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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: OregonSmock on May 16, 2011, 08:47:12 PM
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What do you gain by voting Republican?
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You're vote doesn't matter anyway, unless it's for Ron Paul.
A vote for Obama is the same as a vote for Bush.
And a vote for whatever neo con they put up against Obama is well...a vote for Obama
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This is a KState board, Ben, we're all in the top 2%.
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Because the American Dream is to work your way to the top and be included in that 2%
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You're vote doesn't matter anyway, unless it's for Ron Paul.
A vote for Obama is the same as a vote for Bush.
And a vote for whatever neo con they put up against Obama is well...a vote for Obama
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What do you gain by voting Republican?
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What do you gain by voting Democrat?
:confused:
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You're vote doesn't matter anyway, unless it's for Ron Paul.
A vote for Obama is the same as a vote for Bush.
And a vote for whatever neo con they put up against Obama is well...a vote for Obama
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It's true. You voted for Obama, and he turned out to be a war mongering hypocrite that continues to spend so much that we couldn't pay off the debt in 2 or 3 lifetimes.
Just like Bush.
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What do you gain by voting Republican?
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What do you gain by voting Democrat?
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Economically: middle class tax cuts, improved health care coverage, more funding for education, etc., etc.
Socially: a better environment, improvements in medicine (embryonic stem cell research), protection of constitutional rights, decriminalization of marijuana, more social equality (white/black/gay/straight/man/woman/etc.), upgrades in green technology, more freedom in general, etc., etc.
Politically: the separation of church and state, the implementation of progressive ideologies, a President who doesn't embarrass the entire country and butcher simple words like "nuclear," etc., etc.
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You're vote doesn't matter anyway, unless it's for Ron Paul.
A vote for Obama is the same as a vote for Bush.
And a vote for whatever neo con they put up against Obama is well...a vote for Obama
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It's true. You voted for Obama, and he turned out to be a war mongering hypocrite that continues to spend so much that we couldn't pay off the debt in 2 or 3 lifetimes.
Just like Bush.
JFC.
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Thought Ben made 6 figgas and had 2 mil in the bank? Seems like the type of person who would benny from voting pub. :ck:
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You're vote doesn't matter anyway, unless it's for Ron Paul.
A vote for Obama is the same as a vote for Bush.
And a vote for whatever neo con they put up against Obama is well...a vote for Obama
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It's true. You voted for Obama, and he turned out to be a war mongering hypocrite that continues to spend so much that we couldn't pay off the debt in 2 or 3 lifetimes.
Just like Bush.
JFC.
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Tap out noted. Just admit it Beems, you're too tied up in the right-left paradigm to see that it's EVERYONE'S fault. Not just the democrats, not just the republicans. They all suck ass, and should all be held accountable.
JFC
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What do you gain by voting Republican?
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What do you gain by voting Democrat?
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A dead terrorist
In July 2008, Larry King asked Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), "If you were president and knew that bin Laden was in Pakistan, you know where, would you have U.S. forces go in after him?"
McCain said he would not.
"Larry, I'm not going to go there and here's why: because Pakistan is a sovereign nation."
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What do you gain by voting Republican?
:confused:
What do you gain by voting Democrat?
:confused:
A dead terrorist
In July 2008, Larry King asked Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), "If you were president and knew that bin Laden was in Pakistan, you know where, would you have U.S. forces go in after him?"
McCain said he would not.
"Larry, I'm not going to go there and here's why: because Pakistan is a sovereign nation."
boom, roasted
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I hate this rough ridin' 2 party bullshit, get out of here you faggots.
Republicans and Democrats but suck big rough ridin' nuts.
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What do you gain by voting Republican?
:confused:
What do you gain by voting Democrat?
:confused:
Economically: middle class tax cuts (republican), improved health care coverage (on opposite day), more funding for education (republican), etc., etc.
