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Title: why not Jim?
Post by: ednksu on December 30, 2010, 11:08:57 PM
Seems like a lot of people don't want Jim because he would be a "Snyder guy" rather then fresh blood.  Is that right?  Seems to me like he would be a good hire as a potential HCIW.  Currie could frame it as brining back DOD coaching that old money would love, he is an enthusiastic coach and pretty hardcore.  I don't see a down side with him.  Is the argument that he didn't win big enough at USF?
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 30, 2010, 11:12:29 PM
He is coming.  I believe.  And I want him more than I want a 3 way with the ghost of a young Anna Nicole and the 19 year old Jennifer Love Hewitt.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: HeinBallz on December 30, 2010, 11:23:37 PM
Any evidence to back up you belief he is coming... cause that would be awesome.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: KSUTOMMY on December 30, 2010, 11:28:18 PM
He is coming.  I believe.  And I want him more than I want a 3 way with the ghost of a young Anna Nicole and the 19 year old Jennifer Love Hewitt.

Now this is just crazy talk. Him or the above scenario - SHlT, that's tough, boys - that's tough.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Pett on December 30, 2010, 11:28:25 PM
I ask myself the same question. Then I'm reminded that he coached in Florida and probably never wants to leave.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Pete on December 30, 2010, 11:31:41 PM
The MOST important point in the "pro" column for Jim is that he's literally, not figuratively, the best we can possibly get.   Who would want this rough ridin' thing. 

If Snyder were willing to be like every single other coach in the NCAA and get rid of crap AC's, I'd be in favor of keeping Snyder.  But, that's not the world we live in....
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Havs on December 31, 2010, 03:24:01 AM
You guys obviously have Hoiberg envy and are going to hire Michael Bishop as your next head football coach. He will then hire Jim Leavitt as his DC.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: WildcatNation on December 31, 2010, 03:38:51 AM
You guys obviously have Hoiberg envy and are going to hire Michael Bishop as your next head football coach. He will then hire Jim Leavitt as his DC.
AMAZING idea!  :lynchmob:  :cheers:  :excited:

maybe even hire Ell Roberson as a OC?
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: KITNfury on December 31, 2010, 06:57:29 AM
There's a lot of optimism in this thread. Snyder won't fire Cosh.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 31, 2010, 09:12:10 AM
He is coming.  I believe.  And I want him more than I want a 3 way with the ghost of a young Anna Nicole and the 19 year old Jennifer Love Hewitt.

We are talking about Jim Harbaugh here, right guys? 
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Panjandrum on December 31, 2010, 09:48:05 AM
There's a lot of optimism in this thread. Snyder won't fire Cosh.

Being Serious...

Snyder doesn't have to fire cosh.  Rahne quit.  He could easily make Dimel the RB/TE coach and hire some dude to be co-defensive coordinator and demote Cosh without completely and obviously broadcasting it, saving face for Cosh.

Hire a guy like Leavitt and say that you had to make him a coordinator or he wouldn't come.  Therefore, Chris graciously agreed to share the title and duties for the good of the team.

I'm just sayin'.  There are options.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: michigancat on December 31, 2010, 09:59:16 AM
I don't like it because Leavitt's awfully mediocre for a "damaged goods" coach.  Also, what's the point of HCIW?  Some Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) favor to Snyder?  If you're going to do it, just make Leavitt HC.  I don't want a smooth transition from the piece of crap program we have now, I want to cut as many ties as possible and start from scratch. 
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 31, 2010, 10:02:52 AM
I don't like it because Leavitt's awfully mediocre for a "damaged goods" coach.  Also, what's the point of HCIW?  Some Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) favor to Snyder?  If you're going to do it, just make Leavitt HC.  I don't want a smooth transition from the piece of cac program we have now, I want to cut as many ties as possible and start from scratch. 

I am not sure there are too many more or other ways to say "KSU isn't going to fire Snyder now"?

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Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 31, 2010, 10:07:26 AM
Would love to see Currie's "note cards in the desk drawer" on who he's got his eyes on.

Or . . . he probably doesn't have any.

 :frown:
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 31, 2010, 10:08:41 AM
Oh yeah . . . when my brother says we need a new coach, the Rubicon has officially been crossed, might as well burn the boats Currie.

Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: steve dave on December 31, 2010, 10:16:09 AM
 :drool: < Currie knowing he's getting ever closer to getting to hire a FB coach
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: michigancat on December 31, 2010, 10:18:50 AM
I don't like it because Leavitt's awfully mediocre for a "damaged goods" coach.  Also, what's the point of HCIW?  Some Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) favor to Snyder?  If you're going to do it, just make Leavitt HC.  I don't want a smooth transition from the piece of cac program we have now, I want to cut as many ties as possible and start from scratch.  

I am not sure there are too many more or other ways to say "KSU isn't going to fire Snyder now"?

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Then I don't want Leavitt because I don't think he will make much of a difference.  Give me a young DC that recruits Texas like crazy instead.  Leavitt might help with schemes or whatever, but I don't think he will give us a shot in the arm with recruiting, which is the bigger problem.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: j rake on December 31, 2010, 10:29:07 AM
Big East coaches love field goals.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: catzacker on December 31, 2010, 10:50:12 AM
Hiring a new defensive coordinator is like buying a nicer captains' chair for the titanic the day before her maiden voyage.   the only benefit from hiring JL, is that he might recruit better than cosh.  until snyder is dead/fired, the only conversation should be "how do we get the roster better for the next coach". not "I think so and so is a better dc than cosh".  hey dipsh*ts, it doesn't matter if you get tyson hartman aligned correctly, he sucks. 
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: steve dave on December 31, 2010, 10:57:21 AM
hey dipsh*ts, it doesn't matter if you get tyson hartman aligned correctly
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: KITNfury on December 31, 2010, 11:05:52 AM
hey dipsh*ts, it doesn't matter if you get tyson hartman aligned correctly
Point taken, but he did better last year with presumably equal athletic ability. But anyway, I think it's fair to say that we all want a new DC that isn't just an X's and O's guy, but also a recruiter. As much as I'm pissed at Snyder, he made our offense fairly effective with the worst BCS starting QB in the country, a decent/good RB, and an average line. Get a DC that can at least get middle of the road BCS talent on that side of the ball and know how to coach them on top of that, and we'll be at least an 8 win team for as long as Snyder and said imaginary DC is here. Not great, but I'll take it over what we have now. I'm ok with starting from scratch, but what coach that is worth a crap is going to come here now? We might  be able to get an up and comer or a coordinator with a good background if we can get to a 8-9 win team.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: catzacker on December 31, 2010, 11:08:03 AM
hey dipsh*ts, it doesn't matter if you get tyson hartman aligned correctly
Point taken, but he did better last year with presumably equal athletic ability. But anyway, I think it's fair to say that we all want a new DC that isn't just an X's and O's guy, but also a recruiter. As much as I'm pissed at Snyder, he made our offense fairly effective with the worst BCS starting QB in the country, a decent/good RB, and an average line. Get a DC that can at least get middle of the road BCS talent on that side of the ball and know how to coach them on top of that, and we'll be at least an 8 win team for as long as Snyder and said imaginary DC is here. Not great, but I'll take it over what we have now. I'm ok with starting from scratch, but what coach that is worth a cac is going to come here now? We might  be able to get an up and comer or a coordinator with a good background if we can get to a 8-9 win team.

i think it's fair to say that I want a new head coach, who will fill the staff with non-Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) coaches who can recruit.  that's pretty much the solution.  everything else is fingering dykes or something.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: KITNfury on December 31, 2010, 11:09:41 AM
hey dipsh*ts, it doesn't matter if you get tyson hartman aligned correctly
Point taken, but he did better last year with presumably equal athletic ability. But anyway, I think it's fair to say that we all want a new DC that isn't just an X's and O's guy, but also a recruiter. As much as I'm pissed at Snyder, he made our offense fairly effective with the worst BCS starting QB in the country, a decent/good RB, and an average line. Get a DC that can at least get middle of the road BCS talent on that side of the ball and know how to coach them on top of that, and we'll be at least an 8 win team for as long as Snyder and said imaginary DC is here. Not great, but I'll take it over what we have now. I'm ok with starting from scratch, but what coach that is worth a cac is going to come here now? We might  be able to get an up and comer or a coordinator with a good background if we can get to a 8-9 win team.

i think it's fair to say that I want a new head coach, who will fill the staff with non-Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) coaches who can recruit.  that's pretty much the solution.  everything else is fingering dykes or something.
Might as well ask for the moon while you're at it.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Cire on December 31, 2010, 11:14:34 AM
I don't mind leavitt at all as a DC.  as a HC not sure, he'd better be able to hire some good young assistants.

anyone know USF's track record with assistant coaches.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: michigancat on December 31, 2010, 12:46:54 PM
hey dipsh*ts, it doesn't matter if you get tyson hartman aligned correctly
Point taken, but he did better last year with presumably equal athletic ability. But anyway, I think it's fair to say that we all want a new DC that isn't just an X's and O's guy, but also a recruiter. As much as I'm pissed at Snyder, he made our offense fairly effective with the worst BCS starting QB in the country, a decent/good RB, and an average line. Get a DC that can at least get middle of the road BCS talent on that side of the ball and know how to coach them on top of that, and we'll be at least an 8 win team for as long as Snyder and said imaginary DC is here. Not great, but I'll take it over what we have now. I'm ok with starting from scratch, but what coach that is worth a cac is going to come here now? We might  be able to get an up and comer or a coordinator with a good background if we can get to a 8-9 win team.

i think it's fair to say that I want a new head coach, who will fill the staff with non-Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) coaches who can recruit.  that's pretty much the solution.  everything else is fingering dykes or something.
Might as well ask for the moon while you're at it.

Prince actually showed how easy it is to do.  With a few tweaks (i.e. more Texas recruiting ties) it would have been fantastic.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: catzacker on December 31, 2010, 12:52:37 PM
hey dipsh*ts, it doesn't matter if you get tyson hartman aligned correctly
Point taken, but he did better last year with presumably equal athletic ability. But anyway, I think it's fair to say that we all want a new DC that isn't just an X's and O's guy, but also a recruiter. As much as I'm pissed at Snyder, he made our offense fairly effective with the worst BCS starting QB in the country, a decent/good RB, and an average line. Get a DC that can at least get middle of the road BCS talent on that side of the ball and know how to coach them on top of that, and we'll be at least an 8 win team for as long as Snyder and said imaginary DC is here. Not great, but I'll take it over what we have now. I'm ok with starting from scratch, but what coach that is worth a cac is going to come here now? We might  be able to get an up and comer or a coordinator with a good background if we can get to a 8-9 win team.

i think it's fair to say that I want a new head coach, who will fill the staff with non-Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) coaches who can recruit.  that's pretty much the solution.  everything else is fingering dykes or something.
Might as well ask for the moon while you're at it.

