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Post by: Emo EMAW on October 05, 2011, 08:57:25 PM
Guys, imagine watching elite college volleyball games in this:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Walter_Pyramid.jpg/800px-Walter_Pyramid.jpg)
AND you can get raging roaring drunk. :gocho:
Post by: jtksu on October 05, 2011, 09:00:10 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 05, 2011, 09:04:31 PM
Turns out you can kick balls in volleyball. I did not know this.
Have you learned about a pancake yet? Well?!?!?!
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Post by: SwiftCat on October 06, 2011, 01:56:56 PM
I know coaches that would sling your sorry ass if you ever stuck your foot out there like you were going to do something with it.
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Turns out you can kick balls in volleyball. I did not know this.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 20, 2011, 11:17:10 AM
great win vs ku tonight, 4-1. what's that like 15-1 now? lulz, jeez ksu.
I think it is 15-1. JFC.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 24, 2011, 11:20:48 AM
Cat's beat KU last night 3-1. i guess that makes things 18-1 or something ridiculous.
Gotta just get ku out of confy. Worst AD of all time.
Post by: pissclams on November 27, 2011, 09:38:38 AM
Twenty wins, back to the NCAA, Donahue is a strong contender for conference POY as a Sophomore, one senior on the squad. Ol' Suzie has rebuilt a monster.
donahue is also a strong contender to be stalked by clams.
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Post by: fun muffin on November 28, 2011, 04:52:59 PM
Twenty wins, back to the NCAA, Donahue is a strong contender for conference POY as a Sophomore, one senior on the squad. Ol' Suzie has rebuilt a monster.
donahue is also a strong contender to be stalked by clams.
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 28, 2011, 10:49:54 PM
Good for them since the German can't teach serving for crap.
I sincerely hope you aren't referring to Suzie, because in your long posting history of talking out of your ass this would be the absolute worst. Since she's been the head coach no conference school has more aces. K-State has been 1st in the conferences for # of aces four times since she took over and has never been lower than fifth.
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Post by: ednksu on November 29, 2011, 02:44:27 AM
Post by: ednksu on November 29, 2011, 03:00:37 AM
Aces per setGood for them since the German can't teach serving for crap.
I sincerely hope you aren't referring to Suzie, because in your long posting history of talking out of your ass this would be the absolute worst. Since she's been the head coach no conference school has more aces. K-State has been 1st in the conferences for # of aces four times since she took over and has never been lower than fifth.
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http://www.ncaa.com/stats/volleyball-women/d1/current/team/48/p3
Hitting is behind KU for christ sake
#103
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/volleyball-women/d1/current/team/45/p3
yes we were 5th this year. Clearly you haven't watched or listen to many games. When you let Mizzou and KU back into matches because of services errors there is a serious issues.
Also we have no players in the top 10 of services aces.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=10410&CONTENT_ID=161837
KSU v KU stats (correct me if I'm wrong SA: Services Aces, SE: Services errors)
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?CONTENT_ID=172757&DB_OEM_ID=10410#GAME.BOX
9 Errors to 2 Aces.
Their best win against SECaggie was due to bringing that ratio back to a positive level
http://www.big12sports.com//ViewContent.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&CONTENT_ID=170256
Her philosophy is that you aren't hitting hard enough if you aren't making errors. Trying to run a razor thing margin like that is ok when you have superior talent and players on horse roids like NU, Penn St, UT. K-State needs to get the ball in play when possible to prevent rally killing points from being given away.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 29, 2011, 11:01:05 AM
Aces per setGood for them since the German can't teach serving for crap.
I sincerely hope you aren't referring to Suzie, because in your long posting history of talking out of your ass this would be the absolute worst. Since she's been the head coach no conference school has more aces. K-State has been 1st in the conferences for # of aces four times since she took over and has never been lower than fifth.
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#118
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/volleyball-women/d1/current/team/48/p3
Hitting is behind KU for christ sake
#103
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/volleyball-women/d1/current/team/45/p3
yes we were 5th this year. Clearly you haven't watched or listen to many games. When you let Mizzou and KU back into matches because of services errors there is a serious issues.
Also we have no players in the top 10 of services aces.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=10410&CONTENT_ID=161837
KSU v KU stats (correct me if I'm wrong SA: Services Aces, SE: Services errors)
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?CONTENT_ID=172757&DB_OEM_ID=10410#GAME.BOX
9 Errors to 2 Aces.
Their best win against SECaggie was due to bringing that ratio back to a positive level
http://www.big12sports.com//ViewContent.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&CONTENT_ID=170256
Her philosophy is that you aren't hitting hard enough if you aren't making errors. Trying to run a razor thing margin like that is ok when you have superior talent and players on horse roids like NU, Penn St, UT. K-State needs to get the ball in play when possible to prevent rally killing points from being given away.
I completely disagree with that. If you think you have inferior talent, I am not saying Suzie ascribes to this line of thinking just using your talking point, you don't want to be lobbing serves over the net and let your opponent, who gets the first swing on a serve receive, tee off on you. If your opponent has better hitters the last thing you want to do is get into a swinging match with them, you have to win points other ways, hence you having inferior hitters. The point of aggressive serving isn't necessarily to get aces but to disrupt the offense of the receiving team.
You said she "can't teach serving for crap.". She has no problem "teaching serving" whatever that means you are opposed to her philosophy, that doesn't mean she can't teach serving. I understand it can be frustrating to watch so many serves careen into the net, but her philosophy serves a purpose whether you agree with it or not.
Post by: ednksu on November 29, 2011, 11:25:11 AM
you do bring up a valid point with the attempted Ace in favor of allowing a team with superior talent to setup their return play. You don't want to give away service, that is 100% correct. However there is a difference between aggressive service and having an acceptable number of services errors. You should strive to limit returns and errors, not say that errors are a factor of being overly aggressive. Good point though, I'll watch for that more in the future.Aces per setGood for them since the German can't teach serving for crap.
I sincerely hope you aren't referring to Suzie, because in your long posting history of talking out of your ass this would be the absolute worst. Since she's been the head coach no conference school has more aces. K-State has been 1st in the conferences for # of aces four times since she took over and has never been lower than fifth.
comeonman
#118
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/volleyball-women/d1/current/team/48/p3
Hitting is behind KU for christ sake
#103
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/volleyball-women/d1/current/team/45/p3
yes we were 5th this year. Clearly you haven't watched or listen to many games. When you let Mizzou and KU back into matches because of services errors there is a serious issues.
Also we have no players in the top 10 of services aces.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=10410&CONTENT_ID=161837
KSU v KU stats (correct me if I'm wrong SA: Services Aces, SE: Services errors)
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?CONTENT_ID=172757&DB_OEM_ID=10410#GAME.BOX
9 Errors to 2 Aces.
Their best win against SECaggie was due to bringing that ratio back to a positive level
http://www.big12sports.com//ViewContent.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&CONTENT_ID=170256
Her philosophy is that you aren't hitting hard enough if you aren't making errors. Trying to run a razor thing margin like that is ok when you have superior talent and players on horse roids like NU, Penn St, UT. K-State needs to get the ball in play when possible to prevent rally killing points from being given away.
I completely disagree with that. If you think you have inferior talent, I am not saying Suzie ascribes to this line of thinking just using your talking point, you don't want to be lobbing serves over the net and let your opponent, who gets the first swing on a serve receive, tee off on you. If your opponent has better hitters the last thing you want to do is get into a swinging match with them, you have to win points other ways, hence you having inferior hitters. The point of aggressive serving isn't necessarily to get aces but to disrupt the offense of the receiving team.
You said she "can't teach serving for crap.". She has no problem "teaching serving" whatever that means you are opposed to her philosophy, that doesn't mean she can't teach serving. I understand it can be frustrating to watch so many serves careen into the net, but her philosophy serves a purpose whether you agree with it or not.
Post by: pissclams on December 01, 2011, 06:17:41 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on December 01, 2011, 06:36:32 PM
Sets up the first matchup of a current big 12 member and a detector in any team sport.
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Post by: bigwillie20 on December 02, 2011, 11:13:26 AM
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Post by: Stevesie60 on December 02, 2011, 09:50:26 PM
Sweet 16 baby! Beat Nebraska in Lincoln. Beat the #2 overall. We even had the band there!
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Post by: Norm93 on December 02, 2011, 09:52:14 PM
Sweet 16 baby! Beat Nebraska in Lincoln. Beat the #2 overall. We even had the band there!
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Nice win on btn2go.com. Looked like Bo Pelini was in the crowd as well. :emawkid: :emawkid:
Post by: kstater on December 02, 2011, 09:52:32 PM
Sweet 16 baby! Beat Nebraska in Lincoln. Beat the #2 overall. We even had the band there!Eh, I'm pretty sure that was a recording.
Post by: Norm93 on December 02, 2011, 09:53:57 PM
Sweet 16 baby! Beat Nebraska in Lincoln. Beat the #2 overall. We even had the band there!Eh, I'm pretty sure that was a recording.
They had them stuffed in a corner. Maybe 20 band members?
Post by: MakeItRain on December 02, 2011, 10:00:07 PM
Post by: "storm"nut on December 02, 2011, 10:01:17 PM
Sweet 16 baby! Beat Nebraska in Lincoln. Beat the #2 overall. We even had the band there!Eh, I'm pretty sure that was a recording.
Nope a pep band made the trip.
Post by: "storm"nut on December 02, 2011, 10:02:35 PM
OH HOLY crap!!!! Easily the greatest win in the history of the program. :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid:
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Post by: j-von on December 02, 2011, 11:56:56 PM
Cat fans having a joyful evening. Old dude and that lady pointing 3 fingers at each other. Front row kid joining in as well.
Fat lady needs a new K-State Proud shirt, that one is like 5 years old. One guy can't even look he's so nervous. The toughest find was probably that english nanny lady that tells bad parents how to take care of their kids. She's hiding.
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not gonna hide it boys...feels good :emawkid:
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How did K-State get to bring their band? More cheerleaders than NU? Plus a yell-leader?
Nebraska had trouble passing all night and they were out of position. If you have those two issues, it doesn't matter how great of hitters you have since you can't get them the ball.
I'm about to have a rough ridin' heart attack. It was a backhanded complement, but a complement none the less from a husker. :sdeek:
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Astounding. This team is better than this.
Hats off to K-State. They played the match of their lives tonight.
I agree with you knapp. This team has been out of whack since the whole Lauren thing. KSU played great, and I won't take anything away from them, but this has been a different team the last month.
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Werth with the kill set point 24-22
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Werth with another kill Huskers win Set 4 25-22
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Here we go with Set 5 - a game to 15
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2-0 KSU we need to block better
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2-1 KSU - back row hit by Morgan B
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4-2 KSU
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We are only sending 1 blocker to their hitters and we are getting burned 5-3 them
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Tied at 5
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7-5 them
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8-5 them we just are not sharp tonight and they are playing very well. We are not blocking well enough and they are winning all the points at the net.
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Big comeback needed!
Your 11-0 GREEN BAY PACKERS!
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Double hit on them 8-6
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9-6 them, they are just quicker tonight.
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11-8 KSU
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10-8
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Timeout 11-8 puddy cats
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We're down in the 5th set?
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Yes 12 to 8, cook just took his second timeout.
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12-9 on a Mancuso kill
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12-10 Wilberger gets the kill
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13-11 them - Werth with the kill
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WE are in the net 14-11 them - Match point
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15-11 Them Season over
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Crap. Just didn't peak at the right time. Wonder just how much the "distraction" played a part. Great season. Great team. Next year ladies.
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Just were slow tonight and didn't block well.
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Let me be the first to state the obvious: what an effing monumental disaster.
The team was ranked in the top three for most of the season, then the coach's little princess ran somebody over with her car, and the season went down the sh!tter.
I have to be honest with you, I'm not going to miss Coach Cook's annual chokes in the tournament when he finally leaves. The team should have been in the Final Four for sure.
Massive freaking choke. In my opinion, Coach's Little Princess should take her hit and run action elsewhere.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 03, 2011, 08:11:20 AM
Am I correct in that assessment?
Does Cornhole roid up their V-ball players as well?
Post by: ednksu on December 03, 2011, 06:39:26 PM
I only really pay attention to the K-State V-Ball team, so I was "surprised" while doing a little reading out there on that Internet to discover that the Cornhole V-Ball coach is quite possibly kind of a douche.yeah their coach is a d-bag. Tried to start a fight with U of Washington's coach who use to be our coach (Jim McLaughlin), because of a controversial call.
Am I correct in that assessment?
Does Cornhole roid up their V-ball players as well?
Post by: Spaces on December 05, 2011, 01:01:31 PM
:emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid:
Post by: fun muffin on December 09, 2011, 09:06:49 PM
NOW
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Post by: 0.42 on December 13, 2011, 05:17:14 AM
that NU win was legendary. A shame people it doesn't resonate w/the average fan.
it resonated with me, fatty :emawkid:
Post by: Saulbadguy on December 13, 2011, 12:19:26 PM
that NU win was legendary. A shame people it doesn't resonate w/the average fan.i talked lots of crap about it. Got in some NU fans faces.
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then the coach's little princess ran somebody over with her car, and the season went down the sh!tter.
song as old as rhyme
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that's great news salcat
+1
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Post by: SdK on February 09, 2012, 05:09:45 PM
Does any still use that phrase? My first time!
Post by: felix rex on February 09, 2012, 08:32:53 PM
That was a tall boot showdown.
Oh man. Volleyball girls. :love:
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 06, 2012, 01:27:46 AM
And not to get gpcy, but the girls are cute too. I was walking behind two of them this afternoon and :eek:
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Post by: Stevesie60 on September 06, 2012, 09:33:55 AM
And not to get gpcy, but the girls are cute too. I was walking behind two of them this afternoon and :eek:
Wait, I thought you said you weren't going to get gpcy?
Post by: 8manpick on September 06, 2012, 09:36:02 AM
And not to get gpcy, but the girls are cute too.
Wait, I thought you said you weren't going to get gpcy?
There... Not so gpcy
Post by: 8manpick on September 06, 2012, 09:37:00 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 06, 2012, 09:48:05 AM
Post by: jtksu on September 06, 2012, 10:52:38 AM
Post by: steve dave on September 06, 2012, 10:54:03 AM
If youre a current student, there's nohing gpcy about ogling some volleyball chicks.
if that's the reason you are going to the games then there certainly is
Post by: felix rex on September 06, 2012, 10:56:48 AM
Quotethen the coach's little princess ran somebody over with her car, and the season went down the sh!tter.
song as old as rhyme
This remains one of my fave own-posts.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 06, 2012, 03:04:28 PM
If youre a current student, there's nohing gpcy about ogling some volleyball chicks.
if that's the reason you are going to the games then there certainly is
it's not.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 06, 2012, 03:06:12 PM
This Saturday evening at 6PM should work great for everyone! :thumbsup:
Bachelor party on saturday, i WILL be getting gpcy. :peek:
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 07, 2012, 07:44:51 AM
This Saturday evening at 6PM should work great for everyone! :thumbsup:Not a fan of that start time. I thought they should have moved it closer to the end of the football game.
Post by: kstater on September 14, 2012, 07:20:12 PM
we're good, but we haven't played anyone with a pulse yet
Beat #10 Minnesota
11-0 now. :emawkid:
Post by: kim carnes on September 14, 2012, 07:42:16 PM
we're good, but we haven't played anyone with a pulse yet
Beat #10 Minnesota
11-0 now. :emawkid:
:surprised: we're going places
Post by: MakeItRain on September 15, 2012, 09:29:16 AM
Post by: mancattanite on September 15, 2012, 12:02:41 PM
I think we might be good.
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 15, 2012, 12:33:37 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 15, 2012, 12:37:49 PM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 17, 2012, 11:02:22 AM
8MP lets go to a game, ok? ok
:dubious:
Post by: 8manpick on September 17, 2012, 11:20:19 AM
8MP lets go to a game, ok? ok
Ok
Post by: Stevesie60 on September 17, 2012, 01:01:13 PM
Post by: hemmy on September 17, 2012, 01:08:46 PM
Only K-State and Oregon are undefeated in volleyball AND football this year!!!
sister school
Post by: wazucat on September 18, 2012, 07:04:44 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 18, 2012, 11:32:25 PM
Only K-State and Oregon are undefeated in volleyball AND football this year!!!
sister school
That's undefeated AND ranked. South Carolina's volleyball team is 13-0 & they've only lost 6 sets all season thus far. That's 39 sets won and only 6 lost. Not only are they not ranked, but they aren't receiving any votes. Volleyball has stupid crap like this often, I'm sure many of the voters are completely unaware that USC is undefeated.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 19, 2012, 01:32:04 AM
you know I love you mr boston lets all go get our purple pit on they play this saturday at 3 :dunno:8MP lets go to a game, ok? ok
:dubious:
:fistpump:
Post by: scottwildcat on September 19, 2012, 08:22:00 AM
Last time we won B12 V Ball, we also won B12 Football and WBB. :driving:
WOULD TAKE
Post by: steve dave on September 19, 2012, 08:23:06 AM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 19, 2012, 08:35:03 AM
so apparently ISU fans stormed the court (court?) after beating NU the other day. now officially the "weird" fanbase in the confy after aTm's departure.MIR is so gonna beat you up
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 19, 2012, 08:37:57 AM
you know I love you mr boston lets all go get our purple pit on they play this saturday at 3 :dunno:8MP lets go to a game, ok? ok
:dubious:
:fistpump:
Thought I heard on the radio this morning the game is at 7 or so. I will be in KC and also the SnyderCats play. Next home game!
Post by: SleepFighter on September 19, 2012, 10:46:31 AM
so apparently ISU fans stormed the court (court?) after beating NU the other day.
That sounds like a ridiculous amount of fun.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 19, 2012, 11:06:21 AM
so apparently ISU fans stormed the court (court?) after beating NU the other day. now officially the "weird" fanbase in the confy after aTm's departure.MIR is so gonna beat you up
Yeah Nebraska was #1 in the country and it was the first time ISU had ever beat NU in Ames. Is court storming only for boy sports? Seems this was a very appropriate court storming.
Post by: 3maw on September 19, 2012, 12:57:06 PM
it's hard to not have mob mentality when you're around nubb anything, really. completely understandable. go spikeclones :party:so apparently ISU fans stormed the court (court?) after beating NU the other day. now officially the "weird" fanbase in the confy after aTm's departure.MIR is so gonna beat you up
Yeah Nebraska was #1 in the country and it was the first time ISU had ever beat NU in Ames. Is court storming only for boy sports? Seems this was a very appropriate court storming.
Post by: Spaces on September 20, 2012, 01:22:09 AM
swept by OU
Post by: MakeItRain on September 20, 2012, 02:46:43 AM
I come home from Pak'n with some elites, fire up the HD DVR and was subjected to that :barf: Terrible defense, no creativity on offense mainly due to the awful passing, looked a step slow, poor officiating, & the worst part about it was listening to the rough ridin' moron OU TV guys who didn't know crap about volleyball, & despite it being in HD the production of the broadcast was an abortion to sport (Currie, Learfield, FSKC IDGAF get your crap together). They had two.different interviews during the broadcast one with Andrew Fitzgerald and another with Kenny Stills (sidebar, is every athlete at OU some kind of human mutation, eff they all resemble something you'd see in a haunted house) in both of these interviews they completely ignored the play on the court missing multiple points showing these rough ridin' thriller extras.
God I'm so pissed, eff OU.
Post by: scottwildcat on September 20, 2012, 08:11:53 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 20, 2012, 10:26:27 AM
:frown: so much for the Big 12 title
I wouldn't go that far. I was pissed about how poor we looked but OU is the 4th best team in the conference, we're not talking about a loss to West Virginia. Pro tip, they suck.
Post by: ednksu on September 26, 2012, 12:12:25 AM
Post by: jtksu on September 26, 2012, 02:53:41 PM
Post by: Winters on September 26, 2012, 07:02:18 PM
WVU coming to town Thursday night. As some k-state0 sports casters would say, the tilt will be at 7pm.I'll try to go to that. For sure will go to the ISU game.
Post by: pissclams on September 27, 2012, 09:30:08 AM
:dance: :party:
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2012, 10:37:12 AM
:frown: so much for the Big 12 title
I wouldn't go that far. I was pissed about how poor we looked but OU is the 4th best team in the conference, we're not talking about a loss to West Virginia. Pro tip, they suck.
Iowa State, who was picked 2nd in the conference, lost to KU last night.
Post by: ednksu on September 27, 2012, 06:28:34 PM
thx wints, grabs some pics pls and post them in this thread. the sexier the better :fatty:kinda gopofitzy0 right?
:dance: :party:
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 27, 2012, 07:09:38 PM
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 27, 2012, 07:20:52 PM
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 27, 2012, 07:25:34 PM
Pelger
:horrorsurprise:
25-8 :lol:
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 27, 2012, 07:49:54 PM
Post by: ednksu on September 27, 2012, 08:37:27 PM
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974595.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974697.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974579.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974682.jpeg)
Post by: pissclams on September 27, 2012, 08:46:21 PM
holy crap we have some really talented girls
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974595.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974697.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974579.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974682.jpeg)
daddy likey!
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2012, 08:47:32 PM
Post by: ednksu on September 27, 2012, 08:50:35 PM
unfortunately, Ed is a good percentage of women's volleyball fans:confused:
Post by: ednksu on September 27, 2012, 09:05:00 PM
Post by: Winters on September 27, 2012, 09:16:35 PM
Post by: ednksu on September 27, 2012, 09:18:58 PM
I think West Virginia is terrible. Good sweep tonight. (i think)where did you sit?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 27, 2012, 09:22:37 PM
Post by: pissclams on September 27, 2012, 10:01:37 PM
Post by: Winters on September 27, 2012, 10:10:24 PM
We got there pretty late. We sat in upper west side.I think West Virginia is terrible. Good sweep tonight. (i think)where did you sit?
Post by: Winters on September 27, 2012, 10:10:48 PM
crap, kkk 8mp stevesie etc. farmageddon is next wednesday? ehhFree shirts! I'll be there.
Post by: ednksu on September 27, 2012, 10:13:18 PM
OT: can someone tell me how to save pictures to my hard drive?treat our young ladies with some respect :curse:
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2012, 10:49:07 PM
crap, kkk 8mp stevesie etc. farmageddon is next wednesday? ehhFree shirts! I'll be there.
there was free socks tonight. almost went to get some sweet retro socks.
Post by: hemmy on September 27, 2012, 10:52:22 PM
Post by: pissclams on September 28, 2012, 08:39:17 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 28, 2012, 08:47:39 AM
holy crap we have some really talented girls:drool:
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974595.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974697.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974579.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974682.jpeg)
Post by: pissclams on September 28, 2012, 09:44:03 AM
holy crap we have some really talented girls:drool:
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974595.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974697.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974579.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974682.jpeg)
i wish there was a craiglist section just for our girls volleyball players (http://imageshack.us/a/img10/8894/droolxx.gif)
Post by: MakeItRain on September 28, 2012, 10:31:03 AM
well instead of waiting for SD to respond (probably abusing himself right now) I have to say I was very impressed with the hitting, particularly the swing hit setups. Setting has been fan-freaking-tastic. Team looks much more atheltic/fit this year. Blocking was pretty damn good. Loved Donaghue's touches over the lazy block off the fake sets, I think 2 worked, 1 bearly out.
with all due respect, stop. Keep going to matches though.
Next week is the biggest week of regular season matches in Kansas State Volleyball history, hope there's huge crowds at Ahearn. And yes WVU sucks, easily the worst team in the conference.
Post by: ednksu on September 28, 2012, 10:35:10 AM
right.......well instead of waiting for SD to respond (probably abusing himself right now) I have to say I was very impressed with the hitting, particularly the swing hit setups. Setting has been fan-freaking-tastic. Team looks much more atheltic/fit this year. Blocking was pretty damn good. Loved Donaghue's touches over the lazy block off the fake sets, I think 2 worked, 1 bearly out.
with all due respect, stop. Keep going to matches though.
Next week is the biggest week of regular season matches in Kansas State Volleyball history, hope there's huge crowds at Ahearn. And yes WVU sucks, easily the worst team in the conference.
not sure what your beef is
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 28, 2012, 12:35:49 PM
:thumbs:holy crap we have some really talented girls:drool:
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974595.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974697.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974579.jpeg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/w-volley/auto_headshot/7974682.jpeg)
i wish there was a craiglist section just for our girls volleyball players (http://imageshack.us/a/img10/8894/droolxx.gif)
Post by: 8manpick on September 28, 2012, 12:42:54 PM
crap, kkk 8mp stevesie etc. farmageddon is next wednesday? ehh
I may be able to come late... rugby practice and stuff
Post by: ednksu on September 28, 2012, 06:22:12 PM
2012 numbers/2011 season ending numbers
Hit % 272 /218
Assists 13.39/12.63
Op Hit % 153/207
Block 281/243
Kills 14.14/13.53
Dig 14.33/15.28
and aces are up. So yeah I see this team, even though there are a lot of the same faces, as being much better so far. Now legit issues can be asked about competition level.
Anyone know where I can find service errors? I don't see them in the big 12 stats.
Post by: ednksu on October 03, 2012, 02:30:29 AM
anyone going tonight?
Post by: mancattanite on October 03, 2012, 11:49:27 AM
swept Baylor
anyone going tonight?
Going to be the biggest game so far. Trying to make it.
Post by: mancattanite on October 03, 2012, 12:04:51 PM
Average: 1626
High: UC Irvine (2715)
Low: Oakland (989)
Last year's average attendance was 1520 for 13 games, ranking 24th in the nation. On last year's list, 1626 would put us at 22, but I think attendance usually gets a bump during the conference schedule.
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/wis/sports/w-volley/auto_pdf/2011-12/misc_non_event/Attendance.pdf
Post by: Winters on October 03, 2012, 03:41:15 PM
swept BaylorDo you want to sit together ednksu? :D
anyone going tonight?
Post by: star seed 7 on October 03, 2012, 04:29:16 PM
Post by: Winters on October 03, 2012, 05:03:38 PM
:peek:We'll see you there seven.
Post by: ednksu on October 03, 2012, 06:27:44 PM
I might have to go alone being that the miss is not feeling well. Maybe I'll do my best Fitz and act a creeper.swept BaylorDo you want to sit together ednksu? :D
anyone going tonight?
Post by: kstater on October 03, 2012, 07:26:36 PM
Post by: kstater on October 03, 2012, 07:31:14 PM
Post by: kstater on October 03, 2012, 07:45:27 PM
Post by: ednksu on October 03, 2012, 07:48:50 PM
Post by: kstater on October 03, 2012, 07:51:24 PM
you guys got this on TV?
FCS
Post by: ednksu on October 03, 2012, 07:52:34 PM
you on Cox kansas? It seems to be some big 10 game or something....you guys got this on TV?
FCS
maybe I've gone channel Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)...
Post by: ednksu on October 03, 2012, 07:54:59 PM
non HD :curse:
Post by: kstater on October 03, 2012, 07:56:20 PM
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 03, 2012, 07:57:37 PM
Post by: ednksu on October 03, 2012, 07:58:25 PM
winters must be fist pumping all over the place after that
Post by: Winters on October 03, 2012, 09:05:01 PM
nice comeback, ebb and comeback againI was pretty pumped!
winters must be fist pumping all over the place after that
Post by: ednksu on October 03, 2012, 09:46:06 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 06, 2012, 05:34:02 PM
Post by: hemmy on October 06, 2012, 10:02:14 PM
Post by: mancattanite on October 06, 2012, 11:25:17 PM
They should still do very, very well in the Big 12. Still psyched for the rest of the season. :emawkid:
Post by: ednksu on October 07, 2012, 01:54:02 AM
Post by: scottwildcat on October 07, 2012, 06:01:15 PM
Post by: CNS on October 08, 2012, 05:24:12 PM
WTF?
