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Big shout out to Hispanic Basketball Player loving DocNaismith (aka the guy who stole the idea of the game of Basketball) of Phog.net aka Tardville for bringing this to the forefront of discussion back on Phog.net aka Tardville.
This is an attempt to recap the Tony Mitchell eligibility situation.
To fully understand the current Tony Mitchell saga you have to go back to Dallas in 2005 and 2006. The Dallas school district has long been notorious for improper academic treatment of star athletes and at that time Darrell Arthur, Kevin Rogers and Kandrake Johnigan all had transcripts altered to portray them having passed core classes required for base qualification as an NCAA student athlete. They used this information to defraud the NCAA, as well as on an annual basis falsify documents attesting to the validity of their transcripts which voided their eligibility. This blew up in the NCAA’s face in 2008 when it was revealed that not only did they allow these athletes to incorrectly pass through the Clearinghouse but it was exposed that the 2008 title game was possibly the most shameful in NCAA history in that the leading scorer for each team was actually an ineligible player, the winner was on major probation for cheating, and per NCAA rules the combined records of the two programs should have been 0-79. This story was broken and followed through by a highly decorated investigative journalist named Brett Shipp of WFAA-TV. It is also inherent in the back story to understand the NCAA. Not only is it not obligated to answer to anyone or justify its actions in any capacity, those who think its function is to serve and police the member institutions and look out for the well being of the student athletes are sorely mislead.
“What people need to realize about the NCAA is that it is not a sports organization by any means,'' says Brent Clark, an Oklahoma lawyer and former NCAA investigator who has studied the association for more than 30 years. ``It's an economic cartel dedicated to preserving the product.''
The NCAA reacts to public pressure and negative press, and that is about it. If there isn’t a widespread public outcry or bad press that treatment is being handled in embarrassingly bad fashion the NCAA is under no obligation to do anything. And unless there is financial motivation to act, they won’t. MU is historically bad at creating this pressure and following through on it, and accordingly they have been treated historically bad in virtually every ruling or decision the NCAA has made regarding MU. Be that getting hammered in 1990 despite an investigation that essentially uncovered bad oversight and recordkeeping (which is detailed and gives interesting perspective into the process of the time in the book Stormin Back, the absurd ruling of ineligibility for Uche Okafor in 2002, or MU officials not going to bat for the program in 2004 and letting the NCAA make an example out of Quin Snyder by rolling up numerous minor violations and calling it a major violations in conjuncture with uncharacteristically harsh penalties (this time there was mounting public pressure, but it was pushing the NCAA to act even though it wasn’t uncovering anything because area newspapers were constantly keeping the focus on the pending investigation).
So with that backdrop, back in 2009 a rising recruit with a pretty sketchy transcript named Tony Mitchell made a visit to KSU and signed on the spot. Frank Martin and staff immediately redirected young Tony to Florida to enroll in the Center of Life academy, where Martin still wields tremendous influence in the community from his time as a high school powerhouse coach. Center of Life Academy is a private school accredited by a home schooling association, and is essentially a diploma mill and basketball factory, although historically the NCAA has accepted graduates from the school as being qualified for D1 play. Mitchell cleans up his transcripts there, but at the same time his mother is very displeased about what she feels like was a situation of her son being taken advantage of by KSU and convinces him to de-commit (it is widely and falsely believed by KSU fans that MU had something to do with this, as they were not involved with Tony Mitchell in any capacity at that point and they are confusing the situation with when Mike Anderson successfully out-recruited Steffon Hannah from Bob Huggins by convincing his mother MU was the place to send her son). No longer associated with KSU, Mitchell transfers back home to Dallas and enrolls in Pinkston.
As a private school accredited through home schooling, the DISD does not recognize Center of Life Academy credits, so as is customary practice Mitchell takes tests to demonstrate proficiency in the classes taken to essentially earn the credits that Pinkston does not accept from Center of Life. He passes all classes and is considered a senior in good standing.
