Turns out you can kick balls in volleyball. I did not know this.
I know coaches that would sling your sorry ass if you ever stuck your foot out there like you were going to do something with it.
Turns out you can kick balls in volleyball. I did not know this.
great win vs ku tonight, 4-1. what's that like 15-1 now? lulz, jeez ksu.
Cat's beat KU last night 3-1. i guess that makes things 18-1 or something ridiculous.
Twenty wins, back to the NCAA, Donahue is a strong contender for conference POY as a Sophomore, one senior on the squad. Ol' Suzie has rebuilt a monster.
Twenty wins, back to the NCAA, Donahue is a strong contender for conference POY as a Sophomore, one senior on the squad. Ol' Suzie has rebuilt a monster.
donahue is also a strong contender to be stalked by clams.
Good for them since the German can't teach serving for crap.
Aces per setGood for them since the German can't teach serving for crap.
I sincerely hope you aren't referring to Suzie, because in your long posting history of talking out of your ass this would be the absolute worst. Since she's been the head coach no conference school has more aces. K-State has been 1st in the conferences for # of aces four times since she took over and has never been lower than fifth.
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Aces per setGood for them since the German can't teach serving for crap.
I sincerely hope you aren't referring to Suzie, because in your long posting history of talking out of your ass this would be the absolute worst. Since she's been the head coach no conference school has more aces. K-State has been 1st in the conferences for # of aces four times since she took over and has never been lower than fifth.
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http://www.ncaa.com/stats/volleyball-women/d1/current/team/48/p3
Hitting is behind KU for christ sake
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http://www.ncaa.com/stats/volleyball-women/d1/current/team/45/p3
yes we were 5th this year. Clearly you haven't watched or listen to many games. When you let Mizzou and KU back into matches because of services errors there is a serious issues.
Also we have no players in the top 10 of services aces.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=10410&CONTENT_ID=161837
KSU v KU stats (correct me if I'm wrong SA: Services Aces, SE: Services errors)
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?CONTENT_ID=172757&DB_OEM_ID=10410#GAME.BOX
9 Errors to 2 Aces.
Their best win against SECaggie was due to bringing that ratio back to a positive level
http://www.big12sports.com//ViewContent.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&CONTENT_ID=170256
Her philosophy is that you aren't hitting hard enough if you aren't making errors. Trying to run a razor thing margin like that is ok when you have superior talent and players on horse roids like NU, Penn St, UT. K-State needs to get the ball in play when possible to prevent rally killing points from being given away.
you do bring up a valid point with the attempted Ace in favor of allowing a team with superior talent to setup their return play. You don't want to give away service, that is 100% correct. However there is a difference between aggressive service and having an acceptable number of services errors. You should strive to limit returns and errors, not say that errors are a factor of being overly aggressive. Good point though, I'll watch for that more in the future.Aces per setGood for them since the German can't teach serving for crap.
I sincerely hope you aren't referring to Suzie, because in your long posting history of talking out of your ass this would be the absolute worst. Since she's been the head coach no conference school has more aces. K-State has been 1st in the conferences for # of aces four times since she took over and has never been lower than fifth.
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http://www.ncaa.com/stats/volleyball-women/d1/current/team/48/p3
Hitting is behind KU for christ sake
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http://www.ncaa.com/stats/volleyball-women/d1/current/team/45/p3
yes we were 5th this year. Clearly you haven't watched or listen to many games. When you let Mizzou and KU back into matches because of services errors there is a serious issues.
Also we have no players in the top 10 of services aces.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=10410&CONTENT_ID=161837
KSU v KU stats (correct me if I'm wrong SA: Services Aces, SE: Services errors)
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?CONTENT_ID=172757&DB_OEM_ID=10410#GAME.BOX
9 Errors to 2 Aces.
Their best win against SECaggie was due to bringing that ratio back to a positive level
http://www.big12sports.com//ViewContent.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&CONTENT_ID=170256
Her philosophy is that you aren't hitting hard enough if you aren't making errors. Trying to run a razor thing margin like that is ok when you have superior talent and players on horse roids like NU, Penn St, UT. K-State needs to get the ball in play when possible to prevent rally killing points from being given away.
I completely disagree with that. If you think you have inferior talent, I am not saying Suzie ascribes to this line of thinking just using your talking point, you don't want to be lobbing serves over the net and let your opponent, who gets the first swing on a serve receive, tee off on you. If your opponent has better hitters the last thing you want to do is get into a swinging match with them, you have to win points other ways, hence you having inferior hitters. The point of aggressive serving isn't necessarily to get aces but to disrupt the offense of the receiving team.
You said she "can't teach serving for crap.". She has no problem "teaching serving" whatever that means you are opposed to her philosophy, that doesn't mean she can't teach serving. I understand it can be frustrating to watch so many serves careen into the net, but her philosophy serves a purpose whether you agree with it or not.
Sweet 16 baby! Beat Nebraska in Lincoln. Beat the #2 overall. We even had the band there!
Sweet 16 baby! Beat Nebraska in Lincoln. Beat the #2 overall. We even had the band there!
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Sweet 16 baby! Beat Nebraska in Lincoln. Beat the #2 overall. We even had the band there!Eh, I'm pretty sure that was a recording.
Sweet 16 baby! Beat Nebraska in Lincoln. Beat the #2 overall. We even had the band there!Eh, I'm pretty sure that was a recording.
Sweet 16 baby! Beat Nebraska in Lincoln. Beat the #2 overall. We even had the band there!Eh, I'm pretty sure that was a recording.
OH HOLY crap!!!! Easily the greatest win in the history of the program. :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid:
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They are all kinds of out of whack. Let's hope that pancake dig non call doesn't break them
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How did K-State get to bring their band? More cheerleaders than NU? Plus a yell-leader?
Nebraska had trouble passing all night and they were out of position. If you have those two issues, it doesn't matter how great of hitters you have since you can't get them the ball.
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Astounding. This team is better than this.
Hats off to K-State. They played the match of their lives tonight.
I agree with you knapp. This team has been out of whack since the whole Lauren thing. KSU played great, and I won't take anything away from them, but this has been a different team the last month.
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Werth with the kill set point 24-22
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Werth with another kill Huskers win Set 4 25-22
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Here we go with Set 5 - a game to 15
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2-0 KSU we need to block better
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2-1 KSU - back row hit by Morgan B
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4-2 KSU
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We are only sending 1 blocker to their hitters and we are getting burned 5-3 them
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Tied at 5
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7-5 them
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8-5 them we just are not sharp tonight and they are playing very well. We are not blocking well enough and they are winning all the points at the net.
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Big comeback needed!
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Double hit on them 8-6
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9-6 them, they are just quicker tonight.
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10-8
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Timeout 11-8 puddy cats
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We're down in the 5th set?
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Yes 12 to 8, cook just took his second timeout.
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12-9 on a Mancuso kill
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12-10 Wilberger gets the kill
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13-11 them - Werth with the kill
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WE are in the net 14-11 them - Match point
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15-11 Them Season over
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Crap. Just didn't peak at the right time. Wonder just how much the "distraction" played a part. Great season. Great team. Next year ladies.
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Just were slow tonight and didn't block well.
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Let me be the first to state the obvious: what an effing monumental disaster.
The team was ranked in the top three for most of the season, then the coach's little princess ran somebody over with her car, and the season went down the sh!tter.
I have to be honest with you, I'm not going to miss Coach Cook's annual chokes in the tournament when he finally leaves. The team should have been in the Final Four for sure.
Massive freaking choke. In my opinion, Coach's Little Princess should take her hit and run action elsewhere.
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I only really pay attention to the K-State V-Ball team, so I was "surprised" while doing a little reading out there on that Internet to discover that the Cornhole V-Ball coach is quite possibly kind of a douche.yeah their coach is a d-bag. Tried to start a fight with U of Washington's coach who use to be our coach (Jim McLaughlin), because of a controversial call.
Am I correct in that assessment?
Does Cornhole roid up their V-ball players as well?
that NU win was legendary. A shame people it doesn't resonate w/the average fan.
that NU win was legendary. A shame people it doesn't resonate w/the average fan.i talked lots of crap about it. Got in some NU fans faces.
then the coach's little princess ran somebody over with her car, and the season went down the sh!tter.
that's great news salcat
That was a tall boot showdown.
And not to get gpcy, but the girls are cute too. I was walking behind two of them this afternoon and :eek:
And not to get gpcy, but the girls are cute too.
Wait, I thought you said you weren't going to get gpcy?
If youre a current student, there's nohing gpcy about ogling some volleyball chicks.
Quotethen the coach's little princess ran somebody over with her car, and the season went down the sh!tter.
song as old as rhyme
If youre a current student, there's nohing gpcy about ogling some volleyball chicks.
if that's the reason you are going to the games then there certainly is
This Saturday evening at 6PM should work great for everyone! :thumbsup:
This Saturday evening at 6PM should work great for everyone! :thumbsup:Not a fan of that start time. I thought they should have moved it closer to the end of the football game.
we're good, but we haven't played anyone with a pulse yet
we're good, but we haven't played anyone with a pulse yet
Beat #10 Minnesota
11-0 now. :emawkid:
8MP lets go to a game, ok? ok
8MP lets go to a game, ok? ok
Only K-State and Oregon are undefeated in volleyball AND football this year!!!
Only K-State and Oregon are undefeated in volleyball AND football this year!!!
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you know I love you mr boston lets all go get our purple pit on they play this saturday at 3 :dunno:8MP lets go to a game, ok? ok
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Last time we won B12 V Ball, we also won B12 Football and WBB. :driving:
so apparently ISU fans stormed the court (court?) after beating NU the other day. now officially the "weird" fanbase in the confy after aTm's departure.MIR is so gonna beat you up
you know I love you mr boston lets all go get our purple pit on they play this saturday at 3 :dunno:8MP lets go to a game, ok? ok
:dubious:
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so apparently ISU fans stormed the court (court?) after beating NU the other day.
so apparently ISU fans stormed the court (court?) after beating NU the other day. now officially the "weird" fanbase in the confy after aTm's departure.MIR is so gonna beat you up
it's hard to not have mob mentality when you're around nubb anything, really. completely understandable. go spikeclones :party:so apparently ISU fans stormed the court (court?) after beating NU the other day. now officially the "weird" fanbase in the confy after aTm's departure.MIR is so gonna beat you up
Yeah Nebraska was #1 in the country and it was the first time ISU had ever beat NU in Ames. Is court storming only for boy sports? Seems this was a very appropriate court storming.
:frown: so much for the Big 12 title
WVU coming to town Thursday night. As some k-state0 sports casters would say, the tilt will be at 7pm.I'll try to go to that. For sure will go to the ISU game.
:frown: so much for the Big 12 title
I wouldn't go that far. I was pissed about how poor we looked but OU is the 4th best team in the conference, we're not talking about a loss to West Virginia. Pro tip, they suck.
thx wints, grabs some pics pls and post them in this thread. the sexier the better :fatty:kinda gopofitzy0 right?
:dance: :party:
holy crap we have some really talented girls
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974595.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974697.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974579.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974682.jpeg)
unfortunately, Ed is a good percentage of women's volleyball fans:confused:
I think West Virginia is terrible. Good sweep tonight. (i think)where did you sit?
We got there pretty late. We sat in upper west side.I think West Virginia is terrible. Good sweep tonight. (i think)where did you sit?
crap, kkk 8mp stevesie etc. farmageddon is next wednesday? ehhFree shirts! I'll be there.
OT: can someone tell me how to save pictures to my hard drive?treat our young ladies with some respect :curse:
crap, kkk 8mp stevesie etc. farmageddon is next wednesday? ehhFree shirts! I'll be there.
holy crap we have some really talented girls:drool:
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974595.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974697.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974579.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974682.jpeg)
holy crap we have some really talented girls:drool:
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974595.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974697.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974579.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974682.jpeg)
well instead of waiting for SD to respond (probably abusing himself right now) I have to say I was very impressed with the hitting, particularly the swing hit setups. Setting has been fan-freaking-tastic. Team looks much more atheltic/fit this year. Blocking was pretty damn good. Loved Donaghue's touches over the lazy block off the fake sets, I think 2 worked, 1 bearly out.
right.......well instead of waiting for SD to respond (probably abusing himself right now) I have to say I was very impressed with the hitting, particularly the swing hit setups. Setting has been fan-freaking-tastic. Team looks much more atheltic/fit this year. Blocking was pretty damn good. Loved Donaghue's touches over the lazy block off the fake sets, I think 2 worked, 1 bearly out.
with all due respect, stop. Keep going to matches though.
Next week is the biggest week of regular season matches in Kansas State Volleyball history, hope there's huge crowds at Ahearn. And yes WVU sucks, easily the worst team in the conference.
:thumbs:holy crap we have some really talented girls:drool:
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974595.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974697.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974579.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974682.jpeg)
i wish there was a craiglist section just for our girls volleyball players (http://imageshack.us/a/img10/8894/droolxx.gif)
crap, kkk 8mp stevesie etc. farmageddon is next wednesday? ehh
swept Baylor
anyone going tonight?
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anyone going tonight?
:peek:We'll see you there seven.
I might have to go alone being that the miss is not feeling well. Maybe I'll do my best Fitz and act a creeper.swept BaylorDo you want to sit together ednksu? :D
anyone going tonight?
you guys got this on TV?
you on Cox kansas? It seems to be some big 10 game or something....you guys got this on TV?
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nice comeback, ebb and comeback againI was pretty pumped!
winters must be fist pumping all over the place after that
Are we ever going to be on tv again? My TiVo says "no".
WTF?
Are we ever going to be on tv again? My TiVo says "no".
WTF?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0)
Are we ever going to be on tv again? My TiVo says "no".
WTF?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0)
have you asked currie? just wondering what his official line on all of it is.
Are we ever going to be on tv again? My TiVo says "no".
WTF?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0)
have you asked currie? just wondering what his official line on all of it is.
Why would I? It's not like I would get a tangible answer. When he strikes a deal it will certainly be mentioned in his weekly email and/or a press release.
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need a broom emoticon
Would it be a good thing here?
but we lost to OU and UT (at home no less) in straight sets.......philosoraptor asks you square that circleneed a broom emoticon
Would it be a good thing here?
we beat TCU in 3 sets last night, but to answer your question it would be irrelevant here. Good teams beat shitty teams in 3, its expected.
what a rough ridin' embarrassment
the block was rough ridin' worthless all night
hitting was atrocious, completely lack of court awareness, complete lack of innovation. KU could return the majority of our hits with one player on the court.
yeah I was discussing the hitting in relation to passing with my GF who has a higher vbiq than me. She did note that there were many passes which left Donahue searching for any kind of a way to get it to a hitter.what a rough ridin' embarrassment
the block was rough ridin' worthless all night
hitting was atrocious, completely lack of court awareness, complete lack of innovation. KU could return the majority of our hits with one player on the court.
Yeah that's a passing issue not a hitting issue, the defense was bad. If you don't pass you are hitting 4 balls all night long.
yeah I was discussing the hitting in relation to passing with my GF who has a higher vbiq than me. She did note that there were many passes which left Donahue searching for any kind of a way to get it to a hitter.what a rough ridin' embarrassment
the block was rough ridin' worthless all night
hitting was atrocious, completely lack of court awareness, complete lack of innovation. KU could return the majority of our hits with one player on the court.
Yeah that's a passing issue not a hitting issue, the defense was bad. If you don't pass you are hitting 4 balls all night long.
But the hitting when good sets were in place were unimaginative and predictable. There were honestly series in the 2nd and 4th sets where KU could have had one player on the court to dig the hit. Same spot, just awful.
Did you see Donahue's great backwards tip set in the 2nd? Pure genius.
I really don't know how Porubek is seeing all that much time. Very lazy play from here tonight. Poor footwork getting to places, reaching way too much, poor service.
They are really scuffling right now, better turn it around quickly.
choppy 3rd set that we dropped, people trying to do too much.I did not.
4th set wasn't bad, never quite put them away like we could have.
Winters or MiR make it over?
losers
currently in meltdown mode about Fritz. Same crap different match. Absolutely horrid game plan going into this match up. KU knew exactly where all our hitters were going, I swear I could put a X on the court and the vast majority of hits would be on it. (x would not be the entire court :dubious:) I have to also believe the number of tip overs instead of hits had to be game plan related. No way were all those the result of adjustments to poor service (which Donahue very rarely does anyway).
currently in meltdown mode about Fritz. Same crap different match. Absolutely horrid game plan going into this match up. KU knew exactly where all our hitters were going, I swear I could put a X on the court and the vast majority of hits would be on it. (x would not be the entire court :dubious:) I have to also believe the number of tip overs instead of hits had to be game plan related. No way were all those the result of adjustments to poor service (which Donahue very rarely does anyway).
jesus christ, guy
currently in meltdown mode about Fritz. Same crap different match. Absolutely horrid game plan going into this match up. KU knew exactly where all our hitters were going, I swear I could put a X on the court and the vast majority of hits would be on it. (x would not be the entire court :dubious:) I have to also believe the number of tip overs instead of hits had to be game plan related. No way were all those the result of adjustments to poor service (which Donahue very rarely does anyway).
jesus christ, guy
Stepping back from the keyboard for a bit has let me consider somethings, just like last season, still don't think Fritz is right.
