he's awful. I hate him.
Mitch Holthus compared him to Steve Henson on Saturday.
I basically blame him for everything bad that happened in that 2-3 min stretch :ck:
Nick Russell is much, much better than Spradling. Frank is so stupid.
Nick Russell is much, much better than Spradling. Frank is so stupid.
Nick Russell is much, much better than Spradling. Frank is so stupid.
Didn't we offer Will early too? :lol: Jesus, wtf was Frank watching?
Nick Russell is much, much better than Spradling. Frank is so stupid.
Didn't we offer Will early too? :lol: Jesus, wtf was Frank watching?
Nick Russell is much, much better than Spradling. Frank is so stupid.
Didn't we offer Will early too? :lol: Jesus, wtf was Frank watching?
UNLV offered him, and they are better than us.
he's awful. I hate him.
he's awful. I hate him.
At least he tries. Jake Pullen sucks worse thank Sprads and he doesn't even care.
he's awful. I hate him.
At least he tries. Jake Pullen sucks worse thank Sprads and he doesn't even care.
No, idiot. NO. NO.
he's awful. I hate him.
At least he tries. Jake Pullen sucks worse thank Sprads and he doesn't even care.
No crap. Since when does not giving a damn= 16 points? JFC.he's awful. I hate him.
At least he tries. Jake Pullen sucks worse thank Sprads and he doesn't even care.
No, idiot. NO. NO.
Sprads was on the court for much off the 2nd half when we took care of the ball and outscored MU 27-15. Cut the lead to 58-55
5 different players had turnovers in the next 4 minutes. Was not just Sprads who struggled in that stretch.
Sprads was on the court for much off the 2nd half when we took care of the ball and outscored MU 27-15. Cut the lead to 58-55
5 different players had turnovers in the next 4 minutes. Was not just Sprads who struggled in that stretch.
he's awful. I hate him.
At least he tries. Jake Pullen sucks worse thank Sprads and he doesn't even care.
No, idiot. NO. NO.
No cac. Since when does not giving a damn= 16 points? JFC.
Sprads barely played in the 1st half. We had 13 turnovers and got outscored by 15
Who we gonna put the blame on for that
he's awful. I hate him.
At least he tries. Jake Pullen sucks worse thank Sprads and he doesn't even care.
No, idiot. NO. NO.
No cac. Since when does not giving a damn= 16 points? JFC.
7+ turnovers, getting beat on 3+ backdoor cuts, watching your man drain a three and then blaming someone else, not to mention leaving your jock strap at the top of the key multiple times = not caring. 16 points don't even come close to offsetting this.
he's awful. I hate him.
At least he tries. Jake Pullen sucks worse thank Sprads and he doesn't even care.
No, idiot. NO. NO.
No cac. Since when does not giving a damn= 16 points? JFC.
7+ turnovers, getting beat on 3+ backdoor cuts, watching your man drain a three and then blaming someone else, not to mention leaving your jock strap at the top of the key multiple times = not caring. 16 points don't even come close to offsetting this.
he's awful. I hate him.
At least he tries. Jake Pullen sucks worse thank Sprads and he doesn't even care.
No, idiot. NO. NO.
No cac. Since when does not giving a damn= 16 points? JFC.
7+ turnovers, getting beat on 3+ backdoor cuts, watching your man drain a three and then blaming someone else, not to mention leaving your jock strap at the top of the key multiple times = not caring. 16 points don't even come close to offsetting this.
I was pretty pissed at sprads, but I imagine sys will clown us all when he reviews the tape.
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But, but, but.... He's already better than Tyrel Reed!!!!
:flush:
But, but, but.... He's already better than Tyrel Reed!!!!
:flush:
I basically blame him for everything bad that happened in that 2-3 min stretch :ck:
But, but, but.... He's already better than Tyrel Reed!!!!
:flush:
But, but, but.... He's already better than Tyrel Reed!!!!
:flush:
BMW, I might become a KU fan. Seems like a great life. Would be amazing making KU videos.
he's awful. I hate him.
At least he tries. Jake Pullen sucks worse thank Sprads and he doesn't even care.
No, idiot. NO. NO.
No cac. Since when does not giving a damn= 16 points? JFC.
7+ turnovers, getting beat on 3+ backdoor cuts, watching your man drain a three and then blaming someone else, not to mention leaving your jock strap at the top of the key multiple times = not caring. 16 points don't even come close to offsetting this.
I wish our fan base would learn how to hate the right players.
he's awful. I hate him.
At least he tries. Jake Pullen sucks worse thank Sprads and he doesn't even care.
No, idiot. NO. NO.
No cac. Since when does not giving a damn= 16 points? JFC.
7+ turnovers, getting beat on 3+ backdoor cuts, watching your man drain a three and then blaming someone else, not to mention leaving your jock strap at the top of the key multiple times = not caring. 16 points don't even come close to offsetting this.
Get your facts straight!
But, but, but.... He's already better than Tyrel Reed!!!!
:flush:
Congrats to MU/KU fan BMWJayhawk. Team Quantrill Conference.
But, but, but.... He's already better than Tyrel Reed!!!!
:flush:
Congrats to MU/KU fan BMWJayhawk. Team Quantrill Conference.
I don't recall any of their players telling the media that "this is our conference to lose." Eat sh*t, you arrogant pricks.
But, but, but.... He's already better than Tyrel Reed!!!!
:flush:
Congrats to MU/KU fan BMWJayhawk. Team Quantrill Conference.
I don't recall any of their players telling the media that "this is our conference to lose." Eat sh*t, you arrogant pricks.
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I'd put it at 3600.
But, but, but.... He's already better than Tyrel Reed!!!!
:flush:
Congrats to MU/KU fan BMWJayhawk. Team Quantrill Conference.
I don't recall any of their players telling the media that "this is our conference to lose." Eat sh*t, you arrogant pricks.
you're right. SD, _33, Pete, and the gang should have kept their mouths shut!
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Says the guy who has deleted his account about three times in the last two months. F*ck you, Turncoat42yardblimp.
But, but, but.... He's already better than Tyrel Reed!!!!
:flush:
Congrats to MU/KU fan BMWJayhawk. Team Quantrill Conference.
I don't recall any of their players telling the media that "this is our conference to lose." Eat sh*t, you arrogant pricks.
you're right. SD, _33, Pete, and the gang should have kept their mouths shut!
I knew that goEMAW.com posters press conference was going to come back to bite us.
Sprads was on the court for much off the 2nd half when we took care of the ball and outscored MU 27-15. Cut the lead to 58-55
5 different players had turnovers in the next 4 minutes. Was not just Sprads who struggled in that stretch.
Pullen was awful today. Got outplayed by a lot of people in Mu backcourt. Gruds had an off game
I'm going to choose which school I get my masters degree based on an Internet message board.
I'm going to choose which school I get my masters degree based on an Internet message board.
Portland State does some serious bbs'ing. Enrolling now.
Sprads had a tough game, give him a break. There were multiple opportunities for everyone to play better.
All the "best" posters on this site are absolute :flush:, especially in this thread. :chainsaw: on a true freshman for having a few bad turnovers, but :love: on senior team captain all-american for having a very average game. Bang up job, guys.
make sure i get this straight...
Doc > Pullen
Got it.
Nobody said that Jake did a bang-up job today, dude. The point that we're trying to make is that on our myriad list of problems for this team, Pullen doesn't even crack the Top 5. And Spradling's mistakes basically cost us any chance at sustaining the comeback momentum. If you don't think that momentum isn't a huge part of college basketball, then I don't know what to say to you.
I would like to cuntpunch the next jackhole that uses the term "true freshman" on a basketball board.
Sprads is similar to JHR to me; some teams are just a bad match-up. Against big, physical bigs, JHR gets pushed around. Against really quick guards, Sprads struggles with pressure. I was calling for Frank to take him out several times today because of this problem.
However, overall he's given about what I expected, if not more, so its silly to get too upset at him for me. I'm disappointed in the guys we counted on this year. Very little of what Sprads did in the first half impacted this game, and that was where the game was lost. But several of the guys we were counting on struggled and put the team in position to rely on a ridiculous comeback to win at Missouri, and it was way more than one guy. And it was those same guys that contributed to much more winnable losses to OSU and CU. So when I think about people who put thus team in the position we are in for both the season and this game, I can't even put Sprads in the top 5, maybe not even the top 10.
Sprads is similar to JHR to me; some teams are just a bad match-up. Against big, physical bigs, JHR gets pushed around. Against really quick guards, Sprads struggles with pressure. I was calling for Frank to take him out several times today because of this problem.
However, overall he's given about what I expected, if not more, so its silly to get too upset at him for me. I'm disappointed in the guys we counted on this year. Very little of what Sprads did in the first half impacted this game, and that was where the game was lost. But several of the guys we were counting on struggled and put the team in position to rely on a ridiculous comeback to win at Missouri, and it was way more than one guy. And it was those same guys that contributed to much more winnable losses to OSU and CU. So when I think about people who put thus team in the position we are in for both the season and this game, I can't even put Sprads in the top 5, maybe not even the top 10.
I was pretty pissed at sprads, but I imagine sys will clown us all when he reviews the tape.
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Sprads on the court is not even a top 5 problem issue either. Some games he is gonna struggle. Almost everyone struggled tonight
We had no business losing to CU but because we had a long dry spell on offense (outscored 27-7 in 13 min span) we lost. Can't blame that on Sprads because he was on the bench the entire time in that stretch. He gets brought in and Frank goes 4 guards (we were down 11 remember) and we score 24 pts in 6.5 minutes
Today we were down 15 at half. Frank brings Sprads in early in the 2nd and he is playing decent and the team is playing well, so he plays a lot..... and a 15 pt lead is trimmed to 3.
Lots of guys played well vs Tech...... but Sprads line was good = 7 pts 5 ast 1 to
If he sucks so bad, why is it that when he is 1 of the 5 guys on the floor, our team seems to do pretty decent
Sprads is similar to JHR to me; some teams are just a bad match-up. Against big, physical bigs, JHR gets pushed around. Against really quick guards, Sprads struggles with pressure. I was calling for Frank to take him out several times today because of this problem.
However, overall he's given about what I expected, if not more, so its silly to get too upset at him for me. I'm disappointed in the guys we counted on this year. Very little of what Sprads did in the first half impacted this game, and that was where the game was lost. But several of the guys we were counting on struggled and put the team in position to rely on a ridiculous comeback to win at Missouri, and it was way more than one guy. And it was those same guys that contributed to much more winnable losses to OSU and CU. So when I think about people who put thus team in the position we are in for both the season and this game, I can't even put Sprads in the top 5, maybe not even the top 10.
Sprads is similar to JHR to me; some teams are just a bad match-up. Against big, physical bigs, JHR gets pushed around. Against really quick guards, Sprads struggles with pressure. I was calling for Frank to take him out several times today because of this problem.
However, overall he's given about what I expected, if not more, so its silly to get too upset at him for me. I'm disappointed in the guys we counted on this year. Very little of what Sprads did in the first half impacted this game, and that was where the game was lost. But several of the guys we were counting on struggled and put the team in position to rely on a ridiculous comeback to win at Missouri, and it was way more than one guy. And it was those same guys that contributed to much more winnable losses to OSU and CU. So when I think about people who put thus team in the position we are in for both the season and this game, I can't even put Sprads in the top 5, maybe not even the top 10.
Problem for K-State is, it wasn't a ridiculous comeback. It's what Mizzou does; it's what they've done all year: go on runs and give up runs, against all levels of competition. K-State was going to make a run at some point, unless they were about the worst team Mizzou had faced. Anyone taking solace in the fact that K-State got back within 3 should keep this in mind. K-State didn't do anything special, they just did what any average team does against Mizzou.
The same things hurt K-State that have hurt them all year long: dumb, dumb, dumb turnovers, inability to finish within 3 feet of the basket, inability to rebound, and a point in the game at which everyone decides to just take off a few defensive possessions. Unsurprisingly, all 4 of those things seem to be related to a lack of athletic coordination.
I basically blame him for everything bad that happened in that 2-3 min stretch :ck:
I basically blame him for everything bad that happened in that 2-3 min stretch :ck:
I blame Frank for playing him. We were down by 3 when Frank decided to rest Jake and insert Sprads. Sprads was awful in the first half, and I was definitely skeptical about the move. Sure enough the TO's picked back up and we were done for.
Sucks. Though @MU is a game that even good teams will lose a lot of the time. The CU and @OSU are the ones you want to have back. 1-3. Big hole to climb out of.
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Says the guy who has deleted his account about three times in the last two months. F*ck you, Turncoat42yardblimp.
The Sprads and Cmerrs are always going to be Sprads and Cmerrs and at some point it is a waste of time to try and "develop" a player that will never have the physical ability to play at this level.
bmw, stop it. you're being an bad person, and are alienating friends.
stop doing this. why do you do this? it's a HUGE personality flaw you posses.
bmw, stop it. you're being an bad person, and are alienating friends.
stop doing this. why do you do this? it's a HUGE personality flaw you posses.
You're right, fats, but 42 started it. I'm sorry.
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I hardly know you big guybmw, stop it. you're being an bad person, and are alienating friends.
stop doing this. why do you do this? it's a HUGE personality flaw you posses.
You're right, fats, but 42 started it. I'm sorry.
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Friends?
42, are we friends?
This losing is making me really sentimental guys, I'm sorry. Really vulnerable.
All the "best" posters on this site are absolute :flush:, especially in this thread. :chainsaw: on a true freshman for having a few bad turnovers, but :love: on senior team captain all-american for having a very average game. Bang up job, guys.
I hardly know you big guybmw, stop it. you're being an bad person, and are alienating friends.
stop doing this. why do you do this? it's a HUGE personality flaw you posses.
You're right, fats, but 42 started it. I'm sorry.
:cry:
Friends?
42, are we friends?
This losing is making me really sentimental guys, I'm sorry. Really vulnerable.
Dominique Brandersoned
Dominique Brandersoned
You need to work Freddy or Asprilla into this somehow.
if Frank ran off all the untalented players, we'd have like 4 players. what's worse is that if sprads transferred, frank would just replace him some other POS.
Nobody said that Jake did a bang-up job today, dude. The point that we're trying to make is that on our myriad list of problems for this team, Pullen doesn't even crack the Top 5. And Spradling's mistakes basically cost us any chance at sustaining the comeback momentum. If you don't think that momentum isn't a huge part of college basketball, then I don't know what to say to you.
Thx for a thoughtful response, 42. To make it clear, I'm not defending Sprads' play this game -- he indeed have some bad turnovers. He wasn't all bad -- he hit a clutch 3 w/ 1 sec. on the shot clock after saving the ball in-bounds, and also made a nice xtra pass to assist Pullen on his only 3-point make of the evening.
The point is, however, this kind of play is expected from a freshman (unless he's a projected lottery pick or something). Pullen had a lot of bad plays when he was forced on the court as a true frosh (take your best shot, Rusty) as well, remember? He (Sprads) makes some bad decisions, but also makes some good ones.
And the point w/ Pullen is, that when you are one of only 2 seniors on the team (the other is a transfer), you're playing PG (rather often), and you're regarded as the best player on your team, you expect him to make good decisions, not force shots, show some leadership on the floor, and make clutch plays. Pullen didn't play terrible tonight, but he didn't play great either. He hasn't had a "great" game all year long, and while he indeed does make some nice plays for stretches in a game, the true clutch plays are not there.
In short, much more is expected of Pullen than of Sprads, and rightfully so. It is my opinion that Pullen overall has failed to meet expectations more so than Spradling. As far as momentum goes, sure that stretch was key, but as a few others have said, Sprads was certainly not alone in contributing to the momentum loss.
Nobody said that Jake did a bang-up job today, dude. The point that we're trying to make is that on our myriad list of problems for this team, Pullen doesn't even crack the Top 5. And Spradling's mistakes basically cost us any chance at sustaining the comeback momentum. If you don't think that momentum isn't a huge part of college basketball, then I don't know what to say to you.
Thx for a thoughtful response, 42. To make it clear, I'm not defending Sprads' play this game -- he indeed have some bad turnovers. He wasn't all bad -- he hit a clutch 3 w/ 1 sec. on the shot clock after saving the ball in-bounds, and also made a nice xtra pass to assist Pullen on his only 3-point make of the evening.
The point is, however, this kind of play is expected from a freshman (unless he's a projected lottery pick or something). Pullen had a lot of bad plays when he was forced on the court as a true frosh (take your best shot, Rusty) as well, remember? He (Sprads) makes some bad decisions, but also makes some good ones.
And the point w/ Pullen is, that when you are one of only 2 seniors on the team (the other is a transfer), you're playing PG (rather often), and you're regarded as the best player on your team, you expect him to make good decisions, not force shots, show some leadership on the floor, and make clutch plays. Pullen didn't play terrible tonight, but he didn't play great either. He hasn't had a "great" game all year long, and while he indeed does make some nice plays for stretches in a game, the true clutch plays are not there.
In short, much more is expected of Pullen than of Sprads, and rightfully so. It is my opinion that Pullen overall has failed to meet expectations more so than Spradling. As far as momentum goes, sure that stretch was key, but as a few others have said, Sprads was certainly not alone in contributing to the momentum loss.
42 is a shitty poster. He has been for a while. Anyone blaming this loss on Spradling is an rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). If Russell and Irving weren't such POS we wouldn't even be able to complain about Spradling.
Spradling isn't a horrible player. He is, however, a horrible match-up against MU, especially @MU.
