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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: Stevesie60 on July 18, 2011, 07:58:18 AM
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Anyone ever tried it? I have a couple of friends who are personal trainers and they said it's way more effective that the 5-small-meals-a-day plan.
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i did it all the time when i was in college except i called it being broke.
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i don't really enjoy eating when i'm not hungry, so the eating five meals idea seems stupid, except for hummingbirds or shrews.
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i did it all the time when i was in college except i called it being broke.
:thumbs:
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i don't really enjoy eating when i'm not hungry, so the eating five meals idea seems stupid, except for hummingbirds or shrews.
It was stupid for a lot of reasons. But that's definitely one of the main ones.
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Seems like that would eff up your metabolism, mods?
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I fast but for religious reasons. No, I'm not a Christer ... I'm something else.
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Know a guy that fasts one day of the week, but he's old and does it for his digestive system
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yeah, eat stop eat by Brad Pilon
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Anyone ever tried it? I have a couple of friends who are personal trainers and they said it's way more effective that the 5-small-meals-a-day plan.
I know a guy that does it and loves it, says it gives him more strength. Is this info doing anything for you?
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Anyone ever tried it? I have a couple of friends who are personal trainers and they said it's way more effective that the 5-small-meals-a-day plan.
I know a guy that does it and loves it, says it gives him more strength. Is this info doing anything for you?
I was pretty set on doing it before I started this thread. But not hearing any anti-IF comments on here pretty much made it official. That and Saul's book/program suggestion (thanks Saul).
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yeah, eat stop eat by Brad Pilon
Yeah check out this guy. He's pretty much the authority on this argument. The whole idea of fasting is a calorie deficit. The cool thing about his fasting program is that it doesn't have to be all day. You could stop eating at 7 on tuesday then eat again at 7 on wed. It just has to be 24 hours. But the day before you fast you can eat almost whatever you want.
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yeah, eat stop eat by Brad Pilon
Yeah check out this guy. He's pretty much the authority on this argument. The whole idea of fasting is a calorie deficit. The cool thing about his fasting program is that it doesn't have to be all day. You could stop eating at 7 on tuesday then eat again at 7 on wed. It just has to be 24 hours. But the day before you fast you can eat almost whatever you want.
How often do you do the 24 hr fast?
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yeah, eat stop eat by Brad Pilon
Yeah check out this guy. He's pretty much the authority on this argument. The whole idea of fasting is a calorie deficit. The cool thing about his fasting program is that it doesn't have to be all day. You could stop eating at 7 on tuesday then eat again at 7 on wed. It just has to be 24 hours. But the day before you fast you can eat almost whatever you want.
How often do you do the 24 hr fast?
http://secretsofthehealthy.com/blog/eat-stop-eat-review-an-honest-review (http://secretsofthehealthy.com/blog/eat-stop-eat-review-an-honest-review)
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I eat one meal a day....right before bed
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I'm fascinated.
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sounds awful.
Ive wanted to try paleo for a while but don't think I could dedicate to doing it
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I fast but for religious reasons. No, I'm not a Christer ... I'm something else.
Well what are you then? A fff sympathizer?
If I were you I'd come clean before Pete tracks you down. His religious bigotry knows no bounds.
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Weight watchers is easy if you are not a picky eater. I'm interested in the dukan diet.
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Had to bump a bit. Every time I am skimming the subject lines, I get to this one and think it says something else. :eek:
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Anyone ever tried it? I have a couple of friends who are personal trainers and they said it's way more effective that the 5-small-meals-a-day plan.
Those are some dumbass personal trainers.
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Anyone ever tried it? I have a couple of friends who are personal trainers and they said it's way more effective that the 5-small-meals-a-day plan.
Those are some dumbass personal trainers.
What's your evidence?
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If you are going to try it, I recommend planning out exactly what you will eat for dinner at the time you break your fast. It is very easy to overeat after you haven't eaten in 24 hours.
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12 p.m to 12 p.m seems ideal to me, you get breakfast and lunch then you skip dinner sleep through the middle of it and miss breakfast but lunch isn't too far out
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overeat after you haven't eaten in 24 hours.
i thought that was the whole point?
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12 p.m to 12 p.m seems ideal to me, you get breakfast and lunch then you skip dinner sleep through the middle of it and miss breakfast but lunch isn't too far out
breakfast seems to light the fire for me, if I eat breakfast i'll be hungry again soon.
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12 p.m to 12 p.m seems ideal to me, you get breakfast and lunch then you skip dinner sleep through the middle of it and miss breakfast but lunch isn't too far out
This is what I was thinking. I rarely eat breakfast and can easily wait until lunch to eat again. Also, if I eat a meal at night, I am usually more hungry in the morning.
How many days between fasting is recommended?
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What are the benefits besides calorie defecit?
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If anyone is really serious about the eat stop eat ebook, pm me and I'll set you up with my canadian friend that none of you know, who may or may not send you a pdf with the ebook.
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exercise
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crunches
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thought the title of this thread was "intermittent fisting" and have avoided it like the plague
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Just finished, eat stop eat. Interesting. Will give it some thought and may try it.
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exercise
do both
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If anyone is really serious about the eat stop eat ebook, pm me and I'll set you up with my canadian friend that none of you know, who may or may not send you a pdf with the ebook.
Not sure if serious, but look for pm.
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exercise
do both
if by both you mean exercise and eat pretty healthy I agree. this fasting business just sounds Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
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What are the benefits besides calorie defecit?
Reduced blood glucose and insulin levels (markers of improved health)
Increased fatty acid oxidation
Maintenance of lean mass (muscle)
Reduced inflammation
Reduced oxidative damage
Increased cellular stress resistance (esp of heart and brain)
Decreased risks associated with degenerative diseases of aging (cancers, heart diseases, diabetes, Alzheimers)
http://www.theiflife.com/benefits-intermittent-fasting/ (http://www.theiflife.com/benefits-intermittent-fasting/)
fasting once in a while seems to offer many of the same benefits of calorie restriction – you know, stuff like increased longevity, neuroprotection, increased insulin sensitivity, stronger resistance to stress, some cool effects on endogenous hormone production, increased mental clarity, plus more
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/health-benefits-of-intermittent-fasting/ (http://www.marksdailyapple.com/health-benefits-of-intermittent-fasting/)
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What are the benefits besides calorie defecit?
