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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: CyberToothCat on August 15, 2012, 05:44:42 PM
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I see that today is the priority deadline for renewing season tickets. Does anyone know how much season ticket sales have fallen compared to last year?
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I see that today is the priority deadline for renewing season tickets. Does anyone know how much season ticket sales have fallen compared to last year?
oscar-ketball, that's a great one. i got a buddy who works in the AD and he said that season ticket sales are up 300% over last year. sounds like frank's schtick had run its course with our fanbase.
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I got a phone call saying "you forgot to renew your season tickets, how can I help you do that now." I just laughed and said I'm not paying $550 per year to watch a guy who just got crap canned for going
under .500 the last 6 years in the BigTen because our AD doesn't give a crap about trying to field a top level basketball program. Just got a sorry you feel that way, to which I replied, "too bad our AD doesn't feel that same way."
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Can we just merge all these oscar threads into one? It's getting a little GPC up in here. We get it, he sucks, he likes chicken nuggets, #burnitdown, DUR DUR DUR. :Sigh:
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I got a phone call saying "you forgot to renew your season tickets, how can I help you do that now." I just laughed and said I'm not paying $550 per year to watch a guy who just got crap canned for going
under .500 the last 6 years in the BigTen because our AD doesn't give a crap about trying to field a top level basketball program. Just got a sorry you feel that way, to which I replied, "too bad our AD doesn't feel that same way."
Good job supporting K-State.
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"Hello Mr. Eisenbach, you haven't renewed your season tickets for Penn St football this year, how can I help you do that now?"
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I got a phone call saying "you forgot to renew your season tickets, how can I help you do that now." I just laughed and said I'm not paying $550 per year to watch a guy who just got crap canned for going
under .500 the last 6 years in the BigTen because our AD doesn't give a crap about trying to field a top level basketball program. Just got a sorry you feel that way, to which I replied, "too bad our AD doesn't feel that same way."
Good job supporting K-State.
although i disagree with how we went about doing it, he should definitely not support the athletic department if he feels like the AD isn't best representing his idea of how athletics, specifically basketball should be run. as adjc knows well, dollars speak the loudest and he shouldn't give his money to something that he doesn't believe in.
he didn't indicate what he's doing with the $500, maybe he gave it to the university and it became part of the record setting $121m.
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I got a phone call saying "you forgot to renew your season tickets, how can I help you do that now." I just laughed and said I'm not paying $550 per year to watch a guy who just got crap canned for going
under .500 the last 6 years in the BigTen because our AD doesn't give a crap about trying to field a top level basketball program. Just got a sorry you feel that way, to which I replied, "too bad our AD doesn't feel that same way."
Good job supporting K-State.
although i disagree with how we went about doing it, he should definitely not support the athletic department if he feels like the AD isn't best representing his idea of how athletics, specifically basketball should be run. as adjc knows well, dollars speak the loudest and he shouldn't give his money to something that he doesn't believe in.
he didn't indicate what he's doing with the $500, maybe he gave it to the university and it became part of the record setting $121m.
The guy hasn't coached a single game at K-State.
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you can't openly mock people wanting to hire doug gottlieb and use the "he hasn't coached a single game at KState" defense at the same time. you have to pick one or the other.
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you can't openly mock people wanting to hire doug gottlieb and use the "he hasn't coached a single game at KState" defense at the same time. you have to pick one or the other.
If we had hired Gottlieb (which I would not have liked) I would say the same thing to anyone who didn't like the hire. I support K-State and the people the work there until they give me reason to not do so. oscar hasn't given anyone reason to not support him here, other than you didn't like the hire. That's not enough of a reason imo.
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I also didn't renew. However, I plan on attending 3 or 4 games this year and will be watching the crap out of KSU on tv.
I plan to take advantage of several good games in conference being on weeknights.
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you can't openly mock people wanting to hire doug gottlieb and use the "he hasn't coached a single game at KState" defense at the same time. you have to pick one or the other.
If we had hired Gottlieb (which I would not have liked) I would say the same thing to anyone who didn't like the hire. I support K-State and the people the work there until they give me reason to not do so. oscar hasn't given anyone reason to not support him here, other than you didn't like the hire. That's not enough of a reason imo.
'Clams supports oscar / KSU hoops
Sys calls people nazis
Someone talks about how bad oscar was at Illinois recently
CC says we need to give him a chance, support our university
and so on
and so on
/thread
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I got a phone call saying "you forgot to renew your season tickets, how can I help you do that now." I just laughed and said I'm not paying $550 per year to watch a guy who just got crap canned for going
under .500 the last 6 years in the BigTen because our AD doesn't give a crap about trying to field a top level basketball program. Just got a sorry you feel that way, to which I replied, "too bad our AD doesn't feel that same way."
Good job supporting K-State.
although i disagree with how we went about doing it, he should definitely not support the athletic department if he feels like the AD isn't best representing his idea of how athletics, specifically basketball should be run. as adjc knows well, dollars speak the loudest and he shouldn't give his money to something that he doesn't believe in.
he didn't indicate what he's doing with the $500, maybe he gave it to the university and it became part of the record setting $121m.
The guy hasn't coached a single game at K-State.
i'm understand that and am one of the few here that are trying not to prejudge weber, despite how hard it is not to.
my point is that hamburgler doesn't have to agree with the hire, or support it, or support the guy that made it. he can still support k-state though.
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you can't openly mock people wanting to hire doug gottlieb and use the "he hasn't coached a single game at KState" defense at the same time. you have to pick one or the other.
If we had hired Gottlieb (which I would not have liked) I would say the same thing to anyone who didn't like the hire. I support K-State and the people the work there until they give me reason to not do so. oscar hasn't given anyone reason to not support him here, other than you didn't like the hire. That's not enough of a reason imo.
the reason is he just got fired, failed at his prior job and had just gotten passed over by garbage programs for their openings. that's plenty of reason. and, like clams, I'm not one of the people who constantly trash on oscar.
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you can't openly mock people wanting to hire doug gottlieb and use the "he hasn't coached a single game at KState" defense at the same time. you have to pick one or the other.
If we had hired Gottlieb (which I would not have liked) I would say the same thing to anyone who didn't like the hire. I support K-State and the people the work there until they give me reason to not do so. oscar hasn't given anyone reason to not support him here, other than you didn't like the hire. That's not enough of a reason imo.
the reason is he just got fired, failed at his prior job and had just gotten passed over by garbage programs for their openings. that's plenty of reason. and, like clams, I'm not one of the people who constantly trash on oscar.
on top of all of this, we gave him far too generous contract terms including paying him way more than we needed to or what the market would have dictated we should have. these two things (contract terms/pay scale), probably reflect the most poorly on adjc imo.
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I got a phone call saying "you forgot to renew your season tickets, how can I help you do that now." I just laughed and said I'm not paying $550 per year to watch a guy who just got crap canned for going
under .500 the last 6 years in the BigTen because our AD doesn't give a crap about trying to field a top level basketball program. Just got a sorry you feel that way, to which I replied, "too bad our AD doesn't feel that same way."
Good job supporting K-State.
The Hamburglar is K-State, and so on...
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you can't openly mock people wanting to hire doug gottlieb and use the "he hasn't coached a single game at KState" defense at the same time. you have to pick one or the other.
If we had hired Gottlieb (which I would not have liked) I would say the same thing to anyone who didn't like the hire. I support K-State and the people the work there until they give me reason to not do so. oscar hasn't given anyone reason to not support him here, other than you didn't like the hire. That's not enough of a reason imo.
the reason is he just got fired, failed at his prior job and had just gotten passed over by garbage programs for their openings. that's plenty of reason. and, like clams, I'm not one of the people who constantly trash on oscar.
on top of all of this, we gave him far too generous contract terms including paying him way more than we needed to or what the market would have dictated we should have. these two things (contract terms/pay scale), probably reflect the most poorly on adjc imo.
That's kind of BS, honestly. If we paid BW a lot less you guys would be using that as ammo in your weird "ADJC is cheap" campaign. He's demonstrating that he's willing to overpay to get the guy he wants. You disagree with who that guy is, that's fine... but the fact that he's willing and able to open the wallet to get him should be a positive sign.
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That's kind of BS, honestly. If we paid BW a lot less you guys would be using that as ammo in your weird "ADJC is cheap" campaign. He's demonstrating that he's willing to overpay to get the guy he wants. You disagree with who that guy is, that's fine... but the fact that he's willing and able to open the wallet to get him should be a positive sign.
I figured it was so that they simply had to change the name on Frank's contract in Word and print it.
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you can't openly mock people wanting to hire doug gottlieb and use the "he hasn't coached a single game at KState" defense at the same time. you have to pick one or the other.
If we had hired Gottlieb (which I would not have liked) I would say the same thing to anyone who didn't like the hire. I support K-State and the people the work there until they give me reason to not do so. oscar hasn't given anyone reason to not support him here, other than you didn't like the hire. That's not enough of a reason imo.
the reason is he just got fired, failed at his prior job and had just gotten passed over by garbage programs for their openings. that's plenty of reason. and, like clams, I'm not one of the people who constantly trash on oscar.
on top of all of this, we gave him far too generous contract terms including paying him way more than we needed to or what the market would have dictated we should have. these two things (contract terms/pay scale), probably reflect the most poorly on adjc imo.
That's kind of BS, honestly. If we paid BW a lot less you guys would be using that as ammo in your weird "ADJC is cheap" campaign. He's demonstrating that he's willing to overpay to get the guy he wants. You disagree with who that guy is, that's fine... but the fact that he's willing and able to open the wallet to get him should be a positive sign.
that's a really weird way to spin paying twice the going rate for something.
let's just not go down this road. it won't change anything or anyone's take on the situation.
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I got a phone call saying "you forgot to renew your season tickets, how can I help you do that now." I just laughed and said I'm not paying $550 per year to watch a guy who just got crap canned for going
under .500 the last 6 years in the BigTen because our AD doesn't give a crap about trying to field a top level basketball program. Just got a sorry you feel that way, to which I replied, "too bad our AD doesn't feel that same way."
Good job supporting K-State.
I live 5 hours away and have had basketball and football season tickets since I graduated 5 years ago and have only missed 1 FB game for my mother-in-laws funeral, don't give me this crap.
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you can't openly mock people wanting to hire doug gottlieb and use the "he hasn't coached a single game at KState" defense at the same time. you have to pick one or the other.
If we had hired Gottlieb (which I would not have liked) I would say the same thing to anyone who didn't like the hire. I support K-State and the people the work there until they give me reason to not do so. oscar hasn't given anyone reason to not support him here, other than you didn't like the hire. That's not enough of a reason imo.
the reason is he just got fired, failed at his prior job and had just gotten passed over by garbage programs for their openings. that's plenty of reason. and, like clams, I'm not one of the people who constantly trash on oscar.
on top of all of this, we gave him far too generous contract terms including paying him way more than we needed to or what the market would have dictated we should have. these two things (contract terms/pay scale), probably reflect the most poorly on adjc imo.
His base salary is fine imo. The only thing that I have a problem with in his contract is that he gets a bonus if he makes the NIT or has at least a 10-8 record in the Big 12. Bonuses should only be for success. NIT is mediocrity. 10-8 big 12 record is mediocrity. :facepalm:
... but I really like the bonuses he gets for the academic success of our team, based on the Academic Progress Rate/ Graduation rate. I like that. I hope all our sports do that.
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I got a phone call saying "you forgot to renew your season tickets, how can I help you do that now." I just laughed and said I'm not paying $550 per year to watch a guy who just got crap canned for going
under .500 the last 6 years in the BigTen because our AD doesn't give a crap about trying to field a top level basketball program. Just got a sorry you feel that way, to which I replied, "too bad our AD doesn't feel that same way."
Good job supporting K-State.
I live 5 hours away and have had basketball and football season tickets since I graduated 5 years ago and have only missed 1 FB game for my mother-in-laws funeral, don't give me this crap.
Squawk
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you can't openly mock people wanting to hire doug gottlieb and use the "he hasn't coached a single game at KState" defense at the same time. you have to pick one or the other.
If we had hired Gottlieb (which I would not have liked) I would say the same thing to anyone who didn't like the hire. I support K-State and the people the work there until they give me reason to not do so. oscar hasn't given anyone reason to not support him here, other than you didn't like the hire. That's not enough of a reason imo.
the reason is he just got fired, failed at his prior job and had just gotten passed over by garbage programs for their openings. that's plenty of reason. and, like clams, I'm not one of the people who constantly trash on oscar.
on top of all of this, we gave him far too generous contract terms including paying him way more than we needed to or what the market would have dictated we should have. these two things (contract terms/pay scale), probably reflect the most poorly on adjc imo.
His base salary is fine imo. The only thing that I have a problem with in his contract is that he gets a bonus if he makes the NIT or has at least a 10-8 record in the Big 12. Bonuses should only be for success. NIT is mediocrity. 10-8 big 12 record is mediocrity. :facepalm:
... but I really like the bonuses he gets for the academic success of our team, based on the Academic Progress Rate/ Graduation rate. I like that. I hope all our sports do that.
his base salary is way too high, and so are you if you don't believe that. the dude was looking at going back to S Illinois or another mid.
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let's just not go down this road. it won't change anything or anyone's take on the situation.
Agreed. Apologies to burglar, I should have kept it to myself.
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How are season ticket sales compared to last year?
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let's just not go down this road. it won't change anything or anyone's take on the situation.
Agreed. Apologies to burglar, I should have kept it to myself.
good call. by the way, are you bernie haney?
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How are season ticket sales compared to last year?
Also, anything opened up in 18?
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let's just not go down this road. it won't change anything or anyone's take on the situation.
Agreed. Apologies to burglar, I should have kept it to myself.
good call. by the way, are you bernie haney?
Pro tip: the benefits of having anonymous message board insiders tend to go down sharply if they are no longer anonymous.
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How are season ticket sales compared to last year?
About the same
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let's just not go down this road. it won't change anything or anyone's take on the situation.
Agreed. Apologies to burglar, I should have kept it to myself.
good call. by the way, are you bernie haney?
Pro tip: the benefits of having anonymous message board insiders tend to go down sharply if they are no longer anonymous.
:sdeek:
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let's just not go down this road. it won't change anything or anyone's take on the situation.
Agreed. Apologies to burglar, I should have kept it to myself.
good call. by the way, are you bernie haney?
Pro tip: the benefits of having anonymous message board insiders tend to go down sharply if they are no longer anonymous.
:sdeek:
Meant that as advice to not ask who people are in real life, not as confirmation or denial of identity btw
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god i love captain crap. kind of a smartass. :thumbs:
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let's just not go down this road. it won't change anything or anyone's take on the situation.
Agreed. Apologies to burglar, I should have kept it to myself.
good call. by the way, are you bernie haney?
Pro tip: the benefits of having anonymous message board insiders tend to go down sharply if they are no longer anonymous.
:sdeek:
Meant that as advice to not ask who people are in real life, not as confirmation or denial of identity btw
:sdeek:
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elltopay, shut up
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I got a phone call saying "you forgot to renew your season tickets, how can I help you do that now." I just laughed and said I'm not paying $550 per year to watch a guy who just got crap canned for going
under .500 the last 6 years in the BigTen because our AD doesn't give a crap about trying to field a top level basketball program. Just got a sorry you feel that way, to which I replied, "too bad our AD doesn't feel that same way."
Good job supporting K-State.
Captain is right. If you stop buying tickets, you'll only be hurting the athletic department, not oscar Weber.
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I like CC. I swear to god if you scare him away again... :shakesfist:
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you can't openly mock people wanting to hire doug gottlieb and use the "he hasn't coached a single game at KState" defense at the same time. you have to pick one or the other.
If we had hired Gottlieb (which I would not have liked) I would say the same thing to anyone who didn't like the hire. I support K-State and the people the work there until they give me reason to not do so. oscar hasn't given anyone reason to not support him here, other than you didn't like the hire. That's not enough of a reason imo.
Here's the rough ridin' reason, dumbass...He's a proven loser in the Big 10 a tradition rich basketball school. What now mother rough rider?
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CaptainCrap, can you shed any light on the athletic department's decision to remove the Bramlage Dog from the concession menus? I loved that thing.
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Are we mis-reading the record book at Illinois? Are we incorrect in pointing out that he drove that program into the ground?
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let's just not go down this road. it won't change anything or anyone's take on the situation.
Agreed. Apologies to burglar, I should have kept it to myself.
Don't worry about it, that's the point of this board. I also shouldn't have said to the phone person, they're just trying to do their job and it's not their fault they had to phrase their sales call that way.
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I like CC. I swear to god if you scare him away again... :shakesfist:
lol, maybe i should have said 'what now mother rough rider' instead of asking him if he was a friend of mine.
:flush:
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Good god I love everyone here, especially Pete, but eff me. I mean we've bitched for 5 straight months about this. Can we take a break? Just give it one rough ridin' season, for christ sake. I feel like we're having the same conversation over, and over, and over... Yes proven loser, chicken nuggets, dumbass, and more. He's also proven to be a winner with other coaches players. Can I atleast enjoy this season before we #burnitdown? Or are we going to have the same convo on every thread, every day? Cause if so, eff it, I might give kstatefans a try again.
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Good god I love everyone here, especially Pete, but eff me. I mean we've bitched for 5 straight months about this. Can we take a break? Just give it one rough ridin' season, for christ sake. I feel like we're having the same conversation over, and over, and over... Yes proven loser, chicken nuggets, dumbass, and more. He's also proven to be a winner with other coaches players. Can I atleast enjoy this season before we #burnitdown? Or are we going to have the same convo on every thread, every day? Cause if so, eff it, I might give kstatefans a try again.
If you don't want to have the conversation over and over don't participate in the conversations. It seems easy enough to me.
And captain, thanks again for your input in these threads.
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Good god I love everyone here, especially Pete, but eff me. I mean we've bitched for 5 straight months about this. Can we take a break? Just give it one rough ridin' season, for christ sake. I feel like we're having the same conversation over, and over, and over... Yes proven loser, chicken nuggets, dumbass, and more. He's also proven to be a winner with other coaches players. Can I atleast enjoy this season before we #burnitdown? Or are we going to have the same convo on every thread, every day? Cause if so, eff it, I might give kstatefans a try again.
If you don't want to have the conversation over and over don't participate in the conversations. It seems easy enough to me.
And captain, thanks again for your input in these threads.
:dubious: Thanks, _fan
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yep, thanks captain
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Good god I love everyone here, especially Pete, but eff me. I mean we've bitched for 5 straight months about this. Can we take a break? Just give it one rough ridin' season, for christ sake. I feel like we're having the same conversation over, and over, and over... Yes proven loser, chicken nuggets, dumbass, and more. He's also proven to be a winner with other coaches players. Can I atleast enjoy this season before we #burnitdown? Or are we going to have the same convo on every thread, every day? Cause if so, eff it, I might give kstatefans a try again.
If you don't want to have the conversation over and over don't participate in the conversations. It seems easy enough to me.
And captain, thanks again for your input in these threads.
_FAN with an appearance!! :excited: Must be close to football season! :dance:
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Good god I love everyone here, especially Pete, but eff me. I mean we've bitched for 5 straight months about this. Can we take a break? Just give it one rough ridin' season, for christ sake. I feel like we're having the same conversation over, and over, and over... Yes proven loser, chicken nuggets, dumbass, and more. He's also proven to be a winner with other coaches players. Can I atleast enjoy this season before we #burnitdown? Or are we going to have the same convo on every thread, every day? Cause if so, eff it, I might give kstatefans a try again.
I'll do whatever the eff I want, fanning.
We all agree that Frank's players should have a good season this year. When that happens, are you getting back on #burnitdown next April once you've enjoyed this season?
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And I renewed my season tickets, making me a better fan and supporter than the rest of you, regardless of if my attendance also features me wearing a customized Puerto Rico flag grocery bag as a mask.
