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Title: pullen numbers
Post by: sys on December 21, 2010, 12:02:46 PM
     %min  ortg   %shot  efg%  or%  dr%  arate  torate  stl%  ftrate       ft             2pt fg         3ptfg
                              
Sr   74.5   104.6   29.2   47.2   2.6   10.8   26.4   19.5   3.5   43.4   45-63(.714)  37-78(.474)  21-67(.313)
Jr   77.9   118.7   28.2   53.3   1.5   7.8    22.2   16.8    3.2   51.5   203-247(.822)  91-202(.450) 110-278(.396)
So  74.7   101.7   26.2   47.3   2.6   7.7    21.4   22.0    3.0   31.0   91-125(.728)  78-179(.436)  75-224(.335)
Fr   58.0   102.7   22.4   47.6   1.1   5.4    25.1   22.2    2.9   34.2   63-92(.685)  68-137(.496)  40-132(.303)

the bolding is mostly just to make things easier to read.


anyways, i'm posting this because there is a sense across goEMAW, gpc & elsewhere that pullen is playing significantly worse than was expected.  if that is true, it was the expectations that failed, not pullen.  his numbers in almost all categories can be seen to be in line with his historical averages (even accounting for trends of improvement with age).

if you wish to look for categories where he might reasonably be expected to improve, and which would positively impact his offensive rating, i think you are basically only talking about three items - free throw rate, shot selection (in this case, shooting more 3s), and 3pt%.

Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: kso_FAN on December 21, 2010, 12:22:29 PM
Great post sys.  Really only the Duke (maybe Wash St) game has been a disappointing game for Pullen, he's been fine outside of that.  Here (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas-state/jacob-pullen/team_impact) is his team impact chart from statsheet (similar to what sys posted, a bit different) that shows the only dropoff he's had is 3PT shooting.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: ben ji on December 21, 2010, 12:34:57 PM
I completely expected him to pick up all of denis scoring.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: FHSU92 on December 21, 2010, 12:43:49 PM
While his #'s are not different than his FR/SO campaigns, I would expect them to be at least the same and slightly better in a few categories given he's a yr older and tabbed as an AA.

So, while he's not performing much different than he has in prior years, he's not living up to expectations - which will hurt his NBA draft stock, which wasn't too high to begin with.

He needs Energy's energy (or, whoever is playing the point needs that E).  He tries to play too cool, which is fine when you're up by 10 and shooting > 40% beyond the arc, but when you're down 10 and shooting 20%, if that, from the arc he needs to get steals and force TOs.   
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on December 21, 2010, 12:45:28 PM
While his #'s are not different than his FR/SO campaigns, I would expect them to be at least the same and slightly better in a few categories given he's a yr older and tabbed as an AA.

So, while he's not performing much different than he has in prior years, he's not living up to expectations - which will hurt his NBA draft stock, which wasn't too high to begin with.

He needs Energy's energy (or, whoever is playing the point needs that E).  He tries to play too cool, which is fine when you're up by 10 and shooting > 40% beyond the arc, but when you're down 10 and shooting 20%, if that, from the arc he needs to get steals and force TOs.   

THIS
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: sys on December 21, 2010, 12:55:34 PM
it's times like these when i hate our fans most of all.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: OregonSmock on December 21, 2010, 12:58:53 PM
Pullen's playing significantly worse this season, as you can see by the stats.  His Ortg is down 14 points, his free throw percentage is down ~11%, and his 3-point percentage is down ~8%.  He needs someone to step up at point guard, because he's not nearly the same player when he's not playing off the ball. 
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: mcmwcat on December 21, 2010, 12:59:24 PM
looks like recruiting experts nailed it again in their evalution of Jake 4 years ago.  

dear idiots, stars matter.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 21, 2010, 01:00:21 PM
3 PT. shooting is a disapointment because of the way we saw him shoot against BYU/Xavier and that's what was most fresh in our minds.  I'm still confident he's going to have a 1st team all conference season.  