Post by: MakeItRain on October 08, 2012, 11:20:57 PM
Are we ever going to be on tv again? My TiVo says "no".
WTF?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0)
Post by: pissclams on October 10, 2012, 08:51:41 AM
Are we ever going to be on tv again? My TiVo says "no".
WTF?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0)
have you asked currie? just wondering what his official line on all of it is.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 10, 2012, 02:17:57 PM
Are we ever going to be on tv again? My TiVo says "no".
WTF?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0)
have you asked currie? just wondering what his official line on all of it is.
Why would I? It's not like I would get a tangible answer. When he strikes a deal it will certainly be mentioned in his weekly email and/or a press release.
Post by: pissclams on October 11, 2012, 07:47:05 AM
Are we ever going to be on tv again? My TiVo says "no".
WTF?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.0)
have you asked currie? just wondering what his official line on all of it is.
Why would I? It's not like I would get a tangible answer. When he strikes a deal it will certainly be mentioned in his weekly email and/or a press release.
why would you? probably the same reason you keep asking here. (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22395.175)
Post by: ednksu on October 13, 2012, 11:48:01 PM
Post by: jtksu on October 13, 2012, 11:48:55 PM
need a broom emoticon
Would it be a good thing here?
Post by: MakeItRain on October 14, 2012, 07:32:48 PM
need a broom emoticon
Would it be a good thing here?
we beat TCU in 3 sets last night, but to answer your question it would be irrelevant here. Good teams beat shitty teams in 3, its expected.
Post by: ednksu on October 15, 2012, 03:00:46 AM
but we lost to OU and UT (at home no less) in straight sets.......philosoraptor asks you square that circleneed a broom emoticon
Would it be a good thing here?
we beat TCU in 3 sets last night, but to answer your question it would be irrelevant here. Good teams beat shitty teams in 3, its expected.
Post by: ednksu on October 17, 2012, 07:37:01 PM
Post by: ednksu on October 17, 2012, 08:36:24 PM
the block was rough ridin' worthless all night
hitting was atrocious, completely lack of court awareness, complete lack of innovation. KU could return the majority of our hits with one player on the court.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 17, 2012, 09:50:48 PM
what a rough ridin' embarrassment
the block was rough ridin' worthless all night
hitting was atrocious, completely lack of court awareness, complete lack of innovation. KU could return the majority of our hits with one player on the court.
Yeah that's a passing issue not a hitting issue, the defense was bad. If you don't pass you are hitting 4 balls all night long.
Post by: ednksu on October 17, 2012, 10:25:42 PM
yeah I was discussing the hitting in relation to passing with my GF who has a higher vbiq than me. She did note that there were many passes which left Donahue searching for any kind of a way to get it to a hitter.what a rough ridin' embarrassment
the block was rough ridin' worthless all night
hitting was atrocious, completely lack of court awareness, complete lack of innovation. KU could return the majority of our hits with one player on the court.
Yeah that's a passing issue not a hitting issue, the defense was bad. If you don't pass you are hitting 4 balls all night long.
But the hitting when good sets were in place were unimaginative and predictable. There were honestly series in the 2nd and 4th sets where KU could have had one player on the court to dig the hit. Same spot, just awful.
Did you see Donahue's great backwards tip set in the 2nd? Pure genius.
I really don't know how Porubek is seeing all that much time. Very lazy play from here tonight. Poor footwork getting to places, reaching way too much, poor service.
Post by: 0.42 on October 18, 2012, 12:43:28 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 18, 2012, 04:48:24 PM
yeah I was discussing the hitting in relation to passing with my GF who has a higher vbiq than me. She did note that there were many passes which left Donahue searching for any kind of a way to get it to a hitter.what a rough ridin' embarrassment
the block was rough ridin' worthless all night
hitting was atrocious, completely lack of court awareness, complete lack of innovation. KU could return the majority of our hits with one player on the court.
Yeah that's a passing issue not a hitting issue, the defense was bad. If you don't pass you are hitting 4 balls all night long.
But the hitting when good sets were in place were unimaginative and predictable. There were honestly series in the 2nd and 4th sets where KU could have had one player on the court to dig the hit. Same spot, just awful.
Did you see Donahue's great backwards tip set in the 2nd? Pure genius.
I really don't know how Porubek is seeing all that much time. Very lazy play from here tonight. Poor footwork getting to places, reaching way too much, poor service.
Some of that KU defense is attributable to scouting. Bechard is Fritz's mentor, he's well aware of what we run because he taught her. They have always played us tough relative to their inferior talent. The defense, if played well can force hitters to hit at certain spots at that point its up to one or two back row players, depending on where you're attempting to force outside hitters to defend that place, somedays are better than others. I haven't seen KU outside ood our match to know how they are defending but I'm guessing that they are aggressively blocking line while fanning the other front row player wide & short leaving 2 back row players to defend a lot of court playing the angle off of the middle blocker.
The best way to beat this defense is to feed the middle quicks so that the blockers have to hesitate when going outside. When your passing is trash your hitting is predictable and blockers can force you to hit to the middle of the floor.
BTW Lila is our second best hitter, I love her one of my favorite players ever. Her issue isn't laziness its frankly her fitness or lack thereof.
Post by: ednksu on October 20, 2012, 11:18:05 PM
3-2 over Yosemite Sam Aggie
Post by: MakeItRain on October 21, 2012, 08:24:01 PM
Post by: mancattanite on October 21, 2012, 08:37:07 PM
They are really scuffling right now, better turn it around quickly.
Playing WVU next, should be a good game to get back on track with :thumbs:
Post by: ednksu on October 24, 2012, 11:47:29 PM
http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/w-volley/recaps/102412aaa.html
Porubek had her head nearer where the sun was shining
more importantly the block sucked less and hitting was better
Post by: ednksu on October 27, 2012, 07:55:56 PM
Post by: ednksu on October 27, 2012, 09:11:35 PM
4th set wasn't bad, never quite put them away like we could have.
Winters or MiR make it over?
Post by: jtksu on November 07, 2012, 01:09:05 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 07, 2012, 06:07:09 PM
Post by: Winters on November 07, 2012, 08:29:55 PM
choppy 3rd set that we dropped, people trying to do too much.I did not.
4th set wasn't bad, never quite put them away like we could have.
Winters or MiR make it over?
Post by: kim carnes on November 07, 2012, 08:57:41 PM
Post by: pissclams on November 07, 2012, 09:05:39 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 07, 2012, 09:14:16 PM
losers
Football school
Post by: ednksu on November 07, 2012, 09:16:21 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 08, 2012, 12:05:26 PM
currently in meltdown mode about Fritz. Same crap different match. Absolutely horrid game plan going into this match up. KU knew exactly where all our hitters were going, I swear I could put a X on the court and the vast majority of hits would be on it. (x would not be the entire court :dubious:) I have to also believe the number of tip overs instead of hits had to be game plan related. No way were all those the result of adjustments to poor service (which Donahue very rarely does anyway).
jesus christ, guy
Post by: ednksu on November 08, 2012, 07:24:54 PM
currently in meltdown mode about Fritz. Same crap different match. Absolutely horrid game plan going into this match up. KU knew exactly where all our hitters were going, I swear I could put a X on the court and the vast majority of hits would be on it. (x would not be the entire court :dubious:) I have to also believe the number of tip overs instead of hits had to be game plan related. No way were all those the result of adjustments to poor service (which Donahue very rarely does anyway).
jesus christ, guy
Stepping back from the keyboard for a bit has let me consider somethings, just like last season, still don't think Fritz is right.
Hitting is atrocious. I really should find some way to review footage, but last night and all the other games I've been to let me believe that they are trained to hit to a location on the court way too much. When KU is able to position one player to dig a lot of hits with multiple rotations, the proof is there. Our hitters are dynamic and athletic enough to do something else, save Porubek who require a perfect set to get a decent hit and than it is going to the same spot almost every time.
Too many of last nights failures rest on Fritz's game plan. There is no way the number of tip overs while in hitting position wasn't game plan related. It caught KU a few times, but more often than not, they had the short play covered behind the block. Another game plan issue or game prep issue was the block. Absolutely horrid last night. They were constantly biting on the fake to one hitter only to have it go to a secondary hitter who was in better position. The block was CONSTANTLY off on timing. That level of failure at this level of play has to be game planning, thinking KU was playing fast to first hitters. Not only that there were so many opportuntiies for in game adjustment here. We had too many net calls from poor positioning and way too many KU rallies which were not stemmed by timeouts. I can think of one time we scored coming out of the time out, the rest of the time out were slight interruptions to KU's charge.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 08, 2012, 09:20:18 PM
currently in meltdown mode about Fritz. Same crap different match. Absolutely horrid game plan going into this match up. KU knew exactly where all our hitters were going, I swear I could put a X on the court and the vast majority of hits would be on it. (x would not be the entire court :dubious:) I have to also believe the number of tip overs instead of hits had to be game plan related. No way were all those the result of adjustments to poor service (which Donahue very rarely does anyway).
jesus christ, guy
Stepping back from the keyboard for a bit has let me consider somethings, just like last season, still don't think Fritz is right.
Hitting is atrocious. I really should find some way to review footage, but last night and all the other games I've been to let me believe that they are trained to hit to a location on the court way too much. When KU is able to position one player to dig a lot of hits with multiple rotations, the proof is there. Our hitters are dynamic and athletic enough to do something else, save Porubek who require a perfect set to get a decent hit and than it is going to the same spot almost every time.
Too many of last nights failures rest on Fritz's game plan. There is no way the number of tip overs while in hitting position wasn't game plan related. It caught KU a few times, but more often than not, they had the short play covered behind the block. Another game plan issue or game prep issue was the block. Absolutely horrid last night. They were constantly biting on the fake to one hitter only to have it go to a secondary hitter who was in better position. The block was CONSTANTLY off on timing. That level of failure at this level of play has to be game planning, thinking KU was playing fast to first hitters. Not only that there were so many opportuntiies for in game adjustment here. We had too many net calls from poor positioning and way too many KU rallies which were not stemmed by timeouts. I can think of one time we scored coming out of the time out, the rest of the time out were slight interruptions to KU's charge.
I've played and coached volleyball for 20 years. If I could #humblebrag for a second I have had personal coaching instruction from Dr. Carl McGown, Dr. Doug Beal, Dr. Marv Dunphy, Jim McLaughlin and Hugh McCutcheon. This is absurd. It's opinion so I can't say you're wrong but the flawed logic is completely off the reservation. It's VLVBIQ dressed up as something else. I explained this after your last meltdown, either you didn't read it or didn't understand it. You are completely barking up the wrong tree here.
Post by: ednksu on November 08, 2012, 10:57:26 PM
yeah I was discussing the hitting in relation to passing with my GF who has a higher vbiq than me. She did note that there were many passes which left Donahue searching for any kind of a way to get it to a hitter.what a rough ridin' embarrassment
the block was rough ridin' worthless all night
hitting was atrocious, completely lack of court awareness, complete lack of innovation. KU could return the majority of our hits with one player on the court.
Yeah that's a passing issue not a hitting issue, the defense was bad. If you don't pass you are hitting 4 balls all night long.
But the hitting when good sets were in place were unimaginative and predictable. There were honestly series in the 2nd and 4th sets where KU could have had one player on the court to dig the hit. Same spot, just awful.
Did you see Donahue's great backwards tip set in the 2nd? Pure genius.
I really don't know how Porubek is seeing all that much time. Very lazy play from here tonight. Poor footwork getting to places, reaching way too much, poor service.
Some of that KU defense is attributable to scouting. Bechard is Fritz's mentor, he's well aware of what we run because he taught her. They have always played us tough relative to their inferior talent. The defense, if played well can force hitters to hit at certain spots at that point its up to one or two back row players, depending on where you're attempting to force outside hitters to defend that place, somedays are better than others. I haven't seen KU outside ood our match to know how they are defending but I'm guessing that they are aggressively blocking line while fanning the other front row player wide & short leaving 2 back row players to defend a lot of court playing the angle off of the middle blocker.
The best way to beat this defense is to feed the middle quicks so that the blockers have to hesitate when going outside. When your passing is trash your hitting is predictable and blockers can force you to hit to the middle of the floor.
BTW Lila is our second best hitter, I love her one of my favorite players ever. Her issue isn't laziness its frankly her fitness or lack thereof.
this is your post from before and it in NO way corrects my position but instead adds more credibility to it.
Your point about passing was valid once again. They were consistently giving Donahue crap to work with. Yet we had the MOST tip overs in our KU match compared to the rest of the season. It was so painfully obvious that this was a game plan decision and not targets of opportunity. When taking actual hits instead of tips, k-state was consistently slow to hit, often times going to the exact opposite of setting middle, instead opting for outside cross shots which were only targeted to one spot on the court. That is why KU was able to cover the entire back half of the court with 2 freaking players. When spray and pray Porubek is able to find the court by hitting down line and no one else consistently tries, there is an issue. Their down line coverage wasn't there for the majority of the night. They knew they could tuck in tight and block down and leave obvious lanes open because we will only hit to a few spots on the court. There was no attempt to keep them honest by going line, aside from a few times Porubek diverted from the game plan. I will say that, and I believe it was in the 3rd set, they did attempt to hit line off broken plays and KU did a great job of moving their block over forcing us into errors/hits OOB, but it was completely abandoned otherwise. Now I do agree that passing is killing our offense, forcing Donahue to come up with some absolute miracle sets in order to have some sort of play. Bad passing is square one forcing us to do certain things. But I also believe from a game plan standpoint middle hitting is not a priority from watching where good sets are going. Some of that might be due to passing, some of it might be due to risk/reward analysis in the face of bad passing, but a lot of it seems to be directed action (Porubek being set 3 times in a row for the same hit every time).
I would also love to hear something about our block. We were constantly sending 2 and 3 players up with little to no timing, biting on first action when it was painfully obvious KU was using a feint action designed to confuse the block. When 3 girls are consistently going up they should be able to get a piece, they consistently were not. I don't know if we're not athletic or hvbiq enough to run the swing block they way it needs to be done, but it isn't work at all when inferior team are having a field day with the defense.
And if you were really trained by Mclaughlin I don't see how you can agree with Fritz's service philosophy either. Telling people that errors are acceptable is not okay.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 09, 2012, 12:03:44 AM
Now as to the body of what you're talking about, you kind of answered your own question. If they aren't passing they aren't hitting. Also everyone defends with two in the back. You may have one rotation where you can play three back. Now did Fritz or Grove see something in the video to let them know that the tip was there at certain times, maybe, sure, I guess. However, if they did you as a player have to execute. Whether the defense knows its coming or not a well executed tip, like a bunt in baseball, is impossible to defend. This is the same with finding the right spots when you swing. You as a hitter need to find the places to hit but you can't tip the swing with your shoulders too early. I have no idea what happened last night, I'd need to see the coaches film to see what went wrong, although it is pretty easy watching the broadcast to delineate that KU is better than I'd this year. In summary to this point, you cannot blame Fritz for her game plan, it just doesn't work in volleyball. Game planning is a really small part of developing a great team, your system is much more important. If you're going to freak out with every loss you should be effusive with every win. It's not like football where the preparation and lead up can win or lose you a game if the team's are equal. College volleyball coaches are hired to get the best players to run their system, not gameplan.
The blocking is similar. It isn't a matter of "what's wrong with the blocking" its what happened with that block. We are a good blocking team, 3rd in the conference since conference play started. If they had a bad night again I'd have to see why this block was slow, or why that block floated. We don't have a problem with blocking though, the numbers bear that out. Sometimes you have a bad night.
Post by: bones129 on November 09, 2012, 12:25:33 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 12, 2012, 04:00:27 PM
:lol:
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 12, 2012, 04:36:02 PM
currently in meltdown mode about Fritz. Same crap different match. Absolutely horrid game plan going into this match up. KU knew exactly where all our hitters were going, I swear I could put a X on the court and the vast majority of hits would be on it. (x would not be the entire court :dubious:) I have to also believe the number of tip overs instead of hits had to be game plan related. No way were all those the result of adjustments to poor service (which Donahue very rarely does anyway).
jesus christ, guy
Stepping back from the keyboard for a bit has let me consider somethings, just like last season, still don't think Fritz is right.
Hitting is atrocious. I really should find some way to review footage, but last night and all the other games I've been to let me believe that they are trained to hit to a location on the court way too much. When KU is able to position one player to dig a lot of hits with multiple rotations, the proof is there. Our hitters are dynamic and athletic enough to do something else, save Porubek who require a perfect set to get a decent hit and than it is going to the same spot almost every time.
Too many of last nights failures rest on Fritz's game plan. There is no way the number of tip overs while in hitting position wasn't game plan related. It caught KU a few times, but more often than not, they had the short play covered behind the block. Another game plan issue or game prep issue was the block. Absolutely horrid last night. They were constantly biting on the fake to one hitter only to have it go to a secondary hitter who was in better position. The block was CONSTANTLY off on timing. That level of failure at this level of play has to be game planning, thinking KU was playing fast to first hitters. Not only that there were so many opportuntiies for in game adjustment here. We had too many net calls from poor positioning and way too many KU rallies which were not stemmed by timeouts. I can think of one time we scored coming out of the time out, the rest of the time out were slight interruptions to KU's charge.
I've played and coached volleyball for 20 years. If I could #humblebrag for a second I have had personal coaching instruction from Dr. Carl McGown, Dr. Doug Beal, Dr. Marv Dunphy, Jim McLaughlin and Hugh McCutcheon. This is absurd. It's opinion so I can't say you're wrong but the flawed logic is completely off the reservation. It's VLVBIQ dressed up as something else. I explained this after your last meltdown, either you didn't read it or didn't understand it. You are completely barking up the wrong tree here.
:eek:
Post by: MakeItRain on November 12, 2012, 05:12:35 PM
Post by: mancattanite on November 12, 2012, 06:32:54 PM
http://deadspin.com/5959549/girl-takes-volleyball-spike-off-the-face-ricochet-takes-out-spectator (http://deadspin.com/5959549/girl-takes-volleyball-spike-off-the-face-ricochet-takes-out-spectator)
:lol:
Go and sign her up, Fritz!
:bracketmouse: (except a volleyball and NLI papers)
Post by: joda on November 12, 2012, 09:57:02 PM
http://deadspin.com/5959549/girl-takes-volleyball-spike-off-the-face-ricochet-takes-out-spectator (http://deadspin.com/5959549/girl-takes-volleyball-spike-off-the-face-ricochet-takes-out-spectator)
:lol:
Way back in my freshman year in college I dated a girl who played juco volleyball. When I was watching one of her games one of line judges tried to run away from an errant spike and when it pegged her in the side of the head she actually went sideways in the air. Was hilarious.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 25, 2012, 08:39:23 PM
Grats to KU hosting for the first time ever :tsc: potential second round matchup with the Wheat Shockers.
Post by: bones129 on November 25, 2012, 11:52:42 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 26, 2012, 09:44:19 AM
I don't know, it just seems like the glass ceiling has been hit, albeit the Big 12 is a pretty decent Vball conference from my observation, but would it be Top 3?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 26, 2012, 04:13:36 PM
Resident Vball experts. Is Fritz on the hot seat in any way?
I don't know, it just seems like the glass ceiling has been hit, albeit the Big 12 is a pretty decent Vball conference from my observation, but would it be Top 3?
LOL no. If she has hit her ceiling its a pretty high ceiling. The NCAA tournament 9 out of 12 years is good for any sport, its great for a non-revenue sport at K-State. We've been top 25 in attendance most years, if not every single year she's been here. I don't possibly know how anyone would expect better and know you'd get it by replacing the coach.
Also the Big 12 for the last decade has been at worst the third best conference in any given year, some times first, some times second. This year we have 3 top 16 teams, including Kansas for the first time. Trading Nebraska, Colorado, Mizzou, and A&M for TCU and WVU hurt, a lot. As Nebraska and A&M are power programs, both top 16 this season, and Mizzou and Colorado have had decent successes; TCU and WVU are horrendous programs.
Side note K-State has had unreal luck with the last three volleyball coaches, Jim Moore, Jim McLaughlin, and Suzie Fritz are all phenomenal coaches. Moore & McLaughlin have had great success after they left K-State for bigger budget programs.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 26, 2012, 05:14:15 PM
So, keep expectations to NCAA tourney appearences. Don't expect conference championship trophies, and pretty much don't expect any national titles.
A nice little program. Fair enough.
Thks
Post by: jtksu on November 26, 2012, 05:48:53 PM
Going back to Lincoln afuckingain to play UNI in the first round. Third time to Nubb in last 4 tourney trips. The selection committee blows.
Grats to KU hosting for the first time ever :tsc: potential second round matchup with the Wheat Shockers.
Was WSU qualifying as an at-large a bit of a suprise? Seems like the local media made it seem as if winning the tournament was their only shot... Then again, I haven't followed the team as closely this year as I had previously.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2012, 06:33:07 PM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones link=topic=15182.msg678315#msg678315=1353971655
Okay.
So, keeping expectations to NCAA tourney appearences. Don't expect conference championship trophies and pretty much don't expect any national titles.
A nice little program. Fair enough.
Thks
In non revenue sports if you want national titles and conference championships you have to spend accordingly. Are you proposing that K-State utilize the resources that Nebraska, Florida, Texas, UT, etc. has? You look at DOE equity reports, certainly you are aware of the correlation of Olympic sports spending and success. There's no coach em up DITRs in womens sports, I cant recall even once in volleyball & WBB where the best talent didnt win.
If you fire coaches that make the tournament 9 out of 12 years, consistently be in the top 25 in attendance, win a conference title every decade or so, and have a top 20 program your're more likely to find someone who will fall on their face than someone who will duplicate that.
If you're unhappy with the direction of the program I'd suggest you pony up the cash to level the playing field and make this job more attractive to one of the other top 20 coaches, other than the one we have.
Fantastic troll though
Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2012, 06:54:47 PM
Going back to Lincoln afuckingain to play UNI in the first round. Third time to Nubb in last 4 tourney trips. The selection committee blows.
Grats to KU hosting for the first time ever :tsc: potential second round matchup with the Wheat Shockers.
Was WSU qualifying as an at-large a bit of a suprise? Seems like the local media made it seem as if winning the tournament was their only shot... Then again, I haven't followed the team as closely this year as I had previously.
By local media I'm going to assume you mean oscar Haertl. I give him credit for being the only local guy who even attempts to talk volleyball, although his interest is more about WSU homerism. That being said he doesn't anything about volleyball at all. WSU was on the bubble, but fairly strong on the right side. Their RPI was 40, thats pretty safe in volleyball because many conference don't have post season tournaments so there isn't bid stealing like in basketball. The selection committee uses RPI heavily in volleyball & are pretty open about it.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 29, 2012, 05:12:02 PM
Post by: ednksu on November 29, 2012, 05:23:24 PM
Post by: ednksu on November 29, 2012, 05:57:17 PM
13-17 service error rally killed
19-21 service error rally killed
20-23 terrible blocking working inside to out on an outside hitter coming far from the side. ball is only going out to the side.
20-24 hit right into block because our outside hitter only go to one spot on the court. Line was open by a full blocker width.
And I really think MiR is wrong about what it takes to achieve this level of success in volleyball.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 29, 2012, 06:00:26 PM
And I really think MiR is wrong about what it takes to achieve this level of success in volleyball.
What the eff does this mean?
Post by: ednksu on November 29, 2012, 06:12:23 PM
:flush: completely awful mercy killing to end the seasonSorry I'm a bit distracted.And I really think MiR is wrong about what it takes to achieve this level of success in volleyball.
What the eff does this mean?
In your previous post you put a lot of effort in explaining to Dax the level of success Fritz has had. I'm not going to get into top tier WVB teams because the parity systems in any women's sports are so out of whack. I think to be a solid second tier team that collects a conference champ every 5 to 8 years or so requires less than you expect. I'm honestly not sure what other teams have that we don't to preface my points. We now have a dedicated facility, although its not glitzy does have some good attributes. I don't know what access the WVB team has to various training facilities. I'll assume they have the run of Ahearn? That seems like a fair enough foundation for a good second tier team. I would say there is a significant amount of coaching up players to make wins. I think your explanation of why KU is able to give us stiff competition and in this year dominate us, twice, shows this talking point is weak. Now I will grant that you can't coach em up into league titles yearly or compete with the PSUs of the WVB world consistently. Are we than talking about coach pay to retain or get the best coaches? Maybe you could speak to the pay scales here. I would suspect there is a significant gap between the first tier teams and the second tier teams. I don't know where Fritz's pay would fit into that hierarchy.
Anyways, just some thoughts. As you put it, a fine mercy killing for this season.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 29, 2012, 07:09:53 PM
We should expect more than that embarrassment this afternoon.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 29, 2012, 08:44:23 PM
Quote
author=ednksu link=topic=15182.msg680807#msg680807 date=1354234343]:flush: completely awful mercy killing to end the seasonSorry I'm a bit distracted.And I really think MiR is wrong about what it takes to achieve this level of success in volleyball.
What the eff does this mean?
In your previous post you put a lot of effort in explaining to Dax the level of success Fritz has had. I'm not going to get into top tier WVB teams because the parity systems in any women's sports are so out of whack. I think to be a solid second tier team that collects a conference champ every 5 to 8 years or so requires less than you expect. I'm honestly not sure what other teams have that we don't to preface my points. We now have a dedicated facility, although its not glitzy does have some good attributes. I don't know what access the WVB team has to various training facilities. I'll assume they have the run of Ahearn? That seems like a fair enough foundation for a good second tier team. I would say there is a significant amount of coaching up players to make wins. I think your explanation of why KU is able to give us stiff competition and in this year dominate us, twice, shows this talking point is weak. Now I will grant that you can't coach em up into league titles yearly or compete with the PSUs of the WVB world consistently. Are we than talking about coach pay to retain or get the best coaches? Maybe you could speak to the pay scales here. I would suspect there is a significant gap between the first tier teams and the second tier teams. I don't know where Fritz's pay would fit into that hierarchy.
Anyways, just some thoughts. As you put it, a fine mercy killing for this season.
K-State V-Ball has a nice dressing room and players lounge. There have been multiple upgrades to Ahearn: new seating, paint job, scoreboards, they got a new court a few years ago. Certainly a very fine facility for Volleyball has been created.
We should expect more than that embarrassment this afternoon.
I'll address dax' post first since it appears once again to be a troll, because frankly you are smarter than this. It is painfully obvious that you haven't seen any of the facilities you are touting. Did you seriously list a scoreboard that is more limited than some high school boards and some purple paint on red benches as improvements that should help the program? Stupid and you know it. That dressing room upgrade improved dressing rooms that were 50 years old. I've seen our facility and others. Instead of assuming that we have a "very fine facility" I'll tell you firsthand that we have an okay facility. Ahearn is good simply because of the fans and they are there because we've won consistently for 15 years.
Even if we had amazing facilities that has no correlation to on field results and you know that, absurd for you to attempt to.
Edn, there isn't a second tier program that wins the conference every 5-8 years, those are top programs. If you know of a second tier program in volleyball, let me know. I can't think of one in basketball either. We are firmly in the second tier. We have been a top 20 team for 15 years.
Money is important for not only head coaches salaries, but for assistant salaries and most importantly recruiting. Our budget is okay, we are absolutely out performing our peers in this regard.
