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1)He's big
2)His running skills are VERY GOOD! He proved this last year
3)He's a nice guy
4)He gives AMAZING! interviews.
Anyway, what if klein turns out to be amazing? I'm holding out hope that he's really friggin good. But if he was really good, i'm assuming we would have heard some "rumblings" from some sources, and i haven't heard much.
What do you guys think? Is there a chance? Or have i just taken too much nyquil again? hahah. :D
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Did you see him in the spring game? I have relatively high expectations for him. :zip:
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0His throwing motion is kinda weird but he doesn't have to do much in our offense. No way he's worse than CCQ (overall) and we scored the balls pretty well last year. For right now, :teamck: if he starts sucking really bad I'll go back to :teamtuggle: . I would love to see what Sams could do but I think that's kinda like wondering what Harper could do.
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We basically outed over 73 or more squawks on this board when we called the Juan Valdez Completion Percentage Coffman success well in advance last year.
And, we are calling it again. Home Schoolz Kleiny Coff will EXCEED CCQ's numbers this year. Bank your books on it.
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huh?
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roundabout running back appreciation post.
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I am totally on teamck, I have high hopes for him and truly believe his passing has/is getting/gotten better!! I still replay a pretty long TD pass he had in the spring game that hit Tremaine Thompson in perfect stride.
If my memory is correct, it was something like that anyway. but yes i believe he has taken that next step, and wants to prove himself to everyone. He WILL come out and be a complete badass.
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KSU offense will score at least 35 ppg this year. Will it be enough?
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Love Coley and his thinly veiled remarks!
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KSU offense will score at least 35 ppg this year. Will it be enough?
Enough to go 6-6.
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We basically outed over 73 or more squawks on this board when we called the Juan Valdez Completion Percentage Coffman success well in advance last year.
And, we are calling it again. Home Schoolz Kleiny Coff will EXCEED CCQ's numbers this year. Bank your books on it.
Juan Carlos Completion Percentage Valdez
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=5562.msg119941#msg119941
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I think about CK being a badass every day.....but I also think about the defense going way beyond reasonable expectations and being average to almost good, too.
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We basically outed over 73 or more squawks on this board when we called the Juan Valdez Completion Percentage Coffman success well in advance last year.
And, we are calling it again. Home Schoolz Kleiny Coff will EXCEED CCQ's numbers this year. Bank your books on it.
Juan Carlos Completion Percentage Valdez
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=5562.msg119941#msg119941
Going to have to get one of these warmed up for Kleiny Coff
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi10.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa107%2Fbig12north%2FCarsonValdez.jpg&hash=379536f170c21b883a6947803258eb5bd32b4470)
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I think I'm gonna make a collin klein firefox persona that nobody will use sometime soon.
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the chamber
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the chamber
I prefer meals on wheels.
Serving up dinners of winners.
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keep in mind, we threw Klein out there to the wolves. He was out there without our two leading recievers. He was throwing to Bachamp and Quarles for chrissakes.
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keep in mind, we threw Klein out there to the wolves. He was out there without our two leading recievers. He was throwing to Bachamp and Quarles for chrissakes.
Yeah, but every throw I saw him make ended up in the dirt about 10 yards in front of him. I don't think the receivers were to blame. Hopefully he's gotten better.
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keep in mind, we threw Klein out there to the wolves. He was out there without our two leading recievers. He was throwing to Bachamp and Quarles for chrissakes.
Yeah, but every throw I saw him make ended up in the dirt about 10 yards in front of him. I don't think the receivers were to blame. Hopefully he's gotten better.
Beasley went through a similar phase. He was always throwing god damn bounce passes during his first season.
I expect Kleiny to be every bit as good as Beasley.
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I expect Kleiny to be every bit as good as Beasley.
:surprised:
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keep in mind, we threw Klein out there to the wolves. He was out there without our two leading recievers. He was throwing to Bachamp and Quarles for chrissakes.
Yeah, but every throw I saw him make ended up in the dirt about 10 yards in front of him. I don't think the receivers were to blame. Hopefully he's gotten better.
Beasley went through a similar phase. He was always throwing god damn bounce passes during his first season.
I expect Kleiny to be every bit as good as Beasley.
Roberson did the bounce pass thing too.
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nobody did the bounce pass as well as allan evridge
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We basically outed over 73 or more squawks on this board when we called the Juan Valdez Completion Percentage Coffman success well in advance last year.
And, we are calling it again. Home Schoolz Kleiny Coff will EXCEED CCQ's numbers this year. Bank your books on it.
Sounds like the groups are already starting to form...Team Kleiny Coff vs. Team Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
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keep in mind, we threw Klein out there to the wolves. He was out there without our two leading recievers. He was throwing to Bachamp and Quarles for chrissakes.
Yeah, but every throw I saw him make ended up in the dirt about 10 yards in front of him. I don't think the receivers were to blame. Hopefully he's gotten better.
Beasley went through a similar phase. He was always throwing god damn bounce passes during his first season.
I expect Kleiny to be every bit as good as Beasley.
Roberson did the bounce pass thing too.
Look, I understand that QB's can get better, and I hope that's the case. Let's just not go crazy saying that CK is going to be as good as Coffman before we even see him throw a pass this year.
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keep in mind, we threw Klein out there to the wolves. He was out there without our two leading recievers. He was throwing to Bachamp and Quarles for chrissakes.
Yeah, but every throw I saw him make ended up in the dirt about 10 yards in front of him. I don't think the receivers were to blame. Hopefully he's gotten better.
Beasley went through a similar phase. He was always throwing god damn bounce passes during his first season.
I expect Kleiny to be every bit as good as Beasley.
Roberson did the bounce pass thing too.
Look, I understand that QB's can get better, and I hope that's the case. Let's just not go crazy saying that CK is going to be as good as Coffman before we even see him throw a pass this year.
Klein would have beat Missouri.
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keep in mind, we threw Klein out there to the wolves. He was out there without our two leading recievers. He was throwing to Bachamp and Quarles for chrissakes.
Yeah, but every throw I saw him make ended up in the dirt about 10 yards in front of him. I don't think the receivers were to blame. Hopefully he's gotten better.
Beasley went through a similar phase. He was always throwing god damn bounce passes during his first season.
I expect Kleiny to be every bit as good as Beasley.
Roberson did the bounce pass thing too.
Look, I understand that QB's can get better, and I hope that's the case. Let's just not go crazy saying that CK is going to be as good as Coffman before we even see him throw a pass this year.
Klein would have beat Missouri.
Proof?
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:ck:
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nobody did the bounce pass as well as allan evridge
matt miller owned colorado with one
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keep in mind, we threw Klein out there to the wolves. He was out there without our two leading recievers. He was throwing to Bachamp and Quarles for chrissakes.
Yeah, but every throw I saw him make ended up in the dirt about 10 yards in front of him. I don't think the receivers were to blame. Hopefully he's gotten better.
Couldn't of been every throw he was 11 for 18. More then anything he just didn't throw the ball much and looked all out of rhythm when we called a pass.
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keep in mind, we threw Klein out there to the wolves. He was out there without our two leading recievers. He was throwing to Bachamp and Quarles for chrissakes.
Yeah, but every throw I saw him make ended up in the dirt about 10 yards in front of him. I don't think the receivers were to blame. Hopefully he's gotten better.
Beasley went through a similar phase. He was always throwing god damn bounce passes during his first season.
I expect Kleiny to be every bit as good as Beasley.
Roberson did the bounce pass thing too.
Look, I understand that QB's can get better, and I hope that's the case. Let's just not go crazy saying that CK is going to be as good as Coffman before we even see him throw a pass this year.
Klein would have beat Missouri.
Proof?
Klein kept us in the game until they put Coffman in to fumble the ball and throw some picks and generally piss away any chance we had at being competitive :flush: ... I'm certain most people who watched that game would agree we had a much better chance with Klein on the field...
:shakesfist:
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keep in mind, we threw Klein out there to the wolves. He was out there without our two leading recievers. He was throwing to Bachamp and Quarles for chrissakes.
Yeah, but every throw I saw him make ended up in the dirt about 10 yards in front of him. I don't think the receivers were to blame. Hopefully he's gotten better.
Coffman loved the bounce pass on out routes. I think it's a problem with overthrowing it and it probably fixes itself when the QB gets more comfortable.
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keep in mind, we threw Klein out there to the wolves. He was out there without our two leading recievers. He was throwing to Bachamp and Quarles for chrissakes.
Yeah, but every throw I saw him make ended up in the dirt about 10 yards in front of him. I don't think the receivers were to blame. Hopefully he's gotten better.
Beasley went through a similar phase. He was always throwing god damn bounce passes during his first season.
I expect Kleiny to be every bit as good as Beasley.
Roberson did the bounce pass thing too.
Look, I understand that QB's can get better, and I hope that's the case. Let's just not go crazy saying that CK is going to be as good as Coffman before we even see him throw a pass this year.
Klein would have beat Missouri.
Proof?
Klein kept us in the game until they put Coffman in to fumble the ball and throw some picks and generally piss away any chance we had at being competitive :flush: ... I'm certain most people who watched that game would agree we had a much better chance with Klein on the field...
:shakesfist:
Both QB's were horrible. Just look at what the offense did when Klein came out to lead them at the start of the second half. Klein was only effective in the first half before Mizzou could make adjustments.
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OB is going to open the playbook for Kleiny Coff this year.
Tim Tebow type stuff here, guys.
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OB is going to open the playbook for Kleiny Coff this year.
Tim Tebow type stuff here, guys.
Lets get a jump pass instead of a bounce pass
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Klein had 140 some yards rushing against MU on 18 carries. He was also 4 for 6 throwing with a TD pass. Hard to say he was horrible at any point. They did shut down his running early in the second half and we stuck in Carson to try and make a come back. But Klein came back in later in the game and threw a pretty long TD pass. We moved the ball pretty well against MU in both halfs the turnovers just killed us.
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not happening. maybe, tuggle.
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How about the bounce option pitch a la Beas against NU '00?
We should try to incorporate that into our offense more.
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Klein had 140 some yards rushing against MU on 18 carries. He was also 4 for 6 throwing with a TD pass. Hard to say he was horrible at any point. They did shut down his running early in the second half and we stuck in Carson to try and make a come back. But Klein came back in later in the game and threw a pretty long TD pass. We moved the ball pretty well against MU in both halfs the turnovers just killed us.
Carson also had a nice long TD pass running the 2 minute drill, fwiw. No QB is going to have a horrible-looking stat line when they only throw 6 passes and the defense is unprepared to face them. Mizzou adjusted in the second half and we couldn't move the ball because Klein was a horrible passer. I do think Klein will be improved this year, but last year, Coffman was clearly the better option. I wouldn't just take it for granted that Klein will be an improvement over Coffman.
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Klein had 140 some yards rushing against MU on 18 carries. He was also 4 for 6 throwing with a TD pass. Hard to say he was horrible at any point. They did shut down his running early in the second half and we stuck in Carson to try and make a come back. But Klein came back in later in the game and threw a pretty long TD pass. We moved the ball pretty well against MU in both halfs the turnovers just killed us.
Carson also had a nice long TD pass running the 2 minute drill, fwiw. No QB is going to have a horrible-looking stat line when they only throw 6 passes and the defense is unprepared to face them. Mizzou adjusted in the second half and we couldn't move the ball because Klein was a horrible passer. I do think Klein will be improved this year, but last year, Coffman was clearly the better option. I wouldn't just take it for granted that Klein will be an improvement over Coffman.
Carson played well vs. MU at times save for the turnovers he moved the team well. I don't disagree that Carson was the better option last season. I do think Klein will likely be better this year then Coffman was last year. He's just more talented and a better fit for the offense. Look at how awful Coffman was his junior season. QB's tend to look awful a first and then improve a lot in Snyder's system as long as they work hard and are not dumbasses. Given there wasn't much of a gap between Klein and Coffman last year I would guess he'll improve enough this off season to supass Coffman's level of play.
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Klein had 140 some yards rushing against MU on 18 carries. He was also 4 for 6 throwing with a TD pass. Hard to say he was horrible at any point. They did shut down his running early in the second half and we stuck in Carson to try and make a come back. But Klein came back in later in the game and threw a pretty long TD pass. We moved the ball pretty well against MU in both halfs the turnovers just killed us.
Carson also had a nice long TD pass running the 2 minute drill, fwiw. No QB is going to have a horrible-looking stat line when they only throw 6 passes and the defense is unprepared to face them. Mizzou adjusted in the second half and we couldn't move the ball because Klein was a horrible passer. I do think Klein will be improved this year, but last year, Coffman was clearly the better option. I wouldn't just take it for granted that Klein will be an improvement over Coffman.
Carson played well vs. MU at times save for the turnovers he moved the team well. I don't disagree that Carson was the better option last season. I do think Klein will likely be better this year then Coffman was last year. He's just more talented and a better fit for the offense. Look at how awful Coffman was his junior season. QB's tend to look awful a first and then improve a lot in Snyder's system as long as they work hard and are not dumbasses. Given there wasn't much of a gap between Klein and Coffman last year I would guess he'll improve enough this off season to supass Coffman's level of play.
Yeah, I'm not saying he won't be better, and I agree that it's likely he will be. It's also somewhat likely that he won't, though. We will move the ball and score points, regardless.
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who cares if he can throw? he will asspound people with his running. didn't he asspound texas with hus running?
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besides, it's not like snyder wants to ever throw the ball.
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who cares if he can throw? he will asspound people with his running. didn't he asspound texas with hus running?
This :thumbs: :kstategrad: :lynchmob:
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This season might actually be the perfect storm for us to suck hard.
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who cares if he can throw? he will asspound people with his running. didn't he asspound texas with hus running?
Correct.
Kleiny this year will be a LOT like Beasley. You'll see some fake-option passing (remember that beauty that he tossed for a TD in Boulder), they have to bite on it.
We have already seen Kleiny throw this exact same pass ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O82DyNdB7iY ), cept now he'll be tossing it to Harper and/or Sams (yes, Sams).
After Kavs left, Snyder completely switched to yards per completion as his measuring stick for the passing game. He was to nail you deep every once in a while. Partly because you can get a big play that changes the momentum of the game, but mostly because it keeps those DB's back there and gives his QB options for running like a bagillion times more a game.
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This season might actually be the perfect storm for us to suck hard.
the difference between horrible and "okay" is 1 win. 5 or 6
7 would be good
8 would be a miracle and the fumble gods are handing us points
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This season might actually be the perfect storm for us to suck hard.
the difference between horrible and "okay" is 1 win. 5 or 6
7 would be good
8 would be a miracle and the fumble gods are handing us points
You just described how every season will be as long as we are in the Big 12 and play every team once. This is the reason that we need to pay for non-con wins and avoid "sexy" matchups that appease casual fans. I prefer to go to my bowl game in December than in August, than you very rough ridin' much.
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Yeah- You gotta figure OU and UT are always going to be very good, Mizzou, TTU, aTm, and OSU are going to be solid to good, Baylor, KU, and ISU should be winnable games most years. 5 wins in conference would be a very nice season. I say we schedule two total cupcakes and one game against a lower end BCS type team.
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now he'll be tossing it to Harper and/or Sams (yes, Sams).
:flush: :flush: :flush: :flush: :flush:
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who cares if he can throw? he will asspound people with his running. didn't he asspound texas with hus running?
Correct.
Kleiny this year will be a LOT like Beasley. You'll see some fake-option passing (remember that beauty that he tossed for a TD in Boulder), they have to bite on it.
We have already seen Kleiny throw this exact same pass ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O82DyNdB7iY ), cept now he'll be tossing it to Harper and/or Sams (yes, Sams).
After Kavs left, Snyder completely switched to yards per completion as his measuring stick for the passing game. He was to nail you deep every once in a while. Partly because you can get a big play that changes the momentum of the game, but mostly because it keeps those DB's back there and gives his QB options for running like a bagillion times more a game.
Yes with the QB run game you outnumber a 7 man front. So the defense has to bring up a safety and then you throw behind them deep. If you have a guy that is a threat to run and can hit an occasional deep ball it is very hard to defend. We know Klein can run and I believe he can hit the occasional deep ball.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/31272/video-kansas-state-qb-colline-klein
What's up with our players giving seducing stares at the beginning of these interviews? :love:
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How tall is Ubben?
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How tall is Ubben?
Would guess 5'4"
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Dang we need to get Ubben a milk crate to stand on, they could barily get them both in the same frame :grin:
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http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/31272/video-kansas-state-qb-colline-klein
What's up with our players giving seducing stares at the beginning of these interviews? :love:
Two thoughts-
Ubben is slightly midgety.
Collin would look like a complete badass if he grew a mountain man beard.
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I'm not even sure he's a real dwarf.
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I'm not even sure he's a real dwarf.
troll maybe ? :grin:
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this thread needs to be retitled
fff,
you used to be good at this
:party:
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http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/31272/video-kansas-state-qb-colline-klein
What's up with our players giving seducing stares at the beginning of these interviews? :love:
No, guys, it wasn't a reporter, it was incoming freshman QB, Daniel Sams, who started that rumor. He claimed that Klein was going back to WR, so the QB battle would be between him and Tuggle. Obviously, Sams was just wishful thinking aloud.
god sams is rough ridin' awesome
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Dave Ubben looks like this guy --> :comeatme:
Why did ESPN hire a crack head oompa loompa?
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Q: What other players have you met?
A: Umm ... well, we got to hang out with a couple of guys from Iowa State and it was pretty neat or whatever.
