise st
28. cincinnati
35. ucf
42. houston
46. oklahoma
51. byu
55. kansas
56. texas tech
59. baylor
67. texas a&m
71. oklahoma st
73. missouri
79. iowa st
85. west virginia
91. nebraska
130. colorado
CFP final
#7 tcu 26
#1 georgia 35
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 03, 2023, 09:12:50 AM
Post by: mocat on January 03, 2023, 09:24:56 AM
ohio st 37
Post by: mocat on January 03, 2023, 10:08:21 AM
Post by: mocat on January 03, 2023, 10:18:34 AM
Post by: wetwillie on January 03, 2023, 10:58:56 AM
Post by: mocat on January 03, 2023, 11:11:22 AM
What if you had taken the points based on the handicapping from snowbrags output?
i'll have to go back and see how snowbrag did vs the spread for each game
Post by: MakeItRain on January 04, 2023, 12:24:46 PM
Post by: Houstoncat93 on January 10, 2023, 11:05:10 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on January 10, 2023, 11:44:17 AM
Seeing the Cats ranked in a lot of the "too early" Top 25s for next year.
We should, we'll be probably no less than 3rd in the Big 12 preseason IMO
Post by: I_have_purplewood on January 10, 2023, 11:58:27 AM
Seeing the Cats ranked in a lot of the "too early" Top 25s for next year.
This will be something you will need to be accustomed to when we become the dominant leader of the Big 12. Soak it in. :lynchmob: (ftp://:lynchmob:)
Post by: cfbandyman on January 10, 2023, 12:25:42 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 10, 2023, 12:37:35 PM
Post by: mocat on January 10, 2023, 12:39:32 PM
final rankings:
1. georgia
2. michigan
3. ohio st
4. alabama
5. tennessee
6. penn st
7. tulane
8. tcu
9. florida st
10. texas
11. troy
12. lsu
13. kansas st
14. clemson
15. oregon st
16. oregon
17. washington
18. notre dame
19. usc
20. utsa
21. louisville
22. mississippi st
23. utah
24. james madison
25. boise st
28. cincinnati
35. ucf
42. houston
46. oklahoma
51. byu
55. kansas
56. texas tech
59. baylor
67. texas a&m
71. oklahoma st
73. missouri
79. iowa st
85. west virginia
91. nebraska
130. colorado
Post by: Hurricane Cat on January 11, 2023, 05:53:21 PM
Final AP is #14, probably about right. We'll also I think be pretty close to that or in the 17ish area to start next year.
14 in the coaches poll as well. Heard Jim Mora and Hugh Freeze didn't even include KSU in their top 25 :curse:
Post by: Katpappy on January 12, 2023, 10:13:24 AM
Post by: MadCat on January 12, 2023, 01:49:29 PM
Mora hates KSU. Got into an argument with LHCBS after losing the Holiday bowl because he was upset that the score was run up. He was a head of crap in the NFL too.
It was the 2015 Alamo Bowl. I think he was upset because his UCLA team was in a victory formation and our guys were trying to still get a turnover.
Post by: nicname on January 12, 2023, 05:13:12 PM
6 TCU
8 KSU
18 Texas
23 Tech
38 Cincy
43 UCF
44 OU
50 Baylor
52 OSU
56 BYU
57 Hou
58 KU
59 Mizzou
63 ATM
66 WVU
67 ISU
86 Nubb
119 Colorado
Tulane is 17
Post by: KCFDcat on August 07, 2023, 11:32:35 AM
Too lazy to look it up but I wonder when the last time we were ranked preseason. 2015?
Post by: PurpleOil on August 07, 2023, 12:08:40 PM
1 Georgia
2 Michigan
3 Alabama
4 Ohio State
5 LSU
6 USC
7 Penn State
8 Florida State
9 Clemson
10 Tennessee
11 Washington
12 Texas
13 Notre Dame
14 Utah
15 Oregon
16 TCU
17 Kansas State
18 Oregon State
19 Oklahoma
20 North Carolina
21 Wisconsin
22 Mississippi
23 Tulane
24 Texas Tech
25 Texas A&M
It's going to be an interesting season!
Post by: KCFDcat on August 07, 2023, 12:15:39 PM
Cats #17 in coaches poll.
Too lazy to look it up but I wonder when the last time we were ranked preseason. 2015?
Ok I looked it up. These are AP polls, but I'm assuming we'll be around 17th in AP as well.
2017 preseason #20 Finished NR
2014 preseason #20 Finished #18
2012 preseason #22 Finished #12
2004 preseason #13 Finished NR
2003 preseason #7 Finished #14
Post by: cfbandyman on August 07, 2023, 02:44:07 PM
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on August 08, 2023, 11:53:53 AM
Here's your complete list
1 Georgia
2 Michigan
3 Alabama
4 Ohio State
5 LSU
6 USC
7 Penn State
8 Florida State
9 Clemson
10 Tennessee
11 Washington
12 Texas
13 Notre Dame
14 Utah
15 Oregon
16 TCU
17 Kansas State
18 Oregon State
19 Oklahoma
20 North Carolina
21 Wisconsin
22 Mississippi
23 Tulane
24 Texas Tech
25 Texas A&M
It's going to be an interesting season!
I hope Oregon State whoops ass this year. Wins every game except the national championship.
Post by: cfbandyman on August 14, 2023, 12:01:56 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 16, 2023, 05:39:41 AM
https://twitter.com/glenn_kinley/status/1691235626870358017
Post by: star seed 7 on August 16, 2023, 05:40:31 AM
https://247sports.com/college/kansas/board/103723/Contents/ap-top-25-214258724/?page=1
Post by: Winters on August 16, 2023, 08:17:37 AM
This thread lol
https://247sports.com/college/kansas/board/103723/Contents/ap-top-25-214258724/?page=1
Quote
(SEMO is top 15 and goes to Manhattan, upset alert!):cop lights: :cop lights: :cop lights: :cop lights: :cop lights:
Post by: Spaces on August 16, 2023, 10:01:37 AM
Post by: Spracne on August 16, 2023, 11:49:23 AM
Post by: Katpappy on August 16, 2023, 02:15:25 PM
Post by: Katpappy on August 16, 2023, 02:47:33 PM
.https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/1691632494431355348?s=20
Post by: bshea85 on September 05, 2023, 01:07:47 PM
1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. Alabama
4. Florida State
5. Ohio State
6. USC
7. Penn State
8. Washington
9. Tennessee
10. Notre Dame
11. Texas
12. Utah
13. Oregon
14. LSU
15. Kansas State
16. Oregon State
17. North Carolina
18. Oklahoma
19. Wisconsin
20. Ole Miss
21. Duke
22. Colorado WTF
23. Texas A&M
24. Tulane
25. Clemson LOL
OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES:
Iowa 73, UCLA 55, Arkansas 28, TCU 27, Kentucky 15, Pittsburgh 8, Mississippi St. 5, Miami 4, NC State 4, Auburn 3, Troy 3, Fresno St. 3, Minnesota 3, Wyoming 3, Iowa St. 2, Texas St. 2, Texas Tech 1, Louisville 1, Washington St. 1, Illinois 1, Houston 1, UCF 1, James Madison 1.
Post by: cfbandyman on September 05, 2023, 01:20:59 PM
Just keeping winning and we'll move up 1-2 spots a week. At least I'm assuming there will be enough upsets in front of us and not a lot of leap frogging.
Post by: bshea85 on September 05, 2023, 02:15:49 PM
1. Georgia (63)
2. Michigan (1)
3. Alabama (2)
4. Ohio State
5. Florida State
6. USC
7. Penn State
8. Washington
9. Tennessee
10. Texas
11. Notre Dame
12. Utah
13. Oregon
14. LSU
15. Kansas State
16. North Carolina
17. Oklahoma
18. Oregon State
19. Wisconsin
20. Ole Miss
21. Clemson LOL
22. Tulane
23. Texas A&M
24. Duke
25. Colorado LOL
Others receiving votes: Iowa 111, Pittsburgh 53, Kentucky 50, UCLA 44, Texas Christian 40, Fresno State 30, Miami 22, Auburn 22, Arkansas 18, Maryland 14, Missouri 13, Troy 11, Oklahoma State 11, NC State 10, Illinois 9, Wyoming 8, Washington State 7, Wake Forest 7, Air Force 7, Minnesota 6, Mississippi State 5, South Carolina 4, Kansas 4, Texas Tech 3, Southern Methodist 3, Central Florida 3, Houston 2, Texas-San Antonio 1, Michigan State 1, Memphis 1, Louisville 1, James Madison 1, Arizona 1
Post by: pissclams on September 05, 2023, 02:30:54 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 05, 2023, 02:34:46 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 05, 2023, 02:44:23 PM
Post by: catastrophe on September 05, 2023, 02:48:11 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on September 05, 2023, 03:07:24 PM
I have no issues with Colorado being ranked. Rankings at this stage of the season should be able to change dramatically week to week. They beat a P5 team on the road if nothing else. Not many others can say that.
For sure, and really IMO rankings to me are seen as given, not earned until about week 4/5. After about a third of the season is done it starts to be less speculation and more reality. So RN that's fair for them.
Post by: Kid In the Hall on September 05, 2023, 04:29:06 PM
Good lord...
Post by: MakeItRain on September 05, 2023, 05:29:51 PM
Who are the dipshits in the AP poll voting for Iowa State?
Good lord...
I saw that too, I'm bout to find out
Post by: Winters on September 05, 2023, 05:31:44 PM
plz out themWho are the dipshits in the AP poll voting for Iowa State?
Good lord...
I saw that too, I'm bout to find out
Post by: MakeItRain on September 05, 2023, 05:32:22 PM
I have no issues with Colorado being ranked. Rankings at this stage of the season should be able to change dramatically week to week. They beat a P5 team on the road if nothing else. Not many others can say that.
Of course they should be ranked anyone who thinks otherwise is simply hating. They beat a top 25, P5 team, on the road in week one. They easily had the best win of the week.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 05, 2023, 05:37:18 PM
plz out themWho are the dipshits in the AP poll voting for Iowa State?
Good lord...
