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doesn't even break in, in the top 100 in FBS :sdeek:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1145292-power-ranking-all-124-college-football-stadiums/page/20
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BSFS on the other hand....
top 40
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1145292-power-ranking-all-124-college-football-stadiums/page/90
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Oh man I wonder where we'll be after the stadium expansion. :love:
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Hey scottwildcat, nothing personal, but make sure your friends stay out of BSFS this upcoming season. If they break all the sinks in there like they did the OOD, we could drop out of the top 50. TIA.
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He is kidding Scott. Party on bruh
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it's pretty amazing to consider that our football stadium (as it is right now) is widely regarded as one of the best in the nation. just think what the opinion will be after we pump another 100 million into it. top 10. so blessed.
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Chris Petersen has to be licking his lips at the thought of coaching here.
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Hey scottwildcat, nothing personal, but make sure your friends stay out of BSFS this upcoming season. If they break all the sinks in there like they did the OOD, we could drop out of the top 50. TIA.
Hey Stevesie60, stevedave and everyone else wanted us to "burn it down" Me and my friends are faithful soldiers in the stevedave and goEMAW army
He is kidding Scott. Party on bruh
Will do Limestone...will do
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nothing new here.
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so hard to stay humble. but we must.
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How in the crap is the Flood aggies Pool, nicer than the "Bill"? :jerk:
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those nachos yesterday were garbage as well
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what a trashy program, town, and stadium.
the bill on the other hand... so blessed :love:
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Why the eff did they use a pic of BSFS from before the erector set and when we still had that huge hill of a field?
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Still 4 spots behind a stadium on a flood plain....I guess BR views a flood plain > than a football stadium on a pasture.... :cool:
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BSFS needs better food options - deep fried everything available on a stick would be nice. This list also has flood aggy ahead of the Bill, so can't be taken seriously. Squawk stadium is one of the worst I've ever seen. Would not make top 100 high school stadiums in Texas.
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How in the crap is the Flood aggies Pool, nicer than the "Bill"? :jerk:
Bleacher Report :dunno:
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The stadium is located in a perfect college town however.
:love: :love: :love:
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The stadium is located in a perfect college town however.
:love: :love: :love:
'GB!
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BTW, that list is a joke.
:flush:
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BTW, that list is a joke.
:flush:
I don't know. Bleacher report is a pretty respected publication.
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BTW, that list is a joke.
:flush:
Give us one thing Memorial has that BSFS does not. (and the rats that eat the left over burnt popcorn from Allen don't count)
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BTW, that list is a joke.
:flush:
Give us on thing Memorial has that BSFS does not. (and the rats that eat the left over burnt popcorn from Allen don't count)
a track
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BTW, that list is a joke.
:flush:
Give us on thing Memorial has that BSFS does not. (and the rats that eat the left over burnt popcorn from Allen don't count)
a track
World record for plate of nachos.
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beems, lawrence is not a college town. It's basicallly Johnson County
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Wut
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JCCC Seco
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BTW, that list is a joke.
:flush:
Give us one thing Memorial has that BSFS does not. (and the rats that eat the left over burnt popcorn from Allen don't count)
The worst team in D-I
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Urine smell.
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Give us one thing Memorial has that BSFS does not. (and the rats that eat the left over burnt popcorn from Allen don't count)
Leg room
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free deoderant
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kjict.co.uk%2Fcmc%2F%2Fimages%2Flazboy_lisbon_riser_recliner.jpg&hash=661536199eff5fc4ca9324fe6be30699b8833fb7)
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poor people
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BTW, that list is a joke.
:flush:
Give us one thing Memorial has that BSFS does not. (and the rats that eat the left over burnt popcorn from Allen don't count)
Free tickets
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Clip art.
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Gridiron Club Coming Fall 2010!
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(1) On campus location right next to a bunch of bars and student housing.
(2) Tradition
(3) Hills
(4) Beautiful women
(5) The absence of pig crap and other farm animal crap in the air
(6) A press box that stretches from 20 to 20, not some little midget box like K-State's
(7) Orange Bowl trophies
(8) A brand new $35 million football complex
(9) Potter Lake
(10) Places to tailgate other than a giant parking lot
:thumbs:
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(1) On campus location right next to a bunch of bars and student housing.
(2) Tradition
(3) Hills
(4) Beautiful women
(5) The absence of pig crap and other farm animal crap in the air
(6) A press box that stretches from 20 to 20, not some little midget box like K-State's
(7) Orange Bowl trophies
(8) A brand new $35 million football complex
(9) Potter Lake
(10) Places to tailgate other than a giant parking lot
:thumbs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9vZWEAP-7A
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(1) On campus location right next to a bunch of bars and student housing.
(2) Tradition
(3) Hills
(4) Beautiful women
(5) The absence of pig crap and other farm animal crap in the air
(6) A press box that stretches from 20 to 20, not some little midget box like K-State's
(7) Orange Bowl trophies
(8) A brand new $35 million football complex
(9) Potter Lake
(10) Places to tailgate other than a giant parking lot
:thumbs:
pfffft
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Fantastic list :thumbs:
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A bridge to no where!
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Maybe there are like 4 beautiful women. To be fair, thats not bad considering there are about 25 people at the game total.
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Amazing fan support for K-State:
(https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d011113664&view=att&th=136e1424074ac5ce&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw)
Maybe someday those great fans will be able to average over 50,000 in one season.
:cheers:
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(2) Tradition
:lol:
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(2) Tradition
:lol:
I know, it's hard to pic just one, but if I had to, that would have been it.
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rough ridin' Garbage. The place is old looking. Needs an entire makeover.
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Oldest football stadium west of the Mississippi. Meanwhile, K-State fans celebrate a hole in the ground surrounded by sheep pens.
:lol:
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Oldest football stadium west of the Mississippi. Meanwhile, K-State fans celebrate a hole in the ground surrounded by sheep pens.
:lol:
Old does not equal tradition. It means shitty and too poor to update
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Loving something horrible just because it is old is just plain Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
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Memorial Stadium was renovated and updated in 2001. Football complex finished in '08. Next.
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Oldest football stadium west of the Mississippi. Meanwhile, K-State fans celebrate a hole in the ground surrounded by sheep pens.
:lol:
And also surrounded by ppl, unlike KU. I know it's crazy. Imagine thousands standing around your football stadium to tailgate. You guys should look into that sometime.
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IT'S NOT "UGLY," IT'S "TRADITIONAL," bad person.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusctrojans.cstv.com%2Fblog%2FKU-Football.jpg&hash=213be9507cba352055b15dcbd7982aa79a6ce8e8)
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Memorial Stadium was renovated and updated in 2001. Football complex finished in '08. Next.
Why does it still look so shitty then?
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RENOVATIONS!
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RENOVATIONS!
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.lawrence.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2008%2F06%2F24%2Fku_luxury_section_12_t440.jpg%3F9e2a24ba44807f8f9b96aad7c4082bf6ded075dc&hash=3497a64612b326472fb69e84beade9e1b736270c)
Yeah, that isn't the actual luxury section. It was a mock version to allow people to test it out before they bought season tickets.
(https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d011113664&view=att&th=136e15237b7cb37b&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw)
(https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d011113664&view=att&th=136e1526ef111444&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw)
Like I've said before, once KU does another renovation to Memorial Stadium and adds the gridiron club, it will be one of the 25 best college stadiums in the country. The on campus setting and the overall location can't be matched by any other stadium in the Big 12. K-State has a generic hole in the ground stadium surrounded by a parking lot, and I know deep down inside that it kills you guys.
:love:
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Oldest football stadium west of the Mississippi. Meanwhile, K-State fans celebrate a hole in the ground surrounded by sheep pens.
:lol:
And also surrounded by ppl, unlike KU. I know it's crazy. Imagine thousands standing around your football stadium to tailgate. You guys should look into that sometime.
HUR HUR HUR!!!
(https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d011113664&view=att&th=136e1424074ac5ce&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw)
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RENOVATIONS!
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.lawrence.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2008%2F06%2F24%2Fku_luxury_section_12_t440.jpg%3F9e2a24ba44807f8f9b96aad7c4082bf6ded075dc&hash=3497a64612b326472fb69e84beade9e1b736270c)
Yeah, that isn't the actual luxury section. It was a mock version to allow people to test it out before they bought season tickets.
(https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d011113664&view=att&th=136e15237b7cb37b&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw)
(https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d011113664&view=att&th=136e1526ef111444&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw)
Like I've said before, once KU does another renovation to Memorial Stadium and adds the gridiron club, it will be one of the 25 best college stadiums in the country. The on campus setting and the overall location can't be matched by any other stadium in the Big 12. K-State has a generic hole in the ground stadium surrounded by a parking lot, and I know deep down inside that it kills you guys.
:love:
Fall 2010 can't get here soon enough
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Beems, figure out how to post pictures. Nobody knows what the hell you're referencing.
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IT'S NOT "UGLY," IT'S "TRADITIONAL," bad person.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusctrojans.cstv.com%2Fblog%2FKU-Football.jpg&hash=213be9507cba352055b15dcbd7982aa79a6ce8e8)
Go take a picture of K-State's stadium on a cold, rainy day, particularly one from the sheep lot. It will look just as bad, if not worse. This is the west side of Memorial Stadium, similar to what the east side will look like after renovation.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.treanorarchitects.com%2Fstatic%2Fmedia%2Fphotos%2FMemorialStadium-03.jpg&hash=9776110b105a487e76aad8585990de6633e89e41)
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusctrojans.cstv.com%2Fblog%2FKU-Football.jpg&hash=213be9507cba352055b15dcbd7982aa79a6ce8e8)
Looks like a game day.
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RENOVATIONS!
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.lawrence.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2008%2F06%2F24%2Fku_luxury_section_12_t440.jpg%3F9e2a24ba44807f8f9b96aad7c4082bf6ded075dc&hash=3497a64612b326472fb69e84beade9e1b736270c)
Yeah, that isn't the actual luxury section. It was a mock version to allow people to test it out before they bought season tickets.
(https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d011113664&view=att&th=136e15237b7cb37b&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw)
(https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d011113664&view=att&th=136e1526ef111444&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw)
Like I've said before, once KU does another renovation to Memorial Stadium and adds the gridiron club, it will be one of the 25 best college stadiums in the country. The on campus setting and the overall location can't be matched by any other stadium in the Big 12. K-State has a generic hole in the ground stadium surrounded by a parking lot, and I know deep down inside that it kills you guys.
:love:
Fall 2010 can't get here soon enough
I'm sure your guys' new basketball facility will almost be complete by 2013.
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I'm sure your guys' new basketball facility will almost be complete by 2013.
Nope June 2012 :gocho:
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Hey guys, please keep ignoring the fact that KU and K-State's attendance numbers are virtually identical. Keep making references to empty stadiums, even though KU has just as good of attendance as K-State.
(https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d011113664&view=att&th=136e1424074ac5ce&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw)
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I'm sure your guys' new basketball facility will almost be complete by 2013.
lol
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I'm sure your guys' new basketball facility will almost be complete by 2013.
Nope June 2012 :gocho:
Whoa... congrats on that one. That's big time. It only took what... ten years or so after the initial plans were on the drawing board?
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Hey guys, please keep ignoring the fact that KU and K-State's attendance numbers are virtually identical. Keep making references to empty stadiums, even though KU has just as good of attendance as K-State.
(https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d011113664&view=att&th=136e1424074ac5ce&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw)
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Yeah but isn't K.U all "elite" and stuff ? :dunno:
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I'm sure your guys' new basketball facility will almost be complete by 2013.
Nope June 2012 :gocho:
Whoa... congrats on that one. That's big time. It only took what... ten years or so after the initial plans were on the drawing board?
Actually it took about 10 months.
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Hey guys, please keep ignoring the fact that KU and K-State's attendance numbers are virtually identical. Keep making references to empty stadiums, even though KU has just as good of attendance as K-State.
(https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d011113664&view=att&th=136e1424074ac5ce&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw)
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Operative word is "attendance" . . . phognet talking points always like to play that one, usually forgetting that at ku for those games that increase the season attendance average, thousands of tickets have been given away.
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Three pages over a rough ridin' Bleacher Report article :lol:
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Oldest football stadium west of the Mississippi. Meanwhile, K-State fans celebrate a hole in the ground surrounded by sheep pens.
:lol:
Old does not equal tradition. It means shitty and too poor to update
:love:
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Speaking of parking lots, if and when ku EVER gets that stand alone track (8 years and counting now . . . actually longer) and gets to move the field event area . . . Cheyenne Zulu is going to extend the East Parking lot all the way across the entire East side of Memorial Fall Out Shelter, just as fast as he can.
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Give us one thing Memorial has that BSFS does not. (and the rats that eat the left over burnt popcorn from Allen don't count)
Leg room
Big 12 championship
National prominence
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I'm sure your guys' new basketball facility will almost be complete by 2013.
Nope June 2012 :gocho:
Whoa... congrats on that one. That's big time. It only took what... ten years or so after the initial plans were on the drawing board?
Actually it took about 10 months.
LOL. Huggins was begging for it back in '06.
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Glen Mason asked for a football complex like Vanier in 1995 (it was actually after the Bowl Season of 1992, but most phognet talking points tend to forget that) . . . had he stayed around THIRTEEN more years, he would have gotten it . . . Mangino re-asked for one in 2002.
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Glen Mason asked for a football complex like Vanier in 1995 (it was actually after the Bowl Season of 1992, but most phognet talking points tend to forget that) . . . had he stayed around THIRTEEN more years, he would have gotten it . . . Mangino re-asked for one in 2002.
I'm sure oscar Weber will put the new basketball facility to good use. All of those 2 and 3-star recruits won't know what to do with themselves once they get a glimpse of that place.
:love:
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Glen Mason asked for a football complex like Vanier in 1995 (it was actually after the Bowl Season of 1992, but most phognet talking points tend to forget that) . . . had he stayed around THIRTEEN more years, he would have gotten it . . . Mangino re-asked for one in 2002.
I'm sure oscar Weber will put the new basketball facility to good use. All of those 2 and 3-star recruits won't know what to do with themselves once they get a glimpse of that place.
:love:
Warning PepperJax Jedi Mind Tricks . . . WARNING!!
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Glen Mason asked for a football complex like Vanier in 1995 (it was actually after the Bowl Season of 1992, but most phognet talking points tend to forget that) . . . had he stayed around THIRTEEN more years, he would have gotten it . . . Mangino re-asked for one in 2002.
I'm sure oscar Weber will put the new basketball facility to good use. All of those 2 and 3-star recruits won't know what to do with themselves once they get a glimpse of that place.
:love:
Warning PepperJax Jedi Mind Tricks . . . WARNING!!
I don't blame beems at all for being incredibloy butthurt about ku's disgusting facilities.
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Anyone have the picture of Weird Robert next to the sheep pens? Post Rating (1 vote)
You know, the one of K-State's stadium, where Weird Robert and the sheep are in the foreground. TIA.
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Good god, beems. That's just embarrassing.
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Yeah, that isn't the actual luxury section. It was a mock version to allow people to test it out before they bought season tickets.
(https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d011113664&view=att&th=136e15237b7cb37b&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw)
(https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d011113664&view=att&th=136e1526ef111444&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw)
Like I've said before, once KU does another renovation to Memorial Stadium and adds the gridiron club, it will be one of the 25 best college stadiums in the country. The on campus setting and the overall location can't be matched by any other stadium in the Big 12. K-State has a generic hole in the ground stadium surrounded by a parking lot, and I know deep down inside that it kills you guys.
:love:
DKR being right in front of the best state capitol in the country absolutely clowns KUs location.
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i do really, really like how the location is walking distance from mass. other than that it's horrible. student ghettos to the west and south. hill to the north and dorms to the east.
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RENOVATIONS!
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Yeah, that isn't the actual luxury section. It was a mock version to allow people to test it out before they bought season tickets.
(https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d011113664&view=att&th=136e15237b7cb37b&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw)
(https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d011113664&view=att&th=136e1526ef111444&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw)
K-State has a generic hole in the ground stadium surrounded by a parking lot, and I know deep down inside that it kills you guys.
:love:
Ya Beems- you know how we all hate parking lots, dumbass. And that generic hole in the ground is 10x nicer than memorial, and will be even after your gridiron club gets done in 20 years.
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Poorest university in the Big 12:
Endowments
See also: List of U.S. colleges and universities by endowment
Texas (System-wide) - $17.1 billion
Kansas (System-wide) - $1.3 billion
Oklahoma - $1.2 billion
Missouri (System-wide) - 1.1 billion
Baylor - $1.0 billion
Texas Tech (System-wide) - $891 million
Iowa State - $612 million
Oklahoma State - $443 million
Kansas State - $338 million
Worst athletic department in the Big 12:
National team titles by institution
School - Number - NCAA Championships
Oklahoma State - 50 - NCAA(50)
Texas - 48 - NCAA(40)
Oklahoma - 26 - NCAA(19)
Iowa State - 19 - NCAA(13)
Texas A&M - 13 - NCAA(11)
Kansas - 12 - NCAA(10)
Baylor - 3 - NCAA(2)
Missouri - 2 - NCAA(2)
Texas Tech - 1 - NCAA(1)
Kansas State - 0 - NCAA(0)
Big 12 Conference titles by school
Texas - 115 (122 including 7 football division championships)
Texas A&M - 53 (56 including 3 football division championships)
Oklahoma - 39 (47 including 8 football division championships)
Oklahoma State - 43 (44 including 1 football division championship)
Baylor - 42
Kansas - 24 (25 including 1 football division championship)
Iowa State - 12 (13 including 1 football division championship)
Texas Tech - 11 (12 including 1 football division championship)
Missouri - 9 (12 including 3 football division championships)
Kansas State - 7 (11 including 4 football division championships)
K-State belongs in the WAC.
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Lets see here...
KU Athletic Complex- Built 2008
KSU Athletic Complex- Rennovated 2008
KU football stadium- Rennovated over a decade ago with none in the near future
KSU football stadium- Rennovated less than a decade ago with MAJOR ones in progress.
Also KU's Endowment doesnt make them rich, because your university loses money, while KSU's makes money, with charging less tuition.
Sorry, but overall KSU is the best university to go to in the state, and enrollment figures are proving taht trend.
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LOL, please, we have way more Big 12 titles than TCU and WVU, combined. NEXT.
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Like I said, I don't blame him for being furious. That stadium is a joke.
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:lol:
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He tried to change the subject 3 different ways at once, that has to be a new record. Dax, is there reliable football ticket rev numbers available for the universities?
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He tried to change the subject 3 different ways at once, that has to be a new record. Dax, is there reliable football ticket rev numbers available for the universities?
Oh sure. But its all calculated differently at different schools . . . phognet finally fell to that talking point when it was shown that K-State blew away ku in net revenue last year, suddenly they were all on the "its calculated differently at various schools" bandwagon.
Beems is just pissed that the largest self funded facilities project in Kansas Board of Regent Schools history breaks ground this Saturday . . . at K-State.
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i've enjoyed this thread. thanks to all involved.
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This thread is great. But seriously, Beems, please stop trying to convince yourself that KU's stadium isn't a piece of crap.
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Poorest university in the Big 12:
Endowments
See also: List of U.S. colleges and universities by endowment
Texas (System-wide) - $17.1 billion
Kansas (System-wide) - $1.3 billion
Oklahoma - $1.2 billion
Missouri (System-wide) - 1.1 billion
Baylor - $1.0 billion
Texas Tech (System-wide) - $891 million
Iowa State - $612 million
Oklahoma State - $443 million
Kansas State - $338 million
Worst athletic department in the Big 12:
National team titles by institution
School - Number - NCAA Championships
Oklahoma State - 50 - NCAA(50)
Texas - 48 - NCAA(40)
Oklahoma - 26 - NCAA(19)
Iowa State - 19 - NCAA(13)
Texas A&M - 13 - NCAA(11)
Kansas - 12 - NCAA(10)
Baylor - 3 - NCAA(2)
Missouri - 2 - NCAA(2)
Texas Tech - 1 - NCAA(1)
Kansas State - 0 - NCAA(0)
Big 12 Conference titles by school
Texas - 115 (122 including 7 football division championships)
Texas A&M - 53 (56 including 3 football division championships)
Oklahoma - 39 (47 including 8 football division championships)
Oklahoma State - 43 (44 including 1 football division championship)
Baylor - 42
Kansas - 24 (25 including 1 football division championship)
Iowa State - 12 (13 including 1 football division championship)
Texas Tech - 11 (12 including 1 football division championship)
Missouri - 9 (12 including 3 football division championships)
Kansas State - 7 (11 including 4 football division championships)
K-State belongs in the WAC.
:jerk: apparently money doesn't equal football wins, got any other worthless numbers?
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I went to Lawrence about 3 weeks ago and was somewhat surprised to find the largest congregation of Joco high school students in the world.
Seriously though, if you are at a bar in Lawrence and of age you feel out of place. Weird as eff.
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Has beems ever successfully linked a picture?
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Amazing fan support for K-State:
(https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d011113664&view=att&th=136e1424074ac5ce&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw)
Maybe someday those great fans will be able to average over 50,000 in one season.
:cheers:
A system with ability to accurately count the fans entering the stadium on game day.
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Has beems ever successfully linked a picture?
has he ever. he has successfully linked at least 500 different dezmon briscoe pictures.
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IT'S NOT "UGLY," IT'S "TRADITIONAL," bad person.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusctrojans.cstv.com%2Fblog%2FKU-Football.jpg&hash=213be9507cba352055b15dcbd7982aa79a6ce8e8)
I'm glad that Dlew got a photo of the awesome KU football atmosphere on a rivalry day. I can feel the excitement rising up from the massed fans.
I just wish there was another sweet pic of the ghetto to the east of the stadium. Nothing says atmosphere better than an empty stadium with an empty lot, smack dab in a ghetto. The KU way all the way.
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Remember when KU rennovated their stadium in 2010? Man that sure was nice, those facilites and stadium are top notch. what a great place to play football.
Oh wait.........
:)
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Amazing fan support for K-State:
(https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d011113664&view=att&th=136e1424074ac5ce&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw)
Maybe someday those great fans will be able to average over 50,000 in one season.
:cheers:
Yep 50k. If only we had this kind of support.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi585.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss291%2Fmvannatta%2FIMAG0157.jpg&hash=b24b3c8c7d9584e650866415c41ecadff8d73dc0)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi585.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss291%2Fmvannatta%2FIMAG0159.jpg&hash=e60e92bb9740dc9223a87996fd4785e511fe936a)
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That really really really empty part in the first picture is the student section. Being on campus really helps that student support.
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Amazing fan support for K-State:
(https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d011113664&view=att&th=136e1424074ac5ce&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw)
Maybe someday those great fans will be able to average over 50,000 in one season.
:cheers:
Yep 50k. If only we had this kind of support.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi585.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss291%2Fmvannatta%2FIMAG0157.jpg&hash=b24b3c8c7d9584e650866415c41ecadff8d73dc0)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi585.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss291%2Fmvannatta%2FIMAG0159.jpg&hash=e60e92bb9740dc9223a87996fd4785e511fe936a)
Damn, wish I had a pic of their student section filled with 'Cat fans. At least they fill that part of the stadium up every 2 years.
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I think it's funny that Benjamin still references the Gridiron Club that is on indefinite hiatus.
I mean...it's just great.
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I think it's funny that Benjamin still references the Gridiron Club that is on indefinite hiatus.
I mean...it's just great.
Oh, it's coming. :shakesfist:
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Has beems ever successfully linked a picture?
has he ever. he has successfully linked at least 500 different dezmon briscoe pictures.
:love: :love: :love:
Don't forget his ex gf's fine ass.
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Has beems ever successfully linked a picture?
has he ever. he has successfully linked at least 500 different dezmon briscoe pictures.
:love: :love: :love:
Don't forget his ex gf's fine ass.
Or that photo from his youthful indiscretion.
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KSU NCAA team champions. :gocho:
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/04/21/3568556/kansas-state-angler-is-a-one-man.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2012/04/21/3568556/kansas-state-angler-is-a-one-man.html)
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Jesus beems this is not the battle to pick
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KU's tailgating kills K-State's. There are actually places to tailgate outside of just a parking lot.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.law.ku.edu%2Fimages%2Fblog%2Fhospitality-tents.jpg&hash=4dc965bdfbd6bfd5313b932dec9b9280847ebf72)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.lawrence.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2011%2F10%2F22%2Fku_fbc_ksu_34_t640.jpg&hash=ef0acac7a5709b9e2f1771683974bdd993e88b95)
Poor, poor K-State fans. Forced to tailgate next to sheep pens, with the fresh scent of pig crap in the air. So sad.
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Amazing fan support for K-State:
(https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d011113664&view=att&th=136e1424074ac5ce&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw)
Maybe someday those great fans will be able to average over 50,000 in one season.
:cheers:
Yep 50k. If only we had this kind of support.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi585.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss291%2Fmvannatta%2FIMAG0157.jpg&hash=b24b3c8c7d9584e650866415c41ecadff8d73dc0)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi585.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss291%2Fmvannatta%2FIMAG0159.jpg&hash=e60e92bb9740dc9223a87996fd4785e511fe936a)
Damn, wish I had a pic of their student section filled with 'Cat fans. At least they fill that part of the stadium up every 2 years.
Nice pics from the 2nd half of a Turner Gill led blowout. Outstanding work, Sam.
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Has beems ever successfully linked a picture?
Picture works just fine for my Macbook Pro. Perhaps you are poor and have a PC.
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Has beems ever successfully linked a picture?
Picture works just fine for my Macbook Pro. Perhaps you are poor and have a PC.
Also have a macbook pro, can't see crap. You just don't know how to link pictures.
Also, LOL at you thinking a macbook pro is a status symbol of some sort.
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Oregon,
twas there for the Baylor game. The attendance in the box score reads 35K. No way there were 35K in Memorial.
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bringing pre cooked food to tents on a hill and house parties are not tailgating you eff.
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Lol at Beems trying to compare tailgating experiences.
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That really really really empty part in the first picture is the student section. Being on campus really helps that student support.
that actually is not the student section. The student section, however, was filled with more emaw than emaj this past Sunflower game.
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Hey, Beems! You mad? :lol:
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KU's tailgating kills K-State's. There are actually places to tailgate outside of just a parking lot.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.law.ku.edu%2Fimages%2Fblog%2Fhospitality-tents.jpg&hash=4dc965bdfbd6bfd5313b932dec9b9280847ebf72)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.lawrence.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2011%2F10%2F22%2Fku_fbc_ksu_34_t640.jpg&hash=ef0acac7a5709b9e2f1771683974bdd993e88b95)
Poor, poor K-State fans. Forced to tailgate next to sheep pens, with the fresh scent of pig crap in the air. So sad.
I don't see any tailgates in that picture.
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Has beems ever successfully linked a picture?
Picture works just fine for my Macbook Pro. Perhaps you are poor and have a PC.
Also have a macbook pro, can't see crap. You just don't know how to link pictures.
Also, LOL at you thinking a macbook pro is a status symbol of some sort.
Cosign.
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Has beems ever successfully linked a picture?
Picture works just fine for my Macbook Pro. Perhaps you are poor and have a PC.
I tested these photos on my new iPad, iPhone 4s, iMac, MacBook pro, still nothing! Then I tried it on my media server which runs windows 7 and it worked fine, bottom line, you are a liar and are probably surfing goEMAW on a dell. LMAO
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Has beems ever successfully linked a picture?
Picture works just fine for my Macbook Pro. Perhaps you are poor and have a PC.
I tested these photos on my new iPad, iPhone 4s, iMac, MacBook pro, still nothing! Then I tried it on my media server which runs windows 7 and it worked fine, bottom line, you are a liar and are probably surfing goEMAW on a dell. LMAO
:lol: No denied I can't see crap either. :lol:
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Has beems ever successfully linked a picture?
Picture works just fine for my Macbook Pro. Perhaps you are poor and have a PC.
Also have a macbook pro, can't see crap. You just don't know how to link pictures.
Also, LOL at you thinking a macbook pro is a status symbol of some sort.
Cosign.
Better? (notice that thing they call a "campus" in the background - also note lack of sheep pens)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--OTtGJNmaQM/T5YzFShKziI/AAAAAAAAAkM/5iCCvztZDII/s642/-3.png)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JbnwyvlZ-iM/T5YzIDX7ffI/AAAAAAAAAkY/Dls7WTuKTOA/s639/-2.png)
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Lol at Beems trying to compare tailgating experiences.
I've had multiple combo fans tell me KU's was better, especially when Mangino was coaching.
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Has beems ever successfully linked a picture?
Picture works just fine for my Macbook Pro. Perhaps you are poor and have a PC.
Also have a macbook pro, can't see crap. You just don't know how to link pictures.
Also, LOL at you thinking a macbook pro is a status symbol of some sort.
Cosign.
Better? (notice that thing they call a "campus" in the background - also note lack of sheep pens)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--OTtGJNmaQM/T5YzFShKziI/AAAAAAAAAkM/5iCCvztZDII/s642/-3.png)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JbnwyvlZ-iM/T5YzIDX7ffI/AAAAAAAAAkY/Dls7WTuKTOA/s639/-2.png)
That must be the section of the stadium, the "fans" got free admission with a recepit from Taco J's or Aldi's or whereever. :embarrassed:
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Better? (notice that thing they call a "campus" in the background - also note lack of sheep pens)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--OTtGJNmaQM/T5YzFShKziI/AAAAAAAAAkM/5iCCvztZDII/s642/-3.png)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JbnwyvlZ-iM/T5YzIDX7ffI/AAAAAAAAAkY/Dls7WTuKTOA/s639/-2.png)
Much better.
Also, yeah KU's stadium is definitely located near its campus. Indisputable stuff, imo.
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Memorial. Unrivaled student support.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1076.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw458%2Fwildcatnation29%2F06a20508.jpg&hash=46282e1e81b718d60b7bc7d193596aae823fafff)
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Lol at Beems trying to compare tailgating experiences.
I've had multiple combo fans tell me KU's was better, especially when Mangino was coaching.
:lol:
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Has beems ever successfully linked a picture?
Picture works just fine for my Macbook Pro. Perhaps you are poor and have a PC.
Also have a macbook pro, can't see crap. You just don't know how to link pictures.
Also, LOL at you thinking a macbook pro is a status symbol of some sort.
Cosign.
Better? (notice that thing they call a "campus" in the background - also note lack of sheep pens)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--OTtGJNmaQM/T5YzFShKziI/AAAAAAAAAkM/5iCCvztZDII/s642/-3.png)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JbnwyvlZ-iM/T5YzIDX7ffI/AAAAAAAAAkY/Dls7WTuKTOA/s639/-2.png)
I wouldn't want to watch what the crap going on the field if I was a ukjr fan either. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Oh boy, chalk this one up in the loss column Beems. Good luck next round.
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Has beems ever successfully linked a picture?
Picture works just fine for my Macbook Pro. Perhaps you are poor and have a PC.
Also have a macbook pro, can't see crap. You just don't know how to link pictures.
Also, LOL at you thinking a macbook pro is a status symbol of some sort.
Cosign.
Better? (notice that thing they call a "campus" in the background - also note lack of sheep pens)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--OTtGJNmaQM/T5YzFShKziI/AAAAAAAAAkM/5iCCvztZDII/s642/-3.png)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JbnwyvlZ-iM/T5YzIDX7ffI/AAAAAAAAAkY/Dls7WTuKTOA/s639/-2.png)
I wouldn't want to watch what the crap going on the field if I was a ukjr fan either. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Looks like the opening game against NCU a couple of years ago aka 1000's of Free Tickets Night.
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Memorial Stadium was renovated and updated in 2001. Football complex finished in '08. Next.
it was? wow, hope that did not cost much.
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Honestly like Memorial Stadium's location, that part of campus by Potter Lake is very beautiful in the fall. The tailgating atmosphere on the Hill has its own charm to it.
With that being said, the stadium itself sucks and the atmosphere inside can really put you to sleep.
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Man I'm so tempted to post counter-pictures to Beem's but I'm afraid he will break his neck trying to change topics.
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Is the hill first come first serve? For a spot?
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That really really really empty part in the first picture is the student section. Being on campus really helps that student support.
that actually is not the student section. The student section, however, was filled with more emaw than emaj this past Sunflower game.
well...
it was went i went to school at ku. of course i only went to the k-state games while i was there.
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Memorial Stadium was renovated and updated in 2001. Football complex finished in '08. Next.
it was? wow, hope that did not cost much.
my dad's company did this. it was mostly just updating 70yr old bathrooms and a little paint here and there.
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Has beems ever successfully linked a picture?
Picture works just fine for my Macbook Pro. Perhaps you are poor and have a PC.
Also have a macbook pro, can't see crap. You just don't know how to link pictures.
Also, LOL at you thinking a macbook pro is a status symbol of some sort.
Cosign.
Better? (notice that thing they call a "campus" in the background - also note lack of sheep pens)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--OTtGJNmaQM/T5YzFShKziI/AAAAAAAAAkM/5iCCvztZDII/s642/-3.png)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JbnwyvlZ-iM/T5YzIDX7ffI/AAAAAAAAAkY/Dls7WTuKTOA/s639/-2.png)
Nothing screams big time BCS-level football like a track and some La-Z-Boy recliners next to the field.
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Oh jeeze, guys....I am so glad Memorial Stadium is on campus! I need to go to the library to study for a few hours before the football game today. Good thing i can "tailgate" at my daddy's tent he paid on the hill. Oh, score I remember my mom is bringing sushi! After that I am going to hit up Chad's house party on Arkansas Street and play flip cup and get all the bitches drunk!
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Nothing beats tailgating next to the mill across the street.
All the party busses :love: :love:
god bless KSU and their Country roots.
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Oh jeeze, guys....I am so glad Memorial Stadium is on campus! I need to go to the library to study for a few hours before the football game today. Good thing i can "tailgate" at my daddy's tent he paid on the hill. Oh, score I remember my mom is bringing sushi! After that I am going to hit up Chad's house party on Arkansas Street and play flip cup and get all the bitches drunk!
kstatefans is THAT way------------->
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I dont get why Beems keeps saying KSU's attendance sucks.
Seats 50k and we average 49.8k lol KU averages like what 30k in a 50k stadium.
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Went to the katz game last year at Memorial Stadium. "Tailgated" at the hawk and the wheel, good time, i do like that there are bars within walking distance but its not really "tailgating" per se.
Bought 2 "Children tickets, under 17 only" from a guy outside for $20 each. Walked into game with no problem and ended up sitting in the student section with some other EMAWS. Left at halftime and went back to the wheel, met current gf at the bar.
We need to embrace KU tailgating for what it is. A great change of pace and an all around relaxing good time for EMAWs to pak and revel in our athletic excellence.
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Went to the katz game last year at Memorial Stadium. "Tailgated" at the hawk and the wheel, good time, i do like that there are bars within walking distance but its not really "tailgating" per se.
Bought 2 "Children tickets, under 17 only" from a guy outside for $20 each. Walked into game with no problem and ended up sitting in the student section with some other EMAWS. Left at halftime and went back to the wheel, met current gf at the bar.
We need to embrace KU tailgating for what it is. A great change of pace and an all around relaxing good time for EMAWs to pak and revel in our athletic excellence.
good post ben ji. the rest of this thread --> :flush:
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Look at SD tryin to play all cool and above the fray. :jerk: :rolleyes:
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Look at SD tryin to play all cool and above the fray. :jerk: :rolleyes:
linking a bleacherreport piece that ranks our stadium high but titling the thread something anti-KU and then posting 6 garbage pages of anti-KU stuff doesn't require me to be cool or above the fray to :flush: it.
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Lol at Beems trying to compare tailgating experiences.
I've had multiple combo fans tell me KU's was better, especially when Mangino was coaching.
I've been to a football game at every Big 12 school and I have never heard of such a story. Why is it when preseason college football magazines come out for top 25 list of gameday experiences, Kstate seems to sneak it's way into that list? But hey, there's sheep around, so it blows, HUR HUR HUR.
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Went to the katz game last year at Memorial Stadium. "Tailgated" at the hawk and the wheel, good time, i do like that there are bars within walking distance but its not really "tailgating" per se.
Bought 2 "Children tickets, under 17 only" from a guy outside for $20 each. Walked into game with no problem and ended up sitting in the student section with some other EMAWS. Left at halftime and went back to the wheel, met current gf at the bar.
We need to embrace KU tailgating for what it is. A great change of pace and an all around relaxing good time for EMAWs to pak and revel in our athletic excellence.
You didn't have to pay for tickets friend.
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Went to the katz game last year at Memorial Stadium. "Tailgated" at the hawk and the wheel, good time, i do like that there are bars within walking distance but its not really "tailgating" per se.
Bought 2 "Children tickets, under 17 only" from a guy outside for $20 each. Walked into game with no problem and ended up sitting in the student section with some other EMAWS. Left at halftime and went back to the wheel, met current gf at the bar.
We need to embrace KU tailgating for what it is. A great change of pace and an all around relaxing good time for EMAWs to pak and revel in our athletic excellence.
You didn't have to pay for tickets friend.
When EMAW is in town yes you do.
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Could you guys imagine if we just slapped some extra bleachers on Memorial Stadium and still played at that dump like KU decided to do? Oh, man thank God we didn't do that.
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Look, if Beems legitimately thing Memorial is as nice as BSFS then I can't help him. You can't win an arguement with that type of stupidity.
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Went to the katz game last year at Memorial Stadium. "Tailgated" at the hawk and the wheel, good time, i do like that there are bars within walking distance but its not really "tailgating" per se.
Bought 2 "Children tickets, under 17 only" from a guy outside for $20 each. Walked into game with no problem and ended up sitting in the student section with some other EMAWS. Left at halftime and went back to the wheel, met current gf at the bar.
We need to embrace KU tailgating for what it is. A great change of pace and an all around relaxing good time for EMAWs to pak and revel in our athletic excellence.
good post ben ji. the rest of this thread --> :flush:
hey sd. :bait:
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Look at SD tryin to play all cool and above the fray. :jerk: :rolleyes:
linking a bleacherreport piece that ranks our stadium high but titling the thread something anti-KU and then posting 6 garbage pages of anti-KU stuff doesn't require me to be cool or above the fray to :flush: it.
I do agree that the bleacherreport story is a joke, as is the case with that website in general.
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi585.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss291%2Fmvannatta%2FIMAG0159.jpg&hash=e60e92bb9740dc9223a87996fd4785e511fe936a)
Pretty impressive turnout for a track meet!! What is that, from the Kansas Relays?
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Damn, Old Balls Family Stadium really is in an elite location.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi121.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo204%2Fleonhawk%2Frelaxinrobert.jpg&hash=dbfff5ae5dfc71b1362f578ff1ba74f86a6074a2)
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Damn, Old Balls Family Stadium really is in an elite location.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi121.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo204%2Fleonhawk%2Frelaxinrobert.jpg&hash=dbfff5ae5dfc71b1362f578ff1ba74f86a6074a2)
Beems, I see they finally posted that pic for you in that creepy thread you started over on the phog. Congrats.
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Look, if Beems legitimately thing Memorial is as nice as BSFS then I can't help him. You can't win an arguement with that type of stupidity.
The stadium itself isn't as "nice" as BSFS. The campus location is better, and the tailgating experience is just as good when KU doesn't go 2-10. If and when Memorial undergoes another renovation, I personally believe it will be one of the better gameday experiences in the country.
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The concourse is so shitty. :lol:
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Damn, Old Balls Family Stadium really is in an elite location.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi121.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo204%2Fleonhawk%2Frelaxinrobert.jpg&hash=dbfff5ae5dfc71b1362f578ff1ba74f86a6074a2)
Beems, I see they finally posted that pic for you in that creepy thread you started over on the phog. Congrats.
I don't think you know what the word creepy means. From the urban dictionary:
Creepy
adj. An overused slang term for sexually inappropriate or perverted or for attempting to derive sexual gratification through dishonorable means. Unfortunately, the word has become an abused favorite of melodramatic people who try hard to use the word wherever possible, to the point of rendering the word almost meaningless.
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Asking for a pic of a halfway "mentally slower" person is creepy, Ben.
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Damn, Old Balls Family Stadium really is in an elite location.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi121.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo204%2Fleonhawk%2Frelaxinrobert.jpg&hash=dbfff5ae5dfc71b1362f578ff1ba74f86a6074a2)
Unfortunately for you, the Memorial Stadium pics aren't photoshopped.
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So, beems post on phog to get the photoshop of weird robert than came over here a day later and posted it?
:sdeek:
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So, beems post on phog to get the photoshop of weird robert than came over here a day later and posted it?
:sdeek:
Beems is an elite bbs'r, that's what that tells me.
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Look, if Beems legitimately thing Memorial is as nice as BSFS then I can't help him. You can't win an arguement with that type of stupidity.
The stadium itself isn't as "nice" as BSFS. The campus location is better, and the tailgating experience is just as good when KU doesn't go 2-10. If and when Memorial undergoes another renovation, I personally believe it will be one of the better gameday experiences in the country.
Heh. Pitt St. arguably has a better tailgating environment than KU. What exactly is so appealing about KU's gameday environment? It has never been good, you have nothing to base this potential "better gameday experiences in the country" except your astronomical level of butthurt. I went to KU for 4 yrs. Saturdays in the fall were horrendous. Granted that was at the end of Glen Mason era, but I've been back for several events in the past few years, including 2007 and 2008, and there's absolutely no way you can objectively make the claims you're attempting to make.
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Asking for a pic of a halfway "mentally slower" person is creepy, Ben.
No it's not, Heath. I wanted the picture so I could show just how beautiful BSFS was from the cow pastures. Had nothing to do with that weird guy that scrounges around K-State sporting events. Move along now.
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Asking for a pic of a halfway "mentally slower" person is creepy, Ben.
No it's not, Heath. I wanted the picture so I could show just how beautiful BSFS was from the cow pastures. Had nothing to do with that weird guy that scrounges around K-State sporting events. Move along now.
Why did you include his name in your request on phog?
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Look, if Beems legitimately thing Memorial is as nice as BSFS then I can't help him. You can't win an arguement with that type of stupidity.
The stadium itself isn't as "nice" as BSFS. The campus location is better, and the tailgating experience is just as good when KU doesn't go 2-10. If and when Memorial undergoes another renovation, I personally believe it will be one of the better gameday experiences in the country.
Heh. Pitt St. arguably has a better tailgating environment than KU. What exactly is so appealing about KU's gameday environment? It has never been good, you have nothing to base this potential "better gameday experiences in the country" except your astronomical level of butthurt. I went to KU for 4 yrs. Saturdays in the fall were horrendous. Granted that was at the end of Glen Mason era, but I've been back for several events in the past few years, including 2007 and 2008, and there's absolutely no way you can objectively make the claims you're attempting to make.
To each their own, I guess. I have a good friend who went to Oklahoma State, and she always comes back to Lawrence to tailgate for a football game. I guess some people enjoy tailgating in places other than a giant, generic parking lot (surrounded by cow pastures and sheep pens).
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lol
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Asking for a pic of a halfway "mentally slower" person is creepy, Ben.
No it's not, Heath. I wanted the picture so I could show just how beautiful BSFS was from the cow pastures. Had nothing to do with that weird guy that scrounges around K-State sporting events. Move along now.
Why did you include his name in your request on phog?
Because he's featured in the foreground of the picture, genius.
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If you were a diehard ku football fan (or once every other year, an EMAW with all your EMAW friends coming to town) and lived in one of those shitty houses around the stadium, it would be great.
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Look, if Beems legitimately thing Memorial is as nice as BSFS then I can't help him. You can't win an arguement with that type of stupidity.
The stadium itself isn't as "nice" as BSFS. The campus location is better, and the tailgating experience is just as good when KU doesn't go 2-10. If and when Memorial undergoes another renovation, I personally believe it will be one of the better gameday experiences in the country.
Heh. Pitt St. arguably has a better tailgating environment than KU. What exactly is so appealing about KU's gameday environment? It has never been good, you have nothing to base this potential "better gameday experiences in the country" except your astronomical level of butthurt. I went to KU for 4 yrs. Saturdays in the fall were horrendous. Granted that was at the end of Glen Mason era, but I've been back for several events in the past few years, including 2007 and 2008, and there's absolutely no way you can objectively make the claims you're attempting to make.
To each their own, I guess. I have a good friend who went to Oklahoma State, and she always comes back to Lawrence to tailgate for a football game. I guess some people enjoy tailgating in places other than a giant, generic parking lot (surrounded by cow pastures and sheep pens).
Number?
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Look, if Beems legitimately thing Memorial is as nice as BSFS then I can't help him. You can't win an arguement with that type of stupidity.
The stadium itself isn't as "nice" as BSFS. The campus location is better, and the tailgating experience is just as good when KU doesn't go 2-10. If and when Memorial undergoes another renovation, I personally believe it will be one of the better gameday experiences in the country.
Heh. Pitt St. arguably has a better tailgating environment than KU. What exactly is so appealing about KU's gameday environment? It has never been good, you have nothing to base this potential "better gameday experiences in the country" except your astronomical level of butthurt. I went to KU for 4 yrs. Saturdays in the fall were horrendous. Granted that was at the end of Glen Mason era, but I've been back for several events in the past few years, including 2007 and 2008, and there's absolutely no way you can objectively make the claims you're attempting to make.
To each their own, I guess. I have a good friend who went to Oklahoma State, and she always comes back to Lawrence to tailgate for a football game. I guess some people enjoy tailgating in places other than a giant, generic parking lot (surrounded by cow pastures and sheep pens).
Tailgating was invented for giant generic parking lots, otherwise it would just be called grilling your backyard.
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I don't understand why the place smells so bad.
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Look, if Beems legitimately thing Memorial is as nice as BSFS then I can't help him. You can't win an arguement with that type of stupidity.
The stadium itself isn't as "nice" as BSFS. The campus location is better, and the tailgating experience is just as good when KU doesn't go 2-10. If and when Memorial undergoes another renovation, I personally believe it will be one of the better gameday experiences in the country.
Heh. Pitt St. arguably has a better tailgating environment than KU. What exactly is so appealing about KU's gameday environment? It has never been good, you have nothing to base this potential "better gameday experiences in the country" except your astronomical level of butthurt. I went to KU for 4 yrs. Saturdays in the fall were horrendous. Granted that was at the end of Glen Mason era, but I've been back for several events in the past few years, including 2007 and 2008, and there's absolutely no way you can objectively make the claims you're attempting to make.
To each their own, I guess. I have a good friend who went to Oklahoma State, and she always comes back to Lawrence to tailgate for a football game. I guess some people enjoy tailgating in places other than a giant, generic parking lot (surrounded by cow pastures and sheep pens).
Tailgating was invented for giant generic parking lots, otherwise it would just be called grilling your backyard.
Or frontyard, when LSOC rolls up on Daris' lawn.
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I think BMW likes the experience because he likes the Jayhawks. He loves his team and that's fine.
I think Bramlage is better than AFH. :lol:
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Look, if Beems legitimately thing Memorial is as nice as BSFS then I can't help him. You can't win an arguement with that type of stupidity.
The stadium itself isn't as "nice" as BSFS. The campus location is better, and the tailgating experience is just as good when KU doesn't go 2-10. If and when Memorial undergoes another renovation, I personally believe it will be one of the better gameday experiences in the country.
Heh. Pitt St. arguably has a better tailgating environment than KU. What exactly is so appealing about KU's gameday environment? It has never been good, you have nothing to base this potential "better gameday experiences in the country" except your astronomical level of butthurt. I went to KU for 4 yrs. Saturdays in the fall were horrendous. Granted that was at the end of Glen Mason era, but I've been back for several events in the past few years, including 2007 and 2008, and there's absolutely no way you can objectively make the claims you're attempting to make.
To each their own, I guess. I have a good friend who went to Oklahoma State, and she always comes back to Lawrence to tailgate for a football game. I guess some people enjoy tailgating in places other than a giant, generic parking lot (surrounded by cow pastures and sheep pens).
Number?
Probably somewhere in the 40's.
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I think BMW likes the experience because he likes the Jayhawks. He loves his team and that's fine.
I think Bramlage is better than AFH. :lol:
Yea this the only truth in this thread.
Every fan thinks their school and it's buildings and it's teams are the greatest.
This is what makes college sports so great. Because fans from different fanbases have all had different experiences and perspectives.
Every fan thinks their fight song is the greatest. And who cares who is the greatest. We're all unique and we all have unique traditions. And that's ok.
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Look, if Beems legitimately thing Memorial is as nice as BSFS then I can't help him. You can't win an arguement with that type of stupidity.
The stadium itself isn't as "nice" as BSFS. The campus location is better, and the tailgating experience is just as good when KU doesn't go 2-10. If and when Memorial undergoes another renovation, I personally believe it will be one of the better gameday experiences in the country.
Heh. Pitt St. arguably has a better tailgating environment than KU. What exactly is so appealing about KU's gameday environment? It has never been good, you have nothing to base this potential "better gameday experiences in the country" except your astronomical level of butthurt. I went to KU for 4 yrs. Saturdays in the fall were horrendous. Granted that was at the end of Glen Mason era, but I've been back for several events in the past few years, including 2007 and 2008, and there's absolutely no way you can objectively make the claims you're attempting to make.
To each their own, I guess. I have a good friend who went to Oklahoma State, and she always comes back to Lawrence to tailgate for a football game. I guess some people enjoy tailgating in places other than a giant, generic parking lot (surrounded by cow pastures and sheep pens).
Number?
Probably somewhere in the 40's.
:lol: :thumbs:
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I think BMW likes the experience because he likes the Jayhawks. He loves his team and that's fine.
I think Bramlage is better than AFH. :lol:
Yea this the only truth in this thread.
Every fan thinks their school and it's buildings and it's teams are the greatest.
This is what makes college sports so great. Because fans from different fanbases have all had different experiences and perspectives.
Every fan thinks their fight song is the greatest. And who cares who is the greatest. We're all unique and we all have unique traditions. And that's ok.
I definitely don't think our fight song is the greatest.
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So beems whole argument to defend KU's stadium has nothing to do with the rough ridin' stadium at all?
Shocking.
I'd take KSU's Memorial Stadium over KU's.
Some schools are able to build no facilities and some are forced to keep their old ones and claim tradition.
Tradition is earned on the court/field. AFH isn't considered great by some because of the building. It's the games played inside.
Beems is the biggest rough ridin' idiot on this board. It's not even close. His light is far too slight to outshine his dark.
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There's a difference between a rational/realistic fanbase and one that drinks the koolaide. You can tell this difference by strolling goEMAW and the phog in one day.
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in other news, even ku fans agree changes need to be made to their gameday experience
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=8934094 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=8934094)
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I think BMW likes the experience because he likes the Jayhawks. He loves his team and that's fine.
I think Bramlage is better than AFH. :lol:
Yea this the only truth in this thread.
Every fan thinks their school and it's buildings and it's teams are the greatest.
This is what makes college sports so great. Because fans from different fanbases have all had different experiences and perspectives.
Every fan thinks their fight song is the greatest. And who cares who is the greatest. We're all unique and we all have unique traditions. And that's ok.
I definitely don't think our fight song is the greatest.
i like it. especially when the game comes back on from commercial and you can hear the students singing in the background. makes me proud to be EMAW.
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(1) On campus location right next to a bunch of bars and student housing.
(2) Tradition
(3) Hills
(4) Beautiful women
(5) The absence of pig crap and other farm animal crap in the air
(6) A press box that stretches from 20 to 20, not some little midget box like K-State's
(7) Orange Bowl trophies
(8) A brand new $35 million football complex
(9) Potter Lake
(10) Places to tailgate other than a giant parking lot
:thumbs:
1. next to two bars, the rest are a rough ridin' hike.
2. :flush:
3. South and North Dakota are rough ridin' sweeeet too!
4. *infested women
5. I'd rather smell $$$ than the nauseating odor coming from the laundry pile (read: used toilet paper) in Manginos errrrr Weis' office.
6. crap, you got us.......WAIT. I think there's a thread where you could go educate yourself on this topic.
7. Wait, you guys bought more than one in 08? weird
8. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
9. Potter Pond*
10. Places to tailgate in our awfully organized parking lots. "We have a hill though!"
:lynchmob:
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I think BMW likes the experience because he likes the Jayhawks. He loves his team and that's fine.
I think Bramlage is better than AFH. :lol:
Yea this the only truth in this thread.
Every fan thinks their school and it's buildings and it's teams are the greatest.
This is what makes college sports so great. Because fans from different fanbases have all had different experiences and perspectives.
Every fan thinks their fight song is the greatest. And who cares who is the greatest. We're all unique and we all have unique traditions. And that's ok.
I definitely don't think our fight song is the greatest.
i like it. especially when the game comes back on from commercial and you can hear the students singing in the background. makes me proud to be EMAW.
I don't dislike it, but I can admit that it's just not as good as other schools' fight songs, like CU or Tennessee.
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Glen Mason asked for a football complex like Vanier in 1995 (it was actually after the Bowl Season of 1992, but most phognet talking points tend to forget that) . . . had he stayed around THIRTEEN more years, he would have gotten it . . . Mangino re-asked for one in 2002.
I'm sure oscar Weber will put the new basketball facility to good use. All of those 2 and 3-star recruits won't know what to do with themselves once they get a glimpse of that place.
:love:
you guys have signed a few good ones lately...and will probably always out recruit us in bball.
for the sake of your audacity, remind yourself of the unrated, 0 star prospects you've signed lately and the 3 stars and awkward transfers you've had in your rotation. eff OFF YOU HYPOCRITE!
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in other news, even ku fans agree changes need to be made to their gameday experience
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=8934094 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=8934094)
this was my favorite part
Except we were blowing teams out at home in '07.
When the games are close, the students stay, but it seems more often then not the games are blowouts by us (in '07) or by the other team (most other years).
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I think BMW likes the experience because he likes the Jayhawks. He loves his team and that's fine.
I think Bramlage is better than AFH. :lol:
Yea this the only truth in this thread.
Every fan thinks their school and it's buildings and it's teams are the greatest.
This is what makes college sports so great. Because fans from different fanbases have all had different experiences and perspectives.
Every fan thinks their fight song is the greatest. And who cares who is the greatest. We're all unique and we all have unique traditions. And that's ok.
I definitely don't think our fight song is the greatest.
i like it. especially when the game comes back on from commercial and you can hear the students singing in the background. makes me proud to be EMAW.
I don't dislike it, but I can admit that it's just not as good as other schools' fight songs, like CU or Tennessee.
No idea how CU's go (is that bad?), but I know ours is better than Rocky Top. :barf:
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Asking for a pic of a halfway "mentally slower" person is creepy, Ben.
No it's not, Heath. I wanted the picture so I could show just how beautiful BSFS was from the cow pastures. Had nothing to do with that weird guy that scrounges around K-State sporting events. Move along now.
Why did you include his name in your request on phog?
Because he's featured in the foreground of the picture, genius.
You really don't know that is a photoshop? WTF dude?
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Look, if Beems legitimately thing Memorial is as nice as BSFS then I can't help him. You can't win an arguement with that type of stupidity.
The stadium itself isn't as "nice" as BSFS. The campus location is better, and the tailgating experience is just as good when KU doesn't go 2-10. If and when Memorial undergoes another renovation, I personally believe it will be one of the better gameday experiences in the country.
Heh. Pitt St. arguably has a better tailgating environment than KU. What exactly is so appealing about KU's gameday environment? It has never been good, you have nothing to base this potential "better gameday experiences in the country" except your astronomical level of butthurt. I went to KU for 4 yrs. Saturdays in the fall were horrendous. Granted that was at the end of Glen Mason era, but I've been back for several events in the past few years, including 2007 and 2008, and there's absolutely no way you can objectively make the claims you're attempting to make.
To each their own, I guess. I have a good friend who went to Oklahoma State, and she always comes back to Lawrence to tailgate for a football game. I guess some people enjoy tailgating in places other than a giant, generic parking lot (surrounded by cow pastures and sheep pens).
Tailgating was invented for giant generic parking lots, otherwise it would just be called grilling your backyard.
Or frontyard, when LSOC rolls up on Daris' lawn.
guess who got some new Mickey T's for the spring game!? I hope Daris over seeded.
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Asking for a pic of a halfway "mentally slower" person is creepy, Ben.
No it's not, Heath. I wanted the picture so I could show just how beautiful BSFS was from the cow pastures. Had nothing to do with that weird guy that scrounges around K-State sporting events. Move along now.
Why did you include his name in your request on phog?
Because he's featured in the foreground of the picture, genius.
You really don't know that is a photoshop? WTF dude?
Yes I know it's photoshopped. That's what makes it great. The cow pasture and the hideous stadium in the background puts the icing on the cake.
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To each their own, I guess. I have a good friend who went to Oklahoma State, and she always comes back to Lawrence to tailgate for a football game. I guess some people enjoy tailgating in places other than a giant, generic parking lot (surrounded by cow pastures and sheep pens).
Number?
Probably somewhere in the 40's.
:lol: :thumbs:
This was an incredible exchange. Good work, fellas.
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I like the name Heath.
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I like the name Heath.
Thanks :thumbs:
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Visitors/Guests are generally polite people often prone to tell their hosts exactly what they want to hear. Visitors/guests to Lawrence/ku are usually more sophisticated than their hosts, and thus the visitor/guests sense their host’s extreme need to be validated and affirmed.
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IMO I think K.U has left the track in place because they knew Front Butt was coming to save thier program and the track allowed better access for his Hoverround.
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AMIRITE Old Money? :D Who's with me... whooo's comin' with me? Huh WUT!
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AMIRITE Old Money? :D Who's with me... whooo's comin' with me? Huh WUT!
:lol: :lol:
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Beems it isn't our fault that memorial is awful. It's the national perception.
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went to Memroial last season to witness the slaughter........anyway, after the video board intro, the KU team and coaches run through a blow up red archway and take the field.........you could hear the compressor running to keep the damn thing from collapsing.........i wondered to myself, if the KU players were embarrassed or even knew what a joke that was
true story.
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They have speakers in front of student section, sitting on the track, to amplify the band.
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I like the historic chain link fence on field level behind the track. Keeps the tradition of high school that a lot of these kids grew up with. I wonder how many BCS schools have a track around their field or a chain link fence exit right there at field level
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I like the orange slices and the hawaiian punches they hand out after the game for good effort.
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Beems is proly the best fan KU has ever had. :flush:
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Beems is proly the best fan KU has ever had. :flush:
White owl
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Weis trying to get students to stay till the end of games (tradition) :lol: : http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=8934094
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Since when is eating under a tent on a hill "tailgating"?
:confused:
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Aside from the cow pastures and sheep pens, my favorite part about BSFS is the black dirt track that they utilize on Harley Day. Also, the port-o-potties.
:love:
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Aside from the cow pastures and sheep pens, my favorite part about BSFS is the black dirt track that they utilize on Harley Day. Also, the port-o-potties.
:love:
Beems, you realize you have port-o-potties, right? I specifically remember taking a big duece in one last year, right after we man handled you.
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:love:
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:love:
:love:
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Look at all those fans, beems. :excited:
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:love:
:kstategrad:
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Aside from the cow pastures and sheep pens, my favorite part about BSFS is the black dirt track that they utilize on Harley Day. Also, the port-o-potties.
:love:
Black dirt strips Beems.....We have brand new green turf slide of death that extends to the seats. :love:
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:love:
can't wait for that limestone wall.
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Harleys, black dirt tracks, sheep pens, and jean shorts. K-S-U!!!
:ksu:
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Harley Day brings in like 0.05 beems trust funds per year
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Harleys, black dirt tracks, sheep pens, and jean shorts. K-S-U!!!