This is where investigative reporter Brett Shipp re-enters the picture. Someone (and several inside sources have strongly alluded to the possibility of a member of the KSU basketball staff being that someone) improperly floats the information to Shipp that Tony Mitchell’s proficiency testing and academic history might have been questionable. Completely miffed that the NCAA took no action on his conclusive past reporting on a similar subject, he undergoes a similar campaign on exposing the Mitchell situation. He writes that 8 of the 14 credits Mitchell brought with him back to Dallas from Florida were not accepted and were thus tested out of through proficiency tests (as is completely standard and normal) and using inflammatory wording claims:
“he took the equivalent of nine course make-up exams in two days — five of them over a two-hour period. Mitchell passed every test, and — in just a matter of hours — went from being a freshman at Pinkston to qualifying as a senior.”
Again there is nothing odd about this at all, of course a proficiency test would take a matter of hours and of course being given credit for the classes one has taken as a sophomore and a junior that did not transfer initially would then give them the credits to move from a freshman to a senior. The DISD panics from the bad publicity and throws the scores of the proficiency tests out. Shipp goes on to write that Mitchell had numerous unexcused absences on his record, but again portrays it in the most inflammatory way possible by listing the amount of hours of absences instead of days and not clarify what the number represents (for example instead of saying Mitchell has 2 day of unexcused absence he would write he missed 14 classes).
Mitchell retakes all of the TAKS testing (Texas Assessment of Knowledge and Skills), and under careful supervision to confirm the validity passes all sections with one exception. He fails the math portion by 1 point. Because he no longer has all of the required core classes for graduation, he does not graduate with his class in the spring.
From there it gets kind of murky, because much like the Dallas reporter the public shouldn’t have access to specifics about a high school kids academic record. It has been widely alluded to that Mitchell has since passed the math portion of the TAKS. He also received an ACT score high enough to qualify, but that is a somewhat arbitrary number as the NCAA uses a sliding scale and requires different minimum ACT scores dependant on successful class work. If the NCAA determines some of Mitchell’s class work isn’t valid then he might need a higher ACT score to compensate. There is also the issue that potentially the NCAA will determine one of the core required classes is in question, in which case Mitchell would not be eligible unless he were to pass that class (similar to DeAndre Thomas who signed with MU in 2005. He had a good GPA and a good ACT score, but didn’t take the required core classes and had to go the JUCO route). But more so the NCAA wields no real official power and if they are requesting clarification and documentation from the Center of Life Academy they don’t have any way to force their hand if they are not cooperating.
It has currently been alleged that KSU is continuing to hold a grudge, and that Martin is using his considerable influence in the area to ask that the school he specifically placed Mitchell at to get him qualify be uncooperative with the NCAA and continue to drag their feet. If that is the case, there likely won’t be a resolution to the situation.
The aspect the NCAA is likely banking on is that by continuing to not render a decision of any capacity, they are essentially avoiding any responsibility. It was reported in numerous instances during his senior year of high school that Mitchell would have been a strong candidate for jumping to the NBA had the rule change not been implemented barring freshman from participating in the draft. A delay of a couple more weeks will be the same as an ineligible ruling as Mitchell will have missed the deadline to enroll in classes for the second semester and will be eligible for the upcoming NBA draft. It’s a far cry from the Josh Selby situation at ku, where every article mentioned him and ku was continuing to push the pending decision into the spotlight. MU is largely taking the position of ‘no comment’, and the NCAA is accordingly doing nothing.
There is precedence for a high profile MU athlete gaining eligibility this late in the process, as one of our 4 McDonald’s All American’s MU has ever signed, Travon Bryant, was not declared eligible to play until late December several days before the Braggin Rights game. However, the difference being that Bryant was actually taking classes at Maine Central Institute and the delay was completing and being graded for those classes to meet minimum requirements. By most accounts, Mitchell isn’t doing anything other than simply waiting on the NCAA to rule with the information they already have. Nothing in terms of his material status is going to change in any capacity. Someone simply needs to look at the information available and render a decision.
And my money is on that not happening.[/i]
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Big shout out to Hispanic Basketball Player loving DocNaismith (aka the guy who stole the idea of the game of Basketball) of Phog.net aka Tardville for bringing this to the forefront of discussion back on Phog.net aka Tardville.
Before I sit down to read this tome of a post I wanted to say how much I get a kick out of dax posting in the above style.
t-y
steve dave
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Do you think Hispanic (just pointed this out so DocNaismith would feel at ease) K-State Headcoach Frank Martin still welds "considerable influence" in Miami??