I have no idea what you meant by your KU point. They beat us this year because they are better. I don't know what that has to do with the state of the program. Their coach, Ray Bechard, has been at KU for 15 years and this is literally the first season hes been better than KSU. You'll have to explain that analogy to me. Are you proposing we strive to their lack of long term success?
Like I said before, why would you not only fire but even consider firing someone who has consistently out performed her peers. She's fourth in the history of the conference in wins, the program is third in conference history in wins. How confident are you that someone could match that?
As far as today goes, I'd love to know what is going on behind the scenes, that completely turned this season around. We looked like final four contenders, now they are as bad as I've seen a K-State team ever. Suzie said earlier in the week that some players had some personal stuff, I know of one, but certainly it isn't causing this, I don't think. Anyway I'm glad this season is over so we can move on to spring ball & next season. Can't believe we're at this point.
Post by: pissclams on November 29, 2012, 08:53:07 PM
sorry boys
Post by: kim carnes on November 29, 2012, 09:00:55 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 29, 2012, 10:13:11 PM
Quoteauthor=ednksu link=topic=15182.msg680807#msg680807 date=1354234343]:flush: completely awful mercy killing to end the seasonSorry I'm a bit distracted.And I really think MiR is wrong about what it takes to achieve this level of success in volleyball.
What the eff does this mean?
In your previous post you put a lot of effort in explaining to Dax the level of success Fritz has had. I'm not going to get into top tier WVB teams because the parity systems in any women's sports are so out of whack. I think to be a solid second tier team that collects a conference champ every 5 to 8 years or so requires less than you expect. I'm honestly not sure what other teams have that we don't to preface my points. We now have a dedicated facility, although its not glitzy does have some good attributes. I don't know what access the WVB team has to various training facilities. I'll assume they have the run of Ahearn? That seems like a fair enough foundation for a good second tier team. I would say there is a significant amount of coaching up players to make wins. I think your explanation of why KU is able to give us stiff competition and in this year dominate us, twice, shows this talking point is weak. Now I will grant that you can't coach em up into league titles yearly or compete with the PSUs of the WVB world consistently. Are we than talking about coach pay to retain or get the best coaches? Maybe you could speak to the pay scales here. I would suspect there is a significant gap between the first tier teams and the second tier teams. I don't know where Fritz's pay would fit into that hierarchy.
Anyways, just some thoughts. As you put it, a fine mercy killing for this season.K-State V-Ball has a nice dressing room and players lounge. There have been multiple upgrades to Ahearn: new seating, paint job, scoreboards, they got a new court a few years ago. Certainly a very fine facility for Volleyball has been created.
We should expect more than that embarrassment this afternoon.
I'll address dax' post first since it appears once again to be a troll, because frankly you are smarter than this. It is painfully obvious that you haven't seen any of the facilities you are touting. Did you seriously list a scoreboard that is more limited than some high school boards and some purple paint on red benches as improvements that should help the program? Stupid and you know it. That dressing room upgrade improved dressing rooms that were 50 years old. I've seen our facility and others. Instead of assuming that we have a "very fine facility" I'll tell you firsthand that we have an okay facility. Ahearn is good simply because of the fans and they are there because we've won consistently for 15 years.
Even if we had amazing facilities that has no correlation to on field results and you know that, absurd for you to attempt to.
Edn, there isn't a second tier program that wins the conference every 5-8 years, those are top programs. If you know of a second tier program in volleyball, let me know. I can't think of one in basketball either. We are firmly in the second tier. We have been a top 20 team for 15 years.
Money is important for not only head coaches salaries, but for assistant salaries and most importantly recruiting. Our budget is okay, we are absolutely out performing our peers in this regard.
I have no idea what you meant by your KU point. They beat us this year because they are better. I don't know what that has to do with the state of the program. Their coach, Ray Bechard, has been at KU for 15 years and this is literally the first season hes been better than KSU. You'll have to explain that analogy to me. Are you proposing we strive to their lack of long term success?
Like I said before, why would you not only fire but even consider firing someone who has consistently out performed her peers. She's fourth in the history of the conference in wins, the program is third in conference history in wins. How confident are you that someone could match that?
As far as today goes, I'd love to know what is going on behind the scenes, that completely turned this season around. We looked like final four contenders, now they are as bad as I've seen a K-State team ever. Suzie said earlier in the week that some players had some personal stuff, I know of one, but certainly it isn't causing this, I don't think. Anyway I'm glad this season is over so we can move on to spring ball & next season. Can't believe we're at this point.
Excuses, excuses . . . just part of the K-State "we're just happy to be here" culture . . . and I've paid plenty of attention and I know that Ahearn is very near, or on par with a number of top volleyball facilities, and no, I don't count schools that play inside their basketball arena. Penn State has a decent volleyball gym, but it was built in 1928 and they share it with four other sports. It's not that much better than Ahearn on any level.
It's just good old K-State, never win anything significant and give it a good try and most K-Staters are perfectly happy.
Run out of the gym by not even receiving AVCA votes Northern Iowa is pathetic.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 30, 2012, 12:43:25 AM
If you ever make it back to Manhattan check out a match, enjoy that wonderful purple paint that recruits love. If you are lucky maybe you can walk on that carpet put in the locker room a few years ago, that carpet put us over the top. Its amazing how much you sound like beems talking out of your ass but too hard headed to shut the hell up.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 30, 2012, 06:03:28 AM
Drummed out of the NCAA tourney in the 1st round by Northern Iowa.
Post by: ednksu on November 30, 2012, 06:53:47 AM
~You said you can't coach em up in volleyball
~You said for years KU has been competitive with weaker talent, because their coach knew our coaches system
~Ergo in some instances you can coach them up or at least have talent play beyond their means
Post by: pissclams on November 30, 2012, 08:16:05 AM
Post by: Winters on November 30, 2012, 09:50:24 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 30, 2012, 01:23:55 PM
~You said for years KU has been competitive with weaker talent, because their coach knew our coaches system
never said that, they have been terrible forever
Post by: MakeItRain on November 30, 2012, 01:34:08 PM
The bottom line is this, significant effort has been made over the years to keep K-State Volleyball up to speed with quality facilities. I knew Ahearn prior to volleyball getting all of those improvements backwards and forwards and back again, I spent day after day after day in there. I believe Volleyball now occupies either the former men's basketball offices or the former AD's offices, which used to be the nicest offices the K-State athletics had, and I believe they've just recently been remodeled. Offices that at the time K-State volleyball moved into them, other Volleyball programs would have killed for . . . many of them occupying offices akin to broom closets. The volleyball dressing room and players lounge is multi-fold times nicer than the old K-State Mens basketball dressing room. (again, we're talking about Volleyball here, a sport that LOSES money). Offices, players lounges, dressing rooms, new courts, pay raises, increased budgets etc. etc. etc.
Drummed out of the NCAA tourney in the 1st round by Northern Iowa.
You're confusing what I bolded with the rest of your post. The things you mentioned don't "keep K-State Volleyball up to speed with quality facilities." They updated the previous horrendous facilities but in no way are they comparable with what one would call quality facilities. I've said this three times yet you continue to ignore it. I've seen other college facilities, you haven't even seen ours. I also enjoy that you continue to ignore the question that I've asked you about the risk of finding someone who will duplicate being the 4th winningest coach (2nd active) in the history of the conference.
there is no excuse for getting run out of the gym by UNI. that's an embarassment.
Anyone say otherwise? What did you guys think of UNI before the match started, just wondering?
Post by: pissclams on November 30, 2012, 01:38:23 PM
there is no excuse for getting run out of the gym by UNI. that's an embarassment.
Anyone say otherwise? What did you guys think of UNI before the match started, just wondering?
hey ralph tresvant, lay off the sensitivity. you mind if i state my opinion?
Post by: Belvis Noland on November 30, 2012, 04:41:36 PM
That said, are we arguing that KSU doesn't have the talent to be relevant in the postseason? i.e. we need better facilities to recruit better talent?
I thought Fritz always had good talent, and was consistently taking teams to the NCAAs...
So, forgive me, but why the eff are facilities even relevant to this discussion?
Post by: ednksu on November 30, 2012, 06:33:38 PM
I was being specific to KU
~You said for years KU has been competitive with weaker talent, because their coach knew our coaches system
never said that, they have been terrible forever
Quote from: MiR
They have always played us tough relative to their inferior talent.
Maybe someone with free time can look up assistant coach salaries and see how they fall in line between K-State, top tier, and lesser schools.
Post by: ednksu on November 30, 2012, 06:56:40 PM
SIGN HIM UP!
Post by: MakeItRain on November 30, 2012, 11:06:01 PM
I was being specific to KU
~You said for years KU has been competitive with weaker talent, because their coach knew our coaches system
never said that, they have been terrible foreverQuote from: MiRThey have always played us tough relative to their inferior talent.
Maybe someone with free time can look up assistant coach salaries and see how they fall in line between K-State, top tier, and lesser schools.
My actual sentence and what you interpreted as are worlds apart.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 30, 2012, 11:10:09 PM
Don't follow women's volleyball - like most olympic sports - but am happy when KSU is good.
That said, are we arguing that KSU doesn't have the talent to be relevant in the postseason? i.e. we need better facilities to recruit better talent?
I thought Fritz always had good talent, and was consistently taking teams to the NCAAs...
So, forgive me, but why the eff are facilities even relevant to this discussion?
They aren't relevant at all, Dax wanted to bitch so he used some press releases he's read as a basis for an argument that states we have good facilities so we should beat everybody. It's really rough ridin' stupid but the old man on the barstool is only happy when miserable and will go to any lengths to convince others to join him, up to & including talking out of his ass.
Post by: ednksu on December 01, 2012, 01:11:50 AM
so your direct quote with a direct parallel to what I said are world apart.....I was being specific to KU
~You said for years KU has been competitive with weaker talent, because their coach knew our coaches system
never said that, they have been terrible foreverQuote from: MiRThey have always played us tough relative to their inferior talent.
Maybe someone with free time can look up assistant coach salaries and see how they fall in line between K-State, top tier, and lesser schools.
My actual sentence and what you interpreted as are worlds apart.
wait what?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 01, 2012, 09:44:25 AM
K-State Volleyball moved into the former AD/Men's Basketball Suite, then it was remodeled . . . when they did that, the volleyball program at ku (for example) was stuck in some little broom closet office in the bowels of Allen Fieldhouse, until the last remodeling they did when it moved.
Oregon State Baseball (for example) won 2 National Titles before they even got the brand spanking new baseball stadium, before that, FHSU had a nicer stadium than Oregon State.
K-State is never going to have the nicest facilities across the board, but they're certainly nice enough.
Just once it would be nice for a K-State athletic team to step up and go the distance.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 03, 2012, 02:35:41 AM
so your direct quote with a direct parallel to what I said are world apart.....
wait what?
Yeah. If you think this
"They have always played us tough relative to their inferior talent."
Means this
You said for years KU has been competitive with weaker talent, because their coach knew our coaches system
You have a logic problem I can't help you.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 03, 2012, 02:41:32 AM
MIR, with the same old crap, I walked through Ahearn (for like the 1000th time) just this last summer right before school started at K-State. It was completely set up for Volleyball, I walked down through the underneath sections, and then back up through Ahearn Gym and the office areas.
K-State Volleyball moved into the former AD/Men's Basketball Suite, then it was remodeled . . . when they did that, the volleyball program at ku (for example) was stuck in some little broom closet office in the bowels of Allen Fieldhouse, until the last remodeling they did when it moved.
Oregon State Baseball (for example) won 2 National Titles before they even got the brand spanking new baseball stadium, before that, FHSU had a nicer stadium than Oregon State.
K-State is never going to have the nicest facilities across the board, but they're certainly nice enough.
Just once it would be nice for a K-State athletic team to step up and go the distance.
So your point to this is that we should win more games because our locker room has been upgraded from the 50's style concrete cave? Great to know Dax, makes perfect sense. Recruiting budgets and coaching salaries don't mean anything, the key to success is carpet.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 03, 2012, 04:10:38 AM
Hell Stony Brook (For Example) was in the CWS, and until recently their baseball field consisted of a fence, field, scoreboard, and a couple of dugouts. In FY 2012 K-State had $41 million dollars more athletic revenue then they did, in fact, K-State's private giving alone could have financed their entire athletic department, with $7 million left over.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 03, 2012, 04:43:56 AM
Other schools that have much smaller budgets than K-State have stepped up and gone the distance in NCAA athletics MIR . . . nice job in skipping over my point about that.
Hell Stony Brook (For Example) was in the CWS, and until recently their baseball field consisted of a fence, field, scoreboard, and a couple of dugouts. In FY 2012 K-State had $41 million dollars more athletic revenue then they did, in fact, K-State's private giving alone could have financed their entire athletic department, with $7 million left over.
We're talking volleyball here Dax, give me a volleyball team that fits your weird scenario. Take a couple of days, you'll certainly need it to research as it is certain that you haven't seen 5 matches in your life.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 03, 2012, 09:08:17 AM
I also take into account that K-State is approaching the $60 million dollar mark in annual athletic budget, and only funds the minimum amount of sports to be a D1 eligible school. One would think that we could actually make a run at a national title in something.
Northern Iowa . . . $14 million dollar athletic budget and they have to finance football.
Post by: owl borland on April 08, 2013, 02:36:51 PM
Quote
K-State Volleyball to Make Special Announcement Tuesday
Suzie Fritz, John Currie to hold press conference at 3 p.m.
April 8, 2013
MANHATTAN, Kan. – Kansas State Head Volleyball Coach Suzie Fritz and Athletics Director John Currie will make a special announcement regarding K-State Volleyball during a press conference scheduled for Tuesday, April 9. The press conference will be held in the Legends Room at Bramalge Coliseum at 3 p.m.
Anyone else dying to see what this is about?
Post by: MakeItRain on April 08, 2013, 02:40:56 PM
QuoteK-State Volleyball to Make Special Announcement Tuesday
Suzie Fritz, John Currie to hold press conference at 3 p.m.
April 8, 2013
MANHATTAN, Kan. – Kansas State Head Volleyball Coach Suzie Fritz and Athletics Director John Currie will make a special announcement regarding K-State Volleyball during a press conference scheduled for Tuesday, April 9. The press conference will be held in the Legends Room at Bramalge Coliseum at 3 p.m.
Anyone else dying to see what this is about?
My initial guess is either a facilities upgrade or she's been named as an assistant to the national team.
Post by: scottwildcat on April 08, 2013, 02:44:53 PM
QuoteK-State Volleyball to Make Special Announcement Tuesday
Suzie Fritz, John Currie to hold press conference at 3 p.m.
April 8, 2013
MANHATTAN, Kan. – Kansas State Head Volleyball Coach Suzie Fritz and Athletics Director John Currie will make a special announcement regarding K-State Volleyball during a press conference scheduled for Tuesday, April 9. The press conference will be held in the Legends Room at Bramalge Coliseum at 3 p.m.
Anyone else dying to see what this is about?
My initial guess is either a facilities upgrade or she's been named as an assistant to the national team.
I hope it is upgrades. I think they along with indoor track deserve a better practice facility and locker rooms.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 08, 2013, 02:56:00 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on April 08, 2013, 03:05:17 PM
I know it isn't going to happen but I want them out of Ahearn.
I like the idea of Ahearn still being used, but there could be a baller as crap volleyball arena to be built for relatively cheap.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 08, 2013, 03:13:16 PM
I know it isn't going to happen but I want them out of Ahearn.
I like the idea of Ahearn still being used, but there could be a baller as crap volleyball arena to be built for relatively cheap.
I like the Horsej Pavilion or whatever its called at KU.
Post by: scottwildcat on April 08, 2013, 03:14:51 PM
I know it isn't going to happen but I want them out of Ahearn.
I like the idea of Ahearn still being used, but there could be a baller as crap volleyball arena to be built for relatively cheap.
I like the Horsej Pavilion or whatever its called at KU.
I like it too, it probably isn't hot as balls on August and early September during games either.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 08, 2013, 03:24:37 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 08, 2013, 03:55:34 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 08, 2013, 03:59:42 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on April 08, 2013, 05:33:19 PM
Is Brandenberry used exclusively for baseball?
I believe so.
Post by: 8manpick on April 08, 2013, 08:40:24 PM
Is Brandenberry used exclusively for baseball?
Brandenberry is a warehouse, it wouldn't be a good volleyball arena.
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Post by: MakeItRain on April 08, 2013, 11:45:26 PM
Is Brandenberry used exclusively for baseball?
Brandenberry is a warehouse, it wouldn't be a good volleyball arena.
I'm aware of that and not at all why I asked.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 08, 2013, 11:46:38 PM
Maybe the presser will announce they're putting a dome over Memorial Stadium for the v-ballers and others? (No sources on this, good or bad. Project renderings rumored to be under lock and key somewhere off campus).
ugh, would be absolutely and completely awful
do
not
want
Post by: Spaces on April 09, 2013, 03:10:12 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 09, 2013, 03:50:13 PM
Post by: 8manpick on April 09, 2013, 03:53:42 PM
Is Brandenberry used exclusively for baseball?
Brandenberry is a warehouse, it wouldn't be a good volleyball arena.
I'm aware of that and not at all why I asked.
Okay. It is also used for some club sports practices in the winter and kids baseball camps.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 09, 2013, 04:54:56 PM
I am glad they're getting the opportunity but really??
Hate this time of the year.
Post by: 'taterblast on April 09, 2013, 04:56:43 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 09, 2013, 06:12:28 PM
are they going to get mushed by the competition they will face?
Likely since pros can play in Universiade, and the Euros will likely have a lot of pros. I'm guessing Russia is going to be tough. Also worth noting that the USA hasn't sent a women's volleyball team to this since 1997 and this happens every two years.
The biggest benefit of this is that we are allowed to have unlimited practices from the time that spring semester ends until the end of the event. That's nearly two months of practice after spring ball, its a huge advantage. One thing that might work against us when it comes to practice is that the FISU limits the volleyball roster to 12 as opposed to the 15 that are allowed by the NCAA. In addition to this Lilla Porubek and Natali Jones can't play because they are citizens of other countries, Jones has dual citizenship but still not legal to play. I hope that doesn't limit their ability to practice though because, especially in the case of Porubek, they are vital to next seasons success. It will also suck if they can't travel with the team.
Post by: ednksu on April 09, 2013, 08:52:01 PM
I haven't been in it, but it looked like a middle school multi use gym on TV. Is there a reason why you like it? I assume you've been in it.I know it isn't going to happen but I want them out of Ahearn.
I like the idea of Ahearn still being used, but there could be a baller as crap volleyball arena to be built for relatively cheap.
I like the Horsej Pavilion or whatever its called at KU.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 09, 2013, 10:14:08 PM
Post by: ednksu on October 02, 2013, 08:46:31 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 10, 2013, 01:03:50 AM
Hungarian out for the season. Seems like this year she's playing girls who have been backups their whole career. The new setters pretty good though.
Pelger is also playing hurt and got hurt again tonight. I'm unsure of what I think of the setter, she's aggressive at the net which I love but she is having some distribution issues. Tonight we hit about .070 and the setter has to wear that, we also had to tip a lot. I know passing can lead to these issues too so it all can't be laid at the feet of the setter. Brand is a freshman though so I'm happy we'll have her for 3 more years.
Losing Lilla hurts, she was playing very well before she got hurt. Where did you hear that she was out for the season? Kstatesports.com just ran a profile on her yesterday and that wasn't mentioned. Pretty odd to feature her if they think she's done. Sad for her that her college career is over if she in fact isn't returning.
Post by: jtksu on October 10, 2013, 01:21:52 AM
Hungarian out for the season. Seems like this year she's playing girls who have been backups their whole career. The new setters pretty good though.
Pelger is also playing hurt and got hurt again tonight. I'm unsure of what I think of the setter, she's aggressive at the net which I love but she is having some distribution issues. Tonight we hit about .070 and the setter has to wear that, we also had to tip a lot. I know passing can lead to these issues too so it all can't be laid at the feet of the setter. Brand is a freshman though so I'm happy we'll have her for 3 more years.
Losing Lilla hurts, she was playing very well before she got hurt. Where did you hear that she was out for the season? Kstatesports.com just ran a profile on her yesterday and that wasn't mentioned. Pretty odd to feature her if they think she's done. Sad for her that her college career is over if she in fact isn't returning.
By "not returning" do you mean her eligibility is exhausted? If so, is a medical a possibility?
Post by: TownieCat on October 10, 2013, 08:18:10 AM
Hungarian out for the season. Seems like this year she's playing girls who have been backups their whole career. The new setters pretty good though.
Pelger is also playing hurt and got hurt again tonight. I'm unsure of what I think of the setter, she's aggressive at the net which I love but she is having some distribution issues. Tonight we hit about .070 and the setter has to wear that, we also had to tip a lot. I know passing can lead to these issues too so it all can't be laid at the feet of the setter. Brand is a freshman though so I'm happy we'll have her for 3 more years.
Losing Lilla hurts, she was playing very well before she got hurt. Where did you hear that she was out for the season? Kstatesports.com just ran a profile on her yesterday and that wasn't mentioned. Pretty odd to feature her if they think she's done. Sad for her that her college career is over if she in fact isn't returning.
kstatesports.com just copy and pasted an article that big12sports.com had featured. My guess is that article was originally written a couple of weeks ago.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 10, 2013, 09:13:29 AM
Hungarian out for the season. Seems like this year she's playing girls who have been backups their whole career. The new setters pretty good though.
Pelger is also playing hurt and got hurt again tonight. I'm unsure of what I think of the setter, she's aggressive at the net which I love but she is having some distribution issues. Tonight we hit about .070 and the setter has to wear that, we also had to tip a lot. I know passing can lead to these issues too so it all can't be laid at the feet of the setter. Brand is a freshman though so I'm happy we'll have her for 3 more years.
Losing Lilla hurts, she was playing very well before she got hurt. Where did you hear that she was out for the season? Kstatesports.com just ran a profile on her yesterday and that wasn't mentioned. Pretty odd to feature her if they think she's done. Sad for her that her college career is over if she in fact isn't returning.
By "not returning" do you mean her eligibility is exhausted? If so, is a medical a possibility?
Yes she's a senior, no she won't get a medical redshirt if she's out for the year, she's played 13 matches this season.
Also yes kstatesports reran a big12sports article from a few weeks ago, they put a disclaimer saying so at the beginning of the article. Seems weird that they wouldn't add that she's out for the year with an injury to that addendum.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 10, 2013, 09:24:29 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 10, 2013, 09:33:15 AM
Post by: TownieCat on October 10, 2013, 09:44:19 AM
what would be a good match to go to this year(preferable one we don't get killed in)
I'd suggest either the Tech or Baylor matches. Both are typically very bad, especially Tech.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 10, 2013, 09:50:00 AM
Thanks townie :Pirate Bones:what would be a good match to go to this year(preferable one we don't get killed in)
I'd suggest either the Tech or Baylor matches. Both are typically very bad, especially Tech.
Post by: Spaces on October 10, 2013, 11:18:59 AM
sad to confirm that she's done for the year. talked about it with a stud volleycat last week.Hungarian out for the season. Seems like this year she's playing girls who have been backups their whole career. The new setters pretty good though.
Pelger is also playing hurt and got hurt again tonight. I'm unsure of what I think of the setter, she's aggressive at the net which I love but she is having some distribution issues. Tonight we hit about .070 and the setter has to wear that, we also had to tip a lot. I know passing can lead to these issues too so it all can't be laid at the feet of the setter. Brand is a freshman though so I'm happy we'll have her for 3 more years.
Losing Lilla hurts, she was playing very well before she got hurt. Where did you hear that she was out for the season? Kstatesports.com just ran a profile on her yesterday and that wasn't mentioned. Pretty odd to feature her if they think she's done. Sad for her that her college career is over if she in fact isn't returning.
By "not returning" do you mean her eligibility is exhausted? If so, is a medical a possibility?
Yes she's a senior, no she won't get a medical redshirt if she's out for the year, she's played 13 matches this season.
Also yes kstatesports reran a big12sports article from a few weeks ago, they put a disclaimer saying so at the beginning of the article. Seems weird that they wouldn't add that she's out for the year with an injury to that addendum.
Post by: salcat on October 10, 2013, 01:26:47 PM
It is a big loss bc she was one of the few that can terminate. Pelger can most of the time but she plays all around.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 10, 2013, 04:00:20 PM
Is it typical of V-ball teams to have their entire season determined by the availability of one player? Is it like losing a stud starting QB, or a stud 7-0 Center?
When its one of your best players, very typical. Add to that the best player isn't 100%. Benches in volleyball aren't used like other sports. Its not at all unusual for a team to only play 8 and two of those won't play front row at all. There is no equivalence in any other team sport for the impact of one player that a volleyball player could have. Porubek is still at this point responsible for 15% of our total kills even though she's only played 13 of 17 matches. Pelger has been responsible for 23% of our kills.
Post by: ednksu on October 20, 2013, 03:45:47 AM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 20, 2013, 10:30:09 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 20, 2013, 07:43:27 PM
Went to the game. It was fun, #6 is good. seems like she's prob the best player.
She isn't. Glad you went to the match and had fun. Go lots, they're all fun.
Post by: salcat on October 20, 2013, 10:25:16 PM
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Post by: Tobias on October 20, 2013, 11:52:24 PM
Season tickets, here we come. Good thing they're still available. :)
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 21, 2013, 08:01:31 AM
#16 was runner up.Went to the game. It was fun, #6 is good. seems like she's prob the best player.
She isn't. Glad you went to the match and had fun. Go lots, they're all fun.
#6 has this crazy eye thing going on when she goes to set the ball to someone behind her. :horrorsurprise: she looks like an exorcism is happening to her
Post by: salcat on October 21, 2013, 04:48:37 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 21, 2013, 05:24:40 PM
#17 is supposed to be the best player.apparently, stats lie.. but the ball don't
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Post by: star seed 7 on March 21, 2014, 03:54:01 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 21, 2014, 06:49:45 AM
this also likely puts pressure on Suzie, I'd get my hopes up for Dawn Cady Sullivan but Currie :shakesfist: we'll hire the head coach at Northwestern or New Mexico.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 08, 2014, 09:21:46 PM
looks like I was right, like usualWent to the game. It was fun, #6 is good. seems like she's prob the best player.
She isn't. Glad you went to the match and had fun. Go lots, they're all fun.
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Post by: MakeItRain on April 08, 2014, 10:00:29 PM
looks like I was right, like usualWent to the game. It was fun, #6 is good. seems like she's prob the best player.
She isn't. Glad you went to the match and had fun. Go lots, they're all fun.
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Grats to Katie, very cool. Kaitlynn's not eligible for the USA college volleyball team because she is no longer a college volleyball player.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 09, 2014, 09:50:15 AM
A Volleyball Training Facility is going in south of Bram. Two courts with locker rooms, offices, etc. :kstategrad:
How did I miss this, where South of the Bram exactly?
Rendos?
Post by: puniraptor on April 09, 2014, 09:55:30 AM
A Volleyball Training Facility is going in south of Bram. Two courts with locker rooms, offices, etc. :kstategrad:
How did I miss this, where South of the Bram exactly?
Rendos?
i dont really understand this.
It's not like they have to share their space in ahearn with anyone. money should be spent on a locker room/office upgrade in ahearn.
is the the groundwork for currie debbing suzie?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 09, 2014, 10:25:39 AM
A Volleyball Training Facility is going in south of Bram. Two courts with locker rooms, offices, etc. :kstategrad:
How did I miss this, where South of the Bram exactly?