Socially: a better environment (lol), improvements in medicine (embryonic stem cell research) (lol), protection of constitutional rights (lol), decriminalization of marijuana (what?), more social equality (white/black/gay/straight/man/woman/etc.) (you're white, gays don't have equal rights, "non-negro dialect"), upgrades in green technology (redundant), more freedom in general (redundant and huge lol), etc., etc.
Politically: the separation of church and state (redundant), the implementation of progressive ideologies (which are?), a President who doesn't embarrass the entire country and butcher simple words like "nuclear," etc., etc. (half the country is currently embarrassed)
baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaa ben sheep, can't pull any wool
Please see my comments this thread http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=12834.35 explaining why the top 2%'s marginal tax rate is a total red herring for the unwashed masses such as yourself.
Remember Benjamin, it was the Democrat controlled House, Senate, and Executive that extended those evil Bush tax cuts (right before they gave up control of the house), and raised the unified credit to $5MM (not that you care, with your measly $2mm trust fund).
Seems like a lot of "listen to what I say, not what I do", huh? baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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That is assuming that he actually was killed a couple weeks ago like they told us. I mean yeah he probably was killed, but then again....who knows.
I hate this rough ridin' 2 party bullshit, get out of here you faggots.
Republicans and Democrats but suck big rough ridin' nuts.
hemmy, ftw :woot:
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Hasn't AQ publically acknowledged his death? Thought they had? :confused:
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Hasn't AQ publically acknowledged his death? Thought they had? :confused:
That's what they tell you. Doesn't mean a damn thing.
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Be careful you guys, (+1 Hidden) is viewing this board. :ohno:
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Hasn't AQ publically acknowledged his death? Thought they had? :confused:
That's what they tell you. Doesn't mean a damn thing.
JFC
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Hasn't AQ publically acknowledged his death? Thought they had? :confused:
That's what they tell you. Doesn't mean a damn thing.
JFC
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CNN said it! Fox News said it! Barack Hussein Obama said it! Must be true!
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Hasn't AQ publically acknowledged his death? Thought they had? :confused:
That's what they tell you. Doesn't mean a damn thing.
JFC
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CNN said it! Fox News said it! Barack Hussein Obama said it! Must be true!
JFC
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The moon exploded! Just saw it on the news!
Must be true then!
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They didn't provide any evidence either!!! But it's ok I believe 'em!
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Ben's just a youngster, he still actually believes in the (fake) left/right paradigm.
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I hate this effing 2 party bullcrap, get out of here you but then again I am an idiotgots.
Republicans and Democrats but suck big effing nuts.
<------ I'm with hemmy
However, I've strongly aligned myself with "The Rent is Too Damn High" Party. We seem to have similar ideological beliefs.
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Remember in 2006 when Democrats were standing on the floor of the House and Senate shrieking about Federal Deficits, the National Debt and then a little while after that gas prices?
Only to see them take complete control of the congress for 4 years and then the White house and in the process rack up Federal Budget Deficits and then the ensuing debt that goes with at unprecedented rates . . . now we pay on average $4 a gallon for gas, and in a purely political grandstanding move Obama is talking about opening more areas for drilling. Under the watch of Democrats US debt ratings have been downgraded, and we're now borrowing from the Federal Pension plan to pay our bills on top of the IOU's we keep chucking into the various "trust funds".
Meanwhile the current War Monger and Chief does nothing but expand and propagate war and finance the War/Military/Intelligence Complex at record levels, and of all things, he's bombing for Al-Queda in Libya.
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Hasn't AQ publically acknowledged his death? Thought they had? :confused:
That's what they tell you. Doesn't mean a damn thing.
JFC
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This coming from a "Truther".
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Remember in 2006 when Democrats were standing on the floor of the House and Senate shrieking about Federal Deficits, the National Debt and then a little while after that gas prices?