Wasn't Denis shooting like 27% from 3 at this point last year and everyone melting down about it?  Yes, I know, not you SD.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: sys on December 21, 2010, 01:01:10 PM
He needs someone to step up at point guard, because he's not nearly the same player when he's not playing off the ball. 

imagine that, bmw clinging to a talking point, irregardless of evidence for or against.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: kso_FAN on December 21, 2010, 01:02:06 PM
Pullen's playing significantly worse this season, as you can see by the stats.  His Ortg is down 14 points, his free throw percentage is down ~11%, and his 3-point percentage is down ~8%.  He needs someone to step up at point guard, because he's not nearly the same player when he's not playing off the ball.  

While true, even worse play by Kelly (and in some games Samuels) is hurting this team far more than Pullen, even in most of his poor shooting games.

3 PT. shooting is a disapointment because of the way we saw him shoot against BYU/Xavier and that's what was most fresh in our minds.  I'm still confident he's going to have a 1st team all conference season.  

Wasn't Denis shooting like 27% from 3 at this point last year and everyone melting down about it?  Yes, I know, not you SD.

Yes.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: sys on December 21, 2010, 01:02:45 PM
Wasn't Denis shooting like 27% from 3 at this point last year and everyone melting down about it?  Yes, I know, not you SD.

yes.  it wasn't until martin moved him off-ball that he was finally able to hit a few threes.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: kso_FAN on December 21, 2010, 01:03:28 PM
Wasn't Denis shooting like 27% from 3 at this point last year and everyone melting down about it?  Yes, I know, not you SD.

yes.  it wasn't until martin moved him off-ball that he was finally able to hit a few threes.

Now THAT is good bbsing. 
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: OregonSmock on December 21, 2010, 01:05:50 PM
He needs someone to step up at point guard, because he's not nearly the same player when he's not playing off the ball. 

imagine that, bmw clinging to a talking point, irregardless of evidence for or against.



"Irregardless."  


 :lol:



Statistical evidence shows that Pullen's scoring numbers are down, his free throw numbers are down, his field goal numbers are down, his 3-point numbers are down, and his turnover rate is higher.  But, but, but... it's just a phog.net talking point!!!!
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: sys on December 21, 2010, 01:08:05 PM
"Irregardless."  


 :lol:

what a dumbass.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: sys on December 21, 2010, 01:10:44 PM
Statistical evidence shows that Pullen's scoring numbers are down, his free throw numbers are down, his field goal numbers are down, his 3-point numbers are down, and his turnover rate is higher.  But, but, but... it's just a phog.net talking point!!!!

not just a phog.net talking point.  a lot of idiots in other places also convinced themselves that a career pg with combo skills could only play at the nominal "2" in kstate's offense.  it's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), but phog.net hasn't yet monopolized retardation.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: chum1 on December 21, 2010, 01:11:56 PM
aren't  there some numbers that would tell us what to expect regarding  the relationship between fan expectations and numbers?  because it looks like we could use some.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: kougar24 on December 21, 2010, 01:16:25 PM
I'm not entirely positive, but I'm fairly sure using FT% as evidence that moving back to PG has hurt Pullen is something an idiot would do.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 21, 2010, 01:20:04 PM
Statistical evidence shows that Pullen's scoring numbers are down, his free throw numbers are down, his field goal numbers are down, his 3-point numbers are down, and his turnover rate is higher.  But, but, but... it's just a phog.net talking point!!!!

not just a phog.net talking point.  a lot of idiots in other places also convinced themselves that a career pg with combo skills could only play at the nominal "2" in kstate's offense.  it's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), but phog.net hasn't yet monopolized retardation.

Never, ever sell Tardville short in these areas.

Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: OregonSmock on December 21, 2010, 01:27:42 PM
"Irregardless."  


 :lol:

what a dumbass.



Wow... you are dumber than a box of bricks.  Looks like that K-State education really paid off, Mr. Contrarian.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: OregonSmock on December 21, 2010, 01:30:08 PM
I'm not entirely positive, but I'm fairly sure using FT% as evidence that moving back to PG has hurt Pullen is something an idiot would do.


