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Title: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: nicname on December 07, 2010, 10:35:19 AM
I think we will look a lot different ie. smoother, better, more aggressive, more sorted out, than we have all season.  I wouldn't be surprised if we are pretty gassed during the Loyola game as I'm sure Frank will use it as a glorified practice, but with nearly two weeks to prepare for our next real games I think we will see a better idea of what this team is really all about.  



Edit: Loyola Chicago is good and now I'm  :ohno:.

Edit 2.0: Not that nervous.  They also lost to Valpo.  :gocho:
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: pissclams on December 07, 2010, 10:36:52 AM
cool story bro
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: kso_FAN on December 07, 2010, 10:37:45 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if we are pretty gassed during the Loyola game as I'm sure Frank will use it as a glorified practice, but with nearly two weeks to prepare for our next real games I think we will see a better idea of what this team is really all about.  

Doubt he uses it as a glorified practice.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=303352350
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: nicname on December 07, 2010, 10:38:44 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if we are pretty gassed during the Loyola game as I'm sure Frank will use it as a glorified practice, but with nearly two weeks to prepare for our next real games I think we will see a better idea of what this team is really all about.  

Doubt he uses it as a glorified practice.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=303352350
:surprised:
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: nicname on December 07, 2010, 10:39:06 AM
cool story bro

Thanks, I thought you would like it.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: steve dave on December 07, 2010, 10:42:52 AM
Loy-Chi only plays 7 d00ds.  I hope we are able to JYC the eff out of the game.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: kso_FAN on December 07, 2010, 10:44:29 AM
Loy-Chi only plays 7 d00ds.  I hope we are able to JYC the eff out of the game.

And at a pace that Doc would love (Sadler, not Spradler).

Plus their biggest weakness is giving up Oboards.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: nicname on December 07, 2010, 10:51:00 AM
Weird that we are playing there.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: kso_FAN on December 07, 2010, 10:51:52 AM
Weird that we are playing there.

For Jake I believe.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: steve dave on December 07, 2010, 10:55:27 AM
Weird that we are playing there.

Jake's senior tour.  Tons of teams do this.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: kso_FAN on December 07, 2010, 11:16:10 AM
BTW, this is a great time for a "what do we hope for in the next 3" post. 

I'd say 3-0 would be exceptional, 2-1 I'd take, and anything less would be pretty bad.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: SleepFighter on December 07, 2010, 11:18:39 AM
They're not bad at forcing turnovers.  :ohno:
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: steve dave on December 07, 2010, 11:24:53 AM
BTW, this is a great time for a "what do we hope for in the next 3" post. 

I'd say 3-0 would be exceptional, 2-1 I'd take, and anything less would be pretty bad.

iirc last season at this time when we did this we went 3-0
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: steve dave on December 07, 2010, 11:25:21 AM
also, this roady at loy-chi could be RPI gold
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: nicname on December 07, 2010, 11:30:35 AM
Really want 3-0. 

This could be a proving ground for our team.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: KITNfury on December 07, 2010, 11:33:10 AM
Really, really want 3-0, but I think that's unrealistic. Good ole eyeball test says we're not good enough for that.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: kso_FAN on December 07, 2010, 11:34:13 AM
I'm hoping Wazzu-LoyChic-FL-UNLVis this year's Wazzu-X-UNLV-Bama.  Yeah, Alcorn was thrown in this year, but still.

But 3-1 wouldn't be TEOTW.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: Pete on December 07, 2010, 11:38:17 AM
I'm hoping Wazzu-LoyChic-FL-UNLVis this year's Wazzu-X-UNLV-Bama.  Yeah, Alcorn was thrown in this year, but still.

But 3-1 wouldn't be TEOTW.

Agreed.  Staring the conference season inside the top 15 would be nice.

Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: steve dave on December 07, 2010, 11:39:43 AM
3-0  :comehere:
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 07, 2010, 11:43:35 AM
I'm hoping Wazzu-LoyChic-FL-UNLVis this year's Wazzu-X-UNLV-Bama.  Yeah, Alcorn was thrown in this year, but still.

But 3-1 wouldn't be TEOTW.

Where do you see the most likely loss?  For me its UNLV, but when we JYC games up and hit those 3s (see - Gonzaga) we're a damn good team.  I say 3-0.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: kso_FAN on December 07, 2010, 11:57:09 AM
I'm hoping Wazzu-LoyChic-FL-UNLVis this year's Wazzu-X-UNLV-Bama.  Yeah, Alcorn was thrown in this year, but still.