:ksu:
Frank stole all the jean shorts, and our hearts, when he left for SC.
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I rough ridin' hate Harley day but it is insane how much money it raises. I just :facepalm: and try to pretend like it never happens while the AD cashes the checks.
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Not embarrassed about Harley day. Sitting in the front row of the student section doing the "louder! louder!" motion with my arms while thousands cheer, and hundreds of engines roar, farting out the smell of exhaust is 3 or 4 minutes of pure chaos and ecstasy.
It's beautiful.
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Not embarrassed about Harley day. Sitting in the front row of the student section doing the "louder! louder!" motion with my arms while thousands cheer, and hundreds of engines roar, farting out the smell of exhaust is 3 or 4 minutes of pure chaos and ecstasy.
It's beautiful.
Will be better when the new expansion is completed and the sound waves can't leave the stadium as easily. :fatty:
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Not embarrassed about Harley day. Sitting in the front row of the student section doing the "louder! louder!" motion with my arms while thousands cheer, and hundreds of engines roar, farting out the smell of exhaust is 3 or 4 minutes of pure chaos and ecstasy.
It's beautiful.
Will be better when the new expansion is completed and the sound waves can't leave the stadium as easily. :fatty:
Jesus. I didn't even think about that. OMG.
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They just need to start playing their basketball games at Memorial. Make some huge Helms title banners and hang them over the goal posts and top of the stadium like a tarp.
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I have to admit, I was pretty happey when ku did a few renovations to their Stadium in 1998, most if it was to keep the place from crumbling to ground, but they did actually do some renovations to the lower pissers.
Anyone who had the terrible misfortune of being forced to use one of those prior to 1998 knows exactly what kind of horror show that sickening adventure was.
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What WO doesn't know is that beems slated that chick for #52. Lol at ku superfan White Owl
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Also, the port-o-potties.
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They're called Cat Cans, you eff.
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Nice rough ridin' jumbotron. :facepalm: Jesus, when they aren't pretending football at Ole Memorial does it double as some jank drive-in?
Most pathetic thing about LMS is the speakers they hook up to the band. Very UMKCish
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What WO doesn't know is that beems slated that chick for #52. Lol at ku superfan White Owl
Sorry to burst bubbles, but according to #fanningstuff, that girl doesn't count. I hate to florida this, but we need to recount the punches.
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Do you think superfans like beems and the Owl care who nailed that ultimate ku hottie first?
Nope.
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iirc that's white owls main bitch
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What WO doesn't know is that beems slated that chick for #52. Lol at ku superfan White Owl
Sorry to burst bubbles, but according to #fanningstuff, that girl doesn't count. I hate to florida this, but we need to recount the punches.
hanging chads... EEEEWWWWW
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iirc that's white owls main bitch
was
http://www.thewizofodds.com/the_wiz_of_odds/2009/11/white-owl-arrested-jailed.html (http://www.thewizofodds.com/the_wiz_of_odds/2009/11/white-owl-arrested-jailed.html)
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White Owl experienced more success in one year of following KU athletics than Weird Robert has had in 30+ of scrounging around K-State sporting events.
:lol:
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iirc that's white owls main bitch
was
http://www.thewizofodds.com/the_wiz_of_odds/2009/11/white-owl-arrested-jailed.html (http://www.thewizofodds.com/the_wiz_of_odds/2009/11/white-owl-arrested-jailed.html)
Weird a K.U icon got arrested.... :thumbs:
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White Owl experienced more success in one year of following KU athletics than Weird Robert has had in 30+ of scrounging around K-State sporting events.
:lol:
Welp, nother banner. Ku 1 Ksu 0.
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iirc that's white owls main bitch
was
http://www.thewizofodds.com/the_wiz_of_odds/2009/11/white-owl-arrested-jailed.html (http://www.thewizofodds.com/the_wiz_of_odds/2009/11/white-owl-arrested-jailed.html)
That's sad but also unsurprising.
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seems like anyone associated with KU has been in the slammer at one time or another.
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White Owl experienced more success in one year of following KU athletics than Weird Robert has had in 30+ of scrounging around K-State sporting events.
:lol:
Sorry, Beems. According to the article, his young lady friend dumped him. Left him at the altar, if you will. Then she threw his ass in jail. It looks like White Owl should have used his ol' noggin and realized that the bitch was just using his fame to further her own career. Nothing to see here, folks. Just another washed up former icon.
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WO had a blast at the Dr. Pep game?
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WO had a blast at the Dr. Pep game?
no but he got on tv once and acted pretty crazy!
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WO had a blast at the Dr. Pep game?
no but he got on tv once and acted pretty crazy!
Crazy, or creepy?
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LOL at stacking crazies against each other for bbs'ers to judge. Our crazy is better than your crazy....Pfft.
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didn't the white owl guy get arrested for stalking or raping or something that girl he married?
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WO had a blast at the Dr. Pep game?
no but he got on tv once and acted pretty crazy!
Crazy, or creepy?
Don't be so butthurt about how great White Owl is, he was even on campus!
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didn't the white owl guy get arrested for stalking or raping or something that girl he married?
stalking, raping, and he got hit with a littering charge too. all in one night!
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didn't the white owl guy get arrested for stalking or raping or something that girl he married?
stalking, raping, and he got hit with a littering charge too. all in one night!
That littering charge was bullshit, though. Owls can poop wherever they please.
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Aside from the cow pastures and sheep pens, my favorite part about BSFS is the black dirt track that they utilize on Harley Day. Also, the port-o-potties.
:love:
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2009/nov/13/oread-residents-hope-flush-portable-toilets-out-ne/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2009/nov/13/oread-residents-hope-flush-portable-toilets-out-ne/)
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Aside from the cow pastures and sheep pens, my favorite part about BSFS is the black dirt track that they utilize on Harley Day. Also, the port-o-potties.
:love:
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2009/nov/13/oread-residents-hope-flush-portable-toilets-out-ne/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2009/nov/13/oread-residents-hope-flush-portable-toilets-out-ne/)
omg :lol:
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Nice article from 2009, bruh. Those port-o-potties are money on gameday, by the way. Thank God we don't need them inside the stadium like K-State.
:love:
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:lol:
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Unless they've done something with them in the last couple of years, you would have prayed for a porto-potty on the upper level of Memorial Track-Field-Football Stadium.
One time that area even flooded . . .and :barf:
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I've only attended one game at Memorial stadium but me and my buddies could not stop laughing about what a joke the stadium is. We laughed most of the game just looking around at the different aspects of the stadium. When I saw the speakers hooked up to the band on the track I laughed so hard I threw up.
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I've only attended one game at Memorial stadium but me and my buddies could not stop laughing about what a joke the stadium is. We laughed most of the game just looking around at the different aspects of the stadium. When I saw the speakers hooked up to the band on the track I laughed so hard I threw up.
The band speakers are fantastic. In general, it's very similar to the game day experience at Shawnee Mission South in most respects.
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Aside from the cow pastures and sheep pens, my favorite part about BSFS is the black dirt track that they utilize on Harley Day. Also, the port-o-potties.
:love:
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2009/nov/13/oread-residents-hope-flush-portable-toilets-out-ne/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2009/nov/13/oread-residents-hope-flush-portable-toilets-out-ne/)
:lol:
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Aside from the cow pastures and sheep pens, my favorite part about BSFS is the black dirt track that they utilize on Harley Day. Also, the port-o-potties.
:love:
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2009/nov/13/oread-residents-hope-flush-portable-toilets-out-ne/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2009/nov/13/oread-residents-hope-flush-portable-toilets-out-ne/)
:lol:
[/quote]As crowds clamor for KU football, portable toilets have become a fixture[/quote]
oh no
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the editor of the LJ world says KU is close to awarding contracts on track removal, squaring the bowl, and other improvements to memorial. phog seems to think it'll be like a $200 million project.
As weird as it sounds I kinda hope KU is actually doing something, it might kick our donors enough in the butt to get through at least Phase IV before the sqwaks get to enjoy anything at Memorial Stadium. Competition is good.
How much was our entire project estimated at?
Also if this really would kick our donors face in and get them to donate more to the project then good. But I doubt it will tbh.
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where on earth will KU get 200 million for it's football program? late April fool's joke?
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where on earth will KU get 200 million for it's football program? late April fool's joke?
ku is already stretched making the new track and softball facility happen. track removal is likely, noticeable modifications to the stadium super structure are not. The stupid thing is concrete nightmare. Code has changed significantly, especially when it comes to concrete, and would make minor modifications extremely expensive.
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the editor of the LJ world says KU is close to awarding contracts on track removal, squaring the bowl, and other improvements to memorial. phog seems to think it'll be like a $200 million project.
As weird as it sounds I kinda hope KU is actually doing something, it might kick our donors enough in the butt to get through at least Phase IV before the sqwaks get to enjoy anything at Memorial Stadium. Competition is good.
How much was our entire project estimated at?
Also if this really would kick our donors face in and get them to donate more to the project then good. But I doubt it will tbh.
I don't think they've estimated how much it will take to do all six phases because (CC correct me if I'm wrong) each phase will most likely be bid out separately, and they'll do different projects as they get the money.
At this point, based on what CC said, I'm guessing we're around $90 million between the Phase 1, Phase 2, and Phase 3A stuff we're doing now.
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KU's stadium is going to look odd if they remove the track and cover it with more turf. I mean maybe they could add a putt-putt course between the bleachers and the sideline in order to get fans to stay a bit longer. I'm sure excavating the field just to add more bleachers below is a large cost for little improvement.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.ku.edu%2F%7Efeatures%2Fcgi-bin%2Fscene%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F11%2F10071_005.jpg&hash=0b87d21110bd96a304253ba85fd6c4d9327e1f5e)
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KU's stadium is going to look odd if they remove the track and cover it with more turf. I mean maybe they could add a putt-putt course between the bleachers and the sideline in order to get fans to stay a bit longer. I'm sure excavating the field just to add more bleachers below is a large cost for little improvement.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.ku.edu%2F%7Efeatures%2Fcgi-bin%2Fscene%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F11%2F10071_005.jpg&hash=0b87d21110bd96a304253ba85fd6c4d9327e1f5e)
They should go the family friendly route and hold little competitions like the T-Bones do. You know, racing ppl out of the crowd while you hold a pitcher of beer, egg on spoon races, etc.
I mean, the T-bones are horrible baseball but the environment brings ppl in. :dunno:
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KU's stadium is going to look odd if they remove the track and cover it with more turf. I mean maybe they could add a putt-putt course between the bleachers and the sideline in order to get fans to stay a bit longer. I'm sure excavating the field just to add more bleachers below is a large cost for little improvement.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.ku.edu%2F%7Efeatures%2Fcgi-bin%2Fscene%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F11%2F10071_005.jpg&hash=0b87d21110bd96a304253ba85fd6c4d9327e1f5e)
That place is such a dump
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KU's stadium is going to look odd if they remove the track and cover it with more turf. I mean maybe they could add a putt-putt course between the bleachers and the sideline in order to get fans to stay a bit longer. I'm sure excavating the field just to add more bleachers below is a large cost for little improvement.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.ku.edu%2F%7Efeatures%2Fcgi-bin%2Fscene%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F11%2F10071_005.jpg&hash=0b87d21110bd96a304253ba85fd6c4d9327e1f5e)
That place is such a dump
What's great is KU fans do everything they can to convince themselves otherwise. Watching them talk about how much better Memorial is compared to BSFS for gameday is fascinating.
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KU's stadium is going to look odd if they remove the track and cover it with more turf. I mean maybe they could add a putt-putt course between the bleachers and the sideline in order to get fans to stay a bit longer. I'm sure excavating the field just to add more bleachers below is a large cost for little improvement.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.ku.edu%2F%7Efeatures%2Fcgi-bin%2Fscene%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F11%2F10071_005.jpg&hash=0b87d21110bd96a304253ba85fd6c4d9327e1f5e)
That place is such a dump
What's great is KU fans do everything they can to convince themselves otherwise. Watching them talk about how much better Memorial is compared to BSFS for gameday is fascinating.
They've many times, on the Phog, said that Memorial is one of the most picturesque stadiums in the country, no joke. I guess the view of "the hill" is sort of like the geographical equivalent of an average looking baby to its parents.
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Who could have guessed that this thread would devolve into bashing KU's football stadium?
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Who could have guessed that this thread would devolve into bashing KU's football stadium?
:flush:
We really do need to get it back on track with more tree discussion.
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When KU was winning, the football stadium and the atmosphere at Memorial was awesome. We would have friends from out of town down to the games, and they'd always tell me that KU's gameday was way better than K-State's. Remove the track, square off the bowl, build the stands closer to the field, add a second set of suites to the East side, and update some of the concourses, and KU's stadium will be one of the better places to watch a game in the Big 12. The view of the campus and the walk to and from the hill is something that programs like K-State just don't have. You guys are surrounded by a parking lot in the middle of nowhere. It's just not the same.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-NGJprO5XbeM/UP3TYWtf-1I/AAAAAAAAAt4/jCqV2WzVwUA/s640/-5.png)
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We would have friends from out of town down to the games, and they'd always tell me that KU's gameday was way better than K-State's.
:horrorsurprise:
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You guys are surrounded by a parking lot in the middle of nowhere.
I'd change that to read "You guys are surround by a sea of tailgaters as far as the eye can see."
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When KU was winning....
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-NGJprO5XbeM/UP3TYWtf-1I/AAAAAAAAAt4/jCqV2WzVwUA/s640/-5.png)
I'm not sure that I'd consider "leading Northern Colorado" as "when ku was winning"... but hey if that's all ya got, I suppose you should run with it.
:lol:
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I know I am always put out when I don't have time to walk to class immediately after a fb game.
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When KU was winning, the football stadium and the atmosphere at Memorial was awesome. We would have friends from out of town down to the games, and they'd always tell me that KU's gameday was way better than K-State's. Remove the track, square off the bowl, build the stands closer to the field, add a second set of suites to the East side, and update some of the concourses, and KU's stadium will be one of the better places to watch a game in the Big 12. The view of the campus and the walk to and from the hill is something that programs like K-State just don't have. You guys are surrounded by a parking lot in the middle of nowhere. It's just not the same.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-NGJprO5XbeM/UP3TYWtf-1I/AAAAAAAAAt4/jCqV2WzVwUA/s640/-5.png)
Always love these anecdotal stories. :love: Particlarly from KU people . . . the best!!
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lol stop it beems
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When KU was winning....
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-NGJprO5XbeM/UP3TYWtf-1I/AAAAAAAAAt4/jCqV2WzVwUA/s640/-5.png)
I'm not sure that I'd consider "leading Northern Colorado" as "when ku was winning"... but hey if that's all ya got, I suppose you should run with it.
:lol:
It's just one of the better pictures of the campus view. The stadium actually looks better than that now with the new scoreboard.
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We would have friends from out of town down to the games, and they'd always tell me that KU's gameday was way better than K-State's.
:horrorsurprise:
Yeah, can we get these "friends" credentials?
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the editor of the LJ world says KU is close to awarding contracts on track removal, squaring the bowl, and other improvements to memorial. phog seems to think it'll be like a $200 million project.
sightlines are going to be horrible.
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Remove the track, square off the bowl, build the stands closer to the field, add a second set of suites to the East side, and update some of the concourses, and KU's stadium will be one of the better places to watch a game in the Big 12.
So, basically, memorial would be great if it were entirely different.
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Remove the track, square off the bowl, build the stands closer to the field, add a second set of suites to the East side, and update some of the concourses, and KU's stadium will be one of the better places to watch a game in the Big 12.
So, basically, memorial would be great if it were entirely different.
Yeah, it needs work. Not gonna deny that. The athletic department just broke ground a couple days ago on a new track facility that will likely host NCAA and Big 12 championship events. Once that is completed, which is expected to be around this time next year, KU will then update the football stadium. We will probably announce something after next season.
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I've had a lot of friends in from out of town and they all said that KSU has a better gameday atmosphere than KU :horrorsurprise:
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Removing track, excavating the field, adding bleachers to get the stands closer to the field, and re-surfacing/turfing the new field will cost a lot of money for very little change. Sadly it's probably a necessity before thinking about any additional projects to that stadium. Hopefully the donors realize this and step it up so the bells and whistles can come before 2025. KU will soon (post Baylor completion) have the shittiest stadium in the Big 12, with a very large gap between them and the rest of the conference.
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Beems, every Big 12 school with a regulation track (ku didn't have one) is in the rotation to host the Big 12 Outdoor Championship.
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If it's going to cost KU $200 million to remove the track and lower the field, then why don't they just build a new stadium and start over?
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If it's going to cost KU $200 million to remove the track and lower the field, then why don't they just build a new stadium and start over?
Yeah, it's not like there's anything worth saving or architecturally significant.
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If it's going to cost KU $200 million to remove the track and lower the field, then why don't they just build a new stadium and start over?
Hard to argue with this. My only thought is it's only affordable if they do it in a phased approach. What they need to do is play in Arrowhead for two years while they do a complete demo/rebuild. But maybe even 2 years isn't long enough. How many places build in the exact same spot as the old stadium? Most build next to it or completely different location then demo old structure.
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Beems, honest question. What is so special about "the hill"? Be as objective as you possibly can.
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I've had friends from 18 states and 6 countries on 3 continents tell me that ksu's gameday blows ku's out of the water.
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If it's going to cost KU $200 million to remove the track and lower the field, then why don't they just build a new stadium and start over?
Hard to argue with this. My only thought is it's only affordable if they do it in a phased approach. What they need to do is play in Arrowhead for two years while they do a complete demo/rebuild. But maybe even 2 years isn't long enough. How many places build in the exact same spot as the old stadium? Most build next to it or completely different location then demo old structure.
Pretty sure the University of Washington has done this for the past 2 seasons. They've been playing their home games at Centurylink, while the new stadium is being built. Don't know if they re-built it where the old one was or not.
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If it's going to cost KU $200 million to remove the track and lower the field, then why don't they just build a new stadium and start over?
Hard to argue with this. My only thought is it's only affordable if they do it in a phased approach. What they need to do is play in Arrowhead for two years while they do a complete demo/rebuild. But maybe even 2 years isn't long enough. How many places build in the exact same spot as the old stadium? Most build next to it or completely different location then demo old structure.
Pretty sure the University of Washington has done this for the past 2 seasons. They've been playing their home games at Centurylink, while the new stadium is being built. Don't know if they re-built it where the old one was or not.
why would they play at Century Link if they weren't doing it at the old stadium?
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Beems, every Big 12 school with a regulation track (ku didn't have one) is in the rotation to host the Big 12 Outdoor Championship.
KU's will be able to host NCAA championships as well.
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Beems, honest question. What is so special about "the hill"? Be as objective as you possibly can.
What's so special about The Grove? It is what it is. As people, we learn to appreciate aesthetics and places with beautiful scenery. I don't know why. Why are boobs good? Why does filet mignon taste good?
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I think it's great that the city of Lawrence will be able to host ncaa track championships at their new facility
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I think it's great that the city of Lawrence will be able to host ncaa track championships at their new facility
The women's program has been ranked #1 for four straight weeks now, so I wouldn't be surprised to see us add another championship to the trophy case this summer.
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Beems, honest question. What is so special about "the hill"? Be as objective as you possibly can.
What's so special about The Grove? It is what it is. As people, we learn to appreciate aesthetics and places with beautiful scenery. I don't know why. Why are boobs good? Why does filet mignon taste good?
I'd take a ribeye or prime rib over a filet any day.
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Beems, honest question. What is so special about "the hill"? Be as objective as you possibly can.
What's so special about The Grove? It is what it is. As people, we learn to appreciate aesthetics and places with beautiful scenery. I don't know why. Why are boobs good? Why does filet mignon taste good?
Berms just compared the sight of a hill to the best tailgating experience in all of football. :lol: there's so much wrong with that comparison, but he knows that already.
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so I've come to the conclusion recently in this thread (I know some of you have already realized this) that beems is just trolling. Up until his last few posts in this thread I thought he truly believed the crap he threw out there, but this post proved he is trolling:
What's so special about The Grove? It is what it is. As people, we learn to appreciate aesthetics and places with beautiful scenery. I don't know why. Why are boobs good? Why does filet mignon taste good?
bravo good sir, bravo.
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Guys, all they have to do is:
1. Remove the track
2. Square off the bowl
3. Build the stands closer to the field
4. Add a second set of suites to the East side
5. Update some of the concourses
When all of that happens, KU will leapfrog to around the middle of the pack in stadium awesomeness.
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Beems, honest question. What is so special about "the hill"? Be as objective as you possibly can.
What's so special about The Grove? It is what it is. As people, we learn to appreciate aesthetics and places with beautiful scenery. I don't know why. Why are boobs good? Why does filet mignon taste good?
I couldn't think of a reason either.
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I think it's great that the city of Lawrence will be able to host ncaa track championships at their new facility
The women's program has been ranked #1 for four straight weeks now, so I wouldn't be surprised to see us add another championship to the trophy case this summer.
Maybe, but the average population of NCAA D1 Outdoor Championship Host Cities over the last 12 years: 313K
But I understand, Cheyenne Zulu had to do a hell of sales job to cobble together that back room deal and loan from the KU Foundation, since state backed financing was not available.
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Beems, honest question. What is so special about "the hill"? Be as objective as you possibly can.
What's so special about The Grove? It is what it is. As people, we learn to appreciate aesthetics and places with beautiful scenery. I don't know why. Why are boobs good? Why does filet mignon taste good?
I couldn't think of a reason either.
Pretty douchey thing to say. The bottom line is you're a butthurt K-State fan... you hate KU. Why waste my time trying to explain to you why I value the fact that KU has a beautiful campus next to its stadium? It's useless. No matter what I say, you're going to hate on it.
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I think it's great that the city of Lawrence will be able to host ncaa track championships at their new facility
The women's program has been ranked #1 for four straight weeks now, so I wouldn't be surprised to see us add another championship to the trophy case this summer.
Maybe, but the average population of NCAA D1 Outdoor Championship Host Cities over the last 12 years: 313K
But I understand, Cheyenne Zulu had to do a hell of sales job to cobble together that back room deal and loan from the KU Foundation, since state backed financing was not available.
Who is Cheyenne Zulu, and why do you constantly pretend like KU is struggling to raise money for athletics? Our athletic department dwarfs K-State and our endowment is damn near five times the size of your little ag school on the prairie.
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Beems, honest question. What is so special about "the hill"? Be as objective as you possibly can.
What's so special about The Grove? It is what it is. As people, we learn to appreciate aesthetics and places with beautiful scenery. I don't know why. Why are boobs good? Why does filet mignon taste good?
I couldn't think of a reason either.
Pretty douchey thing to say. The bottom line is you're a butthurt K-State fan... you hate KU. Why waste my time trying to explain to you why I value the fact that KU has a beautiful campus next to its stadium? It's useless. No matter what I say, you're going to hate on it.
Campus is fine. The hill isn't really anything though. It's a slope that gets mowed. No impartial person would look at it and think "picturesque".
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Beems, honest question. What is so special about "the hill"? Be as objective as you possibly can.
What's so special about The Grove? It is what it is. As people, we learn to appreciate aesthetics and places with beautiful scenery. I don't know why. Why are boobs good? Why does filet mignon taste good?
I couldn't think of a reason either.
Pretty douchey thing to say. The bottom line is you're a butthurt K-State fan... you hate KU. Why waste my time trying to explain to you why I value the fact that KU has a beautiful campus next to its stadium? It's useless. No matter what I say, you're going to hate on it.
Campus is fine. The hill isn't really anything though. It's a slope that gets mowed. No impartial person would look at it and think "picturesque".
Langston Hughes wrote about the hill in his biography, and EA Sports called KU's stadium one of the most picturesque settings in all of college football in NCAA Football '12.
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William Allen White once called K-State's campus the most beautiful in the state, with its limestone buildings and what not.
Pretty freaky huh?
Just because KU has a nice campus doesn't mean K-State's isn't nice as well. The difference is that K-State's stadium is kind of off-campus and surrounded by a parking lot and pretty much nothing else.
:dunno:
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William Allen White once called K-State's campus the most beautiful in the state, with its limestone buildings and what not.
Pretty freaky huh?
Just because KU has a nice campus doesn't mean K-State's isn't nice as well. The difference is that K-State's stadium is kind of off-campus and surrounded by a parking lot and pretty much nothing else.
:dunno:
I just thought it was a little out of left field . . . saw it in a book about Kansas many moons ago.
Oh, and don't get me wrong, I think the hill is a nice setting.
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Beems, honest question. What is so special about "the hill"? Be as objective as you possibly can.
What's so special about The Grove? It is what it is. As people, we learn to appreciate aesthetics and places with beautiful scenery. I don't know why. Why are boobs good? Why does filet mignon taste good?
I couldn't think of a reason either.
Pretty douchey thing to say. The bottom line is you're a butthurt K-State fan... you hate KU. Why waste my time trying to explain to you why I value the fact that KU has a beautiful campus next to its stadium? It's useless. No matter what I say, you're going to hate on it.
Campus is fine. The hill isn't really anything though. It's a slope that gets mowed. No impartial person would look at it and think "picturesque".
Langston Hughes wrote about the hill in his biography, and EA Sports called KU's stadium one of the most picturesque settings in all of college football in NCAA Football '12.
Is that going to fit on a regulation sized banner?
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Beems, honest question. What is so special about "the hill"? Be as objective as you possibly can.
What's so special about The Grove? It is what it is. As people, we learn to appreciate aesthetics and places with beautiful scenery. I don't know why. Why are boobs good? Why does filet mignon taste good?
I couldn't think of a reason either.
Pretty douchey thing to say. The bottom line is you're a butthurt K-State fan... you hate KU. Why waste my time trying to explain to you why I value the fact that KU has a beautiful campus next to its stadium? It's useless. No matter what I say, you're going to hate on it.
Campus is fine. The hill isn't really anything though. It's a slope that gets mowed. No impartial person would look at it and think "picturesque".
Langston Hughes wrote about the hill in his biography, and EA Sports called KU's stadium one of the most picturesque settings in all of college football in NCAA Football '12.
Is that going to fit on a regulation sized banner?
They could fit it on a tarp that covers a bunch of their empty bleachers like Baylor does
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William Allen White once called K-State's campus the most beautiful in the state, with its limestone buildings and what not.
Pretty freaky huh?
Just because KU has a nice campus doesn't mean K-State's isn't nice as well. The difference is that K-State's stadium is kind of off-campus and surrounded by a parking lot and pretty much nothing else.
:dunno:
Because we like to tailgate. KU fans wouldn't know how fun it is.
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it's official, tree lovers are outed as squaks. http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/apr/05/four-year-jayhawk-boulevard-construction-project-c/
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Guys, all they have to do is:
1. Remove the track
2. Square off the bowl
3. Build the stands closer to the field
4. Add a second set of suites to the East side
5. Update some of the concourses
When all of that happens, KU will leapfrog to around the middle of the pack in stadium awesomeness.
It would have put them middle of the road in the Big 12 if they had completed it before this year, but with TCU's renovations and Baylor's new stadium, I would say that they are on par with Jack Trice, and pretty much tied for worst after those renovations. If all of that is really going to cost $200 million, they would be completely stupid to do that rather than just rebuild.
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I bet "The Grove" is awesome for racists.
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I think it's great that the city of Lawrence will be able to host ncaa track championships at their new facility
The women's program has been ranked #1 for four straight weeks now, so I wouldn't be surprised to see us add another championship to the trophy case this summer.
Maybe, but the average population of NCAA D1 Outdoor Championship Host Cities over the last 12 years: 313K
But I understand, Cheyenne Zulu had to do a hell of sales job to cobble together that back room deal and loan from the KU Foundation, since state backed financing was not available.
Who is Cheyenne Zulu, and why do you constantly pretend like KU is struggling to raise money for athletics? Our athletic department dwarfs K-State and our endowment is damn near five times the size of your little ag school on the prairie.
he wrote the rules to basketball. As a ku fan I figured you knew that
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William Allen White once called K-State's campus the most beautiful in the state, with its limestone buildings and what not.
Pretty freaky huh?
Just because KU has a nice campus doesn't mean K-State's isn't nice as well. The difference is that K-State's stadium is kind of off-campus and surrounded by a parking lot and pretty much nothing else.
:dunno:
Its surrounded by fans on game day :dunno:
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I rough ridin' hate you guys. Shut the eff up. This is the best thread on the entire board and now look what you've done to it
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ttt
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oh nothing, just some amazing modding by sd. yawn.
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oh nothing, just some amazing modding by sd. yawn.
hey sd, thanks for being awesome and modding the crap out of this thing!
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I think it's great that the city of Lawrence will be able to host ncaa track championships at their new facility
The women's program has been ranked #1 for four straight weeks now, so I wouldn't be surprised to see us add another championship to the trophy case this summer.
Maybe, but the average population of NCAA D1 Outdoor Championship Host Cities over the last 12 years: 313K
But I understand, Cheyenne Zulu had to do a hell of sales job to cobble together that back room deal and loan from the KU Foundation, since state backed financing was not available.
Who is Cheyenne Zulu, and why do you constantly pretend like KU is struggling to raise money for athletics? Our athletic department dwarfs K-State and our endowment is damn near five times the size of your little ag school on the prairie.
he wrote the rules to basketball. As a ku fan I figured you knew that
FY 2012
KU
Gross Revenue: $70.49 million
Net Revenue: ($8.87 million)
K-State
Gross Revenues: $63.557 million
Net Revenue: $12.276 million
FY 2011
KU
Gross Revenues: $74.493 million
Net Revenue: $2.858 million
K-State
Gross Revenues: $68.875 million
Net Revenue: $23.395 million
Year over Year Net Revenue FY 2011 and FY 2012
KU: ($6.012 million)
K-State: $35.671 million
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FY 2012
KU
Gross Revenue: $70.49 million
Net Revenue: ($8.87 million)
K-State
Gross Revenues: $63.557 million
Net Revenue: $12.276 million
FY 2011
KU
Gross Revenues: $74.493 million
Net Revenue: $2.858 million
K-State
Gross Revenues: $68.875 million
Net Revenue: $23.395 million
Year over Year Net Revenue FY 2011 and FY 2012
KU: ($6.012 million)
K-State: $35.671 million
But, but, Dax, ku has this HUGE endowment.....besides the spread in operating results of FY 20110 and 2012 is only just over $41 million.
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if they opened up the track to tailgating during the game, it would be a great gameday experience
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Permanent endowments are typically restricted for use for a specific purpose. The vast majority of the time, that purpose is academic and scholarly pursuits, not athletics. Only a small percentage of ku's permanent endowment is for athletics, and they can access a small percentage of those funds every year based on investment returns on the holdings. Beyond that, they could borrow money from the foundation on a note.
ku like K-State appears to place specific capital giving in temporarily restricted accounts with the Foundation, for example right now or very recently K-State athletics had millions of $ in temporarily restricted or unrestricted accounts with the Foundation, but those aren't counted towards the permanent endowment.
A school could have a bazzillion gazzillion dollar endowment and unless the people who made those gifts wanted the proceeds of the investment return, or a % thereof to be used for athletics, it doesn't make a damn bit of difference for the athletic program. I guess athletics could get a bigger loan.
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Could you imagine having a beautiful hill and then ruining it by placing 11 guys on the field in front of it, that just crap all over the place? What a waste! Literally!
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I have been to Lawrence six times for a football game. Even during the '08 whipping when KU was a top 25 team, it wasn't as loud as the Bill
'04 was the only game that I have been intimidated in Memorial
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I have been to Lawrence six times for a football game. Even during the '08 whipping when KU was a top 25 team, it wasn't as loud as the Bill (since Snyd's returned)
'04 was the only game that I have been intimidated in Memorial
Pett, you're a pussy.
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I have been to Lawrence six times for a football game. Even during the '08 whipping when KU was a top 25 team, it wasn't as loud as the Bill (since Snyd's returned)
'04 was the only game that I have been intimidated in Memorial
Pett, you're a pussy.
I was at the 04 game. It was a very solid atmosphere. And that-age me really enjoyed the Tommy Boy clip on the Jumbo Tron after one of the Randle plays (even though I hurt inside my heart).
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I think it's great that the city of Lawrence will be able to host ncaa track championships at their new facility
The women's program has been ranked #1 for four straight weeks now, so I wouldn't be surprised to see us add another championship to the trophy case this summer.
Maybe, but the average population of NCAA D1 Outdoor Championship Host Cities over the last 12 years: 313K
But I understand, Cheyenne Zulu had to do a hell of sales job to cobble together that back room deal and loan from the KU Foundation, since state backed financing was not available.
Who is Cheyenne Zulu, and why do you constantly pretend like KU is struggling to raise money for athletics? Our athletic department dwarfs K-State and our endowment is damn near five times the size of your little ag school on the prairie.
he wrote the rules to basketball. As a ku fan I figured you knew that
FY 2012
KU
Gross Revenue: $70.49 million
Net Revenue: ($8.87 million)
K-State
Gross Revenues: $63.557 million
Net Revenue: $12.276 million
FY 2011
KU
Gross Revenues: $74.493 million
Net Revenue: $2.858 million
K-State
Gross Revenues: $68.875 million
Net Revenue: $23.395 million
Year over Year Net Revenue FY 2011 and FY 2012
KU: ($6.012 million)
K-State: $35.671 million
Yeah, KU lost money on football those years because our football team sucked. Yet, we still brought home more bacon than K-State (even while K-State was going to the Cotton/Fiesta Bowl). When KU finally gets its crap together in football, the spread won't even be close. In '08, KU was top 10 in the country in total athletic department revenue.
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Yeah, KU lost money on football those years because our football team sucked. Yet, we still brought home more bacon than K-State (even while K-State was going to the Cotton/Fiesta Bowl). When KU finally gets its crap together in football, the spread won't even be close. In '08, KU was top 10 in the country in total athletic department revenue.
what makes you think that the times are changing? I honestly want to know not talking crap
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EA Sports called KU's stadium one of the most picturesque settings in all of college football in NCAA Football '12.
:thumbsup:
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I mean, the Langston Hughes.
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Yeah, KU lost money on football those years because our football team sucked. Yet, we still brought home more bacon than K-State (even while K-State was going to the Cotton/Fiesta Bowl). When KU finally gets its crap together in football, the spread won't even be close. In '08, KU was top 10 in the country in total athletic department revenue.
what makes you think that the times are changing? I honestly want to know not talking crap
I've heard Heaps would have started last year if he was eligible, and he had a great spring game with like 260 yards passing and 4 TD's. KU has playmakers in the backfield with Pierson and Sims and we've upgraded several positions thanks to recruiting. Marquel Combs was the #1 juco prospect in the country last year and should start from day one. The strength and conditioning program has improved exponentially and the players are finally learning Weis' system. I'm not saying that KU will be competing for a Big 12 title or anything next year, but I'd be somewhat surprised if we went 1-11 again.
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Yeah, KU lost money on football those years because our football team sucked. Yet, we still brought home more bacon than K-State (even while K-State was going to the Cotton/Fiesta Bowl). When KU finally gets its crap together in football, the spread won't even be close. In '08, KU was top 10 in the country in total athletic department revenue.
what makes you think that the times are changing? I honestly want to know not talking crap
I've heard Heaps would have started last year if he was eligible, and he had a great spring game with like 260 yards passing and 4 TD's. KU has playmakers in the backfield with Pierson and Sims and we've upgraded several positions thanks to recruiting. Marquel Combs was the #1 juco prospect in the country last year and should start from day one. The strength and conditioning program has improved exponentially and the players are finally learning Weis' system. I'm not saying that KU will be competing for a Big 12 title or anything next year, but I'd be somewhat surprised if we went 1-11 again.
Beems, I'm on your side in this thread for whatever reason, but I just have to say:
1) Carson Coffman passed for 700 yards or something in a spring game.
2) Pierson and Sims are legit.
3) The history of #1 Juco prospects in journal is not encouraging
4)S&C talk are spring time staples at every school, but 2nd year in the system is a solid talking point.
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Yeah, KU lost money on football those years because our football team sucked. Yet, we still brought home more bacon than K-State (even while K-State was going to the Cotton/Fiesta Bowl). When KU finally gets its crap together in football, the spread won't even be close. In '08, KU was top 10 in the country in total athletic department revenue.
what makes you think that the times are changing? I honestly want to know not talking crap
I've heard Heaps would have started last year if he was eligible, and he had a great spring game with like 260 yards passing and 4 TD's. KU has playmakers in the backfield with Pierson and Sims and we've upgraded several positions thanks to recruiting. Marquel Combs was the #1 juco prospect in the country last year and should start from day one. The strength and conditioning program has improved exponentially and the players are finally learning Weis' system. I'm not saying that KU will be competing for a Big 12 title or anything next year, but I'd be somewhat surprised if we went 1-11 again.
to add on to felix's post, what have you seen that makes you think charlies system will work. i get that you are recruiting better but that doesnt matter if the coach cant coach. as we all saw with the dancing cowboy
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I'm on board with team Smock on this one. Heaps is a beast, Weis out-Snydered Snyder on the Juco circuit, and their S&C program is making monsters out of the players. TSC, Beems, TSC, I'm all RCJH right now.
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Weis isn't a complete dumpster fire of a coach. I can see him having 7-8 wins kind of success on a more or less regular basis, with a few ups and downs thrown in. And KU did recruit good. And there's no reason that Heaps can't be an Arthur Brown type instead of a Dayne Crist type. Also, he has an actual good receiver this year. And those are srsly legit RBs.
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Hey, Beams! What was your athletic year like back in '08? I'm really interested to know?
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Weis isn't a complete dumpster fire of a coach. I can see him having 7-8 wins kind of success on a more or less regular basis, with a few ups and downs thrown in. And KU did recruit good. And there's no reason that Heaps can't be an Arthur Brown type instead of a Dayne Crist type. Also, he has an actual good receiver this year. And those are srsly legit RBs.
Thanks, felix (and other TSC brothers). The one thing I will say is that KU's improvement is relative to the rest of the Big 12. KU could improve next year and still end up going 2-10/3-9 because the rest of the Big 12 is just that much better to begin with. It's a tough time to be in rebuilding mode if you're a team in this conference.
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Going back and reading Beems' posts in this thread is well worth it. Great entertainment if you're bored at work or in class.
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langston hughes loved ku so much he attended columbia college
also, i doubt he would have written this -
"I was unhappy for a long time, and very lonesome, living with my grandmother. Then it was that books began to happen to me, and I began to believe in nothing but books and the wonderful world in books — where if people suffered, they suffered in beautiful language, not in monosyllables, as we did in Kansas"
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I can't wait for the Jake Heaps Stuff Thread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTBZmpXsaUs
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KU "being in the top 10 was in Revenue" was an anomaly, ku FY 2008 to FY 2009 year over year gross and net revenue dropped significantly and that's with KU football still riding an Orange Bowl High with good ticket sales.
Gross KU Football Revenue at Orange Bowl peak was almost exactly equal to K-State's Football Revenue with Ron Prince as coach.
KU had 2 years with Mangino and another Final Four post 2008 and never even sniffed FY 2008 Gross Revenues.
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KU "being in the top 10 was in Revenue" was an anomaly, ku FY 2008 to FY 2009 year over year gross and net revenue dropped significantly and that's with KU football still riding an Orange Bowl High with good ticket sales.
Gross KU Football Revenue at Orange Bowl peak was almost exactly equal to K-State's Football Revenue with Ron Prince as coach.
KU had 2 years with Mangino and another Final Four post 2008 and never even sniffed FY 2008 Gross Revenues.
A BCS Bowl alone probably adds about $5-10 million in gross revenue. Then you factor in a national title in hoops, and yeah, '07-08 was a good year to be a Jayhawk. If and when KU gets it going again in football, the total revenue numbers will be back to the $85-90 million range.
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how much is the home football game against ksu worth to the ku athletic department? i would say around $5 million.
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lol. Beems is so predictable.
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It's funny how everything pro-KU and anti-KSU is a "When" as if it is some set date in the future. :lol:
Stereotypical denial
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how much is the home football game against ksu worth to the ku athletic department? i would say around $5 million.
They've had like 30 of them in the past 5 years. The big 12 is trying to help, but KU doesn't want it.
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Yeah, KU lost money on football those years because our football team sucked. Yet, we still brought home more bacon than K-State (even while K-State was going to the Cotton/Fiesta Bowl). When KU finally gets its crap together in football, the spread won't even be close. In '08, KU was top 10 in the country in total athletic department revenue.
what makes you think that the times are changing? I honestly want to know not talking crap
I've heard Heaps would have started last year if he was eligible, and he had a great spring game with like 260 yards passing and 4 TD's. KU has playmakers in the backfield with Pierson and Sims and we've upgraded several positions thanks to recruiting. Marquel Combs was the #1 juco prospect in the country last year and should start from day one. The strength and conditioning program has improved exponentially and the players are finally learning Weis' system. I'm not saying that KU will be competing for a Big 12 title or anything next year, but I'd be somewhat surprised if we went 1-11 again.
3) The history of #1 Juco prospects in journal is not encouraging
Is Felix Rex just an elaborate fanning sock?
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It's funny how everything pro-KU and anti-KSU is a "When" as if it is some set date in the future. :lol:
Stereotypical denial
Sports are cyclical. Over a long-term period, both KU and K-State will have ups and downs. Look no further than '04-'08 for KU and then the turnaround from '09-present for K-State. If you haven't figured this out by now, you should probably stop following sports.
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Yeah, KU lost money on football those years because our football team sucked. Yet, we still brought home more bacon than K-State (even while K-State was going to the Cotton/Fiesta Bowl). When KU finally gets its crap together in football, the spread won't even be close. In '08, KU was top 10 in the country in total athletic department revenue.
what makes you think that the times are changing? I honestly want to know not talking crap
I've heard Heaps would have started last year if he was eligible, and he had a great spring game with like 260 yards passing and 4 TD's. KU has playmakers in the backfield with Pierson and Sims and we've upgraded several positions thanks to recruiting. Marquel Combs was the #1 juco prospect in the country last year and should start from day one. The strength and conditioning program has improved exponentially and the players are finally learning Weis' system. I'm not saying that KU will be competing for a Big 12 title or anything next year, but I'd be somewhat surprised if we went 1-11 again.
3) The history of #1 Juco prospects in journal is not encouraging
Is Felix Rex just an elaborate fanning sock?
Your mom is a sock and I'm the foot.
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KU "being in the top 10 was in Revenue" was an anomaly, ku FY 2008 to FY 2009 year over year gross and net revenue dropped significantly and that's with KU football still riding an Orange Bowl High with good ticket sales.
Gross KU Football Revenue at Orange Bowl peak was almost exactly equal to K-State's Football Revenue with Ron Prince as coach.
KU had 2 years with Mangino and another Final Four post 2008 and never even sniffed FY 2008 Gross Revenues.
A BCS Bowl alone probably adds about $5-10 million in gross revenue. Then you factor in a national title in hoops, and yeah, '07-08 was a good year to be a Jayhawk. If and when KU gets it going again in football, the total revenue numbers will be back to the $85-90 million range.
You don't really understand how the Conference splits bowl revenue. Sadly, a BCS Bowl for a Big 12 team is worth no where near $5 to $10 million for the participating Big 12 team, particularly after expenses. A trip to the Final Four only increases a schools take in the NCAA formula which in the case of the Big 12, flows through the conference office first.
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It's funny how everything pro-KU and anti-KSU is a "When" as if it is some set date in the future. :lol:
Stereotypical denial
Sports are cyclical. Over a long-term period, both KU and K-State will have ups and downs. Look no further than '04-'08 for KU and then the turnaround from '09-present for K-State. If you haven't figured this out by now, you should probably stop following sports.
Per your logic we should expect KU Basketball to fall off any day now..? Amirite?
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KU "being in the top 10 was in Revenue" was an anomaly, ku FY 2008 to FY 2009 year over year gross and net revenue dropped significantly and that's with KU football still riding an Orange Bowl High with good ticket sales.
Gross KU Football Revenue at Orange Bowl peak was almost exactly equal to K-State's Football Revenue with Ron Prince as coach.
KU had 2 years with Mangino and another Final Four post 2008 and never even sniffed FY 2008 Gross Revenues.
A BCS Bowl alone probably adds about $5-10 million in gross revenue. Then you factor in a national title in hoops, and yeah, '07-08 was a good year to be a Jayhawk. If and when KU gets it going again in football, the total revenue numbers will be back to the $85-90 million range.
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KU "being in the top 10 was in Revenue" was an anomaly, ku FY 2008 to FY 2009 year over year gross and net revenue dropped significantly and that's with KU football still riding an Orange Bowl High with good ticket sales.
Gross KU Football Revenue at Orange Bowl peak was almost exactly equal to K-State's Football Revenue with Ron Prince as coach.
KU had 2 years with Mangino and another Final Four post 2008 and never even sniffed FY 2008 Gross Revenues.
A BCS Bowl alone probably adds about $5-10 million in gross revenue. Then you factor in a national title in hoops, and yeah, '07-08 was a good year to be a Jayhawk. If and when KU gets it going again in football, the total revenue numbers will be back to the $85-90 million range.
You don't really understand how the Conference splits bowl revenue. Sadly, a BCS Bowl for a Big 12 team is worth no where near $5 to $10 million for the participating Big 12 team, particularly after expenses. A trip to the Final Four only increases a schools take in the NCAA formula which in the case of the Big 12, flows through the conference office first.
I fully understand how the BCS payout system works. KU made at least $5 million in merchandise sales and BCS payouts from that '08 Orange Bowl. Our total athletic revenue that year was around $85 million, which is about $15 million more than the average.
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Ben has a point, the only ku football apparel I've even seen is orange bowl related.
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KU "being in the top 10 was in Revenue" was an anomaly, ku FY 2008 to FY 2009 year over year gross and net revenue dropped significantly and that's with KU football still riding an Orange Bowl High with good ticket sales.
Gross KU Football Revenue at Orange Bowl peak was almost exactly equal to K-State's Football Revenue with Ron Prince as coach.
KU had 2 years with Mangino and another Final Four post 2008 and never even sniffed FY 2008 Gross Revenues.
A BCS Bowl alone probably adds about $5-10 million in gross revenue. Then you factor in a national title in hoops, and yeah, '07-08 was a good year to be a Jayhawk. If and when KU gets it going again in football, the total revenue numbers will be back to the $85-90 million range.
You don't really understand how the Conference splits bowl revenue. Sadly, a BCS Bowl for a Big 12 team is worth no where near $5 to $10 million for the participating Big 12 team, particularly after expenses. A trip to the Final Four only increases a schools take in the NCAA formula which in the case of the Big 12, flows through the conference office first.
I fully understand how the BCS payout system works. KU made at least $5 million in merchandise sales and BCS payouts from that '08 Orange Bowl. Our total athletic revenue that year was around $85 million, which is about $15 million more than the average.
Um, based on the % school's get on the wholesale price of licensed items, the merchandise sales would have to unprecedented.
You need to read the 990's etc. etc.
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Every time i read any a post that contains a number of Beems posts in rapid succession, i always wonder to myself. Is Beems trolling GE? is GE trolling Beems? Or is this some sort of trolling symbiosis, complete with stats and numbers and talking point?
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Every time i read any a post that contains a number of Beems posts in rapid succession, i always wonder to myself. Is Beems trolling GE? is GE trolling Beems? Or is this some sort of trolling symbiosis, complete with stats and numbers and talking point?
It's always both, until he goes Charlie Sheen on everyone. Other then that, it's a partnership.
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it's a beautiful dance until one of the partners pukes on the other's shoes
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If Sims can get clean and stay out of jail...big if.
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Weis isn't a complete dumpster fire of a coach. I can see him having 7-8 wins kind of success on a more or less regular basis, with a few ups and downs thrown in. And KU did recruit good. And there's no reason that Heaps can't be an Arthur Brown type instead of a Dayne Crist type. Also, he has an actual good receiver this year. And those are srsly legit RBs.
Thanks, felix (and other TSC brothers). The one thing I will say is that KU's improvement is relative to the rest of the Big 12. KU could improve next year and still end up going 2-10/3-9 because the rest of the Big 12 is just that much better to begin with. It's a tough time to be in rebuilding mode if you're a team in this conference.
Beems is right for once. This is a "football only" conference.
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To say winning in sports is cyclical is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Especially from a KU fan.
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To say winning in sports is cyclical is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Especially from a KU fan.
Name one program in sports that has never had a down year.
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To say winning in sports is cyclical is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Especially from a KU fan.
Name one program in sports that has never had a down year.
KSU Football
undefeated champs since 1896.
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Langston Hughes was a boss.
so Beems was right about that
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To say winning in sports is cyclical is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Especially from a KU fan.
Name one program in sports that has never had a down year.
So you think a down year = a cycle. Glad we cleared up the idiocy. You act like KU is going to get better in football because they're "due."
In 20 years, KU football has had 2 good seasons (10+ wins) and 2 other seasons with an above .500 record. Just because a good season happened doesn't mean "its a cycle." A cycle involves regularity not just "they are bound to win eventually" or "they are bound to lose eventually." You would think KU Football and KU Basketball would be fairly obvious examples of consistency
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I think KU is going to get better in football because they can't get worse.
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To say winning in sports is cyclical is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Especially from a KU fan.
Name one program in sports that has never had a down year.
Tide under Saban. He is that program.
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To say winning in sports is cyclical is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Especially from a KU fan.
Name one program in sports that has never had a down year.
Tide under Saban. He is that program.
You just helped make my point. Before Saban, Alabama wasn't nearly as good as they are now. You have to be a serious hater/Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to think that sports aren't cyclical, especially college football.
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[quoTo say winning in sports is cyclical is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Especially from a KU fan.
Name one program in sports that has never had a down year.
So you think a down year = a cycle. Glad we cleared up the idiocy. You act like KU is going to get better in football because they're "due."
In 20 years, KU football has had 2 good seasons (10+ wins) and 2 other seasons with an above .500 record. Just because a good season happened doesn't mean "its a cycle." A cycle involves regularity not just "they are bound to win eventually" or "they are bound to lose eventually." You would think KU Football and KU Basketball would be fairly obvious examples of consistency
KU basketball had a down period back when Ted Owens was fired. KU football has had 4-5 years of solid football mixed with horrible football. Like I said, cyclical. Quit being a hater.
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To say winning in sports is cyclical is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Especially from a KU fan.
Name one program in sports that has never had a down year.
Tide under Saban. He is that program.
You just helped make my point. Before Saban, Alabama wasn't nearly as good as they are now. You have to be a serious hater/Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to think that sports aren't cyclical, especially college football.
It seems you missed my definition of program.
But you are mostly right. Also what one program considers a down year could be a fantastic year for another program, so its all relative. I mean ND experienced a down 20 years from their view, just waiting for the right player with a made up girl and coach who kills student workers to break the trend.
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[quoTo say winning in sports is cyclical is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Especially from a KU fan.
Name one program in sports that has never had a down year.
So you think a down year = a cycle. Glad we cleared up the idiocy. You act like KU is going to get better in football because they're "due."
In 20 years, KU football has had 2 good seasons (10+ wins) and 2 other seasons with an above .500 record. Just because a good season happened doesn't mean "its a cycle." A cycle involves regularity not just "they are bound to win eventually" or "they are bound to lose eventually." You would think KU Football and KU Basketball would be fairly obvious examples of consistency
KU basketball had a down period back when Ted Owens was fired. KU football has had 4-5 years of solid football mixed with horrible football. Like I said, cyclical. Quit being a hater.
Quit misusing cyclical
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To say winning in sports is cyclical is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Especially from a KU fan.
Name one program in sports that has never had a down year.
Team USA track and field
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To say winning in sports is cyclical is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Especially from a KU fan.
Name one program in sports that has never had a down year.
Team USA track and field
Floyd Mayweather
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To say winning in sports is cyclical is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Especially from a KU fan.
Name one program in sports that has never had a down year.
Team USA track and field
Floyd Mayweather
Sidewinder Dojo
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Andrea the Giant
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The mighty ducks
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Kansas State
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When's the last time the Harlem Globetrotters had a down year?
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When's the last time the Harlem Globetrotters had a down year?
NEVER
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Power Ranking Every BCS College Football Stadium
No. 73 Memorial Stadium: Kansas Jayhawks
Kansas' Memorial Stadium is the first uniquely college stadium on the list and is also the first of a handful of college stadiums with the same name.
When it comes to age, this stadium is ancient as far as college football is concerned. It was originally built in 1921 and is large for its age, with a seating capacity of 50,071.
Similar to Duke, Kansas is a basketball school, and the football team clearly does not get the support from the fans that the basketball team does.
The stadium is located in a perfect college town, however.
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Power Ranking Every BCS College Football Stadium
No. 55 Floyd Casey Stadium: Baylor Bears
Floyd Casey Stadium was built in 1950 with a seating capacity of 50,000.
Perhaps the best aspect about the older stadium is the fans. They fill up the place and bring quite an atmosphere to the stadium.
It has been renovated multiple times, as recently as 2004, and that is keeping it up to date and away from the bottom of this list. No question, though, that it is near the bottom of the Big 12 when it comes to overall stadium experience.
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Power Ranking Every BCS College Football Stadium
No. 45 West Virginia Field: West Virginia Mountaineers
There are not many college campuses with a louder bunch of fans than West Virginia. That is never more true than during Saturdays in the fall.
Morgantown is a great college town as well.
Even though the stadium only technically seats 60,000, there have been more than 70,000 at a home game on more than one occasion.
For the past 40 years, they have played John Denver's "Take Me Home, Country Roads" at every home game. The fans here are a little rowdier than most other places in the country as well.
While "loud" is one word to describe the fans, hostile may be an even better adjective. A trip here is certainly a unique experience for anyone.
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Power Ranking Every BCS College Football Stadium
No. 43 Gaylor Family Oklahoma Memorial Stadium: Oklahoma Sooners
For how good Oklahoma has seemingly always been, its stadium has never quite been at the same level of excellence.
There is a lot of history and tradition as far as this football program goes, and the program has an old stadium to go along with that history.
Originally built in 1925, the stadium now seats 82,112 people and it is always filled to capacity.
Tailgating here is some of the best in the country, with the Pride of Oklahoma Marching Band leading fans into the stadium.
This is a true college football experience, but it's just not quite on par with the upper-echelon college football teams.
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Power Ranking Every BCS College Football Stadium
No. 41 Jack Trice Stadium: Iowa State Cyclones
Home to the Iowa State Cyclones, Jack Trice stadium is also the home of 55,000 fans every Saturday. And since 1975, it has been one of the more underrated stadiums in the country.
It is currently one of the best in the Big 12, making it a game-day experience that is definitely worth the trip. The hillside seating in all four corners is not found at many other places.
This is one of the prouder crowds in the country as well. The fans love to support their team.
Finally, the surrounding area is beautiful.
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Power Ranking Every BCS College Football Stadium
No. 38 Boone Pickens Stadium: Oklahoma State Cowboys
Boone Pickens Stadium has been around since 1920 and was known as Lewis Field from 1913-1920. The capacity here is right at 60,000.
Over the past 10 years, there have been a lot of renovations that have this place up to date.
There is an extremely large student section, and they are known to hit the stadium walls with large sticks, creating quite a loud environment.
A lot of traditions take place here as well, from the O-S-U chant started by a gunshot from Pistol Pete to a wave every time the Cowboys score a touchdown.
Not many stadiums in the conference stand out more than this one.
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Power Ranking Every BCS College Football Stadium
No. 36 Amon Carter Stadium: TCU Horned Frogs
Amon Carter Stadium originally opened up in 1930 with only about 22,000 seats. It has since undergone numerous renovations and just underwent another before joining the Big 12 in 2012.
The stadium now holds 50,000. And with the Horned Frogs now taking on much better competition than in recent years, the fans are even better.
The atmosphere here continues to get better, and that will likely be the case for years to come.
No question that this stadium is in the upper half of the Big 12 as far as stadiums are concerned.
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Power Ranking Every BCS College Football Stadium
No. 33 LHC Bill Snyder Family Stadium: Kansas State Wildcats
This small college town loves all of its sports teams, but particularly its college football program.
It is one of those towns that comes together on Saturday to support its team.
Built in 1968, the stadium seats 52,200 people and is always jam-packed. There are not many venues in the Big 12 that are better. And when Kansas State is good, this is one of the more underrated places in the country.
The fan support here is excellent.
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A Smock response would be nice. :lol:
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Power Ranking Every BCS College Football Stadium
No. 31 Jones AT&T Stadium: Texas Tech Red Raiders
When this stadium was originally built in 1927, it only held slightly more than 27,000 people. Since then, a few renovations have taken place, and it now holds 60,454.
Generally speaking, they need all of those seats, as the stadium fills up for Big 12 games.
There are few places in the country with fans who support their team like they do here in Lubbock.
With a new coaching staff in place, the 2013 season should be very interesting.
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Power Ranking Every BCS College Football Stadium
No. 12 Darrell K. Royal Texas Memorial Stadium: Texas Longhorns
The Texas Longhorns have the sixth-largest stadium in college football with a capacity of 100,119. It was built in 1924 and has undergone many renovations over the years.
Texas has been dominant at home since the stadium opened and has won nearly 80 percent of its home games during that time.
There is so much tradition and history at Texas that going to a game is certain to give just about anybody chills.
Bevo, the team's mascot, is a mainstay here and is as well-known as just about anybody in the state of Texas.
No question that this stadium is the class of the Big 12.
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welp. shut her down.
After beems posts of course
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Texas Tech's stadium is disgusting.
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welp. shut her down.
After beems posts of course
If you had to try to predict the average ku fans response, it would have the words "Potter's Pond" and "The Hill" in reference to Memorial, and "sheep pens" in reference to BSFS.
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Texas AM football
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To say winning in sports is cyclical is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Especially from a KU fan.
Name one program in sports that has never had a down year.
Tide under Saban. He is that program.
You just helped make my point. Before Saban, Alabama wasn't nearly as good as they are now. You have to be a serious hater/respect to think that sports aren't cyclical, especially college football.
It seems you missed my definition of program.
But you are mostly right. Also what one program considers a down year could be a fantastic year for another program, so its all relative. I mean ND experienced a down 20 years from their view, just waiting for the right player with a made up girl and coach who kills student workers to break the trend.
Excellent point.
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Someone forgot to give Katdaddy the memo that I've conceded Memorial Stadium needs work. I've been arguing that the setting and on-campus location gives it a charm that most stadiums don't have. Once the stadium is renovated and updated, I believe it will be one of the nicer stadiums in the country. No one is going to change my opinion on that, so you might as well quit wasting your time.
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Someone forgot to give Katdaddy the memo that I've conceded Memorial Stadium needs work. I've been arguing that the setting and on-campus location gives it a charm that most stadiums don't have. Once the stadium is renovated and updated, I believe it will be one of the nicer stadiums in the country. No one is going to change my opinion on that, so you might as well quit wasting your time.
It sucks, Ben. There's no renovation that can help that thing. Sorry.
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He has admitted it's a total crap box and the fan support is laughable. Get off his case.
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Someone forgot to give Katdaddy the memo that I've conceded Memorial Stadium needs work. I've been arguing that the setting and on-campus location gives it a charm that most stadiums don't have. Once the stadium is renovated and updated, I believe it will be one of the nicer stadiums in the country. No one is going to change my opinion on that, so you might as well quit wasting your time.
It sucks, Ben. There's no renovation that can help that thing. Sorry.
The only reason you have this opinion is because you're a butthurt K-State fan.
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nope, we've been validated by national media types.
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nope, we've been validated by national media types.
Memorial is next to last place in quality of Div I football stadiums nationally.