I was just pointing out that his overall numbers are down this year, which only someone with an extremely small penis would deny.  His free throw rate is down as well, which indicates to me that he's trying to distribute the ball more, instead of looking to score and draw a foul.  But, but, but... deny the fact that KU fans were right at all costs!!!!!
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: sys on December 21, 2010, 01:38:15 PM
Wow... you are dumber than a box of bricks.

 :lol:
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: sys on December 21, 2010, 01:39:41 PM
I was just pointing out that his overall numbers are down this year, which only someone with an extremely small penis would deny.  His free throw rate is down as well, which indicates to me that he's trying to distribute the ball more, instead of looking to score and draw a foul.

his shot% is up and he's attempting a higher proportion of 2s than 3s compared to last year, dumbass.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: OregonSmock on December 21, 2010, 01:41:20 PM
I was just pointing out that his overall numbers are down this year, which only someone with an extremely small penis would deny.  His free throw rate is down as well, which indicates to me that he's trying to distribute the ball more, instead of looking to score and draw a foul.

his shot% is up and he's attempting a higher proportion of 2s than 3s compared to last year, dumbass.



Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, your a moran.


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: steve dave on December 21, 2010, 01:43:03 PM
well, beems apparently missed the irregardless thread
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: CHONGS on December 21, 2010, 01:44:55 PM
What a rough ridin' train wreck.

Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: sys on December 21, 2010, 01:48:09 PM
Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, your a moran.

totally different.  moran/pole/etc. dumbasses are no better than the idiots that still go around with the "but, but, but ..." shtick.


people that object to irregardless are the same bumblefucks that are like: "'ain't no seats', but that means there really are seats,  :confused:"
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 21, 2010, 01:49:58 PM
well, beems apparently missed the irregardless thread

yup
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: 1/64th on December 21, 2010, 02:00:20 PM
I generally love sys and _fans....but in this instance I have to disagree.  Pullen is significantly worse this year as compared to last year.  When you know basketball, you don't always need math to tell you when someone is playing well or not.  And this year, Pullen has been very average...and in some cases just plain bad.  That's not to say that he is the reason we are losing.  Our bigs totally sucking @$$ is the real problem, IMO.  Now let's see who calls me a dumbass first. 
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: sys on December 21, 2010, 02:04:59 PM
I generally love sys and _fans....but in this instance I have to disagree.  Pullen is significantly worse this year as compared to last year.  When you know basketball, you don't always need math to tell you when someone is playing well or not.  And this year, Pullen has been very average...and in some cases just plain bad.  That's not to say that he is the reason we are losing.  Our bigs totally sucking @$$ is the real problem, IMO.  Now let's see who calls me a dumbass first. 

a gpc talking point.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: 1/64th on December 21, 2010, 02:07:01 PM
I generally love sys and _fans....but in this instance I have to disagree.  Pullen is significantly worse this year as compared to last year.  When you know basketball, you don't always need math to tell you when someone is playing well or not.  And this year, Pullen has been very average...and in some cases just plain bad.  That's not to say that he is the reason we are losing.  Our bigs totally sucking @$$ is the real problem, IMO.  Now let's see who calls me a dumbass first. 

a gpc talking point.


A goEMAW talking point. 
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: kso_FAN on December 21, 2010, 02:08:27 PM
I generally love sys and _fans....but in this instance I have to disagree.  Pullen is significantly worse this year as compared to last year.  When you know basketball, you don't always need math to tell you when someone is playing well or not.  And this year, Pullen has been very average...and in some cases just plain bad.  That's not to say that he is the reason we are losing.  Our bigs totally sucking @$$ is the real problem, IMO.  Now let's see who calls me a dumbass first.  

