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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: Pete on January 11, 2011, 04:20:22 PM
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Need to get a consensus.
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Let's write an acidic "FIRE SNYDER" on the field prior to the spring game.o
Whatever can be done the quickest.
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BILLBOARD NOW GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO
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what does a plane banner cost?
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what does a plane banner cost?
Guess we should ask the Texas fans how much theirs cost :ck:
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For the record, I am in favor of "RETIRE BILL."
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what does a plane banner cost?
We had it priced out for Ron at around $2500, IIRC. Same guy who did the "Fire Gibbs" banner for OU...he's out of Florida. Flies all over doing stuff like this.
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Can you find a contractor that can provide 3 or so of those under the same contract? Maybe get a bulk rate?
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Also, need to get sneaky with this. Make the Phoggies think that Snyder leaving would be good for them....maybe they kick in? :dunno:
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A billboard would be seen by way more people than a banner at the spring game.
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Billboard is the easier option, because of contingencies for weather and what not. Plus, the banner can only be flow an hour prior to kickoff or an hour after kickoff due to FAA rules and crap.
If there is a media buyer on the board that wants to lend a hand with pricing, shoot me a PM. I have a guy lined up, but he does loads of other stuff in the area and would prefer not to get to involved.
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If cosh stays and sean in fact becomes a position coach, the paypal account needs to be set up.
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For the record, I am in favor of "RETIRE BILL."
I kind of like "The Hall of Fame Won't Wait."
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If cosh stays and sean in fact becomes a position coach, the paypal account needs to be set up.
Agreed. Again, my personal opinion is that having Snyder with Leavitt (or some other younger talented coaches) as a DC is a GOOD setup. If he doesn't make changes, he should be retired.
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For the record, I am in favor of "RETIRE BILL."
I kind of like "The Hall of Fame Won't Wait."
That's good. How about "The Hall of Fame Shouldn't Wait."
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Did we ever find out the price of a billboard along Tuttle Creek Blvd?
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Did we ever find out the price of a billboard along Tuttle Creek Blvd?
It's probably going to be cheaper to do a billboard, but until you nail down artwork, run time, and exact location it's iffy. I was told $2000 would do it "the right way," but could be done for less. If you guys get a chance, get me some exact locations of bilboards (preferably with pics) that would be good.
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billboard is almost too easy to do. A banner over the spring game would be a massive impact for the cause.
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Did we ever find out the price of a billboard along Tuttle Creek Blvd?
It's probably going to be cheaper to do a billboard, but until you nail down artwork, run time, and exact location it's iffy. I was told $2000 would do it "the right way," but could be done for less. If you guys get a chance, get me some exact locations of bilboards (preferably with pics) that would be good.
Can we put it next to the frequently vandalized ku billboard on I-70?
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Very simplistic billboard with a properly and to-the-point named website (not goEMAW.com) listed on it, the website of which can have all kinds of congrats and rationale for the OBz' retirement.
Banner sounds cool but I don't think it's effective. Those who've seen my pak level in game parking lots know I quickly can't see 20 feet from me, let alone a few thousand feet in the air. And I'm pretty sure the spring game is about pak'ing.
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Trim's idea sounds the most reasonable. Putting up a sign asking Bill to resign or retire outright will likely just piss off our tard-dominated fanbase even more. But if you direct them to a website that thanks Snyder for his service AND nicely outlines why he needs to go, then you might start changing the minds of some of the less myopic shirt tucks.
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I would be willing to do billboard art work, if you need someone to do it.
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Guys, as long as Bill is breathing, the tards will want him. Bill could be obviously delusional, and they would claim that he would be well suited to think up plays that no one else would.
There will be no winning over of the tards in trying to get Bill out.
Gonna have to either be bad enough for Currie to pull the plug, or Bill will have to either die or retire willingly.
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For the record, I am in favor of "RETIRE BILL."
I kind of like "The Hall of Fame Won't Wait."
That's good. How about "The Hall of Fame Shouldn't Wait."
The Hall of Fame Shan't Wait!!!
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"GTFO"
"...ask Tate."
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I would be willing to do billboard art work, if you need someone to do it.
Excellent. We'll holler at you when we get rolling.
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Did we ever find out the price of a billboard along Tuttle Creek Blvd?
It's probably going to be cheaper to do a billboard, but until you nail down artwork, run time, and exact location it's iffy. I was told $2000 would do it "the right way," but could be done for less. If you guys get a chance, get me some exact locations of bilboards (preferably with pics) that would be good.
Can we put it next to the frequently vandalized ku billboard on I-70?
Maybe just vandalize it onto the KU billboard?
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If cosh stays and sean in fact becomes a position coach, the paypal account needs to be set up.
Agreed. Again, my personal opinion is that having Snyder with Leavitt (or some other younger talented coaches) as a DC is a GOOD setup. If he doesn't make changes, he should be retired.
^ This.
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Billboard is the way to go, but the thought of a banner flying around during the Family Reunion weekend is hilarious.