Hitting is atrocious. I really should find some way to review footage, but last night and all the other games I've been to let me believe that they are trained to hit to a location on the court way too much. When KU is able to position one player to dig a lot of hits with multiple rotations, the proof is there. Our hitters are dynamic and athletic enough to do something else, save Porubek who require a perfect set to get a decent hit and than it is going to the same spot almost every time.
Too many of last nights failures rest on Fritz's game plan. There is no way the number of tip overs while in hitting position wasn't game plan related. It caught KU a few times, but more often than not, they had the short play covered behind the block. Another game plan issue or game prep issue was the block. Absolutely horrid last night. They were constantly biting on the fake to one hitter only to have it go to a secondary hitter who was in better position. The block was CONSTANTLY off on timing. That level of failure at this level of play has to be game planning, thinking KU was playing fast to first hitters. Not only that there were so many opportuntiies for in game adjustment here. We had too many net calls from poor positioning and way too many KU rallies which were not stemmed by timeouts. I can think of one time we scored coming out of the time out, the rest of the time out were slight interruptions to KU's charge.
yeah I was discussing the hitting in relation to passing with my GF who has a higher vbiq than me. She did note that there were many passes which left Donahue searching for any kind of a way to get it to a hitter.what a rough ridin' embarrassment
the block was rough ridin' worthless all night
hitting was atrocious, completely lack of court awareness, complete lack of innovation. KU could return the majority of our hits with one player on the court.
Yeah that's a passing issue not a hitting issue, the defense was bad. If you don't pass you are hitting 4 balls all night long.
But the hitting when good sets were in place were unimaginative and predictable. There were honestly series in the 2nd and 4th sets where KU could have had one player on the court to dig the hit. Same spot, just awful.
Did you see Donahue's great backwards tip set in the 2nd? Pure genius.
I really don't know how Porubek is seeing all that much time. Very lazy play from here tonight. Poor footwork getting to places, reaching way too much, poor service.
Some of that KU defense is attributable to scouting. Bechard is Fritz's mentor, he's well aware of what we run because he taught her. They have always played us tough relative to their inferior talent. The defense, if played well can force hitters to hit at certain spots at that point its up to one or two back row players, depending on where you're attempting to force outside hitters to defend that place, somedays are better than others. I haven't seen KU outside ood our match to know how they are defending but I'm guessing that they are aggressively blocking line while fanning the other front row player wide & short leaving 2 back row players to defend a lot of court playing the angle off of the middle blocker.
The best way to beat this defense is to feed the middle quicks so that the blockers have to hesitate when going outside. When your passing is trash your hitting is predictable and blockers can force you to hit to the middle of the floor.
BTW Lila is our second best hitter, I love her one of my favorite players ever. Her issue isn't laziness its frankly her fitness or lack thereof.
currently in meltdown mode about Fritz. Same crap different match. Absolutely horrid game plan going into this match up. KU knew exactly where all our hitters were going, I swear I could put a X on the court and the vast majority of hits would be on it. (x would not be the entire court :dubious:) I have to also believe the number of tip overs instead of hits had to be game plan related. No way were all those the result of adjustments to poor service (which Donahue very rarely does anyway).
jesus christ, guy
Stepping back from the keyboard for a bit has let me consider somethings, just like last season, still don't think Fritz is right.
Hitting is atrocious. I really should find some way to review footage, but last night and all the other games I've been to let me believe that they are trained to hit to a location on the court way too much. When KU is able to position one player to dig a lot of hits with multiple rotations, the proof is there. Our hitters are dynamic and athletic enough to do something else, save Porubek who require a perfect set to get a decent hit and than it is going to the same spot almost every time.
Too many of last nights failures rest on Fritz's game plan. There is no way the number of tip overs while in hitting position wasn't game plan related. It caught KU a few times, but more often than not, they had the short play covered behind the block. Another game plan issue or game prep issue was the block. Absolutely horrid last night. They were constantly biting on the fake to one hitter only to have it go to a secondary hitter who was in better position. The block was CONSTANTLY off on timing. That level of failure at this level of play has to be game planning, thinking KU was playing fast to first hitters. Not only that there were so many opportuntiies for in game adjustment here. We had too many net calls from poor positioning and way too many KU rallies which were not stemmed by timeouts. I can think of one time we scored coming out of the time out, the rest of the time out were slight interruptions to KU's charge.
I've played and coached volleyball for 20 years. If I could #humblebrag for a second I have had personal coaching instruction from Dr. Carl McGown, Dr. Doug Beal, Dr. Marv Dunphy, Jim McLaughlin and Hugh McCutcheon. This is absurd. It's opinion so I can't say you're wrong but the flawed logic is completely off the reservation. It's VLVBIQ dressed up as something else. I explained this after your last meltdown, either you didn't read it or didn't understand it. You are completely barking up the wrong tree here.
http://deadspin.com/5959549/girl-takes-volleyball-spike-off-the-face-ricochet-takes-out-spectator (http://deadspin.com/5959549/girl-takes-volleyball-spike-off-the-face-ricochet-takes-out-spectator)
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http://deadspin.com/5959549/girl-takes-volleyball-spike-off-the-face-ricochet-takes-out-spectator (http://deadspin.com/5959549/girl-takes-volleyball-spike-off-the-face-ricochet-takes-out-spectator)
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Resident Vball experts. Is Fritz on the hot seat in any way?
I don't know, it just seems like the glass ceiling has been hit, albeit the Big 12 is a pretty decent Vball conference from my observation, but would it be Top 3?
Going back to Lincoln afuckingain to play UNI in the first round. Third time to Nubb in last 4 tourney trips. The selection committee blows.
Grats to KU hosting for the first time ever :tsc: potential second round matchup with the Wheat Shockers.
Okay.
So, keeping expectations to NCAA tourney appearences. Don't expect conference championship trophies and pretty much don't expect any national titles.
A nice little program. Fair enough.
Thks
Going back to Lincoln afuckingain to play UNI in the first round. Third time to Nubb in last 4 tourney trips. The selection committee blows.
Grats to KU hosting for the first time ever :tsc: potential second round matchup with the Wheat Shockers.
Was WSU qualifying as an at-large a bit of a suprise? Seems like the local media made it seem as if winning the tournament was their only shot... Then again, I haven't followed the team as closely this year as I had previously.
And I really think MiR is wrong about what it takes to achieve this level of success in volleyball.
:flush: completely awful mercy killing to end the seasonSorry I'm a bit distracted.And I really think MiR is wrong about what it takes to achieve this level of success in volleyball.
What the eff does this mean?
author=ednksu link=topic=15182.msg680807#msg680807 date=1354234343]:flush: completely awful mercy killing to end the seasonSorry I'm a bit distracted.And I really think MiR is wrong about what it takes to achieve this level of success in volleyball.
What the eff does this mean?
In your previous post you put a lot of effort in explaining to Dax the level of success Fritz has had. I'm not going to get into top tier WVB teams because the parity systems in any women's sports are so out of whack. I think to be a solid second tier team that collects a conference champ every 5 to 8 years or so requires less than you expect. I'm honestly not sure what other teams have that we don't to preface my points. We now have a dedicated facility, although its not glitzy does have some good attributes. I don't know what access the WVB team has to various training facilities. I'll assume they have the run of Ahearn? That seems like a fair enough foundation for a good second tier team. I would say there is a significant amount of coaching up players to make wins. I think your explanation of why KU is able to give us stiff competition and in this year dominate us, twice, shows this talking point is weak. Now I will grant that you can't coach em up into league titles yearly or compete with the PSUs of the WVB world consistently. Are we than talking about coach pay to retain or get the best coaches? Maybe you could speak to the pay scales here. I would suspect there is a significant gap between the first tier teams and the second tier teams. I don't know where Fritz's pay would fit into that hierarchy.
Anyways, just some thoughts. As you put it, a fine mercy killing for this season.
K-State V-Ball has a nice dressing room and players lounge. There have been multiple upgrades to Ahearn: new seating, paint job, scoreboards, they got a new court a few years ago. Certainly a very fine facility for Volleyball has been created.
We should expect more than that embarrassment this afternoon.
Quoteauthor=ednksu link=topic=15182.msg680807#msg680807 date=1354234343]:flush: completely awful mercy killing to end the seasonSorry I'm a bit distracted.And I really think MiR is wrong about what it takes to achieve this level of success in volleyball.
What the eff does this mean?
In your previous post you put a lot of effort in explaining to Dax the level of success Fritz has had. I'm not going to get into top tier WVB teams because the parity systems in any women's sports are so out of whack. I think to be a solid second tier team that collects a conference champ every 5 to 8 years or so requires less than you expect. I'm honestly not sure what other teams have that we don't to preface my points. We now have a dedicated facility, although its not glitzy does have some good attributes. I don't know what access the WVB team has to various training facilities. I'll assume they have the run of Ahearn? That seems like a fair enough foundation for a good second tier team. I would say there is a significant amount of coaching up players to make wins. I think your explanation of why KU is able to give us stiff competition and in this year dominate us, twice, shows this talking point is weak. Now I will grant that you can't coach em up into league titles yearly or compete with the PSUs of the WVB world consistently. Are we than talking about coach pay to retain or get the best coaches? Maybe you could speak to the pay scales here. I would suspect there is a significant gap between the first tier teams and the second tier teams. I don't know where Fritz's pay would fit into that hierarchy.
Anyways, just some thoughts. As you put it, a fine mercy killing for this season.K-State V-Ball has a nice dressing room and players lounge. There have been multiple upgrades to Ahearn: new seating, paint job, scoreboards, they got a new court a few years ago. Certainly a very fine facility for Volleyball has been created.
We should expect more than that embarrassment this afternoon.
I'll address dax' post first since it appears once again to be a troll, because frankly you are smarter than this. It is painfully obvious that you haven't seen any of the facilities you are touting. Did you seriously list a scoreboard that is more limited than some high school boards and some purple paint on red benches as improvements that should help the program? Stupid and you know it. That dressing room upgrade improved dressing rooms that were 50 years old. I've seen our facility and others. Instead of assuming that we have a "very fine facility" I'll tell you firsthand that we have an okay facility. Ahearn is good simply because of the fans and they are there because we've won consistently for 15 years.
Even if we had amazing facilities that has no correlation to on field results and you know that, absurd for you to attempt to.
Edn, there isn't a second tier program that wins the conference every 5-8 years, those are top programs. If you know of a second tier program in volleyball, let me know. I can't think of one in basketball either. We are firmly in the second tier. We have been a top 20 team for 15 years.
Money is important for not only head coaches salaries, but for assistant salaries and most importantly recruiting. Our budget is okay, we are absolutely out performing our peers in this regard.
I have no idea what you meant by your KU point. They beat us this year because they are better. I don't know what that has to do with the state of the program. Their coach, Ray Bechard, has been at KU for 15 years and this is literally the first season hes been better than KSU. You'll have to explain that analogy to me. Are you proposing we strive to their lack of long term success?
Like I said before, why would you not only fire but even consider firing someone who has consistently out performed her peers. She's fourth in the history of the conference in wins, the program is third in conference history in wins. How confident are you that someone could match that?
As far as today goes, I'd love to know what is going on behind the scenes, that completely turned this season around. We looked like final four contenders, now they are as bad as I've seen a K-State team ever. Suzie said earlier in the week that some players had some personal stuff, I know of one, but certainly it isn't causing this, I don't think. Anyway I'm glad this season is over so we can move on to spring ball & next season. Can't believe we're at this point.
~You said for years KU has been competitive with weaker talent, because their coach knew our coaches system
The bottom line is this, significant effort has been made over the years to keep K-State Volleyball up to speed with quality facilities. I knew Ahearn prior to volleyball getting all of those improvements backwards and forwards and back again, I spent day after day after day in there. I believe Volleyball now occupies either the former men's basketball offices or the former AD's offices, which used to be the nicest offices the K-State athletics had, and I believe they've just recently been remodeled. Offices that at the time K-State volleyball moved into them, other Volleyball programs would have killed for . . . many of them occupying offices akin to broom closets. The volleyball dressing room and players lounge is multi-fold times nicer than the old K-State Mens basketball dressing room. (again, we're talking about Volleyball here, a sport that LOSES money). Offices, players lounges, dressing rooms, new courts, pay raises, increased budgets etc. etc. etc.
Drummed out of the NCAA tourney in the 1st round by Northern Iowa.
there is no excuse for getting run out of the gym by UNI. that's an embarassment.
there is no excuse for getting run out of the gym by UNI. that's an embarassment.
Anyone say otherwise? What did you guys think of UNI before the match started, just wondering?
I was being specific to KU
~You said for years KU has been competitive with weaker talent, because their coach knew our coaches system
never said that, they have been terrible forever
They have always played us tough relative to their inferior talent.
I was being specific to KU
~You said for years KU has been competitive with weaker talent, because their coach knew our coaches system
never said that, they have been terrible foreverQuote from: MiRThey have always played us tough relative to their inferior talent.
Maybe someone with free time can look up assistant coach salaries and see how they fall in line between K-State, top tier, and lesser schools.
Don't follow women's volleyball - like most olympic sports - but am happy when KSU is good.
That said, are we arguing that KSU doesn't have the talent to be relevant in the postseason? i.e. we need better facilities to recruit better talent?
I thought Fritz always had good talent, and was consistently taking teams to the NCAAs...
So, forgive me, but why the eff are facilities even relevant to this discussion?
so your direct quote with a direct parallel to what I said are world apart.....I was being specific to KU
~You said for years KU has been competitive with weaker talent, because their coach knew our coaches system
never said that, they have been terrible foreverQuote from: MiRThey have always played us tough relative to their inferior talent.
Maybe someone with free time can look up assistant coach salaries and see how they fall in line between K-State, top tier, and lesser schools.
My actual sentence and what you interpreted as are worlds apart.
so your direct quote with a direct parallel to what I said are world apart.....
wait what?
MIR, with the same old crap, I walked through Ahearn (for like the 1000th time) just this last summer right before school started at K-State. It was completely set up for Volleyball, I walked down through the underneath sections, and then back up through Ahearn Gym and the office areas.
K-State Volleyball moved into the former AD/Men's Basketball Suite, then it was remodeled . . . when they did that, the volleyball program at ku (for example) was stuck in some little broom closet office in the bowels of Allen Fieldhouse, until the last remodeling they did when it moved.
Oregon State Baseball (for example) won 2 National Titles before they even got the brand spanking new baseball stadium, before that, FHSU had a nicer stadium than Oregon State.
K-State is never going to have the nicest facilities across the board, but they're certainly nice enough.
Just once it would be nice for a K-State athletic team to step up and go the distance.
Other schools that have much smaller budgets than K-State have stepped up and gone the distance in NCAA athletics MIR . . . nice job in skipping over my point about that.
Hell Stony Brook (For Example) was in the CWS, and until recently their baseball field consisted of a fence, field, scoreboard, and a couple of dugouts. In FY 2012 K-State had $41 million dollars more athletic revenue then they did, in fact, K-State's private giving alone could have financed their entire athletic department, with $7 million left over.
K-State Volleyball to Make Special Announcement Tuesday
Suzie Fritz, John Currie to hold press conference at 3 p.m.
April 8, 2013
MANHATTAN, Kan. – Kansas State Head Volleyball Coach Suzie Fritz and Athletics Director John Currie will make a special announcement regarding K-State Volleyball during a press conference scheduled for Tuesday, April 9. The press conference will be held in the Legends Room at Bramalge Coliseum at 3 p.m.
QuoteK-State Volleyball to Make Special Announcement Tuesday
Suzie Fritz, John Currie to hold press conference at 3 p.m.
April 8, 2013
MANHATTAN, Kan. – Kansas State Head Volleyball Coach Suzie Fritz and Athletics Director John Currie will make a special announcement regarding K-State Volleyball during a press conference scheduled for Tuesday, April 9. The press conference will be held in the Legends Room at Bramalge Coliseum at 3 p.m.
Anyone else dying to see what this is about?
QuoteK-State Volleyball to Make Special Announcement Tuesday
Suzie Fritz, John Currie to hold press conference at 3 p.m.