Only to see them take complete control of the congress for 4 years and then the White house and in the process rack up Federal Budget Deficits and then the ensuing debt that goes with at unprecedented rates . . . now we pay on average $4 a gallon for gas, and in a purely political grandstanding move Obama is talking about opening more areas for drilling. Under the watch of Democrats US debt ratings have been downgraded, and we're now borrowing from the Federal Pension plan to pay our bills on top of the IOU's we keep chucking into the various "trust funds".
Meanwhile the current War Monger and Chief does nothing but expand and propagate war and finance the War/Military/Intelligence Complex at record levels, and of all things, he's bombing for Al-Queda in Libya.
All that aside, we should still listen to our government. Everything they say is genuine
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All that aside, we should still listen to our government. Everything they say is genuine
I've never once implied that that's what I believe. I just don't think that everything is a conspiracy. Now go put on your tin foil hat, and whatever you do, make sure to stay away from the microwave.
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All that aside, we should still listen to our government. Everything they say is genuine
I've never once implied that that's what I believe. I just don't think that everything is a conspiracy. Now go put on your tin foil hat, and whatever you do, make sure to stay away from the microwave.
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I'm not saying it is either, but what if it is :runaway:
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Almost two pages deep, and not one of the resident right wing douchebags has given a legitimate reason for why they vote Republican.
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Cause I'm not an America-hatin communist.
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Years of voting Democrat and multiple minority groups in the United States are generations deep living off the Welfare dole . . . years of voting Democrat have given African American males what? 30% plus unemployment?
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An awful lot of small business owners are both Republican and outside of the 2%.
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"An awful lot of small business owners are both Republican and outside of the 2%."
most republicans i know see no benefit from the economic platform espoused by the party but oneday aspire to be rich and are okay gettin dicked over until that day hopefully comes
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Dicked over by leftist (in both parties, but mostly d's) politicians and bureaucrats who increasingly regulate and regulate to the point where many business owners or those who want to be business owners have such an increased burden that they can't effectively grow or start their business. The larger companies for the most part can withstand the onslaught of regulation simply through their large scale size, although their increased costs must still be passed along in the form of higher prices to the little guy.
d's keeping the little guy down.
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Dicked over by leftist (in both parties, but mostly d's) politicians and bureaucrats who increasingly regulate and regulate to the point where many business owners or those who want to be business owners have such an increased burden that they can't effectively grow or start their business. The larger companies for the most part can withstand the onslaught of regulation simply through their large scale size, although their increased costs must still be passed along in the form of higher prices to the little guy.
d's keeping the little guy down.
This. The enviro-terrorists (all democrats) have literally stifled all start-up entrepreneurs attempting to manufacture anything in leftist states, then conduct a million dollar study to find out why business is leaving their socialist utopia state for Texas.
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Dicked over by leftist (in both parties, but mostly d's) politicians and bureaucrats who increasingly regulate and regulate to the point where many business owners or those who want to be business owners have such an increased burden that they can't effectively grow or start their business. The larger companies for the most part can withstand the onslaught of regulation simply through their large scale size, although their increased costs must still be passed along in the form of higher prices to the little guy.
d's keeping the little guy down.
This. The enviro-terrorists (all democrats) have literally stifled all start-up entrepreneurs attempting to manufacture anything in leftist states, then conduct a million dollar study to find out why business is leaving their socialist utopia state for Texas.
There is, of course, a way to keep those jobs from going to Texas or any other such state. Would it be to make your state a business-friendly environment? No. The answer must always be more and more government power. You get the nlrb to tell companies they can't relocate. See: Boeing.
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Dicked over by leftist (in both parties, but mostly d's) politicians and bureaucrats who increasingly regulate and regulate to the point where many business owners or those who want to be business owners have such an increased burden that they can't effectively grow or start their business. The larger companies for the most part can withstand the onslaught of regulation simply through their large scale size, although their increased costs must still be passed along in the form of higher prices to the little guy.
d's keeping the little guy down.
