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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: PurpleThreadCred on December 20, 2010, 01:57:35 PM
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Pullen - Hard to say he has improved, but also think it's hard to tell with the lack of Denis, position differences, and opponent focus on stopping him. Just hope he can find his groove soon.
Kelly - Haven't seen improvement thus far, but he has at least shown flashes (ok maybe only Duke....a flash). Was hoping for at least what we got last year...which was pretty good by the end of the year. I think we're still going to see it from him, but I don't know that he has gotten any better.
Samuels - Can't say he's shown any better than last year, which is disappointing because he took huge strides from FR to SO. Was hoping his perimeter game would develop and we could play him at the 3 some. So far though, pretty much the same inconsistent performer, though he is playing a little better and might be getting ready to make a move. And he is fouling way less, which is a big positive.
Judge - Pretty obvious answer here at this point. It's all about confidence with him. Stay with it Wally. It'll come at some point.
McGruder - Pretty solid improvement. Love the rebounding. Good shooter most of the time. Now just needs to develop his ball handling skills and be more consistent.
Irving - Also think he has improved. J looks better, ball handling has been solid. Needs more PT.
JHR - Improvement is there. Moves better, has gained weight, looks more confident. Still not someone who can be a consistent performer for us, but at least he's on the right path. Would prefer to see him get minutes over Asprilla.
Russell - Really didn't see enough of him last year to evaluate improvement. Skills and athleticism are there. He just needs to stop pissing Frank off every time he plays. Shoots too much too soon and doesn't get into the flow of the game before getting yanked.
Vic - Definitely better, but still shouldn't be seeing very many minutes.
Newbies - can't evaluate improvement, but can based on expectations
Asprilla - Definitely not as good as advertised. Not 6'10" either. He is a relatively average role player that shouldn't start. Art Alvarez's player descriptions should always be toned down by about 50%.
Spradling - Better than advertised, but for this year if he is playing as much as he is playing, this team's ceiling isn't going to be very high. Athletically he just can't get us into offense well enough and can't lead us to any fast break points, which is huge considering how poorly we've been executing on offense. I think we need to play Irving and Russell more and live with their mistakes because for us to get anywhere this year it's going to have to happen with them. Those two and Curtis were the only ones who could athletically compete with a team like Duke on the floor. (Jake & Jamar can too.....they just had bad games that night) Still a fan of Spradling, but he just can't be our featured point guard like he is now....at least this year.
Southwell - Needs work. Not ready.
Williams - See above.
Myles - Haven't seen enough, but doesn't appear to have enough game to contribute yet.
Still think this team can make some noise this year, but they need to get it figured out and hopefully soon.
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Better:
Irving
Vic
Worse/Equal:
Everyone Else
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Better:
Irving
Vic
McGruder has to be on that list. Agree with ptc about JHR, too. And also agree he hasn't improved enough to be a difference maker. That was supposed to be Judge and Samuels.
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Better:
Irving
Vic
McGruder has to be on that list. Agree with ptc about JHR, too. And also agree he hasn't improved enough to be a difference maker. That was supposed to be Judge and Samuels.
No, McG was good last season too. He's equally good this year.
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Better:
Irving
Vic
McGruder has to be on that list. Agree with ptc about JHR, too. And also agree he hasn't improved enough to be a difference maker. That was supposed to be Judge and Samuels.
No, McG was good last season too. He's equally good this year.
I'm in slow-drawn-out-meltdown-mode right now too, but you can't argue McG isn't better this year. His shooting may be even, but his D alone is far better than it was a year ago.
Irving is way better so far than a year ago.
JamSam is worse, and Kelly is way worse.
Kelly, imo, is the primary gap between preseason expectations and reality at this point.
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Agree on your point on McG sd....if he had played as much last year as he is this year we might have seen the same results. I would still argue he is at least slightly improved. He seems more confident this year and better on D.
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mcgruder is much better this year.
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McG's D last year was atrocious. Hence, the lack of PT.
