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Title: 23 turnovers
Post by: EMAWzified on December 04, 2010, 12:22:40 AM
Against a team that couldn't put pressure on an open wound. Jeebuz Frank.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: hemmy on December 04, 2010, 12:23:47 AM
Very frustrating.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 04, 2010, 12:24:10 AM
I don't wanna know how we will react against MU.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: kso_FAN on December 04, 2010, 12:25:16 AM
Can't wait to see the TO%. Will be phenominal.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: sys on December 04, 2010, 12:26:28 AM
radio Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) just said spradling only had one.  which is complete bullshit.  so assuming everyone else's stats are similarly understated, the real number of turnovers was 92 or  115.  which is a lot.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: EMAWzified on December 04, 2010, 12:26:37 AM
Wonder if Jake(5 TOs on dumbaaz mistakes) will wake up in time to board the plane back to Manhattan.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: kso_FAN on December 04, 2010, 12:27:20 AM
Wonder if Jake(5 TOs on dumbaaz mistakes) will wake up in time to board the plane back to Manhattan.

We don't win the game without Jake.  Really.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: swish1 on December 04, 2010, 12:28:21 AM
Wonder if Jake(5 TOs on dumbaaz mistakes) will wake up in time to board the plane back to Manhattan.

We don't win the game without Jake.  Really.

agreed, but he still played like crap.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: PowercatPat on December 04, 2010, 12:29:37 AM
My favorite was probably the one where Samuels just passed the ball directly to the WSU player defending Kelly in the post.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: swish1 on December 04, 2010, 12:30:37 AM
My favorite was probably the one where Samuels just passed the ball directly to the WSU player defending Kelly in the post.

was that the one where they had 4 players collapsing on kelly before jamsam even threw it?
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 04, 2010, 12:30:52 AM
jake is having a senior year much like sherron collins. only he doesn't have the excuse of being a fat ass.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: sys on December 04, 2010, 12:31:24 AM
My favorite was probably the one where Samuels just passed the ball directly to the WSU player defending Kelly in the post.

the one where samuels got the rebound, traveled, then through it to the wsu guy standing in front of kstate's pg was more evocative.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: Paul Moscow on December 04, 2010, 12:31:58 AM
My favorite was probably the one where Samuels just passed the ball directly to the WSU player defending Kelly in the post.

was that the one where they had 4 players collapsing on kelly before jamsam even threw it?

That one was unbelievable.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: kso_FAN on December 04, 2010, 12:32:05 AM
jake is having a senior year much like sherron collins. only he doesn't have the excuse of being a fat ass.

Meh, he  misses Denis.

Plan on seeing more and more of Sprads at the Pombo and Jake at the Sombo.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: EMAWzified on December 04, 2010, 12:32:52 AM
Don't understand the one-handed bounce passes or the bigs constant lazy short outlets after clearing defensive rebounds.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: swish1 on December 04, 2010, 12:34:11 AM
Don't understand the one-handed bounce passes or the bigs constant lazy short outlets after clearing defensive rebounds.

the fact that the bounce passes are one handed doesnt bother me its the fact that we telegraph the hell out of them.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: mcmwcat on December 04, 2010, 01:20:57 AM
Don't understand the one-handed bounce passes

TWO HANDS!

Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: mcmwcat on December 04, 2010, 01:22:26 AM
Wonder if Jake(5 TOs on dumbaaz mistakes) will wake up in time to board the plane back to Manhattan.

We don't win the game without Jake.  Really.

watching video in the middle of the night paid off.  invaluable defense by Pullen tonight.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 04, 2010, 01:23:31 AM
Wonder if Jake(5 TOs on dumbaaz mistakes) will wake up in time to board the plane back to Manhattan.

We don't win the game without Jake.  Really.

watching video in the middle of the night paid off.  invaluable defense by Pullen tonight.

the strip on Klay right when he was bout to pull up and shoot was amazing. I :emawkid:
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: slimz on December 04, 2010, 01:42:44 AM
jake is having a senior year much like sherron collins. only he doesn't have the excuse of being a fat ass.

Meh, he  misses Denis.

Plan on seeing more and more of Sprads at the Pombo and Jake at the Sombo.

Yep.  Sprads may still be overmatched against the Dukes of the world, but we've only got 2 more games coming up of that caliber in the regular season.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: MakeItRain on December 04, 2010, 01:50:37 AM
jake is having a senior year much like sherron collins. only he doesn't have the excuse of being a fat ass.

Meh, he  misses Denis.

Plan on seeing more and more of Sprads at the Pombo and Jake at the Sombo.

Yep.  Sprads may still be overmatched against the Dukes of the world, but we've only got 2 more games coming up of that caliber in the regular season.

I've been pretty vocal about using 'Tay instead of Will.  I think Will is much more steady, but I really don't think much of him as someone who can bring something extra to the offense, just not screw it up.  'Tay is more dynamic.  Irving has the potential to give you more, but he also has the potential to completely implode with 3 TO's and 2 missed shots in 3 minutes.  I guess what I'm saying is that Frank is fine what he is doing with these two right now and that's platooning them and going with who is better at the time.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: nicname on December 04, 2010, 03:25:53 AM
I don't wanna know how we will react against MU.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: SuperG on December 04, 2010, 04:35:11 AM
Don't understand the one-handed bounce passes or the bigs constant lazy short outlets after clearing defensive rebounds.

I think LAZY is the key word here.

WE. LOOK. LAZY.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: michigancat on December 04, 2010, 05:05:29 AM
Got the dub.