Business owners vote republican because that is usually in their best interest, but blaming the government on failing businesses is a joke. Businesses fail because their owners are poor businessmen, not because of the government.
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Small businesses were at their healthiest during the Clinton administration. Next.
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Small businesses were at their healthiest during the Clinton administration. Next.
a lot of small biz owners are conservative by nature. This is why they would vote rep.
Next.
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Small businesses were at their healthiest during the Clinton administration. Next.
Do you ever really think these things through? Clinton had no power during the last 6 years of his presidency accept to veto bills and fire rockets. Same with Bush his last 2 years.
Also, most of the start ups during the Clinton years were not real businesses, just useless web pages that morons dumped insane amounts of money into before it all came crashing down.
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Small businesses were at their healthiest during the Clinton administration. Next.
Do you ever really think these things through? Clinton had no power during the last 6 years of his presidency accept to veto bills and fire rockets. Same with Bush his last 2 years.
Also, most of the start ups during the Clinton years were not real businesses, just useless web pages that morons dumped insane amounts of money into before it all came crashing down.
The environment was at its best when Puritans founded this country, next.
The problem with these vague, silly, unfounded, snotty little statements, is that they are vague, silly, unfounded and snotty. Here's what he'd be saying if Obama was a Repub
Obama is currently President: 1) record levels of sustained unemployment; 2) record low GDP growth; 3) drastically lower tax revenues; 4) poverty increasing at a record pace; 5) record levels of increasing healthcare costs; 6) record deficit spending; 7) uncharged prisoners at Gitmo; 8) record level global warming; 9) falling home prices; 10) sustained low levels of consumer sentiment
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Not that I vote republican every time, but I can tell you why I never vote democrat. I don't think welfare, unemployment, or any government funded program that gives the "less fortunate" benefits really helps anyone. It especially doesn't help the working class.
There. I said it.
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JFC
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Small businesses were at their healthiest during the Clinton administration. Next.
Do you ever really think these things through? Clinton had no power during the last 6 years of his presidency accept to veto bills and fire rockets. Same with Bush his last 2 years.
Also, most of the start ups during the Clinton years were not real businesses, just useless web pages that morons dumped insane amounts of money into before it all came crashing down.
The environment was at its best when Puritans founded this country, next.
The problem with these vague, silly, unfounded, snotty little statements, is that they are vague, silly, unfounded and snotty. Here's what he'd be saying if Obama was a Repub
Obama is currently President: 1) record levels of sustained unemployment; 2) record low GDP growth; 3) drastically lower tax revenues; 4) poverty increasing at a record pace; 5) record levels of increasing healthcare costs; 6) record deficit spending; 7) uncharged prisoners at Gitmo; 8) record level global warming; 9) falling home prices; 10) sustained low levels of consumer sentiment
It's pretty simple... when Clinton left office, the United States was experiencing the largest budget surplus in the history of our country. When Bush left office, the budget deficit was at an all-time high, and the economy was in the middle of a recession. Obama is now left cleaning up the mess.
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Pretty sure the deficit is currently at an all time high. :ck:
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Pretty sure the deficit is currently at an all time high. :ck:
This.
Obama hasn't cleaned up crap
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no bites? really? :frown:
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Small businesses were at their healthiest during the Clinton administration. Next.
Do you ever really think these things through? Clinton had no power during the last 6 years of his presidency accept to veto bills and fire rockets. Same with Bush his last 2 years.
Also, most of the start ups during the Clinton years were not real businesses, just useless web pages that morons dumped insane amounts of money into before it all came crashing down.
The environment was at its best when Puritans founded this country, next.
