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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Other Sports (Tiger's Back) => Topic started by: john "teach me how to" dougie on May 02, 2012, 01:16:56 PM
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Being reported he committed suicide. Sad.
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Meanwhile, at ESPN:
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A fate many more former nfl players will suffer for the same exact reason
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Say Ow
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Gunshot wound to the chest. Another NFL'er (can't remember who) also shot himself in the chest a few years ago so that his brain could be used for concussion research.
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http://www.cbs8.com/story/18063612/tmz-possible-shooting-involving-junior-seau (http://www.cbs8.com/story/18063612/tmz-possible-shooting-involving-junior-seau)
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i can't feel sorry for people who kill themselves.
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i can't feel sorry for people who kill themselves.
you can feel sorry for their families.
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i can't feel sorry for people who kill themselves.
you can feel sorry for their families.
absolutely. although they probably should have intervened and made sure he got medical help if he was severely depressed.
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i can't feel sorry for people who kill themselves.
you can feel sorry for their families.
absolutely. although they probably should have intervened and made sure he got medical help if he was severely depressed.
They can, but who is to say whether or not they knew about this?
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i can't feel sorry for people who kill themselves.
you do realize that there are more than likely chemical elements at play here, caused by the excessive head trauma of playing in the NFL? as in, something fundamentally wrong with how his brain was functioning...
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A couple of years ago he drove his SUV off a cliff onto the beach. He said he was drunk and fell asleep, but looking back, it seems like he was probably trying to kill himself since he was parked before going over.
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A couple of years ago he drove his SUV off a cliff onto the beach. He said he was drunk and fell asleep, but looking back, it seems like he was probably trying to kill himself since he was parked before going over.
had the same thought
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i can't feel sorry for people who kill themselves.
you do realize that there are more than likely chemical elements at play here, caused by the excessive head trauma of playing in the NFL? as in, something fundamentally wrong with how his brain was functioning...
Obviously. Although unless he has spent his post-retirement life in hiding from his family and friends, they should have been able to notice signs of something wrong and gotten him medical help.
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i can't feel sorry for people who kill themselves.
you do realize that there are more than likely chemical elements at play here, caused by the excessive head trauma of playing in the NFL? as in, something fundamentally wrong with how his brain was functioning...
Whatever you say Chris Benoit.
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Anybody else find it increadibly ironic that this happened the same day Goddell handed down the player suspensions for bountygate?
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Did you see the interview with his mom? Shits so sad, she didnt even get a text... Prayers to the fam.
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Seau stuff on CNN today:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/10/health/seau-brain-disease/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 (http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/10/health/seau-brain-disease/index.html?hpt=hp_t3)
Star NFL linebacker Junior Seau -- just 43 years old when he took his own life last May -- suffered from chronic traumatic encephalopathy, a neurodegenerative brain disease that can follow multiple hits to the head, the National Institutes of Health said Thursday.
No surprise here.
Dr. Ann McKee, the director of neuropathology at VA Boston, who was not involved in this case, has looked at CTE in most of the NFL players' brains studied so far. In a recent study she co-authored, the researchers found CTE in the brains of 34 of 35 NFL players.
Wow, on the 34 out of 35. So, this is definitive to the point where the league can't ignore this forever. Something is going to change. I mean, what guarantees that to me is:
What may be a surprise to some is that Seau was never diagnosed with a concussion in all the decades he played football.
I wouldn't think that the NFL could lean on their concussion rules for much longer.
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So is it time for the NFL to just go away?
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Well boys, enjoy watching football while you can. 30 years from now you'll all be soccer fans!!! :excited:
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this sucks. i love football and don't want anything to happen to it, but.....man. :frown:
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Well boys, enjoy watching football while you can. 30 years from now you'll all be soccer fans!!! :excited:
Nope, studies out this summer say that soccer is just as bad. I remember hearing an NPR deal this summer that said a lot of Youth teams and some minor leagues are already limiting the amount of headers in practice.
