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Title: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: pissclams on October 03, 2011, 10:29:14 AM
Is there really any difference between routers?

I need one that has a strong signal, wireless N capable. 

Wal-Mart has some for $30 and some for $100. 
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 03, 2011, 10:34:03 AM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003B48UQ8?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Not a bad deal, in the gold box.

Get a dual band one.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2011, 10:58:42 AM
Here's some good advice I found in another thread

just buy a good one.  make sure it is N and it will be fast (assuming you wireless card thing is N).   
you really don't need an N router, grab a G and you'll be fine.  donald trump.  /thread

the netgear G router they sell at wal-mart for $35 is easy to set up
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: pissclams on October 03, 2011, 11:17:41 AM
damn, missed the gold box.  someone came into my office.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: pissclams on October 03, 2011, 11:18:06 AM
Here's some good advice I found in another thread

just buy a good one.  make sure it is N and it will be fast (assuming you wireless card thing is N).   
you really don't need an N router, grab a G and you'll be fine.  donald trump.  /thread

the netgear G router they sell at wal-mart for $35 is easy to set up
ya but i need an N.  most people/situations don't.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: caliblue15 on October 03, 2011, 11:22:38 AM
Here's some good advice I found in another thread

just buy a good one.  make sure it is N and it will be fast (assuming you wireless card thing is N).   
you really don't need an N router, grab a G and you'll be fine.  donald trump.  /thread

the netgear G router they sell at wal-mart for $35 is easy to set up

Horrible advice. N>> G too many benefits to list.

As to answer the question, I am a fan on the Netgear N300 ( WNR3500L ). 300 Mbps and Gigabit Router. Easy setup too. Goes for about $70 on amazon.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: hemmy on October 03, 2011, 11:27:04 AM
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1226866

boom.  by the way, there is a chap named stevedave on that website.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: pissclams on October 03, 2011, 12:55:30 PM
Here's some good advice I found in another thread

just buy a good one.  make sure it is N and it will be fast (assuming you wireless card thing is N).   
you really don't need an N router, grab a G and you'll be fine.  donald trump.  /thread

the netgear G router they sell at wal-mart for $35 is easy to set up

Horrible advice. N>> G too many benefits to list.

As to answer the question, I am a fan on the Netgear N300 ( WNR3500L ). 300 Mbps and Gigabit Router. Easy setup too. Goes for about $70 on amazon.
you really don't know what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2011, 01:05:30 PM
donald trump.  /thread
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: pissclams on October 03, 2011, 01:09:49 PM
^horrible advice.   /trumped.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: pissclams on October 03, 2011, 03:20:50 PM
I want to put a HDD behind the router and connect it to the router with a USB 3.0 port.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 03, 2011, 03:23:37 PM
I want to put a HDD behind the router and connect it to the router with a USB 3.0 port.
Good idea!
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: pissclams on October 03, 2011, 03:36:50 PM
thanks, is there special software the router would need to do that?  or is it just plug and play?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 03, 2011, 03:41:53 PM
thanks, is there special software the router would need to do that?  or is it just plug and play?
Don't know, should work fine though, think the router has some software that comes w/ it?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 03, 2011, 03:42:13 PM
i mean, I just plug in a hard drive and share that crap
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: pissclams on October 03, 2011, 03:44:20 PM
alright.  i guess all the security software will be built into the router firewall.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 03, 2011, 03:46:08 PM
alright.  i guess all the security software will be built into the router firewall.
yep, all you will have to do is download your new IP address and you'll be sharing files like nobodies business
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: j rake on October 03, 2011, 07:42:14 PM
linksys!
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Fuktard on October 04, 2011, 04:55:36 AM
not sure if this helps or not but I just got a new one and it's pretty good. 
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: fatty fat fat on October 04, 2011, 05:08:51 AM
linksys!

netgear!!
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: pissclams on October 04, 2011, 09:22:11 PM
ok.  is there any dual band N router with USB 3.0 that anyone wants to recommendo?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: CHONGS on October 05, 2011, 07:08:32 AM
http://www.asus.com/Networks/Wireless_Routers/RTN56U/

usb2.0 but still really worth the money
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 05, 2011, 07:51:37 AM
USB 3.0, kind of pointless right now.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Tobias on October 05, 2011, 07:54:48 AM
kinda doubt usb 2.0 is gonna be a bottleneck on your wireless router
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: pissclams on October 05, 2011, 08:01:10 AM
USB 3.0, kind of pointless right now.

k, i read that external hdd transfers can be slow so i wanted to make sure and give it the most bandwidth i could.


the whole reason why i am dealing with this is because my router (airport extreme) has decided to only assign one IP address at a time. so i can't hit the internet with more than one device at a time.  on the 2nd device, i'll get a "Self-Assigned IP Address"
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 05, 2011, 08:02:30 AM
USB 3.0, kind of pointless right now.

k, i read that external hdd transfers can be slow so i wanted to make sure and give it the most bandwidth i could.


the whole reason why i am dealing with this is because my router (airport extreme) has decided to only assign one IP address at a time. so i can't hit the internet with more than one device at a time.  on the 2nd device, i'll get a "Self-Assigned IP Address"
Have you attempted to troubleshoot this issue?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Trim on October 05, 2011, 08:05:09 AM
USB 3.0, kind of pointless right now.

k, i read that external hdd transfers can be slow so i wanted to make sure and give it the most bandwidth i could.


the whole reason why i am dealing with this is because my router (airport extreme) has decided to only assign one IP address at a time. so i can't hit the internet with more than one device at a time.  on the 2nd device, i'll get a "Self-Assigned IP Address"
Have you attempted to troubleshoot this issue?

No crap.  clams, just have saul and brad fix it for you.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: pissclams on October 05, 2011, 08:15:38 AM
of course i have tried to troubleshoot it.  obv not very good with networking stuff. 
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 05, 2011, 08:21:00 AM
I bet your DHCP range is set to like...one number.

Check stuff in the DHCP settings.

If that doesn't work try assigning a static IP to the second device. IP address could be something like 192.168.1.45, gateway to 192.168.1.1 and subnet mask to 255.255.255.0
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: pissclams on October 05, 2011, 08:36:06 AM
i'll take a look at that tonight.  its hard to troubleshoot because i get into the router and lose my internet connection so i can't research while i'm working on it.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 05, 2011, 08:39:38 AM
If all else fails:

http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=98
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Stupid Fitz on October 05, 2011, 11:33:15 AM
I have a router thingy question. I bought a middle version router at best buy. Netgear prob $65? I dont get that great of signal up in my bedroom even though it said I should on the box. Should I buy a booster thingy, or a new, more powerful router thingy?  I also want the least amount of cancer these thingys are probably giving me.

Thanks
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 05, 2011, 11:35:03 AM
I have a router thingy question. I bought a middle version router at best buy. Netgear prob $65? I dont get that great of signal up in my bedroom even though it said I should on the box. Should I buy a booster thingy, or a new, more powerful router thingy?  I also want the least amount of cancer these thingys are probably giving me.

Thanks
Try changing the channel in the router interface. Should be 1-11 or something like that. There might be interference on one of the channels that is hurting your signal.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Stupid Fitz on October 05, 2011, 12:02:31 PM
I have a router thingy question. I bought a middle version router at best buy. Netgear prob $65? I dont get that great of signal up in my bedroom even though it said I should on the box. Should I buy a booster thingy, or a new, more powerful router thingy?  I also want the least amount of cancer these thingys are probably giving me.