Prince actually showed how easy it is to do.  With a few tweaks (i.e. more Texas recruiting ties) it would have been fantastic.

this.  and I'll even give prince moral victories for coming close to getting McGriff and McNeil. 
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 31, 2010, 08:28:04 PM
Hiring a new defensive coordinator is like buying a nicer captains' chair for the titanic the day before her maiden voyage.   the only benefit from hiring JL, is that he might recruit better than cosh.  until snyder is dead/fired, the only conversation should be "how do we get the roster better for the next coach". not "I think so and so is a better dc than cosh".  hey dipsh*ts, it doesn't matter if you get tyson hartman aligned correctly, he sucks. 

So, keep the horrible captain's chairs that have wire sticking out of them and smell like a wet dog?  Even when we have option of drowning in comfort?

Not me.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: KITNfury on December 31, 2010, 10:52:59 PM
hey dipsh*ts, it doesn't matter if you get tyson hartman aligned correctly
Point taken, but he did better last year with presumably equal athletic ability. But anyway, I think it's fair to say that we all want a new DC that isn't just an X's and O's guy, but also a recruiter. As much as I'm pissed at Snyder, he made our offense fairly effective with the worst BCS starting QB in the country, a decent/good RB, and an average line. Get a DC that can at least get middle of the road BCS talent on that side of the ball and know how to coach them on top of that, and we'll be at least an 8 win team for as long as Snyder and said imaginary DC is here. Not great, but I'll take it over what we have now. I'm ok with starting from scratch, but what coach that is worth a cac is going to come here now? We might  be able to get an up and comer or a coordinator with a good background if we can get to a 8-9 win team.

i think it's fair to say that I want a new head coach, who will fill the staff with non-Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) coaches who can recruit.  that's pretty much the solution.  everything else is fingering dykes or something.
Might as well ask for the moon while you're at it.

Prince actually showed how easy it is to do.  With a few tweaks (i.e. more Texas recruiting ties) it would have been fantastic.

this.  and I'll even give prince moral victories for coming close to getting McGriff and McNeil. 
I know right. And Wooly almost turned the corner.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: nicname on December 31, 2010, 11:45:27 PM
hey dipsh*ts, it doesn't matter if you get tyson hartman aligned correctly
Point taken, but he did better last year with presumably equal athletic ability. But anyway, I think it's fair to say that we all want a new DC that isn't just an X's and O's guy, but also a recruiter. As much as I'm pissed at Snyder, he made our offense fairly effective with the worst BCS starting QB in the country, a decent/good RB, and an average line. Get a DC that can at least get middle of the road BCS talent on that side of the ball and know how to coach them on top of that, and we'll be at least an 8 win team for as long as Snyder and said imaginary DC is here. Not great, but I'll take it over what we have now. I'm ok with starting from scratch, but what coach that is worth a cac is going to come here now? We might  be able to get an up and comer or a coordinator with a good background if we can get to a 8-9 win team.

i think it's fair to say that I want a new head coach, who will fill the staff with non-Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) coaches who can recruit.  that's pretty much the solution.  everything else is fingering dykes or something.
Might as well ask for the moon while you're at it.

Prince actually showed how easy it is to do.  With a few tweaks (i.e. more Texas recruiting ties) it would have been fantastic.

this.  and I'll even give prince moral victories for coming close to getting McGriff and McNeil. 

You live in a fantasy world.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: hemmy on January 01, 2011, 01:08:48 AM
Prince tards coming out again. Warren Ruggerio, QB genius.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: catzacker on January 01, 2011, 09:01:48 AM
hey dipsh*ts, it doesn't matter if you get tyson hartman aligned correctly
Point taken, but he did better last year with presumably equal athletic ability. But anyway, I think it's fair to say that we all want a new DC that isn't just an X's and O's guy, but also a recruiter. As much as I'm pissed at Snyder, he made our offense fairly effective with the worst BCS starting QB in the country, a decent/good RB, and an average line. Get a DC that can at least get middle of the road BCS talent on that side of the ball and know how to coach them on top of that, and we'll be at least an 8 win team for as long as Snyder and said imaginary DC is here. Not great, but I'll take it over what we have now. I'm ok with starting from scratch, but what coach that is worth a cac is going to come here now? We might  be able to get an up and comer or a coordinator with a good background if we can get to a 8-9 win team.

i think it's fair to say that I want a new head coach, who will fill the staff with non-Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) coaches who can recruit.  that's pretty much the solution.  everything else is fingering dykes or something.
Might as well ask for the moon while you're at it.

Prince actually showed how easy it is to do.  With a few tweaks (i.e. more Texas recruiting ties) it would have been fantastic.

this.  and I'll even give prince moral victories for coming close to getting McGriff and McNeil. 
I know right. And Wooly almost turned the corner.

we're talking about getting good coaches.  it's not that hard.  also, Ron and Bill2.0 have gone to the same amount of bowl games.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Cire on January 01, 2011, 09:08:26 AM
As it stands today, we are no better off than we were with ron.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: ednksu on January 01, 2011, 09:09:20 AM
hey dipsh*ts, it doesn't matter if you get tyson hartman aligned correctly
Point taken, but he did better last year with presumably equal athletic ability. But anyway, I think it's fair to say that we all want a new DC that isn't just an X's and O's guy, but also a recruiter. As much as I'm pissed at Snyder, he made our offense fairly effective with the worst BCS starting QB in the country, a decent/good RB, and an average line. Get a DC that can at least get middle of the road BCS talent on that side of the ball and know how to coach them on top of that, and we'll be at least an 8 win team for as long as Snyder and said imaginary DC is here. Not great, but I'll take it over what we have now. I'm ok with starting from scratch, but what coach that is worth a cac is going to come here now? We might  be able to get an up and comer or a coordinator with a good background if we can get to a 8-9 win team.

i think it's fair to say that I want a new head coach, who will fill the staff with non-Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) coaches who can recruit.  that's pretty much the solution.  everything else is fingering dykes or something.
Might as well ask for the moon while you're at it.

Prince actually showed how easy it is to do.  With a few tweaks (i.e. more Texas recruiting ties) it would have been fantastic.

this.  and I'll even give prince moral victories for coming close to getting McGriff and McNeil. 
I know right. And Wooly almost turned the corner.

we're talking about getting good coaches.  it's not that hard.  also, Ron and Bill2.0 have gone to the same amount of bowl games.
accept for the fact they are trending in opposite directions.  nice logical fallacy.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: ednksu on January 01, 2011, 09:10:37 AM
As it stands today, we are no better off than we were with ron.
this is one of the dumbest statements ever posted on goEMAW.com, congratulations.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: catzacker on January 01, 2011, 09:17:34 AM
what f'ing trend are you talking about?  

04 2-6
05 2-6
06 4-4
07 3-5
08 2-6
09 4-4
10 3-5

jfc.  a trend of mediocrity.  and the league was just awful this year.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: wetwillie on January 01, 2011, 09:18:19 AM
As it stands today, we are no better off than we were with ron.
this is one of the dumbest statements ever posted on goEMAW.com, congratulations.

It really isn't
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: ednksu on January 01, 2011, 09:44:57 AM
what f'ing trend are you talking about?  

04 2-6
05 2-6
06 4-4
07 3-5
08 2-6
09 4-4
10 3-5

jfc.  a trend of mediocrity.  and the league was just awful this year.
jfc you people are just so blinded by your illogical hate of Snyder that you can't even imagine real facts. 

Bill one year back with crap left for him competes for the north>>>>>>>>Prince with better players left to him pissing down leg
Bill second year going to bowl game, doesn't lose north hopes till late in the season>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>killed team successfully by 2nd year, no hope of bowl or north, can't beat 3 north rivals
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: michigancat on January 01, 2011, 10:00:34 AM
Bill one year back with crap left for him competes for the north>>>>>>>>Prince with better players left to him pissing down leg

4-4 = 4-4.  And Prince had better players (Freeman, Johnson) because he recruited them.  (Of course, he recruited DT, who saved Bill's ass.)

Bill second year going to bowl game, doesn't lose north hopes till late in the season>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>killed team successfully by 2nd year, no hope of bowl or north, can't beat 3 north rivals

3-5 =============================================== 3-5

You're struggling to look for progress, and can't find it, so you add rivals and declare our record against them to be a significant factor.  Face it.  LHC Bill Snyder currently sucks at coaching football.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: catzacker on January 01, 2011, 10:29:49 AM
Bill one year back with cac left for him competes for the north>>>>>>>>Prince with better players left to him pissing down leg

4-4 = 4-4.  And Prince had better players (Freeman, Johnson) because he recruited them.  (Of course, he recruited DT, who saved Bill's ass.)

Bill second year going to bowl game, doesn't lose north hopes till late in the season>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>killed team successfully by 2nd year, no hope of bowl or north, can't beat 3 north rivals

3-5 =============================================== 3-5

You're struggling to look for progress, and can't find it, so you add rivals and declare our record against them to be a significant factor.  Face it.  LHC Bill Snyder currently sucks at coaching football.

somehow people overrate the roster prince was left with.  i mean, how terrible does it have to be when it can only go 2-6 and 2-6 in the two years after that roster had enough talent to win the big 12.

I mean, in ron's first two seasons he went 4-4 and 3-5 in conference....same as snyds.  In ron's first two seasons, the offense made strides while the defense got worse.....same as snyds. 

 
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 01, 2011, 10:31:05 AM
You are what your record says you are . . . Bill Parcells

Since we aren't going to get a new coach, the next best thing is that we have to get a new DC, we simply have to.   You can talk all you want about our talent (coaches job to recruit better talent) and injuries, but look at how the Cuse scored and moved the ball.   Terrible reads, bad pursuit angles, alignments that just invited them to blow open holes . . . that has nothing to do with talent and injuries and everything to do with coaching.  

If not Snyder at least Cosh, and probably the entire defensive staff, with an exception of maybe Burns has to go.  
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: KITNfury on January 01, 2011, 10:33:26 AM
hey dipsh*ts, it doesn't matter if you get tyson hartman aligned correctly
Point taken, but he did better last year with presumably equal athletic ability. But anyway, I think it's fair to say that we all want a new DC that isn't just an X's and O's guy, but also a recruiter. As much as I'm pissed at Snyder, he made our offense fairly effective with the worst BCS starting QB in the country, a decent/good RB, and an average line. Get a DC that can at least get middle of the road BCS talent on that side of the ball and know how to coach them on top of that, and we'll be at least an 8 win team for as long as Snyder and said imaginary DC is here. Not great, but I'll take it over what we have now. I'm ok with starting from scratch, but what coach that is worth a cac is going to come here now? We might  be able to get an up and comer or a coordinator with a good background if we can get to a 8-9 win team.

i think it's fair to say that I want a new head coach, who will fill the staff with non-Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) coaches who can recruit.  that's pretty much the solution.  everything else is fingering dykes or something.
Might as well ask for the moon while you're at it.