The soccer studies said that the hard hits aren't the ones that get the athletes. It's the repeated smaller ones that happen over and over and over, like headers.
There was talk this summer in the NFL about one solution to help minimize it amongst linemen is to eliminate the down stance and make them all start standing to help eliminate the repeated small contact on their helmets.
Obvs there is a bunch that we don't know about this, but given the frequency it is coming up, the large emphasis put on it, as well as the emphasis of sports amongst youth these days, you gotta think that we are on the threshold of some major effort to better understand this and react to it.
Something is going to change. Maybe not at the NFL level, but I would bet heavily that it will on the HS and younger crowd very soon.
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Well boys, enjoy watching football while you can. 30 years from now you'll all be soccer fans!!! :excited:
Nope, studies out this summer say that soccer is just as bad. I remember hearing an NPR deal this summer that said a lot of Youth teams and some minor leagues are already limiting the amount of headers in practice.
The soccer studies said that the hard hits aren't the ones that get the athletes. It's the repeated smaller ones that happen over and over and over, like headers.
There was talk this summer in the NFL about one solution to help minimize it amongst linemen is to eliminate the down stance and make them all start standing to help eliminate the repeated small contact on their helmets.
Obvs there is a bunch that we don't know about this, but given the frequency it is coming up, the large emphasis put on it, as well as the emphasis of sports amongst youth these days, you gotta think that we are on the threshold of some major effort to better understand this and react to it.
Something is going to change. Maybe not at the NFL level, but I would bet heavily that it will on the HS and younger crowd very soon.
soccer being harder on the brain is malarkey.
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I would like to see a study on head trauma suffered by people who just play in high school and college. I would think that the people who hang up their cleats after just a few years of playing are in far better shape than those who make a career out of it. I really don't care as much about professional football and soccer going away as I would about amateur football and soccer.
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Well boys, enjoy watching football while you can. 30 years from now you'll all be soccer fans!!! :excited:
Nope, studies out this summer say that soccer is just as bad. I remember hearing an NPR deal this summer that said a lot of Youth teams and some minor leagues are already limiting the amount of headers in practice.
The soccer studies said that the hard hits aren't the ones that get the athletes. It's the repeated smaller ones that happen over and over and over, like headers.
There was talk this summer in the NFL about one solution to help minimize it amongst linemen is to eliminate the down stance and make them all start standing to help eliminate the repeated small contact on their helmets.
Obvs there is a bunch that we don't know about this, but given the frequency it is coming up, the large emphasis put on it, as well as the emphasis of sports amongst youth these days, you gotta think that we are on the threshold of some major effort to better understand this and react to it.
Something is going to change. Maybe not at the NFL level, but I would bet heavily that it will on the HS and younger crowd very soon.
soccer being harder on the brain is malarkey.
Not harder on the brain, but equally as bad.
Repeated small movements of the brain in the head is what that soccer study noted. I would assume if you look at it by posision rather than simply by sport, there would be a difference by position. Linemen vs punter, midfielder vs goalie, etc.
All that said, I haven't heard of a soccer player killing themselves and ending up having this diagnosis.
I do know that it seems both sports are looking at this pretty hard.
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its worse on young brains.
maybe dont start tackle football until college
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Maybe soccer players should start wearing leather helmets.
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I would like to see a study on head trauma suffered by people who just play in high school and college. I would think that the people who hang up their cleats after just a few years of playing are in far better shape than those who make a career out of it. I really don't care as much about professional football and soccer going away as I would about amateur football and soccer.
Yeah.
As far as football goes, I wouldn't be surprised if we learned that college was worse than the pros given the new NFL work rules about how they can only hit something like 14 days out of the season during practice now, where college kids hit like crazy all the time.
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I would like to see a study on head trauma suffered by people who just play in high school and college. I would think that the people who hang up their cleats after just a few years of playing are in far better shape than those who make a career out of it. I really don't care as much about professional football and soccer going away as I would about amateur football and soccer.
