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Title: Conference Voices
Post by: Doberman_CATS!!! on December 01, 2010, 01:58:54 PM
http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog?name=conference_voices&id=5870667


Video helps the basketball star
December, 1, 2010Dec 112:32PM ETEmailPrintCommentsBy Jacob Pullen, Kansas State
AP Photo/Sue Ogrocki
Frank Martin has taught Jacob Pullen the importance of many things, including film study.

This season, Insider will feature the writing of six current NCAA basketball players, contributing their thoughts on issues facing their conferences. Kansas State guard Jacob Pullen continues the series with an explanation of how his team uses film study to gain an edge.



I'm not sure that people know how much film studying we do in basketball, they think of it more as a football thing. It's huge in basketball but I think for our team in particular. We watch tape of ourselves -- our sets, what we're doing wrong, what's working, how we're being defended -- pretty much every day before or after practice. That might run anywhere from 30 minutes to a couple of hours depending on our last game and when our next one is. Then we also get personnel DVDs, too. Assistants will give us footage that's already cut to show you who you're going to be defending in the next game and what their tendencies are. Sometimes that's a specific player and sometimes it's the team, just to show you what they like to do against certain offenses or how they might react to what we want to do or what's been an effective way to guard them.



Let's say today is Tuesday and we're going to play on a Friday. We might start practice by watching film just of us, practice, come back and watch an hour of our next opponent's sets. The next day, the coaches might start off with tape of their plays -- what they run on specific possessions and inbounds. The next time we might watch ourselves and then after practice get into tape on individual personnel. There are times when even after I've gone home, Frank [Martin] will call me at midnight to tell me he just saw something on the tape that he thinks I should look at. He knows that I'll want to see it; that's just the relationship that we have. Then on the day of the game, there will usually be film of our opponent playing on TV while we eat our team meal. There's really a lot that we're trying to know about our next game and the coaches do a good job of pointing stuff out.

Take this week, for example. We beat Emporia State by like 20. Frank had us watching one possession over and over for 30 minutes. And when you look back at that possession, everything we did was wrong -- the forwards weren't moving up when they were supposed to, guards didn't set the screens where they should have, we weren't coming to the ball, no one boxed out for the rebound. Nothing went right. Frank kept showing it and we kept finding things we didn't do right.

The DVDs that they give me, I usually upload on my Macbook and my iPad. I always travel with both of them on the road and just watch film on the plane or on the bus or wherever. Gotta have both just in case the battery is running low on one or the other. I've been tempted to watch in class. We do watch a lot of film and I can't say for sure whether everyone on the team does or doesn't get tired of it. But I know I don't. It's so important because it really points out whether you're doing the little things it takes to win games. I didn't really learn the value of watching tape until after my freshman year. It was right after Mike Beasley and Bill Walker declared for the draft and our coaches called me into the office and started playing tape of our last tournament game against Wisconsin. They had it clipped up to show me playing defense; I was bouncing up and down, not moving my feet. There were a couple of times when my man got past me and I was just watching. I think Trevon Hughes had like 30 points on me that game [editor's note: it was 25].

That's when I realized how much you can learn from watching film. And Frank really believes in it too because the thing is, it doesn't lie. I know Texas does this too but we watch footage of our last practice before we go out on the floor for the next one. Sometimes the coaches will tell us that we're not doing something and you can swear that you were. Just pull up the tape and that settles it. If you're wrong the coaches are going to call you out in film session and you're going to have to run sprints. That hasn't happened to me in a while. There was one time during a game two years ago when we had Buchi Awaji on the team. Frank told him he wasn't cutting to the ball, wasn't making a line to the ball. Buchi argued with him during the game that he was. They went back and forth about it. When we got in the locker room at halftime, the staff had the first half already clipped. Frank bet him, he said if the tape showed that Buchi did, he would play in the second half. If it didn't, Buchi was going to be on the bench. Buchi didn't get in the rest of the game and he had to run sprints the next day in practice.

Our team definitely watches a lot of film and talking to Marcus Morris at Kansas I know they do too, but every team is different. I had a friend that went to Florida A&M and he said the only time they watched film was on the bus to their games. I got pretty close to Marcus this summer when we were traveling to different camps. It's funny because once the season starts you don't really get time to talk or stay in touch because you're just focused on your own season. There were times this summer, though, that we'd be working out and Frank would text me or call and Marcus was surprised that I call my coach by his first name or that we have that kind of relationship. Same thing with my cousin Demetri McCamey and oscar Weber, his coach at Illinois. Most times they're surprised by how much me and Frank talk or when they see him joking with us or hanging out. I know a lot of other coaches want that "call me coach or sir" or whatever relationship, but Frank has always told us that he's gonna call us by our first name and we can do the same. I think it's because he didn't come up through the system the same way as other guys. He worked with a Hall of Famer in Bob Huggins but mostly he came up coaching high school and AAU and he had it tough. We respect that a lot and it's why he has such a close relationship with our team.