Prince actually showed how easy it is to do.  With a few tweaks (i.e. more Texas recruiting ties) it would have been fantastic.

this.  and I'll even give prince moral victories for coming close to getting McGriff and McNeil. 
I know right. And Wooly almost turned the corner.

we're talking about getting good coaches.  it's not that hard.  also, Ron and Bill2.0 have gone to the same amount of bowl games.
Maybe, maybe not. Using RP as an example is re-rough ridin'-tarded. He got, what, maybe 2 good coaches? They left promptly and were replaced with crap. Assuming we can just pull in some quality head coach that can pull in good coordinators and lower level coaches who can recruit well is a lofty goal when you're a program that is historically bad and is currently an average team (at best).
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: catzacker on January 01, 2011, 10:37:01 AM
if ron's a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), like everyone says, then it takes a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to get two good coaches on your staff.  so what in the hell does that make bill since '04?
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: KITNfury on January 01, 2011, 10:42:58 AM
if ron's a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), like everyone says, then it takes a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to get two good coaches on your staff.  so what in the hell does that make bill since '04?
Is it not painfully obvious that RP was more lucky than good? Nobody can keep replenishing coaches with future NFL HCs, but you'd think if he was even half as good as you're implying, he surely could have plucked somebody from somewhere other than that lazy eyed gem from some DIII school.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: catzacker on January 01, 2011, 10:44:29 AM
if ron's a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), like everyone says, then it takes a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to get two good coaches on your staff.  so what in the hell does that make bill since '04?
Is it not painfully obvious that RP was more lucky than good? Nobody can keep replenishing coaches with future NFL HCs, but you'd think if he was even half as good as you're implying, he surely could have plucked somebody from somewhere other than that lazy eyed gem from some DIII school.

the point isn't that ron was good, it was that even alleged retards can get good coaches.  so bill isn't "lucky" anymore?  he just flat out sucks?
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: CHONGS on January 01, 2011, 10:47:15 AM
I just don't want JL as HCIW.  If he comes as DC, never being HC at KSU should be a term of his contract.

Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Trim on January 01, 2011, 10:47:39 AM
Do we have any options besides RP and OBz?  
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: KITNfury on January 01, 2011, 10:52:00 AM
if ron's a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), like everyone says, then it takes a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to get two good coaches on your staff.  so what in the hell does that make bill since '04?
Is it not painfully obvious that RP was more lucky than good? Nobody can keep replenishing coaches with future NFL HCs, but you'd think if he was even half as good as you're implying, he surely could have plucked somebody from somewhere other than that lazy eyed gem from some DIII school.

the point isn't that ron was good, it was that even alleged retards can get good coaches.  so bill isn't "lucky" anymore?  he just flat out sucks?
First, I don't want you to construe my comments as being apologetic for Snyder. I wasn't too happy about gettin' the gang back together. I did like him hiring Koenig, Dickey, and that guy that left before he got here as OC. So it's not as if he didn't bring in some new/good blood, but like Prince, he couldn't retain them or replace with high quality guys. Still though, as far as Snyder is concerned, I think we're just a good DC from being a respectable program again. A program that might be able to attract someone that we all want.

No matter what you say, Snyder did work magic on our very limited offense this year, so he's not completely devoid of coaching ability. If he can't fire Cosh and get someone in here that will recruit better and coach a good game plan, I'll be completely off the bandwagon. I wouldn't even say that I'm on the bandwagon now, but I'm not sure our options are real bright, and I'm willing to stay content IF Cosh is unmercifully fired. I don't even want that cancer handing out towels in the locker room.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 01, 2011, 10:56:19 AM
if ron's a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), like everyone says, then it takes a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to get two good coaches on your staff.  so what in the hell does that make bill since '04?
Is it not painfully obvious that RP was more lucky than good? Nobody can keep replenishing coaches with future NFL HCs, but you'd think if he was even half as good as you're implying, he surely could have plucked somebody from somewhere other than that lazy eyed gem from some DIII school.

the point isn't that ron was good, it was that even alleged retards can get good coaches.  so bill isn't "lucky" anymore?  he just flat out sucks?

As much as the Tards dispute this, I think Bill still has a 1992 mindset in evaluating talent.  Back then, outworking the other guy went a long way, both as a player and a coach.  High motor guys could be all conference.  Film room warrior coaches could win on Saturdays.

It isn't true anymore.  Everyone is high motor and a film room warrior.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: michigancat on January 01, 2011, 11:00:08 AM
I wouldn't even say that I'm on the bandwagon now, but I'm not sure our options are real bright, and I'm willing to stay content IF Cosh is unmercifully fired.

Our options will never be "real bright" at KSU.  I don't know what kind of coach you think rough ridin' around with Snyder for a few more years will get us that we couldn't get right now.  And when the most batshit crazy coach in history matches our legend's record, we might as well take another risk.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 01, 2011, 11:07:41 AM
I wouldn't even say that I'm on the bandwagon now, but I'm not sure our options are real bright, and I'm willing to stay content IF Cosh is unmercifully fired.

Our options will never be "real bright" at KSU.  I don't know what kind of coach you think effing around with Snyder for a few more years will get us that we couldn't get right now.  And when the most batcac crazy coach in history matches our legend's record, we might as well take another risk.

I guess we should just stand pat until Snyder is terminated then.  Cool, lock thread mods.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 01, 2011, 11:08:36 AM
I wouldn't even say that I'm on the bandwagon now, but I'm not sure our options are real bright, and I'm willing to stay content IF Cosh is unmercifully fired.

Our options will never be "real bright" at KSU.  I don't know what kind of coach you think effing around with Snyder for a few more years will get us that we couldn't get right now.  And when the most batcac crazy coach in history matches our legend's record, we might as well take another risk.

I guess we should just stand pat until Snyder is terminated then.  Cool, lock thread mods.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: michigancat on January 01, 2011, 11:09:08 AM
I wouldn't even say that I'm on the bandwagon now, but I'm not sure our options are real bright, and I'm willing to stay content IF Cosh is unmercifully fired.

Our options will never be "real bright" at KSU.  I don't know what kind of coach you think effing around with Snyder for a few more years will get us that we couldn't get right now.  And when the most batcac crazy coach in history matches our legend's record, we might as well take another risk.

I guess we should just stand pat until Snyder is terminated then.  Cool, lock thread mods.

no, because what we're getting now is about as bad as it gets.  Taking a risk could lead to something much better, but couldn't be much worse.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: catzacker on January 01, 2011, 11:09:50 AM
Do we have any options besides RP and OBz?  

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Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: CHONGS on January 01, 2011, 11:11:34 AM
I am all for

High Risk / High Reward

I think KSU should always make that kind of hire.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: wetwillie on January 01, 2011, 11:13:55 AM
Do we have any options besides RP and OBz?  

We are going to be paying them both, why not just get rid of OBz and let Ron try again
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Trim on January 01, 2011, 11:16:51 AM
Do we have any options besides RP and OBz?  

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Good.  It's depressing only debating who sucks more between RP and OBz.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: KITNfury on January 01, 2011, 11:22:03 AM
I wouldn't even say that I'm on the bandwagon now, but I'm not sure our options are real bright, and I'm willing to stay content IF Cosh is unmercifully fired.

Our options will never be "real bright" at KSU.  I don't know what kind of coach you think rough ridin' around with Snyder for a few more years will get us that we couldn't get right now.  And when the most batshit crazy coach in history matches our legend's record, we might as well take another risk.
I don't know what kind of coach you think we could get now. I don't think we could even get a coordinator from a good program.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 01, 2011, 11:26:39 AM
I wouldn't even say that I'm on the bandwagon now, but I'm not sure our options are real bright, and I'm willing to stay content IF Cosh is unmercifully fired.

Our options will never be "real bright" at KSU.  I don't know what kind of coach you think effing around with Snyder for a few more years will get us that we couldn't get right now.  And when the most batcac crazy coach in history matches our legend's record, we might as well take another risk.

I guess we should just stand pat until Snyder is terminated then.  Cool, lock thread mods.

no, because what we're getting now is about as bad as it gets.  Taking a risk could lead to something much better, but couldn't be much worse.

But Snyder isn't going anywhere.  At least not next season.  So let's try and get a DC who might be able to recruit 1 or 2 Florida kids and if we crash as bad as expected, Snyds will step aside or at least the seeds will be planted that it's time for him to go, and we won't have to watch Cosh's defense or WRSOAT.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: kso_FAN on January 01, 2011, 11:37:05 AM
But Snyder isn't going anywhere.  At least not next season.  So let's try and get a DC who might be able to recruit 1 or 2 Florida kids and if we crash as bad as expected, Snyds will step aside or at least the seeds will be planted that it's time for him to go, and we won't have to watch Cosh's defense or WRSOAT.

Thanks for being realistic.  I'm all for BBSing being about discussion and all that, but the ONLY chance of Snyder being gone is if he retires again in the next few weeks.  There is no way he'll be fired this year, or even next year, even if he goes 0-12. 

To me the only realistic high hopes expectation is that the coaching spot that is already open will be filled by Leavitt.  Then hopefully another coach or two moves on or retires and maybe Leavitt convinces Snyder to bring in a guy or two that used to work with him at South Florida. 
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: catzacker on January 01, 2011, 11:39:37 AM
snyder's old, he could die. 
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: OK_Cat on January 01, 2011, 11:42:50 AM
snyder's old, he could die. 

fingers crossed
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: wetwillie on January 01, 2011, 11:44:24 AM
snyder's old, he could die. 


This is probably Currie's dream scenario.  Gets rid of Bill without pissing anyone off, gets to hire his own coach, and won't have to divide the fan base doing it.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: CHONGS on January 01, 2011, 11:49:58 AM
Snyder is not leaving anytime soon. 

All I am saying is when he does we need to make a high risk / high reward hire.  A HCIW is not (IMHO) a good move for KSU, which is why I don't really want Leavitt at all.  I think the only reason he would come is because he thinks he will get the HC job eventually.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 01, 2011, 11:54:55 AM
Snyder is not leaving anytime soon. 

All I am saying is when he does we need to make a high risk / high reward hire.  A HCIW is not (IMHO) a good move for KSU, which is why I don't really want Leavitt at all.  I think the only reason he would come is because he thinks he will get the HC job eventually.

Yeah, I don't want a former BCS head coach who built a program with recruiting ties in Florida to take over the worst defense we have ever had if there is a risk he would want the head coach job at some point.  Let's stand pat and see where this plays out.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: CHONGS on January 01, 2011, 12:24:38 PM
Snyder is not leaving anytime soon. 

All I am saying is when he does we need to make a high risk / high reward hire.  A HCIW is not (IMHO) a good move for KSU, which is why I don't really want Leavitt at all.  I think the only reason he would come is because he thinks he will get the HC job eventually.

Yeah, I don't want a former BCS head coach who built a program with recruiting ties in Florida to take over the worst defense we have ever had if there is a risk he would want the head coach job at some point.  Let's stand pat and see where this plays out.
I agree that hiring Leavitt is the safe, temporary way to help the program.  I just don't like it because I think more drastic changes are necessary.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 01, 2011, 12:34:12 PM
Snyder is not leaving anytime soon. 