Thanks
Try changing the channel in the router interface. Should be 1-11 or something like that. There might be interference on one of the channels that is hurting your signal.

Buy a new one huh, thanks
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 05, 2011, 12:22:05 PM
I have a router thingy question. I bought a middle version router at best buy. Netgear prob $65? I dont get that great of signal up in my bedroom even though it said I should on the box. Should I buy a booster thingy, or a new, more powerful router thingy?  I also want the least amount of cancer these thingys are probably giving me.

Thanks
Try changing the channel in the router interface. Should be 1-11 or something like that. There might be interference on one of the channels that is hurting your signal.

Buy a new one huh, thanks
Dual band next time.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Stupid Fitz on October 05, 2011, 12:35:31 PM
What does that do?  I just want to be able to bbs in bed?  So I shouldn't get a thingy to boost the signal, I should just get a dual band one and this will fix everything? 
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: CHONGS on October 05, 2011, 05:50:24 PM
hey idiots buy the one I recommended
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: puniraptor on October 05, 2011, 07:48:03 PM
Pretty much all the same. Just get Great Value or some crap.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on October 06, 2011, 07:06:12 AM
hey idiots buy the one I recommended

I may.  I have a single band N but it gets all jacked up when we are streaming on our WD and both on our laptops. 
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on November 11, 2011, 09:40:02 AM
http://gizmodo.com/5858622/netgear-wndr4500-wi+fi-router-review-simply-the-best
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: pissclams on November 11, 2011, 10:12:45 AM
thx, buying now.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: hemmy on November 11, 2011, 01:32:51 PM
ASUS RT-N56U is faster and cheaper.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 11, 2011, 01:47:04 PM
http://gizmodo.com/5858622/netgear-wndr4500-wi+fi-router-review-simply-the-best

$180?   GFTOMF
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: pissclams on November 11, 2011, 01:58:25 PM
ASUS RT-N56U is faster and cheaper.

and shittier
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: pissclams on November 11, 2011, 01:58:52 PM
and not as fast
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on November 11, 2011, 02:36:48 PM
ASUS RT-N56U is faster and cheaper.

if by faster you meant slower then you are correct

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/reviews/netgear_wndr4500_wi-fi_router_review

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/reviews/asus_rt-n56u_dual-band_wireless_router_review
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Trim on November 11, 2011, 02:38:01 PM
Make sure Saul knows how to remotely fix it before making your final decision.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: pissclams on November 11, 2011, 03:22:18 PM
ASUS RT-N56U is faster and cheaper.

if by faster you meant slower then you are correct

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/reviews/netgear_wndr4500_wi-fi_router_review

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/reviews/asus_rt-n56u_dual-band_wireless_router_review

hemmy is going to hax the router software and make it triple as fast.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2013, 08:41:23 PM
Which of these is better?

http://www.amazon.com/RT-AC66U-Dual-Band-Wireless-AC1750-Gigabit-Router/dp/B008ABOJKS

http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-EA6500-Dual-Band-Router-Gigabit/dp/B008I21EA2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1365817067&sr=8-1&keywords=linksys+ac
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: XocolateThundarr on April 12, 2013, 08:50:21 PM
Which of these is better?

http://www.amazon.com/RT-AC66U-Dual-Band-Wireless-AC1750-Gigabit-Router/dp/B008ABOJKS

http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-EA6500-Dual-Band-Router-Gigabit/dp/B008I21EA2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1365817067&sr=8-1&keywords=linksys+ac

Not sure SD, however I bought one of these so I can stream Bluray movies on my home network and it works great.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/21345669?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=&wl3=21486607510&wl4=&wl5=pla&veh=sem

Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: sys on April 12, 2013, 08:57:25 PM
Which of these is better?

http://www.amazon.com/RT-AC66U-Dual-Band-Wireless-AC1750-Gigabit-Router/dp/B008ABOJKS

http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-EA6500-Dual-Band-Router-Gigabit/dp/B008I21EA2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1365817067&sr=8-1&keywords=linksys+ac

a poltical moderate, non-libertarian once told me to buy linksys routers, because that's what saul likes.  i followed that advice, and as far as i know, it was good advice.
Title: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2013, 09:30:48 PM
Hmmm, thanks sys
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: sys on April 12, 2013, 10:12:18 PM
Hmmm, thanks sys

glad to be of help.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: CHONGS on April 13, 2013, 12:15:35 AM
I already told you to buy the God damn asus one. eff.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: bones129 on April 13, 2013, 12:31:42 AM

As Patrick Swayze once said, in Roadhouse, "Opinions vary."
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Super PurpleCat on April 13, 2013, 10:06:02 AM
Late to thread but I have an Apple AirPort Extreme (http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD031LL/A/airport-extreme-base-station?fnode=4d) because it's badass and because I'm  :kstategrad: emaw.

Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: ednksu on April 13, 2013, 07:10:40 PM
Should have bought the Asus.  Linksys has been in the shitter since Cisco ruined them.  They seem to be getting better, but Asus has had great reviews.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: kim carnes on April 13, 2013, 07:12:42 PM
it doesn't matter.  they all work the same.  they all follow the same IEEE standards.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: ednksu on April 13, 2013, 07:24:56 PM
it doesn't matter.  they all work the same.  they all follow the same IEEE standards.
:lol:
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on June 07, 2013, 04:35:16 PM
I now have an AC router and no devices that can utilize it yet  :D Saul, be available tomorrow all day to field questions when I try to set up my home network again. TIA.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: j-von on June 07, 2013, 11:56:16 PM
EasyTomato (http://www.easytomato.org/) along with the compatible Asus router that it was designed for has been awesome for me. 
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 12, 2013, 02:56:24 PM
alright, my turn.

just got internets (20 Mbps max) from TWC. the router/modem combo they gave me sucks ass. im very capable of going to best buy and asking that geeky dude to give me one but i bet theres something better on the web out there. looking to spend around $100 max.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: star seed 7 on June 12, 2013, 02:57:52 PM
alright, my turn.

just got internets (20 Mbps max) from TWC. the router/modem combo they gave me sucks ass. im very capable of going to best buy and asking that geeky dude to give me one but i bet theres something better on the web out there. looking to spend around $100 max.

what makes it "sucks ass"?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: michigancat on June 03, 2017, 01:01:55 PM
I have a very old router and I think it messes up my wireless printer. And sometimes there are weird disconnects. What should I buy to replace it? Keep in mind I have a pretty small house and most of the internetting is done in the same room as the router (or very close to it).
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 04, 2017, 10:53:17 PM
I replaced an older Linksys with this last fall.

https://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/wifi-routers/R7000.aspx

It's in their midrange.  I've been pleased.   We do streaming (1 Roku, 1 Chromecast, 1 SmartTV), 2 Laptops, an Ipad, and an Apple Desktop, plus Wi-Fi calling on our cellphones, as well as 2 HP wireless printers.   No issues, no disconnects, easy setup.

Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Saulbadguy on June 05, 2017, 06:48:41 AM
I have a very old router and I think it messes up my wireless printer. And sometimes there are weird disconnects. What should I buy to replace it? Keep in mind I have a pretty small house and most of the internetting is done in the same room as the router (or very close to it).
Yes
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on June 05, 2017, 07:39:27 AM
I have this one. would recommend.

https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/RT-AC66U-B1/
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: michigancat on June 05, 2017, 09:00:18 AM
I have a very old router and I think it messes up my wireless printer. And sometimes there are weird disconnects. What should I buy to replace it? Keep in mind I have a pretty small house and most of the internetting is done in the same room as the router (or very close to it).
Yes

Were you yessing dax's recommendo?

thank you for the tips, friends. I might update the ol' cable modem at the same time.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: SdK on June 05, 2017, 09:10:24 AM
Can you just do a router/modem combo? I had a small (650 sqft) apt in Topeka and the one I got from cox worked just fine. I had 5ghz all the way to the parking lot as well.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: michigancat on June 05, 2017, 09:12:53 AM
Can you just do a router/modem combo? I had a small (650 sqft) apt in Topeka and the one I got from cox worked just fine. I had 5ghz all the way to the parking lot as well.
Maybe? I need someone else to tell me the answer to that.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: michigancat on June 05, 2017, 09:13:24 AM
I know I avoided renting from xfinity because it is a ripoff.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: SdK on June 05, 2017, 09:15:08 AM
Im not up on all of the technology. I'm sure someone else can answer it better as far as the quality. Had it for a year. Never had an issue. Would save on space/etc. Just a point to ponder. Good luck.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: ChiComCat on June 05, 2017, 09:16:38 AM
If you get one from your cable provider then you pay probably $20 a month for the privilege.  Just buy the exact same one and save the money.

I got a google onhub wireless router and my speed tripled (my old one was probably 5 years old).  I think google has already moved on to those pucks though.  I just get whatever modem the internet company recommends.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: SdK on June 05, 2017, 09:19:14 AM
You are correct. I just searched for xfinitycompatible modem/routers. Came up with a fair amount of results. Wish I knew more.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: SdK on June 05, 2017, 09:20:57 AM
Yeah. What ChiCat said more succinctly.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: hatingfrancisco on June 05, 2017, 04:42:36 PM
Can you just do a router/modem combo? I had a small (650 sqft) apt in Topeka and the one I got from cox worked just fine. I had 5ghz all the way to the parking lot as well.
Maybe? I need someone else to tell me the answer to that.

The long answer is it really depends on your usage.  The short answer is yes you can totally do that. 
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: michigancat on June 05, 2017, 04:52:16 PM
Can you just do a router/modem combo? I had a small (650 sqft) apt in Topeka and the one I got from cox worked just fine. I had 5ghz all the way to the parking lot as well.
Maybe? I need someone else to tell me the answer to that.

The long answer is it really depends on your usage.  The short answer is yes you can totally do that.

It looked like xfinity didn't support a modem/wireless combo for my service so I just bought a supported cable modem and sd's router.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on June 05, 2017, 04:54:48 PM
Good choice
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: cfbandyman on June 05, 2017, 05:22:24 PM
I have this one. would recommend.

https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/RT-AC66U-B1/

I have their just step down version RT-AC51U, and it's pretty damn good,. I have a 1800sqft house so I get coverage easily all over my house, and all over my yard. Love it.

Also glad I paired with with the 16 channel motorola modem (don't have the part # on me) but also glad I didn't rent, eff that.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: michigancat on June 06, 2017, 12:56:28 AM
damn I got it delivered already and did a speed test and went from 70mps to 180mps. :eek:
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: SdK on June 06, 2017, 09:26:39 AM
:thumbs:
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 30, 2019, 08:36:36 PM
What’s the new hot POA everybody is talking about these days?  It’s time for a refresh.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on May 30, 2019, 08:54:14 PM
it's not hot or new but I have google wifi with three spots across my mcmansion and it has very good coverage. I had some fancy asus thing with over a billion antennas that was supposed to be hot crap but I had dead spots in my place. I work from home and need fast AF internet in whichever bathroom I'm spending time in and this does that for me like the porcupine looking asus thing didn't.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 30, 2019, 09:01:31 PM
Hmm
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on May 30, 2019, 09:05:14 PM
plus a 3 pack was cheaper than the asus thing on its own. $250 for 3 which covers a giant area. BUT, it only has one ethernet port per deal so I have an ethernet switch from the main one for my sonos, shared storage thing, hard wire ethernet stuff, etc. to run off of. but that's like $20 on amazon.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 30, 2019, 09:12:59 PM
I bought a 100’ cat6 to hardwire in my main office for my new place. I had Ethernet jacks in every room and paid Cox like $100 to get them all hot in MHK.  I don’t have Ethernet jacks in every room in my new place :frown:

My issue is the latency being at 35ms right now over WiFi!  :angry:  that’s unacceptable
Title: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on May 31, 2019, 06:32:36 AM
When we built our house I had cat 6 run to everything.


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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: 8manpick on May 31, 2019, 07:19:50 AM
DBT, let me know what you get and if it is good. I’ll need a new one in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: star seed 7 on May 31, 2019, 07:23:55 AM
I just roll with the standard Google router they give you. It's fine.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: XocolateThundarr on May 31, 2019, 08:18:11 AM
I have this one at our house.  It seems to be working very well with great range.

https://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/wifi-routers/R8000.aspx
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: dmartin on May 31, 2019, 09:39:22 AM
https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/deco/deco-m5/

We put this into our house a while back and love it. Covers all of the basement, ground floor, garage, and back yard.  I also like being able to shut off the kid's internet at the push of a button from my phone until they get their grades back up (or if they're being little asses and I just want to flex my power on them).
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: ChiComCat on May 31, 2019, 09:54:58 AM
Orbi mesh is refurbished on woot today. 
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Trim on May 31, 2019, 09:58:15 AM
I think I'm going to need a range extender that can plug in right by the balcony for that pellet grill.  The wifi transmitter on the one I got was busted and they're sending another one, but even if it works perfect and connects with where my router has to be, I'll be more comfortable knowing I have a much closer connection when it comes to being away from my place and hoping the thing works with respect to controlling fire.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Trim on June 03, 2019, 11:58:12 AM
The main router I have is a dual band and it had been set where both bands had the same name and all devices could figure out whether to be on the 2.4 or 5.0.  As part of the troubleshooting for the smoker, they had me give the 2 bands different names so that I could be sure the smoker was connecting on 2.4. 

Now, when I go get some sort of range extender that will plug into the electric outlet right by the deck, should I get one that's 2.4 only, which seems rare?  If I get one that's the more typical dual-band, is there a similar step I'll have to take to have it properly recognizing and segregating the 2 bands or will it figure it out on its own?

I'm kind of hoping that with the range extender, I could go back to not having the 2 bands with different names and that having the thing 6 feet from the extender will allow it to do whatever it does and get on the right band just like everything else does.

Saul?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Saulbadguy on June 03, 2019, 12:18:11 PM
If the smoker is only 2.4ghz capable it can't see the 5.0ghz band. It's impossible. It would only join 2.4ghz, so any extender should do fine.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Trim on June 03, 2019, 12:45:16 PM
If the smoker is only 2.4ghz capable it can't see the 5.0ghz band. It's impossible. It would only join 2.4ghz, so any extender should do fine.

T-Y.  I'm thinking that even having to segregate the bands was just some bullshit the smoker guy said to distract from that the range on the thing sucks ball(s).  Once I get it, I'm gonna switch the bands back how I had them and see if it mattered.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on June 03, 2019, 01:26:10 PM
This smoker is like Star Trek level.


