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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: steve dave on September 16, 2011, 05:28:38 PM
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buying an SUV/Crossover. current options are Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, Wrangler Sahara 4 door, Mercedes GLK, Audi Q5, other. Anyone own any of these or have recommendations for other similar sized/priced options? Anyone work at a dealership that wants to sell me one?
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can you describe your must haves and reasons for wanting said vehicle. TIA
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buying an SUV/Crossover. current options are Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, Wrangler Sahara 4 door, Mercedes GLK, Audi Q5, other. Anyone own any of these or have recommendations for other similar sized/priced options? Anyone work at a dealership that wants to sell me one?
Don't buy a Jeep unless you want it to be in the shop all of the time.
Or I guess if you are :kstategrad:, go ahead, buy the Jeep.
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A typical SD request, this thing will get to about 3 pages and then crap out because SD has to "think it over" or he'll lose interest and no SUV/crossover will ever be bought, that being said
Just
Empty
Every
Pocket
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oh also subaru's they look cool and people who buy them love them, I think
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oh also subaru's they look cool and people who buy them love them, I think
hmmmm
also eff you TopekaCat
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I had a 97 Sahara and loved it. LOVED IT. was the best vehicle I ever owned. Prolly the reason why I have a soft spot for them.
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i love my forester
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can you describe your must haves and reasons for wanting said vehicle. TIA
want something that gets around in the snow well. tired of getting our sedans stuck in deep snow.
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can you describe your must haves and reasons for wanting said vehicle. TIA
want something that gets around in the snow well. tired of getting our sedans stuck in deep snow.
k. thought you might be doing something drastic like planning on having a baby.
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I like my Xterra and my wifes Subaru Tribeca :dunno:
Would prob never spend more than $35k on a car though.
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Had a Grand Cherokee in college.
Loved it.
The new body style is pretty cool too.
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Had a Grand Cherokee in college.
Loved it.
The new body style is pretty cool too.
We went an sat in a new one. amazing interior.
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Since SD will never decide, I am considering an Infiniti G37 coupe AWD, please advise
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I've always thought the acura mdx's looked very sharp, big, but not to huge that it's a pain to drive around or the lexus rx look nice too
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Cars, and car payments, completely suck ass. You will regret any "new car" purchase you make within 3 months, but you'll like suffer from cognitive dissonance and tell everyone (and yourself) that you love the crap out of the car and that it was a wonderful decision...that's the just the statistical reality.
Limestone keeps buying the rough ridin' Chrysler products, even thought they are poop on the reliability ratings. I'd stay away from Jeeps if you intend to keep this car for more than 4-5 years.
You mentioned nothing about fuel economy, but I am going to assume that you care about that.
Given your criteria, my advice is to go get a Nissan Pathfinder...used. Doesn't have the mark up that a Toyota Fourrunner has, but all the reliability. AND, lately they have some really cool options and amenities in the interior.
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We've bought our last 2 cars new. I've never regretted it. But, I make sure to scour goEMAW prior to making a purchase.
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also, now that Fiat owns Chrysler/Jeep/Etc., I thought their reliability may be better. the Grand Cherokee is built on the same platform as the Mercedes M class.
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Cars, and car payments, completely suck ass. You will regret any "new car" purchase you make within 3 months, but you'll like suffer from cognitive dissonance and tell everyone (and yourself) that you love the crap out of the car and that it was a wonderful decision...that's the just the statistical reality.
Limestone keeps buying the rough ridin' Chrysler products, even thought they are poop on the reliability ratings. I'd stay away from Jeeps if you intend to keep this car for more than 4-5 years.
You mentioned nothing about fuel economy, but I am going to assume that you care about that.
Given your criteria, my advice is to go get a Nissan Pathfinder...used. Doesn't have the mark up that a Toyota Fourrunner has, but all the reliability. AND, lately they have some really cool options and amenities in the interior.
Problem is most cars worth buying (< 4 yrs old) aren't significantly cheaper than a new one unless they have a fair amount of miles.
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Cars, and car payments, completely suck ass. You will regret any "new car" purchase you make within 3 months, but you'll like suffer from cognitive dissonance and tell everyone (and yourself) that you love the crap out of the car and that it was a wonderful decision...that's the just the statistical reality.
Limestone keeps buying the rough ridin' Chrysler products, even thought they are poop on the reliability ratings. I'd stay away from Jeeps if you intend to keep this car for more than 4-5 years.
You mentioned nothing about fuel economy, but I am going to assume that you care about that.
Given your criteria, my advice is to go get a Nissan Pathfinder...used. Doesn't have the mark up that a Toyota Fourrunner has, but all the reliability. AND, lately they have some really cool options and amenities in the interior.
Problem is most cars worth buying (< 4 yrs old) aren't significantly cheaper than a new one unless they have a fair amount of miles.
I consider 5-10K to be significant.
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Also, what do you people think a "reasonable" monthly car payment is acceptable? Don't lie...
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See I would rather spend an extra 8K then have 65,000 miles on it. But I don't have house payments to make or anything like that.
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Also, what do you people think a "reasonable" monthly car payment is acceptable? Don't lie...
:horrorsurprise:
THE MANCHURIAN MODERATOR
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Also, what do you people think a "reasonable" monthly car payment is acceptable? Don't lie...
Under $1,000. I would rather have higher payments and a shorter financing period.
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Also, what do you people think a "reasonable" monthly car payment is acceptable? Don't lie...
well, we've confirmed Pete is a car salesman. they always refuse to tell me what they are giving me for my trade and what the exact purchase price is instead trying to tell me what the payment will be. I don't GAF what the payment is. I'm not living paycheck to paycheck you eff. Then you have to ask for a different salesman and crap hits the fan. JFC, I love car buying. :thumbs:
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also, now that Fiat owns Chrysler/Jeep/Etc., I thought their reliability may be better. the Grand Cherokee is built on the same platform as the Mercedes M class.
Mods, please get SD under control and move this post to the help sd buy a car thread
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Jeep will be mocked/laughed at.
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also, now that Fiat owns Chrysler/Jeep/Etc., I thought their reliability may be better. the Grand Cherokee is built on the same platform as the Mercedes M class.
Mods, please get SD under control and move this post to the help sd buy a car thread
good lord :frown:
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Jeep will be mocked/laughed at.
what's your recomendo saul?
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Jeep will be mocked/laughed at.
Trim is going to eff you up.
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Jeep will be mocked/laughed at.
what's your recomendo saul?
'cedes
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The new Explorers are pretty increds, especially for folks that aren't great with 4x4 systems. AWD is the way to go and they have a terrain selection knob deal.
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Get the Sahara. And get a pak head spare tire cover. Buy the guys at the jeep shop a $50 gift card to the Omaha equivalent of the Scotch every Christmas and you'll be fine.
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Also, paying the premium price of the Mercedes is pretty silly here. That Jeep was designed by Mercedes and Jeep still buys many of the parts from Daimler. The only issue I have with the Grand Cherokee is the difficulty in locating a V-6 (Pentastar) in a Limited or Overland trim. There is basically no reason to drive the V-8 unless you tow stuff a lot. And I don't really care for the Sahara trim level on the WUs now that they started putting body colored hard tops on them, they look like little G-Classes now. I like the Rubicon- same interior, 17 'vs 18' wheels, and you can still find the regular black tops.
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If you do end up with a Wrangler Unlimited, absolutely make sure you get a '12 and not an '11. The new 3.6 liter engine is much more powerful and fuel efficient; it's the same Pentastar they use in the GCs and several other vehicles. Also, the '12s have a 5 speed transmission. The 4 speed tranny (!) on the '11s is pretty pathetic.
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or the Audi
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I'm confused as to when Pete became Jeffy. I guess I didn't notice it during the off season.
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subaru or audi
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Mrs. Gooch is in the market for a new car too. Really want her to get on of these so i can drive the crap out of it.
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My Mom had an Audi Q5. Really nice car until these two ass fuckers stole it and wrecked it in a ditch
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Since SD will never decide, I am considering an Infiniti G37 coupe AWD, please advise
Have the G37x AWD 4dr ....... very pleased with the purchase
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cars are stupid. and people that care a lot about them are even stupider. there. i said it.
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cars are stupid. and people that care a lot about them are even stupider. there. i said it.
It needed to be said.
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cars are stupid. and people that care a lot about them are even stupider. there. i said it.
:comeatme:
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cars are stupid. and people that care a lot about them are even stupider. there. i said it.
It needed to be said.
when i realized that this thread was about to reach three pages and it hadn't been brought up yet i just couldn't take it any longer. jesus.
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buying an SUV/Crossover. current options are Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, Wrangler Sahara 4 door, Mercedes GLK, Audi Q5, other. Anyone own any of these or have recommendations for other similar sized/priced options? Anyone work at a dealership that wants to sell me one?