The problem with these vague, silly, unfounded, snotty little statements, is that they are vague, silly, unfounded and snotty. Here's what he'd be saying if Obama was a Repub
Obama is currently President: 1) record levels of sustained unemployment; 2) record low GDP growth; 3) drastically lower tax revenues; 4) poverty increasing at a record pace; 5) record levels of increasing healthcare costs; 6) record deficit spending; 7) uncharged prisoners at Gitmo; 8) record level global warming; 9) falling home prices; 10) sustained low levels of consumer sentiment
It's pretty simple... when Clinton left office, the United States was experiencing the largest budget surplus in the history of our country. When Bush left office, the budget deficit was at an all-time high, and the economy was in the middle of a recession. Obama is now left cleaning up the mess.
Pretty sure the house drafts the budget and president just signs it, or doesn't. Clinton had little to do with the budget surplus. Pelosi wrote Bush's budget.
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HeeHee....some people still think it was bill clinton's economy and not Bill Gates's.
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Gay Marriage and abortion are pretty much the only platforms left for republicans to run on, after that there is very little difference in the 2 parties for the average joe.
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Gay Marriage and abortion are pretty much the only platforms left for republicans to run on, after that there is very little difference in the 2 parties for the average joe.
don't forget guns and drill baby drill
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Gay Marriage and abortion are pretty much the only platforms left for republicans to run on, after that there is very little difference in the 2 parties for the average joe.
don't forget guns and drill baby drill
Obamacare
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Gay Marriage and abortion are pretty much the only platforms left for republicans to run on, after that there is very little difference in the 2 parties for the average joe.
don't forget guns and drill baby drill
Funny thing is none of those things even change. Candidates make promises on either side of those platforms but realistically can't do crap about them.
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Gay Marriage and abortion are pretty much the only platforms left for republicans to run on, after that there is very little difference in the 2 parties for the average joe.
don't forget guns and drill baby drill
Funny thing is none of those things even change. Candidates make promises on either side of those platforms but realistically can't do crap about them.
Wedge issues excite emotion. Emotion rules the day for many. Much easier to have a feeling about a candidate than to wade through the bullshit required to actually get a solid read on them.
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Gay Marriage and abortion are pretty much the only platforms left for republicans to run on, after that there is very little difference in the 2 parties for the average joe.
don't forget guns and drill baby drill
Funny thing is none of those things even change. Candidates make promises on either side of those platforms but realistically can't do crap about them.
Wedge issues excite emotion. Emotion rules the day for many. Much easier to have a feeling about a candidate than to wade through the bullshit required to actually get a solid read on them.
You said it, not me. :eye:
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no bites? really? :frown:
You can't get bites using facts. You need to utilize a string of unconnected facts in a chain that builds to a false and incoherent conclusion.
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To be honest is there anyone out there worth voting for? The more I look at it, if you want to be president or in political office that makes you too stupid for me to vote for. Who in there right mind would want that job?
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Herman Cain seems pretty damn smart. Only ran a major company.
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Herman Cain seems pretty damn smart. Only ran a major company.
Will be interesting to see the skeletons that come out of his closet if he does in fact get closer to being a real player on the republican side. I can't imagine his prior connection to the Federal Reserve and adamant stance on not auditing the fed will help him with tea party type folks.
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Not that I vote republican every time, but I can tell you why I never vote democrat. I don't think welfare, unemployment, or any government funded program that gives the "less fortunate" benefits really helps anyone. It especially doesn't help the working class.
There. I said it.
so you think WIC should be cancelled?
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Not that I vote republican every time, but I can tell you why I never vote democrat. I don't think welfare, unemployment, or any government funded program that gives the "less fortunate" benefits really helps anyone. It especially doesn't help the working class.
There. I said it.
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Beems:
Economically: middle class tax cuts (Not sure when the Dem's ever voted for a tax cut, please enlighten me.), improved health care coverage (For who? Why so many waivers with Obamacare? Thought my rates would not rise anymore when this passed? I guess we still have to wait to find out what is in it. I'm sure the IRS will enlighten me. Can someone tell me how the US can afford this? ), more funding for education (More funding has not worked out for better schools and education. Democrats always think they can throw money at problems and get solutions. Wrong again), etc., etc. (Please be more specific as etc. doesn't mean crap in my book.)