All I am saying is when he does we need to make a high risk / high reward hire.  A HCIW is not (IMHO) a good move for KSU, which is why I don't really want Leavitt at all.  I think the only reason he would come is because he thinks he will get the HC job eventually.

Yeah, I don't want a former BCS head coach who built a program with recruiting ties in Florida to take over the worst defense we have ever had if there is a risk he would want the head coach job at some point.  Let's stand pat and see where this plays out.
I agree that hiring Leavitt is the safe, temporary way to help the program.  I just don't like it because I think more drastic changes are necessary.

It's better than nothing.  I actually think the pros outweigh the cons by quite a bit.  Currie isn't going to be bullied by a former headcoach into giving him the HCIW job.  So, bring him and offer him a shot at rehabbing his rep.  If he puts together a top 20 defense and starts recruiting while building a staff under him, consider him for HC.  If he doesn't, he can leave when Bill finally does.

Right now, canning a bowl game coach who built your program and has his name on your stadium to go make a "high rish-high reward" hire would make the job at KSU so poisonous we couldn't even get Dave Bliss to take it.

We are stuck with Bill right now, so let's rearrange the deck chairs and see if it helps.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: kso_FAN on January 01, 2011, 12:41:01 PM
Agreed. There is no reason you have to tab Leavitt HCIW to get him here. He likely needs another opportunity to get another head coaching job in he future anyway, and significant improvement with our defense (not like it would be difficult) would do that. He only needs to look at Koenning getting a huge pay raise after his year here as evidence that it wouldn't be a bad move.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 01, 2011, 12:44:03 PM
leavitt would come. our defense would get better, because getting worse would be impossible. all the powertards would hail him as the next ksu savior. he'd be the next head coach cause he'd be the easy hire for currie who in all likelihood wants to rock the boat as little as possible and get the shazbot! out of manhattan. we'd then be stuck w/ leavitt and a 5-7 football team every year. do not want. go broke or go home. eff leavitt.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: michigancat on January 01, 2011, 12:46:00 PM
It's better than nothing.  I actually think the pros outweigh the cons by quite a bit.  Currie isn't going to be bullied by a former headcoach into giving him the HCIW job.  So, bring him and offer him a shot at rehabbing his rep.  If he puts together a top 20 defense and starts recruiting while building a staff under him, consider him for HC.  If he doesn't, he can leave when Bill finally does.

"Leavitt:  Better than nothing."  Should be a nice companion to Bill's "Slightly Better Than Prince" tour.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 01, 2011, 01:02:46 PM
It's better than nothing.  I actually think the pros outweigh the cons by quite a bit.  Currie isn't going to be bullied by a former headcoach into giving him the HCIW job.  So, bring him and offer him a shot at rehabbing his rep.  If he puts together a top 20 defense and starts recruiting while building a staff under him, consider him for HC.  If he doesn't, he can leave when Bill finally does.

"Leavitt:  Better than nothing."  Should be a nice companion to Bill's "Slightly Better Than Prince" tour.

Because it sucks, doesn't make it any less of a reality.

This is a chance at someone who KSU wouldn't normally have a shot at.  I hope Currie and Snyds realizes this. 

A vote against JL is a vote in favor of CC.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: catzacker on January 01, 2011, 01:05:46 PM
leavitt would come. our defense would get better, because getting worse would be impossible. all the powertards would hail him as the next ksu savior. he'd be the next head coach cause he'd be the easy hire for currie who in all likelihood wants to rock the boat as little as possible and get the shazbot! out of manhattan. we'd then be stuck w/ leavitt and a 5-7 football team every year. do not want. go broke or go home. eff leavitt.

this. in all likelihood Greg Robinson will be available in about 4 hours.  Hire him, Bill.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: michigancat on January 01, 2011, 01:06:38 PM
It's better than nothing.  I actually think the pros outweigh the cons by quite a bit.  Currie isn't going to be bullied by a former headcoach into giving him the HCIW job.  So, bring him and offer him a shot at rehabbing his rep.  If he puts together a top 20 defense and starts recruiting while building a staff under him, consider him for HC.  If he doesn't, he can leave when Bill finally does.

"Leavitt:  Better than nothing."  Should be a nice companion to Bill's "Slightly Better Than Prince" tour.

Because it sucks, doesn't make it any less of a reality.

This is a chance at someone who KSU wouldn't normally have a shot at.  I hope Currie and Snyds realizes this.  

A vote against JL is a vote in favor of CC.

pretty we'll always have a shot at disgraced, fired, former head coaches to be assistant coaches.  Was Leavitt working anywhere this year?  No?  OK.  Thanks.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: wetwillie on January 01, 2011, 01:27:10 PM
If Rich Rod pulls a dante stallworth tonight after their bowl game would he still be out of our reach?
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Kat Kid on January 01, 2011, 02:25:33 PM
If Rich Rod pulls a dante stallworth tonight after their bowl game would he still be out of our reach?


I would like.  Seriously, at this point it is clear that our ceiling as a program is CU under Gary Barnett with T-Tech under Leach being at the bottom end of the right side of the bell curve.  There was not room to daydream too much, but I would put Rich Rod in the Leach range.  Patterson is still the dream.

Leavitt is right in the fat, gelatinous center of the bell curve bringing a perpetual losing record in conference.

I've included BV as a "big reward/big risk."  Feel free to improve upon this graphic.

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Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 01, 2011, 02:37:19 PM
It's better than nothing.  I actually think the pros outweigh the cons by quite a bit.  Currie isn't going to be bullied by a former headcoach into giving him the HCIW job.  So, bring him and offer him a shot at rehabbing his rep.  If he puts together a top 20 defense and starts recruiting while building a staff under him, consider him for HC.  If he doesn't, he can leave when Bill finally does.

"Leavitt:  Better than nothing."  Should be a nice companion to Bill's "Slightly Better Than Prince" tour.

Because it sucks, doesn't make it any less of a reality.

This is a chance at someone who KSU wouldn't normally have a shot at.  I hope Currie and Snyds realizes this.  

A vote against JL is a vote in favor of CC.

pretty we'll always have a shot at disgraced, fired, former head coaches to be assistant coaches.  Was Leavitt working anywhere this year?  No?  OK.  Thanks.

Cool, let's take a look at the others you had in mind....
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 01, 2011, 02:52:19 PM
If Rich Rod pulls a dante stallworth tonight after their bowl game would he still be out of our reach?


If the Mich AD shot RichRod out of a cannon before the final gun sounded, he still would never come to KSU.

Who the shazbot! do you guys think is chomping at the bit to take this job, even as a HCIW? 

Leavitt coud at least try to fix the defense until BS leaves (likely in 3 years when Tate has completed his free education) and at that point, who knows who is out there.

Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: ChiComCat on January 01, 2011, 03:43:07 PM
If Rich Rod pulls a dante stallworth tonight after their bowl game would he still be out of our reach?


If the Mich AD shot RichRod out of a cannon before the final gun sounded, he still would never come to KSU.

Who the shazbot! do you guys think is chomping at the bit to take this job, even as a HCIW? 

Leavitt coud at least try to fix the defense until BS leaves (likely in 3 years when Tate has completed his free education) and at that point, who knows who is out there.



:love: You just made me hope for some new coach coming in and pulling Tate's scholly :love:
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 01, 2011, 03:56:32 PM
If Rich Rod pulls a dante stallworth tonight after their bowl game would he still be out of our reach?


If the Mich AD shot RichRod out of a cannon before the final gun sounded, he still would never come to KSU.

Who the shazbot! do you guys think is chomping at the bit to take this job, even as a HCIW? 

Leavitt coud at least try to fix the defense until BS leaves (likely in 3 years when Tate has completed his free education) and at that point, who knows who is out there.



:love: You just made me hope for some new coach coming in and pulling Tate's scholly :love:

Which is exactly why BS isn't going anywhere until Tate gets what Bill considers his birthright.  So, let's try and fix the defense in the meantime.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: ednksu on January 01, 2011, 04:00:42 PM
leavitt would come. our defense would get better, because getting worse would be impossible. all the powertards would hail him as the next ksu savior. he'd be the next head coach cause he'd be the easy hire for currie who in all likelihood wants to rock the boat as little as possible and get the shazbot! out of manhattan. we'd then be stuck w/ leavitt and a 5-7 football team every year. do not want. go broke or go home. eff leavitt.

this. in all likelihood Greg Robinson will be available in about 4 hours.  Hire him, Bill.
you seriously just said this?  I mean rough ridin' seriously?
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 01, 2011, 04:01:30 PM
If Rich Rod pulls a dante stallworth tonight after their bowl game would he still be out of our reach?


If the Mich AD shot RichRod out of a cannon before the final gun sounded, he still would never come to KSU.

Who the shazbot! do you guys think is chomping at the bit to take this job, even as a HCIW? 

Leavitt coud at least try to fix the defense until BS leaves (likely in 3 years when Tate has completed his free education) and at that point, who knows who is out there.



:love: You just made me hope for some new coach coming in and pulling Tate's scholly :love:

Which is exactly why BS isn't going anywhere until Tate gets what Bill considers his birthright.  So, let's try and fix the defense in the meantime.


i just had a really scary thought. what if there are more "tates" and bill wants to be able to give free ride football scholarships to all of them. how old is the youngest snyder grandchild? male only.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 01, 2011, 04:02:23 PM
If Rich Rod pulls a dante stallworth tonight after their bowl game would he still be out of our reach?


If the Mich AD shot RichRod out of a cannon before the final gun sounded, he still would never come to KSU.

Who the shazbot! do you guys think is chomping at the bit to take this job, even as a HCIW? 

Leavitt coud at least try to fix the defense until BS leaves (likely in 3 years when Tate has completed his free education) and at that point, who knows who is out there.



:love: You just made me hope for some new coach coming in and pulling Tate's scholly :love:

Which is exactly why BS isn't going anywhere until Tate gets what Bill considers his birthright.  So, let's try and fix the defense in the meantime.


i just had a really scary thought. what if there are more "tates" and bill wants to be able to give free ride football scholarships to all of them. how old is the youngest snyder grandchild? male only.

If anybody knows, you should....
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Trim on January 01, 2011, 04:31:49 PM
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Didn't we kind of do this back in 2005 (absent the bowl game)?
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: O-town Kat on January 01, 2011, 04:42:17 PM
Can't like our odds of bowling next year there, Refuse to Lose
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 01, 2011, 04:45:25 PM
Against mu.  I got misty, cheered a bunch.

Wish I hadn't even gone now.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 01, 2011, 04:46:03 PM
If Rich Rod pulls a dante stallworth tonight after their bowl game would he still be out of our reach?


If the Mich AD shot RichRod out of a cannon before the final gun sounded, he still would never come to KSU.

Who the shazbot! do you guys think is chomping at the bit to take this job, even as a HCIW? 