Rendos?
i dont really understand this.
It's not like they have to share their space in ahearn with anyone. money should be spent on a locker room/office upgrade in ahearn.
is the the groundwork for currie debbing suzie?
They have to share Ahearn with Indoor track.
My facilities dream is to see a whole new football practice complex built with a new indoor facility for football and convert the old football indoor facility, to the indoor track.
Pretty mixed on a Volleyball arena out by Bram tho.
But I like the scenarios, all the non-revenue sports are getting more stuff, and this is likely going to build the case for their relative coaching staffs to perform better.
Post by: pissclams on April 09, 2014, 10:28:18 AM
A Volleyball Training Facility is going in south of Bram. Two courts with locker rooms, offices, etc. :kstategrad:
How did I miss this, where South of the Bram exactly?
Rendos?
i was wondering the same thing. the coaches/players parking is located south of bramlage and then the indoor complex.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 09, 2014, 10:59:46 AM
A practice facility at Bramlage is really stupid unless Currie plans on moving volleyball to Bramlage, which I suppose is possible after they move some of the AD offices in Bramlage to the Vanier 3.0. And yes if this is happening it puts Suzie on notice. If she does get moved we have a no doubt, slam dunk replacement in Dawn Cady Sullivan. I've talked to people very close to the Iowa State volleyball program who are nervous about losing her to us because they want her as a successor to their current coach.
Post by: puniraptor on April 09, 2014, 11:06:45 AM
And yes if this is happening it puts Suzie on notice. If she does get moved we have a no doubt, slam dunk replacement in Dawn Cady Sullivan. I've talked to people very close to the Iowa State volleyball program who are nervous about losing her to us because they want her as a successor to their current coach.
the only thing i know for sure is that currie will not hire a replacement coach that anyone wants or expects.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 09, 2014, 11:17:50 AM
And yes if this is happening it puts Suzie on notice. If she does get moved we have a no doubt, slam dunk replacement in Dawn Cady Sullivan. I've talked to people very close to the Iowa State volleyball program who are nervous about losing her to us because they want her as a successor to their current coach.
the only thing i know for sure is that currie will not hire a replacement coach that anyone wants or expects.
Rarely does a school actually hire the message board fapfest "want or expect" coach.
Moving Volleyball to Bramlage is now much more feasible with the BTF.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 09, 2014, 11:18:32 AM
And yes if this is happening it puts Suzie on notice. If she does get moved we have a no doubt, slam dunk replacement in Dawn Cady Sullivan. I've talked to people very close to the Iowa State volleyball program who are nervous about losing her to us because they want her as a successor to their current coach.
the only thing i know for sure is that currie will not hire a replacement coach that anyone wants or expects.
Dawn is different, if she isn't the next coach at K-State she will be at Iowa State. She is a bonified head coaching candidate; not an analyst or a 27 year old 2nd assistant. Dawn isn't nearly as big of a risk.
Post by: nicname on April 09, 2014, 11:45:14 AM
Post by: TownieCat on April 09, 2014, 11:51:00 AM
And yes if this is happening it puts Suzie on notice. If she does get moved we have a no doubt, slam dunk replacement in Dawn Cady Sullivan. I've talked to people very close to the Iowa State volleyball program who are nervous about losing her to us because they want her as a successor to their current coach.
the only thing i know for sure is that currie will not hire a replacement coach that anyone wants or expects.
Rarely does a school actually hire the message board fapfest "want or expect" coach.
Moving Volleyball to Bramlage is now much more feasible with the BTF.
Volleyball games in Bramlage would be an absolutely terrible atmosphere. Ahearn is a pit, but it's also a huge home court advantage.
Post by: TownieCat on April 09, 2014, 11:52:15 AM
They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Totally agree... The problem is there is nowhere to put it.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 09, 2014, 11:52:43 AM
They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Ahearn does blow, your capacities are way too small.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 09, 2014, 11:56:04 AM
And yes if this is happening it puts Suzie on notice. If she does get moved we have a no doubt, slam dunk replacement in Dawn Cady Sullivan. I've talked to people very close to the Iowa State volleyball program who are nervous about losing her to us because they want her as a successor to their current coach.
the only thing i know for sure is that currie will not hire a replacement coach that anyone wants or expects.
Rarely does a school actually hire the message board fapfest "want or expect" coach.
Moving Volleyball to Bramlage is now much more feasible with the BTF.
Volleyball games in Bramlage would be an absolutely terrible atmosphere. Ahearn is a pit, but it's also a huge home court advantage.
We played ISU there a few years ago after a football game and it was brutal. ISU plays in Hilton and the atmosphere is okay, not terrible, just okay.
Post by: nicname on April 09, 2014, 01:47:06 PM
They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Ahearn does blow, your capacities are way too small.
Get any bigger and you're looking at a half-full arena a lot of the time. You're probably right though, when taking NCAA hosting into effect.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 09, 2014, 02:16:39 PM
Move the v-ball court to where the b-ball court used to be and tighten and create a seating bowl around it. I'm thinking about 5-6,000 seats, and renovated entry lobbies etc. etc.
But we're talking $15 million easy.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 09, 2014, 02:45:49 PM
They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Ahearn does blow, your capacities are way too small.
Get any bigger and you're looking at a half-full arena a lot of the time. You're probably right though, when taking NCAA hosting into effect.
then just pick up the court and move it to da bram when you need to host ncaa's
Post by: cfbandyman on April 09, 2014, 02:49:23 PM
Ahearn could be a very good V-Ball Venue, but that would require substantial renovation.
Move the v-ball court to where the b-ball court used to be and tighten and create a seating bowl around it. I'm thinking about 5-6,000 seats, and renovated entry lobbies etc. etc.
But we're talking $15 million easy.
Would agree on a lot of that, but if they do think about actually moving vball out to Bramlage and adding the vball training facility, they should also renovate Bramlage (concourse, amenities, suites, etc.) with it and complete that all in one fell swoop (and would probably cost about the same $15 mill overall for the whole deal), would help 3 sports in 1 facility and potentially make any renovations of Ahearn if they make it into an indoor track and field only facility much more minor, but wouldn't know cost-benefit without some good numbers. If we're talking atmosphere though, they should keep it obviously in Ahearn, but if dollars and cents work out a move to the Bram might be worth it.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 09, 2014, 02:59:09 PM
They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Ahearn does blow, your capacities are way too small.
Get any bigger and you're looking at a half-full arena a lot of the time. You're probably right though, when taking NCAA hosting into effect.
then just pick up the court and move it to da bram when you need to host ncaa's
NCAA brings in their own courts now.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 09, 2014, 03:00:16 PM
They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Ahearn does blow, your capacities are way too small.
Get any bigger and you're looking at a half-full arena a lot of the time. You're probably right though, when taking NCAA hosting into effect.
then just pick up the court and move it to da bram when you need to host ncaa's
NCAA brings in their own courts now.
pft, even better
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 09, 2014, 03:43:52 PM
Ahearn could be a very good V-Ball Venue, but that would require substantial renovation.
Move the v-ball court to where the b-ball court used to be and tighten and create a seating bowl around it. I'm thinking about 5-6,000 seats, and renovated entry lobbies etc. etc.
But we're talking $15 million easy.
How much for the sand?
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 09, 2014, 04:11:02 PM
A Volleyball Training Facility is going in south of Bram. Two courts with locker rooms, offices, etc. :kstategrad:
How did I miss this, where South of the Bram exactly?
Rendos?
WHOA DAX...WHOA! we don't want anyone to lose a job or anything there big fella.
Post by: nicname on April 09, 2014, 05:16:55 PM
They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Ahearn does blow, your capacities are way too small.
Get any bigger and you're looking at a half-full arena a lot of the time. You're probably right though, when taking NCAA hosting into effect.
then just pick up the court and move it to da bram when you need to host ncaa's
yup
Post by: pissclams on April 09, 2014, 07:39:22 PM
Post by: sunny_cat on April 09, 2014, 08:45:01 PM
rumblings of an smaller octogon on top of the octogon, similar to a wedding cake
Lol, would take
Post by: MakeItRain on April 09, 2014, 09:02:20 PM
They should build them a 2,500-3,000 seat arena just for volleyball. Ahearn is the worst.
Ahearn does blow, your capacities are way too small.
Get any bigger and you're looking at a half-full arena a lot of the time. You're probably right though, when taking NCAA hosting into effect.
then just pick up the court and move it to da bram when you need to host ncaa's
NCAA brings in their own courts now.
For the regionals and the final four, not for the 1st & 2nd rounds
Post by: EMAWican on April 10, 2014, 10:10:54 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 10, 2014, 11:04:30 AM
No rendos yet to donate to ComboFan season. JFC told an architecture firm several weeks ago to come up with a design/rendos for a two-court volleyball training facility with locker rooms, offices, etc. located adjacent south of the fOoD (similar to the BTF). The VTF will go in, but a set timeline hasn't been established yet. I bet the project will be in the $8-13 million range probs.
If they're going to spend that much, might as well add another $7 million or so and just build a 4 or 5K seat game venue.
Post by: scottwildcat on April 10, 2014, 11:09:34 AM
No rendos yet to donate to ComboFan season. JFC told an architecture firm several weeks ago to come up with a design/rendos for a two-court volleyball training facility with locker rooms, offices, etc. located adjacent south of the fOoD (similar to the BTF). The VTF will go in, but a set timeline hasn't been established yet. I bet the project will be in the $8-13 million range probs.
If they're going to spend that much, might as well add another $7 million or so and just build a 4 or 5K seat game venue.
yup.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 10, 2014, 10:13:15 PM
No rendos yet to donate to ComboFan season. JFC told an architecture firm several weeks ago to come up with a design/rendos for a two-court volleyball training facility with locker rooms, offices, etc. located adjacent south of the fOoD (similar to the BTF). The VTF will go in, but a set timeline hasn't been established yet. I bet the project will be in the $8-13 million range probs.
I hate everything about this, what a colossal waste of money
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2014, 09:56:03 AM
But IMO the goal should be a new arena or a reconfigured Ahearn for Volleyball only.
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Post by: MakeItRain on April 13, 2014, 03:35:14 PM
TFS and Baseball should see that money before volleyball if its either/or scenario.
Wha? How do you figure?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 13, 2014, 04:12:07 PM
This particularly needs to happen if they push the season back. Everybody will be balls out in baseball if that happens.
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Post by: MakeItRain on April 14, 2014, 11:54:31 PM
Because. We need to improve our baseball facilities. We've been a play or two away from the CWS.
This particularly needs to happen if they push the season back. Everybody will be balls out in baseball if that happens.
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No we weren't. Even if we were the CWS amounts to the elite 8. The volleyball team has been to three sweet 16s. If this is about program accomplishments it isn't even close, not historically, not currently. Baseball has had more extensive improvements more recently and frankly baseball has the better facility although neither are anything close to elite. Baseball historically hasn't made K-State any more money than volleyball, they don't get to take that mantle because of one pissed away season.
The only real argument for improving baseball facilities before making sensible improvements to the volleyball program can't really go beyond "I like baseball better." That being said if the choice is building a volleyball practice facility at Bramlage or building a whole new baseball stadium, I'd pick the baseball stadium. I'd advocate K-State starting a bull fighting team and building a bull fighting arena before a volleyball practice facility at Bramlage. I'd advocate the athletic department building an American Girl doll store before a volleyball practice facility at Bramlage.
Post by: Trogdor on April 15, 2014, 12:08:16 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 15, 2014, 12:12:26 AM
Funnel resources into sports that will make money (i.e football, MENs bball, and baseball). I believe everyone deserves opportunities, but if there is no money to be made, there is no reason to invest. The Toint needs a huge overhaul for various reasons, and V-Ball can wait. ADJC is probably not focused on the well-being and success of volleyball. Dude is King Midas, and all he wants is to make crap look good and make money, but he wont funnel it into some avenue that will suck the fun (money) out of the budget. (BTW, rowing doesn't deserve a facility, its a non-revenue sport that sucks on the teet of football that is federally required by T-XIV)
Can you read? I addressed this, volleyball has historically made a lot more money than baseball at Kansas State. Also what the hell is title 14? Certainly you know that all sports other than men's basketball "sucks on the teet of football" right?
Post by: bones129 on April 15, 2014, 12:16:00 AM
Funnel resources into sports that will make money (i.e football, MENs bball, and baseball). I believe everyone deserves opportunities, but if there is no money to be made, there is no reason to invest. The Toint needs a huge overhaul for various reasons, and V-Ball can wait. ADJC is probably not focused on the well-being and success of volleyball. Dude is King Midas, and all he wants is to make crap look good and make money, but he wont funnel it into some avenue that will suck the fun (money) out of the budget. (BTW, rowing doesn't deserve a facility, its a non-revenue sport that sucks on the teet of football that is federally required by T-XIV)
The Toint needs an overhaul? Why? As for the rest of this post, I refer you to MIR's response.
Post by: ednksu on April 15, 2014, 12:18:40 AM
Post by: Trogdor on April 15, 2014, 12:19:36 AM
Funnel resources into sports that will make money (i.e football, MENs bball, and baseball). I believe everyone deserves opportunities, but if there is no money to be made, there is no reason to invest. The Toint needs a huge overhaul for various reasons, and V-Ball can wait. ADJC is probably not focused on the well-being and success of volleyball. Dude is King Midas, and all he wants is to make crap look good and make money, but he wont funnel it into some avenue that will suck the fun (money) out of the budget. (BTW, rowing doesn't deserve a facility, its a non-revenue sport that sucks on the teet of football that is federally required by T-XIV)
Can you read? I addressed this, volleyball has historically made a lot more money than baseball at Kansas State. Also what the hell is title 14? Certainly you know that all sports other than men's basketball "sucks on the teet of football" right?
Title IX, whatever, shut up im tired.
And historically doesnt mean crap. Maybe back in the day, but this is now, Batcats are drawing a larger fanbase, which equals :kstategrad:
Post by: Trogdor on April 15, 2014, 12:22:17 AM
I kinda wonder if they are looking to move VB out of Ahearn and into the OOD. Why else would you build a training facility so far away from the home court? Seems like we're seeing a general push to move everything to an athletics campus.
This is probably the long term goal. They'll probably convert Ahearn into some museum or some stuff for the Kinesiology Dept. Indoor track will have to bounce over to the Athletic Complex of Doom as well.
Personally I don't think they should move. The only way to get students to go to this stuff is to make it convenient (i.e. keeping it right on campus)
Post by: bones129 on April 15, 2014, 12:28:46 AM
I kinda wonder if they are looking to move VB out of Ahearn and into the OOD. Why else would you build a training facility so far away from the home court? Seems like we're seeing a general push to move everything to an athletics campus.
This is probably the long term goal. They'll probably convert Ahearn into some museum or some stuff for the Kinesiology Dept. Indoor track will have to bounce over to the Athletic Complex of Doom as well.
Personally I don't think they should move. The only way to get students to go to this stuff is to make it convenient (i.e. keeping it right on campus)
Moving indoor track from Ahearn would require a new building. Bramlage is entirely unsuitable for track, size-wise and otherwise.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 15, 2014, 01:05:13 AM
Funnel resources into sports that will make money (i.e football, MENs bball, and baseball). I believe everyone deserves opportunities, but if there is no money to be made, there is no reason to invest. The Toint needs a huge overhaul for various reasons, and V-Ball can wait. ADJC is probably not focused on the well-being and success of volleyball. Dude is King Midas, and all he wants is to make crap look good and make money, but he wont funnel it into some avenue that will suck the fun (money) out of the budget. (BTW, rowing doesn't deserve a facility, its a non-revenue sport that sucks on the teet of football that is federally required by T-XIV)
Can you read? I addressed this, volleyball has historically made a lot more money than baseball at Kansas State. Also what the hell is title 14? Certainly you know that all sports other than men's basketball "sucks on the teet of football" right?
Title IX, whatever, shut up im tired.
And historically doesnt mean crap. Maybe back in the day, but this is now, Batcats are drawing a larger fanbase, which equals :kstategrad:
Back in the day like last year and every year before it? How do you think the baseball revenue will look next year?
Post by: MakeItRain on April 15, 2014, 01:10:49 AM
I kinda wonder if they are looking to move VB out of Ahearn and into the OOD. Why else would you build a training facility so far away from the home court? Seems like we're seeing a general push to move everything to an athletics campus.
I would reluctantly be okay with this. I'm just so over Ahearn and I'm sure we aren't pumping any money into it to make it a viable long term home for K-State volleyball. It is frustrating though that other schools in this conference have turned their old basketball facilities into new volleyball facilities. Even moving the court to the center of Ahearn, moving the metal bleachers from BSFS, and installing a video board would do wonders. I still don't understand the need for a new practice facility when a renovation of the current practice gym at Ahearn is all that is needed.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 15, 2014, 05:30:08 AM
The only drawback might be having to work with the academic side like the Department of Kinesiology which occupies Ahearn.
Baseball can evolve with more suites, more seats etc. etc.
It will be absurd to spend $8 to $12 million on volleyball unless substantial improvements are made to TFS and the baseball facilities at the same time if not before. Particularly if baseball is pushed back a month, improving the competitive stature of nearly every D1 school substantially.
Post by: nicname on April 15, 2014, 03:37:16 PM
Baseball needs the improvements first. VB is perfectly fine in Ahearn. Get indoor track out of there, and reconfigure the arena area to put the court where the basketball court used to be and make some improvements. They'll have tons of space to set up about as many practice V-Ball courts as they could possibly want. In fact, they'll have so much room they could put in at least one all sand court for training.
The only drawback might be having to work with the academic side like the Department of Kinesiology which occupies Ahearn.
Baseball can evolve with more suites, more seats etc. etc.
It will be absurd to spend $8 to $12 million on volleyball unless substantial improvements are made to TFS and the baseball facilities at the same time if not before. Particularly if baseball is pushed back a month, improving the competitive stature of nearly every D1 school substantially.
What would cost more for a quality structure, volleyball or a new indoor track facility?
Post by: MakeItRain on April 15, 2014, 04:45:37 PM
Baseball needs the improvements first. VB is perfectly fine in Ahearn. Get indoor track out of there, and reconfigure the arena area to put the court where the basketball court used to be and make some improvements. They'll have tons of space to set up about as many practice V-Ball courts as they could possibly want. In fact, they'll have so much room they could put in at least one all sand court for training.
The only drawback might be having to work with the academic side like the Department of Kinesiology which occupies Ahearn.
Baseball can evolve with more suites, more seats etc. etc.
It will be absurd to spend $8 to $12 million on volleyball unless substantial improvements are made to TFS and the baseball facilities at the same time if not before. Particularly if baseball is pushed back a month, improving the competitive stature of nearly every D1 school substantially.
Sand play for elite indoor volleyball players is a nono. It's a completely different game and sand lends itself to lots of injuries.
I do agree that baseball changing its schedule changes this conversation because it increases baseball's earning potential.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 15, 2014, 04:49:36 PM
(http://thisisnebraska.com/images/vb_teamfacilities_tn1.jpg)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 15, 2014, 04:56:21 PM
So Nebraska has it wrong then?
(http://thisisnebraska.com/images/vb_teamfacilities_tn1.jpg)
Dax, you really think I wasn't aware of that? Yes I think that they have it wrong. I would be surprised if they actually used that for training instead of just something that looks cool.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 15, 2014, 04:58:30 PM
So Nebraska has it wrong then?
(http://thisisnebraska.com/images/vb_teamfacilities_tn1.jpg)
Dax, you really think I wasn't aware of that? Yes I think that they have it wrong. I would be surprised if they actually used that for training instead of just something that looks cool.
I didn't think you weren't aware, I say a video, I think on the Big 10 network, where they had a whole segment on working out on the sand.
Maybe it was just for show.
Post by: KStatefan8903 on May 08, 2014, 10:30:54 AM
So Nebraska has it wrong then?
(http://thisisnebraska.com/images/vb_teamfacilities_tn1.jpg)
Dax, you really think I wasn't aware of that? Yes I think that they have it wrong. I would be surprised if they actually used that for training instead of just something that looks cool.
Nebraska started a NCAA Sand volleyball team last year. All of the players on the sand volleyball roster are also on the volleyball roster.
Post by: scottwildcat on May 08, 2014, 01:45:27 PM
So Nebraska has it wrong then?
(http://thisisnebraska.com/images/vb_teamfacilities_tn1.jpg)
Dax, you really think I wasn't aware of that? Yes I think that they have it wrong. I would be surprised if they actually used that for training instead of just something that looks cool.
Nebraska started a NCAA Sand volleyball team last year.
interesting first post
Post by: MakeItRain on May 08, 2014, 06:49:44 PM
So Nebraska has it wrong then?
(http://thisisnebraska.com/images/vb_teamfacilities_tn1.jpg)
Dax, you really think I wasn't aware of that? Yes I think that they have it wrong. I would be surprised if they actually used that for training instead of just something that looks cool.
Nebraska started a NCAA Sand volleyball team last year.
interesting first post
Who are you? If you are really a Nebraska fan we won't be mean to you if you aren't an idiot, so feel free to change your name. If you're a K-State insider give us more info, specifically about this half cocked practice gym at Bramlage idea.
It is interesting that there is no info about NCAA Sand Volleyball anywhere on a site directly sanctioned by the NCAA but AVCA has some info.
http://www.avca.org/sand/poll/
http://www.avca.org/includes/media/docs/ALL-IN-ONE-DI-Sand-VB-Handbook-Leg-Regs-Interps-11%2813%29docx.pdf
it's an eclectic group of schools currently playing, a few good programs, two elites (Washington & Stanford), and a lot of small schools. No UT or Penn State.
Post by: Kid In the Hall on May 08, 2014, 10:03:31 PM
http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20080213/NEWS/229984505 (http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20080213/NEWS/229984505)
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 06, 2014, 11:02:05 PM
The Big 12 has been screwed in that poll all season.
Post by: ednksu on October 09, 2014, 01:47:40 AM
could have had them in 3, but the second wind didn't come full sail until the 4th.
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Trivia question from the future: How many Championships did you celebrate from October 2014 through April 2015 if you were a Kansas City and Kansas State Sports fan?(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/20/df91ac4e1e92d99ed88e691684ddc1d4.jpg)
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Post by: nicname on October 21, 2014, 01:56:51 AM
For those haven't been following; we are the second best team the conference, not sure we'll finish there or not, we'll see. We will make the tournament, but even though we're the second best team in the conference our chance of hosting is borderline. The Big 12 rpi is just okay, we will need to finish 14-4 or better in conference to host in the NCAA imo. If we really make a run there is a potential of playing the entire tournament in the Big 12 footprint as there is a regional here in Ames and the final four is in OKC.
17 rpi. I know rpi isn't a great measure of a team in bball, and I don't know if it is of similar or greater worth in vball, but apparently one of the coaches seems to think that finishing in the top 16 rpi gives a good chance of hosting.
KSU played sub-par vs Texas. Much of the credit due to the Longhorns, but even in the second set, which K-State had a good shot at, they really didn't play too terribly well. Bodes well for them, imo.
They are obviously good on the block, and they can play pretty decent transition if need be, but they have a tendency to let things snow-ball when the opposition is in serve. It's mostly a reception problem, but things have improved. They've come a long way since letting a pud Mo. State team and a shorthanded Baylor squad go on long runs at home. Texas got to them, but that's Texas.
Wednesday night will paint a pretty descriptive picture of the team imo. OU is good offensively, and will try to force long rallies defensively. If K-State can regain offensive efficiency and keep rallies short it would be a great sign for them.
Post by: pissclams on October 22, 2014, 08:48:55 PM
mike stoops was heard outside of ahearn complaining about coach fritz's blockers
Post by: joda on October 22, 2014, 08:50:33 PM
great 3-0 win tonight against OU
mike stoops was heard outside of ahearn complaining about coach fritz's blockers
Sure looked like their arms where too far over the net
Post by: MakeItRain on October 22, 2014, 09:08:58 PM
For those haven't been following; we are the second best team the conference, not sure we'll finish there or not, we'll see. We will make the tournament, but even though we're the second best team in the conference our chance of hosting is borderline. The Big 12 rpi is just okay, we will need to finish 14-4 or better in conference to host in the NCAA imo. If we really make a run there is a potential of playing the entire tournament in the Big 12 footprint as there is a regional here in Ames and the final four is in OKC.
17 rpi. I know rpi isn't a great measure of a team in bball, and I don't know if it is of similar or greater worth in vball, but apparently one of the coaches seems to think that finishing in the top 16 rpi gives a good chance of hosting.
KSU played sub-par vs Texas. Much of the credit due to the Longhorns, but even in the second set, which K-State had a good shot at, they really didn't play too terribly well. Bodes well for them, imo.
They are obviously good on the block, and they can play pretty decent transition if need be, but they have a tendency to let things snow-ball when the opposition is in serve. It's mostly a reception problem, but things have improved. They've come a long way since letting a pud Mo. State team and a shorthanded Baylor squad go on long runs at home. Texas got to them, but that's Texas.
Wednesday night will paint a pretty descriptive picture of the team imo. OU is good offensively, and will try to force long rallies defensively. If K-State can regain offensive efficiency and keep rallies short it would be a great sign for them.
Great win tonight, we are firmly the 2nd best team the conference.
The RPI carries a lot more weight in volleyball than basketball, a lot more. The committee doesn't have the luxury of watching nearly as many volleyball matches so the eye test doesn't happen in volleyball, they rely on concrete data.
Like I said a conference record of 12-4 should be good enough to earn the opportunity to host.
Post by: jmlynch1 on October 22, 2014, 09:09:14 PM
grey areagreat 3-0 win tonight against OU
mike stoops was heard outside of ahearn complaining about coach fritz's blockers
Sure looked like their arms where too far over the net
Post by: joda on October 22, 2014, 09:35:02 PM
grey areagreat 3-0 win tonight against OU
mike stoops was heard outside of ahearn complaining about coach fritz's blockers
Sure looked like their arms where too far over the net
Well it's just unfair to the other team. Nothing to do but complain
Post by: nicname on October 22, 2014, 10:08:15 PM
Nice strategy of repeatedly making Madison Ward — whose 4.12 kills/ set rank second in the Big 12 during conference play — receive serve. She had eight kills on 34 attempts, with eight attack errors. .000 hitting. Held an OU offense that's hit a Big 12 best .274 in conference play to just .192 as a team.
Post by: joda on October 22, 2014, 10:23:01 PM
Best I've seen from this team all season. Offense was great, but OU is a tremendous offensive team and K-State simply crap them down for much of the match.:sdeek:
Nice strategy of repeatedly making Madison Ward — whose 4.12 kills/ set rank second in the Big 12 during conference play — receive serve. She had eight kills on 34 attempts, with eight attack errors. .000 hitting. Held an OU offense that's hit a Big 12 best .274 in conference play to just .192 as a team.
Post by: nicname on October 22, 2014, 10:24:57 PM
Best I've seen from this team all season. Offense was great, but OU is a tremendous offensive team and K-State simply:sdeek:shit shut them down for much of the match.
Nice strategy of repeatedly making Madison Ward — whose 4.12 kills/ set rank second in the Big 12 during conference play — receive serve. She had eight kills on 34 attempts, with eight attack errors. .000 hitting. Held an OU offense that's hit a Big 12 best .274 in conference play to just .192 as a team.
:lol:
Post by: pissclams on October 23, 2014, 12:55:24 PM
Best I've seen from this team all season. Offense was great, but OU is a tremendous offensive team and K-State simply crap them down for much of the match.
