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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: treysolid on January 26, 2010, 07:54:40 AM
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Angel continuing to do work.
Krop 73, American 46 - KROP: Davis 3, Guisarry 10, George 14, Rodriguez 15, Dahari 8, Barber 6, Thomas 11, Cesaire 3, Haughton 3. AM: Williams 1, Bivins 31, Joy 6, Bellinger 7, Bueno 1. Halftime: KROP 44-26. Three-pointers: Davis, Guisarry 2, George 3, Rodriguez 4, Dahari, Cesaire, Bellinger. Rebounds: Thomas 11. Assists: Rodriguez 9. Steals: Guisarry 5.
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I couldn't find a single box score in any newspaper that detailed the Krop-Dr. Phillips battle b/w Angel and Larkin, so i went bbsing:
http://breakdownmagazine.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=11&post=9382 (http://breakdownmagazine.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=11&post=9382)
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Do we know where Nino is going to prepschool? Any chance that he blows up at prep school and ditches us?
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Do we know where Nino is going to prepschool? Any chance that he blows up at prep school and ditches us?
There is always this possibility. We Are K-State!
in other news, Spradling and his merry band of retards managed to whip MHS to a pulp in the last game of the TOC.
MANHATTAN (3-6)
Zach Nelson 5-7 0-0 13, Connor Brooks 2-5 0-0 4, Trey Francis 0-2 0-0 0, Alec Giambrone 0-2 0-0 0, Deante Burton 0-0 1-2 1, Tyler Francis 0-2 0-0 0, A.J. Stitt 1-5 0-0 3, Ryan Wilkinson 0-3 2-3 2, John Perbeck 0-0 0-1 0, Will Kern 1-3 0-0 2, Trey Connet 0-2 0-0 0. Totals 11-36 5-9 31.
SM SOUTH (6-4)
Will Spradling 3-13 7-7 13, Nick Weber 0-0 1-2 1, Jake Reid 5-7 0-0 13, Alex Moyer 0-3 2-2 2, Andrew Winkler 0-0 0-0 0, Rayner Fredrick 1-1 1-1 3, Luke Bergner 1-3 0-0 2, Brandon Stacker 6-8 2-4 14, Tim Rodden 1-1 1-1 3, Dylan Christie 2-3 0-0 4, Karlton Hodch 0-0 0-0 0. Totals 19-39 14-18 55.
Manhattan 11 5 4 11 — 31
SM South 6 16 6 27 — 55
Three-point goals — Manhattan 4-12 (Nelson 3-3, Stitt 1-4, Brooks 0-2, Francis 0-1, Giambrone 0-1, Payne 0-1); South 3-12 (Reid 3-5, Moyer 0-3, Spradling 0-3, Bergner 0-1). Total fouls — Manhattan 13, South 12. Fouled out — None. Rebounds — South 29 (Spradling 6, Stacker 5); Manhattan 23 (Francis 5, Brooks 3). Assists — South 8 (Spradling 3); Manhattan 6 (Giambrone 2, Stitt 2). Steals — South 6 (Reid 3); Manhattan 4 (Nelson, Giambrone, Wilkinson, Connet); Turnovers —
Blocked shots — South 1 (Spradling); Manhattan 1 (Kern).
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Spradling had 23 points last night in leading SMS to a win over SMW.
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Sprads had 25 points as SMS beat SMN last night, 65-40.
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Sprads had 25 points as SMS beat SMN last night, 65-40.
Sooo, it sounds like Sprads only scores when he has to. Their team is that good? Accurate assessment?
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Sprads had 25 points as SMS beat SMN last night, 65-40.
Sooo, it sounds like Sprads only scores when he has to. Their team is that good? Accurate assessment?
Their team is dogshit
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His team is dogshit
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Sprads had 25 points as SMS beat SMN last night, 65-40.
Sooo, it sounds like Sprads only scores when he has to. Their team is that good? Accurate assessment?
Their team is dogshit
yeah, i guess 8-4 isn't the best.
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a late boxscore
GMAC quarterfinals -- Krop 61, South Dade 40 - SD (15-5): Garcia 7, Price 12, Birts 6, Morrow 4, Jenkins 1, Miller 4, Hampton 4, Hernandez 2. KROP (20-3): Davis 9, Guisarry 13, Rodriguez 13, Dahari 9, Thomas 5, Kelly 4, Haughton 4, Karrell 2, Barber 2. Halftime: KROP 31-27. Three-pointers: Davis 3, Guisarry 3, Rodriguez, Dahari, Price 2. Rebounds: Guisarry 7. Assists: Guisarry 5. Steals: Guisarry 5.
couldn't find a boxscore for their semifinal game, but Krop is playing in the finals tonight.
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C_Manbeck
K-State signee Will Spradling scored 40 points tonight against the No. 2 team in the state, Olathe South.
less than a minute ago from web
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Would be VERY surprised if Angel Rodriguez doesn't end up at K-State.
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Olathe south has no D1 prospects or anything close to one.
FWIW
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Would be VERY surprised if Angel Rodriguez doesn't end up at K-State.
Would be ecstatic about that. Any specifics Cole? Fell free to PM.
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Have been told that Rodriguez plays the game with multiple speeds. He's not like Clemente, and that's not a knock on Denis. He just changes gears more, doesn't always play fast. I believe I've said it before on here, but Rodriguez has drawn comparisons to J.J. Barea's game. Long way to go for that obviously. Just initial projections at this point.
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Have been told that Rodriguez plays the game with multiple speeds. He's not like Clemente, and that's not a knock on Denis. He just changes gears more, doesn't always play fast. I believe I've said it before on here, but Rodriguez has drawn comparisons to J.J. Barea's game. Long way to go for that obviously. Just initial projections at this point.
Great, but does this mean he is coming to KSU?
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good game for spradling.
http://www.theolathenews.com/103/story/643756.html
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Southwell garners more Akeem Wright comparo's
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/southwell_offensive_outburst_leads_e2D0DH4gI5EAG9H2QaZFjP
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Nino with 17 in loss
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/1730573.html
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Angel with 18 in loss plus
both Coach Shakey Rodriguez and guard Angel Rodriguez received technical fouls
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/high-schools/story/1466014.html
I guess I was not aware that Shaky was his high school coach. If the kid goes anywhere else we either didn't want him or should just turn out the lights
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Angel with 18 in loss plus
both Coach Shakey Rodriguez and guard Angel Rodriguez received technical fouls
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/high-schools/story/1466014.html
I guess I was not aware that Shaky was his high school coach. If the kid goes anywhere else we either didn't want him or should just turn out the lights
Way too much going for K-State not to get him. Shakey and Art, two of Frank's best friends, are his coaches (Tropics and Krop). And K-State wants him. Offer extended.
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good game for spradling.
http://www.theolathenews.com/103/story/643756.html
Presented his McDonald's All-American nominee certificate before the game, Spradling scored 24 of SM South's 31 points, shooting nine for 11 from the field and connecting on all four three-point tries, as the Raiders built a six-point halftime lead.
Do they hand these out fairly readily :dunno:
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http://twitpic.com/11op0z
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http://twitpic.com/11op0z
Next Steve Henson right there....
I hope everyone still has the calendars clear for next Friday's Nino/Will Pakr', SMS @ Leavenworth, 2-12-10 7pm.
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On McD's nominees; yes they are fairly common. IIRC, Joe Leonard was a McD nominee.
Yes, really.
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Angel with 18 in loss plus
both Coach Shakey Rodriguez and guard Angel Rodriguez received technical fouls
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/high-schools/story/1466014.html
He is the best player in Dade county. The only way anyone can cover him is by holding him.
he should get out of dade county. doesn't seem like a good place to play bball.
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Flock has a thread on their board discussing whether Sprads is "ku worthy" or not.
Kid can absolutely shoot. The Martin-Greenawalt meat-grinder will either turn him into an asset or send him to the Valley. I'm guessing it's the former, hence the flock saying he wouldn't be a good fit there ... which of course indicts Self's talent development even further. :lol:
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they seem to hold the view that he is much smaller than morningstar. including posters that seem to have seen him play. is his rivals height a complete fabrication? he is listed as considerably shorter on espn and scout.
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he's not as tall at Morningstar is, but then again he's not 25 yrs old like Morningstar is either
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he's not as tall at Morningstar is, but then again he's not 25 yrs old like Morningstar is either
I wonder if he is a virulent racist like people have said of Brady Morningstar?
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they seem to hold the view that he is much smaller than morningstar. including posters that seem to have seen him play. is his rivals height a complete fabrication? he is listed as considerably shorter on espn and scout.
i've stood next to young William and I would say that he's between 6'1" and 6'2" with shoes on. IDK how tall morningstar is.
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IDK how tall morningstar is.
morningstar is listed at 6'3". rivals lists spradling at 6'3" too. sucks that he's smaller.
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Hawktards are :runaway: over Sprads wondering why KU didn't look at him. They have a nice 3 page thread talking about him. They are :ohno:
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hopefully Sprads is still growing
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hopefully Sprads is still growing
if he is done growing he'll prob just be like Ty Lawson or Sherron Collins or something similar
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talked to one of O South's coaches and said that they put everyone on him and he was just drilling shots over everyone.
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If he is a Brady Morningstar'esque shooter and provides the same level of D in a slightly shorter package I'll be happy as sh1t. Frank will probably force him to transfer though given the shooting and whatnot.
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hopefully Sprads is still growing
if he is done growing he'll prob just be like Ty Lawson or Sherron Collins or something similar
i don't think he'll have to wait to his senior year though to grab nationwide headlines with his amazing shooting in clutch situations.
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Wondered why Nino Williams was not in box last night in loss to Olathe East - it turns out he turned ankle in first 30 seconds. XRays today.
might want to reconsider the spradling-williams friday pak.
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Wondered why Nino Williams was not in box last night in loss to Olathe East - it turns out he turned ankle in first 30 seconds. XRays today.
might want to reconsider the spradling-williams friday pak.
They could sign his cast. (assuming the worst) :dunno:
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Wondered why Nino Williams was not in box last night in loss to Olathe East - it turns out he turned ankle in first 30 seconds. XRays today.
might want to reconsider the spradling-williams friday pak.
That's a hell of an interesting box score and bullshit story considering Nino scored 24 and was in 2 of the 3 pictures from the game taken by the Olathe Daily news.
http://www.theolathenews.com/103/story/344726.html (http://www.theolathenews.com/103/story/344726.html)
Lots of action for him apparenlty in that first 30 seconds. :jerk:
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That's a hell of an interesting box score and bullshit story considering Nino scored 24 and was in 2 of the 3 pictures from the game taken by the Olathe Daily news.
http://www.theolathenews.com/103/story/344726.html (http://www.theolathenews.com/103/story/344726.html)
Lots of action for him apparenlty in that first 30 seconds. :jerk:
:eek:
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Talked to a friend of mine who played Spearville this week. Willie Cauley ('12 'cruit) who we have offered is on that team. Said he had 16 and 16 and gets most of his points off of o-boards but has a nice mid-range game too.
Bear in mind he goes to a 2A school playing other 2A schools. :flush:
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Talked to a friend of mine who played Spearville this week. Willie Cauley ('12 'cruit) who we have offered is on that team. Said he had 16 and 16 and gets most of his points off of o-boards but has a nice mid-range game too.
Bear in mind he goes to a 2A school playing other 2A schools. :flush:
steve dave used to dominate that 2A school on that 2A court when he played for another better smelling 2A school an hour up stream.
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Talked to a friend of mine who played Spearville this week. Willie Cauley ('12 'cruit) who we have offered is on that team. Said he had 16 and 16 and gets most of his points off of o-boards but has a nice mid-range game too.
Bear in mind he goes to a 2A school playing other 2A schools. :flush:
What AAU team is he on?
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Talked to a friend of mine who played Spearville this week. Willie Cauley ('12 'cruit) who we have offered is on that team. Said he had 16 and 16 and gets most of his points off of o-boards but has a nice mid-range game too.
Bear in mind he goes to a 2A school playing other 2A schools. :flush:
What AAU team is he on?
spiece mokan.
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Talked to a friend of mine who played Spearville this week. Willie Cauley ('12 'cruit) who we have offered is on that team. Said he had 16 and 16 and gets most of his points off of o-boards but has a nice mid-range game too.
Bear in mind he goes to a 2A school playing other 2A schools. :flush:
steve dave used to dominate that 2A school on that 2A court when he played for another better smelling 2A school an hour up stream.
My school just went up to 3A :frown:
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Wondered why Nino Williams was not in box last night in loss to Olathe East - it turns out he turned ankle in first 30 seconds. XRays today.
might want to reconsider the spradling-williams friday pak.
Did we miss it or is it next friday?
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Wondered why Nino Williams was not in box last night in loss to Olathe East - it turns out he turned ankle in first 30 seconds. XRays today.
might want to reconsider the spradling-williams friday pak.
Did we miss it or is it next friday?
Missed it. SMS upset Leavenworth. Haven't seen a box score.
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Wondered why Nino Williams was not in box last night in loss to Olathe East - it turns out he turned ankle in first 30 seconds. XRays today.
might want to reconsider the spradling-williams friday pak.
Did we miss it or is it next friday?
Missed it. SMS upset Leavenworth. Haven't seen a box score.
Atta kids. I played at SMS from 01-05. Its good to see someone from there coming to K-State
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Wondered why Nino Williams was not in box last night in loss to Olathe East - it turns out he turned ankle in first 30 seconds. XRays today.
might want to reconsider the spradling-williams friday pak.
Did we miss it or is it next friday?
Missed it. SMS upset Leavenworth. Haven't seen a box score.
http://varsity.kansascity.com/custom/game&t=box&game_id=6742
Hasn't played in the last few games...Was hoping to catch Williams tomorrow night at OLNorth but no idea if he's gonna be back or not.
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Nino is indeed injured. I guess the Olathe News from last week was the one full of bullshit and not SYS's source. I suck.
I'm going over to SMS to watch Spradling tomorrow night. I'll post any updates and maybe a pic if I can get a decent one w/ my elite iPhone.
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Nino is indeed injured. I guess the Olathe News from last week was the one full of bullshit and not SYS's source. I suck.
don't blame yourself. kcprephoops is very good. he was the first one to sniff out michigancat, for example.
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Nino is indeed injured. I guess the Olathe News from last week was the one full of bullshit and not SYS's source. I suck.
don't blame yourself. kcprephoops is very good. he was the first one to sniff out michigancat, for example.
I emailed him, and he let me back in the circle. :love:
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I emailed him, and he let me back in the circle. :love:
did he explain why he banned you to start with. :bwpopcorn:
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I emailed him, and he let me back in the circle. :love:
did he explain why he banned you to start with. :bwpopcorn:
My guess is MICat's twitter account kinda looks like it could be spam
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I guess is MICat's twitter account kinda looks like it could be spam
heh. "good music? wtf do i care about good music?"
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naw, he said it was a mistake or something. :dunno:
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Nino finally returned last night against olathe north and scored 24 in a 2pt win.
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Watched Spradling last night and he had a quiet 31 points against a shitty but inspired Lawrence team. SMS runs no offense. They spread the floor, let Will penetrate, kick, and curl/rebound. They should have lost the game. Will has a great stroke. This is just my opinion but I see him being a spot up shooter type like Reed/Morningstar without their defensive ability. He won't be able to stay in front of most D1 PGs. He has to put on about 15 to 20 lbs of muscle and turn into a driveway shooter. That's going to be his role if I had to guess at this point. He isn't quick enough to create his own shot.