Leavitt coud at least try to fix the defense until BS leaves (likely in 3 years when Tate has completed his free education) and at that point, who knows who is out there.



:love: You just made me hope for some new coach coming in and pulling Tate's scholly :love:

Which is exactly why BS isn't going anywhere until Tate gets what Bill considers his birthright.  So, let's try and fix the defense in the meantime.


i just had a really scary thought. what if there are more "tates" and bill wants to be able to give free ride football scholarships to all of them. how old is the youngest snyder grandchild? male only.

If anybody knows, you should....

just what the eff is that supposed to mean bad person?  :curse:
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: CHONGS on January 01, 2011, 04:46:41 PM
:surprised:
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: catzacker on January 01, 2011, 05:16:42 PM
leavitt would come. our defense would get better, because getting worse would be impossible. all the powertards would hail him as the next ksu savior. he'd be the next head coach cause he'd be the easy hire for currie who in all likelihood wants to rock the boat as little as possible and get the shazbot! out of manhattan. we'd then be stuck w/ leavitt and a 5-7 football team every year. do not want. go broke or go home. eff leavitt.

this. in all likelihood Greg Robinson will be available in about 4 hours.  Hire him, Bill.
you seriously just said this?  I mean effing seriously?

it's for the greater good.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: KITNfury on January 01, 2011, 06:07:58 PM
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Didn't we kind of do this back in 2005 (absent the bowl game)?
To be fair, I'm pretty sure there was at least 39k there in '05.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Deez Nutz on January 01, 2011, 07:22:23 PM
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Didn't we kind of do this back in 2005 (absent the bowl game)?
To be fair, I'm pretty sure there was at least 39k there in '05.

There was actually 45,000 at that game.  Everybody else knew he would return and thus purchased the "Thanks, Coach!"  commemorative DVD rather than spend the money on tickets. 
Title: Re: why not Jim?
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Watching Urban Meyer go out with a bowl in front of tens of thousands of Florida fans is giving me chills. I hope when Bill steps down we get to send him out with a bowl victory in front of 30,000 plus K-Staters.

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Didn't we kind of do this back in 2005 (absent the bowl game)?
To be fair, I'm pretty sure there was at least 39k there in '05.

There was actually 45,000 at that game.  Everybody else knew he would return and thus purchased the "Thanks, Coach!"  commemorative DVD rather than spend the money on tickets. 

That rough ridin' DVD was about the same price as a ticket.  OBz should give me a refund.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: sys on January 01, 2011, 10:08:39 PM
if ron's a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), like everyone says, then it takes a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to get two good coaches on your staff.  so what in the hell does that make bill since '04?

it seems pretty obvious that it's relatively easy to hire asst coaches that are at least as not-Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) as everyone else's asst coaches.  probably because there's a huge pool of self-selecting potential applicants and an extremely limited number of jobs.


the key is probably to create a work environment where you don't lock the asst coaches in their offices 18 hrs/day and/or have them run steps while you eff their wives.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: ChiComCat on January 01, 2011, 10:46:15 PM
the key is probably to create a work environment where you don't lock the asst coaches in their offices 18 hrs/day and/or have them run steps while you eff their wives.

You'd have better luck finding a unicorn than this "dream job" of which you speak
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: MadCat on January 01, 2011, 10:52:05 PM
the key is probably to create a work environment where you don't lock the asst coaches in their offices 18 hrs/day and/or have them run steps while you eff their wives.

You'd have better luck finding a unicorn than this "dream job" of which you speak

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Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Gooch on January 02, 2011, 12:28:40 PM
Against mu.  I got misty, cheered a bunch.

Wish I hadn't even gone now.
This
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 02, 2011, 12:42:42 PM
leavitt would come. our defense would get better, because getting worse would be impossible. all the powertards would hail him as the next ksu savior. he'd be the next head coach cause he'd be the easy hire for currie who in all likelihood wants to rock the boat as little as possible and get the shazbot! out of manhattan. we'd then be stuck w/ leavitt and a 5-7 football team every year. do not want. go broke or go home. eff leavitt.

this. in all likelihood Greg Robinson will be available in about 4 hours.  Hire him, Bill.

So we are worried Leavitt would come and make our defense so good that some folks would want him as a head coach? 

Seems like there are a lot worse things that could happen.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Pett on January 02, 2011, 01:00:03 PM
Does our football administration understand that we don't give a shazbot! what Venables did in the past? I don't care if he killed a guy, I just wanna be good at football again. :frown:
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Panjandrum on January 02, 2011, 01:17:06 PM
Does our football administration understand that we don't give a shazbot! what Venables did in the past? I don't care if he killed a guy, I just wanna be good at football again. :frown:

A part of me wonders if Venables would come here now if the HCIW tag was made very public, and a timetable was very defined.

For example, Brent Venables would make $500K a year, and he'd be HC starting in 2013.

However, I highly doubt that Snyder would give up that kind of control.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 02, 2011, 01:24:43 PM
Does our football administration understand that we don't give a shazbot! what Venables did in the past? I don't care if he killed a guy, I just wanna be good at football again. :frown:

A part of me wonders if Venables would come here now if the HCIW tag was made very public, and a timetable was very defined.

For example, Brent Venables would make $500K a year, and he'd be HC starting in 2013.

However, I highly doubt that Snyder would give up that kind of control.

why wouldn't he do this? who else is going to hire him?
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Panjandrum on January 02, 2011, 01:27:50 PM
Does our football administration understand that we don't give a shazbot! what Venables did in the past? I don't care if he killed a guy, I just wanna be good at football again. :frown:

A part of me wonders if Venables would come here now if the HCIW tag was made very public, and a timetable was very defined.

For example, Brent Venables would make $500K a year, and he'd be HC starting in 2013.

However, I highly doubt that Snyder would give up that kind of control.

why wouldn't he do this? who else is going to hire him?

I have no idea.  His name is mentioned a lot, but as you say, hiring him is a different issue.

I'd be on board with this, if it were the case.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: deputy dawg on January 02, 2011, 03:31:16 PM
hey dipsh*ts, it doesn't matter if you get tyson hartman aligned correctly
Point taken, but he did better last year with presumably equal athletic ability. But anyway, I think it's fair to say that we all want a new DC that isn't just an X's and O's guy, but also a recruiter. As much as I'm pissed at Snyder, he made our offense fairly effective with the worst BCS starting QB in the country, a decent/good RB, and an average line. Get a DC that can at least get middle of the road BCS talent on that side of the ball and know how to coach them on top of that, and we'll be at least an 8 win team for as long as Snyder and said imaginary DC is here. Not great, but I'll take it over what we have now. I'm ok with starting from scratch, but what coach that is worth a cac is going to come here now? We might  be able to get an up and comer or a coordinator with a good background if we can get to a 8-9 win team.

i think it's fair to say that I want a new head coach, who will fill the staff with non-Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) coaches who can recruit.  that's pretty much the solution.  everything else is fingering dykes or something.
"fingering dykes" isn't as easy as it looks
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Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Pett on January 06, 2011, 06:52:25 PM
There are definitely some legs to this rumor now. Bill, please don't break our hearts again :pray:
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: "storm"nut on January 06, 2011, 06:59:44 PM
There are definitely some legs to this rumor now. Bill, please don't break our hearts again :pray:

don't know if Bill can mess this up. The tree branchs trend to curve in when it comes to Bill.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: jtksu on January 06, 2011, 11:46:30 PM
As far as 2/3 of this thread goes: DNR.  But I, once again, had a solid realization that the majority of the posters on this board are balls to the wall retards.  I would love to think that some of you are simply joking or illiterate, but that's just not the case.  Mods- can we just rename this BBS:  "Tards and the people that love them?"  TIA.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: HeinBallz on January 07, 2011, 12:29:16 AM
DNR, most of your post; but who are you considering the tards in this thread?
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: O-town Kat on January 07, 2011, 09:08:36 AM
Bennett to Baylor.  Carry on.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: MadCat on January 07, 2011, 10:13:37 AM
Look forward to kicking Phil's garbage defense with whatever TecmoBowl Offense Bill/Sean decide to run.  :emawkid:
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: wabash909 on January 07, 2011, 01:23:53 PM
Interesting.

Quote
Leavitt's Next Job...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
...will be as an assistant at Kansas State University and his job immediately following that will be as head coach at either K-State or KU.


Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 07, 2011, 01:27:38 PM
who wouldn't want the DC job here, you have the chance to look like a coaching genius.
I mean statistically we almost can't get any worse.  :emawkid:
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 07, 2011, 01:28:18 PM
Interesting.

Quote
Leavitt's Next Job...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
...will be as an assistant at Kansas State University and his job immediately following that will be as head coach at either K-State or KU.




weird. Who's that from? reputable?
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: wabash909 on January 07, 2011, 01:41:27 PM
Interesting.

Quote
Leavitt's Next Job...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
...will be as an assistant at Kansas State University and his job immediately following that will be as head coach at either K-State or KU.




weird. Who's that from? reputable?


A guy over on GP that is actually pretty solid with his info.



Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: CHONGS on January 07, 2011, 01:42:45 PM
Is K-State allergic to coaching searches?
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: O-town Kat on January 07, 2011, 01:51:31 PM
KU can have him.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: "storm"nut on January 07, 2011, 01:55:32 PM
Bennett to Baylor.  Carry on.

Shocking turn of events here.
this struck me as odd.
he will electrify that D.
he will bolt for the the TCU job when Patterson leaves.
Bet he will buy a Chevy Volt with his first paycheck.

I think that gets them all in there.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: CHONGS on January 07, 2011, 01:59:17 PM
Interesting.

Quote
Leavitt's Next Job...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
...will be as an assistant at Kansas State University and his job immediately following that will be as head coach at either K-State or KU.




weird. Who's that from? reputable?


A guy over on GP that is actually pretty solid with his info.

If true, then this means Currie caved on the HCIW idea no?
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: "storm"nut on January 07, 2011, 02:02:47 PM
Is K-State allergic to coaching searches that involve good candidates?

FYP

Currie may have the cure.  We need to see him in action. Soon maybe :pray:
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: CHONGS on January 07, 2011, 02:06:20 PM
Is K-State allergic to coaching searches that involve good candidates?

FYP

Currie may have the cure.  We need to see him in action. Soon maybe :pray:
I am starting to doubt that Currie will ever make a coaching hire at KSU.  This all sounds like Bill is hiring the next coach.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: wiley on January 07, 2011, 02:10:08 PM
Is K-State allergic to coaching searches that involve good candidates?

FYP

Currie may have the cure.  We need to see him in action. Soon maybe :pray:
I am starting to doubt that Currie will ever make a coaching hire at KSU.  This all sounds like Bill is hiring the next coach.

I'm of the absolute blind faith that Currie goes with an up and comer from the SEC.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: "storm"nut on January 07, 2011, 02:13:09 PM
Is K-State allergic to coaching searches that involve good candidates?