I saw that too, I'm bout to find out
It was John Pierson, a sportscaster from Connecticut. He 100% meant to vote for Iowa instead. I did tweet him to ask.
Post by: michigancat on September 05, 2023, 05:38:07 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 05, 2023, 05:45:59 PM
Post by: Katpappy on September 05, 2023, 08:01:21 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 05, 2023, 08:07:49 PM
plz out themWho are the dipshits in the AP poll voting for Iowa State?
Good lord...
I saw that too, I'm bout to find out
It was John Pierson, a sportscaster from Connecticut. He 100% meant to vote for Iowa instead. I did tweet him to ask.
My oopsie, it was actually a writer from Charleston, WV.
https://twitter.com/JPPierson/status/1699196016304550387
Check that dudes mentions, @chuckonsports, Iowa State fans are acting exactly like KU fans did when that woman made the mistake in the preseason poll. It looks like ol Chuck doesn't actually read twitter, someone is just putting his columns on his twitter page.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 05, 2023, 08:10:37 PM
I wouldn't be so sure about that; Duke was a nine-win team last season and TCU scored a bunch of points so no domination. I would agree with Michcat, the AP should wait until the fourth game to rank. Teams don't really show their plays until the fourth game, which at this point is a conference game.
Duke being good has nothing to do with Clemson being overrated. Duke didn't force Clemson to start a QB1 who can't throw the ball beyond 10 yards down field.
Post by: cfbandyman on September 05, 2023, 10:55:11 PM
I wouldn't be so sure about that; Duke was a nine-win team last season and TCU scored a bunch of points so no domination. I would agree with Michcat, the AP should wait until the fourth game to rank. Teams don't really show their plays until the fourth game, which at this point is a conference game.
Ahem
Post by: cfbandyman on September 05, 2023, 10:56:42 PM
plz out themWho are the dipshits in the AP poll voting for Iowa State?
Good lord...
I saw that too, I'm bout to find out
It was John Pierson, a sportscaster from Connecticut. He 100% meant to vote for Iowa instead. I did tweet him to ask.
My oopsie, it was actually a writer from Charleston, WV.
https://twitter.com/JPPierson/status/1699196016304550387
Check that dudes mentions, @chuckonsports, Iowa State fans are acting exactly like KU fans did when that woman made the mistake in the preseason poll. It looks like ol Chuck doesn't actually read twitter, someone is just putting his columns on his twitter page.
A writer who is closest to the average lol.
I do like the Pierson guy didn't have either Iowa teams on his.
Post by: OK_Cat on September 06, 2023, 09:19:12 AM
My ongoing take is that there shouldn't be any rankings before October at the earliest. TCU could very well be 1-3 by then. Hell they could also be 3-1!
You're 100% correct. Preseason rankings are stupid. Rankings in general are stupid, but I doubt they'll ever come up with a great post-season system that doesn't allow for journalist's input.
Post by: pissclams on September 06, 2023, 10:26:15 AM
Post by: nicname on September 06, 2023, 10:51:45 AM
My ongoing take is that there shouldn't be any rankings before October at the earliest. TCU could very well be 1-3 by then. Hell they could also be 3-1!
You're 100% correct. Preseason rankings are stupid. Rankings in general are stupid, but I doubt they'll ever come up with a great post-season system that doesn't allow for journalist's input.
I think rankings enhance the sport regardless of if they’re antiquated or are beneficial to deciding a national champion or whatever.
They aren’t perfect, but help the layman understand which games are bigger, how non-regional teams stack up with each other, and provide sense of pride/positivity to teams, schools and fans. It’s cool when your team is ranked and then gets talked about nationally and has their highlights on national shows and stuff.
They give people something to talk about and debate and argue.
Who cares how accurate preseason ranking are? It doesn’t really matter. They also typically sort themselves out in the end anyway.
I have a hard time imagining how college sports would be better without rankings.
Post by: OK_Cat on September 06, 2023, 11:02:59 AM
My ongoing take is that there shouldn't be any rankings before October at the earliest. TCU could very well be 1-3 by then. Hell they could also be 3-1!
You're 100% correct. Preseason rankings are stupid. Rankings in general are stupid, but I doubt they'll ever come up with a great post-season system that doesn't allow for journalist's input.
I think rankings enhance the sport regardless of if they’re antiquated or are beneficial to deciding a national champion or whatever.
They aren’t perfect, but help the layman understand which games are bigger, how non-regional teams stack up with each other, and provide sense of pride/positivity to teams, schools and fans. It’s cool when your team is ranked and then gets talked about nationally and has their highlights on national shows and stuff.
They give people something to talk about and debate and argue.
Who cares how accurate preseason ranking are? It doesn’t really matter. They also typically sort themselves out in the end anyway.
I have a hard time imagining how college sports would be better without rankings.
That would be ok if the rankings were made by unbiased voters, but they're not.
Post by: michigancat on September 06, 2023, 11:16:30 AM
Who cares how accurate preseason ranking are? It doesn’t really matter. They also typically sort themselves out in the end anyway.
Preseason rankings totally influence end of year rankings. Eliminating preseason and starting rankings after a number of games have been played means rankings can be made solely off of actual results and not where someone started in the preseason poll. I think they would change quite a bit!
Post by: OK_Cat on September 06, 2023, 11:43:19 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 06, 2023, 11:53:57 AM
Post by: mocat on September 06, 2023, 12:08:28 PM
Post by: nicname on September 06, 2023, 12:12:34 PM
for example, people wouldn't be losing their crap over Colorado beating TCU, because TCU is obviously not a top 25 team.
https://youtu.be/mJ58TVYNFro?si=Udl2bCLCFQcIvLgk
Post by: star seed 7 on September 06, 2023, 12:26:20 PM
Yeah college football should get rid of rankings. Baseball should get rid of the home run also
Yes! Homeruns are the most boring points in sports.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 06, 2023, 12:27:47 PM
Post by: CNS on September 06, 2023, 12:28:45 PM
It's a circle of numbskulls sniffing their own farts and fighting tooth and nail to guide the national conversation so that they can be "right".
Most AP writers don't watch most games. I would bet that no coaches watch more than their game and the one or two upcoming opponents. The former is trying to increase the rank of the team that will get them the most clicks and the later has huge incentive to make their opponents as high ranked as possible.
Post by: Houstoncat93 on September 06, 2023, 12:34:07 PM
On what basis is Tcu "obviously" not a top 25 team? No one has any idea, that's the point.
On the basis that we watched the game.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 06, 2023, 12:37:26 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on September 06, 2023, 12:41:05 PM
On what basis is Tcu "obviously" not a top 25 team? No one has any idea, that's the point.
I have 2 eyeballs that work most of the time.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 06, 2023, 01:23:19 PM
I'm pretty sure there is a blog post in the royals thread about how I think homeruns should actually be an out.
There are a lot of dumb posts in that thread for sure.
Post by: nicname on September 06, 2023, 01:25:04 PM
2021 Dec 5 (thru ccg week) unbiased Colley Matrix.
Next post will be the concurrent AP poll.
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Post by: nicname on September 06, 2023, 01:26:20 PM
Dec 5, 2021 AP poll. Can only fit 1-21 in screenshot
Without looking yet, I’m asking how egregious does this seem to you?
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 06, 2023, 01:35:32 PM
Post by: nicname on September 06, 2023, 01:52:38 PM
What does that have to do with preseason rankings?
I thought part of the gripe about preseason ranking is they make it harder for good teams to be accurately ranked at season’s end. The images I posted imo show that, at least in 2021, that really wasn’t the case.
If the gripe is that the wrong teams simply get too much attention early in the season, then I guess that may be so, but who really cares.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 06, 2023, 02:24:13 PM
Idk man....Hitting a dinger feels pretty great plus chicks dig the long ballYeah college football should get rid of rankings. Baseball should get rid of the home run also
Yes! Homeruns are the most boring points in sports.
Post by: OB_Won on September 06, 2023, 02:34:12 PM
They’re 1-3 in their last 4 games.On what basis is Tcu "obviously" not a top 25 team? No one has any idea, that's the point.
I have 2 eyeballs that work most of the time.
Post by: cfbandyman on September 06, 2023, 02:34:36 PM
Idk man....Hitting a dinger feels pretty great plus chicks dig the long ballYeah college football should get rid of rankings. Baseball should get rid of the home run also
Yes! Homeruns are the most boring points in sports.
Concur
Post by: michigancat on September 06, 2023, 02:55:21 PM
What does that have to do with preseason rankings?
I thought part of the gripe about preseason ranking is they make it harder for good teams to be accurately ranked at season’s end. The images I posted imo show that, at least in 2021, that really wasn’t the case.
If the gripe is that the wrong teams simply get too much attention early in the season, then I guess that may be so, but who really cares.
I wonder if UCF cares?
Post by: nicname on September 06, 2023, 03:49:11 PM
What does that have to do with preseason rankings?
I thought part of the gripe about preseason ranking is they make it harder for good teams to be accurately ranked at season’s end. The images I posted imo show that, at least in 2021, that really wasn’t the case.
If the gripe is that the wrong teams simply get too much attention early in the season, then I guess that may be so, but who really cares.
I wonder if UCF cares?
They definitely should have been in the playoff, but was that due to their preseason ranking or their body of work? Do the polls even come into the equation for the selection committee?
Colley had UCF at 3 heading into the playoff I believe.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 06, 2023, 05:00:08 PM
What does that have to do with preseason rankings?
I thought part of the gripe about preseason ranking is they make it harder for good teams to be accurately ranked at season’s end. The images I posted imo show that, at least in 2021, that really wasn’t the case.
If the gripe is that the wrong teams simply get too much attention early in the season, then I guess that may be so, but who really cares.
I wonder if UCF cares?
The rankings that matter don't start until midseason and they didn't care for UCF.
Post by: michigancat on September 06, 2023, 05:03:28 PM
Those rankings are influenced by preseason AP and Coaches rankings too! Even if they aren't supposed to be, they are.What does that have to do with preseason rankings?
I thought part of the gripe about preseason ranking is they make it harder for good teams to be accurately ranked at season’s end. The images I posted imo show that, at least in 2021, that really wasn’t the case.