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Good god I love everyone here, especially Pete, but eff me. I mean we've bitched for 5 straight months about this. Can we take a break? Just give it one rough ridin' season, for christ sake. I feel like we're having the same conversation over, and over, and over... Yes proven loser, chicken nuggets, dumbass, and more. He's also proven to be a winner with other coaches players. Can I atleast enjoy this season before we #burnitdown? Or are we going to have the same convo on every thread, every day? Cause if so, eff it, I might give kstatefans a try again.
If you don't want to have the conversation over and over don't participate in the conversations. It seems easy enough to me.
And captain, thanks again for your input in these threads.
_FAN with an appearance!! :excited: Must be close to football season! :dance:
Yeah, weird. His first post in a decade and of course it's to retaliate me. Just when you think you know someone. Smh.
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CaptainCrap, can you shed any light on the athletic department's decision to remove the Bramlage Dog from the concession menus? I loved that thing.
No way, that dog was the only reason I went to games neckbrace's last year.
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CaptainCrap, can you shed any light on the athletic department's decision to remove the Bramlage Dog from the concession menus? I loved that thing.
No way, that dog was the only reason I went to games neckbrace's last year.
kraut AND chili? THATS how you do edgy. Did John Currie kill the bramlage dog? Did Frank leave because of the way bramlage dog was treated?
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Good god I love everyone here, especially Pete, but eff me. I mean we've bitched for 5 straight months about this. Can we take a break? Just give it one rough ridin' season, for christ sake. I feel like we're having the same conversation over, and over, and over... Yes proven loser, chicken nuggets, dumbass, and more. He's also proven to be a winner with other coaches players. Can I atleast enjoy this season before we #burnitdown? Or are we going to have the same convo on every thread, every day? Cause if so, eff it, I might give kstatefans a try again.
I'll do whatever the eff I want, fanning.
We all agree that Frank's players should have a good season this year. When that happens, are you getting back on #burnitdown next April once you've enjoyed this season?
I don't know. Just exhusted from reading the same thing. I needed to vent. I think of goEMAW as creative and new. I can only read so many times about how we're all rough ridin' doomed. I mean, yeah, we know. Is there really anything we can do? Currie probably reads this board everyday and laughs in his office. BTW, houli PAK in two weeks. :excited:
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Is there really anything we can do?
Yes.
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Question for the oscar haters: do you think he'll be successful this year? (Success being a top 4 finish in the Big 12 and winning at least one tourney game.)
[I kinda think he will. Not that it would prove anything, but still.]
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Question for the oscar haters: do you think he'll be successful this year? (Success being a top 4 finish in the Big 12 and winning at least one tourney game.)
[I kinda think he will. Not that it would prove anything, but still.]
Yes, easily.
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Question for the oscar haters: do you think he'll be successful this year? (Success being a top 4 finish in the Big 12 and winning at least one tourney game.)
[I kinda think he will. Not that it would prove anything, but still.]
Yes, emo. He will. It will be similar to the haith situation. Then we'll fade into oblivion. But this season: :excited:
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So can we agree that there will be no "I told you so" after this successful season?
I promise I'll turn positive on oscar if we finish in the top half in 2013/14 and have some good recruits lined up.
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So can we agree that there will be no "I told you so" after this successful season?
you know there will be
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So can we agree that there will be no "I told you so" after this successful season?
you know there will be
Yep, they'll come out of the woodworks.
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The same people said the same crap about supporting Ron Prince and the athletic department, when some of us objected to the hire and his continued employment.
Guess what our public anger and criticism of Ron Prince did?
It helped affect change, and that change has been a cornerstone of the many factors that have helped create the $150M football facilities enhancements.
I expect Weber to repeat his results at Illinois...win early with someone else's players, and then fail to sustain.
I believe KSU deserves better. This has inspired me. What would it take to start a scholarship fund specifically named for those who want to donate to KSU and ensure that it doesn't go to the athletic department in protest to John Currie's hire of oscar Weber?
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Yeah, this year(and even partially next year) don't prove anything unless he fails. Success this year doesn't mean anything other than immediate enjoyment for WildWildCat BB fans. Failure means his coaching doesn't mean that his coaching isn't awesome but that it makes teams worse.
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What would it take to start a scholarship fund specifically named for those who want to donate to KSU and ensure that it doesn't go to the athletic department in protest to John Currie's hire of oscar Weber?
it's called the K-State Foundation
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Guess what our public anger and criticism of Ron Prince did?
It helped affect change
Getting embarrassed by KU and Mizzou and Nebraska did more to affect change than your complaining when he was hired.
Results on the field/court is the thing that will matter most. BW hasn't had any results HERE to judge it yet. That's all I'm saying. You can have a bad feeling or disagree, that's great. have fun. But I really feel like a good number of you would not enjoy a Final Four appearance this year because you're worried about the 2014 season.
If/when BW starts to lose like Wooly did or whatever, then yes, by all means, start protesting with your wallets or show up with bags on your head. But to do so before he even has a half under his belt here, I personally don't get.
Sorry, I know we said we were stopping. Last little burst from me, promise.
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What would it take to start a scholarship fund specifically named for those who want to donate to KSU and ensure that it doesn't go to the athletic department in protest to John Currie's hire of oscar Weber?
it's called the K-State Foundation
No, it literally is not, because it is not literally stating the fund is in protest of the Weber hire.
I want to take your suggestion to move my money to a KSU donation not affiliated with Weber, and want it to be clear that this is the case.
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What would it take to start a scholarship fund specifically named for those who want to donate to KSU and ensure that it doesn't go to the athletic department in protest to John Currie's hire of oscar Weber?
it's called the K-State Foundation
:thumbs: And I think starting this year the University isn't going to be giving any more money to the athletics department.
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The same people said the same crap about supporting Ron Prince and the athletic department, when some of us objected to the hire and his continued employment.
Guess what our public anger and criticism of Ron Prince did?
It helped affect change, and that change has been a cornerstone of the many factors that have helped create the $150M football facilities enhancements.
:thumbs:
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Guess what our public anger and criticism of Ron Prince did?
It helped affect change
If/when BW starts to lose like Wooly did or whatever,
You know you should have finished that sentence with "like he did at Illinois."
Just rough ridin' acknowledge that fact.
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Guess what our public anger and criticism of Ron Prince did?
It helped affect change
Getting embarrassed by KU and Mizzou and Nebraska did more to affect change than your complaining when he was hired.
Results on the field/court is the thing that will matter most. BW hasn't had any results HERE to judge it yet. That's all I'm saying. You can have a bad feeling or disagree, that's great. have fun. But I really feel like a good number of you would not enjoy a Final Four appearance this year because you're worried about the 2014 season.
If/when BW starts to lose like Wooly did or whatever, then yes, by all means, start protesting with your wallets or show up with bags on your head. But to do so before he even has a half under his belt here, I personally don't get.
Sorry, I know we said we were stopping. Last little burst from me, promise.
Welp, let's skip past the wallets and bags and go straight to the airplane banners.
CC, I know you're smart enough to get it. This has nothing to do with what's fair or unfair to oscar Weber.
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Guess what our public anger and criticism of Ron Prince did?
It helped affect change
If/when BW starts to lose like Wooly did or whatever,
You know you should have finished that sentence with "like he did at Illinois."
Just rough ridin' acknowledge that fact.
JFC dude I am not saying he is the best coach ever or that he didn't struggle at Illinois in some years. Yes, at Illinois he had losing seasons. I am aware, never denied it. You'll notice that I have never once in any thread posted that I was in favor of the hire. That isn't the point. If/when he starts having losing seasons or whatever here, you should protest it however you'd like to do so. If I am not mistaken, he has not yet lost a game at K-State. That's all I'm saying.
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Guess what our public anger and criticism of Ron Prince did?
It helped affect change
Getting embarrassed by KU and Mizzou and Nebraska did more to affect change than your complaining when he was hired.
Results on the field/court is the thing that will matter most. BW hasn't had any results HERE to judge it yet. That's all I'm saying. You can have a bad feeling or disagree, that's great. have fun. But I really feel like a good number of you would not enjoy a Final Four appearance this year because you're worried about the 2014 season.
If/when BW starts to lose like Wooly did or whatever, then yes, by all means, start protesting with your wallets or show up with bags on your head. But to do so before he even has a half under his belt here, I personally don't get.
Sorry, I know we said we were stopping. Last little burst from me, promise.
Welp, let's skip past the wallets and bags and go straight to the airplane banners.
CC, I know you're smart enough to get it. This has nothing to do with what's fair or unfair to oscar Weber.
Sooooo it has to do with Currie? :confused:
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What would it take to start a scholarship fund specifically named for those who want to donate to KSU and ensure that it doesn't go to the athletic department in protest to John Currie's hire of oscar Weber?
it's called the K-State Foundation
No, it literally is not, because it is not literally stating the fund is in protest of the Weber hire.
I want to take your suggestion to move my money to a KSU donation not affiliated with Weber, and want it to be clear that this is the case.
oh, i didn't realize that it had to explicitly state that your money is being given because you hate weber.
well i'm sure the university isn't going to get in your way of setting up Pete's Anti-Weber Scholarship fund. i thought you were just looking for the flexibility that the foundation affords.
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I would like to point out that anyone who wants to donate money in anger at oscar Weber or John Currie or really anyone is welcome to do so to the #fatty4ksu fund and we will recognize their donation as such.
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If/when BW starts to lose like Wooly did or whatever, then yes, by all means, start protesting with your wallets or show up with bags on your head. But to do so before he even has a half under his belt here, I personally don't get.
This also works to rationalize away any terrible hire.
"HOW CAN YOU KNOW HE'LL FAIL?!? KEEP DONATING MONEY AND BUYING TICKETS*
* AT LEAST UNTIL HE FAILS, THEN FEEL FREE TO STOP"
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Guess what our public anger and criticism of Ron Prince did?
It helped affect change
If/when BW starts to lose like Wooly did or whatever,
You know you should have finished that sentence with "like he did at Illinois."
Just rough ridin' acknowledge that fact.
JFC dude I am not saying he is the best coach ever or that he didn't struggle at Illinois in some years. Yes, at Illinois he had losing seasons. I am aware, never denied it. You'll notice that I have never once in any thread posted that I was in favor of the hire. That isn't the point. If/when he starts having losing seasons or whatever here, you should protest it however you'd like to do so. If I am not mistaken, he has not yet lost a game at K-State. That's all I'm saying.
Fair enough. I still love you.
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Guess what our public anger and criticism of Ron Prince did?
It helped affect change
Getting embarrassed by KU and Mizzou and Nebraska did more to affect change than your complaining when he was hired.
Results on the field/court is the thing that will matter most. BW hasn't had any results HERE to judge it yet. That's all I'm saying. You can have a bad feeling or disagree, that's great. have fun. But I really feel like a good number of you would not enjoy a Final Four appearance this year because you're worried about the 2014 season.
If/when BW starts to lose like Wooly did or whatever, then yes, by all means, start protesting with your wallets or show up with bags on your head. But to do so before he even has a half under his belt here, I personally don't get.
Sorry, I know we said we were stopping. Last little burst from me, promise.
Welp, let's skip past the wallets and bags and go straight to the airplane banners.
CC, I know you're smart enough to get it. This has nothing to do with what's fair or unfair to oscar Weber.
Sooooo it has to do with Currie? :confused:
Specifically the fact that the unprecedented fun of the last 5 years has been terminated and replaced with a Weber-type, and that Currie thinks you're all too stupid to be upset about it for a number of reasons the marketing think tank came up with, such as "Weber has more career wins than Frank."
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I would like to point out that anyone who wants to donate money in anger at oscar Weber or John Currie or really anyone is welcome to do so to the #fatty4ksu fund and we will recognize their donation as such.
Good call. It goes to KSU.
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If/when BW starts to lose like Wooly did or whatever, then yes, by all means, start protesting with your wallets or show up with bags on your head. But to do so before he even has a half under his belt here, I personally don't get.
This also works to rationalize away any terrible hire.
"HOW CAN YOU KNOW HE'LL FAIL?!? KEEP DONATING MONEY AND BUYING TICKETS*
* AT LEAST UNTIL HE FAILS, THEN FEEL FREE TO STOP"
supporting the team isn't a bad thing.
go to the games, support the team, they win, everyone wins.
go to the games, support the team, they lose, things will change.
this isn't rocket science. we, k-state fans, have the most to lose by turning our backs and killing the program. not currie, not weber, not anyone else.
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Well, I don't know about you guys, but I'm going to go to basketball games because I want to watch K-State basketball. Because it is something that I love. EMAW. :kstatriot:
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Guess what our public anger and criticism of Ron Prince did?
It helped affect change
Getting embarrassed by KU and Mizzou and Nebraska did more to affect change than your complaining when he was hired.
Results on the field/court is the thing that will matter most. BW hasn't had any results HERE to judge it yet. That's all I'm saying. You can have a bad feeling or disagree, that's great. have fun. But I really feel like a good number of you would not enjoy a Final Four appearance this year because you're worried about the 2014 season.
If/when BW starts to lose like Wooly did or whatever, then yes, by all means, start protesting with your wallets or show up with bags on your head. But to do so before he even has a half under his belt here, I personally don't get.
Sorry, I know we said we were stopping. Last little burst from me, promise.
to me it's a conditioning thing and the weber hire gives the appearance that having a top notch bball team is not important. we just hired a similar school's reject loser. absolutely ridiculous and i won't reward that behavior just like i won't give my dog a treat if he craps on the floor or whatever. bad k-state. also, i'd enjoy the crap out of a final four and will be cheering big time for this basketball team this year while i watch on tv. go cats, ftb, etc.
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I support K-State and the people that work there.
the only way to support kstate is to not support the people that work there.
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I support K-State and the people that work there.
the only way to support kstate is to not support the people that work there.
I don't even know what this means
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Guess what our public anger and criticism of Ron Prince did?
It helped affect change
Getting embarrassed by KU and Mizzou and Nebraska did more to affect change than your complaining when he was hired.
Results on the field/court is the thing that will matter most. BW hasn't had any results HERE to judge it yet. That's all I'm saying. You can have a bad feeling or disagree, that's great. have fun. But I really feel like a good number of you would not enjoy a Final Four appearance this year because you're worried about the 2014 season.
If/when BW starts to lose like Wooly did or whatever, then yes, by all means, start protesting with your wallets or show up with bags on your head. But to do so before he even has a half under his belt here, I personally don't get.
Sorry, I know we said we were stopping. Last little burst from me, promise.
Welp, let's skip past the wallets and bags and go straight to the airplane banners.
CC, I know you're smart enough to get it. This has nothing to do with what's fair or unfair to oscar Weber.
Sooooo it has to do with Currie? :confused:
Specifically the fact that the unprecedented fun of the last 5 years has been terminated and replaced with a Weber-type, and that Currie thinks you're all too stupid to be upset about it for a number of reasons the marketing think tank came up with, such as "Weber has more career wins than Frank."
I don't think Currie doesn't think people are upset about it. People obviously are. And I don't think the athletics department has ever once looked back and compared BW to Martin. Maybe the media has, but not the athletics department. I think he wants to promote the new coach as much as he can. If he thinks career wins is a selling point, he'll try to sell it. That's what K-State is paying him to do.
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If/when BW starts to lose like Wooly did or whatever,
You know you should have finished that sentence with "like he did at Illinois."
i liked trim, pete and daris before currie ran off martin, but now i rough ridin' love them. it's like one of those silver linings that some clouds come with.
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My personal belief is that John Currie is COUNTING on oscar Weber's tenure at KSU to parallel his tenure at Illinois.
John Currie, with good reason, believes that Weber can win early....with Frank's players. That will look good to have hired a "winning" basketball coach when you are searching for a new AD job...it "checks a box" on the resume. I personally believe that John Currie is not concerned about what Weber's program looks like in 5 years.
My faith in those beliefs is quite steadfast.
My hunch is that John Currie actually believes that Weber will not succeed in the long term, but my belief is that John Currie simply does not care.
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And I don't think the athletics department has ever once looked back and compared BW to Martin. Maybe the media has, but not the athletics department. I think he wants to promote the new coach as much as he can. If he thinks career wins is a selling point, he'll try to sell it. That's what K-State is paying him to do.
Read the nutpak thread.
Would you expect all people to be swayed by comparing career wins of a 14-year coach vs. a 5-year coach or just stupid people?
If somebody tried to convince you, a non-stupid person, that the 14-year coach is better than the 5-year coach because the 14-year coach has more career wins, would you be upset at the coach or the person condescendingly trying to make that argument?
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If I am not mistaken, he has not yet lost a game at K-State.
i think he's lost two. and also got himself banned from coaching in a foreign country (surprisingly, for boorish behavior and not his nazi past, but then, it was brazil).
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So let's say you are a regular at a restaurant that has been pretty good for the last 5 years, ever since they got a new chef. He didn't always use the highest quality ingredients, but managed to put out quality meals, and the dining experience was always entertaining. A few blocks east, there is another restaurant that is a little fancier and has a few more amenities and is in a better location. The restaurant was really good when the chef there took over, but he has managed to run it in to the ground over the past few years. The chef there uses better ingredients, but serves up crap sandwiches. After the chef at your restaurant leaves over a disagreement with management and the chef at the restaurant to the east has been fired for poor performance, your favorite restaurant decides to hire the chef who just got fired for serving crap sandwiches.
Should you not voice your immediate displeasure with the decision to hire the bad chef, or should you bide your time for a few years to see if he has figured out to be a good chef? Should you find a new restaurant?
Maybe you should burn your favorite restaurant down.
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I guess you have to wait for the first crap sandwich.
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the only way to support kstate is to not support the people that work there.
I don't even know what this means
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yes you do.
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the only way to support kstate is to not support the people that work there.
I don't even know what this means
yes you do.
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I guess I'm dumb. Cuz I don't.
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guys, let's not relive march
this board sucked bad enough the first time we did this.
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So let's say you are a regular at a restaurant that has been pretty good for the last 5 years, ever since they got a new chef. He didn't always use the highest quality ingredients, but managed to put out quality meals, and the dining experience was always entertaining. A few blocks east, there is another restaurant that is a little fancier and has a few more amenities and is in a better location. The restaurant was really good when the chef there took over, but he has managed to run it in to the ground over the past few years. The chef there uses better ingredients, but serves up crap sandwiches. After the chef at your restaurant leaves over a disagreement with management and the chef at the restaurant to the east has been fired for poor performance, your favorite restaurant decides to hire the chef who just got fired for serving crap sandwiches.
Should you not voice your immediate displeasure with the decision to hire the bad chef, or should you bide your time for a few years to see if he has figured out to be a good chef? Should you find a new restaurant?
Maybe you should burn your favorite restaurant down.
I would order the salad. :thumbsup:
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And I don't think the athletics department has ever once looked back and compared BW to Martin. Maybe the media has, but not the athletics department. I think he wants to promote the new coach as much as he can. If he thinks career wins is a selling point, he'll try to sell it. That's what K-State is paying him to do.
Read the nutpak thread.
Would you expect all people to be swayed by comparing career wins of a 14-year coach vs. a 5-year coach or just stupid people?
If somebody tried to convince you, a non-stupid person, that the 14-year coach is better than the 5-year coach because the 14-year coach has more career wins, would you be upset at the coach or the person condescendingly trying to make that argument?
Looked for the nutpak thread. Couldn't find it. Maybe I'm actually one of the stupid people.
I think that I would look at more than just career wins. I really don't know where you're getting that Currie is being condescending... but perhaps that was explained in the nutpak thread.
For whatever reason though, K-State fans are apparently pumped about this basketball season. Ticket sales are up, right? Maybe it's just overflow from people being pumped about football and buying football/basketball at the same time? Who knows. I am excited to find out what is going to happen though.