Dude. Don't sound so lame. Just lie if you have to.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/31272/video-kansas-state-qb-colline-klein
What's up with our players giving seducing stares at the beginning of these interviews? :love:
No, guys, it wasn't a reporter, it was incoming freshman QB, Daniel Sams, who started that rumor. He claimed that Klein was going back to WR, so the QB battle would be between him and Tuggle. Obviously, Sams was just wishful thinking aloud.
god sams is rough ridin' awesome
Daniel Sams facebook status from yesterday eludes to the fact he has been practicing with the number 1's, and was asked if he would start simply stated, "yu will see" :surprised:
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http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/31272/video-kansas-state-qb-colline-klein
What's up with our players giving seducing stares at the beginning of these interviews? :love:
No, guys, it wasn't a reporter, it was incoming freshman QB, Daniel Sams, who started that rumor. He claimed that Klein was going back to WR, so the QB battle would be between him and Tuggle. Obviously, Sams was just wishful thinking aloud.
god sams is rough ridin' awesome
Daniel Sams facebook status from yesterday eludes to the fact he has been practicing with the number 1's, and was asked if he would start simply stated, "yu will see" :surprised:
Does it say what position he's been practicing at?
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http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/31272/video-kansas-state-qb-colline-klein
What's up with our players giving seducing stares at the beginning of these interviews? :love:
No, guys, it wasn't a reporter, it was incoming freshman QB, Daniel Sams, who started that rumor. He claimed that Klein was going back to WR, so the QB battle would be between him and Tuggle. Obviously, Sams was just wishful thinking aloud.
god sams is rough ridin' awesome
Daniel Sams facebook status from yesterday eludes to the fact he has been practicing with the number 1's, and was asked if he would start simply stated, "yu will see" :surprised:
Does it say what position he's been practicing at?
Nope just has a H.S friend stating he heard Daniel was running with the number 1's and Sams told heim "yeah". But he never said where he was playing..... but it doesn't sound like he has an asperations of redshirting this season....... :thumbs:
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http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/31272/video-kansas-state-qb-colline-klein
What's up with our players giving seducing stares at the beginning of these interviews? :love:
No, guys, it wasn't a reporter, it was incoming freshman QB, Daniel Sams, who started that rumor. He claimed that Klein was going back to WR, so the QB battle would be between him and Tuggle. Obviously, Sams was just wishful thinking aloud.
god sams is rough ridin' awesome
Daniel Sams facebook status from yesterday eludes to the fact he has been practicing with the number 1's, and was asked if he would start simply stated, "yu will see" :surprised:
Steve Dave and I called it, if true of course
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http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/31272/video-kansas-state-qb-colline-klein
What's up with our players giving seducing stares at the beginning of these interviews? :love:
No, guys, it wasn't a reporter, it was incoming freshman QB, Daniel Sams, who started that rumor. He claimed that Klein was going back to WR, so the QB battle would be between him and Tuggle. Obviously, Sams was just wishful thinking aloud.
god sams is rough ridin' awesome
Daniel Sams facebook status from yesterday eludes to the fact he has been practicing with the number 1's, and was asked if he would start simply stated, "yu will see" :surprised:
Steve Dave and I called it, if true of course
I hope he doesn't redshirt man.... I don't care if he is only returnng punts, we need this kid suited up on the field. He just brings a higher level of athletisim and swagger then we have had in a long time.... :lynchmob:
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http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/31272/video-kansas-state-qb-colline-klein
What's up with our players giving seducing stares at the beginning of these interviews? :love:
No, guys, it wasn't a reporter, it was incoming freshman QB, Daniel Sams, who started that rumor. He claimed that Klein was going back to WR, so the QB battle would be between him and Tuggle. Obviously, Sams was just wishful thinking aloud.
god sams is rough ridin' awesome
Daniel Sams facebook status from yesterday eludes to the fact he has been practicing with the number 1's, and was asked if he would start simply stated, "yu will see" :surprised:
Steve Dave and I called it, if true of course
I hope he doesn't redshirt man.... I don't care if he is only returnng punts, we need this kid suited up on the field. He just brings a higher level of athletisim and swagger then we have had in a long time.... :lynchmob:
added to Sams facebook today(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash4%2F223173_260024567342355_100000044406101_1175047_1192035_s.jpg&hash=e1f2e0bb2032063b7c4cb31120e69996e2ff2766)
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Dana Dimel from today's media
On Freshman Quarterback Daniel Sams…
“I don’t see him playing that much this year. He may have a chance to play some at wide receiver but that might not happen because of the depth that we have. We have some really, really good depth at that position. Daniel (Sams) might do that down the road but right now we are going to have him stick at quarterback.”
Who knows maybe he is just playing it cool.
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WTF is a Snyder assistant doing talking to the media?!
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WTF is a Snyder assistant doing talking to the media?!
They're allowed to talk one day a year on media day.
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Well, well, well...
Looks like the Kleiny Coff wagon needs to hitch on a few more cabbooeses to hold these johnny-come-lately-kleiny-coffers...
Snyder, Del Miller, and Stan Webber seem to have zero reservations..
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about Klein as our guy at QB. NONE. I think Webber understands the position and for two weeks in a row on Petro's show he has stated Klein has tremendous upside and the potential to be an "unbelievable quarterback". I read the article today on KSU's site and Del said the following,
"As the Wildcats are in the midst of two-a-days, Miller says of Klein, 'The sky is the limit for him. He’s really turned into a strong leader for us. He has an impeccable work-ethic … just unbelievable. At that size, he can really run, plus he has an arm that is really good.'
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That Stan Webber is a QB genius, the next Warren Ruggiero perhaps.
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Guys, if he is "good" and our defense is "manageable", we could make quite the splash.
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Guys, if he is "good" and our defense is "manageable", we could make quite the splash.
7-5 to 8-4 count on it
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This season might actually be the perfect storm for us to suck hard.
this is what I'm thinking :dunno: 4-8
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3 rough ridin' stars
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Badass? Yes. Complete Badass? Maybe!
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chamber!
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all of the old timey dod tards won't admit it, but klein is just as good as roberson. probably better.
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all of the old timey dod tards won't admit it, but klein is just as good as roberson. probably better.
I've amended my previous statements declaring that he'll be "as good as Beasley in his first year at starter," and am now going with Beasley as a Senior.
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all of the old timey dod tards won't admit it, but klein is just as good as roberson. probably better.
:eek: :lol:
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Anyway, what if klein turns out to be amazing? I'm holding out hope that he's really friggin good. But if he was really good, i'm assuming we would have heard some "rumblings" from some sources, and i haven't heard much.
What if he was already amazing last year? :driving:
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all of the old timey dod tards won't admit it, but klein is just as good as roberson. probably better.
Comparing Roberson Junior season to Klein Junior season, right? If so I'd say it's possible. Ell definitely had a stronger arm though.
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i have to admit, was a little worried when i saw his arm bleeding. wasn't sure if the grass was going to start sprouting little badasses.
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i have to admit, was a little worried when i saw his arm bleeding. wasn't sure if the grass was going to start sprouting little badasses.
:lol:
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Has anybody ever shaken hands or high fived Colin? After those fumbles yesterday, I'm slightly concerned that he might have the hands like Dave Krieg/12 year girl. :dunno:
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Has anybody ever shaken hands or high fived Colin? After those fumbles yesterday, I'm slightly concerned that he might have the hands like Dave Krieg/12 year girl. :dunno:
Leave.
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Has anybody ever shaken hands or high fived Colin? After those fumbles yesterday, I'm slightly concerned that he might have the hands like Dave Krieg/12 year girl. :dunno:
Dude his hand and his elbows looked like they met a machete
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Has anybody ever shaken hands or high fived Colin? After those fumbles yesterday, I'm slightly concerned that he might have the hands like Dave Krieg/12 year girl. :dunno:
idk. that left thumb looks ridiculously weird/long/mobile. seems like we're ok here although it could be photoshopped or something. great pregunta sg. thoughts of people that have met him in person? weigh in here. more questions, this is your place catsfans.
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Has anybody ever shaken hands or high fived Colin? After those fumbles yesterday, I'm slightly concerned that he might have the hands like Dave Krieg/12 year girl. :dunno:
idk. that left thumb looks ridiculously weird/long/mobile. seems like we're ok here although it could be photoshopped or something. great pregunta sg. thoughts or people that have met him in person? weigh in here. more questions, this is your place catsfans.
looks like its perfect for a classy cats anus
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OB is going to open the playbook for Kleiny Coff this year.
Tim Tebow type stuff here, guys.
Lets get a jump pass instead of a bounce pass
wish granted :thumbsup:
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OB is going to open the playbook for Kleiny Coff this year.
Tim Tebow type stuff here, guys.
Lets get a jump pass instead of a bounce pass
wish granted :thumbsup:
It wasn't a wish, it was a statement of fact.
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Has anybody ever shaken hands or high fived Colin? After those fumbles yesterday, I'm slightly concerned that he might have the hands like Dave Krieg/12 year girl. :dunno:
idk. that left thumb looks ridiculously weird/long/mobile. seems like we're ok here although it could be photoshopped or something. great pregunta sg. thoughts of people that have met him in person? weigh in here. more questions, this is your place catsfans.
I'd say he has average sized hands for a man of his stature. I don't remember much about his hands but I remember his arms being particularly muscle-y, more so than I expected.
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I'd say he has average sized hands for a man of his stature. I don't remember much about his hands but I remember his arms being particularly muscle-y, more so than I expected.
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OB is going to open the playbook for Kleiny Coff this year.
Tim Tebow type stuff here, guys.
:gocho:
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This season might actually be the perfect storm for us to suck hard.
this is what I'm thinking :dunno: 4-8
jfc what a effing dumbass :facepalm:
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KSU offense will score at least 35 ppg this year. Will it be enough?
Or EXACTLY 35.
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gotta love ksu-football day dreaming during the lazy days of summer.. :blush:
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Or have i just taken too much nyquil again? hahah. :D
No fatts, it wasn't your nyquil! :D
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Ck and crew are number 8 on SC's Top Plays.
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Signing autographs after his 6 td show. What a humanitarian. :love:
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I'm kind of pissed I got him 3 stars now. He would be much more of a hero with 2.
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Ck and crew are number 8 on SC's Top Plays.
Which play?
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Signing autographs after his 6 td show. What a humanitarian. :love:
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If he wasn't such a genuine good guy he would be taking advantage of this with the local females.
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Signing autographs after his 6 td show. What a humanitarian. :love:
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If he wasn't such a genuine good guy he would be taking advantage of this with the local females.
One of my favorite things he did last night was when he ran down to Curry Sexton after he got facemasked and turned around all weird and made sure he was okay.
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5 rushing TD's and he'll have the second most rushing TD's in a season. Barry Sanders way out there with 37.
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Is there any scenario where Klien gets serious Heisman consideration? Or do you think with the poor showing in the OU game, complied with two loses it's a lost cause? Because when push comes to shove, He is K-State football and a damn good player. I really wanna see him and Tebow face off in the octagon :emawkid:
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If we win out and he breaks the single season record (which he'll have to battle Montee Ball for), he'll get as much heisman love as Ricky Dobbs.
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Is there any scenario where Klien gets serious Heisman consideration? Or do you think with the poor showing in the OU game, complied with two loses it's a lost cause? Because when push comes to shove, He is K-State football and a damn good player. I really wanna see him and Tebow face off in the octagon :emawkid:
yeah those 2 Ls, although one isn't that bad for him really hurt.
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1)He's big
2)His running skills are VERY GOOD! He proved this last year
3)He's a nice guy
4)He gives AMAZING! interviews.
Anyway, what if klein turns out to be amazing? I'm holding out hope that he's really friggin good. But if he was really good, i'm assuming we would have heard some "rumblings" from some sources, and i haven't heard much.
What do you guys think? Is there a chance? Or have i just taken too much nyquil again? hahah. :D
Now that we have proven that CK is, indeed, a badass, can CK take it to the next level (Bishop, E3)?
I say yes.
The WR's are there, the line seems solid, the TE's are solid as well...if we can get good help from the running backs, who knows how good this kid can be?
What if Sams ends up playing some RB? OH MAN....
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1)He's big
2)His running skills are VERY GOOD! He proved this last year
3)He's a nice guy
4)He gives AMAZING! interviews.
Anyway, what if klein turns out to be amazing? I'm holding out hope that he's really friggin good. But if he was really good, i'm assuming we would have heard some "rumblings" from some sources, and i haven't heard much.
What do you guys think? Is there a chance? Or have i just taken too much nyquil again? hahah. :D
Now that we have proven that CK is, indeed, a badass, can CK take it to the next level (Bishop, E3)?
I say yes.
The WR's are there, the line seems solid, the TE's are solid as well...if we can get good help from the running backs, who knows how good this kid can be?
What if Sams ends up playing some RB? OH MAN....
i catch myself day dreaming about klein's stats. i'm embarrassed to say the numbers i think he can achieve.
because the offense wasn't spectacular last year it is hard to know how being a year better at 10 positions will take form. i'm going to be so bold as to predict that we blow out(21+) three big XII teams this year.
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1)He's big
2)His running skills are VERY GOOD! He proved this last year
3)He's a nice guy
4)He gives AMAZING! interviews.
Anyway, what if klein turns out to be amazing? I'm holding out hope that he's really friggin good. But if he was really good, i'm assuming we would have heard some "rumblings" from some sources, and i haven't heard much.
What do you guys think? Is there a chance? Or have i just taken too much nyquil again? hahah. :D
Now that we have proven that CK is, indeed, a badass, can CK take it to the next level (Bishop, E3)?
I say yes.
The WR's are there, the line seems solid, the TE's are solid as well...if we can get good help from the running backs, who knows how good this kid can be?
What if Sams ends up playing some RB? OH MAN....
Look at the improvement in numbers for Bish, Bease and El from Jr. to Sr. I think it's reasonable to expect similar results for Klien.
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He needs a running back.
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Please save these questions for his bachelor party hosted by goEMAW.
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when Snyder returns a lot of players on the offensive side and has a senior QB...the numbers tend to explode. I fully expect some pinball machine type torrid scoring contests.
I think Klein will throw for about 2800 but I'm not sure if he runs quite as much this year.
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I think Klein will throw for about 2800
lol
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I think Klein will throw for about 2800
lol
he'll throw 7 to 10 times more per game. All of Snyder's senior QBs did - Bishop, Beasley, and Roberson - compared to their junior years.
1) He'll complete a higher percentage of his passes.
2) His yardage per completion will increase due to improved decision-making and chemistry with his receivers.
3) he threw the ball 281 times last year, hit 57% of his passes, and his yards per completion was about 11.9.
If he attempts approx 8-9 more per game he will have around 400 passes. If he completes 60% of his passes he will have 240 completions. If each completion is 12 yards per completion he'll throw for 2,880 yards.
It may be that he attempts only 5 more passes per game. If he completes 60% of those passes he's around 210 completions or so...13.3 yards per completion gets him 2,800.
Bottom line...this SHOULD be a more athletic OL to give him better protection. If only minimal it will help. His pocket presence, understanding of the passing game, chemistry with receivers, decision-making, reads, etc. should ALL be improved. The addition of Clark and an extra year with Lockett (more experienced) all can improve completion percentage and yards per completion.
It isn't rocket science. 2800 yards over 13 games isn't a whole helluva lot of yards per game (215). He had that vs. Arkansas if his receivers hold on to the ball. He threw for that against OSU and aTm.
We'll see who is lol'ing come january, steve dave.
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For what it's worth, I hope we are all lol'ing come January.
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For what it's worth, I hope we are all lol'ing come January.
yes, lol'ing all over South Beach
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The real question is how will he matchup against Alabama in the title game down in Miami
"Brent Musberer here, coming to you live from the 2013 BCS National Championship game, I'm Joined in the booth by Kirk Herbstreit. How are you doing today Kirk"
"Its hot Brent! I know its Miami but its not supposed to be 80 degrees and humid at kickoff!"
"I'll tell you one person that's not concerned though and that's Kansas State Quarterback Colin Klein. Whether it was through the heat in that simmering day down in Norman where made a last second scramble over the goal line or through the snow in that November blizzard against Texas, this kid has been the pillar of consistency guiding Kansas State to their first perfect season"
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OU and K-State in the National Championship. OU pulls an LSU, beats us in the regular season, but we spank them in the NC.
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OU and K-State in the National Championship. OU pulls an LSU, beats us in the regular season, but we spank them in the NC.
Would take.
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OU and K-State in the National Championship. OU pulls an LSU, beats us in the regular season, but we spank them in the NC.
Would take.
You are a very big time dreamer. There is no way we would play in the MNC as a one loss team. :drink:
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I think Klein will throw for about 2800
lol
he'll throw 7 to 10 times more per game. All of Snyder's senior QBs did - Bishop, Beasley, and Roberson - compared to their junior years.
1) He'll complete a higher percentage of his passes.
2) His yardage per completion will increase due to improved decision-making and chemistry with his receivers.
3) he threw the ball 281 times last year, hit 57% of his passes, and his yards per completion was about 11.9.
If he attempts approx 8-9 more per game he will have around 400 passes. If he completes 60% of his passes he will have 240 completions. If each completion is 12 yards per completion he'll throw for 2,880 yards.
It may be that he attempts only 5 more passes per game. If he completes 60% of those passes he's around 210 completions or so...13.3 yards per completion gets him 2,800.
Bottom line...this SHOULD be a more athletic OL to give him better protection. If only minimal it will help. His pocket presence, understanding of the passing game, chemistry with receivers, decision-making, reads, etc. should ALL be improved. The addition of Clark and an extra year with Lockett (more experienced) all can improve completion percentage and yards per completion.
It isn't rocket science. 2800 yards over 13 games isn't a whole helluva lot of yards per game (215). He had that vs. Arkansas if his receivers hold on to the ball. He threw for that against OSU and aTm.
We'll see who is lol'ing come january, steve dave.
If he throws for 2800 I'll be fistpumping and not laughing. We will see a Sams package this year so that will take some snaps away too.
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The Manhatter, you need to learn how to let people disagree with you. This defensive, know-it-all side of you is very off-putting.