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Someone forgot to give Katdaddy the memo that I've conceded Memorial Stadium needs work. I've been arguing that the setting and on-campus location gives it a charm that most stadiums don't have. Once the stadium is renovated and updated, I believe it will be one of the nicer stadiums in the country. No one is going to change my opinion on that, so you might as well quit wasting your time.
It sucks, Ben. There's no renovation that can help that thing. Sorry.
The only reason you have this opinion is because you're a butthurt K-State fan.
I've been to every stadium in the big 12, minus WV. It's the worst, by far! It doesn't take being butthurt to figure that out. BTW, you're a butthurt KU fan, so whatevs.
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centraltexascat's thread-ending, relatively objective analysis of tsc stadiums:
Beems is right in that the setting outside of the stadium is nicer in Lawrence than in MHK. The hill + an algae infested lake is nicer than a parking lot and meat goat pens. It's a very nice plate to tailgate, although EMAW takes tailgating more seriously (and has better parking ;) ).
In terms of the actual stadiums, the fan culture, and the overall noise levels there just really isn't any comparison. EMAJ at its loudest--like in the Dillons Shootout of 2006 when I was there--doesn't touch EMAW at its loudest. Part of that is due to stadium design since BSFS is built into the ground and traps noise while KU loses noise out of the end of their horseshoe, but BSFS still just feels more like a football crowd. BSFS has a coherent gameday atmosphere while KU is still figuring out where to put their tiny little band and how to get rid of the track. BSFS's ugly points can be covered and improved like Boone Pickens, I don't see that happening with KU. The Clip Art Complex (which is really very nice) aside, they're so far behind on the stadium arms race that it may just be in their best interest to get a new one within 20 years instead of dumping a load of money into it to renovate an eyesore.
Anyway, see you around the board beems.
/thread
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I like parking in a parking lot that accomodates tailgating vs. parking in someone's trashy yard for more money. As for the stadium, Memorial is really much more dated architecturally and amenities-wise, and the atmosphere is really crappy. I went to the Texas game in Lawrence in '08, when ku had a relatively good team, and it was the whiniest, lamest crowd for a big-time conference matchup that I've ever seen. ku fans have the grace and dignity of a $5 whore being beaten by her pimp.
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I like parking in a parking lot that accomodates tailgating vs. parking in someone's trashy yard for more money. As for the stadium, Memorial is really much more dated architecturally and amenities-wise, and the atmosphere is really crappy. I went to the Texas game in Lawrence in '08, when ku had a relatively good team, and it was the whiniest, lamest crowd for a big-time conference matchup that I've ever seen. ku fans have the grace and dignity of a $5 whore being beaten by her pimp.
Mods delete this post centraltexascat covered all points and did a much better job. Tia.
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Did not cover PMS nature of jayhawk fans as directly.
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I've been to Memorial Stadium 3 times and none of those times have I've seen campus, either entering the stadium or from my seat. The wonderful, idyllic campus setting can only be enjoyed from entering from one direction and only seen from specific locations within the seating bowl.
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Great view of some practice fields.
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Both stadiums are bordered by the campus to the south, both have lots and mostly nothing to the east and west. One has a shanty town to the north, the other has research land. One has had hundreds of millions of dollars of improvements the last 15 years, the other has a track and barcoloungers.
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Power Ranking Every BCS College Football Stadium
No. 43 Gaylor Family Oklahoma Memorial Stadium: Oklahoma Sooners
For how good Oklahoma has seemingly always been, its stadium has never quite been at the same level of excellence.
There is a lot of history and tradition as far as this football program goes, and the program has an old stadium to go along with that history.
Originally built in 1925, the stadium now seats 82,112 people and it is always filled to capacity.
Tailgating here is some of the best in the country, with the Pride of Oklahoma Marching Band leading fans into the stadium.
This is a true college football experience, but it's just not quite on par with the upper-echelon college football teams.
Some type of link would be nice, but if this actually is a list put together from some type of legitimate media source, it's refreshing to see somebody out OU for having the garbage heap of a stadium that they do.
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Basically I think it comes down to which team is your favorite. Wildcat fans prefer BSFS, while KU fans prefer Memorial Stadium.
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Basically I think it comes down to which team is your favorite. Wildcat fans prefer BSFS, while KU fans prefer Memorial Stadium.
yeah but KU fans are wrong in that preference.
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Basically I think it comes down to which team is your favorite. Wildcat fans prefer BSFS, while KU fans prefer Memorial Stadium.
yeah but KU fans are wrong in that preference.
congrats on 17 pages.
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Basically I think it comes down to which team is your favorite. Wildcat fans prefer BSFS, while KU fans prefer Memorial Stadium.
yeah but KU fans are wrong in that preference.
congrats on 17 pages.
thanks, it started as a dumb bleacher report article I posted for the hell of it, and thanks to sd being a boss mod taking crappy KU stuff out of the BSFS thread and bumping this one. With out him I would of never made it.
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http://www.kuathletics.com/genrel/041613aaa.html (http://www.kuathletics.com/genrel/041613aaa.html)
Zenger said two different independent studies showed that Kansas Athletics would likely have had to spend in excess of $50 million to build these facilities. Under the partnership of Thomas and Dru Fritzel and Bliss Sports, however, Kansas Athletics will be able to build them for $39 million, spread out over 30 years.
:facepalm:
Well at least they documented how they are doing it on the cheap (because they have no cash), so I can talk about it now. Meanwhile we've dropped $90 million plus down for new facilities like its nothing.
KU has plenty of cash. Much more than K-State. Also, you're comparing a track complex to a football stadium. Dipshit.
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http://www.kuathletics.com/genrel/041613aaa.html (http://www.kuathletics.com/genrel/041613aaa.html)
Zenger said two different independent studies showed that Kansas Athletics would likely have had to spend in excess of $50 million to build these facilities. Under the partnership of Thomas and Dru Fritzel and Bliss Sports, however, Kansas Athletics will be able to build them for $39 million, spread out over 30 years.
:facepalm:
Well at least they documented how they are doing it on the cheap (because they have no cash), so I can talk about it now. Meanwhile we've dropped $90 million plus down for new facilities like its nothing.
KU has plenty of cash. Much more than K-State. Also, you're comparing a track complex to a football stadium. Dipshit.
your school's endowment has no place at this table
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Zenger had to go take out a 30 year note from the Foundation Beems, nothing wrong with borrowing, but ku athletics clearly didn't have the cash.
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http://www.kuathletics.com/genrel/041613aaa.html (http://www.kuathletics.com/genrel/041613aaa.html)
Zenger said two different independent studies showed that Kansas Athletics would likely have had to spend in excess of $50 million to build these facilities. Under the partnership of Thomas and Dru Fritzel and Bliss Sports, however, Kansas Athletics will be able to build them for $39 million, spread out over 30 years.
:facepalm:
Well at least they documented how they are doing it on the cheap (because they have no cash), so I can talk about it now. Meanwhile we've dropped $90 million plus down for new facilities like its nothing.
KU has plenty of cash. Much more than K-State. Also, you're comparing a track complex to a football stadium. Dipshit.
your school's endowment has no place at this table
KU's athletic budget and athletic revenue is several million more than K-State's, and that's with KU football losing money the past few years.
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http://www.kuathletics.com/genrel/041613aaa.html (http://www.kuathletics.com/genrel/041613aaa.html)
Zenger said two different independent studies showed that Kansas Athletics would likely have had to spend in excess of $50 million to build these facilities. Under the partnership of Thomas and Dru Fritzel and Bliss Sports, however, Kansas Athletics will be able to build them for $39 million, spread out over 30 years.
:facepalm:
Well at least they documented how they are doing it on the cheap (because they have no cash), so I can talk about it now. Meanwhile we've dropped $90 million plus down for new facilities like its nothing.
KU has plenty of cash. Much more than K-State. Also, you're comparing a track complex to a football stadium. Dipshit.
:facepalm:
SuperEliteRichCats
2012 cash $49,052,081.42
The PoorHawks
2012 cash $4,538,861.00
:kstategrad:
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http://www.kuathletics.com/genrel/041613aaa.html (http://www.kuathletics.com/genrel/041613aaa.html)
Zenger said two different independent studies showed that Kansas Athletics would likely have had to spend in excess of $50 million to build these facilities. Under the partnership of Thomas and Dru Fritzel and Bliss Sports, however, Kansas Athletics will be able to build them for $39 million, spread out over 30 years.
:facepalm:
Well at least they documented how they are doing it on the cheap (because they have no cash), so I can talk about it now. Meanwhile we've dropped $90 million plus down for new facilities like its nothing.
KU has plenty of cash. Much more than K-State. Also, you're comparing a track complex to a football stadium. Dipshit.
your school's endowment has no place at this table
KU's athletic budget and athletic revenue is several million more than K-State's, and that's with KU football losing money the past few years.
except you're wrong and more than likely know it.
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Nearly a $9 million dollar operational loss in Fiscal Year ending June 30th 2012 for ku athletics.
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Zenger had to go take out a 30 year note from the Foundation Beems, nothing wrong with borrowing, but ku athletics clearly didn't have the cash.
No, that's butthurt K-State fan BS. The project is being privately funded and leased back to KU so that KU can potentially have concerts and events there that will sell alcohol.
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/apr/16/ku-officials-break-ground-rock-chalk-park-set-goal/ (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/apr/16/ku-officials-break-ground-rock-chalk-park-set-goal/)
The Rock Chalk project — which KU officials have said would cost KU about $40 million to build, but is being constructed and financed by Fritzel and leased back to the university — will include several components:
• a 7,336-seat track and field stadium designed to receive the highest Class I certification from track and field’s international governing body;
• a 2,156-seat soccer field;
• a 1,037-seat softball stadium that also will include a 12,715-square-foot indoor softball training facility;
• about 4,500 square feet of locker room space for the facilities, plus concession stands and other guest amenities.
• about 1,500 paved parking spaces, with a large grassy area to accommodate overflow parking.
Zenger said KU officials will use the facility — particularly the track and field stadium that is expected to become just the fifth U.S. track to meet the top international standard — to host both conference and national events.
“We’re going to try to host any championship that comes our way,” Zenger said, “and that means all the way up to the NCAA Championships.”
Stanley Redwine, head coach of KU’s track and field and cross country teams, said he expects the new facility to be a regular host of the Big 12 Track and Field Championships and to receive strong consideration for national-level youth championships for events sanctioned by USA Track & Field.
“I believe Lawrence could be really huge with track and field,” Redwine said. “There already is an interest here, and now we’ll have the facilities.”
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Nearly a $9 million dollar operational loss in Fiscal Year ending June 30th 2012 for ku athletics.
even if they had money, do you think they're going to reallocate dollars earmarked for the basketball program? :lol:
serious question, does ku have a business school?
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Zenger had to go take out a 30 year note from the Foundation Beems, nothing wrong with borrowing, but ku athletics clearly didn't have the cash.
No, that's butthurt K-State fan BS. The project is being privately funded and leased back to KU so that KU can potentially have concerts and events there that will sell alcohol.
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/apr/16/ku-officials-break-ground-rock-chalk-park-set-goal/ (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/apr/16/ku-officials-break-ground-rock-chalk-park-set-goal/)
The Rock Chalk project — which KU officials have said would cost KU about $40 million to build, but is being constructed and financed by Fritzel and leased back to the university — will include several components:
• a 7,336-seat track and field stadium designed to receive the highest Class I certification from track and field’s international governing body;
• a 2,156-seat soccer field;
• a 1,037-seat softball stadium that also will include a 12,715-square-foot indoor softball training facility;
• about 4,500 square feet of locker room space for the facilities, plus concession stands and other guest amenities.
• about 1,500 paved parking spaces, with a large grassy area to accommodate overflow parking.
Zenger said KU officials will use the facility — particularly the track and field stadium that is expected to become just the fifth U.S. track to meet the top international standard — to host both conference and national events.
“We’re going to try to host any championship that comes our way,” Zenger said, “and that means all the way up to the NCAA Championships.”
Stanley Redwine, head coach of KU’s track and field and cross country teams, said he expects the new facility to be a regular host of the Big 12 Track and Field Championships and to receive strong consideration for national-level youth championships for events sanctioned by USA Track & Field.
“I believe Lawrence could be really huge with track and field,” Redwine said. “There already is an interest here, and now we’ll have the facilities.”
All I read is that some poor school is borrowing $40M to improve facilities in non-revenue generating sports.
Genius :dubious:
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http://www.kuathletics.com/genrel/041613aaa.html (http://www.kuathletics.com/genrel/041613aaa.html)
Zenger said two different independent studies showed that Kansas Athletics would likely have had to spend in excess of $50 million to build these facilities. Under the partnership of Thomas and Dru Fritzel and Bliss Sports, however, Kansas Athletics will be able to build them for $39 million, spread out over 30 years.
:facepalm:
Well at least they documented how they are doing it on the cheap (because they have no cash), so I can talk about it now. Meanwhile we've dropped $90 million plus down for new facilities like its nothing.
KU has plenty of cash. Much more than K-State. Also, you're comparing a track complex to a football stadium. Dipshit.
your school's endowment has no place at this table
KU's athletic budget and athletic revenue is several million more than K-State's, and that's with KU football losing money the past few years.
except you're wrong and more than likely know it.
wut
KU athletics generates more revenue than K-State. Fact.
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Zenger had to go take out a 30 year note from the Foundation Beems, nothing wrong with borrowing, but ku athletics clearly didn't have the cash.
No, that's butthurt K-State fan BS. The project is being privately funded and leased back to KU so that KU can potentially have concerts and events there that will sell alcohol.
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/apr/16/ku-officials-break-ground-rock-chalk-park-set-goal/ (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/apr/16/ku-officials-break-ground-rock-chalk-park-set-goal/)
The Rock Chalk project — which KU officials have said would cost KU about $40 million to build, but is being constructed and financed by Fritzel and leased back to the university — will include several components:
• a 7,336-seat track and field stadium designed to receive the highest Class I certification from track and field’s international governing body;
• a 2,156-seat soccer field;
• a 1,037-seat softball stadium that also will include a 12,715-square-foot indoor softball training facility;
• about 4,500 square feet of locker room space for the facilities, plus concession stands and other guest amenities.
• about 1,500 paved parking spaces, with a large grassy area to accommodate overflow parking.
Zenger said KU officials will use the facility — particularly the track and field stadium that is expected to become just the fifth U.S. track to meet the top international standard — to host both conference and national events.
“We’re going to try to host any championship that comes our way,” Zenger said, “and that means all the way up to the NCAA Championships.”
Stanley Redwine, head coach of KU’s track and field and cross country teams, said he expects the new facility to be a regular host of the Big 12 Track and Field Championships and to receive strong consideration for national-level youth championships for events sanctioned by USA Track & Field.
“I believe Lawrence could be really huge with track and field,” Redwine said. “There already is an interest here, and now we’ll have the facilities.”
All I read is that some poor school is borrowing $40M to improve facilities in non-revenue generating sports.
Genius :dubious:
LOL @ a fan of the poorest school in the Big 12 calling the 2nd-richest school "poor:"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_12_conference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_12_conference)
Endowments
See also: List of U.S. colleges and universities by endowment
Texas (System-wide) – $17.1 billion[67]
Kansas (System-wide) – $1.3 billion[67]
TCU – $1.2 billion[67]
Oklahoma (System-wide)– $1.2 billion[67]
Baylor – $1.1 billion[67]
Texas Tech (System-wide) – $891 million[67]
Oklahoma State (System-wide) – $682 million[67]
Iowa State – $612 million[67]
National Average – $490,946,000[68]
West Virginia (System-wide) – $406 million
Kansas State – $338 million[67]
You guys are really, really butthurt since KU signed Wiggins.
:love:
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that's my point, who is talking about revenue??
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Zenger had to go take out a 30 year note from the Foundation Beems, nothing wrong with borrowing, but ku athletics clearly didn't have the cash.
No, that's butthurt K-State fan BS. The project is being privately funded and leased back to KU so that KU can potentially have concerts and events there that will sell alcohol.
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/apr/16/ku-officials-break-ground-rock-chalk-park-set-goal/ (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/apr/16/ku-officials-break-ground-rock-chalk-park-set-goal/)
The Rock Chalk project — which KU officials have said would cost KU about $40 million to build, but is being constructed and financed by Fritzel and leased back to the university — will include several components:
• a 7,336-seat track and field stadium designed to receive the highest Class I certification from track and field’s international governing body;
• a 2,156-seat soccer field;
• a 1,037-seat softball stadium that also will include a 12,715-square-foot indoor softball training facility;
• about 4,500 square feet of locker room space for the facilities, plus concession stands and other guest amenities.
• about 1,500 paved parking spaces, with a large grassy area to accommodate overflow parking.
Zenger said KU officials will use the facility — particularly the track and field stadium that is expected to become just the fifth U.S. track to meet the top international standard — to host both conference and national events.
“We’re going to try to host any championship that comes our way,” Zenger said, “and that means all the way up to the NCAA Championships.”
Stanley Redwine, head coach of KU’s track and field and cross country teams, said he expects the new facility to be a regular host of the Big 12 Track and Field Championships and to receive strong consideration for national-level youth championships for events sanctioned by USA Track & Field.
“I believe Lawrence could be really huge with track and field,” Redwine said. “There already is an interest here, and now we’ll have the facilities.”
All I read is that some poor school is borrowing $40M to improve facilities in non-revenue generating sports.
Genius :dubious:
LOL @ a fan of the poorest school in the Big 12 calling the 2nd-richest school "poor:"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_12_conference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_12_conference)
Endowments
See also: List of U.S. colleges and universities by endowment
Texas (System-wide) – $17.1 billion[67]
Kansas (System-wide) – $1.3 billion[67]
TCU – $1.2 billion[67]
Oklahoma (System-wide)– $1.2 billion[67]
Baylor – $1.1 billion[67]
Texas Tech (System-wide) – $891 million[67]
Oklahoma State (System-wide) – $682 million[67]
Iowa State – $612 million[67]
National Average – $490,946,000[68]
West Virginia (System-wide) – $406 million
Kansas State – $338 million[67]
You guys are really, really butthurt since KU signed Wiggins.
:love:
i told you not to bring up endowments. those dollars are spent.
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that's my point, who is talking about revenue??
Why wouldn't we be talking about revenue?
:confused:
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Zenger had to go take out a 30 year note from the Foundation Beems, nothing wrong with borrowing, but ku athletics clearly didn't have the cash.
No, that's butthurt K-State fan BS. The project is being privately funded and leased back to KU so that KU can potentially have concerts and events there that will sell alcohol.
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/apr/16/ku-officials-break-ground-rock-chalk-park-set-goal/ (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/apr/16/ku-officials-break-ground-rock-chalk-park-set-goal/)
The Rock Chalk project — which KU officials have said would cost KU about $40 million to build, but is being constructed and financed by Fritzel and leased back to the university — will include several components:
• a 7,336-seat track and field stadium designed to receive the highest Class I certification from track and field’s international governing body;
• a 2,156-seat soccer field;
• a 1,037-seat softball stadium that also will include a 12,715-square-foot indoor softball training facility;
• about 4,500 square feet of locker room space for the facilities, plus concession stands and other guest amenities.
• about 1,500 paved parking spaces, with a large grassy area to accommodate overflow parking.
Zenger said KU officials will use the facility — particularly the track and field stadium that is expected to become just the fifth U.S. track to meet the top international standard — to host both conference and national events.
“We’re going to try to host any championship that comes our way,” Zenger said, “and that means all the way up to the NCAA Championships.”
Stanley Redwine, head coach of KU’s track and field and cross country teams, said he expects the new facility to be a regular host of the Big 12 Track and Field Championships and to receive strong consideration for national-level youth championships for events sanctioned by USA Track & Field.
“I believe Lawrence could be really huge with track and field,” Redwine said. “There already is an interest here, and now we’ll have the facilities.”
All I read is that some poor school is borrowing $40M to improve facilities in non-revenue generating sports.
Genius :dubious:
LOL @ a fan of the poorest school in the Big 12 calling the 2nd-richest school "poor:"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_12_conference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_12_conference)
Endowments
See also: List of U.S. colleges and universities by endowment
Texas (System-wide) – $17.1 billion[67]
Kansas (System-wide) – $1.3 billion[67]
TCU – $1.2 billion[67]
Oklahoma (System-wide)– $1.2 billion[67]
Baylor – $1.1 billion[67]
Texas Tech (System-wide) – $891 million[67]
Oklahoma State (System-wide) – $682 million[67]
Iowa State – $612 million[67]
National Average – $490,946,000[68]
West Virginia (System-wide) – $406 million
Kansas State – $338 million[67]
You guys are really, really butthurt since KU signed Wiggins.
:love:
i told you not to bring up endowments. those dollars are spent.
No they're not. A lot of times the donations just have restrictions on where the money can be spent.
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It's pretty clear Beems has a bachelors of Arts degree, he sounds like an idiot when it comes to money.
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oh look, retards retardying this thread up again
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i'll just keep reposting until beems quits changing the subject he started..............
KU has plenty of cash. Much more than K-State. Also, you're comparing a track complex to a football stadium. Dipshit.
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:facepalm:
SuperEliteRichCats
2012 cash $49,052,081.42
The PoorHawks
2012 cash $4,538,861.00
:kstategrad:
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I wasn't just referring to 2012 cash and K-State's ability to manipulate their accounting books.
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It's pretty clear Beems has a bachelors of Arts degree, he sounds like an idiot when it comes to money.
You sound like a butthurt K-State fan who has bought into all the hype about how Currie is some financial guru, when in reality K-State just manipulates their accounting records differently than other schools.
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that's my point, who is talking about revenue??
Why wouldn't we be talking about revenue?
:confused:
Making $XXXXXMM by spending 2 * ($XXXXXMM) makes your point hilariously stupid.
Across the board, we do WAY MORE, WAY MORE EFFICIENTLY, WITH CONSIDERABLY LESS.
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I wasn't just referring to 2012 cash and K-State's ability to manipulate their accounting books.
that's the cash you have..........period.........lol at you acting as if there is some 2008 cash in an overseas account.
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It's pretty clear Beems has a bachelors of Arts degree, he sounds like an idiot when it comes to money.
You sound like a butthurt K-State fan who has bought into all the hype about how Currie is some financial guru, when in reality K-State just manipulates their accounting records differently than other schools.
^^^ butthurt poor
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I look forward to the day where Beems has a better comeback than "butthurt K-State fan"
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I wasn't just referring to 2012 cash and K-State's ability to manipulate their accounting books.
that's the cash you have..........period.........lol at you acting as if there is some 2008 cash in an overseas account.
The Williams Fund and the Endowment Association are different entities than the athletic department.
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It's pretty clear Beems has a bachelors of Arts degree, he sounds like an idiot when it comes to money.
You sound like a butthurt K-State fan who has bought into all the hype about how Currie is some financial guru, when in reality K-State just manipulates their accounting records differently than other schools.
^^^ butthurt poor
Says the butthurt fan of the poorest school in the Big 12.
:love:
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I wasn't just referring to 2012 cash and K-State's ability to manipulate their accounting books.
that's the cash you have..........period.........lol at you acting as if there is some 2008 cash in an overseas account.
The Williams Fund and the Endowment Association are different entities than the athletic department.
So is the Ahearn Fund and the Barrett Endowment Society .............now, what are we going to do about your AD statement of financial position ?
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In reading ku's various required financial reports it's not real clear as to where they got the nearly $9 million dollars to show themselves at the required minimum "break even" status athletic departments must be at in order to submit the their EADA report to the DOE, only to show a nearly $9 million dollar operational loss on the audited report.
FYI the combined operations of ku's men's and women's athletics per the FY 2012 EADA report showed a net operating loss of nearly $17 million dollars, which was made up in the nebulous "revenues not allocated to a specific sport".
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It's pretty clear Beems has a bachelors of Arts degree, he sounds like an idiot when it comes to money.
You sound like a butthurt K-State fan who has bought into all the hype about how Currie is some financial guru, when in reality K-State just manipulates their accounting records differently than other schools.
^^^ butthurt poor
Says the butthurt fan of the poorest school in the Big 12.
:love:
I look forward to the day where Beems has a better comeback than "butthurt K-State fan"
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I wasn't just referring to 2012 cash and K-State's ability to manipulate their accounting books.
that's the cash you have..........period.........lol at you acting as if there is some 2008 cash in an overseas account.
The Williams Fund and the Endowment Association are different entities than the athletic department.
So is the Ahearn Fund and the Barrett Endowment Society .............now, what are we going to do about your AD statement of financial position ?
KU allocates cash differently than K-State. Has nothing to do with who is in a better financial position. The number to look at is total athletic revenue, and KU has, and always will, generate more revenue than the little ag school on the prairie.
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I wasn't just referring to 2012 cash and K-State's ability to manipulate their accounting books.
that's the cash you have..........period.........lol at you acting as if there is some 2008 cash in an overseas account.
The Williams Fund and the Endowment Association are different entities than the athletic department.
So is the Ahearn Fund and the Barrett Endowment Society .............now, what are we going to do about your AD statement of financial position ?
KU allocates cash differently than K-State. Has nothing to do with who is in a better financial position. KU athletics has always generated more revenue than K-State.
Beems, care to tell us specifically where K-State allocates CASH differently than ku??
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I wasn't just referring to 2012 cash and K-State's ability to manipulate their accounting books.
that's the cash you have..........period.........lol at you acting as if there is some 2008 cash in an overseas account.
The Williams Fund and the Endowment Association are different entities than the athletic department.
So is the Ahearn Fund and the Barrett Endowment Society .............now, what are we going to do about your AD statement of financial position ?
KU allocates cash differently than K-State. Has nothing to do with who is in a better financial position. KU athletics has always generated more revenue than K-State.
Beems, care to tell us specifically where K-State allocates CASH differently than ku??
Looks like K-State hoards their cash within the athletic department. KU's cash is mostly in the Williams Fund and Endowment Association.
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I wasn't just referring to 2012 cash and K-State's ability to manipulate their accounting books.
that's the cash you have..........period.........lol at you acting as if there is some 2008 cash in an overseas account.
The Williams Fund and the Endowment Association are different entities than the athletic department.
So is the Ahearn Fund and the Barrett Endowment Society .............now, what are we going to do about your AD statement of financial position ?
KU allocates cash differently than K-State. Has nothing to do with who is in a better financial position. KU athletics has always generated more revenue than K-State.
Beems, care to tell us specifically where K-State allocates CASH differently than ku??
Looks like K-State hoards their cash within the athletic department. KU's cash is mostly in the Williams Fund and Endowment Association.
So the Williams Fund is a wholly separate financial reporting entity from ku athletics? Since it's a non profit, could you please point me to the audited Williams Fund financial report?
Oh, and K-State athletics keeps millions on accounts with the K-State Foundations as well (in funds marked unrestricted, temporarily restricted and restricted), but balances of those funds are specifically accounted for on K-State Athletics Inc. audited financial report.
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I wasn't just referring to 2012 cash and K-State's ability to manipulate their accounting books.
that's the cash you have..........period.........lol at you acting as if there is some 2008 cash in an overseas account.
The Williams Fund and the Endowment Association are different entities than the athletic department.
So is the Ahearn Fund and the Barrett Endowment Society .............now, what are we going to do about your AD statement of financial position ?
KU allocates cash differently than K-State. Has nothing to do with who is in a better financial position. KU athletics has always generated more revenue than K-State.
Beems, care to tell us specifically where K-State allocates CASH differently than ku??
Looks like K-State hoards their cash within the athletic department. KU's cash is mostly in the Williams Fund and Endowment Association.
why are you ignoring the post above that notified you that we too have separate "fund" and "endowment" entities?
Thing is, earnings are not retained to the balance sheets of those separate entities, if I'm not mistaken (don't think I am).
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It's pretty clear Beems has a bachelors of Arts degree, he sounds like an idiot when it comes to money.
You sound like a butthurt K-State fan who has bought into all the hype about how Currie is some financial guru, when in reality K-State just manipulates their accounting records differently than other schools.
^^^ butthurt poor
Says the butthurt fan of the poorest school in the Big 12.
:love:
I look forward to the day where Beems has a better comeback than "butthurt K-State fan"
Just calling a spade a spade. There are worse things than being butthurt.
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It's pretty clear Beems has a bachelors of Arts degree, he sounds like an idiot when it comes to money.
You sound like a butthurt K-State fan who has bought into all the hype about how Currie is some financial guru, when in reality K-State just manipulates their accounting records differently than other schools.
^^^ butthurt poor
Says the butthurt fan of the poorest school in the Big 12.
:love:
I look forward to the day where Beems has a better comeback than "butthurt K-State fan"
Just calling a spade a spade. There are worse things than being butthurt.
:opcat: .......why do you do this ? :dunno:
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Is "calling a spade a spade" racist? Can somebody tell me its origins so I can make sure to never use that phrase if so?
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So why wasn't all this cash used on the Gridiron Club (coming 2010)?
Beems needs to chill out. The crushing weight of our impending Triple Crown is driving him mad with rage.
Its not so bad being dominated by KSU in athletics. Ask every other school in the Big 12.
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So why wasn't all this cash used on the Gridiron Club (coming 2010)?
Beems needs to chill out. The crushing weight of our impending Triple Crown is driving him mad with rage.
Its not so bad being dominated by KSU in athletics. Ask every other school in the Big 12.
In 2010, KU had just finished spending over $100 million on AFH and the surrounding athletic facilities. Then the ticket scandal surfaced, the football team tanked, and Perkins/Mangino resigned. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why KU cancelled its Gridiron Club project at the time. Now with the new Rock Chalk Sports Complex set to be finished by next spring, KU will be able to upgrade the football stadium and do it right.
As for the Big 12, KU has nine straight Big 12 titles and has won multiple conference championships in other sports this season as well. K-State hasn't clinched baseball yet and in basketball we swept your pud little team in three games. The signing of Wiggins just puts into perspective how small-time and insignificant K-State is compared to big bro. You guys will be lucky to sign a 4-star prospect with Weber at the helm. Enjoy backing into the co-championship now, because this is as good as it's going to get for K-State athletics.
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:excited:
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Winning in a crippled, 10-team Big 12 = as good as it gets for K-State athletics. Celebrate good times, c'mon!
:dance:
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:lol:
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man beems is on fire, time to shut it down boys.
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Getting smoked by Oregon in the Fiesta Bowl and losing to LaSalle in the first round of the NCAA tourney must have been like a dream come true.
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Winning in a crippled, 10-team Big 12 = as good as it gets for K-State athletics. Celebrate good times, c'mon!
:dance:
This is great :billdance:
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Getting smoked by Oregon in the Fiesta Bowl and losing to LaSalle in the first round of the NCAA tourney must have been like a dream come true.
okay im good with the 0-3 vs you guys smack but living vicariously through another team is small timey. thats like me saying you got beat by tcu in the game you "invented" that crap is weak and you know it
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Love the "celebrate good times come on" thing. Probably may favorite OS schtick.
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Getting smoked by Oregon in the Fiesta Bowl and losing to LaSalle in the first round of the NCAA tourney must have been like a dream come true.
okay im good with the 0-3 vs you guys smack but living vicariously through another team is small timey. thats like me saying you got beat by tcu in the game you "invented" that crap is weak and you know it
Getting ass pounded by Baylor on national television, in the middle of a national title run, must have been like a gift from Heaven.
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You guys know how many bowl wins they've had vs. the last time we won a bowl game? A lot more, dork stores. Deal with it!!! Oh and don't give me this crap about competition and strength of the bowl games. They have an Orange Bowl!
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Losing 28 times in 34 conference football games including 18 straight in a "Crippled Big 12" Dancy Party!!
:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:
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yeah, ku is the superior program. just look at the bowls, and the endowment. it's really not close. :embarrassed:
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the university of kansas: well endowed :fatty:
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#45years
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He is taking the KSU dominance better than most ku fans. admirable
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Getting smoked by Oregon in the Fiesta Bowl and losing to LaSalle in the first round of the NCAA tourney must have been like a dream come true.
okay im good with the 0-3 vs you guys smack but living vicariously through another team is small timey. thats like me saying you got beat by tcu in the game you "invented" that crap is weak and you know it
Getting ass pounded by Baylor on national television, in the middle of a national title run, must have been like a gift from Heaven.
Awesome.
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KU has three Big 12 titles already this year: Men's basketball, indoor track & field, and outdoor track & field. K-State can tie us with three this weekend if the baseball team beats OU. Gotta admit, fellas... it feels good having the best all-around athletes in the Big 12.
:kstategrad:
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KU has three Big 12 titles already this year: Men's basketball, indoor track & field, and outdoor track & field. K-State can tie us with three this weekend if the baseball team beats OU. Gotta admit, fellas... it feels good having the best all-around athletes in the Big 12.
:kstategrad:
'grats on winning Women's Track and Field inside and out. That is HUGE.
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Everybody has to compare themselves to the Alpha. It's only natural.
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Man, I'm pretty crap at accounting, but Beems makes me feel a lot better about myself. :grin:
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Everybody has to compare themselves to the Alpha. It's only natural.
So the poorest school in the Big 12 with zero national titles in any team sport is an "alpha?" Thanks for the laughs.
Man, I'm pretty crap at accounting, but Beems makes me feel a lot better about myself. :grin:
This doesn't even make sense. You're in denial if you think that KU and K-State handle their books the same way.
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I wasn't just referring to 2012 cash and K-State's ability to manipulate their accounting books.
that's the cash you have..........period.........lol at you acting as if there is some 2008 cash in an overseas account.
The Williams Fund and the Endowment Association are different entities than the athletic department.
So is the Ahearn Fund and the Barrett Endowment Society .............now, what are we going to do about your AD statement of financial position ?
KU allocates cash differently than K-State. Has nothing to do with who is in a better financial position. The number to look at is total athletic revenue, and KU has, and always will, generate more revenue than the little ag school on the prairie.
Do you know what revenue is Beems?
You can have billions of dollars in revenue and still lose money out your ass.
KU/The federal government are poster child examples.
A company with 20mil/revenue can post higher profits than a company with a billion. It's pretty obvious accounting is a completely foreign concept to you.
What did KU give you a degree in? Sociology?
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KU has three Big 12 titles already this year: Men's basketball, indoor track & field, and outdoor track & field. K-State can tie us with three this weekend if the baseball team beats OU. Gotta admit, fellas... it feels good having the best all-around athletes in the Big 12.
:kstategrad:
'grats on winning Women's Track and Field inside and out. That is HUGE.
We'll take two more Big 12 titles to add to our massive collection. It's an embarrassment of riches in Lawrence right now.
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KU has three Big 12 titles already this year: Men's basketball, indoor track & field, and outdoor track & field. K-State can tie us with three this weekend if the baseball team beats OU. Gotta admit, fellas... it feels good having the best all-around athletes in the Big 12.
:kstategrad:
'grats on winning Women's Track and Field inside and out. That is HUGE.
We'll take two more Big 12 titles to add to our massive collection. It's an embarrassment of riches in Lawrence right now.
http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/state/kansas/study-lawrence-economy-worst-in-nation
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I wasn't just referring to 2012 cash and K-State's ability to manipulate their accounting books.
that's the cash you have..........period.........lol at you acting as if there is some 2008 cash in an overseas account.
The Williams Fund and the Endowment Association are different entities than the athletic department.
So is the Ahearn Fund and the Barrett Endowment Society .............now, what are we going to do about your AD statement of financial position ?
KU allocates cash differently than K-State. Has nothing to do with who is in a better financial position. The number to look at is total athletic revenue, and KU has, and always will, generate more revenue than the little ag school on the prairie.
Do you know what revenue is Beems?
You can have billions of dollars in revenue and still lose money out your ass.
KU/The federal government are poster child examples.
A company with 20mil/revenue can post higher profits than a company with a billion. It's pretty obvious accounting is a completely foreign concept to you.
What did KU give you a degree in? Sociology?
You're a rough ridin' moron. A company that generates a billion dollars in revenue easily exceeds a company that generates 20 million. Profit is nothing more than an accounting gimmick for a lot of companies. I have an economics degree and would run circles around you intellectually.
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I wasn't just referring to 2012 cash and K-State's ability to manipulate their accounting books.
that's the cash you have..........period.........lol at you acting as if there is some 2008 cash in an overseas account.
The Williams Fund and the Endowment Association are different entities than the athletic department.
So is the Ahearn Fund and the Barrett Endowment Society .............now, what are we going to do about your AD statement of financial position ?
KU allocates cash differently than K-State. Has nothing to do with who is in a better financial position. The number to look at is total athletic revenue, and KU has, and always will, generate more revenue than the little ag school on the prairie.
Do you know what revenue is Beems?
You can have billions of dollars in revenue and still lose money out your ass.
KU/The federal government are poster child examples.
A company with 20mil/revenue can post higher profits than a company with a billion. It's pretty obvious accounting is a completely foreign concept to you.
What did KU give you a degree in? Sociology?
You're a rough ridin' moron. A company that generates a billion dollars in revenue easily exceeds a company that generates 20 million. Profit is nothing more than an accounting gimmick for a lot of companies. I have an economics degree and would run circles around you intellectually.
:lol:
Profit is nothing more than an accounting gimmick
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I wasn't just referring to 2012 cash and K-State's ability to manipulate their accounting books.
that's the cash you have..........period.........lol at you acting as if there is some 2008 cash in an overseas account.
The Williams Fund and the Endowment Association are different entities than the athletic department.
So is the Ahearn Fund and the Barrett Endowment Society .............now, what are we going to do about your AD statement of financial position ?
KU allocates cash differently than K-State. Has nothing to do with who is in a better financial position. The number to look at is total athletic revenue, and KU has, and always will, generate more revenue than the little ag school on the prairie.
Do you know what revenue is Beems?
You can have billions of dollars in revenue and still lose money out your ass.
KU/The federal government are poster child examples.
A company with 20mil/revenue can post higher profits than a company with a billion. It's pretty obvious accounting is a completely foreign concept to you.
What did KU give you a degree in? Sociology?
You're a rough ridin' moron. A company that generates a billion dollars in revenue easily exceeds a company that generates 20 million. Profit is nothing more than an accounting gimmick for a lot of companies. I have an economics degree and would run circles around you intellectually.
:lol:
Profit is nothing more than an accounting gimmick
Here's an example, junior:
http://problembanklist.com/increase-in-third-quarter-banking-profits-largely-due-to-phony-accounting-gimmics-0438/ (http://problembanklist.com/increase-in-third-quarter-banking-profits-largely-due-to-phony-accounting-gimmics-0438/)
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This thread is always fun when OS comes in and tries to convince everyone KU is poor AF.
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This thread is always fun when OS comes in and tries to convince everyone KU is poor AF.
Hey look, it's Butthurt Boy. Tell us where Wiggins is going, Butthurt Boy. TIA.
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This thread is always fun when OS comes in and tries to convince everyone KU is poor AF.
Hey look, it's Butthurt Boy. Tell us where Wiggins is going, Butthurt Boy. TIA.
Wow hang that banner high bud! I'm glad you can brag and call me butthurt over me saying a recruit wasn't going to go to KU and he does. Big win for ya! Tell ya what I will go half and half on purchasing said banner because you, like most 'hawkers are poor AF.
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In fairness, most ku fans I know are melting down even more than Beems over KSU's triple crown. They know they'll never get close to it.
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I wasn't just referring to 2012 cash and K-State's ability to manipulate their accounting books.
that's the cash you have..........period.........lol at you acting as if there is some 2008 cash in an overseas account.
The Williams Fund and the Endowment Association are different entities than the athletic department.
So is the Ahearn Fund and the Barrett Endowment Society .............now, what are we going to do about your AD statement of financial position ?
KU allocates cash differently than K-State. Has nothing to do with who is in a better financial position. The number to look at is total athletic revenue, and KU has, and always will, generate more revenue than the little ag school on the prairie.
Do you know what revenue is Beems?
You can have billions of dollars in revenue and still lose money out your ass.
KU/The federal government are poster child examples.
A company with 20mil/revenue can post higher profits than a company with a billion. It's pretty obvious accounting is a completely foreign concept to you.
What did KU give you a degree in? Sociology?
You're a rough ridin' moron. A company that generates a billion dollars in revenue easily exceeds a company that generates 20 million. Profit is nothing more than an accounting gimmick for a lot of companies. I have an economics degree and would run circles around you intellectually.
:lol:
Profit is nothing more than an accounting gimmick
Here's an example, junior:
http://problembanklist.com/increase-in-third-quarter-banking-profits-largely-due-to-phony-accounting-gimmics-0438/ (http://problembanklist.com/increase-in-third-quarter-banking-profits-largely-due-to-phony-accounting-gimmics-0438/)
A personal blog written by nobody exclaiming Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) crap?
Neva seen dat be'fo!
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This thread is always fun when OS comes in and tries to convince everyone KU is poor AF.
Hey look, it's Butthurt Boy. Tell us where Wiggins is going, Butthurt Boy. TIA.
Wow hang that banner high bud! I'm glad you can brag and call me butthurt over me saying a recruit wasn't going to go to KU and he does. Big win for ya! Tell ya what I will go half and half on purchasing said banner because you, like most 'hawkers are poor AF.
Spoken like a true Butthurt Boy. Congrats, champ.
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In fairness, most ku fans I know are melting down even more than Beems over KSU's triple crown. They know they'll never get close to it.
Hell, KU went to a Final Four, College World Series, and bowl game back in the early 90's, and is currently one of three teams to belong to the BCS Bowl/national championship combo club (the other two are Florida and Louisville). We look down on lil bro from the top of our mountain, although it is fun watching lil bro grow up a little bit and act all tough.
:thumbsup:
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I wasn't just referring to 2012 cash and K-State's ability to manipulate their accounting books.
that's the cash you have..........period.........lol at you acting as if there is some 2008 cash in an overseas account.
The Williams Fund and the Endowment Association are different entities than the athletic department.
So is the Ahearn Fund and the Barrett Endowment Society .............now, what are we going to do about your AD statement of financial position ?
KU allocates cash differently than K-State. Has nothing to do with who is in a better financial position. The number to look at is total athletic revenue, and KU has, and always will, generate more revenue than the little ag school on the prairie.
Do you know what revenue is Beems?
You can have billions of dollars in revenue and still lose money out your ass.
KU/The federal government are poster child examples.
A company with 20mil/revenue can post higher profits than a company with a billion. It's pretty obvious accounting is a completely foreign concept to you.
What did KU give you a degree in? Sociology?
You're a rough ridin' moron. A company that generates a billion dollars in revenue easily exceeds a company that generates 20 million. Profit is nothing more than an accounting gimmick for a lot of companies. I have an economics degree and would run circles around you intellectually.
:lol:
Profit is nothing more than an accounting gimmick
Here's an example, junior:
http://problembanklist.com/increase-in-third-quarter-banking-profits-largely-due-to-phony-accounting-gimmics-0438/ (http://problembanklist.com/increase-in-third-quarter-banking-profits-largely-due-to-phony-accounting-gimmics-0438/)
A personal blog written by nobody exclaiming Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) crap?
Neva seen dat be'fo!
Looks like you need to either go back to school, or get some friends who have money and work in finance for the Department of Energy.
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In fairness, most ku fans I know are melting down even more than Beems over KSU's triple crown. They know they'll never get close to it.
Hell, KU went to a Final Four, College World Series, and bowl game back in the early 90's, and is currently one of three teams to belong to the BCS Bowl/national championship combo club (the other two are Florida and Louisville). We look down on lil bro from the top of our mountain, although it is fun watching big bro grow up a little bit and act all tough.
:thumbsup:
Went to a bowl!? :horrorsurprise:
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I wasn't just referring to 2012 cash and K-State's ability to manipulate their accounting books.
that's the cash you have..........period.........lol at you acting as if there is some 2008 cash in an overseas account.
The Williams Fund and the Endowment Association are different entities than the athletic department.
So is the Ahearn Fund and the Barrett Endowment Society .............now, what are we going to do about your AD statement of financial position ?
KU allocates cash differently than K-State. Has nothing to do with who is in a better financial position. The number to look at is total athletic revenue, and KU has, and always will, generate more revenue than the little ag school on the prairie.
Do you know what revenue is Beems?
You can have billions of dollars in revenue and still lose money out your ass.
KU/The federal government are poster child examples.
A company with 20mil/revenue can post higher profits than a company with a billion. It's pretty obvious accounting is a completely foreign concept to you.
What did KU give you a degree in? Sociology?
You're a rough ridin' moron. A company that generates a billion dollars in revenue easily exceeds a company that generates 20 million. Profit is nothing more than an accounting gimmick for a lot of companies. I have an economics degree and would run circles around you intellectually.
:lol:
Profit is nothing more than an accounting gimmick
Here's an example, junior:
http://problembanklist.com/increase-in-third-quarter-banking-profits-largely-due-to-phony-accounting-gimmics-0438/ (http://problembanklist.com/increase-in-third-quarter-banking-profits-largely-due-to-phony-accounting-gimmics-0438/)
A personal blog written by nobody exclaiming Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) crap?
Neva seen dat be'fo!
Looks like you need to either go back to school, or get some friends who have money and work in finance for the Department of Energy.
Nobody with a degree in finance and a brain to match it would ever work for the .gov. The career ceiling is too low.
You're in rare form today Beems. Keep it up :thumbs:
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I wasn't just referring to 2012 cash and K-State's ability to manipulate their accounting books.
that's the cash you have..........period.........lol at you acting as if there is some 2008 cash in an overseas account.
The Williams Fund and the Endowment Association are different entities than the athletic department.
So is the Ahearn Fund and the Barrett Endowment Society .............now, what are we going to do about your AD statement of financial position ?
KU allocates cash differently than K-State. Has nothing to do with who is in a better financial position. The number to look at is total athletic revenue, and KU has, and always will, generate more revenue than the little ag school on the prairie.
Do you know what revenue is Beems?
You can have billions of dollars in revenue and still lose money out your ass.
KU/The federal government are poster child examples.
A company with 20mil/revenue can post higher profits than a company with a billion. It's pretty obvious accounting is a completely foreign concept to you.
What did KU give you a degree in? Sociology?
You're a rough ridin' moron. A company that generates a billion dollars in revenue easily exceeds a company that generates 20 million. Profit is nothing more than an accounting gimmick for a lot of companies. I have an economics degree and would run circles around you intellectually.
:lol:
Profit is nothing more than an accounting gimmick
Here's an example, junior:
http://problembanklist.com/increase-in-third-quarter-banking-profits-largely-due-to-phony-accounting-gimmics-0438/ (http://problembanklist.com/increase-in-third-quarter-banking-profits-largely-due-to-phony-accounting-gimmics-0438/)
A personal blog written by nobody exclaiming Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) crap?
Neva seen dat be'fo!
Looks like you need to either go back to school, or get some friends who have money and work in finance for the Department of Energy.
Wait, what? Is someone bragging about a government job?
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In fairness, most ku fans I know are melting down even more than Beems over KSU's triple crown. They know they'll never get close to it.
Hell, KU went to a Final Four, College World Series, and bowl game back in the early 90's, and is currently one of three teams to belong to the BCS Bowl/national championship combo club (the other two are Florida and Louisville). We look down on lil bro from the top of our mountain, although it is fun watching big bro grow up a little bit and act all tough.
:thumbsup:
Went to a bowl!? :horrorsurprise:
Yeah, there was no BCS in the early '90's. Bowls were a lot more exclusive back then than they are now. It figures that you'd focus on the bowl and exclude the Final Four and CWS, though. So, so butthurt.
:love:
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I wasn't just referring to 2012 cash and K-State's ability to manipulate their accounting books.
that's the cash you have..........period.........lol at you acting as if there is some 2008 cash in an overseas account.
The Williams Fund and the Endowment Association are different entities than the athletic department.
So is the Ahearn Fund and the Barrett Endowment Society .............now, what are we going to do about your AD statement of financial position ?
KU allocates cash differently than K-State. Has nothing to do with who is in a better financial position. The number to look at is total athletic revenue, and KU has, and always will, generate more revenue than the little ag school on the prairie.
Do you know what revenue is Beems?
You can have billions of dollars in revenue and still lose money out your ass.
KU/The federal government are poster child examples.
A company with 20mil/revenue can post higher profits than a company with a billion. It's pretty obvious accounting is a completely foreign concept to you.
What did KU give you a degree in? Sociology?
You're a rough ridin' moron. A company that generates a billion dollars in revenue easily exceeds a company that generates 20 million. Profit is nothing more than an accounting gimmick for a lot of companies. I have an economics degree and would run circles around you intellectually.
:lol:
Profit is nothing more than an accounting gimmick
Here's an example, junior:
http://problembanklist.com/increase-in-third-quarter-banking-profits-largely-due-to-phony-accounting-gimmics-0438/ (http://problembanklist.com/increase-in-third-quarter-banking-profits-largely-due-to-phony-accounting-gimmics-0438/)
A personal blog written by nobody exclaiming Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) crap?
Neva seen dat be'fo!
Looks like you need to either go back to school, or get some friends who have money and work in finance for the Department of Energy.
Nobody with a degree in finance and a brain to match it would ever work for the .gov. The career ceiling is too low.
You're in rare form today Beems. Keep it up :thumbs:
Yeah I'm sure the Secretary of Energy makes a meager salary. Dipshit.
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In fairness, most ku fans I know are melting down even more than Beems over KSU's triple crown. They know they'll never get close to it.
Hell, KU went to a Final Four, College World Series, and bowl game back in the early 90's, and is currently one of three teams to belong to the BCS Bowl/national championship combo club (the other two are Florida and Louisville). We look down on lil bro from the top of our mountain, although it is fun watching big bro grow up a little bit and act all tough.
:thumbsup:
Went to a bowl!? :horrorsurprise:
Yeah, there was no BCS in the early '90's. Bowls were a lot more exclusive back then than they are now. It figures that you'd focus on the bowl and exclude the Final Four and CWS, though. So, so butthurt.
:love:
Football is kind of a big deal to everyone in America except Kansas fans.
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This meltdown is humming
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In fairness, most ku fans I know are melting down even more than Beems over KSU's triple crown. They know they'll never get close to it.
Hell, KU went to a Final Four, College World Series, and bowl game back in the early 90's, and is currently one of three teams to belong to the BCS Bowl/national championship combo club (the other two are Florida and Louisville). We look down on lil bro from the top of our mountain, although it is fun watching big bro grow up a little bit and act all tough.
:thumbsup:
Went to a bowl!? :horrorsurprise:
Yeah, there was no BCS in the early '90's. Bowls were a lot more exclusive back then than they are now. It figures that you'd focus on the bowl and exclude the Final Four and CWS, though. So, so butthurt.
:love:
Football is kind of a big deal to everyone in America except Kansas fans.
Says the guy who has never experienced a 12-win season or a BCS victory.
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This thread is always fun when OS comes in and tries to convince everyone KU is poor AF.
Hey look, it's Butthurt Boy. Tell us where Wiggins is going, Butthurt Boy. TIA.
Wow hang that banner high bud! I'm glad you can brag and call me butthurt over me saying a recruit wasn't going to go to KU and he does. Big win for ya! Tell ya what I will go half and half on purchasing said banner because you, like most 'hawkers are poor AF.
Spoken like a true Butthurt Boy. Congrats, champ.
Why are you so mad OS? Y'all got Wiggans!!! Celebrate good times :TSC:
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Never won the conference. Ever :emawkid:
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This thread is always fun when OS comes in and tries to convince everyone KU is poor AF.
Hey look, it's Butthurt Boy. Tell us where Wiggins is going, Butthurt Boy. TIA.
Wow hang that banner high bud! I'm glad you can brag and call me butthurt over me saying a recruit wasn't going to go to KU and he does. Big win for ya! Tell ya what I will go half and half on purchasing said banner because you, like most 'hawkers are poor AF.
Spoken like a true Butthurt Boy. Congrats, champ.
Why are you so mad OS? Y'all got Wiggans!!! Celebrate good times :TSC:
Exactly. They got a basketball recruit. Who cares if we punked their football and baseball teams like bitches?
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Will the "BCS victory" talking point go away once the new playoff starts? We won the Fiesta Bowl the year before the BCS was started so that doesn't count to KU fans, so what happens when there is no BCS?
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did ku really spend 100 million effing dollars on AFH when the football stadium is in such piss poor shape? holy crap
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did ku really spend 100 million effing dollars on AFH when the football stadium is in such piss poor shape? holy crap
it's not like AFH is in all that great of shape either...
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Will the "BCS victory" talking point go away once the new playoff starts? We won the Fiesta Bowl the year before the BCS was started so that doesn't count to KU fans, so what happens when there is no BCS?
At least until they win a conference game. So, a long time
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did ku really spend 100 million effing dollars on AFH when the football stadium is in such piss poor shape? holy crap
it's not like AFH is in all that great of shape either...
HOW DARE YOU PHOG ALLEN FIELDHOUSE IS A LIVING MUSEUM TO WHERE BASKETBALL WAS INVENTED PLAYED AND PERFECTED. AFH IS THE SINGLE GREATEST VENUE TO WATCH A SPORTING EVENT AND IS IN MUCH BETTER SHAPE THAN AFH WEST YOU GRAPE. :shakesfist:
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I went to the KState game in Lawrence when we beat KU by like 7 TDs, well I should be more specific, the third to last time we beat them by like 7 TDs, or maybe it was 4th to last time, I can't keep the ass whoopings straight, anyways it was 3-4 years ago and all I could think about was how shitty the stadium was. Its the most small timely antiquated vanilla anonymous stadium you'll ever go to. Think of a low A minor league baseball stadium without the advertisements and hilarious side shows. Its without question one of the worst venues in college football. The aurrounding area is also an enormous shithole, like a Renaissance festival in the poorest slum imaginable.
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From the outside you're like, "when are the masons coming back to start the stone work? Oh its supposed to look like cement scaffolding? Are you sure?"
Then you go inside and and sit in your first row seat :ksugrad: only to be dissapointed that you're still 30 yards from the sideline because they have a track inside. To make matters worse they apparently purchased the old jumbotron from the K at a salvage sale and dressed it up with more concrete and some fugitives name. Then, to my astonishment, they inflate a tunnel for players to run out of while a fog machine (likely borrowed from the Edge of Hell) belches smoke onto the field. Reminded me of that last scene from the movie the wrestler and was equally depressing.
Don't even get me started on the concessions (or lack thereof) and the filthy bathrooms that would make even a night shift trucker blush. Just a comically terrible fan experience.
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In fairness, most ku fans I know are melting down even more than Beems over KSU's triple crown. They know they'll never get close to it.
Hell, KU went to a Final Four, College World Series, and bowl game back in the early 90's, and is currently one of three teams to belong to the BCS Bowl/national championship combo club (the other two are Florida and Louisville). We look down on lil bro from the top of our mountain, although it is fun watching big bro grow up a little bit and act all tough.
:thumbsup:
Went to a bowl!? :horrorsurprise:
Yeah, there was no BCS in the early '90's. Bowls were a lot more exclusive back then than they are now. It figures that you'd focus on the bowl and exclude the Final Four and CWS, though. So, so butthurt.
:love:
So like a fiesta bowl win in the 90's is a bigger deal than an orange bowl win a couple of years ago?
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In fairness, most ku fans I know are melting down even more than Beems over KSU's triple crown. They know they'll never get close to it.
Hell, KU went to a Final Four, College World Series, and bowl game back in the early 90's, and is currently one of three teams to belong to the BCS Bowl/national championship combo club (the other two are Florida and Louisville). We look down on lil bro from the top of our mountain, although it is fun watching big bro grow up a little bit and act all tough.
:thumbsup:
Went to a bowl!? :horrorsurprise:
Yeah, there was no BCS in the early '90's. Bowls were a lot more exclusive back then than they are now. It figures that you'd focus on the bowl and exclude the Final Four and CWS, though. So, so butthurt.
:love:
So like a fiesta bowl win in the 90's is a bigger deal than an orange bowl win a couple of years ago?
yeah.
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In fairness, most ku fans I know are melting down even more than Beems over KSU's triple crown. They know they'll never get close to it.
Hell, KU went to a Final Four, College World Series, and bowl game back in the early 90's, and is currently one of three teams to belong to the BCS Bowl/national championship combo club (the other two are Florida and Louisville). We look down on lil bro from the top of our mountain, although it is fun watching big bro grow up a little bit and act all tough.
:thumbsup:
Went to a bowl!? :horrorsurprise:
Yeah, there was no BCS in the early '90's. Bowls were a lot more exclusive back then than they are now. It figures that you'd focus on the bowl and exclude the Final Four and CWS, though. So, so butthurt.
:love:
So like a fiesta bowl win in the 90's is a bigger deal than an orange bowl win a couple of years ago?
Easily. Much bigger deal to win conf now than go to a bowl.
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I wasn't just referring to 2012 cash and K-State's ability to manipulate their accounting books.
that's the cash you have..........period.........lol at you acting as if there is some 2008 cash in an overseas account.
The Williams Fund and the Endowment Association are different entities than the athletic department.
So is the Ahearn Fund and the Barrett Endowment Society .............now, what are we going to do about your AD statement of financial position ?
KU allocates cash differently than K-State. Has nothing to do with who is in a better financial position. The number to look at is total athletic revenue, and KU has, and always will, generate more revenue than the little ag school on the prairie.
Do you know what revenue is Beems?
You can have billions of dollars in revenue and still lose money out your ass.
KU/The federal government are poster child examples.
A company with 20mil/revenue can post higher profits than a company with a billion. It's pretty obvious accounting is a completely foreign concept to you.
What did KU give you a degree in? Sociology?
You're a rough ridin' moron. A company that generates a billion dollars in revenue easily exceeds a company that generates 20 million. Profit is nothing more than an accounting gimmick for a lot of companies. I have an economics degree and would run circles around you intellectually.
:lol:
Profit is nothing more than an accounting gimmick
Here's an example, junior:
http://problembanklist.com/increase-in-third-quarter-banking-profits-largely-due-to-phony-accounting-gimmics-0438/ (http://problembanklist.com/increase-in-third-quarter-banking-profits-largely-due-to-phony-accounting-gimmics-0438/)
A personal blog written by nobody exclaiming Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) crap?
Neva seen dat be'fo!
Looks like you need to either go back to school, or get some friends who have money and work in finance for the Department of Energy.
Nobody with a degree in finance and a brain to match it would ever work for the .gov. The career ceiling is too low.
You're in rare form today Beems. Keep it up :thumbs:
Yeah I'm sure the Secretary of Energy makes a meager salary. Dipshit.
Actually he does.
Only a KU fan would equate an unrelated appointed position in the U.S. Gov. to a finance degree.
The Football/basketball talking point doesn't translate to other sectors of life beams.
RCJH!
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I find it interesting that this thread is so long. KU's Memorial Stadium is a dump, a disaster, and an embarassment to KU. What else can be said. Blow it up, KU.
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I wasn't just referring to 2012 cash and K-State's ability to manipulate their accounting books.
that's the cash you have..........period.........lol at you acting as if there is some 2008 cash in an overseas account.
The Williams Fund and the Endowment Association are different entities than the athletic department.
So is the Ahearn Fund and the Barrett Endowment Society .............now, what are we going to do about your AD statement of financial position ?
KU allocates cash differently than K-State. Has nothing to do with who is in a better financial position. The number to look at is total athletic revenue, and KU has, and always will, generate more revenue than the little ag school on the prairie.
Do you know what revenue is Beems?
You can have billions of dollars in revenue and still lose money out your ass.
KU/The federal government are poster child examples.
A company with 20mil/revenue can post higher profits than a company with a billion. It's pretty obvious accounting is a completely foreign concept to you.
What did KU give you a degree in? Sociology?
You're a rough ridin' moron. A company that generates a billion dollars in revenue easily exceeds a company that generates 20 million. Profit is nothing more than an accounting gimmick for a lot of companies. I have an economics degree and would run circles around you intellectually.