I'd get a Volkswagen Touareg, they look elite (better than the Q5 and less girlish).
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Most folks that want a suv only for the occasional deep snow would be happy with a CRV; RX if they are :kstategrad:
Why not get an awd sedan, better mileage, more vehicle for the money, and more fun to drive
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Honestly, a Highlander is probably the best buy for like 75% of suv seekers. But since SD is looking for something a bit tougher looking, a 4Runner would be a great vehicle. 4Runner/Explorer/GCherokee, in that order. The Wrangler would be the coolest/most fun but also the least practical. Those things are much more refined and quiet these days but they're still not much fun to drive on the highway.
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Find out exactly what you want, then call all the dealers within a couple hour drive of you, tell them exactly what you want and let them know you are talking to all the others. ASk them what their lowest price is, then lie like [redacted] about the last guy you just talked to and what what he offered.
Works like a charm on new cars. Does not work at all on used.
Works especially well with cars that have a lot of local dealerships, like chevy, ford, nissan, etc.
Had a guy at work do this with a mass fax. Never even spoke to a guy until he saw the offer he wanted then just went and signed the papers and picked the crap up.
Some of them get pretty pissed, but most of them squirm pretty bad. It's entertaining(no offense to pete).
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You've known since dropping me off at City Park at the end of MOAP1 that you were getting the Wrangler.
/thread
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buying an SUV/Crossover. current options are Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, Wrangler Sahara 4 door, Mercedes GLK, Audi Q5, other. Anyone own any of these or have recommendations for other similar sized/priced options? Anyone work at a dealership that wants to sell me one?
I'd get a Volkswagen Touareg, they look elite (better than the Q5 and less girlish).
This.
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approx 100% of guys that study animals drive tacomas or 4runners.
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approx 100% of guys that study animals drive tacomas or 4runners.
intriguing return. i can't back that up but it sounds about right, actually.
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Sys' stats are a bit off. Lots of dudes that study animals drive land rovers.
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Mrs. Gooch is in the market for a new car too. Really want her to get on of these so i can drive the crap out of it.
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really soured on Mini lately. Too many issues with plastic parts being used as retaining wear parts in the valve/timing systems.
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SD if you are thinking about a snow hauler you might but a AWD escape on the list too.
Where are you located and how long of a commute do you have? Will the car be a DD or winter beater?
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SD if you are thinking about a snow hauler you might but a AWD escape on the list too.
Where are you located and how long of a commute do you have? Will the car be a DD or winter beater?
Omaha/about 20 minutes to work/daily driver
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Flush the jeeps
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will be trading in a 2006 Nissan Altima 3.5SE with 60k miles and a huge door ding on the driver's side. it drives nice and gets stuck in snow roughly twice a year. anyone want to buy this blizzard coffin?
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it drives nice and gets stuck in snow roughly twice a year.
seriously? in omaha? :lol:
how much?
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it drives nice and gets stuck in snow roughly twice a year.
seriously? in omaha? :lol:
how much?
and right on schedule the yooper chimes in with winter weather smack :lol:
$11k
This is the color
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it drives nice and gets stuck in snow roughly twice a year.
seriously? in omaha? :lol:
how much?
and right on schedule the yooper chimes in with winter weather smack :lol:
$11k
This is the color
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I'll donate $10k to BBBS for it.
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is the jeep just a nostalgic thing and 4wd or are you planning on modding it for some off road use?
I don't know about newest jeeps post buy out but older jeeps had a rep for rust.
I would stay away from VW/Audi just for the random electrical issues that seem to always pop up with them.
BMW is souless mommy transporters, same with MB ML class
New Dodge Durangos have caught on fire, so built in heater for winter is a plus
I would think about a new Explorer. The new body style is hot. Maybe a Flex or edge. unfortunately you can't get the ecoboost in 4wd, only fwd on the edge. but for a good bit of coin you can get a flex with ecoboost engine and awd. But at the price required I would rather have an explorer I think.
Subarus are nice cars but they are losing their souls. Outbacks should not be small SUVs I would still kill and early 2000s with a quickness in LLB edition. Foresters are huge pigs now. I've thought about a WRX hatch for a next car. manual/turbo/hatch for space would be great. AWD for them is proven, especially if you aren't modding.
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yeah, I can't even mod this message board let alone a car. also, rust isn't going to be a concern as I'll sell it within 6 or 7 years. the wrangler would probably just be for nostalgia I guess.
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I'll donate $10k to BBBS for it.
On behalf of sd, sold.
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Get either one of the Jeep's. I have a Grand Cherokee Limited. I love it. I wish I could get the one with the new body style.
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Have 2 friends with the Jeeps. They hate them. It's a great ride when not in the shop. I would recommend a Forester. There's nothing better in the snow. It's also one of the better driving vehicles.
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I agree with Rick(for once)(dumbass not that it needed to be said)
but you guys should focus more on waxing your wifes ass and less on your automobile
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yeah, I can't even mod this message board let alone a car. also, rust isn't going to be a concern as I'll sell it within 6 or 7 years. the wrangler would probably just be for nostalgia I guess.
Considered leasing?
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yes saul is on to something here, lease a yukon denali, hire a driver. With the economy so soft I'm sure a driver can be had for very cheap.
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steve I can offer you 100k ahearn points and that is my final offer
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Don't get the explorer.Wife has a limited. Rides v rough, is v loud inside when driving, and if you have long legs....forgetaboutit.
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Casey- what year is your wife's car? Cause if it's prior to '11, it's a completely different vehicle from the ground up.
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Casey- what year is your wife's car? Cause if it's prior to '11, it's a completely different vehicle from the ground up.
Yeah, it's 5 or 6 yrs old.
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Yeah, that edition of the Explorer was pretty lackluster, which is a large reason why they spent so much time/money designing the new model. The new ones certainly appear to be very nice vehicles, in pretty much every facet. Time will tell if the reliability has improved as much as Ford says it has.
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Wife drives an 05explorer. I'm 6'2'' no leg room issues.
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My dad used to have like an '04 or '05 Explorer. Dude is 6'7" and I never heard him complain about leg room.
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My dad used to have like an '04 or '05 Explorer. Dude is 6'7" and I never heard him complain about leg room.
6'-5" and my head touches the ceiling slightly(yes we have a sunroof) and my legs are v close to the dash. V unconfy
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welp, I now own this http://www.genesteffychryslerdodgejeep.com/new/Jeep/2012-Jeep-Grand+Cherokee-085ffa0d0a0d048d00c9ebbbbe38d750.htm
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huge selling point? you can switch the thing to "snow". deal with that summercats.
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You can also raise/lower it like 4 inches. Pretty sweet vehicles.
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internet price says 42,000, id love to have seen the salesmens face when he sold it for 32,500 and three years worth of free scheduled maintenance :kstategrad:
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welp, I now own this http://www.genesteffychryslerdodgejeep.com/new/Jeep/2012-Jeep-Grand+Cherokee-085ffa0d0a0d048d00c9ebbbbe38d750.htm
Lots of room for all your kids :nerd: (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg600.imageshack.us%2Fimg600%2F2658%2Fhappygrouphug.gif&hash=0595005daa9547a4af21f4c5d041a526013c67d8)
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Trade your old car in or selling it? How much you get for it if trade in?
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Trade your old car in or selling it? How much you get for it if trade in?
got $10k for the blizzard coffin
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internet price says 42,000, i'd love to have seen the salesman's face when he sold it for 3.2 million miles.
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welp, I now own this http://www.genesteffychryslerdodgejeep.com/new/Jeep/2012-Jeep-Grand+Cherokee-085ffa0d0a0d048d00c9ebbbbe38d750.htm
:lol:
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Isn't an Altima front wheel drive? It should be decent in the snow. sd not a good driver?
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FWD certainly helps but SD said he kept getting stuck in snow so I'd assume it's alot of snow and the car is too low for it.
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Well hopefully this wont get stuck as often when SD goes high speed drifto in the snow
I'll reserve judgement until I see what Fiat has done to Dodge/JP/CHR reliability
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Nissan Murano :thumbs:
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welp, I now own this http://www.genesteffychryslerdodgejeep.com/new/Jeep/2012-Jeep-Grand+Cherokee-085ffa0d0a0d048d00c9ebbbbe38d750.htm
jeep? :flush:
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I have a grand cherokee right now. I know nothing about cars so here are the things I notice about my car:
1. It gets pretty dirty
2. Wind shield wipers consistently do a bad job. I've got them replaced a few times, but invariably, they are bad. The front ones just mush around the water and don't clear it completely off. The back ones don't even touch the back windshield. Weird.