Spradling isn't a horrible player. He is, however, a horrible match-up againstMU, especially @MUD-I players.
spradling is alright and when i say alright i mean adorable and when i say adorable i mean only if he's not wearing that horrible off-white undershirt. but yeah playing-wise i say give the freshman a break
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=310150006
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spradling is alright and when i say alright i mean adorable and when i say adorable i mean only if he's not wearing that horrible off-white undershirt. but yeah playing-wise i say give the freshman a break
Can't he get some Pro-activ or something?
It worked rough ridin' great for Christina and Jess.
Buchi update?
Buchi update?
you can hire him, if you're looking to put a team together.
http://www.court-side.com/p/P6049636DE03CAA10C125775B00007804
Heavily recruited, he selected Kansas State (which may not have been the best decision)
Buchi update?
you can hire him, if you're looking to put a team together.
http://www.court-side.com/p/P6049636DE03CAA10C125775B00007804
:lol:QuoteHeavily recruited, he selected Kansas State (which may not have been the best decision)
spradling is alright and when i say alright i mean adorable and when i say adorable i mean only if he's not wearing that horrible off-white undershirt. but yeah playing-wise i say give the freshman a break
spradling is alright and when i say alright i mean adorable and when i say adorable i mean only if he's not wearing that horrible off-white undershirt. but yeah playing-wise i say give the freshman a break
Can't he get some Pro-activ or something?
It worked effing great for Christina and Jess.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi709.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww92%2FTommyRoanoke%2FDocSprads.jpg&hash=b829307776f648b9e01d8fca7872edff81dc4b7d)
Buchi update?
you can hire him, if you're looking to put a team together.
http://www.court-side.com/p/P6049636DE03CAA10C125775B00007804
Did Buchi really have 5 double digit scoring games for us? I'm mildly surprised that he actually played 5 games.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=310150006
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=310150006
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meh
http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=290102393
Horrific at pretty much everything besides free throws and set, uncontested 3's.
:bait:Horrific at pretty much everything besides free throws and set, uncontested 3's.
Can't even do this now :chainsaw:
Cost us the game. He lost us this game. By himself. You can't blame anyone else.
Cost us the game. He lost us this game. By himself. You can't blame anyone else.
Giving Diaz significant minutes in the 2nd half didn't help either.
Diaz was better than JO.
Here is to hoping Spradling gets Wally'd/Dom'd/Brown'd/awaji'd/Anderson'd/etc
Here is to hoping Spradling gets Wally'd/Dom'd/Brown'd/awaji'd/Anderson'd/etc
He obviously will not because we haven't recruited anyone who can fill in (except Jet but he doesn't practice hard enough for Frank's liking or whatever)
Part of me believe that Will was going to hit the tying three or the game winning three as the time was winding down in the game.
Part of me believe that Will was going to hit the tying three or the game winning three as the time was winding down in the game. I thought it was going to be marvelous and all would be right with the world.
:facepalm:
Here is to hoping Spradling gets Wally'd/Dom'd/Brown'd/awaji'd/Anderson'd/etc
He obviously will not because we haven't recruited anyone who can fill in (except Jet but he doesn't practice hard enough for Frank's liking or whatever)
I hope Angel stabs him in the training room.
Part of me believe that Will was going to hit the tying three or the game winning three as the time was winding down in the game. I thought it was going to be marvelous and all would be right with the world.
:facepalm:
i have a better chance at my dick growing past 6 inches then spradling hitting a game winning/tying 3. come on now. use your head.
Part of me believe that Will was going to hit the tying three or the game winning three as the time was winding down in the game. I thought it was going to be marvelous and all would be right with the world.
:facepalm:
i have a better chance at my dick growing past 6 inches then spradling hitting a game winning/tying 3. come on now. use your head.
You're going to cut me down by proclaiming you have a below average penis? :dunno:
Part of me believe that Will was going to hit the tying three or the game winning three as the time was winding down in the game. I thought it was going to be marvelous and all would be right with the world.
:facepalm:
i have a better chance at my dick growing past 6 inches then spradling hitting a game winning/tying 3. come on now. use your head.
You're going to cut me down by proclaiming you have a below average penis? :dunno:
He provides nothing to the team. Sad really.
He's worse than ojeyle at this point
Spradling is a shooter & if he can't hit or is scared to shoot & miss (which is what seems to be his problem) bench him. Southwell & Irving deserve more playing at the moment than Will does. There should be no reason Will can't shoot 40%+ from the field every game. Hopefully Spradling will get the confidence for every game & just light it up.
still trying to figure out what he brings to the team, and why he gets so many minutes. i mean our options suck, but damn
Will gives another team a win in Manhattan.
Frank is going to have a real hard time defending him now.
HE TRIES REALLY HARD IN PRACTICE NEVER TAKES A DAY OFF LEADERSHIP WORKS HARD
Will gives another team a win in Manhattan.
Frank is going to have a real hard time defending him now.
He has really been quite awful in conference play.
The comment above said it best. He's a shooter. If he can't hit shots, he needs to sit. I think that's all you can say about that.
He probably played around 30 minutes, and his stat line was 4 pts, 2 assists, and 2/9 from the field and 0/5 from three.
I mean, hey, that's just dead weight on the floor today.
Will gives another team a win in Manhattan.
Frank is going to have a real hard time defending him now.
He has really been quite awful in conference play.
The comment above said it best. He's a shooter. If he can't hit shots, he needs to sit. I think that's all you can say about that.
He probably played around 30 minutes, and his stat line was 4 pts, 2 assists, and 2/9 from the field and 0/5 from three.
I mean, hey, that's just dead weight on the floor today.
He did more damage defensively today, except for the last 2 minutes when he clinched it for ISU.
He provides nothing to the team. Sad really.
This. Now he isn't even looking to shoot, so the one thing he is decent at (debatable) he has stopped doing.
Angel, being bipolar, lost the game. Will was just Will.Yeah, Angel with 11 points, 8 assists and 2 turnovers lost the game. Will with his 4 points, 0-5 from 3 and 2 TOs and assists was only being, only more so.
QuoteAngel, being bipolar, lost the game. Will was just Will.Yeah, Angel with 11 points, 8 assists and 2 turnovers lost the game. Will with his 4 points, 0-5 from 3 and 2 TOs and assists was only being, only more so.
Should have been bench for Shane the whole second half. He sucks.
Will gives another team a win in Manhattan.
Frank is going to have a real hard time defending him now.
He has really been quite awful in conference play.
The comment above said it best. He's a shooter. If he can't hit shots, he needs to sit. I think that's all you can say about that.
He probably played around 30 minutes, and his stat line was 4 pts, 2 assists, and 2/9 from the field and 0/5 from three.
I mean, hey, that's just dead weight on the floor today.
He did more damage defensively today, except for the last 2 minutes when he clinched it for ISU.
You've got to be a special kind of stupid not to recognize the guard who sealed it for ISU.
Will gives another team a win in Manhattan.
Frank is going to have a real hard time defending him now.
He has really been quite awful in conference play.
The comment above said it best. He's a shooter. If he can't hit shots, he needs to sit. I think that's all you can say about that.
He probably played around 30 minutes, and his stat line was 4 pts, 2 assists, and 2/9 from the field and 0/5 from three.
I mean, hey, that's just dead weight on the floor today.
He did more damage defensively today, except for the last 2 minutes when he clinched it for ISU.
You've got to be a special kind of stupid not to recognize the guard who sealed it for ISU.
Not sure what that means.
QuoteAngel, being bipolar, lost the game. Will was just Will.Yeah, Angel with 11 points, 8 assists and 2 turnovers lost the game. Will with his 4 points, 0-5 from 3 and 2 TOs and assists was only being, only more so.
Should have been bench for Shane the whole second half. He sucks.
Might want to re-watch the last 5 minutes.
Will gives another team a win in Manhattan.
Frank is going to have a real hard time defending him now.
He has really been quite awful in conference play.
The comment above said it best. He's a shooter. If he can't hit shots, he needs to sit. I think that's all you can say about that.
He probably played around 30 minutes, and his stat line was 4 pts, 2 assists, and 2/9 from the field and 0/5 from three.
I mean, hey, that's just dead weight on the floor today.
He did more damage defensively today, except for the last 2 minutes when he clinched it for ISU.
You've got to be a special kind of stupid not to recognize the guard who sealed it for ISU.
Not sure what that means.
Pretty much proves my point.
Huge coward, that's the worst part
Your point was that you suck at posting cogent thoughts?
Hit the showers, Spradsendruber. For the rest of the season.
my only hope is that jones sticks around. gets better at defending. isn't a pussy. and then comes in next year and takes 70% of will's minutes.
sad thing is Sprads could have been his ususal SUCKY self shooting the ball today ............0-5 from 3 and 0-7 on non layups............ and we could have still won had he just played decent defense on Christopersen.
if tay got will's minutes we would hate tay just as much as we hate will
if tay got will's minutes we would hate tay just as much as we hate will
if tay got will's minutes we would hate tay just as much as we hate will
i'm pretty sure the intelligent fans would hate him slightly more. we need jones.
Huge coward, that's the worst part
Yes. An incredible coward.
Will needs to be a off the bench minutes eater/3 pt specialist. The fact he's a starter doesn't speak well for our team.
but but but but... He's white!Will needs to be a off the bench minutes eater/3 pt specialist. The fact he's a starter doesn't speak well for our team.
But he sucks at 3's.
if tay got will's minutes we would hate tay just as much as we hate will
i'm pretty sure the intelligent fans would hate him slightly more. we need jones.
I don't want him run, but I would be fine with him playing less.
I don't want him run, but I would be fine with him playing less.
yes, I was over emotional. I still want him on the team playing less.
Will needs to be a off the bench minutes eater/3 pt specialist. The fact he's a starter doesn't speak well for our team.
But he sucks at 3's.
I don't want him run, but I would be fine with him playing less.
I don't want him run, but I would be fine with him playing less.
if jones is the best and brightest hope, a kim englishesque resurgence in 3pt% is the second brightest hope.
I don't want him run, but I would be fine with him playing less.
if jones is the best and brightest hope, a kim englishesque resurgence in 3pt% is the second brightest hope.
so whats the deal than with Jones' knee, has it progressed to a knee hernia?I don't want him run, but I would be fine with him playing less.
if jones is the best and brightest hope, a kim englishesque resurgence in 3pt% is the second brightest hope.
Yes.
Put me on #team20minutes
so whats the deal than with Jones' knee, has it progressed to a knee hernia?I don't want him run, but I would be fine with him playing less.
if jones is the best and brightest hope, a kim englishesque resurgence in 3pt% is the second brightest hope.
Yes.
Put me on #team20minutes
guess so. pretty obvious that Sprads isn't getting it done. Need Jones or someone else in there. Oh and my bad, it was an ankle not a knee. I thought the talking point was that the ankle was a week or two. Aren't we on week 4?so whats the deal than with Jones' knee, has it progressed to a knee hernia?I don't want him run, but I would be fine with him playing less.
if jones is the best and brightest hope, a kim englishesque resurgence in 3pt% is the second brightest hope.
Yes.
Put me on #team20minutes
are you completely oblivious to all things kansas state?
if tay got will's minutes we would hate tay just as much as we hate will
guess so. pretty obvious that Sprads isn't getting it done. Need Jones or someone else in there. Oh and my bad, it was an ankle not a knee. I thought the talking point was that the ankle was a week or two. Aren't we on week 4?so whats the deal than with Jones' knee, has it progressed to a knee hernia?I don't want him run, but I would be fine with him playing less.
if jones is the best and brightest hope, a kim englishesque resurgence in 3pt% is the second brightest hope.
Yes.
Put me on #team20minutes
are you completely oblivious to all things kansas state?
if tay got will's minutes we would hate tay just as much as we hate will
I'll give you credit for constancy, but at some point guessing that Tay is going to suck is a awful becomes a really terrible excuse. Will put on the worst performance of any Cat this season. At least Irving stayed in front of Christopherson in the limited minutes he played.
Hadn't seen that he officially broke it. Last I saw was sprain. Thanks for the update! :thumbsup: :driving:guess so. pretty obvious that Sprads isn't getting it done. Need Jones or someone else in there. Oh and my bad, it was an ankle not a knee. I thought the talking point was that the ankle was a week or two. Aren't we on week 4?so whats the deal than with Jones' knee, has it progressed to a knee hernia?I don't want him run, but I would be fine with him playing less.
if jones is the best and brightest hope, a kim englishesque resurgence in 3pt% is the second brightest hope.
Yes.
Put me on #team20minutes
are you completely oblivious to all things kansas state?
He broke his ankle, dumbass
I like that we went from being mad at Frank for running off so many 3*s before their prime, to encouraging it (even if it was only an overemotional statement).
I guess it's become the mindset of K-State fans.
Angel against KU was worse, but I completely agree with what you're getting at.if tay got will's minutes we would hate tay just as much as we hate will
I'll give you credit for constancy, but at some point guessing that Tay is going to suck is a awful becomes a really terrible excuse. Will put on the worst performance of any Cat this season. At least Irving stayed in front of Christopherson in the limited minutes he played.
Angel against KU was worse, but I completely agree with what you're getting at.if tay got will's minutes we would hate tay just as much as we hate will
I'll give you credit for constancy, but at some point guessing that Tay is going to suck is a awful becomes a really terrible excuse. Will put on the worst performance of any Cat this season. At least Irving stayed in front of Christopherson in the limited minutes he played.
Angel against KU was worse, but I completely agree with what you're getting at.if tay got will's minutes we would hate tay just as much as we hate will
I'll give you credit for constancy, but at some point guessing that Tay is going to suck is a awful becomes a really terrible excuse. Will put on the worst performance of any Cat this season. At least Irving stayed in front of Christopherson in the limited minutes he played.
Angel had a poor half against KU. Will sucked the whole game.
I really thought the pregame tunnel dance feat. Will Spradling was going to get him out of his funk.I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy that. Really hoped he did "The Carlton."
*NOTE* WILL CAN ONLY BE COMPARED TO WHITE PLAYERS
I am harder on white players than I am players of any other race.(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zuguide.com%2Fimage%2FWill-Patton-Remember-the-Titans.2.jpg&hash=65d5c7f3ff35e3331222af8e7db02d9c8cfd5a58)
So this year's goat is pretty well cinched right?
I don't get the sense that vic actually wants to play so I have a hard time blaming him. he seems to hate basketball.
I don't get the sense that vic actually wants to play so I have a hard time blaming him. he seems to hate basketball.
Odd. I thought I'd noticed that at at times this year as well but I'd decided that it was just me wishing that Vic wasn't playing and hating the game when he was.
Angel against KU was worse, but I completely agree with what you're getting at.if tay got will's minutes we would hate tay just as much as we hate will
I'll give you credit for constancy, but at some point guessing that Tay is going to suck is a awful becomes a really terrible excuse. Will put on the worst performance of any Cat this season. At least Irving stayed in front of Christopherson in the limited minutes he played.
Angel had a poor half against KU. Will sucked the whole game.
Angel against KU was worse, but I completely agree with what you're getting at.if tay got will's minutes we would hate tay just as much as we hate will
I'll give you credit for constancy, but at some point guessing that Tay is going to suck is a awful becomes a really terrible excuse. Will put on the worst performance of any Cat this season. At least Irving stayed in front of Christopherson in the limited minutes he played.
Angel had a poor half against KU. Will sucked the whole game.
Yep, I believe Angel had 1 second half turnover against KU. Also Angel was pretty good defensively against Tyshawn. Will's defense against Christopherson was poor. I don't mind the 4-4 from the 3 point line, crap happens. I do mind that he couldn't stay between his man and the basket. But really it isn't Will's fault. Would you guys be mad mat me if I asked for a scholarship, got one, and was asked to guard Royce White?
Angel against KU was worse, but I completely agree with what you're getting at.if tay got will's minutes we would hate tay just as much as we hate will
I'll give you credit for constancy, but at some point guessing that Tay is going to suck is a awful becomes a really terrible excuse. Will put on the worst performance of any Cat this season. At least Irving stayed in front of Christopherson in the limited minutes he played.
Angel had a poor half against KU. Will sucked the whole game.
Yep, I believe Angel had 1 second half turnover against KU. Also Angel was pretty good defensively against Tyshawn. Will's defense against Christopherson was poor. I don't mind the 4-4 from the 3 point line, crap happens. I do mind that he couldn't stay between his man and the basket. But really it isn't Will's fault. Would you guys be mad mat me if I asked for a scholarship, got one, and was asked to guard Royce White?
Angel against KU was worse, but I completely agree with what you're getting at.if tay got will's minutes we would hate tay just as much as we hate will
I'll give you credit for constancy, but at some point guessing that Tay is going to suck is a awful becomes a really terrible excuse. Will put on the worst performance of any Cat this season. At least Irving stayed in front of Christopherson in the limited minutes he played.
Angel had a poor half against KU. Will sucked the whole game.
Yep, I believe Angel had 1 second half turnover against KU. Also Angel was pretty good defensively against Tyshawn. Will's defense against Christopherson was poor. I don't mind the 4-4 from the 3 point line, crap happens. I do mind that he couldn't stay between his man and the basket. But really it isn't Will's fault. Would you guys be mad mat me if I asked for a scholarship, got one, and was asked to guard Royce White?
Was surprised when they said Tay's first turnover today was his first in 7 games. Pretty impressive.
Would you guys be mad mat me if I asked for a scholarship, got one, and was asked to guard Royce White?
Would you guys be mad mat me if I asked for a scholarship, got one, and was asked to guard Royce White?
Nope, you'd foul the crap out of him and then I'd boo my ass off at the refs for calling the foul.