FYP

Currie may have the cure.  We need to see him in action. Soon maybe :pray:
I am starting to doubt that Currie will ever make a coaching hire at KSU.  This all sounds like Bill is hiring the next coach.

Bill just keeping the seat warm for Levitt (of course after he was fired but was not before) Currie is "Okay" with this. Meaning Levitt is on a very short leash. Currie know there is still a lot of money, from donors, in keeping the Snyder tree well watered.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Pett on January 07, 2011, 02:14:39 PM
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Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: CHONGS on January 07, 2011, 02:16:41 PM
*Crazy and Extremely Pessimistic Chingon Prediction to Follow*

LHC Bill Snyder will be around (still HC) longer than John Currie.  I would not be shocked to see Currie walk if Leavitt is hired, who could blame him?
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: catzacker on January 07, 2011, 02:18:53 PM
Interesting.

Quote
Leavitt's Next Job...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
...will be as an assistant at Kansas State University and his job immediately following that will be as head coach at either K-State or KU.




weird. Who's that from? reputable?


A guy over on GP that is actually pretty solid with his info.

If true, then this means Currie caved on the HCIW idea no?

It probably means that Currie is a moron if he actually believes that after ku fires gill that cheyenne (even with his connections to Leavitt) would hire a coach who was fired from his job for acts that mirrored the ones of the coach that got fired before gill.  It would appear that currie is going to allow himself to get boxed into a corner and hire someone because he's scared that leavitt would go to ku and win, instead of focusing on getting a coach who will win at ksu.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: CNS on January 07, 2011, 02:19:26 PM
*Crazy and Extremely Pessimistic Chingon Prediction to Follow*

LHC Bill Snyder will be around (still HC) longer than John Currie.  I would not be shocked to see Currie walk if Leavitt is hired, who could blame him?

Levitt prob not the final straw.  It will prob be the second or third season where Currie tries to fire Bill and gets blocked.  He will leave once he realizes that no one will let him touch bill.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Pett on January 07, 2011, 02:20:35 PM
Please bring this back Jim. http://twitter.com/#!/jimleavitt

A coach with a twitter account?! :excited:
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 07, 2011, 02:28:07 PM
leavitt will come back here because he is not a total idiot and knows that if he does he will improve the defense and the tards and shirt tucks and old money will want him as coach and currie will hire him because the tards and shirt tucks and old money will want him as coach. if you are currie, you rock the boat as little as possible and then get the eff out while the getting is good. this is going to happen. how depresssing.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: CHONGS on January 07, 2011, 02:34:51 PM
Quote
Keep telling yourself that. There are things Currie is great at and there are a ton of things he has no experience at, like hiring head coaches. First of all, Currie knows better to piss of Snyder and his meaningful supporters. Also, by allowing Snyder to pick his successor, he does not take the blame if it dowen't work out. Currie is too smart to go in against the legend that is Coach Snyder. Let's think about this from Currie's perspective: (1) allow a legendary future hall of fame coach with ties to the industry and knows K-State better than any other person select our next coach, or (2) allow a young 2nd year AD who has never hired a head coach hire K-State's next football coach. Currie is not that arrogant despite what people want to think. The next coach will have Snyder ties.
:blindfold:
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Pett on January 07, 2011, 02:38:02 PM
JFC. Why would he want to come here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WJjz6nFJs0
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: wiley on January 07, 2011, 02:39:10 PM
Didn't we get rid of our old turd regime for two new guys from $EC?  shouldn't this give even a sliver of hope?  I understand the KSU doom and gloom everyone hates us  :goodbyecruelworld: mentality.  But it could change  :dunno:
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 07, 2011, 02:41:47 PM
jfc, i can't stand when people call Bill a legend, especially when they use it in that context.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: wetwillie on January 07, 2011, 02:42:05 PM
Quote
Keep telling yourself that. There are things Currie is great at and there are a ton of things he has no experience at, like hiring head coaches. First of all, Currie knows better to piss of Snyder and his meaningful supporters. Also, by allowing Snyder to pick his successor, he does not take the blame if it dowen't work out. Currie is too smart to go in against the legend that is Coach Snyder. Let's think about this from Currie's perspective: (1) allow a legendary future hall of fame coach with ties to the industry and knows K-State better than any other person select our next coach, or (2) allow a young 2nd year AD who has never hired a head coach hire K-State's next football coach. Currie is not that arrogant despite what people want to think. The next coach will have Snyder ties.
:blindfold:


K-State of the Future     Jim Leavitt HC Sean Snyder OC Tate Snyder LB Coach
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: wiley on January 07, 2011, 02:42:42 PM
Quote
Keep telling yourself that. There are things Currie is great at and there are a ton of things he has no experience at, like hiring head coaches. First of all, Currie knows better to piss of Snyder and his meaningful supporters. Also, by allowing Snyder to pick his successor, he does not take the blame if it dowen't work out. Currie is too smart to go in against the legend that is Coach Snyder. Let's think about this from Currie's perspective: (1) allow a legendary future hall of fame coach with ties to the industry and knows K-State better than any other person select our next coach, or (2) allow a young 2nd year AD who has never hired a head coach hire K-State's next football coach. Currie is not that arrogant despite what people want to think. The next coach will have Snyder ties.
:blindfold:


K-State of the Future     Jim Leavitt HC Sean Snyder OC Tate Snyder LB Coach

I'd turn in my kstate card if 2 of the 3 became true
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 07, 2011, 02:45:02 PM
I'm holding out hope that Leavitt comes in as D-Coord to improve (can't get worse) our Defense.  Then when OB'z is ready to retire, Currie can hire new.  Win-Win for Currie if he has the testicles to fight the gray-hairs. 
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 07, 2011, 02:45:56 PM
Quote
Keep telling yourself that. There are things Currie is great at and there are a ton of things he has no experience at, like hiring head coaches. First of all, Currie knows better to piss of Snyder and his meaningful supporters. Also, by allowing Snyder to pick his successor, he does not take the blame if it dowen't work out. Currie is too smart to go in against the legend that is Coach Snyder. Let's think about this from Currie's perspective: (1) allow a legendary future hall of fame coach with ties to the industry and knows K-State better than any other person select our next coach, or (2) allow a young 2nd year AD who has never hired a head coach hire K-State's next football coach. Currie is not that arrogant despite what people want to think. The next coach will have Snyder ties.
:blindfold:


just looking at snyder's current staff should tell anyone w/ half a brain all they need to know about snyder's ability to hire for a specific job. although it should be easier if the position he is hiring for does not have to actually work for him. either way, the safe bet for all parties is for leavitt to come on board and there you go for the next ten years. hate this.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 07, 2011, 03:05:27 PM
IMO Currie will do everything he can to at least get a significant portion of the athletics side of K-State 2025 going before he bolts . . . if he accomplishes that, he'll be the leading candidate for the biggest AD jobs in college athletics.   Thus, he wil take the path that leads to this happening the fastest.

Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Pete on January 07, 2011, 03:07:43 PM
Mods,

I am kinda sick of reading about this stuff, so can you just change the thread title to "we got him" or "we lost him" or whatev when "it" actually happens.  I'll check back in then, tia.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Sugar Dick on January 07, 2011, 03:11:12 PM
What's hilarious and sad about this board:  The fear of hiring someone with "Snyder Ties" or a "K-State Guy"

Look around the NCAA and identify the successful coaches.  When you realize how many have "Snyder Ties" or could be classified as a "K-State Guy", take a bong rip off your tailpipe and end your life because you are so stupid you can't possibly be of any use to society.

This also goes for anyone who compares Snyder to Prince.  <--  These people are actually dumber than those with the aforementioned 'fraidy cat fear.

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State regardless of their baggage  I don't care if they maliciously ran over someone with their car and framed Joques Crawford, or raped a girl and blamed it on Ell Roberson.  We need to try and win all the games on our schedule and having really good coaches helps do that.


Rant:

Ron Prince won 7 games in the the Big XII therefore he's as good a coach as Urban Meyer who won 7 games this season.  Ignore all other accomplishments, if Prince had Urban Meyers staff and Raheem Morris' wife wasn't a bitch, and Freeman could play both ways he'd be on his way to a NC.  Listen:  Ron Prince is a sh*tty coach, from day 1 til the day the jury lays the verdict on his bogus buyout clause written on a McDonald's napkin.  Stop trying to be a contrarian for the sake of making yourself feel intelligent, I know it's en vogue on goEMAW.com, but this is like the biggest collection of dorks/geaks/losers in all of K-State fandom.  Acting like one makes you one.  STFU.  
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: MeatSauce on January 07, 2011, 03:14:38 PM
What's hilarious and sad about this board:  The fear of hiring someone with "Snyder Ties" or a "K-State Guy"

Look around the NCAA and identify the successful coaches.  When you realize how many have "Snyder Ties" or could be classified as a "K-State Guy", take a bong rip off your tailpipe and end your life because you are so stupid you can't possibly be of any use to society.

This also goes for anyone who compares Snyder to Prince.  <--  These people are actually dumber than those with the aforementioned 'fraidy cat fear.

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State regardless of their baggage  I don't care if they maliciously ran over someone with their car and framed Joques Crawford, or raped a girl and blamed it on Ell Roberson.  We need to try and win all the games on our schedule and having really good coaches helps do that.


Rant:

Ron Prince won 7 games in the the Big XII therefore he's as good a coach as Urban Meyer who won 7 games this season.  Ignore all other accomplishments, if Prince had Urban Meyers staff and Raheem Morris' wife wasn't a bitch, and Freeman could play both ways he'd be on his way to a NC.  Listen:  Ron Prince is a sh*tty coach, from day 1 til the day the jury lays the verdict on his bogus buyout clause written on a McDonald's napkin.  Stop trying to be a contrarian for the sake of making yourself feel intelligent, I know it's en vogue on goEMAW.com, but this is like the biggest collection of dorks/geaks/losers in all of K-State fandom.  Acting like one makes you one.  STFU.  
need a cigarette after that?
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: CHONGS on January 07, 2011, 03:15:13 PM
What's hilarious and sad about this board:  The fear of hiring someone with "Snyder Ties" or a "K-State Guy"

Look around the NCAA and identify the successful coaches.  When you realize how many have "Snyder Ties" or could be classified as a "K-State Guy", take a bong rip off your tailpipe and end your life because you are so stupid you can't possibly be of any use to society.

This also goes for anyone who compares Snyder to Prince.  <--  These people are actually dumber than those with the aforementioned 'fraidy cat fear.

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State regardless of their baggage  I don't care if they maliciously ran over someone with their car and framed Joques Crawford, or raped a girl and blamed it on Ell Roberson.  We need to try and win all the games on our schedule and having really good coaches helps do that.