Reduced blood glucose and insulin levels (markers of improved health)
Increased fatty acid oxidation
Maintenance of lean mass (muscle)
Reduced inflammation
Reduced oxidative damage
Increased cellular stress resistance (esp of heart and brain)
Decreased risks associated with degenerative diseases of aging (cancers, heart diseases, diabetes, Alzheimers)
http://www.theiflife.com/benefits-intermittent-fasting/ (http://www.theiflife.com/benefits-intermittent-fasting/)
fasting once in a while seems to offer many of the same benefits of calorie restriction – you know, stuff like increased longevity, neuroprotection, increased insulin sensitivity, stronger resistance to stress, some cool effects on endogenous hormone production, increased mental clarity, plus more
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/health-benefits-of-intermittent-fasting/ (http://www.marksdailyapple.com/health-benefits-of-intermittent-fasting/)
Have been looking at the Primal blog quite a bit today, really intriguing stuff.
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yeah stevesie pm me if you feel like going to a workout. (non-homo) would also be free 99 so thats a plus
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exercise
do both
if by both you mean exercise and eat pretty healthy I agree. this fasting business just sounds Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
eating healthy = fasting
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I haven't read any of this bullshit, but it sounds stupid. Less carbs, bros. That's it.
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This one doesn't sound like a fad. I bet it is the real deal.
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If you are going to try it, I recommend planning out exactly what you will eat for dinner at the time you break your fast. It is very easy to overeat after you haven't eaten in 24 hours.
I usually overeat having just eaten a couple hours ago.
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you guys are way off; TWO WORDS: JUICE DIET
Buy a one piece work-out outfit & a juicer then load up the fridge with fruit & veggies.
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So has anyone been doing this?
I decided to give it a trial run. I just finished one day (22 hours really) without eating. I'm not ripped yet like I had hoped, but considering doing it again. It wasn't all that hard.
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So has anyone been doing this?
I decided to give it a trial run. I just finished one day (22 hours really) without eating. I'm not ripped yet like I had hoped, but considering doing it again. It wasn't all that hard.
try roids. you will NOT! be disappointed.
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Wow. Well I'm definitely not typing up my diet/work out plan again.
:shakesfist: Saul.
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Wow. Well I'm definitely not typing up my diet/work out plan again.
:shakesfist: Saul.
oh come on you can type that up atleast
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Wow. Well I'm definitely not typing up my diet/work out plan again.
:shakesfist: Saul.
oh come on you can type that up atleast
You're right.
10-100 yd sprints, 6 days a week
Work out arms, legs, core (power cleans, dead lifts, hang cleans) 5 days a week.
Work out with yoga-like_abana once. That's all it takes.
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I'm going to force you to come back up there again.
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Wow. Well I'm definitely not typing up my diet/work out plan again.
:shakesfist: Saul.
oh come on you can type that up atleast
You're right.
10-100 yd sprints, 6 days a week
Work out arms, legs, core (power cleans, dead lifts, hang cleans) 5 days a week.
Work out with yoga-like_abana once. That's all it takes.
Sprints? are you training for 2012? :lol:
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Wow. Well I'm definitely not typing up my diet/work out plan again.
:shakesfist: Saul.
oh come on you can type that up atleast
You're right.
10-100 yd sprints, 6 days a week
Work out arms, legs, core (power cleans, dead lifts, hang cleans) 5 days a week.
Work out with yoga-like_abana once. That's all it takes.
Sprints? are you training for 2012? :lol:
University of New Mexico exercise physiology professor Len Kravitz calls this process excess post-oxygen consumption, or EPOC, noting that your body's metabolism is much higher after exercise than before, because it needs to consume oxygen at a higher rate of oxygen after exercise. Your body expends hundreds of calories to get itself back to its resting state. After a 15- to 20-minute session of sprint training, your body uses energy from fat to cool down, replenish nutrients in your cells and repair damaged tissues.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/273232-what-are-the-benefits-of-sprints-for-weight-loss/#ixzz1XngXiAc5 (http://www.livestrong.com/article/273232-what-are-the-benefits-of-sprints-for-weight-loss/#ixzz1XngXiAc5)
http://health-fitness-solutions.blogspot.com/2007/05/dont-just-run-sprint.html (http://health-fitness-solutions.blogspot.com/2007/05/dont-just-run-sprint.html)
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/par46.htm (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/par46.htm)
http://www.natural-remedies-world.com/exercise-for-health.html#axzz1Xnh44VAJ (http://www.natural-remedies-world.com/exercise-for-health.html#axzz1Xnh44VAJ)
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I do uphill speed jogs currently.
Swimming seems like a good way to exercise.
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Wow. Well I'm definitely not typing up my diet/work out plan again.
:shakesfist: Saul.
oh come on you can type that up atleast
You're right.
10-100 yd sprints, 6 days a week
Work out arms, legs, core (power cleans, dead lifts, hang cleans) 5 days a week.
Work out with yoga-like_abana once. That's all it takes.
Sprints? are you training for 2012? :lol:
University of New Mexico exercise physiology professor Len Kravitz calls this process excess post-oxygen consumption, or EPOC, noting that your body's metabolism is much higher after exercise than before, because it needs to consume oxygen at a higher rate of oxygen after exercise. Your body expends hundreds of calories to get itself back to its resting state. After a 15- to 20-minute session of sprint training, your body uses energy from fat to cool down, replenish nutrients in your cells and repair damaged tissues.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/273232-what-are-the-benefits-of-sprints-for-weight-loss/#ixzz1XngXiAc5 (http://www.livestrong.com/article/273232-what-are-the-benefits-of-sprints-for-weight-loss/#ixzz1XngXiAc5)
http://health-fitness-solutions.blogspot.com/2007/05/dont-just-run-sprint.html (http://health-fitness-solutions.blogspot.com/2007/05/dont-just-run-sprint.html)
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/par46.htm (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/par46.htm)
http://www.natural-remedies-world.com/exercise-for-health.html#axzz1Xnh44VAJ (http://www.natural-remedies-world.com/exercise-for-health.html#axzz1Xnh44VAJ)
Seems like basically they are just re-stating everything about interval training but applying it specifically to sprinting.
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I do uphill speed jogs currently.
Swimming seems like a good way to exercise.
Would love to find a place for swimming. That has to be the best full body workout in existence.
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tabata
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I workout less than 5 hours a week and am in the best shape of my life, eating the right foods is like 95% of the battle.
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I workout less than 5 hours a week and am in the best shape of my life, eating the right foods is like 95% of the battle.
To maintain, you only need one or the other.
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Eating right does not get you in shape, at all. Working out is 99% of the battle to be in shape. Of course, having a six pack and being in shape a 2 very different things.
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University of New Mexico exercise physiology professor Len Kravitz calls this process excess post-oxygen consumption, or EPOC, noting that your body's metabolism is much higher after exercise than before, because it needs to consume oxygen at a higher rate of oxygen after exercise. Your body expends hundreds of calories to get itself back to its resting state. After a 15- to 20-minute session of sprint training, your body uses energy from fat to cool down, replenish nutrients in your cells and repair damaged tissues.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvideokeman.com%2Fimage%2Fpics%2FLennyKravitzsongPics1KHDNX3afpy41nM.jpg&hash=881319f1a9cf334f4e412a391d9f2be4717a62f6)
:surprised:
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University of New Mexico exercise physiology professor Len Kravitz calls this process excess post-oxygen consumption, or EPOC, noting that your body's metabolism is much higher after exercise than before, because it needs to consume oxygen at a higher rate of oxygen after exercise. Your body expends hundreds of calories to get itself back to its resting state. After a 15- to 20-minute session of sprint training, your body uses energy from fat to cool down, replenish nutrients in your cells and repair damaged tissues.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvideokeman.com%2Fimage%2Fpics%2FLennyKravitzsongPics1KHDNX3afpy41nM.jpg&hash=881319f1a9cf334f4e412a391d9f2be4717a62f6)
:surprised:
Now we know how he got that 6 pack. And those pythons.
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I workout less than 5 hours a week and am in the best shape of my life, eating the right foods is like 95% of the battle.
This.
Would you rather go run a couple miles and burn 150-250 calories (varies of course) or just lower your portion of dinner/stop eating out/eat healthier. You might be a little hungry in the beginning couple of days, but your body adjusts. No plan needed, just count calories, eat less to lose weight.
If your trying for cardiovascular health, then you need to exercise.
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Eating right does not get you in shape, at all. Working out is 99% of the battle to be in shape. Of course, having a six pack and being in shape a 2 very different things.
Keep sucking down a 12 pack of glazed donuts and pounding your knees uphill into the pavement lemmy :lol:
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Wow. Well I'm definitely not typing up my diet/work out plan again.
:shakesfist: Saul.
oh come on you can type that up atleast
You're right.
10-100 yd sprints, 6 days a week
Work out arms, legs, core (power cleans, dead lifts, hang cleans) 5 days a week.
Work out with yoga-like_abana once. That's all it takes.
Sprints? are you training for 2012? :lol:
University of New Mexico exercise physiology professor Len Kravitz calls this process excess post-oxygen consumption, or EPOC, noting that your body's metabolism is much higher after exercise than before, because it needs to consume oxygen at a higher rate of oxygen after exercise. Your body expends hundreds of calories to get itself back to its resting state. After a 15- to 20-minute session of sprint training, your body uses energy from fat to cool down, replenish nutrients in your cells and repair damaged tissues.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/273232-what-are-the-benefits-of-sprints-for-weight-loss/#ixzz1XngXiAc5 (http://www.livestrong.com/article/273232-what-are-the-benefits-of-sprints-for-weight-loss/#ixzz1XngXiAc5)
http://health-fitness-solutions.blogspot.com/2007/05/dont-just-run-sprint.html (http://health-fitness-solutions.blogspot.com/2007/05/dont-just-run-sprint.html)
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/par46.htm (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/par46.htm)
http://www.natural-remedies-world.com/exercise-for-health.html#axzz1Xnh44VAJ (http://www.natural-remedies-world.com/exercise-for-health.html#axzz1Xnh44VAJ)
Seems like basically they are just re-stating everything about interval training but applying it specifically to sprinting.
Yeah, it's the same theory as HIIT.
And eating right is at least 90% of the battle. A 750 cal workout is a pretty hard workout (for referance you'd have to jog about 6 miles to burn 750 cals). Eat one double quarter pounder with cheese from McDonalds and you've evened it out. God only knows how much I can pack away at a chinese buffet.
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EPOC kicks in more after weight lifting.
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University of New Mexico exercise physiology professor Len Kravitz calls this process excess post-oxygen consumption, or EPOC, noting that your body's metabolism is much higher after exercise than before, because it needs to consume oxygen at a higher rate of oxygen after exercise. Your body expends hundreds of calories to get itself back to its resting state. After a 15- to 20-minute session of sprint training, your body uses energy from fat to cool down, replenish nutrients in your cells and repair damaged tissues.
[/quote]Do you play American Women in the back ground to your workout? I guess Lenny Kravitz is pretty thin so you may have something there but who know in his spare time he was a professor?
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University of New Mexico exercise physiology professor Len Kravitz calls this process excess post-oxygen consumption, or EPOC, noting that your body's metabolism is much higher after exercise than before, because it needs to consume oxygen at a higher rate of oxygen after exercise. Your body expends hundreds of calories to get itself back to its resting state. After a 15- to 20-minute session of sprint training, your body uses energy from fat to cool down, replenish nutrients in your cells and repair damaged tissues.
Do you play American Women in the back ground to your workout? I guess Lenny Kravitz is pretty thin so you may have something there but who know in his spare time he was a professor?
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:dubious:
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University of New Mexico exercise physiology professor Len Kravitz calls this process excess post-oxygen consumption, or EPOC, noting that your body's metabolism is much higher after exercise than before, because it needs to consume oxygen at a higher rate of oxygen after exercise. Your body expends hundreds of calories to get itself back to its resting state. After a 15- to 20-minute session of sprint training, your body uses energy from fat to cool down, replenish nutrients in your cells and repair damaged tissues.
Do you play American Women in the back ground to your workout? I guess Lenny Kravitz is pretty thin so you may have something there but who know in his spare time he was a professor?
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So you missed Trim's post where he made the exact same joke?
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Yes I replied without scrolling down to the end and seeing if he made the same joke.
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I workout less than 5 hours a week and am in the best shape of my life, eating the right foods is like 95% of the battle.
This.
Would you rather go run a couple miles and burn 150-250 calories (varies of course) or just lower your portion of dinner/stop eating out/eat healthier. You might be a little hungry in the beginning couple of days, but your body adjusts. No plan needed, just count calories, eat less to lose weight.
If your trying for cardiovascular health, then you need to exercise.
If you really want results, you have to do both.
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good genes
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I do uphill speed jogs currently.
Swimming seems like a good way to exercise.
Would love to find a place for swimming. That has to be the best full body workout in existence.
Sex, bro. Sex.
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I do uphill speed jogs currently.
Swimming seems like a good way to exercise.
Would love to find a place for swimming. That has to be the best full body workout in existence.
Sex, bro. Sex.
sex in a swimming pool
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I do uphill speed jogs currently.
Swimming seems like a good way to exercise.
Would love to find a place for swimming. That has to be the best full body workout in existence.
Sex, bro. Sex.
sex in a swimming pool
while benching 350
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I do uphill speed jogs currently.
Swimming seems like a good way to exercise.
Would love to find a place for swimming. That has to be the best full body workout in existence.
Sex, bro. Sex.
sex in a swimming pool
while benching 350
and intermittent fasting
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I do uphill speed jogs currently.
Swimming seems like a good way to exercise.
Would love to find a place for swimming. That has to be the best full body workout in existence.
Sex, bro. Sex.
sex in a swimming pool
Don't cripples do exercises in pools early in the therapy process? Yes, they do. Therefore sex >>* sex in swiming pool.
*- in this case >> denotes level of physical exersion required to do a real bang up job
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I do uphill speed jogs currently.
Swimming seems like a good way to exercise.
Would love to find a place for swimming. That has to be the best full body workout in existence.
Sex, bro. Sex.
sex in a swimming pool
while benching 350
and intermittent fasting
roids
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I skipped lunch and am about to die. Feel like a crack addict. Shaky, anxious, etc.
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Am I the only one making a link btwn this thread and Hemmy not being able to stay awake during the day?
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Lol @ hemmy ever missing a meal
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stevesie come back anytime. go cats
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stevesie come back anytime. go cats
Can't on Saturdays. Can't afford weekdays. Quite the conundrum. Also, hate long distance running. It's hard and stupid. Love sprints, though.
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stevesie come back anytime. go cats
Can't on Saturdays. Can't afford weekdays. Quite the conundrum. Also, hate long distance running. It's hard and stupid. Love sprints, though.
yeah we dont ever do long distance running. like ever. blame that on stunts
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I'm fasting and it hurts.
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Anyone ever tried it? I have a couple of friends who are personal trainers and they said it's way more effective that the 5-small-meals-a-day plan.
I just read a book that finally convinced me, just because the guy had a ton of solid stuff to back up every claim. One 24-hour fast a week is the plan for now.
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Anyone ever tried it? I have a couple of friends who are personal trainers and they said it's way more effective that the 5-small-meals-a-day plan.
I just read a book that finally convinced me, just because the guy had a ton of solid stuff to back up every claim. One 24-hour fast a week is the plan for now.
You'll see results fairly quickly, probably after a month. That's been my experience, at least.
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when is your fast?
like lunch to lunch or breakfast to breakfast?
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I usually try to do a 36 hour fast so dinner, next full day, then do a late breakfast/lunch the day after that.
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I usually try to do a 36 hour fast so dinner, next full day, then do a late breakfast/lunch the day after that.
holy smokes
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This sounds awful.
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Man, 'lotta people made fun of me in this thread. Life is rough.
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when is your fast?
like lunch to lunch or breakfast to breakfast?
Right now I'm doing last night at 8 pm 'till tonight at 8 pm. I've never done a 24-hour fast before but that's what seems to be recommended the most. I'm doing one 24-hour fast a week instead of the 8-hour eating window thing that everyone used to do.
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I usually try to do a 36 hour fast so dinner, next full day, then do a late breakfast/lunch the day after that.
holy smokes
There's evidence that up to 48 hours is healthy, even for weightlifters. Most people take bcaa's while they fast, if they are worried about muscle loss.
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This sounds awful.
It's really not that bad. Caffeine and lots of water help a lot. Also picking a day when you have busy work to do is a good plan. It's a good mental exercise as well.
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unleashing after 36 hours of no food, i would probably implode the whole pizza ranch building
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unleashing after 36 hours of no food, i would probably implode the whole pizza ranch building
whatever saul said about having a plan is probably really important
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Plus, tonight at 8 or 9 pm me and the gf are going to pound about 2,500 delicious calories. And it tastes better than any meal ever.
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unleashing after 36 hours of no food, i would probably implode the whole pizza ranch building
Ok seriously though this is the best part; pretty much anything tastes good after a fast. A piece of lettuce will rock your world.
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I usually try to do a 36 hour fast so dinner, next full day, then do a late breakfast/lunch the day after that.
How often do you do it?
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I usually try to do a 36 hour fast so dinner, next full day, then do a late breakfast/lunch the day after that.
How often do you do it?
When I'm cutting I do it once a week.
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I usually try to do a 36 hour fast so dinner, next full day, then do a late breakfast/lunch the day after that.
How often do you do it?
When I'm cutting I do it once a week.
bcaa's?
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Yes, during and after workouts.
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I usually try to do a 36 hour fast so dinner, next full day, then do a late breakfast/lunch the day after that.
I've done this twice a week but gave it up when playoff baseball / football season started. It was actually pretty easy...I did like 300-500 calories on my fasting days.
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I usually try to do a 36 hour fast so dinner, next full day, then do a late breakfast/lunch the day after that.
I've done this twice a week but gave it up when playoff baseball / football season started. It was actually pretty easy...I did like 300-500 calories on my fasting days.
how do you figure 300-500 cals is fasting?
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I can't drink on an empty stomach.Maybe I'll just try shitting more. Do you think that would give similar results?
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Kinda disappointed in myself for using "Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)"
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I usually try to do a 36 hour fast so dinner, next full day, then do a late breakfast/lunch the day after that.
I've done this twice a week but gave it up when playoff baseball / football season started. It was actually pretty easy...I did like 300-500 calories on my fasting days.
how do you figure 300-500 cals is fasting?
:dunno: it's the 5/2 plan that I read. Complete fasting seemed too :Bonk:
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I usually try to do a 36 hour fast so dinner, next full day, then do a late breakfast/lunch the day after that.
I've done this twice a week but gave it up when playoff baseball / football season started. It was actually pretty easy...I did like 300-500 calories on my fasting days.
how do you figure 300-500 cals is fasting?
:dunno: it's the 5/2 plan that I read. Complete fasting seemed too :Bonk:
If you're going to put yourself through that, I figure you might as well go all the way. Most of the more exciting/controversial side effects occur from your blood sugar hitting rock bottom for hours at a time, i.e. GH spike, utilization of fat for energy.
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I fasted my ass off in college b/c I was really poor and couldn't afford food
now I fast just b/c eating is a pain in the ass
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Fasting without being fat adapted is rough.
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Fasting without being fat adapted is rough.
wut does that mean
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I fasted tonight, only had a few hundred calories #lifeinthefastlane
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if you're really hungry just pound a few ice cold brews and you won't be hungry anymore. until a little bit later and then you'll be more hungry. so maybe save the brew-dog strategy for the last couple hours of the fast to get you to the finish line.
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starving yourself is really dumb.
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When I was really fat my sophomore year of high school, I fasted hard core for a month. I lost like 30 lbs and looked like a ghost, but I was finally at the weight I needed to be for baseball and girls finally started talking to me. :gocho: :Woot:
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When I was really fat my sophomore year of high school, I fasted hard core for a month. I lost like 30 lbs and looked like a ghost, but I was finally at the weight I needed to be for baseball and girls finally started talking to me. :gocho: :Woot:
Fasted for a month, holy cow!
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Some of you guys really need to watch naked and afraid.
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lesson: if you guys are gonna be serious about baseball and talking to girls, don't eat for 30 days, ready BREAK!
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lesson: if you guys are gonna be serious about baseball and talking to girls, don't eat for 30 days, ready BREAK!
I was 15, dork, but yes, stop eating fat asses.
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lesson: if you guys are gonna be serious about baseball and talking to girls, don't eat for 30 days, ready BREAK!
I was 15, dork, but yes, stop eating fat asses.
Well if you were eating fat asses maybe you should have just starting eat more healthy instead.
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One day last week I only ate two meals and right before bed I thought I may be dying from starvation. Does that count as a fast?
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One day last week I only ate two meals and right before bed I thought I may be dying from starvation. Does that count as a fast?
Well if you fast for 24 hours (8pm to 8pm) and eat dinner at 7pm the first day and 8:01 pm the second day, then you are only missing 1 breakfast & 1 lunch and do most people even eat breakfast on a weekday (I don't)? So I think what you did is the same thing.
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I eat breakfast every day, and most days I eat twice before lunch.
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lesson: if you guys are gonna be serious about baseball and talking to girls, don't eat for 30 days, ready BREAK!
I was 15, dork, but yes, stop eating fat asses.
sounds like you were a real fat ass, dork, bud, pal
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Not eating breakfast is dumb too.
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Not eating breakfast is dumb too.
I rather sleep in. :zzz:
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Not eating breakfast is dumb too.
I rather sleep in. :zzz:
Well, don't bitch about being skinny-fat then.
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Not eating breakfast is dumb too.
I'd rather sleep than take the time to prepare breakfast.
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Not eating breakfast is dumb too.
I rather sleep in. :zzz:
Well, don't bitch about being skinny-fat then.
I'm not. I workout. :D
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Not eating breakfast is dumb too.
I rather sleep in. :zzz:
Well, don't bitch about being skinny-fat then.
I'm not. I workout. :D
Pfftt... :lol:
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:shakesfist:
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Not eating breakfast is dumb too.
I'd rather sleep than take the time to prepare breakfast.
It takes about a minute to prepare oatmeal and stick it in the microwave, while it's cooking you can do something else. I'd rather sleep is an awful excuse.
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To be fair, Ms. Wacky makes me these sausage egg cupcakes to go sometimes. They're pretty tasty and pretty damn good for you too. I had never heard of such a thing.
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i don't eat breakfast because i'm not hungry at the time
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:shakesfist:
I'm just giving you crap, but I have seen you post about having a hard time reaching your physical goals. Your metabolism is a function of your physical activity level, the food you eat (quality and quantity) and the frequency at which you eat. Skipping breakfast is not ideal.
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:shakesfist:
I'm just giving you crap, but I have seen you post about having a hard time reaching your physical goals. Your metabolism is a function of your physical activity level, the food you eat (quality and quantity) and the frequency at which you eat. Skipping breakfast is not ideal.
I know. :D And I agree. I need to get back into my grove. I've let sports affect my diet too much lately. I use to do the 5 smaller meals a day thing and focus on the protein side of things. Fortunately, kickball is done in a few weeks and I can get back to my normal routine at the gym/diet.
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I prepare and eat breakfast at work #efficiency
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I prepare and eat breakfast at work #efficiency
I actually do that sometimes (because I am not hungry until then) but it has been a long time since I did...because that involves planning ahead of time by bringing the food to work.
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just eat a bunch of bananas for breakfast. that's what i do and i can basically talk to any girl i want to.
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Not eating breakfast is dumb too.
I'd rather sleep than take the time to prepare breakfast.
It takes about a minute to prepare oatmeal and stick it in the microwave, while it's cooking you can do something else. I'd rather sleep is an awful excuse.
OK, it is more about the fact that I don't plan ahead of time and buy the types of things that I could cook really quick and Gooch doesn't buy them when he goes grocery shopping. :shakesfist:
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Heard about this from a 60 year old guy. Him and his wife eat 500 calories two days per week and said they have been feeling great and have lost over 20 pounds each doing it (and they are not completely out of shape to begin with).
Basically like controlled anorexia, right?
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Actually, the studies that showed how important it was to eat breakfast are now being challenged, and with success. Not only were they poorly done, and done many years ago, new studies are showing the opposite. The idea of jump starting your metabolism with calories (in oppose to physical activity) is pretty silly. Even the idea of metabolism is something we don't really understand. That's why the idea of small meals every 3 hours is laughable, because no matter how many calories you eat in one sitting you're going to use 10% of them for digestion, whether those 2500 calories come all at once or in a bunch of small meals throughout the day.
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Actually, the studies that showed how important it was to eat breakfast are now being challenged, and with success. Not only were they poorly done, and done many years ago, new studies are showing the opposite. The idea of jump starting your metabolism with calories (in oppose to physical activity) is pretty silly. Even the idea of metabolism is something we don't really understand. That's why the idea of small meals every 3 hours is laughable, because no matter how many calories you eat in one sitting you're going to use 10% of them for digestion, whether those 2500 calories come all at once or in a bunch of small meals throughout the day.
Let me know how your fasted cardio helps with your strength gains...
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I prefer eating several small meals throughout the day because being hungry sucks and this way it's like I never stop eating.
Also, eating too much in one sitting tends to make me tired, especially at lunch.
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Actually, the studies that showed how important it was to eat breakfast are now being challenged, and with success. Not only were they poorly done, and done many years ago, new studies are showing the opposite. The idea of jump starting your metabolism with calories (in oppose to physical activity) is pretty silly. Even the idea of metabolism is something we don't really understand. That's why the idea of small meals every 3 hours is laughable, because no matter how many calories you eat in one sitting you're going to use 10% of them for digestion, whether those 2500 calories come all at once or in a bunch of small meals throughout the day.
Let me know how your fasted cardio helps with your strength gains...
I said it was for cutting.
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Heard about this from a 60 year old guy. Him and his wife eat 500 calories two days per week and said they have been feeling great and have lost over 20 pounds each doing it (and they are not completely out of shape to begin with).
Basically like controlled anorexia, right?
Yeah, that's not what this is. I don't lose weight, nor is that the goal. If I wanted to lose weight, it would be pretty rough ridin' simple; eat a few less calories than I burn each day. Boom, I'm losing weight.
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Actually, the studies that showed how important it was to eat breakfast are now being challenged, and with success. Not only were they poorly done, and done many years ago, new studies are showing the opposite. The idea of jump starting your metabolism with calories (in oppose to physical activity) is pretty silly. Even the idea of metabolism is something we don't really understand. That's why the idea of small meals every 3 hours is laughable, because no matter how many calories you eat in one sitting you're going to use 10% of them for digestion, whether those 2500 calories come all at once or in a bunch of small meals throughout the day.
Look who thinks he knows more than the pioneering researchers at the Kellogg's Institute. :jeffy:
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Heard about this from a 60 year old guy. Him and his wife eat 500 calories two days per week and said they have been feeling great and have lost over 20 pounds each doing it (and they are not completely out of shape to begin with).
Basically like controlled anorexia, right?
Yeah, that's not what this is. I don't lose weight, nor is that the goal. If I wanted to lose weight, it would be pretty rough ridin' simple; eat a few less calories than I burn each day. Boom, I'm losing weight.
Not sure where the hostility is from. I understand caloric balance. I was just explaining an experience of intermittent fasting that I heard and their results compared to traditional weight loss ideas.. I could care less about your goal.
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Actually, the studies that showed how important it was to eat breakfast are now being challenged, and with success. Not only were they poorly done, and done many years ago, new studies are showing the opposite.
link? (not challenging/questioning, I'd just like to read it.)
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Heard about this from a 60 year old guy. Him and his wife eat 500 calories two days per week and said they have been feeling great and have lost over 20 pounds each doing it (and they are not completely out of shape to begin with).
Basically like controlled anorexia, right?
What did they typically eat on their 500 calorie days?
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Heard about this from a 60 year old guy. Him and his wife eat 500 calories two days per week and said they have been feeling great and have lost over 20 pounds each doing it (and they are not completely out of shape to begin with).
Basically like controlled anorexia, right?
What did they typically eat on their 500 calorie days?
Not sure, didn't ask. Offered the guy a beer and he said no and went on explaining why.
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digestion is very hard on your body, the less you do if it, the better
i eat two meals a day, lunch (medium size meal) and dinner (small meal). sometimes i stop by chick fil a for a breakfast every now and then
and i'm rough ridin' ripped to the point that i have to cut my t-shirt arm holes because they cut the circulation off to my arms #namaste
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Heard about this from a 60 year old guy. Him and his wife eat 500 calories two days per week and said they have been feeling great and have lost over 20 pounds each doing it (and they are not completely out of shape to begin with).
Basically like controlled anorexia, right?
Yeah, that's not what this is. I don't lose weight, nor is that the goal. If I wanted to lose weight, it would be pretty rough ridin' simple; eat a few less calories than I burn each day. Boom, I'm losing weight.
Not sure where the hostility is from. I understand caloric balance. I was just explaining an experience of intermittent fasting that I heard and their results compared to traditional weight loss ideas.. I could care less about your goal.
No hostility buddy. I just get a little fired up about this stuff
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Actually, the studies that showed how important it was to eat breakfast are now being challenged, and with success. Not only were they poorly done, and done many years ago, new studies are showing the opposite.
link? (not challenging/questioning, I'd just like to read it.)
I don't think skipping a healthy breakfast is good for you, I think that the things being pushed as breakfast foods are bad for you. Sugary cereal, bacon, sausage, biscuits and gravy, pancakes, waffles, etc. I think studies are now showing that it really doesn't have much of an effect (skipping or not), with the assumption being that you're eating something healthy to start your day.
I know Cracked is more of a comedy site than anything, but this is a good starting point. I had stayed skinny easiest during the time in my life in which I skipped breakfast, so I always thought it was true. Not to mention, when I was trying to lose weight and my wife was trying to gain weight we were both told to do the "lots of small meals in a day" method, so I knew it was flawed. When I read this on Cracked I started investigating more. Here's the Cracked link with a couple others.
http://www.cracked.com/article_19296_6-lies-about-human-body-you-learned-in-kindergarten_p6.html
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/10/myths-surround-breakfast-and-weight/
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/22/health/breakfast-myths/
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Amoint of calories and quality of calories is by far the most important thing. Time of day, frequency, these things don't matter nearly as much as we thought. I could link a million things but it would be easier if everyone just trusted me.
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I should have said composition of those calories instead of quality
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benja, as the topic expert, does not need to link stuff for me to trust him on these things
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benja, as the topic expert, does not need to link stuff for me to trust him on these things
:party:
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I once had an involuntary 70+ hour fast after losing my gear (including food) on a whitewater canoe trip. Found a Sonic after we got off the river, and it was the most heavenly meal I've ever had, but still could not finish a shake, burger, and fries without feeling really sick.
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Actually, the studies that showed how important it was to eat breakfast are now being challenged, and with success. Not only were they poorly done, and done many years ago, new studies are showing the opposite. The idea of jump starting your metabolism with calories (in oppose to physical activity) is pretty silly. Even the idea of metabolism is something we don't really understand. That's why the idea of small meals every 3 hours is laughable, because no matter how many calories you eat in one sitting you're going to use 10% of them for digestion, whether those 2500 calories come all at once or in a bunch of small meals throughout the day.
Let me know how your fasted cardio helps with your strength gains...
I said it was for cutting.
You're so emo
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I once had an involuntary 70+ hour fast after losing my gear (including food) on a whitewater canoe trip. Found a Sonic after we got off the river, and it was the most heavenly meal I've ever had, but still could not finish a shake, burger, and fries without feeling really sick.
Didn't you have friends that had food as well?
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Not eating breakfast is dumb too.
I rather sleep in. :zzz:
Well, don't bitch about being skinny-fat then.
I'm not. I workout(side). :D
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giving this a go, basically just not eating until noon every day and then stopping by 8 pm, so, 16-8.
i'm intrigued by all the bad ass benefits i keep reading/watching about. biggest challenge is making it work with my exercise schedule, because i'd like to avoid working out then not having any calories for hours afterward.
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giving this a go, basically just not eating until noon every day and then stopping by 8 pm, so, 16-8.
i'm intrigued by all the bad ass benefits i keep reading/watching about. biggest challenge is making it work with my exercise schedule, because i'd like to avoid working out then not having any calories for hours afterward.
You are doing it every day?
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giving this a go, basically just not eating until noon every day and then stopping by 8 pm, so, 16-8.
i'm intrigued by all the bad ass benefits i keep reading/watching about. biggest challenge is making it work with my exercise schedule, because i'd like to avoid working out then not having any calories for hours afterward.
This is pretty much how I've operated for as long as I can remember. It's just skipping breakfast.
I did a 48 hour fast last spring. Now that was interesting.
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You are doing it every day?
right now, yes. if it's good enough for terry crews it's good enough for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW_99QcCTzE
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW_99QcCTzE)
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I did a 48 hour fast last spring. Now that was interesting.
did it hurt?
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I did a 48 hour fast last spring. Now that was interesting.
did it hurt?
It didn't hurt really. After about the first half day I didn't really feel all that hungry anymore. Stomach stopped growling, etc. I thought about food for literally 48 hours straigtht, however. Waking up after not eating dinner and knowing that you weren't going to be eating at all that day was weirdly depressing.
It was more of a mental challenge than a physical one.
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Last spring I did 2 days a week of only like 100 calories. Wasn't too bad but didn't seem to change anything.
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So did you guys just pound water all day or was that forbidden too?
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giving this a go, basically just not eating until noon every day and then stopping by 8 pm, so, 16-8.
i'm intrigued by all the bad ass benefits i keep reading/watching about. biggest challenge is making it work with my exercise schedule, because i'd like to avoid working out then not having any calories for hours afterward.
This is pretty much how I've operated for as long as I can remember. It's just skipping breakfast.
same. it's great. breakfast, despite what the government has lied to us about, is not the most important meal of the day, especially so when you consider what people shove in their pie holes in the morning and call breakfast.
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So did you guys just pound water all day or was that forbidden too?
I did this recently and you gotta drink lots of water. First, you are already getting less water that you would normally get from food. It also helps a lot with hunger and keeping your body functioning right.
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Fasts are great, it’s pretty crazy how easy and plentiful food has become in modern society that people will literally meltdown if they have to go more than 4 hours without food.
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So did you guys just pound water all day or was that forbidden too?
I did this recently and you gotta drink lots of water. First, you are already getting less water that you would normally get from food. It also helps a lot with hunger and keeping your body functioning right.
Flavoring the water helped (limes and such)
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i pound water and coffee pretty hard from 8 am to noon.
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I always assumed the whole "eat a good breakfast" was so that you weren't starving for lunch time and go out and eat a giant cheeseburger.
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the more breakfast I eat the more cheeseburgers I want at lunch
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Two meals a day is the life.
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I haven't had breakfast since like the 8th grade.
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+1
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I’ve recently started eating breakfast again. I have to say, it’s great. :party:
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breakfast makes me feel bloated and fat! I don’t like it! yuck!
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If I stick to eggs and toast, I feel great. Pancakes and too much sausage or bacon makes me feel pretty bloated, though.
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i have never liked eating breakfast and only felt pressured to do so by the "most important meal of the day" nonsense, or the occasional desire to eat 790 grams of sugar.
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No sugar in the 2 fried eggs I ate this morning.
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I have never regularly eaten breakfast and seldom at after 8 pm but i guess i wouldn't call that fasting.
I have been doing IF for about 8 months and have seen some pretty good results. Two days a week i have what i call my "lean days" i stick to under 500 calories for the whole day, less if possible. I pretty much just eat vegetables with little to no oil. A normal meal on those days is usually a big (4 serving size) bag of frozen veggies: broccoli, green beans, carrots. If I forget to bring a lunch i get two veggie sides at the cafeteria though they generally do dress them up with a little oil or any kind of vegetable soup. Really i mostly focus on calorie density, aiming for under 10 cal/ounce.
It an a few inches off my belly and waist and I lost 15 lbs pretty quick doing (10 first 3 months, 1/mo since) though i'm sort of at a plateau right now. My blood pressure also dropped 20 points over that 8 month period, which was the bigger driver for the change.
I really like it, the rest of the week i eat normally and i think that helps get through the lean days.
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i started fasting for the first time 2 days ago for 16+ hours each night, and legit lifted heavier today. it could be something else, recently started creatine, but i also didn't sleep well last night. also have plateaued/declined recently. is it a thing for gains to come this quick when fasting?
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I don't think there is any scientific reason that fasting would increase strength or energy levels but I'm guessing at least someone here would disagree with me. Maybe just a mental boost? Or the creatine?
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It's just about staying hungry, according to my gym bros.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR1FCJS8DoM
legit?
I don't think there is any scientific reason that fasting would increase strength or energy levels but I'm guessing at least someone here would disagree with me. Maybe just a mental boost? Or the creatine?
said to increase testosterone. (https://www.anabolicmen.com/intermittent-fasting-testosterone/) but didn't think it would be that noticeable.
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I’m sure it’s possible to see gains while fasting, I just don’t see how it could be better than eating responsibly. I’ve watched one or two Netflix docs on strongmen (not bodybuilders) and they all basically eat until they’re sick.
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As a resident strongman I can confirm that eating until you are sick can help but eating responsibly yields better long term results.
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the idea would be getting all your calories during your eating window and fasting for the testosterone boost. that guy just takes it to an extreme level, and i'm skeptical. i think there's something to it but i'm very skeptical that 1200 calories is enough
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1200 isn’t enough
the point is to limit how much stress that you put you body through during ingestion
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I could see fasting providing an "energy boost" Its the inverse of being sleepy when you've had a big meal. I know i can actually have problems winding down at night on my lean days
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I enjoy breakfast too much. I have cut back though. I just have two eggs and maybe a slice of turkey only. As others have said, IF is great, but it is just a way to lower your calorie count for the day/week. There is no magic eating window or other BS people try to tell you. Skipping a meal makes you eat less calories and that is pretty much it. It is possible to have gainz while on a fast, but man it would be tough. I've been on a pretty good deficit for a month or so and some days are pretty tough at the gym. Going to look super sexy for pool season though.. :party:
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A lot of the benefit is that you aren’t in a state of continually digesting food. Your body can do other cellular repair etc because it’s not devoting it’s energy to processing the Big Mac you slogged back an hour ago.
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A lot of the benefit is that you aren’t in a state of continually digesting food. Your body can do other cellular repair etc because it’s not devoting it’s energy to processing the Big Mac you slogged back an hour ago.
Is this bro or real science?
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I enjoy breakfast too much. I have cut back though. I just have two eggs and maybe a slice of turkey only. As others have said, IF is great, but it is just a way to lower your calorie count for the day/week. There is no magic eating window or other BS people try to tell you. Skipping a meal makes you eat less calories and that is pretty much it. It is possible to have gainz while on a fast, but man it would be tough. I've been on a pretty good deficit for a month or so and some days are pretty tough at the gym. Going to look super sexy for pool season though.. :party:
https://www.anabolicmen.com/intermittent-fasting-testosterone/
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I’ve done it
It works
It’s not hard
I would eat all my calories for the day 1800-2100 in one meal, the meal always followed that days workout.
I would eat Monday 8am, Tuesday at 2pm, Wednesday at 8pm, Thursday no food. And repeat the cycle.
The one meal should have the optimum % of protein, carb, and fat.
I would lose 3/4 lb. per cycle while maintaining muscle mass.
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A lot of the benefit is that you aren’t in a state of continually digesting food. Your body can do other cellular repair etc because it’s not devoting it’s energy to processing the Big Mac you slogged back an hour ago.
Is this bro or real science?
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IF is completely bro science. like anything else, it's just a means to CICO
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I’ve done it
It works
It’s not hard
I would eat all my calories for the day 1800-2100 in one meal, the meal always followed that days workout.
I would eat Monday 8am, Tuesday at 2pm, Wednesday at 8pm, Thursday no food. And repeat the cycle.
The one meal should have the optimum % of protein, carb, and fat.
I would lose 3/4 lb. per cycle while maintaining muscle mass.
:horrorsurprise:
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A lot of the benefit is that you aren’t in a state of continually digesting food. Your body can do other cellular repair etc because it’s not devoting it’s energy to processing the Big Mac you slogged back an hour ago.