Also, #TeamMrsDave
It's, like, why would you choose basketball instead of being in a band or something!?
Even mentioning Vic as a goat is the height of stupidity, he averages 6 minutes a game. He played two minutes today had one shot attempt and no other stat.
Angel against KU was worse, but I completely agree with what you're getting at.if tay got will's minutes we would hate tay just as much as we hate will
I'll give you credit for constancy, but at some point guessing that Tay is going to suck is a awful becomes a really terrible excuse. Will put on the worst performance of any Cat this season. At least Irving stayed in front of Christopherson in the limited minutes he played.
Angel had a poor half against KU. Will sucked the whole game.
Yep, I believe Angel had 1 second half turnover against KU. Also Angel was pretty good defensively against Tyshawn. Will's defense against Christopherson was poor. I don't mind the 4-4 from the 3 point line, crap happens. I do mind that he couldn't stay between his man and the basket. But really it isn't Will's fault. Would you guys be mad mat me if I asked for a scholarship, got one, and was asked to guard Royce White?
Even mentioning Vic as a goat is the height of stupidity, he averages 6 minutes a game. He played two minutes today had one shot attempt and no other stat.
his 2 minutes seemed like 84 minutes though. and you multiply his shot times 42 and he hit the rim zero times.
Would you guys be mad mat me if I asked for a scholarship, got one, and was asked to guard Royce White?
Nope, you'd foul the crap out of him and then I'd boo my ass off at the refs for calling the foul.
Also, #TeamMrsDave
I'm sure he's a lot better than what he is showing right now
Way to stick with only white comparo's wabash! I'm glad you can follow the rules!
I'm sure he's a lot better than what he is showing right now
I'm not sure he's that much better.
He just needs to be in a position to be a role player that comes in off the bench at the two and shoots threes. He needs to be Conner Teahan. And we need to stop pretending that he's going to be Kirk Heinrich.
Maybe it's been said in this thread, but I feel like Spradling is a lot like a young baseball player that starts out for the first couple months of his career in a hot streak hitting .300+, putting more balls over the wall than normal, and essentially exceeding any and all expectations right out of the gate. You look at him, can't figure out how he's really doing it, but the numbers say he's better than he looks. However, eventually, someone figures out that he can't hit a slider, and then everyone starts throwing sliders, and next thing you know, he's heading back down to AAA.
I'm sure he's a lot better than what he is showing right now, but I think last year may have been the fluke, and this year is more realistic. It's not like he's just missing open shots. He's not getting open. He's having trouble defending slow guys. He can't get to the line because he's incapable of putting the ball on the floor and getting past someone.
I just don't see him coming back from this. Of course, I'm probably way off base, but I just have a feeling that he'll be seeing less and less time, or possibly leaving to go play at a smaller school. :dunno:
I think he needs to be Jacob Pullen and not Denis Clemente.
Maybe it's been said in this thread, but I feel like Spradling is a lot like a young baseball player that starts out for the first couple months of his career in a hot streak hitting .300+, putting more balls over the wall than normal, and essentially exceeding any and all expectations right out of the gate. You look at him, can't figure out how he's really doing it, but the numbers say he's better than he looks. However, eventually, someone figures out that he can't hit a slider, and then everyone starts throwing sliders, and next thing you know, he's heading back down to AAA.
I'm sure he's a lot better than what he is showing right now, but I think last year may have been the fluke, and this year is more realistic. It's not like he's just missing open shots. He's not getting open. He's having trouble defending slow guys. He can't get to the line because he's incapable of putting the ball on the floor and getting past someone.
I just don't see him coming back from this. Of course, I'm probably way off base, but I just have a feeling that he'll be seeing less and less time, or possibly leaving to go play at a smaller school. :dunno:
Normally that guy wouldn't be batting 3rd coming down the stretch. u digg?
I think he needs to be Jacob Pullen and not Denis Clemente.
"We did a pretty good job on him other than a matchup," Martin said. "You go watch the film, I'm not telling you who and what, but we did a pretty good job on him unless there was a certain guy guarding him. Then it was all systems off and Christopherson is pretty good.
This year's goat has got to be Vic. Today's airball
Will is a headcase, he has the physical tools to be a decent guard for us, he obviously lacks the courage and or the aggression needed to realize it. He isn't even trying to take charges anymore, he has been mindfucked.
This year's goat has got to be Vic. Today's airball
I missed this live at the game. Just watched it on DVR. :lol:
This year's goat has got to be Vic. Today's airball
I missed this live at the game. Just watched it on DVR. :lol:
I never want to see him shoot the ball again. He needs to just act as a placeholder until an actual basketball player can replace him on the floor.
remember when angel bombed that pass to a streaking player hitting him in stride right under the basket only for the player to panic and kick it out. I was so pissed until I realized it was vic.
I didn't get to watch the game live because I was out of the country, but I just watched it, expecting Sprads to get destroyed based on what I had read here. I'm not sure what game all of you guys were watching, and although he didn't play great, Sprads was certainly not the reason we lost the game. Christopherson had 17 of his 29 points while being guarded by someone OTHER than Sprads. Sprads gave up 12 points...big rough ridin' deal. I only saw 2 times (4 points) where I thought Sprads played less than good defense, and even then he was trying like hell. the points Christopherson scored that really hurt were the ones late, especially that last 3, where Angel was guarding him (or should I say NOT guarding him)...let himself get taken completely out of the play by a screen. Sprads was adequate. Although Angel had a nice game, he again hurt us with some late game mistakes...a turnover, 3 missed ft's, and that piss poor defense on Christopherson when we were tied. No one is to blame, we got out hustled, they made some clutch shots. We didn't deserve to win.
I didn't get to watch the game live because I was out of the country, but I just watched it, expecting Sprads to get destroyed based on what I had read here. I'm not sure what game all of you guys were watching, and although he didn't play great, Sprads was certainly not the reason we lost the game. Christopherson had 17 of his 29 points while being guarded by someone OTHER than Sprads. Sprads gave up 12 points...big rough ridin' deal. I only saw 2 times (4 points) where I thought Sprads played less than good defense, and even then he was trying like hell. the points Christopherson scored that really hurt were the ones late, especially that last 3, where Angel was guarding him (or should I say NOT guarding him)...let himself get taken completely out of the play by a screen. Sprads was adequate. Although Angel had a nice game, he again hurt us with some late game mistakes...a turnover, 3 missed ft's, and that piss poor defense on Christopherson when we were tied. No one is to blame, we got out hustled, they made some clutch shots. We didn't deserve to win.
Fuktard post
Is there a BBIQ test out there that goEMAW members can be required to pass before posting? I'm not thinking anyone has to have HBBIQ before posting, but at least average. What do you guys think?Would at least get average, so sure.
Is there a BBIQ test out there that goEMAW members can be required to pass before posting? I'm not thinking anyone has to have HBBIQ before posting, but at least average. What do you guys think?Would at least get average, so sure.
I didn't get to watch the game live because I was out of the country, but I just watched it, expecting Sprads to get destroyed based on what I had read here. I'm not sure what game all of you guys were watching, and although he didn't play great, Sprads was certainly not the reason we lost the game. Christopherson had 17 of his 29 points while being guarded by someone OTHER than Sprads. Sprads gave up 12 points...big rough ridin' deal. I only saw 2 times (4 points) where I thought Sprads played less than good defense, and even then he was trying like hell. the points Christopherson scored that really hurt were the ones late, especially that last 3, where Angel was guarding him (or should I say NOT guarding him)...let himself get taken completely out of the play by a screen. Sprads was adequate. Although Angel had a nice game, he again hurt us with some late game mistakes...a turnover, 3 missed ft's, and that piss poor defense on Christopherson when we were tied. No one is to blame, we got out hustled, they made some clutch shots. We didn't deserve to win.
I didn't get to watch the game live because I was out of the country, but I just watched it, expecting Sprads to get destroyed based on what I had read here. I'm not sure what game all of you guys were watching, and although he didn't play great, Sprads was certainly not the reason we lost the game. Christopherson had 17 of his 29 points while being guarded by someone OTHER than Sprads. Sprads gave up 12 points...big rough ridin' deal. I only saw 2 times (4 points) where I thought Sprads played less than good defense, and even then he was trying like hell. the points Christopherson scored that really hurt were the ones late, especially that last 3, where Angel was guarding him (or should I say NOT guarding him)...let himself get taken completely out of the play by a screen. Sprads was adequate. Although Angel had a nice game, he again hurt us with some late game mistakes...a turnover, 3 missed ft's, and that piss poor defense on Christopherson when we were tied. No one is to blame, we got out hustled, they made some clutch shots. We didn't deserve to win.
bullshitI didn't get to watch the game live because I was out of the country, but I just watched it, expecting Sprads to get destroyed based on what I had read here. I'm not sure what game all of you guys were watching, and although he didn't play great, Sprads was certainly not the reason we lost the game. Christopherson had 17 of his 29 points while being guarded by someone OTHER than Sprads. Sprads gave up 12 points...big rough ridin' deal. I only saw 2 times (4 points) where I thought Sprads played less than good defense, and even then he was trying like hell. the points Christopherson scored that really hurt were the ones late, especially that last 3, where Angel was guarding him (or should I say NOT guarding him)...let himself get taken completely out of the play by a screen. Sprads was adequate. Although Angel had a nice game, he again hurt us with some late game mistakes...a turnover, 3 missed ft's, and that piss poor defense on Christopherson when we were tied. No one is to blame, we got out hustled, they made some clutch shots. We didn't deserve to win.
you do realize that angel did exactly what he was supposed to do on defense on that three that christopherson hit at the end don't you?
bullshitI didn't get to watch the game live because I was out of the country, but I just watched it, expecting Sprads to get destroyed based on what I had read here. I'm not sure what game all of you guys were watching, and although he didn't play great, Sprads was certainly not the reason we lost the game. Christopherson had 17 of his 29 points while being guarded by someone OTHER than Sprads. Sprads gave up 12 points...big rough ridin' deal. I only saw 2 times (4 points) where I thought Sprads played less than good defense, and even then he was trying like hell. the points Christopherson scored that really hurt were the ones late, especially that last 3, where Angel was guarding him (or should I say NOT guarding him)...let himself get taken completely out of the play by a screen. Sprads was adequate. Although Angel had a nice game, he again hurt us with some late game mistakes...a turnover, 3 missed ft's, and that piss poor defense on Christopherson when we were tied. No one is to blame, we got out hustled, they made some clutch shots. We didn't deserve to win.
you do realize that angel did exactly what he was supposed to do on defense on that three that christopherson hit at the end don't you?
The screen was too deep on the floor. Our ball-screen defense is called by the guy guarding the screener. Jordan (Henriquez) made a call, and Angel (Rodriguez) did what Jordan asked him to do. You have to give (Scott) Christopherson credit, but that is not what cost us the game, what cost us the game is selfishness, immaturity and nonsense for the past two days.”
no coach speak there. Next thing I know you will tell me all the lines in Frank's post game about not holding grudges between games are true too!bullshitI didn't get to watch the game live because I was out of the country, but I just watched it, expecting Sprads to get destroyed based on what I had read here. I'm not sure what game all of you guys were watching, and although he didn't play great, Sprads was certainly not the reason we lost the game. Christopherson had 17 of his 29 points while being guarded by someone OTHER than Sprads. Sprads gave up 12 points...big rough ridin' deal. I only saw 2 times (4 points) where I thought Sprads played less than good defense, and even then he was trying like hell. the points Christopherson scored that really hurt were the ones late, especially that last 3, where Angel was guarding him (or should I say NOT guarding him)...let himself get taken completely out of the play by a screen. Sprads was adequate. Although Angel had a nice game, he again hurt us with some late game mistakes...a turnover, 3 missed ft's, and that piss poor defense on Christopherson when we were tied. No one is to blame, we got out hustled, they made some clutch shots. We didn't deserve to win.
you do realize that angel did exactly what he was supposed to do on defense on that three that christopherson hit at the end don't you?
Jesus guy, you literally get all of your K-State basketball news from the select threads you post in on this site. I say this with all sincerity, you are a stupid [redacted]. The following quote from Frank appears like three different places on this site it addition to kstatesports.com and various news media outlets.QuoteThe screen was too deep on the floor. Our ball-screen defense is called by the guy guarding the screener. Jordan (Henriquez) made a call, and Angel (Rodriguez) did what Jordan asked him to do. You have to give (Scott) Christopherson credit, but that is not what cost us the game, what cost us the game is selfishness, immaturity and nonsense for the past two days.”
no coach speak there. Next thing I know you will tell me all the lines in Frank's post game about not holding grudges between games are true too!bullshitI didn't get to watch the game live because I was out of the country, but I just watched it, expecting Sprads to get destroyed based on what I had read here. I'm not sure what game all of you guys were watching, and although he didn't play great, Sprads was certainly not the reason we lost the game. Christopherson had 17 of his 29 points while being guarded by someone OTHER than Sprads. Sprads gave up 12 points...big rough ridin' deal. I only saw 2 times (4 points) where I thought Sprads played less than good defense, and even then he was trying like hell. the points Christopherson scored that really hurt were the ones late, especially that last 3, where Angel was guarding him (or should I say NOT guarding him)...let himself get taken completely out of the play by a screen. Sprads was adequate. Although Angel had a nice game, he again hurt us with some late game mistakes...a turnover, 3 missed ft's, and that piss poor defense on Christopherson when we were tied. No one is to blame, we got out hustled, they made some clutch shots. We didn't deserve to win.
you do realize that angel did exactly what he was supposed to do on defense on that three that christopherson hit at the end don't you?
Jesus guy, you literally get all of your K-State basketball news from the select threads you post in on this site. I say this with all sincerity, you are a stupid [redacted]. The following quote from Frank appears like three different places on this site it addition to kstatesports.com and various news media outlets.QuoteThe screen was too deep on the floor. Our ball-screen defense is called by the guy guarding the screener. Jordan (Henriquez) made a call, and Angel (Rodriguez) did what Jordan asked him to do. You have to give (Scott) Christopherson credit, but that is not what cost us the game, what cost us the game is selfishness, immaturity and nonsense for the past two days.”
I doubt that JO made that call being that he didn't push up at all on the screener to get Angel under it. JO left plenty of room to allow for him to go over the screen. I might be willing to believe that JO made the call to go under, but the game tape doesn't follow that. JO practically dry humps when he pushes up a screen. He barely made contact and had his hands up with no attempt to gain leverage.
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But I guess you will also tell me Angel didn't blow any play calls in the final few minutes by looking for his shot. Frank was just referring to no on in particular when he was bitching about people being immature and selfish.
We can debate whether or not Angel should have gone under or over the screen all day (under is the correct answer, but I digress), but the point of the last few pages of this thread, in my opinion, have turned into, "We shouldn't be so mad at Will because Angel makes mistakes, too," from some people.
However, personally, I think it's a talking point for people who want or think Will can succeed as a starter in this league, and it's become painfully obvious that he is not a starter, and if he doesn't start hitting three point shots and finding a way to get to the line, he provides no value on this roster at all and needs to transfer.
People need to stop trying to defend Will by pointing at Angel and going, "But, but, but, but..." Angel will be a pretty good starter for this team for the next three years. He's already a pretty good starter right now. Will will not be a pretty good starter. He may be a pretty good role player if he finds his shot, but Will playing 30 minutes needs to stop ASAP.
Did I mention that Sprads was guarding Christopherson for just 12 of the 29 points he scored?
Rewatch the game towel rack. You'll figure it out.
no coach speak there. Next thing I know you will tell me all the lines in Frank's post game about not holding grudges between games are true too!bullshitI didn't get to watch the game live because I was out of the country, but I just watched it, expecting Sprads to get destroyed based on what I had read here. I'm not sure what game all of you guys were watching, and although he didn't play great, Sprads was certainly not the reason we lost the game. Christopherson had 17 of his 29 points while being guarded by someone OTHER than Sprads. Sprads gave up 12 points...big rough ridin' deal. I only saw 2 times (4 points) where I thought Sprads played less than good defense, and even then he was trying like hell. the points Christopherson scored that really hurt were the ones late, especially that last 3, where Angel was guarding him (or should I say NOT guarding him)...let himself get taken completely out of the play by a screen. Sprads was adequate. Although Angel had a nice game, he again hurt us with some late game mistakes...a turnover, 3 missed ft's, and that piss poor defense on Christopherson when we were tied. No one is to blame, we got out hustled, they made some clutch shots. We didn't deserve to win.
you do realize that angel did exactly what he was supposed to do on defense on that three that christopherson hit at the end don't you?
Jesus guy, you literally get all of your K-State basketball news from the select threads you post in on this site. I say this with all sincerity, you are a stupid [redacted]. The following quote from Frank appears like three different places on this site it addition to kstatesports.com and various news media outlets.QuoteThe screen was too deep on the floor. Our ball-screen defense is called by the guy guarding the screener. Jordan (Henriquez) made a call, and Angel (Rodriguez) did what Jordan asked him to do. You have to give (Scott) Christopherson credit, but that is not what cost us the game, what cost us the game is selfishness, immaturity and nonsense for the past two days.”
I doubt that JO made that call being that he didn't push up at all on the screener to get Angel under it. JO left plenty of room to allow for him to go over the screen. I might be willing to believe that JO made the call to go under, but the game tape doesn't follow that. JO practically dry humps when he pushes up a screen. He barely made contact and had his hands up with no attempt to gain leverage.
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But I guess you will also tell me Angel didn't blow any play calls in the final few minutes by looking for his shot. Frank was just referring to no on in particular when he was bitching about people being immature and selfish.