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billboard is a quick cheap cop out. Banners behind planes get attention and get people talking.
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Bill will have to either die
This would be much cheaper than a billboard. Planning it out may take some time, though.
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I still feel making this opinion public with a billboard or a banner could tie curry's hands of forcing him out. Seems it would do more harm than good.
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Those who've seen my pak level in game parking lots know I quickly can't see 20 feet from me
At least you didn't puke on yourself like this pak (that I know of)
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:surprised:
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Those who've seen my pak level in game parking lots know I quickly can't see 20 feet from me
At least you didn't puke on yourself like this pak (that I know of)
That dude on the ground wasn't a pak'r, but I think I see OK_Cat in one of those pics.
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Those who've seen my pak level in game parking lots know I quickly can't see 20 feet from me
At least you didn't puke on yourself like this pak (that I know of)
That dude on the ground wasn't a pak'r, but I think I see OK_Cat in one of those pics.
lol, forgot about that d00d
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Those who've seen my pak level in game parking lots know I quickly can't see 20 feet from me
At least you didn't puke on yourself like this pak (that I know of)
That dude on the ground wasn't a pak'r, but I think I see OK_Cat in one of those pics.
The dude with shin high socks and double fisting Coors Original??
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We need to do the billboard now. Now!
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ASAP
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ASAP!
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Do it as cheaply as possible. Just a simple billboard with a simple message. No need to be fancy. Let's get this ball rolling. Let's do this! Let's do it!
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Do it as cheaply as possible. Just a simple billboard with a simple message. No need to be fancy. Let's get this ball rolling. Let's do this! Let's do it!
Do it right. Snyder will not be fired before this season. Make sure that the banner conveys the message exactly the way you want it conveyed.
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Do it as cheaply as possible. Just a simple billboard with a simple message. No need to be fancy. Let's get this ball rolling. Let's do this! Let's do it!
Do it right. Snyder will not be fired before this season. Make sure that the banner conveys the message exactly the way you want it conveyed.
Billboard is the way to go IMO. The billboard sure as hell cannot contain the words "FIRE" or even "RETIRE". If it comes across as too mean spirited it will totally backfire and cause a swelling of additional Tard/Shirt Tuck support. I like Trim's idea of directing people to a website not connected to goEMAW.com in any way. Like thanksforthememoriessbill.com or something along those lines.
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"MIKE LEACH IS STILL AVAILABLE"
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Do it as cheaply as possible. Just a simple billboard with a simple message. No need to be fancy. Let's get this ball rolling. Let's do this! Let's do it!
Do it right. Snyder will not be fired before this season. Make sure that the banner conveys the message exactly the way you want it conveyed.
Billboard is the way to go IMO. The billboard sure as hell cannot contain the words "FIRE" or even "RETIRE". If it comes across as too mean spirited it will totally backfire and cause a swelling of additional Tard/Shirt Tuck support. I like Trim's idea of directing people to a website not connected to goEMAW.com in any way. Like thanksforthememoriessbill.com or something along those lines.
"Either Fire or Retire"
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Cheapest way to get the "Fire Bill" message out is to contact local establishments in Aggieville. Start with the book store. Offer them $1,000 to leave it on the scroll for a week. If they say no, move on to Rusty's, O'Malley's, the Barber shop, etc.
Owners of those establishments would be foolish to turn down $1,000 in this economy.
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Cheapest way to get the "Fire Bill" message out is to contact local establishments in Aggieville. Start with the book store. Offer them $1,000 to leave it on the scroll for a week. If they say no, move on to Rusty's, O'Malley's, the Barber shop, etc.
Owners of those establishments would be foolish to turn down $1,000 in this economy.
:facepalm:
Please tell me you're joking.
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Shirts
Old-Ball Up and Fire or Retire.
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Cheapest way to get the "Fire Bill" message out is to contact local establishments in Aggieville. Start with the book store. Offer them $1,000 to leave it on the scroll for a week. If they say no, move on to Rusty's, O'Malley's, the Barber shop, etc.
Owners of those establishments would be foolish to turn down $1,000 in this economy.
:facepalm:
Please tell me you're joking.
Not joking. You will find an owner who wants Bill out of town.
I would frequent that establishment. Wouldn't worry about losing business at all.
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Shirts
Old-Ball Up and Fire or Retire.
A full-page Collegian ad would cost between $900 and $1,050.
Would be more effective than shirts, IMO.
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Cheapest way to get the "Fire Bill" message out is to contact local establishments in Aggieville. Start with the book store. Offer them $1,000 to leave it on the scroll for a week. If they say no, move on to Rusty's, O'Malley's, the Barber shop, etc.
Owners of those establishments would be foolish to turn down $1,000 in this economy.
:facepalm:
Please tell me you're joking.
Not joking. You will find an owner who wants Bill out of town.
I would frequent that establishment. Wouldn't worry about losing business at all.