April 8, 2013
MANHATTAN, Kan. – Kansas State Head Volleyball Coach Suzie Fritz and Athletics Director John Currie will make a special announcement regarding K-State Volleyball during a press conference scheduled for Tuesday, April 9. The press conference will be held in the Legends Room at Bramalge Coliseum at 3 p.m.
Anyone else dying to see what this is about?
My initial guess is either a facilities upgrade or she's been named as an assistant to the national team.
I know it isn't going to happen but I want them out of Ahearn.
I know it isn't going to happen but I want them out of Ahearn.
I like the idea of Ahearn still being used, but there could be a baller as crap volleyball arena to be built for relatively cheap.
I know it isn't going to happen but I want them out of Ahearn.
I like the idea of Ahearn still being used, but there could be a baller as crap volleyball arena to be built for relatively cheap.
I like the Horsej Pavilion or whatever its called at KU.
Is Brandenberry used exclusively for baseball?
Is Brandenberry used exclusively for baseball?
Is Brandenberry used exclusively for baseball?
Brandenberry is a warehouse, it wouldn't be a good volleyball arena.
Maybe the presser will announce they're putting a dome over Memorial Stadium for the v-ballers and others? (No sources on this, good or bad. Project renderings rumored to be under lock and key somewhere off campus).
Is Brandenberry used exclusively for baseball?
Brandenberry is a warehouse, it wouldn't be a good volleyball arena.
I'm aware of that and not at all why I asked.
are they going to get mushed by the competition they will face?
I haven't been in it, but it looked like a middle school multi use gym on TV. Is there a reason why you like it? I assume you've been in it.I know it isn't going to happen but I want them out of Ahearn.
I like the idea of Ahearn still being used, but there could be a baller as crap volleyball arena to be built for relatively cheap.
I like the Horsej Pavilion or whatever its called at KU.
Hungarian out for the season. Seems like this year she's playing girls who have been backups their whole career. The new setters pretty good though.
Hungarian out for the season. Seems like this year she's playing girls who have been backups their whole career. The new setters pretty good though.
Pelger is also playing hurt and got hurt again tonight. I'm unsure of what I think of the setter, she's aggressive at the net which I love but she is having some distribution issues. Tonight we hit about .070 and the setter has to wear that, we also had to tip a lot. I know passing can lead to these issues too so it all can't be laid at the feet of the setter. Brand is a freshman though so I'm happy we'll have her for 3 more years.
Losing Lilla hurts, she was playing very well before she got hurt. Where did you hear that she was out for the season? Kstatesports.com just ran a profile on her yesterday and that wasn't mentioned. Pretty odd to feature her if they think she's done. Sad for her that her college career is over if she in fact isn't returning.
Hungarian out for the season. Seems like this year she's playing girls who have been backups their whole career. The new setters pretty good though.
Pelger is also playing hurt and got hurt again tonight. I'm unsure of what I think of the setter, she's aggressive at the net which I love but she is having some distribution issues. Tonight we hit about .070 and the setter has to wear that, we also had to tip a lot. I know passing can lead to these issues too so it all can't be laid at the feet of the setter. Brand is a freshman though so I'm happy we'll have her for 3 more years.
Losing Lilla hurts, she was playing very well before she got hurt. Where did you hear that she was out for the season? Kstatesports.com just ran a profile on her yesterday and that wasn't mentioned. Pretty odd to feature her if they think she's done. Sad for her that her college career is over if she in fact isn't returning.
Hungarian out for the season. Seems like this year she's playing girls who have been backups their whole career. The new setters pretty good though.
Pelger is also playing hurt and got hurt again tonight. I'm unsure of what I think of the setter, she's aggressive at the net which I love but she is having some distribution issues. Tonight we hit about .070 and the setter has to wear that, we also had to tip a lot. I know passing can lead to these issues too so it all can't be laid at the feet of the setter. Brand is a freshman though so I'm happy we'll have her for 3 more years.
Losing Lilla hurts, she was playing very well before she got hurt. Where did you hear that she was out for the season? Kstatesports.com just ran a profile on her yesterday and that wasn't mentioned. Pretty odd to feature her if they think she's done. Sad for her that her college career is over if she in fact isn't returning.
By "not returning" do you mean her eligibility is exhausted? If so, is a medical a possibility?
what would be a good match to go to this year(preferable one we don't get killed in)
Thanks townie :Pirate Bones:what would be a good match to go to this year(preferable one we don't get killed in)
I'd suggest either the Tech or Baylor matches. Both are typically very bad, especially Tech.
sad to confirm that she's done for the year. talked about it with a stud volleycat last week.Hungarian out for the season. Seems like this year she's playing girls who have been backups their whole career. The new setters pretty good though.
Pelger is also playing hurt and got hurt again tonight. I'm unsure of what I think of the setter, she's aggressive at the net which I love but she is having some distribution issues. Tonight we hit about .070 and the setter has to wear that, we also had to tip a lot. I know passing can lead to these issues too so it all can't be laid at the feet of the setter. Brand is a freshman though so I'm happy we'll have her for 3 more years.
Losing Lilla hurts, she was playing very well before she got hurt. Where did you hear that she was out for the season? Kstatesports.com just ran a profile on her yesterday and that wasn't mentioned. Pretty odd to feature her if they think she's done. Sad for her that her college career is over if she in fact isn't returning.
By "not returning" do you mean her eligibility is exhausted? If so, is a medical a possibility?
Yes she's a senior, no she won't get a medical redshirt if she's out for the year, she's played 13 matches this season.
Also yes kstatesports reran a big12sports article from a few weeks ago, they put a disclaimer saying so at the beginning of the article. Seems weird that they wouldn't add that she's out for the year with an injury to that addendum.
Is it typical of V-ball teams to have their entire season determined by the availability of one player? Is it like losing a stud starting QB, or a stud 7-0 Center?
Went to the game. It was fun, #6 is good. seems like she's prob the best player.
Season tickets, here we come. Good thing they're still available. :)
#16 was runner up.Went to the game. It was fun, #6 is good. seems like she's prob the best player.
She isn't. Glad you went to the match and had fun. Go lots, they're all fun.
#17 is supposed to be the best player.apparently, stats lie.. but the ball don't
looks like I was right, like usualWent to the game. It was fun, #6 is good. seems like she's prob the best player.
She isn't. Glad you went to the match and had fun. Go lots, they're all fun.
looks like I was right, like usualWent to the game. It was fun, #6 is good. seems like she's prob the best player.
She isn't. Glad you went to the match and had fun. Go lots, they're all fun.
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A Volleyball Training Facility is going in south of Bram. Two courts with locker rooms, offices, etc. :kstategrad:
A Volleyball Training Facility is going in south of Bram. Two courts with locker rooms, offices, etc. :kstategrad:
How did I miss this, where South of the Bram exactly?
Rendos?
A Volleyball Training Facility is going in south of Bram. Two courts with locker rooms, offices, etc. :kstategrad:
How did I miss this, where South of the Bram exactly?
Rendos?
i dont really understand this.
It's not like they have to share their space in ahearn with anyone. money should be spent on a locker room/office upgrade in ahearn.
is the the groundwork for currie debbing suzie?
A Volleyball Training Facility is going in south of Bram. Two courts with locker rooms, offices, etc. :kstategrad:
How did I miss this, where South of the Bram exactly?
Rendos?
And yes if this is happening it puts Suzie on notice. If she does get moved we have a no doubt, slam dunk replacement in Dawn Cady Sullivan. I've talked to people very close to the Iowa State volleyball program who are nervous about losing her to us because they want her as a successor to their current coach.
And yes if this is happening it puts Suzie on notice. If she does get moved we have a no doubt, slam dunk replacement in Dawn Cady Sullivan. I've talked to people very close to the Iowa State volleyball program who are nervous about losing her to us because they want her as a successor to their current coach.
the only thing i know for sure is that currie will not hire a replacement coach that anyone wants or expects.
And yes if this is happening it puts Suzie on notice. If she does get moved we have a no doubt, slam dunk replacement in Dawn Cady Sullivan. I've talked to people very close to the Iowa State volleyball program who are nervous about losing her to us because they want her as a successor to their current coach.
the only thing i know for sure is that currie will not hire a replacement coach that anyone wants or expects.
And yes if this is happening it puts Suzie on notice. If she does get moved we have a no doubt, slam dunk replacement in Dawn Cady Sullivan. I've talked to people very close to the Iowa State volleyball program who are nervous about losing her to us because they want her as a successor to their current coach.
the only thing i know for sure is that currie will not hire a replacement coach that anyone wants or expects.
Rarely does a school actually hire the message board fapfest "want or expect" coach.
Moving Volleyball to Bramlage is now much more feasible with the BTF.
They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
And yes if this is happening it puts Suzie on notice. If she does get moved we have a no doubt, slam dunk replacement in Dawn Cady Sullivan. I've talked to people very close to the Iowa State volleyball program who are nervous about losing her to us because they want her as a successor to their current coach.
the only thing i know for sure is that currie will not hire a replacement coach that anyone wants or expects.
Rarely does a school actually hire the message board fapfest "want or expect" coach.
Moving Volleyball to Bramlage is now much more feasible with the BTF.
Volleyball games in Bramlage would be an absolutely terrible atmosphere. Ahearn is a pit, but it's also a huge home court advantage.
They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Ahearn does blow, your capacities are way too small.
They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Ahearn does blow, your capacities are way too small.
Get any bigger and you're looking at a half-full arena a lot of the time. You're probably right though, when taking NCAA hosting into effect.
Ahearn could be a very good V-Ball Venue, but that would require substantial renovation.
Move the v-ball court to where the b-ball court used to be and tighten and create a seating bowl around it. I'm thinking about 5-6,000 seats, and renovated entry lobbies etc. etc.
But we're talking $15 million easy.
They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Ahearn does blow, your capacities are way too small.
Get any bigger and you're looking at a half-full arena a lot of the time. You're probably right though, when taking NCAA hosting into effect.
then just pick up the court and move it to da bram when you need to host ncaa's
They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Ahearn does blow, your capacities are way too small.
Get any bigger and you're looking at a half-full arena a lot of the time. You're probably right though, when taking NCAA hosting into effect.
then just pick up the court and move it to da bram when you need to host ncaa's
NCAA brings in their own courts now.
Ahearn could be a very good V-Ball Venue, but that would require substantial renovation.
Move the v-ball court to where the b-ball court used to be and tighten and create a seating bowl around it. I'm thinking about 5-6,000 seats, and renovated entry lobbies etc. etc.
But we're talking $15 million easy.
A Volleyball Training Facility is going in south of Bram. Two courts with locker rooms, offices, etc. :kstategrad:
How did I miss this, where South of the Bram exactly?
Rendos?
They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Ahearn does blow, your capacities are way too small.
Get any bigger and you're looking at a half-full arena a lot of the time. You're probably right though, when taking NCAA hosting into effect.
then just pick up the court and move it to da bram when you need to host ncaa's
rumblings of an smaller octogon on top of the octogon, similar to a wedding cake
They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Ahearn does blow, your capacities are way too small.
Get any bigger and you're looking at a half-full arena a lot of the time. You're probably right though, when taking NCAA hosting into effect.
then just pick up the court and move it to da bram when you need to host ncaa's
NCAA brings in their own courts now.
No rendos yet to donate to ComboFan season. JFC told an architecture firm several weeks ago to come up with a design/rendos for a two-court volleyball training facility with locker rooms, offices, etc. located adjacent south of the fOoD (similar to the BTF). The VTF will go in, but a set timeline hasn't been established yet. I bet the project will be in the $8-13 million range probs.
No rendos yet to donate to ComboFan season. JFC told an architecture firm several weeks ago to come up with a design/rendos for a two-court volleyball training facility with locker rooms, offices, etc. located adjacent south of the fOoD (similar to the BTF). The VTF will go in, but a set timeline hasn't been established yet. I bet the project will be in the $8-13 million range probs.
If they're going to spend that much, might as well add another $7 million or so and just build a 4 or 5K seat game venue.
No rendos yet to donate to ComboFan season. JFC told an architecture firm several weeks ago to come up with a design/rendos for a two-court volleyball training facility with locker rooms, offices, etc. located adjacent south of the fOoD (similar to the BTF). The VTF will go in, but a set timeline hasn't been established yet. I bet the project will be in the $8-13 million range probs.
TFS and Baseball should see that money before volleyball if its either/or scenario.
Because. We need to improve our baseball facilities. We've been a play or two away from the CWS.
This particularly needs to happen if they push the season back. Everybody will be balls out in baseball if that happens.
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Funnel resources into sports that will make money (i.e football, MENs bball, and baseball). I believe everyone deserves opportunities, but if there is no money to be made, there is no reason to invest. The Toint needs a huge overhaul for various reasons, and V-Ball can wait. ADJC is probably not focused on the well-being and success of volleyball. Dude is King Midas, and all he wants is to make crap look good and make money, but he wont funnel it into some avenue that will suck the fun (money) out of the budget. (BTW, rowing doesn't deserve a facility, its a non-revenue sport that sucks on the teet of football that is federally required by T-XIV)
Funnel resources into sports that will make money (i.e football, MENs bball, and baseball). I believe everyone deserves opportunities, but if there is no money to be made, there is no reason to invest. The Toint needs a huge overhaul for various reasons, and V-Ball can wait. ADJC is probably not focused on the well-being and success of volleyball. Dude is King Midas, and all he wants is to make crap look good and make money, but he wont funnel it into some avenue that will suck the fun (money) out of the budget. (BTW, rowing doesn't deserve a facility, its a non-revenue sport that sucks on the teet of football that is federally required by T-XIV)
Funnel resources into sports that will make money (i.e football, MENs bball, and baseball). I believe everyone deserves opportunities, but if there is no money to be made, there is no reason to invest. The Toint needs a huge overhaul for various reasons, and V-Ball can wait. ADJC is probably not focused on the well-being and success of volleyball. Dude is King Midas, and all he wants is to make crap look good and make money, but he wont funnel it into some avenue that will suck the fun (money) out of the budget. (BTW, rowing doesn't deserve a facility, its a non-revenue sport that sucks on the teet of football that is federally required by T-XIV)
Can you read? I addressed this, volleyball has historically made a lot more money than baseball at Kansas State. Also what the hell is title 14? Certainly you know that all sports other than men's basketball "sucks on the teet of football" right?
I kinda wonder if they are looking to move VB out of Ahearn and into the OOD. Why else would you build a training facility so far away from the home court? Seems like we're seeing a general push to move everything to an athletics campus.
I kinda wonder if they are looking to move VB out of Ahearn and into the OOD. Why else would you build a training facility so far away from the home court? Seems like we're seeing a general push to move everything to an athletics campus.
This is probably the long term goal. They'll probably convert Ahearn into some museum or some stuff for the Kinesiology Dept. Indoor track will have to bounce over to the Athletic Complex of Doom as well.
Personally I don't think they should move. The only way to get students to go to this stuff is to make it convenient (i.e. keeping it right on campus)
Funnel resources into sports that will make money (i.e football, MENs bball, and baseball). I believe everyone deserves opportunities, but if there is no money to be made, there is no reason to invest. The Toint needs a huge overhaul for various reasons, and V-Ball can wait. ADJC is probably not focused on the well-being and success of volleyball. Dude is King Midas, and all he wants is to make crap look good and make money, but he wont funnel it into some avenue that will suck the fun (money) out of the budget. (BTW, rowing doesn't deserve a facility, its a non-revenue sport that sucks on the teet of football that is federally required by T-XIV)
Can you read? I addressed this, volleyball has historically made a lot more money than baseball at Kansas State. Also what the hell is title 14? Certainly you know that all sports other than men's basketball "sucks on the teet of football" right?
Title IX, whatever, shut up im tired.
And historically doesnt mean crap. Maybe back in the day, but this is now, Batcats are drawing a larger fanbase, which equals :kstategrad:
I kinda wonder if they are looking to move VB out of Ahearn and into the OOD. Why else would you build a training facility so far away from the home court? Seems like we're seeing a general push to move everything to an athletics campus.
Baseball needs the improvements first. VB is perfectly fine in Ahearn. Get indoor track out of there, and reconfigure the arena area to put the court where the basketball court used to be and make some improvements. They'll have tons of space to set up about as many practice V-Ball courts as they could possibly want. In fact, they'll have so much room they could put in at least one all sand court for training.
The only drawback might be having to work with the academic side like the Department of Kinesiology which occupies Ahearn.
Baseball can evolve with more suites, more seats etc. etc.
It will be absurd to spend $8 to $12 million on volleyball unless substantial improvements are made to TFS and the baseball facilities at the same time if not before. Particularly if baseball is pushed back a month, improving the competitive stature of nearly every D1 school substantially.