If the gripe is that the wrong teams simply get too much attention early in the season, then I guess that may be so, but who really cares.
I wonder if UCF cares?
The rankings that matter don't start until midseason and they didn't care for UCF.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 06, 2023, 05:42:05 PM
Those rankings are influenced by preseason AP and Coaches rankings too! Even if they aren't supposed to be, they are.What does that have to do with preseason rankings?
I thought part of the gripe about preseason ranking is they make it harder for good teams to be accurately ranked at season’s end. The images I posted imo show that, at least in 2021, that really wasn’t the case.
If the gripe is that the wrong teams simply get too much attention early in the season, then I guess that may be so, but who really cares.
I wonder if UCF cares?
The rankings that matter don't start until midseason and they didn't care for UCF.
At that point in the season the polls are almost never different than the various computer ratings, particularly at the top..
Post by: michigancat on September 06, 2023, 05:43:13 PM
That's why I mentioned UCF!Those rankings are influenced by preseason AP and Coaches rankings too! Even if they aren't supposed to be, they are.What does that have to do with preseason rankings?
I thought part of the gripe about preseason ranking is they make it harder for good teams to be accurately ranked at season’s end. The images I posted imo show that, at least in 2021, that really wasn’t the case.
If the gripe is that the wrong teams simply get too much attention early in the season, then I guess that may be so, but who really cares.
I wonder if UCF cares?
The rankings that matter don't start until midseason and they didn't care for UCF.
At that point in the season the polls are almost never different than the various computer ratings, particularly at the top..
Post by: MakeItRain on September 06, 2023, 05:51:41 PM
That's why I mentioned UCF!Those rankings are influenced by preseason AP and Coaches rankings too! Even if they aren't supposed to be, they are.What does that have to do with preseason rankings?
I thought part of the gripe about preseason ranking is they make it harder for good teams to be accurately ranked at season’s end. The images I posted imo show that, at least in 2021, that really wasn’t the case.
If the gripe is that the wrong teams simply get too much attention early in the season, then I guess that may be so, but who really cares.
I wonder if UCF cares?
The rankings that matter don't start until midseason and they didn't care for UCF.
At that point in the season the polls are almost never different than the various computer ratings, particularly at the top..
Right but that undercuts your point about the ap and coaches poll having influence with the CFP poll.
Post by: DQ12 on September 07, 2023, 09:12:32 AM
FWIW, I think the polls (ap/coaching/playoff) all matter bigtime because it's more fun if you treat them that way. And I love polls -- especially preseason polls because they're fun!
Post by: catastrophe on September 07, 2023, 09:16:28 AM
Post by: wetwillie on September 07, 2023, 09:32:33 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 07, 2023, 01:06:01 PM
Preseason polls should exist because they're fun. If we want to get all haughty about polls that "matter," the only poll that technically "matters" (outside of soft issues like brand, prestige, etc.), is the final CFP poll before the playoff. The rest of the polls are just fun for fans to goof off with and argue about.
FWIW, I think the polls (ap/coaching/playoff) all matter bigtime because it's more fun if you treat them that way. And I love polls -- especially preseason polls because they're fun!
Agreed. Pollsters just need to be quicker to change their opinions early. You preseason rank a team 12 and they get blown out, drop their ass! Don't just bump them to 21.
Post by: DQ12 on September 07, 2023, 01:13:54 PM
YES!Preseason polls should exist because they're fun. If we want to get all haughty about polls that "matter," the only poll that technically "matters" (outside of soft issues like brand, prestige, etc.), is the final CFP poll before the playoff. The rest of the polls are just fun for fans to goof off with and argue about.
FWIW, I think the polls (ap/coaching/playoff) all matter bigtime because it's more fun if you treat them that way. And I love polls -- especially preseason polls because they're fun!
Agreed. Pollsters just need to be quicker to change their opinions early. You preseason rank a team 12 and they get blown out, drop their ass! Don't just bump them to 21.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 09, 2023, 02:17:43 PM
I wouldn't be so sure about that; Duke was a nine-win team last season and TCU scored a bunch of points so no domination. I would agree with Michcat, the AP should wait until the fourth game to rank. Teams don't really show their plays until the fourth game, which at this point is a conference game.
Duke being good has nothing to do with Clemson being overrated. Duke didn't force Clemson to start a QB1 who can't throw the ball beyond 10 yards down field.
https://twitter.com/nocontextcfb/status/1700581726400250172
https://twitter.com/SickosCommittee/status/1700583801502458165
Post by: star seed 7 on September 09, 2023, 02:19:29 PM
Post by: nicname on September 11, 2023, 06:17:00 AM
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Post by: cfbandyman on September 11, 2023, 09:26:26 AM
Post by: michigancat on September 11, 2023, 09:35:51 AM
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/168/682/c2f.jpg)
Post by: CHONGS on September 11, 2023, 10:49:08 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 11, 2023, 06:29:16 PM
(https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/419/968/11968419.jpeg?width=600&fit=bounds)
Post by: catastrophe on September 11, 2023, 06:35:36 PM
Post by: Spracne on September 11, 2023, 06:37:05 PM
:emawkid:
(https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/419/968/11968419.jpeg?width=600&fit=bounds)
What's your username on the Phog?
Post by: deputy dawg on September 11, 2023, 06:56:22 PM
Buddy of mine played at Charleston southern
Isn't that the school that was going to hire Oscar to coach their men's BB program before K-State snatched him away?
Post by: star seed 7 on September 11, 2023, 06:57:57 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on September 11, 2023, 07:25:19 PM
:emawkid:
(https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/419/968/11968419.jpeg?width=600&fit=bounds)
This confuses me. What am I missing?
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 11, 2023, 09:52:30 PM
I’m gonna State the obvious here but how can you miss it?:emawkid:
(https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/419/968/11968419.jpeg?width=600&fit=bounds)
This confuses me. What am I missing?
Post by: wetwillie on September 11, 2023, 09:57:44 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 11, 2023, 10:45:14 PM
Buddy of mine played at Charleston southern
Isn't that the school that was going to hire Oscar to coach their men's BB program before K-State snatched him away?
College of Charleston
Post by: IPA4Me on September 13, 2023, 05:52:22 AM
:emawkid:
(https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/419/968/11968419.jpeg?width=600&fit=bounds)
This confuses me. What am I missing?
Post by: Stevesie60 on September 15, 2023, 10:59:14 AM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 15, 2023, 02:27:17 PM
Post by: CHONGS on September 17, 2023, 12:33:36 PM
Post by: nicname on September 17, 2023, 12:44:52 PM
:frown:
They knock us out? Lame. Mizzou is a solid team. Borderline top-25 probably. We will get back in. Lots of rummies on our schedule to pile up wins against.
Post by: Stevesie60 on September 17, 2023, 03:20:21 PM
Is K-State still roughly 15th? I say yes. What say you?
Post by: Spracne on September 17, 2023, 03:22:45 PM
Post by: CHONGS on September 17, 2023, 03:41:17 PM
So dumb. As a thought experiment, let's say college football allows ties. And Mizzou fat kicker doinks the FG, game ends in a tie.You should always get punished for losing to a team like Missouri. Them's the breaks.
Is K-State still roughly 15th? I say yes. What say you?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 17, 2023, 03:42:02 PM
Who do you guys play this week?
UCF. We are going to have to play a lot better to win that one.
Post by: Spracne on September 17, 2023, 03:43:28 PM
Who do you guys play this week?
UCF. We are going to have to play a lot better to win that one.
Will be very educational. Finally will see UCF get tested. They've looked really good against a soft schedule.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 17, 2023, 03:44:02 PM
So dumb. As a thought experiment, let's say college football allows ties. And Mizzou fat kicker doinks the FG, game ends in a tie.You should always get punished for losing to a team like Missouri. Them's the breaks.
Is K-State still roughly 15th? I say yes. What say you?
Yup
Post by: Katpappy on September 17, 2023, 07:53:09 PM
So dumb. As a thought experiment, let's say college football allows ties. And Mizzou fat kicker doinks the FG, game ends in a tie.You should always get punished for losing to a team like Missouri. Them's the breaks.
Is K-State still roughly 15th? I say yes. What say you?
Hey, they are 3-0 and were're 2-1, that should tell you who's impressing the SEC.
Yup
Post by: MakeItRain on September 18, 2023, 12:53:35 AM
Post by: CNS on September 18, 2023, 10:36:07 AM
The fact that nothing has been announced and that our drop happened in both AP and Coaches, leads me to believing that would be giving way to much credit to a bunch of folks who didn’t watch the game, or any of our past games.
That returns me to wondering why, given that we are returning conf champs and 2-1. Seems crazy.
Post by: williamthewildcat on September 18, 2023, 11:04:27 AM
Post by: mocat on September 18, 2023, 11:41:06 AM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 18, 2023, 11:43:51 AM
Post by: catastrophe on September 18, 2023, 01:15:10 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 18, 2023, 07:35:33 PM
Sure seems a tad extreme for losing on the road on a 61 yard FG, for sure. My hope is that it’s not related to the injury. But that was my first thought also.
Those voters aren't playing that kind of attention.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 18, 2023, 07:37:00 PM
Not sure what the rest of the top 25 teams look like
we don't look very top 25y to me
:confused:
Post by: star seed 7 on September 18, 2023, 08:24:43 PM
Sure seems a tad extreme for losing on the road on a 61 yard FG, for sure. My hope is that it’s not related to the injury. But that was my first thought also.
Those voters aren't playing that kind of attention.
Yeah, this stuff cracks me up. I bet less than 10 voters looked into the game for anything more than sportscenter highlights. Even less for the lol coaches poll.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 18, 2023, 11:47:27 PM
Post by: CHONGS on September 24, 2023, 01:50:02 PM
Post by: nicname on September 24, 2023, 04:13:02 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on September 24, 2023, 08:47:23 PM
I like Mizzou being ranked. They’re gonna show to be pretty decent this season, and a tough out at home.