You won't find a business owner in Aggieville that's willing to take the risk of scaring off business or causing controversy for a measly G. Regardless of how we feel about OB, he's still immensly popular in Manhattan and that would be a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) move.
You'll also find a lot of business owners that have strong political opinions but they're not about to advertise that on a rough ridin' sign outside their door. What do they have to gain? A grand? Pffft. :jerk:
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Hey RAMS, I happen to know an Aggieville business owner who would do this.
Go back to Colorado State, loser.
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Shirts
Old-Ball Up and Fire or Retire.
A full-page Collegian ad would cost between $900 and $1,050.
Would be more effective than shirts, IMO.
No to a Collegian ad. Students aren't the target audience for getting rid of Snyder. Now a full page ad in the Mercury.......
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Shirts
Old-Ball Up and Fire or Retire.
A full-page Collegian ad would cost between $900 and $1,050.
Would be more effective than shirts, IMO.
No to a Collegian ad. Students aren't the target audience for getting rid of Snyder. Now a full page ad in the Mercury.......
Agreed, but if you want national attention, school newspapers are the way to go.
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I think we need to clear up the idea behind this sign/banner/newspaper ad. To me the desired result would be not to rally support for the firing of bill or forced retirement. It would be to send a clear message to OBZ himself that a large enough portion of the fan base is willing to uncomfortably put out the message that it is time to leave. I don't think we are going to start changing minds or enlighten people with our message. I think the lines have been drawn and the snyder apologists have dug in for the long haul. If it isn't the shaming of the man himself this is for someone help me understand better.
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Any non-student paper that runs this effectively is slitting their own wrists when it comes to future sources/info from the team or AD.
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1. Really think this actually needs to happen more than ever.
2. It is going to very fascinating to see the reaction, to say the least. Suffice to say, this is much more of a cult movement, than a true reflection of the actual sentiment of the large majority of K-Staters that break into two groups between A. The casual fan that gives a nominal amount money, goes to games, watches on tv, but really has no definitive idea or any true awareness as to what state the program is in regard to our two life bloods, recruiting and the makeup of our coaching staff.
And B. The other faction of the large majority, the shirt tucks, that are fully aware of the state of the program, but live in denial and feel it is their calling to ardently defend the shortcomings and to continually perpetuate a state of mediocrity and inferiority.
Watching the crowd chanting in unison for Bill Sndyer on the center hung scoreboard last night in Bramlage was very telling. He’s their savior. He’s a rock star celebrity to these people and always will be. The reality is this is going to be extremely controversial and met with A LOT of hostility. But, it absolutely needs to be done.
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1. Really think this actually needs to happen more than ever.
2. It is going to very fascinating to see the reaction, to say the least. Suffice to say, this is much more of a cult movement, than a true reflection of the actual sentiment of the large majority of K-Staters that break into two groups between A. The casual fan that gives a nominal amount money, goes to games, watches on tv, but really has no definitive idea or any true awareness as to what state the program is in regard to our two life bloods, recruiting and the makeup of our coaching staff.
And B. The other faction of the large majority, the shirt tucks, that are fully aware of the state of the program, but live in denial and feel it is their calling to ardently defend the shortcomings and to continually perpetuate a state of mediocrity and inferiority.
Watching the crowd chanting in unison for Bill Sndyer on the center hung scoreboard last night in Bramlage was very telling. He’s their savior. He’s a rock star celebrity to these people and always will be. The reality is this is going to be extremely controversial and met with A LOT of hostility. But, it absolutely needs to be done.
Agreed. This billboard is to let the uninformed know that there is a dissenting viewpoint about the direction of the football program. It's never going to win the shirt-tucks over no matter how it's worded. It will be very polarizing, as it should be.
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I maintain my previous opinion :users:
Cosh won't be fired dumb ass. Do you even remember the last time Bill "retired" and all the stories about Weiser pushing him out? Jesus rough ridin' christ let me spell it out for you. A rough ridin' sign/banner saying "Fire LHC Bill Snyder" is going to make us look like rough ridin' Peta throwing blood on fur coats. It's not going to do a god damn thing but make us look like a bunch of ungratefull spoiled jackasses. Bill won't be fired, Currie won't push him out, because WE are the MINORITY.
Flying a banner that reads Fire Bill will increase pressure on Currie to NOT fire him/push him out after the backlash that comes from something as small as a rough ridin' billboard that does not represent the majority.
If you fly a Fire Cosh sign, it will not piss off anyone, because EVERYONE believes it should be done. Bill will have the options to either A: Fire Cosh (not going to happen) B: "Retire" or C: Keep Cosh, Stay as long as he can, running the program into the ground, letting the grapes sour, pissing off the athletic administration because "Bill does things his own way ONLY" & slowly turning the shirt tucks against him.
Option C is the only way I see this administration forcing Snyder out. If you fly a Fire Bill sign, Bill will stay as long as he wants and we will have tied the hands of the administration to do anything about it. Because if they do force him out, they are agreeing with "The Minority" I.E. US.