Whoa, whoa, whoa! An economics degree??? Now that is priceless. A doofus that can debate monetarism vs. Keynesism, or draw me a Phillips Curve. :lol: :lol: :lol: And you represent yourself as being able to hold up your end of the conversation about real world finance? THAT is hilarious. You don't have the qualifications to even ask the right question, much less know the right answers. AND you got your economics degree from the University of Kansas, one of the pud economics departments in the Midwest. This is the bestest post of all time for you.
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ECONOMICS IS NOTHING TO LAUGH AT DEPUTY DAWG! :shakesfist:
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Everyone i know who has an economics degree, got one to compliment another degree (CS, finance, etc) Like it was some fancy spice to put on an otherwise flavorful meal, never on its own... i mean, you wouldn't eat a bowl of salt for breakfast, would you?
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I find it interesting that this thread is so long. KU's Memorial Stadium is a dump, a disaster, and an embarassment to KU. What else can be said. Blow it up, KU.
usually OS comes out of nowhere and starts dumping in the BSFS thread and mods have to mod it up and clean that thread and this is where they dump it. If you go back and read the entire thread it is mainly the exact same thing over and over and over again.
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Everyone i know who has an economics degree, got one to compliment another degree (CS, finance, etc) Like it was some fancy spice to put on an otherwise flavorful meal, never on its own... i mean, you wouldn't eat a bowl of salt for breakfast, would you?
MAYBE SOME PEOPLE WOULD FUCKFACE
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:D
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eff the Econ haters.
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I thought econ was were failed engineering and math and statistics people washed up at.
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I thought econ was were failed engineering and math and statistics people washed up at.
NOPE
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The only "C" I got in college was in Econ. Props at being good at it SD.
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Everyone i know who has an economics degree, got one to compliment another degree (CS, finance, etc) Like it was some fancy spice to put on an otherwise flavorful meal, never on its own... i mean, you wouldn't eat a bowl of salt for breakfast, would you?
I have POLSC and ECON, so 2 worthless degrees. Basically, I am eating a bowl of paprika and cumin for dinner.
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eff the Econ haters.
Not an econ hater. Do not like anyone who assumes the mantle of financial reporting expertise when they don't have it, and an economics degree does not prepare one well for knowing a lot about financial reporting. That does not take away from their otherwise fine body of knowledge.
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You're a rough ridin' moron. A company that generates a billion dollars in revenue easily exceeds a company that generates 20 million. Profit is nothing more than an accounting gimmick for a lot of companies. I have an economics degree and would run circles around you intellectually.
just an amazing post.
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You're a rough ridin' moron. A company that generates a billion dollars in revenue easily exceeds a company that generates 20 million. Profit is nothing more than an accounting gimmick for a lot of companies. I have an economics degree and would run circles around you intellectually.
just an amazing post.
it really is.
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eff the Econ haters.
Not an econ hater. Do not like anyone who assumes the mantle of financial reporting expertise when they don't have it, and an economics degree does not prepare one well for knowing a lot about financial reporting. That does not take away from their otherwise fine body of knowledge.
yeah, confirmed
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I'd really love to be on a Street Call where a CEO gets on there and tells the Street that his/her company is never actually going to make any money and then follows that statement up with, "and hey, revenue is just an accounting gimmick anyway".
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I'd really love to be on a Street Call where a CEO gets on there and tells the Street that his/her company is never actually going to make any money and then follows that statement up with, "and hey, revenue is just an accounting gimmick anyway".
I think he said profits.
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I'd really love to be on a Street Call where a CEO gets on there and tells the Street that his/her company is never actually going to make any money and then follows that statement up with, "and hey, revenue is just an accounting gimmick anyway".
I think he said profits.
Yep and thus I used a bad analogy. But in the case of non profits, aren't we really just concerned with total operating expenses and total revenue generated?
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I'd really love to be on a Street Call where a CEO gets on there and tells the Street that his/her company is never actually going to make any money and then follows that statement up with, "and hey, revenue is just an accounting gimmick anyway".
I think he said profits.
Yep and thus I used a bad analogy. But in the case of non profits, aren't we really just concerned with total operating expenses and total revenue generated?
That's the point.
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I'd really love to be on a Street Call where a CEO gets on there and tells the Street that his/her company is never actually going to make any money and then follows that statement up with, "and hey, revenue is just an accounting gimmick anyway".
I think he said profits.
Yep and thus I used a bad analogy. But in the case of non profits, aren't we really just concerned with total operating expenses and total revenue generated?
That's the point.
If that revenue was being spent on something worth a crap, then yes, it would matter. Unfortunately, KU's stadium is the worst in the conference and would still be bottom 25% after upgrades.
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I'd really love to be on a Street Call where a CEO gets on there and tells the Street that his/her company is never actually going to make any money and then follows that statement up with, "and hey, revenue is just an accounting gimmick anyway".
I think he said profits.
Yep and thus I used a bad analogy. But in the case of non profits, aren't we really just concerned with total operating expenses and total revenue generated?
That's the point.
If that revenue was being spent on something worth a crap, then yes, it would matter. Unfortunately, KU's stadium is the worst in the conference and would still be bottom 25% after upgrades.
That's like, your opinion, man. KU has upgraded multiple athletic facilities over the years. AFH is the best place to watch a college basketball game in the world. Once the Rock Chalk Sports Complex is complete next spring, KU will be able to renovate the football stadium.
As for K-State, your athletic department has fewer sports programs than most (if not all) schools in the Big 12. Therefore you have less expenses than most other athletic departments in the conference. Also, I've heard that K-State counts its long-term capital assets towards its current athletic revenue. Most schools count that type of stuff toward their Endowment.
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I'd really love to be on a Street Call where a CEO gets on there and tells the Street that his/her company is never actually going to make any money and then follows that statement up with, "and hey, revenue is just an accounting gimmick anyway".
I think he said profits.
Yep and thus I used a bad analogy. But in the case of non profits, aren't we really just concerned with total operating expenses and total revenue generated?
That's the point.
If that revenue was being spent on something worth a crap, then yes, it would matter. Unfortunately, KU's stadium is the worst in the conference and would still be bottom 25% after upgrades.
That's like, your opinion, man. KU has upgraded multiple athletic facilities over the years. AFH is the best place to watch a college basketball game in the world. Once the Rock Chalk Sports Complex is complete next spring, KU will be able to renovate the football stadium.
As for K-State, your athletic department has fewer sports programs than most (if not all) schools in the Big 12. Therefore you have less expenses than most other athletic departments in the conference. Also, I've heard that K-State counts its long-term capital assets towards its current athletic revenue. Most schools count that type of stuff toward their Endowment.
So your KU endowment taking point goes by the wayside?
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That's like, your opinion, man. KU has upgraded multiple athletic facilities over the years. AFH is the best place to watch a college basketball game in the world. Once the Rock Chalk Sports Complex is complete next spring, KU will be able to renovate the football stadium.
KU football and Memorial Stadium are, without question, the worst in the conference by anyone that's ever assessed Big 12 football. It's pretty much everyone's opinion. :lol: :lol: at the "best place to watch a college basketball game in the world" talking point. That's a common perception among Lawrence / Johnson County inbreds that don't have any other collegiate basketball viewing experience, and parrot what they're told by other KU fans. BTW, I've been to Allen for several games, and it's not as great as you say it is. The smell is the worst I've experienced in any sporting event I've ever attended.
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Also, I've heard that K-State counts its long-term capital assets towards its current athletic revenue.
Answer me this, economics/financial guru (that can run intellectual circles around everyone else here): How do you count an expenditure (long-term capital assets) as revenue? Translation: How do you count an investment in bricks and mortar as income?
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I'd really love to be on a Street Call where a CEO gets on there and tells the Street that his/her company is never actually going to make any money and then follows that statement up with, "and hey, revenue is just an accounting gimmick anyway".
I think he said profits.
Yep and thus I used a bad analogy. But in the case of non profits, aren't we really just concerned with total operating expenses and total revenue generated?
That's the point.
If that revenue was being spent on something worth a crap, then yes, it would matter. Unfortunately, KU's stadium is the worst in the conference and would still be bottom 25% after upgrades.
That's like, your opinion, man. KU has upgraded multiple athletic facilities over the years. AFH is the best place to watch a college basketball game in the world. Once the Rock Chalk Sports Complex is complete next spring, KU will be able to renovate the football stadium.
As for K-State, your athletic department has fewer sports programs than most (if not all) schools in the Big 12. Therefore you have less expenses than most other athletic departments in the conference. Also, I've heard that K-State counts its long-term capital assets towards its current athletic revenue. Most schools count that type of stuff toward their Endowment.
Non-Profit Accounting Basics:
FASB116 stipulates that "unconditional promises to give" are to be recorded at the time the NFP receives notification of the promise. This notification must be in written form, oral promises should not be recorded. FASB defines a condition as a "future and uncertain event" that must occur for the promise to give to become binding.
In many cases, the only notification an NFP receives is when they receive the contribution. In this case it is clear that the entire contribution must be recorded at that time.
However, in other cases the NFP will receive notification of a contribution prior to the actual receipt of the funds. In this case the NFP must determine if they have received an "unconditional promise to give", if so the revenue must be recorded.
If you're including Facilities in "Long Term Capital Assets" . . . upon completion, all facilities projects are transferred to the State of Kansas and are never shown on the books as an Asset of the Athletic Department.
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That's like, your opinion, man. KU has upgraded multiple athletic facilities over the years. AFH is the best place to watch a college basketball game in the world. Once the Rock Chalk Sports Complex is complete next spring, KU will be able to renovate the football stadium.
KU football and Memorial Stadium are, without question, the worst in the conference by anyone that's ever assessed Big 12 football. It's pretty much everyone's opinion. :lol: :lol: at the "best place to watch a college basketball game in the world" talking point. That's a common perception among Lawrence / Johnson County inbreds that don't have any other collegiate basketball viewing experience, and parrot what they're told by other KU fans. BTW, I've been to Allen for several games, and it's not as great as you say it is. The smell is the worst I've experienced in any sporting event I've ever attended.
Baylor, Texas Tech, and Iowa State all have worse stadiums than KU at the moment. K-State's was worse until the renovation. As for AFH, you're just another butthurt K-State fan in a long line of butthurt K-State fans who have claimed that AFH wasn't "that great." The place was just completely renovated in 2010, so if you're talking about a smell, you likely haven't visited since the early 1990's. Also, Business Insider did a top 100 venues in sports list, and AFH is ranked 12th (#1 for any basketball venue).
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-top-100-venues-in-sports (http://www.businessinsider.com/the-top-100-venues-in-sports)
15. Yankee Stadium
14. Cameron Indoor Stadium
13. Estadio Azteca
12. Phog Allen Field House
11. Wembley Stadium
10. Ibrox Stadium
9. Estadio Alberto J. Armando (La Bombonera)
8. Stadio Giuseppe Meazza (San Siro)
7. Stade Louis II
6. Stamford Bridge
5. Fenway Park
4. L'Estadi Camp Nou
3. Soldier Field
2. Wrigley Field
1. Lambeau Field
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Also, I've heard that K-State counts its long-term capital assets towards its current athletic revenue.
Answer me this, economics/financial guru (that can run intellectual circles around everyone else here): How do you count an expenditure (long-term capital assets) as revenue? Translation: How do you count an investment in bricks and mortar as income?
wut
Sounds like you don't know what a long-term capital asset is.
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Because Business Insider is the #1 source for anything sports related
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I'd really love to be on a Street Call where a CEO gets on there and tells the Street that his/her company is never actually going to make any money and then follows that statement up with, "and hey, revenue is just an accounting gimmick anyway".
I think he said profits.
Yep and thus I used a bad analogy. But in the case of non profits, aren't we really just concerned with total operating expenses and total revenue generated?
That's the point.
If that revenue was being spent on something worth a crap, then yes, it would matter. Unfortunately, KU's stadium is the worst in the conference and would still be bottom 25% after upgrades.
KU's money is being spent on buyouts for Mangino, Gill, Perkins etc. and for paying Charlie Weis and his assistants about double market value.
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Also, I've heard that K-State counts its long-term capital assets towards its current athletic revenue.
Answer me this, economics/financial guru (that can run intellectual circles around everyone else here): How do you count an expenditure (long-term capital assets) as revenue? Translation: How do you count an investment in bricks and mortar as income?
wut
Sounds like you don't know what a long-term capital asset is.
umm I think maybe you need to look up the defintion, he seems to have a pretty good handle on it.
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I'd really love to be on a Street Call where a CEO gets on there and tells the Street that his/her company is never actually going to make any money and then follows that statement up with, "and hey, revenue is just an accounting gimmick anyway".
I think he said profits.
Yep and thus I used a bad analogy. But in the case of non profits, aren't we really just concerned with total operating expenses and total revenue generated?
That's the point.
If that revenue was being spent on something worth a crap, then yes, it would matter. Unfortunately, KU's stadium is the worst in the conference and would still be bottom 25% after upgrades.
That's like, your opinion, man. KU has upgraded multiple athletic facilities over the years. AFH is the best place to watch a college basketball game in the world. Once the Rock Chalk Sports Complex is complete next spring, KU will be able to renovate the football stadium.
As for K-State, your athletic department has fewer sports programs than most (if not all) schools in the Big 12. Therefore you have less expenses than most other athletic departments in the conference. Also, I've heard that K-State counts its long-term capital assets towards its current athletic revenue. Most schools count that type of stuff toward their Endowment.
Non-Profit Accounting Basics:
FASB116 stipulates that "unconditional promises to give" are to be recorded at the time the NFP receives notification of the promise. This notification must be in written form, oral promises should not be recorded. FASB defines a condition as a "future and uncertain event" that must occur for the promise to give to become binding.
In many cases, the only notification an NFP receives is when they receive the contribution. In this case it is clear that the entire contribution must be recorded at that time.
However, in other cases the NFP will receive notification of a contribution prior to the actual receipt of the funds. In this case the NFP must determine if they have received an "unconditional promise to give", if so the revenue must be recorded.
If you're including Facilities in "Long Term Capital Assets" . . . upon completion, all facilities projects are transferred to the State of Kansas and are never shown on the books as an Asset of the Athletic Department.
This is why the world has lawyers.
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"Long Term Capital Assets" are only shown on the books as . . . hang on here kids . . . as assets.
They're never shown as revenue.
Kids, just step back because Beems is just flailing.
The facts are the facts, from an operational standpoint, K-State athletics operated well in the black in FY 2012, whereas ku athletics operated nearly $9 million dollars in the red in FY 2012.
Beems . . . you don't have the first clue:
The title rights to buildings and building improvements constructed and financed by K-State
Athletics, Inc. on property owned by the State of Kansas immediately transfer to the State.
Management has chosen not to amortize the improvement costs over the estimated useful life of
the assets as required by accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of
America. The statement of changes in net assets includes $13,974,978.51 and $2,993,286.06 of
transfers to the State of Kansas for capital expenditures related to buildings and building
improvements, for the years ended June 30, 2012 and 2011. The effect on the financial
statements from the departure in prior and current periods cannot be quantified from the
historical financial records.
Confused Beems Said:
Also, I've heard that K-State counts its long-term capital assets towards its current athletic revenue.
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I'd really love to be on a Street Call where a CEO gets on there and tells the Street that his/her company is never actually going to make any money and then follows that statement up with, "and hey, revenue is just an accounting gimmick anyway".
I think he said profits.
Yep and thus I used a bad analogy. But in the case of non profits, aren't we really just concerned with total operating expenses and total revenue generated?
That's the point.
If that revenue was being spent on something worth a crap, then yes, it would matter. Unfortunately, KU's stadium is the worst in the conference and would still be bottom 25% after upgrades.
That's like, your opinion, man. KU has upgraded multiple athletic facilities over the years. AFH is the best place to watch a college basketball game in the world. Once the Rock Chalk Sports Complex is complete next spring, KU will be able to renovate the football stadium.
As for K-State, your athletic department has fewer sports programs than most (if not all) schools in the Big 12. Therefore you have less expenses than most other athletic departments in the conference. Also, I've heard that K-State counts its long-term capital assets towards its current athletic revenue. Most schools count that type of stuff toward their Endowment.
Non-Profit Accounting Basics:
FASB116 stipulates that "unconditional promises to give" are to be recorded at the time the NFP receives notification of the promise. This notification must be in written form, oral promises should not be recorded. FASB defines a condition as a "future and uncertain event" that must occur for the promise to give to become binding.
In many cases, the only notification an NFP receives is when they receive the contribution. In this case it is clear that the entire contribution must be recorded at that time.
However, in other cases the NFP will receive notification of a contribution prior to the actual receipt of the funds. In this case the NFP must determine if they have received an "unconditional promise to give", if so the revenue must be recorded.
If you're including Facilities in "Long Term Capital Assets" . . . upon completion, all facilities projects are transferred to the State of Kansas and are never shown on the books as an Asset of the Athletic Department.
This is why the world has lawyers.
The first part says that you should recognize donations as revenue when either you recieve the cash donation or receive a written committment. As far as I can tell this is what KSU does and I assume KU does the same if they follow FASB/GAAP.
The second part you highlighted has to do with recording the asset on the balance sheet it has nothing to do with revenue recognition or the income statement at all.
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Well Beems "all that research" took about 2 minutes.
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Well Beems "all that research" took about 2 minutes.
And it takes less time than that to realize that different athletic departments utilize different accounting principles and use different accounting gimmicks. Like I've also pointed out, K-State has fewer sports than KU, and therefore less expenses. I guess if KU wanted to cut a bunch of non-revenue sports and announce a bunch of profit, we could do that, but it wouldn't be in the best interest of our student athletes, or our university.
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Story of beems life: :flush:
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Also, I've heard that K-State counts its long-term capital assets towards its current athletic revenue.
Answer me this, economics/financial guru (that can run intellectual circles around everyone else here): How do you count an expenditure (long-term capital assets) as revenue? Translation: How do you count an investment in bricks and mortar as income?
:driving:
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Well Beems "all that research" took about 2 minutes.
And it takes less time than that to realize that different athletic departments utilize different accounting principles and use different accounting gimmicks. Like I've also pointed out, K-State has fewer sports than KU, and therefore less expenses. I guess if KU wanted to cut a bunch of non-revenue sports and announce a bunch of profit, we could do that, but it wouldn't be in the best interest of our student athletes, or our university.
If in accordance with GAAP, it cannot be considered a gimmick. You're like a flailing lib/poor who chastizes the wealthy ( :ksugrad: ) for following the over-complicated tax code to minimize their liability and points a finger while calling it a gaping loophole lubed by greed. In actuality, it's just evidence of finanicial accuity, overall inteligence & logic, and legal consultation.
Now get out of here with this bologna, you poor! :chainsaw:
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Well Beems "all that research" took about 2 minutes.
And it takes less time than that to realize that different athletic departments utilize different accounting principles and use different accounting gimmicks. Like I've also pointed out, K-State has fewer sports than KU, and therefore less expenses. I guess if KU wanted to cut a bunch of non-revenue sports and announce a bunch of profit, we could do that, but it wouldn't be in the best interest of our student athletes, or our university.
Very few people at ku probably pay any attention to soccer, softball or women's swimming. The only reason those sports still exist at ku is because Lew Perkins conned the students into forking over nearly $2 million a year in additional student fees and there's still significant question as to whether ku athletics ever followed through on their end of the deal in terms of providing funds for the student rec center. Just like about a year ago or so ku athletics apparently owed entities like ku parking services significant amounts of money. Maybe Cheyenne Zulu got those bills paid.
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This post didn't get its due:
KU has three Big 12 titles already this year: Men's basketball, indoor track & field, and outdoor track & field. K-State can tie us with three this weekend if the baseball team beats OU. Gotta admit, fellas... it feels good having the best all-around athletes in the Big 12.
:kstategrad:
'grats on winning Women's Track and Field inside and out. That is HUGE.
We'll take two more Big 12 titles to add to our massive collection. It's an embarrassment of riches in Lawrence right now.
http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/state/kansas/study-lawrence-economy-worst-in-nation
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"Long Term Capital Assets" are only shown on the books as . . . hang on here kids . . . as assets.
They're never shown as revenue.
Kids, just step back because Beems is just flailing.
The facts are the facts, from an operational standpoint, K-State athletics operated well in the black in FY 2012, whereas ku athletics operated nearly $9 million dollars in the red in FY 2012.
Beems . . . you don't have the first clue:
The title rights to buildings and building improvements constructed and financed by K-State
Athletics, Inc. on property owned by the State of Kansas immediately transfer to the State.
Management has chosen not to amortize the improvement costs over the estimated useful life of
the assets as required by accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of
America. The statement of changes in net assets includes $13,974,978.51 and $2,993,286.06 of
transfers to the State of Kansas for capital expenditures related to buildings and building
improvements, for the years ended June 30, 2012 and 2011. The effect on the financial
statements from the departure in prior and current periods cannot be quantified from the
historical financial records.
Confused Beems Said:
Also, I've heard that K-State counts its long-term capital assets towards its current athletic revenue.
Well now that I've had a chance to look at the financial reports (the latest I could find for KU was 2011), I can see where the actual differences are. KU transferred roughly $45 million in net assets back to the university in 2011. This transfer is listed as "property and equipment," which I suspect is Allen Fieldhouse and the adjacent facilities that were renovated in 2010. Meanwhile, K-State counts roughly $15 million in non-transferred assets towards its net worth. Like I said all along... accounting gimmicks.
Looking at ticket sales, KU generated roughly $20.85 million in ticket sales, while K-State generated $14.91 million. KU's total athletic revenue was $74.46 million, while K-State's was $63.56 million. That's really pretty incredible considering how terrible KU's football program has been the past few years.
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Well Beems "all that research" took about 2 minutes.
And it takes less time than that to realize that different athletic departments utilize different accounting principles and use different accounting gimmicks. Like I've also pointed out, K-State has fewer sports than KU, and therefore less expenses. I guess if KU wanted to cut a bunch of non-revenue sports and announce a bunch of profit, we could do that, but it wouldn't be in the best interest of our student athletes, or our university.
Very few people at ku probably pay any attention to soccer, softball or women's swimming. The only reason those sports still exist at ku is because Lew Perkins conned the students into forking over nearly $2 million a year in additional student fees and there's still significant question as to whether ku athletics ever followed through on their end of the deal in terms of providing funds for the student rec center. Just like about a year ago or so ku athletics apparently owed entities like ku parking services significant amounts of money. Maybe Cheyenne Zulu got those bills paid.
The Rock Chalk Sports Complex is going to help immensely with the non-revenue sports. Also, those sports are in place to meet title ix requirements.
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Also, I've heard that K-State counts its long-term capital assets towards its current athletic revenue.
Answer me this, economics/financial guru (that can run intellectual circles around everyone else here): How do you count an expenditure (long-term capital assets) as revenue? Translation: How do you count an investment in bricks and mortar as income?
wut
Sounds like you don't know what a long-term capital asset is.
umm I think maybe you need to look up the defintion, he seems to have a pretty good handle on it.
Definition of 'Long-Term Assets'
1. The value of a company's property, equipment and other capital assets, minus depreciation. This is reported on the balance sheet.
2. A stock, bond or other asset that an investor plans to hold for a long period of time.
Since a balance sheet gives an overall status on the financial condition of a business, accountants transfer information on the income statement over to the balance sheet in order to determine equity holdings at different periods throughout the year.
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Well now that I've had a chance to look at the financial reports (the latest I could find for KU was 2011), I can see where the actual differences are. KU transferred roughly $45 million in net assets back to the university in 2011. This transfer is listed as "property and equipment," which I suspect is Allen Fieldhouse and the adjacent facilities that were renovated in 2010. Meanwhile, K-State counts roughly $15 million in non-transferred assets towards its net worth. Like I said all along... accounting gimmicks.
Looking at ticket sales, KU generated roughly $20.85 million in ticket sales, while K-State generated $14.91 million. KU's total athletic revenue was $74.46 million, while K-State's was $63.56 million. That's really pretty incredible considering how terrible KU's football program has been the past few years.
Great talking points, and I'm sure the Jayhawk faithful high-five among themselves with such storied accomplishments. But you don't quite explain how assets are counted as income at K-State. I'm really interested in that.
Of course, you won't explain that, because you can't, you pulled some post out of your ass. We all make mistakes, Beems, and I for one don't fault you for yours. If you can avoid telling us what an intellectual giant you are, maybe you won't be reminded of those posts you pull out of your ass. But, trust me, you are in way over your head here, and you won't recover, whatever laudatory and self-congratulating posts you follow with.
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Well now that I've had a chance to look at the financial reports (the latest I could find for KU was 2011), I can see where the actual differences are. KU transferred roughly $45 million in net assets back to the university in 2011. This transfer is listed as "property and equipment," which I suspect is Allen Fieldhouse and the adjacent facilities that were renovated in 2010. Meanwhile, K-State counts roughly $15 million in non-transferred assets towards its net worth. Like I said all along... accounting gimmicks.
Looking at ticket sales, KU generated roughly $20.85 million in ticket sales, while K-State generated $14.91 million. KU's total athletic revenue was $74.46 million, while K-State's was $63.56 million. That's really pretty incredible considering how terrible KU's football program has been the past few years.
Great talking points, and I'm sure the Jayhawk faithful high-five among themselves with such storied accomplishments. But you don't quite explain how assets are counted as income at K-State. I'm really interested in that.
Of course, you won't explain that, because you can't, you pulled some post out of your ass. We all make mistakes, Beems, and I for one don't fault you for yours. If you can avoid telling us what an intellectual giant you are, maybe you won't be reminded of those posts you pull out of your ass. But, trust me, you are in way over your head here, and you won't recover, whatever laudatory and self-congratulating posts you follow with.
:thumbs:
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Since a balance sheet gives an overall status on the financial condition of a business, accountants transfer information on the income statement over to the balance sheet in order to determine equity holdings at different periods throughout the year.
Does not address what you said. Nice try, though. Maybe an economics grad would buy it.
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Guys, I know I'm a few pages behind with this post, but has the Department of Energy ever done anything? Like name one rough ridin' thing.
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"Long Term Capital Assets" are only shown on the books as . . . hang on here kids . . . as assets.
They're never shown as revenue.
Kids, just step back because Beems is just flailing.
The facts are the facts, from an operational standpoint, K-State athletics operated well in the black in FY 2012, whereas ku athletics operated nearly $9 million dollars in the red in FY 2012.
Beems . . . you don't have the first clue:
The title rights to buildings and building improvements constructed and financed by K-State
Athletics, Inc. on property owned by the State of Kansas immediately transfer to the State.
Management has chosen not to amortize the improvement costs over the estimated useful life of
the assets as required by accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of
America. The statement of changes in net assets includes $13,974,978.51 and $2,993,286.06 of
transfers to the State of Kansas for capital expenditures related to buildings and building
improvements, for the years ended June 30, 2012 and 2011. The effect on the financial
statements from the departure in prior and current periods cannot be quantified from the
historical financial records.
Confused Beems Said:
Also, I've heard that K-State counts its long-term capital assets towards its current athletic revenue.
Well now that I've had a chance to look at the financial reports (the latest I could find for KU was 2011), I can see where the actual differences are. KU transferred roughly $45 million in net assets back to the university in 2011. This transfer is listed as "property and equipment," which I suspect is Allen Fieldhouse and the adjacent facilities that were renovated in 2010. Meanwhile, K-State counts roughly $15 million in non-transferred assets towards its net worth. Like I said all along... accounting gimmicks.
Looking at ticket sales, KU generated roughly $20.85 million in ticket sales, while K-State generated $14.91 million. KU's total athletic revenue was $74.46 million, while K-State's was $63.56 million. That's really pretty incredible considering how terrible KU's football program has been the past few years.
Do you realize assets have nothing to do with income? Also KU has assets on their balance sheet just like KSU does. Only buildings and expansions built on KS property get transferred to the state. In 2012 KU had about $12.5 million in fixed assets on their books and KSU had around $6 million. (The $15 million dollar number you gave was before accumulated depreciation). KU's ticket sales in 2012 were around $18 million and KSU was just shy of $15 million.
So far you have shown zero differences between the way KU and KSU account for anything.
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Since a balance sheet gives an overall status on the financial condition of a business, accountants transfer information on the income statement over to the balance sheet in order to determine equity holdings at different periods throughout the year.
Does not address what you said. Nice try, though. Maybe an economics grad would buy it.
I never claimed anything as fact. Just said that I heard K-State used different accounting methods than KU. I can tell you're butthurt about this because you're starting to make personal attacks and get nasty.
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Also, I know 'Pad loves to talk about long-term debt, so I figured I'd mention that K-State's financial report shows roughly $81.38 million in total long-term debt. KU's is a little over $56 million.
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"Long Term Capital Assets" are only shown on the books as . . . hang on here kids . . . as assets.
They're never shown as revenue.
Kids, just step back because Beems is just flailing.
The facts are the facts, from an operational standpoint, K-State athletics operated well in the black in FY 2012, whereas ku athletics operated nearly $9 million dollars in the red in FY 2012.
Beems . . . you don't have the first clue:
The title rights to buildings and building improvements constructed and financed by K-State
Athletics, Inc. on property owned by the State of Kansas immediately transfer to the State.
Management has chosen not to amortize the improvement costs over the estimated useful life of
the assets as required by accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of
America. The statement of changes in net assets includes $13,974,978.51 and $2,993,286.06 of
transfers to the State of Kansas for capital expenditures related to buildings and building
improvements, for the years ended June 30, 2012 and 2011. The effect on the financial
statements from the departure in prior and current periods cannot be quantified from the
historical financial records.
Confused Beems Said:
Also, I've heard that K-State counts its long-term capital assets towards its current athletic revenue.
Well now that I've had a chance to look at the financial reports (the latest I could find for KU was 2011), I can see where the actual differences are. KU transferred roughly $45 million in net assets back to the university in 2011. This transfer is listed as "property and equipment," which I suspect is Allen Fieldhouse and the adjacent facilities that were renovated in 2010. Meanwhile, K-State counts roughly $15 million in non-transferred assets towards its net worth. Like I said all along... accounting gimmicks.
Looking at ticket sales, KU generated roughly $20.85 million in ticket sales, while K-State generated $14.91 million. KU's total athletic revenue was $74.46 million, while K-State's was $63.56 million. That's really pretty incredible considering how terrible KU's football program has been the past few years.
Do you realize assets have nothing to do with income? Also KU has assets on their balance sheet just like KSU does. Only buildings and expansions built on KS property get transferred to the state. In 2012 KU had about $12.5 million in fixed assets on their books and KSU had around $6 million. (The $15 million dollar number you gave was before accumulated depreciation). KU's ticket sales in 2012 were around $18 million and KSU was just shy of $15 million.
So far you have shown zero differences between the way KU and KSU account for anything.
Cash is an asset, and cash is what sparked this debate about five or six pages ago. As for the differences in how KU and K-State handle their accounting, I've said all along that I think the difference is that KU keeps a lot of its donations in the Williams Fund and Endowment Association, while K-State counts those donations toward athletic revenue and keeps them within the athletic department.
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Beems, why do you seek gE's validation so much? Just curious.
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Since a balance sheet gives an overall status on the financial condition of a business, accountants transfer information on the income statement over to the balance sheet in order to determine equity holdings at different periods throughout the year.
Does not address what you said. Nice try, though. Maybe an economics grad would buy it.
I don't remember anything from econ. Like, nothing. Except I though it was really interesting at the time and there were no hot chicks in any of the classes so I could concentrate instead of deciding which Pi Phi I was going to smash.
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Baylor, Texas Tech, and Iowa State all have worse stadiums than KU at the moment. K-State's was worse until the renovation.
:lol:
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Baylor, Texas Tech, and Iowa State all have worse stadiums than KU at the moment. K-State's was worse until the renovation.
:lol:
yes, great quote lost amidst all of the other "economics" babble.
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"Long Term Capital Assets" are only shown on the books as . . . hang on here kids . . . as assets.
They're never shown as revenue.
Kids, just step back because Beems is just flailing.
The facts are the facts, from an operational standpoint, K-State athletics operated well in the black in FY 2012, whereas ku athletics operated nearly $9 million dollars in the red in FY 2012.
Beems . . . you don't have the first clue:
The title rights to buildings and building improvements constructed and financed by K-State
Athletics, Inc. on property owned by the State of Kansas immediately transfer to the State.
Management has chosen not to amortize the improvement costs over the estimated useful life of
the assets as required by accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of
America. The statement of changes in net assets includes $13,974,978.51 and $2,993,286.06 of
transfers to the State of Kansas for capital expenditures related to buildings and building
improvements, for the years ended June 30, 2012 and 2011. The effect on the financial
statements from the departure in prior and current periods cannot be quantified from the
historical financial records.
Confused Beems Said:
Also, I've heard that K-State counts its long-term capital assets towards its current athletic revenue.
Well now that I've had a chance to look at the financial reports (the latest I could find for KU was 2011), I can see where the actual differences are. KU transferred roughly $45 million in net assets back to the university in 2011. This transfer is listed as "property and equipment," which I suspect is Allen Fieldhouse and the adjacent facilities that were renovated in 2010. Meanwhile, K-State counts roughly $15 million in non-transferred assets towards its net worth. Like I said all along... accounting gimmicks.
Looking at ticket sales, KU generated roughly $20.85 million in ticket sales, while K-State generated $14.91 million. KU's total athletic revenue was $74.46 million, while K-State's was $63.56 million. That's really pretty incredible considering how terrible KU's football program has been the past few years.
Do you realize assets have nothing to do with income? Also KU has assets on their balance sheet just like KSU does. Only buildings and expansions built on KS property get transferred to the state. In 2012 KU had about $12.5 million in fixed assets on their books and KSU had around $6 million. (The $15 million dollar number you gave was before accumulated depreciation). KU's ticket sales in 2012 were around $18 million and KSU was just shy of $15 million.
So far you have shown zero differences between the way KU and KSU account for anything.
Cash is an asset, and cash is what sparked this debate about five or six pages ago. As for the differences in how KU and K-State handle their accounting, I've said all along that I think the difference is that KU keeps a lot of its donations in the Williams Fund and Endowment Association, while K-State counts those donations toward athletic revenue and keeps them within the athletic department.
If you want to talk about cash then KSU had $49 million in cash and cash equivalents at 6/30/12. KU had $4 million in cash and cash equivalents at 6/30/12. KSU generated about $19 million in cash from operations in 2012 where as KU burned through 775K in cash from operations in 2012. Those are all real numbers taken right off the audited cash flow statements of both departments.
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Baylor, Texas Tech, and Iowa State all have worse stadiums than KU at the moment. K-State's was worse until the renovation.
:lol:
yes, great quote lost amidst all of the other "economics" babble.
I don't think he's ever been to another football stadium. :lol:
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Baylor, Texas Tech, and Iowa State all have worse stadiums than KU at the moment. K-State's was worse until the renovation.
:lol:
yes, great quote lost amidst all of the other "economics" babble.
I don't think he's ever been to another football stadium. :lol:
He definitely hasn't.
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Baylor, Texas Tech, and Iowa State all have worse stadiums than KU at the moment. K-State's was worse until the renovation.
:lol:
yes, great quote lost amidst all of the other "economics" babble.
I don't think he's ever been to another football stadium. :lol:
He definitely hasn't.
I'd value his opinion of the top disc golf courses
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Baylor, Texas Tech, and Iowa State all have worse stadiums than KU at the moment. K-State's was worse until the renovation.
:lol:
yes, great quote lost amidst all of the other "economics" babble.
I don't think he's ever been to another football stadium. :lol:
He definitely hasn't.
You're definitely wrong. Baylor's old stadium sucked. Iowa State's is okay, but Memorial is in a better location and has a much bigger pressbox. K-State's was pretty shitty until the recent renovation. Texas Tech's stadium is arguably nicer than KU's, but it's in Lubbock, TX so that devalues it quite a bit in my book.
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i think he's right, guys. ku has AT LEAST the 6th best stadium in the league.
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What a criteria you go by there, beems. Baylors is the worst and you've seen what they got coming, you're next in line in shitiness and I'm sorry, K-State's USE to be a dive, but it is no longer. It's beautiful. Why do you squawks live in the past? I mean I know these are hard times, but woof!
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beems thinks memorial is at least better than "okay".
:lol:
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celebrate hard times, come on!
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Texas Tech's stadium is actually pretty nice, Beems. It is much nicer than KU's and was also much nicer than K-State's before the renovation. This is assuming there isn't a sandstorm during the game, of course.
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Texas Tech's stadium being in Lubbock has nothing to do with how nice it is. JFC.
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In terms of the stadium itself, KU's is far and away the worst in the Big 12. Claiming otherwise is hurting your other arguments in this thread, Beems.
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This is how KU fans view Memorial Stadium:
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This is how K-State fans view Memorial Stadium:
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all those pictures look the exact same
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This is how KU fans view Memorial Stadium:
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This is how K-State fans view Memorial Stadium:
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FYP
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Non-Profit Accounting Basics:
FASB116 stipulates that "unconditional promises to give" are to be recorded at the time the NFP receives notification of the promise. This notification must be in written form, oral promises should not be recorded. FASB defines a condition as a "future and uncertain event" that must occur for the promise to give to become binding.
In many cases, the only notification an NFP receives is when they receive the contribution. In this case it is clear that the entire contribution must be recorded at that time.
However, in other cases the NFP will receive notification of a contribution prior to the actual receipt of the funds. In this case the NFP must determine if they have received an "unconditional promise to give", if so the revenue must be recorded.
If you're including Facilities in "Long Term Capital Assets" . . . upon completion, all facilities projects are transferred to the State of Kansas and are never shown on the books as an Asset of the Athletic Department.
i know some of these words
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"Long Term Capital Assets" are only shown on the books as . . . hang on here kids . . . as assets.
They're never shown as revenue.
Kids, just step back because Beems is just flailing.
The facts are the facts, from an operational standpoint, K-State athletics operated well in the black in FY 2012, whereas ku athletics operated nearly $9 million dollars in the red in FY 2012.
Beems . . . you don't have the first clue:
The title rights to buildings and building improvements constructed and financed by K-State
Athletics, Inc. on property owned by the State of Kansas immediately transfer to the State.
Management has chosen not to amortize the improvement costs over the estimated useful life of
the assets as required by accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of
America. The statement of changes in net assets includes $13,974,978.51 and $2,993,286.06 of
transfers to the State of Kansas for capital expenditures related to buildings and building
improvements, for the years ended June 30, 2012 and 2011. The effect on the financial
statements from the departure in prior and current periods cannot be quantified from the
historical financial records.
Confused Beems Said:
Also, I've heard that K-State counts its long-term capital assets towards its current athletic revenue.
Well now that I've had a chance to look at the financial reports (the latest I could find for KU was 2011), I can see where the actual differences are. KU transferred roughly $45 million in net assets back to the university in 2011. This transfer is listed as "property and equipment," which I suspect is Allen Fieldhouse and the adjacent facilities that were renovated in 2010. Meanwhile, K-State counts roughly $15 million in non-transferred assets towards its net worth. Like I said all along... accounting gimmicks.
Looking at ticket sales, KU generated roughly $20.85 million in ticket sales, while K-State generated $14.91 million. KU's total athletic revenue was $74.46 million, while K-State's was $63.56 million. That's really pretty incredible considering how terrible KU's football program has been the past few years.
Do you realize assets have nothing to do with income? Also KU has assets on their balance sheet just like KSU does. Only buildings and expansions built on KS property get transferred to the state. In 2012 KU had about $12.5 million in fixed assets on their books and KSU had around $6 million. (The $15 million dollar number you gave was before accumulated depreciation). KU's ticket sales in 2012 were around $18 million and KSU was just shy of $15 million.
So far you have shown zero differences between the way KU and KSU account for anything.
Cash is an asset, and cash is what sparked this debate about five or six pages ago. As for the differences in how KU and K-State handle their accounting, I've said all along that I think the difference is that KU keeps a lot of its donations in the Williams Fund and Endowment Association, while K-State counts those donations toward athletic revenue and keeps them within the athletic department.
I just thumbed through ku's report. They have funds in the endowment but the athletic department recognizes a receivable from the endowment as an asset. The Williams fund as far as I can tell is part of the ad and any contribution to the fund would be contribution revenue to the ad. Any contributions that were later moved into the endowment would also be recognized as revenue when it was received by the ad. I've spent a few minutes looking at this stuff and come to the conclusion there are no material differences in the way ku and ksu account for revenues or assets.
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Why anyone cares about this stuff is beyond me.
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Why anyone cares about this stuff is beyond me.
BECAUSE BEEMS IS WRONG [redacted] :curse:
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This is how KU fans view Memorial Stadium:
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This is how K-State fans view Memorial Stadium:
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Whoever took those first 2 used the wrong lens.
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This is how KU fans view Memorial Stadium:
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This is how K-State fans view Memorial Stadium:
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lololol that should end the thread right there, KU fans perceive memorial as a painting and kstate fans view it as what it is
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http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/62044/ranking-the-big-12-facilities-by-team
Kansas' facilities are nice, and like I said above, it's not all that far behind No. 4 Texas Tech, but the stadium is holding KU back.
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You can see the north, east, and west sides of the stadium in this pic and nothing about it says elite on-campus location.
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Whoever took those first 2 used the wrong lens.
and forgot to draw stink lines.
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The 3 peat is really killing you right now isn't it ben
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I like the Ku fans view the stadium as a finger painting talking point
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Since there is a lot of banter that may have overshadowed the important part of this entire thread... http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1145292-power-ranking-all-124-college-football-stadiums/page/94
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Since there is a lot of banter that may have overshadowed the important part of this entire thread... http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1145292-power-ranking-all-124-college-football-stadiums/page/94
That list has Clemson as #1. :fatty:
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Also, I know 'Pad loves to talk about long-term debt, so I figured I'd mention that K-State's financial report shows roughly $81.38 million in total long-term debt. KU's is a little over $56 million.
I've recognized that a long time ago and it really speaks volumes. ku athletics for the past few years could not get anymore state backed bonds. It's one of the reasons why Cheyenne Zulu had to go borrow $39 million dollars from the ku endowment, and it's one of the primary reasons why the Gridiron Club didn't get built. K-State got the bonding because a huge portion of of the facilities being built were actually revenue generating buildings. Almost the entirety of the WSC generates revenue. Lew was using bond money to build fancy new offices for himself and hang artwork on the wall, very little of the bonds ku floated went to any net new structure that actually generates revenue. AFH would generate revenue even if the paint was peeling off the walls.
Plus, I am sure you only looked at the Long Term Bond debt, has ku paid the $6 million dollar loan they took from an individual for the new football building, and like I said, ku just added another $39 million dollars in debt.
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Also, I know 'Pad loves to talk about long-term debt, so I figured I'd mention that K-State's financial report shows roughly $81.38 million in total long-term debt. KU's is a little over $56 million.
I've recognized that a long time ago and it really speaks volumes. ku athletics for the past few years could not get anymore state backed bonds. It's one of the reasons why Cheyenne Zulu had to go borrow $39 million dollars from the ku endowment, and it's one of the primary reasons why the Gridiron Club didn't get built. K-State got the bonding because a huge portion of of the facilities being built were actually revenue generating buildings. Almost the entirety of the WSC generates revenue. Lew was using bond money to build fancy new offices for himself and hang artwork on the wall, very little of the bonds ku floated went to any net new structure that actually generates revenue. AFH would generate revenue even if the paint was peeling off the walls.
Plus, I am sure you only looked at the Long Term Bond debt, has ku paid the $6 million dollar loan they took from an individual for the new football building, and like I said, ku just added another $39 million dollars in debt.
KSU has $49 million in cash and KU has $4 million in cash. K- state is generating operating profits and cash flow and ku is incurring losses and burning cash. So yes ksu has more debt but is in a substantially better position to cover their debt it's not even close.
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Also, I know 'Pad loves to talk about long-term debt, so I figured I'd mention that K-State's financial report shows roughly $81.38 million in total long-term debt. KU's is a little over $56 million.
I've recognized that a long time ago and it really speaks volumes. ku athletics for the past few years could not get anymore state backed bonds. It's one of the reasons why Cheyenne Zulu had to go borrow $39 million dollars from the ku endowment, and it's one of the primary reasons why the Gridiron Club didn't get built. K-State got the bonding because a huge portion of of the facilities being built were actually revenue generating buildings. Almost the entirety of the WSC generates revenue. Lew was using bond money to build fancy new offices for himself and hang artwork on the wall, very little of the bonds ku floated went to any net new structure that actually generates revenue. AFH would generate revenue even if the paint was peeling off the walls.
Plus, I am sure you only looked at the Long Term Bond debt, has ku paid the $6 million dollar loan they took from an individual for the new football building, and like I said, ku just added another $39 million dollars in debt.
KSU has $49 million in cash and KU has $4 million in cash. K- state is generating operating profits and cash flow and ku is incurring losses and burning cash. So yes ksu has more debt but is in a substantially better position to cover their debt it's not even close.
BOOM FINANCED
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You know you're absolutely clowning someone when your cash position is better than your competitions LT debt position. I bet KState's DSCR is like 10x and kus is less than 1.
Basicly kstate is an AAA credit and Ku is junk bond to near default status.
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You know you're absolutely clowning someone when your cash position is better than your competitions LT debt position. I bet KState's DSCR is like 10x and kus is less than 1.
Basicly kstate is an AAA credit and Ku is junk bond to near default status.
BOOM BOND SMACK
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Since there is a lot of banter that may have overshadowed the important part of this entire thread... http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1145292-power-ranking-all-124-college-football-stadiums/page/94
Do they have valet boat docking at JT?
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It's smart people in threads like this that make me proud to be a goEMAW.com registered <premium> member.
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KU approaching credit leper status.
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The corner lights are awful. The tarp on the fence to keep the poors from watching for free is awful. The penis up on the hill is awful. The press box on stilts is awful.
KU should prob build a really cheap statue of a lone orange to spice it up a bit.
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SUPER BOND BOND, SUPER BOND BOND
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The corner lights are awful. The tarp on the fence to keep the poors from watching for free is awful. The penis up on the hill is awful. The press box on stilts is awful.
KU should prob build a really cheap statue of a lone orange to spice it up a bit.
lol that half the people at any given game aren't watching for free
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The corner lights are awful. The tarp on the fence to keep the poors from watching for free is awful. The penis up on the hill is awful. The press box on stilts is awful.
KU should prob build a really cheap statue of a lone orange to spice it up a bit.
lol that half the people at any given game aren't watching for free
Yeah, Taco Johns
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Serious question and prob luked...
Who has a better football stadium KU or Wichita State?
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Serious question and prob luked...
Who has a better football stadium KU or Wichita State?
Wichita State. Shockers also have a better football team.
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Since there is a lot of banter that may have overshadowed the important part of this entire thread... http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1145292-power-ranking-all-124-college-football-stadiums/page/94
It has already been posted, HaverLuke.
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Serious question and prob luked...
Who has a better football stadium KU or Wichita State?
I think Wichita State actually has some parking lots nearby where people are able to tailgate.
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I watched my brother at the state track meet in Cessna stadium. Can confirm the atmosphere, on campus setting and facilities are much better than in memorial poors stadium. Also, Wichita >>>>>> lawrence-topeka metroplex
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Does Wichita State melt your face with ACDC blasting from amps on their track?
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For the poorest, least successful school in the Big 12, you guys sure know how to act tough. I can't even imagine how you poor hayseeds would act if you had the all_time series in football, or a program that had actually won a national championship (aside from soil judging of course.) I guess when you've never won anything at the national level, sharing a few co-championships in a dying Big 12 conference is as good as it gets.
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Some just couldn't understand what it's like.
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Blasting jock jams and doing the farm hump just screams "elite." I bet it gets real rowdy when the Harleys roll by on that asphalt track.
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all_time series
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Serious question and prob luked...
Who has a better football stadium KU or Wichita State?
Having been to both, both are dilapidated has-been dumpster-fire trash heaps, but KU's is many times worse given that a sport featuring an oblong ball still is played within the decaying confines of it.
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Does Wichita State melt your face with ACDC blasting from amps on their track?
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I did see a similar setup at the Phi Dealt house we parked by though. I think they were having a rush party. But no, Cessna stadium is way above that.
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Blasting jock jams and doing the farm hump just screams "elite." I bet it gets real rowdy when the Harleys roll by on that asphalt track.
WTW!!!
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Did Manhattan throw a parade to celebrate the Big 12 baseball title? If so, thoughts and prayers to all the farm animals that were raped in the process.
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Does anyone have a finger painting of Cessna stadium? Would be useful in this discussion.
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Did Manhattan throw a parade to celebrate the Big 12 baseball title? If so, thoughts and prayers to all the farm animals that were raped in the process.
Yikes! Jayhawks are rough ridin' pissed about #titletown
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Hey Oregon Hawk, KState is 150 years old this year. How old is Ku?
PWN3D
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I watched my brother at the state track meet in Cessna stadium. Can confirm the atmosphere, on campus setting and facilities are much better than in memorial poors stadium. Also, Wichita >>>>>> lawrence-topeka metroplex
Been to high school football games at Cessna with more atmosphere than a ku game, so I think your point is valid.
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Did Manhattan throw a parade to celebrate the Big 12 baseball title? If so, thoughts and prayers to all the farm animals that were raped in the process.
Let me know what Lawrence's Big 12 baseball title celebrations look like. We will compare/contrast
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Did Manhattan throw a parade to celebrate the Big 12 baseball title? If so, thoughts and prayers to all the farm animals that were raped in the process.
Let me know what Lawrence's Big 12 baseball title celebrations look like. We will compare/contrast
I like to compare apples to apples.
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Wearing purple, doing the farm hump, and dubbing a school that's never won a national championship in its history as "titletown".... that's our K-State. Bust on the jock jams and get your farm hump on!
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Wearing purple, doing the farm hump, and dubbing a school that's never won a national championship in its history as "titletown".... that's our K-State. Bust on the jock jams and get your farm hump on!
This is some real anger here. Visceral and pained.
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KU - 3 Big 12 titles this year (2 outright) = just another season in the books
KSU - 3 Big 12 titles this year (1 outright) = parades and farm humps
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Wearing purple, doing the farm hump, and dubbing a school that's never won a national championship in its history as "titletown".... that's our K-State. Bust on the jock jams and get your farm hump on!
I sense one of those BMW meltdowns coming on.
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This Beems sock is genius. Having the sock randomly throw out jock jams for no reason to talk smack while KU blast thunderstruck at every BB game. :lol:
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This Beems sock is genius. Having the sock randomly throw out jock jams for no reason to talk smack while KU blast thunderstruck at every BB game. :lol:
I liked the claiming 2 lady track titles.
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Who cares if we don't have a national championship?
We can still have fun and celebrate good times. Why don't you want us to be happy?
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This Beems sock is genius. Having the sock randomly throw out jock jams for no reason to talk smack while KU blast thunderstruck at every BB game. :lol:
I liked the claiming 2 lady track titles.
Two lady track titles > Football. At least in the Big 12 (a lady track title conference).
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Everybody knows when coach Redwine leaves their program will go right back in the crapper.
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This Beems sock is genius. Having the sock randomly throw out jock jams for no reason to talk smack while KU blast thunderstruck at every BB game. :lol:
I liked the claiming 2 lady track titles.
Two lady track titles > Football. At least in the Big 12 (a lady track title conference).
Big 10 is salivating
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Wearing purple, doing the farm hump, and dubbing a school that's never won a national championship in its history as "titletown".... that's our K-State. Bust on the jock jams and get your farm hump on!
3MAW really took a toll on beems :love:
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it's not your fault beems
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KU - 3 Big 12 titles this year (2 outright) = just another season in the books
KSU - 3 Big 12 titles this year (1 outright) = parades and farm humps
You can keep your lady's track title :gocho:
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much like football success the Beems freakout-meltdown-self imposed break-reemergence is cyclical
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Didnt Memorial Stadium have recliners behind the endzone at one point? :facepalm:
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Sharing a few co-championships in a dying Big 12 conference is as good as it gets.
Why didn't you do it then? :dunno:
Btw, financially the Big XII is in the best place it has ever been. But you guys can move onto the MWC, maybe you can win a conference championship in something other than men's basketball
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Sharing a few co-championships in a dying Big 12 conference is as good as it gets.
Why didn't you do it then? :dunno:
Btw, financially the Big XII is in the best place it has ever been. But you guys can move onto the MWC, maybe you can win a conference championship in something other than men's basketball
They'd be overwhelmed in football and baseball in the Mountain
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Sharing a few co-championships in a dying Big 12 conference is as good as it gets.
Why didn't you do it then? :dunno:
Btw, financially the Big XII is in the best place it has ever been. But you guys can move onto the MWC, maybe you can win a conference championship in something other than men's basketball
Well I hate to break it to you kid, but KU has multiple Big 12 titles this year in other sports. Plus we're probably going to join the Big 10 in the next round of realignment, so good luck with the shitty Big 12 and winning co-championships in a league no one cares about.
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If you count the Big 12 tourney title in which KU shamed Weber and KSUck, that would give us 4 Big 12 titles this year (almost half as many as KSUck has all-time).
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I like how Ben calls us poor yet we are the 2nd most profitable AD in the Big 12 behind Texas and KU is running a deficit. Makes total sense.
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Sharing a few co-championships in a dying Big 12 conference is as good as it gets.
Why didn't you do it then? :dunno:
Btw, financially the Big XII is in the best place it has ever been. But you guys can move onto the MWC, maybe you can win a conference championship in something other than men's basketball
Well I hate to break it to you kid, but KU has multiple Big 12 titles this year in other sports. Plus we're probably going to join the Big 10 in the next round of realignment, so good luck with the shitty Big 12 and winning co-championships in a league no one cares about.
The big 10 wanting KU :lol:
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I like how Ben calls us poor yet we are the 2nd most profitable AD in the Big 12 behind Texas and KU is running a deficit. Makes total sense.
KSUck has the fewest sports programs in the Big 12 and therefore has less expenses than every other program. KU shames KSUck in ticket sales and total revenue. Plus our endowment is about a billion more than KSUck. KSUck also has over $81 million in long-term debt. KU isn't running a deficit, either, by the way.
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I like how Ben calls us poor yet we are the 2nd most profitable AD in the Big 12 behind Texas and KU is running a deficit. Makes total sense.
KSUck has the fewest sports programs in the Big 12 and therefore has less expenses than every other program. KU shames KSUck in ticket sales and total revenue. Plus our endowment is about a billion more than KSUck. KSUck also has over $81 million in long-term debt. KU isn't running a deficit, either, by the way.
Beems is so butthurt that he is beginning to call us "KSUck".
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I love listening to KU bring up their 2 women's track titles. Trying to claim two basketball titles in the same season is my second favorite.
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Less sports equals more money spent in fewer areas Beems- financially smart, and if I was a KU fan and Manhattan officially became TITLETOWN I would probably want to leave the conference to avoid playing 3MAW too. And Congrats on the women's track title- too bad the men's sports couldn't step up and help your basketball team hang with the big boys :ksu:
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I love listening to KU bring up their 2 women's track titles. Trying to claim two basketball titles in the same season is my second favorite.
And that our football title was shared despite winning in Norman, but their basketball title wasn't shared.
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If KUs season was so great why is Ben so mad?
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Oh boy beems is talking revenues again, pull up a chair and take out your notepads.
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FY 2012 ku athletics annual financial report:
Consolidated Statement of Activities Year Ended 6/30/2012
Total Revenue, Gains and Other Support 70,908,096 (781,120) 366,722 70,493,698
Total Expenses and Losses 79,371,604
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Total Debt for ku athletics year ending Fiscal Year 2012: $49,647,634
New debt to be added in all probability: $39 Million (Rock Chalk Park).
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Great meltdown Ben, see you in 2 months.
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I love listening to KU bring up their 2 women's track titles. Trying to claim two basketball titles in the same season is my second favorite.
I love the two basketball titles in one year talking point. I'm willing to bet a very large amount of money that they won't say Missouri won a basketball title in 2011-12 to break KU's basketball title streak.
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Their football team hasn't won a conference game in over 2 years, their donors refuse to give money to renovate the worst stadium in the conference, and they're severely in debt. It's probably time to get these guys out of the conference.
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Why did he call us KSUck? :frown:
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Why did he call us KSUck? :frown:
Because it has been confirmed that KSU is the big brother institution. Beems is not coping well- all they have is women's track and basketball, then they put down kansas farmers while they wave the wheat at sporting events- apparently ku fans don't use or eat agricultural products, just a strict diet of penis.
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KU has multiple Big 12 titles this year in other sports
Yeah but I'm talking about sports that actually matter
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I like how Ben calls us poor yet we are the 2nd most profitable AD in the Big 12 behind Texas and KU is running a deficit. Makes total sense.
KSUck has the fewest sports programs in the Big 12 and therefore has less expenses than every other program. KU shames KSUck in ticket sales and total revenue. Plus our endowment is about a billion more than KSUck. KSUck also has over $81 million in long-term debt. KU isn't running a deficit, either, by the way.
How can you say that ku isn't running a deficit when the financial statements clearly show that they ran a deficit last year? It's a fact they had a loss in both book earnings and had negative operating cash flow. Kstate produced $19 million in operating cash flow. But of course I'm sure that $20 million difference in operating cash is just a function of ku having a whopping 2 more varsity sports programs then kstate does.
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KU has multiple Big 12 titles this year in other sports
Yeah but I'm talking about sports that actually matter
Winning Big 12 titles doesn't matter to anyone outside the Big 12. K-State fans over hype it because your shitty program never wins anything on a national level. Your football team got blown out by Oregon, and your basketball team lost in the 1st round to LaSalle. Your program is a joke and couldn't be a worse representative for the Big 12.
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I guess you just have to experience a Triple Crown to understand.
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I guess you just have to experience a Triple Crown to understand.
I don't think I fully appreciate it yet. It may take years to comprehend such a monumental achievement.
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KU has multiple Big 12 titles this year in other sports
Yeah but I'm talking about sports that actually matter
Winning Big 12 titles doesn't matter to anyone outside the Big 12. K-State fans over hype it because your shitty program never wins anything on a national level. Your football team got blown out by Oregon, and your basketball team lost in the 1st round to LaSalle. Your program is a joke and couldn't be a worse representative for the Big 12.
Wow, is something else going on here beems? You are not taking this well at all.
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KU has multiple Big 12 titles this year in other sports
Yeah but I'm talking about sports that actually matter
Winning Big 12 titles doesn't matter to anyone outside the Big 12. K-State fans over hype it because your shitty program never wins anything on a national level. Your football team got blown out by Oregon, and your basketball team lost in the 1st round to LaSalle. Your program is a joke and couldn't be a worse representative for the Big 12.
Your football team has managed to beat McNeese State, South Dakota State and Northern Illinois the last two seasons. That's it. Go have a beer.
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Oh man, Beems is really melting down!
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Oh man, Beems is really melting down!
Yeah just doesn't make sense
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KU has multiple Big 12 titles this year in other sports
Yeah but I'm talking about sports that actually matter
Winning Big 12 titles doesn't matter to anyone outside the Big 12. K-State fans over hype it because your shitty program never wins anything on a national level. Your football team got blown out by Oregon, and your basketball team lost in the 1st round to LaSalle. Your program is a joke and couldn't be a worse representative for the Big 12.
It's crap like this that makes zero sense. Have you seen your football team?
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Sharing a few co-championships in a dying Big 12 conference is as good as it gets.
Why didn't you do it then? :dunno:
Btw, financially the Big XII is in the best place it has ever been. But you guys can move onto the MWC, maybe you can win a conference championship in something other than men's basketball
Well I hate to break it to you kid, but KU has multiple Big 12 titles this year in other sports. Plus we're probably going to join the Big 10 in the next round of realignment, so good luck with the shitty Big 12 and winning co-championships in a league no one cares about.
wow
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When your football program has lost 28 of its last 34 conference games and hasn't won a conference championship in #45 years you've got denigrate the accomplishments of others as much as you can.