Rant:

Ron Prince won 7 games in the the Big XII therefore he's as good a coach as Urban Meyer who won 7 games this season.  Ignore all other accomplishments, if Prince had Urban Meyers staff and Raheem Morris' wife wasn't a bitch, and Freeman could play both ways he'd be on his way to a NC.  Listen:  Ron Prince is a sh*tty coach, from day 1 til the day the jury lays the verdict on his bogus buyout clause written on a McDonald's napkin.  Stop trying to be a contrarian for the sake of making yourself feel intelligent, I know it's en vogue on goEMAW.com, but this is like the biggest collection of dorks/geaks/losers in all of K-State fandom.  Acting like one makes you one.  STFU.  
Without addressing the rest of your straw-burning, list all of the successes AND failures from the Snyder coaching tree.  Then we can see if insisting a new hire to be part of the Snyder tree is better than running an actual coaching search.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Sugar Dick on January 07, 2011, 03:18:49 PM
What's hilarious and sad about this board:  The fear of hiring someone with "Snyder Ties" or a "K-State Guy"

Look around the NCAA and identify the successful coaches.  When you realize how many have "Snyder Ties" or could be classified as a "K-State Guy", take a bong rip off your tailpipe and end your life because you are so stupid you can't possibly be of any use to society.

This also goes for anyone who compares Snyder to Prince.  <--  These people are actually dumber than those with the aforementioned 'fraidy cat fear.

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State regardless of their baggage  I don't care if they maliciously ran over someone with their car and framed Joques Crawford, or raped a girl and blamed it on Ell Roberson.  We need to try and win all the games on our schedule and having really good coaches helps do that.


Rant:

Ron Prince won 7 games in the the Big XII therefore he's as good a coach as Urban Meyer who won 7 games this season.  Ignore all other accomplishments, if Prince had Urban Meyers staff and Raheem Morris' wife wasn't a bitch, and Freeman could play both ways he'd be on his way to a NC.  Listen:  Ron Prince is a sh*tty coach, from day 1 til the day the jury lays the verdict on his bogus buyout clause written on a McDonald's napkin.  Stop trying to be a contrarian for the sake of making yourself feel intelligent, I know it's en vogue on goEMAW.com, but this is like the biggest collection of dorks/geaks/losers in all of K-State fandom.  Acting like one makes you one.  STFU.  
Without addressing the rest of your straw-burning, list all of the successes AND failures from the Snyder coaching tree.  Then we can see if insisting a new hire to be part of the Snyder tree is better than running an actual coaching search.

Google: "Snyder coaching tree"

Straw = "AND failures"

F*ck you,
SD
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Panjandrum on January 07, 2011, 03:25:55 PM
Quote
Keep telling yourself that. There are things Currie is great at and there are a ton of things he has no experience at, like hiring head coaches. First of all, Currie knows better to piss of Snyder and his meaningful supporters. Also, by allowing Snyder to pick his successor, he does not take the blame if it dowen't work out. Currie is too smart to go in against the legend that is Coach Snyder. Let's think about this from Currie's perspective: (1) allow a legendary future hall of fame coach with ties to the industry and knows K-State better than any other person select our next coach, or (2) allow a young 2nd year AD who has never hired a head coach hire K-State's next football coach. Currie is not that arrogant despite what people want to think. The next coach will have Snyder ties.
:blindfold:


If I think I know where you got that from, I can almost guess the nard that wrote that.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Rams on January 07, 2011, 03:28:35 PM
What's hilarious and sad about this board:  The fear of hiring someone with "Snyder Ties" or a "K-State Guy"

Look around the NCAA and identify the successful coaches.  When you realize how many have "Snyder Ties" or could be classified as a "K-State Guy", take a bong rip off your tailpipe and end your life because you are so stupid you can't possibly be of any use to society.

This also goes for anyone who compares Snyder to Prince.  <--  These people are actually dumber than those with the aforementioned 'fraidy cat fear.

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State regardless of their baggage  I don't care if they maliciously ran over someone with their car and framed Joques Crawford, or raped a girl and blamed it on Ell Roberson.  We need to try and win all the games on our schedule and having really good coaches helps do that.


Rant:

Ron Prince won 7 games in the the Big XII therefore he's as good a coach as Urban Meyer who won 7 games this season.  Ignore all other accomplishments, if Prince had Urban Meyers staff and Raheem Morris' wife wasn't a bitch, and Freeman could play both ways he'd be on his way to a NC.  Listen:  Ron Prince is a sh*tty coach, from day 1 til the day the jury lays the verdict on his bogus buyout clause written on a McDonald's napkin.  Stop trying to be a contrarian for the sake of making yourself feel intelligent, I know it's en vogue on goEMAW.com, but this is like the biggest collection of dorks/geaks/losers in all of K-State fandom.  Acting like one makes you one.  STFU.  
Did this just murder this rough ridin' thread or bring it back to life?

 :users:  :popcorn:
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: DQ12 on January 07, 2011, 03:29:13 PM
I'd be okay with Leavitt as our next head coach.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: CHONGS on January 07, 2011, 03:29:31 PM
What's hilarious and sad about this board:  The fear of hiring someone with "Snyder Ties" or a "K-State Guy"

Look around the NCAA and identify the successful coaches.  When you realize how many have "Snyder Ties" or could be classified as a "K-State Guy", take a bong rip off your tailpipe and end your life because you are so stupid you can't possibly be of any use to society.

This also goes for anyone who compares Snyder to Prince.  <--  These people are actually dumber than those with the aforementioned 'fraidy cat fear.

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State regardless of their baggage  I don't care if they maliciously ran over someone with their car and framed Joques Crawford, or raped a girl and blamed it on Ell Roberson.  We need to try and win all the games on our schedule and having really good coaches helps do that.


Rant:

Ron Prince won 7 games in the the Big XII therefore he's as good a coach as Urban Meyer who won 7 games this season.  Ignore all other accomplishments, if Prince had Urban Meyers staff and Raheem Morris' wife wasn't a bitch, and Freeman could play both ways he'd be on his way to a NC.  Listen:  Ron Prince is a sh*tty coach, from day 1 til the day the jury lays the verdict on his bogus buyout clause written on a McDonald's napkin.  Stop trying to be a contrarian for the sake of making yourself feel intelligent, I know it's en vogue on goEMAW.com, but this is like the biggest collection of dorks/geaks/losers in all of K-State fandom.  Acting like one makes you one.  STFU. 
Without addressing the rest of your straw-burning, list all of the successes AND failures from the Snyder coaching tree.  Then we can see if insisting a new hire to be part of the Snyder tree is better than running an actual coaching search.

Google: "Snyder coaching tree"

Straw = "AND failures"

F*ck you,
SD
We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State.  Full stop.  The fear is that we are limiting our search to ONLY within the Snyder tree.  I don't think choosing from this limited pool of applicants is as good as conducting an actual national coaching search.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Panjandrum on January 07, 2011, 03:32:04 PM
We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State.  Full stop.  The fear is that we are limiting our search to ONLY within the Snyder tree.  I don't think choosing from this limited pool of applicants is as good as conducting an actual national coaching search.

I just look forward to the day that the only Snyder you see on game day is the name on the side of the stadium and the press box.

I'm sick of him and his cronies holding this University and Athletic Department hostage.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Sugar Dick on January 07, 2011, 03:32:44 PM
What's hilarious and sad about this board:  The fear of hiring someone with "Snyder Ties" or a "K-State Guy"

Look around the NCAA and identify the successful coaches.  When you realize how many have "Snyder Ties" or could be classified as a "K-State Guy", take a bong rip off your tailpipe and end your life because you are so stupid you can't possibly be of any use to society.

This also goes for anyone who compares Snyder to Prince.  <--  These people are actually dumber than those with the aforementioned 'fraidy cat fear.

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State regardless of their baggage  I don't care if they maliciously ran over someone with their car and framed Joques Crawford, or raped a girl and blamed it on Ell Roberson.  We need to try and win all the games on our schedule and having really good coaches helps do that.


Rant:

Ron Prince won 7 games in the the Big XII therefore he's as good a coach as Urban Meyer who won 7 games this season.  Ignore all other accomplishments, if Prince had Urban Meyers staff and Raheem Morris' wife wasn't a bitch, and Freeman could play both ways he'd be on his way to a NC.  Listen:  Ron Prince is a sh*tty coach, from day 1 til the day the jury lays the verdict on his bogus buyout clause written on a McDonald's napkin.  Stop trying to be a contrarian for the sake of making yourself feel intelligent, I know it's en vogue on goEMAW.com, but this is like the biggest collection of dorks/geaks/losers in all of K-State fandom.  Acting like one makes you one.  STFU. 
Without addressing the rest of your straw-burning, list all of the successes AND failures from the Snyder coaching tree.  Then we can see if insisting a new hire to be part of the Snyder tree is better than running an actual coaching search.

Google: "Snyder coaching tree"

Straw = "AND failures"

F*ck you,
SD
We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State.  Full stop.  The fear is that we are limiting our search to ONLY within the Snyder tree.  I don't think choosing from this limited pool of applicants is as good as conducting an actual national coaching search.

Concur.

On the flip side:  systematically excluding those with Snyder Ties just because they have Snyder ties from the pool (thereby reducing its size) = irrational and paranoid
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: O-town Kat on January 07, 2011, 03:34:01 PM
I wonder if Bill knows how dysfunctional his Kansas State family is right now on the computers and technology things out there.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 07, 2011, 03:34:19 PM
What's hilarious and sad about this board:  The fear of hiring someone with "Snyder Ties" or a "K-State Guy"

Look around the NCAA and identify the successful coaches.  When you realize how many have "Snyder Ties" or could be classified as a "K-State Guy", take a bong rip off your tailpipe and end your life because you are so stupid you can't possibly be of any use to society.

This also goes for anyone who compares Snyder to Prince.  <--  These people are actually dumber than those with the aforementioned 'fraidy cat fear.

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State regardless of their baggage  I don't care if they maliciously ran over someone with their car and framed Joques Crawford, or raped a girl and blamed it on Ell Roberson.  We need to try and win all the games on our schedule and having really good coaches helps do that.


Rant:

Ron Prince won 7 games in the the Big XII therefore he's as good a coach as Urban Meyer who won 7 games this season.  Ignore all other accomplishments, if Prince had Urban Meyers staff and Raheem Morris' wife wasn't a bitch, and Freeman could play both ways he'd be on his way to a NC.  Listen:  Ron Prince is a sh*tty coach, from day 1 til the day the jury lays the verdict on his bogus buyout clause written on a McDonald's napkin.  Stop trying to be a contrarian for the sake of making yourself feel intelligent, I know it's en vogue on goEMAW.com, but this is like the biggest collection of dorks/geaks/losers in all of K-State fandom.  Acting like one makes you one.  STFU. 
Without addressing the rest of your straw-burning, list all of the successes AND failures from the Snyder coaching tree.  Then we can see if insisting a new hire to be part of the Snyder tree is better than running an actual coaching search.

Google: "Snyder coaching tree"

Straw = "AND failures"

F*ck you,
SD
We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State.  Full stop.  The fear is that we are limiting our search to ONLY within the Snyder tree.  I don't think choosing from this limited pool of applicants is as good as conducting an actual national coaching search.

Concur.