Sorry if I am drawing out a conversation that people don't actually care about.
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FTR, I fully expect a Final Four appearance next year. Anything less and I'm ready to fire oscar before I see the next recruiting class.
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I guess I'm dumb. Cuz I don't.
well, you'll figure it out when you read the nutpak thread.
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Looked for the nutpak thread. Couldn't find it. Maybe I'm actually one of the stupid people.
I think that I would look at more than just career wins. I really don't know where you're getting that Currie is being condescending... but perhaps that was explained in the nutpak thread.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=20435.msg533884#msg533884
For whatever reason though, K-State fans are apparently pumped about this basketball season. Ticket sales are up, right? Maybe it's just overflow from people being pumped about football and buying football/basketball at the same time? Who knows. I am excited to find out what is going to happen though.
Well, I bought season tickets and I hate this situation with all my heart. But I am K-State just like Angel and JO and Rodney and Tay so I'm gonna go support those guys (K-State) doing their thing. I guess I'm looking forward to seeing what those studs that Frank Martin routed to becoming K-Staters can do in their last go-round together. No football tickets.
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I guess I'm dumb. Cuz I don't.
well, you'll figure it out when you read the nutpak thread.
Read it. You don't like Currie. Got it. You should have been more specific in you original comment, as there are many people who work at K-State that are not named John Currie.
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The easiest way for me to go about it and get excited about next season is to kind of concoct a mindset of "we don't have a basketball coach" and act like the players are just going out and playing for themselves. It's completely stupid, sure, but it's the only way I can get myself to want to watch the team at all next season. I guess I just figure that the acceptance phase will fall into place at some point.
Also, both sides have a point in this debate. There are absolutely good reasons to be pissed off--at JC, Frank, everyone--about how everything went down, and it's acceptable to vent that anger towards the people in charge. That said, constantly talking about it is gonna get old really quickly (and already has for some). Not sure how a happy medium can be established between the two sides, but it'd be great if we could find it.
go cats
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The easiest way for me to go about it and get excited about next season is to kind of concoct a mindset of "we don't have a basketball coach" and act like the players are just going out and playing for themselves.
I've done this.
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Also, both sides have a point in this debate. There are absolutely good reasons to be pissed off--at JC, Frank, everyone--about how everything went down, and it's acceptable to vent that anger towards the people in charge. That said, constantly talking about it is gonna get old really quickly (and already has for some). Not sure how a happy medium can be established between the two sides, but it'd be great if we could find it.
good post 42. I love the cats, you know? everyone here does. everyone's just trying to ftb in their own way.
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Also, both sides have a point in this debate. There are absolutely good reasons to be pissed off--at JC, Frank, everyone--about how everything went down, and it's acceptable to vent that anger towards the people in charge. That said, constantly talking about it is gonna get old really quickly (and already has for some). Not sure how a happy medium can be established between the two sides, but it'd be great if we could find it.
I foresee that once school and sports start there'll be many more opportunities for people to vent the anger towards the people in charge than there are now. Then the talk here can be about the funny methods of venting which will be more :D than the underlying anger. So that'll be good.
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my suggestion would be this...
don't turn every bball thread into a currie/frank/weber thread. i've been guilty of this. i'll stop. this thread was going to be one and it was supposed to be one. leave the other bball threads out if it.
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i'll stop.
never stop. never forgive.
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Read it. You don't like Currie. Got it. You should have been more specific in you original comment, as there are many people who work at K-State that are not named John Currie.
i don't think i even posted in the thread. you might want to reread it (being specific, trim's post, being more specific, who is kstate, who works for kstate and the distinction between them), as you evidently somehow missed the point.
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i'll stop.
never stop. never forgive.
and NEVER SURRENDER!
And when the night is cold and dark
You can see, you can see light
No one can take away your right
To fight and to never surrender
To never surrender
Oh, time is all we're asking for
To never surrender
Oh, oh, you can never surrender
Time is all you're asking for
Stand your ground, never surrender
Oh, oh, oh, oh, I said
You never surrender, oh
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dobber, shut up.
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Well if this is the "official" Frank/BW/JC thread...
@Trim
I see.
I haven't been posting that long, here's my 2 cents fwiw (which is probably less than 2 cents)...
1) Frank Martin inherited a team and recruits. Damn good ones, too. Just like oscar has inherited/is inheriting players.
2) Their win percentage is pretty comparable.
3) BW has more experience coaching college basketball.
4) I legitimately think that BW is a pretty good fit for K-State.
And I will mention that the last head coach we had that coached at So. Illinois turned out pretty good. Although that coach has no real connection to the current. I'm just hoping that the basketball gods shine their light on our little coliseum on the prairie once again.
I like Currie. Why? $$$. I say that being fully aware of the backlash you guys can dish out.
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I really like our supporting staff (based entirely off twitter and kstatesports vids). I'm hoping that weber is just an icecream man and figurehead and the rest of the staff is our real coach.
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Nobody concerned with the future success of Kansas State basketball would've hired oscar Weber. #burnitdown
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Well if this is the "official" Frank/BW/JC thread...
@Trim
I see.
I haven't been posting that long, here's my 2 cents fwiw (which is probably less than 2 cents)...
1) Frank Martin inherited a team and recruits. Damn good ones, too. Just like oscar has inherited/is inheriting players.
2) Their win percentage is pretty comparable.
3) BW has more experience coaching college basketball.
4) I legitimately think that BW is a pretty good fit for K-State.
And I will mention that the last head coach we had that coached at So. Illinois turned out pretty good. Although that coach has no real connection to the current. I'm just hoping that the basketball gods shine their light on our little coliseum on the prairie once again.
I like Currie. Why? $$$. I say that being fully aware of the backlash you guys can dish out.
1) Frank had a little something to do w/that. Frank has no history of taking some other dude's guys that he had nothing to do with, coasting on them for a little bit, and then failing. oscar does.
2) Yep, Weber built himself a nice safety net of a W-L record before torpedoing Illinois.
3) Sure. Do not give a eff. Frank has experience making us all happy and winning games here at K-State where it hadn't been done in a really long time, but that's not necessarily important under this regime.
4) You've been talking to Gene Keady haven't you? Either way, why? I'm K-State, and I think oscar Weber's a dork who, as rising star SPBT would say, can get mumped.
And I will mention I don't know who the eff you're talking about or what relevance that would have, which I see you acknowledged. I don't like hoping, I like winning. We had that.
If you're saying you think Currie would be a good financial adviser or CFO with your "$$$," great. Me, Frank and OBz don't like him because he's a douche and he's rough ridin' with our K-State.
But hey, everyone's entitled to their opinion. :thumbs:
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Well if this is the "official" Frank/BW/JC thread...
@Trim
I see.
I haven't been posting that long, here's my 2 cents fwiw (which is probably less than 2 cents)...
1) Frank Martin inherited a team and recruits. Damn good ones, too. Just like oscar has inherited/is inheriting players.
2) Their win percentage is pretty comparable.
3) BW has more experience coaching college basketball.
4) I legitimately think that BW is a pretty good fit for K-State.
And I will mention that the last head coach we had that coached at So. Illinois turned out pretty good. Although that coach has no real connection to the current. I'm just hoping that the basketball gods shine their light on our little coliseum on the prairie once again.
I like Currie. Why? $$$. I say that being fully aware of the backlash you guys can dish out.
1) Frank had a little something to do w/that. Frank has no history of taking some other dude's guys that he had nothing to do with, coasting on them for a little bit, and then failing. oscar does.
2) Yep, Weber built himself a nice safety net of a W-L record before torpedoing Illinois.
3) Sure. Do not give a eff. Frank has experience making us all happy and winning games here at K-State where it hadn't been done in a really long time, but that's not necessarily important under this regime.
4) You've been talking to Gene Keady haven't you? Either way, why? I'm K-State, and I think oscar Weber's a dork who, as rising star SPBT would say, can get mumped.
And I will mention I don't know who the eff you're talking about or what relevance that would have, which I see you acknowledged. I don't like hoping, I like winning. We had that.
If you're saying you think Currie would be a good financial adviser or CFO with your "$$$," great. Me, Frank and OBz don't like him because he's a douche and he's rough ridin' with our K-State.
But hey, everyone's entitled to their opinion. :thumbs:
Haha, yeah, Gene Keady is a pretty smart guy.
The coach I was referencing was Jack Hartman.
Sooooooo... what makes you K-State...? Honest question.
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Well if this is the "official" Frank/BW/JC thread...
@Trim
I see.
I haven't been posting that long, here's my 2 cents fwiw (which is probably less than 2 cents)...
1) Frank Martin inherited a team and recruits. Damn good ones, too. Just like oscar has inherited/is inheriting players.
2) Their win percentage is pretty comparable.
3) BW has more experience coaching college basketball.
4) I legitimately think that BW is a pretty good fit for K-State.
And I will mention that the last head coach we had that coached at So. Illinois turned out pretty good. Although that coach has no real connection to the current. I'm just hoping that the basketball gods shine their light on our little coliseum on the prairie once again.
I like Currie. Why? $$$. I say that being fully aware of the backlash you guys can dish out.
1) Frank had a little something to do w/that. Frank has no history of taking some other dude's guys that he had nothing to do with, coasting on them for a little bit, and then failing. oscar does.
2) Yep, Weber built himself a nice safety net of a W-L record before torpedoing Illinois.
3) Sure. Do not give a eff. Frank has experience making us all happy and winning games here at K-State where it hadn't been done in a really long time, but that's not necessarily important under this regime.
4) You've been talking to Gene Keady haven't you? Either way, why? I'm K-State, and I think oscar Weber's a dork who, as rising star SPBT would say, can get mumped.
And I will mention I don't know who the eff you're talking about or what relevance that would have, which I see you acknowledged. I don't like hoping, I like winning. We had that.
If you're saying you think Currie would be a good financial adviser or CFO with your "$$$," great. Me, Frank and OBz don't like him because he's a douche and he's rough ridin' with our K-State.
But hey, everyone's entitled to their opinion. :thumbs:
Haha, yeah, Gene Keady is a pretty smart guy.
The coach I was referencing was Jack Hartman.
Sooooooo... what makes you K-State...? Honest question.
I hate Gene Keady. He deserves a fair amount of blame.
Oh, Jack. A lot of us here know his granddaughter. I bet she's against Currie on all this too.
My EMAW.
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I hate Gene Keady. He deserves a fair amount of blame.
Oh, Jack. A lot of us here know his granddaughter. I bet she's against Currie on all this too.
My EMAW.
Gene Keady isn't the greatest coach. But he does know basketball pretty well.
I'm going to assume from now on that you are the embodiment of EMAW.
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Read it. You don't like Currie. Got it. You should have been more specific in you original comment, as there are many people who work at K-State that are not named John Currie.
i don't think i even posted in the thread. you might want to reread it (being specific, trim's post, being more specific, who is kstate, who works for kstate and the distinction between them), as you evidently somehow missed the point.
I read it. Read the parts you are referencing. So you believe that one can only "be ksu" if they have a degree from there, correct? So you really think no one working in Athletics has a degree from ksu and wishes the best for them?
Your problem is with JC. I think it is misguided and weird, as I have said many times.
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Gene Keady isn't the greatest coach. But he does know basketball pretty well.
I'm going to assume from now on that you are the embodiment of EMAW.
I don't have an exact timetable down - it gets confusing with the trips to dallas airport hotels thrown in there - but he was def waving the towel for Frank out, oscar in before Frank was officially gone (there may have been a pretty solid understanding by Frank that he wasn't allowed back and would obviously be taking another position imminently) and as a K-Stater, he should've been doing everything in his power to see to it that the mistake was fixed before it was too late. Instead, he advocated for his unemployed boy to get a job he doesn't deserve at the detriment of his alma mater. Oh man, if there's some sort of "welcome back, gene" thing at a game this year...
FFF will always be the embodiment of EMAW, but I think quite a few people here carry enough of it to truly represent K-State. Certainly much, much more than those who've turned their backs on it for their own gain or people passing through and using it on their way to perceived bigger things.
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FFF will always be the embodiment of EMAW
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agree w/ everything trim has said. here's the deal with keady- he does not care about kstate. he doesn't. i know. he played fball at kstate 50 years ago but he does not and will not give back to the university in any way. like trim said, he got his friend a job. nothing more and nothing less. good for him, he's a good friend. eff him though because he's a shitty alum.
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I read it. Read the parts you are referencing. So you believe that one can only "be ksu" if they have a degree from there, correct? So you really think no one working in Athletics has a degree from ksu and wishes the best for them?
Your problem is with JC. I think it is misguided and weird, as I have said many times.
i don't think having a degree from kstate has anything to do with it. i'm a townie and could give a eff about the athletics of the other universities i attended. nobody is more kstate than the towniebred.
i don't think that nobody in the kstate ad wishes the best for kstate, i also don't think currie is the sole problem, perhaps not even the principle problem. i do think he was principally responsible for not retaining one of the best coaches kstate has ever had, and i will never forgive him for that, nor should anyone else. it is unforgivable.
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All I said is that I think oscar is a good fit for K-State. And that Gene Keady is pretty smart, and knows basketball. I didn't make that connection. I agree with Keady that Weber is a good fit, but he isn't the reason I think that.
Honestly, I think Weber relates well to Kansans. I think he can relate to the players (granted, not like Martin could with Hispanic players). He is well spoken. He is an x's and o's coach. He talks about hard nosed defense. He seems passionate. He seems to care about more than just basketball.
I don't know. Maybe it's just lip service. Maybe he just reminds me of a lot of the coaches I admire in the way he presents himself. We'll find out.
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Honestly, I think Weber relates well to Kansans. I think he can relate to the players (granted, not like Martin could with Hispanic players). He is well spoken. He is an x's and o's coach. He talks about hard nosed defense. He seems passionate. He seems to care about more than just basketball.
I don't know. Maybe it's just lip service. Maybe he just reminds me of a lot of the coaches I admire in the way he presents himself. We'll find out.
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Honestly, I think Weber relates well to Kansans. I think he can relate to the players (granted, not like Martin could with Hispanic players). He is well spoken. He is an x's and o's coach. He talks about hard nosed defense. He seems passionate. He seems to care about more than just basketball.
I don't know. Maybe it's just lip service. Maybe he just reminds me of a lot of the coaches I admire in the way he presents himself. We'll find out.
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What about that would make him not be a good fit for K-State?
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All I said is that I think oscar is a good fit for K-State. And that Gene Keady is pretty smart, and knows basketball. I didn't make that connection. I agree with Keady that Weber is a good fit, but he isn't the reason I think that.
Honestly, I think Weber relates well to Kansans. I think he can relate to the players (granted, not like Martin could with Hispanic players). He is well spoken. He is an x's and o's coach. He talks about hard nosed defense. He seems passionate. He seems to care about more than just basketball.
I don't know. Maybe it's just lip service. Maybe he just reminds me of a lot of the coaches I admire in the way he presents himself. We'll find out.
well he wasn't a good fit for Illinois. they fired him. but then again they care about having a good basketball team so you might be right. he might be a good fit for kstate.
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well he wasn't a good fit for Illinois. they fired him. but then again they care about having a good basketball team so you might be right. he might be a good fit for kstate.
I have a friend who goes to Illinois and was pretty upset about Weber leaving. He says he's not the only one either.
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Honestly, I think Weber relates well to Kansans. I think he can relate to the players (granted, not like Martin could with Hispanic players). He is well spoken. He is an x's and o's coach. He talks about hard nosed defense. He seems passionate. He seems to care about more than just basketball.
I don't know. Maybe it's just lip service. Maybe he just reminds me of a lot of the coaches I admire in the way he presents himself. We'll find out.
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What about that would make him not be a good fit for K-State?
Well, what are we talking about?
Relating to Kansans? Like mingling well at Catbackers and stuff? Frank was a hit at those things even among the most bigoted of the racists, so long as he won, and he did. oscar didn't seem to be well-liked by his constituency and I don't think there's that much demographic difference between the two. It was probably the losing.
Relating to players? DNGAF about Will Spradling's feelings. We're OK with having Hispanic players on the team here. In fact, goEMAW is a prouds sponsor of La Hacienda (all of them).
Well-spoken? LOL. Somebody link the presser (edited version or our thread mocking it). Or maybe just felix rex's sig.
X's and O's? The ones he implemented to lead Illinois to crap with relatively talented players?
Talking about hard-nosed defense? Sweet. Talk your ass off, oscar. I'll remember when we played it.
Seems to care about more than just basketball? I agree. That makes him a good fit as K-State hoops coach? I guess so under this AD.
We don't have to find out. We've got records and video and accountings of how things went.
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well he wasn't a good fit for Illinois. they fired him. but then again they care about having a good basketball team so you might be right. he might be a good fit for kstate.
I have a friend who goes to Illinois and was pretty upset about Weber leaving. He says he's not the only one either.
Get them all to post here and/or pak with us in Chicago next week.
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It really is sad for me right now . . . seeing that just like on Wabash during Snyder I (and now), we've got a lot of people who are bigger fans of the coach than they are of K-State.
Sad . . . really.
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It really is sad for me right now . . . seeing that just like on Wabash during Snyder I (and now), we've got a lot of people who are bigger fans of the coach than they are of K-State.
Sad . . . really.
What can I tell you Dax? Winning all those games was fun as eff.
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All I said is that I think oscar is a good fit for K-State. And that Gene Keady is pretty smart, and knows basketball. I didn't make that connection. I agree with Keady that Weber is a good fit, but he isn't the reason I think that.
Honestly, I think Weber relates well to Kansans. I think he can relate to the players (granted, not like Martin could with Hispanic players). He is well spoken. He is an x's and o's coach. He talks about hard nosed defense. He seems passionate. He seems to care about more than just basketball.
I don't know. Maybe it's just lip service. Maybe he just reminds me of a lot of the coaches I admire in the way he presents himself. We'll find out.
Mancattanite logic:
White, goofy, socially awkward = relates well with Kansans.
Bad track record of coaching success = good fit for Kansas State
Cuban origin, grew up poor = relates well with Hispanic players
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It really is sad for me right now . . . seeing that just like on Wabash during Snyder I (and now), we've got a lot of people who are bigger fans of the coach than they are of K-State.
Sad . . . really.
What can I tell you Dax? Winning all those games was fun as eff.
Sure was . . . it was great to see KANSAS STATE UNIVERSITY BASKETBALL win many games.
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It really is sad for me right now . . . seeing that just like on Wabash during Snyder I (and now), we've got a lot of people who are bigger fans of the coach than they are of K-State.
Sad . . . really.
What can I tell you Dax? Winning all those games was fun as eff.
Sure was . . . it was great to see KANSAS STATE UNIVERSITY BASKETBALL win many games.
So true. No one would be upset if we thought we had an equal or better chance of doing that after what happened this spring, but we don't, so we are.
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All I said is that I think oscar is a good fit for K-State. And that Gene Keady is pretty smart, and knows basketball. I didn't make that connection. I agree with Keady that Weber is a good fit, but he isn't the reason I think that.
Honestly, I think Weber relates well to Kansans. I think he can relate to the players (granted, not like Martin could with Hispanic players). He is well spoken. He is an x's and o's coach. He talks about hard nosed defense. He seems passionate. He seems to care about more than just basketball.
I don't know. Maybe it's just lip service. Maybe he just reminds me of a lot of the coaches I admire in the way he presents himself. We'll find out.
Mancattanite logic:
White, goofy, socially awkward = relates well with Kansans.
Bad track record of coaching success = good fit for Kansas State
Cuban origin, grew up poor = relates well with Hispanic players
Woah there. Because Frank Martin is Cuban he relates well to Hispanic players. Yes. That was no secret during his time here that he had a definite recruiting edge when recruiting Hispanic players. He did also did other things well.