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The Manhatter, you need to learn how to let people disagree with you. This defensive, know-it-all side of you is very off-putting.
yeah he could learn a thing or two from _Fan
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_Fan is great but no one alive is better at making the KSU team look very formidable than Hatter. If he was a WSU fan, we'd seriously be thinking they had a good chance at a bowl this year.
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'Hatter goes into the detail. Almost everyone else would just talk crap at the end of the season...actually, half way through if it looks good. Not a lot of patience on here. Anyways, I'm convinced
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Everyone needs challenged, if you put people and what they say on a pedestal it might as well be GPC 2.0
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1)He's big
2)His running skills are VERY GOOD! He proved this last year
3)He's a nice guy
4)He gives AMAZING! interviews.
Anyway, what if klein turns out to be amazing? I'm holding out hope that he's really friggin good. But if he was really good, i'm assuming we would have heard some "rumblings" from some sources, and i haven't heard much.
What do you guys think? Is there a chance? Or have i just taken too much nyquil again? hahah. :D
:driving:
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1)He's big
2)His running skills are VERY GOOD! He proved this last year
3)He's a nice guy
4)He gives AMAZING! interviews.
Anyway, what if klein turns out to be amazing? I'm holding out hope that he's really friggin good. But if he was really good, i'm assuming we would have heard some "rumblings" from some sources, and i haven't heard much.
What do you guys think? Is there a chance? Or have i just taken too much nyquil again? hahah. :D
:driving:
what a beautiful prophet
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I think Klein will throw for about 2800
lol
he'll throw 7 to 10 times more per game. All of Snyder's senior QBs did - Bishop, Beasley, and Roberson - compared to their junior years.
1) He'll complete a higher percentage of his passes.
2) His yardage per completion will increase due to improved decision-making and chemistry with his receivers.
3) he threw the ball 281 times last year, hit 57% of his passes, and his yards per completion was about 11.9.
If he attempts approx 8-9 more per game he will have around 400 passes. If he completes 60% of his passes he will have 240 completions. If each completion is 12 yards per completion he'll throw for 2,880 yards.
It may be that he attempts only 5 more passes per game. If he completes 60% of those passes he's around 210 completions or so...13.3 yards per completion gets him 2,800.
Bottom line...this SHOULD be a more athletic OL to give him better protection. If only minimal it will help. His pocket presence, understanding of the passing game, chemistry with receivers, decision-making, reads, etc. should ALL be improved. The addition of Clark and an extra year with Lockett (more experienced) all can improve completion percentage and yards per completion.
It isn't rocket science. 2800 yards over 13 games isn't a whole helluva lot of yards per game (215). He had that vs. Arkansas if his receivers hold on to the ball. He threw for that against OSU and aTm.
We'll see who is lol'ing come january, steve dave.
this is going to be tough to get to 2,800 with CK at 887 with only 8 games left - even the 'hatter couldn't anticipate how dominant this running game is
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If he averages 159 passing yards and 85 rushing yards a game he'll get to 2000/1000 before the bowl, which would be pretty sweet.
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If he averages 159 passing yards and 85 rushing yards a game he'll get to 2000/1000 before the bowl, which would be pretty sweet.
Those numbers coupled with our NCG berth should seal it.
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His current twelve game pace is 2124/972.
I really want this now.
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His current twelve game pace is 2124/972.
I really want this now.
we have yet to play defenses wvu baylor tech and osu. he should get there barring some kind of you fill in the blank
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Also Collin will be getting more playing time once we play tougher teams.
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Collin Klein after five games: 887/405.
Cam Newton after five games: 928/474.
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Collin Klein after five games: 887/405.
Cam Newton after five games: 928/474.
Do Tebow!
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Collin Klein after five games: 887/405.
Cam Newton after five games: 928/474.
Do Tebow!
:nono:
Not a 2000/1000 guy.
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Collin Klein after five games: 887/405.
Cam Newton after five games: 928/474.
Do Tebow!
:nono:
Not a 2000/1000 guy.
Pffft. What a dork.
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Collin Klein after five games: 887/405.
Cam Newton after five games: 928/474.
Do Tebow!
:nono:
Not a 2000/1000 guy.
Pffft. What a dork.
my god fatty. the john the baptist of emaw.
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We basically outed over 73 or more squawks on this board when we called the Juan Valdez Completion Percentage Coffman success well in advance last year.
And, we are calling it again. Home Schoolz Kleiny Coff will EXCEED CCQ's numbers this year. Bank your books on it.
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1)He's big
2)His running skills are VERY GOOD! He proved this last year
3)He's a nice guy
4)He gives AMAZING! interviews.
Anyway, what if klein turns out to be amazing? I'm holding out hope that he's really friggin good. But if he was really good, i'm assuming we would have heard some "rumblings" from some sources, and i haven't heard much.
What do you guys think? Is there a chance? Or have i just taken too much nyquil again? hahah. :D
:driving:
what a beautiful prophet
yup
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keep in mind, we threw Klein out there to the wolves. He was out there without our two leading recievers. He was throwing to Bachamp and Quarles for chrissakes.
Yeah, but every throw I saw him make ended up in the dirt about 10 yards in front of him. I don't think the receivers were to blame. Hopefully he's gotten better.
Beasley went through a similar phase. He was always throwing god damn bounce passes during his first season.
I expect Kleiny to be every bit as good as Beasley.
Another good Pete post.
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Anyway, what if klein turns out to be amazing? I'm holding out hope that he's really friggin good. But if he was really good, i'm assuming we would have heard some "rumblings" from some sources, and i haven't heard much.
What if he was already amazing last year? :driving:
The "Jacory 4th down" thread got me thinking. What if Bill had thrown Colin to the wolves in 2010 and benched Carson? I mean, remember when he destroyed Texas? Could we have won the Dr. Pepper last year? :surprised:
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Anyway, what if klein turns out to be amazing? I'm holding out hope that he's really friggin good. But if he was really good, i'm assuming we would have heard some "rumblings" from some sources, and i haven't heard much.
What if he was already amazing last year? :driving:
The "Jacory 4th down" thread got me thinking. What if Bill had thrown Colin to the wolves in 2010 and benched Carson? I mean, remember when he destroyed Texas? Could we have won the Dr. Pepper last year? :surprised:
Hell, what if he would of given CK a shot in 2009 when GG's noodle arm went limp? BACK 2 BACK 2 BACK
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Klein Wins Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award... (http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/120312aaa.html)
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BSLC has informed me that CK7 is at the KS state house right now. They passed SR 175 Congratulating him for his achievements on and off the football field.
:emawkid: :bill: :ksu: :driving: :cheers:
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Great for him, but I hate it when they do stupid crap like this. I mean, we have better things for them to be spending the afternoon on. Shouldn't they be finalizing their latest bill to eliminate incest and rape as exclusions to the new bill that states life begins at fertilization(actual bill by the way and will be signed by Gov next week)?
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***UPDATE***
They are now reading audio from fitz's The Chamber video...on the statehouse floor....
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the eff? :facepalm:
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:lol:
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***UPDATE***
They are now reading audio from fitz's The Chamber video...on the statehouse floor....
Furthering the legend.
I bet he gets wasted with co-eds AND state senators.
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Great for him, but I hate it when they do stupid crap like this. I mean, we have better things for them to be spending the afternoon on. Shouldn't they be finalizing their latest bill to eliminate incest and rape as exclusions to the new bill that states life begins at fertilization(actual bill by the way and will be signed by Gov next week)?
BSLC made some comment to the effect of "2 days left in session, no budget, no tax plan, but we honored Klein, further restricted abortions and allowed the governor to select judges...So we got that going for us"
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Great for him, but I hate it when they do stupid crap like this. I mean, we have better things for them to be spending the afternoon on. Shouldn't they be finalizing their latest bill to eliminate incest and rape as exclusions to the new bill that states life begins at fertilization(actual bill by the way and will be signed by Gov next week)?
BSLC made some comment to the effect of "2 days left in session, no budget, no tax plan, but we honored Klein, further restricted abortions and allowed the governor to select judges...So we got that going for us"
The Chamber don't care!
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YouTube must be on a 2 year delay to people who tuck their shirts in.
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YouTube must be on a 2 year delay to people who tuck their shirts in.
It's not that. It's just that they are just now catching up since they are always so busy hashing out important stuff.
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YouTube must be on a 2 year delay to people who tuck their shirts in.
hard to watch a video on this man
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Not sure if luked but Klein will make an attempt at badassery in Canada
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/23/collin-klein-heads-to-canada/
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Looks like Donald Faison.
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TO
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EM
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http://themercury.com/articles/collin-klein-released-by-cfl-team
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http://themercury.com/articles/collin-klein-released-by-cfl-team
:cry: Klein deserves good things, because ya know he's good people
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I can't believe I used to tell people CK was better than Tim Tebow. :D (#gocats still)
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I can't believe I used to tell people CK was better than Tim Tebow. :D (#gocats still)
He is. :D
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CK was definitely better than Tebow. And CK had more heart than Tebow.
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I want him to be a stud boss etc. in the CFL tho :Crybaby:
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I want him to do things that make K-State better.
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I want him to do things that make K-State better.
Have a good Christian brood of 7 or 8 kids who all grow to be studs for FHCSS to ram into opposing defenses until sketti brained?
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I want him to do things that make K-State better.
Have a good Christian brood of 7 or 8 kids who all grow to be studs for FHCSS to ram into opposing defenses until sketti brained?
that and come back and coach his ksu wild wild cats to a national 'ship
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I want him to do things that make K-State better.
Have a good Christian brood of 7 or 8 kids who all grow to be studs for FHCSS to ram into opposing defenses until sketti brained?
that and come back and coach his ksu wild wild cats to a national 'ship
Would take.
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He should get into coaching. He'd do well and rise up the ranks fast. Funny that people say that Snyder somehow used this kid up by running him too much. The reality is he took a marginally talented kid with great heart and work ethic and turned him into a heisman trophey finalist by playing to his strengths.
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He should get into coaching. He'd do well and rise up the ranks fast. Funny that people say that Snyder somehow used this kid up by running him too much. The reality is he took a marginally talented kid with great heart and work ethic and turned him into a heisman trophey finalist by playing to his strengths.
Those two things aren't mutually exclusive fwiw
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CK was definitely better than Tebow. And CK had more heart than Tebow.
and CK was still super Christian without having to circumcise kids (and talk about it on TV)
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CK was definitely better than Tebow. And CK had more heart than Tebow.
and CK was still super Christian without having to circumcise kids (and talk about it on TV)
ya, CK's dad dosen't have an evangelical ministry to promote
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http://www.kansas.com/2014/06/19/3516084/k-states-carson-coffman-finds.html
I mean seriously, Coffman is having more success than Klein.... :facepalm:
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@GoPowercat: Collin Klein has officially returned! Our own @DScottFritchen has confirmed that the Heisman finalist will be a part of LHC Bill Snyder's staff.
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:Woohoo:
I don't care how tuckish it is to love Collin Klein, I love him so much. Glad he's returned home.
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I guess his brains aren't too skettied to scheme! :ksu:
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very cool
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I'm not sure there's enough time left in Snyder's coaching career to get CK to be HC ready, but if I had to pick one person who most has the potential to carry out the plan that's currently in place after Coach retires, it's Optimus Klein.
Love this move.
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Nice to see #1cats come back to help keep the Waters calm.
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I just did a manpow5 gif after seeing this, and I would question the EMAW status of anyone that doesn't believe this is a great thing.
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Could be a great recruiter and is very smart. I like it.
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turner gill :frown:
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turner gill :frown:
try steve spurrior bro
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turner gill :frown:
buffalo tho
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I see no reason why he is any better or worse than any other assistant with zero experience we could have hired.
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assistant bloody elbow and brain damage coach
(love collin, i feel great about this)
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I see no reason why he is any better or worse than any other assistant with zero experience we could have hired.
:facepalm:
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assistant hard working, well speaking, playbook knowledge, right way coach
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@GoPowercat: Collin Klein has officially returned! Our own @DScottFritchen has confirmed that the Heisman finalist will be a part of LHC LHC Bill Snyder's staff.
Probably like the greatest day every going on right now in D. Scott's world!
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@GoPowercat: Collin Klein has officially returned! Our own @DScottFritchen has confirmed that the Heisman finalist will be a part of LHC LHC Bill Snyder's staff.
Probably like the greatest day every going on right now in D. Scott's world!
bean dip and a nice roast beef tonight to finish er off
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I just did a manpow5 gif after seeing this, and I would question the EMAW status of anyone that doesn't believe this is a great thing.
:thumbs:
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I see no reason why he is any better or worse than any other assistant with zero experience we could have hired.
:lol:
pretty stupid post here
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I see no reason why he is any better or worse than any other assistant with zero experience we could have hired.
:lol:
pretty stupid post here
Why?
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I see no reason why he is any better or worse than any other assistant with zero experience we could have hired.
:lol:
pretty stupid post here
Why?
Probably because he knows everything about Snyder's system/program.
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I see no reason why he is any better or worse than any other assistant with zero experience we could have hired.
:lol:
pretty stupid post here
Why?
really? a full knowledge of the offense and a familiarity with our opponents, experience playing against them holds no value to you?
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I see no reason why he is any better or worse than any other assistant with zero experience we could have hired.
:lol:
pretty stupid post here
Why?
Probably because he knows everything about Snyder's system/program.
Is Jonathon Beasley the most senior former Snyder player we've had as an assistant?
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I see no reason why he is any better or worse than any other assistant with zero experience we could have hired.
:lol:
pretty stupid post here
Why?
really? a full knowledge of the offense and a familiarity with our opponents, experience playing against them holds no value to you?
Would you hire Daniel Sams in three years?
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I see no reason why he is any better or worse than any other assistant with zero experience we could have hired.
:lol:
pretty stupid post here
Why?
really? a full knowledge of the offense and a familiarity with our opponents, experience playing against them holds no value to you?
Would you hire Daniel Sams in three years?
that's a dumb question
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many really Krusty in here
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I see no reason why he is any better or worse than any other assistant with zero experience we could have hired.
:lol:
pretty stupid post here
Why?
Probably because he knows everything about Snyder's system/program.
Is Jonathon Beasley the most senior former Snyder player we've had as an assistant?
what does this even mean?
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I see no reason why he is any better or worse than any other assistant with zero experience we could have hired.
:lol:
pretty stupid post here
Why?
really? a full knowledge of the offense and a familiarity with our opponents, experience playing against them holds no value to you?
Would you hire Daniel Sams in three years?
is that the same thing? but to answer your question yes, if he was pursuing a career in coaching and was the best candidate for the job.
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I see no reason why he is any better or worse than any other assistant with zero experience we could have hired.
:lol:
pretty stupid post here
Why?
Probably because he knows everything about Snyder's system/program.
Is Jonathon Beasley the most senior former Snyder player we've had as an assistant?
what does this even mean?
Have we had a former Snyder player become a coordinator under Snyder?
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Capital K on Krusty. Maybe even all caps. KRUSTY.
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i would hire daniel sams right now
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I see no reason why he is any better or worse than any other assistant with zero experience we could have hired.
:lol:
pretty stupid post here
Why?
Probably because he knows everything about Snyder's system/program.
Is Jonathon Beasley the most senior former Snyder player we've had as an assistant?
I don't know the definition of "most senior" but Blake Seiler was hired as a GA and now he's the DE coach.
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Pretty sure Sean played under Bill
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Joe Bob also made the ascension to DE coach. Obviously being a former player is invaluable.
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Pretty sure Sean played under Bill
Bill did say no one knows the program better than him (or something similar). :users:
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I see no reason why he is any better or worse than any other assistant with zero experience we could have hired.
:lol:
pretty stupid post here
Why?
Probably because he knows everything about Snyder's system/program.
Is Jonathon Beasley the most senior former Snyder player we've had as an assistant?
what does this even mean?
Have we had a former Snyder player become a coordinator under Snyder?
doubt it, why?
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quality gE'ing here by michigancat
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In all seriousness (not GE'ing), it would be better for all parties for Colin to be a GA at another school and us to hire someone from a different background.
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In all seriousness (not GE'ing), it would be better for all parties for Colin to be a GA at another school and us to hire someone from a different background.
Why would a GA from a different school/background be more valuable to the program than one who already knows our own system and has been around the program for a number of years now? We aren't talking about him as a coordinator or something he is unqualified for at this time.
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In all seriousness (not GE'ing), it would be better for all parties for Colin to be a GA at another school and us to hire someone from a different background.
please expand on this if you feel like it. i am curious.
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In all seriousness (not GE'ing), it would be better for all parties for Colin to be a GA at another school and us to hire someone from a different background.
please expand on this if you feel like it. i am curious.
fresh ideas for us, learning new things for Collin. Also if the outsider sucks, we can Frost him without feeling bad about it. If Collin sucks...
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I'd say if he really wants to get into coaching let him GA at KSU. Then encourage him to go out and get an assistant job somewhere else before coming back. JMHO.
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In all seriousness (not GE'ing), it would be better for all parties for Colin to be a GA at another school and us to hire someone from a different background.
please expand on this if you feel like it. i am curious.
fresh ideas for us, learning new things for Collin. Also if the outsider sucks, we can Frost him without feeling bad about it. If Collin sucks...
fair enough. we're just hiring him as a GA/QC, and ex players get Frosted more than you think, there's quite a few that want to come back in such a position but aren't given the opportunity.
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fair enough. we're just hiring him as a GA/QC, and ex players get Frosted more than you think, there's quite a few that want to come back in such a position but aren't given the opportunity.
yeah it's almost like a crapshoot huh
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Future RBs coach?
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fair enough. we're just hiring him as a GA/QC, and ex players get Frosted more than you think, there's quite a few that want to come back in such a position but aren't given the opportunity.
yeah it's almost like a crapshoot huh
Guy on GPC noted that Klein is the only player in Snyder's career who was allowed to sit down with the coaches and co-author the offensive game plan week to week. Also, mentioned how Snyder thought Klein was more playbook knowledgeable than some of our coaches. Not saying he will automatically be a great coach -there are plenty more components to teaching than knowledge of the subject - but he is also nowhere near your run of the mill former player/GA.