I did not see the game, why are we playing four on five. Where the hell is angel?
Rewatch the game towel rack. You'll figure it out.
Remember those two drives at the end of the game where Christopherson was able to just waltz into the lane and take a fairly uncontested ten foot jumper?
Guess who was guarding him?
Hint: Look for #55
As we all know, Sprads has struggled this year in the "making the defense pay when given open looks" department. If you look at Sim's career, he had an alright FR season but really hit a slump as a SO. The major difference between their careers was that however flawed Ernie Kent's staff was at Oregon, and they were epically flawed later in his tenure, they were not suffering from the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) delusion that Sim was some sort of "program savior" as our staff seems to think Sprads is. Their SO campaigns were/are similar except that Sim got about half the minutes Sprads is getting.
As we all know, Sprads has struggled this year in the "making the defense pay when given open looks" department. If you look at Sim's career, he had an alright FR season but really hit a slump as a SO. The major difference between their careers was that however flawed Ernie Kent's staff was at Oregon, and they were epically flawed later in his tenure, they were not suffering from the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) delusion that Sim was some sort of "program savior" as our staff seems to think Sprads is. Their SO campaigns were/are similar except that Sim got about half the minutes Sprads is getting.
Sims also had Tajuan Porter in his third year of starting. If we still had Pullen, Spradling would probably play about half the minutes he currently does.
Also Sprads is not a set shooter that people are trying to say he is. He can do more in the lane (and has decent handles) but he's been playing like a chickenshit since the Bama game. I swear to god nothing pisses me off more than his drive and retreats on offense.
As we all know, Sprads has struggled this year in the "making the defense pay when given open looks" department. If you look at Sim's career, he had an alright FR season but really hit a slump as a SO. The major difference between their careers was that however flawed Ernie Kent's staff was at Oregon, and they were epically flawed later in his tenure, they were not suffering from the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) delusion that Sim was some sort of "program savior" as our staff seems to think Sprads is. Their SO campaigns were/are similar except that Sim got about half the minutes Sprads is getting.
Sims also had Tajuan Porter in his third year of starting. If we still had Pullen, Spradling would probably play about half the minutes he currently does.
Also Sprads is not a set shooter that people are trying to say he is. He can do more in the lane (and has decent handles) but he's been playing like a chickenshit since the Bama game. I swear to god nothing pisses me off more than his drive and retreats on offense.
That's BS, it's got nothing to do with him being a coward or being chickenshit or however you want to put it. That's just not his game.
If you saw him play AAU ball, you would know penetrating, breaking down the defense, and creating wasn't his game then, so it's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to think that was going to be his game now. An occasional mid-range floater here and there, but not an ankle breaker in any way.
Focus on what he CAN do well, not what he can't do.
Rewatch the game towel rack. You'll figure it out.
Remember those two drives at the end of the game where Christopherson was able to just waltz into the lane and take a fairly uncontested ten foot jumper?
Guess who was guarding him?
Hint: Look for #55
As we all know, Sprads has struggled this year in the "making the defense pay when given open looks" department. If you look at Sim's career, he had an alright FR season but really hit a slump as a SO. The major difference between their careers was that however flawed Ernie Kent's staff was at Oregon, and they were epically flawed later in his tenure, they were not suffering from the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) delusion that Sim was some sort of "program savior" as our staff seems to think Sprads is. Their SO campaigns were/are similar except that Sim got about half the minutes Sprads is getting.
Sims also had Tajuan Porter in his third year of starting. If we still had Pullen, Spradling would probably play about half the minutes he currently does.
Also Sprads is not a set shooter that people are trying to say he is. He can do more in the lane (and has decent handles) but he's been playing like a chickenshit since the Bama game. I swear to god nothing pisses me off more than his drive and retreats on offense.
That's BS, it's got nothing to do with him being a coward or being chickenshit or however you want to put it. That's just not his game.
If you saw him play AAU ball, you would know penetrating, breaking down the defense, and creating wasn't his game then, so it's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to think that was going to be his game now. An occasional mid-range floater here and there, but not an ankle breaker in any way.
Focus on what he CAN do well, not what he can't do.
A floater here and there is all I'm asking for. He has shown at the D1 level that he can get into the paint - the Alabama game is the last time I remember seeing it. No, he isn't going to break someone down, but he is more than capable of getting in the paint off a pick and roll or attacking off a screen or from the high post handoff. Plays like that are things we can (and should) expect all of our guards to be able to execute, but Will won't do it. NOT because he can't.
As we all know, Sprads has struggled this year in the "making the defense pay when given open looks" department. If you look at Sim's career, he had an alright FR season but really hit a slump as a SO. The major difference between their careers was that however flawed Ernie Kent's staff was at Oregon, and they were epically flawed later in his tenure, they were not suffering from the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) delusion that Sim was some sort of "program savior" as our staff seems to think Sprads is. Their SO campaigns were/are similar except that Sim got about half the minutes Sprads is getting.
Sims also had Tajuan Porter in his third year of starting. If we still had Pullen, Spradling would probably play about half the minutes he currently does.
Also Sprads is not a set shooter that people are trying to say he is. He can do more in the lane (and has decent handles) but he's been playing like a chickenshit since the Bama game. I swear to god nothing pisses me off more than his drive and retreats on offense.
That's BS, it's got nothing to do with him being a coward or being chickenshit or however you want to put it. That's just not his game.
If you saw him play AAU ball, you would know penetrating, breaking down the defense, and creating wasn't his game then, so it's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to think that was going to be his game now. An occasional mid-range floater here and there, but not an ankle breaker in any way.
Focus on what he CAN do well, not what he can't do.
A floater here and there is all I'm asking for. He has shown at the D1 level that he can get into the paint - the Alabama game is the last time I remember seeing it. No, he isn't going to break someone down, but he is more than capable of getting in the paint off a pick and roll or attacking off a screen or from the high post handoff. Plays like that are things we can (and should) expect all of our guards to be able to execute, but Will won't do it. NOT because he can't.
He needs a niche. Fully agree.
That said, it is rough ridin' disappointing. I mean, he has been built up a lot and given everything that he could be given. He isn't the next hensen like a bunch of idiots though, he isn't the next keaton paige either. He isn't the next anything because most fans don't remember the names of the people that he is similar to given a year or two passing.
Just disappointing for fans and sad for Will. Absolute effort just isn't enough at this level no matter how much his family and coach yell at him.
Let's get this straight, at no point did I say "Sprads is strictly a spot up shooter and that's it"
All I did was compare him to another player with similar attributes and hopefully a similar career arc and everybody hits the "strictly spot up!" panic button.
He needs a niche. Fully agree.
That said, it is rough ridin' disappointing. I mean, he has been built up a lot and given everything that he could be given. He isn't the next hensen like a bunch of idiots though, he isn't the next keaton paige either. He isn't the next anything because most fans don't remember the names of the people that he is similar to given a year or two passing.
Just disappointing for fans and sad for Will. Absolute effort just isn't enough at this level no matter how much his family and coach yell at him.
Paige actually had a similar regression, but from his SO to his JR year.
And Rusty is right, Sprads has shown to have more to his game than just being a set shooter. The late lapses against Christopherson aside, he's been a solid perimeter defender, and definitely no worse than any of our other guards. He is decent at getting a shot once in a while, no necessarily getting to the rim, but getting inside of a defense for a pull up jumper or floater. If you believe in plus/minus stats (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas-state/will-spradling/plus_minus), his impact is mostly positive even this season.
But there is much more that he could provide and most of that is shooting the ball. Its just becomes hard to justify his shooting given his minutes and the number of shots he's taken.
He's becoming a volume shooter that's not really good at hitting shots for one reason or another.
His eFG right now in conference play is atrocious for a kid that was at 50% last year.
He needs a niche. Fully agree.
That said, it is rough ridin' disappointing. I mean, he has been built up a lot and given everything that he could be given. He isn't the next hensen like a bunch of idiots though, he isn't the next keaton paige either. He isn't the next anything because most fans don't remember the names of the people that he is similar to given a year or two passing.
Just disappointing for fans and sad for Will. Absolute effort just isn't enough at this level no matter how much his family and coach yell at him.
Paige actually had a similar regression, but from his SO to his JR year.
And Rusty is right, Sprads has shown to have more to his game than just being a set shooter. The late lapses against Christopherson aside, he's been a solid perimeter defender, and definitely no worse than any of our other guards. He is decent at getting a shot once in a while, no necessarily getting to the rim, but getting inside of a defense for a pull up jumper or floater. If you believe in plus/minus stats (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas-state/will-spradling/plus_minus), his impact is mostly positive even this season.
But there is much more that he could provide and most of that is shooting the ball. Its just becomes hard to justify his shooting given his minutes and the number of shots he's taken.
Let's get this straight, at no point did I say "Sprads is strictly a spot up shooter and that's it"
All I did was compare him to another player with similar attributes and hopefully a similar career arc and everybody hits the "strictly spot up!" panic button.
Lots of people have been saying that, even though you haven't.
Let's get this straight, at no point did I say "Sprads is strictly a spot up shooter and that's it"
All I did was compare him to another player with similar attributes and hopefully a similar career arc and everybody hits the "strictly spot up!" panic button.
Lots of people have been saying that, even though you haven't.
I did. Because that's what he is. That doesn't conflict with what you said at all, Rusty; he can penetrate and get to the lane, but he rarely does.
Will's shot% in conference is 18%. That's far from a volume shooter.
have you guys seen this?
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Will's shot% in conference is 18%. That's far from a volume shooter.
My definition of volume shooter is shooting a high number of shots to get a relatively low amount of points. Due to his poor efficiency this year, he's shooting much more than he should to get to the points he has.
I'm not talking about his shot percentage. I realize that he's not J'Covan Brown.
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HE'S NOT TAKING A HIGH NUMBER OF SHOTSimho thats the problem
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I think sprads will turn the corner though (naive maybe but I don't care)
he's not a spot up shooter. he's been a guy that has shot off the dribble all his life. and i completely disagree with the people saying he can't play at this level or that his skills or athletic ability limits him to a marginal role. his inability to perform this year (and by perform, i mean shoot) is inexplicable, except perhaps by cowardice.
I think sprads will turn the corner though (naive maybe but I don't care)he's not a spot up shooter. he's been a guy that has shot off the dribble all his life. and i completely disagree with the people saying he can't play at this level or that his skills or athletic ability limits him to a marginal role. his inability to perform this year (and by perform, i mean shoot) is inexplicable, except perhaps by cowardice.
Watching Sprads struggle has been frustrating, and his inability to hit shots has hurt this team, but I agree with Chings that at some point he will turn the corner. It may not be this year completely, though I think he still has at least one 4-6 from 3 game coming. And I agree with sys, that given what he had done up until the Big 12 season this year, his performance in conference games is about as inexplicable performance by a K-State player than I've seen in a long time, maybe ever. I don't necessarily think he's an all-league caliber player, but he's a good player and has ability to shoot 3s at a clip in the high 30s and be a double digit scorer. And he's going to be a 25 MPG guy (minimum) the rest of his career; I'm positive he'll find his shot/scoring ability again. Hopefully sooner than later.
HE'S NOT TAKING A HIGH NUMBER OF SHOTSimho thats the problem
I think sprads will turn the corner though (naive maybe but I don't care)
I don't necessarily think he's an all-league caliber player ...does this really need to be clarified. as confident as i am that angel will be 1st or 2nd team all conference when it's all said and done i'm as confident Spradling won't ever be considered.
It may not be this year completely, though I think he still has at least one 4-6 from 3 game cominghis 4-6 game will probably be tonight. he showed up last time against A&M so there might be something there. also he's played well at Sprint Center so we might be surprised in the conference tourney.
his 4-6 game will probably be tonight. he showed up last time against A&M so there might be something there. also he's played well at Sprint Center so we might be surprised in the conference tourney.
HE'S NOT TAKING A HIGH NUMBER OF SHOTSimho thats the problem
I think sprads will turn the corner though (naive maybe but I don't care)
Sure he will, next year. At this point it has to be more mechanical than mental, he needs the off season to regroup.
Mitch Holthus compared him to Steve Henson on Saturday.
We all knowAngelSpradling is going to improve next season.
Lol Fran quote:
"he has been struggling from behind the arc the last 14 games".
:lol:
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He plays winning basketball and anyone with at least 50 IQ understands why. There is reason he plays 35 minutesa game.
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Pretty sure Will was guarding Turner when he started going off....no?
Pretty sure Will was guarding Turner when he started going off....no?
2 things...
1. Sprads isn't as bad as many make him out to be, tonight's game was not where he needs to be, but was better.
2. It's clear Frank loves (LOVES) and trusts Sprads a lot, so get used to him playing a lot. Even if shooting terrible.
I did appreciate (and agree with) Fran's point that perhaps Sprads is playing too many minutes.
I did appreciate (and agree with) Fran's point that perhaps Sprads is playing too many minutes.
the only problem is that we're no better with him on the bench. weird stuff that frank has cooking.I did appreciate (and agree with) Fran's point that perhaps Sprads is playing too many minutes.
You mean the #1 goEMAW talking point for the last month? :gocho:
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2 things...
1. Sprads isn't as bad as many make him out to be, tonight's game was not where he needs to be, but was better.
2. It's clear Frank loves (LOVES) and trusts Sprads a lot, so get used to him playing a lot. Even if shooting terrible.
Discussing tonight about lineups during the game. Talked about starting Shane, Angel, JO, Gruds, and Jamar, w/ Will, Tay, and Gip completing an 8 man rotation. Thoughts _Fan?
the only problem is that we're no better with him on the bench. weird stuff that frank has cooking.I did appreciate (and agree with) Fran's point that perhaps Sprads is playing too many minutes.
You mean the #1 goEMAW talking point for the last month? :gocho:
2 things...
1. Sprads isn't as bad as many make him out to be, tonight's game was not where he needs to be, but was better.
2. It's clear Frank loves (LOVES) and trusts Sprads a lot, so get used to him playing a lot. Even if shooting terrible.
the only problem is that we're no better with him on the bench. weird stuff that frank has cooking.I did appreciate (and agree with) Fran's point that perhaps Sprads is playing too many minutes.
You mean the #1 goEMAW talking point for the last month? :gocho:
2 things...
1. Sprads isn't as bad as many make him out to be, tonight's game was not where he needs to be, but was better.
2. It's clear Frank loves (LOVES) and trusts Sprads a lot, so get used to him playing a lot. Even if shooting terrible.
The bar is so low for him that we are reduced to celebrating two made shots like he cured paralysis. He was better tonight and he was 2-5 from the field with 3 assists and 4 turnovers. Not to mention once again he struggled keeping a guy in front of him. Won't even hold him not creating for others against him.
He is absolutely horrible right now, but like I've said before I think he will be fine next year.
the only problem is that we're no better with him on the bench. weird stuff that frank has cooking.I did appreciate (and agree with) Fran's point that perhaps Sprads is playing too many minutes.
You mean the #1 goEMAW talking point for the last month? :gocho:
Yes, this is an overlooked point. We went on our big run at the end of the first half with Will in the game. Every time he touched the ball at that point all I could think was how much I hate Sprads, yet there's no denying he was on the court when good things were happening. Then with him on the bench I expected the team to be way better, but it wasn't and seemingly usually isn't. It's almost enough to understand why Frank thinks he's a 30+ minutes kind of player. But it's not.
the only problem is that we're no better with him on the bench. weird stuff that frank has cooking.I did appreciate (and agree with) Fran's point that perhaps Sprads is playing too many minutes.
You mean the #1 goEMAW talking point for the last month? :gocho:
Yes, this is an overlooked point. We went on our big run at the end of the first half with Will in the game. Every time he touched the ball at that point all I could think was how much I hate Sprads, yet there's no denying he was on the court when good things were happening. Then with him on the bench I expected the team to be way better, but it wasn't and seemingly usually isn't. It's almost enough to understand why Frank thinks he's a 30+ minutes kind of player. But it's not.
I posted Will's plus/minus earlier this week. It's strange, but true.
the only problem is that we're no better with him on the bench. weird stuff that frank has cooking.I did appreciate (and agree with) Fran's point that perhaps Sprads is playing too many minutes.
You mean the #1 goEMAW talking point for the last month? :gocho:
Yes, this is an overlooked point. We went on our big run at the end of the first half with Will in the game. Every time he touched the ball at that point all I could think was how much I hate Sprads, yet there's no denying he was on the court when good things were happening. Then with him on the bench I expected the team to be way better, but it wasn't and seemingly usually isn't. It's almost enough to understand why Frank thinks he's a 30+ minutes kind of player. But it's not.
I'm disappointed in you, using that garbage stat. You are better than that.
2 things...
1. Sprads isn't as bad as many make him out to be, tonight's game was not where he needs to be, but was better.
2. It's clear Frank loves (LOVES) and trusts Sprads a lot, so get used to him playing a lot. Even if shooting terrible.
The bar is so low for him that we are reduced to celebrating two made shots like he cured paralysis. He was better tonight and he was 2-5 from the field with 3 assists and 4 turnovers. Not to mention once again he struggled keeping a guy in front of him. Won't even hold him not creating for others against him.
He is absolutely horrible right now, but like I've said before I think he will be fine next year.
You don't think the offseason will just lead to some serious film analysis (not that there hasn't been already) where all of our opponents realize you can go at him when he is on on defense and hound him when he is on offense and he will be a -12 by the end?
I'm disappointed in you, using that garbage stat. You are better than that.
I know its a suspect stat for college basketball, but IMO it has some credibility when looked at long term.