But IMHO a lot of his "worse" (perception-wise) is not making shots.  I mean we remember getting torched by Irving and some of the TOs that stand out, but if he was shooting last year's 40% from 3 and not 31% with 3PT games of 1-8 vs Duke, 1-6 vs WSU, 0-4 vs Loyola, and 1-7 vs FL we'd all forget a lot of the other stuff.  What stands out right now is he's not hitting the big shots in some of the bigger games.  Like CartierFor3 said, we all want to see Xavier/BYU performances and those 1 for's and 0 for's are a surprise.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 21, 2010, 02:09:15 PM
I generally love sys and _fans....but in this instance I have to disagree.  Pullen is significantly worse this year as compared to last year.  When you know basketball, you don't always need math to tell you when someone is playing well or not.  And this year, Pullen has been very average...and in some cases just plain bad.  That's not to say that he is the reason we are losing.  Our bigs totally sucking @$$ is the real problem, IMO.  Now let's see who calls me a dumbass first.  

a gpc talking point.

a garbage talking point, no matter what sport. Especially bad is Baseball.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: sys on December 21, 2010, 02:09:48 PM
a gpc talking point.
A goEMAW talking point. 

indeed.  so, you now only need ask yourself which you consider the smarter board.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: CHONGS on December 21, 2010, 02:12:25 PM
I am biased, but I consider goEMAW to be a smarter board than gpc.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: 1/64th on December 21, 2010, 02:16:19 PM
I generally love sys and _fans....but in this instance I have to disagree.  Pullen is significantly worse this year as compared to last year.  When you know basketball, you don't always need math to tell you when someone is playing well or not.  And this year, Pullen has been very average...and in some cases just plain bad.  That's not to say that he is the reason we are losing.  Our bigs totally sucking @$$ is the real problem, IMO.  Now let's see who calls me a dumbass first.  

But IMHO a lot of his "worse" (perception-wise) is not making shots.  I mean we remember getting torched by Irving and some of the TOs that stand out, but if he was shooting last year's 40% from 3 and not 31% with 3PT games of 1-8 vs Duke, 1-6 vs WSU, 0-4 vs Loyola, and 1-7 vs FL we'd all forget a lot of the other stuff.  What stands out right now is he's not hitting the big shots in some of the bigger games.  Like CartierFor3 said, we all want to see Xavier/BYU performances and those 1 for's and 0 for's are a surprise.

I see him worse in most facets of the game, least of these is shooting percentage.  He is worse defensively.  How many times has he been blown by?  More than I recall last year.  His turnovers are often careless.  I know this is going to get made fun of by you stat/math dorks, but he just doesn't seem as driven as in the past.  As far as shooting goes...how many 1 for and 0 for games did he have last year?  I really don't know.  Not many I'll bet.  He's just not the steady force that he was last year.  IMHO.  

BTW, I'm all for stats and learning from them.  (that's my job anyway).  But sometimes you have to step back from the numbers and look at what's actually going on.  You can learn a lot from both.  

PS.  I love how when we don't like what someone says we call it a gpc talking point.

Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: chum1 on December 21, 2010, 02:21:22 PM
if it's any consolation to anyone, goEMAW often misinterprets kenpom.  pretty embarrassing to think you're acting smart when you really look like a dumbass.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: kso_FAN on December 21, 2010, 02:21:54 PM
Pullen had 12 games below 30% last year.  

He has 6 this year, though one of those was VT when he only attempted one 3PT shot.  

I think he has had plenty of games where he has been very good defensively, he's being a) asked to do more b/c the rest of the wings are inexperienced so b) when he does get beat it looks much worse b/c he doesn't have the help he expects.  And Irving absolutely torched him and the rest of the team.  Outside that game, he has been beaten in spots, but I think his defense has been just as good as last year overall.  But without guys like Clemente, Sutton, Colon, and even Merri to help out (when and where he knows they will help) he's bound to look bad at times b/c he's usually guarding their best perimeter player.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: 1/64th on December 21, 2010, 02:23:40 PM
Pullen had 12 games below 30% last year.  

He has 6 this year, though one of those was VT when he only attempted one 3PT shot.  