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beems, it's not your fault
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Did Manhattan throw a parade to celebrate the Big 12 baseball title? If so, thoughts and prayers to all the farm animals that were raped in the process.
Wow, beams! You're better than this. Don't let the phoget talking points rub off on you.
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Why is he so mad? :dunno:
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Why is he so mad? :dunno:
All the media will talk about is Title town USA Manhattan, KS. He hates all the attention we're getting.
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The reason I'm so defensive is because you guys can't enjoy K-State's success without throwing KU under the bus in the process. There's always a hint of KU hatred any time K-State wins something. Look no further than this thread. K-State upgrades BSFS, so naturally you guys have to bash Memorial Stadium. There's a natural tendency for K-State fans to compare themselves with KU at all times. That same dynamic isn't reciprocated by KU fans. In fact, a lot of KU fans were rooting for K-State when you guys were in the middle of a title run in football. I congratulated K-State fans several days ago on the triple crown accomplishment, and no one even acknowledged it. The truth is that both KU and K-State have had a lot of success this year in various sports, but for whatever reason, k-State fans are incapable of accepting that. The easy explanation is inferiority complex, but I think there's more to it than that. It's like grapes don't think K-State can succeed if KU does well too.
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The reason I'm so defensive is because you guys can't enjoy K-State's success without throwing KU under the bus in the process. There's always a hint of KU hatred any time K-State wins something. Look no further than this thread. K-State upgrades BSFS, so naturally you guys have to bash Memorial Stadium. There's a natural tendency for K-State fans to compare themselves with KU at all times. That same dynamic isn't reciprocated by KU fans. In fact, a lot of KU fans were rooting for K-State when you guys were in the middle of a title run in football. I congratulated K-State fans several days ago on the triple crown accomplishment, and no one even acknowledged it. The truth is that both KU and K-State have had a lot of success this year in various sports, but for whatever reason, k-State fans are incapable of accepting that. The easy explanation is inferiority complex, but I think there's more to it than that. It's like grapes don't think K-State can succeed if KU does well too.
God you're a 14 year old girl aren't you?
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The reason I'm so defensive is because you guys can't enjoy K-State's success without throwing KU under the bus in the process. There's always a hint of KU hatred any time K-State wins something. Look no further than this thread. K-State upgrades BSFS, so naturally you guys have to bash Memorial Stadium. There's a natural tendency for K-State fans to compare themselves with KU at all times. That same dynamic isn't reciprocated by KU fans. In fact, a lot of KU fans were rooting for K-State when you guys were in the middle of a title run in football. I congratulated K-State fans several days ago on the triple crown accomplishment, and no one even acknowledged it. The truth is that both KU and K-State have had a lot of success this year in various sports, but for whatever reason, k-State fans are incapable of accepting that. The easy explanation is inferiority complex, but I think there's more to it than that. It's like grapes don't think K-State can succeed if KU does well too.
Indeed.
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Ben should have gotten a psychology degree instead of an economics degree.
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LOL, he's racked up 1000's of posts on this board with around 75% to 80% of them being how K-State isn't worthy, and yet we're the one's with the inferiority complex?
Come on Beems.
You bring nearly every phognet talking point that tosses K-State under the bus to this board, and yet you claim you're just pissed off because we throw ku under the bus.
You're just mad because ku football has been in shambles, and all the claims you made about how K-State couldn't compete financially and how Lew is "building a monster" have backfired on you.
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Lew built a women's track and field monster from the sound of things.
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LOL, he's racked up 1000's of posts on this board with around 75% to 80% of them being how K-State isn't worthy, and yet we're the one's with the inferiority complex?
Come on Beems.
You bring nearly every phognet talking point that tosses K-State under the bus to this board, and yet you claim you're just pissed off because we throw ku under the bus.
You're just mad because ku football has been in shambles, and all the claims you made about how K-State couldn't compete financially and how Lew is "building a monster" have backfired on you.
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KU has multiple Big 12 titles this year in other sports
Yeah but I'm talking about sports that actually matter
Winning Big 12 titles doesn't matter to anyone outside the Big 12. K-State fans over hype it because your shitty program never wins anything on a national level. Your football team got blown out by Oregon, and your basketball team lost in the 1st round to LaSalle. Your program is a joke and couldn't be a worse representative for the Big 12.
KSU's participation in the Fiesta Bowl netted the Big12 approximately $18MM.
KU's BB team will net the Big12 an estimated $4.63MM over the next 6 years. The kicker is what the FB team cost the Big12. Mid-major teams play BCS conference teams and it's expected that the BCS conference teams beat them. It's expected of them so that those mid-majors don't have enough wins to crash the BCS. The KU FB team didn't do it's part against Northern Illinois, allowing them to take OU's spot on the BCS. That cost the Big12 $6.2MM in additional bowl payout.
KSU's impact on Big12 post-season revenue: $18.25MM
KU's impact on Big12 post-season revenue: $1.57MM
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KU has multiple Big 12 titles this year in other sports
Yeah but I'm talking about sports that actually matter
Winning Big 12 titles doesn't matter to anyone outside the Big 12. K-State fans over hype it because your shitty program never wins anything on a national level. Your football team got blown out by Oregon, and your basketball team lost in the 1st round to LaSalle. Your program is a joke and couldn't be a worse representative for the Big 12.
KSU's participation in the Fiesta Bowl netted the Big12 approximately $18MM.
KU's BB team will net the Big12 an estimated $4.63MM over the next 6 years. The kicker is what the FB team cost the Big12. Mid-major teams play BCS conference teams and it's expected that the BCS conference teams beat them. It's expected of them so that those mid-majors don't have enough wins to crash the BCS. The KU FB team didn't do it's part against Northern Illinois, allowing them to take OU's spot on the BCS. That cost the Big12 $6.2MM in additional bowl payout.
KSU's impact on Big12 post-season revenue: $18.25MM
KU's impact on Big12 post-season revenue: $1.57MM
Come on man
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KU has multiple Big 12 titles this year in other sports
Yeah but I'm talking about sports that actually matter
Winning Big 12 titles doesn't matter to anyone outside the Big 12. K-State fans over hype it because your shitty program never wins anything on a national level. Your football team got blown out by Oregon, and your basketball team lost in the 1st round to LaSalle. Your program is a joke and couldn't be a worse representative for the Big 12.
KSU's participation in the Fiesta Bowl netted the Big12 approximately $18MM.
KU's BB team will net the Big12 an estimated $4.63MM over the next 6 years. The kicker is what the FB team cost the Big12. Mid-major teams play BCS conference teams and it's expected that the BCS conference teams beat them. It's expected of them so that those mid-majors don't have enough wins to crash the BCS. The KU FB team didn't do it's part against Northern Illinois, allowing them to take OU's spot on the BCS. That cost the Big12 $6.2MM in additional bowl payout.
KSU's impact on Big12 post-season revenue: $18.25MM
KU's impact on Big12 post-season revenue: $1.57MM
:shakesfist:
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Seems like you had yourself a nice little Sunday, Beems.
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Seems like you had yourself a nice little Sunday, Beems.
:popcorn:
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KU has multiple Big 12 titles this year in other sports
Yeah but I'm talking about sports that actually matter
Winning Big 12 titles doesn't matter to anyone outside the Big 12. K-State fans over hype it because your shitty program never wins anything on a national level. Your football team got blown out by Oregon, and your basketball team lost in the 1st round to LaSalle. Your program is a joke and couldn't be a worse representative for the Big 12.
So all of yours are irrelevant too? :confused: I hope I never hear this talking point from you again.
On a national level, Kansas just doesn't get it done when it comes to postseason achievements.
I'd say more people remember Kansas for their embarrassing first round exits to nobodies, than the national title and final fours.
Meanwhile: Duke and Kentucky are known for winning championships.
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Beems, everything alright at home?
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KU has multiple Big 12 titles this year in other sports
Yeah but I'm talking about sports that actually matter
Winning Big 12 titles doesn't matter to anyone outside the Big 12. K-State fans over hype it because your shitty program never wins anything on a national level. Your football team got blown out by Oregon, and your basketball team lost in the 1st round to LaSalle. Your program is a joke and couldn't be a worse representative for the Big 12.
So all of yours are irrelevant too? :confused: I hope I never hear this talking point from you again.
On a national level, Kansas just doesn't get it done when it comes to postseason achievements.
I'd say more people remember Kansas for their embarrassing first round exits to nobodies, than the national title and final fours.
Meanwhile: Duke and Kentucky are known for winning championships.
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Guys, add beems to your prayers tonight before you head to bed. I think he's "taking" again. :frown:
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Kstate fans typically know exactly who they are and where they stand. KU fans tend to way over value their importance and place in the pecking order. They are an elite program in the second most popular sport. This is great for most ku fans who only cafe about bball but it's not good for the football program or the fans who care about it. UNC, Duke, Indiana, Kentucky, Kansas etc it doesn't matter who you are talking about they all suck in football and probably always well other then the odd year. It's pretty obvious when football is the second most popular sport it's tough to have sustained success. Its also obvious football is gaining in popularity and importance and college bball is losing popularity and importance.
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When they go back to letting HS players go to NBA, college basketball is in even more trouble.
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Kstate fans typically know exactly who they are and where they stand. KU fans tend to way over value their importance and place in the pecking order. They are an elite program in the second most popular sport. This is great for most ku fans who only cafe about bball but it's not good for the football program or the fans who care about it. UNC, Duke, Indiana, Kentucky, Kansas etc it doesn't matter who you are talking about they all suck in football and probably always well other then the odd year. It's pretty obvious when football is the second most popular sport it's tough to have sustained success. Its also obvious football is gaining in popularity and importance and college bball is losing popularity and importance.
:barf:
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KU has multiple Big 12 titles this year in other sports
Yeah but I'm talking about sports that actually matter
Winning Big 12 titles doesn't matter to anyone outside the Big 12. K-State fans over hype it because your shitty program never wins anything on a national level. Your football team got blown out by Oregon, and your basketball team lost in the 1st round to LaSalle. Your program is a joke and couldn't be a worse representative for the Big 12.
KSU's participation in the Fiesta Bowl netted the Big12 approximately $18MM.
KU's BB team will net the Big12 an estimated $4.63MM over the next 6 years. The kicker is what the FB team cost the Big12. Mid-major teams play BCS conference teams and it's expected that the BCS conference teams beat them. It's expected of them so that those mid-majors don't have enough wins to crash the BCS. The KU FB team didn't do it's part against Northern Illinois, allowing them to take OU's spot on the BCS. That cost the Big12 $6.2MM in additional bowl payout.
KSU's impact on Big12 post-season revenue: $18.25MM
KU's impact on Big12 post-season revenue: $1.57MM
This is getting brutal.
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Guys, I want to add something here as well. I have some good KU friends who actually are coherent and understand this amazing milestone that we've achieved. Heck, the girl I'm seeing is a squawk and she felt bad I was spending time with her this weekend instead of witnessing history. Her direct quote: "Man, you make me feel special, if KU was good at anything else other than ball, I would make sure to be there to witness it". I guess what I'm saying is, don't let beems and this LJ hawk guy change your thoughts on the KU fanbase. They're not all psychotic like these two, they're are actually realist out of the bunch. For our :tsc: bros out there who actually get it, without psychotic, irrational outbursts, thank you, and best of luck next year. :cheers:
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Wow, 3MAW is really cutting Beems deep!
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Guys, I want to add something here as well. I have some good KU friends who actually are coherent and understand this amazing milestone that we've achieved. Heck, the girl I'm seeing is a squawk and she felt bad I was spending time with her this weekend instead of witnessing history. Her direct quote: "Man, you make me feel special, if KU was good at anything else other than ball, I would make sure to be there to witness it". I guess what I'm saying is, don't let beems and this LJ hawk guy change your thoughts on the KU fanbase. They're not all psychotic like these two, they're are actually realist out of the bunch. For our :tsc: bros out there who actually get it, without psychotic, irrational outbursts, thank you, and best of luck next year. :cheers:
South Dakota is going down! :thumbsup:
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South Dakota losing to the Hawks? Possible, yes. Probable? Don't know, but I do know that a KU football win against any non-conference opponent is not a given. Sad, perhaps, but true.
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Purple hugs, bro.
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Really enjoyed reading the last 4 pages. Good job everyone :emawkid:
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South Dakota losing to the Hawks? Possible, yes. Probable? Don't know, but I do know that a KU football win against any non-conference opponent is not a given. Sad, perhaps, but true.
I don't think Coach Weis has ever lost to an FCS opponent, bones129. The Hawks will obliterate South Dakota by at least 20. Mark it down.
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Guys, I want to add something here as well. I have some good KU friends who actually are coherent and understand this amazing milestone that we've achieved. Heck, the girl I'm seeing is a squawk and she felt bad I was spending time with her this weekend instead of witnessing history. Her direct quote: "Man, you make me feel special, if KU was good at anything else other than ball, I would make sure to be there to witness it". I guess what I'm saying is, don't let beems and this LJ hawk guy change your thoughts on the KU fanbase. They're not all psychotic like these two, they're are actually realist out of the bunch. For our :tsc: bros out there who actually get it, without psychotic, irrational outbursts, thank you, and best of luck next year. :cheers:
Does not match my experience. All the ku fans around me are working overtime to downplay the significance of the 'Cats pulling down the triple crown of league title in the major men's sports. I'm been hearing all-time series smack, AAU smack, basically the whole inventory of phog.net talking points.
Beems actually acknowledges, from time to time, the importance of some of K-State's achievements. I respect that, just like I respect the genuine achievements of various teams in ku athletics. In real life, among themselves, ku fans do whatever they can to make the winning trend in Manhattan as somehow bad or negative.
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Guys, I want to add something here as well. I have some good KU friends who actually are coherent and understand this amazing milestone that we've achieved. Heck, the girl I'm seeing is a squawk and she felt bad I was spending time with her this weekend instead of witnessing history. Her direct quote: "Man, you make me feel special, if KU was good at anything else other than ball, I would make sure to be there to witness it". I guess what I'm saying is, don't let beems and this LJ hawk guy change your thoughts on the KU fanbase. They're not all psychotic like these two, they're are actually realist out of the bunch. For our :tsc: bros out there who actually get it, without psychotic, irrational outbursts, thank you, and best of luck next year. :cheers:
Does not match my experience. All the ku fans around me are working overtime to downplay the significance of the 'Cats pulling down the triple crown of league title in the major men's sports. I'm been hearing all-time series smack, AAU smack, basically the whole inventory of phog.net talking points.
Beems actually acknowledges, from time to time, the importance of some of K-State's achievements. I respect that, just like I respect the genuine achievements of various teams in ku athletics. In real life, among themselves, ku fans do whatever they can to make the winning trend in Manhattan as somehow bad or negative.
I don't know any ku fans stupid enough to bring up all time series smack in the face of our Triple. That's just a white flag.
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the guy who mows my yard is a huge ku fan that grew up in tonganoxie. on saturday, he wanted to bet me money that kstate couldn't repeat the trifecta again next year.
my neighbor is a michigan grad and huge college sports fan. we both just laughed at the guy and said "of course kstate can't do it again next year. pulling off the trifecta is the single greatest accomplishment in all of college sports and to expect a school to do it two years in a row is just insane".
i mean lol though, right? that would be like asking the person who just won the 600 million dollar if they'd like to go double or nothing on the next day's lottery. just absurd. even after all these years though, it's still amazing how clueless ku fans get once you get them off the topic of basketball. oh well.
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Guys, you would meltdown too if it was always cold and and rainy and there were nothing but ugly people around you.
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the guy who mows my yard is a huge ku fan that grew up in tonganoxie. on saturday, he wanted to bet me money that kstate couldn't repeat the trifecta again next year.
my neighbor is a michigan grad and huge college sports fan. we both just laughed at the guy and said "of course kstate can't do it again next year. pulling off the trifecta is the single greatest accomplishment in all of college sports and to expect a school to do it two years in a row is just insane".
i mean lol though, right? that would be like asking the person who just won the 600 million dollar if they'd like to go double or nothing on the next day's lottery. just absurd. even after all these years though, it's still amazing how clueless ku fans get once you get them off the topic of basketball. oh well.
Wow, great story Daris. I can't tell you how many times I've had these types of conversations with the KU fan that delivers our mail in the office. I just dread Monday mornings when he comes into my office to drop off my paycheck for this very reason. Just brutal.
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What Beems should have said:
Wow! What a year for you guys! Congratulations! :tsc: KU has had a good year as well. Besides sharing the Big 12 Confy Basketball title with our bros to the west, we also won two Big 12 Titles in Women's track, but that isn't quite the same. :D I am happy for you! :tsc:
What Beems said:
The Big 12 Sucks. Big 12 titles suck. You guys are shitty.
WHAT ABOUT 8 STRAIGHT?!?!?!?! I still think that is pretty awesome, but evidently Beems doesn't. :cry:
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It's nine straight, actually, and four Big 12 titles in '13. Just another season in the books for big bro.
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:lol:
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If you offered me all 9 of those bball titles for just 1 football title, I would say no way, Jose.
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I would tend to agree. College football is at least 10 times the importance of men's basketball. Baseball is probably 1000 times more important than women's track.
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I would tend to agree. College football is at least 10 times the importance of men's basketball. Baseball is probably 1000 times more important than women's track.
The women's track titles is just such an unexpected treat. The first time I heard a KU fan drop that in the face of our Football/Basketball/Baseball I smiled like this... :D
I knew some good times were ahead. CELEBRATE!
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It's literally one of the funniest things I've ever heard.
As the Athletics Flagship University of the state of Kansas and of the Big XII Conference, we can just kick our feet up and laugh at these things together.
Great feeling. :dance:
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Pretty amazing that a standard year for KU athletics would be the best year in K-State athletics history. It's actually kind of sad when you really stop and think about it.
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Pretty amazing that a standard year for KU athletics would be the best year in K-State athletics history. It's actually kind of sad when you really stop and think about it.
:D
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On the raw EADA report there's a line item in the summary for Total Revenues by Team minus Total Expenses by team. These number don't include "unallocated by sport" revenues and expenses.
For FY ending 6/30/2012 the combined operational income of every sport at ku was -$16.999 million. With the male sports posting a -$5.227 million
For K-State the combined operations of every sport before non allocated revenues was $6.938 million with men's sports on the plus side by $14.752 million.
There was over a $20 million dollar differential in net athletic department operating revenue in FY 2012 between ku and K-State.
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Pretty amazing that a standard year for KU athletics would be the best year in K-State athletics history. It's actually kind of sad when you really stop and think about it.
I know you don't believe two basketball and two women's track titles is > a football basketball and baseball titles. And if you do you need to be locked in the looney bin.
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would you rather watch your college play in a memorial stadium or at the Blue Valley District Athletic Center
memorial stadium for me. i think. but then again, no track around the DAC i don't think. still probably memorial stadium.
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Pretty amazing that a standard year for KU athletics would be the best year in K-State athletics history. It's actually kind of sad when you really stop and think about it.
If you really feel that way, then stop being so mean and celebrate with us! :excited:
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Pretty amazing that a standard year for KU athletics would be the best year in K-State athletics history. It's actually kind of sad when you really stop and think about it.
A standard year for KU is winning the Big 12 in football, basketball, and baseball??
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It's nine straight, actually, and four Big 12 titles in '13. Just another season in the books for big bro.
Is this counting the Facebook/twitter titles or no?
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I didn't realize that Mizzou actually won a Big 12 basketball title the year before they left. I thought it was just a tourney trophy. But BMW seems to think otherwise.
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I will admit to sometimes enjoying women's track, but it has nothing to do with sports.
Didn't know the entire sqwawk nation was that pervy.
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I would tend to agree. College football is at least 10 times the importance of men's basketball. Baseball is probably 1000 times more important than women's track.
I just checked "these" stats. They ARE accurate.
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Pretty amazing that a standard year for KU athletics would be the best year in K-State athletics history. It's actually kind of sad when you really stop and think about it.
20/25 in baseball
15/19 in football
What do you call that?
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Beems Beems Beems.........
It is going to be tough for you to watch our Football and Baseball dominance continue over the next few years.
I know I am real tough on oscar Weber but I would rather watch our Missouri Valley Basketball than the Pee Wee league crap that Charlie Weiss will continue to put on the field. They should really rename Memorial Stadium as it is a big disservice for America's vets to be associated with Hawk Football.
Snyder looking at 2 trophies in a row and Baseball isn't even done with this year.
Beems get professional help.... drugs and alcohol aren't the answer. :billdance:
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jfc, phog.net has to be the most hate-filled place on the net, look at what it's done to beems. Calm down beems, many of us like you :frown:
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jfc, phog.net has to be the most hate-filled place on the net, look at what it's done to beems. Calm down beems, many of us like you :frown:
Feel bad for em
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Yeah beems, sports are fun and entertaining, not angry and depressing.
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Yeah beems, sports are fun and entertaining, not angry and depressing.
:thumbs:
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In a few years when football falls off and becomes a hobby sport and basketball becomes the premiere sport in America, a lot of you dorks are going to feel pretty silly.
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In a few years when football falls off and becomes a hobby sport and basketball becomes the premiere sport in America, a lot of you dorks are going to feel pretty silly.
then basketball will fall off and it will just be 24/7 womens track (indoor and outdoor).
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In a few years when football falls off and becomes a hobby sport and basketball becomes the premiere sport in America, a lot of you dorks are going to feel pretty silly.
then basketball will fall off and it will just be 24/7 womens track (indoor and outdoor).
this situation probably ranks higher than gameday trees on K-State's list of nightmare situations.
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I think what this really means is that John Currie needs to run out and take out a $39 million dollar loan, then enter into a 50 year lease with a 3rd party (30 year payments of about $1.3 million, then FMV for the next 20) for a new outdoor track. Allow that 3rd party to control nearly all revenue producing aspects of the facility, and also allow that 3rd party to use that facility for any event that they wish as long as it doesn't conflict with a K-State event. Then add the cherry on top by agreeing to an extremely nebulous "escrow account" with the 3rd party which will place as yet undefined profits "aside" for future maintenance.
I think that's pretty much what needs to happen given that track and field is going to dominate the college sports landscape in the future.
That requires a pretty optimistic revenue outlook for an outdoor track, unless it could be configured as an outdoor concert venue or something like that.
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I need Currie to get serious about lady's indoor track, that is for damn sure.
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I need Currie to get serious about lady's indoor track, that is for damn sure.
we have a ways to go to catch up to the hawks. i was at the state meet this morning to watch my nephew run in the 4X100m prelims(he's the anchor :grin:) and noticed a TON of KU gear around the shot put ring when the 2A girls were tossing the ball around. being dominant in lady track requires a grassroots effort and we all need to get our asses involved. go cats.
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http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/town_talk/2013/jun/21/city-hall-targets-property-on-memorial-s/
that ought to up the beauty factor a bit. best setting in college football, now with smog and authentic diesel smell.
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http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/town_talk/2013/jun/21/city-hall-targets-property-on-memorial-s/
that ought to up the beauty factor a bit. best setting in college football, now with smog and authentic diesel smell.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fworldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com%2Fimg%2Fblogs%2Fheader_img%2F2013%2FJan%2F10%2Ftown_talk_hdr_t640.jpg&hash=ff4c442faab2873d3639ede7c3ddfb7162728e92)
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http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/town_talk/2013/jun/21/city-hall-targets-property-on-memorial-s/
that ought to up the beauty factor a bit. best setting in college football, now with smog and authentic diesel smell.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fworldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com%2Fimg%2Fblogs%2Fheader_img%2F2013%2FJan%2F10%2Ftown_talk_hdr_t640.jpg&hash=ff4c442faab2873d3639ede7c3ddfb7162728e92)
Man are Manhattanites bus noobs. Hybrid buses are the way of the future! :gocho:
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http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/town_talk/2013/jun/21/city-hall-targets-property-on-memorial-s/
that ought to up the beauty factor a bit. best setting in college football, now with smog and authentic diesel smell.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fworldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com%2Fimg%2Fblogs%2Fheader_img%2F2013%2FJan%2F10%2Ftown_talk_hdr_t640.jpg&hash=ff4c442faab2873d3639ede7c3ddfb7162728e92)
Man are Manhattanites bus noobs. Hybrid buses are the way of the future! :gocho:
YEAH, EXCEPT YOU GUYS PROBABLY ONLY HAVE THOSE BECAUSE THEY STILL KEEP WORKING WHEN THEY ARE UNDERWATER!!! BECAUSE YOU GUYS GET FLOODED LIKE, ALL THE TIME!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm sorry Haverhill, but you have to admit, you walked right into that one.
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http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/town_talk/2013/jun/21/city-hall-targets-property-on-memorial-s/
that ought to up the beauty factor a bit. best setting in college football, now with smog and authentic diesel smell.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fworldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com%2Fimg%2Fblogs%2Fheader_img%2F2013%2FJan%2F10%2Ftown_talk_hdr_t640.jpg&hash=ff4c442faab2873d3639ede7c3ddfb7162728e92)
Man are Manhattanites bus noobs. Hybrid buses are the way of the future! :gocho:
Bus smack! :D
Also, is LJ World giving preferential hiring to the developmentally disabled? Chad looks challenged.
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http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/town_talk/2013/jun/21/city-hall-targets-property-on-memorial-s/
that ought to up the beauty factor a bit. best setting in college football, now with smog and authentic diesel smell.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fworldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com%2Fimg%2Fblogs%2Fheader_img%2F2013%2FJan%2F10%2Ftown_talk_hdr_t640.jpg&hash=ff4c442faab2873d3639ede7c3ddfb7162728e92)
Man are Manhattanites bus noobs. Hybrid buses are the way of the future! :gocho:
Bus smack! :D
Also, is LJ World giving preferential hiring to the developmentally disabled? Chad looks challenged.
I like how he kept that pencil tucked behind his ear for that photo.
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Buses are for poors. Manhattan has very few poors. Do not want.
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Last time I was at memorial stadium, the smell of suck was still present in the stadium that not many people came to the graduation ceremony I was attending at KU. Guys, little bro is bringing down the big 12. :runaway:
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I think what this really means is that John Currie needs to run out and take out a $39 million dollar loan, then enter into a 50 year lease with a 3rd party (30 year payments of about $1.3 million, then FMV for the next 20) for a new outdoor track. Allow that 3rd party to control nearly all revenue producing aspects of the facility, and also allow that 3rd party to use that facility for any event that they wish as long as it doesn't conflict with a K-State event. Then add the cherry on top by agreeing to an extremely nebulous "escrow account" with the 3rd party which will place as yet undefined profits "aside" for future maintenance.
I think that's pretty much what needs to happen given that track and field is going to dominate the college sports landscape in the future.
Locking in at $1.3 million over the course of 30 years saves KU millions of dollars (present value vs. future value, inflation rate savings). Also, the university doesn't have to change any bylaws by leasing the complex to a private corporation. Alcohol sales and concert events will all be within code, and also, the complex is going to have a public recreational facility, as well as multiple other sports facilities. It's not just for the track & field programs.
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so the city of Lawrence is sharing their park with ku track and field?
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so the city of Lawrence is sharing their park with ku track and field?
Google is your friend.
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I think what this really means is that John Currie needs to run out and take out a $39 million dollar loan, then enter into a 50 year lease with a 3rd party (30 year payments of about $1.3 million, then FMV for the next 20) for a new outdoor track. Allow that 3rd party to control nearly all revenue producing aspects of the facility, and also allow that 3rd party to use that facility for any event that they wish as long as it doesn't conflict with a K-State event. Then add the cherry on top by agreeing to an extremely nebulous "escrow account" with the 3rd party which will place as yet undefined profits "aside" for future maintenance.
I think that's pretty much what needs to happen given that track and field is going to dominate the college sports landscape in the future.
Locking in at $1.3 million over the course of 30 years saves KU millions of dollars (present value vs. future value, inflation rate savings). Also, the university doesn't have to change any bylaws by leasing the complex to a private corporation. Alcohol sales and concert events will all be within code, and also, the complex is going to have a public recreational facility, as well as multiple other sports facilities. It's not just for the track & field programs.
Interest outpaces deflation savings by far.
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I think what this really means is that John Currie needs to run out and take out a $39 million dollar loan, then enter into a 50 year lease with a 3rd party (30 year payments of about $1.3 million, then FMV for the next 20) for a new outdoor track. Allow that 3rd party to control nearly all revenue producing aspects of the facility, and also allow that 3rd party to use that facility for any event that they wish as long as it doesn't conflict with a K-State event. Then add the cherry on top by agreeing to an extremely nebulous "escrow account" with the 3rd party which will place as yet undefined profits "aside" for future maintenance.
I think that's pretty much what needs to happen given that track and field is going to dominate the college sports landscape in the future.
Locking in at $1.3 million over the course of 30 years saves KU millions of dollars (present value vs. future value, inflation rate savings). Also, the university doesn't have to change any bylaws by leasing the complex to a private corporation. Alcohol sales and concert events will all be within code, and also, the complex is going to have a public recreational facility, as well as multiple other sports facilities. It's not just for the track & field programs.
I see the potential coolness for the average Lawrencitian (?), but I would think for the university it would be embarrassing that they have to share the facility because they can't have one for themselves. Could you imagine having the city rec basketball league at AFH?
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The Developer controls all non ku sporting events, and can use any facility there when they're not being used by ku athletics for whatever they want to do.
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I think what this really means is that John Currie needs to run out and take out a $39 million dollar loan, then enter into a 50 year lease with a 3rd party (30 year payments of about $1.3 million, then FMV for the next 20) for a new outdoor track. Allow that 3rd party to control nearly all revenue producing aspects of the facility, and also allow that 3rd party to use that facility for any event that they wish as long as it doesn't conflict with a K-State event. Then add the cherry on top by agreeing to an extremely nebulous "escrow account" with the 3rd party which will place as yet undefined profits "aside" for future maintenance.
I think that's pretty much what needs to happen given that track and field is going to dominate the college sports landscape in the future.
Locking in at $1.3 million over the course of 30 years saves KU millions of dollars (present value vs. future value, inflation rate savings). Also, the university doesn't have to change any bylaws by leasing the complex to a private corporation. Alcohol sales and concert events will all be within code, and also, the complex is going to have a public recreational facility, as well as multiple other sports facilities. It's not just for the track & field programs.
This isn't how it's going down at all. The City of Lawrence is leasing their new rec facility from the developer, this is enabling the developer to cut KU a sweet deal on the softball/track/soccer facility. The indoor rec facility has nothing to do with KU atletics. I do believe other entities will have occasional access to KU facilities when not used by KU. KU is not leasing anything to anyone, the new KU facilities are being subsidized by the new rec center.
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So what's the phog forecast on when shovels hit the ground? Did I see November' 14?
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So what's the phog forecast on when shovels hit the ground? Did I see November' 14?
there are foundations and concrete walls in place for the stadium already.
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so the city of Lawrence is sharing their park with ku track and field?
I just googled it and it sounds like this is pretty much the case.
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so the city of Lawrence is sharing their park with ku track and field?
I just googled it and it sounds like this is pretty much the case.
So like the track will go around the jungle gyms and slides?
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so the city of Lawrence is sharing their park with ku track and field?
I just googled it and it sounds like this is pretty much the case.
http://www.ci.lawrence.ks.us/assets/lprd/20130617_Rec_Center_Update.pdf (http://www.ci.lawrence.ks.us/assets/lprd/20130617_Rec_Center_Update.pdf)
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so the city of Lawrence is sharing their park with ku track and field?
I just googled it and it sounds like this is pretty much the case.
http://www.ci.lawrence.ks.us/assets/lprd/20130617_Rec_Center_Update.pdf (http://www.ci.lawrence.ks.us/assets/lprd/20130617_Rec_Center_Update.pdf)
that looks better than anything in mancrappin
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so the city of Lawrence is sharing their park with ku track and field?
I just googled it and it sounds like this is pretty much the case.
http://www.ci.lawrence.ks.us/assets/lprd/20130617_Rec_Center_Update.pdf (http://www.ci.lawrence.ks.us/assets/lprd/20130617_Rec_Center_Update.pdf)
that looks better than anything in mancrappin
mancrappin
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so the city of Lawrence is sharing their park with ku track and field?
I just googled it and it sounds like this is pretty much the case.
http://www.ci.lawrence.ks.us/assets/lprd/20130617_Rec_Center_Update.pdf (http://www.ci.lawrence.ks.us/assets/lprd/20130617_Rec_Center_Update.pdf)
that looks better than anything in mancrappin
lol maybe manhattan high school.
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so the city of Lawrence is sharing their park with ku track and field?
I just googled it and it sounds like this is pretty much the case.
http://www.ci.lawrence.ks.us/assets/lprd/20130617_Rec_Center_Update.pdf (http://www.ci.lawrence.ks.us/assets/lprd/20130617_Rec_Center_Update.pdf)
that looks better than anything in mancrappin
It's pretty much the same size as K-State's entire campus.
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so the city of Lawrence is sharing their park with ku track and field?
I just googled it and it sounds like this is pretty much the case.
http://www.ci.lawrence.ks.us/assets/lprd/20130617_Rec_Center_Update.pdf (http://www.ci.lawrence.ks.us/assets/lprd/20130617_Rec_Center_Update.pdf)
that looks better than anything in mancrappin
i guess you really really like concrete and CMU block.
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Is this thing just for ladies' track or will other genders/sports be able to use it too?
it's for other genders as well and it will be where the kansas relays will be held as well. the whole reason for building this new track facility is so that they can now move on to improvements to the football stadium. Our AD said that nothing would be done to Memorial Stadium until the track department had a place, now they do.
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Is this thing just for ladies' track or will other genders/sports be able to use it too?
it's for other genders as well and it will be where the kansas relays will be held as well. the whole reason for building this new track facility is so that they can now move on to improvements to the football stadium. Our AD said that nothing would be done to Memorial Stadium until the track department had a place, now they do.
Go for it man. History awaits.
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Is this thing just for ladies' track or will other genders/sports be able to use it too?
it's for other genders as well and it will be where the kansas relays will be held as well. the whole reason for building this new track facility is so that they can now move on to improvements to the football stadium. Our AD said that nothing would be done to Memorial Stadium until the track department had a place, now they do.
Go for it man. History awaits.
The track program just won a national championship this year, so I'd say history is off to a pretty good start.
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Is this thing just for ladies' track or will other genders/sports be able to use it too?
it's for other genders as well and it will be where the kansas relays will be held as well. the whole reason for building this new track facility is so that they can now move on to improvements to the football stadium. Our AD said that nothing would be done to Memorial Stadium until the track department had a place, now they do.
Go for it man. History awaits.
The track program just won a national championship this year, so I'd say history is off to a pretty good start.
Track crap talking on a football board is why Beems is BITB IMO.
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Hey guys "Rock Chalk Park" has been talked about now for well over a decade. It was going to be built on campus. But Cheyenne Zulu looked at the bank accounts: Total Revenues from all sports before non sport specific revenues were in the dumps by millions in FY 2012. Total Operational Revenue was nearly $9 million in the red for FY 2012. Unrestricted funds on account was in the hole to the tune of -$4.5 million in FY 2012. The BOR weren't going to sign off any more state backed (Kansas Development Finance Authority) borrowing for facilities that didn't produce revenue.
There was simply no way Cheyenne Zulu could afford to build Rock Chalk Park on campus. So he gobbled together a deal with some developers, entered into a 50 year lease for some land way off campus, and went and borrowed $40 million bucks from the ku academic scholarship fund.
Pretty creative, but it has to be a cool hard slap in the financial reality face for those touting the, "Lew is Building a monster and K-State is in shambles" spiel a few years ago.
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Is this thing just for ladies' track or will other genders/sports be able to use it too?
it's for other genders as well and it will be where the kansas relays will be held as well. the whole reason for building this new track facility is so that they can now move on to improvements to the football stadium. Our AD said that nothing would be done to Memorial Stadium until the track department had a place, now they do.
is there anything else we need to know about as well?
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other genders
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Hey guys "Rock Chalk Park" has been talked about now for well over a decade. It was going to be built on campus. But Cheyenne Zulu looked at the bank accounts: Total Revenues from all sports before non sport specific revenues were in the dumps by millions in FY 2012. Total Operational Revenue was nearly $9 million in the red for FY 2012. Unrestricted funds on account was in the hole to the tune of -$4.5 million in FY 2012. The BOR weren't going to sign off any more state backed (Kansas Development Finance Authority) borrowing for facilities that didn't produce revenue.
There was simply no way Cheyenne Zulu could afford to build Rock Chalk Park on campus. So he gobbled together a deal with some developers, entered into a 50 year lease for some land way off campus, and went and borrowed $40 million bucks from the ku academic scholarship fund.
Pretty creative, but it has to be a cool hard slap in the financial reality face for those touting the, "Lew is Building a monster and K-State is in shambles" spiel a few years ago.
:sdeek:
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Hey guys "Rock Chalk Park" has been talked about now for well over a decade. It was going to be built on campus. But Cheyenne Zulu looked at the bank accounts: Total Revenues from all sports before non sport specific revenues were in the dumps by millions in FY 2012. Total Operational Revenue was nearly $9 million in the red for FY 2012. Unrestricted funds on account was in the hole to the tune of -$4.5 million in FY 2012. The BOR weren't going to sign off any more state backed (Kansas Development Finance Authority) borrowing for facilities that didn't produce revenue.
There was simply no way Cheyenne Zulu could afford to build Rock Chalk Park on campus. So he gobbled together a deal with some developers, entered into a 50 year lease for some land way off campus, and went and borrowed $40 million bucks from the ku academic scholarship fund.
Pretty creative, but it has to be a cool hard slap in the financial reality face for those touting the, "Lew is Building a monster and K-State is in shambles" spiel a few years ago.
As usual, 'Pad takes the most butthurt, anti-KU approach possible. Here's the truth:
http://www.kuathletics.com/genrel/041613aaa.html (http://www.kuathletics.com/genrel/041613aaa.html)
Construction plans call for a track and field stadium with approximately 7,000 permanent seats and room for some 3,000 temporary seats, a softball stadium for more than 1,500 spectators, and a 2,500-seat soccer stadium. Zenger said two different independent studies showed that Kansas Athletics would likely have had to spend in excess of $50 million to build these facilities. Under the partnership of Thomas and Dru Fritzel and Bliss Sports, however, Kansas Athletics will be able to build them for $39 million, spread out over 30 years.
The complex will be near the intersection of 6th Street and George Williams Way, just east of K-10. Kansas Athletics now begins construction, along with the KU Endowment Association and Bliss Sports, and plans to have the new facilities ready for the 2014 Kansas Relays. An official opening date for Kansas soccer and softball has not been announced.
While giving due credit to each of the three programs for their successes with sub-par facilities, Zenger made it clear that his vision - and the vision of all involved in the project - was not only to build a facility that could compete with fellow Big 12 Conference schools, but to be even better. He also reminded those in attendance that nearly 75 percent of Rock Chalk Park's inhabitants will be female student-athletes as men's track and field will be the only male team housed at the facility.
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/apr/16/ku-officials-break-ground-rock-chalk-park-set-goal/ (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/apr/16/ku-officials-break-ground-rock-chalk-park-set-goal/)
The Rock Chalk project — which KU officials have said would cost KU about $40 million to build, but is being constructed and financed by Fritzel and leased back to the university — will include several components:
• a 7,336-seat track and field stadium designed to receive the highest Class I certification from track and field’s international governing body;
• a 2,156-seat soccer field;
• a 1,037-seat softball stadium that also will include a 12,715-square-foot indoor softball training facility;
• about 4,500 square feet of locker room space for the facilities, plus concession stands and other guest amenities.
• about 1,500 paved parking spaces, with a large grassy area to accommodate overflow parking.
Zenger said KU officials will use the facility — particularly the track and field stadium that is expected to become just the fifth U.S. track to meet the top international standard — to host both conference and national events.
“We’re going to try to host any championship that comes our way,” Zenger said, “and that means all the way up to the NCAA Championships.”
Stanley Redwine, head coach of KU’s track and field and cross country teams, said he expects the new facility to be a regular host of the Big 12 Track and Field Championships and to receive strong consideration for national-level youth championships for events sanctioned by USA Track & Field.
“I believe Lawrence could be really huge with track and field,” Redwine said. “There already is an interest here, and now we’ll have the facilities.”
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Wait, so KU commissioned a masterplan for the track facility. Yet, they don't have a masterplan for Memorial? :facepalm:
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Wait, so KU commissioned a masterplan for the track facility. Yet, they don't have a masterplan for Memorial? :facepalm:
Where did you get the idea that KU doesn't have a masterplan for Memorial?
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Wait, so KU commissioned a masterplan for the track facility. Yet, they don't have a masterplan for Memorial? :facepalm:
Where did you get the idea that KU doesn't have a masterplan for Memorial?
#burnitdown
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“I believe Lawrence could be really huge with track and field,” Redwine said. “There already is an interest here, and now we’ll have the facilities.”
Man im not trying to get into anything with you here ben but if i was a ku fan i would be pissed about the athletic department at my school's priorities. An open letter telling them to stop worrying about hobby sports and start worrying about the only sport that can get you guys back in the black would be my starting point
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Wait, so KU commissioned a masterplan for the track facility. Yet, they don't have a masterplan for Memorial? :facepalm:
Where did you get the idea that KU doesn't have a masterplan for Memorial?
Because they just selected an architecture firm to create the masterplan. like, last week.
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“I believe Lawrence could be really huge with track and field,” Redwine said. “There already is an interest here, and now we’ll have the facilities.”
Man im not trying to get into anything with you here ben but if i was a ku fan i would be pissed about the athletic department at my school's priorities. An open letter telling them to stop worrying about hobby sports and start worrying about the only sport that can get you guys back in the black would be my starting point
In order for KU to upgrade Memorial, they have to remove the track. What don't you understand about that?
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“I believe Lawrence could be really huge with track and field,” Redwine said. “There already is an interest here, and now we’ll have the facilities.”
Man im not trying to get into anything with you here ben but if i was a ku fan i would be pissed about the athletic department at my school's priorities. An open letter telling them to stop worrying about hobby sports and start worrying about the only sport that can get you guys back in the black would be my starting point
In order for KU to upgrade Memorial, they have to remove the track. What don't you understand about that?
Go ahead and do it and quit talking about it sheesh.
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“I believe Lawrence could be really huge with track and field,” Redwine said. “There already is an interest here, and now we’ll have the facilities.”
Man im not trying to get into anything with you here ben but if i was a ku fan i would be pissed about the athletic department at my school's priorities. An open letter telling them to stop worrying about hobby sports and start worrying about the only sport that can get you guys back in the black would be my starting point
In order for KU to upgrade Memorial, they have to remove the track. What don't you understand about that?
The fact that there is no master plan on what to do after the track is removed is what is sad/hilarious.
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“I believe Lawrence could be really huge with track and field,” Redwine said. “There already is an interest here, and now we’ll have the facilities.”
Man im not trying to get into anything with you here ben but if i was a ku fan i would be pissed about the athletic department at my school's priorities. An open letter telling them to stop worrying about hobby sports and start worrying about the only sport that can get you guys back in the black would be my starting point
In order for KU to upgrade Memorial, they have to remove the track. What don't you understand about that?
The fact that there is no master plan on what to do after the track is removed is what is sad/hilarious.
There's a master plan in the works right now.
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There's a master plan in the works right now.
Yep. Been in the works for about a week. And when it's done, you guys can start raising some money!
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“I believe Lawrence could be really huge with track and field,” Redwine said. “There already is an interest here, and now we’ll have the facilities.”
Man im not trying to get into anything with you here ben but if i was a ku fan i would be pissed about the athletic department at my school's priorities. An open letter telling them to stop worrying about hobby sports and start worrying about the only sport that can get you guys back in the black would be my starting point
In order for KU to upgrade Memorial, they have to remove the track. What don't you understand about that?
They track has to be removed in order for you to upgrade the skeleton? What about the bathrooms? That was my point
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“I believe Lawrence could be really huge with track and field,” Redwine said. “There already is an interest here, and now we’ll have the facilities.”
Man im not trying to get into anything with you here ben but if i was a ku fan i would be pissed about the athletic department at my school's priorities. An open letter telling them to stop worrying about hobby sports and start worrying about the only sport that can get you guys back in the black would be my starting point
In order for KU to upgrade Memorial, they have to remove the track. What don't you understand about that?
The fact that there is no master plan on what to do after the track is removed is what is sad/hilarious.
There's a master plan in the works right now.
Good lord, you guys are terrible at scheming. No wonders your university cannot find a coach worth anything.
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“I believe Lawrence could be really huge with track and field,” Redwine said. “There already is an interest here, and now we’ll have the facilities.”
Man im not trying to get into anything with you here ben but if i was a ku fan i would be pissed about the athletic department at my school's priorities. An open letter telling them to stop worrying about hobby sports and start worrying about the only sport that can get you guys back in the black would be my starting point
In order for KU to upgrade Memorial, they have to remove the track. What don't you understand about that?
The fact that there is no master plan on what to do after the track is removed is what is sad/hilarious.
There's a master plan in the works right now.
Good lord, you guys are terrible at scheming. No wonders your university cannot find a coach worth anything.
honest question here, who does the Kstate faithful think will replace Snyder? is there someone on the staff now or do you think they will look outside of the team?
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K-State has had one good coach in the entire history of its football program. Boy, you guys really got us there.
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K-State has had one good coach in the entire history of its football program. Boy, you guys really got us there.
Meanwhile, KU just lights up the history books with their football coaching tree
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K-State has had one good coach in the entire history of its football program. Boy, you guys really got us there.
Thanks :dunno:
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"There's a master plan in the works right now"
:love: :love: :love:
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K-State has had one good coach in the entire history of its football program. Boy, you guys really got us there.
EMAW: KU track has a MP before KU football?
EMAJ: Where did you get the idea that KU doesn't have a masterplan for Memorial?
EMAW: They just selected an architect.
EMAJ: There's a master plan in the works right now.
EMAW: Oh.
EMAJ: KSU has a really good coach, but he won't coach forever.
EMAW: Thanks?
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honest question here, who does the Kstate faithful think will replace Snyder? is there someone on the staff now or do you think they will look outside of the team?
Already addressed, see avatar :gocho:
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honest question here, who does the Kstate faithful think will replace Snyder? is there someone on the staff now or do you think they will look outside of the team?
Already addressed, see avatar :gocho:
who is that? I'm guessing assistant coach or defense coach?
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honest question here, who does the Kstate faithful think will replace Snyder? is there someone on the staff now or do you think they will look outside of the team?
Already addressed, see avatar :gocho:
who is that? I'm guessing assistant coach or defense coach?
:facepalm:
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honest question here, who does the Kstate faithful think will replace Snyder? is there someone on the staff now or do you think they will look outside of the team?
Already addressed, see avatar :gocho:
who is that? I'm guessing assistant coach or defense coach?
:facepalm:
why would I know who that was? I'm not a ksu fan
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honest question here, who does the Kstate faithful think will replace Snyder? is there someone on the staff now or do you think they will look outside of the team?
Already addressed, see avatar :gocho:
who is that? I'm guessing assistant coach or defense coach?
WHO IS THAT?
:dubious:
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honest question here, who does the Kstate faithful think will replace Snyder? is there someone on the staff now or do you think they will look outside of the team?
Already addressed, see avatar :gocho:
who is that? I'm guessing assistant coach or defense coach?
:facepalm:
why would I know who that was? I'm not a ksu fan
Good grief, tim. Go study up. He hasn't been associated with K-State football for about a decade and a half so you can't use that as an excuse.
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The only part I didn't get right was borrowing from the ku foundation (I guess someone realized that would have likely been the largest loan ever given by an academic/research oriented university based foundation to an athletic department).
Other than that, the original plan was for the "Rock Chalk Park" to be built next to AFH. The plan has been on the table for years, the lease is for 50 years (30 years @ $1.3 million, then 20 years at FMV).
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Has K-State ever been compelled to let a private entity control an athletic facility in order to obtain said facility? Smells desperate.
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alright, who is timhawk? it's clams isn't it
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dudes, I took a DUMP outside the toilet at KU memorial and no one even mentioned it or noticed it.
NDSU beat them with a team of freshman.
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honest question here, who does the Kstate faithful think will replace Snyder? is there someone on the staff now or do you think they will look outside of the team?
Already addressed, see avatar :gocho:
who is that? I'm guessing assistant coach or defense coach?
:facepalm:
why would I know who that was? I'm not a ksu fan
Good grief, tim. Go study up. He hasn't been associated with K-State football for about a decade and a half so you can't use that as an excuse.
Ron Prince 2.0?
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dudes, I took a DUMP outside the toilet at KU memorial and no one even mentioned it or noticed it.
NDSU beat them with a team of freshman.
i poured a big bucket of diarrhea on their cheerleaders and they licked it all off of themselves and thanked me for it. then they continued to cheer for their football team who haven't won a game in like 5 years.
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They have speakers in front of student section, sitting on the track, to amplify the band.
I remember I went to that game there last season and it was embarrassing how The Pride outperformed their football team.
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iirc that's white owls main bitch
was
http://www.thewizofodds.com/the_wiz_of_odds/2009/11/white-owl-arrested-jailed.html (http://www.thewizofodds.com/the_wiz_of_odds/2009/11/white-owl-arrested-jailed.html)
Weird a K.U icon got arrested.... :thumbs:
Must be a new concept
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honest question here, who does the Kstate faithful think will replace Snyder? is there someone on the staff now or do you think they will look outside of the team?
Already addressed, see avatar :gocho:
who is that? I'm guessing assistant coach or defense coach?
:facepalm:
why would I know who that was? I'm not a ksu fan
Good grief, tim. Go study up. He hasn't been associated with K-State football for about a decade and a half so you can't use that as an excuse.
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KU's stadium is going to look odd if they remove the track and cover it with more turf. I mean maybe they could add a putt-putt course between the bleachers and the sideline in order to get fans to stay a bit longer. I'm sure excavating the field just to add more bleachers below is a large cost for little improvement.
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There is no point of adding more seats until the others are filled
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Yeah... stadiums are always jam-packed at halftime, especially when the band is on the field.
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Yeah... stadiums are always jam-packed at halftime, especially when the band is on the field.
What if it's pre-game? :dunno:
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Yeah... stadiums are always jam-packed at halftime, especially when the band is on the field.
Looks like pregame to me. It's been a while but I'm pretty sure the K-State band doesn't make it a habit to spell KSU out during their whatever show they do at halftime.
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To say winning in sports is cyclical is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Especially from a KU fan.
Name one program in sports that has never had a down year.
Team USA track and field
Team USA.
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Yeah... stadiums are always jam-packed at halftime, especially when the band is on the field.
Taken in 2011, during the game. Yes the players are on the field. This happened and I was there to see it.
4:16 left in the 1st
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Start of the 4th qt.
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Yeah... stadiums are always jam-packed at halftime, especially when the band is on the field.
Taken in 2011, during the game. Yes the players are on the field. This happened and I was there to see it.
4:16 left in the 1st
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/287377_10150355927762758_2042270317_o.jpg)
Start of the 4th qt.
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I was kind of surprised that the KU team stayed for the whole game, but there some of them are.
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dudes, I took a DUMP outside the toilet at KU memorial and no one even mentioned it or noticed it.
NDSU beat them with a team of freshman.
What an incredible win, lakes!
Didn't you guys like completely blow them out? Double up the score on them or something crazy like that?
:emawkid:
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Yeah... stadiums are always jam-packed at halftime, especially when the band is on the field.
Yep. Halftime for sure. Looks like band day to me. Or else KU's band is enormous. And wearing different style uniforms.
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Yeah... stadiums are always jam-packed at halftime, especially when the band is on the field.
Yep. Halftime for sure. Looks like band day to me. Or else KU's band is enormous. And wearing different style uniforms.
Me <- :goodbyecruelworld:
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There's a master plan in the works right now.
http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/town_talk/2013/jun/21/city-hall-targets-property-on-memorial-s/
:sdeek:
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There's a master plan in the works right now.
http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/town_talk/2013/jun/21/city-hall-targets-property-on-memorial-s/
:sdeek:
oh boy, imagine the views of the hill and the campanile that the transit center will have. no wonder they chose that location to park buses.
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Getting rid of sports (albeit non-competitive) for more public transportation for smelly poor people. That's about what I'd expect in Lawrence.
Very non- :kstategrad:
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There's a master plan in the works right now.
http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/town_talk/2013/jun/21/city-hall-targets-property-on-memorial-s/
:sdeek:
Wait, they are putting a bus station on campus?
:lol:
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superwizbang 4 days, 21 hours ago
Woah, now that is the dumbest idea I have heard from the city yet. HOW is that location centralized. As an avid tailgater, I can vouch for how difficult it is already to get good tailgating spots without donating $25K to WEF each year. Now you take 50 or 60 spots away and push those people out to other lots? How about bus traffic trying to get through on gameday. I won't even begin to talk about the pollution, whether environmental or noise in nature which the students will have to suffer. It seems that in this plan, for this location, the city is merely saying, 'eh, who cares--its just the students and they leave each year--they don't matter!' Crazy.
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You've just made the best argument for why the hub should be located there. Perhaps drunken tailgators whose entire lives revolve around the passive observation of overgrown children tossing inflatable bladders around on a lawn should find other activities to while away their meaningless existences.
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buckjennings does not support ku football or my lifestyle
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:lol:
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FYI, Mike Ahearn was a pretty good football coach, IMO.
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god, ku football is just the gift that keeps on giving. #blessed
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TAILGATORS
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:excited: bus depot!!!
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I doubt the multi-million dollar transit hub will be built next to Memorial Stadium when all is said and done. It's just one area that they're considering (although I wish it wasn't). Does K-State even have a public transportation system? LOL if not.
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public transportation smack!
but seriously, titletown
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I doubt the multi-million dollar transit hub will be built next to Memorial Stadium when all is said and done. It's just one area that they're considering (although I wish it wasn't). Does K-State even have a public transportation system? LOL if not.
Only poors ride the bus. No need for it in Manhattan.
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public transportation smack!
but seriously, titletown
Anything to detract from discussion about Memorial Track and Football Stadium, and the Toilet Bowl II Shambles that is kufootball.
Gridiron Club: Coming Fall 2010
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A D-1 university without a public transit system... LOL. No wonder K-State's campus is barely half the size of KU's.
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A D-1 university without a public transit system... LOL. No wonder K-State's campus is barely half the size of KU's.
What's that got to do with anything??
In Manhattan and in areas within 8 miles of Manhattan, K-State owns 1,000's of acres of land.
But again, that really has nothing to do with nothing.
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A D-1 university without a public transit system... LOL. No wonder K-State's campus is barely half the size of KU's.
they are butthurt because KU's transit system will pick them up at home leaving our Lexus' in the garage while KSU students still have to drive their tractors to campus.
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A D-1 university without a public transit system... LOL. No wonder K-State's campus is barely half the size of KU's.
they are butthurt because KU's transit system will pick them up at home leaving our Lexus' in the garage while KSU students still have to drive their tractors to campus.
Just the best. :thumbsup:
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A D-1 university without a public transit system... LOL. No wonder K-State's campus is barely half the size of KU's.
they are butthurt because KU's transit system will pick them up at home leaving our Lexus' in the garage while KSU students still have to drive their WORLD CHAMPION tractors :ksu: to campus.
FYP bud.
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A D-1 university without a public transit system... LOL. No wonder K-State's campus is barely half the size of KU's.
What's that got to do with anything??
In Manhattan and in areas within 8 miles of Manhattan, K-State owns 1,000's of acres of land.
just curious here, where do the ksu students park if they live off campus? are they allowed to park at the football stadium because i doubt there is enough parking surrounding the educational buildings.
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A D-1 university without a public transit system... LOL. No wonder K-State's campus is barely half the size of KU's.
What's that got to do with anything??
In Manhattan and in areas within 8 miles of Manhattan, K-State owns 1,000's of acres of land.
just curious here, where do the ksu students park if they live off campus? are they allowed to park at the football stadium because i doubt there is enough parking surrounding the educational buildings.
We ride ponies
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A D-1 university without a public transit system... LOL. No wonder K-State's campus is barely half the size of KU's.
What's that got to do with anything??
In Manhattan and in areas within 8 miles of Manhattan, K-State owns 1,000's of acres of land.
just curious here, where do the ksu students park if they live off campus? are they allowed to park at the football stadium because i doubt there is enough parking surrounding the educational buildings.
We ride ponies
do you tie them up at the local saloon too?
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A D-1 university without a public transit system... LOL. No wonder K-State's campus is barely half the size of KU's.
What's that got to do with anything??
In Manhattan and in areas within 8 miles of Manhattan, K-State owns 1,000's of acres of land.
just curious here, where do the ksu students park if they live off campus? are they allowed to park at the football stadium because i doubt there is enough parking surrounding the educational buildings.
We ride ponies
do you tie them up at the local saloon too?
No.
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A D-1 university without a public transit system... LOL. No wonder K-State's campus is barely half the size of KU's.
What's that got to do with anything??
In Manhattan and in areas within 8 miles of Manhattan, K-State owns 1,000's of acres of land.
just curious here, where do the ksu students park if they live off campus? are they allowed to park at the football stadium because i doubt there is enough parking surrounding the educational buildings.
We ride ponies
do you tie them up at the local saloon too?
I usually just stick mine at the stables the show pony department keeps. I don't think you are supposed to, but I tip well enough that they take care of me and mine.
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i can see no one here knows where the students park
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Tractor jokes. Dur dee dur de durp.
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i can see no one here knows where the students park
There are parking lots all over campus, and no matter where you park, you won't be more than a 10 minute walk from class.
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i can see no one here knows where the students park
There are parking lots all over campus, and no matter where you park, you won't be more than a 10 minute walk from class.
thanks. KU only has one real parking lot and it's to the rec center.
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i can see no one here knows where the students park
There are parking lots all over campus, and no matter where you park, you won't be more than a 10 minute walk from class.
thanks. KU only has one real parking lot and it's to the rec center.
So they store spare Hov-a-rounds in that parking garage next to AFH?
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i can see no one here knows where the students park
There are parking lots all over campus, and no matter where you park, you won't be more than a 10 minute walk from class.
thanks. KU only has one real parking lot and it's to the rec center.
So they store spare Hov-a-rounds in that parking garage next to AFH?
you can park there but it's a parking garage, hence you have to pay each time. i forgot that they built a huge ass "park and ride" lot just southwest of campus, most off campus students park there then the bus shuttles them to campus.
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What the eff is going on here? I leave for a few hours and the discussion has descended to campus parking and mass transit smack. Have the resident ku trolls steered the discussion this far away from the trash-strewn dump that is Memorial Stadium?
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memorial stadium in lincoln also blows fwiw
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memorial stadium in lincoln also blows fwiw
I've never seen a stadium that had so many seats in the endzones, and with the expansion way, way, way above the field. "Is that game being played by ants"? Said one red satin poly baseball jacket cornhusker fan to the other.
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memorial stadium in lincoln also blows fwiw
Yeah, but they can pack what, over 80,000 white trash and hicks into that stadium, and consistently do it. Memorial Stadium in Lawrence averages about half that number of white trash and hicks at their typical game. Only exception would be their Superbowl, when probably half the fans are the more handsome, richer, and good-smelling 'Cat fans.
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memorial stadium in lincoln also blows fwiw
Yeah, the stadium in Lawrence is probably nicer.