I mean the SEC east besides Georgia is pretty tame, they can win 8 game easily
Post by: nicname on September 25, 2023, 12:32:39 PM
https://masseyratings.com/ranks
Doing well among 1-loss teams in the Colley Matrix as well (though still a small sample for this).
https://www.colleyrankings.com/currank.html
Post by: MadCat on October 01, 2023, 02:06:19 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/polls/coaches-poll/2023-2024/2023-10-01/ (https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/polls/coaches-poll/2023-2024/2023-10-01/)
Cats punished for bye week
#27 in both
Post by: KITNfury on October 01, 2023, 03:03:01 PM
Post by: Katpappy on October 01, 2023, 03:37:56 PM
Post by: Spracne on October 01, 2023, 04:20:33 PM
Jesus rough ridin' Christ, we lose one game by a rough ridin' SEC record breaking FG in the last 3 seconds and we're not even ranked. WTF, is going on with these one-sided rankings? I will bet that even if we win the CCG and go 11-1, we won't even be considered for the CFP. :bang:
It could be worse. You could lose for the first time to the #3 team in the country on the road while playing your backup QB on 30-minutes notice and drop out of the polls and below the lowly Wildcats of KSU.
Post by: Katpappy on October 01, 2023, 04:31:41 PM
Jesus rough ridin' Christ, we lose one game by a rough ridin' SEC record breaking FG in the last 3 seconds and we're not even ranked. WTF, is going on with these one-sided rankings? I will bet that even if we win the CCG and go 11-1, we won't even be considered for the CFP. :bang:
It could be worse. You could lose for the first time to the #3 team in the country on the road while playing your backup QB on 30-minutes notice and drop out of the polls and below the lowly Wildcats of KSU.
You do know we have a history of being slighted, but I see your point so join the club, my feathered friend.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on October 01, 2023, 05:07:20 PM
Post by: CHONGS on October 01, 2023, 05:10:21 PM
Jesus rough ridin' Christ, we lose one game by a rough ridin' SEC record breaking FG in the last 3 seconds and we're not even ranked. WTF, is going on with these one-sided rankings? I will bet that even if we win the CCG and go 11-1, we won't even be considered for the CFP. :bang:
It was Missouri. Be happy we're receiving votes.
Post by: cfbandyman on October 01, 2023, 06:01:44 PM
Jesus rough ridin' Christ, we lose one game by a rough ridin' SEC record breaking FG in the last 3 seconds and we're not even ranked. WTF, is going on with these one-sided rankings? I will bet that even if we win the CCG and go 11-1, we won't even be considered for the CFP. :bang:
It could be worse. You could lose for the first time to the #3 team in the country on the road while playing your backup QB on 30-minutes notice and drop out of the polls and below the lowly Wildcats of KSU.
You do know we have a history of being slighted, but I see your point so join the club, my feathered friend.
I mean, if ku is noted for anything, it's being slighted by east coast bias
Post by: catastrophe on October 01, 2023, 07:12:24 PM
They (coaches and writers) just did it to justify the Friday night kick this weekYep. We don’t beat OSU by 40 and we’re dropping further I’m afraid.
Post by: catastrophe on October 01, 2023, 07:15:16 PM
Jesus rough ridin' Christ, we lose one game by a rough ridin' SEC record breaking FG in the last 3 seconds and we're not even ranked. WTF, is going on with these one-sided rankings? I will bet that even if we win the CCG and go 11-1, we won't even be considered for the CFP. :bang:I wouldn’t necessarily give the voters this much credit, but we did also lose (two?) really important players after the Missouri game.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 10, 2023, 03:27:02 PM
:Chirp:Not sure what the rest of the top 25 teams look like
we don't look very top 25y to me
:confused:
Post by: MakeItRain on October 11, 2023, 05:22:30 AM
:Chirp:Not sure what the rest of the top 25 teams look like
we don't look very top 25y to me
:confused:
called your shot! :clap:
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 22, 2023, 01:11:12 PM
EXCLUSIVE CONTENT
College football's post-Week 8 SP+ rankings
Bill Connelly, ESPN Staff Writer
Oct 22, 2023, 11:30 AM ET
Below are this week's SP+ rankings. What is SP+? In a single sentence, it's a tempo- and opponent-adjusted measure of college football efficiency. I created the system at Football Outsiders in 2008, and as my experience with both college football and its stats has grown, I have made quite a few tweaks to the system.
SP+ is indeed intended to be predictive and forward-facing. It is not a résumé ranking that gives credit for big wins or particularly brave scheduling -- no good predictive system is. It is simply a measure of the most sustainable and predictable aspects of football. If you're lucky or unimpressive in a win, your rating will probably fall. If you're strong and unlucky in a loss, it will probably rise.
Here are the full rankings:
Post-Week 8 SP+ Rankings
TEAM RATING OFFENSE DEFENSE SPEC. TEAMS
1. Michigan (8-0) 28.7 39.6 (6) 11.3 (2) 0.4 (6)
2. Georgia (7-0) 24.0 38.4 (7) 14.8 (7) 0.3 (15)
3. Alabama (7-1) 22.8 36.1 (15) 13.6 (4) 0.3 (9)
4. Ohio St. (7-0) 22.1 35.6 (16) 13.7 (5) 0.3 (22)
5. Oregon (6-1) 21.4 42.7 (3) 21.4 (31) 0.1 (57)
6. Texas (6-1) 20.7 37.8 (8) 17.3 (11) 0.3 (27)
7. Washington (7-0) 20.7 40.7 (4) 20.3 (24) 0.3 (16)
8. Notre Dame (6-2) 19.8 34.6 (19) 14.7 (6) 0.0 (78)
9. Oklahoma (7-0) 19.5 40.0 (5) 20.3 (23) -0.2 (95)
10. LSU (6-2) 18.9 43.0 (2) 24.1 (47) 0.0 (80)
11. Florida St. (7-0) 18.5 37.0 (12) 18.8 (17) 0.4 (1)
12. Penn St. (6-1) 18.5 31.4 (31) 13.0 (3) 0.1 (62)
13. USC (6-2) 17.7 43.6 (1) 26.0 (65) 0.1 (48)
14. Kansas St. (5-2) 15.6 37.1 (10) 21.6 (32) 0.1 (43)
15. Oregon St. (6-1) 15.4 37.1 (11) 22.1 (35) 0.3 (11)
16. Tennessee (5-2) 15.3 34.3 (20) 19.1 (19) 0.1 (51)
17. Texas A&M (4-3) 15.2 30.8 (36) 15.3 (8) -0.2 (99)
18. Missouri (7-1) 14.9 35.0 (18) 19.9 (22) -0.1 (92)
19. Clemson (4-3) 14.9 31.2 (32) 16.3 (9) 0.0 (74)
20. UCLA (5-2) 14.2 32.5 (26) 18.0 (14) -0.2 (100)
21. Ole Miss (6-1) 13.8 35.4 (17) 21.9 (34) 0.3 (26)
22. N. Carolina (6-1) 13.4 37.4 (9) 24.1 (46) 0.0 (63)
23. Miami (5-2) 13.4 32.5 (25) 19.5 (21) 0.4 (4)
24. Utah (6-1) 12.5 30.0 (43) 17.5 (12) 0.1 (53)
25. Kentucky (5-2) 11.7 30.0 (42) 18.7 (16) 0.3 (18)
26. Duke (5-2) 11.6 30.5 (40) 19.0 (18) 0.1 (47)
27. Louisville (6-1) 10.7 31.1 (33) 20.4 (26) 0.1 (60)
28. Wisconsin (5-2) 10.5 27.8 (56) 17.7 (13) 0.3 (14)
29. TCU (4-4) 10.2 32.8 (24) 22.4 (36) -0.2 (97)
30. Florida (5-2) 9.2 32.0 (28) 23.1 (42) 0.3 (13)
31. Texas Tech (3-5) 9.0 32.4 (27) 23.6 (43) 0.2 (42)
32. Maryland (5-2) 8.9 29.7 (44) 20.7 (28) -0.1 (86)
33. UCF (3-4) 8.7 33.8 (21) 25.2 (57) 0.0 (66)
34. Arizona (4-3) 8.3 36.3 (14) 28.1 (77) 0.0 (64)
35. Air Force (7-0) 8.2 26.0 (70) 18.1 (15) 0.3 (19)
36. Kansas (5-2) 7.4 36.8 (13) 29.7 (88) 0.3 (10)
37. Iowa (6-2) 7.0 16.9 (121) 10.3 (1) 0.4 (7)
38. Iowa St. (4-3) 6.9 23.3 (85) 16.5 (10) 0.1 (45)