Is this bro or real science?
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IF is completely bro science. like anything else, it's just a means to CICO
So, I shouldn't be worried about getting a tumor because my body is too distracted by digesting food? My cellies can do more than one thing at a time? What a relief...
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Yes totally bro science, not backed by any scientific studies. I just made it all up actually.
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by all means, show me the studies. everything i've ever read says that when you eat doesn't matter. only what you eat and how much.
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Not to derail this discussion, but: "Breakfast jumpstarts your metabolism" <-- true or untrue? I've always suspected "bullshit".
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Basically bullshit.
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Yes totally bro science, not backed by any scientific studies. I just made it all up actually.
In an interview for The Scientist magazine, Varady says that intermittent diets work not because of some speculative evolutionary adaptation or complicated genetic/molecular mechanism, but “it’s just tricking your mind and body into eating less, and because you’re losing weight, you’re getting all the metabolic benefits.” In other words, better compliance through mind tricks, although her JAMA study actually said that it “did not produce superior adherence”.
https://thedoctorweighsin.com/what-science-has-to-say-about-intermittent-fasting/ (https://thedoctorweighsin.com/what-science-has-to-say-about-intermittent-fasting/)
It's just CICO, man. It's all just CICO.
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testosterone and growth hormone boost, true or untrue?
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I may have overstated with regard to wetwillie, and for that I apologize. I know next to nothing about how hormones work. I was talking strictly about weightloss.
I don't have an answer for you stunted. I poked around and a lot of muscle head bloggers swear by it, so possibly!
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wolves are always intermittently fasting. most of the dominant predators do it. whereas herbivores run around stuffing their fat faces all day long.
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Yes totally bro science, not backed by any scientific studies. I just made it all up actually.
You seem to do this quite often with many topics.
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Sort of off topic, but I saw something recently about fasting (not intermittent, like 2+ days) helping people respond significantly better to chemo. They think it’s because when your body goes into starvation mode, the normal cells have some built in reflex to protect themselves while cancer cells don’t.
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All that I have had to eat in the last 48 hours is sargentos cheese sticks, Buffalo wild wings and ice cream and water. I hate open house
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i'm fully aware its just CICO, i just think IF is an easier way to manage CICO.
Versus the impact trying to limit my intake on every meal, every day of the week, i just pick 2 days where i essentially fast. I still get about 400 calories jut for comfort but after having done it a while i could honestly probably just do a fast. I also eat a big breakfast the next day, so i even over eat the days following my lean days. But the whole principle is the math works out: 1+0.25+1.25+0.25+1.25+1+1 = 6 So in a 7 day period i have the calorie intake of 6 days of normal eating.
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A lot of the benefit is that you aren’t in a state of continually digesting food. Your body can do other cellular repair etc because it’s not devoting it’s energy to processing the Big Mac you slogged back an hour ago.
Is this bro or real science?
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IF is completely bro science. like anything else, it's just a means to CICO
I'm not sure if it is completely bro science, but yes, it always comes down to CICO. It amazes me that bazillions are made just by adding buzzwords, to "don't eat so much fatass". I guess people just need things like this to motivate them. They can say, "I'm on Adkins, Paleo, IF, etc.." and that makes them feel better I guess.
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Does CICO essentially espouse all calories are equal or am I wrong in that thought?
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I am glad that Dlew presents a healthy skepticism on most topics, it’s really one of his greatest strengths as a poster IMO. I would definitely welcome his or anyone’s thoughts on the subject. I think the fact that the 2016 Nobel Prize in Medicine being awarded to Yoshinori Ohsumi for his work on autophagy elevates the benefits of IF and fasting in general out of the ‘Bro Science’ realm.
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That's the most elegant shade I've ever seen thrown on this blog.
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nicki minaj could learn a thing or two from wetwillie
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Does CICO essentially espouse all calories are equal or am I wrong in that thought?
They are all equal.
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Does CICO essentially espouse all calories are equal or am I wrong in that thought?
They are all equal.
definitely agree that CICO is the most important factor, by far.
but i imagine eating 2000 calories of sugar every day vs eating 2000 calories of meat/broccoli every day is going to lead to very different results in terms of body composition and overall health, which would indicate to me that all calories are in fact not equal.
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Yes agree with this. This overlaps with a post from the swolecats thread, but a KSU professor showed he could lose weight on a diet with the vast majority of calories coming from twinkies. As far as CICO is concerned, they are all the same.
The rub is that if all calories come from something like alcohol or sugar (“empty calories”), your body is not getting the nutrients it needs to survive and it knows it. So at best you’re going to feel more hungry than if you consume nutrient dense calories, but really you’d end up having some serious health issues over the long term if you don’t diversify your diet.
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37 hours in. planned to do 36 but kind of just riding the wave with water and coffee today. i never thought i could ever go a full day without eating but my experience is about the same as everyone i've ever heard describe it... it's not that bad. yesterday evening was a little difficult at times but constant water and tea definitely makes it easier. i'm intrigued by the reported benefits of fasting so wondering if this could be a routine habit.
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37 hours in. planned to do 36 but kind of just riding the wave with water and coffee today. i never thought i could ever go a full day without eating but my experience is about the same as everyone i've ever heard describe it... it's not that bad. yesterday evening was a little difficult at times but constant water and tea definitely makes it easier. i'm intrigued by the reported benefits of fasting so wondering if this could be a routine habit.
It’s the best way to shed fat. Don’t have to go crazy. Often it’s as easy as giving yourself a 4-8 hours window in which you’re allowed to eat. You’ll probably grub the crap out of food when you eat, but it’s fine. You fill up fast on an empty stomach.
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Autophogy is bro science
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Calories in/calories out you idiots
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Calories in/calories out you idiots
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IF is a great aid in this.
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Now that it seems generally accepted among drs and nutritionists, IF is pretty appealing to me as someone who doesn’t like bothering with morning breakfasts most days.
My question for experienced IF-ers is this: does anyone work out in the morning and if so do you still do a protein shake immediately after or do you wait until noon or whatever to have anything at all?
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You’d think it would bother you but it honestly won’t. Just don’t have any caffeine or very little.
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You’d think it would bother you but it honestly won’t. Just don’t have any caffeine or very little.
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But does it negatively impact gainz is what I’m really asking.
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You’d think it would bother you but it honestly won’t. Just don’t have any caffeine or very little.
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But does it negatively impact gainz is what I’m really asking.
By not having the protein shake? I think I've read that having the protein shake right after isn't necessary. I've seen some say you need to have one within like 20 minutes of working out for "optimal" whatever, but its most likely just marketing by big protein. I can't work out in the mornings and it would prob be hard for me not to have one right after working out. More of a habit, but I almost crave it right after.