3. Tires go flat all the time.
4. Sunroof :love:
5. Folding down the seats allows me to put an moped into my car. Crazy big interior space with seats folded down.
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I have a grand cherokee right now. I know nothing about cars so here are the things I notice about my car:
1. It gets pretty dirty
2. Wind shield wipers consistently do a bad job. I've got them replaced a few times, but invariably, they are bad. The front ones just mush around the water and don't clear it completely off. The back ones don't even touch the back windshield. Weird.
3. Tires go flat all the time.
4. Sunroof :love:
5. Folding down the seats allows me to put an moped into my car. Crazy big interior space with seats folded down.
Great review.
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I have a grand cherokee right now. I know nothing about cars so here are the things I notice about my car:
1. It gets pretty dirty
2. Wind shield wipers consistently do a bad job. I've got them replaced a few times, but invariably, they are bad. The front ones just mush around the water and don't clear it completely off. The back ones don't even touch the back windshield. Weird.
3. Tires go flat all the time.
4. Sunroof :love:
5. Folding down the seats allows me to put an moped into my car. Crazy big interior space with seats folded down.
I will keep an eye out for the wipers and tires. good to hear about the moped space.
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Isn't an Altima front wheel drive? It should be decent in the snow. sd not a good driver?
I drove an altima through 2 of what the natives called "the worst" winters in recent memory, times stuck = 0, sd = not a good driver
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I have a grand cherokee right now. I know nothing about cars so here are the things I notice about my car:
1. It gets pretty dirty
2. Wind shield wipers consistently do a bad job. I've got them replaced a few times, but invariably, they are bad. The front ones just mush around the water and don't clear it completely off. The back ones don't even touch the back windshield. Weird.
3. Tires go flat all the time.
4. Sunroof :love:
5. Folding down the seats allows me to put an moped into my car. Crazy big interior space with seats folded down.
I also have a grand cherokee and know nothing about cars, but wouldn't the flat tires be due to buying shitty tires? Also :love: the sunroof.
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Maybe the tires are actually really good tires but he keeps coming across really good nails?
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Fun fact: The leather in SD's (and every new Grand Cherokee) came frome a Dodge City processed steer.
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SD, If you go to Stan Olsen punch a guy named Vladimir for me.
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wtf^ lol
And you couldn't of got the points from briggs because they aren't licensed to sell new jeeps there anymore.
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wtf^ lol
And you couldn't of got the points from briggs because they aren't licensed to sell new jeeps there anymore.
:confused:
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In the market for a new (used) SUV, crossover. Jeeps have been great, but in my experience with two different grand cherokees, something is broken all of the time.
Want one of the cool looking Nissan SUV's.
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In the market for a new (used) SUV, crossover. Jeeps have been great, but in my experience with two different grand cherokees, something is broken all of the time.
Want one of the cool looking Nissan SUV's.
I would recommend going with a Nissan SUV then
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In the market for a new (used) SUV, crossover. Jeeps have been great, but in my experience with two different grand cherokees, something is broken all of the time.
Want one of the cool looking Nissan SUV's.
I would recommend going with a Nissan SUV then
That's exactly what I was leaning towards.
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Anyone here ever worked/currently work at a car dealer that can share us the "tips and tricks" that work, and don't work?
TIA
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Traded in this
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For this
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Loving the increased MPG although miss being able to drive through anything
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Hey I have a Nissan SUV. :D
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I saw a BMW X6 on the way to work today, woof
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Thinking about an '08 Cadillac CTS (4wd).
Looks very elite.
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unless you live on a mountain or something, suv's are for people who want attention.
"Hey, look at me, I have an SUV" :dubious:
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get a minivan
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In the market for a new (used) SUV, crossover. Jeeps have been great, but in my experience with two different grand cherokees, something is broken all of the time.
Want one of the cool looking Nissan SUV's.
My 08 Pathfinder is starting to a have few issues (hatch struts wearing out, squeaks and rattles, etc) that my previous Acuras and Toyotas did not but I still enjoy it. It is a good compromise of a bigger truck feel with a smaller size that fits in garage, easier to pak, etc. Have over 80,000 on it and have not had any big issues.
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unless you live on a mountain or something, suv's are for people who want attention.
"Hey, look at me, I have an SUV" :dubious:
yeah, nothing says LOOK AT ME, I'M MR. BIGSHOT! like driving an SUV :flush:
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get a minivan
Minivans are fun to drive. I never really understood the negative stigma.
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get a minivan
Minivans are fun to drive. I never really understood the negative stigma.
pro tip - it's the kids
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So, i've never driven a standard in my life, but they are cheaper. Seems like they would be more "fun" to drive, too. Do you think the dealer would mind me learning on a test drive, or would they frown upon that?
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So, i've never driven a standard in my life, but they are cheaper. Seems like they would be more "fun" to drive, too. Do you think the dealer would mind me learning on a test drive, or would they frown upon that?
don't get a standard. they are cheaper because they suck.
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I prefer driving a stick. I had to stop buying them because my wife is incapable of learning how to drive one.
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So, i've never driven a standard in my life, but they are cheaper. Seems like they would be more "fun" to drive, too. Do you think the dealer would mind me learning on a test drive, or would they frown upon that?
Surely someone you know has one. Maybe your wife or friend could test drive? They are way more fun to drive and get better mileage, too. Go for it!
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My first two cars were standards. Liked them at the time. Will never go back. I want to be as disassociated from the driving experience as possible.
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Are "standards" what greasemonkeys (not racist) call stick shifts?
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Are "standards" what greasemonkeys (not racist) call stick shifts?
no, that's something different.
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Hm.
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get a minivan
Minivans are fun to drive. I never really understood the negative stigma.
pro tip - it's the kids
Yeah, I don't have kids, but I always laugh when people with 4 kids go out and buy and excursion so they don't have to drive a *gasp* minivan.
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My first two cars were standards. Liked them at the time. Will never go back. I want to be as disassociated from the driving experience as possible.
I'm this way too. It didn't really bother me ever at the time but as soon as I got an auto I was like GMAFB clutch and shifter.
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Depends on what the car is as to whether or not to get a standard or automatic.
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I prefer driving a stick. I had to stop buying them because my wife is incapable of learning how to drive one.
This sounds like an exact reason to want to drive a stick.
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I loved my manual (stick) honda CRX that I drove in college. Fun little car to drive. But hated driving the farm truck with the manual transmission.
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Manual's are not that hard to learn how to drive. My wife bought a manual without knowing how to drive it, and I taught her within a couple weeks. I like them better, but it isn't some sort of point of pride or gold star I give myself. Also, consideing how I drive, I doubt I save on gas milage which is what a car salesman might use in his talking points.
The only substantive advantage is if the transmission goes on the auto it will probably more expensive to fix than on a standard.
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I used to like manual because it limited the ability of other people to drive my car.
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when I had a stick, I read something about "hyper-mileage" dudes who can get like 80 mpg from an off-the-shelf Civic or something. After reading all the crap they did, I would shut off the engine and coast down hills all the time, then use the transmission to start the engine back up at the bottom of the hill. Lots of fun.
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My folks rented a Dodge/Chrysler minivan a couple months ago. My dad and I were both surprised with how much frickin' room they have and how many nice options they have.
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Minivans are great if you like disgusting cesspools of dried juice on the armrests and half-full pop cans in the cupholders and year-old happy meal cheesburgers on the floor. Because that's what every backseat of every minivan I've ever been in looks like.
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when I had a stick, I read something about "hyper-mileage" dudes who can get like 80 mpg from an off-the-shelf Civic or something. After reading all the crap they did, I would shut off the engine and coast down hills all the time, then use the transmission to start the engine back up at the bottom of the hill. Lots of fun.
tom & ray would PI the holy hell out of you if you called in :horrorsurprise:
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Was that a Click and Clack reference?!
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when I had a stick, I read something about "hyper-mileage" dudes who can get like 80 mpg from an off-the-shelf Civic or something. After reading all the crap they did, I would shut off the engine and coast down hills all the time, then use the transmission to start the engine back up at the bottom of the hill. Lots of fun.
tom & ray would PI the holy hell out of you if you called in :horrorsurprise:
I think they would enjoy it a lot. But why would I call in? It worked great.
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I went with the Xsterra.
It looked cool.
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I went with the Xsterra.
It looked cool.
guy I work with has one. seems to like it
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Hey I have an Xterra :surprised:
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I went with the Xsterra.
It looked cool.
congrats.
glad you bought what you wanted, cars are too expensive to settle for anything less
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when I had a stick, I read something about "hyper-mileage" dudes who can get like 80 mpg from an off-the-shelf Civic or something. After reading all the crap they did, I would shut off the engine and coast down hills all the time, then use the transmission to start the engine back up at the bottom of the hill. Lots of fun.
tom & ray would PI the holy hell out of you if you called in :horrorsurprise:
I think they would enjoy it a lot. But why would I call in? It worked great.
pro tip: they PI the holy hell out of people whenever they say they do that on the air. but yeah, sounds like fun :thumbs:
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Our Pathfinder is getting old and uncomfortable for long rides. Need AWD/4WD. Automatic. Big enough for car seat and storage in back. 18-25K. Thoughts on new vs slightly used vs certified preowned? Thoughts on what model to get? Thinking certified preowned Forester or Rav4. Not sure if CPO is worth it or not, though.