From what I have seen, it seems that the players are very receptive to BW. It also seems that the media and people in general around K-State are pretty receptive to him. He is good at being around people. And let's be honest, Frank was not.
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It really is sad for me right now . . . seeing that just like on Wabash during Snyder I (and now), we've got a lot of people who are bigger fans of the coach than they are of K-State.
Sad . . . really.
What can I tell you Dax? Winning all those games was fun as eff.
Sure was . . . it was great to see KANSAS STATE UNIVERSITY BASKETBALL win many games.
Agreed. Maybe one day, again.
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You guys act like what Frank did was unmatched in the history of K-State Basketball.
The NCAA tourney is 64 teams . . . what Frank did should be the minimum expectation of any coach of K-State Men's Basketball. Frank Martin put exactly ZERO trophies of substance in the K-State trophy case. He got close once. Hey great job Frank . . . you got close.
If oscar Weber does not meet the minimum base line of what K-State basketball should do, than both he and John Currie (if he's even still here, which is doubtful) should be fired in short order.
But nothing was going to change Frank Martin getting out when he did, because Frank realized that he had burned down so many bridges it was beyond recovery.
In addition the majority of "choices" who the Too Cool for Schoolers wanted to replace Frank were 1: NEVER GOING TO COME TO K-STATE or 2: WOULD HAVE BLOWN ASS IF THEY DID.
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He is good at being around people. And let's be honest, Frank was not.
What people?
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You guys act like what Frank did was unmatched in the history of K-State Basketball.
The NCAA tourney is 64 teams . . . what Frank did should be the minimum expectation of any coach of K-State Men's Basketball. Frank Martin put exactly ZERO trophies of substance in the K-State trophy case. He got close once. Hey great job Frank . . . you got close.
If oscar Weber does not meet the minimum base line of what K-State basketball should do, than both he and John Currie (if he's even still here, which is doubtful) should be fired in short order.
But nothing was going to change Frank Martin getting out when he did, because Frank realized that he had burned down so many bridges it was beyond recovery.
For the purposes of this post, I'm 35, Dax.
The history of K-State college basketball for quite a few people here is Altman, Asbury, Wooldridge, Huggins, Frank, Weber. One era is not like the others. Does that help explain why K-State basketball fans are so upset about what we had and - blame everyone, it doesn't matter - lost?
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You guys act like what Frank did was unmatched in the history of K-State Basketball.
The NCAA tourney is 64 teams . . . what Frank did should be the minimum expectation of any coach of K-State Men's Basketball. Frank Martin put exactly ZERO trophies of substance in the K-State trophy case. He got close once. Hey great job Frank . . . you got close.
If oscar Weber does not meet the minimum base line of what K-State basketball should do, than both he and John Currie (if he's even still here, which is doubtful) should be fired in short order.
But nothing was going to change Frank Martin getting out when he did, because Frank realized that he had burned down so many bridges it was beyond recovery.
In addition the majority of "choices" who the Too Cool for Schoolers wanted to replace Frank were 1: NEVER GOING TO COME TO K-STATE or 2: WOULD HAVE BLOWN ASS IF THEY DID.
I'd have been happier with literally dozens of unknown, unproven assistants.
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Hey great, you would have been "happier" . . . and then you would have realized that 99.9% of the "unknown assistants" were in way over their head and didn't have the first effing clue.
Daris . . . the majority of those coaches blew ass . . . I wanted all but 2 of them fired. I will want oscar Weber fired as well if he doesn't meet the minimum expectations.
But once again, Frank wasn't sticking around because he was going nowhere with his recruiting at K-State and he knew it. Pretty smart move by Frank considering by 2014 or 2015 at the very latest, he would have been fired.
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Hey Frank Martin First Fans . . . enjoy rocking the Under Armour!!
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Under Armour . . . :lol:
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yeah, this place is insufferable at times
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For the record, I renewed my tickets this year. I know a couple that did not, which is why I started this thread.
My expectations for this upcoming season are results similar to last year's: 22-11 or thereabouts, and 10-8 in conference. Regardless of what happens, I'll be in my seats every game, just like always.
Last year, we used a couple of miracle upsets at BU and at MU to secure our spot in the tourney. If we had lost one of those, we'd have been 9-9 in conf and sitting on the bubble. If we had lost both, we would have been NIT bound. I don't expect oscar to lead us to some monster road wins like that, but I'm hoping we'll take better care of our home floor to offset it.
Next year, once Rodney and JO have graduated, I think our roster is the epitome of an NIT-caliber team. A good PG in Angel, an undersized big man in Gipson, and a smart plucky white guy in Spradling. I don't really know what to expect from oscar as he attempts to recruit to Manhattan. Hopefully, the completed BTF will help with that. He's going to have (at least) 4 scholarships to offer and he's going to have to hit on at least a couple of those if we're going to maintain the level of success we've had the last few years. He's not inheriting Beasley, Walker and Pullen, so he's not going to have it as easy as Frank did. Is he up to the challenge? For better or worse, we're going to find out.
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Hey Frank Martin First Fans . . . enjoy rocking the Under Armour!!
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Under Armour . . . :lol:
Nobody here is a Frank Martin First fan, Dax. Although I have a S.Carolina ID and "Big male genitals Fan" cup from years ago when I was at a week-long class there.
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But once again, Frank wasn't sticking around because he was going nowhere with his recruiting at K-State and he knew it. Pretty smart move by Frank considering by 2014 or 2015 at the very latest, he would have been fired.
Frank got fired this year.
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Frank didn't get fired from crap. I rough ridin' hate that oscar Weber is our coach but why some of you are turning that into a reason to suck that retards dick is beyond me.
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Frank didn't get fired from crap. I rough ridin' hate that oscar Weber is our coach but why some of you are turning that into a reason to suck that retards dick is beyond me.
Only when oscar support'rs go with a "better than Frank" argument. I don't know why it gets viewed as "Frank First" or sucking his dick instead of liking winning and wanting to continue (this would encompass hiring Gottlieb too (sucking Gottlieb's dick?)).
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Frank left KState. He didn't have to. He may have put himself in a position that he had to but he knew what he was doing. Even he's not that stupid.
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Frank left KState. He didn't have to. He may have put himself in a position that he had to but he knew what he was doing. Even he's not that stupid.
Well, whoever we want to blame, Frank's gone. So that's that. Then Currie mumped us with Weber and tried to tell us life was better. Frank's not a factor in that rough ridin' of EMAW.
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Can we get the behind the scene story on the whole frank thing please?
Isn't it time?
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Screw bob Huggins but he made a smart move in leaving. I take solace in the fact that the worst decision frank ever made was to leave and he knows it. He mumped his career for the rest of his life and he is regretting it and will never stop. I take solace in it because eff frank martin. And eff John currie. And eff both of their parents or whoever raised them for not raising children that could have functioning interpersonal relationships. Luckily neither of those fucks are KState.
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Frank left KState. He didn't have to. He may have put himself in a position that he had to but he knew what he was doing. Even he's not that stupid.
Well, whoever we want to blame, Frank's gone. So that's that. Then Currie mumped us with Weber and tried to tell us life was better. Frank's not a factor in that rough ridin' of EMAW.
I can hate plenty of people at once. I'll always be most vocal about the one people are trying to make a martyr of though.
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trying to make a martyr of though.
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I'll be most vocal about the one that mumped us most, hardest and still can.
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I'll try to talk him out of it
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I am not mad at k-state basketball because Frank left. I am full on the Frank Martin hate wagon, and I hope he never succeeds at anything again. I am mad because k-state basketball has been really fun to watch and follow for the past 6 years, and now it isn't. I barely ever come to this board anymore. I'll check out the recruiting thread and just get depressed knowing that it really doesn't matter who we get, because oscar weber is not a winner. He is not going to win us anything ever. I imagine us playing an excruciatingly boring brand of basketball, then we have to look at this loser's face after we lose and are bored. And the idiots that say "he hasn't coached a game here, yet" need to shut up and just stop saying that. Just because he hasn't lost his games in Manhattan, ks does not mean that his games at Illinois don't count. He's not inheriting a team as good as the one he got at Illinois. Sweet 16 is the ceiling for this team when coached by oscar weber, and that makes me sad. Mainly for the players, because they deserve better.
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Frank left KState. He didn't have to. He may have put himself in a position that he had to but he knew what he was doing. Even he's not that stupid.
Well, whoever we want to blame, Frank's gone. So that's that. Then Currie mumped us with Weber and tried to tell us life was better. Frank's not a factor in that rough ridin' of EMAW.
I can hate plenty of people at once. I'll always be most vocal about the one people are trying to make a martyr of though.
Frank will be coaching at gym near dobber. Maybe I can don a gamecock shirt and then PI him the entire game as his team is getting destroyed. Then, as I leave the gym, I'll take off the gamecock shirt revealing a beautiful purple shirt and say something really snarky as I walk past Frank. Would that help you, sd?
Trim, you will need to help me with the PI'ing.
NOTE: I am not trying to turn into fanning. This is a one time deal where I will do the biding of the mods on this site simply due to my proximity.
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I am mad because k-state basketball has been really fun to watch and follow for the past 6 years, and now it isn't.
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Frank will be coaching at gym near dobber. Maybe I can don a gamecock shirt and then PI him the entire game as his team is getting destroyed. Then, as I leave the gym, I'll take off the gamecock shirt revealing a beautiful purple shirt and say something really snarky as I walk past Frank. Would that help you, sd?
Trim, you will need to help me with the PI'ing.
NOTE: I am not trying to turn into fanning. This is a one time deal where I will do the biding of the mods on this site simply due to my proximity.
fanning wouldn't have the ball to do anything of the sort.
As for what to say, maybe find out who his favorite guy on the new squad is and nonchalantly tell him that he won't be playing next game.
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For the record, I renewed my tickets this year. I know a couple that did not, which is why I started this thread.
My expectations for this upcoming season are results similar to last year's: 22-11 or thereabouts, and 10-8 in conference. Regardless of what happens, I'll be in my seats every game, just like always.
Last year, we used a couple of miracle upsets at BU and at MU to secure our spot in the tourney. If we had lost one of those, we'd have been 9-9 in conf and sitting on the bubble. If we had lost both, we would have been NIT bound. I don't expect oscar to lead us to some monster road wins like that, but I'm hoping we'll take better care of our home floor to offset it.
Next year, once Rodney and JO have graduated, I think our roster is the epitome of an NIT-caliber team. A good PG in Angel, an undersized big man in Gipson, and a smart plucky white guy in Spradling. I don't really know what to expect from oscar as he attempts to recruit to Manhattan. Hopefully, the completed BTF will help with that. He's going to have (at least) 4 scholarships to offer and he's going to have to hit on at least a couple of those if we're going to maintain the level of success we've had the last few years. He's not inheriting Beasley, Walker and Pullen, so he's not going to have it as easy as Frank did. Is he up to the challenge? For better or worse, we're going to find out.
My response started this firestorm. I agree with many things you said. I'll still be at a few weekend games and the @ games in Oklahoma. Much of your post is why I didn't renew mine. I always bought season tickets as an investment to garuntee I always had seats in case KSU ever made a jump to a level that resulted in consistent sellouts and it would be advantageous to have season tickets over buying singles to the games I can make. The oscar hire shows me that our AD doesn't view KSU as able to make that jump as oscar has proven he isn't that level of coach. I'll still come to the same number of games, but I won't overpay for that investment as it won't be worth it. I'll be able to easily get $50 tickets to the games I can make it to for the next 3-5 years. I won't change my Ahearn donation level, i'll just re-allocate to try and get in a better section for FB.
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As for what to say, maybe find out who his favorite guy on the new squad is and nonchalantly tell him that he won't be playing next game.
You have a gift.
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All I said is that I think oscar is a good fit for K-State. And that Gene Keady is pretty smart, and knows basketball. I didn't make that connection. I agree with Keady that Weber is a good fit, but he isn't the reason I think that.
Honestly, I think Weber relates well to Kansans. I think he can relate to the players (granted, not like Martin could with Hispanic players). He is well spoken. He is an x's and o's coach. He talks about hard nosed defense. He seems passionate. He seems to care about more than just basketball.
I don't know. Maybe it's just lip service. Maybe he just reminds me of a lot of the coaches I admire in the way he presents himself. We'll find out.
Holy eff, I mean tuck, rough ridin' tuck. What in the blue hell does "relates well to Kansans" mean? Sounds like code talk. I'll continue to read the thread now in hopes that 5 minutes after you posted this you realized how incredibly mumped it sounds.
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Lot of FP's in the K-State fanbase, "oh, oh, its not gonna be any fun without Frank around . . . it's not fun anymore".
How the eff can you say that?
oscar may suck balls, but we won't know that for awhile now will we?
oscar Weber: Final Four Trophies, Conference Championship Trophies
Frank Martin: One really good season, a few other nice ones, no trophies of significance . . . and smart enough to recognize that behind him was the Hindenburg and ahead was a pink slip if he stayed.
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After Snyder 2011, I can't trust this board's Weber predictions.
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Lot of FP's in the K-State fanbase, "oh, oh, its not gonna be any fun without Frank around . . . it's not fun anymore".
How the eff can you say that?
oscar may suck balls, but we won't know that for awhile now will we?
oscar Weber: Final Four Trophies, Conference Championship Trophies
Frank Martin: One really good season, a few other nice ones, no trophies of significance . . . and smart enough to recognize that behind him was the Hindenburg and ahead was a pink slip if he stayed.
Don't forget oscar's staggering career wins lead.
#Gottlieb4KSU
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dax, do you use the name Fake Sugar Dick when you post in the DK Dome?
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I'll continue to read the thread now in hopes that 5 minutes after you posted this you realized how incredibly mumped it sounds.
:lol:
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After Snyder 2011, I can't trust this board's Weber predictions.
Fwiw, I don't think anyone said that Snyder was a terrible coach, they just didn't want a guy that has an expiration date. If Snyder said he was coming back to coach until he dies, then it would be different than coming back to calm the waters.
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It really is sad for me right now . . . seeing that just like on Wabash during Snyder I (and now), we've got a lot of people who are bigger fans of the coach than they are of K-State.
Sad . . . really.
These threads would be much better without strawman arguments and intellectual dishonesty. I know this posting style is a trademark of yours but it sidetracks discussions and forces people to repeat basic arguments that should really go left unsaid.
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Frank will be coaching at gym near dobber. Maybe I can don a gamecock shirt and then PI him the entire game as his team is getting destroyed. Then, as I leave the gym, I'll take off the gamecock shirt revealing a beautiful purple shirt and say something really snarky as I walk past Frank. Would that help you, sd?
Trim, you will need to help me with the PI'ing.
NOTE: I am not trying to turn into fanning. This is a one time deal where I will do the biding of the mods on this site simply due to my proximity.
fanning wouldn't have the ball to do anything of the sort.
As for what to say, maybe find out who his favorite guy on the new squad is and nonchalantly tell him that he won't be playing next game.
It's cause I'm too nice. You've seen my attempt at PI'ing. I don't like conflict and that's what gets Trim up in the morning.
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It really is sad for me right now . . . seeing that just like on Wabash during Snyder I (and now), we've got a lot of people who are bigger fans of the coach than they are of K-State.
Sad . . . really.
These threads would be much better without strawman arguments and intellectual dishonesty. I know this posting style is a trademark of yours but it sidetracks discussions and forces people to repeat basic arguments that should really go left unsaid.
Oh Bull$hit . . . this board over the last several months is Wabash Circa 2005 regarding Snyder.
The occasional, "oh well Eff Frank" post doesn't change the basic reality.
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After Snyder 2011, I can't trust this board's Weber predictions.
Fwiw, I don't think anyone said that Snyder was a terrible coach, they just didn't want a guy that has an expiration date. If Snyder said he was coming back to coach until he dies, then it would be different than coming back to calm the waters.
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The large majority here thought he would be mediocre at best. Some of the most vocal credited his successes to his former assistants.
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Frank will be coaching at gym near dobber. Maybe I can don a gamecock shirt and then PI him the entire game as his team is getting destroyed. Then, as I leave the gym, I'll take off the gamecock shirt revealing a beautiful purple shirt and say something really snarky as I walk past Frank. Would that help you, sd?
Trim, you will need to help me with the PI'ing.
NOTE: I am not trying to turn into fanning. This is a one time deal where I will do the biding of the mods on this site simply due to my proximity.
fanning wouldn't have the ball to do anything of the sort.
As for what to say, maybe find out who his favorite guy on the new squad is and nonchalantly tell him that he won't be playing next game.
It's cause I'm too nice. You've seen my attempt at PI'ing. I don't like conflict and that's what gets Trim up in the morning.
It was a ball joke, you dumbass.
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Good god I love everyone here, especially Pete, but eff me. I mean we've bitched for 5 straight months about this. Can we take a break? Just give it one rough ridin' season, for christ sake. I feel like we're having the same conversation over, and over, and over... Yes proven loser, chicken nuggets, dumbass, and more. He's also proven to be a winner with other coaches players. Can I atleast enjoy this season before we #burnitdown? Or are we going to have the same convo on every thread, every day? Cause if so, eff it, I might give kstatefans a try again.
If you don't want to have the conversation over and over don't participate in the conversations. It seems easy enough to me.
And captain, thanks again for your input in these threads.
_FAN with an appearance!! :excited: Must be close to football season! :dance:
Yeah, weird. His first post in a decade and of course it's to retaliate me. Just when you think you know someone. Smh.
It's all good fanning.
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It really is sad for me right now . . . seeing that just like on Wabash during Snyder I (and now), we've got a lot of people who are bigger fans of the coach than they are of K-State.
Sad . . . really.
These threads would be much better without strawman arguments and intellectual dishonesty. I know this posting style is a trademark of yours but it sidetracks discussions and forces people to repeat basic arguments that should really go left unsaid.
Oh Bull$hit . . . this board over the last several months is Wabash Circa 2005 regarding Snyder.
The occasional, "oh well Eff Frank" post doesn't change the basic reality.
I don't know a damn thing about Wabash Station circa 2005, what you and I both know is that this thread or any similar thread doesn't exist on this board if Doug Gottlieb or any other several dozen men were named head coach. So for the sake of keeping things moving please spare all of us the you love Frank more than K-State bullshit. Hating the Weber hire has dick to do with Frank Martin and you know it.
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It really is sad for me right now . . . seeing that just like on Wabash during Snyder I (and now), we've got a lot of people who are bigger fans of the coach than they are of K-State.
Sad . . . really.
These threads would be much better without strawman arguments and intellectual dishonesty. I know this posting style is a trademark of yours but it sidetracks discussions and forces people to repeat basic arguments that should really go left unsaid.
Oh Bull$hit . . . this board over the last several months is Wabash Circa 2005 regarding Snyder.
The occasional, "oh well Eff Frank" post doesn't change the basic reality.
I don't know a damn thing about Wabash Station circa 2005, what you and I both know is that this thread or any similar thread doesn't exist on this board if Doug Gottlieb or any other several dozen men were named head coach. So for the sake of keeping things moving please spare all of us the you love Frank more than K-State bullshit. Hating the Weber hire has dick to do with Frank Martin and you know it.
I think that was the sentence Wikipedia used on the "Examples of Intellectual Dishonesty" page.
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All I said is that I think oscar is a good fit for K-State. And that Gene Keady is pretty smart, and knows basketball. I didn't make that connection. I agree with Keady that Weber is a good fit, but he isn't the reason I think that.
Honestly, I think Weber relates well to Kansans. I think he can relate to the players (granted, not like Martin could with Hispanic players). He is well spoken. He is an x's and o's coach. He talks about hard nosed defense. He seems passionate. He seems to care about more than just basketball.
I don't know. Maybe it's just lip service. Maybe he just reminds me of a lot of the coaches I admire in the way he presents himself. We'll find out.