Jacob Pullen is a senior guard at Kansas State. He contributes every month to the Conference Voices blog
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: kso_FAN on December 01, 2010, 02:04:03 PM
Great, great stuff. 
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: steve dave on December 01, 2010, 02:10:28 PM
yeah, really enjoyed reading that
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: kso_FAN on December 01, 2010, 02:12:28 PM
The Awaji story is great. 
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 01, 2010, 02:13:36 PM
The Awaji story is great. 

kinda makes sense now.
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: sys on December 01, 2010, 02:16:36 PM
man, that's fantastic.  too bad pullen doesn't post here, he'd be ultraelite at it.
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: EllToPay on December 01, 2010, 02:19:36 PM
Wow, that was great.
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: OK_Cat on December 01, 2010, 02:29:18 PM
lol @ people who think/thought that Frank is a horrible coach. 
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: jtksu on December 01, 2010, 02:29:47 PM
Guys, we're never going to be an elite program with this kind of BS going on.  Calling a coach by his first name?  Coaches "hanging out" with his players?  Well, we hired a high school coach, guess I should have expected this.
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: kougar24 on December 01, 2010, 02:34:01 PM
Immensely enjoyable, thanks for sharing.

Frank making bets at halftime: :love:!
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 01, 2010, 02:44:42 PM
I wonder if CK sees himself  :ck: and ever  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: jtksu on December 01, 2010, 02:50:36 PM
You know every team he sees himself :ck: on film that he just :ck: 's to himself.
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: Pett on December 01, 2010, 02:51:51 PM
yeah, really enjoyed reading that

Wow. It was like K-State Confidential all over again. :emawkid:
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: bigdavefreemaw on December 01, 2010, 02:53:09 PM
You know every team he sees himself :ck: on film that he just :ck: 's to himself.

You are absolutely terrible. Absolutely terrible
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: goldenticket on December 01, 2010, 03:28:40 PM
awesome, thanks for posting
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: parrot14 on December 01, 2010, 08:26:08 PM
Great post.  Thanks
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: Benja on December 01, 2010, 08:40:57 PM
So jealous that Jake has an I-Pad. Thanks for posting, amazing stuff.
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: Stevesie60 on December 01, 2010, 08:41:18 PM
yeah, really enjoyed reading that

Wow. It was like K-State Confidential all over again. :emawkid:

Yeah, would love every player to write something like this. Great all around.
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: kso_FAN on December 01, 2010, 08:42:15 PM
So jealous that Jake has an I-Pad. Thanks for posting, amazing stuff.

They are nice, not going to lie.
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: Benja on December 01, 2010, 08:45:57 PM
So jealous that Jake has an I-Pad. Thanks for posting, amazing stuff.

They are nice, not going to lie.

I feel like they're extremely unnecessary, but I still want one so bad.
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: raquetcat on December 01, 2010, 08:46:13 PM
Please continue to post the rest of these, the only thing that could make it better would be if it was a video so we could see Jake's adorable face  :love:
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: jtksu on December 01, 2010, 09:01:11 PM
Bet an ipad would make for some glorious bbs'ing.
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: jdagg2003 on December 01, 2010, 09:05:40 PM
Bet an ipad would make for some glorious bbs'ing.
You'd be surprised.
Actually they kinda suck, mine just sits in it's box all day.
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: pissclams on December 01, 2010, 09:17:14 PM
So jealous that Jake has an I-Pad. Thanks for posting, amazing stuff.

martavious doesn't even have a television  :frown:
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: jdagg2003 on December 01, 2010, 09:18:14 PM
So jealous that Jake has an I-Pad. Thanks for posting, amazing stuff.

martavious doesn't even have a television  :frown:
For reals?
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: pissclams on December 01, 2010, 09:21:22 PM
So jealous that Jake has an I-Pad. Thanks for posting, amazing stuff.

martavious doesn't even have a television  :frown:
For reals?

MI3Tay Martavious Irving
Since i dont got cable....(or a tv) im gona watch the nicki doc on mtv.com
28 Nov Favorite Reply
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: MakeItRain on December 01, 2010, 09:25:26 PM
The Awaji story is great. 

kinda makes sense now.