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I maintain my previous opinion :users:
Cosh won't be fired dumb ass. Do you even remember the last time Bill "retired" and all the stories about Weiser pushing him out? Jesus rough ridin' christ let me spell it out for you. A rough ridin' sign/banner saying "Fire LHC Bill Snyder" is going to make us look like rough ridin' Peta throwing blood on fur coats. It's not going to do a god damn thing but make us look like a bunch of ungratefull spoiled jackasses. Bill won't be fired, Currie won't push him out, because WE are the MINORITY.
Flying a banner that reads Fire Bill will increase pressure on Currie to NOT fire him/push him out after the backlash that comes from something as small as a rough ridin' billboard that does not represent the majority.
If you fly a Fire Cosh sign, it will not piss off anyone, because EVERYONE believes it should be done. Bill will have the options to either A: Fire Cosh (not going to happen) B: "Retire" or C: Keep Cosh, Stay as long as he can, running the program into the ground, letting the grapes sour, pissing off the athletic administration because "Bill does things his own way ONLY" & slowly turning the shirt tucks against him.
Option C is the only way I see this administration forcing Snyder out. If you fly a Fire Bill sign, Bill will stay as long as he wants and we will have tied the hands of the administration to do anything about it. Because if they do force him out, they are agreeing with "The Minority" I.E. US.
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We're the minority, but we're right. Being right should count for something.
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Controversy is amazing. Love it when millionaires are put in uncomfortable spots.
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No matter what path is taken (billboard, plane banner, collegian ad, van with ads and a pre-recorded message roaming the Manhattan streets:
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Promote the hell out of it -- send it to deadspin, bleacherreport, Whitlock, etc to try to get national attention.
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Everyone thinks THEY are right. All the athletic dept wants to do is follow the $$. If so much as a grimace shows up on the shirt tucks faces in reaction to a public statement made about fans wanting Bill to "retire" again. Curry will NOT be able to take the position to agree with anyone that isn't bringing the $$. The only statement I can think of that EVERY ONE can get behind is something to the effect of: "Coach: You were a lot easier to love when your assistant coaches didn't suck... The hall of fame won't wait forever."
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What about an airplane billboard at the first home spring game in Manhattan?
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why do they call you Fuktard?
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Everyone thinks THEY are right. All the athletic dept wants to do is follow the $$. If so much as a grimace shows up on the shirt tucks faces in reaction to a public statement made about fans wanting Bill to "retire" again. Curry will NOT be able to take the position to agree with anyone that isn't bringing the $$. The only statement I can think of that EVERY ONE can get behind is something to the effect of: "Coach: You were a lot easier to love when your assistant coaches didn't suck... The hall of fame won't wait forever."
The "get better assistants" billboard is ridiculous. He can't. Nobody good, up-and-coming, or young wants to work for this man. That is why he has the assistants that he does. I think he probably wants better assistants but he can't get anyone. Why put up a billboard asking him to do something he is incapable of doing. Snyder is the problem, not the assistants. I get your point, but a Fire (Retire) Snyder billboard is the only thing I will support.
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Jesus dude. That's the point.
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When you can't fire someone, but you want them to quit, you give them impossible tasks. I don't know how to make this any more clear for you guys.
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Everyone thinks THEY are right. All the athletic dept wants to do is follow the $$. If so much as a grimace shows up on the shirt tucks faces in reaction to a public statement made about fans wanting Bill to "retire" again. Curry will NOT be able to take the position to agree with anyone that isn't bringing the $$. The only statement I can think of that EVERY ONE can get behind is something to the effect of: "Coach: You were a lot easier to love when your assistant coaches didn't suck... The hall of fame won't wait forever."
I actually agree with this.
We need to get the point accross and we need to affirm others sharing the same viewpoint in that it's okay to have a high standard of excellence and it's okay to strive for something better for your school and not be mouth breathing, group thinking, shirt tucking idiot.
The message just needs to be clever and direct, but can't be overtly insulting or divisive.
IMO...
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If you fly a Fire Cosh sign, it will not piss off anyone, because EVERYONE believes it should be done. Bill will have the options to either A: Fire Cosh (not going to happen) B: "Retire" or C: Keep Cosh, Stay as long as he can, running the program into the ground, letting the grapes sour, pissing off the athletic administration because "Bill does things his own way ONLY" & slowly turning the shirt tucks against him.
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Oh. OK, yeah.
But I really want to see the reaction to a "Fire Snyder" billboard.
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I agree the ensuing melt-down & attention getting for our cause would be epic. I just feel the repercussions would hinder our cause.
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Tread softly...I can see the backfiring if done improperly.
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great thread here:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=173&f=2670&t=7042963
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Goddammit Heinballz...you're making some great points, but you're making me even more depressed :goodbyecruelworld:
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great thread here:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=173&f=2670&t=7042963
Precisely.
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great thread here:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=173&f=2670&t=7042963
Precisely.
It's a really good summary of what we're up against as a fanbase and as a university.