Holy eff, I mean tuck, rough ridin' tuck. What in the blue hell does "relates well to Kansans" mean? Sounds like code talk. I'll continue to read the thread now in hopes that 5 minutes after you posted this you realized how incredibly mumped it sounds.
Who do you think an alum would find easier to talk to? Frank or Weber? Honestly... don't try to make something that it isn't.
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All I said is that I think oscar is a good fit for K-State. And that Gene Keady is pretty smart, and knows basketball. I didn't make that connection. I agree with Keady that Weber is a good fit, but he isn't the reason I think that.
Honestly, I think Weber relates well to Kansans. I think he can relate to the players (granted, not like Martin could with Hispanic players). He is well spoken. He is an x's and o's coach. He talks about hard nosed defense. He seems passionate. He seems to care about more than just basketball.
I don't know. Maybe it's just lip service. Maybe he just reminds me of a lot of the coaches I admire in the way he presents himself. We'll find out.
Holy eff, I mean tuck, rough ridin' tuck. What in the blue hell does "relates well to Kansans" mean? Sounds like code talk. I'll continue to read the thread now in hopes that 5 minutes after you posted this you realized how incredibly mumped it sounds.
Who do you think an alum would find easier to talk to? Frank or Weber? Honestly... don't try to make something that it isn't.
I'm an alum, lots of alums on this board. I found it very easy to talk to Frank. Haven't had a chance to talk to Weber yet though. We shall see. We shall see. Also, who gives a eff?
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All I said is that I think oscar is a good fit for K-State. And that Gene Keady is pretty smart, and knows basketball. I didn't make that connection. I agree with Keady that Weber is a good fit, but he isn't the reason I think that.
Honestly, I think Weber relates well to Kansans. I think he can relate to the players (granted, not like Martin could with Hispanic players). He is well spoken. He is an x's and o's coach. He talks about hard nosed defense. He seems passionate. He seems to care about more than just basketball.
I don't know. Maybe it's just lip service. Maybe he just reminds me of a lot of the coaches I admire in the way he presents himself. We'll find out.
Holy eff, I mean tuck, rough ridin' tuck. What in the blue hell does "relates well to Kansans" mean? Sounds like code talk. I'll continue to read the thread now in hopes that 5 minutes after you posted this you realized how incredibly mumped it sounds.
Who do you think an alum would find easier to talk to? Frank or Weber? Honestly... don't try to make something that it isn't.
1. I'm an alum.
2. I loved every one of the multiple conversations I had with Frank.
3. I have not talked to oscar personally, but I don't care for stutterers.
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Also while I'm here I'll take a run at CC because I think he got a pass. His response to Hamburgular was total horse crap and it would be if he worked for the AD or if he slung sandwiches at Jimmy John's. "I shouldn't have said it" is a weak ass tapout that wouldn't have been accepted if it came from anyone else. You shouldn't have thought it. Who the hell appointed you or anyone else the assessor of EMAW based on reasoning for economic decision making? I'm fairly sure you have friends or family who don't have season tickets for some reason or another, do you spend time questioning their allegiance?
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Yeah, Frank was really easy to talk to. Super nice and always tried to act super interested in what you were saying even though it was mostly #fanningstuff. Stupid comparo. Frank was nothing like his on court presence in real life.
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Who do you think an alum would find easier to talk to? Frank or Weber? Honestly... don't try to make something that it isn't.
What on earth?
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All I said is that I think oscar is a good fit for K-State. And that Gene Keady is pretty smart, and knows basketball. I didn't make that connection. I agree with Keady that Weber is a good fit, but he isn't the reason I think that.
Honestly, I think Weber relates well to Kansans. I think he can relate to the players (granted, not like Martin could with Hispanic players). He is well spoken. He is an x's and o's coach. He talks about hard nosed defense. He seems passionate. He seems to care about more than just basketball.
I don't know. Maybe it's just lip service. Maybe he just reminds me of a lot of the coaches I admire in the way he presents himself. We'll find out.
Holy eff, I mean tuck, rough ridin' tuck. What in the blue hell does "relates well to Kansans" mean? Sounds like code talk. I'll continue to read the thread now in hopes that 5 minutes after you posted this you realized how incredibly mumped it sounds.
Who do you think an alum would find easier to talk to? Frank or Weber? Honestly... don't try to make something that it isn't.
I want to know what is leading you to make the conclusion that Weber would be easy to talk to than Frank. Literally every person who I know that has met Frank loved talking to him. Where have you been the last five years the internet is full of articles and antidotes of how great Frank is when dealing with people. No one here knows a damn thing about Webster's interpersonal skills, so why do you keep insisting that oscar relates better to Kansans? Is it because oscar isn't brown? Please tell me why.
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All I said is that I think oscar is a good fit for K-State. And that Gene Keady is pretty smart, and knows basketball. I didn't make that connection. I agree with Keady that Weber is a good fit, but he isn't the reason I think that.
Honestly, I think Weber relates well to Kansans. I think he can relate to the players (granted, not like Martin could with Hispanic players). He is well spoken. He is an x's and o's coach. He talks about hard nosed defense. He seems passionate. He seems to care about more than just basketball.
I don't know. Maybe it's just lip service. Maybe he just reminds me of a lot of the coaches I admire in the way he presents himself. We'll find out.
Holy eff, I mean tuck, rough ridin' tuck. What in the blue hell does "relates well to Kansans" mean? Sounds like code talk. I'll continue to read the thread now in hopes that 5 minutes after you posted this you realized how incredibly mumped it sounds.
Who do you think an alum would find easier to talk to? Frank or Weber? Honestly... don't try to make something that it isn't.
I'm an alum, lots of alums on this board. I found it very easy to talk to Frank. Haven't had a chance to talk to Weber yet though. We shall see. We shall see. Also, who gives a eff?
Actually, you're correct. Just because after loses he seemed like he wanted to melt off reporters faces with his laser vision doesn't mean he can't still talk to an alum. And just because Weber will avoid saying anything controversial doesn't mean he's any better. Some people would find Frank easier to talk to, some will find Weber.
Fwiw, I have said way more to Weber than I ever did to Frank. So I don't have the whole picture I suppose.
It matters only because I see talking to fans and alums as a part of his job. Particularly the part where he helps raise money. Getting people to give money is a useful talent.
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I think that was the sentence Wikipedia used on the "Examples of Intellectual Dishonesty" page.
Real-life honesty:
Days after Frank was gone, I pak'd with wabash909, LSOC, CancerFor3 and Fanning and we were happy as eff about the prospect of getting Gottlieb without giving a second thought to Frank Martin.
A couple days later, the best K-State hoops fans in the world assembled for rallies in support of Doug Gottlieb, again not giving a eff about whatever happened between Frank and Currie.
Argue with whatever imaginary Frank First'rs you want, but realize while some people are pissed about March 27 and before, everyone is pissed about March 27 and after.
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It matters only because I see talking to fans and alums as a part of his job. Particularly the part where he helps raise money. Getting people to give money is a useful talent.
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Man, Mancattanite. Delete account, start a new one, & try again.
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It matters only because I see talking to fans and alums as a part of his job. Particularly the part where he helps raise money. Getting people to give money is a useful talent.
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Some people would find Frank easier to talk to, some will find Weber.
Frank obviously played a helping role in getting K-State basketball some money.
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Man, Mancattanite. Delete account, start a new one, & try again.
Wow... is it really that bad???
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It really is sad for me right now . . . seeing that just like on Wabash during Snyder I (and now), we've got a lot of people who are bigger fans of the coach than they are of K-State.
Sad . . . really.
These threads would be much better without strawman arguments and intellectual dishonesty. I know this posting style is a trademark of yours but it sidetracks discussions and forces people to repeat basic arguments that should really go left unsaid.
Oh Bull$hit . . . this board over the last several months is Wabash Circa 2005 regarding Snyder.
The occasional, "oh well Eff Frank" post doesn't change the basic reality.
I don't know a damn thing about Wabash Station circa 2005, what you and I both know is that this thread or any similar thread doesn't exist on this board if Doug Gottlieb or any other several dozen men were named head coach. So for the sake of keeping things moving please spare all of us the you love Frank more than K-State bullshit. Hating the Weber hire has dick to do with Frank Martin and you know it.
I think that was the sentence Wikipedia used on the "Examples of Intellectual Dishonesty" page.
Dax gonna dax. If you're going to ignore that this board was extremely excited about other candidates then I guess we can consider this conversation over. There you have it folks, posters at goemawtard would have not been happy with any other coach (despite what the search history may tell you) because Frank Martin left.
Nice work Dax we can always count on you to accurately have your finger on the pulse of the thoughts and minds of all of us from a barstool of a BWW in North Carolina.
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Frank obviously played a helping role in getting K-State basketball some money.
Winning basketball did. Frank played a giant role in K-State becoming winning basketball.
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Frank obviously played a helping role in getting K-State basketball some money.
Winning basketball did. Frank played a giant role in K-State becoming winning basketball.
Sorry, that was sarcasm.
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Frank obviously played a helping role in getting K-State basketball some money.
Winning basketball did. Frank played a giant role in K-State becoming winning basketball.
Sorry, that was sarcasm.
You're not the easiest guy to talk to.
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wait, why is everyone still talking about frank? he doesn't coach here, he quit.
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Fwiw, I have said way more to Weber than I ever did to Frank. So I don't have the whole picture I suppose.
This doesn't account for your apparent ignorance of the countless stories from local & national media and the many many message board tales of how great Frank is away from the court with people. Honest question, did you become a K-State basketball fan after Weber was hired?
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Man, Mancattanite. Delete account, start a new one, & try again.
Wow... is it really that bad???
Nah. But the elites will keep coming at you. No matter what you say from now on they're going to PI the crap out of you. Not that I'm speaking from experience or anything. The oscar/frank comparo was a little redic. I mean I'm cheering on that we're wrong about oscar, my best interest is in Kstate bball being successful, not hoping I'm right that oscar is a complete crap face. FWIW it seems oscar doesn't have much for a personality. He acts like he has a secret, a creepy one at that.
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wait, why is everyone still talking about frank? he doesn't coach here, he quit.
Because Dax couldn't deal with the conversation about oscar Weber. If Weber struggles this will be the playbook that those people (really wanted to say YOU PEOPLE) will use.
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well, i hope that oscar does a great job here, so that all the basketball fans can go back to being happy and forget about frank
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Fwiw, I have said way more to Weber than I ever did to Frank. So I don't have the whole picture I suppose.
This doesn't account for your apparent ignorance of the countless stories from local & national media and the many many message board tales of how great Frank is away from the court with people. Honest question, did you become a K-State basketball fan after Weber was hired?
I have been a K-State fan my whole life. Point of pride: I was in bramlage coliseum the day after I was born (yes, I'm a young gun).
My (limited) personal experiences with Frank were that I felt like he didn't give a crap about being around the fans at that time. He would've rather been somewhere else.
My one experience with Weber was a 5 minute conversation that he actually seemed interested in.
Obviously there are people that had different experiences.
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Just stop. Frank cared a lot. Can confirm he'd make sure players talked to student media before real media in practice. Frank had charisma, that's what we're going to miss at the head coaching position. He was easy to like to the hard working adult fan, they understood his tough exterior. Bubbles is a goof.
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Obviously there are people that had different experiences.
I saw Frank successfully converse with the most Kansan of Kansans (in fact, a guy that Gene Keady called when he was trying to rally Weber support before Frank was even officially gone) whose first words to Frank were "where are you from?" and when Frank told him Cuba said "I thought you were EYE-talian." (pronunciation added)
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Why is it that I feel like I need to apologize to everybody on this thread now?
Franks gone... we have Weber. Let's hope he can do a good job.
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How great would it have been if he'd gotten thrown in a Brazilian prison for his antics and we would've had to hire Gottlieb because the coaching carousel has stopped spinning for this offseason?
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Fwiw, I have said way more to Weber than I ever did to Frank. So I don't have the whole picture I suppose.
This doesn't account for your apparent ignorance of the countless stories from local & national media and the many many message board tales of how great Frank is away from the court with people. Honest question, did you become a K-State basketball fan after Weber was hired?
I have been a K-State fan my whole life. Point of pride: I was in bramlage coliseum the day after I was born (yes, I'm a young gun).
My (limited) personal experiences with Frank were that I felt like he didn't give a crap about being around the fans at that time. He would've rather been somewhere else.
My one experience with Weber was a 5 minute conversation that he actually seemed interested in.
Obviously there are people that had different experiences.
I'm not sure why you quoted my post because other than responding to the question I asked about how long you've been a fan because the rest of the post completely ignored my other questions/points to you. I'll ask one more time. Hos did you miss the countless stories of how great Frank is on a personal basis? Did you not read or had friends who met Frank the 6 seasons he was here? You made an odd assumption and felt it fit to run with it for 6 years despite an incredible amount of contrary evidence?
Are you a sock?
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How great would it have been if he'd gotten thrown in a Brazilian prison for his antics and we would've had to hire Gottlieb because the coaching carousel has stopped spinning for this offseason?
Would Gottlieb have left his nice new job at CBS sports for us?
Heck, why don't we just hire all the former ESPN analysts and make Erin Andrews our AD. That sounds like a better hire.
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How great would it have been if he'd gotten thrown in a Brazilian prison for his antics and we would've had to hire Gottlieb because the coaching carousel has stopped spinning for this offseason?
Would Gottlieb have left his nice new job at CBS sports for us?
Heck, why don't we just hire all the former ESPN analysts and make Erin Andrews our AD. That sounds like a better hire.
Hopefully. He wanted our job pretty bad at the time.
YEAH WHY DON'T WE HIRE SEAN LOWE AS FOOTBALL COACH HUR HUR HUR
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Would Gottlieb have left his nice new job at CBS sports for us?
Heck, why don't we just hire all the former ESPN analysts and make Erin Andrews our AD. That sounds like a better hire.
mr. daris, i present to you this week's installment :blank:
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At the end of the day, when I look back on it, my number one choice, by far, was Gottlieb.
I don't know what this says about me, and I've been chastised for it by many friends, but dammit, I wanted Doug.
I agree with the vast majority of what Trim says, but I guess I'm either in denial (which is very common with me; my main go-to coping mechanism) or I just have lower expectations than most others when I say that I think oscar will do "alright".
While I love me some good capital improvement project porn, I can't forgive Currie for how this went down, and how he tried to sell it back. I'm not going to hold that against oscar, though. IMO, the guy enjoys coaching, wants to coach at a high level, and he's going to put forth the effort. He may not get the results, but he'll at least give a crap, which puts him above Asbury and Wooly in my eyes.
God, when I think about how much fun #Gottlieb4KSU was, it makes me sad.
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At the end of the day, when I look back on it, my number one choice, by far, was Gottlieb.
I don't know what this says about me, and I've been chastised for it by many friends, but dammit, I wanted Doug.
I agree with the vast majority of what Trim says, but I guess I'm either in denial (which is very common with me; my main go-to coping mechanism) or I just have lower expectations than most others when I say that I think oscar will do "alright".
While I love me some good capital improvement project porn, I can't forgive Currie for how this went down, and how he tried to sell it back. I'm not going to hold that against oscar, though. IMO, the guy enjoys coaching, wants to coach at a high level, and he's going to put forth the effort. He may not get the results, but he'll at least give a crap, which puts him above Asbury and Wooly in my eyes.
God, when I think about how much fun #Gottlieb4KSU was, it makes me sad.
Sometimes I feel like an bad person when people say what I've said (minus the slightly pro-Weber things), but tactfully.
But I'll forget about it by the morning.
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Fwiw, I have said way more to Weber than I ever did to Frank. So I don't have the whole picture I suppose.
This doesn't account for your apparent ignorance of the countless stories from local & national media and the many many message board tales of how great Frank is away from the court with people. Honest question, did you become a K-State basketball fan after Weber was hired?
I have been a K-State fan my whole life. Point of pride: I was in bramlage coliseum the day after I was born (yes, I'm a young gun).
My (limited) personal experiences with Frank were that I felt like he didn't give a crap about being around the fans at that time. He would've rather been somewhere else.
My one experience with Weber was a 5 minute conversation that he actually seemed interested in.
Obviously there are people that had different experiences.
I'm not sure why you quoted my post because other than responding to the question I asked about how long you've been a fan because the rest of the post completely ignored my other questions/points to you. I'll ask one more time. Hos did you miss the countless stories of how great Frank is on a personal basis? Did you not read or had friends who met Frank the 6 seasons he was here? You made an odd assumption and felt it fit to run with it for 6 years despite an incredible amount of contrary evidence?
Are you a sock?
I read stories about how great Frank was. I have friends that have met him. Their opinions were generally positive. After I met him I made an assumption and disregarded what other people said about him.
You obviously thought Frank was great at relating to people.
Firmly not a sock.
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How great would it have been if he'd gotten thrown in a Brazilian prison for his antics and we would've had to hire Gottlieb because the coaching carousel has stopped spinning for this offseason?
Would Gottlieb have left his nice new job at CBS sports for us?
Heck, why don't we just hire all the former ESPN analysts and make Erin Andrews our AD. That sounds like a better hire.
Hopefully. He wanted our job pretty bad at the time.
YEAH WHY DON'T WE HIRE SEAN LOWE AS FOOTBALL COACH HUR HUR HUR
You do realize I was only joking about Andrews. Not Gottlieb.
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At the end of the day, when I look back on it, my number one choice, by far, was Gottlieb.
I don't know what this says about me, and I've been chastised for it by many friends, but dammit, I wanted Doug.
I agree with the vast majority of what Trim says, but I guess I'm either in denial (which is very common with me; my main go-to coping mechanism) or I just have lower expectations than most others when I say that I think oscar will do "alright".
While I love me some good capital improvement project porn, I can't forgive Currie for how this went down, and how he tried to sell it back. I'm not going to hold that against oscar, though. IMO, the guy enjoys coaching, wants to coach at a high level, and he's going to put forth the effort. He may not get the results, but he'll at least give a crap, which puts him above Asbury and Wooly in my eyes.
God, when I think about how much fun #Gottlieb4KSU was, it makes me sad.
Sometimes I feel like an bad person when people say what I've said (minus the slightly pro-Weber things), but tactfully.
But I'll forget about it by the morning.
Oh, I'm an emotional roller coaster, but my profession forces me to be tactful in the face of being in a blind rage.
It's an acquired skill.
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Oh, I'm an emotional roller coaster, but my profession forces me to be tactful in the face of being in a blind rage.
It's an acquired skill.
Luckily in my job as V.P. of Member Relations for goEMAW, I can generally not give a eff.
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Oh, I'm an emotional roller coaster, but my profession forces me to be tactful in the face of being in a blind rage.
It's an acquired skill.
Luckily in my job as V.P. of Member Relations for goEMAW, I can generally not give a eff.
:lol:
but seriously, quiet with this gottlieb talk.. i'm getting pissed off :frown:
there's some sort of opportunity out there for a november rain parody video of that fateful day
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there's some sort of opportunity out there for a november rain parody video of that fateful day
:love:
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I was on #teamgottlieb as well, but most AD's aren't going to take that chance.
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I was on #teamgottlieb as well, but most AD's aren't going to take that chance.
Most ADs also aren't going to hire a coach who took a program that had the talent to go to the Championship game and ran it into the ground to the point they went 50-56 over 6 league seasons, culminating in a 6-12 season where they lost their team.
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I was on #teamgottlieb as well, but most AD's aren't going to take that chance.
Of course, there were others that would've been good selections, but Gottlieb embodied the idea of the approach that was needed in the hiring process.
Sucks that we were saddled with an AD that couldn't approach things right because of his own personal incentives.
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Of course, there were others that would've been good selections, but Gottlieb embodied the idea of the approach that was needed in the hiring process.
this is an excellent point
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Just stop. Frank cared a lot. Can confirm he'd make sure players talked to student media before real media in practice. Frank had charisma, that's what we're going to miss at the head coaching position. He was easy to like to the hard working adult fan, they understood his tough exterior. Bubbles is a goof.