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if i were him i would get in with his FIL instead of bill. kind of fun to have him back around though.
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Our GAs are often former players. The only reason this is getting press is because it's Klein. If they'd hired Klein as a position coach then I could see some concern, but as GA this isn't really a big deal at all.
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fair enough. we're just hiring him as a GA/QC, and ex players get Frosted more than you think, there's quite a few that want to come back in such a position but aren't given the opportunity.
yeah it's almost like a crapshoot huh
Guy on GPC noted that Klein is the only player in Snyder's career who was allowed to sit down with the coaches and co-author the offensive game plan week to week. Also, mentioned how Snyder thought Klein was more playbook knowledgeable than some of our coaches. Not saying he will automatically be a great coach -there are plenty more components to teaching than knowledge of the subject - but he is also nowhere near your run of the mill former player/GA.
pfffffft
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Our very own Heupel/Applewhite/Kingsbury :crossfingers:
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Our very own Heupel/Applewhite/Kingsbury :crossfingers:
CK7 will never be as dreamy as #HollyWoodSwag......but if he can somehow turn into an amazing coach........he would never leave the fighting wild wildcats of Kansas State.
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Mr. M-Cat, have you been seeing what's happening to our recruiting in these last couple of years. Could it be from the new LHCBS ex-players coming to coach and recruit for ole Bill.
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Word on the street is that Saban really wanted him
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I think collin could be a good coach and i'm glad we gave him a job
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I for one, am happy that Ole Bill made the correct decision. :billdance:
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I'm siding with kRusty on this one (but also pumped cause ck is a complete badass)
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In all seriousness (not GE'ing), it would be better for all parties for Colin to be a GA at another school and us to hire someone from a different background.
please expand on this if you feel like it. i am curious.
fresh ideas for us, learning new things for Collin. Also if the outsider sucks, we can Frost him without feeling bad about it. If Collin sucks...
Rusty is dead wrong.
Our current system is based on two key principles. First, Blind obedience to Snyder's way, and Second, zero questioning of the first principle.
There is not one other human being on earth more qualified to be a GA or coach at KSU than CK. Not one.
A better idea is to let CK coach under Snyder for the next 10 years (puts Snyder at the Bowden/Joe Pa retirement age), and let CK take over at 33 (his "Jesus" year).
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Word on the street is that Saban really wanted him
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-Bz80e6kWy-g%2FUSUbvD8_B-I%2FAAAAAAAAKw8%2Fhau1V82mSFQ%2Fs1600%2Fthe-one.gif&hash=2d058e3c294ae8fbbb144f1211f5b7dbc818447d)
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I'm siding with kRusty on this one (but also pumped cause ck is a complete badass)
Capital K in this thread, the KRUSTIEST thread of all time
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Guys. Here's my bottom line. How can CK7 joining the staff be anything but a good thing?
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This is going to be quite the mindfuck for you simpletons but I never said hiring Klein was a bad thing
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This is going to be quite the mindfuck for you simpletons but I never said hiring Klein was a bad thing
exactly you dumbasses, leave it alone, get on with it, enjoy the rough ridin' fact that we have optimus klein back. everyone knows this is a good thing and I doubt michcat is going to be one to say it is bad, you rough ridin' squaks.
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Rusty, I agree with you for most positions, but I think QB is different. He'd have to have a much better grasp on the O than say, a defensive lineman would have on our D schemes, or a WR would have on our O, etc.
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:Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot:
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This is zero tacos on the 0-5 taco joke scale, because this is not funny but is completely awesome.
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This is LHC Bill Snyder's team. All you need are loyal soldiers.
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I hope he keeps all the "God hates pre-marital boning" stuff to himself.
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I hope he keeps all the "God hates pre-marital boning" stuff to himself.
what if he's asked to chaperon recruits? omg.
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I hope he keeps all the "God hates pre-marital boning" stuff to himself.
what if he's asked to chaperon recruits? omg.
This is where Joe Gordon came in handy
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Klein would be great to have along on recruiting trips. He was a Heisman finalist just two years ago.
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Our very own Heupel/Applewhite/Kingsbury :crossfingers:
CK7 will never be as dreamy as #HollyWoodSwag......but if he can somehow turn into an amazing coach........he would never leave the fighting wild wildcats of Kansas State.
Sure he could be. Someone post that Tech booster's how to list.... Few name changes and we have a plan!
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Klein would be great to have along on recruiting trips. He was a Heisman finalist just two years ago.
Yep, also he is big enough to Weekend At Burnie's Bill as needed in living rooms and sidelines across America.
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I think we should make all of our good players who show any interest in coaching whatsoever graduate assistants and then scatter them across the college football landscape like seeds in the wind. Then when harvest time comes, odds are one of them will be a quality coach who just can't wait to get back to MHK.
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I think we should make all of our good players who show any interest in coaching whatsoever graduate assistants and then scatter them across the college football landscape like seeds in the wind. Then when harvest time comes, odds are one of them will be a quality coach who just can't wait to get back to MHK.
Yep, and the ones who look to be bad at it we can use as plants to eff up the other programs they are in.
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I think we should make all of our good players who show any interest in coaching whatsoever graduate assistants and then scatter them across the college football landscape like seeds in the wind. Then when harvest time comes, odds are one of them will be a quality coach who just can't wait to get back to MHK.
Yep, and the ones who look to be bad at it we can use as plants to eff up the other programs they are in.
kyle williams, usc
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I wanna know where all the Klein/Spani babies are. IT'S BEEN MORE THAN NINE MONTHS! :impatient:
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I think we should make all of our good players who show any interest in coaching whatsoever graduate assistants and then scatter them across the college football landscape like seeds in the wind. Then when harvest time comes, odds are one of them will be a quality coach who just can't wait to get back to MHK.
Yep, and the ones who look to be bad at it we can use as plants to eff up the other programs they are in.
I think this plan is in effect; look at TTU's DC. :whistle1:
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I think we should make all of our good players who show any interest in coaching whatsoever graduate assistants and then scatter them across the college football landscape like seeds in the wind. Then when harvest time comes, odds are one of them will be a quality coach who just can't wait to get back to MHK.
Yep, and the ones who look to be bad at it we can use as plants to eff up the other programs they are in.
I think this plan is in effect; look at TTU's DC. :whistle1:
Wanted to be back here so bad that he agreed to coach for Ron Prince.
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I think we should make all of our good players who show any interest in coaching whatsoever graduate assistants and then scatter them across the college football landscape like seeds in the wind. Then when harvest time comes, odds are one of them will be a quality coach who just can't wait to get back to MHK.
Yep, and the ones who look to be bad at it we can use as plants to eff up the other programs they are in.
I think this plan is in effect; look at TTU's DC. :whistle1:
Wanted to be back here so bad that he agreed to coach for Ron Prince.
I think that ruined him.
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I think we should make all of our good players who show any interest in coaching whatsoever graduate assistants and then scatter them across the college football landscape like seeds in the wind. Then when harvest time comes, odds are one of them will be a quality coach who just can't wait to get back to MHK.
Yep, and the ones who look to be bad at it we can use as plants to eff up the other programs they are in.
I think this plan is in effect; look at TTU's DC. :whistle1:
Wanted to be back here so bad that he agreed to coach for Ron Prince.
I think that ruined him.
Just wasted his time. Maybe he'll be our Kim Anderson.
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I think we should make all of our good players who show any interest in coaching whatsoever graduate assistants and then scatter them across the college football landscape like seeds in the wind. Then when harvest time comes, odds are one of them will be a quality coach who just can't wait to get back to MHK.
Yep, and the ones who look to be bad at it we can use as plants to eff up the other programs they are in.
I think this plan is in effect; look at TTU's DC. :whistle1:
Wanted to be back here so bad that he agreed to coach for Ron Prince.
I think that ruined him.
Just wasted his time. Maybe he'll be our Kim Anderson.
Kim Anderson?
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DALLAS – Former Kansas State quarterback Collin Klein is an official member of the Wildcats’ coaching staff.
He will work for LHC Bill Snyder under the title of assistant director of recruiting/defensive quality control, according to K-State’s media guide, which was released Monday at Big 12 media days.
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/2014/07/21/3561713/kansas-state-clarifies-collin.html#storylink=cpy
:thumbsup:
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we are going to get so many rough ridin' jesus freak kids now, it's going to be awesome
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we are going to get so many rough ridin' jesus freak kids now, it's going to be awesome
We're so blessed! :)
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we are going to get so many rough ridin' jesus freak kids now, it's going to be awesome
We are going to have the market cornered on home school studs
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Other teams: "Bill will run you to death if you go play QB there."
CK: "No he won't!"
BOOM!
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we are going to get so many rough ridin' jesus freak kids now, it's going to be awesome
your definition of awesome and mine must be completely different, but if we win, it's all "don't care, go cats".
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we are going to get so many rough ridin' jesus freak kids now, it's going to be awesome
your definition of awesome and mine must be completely different, but if we win, it's all "don't care, go cats".
well i figure we'd only recruit the good ones.
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Other teams: "Bill will run you to death if you go play QB there."
CK: "No he won't!"
BOOM!
As long as he doesn't drool or slur words, this should work.
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we are going to get so many rough ridin' jesus freak kids now, it's going to be awesome
your definition of awesome and mine must be completely different, but if we win, it's all "don't care, go cats".
well i figure we'd only recruit the good ones.
we are going to be Iowa circa 1980's under frye and it's going to be rough ridin' awesome
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Is Tate the offensive quality control?
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There's no way Collin doesn't include "the cherry on top of this fiery, fudge dragon sundae is" in his recruiting spiel. :gocho:
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On recruiting trips, do you think Collin waits for the mother of the household to open the door, or just runs right through it Kool-Aid man style with an offer letter in hand?
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On recruiting trips, do you think Collin waits for the mother of the household to open the door, or just runs right through it Kool-Aid man style with an offer letter in hand?
"Hey, Klein-aid!"
"OH, YEAAHH!"
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On recruiting trips, do you think Collin waits for the mother of the household to open the door, or just runs right through it Kool-Aid man style with an offer letter in hand?
"Hey, Klein-aid!"
"OH, YEAAHH!"
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=32557.0
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On recruiting trips, do you think Collin waits for the mother of the household to open the door, or just runs right through it Kool-Aid man style with an offer letter in hand?
"Hey, Klein-aid!"
"OH, YEAAHH!"
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=32557.0
Are you volunteering as my mentor or just dropping me off at the curb?
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On recruiting trips, do you think Collin waits for the mother of the household to open the door, or just runs right through it Kool-Aid man style with an offer letter in hand?
"Hey, Klein-aid!"
"OH, YEAAHH!"
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=32557.0
Are you volunteering as my mentor or just dropping me off at the curb?
you pick
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On recruiting trips, do you think Collin waits for the mother of the household to open the door, or just runs right through it Kool-Aid man style with an offer letter in hand?
"Hey, Klein-aid!"
"OH, YEAAHH!"
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=32557.0
Are you volunteering as my mentor or just dropping me off at the curb?
you pick
In MC's defense, my post was pretty bad and only set him up for that stinker. Worst part, I knew it was bad when I posted it. :frown:
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What if he takes advantage of having sole control of play calling in the bowl game and is a total badass offensive coordinator?
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It would give us a taste of what his OC coaching skills rank in KSU eyes.
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When he came in to bill’s staff it was thought that he had the smarts/attention to detail/football iq to become a play caller.
The qb play makes be question that but :dunno:
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When he came in to bill’s staff it was thought that he had the smarts/attention to detail/football iq to become a play caller.
The qb play makes be question that but :dunno:
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What does one have to do with the other?
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When he came in to bill’s staff it was thought that he had the smarts/attention to detail/football iq to become a play caller.
The qb play makes be question that but :dunno:
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What does one have to do with the other?
Because I don't think he's a very good qb coach. If he's not a good position coach it makes me question his ability to teach/communicate well
If you are coordinating an offense, you should also be a good communicator/teacher.
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I think position coach, head coach, and coordinator all require very different skill sets and don't necessarily correlate to each other
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The first few pages of this thread are incredible. I think I just found the birthplace of The Chamber.
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I think position coach, head coach, and coordinator all require very different skill sets and don't necessarily correlate to each other
hmm, i'll have to think about this take a bit more. Have there been other position coaches that had shitty units get promoted to coordinator? I mean, it has probably happened, but if the unit you coach is shitty, why would someone trust you to run a unit that includes more people? :dunno:
****as I reread this, I realize I said unit a lot. I'm leaving all of it.
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I think position coach, head coach, and coordinator all require very different skill sets and don't necessarily correlate to each other
hmm, i'll have to think about this take a bit more. Have there been other position coaches that had shitty units get promoted to coordinator? I mean, it has probably happened, but if the unit you coach is shitty, why would someone trust you to run a unit that includes more people? :dunno:
****as I reread this, I realize I said unit a lot. I'm leaving all of it.
Probably not shitty position coach to elite coordinator but you could go from average position coach to elite coordinator. Position coaches are probably more reliant on recruiting and game plans that could be largely out of their hands.
Also I think quantifiably evaluating position coaches like you can with coordinators is a challenge and makes it difficult to determine how effective a position coach really is at their job.
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The first few pages of this thread are incredible. I think I just found the birthplace of The Chamber.
Really shows why fatty was the GOAT of message boarding
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I think more than anything having an OC that can recruit and run a system that is attractive to play in is the most important part in this search. Not sure Klein has either of those attributes.
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The first few pages of this thread are incredible. I think I just found the birthplace of The Chamber.
Really shows why fatty was the GOAT of message boarding
There will never be another.
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KSU offense will score at least 35 ppg this year. Will it be enough?
Checks notes; 32 ppg. Almost.
:fatty:
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the first seven pages of this thread are perfect bbs'n. what a time to be alive
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:lol:
this thread needs to be retitled
fff,
you used to be good at this
:party:
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I think position coach, head coach, and coordinator all require very different skill sets and don't necessarily correlate to each other
hmm, i'll have to think about this take a bit more. Have there been other position coaches that had shitty units get promoted to coordinator? I mean, it has probably happened, but if the unit you coach is shitty, why would someone trust you to run a unit that includes more people? :dunno:
****as I reread this, I realize I said unit a lot. I'm leaving all of it.
Probably not shitty position coach to elite coordinator but you could go from average position coach to elite coordinator. Position coaches are probably more reliant on recruiting and game plans that could be largely out of their hands.
Also I think quantifiably evaluating position coaches like you can with coordinators is a challenge and makes it difficult to determine how effective a position coach really is at their job.
That makes sense. I'm also of the opinion that any position coach needs to be a very good recruiter. If you can't recruit good QBs its going to be difficult to be a good QB coach.
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Klieboy recruited Rubley. Klieboy is the reason Howard committed. Not sure who recruited Lewis.
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badass offensive coordinator
:love:
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I know LSU lost basically their entire back 7 but this has been the most dynamic I think the offense has looked all year. Lots of nice little wrinkles like WR screen and shovel pass to Sinnott.
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I know LSU lost basically their entire back 7 but this has been the most dynamic I think the offense has looked all year. Lots of nice little wrinkles like WR screen and shovel pass to Sinnott.
Yeah LSU was kicking our asses on the pass rush and the WR screen helped
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Pretty fun offense.
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I know LSU lost basically their entire back 7 but this has been the most dynamic I think the offense has looked all year. Lots of nice little wrinkles like WR screen and shovel pass to Sinnott.
It has made for enjoyable viewing!
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I know LSU lost basically their entire back 7 but this has been the most dynamic I think the offense has looked all year. Lots of nice little wrinkles like WR screen and shovel pass to Sinnott.
Loved the shovel pass. Reminded me of that play the Chiefs run to Kelce a bunch.
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KEEP KLEIN
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How many Heismans will Martinez win with OC Klein?
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How many Heismans will Martinez win with OC Klein?
Unless he's got some eligibility somewhere 1
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I assume we were keeping Klein anyways by waiting this long to fill the position, but he did well yesterday.
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My only reservation with Klein is that if he's not good, then he will be very hard to fire. But then, no head coach should be able to replace 2 offensive coordinators before getting fired himself, anyway.
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It's his to lose.
That was an incredibly well called game. Getting the call in and out of the huddle with 20+ seconds on the clock. Going with pace after a first down multiple times. Attacking on 3rd and longs, moving pocket, multiple formations, clearly adjusting the run game and some creativity/wrinkles (shovel/malik screen). LOTS of guys getting touches in space.
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It's his to lose.
That was an incredibly well called game. Getting the call in and out of the huddle with 20+ seconds on the clock. Going with pace after a first down multiple times. Attacking on 3rd and longs, moving pocket, multiple formations, clearly adjusting the run game and some creativity/wrinkles (shovel/malik screen). LOTS of guys getting touches in space.
Yeah, we looked awesome. It was against backups, but we don't ever look that good against FCS competition, and LSU's backups have to be at least that good.
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It's his to lose.
That was an incredibly well called game. Getting the call in and out of the huddle with 20+ seconds on the clock. Going with pace after a first down multiple times. Attacking on 3rd and longs, moving pocket, multiple formations, clearly adjusting the run game and some creativity/wrinkles (shovel/malik screen). LOTS of guys getting touches in space.
I'm very low FBIQ but it seemed like they did some good things to adjust to LSUs blitzes. Agree that it was fun to see so many guys involved. Seems like we saw a lot of that during Klieman's first season.
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ran some really creative plays, too. I remember it was like 3rd and 7ish (i believe) from around the 30 and Sky rolled right ended up scrambling to pick up the first down but he had Dineen wide open for a touchdown. Whether or not Dineen would have caught it who knows but he didn't have anyone close to him, not sure if Sky just didn't see him or what, but it was kind of fun to see a play where we had multiple successful options. Reminded me of 2012 several times CK just ran it for a first down but could have easily hit Harper or TT
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A lot of people down playing the talent on this LSU team. I get that its not the same team they started the year with all be it a team that did go 6-6 regular season. There is probably more talent for the 40 or so scholarship players on their roster than a decade worth of K-State recruits. They still had 7 defensive starters that were 4/5 star recruits.