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great thread here:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=173&f=2670&t=7042963
Precisely.
It's a really good summary of what we're up against as a fanbase and a university.
Considering that fact that GoPowercat has about 3,000+ subscribers alone and 80% share this exact same viewpoint, yeah it's a pretty sobering reminder of the challenge we face combatting this ideology.
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What exactly does backfiring consist of here? Unless somehow this leavitt thing works out before the season I can't see things getting much worse.
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Hell, all I needed to know about the situation was 90% of Bramlage (and 99% of the student section :eek: ) giving Bill a raucous cheer last night. We're badly outnumbered here.
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What exactly does backfiring consist of here? Unless somehow this leavitt thing works out before the season I can't see things getting much worse.
Instead of waiting another 2-3 years to "calm the waters," Synds stays on for another 5-10 years and runs this program so far into the ground that they can't resurrect it when we eventually get shuttled off to the Mountain West :bawl:
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great thread here:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=173&f=2670&t=7042963
Precisely.
It's a really good summary of what we're up against as a fanbase and as a university.
God bless you, Cooper3. Keep fighting the good fight.
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Hell, all I needed to know about the situation was 90% of Bramlage (and 99% of the student section :eek: ) giving Bill a raucous cheer last night. We're badly outnumbered here.
Rockstar, Bill!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just think about the last time Snyder was fired... I mean, Retired. What happened there?
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What exactly does backfiring consist of here? Unless somehow this leavitt thing works out before the season I can't see things getting much worse.
Instead of waiting another 2-3 years to "calm the waters," Synds stays on for another 5-10 years and runs this program so far into the ground that they can't resurrect it when we eventually get shuttled off to the Mountain West :bawl:
I think two to three more years of WRSOAT will be sufficient to flat line the program. I get not wanting to expose people to collateral damage in this thing like business owners and the like but I can't understand not wanting to do it for fear that Snyder might stay longer just because a group of people don't want him to.
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Hey RAMS, I happen to know an Aggieville business owner who would do this.
Go back to Colorado State, loser.
Hey everybody, j rake here has the solution to all our problems!! He knows a guy that will do this for us in Aggieville for FREE!!!
I expect to see this by next week. TIA :pbj:
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Mods, can you lock this thread please. j rake has it taken care of.
MODS!!!
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What exactly does backfiring consist of here? Unless somehow this leavitt thing works out before the season I can't see things getting much worse.
Instead of waiting another 2-3 years to "calm the waters," Synds stays on for another 5-10 years and runs this program so far into the ground that they can't resurrect it when we eventually get shuttled off to the Mountain West :bawl:
I think two to three more years of WRSOAT will be sufficient to flat line the program. I get not wanting to expose people to collateral damage in this thing like business owners and the like but I can't understand not wanting to do it for fear that Snyder might stay longer just because a group of people don't want him to.
It's not as likely that Snyder would stay on another 5-10 just to eff us at goEMAW specifically, rather it's more likely that the fan backlash will be so severe that they'll likely beg him to stay another decade. That would have repercussions in the AD offices, because they ultimately can't go against the shirt tucks who have the vast majority of the money. It basically comes down to how their policy-making process gets influenced. Ultimately, that's why this situation sucks so much. Both scenarios have us very likely flatlining, but one of them (not pissing off the shirt tucks) gives at least the hope that ADJC and UPKS can dig us out of it if Snyder erodes enough goodwill to get him to "retire" rather than actually retire.
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how much will you pay me to drive around town with window signs or get a personalized license plate with your message?
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Watching the crowd chanting in unison for Bill Sndyer on the center hung scoreboard last night in Bramlage was very telling.
I enjoyed the moment we had as this was happening.
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Watching the crowd chanting in unison for Bill Sndyer on the center hung scoreboard last night in Bramlage was very telling.
I enjoyed the moment we had as this was happening.
I remained silent. Sorry shirt-tucks.
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Mods, can you lock this thread please. j rake has it taken care of.
MODS!!!
Go back to St. Louis and stop calling my bluffs! :angry:
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I am willing to tweet the crap out of "fire or retire" if you give me a grand. If it helps, Aggiville follows me.
Think of the impact...
PM for payment coord.
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I would call this the dumbest idea I have ever heard about, but then I remembered you guys thought it was a good idea to pay a high school coach more money than he can ever spend on rims for his car or whatever his people blow their money on. Bill is going to once again be the only coach at K-State to play a post-season game. Maybe he can get Frank Martinez to apply his natural talents to come clean his pool over the summer.
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I would call this the dumbest idea I have ever heard about, but then I remembered you guys thought it was a good idea to pay a high school coach more money than he can ever spend on rims for his car or whatever his people blow their money on. Bill is going to once again be the only coach at K-State to play a post-season game. Maybe he can get Frank Martinez to apply his natural talents to come clean his pool over the summer.
I sense a little more edge to the 'nooudj here.