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See if you can find a 2011 or newer Jeep Grand Cherokee for that. Love my 2012 and they made all the improvements the 2011 model year.
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Rav4
chick car
Forester
chick who likes other chicks car
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My wife will be driving it, so chick car is ok.
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what's your wife think about the audi q5? seems chicky. i have a friend (female) who loves hers
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I like the Chevy Traverse (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.cargurus.com%2Fimages%2Fsite%2F2011%2F06%2F08%2F13%2F08%2F2012_chevrolet_traverse-pic-3976571537637663836.png&hash=5da2b56a4506995c0021989f5340b3b6f16f0984)
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Rav4
chick car
Forester
chick who likes other chicks car
RACIST!!! :horrorsurprise:
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I like the Chevy Traverse (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.cargurus.com%2Fimages%2Fsite%2F2011%2F06%2F08%2F13%2F08%2F2012_chevrolet_traverse-pic-3976571537637663836.png&hash=5da2b56a4506995c0021989f5340b3b6f16f0984)
RACIST...nope, just bad taste in automobiles. :D
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Audi is nice, but pricey. I'm going with a no to the Chevy.
Any thoughts on new/used/CPO?
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tacoma
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http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/613575152/overview/
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tacoma
This is literally the opposite of a mocat post.
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tacoma
This is literally the opposite of a mocat post.
Oh wow :lol:
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spracne has been sitting on that one for a while
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oh my heavens sakes
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This thread has be excited. I'm going to start working on getting a new vehicle. I love #teamprelude and won't sell her. But I'd like to have a nice sedan.
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oh my heavens sakes
They can say what they want mo. :cheers:
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I think sd's Jeep is going to be maintenance city in a couple of years. (if he keeps cars that long)
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tacoma
This is literally the opposite of a mocat post.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-r4oIfJNrgAo%2FUVV_KMmbj9I%2FAAAAAAAABLk%2FiWOKtJOGvYI%2Fs1600%2Fnot%2Bworthy.gif&hash=b0958c8368717a6b0b01af17fc6e30dcf88619f4)
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I like the Chevy Traverse (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.cargurus.com%2Fimages%2Fsite%2F2011%2F06%2F08%2F13%2F08%2F2012_chevrolet_traverse-pic-3976571537637663836.png&hash=5da2b56a4506995c0021989f5340b3b6f16f0984)
This is a company car i drive sometime. Confirmed crap box.
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I think sd's Jeep is going to be maintenance city in a couple of years. (if he keeps cars that long)
Pretty sure if the check engine light comes on he's just going to call his wife to pick him up. Light it on fire and have her drive him to the dealership to buy the next one.
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spracne has been sitting on that one for a while
Feels good...
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F08%2F15%2Famu9ype5.jpg&hash=59395cf3f8f73222f71d2ec5673fa47c26755a84)
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omg :lol:
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:lol:
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Sadly, I didn't it til now. :(
Great job Spracne!
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Just got the Jeep all paid of... I like road trips and the soft top/big tires don't make for the most comfortable roadie. Whats some good roadtrip cars I should be looking at?
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Sad that a squawk is the best poster on our blog.
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Sad that a squawk is the best poster on our blog.
True.
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Way to make this thread shine, spracne.
Also, thoughts on a used VW Tiguan? Wife is interested in a Nissan Rogue. I'm not a fan. Mazda CX series looks interesting, tho.
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there's no way Spracne is a squawk. probably just a KSU fan having some fun with everybody.
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spracne has been sitting on that one for a while
Feels good...
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F08%2F15%2Famu9ype5.jpg&hash=59395cf3f8f73222f71d2ec5673fa47c26755a84)
lol good grief, back to backs. gotta feel good.
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spracne has been sitting on that one for a while
Feels good...
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F08%2F15%2Famu9ype5.jpg&hash=59395cf3f8f73222f71d2ec5673fa47c26755a84)
OMG :lol:
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Jesus. Congrats spracne
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tacoma
This is literally the opposite of a mocat post.
I'm so rough ridin' stupid. This took me a bit.
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glad I ventured in here. My word.
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spracne has been sitting on that one for a while
Feels good...
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F08%2F15%2Famu9ype5.jpg&hash=59395cf3f8f73222f71d2ec5673fa47c26755a84)
ok, i have to admit, this is pretty amazing.
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Bought a 2015 kia sorento. Wife liked it. I liked the price and the warranty. Rides very nice. Lots of room and features.
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New car purchases are great. Dumbass Dave Ramsey types will tell you otherwise but they churn through shitwagons that never provide any utility for the sake of pinching penny's. You'll be happy with the purchase if it checks the boxes for your family.
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spracne has been sitting on that one for a while
Feels good...
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F08%2F15%2Famu9ype5.jpg&hash=59395cf3f8f73222f71d2ec5673fa47c26755a84)
Well, this is just fantastic.
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Used cars just dont have the value, but they certainly have the cost. I'd rather have a nice car and pay a little more with a warranty than have the shitwagon that needs repairs. Plus we got a killer deal. Thanks for the advice sd.
New car purchases are great. Dumbass Dave Ramsey types will tell you otherwise but they churn through shitwagons that never provide any utility for the sake of pinching penny's. You'll be happy with the purchase if it checks the boxes for your family.
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New car purchases are great. Dumbass Dave Ramsey types will tell you otherwise but they churn through shitwagons that never provide any utility for the sake of pinching penny's. You'll be happy with the purchase if it checks the boxes for your family.
For me it depends on the class of car. When stepping into a luxury line, I'll take a CPO. The next IPA4Me ride will be in this range...
http://www.tafelmotors.com/used/2011/mercedes/e350/2011-mercedes-e350-black-louisville-for-sale-wddhf8hb1ba464620
I could get a new Impala (had one for nine years) or Taurus in that range with a bumper to bumper warranty. I'd rather spend the same and have that sweet Benz or 5-series BMW with a few miles on it.
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spracne has been sitting on that one for a while
Feels good...
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F08%2F15%2Famu9ype5.jpg&hash=59395cf3f8f73222f71d2ec5673fa47c26755a84)
ok, i have to admit, this is pretty amazing.
Spracne, congratulations on a post that is so amazing that you were able to get KC to break character.
KC- do better.
Gonna win 'em all!
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spracne has been sitting on that one for a while
Feels good...
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F08%2F15%2Famu9ype5.jpg&hash=59395cf3f8f73222f71d2ec5673fa47c26755a84)
ok, i have to admit, this is pretty amazing.
Spracne, congratulations on a post that is so amazing that you were able to get KC to break character.
KC- do better.
Gonna win 'em all!
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Wrt op, get the 2014Odyssey. It has a built in vacuum!
Gonna win 'em all!
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Used cars just dont have the value, but they certainly have the cost. I'd rather have a nice car and pay a little more with a warranty than have the shitwagon that needs repairs. Plus we got a killer deal. Thanks for the advice sd.
New car purchases are great. Dumbass Dave Ramsey types will tell you otherwise but they churn through shitwagons that never provide any utility for the sake of pinching penny's. You'll be happy with the purchase if it checks the boxes for your family.
I bought my current car in 2006 for $3300, has needed almost zero repairs.
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cargurus.com is a pretty great site imo if you all haven't used it
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Used cars just dont have the value, but they certainly have the cost. I'd rather have a nice car and pay a little more with a warranty than have the shitwagon that needs repairs. Plus we got a killer deal. Thanks for the advice sd.
New car purchases are great. Dumbass Dave Ramsey types will tell you otherwise but they churn through shitwagons that never provide any utility for the sake of pinching penny's. You'll be happy with the purchase if it checks the boxes for your family.
Define "value"
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Lots of dumbass Dave Ramsey types being outed.
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This thread got me looking and I realized I can afford a BMW. I'm currently looking into a 330xi. 6 speed manual. Anyone have experience with them?
By looking into, I mean buying one in the next 6 months.
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This thread got me looking and I realized I can afford a BMW. I'm currently looking into a 330xi. 6 speed manual. Anyone have experience with them?
By looking into, I mean buying one in the next 6 months.
do you live in manhattan?
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This thread got me looking and I realized I can afford a BMW. I'm currently looking into a 330xi. 6 speed manual. Anyone have experience with them?
By looking into, I mean buying one in the next 6 months.
do you live in manhattan?