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memorial stadium in lincoln also blows fwiw
I've never seen a stadium that had so many seats in the endzones, and with the expansion way, way, way above the field. "Is that game being played by ants"? Said one red satin poly baseball jacket cornhusker fan to the other.
I sat in the very top row of that endzone seating once. it's like you're on the moon and it smells like dirtbags.
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Didn't Nubs lose their AAU status?
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Damn, didn't know putting a bell tower next to a peice of crap stadium with a track is what the criteria was. I guess you learn something new every day.
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I always thought that tower was kind of an eye sore, like if all K-Staters worshipped that steam stack thingy by Seaton.
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Damn, didn't know putting a bell tower next to a peice of crap stadium with a track is what the criteria was. I guess you learn something new every day.
bell tower looks like crap now, they dont take care of the limestone like we do.
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looks like a nuclear wasteland.
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Love these threads btw
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.k-state.edu%2Fmaps%2Fbuildings%2FHH%2Fhh.jpg&hash=2141e232fab3875d95d43b621c0696b1cf6b1da2)
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ku.edu%2Fimages%2Fsecond-level%2Fabout%2Fcampus-wide.jpg&hash=dede7d323eee27bb0a654af8486f4045fb56c0d6) !!!!!!!
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looks like a nuclear wasteland.
eyyyyeeeee...
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ku.edu%2Fimages%2Fsecond-level%2Fabout%2Fcampus-wide.jpg&hash=dede7d323eee27bb0a654af8486f4045fb56c0d6) !!!!!!!
:love: :love: :love:
croatia on the plains
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KSU campus isn't bad, it's just too flat.
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ku.edu%2Fimages%2Fsecond-level%2Fabout%2Fcampus-wide.jpg&hash=dede7d323eee27bb0a654af8486f4045fb56c0d6) !!!!!!!
:love: :love: :love:
that's a great picture :)
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:tsc:
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ku.edu%2Fimages%2Fsecond-level%2Fabout%2Fcampus-wide.jpg&hash=dede7d323eee27bb0a654af8486f4045fb56c0d6) !!!!!!!
:love: :love: :love:
It's clear that you have consistently used the same roofing company.
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ku.edu%2Fimages%2Fsecond-level%2Fabout%2Fcampus-wide.jpg&hash=dede7d323eee27bb0a654af8486f4045fb56c0d6) !!!!!!!
:love: :love: :love:
that's a great picture :)
Red Roof Inn.
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KSU campus isn't bad, it's just too flat.
@KUBoobs
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KSU campus isn't bad, it's just too flat.
yeah, if there's one thing that severely sucks when walking around campus, it's that the place is too rough ridin' flat :angry:
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I think both campuses are nice.
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Can anyone produce a picture of the view of main campus from Daisy Hill? Prague in the Spring, I tell you.
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KSU campus isn't bad, it's just too flat.
@KUBoobs
now that's not flat! lol
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snapped a pic from the tower this morning before civ class:
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:love: :love: :love:
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I think both campuses are nice.
Agreed.
snapped a pic from the tower this morning before civ class:
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:love: :love: :love:
:thumbs:
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KU looks sofa king great from I 70 it stops traffic! :excited:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fworldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2010%2F02%2F14%2FI-70_accident002_t460.JPG%3F926875e5be5f93a8dc1e86b8d949ee54b77d1e0d&hash=48ba9fd5374e6869a155b13c65c2c6fd75ca1ff1)
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I mean my word
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:love: :love: :love:
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i do wish we had a budig hall type building. that's one thing ku has 1 upped us on :cry:
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lawls
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i do wish we had a budig hall type building. that's one thing ku has 1 upped us on :cry:
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/233_580017079129_6697_n.jpg)
:love:
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KU's campus is nice.
But it is not nice to make the visitors tailgate on the complete opposite end of the campus by the phog.
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mostly meant the function of the interior, although it is also the best looking building on campus as well. snow probably comes in second :dunno:
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mostly meant the function of the interior, although it is also the best looking building on campus as well. snow probably comes in second :dunno:
Agreed. I had some great times in those buildings.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.treanorarchitects.com%2Fstatic%2Fmedia%2Fphotos%2FBudigHall-02.jpg&hash=333b037c599b340650d0f1f93a40a3a1675774ae)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.math.ku.edu%2F%7Ejschweig%2Fsnowhall.jpg&hash=5cfb3d1457519650f20d0b3bd21c9e7ecd3f27a3)
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Don't forget Wescoe
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.philosophy.ku.edu%2Fimages%2FWescoeHall.gif&hash=2498033cfd4aa74a56e9d94ecac96e9ddeb1edfe)
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Need the screen to be like IMAX sized in order for the kids in back to read that prezi.
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Don't forget Wescoe
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.philosophy.ku.edu%2Fimages%2FWescoeHall.gif&hash=2498033cfd4aa74a56e9d94ecac96e9ddeb1edfe)
Does it still look that after the inter-team riots a few years ago?
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What a real, d-1, AAU university looks like:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmusic.ku.edu%2Fprograms%2Forgan%2Fcarillon%2Fphotos%2FCD0651f27.jpeg&hash=88ccb9984c41aaca97df0c5f49b067e8d22f6cac)
^ THE FACE OF A REAL D-1 AAU UNIVERSITY
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Need the screen to be like IMAX sized in order for the kids in back to read that prezi.
KU professors use prezi??? That's amazing. I'll never forget the first time I used one for a presentation and the whole room audibly gasped during the first "transition."
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KSU campus isn't bad, it's just too flat.
Not sure if serious or you're just really dumb.
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KSU campus isn't bad, it's just too flat.
Not sure if serious or you're just really dumb.
what a great post
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KSU campus isn't bad, it's just too flat.
Not sure if serious or you're just really dumb.
what a great post
I was referring to the "it's too flat" statement.
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Really a great job by resident ku fans on distracting everyone from #kufootballinshambles #20straightconferencelosses #memorialdumptrackandfootballstadium
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I wish our campus was more flat. Would have made the hungover walks to class that much easier
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mostly meant the function of the interior, although it is also the best looking building on campus as well. snow probably comes in second :dunno:
Agreed. I had some great times in those buildings.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.treanorarchitects.com%2Fstatic%2Fmedia%2Fphotos%2FBudigHall-02.jpg&hash=333b037c599b340650d0f1f93a40a3a1675774ae)
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:love: :love: :love:
I took a biology class in that room.
It was way too early in the morning for Biology.
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:horrorsurprise: molecular biology? Maybe we were in class together!
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Here is the latest on the KU stadium renderings. It is 5 years old and done by a fan.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg213%2F5076%2Fkumemorialws6.jpg&hash=17c15184f0bab2c70a3f49fbf93b2d86e5fe3e3f)
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Here is the latest on the KU stadium renderings. It is 5 years old and done by a fan.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg213%2F5076%2Fkumemorialws6.jpg&hash=17c15184f0bab2c70a3f49fbf93b2d86e5fe3e3f)
2 sided jumbotron :horrorsurprise:
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Here is the latest on the KU stadium renderings. It is 5 years old and done by a fan.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg213%2F5076%2Fkumemorialws6.jpg&hash=17c15184f0bab2c70a3f49fbf93b2d86e5fe3e3f)
2 sided jumbotron :horrorsurprise:
for the hippies on the hill of course
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Here is the latest on the KU stadium renderings. It is 5 years old and done by a fan.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg213%2F5076%2Fkumemorialws6.jpg&hash=17c15184f0bab2c70a3f49fbf93b2d86e5fe3e3f)
2 sided jumbotron :horrorsurprise:
for the hippies carnnies on the hill of course
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Don't make me post ISU (above floodplain) Campus Photos. crap will get real. :gocho:
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Don't make me post ISU (above floodplain) Campus Photos. crap will get real. :gocho:
Nobody wants to see your weirdo dome, panther guy.
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Don't make me post ISU (above floodplain) Campus Photos. crap will get real. :gocho:
Nobody wants to see your weirdo dome, panther guy.
Oh, this one? The one in our main hall that is nicer than your state's capital building? Sorry.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.isualum.org%2Fdocuments%2Ffilelibrary%2Fjim_heemstra_photo_of_the_week%2F2510_86564539D287F.jpg&hash=3845ed14311992be2515126e4e7d569f11325d31)
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State cap buildings have nothing to do with football.
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State cap buildings have nothing to do with football.
Are you sure? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/post/vikings-stadium-plan-clears-minnesota-house/2012/05/08/gIQAj7kOAU_blog.html
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State cap buildings have nothing to do with football.
Are you sure? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/post/vikings-stadium-plan-clears-minnesota-house/2012/05/08/gIQAj7kOAU_blog.html
I'm sure. Your cap dome pic was of a building. Although state cap people may have something to do with funding football in some states, a cap building, in and of itself, has no such influence.
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Don't make me post ISU (above floodplain) Campus Photos. crap will get real. :gocho:
Nobody wants to see your weirdo dome, panther guy.
Oh, this one? The one in our main hall that is nicer than your state's capital building? Sorry.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.isualum.org%2Fdocuments%2Ffilelibrary%2Fjim_heemstra_photo_of_the_week%2F2510_86564539D287F.jpg&hash=3845ed14311992be2515126e4e7d569f11325d31)
i mean you're the best iowan poster on here and you resort to state capitol building smack :don'tcare:
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Don't make me post ISU (above floodplain) Campus Photos. crap will get real. :gocho:
Nobody wants to see your weirdo dome, panther guy.
Oh, this one? The one in our main hall that is nicer than your state's capital building? Sorry.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.isualum.org%2Fdocuments%2Ffilelibrary%2Fjim_heemstra_photo_of_the_week%2F2510_86564539D287F.jpg&hash=3845ed14311992be2515126e4e7d569f11325d31)
i mean you're the best iowan poster on here and you resort to state capitol building smack :don'tcare:
Campus smack, bro. Its all the rage.
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That's ugly Havs. There houses with nicer ceilings on my block.
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That's ugly Havs. There houses with nicer ceilings on my block.
looks like eggs everywhere, so confusing
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Don't make me post ISU (above floodplain) Campus Photos. crap will get real. :gocho:
Nobody wants to see your weirdo dome, panther guy.
Oh, this one? The one in our main hall that is nicer than your state's capital building? Sorry.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.isualum.org%2Fdocuments%2Ffilelibrary%2Fjim_heemstra_photo_of_the_week%2F2510_86564539D287F.jpg&hash=3845ed14311992be2515126e4e7d569f11325d31)
i mean you're the best iowan poster on here and you resort to state capitol building smack :don'tcare:
Campus smack, bro. Its all the rage.
Oh Havs....when you going to make it down to MHK again?
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That's ugly Havs. There houses with nicer ceilings on my block.
You live in Ames now? Niiice!
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Here is the latest on the KU stadium renderings. It is 5 years old and done by a fan.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg213%2F5076%2Fkumemorialws6.jpg&hash=17c15184f0bab2c70a3f49fbf93b2d86e5fe3e3f)
2 sided jumbotron :horrorsurprise:
for the hippies carnnies on the hill of course
Is the big white K section a giant tarp?
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Here is the latest on the KU stadium renderings. It is 5 years old and done by a fan.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg213%2F5076%2Fkumemorialws6.jpg&hash=17c15184f0bab2c70a3f49fbf93b2d86e5fe3e3f)
2 sided jumbotron :horrorsurprise:
for the hippies carnnies on the hill of course
Is the big white K section a giant tarp?
weiss's jacket
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That's ugly Havs. There houses with nicer ceilings on my block.
You live in Ames now? Niiice!
Hey Havs, who is that one guy/gal who does the sketches of different Iowa buildings? My dad has like a shitload of Iowa campus drawings, they make me jealous that I can't find any good Anderson Hall art.
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Here is the latest on the KU stadium renderings. It is 5 years old and done by a fan.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg213%2F5076%2Fkumemorialws6.jpg&hash=17c15184f0bab2c70a3f49fbf93b2d86e5fe3e3f)
2 sided jumbotron :horrorsurprise:
for the hippies carnnies on the hill of course
Is the big white K section a giant tarp?
weiss's jacket
:lol:
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Has beems ever successfully linked a picture?
Picture works just fine for my Macbook Pro. Perhaps you are poor and have a PC.
Obviously beems hasn't ever heard of our super rough ridin' awesome architectural program, Mac books a plenty!
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dax alert
http://www.wavingthewheat.com/showthread.php?14366-Rock-Chalk-Park-in-jeopardy&s=cb0a32f7e06086551641515bd9d1d8ef (http://www.wavingthewheat.com/showthread.php?14366-Rock-Chalk-Park-in-jeopardy&s=cb0a32f7e06086551641515bd9d1d8ef)
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dax alert
http://www.wavingthewheat.com/showthread.php?14366-Rock-Chalk-Park-in-jeopardy&s=cb0a32f7e06086551641515bd9d1d8ef (http://www.wavingthewheat.com/showthread.php?14366-Rock-Chalk-Park-in-jeopardy&s=cb0a32f7e06086551641515bd9d1d8ef)
Didn't get the details of the dispute, but smelled like the grafters in Lawrentucky are fighting over whether they get free extension of utilities to the project. That's nothing compared to what the Lawrentucky developers did in Junction City.
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dax alert
http://www.wavingthewheat.com/showthread.php?14366-Rock-Chalk-Park-in-jeopardy&s=cb0a32f7e06086551641515bd9d1d8ef (http://www.wavingthewheat.com/showthread.php?14366-Rock-Chalk-Park-in-jeopardy&s=cb0a32f7e06086551641515bd9d1d8ef)
Didn't get the details of the dispute, but smelled like the grafters in Lawrentucky are fighting over whether they get free extension of utilities to the project. That's nothing compared to what the Lawrentucky developers did in Junction City.
Another sleazy university, university athletic, local developer deal for an athletic facility that will primarily be used by the university. Say it ain't so. Is Lawrence the new Lincoln, NE?
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dax alert
http://www.wavingthewheat.com/showthread.php?14366-Rock-Chalk-Park-in-jeopardy&s=cb0a32f7e06086551641515bd9d1d8ef (http://www.wavingthewheat.com/showthread.php?14366-Rock-Chalk-Park-in-jeopardy&s=cb0a32f7e06086551641515bd9d1d8ef)
nothing is in jeopardy. this dude is just hacked about the city issuing the contract to the G.C.(who is paying for all this) already on site. same dude built the Oread hotel and the massive apartments (which are far nicer than memorial stadium btw) just north of the hotel. someone in larryville gets their panties in a wad every time this developer does anything. with the apartments it was the historical preservation folks.
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dax alert
http://www.wavingthewheat.com/showthread.php?14366-Rock-Chalk-Park-in-jeopardy&s=cb0a32f7e06086551641515bd9d1d8ef (http://www.wavingthewheat.com/showthread.php?14366-Rock-Chalk-Park-in-jeopardy&s=cb0a32f7e06086551641515bd9d1d8ef)
nothing is in jeopardy. this dude is just hacked about the city issuing the contract to the G.C.(who is paying for all this) already on site. same dude built the Oread hotel and the massive apartments (which are far nicer than memorial stadium btw) just north of the hotel. someone in larryville gets their panties in a wad every time this developer does anything. with the apartments it was the historical preservation folks.
This.
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I didn't think it would be a show stopper, but it does sound like a sleazeball deal, but there's lots of sleazeball deals out there like this these days with the taxpayers footing huge chunks of the bill and getting the least amount of utilization.
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THEY'RE DOOMED :runaway:
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I didn't think it would be a show stopper, but it does sound like a sleazeball deal, but there's lots of sleazeball deals out there like this these days with the taxpayers footing huge chunks of the bill and getting the least amount of utilization.
The taxpayers get a 181,000 sq ft rec center facility and 26+ acres of land.
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Sometimes I think to myself, "I can't believe KU has a track around their football field in 2013."
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Welcome to Lawrentucky, the sleaziest place on earth.
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Sometimes I think to myself, "I can't believe KU has a track around their football field in 2013."
It's bad for the conf
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Sometimes I think to myself, "I can't believe KU has a track around their football field in 2013."
It's bad for the conf
Not everyone can be a "have" when it comes to football stadiums. There are the K-States, OUs, OSUs and Texases of the world, then there are the ISUs and KUs. The rich aren't truly "rich" unless you have some poors to compare them to. It takes all kinds. You take the good you take the bad you take them both and then you have the facts of life. The facts of life.
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Sometimes I think to myself, "I can't believe KU has a track around their football field in 2013."
It's bad for the conf
Not everyone can be a "have" when it comes to football stadiums. There are the K-States, OUs, OSUs and Texases of the world, then there are the ISUs and KUs. The rich aren't truly "rich" unless you have some poors to compare them to. It takes all kinds. You take the good you take the bad you take them both and then you have the facts of life. The facts of life.
These are the facts and they are undisputable. Memorial Stadium blows.
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Sometimes I think to myself, "I can't believe KU has a track around their football field in 2013."
It's bad for the conf
Not everyone can be a "have" when it comes to football stadiums. There are the K-States, OUs, OSUs and Texases of the world, then there are the ISUs and KUs. The rich aren't truly "rich" unless you have some poors to compare them to. It takes all kinds. You take the good you take the bad you take them both and then you have the facts of life. The facts of life.
These are the facts and they are undisputable. Memorial Stadium blows.
Wikipedia says so.
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Sometimes I think to myself, "I can't believe KU has a track around their football field in 2013."
It's bad for the conf
Not everyone can be a "have" when it comes to football stadiums. There are the K-States, OUs, OSUs and Texases of the world, then there are the ISUs and KUs. The rich aren't truly "rich" unless you have some poors to compare them to. It takes all kinds. You take the good you take the bad you take them both and then you have the facts of life. The facts of life.
These are the facts and they are undisputable. Memorial Stadium blows.
Wikipedia says so.
:thumbs:
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Sometimes I think to myself, "I can't believe KU has a track around their football field in 2013."
It's bad for the conf
Not everyone can be a "have" when it comes to football stadiums. There are the K-States, OUs, OSUs and Texases of the world, then there are the ISUs and KUs. The rich aren't truly "rich" unless you have some poors to compare them to. It takes all kinds. You take the good you take the bad you take them both and then you have the facts of life. The facts of life.
These are the facts and they are undisputable. Memorial Stadium blows.
Word!
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http://www.stadiumjourney.com/news/02-01-2013/252/college-football-stadium-experience-rankings-2012
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K-State's stadium is garbage. Just a hole in the ground surrounded by a parking lot and prairie land. Thank God they demolished the tiny pressbox and gave the dump a bit of a facelift. KU's stadium puts the hole in the middle of a parking lot to shame.
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K-State's stadium is garbage. Just a hole in the ground surrounded by a parking lot and prairie land. Thank God they demolished the tiny pressbox and gave the dump a bit of a facelift. KU's stadium puts the hole in the middle of a parking lot to shame.
omg lol
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K-State's stadium is garbage. Just a hole in the ground surrounded by a parking lot and prairie land. Thank God they demolished the tiny pressbox and gave the dump a bit of a facelift. KU's stadium puts the hole in the middle of a parking lot to shame.
THE HILL!!!!
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K-State's stadium is garbage. Just a hole in the ground surrounded by a parking lot and prairie land. Thank God they demolished the tiny pressbox and gave the dump a bit of a facelift. KU's stadium puts the hole in the middle of a parking lot to shame.
109 :love:
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'Taters love the color purple and everything shitty in between. It's no wonder they think harley track stadium is nice.
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'Taters love the color purple and everything shitty in between. It's no wonder they think harley track stadium is nice.
#squawkadoodledoo
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K-State's stadium is garbage. Just a hole in the ground surrounded by a parking lot and prairie land. Thank God they demolished the tiny pressbox and gave the dump a bit of a facelift. KU's stadium puts the hole in the middle of a parking lot to shame.
Did you read the link? An unbiased source seems to think otherwise.
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'Taters love the color purple and everything shitty in between. It's no wonder they think harley track stadium is nice.
In between what? The color purple? Like a purple sandwich?
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So is this the ultimate goal for Memorial Stadium?
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Hmmm......34 vs. 109....
Beems lashing out at big bro about lil bro's consistently inferior and grossly deficient football product produced in a racist dump.
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Memorial Stadium, Lawrence, Kansas:
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LHC Bill Snyder Family Stadium, Manhattan, Kansas:
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To be blunt, the atmosphere at LHC Bill Snyder Family Stadium is without a doubt one of the most underappreciated in college football. While it can't come close to matching the likes of LSU's Tiger Stadium or Michigan's Big House in sheer numbers, it comes close in participation, excitement, and "" for lack of a better term "" blood thirst. K-State's, surely, is an atmosphere that should not be missed.
:excited:
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BSFS does look nice and i'm sure it'll be pretty badass when completed. I agree with everyone, Memorial in lawrence needs a big revamp and it's getting there, Weis even said the other day that he has seien some of the plans. The really only good thing about it is the location, it's on campus and has a damn nice view. Rumors are the estimated cost of the Memorial upgrades is going to be around $150 million. So i'm expecting quite a bit of things to be done and should be pretty nice when completed.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2566%2F3907993467_a41220e9ca.jpg&hash=27ec8a5604ccec8f47e38db5f173a8d9e117b415)
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Why put any money into a program for these kinds of fans?
Boo-birds come out in full force following poor play, students are mostly disengaged, and the crowd has a tendency to leave the game well before the clock hits all zeros. Also, noise levels and fan passion in general "" even in the Mangino-era "" were hampered by a track that surrounds the playing surface and keeps fans far away from the action.
:dunno: :confused:
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Why put any money into a program for these kinds of fans?
Boo-birds come out in full force following poor play, students are mostly disengaged, and the crowd has a tendency to leave the game well before the clock hits all zeros. Also, noise levels and fan passion in general "" even in the Mangino-era "" were hampered by a track that surrounds the playing surface and keeps fans far away from the action.
:dunno: :confused:
you made me say this....why put money into a program(ksu AD) that has had no success on a national scale?
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BSFS does look nice and i'm sure it'll be pretty badass when completed. I agree with everyone, Memorial in lawrence needs a big revamp and it's getting there, Weis even said the other day that he has seien some of the plans. The really only good thing about it is the location, it's on campus and has a damn nice view. Rumors are the estimated cost of the Memorial upgrades is going to be around $150 million. So i'm expecting quite a bit of things to be done and should be pretty nice when completed.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2566%2F3907993467_a41220e9ca.jpg&hash=27ec8a5604ccec8f47e38db5f173a8d9e117b415)
Every pic KU fans use to brag about their stadium is a view pointing away from the field with very little of the facilities in it.
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Why put any money into a program for these kinds of fans?
Boo-birds come out in full force following poor play, students are mostly disengaged, and the crowd has a tendency to leave the game well before the clock hits all zeros. Also, noise levels and fan passion in general "" even in the Mangino-era "" were hampered by a track that surrounds the playing surface and keeps fans far away from the action.
:dunno: :confused:
you made me say this....why put money into a program(ksu AD) that has had no success on a national scale?
You really need some new talking points.
Football's method for deciding "national scale" is significantly different from basketball. ku had one fluke season and then immediately plummeted back to reality as the worst football program in the Big 12 and you guys are going to cling to that for all its worth because that's all the rare ku football fan has, 2 good seasons in the last 45, 2007 and 1995.
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BSFS does look nice and i'm sure it'll be pretty badass when completed. I agree with everyone, Memorial in lawrence needs a big revamp and it's getting there, Weis even said the other day that he has seien some of the plans. The really only good thing about it is the location, it's on campus and has a damn nice view. Rumors are the estimated cost of the Memorial upgrades is going to be around $150 million. So i'm expecting quite a bit of things to be done and should be pretty nice when completed.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2566%2F3907993467_a41220e9ca.jpg&hash=27ec8a5604ccec8f47e38db5f173a8d9e117b415)
Every pic KU fans use to brag about their stadium is a view pointing away from the field with very little of the facilities in it.
Campus and hill tho
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BSFS does look nice and i'm sure it'll be pretty badass when completed. I agree with everyone, Memorial in lawrence needs a big revamp and it's getting there, Weis even said the other day that he has seien some of the plans. The really only good thing about it is the location, it's on campus and has a damn nice view. Rumors are the estimated cost of the Memorial upgrades is going to be around $150 million. So i'm expecting quite a bit of things to be done and should be pretty nice when completed.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2566%2F3907993467_a41220e9ca.jpg&hash=27ec8a5604ccec8f47e38db5f173a8d9e117b415)
Every pic KU fans use to brag about their stadium is a view pointing away from the field with very little of the facilities in it.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm2.static.flickr.com%2F1012%2F1400464466_b4b9284fd5_b.jpg&hash=f7e8e68c85db6edcc8f3631d19192cb1b0a65db4)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgrfx.cstv.com%2Fphotos%2Fschools%2Fkan%2Fgenrel%2Ffacilities%2Fstadium-sellout-450w.jpg&hash=423d33ff333a71e34bb1f729c74285e6884a856e)
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there ya happy?
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So is this the ultimate goal for Memorial Stadium?
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No.
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BSFS does look nice and i'm sure it'll be pretty badass when completed. I agree with everyone, Memorial in lawrence needs a big revamp and it's getting there, Weis even said the other day that he has seien some of the plans. The really only good thing about it is the location, it's on campus and has a damn nice view. Rumors are the estimated cost of the Memorial upgrades is going to be around $150 million. So i'm expecting quite a bit of things to be done and should be pretty nice when completed.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2566%2F3907993467_a41220e9ca.jpg&hash=27ec8a5604ccec8f47e38db5f173a8d9e117b415)
Every pic KU fans use to brag about their stadium is a view pointing away from the field with very little of the facilities in it.
Campus and hill tho
"Perhaps the most picturesque setting in all of college football."
"One of the most beautiful college campuses in the country."
- NCAA '14 quotes
:love: :love: :love:
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BSFS does look nice and i'm sure it'll be pretty badass when completed. I agree with everyone, Memorial in lawrence needs a big revamp and it's getting there, Weis even said the other day that he has seien some of the plans. The really only good thing about it is the location, it's on campus and has a damn nice view. Rumors are the estimated cost of the Memorial upgrades is going to be around $150 million. So i'm expecting quite a bit of things to be done and should be pretty nice when completed.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2566%2F3907993467_a41220e9ca.jpg&hash=27ec8a5604ccec8f47e38db5f173a8d9e117b415)
Every pic KU fans use to brag about their stadium is a view pointing away from the field with very little of the facilities in it.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm2.static.flickr.com%2F1012%2F1400464466_b4b9284fd5_b.jpg&hash=f7e8e68c85db6edcc8f3631d19192cb1b0a65db4)
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there ya happy?
:lol:
Happy that I don't have to claim that dump.
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Why put any money into a program for these kinds of fans?
Boo-birds come out in full force following poor play, students are mostly disengaged, and the crowd has a tendency to leave the game well before the clock hits all zeros. Also, noise levels and fan passion in general "" even in the Mangino-era "" were hampered by a track that surrounds the playing surface and keeps fans far away from the action.
:dunno: :confused:
you made me say this....why put money into a program(ksu AD) that has had no success on a national scale?
You really need some new talking points.
Football's method for deciding "national scale" is significantly different from basketball. ku had one fluke season and then immediately plummeted back to reality as the worst football program in the Big 12 and you guys are going to cling to that for all its worth because that's all the rare ku football fan has, 2 good seasons in the last 45, 2007 and 1995.
KU went 8-5 the year after the Orange Bowl.
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BSFS does look nice and i'm sure it'll be pretty badass when completed. I agree with everyone, Memorial in lawrence needs a big revamp and it's getting there, Weis even said the other day that he has seien some of the plans. The really only good thing about it is the location, it's on campus and has a damn nice view. Rumors are the estimated cost of the Memorial upgrades is going to be around $150 million. So i'm expecting quite a bit of things to be done and should be pretty nice when completed.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2566%2F3907993467_a41220e9ca.jpg&hash=27ec8a5604ccec8f47e38db5f173a8d9e117b415)
Every pic KU fans use to brag about their stadium is a view pointing away from the field with very little of the facilities in it.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm2.static.flickr.com%2F1012%2F1400464466_b4b9284fd5_b.jpg&hash=f7e8e68c85db6edcc8f3631d19192cb1b0a65db4)
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there ya happy?
:lol:
Happy that I don't have to claim that dump.
take away the track and it's not that bad
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I still think a pretty kick-ass putt-putt course could be built over the track for additional fan amenities during gamedays. Might keep the butts in the seats a bit longer. A great family environment.
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So is this the ultimate goal for Memorial Stadium?
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No.
Same shape, additional seats, nice pressbox. I think that's a worthy goal.
They could always tear down and build this though too...
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I :love: that stadium. Favorite in college football.
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So is this the ultimate goal for Memorial Stadium?
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No.
Same shape, additional seats, nice pressbox. I think that's a worthy goal.
They could always tear down and build this though too...
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I :love: that stadium. Favorite in college football.
i would love for KU to build a new stadium but i just dont think it will happen. Memorial is a war memorial and there isn't really anywhere to build a new stadium except where the current one sits
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So is this the ultimate goal for Memorial Stadium?
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No.
Same shape, additional seats, nice pressbox. I think that's a worthy goal.
They could always tear down and build this though too...
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I :love: that stadium. Favorite in college football.
i would love for KU to build a new stadium but i just dont think it will happen. Memorial is a war memorial and there isn't really anywhere to build a new stadium except where the current one sits
6th and wak
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So is this the ultimate goal for Memorial Stadium?
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No.
Same shape, additional seats, nice pressbox. I think that's a worthy goal.
They could always tear down and build this though too...
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I :love: that stadium. Favorite in college football.
i would love for KU to build a new stadium but i just dont think it will happen. Memorial is a war memorial and there isn't really anywhere to build a new stadium except where the current one sits
6th and wak
i think they really want to keep it on campus
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So is this the ultimate goal for Memorial Stadium?
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No.
Same shape, additional seats, nice pressbox. I think that's a worthy goal.
They could always tear down and build this though too...
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I :love: that stadium. Favorite in college football.
i would love for KU to build a new stadium but i just dont think it will happen. Memorial is a war memorial and there isn't really anywhere to build a new stadium except where the current one sits
6th and wak
i think they really want to keep it on campus
Be that as it may, it would be extremely expensive and will probably lead to the stadium being closed for at least a year
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So is this the ultimate goal for Memorial Stadium?
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No.
Same shape, additional seats, nice pressbox. I think that's a worthy goal.
They could always tear down and build this though too...
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I :love: that stadium. Favorite in college football.
i would love for KU to build a new stadium but i just dont think it will happen. Memorial is a war memorial and there isn't really anywhere to build a new stadium except where the current one sits
6th and wak
i think they really want to keep it on campus
Be that as it may, it would be extremely expensive and will probably lead to the stadium being closed for at least a year
i agree...it would cost probably $250mil+ for a new stadium and KU would probably have to play a season in Arrowhead, blah!
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Havs, Memorial Stadium is going to have a second press box on the East side. They'll also probably lower the field so that they can bring the seats in closer to the action.
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2x the amount of press. Good press too! None of that half-assed mediocre press.
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is i time for sight line discussions yet?
:drool:
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2x the amount of press. Good press too! None of that half-assed mediocre press.
Yup! You'd be hard pressed to find more impressive press boxes.
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i agree...it would cost probably $250mil+ for a new stadium and KU would probably have to play a season in Arrowhead, blah!
Why play in Arrowhead when BSFS is available on Friday nights?
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2x the amount of press. Good press too! None of that half-assed mediocre press.
Yup! You'd be hard pressed to find more impressive press boxes.
Each side could start a press box arms race. The original will construct another press box upon itself. :comeatme:
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didn't think anyone in the Big 12 could be worse than Baylor. Man. Woof city.
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eff lowering the field, etc. that won't really solve the issue at memorial. why not close the east side of memorial down and redo it. just force the fans into the bowl and the west side and the hill.
would suck for a year or whatever but then do the same thing for the west side. then build up the pressboxes/suites in the bowl or whaever.
would be able to keep the campus location that way too.
doing a phased approach like we are also helps with fundraising.
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i agree...it would cost probably $250mil+ for a new stadium and KU would probably have to play a season in Arrowhead, blah!
Why play in Arrowhead when BSFS is available on Friday nights?
here's a pretty elegant solution to the idea raised in the NDSU thread about starting an EMAW FCS team. we could just move KU over to Memorial Stadium in Manhattan, put them in purple and call them the K-State Wildhawks. they could compete at the FCS level and would probably do pretty well. then KU fans don't have to go to football games anymore, we can just support both.
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honestly if I was a KU Hawk fan, (thank God I am not) I would LOVE to abandon Memorial for a season in Arrowhead if that meant a brand new stadium.
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i am becoming more and more convinced that kstate and ku reached a gentlemans agreement two years ago where kstate would get the fball team and ku would get the bball team. they hired chaz. we hired bweb. the redid allan (sp?). we build a kabillion dollar pressbox. it's sad to say but my money is on lawrence highschool playing on that ku field ten years from now and then freestate gets their own. jmo.
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i am becoming more and more convinced that kstate and ku reached a gentlemans agreement two years ago where kstate would get the fball team and ku would get the bball team. they hired chaz. we hired bweb. the redid allan (sp?). we build a kabillion dollar pressbox. it's sad to say but my money is on lawrence highschool playing on that ku field ten years from now and then freestate gets their own. jmo.
Could be something to this. Probs didn't want to axe either team due to the minor riot on their hands; meanwhile, they get to keep the fan situation at manageable levels for a state this size with two flagships.
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Chernobyl-y
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Chernobyl-y
to be honest, that's actually a cool picture. Although the lights are pretty small timey.
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Chernobyl-y
to be honest, that's actually a cool picture. Although the lights are pretty small timey.
LOL at their crane versus Niles and Frasier.
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Chernobyl-y
to be honest, that's actually a cool picture. Although the lights are pretty small timey.
tbh, that's actually not really a cool picture.
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The chain-link fence with blue tarp draped over it always confused me. T's and P's to lil' bro in hopes they can start doing better stuff to their stadium.
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that's an old picture, that's when they were doing construction on the new football facilities.
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The chain-link fence with blue tarp draped over it always confused me. T's and P's to lil' bro in hopes they can start doing better stuff to their stadium.
Honestly, I think the seats opposite of the press box is the worst thing, even worse than the track. It's seriously a depressing look from outside the stadium.
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The chain-link fence with blue tarp draped over it always confused me. T's and P's to lil' bro in hopes they can start doing better stuff to their stadium.
Honestly, I think the seats opposite of the press box is the worst thing, even worse than the track. It's seriously a depressing look from outside the stadium.
Might be fun to play a giant Connect Four game on it though.
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The chain-link fence with blue tarp draped over it always confused me. T's and P's to lil' bro in hopes they can start doing better stuff to their stadium.
Honestly, I think the seats opposite of the press box is the worst thing, even worse than the track. It's seriously a depressing look from outside the stadium.
Might be fun to play a giant Connect Four game on it though.
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Or Celebrity Squares :excited:
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The chain-link fence with blue tarp draped over it always confused me. T's and P's to lil' bro in hopes they can start doing better stuff to their stadium.
Honestly, I think the seats opposite of the press box is the worst thing, even worse than the track. It's seriously a depressing look from outside the stadium.
Might be fun to play a giant Connect Four game on it though.
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Go for it Red
Go for it Black
Go for it (Rip his rough ridin' head off)
Connect Four!
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The chain-link fence with blue tarp draped over it always confused me. T's and P's to lil' bro in hopes they can start doing better stuff to their stadium.
Honestly, I think the seats opposite of the press box is the worst thing, even worse than the track. It's seriously a depressing look from outside the stadium.
Might be fun to play a giant Connect Four game on it though.
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Go for it Red
Go for it Black
Go for it (Rip his rough ridin' head off)
Connect Four!
Come on, we all know that's one of the Shawnee Mission School District stadiums, right?
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Chernobyl-y
to be honest, that's actually a cool picture. Although the lights are pretty small timey.
tbh, that's actually not really a cool picture.
Yeah that pic blows.
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Chernobyl-y
to be honest, that's actually a cool picture. Although the lights are pretty small timey.
tbh, that's actually not really a cool picture.
Yeah that pic blows.
Is it Band Day? It looks like there's a lot of people there...
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Don't listen to them, Tim. Send some more my way! :excited:
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They'll also probably lower the field so that they can bring the seats in closer to the action.
Also to get a better smell of the pile of crap
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Guys if they lower the field won't it flood? Havs? HAVS???????
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Chernobyl-y
to be honest, that's actually a cool picture. Although the lights are pretty small timey.
tbh, that's actually not really a cool picture.
The hill is being underutilized
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I think they should just move the field/stadium over to the hill. Enclose the bowl over there with the hill as support. They can keep their beautiful campus backdrop, have phased remodel, and flip the track 90 degrees. and it can be on the other side of the stadium. Boom problem solved.
Goodnight everyone.
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I like how Ku fans all think there's just loose dirt ready for excavation below the field. I mean, it stinks pretty bad other, so maybe the sewage actually does just leach out into the surrounding "ecology", but I still gotta think theres plenty of aged "infrasture" to.deal with.
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I like how Ku fans all think there's just loose dirt ready for excavation below the field. I mean, it stinks pretty bad other, so maybe the sewage actually does just leach out into the surrounding "ecology", but I still gotta think theres plenty of aged "infrasture" to.deal with.
Wouldn't want to pollute that "lake"
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Dear KUers: would you be down with playing a season or two of games in KC if they meant a complete demo of Memorial and then a new stadium built right there?
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This thread is kind of a bummer.
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Dear KUers: would you be down with playing a season or two of games in KC if they meant a complete demo of Memorial and then a new stadium built right there?
Yes, but then again I don't live in the KC metro like the rest of the circle jerkers. Shoot, we should play at Livestrong, that way it will sell out and actually be a cool environment. Of course, the business types won't like this idea.
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Dear KUers: would you be down with playing a season or two of games in KC if they meant a complete demo of Memorial and then a new stadium built right there?
Yes, but then again I don't live in the KC metro like the rest of the circle jerkers. Shoot, we should play at Livestrong, that way it will sell out and actually be a cool environment. Of course, the business types won't like this idea.
Nothing says big time like a 20k seat stadium
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BSFS does look nice and i'm sure it'll be pretty badass when completed. I agree with everyone, Memorial in lawrence needs a big revamp and it's getting there, Weis even said the other day that he has seien some of the plans. The really only good thing about it is the location, it's on campus and has a damn nice view. Rumors are the estimated cost of the Memorial upgrades is going to be around $150 million. So i'm expecting quite a bit of things to be done and should be pretty nice when completed.
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Every pic KU fans use to brag about their stadium is a view pointing away from the field with very little of the facilities in it.
Campus and hill tho
"Perhaps the most picturesque setting in all of college football."
"One of the most beautiful college campuses in the country."
- NCAA '14 quotes
:love: :love: :love:
Sorry to burst your bubble beems but they say the same thing about 20-30 other stadiums in the game
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I like places that have a bit of character... a bit of charm to them. Anyone can plop some new stadium in the middle of a field and surround it with a bunch of parking lots. KU's stadium is in a great location with a beautiful setting, and it's completely unique to KU. Future improvements are on the way, and when they're finally completed, KU is going to have one of the best all around stadiums in the country. You guys can have the hole in the ground surrounded by sheep pens, parking lots, and a harley track.
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The Setting tho
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I like places that have a bit of character... a bit of charm to them. Anyone can plop some new stadium in the middle of a field and surround it with a bunch of parking lots. KU's stadium is in a great location with a beautiful setting, and it's completely unique to KU. Future improvements are on the way, and when they're finally completed, KU is going to have one of the best all around stadiums in the country. You guys can have the hole in the ground surrounded by sheep pens, parking lots, and a harley track.
Is "all around" code for track and field?
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The national championship track & field program is getting its own multi million dollar sports complex.
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None of you have lakefront stadiums so SUCK IT.
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I like places that have a bit of character... a bit of charm to them. Anyone can plop some new stadium in the middle of a field and surround it with a bunch of parking lots. KU's stadium is in a great location with a beautiful setting, and it's completely unique to KU. Future improvements are on the way, and when they're finally completed, KU is going to have one of the best all around stadiums in the country. You guys can have the hole in the ground surrounded by sheep pens, parking lots, and a harley track.
Good luck on your fictional future stadium
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I like places that have a bit of character... a bit of charm to them. Anyone can plop some new stadium in the middle of a field and surround it with a bunch of parking lots. KU's stadium is in a great location with a beautiful setting, and it's completely unique to KU. Future improvements are on the way, and when they're finally completed, KU is going to have one of the best all around stadiums in the country. You guys can have the hole in the ground surrounded by sheep pens, parking lots, and a harley track.
Good luck on your fictional future stadium
There's a difference between a Bad Stadium in a "Picturesque" setting and a Good Stadium in a "Picturesque" setting
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I like places that have a bit of character... a bit of charm to them. Anyone can plop some new stadium in the middle of a field and surround it with a bunch of parking lots. KU's stadium is in a great location with a beautiful setting, and it's completely unique to KU. Future improvements are on the way, and when they're finally completed, KU is going to have one of the best all around stadiums in the country. You guys can have the hole in the ground surrounded by sheep pens, parking lots, and a harley track.
To be honest, this talking point dies as soon as you see a game in Boulder.
After that, every other stadium is sitting in, or around, a pile of crap.
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Beems is so butthurt that BSFS is so much nicer than Memorial. Anyone who tries to convince people that Memorial is better than BSFS is pathetic.
What is wrong with having the stadium surrounded by parking lots? It creates a a great tailgating atmosphere that KU can't even come close to competing with.
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Beems is so butthurt that BSFS is so much nicer than Memorial. Anyone who tries to convince people that Memorial is better than BSFS is pathetic.
What is wrong with having the stadium surrounded by parking lots? It creates a a great tailgating atmosphere that KU can't even come close to competing with.
Tents on the hill tho
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This would be an improvement
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I like places that have a bit of character... a bit of charm to them. Anyone can plop some new stadium in the middle of a field and surround it with a bunch of parking lots.
There is no other place in America like the Flint Hills
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This would be an improvement
Copy and paste Boone Pickens?
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I like places that have a bit of character... a bit of charm to them. Anyone can plop some new stadium in the middle of a field and surround it with a bunch of parking lots.
There is no other place in America like the Flint Hills
Doesn't Nebraska sing a song singing "There is no place like....?" We should keep away from this terminology.
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Big improvement have.
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This would be an improvement
Copy and paste Boone Pickens?
Not quite.
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I like places that have a bit of character... a bit of charm to them. Anyone can plop some new stadium in the middle of a field and surround it with a bunch of parking lots. KU's stadium is in a great location with a beautiful setting, and it's completely unique to KU. Future improvements are on the way, and when they're finally completed, KU is going to have one of the best all around stadiums in the country. You guys can have the hole in the ground surrounded by sheep pens, parking lots, and a harley track.
This discussion is similar to Municipal Stadium vs. Arrowhead Stadium for the Chiefs. If you enjoy parking in yards, praying for a spot on the street, and meeting friends in the stadium vs. tailgating with them, Municipal was an OK sports venue. Of course, you also dealt with a stadium that had fewer amenities, poorer seating, and other drawbacks. Arrowhead Stadium overcame those drawbacks. Memorial Stadium for KU is like Municipal Stadium was for the Chiefs. As for "character" and "charm", those are terms that realtors use to describe properties that are old and decrepit, and have little going for them. So, I do agree with your use of those adjectives.
Arrowhead Stadium has huge parking lots, allowing tailgating, and meeting with friends hours before game time. BSFS is like Arrowhead Stadium, but it's still on campus. K-State is making better improvements to BSFS than the Chiefs made to Arrowhead, and doing it for less money. I know it sucks to be stuck in Memorial Stadium while the 'Cats move on to bigger and better things, but a basketball-first school, by necessity, makes trade-offs. One of them is playing in a sucky stadium widely acknowledged as being one of the poorest venues in Div I football.
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This would be an improvement
No hill view tho
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I like places that have a bit of character... a bit of charm to them. Anyone can plop some new stadium in the middle of a field and surround it with a bunch of parking lots.
There is no other place in America like the Flint Hills
Doesn't Nebraska sing a song singing "There is no place like....?" We should keep away from this terminology.
Flint Hills :curse:
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I like places that have a bit of character... a bit of charm to them. Anyone can plop some new stadium in the middle of a field and surround it with a bunch of parking lots.
There is no other place in America like the Flint Hills
Doesn't Nebraska sing a song singing "There is no place like....?" We should keep away from this terminology.
Flint Hills :curse:
Oh hush. I've admitted they look cool. They aren't the Rocky Mountains though.
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To borrow a term from the realtors glossary for old shitty place in a bad neighborhood without scenery, Memorial Stadium is"eclectic"
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To borrow a term from the realtors glossary for old shitty place in a bad neighborhood without scenery, Memorial Stadium is"eclectic"
"Up and coming"
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To borrow a term from the realtors glossary for old shitty place in a bad neighborhood without scenery, Memorial Stadium is"eclectic"
Those neighborhoods usually need to be gentrified or revitalized. :opcat:
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What's the realtor word for "city bus depot on site"?
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:excited:
What's the realtor word for "city bus depot on site"?
Easy access to transportation.
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Beems is so butthurt that BSFS is so much nicer than Memorial. Anyone who tries to convince people that Memorial is better than BSFS is pathetic.
What is wrong with having the stadium surrounded by parking lots? It creates a a great tailgating atmosphere that KU can't even come close to competing with.
have u ever tailgated at a KU game at Memorial? the streets nearby have parties going on at everybody's house, it's awesome. if I want to tailgate in a big asphalt parking lot I'll go do it at arrowhead.
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Beems is so butthurt that BSFS is so much nicer than Memorial. Anyone who tries to convince people that Memorial is better than BSFS is pathetic.
What is wrong with having the stadium surrounded by parking lots? It creates a a great tailgating atmosphere that KU can't even come close to competing with.
have u ever tailgated at a KU game at Memorial? the streets nearby have parties going on at everybody's house, it's awesome. if I want to tailgate in a big asphalt parking lot I'll go do it at arrowhead.
And probably pretend you're a Raiders fan
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Beems is so butthurt that BSFS is so much nicer than Memorial. Anyone who tries to convince people that Memorial is better than BSFS is pathetic.
What is wrong with having the stadium surrounded by parking lots? It creates a a great tailgating atmosphere that KU can't even come close to competing with.
have u ever tailgated at a KU game at Memorial? the streets nearby have parties going on at everybody's house, it's awesome. if I want to tailgate in a big asphalt parking lot I'll go do it at arrowhead.
Why would you want to go to a house party instead of tailgating OUTSIDE where it is supposed to be done? You know a tailgate is part of a truck right?
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Beems is so butthurt that BSFS is so much nicer than Memorial. Anyone who tries to convince people that Memorial is better than BSFS is pathetic.
What is wrong with having the stadium surrounded by parking lots? It creates a a great tailgating atmosphere that KU can't even come close to competing with.
have u ever tailgated at a KU game at Memorial? the streets nearby have parties going on at everybody's house, it's awesome. if I want to tailgate in a big asphalt parking lot I'll go do it at arrowhead.
Why would you want to go to a house party instead of tailgating OUTSIDE where it is supposed to be done? You know a tailgate is part of a truck right?
parties are in the yards...yea I know tailgate is part of a truck, so do u all party IN the truck?
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Or go to Ames where there are yard parties at fraternities and sororities AND better tailgating.
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Beems is so butthurt that BSFS is so much nicer than Memorial. Anyone who tries to convince people that Memorial is better than BSFS is pathetic.
What is wrong with having the stadium surrounded by parking lots? It creates a a great tailgating atmosphere that KU can't even come close to competing with.
have u ever tailgated at a KU game at Memorial? the streets nearby have parties going on at everybody's house, it's awesome. if I want to tailgate in a big asphalt parking lot I'll go do it at arrowhead.
You mean what is commonly known as the best tailgating in the NFL?
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Beems is so butthurt that BSFS is so much nicer than Memorial. Anyone who tries to convince people that Memorial is better than BSFS is pathetic.
What is wrong with having the stadium surrounded by parking lots? It creates a a great tailgating atmosphere that KU can't even come close to competing with.
have u ever tailgated at a KU game at Memorial? the streets nearby have parties going on at everybody's house, it's awesome. if I want to tailgate in a big asphalt parking lot I'll go do it at arrowhead.
You mean what is commonly known as the best tailgating in the NFL?
:shakesfist:
Nowhere else in the NFL beats this tailgating scene:
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silver linings playbook did an awesome job of accurately portraying NFL tailgating imo
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Beems is so butthurt that BSFS is so much nicer than Memorial. Anyone who tries to convince people that Memorial is better than BSFS is pathetic.
What is wrong with having the stadium surrounded by parking lots? It creates a a great tailgating atmosphere that KU can't even come close to competing with.
have u ever tailgated at a KU game at Memorial? the streets nearby have parties going on at everybody's house, it's awesome. if I want to tailgate in a big asphalt parking lot I'll go do it at arrowhead.
I stopped by one of those parties and found 3 girls locked up in the basement like that Cleveland thing. Cops looked the other way. It was creepy and weird. Don't stop by those places in less you want someone to cut you up and ware your flesh. :frown: :truestory:
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Beems is so butthurt that BSFS is so much nicer than Memorial. Anyone who tries to convince people that Memorial is better than BSFS is pathetic.
What is wrong with having the stadium surrounded by parking lots? It creates a a great tailgating atmosphere that KU can't even come close to competing with.
have u ever tailgated at a KU game at Memorial? the streets nearby have parties going on at everybody's house, it's awesome. if I want to tailgate in a big asphalt parking lot I'll go do it at arrowhead.
I stopped by one of those parties and found 3 girls locked up in the basement like that Cleveland thing. Cops looked the other way. It was creepy and weird. Don't stop by those places in less you want someone to cut you up and ware your flesh. :frown: :truestory:
I love how u all try to be funny and think you're smart lol
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Tim loves wackycat! :D
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Tim loves wackycat! :D
He really does. :D
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:comehere:
Tim loves wackycat! :D
He really does. :D
sorry I don't like fatties
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Beems is so butthurt that BSFS is so much nicer than Memorial. Anyone who tries to convince people that Memorial is better than BSFS is pathetic.
What is wrong with having the stadium surrounded by parking lots? It creates a a great tailgating atmosphere that KU can't even come close to competing with.
have u ever tailgated at a KU game at Memorial? the streets nearby have parties going on at everybody's house, it's awesome. if I want to tailgate in a big asphalt parking lot I'll go do it at arrowhead.
Why would you want to go to a house party instead of tailgating OUTSIDE where it is supposed to be done? You know a tailgate is part of a truck right?
parties are in the yards...yea I know tailgate is part of a truck, so do u all party IN the truck?
It sucks because it's all spread out. You don't get to meet new people and create impromptu tailgate parties.
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Don't care. Haven't read. Too long (stupid) BMW forever.
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:comehere: Tim loves wackycat! :D
He really does. :D
sorry I don't like fatties
You guys, tell him how skinny I am. :shakesfist:
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Have been to quite a few football games at Memorial. Pregame sucks, all the "parties" are fragmented among the slums surrounding Memorial Stadium. Then you get to the game, and the fans are disengaged, except to complain about officiating--this usually lasts into the 2nd qtr, or early part of 3rd qtr. By mid 3rd quarter, all ku fans are leaving, the ones remaining are despondent and unresponsive. Yeah, a great atmosphere. Face it, Memorial Stadium, like it's fanbase, blows.
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Have been to quite a few football games at Memorial. Pregame sucks, all the "parties" are fragmented among the slums surrounding Memorial Stadium. Then you get to the game, and the fans are disengaged, except to complain about officiating--this usually lasts into the 2nd qtr, or early part of 3rd qtr. By mid 3rd quarter, all ku fans are leaving, the ones remaining are despondent and unresponsive. Yeah, a great atmosphere. Face it, Memorial Stadium, like it's fanbase, blows.
funny how this sorta sounds like ksu basketball games.
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Have been to quite a few football games at Memorial. Pregame sucks, all the "parties" are fragmented among the slums surrounding Memorial Stadium. Then you get to the game, and the fans are disengaged, except to complain about officiating--this usually lasts into the 2nd qtr, or early part of 3rd qtr. By mid 3rd quarter, all ku fans are leaving, the ones remaining are despondent and unresponsive. Yeah, a great atmosphere. Face it, Memorial Stadium, like it's fanbase, blows.
funny how this sorta sounds like ksu basketball games.
Its a hobby sport that no one gives a eff about so, pretty much.
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Have been to quite a few football games at Memorial. Pregame sucks, all the "parties" are fragmented among the slums surrounding Memorial Stadium. Then you get to the game, and the fans are disengaged, except to complain about officiating--this usually lasts into the 2nd qtr, or early part of 3rd qtr. By mid 3rd quarter, all ku fans are leaving, the ones remaining are despondent and unresponsive. Yeah, a great atmosphere. Face it, Memorial Stadium, like it's fanbase, blows.
funny how this sorta sounds like ksu basketball games.
Its a hobby sport that no one gives a eff about so, pretty much.
I guess that's what football is to KU then, a hobby sport.
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Have been to quite a few football games at Memorial. Pregame sucks, all the "parties" are fragmented among the slums surrounding Memorial Stadium. Then you get to the game, and the fans are disengaged, except to complain about officiating--this usually lasts into the 2nd qtr, or early part of 3rd qtr. By mid 3rd quarter, all ku fans are leaving, the ones remaining are despondent and unresponsive. Yeah, a great atmosphere. Face it, Memorial Stadium, like it's fanbase, blows.
funny how this sorta sounds like ksu basketball games.
Its a hobby sport that no one gives a eff about so, pretty much.
I guess that's what football is to KU then, a hobby sport.
DERRR, ya think?
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Have been to quite a few football games at Memorial. Pregame sucks, all the "parties" are fragmented among the slums surrounding Memorial Stadium. Then you get to the game, and the fans are disengaged, except to complain about officiating--this usually lasts into the 2nd qtr, or early part of 3rd qtr. By mid 3rd quarter, all ku fans are leaving, the ones remaining are despondent and unresponsive. Yeah, a great atmosphere. Face it, Memorial Stadium, like it's fanbase, blows.
funny how this sorta sounds like ksu basketball games.
Its a hobby sport that no one gives a eff about so, pretty much.
I guess that's what football is to KU then, a hobby sport.
DERRR, ya think?
DERRRRRRR CARTMAN!!!
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Have been to quite a few football games at Memorial. Pregame sucks, all the "parties" are fragmented among the slums surrounding Memorial Stadium. Then you get to the game, and the fans are disengaged, except to complain about officiating--this usually lasts into the 2nd qtr, or early part of 3rd qtr. By mid 3rd quarter, all ku fans are leaving, the ones remaining are despondent and unresponsive. Yeah, a great atmosphere. Face it, Memorial Stadium, like it's fanbase, blows.
funny how this sorta sounds like ksu basketball games.
Its a hobby sport that no one gives a eff about so, pretty much.
I guess that's what football is to KU then, a hobby sport.
DERRR, ya think?
DERRRRRRR CARTMAN!!!
KSU = confy champs in basketball...when's the last time ku could say that about football? Has it happened in your lifetime? Your father's lifetime? Your grandfather's lifetime? KSU basketball is several planes higher in quality than is ku football.
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Have been to quite a few football games at Memorial. Pregame sucks, all the "parties" are fragmented among the slums surrounding Memorial Stadium. Then you get to the game, and the fans are disengaged, except to complain about officiating--this usually lasts into the 2nd qtr, or early part of 3rd qtr. By mid 3rd quarter, all ku fans are leaving, the ones remaining are despondent and unresponsive. Yeah, a great atmosphere. Face it, Memorial Stadium, like it's fanbase, blows.
funny how this sorta sounds like ksu basketball games.
Its a hobby sport that no one gives a eff about so, pretty much.
I guess that's what football is to KU then, a hobby sport.
DERRR, ya think?
DERRRRRRR CARTMAN!!!
KSU = confy champs in basketball...when's the last time ku could say that about football? Has it happened in your lifetime? Your father's lifetime? Your grandfather's lifetime? KSU basketball is several planes higher in quality than is ku football.
when's the last time ksu won a bowl game? KU has won 3 since KSU's last bowl win. KU football is several planes higher than ksu football.
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Have been to quite a few football games at Memorial. Pregame sucks, all the "parties" are fragmented among the slums surrounding Memorial Stadium. Then you get to the game, and the fans are disengaged, except to complain about officiating--this usually lasts into the 2nd qtr, or early part of 3rd qtr. By mid 3rd quarter, all ku fans are leaving, the ones remaining are despondent and unresponsive. Yeah, a great atmosphere. Face it, Memorial Stadium, like it's fanbase, blows.
funny how this sorta sounds like ksu basketball games.
Its a hobby sport that no one gives a eff about so, pretty much.
I guess that's what football is to KU then, a hobby sport.
DERRR, ya think?
DERRRRRRR CARTMAN!!!
KSU = confy champs in basketball...when's the last time ku could say that about football? Has it happened in your lifetime? Your father's lifetime? Your grandfather's lifetime? KSU basketball is several planes higher in quality than is ku football.
when's the last time ksu won a bowl game? KU has won 3 since KSU's last bowl win. KU football is several planes higher than ksu football.
And he is back to recycling one of the only 3 rough ridin' posts he has. I mean crap Tim, you've posted here enough that you should have improved some. There have been some goddamn terrible posters here but for 1200 posts you are by far the rough ridin' worst. Have some pride
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Have been to quite a few football games at Memorial. Pregame sucks, all the "parties" are fragmented among the slums surrounding Memorial Stadium. Then you get to the game, and the fans are disengaged, except to complain about officiating--this usually lasts into the 2nd qtr, or early part of 3rd qtr. By mid 3rd quarter, all ku fans are leaving, the ones remaining are despondent and unresponsive. Yeah, a great atmosphere. Face it, Memorial Stadium, like it's fanbase, blows.
funny how this sorta sounds like ksu basketball games.
Its a hobby sport that no one gives a eff about so, pretty much.
I guess that's what football is to KU then, a hobby sport.
DERRR, ya think?
DERRRRRRR CARTMAN!!!
KSU = confy champs in basketball...when's the last time ku could say that about football? Has it happened in your lifetime? Your father's lifetime? Your grandfather's lifetime? KSU basketball is several planes higher in quality than is ku football.
when's the last time ksu won a bowl game? KU has won 3 since KSU's last bowl win. KU football is several planes higher than ksu football.
And he is back to recycling one of the only 3 rough ridin' posts he has. I mean crap Tim, you've posted here enough that you should have improved some. There have been some goddamn terrible posters here but for 1200 posts you are by far the rough ridin' worst. Have some pride
I take pride in being the worst poster on goEMAW.
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KU football is several planes higher than ksu football. - timhawk
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You could not be more wrong, Tim
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You jokester, you! :lol:
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KU football is several planes higher than ksu football. - timhawk
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You could not be more wrong, Tim
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You jokester, you! :lol:
really? I was being completely serious :facepalm:
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you dum dum
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This is why KU football is so pathetic.
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Beems is so butthurt that BSFS is so much nicer than Memorial. Anyone who tries to convince people that Memorial is better than BSFS is pathetic.
What is wrong with having the stadium surrounded by parking lots? It creates a a great tailgating atmosphere that KU can't even come close to competing with.
have u ever tailgated at a KU game at Memorial? the streets nearby have parties going on at everybody's house, it's awesome. if I want to tailgate in a big asphalt parking lot I'll go do it at arrowhead.
I stopped by one of those parties and found 3 girls locked up in the basement like that Cleveland thing. Cops looked the other way. It was creepy and weird. Don't stop by those places in less you want someone to cut you up and ware your flesh. :frown: :truestory:
:D
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KU football is several planes higher than ksu football. - timhawk
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You could not be more wrong, Tim
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You jokester, you! :lol:
really? I was being completely serious :facepalm:
The best part about having pneumonia was not reading your posts.