It wouldn't surprise me if he was a perpetual bench player ala C Merrs...
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Every coach dreams of his team starting a playoff game the way Krop's boys did Thursday night against Hialeah.
The Lightning played near-perfect basketball for the first four minutes of the first quarter, and handled the visiting Thoroughbreds 64-25 in a Region 4-6A quarterfinal at the Lightning gym.
Krop took a 21-2 lead, connecting on five three-pointers during the stretch and never led by fewer than 14 points the rest of the way.
``It was great to see that early on, because it helped us get the starters some rest,'' Krop coach Shakey Rodriguez said.
The Lightning advanced to the regional semifinals Tuesday when it will host Coral Gables at 7 p.m. in a rematch of the GMAC tournament final won by Gables two weeks ago.
Hialeah (18-7) made its first appearance in the regional playoffs since 1968.
In addition to Krop's sharp-shooting, it was able to nullify Hialeah forward Shawn Jones' ability to impact the game by driving to the basket and getting him in foul trouble early.
Krop forward Joe Thomas scored 10 points and defended Jones most of the time. Jones, who entered the game averaging 23.3 points and 14.3 rebounds, was held to five points and fouled out in the third quarter.
After that, Krop's lead reached 35 points prompting a running clock for the remainder of the game. The Lightning led by as many as 40.
Krop made seven three-pointers. Guard Eddie Guissary had a game-high 18 points, and guard Angel Rodriguez finished with 14 points, five assists and five steals.
• HIA (18-7): Wilkins 3, Pierre 5, Spence 2, Jones 5, Jackson 5, Abdul-Kareem 5. KR (24-4): Davis 9, Guissary 18, Rodriguez 14, Dahari 3, Thomas 10, Nagar 1, Fabian 2, Kelly 1, Barber 5, Haughton 1. Halftime: K 44-16. Technicals: HIA coach. Fouled out: Jones, Jackson. Three-pointers: Davis 2, Guissary 2, Rodriguez 2, Dahari. Rebounds: Barber 6. Assists: Rodriguez 5. Steals: Rodriguez 5.
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In a matchup between two top-10 teams in Kansas 6A on Friday night, the No. 7 Leavenworth boys’ basketball team couldn’t quite match up with the size of No. 10 Shawnee Mission Northwest, and a 17-6 second-quarter run by the Cougars led to a 59-42 road loss for the Pioneers.
Northwest’s 6-foot-8 senior Steve Carver scored 23 points, and the Pioneers (12-6, 5-4 Sunflower League) had trouble attacking the basket against the Cougars’ zone and only got the free-throw line for two makes in four attempts on the night.
“We didn’t get it inside hardly at all. They’re big,” Pioneer head coach Larry Hogan said. “Their starting lineup goes 6’8”, 6’6”, 6’4”, 6’2”, 6’0” ... and the number of fouls just indicated that we really didn’t attack the basket as much. We settled for a lot of jump shots, and quite truthfully we didn’t make them.
“We didn’t take care of the ball, we didn’t attack the zone, and we definitely didn’t make shots.”
Northwest (12-6, 6-3 in the Sunflower League) led virtually throughout. Leavenworth came out in man-to-man defense and trailed 16-11 at the end of the first quarter, but Hogan said they were still in the game until they switched to a zone and Northwest got hot from the perimeter. They finished the game with five 3-pointers — three by Trey Freuhling and two by Navid Rafizadeh — and they led 33-17 at halftime.
“At the end of the first quarter we were right there,” Hogan said. “I’m thinking, ‘We’re going to be OK.’ But like I said, we didn’t play well at either end of the floor ... and we went to a zone, and then they lit it up in the second quarter.”
Northwest extended the lead to 48-30 heading at the end of the third, and Hogan said they led by double-digits the entire second half.
“We whittled it down, maybe got (the margin) to 11 or 12, but never got it to single digits,” Hogan said.
Northwest finished the game 8-for-10 from the free-throw line.
The Pioneers finished the game with six 3-pointers — two by Nino Williams, two by Kyle Wiggins, and one apiece by Jarrid Dean and Preston Padgett — but it wasn’t enough. Williams, who will play his college ball at Kansas State, was held to 14 points after missing games last week with an ankle injury.
“He’s had some stiffness in his back, and of course we’ve got both ankles taped up pretty heavy...” Hogan said. “He was probably feeling some of the soreness that I think a lot of the guys were feeling from it being the third game this week.”
Dean finished with seven points. Wiggins and Dougherty each had six. Grant Greenberg had five, Padgett had three, and Sam Brundy had one.
The Pioneers will play again Tuesday when they have another Sunflower League match, this time at Lawrence.
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Spradling had 15 last night in SMS's 50-42 win over SMW>
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Went and saw Nino play against SMNW friday night. Mixed impression, though I'm pretty sure this was an "off" game for him. hit some nice 3's, but also airballed a few (has decent jumpshooting mechanics). Leavenworth was getting their ass beat for most of the night and he generally did not play real hard offensively or defensively (their whole team didnt play much def) I really couldnt figure out wtf Leavenworth does on offense, they really should run more through Williams as he's clearly the best shooter/dribble driver on the team. Anyway Nino def has a D-1 body and athleticism (had a nice block pinning one against the glass) but he needs someone like Frank to get his motor going. Reminded me most of Sutton, which i'm sure surprises no-one. A friend of mine coaches at Free State and has said Nino is the best he's seen this year in the KC area. I wish I could have caught him on a better night and seen it myself.
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good report, andy.
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Always love to see this mentality with a team:
evenge is a dish Krop couldn't wait to serve Coral Gables.
The Lightning routed the visiting Cavaliers 74-43 on Tuesday night in a Region 4-6A semifinal, avenging their loss to the Cavaliers in the GMAC final two weeks ago.
Krop (25-4), which will play host to Columbus in Saturday's Region 4-6A final, built an 11-0 lead in the first four minutes and added to it as the quarter progressed.
Lightning coach Shakey Rodriguez said his team came out with a lot of enthusiasm and energy.
``I think we came out with too much energy early,'' Rodriguez said. ``We really wanted to come out and play hard and I think our guys did well.''
Krop chose to go inside to 6-7 senior center Joe Thomas, who ended the first half with seven points and seven rebounds. Benefiting from Thomas' inside play were guards Corey Davis and John Dahari. Davis and Dahari each hit two three-pointers in the first half and finished with 11 points apiece.
Thomas had a double-double with 10 rebounds and 10 points.
Coral Gables (21-6) struggled to get on track, shooting 3 of 19 from the field in the first quarter. Cavaliers junior center Jonathan Holton, who was the catalyst in Gables' GMAC upset over Krop, settled for many long jumpers and finished with five points on 2-for-17 shooting but grabbed 15 rebounds.
Coral Gables was able to rally late in the second quarter, going on an 11-0 run to cut Krop's lead to four with just over two minutes to play in the half and only trailed 30-24 at halftime.
Krop dominated the third quarter, going on a 20-6 run in the first five minutes. Junior guard Angel Rodriguez led the surge, scoring 12 of his game-high 24 points during the run. Gables committed 13 second-half turnovers and only shot 28 percent from the field.
CG (21-6): X. Cruz 15, Quintana 8, Holton 5, Corriette 2, Caballero 2, Waiters 3, Bridge 6, Villareal 2. KRO (25-4): Davis 11, Rodriguez 24, Dahari 11, Thomas 10, Haughton 2, Kelly 2, Henley 2, Cesaire 3. Halftime: KRO 30-24. Fouled out: Quintana, Waiters. Three pointers: X. Cruz, Holton, Waiter, Davis 3, Rodriguez 4, George 2, Dahari 2, Cesaire. Rebounds: Thomas 10. Assists: Thomas 3. Steals: Guisarry 2.
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Kansas Report:
Nino scored 15 points in a win against Lawrence
Will score 17 points in a win against Olathe East
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. Rice (18-5) (3)
The Raiders rebounded from an embarrassing loss to St. Patrick’s (N.J.) in the Primetime Shootout to handily defeat Archbishop Molloy back at Gauchos Gym in The Bronx on Tuesday to close out the regular season. Kadeem Jack and Jermaine Sanders received CHSAA all-league nods, but not Shane Southwell. Will this serve as motivation for the Kansas State-bound senior?
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can't find an article or box yet, but krop beat columbus 79-63 to advance to the state semifinals against dr. phillips (shane larkin). rodriguez tricoche had 39.
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NYCHoops ranked Southwell #4 player in NYC. Has a write-up/eval included. Would love to know what it says. :users:
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NYCHoops ranked Southwell #4 player in NYC. Has a write-up/eval included. Would love to know what it says. :users:
says that he's tall, passes well, can't shoot, can't guard small guards, was overranked.
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krop to state story.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/02/28/1505049/rodriguez-powers-krop-past-columbus.html
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krop to state story.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/02/28/1505049/rodriguez-powers-krop-past-columbus.html
what the eff do we have to do to get video of angel?
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Really kind of embarrassed for this staff and the recruits they're bringing in . . . I wonder when Wooly is going to pop out of the cake neck brace and all. At this juncture Hill should be charged with about 5 counts of felony fraud.
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Really kind of embarrassed for this staff and the recruits they're bringing in . . . I wonder when Wooly is going to pop out of the cake neck brace and all. At this juncture Hill should be charged with about 5 counts of felony fraud.
I heard Spradling was legit. K-State can definitely use another good shooter with Clemente leaving. You guys are going to be stacked next year:
PG - Pullen
SG - McGruder
SF - Sutton
PF - Kelly
C - Asprilla
PG - Irving
SG - Spradling
SF - Samuels
PF - Judge
C - Henriquez
That is a deep, talented team.
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I am looking beyond next year.
Spradling might be pretty good, but from what I've seen he's going to have be attached to Scott Greenwalt's hip otherwise he's going to be a complete defensive liability. I hear the Cloud coach is telling people that Asprilla (sp?) is the real deal . . . but I'll believe it when I see it.
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<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Terrified of our 3 point shooting next year.
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<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Terrified of our 3 point shooting next year.
and ball handling. But yeah, did you read the Big 12 coaches blind quotes? Will only be worse next year. :embarrassed:
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If I could change one of Frank's Frankisms it would be his absolute hatred of shooters
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If I could change one of Frank's Frankisms it would be his absolute hatred of shooters
This is a KSUFans/goEMAW myth. Stems from Rusty who gets irritated when Frank won't recruit some unatheletic driveway shooter he gets a crush on.
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If I could change one of Frank's Frankisms it would be his absolute hatred of shooters
This is a KSUFans/goEMAW myth. Stems from Rusty who gets irritated when Frank won't recruit some unatheletic driveway shooter he gets a crush on.
I like to think I had a small part in starting and nurturing this myth as well :curse:
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If I could change one of Frank's Frankisms it would be his absolute hatred of shooters
This is a KSUFans/goEMAW myth. Stems from Rusty who gets irritated when Frank won't recruit some unatheletic driveway shooter he gets a crush on.
Chris Babb! :lol: <-can go into the "dumb things I said last year" thread (although he might have been better than Awaji - he could have been browned if needed)
But seriously, Frank doesn't value shooting much (especially if it gives up athleticism). I've accepted it and moved on, because he's shown he can coach some damn good offense without great shooters.
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how do we explain Sprads, then?
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how do we explain Sprads, then?
I'm waiting to try to until I see what kind of PT he gets....
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how do we explain Sprads, then?
we couldn't get the athletic guards we wanted, obviously.
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how do we explain Sprads, then?
we couldn't get the athletic guards we wanted, obviously.
I hope he misses every FT he shoots at ksu.
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martin likes shooters. he just doesn't feel like he needs as many on the court at one time as michigancat does.
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martin likes shooters. he just doesn't feel like he needs as many on the court at one time as michigancat does.
Yeah. And he doesn't like shooters that only can shoot.
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Let's put it this way - if Frank has a choice between a guy that can get to the rim and can't shoot to a shooter that can't (assuming everything else is the same), he'll take the guy that can get to the rim every time. If he has to fill his last scholarship with a driveway shooter or a 6-9 stiff, he'll take the 6-9 stiff every time.
Of course he values shooting somewhat, it's just not a high priority. Like I said, I'm fine with it - there's more than one way to build a successful basketball team.
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Let's put it this way - if Frank has a choice between a guy that can get to the rim and can't shoot to a shooter that can't (assuming everything else is the same), he'll take the guy that can get to the rim every time. If he has to fill his last scholarship with a driveway shooter or a 6-9 stiff, he'll take the 6-9 stiff every time.
Of course he values shooting somewhat, it's just not a high priority. Like I said, I'm fine with it - there's more than one way to build a successful basketball team.
Very fair.
I love that Frank doesn't play some traditional brand of basketball. Makes it much more enjoyable to watch/follow, especially when we are good at how he wants to play.
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don't entirely agree. would spradling have an offer if he couldn't shoot? you think the staff couldn't have found an unranked 3 star 6'5" athlete with no skills instead?
hell, would pullen and clemente have gotten offers if they couldn't shoot? other than young (huggins), has martin even recruited a single 1 or 2 that wasn't a decent shooter?
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don't entirely agree. would spradling have an offer if he couldn't shoot? you think the staff couldn't have found an unranked 3 star 6'5" athlete with no skills instead?
hell, would pullen and clemente have gotten offers if they couldn't shoot? other than young (huggins), has martin even recruited a single 1 or 2 that wasn't a decent shooter?
meh, semantics.
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don't entirely agree. would spradling have an offer if he couldn't shoot? you think the staff couldn't have found an unranked 3 star 6'5" athlete with no skills instead?
hell, would pullen and clemente have gotten offers if they couldn't shoot? other than young (huggins), has martin even recruited a single 1 or 2 that wasn't a decent shooter?
meh, semantics.
sys just tries really hard to be a contrarian - he completely ignored what I said. Pullen has developed into a nice shooter, but hasn't been above average until this season., but Clemente is about average for his position. McGruder has been a nice surprise, but he definitely had more of a rep as a slasher w/ a below average jump shot.
Nick Russell is at 18.8%, Martavious Irving is at 28.6%. If those are decent, well, I guess we agree that Martin places a high value on decent shooting.
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sys just tries really hard to be a contrarian - he completely ignored what I said. Pullen has developed into a nice shooter, but hasn't been above average until this season., but Clemente is about average for his position. McGruder has been a nice surprise, but he definitely had more of a rep as a slasher w/ a below average jump shot.
Nick Russell is at 18.8%, Martavious Irving is at 28.6%. If those are decent, well, I guess we agree that Martin places a high value on decent shooting.
bullshit. pullen and clemente are going to each have over 200 attempts from 3. that means they're shooters, %s be damned. mcgruder is a 2-3, emphasis on 3. my thesis is that martin values shooting for 1s and combos (or true 2s if he were ever to recruit one, which he won't), not in 3s and 4s. so, irrelevant.
russell and irving's %s are statistically meaningless, especially russell's. which you are certainly aware of. but yeah, if your argument is that he only takes guys that are likely to hit 40%+, then i agree with you. that isn't what i thought your argument, as expressed here, was.
Let's put it this way - if Frank has a choice between a guy that can get to the rim and can't shoot to a shooter that can't (assuming everything else is the same), he'll take the guy that can get to the rim every time. If he has to fill his last scholarship with a driveway shooter or a 6-9 stiff, he'll take the 6-9 stiff every time.