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Agree on the talent issue. The only caveat is that trust and communication is arguably more important for a defense than even talent, and these guys obviously wouldn’t have a ton of that. Still, as others noted there was a lot to like that had nothing to do with how many points we scored.
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Was fun. One thing I’d say is that LSU didn’t have anything to gameplan on either. Like a rookie pitcher having early season success and then sucking.
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I think its safe to say he is a complete badass
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he also had a month to plan for this game
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he also had a month to plan for this game
Cool. Now he'll have a whole offseason to prepare.
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he also had a month to plan for this game
How many bowl games have we looked like complete crap with a month to prepare? Play calling was very good. Allowed playmakers to make plays. Made offensive adjustments on the fly. was 10/14 on 3rd and 4th down. Not saying he's a homerun hire, but definitely better than Mess.
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In-game adjustments were key to my glee.
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My only reservation with Klein is that if he's not good, then he will be very hard to fire. But then, no head coach should be able to replace 2 offensive coordinators before getting fired himself, anyway.
Insert clay davis gif here. If he fired Mess, Klein will be easy a.f. for Klieman to fire. He's now fired Sean Snyder and his supposed best friend, the guy is a sniper who DGAF.
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What if Klein is a complete stud O-Coordinator/Coach in waiting for the next 5-7 years then takes over for Klieman and turns into what Nebraska hoped Scott Frost would be.
:surprised: :runaway: :love: :love:
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What if Klein is a complete stud O-Coordinator/Coach in waiting for the next 5-7 years then takes over for Klieman and turns into what Nebraska hoped Scott Frost would be.
:surprised: :runaway: :love: :love:
And Shane for bball.
:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:
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I know LSU lost basically their entire back 7 but this has been the most dynamic I think the offense has looked all year. Lots of nice little wrinkles like WR screen and shovel pass to Sinnott.
Yeah LSU was kicking our asses on the pass rush and the WR screen helped
Watching Duffie waddle out there and do just enough to give Knowles(?) the space to gain some yards was very :lol: :love:.
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My only reservation with Klein is that if he's not good, then he will be very hard to fire. But then, no head coach should be able to replace 2 offensive coordinators before getting fired himself, anyway.
Insert clay davis gif here. If he fired Mess, Klein will be easy a.f. for Klieman to fire. He's now fired Sean Snyder and his supposed best friend, the guy is a sniper who DGAF.
Firing Sean Snyder was a mistake, but agree he's not like Snyder and keeps underperforming coaching assistances.
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I think firing Sean was pretty much 100% about severing all Snyders from the coaching staff. Unless Sean farted near Klieman's open mouth or something.
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Last year he was rated the number 1 special teams coach at USC.
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Is Collin getting enough to eat these days?
https://twitter.com/MillikanHSFB/status/1524120985258979328?s=20&t=AIzb18Sy895ShjGgW2rsFQ
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Is Collin getting enough to eat these days?
[tweet]1524120985258979328[/tweet]?s=20&t=AIzb18Sy895ShjGgW2rsFQ
He probably should’ve ate Shalin Spani’s cooking before they were married. Wink wink, if you know what I mean.
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Quit body shaming, weirdos.
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Quit body shaming, weirdos.
Also, the other dude is fat.
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If our guy wants to eat one taco bell meal a day who cares?
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:buh-bye:
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Other dude also has his hand on CK's butt
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And he is pointing to coach Klein’s wiener :nono:
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Other dude also has his hand on CK's butt
Damn right he is!
Opportunities such as that do not come very often in life.
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And he is pointing to coach Klein’s wiener :nono:
We talkin' dongs, again?!
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That 2012 season.. cat's should really do that again
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That 2012 season.. cat's should really do that again
the nerves I had before the WVU game only to watch us completely obliterate them like they were a d2 school is a feeling I'm not sure I'll experience again
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That 2012 season.. cat's should really do that again
the nerves I had before the WVU game only to watch us completely obliterate them like they were a d2 school is a feeling I'm not sure I'll experience again
They were a top 10 team to start the season and we just depantzed them at their place. It was an amazing feeling watching that game.
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That 2012 season.. cat's should really do that again
the nerves I had before the WVU game only to watch us completely obliterate them like they were a d2 school is a feeling I'm not sure I'll experience again
They were a top 10 team to start the season and we just depantzed them at their place. It was an amazing feeling watching that game.
We all felt like gods that night
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That 2012 season.. cat's should really do that again
the nerves I had before the WVU game only to watch us completely obliterate them like they were a d2 school is a feeling I'm not sure I'll experience again
They were a top 10 team to start the season and we just depantzed them at their place. It was an amazing feeling watching that game.
We all felt like gods that night
We were gods that night, if only for that night and a few amazing weeks afterwards.
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Not sorry if Luk'd. This vid gave me goosebumps and I don't care who knows it:
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1527317885554634753?s=20&t=6hUdrhCjDnqjGlBmHo3q4A
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That's pretty cool.
Also want to see more interactions between Snyder and Kli as that stuff fascinates me.
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That's pretty cool.
Also want to see more interactions between Snyder and Kli as that stuff fascinates me.
same
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When Klieman goes to Nebraska will Klein get the HC job?
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Have to see how well he does his job at OC first.
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Yes, yes he is.
https://twitter.com/DScottFritchen/status/1529780787448623111?s=20&t=dVn54Sl1r1r7GNik2codhg
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Potentially, K-State could have Martinez and Vaughn in the same backfield, which carries along with it possibilities for a backfield duo we haven't seen since Ell Roberson and Darren Sproles.
D Scott is a throwback to the 1920s old-school sports journalist, he reminds me of a young Studs Terkel.
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I like to think that he’s actually is working for free and just given a chair in the ad office and a plug in for his computer to write this crap.
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I have to keep my optimism in check, but the pieces are there for Klein to be very successful next year.
Quarterback :gocho:
running back :gocho:
offensive line :gocho:
Coner Riley :gocho:
wide receiver :dunno:
Tight ends :dunno:
I think back to how well Snyder’s early offenses would do with 3 star & walkon talent at wide receiver.
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I just want to mention that it gives me chills to see a thread started by fatty fat fat at the top of the board. What a loss to wildcat nation. Never forget his impact
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Yes, yes he is.
https://twitter.com/DScottFritchen/status/1529780787448623111?s=20&t=dVn54Sl1r1r7GNik2codhg
So, when does filming wrap on the sequel to Dallas Buyer's Club?
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Why don't you bend over and I'll show ya.
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lol. Hopefully the Rutgers message boards enjoy Spracne’s sophisticated sense of humor & charm when they become arch not your rivals in the BIG
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I finally had to mute Klein on Twitter because I kept getting pushed tweets from people like Dan Bongino, Lauren Bobbert & OANN corespondents because they were followed by CK.
His following list is full of far-right trash & every gun manufacturer under the sun. For awhile he was following that anti-Covid doctor that said vaccines had alien DNA and warned of demon blood.
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I finally had to mute Klein on Twitter because I kept getting pushed tweets from people like Dan Bongino, Lauren Bobbert & OANN corespondents because they were followed by CK.
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/WxDZ77xhPXf3i/giphy.gif)
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It’s that type of bootstrapping that made him what he was, @hamburgler. We’re sorry for your (Twitter) loss.
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I finally had to mute Klein on Twitter because I kept getting pushed tweets from people like Dan Bongino, Lauren Bobbert & OANN corespondents because they were followed by CK.
His following list is full of far-right trash & every gun manufacturer under the sun. For awhile he was following that anti-Covid doctor that said vaccines had alien DNA and warned of demon blood.
I know I shouldn't be surprised but goddammit
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Lol at kstatefb ever trying to blame any football failures on covid.
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Awesome. Politics Jerk
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Don't pit this up, or I'll have to split this off and that's work (I'm a lazy mod).
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Awesome. Politics Jerk
Never go to the pit, bud. They’ll ruin sports for you.
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Awesome. Politics Jerk
Never go to the pit, bud. They’ll ruin sports for you.
HugeCat is right. I apologize.
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Awesome. Politics Jerk
Never go to the pit, bud. They’ll ruin sports for you.
HugeCat is right. I apologize.
Cheers emoji
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what if collein klein is a complete dumbass?
(Couldn't resist. Come on, it's funny!)
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Fair
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gE continues to sculpt the narrative:
https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/1548145311251476480?s=21&t=MGhD0VnBMm3BOSpgAT-9kA
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gE continues to sculpt the narrative:
https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/1548145311251476480?s=21&t=MGhD0VnBMm3BOSpgAT-9kA
Awwwww
Gave me a teary smile
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I finally had to mute Klein on Twitter because I kept getting pushed tweets from people like Dan Bongino, Lauren Bobbert & OANN corespondents because they were followed by CK.
His following list is full of far-right trash & every gun manufacturer under the sun. For awhile he was following that anti-Covid doctor that said vaccines had alien DNA and warned of demon blood.
I know I shouldn't be surprised but goddammit
too busy to really give a crap i hope
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https://twitter.com/DScottFritchen/status/1559496372050608128?s=20&t=NzjK6z6HADDDzXJ9ZQXZxg
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https://youtu.be/Civykjv7V9c (https://youtu.be/Civykjv7V9c)
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https://youtu.be/Civykjv7V9c (https://youtu.be/Civykjv7V9c)
Just watched this, the dude was built for this.
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😬😬😬
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So lets say that we have some good to great seasons in the next 5 years, Klieman either takes another job or retires and CK7 is our new head coach.
He is never leaving us right? He is tried and true EMAW to the bone. Heisman finalist at EMAWu and married a EMAWu bball player who happens to be the daughter of a former great EMAWu Football player.
Even if Michigan State or some other BIG/SEC school offered to double his salary I still think he would stay here and keep riding 4wheelers in his backyard while kicking ass.
And who do we have to thank for this gift? None other than Ronald Prince for recruiting CK7 to EMAWu as a WR.
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Perry sure Prince recruited him as QB, but Synder moved him to WR. He played QB in Colo HS FB.
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OCCK brings out his inner Larry the cable Guy, “Git Er Done”
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1566265394406604800?s=20&t=uZ9u09iWcL4u4JpVNxZIOw
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CK7 is in love with early 2000's haircuts. He moved on from the Ceaser cut he was wearing in college and is now rocking the ski slope.
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Pound the stone guy looks like he is going to crap himself
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It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Not having a Skylar Thompson might have an impact
https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1566436156698394625?s=20&t=evj-aei7zK4LULNTPN5y5A
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Pound the stone guy looks like he is going to crap himself
Lmao
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I just hope last night was us truly keeping it conservative vs some others issues. It just seemed like offensively we were kinda meh.
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I think they'll open things up next week. I do wish there would have been more camera angles yesterday so we could see what was happening down field, but the announcers kept mentioning the good coverage.
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CK7 is in love with early 2000's haircuts. He moved on from the Ceaser cut he was wearing in college and is now rocking the ski slope.
lol. I think that is just the Ceaser haircut after wearing a visor all day
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I just hope last night was us truly keeping it conservative vs some others issues. It just seemed like offensively we were kinda meh.
Martinez did not throw the ball to open receivers, and checked down literally every time. He's gonna need to pull the trigger, and not be in his own head.
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I just hope last night was us truly keeping it conservative vs some others issues. It just seemed like offensively we were kinda meh.
Martinez did not throw the ball to open receivers, and checked down literally every time. He's gonna need to pull the trigger, and not be in his own head.
Espn coverage was pretty poor on showing route trees, I think a lot of fan reaction was initially that we couldn’t get open and I’m starting to realize that may not have been 100% true
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I just hope last night was us truly keeping it conservative vs some others issues. It just seemed like offensively we were kinda meh.
Martinez did not throw the ball to open receivers, and checked down literally every time. He's gonna need to pull the trigger, and not be in his own head.
Espn coverage was pretty poor on showing route trees, I think a lot of fan reaction was initially that we couldn’t get open and I’m starting to realize that may not have been 100% true
After the third or fourth drive I made it a point to watch the receivers and and the QB, we were open. South Dakota played over the top so the intermediate routes were available.
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Game script counts for something, but it still would have been nice to see the attempts. Rubley looked much more comfortable slinging it and has a cannon by the looks of it.
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I just hope last night was us truly keeping it conservative vs some others issues. It just seemed like offensively we were kinda meh.
Martinez did not throw the ball to open receivers, and checked down literally every time. He's gonna need to pull the trigger, and not be in his own head.
Espn coverage was pretty poor on showing route trees, I think a lot of fan reaction was initially that we couldn’t get open and I’m starting to realize that may not have been 100% true
After the third or fourth drive I made it a point to watch the receivers and and the QB, we were open. South Dakota played over the top so the intermediate routes were available.
I think that’s more encouraging than our WR not being able to get separation against an FCS secondary. Wish he would have worked out some of whatever his demons are around throwing INT’s but we should have a good idea what he’s got this week because we will have to throw it around better than we did.
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I just hope last night was us truly keeping it conservative vs some others issues. It just seemed like offensively we were kinda meh.
Martinez did not throw the ball to open receivers, and checked down literally every time. He's gonna need to pull the trigger, and not be in his own head.
Espn coverage was pretty poor on showing route trees, I think a lot of fan reaction was initially that we couldn’t get open and I’m starting to realize that may not have been 100% true
After the third or fourth drive I made it a point to watch the receivers and and the QB, we were open. South Dakota played over the top so the intermediate routes were available.
I think that’s more encouraging than our WR not being able to get separation against an FCS secondary. Wish he would have worked out some of whatever his demons are around throwing INT’s but we should have a good idea what he’s got this week because we will have to throw it around better than we did.
Would be nice to see an all-22 version of the game.
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I am embarrassed that I had to find this thread on page 3. I’ve let you down, fatty fat fat.
https://twitter.com/mzenitz/status/1574384322190233601?s=20&t=4FYsaKH_nyVHcymL_5911Q
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Nice to see Klein took my advice and implemented (at least partially) the qb battering ram offense. 21 carries for AM. It's how you win games at Kansas State.
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Amazes me that the offense can both be so good at running with Martinez and so good at passing with Howard.
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Yeah good call. I think CK deserves some credit there
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Before this game I was laughing my ass off at people that thought we were gonna lose Colin Klein to potential head coaching jobs this year. Now I’m worried again.
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Amazes me that the offense can both be so good at running with Martinez and so good at passing with Howard.
Need to get them on the field at the same time. 9AM could shift out the flat maybe (just spitballing here, but a master like CK could draw up something awesome).
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Andy Reid made offense fun I'm about it
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Fun to score lots of points without the QB-as-battering-ram offense. Playmakers getting the ball and making plays. Really fun offense to watch.
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Fun to score lots of points without the QB-as-battering-ram offense. Playmakers getting the ball and making plays. Really fun offense to watch.
You got a good point. I think CK didn't appreciate HCBS's battering ram offense.
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Before this game I was laughing my ass off at people that thought we were gonna lose Colin Klein to potential head coaching jobs this year. Now I’m worried again.
@ me next time, hoe.
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Before this game I was laughing my ass off at people that thought we were gonna lose Colin Klein to potential head coaching jobs this year. Now I’m worried again.
@ me next time, hoe.
lol. I was including myself in that group that I was laughing my ass off at. I’m worried about Nebraska coming after Klieman now. I still haven’t figured out why the playbook appears to be different when 9 AM is in at quarterback versus what they are doing with Will Howard. I can’t help but wonder it’s not Klein’s play calling but the different quarterbacks ability to make reads and throw the ball. I have a hard time believing that 9 AM doesn’t have as good arm as Will Howard.
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MIR has zero clue too to be fair
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Before this game I was laughing my ass off at people that thought we were gonna lose Colin Klein to potential head coaching jobs this year. Now I’m worried again.
@ me next time, hoe.
lol. I was including myself in that group that I was laughing my ass off at. I’m worried about Nebraska coming after Klieman now. I still haven’t figured out why the playbook appears to be different when 9 AM is in at quarterback versus what they are doing with Will Howard. I can’t help but wonder it’s not Klein’s play calling but the different quarterbacks ability to make reads and throw the ball. I have a hard time believing that 9 AM doesn’t have as good arm as Will Howard.
He's already said so, but I absolutely believe Klieman doesn't want Nebraska. It's an absolute gong show. They have spent the last 25 years firing coaches at a rate as high as any job in the power 5. They have championship expectations but have had the success of Texas Tech as long as any current player or recruit has been alive. Klieman might have a top 10 cushy job in college football. The pay could be higher, but when you've spent your entire career in D3 and the FCS, I'm sure he feels like a Bolshevik making $3 million a year in Manhattan.
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Before this game I was laughing my ass off at people that thought we were gonna lose Colin Klein to potential head coaching jobs this year. Now I’m worried again.
@ me next time, hoe.
lol. I was including myself in that group that I was laughing my ass off at. I’m worried about Nebraska coming after Klieman now. I still haven’t figured out why the playbook appears to be different when 9 AM is in at quarterback versus what they are doing with Will Howard. I can’t help but wonder it’s not Klein’s play calling but the different quarterbacks ability to make reads and throw the ball. I have a hard time believing that 9 AM doesn’t have as good arm as Will Howard.
He's already said so, but I absolutely believe Klieman doesn't want Nebraska. It's an absolute gong show. They have spent the last 25 years firing coaches at a rate as high as any job in the power 5. They have championship expectations but have had the success of Texas Tech as long as any current player or recruit has been alive. Klieman might have a top 10 cushy job in college football. The pay could be higher, but when you've spent your entire career in D3 and the FCS, I'm sure he feels like a Bolshevik making $3 million a year in Manhattan.