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KU football is several planes higher than ksu football. - timhawk
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You could not be more wrong, Tim
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You jokester, you! :lol:
really? I was being completely serious :facepalm:
The best part about having pneumonia was not reading your posts.
you can't read if you have pneumonia?
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how come no one brought up that bowl win statistic before? 1st i've heard about it anyway...
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Beems is so butthurt that BSFS is so much nicer than Memorial. Anyone who tries to convince people that Memorial is better than BSFS is pathetic.
What is wrong with having the stadium surrounded by parking lots? It creates a a great tailgating atmosphere that KU can't even come close to competing with.
have u ever tailgated at a KU game at Memorial? the streets nearby have parties going on at everybody's house, it's awesome. if I want to tailgate in a big asphalt parking lot I'll go do it at arrowhead.
I stopped by one of those parties and found 3 girls locked up in the basement like that Cleveland thing. Cops looked the other way. It was creepy and weird. Don't stop by those places in less you want someone to cut you up and ware your flesh. :frown: :truestory:
:D
:D
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Why do all KU fans think a few house parties around Memorial is tailgating? It's not at all.
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Why do all KU fans think a few house parties around Memorial is tailgating? It's not at all.
we leave the jacked up 4x4s to Kstate
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Why do all KU fans think a few house parties around Memorial is tailgating? It's not at all.
we leave the jacked up 4x4s to Kstate
i love jacked up 4x4s :love:
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Why do all KU fans think a few house parties around Memorial is tailgating? It's not at all.
we leave the jacked up 4x4s to Kstate
This jacked up 4x4 has a ku window sticker though...
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi76.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj11%2Fwildcatjerrod%2FKSUTailgaiting.jpg&hash=291a6856bde02b4c6ce15d54c8030fa63c240a19)
:emawkid:
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God. Such a rough ridin' Bookie Pimp thing to post. :flush:
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God. Such a rough ridin' Bookie Pimp thing to post. :flush:
:powerespect:
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I'm not sure you really know how to use that symbol.
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It was appropriately applied in this instance.
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God. Such a rough ridin' Bookie Pimp thing to post. :flush:
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Why do all KU fans think a few house parties around Memorial is tailgating? It's not at all.
we leave the jacked up 4x4s to Kstate
This jacked up 4x4 has a ku window sticker though...
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi76.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj11%2Fwildcatjerrod%2FKSUTailgaiting.jpg&hash=291a6856bde02b4c6ce15d54c8030fa63c240a19)
:emawkid:
Are those girls pissing on the roof of that truck? Wouldn't it get all over their shoes and so forth? I like it better when they just flash their tits.
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Why do all KU fans think a few house parties around Memorial is tailgating? It's not at all.
we leave the jacked up 4x4s to Kstate
This jacked up 4x4 has a ku window sticker though...
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi76.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj11%2Fwildcatjerrod%2FKSUTailgaiting.jpg&hash=291a6856bde02b4c6ce15d54c8030fa63c240a19)
:emawkid:
Are those girls pissing on the roof of that truck? Wouldn't it get all over their shoes and so forth? I like it better when they just flash their tits.
such classy ladies..... :emawkid:
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Why do all KU fans think a few house parties around Memorial is tailgating? It's not at all.
we leave the jacked up 4x4s to Kstate
This jacked up 4x4 has a ku window sticker though...
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi76.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj11%2Fwildcatjerrod%2FKSUTailgaiting.jpg&hash=291a6856bde02b4c6ce15d54c8030fa63c240a19)
:emawkid:
Are those girls pissing on the roof of that truck? Wouldn't it get all over their shoes and so forth? I like it better when they just flash their tits.
such classy ladies..... :emawkid:
They seem like the type of girls that would love a guy who strips plywood off the bottom of bridges. :thumbs:
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Why do all KU fans think a few house parties around Memorial is tailgating? It's not at all.
we leave the jacked up 4x4s to Kstate
This jacked up 4x4 has a ku window sticker though...
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi76.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj11%2Fwildcatjerrod%2FKSUTailgaiting.jpg&hash=291a6856bde02b4c6ce15d54c8030fa63c240a19)
:emawkid:
Are those girls pissing on the roof of that truck? Wouldn't it get all over their shoes and so forth? I like it better when they just flash their tits.
such classy ladies..... :emawkid:
They seem like the type of girls that would love a guy who strips plywood off the bottom of bridges. :thumbs:
and then takes your girl out for supper while you're stuck at home babysitting your mom
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:confused:
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SundancePoundSterlingKid fact: I don't date women that eat "supper."
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SundancePoundSterlingKid fact: I don't date women that eat "supper."
you only date women that graze?
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SundancePoundSterlingKid fact: I don't date women that eat "supper."
you only date women that graze?
You're an ugly person and I have no idea what you look like.
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goEMAW is just absolutely being eaten alive by this lousy timhawk guy. unreal.
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So is this the source of all the bitterness on both sides of this argument?
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2006/nov/20/kstate_bus_riders_hit_overpass/
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fantastically butthurt discussion on BSFS vs Memorial from the resident football tailgating/stadium experts over at phog dot net:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=11733813&p=1
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Memorial Stadium is great! Only thing that sucks is the parking - you have to leave during the 3rd quarter or else you'll be stuck for hours...
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Memorial Stadium is great! Only thing that sucks is the parking - you have to leave during the 3rd quarter or else you'll be stuck for hours...
How long could it possibly take 200 people to leave a parking lot?
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Memorial Stadium is great! Only thing that sucks is the parking - you have to leave during the 3rd quarter or else you'll be stuck for hours...
Traffic should be cleared out by then since most folks leave at, or before, halftime.
:dubious:
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Really good stuff.
One thing for sure, I wouldn't want to traverse a student slum to find my way to a football stadium.
That's really what sets places like Georgia, Clemson and UNC apart from ku. Their stadiums are surrounded by the academic setting on all sides, yet are tucked away in such a way that from multiple sides you don't even know it's there until you're right on top of it, and all of those stadiums, particularly the case with Georgia and Clemson which are much larger than ku's memorial.
All ku AD's have to play the "we don't want to mess with the setting" game because that's what phogtucks want to hear. Pull the same AD aside and ask them if they want to make 7 figures cash money every year selling parking spots and they'll sign up for that all day every day and twice on Sunday.
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Memorial Stadium is great! Only thing that sucks is the parking - you have to leave during the 3rd quarter or else you'll be stuck for hours...
We had no problems if you dont mind walking across campus back to the Phog area where they had us tailgate....
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Memorial Stadium is great! Only thing that sucks is the parking - you have to leave during the 3rd quarter or else you'll be stuck for hours...
We had no problems if you dont mind walking across campus back to the Phog area where they had us tailgate....
nice campus, tho
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KU punching back with some renovations of their own
http://www.sportspickle.com/2013/08/kansas-jayhawks-unveil-new-4000-football-facility-featuring-two-bowflex-machines
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I didn't know where to put this and may have been luked a long time ago but...
http://www.kuathletics.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=269&path=football
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I didn't know where to put this and may have been luked a long time ago but...
http://www.kuathletics.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=269&path=football
:sdeek:
:sdeek:
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:horrorsurprise:
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i am flabbergasted
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this is the wrong thread for this. the big train, start a thread about this.
it could be an all-timer.
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fantastically butthurt discussion on BSFS vs Memorial from the resident football tailgating/stadium experts over at phog dot net:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=11733813&p=1
Here's what they're doing. There's no doubt that it will look very nice when done. It's going to provide more premium seating and suites, which will be good for revenue.
However, it does nothing for the basic seating in the stadium, and it certainly can't do anything for the location of the stadium.
If KU spends comparable money for a Memorial renovation, I certainly would believe that the money would result in a better overall stadium than we have right now. This renovation certainly spruces the stadium up, but for the people who sit down in the seats, other than maybe some better concessions/councourses, it doesn't do much. Then again, it's probably not meant to.
This guys is on to us. He knows exactly what we are doing :ohno:
Except for the part about the WSC adding 2,000 or so new seats
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Say what you want about Memorial Stadium, but they are undefeated there in the year 2013.
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Say what you want about Memorial Stadium, but they are undefeated there in the year 2013.
W1
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I know it's Bleacher Report's stadium rankings, but:
KSU 35 :love:
Memorial 98 :embarrassed:
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What stadiums are left with a track now? KU and Emporia State?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQ__g7VCEAEiVOd.jpg:large)
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Taking the track out doesn't really fix the small timeyness of it.
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A black Harley track would really make it big time, imo.
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posting again because ultimately this is what will happen. still seems incredibly small timey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEwCZiAKa0A
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What stadiums are left with a track now? KU and Emporia State?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQ__g7VCEAEiVOd.jpg:large)
Ok - I'm an architectural moron...but how did they do that? Completely re-do the lower bowl with more seating and/or a more gradual slope?
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A black Harley track would really make it big time, imo.
It would be a start. Its currently a joke
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posting again because ultimately this is what will happen. still seems incredibly small timey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEwCZiAKa0A
I'm almost 100% sure that KU will add an additional set of suites to the East side of the stadium and spruce up the facade a little bit. Zenger and BGL have done an amazing job with everything they've touched so far. I couldn't be happier with the direction they're taking KU.
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What stadiums are left with a track now? KU and Emporia State?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQ__g7VCEAEiVOd.jpg:large)
Ok - I'm an architectural moron...but how did they do that? Completely re-do the lower bowl with more seating and/or a more gradual slope?
They tore everything down except for the upper level and roof on one side, did a complete rebuild of the lower bowl and other side levels/roof to be similar as before. Took awhile and I believe they played a season or 2 in the Seahawks stadium while the construction was ongoing.
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posting again because ultimately this is what will happen. still seems incredibly small timey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEwCZiAKa0A
I'm almost 100% sure that KU will add an additional set of suites to the East side of the stadium and spruce up the facade a little bit. Zenger and BGL have done an amazing job with everything they've touched so far. I couldn't be happier with the direction they're taking KU.
which direction is that? only thing i know that has happened so far is a crap ton of shredded paper
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fworldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2008%2F04%2F03%2FKU_Perkins_cigar_t640.jpg%3Fa6ea3ebd4438a44b86d2e9c39ecf7613005fe067&hash=64f755ee8c139d1de66da626e80e804ec6f4015d)
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Ok - I'm an architectural moron...but how did they do that? Completely re-do the lower bowl with more seating and/or a more gradual slope?
They tore everything down except for the upper level and roof on one side, did a complete rebuild of the lower bowl and other side levels/roof to be similar as before. Took awhile and I believe they played a season or 2 in the Seahawks stadium while the construction was ongoing.
this
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washington.edu%2Falumni%2Fcolumns%2Fmar12%2Fimages%2Fwinwin.jpg&hash=be843933e97527357124cd802112381b7747c6ba)
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posting again because ultimately this is what will happen. still seems incredibly small timey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEwCZiAKa0A
I'm almost 100% sure that KU will add an additional set of suites to the East side of the stadium and spruce up the facade a little bit. Zenger and BGL have done an amazing job with everything they've touched so far. I couldn't be happier with the direction they're taking KU.
which direction is that? only thing i know that has happened so far is a crap ton of shredded paper
The direction is up. Way up. Under BGL's watch, KU has increased admission standards well above any other university in the state, and is currently in the middle of a $1.2 billion "Far Above" fundraising campaign ($612 million had already been pledged by the time they announced the campaign). New business and engineering buildings are currently being constructed, and the campus is also going to add a canopy of elm trees down Jayhawk Boulevard. The med center continues to expand and add new medical facilities as well.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fworldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2013%2F04%2F05%2FBlvdRendering_t640.jpg&hash=ce73f64850573e9d52c59262de8b9b233aec9a6f)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kuphysicians.com%2FImages%2Fmob3.jpg&hash=8d5f0afab6b954bffe65a2e7eb19c27f944688da)
As for athletics, KU hoops continues its best run in school history. Bill Self is arguably the best coach in college basketball and just continues to dominate. KU also added a national title last year in track and field, and is currently building a multi-million dollar olympic sports complex. The women's basketball team is coming off its second straight Sweet Sixteen appearance and has really improved over the past few years. Aside from football (which is going to be improved next year as well), KU athletics has really been having quite a bit of success. Once Weis gets his recruits, and the football stadium is finally renovated, KU is going to really have quite the setup. By that time, Snyder will probably already be retired, Weber will have destroyed K-State's basketball program, and 'taters will go back to being irrelevant again.
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The direction is up. Way up. Under BGL's watch, KU has increased admission standards well above any other university in the state, and is currently in the middle of a $1.2 billion "Far Above" fundraising campaign ($612 million had already been pledged by the time they announced the campaign). New business and engineering buildings are currently being constructed, and the campus is also going to add a canopy of elm trees down Jayhawk Boulevard. The med center continues to expand and add new medical facilities as well.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fworldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2013%2F04%2F05%2FBlvdRendering_t640.jpg&hash=ce73f64850573e9d52c59262de8b9b233aec9a6f)
As for athletics, KU hoops continues its best run in school history. Bill Self is arguably the best coach in college basketball and just continues to dominate. KU also added a national title last year in track and field, and is currently building a multi-million dollar olympic sports complex. The women's basketball team is coming off its second straight Sweet Sixteen appearance and has really improved over the past few years. Aside from football (which is going to be improved next year as well), KU athletics has really been having quite a bit of success. Once Weis gets his recruits, and the football stadium is finally renovated, KU is going to really have quite the setup. By that time, Snyder will probably already be retired, Weber will have destroyed K-State's basketball program, and 'taters will go back to being irrelevant.
jesus. do they not care about the citizens of Lawrence?
PS - make sure they aren't piss elms.
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posting again because ultimately this is what will happen. still seems incredibly small timey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEwCZiAKa0A
I'm almost 100% sure that KU will add an additional set of suites to the East side of the stadium and spruce up the facade a little bit. Zenger and BGL have done an amazing job with everything they've touched so far. I couldn't be happier with the direction they're taking KU.
which direction is that? only thing i know that has happened so far is a crap ton of shredded paper
The direction is up. Way up. Under BGL's watch, KU has increased admission standards well above any other university in the state, and is currently in the middle of a $1.2 billion "Far Above" fundraising campaign ($612 million had already been pledged by the time they announced the campaign). New business and engineering buildings are currently being constructed, and the campus is also going to add a canopy of elm trees down Jayhawk Boulevard. The med center continues to expand and add new medical facilities as well.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fworldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2013%2F04%2F05%2FBlvdRendering_t640.jpg&hash=ce73f64850573e9d52c59262de8b9b233aec9a6f)
As for athletics, KU hoops continues its best run in school history. Bill Self is arguably the best coach in college basketball and just continues to dominate. KU also added a national title last year in track and field, and is currently building a multi-million dollar olympic sports complex. The women's basketball team is coming off its second straight Sweet Sixteen appearance and has really improved over the past few years. Aside from football (which is going to be improved next year as well), KU athletics has really been having quite a bit of success. Once Weis gets his recruits, and the football stadium is finally renovated, KU is going to really have quite the setup. By that time, Snyder will probably already be retired, Weber will have destroyed K-State's basketball program, and 'taters will go back to being irrelevant.
What exactly have they raised?
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BTW, Webber >>> Weis :gocho:
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posting again because ultimately this is what will happen. still seems incredibly small timey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEwCZiAKa0A
I'm almost 100% sure that KU will add an additional set of suites to the East side of the stadium and spruce up the facade a little bit. Zenger and BGL have done an amazing job with everything they've touched so far. I couldn't be happier with the direction they're taking KU.
which direction is that? only thing i know that has happened so far is a crap ton of shredded paper
football (which is going to be improved next year as well), KU athletics has really been having quite a bit of success. Once Weis gets his recruits, and the football stadium is finally renovated, KU is going to really have quite the setup.
Do you see why we take opinions from ku fans on most matters with laughter and knee slapping? You completely dodged my question with some drawings and talk of women's track. Football is the only part we care about beems, the rest of that post is fodder and bullshit and we have seperate boards for that.
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http://fox4kc.com/2012/06/20/regents-approve-tougher-admissions-standards-for-ku/ (http://fox4kc.com/2012/06/20/regents-approve-tougher-admissions-standards-for-ku/)
LAWRENCE, Kan. — Tougher admission requirements are coming to University of Kansas. The Kansas Board of Regents today voted to raise admission standards at K.U. higher than those at the state’s other public colleges. The change is designed to boost graduation rates at the state’s flagship university.
In four years when this takes effect, incoming freshmen will need at least a 3.0 GPA or “B” average in high school to automatically get into K.U.
“It certainly raises rigor and expectations,” said Mary Viveros, implementation coach at Kansas City, Kansas public schools. “But we know that’s what it takes. Making it any easier doesn’t really help in the long run.”
On the K.U. campus new students are getting familiar with college life as part of orientation month. Peer adviser Kyle Boge says some freshmen just aren’t ready for the transition.
“There’s a lot of questions about how tough will this class be,” said Boge, a sophomore from Olathe. “If I’m in this thousand person class how is that going to work out? But really you can, if you’re motivated you can get through it and transition,” he said.
More than 20 percent of K.U. freshmen drop out during their first year. Regents believe requiring at least a 3.0 grade point average and ACT score of 24 will help eliminate putting students in positions where they fail.
“I think improving the university starts with the freshman experience and maintaining students for all four years is something that’s good for us,” said Marcus Tetwiler, a K.U. student from Paola.
Right now, there is no grade point average requirement to get into any Kansas college. Being in the top third of your high school class with an ACT score of 21 is all it takes. In the Kansas City, Kansas School District, only about a quarter of the graduates score at least 21 on that college entrance exam.
“It really is not only GPA but ACT score that’s a pretty good indicator of how well kids will do in school,” Viveros explained. “We really aligned ourselves with those ACT standards and college readiness benchmarks. That will be important to ensure kids will have skills when they get there.”
Prospective students who don’t meet the tougher standards can still have their applications reviewed by a committee. Students say help has always been available for those who are struggling.
“There are students that aren’t interested in that,” said recent K.U. graduate Sarah Coughlan. “They’re here to socialize or think they can not show up for class and just take the test, that’s not a strategy that works.”
The regents also voted to raise tuition by 5.1 percent for undergraduates at K.U.
Tuition will increase by 5.5 percent at Kansas State University.
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If there is one thing that has been proven about Weis it's that once he gets his recruits in that's when his program really takes off.
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The regents also voted to raise tuition by 5.1 percent for undergraduates at K.U.
Tuition will increase by 5.5 percent at Kansas State University.
:kstategrad:
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'taters
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posting again because ultimately this is what will happen. still seems incredibly small timey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEwCZiAKa0A
I'm almost 100% sure that KU will add an additional set of suites to the East side of the stadium and spruce up the facade a little bit. Zenger and BGL have done an amazing job with everything they've touched so far. I couldn't be happier with the direction they're taking KU.
which direction is that? only thing i know that has happened so far is a crap ton of shredded paper
The direction is up. Way up. Under BGL's watch, KU has increased admission standards well above any other university in the state, and is currently in the middle of a $1.2 billion "Far Above" fundraising campaign ($612 million had already been pledged by the time they announced the campaign). New business and engineering buildings are currently being constructed, and the campus is also going to add a canopy of elm trees down Jayhawk Boulevard. The med center continues to expand and add new medical facilities as well.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fworldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2013%2F04%2F05%2FBlvdRendering_t640.jpg&hash=ce73f64850573e9d52c59262de8b9b233aec9a6f)
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As for athletics, KU hoops continues its best run in school history. Bill Self is arguably the best coach in college basketball and just continues to dominate. KU also added a national title last year in track and field, and is currently building a multi-million dollar olympic sports complex. The women's basketball team is coming off its second straight Sweet Sixteen appearance and has really improved over the past few years. Aside from football (which is going to be improved next year as well), KU athletics has really been having quite a bit of success. Once Weis gets his recruits, and the football stadium is finally renovated, KU is going to really have quite the setup. By that time, Snyder will probably already be retired, Weber will have destroyed K-State's basketball program, and 'taters will go back to being irrelevant again.
Your FB renovations aren't even in the works. Weis will be fired/retired by the time it even has a chance to start, with no money and lots of apathy I wouldn't get my hopes up.
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posting again because ultimately this is what will happen. still seems incredibly small timey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEwCZiAKa0A
I'm almost 100% sure that KU will add an additional set of suites to the East side of the stadium and spruce up the facade a little bit. Zenger and BGL have done an amazing job with everything they've touched so far. I couldn't be happier with the direction they're taking KU.
which direction is that? only thing i know that has happened so far is a crap ton of shredded paper
football (which is going to be improved next year as well), KU athletics has really been having quite a bit of success. Once Weis gets his recruits, and the football stadium is finally renovated, KU is going to really have quite the setup.
Do you see why we take opinions from ku fans on most matters with laughter and knee slapping? You completely dodged my question with some drawings and talk of women's track. Football is the only part we care about beems, the rest of that post is fodder and bullshit and we have seperate boards for that.
I care about football too, and every indication is that KU will have an improved football team next year. There's no sense in worrying about last year's pile of crap when we're about a month away from the upcoming season. Anyone throwing the towel in on Weis after one year is an idiot. Snyder went 1-10 in his first year at K-State.
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When Kansas University athletic director Sheahon Zenger someday decides to give Memorial Stadium a makeover, it won’t be at the request of new football coach Charlie Weis....
pretty much isnt happening for at least 5 years. and by that time ku could be in the MAC
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http://fox4kc.com/2012/06/20/regents-approve-tougher-admissions-standards-for-ku/ (http://fox4kc.com/2012/06/20/regents-approve-tougher-admissions-standards-for-ku/)
More than 20 percent of K.U. freshmen drop out during their first year. Regents believe requiring at least a 3.0 grade point average and ACT score of 24 will help eliminate putting students in positions where they fail.
All in efforts to solve a drop out problem. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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If there is one thing that has been proven about Weis it's that once he gets his recruits in that's when his program really takes off.
The funny thing is that last year's Notre Dame team that went to the national championship was made up of a lot of former Weis recruits (including Manti Teo).
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When Kansas University athletic director Sheahon Zenger someday decides to give Memorial Stadium a makeover, it won’t be at the request of new football coach Charlie Weis....
pretty much isnt happening for at least 5 years. and by that time ku could be in the big 10
fyp
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If there is one thing that has been proven about Weis it's that once he gets his recruits in that's when his program really takes off.
The funny thing is that last year's Notre Dame team that went to the national championship was made up of a lot of former Weis recruits (including Manti Teo).
That is funny.
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posting again because ultimately this is what will happen. still seems incredibly small timey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEwCZiAKa0A
I'm almost 100% sure that KU will add an additional set of suites to the East side of the stadium and spruce up the facade a little bit. Zenger and BGL have done an amazing job with everything they've touched so far. I couldn't be happier with the direction they're taking KU.
which direction is that? only thing i know that has happened so far is a crap ton of shredded paper
football (which is going to be improved next year as well), KU athletics has really been having quite a bit of success. Once Weis gets his recruits, and the football stadium is finally renovated, KU is going to really have quite the setup.
Do you see why we take opinions from ku fans on most matters with laughter and knee slapping? You completely dodged my question with some drawings and talk of women's track. Football is the only part we care about beems, the rest of that post is fodder and bullshit and we have seperate boards for that.
I care about football too, and every indication is that KU will have an improved football team next year. There's no sense in worrying about last year's pile of crap when we're about a month away from the upcoming season. Anyone throwing the towel in on Weis after one year is an idiot. Snyder went 1-10 in his first year at K-State.
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i dont care about last year either ben, you keep saying things are on the up and up. all im saying is prove it. tell me something, anything relevant to memorial stadium and renovations. at this point just let it die like the gridiron club or produce something other than pictures of ku's new track and field complex (which we couldnt give two fucks about) about 20k+ of us will be there again this year and i would like to tell my kids "dont worry next time we come back it will be a decent place for a game"
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http://fox4kc.com/2012/06/20/regents-approve-tougher-admissions-standards-for-ku/ (http://fox4kc.com/2012/06/20/regents-approve-tougher-admissions-standards-for-ku/)
More than 20 percent of K.U. freshmen drop out during their first year. Regents believe requiring at least a 3.0 grade point average and ACT score of 24 will help eliminate putting students in positions where they fail.
All in efforts to solve a drop out problem. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Meanwhile, K-State continues to recruit any ol' 'tater who can walk and chew gum at the same time.
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The regents also voted to raise tuition by 5.1 percent for undergraduates at K.U.
Tuition will increase by 5.5 percent at Kansas State University.
:kstategrad:
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If there is one thing that has been proven about Weis it's that once he gets his recruits in that's when his program really takes off.
The funny thing is that last year's Notre Dame team that went to the national championship was made up of a lot of former Weis recruits (including Manti Teo).
So your next coach is going to be awesome! :excited:
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'tater
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http://fox4kc.com/2012/06/20/regents-approve-tougher-admissions-standards-for-ku/ (http://fox4kc.com/2012/06/20/regents-approve-tougher-admissions-standards-for-ku/)
More than 20 percent of K.U. freshmen drop out during their first year. Regents believe requiring at least a 3.0 grade point average and ACT score of 24 will help eliminate putting students in positions where they fail.
All in efforts to solve a drop out problem. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Meanwhile, K-State continues to recruit any ol' 'tater who can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Are the enrollment numbers for this fall available yet?
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http://fox4kc.com/2012/06/20/regents-approve-tougher-admissions-standards-for-ku/ (http://fox4kc.com/2012/06/20/regents-approve-tougher-admissions-standards-for-ku/)
More than 20 percent of K.U. freshmen drop out during their first year. Regents believe requiring at least a 3.0 grade point average and ACT score of 24 will help eliminate putting students in positions where they fail.
All in efforts to solve a drop out problem. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Meanwhile, K-State continues to recruit any ol' 'tater who can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Are the enrollment numbers for this fall available yet?
probably not, heard there was a shortage of juicy fruit at all of the MHK dara's
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posting again because ultimately this is what will happen. still seems incredibly small timey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEwCZiAKa0A
I'm almost 100% sure that KU will add an additional set of suites to the East side of the stadium and spruce up the facade a little bit. Zenger and BGL have done an amazing job with everything they've touched so far. I couldn't be happier with the direction they're taking KU.
which direction is that? only thing i know that has happened so far is a crap ton of shredded paper
football (which is going to be improved next year as well), KU athletics has really been having quite a bit of success. Once Weis gets his recruits, and the football stadium is finally renovated, KU is going to really have quite the setup.
Do you see why we take opinions from ku fans on most matters with laughter and knee slapping? You completely dodged my question with some drawings and talk of women's track. Football is the only part we care about beems, the rest of that post is fodder and bullshit and we have seperate boards for that.
I care about football too, and every indication is that KU will have an improved football team next year. There's no sense in worrying about last year's pile of crap when we're about a month away from the upcoming season. Anyone throwing the towel in on Weis after one year is an idiot. Snyder went 1-10 in his first year at K-State.
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i dont care about last year either ben, you keep saying things are on the up and up. all im saying is prove it. tell me something, anything relevant to memorial stadium and renovations. at this point just let it die like the gridiron club or produce something other than pictures of ku's new track and field complex (which we couldnt give two fucks about) about 20k+ of us will be there again this year and i would like to tell my kids "dont worry next time we come back it will be a decent place for a game"
If I don't know you, or you're too much of a pussy to disclose your name to me personally, then you don't get to address me by my real name. As for Memorial Stadium, if you can't enjoy a football game there, you're a total dork. I've had multiple friends from K-State and other schools visit for a football game at KU, and everyone always has a great time (win or lose).
The reason I address the track complex is because it ties directly into the plans for the football stadium. KU has a nationally ranked and relevant track program (unlike K-State), and we host the Kansas Relays at Memorial Stadium, so until the new complex is finished, that's just the way it works. Kinda like how K-State hosts Harley Day at BSFS, so you guys have a black Harley track that supports the Harley riders.
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Careful on that Canopy of Elms, thing. Dutch Elm disease can be a real bitch.
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http://fox4kc.com/2012/06/20/regents-approve-tougher-admissions-standards-for-ku/ (http://fox4kc.com/2012/06/20/regents-approve-tougher-admissions-standards-for-ku/)
LAWRENCE, Kan. — Tougher admission requirements are coming to University of Kansas. The Kansas Board of Regents today voted to raise admission standards at K.U. higher than those at the state’s other public colleges. The change is designed to boost graduation rates at the state’s flagship university.
In four years when this takes effect, incoming freshmen will need at least a 3.0 GPA or “B” average in high school to automatically get into K.U.
“It certainly raises rigor and expectations,” said Mary Viveros, implementation coach at Kansas City, Kansas public schools. “But we know that’s what it takes. Making it any easier doesn’t really help in the long run.”
On the K.U. campus new students are getting familiar with college life as part of orientation month. Peer adviser Kyle Boge says some freshmen just aren’t ready for the transition.
“There’s a lot of questions about how tough will this class be,” said Boge, a sophomore from Olathe. “If I’m in this thousand person class how is that going to work out? But really you can, if you’re motivated you can get through it and transition,” he said.
More than 20 percent of K.U. freshmen drop out during their first year. Regents believe requiring at least a 3.0 grade point average and ACT score of 24 will help eliminate putting students in positions where they fail.
“I think improving the university starts with the freshman experience and maintaining students for all four years is something that’s good for us,” said Marcus Tetwiler, a K.U. student from Paola.
Right now, there is no grade point average requirement to get into any Kansas college. Being in the top third of your high school class with an ACT score of 21 is all it takes. In the Kansas City, Kansas School District, only about a quarter of the graduates score at least 21 on that college entrance exam.
“It really is not only GPA but ACT score that’s a pretty good indicator of how well kids will do in school,” Viveros explained. “We really aligned ourselves with those ACT standards and college readiness benchmarks. That will be important to ensure kids will have skills when they get there.”
Prospective students who don’t meet the tougher standards can still have their applications reviewed by a committee. Students say help has always been available for those who are struggling.
“There are students that aren’t interested in that,” said recent K.U. graduate Sarah Coughlan. “They’re here to socialize or think they can not show up for class and just take the test, that’s not a strategy that works.”
The regents also voted to raise tuition by 5.1 percent for undergraduates at K.U.
Tuition will increase by 5.5 percent at Kansas State University.
Paola a 4A Kansas high school, the town where that ku student is from, also has a track around their football field.
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National championship track >>> black Harley track
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If I don't know you, or you're too much of a pussy to disclose your name to me personally, then you don't get to address me by my real name.
agree w/ BMW here. i really don't understand why you would choose to address him my his name but it's rough ridin' weird
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If I don't know you, or you're too much of a pussy to disclose your name to me personally, then you don't get to address me by my real name. As for Memorial Stadium, if you can't enjoy a football game there, you're a total dork. I've had multiple friends from K-State and other schools visit for a football game at KU, and everyone always has a great time (win or lose).
The reason I address the track complex is because it ties directly into the plans for the football stadium. KU has a nationally ranked and relevant track program (unlike K-State), and we host the Kansas Relays at Memorial Stadium, so until the new complex is finished, that's just the way it works. Kinda like how K-State hosts Harley Day at BSFS, so you guys have a black Harley track that supports the Harley riders.
We are both ranked! :high five:
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/trackfield-outdoor-men/d1
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posting again because ultimately this is what will happen. still seems incredibly small timey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEwCZiAKa0A
I'm almost 100% sure that KU will add an additional set of suites to the East side of the stadium and spruce up the facade a little bit. Zenger and BGL have done an amazing job with everything they've touched so far. I couldn't be happier with the direction they're taking KU.
which direction is that? only thing i know that has happened so far is a crap ton of shredded paper
football (which is going to be improved next year as well), KU athletics has really been having quite a bit of success. Once Weis gets his recruits, and the football stadium is finally renovated, KU is going to really have quite the setup.
Do you see why we take opinions from ku fans on most matters with laughter and knee slapping? You completely dodged my question with some drawings and talk of women's track. Football is the only part we care about beems, the rest of that post is fodder and bullshit and we have seperate boards for that.
I care about football too, and every indication is that KU will have an improved football team next year. There's no sense in worrying about last year's pile of crap when we're about a month away from the upcoming season. Anyone throwing the towel in on Weis after one year is an idiot. Snyder went 1-10 in his first year at K-State.
:dunno:
i dont care about last year either ben, you keep saying things are on the up and up. all im saying is prove it. tell me something, anything relevant to memorial stadium and renovations. at this point just let it die like the gridiron club or produce something other than pictures of ku's new track and field complex (which we couldnt give two fucks about) about 20k+ of us will be there again this year and i would like to tell my kids "dont worry next time we come back it will be a decent place for a game"
If I don't know you, or you're too much of a pussy to disclose your name to me personally, then you don't get to address me by my real name. As for Memorial Stadium, if you can't enjoy a football game there, you're a total dork. I've had multiple friends from K-State and other schools visit for a football game at KU, and everyone always has a great time (win or lose).
The reason I address the track complex is because it ties directly into the plans for the football stadium. KU has a nationally ranked and relevant track program (unlike K-State), and we host the Kansas Relays at Memorial Stadium, so until the new complex is finished, that's just the way it works. Kinda like how K-State hosts Harley Day at BSFS, so you guys have a black Harley track that supports the Harley riders.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cstvauctions.com%2Fimages%2Fauctions%2F136%2FHarley_PhotoA.jpg&hash=f69c968b133938fba329e60f4f128575cc6a693d)
thats all fine and great BMW I understand the reasoning for the wait but i thought you had already broken ground on the new track complex. are they waiting for it to be done before they even start planning on memorial? if so that is incredibly stupid
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National Championship Track
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Track complex as of 7/29/13:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQQ5V2uCcAAUrLf.jpg:large)
According to sources, KU has hired HNTB for its football stadium renovation.
Also, from phog.net:
I think this will be done in phases. Phase 1 lower field and add in seating. After talking to a couple of folks in the Williams Fund, what comes next will be interesting. I know they have looked at TCU, Minnesota, and Univ. of Washington recently. I think there will be the addition of a club level on the east side. Premium outdoor seating with an indoor area for gathering, food, drinks, etc. There has also been some talk of "loge" boxes as well. I've heard these from more than one person as well. Think of them as "mini-suites" 4-6 outdoor seats with a flat screen, wait staff. Check out Univ. of Minnesota's website for a look at those.
What will be interesting is the pricing/financing structure of any additions. The failed Gridiron Club was a financial disaster. There was no way that was ever going to work, even if we would have continued winning.
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Ben was kind of mean to Kody earlier, geez :frown:
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Ben was kind of mean to Kody earlier, geez :frown:
he was but thats okay, i edited it. apologies to beems. looking back that was weird
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According to sources, KU has hired HNTB for its football stadium renovation.
KU has hired HNTB for its master plan, not the stadium renovation. 2 separate things. I'll pm you next year when/if they begin the selection process for an architect for the reno.
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According to sources, KU has hired HNTB for its football stadium renovation.
KU has hired HNTB for its master plan, not the stadium renovation. 2 separate things. I'll pm you next year when/if they begin the selection process for an architect for the reno.
Sweet. Thanks.
By the way, for anyone who's interested, here are Dr. Zenger's 2012 comments on future Memorial Stadium upgrades:
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2012/jul/12/ku-ad-zenger-memorial-stadium-changes-coming-just-/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2012/jul/12/ku-ad-zenger-memorial-stadium-changes-coming-just-/)
“We will do something very special with Memorial Stadium,” Zenger said. “But we want to make sure we honor what we have, and we want to make sure we do it right, because we only get one chance.”
The point of contention for most includes removal of the track that surrounds Memorial Stadium’s playing surface. In order to do that, Zenger and company first need to complete the ongoing search for a new home for KU’s track programs. Until that is settled — something that seems to be drawing closer each month — nothing can or will be done to Memorial Stadium, Zenger said.
Even when that day arrives, Zenger made sure to emphasize that any changes to any of KU’s athletic facilities would be made with the idea of paying tribute to the past as a top priority.
“Our history is what makes us different at the University of Kansas,” Zenger said. “Whether it be our traditions or what we’ve done competitively, and whether it be in basketball, track and field or football, we have a rich, rich legacy at the University of Kansas. And we want to be very careful as we plan for the future that we always move forward without damaging that legacy.”
Zenger, who also made sure to point out that he and his department were excited about the possibilities and eager to get to work, compared the current Memorial Stadium conundrum to the uncertain future that faced the Jayhawks’ basketball facility not long ago.
“I think we would all regret had we, years ago, built some sort of coliseum or arena to replace Allen Fieldhouse,” he said. “And I also think we would regret doing anything to Memorial Stadium that does not maintain the significance of that stadium’s place in the history and lore of Kansas football and our commencement ceremonies. We have a historic stadium, and anything we do to that football stadium is going to honor what I think is one of the greatest locations in the nation for a football stadium. We have one of the true stadiums left in the Midwest.”
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The crap is a true stadium?
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Zenger is the Paul Rhodes of athletic directors. He knows exactly what to say for the fans to lap it up.
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Zenger with another Zinger! :lol:
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Maybe true stadium code for dumpy and outdated?
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Aside from the North endzone, Memorial Stadium's seats are just as close to the field as K-State's:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jayhawksfootballtickets.com%2Fimg%2Fvenues%2FMemorial%2520Stadium.jpg&hash=e6663bd961c40bf89c7d8305f033d452e9ae22d2)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbnarchitects.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2Feducation%2Flarge%2Fksu_football_1.jpg&hash=dbd01e83cf9c951dd6e7d0f53f8d7c17f7bd6b1d)
And yes, to the objective eye, Memorial Stadium's setting and location are way, way better.
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Aside from the North endzone, Memorial Stadium's seats are just as close to the field as K-State's:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jayhawksfootballtickets.com%2Fimg%2Fvenues%2FMemorial%2520Stadium.jpg&hash=e6663bd961c40bf89c7d8305f033d452e9ae22d2)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbnarchitects.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2Feducation%2Flarge%2Fksu_football_1.jpg&hash=dbd01e83cf9c951dd6e7d0f53f8d7c17f7bd6b1d)
And yes, to the objective eye, Memorial Stadium's setting and location are way, way better.
Nice picture of a full Memorial Stadium. Must have been from that one good year they had when they were self proclaimed Big 12 north champs. T-shirt fans were out in full effect.
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It is a great setting. One of the last true stadiums in the midwest.
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Aside from the North endzone, Memorial Stadium's seats are just as close to the field as K-State's:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jayhawksfootballtickets.com%2Fimg%2Fvenues%2FMemorial%2520Stadium.jpg&hash=e6663bd961c40bf89c7d8305f033d452e9ae22d2)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbnarchitects.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2Feducation%2Flarge%2Fksu_football_1.jpg&hash=dbd01e83cf9c951dd6e7d0f53f8d7c17f7bd6b1d)
And yes, to the objective eye, Memorial Stadium's setting and location are way, way better.
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/166945_2426326290924_1180090597_n.jpg)
4 rows up on the south side. i'd say its quite a bit different
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Aside from the North endzone 40% of the stadium, Memorial Stadium's seats are just as close to the field as K-State's:
fyp
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Aside from the North endzone, Memorial Stadium's seats are just as close to the field as K-State's:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jayhawksfootballtickets.com%2Fimg%2Fvenues%2FMemorial%2520Stadium.jpg&hash=e6663bd961c40bf89c7d8305f033d452e9ae22d2)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbnarchitects.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2Feducation%2Flarge%2Fksu_football_1.jpg&hash=dbd01e83cf9c951dd6e7d0f53f8d7c17f7bd6b1d)
And yes, to the objective eye, Memorial Stadium's setting and location are way, way better.
Nice picture of a full Memorial Stadium. Must have been from that one good year they had when they were self proclaimed Big 12 north champs. T-shirt fans were out in full effect.
Butthurt is as butthurt does.
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Aside from football (which is going to be improved next year as well), KU athletics has really been having quite a bit of success.
It's difficult not to improve on not winning one conference game a year, but that's been quite a struggle. :lol:
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KU has hired HNTB for its master plan, not the stadium renovation. 2 separate things. I'll pm you next year when/if they begin the selection process for an architect for the reno.
whoa whoa whoa, Belvis Noland. if what you're saying is true, that means phog dot net doesn't know what it's talking about! :runaway:
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I love how this thread takes another lap every week and it always ends with a bunch of pics from beems in his heyday as a blueberry.
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It's a constant battle for lil bro to keep up with big bro. When you don't have the goods, you talk a lot about all the stuff you're going to do when you grow up.
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to the objective eye, Memorial Stadium's setting and location are way, way better.
:lol: @ the idea of objectivity in sports or college campus talk.
:lol: @ the idea that a superior graduation setting means crap on a fall saturday.
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I love how this thread takes another lap every week and it always ends with a bunch of pics from beems in his heyday as a blueberry.
enjoyed this. great spelling too!
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posting again because ultimately this is what will happen. still seems incredibly small timey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEwCZiAKa0A
I'm almost 100% sure that KU will add an additional set of suites to the East side of the stadium and spruce up the facade a little bit. Zenger and BGL have done an amazing job with everything they've touched so far. I couldn't be happier with the direction they're taking KU.
which direction is that? only thing i know that has happened so far is a crap ton of shredded paper
football (which is going to be improved next year as well), KU athletics has really been having quite a bit of success. Once Weis gets his recruits, and the football stadium is finally renovated, KU is going to really have quite the setup.
Do you see why we take opinions from ku fans on most matters with laughter and knee slapping? You completely dodged my question with some drawings and talk of women's track. Football is the only part we care about beems, the rest of that post is fodder and bullshit and we have seperate boards for that.
I care about football too, and every indication is that KU will have an improved football team next year. There's no sense in worrying about last year's pile of crap when we're about a month away from the upcoming season. Anyone throwing the towel in on Weis after one year is an idiot. Snyder went 1-10 in his first year at K-State.
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i dont care about last year either ben, you keep saying things are on the up and up. all im saying is prove it. tell me something, anything relevant to memorial stadium and renovations. at this point just let it die like the gridiron club or produce something other than pictures of ku's new track and field complex (which we couldnt give two fucks about) about 20k+ of us will be there again this year and i would like to tell my kids "dont worry next time we come back it will be a decent place for a game"
If I don't know you, or you're too much of a pussy to disclose your name to me personally, then you don't get to address me by my real name. As for Memorial Stadium, if you can't enjoy a football game there, you're a total dork. I've had multiple friends from K-State and other schools visit for a football game at KU, and everyone always has a great time (win or lose).
The reason I address the track complex is because it ties directly into the plans for the football stadium. KU has a nationally ranked and relevant track program (unlike K-State), and we host the Kansas Relays at Memorial Stadium, so until the new complex is finished, that's just the way it works. Kinda like how K-State hosts Harley Day at BSFS, so you guys have a black Harley track that supports the Harley riders.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cstvauctions.com%2Fimages%2Fauctions%2F136%2FHarley_PhotoA.jpg&hash=f69c968b133938fba329e60f4f128575cc6a693d)
Love it when Beems uses this talking about.
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it's funny, because I have friends from KU that say that the stadium and team just suck and aren't worth caring about. these people are also all huge chiefs fans.
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I think KU would have a better football program if the Chiefs would just go away. The region just can't support 2 football teams.
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Setting and location are the stupidest KU talking point regarding stadium.
Location for KSU is as easy to get to as KU's.
You're at the stadium to watch the game, not the campus.
Besides, in bigtime stadiums, you can't see out unless on the upper deck (and you won't at BSFS when Vanier V2.0 is built. Yay!
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To the objective eye, BSFS is at least 90 times better than memorial.
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To the objective eye, BSFS is at least 90 times better than memorial.
You have friends that have always had a good time there?
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To the objective eye, BSFS is at least 90 times better than memorial.
You have friends that have always had a good time there?
To a person, they always have a really enjoyable time.
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i was looking at the coliseum where USC plays. USC had to pull out the track that was left from the olympics and it essentially added only 8,000 seats so it can be done without a huge renovation. one issue though is that those endzone seats are still limited in distance to the field because the extension of the sideline seats prevents them from getting much closer. it cost southern cal $15m to fix their track issue but that was like 20 yrs ago.
the east side is like the hill side on memorial, nothing can save that mess.
i've been to games there and sat in the west endzone and the distance was noticeable.
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i was looking at the coliseum where USC plays. USC had to pull out the track that was left from the olympics and it essentially added only 8,000 seats so it can be done without a huge renovation. one issue though is that those endzone seats are still limited in distance to the field because the extension of the sideline seats prevents them from getting much closer. it cost southern cal $15m to fix their track issue but that was like 20 yrs ago.
the east side is like the hill side on memorial, nothing can save that mess.
i've been to games there and sat in the west endzone and the distance was noticeable.
Link to Washington's recent stadium renovation:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=11733813&p=14 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=11733813&p=14)
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i was looking at the coliseum where USC plays. USC had to pull out the track that was left from the olympics and it essentially added only 8,000 seats so it can be done without a huge renovation. one issue though is that those endzone seats are still limited in distance to the field because the extension of the sideline seats prevents them from getting much closer. it cost southern cal $15m to fix their track issue but that was like 20 yrs ago.
the east side is like the hill side on memorial, nothing can save that mess.
i've been to games there and sat in the west endzone and the distance was noticeable.
Link to Washington's recent stadium renovation:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=11733813&p=14 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=11733813&p=14)
good grief BMW- lets quit playing HeeHaw with the eff around gang
Washington is essentially rebuilding their entire stadium, KU AD is retrofitting yours
UW's cost for the project you linked will end up being in the neighborhood of $275m
KU won't come close to doing anything that complex
both sides need to quit the contest of delusionality for fucks sake
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Aside from the North endzone, Memorial Stadium's seats are just as close to the field as K-State's:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jayhawksfootballtickets.com%2Fimg%2Fvenues%2FMemorial%2520Stadium.jpg&hash=e6663bd961c40bf89c7d8305f033d452e9ae22d2)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbnarchitects.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2Feducation%2Flarge%2Fksu_football_1.jpg&hash=dbd01e83cf9c951dd6e7d0f53f8d7c17f7bd6b1d)
And yes, to the objective eye, Memorial Stadium's setting and location are way, way better.
Nice picture of a full Memorial Stadium. Must have been from that one good year they had when they were self proclaimed Big 12 north champs. T-shirt fans were out in full effect.
Butthurt is as butthurt does.
That doesn't even make sense in the context of this thread. Our stadium is awesome, yours sucks.
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I still want to know what a "true" stadium is.
I'm so glad we turned Zenger down and got Currie instead.
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I still want to know what a "true" stadium is.
I'm guessing true football stadium, as in also used for T&F and quidditch? I dunno.
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I still want to know what a "true" stadium is.
I'm so glad we turned Zenger down and got Currie instead.
"guys, zenger is all over the bsfs project, and when he gets it done, it's going to be amazing. way better than ku's."
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K-State is putting the finishing touches on $89.75 million dollars in football stadium improvements, will be finalizing brand new A/V and Technology phases for its major sports venues in the next few weeks and has Phase III of Football Stadium Improvements out for architectural response, on top of opening up a brand new on campus crew facility, and just opening the doors to a state of the art basketball training facility.
KU, finally getting that outdoor track. It's way off campus, required a 50 year lease and a huge loan for a sport that will never turn a profit and for a track meet that's at the lower end of the "major" meet hierarchy. But they're spending a bunch of private money to build a building for a book, and still hmming and hawing around about what to do with their old decrepit football stadium aka the home of the most important sport in college athletics.
Fantastic.
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Zenger is incredibly small time in comparison to JC
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K-State is putting the finishing touches on $89.75 million dollars in football stadium improvements, will be finalizing brand new A/V and Technology phases for its major sports venues in the next few weeks and has Phase III of Football Stadium Improvements out for architectural response, on top of opening up a brand new on campus crew facility, and just opening the doors to a state of the art basketball training facility.
KU, finally getting that outdoor track. It's way off campus, required a 50 year lease and a huge loan for a sport that will never turn a profit and for a track meet that's at the lower end of the "major" meet hierarchy. But they're spending a bunch of private money to build a building for a book, and still hmming and hawing around about what to do with their old decrepit football stadium aka the home of the most important sport in college athletics.
Fantastic.
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Our eliteness is almost unfair to KU. How do they go on? Women's jogging I guess.
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Hey did you guys here that KU is getting a new track?
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Hey did you guys here that KU is getting a new track?
no
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Aside from the North endzone, Memorial Stadium's seats are just as close to the field as K-State's:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jayhawksfootballtickets.com%2Fimg%2Fvenues%2FMemorial%2520Stadium.jpg&hash=e6663bd961c40bf89c7d8305f033d452e9ae22d2)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbnarchitects.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2Feducation%2Flarge%2Fksu_football_1.jpg&hash=dbd01e83cf9c951dd6e7d0f53f8d7c17f7bd6b1d)
And yes, to the objective eye, Memorial Stadium's setting and location are way, way better.
Nice picture of a full Memorial Stadium. Must have been from that one good year they had when they were self proclaimed Big 12 north champs. T-shirt fans were out in full effect.
Butthurt is as butthurt does.
That doesn't even make sense in the context of this thread. Our stadium is awesome, yours sucks.
But look at the hill and campus in the background! Those make Memorial way better!
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I mean, you know... :love:
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I mean, really, I can take a picture from an angle and make it seem like it's in the middle of nowhere.
Why did KU dump their stadium in the middle of an apartment complex?
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I bet Zulu already has the paving companies on standby for when they don't need those shot put and discus areas outside the stadium.
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I bet Zulu already has the paving companies on standby for when they don't need those shot put and discus areas outside the stadium.
That's where the city bus depot is going.
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I bet Zulu already has the paving companies on standby for when they don't need those shot put and discus areas outside the stadium.
That's where the city bus depot is going.
Oh
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i was looking at the coliseum where USC plays. USC had to pull out the track that was left from the olympics and it essentially added only 8,000 seats so it can be done without a huge renovation. one issue though is that those endzone seats are still limited in distance to the field because the extension of the sideline seats prevents them from getting much closer. it cost southern cal $15m to fix their track issue but that was like 20 yrs ago.
the east side is like the hill side on memorial, nothing can save that mess.
i've been to games there and sat in the west endzone and the distance was noticeable.
Link to Washington's recent stadium renovation:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=11733813&p=14 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=11733813&p=14)
good grief BMW- lets quit playing HeeHaw with the eff around gang
Washington is essentially rebuilding their entire stadium, KU AD is retrofitting yours
UW's cost for the project you linked will end up being in the neighborhood of $275m
KU won't come close to doing anything that complex
both sides need to quit the contest of delusionality for fucks sake
I'm not sure how much it will cost in the end, but KU is going to do significant upgrades to Memorial Stadium (likely in phases, similar to K-State and BSFS). Rumblings:
As many have speculated, the track will be removed, the field will be lowered, and the seating will be brought in closer to the field of play, while also increasing the "pitch" of the bleachers around the entire stadium. The north bowl will be squared and brought in to accommodate this purpose. The open end of the horseshoe will be closed by a very low profile structure which may or may not feature a small number of seats, but will not impact the view of the "Hill" from most of the stadium. The structure will feature a series of tunnels to facilitate commencement activities, the team's entrance on to the field, etc. There will also be comprehensive improvements to concession and restroom facilities, technology to enhance the fan experience, and aesthetics. The suites and press boxes will be renovated, and infrastructure will be installed on the east side and north bowls to accommodate potential expansion.
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I bet Zulu already has the paving companies on standby for when they don't need those shot put and discus areas outside the stadium.
That's where the city bus depot is going.
Confirmed? Last time I heard it was just under consideration (horrible idea, obviously).
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I mean, you know... :love:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm1.static.flickr.com%2F88%2F232753005_34020e7e03.jpg&hash=2f3fbef43714692d71a83126c61013b8cd21a333)
I mean, really, I can take a picture from an angle and make it seem like it's in the middle of nowhere.
Why did KU dump their stadium in the middle of an apartment complex?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fworldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2003%2F12%2F07%2Fkustadium_t440.jpg%3F9e2a24ba44807f8f9b96aad7c4082bf6ded075dc&hash=1fd072bc0a2bca1b07545ccbc3484b49c54e60d8)
Gameday photo comparison
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Yeah! touchdown KU! Did you see that?!
Oh darn, missed it, I was staring at the hill again.
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Yeah! touchdown KU! Did you see that?!
Oh darn, missed it, I was staring at the hill again.
Seriously, tho... How bad would it suck to miss the annual touchdown by the home team in Lowrents??
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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I'm not sure how much it will cost in the end, but KU is going to do significant upgrades to Memorial Stadium (likely in phases, similar to K-State and BSFS). Rumblings:
As many have speculated, the track will be removed, the field will be lowered, and the seating will be brought in closer to the field of play, while also increasing the "pitch" of the bleachers around the entire stadium. The north bowl will be squared and brought in to accommodate this purpose. The open end of the horseshoe will be closed by a very low profile structure which may or may not feature a small number of seats, but will not impact the view of the "Hill" from most of the stadium. The structure will feature a series of tunnels to facilitate commencement activities, the team's entrance on to the field, etc. There will also be comprehensive improvements to concession and restroom facilities, technology to enhance the fan experience, and aesthetics. The suites and press boxes will be renovated, and infrastructure will be installed on the east side and north bowls to accommodate potential expansion.
Are those rumblings from the same guy that said the Big 12 would be done in 2-3 years?
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I'm not sure how much it will cost in the end, but KU is going to do significant upgrades to Memorial Stadium (likely in phases, similar to K-State and BSFS). Rumblings:
As many have speculated, the track will be removed, the field will be lowered, and the seating will be brought in closer to the field of play, while also increasing the "pitch" of the bleachers around the entire stadium. The north bowl will be squared and brought in to accommodate this purpose. The open end of the horseshoe will be closed by a very low profile structure which may or may not feature a small number of seats, but will not impact the view of the "Hill" from most of the stadium. The structure will feature a series of tunnels to facilitate commencement activities, the team's entrance on to the field, etc. There will also be comprehensive improvements to concession and restroom facilities, technology to enhance the fan experience, and aesthetics. The suites and press boxes will be renovated, and infrastructure will be installed on the east side and north bowls to accommodate potential expansion.
Are those rumblings from the same guy that said the Big 12 would be done in 2-3 years?
They're in sync with other rumblings/rumors I've heard regarding the stadium, but to answer your question, yes.
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I mean, you know... :love:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm1.static.flickr.com%2F88%2F232753005_34020e7e03.jpg&hash=2f3fbef43714692d71a83126c61013b8cd21a333)
I mean, really, I can take a picture from an angle and make it seem like it's in the middle of nowhere.
Why did KU dump their stadium in the middle of an apartment complex?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fworldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2003%2F12%2F07%2Fkustadium_t440.jpg%3F9e2a24ba44807f8f9b96aad7c4082bf6ded075dc&hash=1fd072bc0a2bca1b07545ccbc3484b49c54e60d8)
Advantage Memorial Stadium, once again. I mean, no more majestic Flint Hills sunsets with LHC Bill Snyder Town Hall blocking the view.
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The only "neat" thing about Memorial is the view of the Oread and vice versa
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Tell me more about KU's imaginary stadium upgrades.
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Most recent pics I could find of the new videoboard and the view from inside Memorial:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fworldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2010%2F05%2F16%2FKU_Graduation2010_jg_06_t460.jpg&hash=84dcfb9e915de86b809067dce62c9e9ce975861c)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Faviewfrommyseat.com%2Fphotos%2Fmountaintab-20110904001728.jpg&hash=42fd21c124565c5a334251aeb4495f78336b8d8c)
:love: :love: :love:
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Some great cropping going on there, beems.
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the first picture is graduation. the second picture idk who we are playing, but the view is awesome.
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lol
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lol
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lol
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sametwopicsbeemsalwaysposts.jpg
gettingprettysad.jpg
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Helluva crowd for that McNeese State game.
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the first picture is graduation. the second picture idk who we are playing, but the view is awesome.
Looks like it was South Dakota St., which explains why the visitors section is so empty. Attendance was 46,601.
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Stadium looks full:
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:dunno:
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Is that press box only 3 levels? :lol:
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Is that press box only 3 levels? :lol:
This was your pressbox until 2013:
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(KU's has at least four levels, fwiw)
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Aside from the North endzone, Memorial Stadium's seats are just as close to the field as K-State's:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jayhawksfootballtickets.com%2Fimg%2Fvenues%2FMemorial%2520Stadium.jpg&hash=e6663bd961c40bf89c7d8305f033d452e9ae22d2)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbnarchitects.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2Feducation%2Flarge%2Fksu_football_1.jpg&hash=dbd01e83cf9c951dd6e7d0f53f8d7c17f7bd6b1d)
And yes, to the objective eye, Memorial Stadium's setting and location are way, way better.
Nice picture of a full Memorial Stadium. Must have been from that one good year they had when they were self proclaimed Big 12 north champs. T-shirt fans were out in full effect.
Butthurt is as butthurt does.
That doesn't even make sense in the context of this thread. Our stadium is awesome, yours sucks.
Your stadium is a hole in the ground with a grandstand on one side and a stone-clad cruise ship on the other. The only thing that makes it good is the screaming of the purple masses, and that's not a bad thing. You guys have done the most with the least, so you should be proud.
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Yeah, some teams upgrade their stuff, lol.
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so blessed tho
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I'm glad the resident squawks have such low expectations for a football stadium, if BSFS looked like that heads would roll.
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I'm glad the resident squawks have such low expectations for a football stadium, if BSFS looked like that heads would roll.
lol it did look like that until this year.
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:driving:I'm glad the resident squawks have such low expectations for a football stadium, if BSFS looked like that heads would roll.
lol it did look like that until this year.
There was nothing as ugly as the track or the erector set you guys have and will have for a while still.
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Your stadium is a hole in the ground with a grandstand on one side and a stone-clad cruise ship on the other. The only thing that makes it good is the screaming of the purple masses, and that's not a bad thing. You guys have done the most with the least, so you should be proud.
you use the "hole in the ground" thing a lot on phog.net too. do you really believe that's a bad thing or is it just a talking point? be aware, how you answer this question says a lot about you.
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That tent city completes the carnival-like atmosphere. :drool:
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tent city? I see a shanty town when I see pics looking south out of that pile of crap
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tent city? I see a shanty town when I see pics looking south out of that pile of crap
yet when the big 12 implodes, that shanty town will have a home in a power conference while Kstate might find a home in the mountain west :)
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so blessed tho
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The track looks great.
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Can you guys imagine this place once the track is removed and a few things are updated? It's going to be unreal.
:lol:
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Could have chariot races there.
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The hill might offer some value if UK's campus was as nice as state's, alas,it is not, its a rough ridin' hill.
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Can you guys imagine this place once the track is removed and a few things are updated? It's going to be unreal.
:lol:
Even if that happens, the stadium structure and exterior will still look extremely ugly and shitty.
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Your stadium is a hole in the ground with a grandstand on one side and a stone-clad cruise ship on the other. The only thing that makes it good is the screaming of the purple masses, and that's not a bad thing. You guys have done the most with the least, so you should be proud.
you use the "hole in the ground" thing a lot on phog.net too. do you really believe that's a bad thing or is it just a talking point? be aware, how you answer this question says a lot about you.
I assume you are using the universal "you" in this context. For acoustic purposes, no I don't believe it's a bad thing. For construction/engineering purposes, no it's not a bad thing - cheaper and easier to build. For aesthetics and general impressions, though? I've seen a lot of high school and small-time college stadia utilize that method. Some people may conflate the "hole in the ground"ness of it with high school and small-time college stadia. It certainly diminishes the visual impact from without.