He's been gone for 6-7-8 years now hasn't he??
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Do you think Hispanic (just pointed this out so DocNaismith would feel at ease) K-State Headcoach Frank Martin still welds "considerable influence" in Miami??
He's been gone for 6-7-8 years now hasn't he??
eff yes, he runs that place
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ok...who wrote what? your use of italics confused me
Also, link? tia
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ok...who wrote what? your use of italics confused me
Also, link? tia
fiji. anytime a post on tigerboard runs longer than 3 sentences, it's fiji.
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ok...who wrote what? your use of italics confused me
Also, link? tia
Tigerboard/FijiTiger explains Tony Mitchell:
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dax tell me what you are trying to do, and I will fix your horrid formatting mistakes.
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When we play Mizzou at home we need "Tony Mitchell :dunno:" signs
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Do you think Hispanic (just pointed this out so DocNaismith would feel at ease) K-State Headcoach Frank Martin still welds "considerable influence" in Miami??
He's been gone for 6-7-8 years now hasn't he??
eff yes, he runs that place
And if any of this is true, I applaud Frank Martin for using his mafioso-like talents to block Tony Mitchell from playing at another Big 12 institution.
In the future, all players like this need to be funneled to Alabama.
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but at the same time his mother is very displeased about what she feels like was a situation of her son being taken advantage of by KSU
pretty unfamiliar to this situation, can someone fill me in on what this means?
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Big shout out to Hispanic Basketball Player loving DocNaismith (aka the guy who stole the idea of the game of Basketball) of Phog.net aka Tardville for bringing this to the forefront of discussion back on Phog.net aka Tardville.
This is an attempt to recap the Tony Mitchell eligibility situation.
...back in 2009 a rising recruit with a pretty sketchy transcript named Tony Mitchell made a visit to KSU and signed on the spot.
so, how the eff did Mitchell "sign on the spot" when he wasn't able to "sign" by NCAA guidelines at that point?
It makes me distrustful of this font of vast knowledge if he is so stupid as to put that up front in his post.
Just sayin'.
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but at the same time his mother is very displeased about what she feels like was a situation of her son being taken advantage of by KSU
pretty unfamiliar to this situation, can someone fill me in on what this means?
you don't recall when his mother decommitted mitchell?
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but at the same time his mother is very displeased about what she feels like was a situation of her son being taken advantage of by KSU
pretty unfamiliar to this situation, can someone fill me in on what this means?
Tony Mitchell's mother was a non-factor in his recruitment until, out of nowhere, she yanked her kid out of CLA, brought him back to Dallas, and then basically took control of his recruitment and blocked KSU from recruiting him.
There's a lot more to this story in the form of rumor an innuendo, but part of that rumor that Tigerboard conveniently left out was that she was kind of an absentee mother who happened to pop back into his life when he hit it big on the AAU scene. The KSU side of the rumor is that she brought him back to Dallas so she could exert control over his recruitment and then request payment in some fashion or another.
So, yeah, there are two rumors to this tale that are both completely unsubstantiated but equally likely.
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but at the same time his mother is very displeased about what she feels like was a situation of her son being taken advantage of by KSU
pretty unfamiliar to this situation, can someone fill me in on what this means?
you don't recall when his mother decommitted mitchell?
nope I hadn't found the world of bbsing at that point.
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His mother is a hoot on facebook.....
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Tony Mitchell's mother was a non-factor in his recruitment until, out of nowhere, she yanked her kid out of CLA, brought him back to Dallas, and then basically took control of his recruitment and blocked KSU from recruiting him.
technically, she decommitted him, and indicated a strong anti-kstate stance, several months before mitchell's year at cla ended. kstate continued to recruit mitchell through july of that summer, and it was an open question where mitchell would attend school until either july or august.
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but at the same time his mother is very displeased about what she feels like was a situation of her son being taken advantage of by KSU
pretty unfamiliar to this situation, can someone fill me in on what this means?
Tony Mitchell's mother was a non-factor in his recruitment until, out of nowhere, she yanked her kid out of CLA, brought him back to Dallas, and then basically took control of his recruitment and blocked KSU from recruiting him.