But 3-1 wouldn't be TEOTW.

Where do you see the most likely loss?  For me its UNLV, but when we JYC games up and hit those 3s (see - Gonzaga) we're a damn good team.  I say 3-0.

UNLV is most likely, but FLA has enough talent to beat us as well. I think we'll handle Loy, but you never know about going to one of these Horizon league places.  We did beat a decent Clev St team in Frank's second year at their place pretty comfortably.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 07, 2010, 11:59:40 AM
I think Loyola is the most likely loss of that bunch. Florida is also sort of scary.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 07, 2010, 12:01:23 PM
I'm hoping Wazzu-LoyChic-FL-UNLVis this year's Wazzu-X-UNLV-Bama.  Yeah, Alcorn was thrown in this year, but still.

But 3-1 wouldn't be TEOTW.

Where do you see the most likely loss?  For me its UNLV, but when we JYC games up and hit those 3s (see - Gonzaga) we're a damn good team.  I say 3-0.

UNLV is most likely, but FLA has enough talent to beat us as well. I think we'll handle Loy, but you never know about going to one of these Horizon league places.  We did beat a decent Clev St team in Frank's second year at their place pretty comfortably.

yeah sometimes gyms with 5,500 are weirdly intimidating.  Like when hugs went to North Dakota St.  They get so jacked.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: kso_FAN on December 07, 2010, 12:11:10 PM
yeah sometimes gyms with 5,500 are weirdly intimidating.  Like when hugs went to North Dakota St.  They get so jacked.

Yeah, last time they had a Top 10, high major school in their building was Michigan State the year after their title in 2000.  They lost 103-71.

Looks like the game is almost a sell-out: http://loyolaramblers.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/120610aaa.html
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: catzacker on December 07, 2010, 12:15:10 PM
it should be 3-0. if it's not then we're all set for 10-6/11-5.  which is garbage, imo.  might as well watch ksu football 2010 highlights.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: bradleigh on December 07, 2010, 12:16:20 PM
3-0  :comehere:

Agree.  In hindsight the Cats made us all look pretty stupid for saying 2-2, 3-1 or whatever last year.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: kso_FAN on December 07, 2010, 12:28:37 PM
it should be 3-0. if it's not then we're all set for 10-6/11-5.  which is garbage, imo.  might as well watch ksu football 2010 highlights.

Wouldn't you be better off just becoming a Duke fan or something?  Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 07, 2010, 12:31:21 PM
it should be 3-0. if it's not then we're all set for 10-6/11-5.  which is garbage, imo.  might as well watch ksu football 2010 highlights.

Wouldn't you be better off just becoming a Duke fan or something?  Just sayin'.

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: kso_FAN on December 07, 2010, 12:32:42 PM
it should be 3-0. if it's not then we're all set for 10-6/11-5.  which is garbage, imo.  might as well watch ksu football 2010 highlights.

Wouldn't you be better off just becoming a Duke fan or something?  Just sayin'.

 :horrorsurprise:

Should've used italics I suppose.  Mostly joking.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: doom on December 07, 2010, 12:41:56 PM
3-0  :comehere:

Agree.  In hindsight the Cats made us all look pretty stupid for saying 2-2, 3-1 or whatever last year.

I felt awesome being wrong. 
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: catzacker on December 07, 2010, 12:46:30 PM
it should be 3-0. if it's not then we're all set for 10-6/11-5.  which is garbage, imo.  might as well watch ksu football 2010 highlights.

Wouldn't you be better off just becoming a Duke fan or something?  Just sayin'.

 :horrorsurprise:

Should've used italics I suppose.  Mostly joking.

 :ohno:
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: kso_FAN on December 07, 2010, 12:47:35 PM
it should be 3-0. if it's not then we're all set for 10-6/11-5.  which is garbage, imo.  might as well watch ksu football 2010 highlights.

Wouldn't you be better off just becoming a Duke fan or something?  Just sayin'.

 :horrorsurprise:

Should've used italics I suppose.  Mostly joking.

 :ohno:

 :peek:
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: catzacker on December 07, 2010, 12:52:26 PM
Ken seems to think we'll go 1-2. 
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: mcmwcat on December 07, 2010, 12:53:07 PM
Weird that we are playing there.