:gocho:
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 04, 2010, 07:01:05 AM
Dumbest Team in America.

Many of the turnovers were just laugh out loud ridiculous.


Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: KSUTOMMY on December 04, 2010, 07:18:24 AM
Glad to get the win in a PAC 10 road game... JHR and his 30+- FT % scares the crap out of me, eventually were gonna need some size at the end of the game. For that matter, WTF is up with the FTs overall this year? (Sprads not included)
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: KITNfury on December 04, 2010, 08:01:14 AM
Glad to get the win in a PAC 10 road game... JHR and his 30+- FT % scares the crap out of me, eventually were gonna need some size at the end of the game. For that matter, WTF is up with the FTs overall this year? (Sprads not included)
Have we been shooting poorly?
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: I_have_purplewood on December 04, 2010, 08:47:08 AM
My favorite was probably the one where Samuels just passed the ball directly to the WSU player defending Kelly in the post.

the one where samuels got the rebound, traveled, then through it to the wsu guy standing in front of kstate's pg was more evocative.

Pretty sure Samuels might have gotten twisted before the game.   :dunno: (ftp://:dunno:)
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: PowercatPat on December 04, 2010, 09:05:53 AM
My favorite was probably the one where Samuels just passed the ball directly to the WSU player defending Kelly in the post.

was that the one where they had 4 players collapsing on kelly before jamsam even threw it?

That one was unbelievable.

Ya that's the one I was talking about. I couldn't help but laugh my ass off after watching that.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: EMAWzified on December 04, 2010, 10:32:11 AM
I watched the replay early this morning. With out the frustrating anger, it was hilarious. Even when post players managed to hang onto the ball, they generally managed to muff it, completely effing up any chance to keep the offense flowing. We kind of suck. And when they stop rebounding and defending, they flat-out suck.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: kso_FAN on December 04, 2010, 11:19:11 AM
30% TO rate. Impressive.

This will be one of or worst TO games, if not the worst, of the season.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: mocat on December 04, 2010, 11:26:56 AM
This was by far the most JYC ish game of the season. Just made me all:blush:
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: catzacker on December 04, 2010, 11:41:17 AM
30% TO rate. Impressive.

This will be one of or worst TO games, if not the worst, of the season.

one of?  yes.  we'll also see this @MU and @KU.  I'd probably guess against UNLV we'll get up there as well. 

We averaged about 20% last year and were only above 25% on 4 occassions (@Bama, @MU, @BU and CU).  We've already gone over 25% in four games this year. 
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: kso_FAN on December 04, 2010, 12:10:13 PM
30% TO rate. Impressive.

This will be one of or worst TO games, if not the worst, of the season.

one of?  yes.  we'll also see this @MU and @KU.  I'd probably guess against UNLV we'll get up there as well. 

We averaged about 20% last year and were only above 25% on 4 occassions (@Bama, @MU, @BU and CU).  We've already gone over 25% in four games this year. 


We'll be higher than last year and have a bunch in the mid-20s. But 30 or over is hard to do, this was only the 4th or 5th since Frank has been here, and we've had plenty of bad to teams.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 04, 2010, 12:51:57 PM
My favorite was probably the one where Samuels just passed the ball directly to the WSU player defending Kelly in the post.

the one where samuels got the rebound, traveled, then through it to the wsu guy standing in front of kstate's pg was more evocative.

total microcosim
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: sys on December 04, 2010, 02:05:27 PM
30% TO rate. Impressive.

This will be one of or worst TO games, if not the worst, of the season.

remember that time against presby when kstate had a single digit turnover rate?  sigh.


i also hope our ftrates for and against aren't what they are.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: kso_FAN on December 04, 2010, 02:07:37 PM
30% TO rate. Impressive.

This will be one of or worst TO games, if not the worst, of the season.

remember that time against presby when kstate had a single digit turnover rate?  sigh.


i also hope our ftrates for and against aren't what they are.

Yep, biggest concerns are ft rate and to rate. By far.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on December 05, 2010, 05:19:15 PM
jake is having a senior year much like sherron collins. only he doesn't have the excuse of being a fat ass.


FWIW, pretty sure Sherron Collins was downing approx 30 chicken wings in record time during the Cavs/Bucks game I was at a few weeks back. Good to see him continue to work on his rotund shape, surely will help him back down guards once he is demoted to the Lobos Grises de la Uad Durango of the Mexican League.
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 05, 2010, 06:08:46 PM
jake is having a senior year much like sherron collins. only he doesn't have the excuse of being a fat ass.


FWIW, pretty sure Sherron Collins was downing approx 30 chicken wings in record time during the Cavs/Bucks game I was at a few weeks back. Good to see him continue to work on his rotund shape, surely will help him back down guards once he is demoted to the Lobos Grises de la Uad Durango of the Mexican League.

Better than raping a woman I guess.   :ck:
Title: Re: 23 turnovers
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on December 06, 2010, 10:07:54 PM
jake is having a senior year much like sherron collins. only he doesn't have the excuse of being a fat ass.


FWIW, pretty sure Sherron Collins was downing approx 30 chicken wings in record time during the Cavs/Bucks game I was at a few weeks back. Good to see him continue to work on his rotund shape, surely will help him back down guards once he is demoted to the Lobos Grises de la Uad Durango of the Mexican League.

Better than raping a woman I guess.   :ck:

True, this would be upward mobility for Sherron. Sad how much better of a baller Sherron could have become if not for the late night fourth meals at Taco Bell and the violence against women. Rumors are that Sherron likes the Mexican League because his dollar will buy him even more gorditas and there are no rape shield laws.