On the flip side:  systematically excluding those with Snyder Ties just because they have Snyder ties from the pool (thereby reducing its size) = irrational and paranoid

what coach is being excluded because of his snyder ties?
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Sugar Dick on January 07, 2011, 03:34:29 PM
What's hilarious and sad about this board:  The fear of hiring someone with "Snyder Ties" or a "K-State Guy"

Look around the NCAA and identify the successful coaches.  When you realize how many have "Snyder Ties" or could be classified as a "K-State Guy", take a bong rip off your tailpipe and end your life because you are so stupid you can't possibly be of any use to society.

This also goes for anyone who compares Snyder to Prince.  <--  These people are actually dumber than those with the aforementioned 'fraidy cat fear.

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State regardless of their baggage  I don't care if they maliciously ran over someone with their car and framed Joques Crawford, or raped a girl and blamed it on Ell Roberson.  We need to try and win all the games on our schedule and having really good coaches helps do that.


Rant:

Ron Prince won 7 games in the the Big XII therefore he's as good a coach as Urban Meyer who won 7 games this season.  Ignore all other accomplishments, if Prince had Urban Meyers staff and Raheem Morris' wife wasn't a bitch, and Freeman could play both ways he'd be on his way to a NC.  Listen:  Ron Prince is a sh*tty coach, from day 1 til the day the jury lays the verdict on his bogus buyout clause written on a McDonald's napkin.  Stop trying to be a contrarian for the sake of making yourself feel intelligent, I know it's en vogue on goEMAW.com, but this is like the biggest collection of dorks/geaks/losers in all of K-State fandom.  Acting like one makes you one.  STFU.  
Did this just murder this effing thread or bring it back to life?

 :users:  :popcorn:

My aim, per usual, was murder, with recitation as an acceptable consequence
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Panjandrum on January 07, 2011, 03:35:03 PM
I wonder if Bill knows how dysfunctional his Kansas State family is right now on the computers and technology things out there.

His grandson is back in school and can't fetch him the Internet.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Sugar Dick on January 07, 2011, 03:36:13 PM
What's hilarious and sad about this board:  The fear of hiring someone with "Snyder Ties" or a "K-State Guy"

Look around the NCAA and identify the successful coaches.  When you realize how many have "Snyder Ties" or could be classified as a "K-State Guy", take a bong rip off your tailpipe and end your life because you are so stupid you can't possibly be of any use to society.

This also goes for anyone who compares Snyder to Prince.  <--  These people are actually dumber than those with the aforementioned 'fraidy cat fear.

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State regardless of their baggage  I don't care if they maliciously ran over someone with their car and framed Joques Crawford, or raped a girl and blamed it on Ell Roberson.  We need to try and win all the games on our schedule and having really good coaches helps do that.


Rant:

Ron Prince won 7 games in the the Big XII therefore he's as good a coach as Urban Meyer who won 7 games this season.  Ignore all other accomplishments, if Prince had Urban Meyers staff and Raheem Morris' wife wasn't a bitch, and Freeman could play both ways he'd be on his way to a NC.  Listen:  Ron Prince is a sh*tty coach, from day 1 til the day the jury lays the verdict on his bogus buyout clause written on a McDonald's napkin.  Stop trying to be a contrarian for the sake of making yourself feel intelligent, I know it's en vogue on goEMAW.com, but this is like the biggest collection of dorks/geaks/losers in all of K-State fandom.  Acting like one makes you one.  STFU. 
Without addressing the rest of your straw-burning, list all of the successes AND failures from the Snyder coaching tree.  Then we can see if insisting a new hire to be part of the Snyder tree is better than running an actual coaching search.

Google: "Snyder coaching tree"

Straw = "AND failures"

F*ck you,
SD
We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State.  Full stop.  The fear is that we are limiting our search to ONLY within the Snyder tree.  I don't think choosing from this limited pool of applicants is as good as conducting an actual national coaching search.

Concur.

On the flip side:  systematically excluding those with Snyder Ties just because they have Snyder ties from the pool (thereby reducing its size) = irrational and paranoid

what coach is being excluded because of his snyder ties?

Not sure, not involved in the nonexistent coaching search.

Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: sys on January 07, 2011, 03:39:09 PM
LHC Bill Snyder will be around (still HC) longer than John Currie.  I would not be shocked to see Currie walk if Leavitt is hired, who could blame him?

IMO Currie will do everything he can to at least get a significant portion of the athletics side of K-State 2025 going before he bolts . . . if he accomplishes that, he'll be the leading candidate for the biggest AD jobs in college athletics.   Thus, he wil take the path that leads to this happening the fastest.

currie is ambitious and will be interested in, and would leave for, any clearly better ad job that opens up.  that has nothing to do with leavitt being hired or not.  he just wants to move up.

firing snyder would be a huge risk for him.  no potential employer would blame him for retaining uberpopular snyder to eternity no matter the results, whereas if he hires a failure, that'll look bad.

Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: CNS on January 07, 2011, 03:40:19 PM
If Currie does well here, then Tenn may hire him back after Dooley craps out.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: CHONGS on January 07, 2011, 03:42:53 PM
LHC Bill Snyder will be around (still HC) longer than John Currie.  I would not be shocked to see Currie walk if Leavitt is hired, who could blame him?

IMO Currie will do everything he can to at least get a significant portion of the athletics side of K-State 2025 going before he bolts . . . if he accomplishes that, he'll be the leading candidate for the biggest AD jobs in college athletics.   Thus, he wil take the path that leads to this happening the fastest.

currie is ambitious and will be interested in, and would leave for, any clearly better ad job that opens up.  that has nothing to do with leavitt being hired or not.  he just wants to move up.

firing snyder would be a huge risk for him.  no potential employer would blame him for retaining uberpopular snyder to eternity no matter the results, whereas if he hires a failure, that'll look bad.


It's not about firing, it's about him being neutered against being able to make a hire.  I mean if K-State of all places doesn't trust you enough to hire a football coach, what better job will see that as a good thing?
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: MadCat on January 07, 2011, 03:47:18 PM
I wonder if Bill knows how dysfunctional his Kansas State family is right now on the computers and technology things out there.

His grandson is back in school and can't fetch him the Internet.

Bill is probably just sitting in his office, staring at a wall, waiting for Tate to come back to Vanier to set the time on his VCR.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Pett on January 07, 2011, 03:52:44 PM
LOL. KU fans freaking out:

http://boards.kusports.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1846411&Main=1846084

(I know the thread is from October but these Leavitt rumors pretty much started then.)
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: MadCat on January 07, 2011, 03:56:52 PM
Prediction: Phil Bennett is going to have a rough day on October 1, 2011.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: sys on January 07, 2011, 04:26:09 PM
It's not about firing, it's about him being neutered against being able to make a hire.  I mean if K-State of all places doesn't trust you enough to hire a football coach, what better job will see that as a good thing?

w. re. to firgin snyder, the better job would see it as completely understandable to not fire a kstate demigod, irregardless of current results (for as long as the fanbase continues to see him as a demigod).

re. not being allowed to replace snyder with his own choice, if snyder voluntarily steps down, i agree with pesso chingon that currie plans to be gone before that happens so he doesn't care.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: CNS on January 07, 2011, 05:17:04 PM
Really wish bret bielema would choke some kid out.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: PowercatPat on January 07, 2011, 05:29:55 PM
The tards on kstatefans are confirming the rumors as well.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: chum1 on January 07, 2011, 05:36:41 PM
i'd be okay with jim as coach only if we hire him in our usual rash and desperate way.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: wetwillie on January 07, 2011, 06:18:12 PM
Really wish bret bielema would choke some kid out.

I can see Currie threatening to or actually trying to use this as a tool to get rid of leavitt if/when the old regime tries to usher in Leavitt as HC.  Needs to get BITB Perkins on the phone for tricks of the trade.

We need a walk on plant next year that will if ever necessary come forward with a terror story of Jim beating him within an inch of his life, ripping is limbs off, etc.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: ednksu on January 07, 2011, 07:33:02 PM
No one in this thread has ever enumerated why Jim would be a bad fit.  Its all been irrational paranoia typical of goEMAW

He had amazing defenses here, right?
He made a nationally relevant team in an environment none of you, unless you are a Floridian, understand.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: catzacker on January 07, 2011, 08:02:36 PM
No one in this thread has ever enumerated why Jim would be a bad fit.  Its all been irrational paranoia typical of goEMAW

He had amazing defenses here, right?
He made a nationally relevant team in an environment none of you, unless you are a Floridian, understand.

in a horrible league, he went 25-26 in conference, his final two years in conference weren't above .500.  he struck a player and then told other players and coaches to change their stories, then was fired for it . he's 54 years old.  (btw, he made usf nationally relevant for about one week, then promptly lost 4 of his next 7 games - the only national relevance he has now is that he got fired for hitting a kid).
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: AbeFroman on January 07, 2011, 09:13:16 PM
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Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Rams on January 07, 2011, 09:24:07 PM
This thread is so rough ridin' depressing.  Between this and "Old Snyder"... :goodbyecruelworld:

You know what...eff everybody.  I'm convinced that Snyder's going hire JL to come in and turn the D around.  We'll redshirt Sams next year and Tuggle will make for good bbs'ing and we'll end up having another meh year where we make some shitty bowl.  Currie taps Snyder on the shoulder when the season is over and says, "it's time........it's time."  Snyder announces midway through the next slightly less meh season that it will be his last.  Currie mounts a national search and ends up hiring some hot young stud offensive coordinator with a shitload of energy from a major school that walks into a situation where he's got Sams with 3 years of eligibility left.  By his third year at the helm ESPN starts referring to us as the Oregon of the plains and Sams is a Heisman candidate.

There's not a damn thing that any of you can say to change my mind, so eff all of you.   :bigtoke:

WHO'S WITH ME!!!??!?!
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: O-town Kat on January 07, 2011, 09:52:37 PM
Sean will replace Rahne, Burns will get promoted to co-DC.  Thank you and good night.   :blindfold:
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2011, 09:59:32 PM
Sean will replace Rahne, Burns will get promoted to co-DC.  Thank you and good night.   :blindfold:

I wish on the burns part  :blindfold:
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2011, 10:11:42 PM
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Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 07, 2011, 10:23:17 PM
Fitz has obviously learned his lesson since It's Patterson.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 07, 2011, 10:36:46 PM
Sean will replace Rahne, Burns will get promoted to co-DC.  Thank you and good night.   :blindfold:

I wish on the burns part  :blindfold:

co-DC would be the logical promotion for burns but even if it doesn't happen i'm sure snyder is smart enough to make sure he's happy and stays very involved on the current staff.
Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: DQ12 on January 07, 2011, 10:50:17 PM
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Title: Re: why not Jim?
Post by: "storm"nut on January 07, 2011, 10:53:07 PM
Sean will replace Rahne, Burns will get promoted to co-DC.  Thank you and good night.   :blindfold:

Burns is leaving. The snyder coaching tree doesn't allow for new branches.