Jake's senior tour.  Tons of teams do this.

bbiq ed continues for this fanbase
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: pissclams on December 07, 2010, 01:12:12 PM
Weird that we are playing there.

Jake's senior tour.  Tons of teams do this.

bbiq ed continues for this fanbase

what's weird to me is that we don't have a home/away with all of the south teams this year!
beebe must have screwed up the scheduling or something but i'm surprised that a assaley didn't catch their snafu!
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on December 07, 2010, 01:17:38 PM
Not to overlook the Ramblers from the Northside(it'll probably end up being too close for comfort, but I think we'll pull out the W in an ADVERSE situation) but what is it about Floridians that we recruit who go to UF and end up failing to live up to expectations?

Note: Boynton is still a solid player, just not the scorer and potential AA he was projected to be out of HS. Shipman and Kadji on the other hand  :flush:

http://brockway.blogs.gatorsports.com/10882/american-talking-points-boynton-firing-blanks/?pa=1&tc=pg
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: mcmwcat on December 07, 2010, 01:18:11 PM
Weird that we are playing there.

Jake's senior tour.  Tons of teams do this.

bbiq ed continues for this fanbase

what's weird to me is that we don't have a home/away with all of the south teams this year!
beebe must have screwed up the scheduling or something but i'm surprised that a assaley didn't catch their snafu!

this will crush our BCS ranking  :chainsaw:
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: pissclams on December 07, 2010, 01:19:14 PM
figures, hopefully our kenpom rating will help pull us back up though
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: kso_FAN on December 07, 2010, 01:21:24 PM
Not to overlook the Ramblers from the Northside(it'll probably end up being too close for comfort, but I think we'll pull out the W in an ADVERSE situation) but what is it about Floridians that we recruit who go to UF and end up failing to live up to expectations?

Note: Boynton is still a solid player, just not the scorer and potential AA he was projected to be out of HS. Shipman and Kadji on the other hand  :flush:

http://brockway.blogs.gatorsports.com/10882/american-talking-points-boynton-firing-blanks/?pa=1&tc=pg

It appears Kenny Boyton is enjoying the offensive freedom that Dom wished he had while at K-State.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: mcmwcat on December 07, 2010, 01:23:38 PM
splitting w/ UF & UNLV would not be the end of the world.  losing to Loyola would.

winning all 3 would mean we are sitting at 14-1 in the top 5 starting conference play at Oklahoma St.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: mcmwcat on December 07, 2010, 01:25:10 PM
figures, hopefully our kenpom rating will help pull us back up though

doubtful. kenpom is not liking the cats and i pretty sure they are a huge part of the BCS formula  :ohno:
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: Sugar Dick on December 07, 2010, 01:30:20 PM
Ken seems to think we'll go 1-2. 

What percentage of the time?  :jerk:
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: AzCat on December 07, 2010, 01:40:33 PM
Ken seems to think we'll go 1-2. 

Sadly, I find that I agree with him.  LOL @ the 3-0 tards.   :users:
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: AbeFroman on December 07, 2010, 01:42:32 PM
We'll go 3-0, although I do kinda worry about the road games just cause they are road games but lets be honest:

Loyola - ok team, but Horizon also-rans, lost to Butler by 2, but Butler 2010-11 =/= 2009-10
Florida - Outside of Kentucky the SEC is garbage
UNLV - best team of the 3 but I can see them laying an egg in Kansas City.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: sys on December 07, 2010, 01:52:06 PM
i'm surprised that a assaley didn't catch their snafu!

assaley's been too busy buying the best suits on the staff and walking around looking too good for this pos town to worry about the schedule.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: kso_FAN on December 10, 2010, 12:41:53 PM
Quote from:  :ck:
"I don't think he should put any pressure on himself. No disrespect to Loyola but it's not like we're playing the Chicago Bulls or anything like that."
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: steve dave on December 10, 2010, 12:49:56 PM
Quote from:  :ck:
"I don't think he should put any pressure on himself. No disrespect to Loyola but it's not like we're playing the Chicago Bulls or anything like that."

Oh crap, we're going to get stomped  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: sys on December 10, 2010, 01:04:18 PM
Ken seems to think we'll go 1-2. 