39. Wash. St. (4-3) 6.8 30.6 (37) 24.2 (50) 0.4 (3)
40. Oklahoma St. (5-2) 6.7 31.7 (29) 25.2 (59) 0.2 (38)
41. JMU (7-0) 5.6 28.4 (50) 23.0 (41) 0.3 (23)
42. Tulane (6-1) 4.9 30.6 (39) 25.9 (63) 0.2 (39)
43. Arkansas (2-6) 4.4 28.2 (53) 24.2 (49) 0.4 (2)
44. Auburn (3-4) 4.1 27.7 (59) 23.9 (44) 0.2 (34)
45. Miss. St. (4-3) 4.1 29.4 (45) 25.6 (60) 0.3 (20)
46. SMU (5-2) 4.0 28.7 (48) 24.4 (51) -0.4 (118)
47. Pittsburgh (2-5) 3.6 26.3 (68) 22.5 (37) -0.2 (93)
48. Syracuse (4-3) 3.6 26.4 (67) 22.9 (40) 0.0 (65)
49. Rutgers (6-2) 3.5 24.8 (79) 21.3 (29) 0.0 (76)
50. S. Carolina (2-5) 3.4 33.1 (23) 30.0 (89) 0.2 (28)
51. Liberty (7-0) 3.3 30.3 (41) 26.6 (67) -0.3 (112)
52. Troy (5-2) 3.3 23.6 (83) 20.3 (25) -0.1 (85)
53. S. Alabama (4-3) 3.3 27.8 (58) 24.7 (55) 0.3 (25)
54. NC St. (4-3) 3.2 24.2 (80) 21.3 (30) 0.3 (12)
55. Fresno St. (6-1) 3.2 27.7 (61) 24.6 (54) 0.1 (56)
56. BYU (5-2) 3.1 27.7 (62) 24.8 (56) 0.3 (24)
57. Toledo (7-1) 2.8 28.4 (51) 25.7 (62) 0.1 (50)
58. Houston (3-4) 2.5 33.3 (22) 30.7 (94) -0.1 (89)
59. Minnesota (4-3) 2.4 22.8 (90) 20.6 (27) 0.2 (29)
60. W. Virginia (4-3) 2.3 28.8 (47) 26.7 (68) 0.2 (41)
61. Nebraska (4-3) 2.1 21.6 (94) 19.1 (20) -0.3 (114)
62. Illinois (3-5) 2.0 23.7 (82) 21.7 (33) -0.1 (84)
63. Wake Forest (4-3) 1.6 25.6 (73) 24.1 (48) 0.1 (54)
64. Memphis (5-2) 1.1 31.5 (30) 30.4 (91) 0.1 (61)
65. Cincinnati (2-5) 1.0 24.9 (77) 24.0 (45) 0.0 (69)
66. Va. Tech (3-4) 0.6 23.1 (86) 22.7 (39) 0.2 (36)
67. Boise St. (3-4) 0.0 30.6 (38) 30.7 (93) 0.1 (55)
68. Baylor (3-4) -0.2 27.8 (57) 27.9 (75) 0.0 (75)
69. Michigan St. (2-5) -0.3 22.0 (92) 22.7 (38) 0.3 (17)
70. UTSA (4-3) -0.6 27.7 (60) 28.4 (79) 0.0 (68)
71. Georgia St. (6-1) -0.9 28.5 (49) 29.6 (85) 0.2 (35)
72. California (3-4) -1.0 26.6 (65) 27.1 (72) -0.4 (124)
73. Louisiana (4-3) -1.7 29.3 (46) 31.2 (100) 0.2 (33)
74. Ga. Tech (3-4) -1.8 27.8 (55) 29.4 (84) -0.2 (103)
75. Coastal Caro. (4-3) -2.3 27.0 (64) 29.1 (82) -0.2 (96)
76. Purdue (2-5) -2.3 25.1 (76) 27.0 (71) -0.4 (129)
77. Colorado (4-3) -2.5 30.9 (35) 33.2 (112) -0.2 (98)
78. Wyoming (5-2) -3.8 23.0 (88) 26.8 (69) 0.1 (59)
79. Miami-OH (6-2) -3.8 20.2 (105) 24.4 (52) 0.4 (5)
80. Virginia (2-5) -4.1 21.1 (98) 25.2 (58) 0.0 (67)
81. Marshall (4-3) -4.4 21.6 (95) 25.6 (61) -0.3 (116)
82. UNLV (6-1) -4.4 26.3 (69) 31.0 (98) 0.2 (32)
83. Boston Coll. (4-3) -4.6 25.4 (74) 30.0 (90) 0.0 (70)
84. Ohio (6-2) -4.7 20.2 (106) 24.5 (53) -0.4 (132)
85. Arizona St. (1-6) -5.0 21.4 (97) 26.1 (66) -0.3 (113)
86. San Jose St. (3-5) -5.2 26.5 (66) 31.2 (101) -0.4 (125)
87. Ga. Southern (5-2) -5.5 28.3 (52) 33.8 (115) 0.0 (79)
88. Texas St. (5-2) -5.6 23.8 (81) 29.7 (87) 0.3 (21)
89. WKU (4-3) -5.8 24.9 (78) 31.0 (97) 0.2 (30)
90. App. St. (3-4) -6.0 28.0 (54) 34.2 (118) 0.1 (44)
91. Vanderbilt (2-6) -6.2 27.4 (63) 33.6 (113) 0.1 (52)
92. NMSU (5-3) -6.6 25.8 (72) 32.4 (107) 0.0 (72)
93. Northwestern (3-4) -7.6 18.1 (117) 25.9 (64) 0.1 (49)
94. JSU (6-2) -7.8 20.3 (104) 28.0 (76) -0.1 (83)
95. Indiana (2-5) -8.7 20.9 (99) 29.7 (86) 0.1 (58)
96. Rice (4-3) -8.9 25.9 (71) 34.4 (121) -0.4 (121)
97. N. Texas (3-4) -9.2 30.9 (34) 40.3 (133) 0.2 (31)
98. Utah St. (3-5) -9.3 25.3 (75) 34.5 (122) -0.1 (82)
99. ODU (4-3) -9.3 18.4 (115) 27.3 (74) -0.3 (115)
100. FAU (3-4) -9.5 19.2 (109) 28.6 (80) -0.2 (94)
101. Stanford (2-5) -9.7 21.8 (93) 31.7 (102) 0.2 (37)
102. NIU (4-4) -9.8 19.6 (107) 29.1 (83) -0.2 (104)
103. Tulsa (3-4) -10.5 22.1 (91) 32.8 (110) 0.2 (40)
104. Navy (3-4) -11.3 17.1 (120) 28.1 (78) -0.3 (110)
105. Colorado St. (3-4) -11.6 20.9 (100) 32.5 (108) 0.1 (46)
106. San Diego St. (3-5) -11.7 19.1 (110) 30.7 (95) -0.1 (91)
107. Army (2-5) -12.4 18.2 (116) 30.5 (92) -0.1 (90)
108. La. Tech (3-5) -12.6 22.9 (89) 35.5 (126) 0.0 (81)
109. UAB (2-6) -12.9 23.0 (87) 35.5 (127) -0.4 (133)
110. MTSU (2-6) -13.0 20.4 (103) 33.0 (111) -0.3 (111)
111. Buffalo (3-5) -13.3 19.4 (108) 32.6 (109) -0.1 (87)
112. New Mexico (3-4) -13.4 23.4 (84) 36.4 (129) -0.3 (108)
113. Arkansas St. (3-4) -14.0 20.4 (101) 34.2 (119) -0.2 (102)
114. ECU (1-6) -14.1 13.4 (128) 27.1 (73) -0.4 (117)
115. BGSU (4-4) -14.2 18.5 (112) 32.4 (106) -0.4 (120)
116. USF (4-4) -15.1 21.5 (96) 36.5 (130) -0.1 (88)
117. EMU (4-4) -15.2 13.3 (129) 28.9 (81) 0.4 (8)
118. ULM (2-5) -15.6 18.7 (111) 34.1 (117) -0.2 (101)
119. So. Miss (1-6) -15.8 18.5 (113) 34.2 (120) 0.0 (73)
120. Hawaii (2-6) -16.6 20.4 (102) 37.0 (131) 0.0 (71)
121. SHSU (0-7) -16.6 10.6 (132) 26.8 (70) -0.4 (122)
122. UTEP (2-6) -16.8 15.7 (125) 32.2 (105) -0.4 (119)
123. FIU (4-4) -17.6 17.4 (118) 34.7 (124) -0.3 (107)
124. Charlotte (2-5) -18.0 13.2 (130) 30.8 (96) -0.4 (128)
125. UConn (1-6) -18.1 16.0 (123) 33.7 (114) -0.4 (130)
126. Ball St. (2-6) -18.3 14.0 (127) 32.1 (104) -0.2 (105)
127. WMU (2-6) -18.3 17.4 (119) 35.3 (125) -0.4 (126)
128. CMU (4-4) -18.7 15.4 (126) 33.9 (116) -0.3 (109)
129. Nevada (1-6) -18.9 15.9 (124) 34.6 (123) -0.3 (106)
130. Temple (2-6) -19.8 16.2 (122) 35.6 (128) -0.4 (123)
131. Akron (1-7) -21.0 11.4 (131) 32.0 (103) -0.4 (131)
132. UMass (1-7) -21.8 18.4 (114) 39.8 (132) -0.4 (127)
133. Kent St. (1-7) -25.1 6.0 (133) 31.1 (99) 0.0 (77)
This week's movers
Let's take a look at the teams that saw the biggest change in their overall ratings. (Note: We're looking at ratings, not rankings.)
MOVING UP
Here are the 10 teams that saw their ratings rise the most this week:
LSU: up 3.9 adjusted points per game (from 18th to 10th)
Michigan: up 3.6 (remains first)
New Mexico: up 3.4 (123rd to 112th)
Rice: up 3.2 (107th to 96th)
Missouri: up +3.0 (26th to 18th)
Boston College: up 2.9 (93rd to 83rd)
Alabama: up 2.8 (ninth to third)
Sam Houston: up 2.7 (127th to 121st)
Charlotte: up 2.4 (130th to 124th)
SMU: up 2.2 (60th to 46th)
With conference adjustments continuing to take on heavier weight each week, that benefited teams from the SEC and Pac-12 at the slight expense of the Big Ten and ACC. That Michigan still rose as many points as it did tells you quite a bit about how dominant the Wolverines continue to be, but the most interesting name here is Alabama's. SP+ was impressed by the Tide's tidy win over Tennessee; they held the edge in the efficiency and explosiveness categories and created more scoring opportunities and won by more than projected (34-20) despite an early 13-0 hole and some bad turnover luck.
Because the teams in the No. 3-11 range were so tightly clustered last week -- and because quite a few of those teams struggled in Week 8 -- their 2.8-point improvement was enough to vault them eight spots.
MOVING DOWN
Here are the 10 teams whose ratings fell the most:
Temple: down 4.0 adjusted points per game (121st to 130th)
Utah State: down 3.5 (85th to 98th)
Hawai'i: down 3.5 (109th to 120th)
Michigan State: down 3.4 (55th to 69th)
South Carolina: down 3.3 (39th to 50th)
Tulsa: down 3.0 (94th to 103rd)
Kent State: down 2.7 (132nd to 133rd)
FAU: down 2.7 (91st to 100th)
Washington: down 2.5 (fourth to seventh)
Duke: down 2.5 (22nd to 26th)
Scoring nine offensive points against an Arizona State team that allowed 21 to Southern Utah is not the best way to maintain a top-five ranking, Washington.