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I would call this the dumbest idea I have ever heard about, but then I remembered you guys thought it was a good idea to pay a high school coach more money than he can ever spend on rims for his car or whatever his people blow their money on. Bill is going to once again be the only coach at K-State to play a post-season game. Maybe he can get Frank Martinez to apply his natural talents to come clean his pool over the summer.
I sense a little more edge to the 'nooudj here.
He feels it all slipping away.
Can really rattle a man homophobic racist
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Watching the crowd chanting in unison for Bill Sndyer on the center hung scoreboard last night in Bramlage was very telling.
I enjoyed the moment we had as this was happening.
I remained silent. Sorry shirt-tucks.
909: :dunno:
Trim: TUCK IN YOUR SHIRT AND SOAK IT IN BABY!!!!
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Watching the crowd chanting in unison for Bill Sndyer on the center hung scoreboard last night in Bramlage was very telling.
I enjoyed the moment we had as this was happening.
I remained silent. Sorry shirt-tucks.
on the chant, it was students and students only
edit: at least mostly. they def started it
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Watching the crowd chanting in unison for Bill Sndyer on the center hung scoreboard last night in Bramlage was very telling.
I enjoyed the moment we had as this was happening.
I remained silent. Sorry shirt-tucks.
on the chant, it was students and students only
Duly noted. Hell of a point.
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You know what? Eff it. I think I'm going to convert into a happy go lucky, who gives a crap, shirt tuck fan. Seems much easier than this crap.
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You know what? Eff it. I think I'm going to convert into a happy go lucky, who gives a crap, shirt tuck fan. Seems much easier than this crap.
That's an existence worse than death, bro.
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For the record, I am in favor of "RETIRE BILL."
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Watching the crowd chanting in unison for Bill Sndyer on the center hung scoreboard last night in Bramlage was very telling.
I enjoyed the moment we had as this was happening.
It felt good. Really connected.
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Hell, all I needed to know about the situation was 90% of Bramlage (and 99% of the student section :eek: ) giving Bill a raucous cheer last night. We're badly outnumbered here.
Because of this, I feel like our best option is to attack it from a bunch of different angles. Multiple websites, billboards, "Reitre Snyder" signs spread out throught the OOD, so that it seems like our numbers are much, much bigger.
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Hell, all I needed to know about the situation was 90% of Bramlage (and 99% of the student section :eek: ) giving Bill a raucous cheer last night. We're badly outnumbered here.
Because of this, I feel like our best option is to attack it from a bunch of different angles. Multiple websites, billboards, "Reitre Snyder" signs spread out throught the OOD, so that it seems like our numbers are much, much bigger.
I agree. We have to approach this like we are fighting ignorance. Start with something small to plant the seeds of dissention. Wait a couple weeks and do something bigger. If we smack people over the head with something big, they will see themselves as being attacked and defend their belief to the end.
I vote that we start by having a few dual GPC posters having a thread that works itself frmo the current problems to the root of the problems. Probably at an obscene hour, so that way nobody can mod the crap out of the thread.
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You know what? Eff it. I think I'm going to convert into a happy go lucky, who gives a crap, shirt tuck fan. Seems much easier than this crap.
That's an existence worse than death, bro.
Ignorance is bliss.
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I would call this the dumbest idea I have ever heard about, but then I remembered you guys thought it was a good idea to pay a high school coach more money than he can ever spend on rims for his car or whatever his people blow their money on. Bill is going to once again be the only coach at K-State to play a post-season game. Maybe he can get Frank Martinez to apply his natural talents to come clean his pool over the summer.
If you're gonna play the backwoods-racist-piece-of-crap schtick, at least try and bring some humor, mkay? TIA :thumbsup:
By the way, who's the dood in your sig pic? It kinda looks like a scene from a Broadway production of True Grit...but gayer. :dunno:
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Mods, can you lock this thread please. j rake has it taken care of.
MODS!!!
Go back to St. Louis and stop calling my bluffs! :angry:
eff! Seriously...MODS!!! j rake's gonna tell his buddy to hang a sign on his hot dog cart in Aggieville. Why are we wasting our time talking about this!?
Also, you've now gone the St. Louis Rams route and CO State Rams route. What else ya got in that fine bbs'n repertoire? :users:
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Also, you've now gone the St. Louis Rams route and CO State Rams route. What else ya got in that fine bbs'n repertoire? :users:
Listen, jerk, why don't you go back to Virginia Commonwealth where you belong! :angry:
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Hell, all I needed to know about the situation was 90% of Bramlage (and 99% of the student section :eek: ) giving Bill a raucous cheer last night. We're badly outnumbered here.
Damn. I stand corrected on my previous statement that students aren't the target audience. They may not have money or tucked in shirts but their parents do. A full page Collegian ad might be a good way to test the waters.
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I can't support the banner idea.
the student section spelling out something a long the lines of COSH SUX with board cards like the Chiefs did Saturday would be more effective. IMHO
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I can't support the banner idea.
Big surprise.