There's a lot more to this story in the form of rumor an innuendo, but part of that rumor that Tigerboard conveniently left out was that she was kind of an absentee mother who happened to pop back into his life when he hit it big on the AAU scene. The KSU side of the rumor is that she brought him back to Dallas so she could exert control over his recruitment and then request payment in some fashion or another.
So, yeah, there are two rumors to this tale that are both completely unsubstantiated but equally likely.
I should probably qualify all of this by saying it's probably a combination of both, and neither of them as bad as either side made it out to be.
If I had to venture a guess, we found Tony early, knew his transcript would be a mess, so we sent him to a diploma mill in Florida where we could 'keep him safe'. His mother, who apparently never had a problem with that until Tony became a five star prospect (since Tony actually moved to Miami after all; how this happened if she didn't approve of it is beyond me), probably thought her son deserved to explore his options and didn't want him to feel beholden to a particular school, especially if other opportunities arose. Therefore, she brought him back home and opened his recruitment.
See, the funny thing about this that never added up was the fact that Tony was allowed to go to Miami in the first place. If his mother had a problem with her son going to CLA, and we were the ones that placed him there (if that is in fact true), why did she ultimately have a problem with it after he blew up? If she was in his life and hated the decision that much, how was he allowed to go there in the first place?
THAT is what makes all of this really sketchy. This kid was radioactive in two ways: grades and family. Once she yanked him back to Dallas, the odds of him playing college ball basically went to hell at that point.
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Tony Mitchell's mother was a non-factor in his recruitment until, out of nowhere, she yanked her kid out of CLA, brought him back to Dallas, and then basically took control of his recruitment and blocked KSU from recruiting him.
technically, she decommitted him, and indicated a strong anti-kstate stance, several months before mitchell's year at cla ended. kstate continued to recruit mitchell through july of that summer, and it was an open question where mitchell would attend school until either july or august.
But here's the thing that I don't get...
If she was strong anti-KSU, and we placed him at CLA per the rumor, how did that situation ever happen in the first place. That's where none of this adds up.
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But here's the thing that I don't get...
If she was strong anti-KSU, and we placed him at CLA per the rumor, how did that situation ever happen in the first place. That's where none of this adds up.
kstate placing mitchell as cla is not rumor, it is known.
there's a lot more about mitchell's situation that i'd like to know. so, unfortunately, i can't really answer that question. it is known, however, that mitchell was not living with his mother (in either dallas or milwaukee) during his soph year. he attend a mys school in atlanta as a sophomore. his freshman year, he attended a public dallas area school (south grand prairie, i believe), but i don't know if he was living with his mother at that point in time or not.
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well, I can tell you where he came from originally if anyone wants to know.....
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dax tell me what you are trying to do, and I will fix your horrid formatting mistakes.
Chin, my work laptop browser hates this boards format when it comes to some things, very weird . . . all very :ck:
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well, I can tell you where he came from originally if anyone wants to know.....
Would love to know.
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'Pad, are you still banned on Tardville?
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'Pad, are you still banned on Tardville?
Sure. I am merely a :users:
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It is common knowledge that Toni's mom got money from a MU booster.
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It is common knowledge that Toni's mom got money from a MU booster.
Limestone, take that to Tigerboard and see what the reaction is . . .
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well, I can tell you where he came from originally if anyone wants to know.....
For the love of god why couldn't there be video of this?
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well, I can tell you where he came from originally if anyone wants to know.....
For the love of god why couldn't there be video of this?
... and then the camera pans to Frank and Undy doing :facepalm:
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It is common knowledge that Toni's mom got money from a MU booster.
Limestone, take that to Tigerboard and see what the reaction is . . .
It would be the exact same reaction as it would be over here if I mentioned that Beasley/Walker were a "package deal."
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well, I can tell you where he came from originally if anyone wants to know.....
For the love of god why couldn't there be video of this?
... and then the camera pans to Frank and Undy doing :facepalm:
:lol:
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It is common knowledge that Toni's mom got money from a MU booster.
Limestone, take that to Tigerboard and see what the reaction is . . .
It would be the exact same reaction as it would be over here if I mentioned that Beasley/Walker were a "package deal."
:lol:
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It is common knowledge that Toni's mom got money from a MU booster.
Limestone, take that to Tigerboard and see what the reaction is . . .
It would be the exact same reaction as it would be over here if I mentioned that Beasley/Walker were a "package deal."