Again, I think Will should be scaled back to 20-25 minutes per game, so I don't disagree that he should be playing less. But its also obvious to me that is not going to happen, so we can get as ticked at Will as we want, but all of that should be directed to Frank. I mean, Will played all but 1 minute in tonight's game.
I'm disappointed in you, using that garbage stat. You are better than that.
I know its a suspect stat for college basketball, but IMO it has some credibility when looked at long term.
Again, I think Will should be scaled back to 20-25 minutes per game, so I don't disagree that he should be playing less. But its also obvious to me that is not going to happen, so we can get as ticked at Will as we want, but all of that should be directed to Frank. I mean, Will played all but 1 minute in tonight's game.
2 things...
1. Sprads isn't as bad as many make him out to be, tonight's game was not where he needs to be, but was better.
2. It's clear Frank loves (LOVES) and trusts Sprads a lot, so get used to him playing a lot. Even if shooting terrible.
The bar is so low for him that we are reduced to celebrating two made shots like he cured paralysis. He was better tonight and he was 2-5 from the field with 3 assists and 4 turnovers. Not to mention once again he struggled keeping a guy in front of him. Won't even hold him not creating for others against him.
He is absolutely horrible right now, but like I've said before I think he will be fine next year.
Pretty sure Will was guarding Turner when he started going off....no?
Yep, ednksu or fuktard will claim to watch the game and chart each possession to claim otherwise
Pretty sure Will was guarding Turner when he started going off....no?
Yep, ednksu or fuktard will claim to watch the game and chart each possession to claim otherwise
Dammit, that was me! Though not because of Will.
Pretty sure Will was guarding Turner when he started going off....no?
Yep, ednksu or fuktard will claim to watch the game and chart each possession to claim otherwise
Dammit, that was me! Though not because of Will.
No you did it for fouls, fuktard did it last game to attempt to prove that Spradler didn't get torched by Christopherson
Irving >>>>>>>>> Spradling
Frank must be trying to appease the huge :opcat: :opcat: :opcat: element of K-State's fanbase.
Will Spradling, G 39 2-5 2-3 0-0 0 4 3 1 1 4 1 6
Martavious Irving, G 12 3-4 2-2 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 8
Why does Frank hate 'Tay?
:confused:
it's almost as though frank just gave goEMAW a big eff YOU
Will Spradling, G 39 2-5 2-3 0-0 0 4 3 1 1 4 1 6
Martavious Irving, G 12 3-4 2-2 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 8
Why does Frank hate 'Tay?
:confused:
The only part of Will's line tonight that I don't like is his minutes. Other than that, I'm ok with it. I know he can do more, (and less), but the team can do just fine with this line from him, aside from MPG.
The only part of Will's line tonight that I don't like is his minutes. Other than that, I'm ok with it. I know he can do more, (and less), but the team can do just fine with this line from him, aside from MPG.
For what he does with the ball in his hands, 4 TOs for him are like 8 for Angel
Will driving into the lane and getting his crap swatted was actually encouraging
Pretty sure Will was guarding Turner when he started going off....no?
Yep, ednksu or fuktard will claim to watch the game and chart each possession to claim otherwise
Well we can just simplify it and say Will rough ridin' sucks and has no business playing more than 20 minutes a game...that work out better for you?I think that would do wonders for him at this point.
Well we can just simplify it and say Will rough ridin' sucks and has no business playing more than 20 minutes a game...that work out better for you?I think that would do wonders for him at this point.
I think it would also help out his defense as well. I think the minutes at this point are weighing on him too much. One stat that popped out for me is the number of charges he has been taking. Tonight's game was the first in a long while where he took a solid charge. He was doing that a lot more against lesser competition earlier in the year. I think he is getting too gassed by the minutes to play defense well. He is frustrated all around and its killing his offense game too.
Pretty sure Will was guarding Turner when he started going off....no?
Yep, ednksu or fuktard will claim to watch the game and chart each possession to claim otherwise
typical shitty MIR post is typical
2@1606 guarded by Rodney
2@1309 guarded by Will on run out/broken defense
FTs@ 52 fouled by Jamar, but Will got beat
half
2@1723 Will moves off him to guard Ray Turner who is completely unguarded on the block, Turner moves back out for open jumper.
2@1515 guarded by Will, made shot over Will on good individual move, not horrid defense by Sprad
3@1302 guarded by Shane who got lost on a screen and late help by Angel
3@1056 guarded by Rodney who went for a steal/run out
3@834 guarded by Will trapped under a screen
3@16 guarded by Angel (zone)
so yeah, 12 of his 22 points Will wasn't on him, add 2 more points that weren't necessarily Will's fault because the defense was broken at 1309.
But don't let facts get in the way of your shitty posting. Also I give no fucks about Will's defense tonight. I just think its funny you once again try to call me out when you are flat out wrong. Nice work trying to make a strawman out of your posting as usual. The majority of him "going off" Will was not on him.
Will Spradling, G 39 2-5 2-3 0-0 0 4 3 1 1 4 1 6
Martavious Irving, G 12 3-4 2-2 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 8
Why does Frank hate 'Tay?
:confused:
Twelve minutes for Tay is borderline criminal
God I love your shitty posting. With my shitty meltdowns were a force to destroy any thread :cheers: we should totally get some :drink: and have a good :lol:Pretty sure Will was guarding Turner when he started going off....no?
Yep, ednksu or fuktard will claim to watch the game and chart each possession to claim otherwise
typical shitty MIR post is typical
2@1606 guarded by Rodney
2@1309 guarded by Will on run out/broken defense
FTs@ 52 fouled by Jamar, but Will got beat
half
2@1723 Will moves off him to guard Ray Turner who is completely unguarded on the block, Turner moves back out for open jumper.
2@1515 guarded by Will, made shot over Will on good individual move, not horrid defense by Sprad
3@1302 guarded by Shane who got lost on a screen and late help by Angel
3@1056 guarded by Rodney who went for a steal/run out
3@834 guarded by Will trapped under a screen
3@16 guarded by Angel (zone)
so yeah, 12 of his 22 points Will wasn't on him, add 2 more points that weren't necessarily Will's fault because the defense was broken at 1309.
But don't let facts get in the way of your shitty posting. Also I give no fucks about Will's defense tonight. I just think its funny you once again try to call me out when you are flat out wrong. Nice work trying to make a strawman out of your posting as usual. The majority of him "going off" Will was not on him.
:emawkid:
Pretty sure Will was guarding Turner when he started going off....no?
Yep, ednksu or fuktard will claim to watch the game and chart each possession to claim otherwise
typical shitty MIR post is typical
2@1606 guarded by Rodney
2@1309 guarded by Will on run out/broken defense
FTs@ 52 fouled by Jamar, but Will got beat
half
2@1723 Will moves off him to guard Ray Turner who is completely unguarded on the block, Turner moves back out for open jumper.
2@1515 guarded by Will, made shot over Will on good individual move, not horrid defense by Sprad
3@1302 guarded by Shane who got lost on a screen and late help by Angel
3@1056 guarded by Rodney who went for a steal/run out
3@834 guarded by Will trapped under a screen
3@16 guarded by Angel (zone)
so yeah, 12 of his 22 points Will wasn't on him, add 2 more points that weren't necessarily Will's fault because the defense was broken at 1309.
But don't let facts get in the way of your shitty posting. Also I give no fucks about Will's defense tonight. I just think its funny you once again try to call me out when you are flat out wrong. Nice work trying to make a strawman out of your posting as usual. The majority of him "going off" Will was not on him.
The only part of Will's line tonight that I don't like is his minutes. Other than that, I'm ok with it. I know he can do more, (and less), but the team can do just fine with this line from him, aside from MPG.
Will would be the best walk on to ever play in the Big 12 if he were a walk on. He's on scholarship because he deserves one. It will be fun laughing about this next year when Will is hitting shots again.
Give his minutes to 'Tay this year, though.
Will would be the best walk on to ever play in the Big 12 if he were a walk on. He's on scholarship because he deserves one. It will be fun laughing about this next year when Will is hitting shots again.
Give his minutes to 'Tay this year, though.
Sprads couldn't shoot worse so you will obviously be able to say "I told you so" at some point.
Will would be the best walk on to ever play in the Big 12 if he were a walk on. He's on scholarship because he deserves one. It will be fun laughing about this next year when Will is hitting shots again.
Give his minutes to 'Tay this year, though.
Will would be the best walk on to ever play in the Big 12 if he were a walk on. He's on scholarship because he deserves one. It will be fun laughing about this next year when Will is hitting shots again.
Give his minutes to 'Tay this year, though.
Will would be the best walk on to ever play in the Big 12 if he were a walk on. He's on scholarship because he deserves one. It will be fun laughing about this next year when Will is hitting shots again.
Give his minutes to 'Tay this year, though.
Yeah, Conner is a better shooter than Will but is far worse at everything else.
Will would be the best walk on to ever play in the Big 12 if he were a walk on. He's on scholarship because he deserves one. It will be fun laughing about this next year when Will is hitting shots again.
Give his minutes to 'Tay this year, though.
Yeah, Conner is a better shooter than Will but is far worse at everything else.
A little bit, but it's not like Teahan is some elite shooter; he's hitting 33% in league games as a 5th year SR.
Teahen is a mediocre player. Yet he has a higher FG% and 3pt% than Sprawling. And he averages about a bucket less a game than Sprads. Funny though, he only plays 20mins a game. Not 32. And you certainly won't ever see him play 39mins.
Guess Teahens coach just knows how to use him. Not all coaches are so gifted.
i made what i think is a great comparo here-
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=19180.msg462852#msg462852
elijah johnson is black will spradling
i made what i think is a great comparo here-
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=19180.msg462852#msg462852
elijah johnson is black will spradling
2. It's clear Frank loves (LOVES) and trusts Sprads a lot, so get used to him playing a lot. Even if shooting terrible.
i made what i think is a great comparo here-
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=19180.msg462852#msg462852
elijah johnson is black will spradling
That's actually not a bad comparo (minus the dunks).
even though Spradling has not shot the ball well it's not like anyone else off the bench is a huge upgrade. who brought up the point that we are not better w/ him sitting?
2. It's clear Frank loves (LOVES) and trusts Sprads a lot, so get used to him playing a lot. Even if shooting terrible.
i guess if we are going to have to live this we should start asking why Spradling is so trusted?
does it come down to his reliability - on defense & offense - to always be in the right place?
or is Frank living with his shortcomings because he believes he's always believed in the importance of a team leader and thinks Spradling is his best option?
even though Spradling has not shot the ball well it's not like anyone else off the bench is a huge upgrade. who brought up the point that we are not better w/ him sitting?
Jones injury impact might also be a factor in Spradling's playing time.
If you don't want CSU to go on a 25-2 run going into halftime, maybe you should tweak the lineup or the offense. Maybe a lineup of Jeremy Jones, Martavious Irving, Vic Ojeley, Omare Lawrence, and Thomas Gipson isn't a sensible combination.
i thought spradling was really good at getting through screens in the first half. i didn't pay attention to him in the 2nd, so i don't know if his defense slipped. i didn't have a sense that he was playing poorly though.
was surprised that he hit either of his 3s. thought he rushed both.
will's athleticism and skill level are akin to an average walk-on athlete.
No one has been as critical of Will than I, but I have to say this is absurd. I follow high school basketball closely and I can't begin to tell you how off base you are.
Does he guard Pigboy Saturday?
:sdeek:
I hate to rain on the Christopherson talking point, but he is 5th year senior in his third year of starting. That type of player will have those types of games. Being white doesn't make him a bad player.
I hate to rain on the Christopherson talking point, but he is 5th year senior in his third year of starting. That type of player will have those types of games. Being white doesn't make him a bad player.
Dude, did I say he was bad because he's white? The guy is a decent player. Averages about 10ppg. He dropped 30 on Spradling.
Stop being a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Yes, Sprads could have done better, but I don't think his performance against ISU means he isn't athletic enough for Big 12 competition at all.
I could see Will actually playing well if we were to play ISU in the Phillips 66Does he guard Pigboy Saturday?
:sdeek:
Why not, he did a great job in Stillwater.
Also, Frank called him out after the game for his defense against Christopherson.
Yes, Sprads could have done better, but I don't think his performance against ISU means he isn't athletic enough for Big 12 competition at all.
Have you ever seen Spradling turn the corner on a high ball screen and take it all the way to the rack? And not get swatted like a bitch? No. In fact, have you ever seen him take it all the way to the rack from anywhere on the floor and not get swatted like a bitch? No.
Have you ever seen him split a zone with dribble penetration? No.
Have you ever seen him do to another player what Christopherson did to him? No.
Have you ever seen him dribble 4 ft., pull the ball back and swing the ball around in the triple-threat position for 4 seconds until another player pops open for a pass? Yes. Seems like just about every possession of every conference game I've seen this year.
Like I said, he'd be great as a zone busting 3-pt specialist or as a reserve 2 guard. I'd like to see him play about 20 mpg and average about 7-8ppg.
He's averaging 14/game in conference play and dropped 25 on OU two games before ours. He's not some scrub - your perception is skewed because he's white.
I mean he played over 20 minutes/game and averaged 7ppg as a freshman in Big 12 games. It's stupid to think that is his ceiling.
He's averaging 14/game in conference play and dropped 25 on OU two games before ours. He's not some scrub - your perception is skewed because he's white.
False. My perception is reality. A guy averaging 10-14 ppg shouldn't score 30 points in a conference road game, whether he's black or white.
I mean he played over 20 minutes/game and averaged 7ppg as a freshman in Big 12 games. It's stupid to think that is his ceiling.
Why is that stupid? Is it a foregone conclusion that a player will get better every season?
Jamar's best season was his sophomore season. And then he plateaud.
It's stupid to think everyone will be like Jamar. players improve after their freshman year far more than they don't.
Excellent point. Except Sprads appears to fit squarely in that second category players who don't improve after their freshman year.
This thread should be less about how good/bad Doc is relative to no one or relative to KU players and more about Doc vs. Tay, since that is the decision Frank has to make when allocating minutes. Tay is clearly a better defender, and when Doc is in the midst of a "14 game slump", Tay is much better offensively. It really isn't that difficult unless you lend an enormous amount of weight to taking charges.
REad my earlier posts. I think I literally posted that I feel bad for Sprads that Frank has put him in this spot. I don't think Sprads is a bad player, I think he is a decent player who Frank wants to be very good. He isn't. Not wills fault. Franks fault.
There is a good role for Will on this team, but it involves about 10-15 mpg less.
Let's all call a spade a spade, though, and stop pretending like Sprads is a few FGs away from being just fine. Or that a few FGs will eliminate any concerns from the fanbase.
BTW, maybe Fran is right. Maybe these minutes are too much from a physical standpoint. Maybe Sprads is worn out and his D is suffering as a result.
according to the big 12 stats page, there are 19 players in the league that score more per game than christo. he leads the league in 3pt %.
i also think the talking point of the day, that spradling's poor play is related to playing too much, is equally Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). why the eff would he be more tired than anyone else?
try opining something you didn't hear the color guy say the night previous, dumbasses.
i also think the talking point of the day, that spradling's poor play is related to playing too much, is equally Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). why the eff would he be more tired than anyone else?
Otherwise I just can't explain why a guy who has shown to be a good shooter is shooting 28% for the league.
i also think the talking point of the day, that spradling's poor play is related to playing too much, is equally Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). why the eff would he be more tired than anyone else?
try opining something you didn't hear the color guy say the night previous, dumbasses.
Otherwise I just can't explain why a guy who has shown to be a good shooter is shooting 28% for the league.
he started shooting poorly about 2 months ago. was he tired then? why?
not being able to think of a more compelling hypothesis as the strongest argument for an explanatory hypothesis is very weak support.
He is playing more minutes than he has in his life.
He could be sick
He could be mentally fatigued
His fitness level may not be that of his peers
He may be playing hurt
my god.
my god.
Couldn't resist:
ksu_FAN ? @ksu_FAN
@curtiskitchen Why can't he watch and learn from Denom's or Dixon's game?
my god.
Couldn't resist:
ksu_FAN ? @ksu_FAN
@curtiskitchen Why can't he watch and learn from Denom's or Dixon's game?
He is playing more minutes than he has in his life.
He could be sick
He could be mentally fatigued
His fitness level may not be that of his peers
He may be playing hurt
hurt or sick isn't the same thing as tired or playing too many minutes. i forget if it was going into the season or over the summer, but not terribly long ago martin said that mcgruder and spradling were by far the best conditioned players on the team.
my god.
Couldn't resist:
ksu_FAN ? @ksu_FAN
@curtiskitchen Why can't he watch and learn from Denom's or Dixon's game?
:lol:
You're BITB when it comes to attacking media types. At least via conversation. Trim's the best in hand-to-hand attacks.
The chance that his problem is fatigue is slim, I've already said I think his problem is mechanical, but it is just pig headed to summarily dismiss fatigue when we're all just guessing.
The chance that his problem is fatigue is slim, I've already said I think his problem is mechanical, but it is just pig headed to summarily dismiss fatigue when we're all just guessing.
i'm not summarily dismissing fatigue as a remote possibility. i'm just lolling @ the idea that playing the white kid 35 a game obviously is going to cause him to play like crap.
especially when he started playing like crap about 12 games into the season.
Chances a story will come out in the off season about how Will was dealing with some sort of injury? > 75% imo.
Chances a story will come out in the off season about how Will was dealing with some sort of injury? > 75% imo.
Chances a story will come out in the off season about how Will was dealing with some sort of injury? > 75% imo.
Chances a story will come out in the off season about how Will was dealing with some sort of injury? > 75% imo.