Baseball needs the improvements first. VB is perfectly fine in Ahearn. Get indoor track out of there, and reconfigure the arena area to put the court where the basketball court used to be and make some improvements. They'll have tons of space to set up about as many practice V-Ball courts as they could possibly want. In fact, they'll have so much room they could put in at least one all sand court for training.
The only drawback might be having to work with the academic side like the Department of Kinesiology which occupies Ahearn.
Baseball can evolve with more suites, more seats etc. etc.
It will be absurd to spend $8 to $12 million on volleyball unless substantial improvements are made to TFS and the baseball facilities at the same time if not before. Particularly if baseball is pushed back a month, improving the competitive stature of nearly every D1 school substantially.
So Nebraska has it wrong then?
(http://thisisnebraska.com/images/vb_teamfacilities_tn1.jpg)
So Nebraska has it wrong then?
(http://thisisnebraska.com/images/vb_teamfacilities_tn1.jpg)
Dax, you really think I wasn't aware of that? Yes I think that they have it wrong. I would be surprised if they actually used that for training instead of just something that looks cool.
So Nebraska has it wrong then?
(http://thisisnebraska.com/images/vb_teamfacilities_tn1.jpg)
Dax, you really think I wasn't aware of that? Yes I think that they have it wrong. I would be surprised if they actually used that for training instead of just something that looks cool.
So Nebraska has it wrong then?
(http://thisisnebraska.com/images/vb_teamfacilities_tn1.jpg)
Dax, you really think I wasn't aware of that? Yes I think that they have it wrong. I would be surprised if they actually used that for training instead of just something that looks cool.
Nebraska started a NCAA Sand volleyball team last year.
So Nebraska has it wrong then?
(http://thisisnebraska.com/images/vb_teamfacilities_tn1.jpg)
Dax, you really think I wasn't aware of that? Yes I think that they have it wrong. I would be surprised if they actually used that for training instead of just something that looks cool.
Nebraska started a NCAA Sand volleyball team last year.
interesting first post
Trivia question from the future: How many Championships did you celebrate from October 2014 through April 2015 if you were a Kansas City and Kansas State Sports fan?(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/20/df91ac4e1e92d99ed88e691684ddc1d4.jpg)
Answer: elventybillion
For those haven't been following; we are the second best team the conference, not sure we'll finish there or not, we'll see. We will make the tournament, but even though we're the second best team in the conference our chance of hosting is borderline. The Big 12 rpi is just okay, we will need to finish 14-4 or better in conference to host in the NCAA imo. If we really make a run there is a potential of playing the entire tournament in the Big 12 footprint as there is a regional here in Ames and the final four is in OKC.
great 3-0 win tonight against OU
mike stoops was heard outside of ahearn complaining about coach fritz's blockers
For those haven't been following; we are the second best team the conference, not sure we'll finish there or not, we'll see. We will make the tournament, but even though we're the second best team in the conference our chance of hosting is borderline. The Big 12 rpi is just okay, we will need to finish 14-4 or better in conference to host in the NCAA imo. If we really make a run there is a potential of playing the entire tournament in the Big 12 footprint as there is a regional here in Ames and the final four is in OKC.
17 rpi. I know rpi isn't a great measure of a team in bball, and I don't know if it is of similar or greater worth in vball, but apparently one of the coaches seems to think that finishing in the top 16 rpi gives a good chance of hosting.
KSU played sub-par vs Texas. Much of the credit due to the Longhorns, but even in the second set, which K-State had a good shot at, they really didn't play too terribly well. Bodes well for them, imo.
They are obviously good on the block, and they can play pretty decent transition if need be, but they have a tendency to let things snow-ball when the opposition is in serve. It's mostly a reception problem, but things have improved. They've come a long way since letting a pud Mo. State team and a shorthanded Baylor squad go on long runs at home. Texas got to them, but that's Texas.
Wednesday night will paint a pretty descriptive picture of the team imo. OU is good offensively, and will try to force long rallies defensively. If K-State can regain offensive efficiency and keep rallies short it would be a great sign for them.
grey areagreat 3-0 win tonight against OU
mike stoops was heard outside of ahearn complaining about coach fritz's blockers
Sure looked like their arms where too far over the net
grey areagreat 3-0 win tonight against OU
mike stoops was heard outside of ahearn complaining about coach fritz's blockers
Sure looked like their arms where too far over the net
Best I've seen from this team all season. Offense was great, but OU is a tremendous offensive team and K-State simply crap them down for much of the match.:sdeek:
Nice strategy of repeatedly making Madison Ward — whose 4.12 kills/ set rank second in the Big 12 during conference play — receive serve. She had eight kills on 34 attempts, with eight attack errors. .000 hitting. Held an OU offense that's hit a Big 12 best .274 in conference play to just .192 as a team.
Best I've seen from this team all season. Offense was great, but OU is a tremendous offensive team and K-State simply:sdeek:shit shut them down for much of the match.
Nice strategy of repeatedly making Madison Ward — whose 4.12 kills/ set rank second in the Big 12 during conference play — receive serve. She had eight kills on 34 attempts, with eight attack errors. .000 hitting. Held an OU offense that's hit a Big 12 best .274 in conference play to just .192 as a team.
Best I've seen from this team all season. Offense was great, but OU is a tremendous offensive team and K-State simply crap them down for much of the match.
Nice strategy of repeatedly making Madison Ward — whose 4.12 kills/ set rank second in the Big 12 during conference play — receive serve. She had eight kills on 34 attempts, with eight attack errors. .000 hitting. Held an OU offense that's hit a Big 12 best .274 in conference play to just .192 as a team.
Best I've seen from this team all season. Offense was great, but OU is a tremendous offensive team and K-State simply crap them down for much of the match.
Nice strategy of repeatedly making Madison Ward — whose 4.12 kills/ set rank second in the Big 12 during conference play — receive serve. She had eight kills on 34 attempts, with eight attack errors. .000 hitting. Held an OU offense that's hit a Big 12 best .274 in conference play to just .192 as a team.
nicname. i'm really kind of pissed off right now. ok, i'm not kind of pissed off, i'm furious. this post deserves validation from MiR but he's treating you like a little bitch, bro.
you guys have some sort of squabble that we don't know about, son?
Best I've seen from this team all season. Offense was great, but OU is a tremendous offensive team and K-State simply crap them down for much of the match.
Best I've seen from this team all season. Offense was great, but OU is a tremendous offensive team and K-State simply crap them down for much of the match.
OU swept UT tonight
hey nicname, odd question and prob should be in the MDT but like do you know any of the lady volleycats well enough to recommend a certain poster who is tall dark and handsome, asking for a friend
hey nicname, odd question and prob should be in the MDT but like do you know any of the lady volleycats well enough to recommend a certain poster who is tall dark and handsome, asking for a friend
I dunno, that'd be pretty creepy. But I'm sure they like tall dudes. I mean half of them are over 6 feet tall.
hey nicname, odd question and prob should be in the MDT but like do you know any of the lady volleycats well enough to recommend a certain poster who is tall dark and handsome, asking for a friend
I dunno, that'd be pretty creepy. But I'm sure they like tall dudes. I mean half of them are over 6 feet tall.
alright, will report this back to the friend that asked :thumbs:
hey nicname, odd question and prob should be in the MDT but like do you know any of the lady volleycats well enough to recommend a certain poster who is tall dark and handsome, asking for a friend
I dunno, that'd be pretty creepy. But I'm sure they like tall dudes. I mean half of them are over 6 feet tall.
alright, will report this back to the friend that asked :thumbs:
I would suggest to just start showing up at practices, and then going to games and always sitting directly opposite of the bench and gazing into their eyes. Also screaming really loudly for those little volleyballs that they toss out before the matches. You'll have to move every set though because they switch benches all the time. Gotta keep that eye contact.
If that doesn't work I'd suggest randomly sending flowers to the VB offices and showing up at their apartments with a radio and a well-tuned singing voice.
Hope this helps your friend.
Ho hum. Another road win. This one 3-2 at WVU. Fritz saving her job this season imo.
damn dude I don't know. Its one thing to stay under the radar and keep sawing wood with your program. But when common K-State0 fans start to get pissed with your performance (for a lot, I think you've noted, losing to KU), I think the leash can be pretty freaking short.Ho hum. Another road win. This one 3-2 at WVU. Fritz saving her job this season imo.
Her job was fine, Olympic sports coaches don't get evaluated like football and basketball coaches and she isn't the perceived pain in the ass Deb was.
They assistants haven't changed for quite a while, since Justin Ingram left to become a head coach at Arkansas State.
Currie is smart enough of an athletic director to evaluate coaches on their own merits. He isn't going to make personnel decisions based on people pissed on a message board because they can't make clever posts to other message board posters. Volleyball, baseball, and wbb coaches have three goals:
win
produce revenue
don't embarrass the school
The more of the second two you do the more latitude you get with the first. Suzy is the winningest coach in the history of the program, by far, and one of the best in the history of the conference. As far as the other stuff goes she has run a model program by any standard. Firing her and trying to find someone else to duplicate what she's done is a huge risk.
Couldn't put the ball down tonight, just like Saturday. As bad as ISU has been this year their only conference home loss is to UT. Thankfully OU lost to TCU tonight.
Seems like Suzie teams always sputter out midseason and nose dive. :flush:
Past few years have felt like this to me. :dunno:Seems like Suzie teams always sputter out midseason and nose dive. :flush:
Well that was totally crap :flush:
there's no evidence to back up this claim though
Past few years have felt like this to me. :dunno:Seems like Suzie teams always sputter out midseason and nose dive. :flush:
Well that was totally crap :flush:
there's no evidence to back up this claim though
I hope to get to a few matches this season.
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I hope to get to a few matches this season.I usually make at least one game a year
Maybe we will be at a game at the same time. Wouldn't know it, though.I hope to get to a few matches this season.I usually make at least one game a year
Ladies in a great match with Cal right now.
Wisconsin, Arkansas, Creighton, Kansas coming up . . .
We'll know a lot in a week or so.
I don't know, bones. I haven't bought because my evenings are sometimes taken with work events, and I travel with others on Saturdays for football games. I think they will be good this year and even better next year; no seniors.
Great. I still hope to get to some games.I don't know, bones. I haven't bought because my evenings are sometimes taken with work events, and I travel with others on Saturdays for football games. I think they will be good this year and even better next year; no seniors.
Thanks, Canary. I think we may go ahead and buy them.
Wisconsin, Arkansas, Creighton, Kansas coming up . . .
We'll know a lot in a week or so.
Sorta, kinda. She'll still play with the lineup quite a bit in the next few matches. She never settles the 8 player rotation until conference play starts.
4 straight losses. #moI didn't know ku was still undefeated and highly ranked. Still hate losing anything to them.
4 straight losses. #moI didn't know ku was still undefeated and highly ranked. Still hate losing anything to them.
Nobody probably knows who she is but is freshman middle blocker Macy Flowers going to play this year? She's been hurt.
4 straight losses. #moI didn't know ku was still undefeated and highly ranked. Still hate losing anything to them.
Hawk volleyball is definitely better than Hawk football and probably draws more actual attendees considering KU's football attendance figures (tix sold, not who shows up). #JayhawkProud
Fire Suziei know this is a prank post but i'll respond-
Currie wants to build them a practice facility near Bramlage, and they should just move to Bramlage for games. I know MIR gets all whack-a-doodle about that, but the only other choice is to build a new indoor track facility and turn Ahearn completely over to volleyball, or build volleyball their own arena. To do that right will take a lot of money and sorry, they just haven't been that good to justify that kind of expenditure. I watched some of LSU Arkansas last night from LSU and looked like LSU does some things to cozy up their basketball arena for volleyball matches. Florida State V-ball plays in some crackerbox gym. KU is good and Horejesi (sp?) is just some tin shed high school gym.
I'd love to see a total sports complex with a new indoor track venue and a new volleyball venue, but that's going to take up the beloved parking which some people have some sort of sick infatuation with. To do something like that is going to cost tens of millions of dollars.
Ahearn is louder than the shed.
On K-States instagram it said the next home match is October 10 in Bramlage. Why?
Ahearn is louder than the shed.
Nope
Well next two home matches are at Bramlage including Texas.
Well next two home matches are at Bramlage including Texas.
I will be there. Also have been at Ahearn for VB games. Will report on the comparo.
Well next two home matches are at Bramlage including Texas.
I will be there. Also have been at Ahearn for VB games. Will report on the comparo.
No need, I've already told you. I've seen every kstate volleyball match ever played in Bramlage and they've all sucked despite playing against good opponents more often than most and winning all of them.
Nobody probably knows who she is but is freshman middle blocker Macy Flowers going to play this year? She's been hurt.
Macy will redshirt this season.
Nobody probably knows who she is but is freshman middle blocker Macy Flowers going to play this year? She's been hurt.
Macy will redshirt this season.
She played Saturday at TCU.
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Nobody probably knows who she is but is freshman middle blocker Macy Flowers going to play this year? She's been hurt.
Macy will redshirt this season.
She played Saturday at TCU.
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Yeah saw that, really late in the season to see her first action, the season is half way over. Didn't see the match but her numbers looked good. I will see the ladies twice this week, looking forward to it. I'll give you a full report on Macy on Wednesday night.
This team seems to be underachieving. Hope they can turn it around.I think they are underachieving too. I thought they would be better than this.
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OU is better than their record..
Won their 6th straight tonight, 17-8 overall and 9-4 in the Big 12. Let's get Suzie a 10 year extension for turning this year around.It is pretty impressive. I thought they were going to be great, then terrible, and now pretty good. Third place in conference with three matches left. If they win two more I think they get into the tourney.
Won their 6th straight tonight, 17-8 overall and 9-4 in the Big 12. Let's get Suzie a 10 year extension for turning this year around.It is pretty impressive. I thought they were going to be great, then terrible, and now pretty good. Third place in conference with three matches left. If they win two more I think they get into the tourney.
Won their 6th straight tonight, 17-8 overall and 9-4 in the Big 12. Let's get Suzie a 10 year extension for turning this year around.It is pretty impressive. I thought they were going to be great, then terrible, and now pretty good. Third place in conference with three matches left. If they win two more I think they get into the tourney.
The KU match next Wednesday is huge.
We should be able to handle Wichita State. I've bitched about this a million times but the NCAA's insistence on putting these teams in the same pod over and over is complete bullshit.
I was hoping to watch. Will just have to listen
What does she have to do to get fired?
What does she have to do to get fired?
Kansas State athletic director John Currie says the school is working on a contract extension for volleyball coach Suzie Fritz.
Fritz has led the Wildcats’ volleyball team since 2001, winning 295 games and making 11 NCAA Tournaments. K-State is coming off a 17-win campaign in which it posted a winning conference record without a single senior on the roster.
The season ended with a loss to Wichita State in the NCAA Tournament.
Currie said he is proud of the work Fritz has put in and is eager to see what she can do next season, and beyond, with a young team returning.
“She has done a tremendous job,” Currie said. “We look forward to her continued success with the K-State volleyball team.”
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article48840450.html (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article48840450.html)QuoteKansas State athletic director John Currie says the school is working on a contract extension for volleyball coach Suzie Fritz.
Fritz has led the Wildcats’ volleyball team since 2001, winning 295 games and making 11 NCAA Tournaments. K-State is coming off a 17-win campaign in which it posted a winning conference record without a single senior on the roster.
The season ended with a loss to Wichita State in the NCAA Tournament.
Currie said he is proud of the work Fritz has put in and is eager to see what she can do next season, and beyond, with a young team returning.
“She has done a tremendous job,” Currie said. “We look forward to her continued success with the K-State volleyball team.”
What does she have to do to get fired?
Same as any other Olympics sports coach; embarrass the school or be a habitual loser. She hasn't done either and she won't do either.
What does she have to do to get fired?
Same as any other Olympics sports coach; embarrass the school or be a habitual loser. She hasn't done either and she won't do either.
Can't we get same mediocre results for much less $?
I've always been under the impression Volleyball is one of our more successful non revenue sports :dunno:
MIR should I have any reason to think K-State vball will go to the E8 or F4 next year? If no then I don't think Suzy > Ray. It's a what have you done for me lately business.
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I love it when Dax puts non revenue sports on trial. No one is safe from scrutiny.
I appreciate a level headed check on what we *are* doing, but we are limiting what we *can* do, especially with a coach that has proven she is a middle of the pack, 1st or 2nd round NCAA coach. Yeah we aren't going to go back to the path McLaughlin had us on, but we know that Suzi isn't going to get us much success. Grats on the regular season record moral victory, but at some point it's K-state0 to harp on that crap instead of looking at tournament results.
But besides that point, go horns, great to see Nub fans rooting so hard against them in ses 1 last night.
It seems like we (k-state) canot get out of our own way.