Yes. I currently drive a 98 prelude, 133k miles. No intent to sell, but I'd like to have a nice sedan as well.
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This thread got me looking and I realized I can afford a BMW. I'm currently looking into a 330xi. 6 speed manual. Anyone have experience with them?
By looking into, I mean buying one in the next 6 months.
do you live in manhattan?
Yes. I currently drive a 98 prelude, 133k miles. No intent to sell, but I'd like to have a nice sedan as well.
I think it will be a major pain in the ass. Its not like driving a prelude a lot of places won't even change the oil on a bmw or mercedes.. repairs are more costly and even the simplest things like windshield blades need to be specially ordered.
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This thread got me looking and I realized I can afford a BMW. I'm currently looking into a 330xi. 6 speed manual. Anyone have experience with them?
By looking into, I mean buying one in the next 6 months.
do you live in manhattan?
Yes. I currently drive a 98 prelude, 133k miles. No intent to sell, but I'd like to have a nice sedan as well.
I think it will be a major pain in the ass. Its not like driving a prelude a lot of places won't even change the oil on a bmw or mercedes.. repairs are more costly and even the simplest things like windshield blades need to be specially ordered.
I get that and am open to changing my own oil. I'm also open to making repairs. I replaced the head gasket in my prelude. I've just wanted a M3 for as long as I can remember. Also wanted a prelude for a while and I've owned one for 6 years. I know I can't afford an M3 at this point in my life but am willing to wait for that. I've been debating between a BMW sedan and an S2000 and the former is more achievable currently.
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Lots of dumbass Dave Ramsey types being outed.
People that haggle and pay cash for major purchases are just the worst.
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Lots of dumbass Dave Ramsey types being outed.
People that haggle and pay cash for major purchases are just the worst.
Yeah it sucks not having to pay interest on a multi-thousand dollar purchase.
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Lots of dumbass Dave Ramsey types being outed.
People that haggle and pay cash for major purchases are just the worst.
Yeah it sucks not having to pay interest on a multi-thousand dollar purchase.
I hate saving money. Banks need that interest to survive. ::)
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Used cars just dont have the value, but they certainly have the cost. I'd rather have a nice car and pay a little more with a warranty than have the shitwagon that needs repairs. Plus we got a killer deal. Thanks for the advice sd.
New car purchases are great. Dumbass Dave Ramsey types will tell you otherwise but they churn through shitwagons that never provide any utility for the sake of pinching penny's. You'll be happy with the purchase if it checks the boxes for your family.
I bought my current car in 2006 for $3300, has needed almost zero repairs.
What kind of car?
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This thread got me looking and I realized I can afford a BMW. I'm currently looking into a 330xi. 6 speed manual. Anyone have experience with them?
By looking into, I mean buying one in the next 6 months.
do you live in manhattan?
Yes. I currently drive a 98 prelude, 133k miles. No intent to sell, but I'd like to have a nice sedan as well.
I think it will be a major pain in the ass. Its not like driving a prelude a lot of places won't even change the oil on a bmw or mercedes.. repairs are more costly and even the simplest things like windshield blades need to be specially ordered.
I get that and am open to changing my own oil. I'm also open to making repairs. I replaced the head gasket in my prelude. I've just wanted a M3 for as long as I can remember. Also wanted a prelude for a while and I've owned one for 6 years. I know I can't afford an M3 at this point in my life but am willing to wait for that. I've been debating between a BMW sedan and an S2000 and the former is more achievable currently.
i own an m3, i love it. it's about as much fun to drive as any car on the road. y-l-a already said, you're not done spending when you buy the car. they're expensive to own. buy cpo if possible.
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This is my first new car. We'll see how it goes. The market for used awd/4x4 in Colorado is insane. You don't save much getting a lightly used car. This go around, we spent as much getting a new car as we were planning on a used. Wouldn't have bought new if that wasn't the case. 10 year bumper to bumper warranty and free oil changes for not much more. Before i found this deal, i was going to go with cpo. It seems like the best of both worlds if you don't get a dealer gouging you for it.
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This is my first new car. We'll see how it goes. The market for used awd/4x4 in Colorado is insane. You don't save much getting a lightly used car. This go around, we spent as much getting a new car as we were planning on a used. Wouldn't have bought new if that wasn't the case. 10 year bumper to bumper warranty and free oil changes for not much more. Before i found this deal, i was going to go with cpo. It seems like the best of both worlds if you don't get a dealer gouging you for it.
You in Denver? Did you go thru a dealership or a broker?
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Colorado Springs. Dealer. It supposedly had hail damage on the roof. Not even on the hood.
This is my first new car. We'll see how it goes. The market for used awd/4x4 in Colorado is insane. You don't save much getting a lightly used car. This go around, we spent as much getting a new car as we were planning on a used. Wouldn't have bought new if that wasn't the case. 10 year bumper to bumper warranty and free oil changes for not much more. Before i found this deal, i was going to go with cpo. It seems like the best of both worlds if you don't get a dealer gouging you for it.
You in Denver? Did you go thru a dealership or a broker?
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Colorado Springs. Dealer. It supposedly had hail damage on the roof. Not even on the hood.
This is my first new car. We'll see how it goes. The market for used awd/4x4 in Colorado is insane. You don't save much getting a lightly used car. This go around, we spent as much getting a new car as we were planning on a used. Wouldn't have bought new if that wasn't the case. 10 year bumper to bumper warranty and free oil changes for not much more. Before i found this deal, i was going to go with cpo. It seems like the best of both worlds if you don't get a dealer gouging you for it.
You in Denver? Did you go thru a dealership or a broker?
Got ya. Well next time your looking for you or someone else, I've found brokers to be better if your buying new/semi-new or leasing.
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Colorado Springs. Dealer. It supposedly had hail damage on the roof. Not even on the hood.
This is my first new car. We'll see how it goes. The market for used awd/4x4 in Colorado is insane. You don't save much getting a lightly used car. This go around, we spent as much getting a new car as we were planning on a used. Wouldn't have bought new if that wasn't the case. 10 year bumper to bumper warranty and free oil changes for not much more. Before i found this deal, i was going to go with cpo. It seems like the best of both worlds if you don't get a dealer gouging you for it.
You in Denver? Did you go thru a dealership or a broker?
Got ya. Well next time your looking for you or someone else, I've found brokers to be better if your buying new/semi-new or leasing.
Thanks. I'll keep that in mind.
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Lots of dumbass Dave Ramsey types being outed.
People that haggle and pay cash for major purchases are just the worst.
Yeah it sucks not having to pay interest on a multi-thousand dollar purchase.
all of these posts are annoying.
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Used cars just dont have the value, but they certainly have the cost. I'd rather have a nice car and pay a little more with a warranty than have the shitwagon that needs repairs. Plus we got a killer deal. Thanks for the advice sd.
New car purchases are great. Dumbass Dave Ramsey types will tell you otherwise but they churn through shitwagons that never provide any utility for the sake of pinching penny's. You'll be happy with the purchase if it checks the boxes for your family.
Define "value"
I think some people really like buying new, because of the comfort and security of it. That's a real "value" to them. I get it. My folks are like that. The reliability is worth a lot of money to them. My Dad just rough ridin' hates having car issues. Who doesn't!?!
I am getting ready to get a different car, and I'll get a used one. No question about it. I have over 200,000 miles on an Avalon. I think I'll get a used Acura TL, and drive it for 6 or 7 years or so, and expect to have few to zero significant issues...while still spending $15K or so less than a brand new one. I'll get a loaded up one, with all the fancy stuff, so I might even save more than that.
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I'm going to lease my next car. Suggestos?
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Used cars just dont have the value, but they certainly have the cost. I'd rather have a nice car and pay a little more with a warranty than have the shitwagon that needs repairs. Plus we got a killer deal. Thanks for the advice sd.
New car purchases are great. Dumbass Dave Ramsey types will tell you otherwise but they churn through shitwagons that never provide any utility for the sake of pinching penny's. You'll be happy with the purchase if it checks the boxes for your family.
I bought my current car in 2006 for $3300, has needed almost zero repairs.
What kind of car?
'02 Chevy Malibu. Bought it from WSU.
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I'm going to lease my next car. Suggestos?
You should lease it as your "company car" in your own LLC and claim it as a biz expense or something. Lots of independent technology consultants I know do that.
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I'm going to lease my next car. Suggestos?
give us some parameters
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I'm going to lease my next car. Suggestos?
give us some parameters
If you are leasing, I'd go with a Buick. Those things are really nice these days, with LOADS of options, BUT I would personally have concerns about owning one for the long haul. Leasing seems perfect for a domestic luxury car.
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I'm going to lease my next car. Suggestos?