Yeah.
As far as football goes, I wouldn't be surprised if we learned that college was worse than the pros given the new NFL work rules about how they can only hit something like 14 days out of the season during practice now, where college kids hit like crazy all the time.
Seeing as how you have to play college ball to get to the pros, and these studies mostly pertain to long-term effects, I'm betting the pros still come out much worse. It would be interesting if somebody would analyze the brains of people who just played 4 years of high school ball. That would include a large percentage of the male population in the US, and you don't hear much about them getting brain damage. Maybe the solution is to limit lifetime exposure. Setting the retirement age at 27 might make some of these head injury statistics much easier to swallow.
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I would like to see a study on head trauma suffered by people who just play in high school and college. I would think that the people who hang up their cleats after just a few years of playing are in far better shape than those who make a career out of it. I really don't care as much about professional football and soccer going away as I would about amateur football and soccer.
Yeah.
As far as football goes, I wouldn't be surprised if we learned that college was worse than the pros given the new NFL work rules about how they can only hit something like 14 days out of the season during practice now, where college kids hit like crazy all the time.
Seeing as how you have to play college ball to get to the pros, and these studies mostly pertain to long-term effects, I'm betting the pros still come out much worse. It would be interesting if somebody would analyze the brains of people who just played 4 years of high school ball. That would include a large percentage of the male population in the US, and you don't hear much about them getting brain damage. Maybe the solution is to limit lifetime exposure. Setting the retirement age at 27 might make some of these head injury statistics much easier to swallow.
Except that, given the option of making millions of dollars playing pro football, very few players are going to be cool with mandatory retirement at 27. Will not happen.
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I would like to see a study on head trauma suffered by people who just play in high school and college. I would think that the people who hang up their cleats after just a few years of playing are in far better shape than those who make a career out of it. I really don't care as much about professional football and soccer going away as I would about amateur football and soccer.
Yeah.
As far as football goes, I wouldn't be surprised if we learned that college was worse than the pros given the new NFL work rules about how they can only hit something like 14 days out of the season during practice now, where college kids hit like crazy all the time.
Seeing as how you have to play college ball to get to the pros, and these studies mostly pertain to long-term effects, I'm betting the pros still come out much worse. It would be interesting if somebody would analyze the brains of people who just played 4 years of high school ball. That would include a large percentage of the male population in the US, and you don't hear much about them getting brain damage. Maybe the solution is to limit lifetime exposure. Setting the retirement age at 27 might make some of these head injury statistics much easier to swallow.
Except that, given the option of making millions of dollars playing pro football, very few players are going to be cool with mandatory retirement at 27. Will not happen.
Something needs to happen or the NFL will end up just going away completely.
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I would like to see a study on head trauma suffered by people who just play in high school and college. I would think that the people who hang up their cleats after just a few years of playing are in far better shape than those who make a career out of it. I really don't care as much about professional football and soccer going away as I would about amateur football and soccer.
Yeah.
As far as football goes, I wouldn't be surprised if we learned that college was worse than the pros given the new NFL work rules about how they can only hit something like 14 days out of the season during practice now, where college kids hit like crazy all the time.
Seeing as how you have to play college ball to get to the pros, and these studies mostly pertain to long-term effects, I'm betting the pros still come out much worse. It would be interesting if somebody would analyze the brains of people who just played 4 years of high school ball. That would include a large percentage of the male population in the US, and you don't hear much about them getting brain damage. Maybe the solution is to limit lifetime exposure. Setting the retirement age at 27 might make some of these head injury statistics much easier to swallow.
There are far more ppl that play in college and don't go to the pros than do. Study some of them. :dunno:
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I doubt it. At this point players know the risks, and aren't exactly lining up to grab their retirement papers. Nobody is forcing them to keep playing. I guess it could die at the youth level first, but there will be enough studies saying that HS football isn't that bad a risk, and I don't see it happening. Look at the cigars thread and decide if you think college football is ever going away.
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