I appreciate a level headed check on what we *are* doing, but we are limiting what we *can* do, especially with a coach that has proven she is a middle of the pack, 1st or 2nd round NCAA coach. Yeah we aren't going to go back to the path McLaughlin had us on, but we know that Suzi isn't going to get us much success. Grats on the regular season record moral victory, but at some point it's K-state0 to harp on that crap instead of looking at tournament results.
But besides that point, go horns, great to see Nub fans rooting so hard against them in ses 1 last night.
What the eff are you talking about man, this is exactly the path that McLaughlin had us on, Jim Moore too. This program, for better or worse, has been amazingly steady for three coaches over the last 20 seasons. It's ironic that you brought up Jim McLaughlin, do you know why he left? I do and I heard it right out of his mouth. He left a school with 5 straight NCAA appearances and at the time was undoubtedly the second best volleyball school in the Big 12 conference, to what was undoubtedly the worst in the Pac 10.
Why did he leave?Brent Venables unspeakable sin.
I appreciate a level headed check on what we *are* doing, but we are limiting what we *can* do, especially with a coach that has proven she is a middle of the pack, 1st or 2nd round NCAA coach. Yeah we aren't going to go back to the path McLaughlin had us on, but we know that Suzi isn't going to get us much success. Grats on the regular season record moral victory, but at some point it's K-state0 to harp on that crap instead of looking at tournament results.
But besides that point, go horns, great to see Nub fans rooting so hard against them in ses 1 last night.
What the eff are you talking about man, this is exactly the path that McLaughlin had us on, Jim Moore too. This program, for better or worse, has been amazingly steady for three coaches over the last 20 seasons. It's ironic that you brought up Jim McLaughlin, do you know why he left? I do and I heard it right out of his mouth. He left a school with 5 straight NCAA appearances and at the time was undoubtedly the second best volleyball school in the Big 12 conference, to what was undoubtedly the worst in the Pac 10.
Yeah anyone who has followed VB knows why he left, this isn't insidery info. But you are 100% totally wrong about trajectory. His trajectory was not a mid level conference contender with a once in a decade conf title run. It's great that you bring up UW because it totally undercuts your point that K-State is on the same path now as what UW went on under McLauglin or even what McLaughlin was doing at K-State. His success was trending up, the team was looking up, and Fritz benefited from his players. If we take your position that UW was the worst, consider this, as you know, he has taken them to 3 PACs, 4 Final Fours, and a title (added bonus of 15 AAs and a NPOY in 2013). Instead we've got....1 conference title and a crap load of, to barrow Dax's phrase, cups of coffee at the dance with little else. So "steady" is one thing to call the program. Mired in average to slightly above average play is more accurate. Mclaughlin was building this program into something better and Fritz has taken it to a leveled-off trajectory that is nice for many, but disappointing for some. But this is the problem with K-State in many respects. We've been on the right path and had some unfortunate circumstances take us off course from really competing for titles (thinking WVB and MBB, hell 90s to 00s FB). But just because we have a "nice" program doesn't mean we should re-evaluate what the coach is actually doing to break through to that next level. We've been on the cusp of that in many sports, many times, and never put all the pieces together. At some point you have to break off a coach who is nice, and comforting to tucks, and push in a new direction, or you will always be the nice team, with nice facilities, and a nice record with little else.
I appreciate a level headed check on what we *are* doing, but we are limiting what we *can* do, especially with a coach that has proven she is a middle of the pack, 1st or 2nd round NCAA coach. Yeah we aren't going to go back to the path McLaughlin had us on, but we know that Suzi isn't going to get us much success. Grats on the regular season record moral victory, but at some point it's K-state0 to harp on that crap instead of looking at tournament results.
But besides that point, go horns, great to see Nub fans rooting so hard against them in ses 1 last night.
What the eff are you talking about man, this is exactly the path that McLaughlin had us on, Jim Moore too. This program, for better or worse, has been amazingly steady for three coaches over the last 20 seasons. It's ironic that you brought up Jim McLaughlin, do you know why he left? I do and I heard it right out of his mouth. He left a school with 5 straight NCAA appearances and at the time was undoubtedly the second best volleyball school in the Big 12 conference, to what was undoubtedly the worst in the Pac 10.
Yeah anyone who has followed VB knows why he left, this isn't insidery info. But you are 100% totally wrong about trajectory. His trajectory was not a mid level conference contender with a once in a decade conf title run. It's great that you bring up UW because it totally undercuts your point that K-State is on the same path now as what UW went on under McLauglin or even what McLaughlin was doing at K-State. His success was trending up, the team was looking up, and Fritz benefited from his players. If we take your position that UW was the worst, consider this, as you know, he has taken them to 3 PACs, 4 Final Fours, and a title (added bonus of 15 AAs and a NPOY in 2013). Instead we've got....1 conference title and a crap load of, to barrow Dax's phrase, cups of coffee at the dance with little else. So "steady" is one thing to call the program. Mired in average to slightly above average play is more accurate. Mclaughlin was building this program into something better and Fritz has taken it to a leveled-off trajectory that is nice for many, but disappointing for some. But this is the problem with K-State in many respects. We've been on the right path and had some unfortunate circumstances take us off course from really competing for titles (thinking WVB and MBB, hell 90s to 00s FB). But just because we have a "nice" program doesn't mean we should re-evaluate what the coach is actually doing to break through to that next level. We've been on the cusp of that in many sports, many times, and never put all the pieces together. At some point you have to break off a coach who is nice, and comforting to tucks, and push in a new direction, or you will always be the nice team, with nice facilities, and a nice record with little else.
Okay so you used all of those words to say that you don't know why he left. He left because even though Washington was a dead ass program at the time he felt like that program had a better chance of success. They had a bigger budget, better geography, and did not have Nebraska and Texas to butt heads with. In simpler language he felt he had plateaued and Washington offered a better chance for loftier successes.
I never said or hinted that K-State was on the same path as Washington, I'm not sure what you read that lead you to think that. And no Suzie's greatest successes did not come with McLaughlin's players. She was the lead assistant on his teams and of the five best players on that team I can say for a fact that three of them; Lauren Goering, Vali Hejjas, and Gabby Guerre were recruited by Suzie when she was the assistant recruiting them or the head coach. I'm fairly sure that Jeff Grove recruited Laura Downey as well. I have no idea about Lisa Martin although I'd bet she was also recruited by Suzie given that her and Lauren was from the same area.
I don't give a crap about how nice Suzie is or isn't, I don't owe her a damn thing. What I do care about is that she has a direct tie to all but one of our tournament appearances in the history of the school and the only conference championship. When you're running an olympic sport you don't fire one of the winningest coaches in the history of the sport in hopes that you may find someone that can possibly win a few more matches in December, that's patently dumb, so dumb in fact that I am not going to talk about this anymore. Suzie has as much of a chance of getting fired as I do in being her replacement. I've wasted too much time on this stupid crap.
I actually posted that thinking MIR would respond. He did not. Le sad.
Pretty annoyed that the soccer and volleyball matches are at the same time on Sunday. I'm going to guess K-State asked that the volleyball match be moved to Saturday bit either UT or the Big 12 said no. That being said It's also unfortunate the soccer match couldn't start at noon or the volleyball match start at 3.
why are none of our games on television anymore?Lame stream media
Fritz, in her 16th year as K-State’s head coach, likens Reininger to Tigger off of “Winnie the Pooh.” Not only is she cheerful and outgoing, she’s also 100 percent comfortable in her skin.
“Her optimism, her positivity, she just exudes those qualities. She’s our Tigger,” Fritz said. “At first you wonder if that’s real, and then she does it every day for four years. Her ability to make people feel good about being alive and her ability to bring joy to all phases of our lives is pretty unique and pretty special.”
oscar is infecting our other non-revenue coaches now.
FUUUUUCCCCKKKKK :flush:Indeed! What a wreck that was.
Not being cute but how do you get seriously hurt in volleyball?
Thanks for actually answering the question.Not being cute but how do you get seriously hurt in volleyball?
Been a few years since I played a lot indoor/court volleyball (I prefer sand/beach) I can tell you this: # Times I've been hurt playing sand volleyball: 2 and they both involved jamming the crap out of my hand so bad I couldn't write for like a week on a spike. # Times I've been hurt playing court? Like every rough ridin' time, I can't tell you how many sprains, ankle twists, knee bruises/elbow bruises I've had from diving or landing from a spike. If you actually play aggressive defense, you will absolutely hurt yourself. Hate giving up points to the other team just becuase you dont want to layout.
Thanks for actually answering the question.Not being cute but how do you get seriously hurt in volleyball?
Been a few years since I played a lot indoor/court volleyball (I prefer sand/beach) I can tell you this: # Times I've been hurt playing sand volleyball: 2 and they both involved jamming the crap out of my hand so bad I couldn't write for like a week on a spike. # Times I've been hurt playing court? Like every rough ridin' time, I can't tell you how many sprains, ankle twists, knee bruises/elbow bruises I've had from diving or landing from a spike. If you actually play aggressive defense, you will absolutely hurt yourself. Hate giving up points to the other team just becuase you dont want to layout.
Anyway..hope Reininger is back tomorrow vs Baylor. Sandbothe is an intriguing prospect though. Her sister is an All American at Ohio State.
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That middle hitter was on. We never made an adjustment to that. Our block was slow to get there. I thought we seemed sluggish throughout the match, but with her it might just have been she was just too quick.Anyway..hope Reininger is back tomorrow vs Baylor. Sandbothe is an intriguing prospect though. Her sister is an All American at Ohio State.
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I thought she hit well but she was getting abused, badly by that ISU middle on those quicks. It seemed like they went to it every time they were in system.
saw that ku beat UT...now #1 in the conference :flush:
I'm hoping for a five- set match with the Cats winning it.
very, those service errors were brutalSorry, we posted about the same time about the service errors. I hate that. Just gifted a great KU team points instead of making them earn them.
They are going to make the tournament but I hope they aren't sent up to Nebraska again.I hope we are and I hope we kick their ass
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They are going to make the tournament but I hope they aren't sent up to Nebraska again.
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3-1 win over ou on Wednesday
2 matches left, @ ut and home vs tech
currently 5th in conference behind flood aggie but they still have baylor, ku, and ou. baylor @ 4th still has ku, isu, and ou
Saturday's ut game is on the longhorn network fwiw
we lost to tcu but other than that, the ku and isu losses are understandable
i kind of feel like we're playing above where we should be this season, i don't know if that's correct or not. it'd be nice to close out w/ 2 wins and hope to bump up a spot in the b12 standings + hit the ncaa's with some momentum
but ya, would love to go to Columbia rather than Lincoln or Seattle, though this team has a lot of potential
I agree. We collapsed in at least two matches this year, and maybe a third. I didn't expect that with the starting lineup returning, so it makes it disappointing. I thought the would challenge for the conference title.we lost to tcu but other than that, the ku and isu losses are understandable
i kind of feel like we're playing above where we should be this season, i don't know if that's correct or not. it'd be nice to close out w/ 2 wins and hope to bump up a spot in the b12 standings + hit the ncaa's with some momentum
but ya, would love to go to Columbia rather than Lincoln or Seattle, though this team has a lot of potential
I think the ISU and KU matches are bad losses. We are absolutely better than ISU and the KU match is one you have to finish if you are a good team, we gave it away. They are mired in the same issue the football team is, we can't seem to beat anyone better than us. As far as expectations, we were picked to finish sixth in the preseason but that frankly was ridiculously low. We returned all seven starters from last season's team, that team should have finished third but they had one of the worst collapses ever. Like I said we haven't beaten anyone, in conference anyway, better than us but we've punted a couple so to me we haven't met a reasonable expectation. We have had some injuries but :dunno:
MiR, no trolling, you still feel like Suzie is the woman for the job? Has the state of the program done what you thought it needed to do over the last handful of years?
MiR, no trolling, you still feel like Suzie is the woman for the job? Has the state of the program done what you thought it needed to do over the last handful of years?
I appreciate a level headed check on what we *are* doing, but we are limiting what we *can* do, especially with a coach that has proven she is a middle of the pack, 1st or 2nd round NCAA coach. Yeah we aren't going to go back to the path McLaughlin had us on, but we know that Suzi isn't going to get us much success. Grats on the regular season record moral victory, but at some point it's K-state0 to harp on that crap instead of looking at tournament results.
But besides that point, go horns, great to see Nub fans rooting so hard against them in ses 1 last night.
I don't give a crap about how nice Suzie is or isn't, I don't owe her a damn thing. What I do care about is that she has a direct tie to all but one of our tournament appearances in the history of the school and the only conference championship. When you're running an olympic sport you don't fire one of the winningest coaches in the history of the sport in hopes that you may find someone that can possibly win a few more matches in December, that's patently dumb, so dumb in fact that I am not going to talk about this anymore. Suzie has as much of a chance of getting fired as I do in being her replacement. I've wasted too much time on this stupid crap.
Clams really crystallized some things here with that comparison to Deb. It's been another year, maybe MiR changed his mind or he has really liked what she has done. I haven't watched enough v-ball this year to comment. I know he does take a great interest in the program.
Clams really crystallized some things here with that comparison to Deb. It's been another year, maybe MiR changed his mind or he has really liked what she has done. I haven't watched enough v-ball this year to comment. I know he does take a great interest in the program.
You can't be serious? Are you actually aware of the records of Suzie and Deb? There is no comparison, its actually laughable.
As far as what I think about Susie, there might be 5 Olympic sports team coaches in all of the NCAA that would feel any pressure at all with a record of 315-176 and 12 NCAA appearances in 16 years. Anyone who expects more than that from a non-revenue sport at a small budget school should be mercilessly mocked.
Clams really crystallized some things here with that comparison to Deb. It's been another year, maybe MiR changed his mind or he has really liked what she has done. I haven't watched enough v-ball this year to comment. I know he does take a great interest in the program.
You can't be serious? Are you actually aware of the records of Suzie and Deb? There is no comparison, its actually laughable.
As far as what I think about Susie, there might be 5 Olympic sports team coaches in all of the NCAA that would feel any pressure at all with a record of 315-176 and 12 NCAA appearances in 16 years. Anyone who expects more than that from a non-revenue sport at a small budget school should be mercilessly mocked.
i'm serious.
deb @ k-state 350-226 (.608)
suzie @ k-state 295-168 (.637)
that comparison is laughable to you? how weird.
one was fired for lack of performance, one was extended through 2020
i don't care about their comparative records though when, in totality, their results are the same.
like i said, slightly above average teams who have no real shot at any post-season success. a cup of coffee in the tournament and a sense of accomplishment for the plane ride home. seems to be the equal measure of both coaches.
i get the feeling that she's done everything that she's going to do at k-state, hope i'm wrong
Hey MiR I appreciate your ardent support of our coaches. You and I might disagree on some of the non revenue sports but I know you are looking at it with a level head. It sounds like you don't think much has changed over the last few years with volleyball. I've gone on record with you before that I thought Deb should have been fired immediately when those allegations, and later exposé, came out back with our big 3. But besides that point we haven't been seeing the same kind of success as KU over the last few years. It's an interesting perspective that you bring where you look at totality and I'm probably looking at it more 'what have you done lately.' I just worry the lately has changed the expectation of this program to just being happy to make the NCAAs, ecstatic to host, and being in the top half, maybe top third of the conference. I think there are a lot of circumstances that are radically different than Deb and Susie. But it seems like Mittie has brought a lot of new energy to the wbb program. I'm just curious to see at what point you think we need a change just for changes sake, or if that is even a thing in your mind.
The fightin' Marcus Fosters! Bye KU
Nice easy win for the Cats tonight. Worried about tomorrow, we haven't played the Big 10 worth a damn, like ever.I was sitting with a guy whose wife is a KU grad. When they won the fourth set he said it looked like KU would win since it went to a fifth set. The post game show is when I heard they lost.
As far as Creighton goes, they had to win twice tonight. In the fifth set KU appeared to hit a ball out that gave Creighton a 18-16 win. The up ref called the ball out and Creighton poured onto the court to celebrate. The ref did not scan his line judges before making his call and the line judge in front of KU's bench called a touch. Well the up ref calls both line judges over to him while Creighton is :party: their asses off and literally a minute after he called the ball out, the up ref called a touch, to make the score 17-17. Creighton finally won 20-18.
Hate to lose, but what a great match!
I was able to go Friday, but knew that yesterday's match had potential to be amazing. Glad you got to go.Hate to lose, but what a great match!
Absolutely. The match was exciting and everything tournament play should be. Wish the outcome had been different, but it was a superb match. Glad to be there to see it.
I was able to go Friday, but knew that yesterday's match had potential to be amazing. Glad you got to go.Hate to lose, but what a great match!