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You could always write a threatening letter to ADJC or HCBS about firing Cosh. Come up with a basic statement and give it to PoetWarrior to make it cryptic and mix in some different colored fonts. You can address it from wildcatvictory.com or from Crazy Robert.
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You could always write a threatening letter to ADJC or HCBS about firing Cosh. Come up with a basic statement and give it to PoetWarrior to make it cryptic and mix in some different colored fonts. You can address it from wildcatvictory.com or from Crazy Robert.
Whatever happened to the good ol' days of cut up magazine print?
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I can't support the banner idea.
the student section spelling out something a long the lines of COSH SUX with board cards like the Chiefs did Saturday would be more effective. IMHO
Hmm..This could be done during a basketball game...
Let me meet with my think tank and see if we could organize something along these lines.
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TSHIRTS
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I can't support the banner idea.
the student section spelling out something a long the lines of COSH SUX with board cards like the Chiefs did Saturday would be more effective. IMHO
Hmm..This could be done during a basketball game...
Let me meet with my think tank and see if we could organize something along these lines.
Stop with the Cosh stuff. Cosh sucks. He shouldn't be or have been part of the staff. That's on OBz. That's who OBz is. There will always be Coshs on an OBz staff.
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I can't support the banner idea.
the student section spelling out something a long the lines of COSH SUX with board cards like the Chiefs did Saturday would be more effective. IMHO
Hmm..This could be done during a basketball game...
Let me meet with my think tank and see if we could organize something along these lines.
Stop with the Cosh stuff. Cosh sucks. He shouldn't be or have been part of the staff. That's on OBz. That's who OBz is. There will always be Coshs on an OBz staff.
No no no. I think this is EXACTLY why Cosh needs to be the focus. If we focus on Cosh, we have a better chance of rallying the tucks because even they're pissed at this point. We focus on Cosh the same way UT focused on Greg Davis and push OB into a corner. We all know he's not going to make a change, so essentially we're rallying support from the tucks by not directly attacking "The Legend." When OB refuses to make a change, the tucks will have no choice but to direct their anger at him.
It's really our last best hope if we want to bring the tucks on board.
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I can't support the banner idea.
the student section spelling out something a long the lines of COSH SUX with board cards like the Chiefs did Saturday would be more effective. IMHO
Hmm..This could be done during a basketball game...
Let me meet with my think tank and see if we could organize something along these lines.
Stop with the Cosh stuff. Cosh sucks. He shouldn't be or have been part of the staff. That's on OBz. That's who OBz is. There will always be Coshs on an OBz staff.
No no no. I think this is EXACTLY why Cosh needs to be the focus. If we focus on Cosh, we have a better chance of rallying the tucks because even they're pissed at this point. We focus on Cosh the same way UT focused on Greg Davis and push OB into a corner. We all know he's not going to make a change, so essentially we're rallying support from the tucks by not directly attacking "The Legend." When OB refuses to make a change, the tucks will have no choice but to direct their anger at him.
It's really our last best hope if we want to bring the tucks on board.
I see where you're going with this, and I like it. But I think the tucks would say something more along the lines of "Well, Snyder must really see something in this guy. If he wants to give him one more chance, so should we." It would be very anticlimatic.
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The only way Snyder can change my opinion of him is if he recruited a stud quarterback.
You can't trot out Grant Gregory, Carson Coffman and Collin Klein as your starting QB's and then argue that the waters are calm. A team without a quarterback is a team going nowhere.
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I can't support the banner idea.
the student section spelling out something a long the lines of COSH SUX with board cards like the Chiefs did Saturday would be more effective. IMHO
Hmm..This could be done during a basketball game...
Let me meet with my think tank and see if we could organize something along these lines.
Stop with the Cosh stuff. Cosh sucks. He shouldn't be or have been part of the staff. That's on OBz. That's who OBz is. There will always be Coshs on an OBz staff.
No no no. I think this is EXACTLY why Cosh needs to be the focus. If we focus on Cosh, we have a better chance of rallying the tucks because even they're pissed at this point. We focus on Cosh the same way UT focused on Greg Davis and push OB into a corner. We all know he's not going to make a change, so essentially we're rallying support from the tucks by not directly attacking "The Legend." When OB refuses to make a change, the tucks will have no choice but to direct their anger at him.
It's really our last best hope if we want to bring the tucks on board.
I see where you're going with this, and I like it. But I think the tucks would say something more along the lines of "Well, Snyder must really see something in this guy. If he wants to give him one more chance, so should we." It would be very anticlimatic.
Look, if we all understand that we're operating under the likely correct assumption that nothing we do or say is going to change the minds of the tucks, then what can we do that's definitely going to be effective in swaying the minds of the people that matter. rough ridin' nothing, that's what. So, unless we want just sit around pulling our dicks, we have to choose the option that we think will most quickly and effectively reach our end goal...warts and all.
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I see where you're going with this, and I like it. But I think the tucks would say something more along the lines of "Well, Snyder must really see something in this guy. If he wants to give him one more chance, so should we." It would be very anticlimatic.