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Could have chariot races there.
ha! spot-on with the circus maximus reference.
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Your stadium is a hole in the ground with a grandstand on one side and a stone-clad cruise ship on the other. The only thing that makes it good is the screaming of the purple masses, and that's not a bad thing. You guys have done the most with the least, so you should be proud.
you use the "hole in the ground" thing a lot on phog.net too. do you really believe that's a bad thing or is it just a talking point? be aware, how you answer this question says a lot about you.
I assume you are using the universal "you" in this context. For acoustic purposes, no I don't believe it's a bad thing. For construction/engineering purposes, no it's not a bad thing - cheaper and easier to build. For aesthetics and general impressions, though? I've seen a lot of high school and small-time college stadia utilize that method. Some people may conflate the "hole in the ground"ness of it with high school and small-time college stadia. It certainly diminishes the visual impact from without.
Which is more confusing with small time and high school stadia, our "hole", or your track?
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real crap tho.. if they really have the go-ahead to do anything close to what they're saying, they have a great opportunity to make a decent little, intimate, completely wrapped around stadium (which anyone can do with an almost complete rebuild I guess, Stanford, UofW, etc) But they're so obsessed with that shitty looking hill, they're going to put a ton of money into this thing and it's still going to look so small-timey.. we're going to :lol: so hard at it
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Your stadium is a hole in the ground with a grandstand on one side and a stone-clad cruise ship on the other. The only thing that makes it good is the screaming of the purple masses, and that's not a bad thing. You guys have done the most with the least, so you should be proud.
you use the "hole in the ground" thing a lot on phog.net too. do you really believe that's a bad thing or is it just a talking point? be aware, how you answer this question says a lot about you.
I assume you are using the universal "you" in this context. For acoustic purposes, no I don't believe it's a bad thing. For construction/engineering purposes, no it's not a bad thing - cheaper and easier to build. For aesthetics and general impressions, though? I've seen a lot of high school and small-time college stadia utilize that method. Some people may conflate the "hole in the ground"ness of it with high school and small-time college stadia. It certainly diminishes the visual impact from without.
Which is more confusing with small time and high school stadia, our "hole", or your track?
Dunno, but could you imagine the combination of the two? :barf:
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Also, on today's edition of "As Memorial Turns," a poster claiming inside info on one of our sites is claiming a $750M project to build a brand new stadium on West Campus has been green lit :jerk:
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In reviewing the 50 pages of this thread, I can offer a perfectly succinct and complete summary:
KUs stadium where they play football, band, track and field blows.
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Also, on today's edition of "As Memorial Turns," a poster claiming inside info on one of our sites is claiming a $750M project to build a brand new stadium on West Campus has been green lit :jerk:
Where is that money going to come from? Wasn't your AD in the red last year?
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#1squak
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real crap tho.. if they really have the go-ahead to do anything close to what they're saying, they have a great opportunity to make a decent little, intimate, completely wrapped around stadium (which anyone can do with an almost complete rebuild I guess, Stanford, UofW, etc) But they're so obsessed with that shitty looking hill, they're going to put a ton of money into this thing and it's still going to look so small-timey.. we're going to :lol: so hard at it
BSFS is still small timey
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the first picture is graduation. the second picture idk who we are playing, but the view is awesome.
Looks like it was South Dakota St., which explains why the visitors section is so empty. Attendance was 46,601.
It was against Mcneese State and the attendance was 41,068.
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BSFS is still small timey
wrong thread, Tim.. stay on topic
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Also, on today's edition of "As Memorial Turns," a poster claiming inside info on one of our sites is claiming a $750M project to build a brand new stadium on West Campus has been green lit :jerk:
Where is that money going to come from? Wasn't your AD in the red last year?
Are you thinking of the football program, or the entire AD? I don't know off the top of my head, my guess is the former but not the latter. I know you guys have that profit thingy from a year or so ago that is important to you, but you have to remember that your expenses were extremely low that year - that's not always a good thing. Now that you've started spending more money and taking on bonds for facility upgrades, you'll start to see some pretty different figures.
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I don't understand the "hole in the ground" talking point when these same KU fans want to get rid of the track by sinking their field into a "hole in the ground"
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I don't understand the "hole in the ground" talking point when these same KU fans want to get rid of the track by sinking their field into a "hole in the ground"
You're dumb if you don't perceive a difference. You're not dumb, tho.
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In reviewing the 50 pages of this thread, I can offer a perfectly succinct and complete summary:
KUs stadium where they play football, band, track and field blows.
Tent city hill, tho.
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I don't understand the "hole in the ground" talking point when these same KU fans want to get rid of the track by sinking their field into a "hole in the ground"
You're dumb if you don't perceive a difference. You're not dumb, tho.
The difference between a hole and a-hole is subtle, yet distinct.
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So close to winning worst stadium in the BCS. Damn you Temple. :thumbsup:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1605945-power-ranking-every-bcs-college-football-stadium/page/3
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Temple is bcs? :sdeek:
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Do the ku people not understand that many of the most famous and iconic stadiums in history (Michigan stadium, Death Valley, etc) are sunken in the ground? Also, the field at arrowhead goes down about two stories beneth ground level. Are you all dumb or just really have nothing else to grasp onto at this point?
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Do the ku people not understand that many of the most famous and iconic stadiums in history (Michigan stadium, Death Valley, etc) are sunken in the ground? Also, the field at arrowhead goes down about two stories beneth ground level. Are you all dumb or just really have nothing else to grasp onto at this point?
All dumb.
Nothing to grasp.
Too lazy to show you how those examples are not analogous.
Did anyone watch "Diggers" tonight? They found some sweet roundness in the hole!
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sorry your fellow hawk fans on the phog laughed at you for saying the overhead pic was great and the stadium could be "unreal." :frown:
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i can only assume that's the new track? impressive beems but where does your schools priorities lie?
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Is that the abandoned lot where Aaron Hernandez smoked that dude?
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Is free state getting a new stadium? Looks good for a high school place I guess.
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sorry your fellow hawk fans on the phog laughed at you for saying the overhead pic was great and the stadium could be "unreal." :frown:
If by "fellow hawk fans on the phog" you mean Dr. J, then LOL. Also, LOL at being so damn butthurt about KU's gorgeous setting and stadium location.
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Is that the abandoned lot where Aaron Hernandez smoked that dude?
Confirmed. Here is another pic closer up:
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i can only assume that's the new track? impressive beems but where does your schools priorities lie?
New track = football stadium upgrades and the removal of the track from Memorial Stadium. How many times does this point need to be made before it sinks in?
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It could be because its track, or maybe because its such a deminimus expense for :ksugrad:, but didn't kstate recently redo their ON CAMPUS track and field complex? Didn't we host big xii championships right afterwards? I can't remember but think I heard that somewhere.
Why didn't we celebrate with same excitement and fanfare as BMW is celebrating Lawrence's (new? only?) soccer/rec park?
I suppose BMW is like a poor celebrating the sticker sale at the JCPenney outlet store,everyone else is like "yuck, why would you go there" and he's all camping out in the parking lot salivating over the deal he's going to get on undershirts.
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i can only assume that's the new track? impressive beems but where does your schools priorities lie?
New track = football stadium upgrades and the removal of the track from Memorial Stadium. How many times does this point need to be made before it sinks in?
oh yeah, I always forget you have a track around your for all stadium :lol:
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Do the ku people not understand that many of the most famous and iconic stadiums in history (Michigan stadium, Death Valley, etc) are sunken in the ground? Also, the field at arrowhead goes down about two stories beneth ground level. Are you all dumb or just really have nothing else to grasp onto at this point?
They have nothing else to grasp onto, besides the "stadium surrounded by asphalt" talking point.
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sorry your fellow hawk fans on the phog laughed at you for saying the overhead pic was great and the stadium could be "unreal." :frown:
If by "fellow hawk fans on the phog" you mean Dr. J, then LOL. Also, LOL at being so damn butthurt about KU's gorgeous setting and stadium location.
:lol:
i hurt for you when he said upgrades would be "lipstick on a pig."
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I was actually a little jealous of KU back in the "Lew is building a monster" days, when they rolled out the Olympic Park to be built on campus.
Being seeing KU's athletic department revenue's plummet, seeing KU athletics have to dive into reserve funds to make up for a nearly $9 million dollar budget shortfall in FY 2012, and seeing the urestricted fund account be short by over $4 million dollars. Coupled with Zulu having to go borrow millions to build a WAY off campus track on a 50 year lease. Not so much.
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Is that the abandoned lot where Aaron Hernandez smoked that dude?
Confirmed. Here is another pic closer up:
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Smock, are you building high school? What is that?
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Is there a webcam? Would really love to follow progress on the ladies jogging facility.
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http://www.kstatesports.com/facilities/c-track-venues.html
So elite :love:
I guess us 'taters will never know what its like having a off campus municipal track for tracksters
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KU fans will brag about their awesome new stadium until they see the shitty plans for it. Once those are out, they will decide that despite spending way less $$ on it, it is nicer than KSU's new stadium and has a better setting. Then it will never be built because they can't raise the funds. In 5 years, they will roll out a new plan and repeat. Cycle of shame.
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Open pit strip mining in Kansas??
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That's pretty nice that the City of Lawrence is allowing KU to use their facility for womens outdoor running. :tsc:
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1911: kstate builds stand alone track facility
1921: Ku builds memorial football, soccer, band,track shared facility
2004: kstate upgrades stand alone track facility
2012: Lawrence city council approves track rec facility, agrees to let Ku borrow it sometimes
2???: Ku upgrades football, band, soccer,track shared facility
Seems like the natural order of things
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i can only assume that's the new track? impressive beems but where does your schools priorities lie?
New track = football stadium upgrades and the removal of the track from Memorial Stadium. How many times does this point need to be made before it sinks in?
and how many times do i have to tell you your school mumped up here.
quick question cat fans out there. If you were to say have a shitty football stadium that was being used for track would you want a new track built or say eff track and give us a better money making sport stadium/upgrades?
if this situation was reversed and it was ksu that needed upgrades that hampered both sports until a facility was built our AD would probably just scrap track all together until it was built
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I was actually a little jealous of KU back in the "Lew is building a monster" days, when they rolled out the Olympic Park to be built on campus.
Being seeing KU's athletic department revenue's plummet, seeing KU athletics have to dive into reserve funds to make up for a nearly $9 million dollar budget shortfall in FY 2012, and seeing the urestricted fund account be short by over $4 million dollars. Coupled with Zulu having to go borrow millions to build a WAY off campus track on a 50 year lease. Not so much.
It's a 30-year lease, and yeah, a 1-11 football season will hurt any athletic department in terms of generating revenue. Meanwhile, K-State has over $83 million in long-term debt. Keep the butthurt 'tater propaganda machine rolling, though.
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i can only assume that's the new track? impressive beems but where does your schools priorities lie?
New track = football stadium upgrades and the removal of the track from Memorial Stadium. How many times does this point need to be made before it sinks in?
and how many times do i have to tell you your school mumped up here.
quick question cat fans out there. If you were to say have a shitty football stadium that was being used for track would you want a new track built or say eff track and give us a better money making sport stadium/upgrades?
if this situation was reversed and it was ksu that needed upgrades that hampered both sports until a facility was built our AD would probably just scrap track all together until it was built
The track & field program is an athletic program with real athletes and real coaches. They won a national championship last year. Grow up.
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I was actually a little jealous of KU back in the "Lew is building a monster" days, when they rolled out the Olympic Park to be built on campus.
Being seeing KU's athletic department revenue's plummet, seeing KU athletics have to dive into reserve funds to make up for a nearly $9 million dollar budget shortfall in FY 2012, and seeing the urestricted fund account be short by over $4 million dollars. Coupled with Zulu having to go borrow millions to build a WAY off campus track on a 50 year lease. Not so much.
It's a 30-year lease, and yeah, a 1-11 football season will hurt any athletic department in terms of generating revenue. Meanwhile, K-State has over $83 million in long-term debt. Keep the butthurt 'tater propaganda machine rolling, though.
First off, it's a 50 years lease, the first 30 are a set annual payment, and the next 20 are at FMV.
K-State Athletics Inc. by KDFA mandate has millions in bond reserve funds to pay the debt. Otherwise the KDFA and the BOR would not have backed the debt offering.
You simply don't understand how this works.
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I was actually a little jealous of KU back in the "Lew is building a monster" days, when they rolled out the Olympic Park to be built on campus.
Being seeing KU's athletic department revenue's plummet, seeing KU athletics have to dive into reserve funds to make up for a nearly $9 million dollar budget shortfall in FY 2012, and seeing the urestricted fund account be short by over $4 million dollars. Coupled with Zulu having to go borrow millions to build a WAY off campus track on a 50 year lease. Not so much.
It's a 30-year lease, and yeah, a 1-11 football season will hurt any athletic department in terms of generating revenue. Meanwhile, K-State has over $83 million in long-term debt. Keep the butthurt 'tater propaganda machine rolling, though.
First off, it's a 50 years lease, the first 30 are a set annual payment, and the next 20 are at FMV.
K-State Athletics Inc. by KDFA mandate has millions in bond reserve funds to pay the debt. Otherwise the KDFA and the BOR would not have backed the debt offering.
You simply don't understand how this works.
The lease agreement is for 30 years, 'Pad.
Kansas Athletics will pay Fritzel’s Bliss Sports $1.3 million each year for 30 years as part of a lease that will give KU full use of the track and field stadium, the soccer field, softball stadium and other amenities in the park. The 30-year agreement will produce $39 million in payments to Bliss. KU officials have estimated the value of the proposed facilities to be about $50 million.
• The payments to Bliss Sports will last for 30 years, but Bliss Sports will own the facilities for 50 years. At that point, ownership of the facilities will transfer to either Kansas University Endowment Association or KU Athletics. The property the facilities will sit on will be owned by KU Endowment. The Endowment Association has created a separated limited liability company — called RCP LLC — to own the property on its behalf.
• Fritzel confirmed that if any non-KU events are held at the facility, Kansas Athletics — not Bliss Sports — will collect any facility rental fees or other type of charges associated with using the property. When asked if the $1.3 million per year lease payments were the only revenue that Bliss Sports would receive from the project, Fritzel said: “Yeah, if you want to call that revenue, sure.”
• Fritzel said he and his wife, Dru, are the only owners of Bliss Sports. Questions have arisen why Fritzel is providing the financing through a for-profit company as opposed to a not-for-profit foundation that he previously had established. He said the only reason is because tax and financial professionals he had hired had advised him to do it this way.
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/jan/18/fritzel-breaks-silence-proposed-rock-chalk-park-de/ (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/jan/18/fritzel-breaks-silence-proposed-rock-chalk-park-de/)
And you can spin $83 million in long-term debt any way you want... it's still $83 million in long-term debt. If KU had that much debt, you would be jacking off to it at least twice a week and talking about how sad our financial situation was.
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i like fritzel's house more than compton's house. total studd/boss of lawrence. would use the airport abbreviation like we do for manhattan/mhk but i don't think lawrence has one.
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Well that's changed multiple times Beems, because another article in the LJWorld referenced a FMV payment for the last 20 years the landlord owns the land, and KU athletics as of right now is financially obligated to cover over $80 million dollars worth long term debt and lease obligations. Between outstanding bonds, loans from private individuals and long term lease obligations.
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Our debt derives from constructing revenue generating facilities. 40 new suites and about 2000 new club seats.
Congrats on the track title, where can I sign up for my season track tickets? Are there suites? who's your favorite/best track runner? Thanks, I'll listen off the air.
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KSU has about 80 million in long term debt
KU has about 50 million in long term debt and another 39 million in lease obligations per this article.
So KU actually has more future obligations then KSU does it is just structured differently. Also KSU has like $50 million in cash on it's balance sheet where as KU only has like $5 million or so in cash and another $25 million or so invested with endowment. So the ratio of liquid assets to LTD is almost exactly the same and that isn't even factoring in KU's lease obligations.
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Well that's changed multiple times Beems, because another article in the LJWorld referenced a FMV payment for the last 20 years the landlord owns the land, and KU athletics as of right now is financially obligated to cover over $80 million dollars worth long term debt and lease obligations. Between outstanding bonds, loans from private individuals and long term lease obligations.
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/jan/18/fritzel-breaks-silence-proposed-rock-chalk-park-de/ (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/jan/18/fritzel-breaks-silence-proposed-rock-chalk-park-de/)
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Fritzel — who has multiple business interests in Lawrence, including The Eldridge Hotel and The Oread hotel — said he hopes the sports complex will attract non-KU events to the community. “If you want the city to continue to prosper, then we had better do things to make people want to come to our community to enjoy the University of Kansas, the city of Lawrence and our amenities here because we don’t have a lot to offer at this point,” Fritzel said “We can do so much more.”
Local leaders have mentioned using the new sports complex as the venue for possible bids for the Junior Olympics, the U.S. Special Olympics, the Kansas High School Track and Field Championships and other events. Fritzel said Bliss Sports’ ownership of the property won’t allow him to directly profit from any such events.
City commissioners acknowledged Friday that they had not previously seen many of the details about the proposed agreements between Bliss Sports and the KU entities. But they said they were pleased with what they had learned.
City Commissioner Mike Dever said he now has a better understanding of how the sports complex would be run and that it would be done so in a way that the public could have confidence in.
Mayor Bob Schumm said Friday’s details were consistent with what he had heard of the relationship between Bliss and KU. He said he believes Fritzel’s offer to finance the project is particularly attractive to KU Athletics because it is trying to prepare for major spending projects at Memorial Stadium and Allen Fieldhouse.
“They are trying to structure this in a way so that is an affordable amount of money each year so that they can get to some other projects,” Schumm said. “Memorial Stadium and the fieldhouse will take a great deal of money, I believe.”
Fritzel said he would provide copies of the signed agreements between Bliss and the KU entities to the Journal-World and the City Commission so that they can be viewed by the public.
“I want to be open,” Fritzel said. “There is nothing to hide here.”
When those agreements will be completed, however, isn’t certain. But Fritzel said his timeline is “real quick.”
City commissioners in mid-February are scheduled to make a final decision on a separate but related project: the $25 million recreation center and youth fieldhouse.
That project would be on about 25 acres of ground that is adjacent to the KU facilities and that KU Endowment will provide to the city. As part of the land transfer deal, KU Endowment is insisting that it build the recreation facility to the city’s specifications. The city then will make a one-time payment not to exceed $25 million to KU Endowment, giving the city outright ownership of the land and the recreation center.
This new complex will generate millions of dollars worth of revenue for KU, plus $25 million for the KU Endowment.
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i can only assume that's the new track? impressive beems but where does your schools priorities lie?
New track = football stadium upgrades and the removal of the track from Memorial Stadium. How many times does this point need to be made before it sinks in?
and how many times do i have to tell you your school mumped up here.
quick question cat fans out there. If you were to say have a shitty football stadium that was being used for track would you want a new track built or say eff track and give us a better money making sport stadium/upgrades?
if this situation was reversed and it was ksu that needed upgrades that hampered both sports until a facility was built our AD would probably just scrap track all together until it was built
The track & field program is an athletic program with real athletes and real coaches. They won a national championship last year. Grow up.
obviously that was hypothetical beems but i think you got my point. football wins fans and money, track....does not
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*this is the thread for arguing about track correct?
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i can only assume that's the new track? impressive beems but where does your schools priorities lie?
New track = football stadium upgrades and the removal of the track from Memorial Stadium. How many times does this point need to be made before it sinks in?
and how many times do i have to tell you your school mumped up here.
quick question cat fans out there. If you were to say have a shitty football stadium that was being used for track would you want a new track built or say eff track and give us a better money making sport stadium/upgrades?
if this situation was reversed and it was ksu that needed upgrades that hampered both sports until a facility was built our AD would probably just scrap track all together until it was built
The track & field program is an athletic program with real athletes and real coaches. They won a national championship last year. Grow up.
obviously that was hypothetical beems but i think you got my point. football wins fans and money, track....does not
Why do you think this is somehow news to me?
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I was actually a little jealous of KU back in the "Lew is building a monster" days, when they rolled out the Olympic Park to be built on campus.
Being seeing KU's athletic department revenue's plummet, seeing KU athletics have to dive into reserve funds to make up for a nearly $9 million dollar budget shortfall in FY 2012, and seeing the urestricted fund account be short by over $4 million dollars. Coupled with Zulu having to go borrow millions to build a WAY off campus track on a 50 year lease. Not so much.
It's a 30-year lease, and yeah, a 1-11 football season will hurt any athletic department in terms of generating revenue. Meanwhile, K-State has over $83 million in long-term debt. Keep the butthurt 'tater propaganda machine rolling, though.
First off, it's a 50 years lease, the first 30 are a set annual payment, and the next 20 are at FMV.
K-State Athletics Inc. by KDFA mandate has millions in bond reserve funds to pay the debt. Otherwise the KDFA and the BOR would not have backed the debt offering.
You simply don't understand how this works.
The lease agreement is for 30 years, 'Pad.
Kansas Athletics will pay Fritzel’s Bliss Sports $1.3 million each year for 30 years as part of a lease that will give KU full use of the track and field stadium, the soccer field, softball stadium and other amenities in the park. The 30-year agreement will produce $39 million in payments to Bliss. KU officials have estimated the value of the proposed facilities to be about $50 million.
• The payments to Bliss Sports will last for 30 years, but Bliss Sports will own the facilities for 50 years. At that point, ownership of the facilities will transfer to either Kansas University Endowment Association or KU Athletics. The property the facilities will sit on will be owned by KU Endowment. The Endowment Association has created a separated limited liability company — called RCP LLC — to own the property on its behalf.
• Fritzel confirmed that if any non-KU events are held at the facility, Kansas Athletics — not Bliss Sports — will collect any facility rental fees or other type of charges associated with using the property. When asked if the $1.3 million per year lease payments were the only revenue that Bliss Sports would receive from the project, Fritzel said: “Yeah, if you want to call that revenue, sure.”
• Fritzel said he and his wife, Dru, are the only owners of Bliss Sports. Questions have arisen why Fritzel is providing the financing through a for-profit company as opposed to a not-for-profit foundation that he previously had established. He said the only reason is because tax and financial professionals he had hired had advised him to do it this way.
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/jan/18/fritzel-breaks-silence-proposed-rock-chalk-park-de/ (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/jan/18/fritzel-breaks-silence-proposed-rock-chalk-park-de/)
And you can spin $83 million in long-term debt any way you want... it's still $83 million in long-term debt. If KU had that much debt, you would be jacking off to it at least twice a week and talking about how sad our financial situation was.
Yeah, that's not the whole story beems. You don't even know what's going on do you? :don'tcare:
As previously reported, KU Athletics will pay $1.3 million a year for 30 years to Bliss Sports to cover Bliss’ costs to finance the project. Also as previously reported, Bliss will maintain ownership of the facilities for 50 years.
What has not been previously disclosed is that the lease also calls for KU to pay lease payments in years 31 through 50 as well. Fritzel made no mention of that provision when interviewed by the Journal-World in January.
The rate of the lease for years 31-50 will be the “fair market rental value” of the property as determined by Bliss and agreed to by Kansas Athletics.
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2013/feb/19/details-emerge-about-agreements-between-fritzel-en/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2013/feb/19/details-emerge-about-agreements-between-fritzel-en/)
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I was actually a little jealous of KU back in the "Lew is building a monster" days, when they rolled out the Olympic Park to be built on campus.
Being seeing KU's athletic department revenue's plummet, seeing KU athletics have to dive into reserve funds to make up for a nearly $9 million dollar budget shortfall in FY 2012, and seeing the urestricted fund account be short by over $4 million dollars. Coupled with Zulu having to go borrow millions to build a WAY off campus track on a 50 year lease. Not so much.
It's a 30-year lease, and yeah, a 1-11 football season will hurt any athletic department in terms of generating revenue. Meanwhile, K-State has over $83 million in long-term debt. Keep the butthurt 'tater propaganda machine rolling, though.
First off, it's a 50 years lease, the first 30 are a set annual payment, and the next 20 are at FMV.
K-State Athletics Inc. by KDFA mandate has millions in bond reserve funds to pay the debt. Otherwise the KDFA and the BOR would not have backed the debt offering.
You simply don't understand how this works.
The lease agreement is for 30 years, 'Pad.
Kansas Athletics will pay Fritzel’s Bliss Sports $1.3 million each year for 30 years as part of a lease that will give KU full use of the track and field stadium, the soccer field, softball stadium and other amenities in the park. The 30-year agreement will produce $39 million in payments to Bliss. KU officials have estimated the value of the proposed facilities to be about $50 million.
• The payments to Bliss Sports will last for 30 years, but Bliss Sports will own the facilities for 50 years. At that point, ownership of the facilities will transfer to either Kansas University Endowment Association or KU Athletics. The property the facilities will sit on will be owned by KU Endowment. The Endowment Association has created a separated limited liability company — called RCP LLC — to own the property on its behalf.
• Fritzel confirmed that if any non-KU events are held at the facility, Kansas Athletics — not Bliss Sports — will collect any facility rental fees or other type of charges associated with using the property. When asked if the $1.3 million per year lease payments were the only revenue that Bliss Sports would receive from the project, Fritzel said: “Yeah, if you want to call that revenue, sure.”
• Fritzel said he and his wife, Dru, are the only owners of Bliss Sports. Questions have arisen why Fritzel is providing the financing through a for-profit company as opposed to a not-for-profit foundation that he previously had established. He said the only reason is because tax and financial professionals he had hired had advised him to do it this way.
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/jan/18/fritzel-breaks-silence-proposed-rock-chalk-park-de/ (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/jan/18/fritzel-breaks-silence-proposed-rock-chalk-park-de/)
And you can spin $83 million in long-term debt any way you want... it's still $83 million in long-term debt. If KU had that much debt, you would be jacking off to it at least twice a week and talking about how sad our financial situation was.
Yeah, that's not the whole story beems. You don't even know what's going on do you? :don'tcare:
As previously reported, KU Athletics will pay $1.3 million a year for 30 years to Bliss Sports to cover Bliss’ costs to finance the project. Also as previously reported, Bliss will maintain ownership of the facilities for 50 years.
What has not been previously disclosed is that the lease also calls for KU to pay lease payments in years 31 through 50 as well. Fritzel made no mention of that provision when interviewed by the Journal-World in January.
The rate of the lease for years 31-50 will be the “fair market rental value” of the property as determined by Bliss and agreed to by Kansas Athletics.
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2013/feb/19/details-emerge-about-agreements-between-fritzel-en/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2013/feb/19/details-emerge-about-agreements-between-fritzel-en/)
Okay, looks like Dax was right. I stand corrected. Commence circle jerk.
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:lol: Classic Beems.
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:lol: Classic Beems.
HUR HUR HUR
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:jerk: <--- imagine a circle of these (too hard to do on phone)
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i can only assume that's the new track? impressive beems but where does your schools priorities lie?
New track = football stadium upgrades and the removal of the track from Memorial Stadium. How many times does this point need to be made before it sinks in?
and how many times do i have to tell you your school mumped up here.
quick question cat fans out there. If you were to say have a shitty football stadium that was being used for track would you want a new track built or say eff track and give us a better money making sport stadium/upgrades?
if this situation was reversed and it was ksu that needed upgrades that hampered both sports until a facility was built our AD would probably just scrap track all together until it was built
The track & field program is an athletic program with real athletes and real coaches. They won a national championship last year. Grow up.
obviously that was hypothetical beems but i think you got my point. football wins fans and money, track....does not
Why do you think this is somehow news to me?
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because the track aspect and defending it all you seem to focus on. you do realize they could have made memorial way better aesthetically but instead used that money to build a new track right? I am being completely honest here and I think most would agree but your AD is using things such as track and upgrades to AFH as a shiny ball to keep you satisfied. most of us 'taters want you to have a nice football stadium but its impossible to see until it actually gets started
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poor beems. sadly this type of thing happens a lot when slick-talking businessmen come into small kansas towns and start pumping everyone's heads full of dreams.
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poor beems. sadly this type of thing happens a lot when slick-talking businessmen come into small kansas towns and start pumping everyone's heads full of dreams.
Next thing you know, all the hay is gone and you never received a check.
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sorry your fellow hawk fans on the phog laughed at you for saying the overhead pic was great and the stadium could be "unreal." :frown:
If by "fellow hawk fans on the phog" you mean Dr. J, then LOL. Also, LOL at being so damn butthurt about KU's gorgeous setting and stadium location.
:lol:
i hurt for you when he said upgrades would be "lipstick on a pig."
o my gawd. he got annihilated again today. :sdeek:
Okay, I’m going to write something that will be very unpopular here. To put it in perspective, I have been a KU fan since a little boy, but I went to college elsewhere because that’s where the scholarship money was. I don’t get to go to many games – about 1 per year.
While those of you that graduated, and walked down the hill into the stadium, hold the view of the hill as something sacred, from an “outsider” (recruit), it ends up looking awful. Sitting in the stadium and looking at the giant video board, that looks like it is in the middle of nowhere, hovering over what looks like are blow-up armchairs, just does not feel big time. I went to a small college of just a couple thousand, and it literally feels like I’m looking at the scoreboard at a tiny NAIA school. IMHO, it would actually look better if they removed some of the seating at the top of the opposite bowl and put the video board up there so that attention is not directed toward that end of the stadium unless something is done that can make it look more “polished”.
I just feel like having that end completely wide open reduces the ability to create the best game day experience possible. It doesn’t look impressive (to those that haven’t walked the hill), it lets out a ton of stadium noise, and it simply reduces the “intensity” of the venue.
I’ve seen a ton of other stadium pictures posted here in this thread and others, and quite honestly, ours is WAY behind.
Blast away.
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poor beems. sadly this type of thing happens a lot when slick-talking businessmen come into small kansas towns and start pumping everyone's heads full of dreams.
sadly enough you are right and it never ends well
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i can only assume that's the new track? impressive beems but where does your schools priorities lie?
New track = football stadium upgrades and the removal of the track from Memorial Stadium. How many times does this point need to be made before it sinks in?
and how many times do i have to tell you your school mumped up here.
quick question cat fans out there. If you were to say have a shitty football stadium that was being used for track would you want a new track built or say eff track and give us a better money making sport stadium/upgrades?
if this situation was reversed and it was ksu that needed upgrades that hampered both sports until a facility was built our AD would probably just scrap track all together until it was built
The track & field program is an athletic program with real athletes and real coaches. They won a national championship last year. Grow up.
obviously that was hypothetical beems but i think you got my point. football wins fans and money, track....does not
Why do you think this is somehow news to me?
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because the track aspect and defending it all you seem to focus on. you do realize they could have made memorial way better aesthetically but instead used that money to build a new track right? I am being completely honest here and I think most would agree but your AD is using things such as track and upgrades to AFH as a shiny ball to keep you satisfied. most of us 'taters want you to have a nice football stadium but its impossible to see until it actually gets started
1. No. KU isn't using much money at all to finance the rock chalk complex. That's why Bliss Sports is financing the construction of the project. $1.3 million a year for an athletic department that has an annual budget of over $70 million isn't that much money (~1.8%).
2. No. The upgrades to AFH were done to satisfy Bill Self and help with maintaining recruiting at a high level. Period. The track upgrades are necessary in order to remove the track from the football stadium. Repeat this to yourself at least five times if you need to do that in order for it to sink in: the track removal is the first stage of upgrades to Memorial Stadium. The upgrades to Memorial Stadium will first be to remove the track, lower the field, and build a tunnel system into the football complex and for the commencement ceremony. The construction will be done in phases, just like at K-State.
3. Again, the track outside the stadium is the first step in removing the track from Memorial Stadium and moving forward with phase 1 of construction. The track complex is ahead of schedule and should be done well in time for the 2014 Kansas Relays.
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My real point was that the on campus Olympic Village would have been much cooler than a sports park built out in the burbs like like every other municipality in the United States. Now for the few thousand that attend the ku relays, or the few hundred that attend ku soccer or softball games. Going to a game is going to be like going to a T-Bone's game, or heading over to the Soccer Megaplex in OP. Is the downtown shot put event, the only real reason to even pay attention to the Relays going to be moved out to generic could be any suburb sports park? If so, what a shame.
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poor beems. sadly this type of thing happens a lot when slick-talking businessmen come into small kansas towns and start pumping everyone's heads full of dreams.
Friends, lemme tell you what I mean.
Ya got one, two, three, four, five, six lanes in a track.
Tracks that mark the diff'rence
Between a gentlemen and a bum,
With a capital "B,"
And that rhymes with "T" and that stands for track!
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The track upgrades are necessary in order to remove the track from the football stadium.
The track upgrades are necessary in order to remove the track from the football stadium.
The track upgrades are necessary in order to remove the track from the football stadium.
The track upgrades are necessary in order to remove the track from the football stadium.
The track upgrades are necessary in order to remove the track from the football stadium.
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My real point was that the on campus Olympic Village would have been much cooler than a sports park built out in the burbs like like every other municipality in the United States. Now for the few thousand that attend the ku relays, or the few hundred that attend ku soccer or softball games. Going to a game is going to be like going to a T-Bone's game, or heading over to the Soccer Megaplex in OP. Is the downtown shot put event, the only real reason to even pay attention to the Relays going to be moved out to generic could be any suburb sports park? If so, what a shame.
I agree, Dax. The original plans to have it on campus were much better, but as you have pointed out before, KU isn't exactly swimming in cash right now. The track complex had to be privately financed in order to move forward with Memorial Stadium upgrades. My hope is that the community rec center and the suburban setting will actually be a positive for the non-revenue sports, since those sports don't attract much of a crowd usually anyways. Maybe families and surrounding communities will start to really embrace the sports complex and get involved with more of the non-revenue programs.
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3. Again, the track outside the stadium is the first step in removing the track from Memorial Stadium and moving forward with phase 1 of construction. The track complex is ahead of schedule and should be done well in time for the 2014 Kansas Relays.
At this point, there is no "phase 1" of construction. There must be some sort of master plan for there to be a phase 1 (ie- a phase 2,3, etc). Right now, it's Zenger trying to figure out how to raise money and a bunch of fans talking about it on the internet. We both know this is true.
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Beems, why did it take until 2014(estimated) to remove the track at a D1 football stadium? Seems like maybe football wasn't a priority or something. :dunno:
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this is lawrence high schools track. i mean hell i would have ksu run here for a year if it meant a better football stadium. honestly minus the bleachers there isnt that big of a difference
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Beems, why did it take until 2014(estimated) to remove the track at a D1 football stadium? Seems like maybe football wasn't a priority or something. :dunno:
For KU, I think the football complex was a bigger priority than removing the track. In fact, I look at the football complex and the recent stadium updates kind of like phase 1 of the masterplan for Memorial Stadium. When they built the football complex, they did multiple things to update the stadium's electrical grid and the surrounding landscaping. They also built drainage systems. It's no secret that KU is behind other schools when it comes to football programs (including K-State). I just have optimism when it comes to the future of the program and the future of Memorial Stadium.
:dunno:
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this is lawrence high schools track. i mean hell i would have ksu run here for a year if it meant a better football stadium. honestly minus the bleachers there isnt that big of a difference
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Could you imagine trying to recruit to a program that had to use high school facilities? KU is coming off of a national championship in track & field... they're trying to build off of that momentum. I know you only care about football, and that's fine, but some people enjoy when an athletic department is successful in multiple sports.
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The upgrades to AFH were done to satisfy Bill Self and help with maintaining recruiting at a high level.
Well that was pretty stupid considering Self's going to be bolting for the NBA anyday now.
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The upgrades to AFH were done to satisfy Bill Self and help with maintaining recruiting at a high level.
Well that was pretty stupid considering Self's going to be bolting for the NBA anyday now.
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this is lawrence high schools track. i mean hell i would have ksu run here for a year if it meant a better football stadium. honestly minus the bleachers there isnt that big of a difference
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Could you imagine trying to recruit to a program that had to use high school facilities? KU is coming off of a national championship in track & field... they're trying to build off of that momentum. I know you only care about football, and that's fine, but some people enjoy when an athletic department is successful in multiple sports.
Titletown beems, Titletown.
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i'm serious though. you ask me which house i'd rather live in and ten out of ten times i pick fritzels. i'd pick it over selfs too.
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Yeah, yeah, I get that. I'm just wondering why it took this long to even start? I mean, you just got locker rooms and practice fields within the last few years. Kstate built locker rooms like 25 years ago. :dunno:
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I just have optimism when it comes to the future of the program and the future of Memorial Stadium.
that's good that you have that at least
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I just have optimism when it comes to the future of the program and the future of Memorial Stadium.
that's good that you have that at least
Well, that, and some incredible memories and experiences during my days at KU (including a 12-1 Orange Bowl season and a national championship).
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I just have optimism when it comes to the future of the program and the future of Memorial Stadium.
that's good that you have that at least
Well, that, and some incredible memories and experiences during my days at KU (including a 12-1 Orange Bowl season and a national championship).
grats :thumbs:
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I just have optimism when it comes to the future of the program and the future of Memorial Stadium.
that's good that you have that at least
Well, that, and some incredible memories and experiences during my days at KU (including a 12-1 Orange Bowl season and a national championship).
Were you wearing an argyle sweater during those moments?
Argyle is in style!
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I just have optimism when it comes to the future of the program and the future of Memorial Stadium.
that's good that you have that at least
Well, that, and some incredible memories and experiences during my days at KU (including a 12-1 Orange Bowl season and a national championship).
grats :thumbs:
KU went 4-1 vs. the 'taters while I was at KU.
:dance:
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ku is trying to do something that very few schools can pull off and that is to be competitive in football and basketball. big donors who are used to writing checks towards basketball are being asked to now consider football. that's difficult to do when your football team hasn't won a conference game this decade. the good news for hawk fans is that if anyone can pull this fundraising feat off, it's a k-stater.
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I just have optimism when it comes to the future of the program and the future of Memorial Stadium.
that's good that you have that at least
Well, that, and some incredible memories and experiences during my days at KU (including a 12-1 Orange Bowl season and a national championship).
grats :thumbs:
KU went 4-1 vs. the 'taters while I was at KU.
:dance:
:surprised: that's awesome!
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KU is paying $1.3 million per year to lease a track??? Pffffffft, rofl :lol:
OMG, who's the donor, fritzel to Ku or Ku to fritzel??? :lol:
Just when you think they couldn't be anymore foolish with what little money they have, they, along with the taxpayers of Lawrence (who I assume are footing the bill for the improvements) get conned by one of their largest "donors".
You can't make this up folks.
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KU is paying $1.3 million per year to lease a track??? Pffffffft, rofl :lol:
OMG, who's the donor, fritzel to Ku or Ku to fritzel??? :lol:
Just when you think they couldn't be anymore foolish with what little money they have, they, along with the taxpayers of LawrenceKansas (who I assume are footing the bill for the improvements) get conned by one of their largest "donors".
You can't make this up folks.
FYP.
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this is lawrence high schools track. i mean hell i would have ksu run here for a year if it meant a better football stadium. honestly minus the bleachers there isnt that big of a difference
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Fun fact. See the baseball field? See the scoreboard? I pitched for the Lawrence Raiders (legion ball) my last summer before K-State. I was pitching and gave up a home run that smashed out the lights in the bottom of the 3rd inning box. I later saw it on the news that night on ch. 6 with me shaking my head like :dunno: <--- :lol:
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What is the 3rd inning box?
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What is the 3rd inning box?
bottom of the 3rd lights on the scoreboard.
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The rare KU Football Fan: It's always 2007 in their world.
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Hey look another really awesome irl fanning story :D
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The rare KU Football Fan: It's always 2007 in their world.
I went to K-State those same 5 seasons :cry:
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I would think our sweet spot is probably 55-60k, maybe a few more. I think seat backs would be cool, too. I am not sure how much that increases the footprint. It just seems like there isn't enough room between rows in the current configuration.
Some guy on Phog when asked about their reno
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I would think our sweet spot is probably 55-60k, maybe a few more. I think seat backs would be cool, too. I am not sure how much that increases the footprint. It just seems like there isn't enough room between rows in the current configuration.
Some guy on Phog when asked about their reno
55-60k. :lol:
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I would think our sweet spot is probably 55-60k, maybe a few more. I think seat backs would be cool, too. I am not sure how much that increases the footprint. It just seems like there isn't enough room between rows in the current configuration.
Some guy on Phog when asked about their reno
55-60k. :lol:
I thought K-State fans didn't care about overall capacity?
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I would think our sweet spot is probably 55-60k, maybe a few more. I think seat backs would be cool, too. I am not sure how much that increases the footprint. It just seems like there isn't enough room between rows in the current configuration.
Some guy on Phog when asked about their reno
55-60k. :lol:
Maybe a few more.
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The rare KU Football Fan: It's always 2007 in their world.
I went to K-State those same 5 seasons :cry:
Were you at K-State when KU rushed the field against Iowa State?
The only two schools I've ever seen rush a playing surface against ISU: Iowa and Kansas.
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The rare KU Football Fan: It's always 2007 in their world.
I went to K-State those same 5 seasons :cry:
Were you at K-State when KU rushed the field against Iowa State?
The only two schools I've ever seen rush a playing surface against ISU: Iowa and Kansas.
I can't tell if that's more of a jab at KU or Iowa State.
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The rare KU Football Fan: It's always 2007 in their world.
I went to K-State those same 5 seasons :cry:
Were you at K-State when KU rushed the field against Iowa State?
The only two schools I've ever seen rush a playing surface against ISU: Iowa and Kansas.
KSU did one time when they beat ISU in a Thursday night ESPN game. I believe it was 92 or around that time.
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The rare KU Football Fan: It's always 2007 in their world.
I went to K-State those same 5 seasons :cry:
Were you at K-State when KU rushed the field against Iowa State?
The only two schools I've ever seen rush a playing surface against ISU: Iowa and Kansas.
KSU did one time when they beat ISU in a Thursday night ESPN game. I believe it was 92 or around that time.
Uhhhh..... those teams were awful.
:lol:
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My gawd, the way we've driven ku to be better over the course of history is absolutely astounding. Gawd knows where Lil' Brother would be if it weren't for Big Brother K-State to be there to lead the way.
-1951 Ahearn Fieldhouse-Phog Allen has a complete meltdown, demands that the KU contingent over in Topeka find him the money for a new Fieldhouse. So dogged was the effort they finally found the money by making Allen Fieldhouse a Kansas National Guard Armory.
-1998 Memorial Stadium Renovations. Getting absolutely steam rolled by K-State on the field finally forces KUAD Bob Fredrick to make a handful of renovations to Memorial Stadium and try to elevate the 2nd worst football program in the Big 12 Conference.
-2002 Mark Mangino is hired by KU as head football coach. Things are so bad for KU that they've actually gone out and hired a former K-State assistant. The first demand that Mangino makes among many when hired is that he wants a dedicated football building "just like K-State has". Nearly 6 years later Mangino gets his wish, but sadly only occupies the building for a couple of years.
-2013 Angst laden KU football fans seeing their team in the midst of a 22 game conference losing streak and back to being the worst football program in the Big 12 Conference look down the road at nearly $100 million dollars worth of football facility improvements at Big 12 Football Champion K-State and demand action. Knowing there's even more facilities improvements on the way at K-State, former K-State athletic administrator and current KUAD Cheyenne Zulu hurridly enters into a 50 year lease deal to move significant portions of the KU athletic program to off campus venues in hopes that this well expedite long awaited and much needed improvements to Memorial Stadium. The drive to match K-State is nearly overwhelming in scope.
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My gawd, the way we've driven ku to be better over the course of history is absolutely astounding. Gawd knows where Lil' Brother would be if it weren't for Big Brother K-State to be there to lead the way.
-1951 Ahearn Fieldhouse-Phog Allen has a complete meltdown, demands that the KU contingent over in Topeka find him the money for a new Fieldhouse. So dogged was the effort they finally found the money by making Allen Fieldhouse a Kansas National Guard Armory.
-1998 Memorial Stadium Renovations. Getting absolutely steam rolled by K-State on the field finally forces KUAD Bob Fredrick to make a handful of renovations to Memorial Stadium and try to elevate the 2nd worst football program in the Big 12 Conference.
-2002 Mark Mangino is hired by KU as head football coach. Things are so bad for KU that they've actually gone out and hired a former K-State assistant. The first demand that Mangino makes among many when hired is that he wants a dedicated football building "just like K-State has". Nearly 6 years later Mangino gets his wish, but sadly only occupies the building for a couple of years.
-2013 Angst laden KU football fans seeing their team in the midst of a 22 game conference losing streak and back to being the worst football program in the Big 12 Conference look down the road at nearly $100 million dollars worth of football facility improvements at Big 12 Football Champion K-State and demand action. Knowing there's even more facilities improvements on the way at K-State, former K-State athletic administrator and current KUAD Cheyenne Zulu hurridly enters into a 50 year lease deal to move significant portions of the KU athletic program to off campus venues in hopes that this well expedite long awaited and much needed improvements to Memorial Stadium. The drive to match K-State is nearly overwhelming in scope.
lol, so much fun to read that. what exactly is KSU better at to make KU their lil bro?
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lol, so much fun to read that. what exactly is KSU better at to make KU their lil bro?
we're older, dumbass
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lol, so much fun to read that. what exactly is KSU better at to make KU their lil bro?
we're older, dumbass
so lil bro is whooping up on big bro!
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lol, beat us by 4 days. It looks like efforts were made for 2 years to make Manhattan the site of the state university, but the hobnobbers in Lawrence thwarted the efforts. And so it was, Manhattan became the state aggies under the Morrill act, and 4 days later the governor signed a bill to create the state University in Lawrence. That must sting to this very day.
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not sure if serious..
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Oh, no... I'm very serious.
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^my serious face.
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K-State: Forcing ku to raise its game for nearly 70 years.
Hell, if it weren't for K-State, I'd bet some of the KU Basketball Mafia would've moved to just drop football. Glen Mason got so fed up with the lack of attention paid to his program that he tried to escape to Georgia in the middle of the night. Had to be pretty frustrating for the man when he walked out into Memorial Stadium on 11-11-1995 with a Big 8 Championship on the line and realized that Corn fans occupied 75% of the seats in KU's Memorial Stadium. While the score was kind of lopsided, KU choked away opportunity after opportunity, but who can blame the boys for not being able to rally. There were maybe 20,000 actual KU fans in the stands.
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K-State: Forcing ku to raise its game for nearly 70 years.
Hell, if it weren't for K-State, I'd bet some of the KU Basketball Mafia would've moved to just drop football. Glen Mason got so fed up with the lack of attention paid to his program that he tried to escape to Georgia in the middle of the night. Had to be pretty frustrating for the man when he walked out into Memorial Stadium on 11-11-1995 with a Big 8 Championship on the line and realized that Corn fans occupied 75% of the seats in KU's Memorial Stadium. While the score was kind of lopsided, KU choked away opportunity after opportunity, but who can blame the boys for not being able to rally. There were maybe 20,000 actual KU fans in the stands.
I didn't know Memorial Stadium used to hold maybe 80,000 people. WOW. Thanks for the history lesson.
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K-State: Forcing ku to raise its game for nearly 70 years.
Hell, if it weren't for K-State, I'd bet some of the KU Basketball Mafia would've moved to just drop football. Glen Mason got so fed up with the lack of attention paid to his program that he tried to escape to Georgia in the middle of the night. Had to be pretty frustrating for the man when he walked out into Memorial Stadium on 11-11-1995 with a Big 8 Championship on the line and realized that Corn fans occupied 75% of the seats in KU's Memorial Stadium. While the score was kind of lopsided, KU choked away opportunity after opportunity, but who can blame the boys for not being able to rally. There were maybe 20,000 actual KU fans in the stands.
I didn't know Memorial Stadium used to hold maybe 80,000 people. WOW. Thanks for the history lesson.
You're being that guy Spracne: Captain Literal
Take a step back, realize this isn't phog.net or kusports.com or the Slant or K-statefans.com, this is the big leagues. Regroup for a bit, get some Gatorade and come back when you think you're ready.
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K-State: Forcing ku to raise its game for nearly 70 years.
Hell, if it weren't for K-State, I'd bet some of the KU Basketball Mafia would've moved to just drop football. Glen Mason got so fed up with the lack of attention paid to his program that he tried to escape to Georgia in the middle of the night. Had to be pretty frustrating for the man when he walked out into Memorial Stadium on 11-11-1995 with a Big 8 Championship on the line and realized that Corn fans occupied 75% of the seats in KU's Memorial Stadium. While the score was kind of lopsided, KU choked away opportunity after opportunity, but who can blame the boys for not being able to rally. There were maybe 20,000 actual KU fans in the stands.
I didn't know Memorial Stadium used to hold maybe 80,000 people. WOW. Thanks for the history lesson.
You're being that guy Spracne: Captain Literal
Take a step back, realize this isn't phog.net or kusports.com or the Slant or K-statefans.com, this is the big leagues. Regroup for a bit, get some Gatorade and come back when you think you're ready.
oh, okay coach...
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Are the fans in the cooling tent helping?
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skipped the tent, decided I needed a total decompression. Taking a 3 day, 2 night cruise to Port au Prince out of Port Galveston.
TOOT TOOT
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he mad
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Sprac, you need to wrap it up for the night, you're usually a b poster but you're quickly approaching t status.
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K, I'm gonna sit this one out
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Not cuz I care what you think, just cuz I want to.
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Spracne is a much better poster ever since (because?) I shamed him last year.
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Spracne is a much better poster ever since (because?) I shamed him last year.
i don't remember that, and i think it speaks to its truthfulness
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I like Spracne.
Also, love when dax gets on these rolls :love:
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K, I'm gonna sit this one out
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Not cuz I care what you think, just cuz I want to.
before this post i was all :don'tcare:
after i was all :lol:
silly puppy
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Spracne is my favorite KU poster.
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K-State: Forcing ku to raise its game for nearly 70 years.
Hell, if it weren't for K-State, I'd bet some of the KU Basketball Mafia would've moved to just drop football. Glen Mason got so fed up with the lack of attention paid to his program that he tried to escape to Georgia in the middle of the night. Had to be pretty frustrating for the man when he walked out into Memorial Stadium on 11-11-1995 with a Big 8 Championship on the line and realized that Corn fans occupied 75% of the seats in KU's Memorial Stadium. While the score was kind of lopsided, KU choked away opportunity after opportunity, but who can blame the boys for not being able to rally. There were maybe 20,000 actual KU fans in the stands.
I didn't know Memorial Stadium used to hold maybe 80,000 people. WOW. Thanks for the history lesson.
You're being that guy Spracne: Captain Literal
Take a step back, realize this isn't phog.net or kusports.com or the Slant or K-statefans.com, this is the big leagues. Regroup for a bit, get some Gatorade and come back when you think you're ready.
:lol:
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lol, beat us by 4 days. It looks like efforts were made for 2 years to make Manhattan the site of the state university, but the hobnobbers in Lawrence thwarted the efforts. And so it was, Manhattan became the state aggies under the Morrill act, and 4 days later the governor signed a bill to create the state University in Lawrence. That must sting to this very day.
Not so much. It took years for anything to get done, and when it did, it worked just like it does to this day. A K-Stater took charge, just like your current AD. The founder of the school of agriculture stepped up and designed your beloved KU campus, and for good measure, designed Emporia State's campus as well.
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lol, beat us by 4 days. It looks like efforts were made for 2 years to make Manhattan the site of the state university, but the hobnobbers in Lawrence thwarted the efforts. And so it was, Manhattan became the state aggies under the Morrill act, and 4 days later the governor signed a bill to create the state University in Lawrence. That must sting to this very day.
Not so much. It took years for anything to get done, and when it did, it worked just like it does to this day. A K-Stater took charge, just like your current AD. The founder of the school of agriculture stepped up and designed your beloved KU campus, and for good measure, designed Emporia State's campus as well.
Iowa State's Central Campus was designed by Frederick Law Olmsted, who designed Central Park in New York.
Suck it.
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lol, beat us by 4 days. It looks like efforts were made for 2 years to make Manhattan the site of the state university, but the hobnobbers in Lawrence thwarted the efforts. And so it was, Manhattan became the state aggies under the Morrill act, and 4 days later the governor signed a bill to create the state University in Lawrence. That must sting to this very day.
Not so much. It took years for anything to get done, and when it did, it worked just like it does to this day. A K-Stater took charge, just like your current AD. The founder of the school of agriculture stepped up and designed your beloved KU campus, and for good measure, designed Emporia State's campus as well.
Iowa State's Central Campus was designed by Frederick Law Olmsted, who designed Central Park in New York.
Suck it.
lol, beat us by 4 days. It looks like efforts were made for 2 years to make Manhattan the site of the state university, but the hobnobbers in Lawrence thwarted the efforts. And so it was, Manhattan became the state aggies under the Morrill act, and 4 days later the governor signed a bill to create the state University in Lawrence. That must sting to this very day.
Not so much. It took years for anything to get done, and when it did, it worked just like it does to this day. A K-Stater took charge, just like your current AD. The founder of the school of agriculture stepped up and designed your beloved KU campus, and for good measure, designed Emporia State's campus as well.
Iowa State's Central Campus was designed by Frederick Law Olmsted, who designed Central Park in New York.
Suck it.
Not that your post has any relevance to this topic but I'd like to point out that you couldn't be more wrong. That's the oldest myth in the books. :lol: Stupid Havs.
http://isuspecialcollections.wordpress.com/2011/09/19/iowa-states-central-campus-a-brief-history-and-a-myth/ (http://isuspecialcollections.wordpress.com/2011/09/19/iowa-states-central-campus-a-brief-history-and-a-myth/)
In conclusion, I must point out one major misconception often stated about who designed Iowa State’s early campus. Myths will inevitably start about an institution, and Iowa State is no exception! In the “Appeal to Alumni”, the author mentions that the Iowa State campus was designed by Frederick Law Olmsted. As stated above, this is in fact not the case. Iowa State’s first president, Adonijah Welch, designed much of the original campus. It is interesting, however, to see the long-standing assertion in an article written over 100 years ago. This myth still continues to this day, but hopefully readers of this blog post can help straighten the record
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Was it designed well?
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lol, beat us by 4 days. It looks like efforts were made for 2 years to make Manhattan the site of the state university, but the hobnobbers in Lawrence thwarted the efforts. And so it was, Manhattan became the state aggies under the Morrill act, and 4 days later the governor signed a bill to create the state University in Lawrence. That must sting to this very day.
Not so much. It took years for anything to get done, and when it did, it worked just like it does to this day. A K-Stater took charge, just like your current AD. The founder of the school of agriculture stepped up and designed your beloved KU campus, and for good measure, designed Emporia State's campus as well.
Iowa State's Central Campus was designed by Frederick Law Olmsted, who designed Central Park in New York.
Suck it.
Adorable when people get all tuff and stuff, especially when they're wrong.
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Iowa State is better than Kansas State: Fact.
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This is worse than finding out Santa isnt real.
:goodbyecruelworld:
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:sdeek:
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Iowa State is better than Kansas State: Fact.
That's weird cause we're better than you at like everything on earth. Hell, you guys aren't even better than Skunk Creek. (Would it kill you guys to build a dam or something?)
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This is worse than finding out Santa isnt real.
:goodbyecruelworld:
Move to "had a bad day" thread?
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Iowa State is better than Kansas State: Fact.
Absolutely adorable. :D
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This is worse than finding out Santa isnt real.
:goodbyecruelworld:
Move to "had a bad day" thread?
Im going on vacation tomorrow. Much needed vacation.
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This is worse than finding out Santa isnt real.
:goodbyecruelworld:
Move to "had a bad day" thread?
Im going on vacation tomorrow. Much needed vacation.
Enjoy your vaca bud!! :)
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This is worse than finding out Santa isnt real.
:goodbyecruelworld:
Move to "had a bad day" thread?
Im going on vacation tomorrow. Much needed vacation.
get drunk and get laid, bruh.
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This is worse than finding out Santa isnt real.
:goodbyecruelworld:
Move to "had a bad day" thread?
Im going on vacation tomorrow. Much needed vacation.
get drunk and get laid, bruh.
Thanks guys!!!
:driving:
:cheers:
:crossfingers:
:pray:
:excited:
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I really want our next phase to be released before KU releases anything, just so I can observe the phog
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I really want our next phase to be released before KU releases anything, just so I can observe the phog
It's really great over there. Amazing to watch all the shots they take at our stadium. They dig pretty deep.
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I really want our next phase to be released before KU releases anything, just so I can observe the phog
It's really great over there. Amazing to watch all the shots they take at our stadium. They dig pretty deep.
yeah. they are pretty fantastic. really enjoyed this:
Someone's scared.
Obviously when KU does Memorial Stadium it will be better than KSU's field. It's KU after all. KSU is like the guy who gets the year old Mustang on your street. He hand washes it every Saturday. He makes it look like new. The envy of the block he thinks. Then a few weeks after he gets it the really cool rich guy in the neighborhood pulls up in his brand new Ferrari. Must suck.
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Actually KSU is kind of like the guy who has an one hundred million dollar car and KU is kind of like the guy who lives in a completely different neighborhood but spends a lot of time talking about how he's totally going to get a nicer car than KSU, someday, just you wait.
I'll prob get banned again :embarrassed:
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I really want our next phase to be released before KU releases anything, just so I can observe the phog
It's really great over there. Amazing to watch all the shots they take at our stadium. They dig pretty deep.
yeah. they are pretty fantastic. really enjoyed this:
Someone's scared.
Obviously when KU does Memorial Stadium it will be better than KSU's field. It's KU after all. KSU is like the guy who gets the year old Mustang on your street. He hand washes it every Saturday. He makes it look like new. The envy of the block he thinks. Then a few weeks after he gets it the really cool rich guy in the neighborhood pulls up in his brand new Ferrari. Must suck.
This is why ta is bitb.
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What a shocker; the stadium still blows this year despite the track removal. The restroom floors were flooded last November when I went to the K-State game, and it sounds like they couldn't even afford to have a plumber fix the leaks during the offseason. Either that or the administration just doesn't care about the fan experience. :frown:
Not to pile on but I will add that the facilities are an absolute joke as well. last week the entire bathroom was flooded and this week the water to wash your hands was scalding hot and the pressure so high that to put your hands under it meant you would get drenched with it. Obviously we have bigger problems beyond the bathrooms but it just highlights how high school our entire stadium is, even with the track removed.
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What a shocker; the stadium still blows this year despite the track removal. The restroom floors were flooded last November when I went to the K-State game, and it sounds like they couldn't even afford to have a plumber fix the leaks during the offseason. Either that or the administration just doesn't care about the fan experience. :frown:
Not to pile on but I will add that the facilities are an absolute joke as well. last week the entire bathroom was flooded and this week the water to wash your hands was scalding hot and the pressure so high that to put your hands under it meant you would get drenched with it. Obviously we have bigger problems beyond the bathrooms but it just highlights how high school our entire stadium is, even with the track removed.
the track was topical, what they need is a major infrastructure renovation, which is YEARS away
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lol, beat us by 4 days. It looks like efforts were made for 2 years to make Manhattan the site of the state university, but the hobnobbers in Lawrence thwarted the efforts. And so it was, Manhattan became the state aggies under the Morrill act, and 4 days later the governor signed a bill to create the state University in Lawrence. That must sting to this very day.
Not so much. It took years for anything to get done, and when it did, it worked just like it does to this day. A K-Stater took charge, just like your current AD. The founder of the school of agriculture stepped up and designed your beloved KU campus, and for good measure, designed Emporia State's campus as well.
Iowa State's Central Campus was designed by Frederick Law Olmsted, who designed Central Park in New York.
Suck it.
If I’m being honest, this still stings.
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Those were different days, SB <3
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The character arcs of some of the bloggers on this site over the years has been inspiring.