Nice strategy of repeatedly making Madison Ward — whose 4.12 kills/ set rank second in the Big 12 during conference play — receive serve. She had eight kills on 34 attempts, with eight attack errors. .000 hitting. Held an OU offense that's hit a Big 12 best .274 in conference play to just .192 as a team.
nicname. i'm really kind of pissed off right now. ok, i'm not kind of pissed off, i'm furious. this post deserves validation from MiR but he's treating you like a little bitch, bro.
you guys have some sort of squabble that we don't know about, son?
Post by: nicname on October 23, 2014, 03:36:42 PM
Best I've seen from this team all season. Offense was great, but OU is a tremendous offensive team and K-State simply crap them down for much of the match.
Nice strategy of repeatedly making Madison Ward — whose 4.12 kills/ set rank second in the Big 12 during conference play — receive serve. She had eight kills on 34 attempts, with eight attack errors. .000 hitting. Held an OU offense that's hit a Big 12 best .274 in conference play to just .192 as a team.
nicname. i'm really kind of pissed off right now. ok, i'm not kind of pissed off, i'm furious. this post deserves validation from MiR but he's treating you like a little bitch, bro.
you guys have some sort of squabble that we don't know about, son?
I dunno, probably.
jk
Post by: MakeItRain on October 25, 2014, 09:45:35 PM
Best I've seen from this team all season. Offense was great, but OU is a tremendous offensive team and K-State simply crap them down for much of the match.
OU swept UT tonight
Post by: nicname on October 25, 2014, 11:17:19 PM
Best I've seen from this team all season. Offense was great, but OU is a tremendous offensive team and K-State simply crap them down for much of the match.
OU swept UT tonight
Holy crap.
Post by: nicname on October 26, 2014, 12:21:51 AM
Post by: nicname on October 26, 2014, 12:28:09 AM
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=106106&SPID=13133&DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=209687721&DB_OEM_ID=10410
Post by: The Big Train on October 26, 2014, 01:16:38 AM
Post by: nicname on October 26, 2014, 01:18:03 AM
hey nicname, odd question and prob should be in the MDT but like do you know any of the lady volleycats well enough to recommend a certain poster who is tall dark and handsome, asking for a friend
I dunno, that'd be pretty creepy. But I'm sure they like tall dudes. I mean half of them are over 6 feet tall.
Post by: The Big Train on October 26, 2014, 01:20:10 AM
hey nicname, odd question and prob should be in the MDT but like do you know any of the lady volleycats well enough to recommend a certain poster who is tall dark and handsome, asking for a friend
I dunno, that'd be pretty creepy. But I'm sure they like tall dudes. I mean half of them are over 6 feet tall.
alright, will report this back to the friend that asked :thumbs:
Post by: nicname on October 26, 2014, 01:25:06 AM
hey nicname, odd question and prob should be in the MDT but like do you know any of the lady volleycats well enough to recommend a certain poster who is tall dark and handsome, asking for a friend
I dunno, that'd be pretty creepy. But I'm sure they like tall dudes. I mean half of them are over 6 feet tall.
alright, will report this back to the friend that asked :thumbs:
I would suggest to just start showing up at practices, and then going to games and always sitting directly opposite of the bench and gazing into their eyes. Also screaming really loudly for those little volleyballs that they toss out before the matches. You'll have to move every set though because they switch benches all the time. Gotta keep that eye contact.
If that doesn't work I'd suggest randomly sending flowers to the VB offices and showing up at their apartments with a radio and a well-tuned singing voice.
Hope this helps your friend.
Post by: The Big Train on October 26, 2014, 01:28:28 AM
hey nicname, odd question and prob should be in the MDT but like do you know any of the lady volleycats well enough to recommend a certain poster who is tall dark and handsome, asking for a friend
I dunno, that'd be pretty creepy. But I'm sure they like tall dudes. I mean half of them are over 6 feet tall.
alright, will report this back to the friend that asked :thumbs:
I would suggest to just start showing up at practices, and then going to games and always sitting directly opposite of the bench and gazing into their eyes. Also screaming really loudly for those little volleyballs that they toss out before the matches. You'll have to move every set though because they switch benches all the time. Gotta keep that eye contact.
If that doesn't work I'd suggest randomly sending flowers to the VB offices and showing up at their apartments with a radio and a well-tuned singing voice.
Hope this helps your friend.
this is great advice, for my friend :thumbs:
Post by: MakeItRain on October 26, 2014, 12:11:03 PM
Ho hum. Another road win. This one 3-2 at WVU. Fritz saving her job this season imo.
Her job was fine, Olympic sports coaches don't get evaluated like football and basketball coaches and she isn't the perceived pain in the ass Deb was.
Post by: ednksu on October 26, 2014, 01:04:52 PM
damn dude I don't know. Its one thing to stay under the radar and keep sawing wood with your program. But when common K-State0 fans start to get pissed with your performance (for a lot, I think you've noted, losing to KU), I think the leash can be pretty freaking short.Ho hum. Another road win. This one 3-2 at WVU. Fritz saving her job this season imo.
Her job was fine, Olympic sports coaches don't get evaluated like football and basketball coaches and she isn't the perceived pain in the ass Deb was.
Do you know off the top of your head if she has had any changes on her bench with assistants over the last 3ish seasons?
Post by: sunny_cat on October 26, 2014, 01:40:53 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 26, 2014, 05:20:31 PM
Currie is smart enough of an athletic director to evaluate coaches on their own merits. He isn't going to make personnel decisions based on people pissed on a message board because they can't make clever posts to other message board posters. Volleyball, baseball, and wbb coaches have three goals:
win
produce revenue
don't embarrass the school
The more of the second two you do the more latitude you get with the first. Suzy is the winningest coach in the history of the program, by far, and one of the best in the history of the conference. As far as the other stuff goes she has run a model program by any standard. Firing her and trying to find someone else to duplicate what she's done is a huge risk.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 26, 2014, 06:11:36 PM
That said, I suspect Fritz is going to have to maintain this level through the remainder of the contract or she risks the "trajectory factor" (not gE'ing) in the Currie decision process (provided he's still around in 2016). I think that's pretty fair.
Post by: nicname on October 27, 2014, 12:01:04 AM
They assistants haven't changed for quite a while, since Justin Ingram left to become a head coach at Arkansas State.
Currie is smart enough of an athletic director to evaluate coaches on their own merits. He isn't going to make personnel decisions based on people pissed on a message board because they can't make clever posts to other message board posters. Volleyball, baseball, and wbb coaches have three goals:
win
produce revenue
don't embarrass the school
The more of the second two you do the more latitude you get with the first. Suzy is the winningest coach in the history of the program, by far, and one of the best in the history of the conference. As far as the other stuff goes she has run a model program by any standard. Firing her and trying to find someone else to duplicate what she's done is a huge risk.
Yeah, the winning is back for the foreseeable future and the second two she's had locked in for a long time.
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Post by: slobber on November 01, 2014, 03:33:28 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: pissclams on November 01, 2014, 07:27:39 PM
Post by: nicname on November 05, 2014, 11:24:00 PM
A lot of unforced errors after ISU scrapped for longer rallies. Their at Texas on Friday after just a day's rest, so I would expect another loss there. K-State hasn't won a set against the Longhorns since 2011, so just taking a set from UT would be quite an accomplishment.
It will be interesting how the Rankings and RPI view this week.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 05, 2014, 11:51:22 PM
Post by: nicname on November 06, 2014, 12:04:16 AM
Couldn't put the ball down tonight, just like Saturday. As bad as ISU has been this year their only conference home loss is to UT. Thankfully OU lost to TCU tonight.
Yuck, .217 is misleading. Putrid in the last two sets.
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Post by: MakeItRain on December 05, 2014, 06:05:55 PM
Seems like Suzie teams always sputter out midseason and nose dive. :flush:
Well that was totally crap :flush:
there's no evidence to back up this claim though
Post by: slobber on December 05, 2014, 06:09:39 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: sunny_cat on December 05, 2014, 06:09:40 PM
Past few years have felt like this to me. :dunno:Seems like Suzie teams always sputter out midseason and nose dive. :flush:
Well that was totally crap :flush:
there's no evidence to back up this claim though
Post by: MakeItRain on December 05, 2014, 06:30:44 PM
Past few years have felt like this to me. :dunno:Seems like Suzie teams always sputter out midseason and nose dive. :flush:
Well that was totally crap :flush:
there's no evidence to back up this claim though
This year and last year for sure. Two seasons ago, when we beat Nebraska in the tourney we played well to finish the season. Not counting the years we didn't make the tournament when we were bad throughout these last two seasons are the only ones we limped to the finish after a strong start. Don't get me wrong though, these last two years have been awful finishes.
Post by: 'taterblast on December 05, 2014, 06:35:58 PM
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Post by: nicname on December 08, 2014, 04:46:33 AM
They lost an HM all conference middle blocker in Jones, who basically came out of nowhere to be good, a pretty good all-around player in Keating, quality depth out back in Madonia, and Taylor Johnson, who in my opinion just couldn't adjust to the increased offensive tempo enough to get on the court. Come to think of it that probably had a lot to do with Jones' success this season.
Brand, Kober, Reininger, Zumach, and maybe even Sassin are all more talented than anyone they lost, and all of them should be in Manhattan for at least the next two seasons. Zarda, Vogel, are decent, and are both young. Hell everyone is young.
They will have two seniors next season. Dallas Gardner, a walk-on and Mary Alice O'reilly a 6-3 opposite who I think is redshirting after being all conference in the WAC.
They are bringing in a couple of All-Americans from small Kansas towns, but I've got no clue how good they'll be. I've heard from multiple people that 2012 and 2013 were littered with team cancers, and have heard players allude to as much without naming names multiple times this season.
They should be trending up. I have no clue how high that might be, but I think Fritz and her staff are rejuvenated. I thought she might be done after last season. She seemed run down. I don't get that sense anymore.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 18, 2014, 08:07:36 PM
Post by: salcat on July 28, 2015, 11:34:52 PM
Gained a 6'3 MB/OH Hungarian. Suzie needs to bring in a DS I think since Zarda left.
Post by: nicname on July 28, 2015, 11:48:29 PM
Sassin, Reininger, Zumach
Should be pretty sick.
Post by: Trim on August 12, 2015, 10:15:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIKDnRnpDYI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAjkDt-JSTo
Appreciate most of the Massey stuff though.
Post by: Canary on August 12, 2015, 09:23:23 PM
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Post by: bones129 on August 13, 2015, 12:13:23 AM
I hope to get to a few matches this season.
This is a good idea.
Post by: Trim on August 23, 2015, 10:25:12 AM
Post by: Trim on August 27, 2015, 09:20:08 AM
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2. They’re Fun
All it takes is a few minutes with this year’s Wildcat volleyball team and they’ll have you smiling and laughing. From the youngest to the oldest players, the group is made up of a plethora of unique, giddy and fun-loving personalities.
Need proof? You can click here to watch the 'Alyssa & Kylee Show,' put together by K-StateHD.TV – I can guarantee it’ll put a smile on your face.
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Also I'm excited to listen to us kick some Florida A&M dick in tomorrow, and watch us kick some Hurricane dick in on Saturday :excited:
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I hope to get to a few matches this season.I usually make at least one game a year
Post by: Canary on August 29, 2015, 10:27:12 PM
Maybe we will be at a game at the same time. Wouldn't know it, though.I hope to get to a few matches this season.I usually make at least one game a year
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Ladies in a great match with Cal right now.
Score?
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 14, 2015, 11:03:17 AM
We'll know a lot in a week or so.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 14, 2015, 01:07:17 PM
Wisconsin, Arkansas, Creighton, Kansas coming up . . .
We'll know a lot in a week or so.
Sorta, kinda. She'll still play with the lineup quite a bit in the next few matches. She never settles the 8 player rotation until conference play starts.
Post by: bones129 on September 14, 2015, 11:49:05 PM
I don't know, bones. I haven't bought because my evenings are sometimes taken with work events, and I travel with others on Saturdays for football games. I think they will be good this year and even better next year; no seniors.
Thanks, Canary. I think we may go ahead and buy them.
Post by: Canary on September 15, 2015, 08:29:20 AM
Great. I still hope to get to some games.I don't know, bones. I haven't bought because my evenings are sometimes taken with work events, and I travel with others on Saturdays for football games. I think they will be good this year and even better next year; no seniors.
Thanks, Canary. I think we may go ahead and buy them.
Post by: sunny_cat on September 20, 2015, 04:50:10 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 20, 2015, 05:38:07 PM
Wisconsin, Arkansas, Creighton, Kansas coming up . . .
We'll know a lot in a week or so.
Sorta, kinda. She'll still play with the lineup quite a bit in the next few matches. She never settles the 8 player rotation until conference play starts.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2015, 08:38:36 PM
Post by: Canary on September 23, 2015, 09:39:16 PM
4 straight losses. #moI didn't know ku was still undefeated and highly ranked. Still hate losing anything to them.
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Post by: bones129 on September 24, 2015, 12:45:40 AM
4 straight losses. #moI didn't know ku was still undefeated and highly ranked. Still hate losing anything to them.
Hawk volleyball is definitely better than Hawk football and probably draws more actual attendees considering KU's football attendance figures (tix sold, not who shows up). #JayhawkProud
Post by: MakeItRain on September 24, 2015, 01:54:18 AM
Nobody probably knows who she is but is freshman middle blocker Macy Flowers going to play this year? She's been hurt.
Macy will redshirt this season.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 24, 2015, 01:56:35 AM
4 straight losses. #moI didn't know ku was still undefeated and highly ranked. Still hate losing anything to them.
Hawk volleyball is definitely better than Hawk football and probably draws more actual attendees considering KU's football attendance figures (tix sold, not who shows up). #JayhawkProud
I thought we played fairly well tonight. This is perhaps the best team that KU has ever had, they're pretty good.
Also Kylee Zumach had surgery earlier today, Wednesday.
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Post by: pissclams on September 24, 2015, 08:17:20 AM
Fire Suziei know this is a prank post but i'll respond-
until our AD shows a real commitment to our volleyball program, we will not find the consistency that we all want. fritz has done a commendable job when considering what she's been given to work with.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 24, 2015, 09:00:40 AM
I'd love to see a total sports complex with a new indoor track venue and a new volleyball venue, but that's going to take up the beloved parking which some people have some sort of sick infatuation with. To do something like that is going to cost tens of millions of dollars.
Post by: pissclams on September 24, 2015, 09:11:28 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 24, 2015, 10:03:31 AM
Currie wants to build them a practice facility near Bramlage, and they should just move to Bramlage for games. I know MIR gets all whack-a-doodle about that, but the only other choice is to build a new indoor track facility and turn Ahearn completely over to volleyball, or build volleyball their own arena. To do that right will take a lot of money and sorry, they just haven't been that good to justify that kind of expenditure. I watched some of LSU Arkansas last night from LSU and looked like LSU does some things to cozy up their basketball arena for volleyball matches. Florida State V-ball plays in some crackerbox gym. KU is good and Horejesi (sp?) is just some tin shed high school gym.
I'd love to see a total sports complex with a new indoor track venue and a new volleyball venue, but that's going to take up the beloved parking which some people have some sort of sick infatuation with. To do something like that is going to cost tens of millions of dollars.
I would love for us to play in a facility like Horejsi. It lacks character but it is dedicated and it is a loud bandbox when they have KSU or UT in there, they don't care otherwise. Building a cozy 5000 seat facility at the sports complex would be best. It would obviously be limestone and have some character instead of being a metal outbuilding like Horejsi is. Until that happens we need to stay at Ahearn. I can't stand Ahearn but it is waaaaayyyy better than playing in Bramlage.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 25, 2015, 01:01:25 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2015, 06:49:22 PM
Ahearn is louder than the shed.
Nope
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2015, 06:54:07 PM
On K-States instagram it said the next home match is October 10 in Bramlage. Why?
That's what they're doing with wildcat weekends (football and volleyball at home) this season, and I hate it. They did it earlier in the season against UNLV and the crowd was big but very quiet in what was a fun match. I'm assuming they're doing this to potentially test a permanent move, gross if so.
Post by: nicname on September 27, 2015, 07:01:00 PM
Ahearn is louder than the shed.
Nope
I imagine we've both been there. Must be difference of opinion.
Post by: salcat on September 30, 2015, 04:57:56 PM
Post by: bones129 on October 01, 2015, 12:25:28 AM
Well next two home matches are at Bramlage including Texas.
I will be there. Also have been at Ahearn for VB games. Will report on the comparo.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 01, 2015, 08:17:00 PM
Well next two home matches are at Bramlage including Texas.
I will be there. Also have been at Ahearn for VB games. Will report on the comparo.
No need, I've already told you. I've seen every kstate volleyball match ever played in Bramlage and they've all sucked despite playing against good opponents more often than most and winning all of them.
Post by: bones129 on October 02, 2015, 01:20:19 AM
Well next two home matches are at Bramlage including Texas.
I will be there. Also have been at Ahearn for VB games. Will report on the comparo.
No need, I've already told you. I've seen every kstate volleyball match ever played in Bramlage and they've all sucked despite playing against good opponents more often than most and winning all of them.
OK. Frankly, I want to see the VB games remain at Ahearn. Give that historic building a reason to exist, and I also like the VB atmosphere there. But willing to see what the turnout is at Bramlage, although I expect it may be the same as far as attendance goes, but not the same as far as acoustics and atmosphere goes. I favor Ahearn. Have a good night.
Post by: pissclams on October 02, 2015, 08:58:24 AM
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Post by: salcat on October 05, 2015, 04:14:35 PM
Nobody probably knows who she is but is freshman middle blocker Macy Flowers going to play this year? She's been hurt.
Macy will redshirt this season.
She played Saturday at TCU.
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 05, 2015, 09:12:34 PM
Nobody probably knows who she is but is freshman middle blocker Macy Flowers going to play this year? She's been hurt.
Macy will redshirt this season.
She played Saturday at TCU.
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Yeah saw that, really late in the season to see her first action, the season is half way over. Didn't see the match but her numbers looked good. I will see the ladies twice this week, looking forward to it. I'll give you a full report on Macy on Wednesday night.
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Post by: wazucat on October 08, 2015, 04:03:24 PM
Nobody probably knows who she is but is freshman middle blocker Macy Flowers going to play this year? She's been hurt.
Macy will redshirt this season.
She played Saturday at TCU.
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Yeah saw that, really late in the season to see her first action, the season is half way over. Didn't see the match but her numbers looked good. I will see the ladies twice this week, looking forward to it. I'll give you a full report on Macy on Wednesday night.
:impatient:
Post by: Canary on October 08, 2015, 05:48:25 PM
This team seems to be underachieving. Hope they can turn it around.I think they are underachieving too. I thought they would be better than this.
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 11, 2015, 08:46:55 PM
As for Macy, not much to say. She didn't appear to be terribly involved but that can happen with middle hitters, especially if the team isn't passing well. The coaches seem to believe in her, they coach her very hard on the court which is expected being that she's a freshman and she nearly missed the first two months of the season.
I'm looking forward to read bones' summary of crap volleyball in Bramlage. Speaking of volleyball in basketball arenas, Iowa State had 46 people in the student section for our match, literally 46, four of them standing. I took a picture but dumbass Tapatalk wouldn't load it.
Post by: salcat on October 16, 2015, 10:38:02 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 16, 2015, 02:40:41 PM
OU is better than their record..
We'll agree to disagree, they seem waaaayyyy down this yeat.
Post by: pissclams on October 16, 2015, 07:39:27 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 21, 2015, 07:41:20 PM
Talked to a AAA source on Sunday who told me two ladies currently playing at other B12 schools, ranked programs. Both were 98% in the bag for KState and Susie absolutely blew it.
Post by: bones129 on October 25, 2015, 12:10:14 AM
Post by: salcat on October 26, 2015, 03:21:42 PM
@WVU
TCU at home
Tech at home
OU at home
Post by: MakeItRain on October 26, 2015, 05:32:25 PM
Post by: bones129 on October 29, 2015, 01:33:32 AM
BTW, The Bram (or whatever it should be called) is no place for WVB. And FWIW, it is no longer the OOD, but you all knew that.
Post by: Canary on October 29, 2015, 07:33:26 AM
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Post by: Canary on November 18, 2015, 09:22:33 PM
Won their 6th straight tonight, 17-8 overall and 9-4 in the Big 12. Let's get Suzie a 10 year extension for turning this year around.It is pretty impressive. I thought they were going to be great, then terrible, and now pretty good. Third place in conference with three matches left. If they win two more I think they get into the tourney.
Post by: TownieCat on November 18, 2015, 09:32:34 PM
Won their 6th straight tonight, 17-8 overall and 9-4 in the Big 12. Let's get Suzie a 10 year extension for turning this year around.It is pretty impressive. I thought they were going to be great, then terrible, and now pretty good. Third place in conference with three matches left. If they win two more I think they get into the tourney.
The KU match next Wednesday is huge.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 18, 2015, 10:50:19 PM
Won their 6th straight tonight, 17-8 overall and 9-4 in the Big 12. Let's get Suzie a 10 year extension for turning this year around.It is pretty impressive. I thought they were going to be great, then terrible, and now pretty good. Third place in conference with three matches left. If they win two more I think they get into the tourney.
The KU match next Wednesday is huge.
Yeah, for seeding. We're in, easily right now somewhere around a 7-10 seed. ISU is 21st in the RPI, our next two matches are against the RPI #2 and #5 teams. We aren't beating KU but that's fine, they're a final four contender. We've had a very good season with a very young team.
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 29, 2015, 11:25:57 PM
Post by: joda on November 30, 2015, 12:26:27 AM
We should be able to handle Wichita State. I've bitched about this a million times but the NCAA's insistence on putting these teams in the same pod over and over is complete bullshit.
KState vs Wichita State with the winner facing Nebraska can almost be penciled in every year at this point
Post by: bones129 on November 30, 2015, 12:36:21 AM
Post by: Gooch on December 02, 2015, 05:05:35 PM
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Post by: sunny_cat on December 04, 2015, 04:36:23 PM
Post by: Canary on December 04, 2015, 04:39:55 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 04, 2015, 05:01:41 PM
I was hoping to watch. Will just have to listen
Supposed to be free on ncaa.com and the ncaa app, not sure why it isn't working
Post by: Canary on December 04, 2015, 05:26:39 PM
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Post by: 'taterblast on December 04, 2015, 07:34:23 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on December 04, 2015, 07:40:56 PM
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Post by: sunny_cat on December 04, 2015, 07:43:23 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 04, 2015, 09:39:04 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 05, 2015, 09:45:38 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 05, 2015, 10:41:08 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on December 05, 2015, 10:57:16 AM
Post by: wetwillie on December 05, 2015, 11:24:11 AM
What does she have to do to get fired?
her seat is colder than ice
Post by: MakeItRain on December 05, 2015, 05:26:57 PM
What does she have to do to get fired?
Same as any other Olympics sports coach; embarrass the school or be a habitual loser. She hasn't done either and she won't do either.
Post by: TownieCat on December 11, 2015, 09:23:06 AM
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Kansas State athletic director John Currie says the school is working on a contract extension for volleyball coach Suzie Fritz.
Fritz has led the Wildcats’ volleyball team since 2001, winning 295 games and making 11 NCAA Tournaments. K-State is coming off a 17-win campaign in which it posted a winning conference record without a single senior on the roster.
The season ended with a loss to Wichita State in the NCAA Tournament.
Currie said he is proud of the work Fritz has put in and is eager to see what she can do next season, and beyond, with a young team returning.
“She has done a tremendous job,” Currie said. “We look forward to her continued success with the K-State volleyball team.”
Post by: bones129 on December 12, 2015, 01:41:33 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article48840450.html (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article48840450.html)QuoteKansas State athletic director John Currie says the school is working on a contract extension for volleyball coach Suzie Fritz.
Fritz has led the Wildcats’ volleyball team since 2001, winning 295 games and making 11 NCAA Tournaments. K-State is coming off a 17-win campaign in which it posted a winning conference record without a single senior on the roster.
The season ended with a loss to Wichita State in the NCAA Tournament.
Currie said he is proud of the work Fritz has put in and is eager to see what she can do next season, and beyond, with a young team returning.
“She has done a tremendous job,” Currie said. “We look forward to her continued success with the K-State volleyball team.”
We shall see.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 12, 2015, 11:27:12 AM
UT and KU are in the elite 8 tonight.
Post by: sunny_cat on December 12, 2015, 11:33:07 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 12, 2015, 03:50:33 PM
What does she have to do to get fired?
Same as any other Olympics sports coach; embarrass the school or be a habitual loser. She hasn't done either and she won't do either.
Can't we get same mediocre results for much less $?
Post by: MakeItRain on December 12, 2015, 05:11:14 PM
What does she have to do to get fired?
Same as any other Olympics sports coach; embarrass the school or be a habitual loser. She hasn't done either and she won't do either.
Can't we get same mediocre results for much less $?
I mean if you consider winning 20 matches every year and making the tournament every 4 out of 5 years mediocre all while being the like 5th or 6th highest paid coach in the conference then go ahead and fire her and see if you can find someone else who is essentially volleyball Frank Martin.
Incidentally she is 2nd all time in Big 12 wins and has more tournament appearances in 15 seasons than every other school does all-time excluding Texas. She has more Big 12 wins than Ray Bechard and he's been in the conference 5 seasons longer and she has more NCAA appearances and he's only been a head coach since she was 13 years old.
Post by: joda on December 12, 2015, 06:46:44 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 13, 2015, 05:34:48 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 13, 2015, 05:35:53 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2015, 02:18:25 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2015, 02:21:24 PM
I've always been under the impression Volleyball is one of our more successful non revenue sports :dunno:
Easily the most successful without argument.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 13, 2015, 05:15:13 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on December 13, 2015, 05:35:56 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2015, 07:45:39 PM
MIR should I have any reason to think K-State vball will go to the E8 or F4 next year? If no then I don't think Suzy > Ray. It's a what have you done for me lately business.
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WTF? That's the stupidest crap I've ever seen in my life and you're better than that.
First of all outside of Texas, Penn State, USC, Florida, and Nebraska no program should be expecting the elite eight or final four. Kansas was not ranked in the preseason polls and were picked to finish fourth in the conference. They had a great year, but let's not get stupid. Did you miss my note about Suzie having more conference wins than Bechard despite the fact he's been in the conference four more years? Goddamn scott, grats, of all the stupid crap I've read on here your post wins first place. So I have to think you're in favor of TCU firing Sweaty Gary to hire Gene Chizik. Jesus Christ, never ever ever ever be someone who hires and fires for a living. WOW.
Post by: scottwildcat on December 13, 2015, 08:35:28 PM
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Post by: sunny_cat on December 13, 2015, 08:43:38 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2015, 08:54:29 PM
Scott, I'm gonna rough ridin' fight you next March, assface :curse:
Post by: scottwildcat on December 13, 2015, 08:55:20 PM
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Post by: sunny_cat on December 13, 2015, 10:04:39 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 13, 2015, 10:20:42 PM
This is why John Currie hammers home family, and world class student athlete experience, everything to avoid talking about actually winning at a high level.
Next up que MIR rant about money and stuff . . . well, prove that your worth making the investment in.
Post by: wetwillie on December 13, 2015, 10:29:26 PM
Post by: The Big Train on December 13, 2015, 10:30:30 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 13, 2015, 10:56:10 PM
I love it when Dax puts non revenue sports on trial. No one is safe from scrutiny.