Frank had so much charisma/personality/whatever you want to call it that he became K-State basketball. How many programs put their coach on the media guide like we did? And irregardless of his idiosyncrasies he became easy to love as a basketball fan.
FWIW, I was 100% pro-Doug, but I will also admit there was a significant amount of risk there.
As for oscar, I think a significant amount of the displeasure in his hire besides the failures at Illinois are that he's the anti-Frank. I think the squeaky clean part has been overplayed, but its clear he has a simple, "nice guy" personality. Even if he's successful here, it will be a lot different, and not quite as much fun (or at least a different fun) than it was with Frank. Frank always made thing interesting, we can already tell that oscar is not going to be that way. I don't think he's an incompetent coach and I believe he has the ability to be successful here, but the lack of personality takes a bit of the fun away, even with my optimistic tendencies.
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I'm not sure which bandwagon i am on, but lets not forget that Frank basically lost his team as well. If a handfull of guys were going to leave then this next year was probably going to be fairly rough for us. I loved FM but keeping him and losing 1/2 the talent would have blackened KSU basketball for a long time to come. Not that i have a choice, but i'm going to give BW a chance this year. If he jacks that all to hell, then its go time.
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Lost a team and got them an NCAA tournament win vs. lost a team and went 14-16 or whatever Brucey was. And you don't know that players were going to leave wildcat123.
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I'm not sure which bandwagon i am on, but lets not forget that Frank basically lost his team as well. If a handfull of guys were going to leave then this next year was probably going to be fairly rough for us. I loved FM but keeping him and losing 1/2 the talent would have blackened KSU basketball for a long time to come. Not that i have a choice, but i'm going to give BW a chance this year. If he jacks that all to hell, then its go time.
Objection, arguing facts not in evidence.
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Just stop. Frank cared a lot. Can confirm he'd make sure players talked to student media before real media in practice. Frank had charisma, that's what we're going to miss at the head coaching position. He was easy to like to the hard working adult fan, they understood his tough exterior. Bubbles is a goof.
Frank had so much charisma/personality/whatever you want to call it that he became K-State basketball. How many programs put their coach on the media guide like we did? And irregardless of his idiosyncrasies he became easy to love as a basketball fan.
FWIW, I was 100% pro-Doug, but I will also admit there was a significant amount of risk there.
As for oscar, I think a significant amount of the displeasure in his hire besides the failures at Illinois are that he's the anti-Frank. I think the squeaky clean part has been overplayed, but its clear he has a simple, "nice guy" personality. Even if he's successful here, it will be a lot different, and not quite as much fun (or at least a different fun) than it was with Frank. Frank always made thing interesting, we can already tell that oscar is not going to be that way. I don't think he's an incompetent coach and I believe he has the ability to be successful here, but the lack of personality takes a bit of the fun away, even with my optimistic tendencies.
Neckbruce?
Brucebrace?
You decide.
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I might not speak for everyone but I don't think my fun would be diminished by oscar being a nice guy if we were winning, nor would my fun remain if Frank was all goofy/Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and we lost. To me, oscar is simply a name for losing and Frank is a name for winning, based on the history we have.
Ideally, we'll win with Angel and our beloved EMAW players and they'll be the only names worth knowing.
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I take solace in the fact that the worst decision frank ever made was to leave and he knows it. He mumped his career for the rest of his life and he is regretting it and will never stop. I take solace in it because eff frank martin.
nazis gonna nazi. martin has won everywhere he's ever been. won big everywhere he's ever been. it's a shame you Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), racist, midwestern nazis are too stupid to realize he's good. he'd still be kstate's coach if you weren't so rough ridin' stupid. and if he was still our coach, we'd still be winning.
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Also while I'm here I'll take a run at CC because I think he got a pass. His response to Hamburgular was total horse crap and it would be if he worked for the AD or if he slung sandwiches at Jimmy John's. "I shouldn't have said it" is a weak ass tapout that wouldn't have been accepted if it came from anyone else. You shouldn't have thought it. Who the hell appointed you or anyone else the assessor of EMAW based on reasoning for economic decision making? I'm fairly sure you have friends or family who don't have season tickets for some reason or another, do you spend time questioning their allegiance?
qfmft.
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So blessed to have Trim and Sys as KSU Cat fans. The run of posts in this thread by them are just rough ridin' fantastic.
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So blessed to have Trim and Sys as KSU Cat fans. The run of posts in this thread by them are just rough ridin' fantastic.
agreed, also, every post sys has made since march 2012 has been exactly the same. so no, i don't agree.
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Frank Martin was out the door at the first opportunity he had to get out the door . . . he couldn't leave fast enough.
:lol: at sys . . . just :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: at what an effing Frank Martin Kool-Aid Drinker you are.
Fantastic job by Frank "The most Paranoid man in college basketball" Martin in constructing this whole cryptic, obfuscated, "ask your source", "ask them" background story to provide air cover for the departure he was going to make no matter what anyway.
He just knew Hayseed Frankites would be pulling up to the trough like the lemmings did for Jim Jones.
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In the last 2 years ADJC/Athletic Department A-Holes have:
Suspended our 2 best players/seniors for getting discounted clothing
Continued to actively try to kick Curtis Kelly off the team with no outside NCAA pressure
Held our only senior out of the last game of his collegiate career because of a 200$ receipt from a transfer from a family friend found in a Dillon's trash can
Why the eff would WOULDN'T Frank Martin want to take the first opportunity he had to get out the door?
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Frank Martin was out the door at the first opportunity he had to get out the door . . . he couldn't leave fast enough.
this point can't be stated enough. some people just choose to ignore it.
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Continued to actively try to kick Curtis Kelly off the team with no outside NCAA pressure
First time I've heard this.
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Frank Martin was out the door at the first opportunity he had to get out the door . . . he couldn't leave fast enough.
this point can't be stated enough. some people just choose to ignore it.
When I worked within an elected office, and new leaders were voted in who was or everyone knew would be at odds with the existing staff or who even told existing staff that they wouldn't be retained, the staff was out the door at the first opportunity. Blame them?
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As for oscar, I think a significant amount of the displeasure in his hire besides the failures at Illinois are that he's the anti-Frank. I think the squeaky clean part has been overplayed, but its clear he has a simple, "nice guy" personality. Even if he's successful here, it will be a lot different, and not quite as much fun (or at least a different fun) than it was with Frank. Frank always made thing interesting, we can already tell that oscar is not going to be that way. I don't think he's an incompetent coach and I believe he has the ability to be successful here, but the lack of personality takes a bit of the fun away, even with my optimistic tendencies.
I think you're wrong. His record gives me more than enough displeasure, and I would hate his hire just as much if he was a charismatic Frank clone. You can also look at stats and know that we won't play defense as intensely or crash the boards as well or play offense as well, which I will also hate.
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Frank Martin was out the door at the first opportunity he had to get out the door . . . he couldn't leave fast enough.
this point can't be stated enough. some people just choose to ignore it.
It was actually his third or fourth opportunity.
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JOHN CURRIE KITN OMG WHY DOES THIS ALWAYS HAPPEN TO US AND NO ONE ELSE
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Also while I'm here I'll take a run at CC because I think he got a pass. His response to Hamburgular was total horse crap and it would be if he worked for the AD or if he slung sandwiches at Jimmy John's. "I shouldn't have said it" is a weak ass tapout that wouldn't have been accepted if it came from anyone else. You shouldn't have thought it. Who the hell appointed you or anyone else the assessor of EMAW based on reasoning for economic decision making? I'm fairly sure you have friends or family who don't have season tickets for some reason or another, do you spend time questioning their allegiance?
qfmft.
Sys says don't support Currie because he is not EMAW enough. He just works there, he's not a "real" K-Stater. Who the hell appointed him or anyone else the assessor of EMAW?
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Also while I'm here I'll take a run at CC because I think he got a pass. His response to Hamburgular was total horse crap and it would be if he worked for the AD or if he slung sandwiches at Jimmy John's. "I shouldn't have said it" is a weak ass tapout that wouldn't have been accepted if it came from anyone else. You shouldn't have thought it. Who the hell appointed you or anyone else the assessor of EMAW based on reasoning for economic decision making? I'm fairly sure you have friends or family who don't have season tickets for some reason or another, do you spend time questioning their allegiance?
qfmft.
Sys says don't support Currie because he is not EMAW enough. He just works there, he's not a "real" K-Stater. Who the hell appointed him or anyone else the assessor of EMAW?
I hope MIR gets a little more time on here this weekend.
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Frank Martin was out the door at the first opportunity he had to get out the door . . . he couldn't leave fast enough.
this point can't be stated enough. some people just choose to ignore it.
It was actually his third or fourth opportunity.
Omfg. No, it wasn't. Frank begged for the Miami job. Then south carolina comes calling and he rough ridin' jets out of here like it was ucla.
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OMG I'M SO ANGRY AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY CURRIE YOU KITN DO YOU HEAR ME NATIONAL MEDIA
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Frank Martin was out the door at the first opportunity he had to get out the door . . . he couldn't leave fast enough.
this point can't be stated enough. some people just choose to ignore it.
It was actually his third or fourth opportunity.
Omfg. No, it wasn't. Frank begged for the Miami job. Then south carolina comes calling and he rough ridin' jets out of here like it was ucla.
He turned down Depaul and Oregon who both offered more than he ever made at K-State, at least a year before his Miami disaster. I'm sure he regrets turning those down knowing now how things played out.
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Yeah, he could be kicking back right now in Nike City planning his complete domination of the PAC 12 for a third year in a row rather than in redneck hillbilly racistville wondering how he can get anyone to care about his team.
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Thank God we won't have to go through all of this crap again. oscar will be here forever.
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Thank God we won't have to go through all of this crap again. oscar will be here forever.
we're going to bury him next to Tiger's dad
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well he wasn't a good fit for Illinois. they fired him. but then again they care about having a good basketball team so you might be right. he might be a good fit for kstate.
I have a friend who goes to Illinois and was pretty upset about Weber leaving. He says he's not the only one either.
There is no rough ridin' way on earth that this poster isn't in some way personally connected to Weber. It's his rough ridin' wife or one of his daughters. Nobody was "pretty upset" about Weber getting crap-canned at Illinois other than his friends and family. Illinois basketball wasn't just losing, it was rough ridin' miserable to watch or be around. Nobody gave a crap about it anymore other than to say oscar should be fired. His rough ridin' impending doom was the only thing inspiring any hope or interest whatsoever in the fanbase.
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Also while I'm here I'll take a run at CC because I think he got a pass. His response to Hamburgular was total horse crap and it would be if he worked for the AD or if he slung sandwiches at Jimmy John's. "I shouldn't have said it" is a weak ass tapout that wouldn't have been accepted if it came from anyone else. You shouldn't have thought it. Who the hell appointed you or anyone else the assessor of EMAW based on reasoning for economic decision making? I'm fairly sure you have friends or family who don't have season tickets for some reason or another, do you spend time questioning their allegiance?
qfmft.
Sys says don't support Currie because he is not EMAW enough. He just works there, he's not a "real" K-Stater. Who the hell appointed him or anyone else the assessor of EMAW?
:horrorsurprise: CC is a Dax sock. This is straight out of the SODJ playbook. Its okay to ignore the obvious differences between what CC posted and what sys posted. So now in the eyes of Capt'nDax an employee who isn't an alum who makes decisions based on his career advancement is one in the same of an alum, donor, and season ticket holder who is displeased by the decisions of the guy who is using the school as a transit stop.
You know what Cap'nDax is right, we're wrong. I'm sure after Currie has gotten his next job he'll wear purple, watch games, and message board in his free time. When I think of people who bleed purple John Currie is right at the top of the list, eff hamburglar :thumbsup:
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well he wasn't a good fit for Illinois. they fired him. but then again they care about having a good basketball team so you might be right. he might be a good fit for kstate.
I have a friend who goes to Illinois and was pretty upset about Weber leaving. He says he's not the only one either.
There is no rough ridin' way on earth that this poster isn't in some way personally connected to Weber. It's his rough ridin' wife or one of his daughters. Nobody was "pretty upset" about Weber getting crap-canned at Illinois other than his friends and family. Illinois basketball wasn't just losing, it was rough ridin' miserable to watch or be around. Nobody gave a crap about it anymore other than to say oscar should be fired. His rough ridin' impending doom was the only thing inspiring any hope or interest whatsoever in the fanbase.
he's either a sock or just rough ridin' with everyone. I'm sure he's posted here before under another moniker.
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I am glad MIR is back on his game
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Frank Martin bolted because he knew he'd burned so many recruiting bridges that he couldn't sustain the program at the level it was at any longer. He took the next boat out as fast as he could . . . it was his Dunkirk, he passed up the first 2 sealiners, and then was forced to catch an old sailboat down South when the Panzer's were at the gate.
2 top instate players were passing on K-State almost exclusively because of one reason . . . Frank Martin. Nobody decent wanted to be subjected to Frank anymore . . . the well was poisoned.
Hayseed Frankites then can't figure out that Frank learned from one of the best . . . "toughest decision I ever made" . . . the lone man walking into the crisp Kansas wind, deep in thought, really gets you right here (pounds chest) doesn't it? Then as soon as he hops on the jet he's popping a scotch on the rocks and making recruiting calls.
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Frank Martin bolted because he knew he'd burned so many recruiting bridges that he couldn't sustain the program at the level it was at any longer. He took the next boat out as fast as he could . . . it was his Dunkirk, he passed up the first 2 sealiners, and then was forced to catch an old sailboat down South when the Panzer's were at the gate.
2 top instate players were passing on K-State almost exclusively because of one reason . . . Frank Martin. Nobody decent wanted to be subjected to Frank anymore . . . the well was poisoned.
Hayseed Frankites then can't figure out that Frank learned from one of the best . . . "toughest decision I ever made" . . . the lone man walking into the crisp Kansas wind, deep in thought, really gets you right here (pounds chest) doesn't it? Then as soon as he hops on the jet he's popping a scotch on the rocks and making recruiting calls.
Next time you have the urge to post in this thread, read the thread title again and ask yourself "Does this relate to the topic at hand?" Not debating the merits of whether you are right or wrong, but its as topical to this thread as whether or not Ted is the best comedic movie of the last five years.
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Also while I'm here I'll take a run at CC because I think he got a pass. His response to Hamburgular was total horse crap and it would be if he worked for the AD or if he slung sandwiches at Jimmy John's. "I shouldn't have said it" is a weak ass tapout that wouldn't have been accepted if it came from anyone else. You shouldn't have thought it. Who the hell appointed you or anyone else the assessor of EMAW based on reasoning for economic decision making? I'm fairly sure you have friends or family who don't have season tickets for some reason or another, do you spend time questioning their allegiance?
qfmft.
Sys says don't support Currie because he is not EMAW enough. He just works there, he's not a "real" K-Stater. Who the hell appointed him or anyone else the assessor of EMAW?
:horrorsurprise: CC is a Dax sock. This is straight out of the SODJ playbook. Its okay to ignore the obvious differences between what CC posted and what sys posted. So now in the eyes of Capt'nDax an employee who isn't an alum who makes decisions based on his career advancement is one in the same of an alum, donor, and season ticket holder who is displeased by the decisions of the guy who is using the school as a transit stop.
You know what Cap'nDax is right, we're wrong. I'm sure after Currie has gotten his next job he'll wear purple, watch games, and message board in his free time. When I think of people who bleed purple John Currie is right at the top of the list, eff hamburglar :thumbsup:
:facepalm:
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Frank Martin bolted because he knew he'd burned so many recruiting bridges that he couldn't sustain the program at the level it was at any longer. He took the next boat out as fast as he could . . . it was his Dunkirk, he passed up the first 2 sealiners, and then was forced to catch an old sailboat down South when the Panzer's were at the gate.
2 top instate players were passing on K-State almost exclusively because of one reason . . . Frank Martin. Nobody decent wanted to be subjected to Frank anymore . . . the well was poisoned.
Hayseed Frankites then can't figure out that Frank learned from one of the best . . . "toughest decision I ever made" . . . the lone man walking into the crisp Kansas wind, deep in thought, really gets you right here (pounds chest) doesn't it? Then as soon as he hops on the jet he's popping a scotch on the rocks and making recruiting calls.
Next time you have the urge to post in this thread, read the thread title again and ask yourself "Does this relate to the topic at hand?" Not debating the merits of whether you are right or wrong, but its as topical to this thread as whether or not Ted is the best comedic movie of the last five years.
Then you need to read a whole series of other posts in this thread a lot more closely than you apparently have MIR . . . you're just be selective and you know it.
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So, I need a feel for when NeckBracePak will be. My fall/early winter schedule is filling up and I need to circle a few dates as soon as possible. What are some key games that we need to lose by a combined 6 pts before we do this.
Also, I assume someone can buy a neckbrace without having to have a prescription or be a failure of a basketball coach at the D1 level, right? Can anyone confirm this for me? TIA
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jesus eff you guys :flush:
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jesus eff you guys :flush:
It was only a matter of time until MiR's cruise missile honed in on CC :users:
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you can't openly mock people wanting to hire doug gottlieb and use the "he hasn't coached a single game at KState" defense at the same time. you have to pick one or the other.
:dubious:
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lol at people who think he turned down Oregon. Franks agent must have started those rumors.
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you can't openly mock people wanting to hire doug gottlieb and use the "he hasn't coached a single game at KState" defense at the same time. you have to pick one or the other.
:dubious:
what are you :dubious: about dork? :dubious:
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It was only a matter of time until MiR's cruise missile honed in on CC :users:
:lol:
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you can't openly mock people wanting to hire doug gottlieb and use the "he hasn't coached a single game at KState" defense at the same time. you have to pick one or the other.
:dubious:
what are you :dubious: about dork? :dubious:
You started this bullshit and then turned into the thread dad.
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BECAUSE I AM CIVIL ABOUT IT YOU SHITHEAD. I'M TURNING THIS rough ridin' CAR AROUND.
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whether or not Ted is the best comedic movie of the last five years.
How much will my wife hate this movie if we see it tonight?
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BECAUSE I AM CIVIL ABOUT IT YOU SHITHEAD. I'M TURNING THIS rough ridin' CAR AROUND.
hey, dad, don't steer the thread toward a ravine if you don't want things to get ugly.
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BECAUSE I AM CIVIL ABOUT IT YOU SHITHEAD. I'M TURNING THIS rough ridin' CAR AROUND.
hey, dad, don't steer the thread toward a ravine if you don't want things to get ugly.
there was no stopping it. just like every other thread that cc posts in and people can't help themselves.
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Anger's better than indifference, right?
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Anger's better than indifference, right?
absolutely. I just try to keep from getting into frank martin anger to my own detriment levels.
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Anger's better than indifference, right?
I'm completely indifferent. Of course, I haven't donated or bought season tickets since I graduated and I'm not a townie, so that's kind of expected. I'm not really EMAW.
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Anger's better than indifference, right?
I'm completely indifferent. Of course, I haven't donated or bought season tickets since I graduated and I'm not a townie, so that's kind of expected. I'm not really EMAW.
shut up dork
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Anger's better than indifference, right?
absolutely. I just try to keep from getting into frank martin anger to my own detriment levels.
I mean for the athletic department, it probably sucks getting ripped here all the time, but they should be thankful that people care. It's a good sign that when they make things right, people will be happy.
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Anger's better than indifference, right?
absolutely. I just try to keep from getting into frank martin anger to my own detriment levels.
I mean for the athletic department, it probably sucks getting ripped here all the time, but they should be thankful that people care. It's a good sign that when they make things right, people will be happy.
oh, yeah. agreed. everyone here wants the same thing.
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Anger's better than indifference, right?