Absolutely. The match was exciting and everything tournament play should be. Wish the outcome had been different, but it was a superb match. Glad to be there to see it.
:excited:The hitter sounds like a great addition. Looking forward to hearing more and following them again this fall.
MANHATTAN, Kan. – Kansas State head volleyball coach Suzie Fritz announced the commitments of Brooke Heyne and Jacque Smith for the upcoming 2017 season.
Heyne, a 5-11 outside hitter, was named the 2016-17 Gatorade Nebraska Volleyball Player of the Year out of Skutt Catholic High School in Nebraska. Heyne led the SkyHawks to a perfect 44-0 record and second straight state title to go along with a No. 2 national ranking by PrepVolleyball.com.
In her senior season, Heyne tallied 474 kills, 362 digs and 40 service aces. A 2016-17 Under Armour Third Team All-American, she is also a MaxPreps First Team All-American and was named co-captain of the All-Nebraska Team.
“An incredibly talented and versatile player with a strong all-around skill set,” Fritz said of Heyne. “Brooke is a capable attacker, passer and defender that can impact our team in a number of ways. In addition, she has experienced great academic and competitive success. She excels in all areas of her life as an outstanding person committed to service and her academics.”
Smith was a four-year letterwinner out of St. Teresa’s Academy in Kansas City, Missouri. The 5-7 libero was selected to the Missouri-Kansas All-Star Team her senior season after setting the single-season digs record at STA with 545.
Smith received all-state, all-district and all-region honors in both her junior and senior seasons, as she led STA to the state tournament both years.
“Jacque is a high-energy and competitive libero candidate with good court presence and the capacity to manage first contact at a high level,” said Fritz. “Her primary responsibilities will be in the areas of pass and defend, but she will impact our team culture as a student and positive teammate.”
The Wildcats, coming off their 12th 20-win season under Fritz and fifth trip to the NCAA Tournament in the last six years, are currently in the midst of their spring schedule in preparation for the upcoming fall season.
Welp, 6 straight to KU, it used to be the opposite.
Canary can't stand this team.Dislikes the vball coaching more than the football coaching.
I agree, and I'm glad we ditched that God awful 6-2 offense.
I agree, and I'm glad we ditched that God awful 6-2 offense.
Are you going to attend a vb match this season? If so, lemme know when and I'll try to join. I haven't been to a match since I left MHK a few years ago.
They had a really good non con but the last two matches have been terrible.
They had a really good non con but the last two matches have been terrible.
gotta work hard to manage staying on the bubble, it's all about getting that (small) cup of coffee in the ncaa's
The only real question I have in my mind is does Susie see the inside of that new VB arena has a head coach of the KSU Lady Cats? I understand that's the next thing on the list after the soccer/baseball/track work is done.
The only real question I have in my mind is does Susie see the inside of that new VB arena has a head coach of the KSU Lady Cats? I understand that's the next thing on the list after the soccer/baseball/track work is done.
Considering her boss is on record discussing the trouble she has recruiting to a 68 year old building with a flooding problem, I'm guessing she's very safe.
The only real question I have in my mind is does Susie see the inside of that new VB arena has a head coach of the KSU Lady Cats? I understand that's the next thing on the list after the soccer/baseball/track work is done.
Considering her boss is on record discussing the trouble she has recruiting to a 68 year old building with a flooding problem, I'm guessing she's very safe.
I've heard that she does not want to play in the Octagon despite the urging of almost everyone so I find it hard to give her a pass on that.
Where do most D1 P5 volleyball teams play?
Where do most D1 P5 volleyball teams play?
Do I start mocking that absolutely awful baseball hire now to force him to win or wait until the spring?
I'm wondering what Susie supporters are going to come up with this time on why she should still have a job.
Not gonna lie, my GAF level about firing the lady vb coach is exactly zero GAF's.
Got a top 50 recruit from Louisurg. When will the facility be done? 2020?She's the real deal and also has deep family ties to KState. They are whiffing on far more than they are hitting.
Kansas City is by no means a volleyball hotbed, Jesus Christ. Kansas City has very good club and youth programs but they aren't producing any more division 1 talent than similar sized Midwestern cities.Wrong, the Heart of America only trails SoCal, Texas and Florida in strength. Might wanna check out the All American teams posted earlier for several prominent players that came from the KC area. The Final Four this weekend features 2 starters from Illinois, 2 starters from Nebraska & 2 starters from Stanford all from the Heart of America region. Minnesota who was a favorite for the Final Four also has 2 starters from the KC area. Jesus Christ, I think the area might be a little better than “good”.
Kansas City is by no means a volleyball hotbed, Jesus Christ. Kansas City has very good club and youth programs but they aren't producing any more division 1 talent than similar sized Midwestern cities.Wrong, the Heart of America only trails SoCal, Texas and Florida in strength. Might wanna check out the All American teams posted earlier for several prominent players that came from the KC area. The Final Four this weekend features 2 starters from Illinois, 2 starters from Nebraska & 2 starters from Stanford all from the Heart of America region. Minnesota who was a favorite for the Final Four also has 2 starters from the KC area. Jesus Christ, I think the area might be a little better than “good”.
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Geography? HOA has less than 1/3 of the membership as the other regions mentioned. If you are familiar with Open level club VB than you'll know HOA had the National Champions at 16 last year and 18 the year before. Power 5 coaches cram the courts of MAVS and KC POWER 15,17,17 year old teams at qualifiers. You're slipping with you're pointless have to argue shtick.Kansas City is by no means a volleyball hotbed, Jesus Christ. Kansas City has very good club and youth programs but they aren't producing any more division 1 talent than similar sized Midwestern cities.Wrong, the Heart of America only trails SoCal, Texas and Florida in strength. Might wanna check out the All American teams posted earlier for several prominent players that came from the KC area. The Final Four this weekend features 2 starters from Illinois, 2 starters from Nebraska & 2 starters from Stanford all from the Heart of America region. Minnesota who was a favorite for the Final Four also has 2 starters from the KC area. Jesus Christ, I think the area might be a little better than “good”.
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You said Kansas City, not Heart of America. HOA is, geographically, one of the largest regions in USAV. You didn't dispute anything about Kansas City having more or less D1 athletes than similarly sized metro areas.
Illinois has players from Topeka and Lenexa. Nebraska has one from Topeka and Stanford has 2 starters from OP.All of them except Nebraska's Jazz Sweet played for KC clubs. Nebraska's Callie Schwartzenbach from Kearney MO played for a KC club also. Volleyball has blown up in the last 7-8 years in KC. I would hope that Suzie could start taking advantage.
Geography? HOA has less than 1/3 of the membership as the other regions mentioned. If you are familiar with Open level club VB than you'll know HOA had the National Champions at 16 last year and 18 the year before. Power 5 coaches cram the courts of MAVS and KC POWER 15,17,17 year old teams at qualifiers. You're slipping with you're pointless have to argue shtick.Kansas City is by no means a volleyball hotbed, Jesus Christ. Kansas City has very good club and youth programs but they aren't producing any more division 1 talent than similar sized Midwestern cities.Wrong, the Heart of America only trails SoCal, Texas and Florida in strength. Might wanna check out the All American teams posted earlier for several prominent players that came from the KC area. The Final Four this weekend features 2 starters from Illinois, 2 starters from Nebraska & 2 starters from Stanford all from the Heart of America region. Minnesota who was a favorite for the Final Four also has 2 starters from the KC area. Jesus Christ, I think the area might be a little better than “good”.
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You said Kansas City, not Heart of America. HOA is, geographically, one of the largest regions in USAV. You didn't dispute anything about Kansas City having more or less D1 athletes than similarly sized metro areas.
So a good example would be to compare say the Iowa region with HOA? Basically equal membership. And what national titles are you talking about 18 years ago, the lower level region bid awarded? The 12-13 yr old age groups? FYI, in 2018 HOA had 12 teams qualify Open, 10 of them from KC Clubs. Iowa had 2. Apparently the KC area indeed is producing talent at a higher clip than you believed. Didn't this start with your claim that KC was painfully just average in spitting out D1 players? Your clownsuit is perfectly tailored but I will continue to make all the unnecessary alterations that you request.Geography? HOA has less than 1/3 of the membership as the other regions mentioned. If you are familiar with Open level club VB than you'll know HOA had the National Champions at 16 last year and 18 the year before. Power 5 coaches cram the courts of MAVS and KC POWER 15,17,17 year old teams at qualifiers. You're slipping with you're pointless have to argue shtick.Kansas City is by no means a volleyball hotbed, Jesus Christ. Kansas City has very good club and youth programs but they aren't producing any more division 1 talent than similar sized Midwestern cities.Wrong, the Heart of America only trails SoCal, Texas and Florida in strength. Might wanna check out the All American teams posted earlier for several prominent players that came from the KC area. The Final Four this weekend features 2 starters from Illinois, 2 starters from Nebraska & 2 starters from Stanford all from the Heart of America region. Minnesota who was a favorite for the Final Four also has 2 starters from the KC area. Jesus Christ, I think the area might be a little better than “good”.
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You said Kansas City, not Heart of America. HOA is, geographically, one of the largest regions in USAV. You didn't dispute anything about Kansas City having more or less D1 athletes than similarly sized metro areas.
I literally said "Kansas City has very good club and youth programs." I also never said that KC or HOA doesn't produce D1 athletes. I took exception to your posturing that Kansas City has more talent than any like sized cities. You haven't proven your point, you just keep reiterating that HOA have good club programs, a point I wholeheartedly agree with.
I'll also take exception to "volleyball has blown up in the last 7-8 years in KC." It seems like you've been paying attention for only "the last 7-8 years." I started coaching clubs in HOA 18 years ago and the region was producing about a dozen D1 players a year and winning club national championships back then. The only real change is the Big 10 getting better and coming into the region for talent.
Your 1/3 membership claim is dubious when it comes to the neighboring regions. Compared to some of the southern and west coast regions, Rocky Mountain, North Texas, Lone Star, Keystone, sure; but to Iowa, Nebraska, St. Louis, Oklahoma, and Arkansas. Stop it.
So a good example would be to compare say the Iowa region with HOA? Basically equal membership. And what national titles are you talking about 18 years ago, the lower level region bid awarded? The 12-13 yr old age groups? FYI, in 2018 HOA had 12 teams qualify Open, 10 of them from KC Clubs. Iowa had 2. Apparently the KC area indeed is producing talent at a higher clip than you believed. Didn't this start with your claim that KC was painfully just average in spitting out D1 players? Your clownsuit is perfectly tailored but I will continue to make all the unnecessary alterations that you request.Geography? HOA has less than 1/3 of the membership as the other regions mentioned. If you are familiar with Open level club VB than you'll know HOA had the National Champions at 16 last year and 18 the year before. Power 5 coaches cram the courts of MAVS and KC POWER 15,17,17 year old teams at qualifiers. You're slipping with you're pointless have to argue shtick.Kansas City is by no means a volleyball hotbed, Jesus Christ. Kansas City has very good club and youth programs but they aren't producing any more division 1 talent than similar sized Midwestern cities.Wrong, the Heart of America only trails SoCal, Texas and Florida in strength. Might wanna check out the All American teams posted earlier for several prominent players that came from the KC area. The Final Four this weekend features 2 starters from Illinois, 2 starters from Nebraska & 2 starters from Stanford all from the Heart of America region. Minnesota who was a favorite for the Final Four also has 2 starters from the KC area. Jesus Christ, I think the area might be a little better than “good”.
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You said Kansas City, not Heart of America. HOA is, geographically, one of the largest regions in USAV. You didn't dispute anything about Kansas City having more or less D1 athletes than similarly sized metro areas.
I literally said "Kansas City has very good club and youth programs." I also never said that KC or HOA doesn't produce D1 athletes. I took exception to your posturing that Kansas City has more talent than any like sized cities. You haven't proven your point, you just keep reiterating that HOA have good club programs, a point I wholeheartedly agree with.
I'll also take exception to "volleyball has blown up in the last 7-8 years in KC." It seems like you've been paying attention for only "the last 7-8 years." I started coaching clubs in HOA 18 years ago and the region was producing about a dozen D1 players a year and winning club national championships back then. The only real change is the Big 10 getting better and coming into the region for talent.
Your 1/3 membership claim is dubious when it comes to the neighboring regions. Compared to some of the southern and west coast regions, Rocky Mountain, North Texas, Lone Star, Keystone, sure; but to Iowa, Nebraska, St. Louis, Oklahoma, and Arkansas. Stop it.
Kansas City area is a hotbed for VB talent. Suzie and staff, with a few exceptions are getting stomped recruiting that area.What is dubious about this statement MIR? It is indeed a hotbed for talent & by in large they are not ending up in Manhattan.
i mean, i have no idea if we can hire someone better, but that should not be a reason to keep her around
Kansas City area is a hotbed for VB talent. Suzie and staff, with a few exceptions are getting stomped recruiting that area.What is dubious about this statement MIR? It is indeed a hotbed for talent & by in large they are not ending up in Manhattan.
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i mean, i have no idea if we can hire someone better, but that should not be a reason to keep her around
It absolutely should be. I mean I'd buy that argument if she wasn't successful but she averages a tournament appearance every other year, she's a wildly successful P5 volleyball coach. Could we strike gold with finding the next Kevin Hambly, maybe, but that's a huge risk when I'm not sure it's needed.
i mean, i have no idea if we can hire someone better, but that should not be a reason to keep her around
It absolutely should be. I mean I'd buy that argument if she wasn't successful but she averages a tournament appearance every other year, she's a wildly successful P5 volleyball coach. Could we strike gold with finding the next Kevin Hambly, maybe, but that's a huge risk when I'm not sure it's needed.
look i get it that you're going to defend her until the end but i disagree that she's been wildly successful.
she hasn't placed better than 4th in the b12 in the past decade and hasn't gotten past the 2nd round in the ncaa tournament since 2011.
maybe you and i just have a different definition of what success means, but her record isn't it to me.
Should have never let Bird fly away from Lawrence to College Station. Suzie's roster is full of HOA kids but not high impact ones. Hope that changes with Anna Dixon who's enrolling in January. There are plenty of studs from HOA that didn't end up at the "traditional" powers. I'll start with the setters from Kentucky & Loyola Marymount. Suzie had always run a slower offense with big physical outsides. She recruited Sandbothe as an athletic smaller MB and Zumach really slimmed down so maybe she's starting to move towards a quicker more athletic group.i mean, i have no idea if we can hire someone better, but that should not be a reason to keep her around
It absolutely should be. I mean I'd buy that argument if she wasn't successful but she averages a tournament appearance every other year, she's a wildly successful P5 volleyball coach. Could we strike gold with finding the next Kevin Hambly, maybe, but that's a huge risk when I'm not sure it's needed.
look i get it that you're going to defend her until the end but i disagree that she's been wildly successful.
she hasn't placed better than 4th in the b12 in the past decade and hasn't gotten past the 2nd round in the ncaa tournament since 2011.
maybe you and i just have a different definition of what success means, but her record isn't it to me.
I'm not going to defend her to the death. I want Dawn Sullivan here but the fact of the matter is that if you're an athletic director it's very tough to fire a coach of an Olympic sport who's in the post season every other season, keeps her nose clean, and usually has the best APR in all conference teams across all sports.
I usually stay out of these conversations about Suzie because people won't acknowledge the measurements for success for non revenue sports are different. I know you aren't trolling like these Suzie discussions usually resort to.
Should have never let Bird fly away from Lawrence to College Station. Suzie's roster is full of HOA kids but not high impact ones. Hope that changes with Anna Dixon who's enrolling in January. There are plenty of studs from HOA that didn't end up at the "traditional" powers. I'll start with the setters from Kentucky & Loyola Marymount. Suzie had always run a slower offense with big physical outsides. She recruited Sandbothe as an athletic smaller MB and Zumach really slimmed down so maybe she's starting to move towards a quicker more athletic group.i mean, i have no idea if we can hire someone better, but that should not be a reason to keep her around
It absolutely should be. I mean I'd buy that argument if she wasn't successful but she averages a tournament appearance every other year, she's a wildly successful P5 volleyball coach. Could we strike gold with finding the next Kevin Hambly, maybe, but that's a huge risk when I'm not sure it's needed.
look i get it that you're going to defend her until the end but i disagree that she's been wildly successful.
she hasn't placed better than 4th in the b12 in the past decade and hasn't gotten past the 2nd round in the ncaa tournament since 2011.
maybe you and i just have a different definition of what success means, but her record isn't it to me.
I'm not going to defend her to the death. I want Dawn Sullivan here but the fact of the matter is that if you're an athletic director it's very tough to fire a coach of an Olympic sport who's in the post season every other season, keeps her nose clean, and usually has the best APR in all conference teams across all sports.