Family, World Class Student Athlete Experience. It's the entire athletic department, not just one sport.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 13, 2015, 11:22:04 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 14, 2015, 05:45:41 AM
This is about Kstate and John Currie's love of mediocrity. For the 3rd straight year they'll like be zero conference titles. This year is a minor bowl game for football, a half a cup of coffee for volleyball in the NCAA tourney, the NIT and WNIT in all probability, and bottom dwelling efforts from the rest of the men's sports. Possibly something interesting from women's track.
Yay!
Post by: BMWWcat on December 17, 2015, 03:30:03 PM
The lack of something elite happening for any of the teams is beyond frustrating...
Post by: MakeItRain on December 17, 2015, 03:31:33 PM
Post by: ednksu on December 18, 2015, 11:12:57 AM
But besides that point, go horns, great to see Nub fans rooting so hard against them in ses 1 last night.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 18, 2015, 11:42:03 AM
I appreciate a level headed check on what we *are* doing, but we are limiting what we *can* do, especially with a coach that has proven she is a middle of the pack, 1st or 2nd round NCAA coach. Yeah we aren't going to go back to the path McLaughlin had us on, but we know that Suzi isn't going to get us much success. Grats on the regular season record moral victory, but at some point it's K-state0 to harp on that crap instead of looking at tournament results.
But besides that point, go horns, great to see Nub fans rooting so hard against them in ses 1 last night.
What the eff are you talking about man, this is exactly the path that McLaughlin had us on, Jim Moore too. This program, for better or worse, has been amazingly steady for three coaches over the last 20 seasons. It's ironic that you brought up Jim McLaughlin, do you know why he left? I do and I heard it right out of his mouth. He left a school with 5 straight NCAA appearances and at the time was undoubtedly the second best volleyball school in the Big 12 conference, to what was undoubtedly the worst in the Pac 10.
Post by: BMWWcat on December 18, 2015, 12:07:27 PM
It seems like we (k-state) canot get out of our own way.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 18, 2015, 01:04:04 PM
It seems like we (k-state) canot get out of our own way.
Dude, what are you talking about with this get out of our own way stuff? We've been to the NCAA tournament 16 out of the last 20 years. Since the Big 12 started play in 1996, there have been 14 schools that have competed in the conference, only 3 of them have won a conference championship, THREE; Nebraska, Texas, and K-State. That's less than extremely top heavy men's and women's basketball. I have no idea what more you guys want. Tournament success for a program like K-State in volleyball is even more tenuous than in basketball. The NCAA tournament is played on home courts and the same big schools are going to get those advantages. We don't have teams that can go to Nebraska or to Washington and beat those teams, we just don't. What we do have is one of the best, most consistent 25 programs in the country that makes the tournament every year, finishes in the top 25 of attendance, produces a ridiculous amount of academic all conference and all americans, doesn't embarrass the school, and pulls in a decent amount of revenue.
You guys stop being so owned by KU that one good tournament run by them has you completely freaked out and incapable of using logic and common sense. I'll put it in a college basketball way so maybe you guys can understand it better, would you rather have Gonzaga's basketball program or George Mason's? KU won two matches in San Diego last weekend, good for them, really. But winning those two matches is no reason for you clowns to crap all over the success we've had. Get a grip.
Post by: ednksu on December 18, 2015, 01:07:47 PM
I appreciate a level headed check on what we *are* doing, but we are limiting what we *can* do, especially with a coach that has proven she is a middle of the pack, 1st or 2nd round NCAA coach. Yeah we aren't going to go back to the path McLaughlin had us on, but we know that Suzi isn't going to get us much success. Grats on the regular season record moral victory, but at some point it's K-state0 to harp on that crap instead of looking at tournament results.
But besides that point, go horns, great to see Nub fans rooting so hard against them in ses 1 last night.
What the eff are you talking about man, this is exactly the path that McLaughlin had us on, Jim Moore too. This program, for better or worse, has been amazingly steady for three coaches over the last 20 seasons. It's ironic that you brought up Jim McLaughlin, do you know why he left? I do and I heard it right out of his mouth. He left a school with 5 straight NCAA appearances and at the time was undoubtedly the second best volleyball school in the Big 12 conference, to what was undoubtedly the worst in the Pac 10.
Yeah anyone who has followed VB knows why he left, this isn't insidery info. But you are 100% totally wrong about trajectory. His trajectory was not a mid level conference contender with a once in a decade conf title run. It's great that you bring up UW because it totally undercuts your point that K-State is on the same path now as what UW went on under McLauglin or even what McLaughlin was doing at K-State. His success was trending up, the team was looking up, and Fritz benefited from his players. If we take your position that UW was the worst, consider this, as you know, he has taken them to 3 PACs, 4 Final Fours, and a title (added bonus of 15 AAs and a NPOY in 2013). Instead we've got....1 conference title and a crap load of, to barrow Dax's phrase, cups of coffee at the dance with little else. So "steady" is one thing to call the program. Mired in average to slightly above average play is more accurate. Mclaughlin was building this program into something better and Fritz has taken it to a leveled-off trajectory that is nice for many, but disappointing for some. But this is the problem with K-State in many respects. We've been on the right path and had some unfortunate circumstances take us off course from really competing for titles (thinking WVB and MBB, hell 90s to 00s FB). But just because we have a "nice" program doesn't mean we should re-evaluate what the coach is actually doing to break through to that next level. We've been on the cusp of that in many sports, many times, and never put all the pieces together. At some point you have to break off a coach who is nice, and comforting to tucks, and push in a new direction, or you will always be the nice team, with nice facilities, and a nice record with little else.
Post by: ChiComCat on December 18, 2015, 03:23:44 PM
Post by: Gooch on December 18, 2015, 04:06:20 PM
Why did he leave?Brent Venables unspeakable sin.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 18, 2015, 04:39:57 PM
I appreciate a level headed check on what we *are* doing, but we are limiting what we *can* do, especially with a coach that has proven she is a middle of the pack, 1st or 2nd round NCAA coach. Yeah we aren't going to go back to the path McLaughlin had us on, but we know that Suzi isn't going to get us much success. Grats on the regular season record moral victory, but at some point it's K-state0 to harp on that crap instead of looking at tournament results.
But besides that point, go horns, great to see Nub fans rooting so hard against them in ses 1 last night.
What the eff are you talking about man, this is exactly the path that McLaughlin had us on, Jim Moore too. This program, for better or worse, has been amazingly steady for three coaches over the last 20 seasons. It's ironic that you brought up Jim McLaughlin, do you know why he left? I do and I heard it right out of his mouth. He left a school with 5 straight NCAA appearances and at the time was undoubtedly the second best volleyball school in the Big 12 conference, to what was undoubtedly the worst in the Pac 10.
Yeah anyone who has followed VB knows why he left, this isn't insidery info. But you are 100% totally wrong about trajectory. His trajectory was not a mid level conference contender with a once in a decade conf title run. It's great that you bring up UW because it totally undercuts your point that K-State is on the same path now as what UW went on under McLauglin or even what McLaughlin was doing at K-State. His success was trending up, the team was looking up, and Fritz benefited from his players. If we take your position that UW was the worst, consider this, as you know, he has taken them to 3 PACs, 4 Final Fours, and a title (added bonus of 15 AAs and a NPOY in 2013). Instead we've got....1 conference title and a crap load of, to barrow Dax's phrase, cups of coffee at the dance with little else. So "steady" is one thing to call the program. Mired in average to slightly above average play is more accurate. Mclaughlin was building this program into something better and Fritz has taken it to a leveled-off trajectory that is nice for many, but disappointing for some. But this is the problem with K-State in many respects. We've been on the right path and had some unfortunate circumstances take us off course from really competing for titles (thinking WVB and MBB, hell 90s to 00s FB). But just because we have a "nice" program doesn't mean we should re-evaluate what the coach is actually doing to break through to that next level. We've been on the cusp of that in many sports, many times, and never put all the pieces together. At some point you have to break off a coach who is nice, and comforting to tucks, and push in a new direction, or you will always be the nice team, with nice facilities, and a nice record with little else.
Okay so you used all of those words to say that you don't know why he left. He left because even though Washington was a dead ass program at the time he felt like that program had a better chance of success. They had a bigger budget, better geography, and did not have Nebraska and Texas to butt heads with. In simpler language he felt he had plateaued and Washington offered a better chance for loftier successes.
I never said or hinted that K-State was on the same path as Washington, I'm not sure what you read that lead you to think that. And no Suzie's greatest successes did not come with McLaughlin's players. She was the lead assistant on his teams and of the five best players on that team I can say for a fact that three of them; Lauren Goering, Vali Hejjas, and Gabby Guerre were recruited by Suzie when she was the assistant recruiting them or the head coach. I'm fairly sure that Jeff Grove recruited Laura Downey as well. I have no idea about Lisa Martin although I'd bet she was also recruited by Suzie given that her and Lauren was from the same area.
I don't give a crap about how nice Suzie is or isn't, I don't owe her a damn thing. What I do care about is that she has a direct tie to all but one of our tournament appearances in the history of the school and the only conference championship. When you're running an olympic sport you don't fire one of the winningest coaches in the history of the sport in hopes that you may find someone that can possibly win a few more matches in December, that's patently dumb, so dumb in fact that I am not going to talk about this anymore. Suzie has as much of a chance of getting fired as I do in being her replacement. I've wasted too much time on this stupid crap.
Post by: ednksu on December 18, 2015, 05:06:26 PM
I appreciate a level headed check on what we *are* doing, but we are limiting what we *can* do, especially with a coach that has proven she is a middle of the pack, 1st or 2nd round NCAA coach. Yeah we aren't going to go back to the path McLaughlin had us on, but we know that Suzi isn't going to get us much success. Grats on the regular season record moral victory, but at some point it's K-state0 to harp on that crap instead of looking at tournament results.
But besides that point, go horns, great to see Nub fans rooting so hard against them in ses 1 last night.
What the eff are you talking about man, this is exactly the path that McLaughlin had us on, Jim Moore too. This program, for better or worse, has been amazingly steady for three coaches over the last 20 seasons. It's ironic that you brought up Jim McLaughlin, do you know why he left? I do and I heard it right out of his mouth. He left a school with 5 straight NCAA appearances and at the time was undoubtedly the second best volleyball school in the Big 12 conference, to what was undoubtedly the worst in the Pac 10.
Yeah anyone who has followed VB knows why he left, this isn't insidery info. But you are 100% totally wrong about trajectory. His trajectory was not a mid level conference contender with a once in a decade conf title run. It's great that you bring up UW because it totally undercuts your point that K-State is on the same path now as what UW went on under McLauglin or even what McLaughlin was doing at K-State. His success was trending up, the team was looking up, and Fritz benefited from his players. If we take your position that UW was the worst, consider this, as you know, he has taken them to 3 PACs, 4 Final Fours, and a title (added bonus of 15 AAs and a NPOY in 2013). Instead we've got....1 conference title and a crap load of, to barrow Dax's phrase, cups of coffee at the dance with little else. So "steady" is one thing to call the program. Mired in average to slightly above average play is more accurate. Mclaughlin was building this program into something better and Fritz has taken it to a leveled-off trajectory that is nice for many, but disappointing for some. But this is the problem with K-State in many respects. We've been on the right path and had some unfortunate circumstances take us off course from really competing for titles (thinking WVB and MBB, hell 90s to 00s FB). But just because we have a "nice" program doesn't mean we should re-evaluate what the coach is actually doing to break through to that next level. We've been on the cusp of that in many sports, many times, and never put all the pieces together. At some point you have to break off a coach who is nice, and comforting to tucks, and push in a new direction, or you will always be the nice team, with nice facilities, and a nice record with little else.
Okay so you used all of those words to say that you don't know why he left. He left because even though Washington was a dead ass program at the time he felt like that program had a better chance of success. They had a bigger budget, better geography, and did not have Nebraska and Texas to butt heads with. In simpler language he felt he had plateaued and Washington offered a better chance for loftier successes.
I never said or hinted that K-State was on the same path as Washington, I'm not sure what you read that lead you to think that. And no Suzie's greatest successes did not come with McLaughlin's players. She was the lead assistant on his teams and of the five best players on that team I can say for a fact that three of them; Lauren Goering, Vali Hejjas, and Gabby Guerre were recruited by Suzie when she was the assistant recruiting them or the head coach. I'm fairly sure that Jeff Grove recruited Laura Downey as well. I have no idea about Lisa Martin although I'd bet she was also recruited by Suzie given that her and Lauren was from the same area.
I don't give a crap about how nice Suzie is or isn't, I don't owe her a damn thing. What I do care about is that she has a direct tie to all but one of our tournament appearances in the history of the school and the only conference championship. When you're running an olympic sport you don't fire one of the winningest coaches in the history of the sport in hopes that you may find someone that can possibly win a few more matches in December, that's patently dumb, so dumb in fact that I am not going to talk about this anymore. Suzie has as much of a chance of getting fired as I do in being her replacement. I've wasted too much time on this stupid crap.
This is a lot of words for a nothing post.
First you can say what you want about the plateau of K-State and why he left. That doesn't square with your claims about results and trajectory. Second half the players you mentioned were recruited under his watch. It's great they kept Suzie to keep continuity. No one is arguing against that. But 2003 had a lot of his players on it, so the point is fairly moot. You can't credit Frank's run without at least mentioning Huggins, and by your logic you dismiss that connection.
Third, I have no idea what you're talking about her being nice and owing anyone anything. I mean you jumped the shark here. The point about it being a "nice" program (go back and read how I used nice) is that it's just that, nice. Nothing to get too excited about, and a passing afterthought when the program is down (like it has been for 5 years). I'm sorry, I don't think bottom half is acceptable for K-State in this conference. If you do, fine. Getting a ticket to the NCAAs and getting beat the eff down (3-1, 3-0 at rough ridin' home, 3-0) is acceptable for you, and a lot of other fans, fine. It's not acceptable for me. For sure we can't change out Olympic coaches on a whim. And you must give them time to develop their players, their system, their recruiting strategies. Here is what we know. Undeniably we are in a downward trend with her at the helm. There have been some years where you have legit excuses (what was it, 2012 or 13 where half the team was dead from injuries for the year?) How much of a track record do you need before you make a move? It sucks when you have to put a coach out that has meant a lot to a program, but it is done often, and across all sports when there is a downward trend and little being done to correct it. You have a hard on for Suzie and that's fine. But you're letting your personal bias effect how you see this program. Would you keep a coach in an easier league (Nubs is gone after all) who is winning less in conference, going to the dance less, and when they do make it are getting destroyed (sometimes on the home court) over nearly a decade trend? Now no one is saying she is on the hot seat, but that doesn't change whether or not she should be feeling some heat.
Post by: BMWWcat on December 19, 2015, 08:30:16 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 20, 2015, 08:05:42 PM
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Post by: Tobias on August 21, 2016, 10:37:14 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on August 21, 2016, 10:58:16 AM
I actually posted that thinking MIR would respond. He did not. Le sad.
Sorry, yeah they were a juggernaut last year, you could have made the argument that they and UT were the two best teams in the country. We can talk later about the lunacy of the NCAA continuing to allow Nebraska to play home matches throughout the NCAA tournament, including the final four. They'll be good again though not as good but that certainly can't be expected.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 22, 2016, 05:57:22 AM
In terms of KState, I'm hoping for a raising trajectory.
Post by: MakeItRain on August 26, 2016, 11:38:47 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 27, 2016, 11:30:00 AM
Post by: Canary on August 27, 2016, 10:02:17 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on August 28, 2016, 02:38:26 AM
Good thing we didn't fire Suzie because KU was better than us last year, huh guys?
Post by: cfbandyman on August 28, 2016, 04:48:26 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 03, 2016, 12:40:09 AM
Post by: Canary on September 03, 2016, 10:33:37 PM
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Post by: Canary on September 21, 2016, 12:51:57 PM
Post by: pissclams on September 21, 2016, 01:22:52 PM
no coverage for tonight
Post by: MakeItRain on September 21, 2016, 04:13:12 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 21, 2016, 11:36:40 PM
Pretty annoyed that the soccer and volleyball matches are at the same time on Sunday. I'm going to guess K-State asked that the volleyball match be moved to Saturday bit either UT or the Big 12 said no. That being said It's also unfortunate the soccer match couldn't start at noon or the volleyball match start at 3.
Never mind, would not have guessed the schedule would be wrong on the official K-State app, but here we are
Post by: Tobias on September 21, 2016, 11:53:52 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 26, 2016, 06:13:59 AM
Post by: pissclams on October 04, 2016, 07:39:21 PM
Post by: Chingon on October 04, 2016, 07:42:38 PM
why are none of our games on television anymore?Lame stream media
Post by: Trim on October 06, 2016, 11:37:21 AM
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Fritz, in her 16th year as K-State’s head coach, likens Reininger to Tigger off of “Winnie the Pooh.” Not only is she cheerful and outgoing, she’s also 100 percent comfortable in her skin.
“Her optimism, her positivity, she just exudes those qualities. She’s our Tigger,” Fritz said. “At first you wonder if that’s real, and then she does it every day for four years. Her ability to make people feel good about being alive and her ability to bring joy to all phases of our lives is pretty unique and pretty special.”
http://www.kstatesports.com/news/se-reininger-finds-balance-in-life-on-volleyball-court-at-k-state-10-05-2016
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 06, 2016, 11:42:59 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 06, 2016, 03:01:08 PM
oscar is like Super Ebola
Post by: MakeItRain on October 06, 2016, 04:12:12 PM
oscar is infecting our other non-revenue coaches now.
Suzie's a winner tho
Post by: SdK on October 12, 2016, 06:36:58 PM
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Post by: Canary on October 26, 2016, 08:32:36 PM
FUUUUUCCCCKKKKK :flush:Indeed! What a wreck that was.
Post by: salcat on October 26, 2016, 08:58:24 PM
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Post by: Gooch on October 27, 2016, 10:17:13 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 27, 2016, 10:18:19 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on October 27, 2016, 03:53:29 PM
Not being cute but how do you get seriously hurt in volleyball?
Been a few years since I played a lot indoor/court volleyball (I prefer sand/beach) I can tell you this: # Times I've been hurt playing sand volleyball: 2 and they both involved jamming the crap out of my hand so bad I couldn't write for like a week on a spike. # Times I've been hurt playing court? Like every rough ridin' time, I can't tell you how many sprains, ankle twists, knee bruises/elbow bruises I've had from diving or landing from a spike. If you actually play aggressive defense, you will absolutely hurt yourself. Hate giving up points to the other team just becuase you dont want to layout.
Post by: Gooch on October 27, 2016, 05:05:06 PM
Thanks for actually answering the question.Not being cute but how do you get seriously hurt in volleyball?
Been a few years since I played a lot indoor/court volleyball (I prefer sand/beach) I can tell you this: # Times I've been hurt playing sand volleyball: 2 and they both involved jamming the crap out of my hand so bad I couldn't write for like a week on a spike. # Times I've been hurt playing court? Like every rough ridin' time, I can't tell you how many sprains, ankle twists, knee bruises/elbow bruises I've had from diving or landing from a spike. If you actually play aggressive defense, you will absolutely hurt yourself. Hate giving up points to the other team just becuase you dont want to layout.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 28, 2016, 07:46:21 AM
Thanks for actually answering the question.Not being cute but how do you get seriously hurt in volleyball?
Been a few years since I played a lot indoor/court volleyball (I prefer sand/beach) I can tell you this: # Times I've been hurt playing sand volleyball: 2 and they both involved jamming the crap out of my hand so bad I couldn't write for like a week on a spike. # Times I've been hurt playing court? Like every rough ridin' time, I can't tell you how many sprains, ankle twists, knee bruises/elbow bruises I've had from diving or landing from a spike. If you actually play aggressive defense, you will absolutely hurt yourself. Hate giving up points to the other team just becuase you dont want to layout.
You were asking that question seriously? They're not rough ridin' sitting in chairs dude, it's a sport with explosive movements, you spend two hours using fast twitch muscle fibers. The injuries are exactly what they would be in basketball. Have you ever watched a volleyball game?
Post by: salcat on October 28, 2016, 04:08:44 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 28, 2016, 10:59:16 PM
Anyway..hope Reininger is back tomorrow vs Baylor. Sandbothe is an intriguing prospect though. Her sister is an All American at Ohio State.
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I thought she hit well but she was getting abused, badly by that ISU middle on those quicks. It seemed like they went to it every time they were in system.
Post by: Canary on October 29, 2016, 09:03:18 AM
That middle hitter was on. We never made an adjustment to that. Our block was slow to get there. I thought we seemed sluggish throughout the match, but with her it might just have been she was just too quick.Anyway..hope Reininger is back tomorrow vs Baylor. Sandbothe is an intriguing prospect though. Her sister is an All American at Ohio State.
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I thought she hit well but she was getting abused, badly by that ISU middle on those quicks. It seemed like they went to it every time they were in system.
Post by: Canary on October 29, 2016, 07:32:39 PM
And then gave up seven points in a row to lose the second set. Damn ugly last few minutes.
Kicked some ass in set 3 winning 25-13.
And avenge the earlier season loss to BU by winning set four 25-20.
Some good volleyball tonight.
Post by: BMWWcat on October 30, 2016, 03:22:57 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 30, 2016, 04:30:03 PM
saw that ku beat UT...now #1 in the conference :flush:
Tied for first. I trust that you'll be in Ahearn of Wednesday night for the biggest match the program has seen since Nebraska left the conference.
Post by: BMWWcat on October 31, 2016, 09:41:11 AM
Has anybody been to a soccer match yet? Was wondering how the facilities/atmosphere are.
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I'm hoping for a five- set match with the Cats winning it.
going into the 5th set :ksu: :pray: :crossfingers: :ksu:
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very, those service errors were brutalSorry, we posted about the same time about the service errors. I hate that. Just gifted a great KU team points instead of making them earn them.
Post by: pissclams on November 02, 2016, 09:37:18 PM
really could have used the confidence boost that beating #4 ku would have given us
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 03, 2016, 02:08:35 PM
They are going to make the tournament but I hope they aren't sent up to Nebraska again.I hope we are and I hope we kick their ass
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 03, 2016, 02:57:39 PM
They are going to make the tournament but I hope they aren't sent up to Nebraska again.
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Not as likely this time. If we would have won last night we would have almost been a lock to host, that's pretty much done now.
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Post by: pissclams on November 18, 2016, 09:05:35 AM
2 matches left, @ ut and home vs tech
currently 5th in conference behind flood aggie but they still have baylor, ku, and ou. baylor @ 4th still has ku, isu, and ou
Saturday's ut game is on the longhorn network fwiw
Post by: MakeItRain on November 18, 2016, 10:34:44 AM
3-1 win over ou on Wednesday
2 matches left, @ ut and home vs tech
currently 5th in conference behind flood aggie but they still have baylor, ku, and ou. baylor @ 4th still has ku, isu, and ou
Saturday's ut game is on the longhorn network fwiw
Unfortunately, because of the late season slide, we played ourselves right out of a decent seed. Now looking at another trip to Nebraska or Wisconsin or somewhere out west like Washington again. Mizzou looks like they may finish with a top 16 RPI, hopefully we get sent there.
Post by: pissclams on November 18, 2016, 11:06:45 AM
i kind of feel like we're playing above where we should be this season, i don't know if that's correct or not. it'd be nice to close out w/ 2 wins and hope to bump up a spot in the b12 standings + hit the ncaa's with some momentum
but ya, would love to go to Columbia rather than Lincoln or Seattle, though this team has a lot of potential
Post by: MakeItRain on November 18, 2016, 02:28:46 PM
we lost to tcu but other than that, the ku and isu losses are understandable
i kind of feel like we're playing above where we should be this season, i don't know if that's correct or not. it'd be nice to close out w/ 2 wins and hope to bump up a spot in the b12 standings + hit the ncaa's with some momentum
but ya, would love to go to Columbia rather than Lincoln or Seattle, though this team has a lot of potential
I think the ISU and KU matches are bad losses. We are absolutely better than ISU and the KU match is one you have to finish if you are a good team, we gave it away. They are mired in the same issue the football team is, we can't seem to beat anyone better than us. As far as expectations, we were picked to finish sixth in the preseason but that frankly was ridiculously low. We returned all seven starters from last season's team, that team should have finished third but they had one of the worst collapses ever. Like I said we haven't beaten anyone, in conference anyway, better than us but we've punted a couple so to me we haven't met a reasonable expectation. We have had some injuries but :dunno:
Post by: Canary on November 18, 2016, 02:53:13 PM
I agree. We collapsed in at least two matches this year, and maybe a third. I didn't expect that with the starting lineup returning, so it makes it disappointing. I thought the would challenge for the conference title.we lost to tcu but other than that, the ku and isu losses are understandable
i kind of feel like we're playing above where we should be this season, i don't know if that's correct or not. it'd be nice to close out w/ 2 wins and hope to bump up a spot in the b12 standings + hit the ncaa's with some momentum
but ya, would love to go to Columbia rather than Lincoln or Seattle, though this team has a lot of potential
I think the ISU and KU matches are bad losses. We are absolutely better than ISU and the KU match is one you have to finish if you are a good team, we gave it away. They are mired in the same issue the football team is, we can't seem to beat anyone better than us. As far as expectations, we were picked to finish sixth in the preseason but that frankly was ridiculously low. We returned all seven starters from last season's team, that team should have finished third but they had one of the worst collapses ever. Like I said we haven't beaten anyone, in conference anyway, better than us but we've punted a couple so to me we haven't met a reasonable expectation. We have had some injuries but :dunno:
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Post by: ednksu on November 22, 2016, 07:35:42 AM
Post by: pissclams on November 22, 2016, 08:01:51 AM
MiR, no trolling, you still feel like Suzie is the woman for the job? Has the state of the program done what you thought it needed to do over the last handful of years?
is there a comparison to be made between suz and deb? coach a middle of the pack team to a cup of coffee in the ncaa's every couple of years? i guess when you think about it, that same analogy could be used to describe any of our teams. a little bit above average/mediocre.
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MiR, no trolling, you still feel like Suzie is the woman for the job? Has the state of the program done what you thought it needed to do over the last handful of years?
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I appreciate a level headed check on what we *are* doing, but we are limiting what we *can* do, especially with a coach that has proven she is a middle of the pack, 1st or 2nd round NCAA coach. Yeah we aren't going to go back to the path McLaughlin had us on, but we know that Suzi isn't going to get us much success. Grats on the regular season record moral victory, but at some point it's K-state0 to harp on that crap instead of looking at tournament results.
But besides that point, go horns, great to see Nub fans rooting so hard against them in ses 1 last night.
I don't give a crap about how nice Suzie is or isn't, I don't owe her a damn thing. What I do care about is that she has a direct tie to all but one of our tournament appearances in the history of the school and the only conference championship. When you're running an olympic sport you don't fire one of the winningest coaches in the history of the sport in hopes that you may find someone that can possibly win a few more matches in December, that's patently dumb, so dumb in fact that I am not going to talk about this anymore. Suzie has as much of a chance of getting fired as I do in being her replacement. I've wasted too much time on this stupid crap.
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2016, 12:42:32 AM
Clams really crystallized some things here with that comparison to Deb. It's been another year, maybe MiR changed his mind or he has really liked what she has done. I haven't watched enough v-ball this year to comment. I know he does take a great interest in the program.
You can't be serious? Are you actually aware of the records of Suzie and Deb? There is no comparison, its actually laughable.
As far as what I think about Susie, there might be 5 Olympic sports team coaches in all of the NCAA that would feel any pressure at all with a record of 315-176 and 12 NCAA appearances in 16 years. Anyone who expects more than that from a non-revenue sport at a small budget school should be mercilessly mocked.