Conference rankings
Here are the FBS' 10 conferences, ranked by average SP+:
1. SEC: 11.1 average adjusted points per team (32.9 offense, 22.0 defense)
2. Pac-12: 8.2 average (32.9 offense, 24.6 defense)
3. Big 12: 8.1 average (32.0 offense, 24.0 defense)
4. Big Ten: 6.2 average (25.7 offense, 19.6 defense)
5. ACC: 6.1 average (28.5 offense, 22.6 defense)
6. Sun Belt: -4.9 average (24.5 offense, 29.4 defense)
7. Mountain West: -6.9 average (23.7 offense, 30.7 defense)
8. AAC: -8.6 average (22.9 offense, 31.3 defense)
9. Conference USA: -10.4 average (20.9 offense, 31.1 defense)
10. MAC: -13.3 average (17.0 offense, 30.2 defense)
The SEC continues to lead the way here, not because of a high volume of contenders -- its three top-15 teams are merely equal to the Big 12 and Big Ten and behind the Pac-12's four -- but because of a low volume of dead weight. Only one SEC team ranks outside the top 50, compared to the Pac-12's four, the Big 12's five and the Big Ten's seven.
Résumé SP+
Since the College Football Playoff rankings are on the horizon, I'm also including résumé SP+ rankings in this piece each week.
As mentioned above, SP+ is intended to be a power rating, not a résumé evaluation tool, but résumé SP+ attempts to fill that latter gap. It is a look at two things: (1) how the average SP+ top-five team would be projected to perform against your schedule (in terms of scoring margin), and (2) how your scoring margin compares to (1). Throw in a seven-point penalty for every loss a team has suffered, and you can say that this is what the CFP rankings would look like if SP+ were in charge.
(Note: Because of the high bar teams have to clear in getting compared to an average top-five team, and because of the loss adjustment, most of these teams end up with a negative score. It is what it is.)
Here is this week's résumé SP+ top 15:
1. Michigan (8-0), +7.5 PPG
2. Ohio State (7-0), +4.3
3. Florida State (7-0), +3.7
4. Oklahoma (7-0), +3.2
5. Washington (7-0), +0.2
6. Georgia (7-0), -0.4
7. Penn State (6-1), -2.2
8. Oregon (6-1), -4.4
9. Texas (6-1), -7.2
10. Ole Miss (6-1), -9.7
11. Oregon State (6-1), -9.9
12. Alabama (7-1), -10.5
13. Kansas State (5-2), -11.8
14. Utah (6-1), -13.8
15. Air Force (7-0), -14.0
Other unbeatens:
17. James Madison (7-0), -16.2
22. Liberty (7-0), -19.2
Another competitive loss to Ohio State -- an annual tradition -- leaves Penn State as your highest-ranked one-loss team, ahead of Oregon and a Texas team that struggled to put away Houston. But the top name on the list shouldn't be a surprise. I always like to say it's how you play, not who you play, and while Michigan hasn't played any interesting "whos," the how is unquestionable at this point: The Wolverines are really, really good, illegal scouting methods or no illegal scouting methods.
Post by: nicname on October 22, 2023, 03:41:12 PM
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College football's post-Week 8 SP+ rankings
Bill Connelly, ESPN Staff Writer
Oct 22, 2023, 11:30 AM ET
Below are this week's SP+ rankings. What is SP+? In a single sentence, it's a tempo- and opponent-adjusted measure of college football efficiency. I created the system at Football Outsiders in 2008, and as my experience with both college football and its stats has grown, I have made quite a few tweaks to the system.
SP+ is indeed intended to be predictive and forward-facing. It is not a résumé ranking that gives credit for big wins or particularly brave scheduling -- no good predictive system is. It is simply a measure of the most sustainable and predictable aspects of football. If you're lucky or unimpressive in a win, your rating will probably fall. If you're strong and unlucky in a loss, it will probably rise.
Here are the full rankings:
Post-Week 8 SP+ Rankings
TEAM RATING OFFENSE DEFENSE SPEC. TEAMS
1. Michigan (8-0) 28.7 39.6 (6) 11.3 (2) 0.4 (6)
2. Georgia (7-0) 24.0 38.4 (7) 14.8 (7) 0.3 (15)
3. Alabama (7-1) 22.8 36.1 (15) 13.6 (4) 0.3 (9)
4. Ohio St. (7-0) 22.1 35.6 (16) 13.7 (5) 0.3 (22)
5. Oregon (6-1) 21.4 42.7 (3) 21.4 (31) 0.1 (57)
6. Texas (6-1) 20.7 37.8 (8) 17.3 (11) 0.3 (27)
7. Washington (7-0) 20.7 40.7 (4) 20.3 (24) 0.3 (16)
8. Notre Dame (6-2) 19.8 34.6 (19) 14.7 (6) 0.0 (78)
9. Oklahoma (7-0) 19.5 40.0 (5) 20.3 (23) -0.2 (95)
10. LSU (6-2) 18.9 43.0 (2) 24.1 (47) 0.0 (80)
11. Florida St. (7-0) 18.5 37.0 (12) 18.8 (17) 0.4 (1)
12. Penn St. (6-1) 18.5 31.4 (31) 13.0 (3) 0.1 (62)
13. USC (6-2) 17.7 43.6 (1) 26.0 (65) 0.1 (48)
14. Kansas St. (5-2) 15.6 37.1 (10) 21.6 (32) 0.1 (43)
15. Oregon St. (6-1) 15.4 37.1 (11) 22.1 (35) 0.3 (11)
16. Tennessee (5-2) 15.3 34.3 (20) 19.1 (19) 0.1 (51)
17. Texas A&M (4-3) 15.2 30.8 (36) 15.3 (8) -0.2 (99)
18. Missouri (7-1) 14.9 35.0 (18) 19.9 (22) -0.1 (92)
19. Clemson (4-3) 14.9 31.2 (32) 16.3 (9) 0.0 (74)
20. UCLA (5-2) 14.2 32.5 (26) 18.0 (14) -0.2 (100)
21. Ole Miss (6-1) 13.8 35.4 (17) 21.9 (34) 0.3 (26)
22. N. Carolina (6-1) 13.4 37.4 (9) 24.1 (46) 0.0 (63)
23. Miami (5-2) 13.4 32.5 (25) 19.5 (21) 0.4 (4)
24. Utah (6-1) 12.5 30.0 (43) 17.5 (12) 0.1 (53)
25. Kentucky (5-2) 11.7 30.0 (42) 18.7 (16) 0.3 (18)
26. Duke (5-2) 11.6 30.5 (40) 19.0 (18) 0.1 (47)
27. Louisville (6-1) 10.7 31.1 (33) 20.4 (26) 0.1 (60)
28. Wisconsin (5-2) 10.5 27.8 (56) 17.7 (13) 0.3 (14)
29. TCU (4-4) 10.2 32.8 (24) 22.4 (36) -0.2 (97)
30. Florida (5-2) 9.2 32.0 (28) 23.1 (42) 0.3 (13)
31. Texas Tech (3-5) 9.0 32.4 (27) 23.6 (43) 0.2 (42)
32. Maryland (5-2) 8.9 29.7 (44) 20.7 (28) -0.1 (86)
33. UCF (3-4) 8.7 33.8 (21) 25.2 (57) 0.0 (66)
34. Arizona (4-3) 8.3 36.3 (14) 28.1 (77) 0.0 (64)
35. Air Force (7-0) 8.2 26.0 (70) 18.1 (15) 0.3 (19)
36. Kansas (5-2) 7.4 36.8 (13) 29.7 (88) 0.3 (10)
37. Iowa (6-2) 7.0 16.9 (121) 10.3 (1) 0.4 (7)
38. Iowa St. (4-3) 6.9 23.3 (85) 16.5 (10) 0.1 (45)
39. Wash. St. (4-3) 6.8 30.6 (37) 24.2 (50) 0.4 (3)
40. Oklahoma St. (5-2) 6.7 31.7 (29) 25.2 (59) 0.2 (38)
41. JMU (7-0) 5.6 28.4 (50) 23.0 (41) 0.3 (23)
42. Tulane (6-1) 4.9 30.6 (39) 25.9 (63) 0.2 (39)
43. Arkansas (2-6) 4.4 28.2 (53) 24.2 (49) 0.4 (2)
44. Auburn (3-4) 4.1 27.7 (59) 23.9 (44) 0.2 (34)
45. Miss. St. (4-3) 4.1 29.4 (45) 25.6 (60) 0.3 (20)
46. SMU (5-2) 4.0 28.7 (48) 24.4 (51) -0.4 (118)
47. Pittsburgh (2-5) 3.6 26.3 (68) 22.5 (37) -0.2 (93)
48. Syracuse (4-3) 3.6 26.4 (67) 22.9 (40) 0.0 (65)
49. Rutgers (6-2) 3.5 24.8 (79) 21.3 (29) 0.0 (76)
50. S. Carolina (2-5) 3.4 33.1 (23) 30.0 (89) 0.2 (28)
51. Liberty (7-0) 3.3 30.3 (41) 26.6 (67) -0.3 (112)
52. Troy (5-2) 3.3 23.6 (83) 20.3 (25) -0.1 (85)
53. S. Alabama (4-3) 3.3 27.8 (58) 24.7 (55) 0.3 (25)
54. NC St. (4-3) 3.2 24.2 (80) 21.3 (30) 0.3 (12)
55. Fresno St. (6-1) 3.2 27.7 (61) 24.6 (54) 0.1 (56)
56. BYU (5-2) 3.1 27.7 (62) 24.8 (56) 0.3 (24)
57. Toledo (7-1) 2.8 28.4 (51) 25.7 (62) 0.1 (50)
58. Houston (3-4) 2.5 33.3 (22) 30.7 (94) -0.1 (89)
59. Minnesota (4-3) 2.4 22.8 (90) 20.6 (27) 0.2 (29)
60. W. Virginia (4-3) 2.3 28.8 (47) 26.7 (68) 0.2 (41)