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Better:
Irving
Gruder
Vic
Pullen's D(imo)
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ignoring JHR is silly.
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ignoring JHR is silly.
So is blaming energy for our subsequent loss to butler but I do it every damn day.
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Stone me....JHR is our best big this year. He's by far the most aggressive...not saying much (he's still not nearly as strong and aggressive as he needs to be). He's been a great shot blocker. He's clearly much stronger and learning how to use his body. He's been good on the boards. If he would refrain from his sudden urges to be a jump shooter, he'd likely be getting much more playing time. I like his progress.
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JHR has caught my eye the most
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Stone me....JHR is our best big this year. He's by far the most aggressive...not saying much (he's still not nearly as strong and aggressive as he needs to be). He's been a great shot blocker. He's clearly much stronger and learning how to use his body. He's been good on the boards. If he would refrain from his sudden urges to be a jump shooter, he'd likely be getting much more playing time. I like his progress.
idiot
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Stone me....JHR is our best big this year. He's by far the most aggressive...not saying much (he's still not nearly as strong and aggressive as he needs to be). He's been a great shot blocker. He's clearly much stronger and learning how to use his body. He's been good on the boards. If he would refrain from his sudden urges to be a jump shooter, he'd likely be getting much more playing time. I like his progress.
JamSam is way more agressive... tard
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Jamar is better in a lot of areas actually, his drop off has been on offense. eFG% and FT Rate are down, but he's better in pretty much every other statistical category.
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imo, from a player standpoint, McGruds has improved and statistically is an upgrade over Dom. Irving is slightly better than last year Irving. Other than that? No one else, imo.
from a team standpoint, we're statistically better in nearly every defensive category and worse in nearly offensive category compared to last year through 11 games. though last year our schedule was better from an average opp rpi by 30 spots (which is saying something considering we've played the #1 rpi team this year).
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imo, from a player standpoint, McGruds has improved and statistically is an upgrade over Dom. Irving is slightly better than last year Irving. Other than that? No one else, imo.
from a team standpoint, we're statistically better in nearly every defensive category and worse in nearly offensive category compared to last year through 11 games. though last year our schedule was better from an average opp rpi by 30 spots (which is saying something considering we've played the #1 rpi team this year).
Irving is only "slightly" better? In twice as many minutes per game thus far, Irving's eFG% is up 22%; 3FG% is up 18%; his A/T ratio has more than doubled.
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imo, from a player standpoint, McGruds has improved and statistically is an upgrade over Dom. Irving is slightly better than last year Irving. Other than that? No one else, imo.
from a team standpoint, we're statistically better in nearly every defensive category and worse in nearly offensive category compared to last year through 11 games. though last year our schedule was better from an average opp rpi by 30 spots (which is saying something considering we've played the #1 rpi team this year).
Irving is only "slightly" better? In twice as many minutes per game thus far, Irving's eFG% is up 22%; 3FG% is up 18%; his A/T ratio has more than doubled.
you're right, I should give him more credit.
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Anyone know if McOrbs can dribble? Love what he is doing, but would like to see him take it in(if he can) every once in a while.
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imo, from a player standpoint, McGruds has improved and statistically is an upgrade over Dom. Irving is slightly better than last year Irving. Other than that? No one else, imo.
from a team standpoint, we're statistically better in nearly every defensive category and worse in nearly offensive category compared to last year through 11 games. though last year our schedule was better from an average opp rpi by 30 spots (which is saying something considering we've played the #1 rpi team this year).
Irving is only "slightly" better? In twice as many minutes per game thus far, Irving's eFG% is up 22%; 3FG% is up 18%; his A/T ratio has more than doubled.
you're right, I should give him more credit.
He is my personal crusade this year (the anti-Asprilla). Aside from that, carry on. You've earned this bro.
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Anyone know if McOrbs can dribble? Love what he is doing, but would like to see him take it in(if he can) every once in a while.
no, he can't. right now, he's doing what he can do. very well. he plays to his strengths.