I usually stay out of these conversations about Suzie because people won't acknowledge the measurements for success for non revenue sports are different. I know you aren't trolling like these Suzie discussions usually resort to.
Wish we could have pulled Kylee’s little sister.Should have never let Bird fly away from Lawrence to College Station. Suzie's roster is full of HOA kids but not high impact ones. Hope that changes with Anna Dixon who's enrolling in January. There are plenty of studs from HOA that didn't end up at the "traditional" powers. I'll start with the setters from Kentucky & Loyola Marymount. Suzie had always run a slower offense with big physical outsides. She recruited Sandbothe as an athletic smaller MB and Zumach really slimmed down so maybe she's starting to move towards a quicker more athletic group.i mean, i have no idea if we can hire someone better, but that should not be a reason to keep her around
It absolutely should be. I mean I'd buy that argument if she wasn't successful but she averages a tournament appearance every other year, she's a wildly successful P5 volleyball coach. Could we strike gold with finding the next Kevin Hambly, maybe, but that's a huge risk when I'm not sure it's needed.
look i get it that you're going to defend her until the end but i disagree that she's been wildly successful.
she hasn't placed better than 4th in the b12 in the past decade and hasn't gotten past the 2nd round in the ncaa tournament since 2011.
maybe you and i just have a different definition of what success means, but her record isn't it to me.
I'm not going to defend her to the death. I want Dawn Sullivan here but the fact of the matter is that if you're an athletic director it's very tough to fire a coach of an Olympic sport who's in the post season every other season, keeps her nose clean, and usually has the best APR in all conference teams across all sports.
I usually stay out of these conversations about Suzie because people won't acknowledge the measurements for success for non revenue sports are different. I know you aren't trolling like these Suzie discussions usually resort to.
I agree with all of that. I love Kylee, one of my favorite cats OAT, she's still what I'd consider, lumbering.
Kari? Is she any good, I haven't seen her play. I only saw Creighton play Nebraska and she didn't play. Red shirt?Played great for a frosh. Not trying to bring up recruiting again but it seems Booth is a bigger threat to KState than Bechard. Snuck in & stole Kendra Wait from the Hawks & A&M. She will be in the convo in a couple of years for National HS Player of the Year.
Kari? Is she any good, I haven't seen her play. I only saw Creighton play Nebraska and she didn't play. Red shirt?Played great for a frosh. Not trying to bring up recruiting again but it seems Booth is a bigger threat to KState than Bechard. Snuck in & stole Kendra Wait from the Hawks & A&M. She will be in the convo in a couple of years for National HS Player of the Year.
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Not certain what the deal is. The Waits are a KState family, Bechard gets Cassie to walk on @ KU & we know the rest of the story. The high level talent seems to end up at Power & MAVS. Dixon is the first impact player she’s pulled from either club in awhile. Power already has a 2021 OH committed to OU & a 2021 MB committed to Illinois. The later is from a KState family. Suzie seems to have lost her seat at the table. Maybe she shouldn’t roster 23 kidsKari? Is she any good, I haven't seen her play. I only saw Creighton play Nebraska and she didn't play. Red shirt?Played great for a frosh. Not trying to bring up recruiting again but it seems Booth is a bigger threat to KState than Bechard. Snuck in & stole Kendra Wait from the Hawks & A&M. She will be in the convo in a couple of years for National HS Player of the Year.
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So, do you think it's an evaluation issue or is she missing on primary targets? I'm not as connected to HOA as I was when I lived there so I don't know who she is targeting.
Thank goodness NU didn’t win the deal. They are insufferable and try to talk to me about volleyball constantly. Did you watch the MATCH? No fuckface, I didn’t watch the game.They are hard to stomach for sure but one helluva program. Average around 8K for home games, if you removed the blue hair it would be about 1500.
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The Fritz's are off to a 4-5 start with losses to non VB juggernauts Missouri State, Weber State, Dayton, NC State and Maryland (as well as a five-set thriller win against Omaha). Three more matches (North Texas, Ohio, New Mexico) until Big 12 play. Probably looking at another 8th or 9th place finish in the league (only 9 teams), which would be the third straight year finishing last or next-to-last.
Even though Suzie's under contract through 2020, time for Gene to start working the phones?
The Fritz's are off to a 4-5 start with losses to non VB juggernauts Missouri State, Weber State, Dayton, NC State and Maryland (as well as a five-set thriller win against Omaha). Three more matches (North Texas, Ohio, New Mexico) until Big 12 play. Probably looking at another 8th or 9th place finish in the league (only 9 teams), which would be the third straight year finishing last or next-to-last.
Even though Suzie's under contract through 2020, time for Gene to start working the phones?
You could see this crap show coming. Sandbothe bolted to Ohio St as a grad transfer which left a big hole. If it makes anybody feel better, it’s happening at KU also.
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UNLV recently slipped into HOA & took a talented 2021 OH that I guess Suzie didn’t think was good enough?The Fritz's are off to a 4-5 start with losses to non VB juggernauts Missouri State, Weber State, Dayton, NC State and Maryland (as well as a five-set thriller win against Omaha). Three more matches (North Texas, Ohio, New Mexico) until Big 12 play. Probably looking at another 8th or 9th place finish in the league (only 9 teams), which would be the third straight year finishing last or next-to-last.
Even though Suzie's under contract through 2020, time for Gene to start working the phones?
I will still contend that the standard for Olympic coaches is much different, I'm starting to lose patience. This will be the first time since 1995 that we will go three years without a tournament appearance. She still isn't in the position where she should be fire after this season, 12 tournament appearances in 19 years is very good. The trend however is bad. This team is young but they will need to replace the setter, you can't continually sell a rebuild. This team will finish with around 10 wins. For her to get 2021, I think that she can't lose any key players before 2020 and that team needs to, at the very least, be on the tournament bubble.
Meanwhile UNLV has a bad record but they have put together a ridiculous schedule. They play KU this weekend. Dawn is clearly building to conference play and is willing to take a beating in the non-con.
I'll say it again, my "in the know" Kansas and Midwest V-ball contact told me that Suzie went into some weird ass recruiting spiel multiple times that sent multiple P5 players highly interested in K-State elsewhere. Total turn off to student-athlete and parents.
Nice win against KU after falling in an 0-2 hole. Dixon figuring it out very quickly. MIR, did you see Kari Zumach transferred to Indiana?I did not. Odd choice, wonder why she picked there? They aren't that good and it looks like she was a sub when she did play but now she isn't playing at all.
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Suzie Cats are now 8-17. Kansas HS players of the year in each class have been released. 6A POY is a South Dakota commit. SD sits at #38 in RPI, a full 150 spots ahead of the Cats. 5A POY is a KU commit & on the USA under 18 team. 2 of the top libero’s in the country are from KS and are committed to Creighton & Louisville. One of the top 2021 setters in the country is from KS & is also a Creighton commit. We are getting embarrassed on the recruiting front. It’s time...
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She's not going anywhere until she gets the new arena.
On a related note Coach Dibs has had $14.5 million dollars worth new facilities built for his program since its inception. The fastest facilities trajectory in K-State athletic history. Other women's soccer program quite literally waited decades to get what K-State has now.
Time to get beyond 1 conference win a year.
The fastest facilities trajectory in K-State athletic history.
I think it’s time for a change. They have a decent recruiting class next year. One is in the top 50 and another in the top 100. Maybe they could be ok with another coach.I wouldn’t pay an ounce of attention to those player rankings outside the top 20. There’s a local KC kid in the Top 100 that can’t get on the floor for her below average HS team.
Yeah bud, pretty safe bet we're going to have players transfer out and in, every program has them, there's hundreds every year. Lexi freaking Sun transferred, nothing is sacred.I’ve heard there are some comical reasons that are used to gain immediate eligibility. It’s basically a given now that they don’t have to sit a season.
Comparatively speaking, Fritz has had a pretty sweet ride compared to other K-State coaches as it relates to facilities (when Snyder first arrived, the tennis team, the rowing team, etc.). Many didn't even have facilities for years. Or, in Mike Clark's case, he had a junior high field and then had to play on the road for an entire season (which, literally, included a series against Maryland on a middle school field).
Fritz's facility issues/complaints pale in comparison.
Comparatively speaking, Fritz has had a pretty sweet ride compared to other K-State coaches as it relates to facilities (when Snyder first arrived, the tennis team, the rowing team, etc.). Many didn't even have facilities for years. Or, in Mike Clark's case, he had a junior high field and then had to play on the road for an entire season (which, literally, included a series against Maryland on a middle school field).
Fritz's facility issues/complaints pale in comparison.
Holy hell is this ridiculous.
Comparatively speaking, Fritz has had a pretty sweet ride compared to other K-State coaches as it relates to facilities (when Snyder first arrived, the tennis team, the rowing team, etc.). Many didn't even have facilities for years. Or, in Mike Clark's case, he had a junior high field and then had to play on the road for an entire season (which, literally, included a series against Maryland on a middle school field).
Fritz's facility issues/complaints pale in comparison.
Holy hell is this ridiculous.
No, it's really not. Historically speaking, K-State facilities have been quite poor. But, Fritz/VB haven't been nearly as poor as the vast majority of the other sports.
Comparatively speaking, Fritz has had a pretty sweet ride compared to other K-State coaches as it relates to facilities (when Snyder first arrived, the tennis team, the rowing team, etc.). Many didn't even have facilities for years. Or, in Mike Clark's case, he had a junior high field and then had to play on the road for an entire season (which, literally, included a series against Maryland on a middle school field).
Fritz's facility issues/complaints pale in comparison.
Holy hell is this ridiculous.
No, it's really not. Historically speaking, K-State facilities have been quite poor. But, Fritz/VB haven't been nearly as poor as the vast majority of the other sports.
Even if this is true, how in the world is it relevant? Is she recruiting against other college volleyball programs or the K-State baseball team?
Anna Dixon transferring to Mizzou. Horrible look for the program considering her KState bloodlines....& she won’t be the only significant departure.
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I only caught the last 2.5 sets, but the block was better than I was expecting (in particular, Archibong looked good). It is WVU, but, baby steps... splitting with ISU last weekend was also a positive sign.That’s Archibongs game going back to HS. Hope they can continue to develop her offense, she can bounce it.
I only caught the last 2.5 sets, but the block was better than I was expecting (in particular, Archibong looked good). It is WVU, but, baby steps... splitting with ISU last weekend was also a positive sign.
Just saw on the ESPN bottom line that we are #13. Seems good?
I’m watching, we look good!Just saw on the ESPN bottom line that we are #13. Seems good?
They are only ranking the teams that are playing. We're much better but not that good. This performance against UT is a much better gauge of how good we are because they are a legit top 5 team. The women look great, I'm thrilled.
Waaayyyyy too early for that
Waaayyyyy too early for that
I’m impressed by the talent. I’d heard the ‘cruitin’ had a real uptick, but wow. I honestly wasn’t sure Sue had another run in her. Happy for her to be getting much deserved facilities and money support as well.
They should leave Carter in the back row. One of our DS is not good.
Well it’s not ideal to recruit 3 rotation OH’s.They should leave Carter in the back row. One of our DS is not good.
Have you seen something to indicate she can dig and pass?
I haven’t seen her play much defense but I know she can hit from back there which would give them another option.
Serve receive can be a brutal initiation. They’ll find you.I haven’t seen her play much defense but I know she can hit from back there which would give them another option.
Can she though? Her height makes me very leery about her ability to hit from the back row. Even if she can, this level of volleyball has players who can absolutely expose anyone who is a defensive liability. You can't be defending with 5 players and expect to win.
Serve receive can be a brutal initiation. They’ll find you.I haven’t seen her play much defense but I know she can hit from back there which would give them another option.
Can she though? Her height makes me very leery about her ability to hit from the back row. Even if she can, this level of volleyball has players who can absolutely expose anyone who is a defensive liability. You can't be defending with 5 players and expect to win.
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I don't know if we recruited her or not. I do know she committed there over a year ago, so if he's just finding out about this via tweet, I have to wonder how close he is to her.
She plays for KC Power, which is the best club in the country. The team brooke played on had every player receive a D1 scholarship, including one who is coming here. We don't do as well with that club as any of us would like, I think we've had 5 or 6 signings from Power the last decade or so, but those girls all get recruited nationally. They aren't regional recruits we're missing on because we don't know who they are.
I don't know if we recruited her or not. I do know she committed there over a year ago, so if he's just finding out about this via tweet, I have to wonder how close he is to her.Brooke had a pretty serious injury that sidetracked her recruiting. You dig yourself a hole with Power if they send their setter to KState & the staff screws her around. That was 7-8 years ago & still not forgotten.
She plays for KC Power, which is the best club in the country. The team brooke played on had every player receive a D1 scholarship, including one who is coming here. We don't do as well with that club as any of us would like, I think we've had 5 or 6 signings from Power the last decade or so, but those girls all get recruited nationally. They aren't regional recruits we're missing on because we don't know who they are.
I don't know if we recruited her or not. I do know she committed there over a year ago, so if he's just finding out about this via tweet, I have to wonder how close he is to her.
She plays for KC Power, which is the best club in the country. The team brooke played on had every player receive a D1 scholarship, including one who is coming here. We don't do as well with that club as any of us would like, I think we've had 5 or 6 signings from Power the last decade or so, but those girls all get recruited nationally. They aren't regional recruits we're missing on because we don't know who they are.
You dig yourself a hole with Power if they send their setter to KState & the staff screws her around. That was 7-8 years ago & still not forgotten.
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Yes a few, the best being Anna Dixon, a legacy KStater.........I don't know if we recruited her or not. I do know she committed there over a year ago, so if he's just finding out about this via tweet, I have to wonder how close he is to her.
She plays for KC Power, which is the best club in the country. The team brooke played on had every player receive a D1 scholarship, including one who is coming here. We don't do as well with that club as any of us would like, I think we've had 5 or 6 signings from Power the last decade or so, but those girls all get recruited nationally. They aren't regional recruits we're missing on because we don't know who they are.
You dig yourself a hole with Power if they send their setter to KState & the staff screws her around. That was 7-8 years ago & still not forgotten.
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We've signed players from them in that timeline.
Unfortunately, there isn't much to win this season, no tournament so the prize we're looking for is second in the conference.
So five transfers and four of them have already graduated. Not ideal, but not a crisis either.
We're a damn good volleyball team. Could have won that match. The momentum turned on that bullshit 4 contact call when Suzie reviewed the bullshit net call.UNO took Nebraska to 5. I think we'll be better but we aren't spiking up until we have the facilities. We are The Booth for Big 12 VB facilities.
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/030/967/spongebob.jpg)When they recruit outsides they want to see all of the shots. Carter is a really good athlete that's now getting defended. She doesn't have all the shots. That's on Suzie. The good ones get to wail away in HS, it doesn't work against P5.
Awful loss tonight. This should have been a tournament team, but they're tied for last place in the conference. I'm officially done with this staff. Suzie had a cool pullover on tonight tho, but I'm done.
Flipping back in between tech cats game and Nubb wisky.. holy moly night and day between those teams (obvs) but we are sooo far off from being a good team.
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With this team, splits with KU and ISU and being swept by Texas seems like the most likely outcome. I don't think that will be enough to get us in, but we'll see. As always, the losses to bad teams/teams you should beat is a killer for a Fritz team.
With this team, splits with KU and ISU and being swept by Texas seems like the most likely outcome. I don't think that will be enough to get us in, but we'll see. As always, the losses to bad teams/teams you should beat is a killer for a Fritz team.They aren't beating KU. Their dipshit coach can at least recruit.
With this team, splits with KU and ISU and being swept by Texas seems like the most likely outcome. I don't think that will be enough to get us in, but we'll see. As always, the losses to bad teams/teams you should beat is a killer for a Fritz team.
I agree with that as a likely outcome, also agree that it won't get us in. I'd like to know why tonight's match isn't on espn+.
With this team, splits with KU and ISU and being swept by Texas seems like the most likely outcome. I don't think that will be enough to get us in, but we'll see. As always, the losses to bad teams/teams you should beat is a killer for a Fritz team.They aren't beating KU. Their dipshit coach can at least recruit.
With this team, splits with KU and ISU and being swept by Texas seems like the most likely outcome. I don't think that will be enough to get us in, but we'll see. As always, the losses to bad teams/teams you should beat is a killer for a Fritz team.
I agree with that as a likely outcome, also agree that it won't get us in. I'd like to know why tonight's match isn't on espn+.
Could be wrong, but my guess is that K-State provides the production team for the ESPN+ contests and might not have the staff to handle two contests at the same time. With soccer having senior night, they chose that over VB. And, it's perfectly fitting that soccer pooped their pants with a bid to the Big 12 tournament on the line.