61. Nebraska (4-3) 2.1 21.6 (94) 19.1 (20) -0.3 (114)
62. Illinois (3-5) 2.0 23.7 (82) 21.7 (33) -0.1 (84)
63. Wake Forest (4-3) 1.6 25.6 (73) 24.1 (48) 0.1 (54)
64. Memphis (5-2) 1.1 31.5 (30) 30.4 (91) 0.1 (61)
65. Cincinnati (2-5) 1.0 24.9 (77) 24.0 (45) 0.0 (69)
66. Va. Tech (3-4) 0.6 23.1 (86) 22.7 (39) 0.2 (36)
67. Boise St. (3-4) 0.0 30.6 (38) 30.7 (93) 0.1 (55)
68. Baylor (3-4) -0.2 27.8 (57) 27.9 (75) 0.0 (75)
69. Michigan St. (2-5) -0.3 22.0 (92) 22.7 (38) 0.3 (17)
70. UTSA (4-3) -0.6 27.7 (60) 28.4 (79) 0.0 (68)
71. Georgia St. (6-1) -0.9 28.5 (49) 29.6 (85) 0.2 (35)
72. California (3-4) -1.0 26.6 (65) 27.1 (72) -0.4 (124)
73. Louisiana (4-3) -1.7 29.3 (46) 31.2 (100) 0.2 (33)
74. Ga. Tech (3-4) -1.8 27.8 (55) 29.4 (84) -0.2 (103)
75. Coastal Caro. (4-3) -2.3 27.0 (64) 29.1 (82) -0.2 (96)
76. Purdue (2-5) -2.3 25.1 (76) 27.0 (71) -0.4 (129)
77. Colorado (4-3) -2.5 30.9 (35) 33.2 (112) -0.2 (98)
78. Wyoming (5-2) -3.8 23.0 (88) 26.8 (69) 0.1 (59)
79. Miami-OH (6-2) -3.8 20.2 (105) 24.4 (52) 0.4 (5)
80. Virginia (2-5) -4.1 21.1 (98) 25.2 (58) 0.0 (67)
81. Marshall (4-3) -4.4 21.6 (95) 25.6 (61) -0.3 (116)
82. UNLV (6-1) -4.4 26.3 (69) 31.0 (98) 0.2 (32)
83. Boston Coll. (4-3) -4.6 25.4 (74) 30.0 (90) 0.0 (70)
84. Ohio (6-2) -4.7 20.2 (106) 24.5 (53) -0.4 (132)
85. Arizona St. (1-6) -5.0 21.4 (97) 26.1 (66) -0.3 (113)
86. San Jose St. (3-5) -5.2 26.5 (66) 31.2 (101) -0.4 (125)
87. Ga. Southern (5-2) -5.5 28.3 (52) 33.8 (115) 0.0 (79)
88. Texas St. (5-2) -5.6 23.8 (81) 29.7 (87) 0.3 (21)
89. WKU (4-3) -5.8 24.9 (78) 31.0 (97) 0.2 (30)
90. App. St. (3-4) -6.0 28.0 (54) 34.2 (118) 0.1 (44)
91. Vanderbilt (2-6) -6.2 27.4 (63) 33.6 (113) 0.1 (52)
92. NMSU (5-3) -6.6 25.8 (72) 32.4 (107) 0.0 (72)
93. Northwestern (3-4) -7.6 18.1 (117) 25.9 (64) 0.1 (49)
94. JSU (6-2) -7.8 20.3 (104) 28.0 (76) -0.1 (83)
95. Indiana (2-5) -8.7 20.9 (99) 29.7 (86) 0.1 (58)
96. Rice (4-3) -8.9 25.9 (71) 34.4 (121) -0.4 (121)
97. N. Texas (3-4) -9.2 30.9 (34) 40.3 (133) 0.2 (31)
98. Utah St. (3-5) -9.3 25.3 (75) 34.5 (122) -0.1 (82)
99. ODU (4-3) -9.3 18.4 (115) 27.3 (74) -0.3 (115)
100. FAU (3-4) -9.5 19.2 (109) 28.6 (80) -0.2 (94)
101. Stanford (2-5) -9.7 21.8 (93) 31.7 (102) 0.2 (37)
102. NIU (4-4) -9.8 19.6 (107) 29.1 (83) -0.2 (104)
103. Tulsa (3-4) -10.5 22.1 (91) 32.8 (110) 0.2 (40)
104. Navy (3-4) -11.3 17.1 (120) 28.1 (78) -0.3 (110)
105. Colorado St. (3-4) -11.6 20.9 (100) 32.5 (108) 0.1 (46)
106. San Diego St. (3-5) -11.7 19.1 (110) 30.7 (95) -0.1 (91)
107. Army (2-5) -12.4 18.2 (116) 30.5 (92) -0.1 (90)
108. La. Tech (3-5) -12.6 22.9 (89) 35.5 (126) 0.0 (81)
109. UAB (2-6) -12.9 23.0 (87) 35.5 (127) -0.4 (133)
110. MTSU (2-6) -13.0 20.4 (103) 33.0 (111) -0.3 (111)
111. Buffalo (3-5) -13.3 19.4 (108) 32.6 (109) -0.1 (87)
112. New Mexico (3-4) -13.4 23.4 (84) 36.4 (129) -0.3 (108)
113. Arkansas St. (3-4) -14.0 20.4 (101) 34.2 (119) -0.2 (102)
114. ECU (1-6) -14.1 13.4 (128) 27.1 (73) -0.4 (117)
115. BGSU (4-4) -14.2 18.5 (112) 32.4 (106) -0.4 (120)
116. USF (4-4) -15.1 21.5 (96) 36.5 (130) -0.1 (88)
117. EMU (4-4) -15.2 13.3 (129) 28.9 (81) 0.4 (8)
118. ULM (2-5) -15.6 18.7 (111) 34.1 (117) -0.2 (101)
119. So. Miss (1-6) -15.8 18.5 (113) 34.2 (120) 0.0 (73)
120. Hawaii (2-6) -16.6 20.4 (102) 37.0 (131) 0.0 (71)
121. SHSU (0-7) -16.6 10.6 (132) 26.8 (70) -0.4 (122)
122. UTEP (2-6) -16.8 15.7 (125) 32.2 (105) -0.4 (119)
123. FIU (4-4) -17.6 17.4 (118) 34.7 (124) -0.3 (107)
124. Charlotte (2-5) -18.0 13.2 (130) 30.8 (96) -0.4 (128)
125. UConn (1-6) -18.1 16.0 (123) 33.7 (114) -0.4 (130)
126. Ball St. (2-6) -18.3 14.0 (127) 32.1 (104) -0.2 (105)
127. WMU (2-6) -18.3 17.4 (119) 35.3 (125) -0.4 (126)
128. CMU (4-4) -18.7 15.4 (126) 33.9 (116) -0.3 (109)
129. Nevada (1-6) -18.9 15.9 (124) 34.6 (123) -0.3 (106)
130. Temple (2-6) -19.8 16.2 (122) 35.6 (128) -0.4 (123)
131. Akron (1-7) -21.0 11.4 (131) 32.0 (103) -0.4 (131)
132. UMass (1-7) -21.8 18.4 (114) 39.8 (132) -0.4 (127)
133. Kent St. (1-7) -25.1 6.0 (133) 31.1 (99) 0.0 (77)
This week's movers
Let's take a look at the teams that saw the biggest change in their overall ratings. (Note: We're looking at ratings, not rankings.)
MOVING UP
Here are the 10 teams that saw their ratings rise the most this week:
LSU: up 3.9 adjusted points per game (from 18th to 10th)
Michigan: up 3.6 (remains first)
New Mexico: up 3.4 (123rd to 112th)
Rice: up 3.2 (107th to 96th)
Missouri: up +3.0 (26th to 18th)
Boston College: up 2.9 (93rd to 83rd)
Alabama: up 2.8 (ninth to third)
Sam Houston: up 2.7 (127th to 121st)
Charlotte: up 2.4 (130th to 124th)
SMU: up 2.2 (60th to 46th)
With conference adjustments continuing to take on heavier weight each week, that benefited teams from the SEC and Pac-12 at the slight expense of the Big Ten and ACC. That Michigan still rose as many points as it did tells you quite a bit about how dominant the Wolverines continue to be, but the most interesting name here is Alabama's. SP+ was impressed by the Tide's tidy win over Tennessee; they held the edge in the efficiency and explosiveness categories and created more scoring opportunities and won by more than projected (34-20) despite an early 13-0 hole and some bad turnover luck.
Because the teams in the No. 3-11 range were so tightly clustered last week -- and because quite a few of those teams struggled in Week 8 -- their 2.8-point improvement was enough to vault them eight spots.
MOVING DOWN
Here are the 10 teams whose ratings fell the most:
Temple: down 4.0 adjusted points per game (121st to 130th)
Utah State: down 3.5 (85th to 98th)
Hawai'i: down 3.5 (109th to 120th)
Michigan State: down 3.4 (55th to 69th)
South Carolina: down 3.3 (39th to 50th)
Tulsa: down 3.0 (94th to 103rd)
Kent State: down 2.7 (132nd to 133rd)
FAU: down 2.7 (91st to 100th)
Washington: down 2.5 (fourth to seventh)
Duke: down 2.5 (22nd to 26th)
Scoring nine offensive points against an Arizona State team that allowed 21 to Southern Utah is not the best way to maintain a top-five ranking, Washington.
Conference rankings
Here are the FBS' 10 conferences, ranked by average SP+:
1. SEC: 11.1 average adjusted points per team (32.9 offense, 22.0 defense)
2. Pac-12: 8.2 average (32.9 offense, 24.6 defense)
3. Big 12: 8.1 average (32.0 offense, 24.0 defense)
4. Big Ten: 6.2 average (25.7 offense, 19.6 defense)
5. ACC: 6.1 average (28.5 offense, 22.6 defense)
6. Sun Belt: -4.9 average (24.5 offense, 29.4 defense)
7. Mountain West: -6.9 average (23.7 offense, 30.7 defense)
8. AAC: -8.6 average (22.9 offense, 31.3 defense)
9. Conference USA: -10.4 average (20.9 offense, 31.1 defense)
10. MAC: -13.3 average (17.0 offense, 30.2 defense)
The SEC continues to lead the way here, not because of a high volume of contenders -- its three top-15 teams are merely equal to the Big 12 and Big Ten and behind the Pac-12's four -- but because of a low volume of dead weight. Only one SEC team ranks outside the top 50, compared to the Pac-12's four, the Big 12's five and the Big Ten's seven.