Look, if we all understand that we're operating under the likely correct assumption that nothing we do or say is going to change the minds of the tucks, then what can we do that's definitely going to be effective in swaying the minds of the people that matter. rough ridin' nothing, that's what. So, unless we want just sit around pulling our dicks, we have to choose the option that we think will most quickly and effectively reach our end goal...warts and all.
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can we just do this anyway?
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Stop with the Cosh stuff. Cosh sucks. He shouldn't be or have been part of the staff. That's on OBz. That's who OBz is. There will always be Coshs on an OBz staff.
No way in hell is public opinion (especially the wealthy (old) public opinion) going to sway to support firing Snyder in the next two years. Not going to happen.
However, raising awareness that Cosh sucks and needs to go could do either one of two things: First, Snyder retains Cosh, amidst all the vitriol surrounding Cosh, this looks very bad for Snyder and could help get the old money second guessing "the legend." Or, second, Cosh gets fired.
Truth be told, I'm still in the Fire Cosh or Fire Snyder. If our defense was even top 60 this year I think we get 9 wins.
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We don't need the tucks. We need the large contingent of people who agree with us but don't know it's ok to speak out against the tucks and who need a leader.
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We don't need the tucks. We need the large contingent of people who agree with us but don't know it's ok to speak out against the tucks and who need a leader.
Give a few days for GPC to discuss this. It seems several over there are coming around. The 'tucks are split on this. Probably the best you could ask for.
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Why anybody thinks that the waters aren't calm is beyond me. The program is as perfectly mediocre as can be expected, and at the level that we basically deserve as K-State fans. Now that the waters are calm, Bill should be employed in a capacity such as would allow him to do much head-patting of youngsters. He deserves that.
If you really want to change the state of the program for the better, save your banner money and invest every penny in time travel tech. Fitz, Wefald, Krause, etc. must be neutralized.
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Maybe if we all just start sending retirement gifts to Vanier, Bill will think that he announced his retirement and just forgot about it.
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Maybe if we all just start sending retirement gifts to Vanier, Bill will think that he announced his retirement and just forgot about it.
A Gold Watch presented by goEMAW.com
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Maybe if we all just start sending retirement gifts to Vanier, Bill will think that he announced his retirement and just forgot about it.
A Gold Watch presented by goEMAW.com
I like this if I didn't think he would just give it to Sean.
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We don't need the tucks. We need the large contingent of people who agree with us but don't know it's ok to speak out against the tucks and who need a leader.
Many people in this thread grossly overestimate the amount of people willing to give LHC Bill Snyder free reign for perpetuity.
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We don't need the tucks. We need the large contingent of people who agree with us but don't know it's ok to speak out against the tucks and who need a leader.
Give a few days for GPC to discuss this. It seems several over there are coming around. The 'tucks are split on this. Probably the best you could ask for.
The tucks are holding out hope for Leavitt/anyone other than Cosh.
If the only staff move is Sean and/or a position coach to replace Mo or Burns, it's time to turn up the heat.
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We don't need the tucks. We need the large contingent of people who agree with us but don't know it's ok to speak out against the tucks and who need a leader.
Give a few days for GPC to discuss this. It seems several over there are coming around. The 'tucks are split on this. Probably the best you could ask for.
The tucks are holding out hope for Leavitt/anyone other than Cosh.
If the only staff move is Sean and/or a position coach to replace Mo or Burns, it's time to turn up the heat.
Time to turn up the heat.
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Is there a paypal site for the Fire Bill Banner/Bill board. I'm in. (after this season)
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If cosh stays and sean in fact becomes a position coach, the paypal account needs to be set up.
Agreed. Again, my personal opinion is that having Snyder with Leavitt (or some other younger talented coaches) as a DC is a GOOD setup. If he doesn't make changes, he should be retired.
Both have come to pass, I would donate to billboard/banner today.
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Is there a paypal site for the Fire Bill Banner/Bill board. I'm in. (after this season)
the fact that stormnut is in says something
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Is there a paypal site for the Fire Bill Banner/Bill board. I'm in. (after this season)
the fact that stormnut is in says something
ya. i was :surprised: when i saw that
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can we please just do this?
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can we please just do this?
It's time.
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Once again where do I send a rough ridin' check?
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Once again where do I send a rough ridin' check?
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Do we have a design decided on? Cause I had plans this weekend, but I'll gladly cancel them to design a billboard with any rough ridin' message on that bitch. And if you guys want images used that are copyrighted, I'll drive to wherever the eff they are and re-take the mother rough rider with my own camera to avoid any of that legal crap. Lets get this crap done.
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not sure if oklahoma money and kansas money can be used together, but OK_Cat is in for a few Cherokee nickels.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6180700
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6180700
Should have gone with a billboard. Maybe a multifaceted approach?
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6180700
I don't hate it, sounds like the fans are helping the effort by not attending games. I don't foresee a decline in ticket sales, attendance like that at the BSFS though.