I think he has had plenty of games where he has been very good defensively, he's being a) asked to do more b/c the rest of the wings are inexperienced so b) when he does get beat it looks much worse b/c he doesn't have the help he expects.  And Irving absolutely torched him and the rest of the team.  Outside that game, he has been beaten in spots, but I think his defense has been just as good as last year overall.  But without guys like Clemente, Sutton, Colon, and even Merri to help out (when and where he knows they will help) he's bound to look bad at times b/c he's usually guarding their best perimeter player.

Ok, I'll buy that. 
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: sys on December 21, 2010, 02:29:04 PM
if it's any consolation to anyone, goEMAW often misinterprets kenpom.  pretty embarrassing to think you're acting smart when you really look like a dumbass.

examples?


re. pullen's defense.  i think the whole discussion started with irving getting by him at will.  and has continued without any additional evidence.  he's still an outstanding on-ball defender.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 21, 2010, 02:56:46 PM
well, beems apparently missed the irregardless thread

yup

Beems bbs'ing is much like Pullen's game right now.  Without other uk fans to play off of and take on some of the posting load, his posting is sucking as he tries to do it all himself.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: 1/64th on December 21, 2010, 03:15:46 PM
if it's any consolation to anyone, goEMAW often misinterprets kenpom.  pretty embarrassing to think you're acting smart when you really look like a dumbass.

examples?


re. pullen's defense.  i think the whole discussion started with irving getting by him at will.  and has continued without any additional evidence.  he's still an outstanding on-ball defender.

FL guards got by him also...maybe not at will, but fairly regularly. 
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: sys on December 21, 2010, 03:20:27 PM
FL guards got by him also...maybe not at will, but fairly regularly. 

no they didn't.  kstate absolutely stifled uf in the 1st half.  and it started with the kstate guards shutting down both dribble penetration and passing lanes.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: OregonSmock on December 21, 2010, 03:22:12 PM
FL guards got by him also...maybe not at will, but fairly regularly. 

no they didn't.  kstate absolutely stifled uf in the 1st half.  and it started with the kstate guards shutting down both dribble penetration and passing lanes.



Erving Walker disagrees.  Do you even watch the game, or just sit there on your computer and look at stats?
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on December 21, 2010, 03:30:52 PM
FL guards got by him also...maybe not at will, but fairly regularly. 

no they didn't.  kstate absolutely stifled uf in the 1st half.  and it started with the kstate guards shutting down both dribble penetration and passing lanes.
  The first half of the first half they played pretty good defense but after that it was pretty lazy.  And we could not push the ball up the court.  Which I know there press is supposed to slow down the transition off of a made basket but if we had a ball handler we should be able to exploit that weak press they put on.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: mcmwcat on December 21, 2010, 03:45:54 PM
FL guards got by him also...maybe not at will, but fairly regularly. 

no they didn't.  kstate absolutely stifled uf in the 1st half.  and it started with the kstate guards shutting down both dribble penetration and passing lanes.

there is no denying this.   granted i stopped watching when we got down by 15 and had missed 20 in a row so he might have played some poor defense after this.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: 1/64th on December 21, 2010, 03:46:53 PM
FL guards got by him also...maybe not at will, but fairly regularly. 

no they didn't.  kstate absolutely stifled uf in the 1st half.  and it started with the kstate guards shutting down both dribble penetration and passing lanes.

Yes they did.  Maybe not in the first 15 mins of the game, but there was another 25 after that where Pullen was blown by on several occasions.  Walker scored the first FG for FL by blowing past Jake.  

Stay out of it Beems. 
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: mcmwcat on December 21, 2010, 03:50:04 PM
'blown by'  :lol:
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: gatoveintisiete on December 21, 2010, 04:08:52 PM
good God, what is so hard to figure out?  Last year Jake had Denis and played like an all-american, this year he doesn't have him and things are much much more difficult, no transition points which puts us in our world renown half-court sets,  teams scheme to stop our AA the shots he takes this year don't even compare to the shots he took last year.