Résumé SP+
Since the College Football Playoff rankings are on the horizon, I'm also including résumé SP+ rankings in this piece each week.
As mentioned above, SP+ is intended to be a power rating, not a résumé evaluation tool, but résumé SP+ attempts to fill that latter gap. It is a look at two things: (1) how the average SP+ top-five team would be projected to perform against your schedule (in terms of scoring margin), and (2) how your scoring margin compares to (1). Throw in a seven-point penalty for every loss a team has suffered, and you can say that this is what the CFP rankings would look like if SP+ were in charge.
(Note: Because of the high bar teams have to clear in getting compared to an average top-five team, and because of the loss adjustment, most of these teams end up with a negative score. It is what it is.)
Here is this week's résumé SP+ top 15:
1. Michigan (8-0), +7.5 PPG
2. Ohio State (7-0), +4.3
3. Florida State (7-0), +3.7
4. Oklahoma (7-0), +3.2
5. Washington (7-0), +0.2
6. Georgia (7-0), -0.4
7. Penn State (6-1), -2.2
8. Oregon (6-1), -4.4
9. Texas (6-1), -7.2
10. Ole Miss (6-1), -9.7
11. Oregon State (6-1), -9.9
12. Alabama (7-1), -10.5
13. Kansas State (5-2), -11.8
14. Utah (6-1), -13.8
15. Air Force (7-0), -14.0
Other unbeatens:
17. James Madison (7-0), -16.2
22. Liberty (7-0), -19.2
Another competitive loss to Ohio State -- an annual tradition -- leaves Penn State as your highest-ranked one-loss team, ahead of Oregon and a Texas team that struggled to put away Houston. But the top name on the list shouldn't be a surprise. I always like to say it's how you play, not who you play, and while Michigan hasn't played any interesting "whos," the how is unquestionable at this point: The Wolverines are really, really good, illegal scouting methods or no illegal scouting methods.
Cats have been looking good in most of the cpu/advanced metrics things all year.
Sitting at No. 19 in the massey composite now.
https://masseyratings.com/ranks
Moving back up in the Colley Matrix as well. Sitting at No. 28, and currently 7th among two loss teams.
https://www.colleyrankings.com/currank.html
Post by: MakeItRain on October 22, 2023, 08:47:52 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on October 22, 2023, 08:59:50 PM
The polls are really really really really bad. We got dropped 10 spots for losing to Missouri and never recovered. Pollsters stay committed to bad thought processes. Thank God the real top 25 starts next week.
Eh, looking at the other 2 loss teams ranked ahead of us, I’m having a hard time finding any that don’t deserve it. The only completely stupid thing is the same pollsters who dropped us over 10 spots for losing on the road to a record setting distance last second field goal, are the same pollsters who only dropped unc 7 spots for losing at home to arguable one of the absolute worst fbs teams in existence
Post by: MakeItRain on October 22, 2023, 09:06:07 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on October 22, 2023, 09:07:39 PM
The polls are really really really really bad. We got dropped 10 spots for losing to Missouri and never recovered. Pollsters stay committed to bad thought processes. Thank God the real top 25 starts next week.
Eh, looking at the other 2 loss teams ranked ahead of us, I’m having a hard time finding any that don’t deserve it. The only completely stupid thing is the same pollsters who dropped us over 10 spots for losing on the road to a record setting distance last second field goal, are the same pollsters who only dropped unc 7 spots for losing at home to arguable one of the absolute worst fbs teams in existence
Yeah, and vs a team currently 16 in said polls. Oh well. Just win, and continuing our Texas State Champs run will get us easily back into the top 15 by then. All I can think about honestly is getting to the Big 12 Champ game. One game at a time
Post by: mocat on October 22, 2023, 09:40:28 PM
UCLA have beaten absolutely no one and North Carolina and Louisville both should have dropped out of the top 25. I think that K-State and Oklahoma State are both top 25 teams right now.
The current sagarin rankings are bananas, but what you said about osu isn't that crazy:
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Post by: MadCat on October 29, 2023, 01:49:11 PM
Coaches NR
They didn’t do Texas any favors by our ranking
Post by: MakeItRain on October 29, 2023, 02:08:19 PM
Post by: pissclams on October 29, 2023, 02:19:33 PM
This is the last time I'm going to mention the AP and coaches polls because now they're irrelevant, in every sense of the word. These voters are so unserious about what they do. We dropped 10 spots after losing to Missouri, OU only dropped 4 places after losing to a team that had lost 2 of their last 3 games and who are playing with a backup quarterback. Meanwhile, KU and K-State enter the polls and OSU remains unranked. Those polls make zero sense.the only reason to pay attention to the ap poll is for studs & duds
Post by: nicname on October 29, 2023, 02:20:33 PM
Cats up to 27 in the Colley Matrix
https://www.colleyrankings.com/currank.html
Up to from 17 to 14 in the Massey Composite, which imo is the gold standard
https://masseyratings.com/ranks
Post by: pissclams on October 29, 2023, 02:31:07 PM
MIR points on AP poll are well stated.my gold standard
Cats up to 27 in the Colley Matrix
https://www.colleyrankings.com/currank.html
Up to from 17 to 14 in the Massey Composite, which imo is the gold standard
https://masseyratings.com/ranks
https://twitter.com/kfordratings/status/1718665174716953040?s=61&t=kHH-k8anwIfPUMhwWRaDiA
Post by: nicname on October 29, 2023, 02:34:30 PM
Also interested to see their “most deserving” ranking as well.
Post by: mocat on October 29, 2023, 03:19:31 PM
http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm (http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm)
Post by: mocat on October 29, 2023, 03:20:26 PM
AP 25That's pretty bad!
Coaches NR
They didn’t do Texas any favors by our ranking
Post by: wetwillie on October 29, 2023, 03:35:03 PM
Post by: mocat on October 29, 2023, 03:49:18 PM
@mocat why do the computer models seem to love TCU, and yours seems to appropriate rank them.Could be residual 2022 effects built in to other models. Snowbrag starts with a clean slate so generally takes longer to calibrate
Post by: CNS on October 29, 2023, 03:49:27 PM
This is the last time I'm going to mention the AP and coaches polls because now they're irrelevant, in every sense of the word. These voters are so unserious about what they do. We dropped 10 spots after losing to Missouri, OU only dropped 4 places after losing to a team that had lost 2 of their last 3 games and who are playing with a backup quarterback. Meanwhile, KU and K-State enter the polls and OSU remains unranked. Those polls make zero sense.
Meanwhile MU is #14
Post by: Katpappy on October 29, 2023, 05:24:57 PM
Post by: Spaces on October 30, 2023, 05:02:21 PM
https://twitter.com/bcfremeau/status/1719037795988074563
Post by: Hurricane Cat on November 07, 2023, 11:14:06 PM
https://x.com/KFordRatings/status/1721543150076887372?s=20
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Post by: Spracne on November 07, 2023, 11:33:00 PM
Post by: mocat on November 08, 2023, 07:42:26 AM
What's the real deal with James Madison?their best win and k state's best win are both against the same school
Post by: Spracne on November 08, 2023, 11:22:19 AM
What's the real deal with James Madison?their best win and k state's best win are both against the same school
It appears they've beaten no one of substance. I did chuckle when I saw that James Madison beat Virginia (Tom Jefferson).
Post by: stunted on November 08, 2023, 11:46:37 AM
Post by: wetwillie on November 08, 2023, 12:09:33 PM
Most of the non snowbrag models have TCU in the top 30 still.What's the real deal with James Madison?their best win and k state's best win are both against the same school
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Post by: mocat on November 08, 2023, 12:20:39 PM
Most of the non snowbrag models have TCU in the top 30 still.What's the real deal with James Madison?their best win and k state's best win are both against the same school
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What about the kford ratings
Post by: wetwillie on November 08, 2023, 12:34:03 PM
Week 11 rankings have them at 28Most of the non snowbrag models have TCU in the top 30 still.What's the real deal with James Madison?their best win and k state's best win are both against the same school
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Post by: mocat on November 08, 2023, 12:46:35 PM
well I think kford and snowbrag agree that tcu is MOST UNDESERVING of #28Week 11 rankings have them at 28Most of the non snowbrag models have TCU in the top 30 still.What's the real deal with James Madison?their best win and k state's best win are both against the same school
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Post by: mocat on November 08, 2023, 12:51:24 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 09, 2024, 09:03:41 AM
KU got jobbed at 23.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 09, 2024, 09:38:14 AM
Hey! Not bad, 18 in the AP final
KU got jobbed at 23.
:billdance:
Post by: catastrophe on January 09, 2024, 09:44:40 AM
Hey! Not bad, 18 in the AP finalThat one is on the bowl committee for sticking them in a bad bowl with an underwhelming opponent.
KU got jobbed at 23.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 09, 2024, 10:53:44 AM
Hey! Not bad, 18 in the AP finalThat one is on the bowl committee for sticking them in a bad bowl with an underwhelming opponent.
KU got jobbed at 23.
They also gave up 36 pts to an underwhelming opponent.
Post by: cfbandyman on January 09, 2024, 11:34:09 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 09, 2024, 02:22:07 PM
https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2024/01/09/ap-voter-doesnt-rank-any-big-12-football-team-in-final-rankings-other-than-texas-and-oklahoma/
Quote
While Ron Counts may have earned the title of dud of the year in the eyes of Big 12 fans everywhere, I believe the AP Poll says it best by reminding individuals to, “Please be kind to the voters.”
Not ranking KU and K-State is whatever, not ranking OSU is wild and there's no reasonable explanation for the exclusion.
Post by: MadCat on January 09, 2024, 03:10:20 PM
Post by: mocat on January 09, 2024, 03:58:30 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on January 09, 2024, 04:19:28 PM
is there some rule where you have to include at least one non-UT or OU team in the top 25?
Common sense
Post by: Skipper44 on January 09, 2024, 06:56:57 PM
Maybe he thinks the Big XII assassinated the PAC-12 and is sticking it to ushe is a UVa grad and knows the nuBig12 is coming for that ACC ass
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 09, 2024, 08:58:13 PM