Pretty sure we embrace the fact that this happened.
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well, I can tell you where he came from originally if anyone wants to know.....
Would love to know.
That "nigga cam from [his mother's] pussy." As in "[she] birthed that mother rough rider."
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It is common knowledge that Toni's mom got money from a MU booster.
Limestone, take that to Tigerboard and see what the reaction is . . .
It would be the exact same reaction as it would be over here if I mentioned that Beasley/Walker were a "package deal."
Pretty sure we embrace the fact that this happened.
Revisionist history. powerespect nation denied it and pointed the finger at KU, just like you always do.
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what does this even mean?
Revisionist history. powerespect nation denied it and pointed the finger at KU, just like you always do.
translate / link please?
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Yeah Ben, we coined the phrase MCMW and we'd be all bent out of shape if someone said Beasely/Walker was a package deal. :jerk:
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Personally, I loved, and bragged about, the fact that Huggs took his time off to dodge NCAA rules to recruit Bill and Mike as well as grabbing 'te from Charlotte.
LOVED IT!
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this is the 1st i've heard of package deal. fill me in asap :drool:
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It is common knowledge that Toni's mom got money from a MU booster.
Limestone, take that to Tigerboard and see what the reaction is . . .
:ck:
It would be the exact same reaction as it would be over here if I mentioned that Beasley/Walker were a "package deal."
Pretty sure we embrace the fact that this happened.
Revisionist history. powerespect nation denied it and pointed the finger at KU, just like you always do.
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Revisionist history. powerespect nation denied it and pointed the finger at KU, just like you always do.
:bait: no one else bite on this. just leave it be.
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Revisionist history. powerespect nation denied it and pointed the finger at KU, just like you always do.
I'm going to need the logic and talking points on this considering Walker was on the team a year earlier, was a member of a different AAU organization, and he had no ties to Dalonte Hill or DC Assault.
I'm not quite sure how Walker and Beasley were a "package deal". Walker was tied to Huggins and Beasley was tied to Hill. Did you simply mistype something?
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I think I've been extolling the need for package deals and for K-State to get down in the muck and the mire of the "game" for like, oh, 10 years now.
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maybe he meant Mayo/Walker - a package deal we unfortunately failed to take :cry:
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maybe he meant Mayo/Walker - a package deal we unfortunately failed to take :cry:
Yep. We beat Wisconsin with OJ instead of Clent.
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I put parentheses around package deal to show that I wasn't using it in its literal context.
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goddamnit BMW. Your Jedi Mind trick is ruining this thread.
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Back on topic... Tony Mitchell really was a pretty big recruiting loss for K-state. It's a shame that his mom had to decide his recruitment for him.
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Back on topic... Tony Mitchell really was a pretty big recruiting loss for K-state. It's a shame that his mom had to decide his recruitment for him.
you already have two mclemore threads.
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Back on topic... Tony Mitchell really was a pretty big recruiting loss for K-state. It's a shame that his mom had to decide his recruitment for him.
you already have two mclemore threads.
Zing!!!!
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:users: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/01/13/2582618_tigers-mitchell-ineligible.html?storylink=omni_popular (http://www.kansascity.com/2011/01/13/2582618_tigers-mitchell-ineligible.html?storylink=omni_popular)
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So after 1-25-11, he will sign with an agent and hit the Euro leagues???
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It is common knowledge that Toni's mom got money from a MU booster.
Limestone, take that to Tigerboard and see what the reaction is . . .
It would be the exact same reaction as it would be over here if I mentioned that Beasley/Walker were a "package deal."
http://inception.davepedu.com/
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The only coaches that actually holds grudges against players are Derek Dooley and Isiah Thomas.
That collection of diatribes are as Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) as thinking Tony Mitchell is smart enough to qualify(that is, qualify for realz playa).
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.kansascity.com%2Fsmedia%2F2011%2F01%2F14%2F10%2Ftony_mitchell.standalone.prod_affiliate.81.jpg&hash=9ad56424497218547c6dd3cc403ddf302dacbc36)
JFC what's wrong with his head. it's like a parallelogram
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.kansascity.com%2Fsmedia%2F2011%2F01%2F14%2F10%2Ftony_mitchell.standalone.prod_affiliate.81.jpg&hash=9ad56424497218547c6dd3cc403ddf302dacbc36)
JFC what's wrong with his head. it's like a parallelogram
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgrfx.cstv.com%2Fphotos%2Fschools%2Fksu%2Fsports%2Fm-baskbl%2Fauto_headshot%2F5831648.jpeg&hash=f400d9a9565be5806b9bea788167ae23335795b2)
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It is common knowledge that Toni's mom got money from a MU booster.