Wonder how many lines that empty scholarship ran last year?
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 01, 2010, 09:25:59 PM
The Awaji story is great. 

kinda makes sense now.

Wonder how many lines that empty scholarship ran last year?

:D
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: Benja on December 01, 2010, 09:39:29 PM
So jealous that Jake has an I-Pad. Thanks for posting, amazing stuff.

martavious doesn't even have a television  :frown:
For reals?

MI3Tay Martavious Irving
Since i dont got cable....(or a tv) im gona watch the nicki doc on mtv.com
28 Nov Favorite Reply

We should make a deal with 'Tav if he keeps making three's goEMAW.com will buy him a (moderately priced) tv. Keep that on the DL, though.
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: jtksu on December 01, 2010, 09:51:49 PM
crap, with prices on TVs the way they are, I figure 'Tav has only earned a 32" Vizio.  Keep it up bro, a 50" is definitely within your reach by conference.
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: BEFR on December 01, 2010, 10:12:30 PM
So jealous that Jake has an I-Pad. Thanks for posting, amazing stuff.

They are nice, not going to lie.

I feel like they're extremely unnecessary, but I still want one so bad.

i was 100% pc guy forever... snared one... once they straighten out the flash thing, it'll pretty much be the greatest thing ever... i use it for everything (when the wife hasn't stolen it)  :nono:
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: parrot14 on December 01, 2010, 10:33:51 PM
So jealous that Jake has an I-Pad. Thanks for posting, amazing stuff.

martavious doesn't even have a television  :frown:
For reals?

MI3Tay Martavious Irving
Since i dont got cable....(or a tv) im gona watch the nicki doc on mtv.com
28 Nov Favorite Reply

Now we know where he gets his dance moves from.
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: jtksu on December 01, 2010, 10:45:42 PM
Yeah, what's the deal the ipads and flash?  How did they think that wouldn't be an issue?  (Or camaras on the iphone, for that matter.)
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: jdagg2003 on December 02, 2010, 02:03:09 AM
Yeah, what's the deal the ipads and flash?  How did they think that wouldn't be an issue?  (Or camaras on the iphone, for that matter.)
:facepalm:
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: Doberman_CATS!!! on December 02, 2010, 08:26:40 AM
Please continue to post the rest of these, the only thing that could make it better would be if it was a video so we could see Jake's adorable face  :love:

Done. Took Jake awhile to submit his, must have been concentrating on playing basketball or something..
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: BigCat on December 02, 2010, 08:05:55 PM
So jealous that Jake has an I-Pad. Thanks for posting, amazing stuff.

martavious doesn't even have a television  :frown:
For reals?

MI3Tay Martavious Irving
Since i dont got cable....(or a tv) im gona watch the nicki doc on mtv.com
28 Nov Favorite Reply

That makes me :frown: but then again lots of college kids don't have tvs and crap. And I don't feel sorry for any other college kid.
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: jtksu on December 02, 2010, 08:09:33 PM
He should just move in with Pullen.  Pullen has like a gazillion shoes, bet he has a sweet TV.
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: sys on December 02, 2010, 08:31:33 PM
if he wanted a tv, he'd have one, dumbasses.
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: BigCat on December 02, 2010, 08:46:19 PM
if he wanted a tv, he'd have one, dumbasses.

That's not the way he made it sound. Sounds like he doesn't have the means to procure a television or cable services and so he's just going to sit alone by himself with no friends and no food or heat and watch a crappy stream of some crappy show. :frown: :frown:
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: jtksu on December 02, 2010, 08:57:59 PM
Maybe Frank took it away?
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: sys on December 02, 2010, 09:05:24 PM
if he wanted a tv, he'd have one, dumbasses.

That's not the way he made it sound. Sounds like he doesn't have the means to procure a television or cable services and so he's just going to sit alone by himself with no friends and no food or heat and watch a crappy stream of some crappy show. :frown: :frown:

pffft.  he's some sort of bible freak.  does that 'cause he thinks he'll go to heaven or something.
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: hemmy on December 02, 2010, 09:33:30 PM
Now I feel bad I bought a $800 tv and I am still in college.  I would give 'Tay my old TV but pretty sure that is a NCAA violation
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: skycat on December 03, 2010, 02:36:28 AM
if he wanted a tv, he'd have one, dumbasses.