Everything we are frustrated with this year goes back to the lack of Clemente, Denis got us in transition, we suck in the halfcourt.  Denis drove and threw crap up off the board and the jycs would clean it up, the reason we don't get to the line is nobody drives to the basket, and nobody gets fouled attempting a stickback because lord knows Franks teams do not consistently get the ball inside in the halfcourt O.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: sys on December 21, 2010, 04:31:46 PM
Yes they did.  Maybe not in the first 15 mins of the game, but there was another 25 after that where Pullen was blown by on several occasions.  Walker scored the first FG for FL by blowing past Jake. 

i'm not going to say that no uf guard ever got past pullen, because i certainly didn't watch that matchup that closely.  i will say that it you think uf guards going past pullen was a systemic issue throughout the game, you're either blind or didn't see the game.  it simply didn't happen.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: cas4ksu on December 21, 2010, 05:31:54 PM
Yes they did.  Maybe not in the first 15 mins of the game, but there was another 25 after that where Pullen was blown by on several occasions.  Walker scored the first FG for FL by blowing past Jake. 

i'm not going to say that no uf guard ever got past pullen, because i certainly didn't watch that matchup that closely.  i will say that it you think uf guards going past pullen was a systemic issue throughout the game, you're either blind or didn't see the game.  it simply didn't happen.

qft. that defensive possession when pullen drew the charge was one of the best defensive possessions i've seen in a while.
Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: 8manpick on February 02, 2011, 11:36:26 AM
EDIT: Thought I had this formatted right, but it didn't work out.  Any help appreciated.

Pullen this year vs. last year
Good teams: KenPom top 40
decent teams: 40-80
bad teams: 80+
2010-11
Opp Skill                           MIN    FG FGA FG % FTM FTA 3PM 3PA 3P% PTS    PPG PPS   AST    TO
vs. good      7   games         184   25   80   31%   23   33   8   37   22%   81   11.57   1.01   13   19
vs. decent   4   games         130   24   60   40%   20   26   10   30   33%   78   19.50   1.30   12   14
vs. bad      11   games         282   59   123   48%   44   58   23   57   40%   185   16.82   1.50   39   19
                                                      
Wins           12    games         360   71   155   46%   50   68   29   74   39%   221   18.41   1.43   51   35
losses          7   games         236   37   108   34%   37   49   12   50   24%   123   17.57   1.14   13   17
                                                      
Overall   19   games         596   108   263   41%   87   117   41   124   33%   344   18.11   1.31   64   52

2009-10
vs. good   13   games         430   61   169   36%   78   101   37   104   36%   237   18.23   1.40   39   36
vs. decent   6   games         201   44   93   47%   36   40   21   49   43%   145   24.17   1.56   18   21
vs. bad   14   games         403   70   159   44%   67   83   35   89   39%   242   17.29   1.52        59   28

wins           26   games         773   140   311   45%   136   167   77   177   44%   493   18.96   1.58   94   68
losses           7   games         261   35   110   32%   45   57   16   65   25%   131   18.71   1.19   22   17

Overall   33   games         1034   175   421   42%   181   224   93   242   38%   624   18.91   1.48   116   85
Not sure what this means, if anything, but it sure looks to me like Pullen's numbers are a lot more inflated from games against bad teams this year than last year.  Last year, he kept his shooting percentage and 3p% in a much more consistent range regardless of opponent ability, while this year there is a clear indication that his solid overall numbers are skewed due to good play against bad teams.  Could be many reasons for this: less open shots due to more defensive focus on him is what I'm hoping for.  However, I feel like he hit lots of guarded shots last year.  Any thoughts?


Title: Re: pullen numbers
Post by: dirk diggler on February 02, 2011, 11:44:07 AM
Yeah, he draws the top defender on every team we play and sometimes the top 2 defenders since we have no other threats to score.   Last year clemente drew some of the top defenders off him.  Jake also has to be the defensive stopper for the opponent which could take its' toll on him.