Chances a story will come out in the off season about how Will was dealing with some sort of injury? > 75% imo.
Can some one HBBIQ please explain what Martavious is not doing or is doing that keeps his PT at such low levels vs. a vs. Sprads? TIA
Chances a story will come out in the off season about how Will was dealing with some sort of injury? > 75% imo.
Can some one HBBIQ please explain what Martavious is not doing or is doing that keeps his PT at such low levels vs. a vs. Sprads? TIA
Frank just went on record about this while talking to Soren Petro. He said he wants to have two guards on the floor who are as close to "point guard types" (Frank's words not mine, sys & rusty) and Will has a point guard mentality and Martavious has a scorers mentality. He used both of their names when discussing this talking point so you dont have to decipher what he meant.
This can be added to complaints about Frank thread.
I did like that Frank sat Will a good portion of the 1st half too.
Even in Frank's sound bite he said Tay is a greater threat to drive.
Chances a story will come out in the off season about how Will was dealing with some sort of injury? > 75% imo.
Can some one HBBIQ please explain what Martavious is not doing or is doing that keeps his PT at such low levels vs. a vs. Sprads? TIA
Frank just went on record about this while talking to Soren Petro. He said he wants to have two guards on the floor who are as close to "point guard types" (Frank's words not mine, sys & rusty) and Will has a point guard mentality and Martavious has a scorers mentality. He used both of their names when discussing this talking point so you dont have to decipher what he meant.
This can be added to complaints about Frank thread.
I've said that this was my theory. I understand it - I like to have as many guys that can handle the ball as possible on the court. Tay has been really good at offense, though. (NOTE: HIS DEFENSE HAS BEEN GARBAGE)
Early in the season, everyone was saying that Tay was our "best on-ball defender." What has changed? He has certainly knocked down shots when we absolutely had to have a score. Two years ago, I thought that he would be on the court for 30+ minutes a game at this point in his career.
steve dave, did you still want Spradler run off the team? :ohno:
steve dave, did you still want Spradler run off the team? :ohno:
steve dave, did you still want Spradler run off the team? :ohno:
pm plz
Ok so the players are taking a lap around the doom to shake hands with the fans. First in line Is HotRod who Trim gives an enthusiast hand slap/shake. Next in line is Will. Will extends his hand towards Trim and Trim withdraws his hand. Will steps up on the step I guess thinking Trim just does not see him or possibly can't reach. As this is happening Trim very obviously looks to see who is next in line in a gtfo type gesture. Will at this point withdraws his hand and his head slumps toward the floor. I not being the total heartless bastard begin to feel sorry for Sprads and shout out "Spads" and extend my hand. He then looks up from the floor and doubles back to receive my EMAW love.
Side note to all this is that EMAPE is very odd looking up close. He has an extremely tiny head.
Ok so the players are taking a lap around the doom to shake hands with the fans. First in line Is HotRod who Trim gives an enthusiast hand slap/shake. Next in line is Will. Will extends his hand towards Trim and Trim withdraws his hand. Will steps up on the step I guess thinking Trim just does not see him or possibly can't reach. As this is happening Trim very obviously looks to see who is next in line in a gtfo type gesture. Will at this point withdraws his hand and his head slumps toward the floor. I not being the total heartless bastard begin to feel sorry for Sprads and shout out "Spads" and extend my hand. He then looks up from the floor and doubles back to receive my EMAW love.
Side note to all this is that EMAPE is very odd looking up close. He has an extremely tiny head.
you should send him an apology letter
you should send him an apology letter
I'll buy him a drink at the banquet.
I think a vigorous waive of the Kansas flag would be more meaningful.you should send him an apology letter
I'll buy him a drink at the banquet.
you should send him an apology letter
I'll buy him a drink at the banquet.
diet coke (size small) in honor of fff
Ok so the players are taking a lap around the doom to shake hands with the fans. First in line Is HotRod who Trim gives an enthusiast hand slap/shake. Next in line is Will. Will extends his hand towards Trim and Trim withdraws his hand. Will steps up on the step I guess thinking Trim just does not see him or possibly can't reach. As this is happening Trim very obviously looks to see who is next in line in a gtfo type gesture. Will at this point withdraws his hand and his head slumps toward the floor. I not being the total heartless bastard begin to feel sorry for Sprads and shout out "Spads" and extend my hand. He then looks up from the floor and doubles back to receive my EMAW love.
Side note to all this is that EMAPE is very odd looking up close. He has an extremely tiny head.
I'm so proud. Great work. Great to be a Wildcat.
Making this even more ridiculous is Franks praise for Sprads after the game....of course Frank knows half of what Trim knows about basketball.
Goodness Gooch, I didn't think you'd do our dude like that. :nono:
Making this even more ridiculous is Franks praise for Sprads after the game....of course Frank knows half of what Trim knows about basketball.
Trim doesn't give out high fives unless he thinks the recipient is deserving I guess.
Trim doesn't give out high fives unless he thinks the recipient is deserving I guess.
I feel like this has something to do with me being pak out drunk the first time I saw you in Sprint Center.
Trim doesn't give out high fives unless he thinks the recipient is deserving I guess.
I feel like this has something to do with me being pak out drunk the first time I saw you in Sprint Center.
Hahaha, stop being sad about this C43. It was funny then, funnier now.
Trim doesn't give out high fives unless he thinks the recipient is deserving I guess.
I feel like this has something to do with me being pak out drunk the first time I saw you in Sprint Center.
Hahaha, stop being sad about this C43. It was funny then, funnier now.
Oh I'm not sad, I cherish that moment. J-Dub was all "who was that?" and I was all "Trim. He called me cancer lover and shoved me, kinda hard, I think he's seriously mad about that whole thread, he had this crazy look in his eye." J-Dub was :surprised:. Then we destroyed Gonzaga and everyone partied.
Mostly just confirming Trim's high five ethics, this Spradling incident is consistent with everything I know about him.
he had this crazy look in his eye.
Mostly just confirming Trim's high five ethics, this Spradling incident is consistent with everything I know about him.
might not remember
Was that at the bar that sold pizza, and there were girls who were Duke fans with us? I vaguely remember the first night at the CBE not because I was pak'd but because I had strep and didn't know it yet. :sdeek:
Man, paks are great. I actually pak'd with both CartierFor3 and j-dub last fall when I had to give CartierFor3 his BBBS raffle prize (which I naturally forgot to bring with me from the hotel bar to the falloon). They were both polite enough to not bring up our original meeting.
This interaction made me not hate Will as much. Because when he reacted to it, it's like he knows what's up. He's not cocky because racists love him.
Man, paks are great. I actually pak'd with both CartierFor3 and j-dub last fall when I had to give CartierFor3 his BBBS raffle prize (which I naturally forgot to bring with me from the hotel bar to the falloon). They were both polite enough to not bring up our original meeting.
:shy:
given your history of public PI'ing, I was kinda scared.. didn't want to log in and find my name changed to aidslover-dub and crap.
Ok so the players are taking a lap around the doom to shake hands with the fans. First in line Is HotRod who Trim gives an enthusiast hand slap/shake. Next in line is Will. Will extends his hand towards Trim and Trim withdraws his hand. Will steps up on the step I guess thinking Trim just does not see him or possibly can't reach. As this is happening Trim very obviously looks to see who is next in line in a gtfo type gesture. Will at this point withdraws his hand and his head slumps toward the floor. I not being the total heartless bastard begin to feel sorry for Sprads and shout out "Spads" and extend my hand. He then looks up from the floor and doubles back to receive my EMAW love.
Side note to all this is that EMAPE is very odd looking up close. He has an extremely tiny head.
I'm so proud. Great work. Great to be a Wildcat.
Making this even more ridiculous is Franks praise for Sprads after the game....of course Frank knows half of what Trim knows about basketball.
I would trade Havs and BigWillie20 for fuktard. I bet many agree with me.
This interaction made me not hate Will as much. Because when he reacted to it, it's like he knows what's up. He's not cocky because racists love him.
:lol:
This interaction made me not hate Will as much. Because when he reacted to it, it's like he knows what's up. He's not cocky because racists love him.
:lol:
i mean right.. my loathing has turned into pity.. now i'm rooting for the kid. :curse: dammit trim
This interaction made me not hate Will as much. Because when he reacted to it, it's like he knows what's up. He's not cocky because racists love him.
:lol:
i mean right.. my loathing has turned into pity.. now i'm rooting for the kid. :curse: dammit trim
MAYBE HE'LL BECOME AWESOME NOW!!! :drool:
I also met D Lew at the Gonzaga game. He asked who I was, I said "I might not be the most popular poster on the board" He goes "You're not jtksu are you?", I said "No, I'm CartierFor3" He says "Oh you're cool. I was worried you'd be jtksu."No offense to JTKSU intended.
I also met D Lew at the Gonzaga game. He asked who I was, I said "I might not be the most popular poster on the board" He goes "You're not jtksu are you?", I said "No, I'm CartierFor3" He says "Oh you're cool. I was worried you'd be jtksu."No offense to JTKSU intended.
This interaction made me not hate Will as much. Because when he reacted to it, it's like he knows what's up. He's not cocky because racists love him.
:lol:
i mean right.. my loathing has turned into pity.. now i'm rooting for the kid. :curse: dammit trim
MAYBE HE'LL BECOME AWESOME NOW!!! :drool:
:bball: my gosh could anything be better
cf3... i believe you may have pm'd ms. tobias last night :fatty:
... and that we might have all worked together at one point in mhk :cheers:
will is going to hit the game winning shot that sends us the final four
book it
will is going to hit the game winning shot that sends us the final four
book it
I could overlook the poor season shooting if this happens.
will is going to hit the game winning shot that sends us the final four
book it
I could overlook the poor season shooting if this happens.
It would be a great story...
will is going to hit the game winning shot that sends us the final four
book it
I could overlook the poor season shooting if this happens.
It would be a great story...
And then he snubbed Trim's high-five as he ran off the court.
Willtastic! :D
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Willtastic! :D:love:
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Then we lost to FloodAggie in the only game I was able to attend in Manhattan. Thanks a lot for bringing up this horrible memory for me _Fan.
Then we lost to FloodAggie in the only game I was able to attend in Manhattan. Thanks a lot for bringing up this horrible memory for me _Fan.
The game was painful, but the tunnel dance was not. JMHO.
Willtastic! :D
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Willtastic! :D
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VERY HIGH FIVE WORTHY IMOWilltastic! :D
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That was surprisingly good. :)
Willtastic! :D
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First Trim's high 5 snub, and now rewatching this.....
I dunno, I may be #teamsprads. That's assuming it's not mutually exclusive with #teamangel. Because I'd be #teamangel even if it was mutually exclusive with #teampullen. Just sayin'.
First Trim's high 5 snub, and now rewatching this.....
I dunno, I may be #teamsprads. That's assuming it's not mutually exclusive with #teamangel. Because I'd be #teamangel even if it was mutually exclusive with #teampullen. Just sayin'.
Keep in mind, my so-called snub was followed within 30 seconds by Angel hugging me and telling me I was "da man." Was it solely due to the PR flag? :ck:
Then we lost to FloodAggie in the only game I was able to attend in Manhattan. Thanks a lot for bringing up this horrible memory for me _Fan.
The game was painful, but the tunnel dance was not. JMHO.
Yeah, gmafb here CF3. Did you not enjoy Braveheart just bc William Spradling Wallace dies at the end? :dubious:
First Trim's high 5 snub, and now rewatching this.....
I dunno, I may be #teamsprads. That's assuming it's not mutually exclusive with #teamangel. Because I'd be #teamangel even if it was mutually exclusive with #teampullen. Just sayin'.
Willtastic! :D
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Awwwww that might be favorite so far!!!! EVERYONE IS INVOLVED!
I dare you to hate sprads after watching that. Because if you hate sprads after watching that, you're basically taking a giant dump on the adorable smiles and joy of the rest of our wonderful team.
I dare you to hate sprads after watching that. Because if you hate sprads after watching that, you're basically taking a giant dump on the adorable smiles and joy of the rest of our wonderful team.
I dare you to hate sprads after watching that. Because if you hate sprads after watching that, you're basically taking a giant dump on the adorable smiles and joy of the rest of our wonderful team.
Not great, but I like it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zGyRWvTDio
Sprads remix
Not great, but I like it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zGyRWvTDio
Sprads remix
Not great, but I like it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zGyRWvTDio
Sprads remix
Why do Nino and Omari always wear a different warm up shirt than the rest?
Spradler is going to light Syracuse up. then go 2-11 against Wisconsin.
Spradler is going to light Syracuse up. then go 0-11 against Wisconsin.
Heard from a guy I work with that is really connected to the KC basketball seen that a friend of his had talked to a big time KSU booster that told him that Spradling will be transfering after this season to either MIZZOU or Oregon. Also Trevor Releford will be transfering to KU. He was told not to tell anyone but you know how that is. I know that the friend of a friend and boyfriends cousin crap sucks but I am just relaying info that I was given. No source rating but was told that this guy was reliable. And just to make it clear "I AM JUST RELAYING INFO THAT I WAS GIVEN"
QuoteHeard from a guy I work with that is really connected to the KC basketball seen that a friend of his had talked to a big time KSU booster that told him that Spradling will be transfering after this season to either MIZZOU or Oregon. Also Trevor Releford will be transfering to KU. He was told not to tell anyone but you know how that is. I know that the friend of a friend and boyfriends cousin crap sucks but I am just relaying info that I was given. No source rating but was told that this guy was reliable. And just to make it clear "I AM JUST RELAYING INFO THAT I WAS GIVEN"
QuoteHeard from a guy I work with that is really connected to the KC basketball seen that a friend of his had talked to a big time KSU booster that told him that Spradling will be transfering after this season to either MIZZOU or Oregon. Also Trevor Releford will be transfering to KU. He was told not to tell anyone but you know how that is. I know that the friend of a friend and boyfriends cousin crap sucks but I am just relaying info that I was given. No source rating but was told that this guy was reliable. And just to make it clear "I AM JUST RELAYING INFO THAT I WAS GIVEN"
QuoteHeard from a guy I work with that is really connected to the KC basketball seen that a friend of his had talked to a big time KSU booster that told him that Spradling will be transfering after this season to either MIZZOU or Oregon. Also Trevor Releford will be transfering to KU. He was told not to tell anyone but you know how that is. I know that the friend of a friend and boyfriends cousin crap sucks but I am just relaying info that I was given. No source rating but was told that this guy was reliable. And just to make it clear "I AM JUST RELAYING INFO THAT I WAS GIVEN"
I can see why Dana Altman would take Will, but why would Mizzou want him?
QuoteHeard from a guy I work with that is really connected to the KC basketball seen that a friend of his had talked to a big time KSU booster that told him that Spradling will be transfering after this season to either MIZZOU or Oregon. Also Trevor Releford will be transfering to KU. He was told not to tell anyone but you know how that is. I know that the friend of a friend and boyfriends cousin crap sucks but I am just relaying info that I was given. No source rating but was told that this guy was reliable. And just to make it clear "I AM JUST RELAYING INFO THAT I WAS GIVEN"
I can see why Dana Altman would take Will, but why would Mizzou want him?
QuoteHeard from a guy I work with that is really connected to the KC basketball seen that a friend of his had talked to a big time KSU booster that told him that Spradling will be transfering after this season to either MIZZOU or Oregon. Also Trevor Releford will be transfering to KU. He was told not to tell anyone but you know how that is. I know that the friend of a friend and boyfriends cousin crap sucks but I am just relaying info that I was given. No source rating but was told that this guy was reliable. And just to make it clear "I AM JUST RELAYING INFO THAT I WAS GIVEN"
I can see why Dana Altman would take Will, but why would Mizzou want him?
Because Mizzou is losing a eff ton of players.
#teamwill is a bit of a lonely place, but I'm looking forward to him hitting some big shots the next few games.
we are going to rough ridin' destroy wisconsin and I'm getting kind of tired of everyone being FP's about them.Didn't say we would lose, am just of the belief that the ugly gingers for Wisconsin will intimidate Spradler and cause him to shoot poorly (or normally, I suppose)
I want Spradler run off the team, he's awful. I hate him.
I blame trim if spradling bolts
I don't want Spradling gone, I want him to become a better player, and be given a role suitable for his skill set. Every time he spots up to shoot, I say "let's go Will" or "c'mon Will" in an almost prayer like plea, in hopes it is the shot that gets him back on track. Sadly, it hasn't worked obviously.
You'd think we would be recruiting a pg/combo if it was true though
May the bridges you burn light your way <- easily my fav line that has come from this place.
May the bridges you burn light your way <- easily my fav line that has come from this place.
:dubious:
May the bridges you burn light your way <- easily my fav line that has come from this place.
:dubious:
Great work, both on the quote and the use of the quote function.
I dare you to hate sprads after watching that. Because if you hate sprads after watching that, you're basically taking a giant dump on the adorable smiles and joy of the rest of our wonderful team.
May the bridges you burn light your way
May the bridges you burn light your way
:love:
May the bridges you burn light your way
:love:
Not mine. I just didn't remember who to quote.
May the bridges you burn light your way
:love:
Not mine. I just didn't remember who to quote.
I'm very angry that I can't find the video at the moment, but you might want to get your Dylan McKay stats, STRAIGHT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edC6_9LC-Nc&t=42m18s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edC6_9LC-Nc&t=42m18s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edC6_9LC-Nc&t=42m18s
Did you know the episode and roughly what part of the episode that quote was in off the top of your head?
Will is a really good shooter and good at creating his own shot when he needs to. When he is open you know the ball is going in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edC6_9LC-Nc&t=42m18s
His confidence is just so far gone....he needs todrivequit.
Remember that assist he had in the second half? Well, that was the play of the game in my section. My pak'd attempt to start a "maybe don't shoot that clapclap clapclapclap" chant after his bricked 3 unfortunately failed to catch on.
No more spinning this Will is horrible. When he's on the floor we resemble a three legged bitch at The Westminster Dog Show. His air balled three and getting roasted 5 seconds later typified his season. He was an absolute nightmare. I am dumbfounded as how he is a starter for a top 25 program and his mokan teammate who killllllled that guy didn't get an high major offer.
FYFM for subjecting us to this garbage. I hope he leaves tonight.
He is going to get 25min + against Syrabuse so just accept it.
What I wouldn't do to tear him down and build him into this guy.
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What I wouldn't do to tear him down and build him into this guy.
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SMH. Get over it. What's his worth? "He takes care of the ball". eff the ball, I wanna rape bitches, and by bitches I mean future opponents in thee tournament of champions. Eff you will!What I wouldn't do to tear him down and build him into this guy.
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Or Christopherson.
No more spinning this Will is horrible. When he's on the floor we resemble a three legged bitch at The Westminster Dog Show. His air balled three and getting roasted 5 seconds later typified his season. He was an absolute nightmare. I am dumbfounded as how he is a starter for a top 25 program and his mokan teammate who killllllled that guy didn't get an high major offer.
FYFM for subjecting us to this garbage. I hope he leaves tonight.
Keitz had a good point tonight. He said Frank tears them down and builds them back up. Well, he probably tore him down, and he can't build him back up. He may be too far gone.
Today I thought, "I'm glad Trim didn't give him a high-five." So, that's where I'm at right now.
No more spinning this Will is horrible. When he's on the floor we resemble a three legged bitch at The Westminster Dog Show. His air balled three and getting roasted 5 seconds later typified his season. He was an absolute nightmare. I am dumbfounded as how he is a starter for a top 25 program and his mokan teammate who killllllled that guy didn't get an high major offer.
FYFM for subjecting us to this garbage. I hope he leaves tonight.
Keitz had a good point tonight. He said Frank tears them down and builds them back up. Well, he probably tore him down, and he can't build him back up. He may be too far gone.
that is actually a pretty rough ridin' stupid point.
No more spinning this Will is horrible. When he's on the floor we resemble a three legged bitch at The Westminster Dog Show. His air balled three and getting roasted 5 seconds later typified his season. He was an absolute nightmare. I am dumbfounded as how he is a starter for a top 25 program and his mokan teammate who killllllled that guy didn't get an high major offer.
FYFM for subjecting us to this garbage. I hope he leaves tonight.
Keitz had a good point tonight. He said Frank tears them down and builds them back up. Well, he probably tore him down, and he can't build him back up. He may be too far gone.
that is actually a pretty rough ridin' stupid point.
I disagree
Honest Question: Why does Frank love him more than the rest of his children?? He is wildly immune to the bench. I hate him with the fire of 1,000 suns. This is America - you can't just be a miserable person and assume I will respect you.
I love you,
America
Rest of the United States / America / Mrs Dave
Honest Question: Why does Frank love him more than the rest of his children?? He is wildly immune to the bench. I hate him with the fire of 1,000 suns. This is America - you can't just be a miserable person and assume I will respect you.Spradling also makes relatively few mistakes other than missing shots.
I love you,
America
Rest of the United States / America / Mrs Dave
If he is going to ever score he has to at least try to drive and hope for a foul. His outside shot is just gone. He has to get points from the line.
Good luck with all that. :lol:
http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2012/03/15/southern-miss-64-kansas-state-70/plus_minusWhy are there no stats for JO?
http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2012/03/15/southern-miss-64-kansas-state-70/plus_minusWhy are there no stats for JO?
Jamar :eek: :love:
Tay :frown:
http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2012/03/15/southern-miss-64-kansas-state-70/plus_minus
http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2012/03/15/southern-miss-64-kansas-state-70/plus_minus
The url says plus_minus. I'm sure you're not asking us to glean anything from plus minus, right?
http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2012/03/15/southern-miss-64-kansas-state-70/plus_minus
The url says plus_minus. I'm sure you're not asking us to glean anything from plus minus, right?
No, let's stick to anecdotes and feelings in this thread.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2012/03/15/southern-miss-64-kansas-state-70/plus_minus
The url says plus_minus. I'm sure you're not asking us to glean anything from plus minus, right?
No, let's stick to anecdotes and feelings in this thread.
If you're relegated to using the most useless stat in sports you've lost the argument. If anyone tried to use +/- to discredit one of your arguments you'd rightfully call them a moron. The fact that Will and Rodney had the same +/- and Jamar's was 10 points higher tells you all you need to know.
Will's +/- indicates that he plays a ton of minutes and all of those minutes happened to be along side a guy who scored 30 points. All of Will's other stats and the stats of his primary assignment indicate that he was an innocent bystander to his +9 rating.
I'm tempted to find a post of yours clowning +/- as I'm certain it exists somewhere.
Will's +/- indicates that he plays a ton of minutes and all of those minutes happened to be along side a guy who scored 30 points. All of Will's other stats and the stats of his primary assignment indicate that he was an innocent bystander to his +9 rating.
I'm tempted to find a post of yours clowning +/- as I'm certain it exists somewhere.
I don't disagree that he is an innocent bystander. My point is that being an innocent bystander makes him better than Martavious or Southwell.
Will's +/- indicates that he plays a ton of minutes and all of those minutes happened to be along side a guy who scored 30 points. All of Will's other stats and the stats of his primary assignment indicate that he was an innocent bystander to his +9 rating.
I'm tempted to find a post of yours clowning +/- as I'm certain it exists somewhere.
I don't disagree that he is an innocent bystander. My point is that being an innocent bystander makes him better than Martavious or Southwell.
Some times, absolutely; most of the time, perhaps; on Thursday, hell naw.
Weren't you just talking about stats to prove points instead of "anecdotes and feelings?" The stats say that Tay had more points and the same number of rebounds and assists as Will playing 24 less minutes.
Which is it Rusty?
Weren't you just talking about stats to prove points instead of "anecdotes and feelings?" The stats say that Tay had more points and the same number of rebounds and assists as Will playing 24 less minutes.
Which is it Rusty?
he also had more turnovers.
Weren't you just talking about stats to prove points instead of "anecdotes and feelings?" The stats say that Tay had more points and the same number of rebounds and assists as Will playing 24 less minutes.
Which is it Rusty?
he also had more turnovers.
:dubious:
Can we argue over Will's stat line when he barely registered one?
How can your entire stat line be 2 points, 1 assist, and 2 personal fouls in 37 minutes? How is that even possible?
Weren't you just talking about stats to prove points instead of "anecdotes and feelings?" The stats say that Tay had more points and the same number of rebounds and assists as Will playing 24 less minutes.
Which is it Rusty?
he also had more turnovers.
:dubious:
Can we argue over Will's stat line when he barely registered one?
How can your entire stat line be 2 points, 1 assist, and 2 personal fouls in 37 minutes? How is that even possible?
and zero rebounds! staggering really. But I guess anything is possible when you get yelled at so much you will no longer be able to make a basket ever again.
Weren't you just talking about stats to prove points instead of "anecdotes and feelings?" The stats say that Tay had more points and the same number of rebounds and assists as Will playing 24 less minutes.
Which is it Rusty?
he also had more turnovers.
:dubious:
Can we argue over Will's stat line when he barely registered one?
How can your entire stat line be 2 points, 1 assist, and 2 personal fouls in 37 minutes? How is that even possible?
and zero rebounds! staggering really. But I guess anything is possible when you get yelled at so much you will no longer be able to make a basket ever again.
Haggling about how or why he's scared is dumb. He's petrified right now, who cares if its because of Frank being mean or because he doesn't know how to handle being shitty?
Haggling about how or why he's scared is dumb. He's petrified right now, who cares if its because of Frank being mean or because he doesn't know how to handle being shitty?
thanks, discussion police. sheesh. :flush:
i'm not really sympathetic to any argument that results in irving getting more minutes. if spradling is incapable of playing, then the line of succession should skip a generation, like with prince charles and his kid, and go to directly to jones.
Weren't you just talking about stats to prove points instead of "anecdotes and feelings?" The stats say that Tay had more points and the same number of rebounds and assists as Will playing 24 less minutes.
Which is it Rusty?
he also had more turnovers.
:dubious:
Can we argue over Will's stat line when he barely registered one?
How can your entire stat line be 2 points, 1 assist, and 2 personal fouls in 37 minutes? How is that even possible?
and zero rebounds! staggering really. But I guess anything is possible when you get yelled at so much you will no longer be able to make a basket ever again.
i'm not really sympathetic to any argument that results in irving getting more minutes. if spradling is incapable of playing, then the line of succession should skip a generation, like with prince charles and his kid, and go to directly to jones.
I can live with that.
i'm not really sympathetic to any argument that results in irving getting more minutes. if spradling is incapable of playing, then the line of succession should skip a generation, like with prince charles and his kid, and go to directly to jones.
I can live with that.
i'm not really sympathetic to any argument that results in irving getting more minutes. if spradling is incapable of playing, then the line of succession should skip a generation, like with prince charles and his kid, and go to directly to jones.
I can live with that.
if dpete could've done whatever he needed to do to stick around and get minutes, then jesus huh? fifteen minutes a game for him this year would be fun, no? also, i wouldn't call for irving to get more minutes, but equal or close to will? sure. why not?
Can we make this a get rid of southwell thread too? Cause omg he looked horrible yesterday. Eff his hottness.
My original comment on the matter was agreeing with Keitz's assertion that Frank tears his players down and builds them back up. Yes, one of the components of that is yelling. But I'm sure there are other things he does as well. You're taking what I said, and you're twisting it into a more simplistic argument (i.e. Frank yells at Will, therefore his spirit is broken.) than what I'm asserting to try and prove that anyone wanting Will benched is wrong.
Will was not ready for the responsibility that was given to him. Frank responded to that by giving him more responsibility. That failed.
The S. Miss game was an embarrassment. MIR is absolutely, 110% right in everything he's said tonight. All I'm saying is that I believe Will is where he is now because Frank pushed his buttons trying to get an end result, whatever method that is on whatever given day, it's not working, and to go a step farther, he's playing worse now than he has all season because Frank keeps trotting him out on the court expecting...I have no idea what he's expecting at this point.
I understand that Shane and Tay may turn the ball over more than Will most nights, but at least they're willing to TRY making something happen. And why Frank is completely ignoring Jones is maddening.
Well eff MIR, I didn't fly this far to watch him hand the ball to the wrong team. I'm not out of line here.Can we make this a get rid of southwell thread too? Cause omg he looked horrible yesterday. Eff his hottness.
Terrible post, please move to fanning stuff :curse:
i'm not really sympathetic to any argument that results in irving getting more minutes. if spradling is incapable of playing, then the line of succession should skip a generation, like with prince charles and his kid, and go to directly to jones.
I can live with that.
if dpete could've done whatever he needed to do to stick around and get minutes, then jesus huh? fifteen minutes a game for him this year would be fun, no? also, i wouldn't call for irving to get more minutes, but equal or close to will? sure. why not?
i'm not really sympathetic to any argument that results in irving getting more minutes. if spradling is incapable of playing, then the line of succession should skip a generation, like with prince charles and his kid, and go to directly to jones.
I can live with that.
if dpete could've done whatever he needed to do to stick around and get minutes, then jesus huh? fifteen minutes a game for him this year would be fun, no? also, i wouldn't call for irving to get more minutes, but equal or close to will? sure. why not?
heck, jeuvol could have helped. I kind of addressed your second question in my last post. With 3 decent offensive weapons on the court, defense and lack of mistakes may be more important than another offensive weapon. You never see Will on the court without Angel or Tay and Tay on the court without Will or Angel. Not sure if that means anything but it's getting kind of late so whatever.
For a kid with shot nerves that's a lot to ask.
I don't want to be lumped into the group of people who don't like Will because he hasn't had a Brady Heslip like game. I'm pissed because we have to have an entire position on the floor who must play a low risk-low reward role. He's the LuCo of this team if LuCo was a fragile infant.
I see your frustration, but if Will did nothing more than he does now except shot 35% from 3 and hit a runner or 2 a game, I think it's a fine role to have. And since Will isn't THAT far from that, Frank just rolls with it 35 minutes a game.
For a kid with shot nerves that's a lot to ask.
Zomg will's broken forever! :runaway:
I don't want to be lumped into the group of people who don't like Will because he hasn't had a Brady Heslip like game. I'm pissed because we have to have an entire position on the floor who must play a low risk-low reward role. He's the LuCo of this team if LuCo was a fragile infant.
I don't want it to seem like I'm demanding Scott Christopherson or Heslip, either. And if Angel is going to take the bulk of the scoring from the guard position going forward, great. So be it.
But you can't have a combo guard out on the floor for 30+ minutes that can't shoot, can't dribble penetrate, can't throw basic entry passes, can't lead a break, and plays average defense. Ten or fifteen minutes when you're trying to slow a game down and/or protect a lead? Cool. Have guys in foul trouble? Cool. It's good to have a guy in the bullpen that's not going to throw the ball to the other team all of the time.
We just need to be looking at other alternatives. That's all.
Minutes. Too many minutes. That's it.
I had an eerie premonition that Doc is going to totally redeem himself today.
:love:
I had an eerie premonition that Doc is going to totally redeem himself today.
:love:
This is the wrong game to be bumping this thread.
yeah, that was will's best game in a long time. If he can consistently play like that I don't think many people would have a problem with his minutes.
we all lost today panj. :frown:
That was exactly what we want from William.
His love of Jamar and his post game tweeting was All-American like. His support of Jam gives him a lifetime pass & he would have earned it even if he sucked on the court today which of course he didn't.
That was exactly what we want from William.
His love of Jamar and his post game tweeting was All-American like. His support of Jam gives him a lifetime pass & he would have earned it even if he sucked on the court today which of course he didn't.
and not attempts, Will, that's makes.
An itk confirmed family unhappy rumor fwiw
An itk confirmed family unhappy rumor fwiw
About? Not PT, that's for sure.
Heard rumor that Wichita station believes Gipson might transfer to?
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Heard rumor that Wichita station believes Gipson might transfer to?
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Heard rumor that Wichita station believes Gipson might transfer to?
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he had a poorly worded tweet
Heard rumor that Wichita station believes Gipson might transfer to?
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he had a poorly worded tweet
Heard rumor that Wichita station believes Gipson might transfer to?
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he had a poorly worded tweet
Maybe even a look of "Maybe the kid should make a effing shot and stop bitching look".
she gave me a :dubious: look. Don't want to read too much into it, but it was almost like a "no comment" look. Maybe even a look of "Maybe the kid should make a effing shot and stop bitching look".
Heard rumor that Wichita station believes Gipson might transfer to?
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he had a poorly worded tweet
Yeah, but I heard 1330 said something about it today. I don't know anything about wichita radio and if that station is a good source. Apparently they said something about Will transferring also. This is all second hand info.
:thumbs:Maybe even a look of "Maybe the kid should make a effing shot and stop bitching look".
I'd like for your next daily doodle to be of what this looks like.
Oh, man. Could you imagine?she gave me a :dubious: look. Don't want to read too much into it, but it was almost like a "no comment" look. Maybe even a look of "Maybe the kid should make a effing shot and stop bitching look".
probably, an "i'm a filly, why isn't this guy trying to sex me up yet" look.
Well looks like Trim did more damage to Will than we originally thought. I just got a message from a buddy who works at K-State, saying that Spradling is definitely leaving the team. This guy is not a big sports fan, so I'm pretty confident he's getting solid info and not from some Wichita radio station. I hope Tay starts working on his ball handling.
:sdeek:Well looks like Trim did more damage to Will than we originally thought. I just got a message from a buddy who works at K-State, saying that Spradling is definitely leaving the team. This guy is not a big sports fan, so I'm pretty confident he's getting solid info and not from some Wichita radio station. I hope Tay starts working on his ball handling.
I've heard rumblings that it's NOT Trim-related. But if he's replaced by a stud 2-guard, I'll take credit.
she gave me a :dubious: look. Don't want to read too much into it, but it was almost like a "no comment" look. Maybe even a look of "Maybe the kid should make a effing shot and stop bitching look".
probably, an "i'm a filly, why isn't this guy trying to sex me up yet" look.
Spradling leaving may be the only real reason to bbs this offseason.
OMG, yes, that was it. I'll doodle it and tweet it out asap.she gave me a :dubious: look. Don't want to read too much into it, but it was almost like a "no comment" look. Maybe even a look of "Maybe the kid should make a effing shot and stop bitching look".
probably, an "i'm a filly, why isn't this guy trying to sex me up yet" look.
yeah, i bet it was really more like: (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.msdn.com%2Fblogfiles%2Fitasupport%2FWindowsLiveWriter%2F72049774b065_DC4B%2FwlEmoticon-sarcastic_2.png&hash=97e25fcd4872406ef03b8b7c1fd055d1ce0110b9)
Spradling leaving may be the only real reason to bbs this offseason.
LOL, no.
Spradling leaving may be the only real reason to bbs this offseason.
LOL, no.
I honestly can't wait for some details. Intrigued for several reasons:
1. why? his choice or Franked
2. who wants him
3. why?
Spradling leaving may be the only real reason to bbs this offseason.
LOL, no.
I honestly can't wait for some details. Intrigued for several reasons:
1. why? his choice or Franked
2. who wants him
3. why?
