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Title: Great reporting here
Post by: JMart on December 20, 2010, 11:31:38 AM
http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2010/12/20/fanhouse-report-bcs-football-program-drug-policies-revealed/
Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: steve dave on December 20, 2010, 11:37:09 AM
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"I would argue a school is at a competitive disadvantage (that allows five positive tests before dismissal)," Beebe said.

Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: steve dave on December 20, 2010, 11:39:49 AM
Interesting that Jeff posts this on the hoops board........
Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: JMart on December 20, 2010, 11:50:34 AM
Well, I'm guessing the same drug policy exists within other sports within the athletic department.  :eye:
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Post by: Kat Kid on December 20, 2010, 11:51:23 AM
But who can be sure?

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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 20, 2010, 11:52:08 AM
ha, ha. good stuff.
Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: kso_FAN on December 20, 2010, 11:53:14 AM
Interesting.

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BIG 12

Baylor: (1) one game; (2) 10 percent of games plus one game; (3) dismissal.

Iowa State: (1) none; (2) 10 percent of games: (3) dismissal.

Kansas: (1) none; (2) whichever is less: two games or 10 percent of games; (3) dismissal.

Kansas State: (1) none; (2) 10 percent of games; (3) dismissal.

Missouri: (1) none; (2) seven days; (3) dismissal.

Oklahoma: (1) none; (2) one game; (3) "expulsion from athletic program." Note: athlete with three positives may be reinstated "upon completion of a qualified drug rehabilitation program."

Oklahoma State: (1) none; (2) 10 percent of games; (3) 50 percent of games; (4) dismissal.

Texas: (1) none; (2) "if suspended, length of suspension determined by athletic director;" (3) dismissal.

Texas A&M: (1) none; (2) "possible suspension;" (3) possible dismissal.

Texas Tech: (1) none; (2) one game; (3) dismissal.
Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: Ira Hayes on December 20, 2010, 11:54:36 AM
How many 16 year olds do these schools allow a player to impregnate before suspension?     :fatty:
Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: Cire on December 20, 2010, 11:54:58 AM
love tx and tx atm
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Post by: OK_Cat on December 20, 2010, 11:55:12 AM
i'll admit that i just assumed that most drug-related punishments were an ncaa-wide set of rules.

interesting stuff, jeff.
Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: CNS on December 20, 2010, 11:57:21 AM
A&M is apparently the only on who has this figured out.

As far as BB goes, how does Beebe figure on the competitive disadvantage thing? 

Seems like the more positives that are allowed would equate to better recruits.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: JMart on December 20, 2010, 01:03:19 PM
Guessing - and I repeat, I'm only guessing - that this might explain Mike Dixon's suspension at Missouri. Of course, it MIGHT also explains a lot about K-State.
Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: steve dave on December 20, 2010, 01:20:18 PM
explains a lot about K-State.

Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: OK_Cat on December 20, 2010, 01:22:31 PM
so this thread is basically JMart's way of telling us that Kelly/Samuels/Judge are potheads without directly saying it.

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Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: CNS on December 20, 2010, 01:23:48 PM
explains a lot about K-State.



Am I the only one that is perfectly OK with this?
Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: steve dave on December 20, 2010, 01:29:30 PM
explains a lot about K-State.



Am I the only one that is perfectly OK with this?

no, everyone is
Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 20, 2010, 01:32:08 PM
explains a lot about K-State.



Am I the only one that is perfectly OK with this?

no, everyone is

I would be much more OK with it if the school adopted Texas A&M's policy.
Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: Trim on December 20, 2010, 01:49:46 PM
Love the holier-than-thou approach of some of those schools regarding positive drug tests.  A true show of concern is how long they mandate a player sit when he suffers an eye hernia, regardless of how much the player may want to play through it, goggles or not.  KSTATEO looks out for our guys' LONG-TERM health.
Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: kso_FAN on December 20, 2010, 01:54:43 PM
Most good programs/coaches have the following philosophies; a) the fewer (and less specific) the rules you have the better and b) only make rules you are willing to enforce.  This doesn't mean those teams/programs are full of chaos and no discipline, b/c you can still have a lot of discipline under this philosophy, you just have to communicate well and develop trust between players and coaches.
Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 20, 2010, 01:56:18 PM
Love the holier-than-thou approach of some of those schools regarding positive drug tests.  A true show of concern is how long they mandate a player sit when he suffers an eye hernia, regardless of how much the player may want to play through it, goggles or not.  KSTATEO looks out for our guys' LONG-TERM health.

What says "I love you big guy" more than allowing a player time to reflect and celebrate the impending miracle of fatherhood?  Nothing I can think of...
Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 20, 2010, 02:20:06 PM
gateway
Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: Ira Hayes on December 20, 2010, 02:26:38 PM
When you are the best of the best the game loses it's fun.  You need to find a way to make it a challenge.  You don't need to put any more weight on the bar, but you do it anyway.
Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: sys on December 20, 2010, 02:44:45 PM
re. mys drug suspensions:

playing 5 and 2 minutes amidst dnp games doesn't fit that theory.

Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: steve dave on December 20, 2010, 02:55:39 PM
re. mys drug suspensions:

playing 5 and 2 minutes amidst dnp games doesn't fit that theory.



ya, this was what was bothering me re. it.  Fits Kelly though iirc...
Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: pissclams on December 20, 2010, 03:59:22 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 20, 2010, 04:06:39 PM
Selective enforcement of rules and having very few rules is absolutely the best policy.

Title: Re: Great reporting here
Post by: AzCat on December 20, 2010, 07:55:18 PM
A true show of concern is how long they mandate a player sit when he suffers an eye hernia, regardless of how much the player may want to play through it, goggles or not.

Eye hernias are obviously Frank's way of counting from two to three: one, two, eye hernia, not getting it done in practice, two and one half, concussion, our for personal reasons, two and three quarters, etc. 

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