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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: hatingfrancisco on June 03, 2019, 02:07:13 PM
If the smoker is only 2.4ghz capable it can't see the 5.0ghz band. It's impossible. It would only join 2.4ghz, so any extender should do fine.

T-Y.  I'm thinking that even having to segregate the bands was just some bullshit the smoker guy said to distract from that the range on the thing sucks ball(s).  Once I get it, I'm gonna switch the bands back how I had them and see if it mattered.

Traeger states this as a troubleshooting tip.  If it truly only has a 2.4 radio in the grill then it shouldn't matter.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Trim on June 03, 2019, 03:53:21 PM
If the smoker is only 2.4ghz capable it can't see the 5.0ghz band. It's impossible. It would only join 2.4ghz, so any extender should do fine.

T-Y.  I'm thinking that even having to segregate the bands was just some bullshit the smoker guy said to distract from that the range on the thing sucks ball(s).  Once I get it, I'm gonna switch the bands back how I had them and see if it mattered.

Traeger states this as a troubleshooting tip.  If it truly only has a 2.4 radio in the grill then it shouldn't matter.

Do you mean that Traeger says the same thing my guys did and that it's equally bullshit?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: hatingfrancisco on June 03, 2019, 04:23:52 PM
If the smoker is only 2.4ghz capable it can't see the 5.0ghz band. It's impossible. It would only join 2.4ghz, so any extender should do fine.

T-Y.  I'm thinking that even having to segregate the bands was just some bullshit the smoker guy said to distract from that the range on the thing sucks ball(s).  Once I get it, I'm gonna switch the bands back how I had them and see if it mattered.

Traeger states this as a troubleshooting tip.  If it truly only has a 2.4 radio in the grill then it shouldn't matter.

Do you mean that Traeger says the same thing my guys did and that it's equally bullshit?

Yeah it's bullshit.
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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Trim on June 03, 2019, 04:32:09 PM
:thumbs:

Good, splitting them into 2 names has kind of been a pain in the ass for everything else.

Pick me the most simple and effective thing for this project that is sold at Office Depot.  T-Y.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: hatingfrancisco on June 03, 2019, 04:59:02 PM
:thumbs:

Good, splitting them into 2 names has kind of been a pain in the ass for everything else.

Pick me the most simple and effective thing for this project that is sold at Office Depot.  T-Y.

Strictly for this purpose? I would go cheap:

https://www.officedepot.com/a/products/138871/TP-Link-N300-Wireless-Wi-Fi/ (https://www.officedepot.com/a/products/138871/TP-Link-N300-Wireless-Wi-Fi/)



Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Trim on June 03, 2019, 05:21:17 PM
Cool, I think that’s the one I was thinking when this first came up Friday and is the one that’s 2.4 only, which should work great for this specifically.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Trim on June 03, 2019, 05:25:16 PM
Oh hey this reminded me, in the course of moving a couple months ago I found a little bag with dart tips and stuff for that blacklight dart board I think you got either at anFattyFest or my purge of stuff when I moved from Kansas. I’ll find it again and bring it to FattyFest.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: hatingfrancisco on June 04, 2019, 07:47:48 AM
Oh hey this reminded me, in the course of moving a couple months ago I found a little bag with dart tips and stuff for that blacklight dart board I think you got either at anFattyFest or my purge of stuff when I moved from Kansas. I’ll find it again and bring it to FattyFest.

Nobody in my house will own up to it but I have a theory that someone was working on their spirals and hurled a football at that thing a while back and pretty much destroyed it.   :cry:

Whatever happened I am sure it went down in a blaze of glory.   So you can do what you want with those tips.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Trim on June 04, 2019, 08:17:33 PM
Bought that extender, reverted my wifi bands to having the same name and password and tested a bit.  Looks like it'll work but I don't have time tonight to have this going for 6 hours to see if it sticks.

I'm getting the sense that I WILL need to go back to segregating the bands.  When I'm moving around my place, my phone loses the wifi connection at times, and I think maybe that it's going from the 5.0 it's on normally to the 2.4 as I get closer to where the extender is.  I need my phone to be on the same 2.4 band as the smoker to keep control over it, so I'm thinking if I segregate them I can specify my phone to stay on the 2.4 and not have it bouncing around and losing connect with the smoker.  Pretend I'm not a main administrator and advise if that make sense.

I'm gonna at least stay as is until my first attempt to make something, but kind of want to know if that will be the quick fix should I need it.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on June 05, 2019, 06:32:15 AM
Google Wifi mesh irl will solve this


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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: hatingfrancisco on June 05, 2019, 09:35:27 AM
Bought that extender, reverted my wifi bands to having the same name and password and tested a bit.  Looks like it'll work but I don't have time tonight to have this going for 6 hours to see if it sticks.

I'm getting the sense that I WILL need to go back to segregating the bands.  When I'm moving around my place, my phone loses the wifi connection at times, and I think maybe that it's going from the 5.0 it's on normally to the 2.4 as I get closer to where the extender is.  I need my phone to be on the same 2.4 band as the smoker to keep control over it, so I'm thinking if I segregate them I can specify my phone to stay on the 2.4 and not have it bouncing around and losing connect with the smoker.  Pretend I'm not a main administrator and advise if that make sense.

I'm gonna at least stay as is until my first attempt to make something, but kind of want to know if that will be the quick fix should I need it.

You don't need to be on the same band as the smoker.
Without knowing what kind of signal strength you have in these areas its hard to say exactly what your issue is.  2.4 kind of sucks and you run into alot of issues in regards to interference  with that band compared to 5 ghz.  Microwaves are notorious for causing problems in 2.4. 

Are you an iphone or android guy?  There are wifi scanner apps out there that will show you signal strength for each band and that can help identify if the problem is signal strength related or not. 

Wifi Analyzer for Android (free)
Network Analyzer for iOS (3.99) 

running that will give you a sense of what kind of signal issues you have. 





Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Trim on June 05, 2019, 09:53:45 AM
You don't need to be on the same band as the smoker.
Without knowing what kind of signal strength you have in these areas its hard to say exactly what your issue is.  2.4 kind of sucks and you run into alot of issues in regards to interference  with that band compared to 5 ghz.  Microwaves are notorious for causing problems in 2.4. 

Are you an iphone or android guy?  There are wifi scanner apps out there that will show you signal strength for each band and that can help identify if the problem is signal strength related or not. 

Wifi Analyzer for Android (free)
Network Analyzer for iOS (3.99) 

running that will give you a sense of what kind of signal issues you have. 

If that first part is correct, then I think the problem is solved.  As far as I could tell yesterday, I was staying connected despite me and my phone moving around and presumably switching between 2.4 and 5, but I didn't test it for more than a couple minutes.  I was just expecting I might have the problem over the course of 4-8 hours.

Am I misreading or mishearing what the grill people are telling me, or are they just dumb/liars?

I guess I could still see there being some benefit to segregating the bands if my phone keeps flopping between bands as I get closer to the balcony where the extender is and cutting out my connection momentarily, but I'll burn that bridge and light the way if I keep coming to it.