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Post by: pissclams on November 27, 2016, 12:56:54 AM
Clams really crystallized some things here with that comparison to Deb. It's been another year, maybe MiR changed his mind or he has really liked what she has done. I haven't watched enough v-ball this year to comment. I know he does take a great interest in the program.
You can't be serious? Are you actually aware of the records of Suzie and Deb? There is no comparison, its actually laughable.
As far as what I think about Susie, there might be 5 Olympic sports team coaches in all of the NCAA that would feel any pressure at all with a record of 315-176 and 12 NCAA appearances in 16 years. Anyone who expects more than that from a non-revenue sport at a small budget school should be mercilessly mocked.
i'm serious.
deb @ k-state 350-226 (.608)
suzie @ k-state 295-168 (.637)
that comparison is laughable to you? how weird.
one was fired for lack of performance, one was extended through 2020
i don't care about their comparative records though when, in totality, their results are the same.
like i said, slightly above average teams who have no real shot at any post-season success. a cup of coffee in the tournament and a sense of accomplishment for the plane ride home. seems to be the equal measure of both coaches.
i get the feeling that she's done everything that she's going to do at k-state, hope i'm wrong
Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2016, 02:00:19 AM
Clams really crystallized some things here with that comparison to Deb. It's been another year, maybe MiR changed his mind or he has really liked what she has done. I haven't watched enough v-ball this year to comment. I know he does take a great interest in the program.
You can't be serious? Are you actually aware of the records of Suzie and Deb? There is no comparison, its actually laughable.
As far as what I think about Susie, there might be 5 Olympic sports team coaches in all of the NCAA that would feel any pressure at all with a record of 315-176 and 12 NCAA appearances in 16 years. Anyone who expects more than that from a non-revenue sport at a small budget school should be mercilessly mocked.
i'm serious.
deb @ k-state 350-226 (.608)
suzie @ k-state 295-168 (.637)
that comparison is laughable to you? how weird.
one was fired for lack of performance, one was extended through 2020
i don't care about their comparative records though when, in totality, their results are the same.
like i said, slightly above average teams who have no real shot at any post-season success. a cup of coffee in the tournament and a sense of accomplishment for the plane ride home. seems to be the equal measure of both coaches.
i get the feeling that she's done everything that she's going to do at k-state, hope i'm wrong
I was the biggest Deb defender in the world but come on man, you're being intentionally obtuse. First of all Deb had other issues at K-State but if you completely ignore all of that Deb made the tournament only 9 out of 18 years. Deb finished in last place TWICE. Deb's final two years she was 30-37 and 10-26 coupled with a crap ton of defections. Suzie did have a similar two year stretch to that but it was because she had a ton of injuries and not because she was carrying a roster well short of the scholarship limit because she couldn't keep players in the program. Also unfortunately for Deb, that didn't constitute her worst stretch as a head coach, so yeah when you are asking why a coach who's last two years had a record of 30-37 doesn't meet the same fate as another coach who went 37-18 in the same stretch, I'm gonna laugh, a lot.
Maybe she has done everything she's going to do at K-State, find me 10 volleyball coaches that has done more in 16 seasons. She has the same amount of Big 12 championships as Ray Bechard has and he was her college coach. I'd sign up for 16 more years of exactly this from a volleyball program. I'm not willing to sacrifice consistent good for a couple of more December wins.
Post by: ednksu on November 27, 2016, 08:12:46 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2016, 07:05:33 PM
Hey MiR I appreciate your ardent support of our coaches. You and I might disagree on some of the non revenue sports but I know you are looking at it with a level head. It sounds like you don't think much has changed over the last few years with volleyball. I've gone on record with you before that I thought Deb should have been fired immediately when those allegations, and later exposé, came out back with our big 3. But besides that point we haven't been seeing the same kind of success as KU over the last few years. It's an interesting perspective that you bring where you look at totality and I'm probably looking at it more 'what have you done lately.' I just worry the lately has changed the expectation of this program to just being happy to make the NCAAs, ecstatic to host, and being in the top half, maybe top third of the conference. I think there are a lot of circumstances that are radically different than Deb and Susie. But it seems like Mittie has brought a lot of new energy to the wbb program. I'm just curious to see at what point you think we need a change just for changes sake, or if that is even a thing in your mind.
First of all, I was dead ass wrong about deb, 100%. I honestly think the only thing that has changed in regards to Suzie is KU making that final four last year. If that didn't happen the casual fan wouldn't think "they did it, why can't we?" That is a fair question to ask, but for me I wouldn't trade their two seasons for what we have had. And like I've said before, even if this is what she is you can't fire an Olympic coach for what she's done. Is it more likely that you get someone who makes the NCAA tournament 3 out of every 4 years or are you going to get someone who you'll need to fire in 5 years because of sagging performance and attendance. She shouldn't change a thing, we win and make money, that's enough for me.
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Until suzie starts rough ridin' her players, she shouldn't be compared to oddly christian fundamentalist lesbo dominatrix deb.
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The fightin' Marcus Fosters! Bye KU
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Post by: MakeItRain on December 02, 2016, 09:17:21 PM
As far as Creighton goes, they had to win twice tonight. In the fifth set KU appeared to hit a ball out that gave Creighton a 18-16 win. The up ref called the ball out and Creighton poured onto the court to celebrate. The ref did not scan his line judges before making his call and the line judge in front of KU's bench called a touch. Well the up ref calls both line judges over to him while Creighton is :party: their asses off and literally a minute after he called the ball out, the up ref called a touch, to make the score 17-17. Creighton finally won 20-18.
Post by: pissclams on December 02, 2016, 09:20:56 PM
Post by: Canary on December 02, 2016, 10:08:41 PM
Nice easy win for the Cats tonight. Worried about tomorrow, we haven't played the Big 10 worth a damn, like ever.I was sitting with a guy whose wife is a KU grad. When they won the fourth set he said it looked like KU would win since it went to a fifth set. The post game show is when I heard they lost.
As far as Creighton goes, they had to win twice tonight. In the fifth set KU appeared to hit a ball out that gave Creighton a 18-16 win. The up ref called the ball out and Creighton poured onto the court to celebrate. The ref did not scan his line judges before making his call and the line judge in front of KU's bench called a touch. Well the up ref calls both line judges over to him while Creighton is :party: their asses off and literally a minute after he called the ball out, the up ref called a touch, to make the score 17-17. Creighton finally won 20-18.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 03, 2016, 10:48:57 AM
But, KU finished last year in the red on an operational basis (again) and no one showed up at the Sprint Center for their bball game (but they OWN Kansas City) so they probably couldn't afford to lose the revenue of the bball game.
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Post by: bones129 on December 04, 2016, 12:32:53 AM
Hate to lose, but what a great match!
Absolutely. The match was exciting and everything tournament play should be. Wish the outcome had been different, but it was a superb match. Glad to be there to see it.
Post by: Canary on December 04, 2016, 01:17:12 PM
I was able to go Friday, but knew that yesterday's match had potential to be amazing. Glad you got to go.Hate to lose, but what a great match!
Absolutely. The match was exciting and everything tournament play should be. Wish the outcome had been different, but it was a superb match. Glad to be there to see it.
Post by: bones129 on December 06, 2016, 02:10:17 AM
I was able to go Friday, but knew that yesterday's match had potential to be amazing. Glad you got to go.Hate to lose, but what a great match!
Absolutely. The match was exciting and everything tournament play should be. Wish the outcome had been different, but it was a superb match. Glad to be there to see it.
Saturday was well worth it. Sorry you apparently missed Saturday, but it's good you were there Friday for a fun match to watch.
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MANHATTAN, Kan. – Kansas State head volleyball coach Suzie Fritz announced the commitments of Brooke Heyne and Jacque Smith for the upcoming 2017 season.
Heyne, a 5-11 outside hitter, was named the 2016-17 Gatorade Nebraska Volleyball Player of the Year out of Skutt Catholic High School in Nebraska. Heyne led the SkyHawks to a perfect 44-0 record and second straight state title to go along with a No. 2 national ranking by PrepVolleyball.com.
In her senior season, Heyne tallied 474 kills, 362 digs and 40 service aces. A 2016-17 Under Armour Third Team All-American, she is also a MaxPreps First Team All-American and was named co-captain of the All-Nebraska Team.
“An incredibly talented and versatile player with a strong all-around skill set,” Fritz said of Heyne. “Brooke is a capable attacker, passer and defender that can impact our team in a number of ways. In addition, she has experienced great academic and competitive success. She excels in all areas of her life as an outstanding person committed to service and her academics.”
Smith was a four-year letterwinner out of St. Teresa’s Academy in Kansas City, Missouri. The 5-7 libero was selected to the Missouri-Kansas All-Star Team her senior season after setting the single-season digs record at STA with 545.
Smith received all-state, all-district and all-region honors in both her junior and senior seasons, as she led STA to the state tournament both years.
“Jacque is a high-energy and competitive libero candidate with good court presence and the capacity to manage first contact at a high level,” said Fritz. “Her primary responsibilities will be in the areas of pass and defend, but she will impact our team culture as a student and positive teammate.”
The Wildcats, coming off their 12th 20-win season under Fritz and fifth trip to the NCAA Tournament in the last six years, are currently in the midst of their spring schedule in preparation for the upcoming fall season.
Post by: Canary on April 14, 2017, 10:06:38 PM
:excited:The hitter sounds like a great addition. Looking forward to hearing more and following them again this fall.
MANHATTAN, Kan. – Kansas State head volleyball coach Suzie Fritz announced the commitments of Brooke Heyne and Jacque Smith for the upcoming 2017 season.
Heyne, a 5-11 outside hitter, was named the 2016-17 Gatorade Nebraska Volleyball Player of the Year out of Skutt Catholic High School in Nebraska. Heyne led the SkyHawks to a perfect 44-0 record and second straight state title to go along with a No. 2 national ranking by PrepVolleyball.com.
In her senior season, Heyne tallied 474 kills, 362 digs and 40 service aces. A 2016-17 Under Armour Third Team All-American, she is also a MaxPreps First Team All-American and was named co-captain of the All-Nebraska Team.
“An incredibly talented and versatile player with a strong all-around skill set,” Fritz said of Heyne. “Brooke is a capable attacker, passer and defender that can impact our team in a number of ways. In addition, she has experienced great academic and competitive success. She excels in all areas of her life as an outstanding person committed to service and her academics.”
Smith was a four-year letterwinner out of St. Teresa’s Academy in Kansas City, Missouri. The 5-7 libero was selected to the Missouri-Kansas All-Star Team her senior season after setting the single-season digs record at STA with 545.
Smith received all-state, all-district and all-region honors in both her junior and senior seasons, as she led STA to the state tournament both years.
“Jacque is a high-energy and competitive libero candidate with good court presence and the capacity to manage first contact at a high level,” said Fritz. “Her primary responsibilities will be in the areas of pass and defend, but she will impact our team culture as a student and positive teammate.”
The Wildcats, coming off their 12th 20-win season under Fritz and fifth trip to the NCAA Tournament in the last six years, are currently in the midst of their spring schedule in preparation for the upcoming fall season.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 16, 2017, 02:53:25 PM
Woot!
Thanks MIR
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Post by: scottwildcat on September 26, 2017, 03:36:07 PM
Welp, 6 straight to KU, it used to be the opposite.
we didn't lose to KU at home my 4 years in college :(
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They are not playing in their system at all.
Never attacking. So tentative.
Fritz is not as aesthetically pleasing as Kramer.
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Canary can't stand this team.Dislikes the vball coaching more than the football coaching.
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I agree, and I'm glad we ditched that God awful 6-2 offense.
Are you going to attend a vb match this season? If so, lemme know when and I'll try to join. I haven't been to a match since I left MHK a few years ago.
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 26, 2018, 03:55:37 PM
I agree, and I'm glad we ditched that God awful 6-2 offense.
Are you going to attend a vb match this season? If so, lemme know when and I'll try to join. I haven't been to a match since I left MHK a few years ago.
Gonna be tough, if I do, I'll definitely hit you up.
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Post by: pissclams on September 27, 2018, 09:47:00 AM
They had a really good non con but the last two matches have been terrible.
gotta work hard to manage staying on the bubble, it's all about getting that (small) cup of coffee in the ncaa's
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 27, 2018, 11:31:11 AM
They had a really good non con but the last two matches have been terrible.
gotta work hard to manage staying on the bubble, it's all about getting that (small) cup of coffee in the ncaa's
clams has nailed the Susie Secret. Sneak in to the tourney every few years, get absolutely demolished by a better team and then take a few years off
Post by: MakeItRain on September 28, 2018, 12:53:15 AM
The only real question I have in my mind is does Susie see the inside of that new VB arena has a head coach of the KSU Lady Cats? I understand that's the next thing on the list after the soccer/baseball/track work is done.
Considering her boss is on record discussing the trouble she has recruiting to a 68 year old building with a flooding problem, I'm guessing she's very safe.
Post by: ChiComCat on September 28, 2018, 08:54:25 AM
The only real question I have in my mind is does Susie see the inside of that new VB arena has a head coach of the KSU Lady Cats? I understand that's the next thing on the list after the soccer/baseball/track work is done.
Considering her boss is on record discussing the trouble she has recruiting to a 68 year old building with a flooding problem, I'm guessing she's very safe.
I've heard that she does not want to play in the Octagon despite the urging of almost everyone so I find it hard to give her a pass on that.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 28, 2018, 12:35:17 PM
The only real question I have in my mind is does Susie see the inside of that new VB arena has a head coach of the KSU Lady Cats? I understand that's the next thing on the list after the soccer/baseball/track work is done.
Considering her boss is on record discussing the trouble she has recruiting to a 68 year old building with a flooding problem, I'm guessing she's very safe.
I've heard that she does not want to play in the Octagon despite the urging of almost everyone so I find it hard to give her a pass on that.
She doesn't want to play there because it's a 12,000 seat basketball arena with no locker and training facilities that they can call their own and they would spend over half of the season having to share court time. That situation isn't any better, less flooding, more facility sharing. With either the Ahearn or the Bramlage set up K-State volleyball has the worst facilities by far in the Big 12. I know a couple of coaches on the Iowa State staff and they hate playing in Hilton despite them having very good and permanent facilities. If you've ever seen a match at a dedicated volleyball facility there is a discernable difference. Frankly, it's ridiculous that people have the expectation that volleyball teams play in facilities built for other sports. How many college baseball teams play in multi use facilities?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 28, 2018, 02:13:52 PM
So the question is absolutely applicable here.
Volleyball is played in venues also used for basketball in thousands of places across the country.
The facility crutch only goes so far, V-Ball has remodeled dressing rooms which are easily the nicest of any non-revenue sport at K-State. V-Ball has the nicest offices of any non revenue sport at K-State, that's the old men's basketball offices and they've been remodeled. Ahearn is not optimal, but it has both game day court and practice courts. So while I'm all for a new VB arena, I have my doubts that it will lift the boat all that much under current leadership.
Post by: ChiComCat on September 28, 2018, 02:30:48 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 29, 2018, 09:51:27 AM
Where do most D1 P5 volleyball teams play?
Stay on point. She has a great excuse for being legitimately below average
Post by: MakeItRain on September 29, 2018, 10:19:04 AM
Where do most D1 P5 volleyball teams play?
Nationwide it's about 50/50 in the Big 12 KU, OU, Texas, and TCU have their own facilities. You want a damming indictment on how we've neglected volleyball compared to their peers. Look at this link. Look at when this was built and how much it cost. People mock ku football, we've been light years behind ku volleyball facilities for twenty years and this is when K-State was an absolute machine and ku was simply awful.
https://kuathletics.com/sports/2013/6/27/facilities-horejsi-family-athletics-center.aspx?id=198
And despite what dax says about volleyball having the nicest non revenue locker room, that simply isn't true. Their comps are baseball, women's basketball, and soccer and all three of those have new facilities or will have them very soon. Soccer is going to lap volleyball and they've been here for 15 minutes. Even rowing has their facility, rowing! The basement of Ahearn flooded this month.
Post by: pissclams on September 29, 2018, 01:11:17 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 30, 2018, 10:16:27 AM
V-Ball now 0-4 and I'm holding Ahearn Fieldhouse personally responsible.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 17, 2018, 11:48:27 PM
I've said it before, a close friend and someone who would know says that there was a stretch a few years ago K-State really blew it with some top recruits that could have moved the strength back to the MHK away from another school.
Maybe they'll get on a roll now.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 29, 2018, 10:16:13 AM
Do I start mocking that absolutely awful baseball hire now to force him to win or wait until the spring?
I'm gonna wait and see on this guy, but as soon as the baseball stadium is done and he's still got K-State as a bottom feeder then we shall mock together.
On the VB note, I suppose we'll need to wait until SF has that new $31 million dollar complex before we can have any expectations for volleyball.
Post by: pissclams on November 14, 2018, 09:18:58 PM
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I'm wondering what Susie supporters are going to come up with this time on why she should still have a job.
Can't do anything with Susie until she gets that $31 million dollar new facility.
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Not gonna lie, my GAF level about firing the lady vb coach is exactly zero GAF's.
Got a top 50 recruit from Louisurg. When will the facility be done? 2020?She's the real deal and also has deep family ties to KState. They are whiffing on far more than they are hitting.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 12, 2018, 12:40:58 PM
Post by: Dirty Deeds on December 12, 2018, 06:25:53 PM
Kansas City is by no means a volleyball hotbed, Jesus Christ. Kansas City has very good club and youth programs but they aren't producing any more division 1 talent than similar sized Midwestern cities.Wrong, the Heart of America only trails SoCal, Texas and Florida in strength. Might wanna check out the All American teams posted earlier for several prominent players that came from the KC area. The Final Four this weekend features 2 starters from Illinois, 2 starters from Nebraska & 2 starters from Stanford all from the Heart of America region. Minnesota who was a favorite for the Final Four also has 2 starters from the KC area. Jesus Christ, I think the area might be a little better than “good”.
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Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2018, 08:42:44 PM
Kansas City is by no means a volleyball hotbed, Jesus Christ. Kansas City has very good club and youth programs but they aren't producing any more division 1 talent than similar sized Midwestern cities.Wrong, the Heart of America only trails SoCal, Texas and Florida in strength. Might wanna check out the All American teams posted earlier for several prominent players that came from the KC area. The Final Four this weekend features 2 starters from Illinois, 2 starters from Nebraska & 2 starters from Stanford all from the Heart of America region. Minnesota who was a favorite for the Final Four also has 2 starters from the KC area. Jesus Christ, I think the area might be a little better than “good”.
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You said Kansas City, not Heart of America. HOA is, geographically, one of the largest regions in USAV. You didn't dispute anything about Kansas City having more or less D1 athletes than similarly sized metro areas.
Post by: Dirty Deeds on December 14, 2018, 08:55:34 AM
Geography? HOA has less than 1/3 of the membership as the other regions mentioned. If you are familiar with Open level club VB than you'll know HOA had the National Champions at 16 last year and 18 the year before. Power 5 coaches cram the courts of MAVS and KC POWER 15,17,17 year old teams at qualifiers. You're slipping with you're pointless have to argue shtick.Kansas City is by no means a volleyball hotbed, Jesus Christ. Kansas City has very good club and youth programs but they aren't producing any more division 1 talent than similar sized Midwestern cities.Wrong, the Heart of America only trails SoCal, Texas and Florida in strength. Might wanna check out the All American teams posted earlier for several prominent players that came from the KC area. The Final Four this weekend features 2 starters from Illinois, 2 starters from Nebraska & 2 starters from Stanford all from the Heart of America region. Minnesota who was a favorite for the Final Four also has 2 starters from the KC area. Jesus Christ, I think the area might be a little better than “good”.
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You said Kansas City, not Heart of America. HOA is, geographically, one of the largest regions in USAV. You didn't dispute anything about Kansas City having more or less D1 athletes than similarly sized metro areas.
Post by: salcat on December 14, 2018, 01:28:07 PM
Post by: Dirty Deeds on December 14, 2018, 01:45:23 PM
Illinois has players from Topeka and Lenexa. Nebraska has one from Topeka and Stanford has 2 starters from OP.All of them except Nebraska's Jazz Sweet played for KC clubs. Nebraska's Callie Schwartzenbach from Kearney MO played for a KC club also. Volleyball has blown up in the last 7-8 years in KC. I would hope that Suzie could start taking advantage.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 18, 2018, 03:24:12 AM
Geography? HOA has less than 1/3 of the membership as the other regions mentioned. If you are familiar with Open level club VB than you'll know HOA had the National Champions at 16 last year and 18 the year before. Power 5 coaches cram the courts of MAVS and KC POWER 15,17,17 year old teams at qualifiers. You're slipping with you're pointless have to argue shtick.Kansas City is by no means a volleyball hotbed, Jesus Christ. Kansas City has very good club and youth programs but they aren't producing any more division 1 talent than similar sized Midwestern cities.Wrong, the Heart of America only trails SoCal, Texas and Florida in strength. Might wanna check out the All American teams posted earlier for several prominent players that came from the KC area. The Final Four this weekend features 2 starters from Illinois, 2 starters from Nebraska & 2 starters from Stanford all from the Heart of America region. Minnesota who was a favorite for the Final Four also has 2 starters from the KC area. Jesus Christ, I think the area might be a little better than “good”.
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You said Kansas City, not Heart of America. HOA is, geographically, one of the largest regions in USAV. You didn't dispute anything about Kansas City having more or less D1 athletes than similarly sized metro areas.
I literally said "Kansas City has very good club and youth programs." I also never said that KC or HOA doesn't produce D1 athletes. I took exception to your posturing that Kansas City has more talent than any like sized cities. You haven't proven your point, you just keep reiterating that HOA have good club programs, a point I wholeheartedly agree with.
I'll also take exception to "volleyball has blown up in the last 7-8 years in KC." It seems like you've been paying attention for only "the last 7-8 years." I started coaching clubs in HOA 18 years ago and the region was producing about a dozen D1 players a year and winning club national championships back then. The only real change is the Big 10 getting better and coming into the region for talent.
Your 1/3 membership claim is dubious when it comes to the neighboring regions. Compared to some of the southern and west coast regions, Rocky Mountain, North Texas, Lone Star, Keystone, sure; but to Iowa, Nebraska, St. Louis, Oklahoma, and Arkansas. Stop it.
Post by: Dirty Deeds on December 18, 2018, 10:41:57 AM
So a good example would be to compare say the Iowa region with HOA? Basically equal membership. And what national titles are you talking about 18 years ago, the lower level region bid awarded? The 12-13 yr old age groups? FYI, in 2018 HOA had 12 teams qualify Open, 10 of them from KC Clubs. Iowa had 2. Apparently the KC area indeed is producing talent at a higher clip than you believed. Didn't this start with your claim that KC was painfully just average in spitting out D1 players? Your clownsuit is perfectly tailored but I will continue to make all the unnecessary alterations that you request.Geography? HOA has less than 1/3 of the membership as the other regions mentioned. If you are familiar with Open level club VB than you'll know HOA had the National Champions at 16 last year and 18 the year before. Power 5 coaches cram the courts of MAVS and KC POWER 15,17,17 year old teams at qualifiers. You're slipping with you're pointless have to argue shtick.Kansas City is by no means a volleyball hotbed, Jesus Christ. Kansas City has very good club and youth programs but they aren't producing any more division 1 talent than similar sized Midwestern cities.Wrong, the Heart of America only trails SoCal, Texas and Florida in strength. Might wanna check out the All American teams posted earlier for several prominent players that came from the KC area. The Final Four this weekend features 2 starters from Illinois, 2 starters from Nebraska & 2 starters from Stanford all from the Heart of America region. Minnesota who was a favorite for the Final Four also has 2 starters from the KC area. Jesus Christ, I think the area might be a little better than “good”.
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You said Kansas City, not Heart of America. HOA is, geographically, one of the largest regions in USAV. You didn't dispute anything about Kansas City having more or less D1 athletes than similarly sized metro areas.
I literally said "Kansas City has very good club and youth programs." I also never said that KC or HOA doesn't produce D1 athletes. I took exception to your posturing that Kansas City has more talent than any like sized cities. You haven't proven your point, you just keep reiterating that HOA have good club programs, a point I wholeheartedly agree with.
I'll also take exception to "volleyball has blown up in the last 7-8 years in KC." It seems like you've been paying attention for only "the last 7-8 years." I started coaching clubs in HOA 18 years ago and the region was producing about a dozen D1 players a year and winning club national championships back then. The only real change is the Big 10 getting better and coming into the region for talent.
Your 1/3 membership claim is dubious when it comes to the neighboring regions. Compared to some of the southern and west coast regions, Rocky Mountain, North Texas, Lone Star, Keystone, sure; but to Iowa, Nebraska, St. Louis, Oklahoma, and Arkansas. Stop it.
Post by: pissclams on December 18, 2018, 11:01:15 AM
suzie needs to go
Post by: MakeItRain on December 18, 2018, 11:10:37 AM
So a good example would be to compare say the Iowa region with HOA? Basically equal membership. And what national titles are you talking about 18 years ago, the lower level region bid awarded? The 12-13 yr old age groups? FYI, in 2018 HOA had 12 teams qualify Open, 10 of them from KC Clubs. Iowa had 2. Apparently the KC area indeed is producing talent at a higher clip than you believed. Didn't this start with your claim that KC was painfully just average in spitting out D1 players? Your clownsuit is perfectly tailored but I will continue to make all the unnecessary alterations that you request.Geography? HOA has less than 1/3 of the membership as the other regions mentioned. If you are familiar with Open level club VB than you'll know HOA had the National Champions at 16 last year and 18 the year before. Power 5 coaches cram the courts of MAVS and KC POWER 15,17,17 year old teams at qualifiers. You're slipping with you're pointless have to argue shtick.Kansas City is by no means a volleyball hotbed, Jesus Christ. Kansas City has very good club and youth programs but they aren't producing any more division 1 talent than similar sized Midwestern cities.Wrong, the Heart of America only trails SoCal, Texas and Florida in strength. Might wanna check out the All American teams posted earlier for several prominent players that came from the KC area. The Final Four this weekend features 2 starters from Illinois, 2 starters from Nebraska & 2 starters from Stanford all from the Heart of America region. Minnesota who was a favorite for the Final Four also has 2 starters from the KC area. Jesus Christ, I think the area might be a little better than “good”.
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You said Kansas City, not Heart of America. HOA is, geographically, one of the largest regions in USAV. You didn't dispute anything about Kansas City having more or less D1 athletes than similarly sized metro areas.
I literally said "Kansas City has very good club and youth programs." I also never said that KC or HOA doesn't produce D1 athletes. I took exception to your posturing that Kansas City has more talent than any like sized cities. You haven't proven your point, you just keep reiterating that HOA have good club programs, a point I wholeheartedly agree with.
I'll also take exception to "volleyball has blown up in the last 7-8 years in KC." It seems like you've been paying attention for only "the last 7-8 years." I started coaching clubs in HOA 18 years ago and the region was producing about a dozen D1 players a year and winning club national championships back then. The only real change is the Big 10 getting better and coming into the region for talent.
Your 1/3 membership claim is dubious when it comes to the neighboring regions. Compared to some of the southern and west coast regions, Rocky Mountain, North Texas, Lone Star, Keystone, sure; but to Iowa, Nebraska, St. Louis, Oklahoma, and Arkansas. Stop it.
Nah, you apparently can't read. We can just leave the conversation here. Kansas City metro has more volleyball players than the entire state of Iowa, HOA also has Topeka, Wichita, COMO, etc. You seem to be focused on me instead of proving your claim that Kansas City is some new volleyball hotbed that Suzie isn't taking advantage of. Never mind the fact that she has more former HOA players than any other D1 school.