Just message board talk and Klieman is the flavor of the day. lol
https://nebraska.forums.rivals.com/threads/klieman.333640/ (https://nebraska.forums.rivals.com/threads/klieman.333640/)
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Before this game I was laughing my ass off at people that thought we were gonna lose Colin Klein to potential head coaching jobs this year. Now I’m worried again.
@ me next time, hoe.
lol. I was including myself in that group that I was laughing my ass off at. I’m worried about Nebraska coming after Klieman now. I still haven’t figured out why the playbook appears to be different when 9 AM is in at quarterback versus what they are doing with Will Howard. I can’t help but wonder it’s not Klein’s play calling but the different quarterbacks ability to make reads and throw the ball. I have a hard time believing that 9 AM doesn’t have as good arm as Will Howard.
You know AM had shoulder surgery, right?
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Before this game I was laughing my ass off at people that thought we were gonna lose Colin Klein to potential head coaching jobs this year. Now I’m worried again.
@ me next time, hoe.
lol. I was including myself in that group that I was laughing my ass off at. I’m worried about Nebraska coming after Klieman now. I still haven’t figured out why the playbook appears to be different when 9 AM is in at quarterback versus what they are doing with Will Howard. I can’t help but wonder it’s not Klein’s play calling but the different quarterbacks ability to make reads and throw the ball. I have a hard time believing that 9 AM doesn’t have as good arm as Will Howard.
You know AM had shoulder surgery, right?
Yeah, I mean I couldn’t tell his spin rate, but it sure looked like he still was able to put some zip on his balls.
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Before this game I was laughing my ass off at people that thought we were gonna lose Colin Klein to potential head coaching jobs this year. Now I’m worried again.
@ me next time, hoe.
lol. I was including myself in that group that I was laughing my ass off at. I’m worried about Nebraska coming after Klieman now. I still haven’t figured out why the playbook appears to be different when 9 AM is in at quarterback versus what they are doing with Will Howard. I can’t help but wonder it’s not Klein’s play calling but the different quarterbacks ability to make reads and throw the ball. I have a hard time believing that 9 AM doesn’t have as good arm as Will Howard.
You know AM had shoulder surgery, right?
Yeah, I mean I couldn’t tell his spin rate, but it sure looked like he still was able to put some zip on his balls.
But if he isn't 100% he could struggle with accuracy and/or confidence in delivery even if he can put zip on it. He might even if he was 100% physically but not ready mentally!
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I hope he’s mentally ready to run for 500 yards on Saturday
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Can we talk more about spin rate? I’ve zoomed in a bunch on his passes on my 16K TV and had noticed that the ball was spinning incredibly fast.
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lol
9AM at QB
WR’s can’t get separation
Why isn’t CK running the offense we saw against LSU
Will Howitzer at QB
WR’s are wide open
CK is an offensive play calling wizard
I am a big Adrian Martinez fan, and his ability to run gives us an extra dynamic, but honestly, I don’t see how we can keep Will Howitzer out of the starting lineup.
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spin rate is everything now a days and the qb I want on this field has the highest spin rate
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I hope he’s mentally ready to run for 500 yards on Saturday
That'll be the ku game but yes, 9AM I bet if here's ready will have a great game, and if not, #takethewheelwill
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We’re in too good of a spot now to worry about next year. Will’s redshirt better no longer be a factor.
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I hope he’s mentally ready to run for 500 yards on Saturday
I hope he's mentally ready to stand on the sideline with his helmet on.
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I’m encouraged that in a game we won 48-0 Howard threw the ball 37 times. So like our coaches aren’t stubborn enough to run the same crap for every quarterback. And if Avery can throw the ball as good as we hope, he’s going to throw it a ton.
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We’re in too good of a spot now to worry about next year. Will’s redshirt better no longer be a factor.
I mean he's still the backup, if that's what you're asking, that hasn't changed.
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We’re in too good of a spot now to worry about next year. Will’s redshirt better no longer be a factor.
I mean he's still the backup, if that's what you're asking, that hasn't changed.
I think Will Howitzer being the man and being able to absolutely kill the last few weeks he would love to start but we don't think Klie and Co would do that to him would we?
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We’re in too good of a spot now to worry about next year. Will’s redshirt better no longer be a factor.
I mean he's still the backup, if that's what you're asking, that hasn't changed.
I think Will Howitzer being the man and being able to absolutely kill the last few weeks he would love to start but we don't think Klie and Co would do that to him would we?
I feel like y'all keep finding new ways to ask the same question.
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We’re in too good of a spot now to worry about next year. Will’s redshirt better no longer be a factor.
I mean he's still the backup, if that's what you're asking, that hasn't changed.
I think Will Howitzer being the man and being able to absolutely kill the last few weeks he would love to start but we don't think Klie and Co would do that to him would we?
I feel like y'all keep finding new ways to ask the same question.
https://twitter.com/DerekYoungKSO/status/1587499209053409281?s=20&t=IdH-fCeug3v6XYJKNTMEcQ
Well this pretty much says if Will is down to lose the redshirt he will start.
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ksu future opponents' national defensive ranks in yards per play allowed
total ypp allowed (rush/pass)
texas #22 (22/16)
baylor #29 (26/28)
west virginia #118 (58/127)
kansas #88 (60/107)
do we try to use both qb's during the next couple games to try and find a weakness? generally i think that's a bad idea, but idk we may need a changeup mid-game
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I think that as long as we are willing and able to attack 8 man fronts with the deep ball, we will be just fine.
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I think that as long as we are willing and able to attack 8 man fronts with the deep ball, we will be just fine.
yep. it's like the opposite problem that pat mahomes has
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We’re in too good of a spot now to worry about next year. Will’s redshirt better no longer be a factor.
I mean he's still the backup, if that's what you're asking, that hasn't changed.
I think Will Howitzer being the man and being able to absolutely kill the last few weeks he would love to start but we don't think Klie and Co would do that to him would we?
I feel like y'all keep finding new ways to ask the same question.
https://twitter.com/DerekYoungKSO/status/1587499209053409281?s=20&t=IdH-fCeug3v6XYJKNTMEcQ
Well this pretty much says if Will is down to lose the redshirt he will start.
I don't think that's what that says, at all. I mean I could see how someone could see that, but that quote could mean anything.
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He’s just a Sophomore, right?
Check that, Junior
Check that Soph eligibility, tho, right?
So confusing . . .
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He’s just a Sophomore, right?
Yea the RS thing is v weird
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Does it help to just ignore the 2020 year for everyone?
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Does it help to just ignore the 2020 year for everyone?
Helps my mental well being quite a bit, yes
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ksu future opponents' national defensive ranks in yards per play allowed
total ypp allowed (rush/pass)
texas #22 (22/16)
baylor #29 (26/28)
west virginia #118 (58/127)
kansas #88 (60/107)
do we try to use both qb's during the next couple games to try and find a weakness? generally i think that's a bad idea, but idk we may need a changeup mid-game
So if you're going off that, you'd play:
Will
Will
Adrian
Adrian
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do either of these guys also play on our defense?
because otherwise it probably doesn’t matter
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He’s just a Sophomore, right?
Yea the RS thing is v weird
Is he just wanting to preserve eligibility for when he portals? Stuck behind Adrian this year with an elite 11 qb coming next year.
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ksu future opponents' national defensive ranks in yards per play allowed
total ypp allowed (rush/pass)
texas #22 (22/16)
baylor #29 (26/28)
west virginia #118 (58/127)
kansas #88 (60/107)
do we try to use both qb's during the next couple games to try and find a weakness? generally i think that's a bad idea, but idk we may need a changeup mid-game
So if you're going off that, you'd play:
Will
Will
Adrian
Adrian
Opposite, assuming you want to attack a defense's weakness.
But it really doesn't matter. UT and Baylor have good defenses and WVU and KU have trash defenses
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ksu future opponents' national defensive ranks in yards per play allowed
total ypp allowed (rush/pass)
texas #22 (22/16)
baylor #29 (26/28)
west virginia #118 (58/127)
kansas #88 (60/107)
do we try to use both qb's during the next couple games to try and find a weakness? generally i think that's a bad idea, but idk we may need a changeup mid-game
So if you're going off that, you'd play:
Will
Will
Adrian
Adrian
Opposite, assuming you want to attack a defense's weakness.
But it really doesn't matter. UT and Baylor have good defenses and WVU and KU have trash defenses
Ah crap I read that backwards I read it as their rankings, my bad
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I think it’s safe to say so.
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ksu future opponents' national defensive ranks in yards per play allowed
total ypp allowed (rush/pass)
texas #22 (22/16)
baylor #29 (26/28)
west virginia #118 (58/127)
kansas #88 (60/107)
do we try to use both qb's during the next couple games to try and find a weakness? generally i think that's a bad idea, but idk we may need a changeup mid-game
So if you're going off that, you'd play:
Will
Will
Adrian
Adrian
Opposite, assuming you want to attack a defense's weakness.
But it really doesn't matter. UT and Baylor have good defenses and WVU and KU have trash defenses
Dekkers went ham on them for 330 yards and 2TD’s, I like our chances in the Air.
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if i'm will i'm saying put me qb1 or i'm redshirting. f this team crap
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ksu future opponents' national defensive ranks in yards per play allowed
total ypp allowed (rush/pass)
texas #22 (22/16)
baylor #29 (26/28)
west virginia #118 (58/127)
kansas #88 (60/107)
do we try to use both qb's during the next couple games to try and find a weakness? generally i think that's a bad idea, but idk we may need a changeup mid-game
So if you're going off that, you'd play:
Will
Will
Adrian
Adrian
Opposite, assuming you want to attack a defense's weakness.
But it really doesn't matter. UT and Baylor have good defenses and WVU and KU have trash defenses
Ah crap I read that backwards I read it as their rankings, my bad
those numbers are their rankings. wvu and ku have two of the absolute worst pass defenses in FBS. wouldn't you want to attack that with the howitzer?
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10 years ago, folks:
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10 years ago, folks:
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Twas a good birthday
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So while I was in the shower, after pissing myself because of Chris Paul memes, see the Kanye twitter thread, I was thinking about the K-State Volleyball opening. Now, I know who the UNLV athletic director is, I've posted about him before. What did click in my head while in the shower, is that the athletic director, Erick Harper, member of K-State's foundation, former LHC Bill Snyder linebacker, fired his football coach.
Just putting that out there, no reason.
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The Chamber is far too good a coaching prospect to take a job that bad. UNLV has never been good.
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The Chamber is far too good a coaching prospect to take a job that bad. UNLV has never been good.
That's a very good job for someone in his 30s who's only been an OC for 3 seasons. I think they spend a decent amount of money on football for a G5
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i didn’t realize harper was the ad at unlv, good for him
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UNLV has had one winning season since 2000. They did move into Allegiant Stadium. which could be beneficial. I could see them being good and popular if they committed to winning like Tark's boys. Could be a big draw. Prob not as much now w/ pro sports in town tho.
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Mr. Harper moved my tickets from Section 21 to Section 5 thirty years ago; he can take what he wants
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0/10 troll post
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we'll see but I'm guessing that hire will have K-State ties, could be sweaty gary
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we'll see but I'm guessing that hire will have K-State ties, could be sweaty gary
Good thing they have a dome now. He would melt in that desert heat.
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we'll see but I'm guessing that hire will have K-State ties, could be sweaty gary
Good thing they have a dome now. He would melt in that desert heat.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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UNLV has had one winning season since 2000. They did move into Allegiant Stadium. which could be beneficial. I could see them being good and popular if they committed to winning like Tark's boys. Could be a big draw. Prob not as much now w/ pro sports in town tho.
I don't see how it could be beneficial. G5 schools playing in huge, empty pro stadiums has never been a good look. And outside of '98 with Shaun King at Tulane and Marshall Faulk at San Diego State, I can't think of many other examples. Tulane upgraded their status significantly when they left the Superdome for a dinky new on-campus stade. Hope it works out for UNLV though, they deserve nice things just like everybody.
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UNLV has had one winning season since 2000. They did move into Allegiant Stadium. which could be beneficial. I could see them being good and popular if they committed to winning like Tark's boys. Could be a big draw. Prob not as much now w/ pro sports in town tho.
I don't see how it could be beneficial. G5 schools playing in huge, empty pro stadiums has never been a good look. And outside of '98 with Shaun King at Tulane and Marshall Faulk at San Diego State, I can't think of many other examples. Tulane upgraded their status significantly when they left the Superdome for a dinky new on-campus stade. Hope it works out for UNLV though, they deserve nice things just like everybody.
Definitely. I was more looking back at UNLV's basketball success in the 1980s and early 90s. They fully embraced the entertainment aspect of Vegas and wrapped it around their basketball program and Vegas image. Vegas loves a show, and back then they were the only sports show in town other than boxing.
That's not the case anymore, so would probably be very difficult. Vegas has really embraced the Knights. Not sure on the Raiders. College football might be a difficult sell.
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UNLV has had one winning season since 2000. They did move into Allegiant Stadium. which could be beneficial. I could see them being good and popular if they committed to winning like Tark's boys. Could be a big draw. Prob not as much now w/ pro sports in town tho.
I don't see how it could be beneficial. G5 schools playing in huge, empty pro stadiums has never been a good look. And outside of '98 with Shaun King at Tulane and Marshall Faulk at San Diego State, I can't think of many other examples. Tulane upgraded their status significantly when they left the Superdome for a dinky new on-campus stade. Hope it works out for UNLV though, they deserve nice things just like everybody.
The atmosphere isn't great but the facilities for the players are miles better. UNLV has had one winning season since 2000. They did move into Allegiant Stadium. which could be beneficial. I could see them being good and popular if they committed to winning like Tark's boys. Could be a big draw. Prob not as much now w/ pro sports in town tho.
I don't see how it could be beneficial. G5 schools playing in huge, empty pro stadiums has never been a good look. And outside of '98 with Shaun King at Tulane and Marshall Faulk at San Diego State, I can't think of many other examples. Tulane upgraded their status significantly when they left the Superdome for a dinky new on-campus stade. Hope it works out for UNLV though, they deserve nice things just like everybody.
Definitely. I was more looking back at UNLV's basketball success in the 1980s and early 90s. They fully embraced the entertainment aspect of Vegas and wrapped it around their basketball program and Vegas image. Vegas loves a show, and back then they were the only sports show in town other than boxing.
That's not the case anymore, so would probably be very difficult. Vegas has really embraced the Knights. Not sure on the Raiders. College football might be a difficult sell.
If they win people will turn out
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something tells me that Las Vegas would not be at the top of the list of cities for Colin Klein to relocate to.
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Dimel to UNLV?
Wallerstedt?
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Let’s see how he does tomorrow… he and kli blew it last time against tcu
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If we lose tomorrow we’ll be 0-4 against teams that are currently ranked, that may be good enough for you guys but it isn’t good enough for me
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If we lose tomorrow we’ll be 0-4 against teams that are currently ranked, that may be good enough for you guys but it isn’t good enough for me
confirmed if we lose tomorrow it will definitely be good enough for me. Would not fire him based on that!
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If we lose tomorrow we’ll be 0-4 against teams that are currently ranked, that may be good enough for you guys but it isn’t good enough for me
If we lose tomorrow we’ll be 3-1 in games with Will Howard as our starter.
Will need to see the score to know whether we stay above the 47-point floor Howard+Klein has us on currently.
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If we lose tomorrow we’ll be 0-4 against teams that are currently ranked, that may be good enough for you guys but it isn’t good enough for me
confirmed if we lose tomorrow it will definitely be good enough for me. Would not fire him based on that!
absolutely. not our fault that baylor/okst/oklahoma/texas tech got themselves entwined in a circle J of suck
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We are going to win tomorrow, anyway. Absolutely no chance we lose.
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Think of how much better the season would've gone if we had Wheels Howlitzer as the starter from day 1.
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Think of how much better the season would've gone if we had Wheels Howlitzer as the starter from day 1.
Well who’s fault is that…
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Think of how much better the season would've gone if we had Wheels Howlitzer as the starter from day 1.
Well who’s fault is that…
The truth lies within.
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Think of how much better the season would've gone if we had Wheels Howlitzer as the starter from day 1.
Looking backward is for losers
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Think of how much better the season would've gone if we had Wheels Howlitzer as the starter from day 1.
Looking backward is for losers
I liked my history teachers! :shakesfist:
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Think of how much better the season would've gone if we had Wheels Howlitzer as the starter from day 1.
Looking backward is for losers
I liked my history teachers! :shakesfist:
Same. Favorite teachers from middle school through college.
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We are going to win tomorrow, anyway. Absolutely no chance we lose.
Apparently you didn’t see his playcalling in the tcu game, it was an abomination
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He ran howard 9 goddamn times
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He ran howard 9 goddamn times
The game plan for 9AM is completely different than for Howard. Why don’t you critique a game where Klein knew Howard would be the starter all week?
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He ran howard 9 goddamn times
The game plan for 9AM is completely different than for Howard. Why don’t you critique a game where Klein knew Howard would be the starter all week?
This. They probably have a couple hundred designed plays, but practice 30-40 plays during the week based on the starting rosters that week.
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He ran howard 9 goddamn times
The game plan for 9AM is completely different than for Howard. Why don’t you critique a game where Klein knew Howard would be the starter all week?
Any update on this analysis?
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Pay the man
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Pay the man
I think they are going to have to at a minimum double his pay
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Complete badass, confirmed.
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Adjustments after the loss of Knowles seemed incredible to me.
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Coaches were rough ridin' dialed in
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He ran howard 9 goddamn times
The game plan for 9AM is completely different than for Howard. Why don’t you critique a game where Klein knew Howard would be the starter all week?
Any update on this analysis?
You gotta stop replying to kim carnes
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let’s not break out the war chest yet.
now that b12 defensive coordinators have “tape” on klein’s “o” with will howard, you can expect that things are going to tighten up a ton next year. just be glad we took advantage this season.
the jury is still out on klein but we have reason to be cautiously optimistic
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Too late, homie is going to get the bag.
