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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: sonofdaxjones on December 13, 2010, 04:22:53 PM
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:ck:
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i do, but purely for sentimental reasons.
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I'm of the opinion that anyone who thinks we are better off with Nino's 34 total minutes in 10 games is out of their rough ridin' mind. Of course we miss him.
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Dominique was, always, dominant.
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I'm of the opinion that anyone who thinks we are better off with Nino's 34 total minutes in 10 games is out of their rough ridin' mind. Of course we miss him.
i'd like to see what empty scholarship could have done with those 34 minutes.
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I miss him, despite the fact that he was maybe one of the most frustrating athletes to watch that ever played for K-State . . . but he brought a level of toughness that we just don't have, plus he may have been one of the most (unfairly imo) targeted players in Big 12 B-Ball history. Some of the fouls he got called for were just, well, absurd.
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A lot more than I suspected. Sure, he had some really bad lapses, but when he was in JYC mode (about half the time) he was a huge asset. Dom was a lot like Wally, but he actually showed his good side from time to time.
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Maybe. But I think McGruds/OJ brings just as much as Sutton/McGrudes did last year. His experienceJYC-ness would be nice, but he's not the difference between being good and great.
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If you think Jake has a hard time getting shots without Denis, could you imagine if the defenses also had Dom to sag off of too?
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Maybe. But I think McGruds/OJ brings just as much as Sutton/McGrudes did last year.
You're off your goddam rocker.
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Maybe. But I think McGruds/OJ brings just as much as Sutton/McGrudes did last year. His experienceJYC-ness would be nice, but he's not the difference between being good and great.
agree. mcgruder has been fantastic, and it'd be very hard to play pullen, mcgruder & sutton at the same time.
mostly missing his adorableness.
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Maybe. But I think McGruds/OJ brings just as much as Sutton/McGrudes did last year.
You're off your goddam rocker.
Well, maybe not quite yet.
Last year in 59.2 %Min, Sutton's main strengths were 11.4 ORB% and 2.9 STL%. ORt of 104.6.
This year in 72.8 %Min, McGruds is bringing 17.6 DRB% (8.4 ORB%) and 2.1 STL%. ORt of 117.2.
Last year in 27.5 %Min, McGruds main strengths were 15.8 DRB% (9.8 ORB%). ORt of 125.0.
This year in 20.9 %Min, OJ is bringing 11.9 DRB% (9.7 ORB%) and 3.3 STL%. ORt of 98.7.
And IMO it will only get better.
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Maybe. But I think McGruds/OJ brings just as much as Sutton/McGrudes did last year.
You're off your goddam rocker.
2010 Rodney >= 2009 Dom
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Is it better to have Dominique Sutton at the end of your bench or Nino Williams? I'd take Sutton.
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Is it better to have Dominique Sutton at the end of your bench or Nino Williams? I'd take Sutton.
at the 3, mcgruder 25 minutes, sutton 15 is obviously better than anything else.
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Just going to toss this out:
This would have been the year it clicked for Dom.
You know it's true.
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Just going to toss this out:
This would have been the year it clicked for Dom.
You know it's true.
Is this the other thing that still makes you feel like a tard?
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Just going to toss this out:
This would have been the year it clicked for Dom.
You know it's true.
Is this the other thing that still makes you feel like a tard?
Yes. Hard to let Dom and Wally go.
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quite simply. no.
he should have been so much more. than he was.
his liabilities (and they were great) would have been more detrimental than his positives beneficial.
Rod is our leading 3 pt. shooter as far as made baskets go. At this point Dom would maybe have 1 (we have yet to play nubb).
I want Denis back. That's all.
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Yeah, honestly I think Dom would have been worse on O this year than last. Last year, he thrived in transition. We don't play the same game. Dom may have had a lot more trouble without as much up and down.
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We miss him, but it will pay off in the end because McGruder will hit his full stride sooner.
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Is it better to have Dominique Sutton at the end of your bench or Nino Williams? I'd take Sutton.
at the 3, mcgruder 25 minutes, sutton 15 is obviously better than anything else.
Exactly. Ludicrous to insinuate anything else.
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Is it better to have Dominique Sutton at the end of your bench or Nino Williams? I'd take Sutton.
at the 3, mcgruder 25 minutes, sutton 15 is obviously better than anything else.
Exactly. Ludicrous to insinuate anything else.
The only thing that could possibly be better would be Rod 20, dom 15 and merriwether 5, that way we could get 5 less minutes of shooting.
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I miss the the surprise 3 point barrage
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Was Dom going to be content coming off the bench after having been a multi-year starter, that was my concern.
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Dom could have been a slasher. Granted he was just as likely to almost punch somebody and lose his dead as help the team. But he played with intensity, was very tough, and a great athlete. We lack those three things this year.
I'm not sure we miss Dom in statistical ways as much as we miss his style of play and the way it affected the other players around him. One thing you could never accuse him of is playing like a pussy. I can't say that for anyone else on this team.
I miss watching him pull out his mouthpiece and be disgusted with a play/foul.
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I don't think we are better (not right now anyway) without Dom, but i don't think having him on the team makes us that much better either
McGruder has been great on offense. With Jake and Sprads or Jake/Tay on the court, McGruder is gonna get better looks and more scoring opp.
I would much rather have Dom getting minutes at the 3 as opposed to Vic. But with Dom on this team he likely gets 20-23 minutes(so Gruds plays some at the 2) . Vic is only gonna get 10 min tops in bigger games (unless Gruds is in foul trouble)
Gruds minutes would not be effected IMO, but Sprads and Tay would see a decrease IMO. I like what i see out of those two and like how they are getting the playing time that they are.
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Ideal situation would have been for dom to realize he sucked crap at offense, stepped back a bit for mcgruds/oj and only played moderate minutes when we needed some defensive help. Was never going to happen tho
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I miss the the surprise 3 point barrage
We're going to wait until the ideal time to unleash JHR from 3.
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Look. We miss Dom. We miss Denis. I'm not sure why we do this to ourselves. It rough ridin' hurts.
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Look. We miss Dom. We miss Denis.
of course we do. missing is an affair of the heart, not of the head. we want what we want.
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It's just too bad Dom got Peeteitis or something similar.
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It is especially cruel because dominatrix Dax is engaging in sado-masochistic message boarding by repeatedly reminding us of these denizens of JYC.
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Look. We miss Dom. We miss Denis. I'm not sure why we do this to ourselves. It rough ridin' hurts.
:bawl:
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I miss Dom's defense obviously.
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Miss Dom's big body and ability to create havoc on D, steals and such. Don't miss his ability to miss layups, ability to finish and overall offensive ineptitude
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I'd rather have Dom this year than Nino wasting a scholarship year on the bench, but the Q@ts are #13 in kenpom's adj. def. eff and #9 in OReb %, so we're already doing well in Dom's areas.