Of course he values shooting somewhat, it's just not a high priority. Like I said, I'm fine with it - there's more than one way to build a successful basketball team.
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I'd say Fred Brown wouldn't have been recruited if not for his 40% plus shooting.
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I'd say Fred Brown wouldn't have been recruited if not for his 40% plus shooting.
And yet it didn't save him from being pushed out
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I'd say Fred Brown wouldn't have been recruited if not for his 40% plus shooting.
And yet it didn't save him from being pushed out
True. But niether did Buchi's explosive leaping ability...and it's not like Energy is athletic. The true issue that created the "Frank hates shooters" myth (aside from Rusty's influence) is the only quality that Frank displays that is "high school coachish": his annoying habit of playing "hard workers" over talent in the role player minutes. But how do you argue with results? If Judge and McGruder got all CM and Colons minutes would we be better? It would seem so logically, but he's pretty much exceeded anyones expectations with an IQ over 80. Kinda takes the fun out of arguements like this.
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Kinda takes the fun out of arguments like this.
it really does.
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Kinda takes the fun out of arguments like this.
it really does.
Push through it bros.
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Kinda takes the fun out of arguments like this.
it really does.
Yep.
I've moved away from "coach knows best, so let's trust him" type posts. I used to make them myself, but good criticism is what makes message boarding fun a lot of the time. The problem is most fans wouldn't know a good critique if it hit them in the face much of the time. But that's part of the fun of it too I suppose.
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Kinda takes the fun out of arguments like this.
it really does.
is Frank ruining bbsing for everyone. maybe Currie is in the right?
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sys just tries really hard to be a contrarian - he completely ignored what I said. Pullen has developed into a nice shooter, but hasn't been above average until this season., but Clemente is about average for his position. McGruder has been a nice surprise, but he definitely had more of a rep as a slasher w/ a below average jump shot.
Nick Russell is at 18.8%, Martavious Irving is at 28.6%. If those are decent, well, I guess we agree that Martin places a high value on decent shooting.
bullshit. pullen and clemente are going to each have over 200 attempts from 3. that means they're shooters, %s be damned. mcgruder is a 2-3, emphasis on 3. my thesis is that martin values shooting for 1s and combos (or true 2s if he were ever to recruit one, which he won't), not in 3s and 4s. so, irrelevant.
russell and irving's %s are statistically meaningless, especially russell's. which you are certainly aware of. but yeah, if your argument is that he only takes guys that are likely to hit 40%+, then i agree with you. that isn't what i thought your argument, as expressed here, was.
meh, semantics.
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meh, semantics.
you and _fan are very funny. :blank:
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I'd say Fred Brown wouldn't have been recruited if not for his 40% plus shooting.
And yet it didn't save him from being pushed out
True. But niether did Buchi's explosive leaping ability...and it's not like Energy is athletic. The true issue that created the "Frank hates shooters" myth (aside from Rusty's influence) is the only quality that Frank displays that is "high school coachish": his annoying habit of playing "hard workers" over talent in the role player minutes. But how do you argue with results? If Judge and McGruder got all CM and Colons minutes would we be better? It would seem so logically, but he's pretty much exceeded anyones expectations with an IQ over 80. Kinda takes the fun out of arguements like this.
i think with Buchi it was his voice
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6A Semi-Final Game. Dr. Phillips 50 Dr. Krop 42, Shane Larkin & Pat Ryan led Dr.Phillips w/15pts, Angel Rodriguez led Krop w/23pts.
:frown:
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6A Semi-Final Game. Dr. Phillips 50 Dr. Krop 42, Shane Larkin & Pat Ryan led Dr.Phillips w/15pts, Angel Rodriguez led Krop w/23pts.
:frown:
Would love to see the video of him and Larkin matched up
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Sprads scored 20 tonight in another substate win over Free State
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http://breakdownmagazine.com/discus/messages/11/1455.html?1267969178
a little discussion of how the refs stole the game from rodriguez tricoche.
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Rodriguez was not called for one offensive foul when he had his hand and arm extended, clearing his way to the basket. I sat by four officials who were absolutely incredulous.
Will be great when Angel drives all Nortard fans crazy with the above, just like Clemente has - this could be an actual quote from HHC.com in a couple years
:bball:
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http://www.kansascity.com/2010/03/09/1801492/leavenworths-williams-found-a.html
He still leads the team in fouls
:love:
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http://www.kansascity.com/2010/03/09/1801492/leavenworths-williams-found-a.html
He still leads the team in fouls
:love:
Hopefully lots of double fouls and technicals are included. For JunkYard Cat-ish stuff.
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any thoughts/hints on where he's going to prep?
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call_me_WALLACE
Also KSU 2011 commit Nino Williams had 18 pts & key defensive stop late to help Leavenworth advance to semis vs Perry Ellis tonight at 8:15
:)
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Nino Williams with 29 in the loss to Perry Ellis & Wichita Heights.
EMPORIA — For the better part of Friday's Class 6A boys state semifinal, Leavenworth's Nino Williams put on a show.
He scored inside. He scored outside. He scored 29 points.
But when he fouled out with 4:37 left in the game, Leavenworth's hopes of upsetting defending 6A champion Wichita Heights went with him.
Heights led just 64-60 when Williams, a Kansas State signee picked up his fifth foul 90 feet from the basket and the Falcons went on to claim an 83-78 victory.
The win puts the Falcons (22-2) back in the title game for the second straight year where they will face Blue Valley Northwest (17-7), a 69-63 winner over rival Blue Valley North.
"Wow, that kid was unbelievable, and that team would not go away," Heights coach Joe Auer said of Williams and the Pioneers. "What a great contest between two very good teams ... It took absolutely every ounce of energy and playmaking that we had tonight."
Williams turned the White Auditorium floor into his personal playground. He scored 12 points in the first quarter alone and 17 in the opening half. When Heights started to pull away in the third quarter, hitting the Pioneers with a 13-4 run after Dreamius Smith's buzzer-beating 3-pointer tied it 39-39 at halftime, Williams brought them back with 12 straight points. The last of those was a free throw that cut the Pioneer deficit to 61-60 with 5:22 to play.
But Heights' Eric Dobbins answered with a 3-pointer and then Williams fouled out after missing a shot. And with that, the Pioneers' upset bid was over.
Smith and sophomore standout Perry Ellis each scored 23 points to lead Heights, while Smith added 21 points and Evan Wessel had 15. Williams finished 10 of 17 from the floor, hit four 3-pointers and made 5 of 8 free throws for his 29 points and Kyle Wiggins added 19 for Leavenworth.
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Kansas Boys Super Six
Perry Ellis, Wichita Heights 6-8 So. 22.2
Trevor Releford, Bishop Miege 6-0 Sr. 18.2
Will Spradling, Shawnee Mission South 6-2 Sr. 20.1
Nino Williams, Leavenworth 6-5 Sr. 24.0
Reese Holliday, Kansas City-Sumner Academy 6-3 Sr. 23.8
Christian Ulsaker, McPherson 6-5 Jr. 19.8
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gpc posters who saw the mo-ks all star game commented favorably on williams. call him either the best or 2nd best (behind releford) looking prospect in the game.
from the star, releford and spradling sound adorable.
Kansas stars sweep Missouri at High School All-Star Challenge
By CANDACE BUCKNER
During the Hy-Vee/Pepsi High School All-Star Challenge on Saturday afternoon, some of the top senior basketball players around the city showcased their skills on the Independence Events Center hardwood. Although several of the players on the girls’ and boys’ rosters have won high school championships and have lined up basketball scholarships, the Sunflower State teams had the edge.
In the girls’ game, Janna Graf (Shawnee Mission East) scored 25 points, leading Kansas to a 93-90 win over Missouri. Later in the boys’ game, Kansas pulled away by running with the point guard pairing of Trevor Releford (Bishop Miege) and Will Spradling (Shawnee Mission South) and won 115-104 in front of 1,581 fans.
“We had to win,” Releford said. “We couldn’t let them get everything.”
Missouri had taken the halftime slam dunk contest ? Hogan Prep’s Dawon Cummings ? the previously announced DiRenna Award ? Northeast’s Daylen Robinson ? and even owned quite a winning streak in this game. Kansas coaches did not know for sure, but told their players that Missouri had won the last eight straight All-Star games. That was enough motivation to snap the streak for Releford, who scored 18 points.
Releford confessed that he was wiped out at the beginning of the game ? he had to take the ACT before coming to the arena ? but showed life in the final quarter alongside Spradling. The two have played together since the sixth grade.
“We knew where each other was (going to be) just from playing together,” said Spradling, who scored a game-high 21 points. “Lately, we’ve just been working out together.”
The two Division I-bound point guards split time at the lead position. Early in the fourth quarter, Spradling, who’s going to Kansas State, dribbled up court and found Releford open for a three-pointer that gave Kansas an 88-77 lead. During another possession, Releford, who has signed with Alabama, drove baseline and tagged a pass for Spradling, who was waiting beyond the arc for another three.
Cummings scored 19 for Missouri, followed by Lee’s Summit North point guard B.J. Dunbar and Rockhurst’s Dexter McDonald, who both had 15.
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from the scout teaser on the tournament down in texas. i think i saw that mokan won, but not positive what age level it was.
The second day of the Next Level Nationals event proved to be a good one. Nino Williams, Keith Frazier and Antawn Space were among the standouts.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=2&c=965795&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fscouthoops.scout.com%2f2%2f965795.html
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from the scout teaser on the tournament down in texas. i think i saw that mokan won, but not positive what age level it was.
The second day of the Next Level Nationals event proved to be a good one. Nino Williams, Keith Frazier and Antawn Space were among the standouts.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=2&c=965795&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fscouthoops.scout.com%2f2%2f965795.html
nino looked good.
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from the scout teaser on the tournament down in texas. i think i saw that mokan won, but not positive what age level it was.
The second day of the Next Level Nationals event proved to be a good one. Nino Williams, Keith Frazier and Antawn Space were among the standouts.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=2&c=965795&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fscouthoops.scout.com%2f2%2f965795.html
nino looked good.
What will be his new rivals rating?
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n e 1 going to get pics of these guys puking on day 1 with Greeny? :barf:
They show up on campus in what 2-3 weeks?
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Well, I figured this was as good a place to post this, so here are my thougths from catching some of the action at the KC Classic the past couple days, I tried to organize the player profiles by their respective teams.
Spiece MoKan
Nino Williams 6'5" 190 SF Class of '11(maybe '10?) KSU commit
I don't think it's a stretch to say he was the best player at the tourney. Best prospect? now that's debatable but there's no question Nino brings it with effort and intensity every time he steps on the floor. Really excels at finishing in transition, had a couple monster dunks on the break where it was best for all involved to just get out of his way. Also a very strong finisher amongst contact in a half-court set, just has a real knack for putting the ball in the bucket when he's in the paint. Jump shot from deep looks good, knocking it down with consistency, I'd say he's hit 35-40% from 3 so far this weekend. Doesn't not attack much off the dribble in the halfcourt, could probably stand to improve his handle which would allow him to be more aggressive off the bounce and use his strength and athleticism to attack the rim.
David Kravish 6'9" 200 PF Class of '11 - Lee's Summit, MO
In the Friday night update on the tourney, Bossi mentioned that we've been in contact with this kid. He looks to be a legit 6'9" and moves really well for a kid that size. Definitely needs to put on muscle mass to be a B12 type player, but fights hard on the glass and showed some good offensive awareness in the paint with nice passing and touch on his shots.
Clint McCullough 6'6" 180 Combo Forward Class of '12 - Stillwell, KS
Plays a class up with the MoKan 17's, has decent passing and handling skills for a kid that size, has a slightly unorthodox release on his jump shot(releases from his chest) but still knocks it down with a fair amount of consistency from the mid-range. In his last game of the day, had one really nice take off the dribble that started about 40 feet out that he finished off with a 14 ft jumper.Had some inconsistency finishing in the paint but I think that's to be expected to some extent playing up a class like he was. Still fights hard though when physically overamteched in the post.
Willie Cauley 6'10" 210(I'm guessing on the weight)
PF-C Class of '12 - Spearville, KS
Looks to be every bit of 6'10", extremely long arms, and moves very well for his size. Very active in the paint on the defensive end, is a nightmare to try to shoot over anywhere within 6-7 ft of the rim. Also really goes and gets rebounds. Offensively, doesn't have a bad feel for the game but really displayed no post moves at all. He will catch the ball in the post with a 6'5" kid guarding him and will still not make an offensive move, he will just pass the ball back out, just painfully obvious he has no confidence in his back to the basket game. Basically at this point, the only ways he are scoring are if he is setup with an open dunk or on putbacks. Still a tremendous prospect right now due to his combination of size, athleticism, and defensive presence.
The Life - Houston
Isiah Jones 6'2" 170 combo G - Originally from Chicago but has moved to Houston to attend Christian Life Academy
Blessed with the best nickname I've heard in a long time, "Hoopy" started out the tourney with a bang on Friday night. I was mostly paying attention to the MoKan-Athletes First game being played at the same time and I didn't catch more than 10 minutes of the 2nd half of The Life's game against Martin Bros, but in that time, I saw Jones drill 4 3's, 1 being the go ahead bucket with about 1 min left and nail 2 game clinching FT's in the closing seconds. My interest was piqued and I made a point to watch Jones this morning againdt Athletes First. Jones started right where he left off the night before and drilled 3 3's in the 1st half on his way to 16 pts by half. Then, early in the 2nd, he took an ill-advised 3 from deep when the game was starting to get away from his team and his coach sat him down for a long stretch. He came back in the game with about 7 mins to go but never regained his touch, going about 0-6 from distance the remainder of the game and not scoring another point. In his last game of pool play agasinst MoKan, he continued to struggle with his outside shot, but should be commended for attacking off the dribble and knocking down a couple nice floaters in the lane. I'd be really interested to know if he's always that streaky of a shooter or not, because he has a really smooth shot and when he gets it going it's a lot of fun to watch.
Chris Coleman 6'9" 260 C Class of '11 - Humble, TX
Just an absolute load on the block, needs to improve his consistency in finishing when he gets the ball in the paint. Did do a good job of knocking down FT's when fouled. Moves fairly well for his size, just really tough to manuever around him when he gets anchored in the paint. With improved touch and skill level in the paint, could be a real force in college hoops in a couple years.
Team Texas
Thomas Gipson 6'7" 240 Class of '11 PF - Cedar Hill, TX
I know Rivals lists him at 255, but he just didn't look THAT big to me. Don't get me wrong, definitely has the body for DI ball right now. The left-hander really favors going to his left in the post, in the game I watched him play today, he did have a couple strong finishes in the paint going to that left hand. Would like to see him develop a counter move to his left hand to keep the D off the balance. Also knocked down about 16 ft jumper in the game I saw. Granted, it was early and it was only that game but I would have liked to have seen him be more aggressive and throw his weight and strength around more than he did. Had a couple of physical boards but he did not dominate the glass like I think he could have.
Jamal Branch 6'3" 170 Class of '11 - Arlington, TX
The highest rated prospect in the Class of '11 at the KC Classic, the Texas A&M commit loves to attack off the dribble and then once he has his defender back on his heels, he'll step back and shoot the 3. He can pretty much create his own shot(or 1 for a teammate)anytime he wants due to his elite handle and athleticism. Only problem his, he was having trouble knocking down those shots throughout the majority of his team's game against Kingdom Hoops today. He did start to get things going late, knocking down some nice floaters and 2 3's in the final minute, but that wasn't enough as Team Texas lost to a scrappy but less-talented Kingdom Hoops.
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the sound you hear is our beat writers hanging their heads in shame. or it least it would be if they had an ounce of self-respect to share amongst them.
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Great work underdog wildcat
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:thumbsup: :bwpopcorn:
BTW, is Isaiah Austin there?
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the sound you hear is our beat writers hanging their heads in shame. or it least it would be if they had an ounce of self-respect to share amongst them.
Can someone say goEMAW.com newshound? Fire up the powerorbing premium, motherfuckers!
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Austin was listed on the roster for Team Texas, but he was conspicuously absent. A 7 footer wearing Rec Specs woould stand out a little bit but there was no sign of big Isaiah yestereday at the tourney.
There were several good guard prospects from the Class of '12 at the tourney I've posted some thoughts on them below.
Marcus Paige 6'0 155 - Marion, IA
Smooth lefty PG whose strength is running the show with his slick handle and passing ability but will also attack the lane off the bounce if his defender gives him an opening. Really crafty finsiher using a variety of left-handed floaters and finger rolls to score around the rim. Did knock down a couple 3's but could probably use a little more consistency on his shot from deep. Somewhat slight of build, probbably needs to put on muscle to hang defensively for 40 minutes at the high major level.
Mike Gesell 5'11" 165 - S. Sioux City, NE
Forms a really solid backcourt with Paige on the Martin Bros team, this kid has a really solid, steady game. Sneaky good athlete with solid passing and handling skills. IMO, he's the best shooter of the '12 guards I'm talking about in this post. Really smooth stroke from long amd mid-range that he knocks down off the catch or off the dribble equally well. Knocked down two clutch FT's for Martin Bros to give them the lead with less than 10 seconds left against Kingdom Hoops only to have Wesley Staten drive the length of the court and beat them on a buzzer beating layup.
Wesley Staten 6'0" 155 - Sioux City, IA
Really kind of amazing that there are 2 big time guards from in the Class of '12 from Sioux City. Staten is a great athlete who can raise up and shoot his jump shot over just about anybody, he just needs to get more consistent in knocking down those down. Appeared to be much more accurate from about 17 ft in than from behind the 3 pt line. Also, really attacks well off the dribble, getting to the line a lot and knocking down probably 80% of those attempts. As I mentioned above, he had a great full-court, last second drive that he converted with a layup to help his team, Kingdom Hoops knock off highly regarded Martin Bros.
Nino Jackson 6'1" 170 - Ardmore, OK
Rivals lists him at 6'2" but I'm not sure he's that tall, really not any physically bigger than Staten, this kid is a tremendous athlete who is really active defensively. Really quick feet and quick hands which he used to get a couple steals and breakaway dunks. Erratic jump shot at this point, did knock down a couple from deep but also put up a couple AB's. ku fetish is pretty damn annoying, ku hoodie, ku socks, whatever man.
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Good stuff, appreciate it
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ebosshoops
KC Classic is complete. Mo-Kan Elite wins 17s and 15s, Martin Brothers wins the 16s. Unofficial player of weekend is Nino Williams.
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Bossi's final thoughts on KC Classic, it's free
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1087396
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ESPN's recap of the KC Classic.
Nino Williams (Leavenworth, Kan./Leavenworth)
2011, SF, 6-foot-5, 190 pounds | Team: Spiece Mo-Kan
He has a toughness and competitiveness you cannot teach. Williams is a scorer who makes tough baskets over and through his opponent. His college-ready frame allows him to overpower his defender when driving to the rim, posting up or grabbing offensive rebounds and putting them back. He can knock down jump shots out to 22 feet when running the wing, coming off screens or spotting up on dribble penetration kickouts. In the post, when doubled teamed, Williams has good court vision and the ability to find open cutters or teammates spotting up for threes. He has also improved his ballhandling skills over the last year, but he still needs to get better in this area.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5215135 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5215135)
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ESPN's recap of the KC Classic.
Nino Williams (Leavenworth, Kan./Leavenworth)
2011, SF, 6-foot-5, 190 pounds | Team: Spiece Mo-Kan
He has a toughness and competitiveness you cannot teach. Williams is a scorer who makes tough baskets over and through his opponent. His college-ready frame allows him to overpower his defender when driving to the rim, posting up or grabbing offensive rebounds and putting them back. He can knock down jump shots out to 22 feet when running the wing, coming off screens or spotting up on dribble penetration kickouts. In the post, when doubled teamed, Williams has good court vision and the ability to find open cutters or teammates spotting up for threes. He has also improved his ballhandling skills over the last year, but he still needs to get better in this area.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5215135 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5215135)
:drool:
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if nino has a couple more tournaments like this (especially vegas), he'll be top 100 at the end of the summer.
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if nino has a couple more tournaments like this (especially vegas), he'll be top 100 at the end of the summer.
Yep. Then his mom would join in the recruiting process and he would end up at MU.
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if nino has a couple more tournaments like this (especially vegas), he'll be top 100 at the end of the summer.
Yep. Then his mom would join in the recruiting process and he would end up at MU.
except he wouldn't, seeing as how his legal guardian is Derek Zeck.
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what will be Nino Williams final rivals rating? Im going to predict a 4 star.
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Didn't know exactly where to put this so I'll dump it here:
Top 20 AAU clubs (http://prephoopsassist.com/2010/05/25/top-20-grassrootsaau-basketball-clubs-05-25-2010/)
Dallas Mustangs #4
MOKAN #10 (Premier AAU club in KS, just like we've been telling Beems for months)
DCA #15
Franchize All-Stars #20
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Also MOKAN website is pretty elite - wish it had more features tho.
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Didn't know exactly where to put this so I'll dump it here:
Top 20 AAU clubs (http://prephoopsassist.com/2010/05/25/top-20-grassrootsaau-basketball-clubs-05-25-2010/)
Dallas Mustangs #4
MOKAN #10 (Premier AAU club in KS, just like we've been telling Beems for months)
DCA #15
Franchize All-Stars #20
beems is on like an 0-150 streak. If he played baseball, he would have been sent down a long time ago.
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BMW is just bias since he played for Pump n run. Can't fault him for that. :dunno:
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He did not play for Pump N Run.
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He did not play for Pump N Run.
sure he did, bid time aau'er that bmw
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I always kinda figured Beems played for the other team.
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Fellas, that zinger took 16 days to develop. Now that is some determination.
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Nino:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPS1I_PJUhg
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Nino:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPS1I_PJUhg
Looking pretty good. But wow, he's traveling like it's the NBA
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Nino:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPS1I_PJUhg
You know what pisses me off? That video was shot at a couple gyms in Hutch that I live no more than a mile from and I had ZERO clue it was happening. I'm pretty sure I spent that entire weekend just bumming around my house getting blitzed on Coors Light trying to find some level of enjoyment watching World Cup soccer and shitty Royals baseball. What a waste.
With my connections and level of awareness, I should be a KSU beat writer. I'd be a good fit.
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Nino:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPS1I_PJUhg
You know what pisses me off? That video was shot at a couple gyms in Hutch that I live no more than a mile from and I had ZERO clue it was happening. I'm pretty sure I spent that entire weekend just bumming around my house getting blitzed on Coors Light trying to find some level of enjoyment watching World Cup soccer and shitty Royals baseball. What a waste.
With my connections and level of awareness, I should be a KSU beat writer. I'd be a good fit.
You're not THAT out of touch.
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I should be a KSU beat writer. I'd be a good fit.
you're too motivated, horrible fit.
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Nino clearly sucks. One dunk in a 3 minute highlight clip? What a stiff.
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Nino clearly sucks. One dunk in a 3 minute highlight clip? What a stiff.
Did you see his elevation on some of the dunk attempts? :surprised:
Didn't know he was that athletic/explosive...
The D-Hosk comparisons are more real than ever.
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Nino clearly sucks. One dunk in a 3 minute highlight clip? What a stiff.
Did you see his elevation on some of the dunk attempts? :surprised:
Didn't know he was that athletic/explosive...
The D-Hosk comparisons are more real than ever.
Not sure where you've been but you obviously know nothing about talent evaluation. The only way to truly evaluate a prospect is a highlight reel of nothing but dunks. Or maybe you haven't been paying atttention.
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Nino clearly sucks. One dunk in a 3 minute highlight clip? What a stiff.
Did you see his elevation on some of the dunk attempts? :surprised:
Didn't know he was that athletic/explosive...
The D-Hosk comparisons are more real than ever.
Not sure where you've been but you obviously know nothing about talent evaluation. The only way to truly evaluate a prospect is a highlight reel of nothing but dunks. Or maybe you haven't been paying atttention.
Fuktard, what are you doing quoting me? My post was nothing but positive fuktard.
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For all you recruiting nuts there(just like me) and you need something to take your mind off the Lawrence/Sutton situation, Rivals will be releasing a reshuffled Top 150 for the '11 class tomorrow and a Top 100 for the '12 Class on Friday. This is per Bossi.
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=103&mid=144595646&sid=910&tid=144595646&style=2&Override=1
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at last, a little good news.
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthehacienda.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F06%2Fbrian_peppers1.jpg&hash=57acfbadaeda86914f1fc88f41ca50f049a332e6)
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthehacienda.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F06%2Fbrian_peppers1.jpg&hash=57acfbadaeda86914f1fc88f41ca50f049a332e6)
Which recruit is this? Looks like a junkyard cat to me!! Good fit.
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Scout update from Super 64 in Vegas:
"DeAngelo Harrison, SG, Franchize: Every class has a guy like this. Someone with supreme confidence who thinks he’s open once he crosses halfcourt. Old schoolers recall Ronald Blackshear and newbies think of J.T. Terrell. Like J.T., Harrison has the swagger and signature hair style. Harrison is a stone cold assassin who is empowered to score the basketball. He feels like every shot is going down."
"Marcus Smart, SF, Tex. Assault: There’s a respect level that exists out on the circuit for this kid. In June, he had hernia surgery. On Thursday morning he was clutching his stomach and something wasn’t right. However, that didn’t keep him out of action for long though we think he’s still hurt. What you see if what you get. Smart is mentally sharp, guards three positions, plays at least two of them on offense and effortlessly switches from creator to scorer as the situation dictates. This is the kind of kid you win college basketball games with."
"Marcus Smart drew Bill Self, Frank Martin, Scott Drew and an assistant from North Carolina."
Update lauds Antwan Space as a "live bodied SF" who is an excellent offensive rebounder but the KSU Cats were not listed as a school pursuing him at this point.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/985847.html
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2 points:
1. If you're wondering who the heck Ronald Blackshear was/is(just like I was), see link below.
http://www.nba.com/draft2003/profiles/BlackshearRonald.html
2. Given Smart's reported playmaking ability, HBBIQ, and ability to defend all 3 perimeter positions, I wonder if we are recruiting him as more a PG or 2 guard than as a 3?
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interesting. if i'd have had to guess. i'd have guessed martin would have been in kc. or maybe even orlando.
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interesting. if i'd have had to guess. i'd have guessed martin would have been in kc. or maybe even orlando.
LCSRIQ. Martin is the big dog so he goes to vegas. undsy and figsy get the smaller tourneys.
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LCSRIQ. Martin is the big dog so he goes to vegas. undsy and figsy get the smaller tourneys.
bet underwood isn't out. 3 coaches rule.
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Adrian and Angel are in action this weekend. Hopefully there are some write-ups.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/10/22/1886478/top-hoops-prospects-to-participate.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/10/22/1886478/top-hoops-prospects-to-participate.html)
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Pretty good writeup from Bossi about Sunrise Academy in Wichita. Doesn't mention any specific recruits we're after but does say our staff has been down there to check things out:
"All told, coaches from Kansas State, Kansas, Wichita State, Missouri, Marquette, Missouri State, Utah State, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, Colorado, Clemson, Iowa State, Iowa, Central Michigan, Western Kentucky, Oral Roberts, Memphis, Rhode Island and others have been in to watch Lindsted's squad work out this fall."
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1150472
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Probably Eric Katenda. Dude has some impressive offers.
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Northstar releases a Top 100 HS team list. An extremely inexact science ranking HS teams in this way but hey, it's something to look at. KSU connections/recruits' teams who made the list:T
11. Word of God - Raleigh, NC(T. Graham)
21. Travis(TX) - Strictly for Havs
28. Wichita Heights - You should know this
48. Grace Prep - Arlington, TX(J. Hornbeak)
60. ACD - Jacksonville(S. Smith and I. Baker)
73. Raytown South(Wainwright and Earl Peterson?)
81. Cedar Hill(Gip)
http://blog.northstarbball.com/
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ESPN's list includes Marcus Smart's crew, Marcus HS in Flower Mound, TX in the Top 20
http://rise.espn.go.com/boys-basketball/team-rankings/Index.aspx
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ar-t & dr. krop dominate rivers & winter park.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/highschool/basketball/os-hs-windermere-basketball-20101127-5,0,2048601.story
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Great to see Rodriguez and Krop handle that level of competition with ease. Also had same amount of pts as Rivers but you have to wonder how much of Rivers pts came in garbage time(only had 7 at half per article).
FWIW, Cody Mann is a 6' 155 PG who transferred from Miami area Pace HS, ran AAU with Florida Rams. Linked his ESPN profile below, that lists him as '12, but I saw a couple articles saying he was a SR this year, so don't for sure what class he is.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/97024/cody-mann
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pretty sure he's a senior.
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Krop boys' basketball rolls over American
BY J.T. WILCOX
[email protected]
ROUNDUP
Krop's road back to Lakeland might not be paved with gold, but it is propelled by performances like Tuesday's 68-31 victory over visiting American.
The Lightning (3-0) used its length -- Krop has three players 6-7 or taller -- to dominate the Patriots in the paint. Krop outrebounded American 36-22 and blocked 10 shots.
Senior guard Brian Delancy, who played his sophomore season at Choice Prep, was one of four Krop players to finish with double-digit points -- recording a game-high 14 points and nine rebounds.
Ty Haughton finished with 11 points and four blocks, and Trevin Joseph and Darren Nagar added 10 points apiece.
Kansas State commit and 2009 All-Dade selection Angel Rodriguez finished with only four points, but logged less than 14 minutes of action as the Lightning, which defeated Austin Rivers and nationally ranked Winter Park last Saturday 76-55, held a 15-point lead after the first quarter and a 30-11 lead at the half.
• Krop 68, American 31 -- KRO (3-0): Delancy 14, Haughton 11, Nagar 10, Joseph 10, Mann 7, George 6, Rivera 6, Rodriguez 4. AM: Spicer 6, Bromell 5, Christophe 5, Riggins 2, Hope 2, Bueno 4, Dumeus 4, O. Foster 2, P. Foster 1. Halftime: Krop 30-11. Technicals: Delancy. Three-Pointers: Christophe, Delancy 2, Nagar 2, George 2, Joseph 2. Rebounds: Delancy 9. Assists: Rodriguez 6. Steals: Rivera 2.
Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/12/01/1951077/krop-boys-basketball-rolls-over.html#ixzz173KCAbYH
6 assists in 14 minutes ain't shabby.
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Also,
Thomas Gipson had 19 points in leading Cedar Hill to a win over Arlington Lamar, which features Cannen Cunningham (high-major big man signed to SMU).
And then he followed that up with 10 points in a win over Fort Worth Arlington Heights.
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Gipson- Dejuan Blair 2.0
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finally some news on Diaz:
Adrian had 29 points in powering HML to a win over Golman.
• Hialeah-Miami Lakes 76, Goleman 52 -- HML (4-1): Vandiver 4, Viera 4, Jenrette 2, Rionda 4, Tanis 6, D. Williams 8, M. Williams 14, Diaz 29, Balbuena 1, Nellycliff 4. GOL: Gonzalez 23, Cooper 16, Blake 4, Garrastazu 2, Zuaanabar 1, Guido 2, Quintana 2, Zulueta 2. Halftime: HML 34-23. Three-pointers: Gonzalez 2, Cooper 2. Rebounds: M. Williams 11. Assists: Vandiver 6. Steals: D. Williams 2.
Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/12/08/1962766/braddock-wins-diaz-earns-300th.html#ixzz17Xxiaa5b
In other news, Rodriguez didn't play in Krop's last game so he's prob. injured.
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Krop beat Shane Larkin-led Dr Phillips 67-62 in double OT a couple days back, searched high and low for a game recap but couldn't find 1.
Anyway, pasted and linked below is some interesting msg boarding from some dude in C. Florida, has some very positive things to say about Rodriguez and Krop:
"Winter Park(Rivers' team) Vs. Krop.....Krop played a 3-2 match up zone...Krop has 3 guards they start all about 6'0 or under with 2 6'8 kids. So they go 3 out 2 in even on offense. WP had no answer. Krop dictated the entire game. They walked the ball the slowed the tempo, but when they saw they had a clear fast break, they pushed it and scored. Krop dominated WP inside, everytime WP drove to the hoop, it was 2 6'8 kids with arms up, and 3 guards going after the ball. Shakey is an amazing coach and he showed it. Angel Rodriguez DOMINATED...let me say this again...DOMINATED the game. The KState player really opened my eyes. Made WP literally run their offense from the half court line. Bailey never adjusted to the 3-2. Also, Krop averaged about 40-45 seconds per possesion. Shakey said before the game that he is fine with Austin getting 20-25...but he doesnt want Keel getting 18 or Williams getting 18 like they did against Montverde."
"TOP 10 PLAYERS I SAW THIS WEEKEND
1A. Austin Rivers-WP
1B. Angel Rodriguez-Krop :emawkid:
3. Shane Larkin-DP
4. Steve Missi-Montverde
5. Wayne Martin-Providence
6. Tyrone Haughton-Krop
7. Joey De La Rosa-Montverde
8. Austin Keel-WP
9. Kasey Hill-Montverde
10. Patrick George-Krop"
http://varsitysports.orlandosentinel.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=8985
And finally, USA Today ranks Krop 8th nationally, 3rd among public schools(if you like to keep track of that sort of thing)
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/preps/basketball/poll/2010-11-super-25m.htm
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man, that's a great find uw.
it's kinda nice to see george get some positive recognition. dunno if you ever saw it, but some anti-krop posters on one of those florida hs boards were attacking him pretty harshly last year.
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That msg board convo was the 1st I'd heard of George, but really, they were attacking an HS kid? Sounds like some classy bbs'ing there.
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That msg board convo was the 1st I'd heard of George, but really, they were attacking an HS kid? Sounds like some classy bbs'ing there.
well, the posters attacking him were likely hs kids too.
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Good point
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man, that's a great find uw.
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diaz keeps on dominating:
• Hialeah-Miami Lakes 65, South Miami 54 -- SM: Holcomb 9, Bartley 6, Hill 25, Cratit 2, Carter 6, Simmons 6. HML (6-1): Vandidir 11, D.Williams 2, M.Williams 15, Diaz 28, Balbuena 9. Halftime: HML 36-28. Three-pointers: Vandivir, Balbuena 3, Holcomb, Hill 5, Carter 2. Rebounds: Diaz 11. Assists: Vandiver 5.
Also, on Thursday night, Krop whipped Goleman, but Angel didn't play again.
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Diaz is probably ahead of where JHR was at that point, isn't he? I could see JO being a nice player for us later this year and (moreso) the next two.
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Jordan is awful.
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ARod back in action with Krop, chipping in 20 and 4 (stls) in a win over Norland.
• Krop 60, Norland 39 - KROP (5-0): Delancy 3, Mann 12, Rivera 4, George 13, Rodriguez 20, Haughton 5. NOR: A. Roberts 8, C. Roberts 9, Atkins 9, Janvier 6, Spear 2, Dunkin 3, Williams 2. Halftime: KROP 30-15. Three-pointers: Delancy, Rivera, George 3. Rebounds: Karell/Mann 8. Assists: Mann 6. Steals: Rodriguez 4.
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krop (ar-t) plays hialeah miami lakes (diaz) tonight.
krop begins the city of palms classic tomorrow. meyer and others should be there, hopefully krop can advance to play a name team.
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krop (ar-t) plays hialeah miami lakes (diaz) tonight.
krop begins the city of palms classic tomorrow. meyer and others should be there, hopefully krop can advance to play a name team.
I thought this would be a game that got more attention, but the MH only gave it a box score:
• Krop 65, HML 41 -- HML (7-2): Vandiver 6, Diaz 26, Williams 9. KROP (8-0): Nagar 8, Delancy 16, Mann 10, Rivera 2, George 2, Rodriguez 16, Karell 5, Kerr 3, Haughton 3. Halftime: KROP 47-14. Three-pointers: Nagar 2, Delancy 1, Rodriguez 2, Karell 1, Kerr 1. Rebounds: Karell 5. Assists: George/Rodriguez 7. Steals: Rivera 3.
Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/12/17/1977504_p2/doral-academy-swimmer-pigot-to.html#ixzz18N6GVJ1h
The halftime score will tell you everything you need to know about this game.
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Ottawa wins a buzzer-beater, and:
Officiating aside, Ottawa sophomore Semi Ojeleye provided the Stallions plenty of headaches on his own.
Ojeleye scored 30 points in the game and helped Ottawa build a 36-24 halftime lead. However, behind Nunn, sophomore D.J. Sayles and junior Davante Clark, the Stallions ralied.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxGfyNjtejw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxGfyNjtejw)
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Ottawa wins a buzzer-beater, and:
Officiating aside, Ottawa sophomore Semi Ojeleye provided the Stallions plenty of headaches on his own.
Ojeleye scored 30 points in the game and helped Ottawa build a 36-24 halftime lead. However, behind Nunn, sophomore D.J. Sayles and junior Davante Clark, the Stallions ralied.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxGfyNjtejw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxGfyNjtejw)
:love:
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Dr. Krop 32 Norfolk Christian 31 at the half. Delancy w/15pts all deep balls. Rodriguez w/7 pts and Tyrone Haughton is solid. McADoo w/10pts
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Dr. Krop has a joker now with 6 deep balls...ANGEL is very savvy and will be great for Frank Martin.
but mcadoo had a good 3rd and norfolk up by 7 to start the 4th.
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i just realized the last tweet may be confusing. the joker is brian delancy, not ar-t. delancy is a sr. guard, a former teammate of tony mitchell at cla.
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down 2, 2 minutes to play.
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60-60 with 1:20 left in the game. Is it gonna be McAdoo or Rodriguez...both are tough as nails.
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Norfolk beats Krop. McAdoo finished 14, Rodriguez 17 but struggled w/shot selection (like his attitude a lot)
goddamnit. now in the loser's bracket. play tomorrow @ 11 am central. unless north port somehow wins (little chance), there probably won't be any scouts there.
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And there goes our chances of seeing Angel on TV. Damn. :flush:
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Norfolk beats Krop. McAdoo finished 14, Rodriguez 17 but struggled w/shot selection (like his attitude a lot)
goddamnit. now in the loser's bracket. play tomorrow @ 11 am central. unless north port somehow wins (little chance), there probably won't be any scouts there.
http://www.examiner.com/sports-in-ft-myers/city-of-palms-classic-day-one-results (http://www.examiner.com/sports-in-ft-myers/city-of-palms-classic-day-one-results)
Telep had his stats wrong, but he was kinda close.
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Dr. Krop 65, North Port 57...Angel Rodriguez with 24 points.
from the tweets, it seems like evan daniels of scout was on hand. didn't seem like any other nat'l guys were, but a few regionals.
someone tweeted that ar-t had experienced a knee problem earlier in the season, clearing up the missed games that trey reported here. next game looks to be tuesday at 12:45.
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Game 5: Dr. Krop: 65 North Port: 57 – Angel Rodriguez (Kansas State) would lead the show against in-state program Florida North Port, scoring 24 points on 8-of-18 from the field. Rodriguez who is a ultra-competitor used numerous way to score attacking at the hip or side-stepping (Euro) around you. He showed the ability to knock down shots deep on the edges, but can over handle at times when trying to create at the rim. 2012/PF Tyrone Haughton (9pts/6rbs) is the perfect runner and jumper with tip-dunks and numerous quick-twitch plays. He typically likes going left shoulder and once he learns how to seal and maintain position the athletic Junior is going to have a chance to choose on which BCS school he wants to attend. Sharp-Shooter Bryan Delancy finished with 10 points and 5 rebounds. Cody Mann finished with 9 points and 5 rebounds and 3-for-3 from the line. Dr. Krop forced 17 turnovers and only had 7 fumbles of their own on the game.
North Port was lead by 2012/Combo Guard/Larry Taylor’s 27 points, as the crafty Junior went 8-for-9 from the stripe and 3-of-4 from the 3-point line. Taylor is a very heady kid who shook numerous prospects off the bounce with inside-out/hesitate and go moves, as he loves using his length to create finger rolls around the lane. Taylor is hearing from numerous Low-Division One schools at this moment. Central Florida Signee Kasey Wilson finished the game with 17 points and 8 rebounds on 7-of-19 from the field. Wilson is a super-athletic, tough nosed small forward and will develop into a great C-USA strong forward for CEO Donnie Jones.
http://highmajorscoop.com/2010/12/city-of-palms-day-2-flash-gordon/
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Jam_Rock32 Jamar Samuels
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@youngo11 we out here by ourselves pretty much. When you come back?
youngo11 omari lawrence
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@Jam_Rock32 the 9th
So, is Omari back home, or is he heading to Manhattan for the second semester? how are we to take this?
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So, is Omari back home, or is he heading to Manhattan for the second semester?
he's in nyc for xmas break.
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Another Rodriguez report from City of Palms, this time from Scout:
"Angel Rodriguez, PG, Dr. Krop – In a close contest this 5-foot-10 lead guard headed to Kansas State proved to be the difference, scoring a team high 24 points on 8-for-18 shooting. He can get a bit wild at times, but he certainly knows how to use his body when he attacks the basket and he has a good shot out to the three-point stripe."
Also included in this update from Saturday's games is an eval and school list for Rodriguez's teammate, class of '12 PF-C prospect Tyrone Haughton, this is the 1st time I've seen KSU listed as a school recruiting him. Other schools on his list include Florida, Louisville, West Virginia, and Alabama.
"Tyrone Haughton, PF, Dr. Krop – An intriguing 6-foot-8, possibly 6-foot-9 post prospect, Haughton is an active, live body on both the offensive and defensive end. He has a long set of arms, is a pretty good athlete and showed a nice set of hands. He took a handful of drop off passes and turned them into dunks. Going forward he’ll need to continue to develop his post moves, but he’s a got a bright future and his best basketball days are ahead of him."
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1032525.html
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KC area Hyvee Shootout recap from Rivals and Bossi. Writeup features Ellis and a few other prospects we've been mentioned in connection with in the past, namely Parker ('12), Peterson('13), and Joregenson('13).
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1167533
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Ty Haughton's put back dunk at the buzzer does in Memphis Melrose. Haughton hasn't disappointed. Raw but for a JR, he's huge w/ athleticism.
ar-t, haughton and krop beat melrose and adonis thomas. they play tomorrow for the consolation bracket championship at 12:20.
couldn't find any comments on ar-t's play yet. melrose was the preseason #1 hs team, although they lost convincingly to oak hill a little bit ago, and to whitney young in the 1st round of this tourney.
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Angel rodriguez and adonis thomas struggled in a 2 pt buzzer beater win by dr. Krop
meyer tweet. weird cap. guy.
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Angel rodriguez and adonis thomas struggled in a 2 pt buzzer beater win by dr. Krop
weird cap. guy.
Not really. His phone or whatever capitalizes the word it thinks begins a sentence (Krop after the period in "dr."), regardless of whether it's actually a new sentence or not.
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Not really. His phone or whatever capitalizes the word it thinks begins a sentence (Krop after the period in "dr."), regardless of whether it's actually a new sentence or not.
good point. a doesn't care cap. guy.
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Not really. His phone or whatever capitalizes the word it thinks begins a sentence (Krop after the period in "dr."), regardless of whether it's actually a new sentence or not.
good point. a doesn't care cap. guy.
I should note, I made my post before seeing that Irregardless II had erupted in another thread.
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Krop falls to Orlando Christian Prep 64-56
Rodriguez 20 pts, 9 ast, 8 rebs, 8 TO's - Possible quad double in the future?
Haughton 12 and 7
Krop finishes COP with 2-2 record, probably a little disappointing given their national ranking entering the tourney, but hey it was good to get more exposure for Rodriguez and we now know we're recruiting Haughton.
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Gipson is putting up between 14 and 20 most games. He's usually their leading scorer or 2nd leading scorer. :blank:
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Dude on GPC reports Frank sighting at Whataburger HS tourney in Dallas area. Gipson's Cedar Hill team and Marcus Smart's Flower Mound Marcus team are participating in the event.
Gip had 14 in Cedar Hill victory yesterday and went for 22 in blowout win today.
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so is there any chance any of these guys will play a nationally televised HS game at all this year?
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As far as I can tell, no. The best shot was Rodriguez's Krop team advancing far in the City of Palms tourney, but they fell short. So unless 1 of our signees/commits gets selected to play in 1 of those high-profile postseason all-star games, which doesn't appear likely right now, probably no national TV exposure.
Linked below is ESPN's calendar of televised HS games this year.
http://rise.espn.go.com/boys-basketball/articles/2010/11/10-TV-Schedule.aspx?pursuit=BoysBasketball
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Dude on GPC reports Frank sighting at Whataburger HS tourney in Dallas area. Gipson's Cedar Hill team and Marcus Smart's Flower Mound Marcus team are participating in the event.
Gip had 14 in Cedar Hill victory yesterday and went for 22 in blowout win today.
Wow, Frank is actually recruiting a top 50 player?
:surprised:
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Don't forget about Ellis, Cauley, and Malik Price-Martin from '13. We'll see how long we can stay in the hunt for any/all of those guys.
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Don't forget about Ellis, Cauley, and Malik Price-Martin from '13. We'll see how long we can stay in the hunt for any/all of those guys.
Ellis is '12 no?
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Yep, as are Cauley and Smart. Cam Ridley from Houston area is another 5*/consensus Top 10 kid from that class we've been named as recruiting but he's probably a longshot at best.
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Yep, as are Cauley and Smart. Cam Ridley from Houston area is another 5*/consensus Top 10 kid from that class we've been named as recruiting but he's probably a longshot at best.
UW have we officially been out of the running for torian graham (12) for awhile now? Obviously the DC assault pipeline is alive and flowing.
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I think it's safe to say we're out of the running for Graham now, haven't seen him mention us since last summer, of course that's right about when he really blew up. He had a couple updates from the recent DC hoops festival where he played and did not mention the KSU Cats. So yeah, I think it's pretty clear that he's no longer an option for us.
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Is DC dead for us now? Seems kinda like it is.
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Is DC dead for us now? Seems kinda like it is.
DCA has 3 known(to me at least, ha!) high-major prospects in the Class of '13, Nate Britt, Kris Jenkins, and Rayjay Bullock, none of whom are mentioning KSU as even a preliminary school of interest.
So to answer your question, I tried to hold out hope as long as I could, but man I think it's done, dead as a doornail.
TX, FL, and KC(maybe), here we come. :ksu:
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From the Whataburger tourney, Smart's Flower Mound Marcus team got a W earlier today and that sets them up for a semifinal matchup tonight at 8 against Gipson's Cedar Hill squad. Notes from ESPN blog pasted and linked below:
"No. 1 Flower Mound Marcus 71, Houston Wheatley 62
Marcus had four scorers in double digits, led by big man Nick Banyard with 17. Phillip Forte followed Banyard with 16 points. A.J. Luckey and Marcus Smart came next with 15 and 14, respectively.
Wheatley's Randy Lewis led all scorers with 26 points.
The game was a track meet, especially in the second quarter when Wheatley switched to a zone full-court press. The defensive switch allowed for 23 Marcus points in the second quarter, most off the fast break.
Cedar Hill 78, Trinity Catholic (Ky.) 35
The game's leading scorer was Cedar Hill's Thomas Gipson (22), whose last basket came on a thundering dunk on a drive down the middle.
Gipson was followed by Zeldric King with 13 points. Trinity's leading scorer, Nathan Dieudonne, only had eight points."
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/high-school/tag/_/name/2010-whataburger-tournament
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Has been very aggravating to follow Smart playing for a team named Marcus.
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The Marcus crew handles Cedar Hill, 59-43, from the ESPN blog also linked above:
"No. 1 Flower Mound Marcus 59, No. 4 Cedar Hill 43
Marcus Smart and Phillip Forte led scoring for Marcus, both with 16 points.
Devonte Green was the only Cedar Hill player with double digit scoring, finishing with 14 points.
The entire game was a defensive struggle, with only a combined 18 points from both teams in the first quarter. Cedar Hill was blanked for a good portion of the opening frame.
Both teams remained even throughout the course of the game until Marcus pulled away in the fourth, outscoring Cedar Hill 22-15. "
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/high-school/tag/_/name/2010-whataburger-tournament
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Sounds like Gip is already getting some "tough love", I hope he can get used to it.
"Cedar Hill (16-2), No. 4 in the coaches 5A state rankings, played without Kansas State signee Thomas Gipson, who sat out on a coach's decision. "
http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/12/27/2729063/live-whataburger-orange.html
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Sounds like Gip is already getting some "tough love", I hope he can get used to it.
"Cedar Hill (16-2), No. 4 in the coaches 5A state rankings, played without Kansas State signee Thomas Gipson, who sat out on a coach's decision. "
http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/12/27/2729063/live-whataburger-orange.html
He should be ready to play for Frank then. :rolleyes:
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New 'cruting strategy, recruit players who,regardless of talent, are familiar with and have already been exposed to the "doghouse".
No way that fails. No. Way. :thumbsup:
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Has been very aggravating to follow Smart playing for a team named Marcus.
Yeah, I thought he was averaging like 70 points a game for a while.
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Updates from a couple recent games for Diaz. Just after Christmas, Diaz' Hialeah Lakes team took on Grandview Prep(also from S. Fla) which features 6'9" 4* in class of '12 Ismaila Dauda, who's committed to Miami. Grandview got the W 74-62, but Diaz showed well scoring 27 pts.
http://www.sun-sntinel.com/sports/highschool/basketball/palmboys/fl-pbb1-1227-20101227,0,2710885.story
Then, last night Diaz posted a triple double in his team's victory over Hialeah Gardens. He put up 30 pts, 16 boards, and 12 blocks.
(I found this nugget about his last game on the ESPN ticker, which is tough to link, but if you want to check it out, go there)
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Updates from a couple recent games for Diaz. Just after Christmas, Diaz' Hialeah Lakes team took on Grandview Prep(also from S. Fla) which features 6'9" 4* in class of '12 Ismaila Dauda. Grandview got the W 74-62, but Diaz showed well scoring 27 pts.
http://www.sun-sntinel.com/sports/highschool/basketball/palmboys/fl-pbb1-1227-20101227,0,2710885.story
Then, last night Diaz posted a triple double in his team's victory over Hialeah Gardens. He put up 30 pts, 16 boards, and 12 blocks.
(I found this nugget about his last game on the ESPN ticker, which is tough to link, but if you want to check it out, go there)
:eek:
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Is there any available video of Diaz?
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Is there any available video of Diaz?
Just watch JO
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That's the kind of comparison I was hoping to judge. Don't think JO ever put up those kinds of number (although fully possible he could have had double digit blocks and rebounds}.
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Limestone is just being :opcat: he doesn't actually have any idea what he's talking about here.
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Limestone is just being :opcat: he doesn't actually have any idea what he's talking about here.
You would actually believe that JO and Diaz are same ethnicity.
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Who cares how are 3 STARS are doing. They can suck my D*CK. :)
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Who cares how are 3 STARS are doing. They can suck my D*CK. :)
D*CK
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Who cares how are 3 STARS are doing. They can suck my D*CK. :)
D*CK
x's 2
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Bossi with pretty good writeup on KS prospects after watching several of them this past week. Along with the obvious, Gavin Thurman from Wichita SE is the only other prospect I've seen us mentioned in connection included in this report. Free.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1174649
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future ksu headline after a win: Touched by an Angel: KSU destroys Savanah State behind Angel's 20 points and 10 assists
http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/sports/headlines/Florida_school_downs_Hawks_114405674.html (http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/sports/headlines/Florida_school_downs_Hawks_114405674.html)
you're supposed to be able to watch Dr. Krop vs. Miller Grover today at 4pm EST:
http://www.ihigh.com/gymratinsider/broadcast_145667.html?silverlight=1 (http://www.ihigh.com/gymratinsider/broadcast_145667.html?silverlight=1)
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Gipson: 8 points, 6 rebounds, 4 fouls. Also, the article noted that last year against the same team, he missed a FT that could have won the game. So he's definitely got the "fit" that frank wants.
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/high-school/post/_/id/4540/no-5-cedar-hill-solidifies-hold-on-5-5a-lead (http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/high-school/post/_/id/4540/no-5-cedar-hill-solidifies-hold-on-5-5a-lead)
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future you're supposed to be able to watch Dr. Krop vs. Miller Grover today at 4pm EST:
http://www.ihigh.com/gymratinsider/broadcast_145667.html?silverlight=1 (http://www.ihigh.com/gymratinsider/broadcast_145667.html?silverlight=1)
For those planning to tune in, watch Angel's every move, get the scoop, but don't forget about Haughton, 6'8"-6'9" ish, #44 for Krop, can't miss him.
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Who cares how are 3 STARS are doing. They can suck my D*CK. :)
I cannot stand it when people use "are" instead of "our".
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Watched Spradling last night and he had a quiet 31 points against a shitty but inspired Lawrence team. SMS runs no offense. They spread the floor, let Will penetrate, kick, and curl/rebound. They should have lost the game. Will has a great stroke. This is just my opinion but I see him being a spot up shooter type like Reed/Morningstar without their defensive ability. He won't be able to stay in front of most D1 PGs. He has to put on about 15 to 20 lbs of muscle and turn into a driveway shooter. That's going to be his role if I had to guess at this point. He isn't quick enough to create his own shot.
It wouldn't surprise me if he was a perpetual bench player ala C Merrs...
went back through the thread and found this. spot on eval bigwillie. this had to be what the staff saw too, guess thats what they wanted.
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future you're supposed to be able to watch Dr. Krop vs. Miller Grover today at 4pm EST:
http://www.ihigh.com/gymratinsider/broadcast_145667.html?silverlight=1 (http://www.ihigh.com/gymratinsider/broadcast_145667.html?silverlight=1)
For those planning to tune in, watch Angel's every move, get the scoop, but don't forget about Haughton, 6'8"-6'9" ish, #44 for Krop, can't miss him.
Caught this game starting halfway thru the 2nd qtr. Krop got a big win over nationally ranked Miller Grove. It is important to note that Krop is a very good and deep team, so while Rodriguez appeared to be their best player, it was not essential for him to be on the floor in order for his team to succeed. I didn't see him play in the 1st and I believe he played around 10-11 mins in 2nd. Knocked a couple treys off catch and shoot situations, had 1 one pretty good take and finish in a halfcourt set. Wouldn't say he has a great handle, but appeared he had a decent one, did struggle a bit with decision-making, ie forcing passes, dribbling into trouble. By my count he had 12 pts in the 2nd half, a couple steals where he showed good anticipation, 2-3 FT's, at least 4 TO's(bear in mind, this was against a high-level team, so any mistakes made would be magnified.
Honestly, Meyer's and Bossi's take on him from the City of Palms appeared to be pretty accurate. Moral of the story? He looks like a solid prospect but DON'T EXPECT MIRACLES, especially early.
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the game is archived, or at least still viewable at the link mentioned.
it's amazing any hs players develop into big 12 players. they're all so bad.
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NORCROSS — Miller Grove won’t have fond memories of its trip to the Marriott Invitational. It was where the previously unbeaten Wolverines’ hopes of finishing No. 1 in the nation died.
Dr. Krop of Miami led from the start and was up by 16 midway through the fourth quarter before securing a 70-63 victory in Saturday’s first game before a near-capacity crowd at Norcross High School.
Dr. Krop (20-2) came in ranked No. 24 by ESPN Rise, while Miller Grove was No. 3 in that poll and No. 4 in the USA Today rankings. But the Florida school was able to withstand Miller Grove’s superiority inside with its superb guard play.
Angel Rodriguez, who is going to Kansas State, had 16 points, seven steals and three assists, while Cody Mann had 16 points and five assists. Dr. Krop also got 16 points off the bench from Bryan Delaney.
Tony Parker had 19 points, 13 rebounds and four blocked shots for Miller Grove (16-1). But nine of his points came in the first quarter and the 6-foot-9 junior was just 5-for-10 from the foul line.
Dr. Krop jumped ahead 7-1 and then, after the defending Class AAAA state champs closed to 16-13 at the end of the opening quarter, built as much as a 15-point lead in the second quarter before the Wolverines cut the deficit back to 37-27 at halftime.
Parker had 11 points and 10 rebounds in the first half, but Miller Grove was 2-for-9 at the foul line. Mann had 10 points and Delaney scored nine.
Rodriguez had seven points in the third quarter and Dr. Krop went into the final quarter up 52-34. The lead was 60-44 with 5:40 remaining before Miller Grove mounted a rally to close to 66-60 with 1:04 left. Rodriguez iced the win on a pair of foul shots with 24.7 seconds remaining.
Miller Grove has a victory over defending Class AAAAA state champ Milton and won the Beach Ball Classic after Christmas
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Triple-overtime-game-finishes-with-bizarre-38-31?urn=highschool-312968 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Triple-overtime-game-finishes-with-bizarre-38-31?urn=highschool-312968)
Marcus barn burner
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Triple-overtime-game-finishes-with-bizarre-38-31?urn=highschool-312968 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Triple-overtime-game-finishes-with-bizarre-38-31?urn=highschool-312968)
Marcus barn burner
That coach is a douche.
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Triple-overtime-game-finishes-with-bizarre-38-31?urn=highschool-312968 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Triple-overtime-game-finishes-with-bizarre-38-31?urn=highschool-312968)
Marcus barn burner
That coach is a douche.
Why?
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Triple-overtime-game-finishes-with-bizarre-38-31?urn=highschool-312968 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Triple-overtime-game-finishes-with-bizarre-38-31?urn=highschool-312968)
Marcus barn burner
That coach is a douche.
Why?
It's not good for the kids (on either team), and it's very douchey.
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should a shot clock be implemented in High School?
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Triple-overtime-game-finishes-with-bizarre-38-31?urn=highschool-312968 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Triple-overtime-game-finishes-with-bizarre-38-31?urn=highschool-312968)
Marcus barn burner
That coach is a douche.
Why?
It's not good for the kids (on either team), and it's very douchey.
agreed...would be much better for the West kids to get blown out by 30 but jack up shots at will. at least they think they are cool and get to shoot a lot. a deliberate pace seems very traumatizing for both sides....prob should get the authoritites involved.
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should a shot clock be implemented in High School?
Yes.
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a shot clock in high school would be hilarious. do you see who they get to run the game clock at small town games? It's basically the lunch lady back there who already forgets to start/stop the clock 10 times a game.
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a shot clock in high school would be hilarious. do you see who they get to run the game clock at small town games? It's basically the lunch lady back there who already forgets to start/stop the clock 10 times a game.
I got to run the scoreboard at a jr. high game once. I was 16. True story.
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Triple-overtime-game-finishes-with-bizarre-38-31?urn=highschool-312968 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Triple-overtime-game-finishes-with-bizarre-38-31?urn=highschool-312968)
Marcus barn burner
That coach is a douche.
Why?
It's not good for the kids (on either team), and it's very douchey.
agreed...would be much better for the West kids to get blown out by 30 but jack up shots at will. at least they think they are cool and get to shoot a lot. a deliberate pace seems very traumatizing for both sides....prob should get the authoritites involved.
So the only available options are to have 2-minute long possessions or "jack up shots at will"? That coach sucks.
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she also accidentally blows the buzzer a few times when reaching for the possesion change arrow switch.
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a shot clock in high school would be hilarious. do you see who they get to run the game clock at small town games? It's basically the lunch lady back there who already forgets to start/stop the clock 10 times a game.
I got to run the scoreboard at a jr. high game once. I was 16. True story.
I was a ref for a junior high game when I was in High school. One of the refs didn't show up and I knew the other one from church. I wasn't supposed to be reffing but they didn't have a choice other than cancel the game and the coaches agreed to let me ref. It was fun.
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Yeah a coach developing a gameplan that allows his team to compete.
Totally douchey. :goodbyecruelworld:
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Yeah a coach developing a gameplan that allows his team to compete.
Totally douchey. :goodbyecruelworld:
The coach is not competing (or gameplanning) at all. He's an attention whore who cares more about himself than his kids. Douche.
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I can see positives and fault with both coaches. I can't fault a coach that lost by double digits at home to one of the Top teams not only in the state, but in the nation, devising a gameplan to try to win and get his team closer to the playoffs. But I've never liked HS coaches going to the stall/hold the ball strategy either, but with no shot clock they are certainly free to do it.
For the other coach obviously he's doing something right b/c he has one of the Top HS teams in TX and the country. My point about him would be if you are really that good, why let some average HS TX team dictate tempo and pace. If you are really that good (and he even admitted he anticipated they might stall), then put in some half court pressure defense to take the inferior team that wants to stall out of their plan. I mean it sound like they pretty much let them stand around at times in the game, pressure the ball and force the tempo with your team.
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http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/28/2039834/top-ranked-krop-might-have-to.html
:frown:
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http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/28/2039834/top-ranked-krop-might-have-to.html
:frown:
"Earlier this week, Delancy did not play either when Krop lost to Hialeah-Miami Lakes."
Would love to see at least a boxscore on this game(Miami Lakes is Diaz' team), but no luck searching the interwebs for it.
Real tough luck for the Kropsters, hopefully they'll at least get a chance to compete in the State Playoffs.
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you play to win the game*
Herman Edwards.
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Without Delancy, Krop lost to Miami Lakes or Diaz's team. Story comments are interesting.
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Without Delancy, Krop lost to Miami Lakes or Diaz's team. Story comments are interesting.
ya
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGvQzDzq9lo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGvQzDzq9lo)
Who is Cody Mann?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGvQzDzq9lo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGvQzDzq9lo)
Who is Cody Mann?
See the posts from late November of this past year.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=131.140
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Has been fun reading Northstarbball driving all over the state trying to find the Krop game that may now no longer exist
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The TABC boys rankings might need a little calibration after Friday night.
Three of the top four teams in the state 5A rankings, all area teams -- Flower Mound Marcus, Cedar Hill DeSoto -- barely made it past their opponents on Friday night.
Flower Mound Marcus, ranked No. 2 in the TABC rankings, won the most convincingly of the three, beating Plano, 51-46. Marcus Smart scored a game-high 20, but it wasn't a cake walk for Marcus (27-1, 9-0 in District 8-5A). Plano (17-10, 4-5) had a chance to tie the game in the closing seconds, but a three-point attempt by Clayton Parlin didn't go down. Phil Forte, Jr. made two free throws in the closing seconds to give Marcus the five-point win. Marcus has three straight single-digit wins in 8-5A play.
DeSoto, ranked No. 3, needed overtime to avoid its second-straight district loss, beating Longview at home, 56-49. DeSoto (26-3, 4-1) will surely fall in the rankings, considering it lost to Mesquite on Tuesday, 51-44. But two straight losses would have found them at risk of falling out of the top 10. Longview (18-6, 2-3) outscored DeSoto 21-9 in the fourth quarter to send the game to OT, but could only muster three points in the extra period.
Cedar Hill, ranked No. 4, needed a standout performance by its star, Thomas Gipson, to squeak by Mansfield Timberview, 56-54. Gipson, a Kansas State signee, had 24 points and 12 rebounds for Cedar Hill (25-2, 9-0 in District 5-5A). The game was tied, 40-40, heading into the final quarter. Timberview (14-13, 4-5) started the season by alternating wins and losses over its first 10 games.
At least the No. 1 and No. 5 teams, also area teams, won handily. Garland Lakeview Centennial, the state's top team, beat Naaman Forest, 73-49, while North Crowley beat Fort Worth Paschal, 61-37.
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lol, he looks gigantic
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lol, he looks gigantic
And far more adorable than his last pics.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGvQzDzq9lo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGvQzDzq9lo)
Who is Cody Mann?
they really do need a point guard
i don't know whether to laugh or cry
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gipson kind of looks like Dejuan Blair. :love:
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gipson kind of looks like Dejuan Blair. :love:
yep :love:
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Still think we should've tried to slip him in at the A&M game. :dunno:
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Florida's high school activities association still hasn't made a ruling on the Bahamas kid or Krop's season.
Box score from Monday tournament game Krop was dis-invited to because that uncertainty. Couldn't find any thing newer.
• Greater Miami Athletic Conference quarterfinal – Hialeah-Miami Lakes 48, South Miami 46 – SM: Smith 2, Hill 17, Cratit 11, Ruiz 12, Caster 2, Simmons 2. HML (20-3): Vandiver 7, Yannini, Tanis 7, Diaz 11, M.Williams 17, Balbuena 5. Halftime: HML 18-9. Three-pointers: Vandiver, Tanis 2, Balbuena, Hill 3, Cratit 2. Rebounds: Diaz 9. Assists: Yannini 3, Diaz 3. Steals: D. Williams 4.
Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/31/2044373_p2/future-of-krop-boys-basketball.html#ixzz1DCPVrpE6
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http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_highschool_varsity/2011/02/07/fhsaa-sets-emergency-hearing-on-dr-krop-basketball-for-tuesday/
from comments...
Can it just be a coincidence that #1 players from all around the United States and other countries are coming to play for Krop? Why doesn’t the Coach play fair and square and give other South Floridians the chance to excel instead of trying to be ahead of the other schools by cheating. Has the Coach forgotten what the
sport really means? How far will he go. How many years will this go on!!!!! He follows Frank Martin’s steps as they both coached Miami High. And guess who has been recruited to K-state by Frank Martin, Angel Rodriguez!
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What a horrible person Art is. He is helping kids get recruited and go to college. COLLEGE for christ sake!
Monster.
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What a horrible person Art is. He is helping kids get recruited and go to college. COLLEGE for christ sake!
Monster.
Agreed. How many kids will he help get exposure and an opportunity at a 4 year degree that the kid could never have gotten without Art's help before someone says "enough is enough!"?
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Some stuff from TX
http://rise.espn.go.com/boys-basketball/articles/2011/02/08-TX-State-Top-20-Overall-Rankings.aspx
3. Marcus (Flower Mound, Texas) 28-1 (3)
The Marauders took down Allen 62-50, behind 6-foot-4 wing Marcus Smart’s 18 points on Monday.
9. Cedar Hill (Cedar Hill, Texas) 25-2 (9)
Thomas Gipson, a 6-foot-7, 240-pound Kansas State signee, has led the Longhorns to a 9-0 record in District 5-5A.
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Gipson 6-7? Why do I expect him to show up on campus at 6-5?
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Krop's last ditch effort to save their season.
Probably have as good of a shot of winning the appeal as Curt does :flush:
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/US/02/09/florida.player.eligibility/
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Gipson 6-7? Why do I expect him to show up on campus at 6-5?
Because you aren't a dumbass
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Fellas, unless this picture is photoshopped or he's playing in a pygmy pickup game, he's gotta be at least 6'7" right??? It looks unnatural, he's so much bigger.
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Either way, a dude that broad will be able to make space in the paint, mitigating his "diminutive/diminuating) stature".
Question: why does everyone have on the same sneakers???
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Fellas, unless this picture is photoshopped or he's playing in a pygmy pickup game, he's gotta be at least 6'7" right??? It looks unnatural, he's so much bigger.
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Either way, a dude that broad will be able to make space in the paint, mitigating his "diminutive/diminuating) stature".
Question: why does everyone have on the same sneakers???
Big hands. fills adorable quota. Pulling his weight.
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Krop's last ditch effort to save their season.
Probably have as good of a shot of winning the appeal as Curt does :flush:
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/US/02/09/florida.player.eligibility/
krop wins, curtis to follow. :kstatriot:
The Krop High School Boys Basketball team is use to dominating on the basketball court, but the biggest down-to-the-wire victory of their season so far came Wednesday in a Miami-Dade courtroom.
Circuit Court Judge Spencer Eig granted a temporary injunction that will allow the team to compete in boys’ district championships that start Friday. Decked out in their purple and white basketball uniforms, the players punched the air in excitement upon hearing Eig’s decision.
“I think it would be fundamentally unfair not to let these kids play Basketball," Eig said before making his final ruling.
It’s a big win for the county’s top team, told a day earlier by the Florida High School Athletic Association that it could not advance to the district tournament because the school had failed to file necessary paperwork for star player Brian Delancy, a Bahamian national here on a student visa.
The association said the team would have to forfeit the 19 games in which Delancy played, essentially wiping out the team’s stellar 20-3 season.
Delancy, 19, said he was “too nervous” to sit through the hearing so he remained outside of the Miami-Dade County Courthouse awaiting Eig’s verdict before joining his jubilent teammates in hugs and high fives.
“I’m happy we get to play together as a team,” said Delancy, a senior guard. “What happened today was a big deal.”
For days there had been uncertainty surrounding the team’s ability to move ahead with tournament play, following a complaint made to the FHSAA questioning Delancy’s eligibility to play. The association – which regulates high school athletics throughout the state – requires schools to fill out paperwork for international students. Though Delancy had filled out the necessary paperwork to play at Miami Choice Academy last year, he ended up transferring to Krop this year.
The team’s head coach, Shakey Rodriguez, a veteran high school and FIU basketball coach, had said he was unaware of the paperwork.
In addition, the team’s attorneys argued in court that state law, as well as the school’s policy manual, prevents school staff from asking students about their immigration status.
“We’re focusing on Brian Delancy, but we’re forgetting about the. . .14 other boys who sweated and toiled in practice. . . really for some technicality,” attorney Alan Goldfarb said at the hearing.
The FHSAA countered that by not following the guidelines for international students, Krop was taking a spot from teams who had not violated any of the association’s policies.
“You’ll be pulling one team out and putting one team in,” FHSAA attorney Leonard Ireland told Eig. “If you pull out the team that’s number four, you’re denying them their right to play.’’
Eig said his decision was aimed at giving both sides more time for the “issue to be fully examined,” noting that the Tuesday FHSAA appeal hearing held via teleconference was “a very rushed hearing.”
The possibility still remains that if a follow up FHSAA investigation upholds the agency’s original decision, the school could have to forfeit any games it wins after the hearing, including the coveted State Championship title the team has its sights set on.
But that was a prospect too far down the road for the team to worry about, as players and their supporters celebrated Eig’s ruling.
When the hearing was adjourned, cheers and applause broke out and the team formed a huddle, congratulating one another and giving each other hugs.
“We have this fire behind us now to make sure we stay number one,” said Patrick George, 18, a senior point guard and the team’s captain.
When the news was announced at the Miami-Dade School Board meeting Wednesday, the audience of teachers and school administrators erupted into cheers.
“I celebrate alongside Krop Senior High School for the fact that this great team is going to be able to continue to play,” Miami-Dade schools Superintendent Alberto Carvalho said.
Still, Carvalho continued to express concern over the FHSAA policy of requiring additional paperwork for foreign students.
“If we do not ask students their immigration status for seven hours and 20 minutes a day, why should we be in the position of asking them before school and after school?” he said. “It really puts all of us in a precarious situation.”
School Board member Martin Karp, whose district Krop high is in, pointed out that the students learned an important lesson about the judicial process, too.
“Looking back, it’s an amazing experience that they will all remember,” Karp said. “Hopefully, they’ll continue to achieve success.”
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Outcome seems pretty reasonable as presented, not following the whole ordeal personally.
Now we need Currie to see the light about a little :bigtoke: so we can :woot:
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GO GET'EM SHAKEY! :emawkid:
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kropgratulations!
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Alan Goldfarb? That dude is definitely Jewish.
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Krop's last ditch effort to save their season.
Probably have as good of a shot of winning the appeal as Curt does :flush:
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/US/02/09/florida.player.eligibility/
krop wins, curtis to follow. :kstatriot:
There is hope :crossfingers:
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“I think it would be fundamentally unfair not to let these kids play Basketball," Currie said before making his final ruling.
:emawkid:
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“I think it would be fundamentally unfair not to let these kids play Basketball," Currie said before making his final ruling.
:emawkid:
:dubious:
Dammit sd, I thought this was for real.
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“I think it would be fundamentally unfair not to let these kids play Basketball," Currie said before making his final ruling.
:emawkid:
:dubious:
Dammit sd, I thought this was for real.
Would be in CK thread
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Angel gets 32.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/02/10/2061236/embattled-krop-prevails-against.html
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Angel gets 32.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/02/10/2061236/embattled-krop-prevails-against.html
My god, it's a one man show :love:
KR: Rodriguez 32, Haughton 6, Karell 2, Mann 5, Rivera 2, Delancy 9.
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I have no idea what this means but I'm pretty sure it's awesome
SO, YOU SEE PEOPLE WE WERE TRYING TO HELP THEM OUT, BUT THEY CHOSE TO IGNORE IT. I FEEL SORRY FOR THOSE KIDS! IF THEY WIN STATE (jackson5 all over again). SORRY LARRYRODRIQUEZ! GOOD GAME.. ( missed free throws!). CHIEF PRIDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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the players punched the air in excitement upon hearing Eig’s decision.
It's called a fist pump noob. :rolleyes:
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More on Shaky and Krop. Martin's name, of course, comes up.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/02/13/2064266_p3/breaches-in-krop-saga-put-focus.html
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Saturday night's district championship game between the Krop High School basketball team and Hialeah-Miami Lakes was won with a buzzer-beater.
Krop was almost ineligible for the post-season because the Florida High School Athletic Association determined they didn't file the correct immigration papers for player Brian Delancy. But a Miami judge decided it would be unfair to keep the whole team from playing.
Krop then went out and won the district championship 57-55 in dramatic fasion. The game was tied with 5 seconds left. Angel Rodriguez got the steal and hit the game winner.
also found this while looking for the krop-mhl game results.
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/02/krop_high_basketball_scandal_w_1.php
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Krop then went out and won the district championship 57-55 in dramatic fasion. The game was tied with 5 seconds left. Angel Rodriguez got the steal and hit the game winner.
:love:
I love Angel more than any recruit we've ever had.
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Krop then went out and won the district championship 57-55 in dramatic fasion. The game was tied with 5 seconds left. Angel Rodriguez got the steal and hit the game winner.
:love:
I love Angel more than any recruit we've ever had.
Beasley/Walker?
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Tyree is my favorite recruit ever.
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Tyree is my favorite recruit ever.
Easily was the greatest story ever told.
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Tyree is my favorite recruit ever.
Easily was the greatest story ever told.
:foottappingguy:
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http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/02/angel_rodriguez_krop_high_bask.php
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/02/krop_high_basketball_scandal_w_1.php
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http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/02/angel_rodriguez_krop_high_bask.php
MCMW --- It's a start.
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http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/02/angel_rodriguez_krop_high_bask.php
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/02/krop_high_basketball_scandal_w_1.php
"She then called back and threatened legal action if "anything is published on my stepson" before quickly hanging up."
lol
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limestone or bsac, does kansas have an extradition treaty with florida? i'd like to see ar-t lead mhs to the state title (underneath the watchful eye of coach wallace judge).
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http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/02/angel_rodriguez_krop_high_bask.php
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/02/krop_high_basketball_scandal_w_1.php
Assuming they come out of this unscathed, it looks like Rodríguez and Kroc are a great pipeline for the future. VERY nice! :emawkid:
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http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/02/angel_rodriguez_krop_high_bask.php
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/02/krop_high_basketball_scandal_w_1.php
Assuming they come out of this unscathed, it looks like Rodríguez and Kroc are a great pipeline for the future. VERY nice! :emawkid:
I've never understood what Miami's version of Pitch Weekly has against Shaky and his guys.
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http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/02/angel_rodriguez_krop_high_bask.php
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/02/krop_high_basketball_scandal_w_1.php
Assuming they come out of this unscathed, it looks like Rodríguez and Kropc are a great pipeline for the future. VERY nice! :emawkid:
I've never understood what Miami's version of Pitch Weekly has against Shaky and his guys.
:dunno: Seems like a humanitarian to me. All's he's doin' is helping these kids realize the American dream while playing a little round ball.
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Krop then went out and won the district championship 57-55 in dramatic fasion. The game was tied with 5 seconds left. Angel Rodriguez got the steal and hit the game winner.
:love:
I love Angel more than any recruit we've ever had.
Beasley/Walker?
I have a bigger man crush on him than I did Beasley/Walker. I just loved Beasley/Walker because of what it meant for the program.
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the haters emerge victorious.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/basketball/sfl-krop-basketball-injunction-lifted,0,6147968.story
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I really like the thought of being a rebel program, in the mold of Huggy's Cincy squad. I welcome Angel with open arms.