Like I said earlier.. use a broker (and preferably one you can trust, get referred to, or can get to know before deciding whether to use them). You can get "deals" on leases at all dealerships but they tinker with the numbers to make it look favorable. There's lots of different things and numbers they can change to make it work "with your budget". Obviously, buyout value at the end is important. 36 month is typical but just kind of matters on what your trying to get and what your monthly budget is. Perks are always nice (free maintenance, etc.)
If you use a broker, they will find a great deal for you and then you can use them again to buy it back about a year before your lease is over to get bang for your buck to release or put down to buy and not have to worry about "wear and tear" or mileage. If you get a car that retains value well and your residual value at the end is ideal, you can get cash in hand back at the end or use it on something else.
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a buick? come on man
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I'm going to lease my next car. Suggestos?
Like I said earlier.. use a broker (and preferably one you can trust, get referred to, or can get to know before deciding whether to use them). You can get "deals" on leases at all dealerships but they tinker with the numbers to make it look favorable. There's lots of different things and numbers they can change to make it work "with your budget". Obviously, buyout value at the end is important. 36 month is typical but just kind of matters on what your trying to get and what your monthly budget is. Perks are always nice (free maintenance, etc.)
If you use a broker, they will find a great deal for you and then you can use them again to buy it back about a year before your lease is over to get bang for your buck to release or put down to buy and not have to worry about "wear and tear" or mileage. If you get a car that retains value well and your residual value at the end is ideal, you can get cash in hand back at the end or use it on something else.
What the hell is a broker, and where do I find one?
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a buick? come on man
They've come a long way. Quite nice, actually.
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I'm going to lease my next car. Suggestos?
give us some parameters
Looking at Camry/Altima/Accord types of vehicles, mid range, $180-$280 price range a mo.
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I think this looks nice
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buick.com%2Fcontent%2Fdam%2FBuick%2Fnorth_america%2Fusa%2Fnscwebsite%2Fen%2Fhome%2Fmodels%2Fview_all_vehicles%2Fcurrent_vehicles%2F2014_enclave%2Fenclave_mov%2F01_images%2Finterior%2F2014-buick-enclave-model-overview-interior-938x528-14BUEN00003-V3.jpg&hash=59ed434fdc428861066b31479bb15e3c0f1f0702)
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wood grain accents :sdeek:
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I'm going to lease my next car. Suggestos?
Like I said earlier.. use a broker (and preferably one you can trust, get referred to, or can get to know before deciding whether to use them). You can get "deals" on leases at all dealerships but they tinker with the numbers to make it look favorable. There's lots of different things and numbers they can change to make it work "with your budget". Obviously, buyout value at the end is important. 36 month is typical but just kind of matters on what your trying to get and what your monthly budget is. Perks are always nice (free maintenance, etc.)
If you use a broker, they will find a great deal for you and then you can use them again to buy it back about a year before your lease is over to get bang for your buck to release or put down to buy and not have to worry about "wear and tear" or mileage. If you get a car that retains value well and your residual value at the end is ideal, you can get cash in hand back at the end or use it on something else.
What the hell is a broker, and where do I find one?
It's a car dealer who is not associated with a certain dealership. They work with all the car companies corporate offices. They have no ties to certain cars/quotas/bonuses, etc. The dealership and car salesman take a cut of every deal made. When you use a broker, you cut out the dealership cut so it's a better deal and they can put you into any car you want.
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I'm going to lease my next car. Suggestos?
Like I said earlier.. use a broker (and preferably one you can trust, get referred to, or can get to know before deciding whether to use them). You can get "deals" on leases at all dealerships but they tinker with the numbers to make it look favorable. There's lots of different things and numbers they can change to make it work "with your budget". Obviously, buyout value at the end is important. 36 month is typical but just kind of matters on what your trying to get and what your monthly budget is. Perks are always nice (free maintenance, etc.)
If you use a broker, they will find a great deal for you and then you can use them again to buy it back about a year before your lease is over to get bang for your buck to release or put down to buy and not have to worry about "wear and tear" or mileage. If you get a car that retains value well and your residual value at the end is ideal, you can get cash in hand back at the end or use it on something else.
What the hell is a broker, and where do I find one?
It's a car dealer who is not associated with a certain dealership. They work with all the car companies corporate offices. They have no ties to certain cars/quotas/bonuses, etc. The dealership and car salesman take a cut of every deal made. When you use a broker, you cut out the dealership cut so it's a better deal and they can put you into any car you want.
link please.
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I'm going to lease my next car. Suggestos?
Like I said earlier.. use a broker (and preferably one you can trust, get referred to, or can get to know before deciding whether to use them). You can get "deals" on leases at all dealerships but they tinker with the numbers to make it look favorable. There's lots of different things and numbers they can change to make it work "with your budget". Obviously, buyout value at the end is important. 36 month is typical but just kind of matters on what your trying to get and what your monthly budget is. Perks are always nice (free maintenance, etc.)
If you use a broker, they will find a great deal for you and then you can use them again to buy it back about a year before your lease is over to get bang for your buck to release or put down to buy and not have to worry about "wear and tear" or mileage. If you get a car that retains value well and your residual value at the end is ideal, you can get cash in hand back at the end or use it on something else.
What the hell is a broker, and where do I find one?
It's a car dealer who is not associated with a certain dealership. They work with all the car companies corporate offices. They have no ties to certain cars/quotas/bonuses, etc. The dealership and car salesman take a cut of every deal made. When you use a broker, you cut out the dealership cut so it's a better deal and they can put you into any car you want.
link please.
Where are you located?
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I'm going to lease my next car. Suggestos?
Like I said earlier.. use a broker (and preferably one you can trust, get referred to, or can get to know before deciding whether to use them). You can get "deals" on leases at all dealerships but they tinker with the numbers to make it look favorable. There's lots of different things and numbers they can change to make it work "with your budget". Obviously, buyout value at the end is important. 36 month is typical but just kind of matters on what your trying to get and what your monthly budget is. Perks are always nice (free maintenance, etc.)
If you use a broker, they will find a great deal for you and then you can use them again to buy it back about a year before your lease is over to get bang for your buck to release or put down to buy and not have to worry about "wear and tear" or mileage. If you get a car that retains value well and your residual value at the end is ideal, you can get cash in hand back at the end or use it on something else.
What the hell is a broker, and where do I find one?
It's a car dealer who is not associated with a certain dealership. They work with all the car companies corporate offices. They have no ties to certain cars/quotas/bonuses, etc. The dealership and car salesman take a cut of every deal made. When you use a broker, you cut out the dealership cut so it's a better deal and they can put you into any car you want.
link please.
Where are you located?
Topeka, KS.
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a buick? come on man
Regal turbo, awd, 6mt :love:
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I really like the last couple yrs of buicks. Wife really wants the SUV.
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I'm going to lease my next car. Suggestos?
give us some parameters
Looking at Camry/Altima/Accord types of vehicles, mid range, $180-$280 price range a mo.
have you seen the new acura ilx?
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a buick? come on man
Regal turbo, awd, 6mt :love:
come on, man
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I'm going to lease my next car. Suggestos?
give us some parameters
Looking at Camry/Altima/Accord types of vehicles, mid range, $180-$280 price range a mo.
have you seen the new acura ilx?
Pretty nice, but more expensive than those cars.
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I'm going to lease my next car. Suggestos?
give us some parameters
Looking at Camry/Altima/Accord types of vehicles, mid range, $180-$280 price range a mo.
have you seen the new acura ilx?
Pretty nice, but more expensive than those cars.
it's well within his budget
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I'm going to lease my next car. Suggestos?
Like I said earlier.. use a broker (and preferably one you can trust, get referred to, or can get to know before deciding whether to use them). You can get "deals" on leases at all dealerships but they tinker with the numbers to make it look favorable. There's lots of different things and numbers they can change to make it work "with your budget". Obviously, buyout value at the end is important. 36 month is typical but just kind of matters on what your trying to get and what your monthly budget is. Perks are always nice (free maintenance, etc.)
If you use a broker, they will find a great deal for you and then you can use them again to buy it back about a year before your lease is over to get bang for your buck to release or put down to buy and not have to worry about "wear and tear" or mileage. If you get a car that retains value well and your residual value at the end is ideal, you can get cash in hand back at the end or use it on something else.
What the hell is a broker, and where do I find one?
It's a car dealer who is not associated with a certain dealership. They work with all the car companies corporate offices. They have no ties to certain cars/quotas/bonuses, etc. The dealership and car salesman take a cut of every deal made. When you use a broker, you cut out the dealership cut so it's a better deal and they can put you into any car you want.
link please.
Where are you located?
Topeka, KS.
Don't know any there. Just search automobile broker in topeka or kansas city, you'll find some. They are just car dealers that aren't connected to specific brands.
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I think at some point in my life (probably midlife crisis time) I would like to buy a BMW 5 series and do European delivery over a summer.