Limestone, take that to Tigerboard and see what the reaction is . . .
It would be the exact same reaction as it would be over here if I mentioned that Beasley/Walker were a "package deal."
Pretty sure we embrace the fact that this happened.
Revisionist history. powerespect nation denied it and pointed the finger at KU, just like you always do.
Oh, you meant "here" as in powerespect station not "here" as in here (a la ksufans.com)...btw, did you move to Dumas, Oregon?
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GabeDeArmond Gabe DeArmond
Rumors flying that decision on Tony Mitchell and #Mizzou could come today. Is it possible this whole thing might actually end?
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I put parentheses around package deal to show that I wasn't using it in its literal context.
Your battle with the english language is not going well.
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GabeDeArmond Gabe DeArmond
Rumors flying that decision on Tony Mitchell and #Mizzou could come today. Is it possible this whole thing might actually end?
Could have sworn that I heard the decision was already made like a week ago???? Appeal?
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So after 1-25-11, he will sign with an agent and hit the Euro leagues???
It's officially after 1-25-11. He can't enroll at Mizzou for this year anymore.
Maybe we'll get some sort of news today.
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So after 1-25-11, he will sign with an agent and hit the Euro leagues???
It's officially after 1-25-11. He can't enroll at Mizzou for this year anymore.
Maybe we'll get some sort of news today.
Not so fast....Mitchell could try and do WHAT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. That's right, he will be a full time student in 8 weeks. I think mu needs to try something different when it comes to cheating. Every time they have an athlete who takes 70 hours of credit in an afternoon, they get caught. Over and over again.
MU recruits Mitchell, Richardson could use late registration
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By Mike DeArmond - Posted on 25 January 2011
Two high-profile Missouri athletic recruits — Tony Mitchell in basketball and Sheldon Richardson in football — could take until March 14 to enroll at the University of Missouri and still be eligible in their respective sports this spring.
“As long as a student was admitted and enrolled as a full-time student and met all NCAA requirements, they would be eligible to practice and compete,” Kim Humphrey, MU’s athletics certification officer and assistant to the Vice Provost of Enrollment, told The Star on Tuesday.
Neither Mitchell nor Richardson have been confirmed as academically eligible. Tuesday was the last day to register for full spring semester classes at MU.
But Humphrey said anyone meeting enrollment qualifications — athletes and non-athletes — could enroll only for the final eight weeks of the semester at Missouri.
“If a student were to try to register tomorrow for a class, they can register for any class that has not started yet,” Humphrey said. “The majority of those are the second eight-week classes.”
Full-time student status would be needed for Mitchell to be eligible to practice or play, and for Richardson to take part in spring football drills.
“It would be difficult to fill a full schedule,” Humphrey said of the late-registration option. “Not impossible, but it would be difficult. I don’t know that we’ve ever seen it.”
On Monday, MU basketball coach Mike Anderson said he did not know when, or if, the NCAA might rule on Mitchell’s eligibility.
The Star previously reported that the NCAA has ruled Mitchell ineligible and the case was on appeal. MU officials have neither confirmed nor denied that report.
Richardson signed with Missouri in 2009 but did not qualify academically and went to the College of the Sequoias in California.
Read more: http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/1628#ixzz1C9jwsWji
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Would it even be worth while brining in a kid with in a week or two of conf and NCAA tourney? He isn't even practicing with them. No way Mitchell could go from hanging out with his mom's vagina in Dallas to running the MU system without passing out every three minutes.
It would be diff if MU played a diff style, but MU's system looks like one that may take a lot of time to be integrated into. :dunno:
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So after 1-25-11, he will sign with an agent and hit the Euro leagues???
It's officially after 1-25-11. He can't enroll at Mizzou for this year anymore.
Maybe we'll get some sort of news today.