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the haters emerge victorious.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/basketball/sfl-krop-basketball-injunction-lifted,0,6147968.story
In the end, no one remembers that Memphis technically never won a game that Derrick Rose played in.
They remembered he lead them to the national championship game.
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In the end, no one remembers that Memphis technically never won a game that Derrick Rose played in.
They remembered he lead them to the national championship game.
yeah, something like that would have eaten at the haters' souls forever. this is more like if rose got to the sweet 16 and then was barred from participating in the remaining games, which is a clear win for the haters.
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Diaz turns his game up a notch(or two)
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/02/17/2072934/diaz-sparks-trojans.html?story_link=email_msg
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Diaz turns his game up a notch(or two)
:surprised:
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So how tall is Diaz? Seen him listed at 6-10, 6-11, and 7 foot.
In the two pictures, he appears long, lean put with some muscle. I'm hopeful.
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Yeah, Scout, Rivals, and ESPN have him at 6'10", 6'11", and 7'0" respectively, official KSU press release from when he signed says 6'11" but I think they just used Rivals #'s. Just as a compromise I'll go with 6'11" for now until I get some in-person comparisons, which probably won't happen until next fall.
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http://blindnumbers.com/2011/02/19/rodriguez-talks-about-k-state-commitment/
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http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/02/17/2072934/diaz-sparks-trojans.html?story_link=email_msg
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http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/02/17/2072934/diaz-sparks-trojans.html?story_link=email_msg
Diaz took a quick pass and, after a couple of dribbles, pulled up and buried a three-pointer from the wing with 1.5 seconds left.
:emawkid:
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I remember when some detractor was saying Diaz would be the next JHR, like that was a bad thing.
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You guys are 24 hours late to Underdog Wildcat's party.
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I remember when some detractor was saying Diaz would be the next JHR, like that was a bad thing.
not a bad thing, necessarily. a redundant thing though, especially if you add it cauley as a third jhr. ideally, i think you'd want more diversity in your frontcourt. at this point though, just getting five decent bigs will feel like a win.
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Diaz was born in Miami to Cuban parents.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/02/25/2084605/adrian-diaz-has-hml-on-verge-of.html
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Diaz, the top-rated center in Florida by ESPN
Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/02/25/2084605/adrian-diaz-has-hml-on-verge-of.html#ixzz1F0rtg8hN
Feels good. :gocho:
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PatrickGeorge11 Patrick George
Happy that HML lost cause you know cheaters never prosper! Dr. Krop REAL state champions!
i wonder if diaz and ar-t hate each other?
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PatrickGeorge11 Patrick George
Happy that HML lost cause you know cheaters never prosper! Dr. Krop REAL state champions!
i wonder if diaz and ar-t hate each other?
def weird. huh?
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They are both mexicans, just friendly competition.
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Gip with 28 pt, 14 board performance to lead his team into District semis
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/high-school/post/_/id/5287/cedar-hill-slips-by-col-heritage-in-2-ot
And FWIW, Smart has another all around dominating game
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/high-school/post/_/id/5298/smart-powers-fm-marcus-over-lewisville
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Wish the coaches could be there for this one
Big_Gip_Kstate thomas gipson
Tomorrow we need everybody to come to Wilkerson greins. We play flowermound Marcus at 1!! We need everybody support for this game.
also
Big_Gip_Kstate thomas gipson
On another note I had 24pts 13reb.
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Sorta OT but which recruit were the coaches watching tonight while The Mayor is watching film, knee deep in sewage?
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Sorta OT but which recruit were the coaches watching tonight while The Mayor is watching film, knee deep in sewage?
underwood was watching ellis. no idea on the others.
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Yeah, noticed that in the '12 thread. Good for him. Heights v SE should have been a decent game. It wasn't. Heights is really good. Anyway, I was thinking somone was watching Smart. I was wrong.
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Yeah, noticed that in the '12 thread. Good for him. Heights v SE should have been a decent game. It wasn't. Heights is really good. Anyway, I was thinking somone was watching Smart. I was wrong.
figger was recruiting in dallas on tuesday. speculation was that he prolly visited smart. it isn't know when/if he returned to mhk.
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Question. How do these recruits' performances transfer to the D-1 level? I haven't been in on following recruiting for more than 2 years. Still haven't gotten the hang of it. These performances sound pretty solid to me. Does this mean a possibility of role players next year or mostly bench, or are they better than that? What's the scoop?
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You sound like a squawk. Douche.
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You sound like a squawk. Douche.
Are you talking to yourself?
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Question. How do these recruits' performances transfer to the D-1 level? I haven't been in on following recruiting for more than 2 years. Still haven't gotten the hang of it. These performances sound pretty solid to me. Does this mean a possibility of role players next year or mostly bench, or are they better than that? What's the scoop?
Diaz appears to be a much better Jordan Henriquez Roberts at the high school level. By accounts seems quite a bit further along offensively at this point, but will still be a bit of a project. Probably not contributing much as freshman like JO.
Gipson draws comparisons to Marshall Moses, bruiser, undersized type post-player - hopefully as productive at the college level.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-Marshall-Moses-30155 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-Marshall-Moses-30155)
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Thomas-Gipson-93329 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Thomas-Gipson-93329)
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Question. How do these recruits' performances transfer to the D-1 level? I haven't been in on following recruiting for more than 2 years. Still haven't gotten the hang of it. These performances sound pretty solid to me. Does this mean a possibility of role players next year or mostly bench, or are they better than that? What's the scoop?
Diaz appears to be a much better Jordan Henriquez Roberts at the high school level. By accounts seems quite a bit further along offensively at this point, but will still be a bit of a project. Probably not contributing much as freshman like JO.
Gibson draws comparisons to Marshall Moses, bruiser, undersized type post-player - hopefully as productive at the college level.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-Marshall-Moses-30155 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-Marshall-Moses-30155)
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Thomas-Gipson-93329 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Thomas-Gipson-93329)
Without using any scientific methods other than simply comparing their frames, it would appear that Diaz may actually have the ability to put on a little more mass and carry it well as opposed to JHR being rail thin forevermore.
Agree wholeheartedly on the Moses comparo.
AR looks like a bulldog-type PG that lacks Clemente's speed, but shares his fearlessness on the offensive end. He isn't afraid to take a shot. Any shot. I anticipate a good deal of benchings his freshman year.
On the surface, none of them look like immediate game changers, but they are a very solid class of future contributors, which you need to have from time to time.
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Without using any scientific methods other than simply comparing their frames, it would appear that Diaz may actually have the ability to put on a little more mass and carry it well as opposed to JHR being rail thin forevermore.
I'm tired of this talking point that JHR can't put on weight. Any normal, healthy person can get bigger/stronger by dedicating themselves to progressive resistance training and eating more protein/calories. Look at this guy:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bodybuilding.com%2Ffun%2Ftblue.jpg&hash=0d01b3b57611f8141ff93c9ed14e00123ef37712)
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JHR was a proven scorer at the HS level. Supposedly, he even had outside shooting ability. At the HS level.
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JHR was a proven scorer at the HS level. Supposedly, he even had outside shooting ability. At the HS level.
He does. Remember Midnight Madness this year?
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JHR was a proven scorer at the HS level. Supposedly, he even had outside shooting ability. At the HS level.
He needed to develop a back-to-the-basket game, which he is still working on.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/72668 (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/72668)
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So, your talking point is that Diaz is a finished product and will contribute big points immediately? Are you gonna eat that jello cup?
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So, your talking point is that Diaz is a finished product and will contribute big points immediately? Are you gonna eat that jello cup?
I never said that you rough ridin' jackass.
Christ, you are the most annoying poster I've ever encountered.
:facepalm:
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End scene.
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Would you rough ridin' retards please refrain from being rough ridin' retards in the good threads of my message board? K' thanks.
FORT WORTH -- Flower Mound Marcus doesn’t score many points but doesn’t have to because of its stingy defense. Marcus advanced to its second-consecutive Class 5A state tournament with a 46-38 victory over Cedar Hill on Saturday in the Region I final at Wilkerson-Greines Activity Center.
Marcus (37-1) only scored more than a dozen points in one quarter but never allowed Cedar Hill (33-4) to score more than 12. Ranked No. 2 in the TABC statewide poll, Marcus returns to Austin for the state tournament having beaten No. 5-ranked Cedar Hill and third-ranked North Crowley in the regional semifinals.
“Holding North Crowley and Cedar Hill to 43 and 38 points, what else can you say?” Marcus coach Danny Henderson said. “Those are two teams which could win state but our players have a tremendous amount of heart and believe it will pay off in the fourth quarter. ”
Tied at 26-26 in the final minute of the third quarter, Marcus pulled away as its 3-point shooting again provided just enough of an offensive spark to go along with some heady plays by standout junior guard Marcus Smart. Junior Phil Forte hit one of his five 3-pointers to give Marcus a 29-26 lead heading into the fourth quarter.
Marcus senior Connor Taggart added a 3-pointer for a six-point lead. Smart fought for an offensive rebound and drove the lane to pass for an easy assist to 6-7 junior Nick Banyard to put Marcus up 34-26. Smart stole a pass on Cedar Hill’s ensuing possession to break-away for a two-handed dunk which made it 36-28 with 5:20 left. Forte and Taggart added two more of their combined eight 3-pointers to seal a second-consecutive regional championship. Forte ended with 19 points, Taggart 11 and Smart 10.
"There's a lot of stress late in the game and pressure and some players might want to jump out and try to steal a pass," Henderson said. "But they all stick with our defensive discipline. Everyone except Marcus and he's so smart we let him do what he wants. He's not only the smartest player I've ever coached, he's the smartest I've ever seen."
Cedar Hill senior Thomas Gipson ended with 14 points but was mostly stymied with Marcus’ sagging, man-to-man defense which allowed Banyard and 6-8 junior John Malone to rotate covering Cedar Hill’s 6-7 Kansas State signee with Smart dropping back to double-team when Gipson got possession.
Cedar Hill went scoreless for 5:50 of the first quarter as Marcus jumped out to an 11-0 lead with Forte leading the way with a pair of 3-pointers.
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Sue me.
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Also, if this is a good thread on your message board than my cat's litter box is like the best bbs, ever.
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Also, if this is a good thread on your message board than my cat's litter box is like the best bbs, ever.
That's funny, because I'd rather smell cat piss than read any of your posts.
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You don't even know that you're a turd, do you?
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You don't even know that you're a turd, do you?
He does now. Keep fighting the good fight. :emawkid:
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PatrickGeorge11 Patrick George
Happy that HML lost cause you know cheaters never prosper! Dr. Krop REAL state champions!
i wonder if diaz and ar-t hate each other?
apparently gipson hates smart too. sigh.
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Everyone except Marcus and he's so smart we let him do what he wants. He's not only the smartest player I've ever coached, he's the smartest I've ever seen."
Marcus' smartest player is named Marcus Smart. Cool coincidence.
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Article about FM Marcus' defeat of Cedar Hill with comments about Gipson. Sounds like Cedar Hill was having trouble feeding the ball to the post.
http://www.scntx.com/articles/2011/03/05/sports_update/8544.txt (http://www.scntx.com/articles/2011/03/05/sports_update/8544.txt)
Cedar Hill spent much of the first quarter firing the ball around the perimeter, unable to find Kansas State commit Gipson in the post. The Longhorns didn’t get on the scoreboard until the 2:12 mark of the first quarter. Gipson attempted just two field goals in the first quarter.
“You can’t let Gipson beat you,” Henderson said. “He’s too good. Not only can beat you in points, he can beat you by fouling your guys out. We were going to double him, no question about it.”
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FM Marcus will advance with a 53-41 victory.
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Final score: Flower Mound Marcus 40, Garland Lakeview Centennial 38
5a state champions.
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diaz florida mvp of florida vs usa game. decent roster. usa won.
Florida Roster
* Adonis Burbage, 6-5, F, Orlando Christian Prep (Central Connecticut)
* Will Cummings, 6?-1?, G, Providence School (Temple)
* Shane Larkin, 6?-0?, G, Dr. Phillips (DePaul)
* Daniel Sapp, 6?-3?, G, Northeast (Clemson)
* Adrian Diaz, 6?-11?, C, Hialeah Lakes
* Steve Moundou-Missi, 6?-7?, F, Montverde Academy (Harvard)
* Rod Days, 6?-6?, F, Sagemont (Central Florida)
* Kasey Wilson, 6?-7?, F, North Port (Central Florida)
* Tim Dixon, 6?-10?, C, Oldsmar Christian (Georgia)
* Chris Bryant, 6?-8?, F, Rickards
USA Roster
* Robert Brown, 6?-5?, G, Hargrave Military, VA (Virginia Tech)
* Stevie Taylor, 5?-10?, G, Gahanna Lincoln, OH (Ohio)
* Chasson Randle, 6?-2?, G, Rock Island, IL (Stanford)
* Bishop Daniels, 6?-3?, G, Word of God, NC (Miami)
* Derrick Gordon, 6?-3?, G, St. Patrick, NJ (Western Kentucky)
* Malcolm Brogdon, 6?-5?, G, Greater Atlanta Christian (Virginia)
* Deville Smith, 6?-0?, G, Callaway, MS (Mississippi St)
* Anthony Gill, 6?-8?, F, Charlotte Christian, NC (South Carolina)
* Tyler Harris, 6?-9?, F, St. Benedict, NJ (NC State)
* Joseph Uchebo, 6?-10, C, Word of God, NC (NC State)
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What's the deal with KSU not being listed as Diaz's college?
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What's the deal with KSU not being listed as Diaz's college?
Little worried about this.
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What's the deal with KSU not being listed as Diaz's college?
Little worried about this.
Either he didn't qualify and is going to prep school, or we let him out of his LOI.
Or we can go with the simplest explanation, which is that this was a mistake.
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What's the deal with KSU not being listed as Diaz's college?
Little worried about this.
Either he didn't qualify and is going to prep school, or we let him out of his LOI.
Or we can go with the simplest explanation, which is that this was a mistake.
I don't know. Two things now....1. the vid(didn't watch, but read the reations) and 2. no school listed on the team list above.
Unless I haven't caught up yet, these were by two separate sources.
Smoke...
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Unless I haven't caught up yet, these were by two separate sources.
Smoke...
same source.
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Unless I haven't caught up yet, these were by two separate sources.
Smoke...
same source.
Ahhh.
Ignore me.
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Willie Cauley, C, MoKan Elite- Each time the 6-foot-10 Cauley takes the floor you can see his game developing. Cut out of the mold of a Tyson Chandler type big man, he's a lengthy center who runs the floor, blocks shots and causes troubles with his length. While his offense isn't quite as developed as his defense and rebounding, he's coming around on that end of the floor and is an outstanding passer for a kid his size. He was good for 12 points, 11 rebounds and five assists to go along with three blocks and many more altered shots.
Semi Ojeleye is a well built wing from the class of 2013 who had a nice opening night for MoKan Elite. The well built 6-foot-5 wing was aggressive to the rim, knocked down some open looks and appears to be tracking as a high major prospect. ? A teammate of Ojeleye and Willie Cauley on MoKan Elite, 2013 shooting guard Austin Ruder is a dangerous catch and shoot guy. At one point during MoKan's win over King James, the 6-foot-2 Ruder knocked down four straight threes during a four minute span while racking up 18 points. ?
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1209834