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I'm going to lease my next car. Suggestos?
give us some parameters
If you are leasing, I'd go with a Buick. Those things are really nice these days, with LOADS of options, BUT I would personally have concerns about owning one for the long haul. Leasing seems perfect for a domestic luxury car.
Currently leasing a Buick. It's pretty darn nice. Mainly went with it cause my buddies a Buick GMC dealer and they took my old trade for two years of this lease with no payments or expenses to me other than gas n insurance.
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a buick? come on man
Regal turbo, awd, 6mt :love:
I really wish you could get awd with 3 pedals in Regal but awd models are auto only. It would be the second best sleeper behind the SS I am going to have a hard time not buying with the 6mt and magnetic shocks Chevy has added for 2015
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didn't realize there were so many buick fans here in the BWWFSOB
got to say, i'm surprised
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tacoma
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tacoma
have been shopping for cold weather vehicles, couldn't believe how well these things hold their value.
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tacoma
have been shopping for cold weather vehicles, couldn't believe how well these things hold their value.
I got a 2010 a month ago. It's fantastic. Great vehicle if you like a mid-sized pickup.
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Thoughts on cars with turbo? Our office cars have them. Hard to get used to. I could see liking them if you drive them a lot, though.
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Thoughts on cars with turbo? Our office cars have them. Hard to get used to. I could see liking them if you drive them a lot, though.
imo naturally aspirated > turbo
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What you really get for cpo program, a warranty included in the purchase price, and a special
Interest rate that is paid for in the purchase price, you generally can find a non cpo for 3-5k
Less than the cpo. There is really no value in it because without it you can choose for yourself
weather to buy a warranty, pay cash, finance or whatever.
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I need a good 20kish used vehicle any dealer recomendos for wichita area
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didn't realize there were so many buick fans here in the BWWFSOB
got to say, i'm surprised
a nice Buick won't get you a coveted valet spot on the curb in front of the 'falloon but they have really improved since the LeSabre & Skylark days.
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The market for used awd/4x4 in Colorado is insane. You don't save much getting a lightly used car.
look for 4x4s in phoenix. lots of lightly used, good prices. worth the trip.
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I think at some point in my life (probably midlife crisis time) I would like to buy a BMW 5 series and do European delivery over a summer.
That used to be a super sweet way to pick up a Ducati before the Euro started dominating the $.
The story was you could pick your bike up in Bologna, ride it around for a couple of weeks or whatever and then Ducati would ship it to your local dealer and it all cost less than buying one in the US. Maybe crap like this will come back if Hillary wins :crossfingers:
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I think at some point in my life (probably midlife crisis time) I would like to buy a BMW 5 series and do European delivery over a summer.
That used to be a super sweet way to pick up a Ducati before the Euro started dominating the $.
The story was you could pick your bike up in Bologna, ride it around for a couple of weeks or whatever and then Ducati would ship it to your local dealer and it all cost less than buying one in the US. Maybe crap like this will come back if Hillary wins :crossfingers:
That is still the case. You are purchasing the cars/bikes in US$ through a US auto dealer, but you are buying it directly from the factory, so while the dealer gets to capture the sale toward their monthly number, they are basically acting only as an agent to transact the deal. The price paid is negotiable, but the European Delivery MSRP and Invoice prices are always below the US MSRP/Invoice prices. Depending upon the automaker, you also get discounts/accommodations when traveling and a free/discounted delivery to US after your trip.
The main downsides:
the cost of the trip
the fact that financing is very difficult to obtain for European Delivery
the shipping time back to the US
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I'm going to lease my next car. Suggestos?
Like I said earlier.. use a broker (and preferably one you can trust, get referred to, or can get to know before deciding whether to use them). You can get "deals" on leases at all dealerships but they tinker with the numbers to make it look favorable. There's lots of different things and numbers they can change to make it work "with your budget". Obviously, buyout value at the end is important. 36 month is typical but just kind of matters on what your trying to get and what your monthly budget is. Perks are always nice (free maintenance, etc.)
If you use a broker, they will find a great deal for you and then you can use them again to buy it back about a year before your lease is over to get bang for your buck to release or put down to buy and not have to worry about "wear and tear" or mileage. If you get a car that retains value well and your residual value at the end is ideal, you can get cash in hand back at the end or use it on something else.
What the hell is a broker, and where do I find one?
It's a car dealer who is not associated with a certain dealership. They work with all the car companies corporate offices. They have no ties to certain cars/quotas/bonuses, etc. The dealership and car salesman take a cut of every deal made. When you use a broker, you cut out the dealership cut so it's a better deal and they can put you into any car you want.
link please.
Where are you located?
Topeka, KS.
Don't know any there. Just search automobile broker in topeka or kansas city, you'll find some. They are just car dealers that aren't connected to specific brands.
Pretty sure KS Auto Dealers had the state legislature outlaw brokers awhile back
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this automobile broker cat sounds like a badass
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a buick? come on man
Regal turbo, awd, 6mt :love:
I really wish you could get awd with 3 pedals in Regal but awd models are auto only. It would be the second best sleeper behind the SS I am going to have a hard time not buying with the 6mt and magnetic shocks Chevy has added for 2015
I stand corrected and now sad.
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Thoughts on cars with turbo? Our office cars have them. Hard to get used to. I could see liking them if you drive them a lot, though.
imo naturally aspirated > turbo
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I think at some point in my life (probably midlife crisis time) I would like to buy a BMW 5 series and do European delivery over a summer.
That used to be a super sweet way to pick up a Ducati before the Euro started dominating the $.
The story was you could pick your bike up in Bologna, ride it around for a couple of weeks or whatever and then Ducati would ship it to your local dealer and it all cost less than buying one in the US. Maybe crap like this will come back if Hillary wins :crossfingers:
That is still the case. You are purchasing the cars/bikes in US$ through a US auto dealer, but you are buying it directly from the factory, so while the dealer gets to capture the sale toward their monthly number, they are basically acting only as an agent to transact the deal. The price paid is negotiable, but the European Delivery MSRP and Invoice prices are always below the US MSRP/Invoice prices. Depending upon the automaker, you also get discounts/accommodations when traveling and a free/discounted delivery to US after your trip.
The main downsides:
the cost of the trip
the fact that financing is very difficult to obtain for European Delivery
the shipping time back to the US
Bill's strong dollar made it so you could almost pay for the trip with the savings, or so I have been told
This what Home equity loans are for
You won't want to ride at all in KS for months after carving Alpine mountain roads
Actually, 10 minutes of googling gives me the indication BMW is the only one still doing it :/
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I think at some point in my life (probably midlife crisis time) I would like to buy a BMW 5 series and do European delivery over a summer.
That used to be a super sweet way to pick up a Ducati before the Euro started dominating the $.
The story was you could pick your bike up in Bologna, ride it around for a couple of weeks or whatever and then Ducati would ship it to your local dealer and it all cost less than buying one in the US. Maybe crap like this will come back if Hillary wins :crossfingers:
That is still the case. You are purchasing the cars/bikes in US$ through a US auto dealer, but you are buying it directly from the factory, so while the dealer gets to capture the sale toward their monthly number, they are basically acting only as an agent to transact the deal. The price paid is negotiable, but the European Delivery MSRP and Invoice prices are always below the US MSRP/Invoice prices. Depending upon the automaker, you also get discounts/accommodations when traveling and a free/discounted delivery to US after your trip.
The main downsides:
the cost of the trip
the fact that financing is very difficult to obtain for European Delivery
the shipping time back to the US
Bill's strong dollar made it so you could almost pay for the trip with the savings, or so I have been told
This what Home equity loans are for
You won't want to ride at all in KS for months after carving Alpine mountain roads
Actually, 10 minutes of googling gives me the indication BMW is the only one still doing it :/
? http://www.audiusa.com/inventory/european-delivery
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I think he meant for motorcycles.
Nearly all the major European car manufacturers do it.
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Thoughts on cars with turbo? Our office cars have them. Hard to get used to. I could see liking them if you drive them a lot, though.
imo naturally aspirated > turbo
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hi rev v8 owns you and your turbo spool's face
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Thoughts on cars with turbo? Our office cars have them. Hard to get used to. I could see liking them if you drive them a lot, though.
imo naturally aspirated > turbo
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hi rev v8 owns you and your turbo spool's face
:thumbs:
I though you were making a comment on general principle on the value of turbos.
Obvs that LS and now LT1 variants make my heart warm. But who doesn't love an LS with massive amounts of forced induction!
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just sticking up for the s65b40. one of the finest engines ever made. rip.
everything is going turbo, 10 mpg high rev engines just aren't practical anymore.
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just sticking up for the s65b40. one of the finest engines ever made. rip.
everything is going turbo, 10 mpg high rev engines just aren't practical anymore.