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let’s not break out the war chest yet.
now that b12 defensive coordinators have “tape” on klein’s “o” with will howard, you can expect that things are going to tighten up a ton next year. just be glad we took advantage this season.
the jury is still out on klein but we have reason to be cautiously optimistic
My brother in Christ I have one word for you: halftime adjustments
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but who was adjusting to who? :confused:
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let’s not break out the war chest yet.
now that b12 defensive coordinators have “tape” on klein’s “o” with will howard, you can expect that things are going to tighten up a ton next year. just be glad we took advantage this season.
the jury is still out on klein but we have reason to be cautiously optimistic
Indeed. And let’s be honest, Klein truly benefitted from a star-studded offense with two very different highly-skilled QBs. I hate to call it beginner’s luck, but if I’m a P5 AD looking for an OC or a G5 school looking for a head coach I’m definitely “pumping the brakes” on Klein. He’s got a lot to prove.
Let’s not even get started on his development of QBs. There’s already a large enough dossier on that right here on goEMAW.com.
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Klein probably deserves a raise if he got some bullshit prove-it type deal. I'd probably make him the 5th or so highest-paid OC in the B12.
I wouldn't be shocked if he got a couple of feelers this offseason but I don't think a bigger program is going to throw him a bag at this point. Depending on who decides to come back, I think there's a chance he gets good offers next year.
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I don't know what he's making this year, but this year's results should put him in the $400-$600k range. They should raise it another $100k if we win the Sugar.
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A natural schemer
https://youtu.be/GprrxPyiSKI
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A natural schemer
https://youtu.be/GprrxPyiSKI
He learned from The Scheme Doctor.
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Can we fix this thread's title? Embarrassing.
Second, the idea we have all this talent and beginners luck is hilarious. We could have won by 14+ if we had legit WRs who could make a play. Warner and Knowles dropped a handful of balls. Give Klein a legit WR threat and this offense could really roll
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Can we fix this thread's title? Embarrassing.
Second, the idea we have all this talent and beginners luck is hilarious. We could have won by 14+ if we had legit WRs who could make a play. Warner and Knowles dropped a handful of balls. Give Klein a legit WR threat and this offense could really roll
This take is not good.
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Can we fix this thread's title? Embarrassing.
Second, the idea we have all this talent and beginners luck is hilarious. We could have won by 14+ if we had legit WRs who could make a play. Warner and Knowles dropped a handful of balls. Give Klein a legit WR threat and this offense could really roll
This take is not good.
You should see him in the game threads...
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I love the heart of our WRs but these guys are not elite in any way
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I love the heart of our WRs but these guys are not elite in any way
Not sure if serious… Several of them got all conference honors — Knowles, Brooks, Sinnot. Warner was solid all season. Vaughn was a solid target. One of the strongest groups on the team.
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I love the heart of our WRs but these guys are not elite in any way
Not sure if serious… Several of them got all conference honors — Knowles, Brooks, Sinnot. Warner was solid all season. Vaughn was a solid target. One of the strongest groups on the team.
Sinnot and Deuce are not WRs.
Knowles, Brooks, and Warner are not elite in any way. Knowles got second team honors and that's a stretch. Check the stats.
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Purple Karen says all kinds of stupid crap. :buh-bye:
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Just finished the documentary on the Duggar family/their weird sect of “Christianity”. Makes me very concerned as to what Klein is into, guessing he’s a part of the same organization. Yikes.
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Just finished the documentary on the Duggar family/their weird sect of “Christianity”. Makes me very concerned as to what Klein is into, guessing he’s a part of the same organization. Yikes.
(https://p7.hiclipart.com/preview/947/953/164/disability-vision-loss-white-cane-visual-perception-walking-stick-others.jpg)
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collin is a christian which makes children of the lower order very anxious not being able to understand beyond the breath of their feelings in the shower.
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collin is a christian which makes children of the lower order very anxious not being able to understand beyond the breath of their feelings in the shower.
Nobody has an issue with Collin being a Christian. Lots of people, myself included, have issue with Collin appearing to endorse those who don't adhere to the teachings of the Bible and who use Christianity as a political weapon to discriminate against others.
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collin is a christian which makes children of the lower order very anxious not being able to understand beyond the breath of their feelings in the shower.
Be less weird.
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collin is a christian which makes children of the lower order very anxious not being able to understand beyond the breath of their feelings in the shower.
Nobody has an issue with Collin being a Christian. Lots of people, myself included, have issue with Collin appearing to endorse those who don't adhere to the teachings of the Bible and who use Christianity as a political weapon to discriminate against others.
0 issue with Christianity, 0 issue with weirdo holier than thou christians(for the most part). I do have an issue with this growing sect of Christianity that believes in child abuse and spousal submission. It definitely seems likely that Klein grew up in this sort of household. I hope he’s no longer a part of that culture.
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0 issue with Christianity, 0 issue with weirdo holier than thou christians(for the most part). I do have an issue with this growing sect of Christianity that believes in child abuse and spousal submission. It definitely seems likely that Klein grew up in this sort of household. I hope he’s no longer a part of that culture.
feel the same way.
weird cause he seemed all goody toe shoes playing the mandolin and being a virgin. but if he's going to keep it to himself and not gundy it up, pumps out a bunch of little wildcats with his amazon wife, and win us a bunch of football games, it's all good.
like what if he's one of those weird christians that has 20 kids? we are set at qb/te for a long ass time
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Boy, I didn't realize what a bunch of stuck-up and prejudiced posters on this thread. BTW, get the eff out of other people's business; I am sure there's a lot to be expected from you that is not met.
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Well said Katdaddy
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religious bigotry by lower thought processors is not new, just more common of late.
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I hope you're including the bigotry of lower thought processing religious people.
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I hope you're including the bigotry of lower thought processing religious people.
The comment is inherently ambiguous, but I didn't really want to ask, because this is not the Pit.
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I'm willing to look past a lot of things to continue winning football games and this is barely a blip on the radar. You do you Collin. Pump out 15 more super stud athletes while being a great OC.
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ya don’t open the door if you don’t want to know what’s on the other side of it
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I'm willing to look past a lot of things to continue winning football games and this is barely a blip on the radar. You do you Collin. Pump out 15 more super stud athletes while being a great OC.
:thumbs:
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Anyone notice any coincidence out of all the quarterbacks that have played and future recruits of Kollin Klein and Klieman? Makes you think 🤔
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Anyone notice any coincidence out of all the quarterbacks that have played and future recruits of Kollin Klein and Klieman? Makes you think 🤔
?
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Definitely going the pro style QB route.
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You’re trying a bit too hard there friend.
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Avery is biracial stunz
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Avery is biracial stunz
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:Wha:
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well he is very white-passing and probably enjoys privileges such as being recruited by koach kollin klein
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Interesting point stunz, keep investigating
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i will definitely be keeping my finger on this pulse
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well he is very white-passing and probably enjoys privileges such as being recruited by koach kollin klein
Pot, meet stir stick...
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well he is very white-passing and probably enjoys privileges such as being recruited by koach kollin klein
Adrian Martinez
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well he is very white-passing and probably enjoys privileges such as being recruited by koach kollin klein
Adrian Martinez
Many (most?) hispanics identify as white. I think stunz is onto something, here.
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“No matter how yellow our hair is dyed or how sharp we change our nose, we can’t become Westerners,”
hispanics should take a lesson from wang yi (https://hongkongfp.com/2023/07/04/chinas-top-diplomat-urges-south-korea-japan-to-know-their-roots-reject-western-influences/)
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More egregious issue here, calling Avery Johnson, Jaren Lewis, Adrian Martinez, and Adryan Lara white or intentionally excluding John Holcombe, Alex Delton, and Chris Herron?
I guess ending affirmative action wasn't enough, we're just going for full erasure of my people. :cry:
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The minority infighting is getting a bit out of hand around here iyam.
Let’s focus on our potential caste all-American qb (or two).
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The minority infighting is getting a bit out of hand around here iyam.
Let’s focus on our potential caste all-American qb (or two).
I think you need another edit here, nic.
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The minority infighting is getting a bit out of hand around here iyam.
Let’s focus on our potential caste all-American qb (or two).
I think you need another edit here, nic.
Three!?!
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:lol:
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well he is very white-passing and probably enjoys privileges such as being recruited by koach kollin klein
Probably
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https://castefootball.us/threads/2022-kansas-state-wildcats.38887/
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:lol:
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More egregious issue here, calling Avery Johnson, Jaren Lewis, Adrian Martinez, and Adryan Lara white or intentionally excluding John Holcombe, Alex Delton, and Chris Herron?
I guess ending affirmative action wasn't enough, we're just going for full erasure of my people. :cry:
with exception of martinez, they'd probably get at least 65% white if they used 23andme. maybe "good enough" for castefootball's favorite offensive coordinator.
weren't they trying to move holcombe to te or something? delton to wr? was herron ever on the roster? guys, it's crystal clear what's going on.
i think i'm pro-affirmative action mir, but i really haven't looked into both sides enough
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https://castefootball.us/threads/2022-kansas-state-wildcats.38887/
They're really going to struggle with Avery when the time comes, can't wait to see it.
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What the hell is that board?
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What the hell is that board?
I'm sorry it's in your browser history now
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What the hell is that board?
It's been a favorite of this board since the ksufans days. It's hilarious.
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what if collein klein is a complete whitesupremacistass?
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Yikes, it's uncomfortably close to texags
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Yikes, it's uncomfortably close to texags
Texags is far more overtly racist. I mean, we don’t know what these caste dudes are saying behind closed doors (OK, we prob do), but they aren’t really running down other peoples on the site, just celebrating the white bros.
I wonder how the caste bball/NBA fan sees it. It is just white Americans or are they claiming internationals as well.
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Not far from this board apparently judging from this thread
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Yikes, it's uncomfortably close to texags
Texags is far more overtly racist. I mean, we don’t know what these caste dudes are saying behind closed doors (OK, we prob do), but they aren’t really running down other peoples on the site, just celebrating the white bros.
I wonder how the caste bball/NBA fan sees it. It is just white Americans or are they claiming internationals as well.
You clearly didn't explore past the football part
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Yikes, it's uncomfortably close to texags
Texags is far more overtly racist. I mean, we don’t know what these caste dudes are saying behind closed doors (OK, we prob do), but they aren’t really running down other peoples on the site, just celebrating the white bros.
I wonder how the caste bball/NBA fan sees it. It is just white Americans or are they claiming internationals as well.
You clearly didn't explore past the football part
probably for the best
like nic, texags is really racist but most of them wouldn't march in a KKK rally, while everyone at caste football would gladly march in a KKK rally (and probably have). The KKK might not actually be extreme enough for those folks.
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The caste 2022-23 March Madness Preview … it took awhile for me to find real vitriol, but alas it’s there in spades in this preview
https://castefootball.us/threads/march-madness-2023.39168/
#3 Kansas State Wildcats
Black head coach Jerome Tang coaches an all-black outfit with two corn-fed white mascots at the end of the bench, not on scholarship. You can practically smell the fresh apple pie on the windowsill of this quintessential Americana heartland team.
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Yikes, it's uncomfortably close to texags
Texags is far more overtly racist. I mean, we don’t know what these caste dudes are saying behind closed doors (OK, we prob do), but they aren’t really running down other peoples on the site, just celebrating the white bros.
I wonder how the caste bball/NBA fan sees it. It is just white Americans or are they claiming internationals as well.
You clearly didn't explore past the football part
probably for the best
like nic, texags is really racist but most of them wouldn't march in a KKK rally, while everyone at caste football would gladly march in a KKK rally (and probably have). The KKK might not actually be extreme enough for those folks.
Oh yeah, the KKK is a gateway club for those gringos
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Hold on to your asses
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ck has entered the portal
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Hold on to your asses
Big Beaver?
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Hold on to your asses
Big Beaver?
I was hearing aTm
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Good riddance
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i'm pretty indifferent about ck leaving. if someone like him, who has irl probably 1/3 of an actual functioning brain, can do it, we can probably find somebody else to do the job just fine
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Timing is not great with Avery but thems the breaks I guess
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Timing is not great with Avery but thems the breaks I guess
You think he would pad the resume a little with Avery but oh well..
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Timing is not great with Avery but thems the breaks I guess
You think he would pad the resume a little with Avery but oh well..
The resume needs no padding sir
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I’d prefer we make Sams our qb right now but if that’s impossible I’d be good with him as oc.
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When Avery leaves that will free up money to get a transfer big next year
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When Avery leaves that will free up money to get a transfer big next year
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HCCK has hired 50% good OCs and 50% bad OCs at KSU.
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I'm trying to remember the last time our fans were content with our OC. Not sure I can do it. Probably not even James Franklin (once Prince's shock-and-awe honeymoon ended, anyway).
Goshdarn it, Sandstone. You had to designate an OC "good" in a post while I typed this, didn't you?
I, for one, think Klein has been good-to-outstanding, but I'll caveat that by admitting that I know very little about offensive football strategy and am completely unqualified to judge OCs.
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Klein is a star. Do literally anything to keep him
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It would be a terrible look to lose the guy who would have drubbed Notre Dame for a KSU national title, exposed Manti Teo, and won the Heisman if Baylor hadn't had a freakishly athletic and talented team basically perfectly positioned to defeat our lunchpail all stars. Especially to a middling SEC program like aTm.
Back up the truck!
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Would be wild if it comes to fruition.. his mom just bought a house literally across the street from him
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Say what now
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:frown: It was nice knowing u avery
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A&M seems like a disgusting spot. The fake army stuff, costumes, weird band. Although Klein is a religious guy, never thought of him as wacko.
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lateral move, dumb
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Good news I have heard on the news this evening. CK turned down offers from Penn State and ATM.
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Now that he’s at aTm Collin won’t have to purge all the MAGA bullshit he likes on Twitter
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Shut it all down
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The Lepak/Knuth era of KSU football has begun
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Shut it all down
we can quit pretending that he was anything but an average offensive coordinator with cte now
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Gross
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We're about to become irrelevant.
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If Avery leaves idk what I'll do come the fall. Probably take up cross-stitching
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Good riddance
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A fun few days making fun of KU for losing their OC
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the big kitn is ksu basically throwing in the towel at for at least trying to compete with the big dogs. instead we're just ok to be decent in our new crap conference.
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LMAO at Notre Dame being too woke for him. Really aTm was the best spot for him
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personally, i think it would be bad if a former kstate star accepted an offer to do the same job at a different university.
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If CK does well at aTm, he'll have good P5 head coaching offers within a year. Pretty obvious he wasn't gonna be here long after the ND thing last year.
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Especially since it will be a basically whole new unit on offense
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When aTm doesn't win a natty in 3 years, they're going to fire the whole coaching staff again. Why would you want to coach at a middle-of-the-road school in the SEC, especially there?
Collin also crapped the bed when we played Texas so idk what Aggies think they're getting.
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I liked our offense.
:frown:
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k-state fans acting like we lost some football svengali is very k-state fan
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If CK does well at aTm, he'll have good P5 head coaching offers within a year. Pretty obvious he wasn't gonna be here long after the ND thing last year.
Yes. And it sounds like he has a a 5 star qb to work with right off the bat. Klein will be the next big coach out of KSU that all the fans insist is going to bid his time and then give up his SEC head coaching job to come coach us once CK retires.
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Kind of gross that he chose A$M over Penn State. The Aggie cult has gotten worse over the years.
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I liked our offense.
:frown:
They score a lot of points
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I may have to wonder over to college station to see all the weirdness now
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A&M seems like an ideal fit for Klein given his Twitter activities. Hopefully coach can find a good replacement. Klein kinda fell in our laps and Messingham was awful.
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CK leaving is fine. If he poaches Avery, we riot.
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What was the date of the 1998 game?
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What was the date of the 1998 game?
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When aTm doesn't win a natty in 3 years, they're going to fire the whole coaching staff again. Why would you want to coach at a middle-of-the-road school in the SEC, especially there?
Collin also crapped the bed when we played Texas so idk what Aggies think they're getting.
eff tons of money :dunno:
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CK leaving is fine. If he poaches Avery, we riot.
Yea if he takes players/coaches with him we riot.
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CK leaving is fine. If he poaches Avery, we riot.
Yea if he takes players/coaches with him we riot.
he seems pure of heart (generally speaking) and that would not be very godly of him
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He's a coaching star. Our offense finished at the top of the big 12 this year!
And Texas aTm is absolutely a match made in heaven for Collin Klein's world view. He'll probably never leave.
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I'd much rather have coordinators and coaches that other programs try to hire than the alternative.
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getting "outside experience" so he can be future head coach?
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getting "outside experience" so he can be future head coach?
If he has success at A&M he will be an SEC HC within 2 years imo.
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getting "outside experience" so he can be future head coach?
If he has success at A&M he will be an SEC HC within 2 years imo.
so without a job in 5 years
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getting "outside experience" so he can be future head coach?
If he has success at A&M he will be an SEC HC within 2 years imo.
so without a job in 5 years
Retired before 40 sounds pretty nice
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Hope he takes Will with him and not Avery. :buh-bye:
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When aTm doesn't win a natty in 3 years, they're going to fire the whole coaching staff again. Why would you want to coach at a middle-of-the-road school in the SEC, especially there?
Collin also crapped the bed when we played Texas so idk what Aggies think they're getting.
eff tons of money :dunno:
Money and I’m assuming he does prefer the political leanings of the south more generally.
Also once you get in the SEC carousel it’s really easy to stick around.
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When aTm doesn't win a natty in 3 years, they're going to fire the whole coaching staff again. Why would you want to coach at a middle-of-the-road school in the SEC, especially there?
Collin also crapped the bed when we played Texas so idk what Aggies think they're getting.
eff tons of money :dunno:
Money and I’m assuming he does prefer the political leanings of the south more generally.