That's not the way he made it sound. Sounds like he doesn't have the means to procure a television or cable services and so he's just going to sit alone by himself with no friends and no food or heat and watch a crappy stream of some crappy show. :frown: :frown:

pffft.  he's some sort of bible freak.  does that 'cause he thinks he'll go to heaven or something.

 :eek: Seriously?  It seems he has Internet, which is a million times worse than TV if you're trying to avoid "un-Christian" stuff.

Anyway, I wouldn't have pegged him as a bible freak. He's too good a dancer.
Title: Re: Conference Voices - Pullen
Post by: jtksu on December 03, 2010, 07:51:33 AM
Pffft.  Sounds like we have a guy who's never seen Footloose on our hands.
Title: Re: Conference Voices
Post by: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 09, 2011, 09:05:22 AM
Big 12 (Quincy Acy, Baylor)


Player of the Year: Undecided
You have to look at what Jordan Hamilton has done to keep Texas close to the top of the rankings all season long; you have to look at the Morris twins at Kansas; and then you've got K-State's Jacob Pullen. Pullen is doing an outstanding job of living up to his words and trying to keep his team out of the NIT. The Morris twins can't share the award. And I'm undecided on what's more valuable: Hamilton playing at a high level all season or what Pullen is doing right now, when his team needs it most.



Coach of the Year: Frank Martin, Kansas State I just like his coaching style. He's had a lot of team problems -- a couple of guys getting suspended or leaving the team -- and he's still got them playing well. I think it takes a strong player to play for him with his coaching style. I remember when we played them last season, and at one point in the game I was right near their bench. One of his players made a mistake and he hit him with that look. I was right in the line of fire and he maybe intimidated me a little bit. He gets his guys to play hard.



Conference tourney winner: Kansas
Something amazing always happens in our tournament. My freshman year we were picked one of the last seeds and we made it to the championship game. Everyone steps up their game to another level. In the conference right now, Kansas is playing pretty well, but in the tournament you never know.



Dark horse: Us and Colorado
We want to make it back to the tournament and we're hearing a lot of negatives ... people saying we're not the same team. Obviously we're not; we have only two returning starters. We want to prove that people are wrong about us. Alec Burks is playing at a high level right now and carrying Colorado. So I'd say us two.



Predicted number of NCAA tournament bids for Big 12: 4
Kansas, Texas, K-State and Missouri. If it's five, that fifth one is totally up in the air
Title: Re: Conference Voices
Post by: doom on March 09, 2011, 09:30:27 AM
Big 12 (Quincy Acy, Baylor)


Player of the Year: Undecided
You have to look at what Jordan Hamilton has done to keep Texas close to the top of the rankings all season long; you have to look at the Morris twins at Kansas; and then you've got K-State's Jacob Pullen. Pullen is doing an outstanding job of living up to his words and trying to keep his team out of the NIT. The Morris twins can't share the award. And I'm undecided on what's more valuable: Hamilton playing at a high level all season or what Pullen is doing right now, when his team needs it most.



Coach of the Year: Frank Martin, Kansas State I just like his coaching style. He's had a lot of team problems -- a couple of guys getting suspended or leaving the team -- and he's still got them playing well. I think it takes a strong player to play for him with his coaching style. I remember when we played them last season, and at one point in the game I was right near their bench. One of his players made a mistake and he hit him with that look. I was right in the line of fire and he maybe intimidated me a little bit. He gets his guys to play hard.



Conference tourney winner: Kansas
Something amazing always happens in our tournament. My freshman year we were picked one of the last seeds and we made it to the championship game. Everyone steps up their game to another level. In the conference right now, Kansas is playing pretty well, but in the tournament you never know.



Dark horse: Us and Colorado
We want to make it back to the tournament and we're hearing a lot of negatives ... people saying we're not the same team. Obviously we're not; we have only two returning starters. We want to prove that people are wrong about us. Alec Burks is playing at a high level right now and carrying Colorado. So I'd say us two.



Predicted number of NCAA tournament bids for Big 12: 4
Kansas, Texas, K-State and Missouri. If it's five, that fifth one is totally up in the air


 :love:
Title: Re: Conference Voices
Post by: TheMadCatter on March 09, 2011, 09:47:46 AM
lol no A&M
Title: Re: Conference Voices
Post by: SleepFighter on March 09, 2011, 11:31:35 AM
 :love: the aTm - Baylor bball rivalry
Title: Re: Conference Voices
Post by: sys on March 09, 2011, 02:12:57 PM
acy is by far my favorite baylor player.  kstate recruit, bouncy, etc.