2-1.  better chance of 1-2 than 3-0, but pretty solidly 2-1.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: CNS on December 10, 2010, 01:07:53 PM
Quote from:  :ck:
"I don't think he should put any pressure on himself. No disrespect to Loyola but it's not like we're playing the Chicago Bulls or anything like that."

Curt!

It's like he wants me to love him more.

I can't Curt. I can't.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: catzacker on December 10, 2010, 01:46:47 PM
Quote from:  :ck:
"I don't think he should put any pressure on himself. No disrespect to Loyola but it's not like we're playing the Chicago Bulls or anything like that."

jake (and the rest of our guards) will probably get embarassed by their guards.   their guards don't really turn it over at all.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: sys on December 10, 2010, 01:49:40 PM
jake (and the rest of our guards) will probably get embarassed by their guards.   their guards don't really turn it over at all.

this catzacker feels right.  the "i expect kstate to go 15-1" 'zacker never felt real.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 10, 2010, 01:50:59 PM
jfc curt
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: catzacker on December 10, 2010, 03:08:17 PM
jake (and the rest of our guards) will probably get embarassed by their guards.   their guards don't really turn it over at all.

this catzacker feels right.  the "i expect kstate to go 15-1" 'zacker never felt real.

I did, prior to the season, think this team would be special.  but now I'd rather watch ksu 2010 football game film than the garbage frank is putting out there night after night.  it's incredibly boring and nearly unwatchable.  going 3-0 over the next 2 weeks would do wonders for me (and ken).  
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: pike on December 10, 2010, 09:26:04 PM
No reason we should lose any 3 of these. Anything under 3-0 would be meltdown city. Especially UNLV in the OOD-East. No way we lose that
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: slimz on December 11, 2010, 02:26:01 AM
Ken seems to think we'll go 1-2. 

2-1.  better chance of 1-2 than 3-0, but pretty solidly 2-1.

This.  Was ready to type it, but sys got there first.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: CopperBowl on December 11, 2010, 10:06:31 AM
Who's gonna be at the Loyola game?


This guy!
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: Andy on December 11, 2010, 10:40:36 AM
i guess this goes here...

starting jr. forward for loyola-chi jordan hicks broke his foot this week.  likely out for the year.  avg about 12 pts and 5 boards.  has highest "ortg" on kenpom for them fwiw.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: AbeFroman on December 11, 2010, 11:57:54 AM
UNLV 38
Louisville 35
Halftime
 :ohno: :runaway:
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: sys on December 11, 2010, 02:14:16 PM
i guess this goes here...

starting jr. forward for loyola-chi jordan hicks broke his foot this week.  likely out for the year.  avg about 12 pts and 5 boards.  has highest "ortg" on kenpom for them fwiw.

jfc, kstate gets mumped at every turn.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: kso_FAN on December 11, 2010, 02:52:34 PM
i guess this goes here...

starting jr. forward for loyola-chi jordan hicks broke his foot this week.  likely out for the year.  avg about 12 pts and 5 boards.  has highest "ortg" on kenpom for them fwiw.

jfc, kstate gets effed at every turn.

Should make it easier to match/surpass kenpom #s for this game?

And Andy, no need to put "" around kenpom info.  The posters that you need to get it, get it.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: sys on December 11, 2010, 02:57:20 PM
Should make it easier to match/surpass kenpom #s for this game?

they're bound to do it eventually.  only a 6 point margin and 68 possessions predicted today, it'd be nice to exceed both numbers.
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: CopperBowl on December 11, 2010, 03:00:22 PM
feels like a home game in here
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: kso_FAN on December 11, 2010, 03:00:35 PM
68 possessions predicted today

Great Boulder/Lincoln/Ames* prep.

*Will be interesting to see if the Mayor maintains current pace in Big 12 play...
Title: Re: Two weeks till Florida, UNLV with a scrimmage with Loyola Chi. thrown in....
Post by: Andy on December 11, 2010, 03:01:18 PM
i guess this goes here...

starting jr. forward for loyola-chi jordan hicks broke his foot this week.  likely out for the year.  avg about 12 pts and 5 boards.  has highest "ortg" on kenpom for them fwiw.

jfc, kstate gets effed at every turn.

Should make it easier to match/surpass kenpom #s for this game?

And Andy, no need to put "" around kenpom info.  The posters that you need to get it, get it.

 :cheers: