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Title: People keep comparing us to last year's Texas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 13, 2011, 06:42:48 PM
I think 08-09 Baylor might be the better comparison. :flush:
Title: Re: People keep comparing us to last year's Texas
Post by: J.EMAW33 on January 13, 2011, 06:44:10 PM
At least Texas made the tournament last year.  :flush:
Title: Re: People keep comparing us to last year's Texas
Post by: EMAWmeister on January 13, 2011, 07:14:16 PM
We're last years OU.
Title: Re: People keep comparing us to last year's Texas
Post by: kyles on January 13, 2011, 07:27:51 PM
Ouch guys. Keep your chins up. You could be the yearly Michigan State. Frank Martin could be just an angrier Tom Izzo. I predict nothing short of another Elite Eight for your wildcats this year.
Title: Re: People keep comparing us to last year's Texas
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 13, 2011, 07:30:12 PM
Texas had NBA talent. We don't.
Title: Re: People keep comparing us to last year's Texas
Post by: doom on January 13, 2011, 07:51:13 PM
I think 08-09 Baylor might be the better comparison. :flush:

So we'll beat KU in the conference tourney?!?  I'll rough ridin' take it!
Title: Re: People keep comparing us to last year's Texas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 13, 2011, 09:25:40 PM
The conference tourney win over KU would be nice, but I would much rather make it to the tournament.
Title: Re: People keep comparing us to last year's Texas
Post by: nicname on January 13, 2011, 11:24:48 PM
http://statsheet.com/mcb/rankings/motion/AP?season=2003-2004

Missouri.
Title: Re: People keep comparing us to last year's Texas
Post by: Havs on January 14, 2011, 12:19:02 AM
I'll give you guys something to be optimistic about. (with of course, an ISU comparison)

ISU was 14-14 heading into a stretch that included @ Kansas, Texas, and @TAMU back in 2005 after a horrible beginning to the Big 12 season. Wayne Morgan pulled off those 3 games mentioned plus one more and finished 18-14, with a high enough RPI to make the NCAA tournament. We eventually lost to the National Champion North Carolina Tarheels, but that sounds a lot better than where we expected earlier in the season.
Title: Re: People keep comparing us to last year's Texas
Post by: kso_FAN on January 14, 2011, 08:27:09 AM
I'll give you guys something to be optimistic about. (with of course, an ISU comparison)

ISU was 14-14 heading into a stretch that included @ Kansas, Texas, and @TAMU back in 2005 after a horrible beginning to the Big 12 season. Wayne Morgan pulled off those 3 games mentioned plus one more and finished 18-14, with a high enough RPI to make the NCAA tournament. We eventually lost to the National Champion North Carolina Tarheels, but that sounds a lot better than where we expected earlier in the season.

Fond memories of this one: http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2005/01/26/iowa-state-51-kansas-state-63
Title: Re: People keep comparing us to last year's Texas
Post by: Havs on January 14, 2011, 04:31:23 PM
I'll give you guys something to be optimistic about. (with of course, an ISU comparison)

ISU was 14-14 heading into a stretch that included @ Kansas, Texas, and @TAMU back in 2005 after a horrible beginning to the Big 12 season. Wayne Morgan pulled off those 3 games mentioned plus one more and finished 18-14, with a high enough RPI to make the NCAA tournament. We eventually lost to the National Champion North Carolina Tarheels, but that sounds a lot better than where we expected earlier in the season.

Fond memories of this one: http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2005/01/26/iowa-state-51-kansas-state-63

I'm glad Hilton Attendance has never been this bad...

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Wed, Jan 26, 2005
7:00PM ET

Bramlage Coliseum
Manhattan, KS
Attendance: 6,713
Title: Re: People keep comparing us to last year's Texas
Post by: Andy on January 14, 2011, 07:36:09 PM
Ouch guys. Keep your chins up. You could be the yearly Michigan State. Frank Martin could be just an angrier Tom Izzo. I predict nothing short of another Elite Eight for your wildcats this year.

i keep hoping we are somehow mich st.  theres a lot of fair comparisons that could be made like style of play and struggling early only to peak late, but then you look at recruiting and thats where the comparisons end.
Title: Re: People keep comparing us to last year's Texas
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 15, 2011, 01:42:41 AM
Ouch guys. Keep your chins up. You could be the yearly Michigan State. Frank Martin could be just an angrier Tom Izzo. I predict nothing short of another Elite Eight for your wildcats this year.

i keep hoping we are somehow mich st.  theres a lot of fair comparisons that could be made like style of play and struggling early only to peak late, but then you look at recruiting and thats where the comparisons end.

You can look at recruiting all you want, but the average star rating of the players on this team is no worse than it was on last year's elite 8 team. We returned so many players with significant minutes that there is absolutely no reason for the team to have played this poorly to date.
Title: Re: People keep comparing us to last year's Texas
Post by: Andy on January 16, 2011, 03:10:21 PM
Ouch guys. Keep your chins up. You could be the yearly Michigan State. Frank Martin could be just an angrier Tom Izzo. I predict nothing short of another Elite Eight for your wildcats this year.

i keep hoping we are somehow mich st.  theres a lot of fair comparisons that could be made like style of play and struggling early only to peak late, but then you look at recruiting and thats where the comparisons end.

You can look at recruiting all you want, but the average star rating of the players on this team is no worse than it was on last year's elite 8 team. We returned so many players with significant minutes that there is absolutely no reason for the team to have played this poorly to date.

depends whether you think last year was a fluke or the way things will remain.  i contend that unless we recruit like mich st, we won't be consistently great every year like mich st.