Other than this grill, I've had no range/signal issues.  I've got all new crap from Xfinity and it's a 1-bedroom condo that's like 1/4 the size of a house that might need all extenders, mesh, etc. for normal stuff.  But I did happen to download that wifi analyzer app yesterday; my buddy who's coming over Saturday for a test run on the grill while we finish off all the remaining 2-person tasks I need to do to finish being moved in told me to get it so we can test if necessary.  But I think this ticket is on the verge of being closed.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: dmartin on June 05, 2019, 10:24:24 AM
Not sure if it's possible on your extender, but could you mac address filter the extender so that only your grille would link to it?  basically banning your phone from connecting to it?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Trim on June 05, 2019, 10:28:04 AM
Not sure if it's possible on your extender, but could you mac address filter the extender so that only your grille would link to it?  basically banning your phone from connecting to it?

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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: hatingfrancisco on June 05, 2019, 10:51:08 AM
If that first part is correct, then I think the problem is solved.  As far as I could tell yesterday, I was staying connected despite me and my phone moving around and presumably switching between 2.4 and 5, but I didn't test it for more than a couple minutes.  I was just expecting I might have the problem over the course of 4-8 hours.

The only reason both devices would need to be on the same channel would be if the communication went like this:

phone -> smoker

since it's this:
phone -> wireless router -> repeater -> smoker
no concerns

Am I misreading or mishearing what the grill people are telling me, or are they just dumb/liars?

Well I mean Traeger did post that split name nonsense publicly on their web site so.....

1-bedroom condo that's like 1/4 the size of a house that might need all extenders, mesh, etc. for normal stuff.  But I did happen to download that wifi analyzer app yesterday; my buddy who's coming over Saturday for a test run on the grill while we finish off all the remaining 2-person tasks I need to do to finish being moved in told me to get it so we can test if necessary.  But I think this ticket is on the verge of being closed.
Yeah I would assume you are probably right but it's never a bad idea to do a walk through to see what kind of signal you get.  Also if it's a condo and there are other wifi routers in the building within earshot of yours they could all be contending for the same airtime so knowing what channels are being used and not used is good info.  Phones are great to test with because they generally have the lowest power radios of any device you will see in your home (Laptops have higher power radios compared to phones and other iOT devices (like that grill)

Ideally you want to see a received signal strength better than -70 everywhere with the best strengths trending towards zero (-60 -50 RSSI etc)  Where this falls is key to the kind of speeds you will see as the worse the signal gets the more the data rate goes down and speed slows to a crawl.



Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: SleepFighter on June 05, 2019, 11:01:20 AM
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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: XocolateThundarr on June 05, 2019, 11:16:21 AM
Also may need to change the channel that your wifi is broadcasting on too if others are similar. 
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Trim on June 05, 2019, 11:17:53 AM
If that first part is correct, then I think the problem is solved.  As far as I could tell yesterday, I was staying connected despite me and my phone moving around and presumably switching between 2.4 and 5, but I didn't test it for more than a couple minutes.  I was just expecting I might have the problem over the course of 4-8 hours.

The only reason both devices would need to be on the same channel would be if the communication went like this:

phone -> smoker

since it's this:
phone -> wireless router -> repeater -> smoker
no concerns

Am I misreading or mishearing what the grill people are telling me, or are they just dumb/liars?

Well I mean Traeger did post that split name nonsense publicly on their web site so.....

1-bedroom condo that's like 1/4 the size of a house that might need all extenders, mesh, etc. for normal stuff.  But I did happen to download that wifi analyzer app yesterday; my buddy who's coming over Saturday for a test run on the grill while we finish off all the remaining 2-person tasks I need to do to finish being moved in told me to get it so we can test if necessary.  But I think this ticket is on the verge of being closed.
Yeah I would assume you are probably right but it's never a bad idea to do a walk through to see what kind of signal you get.  Also if it's a condo and there are other wifi routers in the building within earshot of yours they could all be contending for the same airtime so knowing what channels are being used and not used is good info.  Phones are great to test with because they generally have the lowest power radios of any device you will see in your home (Laptops have higher power radios compared to phones and other iOT devices (like that grill)

Ideally you want to see a received signal strength better than -70 everywhere with the best strengths trending towards zero (-60 -50 RSSI etc)  Where this falls is key to the kind of speeds you will see as the worse the signal gets the more the data rate goes down and speed slows to a crawl.





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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: hatingfrancisco on June 05, 2019, 11:27:20 AM
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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Trim on June 05, 2019, 11:32:43 AM
Also may need to change the channel that your wifi is broadcasting on too if others are similar. 

Cool, these are all things I vaguely understand and match what the irl person who will be here Saturday was saying. I think I have everything we’ll need to knock this out.

Also just occurred to me that if any of this smoker/extender stuff is causing any non-smoker things to be janky, I could simply unplug the range extender all the time I’m not smoking.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Trim on June 05, 2019, 11:35:11 AM
Google Wifi mesh irl will solve this


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Title: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: DaBigTrain on June 05, 2019, 07:58:56 PM
Google Wifi mesh irl will solve this


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Because I KNOW everyone is just waiting for me to talk about it more...mesh networks are being explored for Bitcoin in censorship resistent countries as the last mile.  Like in places like North Korea and China.

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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: 'taterblast on April 05, 2021, 08:33:56 AM
i need stronger signal on my third floor and toward the back door of my first floor. mesh wifi systems recently exploded into my awareness and i'm leaning toward Nest Wifi Mesh Router.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: ChiComCat on April 05, 2021, 08:39:20 AM
This guy works well for me.  The only issue is the extenders don't have an ethernet plug on them if you have anything you need to hardwire.  No idea if it's better than what you're looking at but I like it.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/linksys-velop-ac1300-dual-band-mesh-wi-fi-5-system-3-pack-white/6215341.p?skuId=6215341&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=1101&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1268652&gclid=CjwKCAjw6qqDBhB-EiwACBs6x3h6guLDb3QRsc7W2QCtN4EAKScBeJzDnQKVGQKJjS9Gja4Hvi-WdxoC-GYQAvD_BwE&gc

Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2021, 09:04:59 AM
i need stronger signal on my third floor and toward the back door of my first floor. mesh wifi systems recently exploded into my awareness and i'm leaning toward Nest Wifi Mesh Router.
I have this with three adnl mesh points (one wired) and it rules.


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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: michigancat on April 05, 2021, 11:06:29 AM
i need stronger signal on my third floor and toward the back door of my first floor. mesh wifi systems recently exploded into my awareness and i'm leaning toward Nest Wifi Mesh Router.
Third floor??? Why not have the estate's IT department take care of it?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: 'taterblast on April 05, 2021, 02:15:19 PM
i need stronger signal on my third floor and toward the back door of my first floor. mesh wifi systems recently exploded into my awareness and i'm leaning toward Nest Wifi Mesh Router.
I have this with three adnl mesh points (one wired) and it rules.


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this has probably been answered itt, but do the three mesh points all use the same network and password? like, i don't have to connect to a different network to use the separate mesh points, correct?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2021, 02:19:22 PM
i need stronger signal on my third floor and toward the back door of my first floor. mesh wifi systems recently exploded into my awareness and i'm leaning toward Nest Wifi Mesh Router.
I have this with three adnl mesh points (one wired) and it rules.


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this has probably been answered itt, but do the three mesh points all use the same network and password? like, i don't have to connect to a different network to use the separate mesh points, correct?

no, it's very seamless. there is no difference than having just one router from an experience standpoint (other than more range obviously). I even unplugged one that my wife was using for a video call the other day and her call never dropped or stuttered. just switched over to the next best signal and kept going. you can check on the app which one you are connected to and what the signal strength is to move them around to optimize the spot for them. I have a wired one on the second floor and a wired one on the main floor hooked to the modem. wireless one plugged in next to my kids switch in the family room and a wireless one in the basement. we probably don't need 4 and three would be just fine but we have that many so I'm using that many.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: 'taterblast on April 05, 2021, 02:26:46 PM
 :thumbs:

in your experience, does the mesh point relay the exact quality of the signal it receives, or does it truly "boost" it?

ex. i've done a speed test with my laptop from the spot on the third floor where i think the mesh point would go, and the signal seems fairly pud. would the mesh point boost that strength or just relay what it receives?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 05, 2021, 02:43:42 PM
Just a friendly reminder to the board.  You can mesh network all day long and twice on Sunday to try and avoid the government, but if they control the actual access to the Internet itself. . . welp, hate it for ya.

Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: ChiComCat on April 05, 2021, 02:48:54 PM
I don't know that a mesh network has anything to do with avoiding the gov
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2021, 02:49:38 PM
:thumbs:

in your experience, does the mesh point relay the exact quality of the signal it receives, or does it truly "boost" it?

ex. i've done a speed test with my laptop from the spot on the third floor where i think the mesh point would go, and the signal seems fairly pud. would the mesh point boost that strength or just relay what it receives?

I'm not sure there. We got it because our basement TV wasn't getting a great signal so it would buffer occasionally. it made that never happen anymore. we have super fast internet though. like 800mb down. Cox "Gigablast". Giga seems like I would be getting 1gb down Cox you assholes but whatever.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: star seed 7 on April 05, 2021, 02:52:08 PM
Maybe "blast" is tech-speak for "but not really"?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: kim carnes on April 05, 2021, 02:52:58 PM
:thumbs:

in your experience, does the mesh point relay the exact quality of the signal it receives, or does it truly "boost" it?

ex. i've done a speed test with my laptop from the spot on the third floor where i think the mesh point would go, and the signal seems fairly pud. would the mesh point boost that strength or just relay what it receives?

As long as you space the nodes reasonably close together you’ll be money.  If you have three floors, then you’ll likely just need  three nodes.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: kim carnes on April 05, 2021, 02:55:29 PM
And yes they boost the signal, that’s the entire point of the system.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: 'taterblast on April 05, 2021, 03:00:36 PM
thank you all. i have 1gb Google but it seems to struggle going vertically through whatever our old ass house was constructed out of. i'm feeling confident the mesh would help.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: ChiComCat on April 05, 2021, 03:03:25 PM
My cox got 2-3x faster when updating my approx 5 year old router.  That's not to advocate for my particular set up, just updating to current hardware every few years.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: star seed 7 on April 05, 2021, 03:07:39 PM
If you use the Google internet box as a router also know it's straight trash and you can definitely up range and speed by replacing it. The mesh prob works fine too tho
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: 'taterblast on April 05, 2021, 03:10:24 PM
If you use the Google internet box as a router also know it's straight trash and you can definitely up range and speed by replacing it.

have heard this as well. probably going to spend a little extra and go for the mesh just to increase chances of success.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: star seed 7 on April 05, 2021, 03:37:41 PM
I would do both tbh
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: 'taterblast on April 06, 2021, 10:15:23 AM
I would do both tbh

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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: IPA4Me on May 06, 2021, 02:15:49 PM
Got the mesh network firing. Speedy even with Spectrum. 85 download. Now to add the security cameras.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210506/0b396634d8a237069117002ca5954d33.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: cfbandyman on May 07, 2021, 10:19:01 AM
My cox got 2-3x faster when updating my approx 5 year old router.  That's not to advocate for my particular set up, just updating to current hardware every few years.

I am probably due to do this with my router/modem soon as I have had both for 4 years (I paid for my own modem, eff paying that equipment fee, I've basically already paid for the damn thing nearly 2x over at this point). I just don't want to go through the hassle of switching everything over and reconnecting it all.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on May 07, 2021, 10:24:58 AM
It’s pretty simple tbh. Sounds scarier than it is.


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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: IPA4Me on May 07, 2021, 11:31:08 AM
Easy peezy setup. Home app does it all. Also, this thing is flying. My old router sucked taint apparently.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210507/6508a536d73c68f60e34a895b89c9d84.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: IPA4Me on May 07, 2021, 11:32:56 AM
Also, my personal modem (eff renting that bitch) is at least five years old. Will update it if I see degradation.

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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on May 07, 2021, 11:59:00 AM
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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: star seed 7 on May 07, 2021, 01:05:36 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: IPA4Me on May 07, 2021, 02:32:31 PM
Quite jelly. However, I live in the country. Our pipeline is smaller. I'm not a suburban king like Steve Dave. Plus, I only pay for 100G.

Is that Google Fiber?

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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on May 07, 2021, 03:05:36 PM
cox gigablast. it's the fastest thing they offer. it's way more than I need but I don't like to take chances.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Spracne on May 07, 2021, 03:31:38 PM
COX GIGABLAST!!
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: AST on May 08, 2021, 06:42:12 PM
We have had AT&T gig for years but I am technology hindered and did not realize we needed to get a router other than their’s to really take advantage of it.  Our connection would always drop out and then reconnect or or be buffering, even in the same room as the router.

Well, fast forward to a couple weeks ago and I installed Eero Pro 6.  My life is better.  Have not dropped connection once, no buffering, I am finally getting what I was paying for.  Only problem was connecting some lower bandwidth devices but the app is so easy, even I could do it.  As easy as disabling the higher bandwidth, and it automatically restores itself after it gives time for connection establishment:

10/10 would buy again.


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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on May 08, 2021, 07:33:20 PM
Nice


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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Kat Kid on May 02, 2022, 11:26:49 AM
ok folks, I am looking to upgrade internet. currently think I have the "up to 250 mbps" cox plan.

options:
1) nothing continue to pay $180/mo for ok not great internet
2) do something to upgrade service in home for xbox streaming etc. router? I'm a moron.
3) starlink???
4) gigablast for $200+/mo
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Justwin on May 02, 2022, 11:42:14 AM
ok folks, I am looking to upgrade internet. currently think I have the "up to 250 mbps" cox plan.

options:
1) nothing continue to pay $180/mo for ok not great internet
2) do something to upgrade service in home for xbox streaming etc. router? I'm a moron.
3) starlink???
4) gigablast for $200+/mo

Does that $180/mo include cable TV? I pay $56.49 a month for Cox 250 in MHK.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on May 02, 2022, 11:56:57 AM
I pay $180 for a massive cable package plus gigablast. They are taking advantage of you KK!
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Justwin on May 02, 2022, 12:15:18 PM
ok folks, I am looking to upgrade internet. currently think I have the "up to 250 mbps" cox plan.

options:
1) nothing continue to pay $180/mo for ok not great internet
2) do something to upgrade service in home for xbox streaming etc. router? I'm a moron.
3) starlink???
4) gigablast for $200+/mo

Gigablast is $92.49 a month plus $13 a month for Panoramic WiFi.
Title: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: ChiComCat on May 02, 2022, 12:19:11 PM
Buy my house when we move and get WTC fiber for way less
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Spracne on May 02, 2022, 01:15:18 PM
ok folks, I am looking to upgrade internet. currently think I have the "up to 250 mbps" cox plan.

options:
1) nothing continue to pay $180/mo for ok not great internet
2) do something to upgrade service in home for xbox streaming etc. router? I'm a moron.
3) starlink???
4) gigablast for $200+/mo

Need to know about your router situation first, because 250 should be more than enough. (I'd heard rumors of certain Speed Daemons on this board opting for a whopping 2 GIGS, but in my view that's not necessary unless you're transferring large amounts of data.)
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: pissclams on May 02, 2022, 02:00:06 PM
do both have data caps?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Kat Kid on May 02, 2022, 02:15:37 PM
ok folks, I am looking to upgrade internet. currently think I have the "up to 250 mbps" cox plan.

options:
1) nothing continue to pay $180/mo for ok not great internet
2) do something to upgrade service in home for xbox streaming etc. router? I'm a moron.
3) starlink???
4) gigablast for $200+/mo

Does that $180/mo include cable TV? I pay $56.49 a month for Cox 250 in MHK.