This doesn't have to be true -with variable valve timing, direct injection, displacement on demand and even hybrid assist there are many ways to get acceptable fuel economy out of a high revving na motor. It's not like the turbo motors burn any less fuel when they are producing peak power.
To speak specifically about the M3 it is disappointing BMW moved away from the best sounding engine they have ever made in what was a cost savings move imo. Apparently, Ferrari is doing the same thing, it is bad enough they have almost completely phased out models with a clutch pedal :grrr:
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the new inline 3L v6 turbos ('14 M4 @ 17 mpg) certainly burn less fuel than the NA 4L v8's ('13 M3 @ 11 mpg)
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the new inline 3L v6 turbos ('14 M4 @ 17 mpg) certainly burn less fuel than the NA 4L v8's ('13 M3 @ 11 mpg)
:sdeek: do you have to wind it up to 4k in each gear just to keep up with traffic? A heavier 5.0 Mustang is rated at 15 mpg in the city
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I bought my car from PurpleWave
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Ideas for a used car under $25K with nice options and reliability? I keep coming back to an Acura TL, Toyota Avalon, Lexus ES 350 and RX 350. I am in a rut on this car search.
I want to be able to drive this thing for 5 - 7 years or so.
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Ideas for a used car under $25K with nice options and reliability? I keep coming back to an Acura TL, Toyota Avalon, Lexus ES 350 and RX 350. I am in a rut on this car search.
I want to be able to drive this thing for 5 - 7 years or so.
I would go with the Acura or Toyota.
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Ideas for a used car under $25K with nice options and reliability? I keep coming back to an Acura TL, Toyota Avalon, Lexus ES 350 and RX 350. I am in a rut on this car search.
I want to be able to drive this thing for 5 - 7 years or so.
My wife drives a 2011 Infiniti G37X and loves it. They just discontinued the G37 you coud get a 2012 for under 25 and maybe even a 2013 for that.
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Ideas for a used car under $25K with nice options and reliability? I keep coming back to an Acura TL, Toyota Avalon, Lexus ES 350 and RX 350. I am in a rut on this car search.
I want to be able to drive this thing for 5 - 7 years or so.
My wife drives a 2011 Infiniti G37X and loves it. They just discontinued the G37 you coud get a 2012 for under 25 and maybe even a 2013 for that.
I will check them out!
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you guys know a lot about cars. good work knowing all that stuff. my brain just doesn't care for it.
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you guys know a lot about cars. good work knowing all that stuff. my brain just doesn't care for it.
I like fancy buttons and leather
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you guys know a lot about cars. good work knowing all that stuff. my brain just doesn't care for it.
I like fancy buttons and leather
I need seats with both heat and AC inside them. you get me that kind of stuff and it can have whatever engine with moderate efficiency you want to slap on it.
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pete. i think you should buy a 1963 ford econoline and have someone restore it.
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Not a dave ramsey guy, but when I buy a vehicle, I wait until around Sept or Oct, then go buy one of the last of last year's models on the lot. They basically give them to you for free and give you free oil changes for life or something.
Pretty bored by cars. Don't really care as long as it is comfy and stuff. I mean, if I need my car to make my life better, there is probably other crap wrong.
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Not a dave ramsey guy, but when I buy a vehicle, I wait until around Sept or Oct, then go buy one of the last of last year's models on the lot. They basically give them to you for free and give you free oil changes for life or something.
Pretty bored by cars. Don't really care as long as it is comfy and stuff. I mean, if I need my car to make my life better, there is probably other crap wrong.
I don't know, if you get joy out of a cool/fast/fun car then power to you imo. all people like different stuff. car people seem like solid folk.
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It takes all kinds. Vroom, Vroom!
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Not a dave ramsey guy, but when I buy a vehicle, I wait until around Sept or Oct, then go buy one of the last of last year's models on the lot. They basically give them to you for free and give you free oil changes for life or something.
Pretty bored by cars. Don't really care as long as it is comfy and stuff. I mean, if I need my car to make my life better, there is probably other crap wrong.
I don't know, if you get joy out of a cool/fast/fun car then power to you imo. all people like different stuff. car people seem like solid folk.
yeah i don't care about cars either but different strokes and what not. i can see the appeal.
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Pretty bored by cars. Don't really care as long as it is comfy and stuff. I mean, if I need my car to make my life better, there is probably other crap wrong.
if you're bored by cars you probably drive a boring car
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Ideas for a used car under $25K with nice options and reliability? I keep coming back to an Acura TL, Toyota Avalon, Lexus ES 350 and RX 350. I am in a rut on this car search.
I want to be able to drive this thing for 5 - 7 years or so.
I used to have an Avalon and it was almost exactly like a Lexus except for the thermostat wasn't digital. Absolutely loved it. Would drive another when I have to drive again.
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Ideas for a used car under $25K with nice options and reliability? I keep coming back to an Acura TL, Toyota Avalon, Lexus ES 350 and RX 350. I am in a rut on this car search.
I want to be able to drive this thing for 5 - 7 years or so.
I used to have an Avalon and it was almost exactly like a Lexus except for the thermostat wasn't digital. Absolutely loved it. Would drive another when I have to drive again.
#bayareabrag
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:cool:
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get back to me when you pretenders get on my level:
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Leather is so awesome.
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Leather is so awesome.
It looks so disgusting after a few years. When new its great though.
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I will never buy a car without leather or heated seats
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Also auto lights, and that auto seat thing that pulls it all the way back when you remove the key
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Also auto lights, and that auto seat thing that pulls it all the way back when you remove the key
Pffft keys. Do you even push button start bro?
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Leather is so awesome.
It looks so disgusting after a few years. When new its great though.
they look great with a little maintenance. It's worth it IMO.
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Also auto lights, and that auto seat thing that pulls it all the way back when you remove the key
Pffft keys. Do you even push button start bro?
Never had one but I'm open to the idea.
You know what sucks? Chevy keyfobs. They are rough ridin' huge wtf.
Also the Ford keys that have the fob thing integrated into the key, you're too big key! Calm down!
I don't know what other cars use
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And how do people live without the "miles to empty" computer thing?
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And how do people live without the "miles to empty" computer thing?
most cars have gas guages
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And how do people live without the "miles to empty" computer thing?
most cars have gas guages
I literally don't even look at that thing like ever
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you guys know a lot about cars. good work knowing all that stuff. my brain just doesn't care for it.
Not gEing here. This exactly how I feel about cars and people who know all sorts of stuff about cars.
gEing here: :love:
Gonna win 'em all!
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My neighbor has three cars and all are convertibles. One looks like the one Dylan drove in 90210. The back opens up weird. Here is a picture, what kind is it?
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i don't know what kind of car that is but what is with the dirt pile and overgrown weeds and stuff
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He's got an empty lot next to his house filled with construction debris. If I pan down there is a dirt bike ramp some kids made.
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dirt bike ramp sounds fun
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do you have a basketball goal yet?
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No, I don't believe in driveway goals because driveways aren't flat. Throws my shot off. I'd be open to a backyard slab at some point.
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Not a very big fan of driveway recreation in general, to be honest.
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I had the bids and hoa approvals for a backyard patio/bball court, but then soccer happened. So I got a 17' goal instead.
Gonna win 'em all!
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Dylan drove a Porsche 356 Speedster. That looks like one and they are in 100k range and up but that could also be a replica - still worth 50k or so
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I went with an Acura with a bunch of stuff on it. I am pleased.
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I went with an Acura with a bunch of stuff on it. I am pleased.
What model and year?
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I went with an Acura with a bunch of stuff on it. I am pleased.
What model and year?
A 2010 RL. Loads of "stuff" on it.
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I went with an Acura with a bunch of stuff on it. I am pleased.
What model and year?
A 2010 RL. Loads of "stuff" on it.
Sounds great, I love "stuff"
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I went with an Acura with a bunch of stuff on it. I am pleased.
What model and year?
A 2010 RL. Loads of "stuff" on it.
Sounds great, I love "stuff"
a real car guy in here!
Gonna win 'em all!
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I went with an Acura with a bunch of stuff on it. I am pleased.
What model and year?
A 2010 RL. Loads of "stuff" on it.
great choice, you can't go wrong with the apex vehicle of Honda engineering. The RL is a very undervalued car because the lack of a V8 makes it not so popular with overcompensating car guys like me.
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I went with an Acura with a bunch of stuff on it. I am pleased.
What model and year?
A 2010 RL. Loads of "stuff" on it.
great choice, you can't go wrong with the apex vehicle of Honda engineering. The RL is a very undervalued car because the lack of a V8 makes it not so popular with overcompensating car guys like me.
This one has the "SH-AWD," so it has the shifters on the steering wheel, and all wheel drive, so it's pretty peppy.