If you just stated your opinion that you think Suzie isn't doing her job or that she needs to go, like pissclams did, I wouldn't have even replied, I mean what am I going to say? But you tried to make a point using a dubious "fact," and you won't prove it or let it go.
Post by: pissclams on December 18, 2018, 11:16:31 AM
Post by: Dirty Deeds on December 18, 2018, 12:50:23 PM
Kansas City area is a hotbed for VB talent. Suzie and staff, with a few exceptions are getting stomped recruiting that area.What is dubious about this statement MIR? It is indeed a hotbed for talent & by in large they are not ending up in Manhattan.
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Post by: MakeItRain on December 18, 2018, 01:42:24 PM
i mean, i have no idea if we can hire someone better, but that should not be a reason to keep her around
It absolutely should be. I mean I'd buy that argument if she wasn't successful but she averages a tournament appearance every other year, she's a wildly successful P5 volleyball coach. Could we strike gold with finding the next Kevin Hambly, maybe, but that's a huge risk when I'm not sure it's needed.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 18, 2018, 01:48:04 PM
Kansas City area is a hotbed for VB talent. Suzie and staff, with a few exceptions are getting stomped recruiting that area.What is dubious about this statement MIR? It is indeed a hotbed for talent & by in large they are not ending up in Manhattan.
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I've said a thousand times that I take exception to "hotbed" particularly in how you're framing it. But moving past that, I'll give you "hotbed." I'm going to scream this because you clearly missed it when I spoke normally to you the first time. SUZIE SIGNS MORE KANSAS CITY/HOA GIRLS THAN ANY OTHER PROGRAM IN THE COUNTRY. This includes KU, UMKC, Missouri, Missouri State, and Nebraska. The fact that she got beat by Nebraska, Stanford, and BYU for the best KC kids isn't ground breaking. Those are all traditional powers that spend at least twice as much on volleyball than we do.
Post by: pissclams on December 18, 2018, 01:54:43 PM
i mean, i have no idea if we can hire someone better, but that should not be a reason to keep her around
It absolutely should be. I mean I'd buy that argument if she wasn't successful but she averages a tournament appearance every other year, she's a wildly successful P5 volleyball coach. Could we strike gold with finding the next Kevin Hambly, maybe, but that's a huge risk when I'm not sure it's needed.
look i get it that you're going to defend her until the end but i disagree that she's been wildly successful.
she hasn't placed better than 4th in the b12 in the past decade and hasn't gotten past the 2nd round in the ncaa tournament since 2011.
maybe you and i just have a different definition of what success means, but her record isn't it to me.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 18, 2018, 02:00:30 PM
i mean, i have no idea if we can hire someone better, but that should not be a reason to keep her around
It absolutely should be. I mean I'd buy that argument if she wasn't successful but she averages a tournament appearance every other year, she's a wildly successful P5 volleyball coach. Could we strike gold with finding the next Kevin Hambly, maybe, but that's a huge risk when I'm not sure it's needed.
look i get it that you're going to defend her until the end but i disagree that she's been wildly successful.
she hasn't placed better than 4th in the b12 in the past decade and hasn't gotten past the 2nd round in the ncaa tournament since 2011.
maybe you and i just have a different definition of what success means, but her record isn't it to me.
I'm not going to defend her to the death. I want Dawn Sullivan here but the fact of the matter is that if you're an athletic director it's very tough to fire a coach of an Olympic sport who's in the post season every other season, keeps her nose clean, and usually has the best APR in all conference teams across all sports.
I usually stay out of these conversations about Suzie because people won't acknowledge the measurements for success for non revenue sports are different. I know you aren't trolling like these Suzie discussions usually resort to.
Post by: Dirty Deeds on December 18, 2018, 02:10:00 PM
Should have never let Bird fly away from Lawrence to College Station. Suzie's roster is full of HOA kids but not high impact ones. Hope that changes with Anna Dixon who's enrolling in January. There are plenty of studs from HOA that didn't end up at the "traditional" powers. I'll start with the setters from Kentucky & Loyola Marymount. Suzie had always run a slower offense with big physical outsides. She recruited Sandbothe as an athletic smaller MB and Zumach really slimmed down so maybe she's starting to move towards a quicker more athletic group.i mean, i have no idea if we can hire someone better, but that should not be a reason to keep her around
It absolutely should be. I mean I'd buy that argument if she wasn't successful but she averages a tournament appearance every other year, she's a wildly successful P5 volleyball coach. Could we strike gold with finding the next Kevin Hambly, maybe, but that's a huge risk when I'm not sure it's needed.
look i get it that you're going to defend her until the end but i disagree that she's been wildly successful.
she hasn't placed better than 4th in the b12 in the past decade and hasn't gotten past the 2nd round in the ncaa tournament since 2011.
maybe you and i just have a different definition of what success means, but her record isn't it to me.
I'm not going to defend her to the death. I want Dawn Sullivan here but the fact of the matter is that if you're an athletic director it's very tough to fire a coach of an Olympic sport who's in the post season every other season, keeps her nose clean, and usually has the best APR in all conference teams across all sports.
I usually stay out of these conversations about Suzie because people won't acknowledge the measurements for success for non revenue sports are different. I know you aren't trolling like these Suzie discussions usually resort to.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 18, 2018, 06:00:04 PM
Should have never let Bird fly away from Lawrence to College Station. Suzie's roster is full of HOA kids but not high impact ones. Hope that changes with Anna Dixon who's enrolling in January. There are plenty of studs from HOA that didn't end up at the "traditional" powers. I'll start with the setters from Kentucky & Loyola Marymount. Suzie had always run a slower offense with big physical outsides. She recruited Sandbothe as an athletic smaller MB and Zumach really slimmed down so maybe she's starting to move towards a quicker more athletic group.i mean, i have no idea if we can hire someone better, but that should not be a reason to keep her around
It absolutely should be. I mean I'd buy that argument if she wasn't successful but she averages a tournament appearance every other year, she's a wildly successful P5 volleyball coach. Could we strike gold with finding the next Kevin Hambly, maybe, but that's a huge risk when I'm not sure it's needed.
look i get it that you're going to defend her until the end but i disagree that she's been wildly successful.
she hasn't placed better than 4th in the b12 in the past decade and hasn't gotten past the 2nd round in the ncaa tournament since 2011.
maybe you and i just have a different definition of what success means, but her record isn't it to me.
I'm not going to defend her to the death. I want Dawn Sullivan here but the fact of the matter is that if you're an athletic director it's very tough to fire a coach of an Olympic sport who's in the post season every other season, keeps her nose clean, and usually has the best APR in all conference teams across all sports.
I usually stay out of these conversations about Suzie because people won't acknowledge the measurements for success for non revenue sports are different. I know you aren't trolling like these Suzie discussions usually resort to.
I agree with all of that. I love Kylee, one of my favorite cats OAT, she's still what I'd consider, lumbering.
Post by: Dirty Deeds on December 18, 2018, 06:26:58 PM
Wish we could have pulled Kylee’s little sister.Should have never let Bird fly away from Lawrence to College Station. Suzie's roster is full of HOA kids but not high impact ones. Hope that changes with Anna Dixon who's enrolling in January. There are plenty of studs from HOA that didn't end up at the "traditional" powers. I'll start with the setters from Kentucky & Loyola Marymount. Suzie had always run a slower offense with big physical outsides. She recruited Sandbothe as an athletic smaller MB and Zumach really slimmed down so maybe she's starting to move towards a quicker more athletic group.i mean, i have no idea if we can hire someone better, but that should not be a reason to keep her around
It absolutely should be. I mean I'd buy that argument if she wasn't successful but she averages a tournament appearance every other year, she's a wildly successful P5 volleyball coach. Could we strike gold with finding the next Kevin Hambly, maybe, but that's a huge risk when I'm not sure it's needed.
look i get it that you're going to defend her until the end but i disagree that she's been wildly successful.
she hasn't placed better than 4th in the b12 in the past decade and hasn't gotten past the 2nd round in the ncaa tournament since 2011.
maybe you and i just have a different definition of what success means, but her record isn't it to me.
I'm not going to defend her to the death. I want Dawn Sullivan here but the fact of the matter is that if you're an athletic director it's very tough to fire a coach of an Olympic sport who's in the post season every other season, keeps her nose clean, and usually has the best APR in all conference teams across all sports.
I usually stay out of these conversations about Suzie because people won't acknowledge the measurements for success for non revenue sports are different. I know you aren't trolling like these Suzie discussions usually resort to.
I agree with all of that. I love Kylee, one of my favorite cats OAT, she's still what I'd consider, lumbering.
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Kari? Is she any good, I haven't seen her play. I only saw Creighton play Nebraska and she didn't play. Red shirt?Played great for a frosh. Not trying to bring up recruiting again but it seems Booth is a bigger threat to KState than Bechard. Snuck in & stole Kendra Wait from the Hawks & A&M. She will be in the convo in a couple of years for National HS Player of the Year.
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Kari? Is she any good, I haven't seen her play. I only saw Creighton play Nebraska and she didn't play. Red shirt?Played great for a frosh. Not trying to bring up recruiting again but it seems Booth is a bigger threat to KState than Bechard. Snuck in & stole Kendra Wait from the Hawks & A&M. She will be in the convo in a couple of years for National HS Player of the Year.
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So, do you think it's an evaluation issue or is she missing on primary targets? I'm not as connected to HOA as I was when I lived there so I don't know who she is targeting.
Post by: Dirty Deeds on December 19, 2018, 06:14:45 AM
Not certain what the deal is. The Waits are a KState family, Bechard gets Cassie to walk on @ KU & we know the rest of the story. The high level talent seems to end up at Power & MAVS. Dixon is the first impact player she’s pulled from either club in awhile. Power already has a 2021 OH committed to OU & a 2021 MB committed to Illinois. The later is from a KState family. Suzie seems to have lost her seat at the table. Maybe she shouldn’t roster 23 kidsKari? Is she any good, I haven't seen her play. I only saw Creighton play Nebraska and she didn't play. Red shirt?Played great for a frosh. Not trying to bring up recruiting again but it seems Booth is a bigger threat to KState than Bechard. Snuck in & stole Kendra Wait from the Hawks & A&M. She will be in the convo in a couple of years for National HS Player of the Year.
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So, do you think it's an evaluation issue or is she missing on primary targets? I'm not as connected to HOA as I was when I lived there so I don't know who she is targeting.
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Thank goodness NU didn’t win the deal. They are insufferable and try to talk to me about volleyball constantly. Did you watch the MATCH? No fuckface, I didn’t watch the game.They are hard to stomach for sure but one helluva program. Average around 8K for home games, if you removed the blue hair it would be about 1500.
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Post by: Kid In the Hall on September 17, 2019, 12:36:11 PM
Even though Suzie's under contract through 2020, time for Gene to start working the phones?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 17, 2019, 05:11:36 PM
The Fritz's are off to a 4-5 start with losses to non VB juggernauts Missouri State, Weber State, Dayton, NC State and Maryland (as well as a five-set thriller win against Omaha). Three more matches (North Texas, Ohio, New Mexico) until Big 12 play. Probably looking at another 8th or 9th place finish in the league (only 9 teams), which would be the third straight year finishing last or next-to-last.
Even though Suzie's under contract through 2020, time for Gene to start working the phones?
Until she gets the new facility and fails in that, she is K-State's V-ball coach, those are the rules.
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The Fritz's are off to a 4-5 start with losses to non VB juggernauts Missouri State, Weber State, Dayton, NC State and Maryland (as well as a five-set thriller win against Omaha). Three more matches (North Texas, Ohio, New Mexico) until Big 12 play. Probably looking at another 8th or 9th place finish in the league (only 9 teams), which would be the third straight year finishing last or next-to-last.
Even though Suzie's under contract through 2020, time for Gene to start working the phones?
I will still contend that the standard for Olympic coaches is much different, I'm starting to lose patience. This will be the first time since 1995 that we will go three years without a tournament appearance. She still isn't in the position where she should be fire after this season, 12 tournament appearances in 19 years is very good. The trend however is bad. This team is young but they will need to replace the setter, you can't continually sell a rebuild. This team will finish with around 10 wins. For her to get 2021, I think that she can't lose any key players before 2020 and that team needs to, at the very least, be on the tournament bubble.
Meanwhile UNLV has a bad record but they have put together a ridiculous schedule. They play KU this weekend. Dawn is clearly building to conference play and is willing to take a beating in the non-con.
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You could see this crap show coming. Sandbothe bolted to Ohio St as a grad transfer which left a big hole. If it makes anybody feel better, it’s happening at KU also.
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UNLV recently slipped into HOA & took a talented 2021 OH that I guess Suzie didn’t think was good enough?The Fritz's are off to a 4-5 start with losses to non VB juggernauts Missouri State, Weber State, Dayton, NC State and Maryland (as well as a five-set thriller win against Omaha). Three more matches (North Texas, Ohio, New Mexico) until Big 12 play. Probably looking at another 8th or 9th place finish in the league (only 9 teams), which would be the third straight year finishing last or next-to-last.
Even though Suzie's under contract through 2020, time for Gene to start working the phones?
I will still contend that the standard for Olympic coaches is much different, I'm starting to lose patience. This will be the first time since 1995 that we will go three years without a tournament appearance. She still isn't in the position where she should be fire after this season, 12 tournament appearances in 19 years is very good. The trend however is bad. This team is young but they will need to replace the setter, you can't continually sell a rebuild. This team will finish with around 10 wins. For her to get 2021, I think that she can't lose any key players before 2020 and that team needs to, at the very least, be on the tournament bubble.
Meanwhile UNLV has a bad record but they have put together a ridiculous schedule. They play KU this weekend. Dawn is clearly building to conference play and is willing to take a beating in the non-con.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 25, 2019, 07:58:54 PM
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I'll say it again, my "in the know" Kansas and Midwest V-ball contact told me that Suzie went into some weird ass recruiting spiel multiple times that sent multiple P5 players highly interested in K-State elsewhere. Total turn off to student-athlete and parents.
Ahh... yes, the "Deb Patterson" approach.
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Nice win against KU after falling in an 0-2 hole. Dixon figuring it out very quickly. MIR, did you see Kari Zumach transferred to Indiana?I did not. Odd choice, wonder why she picked there? They aren't that good and it looks like she was a sub when she did play but now she isn't playing at all.
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Post by: nicname on November 19, 2019, 11:31:22 PM
Suzie Cats are now 8-17. Kansas HS players of the year in each class have been released. 6A POY is a South Dakota commit. SD sits at #38 in RPI, a full 150 spots ahead of the Cats. 5A POY is a KU commit & on the USA under 18 team. 2 of the top libero’s in the country are from KS and are committed to Creighton & Louisville. One of the top 2021 setters in the country is from KS & is also a Creighton commit. We are getting embarrassed on the recruiting front. It’s time...
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Woof.
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...is on the fritz...
YEAH!!!
CAN HER ASS!
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 21, 2019, 06:36:29 PM
On a related note Coach Dibs has had $14.5 million dollars worth new facilities built for his program since its inception. The fastest facilities trajectory in K-State athletic history. Other women's soccer program quite literally waited decades to get what K-State has now.
Time to get beyond 1 conference win a year.
Post by: nicname on November 22, 2019, 09:45:57 AM
She's not going anywhere until she gets the new arena.
On a related note Coach Dibs has had $14.5 million dollars worth new facilities built for his program since its inception. The fastest facilities trajectory in K-State athletic history. Other women's soccer program quite literally waited decades to get what K-State has now.
Time to get beyond 1 conference win a year.
CAN DIBS' ASS!!!
Post by: MakeItRain on November 23, 2019, 12:04:18 PM
The fastest facilities trajectory in K-State athletic history.
I'm not bullshitting when I say this is the most insincere and intellectually dishonest thing I've ever read from dax on a sports thread, and that says a great deal.
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I think it’s time for a change. They have a decent recruiting class next year. One is in the top 50 and another in the top 100. Maybe they could be ok with another coach.I wouldn’t pay an ounce of attention to those player rankings outside the top 20. There’s a local KC kid in the Top 100 that can’t get on the floor for her below average HS team.
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Yeah bud, pretty safe bet we're going to have players transfer out and in, every program has them, there's hundreds every year. Lexi freaking Sun transferred, nothing is sacred.I’ve heard there are some comical reasons that are used to gain immediate eligibility. It’s basically a given now that they don’t have to sit a season.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 10, 2019, 02:32:05 PM
Post by: Kid In the Hall on December 11, 2019, 01:36:45 PM
Fritz's facility issues/complaints pale in comparison.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 11, 2019, 01:43:45 PM
Comparatively speaking, Fritz has had a pretty sweet ride compared to other K-State coaches as it relates to facilities (when Snyder first arrived, the tennis team, the rowing team, etc.). Many didn't even have facilities for years. Or, in Mike Clark's case, he had a junior high field and then had to play on the road for an entire season (which, literally, included a series against Maryland on a middle school field).
Fritz's facility issues/complaints pale in comparison.
Holy hell is this ridiculous.
Post by: Kid In the Hall on December 11, 2019, 03:30:05 PM
Comparatively speaking, Fritz has had a pretty sweet ride compared to other K-State coaches as it relates to facilities (when Snyder first arrived, the tennis team, the rowing team, etc.). Many didn't even have facilities for years. Or, in Mike Clark's case, he had a junior high field and then had to play on the road for an entire season (which, literally, included a series against Maryland on a middle school field).
Fritz's facility issues/complaints pale in comparison.
Holy hell is this ridiculous.
No, it's really not. Historically speaking, K-State facilities have been quite poor. But, Fritz/VB haven't been nearly as poor as the vast majority of the other sports.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 11, 2019, 10:15:24 PM
Comparatively speaking, Fritz has had a pretty sweet ride compared to other K-State coaches as it relates to facilities (when Snyder first arrived, the tennis team, the rowing team, etc.). Many didn't even have facilities for years. Or, in Mike Clark's case, he had a junior high field and then had to play on the road for an entire season (which, literally, included a series against Maryland on a middle school field).
Fritz's facility issues/complaints pale in comparison.
Holy hell is this ridiculous.
No, it's really not. Historically speaking, K-State facilities have been quite poor. But, Fritz/VB haven't been nearly as poor as the vast majority of the other sports.
Even if this is true, how in the world is it relevant? Is she recruiting against other college volleyball programs or the K-State baseball team?
Post by: Kid In the Hall on December 12, 2019, 09:28:32 AM
Comparatively speaking, Fritz has had a pretty sweet ride compared to other K-State coaches as it relates to facilities (when Snyder first arrived, the tennis team, the rowing team, etc.). Many didn't even have facilities for years. Or, in Mike Clark's case, he had a junior high field and then had to play on the road for an entire season (which, literally, included a series against Maryland on a middle school field).
Fritz's facility issues/complaints pale in comparison.
Holy hell is this ridiculous.
No, it's really not. Historically speaking, K-State facilities have been quite poor. But, Fritz/VB haven't been nearly as poor as the vast majority of the other sports.
Even if this is true, how in the world is it relevant? Is she recruiting against other college volleyball programs or the K-State baseball team?
It's relevant for several reasons - other K-State coaches have had worse facilities and, arguably, performed better than Fritz (Snyder in the early days, Rovelto, etc.).
Setting aside the sports that virtually nobody historically cares about (including our athletic department) such as golf, tennis, rowing, etc., the athletic department has actually fired coaches for lack of performance in the middle tier sports (VB, women's b-ball, baseball) as well as the upper tier (football, men's b-ball). Fritz's past three years are as bad (and it's pretty easy to argue it's worse) than anything under Wooly, Asbury, Clark, Patterson - all coaches who were pushed out despite not having "great" facilities (b-ball was still in Ahearn for practices/offices and Clark had a couple of years with a stadium that was middle of the pack the second it was built, while ceiling tiles were still falling in Brandeberry).
As for VB facilities, outside of the top 25ish programs, the vast majority of VB facilities across the country are high school level or slightly higher. No dedicated VB practice courts, sharing time with basketball teams for court time, etc. By that measure, Fritz should be able to produce a fringe top 25 program. She did for a while, but her program has fallen off the rails. A new facility will give her a boost, but it won't fix the root problem, which is that Fritz is past her prime and it's time for her to go.
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Anna Dixon transferring to Mizzou. Horrible look for the program considering her KState bloodlines....& she won’t be the only significant departure.
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Some good Fr players.
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I only caught the last 2.5 sets, but the block was better than I was expecting (in particular, Archibong looked good). It is WVU, but, baby steps... splitting with ISU last weekend was also a positive sign.That’s Archibongs game going back to HS. Hope they can continue to develop her offense, she can bounce it.
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 02, 2020, 02:41:31 PM
I only caught the last 2.5 sets, but the block was better than I was expecting (in particular, Archibong looked good). It is WVU, but, baby steps... splitting with ISU last weekend was also a positive sign.
Exactly. Doing this with all of these kids is great, now we have to keep them, but it's already apparent that this is the best team we've had in a couple of years. WE HAVE TO KEEP THESE PLAYERS!
Post by: Kid In the Hall on October 02, 2020, 09:30:43 PM
Will find out what we're made of vs. Texas next Friday-Saturday.
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It would have been nice to see the 5th set, damn Appalachia.
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 16, 2020, 09:32:40 PM
Just saw on the ESPN bottom line that we are #13. Seems good?
They are only ranking the teams that are playing. We're much better but not that good. This performance against UT is a much better gauge of how good we are because they are a legit top 5 team. The women look great, I'm thrilled.
Post by: 8manpick on October 16, 2020, 09:37:37 PM
I’m watching, we look good!Just saw on the ESPN bottom line that we are #13. Seems good?
They are only ranking the teams that are playing. We're much better but not that good. This performance against UT is a much better gauge of how good we are because they are a legit top 5 team. The women look great, I'm thrilled.
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CONFIDENCE RISING
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Waaayyyyy too early for that
I’m impressed by the talent. I’d heard the ‘cruitin’ had a real uptick, but wow. I honestly wasn’t sure Sue had another run in her. Happy for her to be getting much deserved facilities and money support as well.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 17, 2020, 10:35:10 AM
Waaayyyyy too early for that
I’m impressed by the talent. I’d heard the ‘cruitin’ had a real uptick, but wow. I honestly wasn’t sure Sue had another run in her. Happy for her to be getting much deserved facilities and money support as well.
She's had three straight recruiting classes, although most from the first class are gone. It's probably going to be a while before Suzie sees that new arena, they don't have the money yet.
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They should leave Carter in the back row. One of our DS is not good.
Have you seen something to indicate she can dig and pass?
Post by: Dirty Deeds on October 18, 2020, 05:44:07 PM
Well it’s not ideal to recruit 3 rotation OH’s.They should leave Carter in the back row. One of our DS is not good.
Have you seen something to indicate she can dig and pass?
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I haven’t seen her play much defense but I know she can hit from back there which would give them another option.
Can she though? Her height makes me very leery about her ability to hit from the back row. Even if she can, this level of volleyball has players who can absolutely expose anyone who is a defensive liability. You can't be defending with 5 players and expect to win.
Post by: Dirty Deeds on October 18, 2020, 09:09:51 PM
Serve receive can be a brutal initiation. They’ll find you.I haven’t seen her play much defense but I know she can hit from back there which would give them another option.
Can she though? Her height makes me very leery about her ability to hit from the back row. Even if she can, this level of volleyball has players who can absolutely expose anyone who is a defensive liability. You can't be defending with 5 players and expect to win.
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Serve receive can be a brutal initiation. They’ll find you.I haven’t seen her play much defense but I know she can hit from back there which would give them another option.
Can she though? Her height makes me very leery about her ability to hit from the back row. Even if she can, this level of volleyball has players who can absolutely expose anyone who is a defensive liability. You can't be defending with 5 players and expect to win.
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Receiving with 5 and trying to hide the bad passer in the back corner of zone 5 doesn't work past club ball.
Post by: Cardiac Cats on October 23, 2020, 08:49:40 AM
?s=20Well looky here. Looks like I’ll be sporting an @IowaStateU hat at some point. https://t.co/ohZ11pWsKn
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 23, 2020, 09:16:49 AM
She plays for KC Power, which is the best club in the country. The team brooke played on had every player receive a D1 scholarship, including one who is coming here. We don't do as well with that club as any of us would like, I think we've had 5 or 6 signings from Power the last decade or so, but those girls all get recruited nationally. They aren't regional recruits we're missing on because we don't know who they are.
Post by: Cardiac Cats on October 23, 2020, 10:28:38 AM
I don't know if we recruited her or not. I do know she committed there over a year ago, so if he's just finding out about this via tweet, I have to wonder how close he is to her.
She plays for KC Power, which is the best club in the country. The team brooke played on had every player receive a D1 scholarship, including one who is coming here. We don't do as well with that club as any of us would like, I think we've had 5 or 6 signings from Power the last decade or so, but those girls all get recruited nationally. They aren't regional recruits we're missing on because we don't know who they are.
Just spent the last 30 minutes down a "KC Power" rabbit hole. Wow. The college commitment list was definitely impressive. Thanks for the additional depth.
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Post by: Dirty Deeds on October 24, 2020, 07:38:02 AM
I don't know if we recruited her or not. I do know she committed there over a year ago, so if he's just finding out about this via tweet, I have to wonder how close he is to her.Brooke had a pretty serious injury that sidetracked her recruiting. You dig yourself a hole with Power if they send their setter to KState & the staff screws her around. That was 7-8 years ago & still not forgotten.
She plays for KC Power, which is the best club in the country. The team brooke played on had every player receive a D1 scholarship, including one who is coming here. We don't do as well with that club as any of us would like, I think we've had 5 or 6 signings from Power the last decade or so, but those girls all get recruited nationally. They aren't regional recruits we're missing on because we don't know who they are.
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I don't know if we recruited her or not. I do know she committed there over a year ago, so if he's just finding out about this via tweet, I have to wonder how close he is to her.
She plays for KC Power, which is the best club in the country. The team brooke played on had every player receive a D1 scholarship, including one who is coming here. We don't do as well with that club as any of us would like, I think we've had 5 or 6 signings from Power the last decade or so, but those girls all get recruited nationally. They aren't regional recruits we're missing on because we don't know who they are.
You dig yourself a hole with Power if they send their setter to KState & the staff screws her around. That was 7-8 years ago & still not forgotten.
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We've signed players from them in that timeline.
Post by: Dirty Deeds on October 24, 2020, 08:46:57 PM
Yes a few, the best being Anna Dixon, a legacy KStater.........I don't know if we recruited her or not. I do know she committed there over a year ago, so if he's just finding out about this via tweet, I have to wonder how close he is to her.
She plays for KC Power, which is the best club in the country. The team brooke played on had every player receive a D1 scholarship, including one who is coming here. We don't do as well with that club as any of us would like, I think we've had 5 or 6 signings from Power the last decade or so, but those girls all get recruited nationally. They aren't regional recruits we're missing on because we don't know who they are.
You dig yourself a hole with Power if they send their setter to KState & the staff screws her around. That was 7-8 years ago & still not forgotten.
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We've signed players from them in that timeline.
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Unfortunately, there isn't much to win this season, no tournament so the prize we're looking for is second in the conference.
There is going to be a tournament in the spring, but likely only Texas and Baylor will make it because it will be 48 teams instead of 64.
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Post by: Kid In the Hall on May 06, 2021, 12:32:37 PM
So five transfers and four of them have already graduated. Not ideal, but not a crisis either.
Pretty much sums up Fritz's work the last 5-10 years.