I told you.Good for you. K-State sports keeps on impressing. :sdeek:
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In for the first time since 2016... here's to another 10-year contract extension for Suzie.Shocking
:ROFL: I didn't even watch the selection show. How in the hell did that happen? Arkansas has a better RPI, conference record, and overall record and they were left out.
We have the best outside hitter in school history on this damned team, any way cats are gonna get freaking rolled. Susie succcckkkkkks
We have the best outside hitter in school history on this damned team, any way cats are gonna get freaking rolled. Susie succcckkkkkks
We have the best outside hitter in school history on this damned team, any way cats are gonna get freaking rolled. Susie succcckkkkkksDon't think hitting .187 & .199 in back to back years qualifies for greatest in school history or for that matter comes even close.
We have the best outside hitter in school history on this damned team, any way cats are gonna get freaking rolled. Susie succcckkkkkksDon't think hitting .187 & .199 in back to back years qualifies for greatest in school history or for that matter comes even close.
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Fellas, still very new to volleyball advanced analytics please explain this to me like im 5We have the best outside hitter in school history on this damned team, any way cats are gonna get freaking rolled. Susie succcckkkkkksDon't think hitting .187 & .199 in back to back years qualifies for greatest in school history or for that matter comes even close.
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To that point, I'm not sure this team can be terribly successful running virtually everything through Carter. I'm too lazy to look, but it'd be interesting to see her numbers split out against +.500 teams vs. -.500 teams. Obviously, anyone's numbers would go down, but I would guess a more sizable decrease in this case (especially on the % and hitting errors).
Fellas, still very new to volleyball advanced analytics please explain this to me like im 5We have the best outside hitter in school history on this damned team, any way cats are gonna get freaking rolled. Susie succcckkkkkksDon't think hitting .187 & .199 in back to back years qualifies for greatest in school history or for that matter comes even close.
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To that point, I'm not sure this team can be terribly successful running virtually everything through Carter. I'm too lazy to look, but it'd be interesting to see her numbers split out against +.500 teams vs. -.500 teams. Obviously, anyone's numbers would go down, but I would guess a more sizable decrease in this case (especially on the % and hitting errors).
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Damn, thank you for this insight. I appreciate it! So best outside hitter in school history is?!Fellas, still very new to volleyball advanced analytics please explain this to me like im 5We have the best outside hitter in school history on this damned team, any way cats are gonna get freaking rolled. Susie succcckkkkkksDon't think hitting .187 & .199 in back to back years qualifies for greatest in school history or for that matter comes even close.
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To that point, I'm not sure this team can be terribly successful running virtually everything through Carter. I'm too lazy to look, but it'd be interesting to see her numbers split out against +.500 teams vs. -.500 teams. Obviously, anyone's numbers would go down, but I would guess a more sizable decrease in this case (especially on the % and hitting errors).
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Kills minus hitting errors divided by total attacks = hitting percentage.
As it relates to what's good, it varies by position. Generally, middles hit the highest followed by the opposite hitter and then the outside hitters.
People will argue about what is "good" but for a high volume OH like Carter, you'd like to see that hit percentage above .200 and, ideally, closer to .250. Anything above .250, I think you'd be thrilled.
If Suzie could diversify the offense a bit more, you'd see Carter's percentage increase as well. As it stands, she's the person who often gets stuck with attacks that have zero chance of being successful.
Damn, thank you for this insight. I appreciate it! So best outside hitter in school history is?!Fellas, still very new to volleyball advanced analytics please explain this to me like im 5We have the best outside hitter in school history on this damned team, any way cats are gonna get freaking rolled. Susie succcckkkkkksDon't think hitting .187 & .199 in back to back years qualifies for greatest in school history or for that matter comes even close.
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To that point, I'm not sure this team can be terribly successful running virtually everything through Carter. I'm too lazy to look, but it'd be interesting to see her numbers split out against +.500 teams vs. -.500 teams. Obviously, anyone's numbers would go down, but I would guess a more sizable decrease in this case (especially on the % and hitting errors).
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Kills minus hitting errors divided by total attacks = hitting percentage.
As it relates to what's good, it varies by position. Generally, middles hit the highest followed by the opposite hitter and then the outside hitters.
People will argue about what is "good" but for a high volume OH like Carter, you'd like to see that hit percentage above .200 and, ideally, closer to .250. Anything above .250, I think you'd be thrilled.
If Suzie could diversify the offense a bit more, you'd see Carter's percentage increase as well. As it stands, she's the person who often gets stuck with attacks that have zero chance of being successful.
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Outside Hitters numbers also go way down with crap passing. They get almost all of the out of system trash caused by a poor pass. It requires you to play cooperatively vs aggressively. Stat killer.Fellas, still very new to volleyball advanced analytics please explain this to me like im 5We have the best outside hitter in school history on this damned team, any way cats are gonna get freaking rolled. Susie succcckkkkkksDon't think hitting .187 & .199 in back to back years qualifies for greatest in school history or for that matter comes even close.
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To that point, I'm not sure this team can be terribly successful running virtually everything through Carter. I'm too lazy to look, but it'd be interesting to see her numbers split out against +.500 teams vs. -.500 teams. Obviously, anyone's numbers would go down, but I would guess a more sizable decrease in this case (especially on the % and hitting errors).
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Kills minus hitting errors divided by total attacks = hitting percentage.
As it relates to what's good, it varies by position. Generally, middles hit the highest followed by the opposite hitter and then the outside hitters.
People will argue about what is "good" but for a high volume OH like Carter, you'd like to see that hit percentage above .200 and, ideally, closer to .250. Anything above .250, I think you'd be thrilled.
If Suzie could diversify the offense a bit more, you'd see Carter's percentage increase as well. As it stands, she's the person who often gets stuck with attacks that have zero chance of being successful.
?s=21Continuing to rewrite the record books.@aliyah_carter22 is the first player in program history to be a unanimous All-@Big12Conference First Team selection as a freshman and a sophomore 😼
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May god bless her shoulder after 1130 swings. Murder?s=21Continuing to rewrite the record books.@aliyah_carter22 is the first player in program history to be a unanimous All-@Big12Conference First Team selection as a freshman and a sophomore 😼
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The thing I will say as it relates to Aaliyah and Dawn is that Dawn was on some incredible teams, completely stacked and balanced. Dirty Deeds did mention her number of attempts, which is unreal, but Aaliyah doesn't have anyone else on this team capable of attracting blockers. Our middles get disrespected because the blockers just camp out with Aaliyah and we just can't capitalize in the middle the way we need to........and we pass like crap.
The thing I will say as it relates to Aaliyah and Dawn is that Dawn was on some incredible teams, completely stacked and balanced. Dirty Deeds did mention her number of attempts, which is unreal, but Aaliyah doesn't have anyone else on this team capable of attracting blockers. Our middles get disrespected because the blockers just camp out with Aaliyah and we just can't capitalize in the middle the way we need to........and we pass like crap.
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The most difficult skill in the game by far.The thing I will say as it relates to Aaliyah and Dawn is that Dawn was on some incredible teams, completely stacked and balanced. Dirty Deeds did mention her number of attempts, which is unreal, but Aaliyah doesn't have anyone else on this team capable of attracting blockers. Our middles get disrespected because the blockers just camp out with Aaliyah and we just can't capitalize in the middle the way we need to........and we pass like crap.
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A skill Carter also really needs to work on...
The University of Kansas SHOCKED Oregon AND the world by winning in straight sets today in impressive fashion :gocho:Intriguing matchup with one of the best Kansas athletes of all time Kendra Wait and her Creighton Bluejays up next.
Naturally, Suzie's mentor gets KU to the Sweet 16 with upsets of two top 20 teams.KU doing it with Kansas kids who had KSU bloodlines. Embarrassing
And, presumably, Suzie will lose at least a couple of key players to the portal during the offseason.
Did we recruit them?Naturally, Suzie's mentor gets KU to the Sweet 16 with upsets of two top 20 teams.KU doing it with Kansas kids who had KSU bloodlines. Embarrassing
And, presumably, Suzie will lose at least a couple of key players to the portal during the offseason.
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I'd hope so since everyone else did. Bien & Crawford decided they'd stay home, which ended up being KU. The real jewel is lightly recruited setter Cam Turner from Topeka Seaman. You could already argue that she's the best setter in the conference. She just took over the job 3 weeks ago. If you get a chance to watch their Sweet 16 match do it. She's a special player. Stupid athleticDid we recruit them?Naturally, Suzie's mentor gets KU to the Sweet 16 with upsets of two top 20 teams.KU doing it with Kansas kids who had KSU bloodlines. Embarrassing
And, presumably, Suzie will lose at least a couple of key players to the portal during the offseason.
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I have several close friends very much ITK relative to MW VB. Just some huge misses and unfavorable experiences with K-State in the process.Naturally, Suzie's mentor gets KU to the Sweet 16 with upsets of two top 20 teams.KU doing it with Kansas kids who had KSU bloodlines. Embarrassing
And, presumably, Suzie will lose at least a couple of key players to the portal during the offseason.
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In the landscape of P5 volleyball, where will the new arena and training facility put us?
In the landscape of P5 volleyball, where will the new arena and training facility put us?
There are some volleyball only facilities but not a ton. Most stand alone facilities are converted old basketball facilities. KU actually has one of the most notable stand alone facilities specifically built for volleyball. It's notable in that it's their second one. Their first volleyball only facility was built in the 90's, their latest one is just two years old. I haven't seen it so I can't speak to how nice it is. I do know it was built in 8 months which, to me, gives up real pole barn vibes which is what their first building essentially was.
In the landscape of P5 volleyball, where will the new arena and training facility put us?
There are some volleyball only facilities but not a ton. Most stand alone facilities are converted old basketball facilities. KU actually has one of the most notable stand alone facilities specifically built for volleyball. It's notable in that it's their second one. Their first volleyball only facility was built in the 90's, their latest one is just two years old. I haven't seen it so I can't speak to how nice it is. I do know it was built in 8 months which, to me, gives up real pole barn vibes which is what their first building essentially was.
I've probably been in around 30 DI facilities across the country and our new home should comfortably put us in the top 25.
Having said that, to MIR's point, probably half of the D1 facilities across the country are complete crap. Of the other half, most are playing in either current b-ball primary arenas or old arenas no longer in use for b-ball that have been converted for VB. I'm sure it's not as bad as it was in the past, but Mississippi State played their matches in a rodeo arena that had a dirt floor. It would be the equivalent of K-State playing in the Ag school's Weber Arena.
Why does that matter? While Ahearn certainly wasn't in the top 25 facilities-wise, it was no excuse for Suzie to suck at her job. There are top 25 programs with worse facilities than Ahearn and it shouldn't have been allowed to be her crux for being bad at her job for the better part of the past decade.
In the landscape of P5 volleyball, where will the new arena and training facility put us?
There are some volleyball only facilities but not a ton. Most stand alone facilities are converted old basketball facilities. KU actually has one of the most notable stand alone facilities specifically built for volleyball. It's notable in that it's their second one. Their first volleyball only facility was built in the 90's, their latest one is just two years old. I haven't seen it so I can't speak to how nice it is. I do know it was built in 8 months which, to me, gives up real pole barn vibes which is what their first building essentially was.
I've probably been in around 30 DI facilities across the country and our new home should comfortably put us in the top 25.
Having said that, to MIR's point, probably half of the D1 facilities across the country are complete crap. Of the other half, most are playing in either current b-ball primary arenas or old arenas no longer in use for b-ball that have been converted for VB. I'm sure it's not as bad as it was in the past, but Mississippi State played their matches in a rodeo arena that had a dirt floor. It would be the equivalent of K-State playing in the Ag school's Weber Arena.
Why does that matter? While Ahearn certainly wasn't in the top 25 facilities-wise, it was no excuse for Suzie to suck at her job. There are top 25 programs with worse facilities than Ahearn and it shouldn't have been allowed to be her crux for being bad at her job for the better part of the past decade.
From what I've heard too, Suzie chose Ahearn as opposed to Bramlage.
I enjoyed going to vb games at Ahearn.. Bramlage two thumbs down for vb
I hope we are looking @ Creighton's DJamer Sokol Arena as a blueprint. Something similar would be perfect.I enjoyed going to vb games at Ahearn.. Bramlage two thumbs down for vb
I agree but if there were complaints about Ahearn, she had other options. The new facility will clearly be light years beyond either though.
This place isn't too shabby either.
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So her seat is incredibly hot once that facility is done right?
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We are honored to break ground on Morgan Family Arena and Olympic Training Center
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No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.It should be a tremendous help in recruiting the next volleyball coach.
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.I agree with all of this
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.I agree with all of this
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
That is obviously wrong. Gene and his friends are winning $$ daily. I also imagine the GC and subs who build this crap are also likely feeling like winners as well.
^^^^^^No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
That is obviously wrong. Gene and his friends are winning $$ daily. I also imagine the GC and subs who build this crap are also likely feeling like winners as well.
I promise you that Gene cares about this as much as you and most K-Stater. The mediocrity isn't intentional, just gross ineffectiveness.
No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.I agree with all of this
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
Me too and it's time to bring Dawn home.
No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
That is obviously wrong. Gene and his friends are winning $$ daily. I also imagine the GC and subs who build this crap are also likely feeling like winners as well.
No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.I agree with all of this
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
Me too and it's time to bring Dawn home.
Dawn?
I know I should know this.
Gonna end up being Nebraska vs Wisconsin right?I'd guess their experience would be a huge advantage over Pitt & Louisville but all 4 have looked very strong. Purdue is no joke & Pitt mauled them. Lekotor is a blast to watch.
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No more vapor ware, or drawings, there's now officially moving dirt and soon a real building to recruit to.I agree with all of this
Everybody at K-State has nice stuff. It's time to start expecting more and to stop allowing coaches to just hang around for years and years and years.
I get that they don't have the biggest budgets yada yada yada, but they have plenty. Time to start doing something with it.
My concern is K-State is going to be one of those schools that invests tens of millions dollars into stuff, and nobody wins anything.
Me too and it's time to bring Dawn home.
Dawn?
I know I should know this.
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At least 2 in the portal, would be surprised if there aren't more.
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I think Mati, the girl from Italy is the other oneAt least 2 in the portal, would be surprised if there aren't more.I've only seen Nembhard, who else have you seen?
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If that's the case it's 3 & counting. Suzi, stay out of KC, the word is out. Too bad, that kid can straight ball.I think Mati, the girl from Italy is the other oneAt least 2 in the portal, would be surprised if there aren't more.I've only seen Nembhard, who else have you seen?
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If that's the case it's 3 & counting. Suzi, stay out of KC, the word is out. Too bad, that kid can straight ball.I think Mati, the girl from Italy is the other oneAt least 2 in the portal, would be surprised if there aren't more.I've only seen Nembhard, who else have you seen?
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Because I can'tIf that's the case it's 3 & counting. Suzi, stay out of KC, the word is out. Too bad, that kid can straight ball.I think Mati, the girl from Italy is the other oneAt least 2 in the portal, would be surprised if there aren't more.I've only seen Nembhard, who else have you seen?
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Why do you keep referring to the other transfer as a done deal but won't say who it is?
So that means she isn't in the portal yet.She's in the portal, there's a several day lag before it's public
Gonna end up being Nebraska vs Wisconsin right?1 for 1.
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And Wisconsin is the National champ unless they fall flat on their 6 foot 9 cheese facesGonna end up being Nebraska vs Wisconsin right?1 for 1.
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20 kills on 27 attempts with 1 error, .704. Not fairAnd Wisconsin is the National champ unless they fall flat on their 6 foot 9 cheese facesGonna end up being Nebraska vs Wisconsin right?1 for 1.
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Also 2 kids from KS that made an impact for them last nightBut of course
The service errors were infuriating to watch by them last night. Also UL is a really really really good team.they were so infuriating
Nebraska volleyball and baseball are the sports I can in good faith cheer for here so GBR!
LolNebraska volleyball and baseball are the sports I can in good faith cheer for here so GBR!
I think I hate the army of blue haired Nebraska volleyball fans as much as I hate their fat drunk football fans. They feel the need to try to explain the game to other fans, as if it's some crap specific to Nebraska, like Runza.
Is that who you've been sitting on? She's a freshman behind a sophomore who if she waited could take another year of eligibility. It didn't appear as if Ravnsborg was ever going to play significant time here. Good for her for landing at a power conference program. I'm assuming they recruited her out of high schoolYeah, she had a ton of options out of HS as well as the portal. Very talented kid.
Welcome Home, Coach Ramatowski! 😼
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Legendary Wildcat libero Lauren Ramatowski (formerly Lauren Mathewson) returns to Manhattan as the VolleyCats' next assistant coach.
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