I need to call them, my wife is the account owner so I am not actually sure what we are signed up for, I just guesstimated based on their posted cost on website.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Kat Kid on May 02, 2022, 02:19:45 PM
https://www.cox.com/residential/internet/gigabit.html (https://www.cox.com/residential/internet/gigabit.html)

wait is this the gigablast?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: ChiComCat on May 02, 2022, 03:40:12 PM
I have Cox gigabit/blast whatever and I had to upgrade my router to get value out of it as my old one constrained the speed quite a bit.  I have data caps that I rarely hit, but occasionally do between working from home and doing all of my TV streaming.  I'm typically between 600-800 Mbps download speeds.

Router:
https://www.amazon.com/ARRIS-SURFboard-Approved-SB8200-Frustration/dp/B07DY16W2Z/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=2TBOLD7F5HJBS&keywords=sb8200&qid=1651523973&sprefix=sb8200%2Caps%2C332&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzMVVGVE5aUkRCTDdKJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwOTE4MzY2MTJFMVpGQ0lXSDJYVCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNjYxMjE2M0hCWDNDUjVFNElFSiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Kat Kid on May 02, 2022, 07:14:05 PM
Problems identified:

1) slow internet
2) old router/modem
3) paying too much

Steps taken to correct:

Bought a new modem (thanks for recommendo chicat!)

Bought a new router

Upgraded to gigablast and cancelled other stuff

All problems resolved
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Justwin on May 02, 2022, 07:16:27 PM
Problems identified:

1) slow internet
2) old router/modem
3) paying too much

Steps taken to correct:

Bought a new modem (thanks for recommendo chicat!)

Bought a new router

Upgraded to gigablast and cancelled other stuff

All problems resolved

Sounds like an extremely productive day!
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Kat Kid on May 02, 2022, 08:27:45 PM
I sacrificed  2 phone calls to cox customer service and a trip the Cox solutions store for my family to get fortnite dubs and be happy.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Kat Kid on May 07, 2022, 05:54:58 PM
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Stats update. Have I been had?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Spracne on May 07, 2022, 06:00:33 PM
I think so, yes.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Institutional Control on May 07, 2022, 06:02:38 PM
Why is the upload so slow?


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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Institutional Control on May 07, 2022, 06:03:21 PM
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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Spracne on May 07, 2022, 06:10:14 PM
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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Spracne on May 07, 2022, 06:11:33 PM
@pissclams needs to get in here and son these sons.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Kat Kid on May 07, 2022, 06:13:19 PM
That test was on my phone. Does that matter?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: pissclams on May 07, 2022, 06:33:18 PM
I don’t think i need to show anyone my 2Gb down/up so please don’t make me
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on May 07, 2022, 06:46:06 PM
Show it coward
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Kat Kid on May 07, 2022, 06:49:20 PM
Is my ping good? Damn it.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Kat Kid on May 07, 2022, 06:52:40 PM
Is my ping good? Damn it.
I have now googled and determined symmetrical speeds means fiber which my cowtown does not have. So whatever.
Title: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on May 07, 2022, 09:37:59 PM
Yeah, my gigablast is similar.

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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: TheHamburglar on May 08, 2022, 02:47:40 PM
I’ve never thought about my internet’s speed. I just tested mine on my phone. I have 20/1. The picture looks fine on my 10 years old HD TV that I watch about an hour a month.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Institutional Control on June 10, 2022, 02:08:52 PM
So, my dad has a shop about 40 feet from his house that he'd like to have wifi in.  He just has a basic router that won't quite reach to the shop.   A mesh routing system wouldn't be the best  for this situation, correct? Maybe just a repeater/extender closer to the shop?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on June 10, 2022, 02:15:19 PM
I think it could work. would allow you to place the base nearer the shop and the satellite ones in the shop and on the other side of the house.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: kim carnes on June 10, 2022, 02:17:45 PM
I feel like a mesh would still have trouble reaching, but the best chance of making it work is to have a node in the house closest to where the shop is
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: kim carnes on June 10, 2022, 02:20:19 PM
Going through two exterior walls will be tough
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on June 10, 2022, 02:36:01 PM
yeah, 40 ft may be close enough to just run Cat7 or whatever over there to a mesh satellite?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Institutional Control on June 10, 2022, 03:14:45 PM
Running a hardwire would probably be last resort.  I love my mesh routers at my house and I could set one up in the window nearest the shop and then another in the window of the shop probably.

Using a repeater or extender would essentially be a second network, right?  If he left his house and went to the shop, he'd have to switch networks?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on June 10, 2022, 03:38:18 PM
Running a hardwire would probably be last resort.  I love my mesh routers at my house and I could set one up in the window nearest the shop and then another in the window of the shop probably.

Using a repeater or extender would essentially be a second network, right?  If he left his house and went to the shop, he'd have to switch networks?
Yeah, those repeaters suck bigtime ass.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: star seed 7 on June 10, 2022, 03:38:42 PM
Running a hardwire would probably be last resort.  I love my mesh routers at my house and I could set one up in the window nearest the shop and then another in the window of the shop probably.

Using a repeater or extender would essentially be a second network, right?  If he left his house and went to the shop, he'd have to switch networks?

Yes
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Institutional Control on June 10, 2022, 03:41:33 PM
Thx, guys!
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Pete on July 16, 2022, 07:43:25 PM
Anyone have any experience with Starlink?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 17, 2022, 07:21:10 PM
No one here needs Cat 7 cable in their home, and if you do we need to report you to DHS.

The Distance on Cat 5e or Cat 6 is about 320 Feet.


Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on July 17, 2022, 08:07:06 PM
I have Cat7 throughout my casa, AMA!
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: passranch on July 17, 2022, 08:36:27 PM
I have Cat7 throughout my casa, AMA!
How do you plan to explain yourself to DHS when you inevitably get reported?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on July 17, 2022, 08:58:51 PM
I have Cat7 throughout my casa, AMA!
How do you plan to explain yourself to DHS when you inevitably get reported?
Talk to my lawyer (spracne) pigs
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Institutional Control on July 17, 2022, 09:03:55 PM
I feel like a real loser with my Cat5 house.


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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 18, 2022, 11:47:28 PM
I’m happy for the sales guy who convinced SD he needed Cat 7. 
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: cfbandyman on July 18, 2022, 11:55:01 PM
That's where I'm at, having cat7 is lighting money on fire, dax is right, 5e or 6 is plenty good enough
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 19, 2022, 12:02:25 AM
I feel like a real loser with my Cat5 house.