Not so fast....Mitchell could try and do WHAT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. That's right, he will be a full time student in 8 weeks. I think mu needs to try something different when it comes to cheating. Every time they have an athlete who takes 70 hours of credit in an afternoon, they get caught. Over and over again.
MU recruits Mitchell, Richardson could use late registration
Yes, so fast.
He officially enrolled at North Texas this morning.
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So after 1-25-11, he will sign with an agent and hit the Euro leagues???
It's officially after 1-25-11. He can't enroll at Mizzou for this year anymore.
Maybe we'll get some sort of news today.
Not so fast....Mitchell could try and do WHAT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. That's right, he will be a full time student in 8 weeks. I think mu needs to try something different when it comes to cheating. Every time they have an athlete who takes 70 hours of credit in an afternoon, they get caught. Over and over again.
MU recruits Mitchell, Richardson could use late registration
Yes, so fast.
He officially enrolled at North Texas this morning.
I wondered why the hell you were commenting on this...
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So after 1-25-11, he will sign with an agent and hit the Euro leagues???
It's officially after 1-25-11. He can't enroll at Mizzou for this year anymore.
Maybe we'll get some sort of news today.
Not so fast....Mitchell could try and do WHAT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. That's right, he will be a full time student in 8 weeks. I think mu needs to try something different when it comes to cheating. Every time they have an athlete who takes 70 hours of credit in an afternoon, they get caught. Over and over again.
MU recruits Mitchell, Richardson could use late registration
Yes, so fast.
He officially enrolled at North Texas this morning.
:lol:
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So after 1-25-11, he will sign with an agent and hit the Euro leagues???
It's officially after 1-25-11. He can't enroll at Mizzou for this year anymore.
Maybe we'll get some sort of news today.
Not so fast....Mitchell could try and do WHAT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. That's right, he will be a full time student in 8 weeks. I think mu needs to try something different when it comes to cheating. Every time they have an athlete who takes 70 hours of credit in an afternoon, they get caught. Over and over again.
MU recruits Mitchell, Richardson could use late registration
Yes, so fast.
He officially enrolled at North Texas this morning.
good job tasty greek. that was some great message boarding.
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I miss this place sometimes. It's nice to have an excuse to stop by.
Tell your AD to sign a series with us or something. I'm completely out of K-state material, but hopefully we've reached a point of emotional intimacy that goes beyond that.
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I miss this place sometimes. It's nice to have an excuse to stop by.
Tell your AD to sign a series with us or something. I'm completely out of K-state material, but hopefully we've reached a point of emotional intimacy that goes beyond that.
When we ass raped you guys in the NCAA tourny last year I barely heckled your fans.
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LNTIQ/LQIQ
How can he enroll at N tex if he hasn't yet been ruled academically eligible?
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LNTIQ/LQIQ
How can he enroll at N tex if he hasn't yet been ruled academically eligible?
I think North Texas might be a juco or something.
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So after 1-25-11, he will sign with an agent and hit the Euro leagues???
It's officially after 1-25-11. He can't enroll at Mizzou for this year anymore.
Maybe we'll get some sort of news today.
Not so fast....Mitchell could try and do WHAT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. That's right, he will be a full time student in 8 weeks. I think mu needs to try something different when it comes to cheating. Every time they have an athlete who takes 70 hours of credit in an afternoon, they get caught. Over and over again.
MU recruits Mitchell, Richardson could use late registration
Yes, so fast.
He officially enrolled at North Texas this morning.
Greek, please tell me that you have already visited Tigerboard and rubbed this in their face. If not, you should. Will def make the day enjoyable for all.
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yes greek, please post link to tigerboard face rubbing thread when it starts. tia :emawkid:
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http://www.dallasnews.com/incoming/20110126-source-pinkston-ex-tony-mitchell-in-process-of-enrolling-at-unt.ece
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I hope TG destroys them.
DESTROYS!!!!
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I'm not going to go waggle my dong at the Mizzou fans over this... He did pick them over us (though it was a lot closer decision than any of them will likely admit or realize) in the first place and he wouldn't be coming if it weren't for the transcript mess.
And we still have to actually get him cleared of the potential 10.1 roadblocks (thanks, Frank Martin) even if/when he does post a semester of passing grades.
I'm still pretty happy just over profile. If this does nothing else but help us land Prince Ibeh for next year's class, I'll be ecstatic.