I'm completely indifferent. Of course, I haven't donated or bought season tickets since I graduated and I'm not a townie, so that's kind of expected. I'm not really EMAW.
shut up dork
the "townies care more" posts kind of hurt my feelings, steve dad.
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Anger's better than indifference, right?
I'm completely indifferent. Of course, I haven't donated or bought season tickets since I graduated and I'm not a townie, so that's kind of expected. I'm not really EMAW.
:thumbs:
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Anger's better than indifference, right?
I'm completely indifferent. Of course, I haven't donated or bought season tickets since I graduated and I'm not a townie, so that's kind of expected. I'm not really EMAW.
shut up dork
the "townies care more" posts kind of hurt my feelings, steve dad.
well, if it makes you feel better, that was complete horseshit
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Anger's better than indifference, right?
I'm completely indifferent. Of course, I haven't donated or bought season tickets since I graduated and I'm not a townie, so that's kind of expected. I'm not really EMAW.
shut up dork
the "townies care more" posts kind of hurt my feelings, steve dad.
well, if it makes you feel better, that was complete horseshit
I'm still indifferent. wake me up when oscar is in the ground next to earl.
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remember when the tiger woods stuff came out and fatty posted something like "I bet earl is rolling over in his manhattan sunset cemetary grave"
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remember when the tiger woods stuff came out and fatty posted something like "I bet earl is rolling over in his manhattan sunset cemetary grave"
no, but I can imagine it.
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Anger's better than indifference, right?
I'm completely indifferent. Of course, I haven't donated or bought season tickets since I graduated and I'm not a townie, so that's kind of expected. I'm not really EMAW.
shut up dork
the "townies care more" posts kind of hurt my feelings, steve dad.
well, if it makes you feel better, that was complete horseshit
I'm still indifferent. wake me up when oscar is in the ground next to earl.
Oh man, good one Pinnochio.
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I have a better way of finding out who is emaw than if you are a townie or not. If you don't hate the oscar weber hire, then you aren't emaw.
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I have a better way of finding out who is emaw than if you are a townie or not. If you don't hate the oscar weber hire, then you aren't emaw.
<------ EMAW AS eff
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It's judgement day, people. Do you want to ride off into the sunset with EMAW, or do you want to stand there eating chicken nuggets out of a hard hat with Currie and Weber?
Me? I'm with EMAW.
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every poster on here hates the oscar weber hire. that's a pretty shitty EMAW gauge. I think you have to hate the oscar Weber hire, John Currie, Jon Wefald, Bob Huggins and Frank Martin. That's where the EMAWs are separated from the whatevers.
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every poster on here hates the oscar weber hire. that's a pretty shitty EMAW gauge. I think you have to hate the oscar Weber hire, John Currie, Jon Wefald, Bob Huggins and Frank Martin. That's where the EMAWs are separated from the whatevers.
It's better than determining it by if you live in the city limits of Manhattan or not.
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every poster on here hates the oscar weber hire. that's a pretty shitty EMAW gauge. I think you have to hate the oscar Weber hire, John Currie, Jon Wefald, Bob Huggins and Frank Martin. That's where the EMAWs are separated from the whatevers.
It's better than determining it by if you live in the city limits of Manhattan or not.
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i feel like there is some confusion with the whole growing up in mhk thing. it's kind of like this...
pretend that being a kstate fan is like playing a game of trivial pursuit. now pretend that every person that grew up in mhk and went to kstate automatically starts the game with the orange pie and that if you didn't grow up in mhk then you can be the best trivial pursuit player ever and answer that orange question correctly thirty times, but because of the rules you aren't ever allowed to get the orange pie thing.
it's a dirty truth and those of us that grew up in mhk don't talk about it all that much out of respect and not wanting to rub noses in it and such. it just is what it is and hey 5 our of 6 pie pieces is still a pretty good game at the end of the day we're all still friends.
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Right now Currie and Weber are rolling with EMAW.
Frank . . . he's Under Armouring it all up with the Gamecocks.
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I mean, crap, when your parents dragged you to games as early as you can remember, of course, there's a difference between you and someone who started regularly going to games in college.
But I didn't hate the Weber hire. I'm good with anyone whose name I actually recognize.
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BECAUSE I AM CIVIL ABOUT IT YOU SHITHEAD. I'M TURNING THIS rough ridin' CAR AROUND.
hey, dad, don't steer the thread toward a ravine if you don't want things to get ugly.
there was no stopping it. just like every other thread that cc posts in and people can't help themselves.
I'm interested to know when and where you think the incivility started in this thread. I'm going to point to the first page where you had one poster questioning the EMAW of another because he made the choice not to renew his tickets. I'm not sure what the reasonable expectation would be after that road is traveled down. Not certain how you treat someone civilly who shouts "tear gas & automatic weapons" in a crowded movie theatre.
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I mean, crap, when your parents dragged you to games as early as you can remember, of course, there's a difference between you and someone who started regularly going to games in college.
But I didn't hate the Weber hire. I'm good with anyone whose name I actually recognize.
Chum1 - not EMAW
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I'm still indifferent. wake me up when oscar is in the ground next to earl.
Oh man, good one Pinnochio.
I really don't give a crap any more.
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every poster on here hates the oscar weber hire. that's a pretty shitty EMAW gauge. I think you have to hate the oscar Weber hire, John Currie, Jon Wefald, Bob Huggins and Frank Martin. That's where the EMAWs are separated from the whatevers.
EMAW is about love too steve dave, not just about hate.
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every poster on here hates the oscar weber hire. that's a pretty shitty EMAW gauge. I think you have to hate the oscar Weber hire, John Currie, Jon Wefald, Bob Huggins and Frank Martin. That's where the EMAWs are separated from the whatevers.
EMAW is about love too steve dave, not just about hate.
ok, name your love requirements then. I love Pat Bosco.
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BECAUSE I AM CIVIL ABOUT IT YOU SHITHEAD. I'M TURNING THIS rough ridin' CAR AROUND.
hey, dad, don't steer the thread toward a ravine if you don't want things to get ugly.
there was no stopping it. just like every other thread that cc posts in and people can't help themselves.
I'm interested to know when and where you think the incivility started in this thread. I'm going to point to the first page where you had one poster questioning the EMAW of another because he made the choice not to renew his tickets. I'm not sure what the reasonable expectation would be after that road is traveled down. Not certain how you treat someone civilly who shouts "tear gas & automatic weapons" in a crowded movie theatre.
you have exactly pinpointed the moment.
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every poster on here hates the oscar weber hire. that's a pretty shitty EMAW gauge. I think you have to hate the oscar Weber hire, John Currie, Jon Wefald, Bob Huggins and Frank Martin. That's where the EMAWs are separated from the whatevers.
EMAW is about love too steve dave, not just about hate.
ok, name your love requirements then. I love Pat Bosco.
Bosco yes. Gus Johnson and Kim English too.
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i love sunshine pumping, half time interview coward stan bot, and I love him with all my heart
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nontownies trying to convince themselves they're as emaw as townies. now i've seen everything.
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someone explain to sys what townie means
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every poster on here hates the oscar weber hire. that's a pretty shitty EMAW gauge. I think you have to hate the oscar Weber hire, John Currie, Jon Wefald, Bob Huggins and Frank Martin. That's where the EMAWs are separated from the whatevers.
EMAW is about love too steve dave, not just about hate.
ok, name your love requirements then. I love Pat Bosco.
Bosco yes. Gus Johnson and Kim English too.
Great list, no one will top it so don't try :thumbs:
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tyshawn taylor. i really like him.
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OMG I'M SO ANGRY AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY CURRIE YOU KITN DO YOU HEAR ME NATIONAL MEDIA
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well he wasn't a good fit for Illinois. they fired him. but then again they care about having a good basketball team so you might be right. he might be a good fit for kstate.
I have a friend who goes to Illinois and was pretty upset about Weber leaving. He says he's not the only one either.
Not a sock. No other moniker. No personal connection to Weber. Just a person who has opinions that differ from 99% of the people on this board.
There is no rough ridin' way on earth that this poster isn't in some way personally connected to Weber. It's his rough ridin' wife or one of his daughters. Nobody was "pretty upset" about Weber getting crap-canned at Illinois other than his friends and family. Illinois basketball wasn't just losing, it was rough ridin' miserable to watch or be around. Nobody gave a crap about it anymore other than to say oscar should be fired. His rough ridin' impending doom was the only thing inspiring any hope or interest whatsoever in the fanbase.
he's either a sock or just rough ridin' with everyone. I'm sure he's posted here before under another moniker.
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BECAUSE I AM CIVIL ABOUT IT YOU SHITHEAD. I'M TURNING THIS rough ridin' CAR AROUND.
hey, dad, don't steer the thread toward a ravine if you don't want things to get ugly.
there was no stopping it. just like every other thread that cc posts in and people can't help themselves.
I'm interested to know when and where you think the incivility started in this thread. I'm going to point to the first page where you had one poster questioning the EMAW of another because he made the choice not to renew his tickets. I'm not sure what the reasonable expectation would be after that road is traveled down. Not certain how you treat someone civilly who shouts "tear gas & automatic weapons" in a crowded movie theatre.
I apologized for the comment. Not sure what else you want from me. Yes, I do think it is bush league to not buy tickets because you don't like the new head coach before he even coaches a game. Yes, I do think that reflects poorly on that person's support of the university as opposed to an individual. Not going to apologize for thinking that. I am entitled to that opinion. As I said, I should have just kept it to myself, or should have expressed it in a less inflammatory manner. Again, I am sorry for that.
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Yes, I do think it is bush league to not buy tickets because you don't like the new head coach before he even coaches a game. Yes, I do think that reflects poorly on that person's support of the university as opposed to an individual.
When the university trumpets ticket sales and attendance as a sign of support for the athletic department's decisions, you can't expect people who hate those decisions to buy tickets. The strongest factor that nearly kept me from buying tickets was knowing that my purchase would subsequently be used as "evidence" that K-State is buying into the Weber Era. I bought them anyway because I do love K-State and the players (traitors excluded), but it wasn't easy.
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Anyways, calling out CC for questioning someones support is stupid. A lot of people say a lot more inflammatory crap than that. CC shouldn't have to write an apology essay and everyone doesn't need to get super sensitive just because he works in the AD. Hamburglar, I don't question your EMAW but I also don't give a crap if your feelings got hurt over that comment (not that you've been the one bitching about it).
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Anyways, calling out CC for questioning someones support is stupid. A lot of people say a lot more inflammatory crap than that. CC shouldn't have to write an apology essay and everyone doesn't need to get super sensitive just because he works in the AD. Hamburglar, I don't question your EMAW but I also don't give a crap if your feelings got hurt over that comment (not that you've been the one bitching about it).
no one's bitching about crap. some people (not necessarily him) think we should all meekly swallow whatever load of crap cc is trying offload on the gullible public in gratitude that he posts here at all. which is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), his posts are as fair game for disagreement, refutation or mockery as anyone's.
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Anyways, calling out CC for questioning someones support is stupid. A lot of people say a lot more inflammatory crap than that. CC shouldn't have to write an apology essay and everyone doesn't need to get super sensitive just because he works in the AD. Hamburglar, I don't question your EMAW but I also don't give a crap if your feelings got hurt over that comment (not that you've been the one bitching about it).
no one's bitching about crap. some people (not necessarily him) think we should all meekly swallow whatever load of crap cc is trying offload on the gullible public in gratitude that he posts here at all. which is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), his posts are as fair game for disagreement, refutation or mockery as anyone's.
No question about it. I'm human, I eff up sometimes and I post emotionally sometimes. Dont want a free pass just cuz I know stuff.
I dont think I'm trying to offload crap on people. I post what I know, or what I think based off what I know. On this subject it is going to be difficult for alot of people to look past emotional investments made in people, for both good and bad.
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I dont think I'm trying to offload crap on people.
it's in your very name; in your nature.
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The "he hasn't coached a game" argument is pretty embarrassing. Is this the company line in Bramlage?
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:facepalm:
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The "he hasn't coached a game" argument is pretty embarrassing. Is this the company line in Bramlage?
Just my opinion, man. No idea what the "company line" in Bramlage, I dont think there is one.
I hope K-State basketball does well, and so therefore I hope oscar does a good job. I'm willing to let him prove how good of a job he can do here. if it doesn't meet my standards, as a fan and alum i would voice my displeasure.
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and i think people should buy season tickets ;)
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The "he hasn't coached a game" argument is pretty embarrassing. Is this the company line in Bramlage?
Currie's line was that he's coached and won a shitload more games than Frank and accordingly is better.
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The "he hasn't coached a game" argument is pretty embarrassing. Is this the company line in Bramlage?
Currie's line was that he's coached and won a shitload more games than Frank and accordingly is better.
Yeah, that was pretty damn stupid on Currie's part.
I don't like how KSU has framed the Weber hire. They won't come out and say why they hired him (obviously), but don't piss on me and tell me it's raining. I can compartmentalize the "why" and live with it, but it wasn't some sort of coup that we should all be doing cartwheels over.
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The "he hasn't coached a game" argument is pretty embarrassing. Is this the company line in Bramlage?
Currie's line was that he's coached and won a shitload more games than Frank and accordingly is better.
Yeah, that was pretty damn stupid on Currie's part.
I don't like how KSU has framed the Weber hire. They won't come out and say why they hired him (obviously), but don't piss on me and tell me it's raining. I can compartmentalize the "why" and live with it, but it wasn't some sort of coup that we should all be doing cartwheels over.
The thing is, I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what we think. A fair amount (not all) of the national media that doesn't bother to pay close attention to us--think ESPN who doesn't know anything in-depth about our program--have eaten this hire up and called it a solid way to recover from Frank Martin leaving. As long as Currie's decision-making acumen is being praised nationally, our opinions mean nothing. The only time they ever will is if the big donors revolt, and the donors aren't going to revolt until at least year 3 or 4 if Weber sinks like most of us think he will.
Sure, Currie's torched his chances among schools that have a history of doing things under the table, but he's essentially raised his profile amongst schools that are obsessed with winning "the right way" or are about to get slammed/have been slammed by NCAA sanctions and need a new athletic director to come in and give an appearance of cleaning things up to the outside world. Considering how many schools are in the crosshairs of the NCAA these days, it's not necessarily a bad image for Currie to have.
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The thing is, I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what we think.
Of course it matters what we think. If you hate your job, you'll leave. Frank taught us that.
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The thing is, I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what we think.
Of course it matters what we think. If you hate your job, you'll leave. Frank taught us that.
And there's no way Currie will get to that point until the tucks turn. That said, I'm certainly not encouraging anyone to quell their dissent. Letting top officials make decisions in a vacuum without any criticism is a recipe for disaster.
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The thing is, I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what we think.
Of course it matters what we think. If you hate your job, you'll leave. Frank taught us that.
I think he's already actively trying, though.
Not that it matters in the context of this conversation.
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The thing is, I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what we think. A fair amount (not all) of the national media that doesn't bother to pay close attention to us--think ESPN who doesn't know anything in-depth about our program--have eaten this hire up and called it a solid way to recover from Frank Martin leaving. As long as Currie's decision-making acumen is being praised nationally, our opinions mean nothing. The only time they ever will is if the big donors revolt, and the donors aren't going to revolt until at least year 3 or 4 if Weber sinks like most of us think he will.
bitb bill reiter didn't. he actually wrote the article that i would have written if i would've written an article. so many absolutely amazing lines. just perfect.
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/Kansas-State-Wildcats-oscar-Weber-Frank-Martin-John-Currie-new-hire-spells-big-trouble-040112
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bitb bill reiter didn't. he actually wrote the story that i would have written if i would've written a story. so many absolutely amazing lines in this aricle.
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/Kansas-State-Wildcats-oscar-Weber-Frank-Martin-John-Currie-new-hire-spells-big-trouble-040112
that's a rough ridin' fantastic article.
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The thing is, I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what we think.
Of course it matters what we think. If you hate your job, you'll leave. Frank taught us that.
And there's no way Currie will get to that point until the tucks turn. That said, I'm certainly not encouraging anyone to quell their dissent. Letting top officials make decisions in a vacuum without any criticism is a recipe for disaster.
We've already caused Currie to leave where he was supposed to be on 3 different occasions.
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The thing is, I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what we think.
Of course it matters what we think. If you hate your job, you'll leave. Frank taught us that.
I think he's already actively trying, though.
Not that it matters in the context of this conversation.
Exactly. If it sucks for him in Manhattan enough, eventually he'll lower his standards to the types of schools willing to hire him.
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bitb bill reiter didn't. he actually wrote the story that i would have written if i would've written a story. so many absolutely amazing lines in this aricle.
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/Kansas-State-Wildcats-oscar-Weber-Frank-Martin-John-Currie-new-hire-spells-big-trouble-040112
that's a rough ridin' fantastic article.
I don't know why I don't read it more often.
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The thing is, I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what we think.
Of course it matters what we think. If you hate your job, you'll leave. Frank taught us that.
I think he's already actively trying, though.
Not that it matters in the context of this conversation.
Exactly. If it sucks for him in Manhattan enough, eventually he'll lower his standards to the types of schools willing to hire him.
Hey, I'm all for whatever gets him out of here faster.
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Anyways, calling out CC for questioning someones support is stupid. A lot of people say a lot more inflammatory crap than that. CC shouldn't have to write an apology essay and everyone doesn't need to get super sensitive just because he works in the AD. Hamburglar, I don't question your EMAW but I also don't give a crap if your feelings got hurt over that comment (not that you've been the one bitching about it).
no one's bitching about crap. some people (not necessarily him) think we should all meekly swallow whatever load of crap cc is trying offload on the gullible public in gratitude that he posts here at all. which is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), his posts are as fair game for disagreement, refutation or mockery as anyone's.
Oh, I strongly disagree with CC's backing of Weber. He is absolutely fair game, thats what makes this place great. Some people were taking huge offense at his small slight and it seemed way overblown
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From butthurt to bitter.
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Butthurt city
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The thing is, I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what we think. A fair amount (not all) of the national media that doesn't bother to pay close attention to us--think ESPN who doesn't know anything in-depth about our program--have eaten this hire up and called it a solid way to recover from Frank Martin leaving. As long as Currie's decision-making acumen is being praised nationally, our opinions mean nothing. The only time they ever will is if the big donors revolt, and the donors aren't going to revolt until at least year 3 or 4 if Weber sinks like most of us think he will.
bitb bill reiter didn't. he actually wrote the article that i would have written if i would've written an article. so many absolutely amazing lines. just perfect.
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/Kansas-State-Wildcats-oscar-Weber-Frank-Martin-John-Currie-new-hire-spells-big-trouble-040112
i had the animal read it. he told me it was hateful.
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I don't completely disagree with that column, but its not balanced in any way. He should follow up with the same kind of vigor on what its like to deal with the most hot headed, paranoid coach in college basketball (which is saying a lot considering the overall landscape).
And . . . what the NCAA does or doesn't do to UNC basketball will impact my thoughts on Jamar and other things.
Plus, we'll see how things go for Frank at SC since the guy who hired him left 3 months later.
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This pic made me remember when Frank used to wear those sweet velour sweat suits on the sidelines. :cry:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.pgu.me%2FsTb8Tlme_original.jpg&hash=e17bff5f05fbe853616a004418b2dbadd99c0932)
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http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/Kansas-State-Wildcats-oscar-Weber-Frank-Martin-John-Currie-new-hire-spells-big-trouble-040112
i had the animal read it. he told me it was hateful.
THE animal?
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I would've thought that was a cbs sports article
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He should follow up with the same kind of vigor on what its like to deal with the most hot headed, paranoid coach in college basketball (which is saying a lot considering the overall landscape).
it doesn't matter. martin was the talent, he's allowed to do whatever he wants. currie's job was to keep him safe, happy and at kstate.
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I would've thought that was a cbs sports article
heh. they were still buds though.