Also once you get in the SEC carousel it’s really easy to stick around.
Are the political leanings of the south that much different than in western KS? I don't follow CK on the Twitters or anything, but from what I gather he loves his jeezus a whole lot and that helps him call football plays. Sounds like western KS to me? :dunno:
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When aTm doesn't win a natty in 3 years, they're going to fire the whole coaching staff again. Why would you want to coach at a middle-of-the-road school in the SEC, especially there?
Collin also crapped the bed when we played Texas so idk what Aggies think they're getting.
eff tons of money :dunno:
Money and I’m assuming he does prefer the political leanings of the south more generally.
Also once you get in the SEC carousel it’s really easy to stick around.
Are the political leanings of the south that much different than in western KS? I don't follow CK on the Twitters or anything, but from what I gather he loves his jeezus a whole lot and that helps him call football plays. Sounds like western KS to me? :dunno:
He follows politicans like Lauren Boebert on twitter. Cult A&M will fit him quite well.
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When aTm doesn't win a natty in 3 years, they're going to fire the whole coaching staff again. Why would you want to coach at a middle-of-the-road school in the SEC, especially there?
Collin also crapped the bed when we played Texas so idk what Aggies think they're getting.
eff tons of money :dunno:
Money and I’m assuming he does prefer the political leanings of the south more generally.
Also once you get in the SEC carousel it’s really easy to stick around.
Yep. And while we can agree that it’s good to have the type of coaches that deeper pockets would like to take off our hands, it points to something bigger imo.
The college football landscape has changed drastically, and looks to continue to evolve.
Klein as an example is likely moving into the stratosphere of the Jeff Lebbys of the world, where top assistants are getting paid $1.8M+/year. Those numbers will only grow as the gulf between the haves and have nots continues to grow.
This is just talking about coaches salaries, but when you add in additional TV money, NIL or what could eventually simply be salaried/contracted players, the gulf becomes exponentially larger.
College football became a big business years ago. Big business at its heart is evil, ever-consuming and ever-coalescing.
The only thing that can really put a stop to it is some type of diminishing returns.
This post probably fits better in the smoke your cigars thread.
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I know CK7 is a religious Fundy but how much? Obviously we know the whole not kissing his gf before marriage which can kind of be brushed away as cute and old fashioned but does he think humans and dinosaurs walked the earth together?
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We are hearing that initially the major hold up on aTm hiring Klein was his reluctance to tacitly condone their tradition of pre-marital kissing after touchdowns. Some talk that aTm has offered to forcibly prohibit those acts going forward.
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I know CK7 is a religious Fundy but how much? Obviously we know the whole not kissing his gf before marriage which can kind of be brushed away as cute and old fashioned but does he think humans and dinosaurs walked the earth together?
Knowledgeable fundies ascribe to the Gap Theory.
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I know CK7 is a religious Fundy but how much? Obviously we know the whole not kissing his gf before marriage which can kind of be brushed away as cute and old fashioned but does he think humans and dinosaurs walked the earth together?
Knowledgeable fundies ascribe to the Gap Theory.
Tell me more
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I know CK7 is a religious Fundy but how much? Obviously we know the whole not kissing his gf before marriage which can kind of be brushed away as cute and old fashioned but does he think humans and dinosaurs walked the earth together?
iirc he follows (followed?) a lot of alt right MAGA/nazi people on twitter. So do a lot of my family members probably though and I still love them for the things unrelated to that stuff.
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CK is no doubt a religious nut and follows political nuts, but he wasn't proselytizing it publicly constantly so it really didn't bother me. Tang likely has less extreme beliefs, sure, but he is far preachier (I don't really have a problem with that either).
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CK is no doubt a religious nut and follows political nuts, but he wasn't proselytizing it publicly constantly so it really didn't bother me. Tang likely has less extreme beliefs, sure, but he is far preachier (I don't really have a problem with that either).
yeah, neither bother me in the least
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I know CK7 is a religious Fundy but how much? Obviously we know the whole not kissing his gf before marriage which can kind of be brushed away as cute and old fashioned but does he think humans and dinosaurs walked the earth together?
Knowledgeable fundies ascribe to the Gap Theory.
Tell me more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu2f_be6RU0
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Our coaches could be harvesting adrenochrome from babies bought on the black market and I wouldn't care as long as they are winning
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When aTm doesn't win a natty in 3 years, they're going to fire the whole coaching staff again. Why would you want to coach at a middle-of-the-road school in the SEC, especially there?
Collin also crapped the bed when we played Texas so idk what Aggies think they're getting.
eff tons of money :dunno:
Money and I’m assuming he does prefer the political leanings of the south more generally.
Also once you get in the SEC carousel it’s really easy to stick around.
Are the political leanings of the south that much different than in western KS? I don't follow CK on the Twitters or anything, but from what I gather he loves his jeezus a whole lot and that helps him call football plays. Sounds like western KS to me? :dunno:
He follows politicans like Lauren Boebert on twitter. Cult A&M will fit him quite well.
Gotcha, didn't know he was MAGA, but I guess in the end the best MAGA are the ones that keep it quiet. I didn't know those MAGA people existed.
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between the state of kansas and the state of texas...one voted overwhelmingly for the people to get to retain the right to choose whether or not to get an abortion. the other state...knew better than let the people decide and the elected officials just pretty much completely outlawed it before the ink was try on the Dobbs decision.
but this is treading into pit territory so i'll leave it at that.
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the big kitn is ksu basically throwing in the towel at for at least trying to compete with the big dogs. instead we're just ok to be decent in our new crap conference.
They're going to pay that dude $2 million
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End of the day it's shitty timing cause Avery, but this was going to happen (and needed to happen) eventually. He'll be our head coach in 5-7 years and he needs to learn different styles and places and make some money along the way.
Just picking A&M is gross.
Til next time when Klieman retires Klein
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many of these posts belong in the pit
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CK is no doubt a religious nut and follows political nuts, but he wasn't proselytizing it publicly constantly so it really didn't bother me. Tang likely has less extreme beliefs, sure, but he is far preachier (I don't really have a problem with that either).
Klein was "counseled" about his twitter presence.
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End of the day it's shitty timing cause Avery, but this was going to happen (and needed to happen) eventually. He'll be our head coach in 5-7 years and he needs to learn different styles and places and make some money along the way.
Just picking A&M is gross.
Til next time when Klieman retires Klein
I think most of the teeth gnashing is about where he going. If he got the Boise State job people wouldn't have their dicks in the dirt, but Avery would still be tampered with.
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ITT: Lots of proud bigotry.
Imagine believing in 2023 that there's a virtuous team and an evil team and not just a bunch of actors inspiring people to adopt dumb conflicting positions on issues that don't affect powerful interests so those powerful interests can keep strip mining the world for their own benefit! LOL. Rubes.
My view on CK's politics has been made clear and I'm not going to restate that here, he's gone, and I don't care. I will say this though in regard to your post. If your side, whatever it is, has a platform of restricting anyone's rights, that's inherently evil. People should always call that out, no matter the message board, topic, dinner party company, whatever.
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CK leaving is fine. If he poaches Avery, we riot.
Yea if he takes players/coaches with him we riot.
Dude. I can't handle that kind of thing these days.
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CK leaving is fine. If he poaches Avery, we riot.
Yea if he takes players/coaches with him we riot.
Dude. I can't handle that kind of thing these days.
Yeah, Lil SF has an AJ signed helmet under the tree. If CK takes him and I have to give my kid an outdated gift, I'm going to be mad.
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MR, very nicely put.
If you were single, a woman and looked exactly like Alyssa Milano, I'd marry you and buy you Cat season tickets on the 35 yard line (lower bowl).
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I know CK7 is a religious Fundy but how much? Obviously we know the whole not kissing his gf before marriage which can kind of be brushed away as cute and old fashioned but does he think humans and dinosaurs walked the earth together?
iirc he follows (followed?) a lot of alt right MAGA/nazi people on twitter. So do a lot of my family members probably though and I still love them for the things unrelated to that stuff.
So he follows (followed?) a lot of good-hearted, wholesome people that are the antithesis of nazi "people." It's not like he followed a bunch of brown-shirt like ANTIFA or militant BLM supporters.
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Well this went as expected.
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Another thread gets pitted up, some people just can't help themselves. :frown:
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Sad really
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Well this went as expected.
Sometimes Toto needs to be reminded that he IS in KS
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I know CK7 is a religious Fundy but how much? Obviously we know the whole not kissing his gf before marriage which can kind of be brushed away as cute and old fashioned but does he think humans and dinosaurs walked the earth together?
iirc he follows (followed?) a lot of alt right MAGA/nazi people on twitter. So do a lot of my family members probably though and I still love them for the things unrelated to that stuff.
So he follows (followed?) a lot of good-hearted, wholesome people that are the antithesis of nazi "people." It's not like he followed a bunch of brown-shirt like ANTIFA or militant BLM supporters.
Where were you Jan. 6, 2021?
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MR, very nicely put.
If you were single, a woman and looked exactly like Alyssa Milano, I'd marry you and buy you Cat season tickets on the 35 yard line (lower bowl).
Thanks, I'm gay tho. Does that work?
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MR, very nicely put.
If you were single, a woman and looked exactly like Alyssa Milano, I'd marry you and buy you Cat season tickets on the 35 yard line (lower bowl).
Thanks, I'm gay tho. Does that work?
Do you look like Allyssa Milano?
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I know CK7 is a religious Fundy but how much? Obviously we know the whole not kissing his gf before marriage which can kind of be brushed away as cute and old fashioned but does he think humans and dinosaurs walked the earth together?
iirc he follows (followed?) a lot of alt right MAGA/nazi people on twitter. So do a lot of my family members probably though and I still love them for the things unrelated to that stuff.
So he follows (followed?) a lot of good-hearted, wholesome people that are the antithesis of nazi "people." It's not like he followed a bunch of brown-shirt like ANTIFA or militant BLM supporters.
Where were you Jan. 6, 2021?
Watching the news about a protest in DC and seeing capital police escort some sightseeing mom-and-pop protesters into the capital building for some pictures and souvenirs.
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24 hours in and I hope that Collin Klein eats crap at aTm. Then I hope his wife leaves him for a televangelist preacher
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24 hours in and I hope that Collin Klein eats crap at aTm. Then I hope his wife leaves him for a televangelist preacher
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I don't see a timeline where he ends up the HC at KState. If he struggles, he'll get fired in a year or two. If he succeeds, he'll be up for other prime jobs before the other CK retires. Guess, maybe, he fails and ends up back here as the OC for a bit as the HCIW?
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lmao head coach at KSU? what the eff are you people even considering?
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I genuinely feel bad for anyone who thinks he will be the HC at KSU
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I will bet you $20 he is the HC of Liberty at some point in his life.
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I genuinely feel bad for anyone who thinks he will be the HC at KSU
co-head coach with venables?
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When will we find out the final dollar number of CK7's contract with ATM?
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When aTm doesn't win a natty in 3 years, they're going to fire the whole coaching staff again. Why would you want to coach at a middle-of-the-road school in the SEC, especially there?
Collin also crapped the bed when we played Texas so idk what Aggies think they're getting.
We took Texass to OT, tell me who else played them that close; not counting OU?
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Hope he takes Will with him and not Avery. :buh-bye:
You beat me to post this. CK is getting 2 million and will be able to hire staff and will be involved in recruiting. So he might grab Howard, but the only issue is he already has a 5-star QB at ATM.
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I just can not wrap my head around anyone voluntarily wanting to join a cult
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I just can not wrap my head around anyone voluntarily wanting to join a cult
agreed. I have no qualms whatsoever with Klein leaving the cats for other scenery. Being said, any person that voluntarily associates themselves with douche-cult Aggie is someone I can no longer think positively about in any fashion. It is not an acceptable institution for even partly respectable people.
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LOL, if we end up getting him as an HC, you'll be one of the first to bend your ass. :)
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If cultaggie offered me $2m/yr and a nice buyout I would be buying weird khaki outfits online right now.
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He didn't have what it took to continuing wearing the PURPLE and representing the Powercat.
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Ein Klein Rumspringa
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If cultaggie offered me $2m/yr and a nice buyout I would be buying weird khaki outfits online right now.
Yep. He'll have to worship the collie, but will probably get a pass from the jizz jar.
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Ein Klein Rumspringa
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If cultaggie offered me $2m/yr and a nice buyout I would be buying weird khaki outfits online right now.
Yep. He'll have to worship the collie, but will probably get a pass from the jizz jar.
They call those types 2 percenters.
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He didn't have what it took to continuing wearing the PURPLE and representing the Powercat.
now he’s Mr. Maroon
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It would be tasty to gloat in his demise 3 years from now but Collin is a winner so we won't get to do that.
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I'm not going to love rooting against A&M and LOLing at their failures any less than I ever have.
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If cultaggie offered me $2m/yr and a nice buyout I would be buying weird khaki outfits online right now.
I would have preferred whatever Notre Dame or Penn State offered.
$2million at cult aggie was a choice.
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He didn't have what it took to continuing wearing the PURPLE and representing the Powercat.
Well put
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If cultaggie offered me $2m/yr and a nice buyout I would be buying weird khaki outfits online right now.
I would have preferred whatever Notre Dame or Penn State offered.
$2million at cult aggie was a choice.
Totally agree
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Colin has shown his true colors and purple isn't one of them
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Colin has shown his true colors and purple isn't one of them
I noticed his wife came off that jet wearing maroon.
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Colin has shown his true colors and purple isn't one of them
I noticed his wife came off that jet wearing maroon.
she’s a maroon hearted traitor
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If cultaggie offered me $2m/yr and a nice buyout I would be buying weird khaki outfits online right now.
I would have preferred whatever Notre Dame or Penn State offered.
$2million at cult aggie was a choice.
Totally agree
Yeah no question I'd be golden doming my pants off rn
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Benedict Klein
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Benedict Klein
There it is.
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Heard we had the money to keep him here
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I honestly don't think we should or need to spend that kind of cash on a coordinator even for "legends".
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Collie Klein belongs at aTm
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I don't think collin klein brought anything unique or good to the OC role. Also he wasn't Klieman's guy so makes sense to push him out. just like forcing out sean snyder.
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Imagine being Klieman and you show up and are saddlebagged with a legacy rush.
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He is credited with delivering two dr peps and is a ksu legend for that and always will be. Mixed results as OC in 2023. glad he is getting an opportunity to secure an enormous bag from a bunch of weird freaks.
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He's no Mike Gundy that's for sure
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Imagine being Klieman and you show up and are saddlebagged with a legacy rush.
I didn’t really care for him as an oc but I don’t think it was that kind of a situation, but maybe ?
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Heard we had the money to keep him here
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1. We don't have $2 million for a coordinator, that's absurd. He was making less than $1: million even after he was talking with Notre Dame and Alabama.
2. We don't have the nil warchest they have
3. They are allowing him to hire his own staff
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CK creating some Texas recruiting connections may not be bad for us in the long run
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Heard we had the money to keep him here
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1. We don't have $2 million for a coordinator, that's absurd. He was making less than $1: million even after he was talking with Notre Dame and Alabama.
2. We don't have the nil warchest they have
3. They are allowing him to hire his own staff
lmao at collin's own staff
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My gawd it just never ends #frown
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Heard we had the money to keep him here
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1. We don't have $2 million for a coordinator, that's absurd. He was making less than $1: million even after he was talking with Notre Dame and Alabama.
2. We don't have the nil warchest they have
3. They are allowing him to hire his own staff
lmao at collin's own staff
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This would break the Squawks' heart. LMAO
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Heard we had the money to keep him here
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1. We don't have $2 million for a coordinator, that's absurd. He was making less than $1: million even after he was talking with Notre Dame and Alabama.
2. We don't have the nil warchest they have
3. They are allowing him to hire his own staff
Rumor the animal had the money to almost match (worked on it all that evening). CK prayed on it went to bed and decided it was time to leave the cats anyways
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Heard we had the money to keep him here
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1. We don't have $2 million for a coordinator, that's absurd. He was making less than $1: million even after he was talking with Notre Dame and Alabama.
2. We don't have the nil warchest they have
3. They are allowing him to hire his own staff
Rumor the animal had the money to almost match (worked on it all that evening). CK prayed on it went to bed and decided it was time to leave the cats anyways
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I have been watching some ATM podcasts and they are drooling all over CK. They are saying it's a better hire than Duke HC Mike Elko. They are hoping to keep him until 2030 because they expect to be in the playoffs most years and
win a few. They think after 2030 he'll get a top SEC HC job.
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I have been watching some ATM podcasts and they are drooling all over CK. They are saying it's a better hire than Duke HC Mike Elko. They are hoping to keep him until 2030 because they expect to be in the playoffs most years and
win a few. They think after 2030 he'll get a top SEC HC job.
Counterpoint: aTm fans are the most delusional people on Earth.
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The season they go the the first of their playoffs, CK should bounce to be an HC.
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Well, I don't think he'll stick around until 2030 whether he does good or bad.
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I have been watching some ATM podcasts and they are drooling all over CK. They are saying it's a better hire than Duke HC Mike Elko. They are hoping to keep him until 2030 because they expect to be in the playoffs most years and
win a few. They think after 2030 he'll get a top SEC HC job.
Counterpoint: aTm fans are the most delusional people on Earth.
Counter-counterpoint: I don’t have a counter-counterpoint you are 100% correct they are a bunch of deluded self-important weirdos. Like they really do think the entire country cares about aTm as much as they do. It’s really quite something.
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Heard we had the money to keep him here
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1. We don't have $2 million for a coordinator, that's absurd. He was making less than $1: million even after he was talking with Notre Dame and Alabama.
2. We don't have the nil warchest they have
3. They are allowing him to hire his own staff
Rumor the animal had the money to almost match (worked on it all that evening). CK prayed on it went to bed and decided it was time to leave the cats anyways
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FUPKS is a busy man
I forgot the gE nicknames!
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