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someone sign up on tigerboard as thetastygreek and gloat this in their faces. tia.
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I'm not going to go waggle my dong at the Mizzou fans over this... He did pick them over us (though it was a lot closer decision than any of them will likely admit or realize) in the first place and he wouldn't be coming if it weren't for the transcript mess.
And we still have to actually get him cleared of the potential 10.1 roadblocks (thanks, Frank Martin) even if/when he does post a semester of passing grades.
I'm still pretty happy just over profile. If this does nothing else but help us land Prince Ibeh for next year's class, I'll be ecstatic.
If this blows up as a Frank Martin bashing session with regards to sabotaging the kid's ability to play elsewhere, please link us to your board.
TIA
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LNTIQ/LQIQ
How can he enroll at N tex if he hasn't yet been ruled academically eligible?
I think North Texas might be a juco or something.
the big 12, like all high-major confs, doesn't allow member schools to award scholarships to nonqualifiers. many smaller conferences do allow it. he could have enrolled at mu too, and gained eligibility after a year in the same way, they just wouldn't have been able to award him a scholarship.
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Did UNT's coach bone his mom also?
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I'm not going to go waggle my dong at the Mizzou fans over this... He did pick them over us (though it was a lot closer decision than any of them will likely admit or realize) in the first place and he wouldn't be coming if it weren't for the transcript mess.
And we still have to actually get him cleared of the potential 10.1 roadblocks (thanks, Frank Martin) even if/when he does post a semester of passing grades.
I'm still pretty happy just over profile. If this does nothing else but help us land Prince Ibeh for next year's class, I'll be ecstatic.
If this blows up as a Frank Martin bashing session with regards to sabotaging the kid's ability to play elsewhere, please link us to your board.
TIA
Won't happen... There's actually people on our forum pissed off that the "big news" turned out not to be about football. Some dumbass was expecting to read it was a verbal from an offensive tackle, then started complaining about our beat writer when it was only a projected NBA lottery pick.
Anyone on our forum that could tell you who Frank Martin is wouldn't be upset with him, even if they do believe in the Missouri Conspiracy Theory. Mitchell is a North Texas student only because of the clearinghouse problems, and last year's recruitment 1st runner up trophy is all we'd have if he'd been cleared for Mizzou.
6th longest current home winning streak in NCAA basketball, 10th longest current 20+ win season streak among non BCS programs (behind only Memphis, Gonzaga, Butler, San Diego State, Xavier, BYU, Nevada, Utah State, and Akron), zero bowl bids in 6 years, and people still think we're destined to be a football school.
Depressing.
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I'm not going to go waggle my dong at the Mizzou fans over this... He did pick them over us (though it was a lot closer decision than any of them will likely admit or realize) in the first place and he wouldn't be coming if it weren't for the transcript mess.
And we still have to actually get him cleared of the potential 10.1 roadblocks (thanks, Frank Martin) even if/when he does post a semester of passing grades.
I'm still pretty happy just over profile. If this does nothing else but help us land Prince Ibeh for next year's class, I'll be ecstatic.
If this blows up as a Frank Martin bashing session with regards to sabotaging the kid's ability to play elsewhere, please link us to your board.
TIA
Won't happen... There's actually people on our forum pissed off that the "big news" turned out not to be about football. Some dumbass was expecting to read it was a verbal from an offensive tackle, then started complaining about our beat writer when it was only a projected NBA lottery pick.
Anyone on our forum that could tell you who Frank Martin is wouldn't be upset with him, even if they do believe in the Missouri Conspiracy Theory. Mitchell is a North Texas student only because of the clearinghouse problems, and last year's recruitment 1st runner up trophy is all we'd have if he'd been cleared for Mizzou.
6th longest current home winning streak in NCAA basketball, 10th longest current 20+ win season streak among non BCS programs (behind only Memphis, Gonzaga, Butler, San Diego State, Xavier, BYU, Nevada, Utah State, and Akron), zero bowl bids in 6 years, and people still think we're destined to be a football school.
Depressing.
Good god. I thought our fans suck.
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The Mean Green and Tony Mitchell are 1 step away from the Big Dance, finals of Sun Belt conference tourney tomorrow night at 6, ESPN2.
Plan your day around it, I know I will.