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He should follow up with the same kind of vigor on what its like to deal with the most hot headed, paranoid coach in college basketball (which is saying a lot considering the overall landscape).
it doesn't matter. martin was the talent, he's allowed to do whatever he wants. currie's job was to keep him safe, happy and at kstate.
Agreed
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He should follow up with the same kind of vigor on what its like to deal with the most hot headed, paranoid coach in college basketball (which is saying a lot considering the overall landscape).
it doesn't matter. martin was the talent, he's allowed to do whatever he wants. currie's job was to keep him safe, happy and at kstate.
oh man
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http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/Kansas-State-Wildcats-oscar-Weber-Frank-Martin-John-Currie-new-hire-spells-big-trouble-040112
i had the animal read it. he told me it was hateful.
THE animal?
POKSUKS. i posted it under one of his fb statuses congratulating currie on the hire. he said my name when telling me it was hateful. i really thought i was about to get daxed.
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http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/Kansas-State-Wildcats-oscar-Weber-Frank-Martin-John-Currie-new-hire-spells-big-trouble-040112
i had the animal read it. he told me it was hateful.
THE animal?
POKSUKS. i posted it under one of his fb statuses congratulating currie on the hire. he said my name when telling me it was hateful. i really thought i about to get daxed.
You're a hero.
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Coaches that win conference titles and national championships get to do whatever they want.
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http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/Kansas-State-Wildcats-oscar-Weber-Frank-Martin-John-Currie-new-hire-spells-big-trouble-040112
i had the animal read it. he told me it was hateful.
THE animal?
POKSUKS. i posted it under one of his fb statuses congratulating currie on the hire. he said my name when telling me it was hateful. i really thought i was about to get daxed.
PM link?
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Not sure where to put this, but have a friend who just attended a basketball camp in which Frank was a guest coach. Apparently Frank got kicked out of a game for being a real jerk to the ref, but refused to leave the court. So the camp director was called to come and escort Frank away. On his way out he told the ref that if no one was around he'd "take him out back and shoot him in the head."
:sdeek:
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99% sure that story is 99% bullshit.
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True or not, it's something Frank would do, so it's really bad news either way.
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Holy crap this board is stupid sometimes
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True or not, it's something Frank would do, so it's really bad news either way.
yep
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Pretty much what we already know. :zzz:
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frank is terrified of refs. so, unless that ref was a college kid type ref I don't believe it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6ptPEopoPE&t=1m26s
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The "he hasn't coached a game" argument is pretty embarrassing. Is this the company line in Bramlage?
Currie's line was that he's coached and won a shitload more games than Frank and accordingly is better.
Yeah, that was pretty damn stupid on Currie's part.
I don't like how KSU has framed the Weber hire. They won't come out and say why they hired him (obviously), but don't piss on me and tell me it's raining. I can compartmentalize the "why" and live with it, but it wasn't some sort of coup that we should all be doing cartwheels over.
The thing is, I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what we think. A fair amount (not all) of the national media that doesn't bother to pay close attention to us--think ESPN who doesn't know anything in-depth about our program--have eaten this hire up and called it a solid way to recover from Frank Martin leaving. As long as Currie's decision-making acumen is being praised nationally, our opinions mean nothing. The only time they ever will is if the big donors revolt, and the donors aren't going to revolt until at least year 3 or 4 if Weber sinks like most of us think he will.
Sure, Currie's torched his chances among schools that have a history of doing things under the table, but he's essentially raised his profile amongst schools that are obsessed with winning "the right way" or are about to get slammed/have been slammed by NCAA sanctions and need a new athletic director to come in and give an appearance of cleaning things up to the outside world. Considering how many schools are in the crosshairs of the NCAA these days, it's not necessarily a bad image for Currie to have.
Penn State fits that description perfectly. Did they hire a permanent AD or just an interim AD?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6ptPEopoPE&t=1m26s
I hate him
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6ptPEopoPE&t=1m26s
:frown:
I miss him more than he misses us, which is saying something.
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chin up, jakesie. oscar-ketball will not keep us from shining bright.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNK53bOOkaA&feature=youtu.be
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chin up, jakesie. oscar-ketball will not keep us from shining bright.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNK53bOOkaA&feature=youtu.be
Oh. My. God.
:love: :love: :love:
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I love angel, but I really expected him to be better at singing.
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I love angel, but I really expected him to be better at singing.
seriously, eff off.
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he didn't even know the words. frank would have made sure he knew the words. why pick a song that you don't know the words to? terrible decision making skills. currie is probably behind this.
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Good job supporting K-State.
Why should he support incompetence? Does that make any sense at all?
Maybe he is supporting K State. The sooner Weber is gone the sooner you can enjoy regular NCAA appearances.
I just ask one thing as a fellow college sports fan. Whether you want to throw your money away on an unenjoyable product in support of your team, just don't dellude yourself into thinking that you enjoy watching ugly, uncoordinated, and unskilled basketball. At that point you are hurting KSU because you will be enabling inadequacy.
#### oscar Weber. Right in his ear.
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What if he just really hated you guys and this is all a big practical joke on Illinois in the end? :dunno:
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What if he just really hated you guys and this is all a big practical joke on Illinois in the end? :dunno:
lol wut?
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came across these guys this weekend in chicago
http://chicago.metromix.com/events/mmxchi-chicagoten-alumni-challenge-bar-crawl-event
i approached the group of illinois alumni guys and asked them if they were mad that weber was gone. without flinching, the guy says "if oscar weber were here right now, i would stab him. we all would."
i was like, ya i get it that you're pissed he left and that he's ours now, no reason for violence :lol:
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man, they sound like jilted lovers. oh well, their loss is our gain.
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Currie decided frank was simply not worth the trouble (in curries opinion) of keeping around. If it was football, frank would have been on a much longer leash. Currie didn't do a thing to take care of frank beyond the absolutely necessary for a long period of time, basically begging him to take a job elsewhere. Currie made a simple risk/reward assessment, and basketball wasn't worth the "risk" (maybe a better word is headache). Most on here are already of course aware of all this, I just post it on response to the people who keep repeating the "frank left the first opportunity he had". This is true, but there were clear reasons forcing his hand. You could also even argue that frank deserved it. Both guys are ridiculously stubborn and came off as rough ridin' assholes in the whole situation. These characteristics are not surprising considering their respective professions, success, and personalities. It was simply not a relationship that was going to last. And it's perfectly reasonable to hate on both men.
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Curries whole flabbergasted "AW SUCKS I DUNNO WHAT HAPPENED GUYS I DID EVERYTHING I COULD" charade afterwards probably deserves a large share of hate and was sad to watch.
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sys, I think you can go ahead and put Benja on the Nazi watch list
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I loved frank so much
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Currie decided frank was simply not worth the trouble (in curries opinion) of keeping around. If it was football, frank would have been on a much longer leash. Currie didn't do a thing to take care of frank beyond the absolutely necessary for a long period of time, basically begging him to take a job elsewhere. Currie made a simple risk/reward assessment, and basketball wasn't worth the "risk" (maybe a better word is headache). Most on here are already of course aware of all this, I just post it on response to the people who keep repeating the "frank left the first opportunity he had". This is true, but there were clear reasons forcing his hand. You could also even argue that frank deserved it. Both guys are ridiculously stubborn and came off as rough ridin' assholes in the whole situation. These characteristics are not surprising considering their respective professions, success, and personalities. It was simply not a relationship that was going to last. And it's perfectly reasonable to hate on both men.
yep
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After Snyder 2011, I can't trust this board's Weber predictions.
i enjoyed this post. not because I agree with it, but it's good ol' fashioned bbs'ing.
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I should probably clarify a couple things. Everything I post is probably not admittedly 100% dead on, but I would bet it's pretty damn close. I used to work in the athletic dept as a lowly barely paid intern, but still
Keep in touch with many friends that have moved up in the ad since that point. This frank/currie situation really was pretty mumped. Martin's "loyalty" talk really wasn't bullshit. Frank really is from the rough ridin' streets, and lives by street morals. Currie is a money man. Again, this is nothing new, I just feel it needs to be stated because frank really could of been a great coach for us for a long while. But considering the dynamics between the two personalities, this crap was just never going to last. It's fascinating. Reality tv show material. I'll always love frank. But he's a stubborn bad person by definition. Currie is a good ad and has and will continue to do good thing for us. But he's a money man, and without a doubt a stubborn bad person as well. That's really all there is too it. Go state.
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I should probably clarify a couple things. Everything I post is probably not admittedly 100% dead on, but I would bet it's pretty damn close. I used to work in the athletic dept as a lowly barely paid intern, but still
Keep in touch with many friends that have moved up in the ad since that point. This frank/currie situation really was pretty mumped. Martin's "loyalty" talk really wasn't bullshit. Frank really is from the rough ridin' streets, and lives by street morals. Currie is a money man. Again, this is nothing new, I just feel it needs to be stated because frank really could of been a great coach for us for a long while. But considering the dynamics between the two personalities, this crap was just never going to last. It's fascinating. Reality tv show material. I'll always love frank. But he's a stubborn bad person by definition. Currie is a good ad and has and will continue to do good thing for us. But he's a money man, and without a doubt and stubborn rough ridin' bad person. Go state.
A million times this.
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It could have lasted if they weren't both complete dumbfucks. I think both could learn from the experience and maybe not be as big of dumbfucks in the future.
Chalking it up to, "well, their personalities just clashed" is bullshit and lets them both off the hook too easily.
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It could have lasted if they weren't both complete dumbfucks. I think both could learn from the experience and maybe not be as big of dumbfucks in the future.
Chalking it up to, "well, their personalities just clashed" is bullshit and lets them both off the hook too easily.
It became more important to each of them to "win" whatever conflict was going on than to act in the best interest of the university and themselves.
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It could have lasted if they weren't both complete dumbfucks. I think both could learn from the experience and maybe not be as big of dumbfucks in the future.
I totally agree
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So.....are we going to be going through the same conversation every week? 2 weeks? What are we looking at here?
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So.....are we going to be going through the same conversation every week? 2 weeks? What are we looking at here?
I think it's seriously almost run its course.
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So.....are we going to be going through the same conversation every week? 2 weeks? What are we looking at here?
This is Cat hoops for the next 6 years.
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So.....are we going to be going through the same conversation every week? 2 weeks? What are we looking at here?
Seems that way
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So.....are we going to be going through the same conversation every week? 2 weeks? What are we looking at here?
Just wait til the first bad loss. It'll be this conversation x10
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K state sports, as usual, is fascinating
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So.....are we going to be going through the same conversation every week? 2 weeks? What are we looking at here?
This is Cat hoops for the next 6 years.
Yeah
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Do you MHK'rs see Currie out and about?
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Do you MHK'rs see Currie out and about?
not once. saw oscar walking a dog yesterday.
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Do you MHK'rs see Currie out and about?
Saw Him at Early Editions Saturday. He comes into Dara's Sometimes.
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So.....are we going to be going through the same conversation every week? 2 weeks? What are we looking at here?
This is Cat hoops
Depressing but true. Hopefully apathy sets in and football doesn't suck.
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Do you MHK'rs see Currie out and about?
Saw Him at Early Editions Saturday. He comes into Dara's Sometimes.
What do you do?
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So.....are we going to be going through the same conversation every week? 2 weeks? What are we looking at here?
This is Cat hoops
Depressing but true. Hopefully apathy sets in and football doesn't suck.
Apathy has already set in. I would be way worse if I cared.
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Do you MHK'rs see Currie out and about?
Saw Him at Early Editions Saturday. He comes into Dara's Sometimes.
What do you do?
Lol. I can tell trim is the good kind of lawyer.
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It could have lasted if they weren't both complete dumbfucks. I think both could learn from the experience and maybe not be as big of dumbfucks in the future.
Chalking it up to, "well, their personalities just clashed" is bullshit and lets them both off the hook too easily.
It became more important to each of them to "win" whatever conflict was going on than to act in the best interest of the university and themselves.
Well yeah someone had to "win" it isn't a situation that would have gotten better by ignoring what was happening or just being passive aggressive. Currie won, he showed with the Jamar sitch that he swung the heaviest hammer.
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Do you MHK'rs see Currie out and about?
Saw Him at Early Editions Saturday. He comes into Dara's Sometimes.
What do you do?
Lol. I can tell trim is the good kind of lawyer.
He should at least be getting boo'd out of every random gas station or breakfast joint he's seen in. Some light PI sent him home from SC early (I'll acknowledge it also could've been him dying to get out of those jeans) and from even attending the Wichita Catbackers event that he was headlining. Make Manhattan suck for him.
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Saw Currie walk right in front of us on the mismatched-colored "endzone of death" last Saturday. Wanted to PI the living crap out of him, but he made sure he was flanked by his two small children as an obvious, yet effective, buffer. It's apparent that he's accustomed to being harassed by the way he hurriedly scurried by, staring at his feet the whole way, never looking up.
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Criminals/defendants often bring their kids to court hearings to curry (ha!) favor with opposing counsel and judges. I've learned to be unaffected by the tactic. Get cold-blooded this Saturday, paylor.
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Do you MHK'rs see Currie out and about?
I never see him. But then again, where would we run into one another?
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Do you MHK'rs see Currie out and about?
I never see him. But then again, where would we run into one another?
True. You would never go to Early Edition.
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Do you MHK'rs see Currie out and about?
I never see him. But then again, where would we run into one another?
True. You would never go to Early Edition.
I cannot think of one place other than the country club where I could possibly be where John would feel comfortable showing his face.
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Do you MHK'rs see Currie out and about?
I never see him. But then again, where would we run into one another?
True. You would never go to Early Edition.
I cannot think of one place other than the country club where I could possibly be where John would feel comfortable showing his face.
Dallas airport.
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Do you MHK'rs see Currie out and about?
I never see him. But then again, where would we run into one another?
True. You would never go to Early Edition.
I cannot think of one place other than the country club where I could possibly be where John would feel comfortable showing his face.
Dallas airport.
odds would be astronomical. He would not go to termy D.
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So.....are we going to be going through the same conversation every week? 2 weeks? What are we looking at here?
I think it's seriously almost run its course.
Says the guy who bumped the thread after it had been dormant for a week :dubious:
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Do you MHK'rs see Currie out and about?
not once. saw oscar walking a dog yesterday.
Trying to build his resume, I see.
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I can't really boo him out of my work, and he was trying to chat up my Dad at early editions and he was there with his family so that was out of the question. I have also ran into oscar a few times and he wasn't really friendly.
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I can't really boo him out of my work, and he was trying to chat up my Dad at early editions and he was there with his family so that was out of the question. I have also ran into oscar a few times and he wasn't really friendly.
Who was that tuck that was convinced Bubbles was better with people presumably because he's middle aged and white, one of us?
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I can't really boo him out of my work, and he was trying to chat up my Dad at early editions and he was there with his family so that was out of the question. I have also ran into oscar a few times and he wasn't really friendly.
Who was that tuck that was convinced Bubbles was better with people presumably because he's middle aged and white, one of us?
Kind of. It was a new goEMAW poster. He's since been run off.
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So.....are we going to be going through the same conversation every week? 2 weeks? What are we looking at here?
I think it's seriously almost run its course.
Says the guy who bumped the thread after it had been dormant for a week :dubious:
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It's seriously one of the first threads that I've read just about every post of in a long time. Situations like this are where goEMAW truly shines. MIR, Trim, Pete and in a different way sys are really good at this.
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I can't really boo him out of my work, and he was trying to chat up my Dad at early editions and he was there with his family so that was out of the question. I have also ran into oscar a few times and he wasn't really friendly.
Why do at least 2 of our posters think Currie can't be PI'd when he has family around? What better time to PI him out of town? Mary Ellen Louise Susan Currie will banish him to the couch for two weeks if she has to endure collateral PI.
jdagg, if you'd get in troubs for blatantly booing in work, you can at least subtly make it apparent to Currie that he's not welcome. You can't imagine the PI I did at my part-time college jobs, before "PI" even existed.
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man Trim. You are the best at PI'ing. I mean, just the greatest that ever was.
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man Trim. You are the best at PI'ing. I mean, just the greatest that ever was.
Everyone has it in them, they just need proper motivation.
OT: actual picture of Currie visiting jdagg at Dara's.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.miaminewtimes.com%2Fshortorder%2FGasAttendant_old.jpg&hash=9d40e1244ea2bf0d1273aecef4582ab8a136b07e)
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When he asks for that pack of clove cigs, tell him "sorry, just RAN OUT." (even though you have tons omg!)
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When he asks for that pack of clove cigs, tell him "sorry, just RAN OUT." (even though you have tons omg!)
Then blame Learfield.
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When he asks for that pack of clove cigs, tell him "sorry, just RAN OUT." (even though you have tons omg!)
we've already had this revelation i feel like, but :D anyway
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I can't believe no one in this thread has considered poisoning Currie's trees.
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I can't really boo him out of my work, and he was trying to chat up my Dad at early editions and he was there with his family so that was out of the question. I have also ran into oscar a few times and he wasn't really friendly.
don't be a bitch, jdagg2003. as trim said, PI'ing when the family around is a perfect opportunity to really get into his head. You're either on this train or not. no middle grounds in the fight for freedom/ksucats
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JFC dude I am not saying he is the best coach ever or that he didn't struggle at Illinois in some years. Yes, at Illinois he had losing seasons. I am aware, never denied it. You'll notice that I have never once in any thread posted that I was in favor of the hire. That isn't the point. If/when he starts having losing seasons or whatever here, you should protest it however you'd like to do so. If I am not mistaken, he has not yet lost a game at K-State. That's all I'm saying.
qft
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JFC dude I am not saying he is the best coach ever or that he didn't struggle at Illinois in some years. Yes, at Illinois he had losing seasons. I am aware, never denied it. You'll notice that I have never once in any thread posted that I was in favor of the hire. That isn't the point. If/when he starts having losing seasons or whatever here, you should protest it however you'd like to do so. If I am not mistaken, he has not yet lost a game at K-State. That's all I'm saying.
qft
dat bump :love:
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Can someone tell captian crap to tell currie at the office tomorrow that he "F"'d up this weber hire :billdance: :buh-bye:
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put this piece of crap game out of its misery
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What are oscar's excuses for this one?
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Probly Luked, but how in rough ridin hell does Weber have ANY kind of buyout when he was unemployed. Currie mushed us with titletown. Now we are paying the ultimate price.
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What are oscar's excuses for this one?
See the " Reasons we might get f'g EMBARASSED at TCU " thread. It has all the answers to your question.
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oscar Weber: "I just want guys that care. That’s all I want, guys that care and want to play for K-State."
JFC
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oscar Weber: "I just want guys that care. That’s all I want, guys that care and want to play for K-State."
JFC
:buh-bye:
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Coaches who don't take responsibility are the absolute worst. There is no way we don't lose a transfer or two.
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wow. wetwillie, i'm starting to see things from your point of view.
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oscar Weber: "I just want guys that care. That’s all I want, guys that care and want to play for K-State."
JFC
:facepalm:
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oscar Weber: "I just want guys that care. That’s all I want, guys that care and want to play for K-State."
JFC
How about recruiting some then oscar?
Oh wait...
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It's clear oscar is playing chess. Foster, Iwo are pawns being sacrificed. He figured out the only way to get a fifth year is to clean house next year so that fans will give his "young team" a pass.
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What the hell has happened to news abou weber basketball camps that was the highlight news of the summer. I am sooooooo sad. Peaved in fact. Hundreds of Kansas youth are not being recognized for enduring Happy Squirrel Oscar School of Basketball. Oh, the sacrifice of being an elite program now.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/hoopvision68/status/1072161035400986624/photo/1
ICYMI, oscar Weber is on the correct side of the "clutch" coach line. And he also plays a lot of close games.
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slightly better than coach K, but not near as good as Mike Davis