Socially: a better environment (Killing jobs and agrigulture through Cap and Trade, or for example the Delta Smelt or theoretically manipulated data does not mean a better environment. Conservatives are not against the environment, we are for practical measures to improve the environment. Subsidizing a food source for the creation of energy is not working out very well.), improvements in medicine (embryonic stem cell research [Stem cell research has produce far greater results than embryonic stem cell research.), protection of constitutional rights (Protecting the Constitution by going after free speech in the Fairness Doctrine, and wanting to criminalize guns, doesn't sound like you are protecting much at all), decriminalization of marijuana (Don't mind this one, but still vote conservative), more social equality (white/black/gay/straight/man/woman/etc.) (Republicans freed the slaves, proportionately have higher percentage votes on all civil rights acts and believe in what MLK said that there should be no discernation of color. Of course the Dems base everything on what color your skin is these days and can't see beyond that. Ask a Dem what they think of Clarence Thomas, Allen West or Herman Cain. Then you will see they want to keep the minority down, where they think they should belong.), upgrades in green technology (Only the market will affect large upgrades in this area. Subsidation and price controls have negative affects on the market, especially related markets [ie. corn]. I sure as heck don't look forward to either having to purchase mercury filled light bulbs or $50/per LED light bulbs] , more freedom in general (What freedoms do you mean? Killing babies is a good freedom you like I bet.), etc., etc. (Once again, the etc. doesn't mean crap to me.)
Politically: the separation of church and state (The only issue here is the fact that Liberals want God out of everything in life to create a secular society that worships the government.? I know you don't like to see religious symbols at war memorials, and the Pledge of Allegiance you probably hate [I say it proudly before every KSU Football Game. Probably makes you cringe.] I'm sure you are right behind the ACLU making sure that there is no Christmas, Hanukkah, Easter in the schools.), the implementation of progressive ideologies (You obviously have no education on the root of the word. You probably would have been with the original progressives in the 20's and 30's loving on Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini like they all did until 1939. Progressive means being progressive towards Communism/Socialism.) , a President who doesn't embarrass the entire country and butcher simple words like "nuclear," (Pretty sure that Obama said there were 57 states once. The media latches on to Conservative misteps and ignores the Liberal ones and it is a sad hyprocracy. Joe Biden is a walking talking nightmare, but the media just laughs it off.)., etc., etc. (What the eff does etc. mean to you?)
Me: You also keep bringing up Clinton and his greatness and Bush and his deficits. You have a history on this board of repeating this over and over and over, with no back up or thought. I'm tired of calling you out on this, but once again: Do you know who passes legislation and has the fiscal powers of budgeting? You probably just lapped up everything said or written by Pelosi/Reids, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, Liberal Professors, Time Magazine, Newsweek, NY Times (insert city paper name here) from birth to present. No original thought at all. Couldn't do any research whatsoever by yourself. And I was raised before Fox News. But had the ability to to find Chris Buckley and Milton Freidman and become educated on the economy and conservative principals. Realizing that Socialism never works (and it's been tried and tried throughout history) and is responsible for the death of 100's of millions, I decided it would be a good idea to vote republican.
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I hate this effing 2 party bullcrap, get out of here you but then again I am an idiotgots.
Republicans and Democrats but suck big effing nuts.
<------ I'm with hemmy
However, I've strongly aligned myself with "The Rent is Too Damn High" Party. We seem to have similar ideological beliefs.
Please consider joining my newly formed Meat Goat party.
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I hate this effing 2 party bullcrap, get out of here you but then again I am an idiotgots.
Republicans and Democrats but suck big effing nuts.
<------ I'm with hemmy
However, I've strongly aligned myself with "The Rent is Too Damn High" Party. We seem to have similar ideological beliefs.
Please consider joining my newly formed Meat Goat party.
Need more info on what the MGP stands for.