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People vastly overestimate how much bandwidth they actually need. 
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on August 24, 2022, 07:50:06 AM
Do any gE network elites have recommendations for beefing up the security for home wireless routers? I went in and renamed my network and added a really long password. Also changed the username and password that came with the router itself. As far as I can tell, it has the WPA2 setting. Is there anything else that I should change?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on August 24, 2022, 08:05:24 AM
Why are you so freaked out about your network security, out of curiousity


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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on August 24, 2022, 08:11:35 AM
Why are you so freaked out about your network security, out of curiousity


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Got an email from our ISP this week implying (if I'm reading it correctly) that there was an outage of their network due to an issue with an individual consumer's device. Have a fair number of our kid's devices on the network. Wanting to avoid possible ID theft, that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: chum1 on August 24, 2022, 08:13:06 AM
My wifi password is "password"
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Spracne on August 24, 2022, 07:49:24 PM
My wifi password is "password"

Mine is 1122334455
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: pissclams on August 25, 2022, 12:36:56 PM
i just bought a nighthawk
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Kat Kid on August 25, 2022, 12:42:19 PM
i just bought a nighthawk
I am a nighthawk man as well!
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: pissclams on August 25, 2022, 01:10:51 PM
i just bought a nighthawk
I am a nighthawk man as well!
well crap yea you are.  prepare to swap nighthawk stories at the mizzou game.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Kat Kid on August 25, 2022, 04:31:59 PM
i just bought a nighthawk
I am a nighthawk man as well!
well crap yea you are.  prepare to swap nighthawk stories at the mizzou game.
I downloaded the app. It updates me when new users log on and scans for threats. Nighthawk never sleeps so I can rest easy.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on August 30, 2022, 05:49:31 PM
Wanted to report that I got my Wi-Fi network up and running again. Purged the old network. Set up new passwords and even a network for appliances and guests. Feels good.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: XocolateThundarr on August 31, 2022, 08:37:10 AM
i just bought a nighthawk
I am a nighthawk man as well!
well crap yea you are.  prepare to swap nighthawk stories at the mizzou game.
I downloaded the app. It updates me when new users log on and scans for threats. Nighthawk never sleeps so I can rest easy.

I have had very good luck with mine.  I upgraded to a newer model last year and it has been great so far. 
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 03, 2023, 11:09:47 AM
n00b streaming question:
I've been having problems with my Firestick buffering while watching sports (esp on ESPN+) but not during movies and TV shows.
I went ahead and ordered a new Firestick as the current one is about 3 - 4 years old.
The firestick is located about 3 feet from my wireless router and fast.com says my download speed is 90+ mbps.
An ethernet connection to the firestick shouldn't be needed to get rid of the buffering, right?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: star seed 7 on January 03, 2023, 11:15:31 AM
No
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: ChiComCat on January 03, 2023, 11:55:28 AM
Really seems like an ESPN app problem.  If you're still on the old stick, I would try deleting and reinstalling the app. 
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Katpappy on January 03, 2023, 11:59:28 AM
Don't forget the tried and tested power down/power up fix. :cool:
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 03, 2023, 12:42:44 PM
Really seems like an ESPN app problem.  If you're still on the old stick, I would try deleting and reinstalling the app.
I've been watching ESPN / ESPN+ content within the Hulu app.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 03, 2023, 01:17:01 PM
I am trying out one of Spectrum's new wireless routers instead of my own, and I am quite pleased thus far. 

On a consumer note, via bundling I'm paying the same for a good TV package, Internet (their base speed is now 500Mbs, and I"m on the next tier at the 500Mbps price) and 3 mobile phones, and an Ipad for what I was once paying just for the mobile phones on a different carrier, and Spectrum Mobile uses Verizon.

I also use the Spectrum app for TV, instead of cable boxes, and their recent app upgrade is not only a very nice upgrade from a usability perspective, I believe their picture quality has improved as well.





Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: ChiComCat on January 03, 2023, 02:34:37 PM
Really seems like an ESPN app problem.  If you're still on the old stick, I would try deleting and reinstalling the app.
I've been watching ESPN / ESPN+ content within the Hulu app.

You could try deleting/reinstalling Hulu.  I started using the ESPN app because the feed is 30 seconds to a minute ahead of Hulu.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 05, 2023, 07:56:01 AM
Got the new 4K max firestick installed and it seems to have fixed the buffering issue so far. I'm also using the USB port on the back of the TV to power the Firestick instead of plugging it into a powerstrip. The firestick should shut off / cool down any time the TV is off now. Optimistic this will give optimal conditions for streaming Cat basketball games this winter.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 26, 2023, 02:36:29 PM
Anyone got a hot link for a router? Getting fiber next week at the new casa and don't really want to lease a router for $12/mo but maybe I should?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 26, 2023, 03:39:26 PM
I would just lease a router, it's gonna be a marginal difference at best if you have a 10k sq/ft house.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 26, 2023, 03:40:24 PM
I would just lease a router, it's gonna be a marginal difference at best if you have a 10k sq/ft house.
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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: star seed 7 on May 26, 2023, 06:08:17 PM
Tbt isn't a tech guy, you definitely need a nighthawk
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: star seed 7 on May 26, 2023, 06:10:55 PM
For real though don't rent that pos, get a two or three point mesh system
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 26, 2023, 06:18:48 PM
Unless your house is huge and/or an RF nightmare, you don't need a mesh system.

A nighthawk or similar will work just fine.

Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: star seed 7 on May 26, 2023, 06:44:47 PM
Yeah yla listen to the boomer lmao
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on May 26, 2023, 07:18:19 PM
I have the google mesh 3x and it whips ass imo


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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 23, 2024, 08:44:06 AM
I have the google mesh 3x and it whips ass imo


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Is the google mesh still the way to go in Feb 2024? I've been using an "extender/repeater" to get signal to upstairs but after adding a video doorbell, it doesn't seem to be keeping up anymore. Cnet has good reviews for the TP-link mesh. Is it infected with Chinese spyware?
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: IPA4Me on February 23, 2024, 08:45:00 AM
Love my Google mesh
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on February 23, 2024, 08:50:53 AM
I have the second gen Google mesh and it has been great. We have 3 stations, one each floor


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Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Institutional Control on February 23, 2024, 09:12:00 AM
I have eero mesh.  zero dead spots in my 2 story house.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Phil Titola on February 23, 2024, 09:34:24 AM
I have a Ubiquiti UDM but honestly I wouldn't recommend it unless you know what you are doing and like to tinker. Also have two APs running with it to get through all the RF noise in my hood.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: steve dave on February 23, 2024, 10:25:09 AM
I have a Ubiquiti UDM but honestly I wouldn't recommend it unless you know what you are doing and like to tinker. Also have two APs running with it to get through all the RF noise in my hood.

that was the main reason I got the google mesh. every review said you just plug it in and never have to do crap with it. which is what I have done.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: star seed 7 on February 23, 2024, 10:59:49 AM
I use a tplink mesh system. Has worked flawlessly.
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: pissclams on February 23, 2024, 01:29:45 PM
i have the google wifi 6 mesh but don’t use it. 
Title: Re: Wireless router recommendos
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 23, 2024, 05:25:52 PM
Grabbed the eero6 at Best Buy today. Was incredibly simple to set up. Seems to have fixed my internet issues.