Sure, but I meant milquetoast (T-Y JW) will hardly be the only thing to bbs about. Every single year, April hits and we wonder what there'll be tla talk about and every year some drama erupts. This year won't be any different. Bank it.
Well looks like Trim did more damage to Will than we originally thought. I just got a message from a buddy who works at K-State, saying that Spradling is definitely leaving the team. This guy is not a big sports fan, so I'm pretty confident he's getting solid info and not from some Wichita radio station. I hope Tay starts working on his ball handling.
Well looks like Trim did more damage to Will than we originally thought. I just got a message from a buddy who works at K-State, saying that Spradling is definitely leaving the team. This guy is not a big sports fan, so I'm pretty confident he's getting solid info and not from some Wichita radio station. I hope Tay starts working on his ball handling.
not Trim related fwiw
Well looks like Trim did more damage to Will than we originally thought. I just got a message from a buddy who works at K-State, saying that Spradling is definitely leaving the team. This guy is not a big sports fan, so I'm pretty confident he's getting solid info and not from some Wichita radio station. I hope Tay starts working on his ball handling.
not Trim related fwiw
it could be steve dave related though. we've got a thirty page thread on here titled "i want spradler run off the team". way to go bad person. i really do wish he wasn't leaving.
Frank trusts Will. Will trusts Frank (maybe). MAYBE WILL KNOWS FRANK IS LEAVING AND IS TRANSFERRING TO FOLLOW FRANK
eff
Well looks like Trim did more damage to Will than we originally thought. I just got a message from a buddy who works at K-State, saying that Spradling is definitely leaving the team. This guy is not a big sports fan, so I'm pretty confident he's getting solid info and not from some Wichita radio station. I hope Tay starts working on his ball handling.
not Trim related fwiw
it could be steve dave related though. we've got a thirty page thread on here titled "i want spradler run off the team". way to go bad person. i really do wish he wasn't leaving.
His dad won't let him leave. :comehere:
Well looks like Trim did more damage to Will than we originally thought. I just got a message from a buddy who works at K-State, saying that Spradling is definitely leaving the team. This guy is not a big sports fan, so I'm pretty confident he's getting solid info and not from some Wichita radio station. I hope Tay starts working on his ball handling.
not Trim related fwiw
it could be steve dave related though. we've got a thirty page thread on here titled "i want spradler run off the team". way to go bad person. i really do wish he wasn't leaving.
I don't think he's leaving. He's pouting right now. His dad won't let him leave. :comehere:
This doesn't make sense to me. He gets more playing time at kstate than he would anywhere else. Even if he shouldn't. Rumors are lame...remember when someone overheard some non-basketball fan\Grade A source say McGruder was leaving last year?
Well looks like Trim did more damage to Will than we originally thought. I just got a message from a buddy who works at K-State, saying that Spradling is definitely leaving the team. This guy is not a big sports fan, so I'm pretty confident he's getting solid info and not from some Wichita radio station. I hope Tay starts working on his ball handling.
not Trim related fwiw
it could be steve dave related though. we've got a thirty page thread on here titled "i want spradler run off the team". way to go bad person. i really do wish he wasn't leaving.
I wish he wasn't either.
Well looks like Trim did more damage to Will than we originally thought. I just got a message from a buddy who works at K-State, saying that Spradling is definitely leaving the team. This guy is not a big sports fan, so I'm pretty confident he's getting solid info and not from some Wichita radio station. I hope Tay starts working on his ball handling.
not Trim related fwiw
it could be steve dave related though. we've got a thirty page thread on here titled "i want spradler run off the team". way to go bad person. i really do wish he wasn't leaving.
I don't think he's leaving. He's pouting right now. His dad won't let him leave. :comehere:
That's an interesting scoop but unfortunately my insidery sources around JOCO would disagree with you
Well looks like Trim did more damage to Will than we originally thought. I just got a message from a buddy who works at K-State, saying that Spradling is definitely leaving the team. This guy is not a big sports fan, so I'm pretty confident he's getting solid info and not from some Wichita radio station. I hope Tay starts working on his ball handling.
not Trim related fwiw
Frank trusts Will. Will trusts Frank (maybe). MAYBE WILL KNOWS FRANK IS LEAVING AND IS TRANSFERRING TO FOLLOW FRANK
eff
No on all three unfortunately
Who wants to put a pot together on where he ends up? Missouri and Oregon are the rumors. I'd like to add: Creighton and Wichita state if he wants to stay close to home.
Not concerned about how team next year if Spradling leaves. I am concerned about what our old, racist, GPC-lovin' fanbase will think of Frank running of the only white player on our team.
Not concerned about how team next year if Spradling leaves. I am concerned about what our old, racist, GPC-lovin' fanbase will think of Frank running of the only white player on our team.
angel got will fired
angel got will fired
Not concerned about how team next year if Spradling leaves. I am concerned about what our old, racist, GPC-lovin' fanbase will think of Frank running of the only white player on our team.
The meltdown from the Tucks is going to be epic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV1XWJN3nJo&ob=av2n (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV1XWJN3nJo&ob=av2n)(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi37.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe62%2FSKADOOTER%2Forgazmo.jpg&hash=21cb148f80e1c0099a85aa0266295646b5ce54d0)
:ck:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV1XWJN3nJo&ob=av2n (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV1XWJN3nJo&ob=av2n)(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi37.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe62%2FSKADOOTER%2Forgazmo.jpg&hash=21cb148f80e1c0099a85aa0266295646b5ce54d0)
:ck:
I don't mean to sound like a queer or nothin, but I let that play.
Not concerned about how team next year if Spradling leaves. I am concerned about what our old, racist, GPC-lovin' fanbase will think of Frank running of the only white player on our team.
The meltdown from the Tucks is going to be epic.
Will returns next year. If not, I'll go BigWillie and delete my account. :ksu:
Not concerned about how team next year if Spradling leaves. I am concerned about what our old, racist, GPC-lovin' fanbase will think of Frank running of the only white player on our team.
The meltdown from the Tucks is going to be epic.
Will returns next year. If not, I'll go BigWillie and delete my account. :ksu:
well....it's been nice knowing you jkeys or whatever
Not concerned about how team next year if Spradling leaves. I am concerned about what our old, racist, GPC-lovin' fanbase will think of Frank running of the only white player on our team.
The meltdown from the Tucks is going to be epic.
Will returns next year. If not, I'll go BigWillie and delete my account. :ksu:
well....it's been nice knowing you jkeys or whatever
Frank leaves, Will stays.
yeah, but nobody wants frank
yeah, but nobody wants frank
I do :dunno:
yeah, but nobody wants frank
I do :dunno:
nobody that has a high major basketball team wants frank. he's out there right now begging for work. everyone's mushed him.
Not concerned about how team next year if Spradling leaves. I am concerned about what our old, racist, GPC-lovin' fanbase will think of Frank running of the only white player on our team.
The meltdown from the Tucks is going to be epic.
Will returns next year. If not, I'll go BigWillie and delete my account. :ksu:
well....it's been nice knowing you jkeys or whatever
Not concerned about how team next year if Spradling leaves. I am concerned about what our old, racist, GPC-lovin' fanbase will think of Frank running of the only white player on our team.
The meltdown from the Tucks is going to be epic.
Will returns next year. If not, I'll go BigWillie and delete my account. :ksu:
well....it's been nice knowing you jkeys or whatever
Will you self-ban for a 30 day period if he stays???
Not concerned about how team next year if Spradling leaves. I am concerned about what our old, racist, GPC-lovin' fanbase will think of Frank running of the only white player on our team.
The meltdown from the Tucks is going to be epic.
Will returns next year. If not, I'll go BigWillie and delete my account. :ksu:
well....it's been nice knowing you jkeys or whatever
Will you self-ban for a 30 day period if he stays???
You don't want this, you saw what it was like while he was on vacation
Not concerned about how team next year if Spradling leaves. I am concerned about what our old, racist, GPC-lovin' fanbase will think of Frank running of the only white player on our team.
The meltdown from the Tucks is going to be epic.
Will returns next year. If not, I'll go BigWillie and delete my account. :ksu:
well....it's been nice knowing you jkeys or whatever
http://curtiskitchen.com/will-spradling-to-transfer-from-k-state/Future roster changes .....sooner rather than later...
Another successful goEMAW campaign!
Will, did you see the part where oscar Pearl led SKYLAR rough ridin' MACBEE to the Elite Eight? Yeah. you might want to slow your role there, bub. :gocho:
Maybe we are just making room to deal with the scholarship reduction we are going to face when we hire Pearl.
Nino joins within the next few days?oh ya, join the Shitty train.
Will_I_AM_55: I have not been released from k state that is not true
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Will Spradling's father just told me Will has not asked for a release from Kansas State.
Kitchen is such a crap show :lol:
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Will Spradling's father just told me Will has not asked for a release from Kansas State.
:sdeek:
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It's also should be noted that Spradling's father, in turn, asked if Frank Martin was leaving. What a weird, weird evening.
:lol:
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It's also should be noted that Spradling's father, in turn, asked if Frank Martin was leaving. What a weird, weird evening.
:lol:
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Sources saying Kansas State's Brian Krueger will not be with the team next year.
Retweeted by Jamar Samuels
:lol:
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It's also should be noted that Spradling's father, in turn, asked if Frank Martin was leaving. What a weird, weird evening.
:lol:
Well if you're looking for signs of hope, here's one, for now. We definitely won't be hearing Randy Edsall type stories about Frank dipping out without telling his players, I'm certain.
Brian Krueger ? @b_krueg
Sources saying Kansas State's Brian Krueger will not be with the team next year.
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:lol:
Brian Krueger ? @b_krueg
Sources saying Kansas State's Brian Krueger will not be with the team next year.
Retweeted by Jamar Samuels
:lol:
Who the hell????
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It's also should be noted that Spradling's father, in turn, asked if Frank Martin was leaving. What a weird, weird evening.
:lol:
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It's also should be noted that Spradling's father, in turn, asked if Frank Martin was leaving. What a weird, weird evening.
:lol:
This board is so rough ridin' stupid sometimes. Will isn't leaving. Frank might be. Damn you Currie.
And f off to the "I like to pretend I'm ITK crowd". Laughable.
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It's also should be noted that Spradling's father, in turn, asked if Frank Martin was leaving. What a weird, weird evening.
:lol:
This board is so rough ridin' stupid sometimes. Will isn't leaving. Frank might be. Damn you Currie.
And f off to the "I like to pretend I'm ITK crowd". Laughable.
The first part of your statement makes the second part funny.
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It's also should be noted that Spradling's father, in turn, asked if Frank Martin was leaving. What a weird, weird evening.
:lol:
This board is so rough ridin' stupid sometimes. Will isn't leaving. Frank might be. Damn you Currie.
And f off to the "I like to pretend I'm ITK crowd". Laughable.
Rob Cassidy ? @robcassidy22
It's also should be noted that Spradling's father, in turn, asked if Frank Martin was leaving. What a weird, weird evening.
:lol:
This board is so rough ridin' stupid sometimes. Will isn't leaving. Frank might be. Damn you Currie.
And f off to the "I like to pretend I'm ITK crowd". Laughable.
how about I promise you that at least one of them leaves.
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It's also should be noted that Spradling's father, in turn, asked if Frank Martin was leaving. What a weird, weird evening.
:lol:
This board is so rough ridin' stupid sometimes. Will isn't leaving. Frank might be. Damn you Currie.
And f off to the "I like to pretend I'm ITK crowd". Laughable.
how about I promise you that at least one of them leaves.
Promise me it's Will and I may call you a liar. :runaway: I don't have any insight into Frank...really hope he stays though.
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It's also should be noted that Spradling's father, in turn, asked if Frank Martin was leaving. What a weird, weird evening.
:lol:
This board is so rough ridin' stupid sometimes. Will isn't leaving. Frank might be. Damn you Currie.
And f off to the "I like to pretend I'm ITK crowd". Laughable.
how about I promise you that at least one of them leaves.
Promise me it's Will and I may call you a liar. :runaway: I don't have any insight into Frank...really hope he stays though.
I'll just promise you that both won't be at kstate next year and let you figure out the rest.
Curtis fitztchen amirite?
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It's also should be noted that Spradling's father, in turn, asked if Frank Martin was leaving. What a weird, weird evening.
:lol:
This board is so rough ridin' stupid sometimes. Will isn't leaving. Frank might be. Damn you Currie.
And f off to the "I like to pretend I'm ITK crowd". Laughable.
how about I promise you that at least one of them leaves.
Promise me it's Will and I may call you a liar. :runaway: I don't have any insight into Frank...really hope he stays though.
I'll just promise you that both won't be at kstate next year and let you figure out the rest.
Goddamit...we can't ever have anything nice.
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Sources saying Kansas State's Brian Krueger will not be with the team next year.
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Who the hell????
I think he's one of the senior basketball managers, fwiw.
Brian Krueger ? @b_krueg
Sources saying Kansas State's Brian Krueger will not be with the team next year.
Retweeted by Jamar Samuels
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Who the hell????
I think he's one of the senior basketball managers, fwiw.
He is.
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I have not been released from k state that is not true
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I have not been released from k state that is not true
:lol: @ kitchen
Source: Will Spradling has been granted release from K-State; more to come. #kstate #big12 t.co/dUfxC2nC
ya definitely more transfers to comelol
kitchen again:QuoteSource: Will Spradling has been granted release from K-State; more to come. #kstate #big12 t.co/dUfxC2nC
kitchen again:QuoteSource: Will Spradling has been granted release from K-State; more to come. #kstate #big12 t.co/dUfxC2nC
That's his tweet from March 23rd still. He hasn't tweeted in the past 2 hours.
Well, less of a chance Will transfers now! :excited:
Horrific at pretty much everything besides free throwsand set, uncontested 3's.
Well, less of a chance Will transfers now! :excited:
Well, less of a chance Will transfers now! :excited:
oh steve
BTW did Will kill himself last night? :pray:
Well, less of a chance Will transfers now! :excited:
oh steve
lol at you having no idea :lol:
great bump. sprads sitting in favor of a true frosh who was gonna go to george washington. what a ball club.
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As you can see from my post count I am a long time lurker but you made a statement in the thread Spradling doesn't seem like himself that I felt compelled to respond to. You stated he should have gone to Washburn where he could have had a solid career. What on earth is your definition of a solid career? Will has started 73 games and logged over 2700 minutes of court time going into this year on some of K-States most successful teams. As a former player on a Big 8 League Champion and Elite 8 team I can assure you 80 to 90 percent of the players that have ever donned a KSU jersey would have loved to have the career that Will has. Superstar no, limitations yes, solid career absolutely.
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dcat's fanningbrag was at least pertinent and naturally flowed with the story, though
:curse:dcat's fanningbrag was at least pertinent and naturally flowed with the story, though
you've been really cocky since fattyfest
:curse:dcat's fanningbrag was at least pertinent and naturally flowed with the story, though
you've been really cocky since fattyfest
Me too, bud. :D:curse:dcat's fanningbrag was at least pertinent and naturally flowed with the story, though
you've been really cocky since fattyfest
just joshing with ya real life bud.
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As a 2. moving without the ball. high assist:TO. like since he got here.
He does all the thing that don't show up on a stat sheet:
Move without the ball.
Excellent help Defense
Take charges (although this will decrease with the new foul rules)
Direct the offense.
And a few that do: assist, turnovers, make free throws. Don't believe me go back and watch nearly any KState game Coach Knight has called since Spradlings Fresh year. He loves Spradling. Oh yeah and he knows a thing or 2 about BB only the second most wins in NCAA and coaches the man that passed him fir most all timem
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I never expected Sprads to be good, but it's really his complete lack of improvement throughout his career that has made me dislike him.
I never expected Sprads to be good, but it's really his complete lack of improvement throughout his career that has made me dislike him.
It's really pretty simple. He's not good at shooting the ball through the basket hoop.
I never expected Sprads to be good, but it's really his complete lack of improvement throughout his career that has made me dislike him.
It's really pretty simple. He's not good at shooting the ball through the basket hoop.
or dribbling
tough to win with such a sh*tty guard playing 35+ minutes (spradling)
I never expected Sprads to be good, but it's really his complete lack of improvement throughout his career that has made me dislike him.
It's really pretty simple. He's not good at shooting the ball through the basket hoop.
or dribbling
Those intangibles, though.
Can't pass, dribble, shoot, guard. New rules are going to take away his charge spree too.
"What exactly, would you say, it is that you do around here?"
Those intangibles, though.
Can't pass, dribble, shoot, guard. New rules are going to take away his charge spree too.
"What exactly, would you say, it is that you do around here?"
Take charges, make technical free throws
He's not very good at talking like a boy.
Honestly, if I was starting a Rec league team, I wouldn't choose Will....
Watch out for headbutts to the stomachHonestly, if I was starting a Rec league team, I wouldn't choose Will....
And if he was on the opposing team, I would choose to guard him.
Will has the quickest step away from the basket in college basketball.
I actually liked his layup right before halftime and wish he tried to do things like that more often.
Will has the quickest step away from the basket in college basketball.
I actually liked his layup right before halftime and wish he tried to do things like that more often.
Maybe, but it could just be really memorable when he does is successfully. http://www.hoop-math.com/KansasSt.2014.php
Will has the quickest step away from the basket in college basketball.
I actually liked his layup right before halftime and wish he tried to do things like that more often.
Maybe, but it could just be really memorable when he does is successfully. http://www.hoop-math.com/KansasSt.2014.php
To be fair, he's probably 1-3 at the rim for his career.